Episode 369 · Thursday, 29 December 2011

Phobos Grunts

A failed Russian satellite falls toward the Middle East while the American media apparatus turns its sights on Ron Paul and the Iowa caucuses.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 369

About this episode

The Russian Phobos-Grunt satellite is hurtling toward a crash landing in Afghanistan, sparking intense speculation about US Strategic Command's ability to predict the re-entry with suspicious precision. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak analyze whether the failed spacecraft serves as a cover for a targeted EMP strike or a covert operation near the Iranian border. The situation coincides with Hugo Chavez claiming the United States has developed a secret machine to induce cancer in Latin American leaders following a string of regional diagnoses.

Media narratives are shifting as the Iowa caucuses approach, with the Wall Street Journal and Fox News launching coordinated attacks against Ron Paul by labeling his supporters as neo-Nazis. While Al Sharpton accuses Paul of anti-Semitism on Morning Joe, the Republican establishment is simultaneously elevating Rick Santorum to fragment the vote. Meanwhile, House Resolution 3765 has quietly implemented a permanent fee increase on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac mortgages, effectively creating a hidden tax on homeowners to fund a temporary payroll tax holiday. In the private sector, the New York Times is under fire for granting CEO Janet Robinson a $15 million exit package while freezing employee pensions, and Nike is accused of orchestrating retail riots for the Air Jordan Concord 11 release to manufacture artificial demand.

This year-end wrap-up features a live carrot crunch test from Nash's Produce in Port Angeles and a review of the CIA's gift shop merchandise, which is ironically manufactured in China. The episode concludes with an interview featuring Sir Jordan of Invercargill, who provides a dispatch on New Zealand's vegan agenda and local HAARP research facilities. Adam Curry also reviews a listener-submitted short film shot entirely on an iPhone 4S that satirizes life under government surveillance.


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CHAPTER 01 / 48 Discussion

No Agenda Episode 369 Introduction and Christmas Cliptacular Recap

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 369 from Austin, Texas, and Northern Silicon Valley on December 29, 2011. They reflect on the previous "Christmas Cliptacular" episode, noting listener feedback regarding its length and density. The hosts establish the show's numbering convention, designating the clip show as episode 368.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· episode 369· christmas cliptacular· austin texas

00:00 So these are the experts running our country? Adam Curry, John C. DeVore. It's Thursday, December 29th, 2011. Time to get Monation Media assassination episode 369-er. This is no agenda. Only 357 days left until the end of the world and counting here at Camp MoFo in Austin, Texas, capital of the lone star state in the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where is this thing working? I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Quack Pot and Boss Kills! In the morning! What do you mean is this thing working? Is it? Is what thing working? Mike.

00:39 Yeah, I think you're... I've been away from it for so long. I gotta tell you, I was jonesing on Sunday, man. It was, uh... We had our Christmas Cliptacular. Good job, by the way. That was a little tedious. Well it was funny because I actually got tired listening to it. I'm like, oh. I had a couple, I had a note from a guy who said, look I loved it, I listened to it twice. Yeah and then I went into a coma. And then he says to me, but I don't think anyone who's not really a huge fan of the show could take more than an hour of it. No, I have yet personally to listen to the whole thing in one sitting. I've listened to the whole thing over and over again in chunks, but because I put it together in about four parts. But I've never listened to the whole thing from beginning to end because I can't. It's a classic and we're actually deeming it to episode 368, so this is 369 or Les Ménages à 3, 4, 5. Ménages à 3, 69 I mean.

CHAPTER 02 / 48 Discussion

Canadian Bilingualism and Quebec Cultural Tensions

A discussion regarding Canadian listeners in Saskatoon leads to a critique of national bilingualism requirements intended to accommodate Quebec. An anecdote is shared about a Québécois individual experiencing cultural rejection while visiting France. The hosts transition into greeting their live chat room audience, referred to as "human resources."

canada· saskatoon· quebec· bilingualism· france

01:41 For our Canadian listeners. Yeah, for all of the people in Saskatoon. Do they speak French in Saskatoon? No, they don't. They speak it only in Quebec. Quebec? Only in Quebec? Well, the whole country is required to have everything bilingual to accommodate the Québécois who seem to demand it. Or otherwise, they threaten to leave Canada, although the joke of it is that one of the few areas outposts of France that the French kind of disavow recognize yeah we're and we have nothing to do with it I had a friend of mine who's a Quebec qua and she told me that she went to France and spoke a little that flat French at the Canadian speak and they proved that a Frenchman spit in her face really yeah I've got my next story like remark this is that's not this disgusting anyway in the morning and Merry Christmas to you John

02:41 Yeah, Merry Christmas to you and to all the listeners and all the boots on the ground and to all the ships at sea and feet in the air. I want to say in the morning to you all too. Yes, of course, in the morning to our human resources, just like we were talking earlier, just like a bar, everyone shows up in the chat room. Like, so we have like six, 700 now. It's always nice to see, of course, our human resources. Can be found at no agenda stream calm no agenda chat.net in the morning to everybody charges up the way your government loves you. So I did miss doing the show. I have to say, you know, we had our Christmas presents and by the way, best Christmas gift ever. What was yours?

CHAPTER 03 / 48 Discussion

CIA Gift Shop Piggy Bank and Made in China Merchandise

One of the hosts describes receiving a piggy bank featuring the CIA logo, purchased from the agency's physical gift shop in Virginia. They examine the CIA gift store website, noting the irony of intelligence agency merchandise being manufactured in China. The segment highlights various items available for purchase, including spy plane pens and commemorative coins.

cia· gift shop· piggy bank· made in china· virginia

03:21 I didn't get my best Christmas gift ever of this Christmas. I just got some books and some miscellaneous things I didn't get anything special I I kept asking me for a list and I refused to give one because I There's not that much stuff that I need because you know you're paying for it at the end anyway. Well, there's that I received in the mail a piggy bank emboldened with the CIA logo from the CIA gift shop and Oh, from one of our nights in the Virginia area. This thing is outrageous. And there was a 20 inside along with the microphone. And you smell good CIA stuff. I have to beg and then somebody finally, well, you know, okay, well, here's one for you. It was, it's so, it's like, you look at this thing, it's like,

04:13 Wow, that's just weird. It's a piggy bank with a CIA logo. Yeah, if you go to... What else do they sell in this shop? We've got to go visit this shop with a camera. And it's all made in China. Yeah, exactly. That's the best part of it. So I tweeted it. Yeah, heaven forbid we make a piece of pottery in the United States. I was like, wow, that is so awesome. It's just, it's like, it's so uncomfortably cool and disgusting at the same time. It's like, oh, then that was a cool gift. I like that a lot. The CIA went and put their, I don't think their store is online, but I think if it ever was, maybe it is, I think it is online, but they don't have that on there. I don't think the CIA gift store, do you think they have a website? Yeah, I remember seeing it because I was looking at the coins after you got that one with Panetta's name on it. CIA gift shop. Hold on a second here. CIA gift store.com. Let's see. I think they should promote this. They could make, you know, help, help,

05:10 Cover the budget for their secretary pool pool. Maybe with this is great CIA gift store.com Really? Why buy CIA gear because everyone wants it. Yeah, there's there's my coin Interesting, but I don't see the office things. Where would they have the piggy bank Wow, they've got an o4 spy plane pen. Oh These guys are crazy. Web exclusives, let me say. I think this is probably a store exclusive. You can't just get that... What, the piggy bank? Yeah. I just think they're lazy with the website. It's possible. They put some stuff up there and then they walk away from it and just collect the money.

CHAPTER 04 / 48 Discussion

No Agenda Merchandise and the "Don't Panic" Federal Reserve Shirt

The hosts review recent No Agenda merchandise, including a green Federal Reserve shirt with the slogan "Don't Worry, Don't Panic, We'll Print More." Other items mentioned include "Your Government Protecting and Serving the Shit Out of You" shirts and branded mugs. An anecdote is shared about a house guest stealing a mug, which the hosts interpret as a sign of product quality.

no agenda nation· merchandise· federal reserve· mugs· apparel

05:58 They're not actively running the store like our like no agendization. Oh man, you know so I received a nice little you got your care package. I did it was awesome And you know there's a there's like all there are three shirts in there So there's the the green Federal Reserve shirt that says don't worry don't panic. We'll make more will print more Yeah, that's a good one. Eric has his kids wearing that shirt. Oh yeah, no Christina immediately stole that one then we have the Your government protecting and serving the shit out of you. Yeah, classic. They're all classic. Some guy beating them. It's the street sign. And then the one with the British crown which is freak out and break stuff. This is great and it's really good stuff. Yeah, and the mugs are... I want to recommend people buying a set of the No Agenda mugs for their kitchen pantry.

06:51 Also, we had a house guest, Radu, a friend of ours from California who had nowhere to go. And he was like, hey, by the way, I took one of those mugs. Well, all right. It's like people will steal them. That's how good they are. Then you know you got a good product when people will steal it. Speaking of stealing, Johnny boy. So right after we did our show, which was, what was that? Was that the day before Christmas? No. Two days before Christmas? I don't remember. Last Thursday. Yeah, so we were yeah exactly a couple days before Christmas You know we we talked about the the whole reality show going on in On the hill about passing the payroll tax holiday and never went home and back and forth and we knew that this was gonna get resolved before you know before the deadline but they literally did it like you know the next morning I was like, oh

CHAPTER 05 / 48 Discussion

House Resolution 3765 and Payroll Tax Holiday Analysis

Adam Curry analyzes House Resolution 3765, the two-month extension of the payroll tax holiday through February 29, 2012. He argues the bill effectively creates a hidden tax increase for those earning over $110,000 by capping the 2% Social Security tax break at the first $18,350 of income. The discussion disputes media claims regarding the number of Americans who will actually benefit from the legislation.

house resolution 3765· payroll tax holiday· social security tax· income limits· congress

07:47 And of course, you know, it's just like after all this analysis, all this live footage, and it was just like, hey, they passed it. Yay. All right. And then nothing. Just like, oh, don't worry about it. You'll get your 40 bucks. So I went and took a look at what actually got passed because you know they do have to kind of report this stuff and it was actually took two full days for this bill to be published because of course everyone's on vacation you know the the register office and it's like screw it we'll do it after Christmas so I'm like hitting refresh for 48 hours It is House Resolution 3765. Once again, an interesting document. Because I'm like, how did they do this? How come all of a sudden they agreed? Aren't you curious to know what they agreed to?

08:35 I don't think anybody is interested except the two of us and maybe a few of our listeners. Well, that's the only person I'm doing the show for. I'm doing it for you. Are you interested, John? Would you like to know? Well, I'm sure there's a gem in there. You wouldn't have brought it up so early. Yeah, there's some interesting stuff. So I have it here in front of me. It's in the show notes at 369er.nashownotes.com. So it is only a two month extension up until February 29th. Of course, we have a leap year, 2012, and it specifically states That there is the the payroll tax holiday. Now the way they word this is interesting. Limitation on self-employment income. So regardless of whether you are a slave at a company or whether you're self-employed, you're going to be receiving this tax break.

09:28 because it is actually the Social Security tax that is being holidayed or at least this 2% break. And the way they've done it is they say, okay, it's over the first $18,350, which if you do the math, results in an annual salary of $110,000 a year. And I'm like, okay, so anything over that, I guess, you're not, you know, you don't get the break, right? That makes sense. Yeah. And so if you're self-employed, you also get this deal. However, note that it's specifically $18,350 in these two months. So if you're self-employed and you get a big contract, you'll want to spread that out somehow or bill later. In particular,

10:27 Because a little bit further up it says Recapture of excess benefit and like hmm. What is this in general? There is hereby imposed on the income of every individual a tax equal to 2% of the sum wages and that has a Specification of what that is to the extent the amount of some exceeds eighteen thousand three hundred and fifty dollars in other words They're giving a 2% tax break to everyone who makes under $100,000. If you make over $100,000, they're increasing the taxes with 2%.

11:08 That doesn't make any sense because Obama promised. So they did it, they did the tax on the rich, rich in this case being $110,000 a year. So you are actually, if you make over $110,000 a year, which according to CNN, the median income in America, according to CNN is $97,000, which I find hard to believe. But does that sound right to you? Ninety seven thousand dollars? Actually, in today's market, it does. That's the more you're not making anything or they're probably averaging around 100. So I don't understand how they come up with one hundred and seventy million people will benefit from this tax break because that's not true. One hundred and seventy million people, that's got to be the amount of working people in America. The rest have got to be too young or too old or dead.

CHAPTER 06 / 48 Discussion

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac Fee Increases

The payroll tax legislation is revealed to include a permanent fee increase of 20 basis points on mortgages guaranteed by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. The hosts characterize this as a hidden tax on homeowners that lacks a sunset provision. They compare these financial maneuvers to the excessive fees found in car rental agreements.

fannie mae· freddie mac· mortgage fees· hidden taxes· basis points

11:54 Right. I think the whole thing is bogative. It's totally bogative. So it's just shifting the money. Yeah, it's just shifting it from the Congress is right behind it. I mean, this whole thing, and obviously this is a tax increase, a hidden tax increase. I was listening to one of the right wing talkers the other day and the guy would some guy came on some caller. Who owns a business, he says all he knows is that for, he says yeah they can, they're gonna cut the payroll, but he says I don't know if anyone's noticed this, but take a look at what your withholding has been over the last year. It's been inching up. Oh yeah, it just keeps, well there's a couple more things. So remember I mentioned the Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac fee increase, so that's in there.

12:42 20 basis points which is not a lot isn't a hundred basis points is 1% am I saying that correctly? That's a good question. I mean, I think that's what it is. So I think so. So it sounds like it's a point two percent fee over every single loan that is guaranteed by Fannie Mae Freddie Mac. Notice there's no two month provision in here. These fees will stay. This point is one one hundredth of a percentage. Right. So so these fees, which will hit anyone who has a mortgage backed by Fannie Mae Freddie Mac, which I think is about a trillion dollars, at least in mortgages, that's quite a lot.

13:19 or in mortgage-backed securities, they get hit with a fee which has no sunset provision. It doesn't go away. That fee just stays. Yeah, it's another form of a tax. If people actually start looking at the fees, like for example, I'm up in Washington so I rented a car. So it's gonna cost me like something like $40 a day to rent a car but with the fees you know airport tax, parking fee, missing car fee, maintenance fee, blah blah blah, it's $80 so instead of $40 it's like twice as much because of all these things which are all hidden taxes. But when you clicked on that banner it really said $19.95 a day didn't it?

CHAPTER 07 / 48 Discussion

Keystone XL Pipeline Presidential Decision Deadline

Provisions within the tax bill force President Barack Obama to make a public decision regarding the Keystone XL pipeline permit within 60 days of enactment. The legislation references Executive Order 13337 and mandates action through the Secretary of State. The hosts note that this specific requirement received minimal coverage on mainstream news outlets like CNN.

keystone xl pipeline· barack obama· executive order 13337· secretary of state· congress

14:02 Yeah, something like that. Yeah, and then you look at the bill and say, holy crap! And then the final thing, which was in all previous versions of the bill, is they are forcing the president's hand not later than 60 days after the date of enactment of this act, the president acting through the Secretary of State, Lucifer, shall grant a permit under Executive Order No. 13337, which I think stands for LEET. LEET. relating to issuance of permits for the Keystone XL pipeline. So they're basically forcing the president, and then of course they have exceptions, which means he can say he doesn't want to do it. So they're forcing him to make the decision within 60 days of the signing of the act. So the end of January, wait a minute, no, end of February, he'll be forced to come out and make a public decision about the XL, the Keystone XL pipeline.

CHAPTER 08 / 48 Discussion

Wall Street Journal Critique of Ron Paul and Neo-Nazi Labels

The hosts critique a Wall Street Journal editorial segment featuring Dorothy Rabinowitz, who labeled Ron Paul's supporters as "neo-Nazis" and "9/11 truthers." Rabinowitz argued that Paul is not a true libertarian and expressed concern over the "raging quality" of his disenfranchised followers. The hosts dismiss her commentary as elitist propaganda aimed at marginalizing a popular political movement.

ron paul· wall street journal· dorothy rabinowitz· neo-nazis· 9/11 truthers

14:58 So that's another little trick they put in there. Didn't hear any of that on CNN. No, they don't care. There's other news to cover. Yeah, gee, let me see. Ron Paul, racist, anti-Semite. Let me just check those off the list there. Racist, anti-Semite. Let me make sure I got that one off the list. Yeah. And a nutball and an old man and a codger. My favorite one coming up. Codger, codger. Did you see that interview? Codger. That interview with what's-her-name Robino it's remember the Robino is who wrote that hit piece in the Wall Street Journal on Ron Paul

15:37 I do remember her, but I didn't see the thing on TV. We discussed it, that he's crazy. Ron Paul's a nutball. And I don't think her Jewish heritage has anything to do with her remarks at all. That's impossible to even... No, she'd rather much have an anti-Israeli president such as Obama. That's just difficult. Well, listen, so they interviewed her on the Wall Street Journal. She's a member of the editorial board, so she does determine the direction of the paper. You just gotta listen to this because John, you and I, I mean, we think Ron Paul's a pretty good guy. We think he's got some good stuff going. Yeah, by the way, people have to see this woman to appreciate. Oh yeah. Talk about codgers. Well, we are apparently... How does she get this job? I mean, you look at her background, it's like... She's a Pulitzer Prize winner. Classic, you know... Douchebag. Yeah.

16:30 No, she is. She, uh, and she won a Peeler Surprise for like two. I think one was she was a backup or a reserve Pulitzer Prize winner. Yeah, whatever. But she's an old battle axe. It's a codger. Hey, don't be ageist now, all of a sudden. Okay, she's just a battle axe. There you go. But we, of course, are neo-Nazis. This is an important thing. Most people in our times know that there's a very strong strain of something wrong. I won't call it racism, but there's something really wrong. The numbers of people who have been attracted to Ron Paul unmistakably represent the breed of neo-nazis and... Unmistakably represent the breed of neo-nazis. Did you get that brown shirt they're selling at the Noah Jenner Nation store?

17:23 there's more of this by no means. One reason I kind of, I think it's possible that he didn't know that some of this was going on is because honestly most of it it's awful it doesn't sound particularly libertarian in a lot of places. It's not libertarian. It's not libertarian. This is not really a libertarian person. No. No really he is not but he is attracted under this very large umbrella the distrust and hatred of government, the need for small government. But the other thing is there's this mad quality. I don't mean insane. Wait, she doesn't mean insane. There's a raging quality of the disaffected. The disaffected and the disenfranchised. That would be us too. Out of 9-11 truthers who hate the government for reasons best known to their psychiatrists.

18:10 I can't afford a psychiatrist biatch and there is It's no mistaking that population. And then there are the very good and decent people I know, I've written about, who said they want to take the parts of Ron Paul that they like. You know, unfortunately, when you're the head of the nation, you don't get put in one dresser drawer to be pulled out for the good parts of you. Well, I think the part that people are responding to is that plan to slash federal spending. So it does seem that uh... you know assuming is given his numbers are pretty big i think that you know it can't be all i love this uh... this quality reporting numbers are pretty big now and i like it we had all the facts here nine eleven truth there's a baby there's obviously a pretty big or if you have a sense of the night can all be nine eleven truth that that

19:00 can't be that big that's impossible this guy's flawed but I want smaller government he's they're saying he's flawed they know he's flawed because of the foreign policy stuff that everybody knows about the foreign policy stuff everybody knows about this is a foreign policy stuff that everybody knows about stuff but this is a new this is a Pulitzer Prize winner by the way I'd give it back if they gave me one like I don't want your prize I want to be in this on the same panel this woman And there is something about a character of someone who really didn't own up to it, can't own up to it, gets angry at being asked about it. The presidency of the United States is the important job in this world. Can you imagine a figure like this?

19:42 Now we know, I think we can be certain that he is not going to be elected the president. Yeah, we can be certain because we're the Wall Street Journal. We know he's not. Why are you even talking about it, lady? You must be worried. Yeah. It's not by a long shot. Not by a long shot. But the point is, what does it say of people who are devoted to his cause, innocently devoted to his cause? Innocently. She's a propagandist. This is the way Noam Chomsky talks. It's not like devoted, you're not just devoted, you're innocently devoted. That means you're an idiot.

CHAPTER 09 / 48 Discussion

Fox News and the Ron Paul Newsletter Controversy

Media coverage of decades-old Ron Paul newsletters is analyzed, specifically focusing on commentary from Fox News. Pundits like Kirsten Powers are criticized for labeling the newsletters "heinous" and "racist" without having read them personally. The hosts argue the media is recycling these claims to damage Paul's momentum in the Iowa caucuses.

fox news· ron paul· newsletters· kirsten powers· racism claims

20:25 representing this entire spectrum of the most loathsome views. Do you still believe enough that you just need this one policy, this two policy, smaller government? I am afraid that life is not that simple. We're talking about, you know, kind of brain dead. Play my clip, Ron Paul newsletter. Here we have one of the shows on Fox again. They're so Republican, so we're helping them out. Yeah. And so they go on and they talk about Ron Paul's newsletter and one of the women who is one of the major commentators, she's black.

21:04 She says that she talks about the newsletters and then she makes the comment, although I've never seen them. Let's cut to the chase. Go to the dream matchup. Assume the polls are correct in Iowa. Ron Paul wins. He comes an impressive second in New Hampshire and he has a real headwind behind him. He gets the nomination. Ron Paul versus Obama. What a contest. controversy. Ron Paul would not make a great candidate. Liberals will run ads against him. I have not read the newsletters but from what I've heard you have anti-sematic remarks, racist remarks. He insults everyone except the white people. He's running against the guy who was in Jeremiah

21:49 rights church, who's supposedly the most anti-Israeli president. I actually think that, I mean, if you read the newsletter stuff it is really heinous, the stuff that's in there. But what makes it even more problematic, I think for somebody running for president, is what kind of person doesn't know what's in their newsletters for 10 years that there are videos of him hawking to people? You know what I mean? And so it sort of raises the question of if you can't even keep track of your little newsletter, how are you going to keep track of the country? Now, Kirsten, for me, it's good enough. So there are a couple of points to be made here. One, one woman doesn't even have a name is right. Able to look at you look at him. It's a lot of politically incorrect commentary that is hardly to the level of heinous.

22:33 I don't think either one of these people actually looked at these newsletters. No. I think they're politically incorrect and that's about where it ends. And then she makes a comment, he's there on videos hawking the newsletters. Have you ever seen such a video? No, they're referring to one video from 1999 where he's in his doctor's office and he is asked a question and he says, well yeah, I know I have the Ron Paul newsletter about gold and investing and how to survive the coming economic crash. that is not a hawk at all. Yeah, no, so we're basically listening to nothing but propaganda. Lies, lies, lies.

CHAPTER 10 / 48 Discussion

Fox News Visual Tactics and Government Spending Addiction

A brief tangent explores the visual staging on the Fox News program "The Five," suggesting the placement of the spinning logo near female commentators' legs is a psychological tactic. The discussion shifts to the $15.1 trillion national debt, with the hosts arguing that neither major party has the courage to address the government's addiction to overspending.

fox news· visual propaganda· national debt· government spending· buzzkill jr

23:12 The Ron Paul hatred club. So let's listen to one more I got Ron This is on the five where they have the dingbats all around the table with those legs We were watching her and I was commenting on her legs They moved her from the right hand side of the table to the left hand side of the table which were her legs are she must have a bruise Buzzkill jr. pointed out that's where the Fox logo is spinning And so your attention is drawn to her legs She usually and she has these huge spike heels I mean she's really got these great legs So you look over there and you're send you're done the spot the Fox logo is spinning around it's going into your brain Good on the buzzkill jr. Man. Yeah, he's gonna have to be a member of the consulting crew

24:00 crew. Oh, well, wait a minute. What kind of nepotism is this? Yeah, now it's a three way split all of a sudden. I know he doesn't get any money. The problem is and the reason that we're 15.1 trillion dollars in debt right now, and that's only going up is because of our government's chronic addiction or they're just their chronic overspending. I mean how long have we been overspending like this? Bush added to it, Obama's added to it. Who is actually going to have the guts to scale it back? You answer that question Charles. Who's got the guts to put a stake in that stucco? Ron Paul? You silly man, you made a funny... They all start sniggering at the Ron Paul. Ron Paul can do it. So mourning Joe

CHAPTER 11 / 48 Discussion

Al Sharpton and Anti-Semitism Allegations Against Ron Paul

The hosts discuss an appearance by Al Sharpton on "Morning Joe" where Ron Paul was accused of harboring a "strain of anti-Semitism." They argue these allegations stem solely from Paul's desire to cut all foreign aid, including the $235 billion reportedly sent to Israel. The hosts defend Paul, stating that his non-interventionist stance is being intentionally mischaracterized as bigotry.

al sharpton· joe scarborough· ron paul· anti-semitism· israel aid

24:52 Had Al Sharpton on. Oh no conflict here. Could you actually understand him is the question? He's the only black man in America that really hates Ron Paul I think. I'm just looking at the YouTubes which you need to talk about in a second. But Morning Joe dude, what's his name? Scarborough. He pulls out the anti-Semitism thing in a big way. And they have been for some time with their eyes rolled and I know because a lot of people who? That's my crowd as far as you know small government libertarians who will roll their eyes be concerned like Dorothy about foreign policy, but also Reverend Al Will go away from an event saying there is always a strain of anti-semitism I've never heard the racism part, but always a strain of anti-semitism I have been to some Ron Paul events

25:59 I have never felt a strain of anti-semitism there and how for him to say that I mean this is this is almost as bad as You know when people say all the Jews own the media Yeah, you just say it over and over again and somebody starts thinking that way when it's bullcrap The thing of the anti-semitism only stems from one simple thing he wants to cut off all for including Israel Along with everybody else he just which of course he wouldn't manage to do when he was president It's just one of those things that just can't be done, but that's what he would like to do is by the way somehow translates to anti-semitism Yeah, which by the way is two hundred and thirty five million dollars

CHAPTER 12 / 48 Discussion

Eric Dondero and the Role of Political Shills

The hosts identify Eric Dondero, a former Ron Paul staffer appearing on CNN, as a professional political shill. They highlight an interview where Dondero avoids admitting he is currently working for competing GOP campaigns while attacking Paul. The segment serves as an example of how mainstream media uses "insider" sources to push specific narratives.

eric dondero· cnn· ron paul· political shills· gop primary

26:39 according to the Aynet, Yinet newspaper. That's what we're giving Israel. 235 billion, I'm sorry, $235 billion. $235 billion. Yeah, it seems like a lot of money. That's like more than the tax break. We should balance our budget. Yeah, $235 billion. And then we had this new shill. This guy is very funny. A guy, Eric Dondero, which is not even his real name, it turns out. His name is like Rittatini or something. And he worked for Ron Paul in I don't know, one of his congressional runs I think. I don't think, maybe it was on the previous presidential bid, but he got fired and he wrote a blog post saying, well you know he's

27:19 He sucks, basically. He's anti-Israel, he's no good. And then he comes on CNN, and it was a good question that was asked, but his answer is hilarious because of course, you know, the guy is a shill. Do you have a role in any other campaign? And if so, does that candidate support what you're doing here? I work as a professional political petitioner. I do a lot of different campaigns all around the country. Are you working on behalf of any other GOP candidate? I petition a lot. I've been there for five months in California. Are you working on behalf of any other GOP candidate?

28:00 I at the moment I'm working at least two candidates trying to get them on the ballot as a petitioner but I'm not directly connected with any political campaign I'm a contract employee for petitioners. The answer is yes, A-Hole, the answer is yes. You're working for competitive campaigns. Yeah, why doesn't he say it? Because he's a shill. Yeah, he's a classic. But the thing that's interesting to me, and I'm not sure what the truth is, the internet is now filled with, and it's coming to my attention rapidly,

CHAPTER 13 / 48 Discussion

African American Support for Ron Paul and Drug War Reform

The discussion focuses on growing support for Ron Paul within the Black community due to his stance on ending the War on Drugs. The hosts cite statistics regarding the disproportionate incarceration of African Americans and compare the modern prison system to a form of state-sanctioned slavery. They argue that Paul's message resonates more than President Obama's lack of action on criminal justice reform.

ron paul· war on drugs· african americans· prison industrial complex· slavery

28:36 with black Americans who are just going nuts and saying that Ron Paul isn't racist, he's the only guy who's gonna get our families out of jail for smoking a doobie. Yeah, exactly. The black community I think is way behind Ron Paul. I think that is what the fear is. If there's any fear... From the real Obama bots. They're still on board right and there's a there's a video which well actually you sent me a video of an Awesome guy who's in this car? He's like better than than the than the Reverend the Mac Daddy Reverend this guy's is just awesome to listen to But there's another video me I played at the end of the show before we do Maynard's clip And it's just one after another and they're all saying like you know the corporate media You know they don't give a crap about you

29:23 You don't care. See, Ron Paul wants to end the war on drugs because, you know, and black people in America know that what I think the statistic is 14% of all drug related crimes are attributed to African Americans, but 65% is in jail. 65% yeah, I know it's ridiculous the number of black people that have gone through the system and then of course then they can't get work afterwards and they make some perpetual criminals the whole thing is a disaster to go back in continuing because it's a business to be in it's slavery on drugs it's slavery it is pure slavery because you go in you work for for nothing making stuff for IKEA

30:10 Whatever, you know, it's not just license plates. You it's slavery, right? We've discussed this Yeah, there's two or three companies that specialize in the and using the prison system as a slave to a slave force bigger than the one in China I might add which calls the Chinese to no end because you know, we're always accusing them of this and we're doing it which is a classic of course you accuse somebody else to doing something while you do it to draw attention away from yourself and And the black community, I'm surprised that, you know, they're not happy with Obama. He hasn't done anything about that. No. As far as he's concerned, he doesn't even know it exists. But if he were really to get the black and Latino vote, I mean, which I think he has a good chance of doing, even just because he sounds different than all the other douchebags and says contrarian things and two important ones, and the wars, including the war on drugs.

CHAPTER 14 / 48 Discussion

New York Times Financial Troubles and Executive Bonuses

The New York Times faces internal backlash after firing CEO Janet Robinson with a $15 million exit package while simultaneously freezing employee pensions. The hosts discuss a protest letter signed by staff members regarding the disparity in executive compensation. They also mention a marketing error where the paper sent out millions of cancellation notices and initially lied about being hacked.

new york times· janet robinson· pension freeze· executive compensation· layoffs

31:05 Yeah, no, he wants to end all the wars and there's a... I still think that Obama won the election because of his anti-war stance. It's gonna get us out of Iraq right away, it's gonna finish the job in Afghanistan right away, it's gonna close Gitmo immediately, you can take that to the bank. Nothing happened, he didn't do anything. You know, now we're saber rattling to try to start another war in Iran and there's still the Libya situation which is not well. And I have a question for you. Why don't we thank some of our producers for oh my mic. Let's thank some of our producers first because then I have a question about Syria and Libya and The New York Times in particular which you are an expert on of course. I have a copy here. I'm an expert.

31:50 So apparently the New York Times sent out something like 9 million cancellation notices But worse they said on their Twitter they said We got hacked that wasn't from us. That was spam. They lied about it first They lied about it, and then they went back and said oh no that was in error but you could actually get a deal because they were offering an additional 52 weeks for half price and a lot of people said yeah, I'll take that and And then they, and of course they had to honor it, but then they at a certain point, this is how screw it. We're not honoring that anymore. The New York Times is in trouble, John. They got, did you read about this big, uh, this, this letter that everyone signed?

32:30 Yeah. So, you know, all the reporters, they're like, hey, you're taking away our pensions, you're freezing everything. Right. And then meanwhile, they fired the CEO woman, I guess. Yeah. I can't remember. And they gave her not only a... Fifteen million dollars. Yeah. Fifteen million dollars and a big pension boost. You know, with golden handcuffs. And that's what caused the letter to come out. I said, what are you kidding me? Why are you firing somebody who's incompetent, ruining the thing? You're giving them all this money and you're killing our pensions? This is a classic example of what's wrong with the country. But with the New York Times, well, I want to get into it because there's something else that I noticed about the Times. But let's thank our producers first. Okay, I want to mention, this is our thanks for the last two shows, so they're going to be a little long. I want to warn people. I want to warn the affiliates that we'll be going overtime. We'll be going over our allotted slot on these, on the Spogs.

CHAPTER 15 / 48 Discussion

No Agenda Producer Donations and Knighting Ceremony

The hosts read a long list of donations from "Executive Producers" and "Associate Executive Producers." Highlights include a $1,100 donation from a listener in Virginia to establish the "Order of the Dish" and various "karma" requests for new jobs and family health. The segment reinforces the "value-for-value" model of the show, thanking donors from the US, Australia, Germany, and the UK.

donations· knighthood· order of the dish· karma· executive producers

33:23 So and so and we're gonna have a long segment here. We'll probably run the show a little longer to make it for it But really but let's start with that long in Ashton, Virginia Came in with $1,100 and it says as per my drunken email Essentially he's becoming a knight in challenging Adam to get a dish satellites dumb Or else, that's going to be the end of the donations. He wants to be a knight in the order of the dish. Yeah, I think let's just find... We're going to start working on these orders. Okay, so my marching orders here are to use this money to get a dish and hook it up to the clip machine, he says.

34:05 So does he mean like the Dish Network? Yeah, that's what he means. The Dish Network. He loves the Dish Network. You sure he doesn't mean like a C-Band thing or something? Well, that would be cooler. Why don't I get that? I'm gonna see that send a mail back and forth, but I think that would be great Yeah, I would love to have C band we both have had the dish network I have it now, and I really like it and it's good for C span But the C band when those big old dishes yeah are cheaper than they've ever been and you can get and they have HD TV Which is apparently really good? Yeah, it's called 4d TV or something you can get all the all the satellite feeds And you can listen in while people get all those little clips in between yeah watch Anderson Cooper picking his nose and stuff

34:45 Yeah, well, I don't know if you'd want to watch that but oh yeah, oh yeah David Hoffman sir David Hoffman and Nola, Pennsylvania came with $800 $300 credit to Rhino the beard in 300 to get most slave 200 karma to yellow JKT yellow jackets Wow, that's amazing. That's so nice of everyone. Cool. You've got karma Thank you, sir, David Stephen Jaffe and Rancho Palos Verde, California 44411 Paul Elvid sir Paul Elvis elves elves that's a paul the book guy paul the book guy are one of the great guys by the way yeah 39168 uh sir chris gielan in brussels heeling at 369 i assume the clip show is 368 so this is to become a member of the very special 369 club john the clip show was fantastic greg mir van dot in 2012

35:40 That was pretty good. I think everyone in Holland and Belgium understood you. Good. Baron Von Pelsmacher came in with 368, which was I guess the Clip Show thing. We'll credit him with a 368 club membership separately. In the morning, Merry Christmas to John and renowned media assassins always and consistently pointing out the bogativeness in mainstream media on the best podcast in the universe. Hope you both have a great Christmas and happy holidays to all you regular donors of the show and maybe a little karma shot for all of them. Of course. You've got karma. I don't know how that worked out. I want to take advantage of the magic numbers and ask for some karma. And also, I think he has a theory, he's heard a document about how BP, a lot of oil was found in Alaska enough to supply the US for 20 years, but they were told not to tell anyone.

36:50 We have actually enough oil in North Dakota to supply the US. And we could run on natural gas for 300 years. Yeah, and we also have 350 years supply of coal if we did nothing but burn coal. We got lots of energy. Yeah, we should just capture all the hamburger farts and we could go for at least 25 years. So give him a karma. You've got karma. Mark Leigh in Long Eaton, Derbyshire UK 33311 Robert Alter in Kansas City, Missouri 333 Paul Palchak in Camberwell Victoria Australia my annual subscription could I please have some karma for a new work venture absolutely

37:35 And those will be our executive producers and for associate executive producers we got Herbert Harms in Great Bend, Kansas. What's wrong with Kansas? Nothing. John and Adam here's some value for value for the hard work and effort you both put into the show I hope you and all the other producers have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year Andrew $250 Dr. Anonymous in Pearl and Texas two three four dot five six He wants what sincere. Thanks for the hard work we do He'd like the NDAA show. He's donating for no special reason at all. I think numerology, he came with 23456. I think numerology is pure bull crap and I'm simply doing this as a goof. Good, keep it up. Additionally, please give me and my loving hot pregnant wife karma and blessings in the new year and again,

38:27 Again, he says I think he may have a de-douching coming too, but just give I think I want you to give his wife a milf of course Karma absolutely send pictures And he was only going to donate 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, not believing in numerology, but his dream in life was to become an executive producer of the No Agenda show. Good for him. I think everyone should have that as their goal. He says this Belgian ale I'm drinking is also helping to loosen up the pocketbooks. Exactly. Donate drunk. Donate drunk.

39:04 Massimo Cazeneo in Noosa, Queensland Australia 22222. Thanks for the show. Happy New Year's. Please give a birthday call to his daughter would do that later and the kids love the birthday postcards. Falco Richter in Berlin, Germany. Hey John and Anna, Merry Christmas from Berlin! He came in with 2-2-2. I'm stealing executive producership after listening to the show from number one. Please keep up the good work. You need some karma for his girlfriend whose department is being replaced by people in Prague. No, thank you. Hello EU so she will be looking for a new job within the next year I'd like some de-douching give him a combo. Yeah, hold on a second You've been de-douched you've got karma The Osa producership makes up for that. Yes Frohweihnachten Frohweihnachten Falco Richter I want to hear John pronounce my name correctly in German I'm sure this I think he did pretty good actually

40:06 Sir Barris love Maranoff back again our rhyming order of the rhyming night Lisa Villi Viejo in California at 201 tan Merry Christmas happy new year send some good karma to all listeners especially my family wife and future kids by the way in the USA go by Bobby not by Boris we like Boris yeah the amount is the year shifted And he wants the donation attributed to his twin boys, Knighthood. So you keep the books and we'll take care of it. Yeah. Okay, give him, he needs a karma for the listeners. Of course, here we go. You've got karma.

40:46 And finally, Dean Carson in Nairn, South Australia, $200 and he wishes everyone and us a Merry Christmas. That's so nice. Well, thank you all so much because as you know, donating is loving. And this is of course, as John pointed out, we'll be hitting a little bit past the affiliate breaks because we're doing thanks and credits for two shows. These credits, of course, are real. You can put them on your resume, on your IMDB, and unlike the phonies in Hollywood, If you need us to vouch for you, which by the way doesn't happen a lot. There's not a lot of you know I think these credits are taken seriously I don't see a lot of people say a lot of times no they see the credits and they just assume the Credit yeah, but once in a while they'll check and of course the the websites to show your love is a vorac.org Slash and a donating is loving

CHAPTER 16 / 48 Discussion

No Agenda Domain Names and Human Rights Observatory

The hosts showcase several new domain names registered by listeners to support the show's themes, including "TheDroneStarState.com" and "EUFoundingFathers.com." A significant portion of the segment is dedicated to "ObservatoryForHumanRights.com," a site built by producer Brad Doherty that parodies official human rights organizations while directing traffic to No Agenda.

domain names· eufoundingfathers.com· observatoryforhumanrights.com· brad doherty· activism

41:39 So, I was up in... Hold on, hold on. I have PR mentions. Oh, I also got to mention Dvorak.org slash NA but also channel Dvorak.com slash NA. No Agenda Nation has a button and so does NoAgendaShow.com. Groovy. A couple of... Oh, by the way, I should also mention our next show is the first show of the year and I think it's a great time to donate. Yeah. Get in on that one. Get in for the numerology. Some websites forwarding to noagendashow.com. Actually, this one I might want to do something with. TheDroneStarState.com. Oh, that's where you are. That's where I am, The Drone Star State, so I think that'll be my new mantra.

42:25 I cannot believe this was available, but John now pointing to the noagendashow.com website, eufoundingfathers.com We gotta put a site up there, a real one. Another Bogan of no agenda site. Just put some dudes in there. Phony pictures but the guys write names and then somebody will put us in there. Or how about just a whole bunch of guys from the chat. Like Mr. Oil will auction off minister of energy. Yeah, we'll auction off a minister ministerial positions And then we have Brad Doherty who did a whole bunch of what he says I've been sitting on this one for a while douche BA dot GS

43:17 Which is a good one. Douchebag. Yeah, doucheba.gs. What's a TLD on a GS? I don't know, but if you go to douchebag.gs, the picture shows a douchebag. And then if you click on the picture, it goes to the NA show notes. He also registered for us. Let me see. Ooh! Observatoryforhumanrights.com. Hello! This is what we need, John. This is going to get, this is going to put us on the map. That's a good one observatory for human rights calm and go straight to the next year should be to actually do some stuff with some of these crazy websites, okay? Douchebag it's a guy some guy Then we also have trains good planes bad calm let's vote for jobs calm I think these are the ones that he had registered previously so he's really good. He also registered eat the rich dot us and

44:16 And this is great. But I think Observatoryforhumanrights.com.org NoagendaHR.com and .org This is great. Oh, he has a... Oh, hold on a second. If you go to Observatoryforhumanrights.com He put up a website, I think. Hold on a second. He has like a whole No Agenda website that he's built. Oh, this is cool. Hold on, let me check this again. Oh, yeah. That's the No Agenda Observatory for Human Rights. Just send your cash. This is fantastic. Good job. Observatoryforhumanrights.com. Alright, that's the kind of stuff that we love. Thank you so much. Of course, everybody else out there, you do have a mission. You need to go out and propagate that formula. Our formula is this.

CHAPTER 17 / 48 Discussion

No Agenda Short Film and iPhone Cinematography

Adam Curry describes a rough cut of a short film submitted by Australian producers that satirizes the life of a podcaster under government surveillance. The film features No Agenda "slave" t-shirts and references to "win-lose-or-drone." Curry notes the high production quality despite the film being shot entirely on an iPhone 4S.

short film· iphone 4s· podcaster· satire· australia

45:21 We go out we hit people in the mouth wear it on your t-shirts Oh, I do have to mention one more thing a couple of our producers down under are you eating yeah, and I have a story to tell about this eating go on a couple of our producers down under have done a are submitting a short film to a short film Festival and they sent me the rough cut and

46:03 And it's like, you might as well just call it the no agenda movie. It is hilarious. It's about a podcaster who gets the knock on the door. It's exactly what it is. Mr. Adam Curry. Open up the door, Mr. Curry! Now! And the whole thing there people you know the extras on the street are wearing no agenda slave t-shirts You know guys getting to to the head people giving karma and then the cops are chasing them and they're like in the car with a radar It's like it's and the and the the feds say it's time to play win-lose or drone I mean, it's hilarious So they want me to do some voiceover stuff which I'm gonna do and they shot it entirely on an iPhone and

46:50 It's really good. There's some effects in there too. Well you can get a pretty good movie with the iPhone 4S. Yeah, I mean it's good and I can't wait for this thing to come out. It was just a rough cut. This was the... It was like dailies, but it was strung together and it said explosion here, so I know they're gonna do this. They have like... They're shooting guns and you see walls exploding and people shot in the head with blood spurting out. It's pretty good. So I look forward to that. It's still under wraps, but it's coming.

CHAPTER 18 / 48 Discussion

George Soros and the Center for Responsive Politics

The hosts debunk a "powerful" New York Times and ABC News report claiming Congress got richer during the recession. They trace the data back to the Center for Responsive Politics (OpenSecrets.org), which is funded by George Soros's Open Society Institute. The hosts argue the report is a propaganda tool designed to fuel "Occupy Wall Street" style class resentment.

george soros· center for responsive politics· open secrets· wealth gap· propaganda

47:33 So over the... I want to say something about the New York Times. Well, you sure? Yeah, I am sure because there was this report all of a sudden and I did a little bit of research here and this really, really bugged me when I heard it. Listen, because this was picked up by everybody. And we shift gears now. A powerful study today from... This is Diane Sawyer, ABC. I think we can tell. She sounds like the editor of the New York Times. Yeah, she's in the millions. From the New York Times. Confirming something so many people have suspected. Members of Congress are not only a lot richer than average Americans,

48:13 they got richer still during the recession. As ordinary Americans saw their net worth go down 8%, members of Congress saw theirs go up 15%. And why was that? We asked ABC's anchor Dan Harris to track down the answer. Democratic House Leader Nancy Pelosi, a millionaire, reportedly spent Christmas in a $10,000 a night hotel suite in Hawaii. Democratic Senator John Kerry, worth $231 million, provoked an uproar when he docked his $7 million yacht in a neighboring state to avoid taxes.

48:49 Republican Congressman Darrell Issa, the richest member of Congress, is worth nearly half a billion dollars. And then there's Republican Congressman James Sensenbrenner, who was already a multi-millionaire when he hit the lottery three times. Congress is pretty much evenly divided between red and blue, but there is one color that is very much bipartisan and that is green. So this report goes on and on. Hold on a second. Yeah, I know, he hit the lottery three times, I know. I know, that was very annoying. So what does that insinuate? The guys on the inside of the lottery? I'm not sure what they meant by that. And by the way, this is just not a report, John. It's a very powerful report, as you heard Diane Sawyer say.

49:31 Powerful so I went to so then I go to this New York Times thing and So of course the conclusion of this is partially because something that you've been talking about for a long long time Which is that you know? It's not illegal for all this insider trading that goes on in Congress Because you know they make the laws so they can invest early get in early, and you know sell on the news but the New York Times report cites their data and From something called the Center for Responsive Politics. Have you heard of such an organization? No. So of course I go look up the Center for Responsive Politics because apparently that's where the data came from. Thinking to myself, well maybe these guys had something to do with this report. If you consult the Book of Knowledge that takes you to OpenSecrets.org

50:27 And OpenSecrets.org says, help us shine a light on money and politics. About us, hmm, funders, let me see, who's the top funder? Oh, the Open Society Institute, Soros. This is George Soros stirring up the pot. This is the whole Occupy Wall Street 99% versus the 1%. This is just to get people mad at each other. This whole thing is propaganda. You think? Yeah, but I mean, but it's, but the New York Times, how compromised are these jabronis?

CHAPTER 19 / 48 Discussion

Sunlight Foundation and Transparency Activism

The discussion expands to the Sunlight Foundation, noting its funding from tech figures like Craig Newmark and Jimmy Wales. The hosts express skepticism toward "transparency" organizations, suggesting they are partisan entities that serve specific political agendas while appearing to be neutral watchdogs.

sunlight foundation· craig newmark· jimmy wales· transparency· political funding

51:09 I mean that's really bad. And by the way, you go look at the OpenSecrets.org website, this report, this powerful report is not on the website. In fact, and this came out right after Christmas, on their homepage it says, the Center for Responsive Politics will be closed between Saturday, December 24th and Monday, January 2nd for the Christmas and New Year's holidays. So this powerful report, when did they get this? They weren't even open when all this came out. It's not on their website. The whole thing is one big propaganda. An inside job. Total inside job. What's interesting to me is that the Sunlight Foundation actually gives them more money than Soros does. And the Sunlight Foundation, we're talking about Craig Newmark of Craigslist, Jimmy Wales of Wikipedia, Lawrence Lessig.

52:01 Really? Yeah, Esther Dyson is like the usual suspects. So you can't trust any of these people? I would say that's probably true. That's why we do this show. If you go to the Sunlight Foundation, first story, the political 1% of the 1%. This is all about just getting people angry at each other. Making government transparent and accountable. Really? Well, how's that working out? Well, they got their man in there. What good does it do them? I mean, we're talking about that whole group is all Democrats, by the way. A transparent gift for the holidays. Let your transparency superhero know how much you care with a gift from the Sunlight Foundation. What does that mean? Shop sunlight. Oh, that's funny. Go to donate.sunlightfoundation.com. We need to hire this guy. Let me take a look at him. How not to sell a mug in a t-shirt. Ha ha ha! He's got some douchebag as the model.

CHAPTER 20 / 48 Discussion

General David Petraeus Biography and CIA-Obama Tensions

The hosts discuss the upcoming biography of General David Petraeus, "All In," written by Paula Broadwell and Vernon Loeb. They interpret leaked excerpts as an opening salvo in a renewed conflict between the CIA and the Obama administration. The segment also touches on the Pentagon's influence over retired military analysts appearing on news networks like CNN.

david petraeus· paula broadwell· cia· barack obama· all in

53:11 And then they have some chick with huge bazookas. Yeah, she's huge. You got a big top. They're so big that they had to get her in frame. They apparently had to turn her sideways. I'm telling you this is anyway. So the New York Times is I mean, that proves they're just completely compromised, compromised, completely compromised, just taking data that no one else can get to. And oh, and look how bad look how evil the 1% is no good. They're all no good. The other thing is kind of in the same light of that story is that this stuff that's leaking out is a lot of it began this morning. The leaking out of the new book all in the education of General David Petraeus which is coming out in January and they've leaked it. Oh I haven't heard about this. You mean the PR companies on the ball is what you're saying. They leaked it.

54:07 They leaked it. And so the book has got a bunch of weird stuff in it that is very much like the Stanley McChrystal stuff. Oh. Where Petraeus is bitching about the president and, oh, it got out the way he did. And he apparently had this quote in there. I guess it was either with McChrystal or somebody. And I haven't isolated it because I only caught the end of a report this morning about how Patreus says, well the president was fucking with the wrong guy. Oh, really? Yeah, and so of course he's apologized for his use of language. Oh, now I understand why we had that whole story about, oh, the Pentagon did an audit of the experts they pushed forward, the retired experts that push forward to television. Yeah. So this is part of the promotion for the book.

55:03 Aha, okay, yeah, that makes sense. In fact, they even said, yeah, here it is. The internal review was apparently found no fault with the exclusion of four individuals So what happens is the Pentagon essentially does luncheons and brunches and all kinds of little get-togethers for these retired experts who go on all the news programs and they brief them to make sure they've got their facts right. Yeah, this is a brainwashing session. Tech companies do this. I go to them all the time and I go, you know, it's just what you do. You want to get brainwashed. Wearing your tinfoil hat, I presume. Oh yeah.

55:42 But they spoke critically of a couple of individuals, specifically General Wesley Clark, who apparently lost his position as an analyst for CNN because of Pentagon and White House displeasure with what he had to say. This is the guy that actually blew the whistle on the whole idea of, hey, let's go in to Iraq and Lebanon and Syria and let's get all these countries. It says it right here in the report. So CNN basically only hires people that the Pentagon says is okay? Correct. Wow. You are correct sir. Wow. So this is a biography of Petraeus. Now he's now ahead of the CIA and so there's a lot of stuff in here that obviously now the

56:36 The CIA's involvement, I think we're gonna see in 2012, next year, we're gonna see the re-emergence of something we used to talk about on the show two or three years ago, which was the CIA versus Obama battle. And this is the opening salvo. The book comes out right away in the first part of 2012. 2012 marks the point where it begins again. What is the name of the book again? All in. All in. Let's see. It's all in and there's colon the education of General David Petraeus. And apparently Petraeus was gonna quit over four-star general CIA director Petraeus was urged to resign as Afghanistan war commander over President Barack Obama's decision to quickly draw down surge forces.

57:28 And then he backed off on his gun, he's threatening to quit. So this is then a hit job from, against the CIA is what you're saying? No, no, I think this is a CIA hit job against Obama. Oh, okay. So it is his book? It's a book about him. Written by... Who wrote it? I guess Paul Abroad, well some people I've never heard of these writers. All their field agents. I have no idea who wrote this, but it comes out on that January 24th field agents. Paula Broadwell. Let me take a look at what she's written. I'll get these people on the big book show.

58:08 Oh yeah, definitely. She has not published anything else, so she's a first-timer. And Vernon Lube, he must be... Go right to the top with a first-time book, that makes sense. Yeah. He wrote King's Council, a memoir of war, espionage and diplomacy in the Middle East. Sounds suspicious. Vernon Lube, we gotta consult the book on knowledge on this guy. He must have a wiki page. What's his name? Vernon Lube. L-O-E-B. Probably Loeb. Loeb. Loeb, Loeb, Loeb, Loeb, Loeb, Loeb, Loeb. Oh, interesting.

58:50 He also wrote this, oh this is interesting, The Secret War Between the FBI and CIA, a non-fiction book by American historian and policy analyst Mark Rebling. I guess, so he's in the game. He contributed to that book. Yeah, he started back in the early 90s as a Pentagon correspondent. Field agents. A national security correspondent. Field agents. Well good, then we have a lot of PR to look forward to. Oh yeah, this is going to be great. That's the PR for people who read.

CHAPTER 21 / 48 Discussion

Nike Air Jordan Concord 11 Release Riots

The release of the Nike Air Jordan Concord 11 shoes resulted in reports of pushing, shoving, and pepper-spraying at malls across the United States. The hosts suggest these "riots" may have been orchestrated or exaggerated as a PR move by Nike to create artificial demand and hype for the product.

nike· air jordan· concord 11· retail riots· pr stunt

59:29 There was some PR for the rest of us though. Did you see Nike's PR move? It got a little out of hand, but I think they did a good job. Did you see this one? The one about the Oregon uniforms? Nike released a new shoe this morning and this was the scene in a lot of places. This video from Indianapolis shows people trampling each other to get a pair of the new Nike Air Jordan. Now this is so good because if you listen to the report, so you can't see it, but they're showing the shoe continuously in the box And everyone's like, yeah, I got it, I got it. It's like crazy. Retros. King 5's Natalie Swabe has more on the madness in Tukwila where police had to step in. They just moved everybody to one single line so they're pretty upset. We're, yeah, in the middle of pushing and shoving.

1:00:17 They're fighting over these shoes. Everyone's fighting over the shoes. The anger and arguments for this. There you have it, the Concord 11s. There you have it, beautiful pack shot. Good job. Carlisa Williams made it to the mall by midnight to get her hands on a pair. Now did you see any other riots anywhere around the country for these dumb shoes? No, yeah, no selected selected outlets Selected outlets were very sound as though there's a riot in every town that had these shoes Yeah, this was a PR move a blatant PR move by Nike I bet you they hired people to go and and jam the store. That would be worth it Yeah, but yeah, but some of their extras got pepper sprayed which is kind of a bummer Man, it's just unbelievable

1:01:03 These shoes. It's just got pepper spray. Hey man, I didn't sign up for this! Hey, where's my check man? I want out. It's no good! They probably could get people to do the writing if they gave them. You don't have to pay them, you just give them a pair of shoes. Give them the shoes. The way the guy does with the girls gone wild, they get a t-shirt. I think that scam is not as easy anymore. What, the t-shirt scam? Yeah, where the girls gone wild. I don't know, I'll bet you it is. I get the sneaking suspicion that it is. Well, I don't know. I can go ask some of the girls. They got $5 dances at XTC Cabaret in Austin. Yeah, ask them if they'd do it for a t-shirt and get on the video. Wow.

CHAPTER 22 / 48 Discussion

Syrian Unrest and Russian Diplomatic Protection

Reports from Russian media suggest a deal is in place to offer Bashar al-Assad safe haven in Russia, potentially in collaboration with the United States. The hosts analyze the presence of Arab League observers and the strategic importance of Russian naval ports in Syria. They speculate that the Syrian situation is being managed according to a geopolitical playbook involving Exxon and Vladimir Putin.

syria· bashar al-assad· russia· arab league· geopolitics

1:01:54 Yeah, well back to the New York Times I want to point out some stories that showed up today and a6 we've moved up to violence flares in Syria. Yeah, this is this is interesting Mr. Oil who has I think he speaks Russian. He sent me an article from the Russian newspaper the see which newspaper is it? News are you calm where it says specifically, highlights, Russia will take Bashar under protection, offered him and his family safe haven in Russia, and the entire operation is in collaboration with the USA.

1:02:49 That's according to the Russian newspapers. And of course, they have all these... Really, if you watch the news... And by the way, they brought Hala Ghalani on to CNN. Whenever she's on, then something's gonna happen. Because when Libya happened, Hala Ghalani, all of us remember her? Hala Ghalani? She's kind of cute, right? Hala Ghalani. And I don't understand why she's not on more often. Particularly, you know, from a television producer and consultant. She probably has the she probably gaffes every so too much or something. Who knows? Well, she did. But I don't know. She she does a good job. And but whenever she's on, it's always about Middle East stuff. And then, oh, here we go. And so they have the observers from the Arab League. Yeah, these are a trustworthy bunch. The observers from the Arab League and they're in there and they're getting mobbed.

1:03:38 They're getting mobbed by the people, but they're only showing cell phone footage and they're saying, oh, it's really dangerous. Meanwhile, thousands of Syrians chanted death to America Saturday during funeral processions in Damascus for 44 of the people killed in twin suicide bombings. Why would they say death to America and not death to Assad? Why is that? Well, you tell me. Because the whole thing is a phony fake setup. They want to get this guy out so they can take over and I guess we have a deal with the Russians clearly according to the periodical that we were sent. Well, we've said that there's been a deal with the Russians ever since we started looking at Cyprus and then we started looking at the Russian ports and we decided that the Russians are docked there in Syria and then all of a sudden all this stuff changes. The Syria threat goes away once Exxon does a deal with Putin.

1:04:32 And then the whole thing is now under some, it's on some playbook that we don't have access to but it was obvious something's going up. Well I think, I think it's gonna happen. I think we're not gonna have a drone situation or no-fly zone. I think he will step down, he'll get out of the way and then we move in with the Russians somehow. Maybe this is all us and the Russians against China. That could be. That would make nothing but sense to me. Because the Chinese are moving their ships around, right? Don't they have ships everywhere? Yeah, they're moving stuff around and the Russians are just as freaked out as we are that they're gonna take all our stuff. Bastards. Chiners.

CHAPTER 23 / 48 Discussion

Rick Santorum's Iowa Caucus Surge

The hosts mock CNN's coverage of Rick Santorum "surging" to third place in the Iowa caucus polls. They characterize the media's sudden focus on Santorum as a manufactured narrative to keep the Republican primary race exciting. The segment critiques the cozy relationship between candidates and news anchors like Wolf Blitzer.

rick santorum· iowa caucus· cnn· wolf blitzer· gop primary

1:05:14 Get out of here, China. And the Assad guy is a loose cannon. I think he has a weird lineage. Yeah, well I think he's not a guy you want. I mean, he's just not going to cut it. Well, why don't we give Obama to them then? Sorry? Why don't we give Obama to Syria? Do a trade. We can take care of that guy. No problem. In Texas, we know how to deal with people like that. Have you seen the latest X Factor moves? No, I don't watch the X Factor. Yes, you do. No, I don't. I mean the political X Factor, the Republican race.

1:05:57 Oh, that X-factor. Yeah. Well, what about it? What do you mean? It's just, it looks like playbook material to me. Here it is. Who's the next guy to move up? We got to move, we got to have Santorum. Our top story is stunning turnaround here in Iowa. Stunning! Our latest CNN Time ORC poll shows Rick Santorum surging to third place with 16% as Newt Gingrich fades badly and falls into fourth place. Isn't that, he's like doing sports scores now. Surging to third place is Newt Gingrich. Newt Gingrich fades away. And we got Lucky Newt coming up just behind, but Lucky Newt is fading back. We have Rick Santorum. We've got his frothy mix, frothy mix, frothy mix for the win, frothy mix now at number three. Santorum has covered just about every inch of the state of Iowa.

1:06:42 Staking his campaign on a strong showing here among social conservatives and others and it certainly seems to be paying off with six and he's got a shit-eating grin on his face days to go until the caucuses the former senator the White House hopeful is joining us now live in the UK you got a big smile on your face. I always smile when I'm with you. You've always been pretty upbeat that things were eventually going to move in the right direction. Upbeat? The guy's a Jill. I'm always I'm always smiling with you wolf as he pats his arm. Oh He's live in studio. No. He's no wolf is on his bus a wolf is live in Iowa on his bus Oh brother

CHAPTER 24 / 48 Discussion

GOP Primary Rigging and Delegate Allocation Rules

A deep dive into Republican primary rules reveals that delegates are allocated on a proportional basis for contests held before April 1st. The hosts argue this system is rigged to favor a well-funded establishment candidate like Mitt Romney, who can accumulate a lead even without winning every state outright. They suggest both parties may be hesitant to win the 2012 election due to the dire state of the economy.

gop primary· delegates· mitt romney· proportional representation· election rules

1:07:24 I mean, I guess they really think that they're fooling us with this stuff. I mean, if you walk down the street right now and say Rick Santorum, how many people would actually know who that is? Nobody. Nobody. Of course not. Unless you ran into a no agenda producer. And then Gary Johnson. And then they'd laugh. Yeah. And Gary Johnson quit the Republican Party. Yeah. He's being used as a... To break it up. He's being used to go third party to screw the Republicans for some reason. I still think, we've talked about this before too, many a time, that there's, I think there's an underlying sense by both parties that you really don't want to win this next election because of what's going to happen to the economy. Yeah. So it might be beneficial to bring in a third party to sink Romney because he can beat Obama. Well, it's pretty clear that Wall Street is putting their money behind Romney. That's for sure.

1:08:19 They're really going on. Yeah, they've also changed, Fox has changed his whole tune about Romney. If you recall, when this campaigning began, they were so anti-Romney, they'd do anything to keep him from getting in. They hated him because he was Mormon. Yeah, because most of them got screwed by him. We did a bunch of reports about the Mormon thing and how nobody was going to talk about it and Fox was against him and Ron Paul and then all of a sudden because of the Ron Paul threat they realized that they had to get on board with somebody so now there's huge Romney fans. It's amazing. What turns out though, the thing that I just learned is that the way the Republican primary rules are written

1:09:03 Here it is. Any presidential primary, caucus, convention, or other meeting held for the purpose of selecting delegates to the national convention, which occurs prior to the first day of April in the year in which the national convention is held, shall provide for the allocation of delegates on a proportional basis. Now what this means is that delegates will be apportioned to candidates on a proportional basis in Republican caucuses and primaries conducted before April 1st. So everything we've seen to date, obviously Iowa, then we have New Hampshire, every state in fact except Florida which has a like a winner-take-all rule.

1:09:42 So the way I see it is this proportional representation means that you can still have all these different delegates go. It's like this, it's fixed. It's completely rigged. Yeah, it's rigged for the one guy that they can't that that who gets a number you know like he keeps coming in second and second second then takes all of California right exactly these big there's two or three of these monster states Pennsylvania New York California I think there's maybe another couple but whatever the case they get all those guys and they just walk walk away walk away with it yeah

CHAPTER 25 / 48 Discussion

Ron Paul's Third-Party Prospects and Political Risks

The hosts debate whether Ron Paul will launch a third-party bid if he fails to secure the Republican nomination. While Paul has publicly denied the possibility, the hosts remain skeptical. The conversation takes a dark turn as they discuss the historical precedent of political assassinations, such as Bobby Kennedy, and the potential for civil unrest if Paul were harmed.

ron paul· third party· bobby kennedy· assassination· gop primary

1:10:18 Yeah, no, it's rigged. It's always rigged. That's why I think you can make the prediction it was going to be Romney at the beginning of this whole thing and I'm still sticking with the Rick Perry thing because I don't see any alternative. What I will not allow myself to say, I will not allow myself to say, you know, there's no chance of Ron Bell winning. I just won't say it. I think, you know... No, there is a chance. I think there is a chance. I'm not predicting that. I mean I'm gonna make a prediction. You are! You're predicting. But I would like to see Ron Paul win and I think there is a chance he can win but I think they'll shoot him. Oh man don't say that thing man. That's horrible. But you know what? I saw it happen in Holland. I saw it happen with Bobby Kennedy. Bobby Kennedy was gonna be elected president. Then they, well they certainly killed him didn't they? They shot him in Los Angeles. Yeah in a kitchen. Right. Yeah well

1:11:15 And of course, you know, there's done by some... I'll tell you one thing. If that would happen, then the cockeye hits the fan. You know, you would have thought the same thing when they shot Bobby Kennedy. I think it's a little different now. I do. I think... I think the people today are more cowed than they were back then when they were openly rioting back in the 60s and 70s. Then today there's very little, they got the free speech zone they put up with, everybody's playing the non-violent game and can't use a microphone, okay we won't use a microphone. I mean whatever they're told they do it. And so I don't see this, I think this group is much more docile. And nothing would happen if anything happened to Ron Paul. Or if he pulls a Ross Perot and just quits. I don't think he'll do that. I don't think so either.

1:12:11 Well, you know what? I'm counting on the black and Latino vote. That's what I think will make the difference. I really do. I think so too. You know, most of those people, or many of them, are registered Democrats. They have to re-register as a Republican to vote for Ron Paul in the primaries and get him in in the first place. Yeah, well, but he still hasn't ruled out a third party bid, which would be very difficult, I guess. Yes, he has. He has ruled it out over and over again. He makes a big deal about it. No, he has not. He says, no, it's not time to discuss that. He says, I'm not considering that now. I have heard him say over and over again that there's no chance he's going to do it.

1:12:51 I bet you if he does not become the Republican candidate, he will go third party. I can put that in your book. I'll put it in the book and you're going to be dead wrong. Put it in the book? I mean, I wasn't too wrong about it. It's going in as we speak. Put it in the book? There was something else we were right on the other day. What was that? Something about... Oh, by the way, yeah, here it is. Remember that banker from Greenhill?

CHAPTER 26 / 48 Discussion

Greenhill & Co. and the Failed AT&T T-Mobile Merger

The hosts follow up on a previous story regarding a banker from Greenhill & Co. who died in a plane crash. They note that the firm's rankings in the M&A sector plummeted to 40th place following the collapse of the $39 billion AT&T and T-Mobile acquisition, suggesting a link between the failed deal and the firm's misfortunes.

greenhill & co· at&t· t-mobile· mergers and acquisitions· financial collapse

1:13:27 Yeah? Who crashed his plane in weird circumstances. Right. Follow up to that, AT&T's failed $39 billion acquisition of T-Mobile is sending Greenhill & Co. towards M&A league table obscurity. They plunged to 40th place in the mergers and acquisition rankings after AT&T scrapped its deal. Huh, huh, huh the guy must have got my say, you know, I this is a this is a done deal put your money into this and you know Someone got really angry about that Insurance in case yeah Wow when I read that I'm like, okay, there's only one thing you can say it's events. I think not please Coincidence. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, there's a lot of money involved I got a historical clip for you, which you probably saw on

CHAPTER 27 / 48 Discussion

Joe Biden's Praise for Jon Corzine and MF Global

A historical clip of Vice President Joe Biden praising Jon Corzine is played, highlighting the administration's close ties to the disgraced MF Global CEO. In the clip, Biden credits Corzine with helping design the national economic recovery plan. The hosts contrast this praise with Corzine's subsequent involvement in the loss of over $1 billion in customer funds.

joe biden· jon corzine· mf global· economic stimulus· new jersey

1:14:30 Now President Obama, or actually the, it's headlined as Obama, but I don't think that's true. I think it's the Democratic Party has returned $70,000 of Corzine donations. Yeah, they kept like a quarter of a million. Oh really? Yeah, that's only part of it. Oh, they spent that? I guess, it's gone. So the historical clip that's been doing the round now we already had we already played a couple weeks ago President Obama freaking out about Corazon because of course Corazon was a big bundler bought in a lot of money and Let's face it. The guy was the Federal Reserve Goldman Sachs, you know super shill. He's there anyone in the White House this guy's bitch But have you heard the Joe Biden thing where Corazon is standing right next to him?

1:15:18 No. I mean literally one of the early discussions we had in Chicago in preparation for the administration our transition team out there. We got together I think it was 30, 35 economists all left right center and what do we talk about? The first question they want to raise with us is whether we might have to call a bank holiday. A bank holiday on our the day after we were sworn in. Ladies and gentlemen The president and I weren't back there blaming John Corzine. They know what we were doing. We were on the phone calling John Corzine. Literally. I literally picked up the phone and called John Corzine and said, John, what do you think we should do? The reason why we called John

1:16:07 is because we knew he knew about the economy, about world markets, about how we had to respond, unlike almost anyone we knew. And because he had been in the pit, he had been in the furnace, and we trusted his judgment. And everybody kind of forgets this. But what we heard from John is what we needed to do. What we needed to do, we needed a serious economic recovery plan. John had already, no I'm not doing this for applause, I'm just, as he used to say, ain't brag man, just facts, just the facts. The facts were, John, leading your legislature, was already moving in New Jersey on an economic stimulus package. Before anybody else was. But John knew, John knew,

1:17:03 But other governors know, but many didn't acknowledge, that it wasn't sufficient. No state was big enough. As strong and as wealthy and as powerful as your state, no state was big enough to be the economic engine for national growth. So John suggested and laid out and we talked a long time about what the elements of the recovery package nationally should be. We knew without a national package, it wouldn't work and John was right. You talk about Christie being wrong, I can start a mantra where John was right. John was right about this. So folks, John was right. John was right.

CHAPTER 28 / 48 Discussion

Media Industry Sexism and Broadcasting Standards

The hosts discuss the superficial standards of the broadcasting industry, citing rumors that female anchors like Paula Zahn were pressured to show more leg on air. They share anecdotes from their own careers, including a story about an MTV VJ allegedly being fired over leg hair and Leo Laporte being told to stop wearing Hawaiian shirts to appear more "serious."

cnn· erin burnett· paula zahn· mtv· broadcasting

1:17:50 Yeah, he broke the state and of course then he can't even run this company without corrupting the customers funds which is totally illegal. The guy should be locked up for a hundred years. Oh no, it'd be nothing. You see that smug look on his face? Oh, oh John, hold on a second. We have breaking news. Rick Santorum, he's shaking up the field. It's like any small business person. This is live on CNN. Nobody's not coming in. You just got to work harder. And that's what we're doing. We're continuing to work hard. We're we're going to GOP presidential field shakeups only five days before Iowa caucus. John, it's amazing what's happening right before our very eyes. What corrupt news organization are you taking this from? CNN. Iowa and the situation room.

1:18:31 I guess it does roll in a centaur's efforts are they paying off our team? Wow stupid do they think we are I don't think they have a lot of watchers anymore. No. Well not viewers. Not with Erin Burnett. They do that so wrong. I know they're handling her... Yeah, we've discussed it but it's just it's sad because the the Curry Dvorak consulting group. I mean we could send Buzzkill Jr. in. Yeah, he could do the job. He could go and he could fix it right up. You know, she needs to show some leg. Yeah, where's the legs? And by the way, don't get all angry. We're on a treadmill for a while, take advantage of this. Don't talk, please don't say that we're all like sexist and stuff. We're talking like CNN executives speak.

1:19:21 This is how it works. That's the way CNN, all network executives, all suits speak like that. They're constantly talking, they fire people for gaining a few pounds, they're always criticizing their looks. It's got to be miserable being a woman in broadcasting, especially at a high level. I mean Paula Zahn quit Fox because she wouldn't show enough legs. They kept telling her to show more legs, more legs, more legs, and she finally gave up and quit. Remember Carolyn Heldman at MTV? Yeah, she was from Colorado kind of girl next door. She was hired as like the girl next door very sweet very very nice girl and she was wearing shorts and Our thighs were you know a little big made it looked a little bigger on television, but that wasn't it. It's like the executives actually called down to the studio and said tell her to shave her legs or put on some pants and she said And she got fired over that

1:20:22 I swear to God she got fired over her hairy legs. She had hairy legs? Yeah, you know like little duck hair, you know, like blonde. It wasn't horrible. She was a big hairy woman. No, it wasn't like big black hairy legs. She got fired over it for sure. I will testify. Welcome to Broadcasting 101. Yeah, that's exactly what it is at that low level. Because let's face it, MTV VJ is below disc jockey. on the showbiz ladder rung. Pretty bad. Well that's why you were so popular. You were a good looking guy with a big bunch of hair. Yeah, but I didn't have hair. Well, I didn't show my hairy legs.

1:21:03 Well they tried to, they actually fired me several times over my hair. Cut your hair, no, cut your hair. Your hair was too long? Your hair was a big, it was your trademark. Why would you cut your hair? This reminds me of over at Tech TV when Leo Laporte had a show, he always wore these crazy, really wild, and he started collecting them, wild Hawaiian shirts, which in broadcasting you always actually want, you know if you're going to play kind of a goofball, Yeah, you want to be goofy. You want to be goofy. Comedians should wear wild costumes. I mean, you want to wear a costume. Like Bill the Science Guy wears a, has a bow tie. Yeah, it's got to be something distinctive. And one of the suits, one of the idiot suits says, oh, I think this is not, it's not serious enough for the business viewers. He had no viewers period. Let alone business. He had no viewers, but it wasn't serious enough. So they made him wear like this, just a plain shirt. He looked, it was stupid. By the way, I just want to say one thing. Boo to Gawker.

CHAPTER 29 / 48 Discussion

Nash's Produce and the Port Angeles Carrot Review

John C. Dvorak provides a brief food tip regarding Nash's Produce in Port Angeles, Washington. He performs an on-air "crunch test" of a carrot he claims is the best he has ever tasted, praising the sweetness and texture of the locally bred vegetable.

nash's produce· port angeles· carrots· agriculture· food review

1:22:00 For that thing they had about Leo and what's her name? The bookkeeper. Yeah, the bookkeeper. Because I think, you know, it's almost like reminding someone that their parents have sex. Like, I don't want to know about that. I don't want to think about that. You know what I mean? Yeah, it was poorly researched. But besides, forget the research part. I don't want to know about who Leo's having sex with. Don't put that image in my mind. So, uh, I want to mention I was up in Port Angeles and I want to just say anyone who's in the Olympic Peninsula ever, you've got to make a trip out of your way to go to Nash's Produce and buy these carrots that he's bred. These carrots are the most astonishing product I've ever had in so far as a carrot is concerned. I mean, listen to the crunch on these things. This is like a carrot that's not even refrigerated.

CHAPTER 31 / 48 Discussion

ACLU Rights Loss List and HTML5 Concerns

The hosts discuss a list compiled by the ACLU regarding the erosion of civil liberties in the United States. Dvorak claims his research shows a geometric increase in rights loss since the Truman administration. The segment briefly pivots to a technical complaint about the transition from Flash to HTML5 and the persistence of tracking cookies.

aclu· human rights· harry truman· flash· html5

1:29:19 It just makes me sick to my stomach and all that money that's stolen all that all that money. You know what you might as well just milk it for all it's worth. We're just idiots John. I mean thank God we have this new domain name. What is it again? Very memorable to donate. It's observatoryforhumanrights.com. Luckily we have that because you know this is like I can just see it right now. Right now we go over to a spokesperson for the Observatory for Human Rights, John C. Dvorak. John, what do you think about human rights? I think that human rights are being violated left and right and Americans must stop it in other countries.

1:30:04 Pay no attention to our own country and the violation of human rights and the fact that the ACLU or whoever it was just put out a list. Apparently this is going to go on every year now. A list of all the rights that we lost. Do you have that list? No. Oh, I've seen the list. I didn't. It's something of a... My wife Mimi came up with it. But it's like... Or actually, no, JC did. The funny thing about it is that I have been working on this project which has been well documented on the internet of all the loss of human rights in the United States since the founding of the country. And it's a book, it's like a, it's not a book I have but it's like the pile of documentation is like twice the size of the Manhattan phone directory and 90% of the loss began with Harry Truman and just started, it just, it just,

1:31:02 Geometrically goes up like crazy every year we keep losing. We have all the rice that we had in 1930. We probably only have 10% of them left. And so, you know, it's a, well let me see, I have the thing here. So ACLU came out with this thing called... Yeah, it was a couple weeks ago I think they came out with this. Yeah, it's the loss in, you know, I hate these flash things. It's gonna be worse with HTML5 by the way. You think it's gonna be worse with HTML5? Yeah, you watch. Well, Flash has all that cookie stuff, so they're sucking up all your data. That cookie thing is a problem. That'd be less of a problem. They'll just make more normal cookies. Asian cookies. Dirt cookies. The National Defense Authorization Act, which was one of the biggest complaints of the last year, it's interesting what's happening in Montana. What's that? Have you followed this?

CHAPTER 32 / 48 Discussion

Montana's NDAA Recall Efforts

In Montana, citizens are attempting to use a constitutional proviso to recall elected representatives who voted for the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA). The hosts praise this effort, suggesting that voting for unconstitutional legislation should be grounds for immediate removal from office in all states.

montana· ndaa· recall election· constitution· civil liberties

1:31:58 Montana apparently it's in the Montana Constitution that if you're an elected representative to the House or the Senate and you vote against anything that is remotely unconstitutional or even pushes the limit you are subject to instant recall. Oh I thought stoned. And so now well and so now they're trying to recall all the congressmen and the senators in Montana who voted for the NDAA. Good. Oh, that's good. I like that. And so now a lot of people are saying, well, gee, maybe we did the other states. Do other states have these provisos? I think probably all of all these representatives should be recalled for voting for this thing. Well, Louisiana is going exactly the opposite way.

CHAPTER 33 / 48 Discussion

New Orleans National Guard Deployment and Posse Comitatus

Officials in New Orleans are calling for the National Guard to patrol city streets to combat violent crime, describing the situation as a "war." The hosts argue this is a dangerous step toward the militarization of domestic policing and a violation of the spirit of the Posse Comitatus Act. They express concern that the public is being conditioned to feel "comfortable" with troops on the street.

new orleans· national guard· bobby jindal· posse comitatus· militarization

1:32:40 Oh, the Bobby Jindal state? Yeah, they want troops on the streets. The National Guard, which sounds all nice and stuff, but the National Guard, these are the same guys that get sent over to Iraq and Afghanistan, right? These are fighting people. Did you hear that? This is crazy. He's one of the officials who wants to bring the National Guard just as they did after Hurricane Katrina. Mr. Badal, thank you for coming on. I've read that you said your city's at war, you need the National Guard. At war! Why can't local police do the job? Well, you know, we've done a lot after the storms of 2005, but this is just totally intolerable and it's unacceptable behavior in our city. The local police need help. We've been able to do a lot of different things that are building our city. We're rebuilding our infrastructure. We're building our schools back. We're building

1:33:31 are After the storms of 2005, people are a lot more comfortable by seeing the National Guard on the streets. Listen to all these memes, man. It's war, but it's only a select few people, which apparently the police, the NOPD can't handle. But people are real comfortable when they feel, when they see troops, they feel real comfortable. Streets of New Orleans, and it made the morale higher. think

1:34:30 basis select few daily basis babies to shoot people war no guns National Guard to come in and create order to assist the NOPD with support and also with patrols and help them to take this city back because this is crazy this is this is absolutely crazy I was in New Orleans I didn't see babies getting shot on a daily basis I was there recently too and we visited the 9th Ward and everything. Yeah, Mickey went to the 9th Ward and didn't hear any gunshots. No, I didn't hear, in fact we were very well positioned to hear gunshots, didn't hear anything. Like it's a war, it's a war going on there, it's a war, bring in the troops.

1:35:08 Now that would be considered illegal, wouldn't it, under the posse commentatus? Well, the National Guard is for... National emergencies. Yeah, so you can call a national emergency and bring them in. But I think what they're trying to do, and I think the NDAA is part of this, they just want the military to start walking the streets. I mean, I expect... people out there listening to the show, you should just try to imagine what it would be like in the United States anyway. You see enough policemen on a daily basis compared to anywhere else you've ever been. But just imagine, instead of a cop coming up and down the street once every, you know, every, say, every three or four hours, imagine troops roaming around, young punk troops that, you know, a lot of them are just, you know, trained to shoot whatever they see, and jumpy. I flew, by the way, down from Seattle with some guy who was a Vietnam or a Iraq guy or something, and the guy was jumpy. And so he tried to sleep, and he's sleeping, he's kicking around, he's giving you the elbow.

1:36:05 This is the troops marching. I'm here in New Orleans, John! John, I'm here in New Orleans and, uh, well, we've got, uh, the boots on the ground, but at least- I see hundreds and hundreds and hundreds, John, and, uh, and you know what? No babies being killed now! People are feeling really comfortable! I feel comfortable now! Uuuugh. No, I'm not against the military. I am against the military on our streets. By the way, I have to correct something. That flag that I got that flew over in Afghanistan? Yeah. I said it incorrectly. It is the second 506th Infantry Regime of the 101st Airborne Division.

CHAPTER 34 / 48 Discussion

White House Maintenance Budget and Presidential Compensation

An analysis of HR 2055, the Military Construction and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, reveals the budget for the White House. The hosts are shocked to find that "care, maintenance, and refurnishing" of the executive residence costs over $13.4 million annually. They contrast this $1 million-per-month maintenance bill with the president's $400,000 salary and $50,000 expense allowance.

white house· budget· barack obama· hr 2055· executive residence

1:37:00 Actually very famous. So they're like the band of brothers dudes. Oh, the 101 airborne is very famous Yeah, so I got their flag this like them and the first cavalry or like that. Yeah, that's a very close It's right up there with my CIA piggy bank as a gift. Yeah, that's good. Just keep reminding me Right, and I got a certificate that it flew over the camp. So I'm gonna fly it. I'm gonna fly it here Hey, you know another bill passed Congress and when we weren't looking HR 2055 Because you know now I've got this RSS feed from house.gov which just poops out all this stuff when there's a new bill that gets passed. So this is the... what is this thing? It is the Military Construction Veteran Affairs Related Agencies Appropriations Act. Appropriations Act I think means doling out the dough, right? That would be it, yes. So... Money. Compensation of the President.

1:38:03 How much does the president make in America? I thought it was $250,000 or something like that. How much does he make it now? For compensation of the president, including an expense allowance... Well, the expense allowance is ridiculous. Hold on. The expense allowance is a rate of $50,000 per annum. It costs more than that to fly Air Force One. Doesn't that count in the budget? No. But his total package is $450,000. Okay. But here's what's interesting. For necessary expenses, necessary for the White House as authorized by law, including not to exceed $3,850,000 for services as authorized, which includes hire of passenger motor vehicles, newspapers, periodicals, and travel.

1:38:58 Not to exceed $100,000 to be expended and accounted for. So I think he's doing something weird with the Hawaiian vacation thing. He has a $19,000 official entertainment expense budget for the White House. But here's the one that kind of got me. What do you think it costs to heat and refurnish, well, the refurnishing of course is where the money's going. Anyway, for care, maintenance, repair, alteration, refurnishing, improvement, heating and lighting, including electric power and fixtures of the executive residence at the White House. How much money do you think that should be on an annual basis? For the executive residence, right? This is not the whole White House. It's basically for his nightstand, for the heat. Probably, I would say a couple, maybe $500 a month.

1:39:48 Be realistic. That's what it should be. Right, but I mean care and maintenance, repair. Oh yeah, he's got to have a butler or two. Okay, let's make it $3,000 a month max. This is not for salaries. That's in a different budget. That's in the whole White House. So it's just maintenance like paint? Paint, light bulbs, but of course it does say alteration, refurnishing, and improvement. So maybe this is Michelle's redecorating budget. Okay, I would say $5,000 a month max. It couldn't possibly be higher than that. Per year $13,425,000. Over a million dollars a month? Yes. Yeah. Wow.

CHAPTER 35 / 48 Discussion

Year-End Producer Donations and Personal Grievances

The hosts continue reading listener donations, including a "leet" donation of $133.37 from a wine sommelier in San Antonio. The segment includes various "de-douching" requests and a specific call-out regarding a personal grievance involving a "First Robotics" team and server virtualization. The hosts reiterate that the show is funded entirely by the audience.

donations· leet· karma· de-douching· first robotics

1:40:43 13 and a half... He's got his hand on the pulse of the public. 13 and a half million dollars for light bulbs, paint, and new furniture. You know, Ikea should give him a deal. That just pisses me off. Sorry, I cut you off. What did you say? Did you probably said I forgot so here we go with some some people that gave us some money Mark Fusco Which the fuss goes a character in the persons of interest show which I highly recommend TV show it's about

1:41:30 A guy who invented a, or who was behind the fact that we have all these cameras all over the country and there's actually following everything we do. It's very, very good for the paranoids out there. San Antonio, Texas, 13370 is the neighbor of yours. Right down the road, actually. That's right, San Antonio! You can drive to San Antonio. San Antone! Hour and a half, I'm in San Antone! San Antone! San Antone! Very nice town, by the way. It's beautiful. The Riverwalk, the restaurants, and the bats. We have bats here in Austin, dude. There's a lot of bats in Texas. The bats are... And there's also these little flying things. Austin is famous for the bats. We have a bridge and every day at sunset... A wall of bats comes out. Yes. Have you seen it yet?

1:42:12 Oh man, it's cold. The bats are all sleeping. I'm not flying out. Okay, Mark, you have 13370. So John's reply to the Christmas email scored another leet donation. 1337, get it? Yes, leet. Eventually I'll get my knighthood and be the No Agenda sommelier. I won't ask for karma from me, just karma on earth since it only lasts for a week. I wish the No Agenda family well and look forward to 2012. Let's go out with a bang. Mark Fusco, 1337wine.com. uh... give him a car mashup for them You've got karma. Thank you, San Antonio. Lawrence Yin in New South Wales, Australia, 13333, another crazy number. In the morning, John and Ann, please give a belated 30th shout out to my friend Ying Zhu. Her birthday was on 24th. I dedicate the donation to her Knight Dame Fund. Hope you guys have a great new year and keep cranking out the best podcasts in the universe in 2012. We will.

1:43:13 Mrs. MF Barrow, Barrow and Wooten, Wiltshire. Wooten. Wiltshire, that's where all the crop circles are. Yeah, your favorite place, UK. This is a Christmas present from my husband, Brian Barrow from Wooten Basset, UK. He loves the show and supports your work. What about you, Mrs. Barrow? She's just a way of supporting him by making a donation in his name. Showing him the truth guys what she priority knows. Yeah, well, that's not it's a very that is and the gift that keeps on giving That's very beautiful. We did we actually did something we should have encouraged more. We're idiots She picked it up and at least this is why the curry devour our consulting group is is like broke Doing some consulting we can't even afford our fees for the LLC. Oh

1:44:01 123.21 from anonymous source, I recently found your podcast, it's great, thank you for the, thank you for some of the shows. Yeah, it's a drunk donation, John. Alright. I'm paying up what I can to support the show. I plan on continuing to support the show next year, but the donation amount will be contingent on whether or not the small company I work for survives. Oh boy. Anyway, so he goes on and He read an article that stuck with me. It's called How to Destroy a Bank and It Seemed Plausible, WallstreetOasis.com. Check it out. Anyway, I want to thank him. He's in Albuquerque. Matt Astbury in Wauwatosa, Wisconsin, 11612. I'm donating my 40th birthday date, 11612, which I also hope to be the first day at my new job. Need some karma for that as well as for a gestating slave unit in my wife's womb.

1:44:59 got you've got to gestating gestating slave units gets the karma I got a couple hundred 11 are 11 cent donations from David Murkowski in Jackson Mississippi and Patrick over Oberon in Noosa Ville Queensland Australia also Pat I'm sorry Patrick oh yeah and then per Gustafsson. Ola Gustafsson. Per has been a long time listener. Yeah, he's our guy in Sweden. $111.11 in the morning, happy Christmas. A morning from the guy who prints the wrap paper for the Norwegian Tintine Butter.

1:45:38 Slaving night and day to meet the high demand this of course the butter thing we've talked about time butter is that fake is that? What is time butter? I don't know look it up on the book of knowledge while I continue Frank Rowan parish, Florida $100 and 33 cents donation to bring Paul the book guy elves Alves to his knighthood today. Yes On the list I'm pretty sure we do No, we knighted him before the Christmas show. Oh, okay. Julian Kleiner, Bloomington, Indiana, $100. You guys are great. I'm a student and I've been listening for three years now. How my grandma would love to know I spent my Christmas money on this. I just want to know one sentence I could say to all my liberal 99% friends who complain all the time. Well, just try to get them to listen.

1:46:36 Maybe convert them, it's possible. Phone bill busters, LLC Nashville, Tennessee, $100. Merry Christmas, what a great day. One daughter gave me a government protecting and serving the shit out of you t-shirt from No Agenda Nation. And the other daughter donated $50 to the show toward my 2012 knighthood, which we read, yeah, we got that. This $100 donation is a pittance compared to the value you guys add to my life. Thanks for all you do keep exposing the D bags So hold on a second, so it's not tying its Tina Tina butter. It's a brand oh and apparently they're the ones that Control the whole market. Yes. It's a monopoly butters a monopoly in Norway for some reason huh? Oh

1:47:20 Otherwise, I'd be using French butter. I mean if you can get any butter you wanted. You can't just like import any butter you want? Apparently not. It's like there was a some guys bringing some butter from Sweden and they arrested him. Hey, what you got there slave? Butter. You can't be bringing that in here son. I mean, who's the man that gave me this son? Gareth Jones and Swindon Wiltshire. UK hundred dollars. Great show guys. You need some karma for the new year. Here it comes. You've got karma for those crop circles and again, sir Paul Elvis crops up from Toronto $100 with get most slaves donation to get most slaves night. We hope you guys are keeping track of this money He's a true gentleman. He does a super job with the stream. Give him a karma shot. You've got karma Nick

1:48:16 IZMENDY in Waterford, Michigan $59.99 donating this because that's how much I would have paid for Skyrim or Saints Row the third and I find your media deconstruction more valuable than anti-dragon propaganda and the dildo bat. Anyway... What? I don't know. Anyway, I'd like some karma to de-douching and a birthday call it we don't have it listed but put it on the list Okay, let me add you a de-douching of karma first You've been de-douched you've got karma Nick, so can you put him on the list for the birthday? Nick is Mindy when's his birthday? It's like the 31st so be you know Saturday

1:49:05 Okay, so he but I have to finish his note because he says he liked to call out Christian Orth and Drake Rose as douchebags He says there were a holes in their first robotics team Chris in particular put viruses on our website and maxed out the $50,000 web virtualization server server. Okay, sounds great personal grievances are not part of the show And now we got Scott Thompson in North Tonawanda in New York 5555 this is for a de-douching Justin called me out a few weeks ago from the Shockers radio club two in the air and one over there baby also looking for karma so he needs a de-douching and karma. You've been de-douched. You've got karma. He also wants to throw a shout out to his co-workers who listen Sheldon and Nanook of the North.

CHAPTER 36 / 48 Discussion

US Postal Service Importance and Alaska Shipping Costs

A donor from Alaska highlights the vital importance of the US Postal Service for residents in non-contiguous states. While private carriers like UPS charge $20-$30 for small packages to Alaska, the USPS remains affordable and is often the only way to access "free shipping" promotions from retailers like Amazon. The hosts argue that efforts to shut down the post office are a coordinated scam.

usps· alaska· shipping· amazon· post office

1:50:01 Alrighty, it's getting more vague. Moxie in Grove City, Pennsylvania, 5525 in the morning. John and Adam, happy Christmas. Enjoying the day being a distracted slave while opening presents and munching on cookies and get more north, get more nation Amish. Pennsylvania. Cheers for doing a show on Christmas. Well, it was a clip show. Opportunity won't happen again until 2014. Ah, this is true. We're gonna, on 2014, that Thursday is going to be Christmas, but I'm not gonna do a similar clip show, I can assure you. It's gonna probably... The world will be gone, will be dead, who cares? Oh, that's right. It ends next year. So yeah. 300. I won't even start on one then. Eduardo Sanchez, Hartford, Connecticut, 5510.

1:50:42 Thank you for the entertainment education. I just raised my monthly donation from $5 to 11.11. We encourage everybody to look at their monthlies and make sure they're still happening. And also if you can go to 11.11, we'd appreciate that. Kevin Hartle, Louisville, North Carolina. Double Niggles on the Dime sending you an email. Okay, we'll have to read that on the next show. Sean Rubel in Fraser, Michigan, 55 bucks. Thanks for the hard work each week. I'd like to get some karma for my chiropractic national board scores. And also call up my girlfriend. Okay, do the karma for him and then we get a new spec.

1:51:20 You've got karma. I'd also like to call out my girlfriend Crystal as a douchebag for not donating. Hold on. That's not the way to get laid, my friend. Yes, but she's probably one of the only female African-American listeners. Probably now we have none. Thanks. Thanks, buddy. Thanks, Sean. Yeah, great. Jaden Eaton, Las Vegas, Nevada. You know what? You'd be surprised. I wonder. Do we still have the NA survey up? I wonder how many African American listeners we have. I think we have more than you realize. I would hope so. Yeah, I would hope so. Obama hasn't thrown him in jail. 5150.

1:52:06 Oh, well great. Merry Christmas John and I've been listening since 2008, just before Barry Sotero was elected into office. I finally decided to be a donor, not a boner. Please de-douche me and give me a shot of karma. Give him a double-double with his mom. Oops. You've been de-douched. There you go, mom. You've got karma. Robert Montoya, Pleasant Hill, $50. Marcell. Krenzelik, Krenzelok, I guess. Krenzelik, yeah. Yeah, in Eagle River, Alaska? Is that right? Yeah. I think so, yeah. After, I think, how many Alaskans? Very few.

1:52:48 After watching a rerun of Jon Stewart in the Daily Show talk about how useless the post office is again I decided it was high time for me to become a donor not a boner since you guys seem to be the only ones who get how important the postal service is indeed. Although I do not, this is a scam they're trying to shut it down we've talked about it. Although I do not really send a lot of letters anymore, I do receive dozens of packages a year from purchases made online, especially Amazon. Living in Alaska, shipping is brutally expensive. Small packages, even ones that weigh less than a pound, can cost $20 to $30 via UPS, with the post office being less than $10. In the case with Amazon, as long as you spend $25 or more, it's free.

1:53:24 But only with the post office. Places like Alaska and Hawaii, which 99 times out of 100 are void from free shipping promotions that the rest of the country so enjoys. You know, this is an opportunity. You know, we get us a little seaplane. I can pilot it. You know, and you just put the boxes on and take them off. Yeah, we just throw them over the side. It's like, hey, here it is. Here's your package, man. Noah Jenner style. Charles Jennings Mesa, Arizona $50. Thanks for the great show really changed the way I look at the news every day many of the shows jingles and catchphrases have enriched my household's vocabulary I bet douchebag Little kid I have been a mothership boarding pass program donator for about a year and consider it money well spent today I am requesting karma for my wife my wife charity. She has an upcoming interview for a potentially big promotion She's also a MILF

1:54:19 Send pictures. MILF! That's one mother I'd like to have. You've got karma. Can't wait to hear your kids say that. Yeah. My mama's a MILF. I heard Adam and John say so. John Turata and Pasadena, $50. Merry Christmas, Mofos is his comment. Corey Seldon, Nashville, Tennessee, $50. Catherine Gadega, Gdiga, I think so, and Biesendorf, Deutschland, $50, dear Christian Gdiga, I wish you a happy new year. This is a call to her husband, I guess, and here dedicated to you, your special karma shout out your family. Get my karma there. You've got karma. That was a great gift.

1:55:09 Anonymous in Williamsburg, Virginia, $50. Please stock up on food and prepare yourselves for the social unrest in 2012. Gold, silver, grubs and guns to protect it all. Stock up on life-saving medications. Okay. Like Jack Daniels. That would do it. Mike Bernsten in Bernsten in Bettendorf, Iowa, $50. Paul Vela in Touchester, Northampton, UK, $50. Kiwi Chris in Wellington, New Zealand, $50. John Adams, Little Mike getting by money. I truly hate the over commercialization of Christmas. Who doesn't? Jesus would roll over in his shroud if he knew. So I thought I'd buy you guys a present. Merry Christmas and thanks you guys. And the other no agenda Grinch's have made my life that much better this year. Please put some of that towards a possible New Year's DSC or which we talked about. This is a rerun.

1:56:02 So, we have all of our, that's all of our donations and producers for this show. We want to thank them all. We want to remind everybody the first show of the new year will be Sunday, the next show. So if you want to get in on that, please go to Dvorak.org slash NA channel, Dvorak.com slash NA, noagendanation.com or noagendashow.com and show your support and donating means love. Dvorak.org slash NA Donating is loving. And boarding passes are all sold out by the way. There's no more spots on the mothership. I think we're done. No. Yeah, I think that there's nothing left. No! I'll be waving at you Johnny boy. We sold your seat too. You didn't care so. I didn't care. I'm staying behind. All right. Matthew Asbury says, I went to Dvorak.org slash NA, actually sang the jingle this morning to make a value for value contribution.

CHAPTER 37 / 48 Discussion

The Efficacy of the No Agenda Karma Bell

The hosts discuss the "intrinsic karmic value" of the show's donation model, citing a listener who received a job offer immediately after contributing. They conclude the segment by knighting Ray Jacobson in the "Order of the Dish" for his significant financial support. The hosts reflect on the show's steady growth as they head into 2012.

karma· value-for-value· job offers· knighthood· ray jacobson

1:55:09 Anonymous in Williamsburg, Virginia, $50. Please stock up on food and prepare yourselves for the social unrest in 2012. Gold, silver, grubs and guns to protect it all. Stock up on life-saving medications. Okay. Like Jack Daniels. That would do it. Mike Bernsten in Bernsten in Bettendorf, Iowa, $50. Paul Vela in Touchester, Northampton, UK, $50. Kiwi Chris in Wellington, New Zealand, $50. John Adams, Little Mike getting by money. I truly hate the over commercialization of Christmas. Who doesn't? Jesus would roll over in his shroud if he knew. So I thought I'd buy you guys a present. Merry Christmas and thanks you guys. And the other no agenda Grinch's have made my life that much better this year. Please put some of that towards a possible New Year's DSC or which we talked about. This is a rerun.

1:56:02 So, we have all of our, that's all of our donations and producers for this show. We want to thank them all. We want to remind everybody the first show of the new year will be Sunday, the next show. So if you want to get in on that, please go to Dvorak.org slash NA channel, Dvorak.com slash NA, noagendanation.com or noagendashow.com and show your support and donating means love. Dvorak.org slash NA Donating is loving. And boarding passes are all sold out by the way. There's no more spots on the mothership. I think we're done. No. Yeah, I think that there's nothing left. No! I'll be waving at you Johnny boy. We sold your seat too. You didn't care so. I didn't care. I'm staying behind. All right. Matthew Asbury says, I went to Dvorak.org slash NA, actually sang the jingle this morning to make a value for value contribution.

1:57:00 I asked for karma for a job I'd been interviewing for and for my new slave unit due in May. An hour later, I get the call offering me the job, better pay and time off than I had dared hope for. I still have to counter so that they don't think I'm a pussy, but the initial offer was beyond perfect. As much as I love the Karma Bell, it appears that the very act of transferring value for value has intrinsic karmic value. Now we don't actually, you can't go to noagenthenation.com and find a karma for sale. This is something that just works. And I need to hear more from more people who say it doesn't work because we only have positive feedback on this. We had one. Yeah, in like years. Well, there was one. But that was because it went to the wrong guy. Remember? Yeah.

1:57:55 Yeah, and no more football games. No. Anyway, we highly appreciate all the love that you show on the show. This was a little bit longer segment because we have two programs to thank everybody for. But again, on this Sunday, the next show, the first show of the new year, then we will have only 354 days left until the end of the universe. Can't we congratulate Joya, who will turn 12 tomorrow. Massimo says happy birthday, it's his daughter. Lawrence Yin congratulates his friend Yingzhu, who was celebrated on the 24th. Nick Esmendi celebrates his birthday on Saturday, as does N3PRO, Knight of the No Agenda Roundtable. Happy birthday from all your buddies here at the No Agenda Show.

1:58:48 with a special accompaniment there from John C. Dvorak on the slide whistle. Can you put down the whistle for a second and grab your blade? Yeah, very good. It only went halfway. Pull it all the way out. All right, one nighthood to celebrate the end of the year. Ray Jacobson, please step forward, sir! In fact, we will be calling you, sir, from now on as you have donated to the Noah Jenner Show well in excess of the required $1,000, and you are a special knight. Because you are going to be knighted in the order of the dish. Hereby I pronounce thee Sir Ray Jacobson Knight in the order of the dish of the Noah Jenner Roundtable. Come on over, hookers and blow. Ramp boys chardonnay and hot pants and booze right here for you, my friend. Way to go. Good job. Thank you all very much. And we look forward to another year of the show. We're kind of on a... It goes up and down.

CHAPTER 38 / 48 Discussion

Russian Phobos-Grunt Satellite Re-entry and EMP Speculation

The hosts discuss the impending crash of the failed Russian Phobos-Grunt spacecraft. They question how US Strategic Command (STRATCOM) can pinpoint the re-entry time and location in Afghanistan so precisely when other satellite falls are treated as unpredictable. They speculate the satellite might be used as a cover for an EMP strike or a targeted operation near the Iranian border.

phobos-grunt· russia· stratcom· afghanistan· emp

1:59:50 We're not really growing. We do have new listeners, we always have new donors, and so I think everything is looking good. We're trying to have a pretty good 2012. I see a lot of people, recognizable names coming back, which is great because they keep us going. Yeah, well, we have our patrons, we like to call them, top donors. Yeah, we need more new people. Well, John, very exciting news over the Christmas break in Gitmo Nation lowlands, Gitmo Nation Deutschland, Gitmo Nation, well, a couple of Gitmo Nations. And on Christmas Eve, a curious streaking star. It was caught on tape over Germany, Belgium and France. Some thought it was a comment or even Santa in a sleigh.

2:00:36 Officials say the object is probably a meteorite or a piece of space junk. I like the Santa's sleigh thing, so we'll go with that. Let's check your weather. Here's what's happening outside. Yeah, Robar, let's check your weather. No, it was clearly a UFO, obviously. And it just pisses me off how they just poo-poo that. And you know, like officials, what officials? You can't find any official who spoke on the record whatsoever. They're just making it up. And if it was some space junk, how come not a big deal? How come we know they're not screaming and yelling like the previous space junk? How come? It'd have been Chinese space junk or Russian space junk. You know, it's funny you say that because now how many times have we had like some satellite that that was gonna come down?

2:01:20 But usually they only talk about the big whoppers that are going to come down. Well, so Russia lost control of its Phobos Grunt, which I think is a hilarious name, which was sent on its interplanetary mission November 9th, but it got away from them because of propulsion failure. So this thing is coming back down to Earth. But here's the interesting thing. The U.S. Strategic Command, STRATCOM, has said the spacecraft will enter the atmosphere at 222 a.m. Moscow time and fall somewhere between 30.7 degrees north and 62.3 degrees east in the southwestern Afghanistan region near the city of Mirabad, which I think is very near Iran. How come all of a sudden they can pinpoint exactly what time this thing is coming down where they can't do that for these other huge pieces of junk?

2:02:19 Oh, it'll come down somewhere over there. Oh yeah, the ocean, whatever. No, I, this is a good point that no one's really addressed with NASA at one of these press conferences. How come you can pinpoint the landing of this one? And the other thing is you can pinpoint the landing of a moon mission and land it somewhere. How come you can't pinpoint where it's going to come down? I mean, the calculations are there. You know when it's gonna hit the atmosphere. You know what the what the ratios are for the Resistance the atmospheric pressures a whole thing that the speed is coming in at why can't you say it's gonna land right here? In a crate it's gonna crash right here. Just like you were bringing a rocket back I mean it makes no sense to me that it's so vague should I tell you why coming down next week sometime in the middle of the ocean We hope should I tell you why they know this one so exact I?

2:03:07 Yeah, because it's got some scheme to bomb Iran or it's gonna land on their nuclear facility. Exactly. EMP over Iran. Yeah. Mirabad. You want me to put that in the book? Yeah. Really? Let me see. Map of Mirabad. Let me see. Mirabad. Is that near Iran? It's got to be near Iran. If it's in Pakistan, probably. I think it's... let's see. Let's see. I'm looking at the Google Maps. It's Afghanistan. The border, now it's north of Pakistan. So, you watch, EMP. I'm calling an EMP strike. It's also coincidental, we've had all these solar flares again. They're expecting big solar flares in the next three days which could actually knock out, you know, they always say this and I've seen it happen. I've witnessed it in my own life but it could knock out

CHAPTER 39 / 48 Discussion

USS Kentucky Submarine Collision and "Fired" Terminology

A near-collision between the nuclear submarine USS Kentucky and a cargo ship in the Juan de Fuca Strait is discussed. The hosts find it significant that the commanding officer, Joseph Nosey, was reported as being "fired" rather than "relieved of duty." They suggest this linguistic shift reflects the creeping corporatization and militarization of the country.

uss kentucky· submarine· navy· juan de fuca strait· joseph nosey

2:04:08 satellite transmission and they're expecting a really big one. In fact, where was that? I think I put that in here somewhere. There was a really big solar flare expected and they even have a name for it. I don't think I have it. It's called the Big One. Exactly. It's just the big one. I have a screwball story while you're looking at it. Did you put it in the book? Did you put it in the book? It's in the book. It's highlighted. I brought a smiley face next to it. Okay. Here's a story that came out that Mimi came across. It hasn't been covered at all. There was nearly a crash between a nuclear submarine and a big tanker in the Pacific Northwest in the Juan de Fuca Strait, which would have contaminated the city of Seattle and much of the

2:05:05 Northern Washington if it had happened the guys just missed the Navy Times says that around 8 p.m. A USS Kentucky ballistic missile submarine had its periscope above water But was otherwise hidden below the surface when it turned a new course that was blocked by a cargo ship Are they're going to the underwater base? Well or something that there's no reason for these things to be in American waters submerged But here's what... They're looking at swimmers in bikinis. Hey, look at that chick over there. Well, apparently the guy wasn't even looking through the periscope and nearly rammed the ship. The ship avoided the sub. But here's the interesting thing. Now see if you can pick up on the use of language in this report that made this story interesting to me.

2:05:47 You have to tell me which clip it is, because I can't... There's no clip. I'm reading it. Oh, okay, good. The Navy Times, which filed a request for a report on the incident under the U.S. Freedom of Information Act, wrote that Commander Joseph Nosey, who was serving as commanding officer for the USS Kentucky, was fired on October 19th for inadequate leadership stemming from a number of incidents. Oh. So what's... does anything... you notice anything weird about that sentence? A number of incidents. No, fired. When is a commanding officer not relieved of duty? Or court-martialed or something like that. Court-martialed, relieved of duty. Huh. Fired. Interesting. As if he's working, as if this is a job. He's a consultant.

2:06:29 So we're trying to obviously take the military and we're militarizing the whole country to such an extent that now... You just get fired. You get fired instead of being, you know... That's a good catch. That's a very good catch. I found it very interesting that that wordage was in there. Good on Mimi. And the whole family of yours is getting pretty good. Yeah, they pick up a lot of stuff. They've actually, some of them are more nutty than I am for sure. Enough about Eric. No. Now you listen to this report and tell me what's wrong with this. Well garbage duty like this could become a familiar sight over the next year along the BC coast. City officials in Tofino say debris from the Japanese tsunami is starting to litter their beaches. A large mass has been floating across the Pacific Ocean. It's believed to be the size of California.

CHAPTER 40 / 48 Discussion

Japanese Tsunami Debris Field and Media Animations

The hosts question news reports claiming a debris field from the Japanese tsunami "the size of California" is approaching the North American coast. They point out the lack of actual satellite imagery or photographs, noting that the media relies exclusively on computer animations. They suspect the story is being exaggerated to maintain a sense of public fear.

japan tsunami· debris field· california· satellite imagery· media hype

2:07:16 The province will start working with national and municipal officials next month to prepare for the wave of trash that's expected to hit the coast. Now I know that you've all seen this and what every single news channel shows is the same animation of this debris field the size of California. Now I ask you, If this thing really is the size of California, why can't we get satellite images? Why can't we see it on Google Earth? Why don't they have real pictures of it? Why do they have to keep showing animations of it? The size of California!

2:07:53 Because it's obviously not true. Size of California, how big is California compared to the size of Japan? It's like five times as big. Yeah, so in other words, Japan had more debris than its entire size itself. How does that work? So why are they doing this? How does a country the size of Japan produce a pile of debris the size of California? Explain. I don't know, but tell me why are they only showing the animation? Because it's a lie, clearly. yes but why are they what's what is I don't know I don't know frightening the public or this or the or you were gonna I think there's an association thing going on here to rehab radioactive country it's gonna kill us all now there must be a movie hold on let's see it could be a movie or it could be a from my grab at some time the movie junk from Japan let's see Asian horror movies no no

2:08:48 Somebody, one of our listeners, is a producer. It's gotta be a movie. It's gotta be. Yeah. It's gotta be some horror film about the tsunami and then the junk that comes. It's gotta be a science fiction story. They do keep showing... Sea monsters, they gotta be involved. They do keep showing the tsunami footage over and over again as a part of the story. So they show this animation, which by the way, the Curry Dvorak Consulting Group can get you much better animation. Just give us a call, okay? CurryDvorakConsulting.com And then they show the tsunami footage and you see all those cars floating around and horrible imagery and then they tell you how many people died. Maybe it is a tsunami. Is there a tsunami movie? There's got to be something, John. Come on, this is driving me nuts. Hold on. Tsunami movie. One of our producers actually figured out the mojo meme that that is a promotion for the new Austin Powers movie, which is in the works. Yeah, that was a good catch. Yeah, very good catch.

2:09:46 Tsunami, Tsunami Japan. And you know he's going to say mojo a lot in the movie. Yeah, oh yeah. Tsunami. They've got, it's kind of crazy, they've got a local car dealer here in Austin, he has commercials on television and it's an Austin Powers guy dressed as Austin Powers going like, hey baby we've got the best cars, all the mojo for you. Like how do they get away with that? I love these car, those guys, we don't have those kinds of car commercials anymore in Northern California. Oh yeah, we still, you should see our news Oh my goodness our local news here in Austin it is like it is really C-class. It is so bad. It is really it's cute though. They have you know it's cute puppy news and you know like oh yeah we got an ice skating rink up at the Oasis. We saw a movie of a puppy today. Yeah no they do it they have cute puppy stuff. No it's nice it's kind of. We like to have good news. Positive, upbeat.

CHAPTER 41 / 48 Discussion

Hugo Chavez and the US "Cancer Machine" Claims

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez suggested that the United States may have developed technology to induce cancer in Latin American leaders. This follows cancer diagnoses for Chavez and the President of Argentina. The hosts mock the idea of a "US cancer machine" while noting the bizarre nature of the claim.

hugo chavez· cancer· venezuela· argentina· latin america

2:10:44 Remember, uh, I don't know if you heard this. This is just great. Hugo Chavez, if either one of us ever passes, he can step in. In fact, if I die, just bring him on. Call him Crackpot Chavez. While the man who called former President George W. Bush the devil, now suggesting the United States can cause cancer, Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez said it would not be strange if America developed technology to give somebody the disease. specifically latin leaders he was quick to add he's not accusing the u.s. only reflecting those comments come on the heels of his recent battle with cancer and the recent news that argentina's president also has cancer she is reportedly expected to recover chavez also told other leaders to beware and gave a special shout out to bolivia's president who is a close ally it goes in the red book as far as i'm concerned

2:11:40 A shout out to the Bolivian president next to get cancer from the US cancer machine. Put it in the book. Alright. Put it in the book, come on, put it in the book. I'm putting it in the book now. So I do want to say hi to Kiwi Chris. You're abusing the book. I'm not abusing the book. We have books, so there's more books if you need it. There's more books at noagendanation.com. Oh yeah, there is a blank book if you want to do your own predictions. It does have NA branding on it by the way. It does? It does, yes. Mayorkas moaning that you ruined the book. You said bad things about it. Book sales have tanked! We're now selling one a week! They've tanked! It's all over! Oh no! Did he really say that? Did he really go, you ruined the book sale? Yeah. No, no he did not. Yes!

2:12:33 Like that he called you especially? I was up north I had to listen to him complaining. Directly complaining. You know what's weird about my red book right here? I've just flipped a page after writing this other gratuitous prediction. It's the last page of the book for the last show we do in 2012. Isn't that amazing? Time for a new book so no we need to have we need to revisit everything and there's some carryover though We have to you have to oh yeah, no I'm the book is not going anywhere It's gonna go up on the shelf so don't carry over though They can't don't have to write all the current predictions in the new book no Just to bring the old book and I'm not gonna write him again, so I'm not a bit stuck with paperwork Sorry

CHAPTER 42 / 48 Discussion

Failed 2010 Terrorist Attack Predictions

The hosts revisit a February 2010 clip where intelligence officials, including Leon Panetta and Robert Mueller, stated that a terrorist attack on the US homeland was "certain" within three to six months. Given that no such attack occurred, the hosts use the clip to illustrate the unreliability of government "experts" and their fear-based rhetoric.

leon panetta· robert mueller· dennis blair· terrorism· predictions

2:13:16 I do have one clip that I wanted to mention since I did that clip show. There was one clip I used, I kind of remixed it two or three times, but I used it over and over again. I want to remind people of this clip because I looked it up. This was actually from February 2010 and I want to remind people, we're heading toward February 2012. Two years will be gone, will be passed After hearing this clip where these These a-holes are scaring the public saying that we're gonna have an attack on the homeland now This is a remix you said no. This is the original. What is the likelihood of another terrorist? Attempted attack on the u.s.. Homeland in the next three to six months high or low Director Blair an attempted attack the priority is certain I would say Mr.. Panetta

2:14:07 I would agree with that. Mr. Mueller? Agree. General Burgess? Yes, ma'am. Agree. I mean, I suppose you could call some things an attempt to detect some bonehead, you know, with a... I don't know. There was really no real attack. I mean, there was a couple of lone wolves here and there, to use the coined term. But there's been nothing. There's been nothing. So these are the experts running our country? So this is February 2010, you said? Yeah. Okay, hold on a second. 2010. February 2010.

2:14:55 Hello? Yeah. Okay, well I'm putting it into the evergreen bin so we can pull that out from time to time. Yeah, might as well. And just say, how's that attack going? So these are the experts, our great leaders, our fearless leaders, and this is the prediction that they had. It was absolutely certain. Wow. And then a bunch of, you know, agree, agree, agree guys. That's pretty harsh, isn't it? That was my pet peeve of the day. Oh, well, I should give you a little... Sorry about that. You seem like a pet peeve. Hey, there's a couple new guys. There's something new going on, which I only noticed after... I didn't even know this website existed after I saw the press conference, because of course part of what we do on

CHAPTER 43 / 48 Discussion

Rewards for Justice Program and State Department Branding

The State Department's "Rewards for Justice" program is analyzed after it offered $10 million for information on Al-Qaeda financier Yasin al-Suri. The hosts discover the program uses a .net website and is linked to a suspicious NGO. They also note the presence of a Star of David in the program's logo and the Great Seal of the United States, leading to a discussion on hidden symbolism.

rewards for justice· state department· yasin al-suri· terrorism· star of david

2:15:42 I watch C-SPAN, but I also watch all of the new videos at Lucifer's website, which is the state.gov. And there's this thing called Rewards for Justice, which I'd never heard of, but it came up in this press conference and it's a very interesting website. Today, the U.S. Department of State's Rewards for Justice program is offering a reward of up to $10 million for information that leads law enforcement or security forces to the person pictured behind me, Zaidine Abdelaziz Khalil, better known as Yasin al-Suri. Today's announcement marks the first time that the Rewards for Justice program has offered a reward for information that leads to a terrorist financier.

2:16:29 Under an agreement between al-Qaida and the Government of Iran, Yassin al-Suri has helped move money and recruits through Iran to al-Qaida leaders in neighboring countries in the region. From his sanctuary inside Iran, he has moved terrorist recruits through Iran to al-Qaida leaders in Pakistan and in Afghanistan. He has also arranged for the release of al-Qaida operatives from Iranian prisons and their transfer to Pakistan. And he has funneled significant amounts of money through Iran to Al Qaeda's leadership in Afghanistan and Iraq. He is a dedicated terrorist working in support of Al Qaeda with the support of the government of Iran, which the Department of State has designated a state sponsor of terrorism.

2:17:12 As a key fundraiser for the Al Qaeda terrorist network, he is a continuing danger to the interest of the United States, to its facility and its citizens. Locating al-Suri and shutting down his operations would eliminate a significant financial resource for al-Qaeda. For that reason, we urge anyone with information on the whereabouts of al-Suri to contact the Rewards for Justice Program, a U.S. embassy or U.S. consulate, or a U.S. military commander immediately. You may contact Rewards for Justice by visiting the RFJ website at www.rewardsforjustice.net. There you may submit a tip anonymously. Okay, a couple of things can immediately come to mind. Yeah. Why is it a .net site?

2:17:59 Well, they also have .org which forwards to .net. So I'm not sure. Is this the government site? Why isn't it .gov? .gov, I know. It's a... well, it's a fine... Have you looked at it? Have you looked at the... I'm looking at it now. There's a bunch of guys, up to, they always say up to, which means you'll never get the full award. But they have all these creeps that are like being shown one after another. So flash animation. I'd recommend people look at the site, Rewards for Justice.net. This is an NGO. It's an NGO and that's why they're at the State Department. So the rewards for justice fund is a non-governmental nonprofit charitable organization whose sole affiliation with the US Department of State's rewards for justice program is for the purpose of raising and providing private contributions for its use in the identification and apprehension of terrorists operating within the United States and abroad. So what I think this is is basically if some guy screws you on your arms deal,

2:18:55 You just say, you know, let's put some money into the kitty here and go shoot that guy for me. This is a professional, this is, you know, you can give some guy 50 bucks on the street to go kill somebody or you can give Lucifer Clinton 10 million bucks to go kill him for you. This is ridiculous. Well, there's something screwy about it and I wonder... Look at all this, up to 5 million. If you go to the one, if you go to Wonderful Terrorism where wars are often, you get to look at all these guys at once. With Al Zerari being the top guy. Up to 25 million dollar reward. That's up to 25 million. Hey, hey, at the top, see that submit a tip? Let's click on that. You can submit information anonymously. Why would you want to do that with this kind of money involved? Enter text here. I think I saw him in Port Angeles.

2:19:52 He's up there somewhere. Look at all that. And how come this guy's name is known as Yasi Al Suri? And well, wait a minute. What about this poor bastard at the bottom of the list? Cajir Mundos. He's got like, he's the low man. He gets no money. Why does this poor guy get down to $500,000? Yeah, hey, this is like the top 20. At the bottom of the chart this week we've got Cajirmundos with only $500,000 reward. A key leader in finance here. The Philippines-based Abu Sayyaf Group. What is that? Is that a Philippines terrorist group? Are they affiliated? Yeah, they're affiliates. Let me see. Abu Sayyaf. Let's see.

2:20:34 One of several military Islamist separatist groups based in and around the southern Philippines. Oh, really? Because it's the Philippines. It's not... It's hiding in southern Mindanao, they think. Okay, so here's the question I have I think we need to look into. That guy has a bad picture. Yeah, well, he's not photogenic, let's put it that way. So here's my question about this. What money? Oh wait here, hold it narrow. It's actually on here's a list. Let me check it out They paid more than a hundred million dollars to 60 people who provided information. Okay. Well, so what is this? how come all of a sudden takes a money and the and that has a big presidential or the part it has like our eagle with the arrows and stuff and the

2:21:23 Wow, that's a crazy ass emblem they got there. With a Jewish star in the middle. Yeah, is that normal? It's the Star of David. That is a Star of David. I have no idea what the Star of David is doing on there. This is a suspect website. I'm glad you brought it up. I don't know what we can discover about it, but it seems suspect for a lot of different reasons. But they've got like war crimes. This whole thing is like, to me, I don't know about these guys, they just put his picture up and say, yeah, 10 million bucks, and this non-profit NGO has said, hey, we need this guy. That to me is highly suspect. This guy born in 1982, so he's what, 32? 40, 80, 90, 30, 30. Weapons of mass destruction, terrorism.

2:22:27 So here's a classic example. This guy convicted, they've caught and convicted Totenkraft Hanno. I'm looking at the ones that they actually gave money out for. He was a, so they caught the guy, they convicted him, threw him in jail and the reward was $100,000. How does that work? He was like a low number. He must have been a new entry. He didn't have a bullet on the chart yet. The lowest on the list is $500,000. Abu Sabaya claimed he had Guillermo Sobero executed as a birthday present for Philippines President Gloria Macaroyo. On October 7, 2001, a human skull was recovered, which was found to be that of Guillermo. Who makes this stuff up?

2:23:11 This is a- And they're also taking credit for the Uday Hussein and Qusay Hussein weren't brought to justice. There was no reward meted out. It was the army that shot these two guys. Wait, but does it say they paid some money to somebody? No, they didn't. But I mean, why is it on the list at all? I love the big X on the picture, deceased. Well, they got one, Ramzi Ahmed Yousef. He's off the chart. This is just crazy. Yeah, this is something. We gotta find out about this NGO. Yeah. Hold on a second. Who's registered this? Hold on. Who is rewardsforjustice.net? Let's see. Let's see. So it's an NGO, but it uses state.org. DS state.org. So it has network solutions. Is it private? No, it's private of course. Wait, no, no, no. Here it is.

2:24:14 Yeah, Nicole Pearl at State.gov, Department of State. It's run by the Department of State. How does that work? How does that work as an NGO? That's not an NGO. It's not an NGO, non-government organization. This is a government organization posing as an NGO. When does that begin? And the, oh this is even better, Rewardsforjustice.org is registered to Keyword Acquisitions Inc. Massachusetts well if you go to rewards for justice org the site is now a it's it's a Parker no I got a forward I didn't get a forward I got it right now I got the same I got the same you got a Parker site right Oh rewards fund org I'm sorry rewards fund org I see who that who owns that who is rewards

2:25:18 Fund org that forwards. Okay, you're right that forward. So that's the one that and that is ownership Timothy s case rewards for justice fund in Norwalk, Connecticut This whole thing is this is very sketchy And why do they get press conference time at the Department of State because it's the Department of State. No Anyway, I thought that was no address They have an 800 number, they have a... and the email address is rfj at state dot gov. Yeah, it's not an NGO. And what, okay, so now we know it's not an NGO, we know it's run by the State Department, why is there a Star of David on the logo? Is that typical? I don't know, we have to now look at the State Department logo. Ah, boy.

2:26:10 Let's take a look at the nice catch here. It's just to make the show go. Yeah. Yeah, the star of David is also in the state.gov. Oh, it is. Okay. Well, there's not a is that in the presidential seal as well? No, I don't think so. Wow. This is why is that by the way? I don't know. I never noticed it before. Never noticed it either. Let's talk if you look at it, you have to really it's hard to see it. It's easier to see on this other one. It normally just looks like I don't know what it looks like. Hold on. Let me take a look at the let me take a look at the presidential seal. Let's see. pre-presidential seal of the USA. No, it doesn't have that. Oh wait. Oh interesting. If you look at the the great seal, it has kind of a Star of David obfuscated by round thingies around it. Well, there's a couple versions of this. Well, look at the pull a dollar out of your pocket. You'll see it right there. Why is that? I've never noticed that before.

CHAPTER 44 / 48 Discussion

NATO Cyber Warfare Exercises and Stratfor Hack

NATO conducted a large-scale cyber warfare exercise involving 29 nations to test defenses against energy sector threats and malicious code. The hosts link this exercise to the recent hack of the Stratfor security consulting group, suggesting these events are often coordinated to justify increased internet regulation and security spending.

nato· cyber warfare· stratfor· hacking· belgium

2:27:17 We're on to something. We've discovered hidden messages on our money! Oh no! We should do a movie about it. Yeah, that's a good idea. Oh boy. Anyway, NATO, just to wind it up with the stuff I got for you, NATO held an exercise A cyber warfare exercise over the holidays. The scenario was drawn up by NATO as part of a new cyber coalition exercise. The alliance has been holding this exercise since 2008 and opened it to the nations in 2009. The aim, to test national cooperation on cyber defense. During the exercise, information about the crisis is sent from here to the SHAPE military headquarters in Belgium. Those taking part have to react from their countries.

2:28:10 23 NATO nations and six partners are involved in the exercise. Some are players. The light blue countries on the map. Others are contributors or observers. These 29 countries are online for long periods over the three days. New Zealand and Australia are taking part this year. Players must deal with various geopolitical computer crisis scenarios, like the threat to the energy sector. Viruses and general malicious code must be countered. Of course the scenarios are invented and the threats are not real. We've seen similar attacks in the wild, so in real world. So everything we created here, it's not fictive. Well, it is actually fictive, but it could happen. He misspoke. These are the techno experts at work. And this all comes right on time for the Stratfor so-called break-in. We all heard about that, right? Yep.

CHAPTER 45 / 48 Discussion

McAfee 2012 Cyber Threat Predictions

Security firm McAfee released its predictions for 2012, warning of "cyber war," increased "hacktivism" from groups like Anonymous, and attacks on virtual currency systems. The hosts dismiss the report as a marketing tactic for security software, noting that the term "cyber war" is often used loosely to describe low-level website defacement.

mcafee· cyber war· hacktivism· anonymous· botnets

2:29:12 where this, you know, what is it, security consulting group got hacked. But also right in time for McAfee's report. End of predictions for 2012 from McAfee. Have you read the document, John? I don't read these sorts of things. I mean, I write about people who are actually qualified to make predictions, namely brain-dead journalists. So when a company makes predictions, it's always a prediction about one of their products doing well. Would you like to hear their predictions for 2012? I might as well. Industrial threats will mature and segment. Not sure what that means. Embedded hardware attacks will widen and deepen.

2:30:01 Hacktivism, which is a new term on the on the scene, hacktivism and anonymous will reboot and evolve. That's funny actually. Yeah. Because I heard this word this hacktivism that's gonna be a big one. Virtual currency systems will experience broader and more frequent attacks. This will be the year for not of cyber war. DNSSEC, that's the secure DNS system, will drive new network threat vectors. Traditional spam will go legit, while spear phishing will evolve into the targeted messaging attack. Mobile botnets and rootkits will mature and converge. Rogue certificates and rogue certificate authorities will undermine users' confidence.

2:30:59 Advances in operating systems and security will drive next-generation botnets and rootkits. And they wind it up with, the stage is set, so let's move on to the specifics! Exclamation mark. This is a serious company. These guys are probably distributing all this crap themselves. You know, by the way, since you brought it up about the virtual money system, what happened to, apparently, Bitcoin folds, right? They actually... What happened to all the money? Where would we be today if we had just done what a few of our producers suggested curiously and gone with a Bitcoin idea? Yeah, we would have been in the poorhouse. Yeah, minimally.

2:31:45 This will be the year of cyber war, they contradict themselves instead of saying for cyber war, or merely a showcase of offensive cyber weapons and their potential. While we certainly hope it's only the latter, the situation's growth during recent years makes an eventual cyber war nearly inevitable. We have frequently seen cyber techniques, complemented traditional methods of intelligence or espionage, apparitions, with many players accusing others, friends and foes alike, like it's a very cheap way of spying, always leaves room for plausible deniability, doesn't endanger human lives, and most importantly, seems to be highly effective. What we haven't seen much is the use of cyber as part of the arsenal in an armed conflict.

2:32:27 So far this has been witnessed only on a small scale with very limited sophistication of the attacks, for example in the Georgia conflict. Now that caught my eye. Yeah, I bet. What was the cyber thing in the Georgia conflict? Well, we talked about it extensively and we also noticed the website was too professional for what they were doing and there was something going on there. I guess there was probably some elements we didn't know about. Maybe somebody, a Georgia listener can clue us as to what was going on. They probably were cutting off connectivity or who knows and who was doing it? It must have been the Russians.

2:33:04 Well, what I found here from the Telegraph is Russia has been accused of attacking Georgian government websites in a cyber war to accompany their military bombardment. I'm bringing down your website. This is so dumb. I'm bringing down your website. Meanwhile, back in the United States... No, don't bring down my website! No, that's a web... People won't be able to find out my bio. Don't do that! Don't scrub- Hey man, we're gonna scrub your wiki page. It won't know where my four squares checked in is, I won't get my badge, I won't get my emblem. I won't get my Georgia Secretary of State emblem. Joe Lieberman, chair of the Senate Homeland Security Committee, says, uh, we need Twitter to block Taliban accounts. Specifically,

CHAPTER 46 / 48 Discussion

Joe Lieberman and Taliban Twitter Accounts

Senator Joe Lieberman called for Twitter to block accounts associated with the Taliban. The hosts argue that these accounts, which report on civilian casualties from drone strikes, are likely "honeypots" used by intelligence agencies to track sympathizers. They note that Lieberman's public outcry only served to increase the accounts' follower counts.

joe lieberman· twitter· taliban· censorship· honeypot

2:34:03 A-B-L-K-H-I, Ah-Bulky, N-Alamaroweb. Wow. Because they have 4,000 followers each. Wow! How about that? That's got to be a honeypot. Hold on a second. What is that Taliban website saying? Taliban Twitter account. It's a total honeypot. Let's see what the only reason that Lieberman would say anything about it is to draw attention to it, right? Yeah, of course. So this is Abdullah. We only got 4,000 guys. What can we do to get some numbers up on this stupid site? Oh, I have an idea. Lieberman go out there and bitch about it. Say it's terrible. It's just a bunch of evil doers and that will get some attention. So this is Abdullah Khahar Balkhi.

2:34:57 from the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan and let's see what is an hour ago he tweeted uh-oh you should have at least tied proper turbans to those legit Taliban then maybe a better future would have awaited you let's see what yeah this is his latest tweet two civilians martyred in enemy bombings IEDs leave four US tanks wrecked Father and three sons martyred by airstrikes. Oh, he's actually reporting on drones and people getting killed. Oh, that's why he wants it blocked Unbelievable the guy has a website too. Yeah, and since this this ban he's gone up to forty three hundred and fifty four Followers, that's the power of the press He has a website alamaro one.com

2:35:47 Four puppets injured in clash in northern Parwan. Alright, so that's lame. How about this other guy? Who's this? Alomarweb. This is great. Yeah, we got- Twitter should be blocking that. You know, if that stops- if that starts, then, you know, that's the end of it. Then it's like, eh, you know, that curry, man, that, uh, block all that. Mostafa Ahmedi. Landmine blast kills three. US invades in Paktika. So basically these guys are report- if it's true, They're just reporting from they keep talking about puppets. Puppet killed in attack on patrol. What's this puppet thing? I don't know. It'd be funny if you went down to the attack site and you found a bunch of like puppets, marionettes. Oh, puppet. Mujahideen of Islamic Emirate from Northern Fire Province says they killed a puppet hireling and... Okay, so these are they're basically blowing the lid on the whole idea that these are all

CHAPTER 47 / 48 Discussion

Jerome Powell Nomination to the Federal Reserve

President Obama nominated Jerome Powell to the Federal Reserve Board of Governors. The hosts highlight Powell's background as a former partner at the Carlyle Group and a Treasury official under George H.W. Bush. They view the appointment as further evidence of the "revolving door" between private equity, the Fed, and the executive branch.

jerome powell· federal reserve· carlyle group· george h.w. bush· barack obama

2:36:48 You know, CIA guys and stuff, and the shills. Sure. Okay. Alright, Lieberman, good job. Hey! Tell me how Twitter responds. Twitter, of course, had no comment. We don't comment on these matters. We don't comment on this. Speaking of puppets... Shadow Puppet Theater! Jerome Powell is the latest to be nominated to the Federal Reserve Board of Governors. Let's find out about Jerome Powell, shall we? He was the Undersecretary for Finance under President George H. Walker Bush and was a partner of the Carlyle Group. Yeah, that's the guy we want on the Federal Reserve Board, isn't it? Yeah, that way he can converse with the rest of the members. They can go to the same clubs to go drinking. And he fits right in, I think so. You don't want some guy causing trouble. No, we want a guy... That's Obama's pick, by the way.

CHAPTER 48 / 48 Discussion

Outro and Interview with Sir Jordan of Invercargill

The episode concludes with an interview by Maynard featuring Sir Jordan of Invercargill, New Zealand's "most southern listener." They discuss the "vegan agenda" and the presence of a low-level HAARP research facility in the South Island. The hosts sign off, reminding listeners of the upcoming first show of 2012.

maynard· new zealand· vegan· haarp· invercargill

2:37:50 Yeah, but figures. Anyway tons of stuff in the show notes at 369 or dot na show notes calm Go check it out a couple after-show clips. Yeah, well we have One yeah, they're gonna play the black guy in the car the driver. Oh, I didn't I have I have I Like a medley? Why don't you play it on the first of the year show, I think that would be appropriate. Because that will be right before the Iowa caucus. Yeah, good, we'll do that. Play the medley. So we have Sir Jordan of Invercargill, New Zealand, interviewed by our buddy Maynard, who does mention the fact that there is a harp array being set up in New Zealand, which of course is the cause of the earthquakes, the so-called aftershocks.

2:38:39 which uh... kiwi chris is witnessing part of the body have a very happy end of two thousand eleven and we will talk to you on the first show of the new year on the first day of two thousand twelve we have three hundred fifty four days left until the end of the year coming to you from camo for here in austin texas in the morning my name's adam curry and from northern silicon valley was really nice out today and uh... Yes, I want everyone to have a nice New Year's celebration and we'll see you all on Sunday. I'm John C. Dvorak and we'll talk to you again Sunday right here on NO Agenda. NO Agenda listeners, we've got a pretty special thing for you now. I think this is the most southern listener you have to NO Agenda. Sir Jordan of Invercargill, which is not a Scottish thing. Vegan in residence, yes. They love their meat on NO Agenda. Oh yes, yes, especially that Dvorak and he's always talking about, I killed this or got this killed or got that killed.

2:39:33 I thought it would be fun to get involved with No Agenda, I love it for a different point of view. I found out through Dvorak and through Twit this week in tech and I learnt more about Adam the crackpot and that was cool. How has your life changed since you became a knight? It's definitely got me a lot more internet points and a lot more respect from friends that listen around the world. I've got friends in Scotland, Donny and Lorraine and Russ in the UK and they call me Sir now. Sir Jordan hasn't opened doors that were previously closed to you? Yeah, I'm not quite a member of the Bilderbergers or the Reptilians or the Freemasons but that's always something to aim for.

2:40:08 I like the news about the drones and the technology and just the general war news in general. And I think, oh, what have we got ourselves into now with the latest war? So... Being the vegan in residence, does that mean you're pushing the tofu agenda? The tofu agenda, that's a good one. Well, I thought, sure, yes, it's good. We have the no agenda roundtable and I thought, It's good that there's at least one other vegan night I know of, so I won't be alone at the no agenda rounded rectangle table for vegans. Have your own like cutlery as well? Oh sure, you don't want cross contamination, no. I just thought it would be fun to be a vegan night and I was knighted on episode 333, the magic number, so I also, the self-proclaimed magic knight. tripped you over the edge into knighthood.

2:40:59 I sort of figured that the average listener is very different to myself. I imagine a lot of Confederate flags and a copy of the Constitution in their wallet, guns all around the house, and driving some American-made monstrosity, getting five inches to the Freedom Unit. And being an Australian and a New Zealander, we don't have that gun culture, and it's kind of strange to us, isn't it? That's kind of terrifying to be honest. It's a bit weird this talk with the judge, this, what is it, like a revolver that shoots shotgun shells? It basically fires shotgun shells. It sounds like a really efficient handgun. I saw the picture of it and it looks like a hell of a thing to own. I've turned people onto it here. I visited the Occupy Embacago, our brave occupiers in support of the Wall Street lot. I went down there and started telling them about the drone-free zone. I encouraged them to put a sign up at Occupy Embacago saying this is a drone-free zone.

2:41:46 There's quite a few listeners in the Occupy Invercargill movement that now listen to No Agenda. And I remember from speaking to a scientist here at the University of Newcastle in New South Wales that there is a low-level HAARP research facility in the South Island there somewhere, isn't there? There is something about the square kilometre array, something like that. Yeah, it's quite a small one but it points south. Yes, it's very close to where I live. They're upgrading it or something like that and yeah, maybe it is part of HAARP, who knows. I'm still working on better ways to get it out there, promoting the formula, spreading the formula. You are to be praised for propagating the formula in the most southern listener of NO Agenda, unless there's someone like down the bottom of Chile or something. Yeah, I was thinking about that. I always think, I'm always proud to say, you know, at the bottom of the world but then I sort of realize, yeah, that damn South America.

2:42:36 And happy holidays to you, Sir Jordan. Happy New Year's to you too. What is the likelihood of another terrorist attempted attack on the US homeland in the next three to six months? High or low? Director Blair? An attempted attack, the priority is certain, I would say. Mr. Panetta? I would agree with that. Mr. Mueller? Agree. General Burgess? Yes, ma'am. Agree. Adios, mofo.