18:12 And actually she says that at the end of the clip, vaccines are great. There is a very small percentage of people who because of their DNA respond in horrible ways to vaccinations and get autism and get all messed up but don't worry! The government will pay you money And this is the message. What is so fascinating about what you'll be announcing tomorrow and what you and the other parents say, The federal government has always said that there is no connection between vaccines and autism though they did have a multi-million dollar payment to one little girl Hannah Poling and they said that her case was so unique because she had underlying mitochondrial condition that did cause autism but it that would never happen again in that was very unique yet
19:00 But you are living proof that in fact they have been paying other parents. How much has your settlement been? Our settlement has been millions of dollars and the way that they do it is there's a lump sum for the child, its not something that parents ever have access to. It is then paid out on an annuity where they figure out the exact life cost for the child over lifetime however let me tell you You know as you're figuring this out, they say helpful things like but a lot of the kids don't live to be very old with disability So she just said just telling you the contract here. This is your only communicate Let me let me point something out immediately right these deals are never done without non-disclosure agreements Of course well then she actually goes into that yeah Yeah, of course I mean She could not even be talking like this
19:47 Right, if they were paying her they would not be paying another nickel. Exactly. Figure it right down to the diaper and it's paid out yearly so as the government was saying all these things that was very baffling to me of a parent of child that the government out on other side of their mouth is saying yes your child is disabled he has autism he has mental retardation seizures and we're gonna pay for his care And see, because the government has never allowed for this connection and in fact they've been quite clear to say that there are no studies that connect autism with vaccines. This in some ways smacks of a cover-up were you ever told to keep quiet? Who is this woman that's on Fox that's doing these dramatic readings? She's reading script! Thank You she's reading the script it's so obvious even said cover up because
20:37 because that's in all it's an uppercase in the teleprompter cover-up emphasize this word about this settlement very routinely we had a lawyer who did these kind of cases regularly and talked about how dicey it was to have a topic like autism come up. And even subsequent to winning the case, and I say winning in quotes You know, the winning came at the expense of a marriage breaking up. Of the other kids going through severe stress and my son finally being placed in a home because he needs around-the-clock care So winning is misleading. But even after that I was told, you know this is an annuity This is something he's not giving She's actually laying out the terms here It's an annuity for every year your kid lives we give you an amount of money Give him his money for life Be careful talking about this Yeah, I'm sure that's what the government said Just be careful talking about this This is an annuity You could stop at any time What bull! Thank you Your best just to feel lucky you've won this case
21:35 And to be quite honest, not knowing other parents who have no access to anybody I had no idea how prevalent this was. Ah ha! Prevalent because everyone can do it Tomorrow you and dozens of other families are taking the bold step even though you had been told to be quiet because the money could dry up for care You're taking the bold step of coming out and making what announcement? Okay, now let's see if she actually says anything here. Making an announcement that the idea that there is no link between vaccines and autism is a complete red herring My child was compensated in 2000... Uh huh! That's a good one It's great isn't it? I love this This hit me so hard Mainly because everyone was sending me these emails saying you know the government has been covering this up No no no no no This is a PR move There are dozens of other cases like this
22:27 And you know we know from something like statistics as soon as we have one exception to what were saying unequivocally, it's not true. This is not true You know certainly there is a risk in parents speaking up some aren't comfortable doing that but frankly being one of the lucky ones I feel real obligation to do that She's one of the lucky ones and understand her kids messed up But she's one of the lucky ones I guess because Lucky was getting cash paid right? And I know that you also want to make the point that you are not anti-vaccine, nor are these other parents. You just want the information to get out there, that there is a risk to vaccines? There's a risk to vaccines! I'm assuming we'll find out like so many things that there is an interaction between genetics and very few number of people... Uh huh. ...and the vaccines. I am very pro vaccine program. I understand public good but there often a few who suffer in context with that. My problem
23:20 problem is not taking care of the children that have been the casualties of this. To me, that is completely immoral." So I looked this woman up Sarah H Bridges guess what she's a doctor at PhD And she's a consultant. Her consulting advice draws on this both sides of the desk experience and is firmly grounded in what works, not just what's possible. Right now we talked about this on the show before which is the ability of some PR agencies or that modern PR agencies which use all kinds of psychological methods and in this case of course as you could tell by some people who wrote in, this whole discussion really got your attention
24:04 and to the point where your brain was receptive to the message late in a discussion, which is that the message was, ah it's got nothing to do with autism and vaccines are good. But there's a secondary thing here at work that I think that is even more subtle which is the message that is genetic somehow. Yes exactly! Which leads us to the dual headed monster of genetic testing and collecting DNA on kids. Cool I can't wait! Me, my kids and Osama Bin Laden all in the gene pool database. So I suspected there was going to be a big genetic... we'll watch this and put it on the predictions. Yeah very good. A genetic testing push some within the next 12 months because you have to do these things within.. if you're gonna bring these PR stunts out you have to do your follow up with some reasonable time You can't wait five years No because the client gets upset if it takes too long. The message is wasted right?
25:05 Well, no the client gets upset because it's taken too long. You know they do need some action Some actual reaction. That's a good find Yeah No It was just like but this is what I love so much is when people send this and they make these automatic presumptions And like you know there's a lot more to this and when you listen to her speak and now know that she's a paid consultant She's paid to go on television shows to talk about stuff for all...I mean I hope well You know, it's horrible if her kid had a terrible adverse reaction. She may not even have a kid for all I know Well then that you then that well That would be if that ever was revealed that would die she has to have a kid There's no way they're gonna let that because the dad ever got something like that got out now It would be uh, you mean there'd be like Facebook hiring a PR firm to slam Google? It'd be worse But yeah something like that