Episode 435 · Thursday, 16 August 2012

Hillary Doesn't Sweat

A $10 billion pipeline deal reshapes the Syrian conflict while the hosts navigate technical glitches, mortgage fraud, and the curious lack of perspiration from the Secretary of State.

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About this episode

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak broadcast from Moab, Utah, to dissect a $10 billion natural gas pipeline deal involving Syria, Iran, and Iraq that threatens NATO energy dominance. The hosts analyze Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta’s warnings regarding the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps training militias, framing the Syrian conflict as a proxy war over the Russian-owned port of Tartus. State Department spokesperson Victoria Nuland’s recent admissions suggest U.S. intervention remains contingent on oil collateral rather than humanitarian concerns.

Secondary developments include Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi ousting Field Marshal Tantawi in a strategic counter-coup and the USS Porter’s collision with a Japanese tanker near the Strait of Hormuz. Israeli Ambassador Michael Oren has signaled a closing window for diplomacy with Iran, while the Department of Justice investigates a school-to-prison pipeline in Meridian, Mississippi. In the private sector, the Carlyle Group’s $3.3 billion acquisition of Getty Images raises questions about future copyright enforcement, and Standard Chartered Bank’s $340 million settlement for laundering Iranian funds is characterized as a regulatory shakedown. John C. Dvorak also details his personal legal battle with Bank of America over MERS mortgage fraud in Washington state.

Distinctive moments include a humorous analysis of a Condé Nast Traveler report claiming Hillary Clinton does not sweat, fueling jokes about David Icke’s reptilian theories. The hosts also mock the London 2012 Olympics closing ceremonies and a jet skier who successfully breached JFK Airport security by walking across active runways. Justin Hill and other executive producers provide the financial backbone for this tour-stop broadcast from the Arches National Park region.


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CHAPTER 01 / 43 Discussion

Arches National Park, Stargate Theories, Moab 4G Connectivity

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the show from Moab, Utah, during the Hot Pockets 2009 tour. They discuss the technical challenges of streaming over a 4G connection for the first time. The conversation shifts to the unique rock formations of Arches National Park and a humorous discussion regarding local legends of stargates and radio signals.

arches national park· moab· utah· stargates· 4g network· hot pockets tour

00:00 Adam and Mickey broke, which I can't refute. And they show your pathetic little trailer. It's Thursday August 16th 2012 time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 435 This is no agenda of the Arches National Park where there's lots of Stargates. From the great state of Utah in the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley we're streaming is The Future Of Television. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill on air! Yeah it's The Future Of Everything...it's The Future Of Radio For those who are listening to the podcast we just spent oh i don't know about 20 minutes trying to connect to the stream

00:50 Uh, from Moab, Utah where we are on 4G for the first time during the Hot Pockets 2009 tour and it's been kind of challenging for me today getting that all set up. Yeah! So what is Moab? Sounds like an acronym for more old a whole no mass massive ordinance in the morning sergeant Fred massive ordnance atomic bomb or whatever now Moab Utah is famous what's it famous for its famous for its amazing rock formations here in the national parks

01:34 There's a lot of neat rock formations in this country. This is where they have the arches, surely you've seen... Oh the arches! The arches are Moab? Yeah Those arches are dynamite They're stargates ya know Oh yeah did you walk through it and end up someplace else? Yeah I walked through it and ended on the other side In Moab Yeah, yeah in the morning to you John C. Dvorak In the morning to you Adam Curry in the morning at all ships at sea all boots on the ground All subs and the water and all feet in the air And of course all of the people on the other side of the Stargate This is The No Agenda Podcast The best podcast in the universe some say then we agree

02:13 Are you beaming into the Stargate? Because I'll tell you this, if you watch the old show, Stargate they could somehow send a radio signal into the hole and then the other side could barely get... Did he hear me? Yeah. You're breaking up! How did they do that how does that happen? I have no idea. Sounds like bullcrap to me. Well, it could be. But we were in the National Park yesterday driving around. Actually yesterday was reasonably nice only about 92 degrees which for the desert is great. Today of course it won't be so cool I'm locked in the sin bin We've got the air conditioner off and kept as cool as possible And it's 1022 am here So by the time this show is over I will be a melted ice cream cone basically

CHAPTER 03 / 43 Discussion

Salt Lake City Meetup, LDS Faith, White Horse Prophecy

A meetup in Salt Lake City leads to a discussion about the Latter-day Saints (LDS) faith and the "White Horse Prophecy" attributed to Joseph Smith. The prophecy suggests the U.S. Constitution will one day hang by a thread and be saved by a Mormon. The hosts analyze Mitt Romney and Jon Huntsman through this lens and discuss the LDS genealogical database used for posthumous baptisms.

salt lake city· lds· mormonism· joseph smith· white horse prophecy· mitt romney

08:14 Starter kits for daily source codes. I'm just gonna fill it up with some extra stuff So we were cruising on down to Salt Lake City playing all of that it was very very cool Salt Lake City where of course, we'd been to Layton stayed there with with Mike now We went to Justin Peck's house and this was a very young meetup actually young a lot of young people came by. What is the young person? I'd say 20s most people in their 20's maybe if you in there early through actually Mike came, I know he's not twenty but my came down from Leighton and he came to this meetup as well and it was that was actually really good I mean I learned a lot about the Mormon faith or as we say here in these parts... Wait a minute let me get this straight

09:12 So you were in Utah and you ran into some Mormons? Well, we call them LDS John is how we classify that here. We? Yes! What happened to you?! We here in Utah... And there were a few LDS which stands for latter-day saints A couple of LDS at the meetup I think everyone had been raised LDS and it's very interesting this uh... this this latter-day saints they they basically are constitutionalist who believe in god yet says about right and that in fact i'm sure you've heard of the white horse prophecy uh... no really oh haha i was waiting for you to go ahead and then he will grab attention yeah that's bull crap all right now you can look up on the book of knowledge ship or credit a bunch of nasty notes expect it would be that you have heard of that is bill krap

10:12 Okay, the one that is both. Thank you the White House prophecy I'm reading from the book of knowledge white house that white horse Sorry The White Horse prophecy is a statement purported to have been made in 1814 by Joseph Smith jr The founder of the latter-day saint movement regarding the future of the Latter Day Saints Which are the the og Mormons? the original and United States of America the Latter-Day Saints according to the prophecy would go to the Rocky Mountains and be a great and mighty people And here it comes. He identified that the white horse described in the Revelation of John, the prophecy predicts that the United States Constitution will one day hang like a thread and will be saved by the efforts of the White Horse in the White House That would be an LDS ie a Mormon in the White House

11:02 and you cannot deny... It doesn't sound like it's gonna be this Mormon. You cannot deny that the coincidence is quite great! Well Romney is Greek for white horse Oh really? Is that true? No, no I just made that up. That's a funny idea though you can throw that into conversation I'm sure and get some attention So let me think guys I've been listening to Romney at I'm in my head, i'm listening to Romney right now when he was in the debates and he was debating Ron Paul and some of the others that were there. It was one of the early debates where he defended the use of torture thinking it was a great idea! There's nothing about torture in the constitution

11:53 And I would think cruel and unusual punishment would be in there. Which seems like torture is that if you ask me. Hey man, come on! We already discussed this. Waterboarding's not torture it's enhanced interrogation technique So he's all for this... so I'm thinking this guy probably ate the white horse. I think someone messed up and it should have been Huntsman That's probably what happened? Huntsman would be the way, he makes more sense as a white horse. Well then maybe the constitution... And he actually has a better background as LDS than I think Romney does. I think Huntsman will yeah, Huntsman would have been good and you know Huntsman would have been a good vice presidential candidate but unfortunately you can see the problem there

12:40 Yeah, Brian and the Mormon in this is a whole bunch of them. Screw em! Well I think actually that in the overall conversation the mainstream media... The actual LDS conversation hasn't really been covered no one's really talking about what latter-day saints are what they stand for also found out a lot about the database and understand the database now big database they got everybody's in? So what about it okay so the reason why they have the database Is to track obviously ancestry and lineage because if you're LDS Marriage is for eternity. So it's forever and ever and ever And the idea is know that whole baptism thing that you brought up how you can be baptized before years ago, right? No It wasn't it was just a year ago I think but the whole seems like yeah You can baptize what they baptized whether they'd baptized Hitler as the dead. Yes. Yeah baptize the dead so

13:35 is so they can keep track of you for these baptisms and to make sure everybody, eventually is on board with the program. Didn't we discuss this or you weren't paying attention? I didn't know that's what the database was for though. Yeah, course. Anyway Kevin who was there who was LDS it sounds like you have Asperger's or something like that Hey man I'm LDS Oh I am so sorry Are you taking medication for that He said that one of his wishes in life is to baptize me. Yeah, tell him to just do it right now! That's what I said! Grab him now and do it! Get the holy water on man! Throw him into drink!

CHAPTER 04 / 43 Discussion

Olympic Closing Ceremonies, Zombie Virus Theory, Pedo Bear

The hosts briefly review the closing ceremonies of the London 2012 Olympics. They mention a conspiracy theory from the Salt Lake City meetup suggesting Olympic athletes were infected with a "zombie virus" to spread globally. There is also a humorous mention of a "Pedo Bear" mascot appearing to hug athletes during the event.

2012 olympics· london· rio de janeiro· zombie virus· pedo bear· mascots

14:21 Anyway, that was great. It was who wasn't now with some Jewish guy that was I forgot what it was word somebody baptized some famous Jewish guy it was a bit there's a big fuss about this I think is one of the stories we covered out I would instead water under the bridge considering what's going on now yes that is true and that isn't there's I was kind of surprised by two things. A, how much I was able to get done on the 4G connection here because there's no Wi-Fi to speak off And and just how much is is actually going on that we are aware of I mean by the way Did you watch the closing ceremony of the Olympics? I was kind of counting on you to do that. No, oh, I didn't even know when it was I did I missed it but I was only short I understood wasn't anything to it said they kind of premiered the Rio bullcrap I thought they had

15:15 They were like hugging, they had the mascots or some pedo bear hugging all the athletes as they got on. There was a pedo bear hugging all of the athletes? That's what I heard! Oh, I missed it... One of the theories that the Salt Lake City meetup was The zombie virus was given to each one of the Olympic athletes and so now they're going back to their own countries and propagating their formula. Zombie virus... Yeah that is a reasonable thesis I'm glad these meetups are so productive. You're just jealous you're not there, that we only have your head on a stick

15:52 Which people do want to buy apparently. This is a premium item that we're looking at here Yeah, well let's get ahead this actually the right size and it needs the top on it You got me dude but you look like wearing a flat-top haircut from 1956 Well your little frayed around the edges From now from the overuse if people licking you people holding up against their crotch wonder I feel wet at night Heyo! In The Morning Alright, so we did have one executive producer with the meetup donation. So I think we should thank right off the bat Well, okay well you do have one on this spreadsheet too Yeah well luckily because yeah I was looking at the spreadsheet and it didn't look good No this is a very very low worst...yeah this is one of the worst donation weeks We've had for probably a year

CHAPTER 05 / 43 Discussion

Executive Producer Donations, Justin Hill, Eponymous

Justin Hill from Provo, Utah, is credited as an Executive Producer for a $333.33 donation, sharing a story about his history with the show and a personal rivalry with Justin Peck. Another donation from Eponymous in Queensland is acknowledged. The hosts emphasize the importance of listener support during the slow August donation period.

justin hill· provo· utah· eponymous· queensland· listener supported

16:47 Well, there you go. What a great idea this Hot Pockets Tour is really helping with the participation. So Jack Mormon Justin Hill from Provo Utah donated $333.33 and had a note accompanying his donation Hey Adam & John, I've been a listener since I heard Adam on the Adam Carolla show three years ago I couldn't believe there was a guy on this show talking about how our country is broke AND Michael Jackson might have been murdered Also how his podcast is listener supported I fell in love with the no agenda show after my first listen. I need a quick deducing because they haven't donated since episode 333 Since I need to get my knighthood by the end of this year, I'm donating $333 and 33 cents here at The Meetup I've been propagating the formula every chance I get by making friends families and employees Listened to the shows while in my truck

17:41 Two years ago I punched Justin Peck in the mouth, he was our host and now here we are at his house. I need to call Eric The Bucket Filler McGinnis out as a douchebag. I punched him in the mouth two years ago and he still hasn't donated. I need a hot milf callout from my wife Ashley who is about to have our third human resource any second now, in fact it's due today Would like to get a little kid shut up slave followed by a two-to-the-head love the show and all that you guys do So little kids shut up two to the head and a milf. So let's do the You've got karma, so thank you very much J. R Hill executive producer of episode 435 of The No Agenda Show also known as the best podcast in the universe And sir eponymous in

18:36 Beachmere, Queensland. I've already pronounced some other way 269 please call me eponymous in the morning and congratulations Adam and Mickey what a show you turned in for my first donation 428 what a great EP credit for my resume! I just had thrown a few more shekels while the money lasts to keep the best podcast in any universe going could I get it two to the head Tudor they had Hey Citizen, Karma combo for myself and all listeners so we can keep donations coming. Yeah so well let's hope it helps. Hey citizen! You've got karma. There was a dead citizen by the road... And that's it

19:21 Yeah, that's it. I would like people to go to Dvorak.org slash NA channel, dvorak dot com slash NH no agenda show dot com, nogenination dot com and click on the donation button we have to do a little better hopefully we will on Sunday but again you know not to make excuses for the listeners but i think lot of them aren't listening they're It's August. This is the only show where we apologize that no one's listening, how does that work? Hi welcome to the program we apologize you're the only person in the world listening and by the way... The best podcast in the universe! Dvorak dot org slash n-a-o

20:01 And a special thanks to Martin JJ for last episodes arts on episode 434 the palindrome show We highly appreciate all the art that all of our artists hand in no agenda Art generator comm of course if you were not able to donate But you are listening, then you could always try this which is you know propagating the formula perhaps Our formula is this we hit people in the mouth. I Come on kid, do it again. Shut up! Hey... Shut up! Shut Up! Shut up! Triple play? Hey you're rapping it. You're like DJing it. Hey Robata how ya doing? DJ AC on the turntables here The Wheels of Steel I did have another thought and this may sound crazy but I've been investigating being a write-in candidate for the general election

CHAPTER 06 / 43 Discussion

Curry-Dvorak 2012, Write-In Candidates, Cabinet Appointments

Adam Curry proposes a write-in campaign for the 2012 general election with himself as President and Dvorak as Vice President. They discuss the legality of write-in stickers, citing Lisa Murkowski's success in Alaska. The proposed "No Agenda" cabinet includes Ron Paul for Treasury, Judge Napolitano for Justice, Ted Nugent for Defense, and Hillary Clinton for State.

write-in candidate· lisa murkowski· ron paul· judge napolitano· ted nugent· hillary clinton

21:11 Yeah. And it's very possible, turns out. It's not hard at all in fact you are by law in many states allowed to print stickers so people won't write down the wrong name and they just put the sticker into the slots of that your guaranteed being counted and if you look at history a lot of very well-known presidents have become president by being written I was kind of surprised. Well, the senator from Alaska was a write-in candidate. The woman...I can't remember her name. Let me give you the list Herbert Hoover won the...well this is primaries he won the Massachusetts presidential primary on write ins Franklin D Roosevelt won the New Jersey presidential primary let's see if anyone actually one president

22:07 No. But it can be done! The senator from Alaska, that woman who you can look up... She was rousted by the Tea Party under some scambola. Lisa Murkowski? Yeah, Murkowski she was railroaded out of her out of the office essentially as the Republican nominee and they brand some douchebag literally yeah and against a Democrat and she made a big fuss about it because she's very well liked senator in Alaska by both parties

22:49 write-in campaign and ended up putting her back in, even though they had to sue because somebody was spelling her name wrong because she's got a long name that can spell within an hour. And it was I think of a black eye to the Republican Party along there's been like number of these that have been kind These scams, these people they pulled. There's one I was in there...I'm trying to think of what it was a couple years ago up in the uh... Well here is what I was thinking Here's the reason why I was thinking It's worth a try First of all I think we're pretty sure Wait wait let us back back back back What's worth a try? Being writing for what where In the general election You could be running for president Yes! We've already discussed that I would be President you'd be Vice-President

23:42 Bear with me for a second. The reason why this is prime now we know that neither the Republicans or the Democrats want to win Right? Come on, you can't backpedal on the theory. I'm all over it already. So neither the Democrats or Republicans want to win Now we have a prime situation where i believe the turnout for the vote is going to be at an all-time low people don't care But on the other hand, where these debates happen on CNN and MSNBC. And they'll have a couple of one or two of them on the big networks but not as many people are watching... We are the best podcast in universe we have some people listening

24:26 We have at least one person every single state who can go and fill out the paperwork. In some cases you only have to register your paperwork one day before the general election, so most of it's in September or October so that's totally possible but think about the beauty of it now where the president has now signed into law that they're showing a change in the Constitution an actual constitutional change that there will no longer be senatorial hearings and affirmation hearings for the president's cabinet. So I'm thinking what an opportunity! We just go like, hey you know Republicans Democrats you don't want to win let us win and then we bring in like...we have Ron Paul as our

25:20 Secretary of the Treasury, we bring in Judge Napolitano to run justice. Can you imagine how awesome our cabinet would be? Whatever happened to Judge Napolitano? Talk about a guy who's been railroaded! That's what I mean but it'll be perfect and then... We promise a couple things one is we won't actually live in the White House were gonna build a container structure on the lawn where you and I shall live And we do most of our, you know... We just do a podcast. We've already discussed that part You know that's how we run policy and just everything that is unconstitutional we just veto it Just exactly like Cesar Chavez or not Cesar Chavez but the other Chavez in Venezuela Caesar's Palace! Alright well I think you should keep going ahead with this scheme Well if hey listen would you will be my vice president won't you?

26:15 Yeah, why not? I could use the money. The health benefits are worth it alone Can you imagine how... and oh and by the way, I commit we will cut back on staff I shall fly Air Force One myself And uh, and the helicopter So we don't need anyone for that And there's a whole bunch of good things We could do let me make the White House the people's house You know just it's a rave non-stop rave everyone can come in just rave and we're living in the containers on the lawn And it's just, it's very simple. Sounds like the future of the country if you ask me! Vote for the no agenda party all constitution no agenda Curry-Dvorak 2012 write us in and just help me with one thing who would be Secretary of State? Hillary Clinton She is good. Just for the yucks. She IS good isn't she? She's running things anyway I'm just saying...I think this a valid shot right now this could be our year

27:19 Because no one wants to run it. Well, it's looking more and more like that as time goes by... Anyway if you guys want to start a writing campaign we will of course support that Oh yeah here is Bobby Eden for Secretary Of State I don't know she has enough experience Whoa! In the morning Right And we'll bring in Leo Laporte as the CIO This would be a great cabinet How about defense? Who would run defense for us. I gotta get someone good. Oh, let me think who'd be good... There's a million gags here that i can't think of any offensive to cut me off guard. But I'm kind of serious! Yeah no sure you are Ted Nugent. Ooh, Ted Nugent is perfect! Good catch absolutely! Bruce Schneider, Sean Schneier from NSA. Ted Nugent, come on! Perfect! Ted the nuge boy we have no problems

CHAPTER 07 / 43 Discussion

Barack Obama, American Dream Definition, Economic Bargain

President Barack Obama's speech in Iowa is analyzed for its definition of the American Dream. The hosts compare historical definitions from 1931 to Obama's current "basic bargain" rhetoric. They criticize the shift from a dream of prosperity to a "deal" focused on simply paying bills and accumulating education debt.

barack obama· iowa· american dream· james truslow adams· middle class· education debt

28:26 Alright then, so maybe while we're on the presidential tip we should listen to our president. Our current president who's party does not want him to win He was in Iowa and he gave us once again I'm always very happy to hear this he gave us the definition of The American Dream And I would like to just corroborate that. It's going to be good! Because of course the Republican Party obviously want the same thing and believe that is the dream as well, otherwise they would refute this time and time again so... Yeah they have refused to re- yes let's stop everybody right now and mention this we have

29:10 caught this meme early on, probably two years ago and we've ridden it into the ground and we know for a fact that this is the perfect handle for the Republican Party to latch onto. And they refuse too because...and I believe you're probably right! They think the same way So let me read from the book of knowledge, The American Dream is a national ethos of the United States. A set of ideals in which freedom includes the opportunity for prosperity and success and upward social mobility achieved through hard work

29:46 In the definition of the American Dream by James Truslow Adams in 1931, quote, Life should be better and richer and fuller for everyone with opportunity for each according to ability or achievement regardless of social class or circumstances of birth. The idea of the American dream is rooted in the United States Declaration of Independence which proclaims that all men are created equal and that they are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights Does that sound like the American dream to you, John C. Dvorak? It's closer than anything else I've heard. That we needed to restore the basic bargain... First of all it's a bargain now! It's no longer a dream! It's a bargain?! What are we doing? Are we in somewhere in some shopping mall in the Middle East? Hey hey hey! Mustafa has a bargain for you come on over! ...that made this country great. The basic deal

30:39 that created the greatest middle class. It's a deal now! And the most prosperous economy the world has ever known. Ever known? And it's a simple bargain, it says if you work hard your work should be rewarded If you act responsibly and put in enough effort You should be able to find a job that pays the bills A job that pays the bills? Yes Have a home you can call your own Count on health care when you get sick. Wow, wow that's a new one put away enough to retire with dignity and respect Ah yeah it's the just getting by meme ladies and gentlemen That's right And most of all give your kids

31:27 an education that allows them to dream even bigger than you did and do even better that you did. That's the American promise! That's the American Dream I'm sorry, i have to respectfully disagree Mr President... ...that is not the American Dream! That is not the promise So to summarize, the American dream according to this guy is that you work hard and get a job and then you get paid enough to pay the bills. And then you have kids that pretty much we think outside of the box more than what you do but they probably do the same thing. They can go into debt by going in some phony baloney school. That's kind of the American problem. Yeah because the government made it so you can't really go to school anymore without going into debt

CHAPTER 08 / 43 Discussion

Obama Script Flubs, By Hook or By Crook Etymology

The hosts mock a verbal slip by President Obama regarding manufacturing job growth since the Great Depression. They also deconstruct his use of the phrase "by hook or by crook," exploring its 14th-century origins related to theft and perjury. The segment ends with travel updates for upcoming meetups in Ouray and Albuquerque.

barack obama· etymology· manufacturing jobs· great depression· ouray· albuquerque

32:18 Now this of course was scripted for him, which means that it is the messaging of his parte. And just to prove that its scripted lets listen to what we always love a little flub in the script its always funny to listen too. Some workers lost their jobs they went back to community college got retrained and now got a new job small businesses kept there doors open by hook or by crook By the way What does that mean? By hook or by crook. Which means they were dishonorable? They were doing something illegal is what that means. They were cheating, by hook or by crook! I actually looked up the etymology of by hooker and by crook. Let's see... The earliest ship building days or something like that 14th century John Gowers confession Confessio Amantis with

33:15 HEP, which means hook and what with crook they by false witness and perjury make her Meister. In other words yeah by stealing and by lying that's how they did it of course that's how we have to do it Yeah with all these government regulations And so slowly We've seen four-and-a-half million new jobs created half a million new manufacturing jobs the most since The Great Depression uh most since the 1990s What an idiot! The most since the Great Depression. How do you make that mistake? It's not on the script, it's not a thing you could flub... That's not a flub He's on auto-spot mode. That's something in your mind Of course because thats all he has been saying You know its like the worst depression since..the worst economic downfall since the great depression and then is like we created more jobs since the great depression Thats about what you did

34:15 Just during the Great Depression very good Douche so anyway, so I think that and by the way when we go When we do our media as president and vice-president. We're gonna be playing these clips. We're gonna Go on TV shows it let me just play a little clip for you And we'll play these because we won't let the media decide what we're gonna Do we're going to do that? Well just do our podcast That's that's the way it works Well, I'm very disappointed in the media. Really? Oh hold on a second! News flash! John's disappointed in the media everybody and this just in... John C. Dvorak disappointed in media film at 11 Yeah anyway it's depressing so I guess they tried to bust down the doors that are you any more than anymore travel news uh besides that we're going to Ouray Colorado

35:15 After this... Yeah, you're gonna be in Albuquerque on Saturday night I understand. We got the big meet up in Albuquerque yes By the way there's a lot of people that show up at these meet ups and they all pose for these photos Yes and it is quite fun And we all talk and listen then eat and drink Then we are all merry Is everyone married? No certainly not Mike stayed him in Layton I think he's very eligible bachelor 43, got a good gig Not on Facebook. He's got an arsenal. So why don't you explain what a Jack Mormon is? You said it, you used the word A Jack Mormon? You said Jack Mormon No that was in the letter from J.R Hill I dunno what that means, I dunno what Jack Mormons means It means a guy who isn't really in church anymore but he doesn't have any bitches about them Right okay well that makes sense Last member Yeah, formerly known as LDS Yeah whatever

CHAPTER 09 / 43 Discussion

Julian Assange, Ecuadorian Embassy, Andrea Davidson Conspiracy

The standoff at the Ecuadorian embassy in London is discussed, with the hosts questioning why the UK is so intent on extraditing Julian Assange. They explore a theory involving Andrea Davidson, an intelligence advisor with evidence of UK arms dealings with Saddam Hussein, who may be seeking refuge in the same embassy.

julian assange· ecuador· london· andrea davidson· david kelly· iraq inquiry

36:15 Okay, so I'm waiting for you to tell me how disappointed you are in the media and for me to listen. Well i'm watching this thing You know online and watching that they're gonna bust into the Ecuadorian embassy apparently last night Yeah even if you sent me a rare text message saying oh They're gonna the the bridge or yeah They were surrounding the place and they had a bunch of and then they decided against it or you know I don't know what they're thinking but they had the place around and then the Occupy London people came in it was all being streamed online so i say well let's go to CNN because CNN likes a get right down there, you know. They are going have live cameras

36:54 And there wasn't one even a mention of this thing except on a couple for news broadcasts that this was going on. I mean it could have been an international incident in the making but they weren't even interested in covering it so these streams were much better than the crap that they're bringing in from Syria. Yeah, the stream actually didn't work when I tried to look at it. It got too many people watching and it crapped out. Of course! So what do you make of this? Alright, give us your thoughts. No I want to know what you think? Clearly it makes no sense that the British government finds it so important to extradite Julia Assange... Julia... Julia Assange... Yeah, Julia, I think is good. Julia Assange... They don't even have formal charges never been filed Their excuse for getting him was that he now jumped bail So now he's a wanted fugitive

37:46 and uh... this was going to be bad but essentially he has political asylum in the Ecuadorian embassy so I'm thinking it can only be one of two things. The first rabbit hole i went down is what's up with Ecuador? Now besides the fact that no one really likes Ecuador particularly because they're taking a lot of China money these days, China is investing a lot I looked around and I was actually helped by James DeBurka, James Burkha I think one of our producers in the UK so if you were to what What other reason could there be to go and say oh we've got to get Julian Assange? Because he has political asylum in the embassy. What if it turned out that maybe there was someone else who was in the Embassy that they were really after well That's a good theory and they were just using Assange well It turns out this woman Andrea Davidson

38:47 Who was an intelligence in advisor to the trade and industry select committee on arms in Iraq? And also gave evidence to the initial Scott inquiry. This is about the weapons of mass destruction now What happened to the other guy who think his name was dr.. David Kelly, I think you have a sound effect Yeah, I think it would be He slit his wrist with a potato knife and bled to death in the tent, in the field. In the woods by himself because he was depressed So she was supposed to testify at this most recent...

39:28 tribunal, the one where Blair was at and everything. And she didn't show up in fact her house was raided and she apparently had tons of documents and all kinds of proof that not only was there no weapons of mass destruction but that the UK was actually involved in a lot of real dirty dealing with supplying weapons to Saddam Hussein including nuclear and biological weapons And so it appears that she took refuge in the Ecuadorian ambassador and that's what they're really after. They need to shut her up, but they're playing it under the guise of we need Julia Assange How about this for an idea?

40:13 Julia Assange is actually an agent for one of the maybe MI6 or someone and he went specifically to hide in the Ecuadorian embassy to create this kind of brouhaha. Yeah, well that would make sense because... Well he's certainly a CIA asset. Why Ecuador? Thank you! Yeah I mean you could choose so many That's a good one So that expands on it That makes a lot of sense. So maybe he was also there to try and get some info, but essentially you know sit tight He also did an interview with the... He may have actually been there to assassinate her But he forgot his knife! He forgot is dangerous penis The potato knife! Damn I forgot the potato knife It worked so well on David Kelly

41:04 So I think we keep our eyes on that. This woman, Andrea Davidson not a lot of information she actually did sue Google to have some documents on that because someone had posted a lot of her documents on a blogger's blog which i have a couple screenshots from as well and she wanted to get those off because she was feared for life And she tried to sue Google to make that happen. Of course, at that point Google's like no this is all good we can keep all this We shouldn't be throwing that off So she does apparently exist and she was supposed to be the star witness At the Chilcot inquiry That's the Iraq inquiry but was never called Despite the fact that she did give evidence of the previous

41:56 Iraq inquiry and get my something's fishy about this action that took place last night since they didn't really storm the place or anything right I think they either planted something or they put some cameras up or they it was a it was a misdirection So let's make a big scene over here by the front door and we'll sneak up this pole and stick a camera up here, I think there is something going on. Because it was lots of people, lots of action until 3 in the morning when the Occupy people came in to bitch. Don't look over here! Nothing to see here! Of course none of this was covered at all... That's the part that's a little unfortunate

42:39 Because, you know if they're there to make a big stink to arrest Julia then you'd think that would cover that. But we'll see I mean maybe they got caught off guard maybe they didn't know what's going on maybe they'll start covering it today Maybe. Yeah, that's right they had the super lotto millionaire I know they got that guy. The guy who was a super millionaire he won almost 200 million dollars or 140 million euros or something and he says He said, here's what kills me about these guys. They win this huge amount of money so you know we're not gonna change our lifestyle we're gonna keep the store open and of course that's inviting all kinds

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Lottery Winners, No Agenda Inheritance Dream

A discussion about a recent lottery winner who claimed his life wouldn't change leads to a story about a dream where the No Agenda show inherited $10 million. The hosts conclude that the show's charm comes from being "broke" and living the "American Promise" of just getting by.

lottery· wealth· inheritance· dream· american promise

43:21 kidnappers and whatever. Nothing is going to change so I'm thinking, hey wait a minute why did you even enter the lottery in the first place for? If not gonna change... don't you enter this thing so you make a bunch of money and tell everyone to screw themselves on leave? It makes no sense to me that you'd enter and then you win and say I didn't want to win. Or what? What's wrong with... Can you explain that to me?" Well, I had a dream two nights ago- They just want to throw money away and they never really hoped to win! I had a dream two nights ago which is along these lines and maybe we can answer this together so strangely enough i had a dream where someone had left in their will ten million dollars to the No Agenda show And I recall in this dream you and I having a conversation like

44:12 Yeah, screw it. Screw that show! Let's take the money and run. But then we decided to do it anyway so now we'll just continue to do it We might get another 10 million It was a good dream. It was really nice I was like ah the pressure is off You know, it was really nice. I think part of the charm of this show is that we have no money? Yeah, they were broke! Remember our bargain here is The American Promise We are living the American dream of just getting by ladies and gentlemen That's why we are called... THE BEST PODCAST IN THE UNIVERSE So unless you got something pressing, I have a few items that i'd like to kind of get to. Well let me see if there's anything important...I mean I do have some items, I've got quite a few. Yeah roll with me baby! You have totally different stuff than what I have so thats good. Well then I can run mine..go run yours and ill come up with something as we go along. No, no, I want to- I would like to- you don't think I have alot of filler? Oh its all filler, okay. No when you say something I gotta topper. Oh well why dont you top me now big boy

CHAPTER 11 / 43 Discussion

Syrian MiG Shot Down, Fighter Pilot Requirements

The hosts analyze footage of a Syrian MiG allegedly shot down by rebels with light weaponry. They express skepticism regarding the captured pilot's appearance, noting he lacks a flight suit and has a beard. Dvorak explains that fighter pilots cannot have facial hair due to oxygen mask seal requirements and fire hazards.

syria· mig-23· propaganda· fighter pilot· oxygen safety· beards

45:20 Well, play the MiG pilot show. It's my favorite. Oh! Apparently they shot down a MiG somehow In Syria right? Yeah in Syria in fact I have two clips on this one is the guy analyzing it. MiG pilot down there's another one look for the other ones Syrians bring down MiGs? Syrians bring down MiGs Play that first and this is the analysis which says they couldn't have brought him down with a machine gun like they claim Huge propaganda We showed the footage to an expert, a former British Army intelligence officer. The armament that would be used to bring down this type of aircraft would indicate a serious step up from the light weapons we've seen previously in the Syrian conflict. Yeah, I agree it seems highly unlikely that an AK-47 like weapon is going to bring down an aircraft... Is that what they were shooting at it with? Because I didn't see any video. They were shooting at it with an AK!

46:21 So they have the pilot, they captured the pilot and I just loved the way they present this on...I think it was the BBC or no actually it was one of the other services maybe Euronews whatever. It was like their very skeptical about this guy, this old man who is piloting a plane Syrian rebels are taking maximum advantage. In the constant propaganda war, they've released this video purporting to show the captured pilot a colonel though he appears rather old for fighter pilot and there is no sign of flying suit He's got no flying suit, the guy looks like he is 60 and he has a beard. Can you pull one of those masks on with the beard? Hold on a second! You cannot have a beard or mustache if you are flying supersonic, if you are highly pressurized with oxygen because it can actually light your mustache or beard on fire

47:21 Yeah. You cannot have that as a fighter pilot to the best of my knowledge oxygen can't ignite. I was under the impression you can get a good seal anyway with the mask. Possibly, but i know guys who've had mustaches and they've had them ignite because of the oxygen it's bull crap It's total bullcrap. And the guy is old and he has no flight suit, he was just casually driving the thing I guess. Bull crap! Alright well then let's stay on Syria because I figured it out John...I figured it out yep I've figured out Syria okay good about time cuz I haven't figured it all right so but well so two clips helped lead me down the path of first one I was Panetta

CHAPTER 12 / 43 Discussion

Leon Panetta, Iranian Involvement in Syria, Militia Training

Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta's briefing on Iranian influence in Syria is reviewed. Panetta expresses "deep concern" over the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) training militias to support the Assad regime. The hosts interpret his language as a scripted warning that Iran is playing its "role" at the wrong time.

leon panetta· iran· irgc· syria· pentagon· militia

48:13 Pete Panetta, who is our Secretary of Defense soon to be followed by Ted Nugent when Dvorak Curry 2012 kicks in and he's talking about Syria And of course he's got to propagate, you know there were 48 Iranian guys who were arrested. So he answers that with some chilling testimony. This is the Pentagon briefing by the way I was able to catch all these on the replays on the web. uh... this guy that nobody's talking about the same iranian so he's already and you know it's already a stupid question earlier this month by local syrian army in damascus are in fact higher gc members um what information do you have about this how uh... what were they doing there how deep does uranium involvement runs in this conflict well you know without

49:11 Having specific information that the individuals involved in this particular situation, it is obvious to both General Dempsey and I that Iran is playing a larger role in Syria. In many ways not only in terms of the IRGC but in terms of assistance, training there's now an indication that they're trying to develop or trying to train a militia within Syria to be able to fight on behalf of the regime. So we are seeing

50:00 a growing presence by Iran and that is notice how he says it right here on of deep concern to us that that's taking place deep concern and you know we we do not think that That Iran ought to be playing that role at this moment in time. I thought that was interesting It's not time for them to do this don't play that role script You're not ready yet, you're not up yet This is not your time to play your role by that it's dangerous that its adding to the killing if you could get hurt Playing and you can get hurt If you skip ahead in the script Iran that's going on in Syria

50:41 and that it tries to bolster a regime that we think ultimately is going to come down. But all its gonna wind up doing frankly, is to prolong the misery of the Syrian people so I guess our hope is is that Iran thinks better about how much they do want to get involved, but in any event we've got to make sure that Iran does not exercise that kind of influence in Syria. and try to determine the future of the Syrians, Syrian people. The Syrian people oughta determine their future not Iran. Okay so there's a couple things here first of all and this is kind of backgrounder it'll become important later on when I unfold what has happened

51:30 So Iran is obviously important, but they shouldn't be playing their role right now. And I believe that Panetta and Lucifer Clippity-clop are all sincere when they say that Syria should be running their own show and that they should have you know their own democratically elected leaders of course They will be the right kind of democratically elected leaders But that's obvious so that's just a little backgrounder then we have Victoria Newland She is the shill who speaks on behalf of the State Department. By the way, when we're in the White House We're not going to have some spokes-hole! We are just gonna go up there and talk! We aren't gonna answer the press, we aren't gonna have some spokes hole every single day... WE'RE GONNA DO IT So Matt, our buddy Matt, the guy who has been placed in the school benches at the State Department Who gets no credit

CHAPTER 13 / 43 Discussion

Victoria Nuland, Syrian Oil Wealth, Marshall Plan

State Department spokesperson Victoria Nuland is questioned by reporter Matt Lee regarding the lack of military intervention in Syria compared to Libya or Iraq. Nuland claims Syria lacks the "vast natural wealth" of Iraq, leading the hosts to conclude that the U.S. interest is strictly tied to a country's ability to pay for its own rebuilding via oil collateral.

victoria nuland· state department· syria· iraq· oil· rebuilding

52:21 He hears her say something and comes back to it. So first I've edited this together First you hear her saying something very interesting about Syria, and then he catches her And of course This is audio so you can't see your face But she's very unhappy with what? He's what he's caught in what he's drilling around the country being destroyed fast and furious in a way rapidly during deliberations with other countries. Would it be a good idea to have something akin to the Marshall Plan? This is another journalist asking about Syria, you know what are we doing? We're only sending him water and blankets, not sending many guns should put some kind of plan in place which would be doing for the day after because everybody talks about that they happen Is that something that you can already discuss or you have discussed with rich oil countries in the Gulf

53:12 Syria is not a rock. It doesn't have that great, vast natural wealth and depending upon how long this goes on we are already seeing a lot of the economic underpinnings of Syria's prosperity at risk from this fighting so there is going to have be serious rebuilding job that will be Syrian-led obviously but the international community has to be ready to support so were beginning to think about those things So when I heard that, I'm like wow that's interesting. Syria ain't worth anything! That's the takeaway I got from it. It was like well you know they've go no oil, they've got no gas...it's not really worth our trouble to do anything Matt picks up on this

53:55 So I was intrigued by your statement of fact a few minutes ago where you said Syria is not Iraq, it doesn't have the great natural wealth that Iraq does. I presume you're talking about oil? Yeah, yeah, it has some natural wealth but its not swimming in its ability to... Would you say thats one of the reasons why your not doing anything to intervene because Syria doesn't have the amount that either Iraq or Libya had. There are no connections between these two things? You yourself brought up the distinction, and I just want to make sure that oil is not the reason you're not doing anything militarily to help the Syrian people My point with regard to Iraq was

54:37 Syria is a country that in the rebuilding phase is likely to want, need and request significant international economic support because it doesn't have the same kind of natural benefits that some of these others. QUESTIONS FROM THE PRESS Sorry, from your experience Iraq didn't need any help rebuilding? MS. NULAND No, of course they did but they didn't They mostly took loans, they mostly took technical support. So you're not intending to suggest that going in militarily, intervening in a country with oil is in the U.S. interest but not intervening in a country that doesn't have oil isn't an U.S. interest? That's not what you mean? There is no connection between those two things. Our decisions about how to support the opposition are based on the litmus test that the Secretary has put out

55:29 put out very clearly in Istanbul and which we've been saying all along, we want to ensure that what we do support the opposition actually hastens the day rather than increasing the suffering. Please? Please shut up Matt! Ixnay on the oil ske dude so he nails it He nails it that we are not... And she of course backpedals and says all kinds bull crap but you know she didn't say oh well Syria can take out loans no because they have no collateral Iraq had the collateral And of course that's all economic hitman stuff anyway, because the loans are just going straight into Western companies. So I'm like okay what is so important about Syria that they have to make all this brouhaha

CHAPTER 14 / 43 Discussion

Islamic Pipeline Deal, Turkey-Syria Relations, Kurdish Geopolitics

The hosts present a theory that the Syrian conflict is driven by a $10 billion natural gas pipeline deal signed between Syria, Iran, and Iraq. This "Islamic Pipeline" would bypass Turkey and terminate at the Russian-owned port of Tartus. They argue that Turkey and NATO are supporting the uprising to ensure energy routes remain under their control via a pro-Western Kurdish government.

bashar al-assad· turkey· iran· iraq· tartus· natural gas· pipelines

56:17 Yet they're not good and and here's a prediction there will be no no fly zone There will be no boots on the ground We are not going to go in there The only thing that has to happen is we have to have the right Kurds running the show. So here's where we move over to The Kurds in northern Iraq who are you know, right now? We have Turkey Iraq or Iran Oh, yeah, Iraq sorry Iraq. They are killing the Kurds, the wrong... the Kurds who are not on board with the program so I think you and i discussed that Assad must have done something wrong in order for all of this to happen he then we had he had to do something really screwed it up and he did

57:09 But it wasn't against the United States of America, Gitmo Nation states directly. It was against their longtime ally Turkey! So Turkey of course at the moment is in the hot bird seat they are the pass-through country for all oil and natural gas pipelines into Europe. Europe of course is the market. I want to interrupt you with a clip? Oh please FSA, which is the Free Syrian Army in a nutshell who's financing them. And the West no longer seems to have faith in the political opposition so they're now braced for a military solution The outcome of street by street fighting between the regime and rebel fighters But in Syria there are scores of different groups some unconnected Some rebels apparently fighting for democracy others jihadists

57:58 Mostly under the banner of the Free Syrian Army, the FSA which owes loyalty to those paying and arming them from Qatar Saudi Arabia and Turkey. Bing bing bing! Exactly so turkey is of course is the proxy for this but Turkey and Syria were bestest buddies they were really good we know some of this because we discussed it on our pipeline episode but they were the bestest buddies because of course The Arab gas pipeline coming up from Libya Egypt all the routing around Israel Going up into Turkey. So that was part one, but Syria is actually the crossroads of energy Because they have pipelines coming in known as these Islamic pipeline the IPC from Iraq

58:51 But one year ago, two months before the Arab Spring in Syria Assad signed a deal and this is the key part. He signed a deal, a $10 billion natural gas pipeline deal with Iran and Iraq and instead of routing this So we have the one going from south to north, that's the Arab gas pipeline. And then the one coming in from east to west which Turkey was okay with because they wanted to connect those points in places like Homs and Aleppo so it comes in from the bottom comes in from the right It connects and all goes up into Turkey into Europe

59:40 But Assad then decided with this $10 billion deal that this pipeline wasn't going to go up, it was going to continue going to the left and west right into Tartus. And they were gonna pipe it up through Cyprus or whatever else they wanted to do there we're going and they were routing around Turkey so after this deal is announced in this thing has to be completed by 2015 so it's already being built of course who owns Tartus? Who owns the port there? That would be the Russians So they get their deal Two months after that, all of a sudden we have the uprising because it's Turkey who said oh really? You're gonna go and screw us. I don't think so! And this oil and this gas is supposed to be coming from Kirkuk This is where the Kurds are playing a role So the whole idea

1:00:30 And by the way, the Kurdish population makes up 9% of Syria is Kurd. But you have different types of Kurds and this is where it gets very complicated for me because this is like Sunni and Shia that has a lot to do with it but they want the Kurds who are on board with the program to be running the show in Syria so they don't pipe it on out to Tardis where the Ruskies pick it up or whoever else can sell it too They want it to be at the connection point So this is what is going on. No one gives a crap about Syria, not a single crap! They got nothing like four billion dollars in oil a year no one cares This is all about the Islamic pipeline deal that Assad signed and they're stopping that

1:01:14 And of course, it's very important for a country like Turkey and for Europe actually to not just be reliant upon all the Russian natural gas. They needed an alternative because we've already got the North Stream, the South Stream and the Nabucco or whatever it is called. Right! We have already seen that... Because the Russians are playing their hand too soon by ruining Europe Exactly! By pulling the plug and even having trouble killing all of the Polish government to get their way with this, with their pipelines. So that's why NATO and Europe are on board because they also don't want to be dependent upon the Russians They wanna make sure they have that independent oil but we don't actually run northern Iraq The Kurds run northern Iraq at least when it comes to pipeline security

1:02:01 So that's where the rub is and they want to make sure that the pipelines continue, it's about 30% extra. I mean there is a huge amount of gas and oil coming in It has to be connected in Aleppo and home to go up And not out to the left which was the deal that Russians had The Russians are sitting there going like we got them on front end and back end We've got him on top and bottom That's what happening That why you're not seeing any reports on Turkey killing Kurds In Northern Iraq Because they're just killing the ones that are in the way. So, the ultimate outcome will be... The right Kurdish government taking over Syria No one cares about these people! No one gives a shit about these people It's all about these pipelines

1:02:47 All the oil companies, the only future they have left is service industry. And of course this ties into Iran and the reason why they're not supposed to be in this soon it's because it's fine! We want to have your nationalized gas and oil coming in but we wanted to route the way we wanted to route Now of course there is another faction who think that's the last bastion, right? We already got Iraq so we might as well go and get Iran and control all their natural resources. I think they're kind of afraid to do that So they really don't want Iran messing around with it because you know...we'll do the deal with you! We'll take your oil & gas just let us route it properly and shut up already! Go away

1:03:29 That's what's going on. No boots on the ground in Syria no one gives a crap about the people It's all about routing the oil and gas upwards Surprise surprise That was another pipeline episode. Yeah, but it's this is what's going on that makes nothing but sense because there's no real any other issues I mean except for the fact that I and Feinstein in a casual conversation said she thinks they should have a no-fly zone all i've been hearing is No! No we're not gonna do if no flies We're just not gonna do it And then there's just a lot of saber rattling and we're not gonna do anything and the British are getting

1:04:09 No, we can't send them anything. We had a clip last show or the show before where the British foreign minister says we're not... we're sending him you know cell phones. Oh oh! While your on that hold on a second I got another clip from Panetta And he's talking about the cell phones. This is actually about self-radicalization in Afghanistan, just to show you that these people are all actors and all boneheads! Listen to what he's saying... listen to this. Mr Secretary there was a Pentagon report in the spring that said most of these green on blue incidents had to do more with personal grudges. Basically, Americans maybe disrespecting Afghans and it led to bloodshed... Green on blue by the way this is a new one green on blue violence. Yeah let's just talk about that They said very little Taliban infiltration you mentioned the Taliban are we seeing a change now? We're seeing more Taliban infiltration with these incidents You know in talking with John Allen it's clear that

CHAPTER 15 / 43 Discussion

Green on Blue Violence, Self-Radicalization via Cell Phones

Leon Panetta discusses "green on blue" attacks in Afghanistan, where Afghan forces turn on NATO troops. Panetta attributes some of these incidents to "self-radicalization" caused by individuals using cell phones to tune into extremist stations. The hosts mock the idea that cell phones are the primary driver of insider attacks.

afghanistan· green on blue· leon panetta· cell phones· radicalization· nato

1:03:29 That's what's going on. No boots on the ground in Syria no one gives a crap about the people It's all about routing the oil and gas upwards Surprise surprise That was another pipeline episode. Yeah, but it's this is what's going on that makes nothing but sense because there's no real any other issues I mean except for the fact that I and Feinstein in a casual conversation said she thinks they should have a no-fly zone all i've been hearing is No! No we're not gonna do if no flies We're just not gonna do it And then there's just a lot of saber rattling and we're not gonna do anything and the British are getting

1:04:09 No, we can't send them anything. We had a clip last show or the show before where the British foreign minister says we're not... we're sending him you know cell phones. Oh oh! While your on that hold on a second I got another clip from Panetta And he's talking about the cell phones. This is actually about self-radicalization in Afghanistan, just to show you that these people are all actors and all boneheads! Listen to what he's saying... listen to this. Mr Secretary there was a Pentagon report in the spring that said most of these green on blue incidents had to do more with personal grudges. Basically, Americans maybe disrespecting Afghans and it led to bloodshed... Green on blue by the way this is a new one green on blue violence. Yeah let's just talk about that They said very little Taliban infiltration you mentioned the Taliban are we seeing a change now? We're seeing more Taliban infiltration with these incidents You know in talking with John Allen it's clear that

1:05:12 You know, there's kind of no one source that is producing these kinds of attacks. Some of it are individuals who for one reason or another are upset and suddenly take it out we've seen that here in the United States. Really? Oftentimes Secondly, there is a self-radicalization that sometimes takes place within it. So the person may not be a member of the Taliban but suddenly is self radicalized they're tuning in these cell phones to tune into various stations that provide incentives for that type of thing really

CHAPTER 16 / 43 Discussion

Haqqani Network, ISI Support, Indian Media Reports

Reports from Indian media link the Haqqani Network to the Pakistani ISI, alleging the group operates as a criminal enterprise involved in real estate and import-export. The hosts note that Hillary Clinton has a legal deadline to designate the Haqqani Network as a Foreign Terrorist Organization (FTO), which the U.S. has been hesitant to do.

haqqani network· isi· pakistan· india· terrorism· hillary clinton

1:05:56 So they're taking a cell phone and tuning it into a station that radicalizes people or that kind of thing. Really? Really, really! Well I have three clips one can that finishes with another Panetta clip because they're not talking about what the indie if you didn't as you know i've been spending most my time listening to foreign news broadcast from India, Korea Vietnam boring. Yes this is a very good service you're providing so the Indians blame the entire thing on the Pakistani ISI and the fact that they have been sponsoring and they have a reason for this. Now what are they blaming?

1:06:44 They're blaming ISI, the Pakistani Intelligence CIA and the Haqqani Network. And I have two clips when of course we don't talk about that Haqqani network but apparently the Haqqani network according to the Indians, of course in a Pakistani listening this podcast to two of them. Say, oh the Indians blame everything on us! Well in this case they do. Play Haqqani Network Part 1 for the opening and by the way this is from Indian news so they play music and they cornball it up its worse than anything we've ever produced but its...but the information's interesting. Enough all the details

1:07:20 Pakistan is in the line of fire once again. A latest report by a US think tank reveals the link between Haqqani Network and the Pakistani spy agency ISI. The startling report said that over the past three decades, the Haqqanis have penetrated key business sectors including import-export, transport, real estate and construction in Afghanistan, Pakistan, the Arab Gulf and beyond. As ISI chief lieutenant general, Zaheerul Islam held crucial talks with his CIA counterpart. A damning report by a prestigious US military academy has said that the dreaded Haqqani network receives financial and logistic support from the Pakistani military.

1:08:09 Financial records for the network obtained by the US military demonstrate that the group has long obtained a bulk of its logistical supplies in Pakistan and operates across the country, not just in tribal areas. Before you go on this is interesting I didn't get a clip of it but one other questions in the State Department briefing is that the Secretary of State Lucifer Clippity-Clop Hilton, Lucifer Hilton She has 30 days by law to deem the Haqqani Network a foreign terrorist organization. So they're not actually recognized by us at this moment as an FTO Well it sounds like from the description given by Indians that this is more like a bunch of gangsters because they're in if you listen, import-export, real estate drug dealers They are everywhere

1:09:05 and so now we have a little more analysis in part two of this clip and then we find that when Panetta is asked about any the stuff he did or the error national treasure discusses they never it's like this verboten to talk about these guys and as far as up Pakistani security establishment was concerned for too long it had believed that once the USA pulls out of Afghanistan they would be appointed as their viceroys look after Afghanistan when they realize that there are hopes were being belied The Pakistani security establishment instigated Haqqani Network to target Western citizens, particularly the US soldiers and citizens. And as a result you can see there has been a spurt in the killing of US troops, the Western troops, as well as Western citizens in Afghanistan over the last one year. I think that the U.S saw through it and

1:09:55 In light of this, that Admiral Mike Mullen made his famous statement that we know the Haqqani Network is involved. I think you're right! I think they are just thugs and we're probably doing business with them with arms and drug deals Yeah, i think so too but meanwhile killing us left and right in some other more recent incidents seem to be stem from this. So meanwhile... We hear Panetta, and I have a Panetta clip which is Coach Panetta, discussing something in some way that I haven't yet to grasp and I wanted to ask if you've ever heard this sort of terminology used before. Obviously the number casualties are going to increase

CHAPTER 17 / 43 Discussion

Fighting Season, International Criminal Court, Nuclear Scientist Assassinations

Leon Panetta uses the term "fighting season" to describe the increase in Afghan casualties, which the hosts compare to a television broadcast schedule. Meanwhile, families of assassinated Iranian nuclear scientists are seeking justice through the International Criminal Court, alleging involvement by the U.S., UK, and Israel.

fighting season· green on blue· icc· iran· israel· assassinations

1:10:40 The past week also brought five more attacks on US and NATO troops by men in Afghan army or police uniforms. Another growing trend, at least seven Americans were killed Secretary Panetta outlined preventive steps being taken to try to reverse the trend Our enemies have attempted to undermine the trust between the coalition and Afghan forces and in particular They have tried to take credit for a number of so-called green on blue or insider attacks that have taken place this fighting season. Yeah, this is the green on blue meme again!

1:11:16 Yeah, but he said they finished it with this fighting season. Is this the NFL? No! It's like... Are we in a baseball league or what's the deal is this fighting season? It's for rating it's like the television season because you know when we have no new shows we have the fighting season. It's the fighting season This green on blue by the way, this is gonna happen here in America. Green on blue is army against police and this what's gonna happen in America so be ready for more of this meme to be propagated. Green on Blue. Yeah I like that term. During the fighting season Hey CNN! It's the fighting season don't worry about your ratings we got something for you baby We've got a new season of fighting

1:12:00 So anyway, so it appears as if the Connie Network is the real key players here. If you listen to the Indians and their deconstruction And then if you kind of read between the lines and what the Americans are saying in all this latest trend They're trying to reverse It sounds like you know we're just were screwed then because nobody wants to talk about any of this well Why would we? It's the fighting season. We're screwed, man! The ratings up! The fighting season! The International Criminal Court is being tested and of course when we have some douche knuckle from You know, the Balkans on trial then it's headline news Angelina Jolie shows up but when the US and Israel and the UK are being hauled before the court you don't hear much about it. The families for five Iranian nuclear scientists say Israel Great Britain in the U.S assassinated their loved ones those families are now asking Iran's legal system to pursue their complaint through international courts

CHAPTER 18 / 43 Discussion

USS Porter Collision, Michael Oren, Iran Strike Threats

The USS Porter, a Navy destroyer, collided with a Japanese oil tanker near the Strait of Hormuz. Following this, Israeli Ambassador Michael Oren appeared on MSNBC to argue that the window for diplomacy with Iran is closing in "weeks, not months." The hosts criticize Oren's "skin in the game" rhetoric and his claim that Israel is "right next door" to Iran.

uss porter· strait of hormuz· michael oren· israel· iran· msnbc

1:13:00 Iran claims the attacks were part of a covert mission by Israel and the West to sabotage its nuclear program. The US and Britain have denied any involvement in the murders, Israel has not commented on them. We're staying mum! we're not saying anything so this led me to a clip Which is a meme fest of Iran. This is the problem you see Panetta doesn't want Iran meddling in Syria But you know that we've got Israel making waves and and Iran as it's a big problem because not everyone is clearly playing by the same script this is MSNBC, and this is a lead-in and and though and this the segue We get the segway we get from this

1:13:41 I guess battleship that crashed into a Japanese tanker in Australia. No, it was the tanker that hit the side of the boat Who? Yeah who? I thought the Japanese hit us Mmm, I don't know That's not really relevant to the story Yes, no anyway go on The point is where is their radar? Or someone looking you know something like that would say hey hey boss Hey boss there's this big ship over there We're gonna want to turn right The segue into introducing the Israeli ambassador to the United States. A meme fest! A Navy destroyer has docked in Dubai after colliding with a Japanese oil tanker near the Strait of Hormuz The incident tore at 10 foot long hole in the side of USS Porter No injuries or spills were reported on either vessel but the Navy is investigating just why this destroyer turned directly into the larger vessel The accident takes on critical, takes a critical warship out of action

1:14:37 It takes a critical warship out of action just as the US is deployed protectively in the area. Oh and listen to the flubs Israel were to take action military action against Iran And at that point is the window closing on diplomacy with Iran before Israel were to launch a preventive strike pre-act Preactive strike against Tehran's nuclear facility a three active strike Pre-active strike against Abraham. It's a pre active strike, okay So first of all one of our battleships people are actually paid with serious money by the way compared to what we make Oh

1:15:15 So, this battleship is out of commission. So already we can't really stop anything from happening you see? This is a... It was a cruiser wasn't it? A cruiser or destroyer? Battleship! She said battleship. Battleship! That's not a battleship that's not a battleship she just don't want to fight. She said battleship What was the name of it again? I don't know. I'll look it up while you're playing. Now listen to this guy Israeli media are reporting today that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is nearing a decision on military action His deputy foreign minister said Sunday that Tehran should be given weeks not months There's that meme again, weeks not months! To stop its nuclear program Joining me now is Michael Oren Israel's ambassador to the United States

1:16:01 And you are the author of a very widely noted op-ed in The Wall Street Journal in recent weeks, Time is Short for Iran Diplomacy. Was that it? Did you read this op-ed? No. Oh, wow! Yeah... More than saber-rattling. And you made that point very effectively of why do you believe the time is short and could there be military action in weeks not months? First of all good afternoon Andrew always good to see you. Well we've now had five months of diplomacy attempts to get Iran to negotiate an end to its nuclear program they haven't worked

1:16:38 Well, they have a nuclear program but it's not to make weapons. It is to build nuclear energy the IAEA has said as much We've had several now years of sanctions against Iran The sanctions haven't worked according to the International Atomic Energy Agency the Iranian nuclear program is actually accelerating. Yeah, it's accelerating but not for weapons that's exactly what the agency says! It's not stopping now keep in mind that no country has a greater stake than Israel then resolving the Iranian nuclear threat No country has a greater stake oh why? By diplomatic means and we have most skin in the game Andrea Skin in the game We're right next door You're NOT right next door! Skin in the game He says were right next door

1:17:25 Look at the map people! We have Saudi Arabia, we've got Iraq. I mean it's thousands of miles you're not right next door That's a lie. And Iranian leaders, Ahmadinejad the chief of the Iranian military have just recently reiterated their goal which is the annihilation of the state of Israel. They did not... Annihilation? Really when was this?! The annihilation of the state of Israel! This guys this is nothing to see here thing that they put on these idiots with these idiots on MSNBC How this guy got his thing into the New York Times is some sort of a scam to get probably part of that Panetta thing, to tell the Iranians back off on the Syrian thing because they're in the game. And so skin in the game as a key word there and not doing it... This is what we were going to make stink I think this whole thing is just nothing to see here bull crap thing. This guy's a stooge! Who was this guy again? This is the Israeli ambassador to America

CHAPTER 19 / 43 Discussion

Technical Difficulties, Michael Oren Biography, Arleigh Burke Destroyers

The show experiences technical issues with Dvorak's audio, leading to a discussion about Skype drivers and M-Audio hardware. They correct a media report calling the USS Porter a "battleship," noting it is an Arleigh Burke-class destroyer. They also examine Michael Oren's background as an American-born Israeli historian.

skype· m-audio· michael oren· uss porter· arleigh burke· battleship

1:18:28 So, I believe... This guy was Israeli? No he's the Israeli ambassador. He is an American! You said he is the Israeli Ambassador to America Yes, yes he is the Israeli Ambassador to America but he works for Israel and he... Yeah, he's a CIA agent clearly. Yeah obviously yeah I You are you are your helium in again? It's a did you download up a video or something do anything? Ask the kids ask the kids what they're doing it you need to upgrade your Skype man

1:19:08 We have to be very realistic about this. Diplomacy has not succeeded, sanctions have not succeeded we have to keep very seriously all of those options on the table That's right This I think is just a... It's probably only to help Romney win is what I would think and I don't think there will be anything going on between Israel and Iran Yeah, let's reconnect because it I can't take you serious. I love you man. I can't take this Hey just fixed it I did I think so talk hello testing three no you didn't fix it all right yeah, I'll call you back Damn kids they're bit torrent. Let's try better yeah, that's better okay the USS No, no

1:20:10 What yeah, no it's helium still this is shape-shifting on your on your router or something you know this never happens on any with anybody But you yeah well listen. I don't know what it is okay? Okay? Well let's just yeah Let's let it relax for a second come back again. I think you have to actually upgrade your skype but okay, I'll call you back again and while that's taking place so I see that Oh, he's gonna call me. Maybe that'll help, who knows? Yeah... No- no you've gotta reboot your Skype and you have to upgrade your Skype! Okay I'll go do that now. Yeah, go upgrade your Skype NOW. Please. Please. Okay okay. Okay okay okay. Uhh... I've only asked five times

1:21:17 I really like your, now that you're back. I really like your new Skype picture Yeah! That's the real me You also changed your profile picture while you were at it? Like everyone was waiting and John is like... I think i'll change my profile picture No no when you go through the setup process It demands you to send some photo But let me find a better one I like this one. Yeah, I bet you would kind of shave the bit off your you look like McCain So anyway the USS Porter is an Arleigh Burke class destroyer? I don't know where anyone's got the idea that it was a battleship. I don't think we have any battleships left and You know it's one of those guided missile ships It's got a bunch of missiles on it. You know they shoot

1:22:07 So if they said battleship on that report, it's egregious. They get paid like millions of dollars to do these shows. Oh please she is an idiot Michael Oren is the Israeli ambassador to America He was born in 1955 American-born Israeli historian and the Israeli ambassador to United States so he was born in America And I'm looking at his wiki page It does not have his height So this guy's a total obvious spook. Let's see what else he has done... He is not even, you know, he is not even a local! He is like an American... He is not a local? That's ridiculous! He is not even a local?! Military service, 1979 joined the Israeli Defense Forces paratrooper in the 82 Lebanon War His unit was caught in a Syrian ambush Oh, he has got a bone to pick

CHAPTER 20 / 43 Discussion

Egypt Military Shakeup, Mohamed Morsi, Gaza Tunnels

Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi ousted top military leaders, including Field Marshal Tantawi, in what the hosts describe as a counter-coup. Morsi has since moved military forces into the Sinai Peninsula to close smuggling tunnels into the Gaza Strip, an action the hosts suggest is being done with Israeli and U.S. approval.

mohamed morsi· field marshal tantawi· egypt· gaza strip· sinai peninsula· tunnels

1:23:08 Academic career, Hebrew University. Okay... Visiting professor Harvard and Yale. Oh we got both sides Georgetown University School of Foreign Service By the way! Speaking of schooling Something changed in Egypt which is pretty funny Here it is. This is what changed in Egypt. On Egypt's state television, the president spokesman announced a series of changes to the military's top brass but most important was the departure this man Field Marshal Tantawi and his number two General Sami Anan As leaders at the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces they took over the reins have power when the former President Hosni Mubarak was ousted last year

1:23:56 and it seemed they were reluctant to let go after the civilian president Mohamed Morsi was elected in June. Now Mr Morsi is asserting his authority The President also cancelled a constitutional declaration previously issued by the military which limited his powers So this new guy, so this is basically a coup as they've kicked out the military who I think pretty much had uh... had the egyptian people's best interest at heart they kicked him out and they brought in a new guy to do that

1:24:32 who was educated at the American War College. Yeah, no almost every military top brass in Egypt is just a this is window dressing they moved out one American stooge and put it another which is fine I think by the way that the thing that's interesting to me about this Musri guy yeah is that he's gone into with the permissions of with permission of the Israelis He's gone into the demilitarized zone known as the Gaza Strip, which has been taken over by gangsters and apparently jihadists who want to get him out.

1:25:08 and he sent the military in there, I think it was one of the promises that this other guy wasn't going to go in the way he wanted too. And not only rousted all these jokers but filled all the apparently thousands of miles of tunnels that were in and out of Gaza into the Palestinian area. The... what do you call it? Anyway they do the Gaza Strip and what's West Bank? The West Bank. Yeah, well whatever where all the Palestinians have been holed up and they have to have tunnels going in and out I mean this is... sorry folks we're doing a show if i'm writing this I'd have all this stuff in front of me Tunnel land! So they went there and filled it with tunnel land And next thing you know uh you know the guy looks like he's working for us yeah you think

CHAPTER 21 / 43 Discussion

UN Human Rights Report on Syria, YouTube Evidence

The United Nations Human Rights Council released a 102-page report on war crimes in Syria. The hosts point out that the commission was denied access to the country and based its findings almost entirely on interviews with people outside Syria and unverified YouTube videos.

united nations· syria· war crimes· youtube· human rights council· evidence

1:25:55 Oh, I forgot to tell you. The United Nations Human Rights Council came out with another report on Syria? It's too funny! This is literally the funniest thing ever. So they interviewed over a thousand people about all these horrible crimes, war crimes that are taking place. And there's this little thing here... The lack of access significantly hampered the Commission's ability to fulfill its mandate. Its access to government officials and members of the armed and security forces were negligible. Importantly victims and witnesses inside the country could not be interviewed in person

1:26:35 He didn't interview anybody. They only interviewed people outside of Syria and the whole report is filled with little ditties like this, The commission reviewed videos of shelling in the following locations which appeared to be indiscriminate although neither the authenticity of the videos nor the target of the attack could be verified. They were looking at the YouTube videos and wrote a report about it John! What? The commission took note of video evidence emanating from Hama government in July 2012 indicating the use of cluster munitions. The photographs and video of bomblets could not be corroborated, the whole thing is based upon people who were not in Syria when they interviewed them and YouTube videos and they wrote a report 102 page report! Well I can do that

1:27:24 Okay, so it's the cyanide that cyanide area North Sinai in particular. Yeah which had the tunnels into the Gaza Strip area So they could funnel people in and out, and they were apparently moving a lot of weaponry through there because the Sinai is completely out of control. It was demilitarized And they... The Egyptian army was not supposed to go in there under any circumstances But they've been given a go-ahead Because their sealing off Gaza from Egypt They're filling up the tunnels Tunnels are done! Tunnel land is over Sinai region also known as tunnel land. I think we need to take this for a second and now back to real news The elites are all over the elite media. I was quite surprised first of all just what's that the headline? That's my headline

CHAPTER 22 / 43 Discussion

Female Elites in Fashion, Hillary Clinton Reptile Theory

Condoleezza Rice's NFL modeling debut and Chelsea Clinton's Vogue appearance are discussed. A Condé Nast Traveler article claiming Hillary Clinton "does not sweat" even in extreme heat leads the hosts to jokingly corroborate David Icke's theory that political elites are reptilian shape-shifters.

condoleezza rice· chelsea clinton· hillary clinton· reptile· sweat glands· david icke

1:28:20 First of all, Prince Philip is back in the hospital. I guess he needs more virgin blood So they're working on that but there were three elites three female elites in In fashion news this week first up. Yeah, this has been this and the latest thing going on Condoleezza Rice makes her debut as a fashion model for the NFL uh... fifteen years seven-year old is now posing for the newly revamped line of nfl apparel for women's for the new season yes but in his fighting season uh... called it's my team so that's very exciting but then we had chelsea clinton she's involved magazine which means a she her credits are building remember home at home on the dean he was also invoked magazine that gives you all the credits and not be an islamist or member of muslim brotherhood or sisterhood for that matter

1:29:12 Chelsea Clinton, if you read this article looks like she is indeed very interested in going into politics and comes across as a real shit. As far as I'm concerned, a latte drinking douche. She's from Stanford what do you expect? The funniest one was Condé Nast Traveler Did an entire piece on well So of course I read the whole Chelsea Clinton article and invoke But they hit something struck me very funny in the Hillary Condon ass traveler The title that that piece

1:29:58 Did you read it? Yeah, that's great. It was ridiculous! Where in the world is Hillary nine days with the most traveled Secretary of State in history what is the one big takeaway we get from this I don't know if you caught it there was a one big take away for you from this puff piece no I couldn't stand reading and probably stopped at second graph Hillary Clinton does not sweat No matter where she is, no matter what she's doing, no matter what he- Oh! Reptile. Hello everybody! In the morning Proof positive that she is a reptile She doesn't sweat She does not sweat Not here I'm reading from the article

1:30:37 Uh, one very intimate detail that most people still don't know about Hillary Clinton which I shall divulge. She does not sweat literally she does not even glow no matter how high the heat Not a drop nor a drip nor a bead Nor much as the faintest glisten can be detected anywhere about her person She's...a frickin' lizard! Now this is interesting because that explains why she likes to sleep on a rock. Oh my goodness! Very good, it even took me a second but I liked it. There's a pun in there somewhere...

1:31:16 So, uh... She's a reptile. That's funny! But wasn't it also Obama who wanted to... Reggie Love said that he couldn't stand how Obama wanted the heat up really high in the presidential limo in The Beast? These people are all... they're all reptiles David Icke was right they're lizard people How could...? Well thats what David Icke would say for sure. How can you be In her position and by the way with And she never sleeps either It seems This woman is on the move, but you know she she's got jet lag She it see you know. She must be nervous once in a while But particularly the heat of the countries that she goes and no No Sweat yeah in those countries because of the humidity and the rest of it or New York where she spends a lot Of time you get wet I don't care what your you can't soak yourself in enough antiperspirant Let me see if there's anything

1:32:13 Anyone else that we know who doesn't sweat. I find it, I find it disturbing! I think you're onto something here Let's see... wikianswers.com Do lizards sweat? No of course not Well, I don't know Lizards no they do not sweat Do snakes sweat? She could also just be a snake No, no they don't sweat Reptiles do not sweat They don't have sweat glands People normally sweat That's what keeps you cool You know, you sweat some moisture onto the top of the skin and then the evaporation of that moisture of the water cools the body down. I mean that's a simple air conditioning unit and that's why when we have real high humidity there is no evaporation that takes place because the humidity is maxed out so you can't evaporate the water and your miserable

1:33:09 So she has to be like miserable all the time. She must be miserable! She looks miserable, it's possible she is just miserable I can't sweat, i'm miserable dammit I can't sweat Wow there are a couple blog posts about this but very few mainstream media hasn't picked up on it It's so obvious Is this a medical condition we don't know about? No there isn't a medical condition Oh jeez There you go again Hello Uh, am I out? No you're not out. You just high again Oh that's because i went to this... okay You know it's these damned uh websites oh really It's the website and not your router perhaps or...? No the router has been reset its fine Well no it's not fine because your helium again well I don't know if this is a weird phenomenon why doesn't it just put me into AM mode like it used too I wonder if there's a way are you using a USB mic

1:34:11 Well, no I'm going through a... Of course everyone's using a USB mic. I'm not Oh really? How are you plugged in? I'm plugged into the microphone input The line input of a Windows machine Huh With what? What do you have- Dude! Have you seen this?! I am carrying around 500 pounds of gear I've got mixers, I've got compressor limiters Got tube amps and I have lines I have XLR to... I always been on a USB mic And it used to go AM He said fall back to a.m.. Remember now I'm falling into him boy, what's what is the mechanism causing this? I think maybe here's an idea Why don't you upgrade to Skype premium there is there such a thing yeah You can upgrade the Skype premium you pay Microsoft some money ah I'm leaving ya and I don't want to go through that again it'll change hopefully

CHAPTER 23 / 43 Discussion

JFK Security Breach, Jet Ski Incident, M-Audio Drivers

A jet skier whose vehicle stalled managed to swim to JFK Airport and walk across two runways undetected despite a $100 million security system. The segment transitions back to Dvorak's technical issues, identifying his M-Audio Fast Track USB interface as the cause of his "helium voice" on Skype.

jfk airport· port authority· security breach· jet ski· m-audio· skype

1:35:11 People like it. People seem to like it anyway so there you go confirmed proof, its a fact Hillary Clinton is a lizard keep your eye on her she might be shape shifting any minute now Alright, so what else we got? I got something very interesting that happened at JFK which i thought was kind of interesting. Let me play one of your clips first. What's that? Oh never mind you're on it. Play it. Port Authority is investigating how a jet skier managed to walk undetected through two runways climb an eight-foot fence and walk into a terminal at JFK Airport while wearing a bright yellow life jacket the 31 year old man's jetski stalled and he had to swim three miles to shore near the airport

1:36:03 He was charged with criminal trespass. The Port Authority called a meeting with the company that created its $100 million anti-terror system." There you go! Charged with criminal trespass? The guy was trying to get out of the water! Hundred million dollar security system... Here's an suggestion from the chat room, your sound card sampling rate gets switched by the browser probably due to an error in the sound card driver That's a possibility. Although I'm going into the USB port... Yeah But that could be, I can see that happening. I think they would have something to do-I'm gonna switch only using Chrome rather than uh... Why don't you- Firefox? Yeah no Fi-, well if you're using Firefox there are good chances it's the bane of everything It's really gotten bad Why don't just unplug your mic and plug it back in again maybe something cool will happen We got nothing to lose

1:37:04 I do it from the USB. It's a Dell dude! It really does slow down the pace of the show Hello? That's trying to boot it Yeah, don't do anything...it works What? Whatever you did it works now I unplugged the connection to the USB port and then I re-plugged in And it worked perfect Now at least we know what to do That pushes it toward the B thing The driver It's the browser Browser slash drive No no I'm not going through a sound card that can be the driver Okay

1:37:40 There's no... USB has no drivers. No, USB has drivers. Oh okay that's it What they're looking at.. Okay here is what the setup is So I plug in and its an M-Audio Fast Track which has drivers that run the USB port This is actually uh...I'm looking at Skype And it actually talked about M-Audio producing this problem Interesting Oh great Yeah Okay well you know how to fix it Yep ok good Easy fix Maybe you should get like a studio, like a real mic or something and invest the little money. You know we get some more donations than what we got this time maybe I'll be able to afford it but right now...you know..I can't. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda imagine all the people who could do that oh yeah that'd be fab! You're off key on that one

CHAPTER 24 / 43 Discussion

Listener Donations, Karma Requests, No Conflict Soundbite

The hosts read a series of donations and "karma" requests from listeners in San Diego, Saskatoon, and Australia. They attempt to find a specific soundbite of Hillary Clinton giggling to fulfill a donor's request but struggle with their soundboard organization. A mention of Al Sharpton's "no conflict" phrase is also made.

donations· karma· saskatoon· tijuana· al sharpton· hillary clinton

1:38:36 I just want to before we start thanking everybody, i do want to give one shout out for one of our donors a lesser donor Christina Ellet in San Diego because she has a douchebag callout. She wants some karma for her teaching position interview and she listens the show with her husband Lee Ellett who needs to be called out as a douche bag with his best friend Matt Farrell also Matt Farrell. Because I donated before them and i'm a girl. Yeah, exactly! And girls get preferential treatment send pictures

1:39:15 You'll send pictures me Nicholas Stowe Austin, Texas. You're he's waiting for you to get back. Yeah That's right dollars a few drops of gas to get your home donation number four towards my knighthood Thank you. Thank you mr.. Nick Michael suede in Warman Saskatchewan $100 greetings from the Paris of the prairies I thought Paris was Saskatoon no he isn't I've been a listener, it is. And it's...I've never been...I always wanted to go to Saskatoon so why don't you...Saskatoonies get a fund or something and come up there we can hang out Hangout at the cafes Yeah here's what you do You offer John a speaking gig and send him a ticket So the morning of he can go well I feel like going

1:40:03 I've been a listener for about a year and really have enjoyed the podcast, the first time donor. So I'd like to de-douching as well as a karma shot shot shot that helped me raise my three sons outside of the mainstream media farce. You've been de douched. You've got karma very good. That's how you educate your kids outside of the mainstream media farce, media farce. I liked that we're going to use the term Brandon Savoie in Silverdale, Washington 69-69. So we're keeping up there they're back on track after a close call very close call which I still kind of want to dispute but i'm letting you slide on this one Sir Oscar Nadelle and Takati California 69-69 He's uh he needs a scooter paint job karma shot okay You've got karma

1:41:02 Says he's actually in Tijuana and he knows himself as the romantic Hispanic. Yeah Jean-pierre Fisay facet say I think it's visit Visit we just call him visit around Ottawa, Ontario 6969 Donation requests good karma for my wife Val who is facing a challenging exam for her PhD Wow, all right. Well here comes some Give her a good one exam carma PhDs listening to no agenda of course she might not be your listener She's getting a PhD since you know these guys are losers now that I have a PhD I'm divorcing you with you you stupid show Listening to the search EQ 6969

1:41:55 ITM gen semi-drunk donation. I'm on my third, Manhattan semi drunk. Yeah, he's somebody drunk but he's not kind of drunks like a kind of semi drunk I'm gonna do it Texas style would talk to him at teeth I'm on my turkey you didn't are you can drink a lot and talk through your teeth and you still sound a little sober Crown special reserve sweet vermouth like to call my girlfriend for being a douchebag Drunk and not donating on my birthday 12 August. Also like to propose to her on the show, eventually I would however like some engagement karma even though i'm making her wait a bit. Until she donates! You've got karma Honey? I am not marrying you until you donate to No Gender Show

1:42:48 Stephen Nelson in Wheat Ridge, Colorado. Double nickels on the dime. Joseph Willis... Sir Joe Willis to you! Palm Bay Florida nice area 55 10 In the morning I'd like to send a birthday shout out to my brother We've got him on the list whose birthday is on Tuesday the 14th and if there's any karma left that like a science Science Karma love the show The science is in! Science Derek Bolley in New North Sydney and New South Wales Australia 5510, this is my yearly donation for my birthday on August 17th. Another year has passed but some things haven't changed Adam's on the road again with the lovely Mickey and hasn't left the house I also have an update of status from a friend and fellow listener Dave Bettany Still a douchebag! Keep up the great work Derek Bowley North Sydney Scott in Mount Vernon Maine Double nickels on the dime

1:43:51 I'm requesting karma from my wife, Catherine. She's interviewing for a job this week if she is successful I will exit the boner dome A.K.A poor house and enter the donor dome, a.k.a house full of hookers and blow. As a matter of fact if she gets the job I will enter knighthood as i'll be able to enter the society of no agenda knights in one fell swoop! The illustrious instanite donation of $1000! May god protect you both from the impending drone strike. Alright Job Karma it is coming your way. You've got karma William Bryant, one refers to a relation to William Jennings Bryant in Spartanburg South Carolina 5130. In the morning donating is addicting! Yeah we hope more people felt that way Congrats Sean congrats on five years here's two five more can I get a laughing Hillary with a 2 to the head in the middle no conflict? Whoa! I don't think you'll find no conflict

1:44:54 Uhhhhh... She just wants a chuckling Hillary. You don't have that as separate anymore, do you? I don't think i have uh well let me see uh... That's her giggling thing Yeah might have that uh hold on a second it's worth looking for I haven't no con-I think I can find No Confrict No I don't uh would be under Lucifer It's like its gotten so hard Like you look up Hillary and gotta get look under Clippity Clop See! You've got to look under the 8 for Hilary then you've gotta go down to Lucifer No, I uh... Maybe it's in our evergreens? Do we have a- We're gonna have to do a make good. Give him a karma shot and we'll get back to this one. Okay. You've got Karma. It's our first- Our first make good!

1:45:41 Which is a broadcasting term for people who screw up advertising and so it's kind of advertising I guess for him, for William, for Bill. What was uh... Who did No Conflict again? Who was that? That was that idiot MSNBC host they're paying money to Sharpton Oh, Al Sharpton? Yeah. Robert Kruger, Alijo Viejo California. Aliso Viejo I think $50. I just want to say a new listener of the show love it my Canadian friend Neil recommended this to me a liberal tax loving Canadian by the way Chris Lewinsky Sir Chris Lewinsky Sherwood Park Alberta $50 sir Jason Burke Richmond Texas $50

1:46:25 and uh... there's no real conflict! And Hillbilly, first time donor long-time boner for 50 bucks I'd like to call my buddy as a boner for not donating in awhile okay? What's his name? I don't know. DOOSHBAG! His name is Dooshbag Could I get some karma for this slave? Hope this helps getting Mustang Sally a whole 30 miles down the road. Which is about right, you guys are doing a great job and appreciate the analysis and deconstruction it's entertaining informative and helps with the workday keep up with good work. Right on! And last but not least Sir Mike Roster... Hold on, hold on, sorry don't step on the karmas

CHAPTER 25 / 43 Discussion

Meetup Producers, Rain Sticks, Dutch Tourists in Moab

Producers from the Twin Falls and Salt Lake City meetups are thanked. Adam describes receiving a hand-painted rain stick from a listener. He also notes that his current campground in Moab is filled with Dutch tourists who recognize him and Mickey, leading to potential coverage in the Dutch gossip press about their "broke" tour.

rick smith· justin peck· rain stick· moab· dutch tourists· hot pockets tour

1:47:05 And last but not least, Sir Mike Westerfield. $50 and that's our... Well I have a couple of Meetup donations. A couple of meet up donations So first of all we do put Rick Smith on the Associate Executive Producer list for hosting us in Twin Falls and a donation of one hundred dollars which we highly appreciate Salt Lake City Justin Peck associate executive producer and our host for the Meet Up uh... he would also like a deducing you've been d do they handle off one hundred dollars of course that jr and hill justin hill three thirty three dollars thirty cents as we said executive producer of the episode four hundred fifty-three kevin despain this span at one hundred dollars so thank you can use the year the lds who wants to baptize me then we had to sherry osborne uh... i'm in the drink

1:47:58 Sherry Osmond was there with her husband, Sherry. She gave us... actually I think you have to look her up on Facebook she gave us a hand-painted rain stick! I love these things! Oh that's the thing that makes all that racket? Yeah yeah Yeah, those are great. But it's hand-painted and she makes beautiful rains and masks and stuff She is friends with Miss Mickey on Facebook you can find her there I don't think she is selling them. Why not use Facebook? It's not for you that I'm saying that but we'll take a picture of it. It is a lovely piece of work And it may just bring rain Wouldn't be funny if it started raining now What do the rain sticks for? To make it rain

1:48:50 I think it's just a sound effect thing for the uh... Indians. African, or sorry Australian, I think it was an Australian Aborigine noise maker. No, I thought they had those other things. Didgeridoo Yeah didgeridoo And finally Brandon and Elizabeth Espinoza are both LDS very happy with the show They say thank you very much for not being a douche about LDS Which was nice. Gave us two silver dollars. You know, people are easily... a lot of people are douches about all these religions We're not we don't we're not douches about it Are we? No I think we're pretty good at that. Anybody said that specifically? Brandon gave us two silver dollars and his wife is a newlywed wife Elizabeth who is by the way hold on a second she is totally That's one mother I'd like to

1:49:41 Works for Goldman Sachs in Salt Lake City. Yeah, yeah She's really cute and she supports the trading desk uh-huh uh-huh so she wouldn't tell me anything Of course not. I'm not going to tell you douche knuckle anything So that is, thats it for our donations we were low We need help particularly in the dog days of summer When do the dog days end John because i can't wait for them to end so we can get back to Probably 5 shows from now maybe

1:50:18 Anyway, so we're not quite making rent on the sin bin $95 a day. I think we're doing about 150 dollars a day in gas between 150 and 250 dollars a day depending on how much We drive So where were not quite making and then of course you've got your camp your camping fees Which are 27 50 because we're Coa members? So we do get a deal You didn't join good neighbor Sam or whatever that other one is the competitor Sam's Club No, it's not Sam's Club. It was neighbor Sam or as good Sam what is it something the chat room knows good Sams? Yeah, Oh Koa campground there two operations are both they're equivalent Did you get the bumper sticker the little bumper stick you put on your truck says Koa I'm an asshole yeah that one This camp ground by the way is filled with Dutch people which is kind of funny too Wow yeah

1:51:16 It's Adam and Mickey! What are you doing here? Oh, you poor people. What is wrong? Adam and Mickey... You have no money? You can't stay in a hotel? What is that little thing your pulling? Oh it is very sad. DevorahS.org slash N-A-Z. We have a make good. So you're getting a lot of sympathy from your Dutch compatriots. You watch, there's gonna be pictures in the gossip press in Holland... Adam and Mickey broke! Which I can't refute! And they show that pathetic little trailer with all the writing on it This is a nightmare John It's a nightmare

CHAPTER 26 / 43 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony, PayPal Subscription Issues, Credit Card Bills

Jason Schrader is knighted following a $202 donation. The hosts address a listener's complaint about being unable to unsubscribe from a PayPal donation plan, explaining that most missed payments result in automatic cancellation. Dvorak's "pet peeve" is that people do not check their credit card statements closely enough.

knighthood· jason schrader· paypal· subscriptions· credit cards· pet peeve

1:52:04 Sir Jason Schrader, in the morning you should complete my... oh this was a make up we didn't read his note. You should complete my knighthood donation it went with $202 since it corresponds with the HCP code 202 which is for the request that's accepted but has not yet been fulfilled like that! That's a great Knight Donation isn't it? Requite 202 request accepted, but not yet fulfilled I've been signed up on the 3333 mothership pass plan But haven't received the ticket as of yet. Well now you don't it's only when we're taking off I Imagine is on the way soon, but can you make sure it gets here before the before? We leave please give a call out to Jimmy at free hollow books commas He's got me started on the program several years ago I do hold the distinction for being the first person mentioned on the show and

1:52:50 for using the challenge coin for its intended purpose and Jimmy you still owe me that beer please call out Jeff Shore as a douchebag Uhhhhhh... And a late congrats to Adam and Mickey on their nuptials. Wishing you all the best, it's been funny how at the beginning Adam was definitely the crackpot and John the buzzkill but over time John isn't knocking down as many of Adams theories anymore You're close to just being two crackpots Can you just play John C. DeVorek's pet peeve of the day jingle because it cracks me up every single time especially after John gets off on something We need more of that! Thanks for watching so I don't have too

1:53:27 John C. Devorah X pet peeve of the day I'm sorry, I'll do it you does a pre pet peeve. I might as well Well that have birthdays to do oh wait be no this still part donation segment Oh okay? Then I get to play it again good so so we had a guy right in and Adam course gets some Up at the about it and assuming that I made some error. I did not get uppity about anything You're a douche all I said WTF which says no, I said what people can't unsubscribe from PayPal WTF WTF for PayPal nut uppity towards you

1:54:07 Well, I took it the wrong way. You took it personally like a dick! This is why I don't want to talk to you outside of this show! You're always taking things the wrong way. Oh so are you? Yeah. So you just did because I was just kidding. Ah sure! Psych! See look see what happens when we deal with ya! So anyway, this guy writes in saying I don't know why you can't unsubscribe me. By the way people you can unsubscribe yourself from any of these programs and 90% of the time you've already been unsubscribed This guy wrote us complaining he wanted to get off the $4 a week plan He hasn't been contributing at nickel since February they dropped him because of one block missed payment

1:54:51 We've set it up so if you miss a payment, you're done. You're off but also have...You can set it up so well where they gonna hound you and hound you and hound until they find your new credit card number and then put you back on the payment plan or all of that. We avoided that because I don't like the idea because somebody wants to not donate for whatever reason they want unsubscribe It should be effortless in all yet is just pretty much it'll do it by itself Right and so meanwhile I'm thinking to myself over after the whole complaint deal was is anybody actually checking their credit card bills Yeah, he even called me vo to get a hold of us And they said well we can't help you and talk to Adam and John yeah But no no. I don't think people do check their credit card bills I guess not know So your did that lot of people out there think they're donating all right now good alert not donating anything because there's no

1:55:48 You know, they dropped you. They do this constantly! So what's the pet peeve? The pet peeve is uh... check your credit card bills! Sir GQ congratulates himself, of course he is not going to marry her since she didn't do a donation for his birthday that was on the 12th. Sir Joe Willis congratulates his brother Ryan who celebrated on the 14th and Derek Bawley congratulates himself celebrating tomorrow! Happy Birthday from all your buddies here at The No Agenda Show!

CHAPTER 28 / 43 Discussion

Radio 1 Jingle Ban, Chris Moyles, No Agenda Jingles

The BBC's Radio 1 has replaced Chris Moyles with Nick Grimshaw, who has reportedly banned "singing jingles." Adam Curry, a former radio professional, predicts the show will fail because sung jingles are essential for branding. They showcase several No Agenda jingles created by producer Jeff Smith as examples of effective audio branding.

radio 1· bbc· chris moyles· nick grimshaw· jingles· jeff smith

1:59:58 Two shows ago. What do you mean? 40 shows ago! We'll get links three weeks later Hey, this is really great have you read this I mean are you not listening to the program? You don't want to scare him off No but it's just like come on by the way radio one Has kicked out Chris Moyles He's no longer... Moyles? Moyles. Chris Moyles, the Chris Moyles show So they've kicked him out and they're bringing a new dude young hip he's got his hair crazy. Hair! Yeah always hair The Brian Brushwood of Radio One Nick Grimshaw what is this guy doing what is the big change he is making

2:00:52 No more singing jingles. I predict huge failure for this morning show This is a big mistake What yeah, so why because they want to freshen it up No more... Is that fresh without jingles? No, no. No more singing jingles So for instance like we have The best podcast in the universe That's a sung jingle You know that something you will remember and you'll be singing to yourself until you want blow your brains out Because it really really works This guy comes in and says No more singing jingles Radio Jingles It has to be like with just a logo sound or

2:01:36 Those are terrible. Especially on the radio, the swooshes... Nah! It's Radio 1! I am Nick Grimshaw soon to be out of a job because i killed the singing jingle. It's dumb it is so dumb. The dumbest thing ever singing jingles are gold I agree 100%. It was Jeff Smith first got hold of us after we had said no jingles. We had no jingles which is another track you can do. Then we got jingles because Smith said, what kind of jingles? And I remember when he went to two or three shows

2:02:15 I said, what jingles do you want? You make a list of the jingles you want. And then he said screw you two jerks! And then he made a bunch of jingles on his own which we use to this day. Which was this one. Remember he made that one. No didn't he make the opening for the show Uh, no that was Dave Fox at uh... Okay Fox came in later right? Z100 New York and done by uh.. No wait it was mixed by oh man Yung Pulet He mixed those so I had Dave Fox cut all the things and Yung Pulet Smith had a couple real early ones Well okay well he did In The Morning Yeah well he did In The Mornin' Bola Manana Zay Shambu Lema Tan Amoghen

2:03:06 and then he had this one for us I think no someone else did that one. No, that's not Smith. That is a great one though. The bird! There is nothing like the bird. The bird makes it work. The bird is the word. Um...no he did uh....this one. Don't look over here Nothing to see here. Look at that! I think thats' one of his right? Yeah you can tell he has got a distinctive style And this of course The science is in! Science! And of course the all-time classic. If you see something, say something... And those are just a few of the many jingles you will hear on this collection of No Agenda Jingles! Call now only $5 shipping and handling. Singing Jingles. So take that Radio One. Stupid. Idiots. Meanwhile

CHAPTER 29 / 43 Discussion

Mark Thompson to NYT, Reuters Hacking Excuse, Doug the Newsman

Outgoing BBC Director-General Mark Thompson is moving to the New York Times, which the hosts find suspicious given his alleged ties to British intelligence. They also discuss Reuters claiming they were "hacked" to cover up editorial mistakes and mention the sale of legendary New York station WOR to Clear Channel.

mark thompson· bbc· new york times· reuters· hacking· clear channel

2:04:04 You know, we discussed the BBC getting an MI6 guy to run the show. Mark Thompson, the outgoing president of the BBC is now the incoming president at The New York Times! I predict more failure!!! Come on... This is like you can't have a former MI6 guy running for The New York Times. The New York Times was already compromised and now it's all over Now it's just completely done. Done, I tell ya! I'm not getting why they did this and... It has to be approved by the CIA Of course the CIA approves But why would they want an MI6 guy? Why don't they put one of their own people in? Unless he was always CIA Because it's elitist You get a British guy Maybe he left MI6 and went to CIA That's possible

2:05:03 Yeah, I'm sure they could do that without shooting ya. More mainstream moves? WORAM! A staple of New York City broadcasting Bites the Dust sold to Clear Channel They're still buying things?! Yeah well WOR is a legendary station Yeah it's a fire...it's a torch And let me ask you a question Ask Johnny Boy question So twice now Twice Reuters comes out and says We were hacked That story was fake, we were hacked. May I make a suggestion? That they are just making mistake after mistake and then instead of saying uh... we screwed up they just say just tell them we're hacked

2:05:49 I like it. I don't believe for a minute what is this we were hacked? I see ideas that as an excuse for everything, I think we should do that too if you and I make mistake Oh We were hacked man. Ah we made a couple of errors recently some everyone's always say the wrong thing well Just so it wasn't us we were hacked And so anyway, so... Somebody did bust into the stream I guess last week or the week before. No, no that was just... But i heard! It's just the system crapped out and then automatically Doug kicked in with the news it was not a hack It was just bad. Doug is still in business? Oh yeah! I've heard of Doug forever He's one of these great employees, he doesn't complain and just reads the news. He's not a douche about it you know its just that Dougs a good guy if you listen to noagendastream.com then you'll know what we're talking about And then after my comments about this whole Curiosity Mars Rover being one big fake studio job I get people keep sending me

CHAPTER 30 / 43 Discussion

Mars Curiosity Rover, New Mexico Studio Theory, Moon Bases

Adam Curry expresses skepticism about the Mars Curiosity Rover mission, noting that Google's image recognition API identified Mars photos as being taken in New Mexico. Dvorak counters with a theory that while the rover might be fake, there have been bases on the moon since 1953 used by "travelers" living among humans.

mars curiosity· nasa· google api· new mexico· moon base· travelers

2:06:48 pictures. It's like, are you convinced yet? And again I just get a picture of the thing looking at its foot and the funny thing is and i put this in the show notes this is really great so someone sent me a picture that was embedded on a page of like you know the...I think it was day two Mars sunrise And then below it, there's a whole bunch of pictures that are embedded automatically by the Google API. So Google makes suggestions of other pictures you might want to like... They're all like New Mexico! So Google analyzed this picture and went yeah that's New Mexico

2:07:33 So, so meanwhile the BBC uh I don't know you know they're trying to sex up this this this lander. Yeah because it's boring and its fake. But it's a boring whatever it is is boring! And its fake I'm not buying the fake, but you can stay there. Prove it to me! Just prove it. I am not going to prove anything. It's boring and I don't care if its fake or not But here is the BBC trying to sex it up by imagining what is nothing more than a pile of bull crap The Mars we see today is a dry dusty planet but by studying its rocks Curiosity will be able to build-up a picture of what it was like billions of years ago

2:08:18 The theory is that if we could travel back in time, 3 billion years We would see a planet where there was widespread volcanic activity and where water flowed freely on its surface Even further back, Mars was thought to be a warmer wetter planet with a vast ocean and possibly even life. Curiosity is the most advanced mission sent to another planet ever and it could well change the way that we think about the whole of Mars' history and prospect of life on Mars Oh man this is the same cubic script they used for the moon!

2:08:53 It's the exact same script. Oh, billions? Who cares! I don't care about billions of years ago Show me something cool on this planet All we've been is indoctrinated with 3D images We saw... How come we saw the lunar module land on television live Yet we couldn't see that with Mars Curiosity because it had to unpack its suitcases for three days Explain that to me Because the whole thing is fake Mars exists, but this whole Mars rover thing. I don't know what the agenda is here But you are being duped its New Mexico Okay, so that's what that's your you're sticking to them. I am definitely sticking to it

2:09:37 It's not like we don't have bases on the moon and Mars, but this thing is not true. Yeah if we got bases on Mars like you suggest why are we faking any of it? We just have some guy come out Well actually I should say...I shouldn't say WE there ARE bases. There been...We've known about moon basis since 1953 1953 we've known about the moon base. What are you talking about? These moon bases are not ours, these moon bases are used by the travelers who now live amongst us Gypties? Gypties... Roma's! We call them. Roma's It's alright

CHAPTER 31 / 43 Discussion

German Investment in Indian Slums, Infrastructure Development

A news report details a $67 million investment by Germany into the Indian state of Odisha for urban infrastructure. The hosts find it bizarre that the investment specifically mentions "slum development," questioning why Germany is funding the creation or improvement of slums in India.

india· germany· odisha· infrastructure· slums· investment

2:10:16 It's okay. You believe whatever you want to believe it's a one thing for sure, it's a big waste of your time. It's a big waste of your money so here's one Okay, talking about wasting money this is weird I listened to this and went wait a minute what kind of German investment is this anyway? India, one of the world's fastest growing economies offers many opportunities for investment in diverse sectors. Infrastructure development is a priority be it big cities or small towns. India�s eastern state of Odisha recently signed an agreement with Germany allowing an investment of 67.26 million US dollars for the development of urban infrastructure

2:11:04 It will fund projects for the improvement of infrastructure in capital Bhubaneswar including roads, water supply, sewerage solid waste management drainage and slum development. Slum developments? Slum Development! And the Germans are investing in this? Yeah, the Germans are coming in to develop some slums for the Indians because God knows the Indians haven't got any slums. Heinz I have a perfect opportunity! Heinz we need to invest in slums in India it's a gross market my friend is a gross market very good

CHAPTER 32 / 43 Discussion

Meridian Mississippi School-to-Prison Pipeline, Juvenile Detention

The Department of Justice is investigating the city of Meridian, Mississippi, for operating a "school-to-prison pipeline." Public school students are reportedly being sent to juvenile detention for minor infractions such as dress code violations, profanity, and flatulence. The hosts describe this as "slave training" for children.

meridian· mississippi· doj· school-to-prison pipeline· juvenile detention· civil rights

2:11:40 All right, well I can top that. I can top that! The city of Meridian Mississippi according to the Department of Justice City and public school officials in meridian are running a quote school-to-prison pipeline end quote where teachers and principals send children to juvenile detention centers for things like dress code violations The policy while in play for all children tends to of course discriminate against black and disabled children In a statement the DOJ said quote The system established by the city of Meridian, Lauderdale County and DYS to incarcerate children for school suspensions shocks the conscience resulting in the incarceration of children for alleged offenses such as dress code violations flatulence profanity and disrespect. Are you farting again Timmy? Off to the pipeline! Off to the prison pipeline! Where is this?! Was that Missouri? Miss-Missouri I think it was

2:12:40 What, fart and go to juvie? Yeah. Well it's the school-to-prison pipeline my friend! Well they might as well get the kids used to it! It's slave training slave training. Now we have a thesis on this show which we've discussed many times and from time to time when a good one crops up, will play an advertisement for a pharmaceutical product which is so blatant in the downside that we have concluded that the more you highlight the death and destruction that a product can bring to your life

CHAPTER 33 / 43 Discussion

Australia Plain Packaging, Cigarette Zombies, Quitting Smoking

Australia has won a court battle to enforce plain packaging for cigarettes, featuring graphic medical photos. The hosts argue that the "zombie-like" imagery will actually make the packs collectible and more appealing to youth. Adam Curry announces that he and Mickey plan to quit smoking after the tour.

australia· big tobacco· plain packaging· smoking· marketing· quitting

2:13:22 the more likely people are buy it or to buy it, correct? That is a thesis that we work with. And I'd still believe this to hold true It was Mississippi by the way not Missouri, Mississippi for the school-to-prison pipeline That makes sense So if you were to be in the business of selling cigarettes what would do really well in selling more cigarettes particularly, in particular to young people Are you thinking of those cigarette packages they're putting out in Australia? The decision means that from December, Australia will become the first country in the world to have logo-free cigarette packaging.

2:14:04 Instead, all packets will come in plain olive green colors. The only imaging will be graphic photos of people suffering from cancer-related illnesses." Have you seen these packages? They look like zombies! Oh yeah the ones with the teeth are the ones that get me It's like a zombie pack I'd be buying that Like this is awesome it looks collectible Very collectible This is like...I'm like Are you stupid do not know the first thing about marketing to children Go look around this is what they This is walking dead, this is... My God! This goes back to faces of death. The government's attorney general said 15000 people a year die from smoking related illnesses. Fifteen thousand? Let's screw an entire industry

2:14:48 and that the court's decision was a victory in the battle against smoking. We have taken on big tobacco, and we have won. She said we've taken on big tobacco! And we've won! They wouldn't want anything! We've won! You didn't win! This is good news for every Australian parent who worries about their child picking up an addictive and deadly habit So it's not good news for the children? It's good news for the parents of the children this is even crazier what she says The new plain cigarette packs are designed to be less appealing, especially to young people. The company's name will only appear in small print

2:15:26 But several of the biggest companies, including British American Tobacco, Philip Morris and Imperial Tobacco have fought plain packaging saying it robs them of their established brands and logos without compensation. And may actually encourage a criminal market in fake or imported cigarettes Now I think these guys should go out you gotta show bits of lung I mean this is gonna be a bonanza sales will go up Put it in the book sales of cigarettes in Australia Meteoric rise I am on the same recommend as the same prediction and by the way miss Mickey And I are stopping after the tour. Yeah, no but for good This was our wedding gift to each other But we decided we would do it after the tour is too stressful thought It'd be kind of can't do it now Do it after the tour so? We are stopping and I'm quite frankly. I'm ready. I'm done. I'm done

CHAPTER 34 / 43 Discussion

Brian Brushwood, TWiT Criticism, Podcast Honesty

Adam Curry critiques a recent episode of "This Week in Tech" (TWiT), specifically finding guest Brian Brushwood's high-energy performance annoying. He also mocks the TWiT crew for not knowing the location of the Gaza Strip, contrasting their lack of preparation with the "honesty" of the No Agenda show.

brian brushwood· leo laporte· twit· podcasting· gaza strip

2:16:28 Kind of like when I was done with weed, I'm just done. Because you know we're driving to the country and you can't listen to a radio station for more than 15 minutes. And of that 15 minutes, 10 minutes is commercials and then you lose the station if you have any type of commute it's unless you're in a metropolis is very hard

2:17:04 So while we are at a Wi-Fi spot, I downloaded this week in tech. You were on and oh by the way if you don't see the video of Brian Brushwood he just makes me want to pull out the 380 and shoot myself through the head The guy is nice and all but Oh my God shut up brush would just chill your funny But not every second so then this come and he's an Austinite so easy i'm sure it was a cool guy but damn man just You know what I mean, John? If he would just like temper himself a little bit. Unless I drop to have less coffee bomb on him. Even Leo said hey man we're doing that in the minute we're just doing something else here chill out for one second and stop sucking Kevin Rose off too! That was annoying not you but Brushwood What an amazing journey No so... What amazing... You failed! The failure

2:18:01 Amazing journey. Anyway, doesn't matter so this is why podcasts are great because I'm sitting there literally yelling at the podcast So i'm like I understand why people get into a show like no agenda which I'm sure you're yelling all the time Yeah, I'm sure a lot of people are so then those idiots yeah, so then they don't even know where the Gaza strip Is that tunnel zone really? Really We are honestly john hold on let me just We do. Actually, where is it? I used to have it here... We're just honest about it we just come out and say it another Jeff Smith spectacular by the way

CHAPTER 35 / 43 Discussion

US Postal Service, MERS Mortgage Fraud, RICO Charges

The hosts discuss the systematic dismantling of the U.S. Postal Service by Congress. They link this to the MERS (Mortgage Electronic Registration System) scandal, suggesting the banks want the USPS to collapse to avoid RICO charges related to illegal foreclosures and the lack of physical paper trails for titles.

usps· stamps.com· mers· bank of america· rico· mortgage fraud

2:18:50 So the conversation comes up about the US Postal Service and this is something that you've discovered, have been talking about for long time. About how Congress is actually forcing the U.S. Postal Service out of business and they're doing it by making them pre-fund their human resources pensions for up to 70 years And you're on par with Dennis Kucinich which is even crazier to consider But the conversation that was on Twitter, I couldn't believe it. Leo could actually recite the article and subsection of the US Constitution where it states that we have a U.S. Postal Service but no one would believe they're being run out of business! And they were just laughing about it...and this is me yelling at them. No, I have run into this before especially with this crowd or at Twitter

2:19:42 Oh, that's bullcrap. No agenda! They throw that in my face every chance they get. How stupid is that? No agenda! Yeah exactly and it's like they won't even consider the possibility and Leo I got at least I kind of moved him a little bit because he's got to sponsor stamps.com for God sake. I know you were even participating in this commercial. They're out of business if this happens You are participating in a commercial which you never do right So, um... I'm like, ah! We have to show these guys. Like this is how pathetic i am and like I gotta prove something that the twit crew And it turns out four out of five doctors and dentists have seen

2:20:25 that indeed there are now all kinds of racketeering charges against mainly the Bank of America and MERS. This is the outfit that we talked about the other day, the Mortgage Electronic Registry, electronic registry registration system who are usurping title law and are foreclosing on people illegally and unjustly because this database blows chunks. It's probably Microsoft SQL Server. We're under attack by the Bank of America as we speak in Washington State

2:21:03 Yeah, because they're running it on an access database or whatever it is. Whatever it is and I believe that this... By the way if anybody works around the Bank of America then I'd like to talk to you because we're actually unbeknownst to the bank We are working with the state of Washington Literally. Who? You as in you the Dvorak family or...? Yes! Wait a minute, you guys are under attack from this?! Yes!! No!!! Yeah Was your mortgage a MERS mortgage I don't know. We, uh...I don't know the background of a lot of this but i'll tell you this we're under attack but where apparently this is not an unusual situation if you get the right representation

2:21:44 which is not free, but you can get a settlement from the bank and they probably have them give your money free. But this is like... This bank is the worst operation ever! So do you want to talk about this? Or is it too private? No I gotta get more details and there's a big meeting today with the Dvorak family. Yeah, the Dvorak family's meeting with the bank on on the phone and it's supposed to be a three-way call, and the third person is going to be the head of banking regulations from the state of Washington. Wow! And so he's gonna be in the chat as a representative but I don't know how they're gonna present him. Okay hold on a second

2:22:22 You need to find out if somewhere your original mortgage was registered through this MERS outfit. Because I bet you it was, because that's where the problem... All you have to do is say show me the title! Show me the title! If they can't show you the title then they have nothing but these people, the banks and basically just said we're not interested in law, we don't give a crap about law. We are just going to say this mortgage electronic registration system is fact and legal and the judges are going like oh yeah no that's okay that looks good to me. Basically they're doing the equivalent of coming to you with a xerox copy of a ten dollar bill and saying

2:23:05 Let me buy that for you for $10. That is the equivalent of what this MERS does with these mortgages, except they're foreclosing on you and I think that this thing is so rampant So deep that they need to shut down the Postal Service So they can't be charged for all this Rico in retrospect going back Four or five years They need to blow up the US postal system Yes I've been saying this for a while that they, because the way they set it up first, the bank of America sends you some stuff that tells you to do this and that because they're, they wonder about something. And then after you start doing an exchange with them, they switch from the postal service to FedEx

CHAPTER 36 / 43 Discussion

Dvorak Family Foreclosure Battle, Bank of America, Washington State

John C. Dvorak reveals that his family is currently under attack by Bank of America, which is attempting to foreclose on a mortgage that has never missed a payment in 18 years. He is working with Washington state banking regulators to fight the bank, which he claims is using the fraudulent MERS system to seize property.

john c. dvorak· bank of america· washington state· foreclosure· mers· legal battle

2:23:48 No real reason, but I you said that and I thought that was for future stuff They're doing. I think that because of course if it's FedEx then there's no they're doing this now the Rico stuff doesn't doesn't apply Right But I think that they've already done all this through the mail system And they need to shut it down in fact They need a 9-11 on the US Postal System. They burn all the documents. They need to collapse a building on it This is deep man, and I can't believe it. Now the Dvorak clan is now in... Mimi must be freaking out! She's very annoyed by this No kidding? So are they trying to foreclose? Is that what's going on? Yeah on a loan that we have never missed a payment for the last 18 years Wow And we pay actually above and beyond the normal payment It's almost paid off Well pretty close

2:24:44 And they're trying to for so wait a minute. We're gonna see you in one of those YouTube videos where you were you in a tent outside your house You hold it up papers screw you Bank of America Wow that well John I'll come up there. I'm on the front lines my friend! You are on the front lines and please see if you can find out about the MERS part because i guarantee that this is a MERS mortgage yeah well we will but we're working on it so again and you know... And uh, you know that guy who's going to be the fall guy? I suspect Is-is The Shill

2:25:23 No, the shill they brought in is the new chairman of the board. Not the CEO but the chairman of the board Eric DeShill. He's going to be the fall guy. I think that the chairman of the board they brought over from DuPont who had a very good reputation is gonna be hung out to dry and he doesn't know it Wow this is hardcore man! Sorry you're going through that That's expensive too because you don't get a free lawyer for that Well you'll win. You guys are like vigilantes and Mimi's like, I know she goes insane! There is no guns in the house up there because if someone comes... This is what happened in Texas Some guy, the sheriff comes to foreclose and he was like yeah I'm so sick and tired of this And a guy pulls out a gun and shoots him Well there's a process that we've already got We got the briefing from the state The department of real estate also we've gotten touch with

2:26:26 State representative who actually put the bill through that controls these banks, but bank the Bank of Washington has this They don't have a they have a different system up there for the bank essentially can Can just foreclose on you without a judge in the middle exactly so you have to preempt the foreclosure? With it restraining order if you don't do that in time. You're done. You're screwed your dime, but we're And that's apparently what is going on in a number of these states, and the Bank of America has just taken property left and right. People are moaning about it... Oh they took my property! I'm... Oh well that's too bad you should have paid! You should have taken the big loan out like that idiot on CNBC who says, Well these people should pay their bills when its all bogus. The thing is its out-and-out scam. I am so sorry for you John. That really... You shouldn't be. Yeah no..that blows man

2:27:21 So anyway, so this is the conversation they could have had on Twit. But of course they didn't know how to milk it out of you I know! I didn't even know this by the way It's not even that...I did mention this before on the show Not that you were under attack. Yes, I did! I mentioned it...I said we had an issue going on and you didn't notice it. I wasn't gonna play it up but will gonna play that when I get more and more details as this thing kind of evolves. You are... The bank is amazingly they have some stories are so outrageous just eye-rolling materials. Hey man, what time is the three way?

2:27:58 It's that was a 10 this morning is I wasn't gonna be part of it. Ah did someone record it uh No, we can't record you got a state officer there yeah you say hello State Officer? I'm recording you no no he told us what to do We just do what he says oh sure being coached so your see you're trusting the state Know they're very mad at the bank Oh Hello You're not getting me? Yeah, I am. And you're back. You're back. I'm trusting a state agency that... Oh, are you going in and out man what's happening? You talk about the state and immediately your screwed! ...that is annoyed with their target which is the bank. I know if your working with the government yeah they're not gonna help you much generally speaking but somebody because they're screwing with them oh it's brutal

2:28:53 Yeah, I hear you now. I'm so sorry man that is a hassle. Get out of this sympathy! I need your money. No kidding? We would get court costs eventually. Eventually?! It's going to be a total pain in the ass because this bank really needs to shut down The bank officer should be arrested and the board of directors should go to jail Oh yeah... Now that's gonna happen No, no that's not gonna happen. So at what point public puts up with this? No, no I think we're gonna have a war with the banks This is going to happen if there's gonna be a war You know, you know people send these YouTube videos around where you just see trains with tanks rolling through all these different states in America You know in this the tanks have no camo and people like hey man look for Syria Like no you shit that's for the bank's The bank's are arming themselves. I'm not kidding

CHAPTER 37 / 43 Discussion

Elon Musk, Tesla Bankruptcy Risks, Space Exploration

Elon Musk admits that Tesla faces a difficult path to becoming cash-flow positive and could join the "graveyard" of failed car startups. The hosts criticize Musk for taking government money while simultaneously spending wealth on space exploration, calling his electric car business a "ploy" for rich investors.

elon musk· tesla· bankruptcy· electric cars· spacex· government subsidies

2:29:58 Well, it's a busted. I mean all I know is that when the Occupy started going after the banks They shut that thing down faster than crap with the use of the New York Police Department Oh yeah Which they sponsor so anyway besides be interesting? Yeah, I'll have it all in detail very good very good Wow careful notes and then I feel horrible for you guys Yeah, let's do a quick run around give my nation. Oh Elon Musk He's another space guy another phony He of course also started Tesla. Tesla, pronounced like Boise. Tesla... Looks like they're gonna go bankrupt!

2:30:39 Well that can't be, they got a bunch of government money and a bunch of rich guys buying their cars. That's not possible! The challenge Tesla faces over the next several months which is a very difficult one is to scale up production and achieve enough of a gross margin on the product line that we get to a situation where were cash flow positive if we aren't able to do that we will join the graveyard have all the other car company startups in the last 90 years Elon Musk Well that's rather cavalier of you, Elon. So they're gonna go bankrupt but meanwhile let me shoot some money into space because idiots are falling for my ploy! He made his money he made his money and all of you idiots with that battery car yes Jason Calacanis I'm looking at you good luck on getting service when it's time for a new battery haha you have to be strapping two of those uh those Toyota batteries on your roof

CHAPTER 38 / 43 Discussion

Eve Jackson, Pierre Cardin, Future of Fashion

The hosts review a segment from France 24 featuring culture editor Eve Jackson interviewing 90-year-old fashion designer Pierre Cardin. Cardin makes confusing statements about women wanting to be men and the relationship between "tomorrow" and "yesterday," which the hosts find unintentionally hilarious.

eve jackson· france 24· pierre cardin· fashion· paris· culture

2:31:39 Prius batteries. You're gonna have to have a trailer hitch with a cart pulling your batteries These people are screwed Such a stupid idea People that bought that car had money to burn obviously Yeah, it's such a stupid idea So I'm listening to France Van Cat and so there is this interesting show once a week called Culture Van Kenten is this doll, Eve Jackson. She's got this beautiful British accent and she's French from Paris. Is she hot? She's really pretty! What's her name again? Uh...Eve Jackson. Eve Jackson. France 24? Yeah Oh wow With the short blonde hair? Yeah Oh she's uh..she's the culture editor. Specializes in film

2:32:40 She has an overbite, but it's a very cute overbite. Yeah she is really good looking so she has got this great accent but here she gets Pierre Cardin who is like 90 something on the show now I only go two clips but these clip are hilarious The first one not as funny as the second First play Pierre Cardin at first he starts grilling him about something in the 60 where he was moaning and groaning they had his long quote in French of him complaining about women wearing trousers. Thought it was unsexy, it was stupid but then he changed his mind and she grills him about this. We look back there at 1964 when you said you didn't think women should wear trousers. A lot's changed since then? Yes, because the woman like to be men today What did Pierre say?! Women like to be men today! Oh okay thanks Pierre thanks for that great obses...he is an observationist apparently

2:33:35 So then it became this one. Apparently in the 60s and 70s they used to have these fashion shows where people were wearing these crazy Devo-like outfits, you know that he'd just put these outrageous things out there So she asked this dumb question and I don't know if you can understand what he says but i can only understand half of it. You always create for a different time than the one we're in why are you so interested in the future as opposed to the present? Because tomorrow is yesterday, the next day is the future. I got it because tomorrow is just today in the future

CHAPTER 39 / 43 Discussion

Joe Biden, Standard Chartered Bank, Money Laundering

Vice President Joe Biden's "put you back in chains" comment is criticized as scripted racial rhetoric. Meanwhile, Standard Chartered Bank agreed to a $340 million settlement for laundering $250 billion for the Iranian government. The hosts describe the fine as a "VIG" or a "shakedown" that allows the bank to remain profitable despite illegal activity.

joe biden· standard chartered· iran· money laundering· shakedown· vig

2:34:15 Not great Anyway, that's your culture. That's culture from France I don't think we should be doing it you know we did that great Conversation about you and your pig and everyone loved it but no one donated We're not doing the right material apparently yeah Alright well then let me hear I'll play something that you've heard everywhere He's gonna let the big banks once again write their own rules on chain Wall Street They're gonna put you all back in chains. Let me just tell you one thing, douchebag Biden! Yeah I will let him be douche bagging for that. He meant to say it was scripted and nothing happens by accident this guy's a thug an Irish thug and he's going out there and doing exactly what we expected is ramping up racism in this election season

2:35:13 And by the way, these big banks do have you in chains. They are chaining the Dvorak clan! Chaining you I tell you... So here's this standard Chartered Bank BS that ran on the BBC or one of these foreign news stories where they're discussing... Chartered Bank was breaking American law and it should've been kicked out of New York but no Following allegations that it hid billions in illegal transactions with Iran, regulators had accused the bank of breaching economic sanctions against Iran and acting like a rogue institution. From New York, Michelle Flary reports. Can a bank really stand for something?

2:35:55 Can it balance its ambition with its conscience? Standard Chartered likes to portray itself as a safe and boring bank, but one New York financial regulator has shattered that image. The bank has agreed to pay $340 million or £217 million pounds to the Department of Financial Services to settle charges that its schemed with the Iranian government deliberately hiding up up to 60,000 transactions which was said to have laundered at least $250 billion. Yeah it's called the shakedown. Shaking them down. They mentioned that there was a they would've lost this 350 million dollar fine which is a spit in the bucket and doesn't even reflect the percentages they probably got from these from the money laundering which can range up to 10% by the way

2:36:49 They did that instead of kicking them out of the state in New York, which they could have done. Kicked them out of the country said you can't do business here anymore would cost him a lot playing this crazy game so if 250 billion dollars of laundered money went through the bank and if that was that would be like what? If it was 10% between I just do it times ten to a times ten Yeah, so and they chart their fine was 340 million which was like it made it profitable. The fine was less than the money they made from these transactions yeah It's called a shakedown and say it's called a VIG. That's what happens when you're in illegal trade. To the Attorney General who saw is a big shot now And where does that money go?

CHAPTER 40 / 43 Discussion

TSA Racial Profiling, Boston Logan Airport, Behavioral Detection

The TSA is investigating reports of racial profiling at Boston's Logan International Airport after 30 agents filed internal complaints against their colleagues. The hosts note that the White House recently removed a popular anti-TSA petition from its website and criticize the media for downplaying the profiling reports.

tsa· boston logan· racial profiling· behavioral detection· whitehouse.gov· petitions

2:37:35 I don't know, where does it go? Does it go into the Dvorak family Bank of America defense fund? No. No? No! I don't think so. Alright just a few more things... Ministry of Truth, uh, I should have mentioned this when it happened It was almost two weeks ago now but there was a TSA petition on We The People that fine petition site over there at the whitehouse.gov What a joke. And they took it down saying, oh you didn't get enough votes the only like five hundred votes off or maybe a couple thousand votes but they took it down early just in case and of course the TSA has a mandate that all this should be investigated

2:38:26 which they're just ignoring. Congress gave them a mandate and then this little report... The Transportation Security Administration is investigating reports of racial profiling at Boston's Logan International Airport the New York Times reports more than 30 TSA agents filed international, or rather internal complaints about their own colleagues targeting minorities in security checks travelers say they haven't noticed anything too overt Once in a while something I love this what yeah, I love this so we get so we have the TSA filing against themselves Saying hey man. They're profiling black people because it's literally black not saying racial like as in People with beards who look like terrorists no black people they're pulling them out and

2:39:16 And then CNN goes right into protecting the TSA by saying, but travelers at least the two idiots we're going to put on television don't seem to have a problem with it. Once in awhile something happens I get in there random check or whatever but for the most part its okay. They are gonna check people randomly and they do check out randomly if people want to call profiling they can call profiling The complaints may carry nationwide implications because Boston is testing ground for an expanded use of behavioral detection methods at other US airports. So the thing that gets me is they get like an Indian guy and... At the end of day, they're doing their job Adam! Yeah, at the end of the day, they sure are have you has a plane come down? Has a building collapsed? Has somebody crashed out? They're doing a great job what am I thinking about John? I'm just so stupid

CHAPTER 42 / 43 Discussion

Dave Mustaine, False Flag Claims, Aurora Mayor

Megadeth frontman Dave Mustaine made headlines by claiming from a stage in Singapore that President Obama staged the Aurora and Sikh temple shootings to pass gun control. The hosts also play a clip of the Mayor of Aurora describing the shooter as "normal," which they find suspicious.

dave mustaine· megadeth· aurora· false flag· barack obama· gun control

2:42:21 He's trying to pass a gun ban, so he staging all of these murders like the Fast and Furious thing down at the border in Aurora Colorado. All the people that were killed there and now um two beautiful people at the Sikh temple So he basically says Obama is planting these false flags for Aurora and Fast & Furious in the Sikh temple. You can even hear the Singaporeans going, we love Obama! Hey man just play your guitar boy! We have no idea they hear this crap.

2:42:58 Pick this one up. This is the mayor of Aurora, interesting language. He just by every standard appeared normal clearly there's something wrong here did he have friends? Did he make connections that he put down any roots in the community? He did have friends he had made connections he had people they went drinking with on Friday nights and all the comments to date are normal guy just something very seriously wrong here I'd shut up if i were you mayor this is not the kind of talk that's the program was all about it's just so much. I think ACT-A or something is happening

CHAPTER 43 / 43 Discussion

Google HealthMap, Vaccine Promotion, Show Outro

The show concludes with an analysis of Google's "HealthMap" (formerly Flu Finder), which is now being used to promote adult vaccinations for HPV and Shingles. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak sign off from Moab, Utah, looking forward to their next meetup in Albuquerque, New Mexico.

google· healthmap· vaccines· hpv· moab· albuquerque· hot pockets tour

2:43:46 With the copyright laws and I only have a little bit of evidence The Carlisle group is taking a controlling interest in Getty images for 3.3 billion dollars so there of course is our magic number and Why else would the Carlyle Group want a database of images unless they had some kind of legislation they knew was coming Because that seems like kind of a down growth business otherwise Yeah, something's fishy about that Eli Lilly for 3.3 billion well hello Eli Lily admits paying doctors over 200 million dollars to promote their bullcrap This is all coming out now But of course you won't see this on Anderson Cooper but the best one came from one of our producers Do you remember when Google did the flu finder no?

2:44:44 So Google had a map and you could look at the Google Map and you could see where the flu was. You can see the flu coming towards you so this Flu Finder changed to the health map, HealthMap.org And if you look at the website you'll see that google is basically still running their show they're funding everything and uh... so uh... The he- Are you still there or did you just go away? John? John did I just lose you What the hell is that? I've never heard this before. John, why he went offline? Well this is weird and what is Skype making like a submarine sound Wow Oh... I love that sound my favorite skype sound it just disappeared those Bank of America guys are crazy There's a problem with the internet connection between you two really you guys still hear me Shields up

2:46:06 This is it! I still have a connection. I'm still streaming Wow, I think John's connection just went... They just pulled the plug on him They foreclosed on his cable modem Wow Well That may be it folks. I don't know Can I call him on the phone? I'll try calling him on the phone Wow Yeah he shows us offline Hello What happened?! I have no idea Did Skype crash? Well you were breaking up and then I just disconnected me

2:46:56 I'm like Bank of America foreclosed on your cable modem. It's a different account down here All right, so back to the health map and let's wrap it up Yeah, I want to wrap it up with this So HealthMap org which is basically sponsored by Google They send out an email To everyone and this includes all the like Walgreens etc. So I can't really tell where I got this email from about what they're doing So let me read to you from this email, from the Health Map Vaccine Finder Expansion Program. This is Google!

2:47:36 Flu season is rapidly approaching and with it the launch of the newly redesigned and expanded health map vaccine finder! There are two major an exciting improvements that will occur to the vaccine finder this year. First, starting August 27th individuals can search for all four types of flu vaccines traditional flu shot nasal spray intradermal and high dose In even bigger news, the Vaccine Finder will expand later this year to allow for searches of 10 adult vaccines including Hepatitis A, Hepatitis B, HPV, MMR, Meningococcal, Pneumococcal, TD, Tdap. Meningitis and pneumonia. TD, Tdap, Varicella and Zester. What's zester?

2:48:26 Isn't that Zoster? Oh, it may say Zoster. I'm sorry yeah, Zoster what's Zoster? It says some kind of a flu-like thing that nobody ever and nobody gets in the last day if you get is no big deal We can raise awareness and increase demand for adult vaccinations In fact, I think this is also if you look into it You'll find the guy who did the vaccine as some there's something sketchy about him And the vaccine itself so let me read this again We can raise awareness and increase demand for adult vaccinations as well as help you promote your vaccination service. This is Google selling vaccines. No, you're not impressed I was impressed Well i'm looking at the website and it's like a bunch of people involved in this thing And I don't see the I mean google

2:49:19 getting some direct funding or giving them some money but I don't see that as a Google thing. Yeah, well this was the flu finder and they changed it... Well it was taken over by Children's Hospital Boston apparently yeah okay and who's fine? I'm not saying that google is out of the woods in terms of blame but I'm not seeing it as a Google thing But what they're doing is showing uh this is supposed to help you Find flu, but really it's not about finding flu It's about they're literally saying help you promote your vaccination service And there's any bad and they're sending this to Walgreens and other outfits the end of the HPV seriously So just gonna get your HPV at Walgreens now. Hey hey man Your daughter looks mighty young you know even if you're a virgin you can get HPV Are you a virgin young lady? Why don't you go get your shots right over there oh

2:50:13 That's the world we live in ladies and gentlemen, it is called Gitmo Nation. We're proud to be a part of it to bring you all the good, bad, worst and totally ugly twice a week here I would take a look at this google dot org who seems to be the financiers of this thing and Shona Brown senior vice president from April 2011 she is from McKinsey & Company Bridgman Group Sounds... To me like they are shilling Alright next stop will be the next time we speak on Sunday. We'll be in Albuquerque, New Mexico We have several nights dames and hopefully lots of people who will Come to our meetup follow miss Mickey's tweeters for that And we have I believe a no agenda producer update coming up on the stream next No, no agenda stream calm which is always fun

2:51:12 So John, I look forward to an update on the Merge Bank of America on Sunday. Yeah! I'll have something...I know something later today Good deal, good deal Coming to you from right underneath the Stargates here at The Arches National Park in Moab Utah In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where Tripwire's in play, I'm John C. Dvorak We'll be back again on Sunday right here on No Agenda Tomorrow is yesterday the next is the future you know? podcast in the universe dvorak dot org slash n