Episode 423 · Thursday, 5 July 2012

Wonderful Marinade

Global banking scandals and drone strikes collide with a bizarre era of corporate product placement masquerading as cable news journalism.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 423

About this episode

The LIBOR interest rate scandal has erupted into a global crisis as major banks face allegations of manipulating the $600 trillion derivatives market. While Barclays and other institutions come under fire, the Obama administration has simultaneously ramped up drone strikes in Yemen and Pakistan, targeting the strategic Shawwal Valley pipeline route. These events coincide with the implementation of California Assembly Bill 1156, which critics argue severely restricts student free speech under the guise of combating a bullying epidemic.

In Europe, Nigel Farage has delivered a blistering critique of the European Stability Mechanism as the Dutch Senate approved the taxpayer-funded bank rescue fund. Former French President Nicolas Sarkozy has reportedly fled to Canada following a police raid on his home regarding illegal campaign financing from L’Oreal heiress Liliane Bettencourt. Meanwhile, WikiLeaks has begun the release of the Syria Files, consisting of two million emails that expose the inner workings of the Assad regime just as the State Department confirms Saudi Arabia is actively arming Syrian rebels.

CNN anchor Anderson Cooper officially came out in a letter to Andrew Sullivan, sparking a debate on the timing of the announcement and the media's framing of social behaviors. In a bizarre turn for broadcast journalism, Soledad O’Brien hosted a segment on CNN that functioned as a direct product placement for Taco Bell’s new Cantina Bell menu. The episode features the knighting of Sir Bill Hurtha and a critical look at the medicalization of Intermittent Explosive Disorder by the pharmaceutical industry.


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CHAPTER 01 / 50 Discussion

Independence Day Fireworks and National Security Concerns

The hosts open the July 5, 2012, episode by discussing their Independence Day celebrations in Austin, Texas, and Northern Silicon Valley. They contrast the local fireworks displays in California and Washington, noting a massive surplus of fireworks in certain areas. A brief discussion follows regarding the lack of a nationwide ban on fireworks and the potential security risks they might pose.

independence day· fireworks· austin· silicon valley· washington· terrorism

00:00 Yeah, I saw climate change in action last night. Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. It's Thursday, July 5th, 2012. Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 423. This is no agenda. Clearly suffering from severe IED here at Camp MoFo in the capital of the drone star states, Austin Tejas. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where we still celebrate Americans' independence, I'm John C. Dvorak. It's crackpot and buzzkill. In the morning. Yoo-hoo! Fifth of July. Yes indeed. What'd you do yesterday? Um...

00:41 Cooked watched fireworks Was it just you or did you have any of the kids there? Everybody's around. Oh really and That's nice. Is it better to do 4th of July in And in the San Francisco area than it is up in Washington the Washington area it depends on the on the year Generally speaking. I think it's actually better up there this year Mimi was up there, and I was down here So she was gonna go to bed right so not everyone was on the way apparently in the in the school in the backyard of the backfield of some school it appeared as if somebody

01:21 Because fireworks are legal there. Someone had bought like 200 million dollars worth of Indian fire. We finally deconstructed the possibility that there was a surplus that the Indian tribes didn't sell. Yeah, okay. And it went on at least, it was apparently, and I was listening to it, it was like 10 times better than the Berkeley and San Francisco and Oakland fireworks displays combined. Oh wow. With 20, 30 shells going off constantly at all at once for two hours. We had very little here actually. That surprises me. Well I'm surprised that they allowed fireworks at all, you know, it being kind of dry and stuff. Yeah, it's a problem in general. In general. It's kind of raining in Washington so. Well in general I was thinking

02:09 How weird is it that we don't have a nationwide ban on fireworks? I mean, this is of course what an opportunity for terrorists to blow us up, you know, it's like that makes no sense. Yeah, make the suggestion now that's for sure. Makes no sense that they let us do that. I just didn't understand that at all. Oh man. Well, in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak. In the morning to you, Adam Curry. In the morning to all ships at sea. Boots. I wonder if our ships at sea are still listening. Of course. Boots on the ground, subs in the water. And all of our human resources in the chat room. NoagendaStream.com, NoagendaChat.net. Thank you all for joining us on this day after Independence Day and being all charged up and ready to go in that chat room. Keeping us honest, as always. Speaking of keeping them honest, I mean, wow.

CHAPTER 02 / 50 Discussion

Anderson Cooper, Coming Out, and the Bullying Epidemic

CNN anchor Anderson Cooper officially came out as gay in a letter to Andrew Sullivan, citing a desire to combat what Entertainment Weekly describes as a bullying epidemic. The discussion questions the timing and orchestration of the announcement, noting that Cooper's sexual orientation had been a subject of public speculation for years. The hosts critique the use of the word epidemic to describe social behaviors like bullying.

anderson cooper· cnn· andrew sullivan· entertainment weekly· bullying· coming out

03:02 I'm upset now. Why? Well, for a number of reasons, but you know, I can't call Anderson Cooper Anderson pooper anymore. It's not funny now. You know, this is weird when he did this because I thought he already had done this. And I thought you were calling him Anderson Pooper because it was funny. Well, it was funny, but now it's not funny because now it's official that he's gay and now it's like it's so sore. It was still funny to me because I always thought it was official. Yeah, but you're anti-homo. No, I'm not. I thought he came out of the closet years ago. Where did I go wrong on this? Well, the thing that's disturbing about it is, and this is the main report that went around,

03:48 And so it was you know of course what if you don't know Anderson Cooper is a journalist He's a Vanderbilt actually so he's when he walks anywhere. You just look at the videos. He's got four security guys He's not a very tall man. I'm not sure how tall he is because of course Wikipedia doesn't provide that information But he's not very tall yeah, he looks like about five. He's always standing really no I think he's shorter than 5'8". I think yeah, yeah, I think so I mean look at his he's got a big head. He's perfect for TV and So I guess the daily you know he was kind of coerced into it to me. It seemed like this whole thing was rather orchestrated and Here's the the key. Here's the key line like Distraction of the week if you well yeah, and no here's the key line from the what comes from the the press release And this was what was propagated so he came out in a letter to Andrew Sullivan Was the Daily Beast?

04:46 Sullivan, who is gay and is a longtime friend of Cooper's, had asked the CNN anchor for his reaction to a recent Entertainment Weekly story, here it comes, The Art of Coming Out, which was, in part, about the importance of gay celebrities coming out of the closet to combat America's bullying epidemic. Apparently there's an epidemic, John. What is the definition of an epidemic, by the way? I don't know, but it's not, it has nothing to do with bullying, I can tell you that. It's an epidemic. It is rampant. Bullying is, and of course it's, go away, of course it's anti-gay bullying, no doubt.

CHAPTER 03 / 50 Discussion

California Assembly Bill 1156 and Free Speech Restrictions

California Assembly Bill 1156 went into effect on July 1, 2012, establishing new mandates for school districts to address bullying. The law defines bullying as acts that cause substantial interference with a pupil's academic performance or ability to participate in school services. Critics argue the broad definition of bullying under this legislation represents a significant restriction on First Amendment rights and free speech for students.

california· ab 1156· anti-bullying bill· first amendment· free speech· school district

05:28 epidemic now in a widespread occurrence of an infectious disease in a community at a particular time. So bullying is apparently a disease that is infectious according to Entertainment Weekly. And here's anyway, which is kind of important because as of July 1st, new law on the books in California, AB 1156, the anti-bullying bill from the California Assembly This bill as of July 1st, 2012 would require that a pupil who has been determined by personnel of either the school district or residence or the school district of proposed enrollment to have been the victim of an act of bullying as defined, which I'll get to, committed by a pupil of the school district in the residence, blah blah blah blah blah.

06:16 Of course, you will be expelled from school and you will go to jail. Or actually, it'll be a state-run training facility, as it's stated here. What is the definition of bullying, amongst others, at the very end of the clause, causing a reasonable pupil to experience substantial interference with his or her academic performance or causing a reasonable pupil to experience substantial interference with his or her ability to participate in or benefit from the services, activities, or privileges provided by a school." This is crazy, ladies and gentlemen. This is completely nuts. Because all you have to do is, I can't do my homework, he's interfering with me.

07:03 This is just the beginning of the restriction of the First Amendment, your right to free speech. We've said it so many times, but now it's gotten to a whole new level with this law and this will be propagated across all 50 states in one form or the other, I'm sure. But this definition of bullying, which by the way is a virus according to Entertainment Weekly, is nuts. John C. Dvorek, you are a constitutional scholar. Your thoughts on this? I think yeah I think you're correct in your assumptions. And then we got to have any thoughts on it. It's just like I think we've already nailed this in the beginning. It's an attack on free speech and an abnegation of the old sticks and stones will never hurt me concept which apparently has gone by the wayside. Well sticks and stones do hurt you. Because most of this bullying we're talking about is verbal.

CHAPTER 04 / 50 Discussion

Nahum Martinez Shooting and Media Propaganda Analysis

A 15-year-old boy, Nahum Martinez, was shot and killed in Wiley, Texas, by a 14-year-old acquaintance who had reportedly bullied him. The hosts analyze the media coverage of the event, suggesting the narrative is being used as a confusing propaganda tool regarding guns and standing up to bullies. They point out inconsistencies in the story, including the fact that the victim and the suspect were described as buddies.

nahum martinez· wiley· texas· bullying· propaganda· shooting

07:57 Right and so so they're cranking it up a notch and both of you both you and I received this story from one of our producers This is from North, Texas, and there's a lot in this story It's it's a very short blurb, but wow it was like very whoo man a lot of lot of messages here 15 year old boy from North, Texas was shot in the forehead at close-ranged that quote and A 15 year old boy from North Texas who was shot in the forehead at close range had been bullied by another teenager accused in his killing. Okay? The suspect was 14 when he and another 14 year old were arrested and charged in the March death of Nahum Martinez in Wiley about 30 miles north of Dallas. Prosecutors say Martinez, a freshman and a member of the cross-country team, was shot in the accused teen's bedroom, then wrapped in a comforter, dropped out of a second story window. I'm sorry I'm laughing but it's crazy. But the whole thing here was he had sent a note saying

08:59 Well, you know, I was just kidding. And according to the story, they were, quote, buddies, whatever that means. So I guess what they're trying to propagate with this story is, yeah, you can stand up to bullies, but you really shouldn't because it could get out of hand. You could kill someone. So you just this story is so artificial. I mean, we don't even know what any of it and the truth of any of it. I mean, for one thing, what's he doing in the other in the bully's bedroom? A. Yeah, well they were buddies so there's a little gay thing there I think that they're trying to say. And there was the gay angle and then there was just tossing him out the window seems rather sketchy. Yeah. And shooting him is another thing what did he expect to you know that's had to make a mess and I could have been an accidental shooting. The kid apparently was seen around town with a gun and he's an idiot he didn't know how to use it. Yeah. And

09:52 And then the bullying thing was questionable and the guy apologized. I mean, the whole story is that they tried, I think they're trying to make something out of the story to... Yeah, don't stand up to bullies. That's what I'm reading. Well, it's a possibility. Because you could mess up. It could have all been a joke and, you know, and guns are bad and just a whole bunch of stuff in this story. Yeah, it's totally fabricated. It's a lot of mixed messages. I don't think the story works as a propaganda tool. No, it's too confusing. They put too many messages. Too many messages. Fire that guy! People, keep it simple. Yeah, really. Even we can't deconstruct your conflicting messages. A mess. And congratulations, John.

CHAPTER 05 / 50 Discussion

Spain Victory in Euro 2012 Soccer Championship

Spain defeated Italy 4-0 to win the Euro 2012 championship, becoming the first team to win three consecutive major international tournaments. The victory provided a temporary distraction for the Spanish public amidst the ongoing Eurozone economic crisis. The hosts discuss their previous predictions for the tournament and how the economic climate in Italy and Spain influenced the outcome.

spain· italy· madrid· euro 2012· soccer· banking crisis

10:34 Oh, thank you very much. I do have a clip. You might as well play it and then we can talk about it. Okay, I haven't looked at your clips yet, but I know what it is. Are you sure? Oh, here it is. Yes. Yeah, that's the clip I was hoping you'd have. Flags were flying as Madrid woke up to the morning after a night of glory. And the previous evening's proceedings dominated the headlines, ranging from never been done before to Spain take third crown in a row. The people are euphoric. It's good for us. I have faith in this country. We were nervous about whether our team would do it again, so of course we were delighted. Yeah, the slaves are happy. There's no problem, no economic issues. We're just partying. And wow, what a, I mean, four to zero.

11:28 I mean, the Italian goalie was just like in the wrong place all the time. Like did they dope him up or what? All you need to do is get the goalie on board and you can win these games if you, uh, if the other goalie's not on board, especially. So of course, uh, I had called Italy, you had called Spain from the get-go, and I think that in the last week there a lot of events shifted with the whole Euro banking breakthrough and it really did shift right back on to Spain. So you called it correctly and I give you props for that. Good job, good job. Can't wait two years, we have the World Cup, we'll do it again. Yeah, and I always say that the one thing that

12:17 I want to kind of credit you for the basic theory of this corruption. What a bro-fest here. This is nice. And so I used your theory to pick the right team. You had mis... I think, personally, was misinterpreting the activities that needed Spain to win and the activities that needed Italy to win. Yes. And I think you were, I still think when you first picked Italy I thought you were off the mark. Well, the reason why is because I know that the big piece of the puzzle in Euro land is Italy. It's the seventh largest economy and there was a lot of noise about the Italian banks and the Italian economy and I thought that they would catch up with

13:02 with that in time for the finals and of course Spain was in the middle of the news so I was just I mean Italy's all gonna happen I was just ahead of it you know I used the same formula I just I was too ahead of myself and at the end of the day we both picked the final guy so that wasn't too bad. No it was pretty good and people still wondering or we've had it we tried to explain this a lot of people Just think it's weird that we talk this way These things Event after event and we'll do it again. Oh, yeah, we'll keep doing it for sure And I'm not telling people to go wager no because if we do that you then you know we'll lose that That'll that'll break the magic. Yeah, I don't think that'll work I want to give it in the morning to a producers Mike and Jane who stopped by yesterday

CHAPTER 06 / 50 Discussion

No Agenda Producer Meetup and Political Protests

The hosts recount a recent meetup with show producers Mike and Jane, who provided homemade food and discussed their healthy lifestyle. The conversation shifts to political strategy, with Mike suggesting that a Mitt Romney victory might reignite the political left's penchant for protesting. They observe that many former anti-war activists have become quiet during the Obama administration despite ongoing military conflicts.

meetup· hot pockets tour· ron paul· mitt romney· barack obama· potato salad

13:53 They organized the meetup when we had the Hot Pockets 2008 tour. And we bumped into him on Saturday at the Farmer's Market, so they came over. And I just got to say, Jane made a homemade potato salad, which was off the hook. And Mike makes bread himself. No bread makers. And he puts agave in there. What an outstanding taste. Really phenomenal. And it's nice to have young kids around. How old are these people? 28, 29. I look at it like I'm almost 20 years older. Hey kids, come on! You want to jump in the pool? Come on you kids! You kids making bread, that's cute. I think that's exactly the way I wanted to sound. I couldn't quite pull it off. I couldn't quite pull it off. But it was nice because I can see that

14:55 Listening to the show is keeping them healthy. You know, they're not making themselves sick with all the bull crap that's being poured into them. Yeah, I know. I think listening to the show is going to be beneficial for anybody. Yeah, unless they did they hate that I mean there are people that cannot listen to the show yeah, they're so plugged into the bullcrap yeah, and they've essentially have soaked it up to the point where the listening to the show would Blow up their personalities. I guess I don't know Depressed I don't I have no idea. I mean I've always been skeptical enough I've I wouldn't even in was at Cal Berkeley. You know they used to be a a

15:33 I think an ironic bumper sticker that was very popular that said question authority and this is what you've always thought you should do and then curiously though when Obama gets in all these same people that used to have that bumper sticker all lockstep with Obama or whatever president. Well Mike said actually he said something very astute he said you know I really and he's a Ron Paul guy I mean he's like he's got the Ron Paul hat the bumper sticker the you know the everything And he says, I really hope Romney wins because then at least, you know, the left will start protesting again. And we need that. It's a good point. Yeah. I thought that was actually pretty. Yeah, that was a good point. Yeah. We do. We need people to get in action again because it's the same guy. Now, officially, I think I saw the numbers more people, more Americans killed in Afghanistan, not even to speak of how many Afghani civilians or still Iraqis more killed during

CHAPTER 07 / 50 Discussion

Obama Administration Drone Strikes in Yemen and Waziristan

Recent drone strikes in Yemen's Sabawa province and Pakistan's North Waziristan region resulted in the deaths of several suspected Al-Qaeda members and civilians. The hosts track these events via the "Kill List" website, noting the frequency of strikes during the Obama presidency. They highlight the strategic location of these strikes near planned pipeline routes in the Shawwal Valley.

yemen· waziristan· drone strikes· al-qaeda· kill list· barack obama

16:33 The Obama presidency than during the Bush presidency? Yeah, it'll add up. Yeah, it adds up. Yeah. Oh, speaking of which, killlist.curry.com everybody. Let's take a look. We had our Tuesday meeting, the Kill List meeting. And what did we do? We picked off five suspects in Yemen with a drone. in the Sabawa province, central Yemen, killing five. Let's see. Yep. All members of Al-Qaeda and two others who were traveling with them. Oh, sorry. Well, you still count as terrorists if you're traveling with them. And then we had eight in Waziristan.

17:21 Crazy how that happens. Waziristan again, John. Right there where that pipeline's coming through. Coincidence? Drone missile struck a house in the Shawwal Valley where militants were reported to be hiding in the North Waziristan tribal region near the Afghan border. Well, we got you, didn't we? So we put those on killlist.curry.com. I'm now dating it. Each entry, every single time I add to the kill list. And so far, every single show I've been able to add a new entry to the kill list. So we're doing quite good. That's great. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's bitchin'. Pretty soon we'll have killed everyone. You know, there's so many things. So many places to go. I think I should probably hit you. You know, you were kind of poo-pooing

CHAPTER 08 / 50 Discussion

British Parliament Debate on Leaving the European Union

Prime Minister David Cameron and other members of the British Parliament engaged in a matter-of-fact debate regarding the potential for the United Kingdom to leave the European Union. While Cameron expressed support for continued membership in the single market, other MPs argued for the return of governing powers from Brussels. The discussion reflects growing Euro-skepticism within the UK government and friction with EU leadership.

david cameron· david miliband· european union· brussels· uk· referendum

18:14 the Libor rate-fixing scandal which is now taking place? Yeah, yeah. I did listen to the British Parliament's... I watched that whole thing, three hours. Yeah, I watched it too. I almost got a clip out of it. No, there was no clip in there. You got a clip? No, not from that particular thing because it was boring. I have a good clip though from that meeting which I thought was At least got my attention. Serious discussion about leaving the EU and what it would take for Britain to do it was being bantered back and forth between the Prime Minister and both sides of the aisle.

18:55 And it's a little, the clip's a little long, but it's kind of fascinating because there's so matter-of-fact about, well, we could stay in, it's very advantageous to stay in, but we don't want to do this and we need our own, you know, we need to get some of our laws back. We shouldn't have Brussels telling us what to do and it's screwed up. What would we do if we quit? Is there any, you know, I thought it was weird. It was so matter-of-fact. A warm endorsement of Britain's continued presence in Europe. But does he also agree with me that those who wish to take Britain out of Europe Now I have a duty to provide detail as to what the political and economic cost would be, rather than vague promises of the Elysian Fields. I think my right hon. Friend makes an important point, which is we need to make sure that the whole debate about our engagement in Europe is properly informed. I do support our membership. I do think the single market is vital for us, and determining the rules of that market matter for us.

19:51 But I think it's important we air these facts and figures and the balance of competencies review that will be launched shortly will help, I think, all parties, all politicians, all parts of civic society in Britain to see some of the arguments and some of the facts and the figures. And I think that will help inform the debate. Mr David Miliband. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Further to that question, I wonder if there are any circumstances further to his negotiations in which the Prime Minister will recommend to the British people that they should leave the European Union? As I said, I want to stay in the European Union because of the reasons I've given, but I will always stand up for the British national interest as I see it. That is the job of being Prime Minister. Mr Peter Lilley. My right honourable friend will know that my opposition to excessive centralisation of power in Europe has never been in doubt. Indeed, the only doubt which my Euroscepticism has given rise to was that which John Major cast upon my paternity.

20:47 Will the members agree with me that what we need is not a commitment to an in-out referendum But a commitment to insisting that our partners give us back powers to govern ourselves If they want our agreement for them to subordinate themselves further to centralization in Europe You know I'm pissed now because just before the show my entire system crashed because of all this bullcrap flash and Adobe that just seizes up your system and I was looking and

21:23 I was looking for a clip which I had marked in my notes from the European Parliament where just before they did a whole bunch of votes, which we'll talk about, Barroso stood up and said, yeah, hello to our UK contingent. And he was waving his finger at them. Like, I really don't like your prime minister talking about leaving the Eurozone. This is bull crap. I don't want to hear that. It was really a shut up slave moment. I'll have to find it for Sunday. Oh yeah, I want to hear that. He's referring to this specific incident. Exactly, and I'm so pissed now because I just ran out of time, I had to reboot the machine. But I'll mark that, I'll make sure I get that. I want to go back to this LIBOR thing.

CHAPTER 09 / 50 Discussion

LIBOR Interest Rate Fixing Scandal and Derivatives Market

The LIBOR scandal has exposed widespread manipulation of the London Interbank Offered Rate by major global banks. This benchmark rate influences interest rates for trillions of dollars in financial products, including the $600 trillion derivatives market. Analysts warn that lawsuits resulting from the rigging could potentially unwind the global derivatives trade if more banks are found to be involved.

libor· barclays· interest rates· derivatives· cnbc· banking scandal

22:08 Because now LIBOR is the London Interchange Bank overnight rate. It really sets the interest rates for the entire world. And of course this story coming out really is the scam. know It was nothing more. It was like watching Rupert Murdoch, you know, like, yes, there were some elements in the company. I'm disgusted. It makes me sick to my stomach. You know, and it's like it's a show for the idiots. So the news can pull some boring ass clip, which we couldn't even find something was so boring. And they probably are all showing, oh, I'm disgusted. It's just a single, you know, rogue traders, rogue elements, whatever. But on CNBC, they were talking about this.

23:07 And this is this is really the truth. Oh boy the truth on CNBC. What may be less trivial is this situation, this scandal involving LIBOR. Oh, well, welcome to the bank industry. I mean, come on, you know. No, but you know, you hear about these things. You used to think that these were conspiracy theories, right? You hear this about people manipulating. Those idiots like Curry's just conspiracy theories, but it turns out it's true. By more people manipulating the silver markets and you'd say. And they are. And they are! And they are! We all agree! Well, it's because these markets have become so concentrated that a few players can do it. If you had 20 or 30 clearing banks setting a lot more, it would be harder to do. Do you think that they've conspired together or they're just conspiring internally?

23:50 It's like all markets. We're just talking about guilds in Europe and the taxi industry. It's the same thing. They want to limit competition and increase their own spreads. That's what this is all about. But how bad is it going to get? Is there a lot more? You think there are many more shoes to drop? Who knows? I mean, it wouldn't surprise me. I work in the city of London, so none of this surprises me. I mean, it's, you know, same old stuff. Hey, what are you talking about, idiot? We know this is going on. Here's the problem with it though. Now, besides that it sets interest rates and they've been scamming, every single derivative, and what are derivatives now? $600, $800 trillion? I think President Obama actually admitted that he knew it was a $600 trillion market. It's unbelievable. Every single derivative

24:34 is based on LIBOR somewhere in the transaction. I know I've studied these. I built a derivatives trading desk for Bankers Trust before they went out of business for falsifying derivatives trading. They didn't know what they were doing. The British guys know how to do it. Well, it was all British guys. And it's literally just like, I'll take this and take that. There's some faxes that exchange. Nothing's documented. There's no regulation. But lawsuits are now starting to happen and this could unwind the entire derivatives trade. If more banks, if it turns out that more banks were involved and if more people come forward, then people who have derivatives are going to say, well, hold on a second. You were screwing me because you rigged the LIBOR rate. So I was either paying too much, too little or whatever. I mean, it's falsifying stuff.

25:27 And that's the danger of this, is that the derivatives market could start to unwind through lawsuits. And I don't know if it's going to happen, but this certainly is an interesting crack. I predict it's not going to happen, at least in any big way. It probably happened with a couple of big players, especially after the first couple of people wind up dead. Yeah. Well, that's... 600 trillion, I think there's a lot of potential here. Yeah. For some actual two to the head stuff. Yeah. Meanwhile, things still not right with the banks in Gitmo Nation East in the UK. It's interesting how, you know, this of course is the RBS and NatWest software upgrade glitch. But it's interesting how all the mistakes that are made, like people paying their mortgage twice, their car payments debited twice, no one's getting like a deposit twice.

CHAPTER 10 / 50 Discussion

European Bank Software Glitches and Santander Issues

Major banks in the UK and Spain, including RBS, NatWest, and Santander, have reported significant software glitches following system upgrades. These technical failures have resulted in customers being unable to access accounts or seeing incorrect balances, with errors predominantly favoring the banks. The hosts suggest these "glitches" may be a convenient way for struggling Eurozone banks to manage liquidity.

rbs· natwest· santander· banking glitch· software upgrade· spain

26:25 Every single, and maybe it's because people get like, oh, I got extra money, I'm not gonna say anything. But every single thing you read about this is about people getting screwed out of their money. And now Santander has this problem. So, I'm not sure, is Santander part of RBS? I mean, I didn't think it was. Who owns Santander? Santander Bank, I have no idea who owns it, but now they're having problems. And either say, oh, you know, we all the online systems are sluggish. You know, sorry, you can't give you an accurate accounting. I get per day, maybe five.

27:06 Sometimes ten emails of people over in the UK saying you know I can't log on I'm getting you know Account balances from three days ago, so this is this is not just you know it's like something That's always one one guy a low-level guy who messed up the upgrade please you're so insulting to me It's the largest bank in the eurozone Spanish Bank. Well. They got a problem. There's okay well there you go so they have a problem with their online system something is happening and I'm just thinking more and more these banks like do whatever they can just to not have to pay anything because you know like you know It's like what you do at home. You know that is oh yeah, you don't pick up the phone You didn't get it you see the caller ID. Yeah, I was like oh, it's another bill collector Don't answer the phone You know and wait until you get your check in so Zombies abound there at the eurozone. It's not good. It's not good

CHAPTER 11 / 50 Discussion

Executive Producer Donations and Wedding Karma

Bill Hurtha from Thornhill, Ontario, becomes the Executive Producer for Episode 423 with a $423 donation. The hosts discuss a spelling error regarding Adam's fiancée, Mickey, and offer "wedding karma" to donors. Another producer from Illinois contributes $200 to become an Associate Executive Producer, seeking job karma in return.

bill hurtha· mickey· wedding· donations· executive producer· karma

28:06 Before we continue, how did we do? Did we do okay for a July where no one cares about us? Well, we just got by. We do have an executive producer and an associate executive producer. We have a 423 club member. That's nice. Yeah, we have Bill Hurtha in Thornhill, Ontario. $423 to be executive producer for show 423 with 423. Let me offer my best wishes to Adam and Mickey. Oh interesting, he misspelled Mickey the same way you did in your email, John. Thanks for that. Did I spell it wrong? Again. I didn't spell it M-I-C-K-Y. After I sent you a note saying, hey you need to, before you send this out, please change it. Oh you know, the spell checker must have reset it. You can teach it words, you know. You can tell it to learn the spelling.

29:01 Anyway, Miss Mickey received that without the E on their upcoming wedding. I'd like to thank both of you for bi-weekly mental floss, my regular cleansing of the mental crud that is deposited by the crap I hear on the regular media. Thank you very much. The donation puts me over the top and he's going to be a knighthood and he's got some accounting there. Yeah, Miss Mickey is on the list, you know. She's like, does John just really hate me? She's not saying that. It was, I'm telling you, Mickey, Mickey, it was a spell checker. Sir Anonymous in Napierville, Illinois, $200.

29:40 Thanks to the best podcast in the universe looking for some job karma and karma from Mickey and my CKY and Adam a karma double shot if that's possible. We'll just count it twice. Thank you so much. You've got karma. Yeah, we leave on Monday. And Sir Anonymous is that means we got work to do my friend. That means Sir Anonymous is associate executive producer. I'm sorry I'm slow today. And that's it? Yeah, that's it. That's two people. Right. You know, that's a great... Yesterday was a holiday. Nobody... You know, I'm sure people... Yeah, a holiday only in America. How about the rest of the world? No, the rest of the world cares. The rest of the world just continues. You know, they... Spain won, you know. So they'd have to drink all night. Um...

CHAPTER 12 / 50 Discussion

Domain Name Registrations and Drone University

Listeners have registered several new domain names to support the show's mission, including "DroneU.com" and "ObamasLittleHelpers.com." These sites are intended to redirect to the podcast and highlight the increasing use of autonomous drones. The hosts encourage the propagation of their media analysis formula to a wider audience.

drone university· obama· domain names· propaganda· marketing

30:33 So anyway, I want to remind people they can help us out maybe improve our Sunday numbers with a visit in the org slash na channel to work comm slash na no agenda show calm or no agenda nation calm and Bring up our country contributions. So I will reiterate that if you'd like to support the program as a value for value only if you're getting some value out of this and you think it's worth it Consider what you're spending on other avenues of entertainment and maybe you could save on that and help us out so we can continue what we do And even though I've stopped this initiative I could not

31:27 Pass up the opportunity to thank two producers who did register some domain names for us And I'm okay with mentioning these John in Nebraska. No is he Yeah, I think he is yeah, he's at the University of Nebraska. I think anyway he He registered drone you calm As in drone university and I like that for to know agenda show calm and a lot of people still trying to come up with words for the autonomous drone fleet that will soon be flying over our skies making their own internal autonomous kill decisions we had guardian angels we had the will of course Skynet and Who was this I didn't get his name I

32:15 I'm gonna have to put it in the show notes. He registered Obama's little helpers comms Which I thought was kind of a good one So if you think you'd like to send someone to our show site just send them to Obama's little helpers calm It's something we all can remember and of course you can always go out and do something very important, which is propagating our formula Our formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth. I Never gets old, but she says she says it so angrily yeah, just let me just You know that girl is growing up to be no good She'll be good. Well. She'd be actually should be excellent Gonna be a mean date Yeah for sure for sure

CHAPTER 13 / 50 Discussion

Nigel Farage Criticizes EU Leadership and Bailouts

Nigel Farage delivered a scathing speech in the European Parliament, mocking the "breakthrough" claims of EU leaders regarding the European Stability Mechanism (ESM). Farage criticized the unelected status of President Jose Manuel Barroso and the lack of credibility among EU officials in the eyes of international markets. He noted that several countries, including Finland and the Netherlands, have faced internal legal challenges to the new bailout vehicle.

nigel farage· herman van rompuy· jose manuel barroso· g20· european parliament· esm

33:22 When we could stay in the eurozone for a little bit that seems to be you know now the boys was fantastic we had this big breakthrough as haiku Herman called it the big breakthrough for gross and stability in the eurozone and The euro popped up and what is it? It's right back down where it was I think The man were a big fan of Nigel Farage Of course had to stand up in the European Parliament and say a few words. I don't have to ask you, I know you'll love hearing him. Well that's the 19th crisis summit that Mr. Cameron's been to. As the Rolling Stones might say, the 19th nervous breakdown. And that's reflected I think by the funereal mood in this chamber this morning. Yes on that Friday morning, breakthrough was cried and indeed Mr. Van Rompuy parroted the word this morning, breakthrough! Nobody believes you.

34:22 The wheels are coming off. This European stability mechanism, your new bailout vehicle, is doomed before it starts. We have legal challenges in Ireland and in Germany. We have the Estonian Justice Minister saying it won't fit their constitution. But most fun of all, the Finns and the Dutch seem to have broken the agreement that was made in the middle of the night. Perhaps they were excluded from this. Perhaps the little countries don't have a say in Europe at all anymore. It's not credible. And I think the euro crisis now looks to me to be frankly insoluble. And there's also a massive crisis of leadership. It's lovely to see you Mr. Van Rompuy. You've not been here for many months. It's delightful to have you back. Last time you were here you told us we'd turn the corner. By the way, you have to watch this video in the show notes. 423.nashownotes.com. Van Rompuy is so uncomfortable with this.

35:17 He doesn't know what to do. He's like, his hands are moving all over his... Well, calling him out for never showing up is something. Well, you think that's bad? Wait until you hear what he says to Barroso, which you and I could have thought up this line. This is a great line. that the worst of the crisis was over. And with every one of your predictions, it goes on getting worse. I'm sorry, sir, you don't have the presence, the credibility or the standing for the international markets to believe that you can provide a solution. and Mr Barroso here at the G20 when he stood up at the press conference and said, we don't need any lessons in democracy, said the unelected president of the European Commission. I mean, he went on to say that the EU... How funny is that?

36:02 That's a good one. He's a genius. I couldn't have said it better myself. I wonder what billionaires they've been hanging out with because that's obviously a reference to some specific incident. Oh yeah, that's alerting all of the media. Oh crap, we got to go down to the south of France. We got to go see who's getting on the ship. So let me just give you a little rundown of what's happening in the

CHAPTER 14 / 50 Discussion

European Stability Mechanism and Dutch Senate Approval

The Dutch Senate approved the European Stability Mechanism (ESM) rescue fund, despite the country currently operating under a decommissioned cabinet. The ESM allows for the direct recapitalization of banks using taxpayer money borrowed by member states. Under the voting structure, the combined support of France and Germany ensures the fund's implementation regardless of opposition from smaller nations like Finland.

esm· netherlands· finland· germany· taxes· bank recapitalization

36:46 in the Euro land zone. So he, Nigel spoke about Finland and the Netherlands as we discussed blocking the ESM, the European Stability Mechanism, which as you remember was not supposed to be implemented for another year or two. And I was, and I called this, I said this thing is going to be moved forward. This is the big one. It's a blank check. You know, it starts off with 700 billion euros paid for by all the slaves from your taxes. Of course, your countries don't have the taxes. They have to borrow the money. To hand over it's now going directly into the bank. So that's your tax money going directly into commercial companies ie banks to recapitalize the whole system great and It's if there's a cash call Countries have seven days to ante up. Otherwise, you know you go to jail or whatever something bad happens to you and

37:40 The Netherlands was like, you know, you heard Nigel Farage there say, well, you know, they don't count. You did in the middle of the night. The Netherlands can't vote on stuff like this because they have a decommissioned cabinet. They don't have elections until the cabinet fell over this very issue. But it doesn't matter. As it turns out, I have the here I have it here. They cannot block the emergency funds. You'll recall maybe if you remember We were going through how the voting structure works and we basically figured out if France and Germany say yes to anything, all the other countries can just go pound sand.

38:16 So indeed for the ESM only 85% of the votes are necessary. The Netherlands and Finland are too small to block the decisions, but it's all moot point anyway because the Dutch Senate approved the ESM eurozone rescue fund just two days ago and so now that's a shoe in even though by law they really can't even make decisions like this. So that's done. That's in and literally your tax money or whatever your You're on the hook for as a taxpayer because your countries will borrow it is going directly to banks, which is just ludicrous It's like the banks So I see you have a clip so I'd love to hear your clip the and and this is a red herring Distraction by the way, and I have I have the the reasoning why? Acta the super secret

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European Parliament Rejection of ACTA Treaty

The European Parliament voted to reject the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA), a controversial international treaty aimed at strengthening copyright enforcement. Activists like Jeremy Zimmerman hailed the victory as a turning point against the "spiral of repression" pushed by the entertainment industry. Opponents argued the treaty threatened online freedom and the ability of users to share and remix cultural goods.

acta· copyright· european parliament· internet freedom· piracy· jeremy zimmerman

39:14 What is called a copyright act that the entire world is signing on to that we've been told We could not know about in its entirety Because there will be riots in the streets. This is what our politicians here have told us the eurozone rejected acta in their vote And you have a clip here of that? Yeah, this is a rundown on... I had to actually cut this way back because there's a... Because it was boring. It was run on RT so it had all its nastiness to it about the Americans and the Australians signed it but the Europeans were smart enough not to.

39:54 kind of angle and this is the story basically. A top story then a sigh of relief from Europe's internet users the EU Parliament rejected the notorious online piracy treaty actor. The anti-counterfeiting trade agreement was drafted to protect internet copyright laws but met with widespread outrage in Europe for threatening people's web freedom. Well, my colleague Inis Anawi Bedellia spoke with the Citizens Advocacy Group founder Jeremy Zimmerman. He believes that copyright laws must be reformed but not at the expense of online users. This victory must be the beginning of something else and through the victory on Akta,

40:31 We hope that the EU policymakers will understand that this endless spiral of repression that is being pushed for the last 15 years by the entertainment industry has to stop. our cultural practices online is not an option and would only be done at the expense of our fundamental freedoms and of the very fabric of what is a free internet. So we have concrete proposals and they're already on the table of the EU policymakers about reforming copyright, about making our cultural practices legal, that sharing and remix of cultural goods be made legal into the law so we can end

41:13 this war against sharing. Certainly people are going to be arguing that ditching ACTA could be a green light for pirates and fraudsters to openly defy copyright law. Briefly, what do you say to that argument? Well, what I say is that it's the notion of copyright itself that should be revised. We all have the capacity today to participate in culture, to share, to rip, to remix. We are all participants to culture and it is a fundamental right. It is copyright that should be adapted to society and not the other way around. All right. Great words there, French guy. However, the EU Commissioner of International Trade

CHAPTER 16 / 50 Discussion

Karel de Gucht and Insider Trading Allegations

EU Trade Commissioner Karel de Gucht announced that the Commission would continue to pursue ACTA-related proceedings despite the Parliament's negative vote. De Gucht has a controversial history, including allegations of insider trading involving Fortis Bank shares in 2008. He is also known for his candid remarks about the intentional unreadability of the Lisbon Treaty.

karel de gucht· fortis bank· insider trading· lisbon treaty· eu commission

41:53 That would be a Belgian guy, and he's a very interesting fellow. His name is Karel de Gucht. Here's his words, and I quote. I don't have any audio or video, unfortunately, but he said the following. Just before the vote, if you decide for a negative vote before the European Court rules, let me tell you, the Commission will nonetheless continue to pursue the current procedure before the Court as we are entitled to. A negative vote will not stop the proceedings before the Court of Justice. So he's going to kick this up a notch. If the court questions the conformity of the agreement with the treaties, we will assess at that stage how this can be addressed. So he goes on to say at the end here,

42:34 Once we will have identified and discussed the possible clarifications, I would intend to make a second request for consent to the European Parliament. Whether the Parliament will consider it under this legislature or the subsequent one will be for you to decide. So what he's saying is... This is the same thing they said to the Irish. Yeah, it's basically... Shut up, slave! Yeah, you're gonna keep voting until you vote yes. Yeah, and you voted no, okay, let's do it again. Even if it's the next parliament, you know, it's like, well, just do it again. We don't give a crap about, you know, this guy, Karel de Gucht, this guy is a total a-hole. You should look at his wiki page. I didn't spell it. K-A-R-E-L. Okay, hold on a second.

43:22 K-A-R-E-L space. Uh-huh. D-E. Uh-huh. Space. G-U-C-H-T. G-U-C-H-T. This guy. He was involved in insider trading, like here, November 2008 he was minister in the federal government. He looks like a dick. Exactly. He was accused of insider trading in the case of the near bankruptcy and subsequent nationalization sale of Fortis Bank. On October 3rd 2008 his wife Mireille and brother-in-law sold their shares in Fortis Bank after a government crisis meeting to deal with the precarious financial situation of the bank hours before the public announcement that the Dutch arm of the bank would be nationalized.

44:04 And he says, hey man, they sold like 500,000 euros worth of Fortis shares before the news came out. He's like, no man, I didn't tell them anything. They were just, you know, they just got lucky. Got lucky. Exactly. In a 2007 interview, he said the following about the Lisbon Treaty. The aim of the constitutional treaty was to be more readable. The aim of this treaty is to be unreadable. The constitution aimed to be clear, whereas this treaty had to be unclear. It is a success. This guy is numero uno douchebag. He's obviously working for Hollywood interests. Just look at his history.

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EU Legislative Approvals and Agricultural Policy

While the ACTA vote dominated headlines, the European Parliament quietly approved several other reports and deals. These include trade terms with Russia regarding oil and gas, new agricultural payment structures, and resolutions for universal access to basic bank accounts. The hosts express concern over the "Trilog" negotiations and the potential implementation of Agenda 21 policies through these reports.

agriculture· russia· animal protection· banking· trilog· agenda 21

44:48 Yeah, he's a sleazeball. He's a total sleazeball. So here's what the... That was a good catch by the way. Well here's the stuff that kind of threw me for a loop. So everyone's talking about act to act to act it but during the same session here's the things that the members of European Parliament did approve. A series of reports by the Agriculture Committee on Agricultural Policy which I'm looking into for Sunday show. They approved three deals to improve trade terms with Russia. That would be oil and gas. Adopted a report on proposals to make direct payments for farmers fairer across the EU. Agenda 21. Adopt a report on the mandate for trilog negotiations on the 2013 budget. No idea what that means. Adopted a report on the EU strategy for the protection of animals. Yeah, and they will be more protected than humans, I'm sure.

45:45 Adopt a resolution on the establishment of an EU legal framework for the protection of stray pets and animals. There you go. Adopt a resolution calling for all EU citizens to have access to a basic bank account. Of course. We need to have your money electronic, bitches. You can't have any cash anymore. And then some other stuff. But so I'm going to look into the agriculture thing, the direct payments to the farmers and this banking thing is troubling. And what was that other one you said you didn't get? It was Trilog. What was that? Yeah, the Trilog. Where is it? It's Trilog. Yeah, Trilog. I guess there's a dialogue and there's a Trilog. Adopt a report on the mandate for the Trilog negotiations. Well, let's take a look at the Book of Knowledge.

CHAPTER 18 / 50 Discussion

Nicolas Sarkozy Fleeing to Canada Amid Investigations

Former French President Nicolas Sarkozy and his wife Carla Bruni have reportedly left France for Canada following the expiration of his political immunity. French police recently raided Sarkozy's home as part of an investigation into illegal campaign financing and bribes from L'Oreal heiress Liliane Bettencourt. It was also revealed that Sarkozy spent billions of euros on personal opinion polls during his presidency.

nicolas sarkozy· carla bruni· canada· dominique strauss-kahn· corruption· france

46:36 If there's any entry for it. Trilog. I guess that's three parties, so who could that be? The Trilog. United States, Russia, and them? I don't know. Yeah, something like that. And I do want to try something here by doing some French news since we have exactly one listener in France. Oh yeah, the French hate us. Yeah. And it's a very interesting Sarkozy. And apparently, you know, I've come to the conclusion they're cheap too. Just like the Indians. So Sarkozy and Carla Bruni have fled to Canada. They have left the country. Of course, his political immunity ended on June 16th when he was no longer the president. And it turns out that, well, there's a couple things going on. One, it seems that there's a $100 billion hole in the budget that wasn't clear, that they didn't know about. That's not just popped up on the radar. It's all over the French press.

47:31 He still is being investigated and they've had police officers and inspectors raid his home. So they actually raided his home and came out with boxes. You know, that's usually not a good look. No, I don't think that's a good thing to see. But here's some of the stuff that the French are getting pretty angry about. And this is, here's your smoking gun. Sarkozy, during his reign of terror, ordered 264 opinion polls about himself, while president, at a cost of 6.35 billion euros. Wow! I thought you were going to say 6 million. 6.35 billion euros and according to what I'm reading... That sounds pretty corrupt. Those opinion polls shouldn't cost that much. But here's the problem.

48:30 During 2009 and 2010 all of these opinion polls came back with the same answer. The guy more popular than you is Dominique Strauss-Kahn. Four months later Strauss-Kahn arrested for pumping a maid. Right, and then further arrested because he came back to it once that fell apart he came back to France to high popularity again so they had to screw with him. Again, again. So they busted him running a prostitute that turns out he was a pimp! His wife finally got fed up with the whole thing and left him. He's like, yo, Dominique man, DSK bro, easy on the pimping, okay? Isn't that crazy? Yeah, that's great. And I'll do one more and then I'll get out of here. That's pretty dirty. Anyway, but Sarkozy has fled. He's in Canada. He's hiding out. And this, by the way, I don't think this is public knowledge yet. Let me see. Mr. Oil is feeding me this one.

CHAPTER 19 / 50 Discussion

German Secret Service Report on Eurozone Collapse

A leaked 2009 report from the German Secret Service (BND) warned that the Eurozone would face a collapse leading to a potential World War III unless 10 trillion euros were invested. The report suggests that current stimulus efforts have fallen far short of the necessary threshold. Meanwhile, Sarkozy remains in Quebec, staying with wealthy associates while his political and personal life faces increasing scrutiny.

bnd· germany· eurozone· world war iii· economic stimulus· carla bruni

49:33 Who happens to be in France right now boy gets around? Yeah, apparently he left the night before the raid on the last flight out to Canada before the raid home, man the German Secret Service the BND Bundesnachrichten Dienst in 2009 received the Mission to find out what would happen if the economic stimulus stimuli across the eurozone would not work or what it would take to stop the inevitable. And their report has now been leaked. And they say that unless 10 trillion euros is invested, and I think the total amount that was invested is like more like three in the eurozone. Would you say that's about right? 3.2 I think is the number. There was 3.7. I actually don't remember. It's somewhere around that number between three and four. According to the German secret service,

50:38 If they don't invest at least three ten trillion dollars within three years that would be now this report was done in 2009 and within three years World War three would erupt That's a good one. That's not a good one. That's not good. No, I mean, it's a good fine Yeah, but we can put our heads in the sand all we want but this is happening. This is actually happening around us and Banks like making software upgrade mistakes like hey, you know those guys were cheating on live or derivatives falling apart Come on, man. We live in interesting times Confucius So a Sarkozy ran off to hang out or to be toddled by the fourth richest Canadian this guy De Marais oh you have the news that he's there now and

51:34 Yeah, it's actually been running in the British papers. And so he's apparently ran off to the... this guy's worth 4.5 billion which is chicken feed by comparison to somebody. This guy's low level. But he came under fire after Sarkozy apparently was taking bribes from Lillian Betancourt, L'Oreal heiress. That's what the whole investigation is about. France's wealthiest woman. Yeah, that's what the investigation is about. And so the whole thing is falling apart for this guy. So he's in Quebec. I give him six months before Carla Bruni kicks him out. Oh, she'll be out of there. She can't put up with this. She's going to go back to Mick Jagger or something. Someone a little more less political.

52:18 Yeah, no, I agree with that. We can put it in the Red Book. Yeah. I mean, she's not going to stand for this. You know, she was living large. First lady of France. You know, the only downside is she had to wear her flat shoes, couldn't wear high heels. And she's done with that now. I can just see her. Nicola, I'm done. I'm done with you. And I'm going to put on my high heels, you little twerp. I have a musical career to attend to. Yeah, women like that love wearing big heels. Yeah. And she's beautiful. She's beautiful. She doesn't need this hassle. He really doesn't need the hassle, I'm sorry. So the Desmarais family also maintains relationships with the French Dassault Industrial Dynasties, Peugeot and Rothschild among others. They're aircraft people, Dassault. Yeah. They also own a nice Saint-Emilion winery by the way. You would know that, wouldn't you? I've had it, it's good wine.

CHAPTER 20 / 50 Discussion

WikiLeaks Release of Syria Files and Media Strategy

WikiLeaks has begun releasing over two million emails from Syrian political figures and ministries, dubbed "The Syria Files." The documents are being distributed through specific international media partners to highlight the inner workings of the Assad regime and its corporate suppliers. Critics suggest the release is timed to support Western intervention efforts, noting that Hillary Clinton is visiting Paris to coordinate with the "Friends of Syria" group.

wikileaks· syria· julian assange· hillary clinton· finmeccanica· propaganda

53:14 Interesting. This is going to be good. Yeah, it's following it. Give us a little French news for a change. Yeah, well, maybe some of you are one French listener can, you know, kick in and give us some info. I mean, that's that's the best thing you can do is feed us some information. Let us know what you're seeing on the street. You know, send us a message through Minitel, whatever it is, Minitel while you're at it, you know, consider supporting the show. You cheap bastards. Yeah, that's for sure. So anyway, Same old script, they're doing it again. It's just, just can't get enough of how they're trying to attack Syria. So, you know, we've tried everything. We've got, you know, we did our Geneva meeting. Man, not too much came out of it. By the way, Lucifer Clippity-Clop Clinton took our advice. Where is she going this week? Where is she going to be tomorrow?

54:08 Paris. Of course she needs to. I mean, if you've seen what she's been looking like. Her hair looks like crap. So you watch, she's going to look fabulous. Yeah, for about two or three days. You know, why doesn't she have a full-time professional? She's got the budget. No, but it's the French hairdressers, they don't travel. They're like, you come to me, Hillary. Hillary, you come to me. I don't feel like traveling to all your crazy destinations. I think there'd be somebody they could send to hang out with her. So what Hillary... I mean, the last time I saw her, she was at this thing about slave trading, which I had... I didn't get a clip for it, but I might for the next show. And...

54:50 She had her, she was wearing a ponytail she's gone that far off. Yeah, oh no, that's when women are have, when they're fed up with their hair, it's ponytail time. Yeah. They just pull it back, ponytail, and which is a kind of a cool look, but not on her. Not on a woman that's 70. Please, now don't be ageist. Isn't she? No, she's not that woman. No. She's in her 60s. I'm being ageist? She's 63. Okay, well almost 70. So, Wikileaks, oh, we have all the communications about how bad the Assad regime is. Woo! And all the horrible companies that are sending weapons. What a coincidence. Oh, and this is such a setup. And of course, it's not like they released the two million documents to us. No, says Wikileaks at Wikileaks.org, which I thought didn't work anymore, but it apparently just works.

55:41 Over the next two months, groundbreaking stories derived from the files will appear in Al-Akbar in Lebanon, Al-Masri Al-Yom in Egypt, ARD in Germany, Associated Press in the US, L'Espresso in Italy, ONI in France, Publico in Espagne. All other publications will announce themselves closer to the publishing date. This is, we've seen this before. This is how the CIA does it. And all of a sudden, Julian Assange, he's our hero again. And you know, they've released three, like three or four documents this morning, because this is a release from today. And you know, the first one is an Italian company, Finmeccanica, you know, they were supplying communications equipment to the Syrian police, the bastards. Come on, man.

CHAPTER 21 / 50 Discussion

Human Rights Watch Report on Syrian Torture Centers

Human Rights Watch released a report detailing 27 alleged torture centers operated by the Syrian government, citing grisly accounts of abuse. The report is based on 200 interviews, many conducted via telephone and Skype, which the hosts argue lacks rigorous verification. The organization receives significant funding from George Soros's Open Society Foundation, leading to questions about its impartiality in the conflict.

human rights watch· syria· george soros· torture· bashar al-assad· skype

56:31 You know, so this is just who are we gonna call out? You know, who was our enemy? Who are we gonna make like a doofus? And of course we're gonna make Assad look like a total a-hole, which is being done in conjunction with my favorite institution, don't be confused by the name, Human Rights Watch. Now Human Rights Watch is receives an annual $100 million grant from George Soros Open Society Foundation. And they've come out with a damning report, I tell you. Headline! We made them suck their own blood off the floor!

57:13 What? Headline! Headline from the report! We took their fingernails out with pliers and made them eat them. We made them suck their own blood off the floor, grisly accounts from inside serious 27 torture centers. Yes, Human Rights Watch report released as Syrian President Bashar al-Assad says he regrets the shooting down of a Turkish jet. These people are horrible. Detainees were beaten with batons and cables, burned with acid, sexually assaulted, and their fingernails torn out and they had to suck their own blood. So I'm like, I got to read this report. This is some good stuff in here. Here's the, here's, so you want to always look at the report and what it's based on.

57:57 And this is what I do as a government legislation analyst. This report is based on 200 interviews conducted by Human Rights Watch since the beginning of the anti-government demonstrations in Syria. Most of these interviews were conducted by telephone and Skype. That's their proof. This whole report is based on 200 people they Skyped with who said, hey man, they were pulling out our fingernails and made us suck the blood. I'm sorry. So it sounds pretty far-fetched. This is bullcrap. And look who's behind the report. Come on people. But these headlines, it's just too much. Oh yeah, no this guy's toast. And uh, this was fantastic. I think this was uh, I think this was CNN. You're gonna love this. So CNN, I think it's CNN, we'll know in a second.

CHAPTER 22 / 50 Discussion

Defected Syrian Journalist Describes Media Manipulation

A former reporter for Syria's Al-Akbariyah network, Athan Sleba, defected to Turkey and described how the state-aligned media manufactures news. Sleba claimed that journalists pre-interviewed citizens and told them exactly what to say to support President Bashar al-Assad. He characterized Syrian journalists as "liars to the nation," a description the hosts suggest could apply to Western media outlets as well.

syria· al-akbariyah· bbc· propaganda· journalism· defected

58:54 There's a journalist who escaped, a Syrian journalist from that television station that got blowed up, the state television station. Right. No, actually it wasn't. It was an independent television station that was promoting state issues. Right. Correct. So you're going to hear this journalist explain to you how horribly corrupt the media is in Syria. Now the fun exercise here is whenever he says Syria, just think America. Whenever he says Assad, think CIA or Bush or Obama or fill in the blank or Tony Blair or Cameron. This is how it works. He's actually explaining how it works. But of course we're led to believe this only happened in Syria. Great little opening music.

59:46 Syria's Al-Akbariyah network portrays a reasonably straightforward world. I think it's maybe the BBC report actually. A brave government leads the fight against foreign-led terrorists. Every day, the channel broadcasts the same message. Athan Sleba reveals how it's done. He used to be one of the network's reporters. And last week he defected and escaped. He defected, great word by the way, defected to Turkey. We talk to people before we interview them. We did a pre-interview. Syrian citizens don't know anything. They don't know what to say. So we tell them what to say on TV to get the best report that we need.

1:00:34 As a journalist, my success is in getting the report to the channel. I do the reporting and I present it to the citizens, to the nation. For example, we tell the interviewees to say to us that they support Bashar al-Assad and that they will always support him. And they accept this and they say whatever I tell them. We do this to please the authorities who watch us. Does this sound familiar at all? This is exactly what we do. Exactly. At the channel. Who gives the instructions about what you can say and what you can't say? The Ba'ath party sometimes appoints a representative to give orders on their behalf. It's a PR company. They generally contact us. It's the same as us using a PR agency. We have the PR person with the CEO even, depending on what part of the media you're with. Exactly. And they won't let the guy say anything other than what they allow him to say. Exactly. Through an information office where our orders come from.

1:01:30 The committee tells us to go and film this particular event, to take pictures of the martyred and so on. Right. Yes? Did you broadcast anything that you knew was false? We produce the news according to what the channels managers want. If I produce a report that echoes their opinion, then I get a bonus. But if it's based on my opinion without representing their view, it won't get on air. For example, Syria's energy minister says there is plenty of petrol available. But in reality, there aren't enough supplies in the country. We journalists are liars to the nation. The people can't trust us.

1:02:09 And this situation is frustrating. The guy who is to BBC, I'm sorry. The guy who's doing this interview must be thinking, crap, man. Sounds familiar. Liars to the nation. Hey, clip of the day. Oh my goodness. Oh, you're so kind. Well, hold on a second. That's uh, well, I'll take it. You know. We are liars to the nation. How awesome is that? How awesome? This is like 26 seconds. I'll play it, play the whole thing again. I mean, it's fantastic. Your allies, Qatar and Saudi Arabia, are really financing and pouring arms into Syria. If you stand so, you know, so principally against the influx of arms into Syria, can't you lean on your allies to stop doing so?

1:02:58 Said we've talked about this many many times here today. We've made our decision other country. Oh, sorry. I'm completely in the wrong clip Same day that he arrived in Turkey gunman raided one of the channels offices near Damascus They destroyed its studios and killed seven staff members. Because they were made to lie. But now they kind of, this is an interesting, they're talking about misleading the public. It was a known fact because it was taken credit for that that TV station was raided and and blowed up by the rebels. Yeah.

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Taco Bell Gourmet Menu Product Placement on CNN

CNN's "Starting Point" with Soledad O'Brien featured a segment promoting Taco Bell's new "Cantina Bell" gourmet menu created by Chef Lorena Garcia. The hosts criticize the segment as blatant product placement disguised as news, noting that the entire panel was shown eating and endorsing the food. They argue this represents a decline in journalistic integrity and a blurring of the lines between news and advertising.

cnn· soledad o'brien· taco bell· lorena garcia· product placement· advertising

1:03:38 So now they're trying to imply that it was the government that did because of this guy defecting? Give me a break. No, I just thought it was hilarious how he's actually telling us how the news works. Oh no, that's the best part because that's exactly the way it works everywhere. And we know because... Except on this show by the way. We've been in the media so we... This morning I didn't have a chance to clip it. I saw on CNN, who's our friend that used to be on the tech TV CNET, what's her name? The black girl come on come on come on Soledad Soledad O'Brien. Oh Soledad. No she was never she was on something MSNBC She was never on tech TV. No, but she did techie stuff didn't she?

1:04:16 Mm-hmm didn't she do this she ran something called the site, but it wasn't it was kind of she was just thinking about no I work with her like I've worked with her. I met her I've talked to her I've had chatted with her for I didn't work with her except maybe two or three times But I had enough conversation. She's one of the sweetest people. She's very sweet. She's super cute and And she's really trying to make her mark during the summer weeks on CNN because she gets to fill in for Anderson. Well, she was put on the fast track to become an NBC heavy duty national. Something went wrong. Yeah, something went wrong. They were training her on MSNBC when it was more of a tech channel. And then somewhere along the line, she got bumped by some other, you know, multi-culti looking woman.

1:04:59 who then disappeared and she got fed up and left. So this morning just before the top of the hour they come back from a break and there's four people at the table and this is a news show and she says well we've got two interesting news Taco Bell is now doing healthy food. gourmet food at Taco Bell and they've all got their They've all got a plate of healthy Taco Bell food in front of them And literally they're like wow this is really good. Yeah, and it's healthy too. It's like

1:05:35 I mean, at least give me the pleasure of putting like a little bug in the bottom saying this is an ad. It was just, it was a complete advertisement and they had even the desk lit up with like the new slogo, you know, the Cantina Bell menu, whatever it is, with Chef Lorena Garcia. It was so unbelievable. Yeah, I've been a funny clip. Yeah, yeah, well CNN right yeah, it'll show up somewhere. It was just corrupt I was just like wow you know how can you do that so anyway the clip that I misfired here? Was so we had two State Department press conferences July 2nd and July 3rd Which were posted very late, and I got them this morning. I missed all of my Adobe flash blow-up and

CHAPTER 24 / 50 Discussion

Saudi Arabia Arming Syrian Rebels and Asset Divvying

State Department briefings have openly acknowledged that Saudi Arabia and Qatar are financing and arming the Syrian opposition. Meanwhile, the "Friends of Syria" working group, including the German organization GTZ, is reportedly already discussing the future distribution of Syrian state assets. The hosts compare this to the post-war reconstruction of Iraq, where international corporations divided up national resources.

saudi arabia· syria· hillary clinton· gtz· germany· reconstruction

1:06:17 And just hilarious how open it is now. We're trying to follow Syria and give you some real insight and some real information. And so what's happening now is the Saudis, Saudi Arabia, they are sending weapons and guns and probably troops and al-Qaeda or whatever into Syria. And of course, Turkey is going to get all the blame for it, but the Saudis are doing it. And so this is just being discussed. completely openly in the State Department press briefings as if it's the most normal thing in the world and everybody knows it. Your allies, Qatar and Saudi Arabia, are really financing and pouring arms into Syria. If you stand so principally against the influx of arms into Syria, can't you lean on your allies to stop doing so?

1:07:03 Sayyid, we've talked about this many, many times here today. We've made our decision. Other countries are making other decisions. Our goal now is to try to stay coordinated on all of these issues having to do with the opposition. Yeah. So we all know it. We all know Saudi Arabia sending weapons and money and everything. That's their business. It's not like they do whatever we tell them to do. It's not like we have any relationship with the Saudis or anything. And she's like, you know, hey, that's what they do. We do this, you know. This most normal thing in the world. We do this, they do that. And that's that. Yeah, whatever. You know, it's all good. So the friends of Syria, they are meeting, the friends of Syria are meeting in Paris, chosen by Lucifer, Hillary, Clipety, Klop Clinton, so that she can get her hair done. And I've been trying to figure out who's at the table there. And one of the parties is GTZ.

1:08:02 And the GTZ is the Deutsche Gesellschaft für Internationale Zusammenarbeit. This is the, when East and West Germany, or when East Germany re, was that re, we had the reunification? Right. This is a mega mega corporation which was many companies rolled into one. They have a huge huge building I think in Berlin. And if you watch the movie, which I've mentioned before cut a stroika, you'll see that these guys is a whole like 15 minutes on them These guys are at the table. They're in the working group and so that we in America we call them the GTZ is their acronym and they are already divvying up all of the assets of Syria That's what the meeting is about

1:08:52 I got this huge article which I can't even get through but you can look at it in the show notes 423.nashownotes.com. These guys are already, I mean the whole meeting is not about what are we going to do, it's like who gets what. That's what this whole working group is about. Yeah, obviously. This is the kind of thing that started World War I. Well there you go, you know. I mean they like to do these meetings, they do this you know there's a certain elite layer. They put these meetings together and that's exactly what they do, they divvy things up. It's just like Iraq? I mean when they Africa was doing they started drawing actually I think Africa and the Middle East when they started drawing boundary lines that this country will be the end here and the other country will start there, they dissolved them like this.

CHAPTER 25 / 50 Discussion

Donald Rumsfeld and Gas Pipelines in Georgia

Former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld visited Georgia to discuss security for gas pipelines that bypass Russian territory. This visit follows similar trips by Hillary Clinton and other Western officials to ensure President Mikheil Saakashvili remains aligned with NATO interests. The strategic goal is to secure energy routes from Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan through Turkey to Europe.

donald rumsfeld· georgia· mikheil saakashvili· pipelines· russia· nato

1:09:51 Where's the border between one African country and another? It's determined by one of these meetings by these Europeans. So... At least we're in the meeting. We're definitely in the meeting. I'm sure that they resent that, by the way. What? Yeah, we're in the meeting. Who resents it? The Europeans. They don't like us being in these meetings. I mean, you know, Hillary's pushed herself into the top of the heap and it's like God has to annoy these guys. Well, there's so much happening. There's so much jockeying for position. Donald Rumsfeld was in Georgia.

1:10:39 Last week. Why? Well, because, you know, we need to bring the gas pipelines through Georgia. Remember Lucifer was there like two or three weeks ago. And now he's a he's a he's a pitchman now. He's a pitchman for whatever, you know, whatever pipeline or security for the pipelines or whatever it is. And so and who else shows up? Haiku Herman shows up in Georgia. They're all they're all They're all going to Georgia to ensure that the guy's on board, because the guy is insane. He eats his Thai, he's clinically insane, Sakasvili. So they got to keep their eye on him and make sure that everything's okay, because he's not a member of NATO yet, and that's what he wants, so they keep dangling the carrot in front of him. But they need to bring that pipeline through, so then we can screw the Russians.

1:11:31 And that's why we're still there. We've got to bypass all the Russians and get it straight from Turkmenistan. I'm sorry, Azerbaijan. So, Boku, Azerbaijan, right through Georgia, and then across the water there, and then pipe it through Turkey. I mean, just look at the players. Just look at the players. And then, you know, Russia is still like, oh man, we're losing our Syria deal. You know, they're trying to work it out with Israel so they can go through Cyprus. It's a big race. The big race is on. Yeah, there's some arms deals involved in this too. Oh yeah. And guess what? We're not involved in any of them. No, in fact, it's not even being reported to the public. This whole thing with the Rumsfeld in Georgia.

CHAPTER 26 / 50 Discussion

Ultra-Orthodox Jewish Military Service Controversy in Israel

A major political debate is unfolding in Israel regarding the exemption of ultra-Orthodox Jews from compulsory military service. Many secular Israelis are resentful that this growing community lives on government stipends while avoiding the draft. The issue has become a top political priority, touching on the fundamental character of the state and the balance between religious study and civic responsibility.

israel· ultra-orthodox· idf· military service· stipends· social tension

1:12:24 I mean, I've been noticing less and less weird stuff is being reported to the public. I got this... Hold on a second, John. You're telling me that it's not valuable to know that Taco Bell is now serving gourmet food? I'm going to see if I can find a clip of that. I guess that Doritos thing is crapping out. I'm going to see if I can find a clip of that. You definitely have to get that clip. Chat room help me out here hook a brother. I mean there's a number of things that the American Americans never find out about one and somebody pointed I think it was Jace buzzkill jr. That pointed out that there's like an edict about about Jew anything about Israel internal anything about Israel's not to be reported by anybody for whatever reason and

1:13:09 But of course other media outlets, international ones, have no problem. The biggest scandal going on right now is the, is the, they want to, there's a group of, when you go to Israel you see these people all over the place, ultra-orthodox Jews. Right, they got all the strings hanging down. They got this, they got, and they're wearing black, and they got a crazy hat. No, I like the hat. The hat I think is badass. It's like a, you could refold that to a pimp hat. I like those hats. And by the way, A lot of Jewish people don't like the Orthodox Jews. No, most of them don't. And the Israelis really don't like them. Many of them come from a couple Brooklyn cults and they're all over Israel. And the thing about them is they're kind of warmongers, but they refuse to take part in the military because it's beneath them. And I have a report that you'll never hear in American news that's right here. The army, we are hurting this principle of separation.

1:14:03 The problem is that the ultra-orthodox Jewish community has grown over the decades from just a handful, now tens of thousands are exempt from what should be compulsory military service in Israel. Many Israelis are resentful of the fact that ultra-orthodox Jews live off government stipends. Full-time religious studies mean few are employed in the standard labor market. There is a growing narrative here about how the rest of the country is footing the bill for this one community. I think that every Israeli citizen should have individual rights and individual responsibilities, and they should be drafted as individuals, and they should serve, and they should serve honorably. There is no doubt that they should serve.

1:14:47 There's no doubt that the ultra-orthodox should serve in the army. There's no reason why my 18-year-old friend should be protecting them at checkpoints, whilst they're just sitting at home. It's become the top political issue, more so than others because criticism of the ultra-orthodox community is part of a perpetual debate about the character of Israel, how secular it should be or how Jewish. Any decision by the government to put these men into the military would disrupt their personal quests, they say, for spiritual growth and reflection. Have you heard about this? No, of course not.

1:15:28 It's like the number one topic? No. What? Okay, whatever. No, no, no, no. While you're... Do you have something to say about this? No, I've no I've oh I knew this was gonna come to a head someday because they keep flocking over there and it's just like it just bugs because I know Israelis and they just hate these people and then they moan about I was taken through one of their communities by some one of these ultra-orthodox haters and he says the people live like they live like pigs. He says if he takes me through this neighborhood yeah Yeah, all the garbage is outside. There's dogs barking at everything. It's really like being in the worst kind of...

CHAPTER 27 / 50 Discussion

CNN Continued Promotion of Taco Bell Cantina Menu

The hosts revisit the Taco Bell promotion on CNN, highlighting the repetitive nature of the "gourmet" narrative across different news segments. They note the inclusion of a money-back guarantee in the reporting, which further aligns the news content with a commercial sales pitch. The segment is described as a "disgusting episode in the history of broadcasting."

cnn· taco bell· lorena garcia· money-back guarantee· advertising· news

1:16:10 Slum in you know like a favela in Brazil terrible Wow now while you were wasting your time trying to find some actual news Here's what the chat room found mentally What do you think people are gonna be looking for and what you're offering versus what they need to meet to meet you listen? I'm putting my name. I put in my face. I'm putting my reputation on the line for this menu, so I'm bringing that choice I'm bringing that different I'm bringing the focus that you're gonna be able to have the first bite and you're gonna be able to go for more so specifically what So instead of what I have here, which looks like green... So I brought, you know, I was raised on my rice bowl, you know? I love cilantro, everybody knows that. So I wanted to have that as a common thread throughout my menu. I bring the black beans that I was raised on, black beans and rice. You're going to be able to have this wonderful grilled chicken that is made with this wonderful marinade. They're all my recipes. You have the grilled corn. This is CNN promoting the gourmet menu.

1:17:02 It's and it's here it is that this is from starting point. That's the name. I like the wonderful marinade She uses an adjective to describe everything. Well, let's listen to some more cuz Taco Bell goes with his chef Lorena Garcia I've heard some vegetables in the sweeteners of the corn. They got a sauce. I have a cilantro sauce that is Coming on I'm very visual so you're going to be able to see it. I like to see my food. And this isn't the report that I even saw this morning. This is a whole different report. So they're doing it over and over again. Oh, you didn't have the Mexican chef?

1:17:38 No, she's she Mexican. Yeah, I guess so Garcia. I hope so You know that she's got the biggest grit one of the better fake accents Economic menu a dollar two dollars yours are gonna cost a little bit more but one thing that people don't know is Many people don't know is that it talk about you can actually get your money back if you're unsatisfied and they're offering that they have a money-back guarantee Bud Wade there's more That's what your news is doing ladies and gentlemen. Thanks Thorne in the chat room for finding that one. I wish you could find the other one. They're doing it over and over. This is product placement plain and simple. Ya think? And host endorsement. Yeah, the whole panel is there. And so are they. They're all endorsing it. This is a disgusting episode in the history of broadcasting. Well the good news is no one saw it. Yeah, I guess that's true.

CHAPTER 28 / 50 Discussion

Rahm Emanuel and CARE Advisory Committee in Chicago

Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel has appointed Ahmed Rehab, the executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) in Chicago, to a new Office of New Americans Advisory Committee. Critics point out that CAIR was named as an unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation terrorism financing trial. The committee's goal is to make Chicago the most immigrant-friendly city in the world.

rahm emanuel· chicago· care· muslim brotherhood· immigration· terrorism

1:18:35 Interesting news out of Chicago, now of course run by Rahm Emanuel, the bathhouse buddy of our president. The Chicago chapter of the Council on American Islamic Relations, we've spoken about this before, CARE, issued a press release announcing that Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel, President Obama's former chief of staff, has announced an Office of New Americans Advisory Committee That includes the ex-executive, the executive director of CARE in Chicago, Ahmed Rehab. Really? Yeah. That took a lot of guts. Now CARE, for those of you who don't know, is noted as one of the quote, unindicted defendants of the Holy Land Foundation trial.

1:19:26 Which pretty much puts care as a front for terrorism. Yeah, it is. It's totally a front. And this, of course, is the Muslim Brotherhood. And it's a here it is the committee's goal that he is now going to be an advisor to is to generate recommendations, develop strategies and present an overall vision to promote the city's economic vitality and ensure global competitiveness by coming the most in immigrant friendly city in the world. All you terrorists out there, Chicago welcomes you. But it being Chicago, I mean, what can we tie into this?

1:20:09 How am I supposed to train? I mean my brain is hurting from this. I don't know. This has to be something else is going on. Well, this is the we know the Obama administration loves the Muslim Brotherhood. You know to put them in charge of reshaping the city of Chicago a little brazen. Yeah. Yeah. You think someone might notice apparently not. Apparently the media hasn't picked it up. And by the way, you know this Saturday, I don't have a clip about this, but this Saturday are the Libyan elections. Oh, yeah, that'll be great. And so they expect, because they have the same slate of thousands of candidates, but it's debatable whether or not they're going to slip in some Muslim Brotherhood style, some Islamists, some Salafists or something. Oh, no, of course they will. Of course. That's the whole idea. We got Egypt, we got

CHAPTER 29 / 50 Discussion

US Recognition of Mexican Election Results

The Obama administration quickly congratulated Enrique Peña Nieto on his victory in the Mexican presidential election, despite ongoing allegations of voting fraud. During a State Department briefing, journalists questioned the inconsistency of this rapid recognition compared to the cautious approach taken with Vladimir Putin's election in Russia. The spokesperson admitted that the U.S. government is "not always consistent" in its diplomatic responses.

mexico· enrique peña nieto· vladimir putin· state department· election fraud

1:21:03 We're going to have Libya and eventually we're going to have that in Syria. Yeah, that's the whole idea here. Mentioning elections, you know, we had a big election south of the border and we have a new perhaps president-elect in Mexico. Although that's being disputed. There's all kinds of voting fraud going on and But very quickly the United States came out and said congratulations the president's like hey congratulations new press looking man by the way Yeah, he's a handsome fellow and so this came up in the July 2nd State Department briefing and the question was how come you're so quick to congratulate this guy when you know it's not really

1:21:52 Been proven yet that he you know there's a little investigation going on you know is it's he's not really the president-elect yet officially The answer is just too beautiful to be true tangentially related to Mexico, which is just Why are you so quick to congratulate the president-elect on partial results when it you refuse to do that for? Do you hear what he said? You refuse to do that for someone for Putin or for Putin Which is a great question is a great come on. That's a great question. That's that same guy That's matters all these pointy or asked all the pointy questions. That's Matt. Yeah, that's Matt. Yeah, Matt kicks ass here We go well we have we have good confidence in these preliminary results and in the integrity As I said, we have good confidence Yeah

1:22:44 Well, we, you know, as you often point out, Matt, we're not always consistent. We're not always consistent. We're not always consistent. It's our government at work, not always consistent. And it also tells us that Obama does not like Putin and Putin does not... and we saw it. If anyone wants to see any picture of the two of them together and Putin is leaning, he's gonna fall out of his chair leaning away from Obama. Yeah, it's a little obvious. He really does not like Obama at all. No, it's quite obvious what's going on there. And he got along fine with Bush.

CHAPTER 30 / 50 Discussion

Mysterious Disease Outbreak in Cambodia

A mysterious and deadly illness is sweeping through Cambodia, primarily affecting children between the ages of one and three. The disease causes high fever, brain swelling, and rapid lung destruction, with a near 100% fatality rate among hospitalized cases. The hosts speculate on whether the outbreak could be linked to recent vaccine trials or environmental factors in the region.

cambodia· phnom penh· mystery disease· vaccines· h1n1· children

1:23:21 He used to hang out at the ranch shoot things. Yeah, there's some good pictures of them. Hey George Let's go shoot some things. We're talking about news again that for getting to our donation segment, which is gonna be short Yeah Do you know about the mystery disease sweeping Cambodia? Mystery disease sweeping Cambodia? See, this is another example. I've changed all my news-watching habits. You have changed your diet. This is another unreported story, by the way, when it crops up, when it finally shows up in this US of A, it's going to be, you know, there'll be some scam involved, but right now there's no scam involved, so it's just a story and listen to it. And now, word of a deadly illness has only increased the daily lines of those seeking medical help.

1:24:10 Outside this hospital in Phnom Penh, thousands wait to see a doctor. I'm so worried about this mysterious sickness. I only want my child to get better. Just what is killing Cambodia's children remains unknown. Doctors have recorded the same patho-symptoms. First a fever, often swelling in the brain, and then the sudden destruction of a child's lungs. Wow. All these cases were hospitalized here. Now totally 66 cases and 64 cases have died. Wow. Again, unreported.

1:24:48 Again, our news media is not of interest. It's just that apparently kids between the ages of 1 and 3, they're little kids, are catching this thing left and right. And nobody can identify it. They have not been able to find out what it is that's causing it. There's just complete mystery to everyone so far. High acceptance and uptake of Gardasil preventative vaccine in Phnom Penh, Cambodia. That's where I'm looking. Well, it's possible. That's where I go. But these are young kids, right? So maybe... Yeah, they're one to two year olds, basically. So let's do UN... This is how we do the research. Vaccinations, Cambodia. Let's just see what they're shooting them up with. What are we shooting them up with there? H1N1 vaccine. It's probably testing something. Probably testing some vaccine.

CHAPTER 31 / 50 Discussion

Listener Donations and Canadian Independence Day

The show receives a variety of donations from listeners in Florida, New Jersey, and Canada. One donor highlights the B+ Foundation for childhood cancer research, while a Canadian listener sends a "protest donation" following jokes about Canadian culture. The hosts provide "Huntsman karma" and "fuck cancer karma" in response to specific listener requests and stories.

canada day· poutine· donations· karma· childhood cancer· petersburg

1:25:49 That's what I'd say. I'd say they're testing a vaccine. It's a possibility. I'm not going to argue that it's not possible because we've seen this kind of thing before and who gives a shit? The population is too high in these areas anyway. We ran out of African kids. No, we ran out of African kids to kill. Yeah, they've gotten a clue that they won't take the vaccines anymore. I'm going to show my support by donating to KnowAgenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. I want to thank a few people for helping us out on show 423 and we have 424 coming up which is a palindrome. Oh that's right it's the same forwards as backwards. Yeah 424. 423 is not bad it's got two three and a four it doesn't have a one.

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CHAPTER 32 / 50 Discussion

Republican Party Politics and Portuguese Economic Climate

A donor from Texas, active in the Republican Party, requests anonymity to avoid political repercussions from "RINOs." Another donor, a German living in Portugal, explains why the Portuguese are less likely to protest economic conditions compared to the Spanish, as long as coffee and beer remain affordable. He requests "getting laid karma" before returning to work in Germany for "Das Merkle."

republican party· texas· breast cancer· portugal· germany· angela merkel

1:32:13 I would like to dedouche Bernie Atima or Atima and although he has never donated he does propagate the formula every chance he gets giving 58 for his 58th birthday I would like to give him obey shut up slave to to the head. God man really obey shut up slave to to the head and that's it no karma? No it's well you know he didn't want karma he wants this give it to him. Okay You will obey me. Shut up! Anyway, they're in the process of starting a business and it'll all be done. Probably become more regular donors. Happy birthday, Dad, from David and Rose. Here's a toot of the head. Happy birthday, Dad. Nice. Somebody got tooted head. Anonymous in Texas, somewhere around you, I suppose.

1:33:04 I'm a Ron Paul supporter that is active in the Republican Party and this could be used against me by the RINOs. I heard about this show from Twit and started listening in November. I'm a new donor, need two shows per week. Sorry it took so long to donate, 5777. My wife is diagnosed with breast cancer in December, like a de-douching in a mill for her, Amy. Keep the slide whistle I saw on No Agenda shirt at the Texas State Convention. Keep up the great work and do not change a thing. Don Donno, I'm to list do not drone list drone list. Oh my god. Dronto list Dronto list. I wish you could put that as a title of the show Donna Dronto list Donna Dronto list This is our new code word in the morning Donna Dronto list Dronto list will eventually point to no agenda you can sell subscriptions. D douching and milf and is there karma in there?

1:34:00 Donadrontalist. Alright, de-douching in MILF. Here we go. And I'm gonna give her some fuck cancer karma. Just... look at the camera. Okay, here we go. Anonymous Drunk gives us 55.55. Hello, John and Adam. Please keep me anonymous because I'm donating drunk. I started listening to the best podcast in the universe after Adam's appearance on Twit. And this is my first donation, so I need a de-duching. I'm a German living in Portugal and it makes total sense to me that Portugal did not win the European Championship. Portuguese people never really complain about anything. As long as a coffee in a bar is cheaper than 70 cents and you can have a small beer for under a dollar 20 euros.

1:34:52 It is why it makes more sense to let the Spanish win as they tend to start occupying public places when they are unsatisfied. As I have to return to Germany soon, I request getting laid, Karma, to make the departure a little easier and distract me from the fact that as soon as I have to return to being a human resource working for Das Merkle. Please keep up the good work. You've got Karma. Sweet! It's a great place to hang out. Yeah. Actually didn't he we needed a de-douching too. I'm sorry You've been de-douched

CHAPTER 33 / 50 Discussion

Refinancing Struggles and HIV Terminology Debate

Listeners share stories about the difficulties of refinancing homes and upcoming trips to Comic-Con. A donor from New Zealand challenges the use of the word "homophobic," suggesting "gay-phobic" is more linguistically accurate. Other donors seek job karma and health karma for their families, while one listener expresses frustration with the "doom" of current news cycles.

refinancing· comic con· new zealand· homophobia· gay-phobic· karma

1:35:32 Seth Ralston in Worthington, Ohio 5510 I've been a douchebag spelled weirdly for far too long two people I've hit in the mouth have donated now it's my turn if you're if if you if it's your will bestow on me some house franchise fight refinance karma good luck with that we were expecting to close on Thursday but due to some paperwork issues is not looking good because it's a scam he thinks they want a blood sample all right well here's some refined refi karma We hope it works for you. Let us know if that actually worked. Yeah, because it doesn't seem to want to. Because there's no refinancing really available. Robert Gold in Toronto, Ontario 5510 Double Niggles on the Diamond. A Church Karma shout out to Christina Fabiani for

1:36:16 Transferring her $110.43 worth of donations to my almost a nightclub fund. With her help and today's donation, I'm close to topping off many years worth of donations and I'll be a knight before the iPhone 5 comes out. Minuteman Stu and Dara will help me find some good trinkets and trash for you in the morning at Comic Con. Christina. That's just, it's Christina. Yeah. You've got karma. She came in on Roberts account. I right right got it. Yeah, Christina. Give us some something cool Keith Miller can't know how double-niggles on the dime. I'm not drunk, but JCD's drunk voice always makes me laugh I'm donating on behalf of my little brother Kyle Miller's 28th birthday on July 5th I Got him listening years ago, and he probably loves the best podcast in the universe more than I do oh We both have painfully long commutes and would be lost without the show

1:37:08 Thanks for all the news and entertainment. My brother would love a birthday shout out. We got him on the list. Yeah, Richard Terry, Houston, Texas down in old Houston. 5268 is my last month of employment. Please give me some karma for the new job and a new place to live. You've got karma. Hans Petterfeld in Oslo. $50 greetings from Oslo Norway have a good marriage I love you guys. Thanks for the show shout out to the hackery all right What's the hackery? It's probably some restaurant. Forget the hackery, what's up with us getting married? News to me. Confusing. Eon Larson, Auckland, 50 bucks. First, I don't drink and don't do bath salts or weed so I can't get John to do a funny voice which is value in itself. I know you get a lot of emails and probably won't have time to deal with this one on the show but I've listened faithfully to the show since episode 183 and was an executive producer of Show 333.

1:38:08 I'm planning to contribute next month as a birthday present for myself and a wedding celebration for Adam and Ms. Mickey. But in line with my policy of only offering production input with production contribution, I offer the following along with the $50 contribution. Please remember that the EU monetary crisis is not being kind to the exchange rates for the Gitmo Nation Kiwi, so it cost me near on $64. Recently I felt quite strongly about two things Adam has mentioned and wanted to get them off my chest. Adam's recent concerns about the use of the word homophobic raised the question. There is really no such word in relation to irrational fear of homosexuality. Using the definition below, the word homophobic would refer to an irrational fear of things that are the same. In other words, homogenous.

1:38:52 Okay, well he says it should be gay phobic. Yeah, okay. Well you're you're splitting hairs Well, you're splitting the it's a commonality usage is not it's really more idiomatic than it is accurate. Oh, thank you I love it when you that's sexy when you talk like that idiomatic just say that to me idiomatic It's idiomatic. Adam Kolb, Sir Adam Kolb, or Kolby, in Menashe, Wisconsin, 50 bucks. Alan Bean, Sir Alan Bean in Oakland, California, $50. He says great stuff, great show. Nicholas Wallace in Nashville, Tennessee, $50. Last donation I sent to my place came up as Toledo, Ohio. I live in Nashville, Tennessee. Need some job karma, please, and keep up the great work and the best podcast in the universe. You've got karma.

1:39:41 Last few here, Michael Peters in Ashford, Connecticut. 50 bucks, I've been listening since day one, it's my second donation but I haven't been listening lately because it makes me frustrated. I need a little more inspiring or comedic stuff to offset my doom. Anyway, good job you guys. Come on man, we played Taco Bell, Hidden Commercials, we got all kinds of good stuff in here. We're hilarious. So, here we are. Andrew Haverson in Gravenhurst, Ontario, $50. And Sir Borislov Marinov, a Viso Viejo, California buddy. Send some good health karma to my wife and newborn human resource. Not a lot, but I hope this can help during the week season. We always appreciate it, Sir Borislov. You've got karma. Awesome. And then of course, Philip Meason in Welshpool, Pows, UK.

1:40:35 uh... fifty dollars and uh... that'll be our donor segment for this uh... show for two three remind people go to the right that works last n a and help us boost the numbers for sunday if you can both of them with the we have we have two problems at number one so we're leaving on monday we come back with exactly one week before the kickoff of the hot pockets two thousand nine tour which is in peril right now i do not have a trailer no one has come forward amin in all of the state of texas All the people that listen to the show, there's no trailer. So, I mean, we're planning to go on this trip. We've got producers ready and everything. There's no trailer. I can't even rent a trailer because these donations, you know, we're in July. Everything sucks in July. We're about to take two shows off after Sunday. Well, no, they're going to be a show.

CHAPTER 34 / 50 Discussion

Hot Pockets 2012 Tour Logistics and Trailer Needs

The hosts discuss the upcoming "Hot Pockets 2012" tour, noting a critical lack of a trailer for the trip. They appeal to the audience for assistance, explaining that July is typically a slow month for donations. The plan involves traveling across Texas and other states to meet with producers, but the logistics remain uncertain without proper equipment or increased funding.

hot pockets tour· texas· trailer· donations· july· logistics

1:39:41 Last few here, Michael Peters in Ashford, Connecticut. 50 bucks, I've been listening since day one, it's my second donation but I haven't been listening lately because it makes me frustrated. I need a little more inspiring or comedic stuff to offset my doom. Anyway, good job you guys. Come on man, we played Taco Bell, Hidden Commercials, we got all kinds of good stuff in here. We're hilarious. So, here we are. Andrew Haverson in Gravenhurst, Ontario, $50. And Sir Borislov Marinov, a Viso Viejo, California buddy. Send some good health karma to my wife and newborn human resource. Not a lot, but I hope this can help during the week season. We always appreciate it, Sir Borislov. You've got karma. Awesome. And then of course, Philip Meason in Welshpool, Pows, UK.

1:40:35 uh... fifty dollars and uh... that'll be our donor segment for this uh... show for two three remind people go to the right that works last n a and help us boost the numbers for sunday if you can both of them with the we have we have two problems at number one so we're leaving on monday we come back with exactly one week before the kickoff of the hot pockets two thousand nine tour which is in peril right now i do not have a trailer no one has come forward amin in all of the state of texas All the people that listen to the show, there's no trailer. So, I mean, we're planning to go on this trip. We've got producers ready and everything. There's no trailer. I can't even rent a trailer because these donations, you know, we're in July. Everything sucks in July. We're about to take two shows off after Sunday. Well, no, they're going to be a show.

1:41:30 Yeah, but it's... I explained in the email we got a... No donation segments, we won't be able to remind people. Oh, well, yeah. Yeah, then there's that, then there's the drop-off. This is serious crap. Yeah, and we do have... I want people to listen to those two upcoming shows because the show 200.6 should be quite entertaining. I do want to mention Kyle Kinzel, who is a... I think he's a monthly donor. I'd like some Border crossing karma for my family and I as we head back to the US from our fishing trip up in Canada would be greatly appreciated. Yeah, you're gonna need it. No kidding. You've got karma. Well anyway, so light and you know if you could help us out a trailer or a lot more on the donations on the upper end we have to rent one. I mean, I don't know otherwise what are we gonna do? We're just gonna throw everything in the pickup truck and just dry and where we're gonna sleep.

1:42:25 Hotels. Where am I going to do the show? Hotels? Motels. Keep it down, keep it low, low end. Thank you Bill Hertha for being our executive producer on today's program. 423 with your 423 donation and Sir Anonymous with $200 for your associate executive producership and everyone else and of course our monthly donors who come in at 5, 11, 11, 12, Dollars and 12 cents we'd love to get another 1212 night before things fizzle out and we still have some 30 a month Donors, so we really do appreciate that and for a dot org slash and a

CHAPTER 35 / 50 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony for Sir Bill Hurtha

Bill Hurtha is officially knighted as "Sir Bill" of the No Agenda Roundtable following his executive producer-level donation. The hosts perform the traditional ceremony, offering the new knight various humorous perks. They also thank Nick the Rat for the episode's artwork and acknowledge "Peppers Mama" for her help in identifying typos in the show's newsletter.

knighthood· bill hurtha· no agenda roundtable· artwork· nick the rat

1:43:03 David Adema or Atima, congratulates his dad, celebrating today, July the 5th. And Keith Miller congratulates his brother Kyle Miller, who likes this show more than he does. Turns 28 today as well. Happy birthday from all your friends here at the No Agenda program. And we have Dave, Bill Hertha coming in as a knight today. Um, well let's do the uh, hello? Here it comes! Gotta do the official ceremony.

1:43:39 Bill Hurtha, come on forward my friend and kneel down and make sure you email your ring size to rings at noagendanation.com That will ensure that you get one before the entire ring program stops at the end of the year We hereby pronounce thee and quite proudly Sir Bill Knight of the No Agenda Roundtable for you my friend over here We've got your hookers and blow your rent boys and chardonnay You've got your hot pants and booze and anything else you'd like as long as it's down and dirty You get that as a knight of the No Agenda Roundtable Remember responsibilities do come with your knighthood you have to and did we thank our artists? I don't remember. Oh, you're right. I'm sorry my faux pas We need to thank Nick the rat for last episodes artwork check out all of the art that the artists submit at No agenda art generator comm it's always very hard for us to choose and now we appreciate all the submissions we get

1:44:36 And I want to also thank Shana who goes by the names peppers mama who I send always in the newsletter to Immediately because she spots the egregious typos. Yeah spell checker really says and then of course once in a while the spell checker Yeah, great job puts an E in the word Mickey great job there great great great great. Hey You know we had that New Zealand donor. I wanted him have you seen who's seen what dot-com is up to I? The last I read is that they're blaming Joe Biden for this? Yeah, dot-com has a bunch of pictures of Joe Biden, I guess, doing lip kisses to people from the MPAA and the RIAA. And I guess there was a, he documented a massive meeting that took place with the White House and the Hollywood interest the day before they said... Oh really?

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Intermittent Explosive Disorder and Pharmaceutical Treatments

A new study suggests that over 5% of adolescents suffer from Intermittent Explosive Disorder (IED), characterized by episodes of extreme anger. The disorder is listed in the DSM and can be treated with a variety of medications, including antidepressants like Prozac and anti-anxiety drugs like Xanax. The hosts mock the medicalization of behavioral issues and the resulting reliance on pharmaceutical solutions.

ied· intermittent explosive disorder· dsm· mayo clinic· prozac· xanax

1:45:29 And he says that Obama, he believes that this whole incident that took place, which was completely turns out to be illegal in New Zealand. The whole thing was a quid pro quo to Hollywood by the Obama administration to get them to donate more. Well, this is a good strategy that we should be using. If you don't donate, we're going to arrest you. I like it. Well, those guys are smart. Yeah, they get around the ball. Well Obama's guys have nothing else. They know how to run a campaign So let me think do you think that the Hollywood media will report a lot on this story or? We think that they'll decide what has been reported on by anybody except us. Where did you read it? I read it somewhere I don't know where it is blog. Oh, right. Okay Well, it's clear John you and I are obviously suffering from IED

1:46:24 Which is Improvised Electronic Disability? I don't know. No, IED of course we know and it's... Improvised Explosive Device. Yes, carefully chosen for the same acronym as an Improvised Explosive Device but no. A big study came out, big study, big big study. 5% of all kids suffer from IED. An even larger percentage of adolescents suffer from IED. Can I guess what it means? Yeah. Improvised explosive diarrhea. You're not far off the mark. Intermittent explosive disorder. Yes, this is a part of DSM, the Bible for mental illness.

1:47:14 Does this have anything to do with spontaneous human combustion? No, I know you've been tracking that, but no. Oh yeah, that's my only crackpot item. Around the age of 12 or earlier, many kids over 5% of all, just over 5% of all adolescents between the ages of 13 and 17, according to a new study, report they have suffered attacks of anger or are destructive, frightening, and wildly out of proportion to any provocation. This is known as IED, intermittent explosive disorder. Wow! And now it can be... So if you get mad now... No, no, I have... Well, John, we have to make sure. Let's just see. Have you or any member of your family suffered from the following... Oh, the quiz. Yes, the quiz. Suffered from the following symptoms. It's a very short quiz and the way this is diagnosed is your doctor will sit down and speak with you and ask you these questions. If you can answer yes to any of them, then you can be diagnosed with intermittent explosive disorder. Question number one.

1:48:12 Have you had several discreet episodes of failure to resist aggressive impulses that result in serious assaultive acts or destruction of property? Yes, of course. Oh, sorry. I'm sorry. Don't shoot me. You already have it. Two, have you ever experienced the degree of aggressiveness expressed during these episodes to be grossly out of proportion to any precipitating psychological stressors? Yeah. And C. The aggressive episodes, are they not better accounted for by a different mental disorder? Well that we don't know. That's a hard question to answer. It's okay because there's good news. You can be treated for this. Oh! Yes, treatments according to the Mayo Clinic. That's a shocker. Now there is no one single treatment that's best for everyone with intermittent explosive disorder. Treatment generally includes medication

1:49:13 Individual or group therapy many different types of drugs are used to help control intermittent explosive disorder. I knew it. Let's see we have antidepressants such as fluoxetine which would be Prozac and Paroxetine which is Paxil so you can take those or anti convulsants anti convulsants, it's like that stops you from going into convulsions and which would be Tegretol or Dilanitin or Neurotonin or Lamacetol. Wow, I've never heard of these. These sound great. How about warm milk? Well, no, you can also try anti-anxiety agents from the benzodiazepine family such as Valium.

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GlaxoSmithKline Fraud Settlement and Dr. Drew Pinsky

GlaxoSmithKline agreed to a $3 billion settlement, the largest healthcare fraud case in U.S. history, for illegally marketing drugs like Wellbutrin and Paxil. It was revealed that celebrity doctor Drew Pinsky was paid $275,000 to promote Wellbutrin for unapproved uses on his radio show. Despite the company's claims that such practices are a "bygone era," the hosts argue that pharmaceutical shilling remains rampant in the media.

glaxosmithkline· dr. drew pinsky· fraud· wellbutrin· avandia· hln

1:50:03 Add a van, more Xanax, and you could also try John mood regulators such as lithium. Ah yes. So we're good to go. I think we should get diagnosed on this and get us some cool ass drugs. So meanwhile, of course you mentioned Paxil and some of these other drugs. Oh, Dr. Drew? We might as well be aware of the fact, and we have the clip, a drug company was busted for a few bucks. Oh really? Hold on a second, where's your clip? Oh here it is, yes. This was an interesting one. Pharmaceutical giant GlaxoSmithKline is to pay the equivalent of 2.3 billion euros in the largest healthcare fraud settlement in US history. Pending court approval, the agreement should resolve allegations that the British drug maker broke US laws in the marketing and development of three of its major drugs. Washington claims the size of the settlement is unprecedented. Healthcare fraud is an epidemic that touches every aspect of our lives.

1:51:00 And yet for far too long, we've heard that the pharmaceutical industry views these settlements as merely the cost of doing business. That's why this administration is committed to using every available tool to defeat health care fraud. The company has already admitted promoting two drugs for unapproved usage, while in the case of a third, its diabetes drug, Avandia, it failed to reveal health risks. Anywhere between 50 and 100,000 diabetics had unnecessary, unneeded heart attacks or death due to the drug Avandia. This drug hurt a lot of people.

1:51:39 GSK is also to be monitored for five years after being found guilty of paying kickbacks to doctors. The company's current CEO said the misconduct originated in a different era and would not be tolerated today. Oh yeah, right. That wasn't my fault, that wasn't on my watch. Well, the best part of the news of course about this case is that it turns out that Dr. Drew, who I have called out as a shill for the pharmaceutical industry for... We caught it early. Oh, we caught him on so many occasions, was paid $275,000 for two days of work to deliver quote messages about Welbutrin SR in settings where it did not appear that Dr. Pinsky was speaking for GlaxoSmithKline. That's what his contract states.

1:52:30 I believe... Wait a minute, didn't the CEO just said this is a bygone era, this sort of corruption? Didn't he just say that? I heard that, I heard that. I think Dr. Drew should be fired from CNN and he should be... Yeah. Yeah. For being a shill. And the funny thing is, the situation in which he brought this up was apparently one of the side effects of what was the drug he was pimping. Well, whatever it is. Yeah, yeah. Well, well, well, Butren is a well, butren. And I looked for the clip. I couldn't find it. Apparently one of his patients was on the show talking about how she had 60 orgasms in a row. That's one of the side effects. And he's like, yeah, that's actually quite that's some people enjoy that.

1:53:25 During the 15-minute segment, Dr. Pinsky communicated key campaign messages. The spot is almost a textbook for the way drug companies have used speakers to promote medicines. Everything Pinsky says is reasonable. Anecdotally, Welbutrin does seem to have few sexual side effects, but Pinsky's comments had the effect of giving airtime to a use of a medicine that Glaxo was not supposed to promote. Wasn't it that exactly what they said in this lawsuit that they were doing and then they were corrupting doctors? And didn't the CEO come out and say that was a bygone era, we don't tolerate that anymore and here it is right now in front of us? Am I missing something? Dr. Drew wasn't alone. He was one of a long list of experts listed in the complaint that the government says were paid by Glaxo as part of its promotional efforts.

1:54:21 Requests for commitment were sent to a manager for Pinsky, a publicist who had represented him, and through his HLN website, but were not immediately returned. Dr. Drew should be fired. He should be disbarred or dis... dis... dis... dis... disemboweled. Disemboweled. They should take his medical license away from him. He should never be allowed to show up as an expert anymore. And Sanjay Gupta, here, yo bitch, I got my eyes on you. You're next. You will show up next. Because it doesn't matter. These people, whether they... they'll promote Taco Bell, they'll promote Glaxo.

1:55:00 And they'll cover it as news and whatever. Great stuff. Yeah, and then people watch this crap. Let me see if uh... Graxo hired Dr. Pinsky... There's some other things. He had paid Dr. Pinsky $100,000 in March, $175,000 in April. God, what a gig. Yeah, sure better than our gig. Wow. Of course, where he at least can sleep at night, although I'm sure he can sleep at night too, he's got plenty of pills he can take. Yeah, Dr. Pinsky noted that the drug could explain a woman suddenly having 60 orgasms in one night. Yeah, this is bullcrap of course. The only reason you would say that on the air... Is to get people to buy it. Yeah, because some women who probably have trouble having orgasms think, well maybe I should try this, this sounds pretty cool. Hey, women, if you're having trouble with orgasms, try a different guy.

CHAPTER 38 / 50 Discussion

FDA Approval of Home HIV Test and Quad Pill

The FDA has approved the first over-the-counter home HIV test kit, which uses a cheek swab to detect antibodies. Simultaneously, a new single-pill treatment called "Quad" has been developed for HIV management. The hosts express skepticism about the high rate of false positives in the home tests and the long-term health effects of the antiretroviral drugs being marketed to the public.

fda· hiv· aids· quad pill· home test· false positive

1:55:52 That's my suggestion. Jeez. Anyway, we called him on that. So I got to take a really unpopular stance on something here, but it's really been annoying me. I've been keeping... I knew that this clip, which is 29 seconds from the BBC, I knew that it would come back and there was a reason for it. And this is how I track things. I got a pretty good system of archives and I think I'll stick that away because I know what's going to come up. Here's a clip from a few weeks ago as aired on the BBC. 34 million people in the world who are infected with HIV AIDS. Of those, around a million will die this year as a result of the illness. Those fortunate enough to be given or to be able to afford treatment usually take a cocktail of antiretroviral drugs. Lots of pills, in other words. However, a new single pill drug for HIV treatment has been developed after extensive clinical trials in the US. It's called Quad.

1:56:54 So, Quad is a new pill that has had extensive clinical trials and the recommendation actually is you might even just want to take Quad just even if you're going to have sex. And you may have noticed, and I didn't pull a clip because it made me so angry I couldn't even listen to it, but the FDA approved the first over-the-counter self-administered HIV home test kit to detect the presence of antibodies to HIV type 1 and type 2. And you do this by swabbing your cheek. Now what's interesting about the story And we know that we've learned from Gardasil that the testing guys and the guys who have the fix are always in bed together. So the new systems that test for HPV, for a human papillomavirus, they are set to deliver a high set of false positives so that the shot can be sold to you.

1:57:50 And here we have a home testing kit for HIV, not for AIDS, but HIV type 1, type 2. And I've done a lot of research into this and it's time for me to just take my stand and say it because I'm angry about this. This home testing kit is has a 5% false positive when you don't have it, and a 1% false positive if you do have it and it's a wooden register. So in 99% of the cases, if you have HIV antibodies type 1, type 2 in your system, only 1% of the times it will not correctly identify it.

1:58:33 If you don't have HIV type 1 and type 2 in your system, 5% it will misdiagnose that. And of course, the availability of the home use test kit provides another option for individuals to get tested so they can seek medical care if appropriate. And if you haven't, you basically you get the kit, you test it, and you should go anyway. That's basically what they're saying. I am one of millions of people, but really the ones who speak out about it are very, very few. It's not a popular stance. That the HIV, the human indeficiency virus, does not necessarily kill you. I believe the drugs that are then administered to you are the things that kill you. And I've seen this over and over again. Many people I know, friends have died of AIDS. And there is a consensus in the scientific community as well, not just me, that

1:59:28 If you go back to the 70s and the 80s, really late 70s, 80s, when this was prevalent and why amongst gay men, because you have this human immune deficiency virus, which through healthy eating and vitamins you can get rid of in a matter of weeks. But if you're doing all kinds of unhealthy things like, you know, doing poppers, snorting coke, drinking, doing crazy stuff, why are you doing that? I think you've gone down the toilet with this one. I am not... This is what you used to hear. Hold on a second, let me finish it. I seriously believe that HIV can't... that the virus... and John, there are... I have read at least 10 books about this. And there are many people in the gay community saying the same thing. So, you know, I've done more research than you have on this.

CHAPTER 39 / 50 Discussion

Debate on HIV Origins and Medical Consensus

The hosts engage in a heated debate regarding the history and treatment of HIV/AIDS. One host argues that the virus itself may not be the primary cause of death, but rather the lifestyle factors and the toxicity of the drugs administered. The other host defends the medical consensus, noting that AIDS was well-documented by the early 1980s. They also touch on similar skepticism regarding cancer treatments and government health screenings.

hiv· aids· medical consensus· genentech· janet napolitano· cancer

2:00:26 And I believe that the drug and with this test, this now proves to me they just want to get you on this fricking pill and none of it is good. Now what now you're saying I'm going down the tubes on this? This is a this this particular spiel. It was very popular in the 90s and then it fell into disrepute. Much of it was promoted by the retrovirus expert of experts at the University of California, whose name eludes me. By the way, the HIV thing began in the 80s. There was no 70s HIV period, despite all the reading you did. You know, it's

2:01:08 I've talked to people at Genentech and other places and they've been trying, you know, because when this thing first happened, I remember reading about when it first came out in, I think it was 83 when it first got discovered and there was becoming an epidemic really quick because nobody knew what the hell was going on. They, the litany then was, well, just give it seven years. Seven years was the rule. Anything that we know we've identified in seven years, we can have a virus, a vaccination for it. And then the problem was, of course, this thing was a... I would rather hear the notion that this was dreamed up at that Maryland facility by the US government to kill off half of Africa than this spiel that these drugs are killing people, although the drugs are not healthy. And the fact that they would tell you just to take the drugs over the counter is probably not a good thing. I agree with that.

2:02:06 So, you have a very poor and weak argument. Of course, you didn't have the same amount of time to prepare as I did. I didn't have any. I didn't expect you to come off the wall with this. And AIDS most definitely was detected in the 70s. I said late 70s. Most definitely. Most definitely. No, no, not most definitely. It was realized the term grid was misleading. AIDS was introduced in a meeting in July 1982. By September 1982, the CDC started using the name AIDS. Yeah, I'm talking about HIV, not AIDS. I'm still not seeing anything in 1987. HIV. What are you looking at? The freaking Wikipedia? I'm looking at stuff. And by the way, I have a similar stance on cancer as well. Well, fine.

2:02:54 No, and I'm not on the, you know, it was like, I don't believe the monkey theory, like some guy had sex with a monkey. I don't believe any of that. And I, and I've, I've done a lot of research on this and I really think that, you know, people need to evaluate what's being pushed on them here in your so-called risk group. Yeah. Well, I think that's, that's a positive thing, but that's okay. Well, I know. So what do you, what is your, uh, well, I, what I really despise And I have the same... Okay, here's your single infection 1969, blah blah blah, HIV 1978, you got me on that. But I remember when it came to the 4 was in the 80s. Yeah, that's when we decided it was a good scam.

2:03:46 Okay. These cocktails. What is it? Adam at curry.com? Yeah, oh yeah. I'll forward them to you. I guarantee you that a lot of people agree with me. Well, I'm sure a lot of people agree with you. Let's face it, this thing has been around now that you mentioned since the 70s. Apparently, the well-documented cases of HIV in the human days back to 1959, they've done nothing about it. And my own future wife disagrees with me on this one. Now, I don't know if she's, I don't think she's, she's witnessed AIDS a lot more than I have. But I've, you know, I have stacks of books here. And I'd be happy to put some links in the show notes if anyone wants to read it. But I really, now with this thing where here's the test, it has false positives, oh but here's the pill, and by the way, you can just take this pill. This is bull crap. No, it's bullshit. It really is. And it's hurting people.

2:04:39 They really had so in before you run off and get your little test and then go through the whole system and the same I know I same thing for the freaking elites who won't have a colonoscopy to check for prostate cancer because they know that you know the the treatment's gonna kill him. Yeah well it's like a Janet Napolitano won't walk through the naked body scanner. Exactly. But I certainly you have until Sunday if you want to come back and revisit this and have a different opinion But I don't believe it was dream dreamed up as some virus to kill everyone in Africa That's the human in the Russian theory human immune deficiency virus is an actual virus it is and it attacks your immune system and You know, how do you then start to die is when you're taking all this crap that's killing your insides and your immune system Can't keep up with it

CHAPTER 40 / 50 Discussion

Stars Earn Stripes Reality Show with Wesley Clark

NBC is launching a new reality competition show titled "Stars Earn Stripes," which pairs celebrities with military personnel for tactical challenges. The show is hosted by retired General Wesley Clark and features a cast including Laila Ali and Dean Cain. The hosts view the program as a propaganda effort to co-opt Clark and glamorize military operations for a prime-time audience.

stars earn stripes· wesley clark· nbc· reality tv· laila ali· dean cain

2:05:35 Okay, this is gonna. This will be that this is what people want They want this sort of thing in the second half of the show they've been complaining bitterly You got it. This is not a crazy. This is not I'm not crazy That's what they wanted and you got it ladies and gentlemen live with it. I'll give you crazy There's a new primetime reality show coming out God very similar to dancing with the stars and It is called... You're gonna love this. Stars Earn Stripes. Celebrity cast. Where star- I'll read the blurb here. A fierce and emotionally charged new competition honoring America's armed forces. The cast includes- Citizen. Oh my god. Sorry, where is it? I'm confused now. Where's my hey citizen? Hey citizen.

2:06:35 You're gonna love this. The cast includes four-time undefeated world boxing champion Laila Ali, actor Dean Cain, otherwise known as Superman, actor and former National Football League player Terry Crews, and multi-platinum recording artist, actor, producer, and television personality Nick Lacey. Lachey? I don't even know what this guy is. But who do you think is hosting this show? I'm gonna find out. Well normally you'd say Ryan Seacrest. That's what I was looking for that name. General Wesley Clark. All right!

2:07:20 Talking about co-opting the guy. Can you believe that? He's like unbelievable. Listen, Wes, Wes, listen man. You got, look, we know you did that thing where you gave everyone all the countries we're gonna invade. You know, we could have killed you, but we're gonna make you a deal. You're gonna shut up and you're gonna get your own reality show. Surprised you didn't have Mike Huckleberry. How awesome is that? I can't wait. It debuts Monday, August 13th, 8 to 10 p.m. This is a massive major. ABC, I think it is. Surprise, surprise. I'm going to definitely be watching. Yeah. So I got a couple of other clips I want to get to. All the news came in. There's a really funny story that ran on one of the

CHAPTER 41 / 50 Discussion

Pakistan Reopening NATO Supply Lines After Apology

Pakistan has agreed to reopen crucial NATO supply lines into Afghanistan after an eight-month blockade. The closure followed a 2011 incident where U.S. gunships killed 24 Pakistani soldiers. The reopening occurred after Secretary of State Hillary Clinton issued a statement expressing regret for the losses, which the Pakistani government accepted as a formal apology.

pakistan· nato· supply lines· hillary clinton· apology· drones

2:08:12 I think it was one of the versions of Al Jazeera. You know Pakistan reopening, you know those trucks have been held up for eight months. You know about this right? Oh and Pakistan yeah. A hundred million dollars extra a month because we had to take a different route. Right, and most of the trucks didn't take the different route, they've been just sitting there for 8 months. Before you get into that, can I just talk about the apology or is that in your bit? It's in the bit. Oh, okay, because I have a thing about that. Alright, go ahead. So apparently, the Pakistanis had all these demands. And then it finally wrapped up with this, and you have to listen to this little, this is a shortened version of the report, but you'll see the humor when this wraps. Anything from armored vehicles to common safety pins have been transported through Pakistan without any transit fee.

2:09:01 During negotiations, the Pakistani side wanted $5,000 for every container, but that demand was dropped in the end. The government in Islamabad hailed the agreement to open the border crossing as a major breakthrough. The opposition plans to hold nationwide protests. Even though the Pakistanis would have wanted an apology from the US president, it was the US Secretary of State who called the Pakistani foreign minister to say sorry. And now it seems that was enough. For the Pakistanis to reopen those crucial supply lines. First of all, if you ever die, this guy is my new co-host. Isn't he great? This guy rocks. It's very hard to talk with that little bit of listening and voice.

2:09:48 So yeah this was it well go ahead give me your I don't know what happened behind the scenes obviously it's not being reported because no one tells us the real reality but you know they we want up an apology for this it was the killing that the NATO choppers did on a bunch of Pakistan it was a drone man wasn't it a drone no no it was a real it was a gunship okay and so they kill a bunch of guys. Yeah, like 24. Oops. And they demanded an apology from Obama. And so finally, Hillary, I don't know what she did behind the scenes, but she said she's sorry. And that was good enough. And then things come back. It's just like dumbest story ever. Well, this is what's interesting about the story. She didn't actually say she's sorry. She didn't say she was sorry. And there was a huge conversation in the State Department press briefing about it. How it cannot, I don't understand.

CHAPTER 42 / 50 Discussion

State Department Parsing of the Pakistan Apology

During a press briefing, State Department spokesperson Victoria Nuland refused to characterize Hillary Clinton's statement to Pakistan as a formal apology. Nuland argued the statement "speaks for itself" and emphasized that mistakes were made on both sides. The hosts suggest the real motivation for the diplomatic resolution was the finalization of the TAPI pipeline deal involving Pakistan, India, and China.

victoria nuland· state department· pakistan· apology· tappy pipeline· transit fees

2:10:40 They're in the press briefing. Victoria Newland, married to one of the guys who wrote the project for a new American century, you know, the guys who like, you know, wrote the whole script that coincidentally came true with the World Trade Center 9-11. It's just a little side note. She said the evidence is there. She did not say, I'm sorry. And this doesn't make it onto the news. No one makes it onto the news is Hillary Clinton says I'm sorry, everything all good. Not true. Can you tell us what led the secretary to decide to use that word we are sorry for the losses? Well, as Matt predicted, I'm going to say that the statement speaks for itself and I'm not going to parse the words that were used. Yes. There you go. I wouldn't need money for that.

2:11:31 But, you know, as the statement makes clear, there were mistakes made on both sides that led to the tragic loss of life and we are both sorry for those. We are both sorry though, on the next page, the way it's printed out here, that sounds like we're sorry for what the terrorists did to us, right? Does that sound balanced out to you? Again, without parsing this statement, I think the intent here is that we are both sorry for the losses suffered by both our countries in this fight against terrorists. Please. Is it fair to consider this an apology?

2:12:17 Again, the statement speaks for itself. The words are all there and I'm not going to improve on it here. So the lesson learned in this case is to come out up front right away and apologize clearly without any sort of fogginess. Said, that sounds like an editorial comment. I think the statement speaks for itself and as you know, we've been working on this Glock issue for some time. Why did it take so long for this apology to come forward? Again, there were a lot of issues that needed to be worked through. You saw us do that at the technical level. You've seen us do it at the political level. And that's brought us to where we are here. I guess the question really is why did it take so long to come out and say sorry? I mean, this isn't an Elton John song here. Sorry isn't the hardest word to say. It's pretty easy.

2:13:04 to say, why, you know, it's not a question about what, about parsing the statement. Why did it, why did it take so long? Well, as we've been clear about for quite these many weeks, there were a number of issues that needed to be worked through that allowed us to get us to where we are. Okay. Translation? She did not say we're sorry. She said, we are both sorry for what the terrorists have done, which is very different from what the media is telling you. Secondly, the fees remain in place. We still have to pay the transit fees. That's all over this. I didn't clip anything, but it's all over the press release on this.

CHAPTER 43 / 50 Discussion

Cyprus Bailout and Yasser Arafat Poisoning Allegations

Cyprus is reportedly seeking a bailout from Russia rather than the EU or IMF, potentially securing a better deal for its struggling economy. In other news, a Swiss institute found traces of polonium on the belongings of the late Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat, leading to calls for his body to be exhumed. The hosts discuss the geopolitical implications of these stories and the suspicious timing of the Arafat allegations.

cyprus· russia· imf· yasser arafat· polonium· suha arafat

2:13:42 And what this means is that the pipeline deal is finally done. We've agreed to the pipeline The tappy pipeline which will eventually go through Pakistan into India and from India It'll continue on to China. So the deal is done That's what this is all about and she did not say well, sorry for killing your guys like oh, we're really sorry for what happened on both sides total twisting of the actual facts. And not report. By the way, when she says I don't want to parse it, she continues to parse it. That's what I thought was weird. That's what's interesting. Hey, breaking news! Ha ha! Cyprus, which is broke,

2:14:25 They were looking for a bailout from the EU and the IMF. Right. Headline news right now. Cyprus says the Russians are offering us a better deal. It can't get any funnier. So Russian pipeline with the Israelis up through Cyprus into Greece into Europe. Another piece, another move on the chessboard, ladies and gentlemen. So what will the retaliation be from Turkey and the Saudis? Something I think we should blow something up. Well something's gonna happen you can count on it. This is phenomenal I love these these chess pieces are great to watch and then I think some of where somehow related to this is this Arafat story Oh the poisoning the polonium story. Yeah, play this clip from from van cat Now you've confused me

2:15:20 It says Arafat still dead. I was looking for Van Kat. Moving on now to other world news. Yasser Arafat may have been poisoned. Traces of polonium were found on toothbrush and clothes of the late Palestinian president according to a Swiss Institute. His widow, Suha Arafat, has called for his body to be exhumed for further tests. Now, Arafat died at a hospital in Paris six years ago after a sudden illness which baffled doctors. Many Palestinians have long suspected he was murdered. Oh, I know. The old toothbrush thing? I know what happened.

2:15:57 He didn't tip the hotel maid. They don't have access to polonium of all things. So how does this tie in? How do you feel that ties in? I wonder myself. This whole story is weird. For one thing, it's showing up right now. It's an obvious spy story because polonium is one of those things that some, you know, the Bulgarians would use or something. I think there's a connection between what's going on and this thing coming to the fore. Hmm. I think that the tracks have been covered up by now to such an extreme that no one's gonna figure it out But I think there's something something important. Hmm. Hmm. Yeah, I don't know is this guy was as corrupt as it gets I mean the story definitely came out of left field. I hadn't quite parsed how it was gonna work yet So I really I don't know. I really don't know. Well, we'll look into it I'm also one of the things I'm listening to besides these, you know, I'm listening to Van Cat and all these different I

CHAPTER 44 / 50 Discussion

Korean News Analysis and Russian Opposition Music

The hosts critique the quality of international news reporting, specifically highlighting a South Korean segment about Russian musicians supporting the opposition to Vladimir Putin. The Korean report referred to a "White Album" of protest songs but failed to acknowledge the famous Beatles album of the same name. This is used as an example of how foreign news outlets can lack cultural context in their reporting.

south korea· russia· vladimir putin· white album· beatles· propaganda

2:16:51 Foreign news things where I'm getting weird stories that you just don't hear but the Korean news I'm starting to listen to which is really off the wall because they're their context is generally wrong. So when they do analysis of something, like they try to explain something, they usually the explanation is, you know, like, well play this one Korean news clip. Over 350 Russian musicians have donated songs to the so-called White Album, declaring their support for the opposition against Russian President Vladimir Putin. The title White Album comes from the color used by opposition supporters during street protests over the past six months. Musicians from all genres have submitted their songs.

2:17:35 Wait a minute. It completely overlooks the White Album reel, Genesis, right? The Beatles. Yeah, isn't, well I'm just googling this, tell me that the White Album isn't coming to iTunes or something like that. Oh, well, Korean news is not that connected to our public relations machines. When you watch it enough, you go, these people are just completely, I mean they're isolated. Yeah, okay. Anyway, the one I don't think that then that album or the real Beatles white album might be I think it's already on I thought it could be a PR story, but no it isn't I don't think so And then there's another news story, which I didn't know about The did you know about the Airbus story right? That they're saying it was pilot error. No no no I'm talking about what they're up to play this oh yeah, no I do they're they're They're coming in yeah They're coming over

CHAPTER 45 / 50 Discussion

Airbus Factory in Alabama and Pilot Error Reports

European aircraft manufacturer Airbus announced plans to build its first U.S. factory in Mobile, Alabama, a move seen as a challenge to Boeing. Simultaneously, a report on the 2009 Air France crash blamed pilot error rather than mechanical failure, which the hosts suggest may be a quid pro quo to protect the company's reputation. A technical discussion follows regarding the operating systems used in modern fly-by-wire aircraft.

airbus· boeing· alabama· air france· pilot error· windows nt

2:18:30 The giant European plane maker Airbus has announced it's setting up its first factory in the United States, home of its greatest rival Boeing. Work on the half a billion euro plant in Alabama is scheduled to start next year with the production lines rolling by 2015. And while other companies, even in America, in aerospace business are laying off We hired 4,000 people last year and we'll do the same again this year. We go where the talent is. The goal is to produce up to 50 A320s a year in the United States, the heart of the world's biggest market for that kind of medium-range aircraft. Well, this is an obvious quid pro quo. This makes so much sense. So we have the report today.

2:19:18 This was nothing wrong with the aircraft. This is the Air France flight that crashed near Brazil. Nothing wrong with the aircraft. This was pilot error. And so here's how it works. Listen, dudes, listen. I'll tell you what. If you tell everyone that our plane doesn't suck ass, we'll build a factory in Alabama. Well, what's interesting to me about the story is the fact that the U.S. government in essence has screwed over Boeing. Well, yeah, Boeing wanted to read wanted to build some of its jet manufacturing plants in the south in the Department of Labor told them they would be in violation of some labor laws because they have a unionized system up in Seattle and And then Boeing, you know had nothing but a struggle and there and meanwhile did they were Airbus walks? You know what waltzes into Alabama and drops in a plant. I think there's more I think there's something screwy going on. Well, there's always

2:20:22 There's always so much money involved in this. In aviation. Do they make, they must make drones. Let's see. They make drones, they probably do. Why not? Let's see. Do they make drones? Let me see. Let's see. Most of the drone companies seem to be independent little companies owned by these big guys and it's hard to figure out who is really making the drones. Let me see if there's anything. They must be making a drone. I don't see anything offhand. Something to look into. But I'm, as an airman, I reject the human element. First of all, it just makes no sense. It's like, well, the pitot tubes weren't working and therefore they made all the wrong decisions. It's like,

2:21:16 The number one thing you, well not number one, one of the things you learn even on a Cessna is you have your pitot tube heating which in the smaller aircraft you turn on manually so as not to burn out the elements by having them on all the time. But the minute you go through clouds you turn on your pitot tube. So if you're flying at altitude and they were at altitude, Typically, if the pitot tube freezes over, there's no air pressure coming into the tube and you will get a, you know, it'll basically, the airspeed indicator will tell you you're flying very, very slowly. And if that is the case, all the things that happen that they say happened on board of this unfortunate flight make no sense. That he was pulling the nose up. I mean, the whole thing is, I got to talk to some air guys about it, but it sounds like a huge cover up. It really doesn't sound right at all.

2:22:10 Well, Airbus is notorious for this. If you remember the old Paris Air Show where the one plane flew into the trees because it wouldn't take off and they blamed the pilot who said he was doing everything right but the computer decided that because they were doing demonstrations that the computer was confused and drove the plane into the woods and the guy lost his job. Yeah, these are fly-by-wires so you don't have a direct hydraulic connection To the to the control surfaces and the computer is interpreting you the pilot yeah And the computers interpreting the joystick and it all runs on Windows NT by the way no joke Yeah, yeah, it runs on Windows NT John the airbus yeah, I'm buying this okay, I

2:23:01 You gotta give me some documentation that... Of course, I don't know anything about aviation, so don't buy it. But that doesn't mean you know about the software that runs the Airbus, just because you can fly a plane. Oh yeah, no. That doesn't make sense. I do no research. I want to hear this, the Windows NT. I mean, I know a couple Navy ships tried using Windows NT to operate and they gave up on it. Okay, let's see. What OS does Airbus run on? Airbus 380 runs Windows. Yeah, it says it right there. What? Windows? First hit. First hit. That doesn't mean it's not running Windows as the entertainment software. I'm telling you, it runs Windows NT. I'm telling you. This is why Windows NT had the POSIX system put in because they couldn't get any government or aviation contracts without it being a POSIX kernel.

CHAPTER 46 / 50 Discussion

Olympic Security Hype and New BBC Director General

Media reports have suggested a potential Al-Qaeda threat to the London Olympics, though U.S. and UK officials state there is no "specific, credible" information. Meanwhile, George Entwistle has been named the new Director General of the BBC. Entwistle's background in military-themed programming and his history with the network lead the hosts to characterize him as a potential shill for intelligence services.

olympics· london· al-qaeda· mi5· bbc· george entwistle

2:23:57 This is a long history of stuff. I'll get you some documentation. I need documentation. And meanwhile, we had a big scare, man. I mean, like, you know, all the newspapers in the UK were saying, hey, it looks like Al Qaeda is going to take down an airplane over the Olympics. I'm sure you heard about this. That's why they got the missile system up. And CNN, man, I love it. They're like, bring in the headline and then bring it right back down to debunking it. It was a beautiful piece. Starting point, Al Qaeda operatives may be plotting to take down a US plane in the days leading up to the Summer Olympic Games in London. This is according to the Times of London.

2:24:37 al-qaeda's yemen-based hair cell is believed to be behind by the planning of this attack cnc intelligence correspondent susan kelly is of course on the security watch joins the life in washington as his own what are your at sources telling about this program really glad we're talking about this because there's a lot of hype and a lot of concern about this when these british papers came out with this reporting over the weekend and in a cnn has gone back and done the due diligence and spoke with both officials in the u k and the u s who are all saying there is absolutely no specific credible threat about bringing down a US-bound airliner anytime around the Olympics. Now, that being said... Like, ixnay, ixnay on the Al-Qaeda-ay-owning day of Etjay, okay? There's no Etthray. Keep in mind that the president did meet with his national security team last week

2:25:22 And they did talk about efforts to prepare for keeping the 4th of July festivities secure. Of course, working with their British counterparts on the Olympics. But again, no specific threat. So it sounds like there may be a little bit more hype here than it felt. One thing to tell you though is the Department of Homeland Security has come out and said that their security posture, and I'm quoting from them here, includes a number of measures both seen and unseen. Unseen secret measures. These are the best kind the ones that you see unseen and we will continue to respond appropriately To protect the American people and what they're really asking is for people to be vigilant and pay attention Pay attention

2:26:02 However, just recently came out and publicly said Al-Qaeda does remain a very serious threat. They're still plotting. They're still trying to find ways to attack. But again, according to U.S. government officials and officials in the U.K., there's no specific threat tied to the Olympics right now. You better just stay away from all the events. Stay away from all the events. So she talked about MI5. So MI5, MI6 is kind of the UK, Gitmo Nation East equivalent of FBI, CIA. So we have a new boss at the BBC, a new Director General. It's one of these intelligence agencies, I bet. Yeah, this is George N. Twissell, and he has an interesting record. In 2001, he took over as editor of BBC Newsnight less than 24 hours before the 9-11 attack.

2:26:56 Kind of interesting. Was that the same BBC that said WTC7 had collapsed 20 minutes before it did? You don't think that that's just a coincidence, probably? In 1993, he joined On The Record as a producer where he won the nickname General Sir George Entwistle because of a track record of accurate items that he could bring about the military's history and he had an obsession with tanks and guns and stuff. I like this stuff stuff. This is a you know, and this is how it works. You get the new boss and he is a shill for the intelligence services and just like our Syrian friend who defected were obviously headed towards a huge amount of propaganda in Gitmo Nation East. This guy is he's a he's a player.

CHAPTER 47 / 50 Discussion

Twitter Transparency Report and Government Requests

Twitter released its first transparency report, detailing government requests for user data and content removal. The report shows that the U.S. government makes the most requests, while many "Arab Spring" countries are notably absent from the list. The hosts question the narrative of social media's role in those revolutions given the lack of documented government interference in this report.

twitter· transparency report· dmca· arab spring· government requests

2:27:50 He's a real player. He's a goofy looking guy. He wears jumpers. He wears like little sweaters that you wear over your shirt. Twitter came out with their transparency report and what that means is they have compiled a list of government requests received for user information, government requests received to withhold content, and DMCA takedown notices received from copyright holders. And I'm looking at this list and I can't believe that there's not a single Arab Spring country on the list. Yeah. Seriously, not a single one is on the list. So these countries, again, no one asked for anything. No one's doing any. I mean, you think at least that Randy Corbin, what's his name?

2:28:45 Yeah, Carvin and Andy Carvin your buddy. Yeah, I guess I guess his word is good enough, right? You don't need to check and see if anyone's for real on that thing just just phenomenally Awesome really good of course no one's looking at that story or it's not and then I have the final I think we can actually play the gate the jingle for this To the gate to the gate to the climate gate Ah, yes, I was watching PBS as a part of my healthy news diet because you know, that's public television John that's That is supposed to be Fair balanced unbiased all of this stuff, right? Would you agree? Oh, they're absolutely so Kevin Trenberth was on the show and

CHAPTER 48 / 50 Discussion

PBS Climate Change Coverage and Extreme Weather

A segment on PBS featured climate scientist Kevin Trenberth discussing the link between extreme heat waves and man-made global warming. Trenberth argued that the increasing ratio of high-temperature records to low-temperature records is a clear indication of climate change. The hosts critique the segment, noting that the scientific community previously insisted that "weather is not climate" when faced with record cold temperatures.

pbs· kevin trenberth· climate change· global warming· wildfires· weather

2:29:43 and he is a climate scientist at the US National Center for Atmospheric Research. And he was discussing the correlation between extreme weather and man-made global warming. Now we know from all the reports when it got really cold and it was snowing, we were told that weather is not climate, right? Right. That's what they went on and on about. Weather is not climate. Climate is something different. Right, okay. So I was more than prepared to hear that again on PBS, the extremely accurate, publicly funded... I mean, that got commercials, but that's just... pay no attention to that.

2:30:27 uh... and i was surprised to hear the following and so these areas where the really hot and dry conditions leading to wildfires has moving around it we certainly don't expect them to occur every year but we do expect more of them the odds are changing uh... for these to occur with climate change with the global warming from the human influences on climate human insulin i want to ask you about to a scientist what does this say is going on What a... right off the script, by the way. Where's the scientist? What's going on? Well, I think it's, you know, you look out the window and you see climate change in action. Oh!

2:31:11 Yeah, I saw climate change in action last night. For the 40th year in a row I go out to watch the fireworks in San Francisco but a big layer of fog rolls in and blocks all the fireworks and that I'm waiting for that to change because of global warming but no. I think I saw climate change drive by on a 10-speed bike. I saw it in action. Looked out the window like what's that honey? Oh, don't know why that's just climate change. This is the way it gets manifested. There's normal weather events, there's the normal seasons. If we have June temperatures in March, well, you know, we've experienced them before because we get them in June. If we have a very mild winter, actually people like that because the winter isn't as cold.

2:31:54 breaking records then now we're breaking records but we're in the in the peak of the heat season and now we're going outside of the realm of conditions previously experienced and so that's when the damage really becomes extreme and we get all of these wildfires houses have been burned tremendous damage to the environment and We never had a wildfire before. No, no. Never happens. No, only with man-made global warming does this happen. Because you can look out the window and you can see climate change right out there. Consequences to come with regard to things like bugs that have survived the relatively warm winter.

2:32:36 Ah, the bugs, John. Stay tuned for the swarm of bugs which will be blamed on man-made global warming. The locusts are coming! So these are all manifestations of climate change that we expect to see more of. I'm sorry, am I misunderstanding what he's saying? He's saying weather is man-made. I don't know what he's saying. The guy's an idiot. And I just was hearing a few minutes ago that the weather service reporting more than 2,000 record temperatures matched or broken just in the last week. Yes, well of course it's easy to break an individual record because the weather system just happens at that particular location.

2:33:25 With an unchanging climate, you expect that the number of highs and the number of low temperature records are about the same. And that was the case in the 1950s, 60s and 70s. And then by the 2000s, we were breaking high temperature records at a ratio of about 2 to 1 over cold temperature records. But this year we've been breaking high temperature records at a rate of about 10 to 1. And, you know, I mean, ironically, there are some still still some cool spots, mainly in the Pacific Northwest. And cold temperature records continue to be broken. So breaking records is not an indication of climate change, but breaking records at a rate of 10 to 1 versus the cold records. That's a clear indication of climate change. Hey, hey, hey.

CHAPTER 49 / 50 Discussion

Reverend Manning on Obama and Show Q&A

The hosts play a clip of Reverend Manning from Harlem, who delivers a fiery sermon characterizing President Obama as the "son of Satan." Manning argues his opposition is spiritual rather than political. The hosts also announce an upcoming Q&A episode (200.6) and encourage listeners to submit questions about the show's history and terminology.

reverend manning· barack obama· harlem· satan· q&a· christianity

2:34:13 The science is in! Science! Hey, I want to remind people to send us a note or a letter or a question for the show that we're working on which is show 200.6. We're taking, we're gonna do questions and answers for you know if you have some question about the show, how it got started or anything like that. We only got five questions. Oh, no. I got a lot. I got a lot of questions They're sending you got a question for this not you can't ask ourselves a question. What's my favorite black color? No, no, no, they're asking good questions. I got some really nice questions. You got some okay. Yeah, I got I got great questions. I got questions like

2:34:51 who is this clippity-clop you keep speaking of? Yeah, some newbies I guess don't get some of this stuff. Well, that's why we're gonna do the show. And on Sunday, by the way, I want to mention there's a long Reverend Manning clip that I had to... it was 20 minutes and I have to cut it down to like six or seven minutes where he goes on a crazy rant. But he starts off really sedate and then he gets wild at the end and it's actually going to be quite funny. Listen, do I do have a teaser? You can see where it's headed from my little intro here. What am I playing? You're terrible today. Yeah, I suck. You're always nailing these. Yeah, well, I suck. It's his Reverend Manning intro. Oh. You mean this clip?

2:35:36 I want everybody to try to understand I'm not a right winger, I'm not a left winger, I'm not a liberal, I'm not a conservative, I'm not a democrat, I'm not a republican, I'm a Christian. I'm not even black actually. And I have a role to play in Christianity as a preacher, as a pastor. of which I have been doing for 30 years and will continue to do. My parish, if you will, is located in the community known as Harlem, but I preach to the world God's unadulterated word. Now, I do not see the world politically, and so therefore please understand that. I only see things spiritually.

2:36:21 at present the reason why so much of my time and energy has been spent dealing with Obama is because Obama is the son of Satan. If he was just another politician, then I would probably be very casual at the most about him as I was with George Bush or with Bill Clinton. But when a preacher looks up and he sees that Satan has sent one of his sons Then I spend every week and moment of my day talking about the fact that Satan's son is here Yeah, and my age theory is nuts

2:37:27 I gotta start watching him again. I'm behind on my reverend man. This is the latest thing he did. I was catch us up. There's a lot of people who have this theory. Yeah, Satan. Yeah, there's a lot of people that have the same thing with Bush. Well, I think you'll find it highly educational or entertaining. It'll be for Sunday show. All right, so we would really like you to consider us In your media diet, which is a should be a healthy one and we provide value for value We're doing all kinds of work as you can tell I think we've done more look news happens right news is everywhere It used to be that at least people would report some of the news and then you get crappy analysis So we started off this program by bringing you some different and I think better analysis But now we actually have to go and find out the news because the news is not even being reported not and it is

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Final Sign-off and Value for Value Appeal

The episode concludes with a final appeal for listener support through the "value for value" model. The hosts remind the audience of the upcoming tour and the need for continued funding to provide independent news analysis. They sign off from Austin and Silicon Valley, wishing Mickey a happy birthday and reminding listeners to "shut up, slave."

value for value· donations· mickey· silicon valley· austin· podcast

2:38:29 I'm sorry, except if Taco Bell has a new healthy gourmet meal. That is the news that is being served to you. And we ask you for a value for value donation at... Devorak.org slash N-A. Right? You nailed it. Alright. People are already sending me stuff I'm quite familiar with, but I'm forwarding it on to you, John. You definitely want to take a look at the documentary House of Numbers. I forwarded the email to you, so you can take a look.

2:39:07 And I'm happy to send you some Amazon books now the Dvorak household is on Kindle. I'm reliably informed Oh, yeah, all right. Thanks everybody in the chat room no agenda stream calm no agenda chat net Dvorak org slash na we will be back again on Sunday Miss Mickey's birthday. Oh, yes, I should point that out. That's Mickey mi CKY no e And coming to you here from the capital of the drone star states, Camp Mofo, where I am obviously still suffering from severe IED in the morning. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're still celebrating America's independence, I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll be back on Sunday, right here on No Agenda. Shut up, slave! Dvorak.org slash N-A-V-E.