Episode 323 · Thursday, 21 July 2011

CIA vs MI6

Intelligence agency infighting spills into the public record as the UK phone hacking scandal reveals deeper ties between the Murdoch empire and global espionage networks.

By The No Agenda Show | 2h 29m listen | 46 chapters
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The No Agenda Show · No. 323

About this episode

The UK phone hacking scandal involving News International and Piers Morgan is a proxy war between MI6, the CIA, and the FBI. Prime Minister David Cameron faces intense scrutiny in Parliament over his ties to Andy Coulson and the BSkyB bid as whistleblowers George Webley and Sean Hoare are found dead under suspicious circumstances. The Bureau of Investigative Journalism, allegedly funded by intelligence-linked David Potter, releases a report on US drone casualties in Pakistan that directly challenges Pentagon narratives.

Global tensions escalate as a massive explosion at a Cypriot army base destroys the island's power grid, revealing a struggle for oil interests between Russia and Turkey. In the United States, President Obama nominates Richard Cordray to lead the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau while the military navigates the repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell. Scientific integrity is questioned as CERN researchers are reportedly instructed to suppress cosmic ray data that conflicts with established climate models, and Harvard psychologist Marc Hauser resigns amid a data falsification scandal.

Adam Curry reports live from a campground in Mount Pleasant, South Carolina, while navigating the technical hurdles of the Hot Pockets 2008 RV tour. John C. Dvorak breaks out a physical train whistle to celebrate the producer community as they analyze the Japanese Women's World Cup victory as a rigged morale boost for the post-Fukushima economy. The duo explores the Biltmore Estate and mocks the irony of its forty-three inaccessible bathrooms.


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CHAPTER 01 / 46 Discussion

No Agenda Episode 323, Reporting from South Carolina

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 323 of the No Agenda show on July 21, 2011. Curry reports live from a campground in Mount Pleasant, South Carolina, while Dvorak joins from Northern Silicon Valley. The hosts greet the audience and the live chat room participants at noagendastream.com.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· gitmo nation· south carolina· mount pleasant

00:01 Adam Curry, John C. DeVora It's Thursday July 21st 2011 time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode 323 This is no agenda Reporting from the front lines of Gitmo Nation From the 4 Winds 5000 Crackpot Command Center Gitmo Nation Smiling faces beautiful places it's The Great State Of South Carolina In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I have none of those things to say... ...I'm John C. DeVore. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning! Heh heh. In the mornin' to ya, John.

00:39 In the morning to you, Mr. Curry and all ships at sea feet on the ground boots in the air and I don't know what else there's gotta be another line Ankles in the stirrups And of course in the morning to all human resources in chat room now noagenda stream dot com Noagendachat dot net obviously charged up ready to go exactly how your government loves them and live in the American dream just getting by everybody so i'm the only are in uh... south carolina we are at the kato a campground of mount pleasant right near our charleston yeah which and did you know by the end of charleston to go to charleston now we're going to go to charleston after the show after we upload everything were actually gonna strike camp and we're going to do it died when he went to charleston well where it worked for all intents and purposes working charleston but do you mean from heat

CHAPTER 02 / 46 Discussion

Hot Pockets 2008 Tour, Mobile Connectivity Challenges

Curry provides an update on the technical logistics of the "Hot Pockets 2008 Tour" while traveling in an RV. He describes managing multiple 3G networks including AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile to maintain a broadcast signal despite campground Wi-Fi issues. The discussion covers the difficulties of jailbreaking iPhones for tethering and Verizon's restrictive bandwidth policies.

3g connection· at&t· verizon· t-mobile· wireless tethering

01:36 No, I mean well there's that. It is just one of the prettiest towns in the world Oh yeah Well it's 116 degrees today and so everything i always said about global warming...I take it back! It's here. It's in the south. It's unbelievable So let me give you a little update on The Hot Pocket 2008 Tour By the way, can I say something first? It's always hot in the south. I don't think this is anything new Yeah Well, you know it's kind of like a heat wave that got going on and people are all complaining about it and talking about it They're always complaining down there So, first of all we are on a 3G connection. I have three networks that are brought with me AT&T Verizon and T-Mobile even though the campground does have Wi-Fi. I tested it all last night. I tested it this morning and I can literally see ICOMP so packets are being dropped. I think one of the RVers is torrenting wife swapping porn or something

02:36 and uh... it's is literally breaking the connection which i don't understand how that works meanwhile would just break his dropout now you decide to be really sucks the bits right out of the air dot com back i wonder if it's like a clash of wifi or something but anyway so he'll knock on wood um... the best network here is eighteen t f got four bars and uh... i did some testing to san francisco again about uh... megabit in half download in about seven hundred kilobits upload So, uh that seems sufficient. I had two bars on the Verizon 3G and about one bar on T-Mobile so um...

03:18 This accounts for the fact that a lot of people can't understand why everyone in the San Francisco Bay Area, which is notorious for Apple users, is constantly complaining about AT&T and everyone saying what? I don't know. I have no problem Yeah it's just the bay area or maybe you know they use their mobile network I don't know but T-Mobile actually does quite well on the south but there are some spots where we just get absolutely nothing But anyway, so we are in the... How do you switch between networks? What's the deal? Oh! So what I have wireless tethering on all of them. So if something should happen then i just have to switch networks. So I can just switch it. I've three phones

03:58 I've got the AT&T iPhone jailbroken which is tethering. I've got the T-Mobile that lets you do tethering without anything and Verizon by the way, when you tether that... Oh man! You gotta through all these loops because of course they just started their non unlimited bandwidth thing. You have to call them up and then all sudden all these sites are not working because oh it could have porn. So you have to call them again and have that removed All for your protection. And all for your, uh... It's all for your security! Verizon may actually be worse than AT&T I think so. Anyway let me give you a little update John as to what has happened Last we spoke we were in Virginia We were still in Baroness Maggie Vincent of Virginia's driveway Who of course has graciously offered us her RV Which is holding together quite nicely We're very happy and everything is working beautifully

CHAPTER 03 / 46 Discussion

Meeting Jimmy from Free Hollow Books, Virginia

The tour stopped in Salem, Virginia, to meet with Jimmy from Free Hollow Books, who provided the crew with homegrown produce. Curry notes that many listeners work for government agencies or organizations with high-level security clearances. These individuals reportedly use the show as a psychological release from their professional roles within "evil organizations."

jimmy· free hollow books· salem· virginia· security clearances

04:58 uh... was it uh... on monday we have started driving south i want to get some north carolina and we actually has stopped off in salem virginia and had lunch with jimmy from free hollow books dot com which is great you know the book yeah we did that we got kid that kids days in the picture going yet and he's um... time signed about twenty of his books uh... so that you know did to raise the price he's like this works really well you sign them all some of our more money and then we get me give more to show my alright so free all books are comes great to meet it looks nothing like i imagined he looked like you imagine like kind of like a hippie kinda got memory send me tobacco and all those great stuff in these growing himself and um... and when they give us now when the key gave us a chili peppers chili peppers tomatoes from his own garden the guy who is what looks like he's so collegiate

05:58 You know he's all buff and pumped, he's got a you know like kind of like almost like a military haircut. I'm like wait a minute! Yeah yeah yeah... He's in Virginia? He's obviously in the agency? No well he's not.. he's not-I know what he does but I'm not allowed to say And it's- That is why I said! It's actually worse than that but I'm not allowed to say and when I've discovered is that here's what a large portion of our audience is. They actually work in all these evil organizations that we harp on every single show and it's like a release for them, they're like oh finally someone you know I can share my feelings. Someone notices! Yeah someone notices that were actually horrible evildoers and he works for real evil company but

06:41 it's that's really what it is all those cats up in virginia who all work you have security clearances and stuff and work on all kinds of crazy programs night apps i cannot talk about it on the show because they would put them in danger at least of losing their job but who knows what else uh... so until it also gives me great hope does this not listen to your off yet had been yeah like a hank paulson It gives me great hope because if we ever need to really sound the alarm, you know have the bat signal go these guys could all mess up a lot of stuff. Get us out of jail!

CHAPTER 04 / 46 Discussion

Asheville Meetup, Stewart Green's Trailer Park

Curry describes visiting Stewart Green's well-maintained trailer park in North Carolina before attending a last-minute meetup in Asheville. The event was attended by various producers, including Lauren Clawhammer. The hosts remark on the hospitality of the local community and the scenic drive through the region.

stewart green· asheville· north carolina· trailer park· meetup

07:19 So let me see, so we had lunch at a great place called the Blue Apron in Salem which is just beautiful. Beautiful restaurant I had a skirt steak that would not stop. It was so good cooking here's great uh... then we have continued down south to uh... and north carolina and that we pulled up to steward greens house now stewart runs a trailer park i really nice trailer park i have to say well i don't know hundreds of units in that's all beautiful manicured lawns are always referred to living there totally rent is two hundred fifty bucks a month as perfect

08:03 uh... great drive really nice and he's a beautiful beautiful guy uh... beautiful wife lovely child and you'd organize the north carolina ashville meetup and that was cool it was kinda last minute so i think we had to attend bills yet with actually uh... lauren claw hammer uh... you can see your pictures on the uh... on mickey's off your face booker site She came in, she's a producer and as she walked right in she says hey is this where the lesbian meetup has taken place? Yeah come on in baby.

CHAPTER 05 / 46 Discussion

Producer Donations, Satellite Internet Limitations

Curry acknowledges donations from producers Ciro Picirio and Glenn Woodfin, the latter of whom provided silver dollars. A listener named Jerry shared his struggles with satellite internet in the mountains, which is limited to 400 megabytes per day. This limitation forces him to be selective about which podcast episodes he can download.

ciro picirio· glenn woodfin· silver dollars· satellite internet· bandwidth caps

08:43 So we had, let me see... I have to thank a couple people. Some Hot Pockets producers. Ciro Picirio, I think is how I pronounce it, he gave us $100 gas money that's highly appreciated. Glenn Woodfin gave us four silver dollars uh... which you know will be very valuable soon seems like gold and silver is doing quite well thank you very much it was it was cool in the again some people came in from the mountains um... as one guy jerry who is a think he's a actually beats u yeti i think almost seventy

09:22 and he came down from the mountains, had a hotel with his wife. He's like I only got satellite internet up there and they limit him to 400 megabytes per day so he has to choose what shows he downloads which is horrible. Off of satellite? Yeah! They limit him 400 megs Can you believe that? It would be like unlimited bandwidth off a satellite yeah we should but it's not what he gets Then, uh... so we were pretty tired after that and we had the- what was the name of that place? The Yacht Club right. Some crazy ass metal biker guy who's a bass player owns it and he really took good care of us We missed you John! I'll tell ya at that table there 95% percent of all producers got turned on to show because your appearances on Twit

CHAPTER 06 / 46 Discussion

Biltmore Estate Visit, Anderson Cooper Irony

The tour visited the Biltmore Estate in Asheville, the largest privately owned house in the United States. Curry complains about the forty-dollar admission fee and the irony of the house having forty-three bathrooms that visitors cannot use. He jokingly refers to the estate as the family home of "Anderson Vanderbilt Pooper."

biltmore estate· george vanderbilt· asheville· anderson cooper· robber barons

10:20 Well, I'm glad that twit came in handy. Yeah! I am just saying and then people like hey it's really good and we should hear John on Twit more i'm just saying. I went back to bed now we've learned a couple of important things We need a minimum of 20 amps in order to run the air conditioner in the RV And Stuart only had us hooked up to a 15 amp circuit so we got through the night with fans only but that was actually okay didn't there was no problem uh... and then before leaving ashville of course when you're in asheville what do you have to see what is the number one attraction i guess that's you give up or did i just let me know i'm just a bit commenting at your view connections breaking up horribly yeah i'm sorry so what does this is the number one attraction built more home oh yeah i've been there yes it's uh... it's the largest privately owned house in america own by was now was said george vanderbilt was he one of the robber barons is that what he was

11:28 Was it George that owned that? Yeah. Not Cornelius? No, no, George built it. Their family was a huge shipping operation... there's a winery attached to that place Gardens, Winery I mean you can get married there they have an inn It's incredible! It's a huge operation By the way 40 bucks per person to get in Hello These evil elites just keep screwing us even when they're dead that shouldn't be that high i don't remember paying them by my soul i think i oh yeah i think i went to the i think you know the gift shop and said sneak in the back way for free has sounds like some new deal this undecided obviously didn't just spend forty bucks i wasn't about to spend forty bucks a look at somebody's house there now but i thought it was kind of obligatory in your work when we ever be back in asheville so uh... we want and here's our irony for his of course this is uh... the family home over

12:28 Anderson Vanderbilt pooper and I asked by the way he never comes by and there's 43 bathrooms in this place but you can't use any of them. How ironic is it? I can't poop into Anderson Poopers house how was that ironic anyway? Interesting, but ironic? I'm just talking crap Anyway, then we left. Hauled it down and wanted to make it in time for our reservation here in South Carolina in Charleston Unfortunately we couldn't pass by Marvin & Joshua's Exxon station there at exit 135 on route I-95

CHAPTER 07 / 46 Discussion

Live Oak Farms, Solar Powered Agriculture

The crew visited Live Oak Farms north of Charleston, South Carolina, which operates entirely on solar power. Curry describes purchasing raw milk, fresh eggs, and homemade jam from the facility, which utilizes fifty large solar panels. He also mentions missing a planned stop at an Exxon station owned by listeners Marvin and Joshua due to scheduling constraints.

live oak farms· charleston· raw milk· solar panels· agriculture

13:10 It would have taken us like an hour and a half out of our way. And it was a real bummer, so we called them and had a nice chat. They were really disappointed I felt really bad but it's like... We just had to haul ass. Mickey thinks the interstate route numbers is the speed limit! Unbelievable this woman drives like she cooks. It's either fire off or fire on So we did make it in time. Well don't put her on the 101! But unfortunately, we couldn't see Marvin and his son Joshua and they got all kinds of commitments so they couldn't come down for the show today either but I promised them some karma...so let me hand that out right now. You've got

13:49 harmless especially because they were going to give us a free tank of gas and we could use that so i'm real sorry miss them all in john something you would appreciate it uh... halfway down the key is some kind of crazy app where you can find all these farms and stuff in the u s we went alive oak farms which is probably about two hours ah... north of uh... charleston or they have raw milk eggs everything fresh homemade jam just beautiful uh... farm and we picked up a whole bunch of stuff. We had some cottage cheese made fresh, and the whole thing runs on solar panels. They got like 50 huge solar panels right there sitting in the farmland that empowers everything all the refrigerators... The whole deal! So it's beautiful just fantastic having a great time so far yeah unfortunately you know you get your hookup to get back into kind of civilization then you start reading the news

CHAPTER 08 / 46 Discussion

C-SPAN Coverage, UK Parliament Hearings

Curry criticizes C-SPAN for broadcasting British parliamentary hearings instead of focusing on United States government activities. He argues that the UK phone hacking scandal is being used as a distraction from domestic budget issues. The hosts suggest that C-SPAN is neglecting its primary duty to monitor the American government.

c-span· uk parliament· phone hacking scandal· budget debate· media distraction

14:49 I know that good it's nice when you can watch anything and then you because i spent a marathon yesterday watching c-span clips and stuff people sent me in checking out the no agenda news networks like unbelievable well we do have some stuff to talk about let me guess you got something else he spent got screwed over be I'm sorry yeah go ahead and screwed us over by having all these British hearings which were

15:26 they're boring these british hearings i did get some choice gems but mostly from the parliaments guy screaming at each other you know, well I want to play a couple clips that have my take on it and actually have something myself that i found but of course this is the uh... the distraction of the week and so c-span actually has just decided to negate their actual job of bringing us Our own government's evilness and now they're showing UK stuff? You know what I said was C-SPAN has actually negated their job of bringing us our own government's evilness, and now they've decided that it is important for them to do British stuff. Well our own government is just talking about the budget anyway so you are getting kind of old

CHAPTER 09 / 46 Discussion

Rigged Sports, Japanese Women's World Cup Victory

The hosts claim that the Japanese victory in the Women's World Cup was rigged to provide an economic and morale boost following the Fukushima disaster. They argue that professional sports are often manipulated for political or social reasons. This theory posits that the United States team was permitted to lose to facilitate this narrative.

women's world cup· japan· fukushima· rigged sports· soccer

16:19 uh... have a couple of uh... well first of all this or was something that's completely different which is that we'd leave discussed in the past on the show the fact that uh... we believe most professional sports are rated told yes what do you mean we've seen along the line with we've predicted accurately every single time and the world now we believe but we believe there are also to read s why we can predict them right but we forgot we didn't pay attention to the women soccer Where the so-called you know where the powerhouse of female soccer which is the United States by the way But for some unknown reason, the Japanese won there at the World Cup. Yeah The reason is called Fukushima What do you mean? They needed a boost an economic boost So play the clip one two finish in another rigged game Okay hold on a second I just got to get everything all set up here

17:17 Already let's hit it off the turn for checkered flag goes in the air 15th career win What is that tour de France that was NASCAR's army car winning How do we how do you say I hasn't won all year yeah, huh? Oh It hasn't won all year and now all of a sudden, this is interesting because not only the army car, the army NASCAR, the sponsored car after we played that clip with that woman in congress complaining about the government financing these cars for promotion. The army car for the first time this season wins

CHAPTER 10 / 46 Discussion

NASCAR Army Car Win, MK Ultra Theory

A recent NASCAR race where the Army-sponsored car won is cited as evidence of rigged outcomes in professional racing. The hosts discuss a congresswoman's complaints about government funding for racing sponsorships and jokingly suggest she is under MK Ultra mind control. They also touch upon the history of NASCAR originating from moonshine running in the South.

nascar· army car· tony stewart· mk ultra· military sponsorship

18:06 And coincidentally the guy who's a teammate, which is Tony Stewart comes in second. Which is rare that two guys on the same team come in one-two and Tony Stewart I believe was assuaged because Steward's the one about three or four years ago as a famous racer who claimed that NASCAR was totally rigged! Yeah So okay here Tony you get second, well there's your pot full of money just shut up. Shut up. Should we play that clip from the douchebag woman again about... The motor, what did she call it? Motor ship? Motor shorts. You know that we're at war in Iraq and Afghanistan they don't need a racing car to tell them that we have a volunteer military and our country's at war already this year the Republican Congress has voted to cut nutrition programs for the poor hungry and for infants

19:00 and this, this majority is cutting investments in energy efficiency and high gas prices. I urge my colleagues to support this amendment and limit the motor ship sponsor racing to twenty million dollars. Motor ships! Hungry and for infants. You know someone sent me a note that said you guys totally missed it, this woman is MK Ultra she's getting the same brain wave reversal uh... radiation that those newscasters get that's what happened is this is not this isn't purely as she's programmed to talk it's all part of the nascar system and then she got confused she should if you terrible anyway so i i just was just cracking up when they are me to get a car one makes so much sense in really does like we've gotta yell go troops go war yeah there of course nascar started actually know they're right

19:56 No, I think i did know that but it doesn't come to mind. Yeah, I got a big lecture on that from Stuart He says everyone talks about NASCAR but really Jimmy Johnson was running moonshine That's how it all started running moonshine from Asheville and apparently Jimmy Johnson is still running moonshine and he has got a new label an everything just so making it You gotta love the south It's beautiful Yeah well its definitely entertaining so anyway so that i thought that was kind of funny a little bit off topic but uh... buddham thematic and then the japanese thing i'm just annoyed that we didn't know not only pick up on it earlier but we didn't bet on it because if you read this is your thing here we could have made some money with their mates in my actually uh... i was watching the dutch team i was following the american team for awhile anna and then these japanese just came out of nowhere as i get now we could have absolutely predicted we could've predicted the nascar to

CHAPTER 11 / 46 Discussion

UK Parliament Theatrics, Claire Perry Moon Landing Comments

The hosts review clips from the UK Parliament, comparing the behavior of MPs to Monty Python characters. MP Claire Perry is heard referencing the anniversary of the moon landing and "conspiracy theorists" while questioning the Prime Minister. The discussion explains "Checkers" as a government-owned country house used for official and social gatherings.

david cameron· claire perry· moon landing· checkers· uk parliament

20:56 It's all rigged. Yeah, it's all bread and games for the slaves yeah I think we're just slow on the draw you want to anyway? Yeah We'll go on with you do take something because I got a bunch of camera on clips that in Parliament there's one two three four five of these clips And they're they're all different enough and funny enough them a couple of emerges few hilarious effect I'll just play one of the ones that I think is amusing You know how Monty Python used to always mock females? Because we were noticing, JC and I were watching the parliament. We noticed that the women in parliament with the exception of a couple of blondes are all they all look like Monty Python characters, the guys in drag. Yeah yeah! And they'd all talk like this...

21:43 Yes, well here's the one who not only talks like that the most but apparently when they call on her everybody hoots and hollers and the speaker of Parliament has to stop them and scold them for not letting her talk. Fear or favour? They should go where the evidence leads! They should arrest whoever they choose! They couldn't have a clearer message or more support from the government! Claire Perry Today is the anniversary of the moon landing. The Honourable Lady, Miss Pierre, I don't know why people are saying ooh when i call the Honourable Lady for advice. It's a very extraordinary choice of response! I want to hear the Honorable Lady! Claire Perrette! I agree Mr Speaker They're all the goodest shit they know it they're all like it's Monty Python

22:34 Today, people will know is the anniversary of the moon landing around which conspiracy theorists like to cluster. May I urge the Prime Minister that rather than listening to the vapid conspiracy hat gate theorist he focus on the facts? Can you tell us what he's doing to toughen up the rules around the use of checkers to make sure it is never used for slumber parties for media tycoons again? Did she say checkers?! Yeah, checkers I guess is like a... What am i missing? I was gonna look it up something in the chat room might know but the checkers is like some facility owned by the government which has either a house or home or something. Checkers! And I guess that you do this like link it's like the Lincoln bedroom where I guess they were renting it out to anybody got a lot of money. I gotta tell you though that of course

23:27 Gibbon Nation East Parliament is much more evolved, you know it's a much older country than the United States. So they've got their show is down! You know? They all know their parts and are going to hoot and holler... Yeah, and here somebody says liar during his speech. Oh yeah everyone freaks out. yeah, this is much more entertaining I was listening along to our national treasure which by the way the strongest FM signal you can get anywhere in the south is always NPR and we're trying to groove to some country music that keeps fading in and out there's more. And I want you play a couple more because they do have a...I have some thoughts about this phone hacking scandal

CHAPTER 12 / 46 Discussion

Phone Hacking Scandal, Intelligence Agency Rivalries

The hosts theorize that the UK phone hacking scandal is actually a proxy war between intelligence agencies like MI6, the CIA, and the FBI. They criticize mainstream media outlets like NPR and the New York Times for their enthusiastic coverage of the scandal. The segment also touches on David Cameron's use of the Americanism "the buck stops here."

phone hacking· mi6· cia· fbi· npr

24:17 and of course uh... your assertion that tonight might actually have some stuff to back it up is that this is basically the either cia slash fbi at war with m i six and of course everyone who listens to this show knows that all these organizations these uh... covert secret spying agencies are deeply embedded with the media as are the police, as are the politicians like duh but man! The guys on NPR they're like orgasming over this. They're like orgasming over this. The guy's in New York Times orgasming like oh this is so awesome you know they just... They're just so happy it's disgusting

25:02 Yeah, I know it is disgusting and they are so happy because it's like one of the sides. Well another one that just kind of off topic... The only reason I made this clip was because there was an article in the BBC two days ago that I blogged that discussed the fact that British hate Americanisms but meanwhile Cameron throws out one that makes zero sense in England As far as I'm concerned, play The Buck Stops Here. Okay hold on a second... Just little slow with the fingers today so everything's getting sweaty again and i can't move stuff okay here we go Was she right or was she merely trying to protect her friend the Prime Minister? Hey hey hey! The decision was mine in politics in the end The Buck stops here with the Prime Minister I made the decision, I defended the decision and I give it a very full

26:00 What does that even mean in England? He had a... They don't call anything a buck. Don't they use bucks? I actually didn't hear anyone protest too much Yeah, it's just a word book buck buck Let me hear let me just roll that back one second I defend the decision and i've given a very full explanation about it today Sorry, I didn't quite go back far enough. Let me listen again She's merely trying to protect her friend the Prime Minister. The decision was mine, in politics in the end the buck stops here with the Prime Minister I made a decision, I defend the decision and I've given a very full explanation about it today Interesting Well Obama says that too and of course that originated with FDR was not? Harry Truman Oh Truman right But when he says the buck what is the actual etymology of the Buck Stops Here What is inferred with Buck

27:00 It means... I don't know. No, it doesn't have to do with the buck itself! It had to do with a dollar bill and it would stop at in other words the final decision had to be made at one point that would be here's where it stays are all the bull I know what it means but I'm just trying understand the actual use of the word on a high you have to go back to 1946 whenever true hold on hold on let's get into our time machine lets go back to 1946 ok so anyway should I have two clips I want to get to less give you were just for getting before we get your theory I didn't realize until i would listen to these things for hours on end what a douchebag Cameron is. Duh!

CHAPTER 13 / 46 Discussion

David Cameron, Refusal to Answer Direct Questions

Clips from parliamentary hearings show Prime Minister David Cameron repeatedly refusing to name the company hired to perform background checks on Andy Coulson. MPs John Cryer and Denis Skinner challenge Cameron on his meetings with News International regarding the BSkyB bid. Cameron is also heard muttering "gotcha" under his breath during a heated exchange.

david cameron· john cryer· denis skinner· coulson· background checks

27:42 Now I have two instances where he does the absolute most astonishing version of not answering a question that is extremely direct. And there are two clips, douchebag one and douchebag 2 these are different times during the hearings one came out maybe an hour later or so but it's on two different questions about two different things he refuses to answer and then look at the way handles it Mr John Cryer. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Order! Order! I'll have two hamburgers. The House will listen

28:22 to Mr John Cryer. Thank you, Mr Speaker on July the 8th the Prime Minister said that he commissioned a company to do a basic background check on Coulson now for the fourth time I'm asking for the name of the company it's a pretty simple question just come to dispatch box and name the company We did hire a company to do a basic background check and that is an entirely appropriate thing to do. And it was an entirely appropriate report, but I have to say the reason i hired him was above all the assurances that he gave me That is the key part of the decision and thats what im prepared to say Its that Miliband thing where you just dont answer the question It's weird! Then here's another question that he wont answer in Douchebag 2 The Dennis Skinner

29:08 Mr Skinner. In the course of the past few minutes, the Prime Minister has been asked a simple question twice and refused to answer it As Prime Minister, did he ever discuss the question of the Be Sky bid with News International at all the meetings that they attended? I never had one inappropriate conversation. Let me be clear! Listen let me be clear... Eat your peas! I completely took myself out any decision-making about this bid

29:54 I had no role in it, i had no role when the announcements were going to be made that is the point and when the honorable gentleman makes signals like that I have to say Order! The house again needs to calm down. What is the English word for douchebag? A douchebag? No, no no they don't say douche bag. Surely they say like... Vaginal washing sack! Delta Bravo! Vaginal washing sack! The question was properly heard- No Delta Bravo! No I know they don't say that. I guarantee you the douche bag is You feminine hygiene sack! The Prime Minister's answer must be properly heard. The Prime Minister

30:36 I've answered the question and the point i would make is unlike the party he's been supporting for the last god knows how many years this party set out all its contacts, all it's meetings everything it did in stark contrast to the party opposite Mr. Tobias Elwood Alright now do you have more? Because I gotta say something now I got one more now We done okay now this is interesting because I didn't notice it until i was editing the clip and It's apparently there was a whole bunch of sleazeballs in Gordon Browne's thing at then and throughout this discussion Cameron as keeps pointing them out but In This case he points out something after some question And then he just been Just Under his breath, and you can just barely hear it in the clip. You're gonna have to listen Carefully He says gotcha

31:31 Okay, hold on. Yeah I got it. You had Damien McBride! You had Alistair Campbell falsifying documents in government you still got Tom Baldwin working in your office! Take that you bully damn you I gotcha I gotcha I gotcha Wow all right so let me just say something I am actually leaning towards Murdoch in all of this.

CHAPTER 14 / 46 Discussion

Media Hypocrisy, Government Surveillance vs. Tabloid Tactics

The hosts argue that the public outrage over tabloid phone hacking is misplaced compared to the lack of concern regarding mass government surveillance. They cite programs like Echelon and the AT&T "vacuum cleaner" building in San Francisco as examples of systemic privacy violations. They suggest the media focuses on Murdoch to avoid reporting on government crimes.

phone tapping· echelon· at&t· surveillance· rupert murdoch

32:10 uh... i am and in general i think that uh... and i've dealt with lots of journalists journey i have a particularly of the celebrity tabloid variety they hide out in trash cans they ambush people you know which by the way is always okay there's never problem uh... i live in los angeles as he had happened a lot you know this is it be as celebrities are they literally are just like stocked beasts And there's all kinds of stuff. There are all kinds of rummaging through trash, break-ins and stealing stuff... If you really want to get information about organizations then you're going have to resort to some dodgy at best tactics I'm not trying to say it is right or legal but the outrage only came after it was revealed that they hacked into a dead girl's phone and saved the children everyone was freaking out

33:05 but this distraction and this is what bothers me so much about the news media if they are all salivating and just literally having orgasmic explosions over this. But where is the media we talk about the actual crimes of governments like let's take phone tapping, let's take echelon, let's take what our own government is doing actually sucking up all communications Listening to everything we do, tracking all of our online moves. you know, putting all kinds of filters and routers in place. We have an entire vacuum cleaner in San Francisco that AT&T building... No one! No one says anything about that no that's okay it's okay for the government to- for our own government to break the law massively and finagle and twist the law And where is the press? Nowhere they're all huge douchebags I'm sorry vaginal hygiene sacks

34:08 And it really is... You should be playing the douchebag clip. Yeah, this is one for all media. It really is annoying and you just-it's like they're-this is such inside baseball they are so loving this They are just, oh it's disgusting and any journalist who is on this story and talk... they're immediate douchebag because where is their reporting about what's actually happening with our government? The UK by the way is ten times worse. It's okay to have cameras in every corner of the street! It's okay for Gitmo Nation Lowlands to start fingerprinting people digitally in the street that's okay?! It's OK to shoot DNA dust onto people so you can track them That's Okay

34:52 No, all of that's fine. So instead we're sucked into this huge reality show which by the way Murdoch is making lots of money on! It's great it's good for business everyone's reading his papers watching his TV shows it's just it makes me...it's abhorrent. There you go, thank you chat room. Completely abhorrent. Play the pet peeve theme. Pet peeve! Pet peeve! I don't see Currys' pet peeves all day. Douchebags now that said there is some very funny stuff uh oh yeah i mean it's just there's some amazingly funny stuff and

CHAPTER 15 / 46 Discussion

Louise Mensch, Piers Morgan Phone Hacking Allegations

MP Louise Mensch accused Piers Morgan of being open about using phone hacking during his time as an editor at the Daily Mirror. Morgan appeared on CNN with Wolf Blitzer to vehemently deny the allegations, calling Mensch a coward for not repeating the claims outside of parliamentary privilege. The hosts discuss the potential for edited manuscripts of Morgan's book containing incriminating anecdotes.

louise mensch· piers morgan· wolf blitzer· daily mirror· parliamentary privilege

35:28 did you see what happened with uh... pierce morgan now would be a united discuss piers morgan before he of course we know that this guy is totally crooked uh... he uh... did pump and dumps the way was editor of the daily mail uh... he wrote about said companies they held stock in the guys at all those sleeves bucket total and of course you know i thought it would like kind of uh... slip out and be okay so there's this uh... member of parliament louise mensch and louise maria yeah yet louis mentioned very interesting uh... first of all i was like where do you know this name from she is missing just recently got married to peter menstrual that is peter mensch and peter mention rings a bell no he is a metallica's manager here manages red hot chili peppers and she writes kind of like uh... sleazy chick books

36:21 and she's a total, I mean she is... let me see. She actually got married to Peter Mench and didn't tell her own kids from her previous marriage. Yeah, she is really weird and she's a gold digger it seems like. She's totally a socialite. She's kind of hot have to say that! And this is somewhat longer clip but Wolf Blitzer interviews her plays a clip of something she said during these hearings and then gets pierce morgan on to rebut what she's saying and you know that she's on solid ground listen to this is now a celebrity anchor cnn do not appear to have lost him any questions at all about the phone hacking as a former editor of the daily mirror he said in his book insider recently and i quote that little trick of entering a standard four digit code allow anyone to call number here are your messages

37:15 in that book he boasted that using that little trick enables him to win scoop of the year on a story about Svengård and Eriksson. So, that is a former editor of The Daily Mirror being very open about his personal use of phone hacking okay daily mirror not the daily mail so what she's going to be here that i put his engines saying in his forthcoming book pierce morgan talks about how awesome this is that you just use a pin code the standard set by all cell phone companies and you can now listen to uh... to their voicemails and uh... and that's why got some big scoops and piers morgan of course not like in this part one evidence do have uh... to make that kind of accusation for she hides behind parliamentary

37:58 uh... the privilege or whatever against pierce morgan Well I said what i said in the committee Wolf and im afraid right now that Im going to say that I cant comment about it outside of the committee room because as Mr Morgan will know inside parliament when I speak at a select committee of parliament, I am protected by absolute parliamentary privilege. To repeat something outside of parliament doesnt give me that cloak of privilege and mr Morgan is a very rich man so I'm sure that the ferocious investigative journalists at cnn and across the news media in the united states will take a full note of what was said in the committee and look into it that's the best time for it i'm going to be able to do on legal grounds so that's like a total that's not that's a hit that's a two-to-the head had you heard about this

38:46 No, I missed that one. This blew me away so then of course we gotta get Pierce on it. Well I understand the legal grounds. Pierce Morgan is joining us on the phone right now and I want to give him a chance to respond- I guess Pierce is on vacation he couldn't come into this studio. ...that very direct allegation you made against him and his reputation. Pierce go ahead and uh respond tell Mrs. Mensch what you think Well I'm amused by her cowardice in refusing to repeat that allegation now she's not in parliament and covered by privilege. As she may be already aware, she came out with an absolute blatant lie during those proceedings at no stage in my book or indeed outside of my book have I ever

39:24 boasted of using phone hacking for any stories. For the record, in my time at The Mirror and The News Of The World I have never hacked a phone told anybody to hack a phone or published any story based on the hacking of a phone and what she did today was a deliberate in my view and outrageous attempt to smear my name CNN's name the Daily Mirror's name and I think her now is going breathtaking gall to just sit here calmly and say I can't possibly repeat that because i haven't got privilege is an outrage. And I call on you Miss Mench now to repeat it, show some balls, repeat what she said about me... Show some balls! ...and then maybe go out buy a copy of my book The Insider and see where in that book these claims that you made today in a televised committee watched all over the world where that claim

40:15 is in that book. uh... and secondly i think because she's in the publishing world of through her marriage to peter mensch i think she might have uh... an earlier manuscript of the book something that might have been taken out that's probably is quite likely most books uh... at that time but yeah you know it was a lot about your head

41:02 Now I'm tied with a lot of New York editors and i keep hearing about stuff that was taken out of books. And it gets passed around as gossip around New York, and uh... it turns out the stuff is really some of its pretty juicy! Some of this stuff is like wow! But the publishers are kind of sheepish about putting certain things in because they have lawyers go over these books especially if they're written by politicians or anything to do with politics and they'll pull that crap out real fast the publisher can get sued if uh... you know um although i don't see how do i that particular anecdote would have been pulled out that's a leading that kind of and i'll see where it is now i mean now i can see him today but but when this book was went to lose in galleys i don't see what someone pull that out by anyway it's all irrelevant just entertaining and

CHAPTER 16 / 46 Discussion

Whistleblower Deaths, George Webley and Sean Hoare

The deaths of two whistleblowers related to the phone hacking scandal, George Webley and Sean Hoare, are discussed as suspicious events. Webley, a BBC composer and host, died in May, while Hoare was found dead more recently. The hosts suggest that the scandal involves deeper intelligence connections than the media is reporting.

george webley· sean hoare· whistleblowers· bbc· heart attack

41:52 It's obvious that the whole idea is here, certainly in the United Kingdom. All commercial media bad BBC good BBC rocks BBC is not the ministry of truth these are guys who tell it like it is The Guardian good they've got big balls this is just more psyops programming on your mind and by the way nice that no one but two whistleblowers came to an untimely end their lives Did you know about the first whistleblower, George Webley? No I know about the second one because we- well i think that was...I think that now ranks as the most email news story. Not suspicious by the way not at all it's not suspicious we don't know how he died there's nothing doesn't say heart attack or just died is it how bad is if you get killed that's one thing but to not even tell people how you died that sucks these guys are getting blatant

42:45 So, Webley. George Webley he's a actually is very colorful he died in I think it was March and you will remember that so he's a composer he's a producer he did the original music for The Office He hosted Have I Got News For You on BBC One he was a radio host in the 90s at one point he said that sky bug the dressing rooms of the guests in order to get candid off-air scoops when they were on some of these uh... kind of like celebrity television shows and not just their addressing rules but the green room and uh... yeah he died of a heart attack this past may eight fifty three i admit this past may they still haven't released the full corners report because gee that would suck

43:43 and uh... so he was the first guy to kind of blow the whistle you know i don't think murdoch is a kinda guy that's going around ordering hits on people this is it's obvious that this is much much deeper than will ever know they will ever come out there to keep it very superficial but there is something interesting with maybe this shows a little tip of the hat as to how it works have you heard of the bureau investigative journalism in the united kingdom yeah i have is that when you're website once in a while yes so the bureau of investigative journalism they came out uh... they've come up with a number of uh... primarily anti u s stories

CHAPTER 17 / 46 Discussion

Bureau of Investigative Journalism, Drone Strike Casualties

The Bureau of Investigative Journalism released a report claiming that US drone strikes in Pakistan have killed significantly more civilians than the Pentagon admits. The report identifies specific children and individuals killed since August 2010. The US government has rejected these findings, maintaining that no civilians were killed during the period in question.

bureau of investigative journalism· drones· pakistan· civilian casualties· pentagon

44:26 and they came out with uh... this story about the number of civilians who've been killed by drones that the u s has been uh... flying around everywhere that we don't have an official war and then buy their count you know it's at least sixty five forty five or sixty five civilians kids have been killed a got photographic evidence and the pentagon turns around says no that's not true they were all combatants dollar than what he will come back from some terrorists And so these guys are pressing pretty hard against, well obviously the CIA. This is where the new research comes in it's been done by the Bureau of Investigative Journalism which is a non-profit organization of journalists who dig into this kind of thing now they've done some work on strikes carried out since August 23rd

45:10 2010, which is when there was a particular strike which caused civilian casualties and when the US says it changed its policy. Now they say that by their reckoning 45 people civilians who were not militants or key figures in the leadership of Al-Qaeda or the Taliban were killed during that period They're looking at a further 15 incidents where they would estimate at least another 60 uninvolved people were killed, making well over a hundred casualties. Now the US has responded to the Bureau of Investigative Journalism saying that these are wild wildly off these figures they've rejected them but this is the response of the bureau's Chris Woods to that We had feedback from the intelligence community saying categorically even having seen our summary findings they stand by their view that absolutely no civilians have been killed in Pakistan since August 23rd last year

46:04 Yet we have named individuals, named children. We have photographic evidence. We've sent researchers into the field in Waziristan to look at this. We followed it up through NGOs and lawyers in Pakistan and that...we can't understand why they're categorically saying no civilian deaths when our evidence seems to absolutely show that All these claims are quite hard to back-up aren't they? Well, no. In a sense that there is quite a lot of reporting from within the tribal areas by coincidence and exhibition of photographs Alright so we can keep on going with that but I find this highly interesting that we have this independent non-commercial organization called The Bureau Of Investigative Journalism who were funded by David Potter, David and Elaine Potter Foundation

CHAPTER 18 / 46 Discussion

David Potter, Scion and MI6 Connections

The hosts investigate David Potter, the founder of Scion and a primary funder of the Bureau of Investigative Journalism. They speculate that Potter's history in the tech industry, including the creation of Symbian, suggests deep ties to British intelligence. They propose that the Bureau's reporting on US drone strikes may be part of an MI6 operation against the CIA.

david potter· scion· symbian· mi6· intelligence funding

46:51 And so I'm looking for a connection between the funding and MI6. Because this is clearly pitted against the CIA and the other intelligence organizations in the US David Potter should ring a bell for you, John as he was the founder and CEO of Scion. Scion? Yeah remember the computers? Oh that little calculator? Yes! That's a British, in fact I have the Scion 1 as a collector item. I've got a Scion that slides up and you can plug a modem into it. Right that is the one i have. Yeah I got one of those somewhere. So in 1980s... The Scion Organizer 1 1984

47:37 So he started the company, ran it for more than 20 years. Scion became a leader in software for home microcomputers In 1984 using radical technology the Scion team invented the Organizer We just talked about the world's first volume held...volume handheld computer for personal use and information. In 1998 he led the creation of Symbian Limited in partner with Nokia Ericsson Motorola and Matsushita So you gotta think this guy had intelligence all over him just building all these operating systems. Right! Do you know anything about him? I mean, because he's like a legend in the computer business Never met the guy that i know of Yeah He may not even exist Although I might have met him in the 80s but I don't recall it He might not even exist Not real

48:27 So, this is what we need to keep our eye on. Is for more connections between intelligence certainly MI6 and the CIA and I'm still not even sure why? I don't know what the deal is but there's something there and we just need to have all of our producers stay vigilant and keep on it see if you can come up with I think it would be worthwhile to find out who the consultant was that one guy in Parliament keeps ragging on Cameron about. Name the consulting firm, name the consulting firm! I've asked you four times and he won't answer. Well then if he's asking the question four times then he clearly knows the answer

49:13 I would think so. He can't say it, okay? Somebody... right he can't say it so somebody's got to have been brought out in one of the... somebody must know or there has gotta be a news article I mean yeah and that I bet you that's a clue So there is a couple wars going on we don't know about this not just the drones and uh... and I think Murdoch was probably doing us more service than even he realizes It certainly Well thats why Yeah That's why.. he pretty blase about it play my Murdoch clip The one nope Yep. Nope, yep. Mr. Muddle do you accept that ultimately you are responsible for this whole fiasco? No Yeah there was actually something he said right after that which I thought really brought it home listen to this Well a lot of people had different agendas i think in trying to build this hysteria all our competitors in this country formally announced the consortium to try and stop us

CHAPTER 19 / 46 Discussion

Executive Producer John Turek, Rocky Mountain Logistics

John Turek is thanked as an Executive Producer for the episode. The hosts discuss his career move from a large ISP to a smaller school and debate whether the RV tour should attempt to cross the Rocky Mountains to reach Denver. They express concern that the vehicle may not handle the steep grades and high altitudes of the mountain range.

john turek· comcast· pennsylvania· rocky mountains· denver

50:14 the cars with dirty hands and they built this area around it. There you go, a lot of different people had an agenda uh-huh you don't say yeah gosh yeah well Murdoch 20 years ago would have probably had a little more... You know the guy needs to go on some testosterone regimen He needs some Abilify! No he needs to cut back on the Abilify you know a little uh... little docile anyway enough about this crap cuz that's what everyone gets uh... all day long on the mainstream bs media let's thanks to producers for the show john dewey and we'd hello i think it they were only three came in short is so this show when producer we were in a thank profusely for being an executive producer gannon member of the three twenty four club which is john torre can countersport pennsylvania

51:08 uh... with no john and i'm a listening show since episode one sorry dvd's while i made it feel other small donations in about halfway to my night time about half way halfway of money would keep the great work i hope the hot pockets two thousand eight or passes through pennsylvania please have more food and wine talk to change things up a bit but we did that shows data if this show we get we just didn't today If this show stays so depressing, I'll have to start taking antidepressants. Can you please give me a shot of karma? You've got Karma we need some virtual abilify to hand out as well He says he wants he needs to make the right decision for his career has an opportunity to run all tech at a small school instead Of working as a lead engineer for the largest internet service provider in the nation

51:58 Hello Comcast, thanks for all you do. John Turek, Shingle House Pennsylvania and I believe Comcast is located there in Pennsylvania We actually have an invite it may be from John actually we have an in no it's not we have an invite from no it's I think its Denver to go up to the Comcast building to park in the parking lot and they will run fiber out to the rig on you're not going to do it i don't know we uh... we don't know if we can make denver and we might have to stay a little more east of denver unfortunately would be only have so many places we need to go from people actually is supporting the show it's all kind of east of uh... at eastern eastern it's always a very safe you don't look but then for what you won't miss it because i'll tell you let me just give you a little there's a there's a big mountain range in the middle of the country yeah called iraqi ever that they are

52:49 This is this makes like everything every mountain range you've ever seen in Europe and anywhere around the world look like except for the Himalayans It makes it look like small potatoes. This thing is a bear to get up because you got a good Denver's It sits at five miles and mile high mile-high city. Yeah, it's a mile high And you have to go up to do that some of the most rugged miserable uh... it's very says scenic but is not by what i would call fun is cool sun-hot well i'm as making our distilled do that with blame you can make an hour discussing this last night because you know the it's a discontent like out of the way of going straight up north from like austin his was kind of kinda idea and now i'm saying have you seen how this thing drives on a four percent angle op

53:37 It's like we're overheating, we're like oh another scenic overlook. Let's stop there so the engine can cool down. I can't imagine lugging this thing through the Rockies. I don't think it would make it Yeah, I wouldn't do it Alright who else have we got? That's it! That's all we've got one guy Really? Yeah Well I'm glad we undertook this journey Thanks everybody. I do have a couple of PR mentions then, luckily Here's one for the new domain name system which i'm looking forward to getting set up Getting close it's hard doing stuff on 3G remotely but isahappyslave.com will be great We can start redirecting so you can do adam dot isahappyslave.com that's pretty awesome

CHAPTER 20 / 46 Discussion

No Agenda PR, New Domain Names and Products

The hosts list several new domain names and products created by the "No Agenda" community, including isahappyslave.com and a dedicated card game. They promote handcrafted iPad stands featuring the show's logo and a new meetup organization website. A portion of the proceeds from these community-driven projects supports the show's production.

isahappyslave.com· no agenda card game· ipad stands· meetups· domains

54:27 uh... along with that we also have uh... airport opt-out dot com nice one all four into no agenda show dot com persistent jet contrails dot com forwarding as long as well is reject rejecting servitude dot d e for our argumentation deutschland listeners out there uh... bro agenda dot com nice i think it's something that thing is new love and mean bro agenda grow agenda no bro agenda like broke the road to a bromance bro agenda yeah uh... mister smith is set up uh... no agenda meetup dot org now this site you gotta check out this it we now have a meet-ups i'd john is not just afford to know agenda show dot com uh... it's uh... it's all system where you can uh... schedule stuff on account or get together near the human resources in virginia are not going to stop with their gonna continue to do meet ups

55:23 then they'll just like the people I can get out together which is cool so make sure you check on our journey to dot org we have a no agenda 2012 .com thank very much Chris for that and no agenda card game here's another great you gotta go this website right now John this is a product and you can purchase it no agenda card game it's a deck of cards that features all love the artwork from the show I mean, and the...I should just read you some of the rules of the game because there's a way to play it. Have you seen it now? You see the cards? Yeah yeah! It's one of those games where you try to remember and flip over one and it is good. It's one of those games that are good games. Trading is basic. Yes so you trade cards back-and-forth. I like this. Dealing The player closest to age 33 shuffles the deck seven times and deals 1 card face down each player to his left

56:19 No player shall look at his hand until the dealer says, Karma! This is a good game. Uhhhh... Trading continues until players collected nine cards of a set and proclaims in the morning In the morning. I love this, you guys are great! So noagendacardgame.com and portion of the proceeds goes to the show so we like that get yourself these cards they look beautiful self radicalize and selfradicalized dot com now both pointing to the show site at no agenda show dot com love that great one hot pockets for your soul dot us

57:02 uh... as a producer lisa believes that eventually people trade hot pockets for their soul just to get their hands on this lovely nourishment no agenda magic numbers dot com currently affording snow agenda show but uh... looks like christian build a whole site there this week in tweeter dot com i can only imagine what that's i will be and another great premium no agenda ipad stands dot com so this is uh... beautifully handcrafted i've had stands with the kick-ass no agenda logo for sale for thirty three dollars compatible with ipad one and i've had to candles and iPhones sixty six percent of all profits going to the no agenda show another great one will put those on the links iraq and uh... course in the show notes at three two three dot any shownotes dot com so that's really it for

CHAPTER 21 / 46 Discussion

Propagating the Formula, Mind Controlled Children

Curry describes the success of the show's branding, noting that children of listeners on the road have memorized the show's jingles and slogans. He emphasizes the importance of "propagating the formula" to grow the audience. The hosts joke about the lack of signage on the RV and the "mind control" effect of their repetitive audio elements.

propagating the formula· jingles· mind control· road trip· branding

57:58 for the PR mentions and of course thanks all the producers who came out to meet up in North Carolina is fantastic. And thank you to our sole producer, executive producer and member 324 club for today John Turek everyone else out there you have a mission it is called propagating the formula here's how it works Our formula is this we go out We hit people in the mouth Order! Say it loud and proud like you mean it Shut Up Sleep And remind people to go to Dvorak.org slash NA, noagendanation dot com, noagendashow dot com and channeldvorak.com slash na. Dvorak.org slash NA Every single person who I've seen on the road who has kids they're completely mind controlled

58:54 The kids are all going like, HotPocketsDvorak.org slash NA! We've built a whole generation of kids who only live by our jingles. These producers I love them. John again the one thing that's wrong about this trip is you're not on it. Yeah well somebody has to hold down the fort. Well this is true but uh... we both make it i've been there were almost like you know we could actually be would even mind if john slept in the rv yeah by wood with that we got a great spot for either of the one over the cab at the end of that's fine that's a great story when you wake up and bang your head every once in awhile yeah and it's nice and cool out there not yes that the only thing is wrong as we don't really have any signage we have their worst illusion design from uh... harry pilgrim

CHAPTER 22 / 46 Discussion

Contessa Brewer, MSNBC Debt Ceiling Interview

MSNBC anchor Contessa Brewer is criticized for her interview style during a discussion on the US debt ceiling. The hosts play a clip where Brewer questions a congressman's authority by asking if he is an economist. They argue that the media often invites guests only to undermine their expertise for entertainment purposes.

contessa brewer· msnbc· debt ceiling· economics· media criticism

59:53 and then we did we have a guy who was going to do some science for us i don't know what you get inside is written aside as were kind of bland looking people like all that's it uh... the fact that the president is likely to play anything else in show business yeah when this is not so easy enough closes kinda disappointing but let me hit you back with one there so there was other stuff going on um... actually there was something funny they just picked up uh... in our incessant quest to look at the hot milfs on news television it's always fun when you get a hot one who says something really really dumb this is some douchette from msnbc and she's ragging on congressman forget who it is doesn't matter

1:00:41 about uh... you know the debt ceiling we have to raise a debt ceiling or the full faith and credit of the united states will be ruined forever all i guess it's good really ideas in the majority of the united states senate it goes up one point eight trillion dollars now is that two point eight three wise president your simplifying issues that were on the plate at the nation at that time when we were looking at going reverting into a depression at that point everyone the fact that we were going into a depression but i have to have a degree in economics yes ma'am i do highest honor ok so douche you had a clinton trying to get the name of that guy and then they move their douche bag woman yeah i've never seen either of them

1:01:27 I never see... yeah, i haven't either. But that was an unbelievable classic MSNBC and instead of listening to the guy just letting him talk you have to throw in are YOU an economist? Yeah do you know what your talking about? Uh yeah actually uh... Why should why invite somebody let me ask MSNBC as a whole why do you invite somebody on the show if you're going question their authority Aren't they supposed to be there because they're authoritative? They're supposed to know something or just invite dummies off the street. Is this like a six o'clock news where you break, you just find the stupidest guy you can cause you know you get a funny clip Yeah that's kind of the idea isn't it entertainment Well is when you pull that stunt Contessa Brewer is her name Contessa Brewer never heard of her No She's new she they just cast her and yeah she's not blonde by the way she's a brunette

CHAPTER 23 / 46 Discussion

Don't Ask Don't Tell, Graphic Military Abuse Stories

The hosts discuss the ongoing transition regarding the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy in the US military. They play clips of graphic stories involving the abuse of gay service members, which they suggest are being used as propaganda to delay or manipulate the repeal process. They express skepticism about the authenticity of some of the more extreme accounts.

don't ask don't tell· military· obama· sexual assault· propaganda

1:02:22 Yeah, the MSNBC is clueless. think spears from san manteo california and this i picked up from c-span it was able to watch some clips so of course we have don't ask don't tell uh... now there was a court ruling that uh... from the log cabin republicans which i guess is a gay faction within the uh... republican party saying uh... hey this is all unconstitutional you have to end on aston tell right away of course we know what hasn't actually been ended and uh... by the way all of the

1:03:01 uh... every single service men and women that i spoke to uh... of north virginia they all have had training for don't ask no tell so it is underway but of course until it's been certified by at all of the chief commanders and the white house and a psychologist new wells then there's a sixty day waiting period then you can go everybody and she She's trying to stop this from happening by showing that nothing has changed. In fact, she got really graphic and she essentially just said by telling these two stories forget about it we're nowhere near ready to implement don't ask don't tell I now want to share with you the story of Blake Stevens. I warn you that some of the material is graphic. Stevens joined the army in 2001

1:03:56 The verbal and physical attacks started quickly, and came from virtually every level of the chain of command. In one of the worst incidents a group of men tackled him shoved a soda bottle into his rectum And threw him backwards off an elevated platform onto the hood of a car When he reported the incident his platoon sergeant told him quote You're the problem you're the reason this is happening unquote and refused to take action His assailants told him that once deployed to Iraq, they would shoot him in the head. I recently received a... How about that? It seems like an unique story Well she has another one and this is from a recent email so again this is like basically saying we are nowhere near our armed forces because there's so much anti-gayism

1:04:54 It goes all the way up the chain of command. An email from Heath Phillips, who joined the Navy at the young age of 17 in 1988. Phillips was attacked on multiple occasions beginning his first weekend on duty when he reported the assault He was called a liar, a baby, mama's boy and a few other choice words he would complain to the chain of command and be told to shut up and ask for witnesses. In one particularly horrific incident, a group of men attacked Phillips in the shower and sodomized him with a toilet brush handle they laughed and joked about it the whole time." You gotta admit it's kind of funny

1:05:35 I don't know, doesn't sound funny to me. Well if it's bristle side it might be okay but to have the handle that's kind of a bummer After he went to the infirmary bleeding and in pain He was told he was fine and to take the day off Here take two aspirin I'm finding these stories incredulous. I'm not buying necessarily... No, of course not! It seems exaggerated to me. No, I think the whole idea is just to propagate the meme that we can't and we know that this can happen This is NOT supposed to happen That's why Obama didn't repeal it big lie and so just like you know in Afghanistan we're not going to pull troops out. We got no, oh no it's no good and we're not gonna pull people out of Iraq because ah the Iraqis they want us and were not gonna allow gays in the military to be open about their sexuality because its not what the evil elites want they wanna be all buggering behind closed doors doing it all in secret

CHAPTER 24 / 46 Discussion

Hillary Clinton, Afghanistan Withdrawal and India Relations

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is heard speaking in Istanbul and India regarding the US commitment to Afghanistan. She clarifies that while combat troops are drawing down, the US is not "leaving or disengaging" from the region. The hosts interpret this as a signal that the US military presence will remain permanent despite withdrawal narratives.

hillary clinton· afghanistan· india· istanbul· troop withdrawal

1:06:34 Listen to Lucifer. I'll just prove something to you about Afghanistan, she was in Istanbul and uh... Hold on first we gotta have her typical... She's changed her hairdo by the way. Lucifer Hillary Clinton. You got a new hairdo! Well good afternoon and let me begin by saying what an absolute pleasure it is to be back in Turkey and especially in this absolutely glorious city of Istanbul. Glorious city, I love it so much! We've got such lovely hair salons here... And so she's moving around from Turkey and then she is talking to India and here's what she has to say to our friends in India There are important matters on which we all disagree one with the other but we do have significant areas of common interest

1:07:26 We could begin by focusing on violent extremism, which threatens people in all of our countries. The United States is committed to Afghanistan and to the region. We will be there. Yes we are beginning to withdraw combat troops and transfer responsibility for security to the Afghan people – a process that will be completed in 2014 but drawing down our troops is not the same as leaving or disengaging. Yeah, there you go! So hello Afghanistan Hello Kandahar nice to still be here this comes out and says I don't know what that clip indicates i mean i didn't hear anything there that was...I'm not sure why you played that clip well because she's saying we're not leaving yeah yes were drawing down our troops but it's not the same thing as leaving

1:08:31 I think that this was part of, i think this is part to contradict the notion that we're fair weather friends more than anything else. Possibly because you know there's this Chinese thing going around well she actually says that uh they want to be friends with the Indians and the Chinese which would explain the drones on Pakistan I guess hey! We'll be your friends yeah I want to get more on that story That's where I think we should be heading with some are digging. I'm wondering what these drones are getting on my nerves? Yeah, it's kind of annoying you can imagine getting one shooting a hellfire in your butt or toilet brush. They're basically... Why can't they just put these drones over the US-Mexican border and shoot people coming across? Well i think that's kinda the idea We should be prepared for it One of our producers

CHAPTER 25 / 46 Discussion

Intelligence Agency Infighting, Shredding Servers

A producer with inside information reports on "warring factions" within US intelligence agencies regarding drone programs. The source claims that expensive servers are sometimes shredded simply because software won't run on them, illustrating government waste. Curry describes the physical process of industrial hard drive shredding used to destroy data.

drone programs· langley· server shredding· hard drive destruction· intelligence agencies

1:09:36 has a lot of inside information about the uh... the drone programs and uh... it's uh... so what this producer told me i'm trying to be very careful here is that uh... it's a total mess but there are warring factions inside these intelligence agencies and they're all trying out do each other to have the power so one instance of like you know half-a-million dollar server that they acquired. Then they found out the software wouldn't run on it, so they just shredded it! They threw in the machine shredder and got rid of it. Half a million dollar server boom gone and everyone's just buying stuff and trying to buy bigger machines and bigger servers to run faster analytics and kill more people from the sky unmanned or people flying them from Langley... And there is no investigation of that No one has looked at any of that stuff It's unbelievable

1:10:35 Why would they shred the server? Because it was no good. By the way, I do know that...I've seen these shredding devices They do exist and there's one that goes around you can release it or you can find a place that has one These hard disk shredders because guys, the theory is when I throw out my hard disks I have a sledgehammer that I slam into him and I figure that's you know gonna keep my well I don't know is anything on my heart this way. I can just see you outside on a rock Sledgehammering a drop yeah believe me the image in your brain is exact as the exact image in your polka dot underwear and your long johns Yeah, they're red long suspenders with their flap in the back

1:11:27 So, uh... so anyway these shredders are cool. I've thrown a disc or two in them and you just throw this hard- take the whole hard disk and chuck it into hopper and it just turns it into powder! It's unbelievable. Perfect well that's happening and is rampant. Is rampant This why these people listen to the show because they're so frustrated at least like oh thank you um... there seems to be a good story some should investigate somebody shredded up yeah i'd just gotta be so careful because it's over because they're afraid some memory was there obviously afraid the end of shredding said again if you are putting on auction like this well you know that might be some residual information on their they can do uh... right is that some code that i think we need to decode and i'm not quite sure i mean i have the at the pieces of the code it's like a cipher

CHAPTER 26 / 46 Discussion

LulzSec Hacking, Terry Jacks Code Theory

The hacking group LulzSec targeted Rupert Murdoch's "The Sun" website, redirecting it to a Twitter account claiming Murdoch had died. The hosts analyze the group's use of the 1974 song "Seasons in the Sun" by Terry Jacks, theorizing that the lyrics contain coded messages for intelligence agencies. They question why LulzSec's social media accounts remain active if they are truly a threat.

lulzsec· rupert murdoch· terry jacks· hacking· cia

1:12:20 And this has to do with, again our techno experts in the intelligence community who are sending a message and I believe it's in the lyrics of the song. This is a report uh... a total douche report of course from i think cnn about lol sec right what's going on here will throughout the spring and summer we follow this group it's called lol sec it looks like they might have turned the tables on rupert murdoch's group all set now posting on twitter uh... of the feet saying quote we have joy we have fun we haven't messed up murdoch's son and it appears they had were unable to reach all separate

1:12:57 Yeah, he tried to reach LulzSec. What did he do? Did he tweet at LulzSec? Hi! Wanna come on CNN? I guess he tweeted it... We wanna have you on our show. He tried to reach LulzSec. Now we've never really been able to reach them in the course of reporting on them but if you go to The Sun's webpage it's www.thesun.co.uk It switches over to the LulzSec Twitter account. It switches right over there and you see that message You see there, plus other tweets from them and from followers of them just saying how funny they think this is. Now LulzSec you know as I mentioned we've been reporting on them all spring and summer for some notorious hacking incidents. This is a group that has claimed responsibility for hacking into the CIA's website For the US Senate's website and hacking into PBS' website among other things It's a group of people nobody knows who they are or how many are in their group

1:13:49 But they have now turned the tables on Rupert Murdoch's son website at least for now. Usually these things last a few hours maybe and then they get back to normal, but it's wreaking havoc right now. So I think when you so they why would a group of apparently youngsters use this as their song? This is Terry Jax from like 1972. Now listen to the lyrics. Learned of love in ABC's, skinned our hearts and skinned our knees. Goodbye my friend it is hard to die! I don't know man...I mean this is not a group of youngsters who come up with this song as their code Do you remember the song? Let me try to summarize what your trying to say First of all nobody under the age of 40 knows the song

1:14:48 would know that song enough to want to play it, and nobody under the age of 40 would like now you make that clear for a kind of like it and i still can't like it is the are used by you under forty now i'm over forty that's why i know what's what i'm saying nobody nobody under forty would like that song so i or know this on so okay so but we're assuming any i think and i think we brought this up before that we take a little sec and let's be realistic about this and there's certain ways in doing things that are their total red herring trying to hack the cia website is nothing anybody in their right mind is going to do unless you are the CIA and you're just using it as a ruse. Right

1:15:32 Don't you think my logic's accurate there? Yeah, and I think there is code in this song. We did our ABCs of course everything with A B C three letters CIA MI6 FBI Goodbye My Friend It's Hard To Die so that's two to the head that they're giving people a warning to someone yeah This is total code. Probably a warning to some specific person it's total code And why would, but why would LulzSec if there were kids... Use that! Yeah well how about, why not use like Metallica or something? Something cool. Right and and why would they bother hacking the Sun and making a pronouncement that Murdoch was dead Well they wouldn't They wouldn't That's the fact. How come the LulzSec website and their Twitter account is still online? How come

1:16:30 Yeah, that's the question. Yeah, Twitter takes people off all the time. No it is still there why? Why? Because no one is investigating and no one cares! Leave it in there because you know its like the guys. You know, haha wink-wink nudge-nudge say no more please Well I don't what their...I guess if was a warning shot across somebody's bow we can sometimes identify what we think are codes But we can't necessarily decode them. I mean, it's like the three thirty-three thing We it crops up all over the place under all kinds of circumstances But we don't have no idea what it means that we haven't even come up with a theory 33 children abducted in the southwest of Gitmo Nation UK Apple set to open 33 new retail stores over the next two months Godman invests 33 crore and gold

CHAPTER 27 / 46 Discussion

BBC Science Reporting, Marginal Opinions Study

A review of BBC science coverage by Professor Steve Jones suggests the network should stop giving "false balance" to marginal opinions on topics like global warming and vaccines. The BBC announced it would appoint a science editor to ensure reports align with scientific consensus. The hosts criticize this as a move toward government-sanctioned agendas and the suppression of dissent.

bbc· steve jones· global warming· scientific consensus· impartiality

1:17:25 Clean technology ventures investments down 33 percent. Riots in Germany, German police detains 33 leftist activists Bosnia Herzegovina central bank made profit of thirty three million BAM and all kinds of stuff in there. It's like yeah it's hilarious You can find all these wonderful links by the way if you want to try and decode at 323 dot NA show notes dot com So we're coming up on show 333 and I want to remind everybody they can go to Dvorak.org slash NA and get a become the producer executive producer for show 333 which will you know probably Show up in somebody's list of thirty-three codes, and they say what the heck is this doing in here shut these guys down This is no good so The BBC John they have now with Murdoch kind of out of the way

1:18:21 David, of course if you want to make some news you gotta have a survey. You've gotta have a study Study shows something very interesting about the BBC's science reporting You're gonna die when you hear this clip A review of the BBC's coverage of science has praised its high quality and accuracy but has warned against giving free publicity to marginal opinions Marginal opinions like I don't know global warming is not real The genetics professor Steve Jones was asked to carry out the study by the BBC Trust. Citing issues such as global warming, genetically modified crops and the MMR vaccine he said there was a risk of providing false balance in the search for impartiality. The BBC has responded by announcing that it will appoint a science editor

1:19:11 Emma Jane Kirby reports. Please, report. Professor Steve Jones complained that corporation science coverage sometimes suffered from what he called the nervous tick of BBC News its commitment to always producing balanced reports with a range of opinions In a fact-based field like science, he said this led to reports with a false balance because it presented the views of minority groups as if they had the same weight as the scientific consensus. So let me just get this straight The science is in and don't be a denier, you should not have the same weight. So I guess if there's 10 guys saying genetically modified food is good for ya and 2 guys saying it's not you should get like 20 seconds this how they're gonna balance it out And the BBC is great! And the science is in and its all fact based! Shut up

CHAPTER 28 / 46 Discussion

CERN Cloud Experiment, Solar Activity and Climate

Scientists at CERN have reportedly found a link between cosmic rays and cloud formation, which could significantly impact global temperatures. The hosts claim that the director of CERN instructed researchers not to interpret the results to avoid conflicting with established global warming narratives. They suggest this information is being suppressed to protect carbon tax initiatives.

cern· cosmic rays· cloud formation· global warming· solar activity

1:20:10 Yeah, they did why obviously there's going to be it. There's an agenda of what can and cannot be discussed It's gonna come down from the government or somebody And then they're good then that's gonna essentially that is the balance so here's what it is We only talk about this we do not talk about the name This is another was there's no balance whatsoever yeah gets worse actually The science is in! Science! The CERN, which is the Swiss Research Center. This article showed up a lot of places actually apparently scientists determined that there is a very real link between something called cloud Cosmic's leaving outdoor droplets

1:21:03 uh... so based upon the solar activity creating more clouds which can dramatically increase the temperature on birth and uh... from what all the reports are saying this came from uh... developed online roles deter horror director of serb said i've asked my colleagues to present the results clearly but not to interpret them in other words let's not say anything about his because we need our carbon taxes so the science is presenting the facts but they're not being interpreted and it's not being reported on yeah i guess another school book there's another screwball science story floating around it was in today's new york times ended in the new york times as weird because they never discussed actually what's going on or why they just mention it to us actually a story i say eighteen if anyone is following along at home uh... scientist under inquiry resigns from harvard

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Marc Hauser, Harvard Falsification Scandal

Harvard behavioral psychologist Marc Hauser resigned following an inquiry into the falsification of data in his research on monkeys. The hosts find the New York Times coverage of the story vague and "screwy," noting that the specific nature of his wrongdoing was not clearly explained. They question why mundane research on baboons would lead to such a high-profile scandal.

marc hauser· harvard· behavioral psychology· baboons· data falsification

1:22:05 this guy who looks kinda like a sketchy character, Mark Houser. A behavioral psychologist is booted essentially out of Harvard and there's a good wiki entry to kind of just finally get to the bottom of it. It has to do with some monkey studies he was doing that he phonied up which I don't know...I read the article and I've read this entry in the wiki page M-A-R-C-H-U-S-E-R for people following along I do not see what...I can't understand it's something screwy about the story and i haven't been able to figure out. So what exactly is the story? What's going on? Well he got kicked out for falsifying information and doing some sketchy work supposedly but his background is so elaborate that, stuff is like borderline mundane

1:22:58 I don't know. I mean, I have no idea but it's like a big deal that this guy... Here is one of his papers right hemisphere dominance for emotion processing in baboons! I mean who cares? It's important stuff There is something screwy about this story and I don't know if we're going to get the bottom of it but what I noticed mostly was when I was in the New York Times there was no mention of what he actually did that was wrong and would get him kicked out why would the new york times report on it? falsifying data about baboons? that's bad, right? well maybe there is something to do with this story which i got from business insider one in sixty six americans are now on some form of anti-psychotic medicine. One in 66! anywhere you go there is some psycho next to ya who was on Abilify or

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Bristol City Council, Zombie Apocalypse Contingency Plan

The Bristol City Council released a document outlining contingency plans for a "zombie outbreak" in response to a Freedom of Information request. While the Guardian presented the story as a joke, the hosts discuss the trend of government agencies, including the CDC, using zombie scenarios for disaster preparedness. They debate whether these documents are purely tongue-in-cheek or serve a darker purpose.

bristol· zombie apocalypse· the guardian· cdc· contingency plans

1:23:57 Now what do we have? Zoloft or Xanax or whatever. It's like wow really That means at a sporting event where there are 66,000 people 1,000 of them are crazy. They're completely nuts And wasn't it I think was Bristol in the United Kingdom This is they always do this as a joke like haha funny but not really so they remember after the CDC did it as a joke and now they come out and they say uh... yeah we have a uh... plan for uh... zombie apocalypse i don't think this is a joke anymore peter hold service director of community communications in marketing said uh... in response to request last what do you mean what that your reading from something this is not an april fools joker not just of april notices from the guardian local authorities reveal top secret plan outlining self-defense strategies should zombies invade

1:24:59 Peter Holt, Service Director of Communication and Marketing for the City Council of Bristol said in response to your request for details on Bristol City Council's contingency plans for dealing with zombies I can now release you the following strategy document. This is bull crap! You're reading some joke from The Onion! No this is The Guardian...and they have a document Please note this document contains various redactions as it has been considered that some information contained therein must be redacted for the purpose of safeguarding national security. Mark's top secret, the document which has been published on the what do they know dot com site sets out four alert states ambient zombie level business-as-usual but be on a lookout for telltale signs I think we're kind of at that level now. Oh my! This is a gag you fell for No man its uh... I'm so good thank you

1:25:50 Guardian.co.uk, what are you talking about? This is not a gag! Well the Guardian's presenting it as a gag but I mean at what point is it-is it not funny? Is it real? So we have the enhanced activity level where there will be confirmed zombie attacks on the populace. A major outbreak, zombie infection level in excess of 1%, multiple sightings across the city and then these zombie pandemic level which consists of concentrated outbreak with infectious levels over 30%. I'm looking at the Guardian site right now and i've done a search for zombies. Yeah, I'm gonna send you the link through Skype! I'm happy to do it. And then finding nothing? Yeah, I'm happy to do it This is not... They always do this like it's a joke but I'm not treating it as such anymore Do you get it? No, I am understanding what you're saying but I don't see it on the-on the site. I just sent you the link through Skype. Yeah, I'm going there

1:26:51 To avoid widespread panic, staff are asked to listen for code words on radio and television broadcasts to warn them that a zombie attack is underway. Under Health & Safety the document urges staff to remember the correct zombie killing procedure. Quote, fully disconnect the brain stem from the body through either blunt force or full head removal." I'm telling you this is real. We're getting zombies, we're gonna get zombies! Do you see that? You see this? Yeah i'm looking at this now... This date line is July 7th and there's-I don't see any spoofing going on with the site. I don't get why-this is weird. It's weird that they would have just-i'm totally here with it listen who's Stephen Morris? Let's look him up

1:27:50 Stephen Moore looks like a zombie you can click on his link right we get stories from Steven Morris. Oh he does What else yeah, I got the end It says the training for handling pirate outbreaks and for spotting the difference between genuine hot-air balloons and evil giant floaty space aliens is kind of a giveaway that it's tongue-in-cheek. Yeah, but the City Council of Bristol... I mean why would you run this story at all? But why would the City Council of Bristol actually release a document that has this information in it and say it's a joke? Yeah, I know it doesn't make any sense And the CDC our very own Centers for Disease Control did the same thing So did Bristol think that the joke was so funny they had to do it again? I have no idea You'd have to ask them

CHAPTER 31 / 46 Discussion

Richard Cordray, Consumer Financial Protection Bureau

President Obama nominated Richard Cordray to lead the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, bypassing Elizabeth Warren who had been setting up the agency. The hosts highlight Cordray's background as a five-time Jeopardy! champion and former Attorney General of Ohio. They mock the "whole bunch of things" Obama claimed the agency is already doing for consumers.

richard cordray· elizabeth warren· barack obama· cfpb· jeopardy

1:28:46 Alright, well this is definitely gonna be in the show notes. Uh-huh I know it's sad isn't it? So something to make something yeah This one just really blew me away and see if I can bring this up so we have this consumer protection Consumer Financial Protection Agency which was being taken over and set up by elizabeth warren who i have by holding low regard everyone's like no she's on our side she's great he's gonna be awesome and i've been watching her testimony uh... their congressional testimony it's hours an hour's and she she doesn't come across very nice chicago she comes across as a do you think and she's the one if we remember we did have the clip which is all you know i was supposed to be scheduled something this afternoon this is my guy got out of town i want to help

1:29:43 uh... and uh... so she and she's getting hammered pretty hard by some of these uh... but some other representatives excuse me and that in a surprise move president obama turns around and nominate some other guy to run this agency so is out there in the rose garden with warren on who looking very demure but i guess she's she knew from the beginning that she was just supposed to do the uh... the frontline p r and then boom incomes as other guys cut bureaucracy one consumer watchdog in charge with just one job looking out for regular people in the financial system that's you when i slaves there's an idea that i got from elizabeth warren first met years ago

1:30:29 this is why i got a good practice that first met years ago long before the financial crisis along elizabeth was sounding the alarm on predatory lending and the financial pressures on middle-class families in the year since she's become perhaps bleeding voice in our country on behalf of consumers and let's face it she's she's done while facing some very tough opposition and drawing a fair amount he fortunately she's very tough that's why i asked elizabeth warren to set up this new bureau Over the past year, she has done an extraordinary job. Already the agency is starting to do a whole bunch of things that are going to be important for consumers. A whole bunch? A whole bunch of things! Hey John it's a whole bunch just a whole bunch. How much? A whole bunch?! A whole bunch man! Making sure loan contracts and credit card terms are simpler and written in plain English already thanks to leadership of the Bureau

1:31:24 uh... we're seeing men and women in uniform who are getting more protections against fraud and deception when it comes to financial practices as part of her charge i asked elizabeth to find the best possible choice for director of the bureau that's what we found enriching court all right richard cordray which is cordray if you look at his uh... book of knowledge page brought by he was uh... attorney general in ohio he's made several runs and had multiple positions uh... he's about my age i think maybe maybe even a little younger and uh... he adored the financial crisis he brought huge allegations against bank of america and i guess that didn't we did not succeed i don't think bank of america got any kind there's no one jail so great job richard fantastic but it has a claim to fame

1:32:17 Now, last but not least back in the 80s Richard was also a five-time Jeopardy champion. I can't hear it. Oh you can't hear it? Hold on... This is actually very soft clip let me see if I can boost a little bit or boost the levels You gotta hear it! Ash will boost me some levels Here we go. Uh output master game okay this should do it At least back in the eighties Richard was also a five time jeopardy champion and a semi finalist in the tournament of champions Not too shabby uh... that's why all his confirmation of all those answers at this confirmation hearings will be in the form of a question which you blew you blew the punchline yeah i blew the punch line and he had to say it was a joke and yet no last minute grim press corps but besides that are you kidding me the guy who is going on the consumer financial protection board is a jeopardy winner

CHAPTER 32 / 46 Discussion

Eurobonds, European Debt Crisis and Handshakes

The hosts discuss the potential implementation of "Eurobonds" to stabilize the European economy following Italy's debt downgrade. They clarify that Eurobonds are a specific financial instrument not limited to Europe. The segment also notes a "dead fish" handshake between Nicolas Sarkozy and Angela Merkel during their recent meeting on the crisis.

eurobonds· italy· angela merkel· nicolas sarkozy· debt crisis

1:33:22 And by the way, he's not a winner. He lost in the finals It's a bit much Well I don't know I do! It's one big party and we're not invited That's what i know Now in United States of Europe as predicted they are talking about these Euro bonds Because of course everything's falling down, Italy was downgraded. And I finally am starting to understand how this works If your debt is downgraded then you have to pay more interest on your loans By the way this is an eye opener for me because I'm only understanding this So if Italy pays...I think now they're up like 5 and a half percent

1:34:08 each percent that goes up is like twenty seven billion dollars a month or something it's like some outrageous amount to it this is how these uh... these bonds work and they're talking about doing the euro bond as the only way to save the union and one of our producers was kind enough to say you know your bonds not exactly what you think it is he sent me a definition in i don't know if you had a chance talk with horrors about this job did something you should be usually we would be able to tell us exactly how this instrument works I'll quote verbatim, a euro bond is usually issued by an international syndicate banks and categorized according to the currency in which it is denominated.

1:34:47 A Euro-dollar bond, that is denominated in US dollars and issued in Japan by an Australian company would be an example of a Eurobond. The Australian company in this example could issue the euro dollar bond in any country other than the U.S.. So Eurobond doesn't mean a bond of all of Europe it's a particular type of financial instrument that can be issued anywhere uh... in the denomination that the issuer wants They are attractive financing tools as they give issuers the flexibility to choose the country in which to offer their bond according to the country's regulatory constraints. They may also denominate their euro bond in their preferred currency. Euro bonds are attractive to investors because of small par values and high liquidity." So I guess we could be buying euro bonds in dollars that would be propping up the United States of Europe? Do you understand any of this

1:35:50 I couldn't follow a word of it. Great, all right so in other words the euro bond doesn't mean it's a bond that is only for Europe? It's like another trick And some other trick that people are trying to push in Eurobonds, here's the article here. Only a radical solution can stop the rot. Sarkozy and Merkel just had a meeting they did their secret little handshake which you can see in the video at 323.nashownotes.com where he squeezes her hand and she is holding it really limp this is like the... The old dead fish handshake! That's exactly what it is Dead Fish Handshake

1:36:29 uh... as i think this is about the euro bonds but it's not that they did the name is misleading all right well i will get discusses with more recent some detail and then we'll come out of it was some explanation that makes sense and builds to a crescendo of corruption show myself by doing you know what you have imagined all these people who could do that so yeah On no agenda In the morning We do have some people we want to thank for contributing to today's show. Including Joe Cool Design out of Princeton, Ontario Canada who jumps into the 111.11 club also and he is in there with Thomas Nussbaum or Noosebaum Sir Thomas as a matter fact Virginia Beach, Virginia. Did you see him? No no we didn't go by... did Thomas come to the meet up Sir Thomas

CHAPTER 33 / 46 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony, Producer Donations and Coins

The hosts acknowledge several high-level donors, including Sir Thomas and Sir Jason Stevens. They discuss "bumping rings" with knights of the show and exchange stories about collecting challenge coins and World Bank pens. David Rudolph Baker is thanked for his contribution toward the No Agenda iPad stands project.

sir thomas· sir jason stevens· challenge coins· world bank· donations

1:37:28 did sir thomas come to the meetup i don't think so from virginia beach no maybe he didn't in fredericksburg yeah maybe he did night with adam and mickey that's right now of course he has uh... the beautiful girlfriend right Yeah, okay. Yes of course he does is it he's a knight that's right now I remember bumping rings We have our own version of this actually you and him you and Thomas actually we bumped rings I Think Minky bumped rims rings with him when I wasn't looking yeah, man we have our own joke in there so yeah exactly our own no agenda fisting

1:38:06 Jason Stevens, Sir Jason Stevens New York New York hundred dollars I want to be crossing the border dealing with a TSA ice and Homeland Security if you can throw some karma my way grace greatly appreciate it. You've got karma It's also added some domains to forwarders I don't believe we mentioned. BingeFlying.com and WeMustWinTheFuture.com Oh no, and America... what is this? America... Naturalized.com AmericaRenaturalize.com Re- oh Renaturalize and also TeamOS2! And by the way Sir Thomas he gave me a beautiful challenge coin from Iraq so here's another one for you

1:38:52 Okay, well we're both collecting a lot of stuff for the other guy. I got the coins in the mail. Josh, I just have to thank him on next show. The Dutch coins that have the barcode on the back? Oh you got some? I've got two of them yeah one for you. Well I have a silver dollar for ya Yeah, you know we're on phone. We should meet up one of these days and like a swap stuff I also have a World Bank pen for you oh Now that I could go full yeah, it was given the two world bank in the World Bank and grab some of their pens It's already been done. You just need to pad to go with it, and you could sign prescriptions Here have a billion

1:39:38 David Rudolph Baker from parts unknown $66.66 to sell no agenda iPad stands calm no agenda iPad stands Plural dot-com beautiful handcrafted iPad stands with a kick ass no agenda logo for 33 pounds compatible with the iPad one and two Kindles and iPhones. Did we mention this already? 33 euros, yeah no I mentioned it at the top of the show. Yeah right 33 euros not pounds about the same now. Not quite. 66% getting close to 66% in profits how are we talking about this birthday call out on my 21st would be awesome will do that yep Allison Hamill and Brandon Mississippi a little gas money for the 2008 Hot Pockets Tour

CHAPTER 34 / 46 Discussion

Healthcare Costs, Birthday Shoutouts

A listener reports a $3,300 bill for six stitches at an emergency room, prompting a discussion on rising healthcare costs. The hosts read several birthday shoutouts for producers and their family members. Curry mentions the upcoming route for the Hot Pockets tour, which will eventually return to Virginia.

healthcare· obamacare· er costs· birthdays· hot pockets tour

1:40:21 Now hopefully if it stops between Nolens and Sibyl, sip in the sip Mississippi I'll meet up. Oh you're gonna go to New Orleans? Yeah yeah we're going to New Orleans no islands here Nolans Nolans You like is very pretty town yep I've been I haven't been since Katrina but i've been okay hold on one second Well there's something else here that says uh... Yeah read that, read that for me before I do something. I can confirm health care costs are through the roof about a month ago i cut my hand after hours so ended up in the ER and got six stitches for the IN YOUR FACE cost of thirty three hundred dollars oh yeah baby! The magic numbers only six stitches next time I'll be using electrical tape thanks alot Obamacare

1:41:17 Okay, I'm trying to dig something out of here. Anthony Cozumano, hey Adam and John he's a new donor by the way. I didn't remember to just send my cash at the first meetup so here is two nickels on the dime uh... tunicles on the elite for a deducing only also want to delete deduce him right now and he's been t do you also wish my brother john happy birthday in july twenty second hope you like it bro because this is your present but that they had worked i hope you can make it out of for the end of the hot pockets tour thank you very much uh... tony from uh... the end of the hot pockets to are going to be well it eventually will be back in virginia at their bareness maggie's a driveway where we started okay yeah yet we have to drop the red bag off the way starting to make sense to me no dog

1:42:11 tony's from a king george uh... virginia we have david cpu no stranger to the support of the show i'd like to wish uh... my douche bag twin brother don happy birthday return thirty six on friday thanks to him always look like a douchebag how about a rick perry double shots are ok this is a let's see if you can do that for you and audio smoke openly young douche bag double shot with paris uh... from uh... david for his uh... twin brother don And then we have from Cyprus, Alexander Lykov or Lee-Kov in the morning dugs.

CHAPTER 35 / 46 Discussion

Cyprus Explosion, Oil Interests and Geopolitics

An explosion of confiscated Iranian weapons at a Cypriot army base destroyed the island's main power plant. The hosts speculate that the conflict in Cyprus is driven by a massive "oil strike" and the interests of Russia and Turkey. They analyze Hillary Clinton's support for Greek austerity as a move that aligns with Turkish interests in the region.

cyprus· iran· turkey· hillary clinton· oil strike

1:42:48 Greetings from Cyprus here's some petrol money for Adam, $53.53 Please check out the situation in Cyprus as well we had an explosion of confiscated Iranian weapons that were lying in an army base Explosion wiped out the electricity plant that was nearby and producing about 60% of the island's electricity By the way, Cyprus is one of few countries not affected by the credit crunch at least until the explosion Yeah I have been watching Of course Cyprus has always been a highly contested region and uh... i would say that uh... that's not the you might have preferred the credit crisis over them of blowing up stuff but we are in fact i haven't show clip that might be a is five minutes long it's from sarbanes they can get from serving soxy going on and on about cypress yeah there's all this something that must be golden then held hills or something that something going on inside your oil manhattan hose and i would be it

1:43:45 Who's always fighting for Cyprus? Is Greece and who else is fighting? Well, Turkey is the one that's the bad actor apparently according to our people. Right And it's interesting because if you listen to that clip or want to listen to that clip what's interesting is that apparently the EU presidency I think in the next go-round will be Cyprus And Turkey says they're going to boycott the EU and tell everyone to screw themselves if they go through with it. Oh, now it makes so much sense because Lucifer was in Istanbul she comes out she says hey you know I support the Greek austerity measures So she's totally on the turkey side

1:44:30 Oh she's on the turkey side. Yeah! That's interesting because Sarbanes is on the Cypriot side. Uh-huh hold on let me hear something up yeah there is let me play the Lucifer just real quick it'll be worth it when we play the Lucifer clip about Greece Come on, Lucifer. The United States strongly supports the Papandreou's government's determination to make the necessary reforms to put Greece back on sound financial footing and to make Greece more competitive economically. Committing to bring down the deficit and passing the medium-term fiscal strategy were vital first steps

1:45:09 We know these were not easy decisions. They were acts of leadership, and those acts of leadership will help to build a better economic future Now the challenge will be to keep moving forward with the same determination and commitment. To make good on the fiscal targets, and continue to deliver reform that drives future growth." So here's the way I see it She she's there with Pop Andrews who we know was educated in wasn't he educated in Philadelphia? He speaks perfect English. Yeah I think it was Minnesota wasn't it? It could have been Minnesota The guy is a perfect shill

1:45:48 So it's like, hey we gotta screw Greece. I'll betcha prediction red book time huge oil strike in Cyprus Yeah okay i'm not gonna give oh yeah Well, I said oil a few minutes ago so i'm not gonna give you a full...I'm going to take half of that one. No we can both be on a prediction there's nothing wrong with that. I hate to do that. Oil strike in or around Cyprus it's got to be huge and and that's why stuff is blowing up then we need the security in there we need the blue helmets or someone's gotta move in and protect uh...the population from the evil al-qaeda

CHAPTER 36 / 46 Discussion

Producer Credits, The Train Whistle

The hosts read a list of producers who have contributed to the show, including Sir Lawrence, who had to cancel his recurring payment due to financial hardship. They discuss the "de-douching" of new donors and the "must-win-the-future" meme. Dvorak brings out a physical train whistle to celebrate the "all aboard" spirit of the donor community.

sir lawrence· sean paladino· jeffrey anderson· train whistle· donations

1:46:30 the al-qaeda's so i can read the next line and identify sir lawrence innocent note on the other hand i have no yeah i have a note from sir laurence okay as you look into that is with heavy heart i have to tell you that i canceled my one hundred eleven dollar eleven cent payments from paypal today wouldn't do it unless really necessary and things are that bad i'm afraid I'll be back on track ASAP and backfill what i owe you on the plan. Please give me a quick karma shout out on Thursday's show if you don't mind my friend we're going to give you not a quick one but a full-blown karma, You deserve it my friend! You've got Karma It's rough that's rough Sir Larry has been a great sponsor of the show so he is a great guy yeah and it's unfortunate but he'll be back anyway shot at the go room going back to their thing run thanks Sean Paladino or palladino

1:47:19 Yeah, haven't done them yet. Yeah it's Cinemisif brother what kind of a town name is this? Cinnamonson New Jersey which was not synonym senate namsen said that i would have been a citizen of the citizen he he wouldn't like did that being get to intelligent independent viewpoints about the world from her show you likes that no agenda and democracy now multiple times a week what's uh... many ways is it has been dropped a point here as a counterpoint you guys are more anti-government well democracy now is more anti corporation where intake

1:47:57 We're not anti-anything, actually. No we're not... Anti douchebags I think is the only thing we are Exactly nice contrasting views to keep me informed about the world i've been listening your show for a month uh after my believe me after two months uh sean you won't be listening to democracy yeah it'll go time he needs a de-douching for waiting so long to donate fifty dollars you've been dedouched all right man thank you appreciate Also, Jeffrey Anderson in Philadelphia Pennsylvania $50.50 in the morning John and out is my first donation in a mentionable amount so I would like to receive another deducing Almost hit the double shot karma

1:48:40 you know, kind of a double shot. He's a land and new job as part of the must must much sought after change or change of careers all the best to both of you and safe travels to Adam on the Hot Pockets Across America 2008 tour there is too much to ask for everyone to please rise for playing in the National Anthem we'll play that at some point yes This is Brad, excellent. Bradley Sir Boo enables Florida 50 Donald Martin in Atlantic Beach Florida $50 George Yard sir Black Knight George Vanderhorst in Cats Home Netherlands. Cat's Hovel! Yeah it's a hovel for cats that's right. $50 and here's sir Chris Gielen. Hey John and Nat

1:49:32 President Obama doesn't know when his skip logic is programmed wrong. Translation, President Obama no longer knows what his birthday is because his skip logic has been incorrectly programmed. I thought i nailed it! Yeah close! Megan Upson in Tukwila Washington uh Tukwila sorry Tukwila

1:50:23 Thought that yeah in the morning to you, please give producer credit and a big shot of coming my husband Eric Upson for his birthday We got him down. I also want to mention Karma just giving him the karma And you also put did we have a make good for Joseph Costello? Can you put him down as a belated birthday from July 17th from is from his daughter Mary How did we screw that up? I, we talked about it and you forgot about it but anyway. From his daughter Mary okay I got it. Joseph Costello. Tim Humer in Pelzer South Carolina should be able to track him down he's right there he is right next door

1:51:05 Yeah. Here's a donation for the gas fund for the Hot Pockets Tour, it's $50 which would be good for a few gallons I missed the meetup in Asheville or sometimes known as Sheeville If the tour comes close by again he is in South Carolina there Tim I would like to request that Toot from The Train Whistle from John keep up the great work Uh...I have The Train Whistle on the shelf but I'll go grab and hang on all aboard trains good, planes bad. Nice! It's back in play alright so that'll be it for these producers Alright then one more producer that I already mentioned as a Hot Pockets producer That would be... let me just get it here Ciro Pecchirio

CHAPTER 37 / 46 Discussion

Karma Stories, Stolen Gear and Birthdays

Several "karma stories" are shared, including a listener who received seven job proposals after a shoutout. Conversely, a listener in Virginia reports being robbed of his electronics, and the hosts offer him "corrective karma." The segment concludes with a final list of birthdays and a mention of pending podcast licenses.

karma· robbery· birthdays· knighthood· podcast licenses

1:52:00 uh... one hundred dollars a for gas money for the hot pockets two thousand eight or we highly appreciate that i have a couple other quick karma stories so we already talked about this early which it totally sucks uh... and did get one from my john davis junior as one of the you know gender karma since you bestowed me with your bestowed bestowed bestowed me with your massive karma had seven job proposals seven We also managed to lower our payments, get a bigger vehicle. A 2004 Toyota Sienna So I'll be able to tell you that your karma really works You and John will be getting money from me as soon as i get my new job To provide more for my little slaves Bad news

1:52:43 uh... from uh... sam jones from virginia this is a should crappy story adamant sam from virginia we had said such a great time meeting you and making all the listeners however that by the weekend in and will when my brother matt drove back to newport news sunday night he was robbed in front of his apartment building as it was getting out of his car they took his wallet phone ipod and macbook on requesting some karma forms open hopefully find the perps and deal with him appropriately you've got karma. uh... we have the lovely night rings for those of you who are reach knighthood status and i've heard a lot of people on the trip so far as they look at the ring and say wow you know i'd really want to get one of those but is kind of that the pinnacle love support for other programs let me uh... mind control your first second devorah slash in

1:54:02 Here we go with the birthday list starting right off with a faux pas on our part, mine I guess. Joseph Costello his birthday was on the 17th of July his daughter Mary sent in a donation and congratulations for him so sorry Joseph but you know what You're getting old anyway. Happy birthday to you, my friend and from your daughter Mary. Anthony Cosimano is brother John's birthday is on the 22nd of July happy birthday to you David T Pugh says happy birthday to himself and his twin douchebag brother Don who turns 36 on Friday Megan Upson congratulates her husband Eric Upson and David Backer or Bucker turns 31 today! Happy Birthday from all your friends here at The No Agenda Show

1:54:47 nice unfortunately no knighthoods but as we said uh... came up a little bit short also the podcast licenses i am behind on dishing them out but uh... the thirty three zero being in your work yeah and well does it mean you know what because of which is that when he backed into the meat grinder so i guess that's it we're done now i don't think so Well let me start the second part of the show with going to what I believe now is the code page on The New York Times which is page 10.

CHAPTER 38 / 46 Discussion

World Briefing, Hugo Chavez and Gaddafi

The hosts review international news from the New York Times, including Hugo Chavez's cancer diagnosis and the possibility of Muammar Gaddafi staying in Libya. They discuss the "interlocutor" role of the Transitional National Council in Libya and the loss of citizenship for 1,800 people in Canada due to fraud.

hugo chavez· gaddafi· libya· canada· berlusconi

1:55:29 and just read the sick of all stories for you that you didn't hear about anything. You know we have one guy in... you mentioned this some shows ago how about none other world's great leaders ever get cancer or have any problems, right? And of course Hugo Chavez has got apparently nut cancer something with a tumor the size of baseball He is blaming Hillary I read an article that he was on his TV show saying that all of the evil people in the State Department had given me cancer This would be your theory too. The Kazakhstan guy, the Kazakh chief is said to be in Germany after surgery that's a top story on the upper page of A10 also US stepping back taking bigger role in mid east peace push and here's one that I thought was interesting again on the same page France says Gaddafi could stay in Libya if he agrees to give up his power Yeah you know that uh... the state department had a meeting

1:56:28 With Gaddafi's guys, did you know that no? Yeah, they had a meeting I do there with his guys yeah now with him But we yeah with his yeah with these guys and the spokesholes And then Lucifer comes out again and confirms that the TNC is our eloquence or whatever it is collaborator was that word interlocutor interlocular interlocutor yeah interlocutor which i don't know why didn't just say our buddies and uh and we're going to give them all the money that we stole so that they can

1:57:09 There's actually a very interesting quote so that they can uphold all of their contracts. So I guess the whole idea is you go in, you kick out the guy who is keeping the profit then you get couple shills in there and make them the government which effectively what has happened. You plant a European flag in Benghazi saying okay here we are. You give those guys billions of dollars and then you take the profit from their own money I know it's hilarious. It's a good system. You gotta, you just got to admire it. On the same page there's a little section of World Briefing which are the shorter stories that need to be talked about. Italy, two setbacks for Berlusconi France has delayed another nuke reactor 1800 people just lost their citizenship in Canada Oh really? Yeah, few were scammed away into citizenship and didn't pay the big bucks like you're supposed to And then deadly quake hits in three nations and then on page 11 you got food crisis

CHAPTER 39 / 46 Discussion

Kyrgyzstan Earthquake, Vatican Pedophile Cover-up

A 6.3 magnitude earthquake hit Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan, which the hosts link to "earthquake machine" theories. In Ireland, the parliament has blamed the Vatican for covering up pedophile cases. The hosts suggest this may be an extortion tactic by the Irish government to force the Vatican to help with bank bailouts.

kyrgyzstan· earthquake· vatican· ireland· pedophilia

1:58:11 Somalia is a famine says the United Nations. Yeah, hold on two things so first Kyrgyzstan got hit by an earth but and it is the earthquake machine once again only like you know very shallow very shallow earthquake 6.3 I believe now we remember that Kyrgyzstan was on the map that was even in the uh... in the video game call of duty was a call of duty the new one that has kyrgyzstan we're all gonna go to kurdistan as where that's what's all happening yeah it's a point two magnitude earthquake rumbled incurred is anchored in least thirteen people uh... a little more than half-a-mile deep so i says according to times at thirteen people were killed in news back astan and nobody was killed encourages said stan this is from uh... u p i

1:59:01 Interesting. Well, there's a discrepant piece of information then yeah indeed which might have some some Some I don't know might mean something maybe Anyway that's kind of like the top line. I know code news. I don't know what what the code is There's also last story in ireland parliament blames vatican for covering up pedophile cases and that to me just says that the irish are gonna stick the vatican with a bill because they're going to prop up their banks as if it had been a bank. well how does that work? we say, if you guys don't pay up we'll tell about all the kitty prawns you've been propagating is that how works? that's probably...it probably is an extortion thing behind it yeah why not

CHAPTER 40 / 46 Discussion

Afghanistan Banking, Missing Billions and the American Dream

Wolf Blitzer and CNN report on billions of US taxpayer dollars missing in Afghanistan due to a lack of oversight in the banking system. Senator Claire McCaskill notes that lessons from "pallets of cash" in Iraq have not been learned. The hosts contrast these missing billions with President Obama's rhetoric about the "American Dream" of just getting by.

afghanistan· central bank· claire mccaskill· government waste· american dream

1:59:47 So CNN has a new shill for the Pentagon. I forget the guy's name, but he is on all the time now and he keeps talking about sources my sources in the pentagon and we know how this works yeah you have a source it's called your handler only you don't know it and he's not naming these sources and well there's just so much going on two things number one And this of course is to help propagate the message that Karzai, that's the guy who wears the calf fetus hat on his head who was the president of Afghanistan won't allow the United States primarily to take over their central bank.

2:00:30 So here's how Wolf Blitzer and this douche, here is how they talk about it. Billions at billions of US taxpayer dollars missing in Afghanistan! Billions! Billions of dollars! Billions! John, how many? Billions. Billions of dollars, it just... make sure you heard it! Billions of dollars hello? Do you hear the billions? The details for us Chris at a time of economic difficulty and they're looking to save money all of a sudden billions billions in Afghanistan what's going on Yeah, well basically this federal law that shows that about 10 years in the US still only has limited visibility of what happens to billions of dollars once we send it to Afghanistan. Billions? Billions! Senator Claire McCaskill who's been tracking government waste in these contracts... She gives it away by the way. For several years she gives it away

2:01:25 We had pallets of cash walk away in Iraq. And I was hopeful, after doing a lot of oversight in Iraq that we had learned a lot of lessons from that This report says all those lessons have not been learned because clearly we have to be able to track the currency as it flows to contractors and subcontractors The lack of cooperation in the Afghanistan banking system is not helping us with our oversight responsibility Are we stupid or what? Billions and billions, and billions and billions. Pallets full of money! Meanwhile... We're living the American dream everybody The American Dream Of Just Getting By In fact I think it's time to play that part from our president one more time just so you know let me repeat

2:02:14 billions and billions and billions of dollars being handed out to government contractors shredding computers doing whatever they want in sand, killing people. And here at home... In the end the folks I hear from in letters or meet when I travel across the country they aren't asking for much They're just looking for a job that covers their bills. They are looking for a little financial security That's right! They wanna know that if they work hard and live within their means everything will be alright They'll be able to get ahead and give their kids a better life. That's the dream each of us has for ourselves and our families. That's right, John that is my dream! Every time I hear that I get so irked. That is so pathetic It's my dream. That's what the president thinks of the public Yeah yeah it's American Dream just getting by screw you we're gonna give all this money away meanwhile We're gonna give it to the bankers

CHAPTER 41 / 46 Discussion

Infrastructure Scams, Carmageddon Bonus

The hosts discuss the state of US infrastructure, noting that Southern states often have better roads due to "pork barrel" projects. They criticize the "Carmageddon" event in Los Angeles as a scam where contractors received millions in bonuses for finishing a job quickly that was intentionally over-scheduled.

potholes· interstate system· carmageddon· construction bonuses· california

2:03:08 bullcrappers in iraq and we're gonna lose a lot of it we don't get out there with that on the ground will lose its all i'd yeah that's right billions and billions and billions not to mention the potholes on the highway in this country at uh... john c davora actually gotta say the interstate system rocks Only down there. Highway 80 outside of my house here is an interstate system and it's filled with potholes Yeah, you go down to Alabama where all his pork barrel projects ended up And yeah You can drive down some six lane road with nobody on it nothing smooth as can be but so what that's just a scam It's nice driving roads down at the south Where's the good roads in California where they've taken all our money? Yeah well shut up slave

2:03:57 It's great down here. Look at the traffic down in Southern California Hey, how was Carmageddon by the way? I didn't hear anything How did it end? Turns out it was another scambola One of these deals where oh we're gonna have to shut down or they're gonna Oh a little bonus you if you can get the job done faster uh... job that i have to time and you know if you do millions of extra dollars are all your kidding me and everyone's not done that time in time again time in time again this goes on uh... man really they offer the bonus they get the job done and then record-time and take them on it and they spent millions of dollars getting everyone to tell everyone to stay away so that they could actually do their job and play some golf while by hand at all scam

CHAPTER 42 / 46 Discussion

Terror Warnings, Insider Threats and Al-Qaeda Recruitment

ABC News and Richard Clark report on potential "insider threats" to US nuclear and chemical plants. The warnings suggest that Al-Qaeda is recruiting "disgruntled employees" through its online magazine, Inspire. The hosts mock the timing of these warnings, which coincide with the ten-year anniversary of the September 11 attacks.

terror warning· richard clark· al-qaeda· insider threat· inspire magazine

2:04:42 So, um... New report out John! New report. Be very very afraid everybody! We got some terror, terror terror terror! Be afraid! Terror terror terror! A terror warning. Thousands of our most critical facilities including nuclear power plants on alert after US officials say some may have already been penetrated by potential terrorists trying to pull an inside job I love it Penetrated by potential terrorists trying to pull and inside job Great line great script writing that deserves an Emmy for the compromised ABC News.

2:05:29 The hundreds of chemical plants, oil refineries and power plants in this country provide a tempting target for terrorists. A tempting target for terrorists? Tempting target for terrorists today! Do they understand that this is like script writing 101 You do that, you always do that. Yeah! That's what we do. If you come up with an alliteration, you always do it is just a rule. Tempting target for terrorists 333 Especially if an insider helps There are lot of very sensitive facilities where someone can get a job on the inside Can get access to control room Flip a switch And boom!!!

2:06:09 uh... which causes a power grid to short circuit. You know what? It's not terrorists, douche! It's our people can actually flip those switches just so you know. Causes of pipeline to explode. Homeland Security intelligence report issued this week by the way it said this is Richard Clark who was talking obviously. Oh Richard Clark is such a... This guy! Listen listen and they got another... They're all consultants are all part of this cabal insider threat to utilities warns that violent extremists have in fact obtained insider position. If someone were determined and had the right access, the amount of damage they could inflict could affect thousands of lives

2:06:51 The US was stunned last year after the arrest in Yemen of an alleged American recruit to Al-Qaeda, Sharif Mowbli of New Jersey who it turned out had been employed at five different U.S nuclear power plants in and around Pennsylvania able to pass federal background checks Many of these al Qaeda sympathizers can pass background checks because there's nothing on file anywhere that says They're an Al-Qaeda sympathizer living here in the United States. There you go, that's Richard Clark! You could be an al Qaeda sympathizer living here in the United States Important information for the next clip Documents found in the compound of Osama bin Laden A treasure trove Showing he was pushing for a major attack in the US to match the scale of 9 11 Because he is totally stupid and thinks that's the great time to do it when everyone on high alert That's when we are going to pull a fast one they'll never know what came

2:07:44 And Al-Qaeda has already put the word out for recruits in its online magazine called Inspire. Did you read your monthly copy of Inspire, John? Did you see the recruit ad? No, I stopped reading that piece of crap some time back but actually started it again because obviously that's where they have all their classified ads in the back and then... corrects let the program to plan to do this and that is all in there they just so you know yet when i listen to be actually have i think they're going to quote the ad looking for brothers of ours who have specialized expertise and those who work insensitive locations yeah this is good wanted help wanted brothers-in-arms who had worked in places of sensitive expertise respond to al shababi wabi dabi

2:08:33 Please do not contact this poster with commercial information. Photos upon request. Yeah, that's just a part of the ad for the mop man in the Peek Show show facility. Homeland Security says it has no specific credible threats for any... Oh here is the disclaimer One utility but that operators should understand their employees especially disgruntled ones... Oh! ...should be targeted as recruitment saboteurs Robin. you could be a disgruntled greg saboteur saboteurs disgruntled if you got a job in this country why would you be disgruntled about anything and listen to robin who actually comes back hard to believe we're coming up on the ten year anniversary of 9-11 oh that's right, a lot of concern about what might happen yeah nothings happened it's hard to believe that were coming up on 10 years and nothing has happened even though the whole population has been sedated

CHAPTER 43 / 46 Discussion

Al-Qaeda Leadership, Corporate Merger Rhetoric

CNN analysts describe the transition of Al-Qaeda leadership to Ayman al-Zawahiri using corporate terminology, comparing it to a bank merger. The hosts argue this rhetoric is a "sales job" for private security firms like Xe (formerly Blackwater). They also touch on the "oil dollar" connection in Cyprus involving Russian oil firms.

ayman al-zawahiri· osama bin laden· cnn· blackwater· corporate merger

2:09:23 badgered and crap crapped on by the tsa and nothing's happened recruitment as saboteurs robin something to keep in mind hard labor coming up on a ten-year anniversary not only that's right along with concern about what might happen between now and then tell you what might happen between now and then we'd like to expect lady expecting it can't take advantage of the and it gets better it gets better because remember how long they were talking about uh... the al qaeda now have a new c e l I'm telling you. So this is now, this is... Chairman? The new chairman and CEO I believe. No it was just CEO. So now... Who's the chairman? Well whatever! So here's this douche guy from uh we gotta stop saying that but unfortunately they all are who's on CNN who get his handler passes on this information to him he just he treats it like it's a multinational corporation with the verbiage she's using

2:10:20 Well, Brooke the homeland is always going to be under threat of attack but... Always. Just so you know John it's always going to be under a threat of attack. Always! I can barely hear it. This is the only problem I have with uh potting up a bit for ya okay hold on You just gotta hear this guy he's outrageous Well, look the homeland is always going to be under threat of attack but Americans abroad may have more reason to worry under Al Qaeda's new leadership. New leadership? Here's why

2:10:57 to his last day Osama bin Laden was obsessed with staging a spectacular attack here in the United States. Spectacular! But his successor, Ayman al-Zawahiri officials tell us is more willing to stage regional attacks overseas going after diplomats US military installations even companies western companies and Americans working abroad uh... some of those companies may not have the security procedures that some u.s. institutions would have you know what that is that's a total uh... sales job for uh... z and then it formally known as blackwater we need more security more uh... more government sponsored armies private armies and probably some machines in these two machines

2:11:41 on the buildings that people have to worry about of course reasons for this one security is beefed up here and officials say you need a more specialized operative to crack american security today uh... another reason is that al-qaeda has been dealt a few setbacks you look at what Osama bin Laden brought to the table and he had a tremendous amount of patience. He would nurture a plot for years and years, whereas if you look at the last couple plots... The Christmas Day bomber whose explosives started smoldering on board the plane. Not onboard the plane in his crotch and let people subdued the times square bomber from last year whose explosive failed to detonate yet another guy that wasn't stopped by security but by a huge human resources they had not been provided sufficient amount of training to do work those improvised explosive devices

2:12:30 You may have a less capable, rushed sort of operation out there. And so that may lead to more regional attacks more aligned with some of the Al Qaeda affiliates. Ah! Regional affiliates in what they have in mind? Let me ask you... Now do you can hear CNN's new background noise They have, they've taken a turn on the old ticker tape. You remember when you see the teletype in the background of newsroom? So now they have like a John C. Dvorak keyboard tab. Listen carefully. If you will to the home office and satellite office, you have Al Qaeda and you obviously very powerful op shoot al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula any chance Chris these groups will be locking arms joining forces more powerful force

2:13:13 there was some talk about uh... some reports actually of uh... as a war he merging virginia with on wire allah lucky one of the key figures about kind in the review peninsula by us official we spoke with doesn't really see that is as well uh... this idea of a merger for all intents and purposes al-qaeda in al qaeda in the arabian peninsula they've been work together or they are already allies so in some respects there are even better and as for the two men themselves their very different they come from very different background it's like talking about a merger banks

2:13:50 It's just like... it's exactly like talking about a merger of banks. This is crap! These people should be ashamed of themselves because they say that, somebody called me out on saying that too often Yeah and I said you know what? What am i supposed to say? Why don't you make an noagendaashamedofyou.com site and document it Of course this guy did unknown person inside the Pentagon tells us they're merging a merger sorts here we've got regional activity who've got affiliates what was it gonna makes super al-qaeda al-qaeda lc uh... it's not that there is a clip here is the senate and i can i can edit super al qaeda nlc by the way uh... this just in for mister oil he says the whole thing in cyprus it's not the oil it's the oiled dollar he says ninety five percent of all russian oil companies have affiliate firms or sister firms in cypress in some places cypresses populated only by russians

CHAPTER 44 / 46 Discussion

Congressman Sarbanes, Cyprus Occupation Speech

Congressman John Sarbanes delivers a speech on the 37th anniversary of the Turkish invasion of Cyprus. He cites violations of religious freedom and the continued occupation of "ghost towns" like Famagusta. Sarbanes calls for the reunification of the island and criticizes Turkey's "zero problems" foreign policy as a failure.

john sarbanes· cyprus· turkey· religious freedom· famagusta

2:14:52 That turned, that twisted it into something new. Doesn't it? That twists things a little bit. That turns it around. So thats why Lucifer would be siding with Turkey Yeah! But why Sarbanes what is Sarbane... Now I didn't think it was important to play that clip We're gonna play it now Well, it's a long clip. You have to play it at the end of the show because we can't sit here through five minutes of this four minutes and 30 seconds is really a long clip why not? Why don't we just listen to it all right listen to us you got something yeah It's worth it The chair recognizes the gentleman from Maryland Mr.. Sarbanes for five minutes mr. Speaker I rise today as I do each year on the anniversary of Turkey's unlawful invasion of Cyprus

2:15:37 to again call upon Turkish authorities to end the 37-year military occupation of this island nation. The tragic history of the occupation is well documented, sadly with each passing year still more indignities are visited upon the Cypriot people on Christmas morning 2010 A large number of Orthodox Christians made their way to the St. Synesios Church. During the prayer service, the Turkish occupation authorities barged into the church, drove out the worshippers and sealed the doors of the building. This was an assault on religious freedom. A few months ago on May 2nd, Turkish occupation authorities demolished

2:16:33 the 200-year old chapel of Saint Thecla, located in the village of Vokholida. This too was an assault on religious freedom. These are among countless examples of the systematic repression and destruction of the Orthodox Christian faith that is carried on by Turkish authorities on the island." The United States Commission on International Religious Freedom The body that is tasked by this Congress on the state of religious freedom throughout the world, in terms of advising us on that situation reports that gross violations of religious freedom occur in areas under control of Turkish occupation authorities.

2:17:20 Turkey's Foreign Minister, the Honourable Ahmet Davutoglu has proclaimed that Turkey's foreign policy is rooted in the doctrine of quote zero problems with its neighbours unquote. Unfortunately the fruits of this doctrine appear to be wholly absent in Turkey's relations with the Republic of Cyprus under the auspices of the United Nations turkey agreed as a confidence building measure in 1979 to withdraw and hand over the uninhabited city of Famagusta to its rightful inhabitants. Despite the annual calls of the United Nations for Turkey and Turkish occupation authorities to honor this agreement, Famagusta remains a ghost town."

2:18:07 The international community continually demands the withdrawal of the overwhelming Turkish military presence on Cyprus. However, the Turkish occupation authorities have not even considered a reduction in military troops. As a candidate country seeking accession to the European Union Turkey has been advised to open its air and sea ports to the Republic of Cyprus as a condition for the further negotiation of the accession chapters. Turkey, nonetheless refuses to open its ports to Cypriot flagged vessels." Cyprus will hold the presidency in the second half of 2012. Rather than seize this opportunity to put its quote zero problems doctrine into effect Foreign Minister Davutoglu just the other day

2:19:03 threatened the European Union that Turkey will freeze relations with that body when the Republic of Cyprus holds its presidency. Mr Speaker, this is not the conduct of a country serious about joining the family of democratic nations The United States, the European Union and the United Nations all call for a just and lasting settlement that reunifies Cyprus as a bi-zonal, bi-communal federation. After 37 years of broken promises, it is high time that this chamber demand that Turkey conduct itself in accordance with the standards and values expected of a democracy, a member of NATO and a candidate country of the European Union. I yield back my time." So if we take into mind that Lucifer wants Greece dead...

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Cyprus Geopolitics, Russian Influence and Tourism

The hosts deconstruct the geopolitical situation in Cyprus, noting its strategic proximity to Syria and Lebanon. They discuss the heavy Russian influence on the island and the potential for a "religious war" narrative. A first-hand report describes Cyprus as a "horrible place" dominated by loud Russian tourists.

cyprus· russia· syria· bruce sterling· religious wars

2:20:00 And she's in there saying, oh I love Istanbul. It's my favorite city! I party and she got her hair done What does this tell you about the Russians and the Chinese? I don't know There's a couple of interesting memes that came up here I want to mention just to throw it into trying to deconstruct what's going on here First of all Fon Lugusta is a ghost town why He mentioned it twice and there's a ghost some town they've taken everybody out of the town. And they occupy, there is nobody living in their okay? What is that all about and what does he mean by bi-zonal and bi-communal? Oh its kind like bi-curious only with toilet brushes Apparently Now funny thing was I you know I was interviewing Bruce Sterling when I was doing Big Thinker show and we talked about visiting Cyprus

2:20:56 And he said, we actually made the comment that he's going to try and travel less because it was such a harrowing experience that you could almost get killed. Apparently its not a good tourist place You can get killed there! Okay now that would rank low on my places to visit in that case Anyway, and then Sarbanes is trying to turn into a religious wars thing because he never said it but let's face it He was hinting at it Christians were being rousted by Turks. Oh wait a minute Muslims So this whole story, this Cyprus thing is got so much... it's so shrouded in kind of obscure information memes and all the rest of it that there's something going on there. I guess has been going on for a while and nobody pays much attention to because it's been established since the 70s I guess? It's weird! Mr. Oyl just said to top it off Russians don't need visas to travel to Cyprus and just hop on the plane

2:21:54 So Russia owns Cyprus? Yeah, literally. Except for the Turks... I don't know. How far is uh so how where does Cyprus lie in relation to Syria nowhere near? Nowhere yeah there you go! I don't know but we're doing some deals with the Russians that's for sure We're definitely doing deals with the Russian and it must be to combat China i don't see any other way anyway I just find that this is very, I don't know what to make of it. Let me just wind up with some great Haiti news? Before you do that, well before you do that i want to take a look at the proximity... Okay Cyprus is interesting because its well ya know, right off the coast of Syria! Why did I tell ya?!

2:22:45 What do you know? Cyprus is between Turkey, which is north of Syria and it's also the northern border. There you go! And essentially its across from Lebanon. It's also close to Lebanon, Syria. So strategically it's great. Hold on a second. Miki have been to Cyprus you said? Come you gotta come closer, otherwise we can't hear. You got to talk here. It's just a horrible place I jump into the pool and the only thing i see is like 25 huge Russian ugly men with hair on their backs and just very rude and loud and screaming it was... ugh! There you go first-hand report

2:23:31 Cyprus, here's the holiday destination guy. Do you like Russian bears? Then Cyprus is for you! You too can get yelled by horrible fat Russian guys in the pool All right, so there you go. So it's global politics! It's obvious that Russia has got their military base in Syria we still haven't entered Syria but we are helping out maybe let the Russians do it maybe were given Russians who say hey Russia know what? You take care of Cyprus you already got that and then why don't you guys walk into Syria

2:24:08 Well, there seems to be again one of these little strategic things going on between different agencies intelligence or otherwise. The State Department wants Turkey in Cyprus it seems to me with the Clinton initiative but Sarbanes who represents I guess some other group of people with a vested interest wants Turkey out! Maybe the guy has a conscience I don't know what Sarbanes, the guy who put Sarbanes Oxley in one of the most onerous pieces of legislation in the history United States that guy? Yeah he's a Christian. He wants some Christian...He got a Christian vibe going on. It's like Christians get rousted anyway clearly we have to do more work

2:24:49 I don't think you heard this on CNN, did ya? Did you get hammered once again by stupid Murdoch stories. In the United Kingdom people are glued to their television and radio sets which they pay for I might add. You have to pay for that in order to listen. You have a license an actual license to listen to radio and watch television. All this, all that is Murdoch, Murdoch, Murdoch it's a big distraction and things are going on around you my friends that you are not being told And everyone's taking never let a good crisis go to waste! And that's what we do at least that's what we attempt to do We're not much...we're just you know a writer and DJ

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Show Outro, St. Augustine and Tampa Meetup

The hosts conclude the episode by discussing the next legs of the "Hot Pockets" tour through Florida. They plan to visit St. Augustine and hold a meetup in Tampa. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak sign off, reminding listeners to support the show through the "value-for-value" model.

st. augustine· tampa· jacksonville· florida· roadshow

2:25:29 We rush limbaugh's a DJ. Yeah, would you categorize any different? He's a he's a drug addict I'm an extra hundred million dollars. So I think that's the real difference yeah You know what I don't want four hundred million dollars. I just want to live the American dream of just getting by Yeah And right now we're still eating the airplane so please consider us in your dreams Borac org slash and a Just a thought so what? For you as you guys you fade out tell us where the word of door the little van is headed. The little van Is headed to Jacksonville Darling, Jacksonville Florida Jacksonville tonight are you gonna go there through st? Augustine are we going through st. Augustine to get there I

2:26:12 You threw a curveball at her. And then after Jacksonville we're going to Tampa, and Tampa will have... Can I say something before you go on and on? Yes! You have to go through St Augustine. Okay Mickey, we have to go through St Augustine It's the oldest settlement in the United States it's a beautiful town and Jacksonville is basically a crap hole Well we're only staying in Jacksonville overnight maybe we should stay over night in St Augustin That's where I'd stay Mickey like where is that It's funny, you know when you have a European. She like what state is Madison in again? It's like every like 15 times today Where was Baltimore and but yeah it but you know is for us. It's easy right You know I was like we've grown up Baltimore Maryland. It's like uh

2:26:57 You know, what city is... Mickey? What color is the White House? Who's buried in Grant's tomb. Well that's a good question! That's not necessarily Grant uh... let me see we have a couple of the people to thank you of course uh... baroness maggie vincent of virginia andy uh... mysterious mister smith um apparently was mr smith's idea actually give us the uh... the rv and i guess he manhandled uh... the baroness that actually maker ag give it up but we're so incredibly thankful as uh... we use this hot pockets mobile to make them the miles roll on by

2:27:38 it really is uh... a fantastic support of the show i could not be more thankful that um... what else uh... well so meet up in tampa and uh... i guess we're trying to hit saint augustine this evening and uh... short couple days or gonna stay in tampa for three days john though we have a yeah well we're going to get said the same august eighties why Have you ever driven across America? It's a lot of driving, dude. Yeah. You gotta sleep and take the shower. Well I'll tell you a couple things about Tampa. It has an old town that is absolutely fantastic

2:28:15 It's called something else. It's not called Tampa school It's called me or somebody can't remember the name of it al-qaeda on the eastern, Florida Peninsula And it's a really nice little place Tampa you like and then Tampa has got the absolute best Not that I would know but I've read about him a stripper lap dance places hmm all right Will report thanks to all the human resources in the chat room for being there for us once again Thank you to all the artists who always do a great job. Thank you everybody donating supporting the program no commercials here We're just trying to get by So we will talk to you again on Sunday Right now coming to you from the place with great was it beautiful people and beautiful places South Carolina in the morning I'm Adam Curry

2:29:05 And with no further ado, and from Northern Silicon Valley where it's a temperate 61 degrees. I'm John C. Dvorak. No Agenda producer update is next on the live stream, Ms. Mickey will be telling all about the logistics behind the roadshow and i have to give her some major props as well she's maintaining a great travelogue unfortunately on Facebook but there you go what are you gonna say? We'll talk again on Sunday everybody right here at no agenda.