Episode 483 · Thursday, 31 January 2013

Culture Creationism

Military drills terrify residential neighborhoods as former intelligence chiefs justify enhanced interrogation and Hollywood rebrands the 16th President for a new political era.

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Residents in Houston and Miami reported unannounced military training exercises involving low-flying helicopters and gunfire in residential neighborhoods. The U.S. Army and local police utilized the former Carnegie Vanguard High School for drills using blank rounds and armed men in fatigues, causing widespread confusion among local emergency services. This surge in domestic military activity coincides with reports of expanded multi-agency coordination and unnotified urban warfare simulations.

Former CIA officials Michael Hayden and Jose Rodriguez defended the enhanced interrogation program on C-SPAN, claiming high-value detainee Abu Zubaydah suggested waterboarding as a religious loophole for cooperation. Meanwhile, the Pentagon announced a 4,000-person expansion of Cyber Command following alleged Chinese hacks of the New York Times. In the Netherlands, Queen Beatrix announced her abdication in favor of Prince Willem-Alexander, while President Obama pledged $155 million in Syrian aid and pushed for a national employment verification database during a Las Vegas summit. Additional reports examine the French military intervention in Mali and the use of IGF-1 deer antler spray in professional sports.

Steven Spielberg’s Lincoln is scrutinized as a work of culture creationism designed to provide historical cover for modern executive overreach. The hosts acknowledge a massive $575 donation from a Valued Cardholder and grant a Damehood to Lizzie, one of the youngest members of the No Agenda Roundtable. The segment concludes with a critique of Georgetown Law professor Louis Michael Seidman and his public calls for constitutional disobedience.


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CHAPTER 01 / 35 Discussion

Military Training Drills, Houston and Miami Neighborhoods

Residents in Houston and Miami reported military helicopters and gunfire in residential neighborhoods during unannounced multi-agency training exercises. The U.S. Army and local police departments utilized the old Carnegie Vanguard High School for drills involving armed men in fatigues and blank rounds. Local emergency services were reportedly not fully notified, leading to confusion when ambulances were dispatched for "shots fired" calls.

houston· miami· blackhawk helicopters· military drills· carnegie vanguard high school

00:00 Dear Antler Spray. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak It's Thursday January 31st 2013 time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode 483 This is no agenda Celebrating the centennial swazzle nuff In the capital of the drone star state Austin Tejas in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley where it's always swazzle nuff I'm John C. Dvorak Really? It's always swazzle-nuff in Northern California, whatever. Yeah yeah Always swazzle-nuff! Yeah it is a known fact Science... science is in Everybody knows this about California Well everyone once again we will be slicing open the matrix so you can poke your head out for fresh air We do it twice a week and you need it

01:00 This is the No Agenda Show, also known as the best podcast in the universe. And wow! So did you know we ran that story last show about the choppers and all of military gear floating around Miami? Oh yeah and now it happened in Houston. When it was happening in Miami it was happening in LA. Really I didn't get a LA report. Yeah same day. Hold on here's the Houston report With military helicopters flying above her Southeast Houston neighborhood, Frances Geralds didn't know what to think. When you see this you think the worst when you hear this you think the worst and so she passed along her concern She told me don't come home because it sounds like we're in a war zone guns shooting and helicopters flying around over the house

01:54 The Army along with other agencies had taken over the old Carnegie Vanguard High School. There were armed men in fatigues, plenty of weapons and what many thought were real live rounds. I felt like i was in a war zone it just looks non-stop here comes I was terrified Turns out it was a multi-agency training drill that Gerald's wished would have come with warning. They could've done a better job at notifying the neighborhood Others needed no explanation If it's to protect our kids, I'm all for it Yeah! There you go always some a-hole like that wandering around with the general public. If it's to protect our kids, I'm all for it! And an Army major who is out here wouldn't tell us exactly what kind of training they were doing HPD was aware of what was going on but the fire department apparently wasn't in fact an ambulance was even dispatched this way for shots fired call until HPD told them

02:52 It wasn't real. Yeah, well you know... Shut up! You don't need to know anything. I mean do you need to know what's going on? This is official business?! So what military agency? Did anyone ever get to the bottom of this bullcrap? No, of course not. This is- it's completely unimportant It's completely unimportant. I mean it seems to me you got a bunch of Blackhawk helicopters and whatever they are. Well, actually they look like MD500s the one that they showed but that could have been file footage You have no idea what they're showing That's what i'm saying We are now completely John Completely 100% entirely immersed in The Matrix And now I understand how it all works

CHAPTER 02 / 35 Discussion

Lincoln Film Review, Culture Creationism and Political Propaganda

The 2012 film Lincoln, directed by Steven Spielberg, is analyzed as an exercise in "culture creationism" designed to mirror the presidency of Barack Obama. The narrative focuses on the passage of the 13th Amendment as the primary driver for ending the Civil War, which is contrasted against historical theories regarding state rights and international gold interests. The portrayal suggests that a president may bypass constitutional norms for a perceived greater good.

steven spielberg· abraham lincoln· 13th amendment· barack obama· academy awards

03:39 Finally how many episodes 483 and finally I'm getting it So home is Mickey, and I watched Lincoln The other night. I know that somebody's watching these movies as they appear well not yet remember miss Mickey is still a Card-carrying SAG member so she has to vote for the upcoming Academy Award She's a member of the academy So this is very important that she watches all these movies. Is she a voter? Yeah, of course! If you have a SAG card... No, a SAG doesn't mean your'e a voter for the Academy automatically Yes, yes it is That's how it works You get boxes and boxes of screeners? Yeah And they all say don't copy They literally say after you watch the movie you have to cut the disc

04:31 Send him to me. No, I'm not that would be illegal. I'm gonna send them to you Oh Friend hey listen miss Mickey's very serious about this she doesn't want one of the guys over it What's his name? I can't remember his name now That was over at Mevio and he brought all the screeners in and they just passed them around yeah what happened to where is he huh exactly Harvey Weinstein had him hit Anyway, so then the situation long enough that he knows its bogus So anyway, go on. So we watch this movie now This movie was of great interest to me because it was screened for the first time at the White House once again You know Steven Spielberg and you know There's all these reasons that you kind of think that there's a reason for it And we've heard all this talk about... So you found the reason? Before you say anything can I say one thing? Yeah! I'm not even interested in watching that movie It just looks dreadfully dull Well, I need to ask you some questions about it

05:30 because this was an example of culture creationism that I, that I was completely dumbfounded. Culture creationism. Yeah, this is my new word I'm digging you like that huh? So you know where we have zero dark 30 which is another movie I reviewed which of course completely strings together all those events and creates the narrative for you right down to the mispronunciation Of Abbott Abad which of course is a bottom odd Is the way it's pronounced in the movie to cement truth of history into everyone's minds This this is what is now being done And we are so stupid

06:08 That we allow this to happen without question. So when it comes to, now luckily you are a student of the Civil War and I know this about yet that you go out so like twice a year and do one of those reenactments right? I wish! Yeah! I'm trying to think whether I should ask you or maybe I'll just tell you what the movie was and then you and I can discuss what The Civil War was really about. So now Mickey has not had the indoctrination, has not had what we were taught in schools

06:47 And she saw the movie exactly for what it was. She said this is a very inspirational movie that a president can be great, even if he breaks the rules i.e., some constitutional laws, it can still be for the greater good and it was very inspiring and hopeful which is exactly what this movie is supposed to portray seen as a movie As historical document however... Oh my goodness! movie starts off battlefield headline 600,000 young men killing each other in the Civil War then the entire movie John is all about the 13th Amendment and that if only President Lincoln can get the votes The Thirteen Amendment will be signed and that will end the war. They sign the thirteenth amendment It gets passed in the house the war ends That is the movie now tell me that is not what the civil war was about

07:45 Well, it's an interesting question for a number of reasons. One is the debate as to what the war was about. It was... The states? The southern states seceded? In fact the South usually calls it the War Between States and it was about their rights to do state rights versus federal rights There's a book that everyone should get if they really care about this, and it is by Kenneth Stamp. It was a collection of writings

08:29 around the Civil War period and after and before, which is around about why there's going to be...why there should be a war. Why there's gonna be a war? Why there shouldn't be a split up of the country how the French and the English wanted the country to be split in half so they could each have half of it and then share their rights with gold that was discovered out in California because they can use that There was a gold rush going on at the time, big one. And South America had a lot of gold and silver too. So there's a million reasons it wasn't... The slavery thing was an element. That didn't come up until like the war was already underway I believe?

09:15 Well, there was the abolitionist movement had been around for a while. And so that's coming up at this point. Lincoln wasn't elected with it in mind that he was going to free the slaves and in fact what it was, at least a lot of people believe this and I'm kind of in this camp is that based on the sociology of the era that Lincoln used the 13th Amendment to free the slaves as a political tool because what it ended up doing was getting France and England out of the war. Because for political reasons in their own home countries, if this was about slavery neither one could... they couldn't take the French couldn't take the side of the South because there were forced labor and the French were now against it it's in their own country. And the British who had the same kind of a problem because it was like they had all kinds

10:11 issues in their own parliament during this period about whether we should support slavery or not, and if the French weren't going to be in on this game. The French by the way have to remember they moved Maximilian into Mexico as the ruler of Mexico so right as the war ended that whole French contingent of soldiers and everybody can move right into the south and take it over Well let me add a little wrinkle to this entire story just so you understand that President Lincoln, and this was documented I think in 2010 or 2011. There were a couple of researchers came up with a number of documents that showed that Lincoln's entire idea was to repatriate the slaves back to Africa he thought it would be good idea to send them back particularly to Guyana and also some to South America

11:06 That was his entire plan. He never got to implement the plan because he was assassinated not long after the men were shot. Well, the repatriation movement was very popular amongst a lot of people including a lot of the blacks. Yeah and I think you know it because you know there's this comparison between Lincoln and Obama which is very very strong, and I believe this is not without...this is not any coincidence. Oh yeah, now that sounds like a propaganda film that's why I'm not interested in watching it! Well but listen to the comparison

11:43 So if Lincoln was going to send all and these were now at this point educated slaves. Did you get any clips? No, I didn't get any clips! I'm not gonna clip that movie well i'll give him my vibe on the movie in a minute but he was going to send these slaves to Africa they were now educated educated and weaponry...I think you know this is very similar to you know that basically would have been the Al-Qaeda of the day It's the same thing. Go ahead, go to all the colonies and light everything on fire and make a ruckus... And that would have been perfect at the time! This is where Obama & Lincoln in my mind are equal.

12:28 That and the fact that the president, the way the movie I don't know if it's true in history but the way the movie portrayed it is that Lincoln lied about knowing that the South had delegates to come and negotiate peace. And he still wanted to push through with that 13th Amendment and that he bent the rules and broke the...lied to Congress went against the Constitution for the greater good So all of these things show that this is how Obama is a great man because he too can bend the rules and break the Constitution for the greater good. Here's the only thing that is impossible for anyone to get over, and it was very confusing not to me but if you look at United States from outside and all you know are Republican and Democrat parties

CHAPTER 03 / 35 Discussion

Republican Party History, Civil War and Southern Strategy

The historical shift in political party platforms is examined, noting that Abraham Lincoln was a Republican while the Democratic Party originally supported slavery. The transition of the South from Democratic to Republican control is attributed to Richard Nixon’s "Southern Strategy," which aimed to build a coalition of Southern voters through religious and social appeals. This political evolution has led to modern public confusion regarding the historical roles of both parties.

republican party· democrats· richard nixon· southern strategy· civil war

13:20 If you went on the street right now and you ask anyone in America, you said was Lincoln a Republican or Democrat? I guarantee you 99% will say he was a Democrat. Whereas it was the Democrats who wanted slavery and it is the Republicans against irony of the day so how so the question is Did something flip or are the Democrats actually so racist that they were able to change the narrative and push that on to the Republicans? Well, what happened... It wasn't something that took place overnight. Nothing ever does! It was a process I believe began with Roosevelt And it was a slave, even though you have to say the Democrats also kept the military segregated. I mean it was painful for them to give up on that

14:15 I think it was Truman. And then, but not during World War II, it was segregated and they were kind of like in their own battalions and such Yeah, no they've made a slow movement. It's hard to say I mean...I don't think it's ever been perfectly deconstructed but they've done a great job of appealing to minorities with promises that the Republicans refuse to make. But it's crazy when- Free money! I'll love you for free money. Come on! But it's crazy when you look at this because, and Mickey couldn't... This is great to see someone who has not had the indoctrination or has not been through... views America still somewhat from the outside It was fantastic to see her go, I don't understand how come the Republicans aren't the racist? How come the Republicans actually wanted to free the slaves? Lincoln was a Republican

15:13 It's a shocker. It is a shocker, it really is a shocker and that to me can only really mean one thing that people's minds have been melded really by the signals they received by the media this is this is the only way I don't think either party is necessarily really you know at the individuals I'm thinking of people running around being racist but you know the way its branded around so easily oh Republicans are racists It does not coincide with this reasonably recent history. I found that to be very interesting Well, one of the reasons this happened was the Southern strategy that was initiated by Nixon and the Republicans One of the problems they always had during elections was the Democrats could win with a coalition

16:06 Dixiecrats, which are the southern Democrats which are the racists that still are irked about the Civil War and they're still down there. And all Democrats and the Northeast Corridor in other words the normal liberal Democrats and this group would always be tied together somehow. And so they'd always, they could win elections that's how Kennedy got in with a combination of barely with the combination of these people when the Republicans decided to cater to these same Southerners that were essentially racists traditionally They managed to grab most of them and they did it through either churches or they've done it somehow rather but was called The Southern Strategy

16:48 to get these people to vote Republican. And most of them did, they couldn't get the blacks down there to vote Republican and they never thought that as an idea because the blacks down there were kept from voting anyway so it wasn't going to do much good by the same Dixiecrats but they managed to do that I think in itself may have been a real turning point for the idea that Republicans are bunch of racists because they catered to these people A bunch of racists, I'm telling you. You gotta make generalities or you can't get anywhere. So anyway this movie... but really

17:26 The Civil War was really much more about the Southern, in what I understand. The Southern states saying hey screw you we don't want you to dictate what were doing down here they seceded and that's what it was about and yes slavery was apart of it but it certainly not only ONLY about slavery and infact as the movie depicts ONLY about the 13th amendment And when you see how, I mean it's really interesting Tommy Lee Jones is almost kind of like a John Boehner type character. Even though they're on the same team he's Republican in the movie as well and he plays Republican Representative Stevens

CHAPTER 04 / 35 Discussion

Spielberg's Lincoln, Historical Inaccuracies and Casting

Specific cinematic choices in the movie Lincoln are critiqued, including the performances of Daniel Day-Lewis and Tommy Lee Jones. Historical inaccuracies are highlighted, such as the unlikely presence of Mary Todd Lincoln in the House gallery during the amendment vote. The film's ending, involving a romantic subplot for Representative Thaddeus Stevens, is characterized as a fictionalized addition to the historical record.

daniel day-lewis· tommy lee jones· james spader· sally field· historical bloopers

18:08 It's so clear, the culture that is created. The reality it melds together and you get this whole vibe like yeah no that was totally... It's the same thing where we were talking about Martin Luther King where he wasn't only about segregation, he was against the Vietnam War which you say I think correctly is one of the reasons he was killed or maybe THE reason he was killed. So things are changing and creating our minds and then you get this document this film by Spielberg...I mean it is changing history and this will now cemented forever uh... I'm sure this thing will win awards some good acting I'll say um Daniel Day Lewis

18:51 I don't know, you know. I have no idea if Lincoln was like this. I always thought he was a homosexual manic-depressive. You never heard that? I thought he was gay! I heard he was gay and manic-depressive. He had Mar fans which is... What's that? In fact, we did a bit on this Marfans once before because somebody had a... they slipped it in. Marfans is a giantism that makes you tall and gangly and kind of puts your head looks weird. Right. Okay well he had that Sally Fields is I think kind of nondescript she's great but the role is unimportant They might as well not have put her

19:38 And the funny thing, James Spader. You know who he is? James Spader? Everybody knows who James Spader is So James Spader has one way of acting James Spader. Yeah, and it's brooding. No he's like that within the... He usually talks loud. He's in the office you know? And doesn't talk loud. What is that Denny Crane show? Boston Legal. He's doing the same character with a mustache! That's what he always does. That's his character Where's Denny Crane? Is that what you were wondering? Any minute Shatner is gonna pop up in this movie. So anyway, I would not take this as a historical fact...I would not say that this is 100% the way to go on this and it was just kind of like wow! You know this is how it works we

20:36 We just set it all up. We make people believe that this is the truth you have a guy like Spielberg Directed or produce it, or whatever and then it's historical fact Spielberg is he's in there You know he's in the groove He does what he's told so he does to be sure I'm gonna read one of the little complaints I think it's funny to do just verify your point about Trying to make this an Obama story yeah There's no shortage of small historical bloopers in the movie. First Lady Mary Lincoln, for example never planted herself in the House gallery to observe the final tally on the amendment Michelle Obama may routinely attend the State of the Union Address each year but such a visit would have been unthinkable in 1865

21:21 Interesting, interesting. And along with the black help from the White House they were all in the galley, the press gallery. Impossible! Yeah and the funny thing at the end So Tommy Lee Jones, who has apparently fought his entire career to get the 13th Amendment in and passed. At the very end he takes it so it passes he says that to the speaker you know let me have a cut let me have this bill And the speaker says, well that's the official original bill. He says no I'll bring it back tomorrow just want to take it home you know been working on this all my life and he comes home and he takes off his wig You know he's had this crazy-ass black wig on these bald and is His housekeeper as black housekeeper takes his coat off and then he's hands it to her and says read this

22:12 And then she's reading it and she's reading, you know the 13th amendment. And then the camera zooms out... Hey I'm spoiling the movie for ya! The camera zooms out and they're both in bed together So he has been romantically involved with this woman who is pretending to be his housekeeper That's kind of.. They just....the whole thing was like come on man! Culture creationism Yeah, I would say another you all you've done is just confirm my lack of interest Okay the movie you need to see is silver lining playbook

CHAPTER 06 / 35 Discussion

Gabby Giffords Testimony, Gun Control and Drug Legalization

The public testimony of former Representative Gabby Giffords is scrutinized for its scripted nature and emotional delivery during the national gun control debate. The argument is made that focusing on gun legislation ignores the underlying issues of gang violence and the failed war on drugs. Legalizing drugs is proposed as a more effective method for reducing neighborhood violence and lowering high recidivism rates in the prison system.

gabby giffords· gun control· washington d.c.· drug war· incarceration

27:29 Months ago, it was six weeks ago months ago Okay month and a half ago All right So then while we're on the acting and while we're on this And I'm just gonna be the guy who's unpopular and says I don't give a crap because I got so many emails from people around The world who do not live in United States of Gitmo nation. And they said this without a doubt is the best acting performance They have ever seen Thank you for inviting me here today. This is an important conversation Now I really...I'm really bothered by what is coming out of my pie hole right now but, I just don't believe this! I am sorry, I just don't believe how you need to speak so slow How can-if if you have brain damage and you can't speak properly

28:29 But yet certain words are just flowing out really beautifully. It also doesn't mean that you have to write shit... Well, actually my wife called me this event that took place which we're going to talk about and probably get yourself into trouble which will be fun to watch is uh... My wife called me she says what is the deal with it? Is this whole thing scripted because she was more taken aback by her father or husband one of the two Husband, yeah Because it sounded like he was reading Yes, he was reading right next door yes And it was and she just thought it was insincere, and it was something bugged her. It's like something is wrong with this! This isn't right!" It's only one minute so...and this is the opening for those of you who don't know this is Gabby Giffords, a representative from Arizona who allegedly was shot in the head

29:20 and kind of started off the entire gun debate with a number of mass shootings. And, of course while this was taking place there was another breaking news as there was a shooting in Arizona I mean the coincidence is just amazing how well they do that and so she starts off the hearings in Washington with this very important message um...and uh...I'm..uh...I just listened to it and had the same feeling that lots of people had It doesn't add up and just listen to the words that do come out, and the words that don't come out. And how poorly scripted this is! Just because you have an issue with speaking after a brain injury doesn't mean your speech has to be dumb or stupid For our children for our communities for Democrats and Republicans Speaking is difficult

30:17 But I need to say something important. So now you're like, wow she's really messed up from this gunshot! Violence is a big problem Too many children are dying. I mean, is...I understand if maybe you're brain has been shot up if that all was completely true and you have a difficulty speaking it's not the words but what she saying? Like this is not...say something meaningful Yes save the children got it! Too many children Children We must do something

31:04 It will be hard, but the time is now. That by the way is the title of The White House document it is literally called The Time Is Now so this is all written in concert You must be Be courageous. Amazing! Democrats, Republicans is hard but courageous? Well slips right out Americans are counting on you thank you and the Oscar goes to yeah Gabby Giffords yes

31:49 Come on man. I mean, and you Everybody can call me an a-hole whatever you are anyway So let's not buy it back up a minute Okay, so they're doing everything they can to grab as many to do it just stop It's got nothing to street violence and gang violence and children being killed We'll say the ones in that we won't even take will take them out of this take the school shootings out And just say that in there in the neighborhoods of East LA are getting killed by random acts of violence, by guns that are traded amongst the gang members. They're not bought from gun shows. Gang members don't show up at gun shows and buy guns So this whole thing is bogus If they really wanted to stop all this violence they could legalize drugs

32:37 The fact that 62% of all prisoners are drug-related crimes for soft drugs and we have a system where if you go into prison, you never get a job again in your life so you have to recidivize yourself and go back into prison to get a meal. If they would just fix the drug war and make it so it's not a piece of crap Get rid of it. This would all end this would all end overnight Well, then please that brought up is that ever even suggested? Please don't bring anything rational into the into the conversation John That will be so wrong Toby's so incredibly wrong no no no That's not what we need to go with this This is you can watch this unfold before your very eyes now if you put all the pieces together We've got the military military

CHAPTER 07 / 35 Discussion

Mentally Ill Offender Treatment Act, DSM-V and Behavioral Disorders

Legislation to reauthorize the Mentally Ill Offender Treatment and Crime Reduction Act is analyzed in the context of expanding government surveillance of mental health. The reliance on the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) is criticized, suggesting that broad definitions of disorders like Oppositional Defiance Disorder (ODD) could lead to increased state intervention. The act facilitates collaboration between criminal justice systems and mental health treatment providers.

mentally ill offender treatment act· dsm-v· american psychiatric association· behavioral disorders· mental health courts

33:31 running drills with fake ammo but shooting from helicopters in Miami, in Texas and California. By the way who sues who when somebody has a heart attack over one of these episodes of exercises? Are you planning on something? No I'm just saying... Hey we can make it rich man! I'll get one of those defibrillators yeah finally finally can get some dough Now, to me we have that happening. We have just complete severe clampdown on the citizenry and yeah I guess if you take everyone's gun away or that seems to be the plan really. I don't want to get into this whole gun debate because I really do not care because you can listen to that it is like you not wanting to see Lincoln

34:26 Is because that's all the people are talking about, that's all that on the news like you know. That just it distracts at this point from what apparently is the real agenda and when you say legalizing drugs we have legalized drugs We've legalized the real drugs The ones that you get from the doctor Because of that part is good We got to lock up all the competing networks So I...you know Don't bring any rational conversation into it. Here's what here's what's going on We now have bills being put in you know I track this let's see this is from My eyesight is going

35:16 That's really bad. We have a bill in to reauthorize and improve the Mentally Ill Offender Treatment and Crime Reduction Act of 2004 Now we weren't doing this show in 2004 but we would've been all over this Do you have any idea what this is, John? The Mentally Ill Offender Treatment and Crime Reduction Act of 2004? Of course not So this is to reenact it. It was signed into law in 2004 and of course it expired, and they want to crank this one back up I think this is going to happen because its easy to say hey it was already in let's just bring it back This is...I have highlighted two bits from it

35:58 Findings starting off with this act, according to the Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention approximately 20% of youth in the juvenile justice system have serious mental health problems. So this is 2004 when they're already saying that 20 percent has mental health problems The purpose of this act which I believe will be reinstated to increase public safety by facilitating collaboration a great word collaboration right that one down among the criminal justice juvenile justice mental health treatment and substance abuse systems such Collaboration needed to protect the public safety which will provide courts including existing and new mental health courts I didn't know we had mental health courts with appropriate mental health and substance abuse options

36:48 to promote adequate training, they call it training for criminal justice systems and personnel about mental illness and substance abuse disorders to be able to respond to people with such illnesses. So you know we're going to make sure that we can identify if you are mentally ill and then do something about it." And how do we identify it? Well I have it right here Mental illness the term mental illness means a diagnosable mental behavioral or emotional disorder with sufficient duration to meet the diagnostic criteria within the most recent edition of The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders published by the American Psychiatric Association There you go. So everything in the DSM including your kids spinning

37:44 will be enough for the authorities to determine that you have a mental illness and take appropriate action in a mental health court. This is where this is going, everyone... You look at the DSM Ford is out now five is coming everybody is ill I have at least eight wasn't background checks they'll catch ya yeah oppositional defiance disorder ODD it's in the DSM we have this you have this John That's not right! Anyway, to wind up this bill it will promote communication among adult or juvenile justice personnel mental health and co-occurring mental illnesses and substance abuse disorders treatment personnel nonviolent offenders with mental illness or co-occurring mental illnesses and substance abuse disorders and support services such as housing job placement community faith based and crime victims organizations we'll all be working together uh...to help

38:47 All of you who are mentally ill according to the DSM-IV and soon to be 5. Which includes I think PBA if you laugh too much or cry too much, that's how this is what really happening. Yeah well... And then there is another angle So of course President Obama is really about two industries, well kind of three if you take the banking industry. Pharmaceutical which he's all in and will do anything to help the pharmaceutical industry and what other industries John? Well he's into banking for sure but... Yeah but what part of banking? Come on man, help me out. Big Banking I don't know where your headed at. How about insurance?

CHAPTER 08 / 35 Discussion

Gun Liability Insurance, NPR and Pharmaceutical Industry

A proposal featured on NPR suggests requiring gun owners to carry liability insurance similar to automobile insurance. Proponents argue this would provide compensation for victims and create a financial barrier for high-risk individuals. Critics argue this measure would only affect law-abiding citizens while failing to address the illegal firearm trade used by gangs.

npr· gun insurance· liability· pharmaceutical industry· university of michigan

39:35 The insurance industry. Oh yeah, no the insurance industry is in their pockets Car Insurance you have to answer questions like this Is this the first time you're getting a car? How many years have you been driving for the past five years how many accidents or violations Jacob Baum sells auto insurance at Choice Insurance Agency in Brooklyn New York He asks his questions to help insurers figure out how likely it is your car will be involved in an accident Not just you as the driver In accident. Now remember she's saying... Who is this girl? Is this a college station? Yeah, that's NPR exactly it's the college station. Are you kidding me?! No, this is NPR yeah listen to the big man! This guy see how much your car if you're gonna be in accident Well regardless of their age now imagine we have gun owners these same questions How old are you what's your gender what type of gun is this

40:29 But they're teenagers in the house. Justin Wolfers is a professor of economics and public policy at the University of Michigan, and this is what he wants He wants people like Jacob Baum to be asking these same questions of gun owners To be selling them liability insurance based on their answers I'm telling you this is a good this is a way to go If you pass the test, which is based on the DSM and you want a gun. Yeah no problem You just got to take out insurance on having the gun this is fantastic Oh that is genius This is the way to go That's a good catch This is the way to go you get you gotta have guns we know that cars kill people And so we have strong liability insurance requirements for guys We also know guns killed in the United States literally tens of thousands people year

41:18 It seems like it's creating enormous social harm and we're asking you to pay for it. Well, I love it! You know whenever someone says hey man cars don't kill people... People kill people they say well neither do guns so why don't just have them insured just like a car? This is the only argument that is valid this fantastic Everybody wins on Obama's side. The paper says requiring insurance wouldn't just provide compensation for families of gun violence victims, it would help keep guns out of the hands of people we don't want to have them. Oh sure! This is bull... Wait hold on a second! I know, I know! Wow what a bunch of morons if anybody listens to NPR and laps this up like a pet dog lap lap lap

42:04 These we just I just mentioned earlier gangbangers are buying guns from each other. Yeah, they're not taking out insurance Oh wait a minute you said the guys who were shooting up to children in the neighborhoods with drive-bys You tell me they don't have like a gun fair Unconscionable there's no gangster gun fair where they all go and have a swap meet come on my age yeah think about it anyway Go on now Go on What else can I say? That's it. This is to get everybody on the drugs or at least diagnose everybody and then get them on the drugs, and then you know the people that still want guns... Like insurance angle though thats genius Yeah well and its being propagated by your national treasure makes total sense to me

CHAPTER 09 / 35 Discussion

Podcast Artwork Critique, Design Tips and Visual Memes

The hosts review listener-submitted artwork for the podcast, providing feedback on visibility and originality. Common mistakes include using text that is too small to read when scaled down to thumbnail size and using copyrighted imagery that could lead to legal issues. Specific pieces referencing Zero Dark Thirty and Gardasil are evaluated for their comedic value and technical execution.

podcast art· graphic design· zero dark thirty· gardasil· anonymous

42:59 That is morning to you Adam Curry. Oh, well in the morning to you John C Dvorak and to all ships at sea boots on the ground feet in the air ankles in the stirrups and And of course our human resources in the chat room a no agenda stream calm know agenda chat net I have a quick Mentioned to make we've talked about Lincoln Noah Jenna films comm We haven't talked about it in awhile but no agenda films calm dutifully posts everything every movie we talked about and continues To bring you suggestions. I think once or twice a week, so make sure you check that out as a PR initiative of the program and I think we can thank Nick the rat for the artwork on episode 4a to Now we look forward to it We have so much art coming in which is now we should probably do after spend a minute or two discussing

43:53 the art and to give some people some tips because I think a lot of people aren't getting enough feedback and they keep making the same mistakes. Okay, let's do that now. I'm gonna do it later you want to the next show? I don't care But I think it needs to be done Let's do what we have to go We will look at the page and we will go over the different art pieces And then it's not all of them okay, but specific ones and say here's why we're not going to pick this ever Because there's a number of them that will never get picked even as everyone right so let's do it So already we have art in for 483, so let's look at it right now Okay, okay look so all right. So for eight three we have zero dark 33 Which was put in you know and by Craig Seymour And it is the hot red chick from Zero Dark 30 and the hot red chick yeah the Redhead you mean the Redhead? Yeah She's read a soulless there you go, and then yeah, so what is this do you think this is uh is this

44:57 Mokhtar or Osama Bin Laden? Yeah I guess he's interviewing her, he has a microphone and he has got CIA badge. Here is problem one The joke of course is the CIA badge that'll never show up when it's in the artwork because you're seeing at full size now. Yeah, it's always shrunk down this is a big mistake. People have to shrink their art and see if you can get a joke in there at all what does it look like? What is your size? You do 250 by 250 I think I'd do 400 by 400 Yeah, I basically take this and I do put the full size image in the credits But the one that goes into the mp3 file is half this size. So what it's 250 by 250 something like that? Yeah yeah Okay, well I do 400 by 400 and then I have a bigger size this size here Is what is the size on these things are pretty big so that's not going to work, so that's Eliminated immediately so the next one which I thought was very funny

45:58 First of all, we had this conversation about Miss Mickey's pap smear on the last show. So it is not going to work for this show This was very funny...this is Martin JJ He put this one up. The Gardasil is available in our office It's the horrible woman with a microscope and big orange glasses You know Martin JJ always picks up the memes and then he uses them in art which people should pay attention I don't know if he found this picture with this woman, these glasses on her or if he put the glasses on. Yeah, this is another problem we're always looking for original art and it can be a mashup but if the joke is not a mash up If you stole the joke were not going to use it yeah any stolen jokes were not using

46:41 For example, let's go down to the next group. We have Mike Shelby keeps sending us stuff that has art that is original art from someone else who is an artist or and kind of a cartoonist. Where do you see that? Where do you see Shelby? That's the one with the anonymous guy in there with Obama poster The posterized one in episode 4. Yeah, this is stuff we can't use! We can't use it it's like so... It will get sued. It's not original to the show that's more important Well the other thing is this has nothing to do with the show. We don't use this character as one of our characters This whatever guy fox mask and you know You could sense something but here's an example

47:23 So here's a good example. 481, and then we gotta move on but 481... We almost- did we choose this one for 481? Did we choose the cat food? No, okay here's the deal Thorin came in with this great cat food art And we were gonna use it But we ended up using a different piece Because The cat food pieces now being held as an evergreen because it is so funny Yeah, we used hey you stop asking questions. I'm not sure why we use that one uh? Think I think it was just because we really wanted to keep the cat food We're using from 480 yeah must have been so no I don't think we used did we use a you I don't think So you know what we should do John here's what we should do Here's a here's a thought I've been thinking about this for a while with whenever we

CHAPTER 10 / 35 Discussion

Show Production Strategy, End-of-Show Clips and Listener Retention

A debate occurs regarding the effectiveness of playing long audio clips at the very end of the podcast. One host argues that these clips cause listeners to log out of the chat room prematurely, potentially hurting donation momentum. The other host defends the practice, citing the quality of the content and the tradition of the show's format.

podcast production· listener donations· chat room· tech tv· c-span

48:17 the show whenever we have like an end of show clip here's what happens so we say goodbye and Then we start the end-of-show clip, and I can see 90% of the chat room logs out. They're done They don't even care about the end-of-show clip And I believe it hurts us and it hurts our donations because what you want is you want the show to end with us talking, boom done. But then your like uh but I want more! Not like some clip that you may not be interested in. I think we lose the immediacy of people saying oh but I have to support this show. End-of-show clips maybe detrimental I just some clips that we can't use in the show well, then we should just you know not unless You want to sit there for four minutes? No But we shouldn't use them at all is what I'm saying. Okay? I don't I've not as subscribing to this in one it I don't care I think the showed clips that we put at the end of this show like the one you did last week and they're good ones We'd been doing are very good clips okay there It's our show

49:16 I don't see anybody bitching to us about it. You're just assuming because these guys left a chat room Because they're not chatting anymore because we're not on the air that that somehow affects donations, and that's getting the connection well anyway I have suggestion is if we end the show and then we say goodbye And then we discuss title and artwork but we record that and release that as a file or as a part of the show I'm against it. You're against it? Yeah, I think our discussion about why we picked the art...I mean that's no-no I think it's gonna cut down our art contributions by a shot. Artists will be like hey man they talk about us like were A-holes! That's not good! No we don't do that! I don't want THAT! No I DON'T

50:09 I, you know what here's why. Here is what bothers me about the idea. I've never lied...I have always said they tried to do this at Tech TV once and it was on one of my shows and I just refused to do it Enough said! That was already that failed so okay It was like It comes from some of these shows on CNN where they finish, and it's all along we'll see you next week. And then they leave the mics up so what do you think about that? Then they start yacking while the credits are rolling. Oh yeah now your supposed to like bunch your papers up Yeah yeah that's all bull crap! Its a scam because their not yakking about it They want to go home but they just have to be sitting there while the credits roll

50:47 but they leave the mics up so it sounds like they're all there they're discussing what they talked about his bowl and i think this is a funny baloney thing to do that i don't like anyway i think we're going today i think we should do exactly that i think this is a great idea if you need will be closing credits with music and would just be talking about will be pretending to talk to each other why are down right now where were pretending to talk to each other i'd like it i think this is a great it's a very good idea Alright, anyway. So this gives you a bit of a clue. Make it so we can see the stuff when you shrink it. Yeah... I have way too many clips but we need to play most or all of them before we- Before we- I wanted to recommend that people go to C-SPAN and get the Enterprise Institute's little they did a review of the movie Zero Dark Thirty Excuse me do not have a producer to thank?

CHAPTER 11 / 35 Discussion

Producer Acknowledgments, Valued Cardholder and Donation Logistics

The hosts acknowledge a significant donation from an anonymous "Valued Cardholder" who contributed $575. They express frustration with the lack of identifying notes in some donation transactions and encourage supporters to use the "note to sender" box in PayPal to ensure their messages are read on air.

donations· executive producer· paypal· karma· value-for-value

51:47 Oh, that's right. For some reason we have one producer to thank unfortunately there is we don't know who it is our producers called valued cardholder that's going in the credits so how does someone become valued I can find any note from them valued card holder gave us 575 bucks which helped us show quite a bit but that's our only producer again we got one And I don't even know who it is. So maybe Valued Cardholder can send us an email, maybe they did but I didn't find it. I looked under no agenda donations as a subject line for all the emails couldn't find anything from Valued Cardholder and so yeah we have one to thank. Thank you Valued Cardholder!

52:32 Thank you very much. I'm sure you want us to do something besides, with a karma clip but don't know what it is we will do it later. I'll hang out of karma and absolutely. You've got Karma Him or her? Him or Her thank you very much and of course all of you out there who are apparently very broke and have absolutely no way to support us at the moment well you can always continue to propagate the formula get back to us later Our formula is this We go out We hit people in the mouth. Hey citizens, shut up! Go to devorek.org slash NA and consider us a track. It's very important. Everything is backward today what is going on? All of sudden you say In The Morning first and then... Yeah I know. And then we're back at it. This is not good. I have a bad feeling about this Well you should have a bad feeling about some of these clips

CHAPTER 12 / 35 Discussion

CIA Interrogation Panel, Michael Hayden and Jose Rodriguez

A C-SPAN panel featuring former CIA and NSA officials Michael Hayden, Jose Rodriguez, and John Rizzo is discussed. The officials defend their roles in the "enhanced interrogation" program, expressing concern that ongoing investigations and potential indictments create a "chilling effect" on national security operations. The panel is viewed as a public relations effort to preempt a forthcoming Senate Intelligence Committee report.

michael hayden· jose rodriguez· cia· nsa· enhanced interrogation

53:40 So you should go to C-SPAN and watch these the three guys who are what's in the show notes actually we have a link in the show notes to this at two three guys that are Are reviewing? The movie they're not but they were essentially taking questions and answers about enhanced interrogation because there's a report coming out the SSCI from the inspector general of the CIA And there, these three guys I'm gonna tell you who they are. One is the guy who was heading up the panel was this guy Mark Thiessen Who's apparently a speechwriter for Bush and Rumsfeld so he's a character right there And then Michael Hayden you remember? The director of the CIA in 2006 He does have the bald guy with the big cranium Yeah He also is the head of NSA from 1999 to 2005

54:32 right through the 9-11 crisis and before that he was a head of some Air Force intelligence. This guy has been in the military since the 70s and from what I can tell, except when he first started off you never had a real job. Watching him chat... He's the guy who definitely want to have a beer with He's got a gift to gab. You know you're never gonna be able to say a question here for a second Why does every single one of your almost every single one of your clips have the words Intel in front of it? Yeah, that's so I can sort them on my because there's when there's a lot I'm trying to find different methodologies for sorting the clips on this sheet when it's printed out So I can find the clip okay And so this is one of my true. I'm trying this new trick where by categorizing groups of Clips have you ever hit good trick

55:22 It's like you going up and down and up in that I say now we're gonna talk about the roaming bands of pirates. I don't see that What's it called? It's called roaming bands of pirates, right? You know you can you have trouble finding these clips too but now yeah But at least its alphabetical now everything is Intel Anyway, so let me go finish So we have Michael Hayden, and by the way so I'm thinking this guy's a great guy to have a beer with. I'd actually like to meet him but take a look at his background he's the guy who initiated all the no warrant wiretaps in the NSA and screw it and guess what he does now for living?

56:04 He's the principal at the Chertoff Group. He is the partner, he is like co-owner of that Michael Chertoff operation. Of course! Stupid scanners... Wait a minute let me set this straight so now this is a conversation about and The real slave interrogation apparatus for the true slaves of America. Yeah, okay? All right, that's irony is just too much yeah It is the other guy and you want to have a beer with him Regas now Jose Rodriguez was the clandestine service director from 2004 to 2008 and apparently was involved with all the torture that

57:00 took place even earlier. And he is a guy, you look at him and you don't... You definitely don't want to meet this kind of dark alley. He looks like somebody who would be the clandestine services director! And he has apparently gotten into huge beefs with Feinstein in the Senate, or the Senate Intelligence Committee. Right she approves the money that's why Well, she just doesn't like this guy and apparently he doesn't like her. And he just wrote a book, Rationalize... This whole thing that was irrational is... well let me give you the last guy. The last guy was Mike... who's John Rizzo the former CIA deputy counsel from 2004 to 2009 and he's the one who wrote most of the legal things about why it's okay to do what they're doing. Oh! So where is he working now?

57:47 It explained what they believed to be true in terms of the effectiveness of this interrogation and it had a lot of information that I think was little bit taken out of class. And, I realize what these three guys are doing is doing anything they can going out into public to cover their ass because they all are potentially war criminals Potentially. You mean by the... in my mind they are war criminals, it's not just potentially. They are war criminals. Well potentially I mean if they never...I mean they're war criminals to us our ways of thinking. Yes! They are out there really pounding the drum to such an extreme that it's like

58:33 You find out a couple of things. One, where the whole idea came from or what the rationale was I think is somewhat bogative but we can play a couple clips now and maybe a couple clips later but uh... i think to give away that they're fighting for their lives all three of these guys if you played the clip intel 101 going after you next I think you'll get a sense of, it's very interesting clip. Do you remember General Hayden at one point, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed told us, eventually your own government will come after you? And at the time this was 2003 and we had tremendous support from the Congress still then from American people

59:23 to make sure that we weren't attacked again. But we heard it, but we kind of laughed well the problem is that a few years later many of us you know were being investigated the agency was being investigated and the concern I have frankly, to this day is the chilling effect that it has on the leadership at the agency and elsewhere in the intelligence community who if tomorrow there is a big crisis and they say oh we're going to start X. And there is controversy in it and risk in it that people are going

1:00:02 Look what happened in the past. I mean despite the best efforts of John Rizzo and our directors, and my best efforts we still had to face a lot of investigations and a lot of bills and indictments and stuff...I mean I fear for the safety of our national security because of that. Maybe I'm overdoing it, but I have a great concern about it." Okay, let me summarize. This is Rodriguez I presume? Yes! And so what he's saying is if you look at the past everyone should be really worried and it's actually bad for national security because there are so many investigations and hearings and rules that people are hindered in doing their extremely important intelligence work primarily against the actual citizenry of the United States of America

CHAPTER 13 / 35 Discussion

Waterboarding Rationale, Abu Zubaydah and Religious Justification

Former CIA official Jose Rodriguez claims that high-value detainee Abu Zubaydah recommended waterboarding for other "brothers" to provide them with a religious excuse to cooperate without sinning. The officials argue that these techniques were not meant to elicit immediate information but to move detainees into a "zone of cooperation." This rationale is met with skepticism, suggesting the officials are rationalizing war crimes.

abu zubaydah· waterboarding· allah· khalid sheikh mohammed· gitmo

1:01:05 Because later on, you know you might get arrested and thrown in jail for doing something. So therefore it's a national security concern so we should ease up I guess on the agencies. Yeah back off dude! Back off okay got it Okay but now there is a lot of information in this people that watch this should watch because they'll find all kinds of cool stuff in there But here's the rationale where it all began. This is the clip, the rationale that Rodriquez discusses and then Hayden backs him up on this and I don't know if this is total bullcrap. There's so many ways you could take this information and decide it's bull crap or decide one guy was just a sicko, there's a lot of craziness but i've never heard this before. Tell the story that you have in your book about Abu Zubaydah and what he said to our interrogators after he was waterboarded It was interesting because Abu Zubaydah at one point

1:02:04 finally told us that we should use waterboarding in particular, but the enhanced interrogation program on all the brothers. And he said it because gave us the explanation and the explanation was that the brothers needed to have religious justification to talk, provide information and however they would not be expected capabilities or their resistance. So once they felt that they were there, they would then become compliant and provide information so he basically recommended to us that we needed to submit the brothers through this type of procedure if we wanted them to cooperate as a matter fact could help them

1:02:58 reach the level where they would become compliant and provide information. In order to do so without sin? Yes And I should add, this narrative was in my summer of 2006 was as Mark suggested trying to make judgments on the overall effectiveness of the program in the past and what would be a legitimate program going forward because circumstances had changed. And this narrative, this story was important for my own soul-searching on this. Because in other words I was not trying to prove the point that what we were doing was universally applicable

1:03:38 for all detainees, in all circumstances for all future crises. It was peculiarly well suited to this group I'm not really sure that two minutes brought any value to my life maybe i just didn't understand it Well maybe you didn't Explain the rationale was...I thought this is the best of clips by the way because it was kind insightful they are rationalizing that they did these guys a favor by waterboarding them. I didn't get that. You missed out, because that's exactly what he said! He said that here is the way it works they were...they waterboarded a guy now of course why they waterboarded the first guy that was never explained but they water board this Muslim guy and says you know this is the way to go

1:04:28 You should do this to all the brothers because it gives us an excuse in Allah's eyes to now talk. We didn't have the excuse before but Allah lets us talk if we're at some breaking point so you have to do this everybody, you just have to or your not going to get anything that is my advice to you So this is interesting John Is this perhaps the actual information that was blanked out at the Gitmo trial? That people were no hearing This is quite possible. You know, this is going on! All of a sudden the judge is not even... There's like some sensor in her back room who's pressing a button and you get white noise and red light goes on you can't hear anything can see anything that would make sense this may be the actual information

1:05:11 Well, whatever the case is I still don't know that if this was a rationale it was bullcrap or maybe the guy who's waterboarded was feeling like everyone else should get this miserable treatment. I don't know there were a couple of other little insights that came out on this one which is apparently they took this to heart because when you hear this Hayden clip which we did not ask them questions replay this clip and tell me what you think about But for about a third, techniques were used. Not to elicit again information in the moment but to take someone who had come into our custody absolutely defiant and move them into a state or zone of cooperation whereby and then you recall the scene in the movie after the detainee is cleaned up and they're having this lengthy conversation for the rest of the detention

1:06:06 And in some cases, it's years. It's a conversation. It's a debriefing. Kind of reflexively say don't know they'll say anything to make you stop which may actually be true. That's why we didn't ask them questions Okay, so having seen the movie that's very interesting so what he's saying is He said that's not how torture works You idiot it not like you sit there and you hammer them and you hammer them until they finally say okay? No, no you you waterboard them And then you serve them lunch

1:06:50 he said, that's what he said. But that is exactly what they did in the movie! They served him lunch I'm not kidding The redhead and other dude. These guys backed up the movie except for one thing they thought there was a box involved? They say the box is roomier than that That's the only thing they said that was a critique And also critiqued the storyline because which is longer...I can just tell you what it will be What they said Yeah It's shorter then the clip but they said that woman was a composite Yeah, and yeah, what's a woman like that in the CIA? I mean, I'm kind of officious. I'm so in I so want to be in the CIA now She is so smoking hot and he said though with the other woman which I guess was in cost I didn't see the movie but it's the other woman that was there guess her nemesis yeah

1:07:36 they said that was totally bogus, the other woman was just like her, like the composite character and he says for the first time in movie history the actress was uglier than the real woman who is a gorgeous babe apparently also very much of one these officious bureaucrats so all three were upset about the portrayal of that one woman who is apparently a very good person But when I heard this hate clip, here's what my image was. They're waterboarding the guy but we did not ask questions? What do you do? You getting waterboarded and going hey! I'll talk, I'll talk. No no no. John hold on a second think about it for a second that we have been conditioned and programmed by movies primarily

1:08:29 That's how it works. We have ways of making you talk and that, you know You pull your fingernails out and all that and that you know All of a sudden you're bleeding and you're hanging upside down like okay I'll tell ya tell you everything now no I think that was probably one of the most realistic things in the movie is you know, put the guy in a box. You electrify his nuts. You waterboard him and then serve him lunch! Absolutely like hey man this is a nice lunch because it's the scene in the movie he literally And I says good. She's like you have some more of goop and have some more than nut stuff that you like Serving them all the girl this time he's like alright. Yeah, I got lots of stuff it makes total sense I think that is probably extremely realistic we need hey I know that We've got all kinds of people in military listening to this show confirm this will ya? I'm thinking that that makes a lot of sense

CHAPTER 14 / 35 Discussion

Al-Qaeda Status, Osama Bin Laden and Global Terrorism

The claim that Al-Qaeda was effectively destroyed following the death of Osama bin Laden is debated. While some officials assert the organization is dead, others point to various regional groups in Africa and the Middle East as evidence of its continued existence. The discussion suggests that many modern "Al-Qaeda" affiliates are independent organizations with little to no actual connection to the original group.

al-qaeda· osama bin laden· mukhtar belmokhtar· sudan· terrorism

1:09:25 Well, Hayden makes a long exposition on why you do it this way. But anyway he also... but the other thing that I got out of this actually I got to bunch of stuff out of this idea This is really intriguing me I want you to play this clip, because there's two or three examples of this throughout the show. But play the Al-Qaeda is dead first reference clip and then i want to tell you what else went on in this thing You know the movie is about the hunt for Bin Laden It focuses on the information that led to bin laden but there was a lot more to this story and that is the destruction of al qaeda And the enhanced interrogation program was key

1:10:09 in destroying Al-Qaeda. Bin Laden came ten years later, in the meantime we had a number of terrorists that were coming after us with plots and we were able to capture them kill them destroy the plots wrap him up because this program And see that, who was I talking to? Because that guy's full of crap. That's Rodriguez. No he is not, this is full of crap This isn't how it went down. No no, I'm not talking about that part. I am talking about his reference to Al Qaeda being dead. This happens throughout this debate with the three guys. Al Qaedas dead they killed Al Qaeda

1:10:49 Why does Obama and the group that's running things now claim Al-Qaeda is not dead? I've always been convinced that when they killed Osama, that was the end of al Qaeda. Now it's just other organizations and there is no affiliation between them You were actually convinced of something Yeah! Oh please. Well, okay I wasn't totally convinced but it's... But I don't buy that every time we turn around that some guy in the... like that crazy Muktar Muktar character in The Sudan has any affiliation he's been around forever That guy predates Al Qaeda himself Alright alright I just got to step back and just say that none of this

CHAPTER 15 / 35 Discussion

Drone Warfare, Human Intelligence and KSM

The shift from capturing and interrogating detainees to utilizing drone strikes for targeted killings is examined. Former intelligence officials argue that "vaporizing" targets with drones prevents the collection of valuable human intelligence. The discussion also references the capture of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (KSM) and the psychological tactics used during his detention.

drones· human intelligence· khalid sheikh mohammed· cia· target killing

1:11:28 None of this is like, there's no real Islamist rebels who are running around burning it. This is all... they've all been trained instigated brainwashed by us! By us to do this by the CIA, by the interest of the American citizenry That's what that's what this is all about go and go blow up stuff. Go make it difficult so we can move in yeah, no I Subscriber to that obviously and the other thing out of this Was and I never thought about this? I think I did think about it, but I didn't realize Play the drone question and the dead guy And then I got two of these and it just fascinates me that

1:12:13 I don't know what, well i haven't concluded this but now now I get it after listening to these characters. We won after 9-11 we had a lethal program to get the people who had done this to us but we also had a program uh... to gets in these people live and find out what we know that's in there in this situation is not optimal you want to kill terrorists but it's not always optimal to kill terrorists that seems to me right now our policy is to vaporize all the intelligence with drones Is that an optimal situation? Yeah. Well, certainly in the wake of the immediate aftermath of 9-11 attacks when we were frantically, if you know any word I can describe it, trying to pull together a program that would elicit the information that our experts were convinced debate and his colleagues were keeping from us.

1:13:07 I can tell you, I was there from the beginning through the end of the program in 08-09. CIA is an intelligence collection organization first and foremost so it's always been in the agency's institutional DNA to want to collect intelligence from all sorts of, by all sorts of means. Especially human intelligence You can't collect human intelligence from a dead guy So they say that Obama killed the program and they also put a bunch of laws in place where you can't collect anybody anymore. You can't go to Afghanistan and grab some guy you know is a bad guy this is what reason we always say why they keep blowing these guys up with the drones because they can't capture them if you do, you're gonna be on this war crimes... I'm sorry the word is collect. I heard very distinct the word is collect

1:14:04 collect. You can't collect these people like you used to, like butterflies. I need to go connect them like he used to and then throw him in some hellhole forever without due process. You can't do that anymore because somebody said hey this isn't a good thing so they stopped doing that but But they apparently kept collecting. They still have these guys are getting intelligence about and so they just blow them to smithereens! And all three of these guys are really upset about that because they'd much rather collect the guy and torture him or... That's much more fun, come on it's more entertaining I mean other it's just well apparently what happened according to Hayden after the word was out what they were doing that people would just start talking immediately

1:14:51 with it. Oh, that's no fun? That wasn't going to be much fun anyway but there was one little thing I thought was that there was another reveal here with Rodriguez who says he took this is this the the chatterboxes clip he apparently the biggest talker was that guy they caught in remember that one guy with a hairy chest even his hair is all messed up that character Apparently this guy really delivered the goods I guess. He probably doesn't want to go back into the population. Which, wait a minute did you see the movie?

1:15:28 No. Well, how do you say you remember the guy with the hairy chest? That's the guy... don't you remember when he was captured in the year 2004 or whenever they got him in Pakistan and it was in you know and he had a hairy chest yeah is a hairy-chested guy The funniest thing on the internet at that time was people were replacing his head with Rosie O'Donnell's head Hold on a second! Hairy chested Al Qaeda Hold on a second. I don't know he's got a skivvy shirt on he's got a mustache He's got his hair is a mess, and it looks like they woke him up apparently let me just see this Name is in this clip if you play we look them up afterwards And in many cases I think that the chatroom idea Tom Selleck was that his name? That they had reached the point where they felt they could talk

1:16:20 And then once they reached that point, now these are very egomaniac people. They got big huge egos and they can't wait to tell you how evil they are So they just started talking like Khalid Sheikh Mohammed he wouldn't stop That's him Oh KSF, alright Also the psychological issue of the big egos and wanting to tell you I think played into our hands after a while because they would just want to tell us everything. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, okay now i know what your talking about well just say KSM! You say KSM then I know what your talking about. I forgot the KSM thing yeah he was in picture on him on the internet with the skivvy shirt on

1:17:04 And then the joke was you put Rosie O'Donnell's head on that. Look up KSM on Google, there is some band. Some Disney band! Good work Disney! These guys are also full of crap. They're smoking their own dope in this, you know? Absolutely! I'm not in any denial on that. They have made up their story they're sticking with it... No they're freaked out about this report that's coming out and they're bitching about it. And the one point that one guy did make... No, no! Hold on before you continue Yes So they have to twist This is what always happens with lies They have to make new lies to cover up the lies that are already in their report which are lies The whole thing is bull crap so there's no wonder there's a Disney band called KSM because the whole thing is Disney It's all make-believe None of this is really happening I mean yeah people getting killed There's dudes showing up or whatever

CHAPTER 16 / 35 Discussion

Waterboarding Statistics, Journalists and Military Training

A panelist on C-SPAN notes the irony that more journalists have undergone voluntary waterboarding to prove it is torture than there are actual terrorists who have been subjected to the procedure. Additionally, it is mentioned that thousands of U.S. servicemen undergo waterboarding as part of their survival training, making them the primary group currently experiencing the technique.

waterboarding· journalists· u.s. military· interrogation· c-span

1:18:06 But this is- This is all... Someone has to go down and it might as well be these a-holes. That's fine with me, go! So... so... So there was this guy who's the host, he is really sympathetic to these guys and their plight. And they're in a jam in fact and they did make one point that Rodriguez says hey there are reports coming out and nobody ever talked to any of us about it They've never been interviewed for the report which again makes... Unnecessary! They just talk to the script writers They don't need to talk to these guys There was some ironic aspect

1:18:43 to comment the guy who's the host, the guy who is running the panel. He chimes in... you know every once in a while if your a panel guy your either going to talk a lot or not gonna talk at all but you don't just talk one time because he chimes in and I just thought this was a poignant observation where he talks about whose being war- this is the clip everyone gets waterboarded One of the startling statistics in looking at this is that there are actually more journalists who have had themselves waterboarded to prove it's torture than there are actually terrorists who have been waterboarded. Almost an equal number of lawyers too!

1:19:26 What did he say there in the background? Almost an equal number of lawyers. No, seriously! That's a good start In order to offer a judgment on this I want to be able to experience it For the record that was not me I wasn't quite prepared to go that far in my legal research, but there was a lawyer in our office who was closely monitoring the program on day-to-day basis who in fact agreed to do that. And tens of thousands of American servicemen have been waterboarded and I think right now the only people we still water board are Americans in uniform so waterboarding continues just not of terrorists Wait wait wait he said we water board Americans in uniform?

1:20:11 What? I just thought that was so funny. Wait, wait... He said we- I heard that correctly right he said yeah Yeah and by the way all we only waterboard our own people Hold on, hold on Oh my goodness We only water board our own people That's clip of the century Well there you go! There you go that makes it Listen And I want to move onto something else this is really good but we've got a diversify little bit here I think, I think i made my point. No your point is well-made. I'd like to make my point okay Osama bin Laden and Wahiri what's his name? Waziri? I don't know. KSM. Not KSM. Wahiri. It's a girl band by the way Both of these guys were sick okay

CHAPTER 17 / 35 Discussion

China's Global Influence, Bin Laden DNA and Stealth Tech

A theory is presented suggesting that China protected high-ranking Al-Qaeda leaders in exchange for regional stability and access to resources. The 2011 raid on Osama bin Laden's compound is characterized as a deal where the U.S. exchanged stealth helicopter technology for Bin Laden's DNA. This geopolitical maneuvering is linked to the current conflict in Africa and efforts to remove Chinese influence from the continent.

china· africa· bin laden· dna· stealth helicopters

1:21:06 The Chinas, you'll notice one thing. The Chinas are everywhere. The Chinas are in Africa the Chinas are in Syria the Chinas are everywhere there's minerals oil or some pass-through or people are hungry for soup So that's where the Chinas are. You notice how Al-Qaeda is never attacking the Chinas? Have you ever noticed that? Okay, first of all Al-Qaeda is a CIA and they'd be stupid to attack their China but let's just say there are some amped up guys who have been promised something like oh we'll go on an attack... They're not going do it The reason why is the China had bin Laden They had al-Wahiri What was his name?

1:21:51 No, no Hank don't. It's important what his name is? Zawahiri that guy they had him they had both of them they were taking care of them and died in their custody and because they were taking care of them that's why Al Qaeda never did anything to the Chinese Now when it was time for this to come down, when Obama needed something he needed a win. And remember we're pretty convinced that this win there was not the timing they wanted they wanted to use at different times. They exchanged these so-called stealth helicopter technology for Bin Laden DNA okay? That's why Obama said oh! We've got the DNA which you know did that in like two hours. This is second half of show stuff. No no screw it this is reality second half of the show is crazy

1:22:40 This, that MKUltra. This is not second half of the show John I'm rejecting that this is what's really this is what really went down The Chiners gave...this why we have no pictures there's no video well we have all kinds of pictures and video everything in the world except for this which would be... No also except for the school Yeah that second half of the show get to that so now we're not going back to that again are we? So they exchange the DNA for these stealth helicopter technology And it was a wash. Okay? And now, now that that's all done, not they have nothing to hold over the Islamists or whoever this the Al-Syieda can make crazy Now that's why all bets are off That's why we're going crazy in Africa

1:23:26 and why we're kicking the Chiners out. The Chiners never should have given up the Bin Laden DNA, that's what went down these guys they are Disney I mean were the animatronics were they like jerking their limbs when they were moving this whole thing is total total theater and it's sad you know actors sometimes get bumped off the show and these guys are on deck as far as i'm concerned so one of these babes in this band KSM It's really amazingly hot. She's gonna be hold on let me see this chaos. He's gonna be big She's gonna be bigger than Miley Cyrus or Britney Spears if she plays her cards, right? Let me see this case in there I'll tell you what I think of this which I think these girls have already come and gone I don't think though they play instruments one girl's got to make a move on our long-term career Which one again anyway the one with the spiky hair at uh

CHAPTER 18 / 35 Discussion

Queen Beatrix Abdication, Prince Willem-Alexander and Bilderberg

Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands announced her abdication, set for April 30, 2013, passing the throne to her son, Prince Willem-Alexander. The royal family's ties to the Bilderberg Group, founded by Prince Bernhard, are noted. The transition is discussed in the context of the "New World Order" agenda and the public's continued support for the monarchy.

queen beatrix· netherlands· prince willem-alexander· bilderberg group· abdication

1:24:18 which one i don't know what you picture no now they want to spike here this is a brunette there are really kind of bushy eyebrows she's really not all right she's in the middle well it depends on the picture and i like forty pictures he's over here she's over then as a straight shot ever think they'll be just type in ksn hit images she's in the third row in the middle had i don't know why even got me to look that's pretty sad it is your just pathetic And then there's some army guy in the middle of these images. It's funny Anyway, big news John very very big news and get more nation lowlands I could not have gotten more emails about any other topic than this the Queen Beatrix she has abdicated Yes, she heard this yes well There are some interesting little news a moment of excitement no sadness yet and she has just passed

1:25:08 announced the date for her official abdication and that will be on the 30th of April tying in with Queen's Day which is the most chaotic celebration in The Netherlands so this year it's going to be even more so I think because Everyone here is hugely excited. The Prime Minister has just been on television after the Queen, paying tribute to her 33 year service and we're expecting a lot more of those tributes to come I love it when they throw it in my face! Thirty-three years... Oh that's very funny No no thats not funny, its uh... I will remind you that

1:25:48 I remind you that it is of course the Bilderberg group is from the Netherlands set up by her father Prince Bernard. She was married to a Nazi, the whole family is... The whole thing is frightening and now of course a prince beer as we call him in Holland. Prince Beer? Well they call him Prince Pilce, Pilces is a pilsner that's slang for... That's beer. They call him Prince Pilce so he's because he likes these... He's a drunk basically he's a slobbering fat oaf of a drunk and they hooked him up with Zorineta's daughter, Zorineta of course war criminal from Argentina

1:26:29 and so he had to marry her. She's smoking by the way, I mean it'll look great for her as Queen and He will be moving the elitist New World Order agenda forward now. Now he is in charge of water management like the UN Water Management Office or some crap like that So, they're just moving the agenda forward. I don't understand why people still put up with that? Why do they put up with the Queen? They're celebrating and they're gonna celebrate! It goes beyond my belief that you think... It's a party. That an old lady or her son, that they are special and above everybody How can you even think of living in modern times People tell me I'm crazy that I don't think we landed on the moon Yet they are very happy to say Oh the queen is great Are you kidding me?!

CHAPTER 19 / 35 Discussion

Wonder Woman Archive, Forbidden Chinese News and Media

A brief clip from the original Wonder Woman television series is played, followed by a mention of a new program titled "Forbidden Chinese News." This show reportedly documents corruption within the Chinese government, though the hosts note the difficulty of following the content due to the language barrier and subtitle issues.

wonder woman· china· corruption· media· subtitles

1:27:29 The Queen is the best. She's the ruler of the land! I mean, come on! How can you be celebrating the queen if... Nah, nah nah nah. I'm sorry. It just makes me nuts On a lighter note Yeah? I have a clip Okay This is from the old Wonder Woman series Wonder Woman vs The Nazis Oh What makes you so strong on paradise island there are only women Because of this pure environment We are able to develop our minds and our physical skills unhampered by masculine destructiveness stop Such information is rubbish That reminds me of this clip that I played just before the show started

1:28:27 And here we go now! I'll have that one linked in the show notes. It's pretty good So somewhere along the lines, I lost a clip but it's ridiculous to play it But there is a new show on one of the crazy channels thats buried over the air band called Forbidden Chinese News And it's essentially just outlining and documenting all this weird corruption going on in China.

1:29:11 and it's unfortunate in Chinese with subtitles of the clip is in Chinese. Right, right... But anyway but its interesting So you're teasing me with this clip that you don't have? Yeah I just thought to do that for your benefit Oh thats great well then let me... I got the clip on the porno teacher Well no why dont we do something interesting for a minute here? You're out of control with your clips. Like I don't have anything? Like, I showed up to the party with no marshmallows? No! Go. This better be good Okay this is uh... Christy Hefner Christy Hefner is the lesbian daughter of Hugh Hefner

CHAPTER 20 / 35 Discussion

Christy Hefner, Climate Change and Gun Control

Christy Hefner, former CEO of Playboy Enterprises, is criticized for a television appearance where she linked the gun control crisis to climate change. Similarly, Time Magazine science editor Jeffrey Kluger is discussed for his stance on anthropogenic global warming, comparing skeptics to "flat earthers." The hosts argue that these narratives are used to marginalize dissenting scientific opinions.

christy hefner· playboy· climate change· gun control· time magazine

1:29:53 And she's running the Playboy Empire. Singularly ruined the Playboy Empire Yes, yes she did single-handedly and here she is speaking about of course the only topic on American television at the moment about guns and she ties it into something beautiful. Climate change effect that is driving that shut up already. Wow That's the clip of the day no, no No, and I want you to have your little glorious moment with all you've all the work You did let me take you to um, that's unbelievable Let's tie it on

1:30:42 Let's put in some other bullcrap while we're at it. Well here we have Jeffrey Kluger. So another, wait a minute so what she is saying if you solve the global... It will solve the gun crisis! It solves the gun problem. Exactly! Move everybody to Alaska. That's perfect Here is Jeff Kluger who was the science editor of Time magazine Time magazine and well, you know he basically has to I mean if you're a science editor at time You gotta be on board with the AGW with the man-made global warming. You have to get fired. Yes, see with these fluctuations

1:31:23 Any further dispute among the scientific community that what we're dealing with is a result of global warming? What could the answer to that be? Hmm, I don't know. Do you think he'll buy into it? You think he's still on board with the... do you think he'll call someone out? I'm so curious Well, I think of the folks who are the climate deniers as flat earthers and people who say moon landings never happened At some point, the body of scientific knowledge becomes so overwhelming that if you're denying it you're sort of willfully excluding yourself from the big people's table. I'm not a big people's table! Where conversations take place and i do think that argument that this is a hoax, that this has ginned up... That's really been demolished. Shut up already. It's science

1:32:16 So in other words, let me think. Oh I don't know there's a bunch of like Freeman Dyson the famous physicist he thinks is bullshit Yes And there's a million you know got very prominent scientists who think that there's a lot of flaws in the way This is being handled and the whole thing they need science never they are not exact science They're no longer at the table Rosie O'Donnell now Rosie O'Donnell but Joy Behar we had that clip of a couple years ago She went on a rampage about how it It's a known fact because she is an expert. She is a scientist, this whole thing it just sickening. There we go on I'm sorry. So you know there is this video that people keep sending to me and you can stop sending them and the video is of a guy

CHAPTER 21 / 35 Discussion

Moon Landing Skepticism, NASA Data Loss and Listener Feedback

The hosts address persistent listener emails regarding the validity of the Apollo moon landings. They express frustration with videos claiming to prove the landings through the analysis of 1960s television technology. The discussion notes that NASA and the BBC reportedly lost much of the original high-quality footage from the era, fueling further skepticism.

moon landing· nasa· bbc· television broadcast· skepticism

1:33:08 who apparently is some kind of movie expert and he goes for like 45 minutes, I have to watch the whole thing showing us why the technology didn't exist to create the hoax television broadcast. And people are so adamant that this proves that we landed on the moon it boggles my mind! It really does... So something that was shown on television That is being debunked or is being proven to be real, mean... Real television means that we landed on the moon. The science behind that boggles my mind and you can please stop sending that to me and stop... So you don't think they landed on the moon the first time but you think they landed on the moon subsequently? Well I... They went up there a dozen times

1:33:59 How many times have they landed on the moon? I don't know, eight nine. I'm not sure three. I don't know i'm asking you Well, I don't not planning to debate that moon landing when it when is the last time we landed on The moon it was well if we haven't landed on the moon for a hundred years It seems 50 Yeah there you go. I'm agreeing with you right fifty years Fifty i'm not even fifty so anyway My point is, do not send me a link to this video anymore because it does not prove that we landed on the moon. It's about a television broadcast of which no original material is available anymore. It has all been lost. NASA lost it, the BBC lost it... How did you lose that by the way? Yeah well, you lose it when there's a reason to lose it

1:34:48 But just please don't sell that send that to me anymore, please people like you have you have to discuss this You have to this is proof. It's fact no it's not we have a lot of listeners that don't like us Yeah i'm getting pretty tired of it quite honestly I'm getting tired of everything although it could be just the vocal A very vocal few That whose job it is to harass harangue what doesn't agree with their life's vision of things. Well I think that these are the people that are coming into the show and... They're the ones in a chat room, people! Some. A lot of it is this type of person who says, I don't agree with everything you say Oh yeah, that's the classic. That's the person This is on the same league as You People

CHAPTER 22 / 35 Discussion

Media Industry Shakeups, CNN Firing and Fox News

A major restructuring at CNN is detailed, including the departures of long-time commentators James Carville and Mary Matalin. Soledad O'Brien is also reportedly leaving her morning slot, to be replaced by Aaron Burnett. The hosts speculate on the future of these media personalities and note a trend at Fox News toward hiring more legally-trained commentators.

cnn· james carville· soledad o'brien· fox news· aaron burnett

1:35:38 You people. I don't know about that. No, the kind of person that's a you people they're generalizing. I don't agree with it. Yes there is a phrase they all use it Although I don't agree with everything you say. I don't agree with everything you say Or my favorite, I don't agree with most of what you say yeah But yeah they agree with the one thing and then they mention that as some sort of we should go in that direction or something? I don't know what to deal is well. I feel that I'm a bit discouraged because I feel that we are losing our A lot of people good people, but we are losing them into they're getting sucked in I mean they it's it's all around us You know what? I mean It's like that. I've had the TV off for the last couple of days Mickey and I had made a decision We said no more television during breakfast just no more

1:36:30 It's so much healthier. You know of course I'm watching for the show Yeah, I need to see the narrative etc.. But it makes your skin crawl you know I just I can feel it I can feel the it's like reaching out and sucking me in you don't mean we don't have well You're watching those crummy movies No, I'm not talking about the movie. I'm just television by itself no the movies the movie I can handle is You know, because I'm a little more in control of the experience and now I think... And I'm waiting for it. And I know what's coming. I know what to look for but you know when stuff is presented on television as fact and it's just like it's not said none of it Just none of it Not a single bit Well well I avoid

1:37:23 I could probably watch less television myself. Uh, I tend to still watch probably C-SPAN and the news uh... The Fox and MSNBC people looking for people screaming. Ed Schultz is my favorite. You see? I can't watch any of that. By the way did you hear about the big... They gave us a Rachel Maddow clip the other day! Yeah, but people send me stuff. I mean that's not all just me watching there is a big shake-up by the way at CNN yeah no i know that's been going on for awhile. No, no firing everybody. But now we have some names so Carville and his wife Marilee Matlin they've been fired

1:38:04 They have a show? Well, they were always the...they're always on as commentators. Oh they're fired as commentators? Yeah so they just fired. They are just out no more. But their terrible! Yeah there has been I totally agree So i wonder where they gonna show up Let's see Eric Erickson Never heard of him Influential it says conservative commentator and red state editor Eric Erickson he is leaving Going to talking points memo. This is so incestuous It's just a whole bunch of turds floating around in the same pot Swirling around the bowl So Aaron Burnett is going to do a morning show that will replace Soledad O'Brien, so Soledad is out Yeah I don't know if she's out like kicked off that's unclear She's been bounced from network to network she started off as the

1:39:03 go-to girl on NBC when we knew or at least when I knew her yeah and she was wearing for MSNBC and she was on the fast track to become an anchor of you know something rather and then they dumped her or she went something she quit. I don't know what happened, they found some other multi culty looking woman which is what they were after. I think Soledad just sucks! She's just no good And she just doesn't have the right attitude. You know where she would do well? She would do well at Fox, they should send her...she should go to Fox! I mean it doesn't matter you can just be...she's confrontational in a snooty way that doesn't fit with the CNN family

1:39:40 Yeah, I'd say that you're correct and she probably would fit on it Fox and Fox is also having a shakeup They're bringing in brunettes. Oh really? Oh this is new what happened to blondes what's wrong with blonds? I don't know but every new person I've seen there's been a brunette And I think a lot of it has to do with this woman Gilfoyle the one with the legs yeah used to be married to the mayor of San Francisco as she's a prosecutor mm-hmm and She's just got drop dead, bare legs. It's important you need I think a law degree is very important half the people have to women on the Fox network and got law degrees yeah they're weird uh... yeah well there is a shake up taking place it's going to happen they are losing their asses there's no money if we can't get those numbers up so the president had a whole speech

CHAPTER 23 / 35 Discussion

Immigration Enforcement, National Databases and Healthcare

President Obama's speech in Las Vegas regarding immigration reform is analyzed, specifically his call for a national system to verify employment status. The hosts express concern that such a database would be prone to errors and could be used for broader government surveillance. The discussion links this to ongoing frustrations with the healthcare system and the limitations of insurance networks.

immigration· barack obama· e-verify· database· healthcare

1:40:37 about Actually, he went to Lost Wages Nevada and to talk about immigration and I have some Red Book prediction here. I pulled a 30-second clip that I think is relevant as to what is because that's what's next we have so We've gotten health care right? I'm sorry healthcare insurance which of course has skyrocketed rates. Ms Mickey is like, she's trying to find another doctor because she doesn't want to go the nut job with the orange glasses who immediately was like well it's going to be $200 over your co-pay blah blah blah that one so you know she's calling around what did we get? I'm sorry we don't accept Blue Cross Blue Shield

1:41:24 What? That's the one that is most accepted. No, it has to be... no. It's not gonna be! Not the good ones. Now if you want it if you want to get some Xanax that's easy and get that with Blue Cross Blue Shield You wanna have a nice doctor who can actually communicate with or talk to you now I'm sorry but that out of network what happened to you can use your doctor when does this Obamacare thing happen I'm ready for that I'm ready. I'm ready to be able to use our own doctor can't wait to see how true that is That's not gonna work The whole system is broken it needs to be fixed with single payer so

1:42:02 So now we have of course the gun legislation which is as we know was related to insurance, which is also related to insanity. Which is related to drugs? Which is back to the big pharmaceutical one left okay We've got immigration good finally there's another thing he can do for his legacy first I believe we need to stay focused on enforcement that means continuing to strengthen hold on stop You have to start that clip over again. It threw me out of my chair when he blurted out first with that authority that I... First! Pile everybody first! Oh, I got it. I nailed it. If I say pile everybody first then I can do it. Pile everybody first! First! I believe we need to stay focused on enforcement. That means continuing the strengthen security at our borders

1:42:55 It means cracking down more forcefully on businesses that knowingly hire undocumented workers. To be fair, most businesses want to do the right thing but a lot of them have hard time figuring out who's here legally and who is not so we need to implement a national system that allows business to quickly and accurately verify someone's employment status. That sounds like a database to me Does that not sound like yet another thing where I'm... Isn't everything this administration is trying to do involve a database? Yeah, but it's- Which by the way people should know from anyone who knows anything about databases. They're always screwed up! You'll get some phony piece of info or you cross reference with somebody else and it will ruin your life!

1:43:38 No, but this is like now you have to know what I do. What's it going to say next to me? Unemployed Self-employed? I mean what is he gonna say? Yeah, its gonna say unemployed low FICA score Scrounger It's not gonna be good ODD qualifies for several points on the DSMS scale Right I might as well just pack it in! I should just become the unibomber That's that's gonna be better Okay, now here's the one that really got me. So did you know that we just gave $155 million to Syria for Syrian aid?

CHAPTER 24 / 35 Discussion

Syrian Aid Package, Obama's Pronunciation and NGOs

The U.S. government announced a $155 million aid package for Syria, intended for food, clean water, and immunizations. President Obama's video statement on the aid is scrutinized for his pronunciation of Syrian cities like Homs. The hosts question the transparency of how these funds are distributed through international partners and non-governmental organizations (NGOs).

syria· bashar al-assad· humanitarian aid· barack obama· linguistics

1:44:18 Yeah, I think i didn't know that. I thought it was for tanks but okay... I got some questions here so here's the president statement which was captioned in subtitles in Arabic Nearly two years the Assad regime has waged a brutal war against the Syrian people In case you didn't know just all of you Arabs out there 2 years have been shit Murdering innocent men women and children in their homes in bread lines and at universities Now just listen to the words Wait wait wait! In their homes? In their homes in bread lines. Oh, yeah in the bread lines yes Let's shoot the bread line it's a breadline let's shoot it up so there was an instance of people standing at the bakery Trying to buy some bread and they got blown up Of course by you know terrorists not by Assad regime by the terrorists who were destabilizing the entire region And so that's now breadlines and in universities

1:45:14 In the face of this barbarism, the United States has joined with nations around the world in calling for an end to the Assad regime and a transition that leads to a peaceful inclusive and democratic Syria where the rights all Syrians are protected. We've worked isolate Assad and his regime impose sanctions that starve the regime of funds recognize the Syrian opposition coalition as legitimate representative of the Syrian people call for accountability for perpetrators of atrocities. Perpetrators of atrocities, write this down! This is important stuff. Perpetrators of atrocities and provide humanitarian relief to Syrians in need I have a question before we get to it so if we're going to uh and by the way it's very interesting in the um uh the memorandum for the secretary of state on the white house website

1:46:04 It says 15 million, not a hundred and fifty-five million. So I don't know if there's a mistake somewhere... well obviously there is a mistake but I don't know where the mistake has been made But, you know... $155 million. So what? Do we just send a hundred and fifty five million dollars on pallets? Do we send one of those giant checks like the lottery? I mean where does this go? Where does this money goes like hey people! It's like the lottery guy shows up. The relief we send doesn't say made in America Oh it says Chase Or JP Morgan or Bank of America maybe. But make no mistake, our aid reflects the commitment of the American people. American Aid means food and clean water for millions of... Hold on a second!

1:46:51 I think you may have just trivialized what actually there's something fishy about this. Yeah, and this is... But it doesn't say Chase or JP Morgan it's saying obviously he wouldn't have made the second clause saying don't make no mistake we're blah blah blah It seems as though this money is going in some roundabout way that would be an embarrassment if we knew what it was Well, it's pretty old. Yes. Scandal operation that maybe Obama's people are is part of through Chicago? Well this is the whole NGO culture which I'm really starting to get extremely annoyed with so you know when so we all feel great oh oh we're helping the Syrian people 155 million dollars that's why I say does it should does someone go and say hey yo Syrians here's your check

1:47:44 No, you know that's not what happens. So the president is saying it's not made in America so let's listen a little further. Our aid reflects the commitment of the American people American aid means food and clean water for millions of Syrians. So what are we doing? We're dropping sandwiches, we spraying water I mean or does this money magically make water flow in everyone's house? American aid means medicine and treatment for hundreds of thousands of patients in Damascus, Dara'a and Oms Now listen very closely. It means immunizations for one million Syrian children Oh, they're good. Finally we got some immunization So what? We can't even get journalists in there Some doctor's going to go in and shoot kids up American aid means winter supplies for more than half a million people in Aleppo Homs and Deir ez-Zor

1:48:39 And we're working with allies and partners so that this aid reaches those in need. Ah, there you go! Allies and partners... It's another money scam? Okay now here is what you didn't hear Did you hear our president has a problem with the letter H Now we determined this on the previous show where he messed up and said I'm honoured. He's honoured! So in the space of two, in the space of 30 seconds he said ohms and then he said homes. He doesn't know when or how to pronounce a word that has an H in it let's review

1:49:15 I'm honored and humbled to continue to serve as your president. So that's the last episode, I'm honored and humbled to serve as your president now this week. Patients in Damascus Daraa and ohms. Ohms, now he says ohms but wait! But wait! But wait! It means winter supplies for more than half a million people in Aleppo, ohms and Deir ez-Zor And now he says homes No, he still said kind of ohms He says homes and you can see it when you see the video You can see his face grimace like OH NO NOT H AGAIN I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THE H IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME I think its just the one Obama The other guy is fine with it

1:49:56 I'm honored and humbled to continue to serve as your president. I'm telling you the President has an H problem He has an issue with the letter H We need to find a Sesame Street episode for him it helps him understand when at the H is silent, I betcha I betcha there's uh There's maybe something in the DSM for this Yeah, yes, do we disease atrophobia? I'm gonna show my school by donating to no agenda imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fun I don't know what the deal is with my microphone stand but it unscrews itself oh

CHAPTER 25 / 35 Discussion

Centennial Swazzlenuff Donations, Listener Letters and Karma

The hosts read a series of letters from donors celebrating the "Centennial Swazzlenuff" (the 100th episode since the meme's inception). Listeners from around the world, including Denmark, China, and Australia, contribute varying amounts and request "karma" for personal life events such as job searches and surgeries. The "value-for-value" model is praised by several contributors as an alternative to traditional media.

donations· swazzlenuff· value-for-value· karma· listener stories

1:50:47 We have a few people to thank. A lot of people, not as many as I'd hoped but we did break the record for 6969 is the celebration at The 100th show where 6969s come up and we have 33 of them Really? No no wait... We have 33 Swazzlenuffs? Yeah Yo you've got to be kidding bro That's the magic number It is! Interesting It's the magic number Very interesting. Yes, that's what I thought it would be 35 if Michael Schumacher who's at the top of this from Rancho Cucamonga hadn't doubled up he gave us 139 38 which is a schwoz enough times two Sorry dudes have been slacking on the donations like everyone else obviously I'm an IT slave and have been dealing with year-end and auditors from three governmental institutions Okay

1:51:43 Are you... are there sirens? Karma to ya both. Karma! Are there sirens outside of your house? Yeah, there's a fire or something going down the street. We'll take the karma thanks Michael. You've got karma Sir Michael to you Gus Engstrom from Seattle $130 and 13 cents in the morning Jabril, Ah-Kwan and Mekisha for my first donation I have included one thirty thirteen to celebrate the third birthday he put this on the list of his little human resource bow I don't think it's on the list because it doesn't have a hold on let me double check uh no I'll put him on so it's oh Gus

1:52:24 I can't think of a better investment in the future than to contribute you the best podcast in the universe. I would like to thank my friend Riley for hitting me in the mouth this fall and curing my addiction to the mindless advertising steep bullcrap that is sports radio. Oh man, that's bad! Yeah although my reaction to no agenda cycles between fuming anger helpless defeat and hysterical laughter I feel obliged to listen and feel a part of this effed up country. I'm in need of a de-douching! I was called out by my friend Ashley Hurst in Seattle for not donating, also some little girl Yeh and Karma to help me and my little man keep living the new American dream of just getting by. Keep up the good work

1:53:11 Okay. Alright, deducing first... You've been de-douche'd! Yayyyy!!! You've got karma I do love the little girl yay That's kinda gay It is one of the best Jason Stevens Sir Jason Stevens $111.11 and let me just quickly see.. I do have most of the anonymous ones worked out In other words the ones with no thing because people are for some reason i don't know how to explain it but there's a box that says note to sender, that is where you type in your notice. You do not have to send the emails uh... but apparently some people can find this little box I have a feeling that maybe on some websites the link takes you into PayPal in a way that doesn't allow you to enter in a note Is that possible? Because thats the feeling I've gotten and its really bad because

1:54:08 People are emailing over and over again, and stuff gets lost people. Yeah there's a lot of you all see Jason No I don't see anything from Jason Stevens okay so anyway he gets his whoops damn it So he came in with $111.11 and we thank him for that. Anonymous in San Carlos, California 100 Please keep this donation Thank you both for the great show since I've been a total douche lately I need to throw down some value-for-value The only business model that actually works for honest news The real value of this show is way more than this lousy donation, but I have to buy overpriced school books from the scammers at the University of California Berkeley bookstore. This donation is about half a school book actually. These things are unbelievably scamish! When I was a kid this didn't exist by the way... Anyway he needs some school karma

1:55:03 You were a kid once? You've got karma. Yes, when I was younger. Go figure! Morton Kiernan in Copenhagen 9999 ITM from Gitmo Little Mermaid donating 3 times 33 and three times 0.33 for Operation Karma hopefully waking up to a no new it to a new know agenda with no complications some double knee surgery Wow Oh Keep up the brilliant news deconstructions, great for conversation pieces so hit people in the mouth.

1:55:44 in stockholm new jersey oh hold on a second it is there you go so nine or nine and suzho the paris of china at the foot of the silk road dear Dear Jebediah and Alejandro, I am honored and humbled to support you guys with my first donation of 2013. Despite what you may have heard, I was not moved to action by John's newsletter dated January 17th but as soon as I heard Adam's belch in the last show, I felt compelled to donate! It's proof! There he goes! Hiya! Nothing could be further from the truth

1:56:27 Anyway, the central question is that The Muppet Media is vilifying the intellectual class and by extension free thought. You guys should market a no agenda vaccine that promotes critical thinking Thank you both for your efforts in exposing the charade of the news and most of all for getting me to laugh at the absurdity of it all I'm not going to request any jingles but hope you'll talk more about the China Gitmo Nation dynamic in the future. I think we talked about that China don't they have lot yeah and if you have any thoughts on it make sure to send it to us but yes please when you make some observation or get acute photo send it over Lou the shoe and upland California 9999

1:57:06 A donation for the valued media literacy program you guys provide. The end of the show clips for the last few shows have been especially fantastic! There's proof! Fact! Science is in! Please provide a double dose of 999 and a get well soon karma for Doc and the fellas, especially Rajon. Okie dokie we got that for ya. You've got karma Anonymous from Napcatch in Arnold, Maryland. 99 or 90 or is it from Napcatch? I guess 99-99 what's up Adam Curry and John Quincy Dvorak! I've been sucking at the tit of the best podcast in the universe for too long and I'm in desperate need of a de-douching please send some house hunting karma so my smoking hot fiance

1:57:59 Some pictures yes and pictures. Yes, I'm pictures up waiting for you It's something else you're looking at the KSM band And I can live the American dream of just getting by can also get a shut-up it science for my fellow rocket scientists that Goddard Space Flight Center peace out mofos oh really Well that's interesting. So de-douching, shut up it's science and a karma okay we got that for you You've been de-dooched Shut Up already! Science! You've got Karma There ya go Rory Fusca in Miami'sburg Ohio

1:58:39 99.99 I love no agenda and i usually donate twice or three times a year here's hoping 2013 will be better in a more stable year without the immigration cliffhanger of 2012, I hope Mickey gets her US citizenship without too much trouble! I don't need karma for anything specific but I would like our national treasure Don't Look Over Here Karma to help you guys stay safe as you come closer to discovering the truth behind the media lies so uh... and miki will not become a citizen that is a little much of it much longer journey you have and i don't think she'll ever become a citizen as you were uh... c i've petitioned for her

1:59:19 to receive a green card and upon a check of $1,050 to the Department of Homeland Security. This is in addition to the $1050 I've already spent on her O-1 and the $420 on the petition for the green card she also must submit to a medical test in which she will have to prove with the record she has, if hopefully they'll be accepted that she's had all of her shots otherwise they will have to administer her shots or boosters by the way. They may decide to give her boosters I am ashamed. Alright drop your panties lady! I'm a shamed, a shamed, a shamed and that's an addition... Wait a minute, I thought when you married somebody when you marry them they became citizens? No no no

2:00:14 No, no. She can... I can petition! Why was I misled all these years? They were hookers John they were just trying to get you to marry them okay? No i'm saying why.. Because it's not true! Why is it like oh this why do they investigate somebody marries a Russian and then they're on their case or investigating to see if they're just trying to get American citizenship? No it's just trying to get a green card It's just a green card. Wait, they're spending resources on green cards? Yeah it's first of all I'm spending thousands of dollars in checks to the United States government by the way happy 10th anniversary Department of Homeland Security celebrated this week hey your gift is in the mail

2:01:03 So you have to send this money with your form, then including the medical test and which is basically to give her shots unless she's gonna try and get out of most. And I think she can get out of most...and then she has to have an interview! Then she's on probation for two years and in two years we have to come back and oh if we forget If we forget about the two years, if we're too late automatically green card is gone. I'm gonna get to it... Meanwhile you can get amnesty if you sneak in through the border as a Mexican? Is that what you're telling me? Well this is what most people say when I tell them this story and I need to give you my Redbook prediction on immigration after the donations. I have a thought as to how this is going to go down. I didn't get to it before we hit the jingles

2:01:58 uh... so i would let me know if you need a car must win the decline of the area for thank sorry can't resist he doesn't mean that not well-off but he wanted to know our national treasure don't look over here karma like it still do that nothing to see and didn't want to come in dot com karma get double-time indications that uh... guys are howard good next in princeville Kauai, he's actually in Seattle. But I guess he moved to- what did he move there? Anyway Sir Howard Guttnacht in Princeville, Kauai where the central question is Where did all the rainbows go? Harp Adam? No. That's where they went Okay, Lye Chow in Daly City California Oh sorry Guttknecht had an 8888 I'm a total bonehead I'm sorry There we go

2:02:56 Make sure I hit him with the ham next. He doesn't say it. Don't know that he doesn't want me to talk about this I've had other people complain somehow wrapped up a huge beer and got it through the system Where you sent me a big beer? You send your beers of the mail you mean yeah one of the systems, I don't can't say wait We got our moonshine through the post Yeah, that actually was really well packaged. We got to still talk about that Lai Chow in Daily City 8369 Hey Jewel and Atom

2:03:35 Thank you for the best podcast in universe. Here's a donation amount I can afford 83 for the last two digits of the show and my birth year 69 for the swazzle enough karma Please called call out all the Burmese peoples in the Bay Area who voted for Obama as douchebags Burmese people many of them are Obama bots you think already nap for humanity to to the head and karma please Oh not for humanity hold on a second I hadn't where is not for humanity I don't know what happened we haven't done that for humanity in a long time yeah I think he just did it like a couple weeks ago really

2:04:19 I'll have to owe that one to you. I've no idea where it is Oh here it is, I got it there we go You've Got Karma Yeah nailed it Okay, let's see. This is the 7290 right? Yeah I got a note here from Alice Aldred from Calgary 7290 has a very long note which i'm only going to read part of One of my browsers acting up...I don't know By the way it says 7290s are two lucky numbers I've been a boner since episode 428

2:04:57 Though I've known a lot about what you talk about before finding you and perhaps some things that you never even heard of." And then he mentions one of the guys who does this sort-of thing. Yeah, thank you for all the hard honest work. You guys do you know fighting that fight blah blah? Blah you'd be ones that need my money most Not an info were Wars t-shirt to punch people in the mouth not another good book together dust on my shelf Don't stop no agenda is the engine of truth. You're pulling a great weight behind you and it must be hard But you're doing so damn well anyway, so he would request

2:05:39 A, uh... Don't eat me is too delicious. Toot to the head get ye little girl yay karma. Which is one two three four too many Really? Seriously? So don't eat me Too delicious Little girl yay Ugh Jesus Christ Toot to the head Yeah sure Don't eat me Hillary Clinton It's almost too delicous to believe my friend You're fine Hold on I like it Wait There we go. Sorry, it's too many people! No we're going three...three if you can't be funny in three this is like the six-second vine clip You know? You gotta be concise. Vine please Six seconds of crap that was the title of my column Sir Gavin Warren in Turak Victoria Australia 7244

CHAPTER 26 / 35 Discussion

Tech Media Critique, Arduino Projects and Lincoln Logs

A listener's request for more tech media deconstruction leads to a brief discussion on the state of technology journalism, which the hosts describe as mostly recycled press releases. They also discuss the "Arduino" platform, comparing the DIY electronics culture to modern-day "Lincoln Logs" or Erector Sets for children and hobbyists.

tech news· arduino· lincoln logs· intel· engineering

2:06:36 which is 69.69 in Aussie dollars, ITM boys some great karmic alignment... how did the Aussie dollar get so high? That's annoying Because we suck so bad Black Ops Night has just closed a great matrimonial case with the target getting some great swazzle-enough action on a semi public beach Yes I got photos and video So i'm looking for that two delicious two to the head Hag laughter? I don't know what that means What's hag laugh? I don't know. Hag laugh is that laughing that we picked a bunch of different laughers We don't have the good hag laugh, it needs to be clipped out Give him two delicious two to the head It's almost too delicious to believe my friend You've got karma He says include my birthday on the register...we don't have a register

2:07:32 If we put it in, if your birthday is gonna be forgotten you have to remind us on the birthday date. Ted in Washington 7117 In the morning like to hear you two dissect the spin on the tech media instead of just focus on a Powerball The Tech Media's really for just here Here It Is Let me Just summarize All press releases all crap all the time okay You read my column and you dig. And thanks for checking in this week in tech everybody, nice to have you John C. Dvorak! Perfect that's the show enjoy... You're both tech savvy I think you could do good things yeah I don't think so besides that there is so much tech news out there and almost 90% of all we'll be doing is uh you know what are going to do go over the Intel instruction set on this latest chip and say no they're wrong it doesn't work that way oh you just got me hard can you imagine?

2:08:29 Yeah, no I would my I love talking tech once in a while. I don't get invited to do that We talked tech on this show occasionally yeah, and when it's appropriate we do that's true He would like if fiscal cliff scream shut up its science karma Fiscal Cliff Shut Up It's okay. I'm sorry you distracted me with this whole Instruction set chit-chat. Yeah, I was like hey man it's like yeah let's talk about that i'm kind of good to go. Science! You've got karma. I was good for that. Instructions set... you know these adreno stuff is audrino and you're familiar with this the Audrino?

2:09:16 No, no this like it's like this. It's kind of a platform where you can build stuff and that and it comes with wireless transmitters receivers and and Servos and you can bill its its its servos yeah now people are building some some cool crap with it I was like what oh Just Google Audrino projecting you'll see I mean there's some nuts. It's an it's a nice culture of kids making something So you make it, there's like hardware and there is software that goes along with it. And all kinds of stuff! Is this like Lincoln Logs? It's... Thank you! It's exactly what it is. It's the modern day Lincoln log. Exactly I hope the kids have fun. Why were Lincoln logs called Lincoln logs huh?! Because Lincoln lived in a log cabin. Oh they forgot to put that in the movie

2:10:06 They forgot, it seems like they forgot to put a lot. I think probably more like an erector set because they have little motors and stuff Maybe i'm saying it wrong Arduino? Ar-dree-no what the hell was that thing its... Awww... Dreeno I gotta just look this up I don't even know what its called Arduino? Arduino No its arduino Arduino thats whats its called Arduino? A-R-D-U-I-N-O. Arduino. Huh, why would they call it something so silly? Look at arduino! You should look at it! Alright hit to hit this theme we're on our way 33 of these babies in that's... It's almost too delicious to believe my friend 69! 69! 69! 69 DUDES! Yay

CHAPTER 27 / 35 Discussion

Swazzlenuff Donation Streak, Douchebag Callouts and MILF List

The donation segment continues with numerous $69.69 contributions. The hosts perform "douchebag callouts" for friends of listeners who have not yet donated and add several wives to the show's "MILF list" per donor requests. Recurring audio jingles involving Hillary Clinton and "Mac and Cheese" are played in response to specific contributions.

donations· douchebag callout· milf list· mac and cheese· hillary clinton

2:10:52 Okay, this is gonna chew up a few minutes. Bernie Adema, Sir Bernie to you in Hinton Iowa and these are all 6969 so I don't have to keep saying it over and over In the morning Alvin & Jeb Happy Swazzle Nuff Centennial Show Please give a shout out to Daylight Donuts in Sioux City And keep your outstanding work coming God's blessing to both of you and Miss Mimi I would like a It's Climate Gate followed by Shut Up at Science Okay. To the gate, to the gate... Shut up already! It's science! You know what bothers me? Yeah lots of stuff Earlier in this show you mentioned this guy who was a science writer or whatever it was that was moaning about how people are ignoring the truckloads of evidence

2:11:50 Is anybody from that side of the fence ignoring the truckload of evidence from ClimateGate where the guys would literally say, well we can't quite get to numbers you want so we phonied up the data? Do they ever pay... does that count as anything? In other words is it that the data were looking at was so conclusive maybe phonied-up. Hey! do you think we landed on the moon I think we did land on the moon first time. Do you think earth is flat The earth is flat where I'm standing. Okay, Troy Haskin Madison Wisconsin Hey Heil citizens. Sorry. I haven't donated in a while Wow Central question is I am living the American dream of just getting by right fact Yeah But the opportunity to participate and swallow it swallows enough 100 was just too delicious to believe so here you go Keep up the best journalism in the universe gentlemen lovely thank you Troy Villas gas

2:12:47 Severn, Maryland. First time donor from Dallas! Yay! From Maryland, Dallas. Good job with the database there PayPal. He needs a de-douching and getting laid karma for my friend John. You've been de-douched you've got karma. Nice Kevin McDowell in Louisburg Kansas Jarvis and Alvin of the best podcast in the universe you guys had me cracking up on the drive home during show 480 listening to JCD fumble fart around trying to view images on his dilapidated browser. That's dilapidated to you. Dilapatated Here's 6969 to help with a browser upgrade can I get a douche call out from my brother

2:13:40 Okay. Who says he can't find the time to listen to No Agenda after I got his iTunes iPod set up to download the show? Long live the swazzle-off! What's he doing, is he listening on the NPR podcast list? You have no idea... Probably, most people listen to it. That's a big podcast in the NPR. Maybe Adam Carolla Show is too occupied with the real news over there. Anonymous and La Jolla? Says nothing doesn't want to talk about it sir Sam lung in Toronto our buddy Hello, gents was enough karma. I asked for previously didn't pan out ah Fortunately but that's all right you guys still rock just looking for JCD You will obey jingle followed by Atlas shrugged you will obey you will obey By Ayn Rand

2:14:39 He found the old clip. That's good Archibald Kelly, Niagara Falls Ontario From Niagara Falls Nuts I haven't donated for a while but my subscription is alive and well you sure? Okay we'll get it if you check I know it's a bit of a dry period so give yourselves a shot at karma see what will that will improve the situation Sloan Kelly PS Adam If you want to play Atlas Shrugged because of the nuts bit feel free What do you think he's gonna do You've got karma. Nope, I'm not gonna do that to my buddy, my podcasting partner. Good Matt Lithga in Tinley Park Illinois can i get an LGY and shut up it's science thanks dudes yeah I can give you that what's LGY? Oh come on how many times so I have to tell you? YAY! Shut up already! It's science! LGY is little girl yay

2:15:35 Yeah, this is... I knew that. Along with the fact that i saw Argo. I'm not gonna let that go. Glenn Riccio, Sir Glenn Riccio to you, Charlottesville Virginia Happy birthday on Friday to Lynn we have to put Lynn on the MILF list Put Lynn on a birthday list? On the MILF list! Okay send pictures so he can check uh... ricky o to milf linda land of slain now i and uh... maybe james shultz sorry division a dot is in rockwood ohio you know did he use an asian mills could be now i am it's a little asian name but could be anything

2:16:22 In the morning, John and Adam. Can I get a douchebag call out from my friend Roozbeh Abadi? He got me onto your show about a year ago but has yet to donate This callout will probably prompt him to donate and call ME out as a douche bag as well So i would like to request a preemptive de-douching Your last shows have been awesome! Keep up the good work Alright, de-douching? You've been de-douched. Actually in Toronto Ontario Not Rockwood Ohio I guess he moved Paul J Sankowski Sir Paul to you and Winooski Vermont

2:17:06 Up there in the cold Vermont. Can't get there from here! 6969, ITM my good fellows JC's brainwashing missive worked! Could I get a karma 2 to the head little girl yay to get me through the late January thaw? Yay!!! You've got karma Brian SirBrian Barrow and Wooten by some place but it was insane wouldn't bass best will share with your uh... the donation u k i guess anyway keep the street going to know how much appreciate the show now about michelle obama and mac and cheese a sheer coincidence i listen to your latest ridiculing of that celebrated dish last saturday night having just returned from a surprise party with portion of this stuff in a doggy bag as someone whose family comes from the barbados i know that if any gathering isn't complete

2:18:01 It's mac and cheese. So when Michelle kept repeating Mac and Cheese, it's code! She was telling the West Virginian diaspora that she is just like them. Now give me a douchebag because I should have donated sooner to some Mac & Cheese And a side order of karma if you get the Mac & Cheese Few slaves can get used to Mac & Cheese Macaroni and cheese shatter melt together You've got karma Benjamin Ross in Palencia, California. I was the first person to call out a douchebag friend for not donating to your show Jose Fonteo the original douche bag

2:18:49 And he donated a week later. Two years ago! But since it was early on, he was not de-douche'd Let's keep it that way and call him a douchebag again! He should donate again as we've both enjoyed the show through the years Love what you do Keep it up and thank you for all your hard work I love when people have been listening to us for years That's really...that's good That's really nice It feels like family It is family Yeah but I think..I didn't realize that Ben here Was the originator of the Douchebag Callout Is he really? Wow, yeah that's huge. I wonder what episode that was... Ask him why. I know it has to go way back, he says over two years ago but it was a douchebag call out before we had the douche bag jingle because it became so popular and needed a little douche bag thing Right! I don't even know who gave us the douche bag thing. I didn't even know where that came from

2:19:39 I don't know nothing. I'm clueless. We're clueless! Sir David Rosa's not in Clarkston, Michigan Keep up the great work keep all the boners out there a great big come on already it's science plus douchebag Shut up already! It's science! Douchebag! Like that? Sir Thomas Fields in Auburn Hills, Michigan Dear itchy and scratchy it's a honor to be a knight of the no agenda Roundtable but also to be given the opportunity become a member of the hecto swazzle nuff club That's far too good of an opportunity to pass up Could I please get a shut-up at science one hot milf baby for my smoking hot wife? And a career karma for myself keep hitting him in the mouth. Oh wow okay Already

2:20:32 Science! That's one hot mouth, baby. You've got karma. Something sad about that jingle... Sir Robert Gashko in Sherwood Park, Alberta. Uh, ITM John and Adam keeping the streak alive from getting my nation back bacon keeps hitting them in the mouth can I get a simple karma shot to the dream? To keep the dream alive Thank you sir Robb. You've got karma. You bet Mark Phillip Thomas in Gold Bar, Washington. I donated a year ago and asked for karma to help me find a new job turns out i got two of them the first was part-time for the US Postal Service just after I got the job you guys started discussing all the problems with the mail service I wound up quitting due to low hours and unsteady work week now I'm working for the main logistics supplier that receives stores and transports most of the inventory for a certain liner of dreams

2:21:32 Oh, okay. A dreamliner if you will. You think? Uh-huh Now those planes are grounded, I'm a little worried. Please give me a camera shot to either help with the job security or help me find an even better job Also why is it you guys always start talking bad about the 787 as i am driving through the factory floor? I'm likely going to get beat up over there Hold on a second This is a war between you guys and Airbus We have no dog in the hunt However we're not fans of plastic planes I just got to say it again, sheet metal and rivets which you Boeing folks are really good at. Yeah well that's those... Can i say something to you about that? Those days are over! Yeah okay what sheet metal and rivets

2:22:20 Those days are not over. They're over, this is all done we're screwed we're gonna be driving around in plastic plates Oh okay but it's not like you're saying its a good thing but your saying its just over I like the sheet metal and plastic rivets the things are solid you can punch them No! No plastic rivets! It's not like what is the plastic rivet? You know it's like that crappy car that East Germans built that was made out of some weird goo from pulp and plastic The Trabant The Trabant. Now all the planes are basically Trabants. Trabant Airline Company. You've got karma! If you have not seen a Trabant, you need to Google it. There's another great car from that era...the Lada

2:23:03 Oh, the Lada. Yeah well the Lada at least is made out of steel I think it's not made out of this... It's not even plastic! You have to look it up. It's just made out a wood pulp and some other crap. You mean the Trabant? Yeah, the Trabant Let's just take a look at it. Trabant hold on a second we need to uh... Come on people of knowledge! Let's just see what it was made of specifically hold on a second Uhhhhhhhhhh....I don't think it says what it was made of in the No, it's somewhere. It was made of wood? Yeah, it was plastic that they designed in East Germany that used wood pulp as a bonding agent or something. But it is wood and some resins You need to look at the Book of Knowledge They have the Trabant 601 Deluxe Limousine Ooh! Gotta look at it

2:23:58 Let me see if I have a material, let's see what it was made of. Full production... Oh okay the Trabant was a steel Monaca cue what yeah, that means it was under frame was a steel. It's a certain style you pronounce that monoca cue Monica I don't know how it's pronounced the mana cock. I thought Monica I got it. I got a monocoque for you Yeah, but she do with roof bootleaders and other defenders in duro plaste Dura plastic was a hard plastic similar to bake light Made of recycled materials made from cotton waste

2:24:40 Fennel resins and poop. Duroplast I love duroplast, I need to make some duroplasts We need to make this apparently now there was they says related a bakelite but my understanding is that the it could be bent so there would be occasionally There'd be somebody would hit the side of one of these things and push in the door And sort of be yeah we dent in right? It would dent in and then they pop out randomly And this guy from East Germany told me, he says it's scary. Apparently people will be walking by and this thing would pop out with a huge explosion and scare the crap out of passers-by This kind of life is lost...this history is lost to Americans Trabant and the car tuning community The very first tuning attempts can be dated back to production times where large number amateur rally drivers fiddled great word fiddle with their flying guitar picks

2:25:39 name devised from the plastic material used for several outer parts of the carrosserie, to outperform their friendly rivals in their own rally racing category. We need to reinstate this. I'm a big fan of this idea This is very good, and I need a Trabant Hey Mickey! That's what- I wanna get Mickey a Trabant. Here's your next car! That's it let me see, let me see. I think having a Trabant would be- Trabants for sale in Austin Let me see if i can find them. I bet you they're too expensive. I'll betcha they're outrageous. As a collectible. Trabants sales classic...let's seeeee Oh they are hard to come by looks like

2:26:15 Let's see what the price is. 1989 Trabant 601. They go for about, wow! 2,000 pounds that's like... I'm just... It must be grand. Yeah it's about $3,000 but they look bitchin'. Well now they do. Yeah looks great oh man she'll love it and we can put like the big snare drum headlights on the front? There you go. I can filch those off of the Range Rover. I can put the woofer Got a big subwoofer for I can put that Rockin Austin with a Big sound system. I think we have a way to bet you that dad Duraplast would really be a good resonator Probably yeah, if it doesn't crack love it love it great well This was a nice little side job nice Jeffrey Wolff and Edmund Oklahoma Love the end of this show clip last episode was a doozy It was mine

2:27:14 Yeah, well... Was he bitching about it? No. Because it was mine! No, it wasn't because it was yours He likes the clips People listen to these clips Big to fail my ass That is why I love this show and continue to donate Value for value can I get a shot of karma To help ward off the stress heart attack that I'm working on Yes please don't get a heart attack You've got karma Okay um brr Rene Estevez in Orlando, Florida. Hey there Armando and Juan Carlos and Maria I'm donating on behalf of a good friend who is currently getting fucked by cancer hence the 6969 she is currently

2:28:02 Getting some tests done, and we are in dire need of some good news. So please send some fuck cancer Karma her way I do believe in the power of karma and the well-wishing of the no agenda community can't help even if it's only a little bit PS If you have any doubts that karma works on my last donation I requested to karma for my housemate to find a job The next day he scored an interview is currently working at the same place. I am just another department What are the odds? Can you say, can you say... That's ridiculous Lucy! You've got karma. This is really ridiculous Fred! Okay, well you can do it, you could do a total Ricky Ricardo Fred Ethel come on do it try it try it try not doing it I did what was that I didn't even know I was doing the voice Oh God okay Lucy

2:29:01 No, I'm sure Estevez has got a sense of humor. That was hilarious! So Kent O'Rourke...I can't find anything from Kent, Sir Kent in Frostburg Maryland and I was hoping to maybe send an email but no uh... christian herzog sir christian herzog in ellwood illinois hello hola amigos, Sir Zogg of Ellwood here i'm making a contribution not for myself but for my buddy Matt Lomar I hit him in the mouth on a road trip and he's taken off running smacking additional people in the kisser Matt gives me hope since as a recent high school graduate he's working for a living now while attending school. He is definitely not the noodles kid and would likely kick the noodles kids ass! I would like to put this donation toward kicking off Matt's knighthood and working up a little swazzle of karma for him so if you could hit him with some hey citizen, two-to-the head karma i'd appreciate it and bet he'd appreciate even more yeah absolutely Hey Citizen

2:30:02 You've got karma. Uh, Joshua Brickner... Longmont Colorado Can I get an Atlas Shrugged followed by Bullshit and a Karma Callout from my niece McKenna? Just because she deserves it! Uhh yeah sure. Atlas Shrugged... Bullshit! What?! Hey that was- nice combo. Yeah i liked that one Oleg Rakatini, Sir Oleg Rakatini in Richmond Hill Ontario 6969. Thanks for the great work and can I have a job search karma? Yes please you need some jobs You've got Karma Elizabeth Bozerin Borazzin

2:30:52 Elizabeth Bozer Boros and I'm I say can't I want to say bozo ran, but it's borrows an Tucson B2 in Tucson asked for a douche be douching and don't eat me Hillary Clinton You've been deep do Shut up Dr. Kiki now, I'm sorry I did I gotta do that one again that was bad where's uh Whoa. Let's try that again. You've been de-douche'd! Eat me, Hillary Clinton! There we go It's gonna be done you know she's over and out it's like this is not to do something else I'm she's not going to be around for us to make fun of anymore Who? Hillary

2:31:42 Oh, she's always going to be around. Nah, I'm worried. Well maybe you're right. It might be something we have to retire until she gets back and becomes president. I'm worried! KJB Properties in Houston Texas With all the SwazzleNuff going on here, just threw some of that All Purpose Good Karma on top. Happy SwazzleNuff Kyle Blank! Thank you Kyle...Happy SwazzleNuff! You've got karma. Happy SwazzleNuff everybody! Black Knight Era Dardarian in Trabuco Canyon California keeping the streak alive can I please have a Don't Eat Me Hillary followed by Two Delicious? My daughter Gracie just loves that one! Don't eat me Hilary Clinton

2:32:21 It's almost too delicious to believe my friend Okay, I hope Gracie got a kick out of that tell Gracie to record some stuff while she's still a little kid Did you hear the new Ellen that we go? What? Did you hear the new one that we got, I played it but i don't think you'd really... Yeah so you played it and I didn't just concentrate on what did he play. Hold on a second did you like it? No you don't know. Yeah I don't know its not as understandable as Don't Eat Hillary Clinton Shut up already! It's science! Scabby Giffords! Very good send that over to Kiki Elliot Rothman in Atlanta Georgia

2:33:00 Apparently not bright enough to figure out how to add a comment while making a donation, so hope you read this on the show. Conrads on the 100 episodes 6969 dudes I'm a longtime listener long time monthly paying subscriber but this is my first significantly sized contribution may have a mac and cheese too delicious shut up science to celebrate You slaves can get used to mac and cheese, mac and cheese. Macaroni and cheap cheddar melted together. Mac and cheese! Mac and Cheese! It's almost too delicious to believe my friend. Shut up already! Science! Sorry bonus didn't mean to do that. Guy jumped on the cliff. Sorry little bonus there didn't mean to do that. Jeffrey Gerlach in Alamo a little quick karma is what he wants.

CHAPTER 28 / 35 Discussion

Baron von Pelsmacher, Damehood for Lizzie and Global Knights

Baron von Pelsmacher of Belgium and France sends a significant donation and requests a Damehood for a listener named Lizzie. The hosts discuss the growth of the "No Agenda Roundtable" and the international reach of the show's knighthood system. Other donors from Canada and the UK share personal stories about family and career challenges.

baron von pelsmacher· damehood· knighthood· belgium· france

2:33:49 You've got karma. Painful. And we have served Baron von Pelsmacher of Belgium and France, ITM or rather Parla Moana to Margarita. Para manana! Para manana! I just got a bunch of garbledy-gook. I'm trying to guess what it is this...I get the wrong font on this machine. Get the fonts installed to correct your... To Margarita, Marisol Alonso and Jesus Even as I am becoming more of a slave to the almighty financial institutions in order to avail myself of a replacement castle, I cannot turn a deaf ear to the increasingly desperate pleas of the tireless and indomitable progenitors of the absolute best podcast in the universe.

2:34:33 all the more so as I allegedly is this is allegedly the hundredth episode of The Swaziland of Streak. So in honor of Karen with a nice rear, calipigious as it were what better name to ask for some...what better time to ask for some that inverse karma for a better future for the fellow dames and knights on the No Agenda Roundtable as well as for our peaceful new beginning for myself soon please bestow upon Lizzie aha! Lizzie a Damehood And Dr. Kiki, if you're listening every castle needs a proper scientist in one of its impregnable towers The barony of Belgium and France is willing to extend an offer that you can't refuse I keep up the great work Excellent! Well done John

2:35:29 He says we keep up the great work, but I think he keeps up the great work. Can you do that thing again and then just go say... Do the Dutch but then end it with Lucy! I mean that would be perfect. Harry Pilgrim in Fredericksburg Virginia. I'm never doing this Spanish accent again. Wait, I gotta give karma. It was inverse karma that The Baron wanted me to make sure we knew that. Karma. Don't piss off The Baron. Now The Baron is the We can't go to France or Belgium without his permission. Harry Pilgrim in Fredericksburg, Virginia. Good old Harry! Harry how you doing? Keeping the streak alive requesting a little swazzle enough karma Jen and I are celebrating our 22nd anniversary on the 31st we have a plaque in our kitchen that reads happiness is wanting what you have after 22 years I can honestly say

2:36:14 I want everything that i have. Happy anniversary Jennifer! Aww, they're sweet remember they're the ones who picked us up from the airport? Hot pockets 2008 Remember that? Yeah. No, give him a little swazz enough karma You've got karma She's fiery Good luck you know she so fi- she like broke his leg What?! yeah im telling ya He's dead Well...I don't where it happened But I know she broke it. He says it was like, oh whatever you know what the bullcrap? I know she's just... She's fiery. She broke his leg Okay Jamie Richard who sent us an email from Boston Massachusetts nuts Hey Manti and Lenei I've recently had my eyes open to the atrocities here in Gitmo Nation You guys are doing a great job at keeping them open

2:37:04 Now I've been trying to introduce my faux news addicted parents to the crackpot and buzzkill way, but it's going to be a challenge. Keep up the good work! Can i get a hey citizen toot of the head karma? Hey citizen You've got karma Mahmood Hamad in Sumner Washington Well Mahmood he emails me from time to time ITM Joseph Smith and Admiral Akbar. It's been over a year since my friend hit me in the mouth, and I've been listening to every show I can thanks so much for providing us amazing service And now that I have some income you can expect to hear much more from me well nice Thank You Mahbub lovely Matt Matthew Phillips or Matthew

2:37:52 Uh, Y and O to Michigan. Just simply says show 100 and ends it! That's it! 69! 69 dudes! Alright! Wow. Should we just retire this swazzle enough? Which we've been trying too. Now of course what will happen... I think I'm thinking about making the minimum donation for all this chatter that we do That's not a bad idea. Yeah, we just move it up to 69-69 and then we're stuck with it forever which looks like its going to happen anyway. It's kind of one of our things and one of our memes. Kyle Rogers in Lost Wages Nevada 5555 keep up the great work hit him with some finish the project karma. You've got karma. Toby Wilson in Hove

2:38:48 East Sussex, double niggles on the dime. ITM Statler and Waldorf first-time donor long time boner this is actually the third time I've wanted to donate first time I wanted to get myself some karma before going on one of the UK's major TV game shows...I forgot and guess what happened? I went home with nothing and the other three contestants went home with 40,000 pounds between them. God! Then i was gonna donate and ask for karma for a home purchase but I forgot And guess what happened? No The sale fell through a week before we were meant to move in And thanks to lousy British house selling systems I lost $1,000 dollars to boot in fees as well You got gzumped Now

2:39:32 So now I would this fee thing is of tax, but that's what they call it. He got gazumped That's what they call it there because I'm sunk to get zumped with the P gazumped so now I'm donating and taking Adams mantra that you can't just donate to get karma for yourself But to show gratitude and value for value for the good guys you work that you guys do us Can I have a smoking hot milf for my wife, a little girl yay! For my two year old human resource. And if it's not tempting fatal little A bit of house buying karma for the next purchase to go through smoothly Yes we can do all that Uh...I just need uh...uh Sorry Sometimes it gets stuck That's no what I- What is that doing? Donkey brain I don't know where that came from Thats not what I want Alright It's a Milf and then what

2:40:27 Milk little girl yay. That's one hot milk, baby. It's almost Sorry I'm out he got more than he asked for yes that should accomplish something Brian Wright Pasadena Maryland Double nickels on the dine since times are slow I feel it's time for another donation to the best podcast in the universe my wife's birthday is on January 31st So please put her on the list. I would like to request a milf for my wife and an in-the-morning for my son Lane And some general all purpose karma for the three of us Thanks for everything you guys do and just keep up the fantastic work That's one mother, I'd like to

2:41:24 You've got karma and he is actually on the list with his celebration. Yeah Okay, so we got George tangent from Invergrove Minnesota nuts And he sent in an email just made 50 bucks But then elected to accompany it with a message my father passed away yesterday while I had no knowledge of Noah Jenna He raised me in such a way that I was destined to find you He always enjoyed a good debate and most importantly he respected others views. It's been awhile since I've pointed up for the contribution so now it seems fitting, A karma shot would be perfect if you'd be so kind My father son and i all share the same name George but only the bill collectors and TSA agents know me as George You can call me Chip But perhaps once I earn my knighthood I ought to go back to George to make it official Okay... You've got Karma

CHAPTER 29 / 35 Discussion

National ID Cards, Debt Slavery and Valentine's Day

A donor from Orlando suggests that recent government initiatives are a precursor to a mandatory national ID card. Another listener from Georgia explains the "143" text-speak code for "I love you" in relation to their previous donation. The segment concludes with final acknowledgments of donors from Copenhagen and Texas.

national id· debt slavery· valentine's day· copenhagen· georgia

2:42:20 Terrence Gore, San Jose California. 50 I didn't mention need to get in vaccination biz how about offering Patsy vaccinations to us all citizens for fifty bucks one-year warranty guaranteed 99% effective just by mentioning our names on the air thanks guarantee 99 percent okay no idea what he said I feel like it though Eric Henry in Orlando ITM Jabari and Abaddon. I would like to donate more by living the American dream of slowly but surely becoming a debt slave Adam through all the bull crap that's been pushed out recently it is possible that the powers can be slipped in a national ID card somewhere what better way to track you slaves crazy levels numbers have guns correct medical scan what we said in the show today

2:43:17 just thought no agenda is great for marriages. Fact! Why? Because the central question is all about communication after hitting my wife in the mouth a while back at dinner, the other night... Yo bitch! She asked me if I felt Sandy Hook's was a hoax this is after she listened to some of the in-depth research you provide we spent the next hour breaking it down and walking where the kids pass fire station to sit Indian style in a psychologist front yard Bullshit 33 is the magic number clip that explains everything karma to know agenda CD comm request pipeline CD file Oh, yes. No agenda cd-com is up and running so I guess they'll Be doing that we have all kinds of CDs coming compilations good work there gentlemen could well like the compilation Hey, thanks Eric. We need those to promote this show yeah Sir lord did he want karma you once Karma? Sorry sorry?

2:44:14 On three. It was bullshit 33 karma. Well, I didn't understand that. Bullshit! Here we go. Kind of reversed it there on him. That's good. We like it that the whole family's involved with this show, that's what we want. It is not going to work out with one member of the family who listens to this show and then becomes very skeptical while the other one is an Obama bot! That's just not gonna work! And it's not just Obama bots... I mean, that would mischaracterize or worry about. Same thing, same thing exactly thank you You have to say that, you gotta disclaim that

2:45:00 Otherwise people think you're a Republican and a moon landing denier. Sir Lawrence McBride in Morton, Merseyside UK greeting from Gitmo East Ben awhile since I oh been awhile sorry it's been a while since I donated not as much as I wanted to give but I've been gainfully employed for a few months unemployed Oh, well I gotta get back to the screen where i can actually see it. Try reading! Let's get back to the screen What are you doing? Are you knitting?! I'm conserving my pennies Job Karma plus Dr Peaky You've got karma Shut up already Science Alright here we go Here is a guy who knows what he's doing Link me in Winterville Georgia

2:45:56 I'm canceling my $5 a month subscription and upping it to $50 a month until i reach knighthood. Wow, alright nice doctor Please mention my wordpress plugin link l-e-n-k dot me godspeedlu yeah and I donated 143.69 on valentine's day last year you guys didn't get it its 143 equals I love you in text speak number of characters per word hello plus swazzle nuff Duh Huntsman plus dr. Kiki, please boy we are dumb this is I never knew the 143. We're not hip like the kids anymore, I guess Yeah the kids, those kids Ulrich Hansen in some place or other Copenhagen is that right? Or 23... I don't know it looks like Copenhagen The thing is Copenhagen Modest donation may bring you one step closer to the revised American dream Martin Krupka in Ludwigshafen Deutschland this is a short note You are very welcome

2:47:05 James Stevens and Mineral Wells Texas 50. And that concludes our list of the No Agenda special 100th show with the Swazzle Nuff, and we want to thank everybody who donated. And don't forget we do have a show on Sunday which is nobody apparently has been listening too much so go to Dvorak dot org slash NA and get it be we need some executive producers we got we're dying here without them So I have a question. I have Lizzie on the list, does she receive her damehood already? Is there an accounting? You weren't listening to me. No, I heard that... She was granted damehood by the Baron! Right but i think he said he wanted to get her knighthood already it wasn't necessarily... Let's re-read this where is the Baron? There he is okay

CHAPTER 30 / 35 Discussion

Dame Lizzie Knighting Ceremony, Georgetown Law and Sunday Show

The hosts officially grant a Damehood to Lizzie, making her one of the youngest members of the No Agenda Roundtable. They remind listeners of the upcoming Sunday show and the need for more Executive Producers to support the program. The segment transitions into a final clip regarding constitutional law.

knighting ceremony· dame lizzie· georgetown university· sunday show· executive producers

2:47:56 Please bestow upon Lizzie a damehood soon. Soon? Does that mean... I just wanted to know if it's the- Yeah, no! I think this is his because we promised that we're gonna use one of his blanks and so he is now saying hey do it will ya? One of his blanks All right, hold on a second First I want to remind you that it will be wide open for executive and associate executive producers on Sunday We really do need the help. It's this it's the the seesaw thing That is a little weird You know because we got a lot of stuff still to do in this show

2:48:34 And it'd be nice we could balance it out. We do appreciate your help for the best podcast in the universe of org It's your birthday, birthday of Noah Jenda! Here we go. The list has been augmented. Brian Wright first of all he wants to congratulate his wife as she is celebrating today. Glenn Riccio's MILF wife Lynn and Gus Enstrom's little beau turns three Happy Birthday from all of your buddies here at the Noah Jenda Show the best podcast in the universe! Alright

2:49:14 So, I feel like we should probably change the rewards for the roundtable if we're doing Lizzie. You know what I'm saying? Right. Yeah, because Lizzie's like five So that is Lizzie for those of you who don't know she is fantastic and She is a she as an actress She has Oscar written all over her and on behalf of all of the no agenda dames and knights and specifically Baron Stephen von Pell smockers well we're going to roll out the blades there John if you could get yours please then we can

2:49:59 Lizzy, step forward young lady. You have become I believe the youngest dame of the Noah Jenner Roundtable but we could not do the best podcast in the universe without your help Don't eat me Hillary Clinton will live forever thanks to you We hereby pronounce thee Dame Lizzy, dame of the Noah Jenner round table come on Hang out with your fellow Knights and dames, and one day... One day we'll have some cool stuff for you to enjoy. And you're old enough. Yeah, yeah, Uncle Adam will show y'all about it. It's gonna all be good. We can take care of ya'. Okay. Milk n' cookies! I should- I could've done that. Milk n' cookies exactly. Attention all human resources. No entry in second half of zone

CHAPTER 31 / 35 Discussion

Immigration Prediction, Sandy Hook Choir and MKUltra

A "Red Book" prediction suggests that a tragic event involving Latino women and children will be used to force through immigration reform. The hosts also discuss the Sandy Hook children's choir performing "Somewhere Over the Rainbow," linking the song to MKUltra mind-control theories and noting a coincidental connection to a record label named "Sandy Hook Records."

immigration reform· mexico· sandy hook· mkultra· judy garland

2:50:56 Alright, I got a quick couple things. Oh first let me... You want my prediction on this immigration thing? I've got a prediction for the Red Book we haven't done a Red Book in awhile Okay so well we have 11 million illegal immigrants and how are we going to make them all legal which is clearly what what we need to do. I mean there's just no doubt about it but it's not going to happen through legislation, right? You will agree with me John this is gonna be a whole thing oh the Senate says its great and then the House will be oh we can't do it! It's back and forth...it's another just time suck. But can ask you question in advance of your prediction yeah

2:51:38 When they do this broad sweep, they're going to throw in Mickey and all these other people that are here the same way? No. All the way over there illegally they're gonna make them citizens too? Nope nope nope nope Why? Because I'm gonna tell you how it's gonna go down So whenever we need to usher in some kind of legislation We need some kind of horrific event Right So here it is. We will have a group of beautiful Latino women and children, so from Mexico And they will be here and I'm gonna give you the news story I'm giving it to you and hear me now believe me later This is how I would do it if I was as evil as these A-holes running the show

2:52:24 So they're first of all, they're all pretty looking. They're all beautiful because most of them really are especially the young Latinas just beautiful children and beautiful mothers and they are going to be sent back but they're going to be sent back there's some horrible place in Mexico where they really were escaping from so they weren't here really for jobs that we hear for safety and security in the sanctuary that The United States offers and a large number of them will be slaughtered by the gang or whatever this horrible places in Mexico And that will be used and it will be turned around into, we can't send these people back. Mexico is a mess. We have to naturalize them all now. You can wait for this to happen

2:53:07 It's a good one. Write it down, I wrote it down! There are no qualms about shooting up anybody else here in America so why not have it happen over there? We got tons of violence. They can just say they shot them. Mass grave found! Yeah its gonna be something like that and its really going to be bad and they're gonna have pictures by the way, pictures of dead children and dead women and we'll go oh well we cant send these people back...we cant send them back So we have to keep them here and naturalize them. That is what it's gonna go down In case you missed this John Are you familiar with this with this song John of this particular version? Yeah, this is the children of Sandy Hook

2:54:02 who have been appearing on shows here and there performing the song Somewhere Over The Rainbow, originally performed of course by Judy Garland in The Wizard Of Oz. Now if you were to Google MKUltra And somewhere over the rainbow you will get a million YouTube hits. This is the song that is meant to trigger MKUltra mind-controlled subjects, so that's very interesting and I'm not making this up but it has been a topic of discussion for 20 years maybe even longer

2:54:40 now these children the survivors of Sandy Hook or whatever they're called are Actually singing this this song what's even crazier though is that Judy Garland? Did you know that she had a record company no I didn't know it that she did. She had a record company and she Released songs for Annie go get your gun the name of her record company was Sandy Hook Records. Oh, jeez! Uh-huh? They like to throw it in your face my brother I'm just saying they'd like to throw it in your face.

CHAPTER 32 / 35 Discussion

Operation Sabre, Mali Conflict and French Military

Operation Sabre, a French-led military intervention in Mali, is examined. Reports from Timbuktu suggest that the "liberation" occurred without a single shot fired, and the hosts question the actual presence of Al-Qaeda in the region. Video footage of the Malian army training by making vocal "gunfire" sounds is highlighted as evidence of the conflict's questionable nature.

operation sabre· mali· timbuktu· french army· al-qaeda

2:55:22 Alright everybody, here's the headline. in an effort to gather intelligence on neighboring Mali, Algeria and Libya. Three spots where we've seen a recent explosion and al-Qaeda linked attacks on America." Oh it's al Qaeda! Okay great no this is called Operation Sabre And this has been going on since September of last year you can google operation sabre

2:56:02 S-A-B-R-E. The French have been on this, they've been waiting to go in This is not like some amazing surprise...this has all been going on for almost half a year? Five months? No four months Operation Sabre has been ramping up and it is mind-boggling that when we did this in Libya, the approach was oh let's do it through the United Nations and we'll do a no fly zone. Now it's just like no questions asked! We have you know couple of dudes from Canada go in shoot up the place little bit... Have you seen all kinds of family members on television being interviewed about their family being taken hostage or being killed?

2:56:46 I'm sure some of these BP executives have family members that were being interviewed. John, you've seen them all over the place haven't you? I haven't been watching it. No because you haven't. You haven't seen a single one being interviewed...a single one! Well, maybe because there's none to interview. Yeah exactly yeah there's no we interview everybody about every... We interview boat heads on the street! What do you think about this election? So why won't we interview one of these people? You're claiming that there's something fishy going on? And here's another thing Since when is France our oldest and truest ally? I haven't forgotten the whole freedom fries thing. All right, remember that

2:57:30 Well I think we've dropped that, we're taking that out of the timeline. The way Microsoft took Microsoft's Bob out of its timeline. We've taken it out of the timeline now and are going back to the American Revolution. It never happened! It never ever happened! We were never pissed at the French for not following us into Iraq in 2003 right? Never ever ever happened that way so then the French You know, they decide oh let's go take Timbuktu. Oh Timbuktu we're all... this is crazy like there's terrorists Al-Qaeda! Al Qaeda! Lights off French helicopters opened the way for soldiers to be parachuted in at the northern entrance of the desert city. Paratroopers quickly deployed around the town while armored vehicles were positioning on the southern sides blocking all ways in or out

2:58:19 The airport was quickly secured. French soldiers and a few Malian units moved into town without firing a single shot. But we are not sure that there was not some terrorist cells in the town. After a bitter occupation, the fabled city was spared from further destruction as it was liberated. They've liberated! Not a single shot fired John! Liberated! Liberated! The problem is... There was no al-qaeda. No one was fighting back They literally this video you've got to see it in the show notes for a three dot and they shown us calm they bring out of a house a saxophone case in it a Saxophone, and I kid you not and five bullets

2:59:06 and they open that for the camera because there is no Al Qaeda. This is totally crazy made up now we have the Malian army, this is a French report they are practicing for warfare and the way they do it you got to see this video its fantastic They pretend to make sounds of their weapon with their mouth So, pow-pow-pow-pow! Brrrr-brrrr-brrrr. This is how they train. There's a guy with an...with an...with a rifle, full combat gear pretending to shoot and he's going poom-poom-poom-poom

3:00:03 This is how the Malian army is practicing to fight Al-Qaeda, John. It's just crazy. Okay, you have the you have the now You have the clip of the crazy clip of them all I don't mean it is idiotic I don't need I really where did you get that clip from French TV? Thank you darling That's exactly what I needed that's perfect what yes thank you. I should be getting French TV hmm How are you getting French TV how do I get French TV on the sling box? I have a french sling box

CHAPTER 33 / 35 Discussion

Cyber Command Expansion, NYT Hack and Missing Pentagon Funds

The Pentagon announced an expansion of its Cyber Command unit by 4,000 personnel following reports of the New York Times being hacked by Chinese actors. This is contrasted against the historical 2001 report by Donald Rumsfeld regarding $2.3 trillion in missing Pentagon funds, which remains unaudited.

cyber command· new york times· pentagon· donald rumsfeld· audit

3:00:49 How come I don't have access to this French sling box? Because you're not a nice man. Hey, Frenchie! Where we got that from? Send me the link! Jeez... And then right on the heels of the Pentagon You know, the French never donate but they donated you access to one sling box in France Right on the heels of the Pentagon announcing They are beefing up their Cyber Command Unit By more than 4,000 people. Hello you want a job? That's the job you wanna go...4,000 people in their cyber command unit Oh what happens? The New York Times gets hacked by the Chiners How insulting does this have to get

3:01:40 I mean, it doesn't matter. We already know that you're gonna do it. We already know that... Yeah just take the money! Please! Quit pulling this crap out of me. Actually probably be less transparent if they just took the money So this is really just steal it well in fact they did only two trillion dollars missing on September 10th 2001 Bob Rumsfeld, then Secretary of Defense says well there's two trillion dollars missing we can't find it the next day 9-11 happens. Remember that? Yeah I do remember that yeah we should find out lost a lot of money and then the Pentagon still will not let us audit them you can audit the Fed but you can't audit the Pentagon now you can't really audit the Fed either well you heard what he said I believe him

3:02:29 You can audit the Fed, you just can't audit their decision-making process. We should play that clip again... I thought we had that as an evergreen? That Rumsfeld... Let me see..I think i have it here This is September 10th 2001 Donald Rumsfeld then the Secretary of Defense for the Bush administration in an interview and this is it I think why do not hear anything That's annoying. Nah, I don't know what the hell that is. You know what? Remind me to pull that clip. Hate it when i don't have it

CHAPTER 34 / 35 Discussion

Deer Antler Spray, IGF-1 and Sports Performance

The use of "deer antler spray" by professional athletes is investigated. The substance contains IGF-1, a growth factor similar to human growth hormone. The hosts browse Amazon for the product, noting its availability and the various claims made about its effectiveness for muscle recovery and immune system support.

deer antler spray· igf-1· hgh· amazon· sports supplements

3:03:26 I have everything else. I mean, I got a little girl saying science... Yeah, sure you've got it just have it mislabeled see that's why you mock me for my coding. I am so good at finding clips come on! Well you are pretty good but you just dropped the ball right here I've lost all confidence So I have a clip that what I want to play because I want you to tell me what's weird about this clip ready? Uh..I don't know which clip I'm playing Dear Antler Tell me what's weird about this. Are you satisfied? Is it time to forget this and move on?" Well, I don't think we found out a whole bunch more information. Um...I was ready to move on. Now, I'm not that surprised dear Antler. I know about it. I know professional athletes are using it It's unfortunate had to come out with media day here but it's part of the process Okay, I did not Google it but is this some kind of weird locker room sex game

3:04:36 I said not Google it. I was hoping, I should have told you not to Google it. I didn't google! So what is deer antler spray? So I'm just listening to the TV and I catch this and I just record it and say I gotta remember to look this up. What is... so apparently one of these football players was using deer antlers spray and oh it's violence It's actually kind of interesting. I don't know how it works or even if it does work, but apparently there is this stuff you can buy that's literally made from deer antlers and there's like an analog of human growth enzyme, human growth whatever it is HGH, human growth hormone called IGT or something like that that is derived literally from deer antlers

3:05:23 And it pumps you up, you get all muscular. You spray it under your tongue. Really? I thought this whole thing...I've never even heard of anything like this! Last thing I heard was some kid sniffing glue. I mean, I'm completely out of touch! Come on man, you gotta get with the kids man! Where do you get it?! Apparently its legal Let's see if we can buy it on Amazon. Hold on a second. Oh, let's see Amazon I'm gonna buy some purchase some does it make you oh did I just get an 8-1 service unavailable amazon.com Wow Wow that was weird I got a one dot eight years on the wrong thing well then can you hit Amazon right now? I'll tell you right now here We go boom yep

3:06:17 Hmm and I'll search for deer antler spray. Yeah, you're antler Spray, why does it have to be a spray? Can it be a lozenge? I'm ordering some I finally got through dear and her spray. I want it to be at loss And in the category health and personal care yeah, oh yeah What is this Oh Wow It's not cheap It's not expensive. $25? It's marked down to 20, it's 68 dollars marked down to twenty bucks for two ounces I got two ounces here 25 bucks Okay i got that one Deer antlers But the one above it You don't get the one above from deer buy deer antler spray this is by dear antler Product description This was by CCL and there's another one from Buy Now Foods There only 16 bucks How about you can get deer antler capsules They dont think they have lozenges but they have a capsule

3:07:18 It's supposed to be straight under the tongue, so that is not going to do you much good. Deer antler is a natural source for a growth factor which... IGF-1! That's what it is and these guys are just selling as straight up as IGF but they're charging too much money for it What is IGF? That's the hormone that's kind of an analogue of the human growth hormone that used in sports to pump these guys up. Right. Pump Up But will make me all pumped? Will I be excellent at... If you exercise a little bit you know, just sit there doing podcasts all day. It's just your butt is going to get bigger. Excuse me? Just doing podcasts all day? Am I going to get buffed up by doing podcasts?! What is this? I hear you say... Ask Dr John! Dr John if I take the deer spray and do podcast all day will my butt get big?

3:08:12 So, I have to say this is a public service to our listeners that we come forward with this sort of information because there's probably a few people out there that would like to try it. No usually... When they make illegal which I guarantee will happen if he gets much attention Oh yeah well usually we try it out first. I mean this is kind of what... Elk velvet antler powder 100% pure Canadian elk improves immune system But that's elk! That's not the same as deer No, it's not actually. Here testo-rex! There is a buck powered red deer antler velvet My goodness! It's just crap load of these things two pages of them This is great Even now foods are one of the major suppliers of those Will I grow man boobs? Well, I don't know Is that what you want? No! Why do you ask in this sort of plaintive way? Some hopeful...it was a hopeful question

3:09:12 Wow, okay. Well that's interesting John I'm glad you spent your time wisely this week well as some I needed to know Wow never heard of this thing anyway go on Go on with your more important clips. Yeah, well the- You're not caring to inform the medical desiring public about deer antlers By the way I don't get how this can even be possible Deer antlers? It's like licking a toad you know is that gonna be an interesting- That's exactly like licking a toad Have you ever licked a toad? And who came up with this idea was it the Chinese they're always into antlers yeah Did um

CHAPTER 35 / 35 Discussion

Constitutional Disobedience, Louis Michael Seidman and Super Bowl

Georgetown Law professor Louis Michael Seidman argues in a CBS segment that Americans should "give up on the Constitution," calling it an outdated document. The hosts critique this view as elite anti-Americanism. The episode concludes with a mention of the upcoming Super Bowl and Beyonce's performance before signing off.

u.s. constitution· louis michael seidman· georgetown law· super bowl· beyonce

3:09:59 Have you ever licked a toad? No. I don't do stuff like that. Isn't that supposed to make ya high? Yeah, I guess... get a buzz. At least Homer Simpson does! I want to announce right now due to the enormous success uh... i'm going to an end of show clip again?! You bumped my end-of-show clip two weeks in a row! What's your end-of-show clip? Nah, I don't wanna play it because I already explained it during the Michael Hayden Rodriguez testimony before the public about their using enhanced interrogation for good reasons. So your clip is gold? It's a... My clip is set up yeah it does need setup I just I'll just tell you what it is, its constitutional scholar and professor Lewis Michael Seidman and he is on CBS he gets a little intro and he essentially says

3:11:02 We should do away with the Constitution. We don't need it, it's a document written by a bunch of old dead dudes Wow and he is a constitutional guy? Yeah And what is wrong with these people? Well I will agree with him to this extent that if we want to change the constitution... ...we have that constitutional right! Yeah all you have to do is pass an amendment Right Everyone has to agree to it 75% of states have to agree and its done Exactly uh... anyway so that'll be my interest is another which again and go out with a sickening a whole who's gonna try to just he just hates america um... not i think he loves america actually now thats that's the kind of he said it was to be an elite then i don't know display okay but in the clinton the clip he even says that he is against gun legislation is very weird it's confusing for confusing messages in this one very very confusing

3:11:59 And I think that that is about all I brought to the party Let me just see yeah, except That Burma we now have The Secretary of State has determined, pursuant to the authority delegated by the Secretary of State it is in the national interest of United States to waive the prohibitions described in Section 3A of the Burmese Freedom and Democracy Act 2003. We can now import anything you want from Burma." And what would I wanna import from Burma? Coke! Oh hello! What else comes from Burma?!

3:12:44 I don't even know that Coke comes from Burma. Are you kidding? Yeah, i'm not kidding it's all grown in South America. No! Tons of coke comes from up there. Oh man... Yo Chico You don't know about the Burmese coke? No man Say it. I gotta say Lucy or whatever it was Alright play us out Jeans Only if you say LUCY! You gotta say LUCY Hey, how come it's... what's happening here? It's not playing. Oh this is bad. Well darn what's going on? There we go all right exceptionally long show but time well spent I would say Sunday will be back We're going to do our best to avoid What is it oh when is the Super Bowl is that Sunday yeah But it doesn't start until three hours after our show is over

3:13:41 I'm looking right now. Beyonce sings national anthem live! She's rehearsing for the Super Bowl in wake of inauguration flap That's right now on... The whole thing was publicity, that's what's on CNN ladies and gentlemen Your news network Alright your news network What does it stand for again? CNN It's..I used to know it says something Something News Network Uh, what was it? Cable News Network. Oh! Cable News Network Well that's what they're playing right now And do you think you got any value from what we talked about today Did you learn something Can you get laid with your schwoz on off Will you look smart at the office Go out and hit somebody in the mouth And we'll see back on Sunday

3:14:26 In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where i am looking forward to the Super Bowl, I'm John C. Dvorak We'll be back on Sunday and I don't give a crap about the Super Bowl in the morning Is the U.S Constitution truly worthy of the reverence which most Americans hold it? A view on that from Louis Michael Seidman professor of constitutional law at Georgetown University I've got a simple idea let's give up on the constitution

3:15:03 I know, it sounds radical but it's really not. Constitutional disobedience is as American as apple pie For example most of our greatest presidents Jefferson Lincoln Wilson and both Roosevelts had doubts about the constitution and many of them disobeyed when they got in their way To be clear, I don't think we should give up on everything in the Constitution. The Constitution has many important and inspiring provisions but we should obey these because they are important and inspiring not because a bunch of people who are now long dead favored them two centuries ago

3:15:41 Unfortunately, the Constitution also contains some provisions that are not so inspiring. For example one allows a presidential candidate who is rejected by majority of the American people to assume office. Suppose that Barack Obama really wasn't a natural born citizen? So what? Constitutional obedience has a pernicious impact on our political culture Take the recent debate about gun control None of my friends can believe it, but I happen to be skeptical of most forms of gun control. I understand though that's not everyone's view and I'm eager to talk with people who disagree But what happens when the issue gets constitutionalized? Then we turn the question over to lawyers and lawyers do with it what lawyers do So instead of talking about whether gun control makes sense in our country We talk about what people thought of it two centuries ago

3:16:39 Worse yet, talking about gun control in terms of constitutional obligation needlessly raises the temperature of political discussion. Instead of a question of policy about which reasonable people can disagree it becomes a test if one's commitment to our foundational document and so to America itself This is our country we live in it and we have a right to the kind of country we want We would not allow the French or the United Nations to rule us, and neither should we allow people who died over two centuries ago and knew nothing of our country as it exists today. If we are to take back our own country, we have to start making decisions for ourselves... ...and stop deferring to an ancient and outdated document." Shut up, Wayne!

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