Episode 444 · Sunday, 16 September 2012

New Red Line

A scripted tragedy in Benghazi collides with Israeli election interference and a Federal Reserve power grab as the Middle East reaches a volatile new red line.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 444

About this episode

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Mitt Romney face scrutiny for unprecedented election interference as the Benghazi tragedy is reframed as a scripted political strategy. The Obama administration continues to attribute the deaths of four Americans at the Libyan consulate to the Innocence of Muslims film, while Senator John McCain stumbles over pre-planned talking points on Morning Joe. These events signal a shifting red line in Middle East diplomacy and domestic narrative control.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and UN Ambassador Susan Rice lead a damage control campaign as the Salafist movement spreads unrest to German and British embassies in Sudan. In Chicago, an eighteen-year-old faces arrest in an FBI sting involving a fake car bomb, while the University of Texas at Austin undergoes a full campus evacuation following telephoned threats. Meanwhile, the Federal Reserve initiates QE3 under Ben Bernanke, and a leaked executive order reveals plans for Janet Napolitano and the DHS to seize control of the communication sector under the guise of cybersecurity.

Nakula Basseley Nakula makes a theatrical scarf-clad perp walk for probation violations as the media focuses on the deceptive production of the Desert Warriors film. In the United Kingdom, a teenager is convicted for disrespectful Facebook posts about fallen soldiers, highlighting a growing crackdown on free speech. The episode concludes with the formal knighting of Robert Rock and David Goose into the No Agenda Roundtable for their support of the value-for-value model.


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CHAPTER 01 / 49 Discussion

Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, Populism Meme and Honey Boo Boo

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 444 from Austin, Texas, and Silicon Valley on September 16, 2012. They discuss the emergence of "populism" as a negative political meme used by figures like Nancy Pelosi. The introduction transitions into brief mentions of pop culture and a report on two U.S. Marines killed at a NATO base in Afghanistan where Prince Harry was stationed.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· no agenda· populism· nancy pelosi· honey boo boo· afghanistan

00:00 Hey, I know it's early morning here, but what the heck, it's the weekend and I don't get a drop throughout the week. Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. It's Sunday, September 16, 2012. Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 444. This is no agenda. Populist and proud of it here in the capital of the drone star state, Austin, Tejas. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where there's no such thing as populism, I'm John C. Dvorak. populism. It's against the law. Where did I hear that? It's now starting here in America. People are talking about populism. I heard it this morning and I missed it. I was gonna record it but someone was saying populism, you know, is not a part of the democratic process. Crap. I think it was, it might have been Nancy Pelosi. She was on my Rubenesque Darling show, Candy Crowley, Crowley, Crowley, whatever.

01:08 Maybe it was her, I can't remember. But it was crazy! I'm like, really? You can't be... So it's just, if you're opposition now, you're just populist. That's it. Done. It's a new meme. Populism. I don't know how they came up with this and made it work. Because the public is so stupid, it's possible that it's fine. Yeah, hello. Of course. I mean, we are on the X-Factor. Did you see Honey Boo Boo last night? She was so cute. No, but, but, but... She was so cute. All is well John. She spit up her whole breakfast on the mom. It was really cute. Two US Marines are killed in an attack on a NATO base in Afghanistan. US officials report heavily armed insurgents attacked Camp Bastion, a British airbase in southern Afghanistan. A number of other troops were wounded. Prince Harry is stationed at the base. British officials say he was there at the time of the attack but was never in any danger. Thank goodness. All is well. Prince Harry is okay.

CHAPTER 02 / 49 Discussion

Flag-Draped Caskets, State Department Protocol and Media Policy

The return of four Americans killed in Benghazi, Libya, to Andrews Air Force Base prompts a discussion on the visual use of flag-draped caskets. A previous media agreement to avoid showing such images is contrasted with the high-profile ceremony attended by President Obama and Secretary of State Clinton. The discrepancy between treatment of State Department "elites" and regular military service members is highlighted.

andrews air force base· libya· flag-draped caskets· barack obama· hillary clinton· state department

02:09 Apparently it was targeted. Yeah, you'd hope Please so let me make an observation here And there's a lot of things because you know the psychological warfare is out in droves And it's really it's being played on this lighting the market it is That's right Flooding the market nice. I like that psyops is flooding the market I was here's the here's something that really made me mad and So we have an ambassador and his techno expert and two Navy SEALs who are killed in an embassy attack. And what that is, we'll get into later. All of a sudden, we see, well actually I think I have a clip of it because it made me so mad to hear this.

03:01 Here we go. Short clip. Tell you, this may be mad. The remains of four Americans killed at the U.S. consulate in Libya arrive at Andrews Air Force Base today. President Obama and Secretary of State Clinton stood by as the flag-draped caskets were brought off the plane. So this was something that the press stopped doing. Remember there was this big agreement, we're no longer going to show flag-draped caskets of our men and women who have been killed in Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, wherever the hell, Pakistan, wherever it is. And now no can do and now all of a sudden here. We are flag-draped caskets This must make every military person and family member really angry because this was it was done right it was like exactly no can do is don't go there no more flag-draped caskets all of a sudden now for the For the intellectuals or for the what do you call them?

03:57 elites Now there's a there's a word for intelligentsia. No when you're part of the State Department you're a douchebag. Oh, that would be the word yeah I don't know if they're douchebag and it's not nice. They're not douchebags, but the State Department appears to yeah I can't remember the name anyway, so if but if you're a part of the political elite uh... establishment establishment of the word i a little days i mean how many words do you need just the one that i can't think of uh... did all of a sudden we can do the flag break ask him but we've had this thousands thousands yet thousands of uh... uh... service men and women who come back in a box no pictures and it is that i'm sorry i'd really piss me off i got a guess it did now uh... now of course uh... i think we need to slightly revise our

CHAPTER 03 / 49 Discussion

Innocence of Muslims Film, Actor Deception and Media Analysis

Analysis of the anti-Islam film "Innocence of Muslims" reveals that actors were reportedly deceived during production, believing they were filming a project titled "Desert Warriors." The dialogue was later dubbed over with inflammatory references to Muhammad and Islam. The timeline of the film's release and its role as a catalyst for Middle East unrest is examined.

innocence of muslims· coptic christian· desert warriors· islam· nakula basseley nakula

04:51 Our view of what has taken place. I think that I think what really happened is now become clear and Well, let's can we do a greeting first? I'd love to do an in the morning to you John Cena Borak Well, give me an in the morning in the morning John Well no, I mean in the morning. You want a reel in the morning? In the morning! There we go, we don't say that enough. No I do. Well in the morning to you Adam Curry, in the morning to all ships at sea, boots on the ground, subs in the water and all the Knights, the NOAGENDA Knights of the NOAGENDA roundtable out there listening in. Yeah, and obviously our human resources all charged up ready to go in the chat room at NOAGENDAstream.com or NOAGENDAchat.net. Nice to see all of you and I say hearty in the morning to all of the populists around the world.

05:34 Nice to see you all. You're welcome here in our cave, you populist crazies, you. So have you figured out what really happened? I'm sure, I'm sure. It seems like we were just late because we're not, you know. Well, we're not. No, no, that's not true at all. You're completely wrong. Oh, I'm wrong about what? Well, um... About being late in fact we were a little ahead of the game when it came down to the basic Analysis, and I have a clip to prove it okay, which as soon as I hear this is that more another example of no agenda being ahead of the curve as usual okay, and of course I have so many clips as I look at yeah, I have quite a number of clips myself actually, but this is the this is the big one Yeah, I got it. Yeah ready

06:20 Yeah, hit it. fraud. He was sentenced to nearly two years in prison in 2010 for financial crimes and is barred from using the internet without approval under the terms of his supervised release. He told the Associated Press he's a Coptic Christian. Meanwhile, an activist who participate in the film said actors were deceived about the nature of the video and did not realize it was anti-Islam. Instead, they were given a script entitled Desert Warriors that was purported to be about life in ancient Egypt, but words like Mohammed and other references to Islam were dubbed over their voices after the filming. Yeah, so we kind of had all that.

07:15 We had it who else had it and nobody no no we had all of that on Thursday Yeah, and that was just after waking up one day one day like that's even before we have our morning coffee Okay, that's that's what we that's how we roll but I think we need to revise our Revise exactly what happened here just a little bit because it's pretty obvious now that the the inside crowd knows exactly who did this knows exactly what happened and in fact I have a wonderful clip here from our friend. You can always count on John McCain to blow the whistle unintentionally can always count on him to stumble and the war and give it away and

CHAPTER 04 / 49 Discussion

Barack Obama Weekly Address, Religious Denigration and Yearning

President Obama's weekly address emphasizes U.S. leadership and a rejection of the denigration of any religion, including Islam. The rhetoric regarding "millions who yearn for freedom" is analyzed for its linguistic programming and emotional framing. The administration's stance that the Benghazi attack was a spontaneous reaction to an internet video is presented.

barack obama· hillary clinton· benghazi· religious freedom· islam· linguistic programming

07:59 But he knows, I think a lot of the press people know, I know a Morning Joe guy, Joe, what's his name? Morning Joe? Scarborough. Scarborough. He knows exactly who did this and what happened and why. All right. But first, I think we need to just Continue of course has nothing to do with what? What you saw in the news I feel like we really have to first talk about some of the psychological warfare because it's just too good Don Lemon would be one of my favorites when it comes to just propagating because of course what is being what is the American public being told? What is the world being told that is about this film?

08:41 Correct about this film and the Muslims are crazy people. Yeah, whoops I'm sorry before you play the Don Lemon thing can I just reemphasize what we're trying to say here by playing a different clip? Yeah, oh sure sure difficult week for Hillary Hey, by the way her hair did look fabulous at Andrews Air Force Base. Did you see it? No? Well, maybe this because this clip I think was taken there. This has been a difficult week for the State Department and for our country. We've seen the heavy assault on our post in Benghazi that took the lives of those brave men. We've seen rage and violence directed at American embassies over an awful internet video that we had nothing to do with. It is hard for the American people to make sense of that because it is senseless.

09:42 Was she doing lyrics from the James Taylor song, I've Seen Fire, I've Seen Rain? Uh, they had a band behind her but they never cranked it up. It sounded like this. Oh, I've seen fire and I've seen rain. I've seen sunny days that I've... It sounded like it. Well, President Obama, along those lines, I'll just mix it up here, John. He came out on his little show, which no one watches. I'm sorry, about 800 people a week watch his weekly address on YouTube. And we watch it for you so you don't have to. And here's the salient points he made. On Friday, I was able to tell their families how much the American people appreciated their service. Without people like them,

10:22 Diplomats, that's the word I was looking for. If you're a diplomat, then you get the casket. America could not... Ah! Yeah, see, we could have gotten that. All right, now listen, listen, because this is important stuff. ...sustain the freedoms we enjoy, the security we demand, and the leadership that the entire world counts on. So just so you know, we are the leaders of the world, the whole world counts on our leadership. As we mourn their loss, we must also send a clear and resolute message to the world. Those who attack our people will find no escape from justice. We will not waver in their pursuit. And we will never allow anyone to shake the resolve of the United States of America. Now resolve is a big key word. This is what everyone's using these days. This tragic attack takes place at a time of turmoil and protest in many different countries.

11:06 No, no it started after this attack really mr.. President I've made it clear that the United States has a profound respect for people of all faiths Okay, we stand for religious freedom Okay, and we reject the denigration of any religion I'd found that to be interesting we reject the denigration of any religion the denigration what exactly does that mean I mean you can't you can't say your religion is stupid and Is that what that means? It means any sort of ridicule or criticism that sheds a negative light on the religion. Sounds like he should go and arrest Bill Maher right away. Yeah, he should go arrest Bill Maher. And give him his million dollars back. Just a thought. Including Islam. But there is never any justification for violence.

11:57 I know the images on our televisions are disturbing. Uh-huh. But let us never forget that for every angry mob, there are millions who yearn for the freedom and dignity and hope that our flag represents. How come they're not on television? I want to see angry mom there's millions for every and we're gonna quote for every mob there are millions of people who love us I think we have to hear that one again because it was so good I just want so I've seen the angry mom's never forget that for every egg and by the way this is this is wrong this is not good neurologist in the linguistic programming you're not supposed to say never forget you're supposed to say let us remember

12:37 Because this essentially makes you forget what he just said however we will not forget we shall remember this clip justification for violence I know the images on our televisions are disturbing But let us never forget that for every angry mob there are millions who yearn for the freedom and dignity and hope that our flag represents What is yearning by the way? What is it you're going? It's just sighing a lot. He's all sighing. Oh You have to have both hands over your heart Give me the definition of yearning that is exactly yearning Hold on. I love it when we look up these words. Let me just I just want to read it verbatim yearning definition of yearning a Yeah, oh wow John. You're so close to it a persistent Load hello page

13:29 It persists intense overpowering longing desire or need or craving Wow Which can also be a hunger like you're really hungry for it. Okay good That's the cause of America the ideals that took root in our founding the opportunity that drew so many to our shores and the awesome progress we have promoted all across the globe. Awesome. We are Americans. Osteoporosis, would you say? Osteoporosis that has drawn everyone to our shores. We know that our spirit cannot be broken and the foundation of our leadership cannot be shaken. And that is the legacy of the four Americans we lost. Yeah, just so you know. Okay, so that's all very, very important. Now,

CHAPTER 05 / 49 Discussion

Don Lemon and Fouad Ajami, Arab World Offense

CNN's Don Lemon interviews Professor Fouad Ajami of the Hoover Institution regarding an opinion piece on why the Arab world is easily offended. The segment critiques the psychological warfare and media framing used to explain the widespread protests at American embassies and schools across the Middle East.

don lemon· cnn· fouad ajami· hoover institution· arab world

14:11 Let us go to just a little bit of the psychological warfare because of course we have CNN mainly on script, Don Lemon. If you want a guy who's just a consummate professional and will just read the script and not mess around, you put Don Lemon on the air. The Benghazi consulate was the deadliest incident of this sudden blazing fury towards the United States. But look at this, in Lebanon, in Sudan, India and the Palestinian territories, Tunisia, Yemen and of course Egypt, violence and destruction to embassies, American schools, even fast food restaurants, all of this, this anger exploding from the Arab world over an amateur hour video clip posted on the internet.

14:58 that the government had nothing to do with it. I want to talk now with Professor Fouad. It's all about an amateur hour, amateur hour, but Don really cranks it up just a little bit. Fouad Ajami, excuse me for that. He's a senior fellow at the Stanford University's Hoover Institution, is a former director of Middle East Studies. Bring in the shill. At John Hopkins University. Thank you, Professor, for joining us. Your fascinating opinion piece in the Washington Post is titled, Why is the Arab world so easily offended? You should read this piece. Why are those Arabs so easily offended? I mean this is how deep this... That guy sounds like... This is a history of mine. Sounds like somebody from Connecticut. I just don't understand these people. Why are they so incredibly offended? But this guy is like a Stanford Research Hoover Institute. I mean he's got a whole list of credentials. Yeah, the Hoover Research Drinking Club. Yeah, thank you. He's like, well let me just tell you, Don. So, let's hear it. Why is the Arab world so easily offended?

CHAPTER 06 / 49 Discussion

Nakula Basseley Nakula, Scarf Perp Walk and Probation Violations

The filmmaker linked to the anti-Muslim video, Nakula Basseley Nakula, is shown being escorted by sheriff's deputies with his face covered by a scarf. Authorities questioned him regarding potential probation violations related to a previous bank fraud conviction that prohibited his use of the internet. The theatrical nature of the "perp walk" is questioned.

nakula basseley nakula· bank fraud· probation· internet ban· sheriff's deputies

15:56 Okay, I don't have to give you the answer because that's just ridiculous. But this is the kind of psychological warfare. Then of course, and I've never seen this before in my life. I love this. They get the so-called guy who created the film and they're trying to tie all these loose ends behind the guy that the felon. Did you see the perp walk? Did this did you see the walk that he did? No, I missed the perp walk. He looked like the invisible man. You gotta Google the picture. He literally had a white scarf wrapped around his head Which you never allowed to do if they really really want to go and get you. This morning a California man linked to an anti-muslim film was escorted overnight by sheriff's deputies

16:35 to an interview with federal officers. Why? Because it's part of the script. Why? Because... Why? What did he do that's illegal? Well, let's... No, no, listen carefully. ...covered, Nakula, Bessalee Nakula, willingly went in to be questioned about possible probation violations. Possible probation violations, you see, that's why... What? Making a movie? Yeah, he's not allowed... No, he's not allowed to upload it to the internet. He's not allowed to touch the computer. Why? What did he do? Was he a computer guy? Was he a computer felon? Did he do some sort of a scam? Yes! The guy who sends me those emails, did he have a botnet? Yes, yes, he was banking fraud. Has anybody told us any of this information? Is he running a botnet? What is he doing that got him banned from the internet? I'm asking you. Well my question, I can't answer that, but my question is why, every single guy they go and pick up for questioning,

17:28 You know, they never get to wrap their head in a scarf. So he's literally John he is they have cuffs on no No, he went he voluntarily went in with a scarf on his head. Well, he voluntarily went in so they didn't have they wasn't a perp walk They made they made it look like it. But what did he do John banned from the Internet? Bank fraud online banking fraud That's what they say. So he's that good that he can hack a bank? Or was he just typing in somebody else's password? John, I'm sorry I played the clip now. I'm only playing it just to point out that this has nothing to do with what happened. Yeah, well I'm just saying that I'm not getting any reporting from the media. No! I have to go dig this up myself? I don't have time for this guy. Well, listen to spokesholder Jay Carney because I think he is actually the one responsible for coming up with this lame-ass excuse.

CHAPTER 07 / 49 Discussion

Jay Carney and Susan Rice, Video Excuse Theory

White House Press Secretary Jay Carney and UN Ambassador Susan Rice propagate the narrative that the Benghazi attack was a direct response to a reprehensible film rather than a failure of U.S. policy. A theory is proposed that the film was used as a convenient cover for a targeted assassination or kidnapping attempt that went wrong.

jay carney· susan rice· benghazi· white house· mitt romney

18:23 because it's exactly it's not like someone went in and killed the ambassador and used this as an excuse no it's the other way around the ambassador was killed and then someone had to come up with an excuse to cover up what really happened I believe spokeshole Carney is the one who came up with this incredibly stupid flimsy cover this is a fairly volatile situation and it is in response not to United States policy not to obviously the administration, not to the American people. It is in response to a video, a film that we have judged to be reprehensible and disgusting. That in no way justifies any violent reaction to it. But this is not a case of protests directed at the United States.

19:16 And this one, this is the line. Susan... Okay, so let me, I'm gonna stop you because I'm not sure where you're going, but let me make an, let me throw one thing out there and tell me what you, if you think I'm catching on. So these guys were, the master was assassinated for some reason or other. We're gonna agree on that. We don't, you may or may not know the reason. You say McCain might have let it slip. And then they drop this bull crap excuse about this film and I think that the way to go is if we could just put, if somebody out there, we could put together a timeline. It's like the guy's killed, the film is brought to light now. They push the film into the Middle East and all hell breaks loose because one guy sees it and says, oh this was an insult to the prophet.

20:01 And the next thing you know, now we're having the rights after the fact, which would have never happened in other words, we would not have had these rights if it wasn't for Carney and this bogus excuse which says to me either he's an idiot, actually it says three things. One, he's an idiot. Two, this was done on purpose to cause problems or three, he's an idiot and it was done on purpose. Okay, shall I give you the timeline? Because I have the timeline. Okay, hit it. So the attack took place and then the embassy Right on their website said this is because of this film and that is what Mitt Romney then Responded to without him knowing because Romney actually blew the play because this was being handed to him I'll get to that in one second Romney blew it by smirking and you know because he was completely in on it He didn't know that the ambassador was killed. I don't think the killing part was supposed to happen Here's here's what went down and we've come we almost had this a couple of times and

CHAPTER 08 / 49 Discussion

Benjamin Netanyahu and Mitt Romney, Israeli Election Interference

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's overt support for Mitt Romney is characterized as unprecedented interference in a U.S. election. The discussion explores the possibility that the Benghazi attack was orchestrated by foreign intelligence services to embarrass the Obama administration and create an "October Surprise" to benefit the Romney campaign.

benjamin netanyahu· mitt romney· brent scowcroft· mossad· saudi arabia

21:03 What has the, in fact on the last episode I read you the quote from the insider, from the Ulsterman insider about what Obama said to Netanyahu. He said screw you, we're not gonna attack Iran, we're not gonna even come out and really do anything, we're not gonna put any red lines. Hillary Clinton said no red lines, we're not gonna do any of that. And this made Netanyahu really, really angry. Right? So here is what happened. Net and this is I'm I'm really when I look at the players in this and I'm gonna tell you that I'm gonna tell you who's Interrupted after you give me the net. Yeah, who thinks I have something to okay, so So there are a couple of extra players you have to be aware of first of all Brent Scowcroft does this name ring a bell for you in might because he's a he's back from the the Bush days Bush Kissinger actually

21:58 Brent Scowcroft is one of the advisors to the Romney campaign. He was a big intelligence guy. He was with the Kissinger security advisor under Nixon. He also happens to be a senior member of the Church of Latter-day Saints, so he's a Mormon. Now, his buddy is Mike Leavitt. And Leavitt is, he's in charge of the transition team should if when Romney wins. And he also is a big Mormon. And these are all like Bush era neocons who are totally in bed with the Saudis and with the Israelis. And I think what happened here is Netanyahu got so angry that he said, you know what?

22:51 I'm going to show you what we can do. And he had the Saudis or whoever he called out the attack, Mossad, whoever it was, attack on the embassy to put Obama in his place and not just put him in his place, but to disrupt his entire, you know, basically an October surprise. It was supposed to, I think we were right. It was probably supposed to be a kidnapping instead of, uh, so the guy getting killed and his whole push has been for uh... for romney they've been friends since they were both at the boston uh... consulting group in fact here's a this is unprecedented the way he has endorsed mit romney this is from a morning joe and i'll get to mccain who really blows the script wide open with romney

23:37 effectively endorsing Romney in the election in August when Romney came to Israel. You can't find a precedent for that. A foreign leader meeting with an opposition party representative leader in the middle of an election. The Romney campaign went back and looked to try to find precedent for it because it was surprising to them that Netanyahu was willing to go that far. In 1992, and I can't remember whether it was Shamir or Rabin who was the Israeli Prime Minister then, met with Bill Clinton. It was the only rough precedent they could find. But he came to New York and met with Bill Clinton privately in a hotel suite. Not in front of cameras and not in the way that Netanyahu welcomed Romney into his home. So why did Netanyahu do that? I think Netanyahu does in fact, I think he wanted to send a very clear message.

CHAPTER 09 / 49 Discussion

John McCain and Morning Joe, Nuclear Iran Red Lines

Senator John McCain appears on "Morning Joe" to discuss the tension between the U.S. and Israel regarding Iran's nuclear capabilities. The dialogue focuses on Netanyahu's demand for "red lines" and the perceived weakness of the Obama administration's refusal to set specific triggers for military action.

john mccain· joe scarborough· benjamin netanyahu· iran· nuclear weapons

24:25 He wants Mitt Romney to be president. This is where Netanyahu is coming to the UN General Assembly, big fracas, everyone's, oh, the president has no time for him. So they're not going to meet because we know that there's a real tension there. So this is what John McCain starts to bring up in this morning Joe interview. It's unacceptable for them to have a nuclear weapon. And so it's a very tense time between the United States and Israel when we need a

25:04 togetherness more than ever before. More than ever before and that certainly was curious going over to Israel and coming out and actually talking about what you told Israel not to do. So now hear what he's saying and this is Joe mourning Joe Scarborough prompting McCain because McCain can't remember what he's supposed to say. that the guys came back from Israel and they said publicly, we're not going to do anything, which of course is a big slap in the face because you're essentially giving Iran free reign to do whatever people are claiming they're going to do. You told them not to attack privately, you come out standing shoulder to shoulder and at least make the Iranians think that we are

25:47 on one page. If we don't do that, that certainly makes the situation even more dangerous, doesn't it, Senator? It does, and finally, the Israelis, as the Prime Minister keeps saying, they cannot put their future in the hands completely of the United States of America. And there is this difference of opinion, whether it's capability or actual production of a nuclear weapon, and that needs to be resolved. And again, When the Prime Minister of our dearest friend wants to meet the President of the United States, the schedule should be adjusted, I think. Yes. You should jump. That's exactly where you should jump. Okay. Now here comes the part where McCain blows it. So again, this is how I'm seeing the script.

26:30 There's no red line being drawn, both Obama and Clinton, Hillary Clinton are saying, whatever, we don't care about you, we'll talk to you after the election. Netanyahu's like, oh yeah, watch this. And just as a little side note, he has it happen on 9-11, which is a big poke in the eye. You know, if you're a 9-11 truther, you might understand that. He calls it the Saudis may do it, maybe the Mossad does it. It goes a little bit wrong, unfortunately for the ambassador. The guy gets killed and then Romney is supposed to come out and immediately say, hey, you know, this is this is typical your foreign policy, your Arab Spring didn't work. You know, you can just a setback. No change from four years ago.

CHAPTER 10 / 49 Discussion

John McCain Strategy Slip, Scripted Tragedy Gaffe

During a televised interview, Senator John McCain repeatedly stumbles over the word "tragedy," calling the Benghazi events a "strategy" before correcting himself. This slip is interpreted as evidence that the political response to the attack was a pre-planned script that Mitt Romney failed to execute properly by jumping the gun on his public statements.

john mccain· joe scarborough· benghazi· mitt romney· gaffe

27:15 Unfortunately, they come up with, you know, so Carney or someone says, oh, we've got to cover this up. Let's say it's about the film. Romney then flubs. He stumbles first by smirking, which the media picks up on because he's an idiot. He can't even follow the simple script and he doesn't know the guy's dead. And so he looks like an a-hole. And that of course has set him back big time. And this is where McCain is in this interview, if you listen very carefully, actually says he flubbed the script. Much more forceful to do things that you refuse to do. I suspect the same thing's happening to Mitt Romney right now in ways that only you could understand. I do understand you're not going to be critical of the Republican nominee this morning for what he did, but is it safe to say that if John McCain were in that same situation, he may have waited a week

28:09 See, now Scarborough knows what's going on and if he didn't know from other sources it's probably Brzezinski's daughter who's sitting right next to him who knows the entire script. He's saying, hey this was handed to Romney on a silver platter. How could he screw it up McCain? You wouldn't have screwed it up would you? bringing this tragedy tragedy into the... Oh strategy he said strategies. He's gonna play that again and by the way yeah this is beautiful. He is very deliberate with this particular Because this is a scripted too, but this is funny he would say this. I want to hear that again. Because he wants to say tragedy, but he stumbles and says this strategy. And then this says some Kane off on the wrong foot too. Listen. That same situation, he may have waited a week or so before

29:00 bringing this tragedy tragedy into the middle before bringing this strategy tragedy strategy okay now strategy strategy strategy strategy divide okay now McCain is all flustered of a political campaign I think what happened Joe as I understand it was the statement was made before the tragedy in in Benghazi. And it was a weak statement. The embassy retracted it and changed it. But obviously the sequence of events focuses our attention on the tragic loss of four Americans. And obviously it did not play out as clearly as they had planned.

29:47 Played out. Holy crap. That's a great catch. I'm surprised you even watched that show. Are you kidding me? I've been watching everything all freaking week and a lot. I like the fact that, I like the idea that Brzezinski's daughter's in there, so she's obviously, somebody's clued in and he says strategy and he says play it out. Yeah, it sounds like the whole thing, which we, by the way, I don't think we were wrong. We had the thing kind of figured out just based on the sequence without all these tips. So I don't think we're wrong. I do

CHAPTER 11 / 49 Discussion

Hillary Clinton Damage Control, Middle East Leadership Vacuum

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Ambassador Susan Rice engage in extensive damage control following the Benghazi attack and Mitt Romney's criticized press conference. Critics argue that the unraveling situations in Syria, Iraq, and Afghanistan demonstrate a fundamental lack of American leadership in the Middle East.

hillary clinton· mitt romney· susan rice· syria· afghanistan

30:23 We're not fully aware of this phony baloney strategy. The strategy. The strategy. And the follow-up strategy because the first strategy fell apart, which is shocking to everybody, and then the second strategy... So listen... They still explain it and it actually... It actually makes it even more of an explanation of Hillary's being disdain, her anger, yes. She's really angry because these idiots, they screwed up everything, they screwed up everything. These idiots are trying to get Obama out and that part's fine. She may have been in on the deal because she wants Obama out. And she's angry that Romney screwed it up and this is what McCain

31:08 that McCain is saying, well, hold on a second, you know, I mean, come on, you know, he didn't know what was going to happen and the events, you know, we didn't know that the guy killed was supposed to be a kidnapping. He doesn't say that. And, you know, so Romney, I mean, you got to give the guy a break. He was just doing the best he could because he wasn't playing out the way the whole plan was planned to play out as planned. that's what the guy is saying. You give him a script, you tell him what's going to happen, he expected it to happen, and he jumps the gun and goes right into the script, he doesn't know to wait a week. Exactly. Because he's ready to go, he's giving the bell rings, you're out there throwing your punches. Let's just hear that bit again. Romney should be steamed about this. He should because I don't think anyone will know when someone is supposed to be killed. We should have had

31:53 Videos of guys holding you know knives to their throats and that kind of stuff That's what we should have had because it is the exact replay of the Carter script This is why everyone keeps referring to it. It is and it's the same guys John. It's Brent Scowcroft It's it's the same guys. They're like yeah, I know I know I'm old now, but I got an idea. You know what worked really well We got rid of that Carter Let's kidnap somebody in an embassy. It's the same script now. Just I gotta listen to McCain say it again the embassy retracted it and changed it, but obviously the sequence of events focuses our attention on the tragic loss of four Americans and obviously it did not play out as

32:44 Clearly they had... See now he's stumbling and Joe jumps in to save him because he's gonna say play out as scripted as we're gonna say. Exactly. The guy's like he's lost it right there and Scarborough has to stop him. Jumps in and saves him. Here we go. They had... Mitt Romney then doubled down of course yesterday morning when he did know all of the facts and Even after Secretary Clinton made I thought a very good statement you agree you agree with me there now another now They're actually discussing like hey Hillary did her job you agree with me right? I mean Hillary actually tried to save everything after Romney blew it I was watching this just with different eyes You know no agenda eyes, and and I'm like oh my god John every they're out there publicly on television They all know exactly what happened

33:35 And unless you have a little bit of this clue that we're giving you here, we're lifting up the curtain a little bit, you can interpret this so differently. But once you have your eyes open, you're like, wow, these guys are just brazenly, like they're just having a drink together. You're like, yeah man, you know, well, you know Hillary, you gotta admit Johnny boy, Hillary tried, right? She tried to save it from Romney's big boob. Um, would, in this case, would it be better to just wait a few days before having that kind of press conference? I mean seriously here, you know, should we, is Scarborough, does he want a job writing the scripts or something?

34:14 It sounds like he's definitely on the team. Oh, yeah. It's in the heat of the battle you get all kinds of advice and you get all kinds of second-guessing. I'm not prepared to do that, but I would like to point out, and I believe I watched you yesterday, quite often in your panel of people, the fact is the United States in the Middle East is weak. We are seen as withdrawing and we are paying a price for that weakness, whether it be unraveling in Iraq the tragedy in Syria, the tensions with Israel, the Afghan situation unraveling. There is a lack of leadership there and that's what I would be talking about and I hope that Mitt Romney will be looking at the big picture. So that of course is exactly where they have to go now, is say there's a lack of leadership,

35:04 Four years ago, it was just as horrible and now you know just because of one stupid film and the whole Arab Spring has been one big scam and that was the entire plan but you know they're gonna have to work very very hard and now you see Susan Rice on every single talk show this morning, every single one out there propagating the whole movie theme etc. I mean they're bringing out all the heavy hitters. This is real, this is fascinating fascinating to watch This is a can try trying to control. This is a damage control It's all damage control now And so of course there's a Romney blew it you got the guy's dead that shouldn't been dead and they're heaven forbid there Does somebody figure this out and yeah, you know? Just anybody so who is another heavy heavy hitter who wants to be in on the game a huge heavy hitter is John Bolton

CHAPTER 12 / 49 Discussion

John Bolton, Obama Foreign Policy Critique

Former UN Ambassador John Bolton criticizes the Obama administration for abandoning loyal allies like Hosni Mubarak and allowing the Muslim Brotherhood to take power in Egypt. Bolton defends Mitt Romney's response to the embassy attacks, arguing that the administration's focus on the film ignores the underlying radical ideology of the rioters.

john bolton· hosni mubarak· muslim brotherhood· egypt· mitt romney

35:59 Now Bolton, he's already being rumored that he was the former US ambassador to the United Nations. They're already talking about if Romney gets in, this guy would be the new Clippity Clop. He would be the Secretary of State. And so he's now doing the rounds and he's talking about what happened here. And he is laying it on so thick. And this one cracked me up. Check this out. Well, I think what we saw there was the risk to Mubarak. uh... and instead of supporting a loyal ally who had upheld the camp david accord so he now he's talking about what the mean that's been going around you've heard it over and over again which is all you know what he was our body gap and and and so what bolton is doing is he's attacking the obama administration's policies thing you know you screwed up you kicked out the wrong guy you never should have gone with this guy but the way he does it is also i think what we saw there was the

36:59 the risk to Mubarak and instead of supporting a loyal ally who had upheld the Camp David Accord after vacillating three or four times in the course of a month, we threw Mubarak over the edge. And he had said for years, if I go, the Muslim Brotherhood's taking over. Oh no, said the Obama administration. Oh no, said many people in America. The Google guy is going to emerge in Egypt. He's going to be the new leader. People who tweet will be the new leaders. Do you see them anywhere today? They are off the stage. And I'll bet you they believe that too. You know the funny thing is Bolton has been working on this pitch. It's a great pitch. For a couple of years. We've had clips of him before. He's been working. You know Bolton, if you remember when he first got in as the ambassador of the United Nations, his staff revolted. He was saying this guy's the biggest a-hole we've ever worked for. Remember this? Yeah of course I do. He was considered the worst guy in the world and they've been grooming him.

37:55 whoever they are, have been grooming him and grooming him so he's become a really good speaker, he's really tight and concise and he's got these zingers like the one you just heard. And he's got them at the ready. He is really a talented He's a senior. Oh yeah, and here's him on Romney just to wrap it up, this bit of Bolton. The guy is good. Well I think he demonstrated it and he was jumped on by the White House and the media. The first thing that you do is defend our system of government. You don't apologize for some crank who makes an offensive film. That's just not the way you defend democracy.

38:32 By dignifying that film as if it were the real cause of this, you simply feed the beliefs of those who think we're a corrupt and declining society. It's not the function of the American government to comment on every exercise of free speech by American citizens. They do that in countries where the armies wear jackboots. They don't do it in this country. perpetuating the myth that it was the film that was the problem rather than the radical ideology of the rioters is the first mistake that the administration has made. Romney tried to correct it and the media go wild. I love it. I love it. Yeah, well Romney blew it but both

39:10 and uh... the the uh... yet you're right here amateur hours so they got to bring in the pros oh yeah oh yeah who've been trained for this and they come in there and they've been paid all the shows and they get booked on everything all at once because they get the right p r agency in a book bubble bubble they start to pummel the audience in the priest in this thing blows over except it's not quite blowing over in the middle east which is uh... not problematic army of obviously everyone's now out there and

CHAPTER 13 / 49 Discussion

Twitter Diplomacy, Egypt Aid and Rand Paul

The U.S. Embassy in Cairo and the Muslim Brotherhood engage in a public dispute on Twitter, highlighting a shift in diplomatic communication. Senator Rand Paul suggests cutting off foreign aid to countries that cannot protect U.S. diplomats, while others argue that aid primarily benefits Western corporations building infrastructure in the region.

muslim brotherhood· cairo· twitter· rand paul· foreign aid

39:51 By the way, have you seen the professional, the professionality of the signs people are carrying around? Yeah, not quite on the same level as these phony baloney protests in China, which are outrageously professional. And the t-shirts and everything they have in China, it's just like, come on. Which is another topic, we'll go to it later. I just want to wrap it up with a few more things, then we can get out of here and thank our producers for stuff. The only, there was just one, well here's a quick little funny clip. about the level of idiocy in our foreign policy.

40:47 Tomorrow the Muslim Brotherhood is calling for people to protest peacefully and not outside the US Embassy. But Diane, we know these demonstrations are unpredictable. So this is ABC News reporting on a Twitter war between the Muslim Brotherhood and the US Embassy in Cairo. They are flaming each other on Twitter. This is the level that we have sunken to with our news reporting. It's fantastic. So of course the obvious way that you, if you know, if you got a problem with these countries, then you know, the way diplomacy is supposed to work, and I think it always works with either money or with muscle, you say, hey, Egypt, you know, shut up. Well, we're not going to give you the, you know, the $10 billion or whatever it is we give you.

41:36 So this of course is all part of the plan. And Rand Paul is right in there. He's on board. They've got him and he's on board with the message. So he's there in the Senate saying, hey, if these people, these people, he said, these people, if they can't be civilized, then we should stop giving them money. John Kerry Who is not, you notice he's not being invited anywhere. I'm not quite sure why, but they don't invite him to come on the show. Because he bores them stiff. Yeah, you're probably right. He's not the kind of guy you want to have a drink with. So he, of course, has to protect the interest because the billion dollars, it's not like they give a billion dollars to Morsi and say, here's a check. No, no, no. There's a billion dollars that goes to other American companies to go build stuff in Egypt.

42:21 Okay, like data centers and all this there's a lot going on in Egypt really a lot of investment from the US under the banner of oh You know it's aid for you guys bullcrap It's going to us and Western companies to build stuff so Kerry has to defend that and he's such a douche when he does it the Libyan government didn't do this the Egyptian government didn't do this and What's happening there? The Yemen government sent its people to protect our people. And we helped negotiate the transfer of authority to this new government in Yemen. Now are they having difficulties? Yeah. Now listen to this, John. Go back and look at the United States of America in the 1700s. We have some difficulties. You know, we have to write slavery out of the Constitution. What? Did we have to write slavery out? Was it in the Constitution? You can have slaves?

CHAPTER 14 / 49 Discussion

John Kerry, Slavery in the Constitution and Tahrir Square

Senator John Kerry defends the slow progress of Middle Eastern democracies by comparing them to the early United States, noting that the U.S. had to "write slavery out of the Constitution." The segment verifies the presence of slavery-related clauses in the original Constitution and mocks Kerry's assertion that the Egyptian revolution was driven by "Googling."

john kerry· constitution· slavery· tahrir square· google

41:36 So this of course is all part of the plan. And Rand Paul is right in there. He's on board. They've got him and he's on board with the message. So he's there in the Senate saying, hey, if these people, these people, he said, these people, if they can't be civilized, then we should stop giving them money. John Kerry Who is not, you notice he's not being invited anywhere. I'm not quite sure why, but they don't invite him to come on the show. Because he bores them stiff. Yeah, you're probably right. He's not the kind of guy you want to have a drink with. So he, of course, has to protect the interest because the billion dollars, it's not like they give a billion dollars to Morsi and say, here's a check. No, no, no. There's a billion dollars that goes to other American companies to go build stuff in Egypt.

42:21 Okay, like data centers and all this there's a lot going on in Egypt really a lot of investment from the US under the banner of oh You know it's aid for you guys bullcrap It's going to us and Western companies to build stuff so Kerry has to defend that and he's such a douche when he does it the Libyan government didn't do this the Egyptian government didn't do this and What's happening there? The Yemen government sent its people to protect our people. And we helped negotiate the transfer of authority to this new government in Yemen. Now are they having difficulties? Yeah. Now listen to this, John. Go back and look at the United States of America in the 1700s. We have some difficulties. You know, we have to write slavery out of the Constitution. What? Did we have to write slavery out? Was it in the Constitution? You can have slaves?

43:19 As far as I know. Wait a minute, the Constitution at one point said you can have slaves. No, they had the, it was the voting thing where you had, where a slave, a free man was worth so much vote and the slave was worth less. There was a bunch of stuff in the Constitution. It wasn't like it was precluded. So we had to write slavery out of the Constitution? I don't know the Constitution right now, but I'm afraid I... Well, actually, let me try going to my web stuff with Chrome and see if that prevents my going to high pitch. Oh, you're rolling on Chrome today instead of Firefox. Very good.

43:56 Well, I haven't... Well, we'll wait. We'll see what happens. No, you want me to go to the Constitution? Yeah, yeah. Don't you have your little book there? No, I'm gonna Google. I just don't understand. I cannot... I don't know what he's talking about, let's put it that way. Yeah, I mean, he's saying we had to write slavery out of the Constitution. I don't article well, okay. Here it is. I got a good little thing here Everyone's saying the three three-fifths rule for a constitutional topics blah blah blah original Slavery is a prominent part of the United States history la la la

44:35 origins of slavery, I mean the Constitution by time of the Constitutional Convention slavery in the United States was a grim reality, the census, okay the Articles of Confederations there's not a mention of slavery, the states were represented in Congress by state blah blah blah, great movement, Declaration of Independence doesn't say anything, I just came up in the search but it's not giving me what I'm looking for. But let's just continue with this with the thing. Difficulties? You know, we have to write slavery out of the Constitution and a bunch of other things. And it takes time. The arrogance of suggesting that we're going to judge whether or not they're civilized today or tomorrow because a mob or a bunch of militants take matters into their own hands would just be the most, you know, sort of self-defeating, narrow effort you could possibly conceive of.

45:37 I don't know, I'd ask the senator. Has he ever been to Pakistan? Has the senator ever been to Egypt? Hey, bitch! I asked the senator. Has the senator ever been to Egypt? The senator doesn't want to answer. I presume that means he hasn't been. He ought to go to Egypt and see what those people are struggling to do. That was a revolution in Tahrir Square. Now, okay, this was a revolution, John. What kind of revolution was it in Tahrir Square? And it wasn't an Islamic revolution. It was a generational revolution. A bunch of young people with smartphones tweeting each other and Googling. God, this guy's an idiot. Googling the revolution! Okay, the slavery is in the Constitution in a few key places. The first is the enumeration clause where representatives are apportioned. Each state is given a number of representatives based on its population. That population includes slaves or other persons, counted as three-fifths of a whole person.

46:32 The compromise was fought by the North. In Article 1, Section 9, Congress is limited expressly from prohibiting the importation of slaves before 1808. Yeah, so there was enough in there that had to be written out which were the men who had to be freed slaves. Okay, well good. Please not wrong about that. Okay, now we learned something. There we go. I don't know how much we learned. I learned that there's some stuff in there. But it doesn't matter because if you want to start a revolution, you just have to Google. That's what I really learned. Not Facebook, Google. Just Google. Well he brought that up, I do have a clip that kind of fits into this which is the rundown of riots in Cairo with added tidbit. Oh another tidbit! He's got another tidbit, a bit of a tid. A man in Tunisia was stormed by demonstrators and one person was killed during protests in Lebanon.

CHAPTER 15 / 49 Discussion

Jeremy Bowen, Salafists and German Embassy Attacks

BBC editor Jeremy Bowen reports on the spread of protests to Sudan, where the German and British embassies were targeted. The rise of the Salafist movement is identified as a significant factor in the regional instability, posing a potential threat to moderate Islamist governments and creating security concerns for Vladimir Putin in Central Asia.

jeremy bowen· bbc· sudan· salafists· vladimir putin

47:23 There's concern that extremists hostile to the West may be exploiting the situation. From Cairo, the BBC's Middle East editor Jeremy Bowen reports. On the banks of the Nile, more tear gas and more stones. Protests that started here in Cairo on Tuesday night are still going on and have spread across the Arab Middle East and beyond. The police fired repeated volleys of tear gas to keep them away from the US Embassy, the target here and in other countries because the anti-Muslim film they hate so much was produced in America. The anger about the film is still a driving force. Here in Cairo, other grievances, including hatred of the police, have been grafted onto it.

48:19 This is about a lot more now than the film and dislike of America. It's got tied up with the fractures in Egyptian society since the revolution. This has been an unhappy place and those splits are getting wider. It's an unhappy place. So the guy said mentions the police. Yeah, this is what happened in London of course under reported though all those riots that burnt down that block in London. They hate the cops. It was the cops. They hate the cops. They hate the cops here too. This anti-police thing which is massive around the world is really under reported and I think has a lot to do with what's going on. Yeah. It's good to say the least. In fact, another clip I have which kind of is weird, which makes you really wonder about the movie is the one German embassy attacked.

49:05 And then they re- kind of, the news media, they kind of re-structure and re- Yeah, because they've got to make the film fit the German embassy attack, right? Am I right? Yeah, so here's a clip, yeah. In Khartoum, Sudan's capital, protesters broke into the German embassy. America's Western allies are being blamed too. In every Muslim country, the violence as well as the film appalls plenty of people. But what's happening is also tapping into assumptions that the West is against them. Later, they attacked the British embassy and moved on to the US compound. And the storm caused by the film ended another life. In Tunis, at least two demonstrators were killed as the US embassy was stormed. Later, the American school was burnt down. Across the region, local factors are also feeding the anger.

50:05 In Tunisia this could be exploited by hardliners known as Salafists who are agitating against more moderate political Islamists who won the election after the revolution. Okay, this is very important. The guy brings up the Salafists because this is... you know that a major Salafist... what do you call him? Imam, I think, was murdered in one of the stands just a few days ago. And this is so as a side note to all of this, this is a huge problem for Putin what's taking place now because the he has all of the stands Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, you know, all of these places, huge Salafist Muslim population. And now they're all getting rowdy, which he has to deal with as well.

CHAPTER 16 / 49 Discussion

Sufism and Osama bin Laden, Internal Muslim Struggles

A discussion on the internal theological divisions within the Muslim "Ummah" explores the claim that Osama bin Laden followed Sufi practices. The minimalist lifestyle of the mystics is compared to Steve Jobs, suggesting that policymakers often fail to understand the complex religious nuances driving Middle Eastern conflicts.

sufism· osama bin laden· ummah· sunni· shiite

50:56 So there's so many different angles to this, which, I mean, it's, we are in a unbelievable, it's great for the show. As long as no one is attacking Camp MoFo in Austin, this is great for the show. Well, there's not that many Salafists. Now people should be reminded, and you should look it up, it's S-A-L-A-F-I-S-T. And this is what was, this term has finally come into mainstream media, although, two or three years ago you'd never heard it before and then people would always refer to the Wahhabists. the wahhabis are part of this the larger Salafist movement and the salaf or salafist and the salafists are are the extreme and they're not part of the of the Al-Qaeda or anything else which and and curiously if people really want to do some work on this if you really look into Al-Qaeda and bin Laden you'll find that they were Sufis and

51:56 Which is makes no sense to anybody who has a superficial look at this, but you'll find that that's true It's actually one of our listeners about a year and a half ago told me this and I looked it up. It was all true. Yeah, and And Sufis are also the the mystics that are hated by the Sunnis and the Shiites would but for some reason I this whole thing is crazy and Sufis are also as the mystics are also minimalist in the lot in a lot of ways and that's why Osama's encampment was so minimalist it's like a place Steve Jobs would live. You know, a bed on the floor and that's about it. So this whole thing is really more of a kind of a struggle within the, as the Muslim League called it, the Ummah, which is the massive community of all Muslims. And we're just, you know, I don't know if we're playing it or we're trying to. I don't think we really even understand. I think the policymakers don't really even understand this stuff.

CHAPTER 17 / 49 Discussion

Antwerp Riots, Belgian News Framing

Belgian international news reports on unauthorized demonstrations in Antwerp sparked by the "Innocence of Muslims" video. The reporting style is critiqued for its Orwellian tone, contrasting scenes of rioting and arrests with a concluding message that "calm has returned" and residents are enjoying barbecues.

antwerp· belgium· riots· innocence of muslims· media framing

52:50 They don't care. I don't I don't I think it's complicated material material. I don't think the Obama administration I don't I don't think they really understand it. I don't think the Romney people give a crap That's you know if Romney gets in it's just like having Bush in it's gonna be the same mofos The whole thing is f'd and what I find interesting is that report did you hear how that it was almost like a World War two? Newsreel did you hear that did you hear how yeah and and listen to this and this is from I have from in Antwerp, Antwerp has a huge, huge Muslim population and they got all rowdy and we're starting to riot. But listen to how this is reported from the Belgian international news department.

53:36 An unauthorized demonstration in protest against... I love unauthorized, unauthorized... The authorized demonstration must cease immediately. This is completely out of 1984, but just listen to it. The anti-Islam video, Innocence of Muslims, resulted in rioting in the Borgerhout district of Antwerp on Saturday night. A folkloristic pageant was planned, but troublemakers encouraged people to turn out to protest by texting. These are the scenes of the Turhautsban. At first the demonstrators shouted slogans, but when one youth was arrested the atmosphere turned nasty and the police had to intervene. Troublemakers were isolated and detained. In all, over a hundred people were arrested. Now this shows some footage of people getting clobbered, and then, all of a sudden,

54:27 By nightfall, calm had returned to the streets of Antwerp. Local residents enjoy the fine summer weather and have a barbie. Carry on citizens, all is well. We have packed the ugly Muslims away. Where did you get that? From the Belgian news. Hey citizen. Hey citizen. It's okay. Carry on, carry on. Everything's okay. It's all fine. Wow, dude. I'm kind of just play one more on a roll. Yeah, I got one more I got I got Romney who's he's such an idiot. This guy is such a douche

CHAPTER 18 / 49 Discussion

Mitt Romney, Ahmadinejad Genocide Indictment

In an interview with George Stephanopoulos, Mitt Romney calls for Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to be indicted under the Genocide Convention for "incitation to genocide." The feasibility of such an indictment is questioned, along with Romney's attempt to align his "red line" on Iran with that of Benjamin Netanyahu.

mitt romney· george stephanopoulos· mahmoud ahmadinejad· genocide convention· iran

55:06 So, agent of the Democrats, George Stephanopoulos, is grilling Romney. All he's trying to do is checkmate him, say, well you're not better than Obama. That's George's job, is to say, well your policy is the same as the president's policy, only you're a rich a-hole. And Obama is also, well not quite as rich a-hole. But then Romney says something so funny about Ahmadinejad, because of course he needs to bring this back to Iran to make his uber-lord Bibi Netanyahu happy. A policy also, Prime Minister Netanyahu of Israel has suggested he wants more clear red lines from the United States. What is your red line with Iran?

55:49 Well, my red line is Iran may not have a nuclear weapon. Iran as a nuclear nation is unacceptable to the United States of America. President Obama said exactly the same thing. He said it is unacceptable for Iran to have a nuclear weapon. So your red line is the same as his. Yeah, and I laid out what I would do to keep Iran from reaching that red line. I said that crippling sanctions needed to be put in place immediately. That combined with standing up with Iranian dissidents. The president was silent. When dissidents took to the streets in Tehran, the president was silent. In addition, I think Ahmadinejad should have been indicted under the Genocide Convention for incitation to genocide. Hey man, incitation to genocide. He should be indicted under the Genocide Convention for incitation of the genocides. Oh man. What an idiot!

56:39 So the Genocide, maybe he means Geneva Convention, but the Genocide, there is such a... The Genocide Convention. Yeah, we're having a Genocide Convention over here at the Albatross Pub. So there is such a thing as a, there is a convention against genocide. It's not generally known as the Genocide Convention. And Iran is certainly not a part of it. But then to say for incitation, what does that even mean? You know, he's encouraging people to commit genocide. Let me just hear that one more time. To genocide. But your redline... Oh crap, hold on, hold on. The incitation, the incitation everybody. To genocide. But your redline... Ah crap, screw it. Anyway, the guy's an a-hole. So then there's the redline, the redline, the redline. Now, just before the show started this morning, Benjamin Netanyahu was on Meet the Press with our friend Bob Gregory.

CHAPTER 19 / 49 Discussion

Benjamin Netanyahu, Football Metaphors and Iranian Zealotry

Benjamin Netanyahu appears on "Meet the Press" using American football metaphors to describe Iran's progress toward a nuclear weapon, placing them in the "red zone." He characterizes the Iranian leadership as fanatics who put zealotry above survival, a claim dismissed as "bullcrap" given the wealthy and comfortable lifestyles of the ruling mullahs.

benjamin netanyahu· meet the press· iran· suicide bombers· mullahs

57:32 Is his name Bob? It's Chuck. Chuck. Chuck Gregory. And of course the question is, where's the red line? As a Prime Minister of Israel, has Iran crossed your red line? Well the way I would say it David is they're in the red zone. Ooh, he's ratcheting it up by more. Oh, listen to him. You know, they're in the last 20 yards. 20 yards John, you nailed it. You can't let them cross that goal line. You can't let them score a touchdown. What does he know about football? Unbelievable! So this is what it's come to. Yes, it would be seven points.

58:19 Of the world really of the world the whole yeah, seven did nothing yeah, no, that's only if you get the conversion That's not true You still have to kick the field goal so then he goes on field goal field goals three It's not the same as a conversion. Oh, it's all right conversion is one correct right you get six points So he's he's saying it'll be six zero if they have a nuclear bomb not seven So then he has to go one step further than his red line and he actually will say now that the people storming our embassies were Iranian terrorists. He doesn't say it like that but he kind of says it.

59:00 I think Iran is very different. They put their zealotry above their survival. They have suicide bombers all over the place. I wouldn't rely on their rationality. Since the advent of nuclear weapons, you've had countries that had access to nuclear weapons who always made a careful calculation of cost and benefit. But Iran is guided by a leadership with An unbelievable fanaticism. It's the same fanaticism that you see storming your embassies today. You want these fanatics to have nuclear weapons? This is bullcrap. Yeah, of course it's bullcrap. First of all, a couple of things. One, where are all these Iranian suicide bombers? None of them! Zero! Zero! Zero! They're roaming all over the place. Okay, that's one. Two, the

59:44 Everyone knows that the mullahs are living in these huge compounds. They're loaded. They're essentially raping the country, stealing all the money, the tax money, and they're living a good life. In the end, they get to boss everybody around. They're not interested in getting themselves blown to smithereens so they can meet with some virgins in their heaven. It's not the case. It's bull crap. But then they're leading a good life, and they're not willing to give it up for some whatever he said. It's no crap. So may I ask you a question then? No wait, wait, wait, wait. Let me play the last little BB clip here. Who now is rubbing it in Obama's face with this. Can the United States and its allies specifically do to contain it?

1:00:29 Well, look, I think people focus on the spark. The spark of reprehensible and irresponsible film is a spark, but it doesn't explain anything. I mean, it doesn't explain 9-11, it doesn't explain the decades of animosity and the grievances that go back centuries. So he basically just said 9-11, but you know what? He didn't say 9-11 2001. He could have just as easily meant 9-11 the one we just had where I sent my agents in to go kill your guy. This is at a huge, huge, huge high level, high stakes game. And the only question I really have is, and let us just presume that this, you know, Iran wants to wipe Israel off the face of the map. If we just take away those words for a minute, because I'm still not convinced that they have actually been said or they mean it, what is the problem?

1:01:27 that Israel has with Iran, John. Do you see what their problem is? Is it literally just because they keep threatening them, which is a valid reason, but what is the problem? There's got to be something else to it. There must be. It can't just be the religious angle. It's hard for me to buy it. Well, this is what we do on our show. So we have a couple of years to figure it out and we'd be the only ones who ever did. I'm sure if we watch enough of these intelligence briefings, which we try to do, I'm sure that we will find it in there because I'm sure it's been discussed. Anyway, the red line meme is everywhere now. Yeah. Do you know where else the red line has been crossed?

CHAPTER 20 / 49 Discussion

Kate Middleton Topless Photos, Royal Privacy Red Line

The publication of topless photos of Kate Middleton in a French magazine creates a royal scandal, with the Palace declaring a "red line" has been crossed. The incident is compared to the paparazzi harassment of Princess Diana, sparking a debate over the expectation of privacy for public figures in the age of ubiquitous cameras.

kate middleton· prince william· paparazzi· privacy· france

1:02:10 A big red line on the X Factor TV show? Let's get reaction with the PR consultant Max Clifford who joins us on the line from Marbella in Spain. Thank you very much for joining us on BBC World Mr Clifford. First, the Palace is talking about a red line being crossed. Would you see it that way? This is about the William and Kate! The topless pictures. Luckily we have taken the red line of Israel and we've now moved it to Kate's boobies. This is great! And before we get to that, which I'd like to do because we do have, I have four clips. Yes, let's thank some producers. And by the way, have you all seen the pictures? Of course we've seen the pictures. Yes, and I'll say, let me just say this in advance as a tease for the next segment, which is

1:02:55 I think if there was complaining about anything, she really has a terrific butt. She does. Her top is whatever it is. I mean, you go to Saint-Tropez and everybody walks around like that. What's the big deal? The Brits are all upset. We do have a few executive producers to thank for today's show, starting with an instant knight, Robert Brock. Hey now! In Anchorage, Alaska, who follows the new pattern of instant knights not sending us any notes. We looked everywhere. Wow, this is... I'm not complaining about it, but this is... First of all, it's amazing to get this level of support. Yeah, it's a 12-12-12. It's an instant knight 12-12-12.

CHAPTER 21 / 49 Discussion

Executive Producer Donations, Autism and Vaccine Indemnification

Executive producers are thanked for their financial support, including a significant donation from David Goes in honor of his autistic son, Noah. The accompanying letter criticizes the Department of Health and Human Services and the legal indemnification of pharmaceutical companies regarding vaccine injuries.

robert brock· david goes· autism· vaccines· hhs

1:03:39 So he's going to be knighted today. But then without a note is just wow. I mean that's just love. It's just like here I love you. I don't need to say anything else. Love you. Mean it. Carry on. Keep calm, carry on. And then in New Lenox, Illinois, David Goes came in with 9-1307 and he sent a kind of more than made up for Rock's lack of a note. Let me just read some of it. It's actually too long to read the whole thing, but he has a son who has autism who he's giving the knighthood to and he has a number of interesting things to say about it. Maybe we should just run this letter

1:04:18 in its entirety. As a whole? As a note. Just post it and then run it as a link. I think that's a good idea. I will do that. I'll just read a few pieces. He won the donate to the greatest podcast in the universe. The show's amazing. He's been listening every minute since his friend John Bell introduced him to the show earlier this summer. And he also promotes the show. He has, like I said, a son with autism and he finds that the, he has this little interesting tidbit. The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services alone approves both FDA and promotes CDC and legislates

1:04:57 vaccines. If your child is hurt or killed by vaccines, pharmaceutical companies, we talk about this on the show if you just start listening, but we have discussed this to an extreme about a year ago. They're indemnified, you can't sue them. Yeah, even though he mentions that there's been two billion in compensation since 1998. Well, you know, you get the compensation but then you can't talk about it. That's the deal they make with you. So anyway, he has a lot of thoughts on this and we want to recommend checking out the letter. We'll find out what he wants to say. And where is he from? He is from New Lenox, Illinois. And do you think his name is Goes or Goose? Because if I look at it in a Dutch way, it would be Goose.

1:05:41 I think I've seen the name goes you think it would be goes yeah, okay, all right So we'll be knighting his son Noah awesome, and he will be the oh We have to give him a cool title since he's autistic the spinning knight of the Noah general table You don't know that he spins. Oh come on if he's if he's properly autistic he spins I don't think he wants to be called that okay. Well. I'm hey I I thought it would be a lovely extra title. Maybe that you don't find that offensive. Do you I? Ehhh, I think it lacks taste. Okay. He mentions that the tax on every vaccine goes straight to the HHS coffers and they dole it out to their own discretion without a jury of peers through some douchebag called a special master. Do we know anything about this? I don't know anything about this. We have to look into it. Whenever we talk about vaccines, then it's like 8 million emails and we're crazy and Holocaust deniers and it's just endless. Endless.

1:06:44 Anyway, so to his amazing boy my kick-ass mama bear warrior wife LJ and our two other amazing human resources Please give a big-ass shut up slave and to the Julie Gerber ding Kathy Sebelius Tom insole Paul off it Seth Minnick and Anderson Cooper Bill Gates and the rest of the Pharma pawns a hearty douchebag okay first let me do the And then to that entire list. I made it extra loud. Extra loud. Doesn't he need some karma as well? Yeah, give him some karma. Yeah, I'd love to give you some karma. Thank you so much. That's awesome, man. You've got karma. I think he sent this on 913, which was for our previous show, but I think it came in late, right? Is that how the number came up? He came up with a number? Okay. Yeah, El Yoho. Yoho!

CHAPTER 22 / 49 Discussion

Listener Feedback, Value for Value Model and Fifth Anniversary

The show acknowledges various donations and "drunk donations" from listeners while reinforcing the "value for value" funding model. Plans for the upcoming fifth anniversary of the No Agenda podcast are mentioned, along with a lunch meeting with producer Sergei Naftaliyev.

value for value· no agenda· sergei naftaliyev· podcasting· donations

1:07:31 From Woodbridge, Virginia 444 remember the 444 club odds. I'll yo ho soon to be sir yo ho I've had a few too many and I oh I had a few too many and I made a drunk donation from my phone Hope out works your guys deserve it I'm trying to propagate and tell these douchebags that the election is bullcrap. The Rooney Nuts think he's going to win, but I know he's not. It also makes me so mad I can't see through this crap. Anyway, takes for being the best puss in the universe. That's what it says. It says PODXR. Well, something.

1:08:16 Okay, Leonard Smalls in Bronx in the Bronx New York New York City 444 He's Leonard small. Yes started listening to the best caught podcasting universe two months ago And he's already up to 444 and like a flame to a moth haven't missed an episode I usually download the show via iTunes, but for this I'll be listening live from the stream can I have a shit is in karma for my friends and family and a douchebag and Give the douchebag first. Co-worker Ms. Marsh who hit me in the mouth without ever donating, Ms. Marsh. Lastly, I'd like to recommend two documentaries, Yes Men 1 and 2, and the two characters in the movie. In the World Bank, George Bush and FEMA by revealing their true identities to the media. I only mention this because, one, the character is a professor of mine who inspired me to be a critical thinking human resource. The duo's efforts inspired the Guggenheim Foundation to give them money.

1:09:12 Value for value model is sound, but if John's cycle theory is correct you guys are gonna need a plan B Yeah, it's learning how to play the slide whistle and the kazoo same time having a symbol Hey shit, isn't you've got karma right? You've got karma that's definitely our new one our citizen citizen and Sir Keith Edwards in Gilbert, Arizona 20917, it's been a while since I donated. Keep up the great work and send some karma to herself at home. What? And belated birthday wishes to Adam. Okay, send some karma to herself at home, whoever. Is Sir Keith a her?

1:10:01 No, Sir Keith is not on, maybe it's herself, his wife. We're gonna send it, that's for sure, here it comes. You've got karma. And finally, Associate Executive Producer goes to Jeff Long, Creighton, Nebraska. 200 bucks twice a week, I'm thoroughly entertained and informed with the world's news, best news and analysis, which I can't get anywhere else. This is true and it's pathetic, isn't it? Please accept this donation as a token of appreciation for how much I value your podcast. Thank you. Actually, we have one more donation, John. Sir Gene Naftaliyev was in town. Ah! Yes, Sir Gene. And he invited Ms. Mickey and I to lunch.

1:10:46 And so he treated us to a lovely lunch and gave us $200 in cash donation for him to be an associate executive producer on episode 444. And he only had one request. Yes? He wanted me to play this. That's bullcrap, he never requested that. That's exactly what he asked for. Well, Paul Ryan should be donating too. And the reason why he asked for that is because he thinks it's funny how you get all riled up when I play it. I don't get riled up! Okay. That's bullcrap I get riled up. I love it, I love it, I love it. Alright, so thank you very much, Sergi. And he also gave me a lot of information.

1:11:41 which I cannot attribute to him. I'll slip it in over the next hour and a half. What's that? Oh, is it going to be on today? Oh yeah, some of it's already, without you knowing it, some of it's already been out there. This guy is, you know, who knows? Don't ask any questions about Sir Gene. Yeah, well, Sergei is a good guy. He has a pet snake. That'll be it for today's executive producers. I want to thank them all and mention to everyone else to go to Dvorak.org slash NA channel Dvorak.com slash NA noagendashow.com hit the donate button also. NoagendaNation.com has a donate button, a separate kind of a backup donation site.

1:12:22 And you can help us out for show 445 coming up next Thursday. We can use all the help we can get. And it's our, when is it? Isn't our fifth anniversary coming up real soon? It's coming up. Coming up. Coming up. Okay. We appreciate all of the help and all you have to do is go to... And of course we always appreciate you doing the simple thing of propagating our formula. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Yeah everybody, come on, say it now.

CHAPTER 23 / 49 Discussion

Mitt Romney Tax Returns, Mormon Tithing Theory

A theory is presented regarding Mitt Romney's refusal to release his full tax returns, suggesting the records would reveal he failed to pay the full 10% tithe required by the Mormon Church. Such a revelation could potentially undermine the church's financial expectations of its less wealthy members.

mitt romney· tax returns· mormon church· tithing· lds

1:13:02 Hey, uh, before we go into the, uh, the boob scan, the boob gate. Oh, I wasn't going to go there right now, actually. To boob gate? No, I wasn't going to. I was going to do a little follow on to... Well, I wanted to do the follow on to explain what I, what JC came up with is the theory why Romney's not going to give up his taxes or doesn't want to. So can I, can I guess? Because I've been thinking about this. We tease this now. Of course we had the, the, the, the logical ones, which is, oh, it's probably going to be because he has multiple wives. He has 13 dependents he's trying to deduct.

1:13:40 I have thought about this. My belief would be he doesn't want to show his previous tax returns because it will come to light that he has not been a good Mormon and given all of the 10% of his income to tithing for the church. Did I nail it? Did I nail it? Exactly. Yeah, you did. Yeah, and you know why? Because I... That's actually, as soon as he said it, I said, oh... Makes sense, right? Not only that, but it would destroy the Mormon Church. Because all these poor people that give 10% is the tithe in the Mormon Church. And their promise is that, look, we're going to send you on these things, we're going to put you through school, we're going to do all these things for you, but you now owe us 10% of your income forever.

1:14:25 And if the richest of the rich say, you know, 5% is good enough, 3%. If the Catholics only want 3%, why do you want 10%? I believe that in what he showed on his tax returns that he did make public, I think that he didn't even amount to 10% on those. I think. I think. I remember reading something like that. Well, it never came to light. I haven't seen any publicity about this. But it would be very embarrassing. So you know that the... Although I think that 13 wives is funnier. Yeah, it's much better. Well, not 13 wives, just 13 dependents. That'd be good, too. So you saw the brief from the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security right after the Muslim Arab Spring, the Day of Rage uprising, the Arabian Fall of Anger, whatever they're calling it. They haven't come up with a snappy name yet. They'll come up with something. So you saw the warning, right? Warning, warning, warning. Oh yes, warning, warning, warning, warning.

CHAPTER 24 / 49 Discussion

University of Texas Bomb Threat, Campus Evacuations

The University of Texas at Austin was evacuated following a telephoned bomb threat from a man claiming to have placed explosives across the campus. The event is noted for occurring shortly after several emergency drills and highlights the presence of a nuclear reactor on the university grounds.

university of texas· austin· bomb threat· evacuation· nuclear reactor

1:15:25 Yes, look for violence in America violence in America violence in America. Where are we gonna see it? I haven't seen it. Are you kidding me? Hello, hello Welcome back everybody I want to get you up to speed on some breaking news that we have just into the MSNBC newsroom concerning some different University campuses around the country first I want to start with what we're learning out of the University of Texas in Austin. Hello. This was my backyard. Hello. It is a visit Listen evacuation right now from campus orders due to threats that they received there on campus now This is according to the AP saying that a man reportedly placed these bombs all over their campus They reported this so they are in effect trying to evacuate accordingly now apparently this call came in around 1135 this morning where they received a call from a male claiming to have placed these bombs over campus he said at the time

1:16:19 that these would go off in roughly 90 minutes. Now they again evacuated the campus buildings and we're gonna work to get more information and details on that but yes lovely so yeah and of course that wasn't the only school that's the joke of it no no I like there were three other schools I cut that out Yeah, they're all over the place. So I didn't we didn't we just like hanging out in the morning We start getting emails and phone calls from all over the world. Are you guys? Okay? Are you okay in Austin? What do you guys live living on the campus in a bit of a garbage can? We don't watch the news not not you know until it's time to work. I mean, why would you think there's anything going on that would bother our people listeners to our show and

1:17:04 No, no, no, not listeners to our show. No family. No sleep. No zombies. No friends. Real friends who are zombies. Are you okay? Yeah, so we're still waiting for it to blow up. Interesting side note that the University of Texas had had I think three or four drills for exactly this scenario. In in the past couple of weeks and you do know that University of Texas also has a nuclear reactor So you have to be very very afraid very oh, yeah, there's one. Yeah, yeah, which is just ironic since it's a nuclear clear free zone in Berkeley But Cal's got a little reactor so that's just a call-in that they did but of course what the FBI really did to just accentuate their point was you know another one of these

CHAPTER 25 / 49 Discussion

FBI Entrapment, Chicago Bar Bomb Plot and Occupy Protests

An 18-year-old in Chicago is arrested for attempting to detonate a fake car bomb provided by undercover FBI agents. This is cited as another example of law enforcement "set-ups." Meanwhile, media coverage is criticized for ignoring Occupy protests targeting President Obama's campaign headquarters in Chicago and Oakland.

fbi· chicago· entrapment· occupy wall street· barack obama

1:17:50 Federal authorities say a teenager planned to blow up a bar in Chicago. FBI agents say an 18-year-old tried to set off a car bomb outside a bar in downtown Chicago. They arrested that teen last night. Officials say undercover agents pretended to be extremists and gave the teen a fake bomb. The U.S. Attorney's Office in Chicago says the public was never at any risk. That team is now charged with attempting to use a weapon of mass destruction and attempting to damage or destroy a building with an explosive. How many times do we have to go through this? How many times is this going to go on the set-ups? Hey kid! Hey kid, hey kid! I'm stoned man, what do you want? You want to take this bomb and put it in your car? No, no, just take this button that'll blow up a bomb.

1:18:36 I'm not really in the mood man. No, no, there's just just take it hold it for a second ready. Just hold it now push the button So meanwhile the underreported stuff versus what's going on with ah Occupy, especially in Chicago where they've attacked the Obama headquarters. Again? Like they did in Oakland. They did it again? No. Nobody's talking about this. But they did it again? Yeah. The Obama headquarters have been attacked. It was done last week.

1:19:11 and in Chicago they've been attacked and Oakland's got some action going on right now. All the Occupy stuff, you have to go to their website to see what's going on and they'll tell you everything. Well they had the one year anniversary. No news media is covering this again. No. And why does it, the thing that's weird is you'd think the Republicans would jump on this because you know the Democrats supposedly you know said well Occupy is you know they're bitching about the bankers and the Republicans and meanwhile they're attacking Obama's headquarters and you'd think the Republicans would say look at they've turned on their own people. I mean you think they'd use this whole thing, the whole media is broken. It's totally broken. Here's a news story on the Telegraph.

1:19:54 You see this when this came out nowhere nowhere the United States battleship aircraft carriers minesweepers and submarines from 25 nations are converging on the strategically important straight-of-horror moves for an exercise for an exercise as Israel and Iran Iran it says this in the telegraph as Israel and Iran move towards the brink of war. Yes, the script is in. Move towards... Western leaders are convinced that Iran will retaliate to any attack by attempting to mine or blockade the shipping lane. Which of course kills them. Yeah. It's like, I'm going to protest by shooting myself in the head. None of this makes any sense.

CHAPTER 26 / 49 Discussion

Strait of Hormuz Naval Exercises, International Warships

The Telegraph reports that warships from 25 nations are converging on the Strait of Hormuz for naval exercises as tensions between Israel and Iran escalate. The exercise is framed as a deterrent against potential Iranian attempts to mine or blockade the vital shipping lane in response to a military strike.

strait of hormuz· iran· telegraph· naval exercise· warships

1:19:11 and in Chicago they've been attacked and Oakland's got some action going on right now. All the Occupy stuff, you have to go to their website to see what's going on and they'll tell you everything. Well they had the one year anniversary. No news media is covering this again. No. And why does it, the thing that's weird is you'd think the Republicans would jump on this because you know the Democrats supposedly you know said well Occupy is you know they're bitching about the bankers and the Republicans and meanwhile they're attacking Obama's headquarters and you'd think the Republicans would say look at they've turned on their own people. I mean you think they'd use this whole thing, the whole media is broken. It's totally broken. Here's a news story on the Telegraph.

1:19:54 You see this when this came out nowhere nowhere the United States battleship aircraft carriers minesweepers and submarines from 25 nations are converging on the strategically important straight-of-horror moves for an exercise for an exercise as Israel and Iran Iran it says this in the telegraph as Israel and Iran move towards the brink of war. Yes, the script is in. Move towards... Western leaders are convinced that Iran will retaliate to any attack by attempting to mine or blockade the shipping lane. Which of course kills them. Yeah. It's like, I'm going to protest by shooting myself in the head. None of this makes any sense.

1:20:41 No, no, and by the way warships for more than 25 countries how much we're doing a heck of a business in these warships Britain, France and Saudi Arabia the United Arab Emirates they have warships the UAE has warships apparently Geez yeah. Oh, yeah. No. This is I saw the same way. I've only really seen in the telegraph I haven't seen No, no, it's only in the telegraph however however however Luckily we have Kate's boobs. Ah yes. Well you want to see we had to run down our article here. Please John I have a feeling you have been doing some investigation and may I just say as an aside I totally agree that shot where she's bent over and you're looking at her butt that's awesome and she's known for her butt. She has one of the really world-class butts. It's a butt of beauty.

CHAPTER 27 / 49 Discussion

BBC Royal Coverage, Surveillance Hypocrisy and Expert Analysis

The BBC's extensive coverage of the Kate Middleton photo scandal is criticized for its hypocrisy regarding privacy. While the royals demand "complete privacy," the British public is subject to 24/7 surveillance via CCTV cameras. The "expert analysis" provided by royal commentators is mocked as trivial.

bbc· kate middleton· surveillance· privacy· cctv

1:21:41 No, it's like really, it's one of those that they would sell pictures of. It's really, it's perfectly shaped. Not too big, not too small. It doesn't have, it doesn't hang. It hasn't got bulges and I get cellulite bubbling all over it. No boils. You got no boils on it. It's a no boil butt, which in our world of old guys is a big deal. Yeah. Hey man. Hey man. Hey. So let's... I got a no boil bus. ...let's run through this because I have a commentary on here that just really galls me. In fact, when I listen to... when I get to part two of these clips, I get mad. I'll get angry. What are we... what are we playing here? Are you... you're gonna get angry? I'm gonna get Kate's boobs. You're gonna get really angry? I can't wait. Not on this one. On the next one. Alright, cool.

1:22:26 It was a day to be demure. Friday, the Muslim holy day. William and Kate were making their first visit to a mosque. Kate's head was covered. They both removed their shoes. At that stage they'd heard about but not seen the photographs. They were said nearly to be saddened by the incident. But after they'd left the mosque, officials started to receive copies of what the French magazine had published. and the intensity of the reaction suddenly changed. Instead of sadness, there was fury. Officials who are used to dealing with the media started talking about a red line having been crossed. William instructed his spokesman to issue an official statement. It said the photographs had invaded their privacy in a grotesque and totally unjustifiable manner. Then, tellingly, it invoked the memory of his mother.

1:23:20 The incident is reminiscent of the worst excesses of the press and paparazzi during the life of Diana, Princess of Wales, and all the more upsetting to the Duke and Duchess for being so. I love the red line in there. That's cool. Well, whatever. It's no big deal. So now play William and Kate part two and then I get mad. Okay. Stand back everybody. Beautiful. The relationship Diana, Princess of Wales had with the press was a complicated one. Her friends say she was constantly hounded. And the same thing must not be allowed to happen to Kate. I have seen what damage is done by a constant intrusion into your life. How impossible it is to relax and have downtime. If you've always got at the back of your mind, perhaps there's a camera there. These people are humans. Perhaps there's a camera there? You mean like the general public in the UK that has cameras everywhere during their downtime, looking at them 24-7? You mean like that?

1:24:24 Is that what she's referring to? No, I think she's referring to just celebrity photographs. No, no, she's referring to that's so terrible to have cameras pointed at you during your downtime. Play the third clip, the one that's the punchline. Yes, they're the royal family, yes they lead a life of immense privilege, but they should be allowed to have complete privacy when they're not doing their duty. Really? Complete privacy when they're not doing their duty? Doing their duty you mean like being at a pub or doing something after work the British public has to put up with these cameras pointing at them 24-7 you mean like that is that what she's talking about? Because that's what it sounds like she's talking about to me. This is bullshit. They should have cameras on them the way the public has cameras on them in England 24-7 and they can shove it if they don't like it. John C. Duvorak's pet peeve of the day. Hell yeah brother preach.

1:25:19 Preach! And he throws a just saying after it as well. And then you got the final thing which I have which is my, which I thought was just an eye roller. They go on and on. The BBC spends the whole show on this stupid story because the woman has her tits exposed. So what? So then, so you get this crap. It's a very harsh lesson, sadly, that Kate has learnt this way. It was perhaps a little naive to think that they might be entirely alone. They're reported to have flown on a commercial airline to France and no number of baseball caps and sunglasses are going to properly disguise them, so people knew they were there.

1:25:56 Of course you hope that you're private, there is an expectation of privacy, perhaps there was a false sense of security by staying at a family member's chateau, but I don't think she'll be going topless again. Victoria Arbiter, thank you very much indeed for joining us with that expert analysis. Oh, oh, an expert analysis! Oh, thank you for the expert analysis, you twit. Jeez. Hey, I think our expert analysis was better. She has a no-boil butt. Thank you, Monsieurs Dvorak and Currie, for your expert analysis. Mr. Dvorak, do you have any more analysis of the boobs? Of the douchebags at the BBC? No. No. Meanwhile, in the same Gitmo nation east,

CHAPTER 28 / 49 Discussion

Facebook Offensive Post Conviction, UK Free Speech

A teenager in the United Kingdom is found guilty of posting "derogatory, disrespectful, and inflammatory" comments on Facebook regarding the deaths of British soldiers in Afghanistan. The conviction is highlighted as an example of the erosion of free speech and the legal consequences of online expression in the UK.

facebook· united kingdom· free speech· afghanistan· taliban

1:26:44 You know, this kid who wrote this thing on his Facebook about the six British soldiers in Afghanistan. I want to read this to you because he has been found guilty and will be convicted, possibly thrown in jail for the following post on Facebook. People gassing about the deaths of soldiers What about the innocent families who have been brutally killed the women who have been raped the children who have been sliced up? Your enemies were the Taliban Were the tell the Taliban not innocent harmful families all soldiers should die and go to hell the lowlife fucking scum Got a problem go cry your soldiers grave and wish him hell because that's where he's going granted not nice

1:27:28 No, I would say that lacks taste. Yes, but he's been found guilty by an English court. For what? Well, let me see if I can give you the exact sentence. This is a gun the baby sir a teenager has been found guilty of posting an offensive Facebook message following the deaths. Let me see if there's an actual here it is District Judge Jan Goodwin said Ahmet's Facebook remarks were quote derogatory disrespectful and inflammatory. I guess that's illegal now and he will be sentenced for his guiltiness of being derogatory, disrespectful and inflammatory. That is apparently against the law. And please, you know, he just did it on Facebook. Imagine if you do it in one of those cameras catches you doing it. Oh, oh, oh. They'll execute you. Yeah. Off with his head. And in Texas we had our own little shut up slave moment.

CHAPTER 29 / 49 Discussion

Child Endangerment Arrest, Texas Cul-de-sac Incident

Tammy Cooper, a mother in LaPorte, Texas, was arrested and jailed for child endangerment after a neighbor reported her children were riding scooters unsupervised in a cul-de-sac. Cooper maintains she was watching from her yard, sparking a discussion on the overreach of Child Protective Services and the decline of childhood independence.

child protective services· texas· child endangerment· parenting· laporte

1:28:28 And I think the people are not understanding exactly how messed up this is. Listen, just a bit of a report. What happened is a mom who upper class neighborhood somewhere in, I don't know, I don't know where somewhere not near here, somewhere in West Texas. So they have like a cul-de-sac and the kids are out there on their scooters roaming around and she gets picked up for endangerment of her children. Orange jumpsuit, in a cell, slam the door for 18 hours. Tammy Cooper says her kids ages 9 and 6 were riding their scooters around the cul-de-sac where they live while she sat in her front yard and watched from a few feet away.

1:29:12 A little while later, she says, a LaPorte police officer pulled up. I went out there to see what he was here for and he says, no ma'am, we're here for you. I said, oh really? Why? And that's when he proceeded to tell me that he had received a call from one of my neighbors that my kids were outside riding their scooters and supervised. Said, well, ma'am, turn around, put your hands behind your back, you're under arrest for child endangerment. So what I find interesting, and of course everyone's outraged by this, You know, because she was watching, she was watching her children! Cooper says the allegations are absurd and she insists her kids were never alone. No, I was out there the entire time. So, this is what irks me about this, is what it's become about is that she was supervising her children.

1:30:00 I know exactly where you're going with this. I'm gonna agree in advance, but keep going. Yeah, I mean, how ridiculous is this that these kids can't just be outside by their own unsupervised goofing off roaming around? Since when did this become a problem? I've never heard of such a thing. It's ridiculous. Well, the Child Protection Service... When I was a kid... When I was a kid, I tell you exactly, and this is why the slide whistle has a Pavlovian response with me. When I was a kid, when I was six, this, oh, no, no, I'll tell you how to do it in a minute. When I was six, even five, I'd be outside. It was until the streetlights came on or if it was summertime, then my mom and it wouldn't matter. I could be roaming anywhere around the streets just as long as I looked up and down the street so I wouldn't get hit by a car. They would do a, they had a slide whistle. My parents had a slide whistle. They did? Yep.

1:30:55 And they did a bosun whistle on me and that meant it was time to come home. Can you do the... I actually have a bosun's whistle which I've not brought into the play. It's like that. That's a very loud... It's like... That's kind of a bosun. It's like... I'd have to practice. But that's it. And that meant come home. And you came home and big deal. And you were out and you were, you know, you're rolling in the mud eating dirt.

1:31:34 Eating dirt, you know remember not eating dirt Johnny we ate dirt right do it. Hey and remember we used to set fires to stuff You know, what was the thing with it was a child endangerment that there's yes nectar with and this is what the this is horrible Yes, child protective services, you know, especially in Texas. They're totally corrupt. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah And they I think they just grab these children and sell them. Oh Or eat them. Yeah, maybe there's that of course. I'm gonna show my soul by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. On No Agenda in the morning. We actually have a pretty low number of people that gave us a will-wishing donations today. I'm glad we got our 444 knights in there. That was nice. Yeah, that's a plus. Jesse Wilson in Hobart, Indiana.

CHAPTER 30 / 49 Discussion

Childhood Freedom, Rock Fights and Canadian Yard Work

A nostalgic look at childhood activities like rock fights and roaming the neighborhood until the streetlights came on contrasts with modern parenting restrictions. A listener from Alberta, Canada, shares how the podcast provides entertainment while performing yard work on a tractor.

childhood· rock fights· alberta· saskatchewan· nostalgia

1:32:30 $111.11. Unfortunately the karma didn't work to get the courts to pay me my money faster. Guess the government is karma resistant. I'm sure it is. I did talk to my friend that I haven't heard from in a year, so karma please. Oh Adam, why catch up on the Shows because of all the stuff you to talk about is so important and beneficial. Yes. Oh, okay Hey remember we used to have rock fights. We throw actual rocks at each other. Do you ever do that? Yeah? And we also had gunfights with no real guns, but with guns BB guns BB gun you're like if you're juvenile delinquent You don't even sell cap gun any thought car

1:33:09 Karma. I remember rock fights and then you had some poor deaf kid who was whose name is Gunner or something in that and this is her or his sign for himself is like a little gun and they busted the kid in the grammar school for signing his own name or her own name. Gunner? Yeah, it was Gunner. I don't know if it's a guy or a girl. Gunner Nelson. Matt and Gunner Nelson. The Nelson twins. Ricky Nelson's son is named Gunner. Well there you have it. If you were deaf and you would have the sign that was pointing a gun at shooting it. And that was terrible! I mean this country is out of control. Do you remember when you used to have a rock fight and then eventually someone would get like a hole in his head and then we'd be like... Get hit by a rock. Yeah. And we'd be like, oh dude, that was kind of dumb. Why were you doing that? Because it was fun! Yeah, rock fights. Snowball fights are probably bad too. Oh, I'm sure those are illegal. Patrick Sullivan and Sturgeon someplace. Cove?

1:34:07 Need to stretch this out. I can't see it. Sturgeon County, Alberta. Alberta, our favorite place in Canada. Hey, did you get that note that it wasn't just that... Yeah, northern Saskatchewan has a bunch of stuff too. Yeah, they got money too. But, who in northern Saskatchewan, come on! She's probably being routed through Alberta. Here's my payment for my summer yard work entertainment. As I ride around the acreage on my tractor and cut the grass, I listen to the show. My neighbors always want to know why I'm laughing. So I can listen to you as I run the snow blower. Or soon, soon, I'm sorry, soon I can listen to you as I run the snow blower. Thank you very much. Well, we're glad you enjoy it.

CHAPTER 31 / 49 Discussion

Listener Donations, Swazzle-Nuff and De-Douching

Listeners contribute various amounts, including "69.69" donations, accompanied by jokes and requests for specific sound effects. The segment features the "Swazzle-Nuff" jingle and a "de-douching" ceremony requested by a donor from Western Australia.

swazzle-nuff· donations· karma· jingles· podcasting

1:34:47 Gregory Sizemore and Glenn and Bernie Maryland love the show could use a shot of karma you've got karma am I also $100 from El Campiodor from the fifth column a round of karma for everyone you've got karma Lulu on the beach, Satellite Beach, Florida 69 69 play the theme. Oh, I'm sorry John I'm asleep at the wheel here. Oh my God. No you can't even find it 69 69 dude Swazzle enough everybody happy swazzle enough

1:35:32 Started listening to the show and have been thoroughly entertained. I'm sending in 69 69 for buzzkill however Just so crackpot doesn't feel left out. I'm sending my favorite Belgian swaz on to nuff joke for Adam Okay, okay great. Can you do my unit read? I'll read it. Okay the moment the safe with the hobbies The punchline and we'll just leave it at that swaz on nerf and pooper Wow It was great

1:36:08 Thank you. I'm guessing the joke is can you tell me what are your favorite hobbies? And the guy says 69 and crapping. It doesn't translate. Forget about it. I'm happy. I'm happy with the mega mega mega Carmen. Shut up slave for my human resources. They are still zombies in the public school system. My fourth grader. just learned their definition of govern in his homework last night. Govern to control the actions of or behavior of something or someone. That's probably the definition isn't it? Yeah, that's what he said. That's what he got. That's what he sent us the money. All right, hold on. Lulu on the beat. Shut up slave mega mega karma. Just a shut up for your human resource. Shut up slave karma.

1:36:55 You've got karma. Do you think Lulu's male or female? She's female. Oh, send pictures. Say Lulu on the beach in Florida, please. St. Nicola Crest Clarkson, Western Australia. St. Nicola. 69, 69. Hey, hey, hey! Barely got in. Hey, it's Saint Nicola the night nurse with a drunk donation. Wow, I love drunk chicks. Hey, I know it's early morning here but what the heck, it's the weekend and I don't get a drop throughout the week. It's been a while since my last donation apart from my monthly subscription.

1:37:35 Sorry Are you guys serious about the limit of just three jingles per donation? Oh, I like the donation part very much It was wondering just how far people would go before you put a lid on it says is there no longer an option? I want to take the whole thing to just another new level. I want John to hop on one leg while doing a slide whistle and frantically while Adam tries to find the right buttons for a formal de-douching it that hasn't been done yet. A karma shout out for the humankind and the best podcast in the universe all while being completely cross-eyed for me being drunk. Could you arrange that please? I don't need a getting laid karma because I'm getting plenty including swazzle now so I thought I owe you for that. I love the sign off.

1:38:27 Lovey heaps, laters babes. XOXO. Alright, so you've gotta do a slide whistle and then I've gotta do a de-douching, uh... Alright, go ahead. You've been de-douched. You thought. Karma.

CHAPTER 32 / 49 Discussion

US Constitution 225th Anniversary, Paul Boyer Book

The 225th anniversary of the signing of the U.S. Constitution is marked by a book release from listener Paul Boyer. The book, "The Original Counter-Argument," adapts the writings of founders like George Mason and Patrick Henry for modern readers, warning against the centralization of power.

us constitution· paul boyer· george mason· patrick henry· liberty

1:39:09 Stephen J. Nelson in Wheatridge, Colorado. 5110 double nickels on the dime. Catherine Adams in Bellevue, Ontario. Ontario? Ontario. Yes, Ontario. Ontario. This donation is in honor of my smoking hot boyfriend's birthday. Can we get some New World Order and slide whistle action for a special day? Much love from Katie Adams to Jordan Cade here in Canada's capital, Ottawa City. Keep up the media assassination, gentlemen. I want New World Order karma. You've got karma. All right. Okay. Scroll down a bit. Paul Boyer in Leesburg, Virginia. Nice place. I've been there. 5360. I've been there.

1:40:08 Yes, nice. I'm giving you, it's a very nice place. I'm giving you my 10 cents for every elected official in the federal government. Oh. It's a 5360. I've been a listener since Daily Source, code show 107 years. Tomorrow, Monday, September 17th is the 225th anniversary of the signing of the US Constitution. Who would know? I just released a book called The Original Counter-Argument, the Founders' Case Against the Ratification of the Constitution, Adapted for the 21st Century. That's a hell of a title. It's a collection of essays by America's founders including George Mason and Patrick Henry that warn about putting too much power in the hands of too few people. I've translated their words into modern English to make them more easier to read today. Please ask your listeners to support Liberty and purchase a copy at Amazon or go to planetboyer.com for more information and please play Whoop-Em with the Constitution and have a happy 225 birthday shout out to the US Constitution.

1:41:03 You know that's uh, that actually sounds like something that I, I might want to read. Yeah, you should probably do want to read. Okay, uh... Essays are great. Old essays. Now get out there and whoop Obama's behind! Whoopin' whoopin' whoopin' with the Constitution! Whoopin' whoopin' whoopin' with the Constitution! Whoopin' whoopin' whoopin' with the Constitution! The Constitution! It's a little long. It's a little long. It's a little long. I should ban it.

CHAPTER 33 / 49 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony, Robert Rock and El Yoho

Three listeners—Robert Rock, David Goose (on behalf of his son Noah), and El Yoho—are formally knighted into the No Agenda Roundtable following donations of $1,000 or more. The ceremony includes the traditional bestowal of "hookers and blow" or "wenches and beer."

knighting· robert rock· el yoho· david goose· no agenda

1:41:44 Brad Doherty in Brooklyn, New York, 5130. No comment we can find, I don't think. Justin Hilton somewhere in the military. Congratulations on your fifth anniversary. No Agenda is my favorite podcast by far. Besides the crackpot theories, I get the most value when you fill me in on what distraction of the week was meant to distract me from. In other words, less pussy riot, more pipelines. Keep up the good work and once again, congratulations. and 5130 is our congratulatory number. That's right. And so Brad in Brooklyn. That's our fifth anniversary number? Yes. Why is that our... It's in one of the newsletters. I explained it in great detail. I forgot. I don't read the newsletter. What did it say? Oh really? Matthias Merkert in Landau. Matthias. Matthias. Merkert. Merkert.

1:42:40 Landow 50 please send me some karma for my test in chemistry on Monday. Oh better living through chemistry totally agree with that you've got karma and a couple of our nights are Chris Lewinsky and sir Jason Burke from Sherwood Park, Alberta the rich town and Richmond, Texas right up by you $50 each and include our Our broadcast day. Our broadcast day. And we thank Hero Protagonist for doing the art once again for episode 443 and for everyone who checked in for episode 444. Keep it going for us. We need to continue

1:43:22 A lot more the smaller donations would be highly appreciated because we and you can tell us a little bit short today on the On that but luckily we had our answer night and a couple other nights checking in so thank you so much Just to program your brain one more time for org slash and It's your birthday, birthday, on no agenda. Turning 225 years tomorrow on the 17th and Lucas Ziva congratulates his girlfriend Jaina or Janna. She turns 33 today. Happy birthday from all your buddies here at the best podcast in the universe. And then we have three nightings to do. It's been a while since we've had that. That's good. Yeah, there you go. You got it? I'll get mine. Hold on one second. There we go.

1:44:26 David Goose, please send your son Noah forward. And El Yoho! Gentlemen, the three of you have entered a very specific club, very special, thanks to donations in the amount of $1,000 or more. In Robert Rock's case, a special 12-12 night. I hereby pronounce all three of you Knights of the Noahs in the round table. Sir Robert, Sir Noah, and Sir El Yoho! Congratulations, gentlemen. Here is your hookers and blowers, your rent boys and chardonnay, your hot pants and booze, or your wenches and beer as you prefer. Thank you so much. It is appreciated because this is our value for value model. We do not have any commercials.

CHAPTER 34 / 49 Discussion

Media Business Models, PBS Corruption and Ad Ridicule

The podcast's "value for value" model is contrasted with traditional media, where listeners are the product sold to advertisers. The hosts argue that corporate sponsorship, even on public broadcasters like PBS and NPR, creates inherent corruption and prevents critical reporting on sponsors.

advertising· pbs· npr· value for value· corruption

1:45:05 Just know we are not sponsored by anyone in any manner whatsoever, only by you, the listener. For if you do not like it, then we don't get paid, and then we stay on the true and narrow. That's... the system kind of works. You are automatically steering us in the direction that you want the show to go. Is that a fair assessment? Yeah, they are the, we're the customers to them. Not like your normal publication or podcast where you, the listener, are, we should remind people of this. We don't do it enough. No, we don't. That's why donations go down. We forget to remind people. We forget to remind people of all the reasons they should be donating. And one of them is that in a conventional special interest publication,

1:45:50 the actual product is the reader or in the case of a podcast that is the listener you are the product to those people because and then you are bundled as a product and sold as a product to the advertisers right and look that's the way that's a traditional media model yes now we think that's Essentially, there are many ways. Not in all situations, but for the most part, when it comes to covering deep news analysis, you cannot afford to have any corruption built into the system. And that is totally a corrupt system. All you have to do is watch and see who the advertisers are on PBS. And you can see that you're not going to see any negative ads about any of them. By the way, hello, advertising at all on PBS or on NPR, our national treasure.

1:46:39 the model is corrupt by definition now. Yes, it's totally corrupt. And so we do not allow any of that to sneak into our methodology. We have no subtext whatsoever. I mean, when we play in it, we do play ads to ridicule. Yes. Which you could never do. Can you imagine any of these networks taking those crummy drug ads and mocking them? Do you have one? No, not today, but I do have a couple of ads that are worth mocking. Okay. I have to say that Ford... Yeah, Ford. Ford has... They had this show on called Give Me the Gig Ford. What is this show? What is this show? Mini-series. What is this show? Give Me the... Is it a reality show? Give Me the Gig Ford. It's to get a job working for the Ford Fusion rollout or something, which I think is pretty close to happening. And... Is this a hybrid thing?

CHAPTER 35 / 49 Discussion

Ford Focus Studio, Kia Soul and Green Shaming

The "Ford Focus Studio" reality show is cited as an example of embedded advertising. A discussion on the Kia Soul explores the idea of "green shaming," where driving older, less efficient vehicles like a Range Rover might lead to social or legal repercussions under future environmental policies.

ford focus· kia soul· barack obama· fuel efficiency· green energy

1:47:36 I think yeah, I think there's the fusion hybrids one, but whatever is that beside the point? Here's an example how you embed as first if the name of the show has got to it's called the Ford show is what is called basically Ford show right slave the Ford Unfortunately, I have it spelled wrong here, but it's actually I Got it. I got it. You ready. Yeah, I hit it now that all four artists have performed I Don, Chris and Tom must choose who will be invited back to record with the state-of-the-art Ford Focus Studio. I hear Diddy is going to record in the Ford Focus Studio next week. Yes, Ford Focus, not the future. Cheryl Crow is... Now, can I... I want to say something about cars for a moment. You know that by 2015 every vehicle

1:48:25 new vehicle that is produced will have to have a mile per gallon efficiency of I think it's 52 miles per gallon or 52 or 55 I can't remember one of the two and so and of course if if if Romney is elected president this will give this they'll kill this yes that's the only good thing about Romney but here's what I've told Mickey because I've been seeing this ad have you seen This is the car. I'm gonna have to get because the first of all it's affordable. It's the Kia Soul have you so yeah, so I love this car. But first, I hold on before you go. Okay, I'm gonna I have a counter. I'm going to talk you out of it, but keep going. Okay. So first of all, I love the commercial with the with the it's like you're on acid and the mice are doing a concert with like classical music and he rips off his head and he's a mouse and he gets in the car and then he's like, you know, and it's like stars and stuff and the car it's like it's great. It's a box.

1:49:24 It has I think three cylinders. It's a stylish box. The speakers have green lights. It has a GPS. And I'm telling Mickey if Obama is reelected, go ahead. You drive your 1999 Range Rover. You're going to get arrested. People will throw rocks at you because you're a big evil, ungreen girl. And I'm going to be Mr. I'm going to be driving in the little box. It's $14,000. So I think that's $60 a month. I think that is about the cost. That is the car, 36 months. That is the car that I can afford. And I am

CHAPTER 36 / 49 Discussion

Korean Car Critique, Kia Soul and Hyundai Sonata

A personal critique of Korean automobiles describes the Kia Soul as a "tin can" with uncomfortable seating and poor build quality. The Hyundai Sonata is similarly dismissed as a "gutless wonder" despite its attractive design, with a recommendation to stick to Toyota or Ford for better performance.

kia soul· hyundai sonata· car review· rental cars· performance

1:50:00 Telling you this is what if Obama is reelected I am going to be driving this because I don't want to wait for people to shoot at me Because I'm driving a big truck, and I'm not green and I'm evil now. You're gonna talk me out of this car I wouldn't even worry about that, but let me give you my stories First of all, my wife, I think she got, for some reason, rented a car or something. She got one of these things and she's... The Soul? The Kia Soul? The Soul. And so she's raving about it. It's an awesome car, absolutely. No. So I... Don't say no. I think she just drove it for a day. I don't know what she did. Or she just looked at it. Or she likes the car. She sounds like you, actually. So I said, okay, so I'm up in Washington, so I decide to rent one.

1:50:44 You rented a Kia Soul? Yes. I'm jealous. Because she was so into this car. Okay. This car is a piece of crap. Oh. It is a tin can. It's uncomfortable. You at your height, you are gonna die in this car. You will not like it. I thought the car is, this is cool looking, it's a cool looking little runabout. I'd say that's true. But it's got no padding in the seats, it's like your butt hits the bottom of the thing right away. I mean, it is no good, this car. It has 1500cc's. And by the way, I rented, the other day I rented a, I was somewhere and I rented a, I can't remember, I was in LA. And I rented the, I've always had an eye on this thing too, because Kia's owned by Hyundai and Hyundai's. I thought Kia was Ford actually.

1:51:32 Kia no Kia's owned by Hyundai. Okay, all right Kia is owned by Hyundai. Wait a minute. Wait a minute It's mile per gallon is not isn't it only gonna be 35 miles per gallon on what the Kia Soul? Yes Yeah, you get bet you before it focuses your best. It's not even gonna it won't even qualify Let me finish my story. So I rented a The Hyundai Sonata or that really just our high-end is their new super good look I mean, I think is the one of the best looking cars on the road. It's a big giant Beautiful car with a two-cylinder engine or something. It's like there's four

1:52:11 I don't know what the engine is, but it's a gutless wonder. I mean talking about gutless wonders, you punch it and you wait, you know, you could hit the stopwatch button and wait. And it also chokes everyone so well when you punch it, which is I don't like. I like responsiveness to my cars. And these Korean cars just don't cut it. Sorry. If you're going to buy a puddle jumper, get a Toyota or a Ford or Something else. No, I wanted the crazy my son acid. No don't even think about that. Well as seeing as it only gets 35 Sponsored by a bunch of advertisers we have to worry about I don't mind saying what I think about these cars I don't like them. No, that's great I can't wait to hear you do twit today because I think you're hosting the show and you'll have to read the Ford ad That's gonna be awesome. The ads are all pre done by Leo. Oh

CHAPTER 37 / 49 Discussion

Cybersecurity Executive Order, Communication Sector Control

A leaked draft of a Presidential Policy Directive on cybersecurity reveals plans to grant the Department of Homeland Security broad authority over the "communication sector," including the internet backbone. The order aims to create a "national unity of effort" for protecting critical infrastructure through information sharing.

cybersecurity· executive order· janet napolitano· critical infrastructure· internet

1:53:00 You should just mention this little factoid though right after that. That what about I don't like the Kia? No. Okay. Yeah, they would probably like that. So I got a piece of legislation here that I've been looking at and now I don't know if I mentioned this because I think for three weeks I've had in the show notes that that there's this rumor been going around that the White House, the president specifically, would come out with an executive order about cybersecurity because they can't pass a bill. And there's a lot of money involved in this cyber security stuff. And we have the Lieberman bill, which you know, then the part of McCain is in there. There's all these douchebags. We've played many, many clips of these total nincompoops who know nothing about cyber whatever.

1:53:51 And it's just more control, the private companies get to share your information. So it's been struck down. And so we've been hearing, there's been rumors that there would be an executive order for cybersecurity. Have you heard of this rumor, John? I think we mentioned the rumor last show. So we did mention it. Good. So I have what is now being passed around as a draft of the PPD, the Presidential Directive of said order. So this is not an executive order yet, but it looks like this is what the executive order would be. I thought maybe we should review a few things. Wow! Wow? A draft. This is the, you've gone deeper than I can imagine. You actually have the draft of the, but not the executive order. No, it's the draft. It says pre-decisional draft CIP PPD. Where'd you get that?

1:54:51 Well, this is out there. This came out on the net two days ago. It's obviously out there just to get public comment. OK. Yeah, probably. I mean, but it's out there. It's version seven of the draft. Critical infrastructure protection purpose of this executive order to strengthen and maintain secure functioning and resilient critical infrastructure by updating United States policy to promote a national unity of effort for critical infrastructure protection. That right off the bat to me is like, whoa, that's some New World Order crap. Unity of effort. Federal government has a responsibility to protect its own critical infrastructure and mission essential functions and to organize itself to enable effective partnerships with and add value to the protection and resilience efforts, remember there's that resolve and resilience, of critical infrastructure owners and operators.

1:55:51 And that's okay because it talks here about the policy identifying the energy sector as uniquely critical. But here's the problem. This executive order also says it identifies the communication sector as uniquely critical with key dependencies that cut across all other critical infrastructure sectors. So they want to have this directive, this policy, this executive order pertain to the communication sector. What in your mind is the communication sector? AT&T, the backbone, I don't know. The internet maybe. It's everything. Yeah, the internet, backbone. Just everything.

CHAPTER 38 / 49 Discussion

Janet Napolitano, Pre-Crime and Cyber-Based Systems

The proposed cybersecurity directive designates Secretary Janet Napolitano as the strategic coordinator for national infrastructure protection. The language in the draft is criticized for being vague and open-ended, potentially enabling "pre-crime" investigations by the FBI and DHS into domestic threats.

janet napolitano· dhs· fbi· pre-crime· cybersecurity

1:56:29 Yeah, everything. The phones, the phone system, everything but yeah, everything including radio. So they will develop and implement an information exchange framework so that's where your information will be exchanged and shared. And here's who thinks is going to do all this. What outfit would you give your sensitive data and protection of your cyber infrastructure to? Well, I was thinking of giving it to Janet Napolitano. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey! Exactly. The Secretary of Homeland Security shall serve as the strategic coordinator for the national effort to enhance the protection and resilience... She hasn't got enough to do. ...of the critical infrastructure of the United States. And this, of course, is pursuant to the Homeland Security Act 2002 for the Secretary of Homeland Security. She gets to do everything. This role includes coordination, John, with sector-specific agencies.

1:57:26 Which apparently don't exist yet, but they will exist. We need to hire more people. That's right! It will be the Secretary's responsibility to establish metrics to evaluate progress during toward reducing known and emerging vulnerabilities. That's stuff that doesn't exist. Including a feedback mechanism to foster federal accountability. Sure, sure you will. So it's essentially, I got two more things here. The Department of Defense is responsible for planning, coordinating, integrating, synchronizing, and directing activities to operate and defend the Department of Defense critical infrastructure information networks, including the Federal Bureau of Investigation, will play a critical role in reducing domestic terrorist threats and by law investigating and prosecuting actual or attempted terrorist or criminal attacks or sabotage pre-crime. Pre-crime.

1:58:27 Total frickin pre-crime. Before it's a crime, it's pre-crime. Department of Homeland Security will engage private sector, research, academic and government organizations to improve supply chain security for technology and tools related to cyber-based systems. Cyber. Tons of cyber. What is a cyber-based system? I think I'm sitting on one right now. In addition to information security policies, directive standards and guidelines for safeguarding national security systems, it shall be overseen as directed by the President in accordance with that direction carried out under the authority of the heads of the agencies that operate or exercise authority over such national security systems." I.e. total open-ended, vague language to give Janet Napolitano, Lucy, free reign over everything.

1:59:22 So yeah, I agree with you. This was definitely leaked to see how it would come back because I mean, is anyone going to do anything about this or we just going to let this slide? I mean, if it's an executive order. Let it slide. We did. You know, the X Factor's back on. By the way, the voice is... Here comes Honey Boo Boo. It's really funny. The voice is so much better than the X Factor. Hey, but did you hear who the judges are on American Idol? They put new people in. Yeah! I guess they fired a couple of guys because Howard Stern is out. No, he's not an American idol. He's on America's Got Talent. Oh, shit! How could I make that mistake? It's amazing, isn't it?

CHAPTER 39 / 49 Discussion

European Austerity Protests, Pooling of Sovereignty

Massive anti-austerity protests erupt in Spain and Portugal as the European Union moves toward a new treaty for deeper economic integration. Herman Van Rompuy's proposal for "pooling of sovereignty" is interpreted as a move to strip individual nations of their rule of law in favor of centralized control from Brussels.

spain· portugal· austerity· european union· herman van rompuy

2:00:11 Just carry on and be a freaking zombie. The X-Factor, the voice, America's got talent, anyone can dance, you can dance, dancing with the stars. I mean give me a break! What is wrong with this country? Let's have a look and see what's happening with Spain and Portugal. Hundreds of thousands of Spaniards from all walks of life are due to gather in the capital Madrid in a mass march against government austerity measures. Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy continues to deny that his country will request a full-blown bailout as he prepares a further round of budget cuts. If there's a massive response to our call to march from the Spanish people, which is what I hope, we will demand a referendum on these austerity measures and cuts. That way we can avoid being ruled by the markets.

2:01:03 Madrid is under real pressure to help its faltering regions and avoid civil disorder. Further falls in house prices are adding to the insecurity. Neighbors Portugal are in similar straits and anti-austerity protests have taken place in Porto and more are due in the capital Lisbon and 25 towns and cities across the country over the weekend. So this was a report about kind of as it was starting to go. In Portugal alone I heard over 600,000 people were on the streets and what's interesting is this is organized by the labor unions. This is not the populists.

2:01:43 This is the labor unions who are, I mean, the whole, it's such a mess right now. It is such a mess in Europe. And they, remember just three days ago, we played the clips of Barroso saying, we're going to integrate, we're going to, you know, pool everything all together and, you know, it'll take a little bit of time, but we, this is, we have to have a new treaty. Man, they didn't wait 48 hours. And here's the, The paper issues paper on completing the economic and monetary union. This has now been put on the table by Heiko Herman Van Rompuy. And I read from the document, point one, an integrated financial framework. The single supervisory mechanism should be established for banks in the euro area by the end of 2012.

2:02:38 Following this, the ESM could have the possibility to recapitalize banks directly. I just want to explain for you Europeans that this means, and it's going to happen clearly, is that your tax money will go directly into commercial banks. Okay? Sounds like a good idea. Sounds like a good... Sounds good. Point two, towards an integrated budgetary framework. I'm sorry, strengthening democratic legitimacy and accountability. Listen to the words that my voice speaketh. Strengthening democratic legitimacy and accountability. And let me read from this. Moving towards more pooling of sovereignty. Pooling of sovereignty.

2:03:30 That is a contradiction in terms. It's classic. Stronger decision-making power at the European level and democratic accountability will reinforce each other. Let me just run that by you again. What does that even mean? This is essential to build public support for the European-wide decisions, you see. Stronger decision-making power at the European level, i.e. by pooling your sovereignty, giving up your rule of law to the European level, and giving democratic accountability, which is, I mean, I don't even know what that means, to the European Starfleet command will reinforce you being squashed like a bug and pooped on. That's my interpretation.

CHAPTER 40 / 49 Discussion

Nigel Farage, European Parliament and Greek Islands

Nigel Farage of the UK Independence Party delivers a scathing rebuke to the European Parliament, accusing leaders of ignoring democratic votes in France, Ireland, and the Netherlands. Meanwhile, reports emerge that Greece is identifying 40 islands to be leased for 50 years to satisfy debt requirements imposed by the "Troika."

nigel farage· european parliament· greece· troika· privatization

2:04:26 And then... I think that's accurate. That's an accurate interpretation. For me to poop on you. So for everyone who voted in the Netherlands for your pro-European government, you get the government you deserve. You really do. And enjoy that. I'm not saying ours is any better. But enjoy that. I don't think... I remember, man, I was there when they got the whole euro thing. Everybody was like, we don't have to change money at the border. So play I got my face now. Here's the fairage clip I had this is the one of the skinny guy Yes, skinny guy scoring aiding fairage for being a douchebag Fair is just blasting him back. Okay. Gotcha. All right. This is a Nigel fairage of the UK Independent Party in the European Parliament. He is a president on the he's on the Starfleet command side. He's on the dais these days So he's just shows you when I was a young member a long time ago, of course

2:05:28 Some people learn then to listen, but it's getting a bit boring. For the last decade you've been telling us how awful, how monstrous everything is here and there's going to be doom tomorrow. The disasters are going to come to us from all sides. And what's happening? I'm not afraid of tomorrow morning. Some people perhaps believe you. Some of the older people perhaps believe what you're saying, but I don't. I mean, think about something new. Say something new. Say something different.

2:06:10 Well I think the point about listening is a very good one. Very good one. You should have listened when the French people voted no to the European Constitution but you chose to ignore them. You should have listened when the Dutch by a massive majority of two to one said no to the Constitution but you didn't. You rebranded it as the Lisbon Treaty without conceding a single power, you bulldozed it through and here this morning we hear talk of a new treaty and a new constitution. And when Little Ireland, when Little Ireland not once but twice dares to vote no in a referendum on European integration, you don't listen, you bully them and make them vote again. You're the one, sir, who's not listening.

2:06:53 Thank you. Yes, of course you will not get to vote at all and you're pulling your sovereignty towards Brussels and Strasbourg so you won't get to vote at all on any of these issues. And let me read to you from a wonderful financial paper that I was sent by one of our producers. This it goes back to Greece and here's we this you can cross it off on the Red Book Greek Troika official so the Troika official is someone who is a Nazi essentially from the Starfleet command who has come in the Troika being the IMF the European Commission and The European Central Bank who are knows if you know that there was the council is it a council? I'm sorry Commissioner Council

CHAPTER 41 / 49 Discussion

Troika Inspectors, Greek Asset Sales and Islets

Matthias Mors of the European Commission leads a team of "Troika" inspectors in Athens to oversee the sale of Greek state assets. The plan to lease islands and "islets" to reduce national debt is confirmed, fulfilling a previous prediction that the country would be forced to liquidate its territory.

troika· greece· matthias mors· privatization· islands

2:07:43 Council I think you're right council, so he's a troika member Troika I mean doesn't it I hope he has an armband and has a hat I think you know stars. I hope a little circle of stars. Just Google it Do we have what is a troika official troika? Official uniform let me just see uniform. I bet you they have a uniform oh They should. There's lots of pictures of Angela Merkel, so maybe you just have a Merkel mask on. That is your official Troika uniform. European Commission official Matthias Moss, he's German, go figure, said the so-called Troika of inspectors from the Euro area, European Central Bank and the International Monetary Fund had a constructive meeting today with Greek finance ministry officials in Athens.

2:08:33 Greek's Hellenic Republic Asset Development Fund has identified 40 islands and islets that will be leased for as long as 50 years to reduce debt as pressure grows on the country to revive an asset sale plan key to receiving international aid. 50 years, 40 islands. Well, we already predicted that. That's what I'm saying, but here it is. They're going after the islands. Here it is. And there's 50 of them, so there must be 50 guys in the EU council. No, no, 40 islands, but they get them for 50 years. Oh, 40 islands, okay, so there's 40 people that get the islands. They get them for 50 years. Well, actually, there are probably some big shots. I mean, you know, let's face it, Soros is going to get an island. Oh, yeah. And an islet. It's an island and islets.

2:09:19 Is that an islet? An islet? It's like a small hole you put a string through. What? What is an islet? Hold on. Islet. Islet. It's an islet. It's a small island. An islet is a very small island. Yeah, that's uh... That's for this... No, no, no. As long as there's some house on there or something. As long as you got a septic system. It's a sandbar. A sandbar. Sandbar. Sandbar. Hey, that's probably our size, man. We can go get us a sandbar in Greece. I mean, does anyone else see how crazy this is? Yeah, but you can take it out of the book. Yeah, no, we had it in the book. I know that. We had it in the book. They're going to be selling the islands. I thought they'd just be selling them outright, but I guess the lease is... It's probably better. It's probably better because you can just go and up it. You can just up the lease.

CHAPTER 42 / 49 Discussion

Reality TV Gigs, Democracy Now! Video Segments

The segment mocks the "Give Me the Gig" Ford Focus reality show and critiques the production style of "Democracy Now!" The hosts examine how alternative media outlets handle video segments and political commentary, specifically regarding Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel.

ford· democracy now· amy goodman· reality tv· media analysis

2:10:10 Yeah, and I guess I'm I mean what else you got I got some stuff I want to talk about but maybe you have something that you wanted to get off Well, I do have a lighter note. I do have the stupid TV clip of the week. Oh Nice nice. Should we play it? Yeah. I don't even know where this clip is from. So much digital innovation. Here's it, here's it. You didn't like that, try this. No, you're gonna kill me with more? Well, just to say, this is one of the contestants in the Ford Focus Studios gig, give me a gig, Ford. And it's Sue, Sue, Sue, which I think has got a lot of thematic uses. And we take a look at the judges, what do you say?

2:11:19 Oh, we're sorry. We have to we have to kill you that'll be my reality show That would be a good idea all right. I'm so okay one more and white get one more one more This is the reason I like to watch Democracy Now and this is the famous go to the video segment of Democracy Now and how they handle this, how slick this operation is. What is go to the video segment? I don't understand. What is this segment? You know, you say, hey Adam, we're going to go to the video. Oh, we're going to go to the video. Yeah, they're going to go to the video. Ready? But this force is something to be reckoned with. Jaisal, I want to play a short comment from Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel about the teachers' call for a fair contract. I'll play that in a moment. But talk, why don't you introduce it by talking about who, the significance of Rahm Emanuel, the former chief of staff of President Obama. Oh, that really blew chunks.

CHAPTER 43 / 49 Discussion

Chicago Teacher Strike, Charter Schools and Privatization

A massive teacher strike in Chicago highlights the conflict over school privatization and the expansion of charter schools. Critics argue that the charter system allows for "cherry-picking" the best students while marginalizing the rest of the public education system to benefit private interests.

chicago· teacher strike· rahm emanuel· charter schools· education

2:12:23 That was great. So now there's a teacher strike, a massive teacher strike in Arne Duncan's neck of the woods in Chicago because they're a bunch of douchebags. They make $74,000 a year on average I think these teachers. Well that's not what the real issue is though, that's what they're trying to portray, it's just a money grab. No, the issue is that they're going to be paid according to how good they do, how well they do. No, they don't. See the thing is all this It's just the whole thing is a bunch of bullcrap. I think the best I have is a clip from a girl from the school called Social Justice High, who I actually think nails it. They're putting their own stooges in to these different schools. It's just that Chicago's corrupt, let's face it. And apparently the students and the teachers and everybody in between and the parents are

2:13:11 or just annoy what they're trying to do to the schools, which is essentially shut down most of them, put them on this charter school thing, privatize a lot of it. It's just a corrupt system. It's all about the charter schools, all about privatizing education so people can make money. And so here's the girl at Social Justice High, which is just one of the girls going to the school. It's a Latino school. And she's bitching about what they've done because they had a bunch of AP classes, which helps people get into college. What's AP? They took them out. What's an AP class? advanced placement. Right away the new principal, Ms. Velazquez, she took away three of our AP classes, you know, and she pretty much messed up our whole schedule. She put in remedial classes and pretty much that's an insult. That's saying we're not smart enough. We don't need to belong in those AP classes. We're stupid. And so right off the bat,

2:14:02 I feel that her choices not only reflected her personal decisions, because she tried of course to rationale with us, oh look at the test scores, you know, they're doing pretty bad. And when we would point out to her saying, we have a positive trend in the test scores, we've actually increased in AP enrollment, we've increased in AP passings in general. And also it relates because her decisions to destabilize the school are not only on her behalf, but it's pretty much she's listening to her superiors. That's Rosia Mesa, student at Social Justice High School. Jessel, as we wrap up. She was very astute. She was talking about destabilizing the school. I'd say she was schooled herself in PR.

2:14:46 Oh yeah. She's a high school kid though and it's like, you know, I was listening to this whole report on all the crap going on in Chicago and this is a... and the weird thing about listening to it on Democracy Now! They never say, they never, they refuse to just, you know, say look, this is a corrupt administration we have run by Rahm Emanuel out of a... don't mention that he worked for Obama, but these guys are just Obama bots. At the end of the day, they're still Obama bots and they can't see through the forest through the trees. And it's just like, it's depressing. It's like, I've seen people do this and say, well, this is terrible what's going on, but it can't be the boss's fault. No, no.

2:15:26 I gotta tell you it's terrible. Well, what's whose fault is it? Well, I don't know whose fault it is, but it's terrible. I mean, it's just like really just galling. I will agree that this is probably I haven't looked into it that much, but it sounds to me like indeed this is this is about turning everything into a charter school, which in effect is just another part of the government money teat that people just want to suck on right because you set up as a for profit school, correct? Well, it's more than that. I mean, it's not necessarily... it's different. It's not just a for-profit. It's not really... that's not what the real goal of charter schools is. It's a way to marginalize people in the education system and create a brainwashing system that's a little more advanced than the one we currently have. It's really what it's all about.

CHAPTER 44 / 49 Discussion

History of Schooling, Nationalistic Propaganda and Sports

The historical origins of the modern school system are discussed as a means of social indoctrination and brainwashing. This theme is extended to professional sports, which are characterized as "bread and games" designed to keep the population docile and nationalistic through militaristic displays and team loyalty.

education· propaganda· nationalism· sports· militarism

2:16:12 Interesting. And you get to, say for example, you have a, the charter schools get the cherry pick. They'll go into the one, the school, and they'll take all the best students and let the other students, take all the good students out of one of the schools and make a charter school and put all the good students into it and let the other schools sink. Yeah, poop on them. And that's part of the thing. I have a special, I'm going to do a package on this eventually. Another promise at the end of another fine episode of No Agenda. Another promise for the Scholastic Package. Let me ask you a question. I read, someone sent me an article a while back, and I'm just kind of paraphrasing this, that the entire idea of school was derived

2:16:58 from like a German school, which would make sense for the etymology of the word, but that they, that school initially always was set up as a brainwashing facility. That schools, historically speaking, were not, universities may be differently, but the idea of throwing kids into a school was to indoctrinate them with all kinds of propaganda. Is there any, does that ring true to you at all? It was the social apps, kids, yeah. But the Americans specifically... I think it's only recently that the propaganda thing has been increased to such an extreme. Well, that's not true. I mean, come on. I mean, the whole, I pledge allegiance to the flag, even that's, it's a nationalistic propaganda. That showed up, I think, in the 50s. Right, right. So that's recent. So after the Second World War. This is kind of where I'm going. I mean, we never used to have, you never used to go to a Yankees. You didn't go to the 27, watch the 27 Yankees.

2:17:57 and then there would be a national anthem and then a flyover. The flyovers are killing me. Wow, flyover! And so I mean that never happened before. It's only been recent that we've had all these sorts of things. Why does a sporting event become a military event? Well no, I think sporting events have always been a militaristic replace only since World War two no never were before World War one bear with me of course this is the new the new propaganda we have to keep men particularly busy and rooting for a team and we can't have you like getting all you know men have testosterone they want to go out and we'll beat someone up you know join a gang you know go I don't know attack

2:18:45 the government. So instead, we give you like all kinds of candy and great beautiful graphics and we give you a team to root for and a beautiful stadium to go to. No, I think that's bread and games. You know, this is all of that. All sporting to me, professional sports is all about keeping slaves happy and docile. And we'll serve you beer at the game too. You can't say that there's no element of that. Yeah, no, I'm not going to argue that. But that's not the same as militaristic. Well, you look at football by itself and that is a very militaristic game. And B.B. Netanyahu himself talks about the red zone, the 20-yard line, the goal.

2:19:31 Yeah, it's a militaristic game, the football game itself, because it's a war. Excuse me, we have the big Thanksgiving Army... And it's in the trenches, they use the word trenches, and the battle... The big Thanksgiving Army-Navy game... And there's the goal and the rest of it. But it's not like the U.S. Army is associated with professional football until recently. Yes it is. No, that's incorrect. I remember Thanksgiving, the big thing was on Thanksgiving, it's the Army-Navy game. As a kid, I was five years old, so this is 40 years of this. That was the big thing, you were Army or Navy. I'm saying, yeah, it's all been since World War II. Yes! Yeah, thank you. My point is made. I'm saying it never was like that before World War I. Yeah, well, okay, just because you can remember that doesn't make my point wrong. When I was a kid, we used a rock for a football.

CHAPTER 45 / 49 Discussion

War on Cash, Finland Receipts and Greek VAT

The "war on cash" continues with new legislation in Finland requiring receipts for all small business transactions. In Greece, cash registers are being linked directly to the finance ministry, allowing the government to automatically deduct Value Added Tax (VAT) from a merchant's bank account at the moment of sale.

war on cash· finland· greece· vat· taxation

2:20:23 So here's something that you and I will both be able to complain about in the future because of course we've been keeping our eye on the war on cash for quite a while now and in Finland the Ministry of Employment and the Economy is going to mandatory air ties and otherwise, and where's it make mandatory that all businesses especially small businesses have to hand out a receipt with a copy for anything so if you've got a lemonade stand You got to hand out receipts because you have to show receipts for all of your sales This bill is expected to come up for the legislature early in the next year, but Greece I'm sorry. I kind of missed this one they have now

2:21:14 connected all shops and companies cash registers directly with the finance ministry's TaxisNet electronic system This is happening now as we speak so the VAT so here's how you have value-added tax and typically how it works you sell a candy bar to some slave who wants the aspartame and then you take $1 and you add 19 cents or I think it's actually 25 cents now in Greece 25 cents additional tax and And then at the end of the month, you have to take all those 25 cents and you have to send it off to the government. That's the VAT. Now... Wait a minute. Are you telling me that if I want to buy a dollar candy bar, for the privilege of buying this candy bar, I have to give the government 25 cents for the privilege of buying a dollar candy bar? In Greece you do. Huh. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

2:22:13 20 tribute is it they call it why is it a tax it should be called a tribute a tribute to the Emperor I've got a tithe a Tribute to the Emperor tribute tribute to the Emperor okay, so call it a tribute whatever you want, but now you know how they're doing is You put the money in the cash register, the $1.25, and immediately the cash register, through the new Taxes Net Electronic System, deducts 25 cents from the shop's bank account, sends it right to the Ministry of Finance. Even before it gets deposited? These guys are going to get overdrawn by these crooks. I just love it. And then I love them watching

CHAPTER 46 / 49 Discussion

Quantitative Easing, The Bernank and Minionville

The Federal Reserve's announcement of QE3 is satirized through a "Minionville" cartoon script featuring "The Bernank." The segment mocks Ben Bernanke's lack of business or policy experience and the perceived absurdity of the Fed's attempts to manage the economy through endless monetary expansion.

ben bernanke· qe3· quantitative easing· minionville· federal reserve

2:22:59 You know this iPhone 5 came out and it was like man. I'm so bummed. They didn't have any near-field communications now We can't have our e-wallet stuff like people run away from the e-wallet stuff run away from this this has been not I know I mean the pain I saw this idea is for a decade I saw you writing article think it's cool. Yeah, so let me just wind it up with some you know there's an I don't know if you've heard this term the Bernanke and The Bernank. The Bernank. And it kind of, this cracks me up. So we have this quantitative easing, QE3 as it is known. And Ben Bernanke did his, actually went a little further I feel than normal on his question and answer session. But then there's this, you know, what is that thing called? They had this like cartoon generator and you can enter a script and then these two characters talk to each other.

2:23:59 You've seen this a million times. Now tell me again? Well I'll play it for you. Here's the two characters, you enter a script, you upload it into some generator and then these two like kind of weird cartoonish characters looking like bears or whatever, they have a conversation with each other, it's kind of animated. When you hear the voices you'll recognize it, you'll say oh yeah that. But you're talking about the bear and bull thing from, yeah, those guys, the stock market guys. Yeah, exactly. Except now I don't know why I can't remember the name. I can't remember. Minionville. Yes. So they did a script on explaining quantitative easing.

2:24:36 And I got 30 seconds of it because for some reason they decided to call Ben Bernanke their Bernank. And it's just funny and I just want you to hear it and then we want to listen to the Bernank. Who's the Fed? The Fed is run by the Ben Bernank. Does the Ben Bernank have a lot of business experience? No, the Ben Bernank has no business experience. Does the Ben Bernank have a lot of policy experience? No, the Ben Bernank has no policy experience. Has the Ben Bernank ever run in an election? No, the Ben Bernank has never run in an election. So what qualifies him to run the Fed? I don't know, maybe the fact that he has a nice beard. But my plumber also has a nice beard and I would not trust him to play God with the economy. No, although when you call the plumber to fix something that is broken, they usually fix it, not break it more. So I just love the whole the Ben Bernank. That tickles me for some reason.

CHAPTER 47 / 49 Discussion

Ben Bernanke, Economic Accommodation and Labor Force

Ben Bernanke uses the term "accommodation" to describe the Fed's ongoing economic support, admitting that unemployment declines are largely due to people leaving the labor force rather than job creation. He suggests that significant progress on employment may not be seen until mid-2015.

ben bernanke· unemployment· labor force· inflation· federal reserve

2:25:29 Yeah, I guess you don't like it. It sounds like Doug. It does. It's the Ben Bernanke. So here's the Ben Bernanke. And I just want to, you know, whenever the politicians talk about revenue, you know, that's code for tax. And there's a new word out there. You know, the new code for for for spending money. Do you know what that is? Spending money is no. Asset reallocation? No, it's better. Well, the ultimate effect is going to depend, of course, on how much we end up doing and that in turn is going to depend on what the economy does. This is a conditional program. We're going to be providing accommodation according to how the economy evolves. Accommodation, John. It's accommodation. Accommodation according to how the economy evolves. I just love accommodation.

2:26:20 How long is this accommodation going to last? Well, until the economy looks better. So how are we going to do with the jobs, Ben Bernanke? That's not the objective. The idea is to make sure we provide enough support so the economy will grow fast enough to bring unemployment down over time. As we look back at the last six months or so, we've seen unemployment basically the same place it was in January. We've seen not enough jobs growth to bring down the unemployment rate. And what we need to see is more progress. And that's what we'll be looking at. In terms of the mid-2015 date, we think by that point that the economy will be recovering, will be providing the support it needs. But if you look at our projections, you'll see it doesn't involve any inflation. We still believe that inflation is going to be close to our 2% target. So essentially, no jobs until 2015? Is that what I heard him say? Yeah, probably what he said. Yeah.

2:27:15 No jobs, we got no jobs ahead. How are we going to have jobs? Here's Bernanke, the Ben Bernank, actually debunking the entire lie of the jobs numbers that the Obama administration is jumping up and down about like, oh, unemployment went down. Gordon with the Associated Press, one of the aspects we've seen in recent reports on unemployment is the shrinking labor force. Is that something that's of specific concern to you and what does it tell us about the labor market and the economy? Well, you're absolutely right. And as I mentioned earlier, the unemployment decline last month was more than 100% accounted for by declines in participation. More than 100%? How is this possible? Is this guy an economist?

2:28:11 More than what he meant was the numbers It was in other words what he was trying to say was that it's worse. Yeah, then it was presented Yeah, so in other words it was the decline in participation was actually worse Yeah Thank you, but this is because more people are dead or don't give a crap anymore. I just homeless enough They're now begging for money on the corners of the freeway entrance. They're just laying around Alrighty, I think that does it for me. Except for that Halliburton radioactive device they lost in Texas. Oh, that's good, that's good to know. I have one little thing I wanted to do, which was just play this clip, which is called the Shelly Adelson BS, and it comes from Democracy Now!, and it's one of those things, can you do the math on this?

CHAPTER 48 / 49 Discussion

Sheldon Adelson, Tax Windfall and Casino Mogul

A report from the Center for American Progress claims that billionaire casino mogul Sheldon Adelson would save $2 billion in taxes under a Mitt Romney presidency. The hosts calculate the massive taxable income required for such a windfall and discuss Adelson's influence in both U.S. and Israeli politics.

sheldon adelson· mitt romney· taxes· casino· billionaire

2:29:07 I'd like to know, I'm gonna ask you a question, this will be like an Ask Adam, but it's not Ask Adam. Alright, alright. When this little clip is over, I want to ask you something. A new report shows the billionaire casino mogul and top Republican donor Sheldon Adelson stands to reap a massive tax windfall should Mitt Romney win the presidential election. According to the Center for American Progress, Romney's policies would save Adelson more than $2 billion in taxes. Okay. Two billion dollars in taxes? What is his tax bill? Are you telling me that he's paying over two billion dollars now in taxes because he's going to save two billion in taxes? What kind of income does this guy have? Well I would presume... This is bull crap! He's not paying two billion in taxes! Well let's just do the numbers. Is this an Ask Adam or is this just a yell at Adam's face? It's a yell at Adam's Ask Him.

2:30:02 Okay, so let's presume that Shelly Adelson has a typical tax rate of what should we call it, 20%? Yeah, probably 20%. Let's just say 25 for easy calculation. Well, 20 is easier for me because 2 billion would be 20%, which would mean that his income- His taxable income. Taxable income would have been what? Well times five, it'd be ten billion. Ten billion dollars. Maybe he makes ten billion dollars a year. So every year he's making ten billion dollars in taxable income. No, no, no, no, no, it's ten billion in tips. That's just what he finds. Oh, that's what it is. It's just what he finds behind the couch.

CHAPTER 49 / 49 Discussion

Chicago Trip, Glenn Beck Critique and Outro

Adam Curry prepares for a trip to Chicago to observe the teacher strike firsthand. The hosts critique Glenn Beck's focus on survivalism and "selling seeds," contrasting it with their own analytical approach. The episode concludes with a reminder to support the show and a sign-off from Austin and Silicon Valley.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· chicago· glenn beck· seeds

2:30:49 He also owns the biggest newspaper in Israel, I'm reliably informed. That's not making him any money, that's a money loser. Of course it's losing money, of course. It's tips, I'm telling you. It's what his hookers get tucked in their underwear. That alone is $10 billion for Shelly Adelson. You don't believe me? I actually believe it. Alright. Hey Johnny boy! It's good talking to you as always man, I do enjoy it. Always pleasure. I love you man always enlightening you do you you want today show with all that stuff at the beginning? It was fun. I think you got some good clips you got You know all the bullcrap that was out there that the public love us from us this shows that they're being lied to left and right if they really Depressing but we look at it from a positive perspective and when you watch these other shows Like you know Glenn Beck's now on the air and all they do is sell food and tell you to hide in a hole yeah, we don't do that because

2:31:51 If you actually listen to these news stories, if somebody wanted to get you, you could hide in a hole all year long. It's not going to do you any good. It didn't save Saddam Hussein. Nope. So we don't try to sell you food. Old food, packaged, and seeds. And seeds? Yeah, we're selling you seeds. Hey everybody, buy a seed from us. Buy seeds from us. Buy seeds. You're gonna need seeds. I think so. Heirloom seeds. And a water filter, which I actually do have. That's not a bad idea. People in Austin, they fluoridate the water here. Alright everybody, buy some seeds and go to Dvorak.org slash NA for your storable donation.

2:32:40 And we'll be back Thursday. I will be in Chicago for the show, so that should be very interesting. But it'll be same time, same damn bat channel coming to you from the capital of the drone star state here in Austin, Texas in the morning everybody. My name is Adam Curry. And I hope while you're in Chicago you check out on the check this student strike out and talk to a few people. Sure. And from Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll be back on Thursday right here on No Agenda. Do you bring your mother to The Best Podcast in the Universe?