Episode 494 · Sunday, 10 March 2013

Aid & Comfort

Constitutional treason definitions provide a backdrop for drone policy debates as Bitcoin mania, mutant Iranian rats, and the commercialization of Austin tech culture collide.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 494

About this episode

Senator John McCain and actress Jane Fonda take center stage as the legal definition of treason becomes a focal point for executive power. During a debate on drone policy, McCain invoked the constitutional language of providing aid and comfort to enemies, sparking a broader analysis of how the government might target American citizens. The discussion links these legal loopholes to the ease of killing expressed by media figures like Chris Matthews and Ron Reagan Jr.

President Barack Obama faces scrutiny over middle class economic claims and a new executive order facilitating massive arms sales to Iraq and Australia. Meanwhile, the South by Southwest festival in Austin reveals the commercialization of tech, featuring a hungover Kara Swisher and the marketing hype of Elon Musk. In the courts, the Gilberto Valli cannibal cop trial raises questions about pre-crime, while reports from Tehran describe eleven-pound mutant super rats requiring sniper intervention. The rise of Bitcoin also draws fire, with John C. Dvorak labeling the cryptocurrency the Beanie Babies of currency while Adam Curry posits it may be a psychological trick to build encryption-cracking rainbow tables.

Adam Curry recounts a bizarre birthday morning in an Austin mansion and a heartwarming cash delivery from mailman Armand Guerra. The program features a formal knighting ceremony for Robert Frapples and Joseph Ransom, set to the traditional sounds of Hookers and Blow. John C. Dvorak and Adam Curry conclude with a debate over the hard G in GIF and the collapse of social order in New York City.


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CHAPTER 01 / 39 Discussion

Pronunciation Debate, GIF vs Jiff

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the program with a debate over the correct pronunciation of the GIF image format. While Curry advocates for the "Jiff" pronunciation common in the West, Dvorak argues for the hard "G" sound. The discussion touches on the inconsistencies of English phonetics using examples like "giraffe" and "girl."

gif· pronunciation· linguistics· adam curry· john c dvorak· silicon valley

00:00 Personally, I think Bitcoin is the beanie babies of currency. Dodging the South by Southwest Celebrity Surge in the Travis Heights Hideout where SoCo meets MoFo in the capital of The Drone Star State. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where I am distracted by photos, I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! No that is not a photo John that an animated gif. We pronounce it Jiff out here in the west. You know I've always wondered about that because New Yorkers always said GIF

00:48 And the West Coast I was surprised because in the first dot-com boom we always said GIFs. It was progressive rendering of the GIFs, of the gifs, I'm sorry see now i'm saying it. What is a GIF? But its a G so not a J Oh, oh, oh...G so that would be always as hard Giraffe for example is a giraffe Giranimals yes Girl, its not a jurrel GI okay, let's look at gi so you have a giraffe right but that but when it's a Jew right But it's not girls, but it's not girl. Why is it not journal then hey? That's a beautiful journal over there if its giraffe Why is it not journal and by the way I have a wife who asked me these questions all the time And I feel stupid like an answer English is wacky But is there somewhere a rule that explains that why it's giraffe and one of those English wacky things There's tons of them

CHAPTER 02 / 39 Discussion

Barack Obama, Middle Class Economic Engine Claims

President Barack Obama delivers a radio address focusing on the middle class as the engine of American economic growth. The hosts analyze his claims regarding the 7.7% unemployment rate, contrasting official government data with alternative metrics from ShadowStats.com. They critique the President's "three questions" for economic success and mock his use of the word "decent" to describe a living standard.

barack obama· shadow stats· unemployment rate· middle class· economic growth

01:46 But who where is it? Where's the rule book her what honor Oh, I'm honored Funny you say that should we kick off with our president. Oh You got your present the president should always be at the front of the top of the show So I was he would it was you know how he always starts off with Heil everybody Yeah, Heil Hitler. No, heil everybody. He starts off today kind of with a demure kind of like... Oh, heil everybody! Listen, listen. Hi everybody. Heil everybody. Nahh. He doesn't sound really happy about it

02:23 Well, maybe he's not. Hi everybody! As I've said before my top priority as president is making sure we do everything we can to reignite the true engine of America's economic growth This is news to me What what is the top priority of the President John? I just have to keep asking Defend the Constitution Thank you okay now apparently it's not It's too well what was it again make sure everybody's happy What was it let me just say hi everybody As I've said before, my top priority as president is making sure we do everything we can to reignite the true engine of America's economic growth. What is the true engine of America's economic growth? Oh no! Just getting by... Well that's interesting you say that! A rising thriving middle class yesterday we received some welcome news on that front We learned our businesses added nearly 250 thousand new jobs last month

03:12 The unemployment rate fell to 7.7%. And the shadow stats could not be diverging further from these numbers. You know, I haven't looked at it recently. No! But you've taught me this was your teaching. Yeah, now I always look at it but... yeah. ...I try to look at only every so often so that I can have a big surprise. Well check it out here is reflected in the 2013 first quarter numbers. The red line goes down and that's the official numbers But the blue line, these shadow stats including the U6 and everything that belongs in it is going up. It's diverging even more. Anyway let's get back to the core of America's economic engine. The shadow stat numbers are not... I'm sorry let me stop here. The shadow stat numbers and people should go to ShadowStats.com and look at the real unemployment rate

04:05 are not good. No! No, no... Not at all. But- Put the bullcrap back on. Too high but now lower than it was when I took office Our businesses have created jobs every month for three years straight Nearly 6.4 million new jobs in all our manufacturers are bringing jobs back to America our stock market has rebounded It's bubbling new homes are being built and sold at a faster pace And we need to do everything we can to keep that momentum going all right What can, we do that means asking ourselves three questions every day? Let me have a pen yes get it three questions three questions every day number one how Do we make America a magnet for new jobs hmm what is the end why, do We make america a magnet for new jobs What do you think i'd work could the answer be to that

05:01 Oh, hold on. You're crapping up. Yeah how do we make it a magnet for new jobs? How do you make it a magnet for new jobs? Like inventing something or getting an industry to take off like a rocket? I guess so let's check the second one... How do we equip more of our people with the skills those jobs require? Okay got it that's that's a tough one well we gotta teach people how to flip burgers Obviously. Because here is the true engine of America, number three. And how do we make sure that your hard work leads to a decent living? Ah! Of just getting by. Heil everybody! We just want you to have a decent living. Decent... define decent for me. It means you have clothes on right?

05:48 Well, I think you have food shelter and clothing yes. No, I disagree when you know when you're in the bathroom when someone comes in and says are you decent? That's all that's basically do you have clothes on what is the judges did so your taking the phrase a British phrase it might add mm-hmm Americans would never say that no of course not are you are you decent listen let us see the definition of the word decent for a second decent characterized by conformity to recognize standards of propriety or morality meeting accepted standards morally upright or respectable so the first definition according to Miriam is polite or respectable. So you just have to be polite. That would be closed yeah I'm kind of correct in my assumption here decent yeah I suppose if somebody said you're decent and they say no

06:46 fling open the door and they're standing there naked shaking. That has to be our driving focus, that has to be a driving focus just getting by decent living. Our North Star! And at a time when our businesses are gaining a little more traction the last thing we should do is allow Washington politics... Alright shut up I'm tired of you now There ya go well anyway that's said the president at the top of the show in the morning to John C Dvorak In the morning to you Adam Curry, in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground feet in the air of subs in the water and all that dames and knights out there. Very important also thank our artists who always operate on the value for value model by getting a little bit exposure for their artwork and I think just jollies really if they're chosen Martin JJ... This was a tough call very tough call we were very we were on the fence between several submissions from Tice Browers

CHAPTER 03 / 39 Discussion

South by Southwest, Kara Swisher CNN Interview

Adam Curry reports on the atmosphere at the South by Southwest festival in Austin, Texas. He highlights a CNN interview featuring technology journalist Kara Swisher, noting she appeared hungover while wearing a leather jacket and sunglasses. The hosts discuss the commercialization of the event and the influx of celebrities selling products.

south by southwest· sxsw· kara swisher· cnn· austin· journalism

07:39 for episode 493. But you know, we had a meeting and it was Martin JJ so please do not be discouraged and of course all the art is available to be seen and used at noagendaartgenerator.com And I am coming from the party capital currently. I was watching CNN this morning and saw Kara Swisher of all the, the All Things D. What is she? She's a journalist right? Yeah yeah that's what it is. So she's doing an interview hungover

08:16 In a leather jacket with her Ray-Ban sunglasses on. What? She was on TV with sunglasses on?! Yes! No... Yeah, completely hungover. Completely hammered like yeah, yeah South by man it's where it's happening. Well she was at South By. Yes yes! And giving her report Every this year the celebrities are off the hook and they all literally selling something. Everybody is selling something and It's very interesting to witness this right off South Congress not me on people Dutch people are bumping into me. Yeah Wow, you live here it's awesome. I love Austin. It's fantastic What are you doing? Oh we well we're learning all kinds of things and we're shopping

CHAPTER 04 / 39 Discussion

Adam Curry, South by Southwest Speaking Experience

Adam Curry describes his disappointing experience as a speaker at South by Southwest, where he was scheduled at Dell Hall against a keynote by Elon Musk. He recounts the low attendance of only 20 people and a confrontation with Dame Francine Hardaway, who criticized the show's marketing. Curry expresses frustration with the event organizers for the poor scheduling and lack of compensation beyond festival passes.

sxsw· dell hall· elon musk· francine hardaway· austin· public speaking

09:03 Okay, gotcha. It's just party it is an excuse to throw down and Party I don't think much gets done witness my canard of a session yesterday Did you get any the Kara Swisher clip? No no I was doing important things I didn't get Kara swisher nuts so I had this speech yesterday And I have to say, could not have been more shit. Why? Well let me remind you that the South Byte people had something to fill and now I kind of know what they had to fill

09:43 And they asked me initially if I wanted to interview, they might be Giants but then they might be Giants-Bailed and the guy's like well you know still honor you with two platinum passes which i thought was a pretty good deal. You know that's like at $3,000 value. Oh! Well it's not bad for home game come on for home games. Yeah three thousand dollar pass for an event that you know why can't you just Go roaming around. Why do you need the pass? To get into the things! What things?! All actions after work... Well, that's not entirely true There is a lot of... there seems to be like the future of porn $3,000 pass costs 3 thousand dollars... You're kidding me! 1500 per pass for the platinum pass 1500 but it's for... So it cost $1500? Yes It's all just bunch of douchebags Yeah

10:33 So it's for film, interactive and music. Because you can buy separate passes for just the interactive or just the film. Interactive? What does that mean? You bump into people? Hey! Get out of my way! There was actually a friend of mine from Holland who was here and he went to... I didn't even know it existed South by Southwest EDU educational which started last week And do you know what the topics were? Serious gaming There's an entire industry of game developers making training materials, mainly for governments of course. That are games! Like... Yeah like first-person shooters on how to you know work in the classroom I guess? I don't know it's like but this is a real industry It's huge anyway so

11:23 So I get the passes and like, okay that's cool. And you know what? And I don't mind doing my own speech. You know, I'm still trying to get some actual work doing that on the road to supplement the income. Like okay, that'll be good experience and i'm sure some people will show up well So this is the first year that they have events south of the river, that being Lady Bird Lake at Dell Hall. Now Dell Hall is where the Philharmonic Art Orchestra performs. This like a 2,000-seater... I don't know how big this thing is. It's huge! Yeah, I'd love to go to that. Yeah well... I would love to give a speech there if you fill it up. If there were people there and see the problem is if you wanted to come see my speech you had first had to find a way to get south of the river

12:07 Wasn't it right in with everything else? No, no. This is new It's south of the river so it's not by the convention center its over by Del Hall which is a separate entity Del as in Michael Del he has a hall now in Austin Oh yeah, Michael and Susan Yeah they built a beautiful hall I mean it's beautiful Sure it is Its basically an opera hall So it's fantastic for shows, etc. And of course it was raining as it does at South By so you have to get down past the river go to the hall and that was the only attraction there was me! At that moment but if you did that then you would never make... But your a famous celebrity! You must've packed them in! You would never make it back in time to stand in line to see the keynote by Elon Musk

12:54 Oh, you're up against Elon Musk's keynote. No worse! I'm up against the line to get into Elon Musk's keynote That's how sad it was So you had nobody there? Yeah and i had 20 people Hi boys let's go get a beer that what I said Of which half I knew by name And so Miss Mickey of course, Sir Gene he's in from Dallas Dame Francine Hardaway sat in front and heckled me. Good for her! And heckled ME on your behalf! She's like you guys do shit marketing and your partner really sucks I'm like thanks... Mickey of course is now madly in love with Dame Francine have you ever met her?

13:49 Oh, she's fantastic. I don't get out much. No she is a powerhouse She really is but she'd like I wanna do marketing She's really mad at us Which is kind of cool so actually I benefited tremendously You know and of course it It's great after you do his speech in Del Hall and then jump off the stage and shake everyone's hand individually And it only takes five minutes So the South by people should be ashamed of themselves first of all for putting me in that position. Let me guess, no pay? I got two passes! Oh yeah well that's actually... Well third place is four passes give me a break No that's not true. No one even gets the passes when they speak

CHAPTER 05 / 39 Discussion

Elon Musk, Tesla Marketing and PayPal History

The hosts critique the public image and business tactics of Elon Musk, describing him as a marketing genius who takes credit for the work of others. They discuss the hype surrounding Tesla Motors and Musk's history with PayPal. An anecdote is shared regarding billionaires waiting in line for Tesla demonstrations at a private hangar event with Ray Lane.

elon musk· tesla· paypal· ray lane· marketing· rocketry

14:37 Oh, that's a plus. Okay well at least you made out Yeah so but what sad to me is that people would rather stand in line to go watch an overhyped British douchebag talk about South African A South African? That's right he's South African Talk about his model rocketry hobby and his battery cars then learn how you can actually make a living doing your art Yeah, well they... Elon Musk is a big deal. Have you ever met him? Because I've met him and I miss meeting him a couple of times now. I'll probably meet him one day. We have a saying in Dutch, over het paard getilt which means he's been hoisted up on the horse so high that he fell off on the other side

15:33 He's yeah, he hasn't fallen off yet that I can tell no but he's oh she's like you know his shit don't stink like Oh, I pooped on the ground But it doesn't smell because I am Elon Musk. I take it as there's an a I think it's pretty hard to avoid that when your new done I mean he's really good at finding talent too and design and implement all these ideas of his. And then what's even better is that he manages to put all these people together, and then he takes credit for it all! Yeah, I mean PayPal of course is fantastic. It wasn't him alone there was a lot of Indian guys involved in that literally

16:20 But yeah, I mean it's also those fighting five original partners He did something before that and then he did like really he really showed how to do it right with the with the cars. I thought what's really irksome is that he's successful You know, that's the that hard Schwartz negative by one when you can't even get in one. No, I Flew down with Ray Lane on ray lanes g5 to go to the presentation of Tesla and there were billionaires standing in line to get into the passenger side of the car and have someone else drive you around this little track in, um...in the hangar. And then if you bought one they had a big electronic tote board and it would say oh Ray Lane purchased pre-purchased we know took him a year before they finally got it

CHAPTER 06 / 39 Discussion

Austin Startup Scene, Smart Money vs Silicon Valley

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak debate the viability of Austin, Texas, as a startup hub. Curry argues that Austin lacks the "stupid money" found in San Francisco and is instead dominated by "smart money" from the oil and energy sectors. They conclude that while Austin is a great place to work, true tech startups still belong in the Silicon Valley environment.

austin· startups· silicon valley· venture capital· energy industry

17:11 Yeah, he's a marketing genius for sure. Anyway so there you go! I was the little guy in the big hall It was big enough for my ego that's for sure But I don't this whole side. I've never been it's not me anymore, and I don't belong here This is a commercial and by the way Austin is fantastic. I love Austin but there's no startups here There's nothing like anything super, but don't come here And think that you're gonna be a startup Come here if you want to work hard and make some money at something real everything else go to San Francisco or New York Or whatever this is

17:51 This is not the place for you. Yeah, Austin's great! You can be a startup." No not at all. They've been promoting that I remember giving a speech there it must have been almost 10 years ago and they were promoting that idea back then and all those and there was all these little companies that tried to do it but it's the wrong environment The milieu is incorrect Indeed Startups need to be in start-up city And that's pretty much San Francisco down to Los Gatos Well, the reason is start up anywhere in that area. There's no the money here is smart money The money here is oil and energy and things that you know are industrial And there's no one here like you're gonna what? You got it like people are gonna like do what now? What click on something and then they're member of a community not I don't think so pays you for this No, but and they're not paying you

18:43 That's even better. What, you're gonna sell ads? No no no that's not gonna work! That's exactly why it doesn't work but if you have a great idea and and you can show how you make money oh this is then the floodgates open up. Yeah but that works anywhere True true But there's just so much stupid money in other places Anyway, so we had an interesting conversation on the last episode and this kind of ties into the value for value model as you were giving me some statistics on number of donors and how things were going. And I will freely admit that I got overly emotional

CHAPTER 07 / 39 Discussion

No Agenda, Value for Value Model Adjustments

The hosts reflect on a previous emotional segment regarding declining donations and discuss potential changes to the show's funding model. While many listeners suggested moving to a paid subscription or "freemium" model, Curry and Dvorak decide to stick with the "Value for Value" system. They emphasize the importance of remaining uncompromised by advertisers while acknowledging the need to better remind listeners of the show's production costs.

value for value· subscription model· crowdfunding· podcasting· media strategy

19:32 Particularly in light, you know it could not be the whole value for value speech could not have been worse You know after the last episode like well is this thing falling apart? And I'm here to say it's not but you and I made some fundamental mistakes and and I think I've actually written some down here. Hold on a second one more showers No wait that's a different list. Here we go We forgot to remind people that The will actually forgot to ask people is what we forgot to do. We forget we forgot to remind people what we're doing Why were doing it? How well, it's kind of weird to have to say but that if that we make it look easy But it's not just you know, so we don't just get up on a Thursday morning and a Sunday like oh Let's just do a little show let's do his show Judy and also that were the Judy yeah punch

20:31 And also that we're human, you know. That's a reference to Mickey Rooney. You should have said Mickey would have nailed it Yeah but I don't...have no idea about popular culture. Um yeah we uh.. We are human and we have families to support because when you get on the podcast or people forget they kind of like oh he is that guy over there and he is living up Everything's groovy. You know they we start to get treated a bit like a celebrity with I think it's subconscious But it does happen until you say hold on a second you know, I am a human I'm a human being goddammit now what movie is that from? I'm not a number Oh very good very good sir

21:11 Now, we got a lot of feedback on this and so I'm gonna tell you my experience. I'd love to hear what your experiences and as always on the No Agenda show we never speak before or outside the podcast unless it's of great importance about some you know something extremely important but we never talk we certainly never discuss the show what we're gonna do or what we're gonna say And by the way, Sir Gene was very surprised. He said I thought it was bullshit you actually he doesn't really know what the stories are So no, I don't know what his stories are no nothing we just come together were chatting that's the truth That's why that's a reason for our success. I'm convinced but here's what I receive because every so often We're both on kind of the same track or we can deconstruct with the other guys doing and we have a clip That's kind of complimentary. So it looks rigged Yeah But it's not it's not like that's that's the beauty out would ruin it now

22:04 There's no kind... we need that contemporaneous kind of style that makes the show actually work. And also after, you know two and a half hours I'm done with you and i think you're done with me! I don't want to talk to you anymore until the next one. After 2 hours is enough. So here are the types of notes I received One, I received A LOT and this was really heartwarming and this what I was going for No, seriously people who said you know what I can't believe. I am not a supporter of the show!

22:42 but that's what I should be doing and this is really all that i think we've ever asked for, is that on some regular basis you support the show. And people forget and they think oh you know that guy over there it's very socialist by the way where people are saying oh well he paid... He's a knight so he paid for me! I don't have to worry about it! You know this of course is what happens in the world So it was heartwarming to see so many people say look I can definitely scrounge $5 together and I love that because the majority of letters that I had been received or emails that I had been receiving Over the past couple months would usually go like this and tell me if you've received any John Hey, man. You know, I'm really broke right now so I can't donate but and then there's this whole letter I'm like is it really true? That you cannot find five dollars a month If you're really if you're really that broke And I find that hard to believe

23:37 If you're really if you if you could find two and a half hours to listen to the show You can probably find five dollars a month And it turns out that you can because people are signing up for the 1111's and beautiful so that very very heartwarming, and I'll tell you about another story in a moment we get to our associate executive producers but also I would say I received 80% of People who have donated to the to the show We're all in favor of closing the public part, just closing it down and doing subscription only. And so you and I did have a conversation late last night about this and we ran the numbers and we could actually do that and run it like a high-end financial subscription newsletter or whatever is correct?

24:27 Yeah, they run for 350 to actually between 295 and $1500 a year. Those newsletters... Right so we have enough... Many of them only come out once a month most of them are once a week Well that's the even that's yeah in fact We do twice a week already I think well we do twice a week but i believe that if we put together the proposition and people are literally asking for this do once a week, not specifically but we could do once a week. But do the show no donations, no thank yous closed off two hours and no other stuff that doesn't necessarily interest me happy to pay $35 a month which is pretty much on par with the high-end subscription and that's compelling! And I think still thinking it's good... We have enough reach to be able to do that

25:19 I would personally find that a failure of what we set out to do. Yeah, I agree with that. I think you're right. It is a failure of what we set out to do We have an idealistic proposition for people this value for value and it's a broad...and we push it out to broader base And uh..we make the show kind of mass market show by being goofy with the sound effects in the rest and if you did a subscription model or paywall model it would be silly actually to make the show, to produce the show with the way we produce it. It would kind of like pointless to have that dinging and then the noise in the... That kinda thing. Well no people also would like the entertainment Yeah when I don't imagine a financial newsletter with a buncha goofball stuff interspersed

26:14 being appreciated by too many of these people to stick up their ass and take those things. Well, we'd respectfully disagree on that but I imagine a lot of people could then even write it off for the company you know it's like oh yeah what is that high-end company that always does the research? Forrester Gardner's another one. They cost $1,500. We could probably hook up with them and have them pimp us don't you think? It has nothing to do with mass market media anyway so we do not want to resort to that

26:58 But we are going to make a few tweaks to the model and that will consist mainly of reminding you why your supporting the show. And guess what it's not for? It's not for all kinds of monkey boy crap, however... We stick with our tried and tested and true Hollywood model that if you are a producer of the show, an executive or associate executive producer... You truly are living the Hollywood dream. And if we had actresses, you would be banging them! You get to deco... I have this with everybody. Sorry? Yeah, if we had actresses they'd all be getting laid. Now if uh where are the actresses listening to our show anyway The one we had gave up the profession She said screw it! I'm doing photography you guys are getting me nowhere We do have an actress Tonya over here in a Dame Tonya yeah Dame Tonya she's an actress State Actress What are you saying Why we have one

CHAPTER 08 / 39 Discussion

Producer Note Policy, Reading Length Restrictions

Adam Curry announces a new policy regarding the reading of listener notes during the donation segment. To keep the show's pace, long and tedious notes will no longer be read in their entirety on air, though donors over $50 will still receive verbal credit. The hosts explain that this change is necessary to avoid "meltdowns" and maintain the entertainment value of the program.

producer notes· donations· executive producers· show format· credits

28:03 But I don't think she's gonna go to lunch. And she is very tired at this point. So anyway, uh...I was affected by one of the knights who just presented the idea and we're gonna drop, we're not reading notes anymore that's just the way it goes. We're going to read occasional notes, so we were going to read the notes ourselves but we're not going to read them over-the-air because they are long and they are tedious and there is too many of them and if you read the original support page at dvorek.org slash NA it says on their that anyone donating over $50 will be mentioned. It never said ever that we would read your entire

28:40 or note that goes on and on. We'll do a few douchebag call-outs, today we'll do some karma call outs but the notes are out. Let me just explain it you and I made this mistake where we started doing... You started reading the notes! Yeah if we started doing that and then I think I mentioned this a couple shows ago I became scared that if we didn't do that donations would drop off And I'm not kidding. It could still happen, but what I don't want to do is go through these meltdowns. I'd rather do an NPR donation drive than that because... I love those meltdowns! I think they're terrific and I love the trigger them. It is directly triggered by you but I don't like it. It upsets me. It's hurtful. This seems upset a few listeners too.

29:38 Well, anyway the point is that we're going to do just what we said. We always said which is credit everybody but were not gonna read every note or two there's a couple funny ones today for example that are worth reading they're short but were not reading those notes anymore because they are too long and take up too much of show most people complain about them even the people who actually donate now what got me was one of our knights says you know uh... notes which we will continue to do or the producer notes. He says, you think it... he says these guys are yak away about one thing or another and they get their two cents in about one thing or another. So do you think it would be better for me at night instead of giving $1,000 and getting the credit for it as such? Or should I maybe give 20 50 dollar donations and give you war and peace chapter by chapter with twenty donations which would you prefer

30:37 And he made a good point. I don't, we'd rather have you know nice donation that gets succinct and gets the job done and has something to say rather than 20 $50 donations each with a long note so notes are out yeah except for our execs an associate execs right? We have a bunch today So this is all through all this blather we've managed to kind of soft pedal but it's still going to be a lot of notes but But just for everyone should know in the future that we are minimizing to an extreme, discrediting people who give us

31:15 Or donate contribute or produce the show I mean, but it's just like Hollywood You know of course we do almost everything the executive producer and associate executive producer asked for our nights always have priority But we also have kind of like a casting couch So you know if there's something? You know there's some funny little pretty thing that's down there at the bottom. We want to bring that up to the top excuse me Pay no attention to me. It was sexist crap is that yeah? I'm trying to be Hollywood baby So let's thank our executive producers for today show 495. 494 is the one I have. Oh it's 494, that's funny they made a mistake. Yes the back office made a mistake. Back office made a mistak- Not a small one by the way. Well it's

CHAPTER 09 / 39 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits, Donation Segment 494

The hosts read through the list of Executive and Associate Executive Producers for Episode 494, acknowledging significant financial contributions. Donors from Minnesota, Australia, and various US states are credited, with some receiving "karma" or "jingles" as requested. The segment includes a discussion on using bank bill-pay systems to avoid PayPal fees and a brief tangent about adding basil to macaroni and cheese.

donations· executive producers· knighthood· karma· jingles

31:57 Anyway, he got $500 from Anonymous in Wah-wah. Wah-hee-wah hot wah? Wah-wah? Wah-heeh-wah? Wah-hee-wah? Some place in Hawaii. Wah-hee-wah! And you know this is about as short as you can get. Schmitty in Richfield Minnesota also came with the 500 dollars becomes a member of the 500 Club and has been working his way out of debt still could afford $500 for us all the while think I could afford to donate when my debts are paid Thursday's episode made me realize I'm indebted to you guys with the value for value of giving me over the past two years is twenty dollars a month for the past 25 months hey now I'll be setting up a subscription my theory on lot of people have done subscriptions through their bank account you can get the check mail that goes right into the post office box no overhead and the banks don't charge it for postage

32:44 Anyway, I'll be setting up a subscription my theory on why donations are down 2% payroll tax increase probably something to do with it. I know it took me by surprise when it went into effect in January But that's not it's not universal. I mean we don't get donations from America everything's incremental That's true Simon Bennett hips which Suffolk 494 which puts him as an executive producer and for 94 club yeah perfect And he wants to get, in his getting laid karma plus a birthday call we have that. Thanks keeping it short Absolutely well and we also try to keep yours long You've got karma With your... Getting laid Karma Your just on a roll today aren't you? Oh yeah Robert Frapples in Fair Park Ohio

33:30 Hello Alex and Mike, please refer to me as Robert Frapples. Feel free to admit reading any of the following." And we admitted one two and read three will continue his $4 subscription forever. Four John try a pinch of basil in your mac and cheese. What? Can I interrupt the flow here just mention something yes there are classics after talking about this the other day My parents, my mom who couldn't cook for crap she made one or two. Nice! The woman is dead That's not nice. She still can't cook, I don't care! So she couldn't cook very well and but she made a couple of dishes including my family made this potato salad dish which i really haven't messed with...I've made these same dishes and these are just kind of classic simple simple simple dishes and you try to fancy them up and they always it always ruins the dish and they and the kind of vibe that

34:32 do anything with mac and cheese. It's not mac and cheese anymore! Hold on, hold on, hold on I think that you and i should come up with the definitive meal of the slaves, the no agenda mac and cheese. I believe there is something we can be done to it maybe its the $2.00? Sorry in a box it costs a dollar from Kraft. Okay... Onward and he'd like some karma for his wife in the hopes her stupid employer will quit worrying about a lawsuit, and just fire her so I can get on disability. Wow! Alright yeah send some to us! Yeah get on that disability

35:12 So Ross, so that's 431-67. And Robert will be knighted today that completes his knighthood We got another knight coming up which is Joseph Ransom in Spring Texas You should go say hi to him I should 400 thanks for the show including my expired $5 subscription this should finish my knighthood suggestion regarding making the podcast private perhaps make one show a week available by subscription only. We've talked about this to an excess on the show, which is the problem with half and half is that we have too many cross-references and I don't remember enough problems with the shows. So you didn't finish reading what he said?

35:47 The other public you didn't finish that part so people know what you're talking about. So that's the half and half Perhaps one yes, one subscription one public can you get new listeners by the benefits of a private subscription? Also known as freemium And if I ever start a business under the freemium model please come here and shoot me can I yes please yeah That's freemium It's not it doesn't work as well as the value for value if we get people, you know, if we could get Adam to go and fall apart. Wade Deming in Anchorage Alaska 3333... Very nice thank you Wade. I have a comment some place but there wasn't one in the PayPal thing let's see if Deming said something.

36:32 Yeah, Wade Deming and he's got no note here either. So we're good to go Webs What? webs com e business service from Rick and Modesto Find it classifieds calm It's been a couple of months since I donated it was feeling kind of douchey after hearing Adams call for support felt compelled to donate He needs some karma for his website Find it classifieds.com. Karma. I wonder what that is? Maybe you can find some classifieds. Fighting the powers-that-be with the Craigslist Richard Garton and more New South Wales Australia 313 13 313 13 Can't bear the thought of not having no agenda to listen to Thursday's talking too was a kick up the arse You know, the British always use arce Yeah because an ass is donkey

37:29 I needed to finally make another donation after two year absence which I apologize. Travel Karma please for an upcoming work trip to the US! Where he's looking to opt out. Oh, well please before we continue I have received yet another five Five successful no agenda travel tip number two exercises which as you know the first one is to always take your your economy ticket get in the premium line and then ask for the full valet service and But we're just winning left and right. Producer Brian said, guys quick report from SFO that's your neck of the woods John San Francisco

38:10 Well, I normally prefer priority line with valet service. I was in a hurry to get through the security screening recently. I employed no agenda travel trip number two! Let them know it was quite painful to raise my arm above my shoulder No opt-out protocol was invoked and I went right through the magnetometer with no massage nor small talk with a man servant So it works this is fine This is genius Well we're on it Yes It's a genius find So great, and I'll give him his karma. There you go travel karma and try number two You've got Karma of course I realize miss Mickey And I can't deploy that when we travel together be a little weird like too tall to giant yeah, do blonde John hey? I also raised my arms. I can't raise my arms. You can't raise your arms either what I have a big blond disease

39:01 I can't raise my arms. You could run together and go into the thing and say you have some weird sex fetish that has resulted in both of you unable to raise your arms, but you can't say why? If we wear our furry suits maybe... We had a furry accident? We have to explain what furries are to people out there. Just Google it, people! Sir Brad Doherty in Brooklyn New York 313 13 jumpstarting my second knighthood with this upping of monthly donations at 3333 you guys should just shut down the chat room By the way we're going to have new levels for knights to go towards by popular request People want a new level coming up

39:47 Paul Roberson, Fairfax Virginia 313. He did send us a lengthy note but mostly suggestions about you know how we can improve things and this is the special 313-13 donation level for our 500. Right for the 31st of March which is this month we have our 500th show S. Russell Williams, Sir Russell to you Boise Idaho 313-313 after the last show I was slightly afraid Adam might hurt himself with the sword that i gave him last summer Adam don't do it! That thing is dangerous by the way this is a real sub ward put him in a case It isn't a case but the sheath slips off easily

40:29 Though I mean a case on the wall Like a plastic that you make you frame it anyway inside You should just take a swing at any chatroom D bag that gets within striking distance screw those guys Thanks all you do to create this First house for jingles. I'd like to test my own attempt at neuro linguistic programming Can I please have Atlas shrug don't be a denier d'vorak? You will obey well seeing as he's an executive producer We'll do that so what is don't be a denier oh Oh, the Sci- Science is in. No it's The Science Is In I got it, I got it. Uh... uh... Uh... Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand Don't feel denied! The science is in! Science! You will obey. You will obey. You will obey See that's funny. You think? Yeah because of the jingle you hate followed by one we love and then you being wacky

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42:08 300 I give a shit guys no show is too long more is better. I need this show Adam keep calm and carry on think it's keep calm and chive on but I may be confused the Incog negro in Elkins Park PA a new donor on the scene yeah, they incognito What does this say aggravating your Virgo sensibilities brought Cha-Cho but also the evolution of your consciousness a harsh lesson about the 99% and the dawning of the boutique niche YouTube will soon find after making you free podcast to subscription service Taking your free podcast to a subscription service my yoga teacher also believes that the universe will provide But she charges each of her students none. None the less we get all kinds of spiritual wit it after dat yo food for that This is there's some characters here I can't see now for the home slice I've been out of work for the past 20 months and My government sponsored slave benefits package is about to expire pains me to hear your angst

43:12 almost as much as it pains me to witness my dismal financial situation but with job search karma for a new nurse I'm sure things will turn around JCD you dry white toast on that DH unplug show please cherish your boy AC and all in all his bi curious glory because he is your karmic ID loosed upon us AC do us all a favor and take it easy on the old boy. He's from an entirely different planet find your Metro antics an ADD related effect disconcerting Disconcerting I say there, I said it for you JCD no jingle No bullshit stay frosty Jensen keep up the good work Bing well that is what I call these correct deconstruction of the Noah agenda podcast right there in a perfect in a bucket

44:03 Thank you, Incognigro. I like the name too by the way. That's a good one. William Straughan Wolverine La something or other let me stretch this out Oh, Lake. Wolverine Lake? Michigan 200 and this will be our final associate. No we have one more but that's a little story oh you got some uncompromised propaganda skewering you do is rare and priceless this country needs you guys way more than it needs CNN and it would be a damn shame if you had to quit because only 1% of listeners donate maybe harping on this percentage will help get people out

CHAPTER 10 / 39 Discussion

Armand Guerra, Mailman Donation Story

Adam Curry shares a heartwarming story about his new mailman, Armand Guerra, who hand-delivered a $200 cash donation to Curry's home in Austin. Guerra admitted to being a "douchebag" listener who hadn't donated since August and wanted to correct his status. This interaction revitalized Curry's confidence in the Value for Value model following a period of frustration.

armand guerra· mailman· austin· donations· value for value

44:41 Out of meaning to but never getting around to it mode if every listener stopped waiting and just donated Something that would help a lot right may I have some next steps karma. He says thanks? I love you dudes You gotta read yeah, he's gotta say loves you You've got karma so So after, so it's a Friday and I'm and I am it was really Miss Mickey was very affected by this too. You know she normally comes bouncing in oh I love the show like she didn't even come in the studio after Thursday yeah oh yeah I'm good you're that good John that's good douche

45:27 And so, you know I'm demure and then and i'm also nervous for this South by Southwest talk. So im not in a good place Friday the doorbell rings and there's a guy there and he says hi I'm your new mailman and uh... What? I'm your new mailman. And i've also been a douchebag since August, I'd like to correct that. Oh! That's hilarious! I was just listening to the show from yesterday His name is Armand Guerra So we had him come in he gave us $200 cash To be an associate executive producer Talk about delivering the mail That turned my world around

46:11 I'm like, can you believe how awesome? That's where our eyes are. We have... So then i'm like yes! Yes all you we just forgot to remind people that this it you know you need rocket fuel right yeah we're just idiots so it's our fault It's our fault for letting the donation segment go all crazy and wacky, but honestly we weren't having fun with it anymore. And when we're not having fun no one else is going to have fun so onward! We have lots of incredibly important stuff that talk about. We thank our profusely thank our executive producers and associate executive producers there will be a knighting ceremony coming up during this program So stay tuned for that really really appreciate you keeping us on the air and then you know This is a real credit

46:57 If we had actresses or actors, they'd be here for you waiting for you. Right? Yeah, yeah sure. If we had tables full of coke we'd be doing it with you instead all you got is a thank-you note but we really do appreciate it and everyone needs to support this program It is value for value We can't have commercials because we could never do the show if we were compromised that way Devorac dot org slash N A And of course we always appreciate the promotion go out there and hit someone in the mouth Our formula is this We hit people in the mouth. Shut up! And I want to start off by putting this show on the highest level possible, really showing people the kind of things we do. Oh well hold on a second then...I'm sure it's time for Real News. Now back to real news Am i right? Well It is kinda real news This is the new- I've been monitoring different parts of the world but this week was New York City Wait a minute can I just get a visual So you're in your bunker

CHAPTER 11 / 39 Discussion

New York City, Gramercy Park Public Urination

A local news report details the frustrations of residents in New York City's upscale Gramercy neighborhood regarding intoxicated bar patrons. Residents complain that the streets are being used as public toilets, citing frequent incidents of public urination and defecation. The hosts use the story to illustrate what they perceive as the ongoing collapse of social order in Manhattan.

new york city· gramercy park· public health· sports bars· urban decay

48:14 And you're monitoring. I'm monitoring, I've got big jobs and... You're monitoring different parts of the world! Okay, I got the visual, I'm good, go! The New York City story. Okie dokie hold on This came in on the big dial number three. You know, Tamsen residents here on East 15th Street they say they can deal with the noise and the rowdiness from the bars and restaurants around here but it's what happens after midnight that just might be beyond your imagination Are people peeing on your building? No more peeing, please. That's the plea from residents of this East 15th Street apartment building in the upscale Gramercy neighborhood They're fed up with the urine from drunk bar patrons and are

49:00 Oh, it gets worse. Sometimes they actually have diarrhea. They do defecate yes in our front yard. Tenants say the problem lies down the block they claim some patrons of the sports bar sidebar are using their block as a toilet people just indulged a little too much. There are several bars on their block, but the crowd they say comes from here this woman walks with a cane and for her the so-called rowdiness became treacherous as I've walked by they've almost knocked me down patrons say it's no worse here than any other Manhattan bar when it gets past midnight I've never seen any of that ever we tried to get answers or response from the bars management give us one second I'm not at liberty speaker he may not be able to speak

49:46 But I heard a woman screaming. Residents are more than happy to when it comes to their neighborhood There's five or six bars on this one street This place is really overwhelmed with drinkers I got diarrhea! You know This is New York. It's it's collapsing on the New York's the worst this is Gramercy Park It's unreal we don't I mean everyone in Austin right now is freaking hammered, and they're not pooping and peeing everywhere Just just not done In fact we shoot you here if we catch you doing diarrhea Well do you think that story's bad? Oh, No listen to the lead into the cannibal cops

CHAPTER 12 / 39 Discussion

Gilberto Valli, Cannibal Cop Conspiracy Trial

The hosts discuss the federal trial of NYPD officer Gilberto Valli, famously known as the "Cannibal Cop." Valli was accused of conspiring in online chat rooms to kidnap and eat women, though his defense argued the communications were merely dark fantasies. The discussion focuses on the concept of "pre-crime" and whether online speech constitutes a legal conspiracy without overt action.

gilberto valli· cannibal cop· nypd· conspiracy· pre-crime

50:31 story. Oh yeah, I've been following this is pretty interesting. Alright G thank you so much. Will jury get another New York fine one? The whole weekend to think about whether an NYPD officer actually wanted to kill cook and eat women no verdict after a day of deliberations James Ford is live at federal court in lower Manhattan with more James And Tamsen, when this jury takes up deliberations again Monday morning. Actually that's a phrase that many legal experts were not expecting me or any reporter to have to say they thought this case would be over by now so what ended up happening? We consulted an arguably more experienced legal expert for some insight

51:11 The fate of so-called cannibal cop Gilberto Valli continues to hang in the balance at court after the jury spent a day and half deliberating on a case for which some legal analysts thought Valli would walk on the most serious charge against him, conspiring with other men online to kidnap women cook them and eat them. You slaves can get used to mac and cheese. Mac and cheese, mac and cheese. Macaroni and cheddar melted together. Mac and cheese, mac and cheese! And throw in a young babe for good measure This is an interesting story you have been following it? Yeah of course I've been following this are you kidding me It appears that this was uh... there's a lot of this especially in

51:55 Era a lot of fantasizing that seems to be yeah Because he was he was communicate as I saw it. I think is a great story to report on but he was apparently and these guys said He was communicating with I guess wasn't like an IRC chat room or AOL chat room or something like that Yeah, no agenda there were like all over the world this one guy in Moscow And a guy in Prague They never got together, they never really intended to but I guess they liked to talk about this idea. Yeah of course! And that became a pre-crime and now they're gonna still bust the guy for conspiracy even though there's never been any evidence that he was ever going to do anything. He was a cop! Well I think it was...they had rented an apartment or something? Didn't they do something like that? No no, that's true. Yeah there was something. If you rent an apartment then its a problem. If you did more than just gas online like most people do

CHAPTER 13 / 39 Discussion

Drone Warfare, Chris Matthews and Ron Reagan Jr

The hosts analyze a segment from MSNBC where Chris Matthews and Ron Reagan Jr. discuss the ethics of drone strikes against American citizens overseas. They criticize the "ease of killing" expressed by media figures and the lack of transparency regarding the rules of engagement. The discussion highlights the divide between surveillance and lethal force in domestic and foreign contexts.

drones· chris matthews· ron reagan jr· msnbc· targeted killing

53:35 Stop with your... What is happening to our world? How does the word diarrhea go to di-diarrhea? I mean, we're... This is a problem. Alright can I take us Can I move us up a level in- What? Yeah. Okay, you can take us up a level since we want to bring up some visibility of the show to some high art. We definitely need to go to some other places Okay, so this drone story Which of course if you're a the producer of the no agenda podcast You've been listening for a couple years. You've been hearing about the drones way before all of this and now we're almost tired of it but I'm just I can still stay with the story and what's fascinating to me is that we have The left So, you know the MSNBC and basically all the Obama bots are

54:43 literally cheering this on and that you know and saying droning and killing people they talk about killing people with such incredible ease it's amazing isn't it so here's Chris Matthews and he has Ronald Reagan jr. on who yeah I I'm not quite sure if he had a promising career for awhile as like was out in the today show or whatever he would who's kind of gonna be the next guy he's a drip, he really is a drip and so he but even you know even he is like well just listen to this it's disturbing to hear how the ease of killing people even Americans but doesn't matter if oh its not American fuck that guy. I want to get back to you and your concerns are you concerned that we're using drones against non-americans? Are you concerned were used as American overseas or Americans at home dichotomize that

55:42 Where are you concerned? Well, I'm concerned that there's no real transparency as Cynthia pointed out and no real rules around this. When are we allowed to kill American citizens overseas? Are we allowed to use drones in any way shape or form domestically for surveillance? Okay well so he is thinking... okay Ron Reagan Jr promising but then... You know what I like here, I like a US citizen overseas working with the enemy We hit him. We knew we were hitting him when we hit him, where you on that? That is a tough one. That's a tough one!

CHAPTER 14 / 39 Discussion

Jane Fonda, John McCain Drone Debate

Senator John McCain uses actress Jane Fonda as a hypothetical example during a debate on drone policy, arguing that the government would never target her despite her controversial history. The hosts discuss Fonda's "Hanoi Jane" nickname and her anti-war activism during the Vietnam era. They also touch on urban legends regarding her physical appearance and McCain's personal animosity toward her.

jane fonda· john mccain· drones· hanoi jane· treason

56:18 I wasn't even working with the enemy. His main thing was he was inciting violence, which means that Southern Law Poverty Center should have gone after him. That would have done it. But he produced a lot of tapes and you know there were a bunch of people who worked up about it... Uh-huh, uh-huh! I'm glad you brought this up. Thank you for playing right into my hand. There's a definition that is now being thrown out there and I had completely forgotten about this, I had missed it but of course who was the man to bring it to us? Who was Mr. Kill-Everybody Dronum himself? Come on you know his name Dick Cheney Oh close John McCain

57:00 Oh yes. Yes, I think that to assume that the United States of America would use a drone and a Hellfire missile to attack someone sitting in a cafe... What does that mean? This goes back to our previous conversation we want to capture people! We don't wanna kill them! So but so of course the conversation is about or Senator Rand Paul's filibuster. Right, they're blasting it. I want to interject here we had the three famous douchebags on C-SPAN and we did clips with them and that means Hayden and that guy who was the head of CIA's illegal section these guys worried about getting ignited

57:45 there's three of them and they all said the same thing we do not want to capture them that's the point because because the Obama administration has set down rules about capturing you if they just don't rule is go kill him it's easier to deal with it's like they was like a David watching too many you know cop movies where this says well we can make this expensive for the taxpayer or he Or he can make it cheap and then they kill the criminal. Well, so here's the thing that Rand Paul missed Here is a thing that Eric Holder didn't address And John McCain slips in so beautifully I went oh wow! I completely forgot about that Because what was his main argument? He said

58:28 We don't want a drone Jane Fonda. Now for those of you who don't know, Jane Fonda also nicknamed Hanoi Jane she... well maybe you can explain better John just so we know about her her protest. Jane Fond is an actress, everyone knows who she is and during the 60's she hooked up with I think he was out of Santa Monica maybe in the mayor at that time I'm not sure but Hayden was his name as a radical left new left winger and she became radicalized anti-war girl named Hanoi Jane and she went to Hanoi that's what she got the nickname and she came back saying oh they're so they're wonderful people and we shouldn't be having this war. And it was just kind of skewed but she was like a whack job about the whole thing. People hated her, and people like hated her!

59:15 Well, the protest... war protesters didn't hate her. No But she seemed like a dingbat even to the war protesters to be honest about it To be fair she had also... Hadn't she done Barbarella? Was that her movie? She did Barbarella and then she married the director of that And by the way, Barbarella I think Barbarella when I saw That was my when i got my first erection I think as a child She's pretty hot in Barbarella Yeah smoking hot! I was like what is this Yeah, I know she was a like see she exploited her female ex you know air Characteristics and to an extreme into the point where I think she had two ribs removed when she got older I Think that may be a little bit of here. She's never denied it

59:57 Why even... I mean, no. That's like- She uses her female wiles is the word I was looking for. Period! Hold on. The rib removal was also later brought back about 10 years ago with Dita Von Hays who is girlfriend of Marilyn Manson And you know, and she has the crazy thin waist. Oh! She had her ribs removed to be able to do that man. Alright, ribs removed or not? And then there's also always the story about the guy who had his ribs removed so he could perform self fellatio I mean this is bullshit. I don't buy it. Never heard that one but we should keep up

1:00:37 Anyway, so okay. So thank you very much and of course he's laughing because we can't kill Barbarella with a drone Little tidbit heat cuz McCain after the war was over Hated Jane Fonda because she felt that she was left in jail longer or something north because of her Yes, it's her fault. So he is going to say that he wouldn't kill Jane Fonda and I think we should have a real debate in America. I think we should have a vote but... Should Jane Fonda be droned? Drone Fonda! Oh nice, drone Fonda. Nice alright

CHAPTER 16 / 39 Discussion

Flight 93, John McCain Shoot Down Comments

During a discussion on national security, Senator John McCain suggests that the President has the authority to shoot down hijacked planes, referencing the aircraft that crashed in Pennsylvania on September 11, 2001. The hosts compare this to previous controversial statements by Donald Rumsfeld, questioning if McCain was implying that Flight 93 was actually shot down by the military.

john mccain· flight 93· pennsylvania· 9/11· donald rumsfeld

1:04:12 Well, that depends on what matrix you just stepped out of brother. There are threats suppose there's another airplane headed for the United States Capitol Now listen to this very carefully! Oh I gotta roll this back This is unbelievable what he's about to say Listen very carefully It's not the world of reality that we're living in but there are threats Suppose there's another airplane headed for the United States Capitol such as one that crashed in Pennsylvania I can assure you that, and I'm confident that we have the capability if necessary of the President to shoot that plane down. Now hold on a second! We didn't shoot the plane down as it was coming from Pennsylvania That was the let's roll flight 93 everybody got them and they flew into the ground or maybe what did Donald Rumsfeld say again? Imagine the kind of world we would face If people who bombed the best hall in Mosul

1:05:08 Or the people who did the bombing in Spain, or the people who attacked the United States in New York. Shot down a plane over Pennsylvania. I'm... you know, did John McCain know something too? They shot down the plane! Yeah! In Pennsylvania. I can assure you that and I am confident that we have the capability if necessary of the President to shoot that plane down Thank you. Well, I guess that's what happened then seeing as Rumsfeld said it and Seeing is your now basically saying we could do it we should have There there may be innocent Americans on that plane he I mean is this guy nuts?

1:05:50 There may be someone better give him a call. He's what did he say there maybe there maybe so In Pennsylvania you think it's to me Oh here We have the North Koreans testing nuclear weapons threatening to attack the United States of America Iran in Iran, the centrifuges continue to spin 80 thousand people killed now at least or 70,000 in Syria. The whole Middle East is in a state of near chaos in many areas and frankly my highest priority is not my concern that they may kill an American with a Hellfire missile in a cafe in the United States of America! That's not my concern. Oh okay I'm glad you're not president douche

CHAPTER 17 / 39 Discussion

Treason Law, Lord Coke and Judicial Construction

The hosts examine the historical legal definitions of treason, citing Lord Coke's interpretations of "aiding and abetting." They discuss how these ancient legal concepts are being adapted to modern warfare, including the prosecution of individuals involved with IEDs or anti-war editorials. The segment concludes that the definitions of treason remain in a state of dangerous flux.

treason· lord coke· legal history· constitution· abetting

1:06:41 My goodness, I don't give a crap if we had we drove it unless is Jamie my concern. It's not my concern Let's just say fonda because you know Barbara Ella dude You can't kill Barbara Ella no matter how you know No matter how much he aids and comforts the enemy? I need some more background on this I brought up a constitutional explanation here. These words are as they are to be understood in the Constitution, have not received a full judicial construction. They import however help support assistance continence and encouragement The word aid which occurs in the Stat West 1 C 14 is explained by Lord Coke Yeah he's reliable

1:07:29 as comprehending, as all persons counseling abetting plotting assenting consenting and encouraging to do the act. And he adds what is not applicable to the crime to treason who are those who are not present when the act is done interesting So maybe it's not treason if you weren't there aiding and abetting, aiding and comforting. As you know they have been expanding these definitions. Yeah like IEDs. The definition are in flux And it is possible that if you wrote an editorial in the New York Times

1:08:10 bitching about the war or about the Al Qaeda being you know non-aggressive again the three douchebags are on that C-SPAN thing. Wait a minute, wait a minute... They said al Qaedas done! There is no Al Qaeda anymore Is this your Sunday Time segment? Is that what we're calling for? No, do you want to hear the Sunday Time segment John's gonna harm the Sunday Times. Today, Sunday Times is one pound 11 point five ounces and that is from 1 pound 11 point 4 ounces of last week and down from 1 pound 11 point 6 ounces the week before

CHAPTER 18 / 39 Discussion

Obama Media, Republican Drone Precedent Concerns

The hosts critique the "Obama-bot" media for supporting expanded executive killing powers while the current administration is in office. They highlight the hypocrisy of pundits who only express concern about drone authority when imagining a future Republican president, such as Newt Gingrich or Michelle Bachmann, wielding the same power.

barack obama· drones· partisan politics· legislation· nobel peace prize

1:08:54 John's gonna hum the Sunday Times. scale, it's cool. It is made with MEMS. Is that from Stamps.com? No I got the scale for this... That is not a bad scale either but doesn't have the readout This was on sale as an Easter egg at Costco about six months ago and its beauty Just on the drone thing just to kind of wrap that up and actually I'll wrap it up with a drone jingle What's interesting about the kind of the new meme now on the pro-Obama, let's just put it this way. The Obama bot media, the ones who are completely buying into The Matrix is to say well you know because of course no one really likes this. No one...The drone thing is scary and even the Obama bots

1:09:53 the controlled morons can see that this is not going to end well for anybody, these drones flying around and droning people. And you know in the cafe which is what... I'm at the cafe having my coffee! It's too hard to send a police cruiser over there and pick the guy up right but they all see that this is kind of difficult so we need legislation but it has to be really really good because.... I hate to pop your bubble but here's something we have to remember problem is not going to be in the white house forever there's gonna be somebody else sitting there and someday it's going to be a republican and would you really trust george bush or dick cheney or a newt gingrich for herman cain or michelle bachmann or you name it or a ran paul to use this kind of authority uh... and to have that kind of a project killing authority

1:10:45 Here in the United States, no freaking way. It's dumbfounding to me! It's like you know what? We really need that... The way it is explained is like we really need have good legislation because one day its not going be the man who has a Nobel Peace Prize Its not gonna be that guy who has the kill list. It could be somebody. The good guy Who has killed more people with these drones than ever in our history It's just nuts. I... Lovely! Lovely, lovely, lovely, lovely, lovely We're talking about people being picked up on the streets which is seems like something... Seems normal

CHAPTER 19 / 39 Discussion

Local News, Jersey City Police Shooting Report

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak deconstruct a local news report from Jersey City involving a police shooting of a man with a knife. They mock the reporter's lack of confirmed facts and the repetitive use of the slang term "perp" (perpetrator). The hosts characterize local news production as a "Mickey Mouse shop" with low standards and unenthusiastic staff.

jersey city· police shooting· journalism· perp· local news

1:11:31 I got a clip here. Yeah, it's the one that says quiz clip at the end This was another...I hate this...I'm gonna beat the drum on this all day but it is in New York and again New York I want you to listen to this clip This is not a clip thats important for its...this is a clip that I want you to listen to see if there something screwy This is almost like an ask Adam. What is screwy about the let's put the but word usage in this particular clip that kind of jumps out at you tonight cops in Jersey City just shot a perp swinging a knife McGee Hickey is live on the scene with the very latest wait a minute Mickey hickeys Then they call her Marge or something for us McGee what's going on? Oh

1:12:12 Well, Tampson Jersey City Police still on the scene here at 239 Fowler Avenue where we're told that there was a man who barricaded himself inside of an apartment and then according to people on the street here he lunged at police with a knife. He was then we are told shot three times by police officers. Again, all of this information unconfirmed it is from people here on the scene at 239 Fowler Avenue that man the perp who allegedly lunged at police with a knife was taken in very bad shape There's so much wrong with this reporting. No kidding! I don't know where to start, so it's 239 Fowler Avenue which for some reason that's important That's the only fact she has because i guess there was a drop of blood We have no actual evidence the police shot him, no actual evidence that he lunged at the police we have nothing This is a nothing story except that she is standing apparently in front of 237 Fowler Avenue

1:13:09 Yeah, okay. Here's what I got out of it... The story itself has got some screwiness because the guy supposedly barricades himself and then somehow lunges at the police from inside? So the basic story makes no sense And then Mickey, Ricky whatever the heck her name is What got me is that the anchor threw it to her and she used the word perp, and then Ricky used the word perp. What is this law-and-order special victims? Who uses the word... what news person uses the word perp and then uses the word allegedly outside of the word perp? Perp means perpetrator so wouldn't it be alleged perp I mean who uses perp? Douchebag newspeople

1:13:53 Okay. Yeah, it's funny because I heard that too and but it was so much wrong with it. I just said I was going beyond the obvious lunacy that is news perp yeah, I wonder if that's probably because I would presume in the newsroom in general And you have to understand, if you've ever really been inside certainly local news this is Mickey Mouse shop. It's really Mickey Mouse no budget the person who was doing the on-the-scene reporting hates that job they want to be behind a desk nice and cozy

1:14:30 But they don't want to be out there being sent to Fowler Avenue, you know, to go and talk to idiots and get nothing. And the cops tell her nothing but they probably... Hey we got a perp over there! I'll talk to him! Hey who's on perp duty? So that's how they talk. They're so blasé about what they do I was like, oh let's see what's on the schedule for tonight's news. Oh! We haven't filled our perp slot yet Can we get someone to go get a perp story? It's- I'm presuming something like that

CHAPTER 20 / 39 Discussion

Prepper SDR, Portable Radio Technology Project

Adam Curry describes his "Prepper SDR" (Software Defined Radio) project, a portable black box designed for emergency communications. The device allows users to connect via Wi-Fi using a smartphone or laptop to monitor and transmit on various radio bands. Dvorak advises Curry on patenting the idea and the risks of manufacturing the device in China.

sdr· ham radio· prepper· technology· manufacturing· wireless

1:15:09 Maybe I don't know. I just never I've never heard anyone of course haven't been listening to New York news that much As it's a slang Term why would a news reporter use it perp and it's also kind of a lousy? I don't like the word It sounds I don't like the sound of it poop poop perp no, not good anyway So how are you monitoring when you get when you're in the bunker in your geranimals um How are you monitoring the world? What knobs have you got? I've got the big control center and these two big knobs. To my immediate right there is a lever that I pull very slowly, and then antenna goes straight up out of the middle of the house

1:15:53 It's way into the air and then it starts going beep, beep, beep. And a little red light on the top lights up because of legal reasons. So I pull that thing up and then start to use the tuners and I hone in on various parts of the country. I think I built that box here actually my demo is done by the way. The uh... My uh... I'm calling it the Prepper SDR I'm going to do a video about it. But it's a black box, you literally screw an antenna on the back plug in an adapter power supply could be a car power and then just fire up either your smartphone or your laptop Mac Windows Linux everything works with it. And I was doing digital modes. I'm doing like 2000 miles with this thing on one watt just on those frigging wire It's amazing! That is amazing! And I think that can get it in production for $399

1:17:02 Can't you get it cheaper? No, I don't think so. What's so expensive about it Well there's a one watt transmitter which is every $29 box that got Wi-Fi and can have no okay But also has Wi-Fi because you're connecting to it via Wi-Fi So yeah, so that's the cool thing about or you're not connecting so you couldn't take this thing on the road You can put it you know anywhere where it's convenient for you And then you can connect through Wi-Fi or if you want, you can connect it to the internet and just connect to it through the internet. But you know... Okay, so you connect to the internet and then I talk to it? If you want. Now if you want, you can literally use your laptop microphone for just a voice conversation. I can do voice over this? Yes! That's all CW. No no it's sideband, CW but its digital modes. Do you have to have a PAM license?

1:18:00 Yes, well not to receive but to use it. Yes. Well what's the what license do you need? Can he doing on a tech You can do certain bands on attack yes multiple bands. Yes It's software-defined so it does it goes from 80 meters up to 15 meters so it's got quite a range So if you sell a thousand of them, you'd have $398,000 in net sales. Yeah What does that give you as a profit? How much do you make per box? Well I don't know now I've got to find... You know there's a couple people who want to talk to me about manufacturing it China

1:18:40 Yeah, I wish i didn't have to resort to that but it seems like that's the way to go. But then the Chinese if you do... They'll steal it! They'll steal the whole idea. Right they'll steal the idea one false move and get screwed So can I patent this idea? I think I should right yeah duh well how do we know now that I've said this on the air am I too late is someone gonna rush off and patent it or just good no I'm sure that you got little idiosyncratic aspects to it that no one you're not explaining But I would definitely get the book Patented Yourself from Nolo Press and go cheap. Patented yourself from Nolo Press, okay? Yeah no it's also cool because... It has early filings and you can fix the patent later So let's say that you are both camping as an example which could happen

1:19:22 and I bring the Prepper SDR so you can use your laptop or smartphone, it'll work right on your Android. Got an app for it and you could connect to the same box now we can't both transmit at the same time but you can listen to what I'm listening too and then I can give you control then you couldn't change the frequency in transmit its cool It's going to be fun. It has no use other than for people who are hams, who are excited about a platform to screw around with... You might sell a million of them for all you know! Yeah, I do know that you're not gonna sell any more. No, I'm pretty sure I won't. And then the other thing that is cool is there is the prepper community so if everything falls to crap then this is the box you want to have

1:20:10 Because you know it operates on a battery, you know. You can communicate all around the world Hmm, you don't need that you don't I mean you won't need to have license when that happens rs some of the family radio system some of these other bands that are uh? You know wide open yeah, but that's just has no reach she don't want that now you want this thing For one you know you want this thing in your in your bunker okay? You just want it tucked away Okay, I'll get one of course Joe. No. I'll give you up. I'm gonna give you one oh You are my f***ing friend. You know I was anyway we're explaining. I had the lever and I got the two knobs, but I did pick up one time this happens very rarely But I did get inside an office I guess that the Wi-Fi was open to a mic or something so i'm dealing just Listening and listening And again I did record it just so I don't know what it was but it was kind of interesting are you doing stick here is that? TPS report

CHAPTER 21 / 39 Discussion

North Korea, Nuclear Threats and Toyota Trucks

North Korea issues a preemptive nuclear strike threat against the United States following new UN sanctions. The hosts discuss the media's reaction to Kim Jong Un's rhetoric and the curious mention of Toyota pickup trucks as potential delivery vehicles for nuclear devices. They joke about Toyota's unintentional "product placement" as the preferred vehicle for global terrorist groups.

north korea· kim jong un· toyota· nuclear strike· sanctions

1:22:04 I don't know what that was. I just picked it up out of the air and recorded it. Right, all right onward North Korea the People's Republic of in so important this story did Diane Sawyer Shows up sober to intro it so this you know something's up She looks mean North Korea and a sharp new warning of all-out war for the first time the mysterious and secretive nation has threatened a preemptive nuclear strike against the u.s.. It comes as the UN approves tough new sanctions. So how dangerous is the situation? What countermeasures could America take? Here's ABC's Chief Global Affairs Correspondent, Martha Raddatz. Martha! Roll it on me Martha this is serious business

1:22:53 Thousands upon thousands of North Koreans rallied today around a North Korean general delivering that stunning threat. A first strike nuclear attack with the vow to engulf Washington DC in a sea of fire. They're threatening a nuclear preemptive attack, never done that before The young North Korean dictator despite the diversion of Dennis Rodman's visit now lashing out against the US and South Korean military. Okay, so you get the idea about what's going on and I have a theory about Dennis Rodman, a new one we'll get to in a second but of course it is so obvious that the memo went out... You know ABC is completely compromised they are the most compromised of all seeing as literally the news director sleeping with Obama administration Literally married two sleeping the whole deal maybe even having some furry sex

1:23:44 So the memo has gone out and of course it goes to the Council on Foreign Relations, so Erin Burnett over there at the CNNs. She has to really lay it on I mean really lay it on and she's got some idiot on this show who you know remember those movies we the two movies were talking about Odyssey White House down and Odyssey has... Olympus has fallen. The two movies about the president, you know the White House being blown up. We interpreted it as threats by some intelligence agency So I think this is just adding to that reaction because our words were pretty interesting Oh she's gonna play a little bit of Victoria Newland at the State Department

1:24:27 She's taking my gig basically. This kind of bellicose rhetoric from the DPRK is not surprising, it's not new this regime has regularly missed the opportunity to improve its relationship with the outside world And Gordon obviously she's trying not to overreact but you know just call it bellicose rhetoric Is that really what it is? Before he answers that interesting word bellicose had you ever heard of this word Yeah, that's a very common word. I've never you know i think my entire life i've never heard someone use the word bellicose And it's an it's a nice and what does it? What does it mean bellicose blowhard? Actually, I got a different. I got warlike or hostile in manner or temperament oh

1:25:16 Yes, blowhard. Seems like a lot of people really treat North Korea like it's all rhetoric It's kind of a joke Like I said but then you're saying no it may not be a joke Well, it's not a joke because they have wanted these weapons They've wanted three-stage ballistic missiles They sell them to the world's dangerous actors like Iran so we know that there's a problem here Even if they don't use them themselves and also I think they actually can strike the US today preemptively They can take a Toyota pickup truck put a nuke in the back and they can park it in any city. And some people in Washington are concerned that the ambassador to the UN from North Korea could actually call the White House and say, look I've pre-positioned a bomb on the East Coast do you want to talk? They can do that! So we have to be concerned not only about their missiles but also about other ways they could sneak a device into the United States. Into Toyota pickup apparently

1:26:08 Toyota that's my question first thing that comes to mind why Toyota yeah, I'm not that was bothersome to me as well but it is kind of Toyota is kind of the the pickup of the terrorist crowd. I think was just a simply he got extra money... product placement! But if you look at the Arab Spring all the pick up is the choice, it's Al Qaeda's pickup. Right did you see that there was a web page Did you see that? You saw it, right. No no no what is it what does oh yeah there was a web page that accused the networks of using doing product placement because they showed these Toyota logos on all these trucks There were Toyotas in Libya There were Toyota's and Syria There are toyotas in Iraq And its always the backside of a truck with some dumb machine gun mounted on it

1:27:02 I can't even imagine working right. And this guy's driving these Toyotas around and it clearly said Toyota on the back, and now we have the guy that has triggered this whole thing. Now we have THIS idiot mentioning TOYOTA again! So TOYOTA is paying for this there is no doubt about it now. Okay so we'll know...so TOYOTA clearly is sponsoring Al Qaeda? aiding and comfort but you know we'll know that it's for real when we've got al-qaeda driving around in the Prius then we'll know that there's really something going on yes and it could happen family guy I need to charge

CHAPTER 22 / 39 Discussion

Hugo Chavez, Cancer Conspiracy and US Relations

Following the death of Hugo Chavez, the hosts discuss theories regarding his claim that the United States "infected" him with cancer. John C. Dvorak argues that Chavez likely had a secret pragmatic relationship with the U.S. involving oil exports, despite his public anti-American rhetoric. They explore the idea that Chavez's theatrical hostility served as political cover for both nations.

hugo chavez· venezuela· cancer· oil· geopolitics

1:27:40 Anyway, so here's my theory. I had a theory on Dennis Rodman and it just hit me! Oh my god of course... All the media was like so angry and why is no one taking him serious? You know, they didn't do crap with Eric Schmidt we have to reiterate that Yes, Eric Schmidt goes over. There's a cakewalk mm-hmm so Now of course we know Donald Trump was involved for the simple reason that you know he had to you know promote Celebrity Apprentice which Dennis Rodman is on but then all of a sudden I'm like oh my god Dennis Rodman was given the cancer virus to go shoot up Kim Jong Un and

1:28:25 You know, this is what Hugo... What Chavez said. It's like America gave me cancer and wouldn't it make so much sense for... Okay a couple of things why I'm not buying this that's not our style A And Kim Jong Un, I do not believe it was us. I think that Kim Jon Un or I'm sorry Cesar Chavez, Victor Chavez whatever his name is Hugo Hugo Hugo the Chavez Pete Chavez That's bogus because all along I believed the following actually happened You know The Economic Hitman book talks about this They tried to kill him Yeah with exploding cigars That's our style?

1:29:08 Well, that used to be nowadays. It's we just drone him but anyway so they tried to kill him and then he did And then he realized that the Americas wasn't as Frank as it wasn't going along with the program and then they tried To kill him again I think in a plane of our way of doing it is a light plane crash Yeah, yes plane true true true you get the plane crashes and your dead and this easy and nobody can just you can't do anything I think somebody else tried to or did kill Chavez. I don't think it was us because i think he made a deal eventually made a deal with us and the deal would have gone like this and the reason I suggest that is because his, the output of Venezuela's oil production is 1.7 million barrels a day we get a million of it right plus and we also have the Sitco gas station operation which is all owned by the Venezuelans and they give away all kinds of stuff they're very generous if you during there was a couple

1:30:00 Cold waves that took place in the East Coast they were given fuel oil away, and there And I think it went like this It was like look we're gonna do a deal you can get the oil and you can have a piece of the action take This oil and and will be good to go with Dole out the rest of it to our friends also gave us a conduit into Cuba because he was helping Cuba when the Russians weren't and I think you know There's some sympathy toward the Cubans and so they let Chavez deal with that but but the cover had to be He hates us And this was kind of revealed by a book that came out recently called Living with the UN where all these countries line up against us in the General Assembly but then when it comes to the way we really operate behind-the-scenes, is completely different relationship. Very interesting. What is the name of this book? Living with the UN and I have a couple clips from this guy actually from that book

CHAPTER 23 / 39 Discussion

Hugo Chavez, 9/11 and Moon Landing Skepticism

An interview clip describes Hugo Chavez's conspiratorial beliefs, including his skepticism regarding the Apollo 11 moon landing and the official narrative of the September 11 attacks. The hosts discuss Chavez's charismatic personality and his tendency to view American media culture as a tool for global deception.

hugo chavez· moon landing· 9/11· conspiracy theories· simon bolivar

1:30:52 Oh, and that's what kind of reminded me of this but anyway So I think that I don't think so. I don't think it was somebody else and I would either suspect the Russians because he reneged on some sort Of a deal or it could have been some South American operation It just do not buy that And I can't see Dennis Rodman even getting into the country without being you know kind of strip searched so no yeah That's okay well. Well. It was just came to me in a dream But I do have an interesting clip about Chavez from a guy who interviewed him. He was doing a book on him, one of those New York Times duties...I forget his name and I'm really sad now because this guy was totally my kind of guy. ...to not like the Monroe Doctrine and we discussed that

1:31:43 to think he was the you know the ghost of Simone Bolivar lived in him but he didn't believe, he told me that Americans went to the moon. That that was staged in Hollywood. He seemed to me to even question 9-11 and the towers being hit so I came across where he was very charismatic um and liked in Venezuela by the poor people but he was anti-American had too much of a conspiratorial bent for me to admire. When you say he was raising questions about 9-11 and the destruction of the World Trade Center by those planes, what was he saying? That that was just some sort of conspiracy made up by the US? Was that what he believed?

1:32:28 Yes, and that you know somehow that the United States was up to shenanigans and used our media culture to pull big ones on the world community. and i grew up in ohio when you are strong with my hero no sort of a little surprise to hear him go on at some length about uh... uh... apollo eleven just being the first it made me realize we could take it too seriously on the other hand um... i think our government's done the right thing week at trade relations he could fly used into caracas

1:33:05 It's an important country. He did some good things in that country, but we don't need an embassy or ambassador there We just didn't have the right relationship with him I would also tell you what the most interesting thing is he wrote regular letters to Castro and they would deliver them by whatever so I thought it said that kind of confirms What you're saying is a look here's what I'll do I'll you can fly direct from Houston of course in your oil capital of the United States of Gitmo nation to Caracas But then I'll go all crazy on the moon landing shit like that curry dude. It's a curry, dude Yeah, no. I mean, I think there was something Eventually it will be turned out that he's like using our pocket oh

CHAPTER 24 / 39 Discussion

Moon Express, Lunar Mining and Platinum Reserves

The hosts discuss "Moon Express," a private company aiming to land a robot on the moon to mine precious metals like platinum and titanium. They express skepticism about why lunar landing technology is being treated as a new challenge 40 years after the Apollo missions. The segment highlights the potential for vast mineral wealth on the lunar surface compared to Earth's reserves.

moon express· lunar mining· platinum· nasa· xprize

1:33:50 I mean, you know the deal was think about it from his perspective. They try to kill you because you weren't sincere and you thought that you were going along with some crazy program where some guy shows up in your office and this is outlined in Economic Hitman book by John Perkins. And then he says, shit this terrible these guys are serious they're trying to kill me! Then don't get killed they screw it up. Then they tried to kill you again At that point I think you're gonna say, look okay... Alright already! Alright what do you want me to do? Just tell me what do you want me to do? I'll do it but i have to have this cover because, I've already I'm gonna look like a douche that my own people are gonna kill Me if they've if You know This is discovered or fight all of A sudden knuckle under hey so this moon thing just for a second did you hear about this moon mining race That's on now that google Is an x prize but i think google is offering like 23 million dollars For the purse person who can mine The Moon Have you have you i mean The things coming To light here

1:34:49 I don't under...I'm really confused. Listen a bit of this and you help me understand There's no such thing as the final frontier in Silicon Valley, and there is lot of big thinking Our friends at NASA have given us clearance to show you the hover test facility and our lander test vehicle Bob Richards wants to mine the moon This is BBC by the way So the focus of engineering effort at Moon Express is of course the lander itself And this is the prototype Moon Express is trying to make money out of landing on the moon. There's 30 million dollars in XPRIZE money to land on the surface, deploy a robot and send back pictures by 2015 So let's stop there How hard can this be? Wait a minute wait a minute Food Express is that the company? No Moon, Moon Oh Moon I said food I'm thinking what are they going to do But I don't understand The original walk on the moon, moon landing was in 1960

1:35:48 69. And we had, you know... We had nothing. Even the space shuttle only had 64 kilobytes of RAM I know because i spoke to a couple astronauts It's like, you know this can't be hard This can't be like 2000... Why can we do this now? This shouldn't be so hard! We're talking about technology from 1969 How hard could this be?! We landed dudes on the moon Now he is trying to land a little robot and this is difficult!? This where testing takes place We've got a little, like robot, like a Zumba falling into a trampoline or something. The vehicle needs to learn how to land itself! There's too much of a delay to control it from Earth... What do you mean? How hard can this be?! This is easy we did this 30 years ago! 40! We controlled the little robot on Mars... 40! How hard can this be!? But success can bring great riches

1:36:45 Now listen to this. The most important thing about the moon is probably the stuff we haven't even discovered yet, but what we do know is that there could be more platinum group metals on the surface of the moon What? There's platinum on the Moon?! Why are we all over... No it's just worthless Moon dust! No no wait Then all of the reserves of Earth We know that there's water in the moon There's water on the moon!? What is this? What is going on why is-what is the BBC trying to confuse me Yeah well thats goes without saying This is platinum. There's more platinum on the moon than all reserves on earth and NASA has given this guy permission to use their hangar to test his Moon lander which is so complicated that something we've had the technology for 40 years he it's oh I don't know if I can do it here's an article that goes back to October 21st 2011 self-made billionaire who wants to mine the moon

1:37:46 where on earth took the next natural is apparently this guy off Naveen Jain that guy Oh someone you know yeah anyway he already got 10 million bucks to deal with this but apparently there's 20 times more titanium and platinum than anywhere on earth says Tibby Pulu of ZME science Is this based on what they found in those rocks, the few rocks they brought back or what? I don't know but how come... Was it done on a spectre? Could they have some telescope that can figure out what the composition of the planet is under the moon. But what are we doing wasting our time on Mars?! We should be on the Moon! Mining it. Mining it!! Mining for bitcoins on the moon!!! And while you... Beautiful segue I might add. Thank you thank you may I lay down my theory first before you come up with your son's theory

CHAPTER 25 / 39 Discussion

Bitcoin, Cryptocurrency and Libertarian Dreams

The hosts examine the rising popularity of Bitcoin, featuring a passionate pitch from Roger Ver of BitcoinStore.com. Ver describes Bitcoin as a way to strip governments of their control over the money supply and prevent the funding of wars. The hosts compare the fervor of the Bitcoin community to multi-level marketing schemes while acknowledging the appeal of a decentralized currency.

bitcoin· cryptocurrency· roger ver· libertarianism· federal reserve

1:38:39 No, it's not my son's theory. Oh well he stumbled across it may I tell you what I've discovered from all my research? I'll tell you the basic and then I want to hear we're talking about Bitcoin give us a little background for the listeners who didn't listen to last three shows where We put bitcoins as a donation possibility and we killed it, like yesterday. A little background. So I think this is going to be the last time we need to speak about it. Bitcoin they call it a cypher currency, a cryptocurrency

1:39:20 And people are very, very passionate about how awesome this is because there's no central entity. There's no Federal Reserve. Oh Jesus Christ I have a... oh my god! Something just crashed. Can you still hear me? Yeah, you sound great. Okay something crashed hard but okay we're back So this is called the cryptocurrency. People are very, very passionate about it they're completely into it and I hereby vow to continue to refer you as the Bitcoin community

1:39:58 So the Bitcoin community really is just loving this alternative form of payment. It seems people who are primarily libertarians, who hate the Federal Reserve which I am one of...I'm not a libertarian per se but I hate everything about the Federal Reserve and all this stuff but we all know that. But people are just completely so passionate about it in fact i'm going to play you a little clip to lead into this This is the owner of the bitcoinstore.com Roger Ver Unfortunately, BitcoinStore.com doesn't have a lot of great products I'm interested in but here's his pitch and this is...I mean, I actually went out and tried to find some Herbal Life people because it sounds he sounds just like it! I couldn't really match it up so I decided he was just good enough by himself but listen to his pitch is mind-boggling It is you know it's like you remember when we had bread? And then we had sliced bread well this is it baby

1:40:55 I gotta stand up, because i'm just so excited about Bitcoin. I can't talk about it while sitting down. Come into this right there... Oh brother! Well I know what you mean. This guy already sounds like a scammer. Sick of the government? No wait hold on you got to listen to that hold on I gotta roll that back. It's like the calls we get from these guys these stock brokers hey I'm so excited about this stock. Do you buy stocks and bonds?! Hey do you buy stocks and bonds!? You want to get rich you wanna get rich beyond your wildest dreams leave your wife rich when you don't buy stocks and bonds. Like I've got a stock tip for you Like that? Horowitz can actually, I think almost do that voice. I actually stopped the guy once and then didn't get off the track too far but I had a guy... You know, I used to be on some list they finally took me off and I'd get these calls from these guys and they always had this weird sound. They talked in a certain kind of accent and I stopped one guy. Look, I'm not investing in anything he said but I want to ask you a couple questions. One guy in particular had this perfect voice for selling stocks

1:41:55 I just stopped him and started discussing the voice that he had. Horowitz confirmed this, he said that it's a combination of Boston accent and New York accent put together in some way where you sound credible for some unknown reason. He said it's the voice that works best! Hey, you want to buy stocks and bonds? I gotta tell ya. I wanna be rich beyond your wildest dreams How about that am I close? No you're not even close We have to get a copy of this voice and then maybe we can... We'll try it Emile But listen to this guy but listen what he starts off with I gotta stand up because i'm just so excited about Bitcoin I can't talk about it while sitting down It's almost the voice Now be quiet otherwise you gonna step on the important line Yeah I'm setting up

1:42:49 Anybody here that's sick of the government inflating the money supply to pay to kill people all around the world? Okay, so his pitch is... Is anybody here sick of the government inflating the money supply to kill people all around the world. This is his Bitcoin pitch Wow And it would have been better if he said kill brown people who live in sandy places But okay So I- It's appealing to me like YAH! Fuck yeah Stop using their money Use Bitcoin. The answer is here, we can put a stop to all of that You don't have to support them in any way Start using Bitcoin There are so many websites that accept Bitcoin now More and more coming online every day If you have business, you need to start accepting Bitcoin What Bitcoin allows every single person in this room And on the planet who has access to the internet You can have your own private bank account

1:43:39 It's called a Bitcoin account and it is impossible for the government to seize your account. It is mathematically impossible for anyone to block you from sending or receiving money with anyone else anywhere in the world, And if you are careful about how you use it, it can be done anonymously as well This totally strips governments control over the money supply way There is nothing they can do about it there is no way they can stop it The only way they could stop it would be to shut down the entire internet in the entire world and that's not going to happen. This is what every libertarian's absolute dream come true, it's here and its called Bitcoin we need to spread the word about it I'm glad you guys are here and were here today to answer your questions about it when your done learning about it tell your friends tell your family help them set up bitcoin wallets

1:44:27 Tell everybody that you know about Bitcoin. Anytime you need to buy something, ask the merchant if they'll allow you to pay in bitcoin and anytime you receive US dollars convert them into bitcoins then use them as bitcoins We need to spread this and the world is going be a much much better place because of it And it's not a question of If this is going to happen It's just a question of how soon its gonna happen and with your help we can make it happen sooner rather than later Unicorns and rainbows my friend Wow That's a great clip. I'm giving you Clip of the Day right there Oh well thank you, that is very kind of you. I will accept it because I happen to agree. So this guy he is on the scene He is now at the top of the Bitcoin community

CHAPTER 26 / 39 Discussion

Satoshi Nakamoto, Bitcoin Creator Mystery

The discussion turns to the mysterious identity of Satoshi Nakamoto, the pseudonymous creator of Bitcoin. Adam Curry posits that the creator's anonymity might be due to them being in jail, dead, or a Russian operative. They also question the "automatic transaction fees" built into the Bitcoin protocol and where that money actually goes.

satoshi nakamoto· bitcoin· anonymity· cryptography· wikipedia

1:45:11 because of his bitcoinstore.com which you know, I have just not been able to find... I desperately want to buy a lens for Miss Mickey for her camera no you can get it camera mount in the professional photography section so hard okay doesn't matter there's that's why i'm gonna give you Two things that are questionable, and then I'm gonna give you my theory. Oh by the way the government can most definitely Take your Bitcoin all they need to do is take the computer that has the Bitcoin wallet on it so it's not like You know like this is a completely secure so right in the government loves taking computers They love taking computers now

1:45:49 So the thing that bothers me, that everyone glosses over so easily is the creator whether it's a single person or a group of the Bitcoin. I'm just going to read from the bitcoin wiki which right on the Wikipedia page it says people who have written this are closely associated with it you have to question its authority but it's the book of knowledge So this, you know the anonymous hacker Satoshi Nakamoto was the pseudonymous person or group of people who designed and created the original Bitcoin protocol and launched the launch the bitcoin network. Beyond Bitcoin no other links to this identity has been found his involvement in the original Bitcoin protocol does not appear to extend past mid 2010." So everyone's very easy to just dismiss the magical superhero of the universe

1:46:50 of all libertarians who have been just waiting for this to happen, these superhero who said I'm going to create the answer to all problems in the world and i am going to remain anonymous. And... The reason why this person is not known to us is because it's actually at least three people two whom are currently in jail and one who was most likely dead. In the jail uh...I would have to say he's Russian Now I don't have any proof of this and people talk to me so just take that for what it is because the New York Times, everyone's trying to find the creator of Bitcoin and every single invention in the universe we have a guy to point too but this guy doesn't want to be known. Well it's because he's in jail or dead or all three... Or worse! ...or worse now if you have ever used the bitcoin

1:47:44 And this is, you can't find anything on the, there's a little piece on the Wikipedia page about the automatic built-in transaction fee. I want to know more about where this fee goes so it's automatically set to 0.01 Bitcoin which at today's price is almost half a buck for a transaction fee and where does this go? Well, you know do you really need to put it in well I know i put my transaction fee which by default in the client is set up with the number. I set it to zero zero zero zero zero my transaction went through so apparently you don't need it and they're making up some story that well it goes to the miners or you know uh it has to appear somewhere if you don't do it then your system

CHAPTER 27 / 39 Discussion

Bitcoin Mining, Rainbow Table Hacking Theory

Adam Curry presents a theory that Bitcoin mining is actually a psychological trick to build a massive "rainbow table" for cracking high-level encryption. He suggests that the collective computing power of the Bitcoin network is being used to solve an unknown algorithm that could eventually be used to hack nuclear codes or global financial systems.

bitcoin mining· rainbow table· cryptography· botnets· cybersecurity

1:48:28 This is not how a peer-to-peer system works. If it's peer to peer, right? Then it should work peer to peer you're equal. Peer to peer does not mean I've got to pay you something to do something that's not a peer-to-peer system so if questions about that but doesn't have the most important thing the most important thing comes back to this mining So we have in the Bitcoin community, we have miners and these miners are how bitcoins are created. And a bitcoin is really nothing more than a number of big long number that has been valid on the network it's an answer to question essentially So there's this algorithm that has to be processed and people are setting up huge botnets. There's, you can even buy special computers with processors that are tuned specifically to mine bitcoins because the way this thing is set up with the more Bitcoins or answers are created, the harder it gets, the harder the algorithm gets therefore the longer it is to come up with the so-called Bitcoins

1:49:29 Look at this from a different perspective. We have now, uh...a huge community I'm gonna refer to you as a community people creating these answers the answer to this algorithm And the questions get harder, so it takes longer to create the answers. Now the answer to you is a Bitcoin which you apparently can use to transact and that is all fine and that all works but what does this algorithm really? If you had the skill to psychologically trick people into using massive, massive computing resources literally building data centers

1:50:07 supercomputers doing with peer parallel processing to create this huge entity of computing power that is coming up with the answers to these questions, an algorithm which is unknown. We do not know anything about the algorithm What are you really doing? Are these bitcoins or are all of these strings, these answers...are they part of a giant rainbow table You know what a rainbow table is, John? Yeah I do. Keep going this is interesting So the rainbow table... so essentially if you want to crack the encryption for nuclear codes or Visa or MasterCard codes

1:50:52 You could put supercomputers on it and process for a hundred years or you the rainbow table Essentially, you're creating all the answers possible. So if you have an 8-bit problem there's 256 answers you have this massive Bitcoin Algorithm which no we don't really know what it is. Your creating a table of trillions maybe quad I don't know how many, i'm not a mathematician. I am very unskilled at this but i am trying to explain as best as possible you come up with a machine where you only have to put the question and code in and it will pop out because the answer has already been discovered and this computing power no one is questioning what this really is yes its bitcoin

1:51:35 But there is some real thinking out there that this is creating a massive rainbow table which can be used to hack something really, really huge and really big and really important. At the same time... The community gets their Bitcoin, you get to trade and do everything. Now I will not participate of course i'll have a couple of Bitcoins come in handy but the universe of this money is so small it's easy to manipulate uh... So I really don't think it's not FDIC insured there are a whole bunch of reasons why you don't want to put all your eggs into this basket. We can't live on donations through it because you could have donations and then the next day there could be, like someone stole 12000 bitcoins nothing really happens something big could happen the universe of bitcoin is too small so it's easy to manipulate we could lose money that we actually need So we can't live on it It will work perfectly for what people think its intended for but my belief

1:52:35 is that there are some... So you think it's part of a giant international scheme to crack passwords? Yes. This is very similar to the idea where they have these banks of computer guys somewhere in India who all they do is look at CAPTCHAs and they they just type in the captions into these, and would appear to be anonymous sites but in fact it is creating a bot army that can infect all kinds of different sites for spamming or for whatever. I might even assume there's some spamming aspect to this? Could be Well that's an interesting theory because that was not what JC's idea was And of course I didn't even go

CHAPTER 28 / 39 Discussion

Bitcoin, The Beanie Babies of Currency

John C. Dvorak famously labels Bitcoin as the "Beanie Babies of currency," predicting it is a precursor to a major market crash. He compares the current cryptocurrency speculation to the Beanie Baby craze of the late 1990s, which served as a coincident index for the dot-com bubble. The hosts argue that Bitcoin has no intrinsic value and relies purely on speculative mania.

bitcoin· beanie babies· economic bubble· market crash· speculation

1:53:24 I know, you just...I'm just entertaining myself here. You are! But JC had an interesting thing which you actually brought up on the last show when we talked about bitcoins and the fact that there's no such thing as anonymous activity in the bitcoin community He says that the whole thing is to track because one of the biggest Bitcoin users even though they try to make it sound so he can use bitcoins and your out of the system He says this is the way for the government to track anyone who buys illegal drugs from that one drug site that literally sells pot to people over the internet using Bitcoin technology. Well, check it out! The government is going to do nothing about... and by the way its bitcoin not S-bitcoin you know? That's like fruit

1:54:14 Yeah, again. I don't care. I know you call it Fred okay So the Bitcoin community is actually doing the government's work because you know that new massive data center They're setting up in Utah or whatever it is yeah You do not gonna didn't have to turn it on all they gotta Do is just hook up to the bitcoin and let everyone else do the work? Yeah, that's pretty much Thank you. Thank you. You do all the work Well, my concept is different. I'm thinking about this as something else because I'm always looking... it's a stock market related item and I'm always looking for some screwball thing that makes zero sense that starts to creep into the public domain even though this hasn't gotten to the point where its the same as what happened in the late 90s and my coinage for what I think this

1:55:02 Personally, I think Bitcoin is the Beanie Babies of currency. That is the opening of the show! Let me just write down the... Yes! I am with you John And if you remember that era, and I do because I always had the stupid look on my face. It's like what are you talking about? People would talk about beanie babies as some sort of weird investment and there was even a channel on the television, on the cable that was dedicated to auctioning off all the rare beanie babies that came in went. An it was unbelievable to me that people bought into this and of course that market collapsed along with the stock market

1:55:42 And I thought it was a precursor. I think the Bitcoin may be a precursor to the crash, which is coming. Wow! Wow wow wow wow! Oh you just got me with that The Oracle Speaks? And I was always looking for something wacky like Beanie Babies and I just could not find it. And then when you started bringing up Bitcoin, it dawned on me that that's what is! Because there's always something that makes no sense These things aren't gold or platinum There are no intrinsic value If people don't like specie They don't like the dollar bill but they like this? Come on

1:56:24 How we like it a dollar bill though? I'm gonna show my support by donating to no agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that Oh, yeah, they'd be fab It's the Beanie Babies! What was it what was the quote again? It's The Beanie Babies of... Currency It's the beanie babies of currency. But so the beanie babies that did kind of proceed, the bubble popping didn't it? Yeah you're right at some point people get a little nutty when they got things are going too well is there a Wikipedia page that probably someone said on Beanie Babies I'm sure there is. Beanie Babies caused the dot com crash. Well it never caused it was just like a coincident index

1:57:09 The Beanie Babies didn't cause it. The Beanie Babies were a function of it, they were part of the whole thing falling apart Anyway, let's thank a few people who helped us because we did get a big response and we're just gonna name names and tell amounts And we'll mention the couple of things that this yet something good to say but we got Richard Haskins at the top Of the list from Stephen City Virginia with 156 56 which apparently is half a cent shy of half a 313 13 Now is it 156 57 Anonymous in St. Petersburg Florida 139 38 which is 69 69 times 2 which really doesn't count for the 69 thing Mark Fusco and our new night coming up San Antonio Texas 133 70 and which is elite of course what's elite as an elite lead

CHAPTER 29 / 39 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony, Listener Support and Tax Refunds

The hosts continue reading listener donations, noting a surge in support from new donors and international listeners in Australia, Canada, and Romania. They discuss the "Value for Value" model again, encouraging listeners to use their tax refunds to support the show. Adam Curry reiterates that he wants to avoid "meltdowns" by maintaining a steady stream of small, regular contributions.

donations· knighthood· tax refund· value for value· podcasting

1:58:03 Oh, Leet. I saw this note and was wondering what he's talking about? Yeah it's Leet! He's Leet! He's Leet! Not in the Bitcoin community... He seems to know something about food and wine because he knows the foie gras sauternes combination which i think is nice so we'll have you got to eat with him he's just up there in San Antone Duane Byblo in Calgary where all the money is in Alberta 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 Patrick Turner Austin Texas 111.11 Older Hanson Copenhagen 11033 and this is completing his knighthood. We have a lot of knights coming in Hey, someone sent me a stinky brown cheese from that's from Denmark I think the brown stinky cheese? I don't know And I can't remember who sent it but it arrived at the house and there was a note in it That said please provide a new credit card number because this one This one didn't work so they sent the cheese But you didn't pay for it

1:59:05 Oh, well the cheese sender will know who he is or she. Sir Oscar Nadal in Tijuana Baja California 10101 we have him on the list for the birthday call out Jay Zuckel in Los Angeles California 100 new donor A new donor, he also said he was on jury duty recently and the prosecuting attorney asked if anybody in the jury pool had any doubts that a man walked on the moon. A few people raised their hands and they were shown the door! Wait a minute this is now a jury pool question? That's great well I mean you know if I have to do jury duty and they ask that I'm not raising my hand. I want see if I can get away with it

1:59:50 Well, of course you can get away with that. We're the only people who raised their hands so they could get thrown off! It's probably... You don't know what they're thinking. In fact half of the people if it was in Los Angeles? They don't even know the moon thing anything! They don't know anything except Britney Spears birthday date Charles Kohler in Forestville, New South Wales Australia $100 Tristan McCann in South Berwick Maine 1500 James Spitzer sir James Spitzer to you Jamaica Plain Massachusetts and he specifically says no comment which is a comment Michael bowling or bowling are bowling. It's bowling nobody uses bowling could be bowling Santa Barbara 100 in the morning

2:00:29 He calls it the infrared slave monitoring something but I don't know what he's talking about. David Lane in Manassas, Virginia KG4GIY73 Anonymous in Anchorage Alaska 100 Ralph Dedal in Albuquerque 100 New donors a lot of new donors which is really nice to see yeah Which is what we're trying to get these guys back on board It was success He's also going to subscribe to the $10 a month thing. Nice! Amarai Alexandru Mihai in Romania, he said an interesting thing...he says this is the country where not long ago we had a referendum to dismiss our cross-eyed drunk president Do you know anything about this guy? The cross eyed drunk president of Romania?! Yeah

2:01:29 Anyway, he'd like a karma for his family. No I'll give him that but that's kind of interesting we got to figure out Simon Marciniac Poland nine nine nine nine I could probably got it butchered his name sorry send a whatever James Rockle in Waterloo Ontario again 9999 Hello? I'm not going to do it every single time. Okay, well I just said...I don't know Can you give him a de-douching? Yes He's a noob You've been de-douched William Ashby in Mobile Alabama That'll get your email Mobile Mobile At $99.99 And he said the donation was for calling out Rand Paul for grandstanding Huh

2:02:26 Right. Brian Brown in Orange, California... Hold on hold on hold on hold on! He said all the Rand Paul boosters are so desperate for a liberty-minded politician linked to Papa Ron they're becoming useful idiots to the establishment because Rand is willing to play their game Thank you. Thank you that was my point exactly That's a position that I think is valid Brian Brown and Orange California 9669 Another new donor Scott Thompson in North Tonawanda. I love the name of that town, New York 8639 no root no idea why we have that number

2:03:05 8639. It is another uninteresting number. PayPal money got back from returning the new SimCity release after realizing it was DRM filled unpolished time sync of a game, which relies on the cloud for everything be forewarned! Anyway that game hit the market with a tremendous backlash Capital Idea Radio Cincinnati Ohio 8334 Best message ever. Dear John and Adam, you can blow me. How's that for a short message? Yes! That's how we like to roll people Blow yourself Benjamin Whitkers in Ames Iowa New donor 80...40 Took it out of his raise that he just got Thank you David McNell in Winfield Illinois 7770 And David McNell rhymes with bell Okay I got that right

2:04:05 Frank Pugh in Tallahassee, Florida 75 bucks with the thanks for everything. PS Ian Nacogdoches Nachitoshes Nachitochess It's not Nacogdoshes that's in Texas I believe it's Louisiana this place 73-73 73 is to you my friend? 73 yeah where's his he doesn't have a well wouldn't because he wants to be anonymous so won't give us his call sign John Hamlin Raleigh North Carolina 7007 um... tyler foxer tyler fox and flagstaff seventy michael fits patrick east is slip new york seventy-two since it was with the seventies interesting i have no idea this just came up out of the blue there's no explanation by any of these people uh... talent this is a proud night sir brian barrow in wooden bassett my favorite and that would be

2:05:05 69, 69 and that begins the segment. Marco Strauss in Ithaca another new donor. Sir Thomas in Virginia Beach along with St. Nicole Scott Sanstad in Orangevale, California. Richard Chow God knows where Tanya Wyman Dame Tanya our friend in New York Thomas Lees in London William Bagdon in Holland Pennsylvania I'd like to say Dame Tanya has done something we encourage she actually gave an advance on her refund for her taxes

2:05:52 So that's, she is kind of reminding us I think subtly that this is a good way when you're looking for a little extra change to support the value that you get from the program. That you might have that coming up from your tax refund. Narada Staple in Reservoir, is that right Victoria? Apparently he's coming from Perth on road trip to Seattle LA. Okay, Ben Hink in Orland Park Illinois Tristan Mason in Auckland. We have all Australians coming in just start listening I'm gonna bring the antenna up and start listening Australia this week. Yeah turn it a little bit south Kirk Wick right Lincoln California George Vanderhorse Black Knight George. Ah Black Knight George. The Knights are always there. In Pennsylvania Scott Ballard in London

2:06:44 Kevin Webb in Texas, Sir Kevin to you. Sir Stephen Vanderhoff in North Carolina Michael Bradbury in Ohio and Joel Blazek in parts unknown lot of 60 G's this is I believe that may have set the record which was 22 Chris Bergeron in Denver Patrick Vaughan in Traverse City Which is where JC and his fiance were just last week sir Patrick Vaughan in Traverse City? Which is a nice little place by the way Roozbeth Ibadie in Toronto Robert Gold, Sir Robert Gold in Toronto Oops sorry he's a 66-66 so that closes out the segment 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 yeah there is going to be alot I'll count them later 69! 69 dudes! Tight. Sir Robert Gold in Toronto 66-66

2:07:41 uh... steeped in superstition he says brett raftus in edmonton another new a lot of a lot of new canadian donors to which is nice to see yes sixty five ninety was for the time they get real news on the united states as for sure bunches bullcrap in this year's specialist cnn world dan mccormick and westfield indiana sixty thirty three He wants to plug Mondurno.com, M-O-N-D-E-R-N-O reviews and discusses guns. Nice! Hey remember a gun reviewer? Ellen Barbour in Australia John Groomling in Aspen Colorado Kevin Ayers in Broomfield Colorado 5555 and 5510 also double nickels on the dime from Robert Kane in Alabama

2:08:30 Joseph McLeod in Winnipeg, double nickels on the dime. Another Canadian loves the show oh by the way Robert Kane N4XT73 You know what I like about Joseph McLeod who's a new donor he says makes my walks and commutes much more enjoyable during the long winters in the frozen north Just imagine being up there It is in Manitoba Yes That's cold Aaron von meter and wasila was sila art alaska. That's you know where it's actually this is actually a donation from From the wassaila I blew at Sarah Palin

2:09:09 Double niggles on the dime is not. Which I don't... Never mind, she blew the joke. Yeah it really sucked He says he can't afford to donate He's broke and unemployed And he needs a cracked tooth pulled But he's not gonna put up with that you know being part of the community so he donated double niggles on the dime Chris Witten in Millbro Virginia 55 bucks It'd be his last jingle request and unfortunately its just going to be karma we're gonna do at the end Lee Kenyon in Plainfield New Jersey 5490 to William Martins and Vinla Vineland by the way that number 5492 is 333 to the power of 333. Three dot three three times or two the power of three dot three three is 5492 I'm always interested in the numbers why people do that not like this interesting one Wilhelm Martin says quit your whining and keep the three-hour shows

2:10:06 Eric Schmidt. Eric Schmidt from, oh he's from Leipzig. He is not our Eric Schmidt. Oh damn! This is Eric Schmidt in Deutschland I'm just gonna say it's Eric Schmidt from Google What a... these are cheap bastard Yeah really double with 5150 Eric Schmidt Cheap bastard Eric But no this the other Schmidt there's one with a K Anonymous in Fitchburg Wisconsin 5123 and finally Daniel Smith In Christchurch doubled $50.10 Cady McKernan, Roanoke Virginia 50 everyone's 50 Jason Fortune Geneva Illinois Paul Vela Sir Paul Vela in Buckinghamshire and Milton Keynes Nicholas Michelli and Schenectady another fine place Eric Wilka sir Eric in Rushaville Indiana sir Howard Gutnicht in Seattle Washington comments on the beer sometime by email

2:11:03 Paul Pratley in French's Forest, New South Wales and finally Sir Joe Collins 50 bucks along with Felix Potthast in Sweden I believe or no Gettemo Nation sauerkraut he has got to be Germany Deutschland. He calls it Gettemo Nation sauerkraut later on. It is Guttingen, Guttingen I think it is. Or is it Gutening? Is it Guttening? I don't know its got a little symbol here for three of the letters William Dolgus in Bristolville Ohio It says keep up the good work and scrolling down we got Robert Kruger and Elise Oviejo, Johannes something blocked out. He's in Sweden I believe Why can't we get PayPal to give us the name so that we can freaking read them? Tom Kwist. It's probably Turnquist. Turnquist. Turnquist. Yeah

2:12:01 Jeremy Ayers, I know really was it that hard? It's called Omnicode. Elon Musk can build a battery car and can put rockets in space but we can't read a Scandinavian name through his old company PayPal seriously he hates Scandinavians that must be true Jeremy Ayers in Las Cruces New Mexico and Aaron Huber Don't know and finally Christopher. It's not Christopher walkers in parts unknown well, let's put tech up tech pet talk teakva is it Israel? What was that Pet tactic va I have a feeling winning it in the book of knowledge yeah Israel ha looks nice there by the way

2:12:58 Yeah, it's in Israel. It is also known as M Hamoshavot mother of the Moshevat Oh if you just said M Hamoshavot I would have known yeah this right dead center of the country Wow okay so in addition to that I would personally like to thank, and we're gonna give out. Well first of all for all of these producers as you know over $50 we mentioned your name so if you want to be anonymous you really have to state it specifically or donate under 50. We highly appreciate you because a lot of your new stepping up deducing yourselves giving us the value for value this is exactly what makes me feel like we have a model that'll work

2:13:44 So everyone who we've mentioned so far, please bend over. Here comes a karma for you. You've got karma. Why do they have to bend over? Because the karma can get in easier And everyone else and... It's an enema karma? Is that what you're doing? Everyone else who is under $50 either for financial reasons or reasons of anonymity, thank you. I think I answered everybody who sent me email saying I'm signing up for a subscription four dollars five dollars eleven eleven per month or even at one time

2:14:25 Thank you. That's all we've ever asked for is, you know even if that is the... If we can get another percent of people to do that boy when we then we can spend more time on deconstructing media and hitting people in the mouth instead of having complete meltdowns which may be very entertaining to you John but it I lose weight when that happens to me. I lose actual weight. Maybe I should melt down I could lose some weight Well, it's just and I don't want to do it anymore. You know? It's like...I can't and it's not like I'm doing on purpose but just go crazy because what am I doing? I figured there was only twice a year. No that's not we're not gonna do this We're not going to melt down. Happens again in August when things crap out So if you new to the program or have not understood how it works we have no commercials on this show And we cannot have them because then we could never discuss the topics that we discussed

CHAPTER 30 / 39 Discussion

Adam Kokesh, Bitcoin and Gold Sponsorship

Adam Curry critiques a video by activist Adam Kokesh, noting the conflict of interest when a host is sponsored by a gold company while trying to promote Bitcoin. Curry uses this as an example of why the No Agenda show refuses traditional advertising, as it forces hosts to filter their opinions to satisfy sponsors.

adam kokesh· bitcoin· gold· sponsorship· liberty movement

2:15:22 because advertisers, they're always not only do they want to control their message that you're communicating. You know and by the way I saw Adam versus the man Adam Kokesh You know him? No. Yeah, he's a very popular guy in the Liberty movement. Oh yeah I know him. So first of all it seems like does he get stoned before he does his show because you look really really wasted. He was at South by Southwest. No no no! I saw video of him talking about funny enough ranting about Bitcoin and how awesome it is but

2:16:01 But it was so funny. He said it's awesome? Yeah, oh yeah! But what was so funny is because he had to... but then also had to say, but you know gold is also great because one of his main sponsors is like a gold and silver company Oh right, he can't go on and on about Bitcoin No, so he had to keep saying, you know your bitcoin is fantastic It's awesome, but you should get some gold It was like, dude don't you understand that this is exactly the problem. This is exactly the problem! He's your compromise. So he was already filtering and he was stoned I think because it was having trouble communicating the ideas, but that's okay because yeah I think I've done this show stoned more than not. Yeah well you're at the point now... No we're getting over to tipping point. We are at the tipping point yeah cause you have been sober for a sober I hate that. You know I have been sober since such who cares?

2:16:57 And the other you know another term I put in the red book. I got to put it out there hate this term baby bump oh Man, oh yes No That's and that is but interesting why are you really? I felt an emotional thing there with these sober term what sir what's going on with that Nothing, it just bugs me. I mean it's like... It's like..I drink wine with my meals and I've had people who are like, well I'm sober since...as if they're superior to someone who makes wine as part of their daily habit because its some good way to digest food and probably good for the heart but this sober sense is like, I don't care you're having a great time being sober why are you bragging about? Just enjoy it! Do you like being sober? Great

2:17:47 Wow, who was it that did that? That pissed you off to no end. I need to know this. He pissed me off a number of times there were two incidences that were particularly annoying but i won't go into them and did you kick him out of your house they weren't in the house thank god did you leave the restaurant yeah so when we saw now i just haven't as natural and i smoked i smoked a bowl of weed on my birthday but i was it was disgusting This week? No, when I... my birthday. Remember that? Do you remember when Mickey and I woke up in someone else's house? Didn't I tell you that? Didn't I tell this story? Is this a new story? Yes! When it was my birthday last past September and Mickey said... Come on, I know it didn't... It wasn't the same bed though right? Yeah no we were... Just by yourselves it wasn't like a group Well so we uh... I can't believe I didn't tell you this story

CHAPTER 31 / 39 Discussion

No Agenda Knighthood, New Knights Inducted

The hosts conduct a formal knighting ceremony for several high-tier donors, including Robert Frapples, Joseph Ransom, and "Mr. Oil." The segment features the traditional "Hookers and Blow" music and the granting of titles within the No Agenda community. They also acknowledge birthdays for listeners and their family members.

knighthood· no agenda· ceremony· robert frapples· mr oil

2:18:44 This is not okay. So yeah, but obviously this is something I would have remembered Okay, so you want to hear the story briefly? Yeah well if you let's want to close out the segment Let's close out the segment I got other stuff to talk about all right But that story first then I have a story that relates to advertising a little bit Well we do we have birthdays and nights or what do you want to do? Let's do the birthdays and nice And then you tell me the story about you being in the bed with all these people slash It's a birthday, birthday! Hey hey. On No Virgin... Alright well we've got some shoutouts to the following people Sir Oscar Nadel celebrates today along with Narada Staple known of Narada Michael Staple fame Simon Bennett celebrates tomorrow Chris Whitten says happy birthday to his son Gunner turning three

2:19:33 Hey kid you were embarrassed now if you listen to this when your 15 your dad taped it for him and Katie McKiernan says happy birthday to her husband. He turns 45 on the 13th Happy birthday from your buddies here at the best podcast in the universe And we have a nice list of People how does he saber today? You have the Sabre? Careful with that thing is kind of sharp Let me get mine here for a second. So, the list is longer than normal so I want to give you the names first and then we'll do the knighting because quite honestly the whole knighting music isn't long enough. Today we are congratulating and welcoming to the table that is round where all of the Noah-Gen, the knights sit, the following people Robert Frapples

2:20:26 Joseph Ransom. Now we have Rick, did Rick have a last name? Or was it just an anonymous he wanted to be known as Rick? Just Sir Rick is what he'll be? I'm looking now Yeah okay...I think that's what it was Mark Fusco Ulrich Hansen and Fusco by the way Fusco thank you Ulrich Hansen who will be I guess the Scandinavian knight And Sir Gene Naftuliev who has now completed three rounds of knighthoods, has requested that we knight Mr. Oil on his behalf and mention that this is not only for all he does on keeping the show running on the back end but also for his exciting life change. Mr. Oils become Mrs. Oil?

2:21:25 All right, gentlemen. Step forward as I am very proud to welcome you to the round table of the Noah's and the Knights so I hereby pronounce these Sir Joseph, Sir Rick, Sir Mark, Sir Ulrich and Sir Mr. Oil as knights of the Noah Gender Roundtable! Gentlemen please come on over for you! Hookers & Blow, Rent Boys & Chardonnay Hot Pants & Booze, Wenches & Beer, Rubinettes, Woman or Rose, Geishas & Sake Vodka & Vanilla, Bong Hits & Bourbon Sparkling Cider & Escorts and Mutton & Mead And maybe some mac n' cheese with some people in there if you're lucky So thank you all very much. Great to have you as Noah Agenda Knights, You can see all the pins at noahagendanation.com These are people who really believe in what we're doing or supporting it and get the value they enjoy what We do and we enjoy you supporting us doing it And thank you again and and all of the current knights look forward to new levels of royalty To which you can climb so were excited about that

CHAPTER 32 / 39 Discussion

Adam Curry, Birthday Mansion Story

Adam Curry shares a story about a wild birthday celebration in Austin where he was taken out in a limo by "models and extravagant gay guys." He recounts waking up in a mansion the next morning with no memory of how he got there, suspecting he may have been "roofied" or simply overwhelmed by the festivities.

adam curry· birthday· austin· mansion· social anecdote

2:22:24 Alright, you were gonna say something about donations. No no we're gonna go back to the story now So you're in somebody's house was this during a tour? No! This is in Texas?! Yes Oh home of the swingers Were they swingers and they were gonna try to talk I had a friend from high school that ran off You have told us this story Okay, I won't tell it again then but he became a swinger that's and so every time I hear a story about you know somebody showing I Come on over to the house. Hey are you doing? Hey your wife is pretty And then they get you apart and they both throw a sales pitch on ya To get you to make out with him and then your swingers hey finally got Adam. He says swing I Know your buddy came over and then you're having of wine. He says hey, I'm a swinger and you like hey get the fuck out

2:23:19 You told us the whole story about how his wife, actually she went first. I remember the story but this has nothing to do with our story. Okay go on! Really? It's not that interesting Well it sounded interesting you woke up in a strange bed In a mansion In a mansion no less. So I'll give you what I remember, what I remember is... Okay let me get this so let me say what the story probably is You went to somebody's house No! No! No! I said look we got a bedroom here No! No! No! NO! You're wrong. It was my birthday and Miss Mickey said What do you want to do? And I said I wanna go out dancing with you because we never go dancing

2:24:04 You know, do like a club or something. Like you know let's go crazy! Anyone who gets video of this dancing episode... Please send it to me I'll post it And so then she's like, oh well I'll arrange something. So the arrangement turned out to be first of all I got kind of hijacked there was a stretch limo which i hate but you know stretch limo with babes...I'm talking like models like really hot sexy models some of them lesbian in the limo yes sorry? Were they dressed? Yeah no skimpily

2:24:43 Scantily, skimpy. Sounds good. Scantily glad. But also a bunch of other friends and some extravagant gay guys... I think there was a mechanical bull somewhere. I remember something briefly. That's a big limo! now. That was a big ass limo and then they dressed me in like these super like hipster clothes. Oh, they flommed on you and started dressing you? Yeah yeah! They dressed me in all kinds of glittery stuff and did my hair and then they just got me completely wasted took me around town and all I remember is the next morning Miss Mickey and I woke up in a mansion

2:25:19 You didn't end up with a bunch of photos in compromised positions like bent over the hot tub or something. I have not seen them yet and so you know we had to do that whole walk-in... We knocked him out with a roofie, what are we gonna do now? It took me two days to recover! You were roofied! Probably I do remember though, someone said hey smoke this and like oh weed haven't had that in years. And it was like alright when am i? In high school but I don't remember much after that yeah of course not and uh and that's it I'm not interested I gave up I'm not interested and you know hey I'm still... It's been more than half a year now smoke-free entirely No cigarettes Did you have a sore butt after this

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David Icke, Brown Brothers Harriman Bank

The hosts play a clip of conspiracy researcher David Icke filming outside the Brown Brothers Harriman bank in New York. Icke describes the firm as an "Illuminati bank" with ties to Prescott Bush and the financing of the Nazi party. Dvorak jokingly suggests that such a well-connected bank might actually be a great place to open an account.

david icke· brown brothers harriman· illuminati· banking· prescott bush

2:26:06 Alright, let's get back to something important. This is crazy! So I'm talking about our freedom to say what we want like the sore butt gag on this show because we have value for value Yeah, how does that work? So I have a completely different take on this and this is the kind of thing you can do. I have this cute David Icke clip that he was in New York City roaming around doing some videos for his website and he stumbled upon the Brown Brothers Harriman Bank where they were taking pictures outside and this clip ensued and then my take on it after researching the bank was a little different than his

2:26:45 We got this real kind of contrast here. Over there is the park where all the protesters have been, and over here is staff it seems from Brown Brothers Harriman. This is... I mean if you look at it, look at the size of the fricking building! Brown Brothers Harriman are one of the major Illuminati banks going back to the 1800's and they're having their picture taken here. This is the 1% that people are talking about and you know while people are suffering and then people are losing their homes and going into the streets these people are working for the companies, the system that's actually doing it. And they'll have no problem you know we had a situation not long ago about I don't know couple of weeks ago where there was a company that had every year they had like a party with a theme and it was a company that was throwing people out their homes

2:27:40 often illegally during this mayhem that we've been going through and they had this theme party, the people were actually doing it where they dressed as poor homeless people who'd been thrown out of their homes. I mean talk about no empathy gone! They're going back into there big building now to do more mayhem for the world. I do remember that party, and I remember the pictures showing up all over the web of the bankers dressing as bums... Yeah! It was funny So i looked into this bank so this banks started in early 1800's they helped financed the civil war they invented the idea letters of credit They had Prescott Bush on their board Oh! They financed the Nazis is what you're saying

2:28:27 Well, I think they financed everything but the bank is so well established as probably a Luminati Bank over the years that i'm thinking this is a great bank. I am going to try and get an account there. This is a great bank! This has got to be as good as Mechanics Bank. But will they accept Bitcoin? Fantastic. But I think the knee-jerk thing is, oh the horrible bank! I'm thinking no! This is where you want to put all your ten bucks? This is fantastic. I got just a couple things and something that plays into what I see on your list here. First of all there's a new study out from the British Journal of Social Psychology

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Conspiracy Theory, Psychological Projection Study

A study from the British Journal of Social Psychology suggests that people who believe in conspiracy theories are often projecting their own willingness to conspire onto others. The research claims that individuals with Machiavellian tendencies are more likely to endorse such theories. The hosts mock the study as an attempt to pathologize dissent.

psychology· conspiracy theories· projection· machiavellianism· social science

2:29:16 Which I would like to read the abstract. Uh, you know we are in uh... Right now it's time for the DSM again You know the DSM I do know the DSM. Yeah, do you know the DSM? So the DSM is uh...the big Bible that uh...uh...that psychiatrists and psychologists- I thought they just did one! Nothing gets coming out now it's now it's this month Is it the one isn't the one you've been reading from the one that's already out or what? It's all the propo- well yeah four five is coming out and uh- Diagnosis something manual So there's all the people submit and they try and get their illness in there so that you know they can sell the medication. But here we have very interesting because it's about conspiratorial thinking, I'll read you the abstract and then i think we can conclude what they're saying but... And this is a serious study this is The New England Journal of Social Psychology British Journal of Social Psychology sounds official to me

2:30:20 We advanced a new account of why people endorse conspiracy theories, arguing that individuals use the social cognitive tool of projection when making social judgments about others. In two studies we found that individuals were more likely to endorse conspiracy theories if they thought they would be willing personally to participate in the alleged conspiracies Study 1 established an association between conspiracy beliefs and personal willingness to conspire, which fully mediated a relationship between Machiavellianism and conspiracy beliefs. In study 2 participants primed with their own morality were less inclined than controls to endorse conspiracy theories—a finding fully mediated by personal willingness to conspire

2:31:14 In other words, these results suggest that some people think they conspired because they think that they would actually conspire. I find this fascinating! Yeah...I never thought of it that way but i can see this I'm sure, so... I need to be medicated. It makes sense with you! Yeah, I need to be medicated quickly You'd love to go off in a spacecraft Yes! You were gonna meet a spaceman sometime back if i recall Of course he never showed up An alien? It wasn't the space man it was an alien Spaceman He was supposed to be a grey, but he's kinda lame Yeah. And then the other one, this is a bill in Connecticut now of course what happened in Connecticut with the children out there and Newtown they you know I child kill the children so what do we have to do well done you'll love this this is a Senate bill and the state senate course

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Connecticut Senate Bill, Behavioral Health Assessments

The hosts discuss a proposed bill in Connecticut that would require mandatory "behavioral health assessments" for public and homeschooled children. They view this as a government overreach following the Sandy Hook shooting, intended to monitor and flag children who do not conform to "normal" behavioral standards.

connecticut· mental health· homeschooling· legislation· newtown

2:32:06 Section 10206 of the general statutes be amended to require each pupil enrolled in public school at grades 6, 8 ,10 and 12 and each homeschool child ages 12 14 17 to have a confidential behavioral health assessment So does your dad believe that we landed on the moon? No he doesn't. The results of which shall be disclosed only to the child's parent or guardian and each health care provider performing a child's behavioral health assessment, to complete the appropriate form supplied by the State Board of Education verifying that the child has received the assessment

2:32:57 They're going to literally check to see if you're normal, even if your homeschooled. Well that's... the home schoolers aren't gonna put up with that crap! Well it's uh I think all it needs is a proof where they have to say yes and then its good to go Yeah You'll see It's... this is Connecticut dude, not Berkeley Connecticut and the worst oh by the way I want to mention if I forgot to mention this during that segment we actually closed a book on today's show in terms of donations a couple hours early because of the time change so some people think they got their donation in on time will have to wait till Thursday. Oh yeah good point let's see what else

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TSA Security, Undercover Agent Fake Bomb

An undercover federal agent successfully smuggled a fake bomb past TSA security at Newark Airport and boarded a commercial flight. Despite two screenings and a pat-down, the device went undetected. The hosts discuss how the media has shifted to using the term "IED" for all such devices to increase public fear.

tsa· airport security· newark airport· ied· undercover test

2:33:46 So we identified, what? Three weeks ago the change and it was there's an actual change in definition. It's happening all the time now words matter In the definition of IED so at this point We know that you know if you have a bomb on your underpants that's not an underpants bomb That's an IED Everything is an IED an improvised explosive device And so now all sudden the Newark Airport And I didn't get any report. Do you get any reports on this? Because instead of... The TSA bomb BS story? That's the one! Do you have that? Have it, play it

2:34:22 Oh, yes indeed you do. Thank you security concerned to tell you about a Newark Airport listen of this an undercover agent managed to slip past Security with a fake bomb then boarded commercial plane he has the device stuffed in his pants He went through two security screenings even got a pat-down This report didn't mention IED the ones I saw on television which I didn't clip we all said IED It wasn't anything, it was a phony bomb. Yeah but that's the point... But if you look at the report and the headline, the headline was very very clear because this is the headline you want to google

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Export Control Reform, Iraq and Australia Sales

President Obama issues an executive order regarding export control reform, which the hosts interpret as a way to sell surplus security equipment to foreign governments. They highlight a $600 million sale of mobile scanners to Iraq and a multi-billion dollar defense package for Australia, including "Growler" aircraft and missile launchers.

executive order· iraq· australia· defense exports· scanners

2:35:06 Screeners allow Fed agent with fake bomb. This everyone copied this is it was like they said at a press release Yeah, they did It's all the same just to sell some new piece of gear from Chertoff I'm sure well funny you say that because The president came out with an executive order You know how much I love reading those And this one, it was impossible. This executive order... if the president actually sat down and said I'm gonna write this executive order well then he needs to be awarded a Nobel Prize for something and this is the Executive Order of Reformed Export Controls and it's here by the authority vested in me laws of America the Arms Export Control Act as amended and that's just all

2:35:56 All these things, section 301 title 3. Section 1 delegation of functions under those sections three of the act 22 USC 2753 the exception subsections a one b c3 c4 f22 usc275 3a one b c3 c 4 and F The secretary of state secretary of state in the delegated functions under section 3 ad of the act Under sections 520 I mean just it all it is is Lee's a big legal document which hi? I don't even know where to start with this He's not saying anything? Of course, then they give you a fact sheet. Sure is bogus! Today the administration announced two key steps to further the goals of President Obama's Export Control Reform Initiative which is a common sense approach to overhauling the nation's export control system but this of course about weapons

2:36:44 And then his whole fact sheet tells us about weapons. I don't know, this is beyond my government legislation analysis capabilities but what i do know Is that immediately in the federal register two export notifications showed up The most interesting one which is 600 million dollars to the country of Iraq and that is for scanners What? Wrappers scanners for what? Description 90m 45 rapid scan mobile. Oh get those damn things out of the warehouse exactly Took him out of the airports what are we gonna do with these things? I have an idea Yeah Let's do an executive order so we can then sell this stuff to the government of rock has requested a possible sale of 90 m45 Rapid-scan mobile high energy Mobile system vehicles for DM 60 rapid scan mobile high Eagle high energy mobile system vehicle 70 and

2:37:46 It's just on and on and on. Spare parts, support equipment... U.S government contract estimated cost $600 the proposed sale directly supports the Iraqi government and serves the interests of the Iraqi people and the United States! How do these people get away with this bullshit? And it says right here Perspective purchaser, Iraq. Total estimated value $600 million dollars Major defense equipment? Zero million Other 600 million I love that other It's just other Don't worry about it And we also sold a whole bunch of crap to Australia You know why don't we sold there and we sold like two billion dollars worth of stuff Now this poor Australians they get screwed by us 2.6... here it is major defense equipment

2:38:42 I love that. It's so fun when you read that. Notice proposed to... total value 3.7 billion, major defense equipment 2.6 billion other 1.1 billion. Other? It says other! We're selling Super Hornets let's see 12 F-18 oh we're selling the Lane plane. Jets yeah it's a twelve Growlers 54 GE 402. A growler? 12 Growlers, what beer are they putting in that thing it's I don't know what that is the EA 18g growler aircraft Oh aircraft yeah F414 GE 402 engines 48 installed 6 spares 2 engine inlet devices What else do we got here with something anything some tactical some tactical radio systems whoo We are selling you

2:39:35 Hello Australia, 72 LAU guided missile launchers 15 M61A2 Vulcan cannons. Are they expecting to attack... somebody expecting to attack Australia? I don't know! Who's attacking Australia the New Zealanders? I don't think so 32 night vision goggles let's see combined... Chinners coming after the Aussies We have 40 ANAPX... Why take a chance Combined Interrogator Transponders We've got a communications, 100 digital management devices. What the hell is that? You got to computers 36 navigation systems. Uh, we have 30 distributed targeting systems. I think it made your point anyway sent a lot of junk to the Australia because they are China's yeah over that old crap. Hey welcome enjoy the old crap we're sending into you and then uh...

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Diane Feinstein, Gun Control and John Brennan

Senator Diane Feinstein is criticized for her comments comparing hunting ducks to "hunting humans" while advocating for a ban on high-capacity magazines. The hosts also discuss CIA Director John Brennan's swearing-in ceremony, noting he took his oath on a draft of the Constitution that lacked the Bill of Rights.

diane feinstein· gun control· john brennan· cia· constitution

2:40:34 I see, uh...I just have two leftover clips and then we should get out of here. Leftover clip number one is from Diane Feinstein who was trying to remove slowly chipping away at the gun ownership in the United States of Gitmo Nation Did you know it's legal to hunt humans John? No! ...up and ban these weapons The other very important part of this bill is to ban large capacity ammunition feeding devices, those that hold over 10 rounds. We have federal regulations and state laws that prohibit hunting ducks with more than three rounds and yet it's legal to hunt humans with 15 round 30 round even 150-round magazines. Thank you

2:41:22 I have a Feinstein clip too that one of our producers sent in. Just want to clarify, it's legal to hunt humans for your mac and cheese dish? Yeah you only want ten rounds though so like its illegal for ducks over three so its got humans 10 Apparently so she just called me Brennan. She's talking this is a mediocre clip, but it came in well She almost called him mr.. Drone It's my understanding that I have a half hour on behalf of the majority Of the intelligence committee to make a statement In support of Mr.. Drunk mr.. Brent You think you're saying mr.. Drone

2:42:05 You know he took his oath, Mr. Drone? Did you hear about what happened? No! Oh... So there's a picture of him taking the oath because of course he has to swear to defend- He is now the director of CIA and has to swear to defend and uphold the Constitution And he takes it with these elites man they throw it in my face It makes me so angry that they do this So he took the Oath Of Office He did it with a draft, so he puts his hand on a draft copy of the Constitution including notations from George Washington from 1787. Unfortunately when he vowed to protect and defend the Constitution in this swearing-in ceremony, he was basically swearing in on a constitution that did not include the first, first? The fourth, fifth or sixth amendments

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Iran, Giant Mutant Super Rats

Reports from Tehran, Iran, describe an invasion of "super rats" weighing up to 11 pounds that are resistant to poison and require sniper units to eliminate. John C. Dvorak theorizes that these rats are the result of a "genetic cascade" caused by U.S. biological interference. The show concludes with a warning that these mutant rodents could eventually reach New York City.

iran· tehran· mutant rats· genetic engineering· stuxnet

2:42:59 So he's like, yeah I promise. Yeah i'm all in! I'm all-in except for those and it's like what kind of cruel joke is this? It's very funny Do we not understand that the guy is basically saying... I don't know.. I don't give a shit Well, I've got one little offbeat story just to close out with that. I've been meaning to say over the last couple of shows so and you can everyone can Google this and get a look at these things there are now apparently There's been a mutation in the world of mammals and now apparently Iran is crawling with 20 pound super rats

2:43:46 that they actually have to shoot in the streets with high-powered weaponry and these things don't even look like rats or somehow in the world I think we've done this to them. Is this a clip? No, it's no clip! Just Google giant rat Iran and see one of these things are like a large dog Can you domesticate them well? Well, I don't know... They might be good eating for all you know Oh my God Yes Wow So you think that we... I think we've contaminated Iran with a genetically mutated super rat which cascaded. You know, it's the phenomenon they did this with dog breeding. They'll notice that when you start to breed a dog in certain way there are certain genetic qualities will change but then all of sudden you get what is called the cascade effect

2:44:33 And a whole bunch of genes will change at once and the dog will have white fur that's curly, he has got a small spot nose. All these different things happen all at once that weren't really bred they just happened to happen because of a cascade effect in genetic engineering this happens so I think we've got a genetic cascade, because this has a funny pig-like snout. It's huge and fat and it's got all kinds of new characteristics that we've never seen in rats before here is the unintended consequence somebody or somehow one of these rats is going to get into New York City possibly for eating couples? Oh yeah! It's all over then...It's like we couldn't contain Stuxnet part of Olympic Games which we created confirmed and admitted

2:45:18 So, oh my god. I got- maybe this is a video of a report 25 million giant rats 2013. The capital of Iran, the city of Tehran has been plagued with monstrous giant rats! An alarming 25 million rats which is double the population have overwhelmingly jumped from 60 grams to 5 kilos These rats have rapidly grown up to 11 pounds outgrowing the size of their arch nemesis, the cat Not only they outgrown cats but cats are also afraid of them Though easily recognized by their size and strange features, these rats are also poison resistant. Several military sniper units have been deployed to kill these rats, and the amount killed so far hasn't even put a dent in this apocalyptic mass rat invasion

2:46:10 Wow. Well, there's basically one picture of a super rat Yeah I know it may be a bogus story in some ways but it shows up a lot and I think is quite possible that they have...I don't know if all the whole rat population are these things I don't believe that for a minute But there's this...I can say..I know about this cascading effect with genetic change when you try to breed stuff You get all the sudden dog changes completely I think thats what happened with these rats we got Monster rats, some joker in the State Department said hey I got a great idea let's bump these rats drop them into Iran and one of our drones put them in the drone and open it. There are a lot of possibilities but we planted them

2:46:54 Well, there is so much crazy genetic manipulation going on and we know all about people crossing animals with humans. There's all kinds of crazy crap that is happening so it doesn't surprise me But wow, you know they're trying to take away our 30 round magazines. We are going to need them when these rats get over here! Can't imagine this? That thing is frightening. Oh man... Alright well... People should look into this Well we shall definitely look into it Alright well let's see there was a big shut up slave moment in See where was that? That was all that was in Hartford, Connecticut. I think we'll know will deal with all that on Thursday It's gonna be plenty to talk about I'll see if I can find any good douchebag stories here at South by Southwest and miss Mickey And I you know We're going to make lemonade out of the lemons and use the passes still going on it goes on for months God people are here for weeks at a time and I'll go say hi to some of the listeners

2:48:00 And speaking of that, a No Agenda Producer Update shall commence today with Sir Gene in the posse. Along with Sir Gitmo Slave and I guess Sir 19-inch Rack Void Zero and perhaps the freshly minted Sir Oil Thank you all very much for supporting our Value for Value model Continue to do that We do need your support at Dvorak.org slash NA And until we speak on Thursday Coming to you from the intersection of SoCo and MoFo, in the Travis Heights hideout. In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley where i have my eye out for the giant rats! I'm John C Dvorak We'll talk again on Thursday right here on No Agenda The best podcast in the universe! dvorak dot org slash n a