Episode 470 · Sunday, 16 December 2012

Civil Society

A deep dive into the militarization of the American state, the pharmaceutical industry's role in school shootings, and the tactical obfuscation of the Benghazi investigation.

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About this episode

The Sandy Hook Elementary shooting has triggered a wave of media assassination and political theater, with CNN host Piers Morgan leading an aggressive push for gun control while President Barack Obama faces scrutiny for his public display of emotion. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak analyze the discrepancies in early ballistics reports and the convenient timing of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s concussion, which has delayed her testimony regarding the Benghazi attack.

Beyond the domestic tragedy, the United States continues to expand its militaristic footprint as the White House renews its authority under the War Powers Resolution for operations in Africa and Kosovo. In the media, Dr. Sanjay Gupta and Lisa Van Susteren promote a shift toward mental health surveillance and pre-crime legislation, suggesting that biological predispositions or chemical imbalances should justify forced medication. Meanwhile, the FCC moves to seize broadcast television spectrum for mobile carriers, and the NSA continues its warrantless surveillance of internet traffic through AT&T infrastructure in San Francisco.

Adam Curry reports from his tenth day of exile in Amsterdam, navigating the bureaucratic hurdles of the O-1 visa process for his wife, Micky Curry. The duo explores the rise of the civil society meme as a tool for globalism and mocks actor Matt Damon for his comments on social justice and taxation. The episode concludes with a knighting ceremony for major donors and a look at the Dutch Christmas tradition of chocolate wreaths.


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CHAPTER 01 / 55 Discussion

No Agenda Episode 470, Gitmo Nation Media Assassination

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 470 of the No Agenda show on December 16, 2012. Curry reports from his tenth day of exile in Amsterdam, while Dvorak remains in Northern Silicon Valley. They briefly discuss a Dutch Christmas tree decorated with chocolate wreaths and the lack of bugs in the cold climate.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· amsterdam· silicon valley· gitmo nation· no agenda

00:00 This is not the kind of world that I want us to be in. Adam Curry, John C. DeVore. It's Sunday December 16th 2012 time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode 470! This is no agenda Obviously not well and coming to you from Gitmo Nation Lowlands Day 10 living in exile in Amsterdam In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where I remain I'm John C. DuBois. I can't remember the guy's first name Reynolds and they had the hostage crisis on Nightline. And they said they're gonna broadcast exclusively about this in like 79, yeah, get a broadcast exclusively and it went on and on day 210. They just kept counting the days? Yeah, covering it was good. Well, they have to keep covering that

01:11 Yeah, so we a 302 We actually we got a little Christmas tree today. Oh cute yeah it's literally like a foot high and So we got little lights And we put it in the window and then you know so we take pictures of it and then people like what are those bagels? In your tree It's a Dutch tree people we don't have bagels just like little chocolate wreaths. It's a Dutch Christmas tree a Dutch Doesn't that attract bugs? It's too cold for any bugs to be roaming around. It is cold here, man! And we're a bunch of kids from Texas. The advisability of putting food on the tree... You have a point it's just there are no bugs now zero zero bug days okay it's not happening

CHAPTER 02 / 55 Discussion

Amsterdam Exile, Celebrity Privacy, and Social Media Surveillance

Adam Curry describes the experience of living in a small Amsterdam neighborhood where he and his wife, Micky, were photographed by a stranger in a cafe. The photo was posted to gossip websites with claims that they were not getting along because they were both on their phones. This leads to a discussion about the lack of privacy faced by A-list celebrities in the United States.

amsterdam· paparazzi· social media· celebrity privacy· exile

02:08 Anyway, it's very weird to be here in these days in particular. For those of you just tuning in and have been living under a no agenda rock Miss Mickey and myself are here in exile day 10, and it looks like we will certainly be here through the well the end of the world on the 21st No doubt. And should anything continue then? It looks like we'll be here after the first of the year is taking a while and of course We have closures of government orifices etc But it's very weird to be walking around here because you know now we're kind of in this one little neighborhood and people See us on the street. Oh, you know what happened the other day John? This is amazing

02:54 I'll bite. Yeah, so we're sitting in a little cafe around the corner literally you know we'd met with some gallerist two streets over and it's freezing and then where we walk back in there were sitting inside and wearing a typical Amsterdam Cafe and you know until Mickey is looking at her phone and I'm looking my phone and you just do email just catching up on stuff as work having our coffee she's having tea and then all of sudden its own in all the gossip websites Adam and Mickey looks like they're not getting along because I had someone took a picture inside the cafe of us on our phones Like they sat there and didn't speak a word. They just sat on their phones. They're not getting it It's not okay, I think it's hilarious yeah, but we feel somewhat violated you know we're not used to this anymore

03:44 And of course now imagine being you know one of the a-list celebrities in the United States and what they have to deal with on A day-to-day basis. They can't go anywhere Maybe they get paid a lot of money for it maybe there's a trade off ah, there is the difference Yeah I guess from millions and millions of dollars you put up with a lot yeah, yeah You can get a couple of anything really Jack and So of course now people know that we're from Texas and they'll be like, hey how's that gun stuff working out in America for you huh? Smarty pants. Because in America you can still kind of crackpot

CHAPTER 03 / 55 Discussion

Federal Gun-Free School Zone Act of 1990

The discussion shifts to gun control following a recent shooting, noting that European locals often criticize American gun culture. A claim is made that the Federal Gun-Free School Zone Act of 1990, pushed by Bill Clinton, created "sitting ducks" by disarming school staff. The Libertarian Party's stance is cited, suggesting that armed principals or janitors previously deterred such attacks.

gun control· bill clinton· nra· libertarian party· school safety

04:24 You can still kind of say, like okay well you know there's a lot going on here with guns and mental health and we've got these shootings. Let's look at some other things that are going on but here it is just like yeah you and your American...you and your guns! See what happens? Yeah, well you know maybe you could throw it back at him and tell him that was actually gun control as a matter of fact had caused this problem. If you want to look into it from the... There was a memo sent out by I mean the NRA never did anything but the Libertarian Party came out and said that total like it is so the only reason this happened was the Federal Gun Free School Zone Act

05:05 which Clinton pushed through in 1990, disarmed all the schools so nobody could have a gun within 1,000 feet including an off-duty police officer without getting five years in jail. And then they made one two three four five six seven eight examples before that law was passed and then they had some other minor examples about how these situations were nipped in the bud by a principal who had a gun or one of the...or janitor who had a gun on his truck or whatever came out did some damage and in fact the interesting thing to me is that portland thing which died on the vine i didn't realize it that it was uh... some gunman nurse i mean they could be done in was there any was confronted by a shopper carrying a concealed weapon when he shot himself here about this

CHAPTER 04 / 55 Discussion

Piers Morgan, CNN International, and NRA Debate

Adam Curry critiques CNN International's coverage of the gun debate, specifically focusing on host Piers Morgan. A clip is played featuring Morgan arguing with an NRA representative and Congressman Gary Ackerman. Morgan is criticized for his aggressive stance on gun control and his past involvement in the British phone-hacking scandal.

piers morgan· cnn· nra· gun lobby· second amendment

05:49 of course not but that's not in the list i just got played right now you can hear about this and i think that will be a bit of an old portland it was dropped like a hot potato because it was going to be didn't work didn't pan out or he didn't get everyone talking about uh... you know getting guns off the street and let me since you bring up the nr eight because of course the only thing i do have here Is we've got some CNN and CNN International by the way I think we should have that on on our cable stations in in the US because it is To some extent much more interesting. It really does have some interesting stuff There's also some incredibly boring stuff, but of course they run Pierce Moran who had? what do you have he had on a guy from the NRA and

06:33 uh... congressman adler from new york effect i did and i just love the uh... the mean that's been important more on is his he's out of control by the way it was in the middle of a debate in this area week are full of all costa san jose morazan following a robin debating if a month if not to hear because you know pierces of course the hero american hero for gun control now visit British douchebag, I'm so frustrated. I'm so furious He's furious about all about him about the phone hacking scandal that you ran away from her hiding from in New York Boy who's got problems

07:15 takes his mother's three weapons, including this ridiculous assault rifle and goes in a school and kills his kids. And you guys on the gun lobby still want to tell me the answer is more guns? It is madness! But where... why isn't it so? Now wait for us. Stop somewhat with shooting people. You can let the congressman speak. What you oughta be most angry about is that every poll shows that by massive majorities Americans agree with what you just said and yet we have a lobby the leadership of the NRA who function as enablers of mass murder so, enablers of mass murder which is pretty big statement

CHAPTER 05 / 55 Discussion

Militarization of the American State and Media Violence

The hosts argue that the United States has become a militaristic state, citing President Obama's "kill list" and frequent drone strikes. They suggest that the prevalence of violent entertainment, including movies and video games, contributes to a culture of violence. They contrast the government's push for gun control with the heavy presence of armed soldiers seen in media coverage of domestic tragedies.

barack obama· drone strikes· video games· militarism· gun lobby

07:55 But this idea that the American people are universally against guns, yet the NRA lobby is huge. This propagates here in Europe. People know about the NRA and they say well you know that hasn't changed in America because of your gun lobby right? The gun lobby! I said now I think Americans kind of want the guns otherwise it would have changed And not the guns because we're sitting ducks. I mean, the whole thing is let's take away... Like i said it was gun legislation Gun control that now have turned all this all the schools into sitting ducks for some maniac those guns aren't I mean you can make all yeah Yeah, I'm all for if you can make all the guns magically disappear so there's no such thing as a gun including when they

08:45 doing that if you've got to see all the video of this whole event, all these soldiers wandering around with their AK-47s. I know! What was up with that? Or whatever the hell they were, M16's. Wandering around in full gear and talking about scaring the kids... Let's take a look at it. We have a military state we have a president who has a kill list. We're droning children constantly which was kind of weird when Obama was feeling bad about these poor dead children, which was a huge tragedy of course. this is a military say we got wars going on we have movies that are extremely violent there's been nothing like in the history of uh... entertainment i mean if you look at these days they get video games that are good better dangerous or violent and everything is violence by his violence and then you say well should have no guns i mean best ever gonna fly in anybody thinks that everybody doesn't want guns nuts love playing with gun i'm always the problem is is that

CHAPTER 06 / 55 Discussion

War Powers Resolution, Military Operations in Africa and Kosovo

President Obama reportedly sent a letter to Congress to re-up his authority under the War Powers Resolution of 2001. The document outlines ongoing military operations in Afghanistan, Africa, Kosovo, and Egypt, as well as maritime interception operations. The hosts note the lack of mainstream media reporting on the continued military presence in these regions.

war powers resolution· afghanistan· kosovo· egypt· al-qaeda

09:44 idea everybody's armed and nobody nobody goes into a police like the libertarian newsletters says nobody goes into a police station to shoot it out with the cops because they all have guns so they pick on a school where there is NO GUNS ALLOWED I'm always looking for what's taking place while these types of headlines are propagating throughout the world of so-called news. And it was very interesting to see that the president slipped in his letter from the President to Congress for the War Powers Resolution, to re-up his power under the enactment of the War Powers Resolution which was enacted October 7th 2001

10:25 did you see any reporting on that? No, there's no such thing as reporting. He lays it all out Where, let's see... Because of the Al-Qaeda and the Taliban we've got to have all these security details everywhere. And he lays it all out there you know? We've got our 65 thousand people in Afghanistan and all the way into Africa You'll see in show notes Did you know that we have a whole bunch of people in Kosovo Still? Yeah, I didn't know that. So we're still in Kosovo We've got military operations in Egypt Maritime interception operations so all of this you know Military operation Central Africa so yeah no You're absolutely right we are a complete militaristic state

CHAPTER 07 / 55 Discussion

Adam Lanza, Psychotropic Drugs, and Prepper Culture

The discussion focuses on the Sandy Hook shooter, Adam Lanza, and reports that he may have been on psychotropic medication. His mother is described as a "prepper" or survivalist who was stockpiling food and guns in anticipation of an economic collapse. The hosts highlight the contradictory nature of early police and media reports regarding the shooter's identity and motives.

adam lanza· sandy hook· psychotropic drugs· survivalism· preppers

11:13 It's very difficult. He was a slightly autistic, his mother was weird I guess. There's no doubt in fact there is evidence and reports that he was on something. He looked like that red headed kid zombified by something and went off probably under some sort of psychological state of craziness. So this is exactly... And this isn't discussed at all, have you seen one report on the on this kid being drugged? No well it's starting to happen now that the report that I saw just before the show started-this is the one that just killed me apparently his mom was a prepper

12:11 Okay, does this tell her to explain the six guns right? Does this start to complete the whole story so she was a quote survivalist Preparing for the end of the world economy by stockpiling food Having gun. She taught her son how to how to use the gun obviously So there's really only I have three Three clips really that matter in regards to this because you know what happened how it happened and It's, you know we don't have any real information. We don't actually know what is going on. No there has been contradictory reports from the beginning First it was the older brother who wasn't even in town I mean this is like the kind of police and reporting that went on

CHAPTER 08 / 55 Discussion

Clint Van Zandt, FBI Profiling, and Media Dramatization

NBC News featured ex-FBI profiler Clint Van Zandt to explain the psychology behind mass shootings. The hosts criticize the media for creating a "script" that links different shootings, such as those involving Gabby Giffords and the Aurora theater. They accuse Brian Williams and Van Zandt of dramatizing the events and potentially laying the groundwork for a government conspiracy narrative.

clint van zandt· brian williams· fbi· nbc news· mind control

12:54 Anyway, play your clips and I want to see what you got. uh... and and by the way the experts is always we want to look at that the experts they bring into the story uh... so you have one guy who works for a hill in old town who's you know uh... do he was pretending to be the head of some anti-gun lobby uh... then we have this van zandt guy the van zandt guys on the he's in there nbc and mp this is a him with their brian williams

13:40 I wrote this down, Clint Van Zandt. And Clint Van Zandt he is an ex-FBI profiler and negotiator famously known for his excellent work with the Branch Davidian compound and David Koresh so you know the guy has a quite a track record of making things turn out well And he and Brian Williams, it's like they were given a script to explain to people what this is where it's coming from and how its all related to the same thing which for my money could almost be turned around into saying oh my god this is how they take these exact same people mind control them into doing this stuff. What kind of person takes the lives

14:28 20 little children you touched on this and Pete Williams is reporting earlier this evening And I know there's probably a deeper psychological Explanation but so now he knows that there's a deeper psychological explanation which of course is meant to come out later It said me. He's literally saying look, I know this is all coming up with let's just lay the groundwork This is someone to put it differently who? walked among us as of yesterday, recently. Walked among us could be more! As this morning and these are questions Brian we continue to ask ourselves we asked about the individual who shot Congressperson Gabby we ask about I love how he's such a bonehead congress person Gabby okay well how about Giffords try that The individual who did the Aurora Colorado shooting

15:22 colorado caracol ralph and the are shooting earlier this week at the uh... portland now oregon mall well i was those last two shootings that i just talked about same type of dress brian door clothing uh... boots we don't need to be done even know if this is this kid had any of that but he's laying it out for you dark clothing blues are either a bulletproof vest or a weight-bearing drastic multiple magazines this is almost like someone is in this fantasy idea that there's some type of a combatant, a superhero but Brian they're going to war against the most vulnerable of society John do you get the feeling I got when I was hearing this? Yeah it sounds like... we can't put it there but It almost sounds like a government conspiracy to have all bunch these kids go out and do stuff

16:18 I mean it's like they're making it up. This is not, this is not like some coincidence that you just all of a sudden stumbling on here and in this case when you have someone today who first committed matricide the killing of his mother now that's a big one there I'm going to give that a big ding the matricide meme This is new. Brian, that's such a taboo in every society that once that takes place you're really capable of almost doing anything else and today the two taboos that most of us may well hold closest-the injury or killing of your mother and the harming of innocent children this shooter did both

17:00 And Clint, of course the reason you and I have spent so much time on television over the years is we've turned to you to explain awful mass crimes in this country. The question is... You were just talking about things like body armor and-and the getup these young gunmen have used in these crimes we've come to know. Now forgive me if I'm wrong There was no get up that the Loughner used when he shot in Arizona. There was no get-up there, they're just making this up right? This is just bullcrap! They're dramatizing it a dramatic situation and they're essentially lying

17:36 uh... modifying it for some reason. They're lying! Come to know, Aurora comes to mind how he walked in that theater that night which is- He didn't walk in that theater that night there was a whole different sequence of events Has anything changed in your view? has there been any new militarism to some of these mass murderers Well, and again Brian we see about 20 on the average. I know it's crazy. A range of mass multiple shootings or mass murders like this per year realize today in China 33 children were slashed at an elementary school

CHAPTER 09 / 55 Discussion

China School Attacks, Sanjay Gupta, and Lisa Van Susteren

A comparison is made between American shootings and a recent incident in China where 22 children were slashed at an elementary school. The segment introduces Dr. Sanjay Gupta and Lisa Van Susteren, whom the hosts identify as a CIA consultant. They argue that the media focus is shifting from gun control to the pharmaceutical industry and mental health surveillance.

china· sanjay gupta· lisa van susteren· cia· knife attacks

18:14 So he's kind of contradicting, first of all he throws out the 33 million. He totally is contradicting himself. This China thing was a guy with a knife and by the way this has been going on in China for a couple years now there have been these crazy guys running into schools and stabbing kids with you see a or hatchet there's a couple of acts guys and i mean they have started hacking away nobody knows quite what to do about it so guess one of the visible for the things that chinese government is now doing making register resign your name night Yeah, if the knife is too big you have to register like the guy. This is where this all leads it doesn't do any good. No okay window dressing so here's the clip that really brought it all home for me and here we have this is CNN and this is Sanjay Gupta who of course as you know is a medical professional

19:06 And Sanjay Gupta is on, and he's on via remote. But in the studio is Lisa Van Susteren And Lisa Van Susteren essentially works for the CIA. I'm looking at her Wikipedia page here, completed a residency training in psychiatry at St. Elizabeth Hospital in Washington DC board certified she works as consultant to the Central Intelligence Agency conducting psychological assessments of world leaders an assistant clinical professor of psychiatry at Georgetown University Department of Psychiatry, volunteers for physicians for human rights. So this is a shill, it's just an obvious shill and the guns thing is one and I'm sure you've got a lot of thoughts about that about getting rid of guns handing your guns register your guns forget about whatever it

20:01 But of course this kid was on like 40% of all children are on some form of psychotropic drug, whether it's a Ritalin Adderall or Xanax. Eventually they will but I want you to listen to what she is pushing for and she is clearly from the Washington establishment And it is frightening to hear what she is pushing for legislation-wise. Forget about guns, that's not what this is about people! This is all about the pharmaceutical industry. Stand by and get ready.

CHAPTER 10 / 55 Discussion

Mental Health Legislation, Pre-Crime, and Forced Treatment

Lisa Van Susteren advocates for new legislation that would allow authorities to intervene before a crime is committed if an individual shows "warning signs" of mental instability. These signs include anger, isolation, and a fascination with guns. The hosts compare this to "pre-crime" and express concern that such laws would allow the state to forcibly medicate or institutionalize citizens based on perceived threats.

mental health· legislation· pre-crime· psychiatry· civil liberties

20:45 family members, friends they don't pay attention to them. No we don't have John you gotta pay attention your kids because the warning signs are there! Well that's not entirely fair I'll tell you why and been doing this business for 25 years there are plenty of families who were distraught who have members of their family their children that they know our dangerous and live with this anguish is not being able to do anything for them. My head is now spinning It's like, oh yes I know so many families who are just they could they said no one will listen my child is dangerous. For weeks and months and years the reality is that we really don't have the legislation that allows people in authority either doctors or officials other officials to do what must be done. Yes! Oh yeah, we don't have the legislation to come in and shoot you

21:38 or your kids, or anybody else up with any kind of drugs because you look like you might be a menace to society. So now I'm ready for this conversation but the extent that this woman goes through is mind-boggling. Until the person has committed a crime and that's when they come into their attention so it's just not entirely true that people are in denial What are the warning signs that people should be looking at for someone who might go out and start killing kids? There are plenty of families who do respond warning signs and they will call the authorities. Okay, what are the warning signs? John do you have a pen and paper? You better write it down! I'm writing it down here come the warning signs as they will see that their child is angry. Oh my kid is angry

22:20 Oh no, a kid is angry. Oh stop the pressure! A kid got... oh wait it gets better. Isolated. Isolated sitting brooding in his room. Clearly potentially responding to auditory hallucinations they hear voices I hear voices in my head maybe a fascination with guns maybe they're at a shooting range How do we go from the kids angry to the kids on the shooting range or maybe if you're playing a war of worldcraft, you know the war of worldcraft. Hey mom! Mom I'm gonna go to the shooting range later tonight. They know something's wrong well You can't call the police and say my son is acting weird come and get him he

23:09 That's what we should be doing apparently. It needs help they don't have any justification for doing that so there is in most jurisdictions it's almost impossible until you've actually committed a crime to intervene in a way that can protect our society, that's what has to be changed is the legislation So we can act before a crime okay? Yeah, so what she saying is This is just the beginning. So what she's saying, and this is the woman who works for the Washington establishment and she has been doing it for 25 years as she pointed out we need legislation so that you can force Medicaid or lock up your clearly deranged child. Let's go to Sanjay Gupta. Sanjay, you study the brain.

23:53 I'm sorry, did you know that Sanjay studies the brain? John? Yeah they push this... he's a neurological surgeon or something. He studies the brain! I thought he was- But he just studies the brain. I thought it was a virologist and last time i looked he knew everything about swine flu. It's like me, you know, you call give me all these titles. Yeah, right same thing Sanjay you study the brain all the time are there all the time? Sanjay Gupta so anyone now some people get up and just go to work Sanjay Gupta gets up and studies the brain people chemical imbalances here Chemical problems that create a killer like this

CHAPTER 11 / 55 Discussion

Sanjay Gupta on Brain Predisposition and Mental Illness

Dr. Sanjay Gupta discusses the idea that people may be biologically predisposed to violence due to chemical imbalances or DNA. He compares mental illness to physical diseases like diabetes or cancer to justify medical treatment. The hosts criticize this perspective, suggesting it leads to a society where professionals, rather than judges, decide who should be medicated or detained.

sanjay gupta· dna· mental illness· neurology· pharmaceutical industry

23:09 That's what we should be doing apparently. It needs help they don't have any justification for doing that so there is in most jurisdictions it's almost impossible until you've actually committed a crime to intervene in a way that can protect our society, that's what has to be changed is the legislation So we can act before a crime okay? Yeah, so what she saying is This is just the beginning. So what she's saying, and this is the woman who works for the Washington establishment and she has been doing it for 25 years as she pointed out we need legislation so that you can force Medicaid or lock up your clearly deranged child. Let's go to Sanjay Gupta. Sanjay, you study the brain.

23:53 I'm sorry, did you know that Sanjay studies the brain? John? Yeah they push this... he's a neurological surgeon or something. He studies the brain! I thought he was- But he just studies the brain. I thought it was a virologist and last time i looked he knew everything about swine flu. It's like me, you know, you call give me all these titles. Yeah, right same thing Sanjay you study the brain all the time are there all the time? Sanjay Gupta so anyone now some people get up and just go to work Sanjay Gupta gets up and studies the brain people chemical imbalances here Chemical problems that create a killer like this

24:32 I think so. Yeah, and I think you know I agree with your guest as well that you know I mean look these things they used to be sort of in the in the realm of the anecdotal You know now there's objective evidence objective evidence Of what we can see happen. It means like certainly in the brain there may be people who are more predisposed or set up for This gets even better when you're born we can check your DNA to see if you're predisposed for it or set up for and then something Pushes them over the edge. It's unclear obviously in most of these situations But you know I think that to think of mental illness as a real disease And and when you start thinking about it like that, it changes everyone's perspective You think about it more?

25:19 like you would think of someone who has heart problems again or cancer or diabetes it's just like having a cancer, or like diabetes. You can get a pill because you have a real disease It changes everyone's perspective in terms of how you potentially think about within your own family potentially getting diagnosed and treated Again I agree with John, i'm going to turn you in I think I should be good. That's potentially how he died any good legislation to stop me Yes, it's hard to do sometimes we're not talking about you gotta hear this woman one more time She's coming back This is fantastic Sanjay Gupta needs a shut up because he's like ruining the whole segment now and this woman's gonna take it back somebody show Up and take a family member away We're talking about someone, you know being able to talk about it openly make sure that they have taking me away

26:04 me away mommy resources they can go see somebody it's not easy it's not even available for many people around the country wolf and if no one Lisa has committed a crime yet but there are these signs out there there are great crime before its a crime It's pre-crackers. uh... of the other way they're making the association here that if you go to the practice range to shoot off a few rounds your killer dear buddy or killer really planning to kill somebody so it's not good people should be up in arms about this disorder wait a minute wait a minute she's gonna finish it off and then you'll really be open arms i want to go out there and kill people at home this is my ringtone i wanna go to kill people are going to track this ranges

26:59 Is it usually an indication of a psychiatric problem that can be treated for example with medicine? Oh, could it be treated with the medicine. Sure if you think they're going to take the medicine but usually when you have a person thats like that They won't acknowledge there's anything wrong Try getting them into treatment try getting them to take that pill You need to force them into treatment They won't do it not everybody is out doing this But for those who do It's because they have most likely refused treatment. I'll bet you anything that most of the people we're talking about and the person were talking about today was clearly to his family a danger, and they just didn't know what to do and they didn't have legislation and that's the problem. Is this amazing?

27:46 That's, I mean so we can just sit here and wait for the legislation to come. To back them up so that we could take action now i'll just add this a number of decades ago we were very fearful that people would be thrown into hospital just because they were different Yeah! Because of people like you lady crazy We wanted to protect them so we enacted all sorts of laws to protect people we've gone too far in that direction Now we have to face the reality and acknowledge that we have to step Our work getting people into treatment when they need it and letting doctors make those decisions, not just lawyers and judges. Wow! This is fantastic. She literally is saying that we were trying to protect people just because you're different, you're a little crazy like you have Tourette's syndrome or something

28:35 and uh... and we went too far in protecting these people now we have to take them and we have to get the medicated properly and quickly and not just let lawyers make decisions of politicians but professionals, yeah the law shouldn't have anything to do with it no only professionals like medical doctors like Sanjay Gupta who study the brain this is what is frightening me about this occurrence I have the one clip that fits into this. Just, this was...I think i heard this once on all the reports on CNN and they pulled it but this is the one that just kind of like oh really? Play neighbor with conflicting information. Got a closer look at the shooter, the 20 year old Adam Lanza you're getting new information Brian what are you learning? Well if police say they're picking up what they call good evidence about Adam Lanza his mother- Is that the right clip?!

CHAPTER 12 / 55 Discussion

Neighbor Testimony on Adam Lanza's Character

A news clip features a neighbor of Adam Lanza who describes him as a normal, quiet kid who did not exhibit antisocial behavior or a noticeable obsession with guns. The hosts highlight this as conflicting information that contradicts the dominant media narrative of Lanza as a deeply troubled individual.

adam lanza· sandy hook· witness testimony· news reporting

29:26 This says neighbor with conflicting information. Okay, play it. His motive for this unspeakable act is still not clear, law enforcement officials say. And in digging for details about shooter Adam Lanza and his family accounts emerged that are still confusing sometimes conflicting A neighbor who knew him in recent years describes Lanza as troubled but listen to this account from a young man who knew him This was the kid Just the kid? It's the kid

30:04 Never anti-social? No, I'm just gonna... no. Troublemaker? No, definitely not. Noticeable? Did he just kind of blend into the background? Yeah Nothing that would warrant any of this Was he very quiet and they kept himself and that he have been obsession with guns? And sometimes say I know they're trying to leave the guy but the guys a neighbor you just tell by looking at me saying Just some kid. I mean, it wasn't anything weird or anything That was let me ask your question now Some mate I'm probably different but I certainly can remember as a kid I Know that I have said at a certain point and I've in

30:46 Of course, I'm sure other kids have said this. I wish you were dead! Have you ever said that when you were a kid? Nah, I don't think so... Yeah, well I think a lot of kids say that. Oh, I think it's said all the time. If they show it in sitcoms, its not a new thing. So now if you say that, you're like uh oh we better get this kid some drugs and luckily we'll have legislation that will enable this so that your neighbors can then call up and say hey you know this kid he's like so by the way yeah you know there's drugging all these kids just gonna make this worse well i mean this is not a coincidence if these things are happening in that way or drug them even more. I have in the show notes uh 470 dot nashownotes dot com, a beautiful list now the list

CHAPTER 13 / 55 Discussion

SSRI Drugs and School Shooting Statistics

The hosts discuss the correlation between school shootings and the use of SSRI antidepressants, citing a list from SSRIstories.com. They mention specific cases from 2001 to 2008 where shooters were reportedly using or withdrawing from drugs like Prozac and Paxil. They argue that the focus should be on the effects of these drugs rather than bullying or gun laws.

ssri· prozac· paxil· school shootings· bullying

30:04 Never anti-social? No, I'm just gonna... no. Troublemaker? No, definitely not. Noticeable? Did he just kind of blend into the background? Yeah Nothing that would warrant any of this Was he very quiet and they kept himself and that he have been obsession with guns? And sometimes say I know they're trying to leave the guy but the guys a neighbor you just tell by looking at me saying Just some kid. I mean, it wasn't anything weird or anything That was let me ask your question now Some mate I'm probably different but I certainly can remember as a kid I Know that I have said at a certain point and I've in

30:46 Of course, I'm sure other kids have said this. I wish you were dead! Have you ever said that when you were a kid? Nah, I don't think so... Yeah, well I think a lot of kids say that. Oh, I think it's said all the time. If they show it in sitcoms, its not a new thing. So now if you say that, you're like uh oh we better get this kid some drugs and luckily we'll have legislation that will enable this so that your neighbors can then call up and say hey you know this kid he's like so by the way yeah you know there's drugging all these kids just gonna make this worse well i mean this is not a coincidence if these things are happening in that way or drug them even more. I have in the show notes uh 470 dot nashownotes dot com, a beautiful list now the list

31:34 Unfortunately, it's not as complete as I'd like it to be. It goes up until the end of 2011 maybe just an annual thing. It is SSRIstories.com and gives you an overview every single crime that has been committed by kids on drugs And if you see 2008 school shooting this was Illinois a kid was withdrawing from Prozac 2005 Minnesota Prozac antidepressant, 2001 Paxil antidepressant school shooting. This is all these school shootings that are all related and by the way this is the same for these kids that kill themselves after being bullied they're all on some kind of drug this is the problem it's but you know instead of that oh let's make some more bully legislation no the problem yeah I'm Jackie's are drugged

32:29 This bullying has to come out on this kid too eventually. Oh yeah, of course that's why he was on the drugs in the first place! But whatever the reason he was on the drugs I think it was because they couldn't deal with his Asperger's and you know... They just instead of letting him grow up to be a normal person, like Bill Gates. Yes thank you. He ends up being major philanthropist and he's well-adjusted I wouldn't call it well adjusted by any means but he is not going out shooting people. He is not the sexiest man alive and we will agree with that but he is interesting you know he made the maybe eugenicist but he's still interesting k well you have to kill people today there you go yeah i don't fit in anyway so of course the other side of uh... all this is not so much as what happened or how it happens what's being done with that right now shootings of recent years have not led to stricter gun laws oh and this is interesting by the way we'll hold on a second was just supposed

CHAPTER 14 / 55 Discussion

Armed Citizens as Deterrents to Mass Shootings

The discussion highlights several instances where armed citizens or staff members stopped school shootings, including events in Pearl, Mississippi, and Grundy, Virginia. They argue that "gun-free zones" criminalize self-defense and that the presence of armed individuals acts as a deterrent. A 2002 terrorist attack in an Israeli school is also cited as an example of an armed teacher stopping a massacre.

self-defense· pearl mississippi· grundy virginia· israel· gun laws

33:29 Is this supposed to be, by the way again I'm going to remind everybody that this was stricter gun laws with the passage of the notice boards around schools. So explain exactly what you mean by this so we can, because this will never fly if your ever invited on Pierce Morgan show and when you try and play this one it's just gonna yell at you realize that If you say, because of stricter gun laws this is why this happened. This is not an argument that sticks in today's world of people who are mind-controlled about what happens

34:13 This is a gun law. We're giving them an open killing field, we made the children the country of the victims." Reitz points out that merely the knowledge that armed people will be present acts as a deterrent for would-be shooters who are not going to walk into a police station because that's where their guns are. The Federal Guns Free School Zone Act prohibits carrying firearms in the school grounds, and most cases effectively criminalizing the right to self-defense in places filled with the most vulnerable citizens. And then they have a list of the 1997 school shooting in Pearl, Mississippi was halted by the school's vice principal after he retrieved the Colt 45. He kept in his truck. A 1998 middle-school shooting ended when a man living next door heard gunfire and apprehended the shooter with a shotgun. A 2002 terrorist attack in an Israeli school was quickly stopped by an armed teacher. 2002 law school shooting in Grundy,

35:08 Virginia came to an abrupt conclusion when students carrying firearms confronted the shooter. I mean, this it was gun control that caused this problem but nobody wants to address it that way! I mean the libertarians who nobody listens to anyway have really hit the nail on the head here. Can I ask you a question? The guy's an idiot! Yeah...I've got another real hot button Do you think after watching that the president was faking his crying Well, for somebody who's probably killed more children with his drones just by double tapping.

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Barack Obama's Public Crying and Drone Policy

The hosts question the sincerity of President Obama's public display of emotion following the Sandy Hook shooting. They contrast his tears for American children with his lack of public mourning for children killed by U.S. drone strikes in the Middle East. They characterize his behavior as "acting" and "political theater."

barack obama· drone strikes· political theater· compassion

35:49 i'm saying i mean it's like a good idea totally fake to me because we saw him cry after the election when he was uh... inmate when he was understaffed talking to his staff and he was really he was really uh... sad that he couldn't campaign anyone gets a lot of attention when he cries you got so much attention from that staff meeting well there is a great guy because he's you know yeah i think this possible i honestly don't think so i can believe you'd be that bad with a pretty good actor but in the end it was a big deal despite you didn't see ok to me i thought he was i mean you could be right and they could get bit the biggest phone we've ever seen this time just gonna say that guys are phony the way he was rubbing underneath his eyes the whole time and pausing like the guy's acting i'm sorry how you can hate me my wife hates me for saying it but the guy was acting i don't believe it for a second because your right waiting you never see him cry

36:41 the boys and girls that are maimed by IEDs in all these crazy wars they were in, you never see him cry for oh I'm sorry we got the Al Qaeda guy but we killed 20 other people at the wedding. I'm sorry! Never see him cry for that. The man has no compassion for anything like that so all of a sudden this now? Nahh...I'm just gonna call it as bull crap and anyone can hate me all you want but to me yeah I didn't see any tears so I am rubbing underneath his eyes It just, it made me angry. Just to see you. I can tell! Yeah well i'm sorry but you're right not to be sorry for your opinion is fine the thing that i see is exactly what you started off with there's no crying or tears for the kids we droned ever

37:24 You know, it's like hey you know I really hate doing this but we've got to get the Taliban. We've got to get Al Qaeda. I'm really sorry that sometimes children are also hurt in this! This is not the kind of world that i want us to be as a father. I really feel it how was that? Was that good? I mean...I could be president. You're kind of a cornball actor do you know that now please so uh ever see me swamp thing I did! Thanks, thanks buddy. We won't go into that. Hey i'm sag okay? I'm sag because of that story. Yeah you're saggin'. So um...

CHAPTER 16 / 55 Discussion

Sandy Hook Security Measures and Target Obfuscation Theory

The security plan at Sandy Hook Elementary, which included a video monitor and doorbell system, is described as "security theater" similar to the TSA. Adam Curry posits a theory that mass shootings might sometimes be used to obfuscate a specific target by killing many people simultaneously. He notes that the school principal, who implemented the security measures, was one of the first victims.

sandy hook· security theater· tsa· conspiracy theory

38:02 Here's another thing that was interesting, the security aspect. You played Security Report at school Why was this implemented in the first place? What were they fearful of? It's going on with chaos so this is really close to home Sandy Hook indeed quaint idyllic even quintessential New England but here too schools have stepped up security Just this year, Sandy Hook Elementary School put into place a security plan making it mandatory for visitors to ring the doorbell and only be let in if the staff recognized them through the video monitor. And if staff didn't recognize the visitor he or she needed to present a picture ID sign-in and only then would we let him go school even when Caitlin went to Sandy Hook there were emergency drills lessons that may have saved some of the children today

38:50 What did everything fail? Oh, well the guy just blew he busted the window kicked down the door came in and started shooting up devices this security It's a security theater. It's like the TSA Doesn't do anything it as far as I can turn I can tell it terrorizes the public and I think these kids must be terrorized by these Drills they put them through yeah, I mean to begin with I mean when I was a kid They used to make you jump under the desk because the Russians were gonna bomb us any minute where the whole American public has been terrorized I'm thinking that

39:39 Just let me be a crackpot for a second. Because I've seen enough of these, and I know how to stage it you know to do a drama on how they like to take... You kill like 30 people there may actually be a target in there! Right one Yeah, one. And you obfuscate the target by killing a lot of people and when yours like some sort of zombie hypnotized zombie or who knows what was wrong with this guy and he comes in there and murders a bunch of people He may have been targeting... The principal was one of the people that we went right after then shot a bunch of other women because he knew that the principal was a female Now she's the one who put all the security measures in to keep people out at school

CHAPTER 17 / 55 Discussion

Ballistics Discrepancies and Hillary Clinton's Concussion

The hosts discuss conflicting reports regarding the weapons used in the Sandy Hook shooting, specifically the use of a Bushmaster rifle versus handguns. The topic then shifts to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who reportedly sustained a concussion after fainting due to a stomach virus. This injury resulted in her being unable to testify before Congress regarding the Benghazi attack.

hillary clinton· concussion· benghazi· ballistics· bushmaster

40:24 I there's something fishy about this whole thing and i'm wondering you know if there was somebody that was actually targeted for some reason that we will never find out no one is going to discuss. Let me ask you, here's something else they found it was kind of weird so first they say the Bushmaster which of course a horrible military looking gun because you can't have a gun looks like a military gun but you can have a car that looks like a formula 1 racing car anyway So now he killed how many people? 20 26 26. Okay, and according to the reports, you know, so first of all they had they know exactly what he's got a Glock He's got a Sig Sauer or he's got a Bushmaster But then it said every single person that was killed and this is this when I mean I immediately saw this one like oh They're trying to tell me something Every single person that was killed was killed with three two eleven bullets which of course is

41:21 33. But if you take 3 to 11 times 20, did he reload? I mean what did he do? So we had multiple clips... We haven't heard any of this. Well according the coroner most recent report all the kids were shot with a rifle which initially that thing was left in the car That was that the rifle was found in the car. I don't know that no, whatever the case is they were supposedly all killed with a rifle and those are 22 23 23 which is a Swift it's a bullet that's dead blows the crap out of anything It hits yeah But it doesn't make sense to me that he'd be what what's the two handguns for?

42:17 close range well but within the worst three to a lot of things are some of the at thank you thank you the whole thing is weird exactly exactly exact and it's being used leverage to its leverage if nothing else as far as i can tell his play the clinton bumps head clip This was actually my favorite of the day. News that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton sustained a concussion after fainting, our foreign affairs reporter Elise Labott is joining us now with the latest information we're getting so Elise update our viewers what do we know?

CHAPTER 18 / 55 Discussion

Hillary Clinton's Health and Benghazi Testimony Delay

Official statements from the State Department explain that Hillary Clinton is recovering at home and has been advised by doctors to avoid strenuous activity, including reading or using a computer. Dr. Sanjay Gupta provides medical commentary on the necessity of "brain rest" after a concussion. The hosts suggest the timing of the injury is convenient for avoiding the Benghazi investigation.

hillary clinton· benghazi· concussion· department of state· sanjay gupta

42:54 Well, Wolf over the week Secretary of State Clinton got a stomach virus as you know that really put her out for the whole week. She caught that on a trip to Europe earlier in the month and she had to cancel her trip to the Middle East this week where she was expected to attend a big meeting on Syria Now we hear that Secretary suffered a lot of dehydration, she fainted and were told her doctors say over the course of the week they realized that when she fainted she suffered a concussion. Let me read you a statement from her spokesman Deputy Assistant Secretary Philippe Reines

43:30 While suffering from a stomach virus, Secretary Clinton became dehydrated and fainted sustaining a concussion. She has been recovering at home and will continue to be monitored regularly by her doctors At their recommendation she will continue to work from home next week staying in contact with department and other officials. Wolf, I'm told this concussion was not severe and that secretary does intend to come back to work after some recuperation and her doctor said in a statement that she will make a full recovery work. Don't eat me Hillary Clinton! So yeah, so she had the vapors apparently And she and she kept passed out. She pooped her guts out and then she's like she fell down

44:18 Maybe in the toilet. Yeah, well this of course is all very convenient Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is out of the hospital and resting at home recovering from a concussion she sustained during a fall A spokesperson for the state department says Hillary fainted due to dehydration And hit her head during that fall I love the applause in the background like oh good job Good job good job Her doctors have asked me to stay home this next week and rest Because of a prognosis, Clinton will not testify on September's deadly attack on four Americans in Benghazi Libya. That was scheduled for next week. yet another reason and i've never heard this in my life by the way and I watch a lot of football you think somebody would have brought this up is this Sanjay Gupta information on one of these games because these guys are having concussions left to right. I've never heard this about concussions. So let's bring back our chief medical correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta himself, a neurosurgeon. The statement from... He's a neurosurgeon now! Wait a minute

45:26 he was just an indigo, he studies brains every day now he's a hurricane. Oh my goodness this guy is amazing! Doctors it's pretty interesting uh it goes beyond what the official state department statement said that's right there's people who have maybe seen this but this says over the course of the week They had evaluated her and ultimately determined that she'd sustained a concussion. What this means, obviously... This didn't happen today. She had a fainting episode hit her head that happened earlier in the week and then doctors examining her and determining that she had a concussion after that And they're also saying no strenuous activity

46:02 oftentimes they add to that wolfo which you may find interesting this idea that you don't want to uh... you almost wanna give the brain rest as well doctors will literally say don't read anything, don't watch television, don't get on a computer. You really wanna put the brain to rest for awhile to allow the brain recover from concussion because of the statement from the state department her spokesman basically said she's working from home and the doctors are saying they strongly advise her to cancel all work events for the coming week. Supposed to appear before the House and Senate this week on December 20th, on the Benghazi killing of four Americans including U.S. Ambassador State Department report is about to be released on what exactly happened she obviously can't do that. Okay

CHAPTER 19 / 55 Discussion

Jason Chaffetz and Missing Benghazi Witnesses

Congressman Jason Chaffetz accuses the State Department of hiding survivors and witnesses of the Benghazi attack. He claims that 20 Americans were evacuated to Germany but have not been made available for interviews. Chaffetz expresses frustration over the lack of subpoenas and suggests that Susan Rice's withdrawal from the Secretary of State nomination is linked to the upcoming Blue Ribbon Commission report.

jason chaffetz· benghazi· state department· subpoenas· susan rice

46:50 She can't, there's another reason you know you could maybe make her go to sleep but she can't think. You can't look at a computer! Well it was interesting because I caught this in relation to this Shafitz He's the guy that we kind of like, this Shafitz dude. Yeah, Shafitz we like! We kind of like him so he is on I think Fox. Now right after this Benghazi thing happened you know we saw immediately that there were 30 people who were also at this consulate who were flown off to Germany and we never heard from them again

47:28 Right? It's like, you know we never heard... and apparently some of them were actually wounded. But a lot of them or all of them were actual witnesses to the event these people have not been interviewed there is no press trying to get him there is no international press. So they've, you know, and Chaffetz is now saying well I really would like to speak with them and of course he can't get access to them but brings up multiple things. He brings up Hillary's not testifying, you know basically she needed to fall down and hit her head but also the convenient timing of Susan Rice saying oh no I don't think i should be Secretary of State all this is coming to a head at exactly the right moment because there's a little

48:13 report that's due. Congressman Jason Chaffetz accusing the State Department of hiding survivors of and witnesses to the Benghazi terror attack he says the state department won't identify who they are or grant access to survivors who are still in the hospital congressman chaffetz joins us good evening sir hi Greta Now, I've done a little some mathematics and it looks like there were 20 Americans who were evacuated from Benghazi. Have you had access to any of those 20 to ask them questions about what happened? Oh no, absolutely not. Now when I went to Libya and I remember I went to Tripoli, I was able to visit with some people who there had first-hand knowledge but we asked very specifically not only about the four people that were killed but who was injured how many were injured where are they today and they have refused to do this i've asked three major television networks to help me in this quest including Fox News at a couple other again big

49:07 part of the big networks, none of them have been given this information and it's been typical when we have people killed in Iraq Afghanistan what not those names maybe are held for 48 hours but we don't know how many there are. We don't know what states they're from. We don't know who these families are and we would like to talk to them Alright, as a House Republican you're in the majority party. Why don't you just drop a subpoena on someone at the State Department to show up and ask that person under oath who are the people who were evacuated from Benghazi and where are they? Believe me, I'm a little bit frustrated that we have not been issuing subpoenas. What we are waiting for though is the State Department to issue their report. Remember they said they weren't going to offer any information until their Blue Ribbon Commission got done doing their work. They said that would take 60-65 days Well now that were closing in on month three The State Department owes us a report That's why i think Susan Rice made an announcement today because I think were on the verge of getting that report

50:07 uh... but you start to see the state department squirm a little bit they're saying now well maybe we'll just give you the summary of may be in our secretary clinton might not come up i think the report if it's done accurately is going to be a very difficult thing for the white house the state department the department of defense and the cia to explain I'm optimistic but i think that's why Susan Rice made the announcement today and we want to get that report in and that should happen any day now it's already late. So this is so he didn't even know about Hillary falling down then pooping her hydration out, but he was already calling saying oh she probably won't come up she probably won't testify This is all bad news very very bad news going on and everyone's running away from it

CHAPTER 20 / 55 Discussion

Watergate Parallels and the Book Family of Secrets

The hosts compare the current Benghazi "cover-up" to the Watergate scandal. They reference the book *Family of Secrets* by Russ Baker, which suggests that Bob Woodward had intelligence ties and that the downfall of Richard Nixon may have been a coordinated setup. They argue that the media eventually turns on officials once a competitive storyline develops.

watergate· richard nixon· bob woodward· family of secrets· cia

50:52 well i mean if we can be stay with our basic thesis which i still think is the accurate one where this was all staged uh... as a pre of elections scam you what make the president or make you know that our government will do it in some way shape or form I think it's still, all the elements of that are still in play and in fact they just keeps being reconfirmed. Now its all about the cover up which is always what gets everybody into trouble. Always is, always is. In fact Brian... So the cover-up will be a Will be there because I you know at some point you'd think the media Because it happened with Watergate. I mean Watergate was the same thing I remember going that whole experience Following it and it was like there's something fishy that went on and then now there was no big deal And don't worry about it, and they only stopped You know and except for these two guys one of them if you know a CIA guy yeah or uh Woodward yeah

51:49 yeah woodward would work by he uh... volume according to the book of the family book of the bushes where it's very well out family secrets family secret they will outline how what would regard his positions as a writer and but he was a him in bursting went into start digging and digging been because they also had somebody calling them telling them stuff deep through and then the they started good developing a storyline that you know it's and have pass Apple crap nobody paid any attention to this and I think couple things broken in the other papers got competitive and the next thing you know hell breaks loose and then

52:31 Within months and months, Nixon's crawling around babbling. He has to quit the job. So of course a lot of that was believed to be set up too. In the book Family of Secrets by way I recommend everybody read that book it is quite interesting So what was cool about Susan Rice as she's going around telling everybody, well actually let me just here. Here is her statement to NBC and then I have a little interesting clip where Brian Williams you know the guy who used to do breast reduction and breast enhancement reports for Channel 4 New York is now the anchor and the pillar of news.

CHAPTER 21 / 55 Discussion

Susan Rice's Withdrawal and Immigration Reform

Susan Rice explains her decision to withdraw from consideration for Secretary of State, citing a desire to avoid a politicized confirmation process that would distract from President Obama's agenda. She mentions priorities such as immigration reform and deficit reduction. The hosts question if she was "set up" by the administration to act as a buffer for the Benghazi fallout.

susan rice· secretary of state· immigration reform· united nations

53:12 decision that it was the best thing for our country, for the American people. That I not continue to be considered by the president for nomination as Secretary of State because i didn't want to see a confirmation process that was very prolonged, very politicized, very distracting and very disruptive because there are so many things we need to get done as a country. And the first several months of the second term president's agenda is really the opportunity to get the crucial things done. We're talking about comprehensive immigration reform

53:52 balanced deficit reduction, job creation. That's what matters and to the extent that my nomination could have delayed or distracted or deflected or made even some of these priorities impossible to achieve I didn't want that and i'd much prefer to continue doing what I'm doing which is a job i love at the United Nations. Yeah, which of course gives you inside access to everything that's happening so you can make your investments in energy companies and pipelines accordingly So you can go become incredibly wealthy wealthier than you already are but here is the real question. Were you set up? were you evicted? Oh crap somehow I keep hitting the Q button sorry hold on. I'll do it again. Were you setup? were you a victim of circumstance?

54:35 Yeah, Hillary sent me a bad data bad information. Are you blameless in all this? But I don't think anybody is ever wholly blameless but I didn't do anything wrong and didn't mislead I Didn't misrepresent. I did the best with the information the United States government had at that time Wow, now I'd love that. Well, I love the question where you set up she didn't answer it of course because yeah We know she was I don't know where she set up. Hey, should we uh... No, we have some executive producers to thank for today's show Let me say this first In the morning John Well in the morning to you Adam Curry and in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground subs on the water feet in the air and all the dames and knights out there who support the show on a week-to-week basis

CHAPTER 22 / 55 Discussion

No Agenda Art, Buzzkill Jr., and Missing Posters

The hosts thank their production team and discuss the need for new artwork for the show, noting a decline in submissions. They mention a story about missing posters in New York City and criticize Mayor Bloomberg's administration for a lack of humor regarding public art and activism.

no agenda· podcast art· buzzkill jr· bloomberg· new york city

55:25 I want to say hi to all of them. Yes, and i wanted to say in the morning to our crack team who are keeping us on the air no matter where in the world we come from an exile Of course that would be Buzzkill jr Void Zero Sir Gitmo Slave And Mr Oil and in the morning too All of the human resources in the chat room who are going nuts today The chat room is just on fire with opinions A lot of that is very helpful to us Some of it is just very irritating And also thank you to Sir Nussbaum for the artwork on No Agenda episode 469. I have to say we feel that were a little bit in trouble on the artwork of the past

56:07 There was a two or three episodes we have literally received like one one entry one entry for our yes So we have to go do it luckily. We have such a great battle backlog in evergreens Yeah, and we encourage people to post those but uh? we need We need current stuff. We need stuff to be updated, so we need artists. Yeah, we probably need to get some new artists because I think these guys are getting tired. Let's get rid of these guys! They're no good! No they get tired...we've seen this happen. We've had wave after wave of artists that get a little competitive and then they go back and forth and back and forth and the next thing you know they get pooped. And it's you know they're doing it as a service

56:50 And they get pooped and they say, you know I'm sick of this. They stop doing them or they get a job some of them. Yeah that's true. They don't have time to give us free art. Or some of them get arrested I and

57:37 The only way they could get to these numbers that it had to be worth a certain value, these posters that were in the box apparently cost 18 bucks a pop which seems unlikely. And then the whole thing is Bloomberg's fascist New York City essentially just has no sense of humor. No...no well it's good work i'd love to get that one of those posters have the world but we haven't heard from some a little concerned about these are taking still missing this letter may not know how much time they bail and only made their own video yet so no if you know with his current status is email them use a computer i have no idea uh... for hopey uh... hopi contacts me

CHAPTER 23 / 55 Discussion

Executive Producer Donations and Calgary Stampede

Sir Richard Bagwell and DJ Anonymous are thanked for their donations. The conversation briefly turns to the Calgary Stampede in Canada, with Adam Curry reminiscing about "barrel racing" and the atmosphere of the event. They discuss "job karma" and "home safety karma" for the donors.

calgary stampede· donations· karma· barrel racing

58:17 So let's thank Sir Richard Bagwell from Palm Coast, Florida who came in with a nice donation of one two three four dot five six. Wow! Thanks for the best podcast... Sorry thanks for the best... The lone wolf in me just came out didn't mean to do that. Thanks for the best podcasts, be nervous and keep up the great work guys I'd like to ask you some job karma last time I asked for it I lost my job second time we've had karma kick back if it happens again then I know karma hates trying to get a barony but i had the moves so does the barony follow you or you just get awarded a plot of land like this yes exactly what is that they're not going around we can't we give you people give your plots it with coordinates and that's yours in if you know if he could keep him moving away at the end of the day taking over and by other forces right as in the foothills of south carolina now i'm stuck

59:14 Laura douche or a douche and I'm daddy. I can use that and I'm headed even further south next year I'll send new address along for the ring Thanks again, all right well sir Richard Bagwell you betcha here is your karma You've got karma Coming at my work in South Carolina sir DJ anonymous in Calgary home of the stampede 500 which I have been to. I've been to the Calgary. Yeah, you have I haven't I was one of the go-ahead says great I had the belt buckle and The my favorite thing about the Calgary Stampede is the barrel run? I think it's called You have the cute girls on a little ponies and they race around these these big barrels really really fast But the whole thing is just sexy bitch called barrel racing. Yeah, that's it barrel racing

1:00:02 But these girls, you know they're cute. They just really smoking hot these tight outfits and then you know they got the little ponies are all energetic and stuff And the girls are just hot smoking hot this gets great that Calgary Stampede is awesome You done now? There's some cash to help out the picture of Adam. I can just see these you watching these girls driving those horses Yeah, Adam budding by how did they do that? Adam huddling by the dumpster was it motivated this donation Please give Adam and Mickey some home safety karma No get homes So did you see the person who took that picture and posted on the internet with you with a cigarette?

1:00:39 No, I haven't seen that one. With me with a cigarette? I was smoking... You put a cigarette in your hands and there's a bunch of smoke coming out of you. No, I didn't see that! Well, I was not smoking Obviously we saw the original and it's get home safely karma not get home safety karma What kind of douche are you man? Would give me the proper Karma will you damn its own safety karma Yeah, well this is not looking good by the way I mean You know so people want to know what's going on just have let me explain it very briefly That in order to get Miss Mickey back into the country while we wait for her green card because of course legally she's allowed to have a green card but this these days that is a four-month process with that's after you've been approved by the way so first there's three months where you have to send in all this documentation and you make it potential

CHAPTER 24 / 55 Discussion

Micky Curry's Immigration Issues and O-1 Visa Process

Adam Curry details the bureaucratic hurdles involved in getting his wife, Micky, back into the United States. Despite being eligible for a green card, she must apply for an O-1 visa due to travel restrictions. Curry lists the various fees paid to lawyers, the Department of Homeland Security, and labor unions like SAG and the AMPTP to expedite the process.

immigration· o-1 visa· department of homeland security· sag· amsterdam

1:00:02 But these girls, you know they're cute. They just really smoking hot these tight outfits and then you know they got the little ponies are all energetic and stuff And the girls are just hot smoking hot this gets great that Calgary Stampede is awesome You done now? There's some cash to help out the picture of Adam. I can just see these you watching these girls driving those horses Yeah, Adam budding by how did they do that? Adam huddling by the dumpster was it motivated this donation Please give Adam and Mickey some home safety karma No get homes So did you see the person who took that picture and posted on the internet with you with a cigarette?

1:00:39 No, I haven't seen that one. With me with a cigarette? I was smoking... You put a cigarette in your hands and there's a bunch of smoke coming out of you. No, I didn't see that! Well, I was not smoking Obviously we saw the original and it's get home safely karma not get home safety karma What kind of douche are you man? Would give me the proper Karma will you damn its own safety karma Yeah, well this is not looking good by the way I mean You know so people want to know what's going on just have let me explain it very briefly That in order to get Miss Mickey back into the country while we wait for her green card because of course legally she's allowed to have a green card but this these days that is a four-month process with that's after you've been approved by the way so first there's three months where you have to send in all this documentation and you make it potential

1:01:30 and then you get the petition, the petition says okay we'll allow you to request a green card. Then you go into the green card phase which we had just started. Ms. Mickey of course had to travel for her artwork for an art show But they wouldn't allow her to come back in on a tourist visa. So we have to request an o1 visa We can do the o1 visa and were 99 point nine percent sure that it'll all be okay, but you have to send in all these I'm not kidding You have to sit first so first you had to pay the lawyer now believe me The lawyers 2300 bucks because their lawyers are shyster

1:02:07 This is what he does. And then you've got to send another check for $1,550 for Department of Homeland Security. I kid you not! $1550 to the Department of Homeland Security for the expedited process But you can't start the expedited process until you have a letter of no dispute from AMT, the American Motion Picture Television Production Association who we also have to send $250 check too. What do they got to do with it? They have to say that they had no objection to her coming into the country into work for in the industry

1:02:48 And then, because Mickey's an actor in this case. And then we have SAG who also won a $250 administrative fee check and they also have to send a notice of no objection so they haven't sent their letter back yet and we can't do anything until we get all the letters So we got the AMTP letter Once we get sag then we can put it in and then because we paid the fifteen hundred and fifteen dollars to Janet Napolitano Then they have to respond within 15 business days Business days, which is three weeks. Also when they're closed during the Christmas vacation So we're gonna be here until summer! There you go so people wanted to know what was going on there it is

1:03:42 It's cute, it's great being in Amsterdam but it is not the same as being home with our own stuff around us and not being looked at by everywhere we go. And being a very small space... there you go! Anyway thank you so much for the karma served DJ Anonymous The home safety karma is highly appreciated Did you hit the Karma button? I did, yeah we took the Karma We're on to Mike Mike Keeler in Lost Wages, Nevada. Nuts! $369.69 I think this should qualify me for a knighthood. Apparently so you're gonna get it later. Yep and he wants a little karma for the economy that'll really help You've got karma And for those of you in the chat room who don't understand it believe me no matter what you do you cannot keep coming into the United States as a tourist at a certain point they say you're not a tourist and she's not

CHAPTER 25 / 55 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony and Listener Feedback

The hosts acknowledge Anthony Leone for achieving knighthood through his donations. They discuss the upcoming "apocalypse" on December 21, 2012, based on the Mayan calendar. They also address a listener who found the podcast depressing, with the hosts arguing that the listener is "missing the joke" of their media analysis.

knighthood· apocalypse· mayan calendar· donations

1:04:46 But then if you're going through a green card process, you shouldn't leave the country because you don't want to be a tourist. I mean it's F'd! Ever since 9-11 the processes...I'm embarrassed for my country. I'm embarrassed that the President of the United States just gave 139 thousand illegal immigrants a stay of deportation and my wife can't come into the country? The whole thing is F'd! Fake crybaby mofo! Sorry Done Anthony Leone and Catskill New York 221 13 who be an associate executive producers were a great sigh of relief He says that my no agenda knighthood has been achieved this past December 4th with my 30th 3333 No agenda boarding pass donation just in time for the apocalypse. I know that normally you guys chip in the penny However on the occasion of the apocalypse, I decided to add two to one thirteen To bring myself to a total of twelve twenty one twelve

1:05:44 Night of the Apocalypse. Nice! Nice one. I like the night of the apocalypse. Yeah, it's good. 122112 okay we'll put that in the next newsletter as an option is a title one can have for only a short while. If there is an apocalypse you get it for a week. You get laid out about 1 day. Hey baby I'm a night of the apocalypse oh great let's hurry up On the unlikely chance that the world does not end this coming week, I'll keep paying you guys. Keep talking and the descent into madness is just a little easier please. You know the thing is we discussed this with J.C., Buzzkill Jr. and me every so often. We try to make the ludicrous nature of the modern world in the news slightly humorous. Yeah well we tried

1:06:34 So you don't get depressed. We had somebody write me and said, your podcast is depressing I'm not listening anymore Yeah well then you're not getting the joke He needs Sherman called out as a douchebag And give us some karma Thank you so much You've got karma And finally, our buddy Sir Dean Bertram there in Ghana to twelve seventeen. And he just wants a birthday shout out for his Madonna who's 14. OK? Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, he says. Happy new year! Happy new year. That'll be it for our show four seven zero. That's right. I want to remind people who go to sorry now

1:07:27 No, no I'm just saying that's right. That's right. I'm saying yeah like kind of like in a church. Yeah brother! Yeah that's right. Remind people to go to noagendershow.com and also devorak.org slash na which is the primary donation site and also Channel.org.com slash NA if you can't get there for some reason although we haven't had too many reports of that of late and I'd like to remind everyone that these credits are absolutely real these executive producer and associate executive producer credits You can actually use them at SAG now, I'm not saying that they're gonna get you a letter any sooner That you need to know to get into the country But no They are actual credits

CHAPTER 26 / 55 Discussion

No Agenda Formula and Media Assassination

The hosts wrap up the first half of the show by reminding listeners how to donate and support the program. They emphasize that their "Executive Producer" credits are real and can be used as legitimate credentials. They reiterate their mission of "media assassination" and analyzing the news through their unique lens.

media assassination· donations· podcasting· formula

1:06:34 So you don't get depressed. We had somebody write me and said, your podcast is depressing I'm not listening anymore Yeah well then you're not getting the joke He needs Sherman called out as a douchebag And give us some karma Thank you so much You've got karma And finally, our buddy Sir Dean Bertram there in Ghana to twelve seventeen. And he just wants a birthday shout out for his Madonna who's 14. OK? Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, he says. Happy new year! Happy new year. That'll be it for our show four seven zero. That's right. I want to remind people who go to sorry now

1:07:27 No, no I'm just saying that's right. That's right. I'm saying yeah like kind of like in a church. Yeah brother! Yeah that's right. Remind people to go to noagendershow.com and also devorak.org slash na which is the primary donation site and also Channel.org.com slash NA if you can't get there for some reason although we haven't had too many reports of that of late and I'd like to remind everyone that these credits are absolutely real these executive producer and associate executive producer credits You can actually use them at SAG now, I'm not saying that they're gonna get you a letter any sooner That you need to know to get into the country But no They are actual credits

1:08:04 And unlike the phonies in Hollywood, we're the ones that will actually vouch for you. And of course you can always go out and propagate our formula! Our formula is this... We go out, we hit people in the mouth. You may return to your business citizen. Alrighty. What was that little thing at the end? That was Batman now and we have a yes uh... this is the citizens don't be alarmed for your own official business it's where an official business to assassinate the media citizen but here's one for you his one for you guest of all for some reason my hands are like a little weird today and i'm keeping the q button in front of us as a new mayor turned your hearts accord yeah

CHAPTER 27 / 55 Discussion

Andrea Mitchell on Susan Rice and Racial Politics

NBC correspondent Andrea Mitchell appears on *The Rachel Maddow Show* to discuss Susan Rice's withdrawal. Mitchell frames the situation as a loss for "women of color" and suggests that Republicans forced her out. The hosts criticize Mitchell for using "racial cards" and argue that Rice was actually left to "twist in the wind" by the Obama administration.

andrea mitchell· susan rice· rachel maddow· racism· sexism

1:09:05 Oh man, let me just blow out some racial crap here for a second. So we know that Susan Rice withdrew and she was on the Rachel Maddow show Andrea Mitchell was on the Rachel Maddow. Now Andrea Mitchell is like a senior correspondent or something? She's like the muckety-muck of Washington for NBC or MSNBC Yeah yeah no NBC She's married to some douche, right? Greenspan! Oh of course. That's why she always gets to say whatever she wants so here is report number one where she has to pull all racial cards. I bring in NBC's chief foreign affairs correspondent Andrea Mitchell and Andrea what are you hearing about Susan Rice? She's married to Greenspan that old dude?!

1:09:59 We talk about that you always are surprised every time we discuss this and we've done it like at least four times. Greenspan's like a hundred years old isn't he? I mean she's yeah, and he talks like this She's beat up but she knows she's hot for him That's a real catch for him. For drawing her name Well, I think that this had become sort of an impossible challenge for her to be confirmed. That she realized that the White House realized it as well. I think they know that they are on good political solid ground is you were just pointing out this is not going to help Republicans at all. The fact that a woman and a woman of color has been forced out of a confirmation process even before she was nominated. This is so horrible! The thing she's saying... A woman? A woman of color?!

1:10:44 It's like yeah, it's because everyone else in the world hates black women. This is clear what it is. Hold on a second. Yeah and by the way before she was nominated and then Rice comes out goes on as if she has already been nominated Obama himself says he hasn't made any decisions or considerations. I can say the same thing about my wife, you know Mimi? Who's a woman! She has been taken out of the running for Secretary of State That is right it's horrible that is just sexism and she's a woman of color this is horrible. Actually she's part Indian so she is a woman of color Do you guys get subsidy

1:11:23 Yeah, we're working on it. It doesn't seem to be working out. So now... Piece of the casino action! Hello welcome to the Dvorak Casino! Rien ne va plus! Place your bets please! So here's Andrea Mitchell then she goes on The Rachel Maddow Show just to ratchet it up a little bit Very very well qualified so I think that having opposed a woman and a woman of color So she's very, she had a very high level. Women are angry! They're angry because now this is where it gets interesting John the president didn't

1:12:20 Back her up. So not only is he a fake crybaby mofo He's a liar because he said he was you remember what? He said, he said You will you want to take on right you want it pick on someone your own says cuz I'm gonna take care People seem to forgotten that angry because they feel that she was not treated with respect She was not given the support she needed and she was left to twist in the wind Twisted the wing angry with whom though angry with the White House and with the boss. with the president for not being willing to fight this out. What do you think happened there? I mean, so now it starts to come clear... Wait a second! Wasn't Rice the one who said she's taking herself out of the race?! Yeah oh yeah Oh yeah Well then how does any of this apply if she took herself out of the race were they implying that she was forced out? No i think literally what are they saying? I don't get it

CHAPTER 28 / 55 Discussion

John Kerry's Qualifications and the War on White Dudes

The hosts discuss John Kerry as the likely successor for Secretary of State, with Dvorak mockingly calling him "superbly qualified." They argue that the media is using the Susan Rice situation to discredit Republicans as "old racist white dudes." They claim there is a broader "war on white dudes" occurring in modern political discourse.

john kerry· susan rice· andrea mitchell· racism· media bias

1:13:17 Explain. Well, here's some more. John Kerry is superbly qualified because he's an incredible douchebag. He's the son of a diplomat, he married into the richest family in the world, he has a head as big as a watermelon... I think he's extremely qualified to be a douche bag! And clearly wanted this job and will get this job

1:13:56 Are they blaming him now? No, no. He clearly wanted the job and now he's getting the job They had two and two dummies gonna get this job I think something else is going to remember she said that top something else She's got inside information John She's got information on it They needed Susan Rice in that position for some reason that they're not telling us Now I'm guessing because she's really adamant about this What difference does it make? Well, you know there's... What difference does it make that they would get this worked up. Let's go back to the original assessment from the Curry-DeVoreye Consulting Group was that Hillary Clinton set Susan Rice up for this fall now

1:14:44 Clearly she needed the buffer zone for the whole Benghazi thing, which is why she now is pooping and hitting her head and can't testify. Which it's going to get all wrapped up and then there will be Christmas and New Years and we've forgotten and then we'll have another crazy gunman and no one will care anymore So she's going to get out of that. I think this was always Kerrys to have from day one and the president didn't want Susan Rice, so he just... Telling you the guy is a crybaby lying mofo! He went up there and said pick on someone your own side. He didn't mean that.

1:15:25 And Andrea Mitchell, she just in order to be on the Rachel Maddow show she has to say sexism racism. She just has to do that it's part of the NBC rule book. Well this is very suspicious I mean who cares? Why would Andrea Mitchell or anybody else care that Susan Rice has got, gee in a political situation where one person gets the job that the other person wanted or the other person quits a job they could have had but they got aced out for some reason. Some political reason otherwise why does anybody thats in the news media why are they so invested

1:16:05 that she would come out and talk like this unless something else was going on that they're not telling us. Well I think there's also still a general news media move to discredit every single Republican in the universe, i think that's still in there and call them out as old racist white dudes There is still the war on white dudes. Yeah, but that's been going on forever. It's really ratcheted up you know I mean the war on old white dudes is pretty big now. Yeah it's popular Then we got a war on white fat dudes. This was my favorite, so of course Hillary will have a miraculous recovery within the next four years after she'll look great and get her facelift done. She's going to be so prepared for 2016 but of course you've already gotta start getting rid of the white dude who she'll be running against which more than likely would be Chris Christie

CHAPTER 29 / 55 Discussion

Chris Christie's Health and 2016 Presidential Run

The media has begun focusing on New Jersey Governor Chris Christie's weight as a potential issue for a 2016 presidential campaign. Reporters suggest that his medical records will become as scrutinized as tax returns. The hosts discuss how "health-focused" the current era has become and how obesity is being used as a political weapon.

chris christie· obesity· 2016 election· medical records· new york times

1:17:08 So how are we going to do that? Well, obviously he's unhealthy. Look if he runs for president Jonathan, the version of where are his tax returns is going to be. Let's see your medical records that's going to be the concept and let's see these checkups all the time Dr. Lawrence K Altman, long-time New York Times reporter who used to do this He was a doctor who is a piranha when it comes to stuff And this would return in a hurry It would be relentless like Christie You can see guys like him and also the rest of the press corps saying it right? Show us the records What was your last doctor visit you know uh... blood pressure et cetera et cetera and i do think um... okay you got it but the day i don't have anything to beat that up i don't think he was all bad news now i know how much believe me take my word for it alright i'll take a break there's still forty two seconds on it

1:18:03 Yeah, we'll keep playing. I think the idea has been established. But it's just kind of funny to keep hearing him say that. We have calorie counts on menus where McDonalds is losing value and Greek yogurt is taking off. We're sort of in this more health-focused era. People are more cognizant obesity issues at this point they've been in a long, long time. I think that could be a factor as well but you're absolutely right Chuck this will be the obsession in terms of... It'll be his tax returns essentially. In terms of being compliant and being open And that answer won't That's not an answer it would satisfy The truth is matter is its not ridiculous ultimately the health and wellbeing of the president who you pick for vice-president You know your electing someone who is most powerful person in the world Listen you fat bastard

1:18:51 You can't be president, fat boy. That can't happen! You're gonna die!" Oh man I'm telling you it's so weird to be here where everyone is still zombified...you have no idea. In America we have...well that's not entirely true of course but it's hard to explain but people really They're all in what you're saying. They are kind of all-in but they're hiding from it because they know that there's something going on, I can feel that but they just don't want to know this like ahhh... You put your fingers in here like and then and then I didn't hear I didn't hear I didn't hear it. It's not happening

CHAPTER 30 / 55 Discussion

NATO Patriot Missiles in Turkey and Dutch Smart Defense

NATO has decided to deploy two Patriot missile batteries to the Turkish-Syrian border, with the Netherlands providing the equipment and 400 troops. NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen praised the Dutch for their "smart defense" contributions despite economic austerity. The hosts suggest the missiles are ineffective and part of a larger military scam.

nato· turkey· syria· patriot missiles· netherlands

1:19:41 And it's very surreal. It really is, because in America you can still start up a conversation with someone and go like, hey these guys are crazy they're ripping us off! You know? And the people will be like yeah man, yeah they're ripping us off but here it's like... let's have another beer. Have some blue wine. We're being scammed! Yeah and a good American would say hell yeah bastards scamming us but here its just like uh... i don't want to know. They're hopeless, that's why they keep getting into these stupid wars they get convinced that they should be in. What war? We're the empire come on! So um... NATO has decided to send two

1:20:31 Patriot missile batteries to Turkey, to defend against obviously the evil Syrian Scud missiles. And who falls this responsibility amongst NATO? The Dutch! It is actually a Dutch patriot battery, two batteries which looks like two trucks essentially with some tubes on it and they're sending that with 400 troops I might add to Syria. And so our Prime Minister here, Rutte went to be praised by the Secretary General of NATO and just have a little clip here as he is praising the Dutch

1:21:17 This shows the value and importance the Netherlands places on its membership in NATO. And we are very grateful for all your contributions, we know they are made despite difficult economic times uh... in fact at the netherlands is leading and away on smart defense smart defense this is a new one to me and you know that's not the defense as much as there's no scam patriot missiles it don't work well now apparently apparently martin dot can't have money apparently the dutch

1:21:59 have been able to scam their own population into thinking that they're doing all of this stuff for NATO, for nothing. Just on a shoestring budget. This enables you to use your defense budget more efficiently Of the 22 multinational projects which we approved at the Chicago summit this year You participate in no less than 17 and that is remarkable and we're very grateful for that. Very good Dutch boy, very good! 17 of the 22 no less on your shoestring budget under austerity where the people can no longer deduct their housing interest expenses where they have to work longer shut up slave retire when you're 70 just shutup shutup but very good you are working well for NATO with your little patriot missiles very very good

CHAPTER 31 / 55 Discussion

Syrian Scud Missiles and Russian Response

NATO officials express concern over Syria's use of unguided Scud missiles, calling them "indiscriminate weapons." Meanwhile, Iran and Russia warn that deploying Patriot missiles in Turkey could trigger a larger conflict. A report from Russia Today highlights Tehran's warning that this move could lead to a "world war."

scud missiles· syria· nato· russia today· world war iii

1:22:54 Good did they change the retirement age to 70? No, it's not 70 but at 67. Yes like everywhere else They opted a couple years that moved everybody up and then he talked about the scudge which I thought was kind of interesting So scudge is the Scuds Scuds Scuds better this good this good in other words no missiles hit neighboring territory We can't confirm details of the missiles, but some of the information indicates they were Scott-type missiles. The use of such indiscriminate weapons shows utter disregard for the lives of the Syrian people

1:23:49 I find this very interesting. So what he's saying is because they are scud missiles, which are unguided, which are not like the sophisticated stuff that we got, that NATO has... It's like the V2 rocket that the Germans used in World War II. Yeah it's like you show no regard for human life because you're not taking out people specifically just letting these things fly! You're a horrible horrible man as opposed to us who hit a wedding and get the dude and couple of other people I mean it's just amazing how the ease with which the elites talk about death and destruction, and cry over children. My clip is from Russia Today which changes the angle just a little bit on the Patriot missiles in Turkey. It's a little straightforward

1:24:39 Tehran has warned NATO of triggering a world war by deploying Patriot missiles on Turkey's volatile border with Syria. It called on the military alliance to reverse its decision to station the defense system there. NATO promised earlier this month provide manned missile batteries in order to shield turkey from possible cross-border aggression Right, just that simple World War! Yeah, oh yeah it is coming it's good and it is necessary because we need to clean up some people, we need a get the war machine going. It just unfortunate that its gonna be here. So I had an interesting side topic that hasn't been covered by the media at all. Okay! I didn't even know about it. Okay! In fact I was very interested in this guy Gordon Smith who's ahead of the NAB National Association Broadcasters brought it upon on The C-SPAN show Yeah

CHAPTER 32 / 55 Discussion

FCC Incentive Auctions and Broadcast TV Spectrum

Gordon Smith, head of the National Association of Broadcasters (NAB), expresses concern over FCC plans to hold "incentive auctions" in 2014. The government aims to buy back spectrum from television broadcasters to sell to mobile carriers for 4G services. The hosts argue this will disenfranchise millions of Americans who rely on terrestrial broadcasting and increase government control over communications.

fcc· nab· broadcast television· spectrum auction· digital transition

1:25:36 and I didn't even know this is going on play the clip FCC trying to kill broadcast TV. Oh boy, wait a minute. This is something new. The FCC has said that it wants to move rapidly towards holding incentive auctions in 2014. While your group has expressed concerns that if the Commission rushes the process, that it might not be done right can you elaborate a little bit on worries there? Well you know the way they're constructing this is they're going to say to broadcasters how many at this price would volunteer go out of business and they'll see who raises their hands and then they will say to the buying community how many will buy at that price

1:26:17 And no one will know who is doing what but them in the middle. And then when they find out, well we don't need that spectrum okay how about this lower price? How many will sell for this and how many will buy for that? They'll try to come up with a patchwork model that clears a band for them The other side of this which is concerning to us, is of course a lot of powers will have to be moved as part of the repackaging of television stations. And that if this is not done correctly you know the DTV transition went from analog to digital

1:26:57 That'll look like Sunday school class compared to the complexity of this and millions will be disenfranchised from television. Wait a minute, wait a minute, let me understand... So why are the broadcast television stations going away? I didn't quite understand the auction thing in the beginning Yeah, yeah that's right. You didn't in fact who knew anything of this was going on and let's take a look at the couple things that have happened first of all we went from analog to digital which changed structure and the kind of spectrum needs every broadcaster many stations like channel 7 locally they get their old chunk back in terms of bandwidth so they have three channels they have there HD channel then two other secondary channels

1:27:48 They're trying to arrest control, or the government actually would like to get terrestrial broadcasting. This is my theory at this point because of this auction, this crazy auction they're going try and grab back some of the spectrum because a lot people aren't using it I mean we have a couple stations that they use you know got their three channels The big networks and they use one of them two are the same thing that they don't need redundant Or one of them is just playing Weather 24-7. So they're going to see if they can get that spectrum back, they wouldn't have said that they were going to try this stunt before they went from analog to digital but thats what their trying to do

CHAPTER 33 / 55 Discussion

NSA Surveillance at AT&T Second Street Building

A long-running lawsuit in San Francisco concerns an AT&T building on Second Street where the NSA reportedly caches internet traffic. The hosts suggest the government wants to move all communication to IP-based systems to ensure total control. Adam Curry discusses his interest in ham radio as a decentralized alternative to state-controlled networks.

nsa· at&t· san francisco· surveillance· ham radio

1:28:26 trigger the thought in me because right now in the San Francisco Bay Area there is a lawsuit going on that's been in the process for five years by a bunch of individuals and you can look this up it's a lawsuit over that second and whatever street it is where they AT&T building is it right at the NSA has yeah yeah second Street. There's a big building, then the NSA apparently has half of it all the internet traffic is being cached and I don't know what they're doing with it all but putting somewhere So they're getting sued over this. Essentially, it's obvious that the government would love to get rid of anything that they don't have instant control of in other words the internet switch where they can just shut down all communications right now you can't shut down all these radio stations and broadcasters I mean... Oh okay i see what you're saying so the idea is

1:29:17 is to have everything run through IP, everything run through Second Street essentially so that there's total control over every type of communication from any point A to shittisonary point B. Right, so let's encourage more cable TV and these things that we can do as a way to control. It is hard to control broadcasting in fact the old rule was in South America when you were going start a revolution the first thing you would take over the radio station right and then announce that you are now the new leaders Wait a minute! So this is exactly why we need to protect our hams This is why the agenda hams is gonna be extremely... We can do slow scan television

1:29:57 we can actually do this stuff. Don't be knocking at the door but you can do it, yes? Hello! Can I tell you something... So I only had my rig for like three days or four days before i had to leave to come in and swoop in and be with my bride. I really miss my HF rig. I've really missed doing the long distance. I would just gotten into it. Like three days of communicating on the digital stuff with Germany and with Cuba and with Canada. It was really amazing what you can do with this ham radio stuff, and now I don't have it anymore."

CHAPTER 34 / 55 Discussion

Ham Radio, BBS History, and Spectrum Reallocation

The hosts reminisce about the era of Bulletin Board Systems (BBS) and the technical challenges of running them on single phone lines. They return to the FCC's plan to reallocate "prime spectrum" from TV to mobile data, noting that the Netherlands already has a highly centralized cable-based television infrastructure.

ham radio· bbs· fcc· spectrum· telecommunications

1:30:39 And you, and I think you're still licensed since your general for many of the bands that are available in Holland. Yeah, um, I'm allowed...I did bring my two meter set but yeah you can barely hit any repeaters from where i am right now this is not the same infrastructure but I can operate here under my license. It's just I don't have a rig, you know... Maybe some local ham will help you out and sit you down. Let me finish this anyway then let me try to summarize what it was that was confusing. Apparently in 2014 the FCC has decided that we'd like to get some of the spectrum back

1:31:21 and we have buyers over here you know AT&T or wherever they are that would like to have some of this spectrum for the spectrum that they're broadcasting. For like 4G stuff? Yeah, whatever it is they're going to use it for maybe nothing right but whatever the case is they can do this prime spectrum because it has long distances, the reason that the TV broadcasting was put where it was because at the time before we could do all this fancy stuff and then you had all these repeaters and microwaves of different sorts. This is the most effective band you can have for shooting a long way from one antenna so now they decided here's what were going to

1:32:01 Any broadcaster out there that owns one of these even though you're still licensed and we could probably just cheat you and take your license away But this that would show up as a bad thing We're gonna ask if you want to sell out. You want to just sell give up Give up, just give up ABC in San Francisco Bay Area? You wanted to just give up will take those three stations from ya how much money do you want what is it worth What is it worth right now for you to walk right and that's the auction And they said, well it's probably worth... That the auction is to go away? Okay. It's worth five billion bucks you can have it and so they take that bid and they go into their secret bidders They don't want say who it is which is kind of weird They say okay these guys will give up this whole thing for five billion Can we afford it

1:32:47 Yeah, we'll pay five. Okay or they would say no We can't but we can pay for they go back to the ABC guys and say four million billion and you're out of here You got in the Bay Area And you just given up to these guys? You can run a cable Or you can I mean there's obviously you still goes through the cable system or and the whole thing is this screw the public There are almost 20 million people in the United States that rely on terrestrial broadcasting They don't have cable They don't have satellite, they don't have the dish network. Those things are expensive! This whole thing is bad. It's funny if you look here in the Netherlands there is... well they do have digitena so they have some kind of digital set-top box you can get but pretty much everyone has cable and it's been that way for as long as I can remember. The action antennas yeah it's a great way to control everybody

1:33:41 Wow, yeah. No this was a broadcasting thing was a bad idea You know you know I think we need to set up a ham radio bulletin board system a BBS when you When you connect and over the ham radio And you can get like now you can post the message and then idea and then you disconnect that someone else can connect remember those with The old BBS as I ran one of those tell me who didn't run a BBS back in your day You know the funny thing was I had all the BBS software reviewed and all that I could have. It's just, I never thought like the idea of having those phone lines coming in because to do it right you needed dozens of phone lines No no! You just had one phone line Oh well thats really... So yeah you had one phone line and it would kick the guy off after ten minutes And he wanted lots of phone lines Yeah but I was a kid

CHAPTER 35 / 55 Discussion

Terrorist Use of Facebook and Google

A State Department briefing addresses whether designated terrorist organizations are allowed to hold accounts on U.S. platforms like Facebook and Google. The official response suggests that it is sometimes "advantageous" to keep these accounts open for surveillance purposes. The hosts conclude that the government encourages terrorists to stay on mainstream platforms to make spying easier.

facebook· google· state department· terrorism· surveillance

1:34:30 I didn't have lots of phone lines. It makes sense if you would do that. Can you turn your speaker down just a tad, John? I'm having trouble filtering out the slapback. If I can get my computer to come back up... There it is! So here's a question for ya. Oh wow it's crazy, it's like slapping back really loud. I've got it down to nothing and I can barely hear you now. Well that's too bad. How was that? That was good, I guess. So if you run a company an American company and a terrorist wants to utilize your services. You can't do that, right? What?! Well let's say we have a consulting group... We got an offer from some terrorists at Dvorak Consulting! I wish!

1:35:24 So let's say you have an online service for example. Now can a terrorist use your online service if you're in American company? Is that legal or should that be illegal, how does that work? It depends on the terms of service I think it should be clearly written in the terms of service that no terrorists can use this service When any organization is designated as foreign terrorist outfit Or when any individual is designated as foreign terrorist Can he or she, or that particular organization can open an account with Facebook and Google because they are US companies? So this is the State Department press briefing. And the question is exactly that! If you've got a terrorist organization Are they allowed to open up an account with Facebook or Google even though their terrorists? Well can I answer the question before you play the real answers? Of course of course

1:36:16 Well from what I understand yes, because they have the same rights and privileges of anybody else And I think they do have Facebook pages. That's another reason FDU any US organization citizens a ban for having an introduction with them well when activity is sanctioned it does give the u.s government broad latitude to talk to our companies about the way these sanctions are going to be implemented so each case is different and we evaluate each case individually uh... there are as you can imagine circumstances where uh... it might be advantageous for accounts too stay open i'm not gonna go any further than that so the answer is

1:37:01 Well, we have continuous contact with the government and Facebook. And they continuously tell us when they have terrorists signing up and then we'll just change the rules for them only because we want to spy on their accounts! Oh by the way... We might do that for anybody! For anybody! Yeah this is exactly what the answer is yeah I don't want these guys going into the dark net Don't go away stay on Facebook please Exactly. They're literally saying well, you know You can't do that but you know is the Facebook of what people? Do you have to understand that you are being spied on all the time? Yeah, yeah So I made a big mistake Well, maybe it's not a mistake

CHAPTER 36 / 55 Discussion

Google Plus, Mike Elgan, and Social Media Hangouts

Adam Curry expresses confusion over the value of Google Plus, despite being in thousands of "circles." He mentions that tech journalist Mike Elgan is a proponent of the platform. The hosts discuss the "Hangout" feature and the "No Agenda" community circle, though Curry finds the notification system overwhelming and a "time sink."

google plus· mike elgan· social media· hangouts· networking

1:37:46 So Mike Elgin, who was so nice and he's a producer of the show and he posted such nice things about us. I go on this Google Plus thing... Have you ever been on this Google Plus thing? Yeah yeah! I've got a Google Plus account. Okay here is what you might not want to do So I go on the Google Plus thing and then I see, you know... And like how does this thing work? And we've got circles and squares and whatever. Then I see that I'm in 7000 circles! Are you in any circles?! Yeah, a couple of them. Well, I am in seven thousand circles and I say... Okay good for you. But I say oh wow I'm in seven thousand circles and then all sudden I start to get all these messages

1:38:29 This thing that's, you know and of course... You gotta turn that off. You could turn it off! Turn it off! It all went to my email I got like a million things and then... Huge problem But then everyone was like this is great and this is gonna be fantastic And I'm like I don't really see the value. What what is really great? Elgin actually is the most he's a maven on this thing and he's convinced And I think he somehow makes money. What? Oh, well now you've got my interest so how do we make money on the Google Plus thing He's got some... You know i have always wanted to take him aside or hang out with him and have him show me exactly what he is doing but he has some...I don't know what it is...he somehow makes money through his

1:39:12 Belkin Google+, I don't know what you're talking about. Then we have to figure this out because, you know, I get all these like oh you have 20 new notifications and then I get like you got plus one of what plus one? You got plus 1 on your comment! Plus 3 on your post! The whole thing is idiotic. It's a time sink it's like people are really happy that they're like Oh it's so great to have you here I'm like, but i don't understand. I don't get the benefit of it! I just...I don't see it Will somebody please send Adam a memo explaining the benefits of Google Plus? No! Adam at curry.com, he will read it It's plus Adam Curry Don't send it to plus adam curry you'll never find it That's the thing It's like where am I looking here and then everywhere I go is like on YouTube and then I see like Essentially Twitter on steroids Yeah is that it

1:40:10 You don't like Twitter, you won't like this. Well I like Twitter but it's just...I don't know The thing is that you post something and then you get these notifications It's just all of a sudden I lost an hour in the day of Google Plus I need my hour back! I mean I have not gotten any huge benefit other than hey, I think its great We have 700 people in the No Agenda community circle Yeah, yeah and they're all why I think you're a moderator. I am I'm a brown shirt Yeah, I am too I believe although I never You should come in there if they want to day what they're gonna want to do a that's not a meetup It's called a it was it called hangout everybody out online at the same time Hang out yeah, you have a hang-out and have the video hangout Hey man, hey man, you know what? You can do you can do what Oh

1:41:07 You can hang out. Let's go there and hang out and kick some people off you and I. Hang out, then say hi and just say what are you doing? I want you and i to go in there and kick people off of the hangout. Kick people! Hey man... Out! Some of the Nazis that are in Leo's room did do that. So of the three days that I've been spending an hour a day in the Google Hangouts circle There was only one thing that I got, that was of any value. One thing that was a value and it was an old story from 2007 but i did like it very much. It was the story from Bloomberg about The Robin Hood Foundation

CHAPTER 37 / 55 Discussion

Robin Hood Foundation and Hedge Fund Fees

A 2007 Bloomberg report raised questions about the Robin Hood Foundation, a high-profile charity. The report alleged that half of the foundation's money was invested in hedge funds run by its own board members, who collected standard industry fees of 2% of assets and 20% of profits. The hosts characterize this as a "scam" benefiting wealthy donors.

robin hood foundation· hedge funds· bloomberg· jamie dimon· charity

1:41:54 The Robin Hood Foundation of course is what I have identified as the scammers who put on this show or a number of shows a year and they have $140-150 million dollars which they invest half of it And it just doesn't seem like it's really benefiting the people that are supposed to benefit directly. So I get this story from 2007, from Bloomberg where there were questions in Congress about the Robin Hood Foundation and here it is The main concern from Congress, half the money in the Robin Hood Foundation is invested in hedge funds run by Robin Hood donors or board members who get paid the industry standard fee of 2% of assets and 20% of profits for managing donations. So I'm like wow! Of course it makes so much sense

1:42:46 Remember we're like brought to you by Chase and Jamie Dimon, and everyone's in there. We see all these tens of millions of dollars invested in all these different funds? Now I understand! They're taking your money, they invested in hedge funds. The same people who are taking your money and are on the board, woohoo! They are taking a 2% fee. Let me see $100 million dollars, um two percent is $2 million dollars and 20% of any profits. They're taking that right off the top. Hey these guys are great. Well they're smarter than we are

CHAPTER 38 / 55 Discussion

Hurricane Sandy Relief Bill and Congressional Pork

A $60 billion relief package for Hurricane Sandy is criticized for containing "pork" unrelated to the storm. Items include $23 million for tree plantings, $2 million for the Smithsonian roof, and $4 million for the FBI to replace vehicles. Most notably, the bill reportedly includes funding for military bases as far away as Guantanamo Bay.

hurricane sandy· congress· pork barrel· smithsonian· guantanamo bay

1:43:26 and then all of a sudden we get Diane Thoyer who has a report. It was an epic concert, a pantheon of rock legends... A pantheon of rock legends! ...gathering to raise money for those hardest hit by Hurricane Sandy That sounds pretty off-key by the way, it doesn't sound very good Two billion people around the globe watch the cavalry two billion people around the globe No, they didn't Diane Sawyer. You're high. Okay 30 million dollars raised in ticket sales But those suffering from Sandy were also promised a lot of help from the US government and that money is stalled in Congress So ABC's David Curley decided to find out why so this is really great So there's a 60 billion dollar package that has been put together but it turns out the whole thing is filled with pork

1:44:27 Hey, hey what a hey Just to show you that this is the we are the land of equal opportunity. We screwed over the Haitians We can screw over ourselves too. We were fair. This is fair We screw the Haitians now we get screw ourselves Oh, yeah Americans having trouble ask room which we already saw this with Katrina by the way But this isn't why is this a big shock to you? Well, this is little different Because this is not money that people, they only raised 30 million dollars so they say for the stupid concert. This is a 60 billion... Oh this missing is Clinton! This is 60 billion dollars with a B, 60 billion dollars in government funding that are supposed to go to help people rebuild

1:45:17 But instead, listen to what is really in the package. Six weeks after Sandy in Long Beach New York Janet Peters and her elderly mother are still dealing with this wondering who's helping? No one can tell you where that new money is slated for no one seems to have any answers With the hospital still down The water and sewer system not fixed The city manager worries his local economy will take. It's just crucial that we get these funds right away every day that goes by, that were not you know actively repairing this critical infrastructure is a scary and sad day for us which is why three governors... We're not going to allow any political forces in Washington DC to divide and conquer us wrote in the Washington Post that Congress can't leave before the holidays without approving help pointing out that aid was approved just two weeks after Katrina

1:46:08 In New Jersey tonight, with 72 thousand homes and businesses damaged or destroyed the governor wants five billion dollars to rebuild homes eight billion dollars to rebuild businesses but the Sandy package totaling sixty billion dollars is stuck in Washington Republicans accusing the president of loading up the bill with millions not related to this storm So here's a little overview 23 million dollars for tree plantings $2 million to repair the roof of the Smithsonian Institute in Washington, D.C., $4 million to repair sand berms and dunes at the Kennedy Space Center in Florida which I don't think was affected that badly, $41 million dollars to clean up

1:46:56 and repairs at eight military bases along the storm's path, including Guantanamo Bay. And the FBI wants $4 million to replace vehicles, laboratory and office equipment and furniture, including another 2.4 million to replace destroyed or damaged vehicles which include mobile x-ray machines. This thing is crazy! It's absolutely crazy how we are able to take, even for our own citizens. How we're able to take a disaster and steal money from the good people. Steal money! No wonder people... Portable x-rays? Those are those things that they drive around and they X-ray you? Yeah yeah yeah they x-ray your house And you're paying for it stupid citizens

CHAPTER 39 / 55 Discussion

Listener Donations, Brazilian Girlfriends, and Atlas Shrugged

The hosts read a series of donations from listeners in Holland, Montreal, and Germany. One donor, Ian Prentice, wins an iPad using "No Agenda karma." The hosts joke about Dvorak's inability to correctly pronounce the name "Ian" and discuss a listener's suggestion for Dvorak to record an audiobook of *Atlas Shrugged*.

donations· karma· atlas shrugged· amsterdam· montreal

1:47:47 Yes, it isn't don't be alarmed. We're here on official business to steal you to rob your blind That's what we're here to do I'm gonna show my school by donating to no agenda imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah Well at least we have some people that are donating to help this show continue Yeah And I want to thank them starting with yop Gielhoed. Geelhood? Huh? Geelhood, yellow hat! In Wise Church... Wissenkerke. Holland 1 2 3 2 1 for my smoking hot Brazilian didn't you this is last week no no no she oh then I must have read it earlier my spoken hot Brazilian baby who seems to always be coming to the Netherlands when Adam is here coincidence for Solar Marco who's always listens

1:48:44 or so Marco who always listens well watching porn and stimulate both parts of the brain simultaneously to Eric will be donating after the 21st December 2012 that's actually good policy if you don't want to give us all the rest your money cuz is world ends yeah at this drug plus newsflash a or shoe throwing karma I'd these sure I'm rent You've got karma. Thank you, Yob! Yeah by the way you can go over and see him he's in there right down the street. Yeah his smoking hot girlfriend from Brazil yeah go check it out Gerald GNA or I think GNA or GNETS.

1:49:40 GNA's the way it should be pronounced, was unable to highlight the fact that I've achieved knighthood status in March. So I cancelled the subscription and said 6666 but screwed up and missed adding the message! I need karma for my daughter Amber who is going through a rough period in her life." We'd be happy to give that later. And of course his donation comes out to... NinerNinerNinerNiner! You've got karma very important for amber some karma I on apprentice Ian insulting in Montreal Quebec, I'd say nine. I'd say Ian Prentice need not ion Ian not ion Ian 9999 again And here we go No agenda Karma works at my company

1:50:33 And my company Crip Christmas there was a draw for gifts when they were drawing the largest gift I thought to myself Time to use by no agenda karma, and I won an iPad yay So time to get some more karma and a parliament mumble to keep me warm while I visit family and friends in the frozen tundra that is Winnipeg. P.S. credit just uh... Ian, E-I-A-N from Montreal okay? No it says something else there if you mess up Ian get Adam to play an Atlas Shrug jingle well you messed it up twice John! You said ion twice so you do get the Atlas shrug jingle

1:51:17 You've got karma It's it's really weird. You know this why that we should investigate Why you continuously read Ian as I on there's a reason for that There's something going on in the brain. I never knew an eon I think is the reason I think we should call Sanjay jerk ate Amsterdam. Snakes! He's right there down the street from us, go see him 69-69 69 dude! Please double tap all ignorant and manipulative marketing douchebags might be redundant add a horizontal karma for the upcoming holidays. Alright Double tap it is You've got Karma Sir Chad Biederman

CHAPTER 40 / 55 Discussion

Reverse Discrimination and Unemployment Karma

A donor from Columbus, Ohio, discusses the meme of "reverse discrimination" resulting from modern legislation. Another donor from Orlando, Florida, requests "jobs karma" for a roommate struggling with unemployment. The hosts provide their customary "Shut Up Slave" and "Karma" soundbites in response.

reverse discrimination· unemployment· orlando· illinois· karma

1:52:16 In Round Lake, Illinois Ellen nuts. He's likes to say greeting from Ellen nuts Got a killer idea for some side income for no agenda an audiobook of John sarcastically reading and Atlas shrugged can you imagine how long that would take it's like sixteen hours and i've never could never get paid enough i would never read the book but i'd pay twenty or thirty dollars to hear john reed damn thing uh... died at this doesn't sound like a great idea to me don't think is a great idea but thank you very much anonymous in columbus ohio sixty nine sixty nine along time boner first-time donor human resource working in human resources

1:52:57 You were absolutely right on target a few weeks back when discussing the meme of reverse discrimination occurring today as a result of legislation. It's very real and I want no part of it! Requesting a little kid shut up slave plus two to the head job karma in hopes that i can escape keep up the great work as I appreciate all you do. Shut Up Slave! You've got Karma. Uh, Renee Estevez in Orlando, Florida 6969. I'm donating for a friend not because he needs to get laid but because he's already getting fucked by unemployment! I'd like to keep him as a housemate since he's a pretty decent cook

1:53:46 Help me keep this hetero domestic partnership alive with some jobs, jobs, jobs karma and a little JC slide whistle for good luck. Keep up the good work. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs! Let's vote for jobs! James, Sir James Pierce in Copperas Cove Texas 6969 thank you John and Anna for keeping up with the show even when circumstances work against you I hope others appreciate it as much as i do how about a little karma for all the producers who are down on their luck a Merry Christmas and a bah humbug. Merry Christmas slave Bah humbug slave You've got Karma

1:54:37 That will close our segment. 69! 69, dude! Alright thank you so much Swazilnafers. Meanwhile Greg Stone Rapid City South Dakota double nickels on the dime please check email for story of karma he needs uh okay I have to go get that oh it's in a oh this came through i didn't follow up on this see I didn't understand this either but now I see because okay let me just explain and by the way I don't know if I really like So he sent us a link and I'm like, okay you know I know Greg Stone so now it's Sir Greg. I'll download his link but it was uh... It's a disk image. Yes for the Mac! Yeah and then so I got that and then it's like isn't like you need a password? And then it says that the password will be in the PayPal message. So now he tells me what the password is but not what am I supposed to do? Am I supposed to open this right now

CHAPTER 41 / 55 Discussion

Immigration Struggles and Moving to the Mountains

Listeners from Florida and North Carolina send donations to support the hosts' struggle with U.S. immigration. One donor describes moving from California to the mountains of North Carolina without police interference. Another message comes from an Argentinian living in Belgium who enjoys the show despite disagreeing with the hosts' beliefs.

immigration· north carolina· belgium· argentina· karma

1:55:37 Don't know I can't open it at all cuz they don't have a Mac Anyway, I'm having JC make an image. I'll take a look at it sometime Steven He says is that you just something we're supposed to look at well even J doesn't he want some karma? And then when give him jobs didn't say anything about karma. This is the story of Weet Ridge Colorado double nickels on the dime Yale a South ski in St. Petersburg, Florida double nickels on the dime Here are some spare change to beat those US immigrant immigration jerks to the pavement

1:56:17 and for me okay mz in john to buy a money printing press i'm moving to get no nation weiner schnitzel with my smoking hot girlfriend in the new year so give us some carmen order to avoid adams irs with guns situation and the crumbling foundation of the anti-democratic european union good luck here's the karma you've got karma you're gonna need that first of all he's got the smoking hot girlfriend that's that's half and a half the job done mark pippin uh... pip again in weaverville north carolina at home of the sheriff and his hot sauce fifty-five double niggles on the dime please accept this donation on behalf of the future game or i co or reco right going to think if asked she would demurely point out that a more correct pronunciation of he said is gaysha

1:57:10 not as one hears these days, geisha. Geisha. We'll say geisha also during it we change our pronunciations as the listeners demand also during or evacuation from California nuts these some of this summer week provided We provided that car or prove that karma work. Sorry during two cross-country drives we experienced no hassles border patrol roadblocks cops or mechanical failures Please give us some start making a living karma for our new life in the mountains very nice I'd love to go there you've got Karma Mountains Flat here, it's no mountains flat touch

1:57:56 that just flat. So I decided it was the time to give even if it is not as much as you deserve. To be honest with you both, I often disagree with much of what you say but the entertainment value and tenacity in which you defend your beliefs is what keeps me tuned in. Best wishes for the holidays from an Argentinian in Belgium! Wow Solange, which I've always felt Solange's a beautiful name

CHAPTER 42 / 55 Discussion

Global Donations and Breast Cancer Support

Donations arrive from Australia and Ireland, including one from a self-employed author who published an interactive book on iTunes. The final donor of the day, Billy from Kansas, shares that his mother is battling breast cancer. The hosts offer "f-cancer" karma and a "fiscal cliff" jingle for the listeners.

australia· ireland· breast cancer· chemo· donations

1:58:43 great name felix schuud in neuhausen, deutschland? uh 55 i don't have a comment from him kevin benson in bodina new south wales 54 63 This is a Sunday, no one donates donation but I am busy till then. From Gitmo Nation down under 5463 donation wish i had more disposable funds to throw your way fit 4242 in memory of the great Douglas Adams plus 1212 for the end of the world as it really happens if it really happens and he won't miss it Adam 1

1:59:34 Focus one as a new eight-week listener. This is my second donation I'm calling all the Yankee scumbags no donators as douchebags If down under can do it well yankee pussies support lowlands adam or is it low life to you win g pussy stop begging hillary she's still a great actress here in oz comes off angry and disconnected because she still mad that someone dropped the house on her sister they're not drones, they are flying monkeys he needs a give me shelter karma yeah alright kevin

2:00:24 You've got karma. Sir Chris Lewinsky in Sherwood Park, somewhere. Sherwood Park I guess Alberta 50 and... Are you okay? Nigel Baker, country Dublin. Yeah. 50 Ireland yeah. Hey John and Adam and all the human resources thanks for your fantastic work and a very happy Christmas to you all these are tough times and I'm self-employed and have just published my first book for the iPad on iTunes some karma from my new book Skelling Michael an interactive video book. Skellig Michael. Skellig. Oh skellig s k e l l i g

2:01:23 I need to try Shut Up Slave 2 to the head. Oh, okay. Yeah we got it, we got iiit. SHUT UP! You've got it! Shut up slave. You've got karma. 2 to the head karma Happy to oblige. Old Kenthian in Melbourne uh 50 Dear Joe and Alan, episode 469 had the best artwork ever. Stop stop stop wait a minute what is this Joe and Alan? What is that? Wait a minute! Is this our new names Joe and Alan? Well from he's in Australia. Joe C Dvorak and Alan C Curry

2:02:03 Here's 50 bucks for the artwork. I haven't even listened to the show yet Maybe it's enough for Alan to buy a coffee in Euro land Merry Christmas mofos Looking forward to a hot pot down under they just made my day regardless Joe and Alan I am Alan Curry Joe C Dvorak bill Billy in Kinsley, Kansas. This is our last donor for today. Oh wow! ITM John and Adam all this at this rate i'll gain knighthood in 2022. I want to apologize for not donating sooner as my mother had come down with breast cancer and being the only son a thousand miles away I needed to use that money to get her out. Chemo thanks for the news entertainment and media assassination hopefully this will assist in a house in Europe for Mickey and Adam maybe John can throw on some pot throwing oh throwing some pot no

2:03:00 no throw in a pot, throw it in the pot for a new sound card. Uh if I could I would be like a douche bag for myself give him a douche bag. Well if you really want one. He's a douche bag for his buddy Schizo for not donating okay some karma from his ma or his mom as she whips the shit out of breast cancer finally a fiscal cliff for the rest of the slaves and Gitmo nation as we collectively careen head on into fiscal oblivion lastly why does JCD Such an issue with Atlas Shrugged. I don't, i'd love that book All right so i'm gonna give you a little special here fistful cliff for you and f cancer for your mom in economy You've got karma there you go if that doesn't whip it nothing will And that's it? That's it yeah short

CHAPTER 43 / 55 Discussion

Show 500 Planning and Amsterdam Studio

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak discuss the future of the show, noting that episode 500 will likely occur in Spring 2013. Curry explains that he has set up a full studio in Amsterdam and cannot easily move to other cities like Vienna or Paris due to the equipment and cost. They thank the listeners for their continued financial support.

amsterdam· vienna· podcasting· studio· 2013

2:03:55 So we will continue on our merry way with 471 coming up. And we're actually on the road to 1221, 12 Christmas which would be a slow week as usual and that we have to take a look at another possibility for next year's promotion something think about I'm not sure how to go about it show 500 will be coming up sometime in March or April I believe Yeah, yeah. And I'll still be here by the way. Probably? Let's make a bet! No let's not make it that way. 20 more shows from Get Mo Nation down on him Oh my goodness you mean Lowlands

2:04:34 Lowlands down. Oh, yeah right low less 30 more I mean 30 episodes coming up. All right, really? I'm Adam Curry. Really? I'm still Joe curry. I'm Somewhere somewhere you guys go to Vienna and get out of the way those pepper rats well here's the problem I Mean so now I have an actual studio. I've got a whole thing all set up It's like I can't carry this across the border I mean so then we'd have to go and come back, and you know what? So what i'm gonna... I'm paying for rent in Austin. I'm paying for rent in Amsterdam and then I'm going to go to Vienna! Like let's be realistic. You sound like Mickey by the way. Hey let's go to Paris for New Year's. Sure sure yeah no problem. I'm made of money

2:05:22 and jump on the high-speed train. Anyway, we would... The high speed train! We appreciate everything that you do for us by supporting our programs so we can bring you the best media assassination and analysis possible There's only one place for you to go to support us and that is devorak.org slash n a It's your birthday, birthday of Noah Jenner! Only one today. Makes it real easy to serve Dean Bertram, one of our knights, congratulates his dame Donna... His Dame Lit I should say She turns 14 on the 17th Is he way ahead? Is that what is trying to do? Make sure that he gets in before the end of the world If so then you did a good job Congratulations for all your buddies here at The Noah Jenner Show It's your birthday yeah

CHAPTER 44 / 55 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony for Major Donors

The hosts conduct a formal knighting ceremony for Ralph Nielsen, Mike Keeler, Anthony Leon, Gerald Gionnet, and Felix Schuettel. These individuals are recognized for contributing $1,000 or more to the show. They are welcomed to the "No Agenda Roundtable" with a humorous list of traditional knightly rewards.

knighthood· donations· roundtable· honor· ceremony

2:06:16 We have a number of nights this is what's kinda cool is it just before the end of the world everyone said starting to happen we have had so many people who got on board with monthly donations, 1212 or 33s or 30 and eventually you know it does happen. You will become a knight I mean it's funny how that works It's kind of the reverse of a credit card. You're actually saving something up and then there you go you get it And for these people are very happy for them and proud to welcome them into the roundtable so John if you could Joe are you there? Yeah! I'm here got my sword ready to come out

2:07:00 Okay, we get mine too. That's right can we have Ralph Nielsen? Mike Keeler Anthony Leon Gerald Gionnet and Felix Schuettel all step forward please you Today will all become Knights of the Noah general roundtable because if your contributions to the best podcasting University might have $1,000 or more so I hereby pronounce thee Sir Ralph sir Mike sir Anthony sir Gerald and sir Felix all my to the knowage in a round table come on down gentlemen for your hookers and blow, your rent boys in Chardonnay, your hot pants and booze, your wenches in beer, you Rubin S. women in rose, your geishas in sake, vodka vanilla and mutton and mead! And if you're into it, your gerbils and ginger ale so congratulations for joining the Knights of the Noah Jenner Roundtable It is a honor to have all of you here truly an honor thank you so much for your support I had that yeah before you get into your crazy stuff I know you've got backed up

CHAPTER 45 / 55 Discussion

Amy Goodman and the Civil Society Meme

Adam Curry introduces a new "meme" regarding the term "civil society," which he heard Amy Goodman use repeatedly during a climate conference in Doha. Goodman interviewed Todd Stern and Jonathan Pershing, questioning the U.S. role in obstructing UN climate deals. Curry argues that "civil society" is a loaded political term used by the left.

amy goodness· doha· greenpeace· civil society· climate change

2:07:59 I gotta get this meme out of the way so we can start looking for it more. Okay It may be a dud because i haven't been saying much about it This is the meme that you announced to much fanfare? Yeah It's not really happening, is it? What? The meme You don't know what the meme is Yeah! The meme is that Nelson Mandela's gonna die No! That's not a meme! That was a prediction Oh Gee Joe Predicting he's gonna die is no big deal I'm just saying it's going to be the distraction of the week and it is going to step all over something probably more this Benghazi stuff. Okay, then what your meme? The meme is...I must have even figure out by listening does Amy Goodman Amy Goodman is that when she's at the climate thing in Doha or wherever was she drops the meme about three times in here and their only reason I took this clip because all during the Doha

2:08:55 The guy who was the head of Greenpeace is very famous. He's got some jazzy name that people like to say over and over again, I can't remember what it was personally but she'll say it. They're all using this meme. And I started looking up the meme and it's pretty onerous, and we have to keep an eye out for it and call people out when they use it. Civil society groups are extremely frustrated here President Obama, in his first speech after he was elected said that he didn't want our children to live in an America that isn't threatened by the destructive power of a warming planet. Yesterday, a number of civil society groups held a news conference and they said at that news conference, Kuminaidu

2:09:54 Greenpeace International, said Todd Stern and Jonathan Pershing have come to Doha with their needles stuck in the groove of obstructing the UN process and art they have perfected. And he said that it is disrespectful of President Obama to inflict on us two negative negotiators who act as if the comments he made after his election were never made. Obama should pick up the phone and tell his delegates to follow his lead or alternatively call them back to Washington. That's what Kumail Nanjian said. Jonathan Pershing, are you following President Obama's wishes? And how do you respond to civil society groups who are saying that the US is the lead obstructor to any kind of negotiated deal here in Doha? I have no comment on the first part of that. On the second piece, I think the United States' role is very much one of engaging actively and constructively in the discussion

2:10:54 We are one of the significant contributors to the intellectual thinking and the process we have been. We will continue try to do that It doesn't mean it will agree with everyone on everything this is after all a negotiation kill it Yeah, he's basically telling her screw herself well Let me ask you question before you get into anything what the hell was Amy Goodman doing talking like that in Doha? Shouldn't she be did like at home base reading the news off the teleprompter Well, apparently she can't sure doesn't know what a concise question is. I mean how come we don't get any like Any invitations to talk about the war to talk about the warming planet? We could get we could get invited to that if we want if you played our cards right yeah Okay So here's what she drops us in two or three times has been using use it called civil society and

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Defining Civil Society and Its Five Enemies

The hosts analyze the definition of "civil society" as the sector outside of family, state, and market. They discuss five "enemies" of civil society, including despotism, the revival of Republican civic virtues, and specific forms of nationalism. They argue that the concept is designed to undermine traditional institutions like the church and the nation-state.

civil society· ngos· nationalism· despotism· republican virtues

2:11:42 You know what civil society is? Have you ever heard this before? Civil society, I mean don't we live in a civil society isn't that kind of what we're supposed to be all about civil society The Wiki's page has got a good description, a good definition. Let me read Civil Society. No that is not what it is about at all! What are you nuts? It's the new leftist term that they're going to slip in and expose... And its interesting because it actually has enemies let me reach into the definitions civil society as the area outside of the family the state and the market where people associate with each other too to advance common interests

2:12:20 It's sometimes considered to include the family and the private sphere, and then referred to as the third sector of society distinct from government and business. This goes on and on... Why what? And it's like a... Well where does this take place then? Can I walk out the door into civil society is there a place is there is there a street sign so I know that when I've arrived at civil society Joe? You have to read the whole thing. It's ridiculous, but what it amounts to is something that even though it does include NGOs and something outside of NGOs and you can call yourself a civil society group. She used that term three times. Okay. Civil society group is distinct from anything else and let me read you... The only thing that's interesting to me I mean all things just a typical bunch of bullcrap but what kind of interesting hope its still here

2:13:16 enemies of civil society. That would be us! We're the enemies of civil society, I'm sure. Oh if you read this everything is but this is the future up the politically correct movement civil society If you read, if you love it when I reach the enemies. You can see distinctively that pretty much everything that we stand for is against civil society where did we are? The enemy's right. Right. Give me an example. A hall five distinct enemies and by the way he's an interesting character this John a Hall five distinct enemies of civil society one despotism This is the idea of fear which discourages

2:13:59 Any type of group that's formed between society and government. It's not like a circle on Google+. Yeah, okay to this idea fear with it discourages groups that form between society and government So in other words civil society right? Revival of the tradition, this is an enemy by the way. Revival of the tradition of Republican civic virtues. These are qualities that hold a moral value or moral principle and amount to dispositions to obey." I wasn't ready for that! Of course not. This would include... You will obey.

2:14:45 but this what would this is really about isn't the you by the way you better obey civil society but this refers to churches civics class in school and your talk did be a certain way you should obeyshould defaced it you shouldn't litter for example would be a enemy of right right that number three specific forms of nationalism This would be where the rule of the majority wins and assimilation is used in order to form an ideal society. The melting pot is an enemy of civil society, in other words. I don't understand why? Because! It's not multi-culti it's trying to get everybody to be the same way we want everyone to speak different languages Wait a minute... I always thought

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Globalism, Multiculturalism, and the Wi-Fi Milieu

The discussion on civil society concludes with the claim that it promotes globalism and extreme political correctness. Adam Curry shares a tangent about how the Dutch pronounce "Wi-Fi" as "wee-fee," illustrating how language and terms propagate within a specific cultural milieu or "totalizing ideology."

globalism· multiculturalism· political correctness· wifi· netherlands

2:15:37 that the melting pot was the whole, it was the multicultural society WAS the whole idea. Now we're supposed to be all the same? No, you're supposed to be all different! Okay... No national languages, everybody having their keep it to themselves essentially. None of this idealism no nationalism. Nationalisms bad now think about global you know the global elite and how they would like to get rid of the for one thing they don't want the church have any power or they want no nationalism so we have one big world government is a world government stuff right my favorite Now the one that's a harder to understand is totalizing, this is number four and all it says is totalizing ideologies. Okay now totalizing ideology you actually have to Google to figure out what it means and I haven't read this for a week or two but I'll try to summarize but let's go to number five essentialist cultural ideals

2:16:40 These would be social cages of individuals that determines the function and value of that person in society. Come again? Now, can you kind of figure out what that might mean? Come again let me try it, lemme try it. Essentialist cultural ideals...in other words say your an artist these would be social cages of individuals that determines the function and value of that person in society You had me at function but i think that believe in these for example like the two of us where uh... are or scheduled yeah in a pre-consumption notion of you know on the crack pot or your the crack bottomed about skill i can't these guys deserve stereotypes there are bad but i thought i was just looking at this thing while civil society is it isn't extremely subversive concept

2:17:43 that is aimed at promoting multiculturalism, no nationalism, no national identities, globalism world government political correctness to an extreme. Where the enemies can be identified which in the enemy seem to be common sense, uh, the enemy would be common sense. Uh You know kind you love your country The church is a good thing for people who need religion right and that blah blah anyway So I just think this is a meme we have to keep a lookout for because it's a really bad bad bad one

2:18:19 how does any good and get on it you know trip like this i mean so did she get a memo or did she hang out with the budget douche knuckles who were just saying about other little of civil society but a lot of us are coming up has a propagate that's what i'm gonna say yeah it's it's like it's weird the way propagated its kind of let go away can describe is like when your silicon valley covering tech all the time which idea have to do Things will come up like you know the word Wi-Fi Wi-Fi. Yeah, and if we used to be 802 11 Oh yeah I got wireless when is it within the Wi-Fi group for me now? You start calling a Wi-Fi. I got Wi-Fi Wi-Fi It just happens in the milieu at Jesus pop ups well now I say Wi-Fi I actually I understand this because I'll tell you something completely nuts Do you know that in The Netherlands they call it a weefie eefy Wow and the whole world knows that its Wi-Fi but for some reason

2:19:14 for some crazy ass reason the Dutch have decided to call it Wifi. And that's a milieu again yeah total milieu, milieu wifi crazy so anyway this is this people should go to the wiki page and type in civil society wiki or google civil society wiki and then also there's totalizing ideologies uh which I will read examine is another thing to look into this is really this is really extremely bad this isn't everything that's wrong with the country for the world with the world we talk about not let the world is pretty much locked into this concept of civil society and I would and then named like you said it says your herds along civil yeah no it's now what is about its it's a it's an underground right

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Oreo's 100th Birthday and Antarctica Delivery

A marketing stunt for Oreo's 100th birthday involved delivering 5,000 cookies to scientists in Antarctica. The promotion also included a donation to a "solar-powered penguin cam." The hosts criticize the news media for covering what they describe as a blatant corporate advertisement as if it were a legitimate news story.

oreo· antarctica· south pole· penguins· marketing

2:20:04 it's kind of like a way to work state. It's kinda like that, one of those new world order terms civil society. Totally new world order. Alright that's my meme for the day. Okay well then let me give you some actual... And now back to real news I often see things on television where i think wow that is just an amazingly crazy promotion for product but somehow there's a group out there who have taken it beyond what the Joe and Alan Consulting Group can do. It blew me away, whereas we've put together some crazy promotions in our time but nothing like this. Yep that's a giant Oreo cookie he is making its first ever cookie delivery to Antarctica! Its a celebration to mark Oreos 100th birthday

2:20:59 hundred years since people first set foot on the South Pole not only did the Oreo surprise scientists with 5,000 cookies also made a donation to the world's first solar-powered penguin cam and wore earmuffs as well. Lucky penguins! Oh yeah! That's good for us have a great week too! Can you believe that someone actually pitched the idea of sending a giant oreo cookie to Antarctica? And not just that, but then 5,000 cookies for the scientists there and the world's first solar-powered penguin cam. Can you believe it? Wow! There was some sales guy involved in this bullcrap. Someone went, that's a great idea. Sold. And they covered it. They got on the news. This is what drives me nuts and they got it on the news. They actually did. Oh man...

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David Petraeus and Afghanistan War Crimes

Reports suggest that David Petraeus may have authorized "double tap" drone strikes in Afghanistan, which target rescuers who arrive at the scene of an initial explosion. The hosts argue that this practice is a violation of the Geneva Convention. They express frustration that the American public is not more vocal in protesting these military tactics.

david petraeus· afghanistan· war crimes· drone strikes· geneva convention

2:21:49 All right, let me see the thing by the way one thing I want to talk about last couple of shows just want to mention it keep an eye out for it there was a headline is pretty much says what I'm What it's about which is David Petraeus may have committed much worse crimes in Afghanistan. Oh Do tell they're starting to pull the the drone attacks and especially the double tap where because apparently it's a violation of every law ever passed in Worldwide. Geneva Convention to first blow up something and then attract people trying, you know try to attract a Red Cross or somebody trying to save lives and then blow them up yeah and it seems to be some indication that Petraeus came up with this idea

2:22:38 and uh... because we also go back to our list they were bad um... was that there is a limit isn't exactly going on with the trace that we don't know isn't cool isn's exactly what what does the very first week he leaves video that came out that showed you know these couple of dudes getting machine gun by uh... by helicopter gunship and then you see if people come in try and help them and then they've been got machine gun too is this exact with the same thing We are a bunch of assholes. I mean, I'm sorry we just as Americans... I am not doing it! You can't call me an asshole i'm against it Listen Joe you're totally in on this you're not out there demonstrating saying stop this bullcrap? I'm saying stop this bull crap but don't to demonstrate okay all right well I say stop this bull crap. Well to demonstrate. I say stop this bull crap All right let me play uh let me play a funny clip here

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Matt Damon on Taxes and Firefighters

Actor Matt Damon appeared on the *Tavis Smiley Show* and stated that he wants to pay more taxes to support services like firefighters and police. The hosts mock Damon, pointing out that most firefighters are volunteers and that federal taxes primarily fund military operations and drone strikes rather than local infrastructure.

matt damon· tavis smiley· taxes· firefighters· pbs

2:23:35 This is Matt Damon. Are you familiar with Matt Damon? Yeah, I've heard of him. So he's an actor and he plays a tough guy in the movies And he's an idiot because this is about Fiscal Cliff and he's on the Tavis Smiley show And Tavis of course is on our national treasure, the PBS's which is a public television brought to you by Monsanto and Archer. Yeah, Tavis has got like a lifesaver in his mouth all the time. Exactly! So he said hey man what about the fiscal cliff and everything? Matt Damon is such I mean such an idiot

2:24:21 And he takes it all the way to a punchline which I just found incredible and that this is on television, on so-called smart television. That people watch and go oh yeah no this is right this is truth Do you think that ultimately on the things that matter to you or the things that matter to me um...that Obama as president is going to be on their right side of history? This is my favorite term Because if anyone is going to be on the right side of history, it's going to be Joe and Alan from the crackpot and buzzkill show Okay, not Obama. Not Hillary Clinton we're gonna be on the right side of history I desperately hope so because when I need that and why me what

2:25:04 Why? Why do we need it, why does he hope so. Well listen! I don't need that i'm in the one percent so...I need to pay more taxes. I need to pay more taxes he says okay let's see if he understands the concept It's the truth you know I don't begrudge..i dont drive by a firehouse and see guys playing cards and begrudge the fact that my taxes pay them Does Matt Damon understand that most firemen are volunteer and they don't get paid at all? And if anything it is going to be local, council city or state taxes but not federal taxes that pay for your fireman you idiot. Because every once in a while the bell goes off and those guys run into a burning building

2:25:53 People who are strangers or people who are my friends don't you understand that the money the extra? Taxes that you want to pay is going to double tap people with drones. Don't can't don't don't you read a newspaper You idiot, don't you see where the money is actually going To us asshole Americans killers of the world What I'd like you to play the clip but but let me I'm baffled. I'm always baffled it to the point of stupification As to why anybody in their right mind says I want to pay more taxes. Oh, because he's an idiot! It's amazing Or they're cats you know and uh...I don't wanna do that You know?

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Social Justice and the Congo Comparison

Matt Damon argues that paying higher taxes is a matter of "social justice" and suggests that those who complain should look at life in the Congo. The hosts counter that billions in aid to places like Haiti have been stolen by elites. They encourage listeners to "bit torrent" Damon's movies rather than paying for them.

matt damon· social justice· congo· haiti· taxes

2:26:35 I don't know that i'm built to do that maybe, but i'd rather Pay another percent or two for some you know Police who are gonna make sure our kids For some police! Another percentage of 2 for some police. Wait let's listen what the police going to do man? Because we're safe and we're safe We're gonna be safe You know occasionally they put themselves in harms way Now wait for it wait for it wait for what this idiot is about to say You know, I like driving on nice roads and... Yeah! Nice roads. Hello Matt Damon? That nice road is state taxes maybe it's a toll road It doesn't come from your extra money that you are- which you were more than welcome to pay Um..you know, uh, you know? I believe...I believe....You know? You know, I just

2:27:28 I believe that we're all in it together. Oh, civil society! We're all in this together now wait for it and and I wonder you know these people who get so angry about a couple more percentage points It's like what? What are you talking about really You want us you want to see what life looks like without that go to the Congo Go there's they're they're rich people. They're rich people in Haiti ah thank you Thank you for bringing it up well listen mr.. Matt Damon a whole extraordinaire Everyone gave money to Haiti and the same people are talking about giving more money stole it They're all stealing the money Matt Damon go check it out You want to live there? You know I mean, it's like so So for me III you know those

2:28:23 Those issues of social justice as well, like for me I-I those are the most important thing. I'm reading a lot about boxing Shut up! Shut up and no one is ever allowed to if you're gonna watch a Matt Damon movie Bit torrent it steal it from him Bit torrented do not go to that movie Bit torrented from that guy Do NOT go watch his movie What an A-hole And Tavis Smiley too Well, to have a smile is just a speech for the man. Oh my goodness! You know people are lucky that there's stuff... they're lucky that we're around. The best podcast in the universe! I didn't know he said you know? I didn't know he said ya know, ya know, ya know, I believe, I believe, so much. Don'tcha know?! I'm just asking if you knew it. Yeah okay was it just...? I don't why these guys do this. It's beyond me. I want to be taxed more

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Gérard Depardieu's Tax Exile in Belgium

French actor Gérard Depardieu has moved to the Belgian village of Neuchâtel to avoid high taxes introduced by President François Hollande. Belgium does not have a wealth tax, making it a popular destination for wealthy French citizens. The hosts discuss the "wimpy" sound of European sirens compared to American ones during the segment.

gerard depardieu· belgium· france· taxes· wealth tax

2:29:19 Really? Then why do you even go and... Why don't you just, y'know, you can volunteer more money. Yeah, yeah. Legal! Well speaking of such, there's big big news here in Euro-land The Belgium village of Neuchâtel is to become home to actor Gérard Depardieu, who's the latest Frenchman to leave his native country for tax reasons. After a series of tax hikes introduced by socialist president François Hollande, the Asterix star has bought a house and is considering taking up residency in the country which does not have a wealth tax. Everyone's moving to Belgium! He's moving to Belgium? Yeah, all the rich French dudes are moving to Belgium because... They're not going to Switzerland. No! Because it's next door, it's part of the barony. You know they call up Baron von Pelsmacher and say hey I'm just gonna move down a little bit you know I'm gonna Wow I hear sirens here. And then he's gonna move from France down to... Mr. Curry, Mr. Curry! Listen hold on... Open the door! Can you hear it?

2:30:21 It's right here on the canal too. They're coming to take me away, hee-hee ha ha! Yeah you know what? I have to say when it comes to sirens The American sirens are cool and this ta-too ta-too isn't that kind of wimpy? I can do it Haven't you ever thought about that? It's wimpy...It's wimpy! Wimpy I say. It's ear catching. But its' wimpy I mean, have you ever been around one of these fire trucks here in the US of A where you got your window down and now they have the loudest siren in the world and then they honk that horn which sounds like a train coming through. It's just deafening ya! Hey good news we have an extension on the expiration date on FDA compliance policy guide with regards to radio frequency identification feasibility studies and pilot programs for drugs

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FDA RFID Tracking in Pharmaceutical Drugs

The FDA has extended a policy regarding the use of RFID chips in pharmaceutical drugs to track counterfeits. The hosts point out that this technology could be used to track individuals who ingest the chips. They reference the Federal Register, which describes RFID as a "promising technology" for the agency's enforcement efforts.

fda· rfid· counterfeit drugs· federal register· surveillance

2:31:20 I've been extended to December 31st 2014. Have you ever heard of this? No! So the Food and Drug Administration... But i'm happy, i'm happy You should be The Food and Drug Administration has been experimenting putting RFID chips into drugs to track counterfeit drugs. Of course, you also ingest this stuff and they can track you but it literally says here the FDIs identified RFID as a promising technology to be used in the various efforts to combat counterfeit drugs

2:32:02 This directive describes how the agency intends to exercise its enforcement discretion regarding certain regulatory requirements that might otherwise be applicable to studies involving RFID technology for drugs. So, you know the whole idea of injecting chips into you and stuff that...that you laughed at me about four years ago? Here it is in the Federal Register putting it right into the drugs tracking it as you put into your tummy if he is in your stomach there's no way that this thing will get out and from a piece that small no way I mean look we let up pooped out you gonna poop it out and is going to go down the toilet down the drain is going to be at this Jewish treatment plan they give but the body where's where's curry apparently he's fallen into the sewage treatment plant

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Protests in Bahrain and Portugal

Anti-government protests continue in Bahrain, with activists claiming the West supports the monarchy despite human rights violations. In Portugal, thousands have taken to the streets of Lisbon to protest harsh austerity measures in the new national budget. The hosts note that these significant international events receive very little coverage in the U.S. media.

bahrain· portugal· lisbon· austerity· human rights

2:32:57 Okay, all right then. Okay as you wish I see it differently but as you wish You got anything else there Joe? No, I'm reading about this is a bunch of spy stuff that's not interesting and then there's yeah Crazy it gets No, no really not really I got let's see if we have one more clip left. I thought you might have oh yeah Yeah, Portugal protests are port they're going crazy in Portugal and Bahrain actually played Bahrain Bahrain it is Purple beret tens of thousands of people have marched in Bahrains capital Manama as anti-government protests continue the Gulf monarchy The uprising has been going on for almost two years now when its official

2:33:49 met with a brutal response by the country's security forces. Seyed Yusuf Al-Muhafta from the Bahrain Center for Human Rights says authorities are firm in their actions because they think they're backed by the West Government of Bahrain, they have a huge support from western country so that's why they don't care about human rights violation. More than 100 protesters were killed, 1000 were tortured, beaten and arrested in the last one year and half I didn't understand a word that dude said. Good report pal! Good work Russia today. Nobody in American media will even touch this topic

2:34:27 There's a and they by the way, they showed some videos I could be bullshit videos But they were protests of some sort with the Bahrainian flag. Yeah by the tens of thousands I mean it looked like about a quarter of a million people who walked walking around bitchin Wow So that's something nobody's discussing also the Portuguese are Moaning and groaning about their situation. I don't blame them either thousands of people have taken to the streets of Lisbon to protest against next year's budget The new financial plan is one of the harshest in a country's recent history And we'll take away the equivalent of amongst wages for many workers Portugal's government is committed to austerity measures as it struggles to meet the terms of its international creditors That wasn't even newspapers here They're not even talking about it here, and you can fly there in an hour-and-a-half

2:35:12 That wasn't even shown there. No, no, that's crazy You don't want to give anyone any ideas? No This is it's just as bad as in the you and don't don't give any slaves the idea is you go out and protest on the street No, no instead we've got Phillips and Heineken and they put together the Christmas Canal parade of lights Everyone could yeah, I'm good stand on the canal like oh there's some lights going by on boats Wow And I said 1890 it's even better they had like little Mickey Mouse ears with red lead lights on top and They get handed them out and everyone's walking around with these two. I should get some pictures for you Oh, yeah Google this so get some more pictures that we can use in the newsletter all I google for a second Google Christmas

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Amsterdam Canal Parade and Final Sign-off

Adam Curry describes the "Christmas Canal Parade of Lights" in Amsterdam, where participants wear LED-lit Mickey Mouse ears. The hosts conclude the episode, promising an update on Thursday regarding Curry's "exile" status. They sign off with their traditional catchphrases and a final call for donations to support their "media assassination" efforts.

amsterdam· canal parade· sign-off· media assassination· no agenda

2:36:00 Christmas, hold on. Christmas Canal Lights Parade I think is what it was You Google that you can see some pictures. Yeah there you go. Hold on. Pictures Images There we go What do we got? Oh look how cute it all is It's all so pretty All the sleighs just like ahhh yeah Pretty winky binky I gotta get one I use Christmas Canal Lights Parade Amsterdam and there's a crap load of stuff. But you gotta get the headgear that people are wearing. Hold on, what would it be? Head gear... I'll just try head gear. Think that was what it was. No. I think typing in Hedgear Amsterdam is not gonna get what you want. Alright with that we shall shut down the broadcast for today

2:36:56 As we are still enabled to broadcast, which is kind of a good thing I guess. It's not easy sometimes Are you doing any other shows today? No i'm good to go! I'm gonna probably clean the office again Right You should tweet a picture of that Yeah that's the ticket I will Alright, so I'll be...I'll keep my eyes and ears open here. I'll have everything boots on the ground as we continue our life in exile here in Gitmo Nation Lowlands And we will bring you an update on Thursday obviously of everything that's going on here and how long we're gonna be stuck in the lowlands which seems to be until the end of the world Coming to you from Amsterdam The Netherlands Day 10 in Exile

2:38:00 Getmo Nation lowlands in the morning everybody I'm Alan C. Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where I remain, I am Josh C Joe Dvorak We'll be back on Thursday right here on No Agenda The best podcast in the universe Yes citizen you may return to your harpsichord Eat me Hillary Clinton! dvorak dot org slash n a