23:09 That's what we should be doing apparently. It needs help they don't have any justification for doing that so there is in most jurisdictions it's almost impossible until you've actually committed a crime to intervene in a way that can protect our society, that's what has to be changed is the legislation So we can act before a crime okay? Yeah, so what she saying is This is just the beginning. So what she's saying, and this is the woman who works for the Washington establishment and she has been doing it for 25 years as she pointed out we need legislation so that you can force Medicaid or lock up your clearly deranged child. Let's go to Sanjay Gupta. Sanjay, you study the brain.
23:53 I'm sorry, did you know that Sanjay studies the brain? John? Yeah they push this... he's a neurological surgeon or something. He studies the brain! I thought he was- But he just studies the brain. I thought it was a virologist and last time i looked he knew everything about swine flu. It's like me, you know, you call give me all these titles. Yeah, right same thing Sanjay you study the brain all the time are there all the time? Sanjay Gupta so anyone now some people get up and just go to work Sanjay Gupta gets up and studies the brain people chemical imbalances here Chemical problems that create a killer like this
24:32 I think so. Yeah, and I think you know I agree with your guest as well that you know I mean look these things they used to be sort of in the in the realm of the anecdotal You know now there's objective evidence objective evidence Of what we can see happen. It means like certainly in the brain there may be people who are more predisposed or set up for This gets even better when you're born we can check your DNA to see if you're predisposed for it or set up for and then something Pushes them over the edge. It's unclear obviously in most of these situations But you know I think that to think of mental illness as a real disease And and when you start thinking about it like that, it changes everyone's perspective You think about it more?
25:19 like you would think of someone who has heart problems again or cancer or diabetes it's just like having a cancer, or like diabetes. You can get a pill because you have a real disease It changes everyone's perspective in terms of how you potentially think about within your own family potentially getting diagnosed and treated Again I agree with John, i'm going to turn you in I think I should be good. That's potentially how he died any good legislation to stop me Yes, it's hard to do sometimes we're not talking about you gotta hear this woman one more time She's coming back This is fantastic Sanjay Gupta needs a shut up because he's like ruining the whole segment now and this woman's gonna take it back somebody show Up and take a family member away We're talking about someone, you know being able to talk about it openly make sure that they have taking me away
26:04 me away mommy resources they can go see somebody it's not easy it's not even available for many people around the country wolf and if no one Lisa has committed a crime yet but there are these signs out there there are great crime before its a crime It's pre-crackers. uh... of the other way they're making the association here that if you go to the practice range to shoot off a few rounds your killer dear buddy or killer really planning to kill somebody so it's not good people should be up in arms about this disorder wait a minute wait a minute she's gonna finish it off and then you'll really be open arms i want to go out there and kill people at home this is my ringtone i wanna go to kill people are going to track this ranges
26:59 Is it usually an indication of a psychiatric problem that can be treated for example with medicine? Oh, could it be treated with the medicine. Sure if you think they're going to take the medicine but usually when you have a person thats like that They won't acknowledge there's anything wrong Try getting them into treatment try getting them to take that pill You need to force them into treatment They won't do it not everybody is out doing this But for those who do It's because they have most likely refused treatment. I'll bet you anything that most of the people we're talking about and the person were talking about today was clearly to his family a danger, and they just didn't know what to do and they didn't have legislation and that's the problem. Is this amazing?
27:46 That's, I mean so we can just sit here and wait for the legislation to come. To back them up so that we could take action now i'll just add this a number of decades ago we were very fearful that people would be thrown into hospital just because they were different Yeah! Because of people like you lady crazy We wanted to protect them so we enacted all sorts of laws to protect people we've gone too far in that direction Now we have to face the reality and acknowledge that we have to step Our work getting people into treatment when they need it and letting doctors make those decisions, not just lawyers and judges. Wow! This is fantastic. She literally is saying that we were trying to protect people just because you're different, you're a little crazy like you have Tourette's syndrome or something
28:35 and uh... and we went too far in protecting these people now we have to take them and we have to get the medicated properly and quickly and not just let lawyers make decisions of politicians but professionals, yeah the law shouldn't have anything to do with it no only professionals like medical doctors like Sanjay Gupta who study the brain this is what is frightening me about this occurrence I have the one clip that fits into this. Just, this was...I think i heard this once on all the reports on CNN and they pulled it but this is the one that just kind of like oh really? Play neighbor with conflicting information. Got a closer look at the shooter, the 20 year old Adam Lanza you're getting new information Brian what are you learning? Well if police say they're picking up what they call good evidence about Adam Lanza his mother- Is that the right clip?!