Episode 312 · Sunday, 12 June 2011

Illegal in Tennessee

A sexting scandal triggers a media frenzy while German authorities target organic farms and the White House redefines the American Dream for a debt-laden generation.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 312

About this episode

Anthony Weiner announced his entry into professional treatment for hypersexual disorder as rumors of a suicide risk circulate among high-level legal circles. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak analyze the fallout of the sexting scandal, contrasting the New York Daily News reporting with the corporate media narratives pushed by Rachel Maddow and MSNBC. The situation draws immediate parallels to the Clinton era, punctuated by archival audio of Bill Clinton and speculation regarding the political survival of the New York representative.

German health authorities in Lower Saxony have shifted blame for a lethal E. coli outbreak from Spanish cucumbers to an organic bean sprout farm, a move that signals a broader war on raw agriculture. Meanwhile, President Barack Obama visited a Chrysler plant in Toledo to claim an early bailout repayment, though financial records indicate the transaction was a high-interest refinance rather than a true settlement. In Washington, Leon Panetta’s confirmation hearing for Secretary of Defense reveals a likely extension of the Iraq troop presence, while Representative Ron Paul warns CNN that NATO’s mission creep in Libya has bypassed constitutional authority. The UN Human Rights Council has also released a 90-page report on Libya that fails to find evidence for the state-sponsored rape allegations previously touted by Hillary Clinton.

The American Dream undergoes a radical redefinition as the White House promotes manufacturing credentials for community college students while medical graduates like Dr. O face $200,000 in debt. Sir Norman McDonough receives his official knighthood and mirror-script ring for his contributions to the program. The show also deconstructs the Gay Girl in Damascus blog hoax, revealing how intelligence operations use fabricated social media personas like Amina Abdallah to manufacture consent for foreign intervention.


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CHAPTER 01 / 27 Discussion

No Agenda Episode 312 Introduction, Sunday June 12 2011

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 312 of the No Agenda podcast on Sunday, June 12, 2011. The hosts establish their locations at the Hilltop Watchtower and Northern Silicon Valley while welcoming listeners from the No Agenda Chat and stream. They briefly joke about the legality of the program in Tennessee following new state legislation.

adam curry· john c dvorak· no agenda· media assassination· hilltop watchtower

00:00 The following program may intimidate or frighten people in the state of Tennessee and therefore is illegal and void where prohibited by law elsewhere. Stop listening. Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. And Sunday, June 12, 2011, time for your Get Mo' Nation Media assassination episode 312. This is no agenda. Reading UN documents so you don't have to here at the Hilltop Watchtower, Crackpot Command Center, Gimel Nation West, The People's Republic of Southern California. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where I can see it clearly, there are freight cars on the sidetrack. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. Ooh, I like that. You did an in the morning slide whistle. I did. Do it again. Do it again. In the morning. Come on, you can do it.

00:51 I can't do it. You had it there. I was because it was the music was going along I could play with the music. I just can't. I'm not good at acapella. No but you know you're really getting good at the jingles. Hot pockets. I mean you're getting really good John. That is good. Hot pockets. Hey in the morning to you my friend John C. Dvorak. In the morning to you Adam G. Curry and to all ships at sea and feet in the air. How come I'm G? I'm C. Oh is it C? Yeah, Adam Clark Curry. Yeah. Also in the morning to all of our human resources who once again have loyally shown up in the chat room at noagendachat.net, noagendastream.com and they're all charged up and ready exactly the way their government loves them so they can suck the lifeblood out of them.

CHAPTER 02 / 27 Discussion

Anthony Weiner Treatment, Clinton Body Count Theory

Anthony Weiner announced he is seeking professional treatment following a sexting scandal, which the hosts link to the DSM-5 diagnosis of hypersexual disorder. A theory from a high-powered entertainment lawyer suggests Weiner may be at risk of suicide, prompting a discussion about the "Clinton body count" and a classic audio clip of Bill Clinton denying relations with Monica Lewinsky.

anthony weiner· bill clinton· monica lewinsky· dsm-5· hypersexual disorder

01:40 Which is always nice. So I have a new feature for the show which I will introduce after the halfway break. A new feature? Well, thanks for the tease. Oh, is that what that was? Yeah, stay tuned for another hour of crap before you get to the really good stuff. It's just a feature, it's not anything special. So, a couple things going on. We might as well start off with our favorite topic since it seems to still be top of the news, everybody. Anthony Weiner. Actually, I think that, well, go on. Well, Anthony Weiner's still kind of top of the news. and now he's announced that he's going in for treatment. Just in fact... Treatment for what? Carpal tunnel? No, hello, hello, hello, we've discussed this only just a couple weeks ago. We talked about the DSM-5 which is the psychology report which has all of the all psychologists in the United States at least I don't know if it's

02:37 Worldwide adhere to that and of course we have the new hyper sexual disorder We don't have to go down the list, but Anthony Weiner qualifies for every single point So this is great. It's a double whammy. So do we well yeah of course we do I have a little more Dark thought though actually this is a friend of mine Who's a high-powered entertainment lawyer who shall go unnamed? Because you know it's not it's not it's not a very safe job to have high-powered entertainment lawyer at least if you represent people like Michael Jackson, you know you might wind up killing yourself, but He threw out a theory at me which really took me by surprise. He said I got a bad feeling about Anthony Weiner So what do you mean says? I think the guy's gonna off himself, and then I'm like of course classic Clinton double tap it's the These you know you know how many people have died around the Clintons

03:38 in some form of scandal? Yeah, actually there's a web page devoted to the Clinton's body count. Curiously I have a Clinton clip! How coincidental! It's a classic. I just thought I'd bring it into our mix of classic clips. Okay, does it need any setup? I don't think so. I'm gonna say this again. I did not have sexual relations with that woman. Miss Lewinsky, I never told anybody to lie. Not a single time. Never. Sorry. G! Greta Van Susteren played that clip. Oh man, we gotta put this in the permanent collection. Yeah, we do. We do. You know, but I feel bad for Anthony, but that would be a solution, right?

04:30 I mean and it's and it's so you know he could totally get the two to the head gun in the left right yeah shot three times in the chest with a shotgun suicide yeah and then he hung himself I hate to say it you know I because I don't wish any of but you know the people who are around the Clintons have a weird way of getting suicided It's just not it's it's a pretty good good one. I think that's off the wall It's off the wall, but I was like I like it. I don't like it I don't like it, but I don't like it. I don't like it, but if it happens it'll be you know we've nailed it Yeah, I like it, but I don't really like it because it's it's bad. Hey. What the hell happened here I uh hey. Oh boy. I have the wrong show notes. What's going on here. What'd you do? I don't know something I

CHAPTER 03 / 27 Discussion

Rachel Maddow MSNBC Coverage, Anthony Weiner Direct Messaging

Rachel Maddow and MSNBC are criticized for their breathless reporting on Anthony Weiner's direct messaging with a high school student in Delaware. Despite reports from the New York Daily News and local police suggesting no inappropriate behavior occurred, the hosts argue that Maddow has become a foil for corporate interests since the departure of Keith Olbermann.

rachel maddow· msnbc· anthony weiner· fox news· twitter

05:21 Hmm hold on a second. Let me see what's going on here. This is well you're doing that I'm gonna have a sip of a drink I made a health drink consisting of goji berries and green tea Yeah, sounds like a who dreams up this crap I Don't know. Oh God is terrible all right. That's that for that. Yeah. I'm sorry. I'm just freaking out here for a second Why do I have the wrong show notes? What's going on? Yeah, okay. No, I'm good now. I'm good. Wow, that's kind of scary when that happens. Why? Why is it scary? Well, because, you know, it's not like I don't work the entire week on putting my show notes together and then all of a sudden it's like, uh... You don't ad-lib the entire show the way I do? No, I'm just not that talented. Oh my good! Yes, you are. I am just not that talented. Uh-uh. Uh-uh. So, um, there are a couple of rather

06:20 important things to go through. Well, can I just, Boris Stiff? Please, please feel free. Apparently MSNBC has taken a turn for the worse and I guess the Comcast or CableTown guys have really put the screws in so they made, they're trying to make Rachel Maddow show real serious. So she did a hit piece on Wiener citing mostly sources from Fox saying these these sources could all be bullcrap but it could be true is the way she finishes in a very long breathless report breathless she was like she was like you said this is the most important thing in the world she's telling us all the news about wiener maybe might be

07:05 could be a b d emming you know direct messaging which is no big deal on twitter i might add some teenager in delaware where i believe the age of consent is 16 anyway but it's beside the point because you know people dm on this thing it's not like he's trying to pick her up. But hasn't this already been investigated and they talked to the teen and there was no inappropriate behavior? Isn't this all kind of like done? Yeah and by the way that had already been done when this report was given as far as I can tell but if you listen to this report just listen to it and tell me that this isn't like This just doesn't make any sense that she would be doing this. She's supposed to be defending this guy. Why didn't she come out at some point during this idiotic report and say, this is bullcrap.

07:55 about direct online communication she may have had with Congressman Weiner. Fox News.com reporting that sources have told them, sources not the police department, sources close to the student told them that the girl followed Anthony Weiner on Twitter after hearing him speak during a school trip to Washington DC and that the two of them, Congressman Weiner and this high school girl, had had a direct messaging conversation after that in mid-April and possibly on more occasions. We called the New Castle County Police Department in an attempt to confirm this story ourselves tonight. A public information officer there told us only that officers responded to a call at a residence in North Wilmington this afternoon, but the officer couldn't say what the police were investigating, what the age of the girl is, or if the investigation is in connection to Congressman Weiner at all. Congressman Weiner's spokeswoman tonight said this, quote, according to Congressman Weiner, his communications with this person were neither explicit

08:47 nor indecent. The New York Daily News reporting tonight, quoting a source close to this girl in Delaware, telling the Daily News, quote, she was not targeted in any way, did not receive any inappropriate messages or photos or anything from the congressman. If she had, her family would have filed charges. Again, that from the New York Daily News, quoting a source close to this girl in Delaware. So is this a damning new development with regard to Congressman Weiner tonight? The headlines on foxnews.com and other sites that have picked up the foxnews.com story read as if it is a big damning new development. Frankly, the publicly available details on this do not necessarily support the implications in the headlines at foxnews.com and at the New York Post and all over the Internet. Not at least at this point. Now, if there is more to report here, we will bring it to you as we know, but those are

09:38 of the known details as of this moment. Well it's so obvious that... She's breathless! You know what, by the way, we need the sound clip, the background, you know that... Yeah, the newsroom, the teletype. The breaking news sound in the background. This is, you know, please don't make me play that again or any of... Rachel Maddow Ever since Keith Olbermann left, I agree, she's just become worse. She's terrible without Keith Olbermann as her kind of foil. Yeah, if... Alright, I'm done with Weiner. I hope it doesn't happen, but there's a history, you know, anyone who wants to know our theory about what happened with Congressman Weiner, listen to episode 311. I'll give you an idea.

CHAPTER 04 / 27 Discussion

E. Coli Outbreak, German Organic Farm Scapegoating

German health authorities shifted the blame for a deadly E. coli outbreak from Spanish cucumbers to an organic bean sprout farm in Lower Saxony. The hosts analyze the use of the number 33 in death toll reports as a potential elite code and suggest the event is being used to demonize organic farming and raw milk in favor of Monsanto's genetically modified, Roundup-ready crops.

e coli· germany· organic farming· monsanto· roundup ready

10:29 Because there is some other actual real news taking place John. Whoo. Yeah real news everybody so let's let's go to Gitmo nation Deutschland for a moment as first the deadly E. Coli virus First it was cucumbers from Spain. Don't eat any lettuce, any eggplants, cucumbers, tomatoes. Don't eat any of that, you're gonna die. Oh wait a minute, it's, turns out it's not that. It's bean sprouts, it's bean, oh wait a minute, it's not bean sprouts. But no, wait, wait, wait, it's bean sprouts. Epidemiological studies have shown that the connection between the AHEC outbreak and the sprouts

11:10 could be completely confirmed not by laboratory tests but by epidemiological studies. How does an epidemiological study work John? They take say a hundred people that got sick and they ask them what they gave they do a kind of a... Say what did you eat? What did you eat? Quick before you die! They look for the common factor and it was all bean sprouts. Completely confirmed. Pardon me? Completely. I mean this time it's absolute, is it? Yeah, we have no positive samples, laboratory samples, but it is given the evidence by epidemiological studies tracing back from the outbreak clusters and the source of the sprout production that there is a very, very close

11:59 Connection. All right, so we've got Adolf there telling us it's the bean sprouts now. This is a very interesting turn this was a like two days ago and I have to give Robert leather our producer and get my nation eat some credit he oh my god, so What could be I mean if who or what could we pin this on we have to pin it on something, right? I How can we misuse this and completely turn around this entire event into something incredibly beneficial? John if you and I were actually traveling in the elitist circles

12:39 I would say look out for the first meme which is always our code here when the number 33 pops up. That means you should be perking up if you're listening to this program. Like, oh, there's a message, code coming through, 33. And then what is actually being blamed on this horrible E. coli outbreak? While you should still be careful about bean sprouts, it seems it's safe to go back to eating salads again. Europe's month-long E. coli scare left at least 33 people, nearly all German, dead and some 3,000 ill in 12 countries, costing farmers hundreds of millions of euros. Germany says one organic farm near Hamburg in Lower Saxony is the source. There you go. Organic farm. Oh, yes. I spotted that right away when they kept hounding these guys for being organic because they're trying to of course, this is part of a concerted effort. You're right, the 33 thing cropping up is pretty suspicious. Pretty. What do you mean? Pretty is like 33 people dead, 3,000 ill. Organic.

13:40 When they throw it in my face, it irritates me. But okay. So this is, and I guess what they're saying, John, and correct me if I'm wrong because you already spotted this obviously, they're saying because organic farming makes use of dangerous cow poop, that that's where the E. coli is coming from and that's why we're dying. And of course, Monsanto and all these guys have been trying to shut down organic farming for such a long time and they've been trying regulation. It couldn't get any better than to have the public actually scared to death of organic farming. I mean this is, just give it up. Whole Foods you might as well shut down because this is going to spread worldwide. Organic farming is extremely dangerous because you can get the E. coli virus that will kill you from cow poop.

14:32 Or am I wrong? No. You know, I think you're absolutely right and I think the problem is is they this attack on organic farming is really also attack on raw milk production in this country. Oh yeah. Well that's been going on for a while but instead of using regulation now you just scare the people into it. Because regulation hasn't, they have had too much pushback. Yeah, it hasn't picked up. By scaring the crap out of the public with this new bug which apparently, which we've deconstructed last show which turns out to be a hybrid. Somebody bred it. and a high bread is what we call it a high bread yeah it's not like genetically engineered it's actually bread to just be resistant to kill people yeah designed to kill people I don't know how they delivered it though I mean do they I mean there's something missing family it's a missing piece of the puzzle or I mean this is actually if there was if somebody could just uncover a memo about this I mean this is essentially a conspiracy to commit murder

15:29 Absolutely. Unless the 33 people are bogus. Well, we've never seen the hospital shots and I mentioned this on the last episode, you know, where, you know, with swine flu we had, you know, the kid not being, you know, breathing, you know, the kids dying but only one or two. We had zero hospital shots. I don't believe I've seen any interviews and I do watch Das Deutsche Fernsehen. That's a German for television. You know, I haven't seen any family members. I haven't seen the funerals. So you're right, it could be anything. It could not be true. What I did find, a lot of people sent me this, there's a documentary which is anti-Monsanto, I'll say right off the bat. But they get briefly for about 20 seconds, they go into how they create the Roundup-ready resistant crops.

16:25 And something caught my ear and eye when I listened. This may not be true, but this is at least what this documentary states. After 12 years of searching, Monsanto found a soil bacteria that is naturally immune to Roundup herbicide. Their goal was to genetically engineer DNA from these bacteria into various plants. Some of the E. coli DNA recombines with the Roundup-resistant bacteria. There you go. So I guess they actually use E. coli in their modification of these crops in order to be resistant against the Roundup Ready product which they sell. Are you familiar with any of this process, John? I don't know anything. I never heard the fact that they use E. coli genes to

17:18 to make these seeds round up ready. It could of course just be genetically modified bean sprouts. I mean it must be hard to find organic bean sprouts. I don't even think you can buy them anymore. Yeah, but you wouldn't I mean what I don't know if you can or not is a good question Maybe one we must have some organic farmers that listen to the show that keep click careful tabs on this but For what? I don't think I don't know I know I so to speak a can of E. Coli worms Wow

17:53 Yeah, it's a this is very very weird but regardless the PR machine is cranking up full-time to let you know that people died from organic bean sprouts organic organic organic 33 people died from organic bean sprouts It's just okay So I think the organic farmers that I know use rabbit poop as a fertilizer. That's kind of... Well, yeah, what kind of fertilizer? I don't think anybody uses fertilizer whatsoever with bean sprouts. They're grown in a container. It's mostly a hydroponic process. There's no dirt. There's no crap. There's nothing that could have E. coli in it unless the liquid that you're using has it. It's bull crap.

18:35 Well, as a matter of fact, it's not bullcrap because it's not in there. So that doesn't make sense. Well, the signs are there, though. We have to be very, very aware of whenever they throw the 33 at you, it's the code. Maybe it may be just, you know, the Queen of England's going, Oh, it's okay. We can eat bean sprouts. They blew the 33 code. Don't worry. Kate just imagined it. Oh right. Kate! Here's Prince William. Kate, Kate, Kate, you can't eat bean sprouts. It's okay love. It has to be a 33 in combo with a 3000. It means us, the scam is over. Right, yeah it's like the all clear sign. Yeah all clear, that's what it is.

19:30 You gotta figure, you know, if that's the all clear sign, you have to wonder what the triggering sign is. Maybe we don't have it. Maybe we don't know what it is or could we be catching these things earlier? I don't know. Well, 33 and 3000 is just like, whoa, okay, gotcha. My goodness. Well, anyway, so I'd say we're safe. Carry on. The all clear has been sounded. The elite New World Order bat signal just in time for the Bilderberg Convention. I even I've got I'm builder board is what I am I've been tracking those Bilderberg conventions for a couple years now it's like it's the same thing over and over again you know we all know who's there it's all the same douchebags it's a drinking club maybe whatever I'm sure I actually believe they're there discussing how to screw us

CHAPTER 05 / 27 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits, Student Debt Crisis

Executive producers James Howard, Norm McDonough, and Joseph Frost are recognized for their financial support of the program. The segment highlights Dr. O, a recent medical school graduate with $200,000 in debt, sparking a discussion on the enslavement of the American public through high-interest education costs and aggressive collection tactics.

james howard· norm mcdonough· student loans· executive producers· karma

20:18 But that's but it doesn't matter that's the drinking clubs can do that. Yeah, it's a drinking club. Would you like a little more scotch? Yes, please? My single mold sir John I want single malt. I won't have your blended scotch. Where's my oh burn now. Let's kill everybody Populations too high let me stroke my white pussy ha ha ha ha ha ha So I got a bunch of guys sitting out there like hey, you're evil. It doesn't really help You know what does help is that people who? Support this program. I continue to amaze new friends that I meet out here, and they say so what do you do? Hey, dude, and Mickey's like he's a media make money from that no it gets better Mickey goes like he's a media assassin

21:12 It's like that's usually when they unfriend us Let me explain it's like like no agenda Hmm and where can I listen to this this show? Oh, it's a podcast No, I think I said podcast. Yeah, they hear podcasts you see their body language go. Yeah, I thought you were like on the radio I And they say that's your studio what that's your studio. Oh, he's only fooling himself Who you talking to yourself?

21:48 So let's thank our executive producers. We got a few today, including James Howard of Indianapolis, Indiana at that 333333.3333 club member. Nice. Because of the mass media highlights, Wienergate and lesbian Lucifer Clinton while ignoring riots in Greece in the Department of Education SWAT team. I'll give a chunk of my wage slave quarterly bonus to a couple of the Dangerous lone wolves who are out the end and I? That's us baby. We're gonna have to have buzzkill jr. Make sure that these concatenated Notes are actually put in full in as full cloth because he's this guy cut off and there's a bunch of other ones that did too Oh really? Well, where's the shill is he like feeding on me? I'd probably

22:41 Norman McDonough in Kitchener, Ontario, Canada, 333.33. And then we've got Joseph Frost of Wooddale, Illinois, who is now the lone... whoops, I'm sorry, there's two of them, two lone members. Hold on, we gotta be throwing these out now. This is good. Of the 312 Club, donating a nearby area code 312, need the karma for the new job search, you can give him a karma shot. Absolutely. You've got karma. and Baron von Pelsmakers comes in from Belgium with the 312 club membership as a monthly 33.33 donor he does he wants to know if he's entitled to a podcasting license signed by the pod father himself yes in fact we've been handing him out give him to yeah podcastlicense.com and you get actually it'll be stavenpelsmakers.podcastlicense.com

23:42 which is kind of cool and have you seen it John? Have you even... I know... no... why don't you answer the question for me? No you haven't. Why don't you just go take a look at it right now so you can say oh my gosh that's amazing please please do that please just do that well let me get the old keyboard here on the lap okay what's well whose name should I put in yours just just just go you can do yours John C. Dvorak dot podcast license dot com Watch the site be down now as everyone is Everyone is looking at it now. It comes up. There's your podcast license John C. Voiceover is official podcast licensed producer John Hancock and Adam Curry The founding father and the pod father There you go. Yes, very good. It's cool, right? You didn't pay for yours, but we gave you an honorary one really mm-hmm what that is so nice Yeah

24:37 And so these are all executive producers. Any associates for today's program? Yeah, we actually have three associate executive producers, including Guava Tools in Lafayette, Louisiana. Belated birthday shout out to my twins that turned two on the 9th, Elliot and Elise. Yeah, we have them on the list. Okay. And some karma for a new human resource on the way, if you would. Yep, of course. You've got karma. Era Dardarian, our Black Knight era. Ara, Dardarian, Dardarian, Chapuco Canyon, up and down your way I think. Hi guys, please allow me to suggest a new initiative. Official fuel supplier of the Hot Pockets Tour 2008, Adam said the van has a 55 gallon tank. Let's say the average cost of gas is four bucks a gallon, one

25:27 Tank full of cost you $220 which is what he donated being pleased. That's very nice Yeah, that's a good way to do it a tank a gas tank a tank for the van a hot pockets 2008 calm everybody you can go check it out I'll put this on as you should you make a link for that. It's cool Hot buckets. Dr. O Philadelphia PA 200 bucks please refer to me as Dr. O and not my real name. Okay got it. Which is Obama. Having just graduated from medical school $200,000 in debt. I know firsthand this country needs a drastic rethink of education costs. I don't mean the current mean that all degrees are bogus and then it gets cut off. Is there nothing there's no the rest of his message isn't there this is not good.

26:15 Well, it will be correct. Maybe let's get a new spreadsheet from Buzzkill Jr. before we do the donation segment. Well anyway, thank you very much Dr. O for supporting the show even with your $200,000 in debt. It's unbelievable, but this is what they try to do. They make everybody go to enslaving the public with his high amounts of debt and then if he misses one payment they'll jack up his interest rate. No, no, what do you mean if he misses one payment? The SWAT team, break the door down, drag him out in his boxers, throw his kids in the cop car.

CHAPTER 06 / 27 Discussion

Domain Name Forwards, Podcast License Initiative

Listeners have forwarded several domain names to the show, including "I am sick of being poor" and "Hot Pockets Tour." The hosts promote the new podcastlicense.com initiative, where donors of $33.33 receive a digital license, and thank Baroness Maggie Vincent for providing an RV for their upcoming summer tour.

podcastlicense.com· maggie vincent· aivd· hot pockets tour· domains

26:55 All right, that's our support for this show? That's our producer support for today's show. That's extremely nice, we appreciate that. And we have more people we'll be thanking in our donation segment. A couple of PR mentions now forwarding to noagendashow.com. I guess in light of the Glencore IPO, Gleancore and Cleancore Dot-com and dotnet now pointing to know agenda show calm like quite sure if that's gonna help us a lot With our Google juice. I do like the following. I am sick of being poor calm. That's pretty good Yeah, I could say I could see people I'm sick of being poor calm. I think we we should be handing out domains on that one to Adam Curry. I'm sick of being poor calm. Hello. How are you? Hello everybody nice to meet you I

27:46 Hotpocketstour.com now forwarding to the hotpockets2008.com website. Fantastic. This is a really nice one. I'm amazed this was available. In the morning, Captain Curry, Uberlord, and Super Meister of the Divine Podcast, and hi to JCD. Hail the foot! So you know this is coming from Gitmo Nation Lowlands. I am forwarding the following domain to noagendershow.com. AIVD.NL. Now, I can't believe this domain name was available. In fact, let me just check and make sure that actually is forwarding. That blows me away. AIVD.NL. The AIVD... Yeah, let me see. I don't know if it's forwarding and maybe it's not forwarding yet. Hmm, now I'm getting suspicious. I don't know if... Nah, see this is bullcrap. I should have checked this before. This is weird.

28:48 Hmm well AIVD this is why I didn't believe it is the all-command in lifting and final heights deep just like the Dutch CIA Yeah, this guy trying to hose me I don't know so a IVD dot NL seems to be forwarding to the Dutch CIA and not to us Okay, get mobling calm for it. No gender show calm. I like that and here's a new one n OSP dot I am Which is of course means no spin. That's kind of nice, kind of nice play. That's also forwarding now to noagendershow.com. We already talked about our podcastlicense.com and for those of you who haven't seen it yet, if you go to podcastlicense.com there's a link there. Upon a $33.33 donation to the show you get a free podcast license. It's good for life. We'll even link to your podcast and we've, yeah, it looks like we got a couple on the roster for today.

29:45 So that's great extra work for me putting all that together all right yeah, and I wanted to I guess I had neglected to do this but Although of course I'd I wake up. I go to bed at night thinking about her. I wake up in the morning thinking about her Baroness Maggie Vincent of Virginia says you know could I just have a little bit of karma She's got a couple things going on so we're gonna hand that out to her right now. You've got karma Have you looked at her website? No, I have not. I didn't know she had one. Yeah, maggievincent.com. Oh. Yeah. And she's a sysadmin, right? So she's like, I've got a wireless router all hooked up. You're like, does it multiplex? I'm going to see if it multiplexes for you. This is like, oh my God, this came from heaven. Baroness Maggie Vincent.

30:36 She's got a how do you spell Maggie Vincent? M-a-g-g-i-e-v-i-n-c-e-n-t. Oh, I guess a square space. M-i-g-g-i-e-v-i-n-c-e-t. Maggie Vincent. V-i-n-c-e-n-t. Yeah. Vincent. No. Okay. Well, if you go to HotPockets2008.com, there's a link to her site right there. And she has an RV blog. She has a blog about the actual RV that she's kindly lending us to embark on our Hot Pockets tour. We're going to fly to Virginia on July 15th. Well you could use that would be I like the way the yeah what the way the rig is fake to look like. Yeah that's good I think that was I don't think it's actually been painted that way yet I think that's a Photoshop job but it's starting to look really good and I yeah I don't have a see a link here to her site. Go to the rig

31:33 Got it. Yeah. Yeah the rig and then you see Maggie Vincent's rig blog RV blog. Okay? Yeah, anyway Maggie Yeah, she said she has she posts all these geeky pictures of her and she's got like glasses and stuff like sysadmin I'm convinced take the glasses off and she like shakes her head and the hair falls loose down around her shoulders I think Remember she find out soon enough. Yeah, well, she's we're gonna kick it off with a hot tub and martini party. So ok, MaggieVincent.com works but www.MaggieVincent.com sends me over to which is one of those DNS issues. Yeah, but that's old school. Who the hell uses that? Well, I know but the point is that you should be able to... No, you don't have to. It's old school. No, but it shouldn't be rerouting you to Squarespace if you use it. That's a Squarespace issue, I'm sure. Well, she's a sysadmin. I'm sure she can fix it.

32:25 So anyway, thank you all for your support, your PR efforts. They are highly appreciated as always. And special thanks to our associate executive producers Guava Tools, Sir Ara Dardarian, Dr. O. And then of course we have our executive producers and 312 Club members Joseph Frost, Baron Staphen, Pelsmachers. And our 333 club members and also executive producers James Howard and Norm McDonough. All of you received these official credits. Some of you already have them obviously, but you can continue to add to the list. Collect all 25! And for those of you on the way to knighthood, the rings are out right there, out the door. The Shill has, he sent me a note that he has sent them. Yeah, he apparently has. Yes he has. So, and he sent mine as well. Except the ones overseas.

33:13 Okay, well he sent mine so that the minute I get it I can start you know showing pictures and stuff and then once overseas you got to go to the post office and everything's different prices and he sent us the bill which was also nice yeah John's like well there's more money disappearing It's alright man I'm glad we saved for it we set aside the rings of course aren't free Everyone else out there who has not had the opportunity to help out in any manner you can still do one very important thing which is propagate the formula our formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth And of course if you want to support any program any episode of the no agenda program As we do not take commercial money do not play commercials that you can do that at the following address. So borac.org Slash and a those of you with small human resources that would be the kids they will be reciting this over and over again day in day out

CHAPTER 07 / 27 Discussion

Twitter User Survey, Social Network Marketing Tactics

A live walkthrough of a Twitter user survey reveals aggressive data collection tactics and "skip logic" designed to steer user sentiment. The hosts critique the pre-selected answers regarding social media usage time and the leading questions about switching from Facebook to other platforms.

twitter· survey· social networks· marketing· data collection

34:20 We hope. It's like three more days till Halloween. Dvorak.org slash N A Silver Shamrock. So I go to get ready for the show and... At five to nine. Yeah. No, that's when I called in. I was ready for it. What time do the clips come in? Were they at five to nine? I don't think so. Not much earlier. So I decided to go on Twitter to see if there's any input and boom! Congratulations, dear Twitter user, you've been selected to take part in our anonymous survey. Oh my goodness! Oh, you're so lucky. So it's a 30-second questionnaire. I decided to do it on the show. It's only five questions. This is a good idea. Let's rock and roll. So question number one, are you male or female? Now I realize that this came out of the blue and during the wiener

35:12 uh... debacle because obviously twitters you know they got a lot of attention i mean this is a time we you know they go public to talk as a good this is groovy is a good days of me but it is the obviously need some information from the users to put together their package there are there are a few of the marketing section of the idea of the other dog and pony park there so they have five questions for me so here we go we have one male or female can click click mail And by the way if they say thank you they're gonna offer an exclusive gift including a $1,000 Best Buy gift card or an Apple MacBook Pro Wow, that's cool and and and or a cruise is there a cruise and no cruise no The cruise where that does not include your airfare your trips or your sewage fee

35:58 Question number two how many social networks are you registered with? One one would you wait three four or more wait so you have LinkedIn you have Twitter you don't have Facebook Right so you have to anymore. I don't think so okay, too So right into so I put two and boom as he goes right, and it doesn't even let me think about it. Oh Question three or five. What is your age? 10 to 17, 18 to 25, 26 to 39, 40 plus years old. Oh well, that's bogus. I get lumped in with you. I can't say that you and I are the same personality. It doesn't say that you're you're full of crap What are the actual choices for a screenshot? I believe you 40 plus a okay. Yeah, it's just put in 33. Can you put in? I'm gonna put in 10 to 17, okay nice Okay

36:57 And then you get different questions you think or you don't know? No, this is obviously done, this is a script. Question number four... Skip logic. Yeah, skip logic. How many hours do you usually spend on social networks per day? Oh, well... This is interesting because people use Facebook around the thing all day. And by the way, it's pre-clicked. Oh, it's pre-selected for your convenience? Yeah. What is the selection? What's the selection? The selection is five to ten hours. In aggregate? In aggregate? None of the other ones. This is pre-clicked. I can't believe it. Anyway, it says here's the, here's the, here's the... Well, so they're trying to stack their deck. Duh. Less than one hour?

37:40 One to four hours five to ten. I think you're a wonderful. I think you're wonderful I am wonderful five to ten is pre-clicked and which by the way when you click on the other things once you click boom It goes to the next question so how come it's not going to the next question already right five to ten and eleven hours and more Which would be most kids, so I'm gonna go back it off to one to four then found a final question number five wait a minute eleven hours or more was pre-clicked and No, no five to ten. Okay, right. I don't want to make people look insane. How many more questions? I'm getting one. This is it. Okay, number five. This is it. This is the end. All right. All right.

38:19 Question 5 how do you feel about switching your mail? Oh? What are we getting this is the main this is the real question So they take you through all this like let's just make sure it's a real person and not a robot and now the real question How do you feel about switching your main social network to another? This is to get rid of, get Facebook people to think about it. Right, what are the answers? What are the possible answers? None are free click, but it says I would definitely do it right at the top. I'm okay with my current one. There is a possibility and I haven't thought about it. So what are you going to click?

39:00 I would say there is a possibility. I think it's a possibility with everybody. But of course that'll be bunched in in the final analysis with I would definitely do it, right? Because what you said people would either they'd either definitely do it or they're thinking about it. Right. So I'm going to click there's a possibility. And then what? Now do we get a congratulations you're now eligible for your cruise? It's going submitting, submitting, submitting, submitting and now I can now I please gift your email address and then what would you what should I get a gift card quantity left four pieces what is this quantity left crap? John is there a point to this or are we done? We're done. All right just put in my email address adamcurry.com I'm fine and if I get the cruise I'll take you with me.

CHAPTER 08 / 27 Discussion

Obama Chrysler Plant Speech, Auto Industry Bailout

President Barack Obama visited a Chrysler plant in Toledo to claim the auto industry has repaid its taxpayer loans six years early. The hosts deconstruct this claim, noting the repayment was actually a high-interest refinance, and mock the President's use of the word "vindicate" regarding his faith in American workers.

barack obama· chrysler· auto bailout· west wing week· toledo

39:44 Can you imagine you and I on a ship? In a cabin together? It would have to be filmed as a reality show. Yeah, as a fiasco. Okay. Hey, I watched the president's reality show, speaking of reality shows, known as the West Wind Week. It was a good episode. If you've never seen this, it's on whitehouse.gov. It comes out I think Thursday or Friday. You know, they're a little lax on the schedule. But so there's three short short clips and the first two are just so abhorrent to me because of course we have to continue to propagate the lie that because Obama, our president, rescued the auto industry. They're doing so great that they paid back all the money they owed us, the taxpayers, six years early. I just want to reiterate for those of you who are new to this program that if you actually do a

40:46 Three-second Google search you will see that they did yes They paid back the money because we were loan sharking them with a 12% interest rate and they did a refi their refinance at 8% and They've actually done nothing but refinance the loan. So they're still in in debt and But it's being spun as if, oh wow, yeah, it's great. So it starts off and it's always hard when you get right into a clip that has kind of wild audio. This is why I like the West Wing Week show, is because it has a lot of wild audio from behind the scenes and sometimes it's kind of interesting. So here's the president as he's about to do a speech at Chrysler at the plant.

41:28 And he's walking and the woman here says, you know, I'm a manager here at Chrysler and I'm helping us. I'm really working hard on the company. And of course you want to listen to what the president says. Shortly after the... Sorry. Wrong one. Here we go. Managed the investment in Chrysler for the past two years. Good job. Way to get our money back. Yeah, thank you. On Friday... Did you hear that? You couldn't hear. Yeah, just play it again. Okay. Here we go. Listen to what he says. I'll do that again.

42:19 Good job, way to get our money back? Yeah, because this is the whole meme that has to be propagated. Like we got our money back, way to get our money back. Then we have the assistant, the deputy press secretary, he's the guy who does the voiceover, the annoying voiceover. Since it's not clear in the audio, he has to make it very clear what actually went down. Shortly after the president took office, the American auto industry was on the brink of liquidation. Brink! A collapse that many analysts say would have caused one million American workers to lose their jobs. The president though made a decision to rescue the American auto industry. Oh, the president made a decision to rescue. Give him a cape. John, he needs a cape. He made a decision to rescue the auto industry. Now, just two years later, the unthinkable has happened. Unthinkable! Chrysler is gaining market share, investing in their plants, creating jobs, making a profit, and the company has repaid all of the money committed to them by the Obama administration six years early.

43:12 The company is now positioned for success and it's had a significant impact, not just on Chrysler workers, but on the broader Toledo community. And he's running out, you can hear them all cheering, he's trotting onto the stage. With his hands up in the air like the Chewtica squirrel? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, he doesn't have his hands up in the air, but he's trotting like Jog, you know, he's like, yeah, everybody, hello everybody, I rescued you! I placed my bet on you. I did. I put my faith in the American worker. Right there! And I'll tell you what. What? I'm gonna do that every day of the week. I'm gonna do that every day of the week. Because what you've done vindicates my faith. Hell yeah! Vindicates his faith.

43:54 vindicates his faith John. It vindicates his faith? That's right. It vindicates? It vindicates. What does that actually mean it vindicates his faith? I'm wondering how in that you in that I don't know. What does that mean? It should mean confirm the way he's using it in the sentence. But vindicate is something it means something different doesn't it? Words do matter ladies and gentlemen while John is looking that up. In fact clear someone of blame or suspicion I think you know or prove to be right reasonable or justified but what's it got to do with his faith? I don't know. Here's what we should do. It clears it blames or... I'm sorry. I don't know. It's poorly used. When in doubt... Thank you. It's more than cute. I like the cello in there. Let's hear it again. It's really good.

CHAPTER 09 / 27 Discussion

National Spelling Bee Winner, White House Visit

President Obama met with the Scripps National Spelling Bee champions in the Oval Office, as seen on the "West Wing Week" web series. The hosts attempt to spell the winning word, "cymotrichous," which refers to having wavy hair, while critiquing the President's own spelling attempt.

barack obama· national spelling bee· cymotrichous· west wing week· oval office

44:52 You know one day the the guys over at NPR and stuff they're gonna wake up and they're gonna look at our show and go how did they do that? How'd they get it like people are making jingles for them? You know they they register websites. They don't pay 18 million dollars for it One day vindicated according to Webster's Merriam-Webster's is avenge That's what I thought it was. Yeah, to free from allegation or blame, this is a later one, and confirm, substantiate, okay here it is, B1 of the third definition. In other words, obscure. Confirm or substantiate, so it confirms or substantiates his belief. His faith. Justifies another one. Justify, I think, is what he really means. Well, that's good, since we're on the topic of explaining what words are, John, you really turned me on to the national spelling bee.

45:47 You had a clip which, what was the other word? The foos, the... It's named on the clip, I can't remember. Yeah, I don't remember either. And by the way, I want to say, you got the douchebag thing ready? Yeah. Play it for Twitter. I can't get off this stupid site because there's a so-called awards is one of those phony baloney deals which sends you to a million other sites saying you get here today's winner they and I can't close the browser and it tells me congratulations congratulations I have to take another survey and I have to literally go and control alt delete and kill Firefox to get off this thing because if I click to close it

46:28 I get a message that says you're about to close five tabs and then well this well I get funny could close it nope now it comes back now I can't get off this page this is don't take this just this is a piece of crap I can't believe these people would do this You really you have a hard time believing that I don't yeah, well, okay, I guess well I Anyway, go on. I don't have a hard time believing that at all so you open a new but I have to go close all the browser I got a blow them up with with Program manager, it's unbelievable so I can't remember for the life of me. What was the

47:11 Well, Bean-Foose or something. Hexafoose. See? Hexafoose. Now, that was not the girl who won the spelling bee though. No. Okay, so President Obama welcomed the winner of the spelling bee to the White House. And this was also on his reality show, The West Wing Week. And he has a little tete-a-tete with the winner of the spelling bee. Also in the Oval Office, the President met with the 2010 and 2011 Scripps National Spelling Bee Champions. Now, what was your winning word? Symmetricus. Symmetricus. Okay, Symmetricus.

47:51 John, Symmetricus. Would you like to give Symmetricus a go? Can you use it in a sentence? Yes. Adam Curry is very Symmetricus, whereas John C. Dvorak is not. No, no, no, no, no, no typing! Do not consult the Book of Knowledge! No, no, no, you cheater! You cheat, cheat, cheater! Are there any alternatives pronunciations? No. How do you spell it? Well here goes our president. Symmetricus. S-Y... No? Okay, I already got gonged. It's C-Y-S-Y. Symmetricus. Of course he does take time out to ask what it means. Okay, go ahead. Spell it. C-Y-S-Y.

CHAPTER 10 / 27 Discussion

Community College Manufacturing Credentials, American Dream Redefinition

President Obama announced a new initiative for 500,000 community college students to receive manufacturing credentials stamped by industry associations. The hosts argue this redefines the American Dream from one of prosperity and wealth to a "slavish" existence of merely being able to pay bills and live within one's means.

barack obama· community college· manufacturing· american dream· job market

48:43 Okay, and what is the sign what is simotris? It means having wavy hair Oh Interesting having wavy hair a great word by the way I was watching Obama on Well actually when you're done with this. I want to talk a little bit about the the state luncheon he had for the Angola Yeah. Well, okay, then let me just finish up. By the way, this was the gray, gray Obama. Oh, it was the other guy? Yeah. Yeah. So I also watched our president's weekly address and I'm getting very disturbed.

49:25 by the messaging that he, and by the way he's phoning it in now. He's fumbling, he's like, eh, because it's the same message over and over again but now it's becoming apparent because even the writers are getting lazy. But he did something earlier in this week and this is in his address and by the way I feel that every American citizen should watch our president's address. I don't understand why he doesn't have like 300 million views on YouTube because everyone should be watching this. It just doesn't. And it's always a YouTube video, interestingly enough. So it should be watched now. He this is he's come up with some scheme which concerns me greatly It sounds rather slavish listen on Wednesday I announced commitments by the private sector colleges and the National Association of Manufacturers that will make it possible for 500,000 community college students to get a manufacturing credential that has the industry's stamp of approval and

50:20 If you're a company that's hiring, you'll know that anyone who has this degree has the skills you're looking for. So if you go to community college and you get a stamp That says you're you're good to work in a factory did I understand that properly apparently yeah, because it Was that work? 500,000 new factory slaves, it's like are you in community college it used to be like I'm so sorry you're a community college because you know you're your parents are on welfare your community college now we get At first he calls it a certification, then it's like something else. Hold on a second, what did you say? The National Association of Manufacturers that will make it possible for 500,000 community college students to get a manufacturing credential. Okay, so it's a credential first. That has the industry's stamp of approval. You get a stamp of approval from the industry.

51:15 What industry and what... where are you gonna get a job? Well, hold on. It's the manufacturing industry, i.e. you know, slave factories. You get a stamp. You're... oh, whoops. Yeah, you're approved. Here, stamp. If you're a company that's hiring, you'll know that anyone who has this degree... Now all of a sudden it's a degree. It went from a stamp to a degree. ...has the skills you're looking for. What skill? Titan Bolt next. Titan Bolt next. If you're a student considering community college, you'll know that your diploma will give you a leg up in the job market. Oh! A leg up! This does not sound like the America I was born into. On Monday I'll travel to North Carolina. Whatever. So then, John let me ask you. This is gonna hurt you. What is the American dream?

52:14 What is the dream that we're an immigrant country? That we can all get rich. Is that not truly the dream? Yeah, that's it in a nutshell. The dream is, and I'm sorry, you know, you may not like it, you may think it's abhorrent, but the American dream has always been if you work hard in America, you can be the guy driving the Rolls Royce. And this is why immigrants came to Ellis Island, like, hey I want to try and make it in America. In the United Kingdom of Gitmo Nation East, people still say, in the entertainment industry, it's very apparent, I can only make it to America. Because there you can make it if you work hard, you can become the top of the bill. Is that not the American dream, John?

53:03 Yeah. Wrong! In the end, the folks I hear from in letters or meet when I travel across the country, they aren't asking for much. They're just looking for a job that covers their bills. They're looking for a little financial security. Be quiet! You're interrupting this dream! It's the American Dream speech. They're just looking for a job that covers their bills. They're looking for a little financial security. They want to know that if they work hard and live within their means, everything will be alright. They'll be able to get ahead and give their kids a better life. That's the dream each of us has for ourselves and our families. That's the dream! That's the dream! Just pay my bills! Just a little bit more than paying my bills. Sorry, I'm sorry. This hurts me as an American citizen. That just doesn't make sense. That's not the dream. No!

53:58 That's not the American dream. The American dream is not to get by on a starvation wage and be able to pay your bills, and pay off your credit card, and be lucky to be alive. That's not the American dream. Get a stamp. Get a stamp so you can work in a factory. That's not the American dream. Who's he kidding? This is typical of this group of people that are running this government. And it's all of them. I don't care if you love them all of every single one of them Yeah, there's like they're up there, and they think thank you guys are lucky to be alive by the way I'm living the dream right now does that help Yeah, I'm living Obama's dream. Michelle Obama's got 26 staff members working for her on a day-to-day basis with a budget of a million dollars a year just to comb her hair? Yeah. She's living the American dream. No, no, John, you and I are living the American dream according to our president. Just enough to cover the bills and if I just play by the rules I can make a better world for my children tomorrow. I will leave her one dollar. Here kid, I'm dead, here's a dollar.

55:03 I'm surprised none of the right-wingers have picked up on this meme. No one watches it! Here. Apparently not. You're the only guy in the country that watches and you foisted on the audience, our audience. Let me see how many people have watched the YouTube video. Seriously. It comes out on Friday night, I think. I'm going to WhiteHouse.gov. Hey, www.WhiteHouse.gov doesn't work. I'm just kidding. Actually, if you want, if Department of Homeland Security dot gov doesn't work unless you put the www in front of it. Douchebags. Oh! 14,940 people have watched this address. Wow. I mean, dude, that's it? That is it? By the way, he ends pretty funny.

55:56 Listen to the ending of his speech privilege of serving as president I'll keep fighting to put that dream that dream within the reach of all America. That's right. Have a great weekend everybody Have a great weekend everybody Take that dream. Have a great weekend everybody. I want to work very hard every day I want to make sure you have that dream of just being able to pay your bills. Have a great weekend everybody Michelle get your slaves down here comb my hair. I'm sorry. I just any president who talks like that is to just be thrown out of office just for the thought. That is not our American dream. It may be what we're striving towards to not die, but don't call it the dream, please. Do not call that a dream of America. That's degrading. And if people don't like our dream, well, don't come here. Here, everyone can work hard, you can be successful. Not just get by and pay your bills.

CHAPTER 11 / 27 Discussion

Angela Merkel State Dinner, White House Military Pomp

C-SPAN coverage of the state dinner for German Chancellor Angela Merkel is analyzed for its "monarchical" military pomp and awkward social interactions. The hosts mock the red carpet arrivals of political figures like Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Mitch McConnell, as well as James Taylor's performance of "You've Got a Friend."

angela merkel· barack obama· c-span· state dinner· james taylor

56:54 That was appropriate. Yes, it was. Alright John, why don't you take the wheel? We had this thing for Merkel and it was interesting, the C-SPAN... It's Herr Merkel to you, Herr Merkel. I've never seen this before, they actually showed the people coming in and announced. So I've seen that with the honorable. Yeah, and they haven't coming through. I've never seen it before. Diane Sawyer was there. Although everyone was all dressed up. It was like a big elite fest. Yeah. And then they ate outside like a cookout.

57:30 And Obama came in, I watched the whole thing, I was kind of riveted by the people coming through because I have a few comments to make. Because I took some notes. Especially when I got the biggest kick out of it, they would announce like somebody's husband, somebody's wife, depending on who was actually invited. Or they say so-and-so with guest. with guests plus one and then they would have these people that would come in stag and so there'd be these guys there'd be a couple of women coming in as a couple and but I've never saw two guys coming in as a couple the Honorable Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak

58:06 So, so the, but there was, it was Miss, and they made a point of saying Miss, Miss Sarah Bloomfield. And she was, she came in stag. It should be Ms, not Miss. And she kind of basically came through this little thing, there was a line of press and they were taking pictures. They didn't have the backdrop, you know, like they do in Hollywood. It was like a red carpet walkthrough. and she just kind of stomps through very annoyed. And I'm thinking to myself, you can't get anybody to come with you. To the White House, really? Not a single person? I mean, please. What does this say? John, you know, I'm telling you, first of all, ladies and gentlemen, if you're new to this program, yes indeed, watching C-SPAN actually does entertain us. And we actually enjoy it. But we could do like the Fashion Police, we could do a whole bunch of shows around this red carpet at the White House. No one's doing it. It's an open field.

58:59 It's quite open so anyway he got sir her husband and a guy's name anyway I got but anyway I got to see a couple interesting things Debbie Wasserman Schultz comes in and the honorable Debbie Wasserman Schultz. Who is she? She's a congresswoman and you said oh yeah with her husband Steve and meanwhile she comes very Barreling through and the guys left left in the back. He's like looking left and right catch up to her This is what's wrong is that it's show business for ugly people, but they don't have like the greeters You know that because if you look at how the Academy Awards work you get a person right a woman with a walkie-talkie Like some annoying little gnome that walks with you and make sure that you know that you get to the right place in front of the cameras at the right time that you don't get separated from your date and

59:46 and the worst ones are the guys who've never been to the White House before they actually a couple of them come through and then they stop and talk to the media. Oh no! Hanging up the whole event. Yeah, because that's when that that's another job of the of the production assistant walkie-talkie troll she's supposed to like okay okay move it push you along move on. Honorable Mitch McConnell or Congressman Mitch McConnell with the Honorable Elaine Chao. This woman is like this knockout Asian and Mitch McConnell's is old fart and he's got this shit eating grin on his face. Hey look at my biatch. Look what I brought to the party. So James Taylor comes in with his wife. James Taylor the singer. Yeah and then he stops and it's but they have the mic on him so he says he makes his comment which I had to write down.

1:00:36 They're talking about what he's gonna be playing apparently some songs because Obama's are big James Taylor fans I guess how how square and white can you get and then he says he makes this comment They specifically suggested to play you've got a friend. Oh No, he says that yeah, no oh No, you're kidding me And then, here's the thing that kind of got me. They show the beginning of the thing, the outside where Merkel comes up, and the place is surrounded by Marine guards, and they're playing military stuff, and they go in, and the Marines, they've got flags every which way, and they're banging their rifles on the ground, and they're spinning around, and they're doing all this weird stuff. And I think, when did this country become so militaristic

1:01:24 Is it always? I mean, during the Eisenhower administration they had this much military pomp and circumstance and Merkel looked like she looked very uncomfortable with it because it was very, it was just so formal. And he had the gold eagle speech holder. That whole thing. Yes, so he gives the boringest speech ever and he's got this big gold eagle thing. I've never seen that. You talked about it last show and I've never seen it. Herr Engler has the Congressional Medal of Freedom. and they're bowing to each other. Oh, did you see that Michelle bowed to Angela's husband and then, but she went, she bowed to give him a kiss and he went like, and she like winds up kissing the top of his head.

1:02:04 It's hilarious. All the kisses were ridiculous. Yeah, she's like, she's on top of the steps and she bows down to kiss him because you know that's the Hollywood thing to do and he's doing like, hoi! He's doing his, Heil! And he bows over which is very correct in Germany and Austria. I'm surprised he didn't click his heels. Very nice to meet you! This was, this is a joke. It's like a monarchy. When did we become a monarchy? Well hello! Yeah, what am I, what are we doing the show? Exactly, we might as well, hey, exactly. It's hilarious. No, I know. And people, you're missing out on this. C-SPAN is awesome.

CHAPTER 12 / 27 Discussion

Leon Panetta Confirmation Hearing, Iraq Troop Presence

Leon Panetta's confirmation hearing for Secretary of Defense signaled a merging of the CIA and the military-industrial complex. During testimony, Panetta and Senator John McCain discussed the possibility of US troops remaining in Iraq past the promised withdrawal date if requested by the Maliki government.

leon panetta· cia· department of defense· iraq· john mccain

1:02:48 You can put that on your t-shirt. C-SPAN is awesome. It is. It really is. This, you know, you have to wade through a lot of crap, but once you get to the gems and there's no commercial interruptions. I have to say that's the beauty of it. Anyway, I was quite amused. I'm sitting there. Hilarious. Just watching these people walk through being announced. It was actually quite funny. It's great. It really is great. Enough. So I was watching a little bit of C-SPAN. Actually, I watched hours of C-Span. Did you actually have the wherewithal to sit through the Leon Panetta hearing? No. Okay, so Leon Panetta... I think I DVR'd it. It's hours and hours. Too long. So I had it on all day. Much to the chagrin, I might say, of certain people I live with. But, you know. It's a... You don't have to

1:03:45 Okay, so this is the confirmation hearing of Leon Panetta. So Leon Panetta is currently our director of the CIA. His job is to run the CIA and now there's been this big swap and Robert Gates is going out and this is all very convenient that this is taking place now because in July we had a promise from our president our president said Even before he got in he said I am going to take all of our troops out of Iraq right there was there anything else he said along with that John I

1:04:24 I think he said you can take that to the bank. Yeah, but I thought we already took the troops out, but apparently not. No. Yeah, you can take that to the bank. You can take that to the bank. And that was the promise. Yeah, you can take that to the bank. It's so long ago I can't even find the jingle. I got it here somewhere, but he says you can take that to the bank. Oh, here it is. You can take that to the bank. Take that to the bank. I will get our troops out. You can take that to the bank. So now we have Leon Panetta is going to become the Secretary of Defense, which of course means a total melding of the secret intelligence services, the CIA and our military industrial complex. Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful setup. So Panetta, it goes on for hours. And of course, these are... Hold on a second.

1:05:10 Gates came out of the CIA so there's nothing new. Yeah, but okay, but it's never been this bad I think. It's never been this open and apparent and Gates has been in for a long time. So this goes on for hours and it's all set up. It really is and McCain is always the straight man. You want to set something up? Hey McCain, here's your line. Okay. So, totally it. This is show business people. John and I view it as, what's my line? Hey, where's my sides? I don't have time to go into the hearing. What's my, just put it on the prompter. If Prime Minister Maliki, the Iraqi government requests that we maintain a presence there, that ought to be seriously considered by the president. Do you think it would be in our interest to do that given the

1:06:10 A thousand! He counted every single one of them! A thousand Al-Qaeda! A thousand! You don't think a thousand there's a Panetta's on the inside the attack that was made just the other day It too continues to be a fragile situation and I believe that We should take whatever steps are necessary to make sure that we protect whatever progress we've made there so in other words if If we're asked to stay we're gonna stay so what do you think is gonna happen?

1:06:50 Gee, I you know explain it to me. Please we go in we attack a country we take over the country Oh, you want us to stay okay? No problem. We'll stay Yeah, yeah the French told the Germans the same thing in World War II. They told them they really enjoyed their company. Yeah. And they loved the fact that they were doing a really good job in Paris. Have some cheese. And they really liked the fact that the Germans would go down to Bordeaux and steal all the wine cellars. You can take that to the bank. Yeah. That's really nice. So that was about all I got out of that. Now, however, I know- It was a waste of one day. A full day. And they actually had to break away, C-SPAN had to break away to tell you what else was coming up. Otherwise, you know, they're like, hey, are you still awake? There's more coming up on C-SPAN, more riveting testimony. Hey, wake up!

1:07:45 Okay, so there's a something horrible horrible hit is taking place now and all of a sudden everything started to click together for me. Yeah, so we've been hearing these reports and actually I have one of these said reports, but it's it's repetitive about Actually, let me go back. Libya. John, when the first resolution was signed, Resolution 1970, which came just days before Resolution 1973, and we read both resolutions here on the air, we went through them. Resolution 1970 called for something very specific. Resolution 1970 said, we need to send the United Nations Human Rights Council into Libya to make sure that, you know,

CHAPTER 13 / 27 Discussion

UN Human Rights Council Libya Report, Rape Allegations

The UN Human Rights Council released a 90-page report on Libya that the hosts claim contradicts mainstream media narratives. While officials like Hillary Clinton and the ICC prosecutor alleged Gaddafi issued Viagra to his troops for systematic rape, the report states the commission could only verify one victim and found no conclusive evidence of such a policy.

libya· muammar gaddafi· un human rights council· rape· viagra

1:06:50 Gee, I you know explain it to me. Please we go in we attack a country we take over the country Oh, you want us to stay okay? No problem. We'll stay Yeah, yeah the French told the Germans the same thing in World War II. They told them they really enjoyed their company. Yeah. And they loved the fact that they were doing a really good job in Paris. Have some cheese. And they really liked the fact that the Germans would go down to Bordeaux and steal all the wine cellars. You can take that to the bank. Yeah. That's really nice. So that was about all I got out of that. Now, however, I know- It was a waste of one day. A full day. And they actually had to break away, C-SPAN had to break away to tell you what else was coming up. Otherwise, you know, they're like, hey, are you still awake? There's more coming up on C-SPAN, more riveting testimony. Hey, wake up!

1:07:45 Okay, so there's a something horrible horrible hit is taking place now and all of a sudden everything started to click together for me. Yeah, so we've been hearing these reports and actually I have one of these said reports, but it's it's repetitive about Actually, let me go back. Libya. John, when the first resolution was signed, Resolution 1970, which came just days before Resolution 1973, and we read both resolutions here on the air, we went through them. Resolution 1970 called for something very specific. Resolution 1970 said, we need to send the United Nations Human Rights Council into Libya to make sure that, you know,

1:08:33 like there's not some human rights violations going on otherwise we might have to do something that we put in in resolution 1973 and you and I discussed on this very program that they said okay well you know we'll have the report done somewhere around June, June, July you know we got to go to Libya we got to do our reporting so we're gonna go we'll come back we'll let you know and then three days later here's resolution 1973 two days later we're bombing everybody. We did not wait for the human rights Human Rights Council report. There was no time. Well that came in. Oh no it did? Oh yes it did. It takes forever, no wonder we couldn't wait. Well it's actually it's right on time it's around the time they said they said you know it'll be around June. Okay so what did it say? 90 pages and before I say that what have we been hearing everyone talk about?

1:09:30 Gaddafi is giving his troops Viagra so they can systematically rape people. They're using as stiff penises as weapons of mass destruction. These guys are horrible. Throw more bombs on them. That's pretty much what we've heard from the president of the International Criminal Court, from Hillary Lucifer Clinton. This is what they're all saying. You know why they're all saying this, John? Because that's the only thing in the report that is somewhat conclusive. I read through all 90 pages last night and let me highlight. So of course the first thing you want to do is you want to go to the conclusion paragraph. Finally the Commission feels that at this stage it is not in a position to identify those responsible as requested by the Human Rights Council in the resolution establishing its mandate. In other words, there might be something going on but we don't know exactly who's doing it. Okay.

1:10:27 So remember now, your president told you, slaughter, massacre, we have to stop it, it's all horrible, it can't go on. So let's look at some of the general observations. And the report is, it is worth a read because the use of words is hilarious. With regards to the use of weaponry, the commission is concerned concerned that the Libyan authorities have not been making appropriate and precautionary assessments which would, in the Commission's view, militate against the use of weapons such as mortars in densely populated urban areas. In other words, they're not throwing mortars, they're concerned that they aren't taking precautions that it might happen. Further investigation, however, including forensic analysis, would be needed to confirm use of any of these ammunitions at all.

1:11:19 The consistent pattern of violations identified, so there are violations, by the way, both sides, both the rebels and the Libyan government, this is throughout the entire report, well it's both sides, we're not quite sure who's doing what. The consistent pattern of violations identified creates an inference that they were carried out as a result of policy decisions by Colonel Gaddafi. An inference. What does that mean, John? Inference. No, it means that A leads to B. Or A implies B or there's a possibility that what we think is happening is happening because of this. Or in other words, in this same paragraph, the commission received some information concerning individual perpetrators of crimes, but more investigation is also required on this issue. And it goes on and on and on and on. They have no conclusive evidence.

1:12:13 The only thing that's in this report where they actually have a person that they spoke to. Section 212, sexual abuse. Reports of rape committed by government forces have been recounted by numerous persons with whom the Commission met. The Commission had the opportunity to speak with only one victim of rape. What? Only one victim of rape. I thought everyone was getting raped. No. Miss Iman al-Obaidi, whose case of gang rape by government forces has been well publicized by the media, allegations of rape committed by armed opposition forces and armed civilians were made to the commission by other persons, including in some cases family members. The number of cases reported was small. Don't say how small, just small.

1:13:00 However, the Commission recognizes the difficulties in collecting evidence in cases of sexual violence, including victims' reluctance to disclose information because in Libya, the fact that Libyan criminal law punishes the flogging by flogging sexual relations outside of a lawful marriage. So what they're saying is that only one person would tell them about this systemic issuance of Viagra to make people, to make Libyan forces rape women, weapons of mass destruction. She was highly publicized by the media. By the way, throughout the entire report they continuously referred to CNN reports, MSNBC reports.

1:13:38 that's kind of like well this was reported so we think this is going on but you know we couldn't really find anyone to say anything about it. Couldn't prove it. Of course the CNN and the rest of them are getting it from Twitter who are getting it from Hillary who are the whole thing. You're jumping a little bit ahead but you're right on. More speculative information repeated what was that members of the Kataeb were found with condoms and Viagra pills leading those recounting these occurrences to suggest that troops were given instructions to engage in rape, that they were supplied with both the pills and the condoms. So Kataeb

1:14:16 like well hold on a second you have to well you know what you have to do don't you wait wait wait well I think we should do that but I'm wondering why a rapist it was supposed to win rape in a war situation is a way to kind of in in call that you put kind of push your genetic structure into another unknown population why why condoms Why a rapist wants a condom? Hold on a second, I'm going to rape you but I want to make sure it's safe sex. This is horrible. This is so horrible that we have to laugh about it because it is a laughable thing. So this is why you get reports like this in the mainstream media.

1:15:01 Hello and welcome. War crimes are alleged by both sides in the Libyan conflict. Now, the International Criminal Court says there is evidence that Colonel Gaddafi ordered his forces to use rape as a weapon of war. Now that's a blatant lie. That's a lie because we're looking at the report. There is no evidence that Colonel Gaddafi... In fact it says it's not Colonel Gaddafi, it's the Qadda'eb, which is not Gaddafi. So it's a blatant lie here from the BBC. This comes as the United Nations Human Rights Council prepares to meet in Geneva to debate a report which also alleges that Libyan opposition forces were involved in acts of torture. Daniel Griffiths has the latest.

1:15:42 The battle for Libya, a brutal conflict that's left thousands dead. Both sides have been accused of war crimes. The UN is debating the issue later today. Now though, Colonel Gaddafi faces fresh allegations of abuses from the chief prosecutor of the International Criminal Court. This time that his forces have used rape as a weapon of war. Rapes in Libya were not normally the normal tactic to attack alleged dissidents, but now we are confirming that the, we have information confirming there was a policy to rape in Libya those who were against the government. Okay, so let me just read you the conclusion of sexual abuse in this very report this guy, this

1:16:33 This douchebag is citing the commission received but was unable to verify individual accounts of rape. However, the commission notes there was sufficient information received to justify further investigation to ascertain the extent of sexual violence, including whether cases were linked to incitement by the commander of either side. It is evident that the reports of the rapes have had a major psychological and social impact and have spread fear among the population. Given that accounts given accounts that rape was committed as part of a policy to spread such fear further investigation would be warranted." In other words, inconclusive, certainly not what this guy just said. His policy, Gaddafi, you know made his troops go out and rape.

1:17:19 So they are desperately trying to use this whole rape and Viagra thing to justify going in and bombing people, bombing a sovereign nation with a lie. Oh you're so stunned. They lied! Yeah, when people get... Because they lie! Yeah, well, when... Yes! Yes! John, give me a break here. I'm reading the actual report. These people... The douchebag of the internet... No, we do on this show! Why has this one got you more upset than... I'll tell you why. The other one thousand... I'll tell you why. I'm gonna tell you why because what do we then have to do? And this even got Mickey.

CHAPTER 14 / 27 Discussion

CNN Misrata Rocket Attack Coverage, Emotional Propaganda

CNN and anchor Don Lemon are criticized for using the story of a five-year-old girl injured in a Misrata rocket attack to generate emotional support for the Libyan intervention. The hosts characterize the reporting as a PR tactic to distract from the lack of evidence regarding state-sponsored atrocities.

cnn· don lemon· misrata· libya· propaganda

1:18:06 And miss Mickey is on the ball, and we almost we almost had an argument about this although I thwarted it in my usual manner I was just like shut up curry shut up. Just just go about your business Can I pour you some tea darling? So of course this is not working. You know we got the rape thing the Viagra thing you know curry and Dvorak are laughing at us Get CNN on the call wolf blitzer blitzer blitzer. We need a report oh A rocket attack in Misrata, Libya. A house all but destroyed. A story all too common in Libya. I'm sorry, Don Lemon. It's civil war.

1:18:43 But there's a face of the story now we really want you to see. A face! There's a face to the story. So we don't have any actual proof of any crimes of slaughter and cutting people's heads off or we had to go and bomb them and throw predator drones but we have a face. We have a face and Don Lemon will bring you the face and listen to the tone of his voice. The face of a five-year-old girl. whose brother and sister were killed in the blast. She survived, but lost her right leg. I want you now to watch this from our Sarah Seidner. I want you now to watch this. This is the face of Libya. Five-year-old Malak is cranky. She just woke up from an afternoon nap. I used to be able to play and run around, she says.

1:19:39 But now my legs been shot off for my lack life will never be the same again At the height of the siege of Misrata a rocket almost certainly fired by almost certainly fired Almost certainly fires reporting we're getting almost certain. They don't know anything this I Yeah, this is a bogey and little kids that are damaged in these war zones don't make these, they don't lament stuff like that. They're just sad. Of course. And so it's a heart-wrenching, gut-wrenching, you know, tear your guts out through your throat story. Yeah, it's done by a PR company.

1:20:18 Oh my god, and you just sit there like, and it got Mickey right? And I'm like, honey, it's a PR job. They can't convince us any other way until we have to get a small child who of course, this is horrible. But it's like, have we seen this of the million Iraqis? Here's Abdul, he used to live in Baghdad until his head got blown off. No, we didn't see that one, did we? I don't remember those reports. Oh, here's Colonel so-and-so, proud US Marine who got his head blown off and didn't come home to his kids. As CNN Don Lemon, Don Lemon, Don Lemon, DON LEMON, you're a douchebag for even working there. They're all douchebags. So it, yeah, it really, really irked me that that's what they have, that's what they're resorting to. So now CNN is just doing the whole Pentagon propaganda.

CHAPTER 15 / 27 Discussion

Ron Paul CNN Interview, NATO Mission Creep

Representative Ron Paul appeared on CNN to argue that the US intervention in Libya is unconstitutional and driven by commercial interests. Paul criticized NATO for shifting from a defensive alliance to an aggressive organization involved in regime change, warning of potential blowback and unnecessary financial costs.

ron paul· cnn· nato· libya· regime change

1:21:13 Well actually this is all it seems to be. I think this war has been taken over by MI6 or the Brits. Because that's why they're making these kind of huge blunders like that BBC report. That's way off the mark when you have the report in front of you and it's completely contradictory. This doesn't sound like our guys. Well, but I don't care about any of that. You know what's actually great? Dr. Ron Paul, who's on the CNN Express, everybody. Of course, Monday we have the big Republican debate, which does not include Gary Johnson, unfortunately. And he gets asked about this. And Ron Paul, you gotta love Ron Paul. Because, he says exactly the way it is.

1:22:12 But it is a real insult to the American people and it's an insult to Congress for him to say I don't even need to tell you all I need to do is get a UN resolution and then use the force through the through NATO NATO was set up to fight and stand up against the communists so they're searching for a mission instead of now defending Europe and they're starting wars. On the bigger question, do you think the administration's goal and the policy of the United States should be regime change in Libya? Absolutely not. It's none of our business. We ought to just stay out of it. None of our business. None of our business. We don't need to be in there. That's a commercial business going over there. And that's why the British have commercial interests, the British and the French have commercial interests, and I'm sure we do too. We've been doing business with Qaddafi for the past five years.

1:23:01 and uh... and now the oil is over in the east that's where the rebels are and i understand that there's a very likely some uh... some al-qaeda there so we're probably inadvertently and uh... getting involved in something that is going to have blowback and a consequence Already we have the consequences costing way too much money. We don't have any money and we're getting involved there and it's not going to be in our self-interest. This is detrimental. Do you worry at all? There you go. I love Dr. Ron Paul. Is he going to be in the debate on Monday? Yes, he is in the debate. It's not of our business. It's a commercial business. The Chinese were there. They were like weaseling in on our business.

1:23:41 I think that point he really likes that he makes that which is important to note is that NATO yes when did NATO begin becoming an aggressive organization that starts wars well we because they're the army he's right did NATO is set up to defend Europe against an onslaught from some from somebody attacking it But instead, we're creating a supposed no-fly zone. I've never seen so many bombs dropped on a no-fly zone situation. It's ridiculous. We got consultants on the ground.

1:24:22 So I will wrap up. So you're just basically annoyed by the fact that they exploited this little girl? Well, not only that, but I can read and it's insulting to me when I read the report. It's linked in the show notes at 312.nashownotes.com. It's linked right there. You can read through it yourself and you go like, huh? And everywhere it's like alleged, asserted, unconfirmed. It's like, and you know, the Human Rights Committee They don't want to get caught with their pants down, so to speak. They don't want to lie. So they're just like putting in all kinds of fancy, not even fancy language, it's language I, a high school graduate can understand. It's like, okay, so you have nothing. You certainly don't have, I don't have any of the clips, but our president now saying, ladies and gentlemen, we have to go in immediately. We have to stop all of this.

CHAPTER 16 / 27 Discussion

Syria Helicopter Gunship Reports, Media Misinformation

Fox News and Shep Smith reported that Syrian government helicopter gunships fired on protesters, though the report noted that no one was killed. The hosts question the validity of these claims, suggesting that firing machine guns from five gunships into a crowd would inevitably result in high casualties if the reports were accurate.

syria· fox news· shep smith· gunships· misinformation

1:25:13 We have to stop because the slaughter is killing everybody and we have no proof. There's no proof, inconclusive evidence. Now, before we go to our break, John, I just want to finish up the Arab Spring if I may. Are you okay with that? Yeah. Okay. So of course I had my bets on Syria being next. It could have gone either way. We should have had a pool bet. We should have had a pool bet because it could be Yemen or Syria and even though we're bombing Yemen, we're doing a good job. Predator drones, hellfire, everybody. Al Qaeda, Al Qaeda, Predator drones. Another war that would just

1:25:52 I don't know. Al-Qaeda, war, predator drones. Syria seems to be on deck. And the Secretary of State came out with, that would be Hillary, Lucifer, lesbian Clinton, came out with a statement. The President came out with a statement, Syria, you got to stop. This has got to stop. And of course we want it the same script as Libya, the exact same script. What do we have now? Well, Shep over there at Fox News can tell us all about all the dangerous things that are taking place in which we have no actual eyewitness reports or video. There is breaking news now on Fox News Channel and we're getting word that for the first time helicopter gunships from the Syrian government are now firing machine guns at crowds of anti-government protesters there.

1:26:34 We're told this is the first use of any air power as the Syrian government works to quash the rebellion in that country. Of course, we do have people there. But we don't have a video. Human Rights Group reports no one was killed by the assault from the helicopters. Oh, no one was killed. Hold on a second. Let me get this straight. You have a mob of people, God knows a million, and you have a machine gun. Five, five, five gunships. And you fire on the crowd and nobody gets killed? I can't, I missed! How does that work? Well, these guys are not the best shot. No one was killed and of course we don't have any video. We have people on the ground but no one on the phone. If you take a machine gun, one machine gun and fire it into a limitless crowd, whereas they drop in the front of the package. It's like fish in a barrel. Fish in a barrel. Fish in a barrel, you'd kill hundreds.

CHAPTER 17 / 27 Discussion

Gay Girl in Damascus Blog Hoax, Amina Abdallah

The "Gay Girl in Damascus" blog, purportedly written by Amina Abdallah, was exposed as a hoax after the photos used were identified as Jelena Lecic, a woman living in London. The hosts suggest the blog was a State Department or intelligence operation designed to influence public opinion against the Syrian regime through social media.

syria· amina abdallah· gay girl in damascus· bbc· blog hoax

1:27:29 All right, so where is all this misinformation coming from? And then I'm getting off the air of spring when I talk about other things, but this proves the point. We have Jerry Paxman, who I like a lot actually. He's one of the big anchors of BBC. And he does the night line, Nightly News. Night Week or whatever. Yeah, I mean, he's MKUltra, but I like the guy. And so apparently there was this gay female Syrian blogger. Okay, and She was openly gay against all I mean you for a woman. She's blogging She's openly gay, and then all I know if you followed this story John odd mm-hmm Then she was like kidnapped you know Kidnapped and taken and beaten what? Everyone's reporting on this so in the studio and

1:28:20 They have two people they have the woman whose picture was used For this apparent gay female blogger who was just sitting in England going what hey, that's me. I'm not gay I'm not blogging. I'm not in Syria And then they have a London-based Syrian blogger, which is even better. Like, they're so blatant now. We're not even going to pay guys to sit in Syria and pretend. We're just going to have them in London and have them pretend. Listen to the conversation. She's a little boring, but I just want to play it all. I won't interrupt it. And then listen to what he says, because that just, that just, it's a techno expert from beginning to end. Same script, using Twitter and blogs and social media to make you believe that all these atrocities are taking place. This is Amina Aboula's blog. A gay girl in Damascus is a young woman's account of life in Syria. The blog which brought Amina to international prominence contains details about her sexuality and open criticism of the Assad regime.

1:29:22 But this week, it appeared the authorities had finally had enough. After what seems to have been her arrest on Monday, a campaign was launched. Photos of Amina were relayed around the world. But they weren't photos of Amina. They were, as might be wise in a police state, proxy shots. Images she had been using all along to hide her real identity. But they were pictures of someone,… …and that someone is Jelena Lechic, a woman from London. What has happened to Amina… …has also had profound implications for her as well.

1:30:02 And here with me is Jelena Lecic and the British-based Syrian blogger Mahmoud Hamad. You are confident that this woman whose face appears on the blog of the gay girl in Damascus is you? Yes, this is absolutely my... By the way, it's her. And by the way, if I was to cast an awesome, interesting, hot-looking gay lesbian blogger from Syria, bing! She'd be the one. My picture has been taken last year in Paris. So you know where this picture came from? Yes. How does it then come to decorate a blog allegedly coming out of Damascus? I don't know, I absolutely don't know. I saw my picture on a Guardian online story and there was my picture published and before I know it, it was everywhere. Guardian was the main credible

1:30:54 media and I was very upset to see my picture because obviously I mean I'm not you're you know I but you're not just in this country you're all over the world yes yeah it's been like It's been very upsetting. Had this picture been posted by you or one of your friends? Apparently, the picture's been taken from my Facebook account. By the way, that's the way they spin the story, is like, beware when you upload your pictures, it might be used in Syria or by the State Department. Amina Abdullah's got a blog and there's about

1:31:35 thousands of followers and supporters obviously campaigning for Amina to be freed. And apart from this picture, there's a couple of other pictures used. I have no clue. I never met Amina. I'm not part of her blog. I'm not friends with her. Now here it comes. It's absolutely astonishing. Somebody's been using my pictures and obviously campaigning with my face on it. Matt, what about, are you sure that this woman, gay girl in Damascus actually exists? Well I couldn't tell you that for sure. I don't know of anyone who has spoken to her in person, to be honest. All our communications was through emails. She's not! She's at the State Department! She's one of Hillary Clinton, Lucifer Clinton's techno experts! Hey, Andy Karvin!

1:32:31 Andy Carvin! Genius at NPR! How you doing with that retweet campaign, boy? I just gotta pick on him. So there you go. That to me is conclusive evidence. Well, I don't know how conclusive it is, but it's damn good evidence. Well, to me it's conclusive. Well, it's conclusive to me, too. Yeah, exactly. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. Yeah, on No Agenda! That's right, take it from Paul and John. Okay, so we have, we got the new spreadsheet in with the unconcantinated comments, so I do have to go back to Arad Darian or Black Knight and read the final... Wait, can you just read that for a second? I have to then get it from the other computer, I want to read along. So you start. Yeah, okay. He just talked about how the tank of gas is about 220 bucks on the van.

CHAPTER 18 / 27 Discussion

Producer Donations, Career Karma Requests

A lengthy segment dedicated to listener donations includes stories of career struggles and "karma" requests. Notable mentions include Justin Seitz in Pittsburgh, Peter J. Boyle in San Francisco, and Lexi Horstenegger in Paris, all of whom contributed to the show while navigating the difficult job market.

karma· donations· pittsburgh· san francisco· recruitment

1:33:32 And he says if you find yourself in Orange County, California, please feel welcome to stop by my wife is Lebanese We should be able to get some stuff from some ideas from her and it's an awesome cook She's agreed to make you an authentic Lebanese dinner, and I'm John it also has a standing invitation Keep up the good work back. Please play trains good planes bad for his daughter grace She walks around the house singing it to herself all the board trains good planes bad There you go, Gracie. So, uh, Justin Seitz, Seitz, Seitz, S-E-I-T-Z in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Last name is a long I silent E, Sightz, Sightz. Well done. Yeah, he got it eventually. Sightz.

1:34:18 Justin sites of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania good beautiful place by the way people always think of Pittsburgh is kind of an industrial grimy place It's really actually quite pretty no it is I used to go there all the time billion bridges. It's just the damnedest thing Any hundred dollars eleven cents for special karma plus a three ten thirty four ten for the PI Club would like a de douching and karma for my search for I'm sorry that was me. I do I'd douche myself so it's the it's the Pi Club and for 314 which is coming up as well. Okay, double shot for you. You've been de-douched. You've got karma. Not quite as good as the one, uh, the last show. No, I'm working on it. Double nickels on the dime and mothership boarding pass payment will be on the way next.

1:35:03 Ryan Miller photography in Whittier, California one two three four five I love the show must donate Please plug my Facebook group status of substance dedicated to sharing and discussing the news hushed by the mainstream media Well, that sounds like a good group. You better move that over to something else. Oh Because it'll be hushed off of Facebook. Yeah, probably eventually it's true Beth Amman in Emeryville, California. Hey John and Adam I love to give birthday shout out to my fiance Joe longtime listener the show he's turning 25 on June 12th I wish him heaps of karma on his special day. We're both looking forward to the Gitmo Nation road trip and hope to see you soon in the Bay Area. Yeah, he's on the list. If he ever gets out here. Michael Bowling, or Bowling, in Watsonville, California. Bowling, I believe. Bowling. 1111, you were so close but still got Dvorak'd. My last name is pronounced like the game bowling, which I did say. Did I say bowling, bowling, bowling, bowling? I said both ways. He got, you got, you Dvorak'd him, boy.

1:36:01 Dvorak. You know I prided myself with my ability to pronounce names. Do you know how many emails I get from Dutch people that just email me regardless? What do the Dutch people expect from those crazy names? Here's how the Dutch people email me. Hi Adam, hail the foot. They love it so much. You're a hit. You could be the next prime minister of the Netherlands. No problem. We'll make you king. King Dvorak of Ho-land. So I had to make a donation to hear it right. Bowling, bowling, bowling, bowling. Michael bowling there. I have also had to do some karma and donate to his girlfriend Laura's having trouble with her new job. Keep up the good work and keep sifting through the BS. Alright, for your girlfriend Laura, absolutely. You've got karma. I'll do the, I got two karma stories but I'll do that after the thing.

1:36:57 Peter J Boyle in San Francisco, California, 1111. In the morning from the highest point in Gitmo Nation, Knob Hill, huh? Hey, I'm waving! Please propagate the formula even though I've been a boner not a boner for a long time. Friends, Friends, I've hit in the mouth become producers before me aka Benjamin Nettius. It's kind of a hard to donate when you have a 30k in student loans. There you go. It's a theme. It's a theme. No, but here it is. Here's someone who is I don't think he has a job. He has $30,000 in student loans and is supporting the show. That that is a true American. I know the people in India in particular should take note. Yeah. Hello. Hello. Hello everybody.

1:37:42 Wind up where anyways he's wind up working in retail after college for three years before getting a real job and now that I make money they garnish 700 a month that just moved to San Francisco from New York via a big technology company like to thank John C for getting me into the show and Adam for keeping me listening. Well, thank you very much John's the bait and And I'm the meal. I'm the juicy steak. Wait, let me give him a little extra karma for that one. Yeah, thank you. You've got karma. We have a birthday. You have to put it on the list. It's not on the list, but he wants to wish his beautiful dame Caroline Hochberg a happy 24th.

1:38:25 put it on the list that needs a de-douching and would like to call out my friend Paul Barbetta as a douchebag. Okay hold on, who do we do douchebag first? Yes for Paul and then he needs a de-douching. And a double shout just de-douching. I'm trying to catch up Dame Caroline Huxbergen was that who's... Huxberg H-O-C-H-B-E-R-G. Huxberg okay Dame Dame Caroline Huxberg. Harker's beautiful Dame. Oh, so I don't know if it's I don't think so Thomas Nussbaum sir Thomas Nussbaum to you. Yes, Virginia Beach, Virginia 111 11 He's the number six or Nate Nicole and her birthday today. We got that on there. Please give a triple of Okay, can you do this? You have a milf a hot pockets? Wait a milf a hot pockets and in the morning. Oh

1:39:22 I can certainly try. It's not always easy. That's one mother I'd like to f***. Uh, oh it says, none of us from Kyoto is okay. Thanks, keep up the great stuff and blah blah blah. Say hi to the shill. Hey shill. A hundred dollars from anonymous. Daniel Scott in Dallas, Texas. Double nickels on the dime. Hi John and Adam, I'm a monthly contributor but need some extra karma for a new job I've applied for in South Korea.

1:40:00 Wish him luck. One of the final candidates there for the job. Absolutely. Here you go. You've got karma. And South Korea has to be a lot of fun. We'll get some information from him if he gets there. Sir Craig Stone, Rapid City, South Dakota, double nickels on the dime. He sent us an email. Steven Anto in Toledo, Ohio in the morning looking for a government, working for the government, AmeriCorps, which is a temporary service that's ending soon. I'm eager to try to find new employment. My beautiful fiancé, Amanda Ramirez, also a listener, is on the job hunt as well. We could each use some karma. I'll say now I don't intend to believe in American karma. uh... and he has some reason for that but i do believe in hyper signals and i'm willing to dig deep in desperation daily give a car my now open up your heart my friend here and open your shockers you've got karma and he's requesting a take your medicine jingle sometime during the show uh... well it's all i want to do it now and i was really

1:41:08 And then we have a birthday call out, another one that's not listed because it came in the mail from Jeff Briggs in Cumming, Georgia. He needs to wish his son Joe Briggs a happy birthday. He's a recent graduate and I know he'll be a future knight, double nickels on the dime. uh... from an underworked a real estate agent also interested donor has a lot of what he had made you are and then that's just three fifty dollar donations from george scanlon carpenters bill absurd mike westerfield and tristan wilson kerrigan and padbury western australia we want to thank everybody and everyone else who donated even lesser amounts

1:41:43 uh... to the show it would be a good every bit helps and we really appreciate the support for this show today and it's just a couple people uh... who'd i know want uh... a little bit of help we didn't quite make the fifty uh... as shana williams uh... her fortieth birthday is uh... this coming uh... sunday she wanted a uh... she made a forty dollar donation i guess for a birthday and she won a milf karma combo shout out so Well, well. In the morning heroes, hail the foot! Says Lexi Horstenegger. Rhymes with.

1:42:28 Been a long time boner from Hofdorp, Gitmo Nation lowlands, but finally became a donor by subscribing to the $11.11 a month plan. I've been in search of a job since January this year, finally managed to get through the first two recruitment rounds with a potential new employer in Gitmo City useless glass pyramid, which is Paris. However, they are now in the process of deciding who to hire and I do feel I will need some karma to become the chosen slave This coming Wednesday is D-Day. So if you could please I know I'm not at the right amount karma me up on Sunday That'd be great if I end up getting the job or any other job I will pretty much instantly be able to free up more funds to support your awesome work And I want one of those fancy night rings, so we'll call this an investment karma. You've got karma Sometimes just got to do that

1:43:16 It does seem to work for some reason. Well, whatever works the way I see it. So we highly appreciate everyone supporting this show and we don't play commercials, you probably noticed that maybe? We don't let ourselves be interrupted like our national treasure. You know, another thing, even when we do this break and we thank people for giving us specific amounts of money, we actually... it's incorporating the show in an entertaining way that actually brings you know we have more information there's stuff in these notes and people tell us stuff that's kind of cool so it's not it's not it's not just a big plug no it's a learning experience we we learn about children from other lands and we make up entire new languages which is great hail the foot every hello everybody hail the foot wouldn't it be crazy if the president came out you should record that hello everybody hail the foot live the american dream

CHAPTER 19 / 27 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony, Sir Norman McDonough

Norman McDonough is officially knighted as "Sir Norman McDonough" for his cumulative contributions exceeding $1,000. The hosts describe the official No Agenda knight rings, which feature mirror-script engraving for leaving imprints, and encourage other producers to work toward their own knighthood.

knighthood· norman mcdonough· night ring· producers· no agenda

1:44:12 I'm just getting by. Hail the foot! You carried that pretty well that time. I'm working on it. I say in six months you'll nail it. Mickey says if you just took one day. I'm like which day would that be? That's true. You know if you actually sat down with a recorder and you had some of his speeches and you worked like a professional comic would do, you probably could get it. That's why those guys are all on Zoloft. I'm not gonna do that. Hey, so we appreciate that. Of course our executive producers We do have the pie club coming up 314. That'll be in two episodes from now. The three three three club is on its way This is a magical year if you take the age of your That you have become or will become this year and add that To the last two digits of the year you were born in you probably might come up with something like 111 if you do we have several plans for you there you can find it all at

1:45:04 DeVorek.org slash N-A And of course if you work towards your knighthood, we've got these fantastic rings, comes in a nice velour presentation box. It's in mirror script so you hit someone in the mouth. It leaves an imprint of in the morning. No agenda podcast. We'll have pictures of it up pretty soon but we also give you some sealing wax to practice so you can see what the indentation will look like and and a certification of your official knighthood and We have actually you might as well draw your blade John if you can get it out for there for a second. Oh

1:45:42 Norman McDonough, step forward my friend. Soon the UPS man will be showing up at your doorstep. I sound like a game show. And he will bring you a trip to the Bahamas. No, actually it'll be the coveted night ring because you have now supported the No Agenda podcast show in excess of $1,000. Therefore we proudly pronounce the Sir Norman McDonough Knight of the And I'm looking forward to many many many more nights. It's gonna be great Also, thanks everyone who's been sending miss Mickey emails we have about 80 invitations now across get mo nation for the Hot Pockets 2008 tour and

1:46:32 And you can find it at HotPockets2008.com. We've already posted our first route in KML. So there's all kinds of stuff we can do and we can still use some design there. Also, I forgot to mention domains.nashownotes.com needs some design help. So if you're any good at CSS, we could use some help there. And of course, episode 312, once it's all posted, you can design the entire website, which is 312.nashownotes.com if you are any good at CSS. Which, John, I don't understand CSS. That's like mumbo-jumbo to me. It's actually not that hard. Well then why don't you do a nice design? Because I'm not a designer. I'm mediocre. I can use it but to actually use it where it actually looks great, it takes somebody that does it all the time. Can you just say you're mediocre again? What? Just say, I'm mediocre. No. You don't want me to use it for the opening, do you?

1:47:33 Dvorak.org slash NA is where you can go to show your support for the program or channel Dvorak.com slash NA or the fine looking NoahGeneration.com Dvorak.org slash NA It's your birthday, birthday Actually turned out to be quite a list. We've got Guava Tools saying happy birthday to his twins Elliot and Elise Bonin and Davey Donan. They turn two on the ninth so I guess they already turned two. Beth Ammons says happy birthday to her fiance Joe. He turns 25 on the 12th. That's tomorrow. Thomas Nussbaum.

CHAPTER 20 / 27 Discussion

New York Times Sunday Edition Deconstruction

A new feature deconstructs the front page of the Sunday New York Times, focusing on a photo of an Afghan volunteer using a MacBook in rubble. The hosts mock the image as a blatant advertisement for Apple and analyze headlines regarding the killing of an Al-Qaeda leader in Somalia and US efforts to bypass internet censors abroad.

new york times· afghanistan· apple· macbook· al-qaeda

1:48:13 As in Nicole's birthday is today, so happy birthday from Thomas. Also happy birthday to Joe Briggs and happy birthday to Caroline Huckberg from all of your buddies here at the NOAHgender show. So yeah I want to thank everybody. Now I've got a new feature I want to introduce to the show. Oh I always love a new feature because that usually requires a jingle. And what it is, is I've decided after listening to the Hummer, the new executive editor of the New York Times, I've taken out a subscription to the New York Times and I'm going to have to... Wait, it's worked! I'm gonna have, I wanna watch it, I wanna watch. And so the Sunday New York Times is different than the rest of the week and this is the number, one of the biggest publications in the world and it goes out to every, people, a lot of people just subscribe to the Sunday New York Times. Only for Sunday, yeah, sure. I am going to deconstruct the front page of the Sunday New York Times and, cause all the messages that they're trying to get to the, from the

1:49:07 ministry of truth are on the sunday from the whole week right they sum it all up well actually is this did it to me it's a lot different than for the sunday new york times front page it did in the messaging is much more blatant as one two three four five six stories basically all you have to deal with and that a giant photo which has nothing to do with anything but this photos can't interesting because besides being a blatant plug for apple computing It's kind of a crock of shit pictures a guy leaning over a guy and let me just read you the thing says volunteers have built a wireless internet around Jalalabad Afghanistan from off-the-shelf electronics and ordinary materials right like like transistor radios so you gotta get some people who got to get this just to cut this photo out it's a guy hunched over a MacBook talking on a walkie-talkie and a little kid standing next to him with a pair of high

1:50:01 With a coat hanger tell me the code binoculars and he's looking out for the bad guys, I guess I have no idea Hello, Mohammed. Can you receive my Wi-Fi? Hello? Hello, Mohammed? Can you receive my Wi-Fi? so wait a minute maybe maybe that picture is on the website it's the stupidest thing I've ever seen and big Apple logo as a payback is that New York Times or stooges for Apple now you think and so anyway so that we have so that's the joke of it then we have these you can kind of fear why are these stories being run and this is the emphasis point so they're gonna come up in the upcoming election

1:50:40 And I'll just read the headlines. So Molly's I see the picture It's fantastic hold on a second I get in an ad and go away The kid is like on the lookout and he's like he's got his MacBook and he's got like an IKEA plastic Rack and he's sitting on rubble is in rubble and he's on a I see your wifi signal. Dinter Lollibird, hello. Off the shelf ordinary electronics. Yes! Wow, and it's a brand... it's like... so he's in rubble. Brand new. Not a scratch on it. I'm loving the new... Lion is rocking. OSX Lion rocks. Oh wow, how convenient that they release OSX Lion and he's running it. Unbelievable.

1:51:32 Anyway, so that picture you have to put a link to the show notes because people just have to see this because it's hilarious Anyway, Somalis kill man behind bombings of US embassies al-qaeda leader shot. This is a story that we don't know any who this Supposedly, I don't know how they knew who this guy was and now they killed him This is Obama's the meme that Obama kills terrorists at George Bush couldn't kill this just something that can be used in the future election Obama's tough terrorists and he's killing them as opposed to Bush who couldn't kill any of them. Right. So that's a meme and then the other one on the other side of that that's a top headline by the way US underwrites internet detour around censors and it's about aiding dissidents abroad we're trying to

1:52:13 This is interesting because we're trying to censor our own internet here in the US of A and they're bragging about how we're trying to uncensor everybody else's. Afghan Taliban seed ground in the south but fears linger. This is one of those pro-let's stay in Afghanistan stories. Wiener agrees to get treatment as calls for resignation intensify. More of the pressure to get rid of this guy. I need treatment! I'm telling you there's something behind that. And then we get the last two, which is too big to fail or too trifling for oversight, which is trying to push the agenda of more regulations. And then the kicker, the one that I think, which is below the fold, but I think it's got into the other photo.

1:52:52 a photo of a mean-looking German shepherd being held by some blonde chick going after some guy and in the background is a mansion and the headline says for the executive with everything a $230,000 dog to protect it. We should be sending the message that the rich are so, they need to be taxed to death because there are a bunch of creeps and this picture with a woman holding the leash, you know, this dog is up in his back legs scowling at this guy holding something to be bitten. and it's like, okay, the rich have gone too far. They've spent $230,000 on a dog and then they bitch about being taxed extra and paying their fair share and that's what the message is in the New York Times this Sunday. It's all clear to me. We need a title for this little segment.

1:53:46 on the Sunday Times. Humming the Times with John C. Dvorak. The Sunday Times specifically. The rest of the week there's a real mixed bag of front pages I'm noticing and I'm looking at all of them and I figure you know this is the messaging system that's... Of the elite. of the elite nationally. It's the only paper that shows up everywhere and it's got, you know, the message are very clear. I like it. I like it. You know, even if we weren't doing this show, I'd probably call you up on Sunday and say, John, just tell me what's on the Sunday Times. Come on, tell me. But the picture of the kid with the binoculars and the guy with the MacBook is priceless. It's a beauty. It's a Pulitzer Prize. Yeah, it is. John Markoff story. John Markoff.

1:54:31 I think he's a shill. Did Markov do that story? Yeah, James Glanz, G-L-A-N-Z and John Markov. Well this is the US underwrites, okay, the internet. Yeah, well it's not as though anyone's over there. So who took this picture? Markov. Phil Schiller of Apple took the picture. Hi, I'm Phil Schiller. Here's your MacBook. Set it up, Blake. We'll show you how to set it up. Let me just install Lion. He's actually on the walkie-talkie with Schiller saying, hey, this thing won't boot. It's like, hey, I thought you said it would be in the App Store already. I was so underwhelmed by the WWDC keynote. Did you see that? No, you didn't watch it, did you?

CHAPTER 21 / 27 Discussion

Apple WWDC Keynote, Retirement Age Study

The recent Apple WWDC keynote is described as underwhelming, with Steve Jobs appearing out of breath and the stock price dropping following the event. This is contrasted with a MarketWatch report suggesting that low-income workers may not be able to retire until age 84, further challenging the modern American Dream.

steve jobs· apple· wwdc· retirement· marketwatch

1:55:16 I did, I watched it and wrote a whole column on it. Oh really? Yeah. What'd you say? I said that it was nothing revolutionary. I think I had the theory that Jobs actually probably wanted to show off that new building that they're gonna, that Alpa wants to build in Cupertino because that would have been a nice kicker to the keynote. right but then somebody advised him i'm guessing don't you can't do this until we talk to the city council because they're right they're gonna get all irked about it yeah yeah it's assuming that you already got the permissions and so the next day he went to the city council and it's on the youtube and he and he talked to the city council by building this building and that i'm absolutely convinced that he wanted to do it at the uh keynote but then it somebody screwed up

1:55:57 So because there was nothing at that keynote of you know, I was like really Gestures I got a gesture for you. Here's my gesture Okay, and poor Steve man, he's so out of breath, you know He can only do a couple things and he has to bring up Schiller and then Schiller has to bring up a guy who can actually demo the stuff some drone, you know, it's Nice, but it just the features I was like, okay. I Yeah, it wasn't much of a it wasn't it wasn't normal It's a for the first times that they've ever done a WWDC or any Mac event where the stock went down Oh really? I don't track that now. Did you write this for MarketWatch? No, yeah, okay, cuz I wait I was reading MarketWatch and Because I figure if if JCD is writing for MarketWatch, you know, it's worth reading. I subscribe to the RSS feeds Robert Powell, you know him. Yeah, was he any good?

1:56:48 Yeah, he's okay. Okay, he's a so he wrote headline many of us won't be able to retire until our 80s Which is like five years away from him for him apparently just look at his picture He needs to do a little work on the PR there, but it's even worse for low-income workers according to Jack Vander High one of the co-authors of study the impact of deferring retirement age on retirement income adequacy. Those who earn an average less than $11,700 a year, the lowest income quartile, would need to defer retirement until age 84. What kind of retirement is that? Every eight years of retirement, watch boom, I'm dead. Boom, I'm dead. Wow. I got one year I could retire. I got enough money to live one year. So let me see, where am I?

1:57:48 72 of a chance. The American dream. This is it, this is your American dream. Those who earn between $31,200 and $72,500 will need to work to age 72 to have a 50% chance of retiring at 65. And those who earn more than $72,500, that's the highest income quartile, catch a break, they get to stop working at age 65 to have a 50-50% chance of funding their retirement. That's your American dream. By selling everything. Right. It's called the reverse mortgage. I got another garage sale this weekend. I can live another week. We laugh, but we only laugh because... We laugh as we cry. We laugh at funerals too. So the World Bank and IMF were in the news in very interesting ways. And this came out right after we published the last show on Thursday.

CHAPTER 22 / 27 Discussion

Hillary Clinton World Bank Rumors, IMF Cyber Attack

Rumors circulated that Hillary Clinton was seeking a position at the World Bank, which the White House denied. Simultaneously, the IMF reported a major cyber attack, which the hosts interpret as a "hacker meme" setup to justify increased government oversight of the internet and the eventual requirement for digital licenses.

hillary clinton· world bank· imf· cyber attack· hackers

1:58:46 There was a and it was a AP report I believe Reuters or AP that said exclusive We've got an exclusive for you ladies and gentlemen former first lady and one-time political rival to President Barack Obama quickly became one of the most influential members of the cabinet she began to attend to the Satan letter 2009 Clinton and talks about possible move to World Bank Hillary Clinton wants the job said one source who knows the secretary well and A second source also said Clinton wants the position. A third source, see once you have three sources then you can publish the article, said Obama had already expressed support for the change in her role. It is unclear whether Obama has formally agreed to nominate her for the post which would require approval by the 187 member countries of the World Bank. White House Press Secretary Jay Carney denied the discussions. It's totally wrong, he told Reuters. A spokesman for Clinton

1:59:44 Philippe Reins denied Clinton won on the job had conversation with the White House about it or would accept it So what do you think is going on with this John? Why did this all of a sudden come out? Of course the World Bank being the yin to the yang for the IMF. Yeah Yeah, I was very weird very weird one thing. She's got no experience in that field and I think it was, I think they were actually trying, I think it was a job offer and then she decided to refuse it. Or you think she was fishing. It could also be a fish. It's one of the two. She might have been fishing but I think it was more of a, because the way she handled it was like, oh God, I didn't want that. It's like, you know, we got an out for you. You can quit. You know, we know you want to quit to run against the pressure. Yeah, because she actually said in her, when she was in France,

2:00:30 in a Champs-Elysees drinking cafe au lait. She said, I want to, after this, I want to live a life. I want to have dinner with... She did! I want to have dinner with friends. No more sorties for me. I want my matrial to be with me at all times and my lovely lesbian lover Huma Abedin at my side. Once we put two heads in the bullet of that scheisse of Antony Wiener. Okay, I'm making it all up. But she did say she wanted to go on vacation forever. And of course the World Bank is not where you want to be, the IMF is where all the money is at. See this is the joke, is the International Monetary Fund actually has the money. But it's a Ponzi scheme kind of thing, because I mean you're just, it's like we run the World Bank but IMF has all the power, but we actually, we are actually running the IMF in a sly way, you know, we tell them what to do. Well then of course we get this report!

2:01:27 The IMF is quite a target. An organisation based in Washington that holds sensitive economic details about many countries. This attack has been described as a very major breach. It claims a foreign government tried to install software inside the IMF and gain access to its files. It's claimed the attack happened over several months, but the IMF says its operations were fully functional and there was no reason to believe that any personal information was sought for the purposes of fraud. This is just the latest in a series of high-profile cyber security breaches in recent months. In April, the Sony PlayStation Network was shut down after hackers stole personal information from around 100 million accounts. Then in May, US defense company and Pentagon contractor Lockheed Martin said it had come under a significant cyber attack, and now the IMF.

2:02:24 This latest incident appears to be more cyber espionage than cyber war, but it is an area of real concern for the Obama administration. It is extremely important for us to do everything we can to confront that threat. We talk about nuclear, we talk about conventional warfare. We don't spend enough time talking about the threat of cyber war. So the whole thing is a setup? Oh yeah. The whole thing is a set. We've been calling for this. We brought, I don't have it circled, but we on one of the shows about, I don't know, five or six shows ago, we talked about the hacker meme.

2:03:02 and it's coming, it's on strong, and this is the, you know, every time I see these stories I go, here it comes, what are they gonna do now? By the way, this is the idea of the attack I think came from a, just an email that said, you too can win, click here. Yeah, take our Twitter survey. They're trying to install software. I took a Twitter survey and now we have a virus. Oh my goodness, yeah. No personal details. What do you mean personal details? My details aren't at the IMF. I don't have my credit card information at the IMF. What do they got? They got like... So... A lot of hacker stories this week in the New York Times. Yeah, by the way, you want to go to podcastlicense.com. Thank you very much everyone who bought a pod... Well, you didn't buy one. By donating $33.33,

2:03:52 You can get to it from podcastlicense.com or Dvorak.org slash na and you will get a podcast license And you'll need one very soon You'll need one so you might as well get in early and when you get that knock at the door It's like hey, what are you doing lone wolf excuse me? I'm officially licensed to podcast. Oh, okay carry on then you'll be good and We also are working on internet license org we have a few issues and setting that up, but So you'll have a full-blown internet license because the good you're gonna need it I got my license. I have it I got it from the Vork and curry That's right. You're good to go kid Do you hear the sound of the cuffs clinking on your wrist already because that's what's gonna happen But at least you tried

2:04:43 You can say, well then I was scammed. I thought I was getting a license. I mean, I also thought... I can see it now. Dvorak and Curry busted for scamming the public with phony baloney licenses. That's right. And then we'll have really unflattering pictures of us. Yeah. You know, like the worst ever. Yeah, like, right, right. They were... They were known for radicalizing hundreds on the interwebs. Note the hundreds. Radicalizing hundreds on the internet with their show, with their podcast, and their phony Ponzi scheme, they'll call it. And I can't understand, and they put John Hancock's signature on it. They falsified his signature. Forgery! That's right, forgery. We're scammers.

CHAPTER 23 / 27 Discussion

New Jersey Blogger Ruling, Federal Shield Law

The New Jersey Supreme Court ruled that a blogger is not a protected journalist under state law, specifically regarding the protection of anonymous sources. The hosts discuss the implications of a "two-tier" system for journalists and the push for a federal shield law, featuring commentary from Judy Miller.

new jersey· supreme court· bloggers· journalism· shield law

2:05:33 And Florida came out with something really interesting. By the way that whole clip that we just did right there will be used in court to get us all. It's when they do discovery that clip comes up. I wonder if we can get any illegal help when we need it. Do you think we have any lawyers? We got a lot of lawyers that listen to this show. Yeah we do have lawyers. Do you think that that would help? Yeah, they could probably know Probably like well. Well. Sorry guys. I got a family to feed I can't be I can't be dealing with that crap So, an interesting ruling came down in Florida about what constitutes a journalist. This is a question that... Oh yeah, this is a new meme that's cropping up. I'm convinced of it. Oh yeah, you want to talk about it? You want to hear the clip first? Play the clip. The Supreme Court of New Jersey makes a major ruling this week. I'm sorry, New Jersey. Florida, New Jersey. I should know better. Saying that a blogger is not a protected journalist. The case involved a blogger from Washington State.

2:06:35 Chief Justice Stuart Rabner wrote, to ensure that the privilege does not apply to every self-appointed news person, the New Jersey legislature requires that other means of disseminating news be similar to traditional news sources to qualify for the law's coverage. We do not find that online message boards are similar to the types of news entities listed in the statute. So I found that very interesting when I heard I've yet to read the actual ruling, but there is a difference between a blog and an online message board.

2:07:11 Yes, there is and it's possible, but I'm not sure they know what an online message board is and a blog could be considered one if it was set up a certain way. So, was it a blog or was it just a message board and then somebody just writing commentary on the message board which people do this with their four and if that commentary was perceived as a news item and or claimed as a news item when it wasn't. So, I don't know, I don't like any of this by the way because a blogger has the same rights as a newspaper guy. How do you, how can you justify what you say there, Mr. Dr. Dvorak? By the Constitution, I mean essentially the Bill of Rights gives us... The what? The what? The Bill of Rights. Like, what? We have no... The Constitution, you've heard of it. We don't know about, we don't get taught that in schools.

2:07:57 The Constitution? So people, you know, a journalist is what they produce a journal or they do a report or they do reporting and it's like that's all there is to it and it's guaranteed by the Constitution and for all practical purposes you can be a blogger doing it and what's the difference between the New York Times website and a blog? Yeah, we talk the same way. We can talk like that. There's just more people working at one than the other. That's the only, what is this has to be a limited number of people you have, so a blog like let's say the Huffington Post which is a blog more than anything but it has a lot of people working there so that qualifies because you got a lot of people working there as opposed to a one-man blog?

2:08:37 So I think we're safe because we have hundreds of producers. We have them working at knowagenthenewsnetwork.com. It says it right there, newsnetwork.com. It is the same, we do exactly what people, what journalists on television do. We can read prompter. If we had to go into court, we could say, we can do this, watch, give me a prompter and I'll show you how it's done. I think we're safe. You and I personally are safe. We've got hundreds of producers. Yeah, well I also have other outlets which makes it clear that I'm a journalist even though I'm a writer. You know what, John? We have to talk to an expert. So luckily in this news report we have a real journalist who reads Teleprompter and the real journalist is very concerned about all this of course. Judy, you've long raised questions about this whole issue. I really have and it's such a tough issue and on one hand I really want as many people covered

2:09:35 who are legitimate journalists, who have the right to protect our sources. On the other hand, I think the court, it was inevitable that this one was, this decision was going to come out as it was because you, if you include bloggers and everybody who's using what the judge called a digital soapbox to make... Hold on. Let me adjust my digital soapbox. Now if they actually take... Who is this? This is Judy. That's Judy Miller? I think so. That's funny she's got that same kind of whining voice I didn't notice it before. Yeah, talking like a little boy. She's borderline hummer.

2:10:13 Uh, oh really? So she's against it? What is this? This is bad. It gets better. Make a point, then none of us is ever going to be able to protect a source and that's what's at stake here. So I really think we need a federal shield law and I think the Jersey decision highlights the need for such a law. What's a federal shield law? Well, that's a law. There's certain states that have the Shia law, which means you that if you are quote unquote a genuine journalist and you're protecting a source that contributed to a story and the police or the mob or the government, I'm sorry, it wouldn't be the mob, the mob would just do it. But the government wants to find out who the source was so they can, you know, bust them as a whistleblower, you know, because we hate whistleblowers apparently in this country or find out who it is that's a leaker because it might be somebody in the CIA or the Pentagon.

2:11:00 We have to find out who this is. For the national security, we want you, Mr. Journalist, to tell us who it is now." And the journalist says, no, I'm not telling you. I have a shield law protecting me from saying these things, from telling you, and there's some states that do have these, that there is no federal shield law at this point. Well, we're also clear on that point because even when our sources ask to be anonymous, we still To give their names on the air. Well, that's just careless We're so clear by the way when you send email to me you can encrypt it It does not go to Google it comes into my house It's on one drive if I get the knock at the door sledgehammers going to that puppy and that's the only copy and Nothing, you're safe. It's it's encrypted with PGP. I'm sorry new new GP GPG

2:11:57 So we don't have the back door that's in PGP. So we do try to protect you, but sometimes we just give you up. There's a little bit more to her speech. The other fallout that you see coming from this, negative or positive? Well, the problem is, Judy's got her own reasons, which I respect for her own experience trying to defend free speech. But we're talking about a two-tier system now. She's trying to defend free speech? Really? He's against it from the sounds of it. This guy's wrong. Yeah, well of course. But I like that he brings out, all he wanted to do was get the point and he wanted to get this new term in two-tiered system. Because that's a meme that is going to be used in the future to create a two-tier system. You watch. Oh yeah. We're gonna have that. And you'll be right on top of that second tier.

2:12:45 where certain people get to be dubbed jerk capital J journalist by whatever standard some judge comes up with everybody else sorry you lose in this new more egalitarian world everybody's kind of a journalist and maybe that's a good thing all right we have to take one more break when we yeah all right shut up we gotta take a break we just got to take a break right now take a break let's just kill the conversation right now quiet interesting yeah we got to take a break Now this is you know you can stop tweeting this because we're going to talk about it right now for just a second This did come out a couple weeks ago, and it didn't make it on the show because let's be honest There's only so much show we can do before we're spent We're two old guys like huh tired This is the new state law from Tennessee

CHAPTER 24 / 27 Discussion

Tennessee Harassment Law, Distressing Images Legislation

Tennessee passed a new law making it a crime to post images that cause emotional distress without a legitimate purpose. The hosts argue the law is unconstitutional and could be used to criminalize internet gags or controversial political content, leading them to jokingly declare the podcast illegal in the state.

tennessee· harassment· distressing images· internet law· unconstitutional

2:13:30 Which makes posting distressing images a crime. Yeah, and this is hilarious. Yeah, this of course is the beginning of the harmonization with the Budapest Convention where you cannot post any pictures that might offend anybody. They also have another crazy law in Tennessee. You can't share passwords amongst each other to websites. Even like if you have a Netflix password you can't share that with anyone else. Yeah. So what's up with Tennessee? They're obviously the testing ground for these things. They're gonna just start running crap through Tennessee. I don't know why. It's weird. It's weird. But yeah, so if you post a... What is the... Do we have the actual text of the... It was an amendment actually. Let me see. I don't think we have the actual text. Oh here, I do have a link. Oh, it's a Google Docs. Anyway, Tennessee Code Title 39 Chapter 17 Part 3 of its harassment law. This is my English pronunciation.

2:14:32 The exact language of the law now reads, a. A person commits an offense who intentionally communicates with another person or transmits or displays an image in a manner in which there is a reasonable expectation that the image will be viewed by the victim by telephone, in writing, or by electronic communication without legitimate purpose. a. With malicious intent to frighten, intimidate, or cause emotional distress. Or how does that work with some of these gags that are on the internet? Like Goatse. Goatse. Well Goatse is not, I'm not thinking of Goatse, I'm thinking about one where you watch the video. Oh you get like BAH! You get that, yeah exactly. And then that guy tries to scare ya. That's now illegal. You can go to jail in Tennessee.

2:15:11 in a manner that the defendant knows or reasonably should know would frighten, intimidate, or cause emotional distress to a similarly situated person of reasonable sensibilities and as the result of the communication the person is frightened, intimidated, or emotionally distressed. So basically you can go, he scared me! Lock him up! So now what happens to people from out of state? Are they going to have extradition for people that have a blog in Washington State? Hey boy, you're coming down to Tennessee. And they're gonna bring them out, is Washington State gonna extradite these people? I mean, this is... I wish this would get to court fast and get it over with and get this thing killed. It's stupid. It's unconstitutional. It's ridiculous. It's interesting you say, is Washington State going to extradite these people? Who are you thinking about when you say that? Are you thinking about people that you know in Washington State? Yeah, they're all putting up weird stuff. They're posting up weird stuff that might frighten me?

2:16:09 And by the way, you can frighten me with just a story. Our show is actionable. No agenda podcast. Now illegal in Tennessee. The following program is illegal in the state of Tennessee. We could probably do a disclaimer at the beginning of the show. I just did it. I just did it. It has to be at the beginning of the show. I'm going to edit that at the beginning of the show. Do we need to have more? Is that enough? I think that the shi- uh, yeah. I think that's enough for now. The following program may intimidate or frighten people in the state of Tennessee and therefore it's illegal and void where prohibited by law elsewhere. That works kind of well doesn't it? Yeah I guess you should probably tell him to stop listening. Stop listening. Hey Trump is doing something great. He's funny. I love Trump.

CHAPTER 25 / 27 Discussion

Donald Trump Republican Party Criticism, Anthony Weiner

Donald Trump released a video criticizing the Republican Party's strategy and explaining his decision to stay with his hit NBC show rather than run for president. In an interview with Bill O'Reilly, Trump also commented on Anthony Weiner, describing him as "not a good guy" and refusing him membership to his golf clubs.

donald trump· republican party· anthony weiner· bill o'reilly· nbc

2:17:07 So, he posts a video. And by the way, I like Trump even more now when I see his office. It looks like my office and what I think your office might look like. It's a mess. He's got stacks of papers on the ground. I love that. You know this is... Makes you wonder. No, this is to me the kind of guy that gets stuff done. He's got stacks of paper and he comes out and he says, he's saying the Republican Party is full of crap. And I like this. This is funny. The Republican Party is full of crap. What were they thinking? It looks like they're intentionally trying to let Obama win. And then he winds it up. So basically his message is two part. One,

2:17:45 I wasn't gonna and get ridiculed by the Republican Party and not make a couple million by continuing with my show, because I guess he would have to stop doing the show if he would run for president. And B, it ain't over yet. I am watching very carefully. If the wrong person is nominated, you watch what happens with Donald Trump and what he does. Because we have to beat Obama. This country cannot last any longer with Obama as our president. Life in business is funny. Every time I told NBC no, they kept saying, can we give you more? Will you take more? And by the way, even if you're rich, it's a lot of money. When you have a hit show, it's a lot of money.

2:18:33 so i kept saying no no no but ultimately i don't want to battle against the republicans stupidity because it's stupidity the things that they're doing and at the same time tell nbc i no longer want to hit show who gives up a hit show nobody so i had a decision but there's plenty of time left for the big deal that's right the big deal made that's a new show i think he has uh... with uh... That he has in the wings the big deal with Donald Trump. I think guys wearing wearing out as well. That was awesome Keep keep going with the YouTube videos Trump. I like it so I was listening to O'Reilly and he had Trump on who gave a blast to to wiener Pun intended

2:19:19 And it was like, it was like one of these just offhanded things that you know guys say there's like, you know, there's like these code words especially, you know, kind of upper class and middle class men because we don't like to go into details on people. You just say, you know, he's a good guy or he's not a good guy and that's all you say. What about this guy? What's his name? Fred over here. He's a good guy. And that's all you say that means he's okay. It reminds me of the mob, you know, they have this, you know, he's a friend of mine, he's a friend of ours dichotomous thing the mob this was brought up in the movie Donnie Brasco and it's been documented a lot and when you're if you're got a mob pal and he's introducing you to some of his mob buddies if he says about you he says he's a friend of mine that means don't mess with him no it means don't trust him to say anything oh right okay he's a friend of ours that means he's already in on the action you can talk okay oh that's good we need to remember that and

2:20:15 And so Trump gives Weiner a little side blast. You can play it and it's pretty interesting. Reality show, showing a campaign in a double dip. Now, I want you to do a humanitarian service. Are you ready to do one? Yes. Can you give Anthony Weiner a membership in the golf club? I mean, the guy needs something. Well, what he's done, and you have to understand, Bill, I've known him, he's been asking for political contributions from me for years. I've known this guy well for a long time. He is not a good guy and obviously he's got some serious. Yeah, so that means no membership, huh? No membership. I'd rather not have been my gloves now. Anthony Weiner unfortunately suicided himself this morning with two bullets to the head a shotgun blast the chest then hung himself Hillary Clinton had no comment

CHAPTER 26 / 27 Discussion

Bill O'Reilly Media Grudge, Roger Moore UNICEF

Bill O'Reilly aired a segment attacking actor Roger Moore for a perceived slight that occurred 18 years ago. O'Reilly claimed Moore failed to show up for a charity event in Harlem for children of addicted parents, illustrating what the hosts call a "classic media grudge" held by television personalities.

bill o'reilly· roger moore· unicef· media grudge· harlem

2:21:10 well anyway so that was a wasn't your force it uh... you guys but it's not that's not an endorsement right now that i think that's not a sound yeah sad by the way i did catch a uh... just one last clip from me i did catch a uh... you know it would be good news is what the new journalist need to understand this is the thing that happens in the media where you If you're a writer and a writer attacks you, I'm not advising people to do this, but it's common. You lay in wait for an opportunity to screw with them somehow. I mean, it's just a back and forth. It's called a media grudge. You get a grudge. And sometimes these grudges last a long time and then they come up out of the blue as a kind of your get back.

2:22:01 And the classic media grudge, this is a classic example here, this is O'Reilly doing a payback on a media grudge and I just like rolled my eyes and said how long does memory does this guy have? Actor Roger Moore played James Bond in seven films and since then hasn't done very much. He is however doing charity work on behalf of children for UNICEF. Children with disabilities are amongst the most vulnerable members of our society. They are at a higher risk of abuse and neglect and of missing out on school and basic health care. Now we applaud anyone trying to help children in need, but a funny thing happened about 18 years ago. I was trying to raise some money for a school in Harlem devoted to helping children of addicted parents. We contacted Roger Moore's agent because he was working for UNICEF who said the actor would be happy to help. The school was thrilled. One big problem. Moore did not show up for the event.

2:22:57 Pinhead yeah 18 years 18 year grudge Wow I loved it. I said wow that's unbelievable So there's three pieces of homework for everybody to watch One is this control alt Bernanke so anonymous the group anonymous is is claiming all these hacks on All these institutions including Sony although they kind of denied that But the I guess the IMF and so there's a video you need to watch the other video is Code 33 minutes is what it's called. It's a documentary about missile defense. It's put together by the Heritage Foundation That's very funny 33 minutes all it takes before you die when North Korea sends the long-range ballistic missile to up our butt and

CHAPTER 27 / 27 Discussion

Lockerbie Bombing Documentary, Vaccine Economic Benefits

The show concludes with a recommendation for an Al Jazeera documentary on the Lockerbie bombing and a report from Medscape regarding the "Decade of Vaccines." The medical report claims accelerated vaccine delivery will provide a $231 billion economic benefit over ten years, which the hosts view as a justification for pharmaceutical industry profits.

lockerbie· al jazeera· vaccines· medscape· pharmaceutical industry

2:23:54 But the most interesting one was an Al Jazeera and Al Jazeera has put together a 45-minute documentary about the Lockerbie bombing. And there's this guy Gary Johnson, I think not Gary Johnson, that's the presidential candidate. There's this guy who was hired by the Mizradi defense team. And the corruption of evidence in that case is unbelievable. Well this is obviously what was going to happen in the case that was going to get him off. That's why they had to extradite him. We've talked about this on the show forever. And so apparently I think it's just in their craw that they never got to present this stuff. And so they decided to do a documentary. And it's pretty good.

2:24:41 And it's fun to watch, it's about 45 minutes so you can get through it. It's better than the Apple WWDC keynote, let me tell you that. Yeah, exactly. And I think that's about all I got for you Johnny boy. Let me see, well yeah, there was a WikiLeaks cable. Which is just because I stay on top of the stuff. The United States, European Union and the United Nations decided to support Haiti's recent presidential and parliamentary elections despite believing that the country's electoral body, almost certainly in conjunction with President Préval, had emasculated the opposition by unwisely and unjustly excluding the country's largest party, according to a US embassy cable. Yeah, really.

2:25:23 No, there's corruption going on there? No kidding. No kidding. Yeah. Stop the presses. Yeah. And this one, this one did really gall me though. Medscape is, I think this is intended for doctors only, doctors and medical people, medscape.com. Well, yeah, I think even they even can join it you have to be a MD I think to get Inside right so one of our inside right so one of our producers gave us access Oh, no, that's illegal in Tennessee He's going to jail And it's about vaccines and vaccination. And here's, I'm just going to read you, of course I can't give you the login, but I'm just going to give you the first two little blurbs of this report. Decade of vaccines will save lives and money globally.

2:26:14 It starts off, a large economic benefit is expected from accelerated vaccine development and delivery over the next 10 years in 72 countries according to the findings of two new studies reported this week. Between them, the two studies report that the deaths of 6.4 million children could be prevented in the next 10 years while also saving more than 151 billion in treatment costs and lost productivity for an economic benefit of two hundred and thirty one billion dollars wow yeah so this pretty much uh... certifies what uh... what i read in all the reports is that uh... the pharmaceutical industries are going all out on vaccines it's big big big big money and of course they justify that by saying well we're gonna save or create lives

2:27:10 His hey, yeah, well that that's what we say. Yeah, save or create lives it works So, uh... Yay! Have a great weekend, everybody! Yeah! Another uplifting thing. Now our podcast is illegal in Tennessee. That's right, because we scared your ass. That's how it works. We scare you, it's illegal in Tennessee. Now we're so sorry about that. Hey, but please support our work because John and I really do love doing it. And I think we've, uh... I think we've earned our keep once again. We watched hours of C-SPAN so you don't have to. We read, uh...

2:27:46 90 plus pages of UN reports so you don't have to and What else did we do? I? Watched the presidential address, so you don't have I watch people walk in yeah You watch the red carpet at the White House, so you don't have to a boy in a red carpet They make them walk on on hard. You know marble and they clunk in marble Of course so you're clicking so your your Manalo blahnik's click nicely Just rattle your jewelry. Hair Angela. Well, watching C-SPAN so you don't have to here at the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center. Gitmo Nation West, the People's Republic of Southern California with the highest taxes in the land. In the morning everybody, my name's Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where the sun's finally come out, it's crept through the fog. I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll be back again on Thursday with more media assassination for you right here on NOAgenda.

2:28:57 I want you to listen to me. I'm gonna say this again. I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky. I never told anybody to lie, not a single time. Never. Squirrel!