The New Normal

00:00 Rob Milk, it'll kill ya! Adam Curry, John C. DeVore. It's Thursday, February 3rd, 2011, time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 275. This is no agenda. Preparing for a day of rage from the hilltop watchtower crackpot command center here in Gibbon Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California I am Adam Curry in the morning and from Northern Silicon Valley where I have a green screen on the radio to make it seem as though I'm in Egypt I'm John C. DeVore I like that that's a good one

00:37 Green yes, I can tell John you need some like fighting sounds behind you. Oh, I just got hit in the head ten times Oh and a guy and a guy walked right up to me looked at me and then punched me right in the face Yeah, hey in the morning to you John In the morning to you, in the morning to all the ships at sea and boots on the ground. Wings in the skies, foots in the oceans, checks in the mails, bakers in the kitchens, dungs in the pit, astronauts manning the moon and Mars base stations, anyone napping for humanity, hands on the air and human resources everywhere, especially those in the chatroom with us this morning, knowagentostream.com, all charged up and ready to go exactly the way your government loves you. Because we need you powered.

01:17 I think the Knapp for Humanity thing is going to catch on. You know someone, one of our producers, actually I have it here on email, I should give him props, John Cartwright said, I think you guys missed an awesome opportunity to brand this initiative Knapp and Trade. You know I saw that but I thought I did I think a pun like that uh come on that's awesome I think I wasn't as impressed I'll tell you why really for one well for one thing that's been overused with crap and trade okay that's happened tax and all these people have taken variations of that and so I think it's cliched already the second thing is I don't think you can get the kind of traction with a pun

01:57 that you can with a legitimate nap for humanity type of a moniker. I just don't think... No, I agree. Give me an example of a pun that has any traction. It doesn't matter because we already cut the jingles. So it doesn't matter. We're already there. I'm just saying it's only rationalizing why square are you there? Let's play it again. Oh, okay? Like it's got it. It's got a nice some Nambulistic quality to it. It makes you want to take a nap it does. I'm like quiet already I'm falling asleep, and I'm waiting for the I nap app the high nap. There's a

02:40 Well, there should be, you're right, there should be an app that you start it when you take the nap and then it starts counting your carbon credits. Yeah, it should be a running carbon credit and then when you wake up you can feel good about yourself. You pop it and you go wow. And it'll tweet. I just created 10 carbon credits with Nap for Humanity. I nap for humanity. 10 carbon credits. And it'll post something to your wall on Facebook. Yeah, absolutely. Somebody out there can design this iNap app and it'll be done. Now, the thing is that, has anyone done the calculation? Do we have the math on this? Does it matter? Yes, I think we should be legit. Okay, well someone can do that. We need the... so how many carbon credit? Well, I was just looking at the... I have it somewhere here. I have the current pricing because they're reopening the exchanges in Europe.

03:38 Oh yeah yeah you know they got past that whole that whole scam thing pretty quickly I might add. Oh it doesn't take much. No. Let me see. National carbon registries will open within days let me give you the current price per metric ton this is coming direct from Bloomberg so then we just have to figure out how many metric tons a human resource uh... exudes on a daily basis how many at well i'm sure it's not times we have to do if we knew the sleeping versus waking then we can calculate the nap and then people can and we're gonna do for a carbon crisis we have people pledged to nap

04:20 Okay, one, here we go, future delivery to, so, I love this, EU futures for delivery in 2000, December 2011. So, carbon still to be delivered. When I opened my pie hole in 2011, we're not affected by the registry suspension. Lost as much as 1% to, here it is, 14.58 euros a metric ton. 14 euros a tonne. So it's about 1450 a tonne of carbon. Yeah. So I just you just gotta figure out how much carbon does a human resource exude. Now you have to take into account

05:01 That you may be passing wind while you sleep, so you have to deduct that from yeah, but you'll be passing wind anyway Yeah, but I think you pass wind in your sleep. Yeah, I just gotta take wind anyway I mean, there's nothing you can't stop yourself from passing wind so that's that's not a variable We have to take it into account we have to have all the parameters If we want to if we want to be accurate no because it's gonna happen whether you're napping or not napping So it doesn't make any difference It's really wrong on the party. I'm sorry. Let me give you a little PR Jiggle here. You know our buddy Maynard down under in Australia He's on there like the real Australian radio station there. Yeah, I'm a pal ABC so he took the whole vodka eyeballing thing to a whole new level and got an expert and interviewed an expert about vodka balling and

05:54 And gave us some props. That's his little intro music I guess. I've investigated some pretty stupid things in my time, but one of the most stupid things that's come to my notice recently from overseas podcasts, Adam Curry has covered it extensively. By the way, notice I'm the stupid one. When there's stupid in the sentence, John C. Dvorak doesn't come up. Kind of interesting. Who would do that? I don't know. I've seen pretty stupid people doing it. So I've come to an eye optometrist here. Ian Emsley, hi Ian, how are you? Good, thanks very much. How are you? Drinking vodka can be dangerous enough without pouring it into your eye. Oh, exactly. Yeah, it's 40% alcohol as you know. Vodka's been used as disinfectant. What are you going to do, pour disinfectant into your eye? I can't believe that the actual airwaves in Australia are polluted with the bullcrap we come up with on this show.

05:01 That you may be passing wind while you sleep, so you have to deduct that from yeah, but you'll be passing wind anyway Yeah, but I think you pass wind in your sleep. Yeah, I just gotta take wind anyway I mean, there's nothing you can't stop yourself from passing wind so that's that's not a variable We have to take it into account we have to have all the parameters If we want to if we want to be accurate no because it's gonna happen whether you're napping or not napping So it doesn't make any difference It's really wrong on the party. I'm sorry. Let me give you a little PR Jiggle here. You know our buddy Maynard down under in Australia He's on there like the real Australian radio station there. Yeah, I'm a pal ABC so he took the whole vodka eyeballing thing to a whole new level and got an expert and interviewed an expert about vodka balling and

05:54 And gave us some props. That's his little intro music I guess. I've investigated some pretty stupid things in my time, but one of the most stupid things that's come to my notice recently from overseas podcasts, Adam Curry has covered it extensively. By the way, notice I'm the stupid one. When there's stupid in the sentence, John C. Dvorak doesn't come up. Kind of interesting. Who would do that? I don't know. I've seen pretty stupid people doing it. So I've come to an eye optometrist here. Ian Emsley, hi Ian, how are you? Good, thanks very much. How are you? Drinking vodka can be dangerous enough without pouring it into your eye. Oh, exactly. Yeah, it's 40% alcohol as you know. Vodka's been used as disinfectant. What are you going to do, pour disinfectant into your eye? I can't believe that the actual airwaves in Australia are polluted with the bullcrap we come up with on this show.

07:00 I'm still thinking it is bullcrap. That's the problem except for the fact your daughter confirmed it although I'm not I'm skeptical still no she wouldn't she has no reason to BS me people are actually of course if you listen to the whole thing it's about three minutes but what is the conclusion can we play the whole thing I'm interested in hearing what the guy says this is indeed a real ophthalmologist I'll play it up to the conclusion I mean it's a very very stupid thing to do Now the idea is that it actually gets you drunk faster because there's blood vessels in your eyes that can absorb the vodka faster than it can through your stomach. From a man who is a drinker, be an optometrist, what's your professional opinion on this idea? Ah, totally false. I mean there might be some very, very minimal absorption but it'd be incredibly tiny compared to what the stomach and especially your small intestine can do.

07:46 So there you go, there's the conclusion. So it's bullcrap! Well no, it's bullcrap that it gets you drunk, but it's not bullcrap that the kids are doing it. You know, it's typical of these kids. I mean, I don't want to, you know, do a blanket thing, but the kids out there listening to the show know this. That they're susceptible, they're subject to suggestion. Yes. You know they say, oh y'all I'm so drunk. I mean it reminds me of these people I've run into. I'm so wasted man. I'm wasted. Hey dude, that's been water. I'm wasted. That can't be man. Oh really? Water? Never mind. I'm also wasted anyway. Hey guess what? What? Egypt. No. There's something going on in Egypt?

08:31 yeah tonight i i i i probably taken a train to deconstruct is weak last week i think we kind of had some of it deconstructed to some extent to people's complimented us for bike making them laugh but uh... have you come up with anything as i've got another whole direction yes i i i have come up with one thing which actually starts off by giving you an extra point for today's program and that is a carryover point from the last show where you called the script with Jordan being next and of course we now know that since the last program the the royal family has taken all kinds of measures but if anyone would be in on the script it would be Henry Kissinger

09:15 No, because of course he's one of the elite is still alive. Oh, yeah, he's one of the elitist of the world Mr.. Gary, so there's a couple things and the big payoff comes at the end of this clip when he was on It was on Bloomberg. Yeah, you're very close and the first thing that happened that I thought was really interesting is we we have this the shill showed up al-baradai is the guy's name and If you want to know what he's all about First of all the minute I saw Anderson Cooper interviewing the guy and would look like someone's backyard barbecue pit. I'm like okay This was pre-taped in like New Jersey And the guys like yeah, well so this guy is is a total shill he's

10:03 I think he's formerly from the International Atomic Energy Board, something like that. But more importantly, he is on the International Crisis Group Board. Which is a complete elitist Gitmo nation society and you know George Soros and all these guys are on the board So this guy is... Crisis boards, not a drinking club. Yeah Hey, man before I do the shot in my eye. Why don't you go run Egypt? so uh... means a kiss and your talks about him and then he'd really blew me away with the confirmation that this entire thing is a script i'm i want to get first your take on albert by the way this girl if you take a look at the video linked in the show notes no jim show dot com she was standing like a hooker on the street corner like completely like sex stop and it was really weird and uncomfortable to watch

11:01 and he was on the phone of course was just like well doing on the street to look what it was a it was a full is that the kind of money they're paying a bloomberg this woman has to work two jobs yes and whether or not you know he's become sort of the the person in the face of this opposition movement what do you know about him and how much influence is he going to have in a new government i know well but i think it's uh... intelligent civilized man who has lived in exile uh... who So to me he looks like a transitory sort of transitional figure that emerges. So very important. This is bogus. This isn't even Kissinger. This is somebody doing a goof on you guys. I'm telling you, I've heard Kissinger a million times. I know that crazy gravelly voice of his. That's not him. Okay, well let's listen to the real Kissinger.

11:53 uh... at the real kissinger and that's a first he says i i know it means is a transitory he's just a temporarily at the beginning of a revolution and that will uh... having performed his function of bringing about a transition will disappear from the scene this is great so after he performs his function of transition he'll disappear from the scene he'll just yeah one way or another uh... so you believe he's going to be a temporary figure I think almost certainly it will be a temporary figure. In order to govern you have to represent some social forces. And I don't know what forces inside Egypt El Baradei represents, but that's not a useless function.

12:42 No, but indeed, no it is not, certainly not and you can see his influence this time around. What does she know? No, no, certainly, I don't even think she can even understand what he's saying. She's just saying, no, no, no, whatever, and looking like a hooker. However, some have talked about the vice president right now, Omar Suleiman, as perhaps emerging as a stronger leader in Egypt. What do you know about him? Well, he is the head of intelligence. and he is supposed to be highly intelligent and... I hope so! Now listen, because he's gonna make a mistake here, he's gonna cover it up and then he's gonna hammer it home. Quite sophisticated and he's been, I think, the liaison to at least some of our relationships in Egypt. So...

13:38 He's doing a vodka eyeball shot right now as I hold on. Hold on, I have to do a vodka ball. Hold on one moment. Hey, by the way, you look pretty hot, sweet snooks. Is he a friend of the US, Dr. Kissinger? When things reach this point, you can't classify things easily as a friend of the United States or not. He is a Yes, up to now he has been very cooperative. We have ways of making him cooperate. With the United States. But what will happen now is that all

14:15 that once the transition has been completed. All the political forces are going to begin maneuvering for space and for appealing to and sort of inchoate public. The military are one force, the Muslim Brotherhood is another huge force. There are other forces that have not been... whatever you can say about Mubarak, he... You hear that? He said, there are other forces that have not been... and then he stops himself. They've not been... hmm... what? Activated, Henry? Kept the situation moderate. So you don't know what radical force... Okay, get ready for it. This is a country emerged now that has been underground. We are going to go through a period of great uncertainty and of a lot of maneuvering.

15:13 Once the lid is off, right now everybody's focused on the removal of Mubarak. That is only the first scene of the first act of a drama that has to be played out. yeah it sounds about right it's an admission right there that to me that's an admission well it's the first scene of the first act you can't think right you start messing up yeah he it was if yeah well there it is definitely scripted whatever the case is that before we go i got some some stuff i just want to tell people so they can look for these little tidbits too along with the whole thing being something so by the way Suleiman was on this morning

16:08 speaking for the government already yeah and i saw her the translation that a woman doing his voice and i find highly annoying and uh... he was uh... and it's all you know these guys all work for uh... for us anyway uh... let's just think if you take it for just before we get into the media the show so we can at least get this out of the way we have no two seventy five club members which is quite a shame i think that such a good number yeah i think that people miss an opportunity but okay i think so too so i can scrap that one right off the show notes okay uh... daniel strack a sir are daniels actually uh... colts next

16:48 New Jersey, 32220 will be our executive producer. Does he round out a second knighthood with that I think? I have a feeling he does. I think there's a separate letter about that, it's possible. But you don't know? Well I don't have it in front of me. I mean I'll look it up at the halfway point. and uh... we'll find out but he's got no noted hatched uh... ashley mister ashley hog i i like that there's a mister mister in there from uh... because ashley is a you know i was in the u k i think is that i think is more popular as a male name in the u and actually will be a associate executive producer yeah he's in leamington's false spawn workshirt what war workshire warwickshire warwickshire leamington's spa wall which uh...

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18:10 Well, we shouldn't be doing that. By making me think more about the sinister goings-on, it's supposed to relax you. Yeah, that saddens me a bit because the whole idea is that you can look at all of this and just go, oh, it's okay, I understand it. Yeah, you're above it, you become meta. This is like what the show does, it makes you so you don't get stressed out by the news because you see the scripts unfolding, you see the bullcrap, you become highly amused by what's going on. Yes, it's entertaining. It's relaxing. He says that what saddens him more is how difficult it is to get friends and family to do the same. Yeah, well that's your problem. Forget about it. That's what I say on this show, to preach to the converted. Preach to the choir because you're not going to turn anybody around getting them to listen to this show. I guess most people really are just happy to keep going blindly screwed over by the elites, eh?

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19:00 If you could also give me a tiny mention of my iPhone app pocket mini golf to that would be the greatest Pocket mini golf to I'll review it on the big app show. All right, I'll be at a little extra zing for him and then also associate executive producer is juiced Not even close used yoast yoast shipper hein Schieperhain. Yes. Say it properly. Joost Schieperhain. Joost Schieperhain. Your phone is ringing. 222. $222. Thank you, Joost. Even just to mock my pronunciation of the odd Dutch name. There is no other reason to donate to this show than to do exactly that. Well, at least from the lowlands. Okay. Oh, that's it?

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21:06 I do just want to briefly mention napforhumanity.com is being built by Thijs Brouwers and Gitmo Nation Lowlands. He could probably use a little bit of help on some of the editorial, some of the grammar and spelling so anyone should get in touch with him. I think he's probably in the chat room as well. He's a great artist and he's doing some crazy stuff for napforhumanity.com. NoagendaStickers.com still alive and well. Check that out. Some great stickers to be found there to be stuck on anything you can find. And what is this? I bought a new domain today, noagendaresearchinstitute.com. This is from Gus. Right now it's forwarding to noagendershow.com. I plan to make it into a full-on think tank and maybe score some government grants I can share with you guys. Right.

21:52 Thanks for cleaning up the show. I sent a check in the mail so those douchebags at PayPal don't get a cut from my donation, but we'll talk about that later, correct? Yes, and I want to mention one thing for people out there. If you have an orphan domain name that happens to have a what you know just sitting there doing nothing Forward it to noagendashow.com. There's no reason for the things, I mean a lot of people put Parker sites up which actually don't work much anymore so you can't really make any money. But if you have an orphan domain, and I have a few myself, just keep it online.

22:29 and put it forwarded to uh... no agenda show dot com and i think you should just do that all your old orphan dorm domains be they may show up in a search engine one of these days and they click side boom they get to the show and they wonder why you know what i like so much is we have such enormous google juice no glenn beck uh... came out and said that the truth has no agenda which of course was uh... uh... link to and tweeted never was talking about it but if you go to google you type in just no agenda the first page we all net we on it completely outright which is great now before you get into the uh... inevitable about uh... egypt uh... let me just say that i am uh... very pleased and happy and delighted to see the slaves of egypt revolting i'd love it i think it's a it's it is a completely organic real

23:18 revolution revolt that's going on spurred on or not is irrelevant uh... revolutions take place you know ed you don't need a a social network for revolution to happen uh... so i i do love it i think it's it's great and i wish uh... slaves around the world would follow the example which of course won't happen unfortunately they're all going to get duped and scammed into something else but i do a really appreciate what's happening and i think it's a beautiful thing to say it is i really mean it i'm i'm my breath i think it's been i think it was co-opted two or three days ago yeah and the whole thing now is just going right unfortunately onto the script and that's the end of it the minute anderson cooper shows up you know it's over the distance okay and in fact i'm i still have

24:06 a suspicion that CNN started this whole thing just to get Piers Morgan some ratings. I'm not convinced otherwise. Well it hasn't helped. No. But I have to say I've been watching a lot of CNN, they've had cameras on the square which you know... Which is by the way, it's Liberation Square. It's it's it's Tahiri. It's a little too. Yeah, you know, it's Tahiri Square Which it loosely translated could be seen as liberation square but from the get-go liberation square liberation square Yes, everybody live from liberation square Well, I think this whole thing is aimed at Obama

24:44 And they've decided that, look, we've gone far enough with this cap and trade nonsense and the alternative energy nonsense and all the rest of it. We have to get back to drilling. oil out of our own country so let's turn up the to be heat a little bit and create all kinds of situations with which may restrict oil flow around the world and we have to get back to drilling in the gulf coast mainly I mean they've a they've they've loud people are already there to continue pumping but there's no new drug oil rigs from the way it sounds they're moving them off you know everything's been closed down and so that so we've had it

25:30 And so the giveaway to me is that let's bring out the heavy guns and the kicker is, and I want to play a couple clips, one of them is oil part one. And you have to ask the question, and I'm going to ask you this, you're in broadcasting, you've been working, you're not an idiot. Oh, hold on a second, John. Hold on. Let me just uh... A little tighter can you be? Ask Adam, ask Adam Will he know or will he won't I don't know but here we go Ask Adam, ask Adam yeah Yeah, okay. Go ahead, ask. So uh, I did a short version of that. Don't play it. So anyway um, so now you've been in broadcasting, you kind of, now if you're, if all hell's breaking loose in some area right? Yeah. Don't you want to be on the air?

26:19 You don't want to be like the guy reporting it, you're going to either be flown out there and you're going to be reporting or you're going to be in the studio. They had Rachel Maddow was on like all night on MSNBC. Yeah, she's a real broadcaster. It's like, hello, it's Rachel Maddow here at MSNBC. She was all over the place. She was at the anchor desk covering the story. So the question is, when do you take one of the most popular people on broadcasting and you move them out Where is Glenn Beck? Right. Why is Glenn Beck during this episode and why do they put in on the Glenn Beck show a stooge who does nothing more but bring in his pals to talk about the situation in Egypt all about the oil. Play oil part one and we'll get a little taste of this and ask yourself again where's Glenn Beck? Why was he taken off? And prices at the pump, the grocery store, the mall and your home will skyrocket.

27:18 with me now, John Hoffmeister. He's the former head of Shell Oil and Steve Moore is a senior economic writer at the Wall Street Journal. Hoffmeister, I'm going to start with you, my friend. You've been it. You've been the CEO of Shell. You know how important that Middle East and those two choke points, the Suez Canal and the Strait of Hormuz. You tell us, tell our viewer how important that area is. And by the way, how important keeping flow of oil through there is. We've known for decades how vulnerable we are, Eric, to these choke points. And there have been all kinds of scenarios and games played out in terms of what might happen. We use as a world 85 million barrels a day. The United States uses 20 million barrels a day.

28:00 Every day 10,000 gallons a second and we're shutting down drilling in our own Gulf of Mexico This is absurd. It is absurd that a nation that has so much John and John what if we were to choke off one of those two? The Persian Gulf the Strait of Hormuz if that way if by the way on the other side of Saudi Arabia on that choke point lies Iran if Iran were to get a crazy idea and close that port or close that shipping lane What would happen to the price of oil and gas? It would only take a matter of hours before we would see significant movement, days before we could see the price of oil go up 50% or even double. Because the amount of oil coming out... So you're saying $200 a barrel? You're saying $200 a barrel? It could easily get to $200... It's interesting, I've heard this $200 a barrel number mentioned everywhere. That is the new meme, is the $200 a barrel of oil.

28:55 Now you know this Shell guy, if you listen to him, especially the first part, he sounds like he's reading this. I mean this little interview is so scripted it's almost embarrassing. I mean the guy is not performing well. He's also waving his arms around. uh... like a street hooker it's like the street hooker but yeah, no that meme, here's what people are going to start looking out for you're going to hear a couple of, you're going to hear the two hundred dollar meme you're also going to hear the eighty five million barrels a day although i have to say that i don't have the clip but they they kept running a similar meme on cnn only they kept using the number eighty six but anyways eighty, you're going to keep hearing that well eighty six is divisible by three

29:37 So that's a better number. 86 is divisible by 3? I don't know. In what universe? I'm just talking crap. Anyway, so 85 is the number. You're going to hear that and you're also going to hear occasionally the 20 million barrels a day that we use. But these are numbers you never, you don't hear these numbers normally. We haven't heard these numbers thrown or bandied about. But I heard these numbers on three different shows all within the same few hours. And so this is obviously out there to make people aware of the fact that how much oil is being used. Anyway, you can finish this little clip and you can hear these guys ranting about how everything is going up in price.

30:23 Okay, Steve, if I have Steve Moore, I hope I have him. There we go, Steve. Okay, since you saw the pictures in Egypt, you see the protesters in the street, since we started seeing those last Thursday or Friday when it escalated, the price of gasoline, not at the pump, not the AAA number that everyone reads, the price of gasoline on a wholesale level has jumped 13 cents a gallon. What does that mean to American consumers? Well, Eric, first of all, that's nothing. I mean, 13 cents is a lot, but if these projections are right that John is talking about, we're looking at the price of gasoline. I just filled up yesterday. I think I paid something around $3.59 a gallon, which is a lot. But we could see the price of gasoline, if we moved to $150 or $200 a barrel oil, we could be looking at $5 a gallon to fill up.

31:11 okay let me let me just ask you a question john so what you're saying is that uh... the riots have been co-opted uh... by uh... anti-obama nests uh... to for once and for all abolished the whole idea just a bit basically to get us back on uh... back on track and uh... and getting you can get really getting us uh... off of foreign oil which actually would have to screw canada uh... and only we will keep you we will actually keep getting our oil from canada this is the best of the day that this was not started to do that it's been is being co-opted and this

31:49 I'm sorry. Welp, I'm not totally convinced of that. Because I do believe... Yeah, I know you believe it, but the way I see it, and I have to say that everyone was called a little bit off guard with the Egypt thing, but I think, I still believe the Tunisian thing was instigated. Yes, I'm with you on that. And that triggered the Egyptian thing and has triggered other things around the Mideast. Now it may not... I mean, I would agree with I think some of your some people that have discussed this with us that you know you can't really think that far out ahead and it's bull crap that you know all that yeah right because it doesn't make a lot of sense I mean I we know for a fact we can say for a fact that's been co-opted whether it's been planned from the get-go is another issue which is what you're debating me about

32:35 Now, there's a funny thing by the way in that little short series done on AMC called Rubicon. It was just about this topic exactly. It was about a choke point that was being killed off. Well, anyway, let's get back. I want to just get back to the, what I think the theme is here which is get our domestic drilling back up and if you play the second clip which is where's our oil domestic drilling you'll hear the shell guy again reading it sounds like he's reading from a script he's memorized it is very poor actor I'm always a CEO that's what these guys do the there they're supposed to just read annual reports to share and he's a ex-CEO but he could I think he should take it be honest about it I mean I don't just a little side here look if you're a CEO and you can be playing these sorts of games with the public

33:23 Take some acting classes. I mean, does it hurt? You could take drama in college. John, he is the former CEO. And I'm just saying, he's probably a politician. There's time still. There's still time. There are courses, especially, you know, New York, and go take, you know, get the actors workshop, whatever. But anyway, go on. We saw price increases for everything from copper to wheat to Wheaties on the grocery store shelf. So this is a potentially inflationary effect. I think John makes a very important point. Why is it that we are not developing our own oil and natural gas resources? I mean, this is another one of those times to wonder how it's in our economic or national security sense not to be developing our own oil. So John, let me throw this at you. July 14th of 2008, the highest price oil ever traded, $147.25. Two days later, President Bush removed the moratorium on offshore drilling.

34:21 That was the top. Within six months, oil went to $33 a barrel. Not that we were grabbing that much oil out of the ground immediately, but the thought of being able to drill more, what would that do to the price of oil? Would it matter if people were fist-pumping in the street in Cairo? Oil is a psychological price as well as a material price. And it's the expectation of the future which drives the price. If the U.S. said, we're going back to 10 million barrels a day of production, where we were in the 1970s, all the oil markets would be calmed down immediately, overnight. Now we wouldn't get 10 million barrels for a number of years, but it's just the psychology of knowing that the US will start taking better care of its own demand so it doesn't put so much pressure on global demand. There's a lot of countries out there that don't have oil.

35:08 and they need for the US to be producing its own oil. There's a great case study in this. Every business school teacher, I've said this before, every business school professor in America should say, the case for drilling is this. Since the protesting in the streets, since you saw the Molotov cocktails, the bombs, the rocks being thrown, the price of oil has shot up, skyrocketed, gasoline skyrocketing. But natural gas is going down. Now there's a reason for that, Steve. Why is that? well first of all because the russian pipeline has just been opened up all this should well actually they're they're gonna go into this is a this is a we also so what is your point what is your point is that uh... cuz it doesn't seem like it but who's the oil cabal for uh... for the price of oil to go down they want to know

35:49 No, that's the traders who wanted to go up. The actual oil companies, they have no interest in this sort of speculation. What they would like is control of local wells in the United States so they just become these little money machines. Right. Because it's better than buying it. And they also, they're the ones who have to buy it at these prices to sell it at the pumps. Say you're one of the local Unical or one of the companies in the United States and you're buying oil, you have to buy it at those prices, at these ridiculous $150 things and the public starts to relinquish demand, demand starts to fall off and when the price comes down you get screwed. Oil companies can really take it in the shorts when these prices run up to $200 and then crash to $33.

36:30 especially when demand goes to nothing. So you have no demand for cheap oil. I mean it becomes a real loser. You know, they don't like this. It's the stock market speculators that like this up and down action. The oil companies don't. They just like the cash cow pumping, pumping, pumping. And they love it when they can control it domestically. Okay. Okay. I'm with you. I'm with you. Now, so let me counter that not countering your argument but if the uh... if we've got the people uh... against obama saying all right enough of this stupid stuff we gotta tap our own oil which by the way i think is a a grand idea uh... then on the other side we have to combat that and uh... of course there's only one thing we can do to uh... to combat uh... fossil fuels and that is

37:24 So there's been plenty of I don't know if it's chemtrailing or if it was harp or whatever but we have like the worst people think when they listen to our show we've got so many jingles now it's ludicrous it was one of the worst It is one of the worst storms in history now, blanketing... I love this storm. I love it too. Did you see the picture of Chicago? It's fantastic, it's beautiful, it looks great. Lake Shore Avenue, the cars are all stopped dead, people had to walk home. It's great. You know what, when I was a kid we had storms like this. When I was a kid, I'm not even that old. I'm digging it. I'm like, yeah, climate change, of course climate change is real. However,

38:03 when you listen to this and this is from I think this is from MSNBC or CNBC I think it's MSNBC they had this woman on and she is from an outfit I just got to find this I think it's concerned scientists which is when you see something like that like okay this is perfect this is really this is one for me and uh... as the union of concerned scientists and this is brenda at war zone who looks like a concerned scientist and just listen to what she's saying about the storms and the reason for its john now we all know the freezer theory this is this is that this is the arctic freezer theory but she takes it one step further and remember this is a scientist

38:50 Well, another winter storm is bearing down on areas already dealing with last week's snow that left nearly two feet of snow in some parts. And along with the winter weather, this storm could be followed by more intense cold, giving no chance for last week's snow to melt and no break at all for the winter weary. Why are we getting so much snow? Joining me now from Washington, D.C. is climate scientist Brenda Ekberzal with the Union of Concerned Scientists. By the way, whenever you have a scientist in Washington, D.C., red alert, red alert, red alert. Yeah, really. And with another good morning to you. The name of your group, the Union of Concerned Scientists, why the name and how much

39:26 Which in terms of what's happening right now reflects the reason for your name. Oh please. Why the name? Well because... That name is old for one thing. It's not a new organization. And two, what kind of a dumbass question is that? Well let's listen to the dumbass answer. One thing we're concerned about is what's really going on with these winter storms. What's going on is that we are burning a lot of coal and oil and that is leading to extra carbon in our atmosphere, causing extra heat. That's the funniest thing I've ever heard. Did this somehow change from last year? I mean, what is she saying? But no, we're going into a spiral, John, because it's so cold we're burning even more, we're putting more carbon in the air, we're going to kill everybody! And that's turbocharging our- It's turbocharging, baby!

40:20 It's turbocharged network was this on MSNBC? turbocharging climate change weather patterns what this means is that during summer and Springtime where it rains it's falling much heavier than it did decades ago So now it's not this the temperature is the actual precipitate precipitation But she makes it even crazier. And during the winter we're recording even heavier snowstorms. What this means is that climate change is creating a new normal and officials need to... This is a good one, a new normal. I like it. Pay attention to new normal. Prepare their communities to create safer communities for this future condition. You know, Brenda, I'm going to have my director put up the graphic that will show the snow totals and how disproportionate they are this winter. But you know, when you make an audit of climate

41:07 change and global warming and the like you know it's really hard to see how the warming is bringing all this snow. Now listen to this this is really good so so this one I I mean I had I was I was like wow because because of course you have to go back and remember we had Al Gore's movie the scariest movie you'll ever see global warming global warming the earth is heating up global warming global warming global warming oh climate change climate change climate change but why are we getting all this extra snow This is the answer. Can you put that together in a logical explanation? Please, Union of Concerned Scientists, we need a logical explanation so the slaves can understand the scam. Sure. Well, what we know is that we've had record ocean temperatures. They're warming up. This creates a lot of moisture sources. We also have, with climate change, we have shifting jet stream and we've sort of blown open the planet's freezer door.

42:05 Wait, wait, it gets better. We've blown open the planet's freezer door. If only I had known the freezer was up in the north, I would have put me some cow in there. And the Arctic blasts are coming down, combining with this moist Gulf of Mexico moisture, and you create this terrible combination, which dumps a lot of snow. And ironically... Now, ironically, this is where she goes off the rail. She keeps saying ironically. This past summer we had record third lowest sea ice extent which led to a cascading set of conditions and the shifting jet stream and this more moist from the warmer oceans.

42:45 that lead to this terrible combination of very treacherous snowstorms this season. Oh, indeed treacherous. I mean they've been fatal as you know in many places. Brenda, I'm curious, can you make the leap between an extreme winter like this to expectations of an extreme summer in terms of heat? ironically with climate change. Ironically? How many times does she say this? Well it's the new talking point you have to say ironically because of course it's hard for people to understand like if it's warmer why am I freezing my ass off well ironically but listen to how she explains it we see that the warmers are rising much faster than the summer so our temperatures are increasing faster during the

43:27 season, then during the summer season. And so that creates a situation when you have more moist conditions, it's still below freezing, you can create very heavy snowfall. Okay, so what she's saying is because it's actually warmer we get the precipitation i.e. rain but because it's actually warmer it turns into snow it's still below freezing if you have very extreme cold cold cold conditions you tend to have a little bit less precipitation in the form of snow so ironically we get a little more snow ironically ironically well okay there you have it Brenda thank you so much for waiting I appreciate that I get it yeah yeah

44:08 Yeah, so it's warming up so much that we're getting snow that we wouldn't have gotten because it would have been too cold. Exactly. Yeah, okay, right. So anyway... By the way, I'm on the water. Yes. I mean, I can look, I can turn my head and I can see the bay, and San Francisco Bay, which is a body of water hooked to the Pacific Ocean, and the Pacific Ocean rises, this water body rises too, and there's like a little shoreline down here that I can see from here. Yeah. and you must be you're on the flood line man you're gonna die gone up an inch or a millimeter i mean actually right now there's tides out and it's a bunch of mud but anyway this is bull crap but this is what's being passed off as science and so i've decided by the way if these guys are so good at this how come they all predicted it was going to be a drought and in australia is a perfect example of that

44:56 and the British predicted because the same people predicted that it was going to be a no snow in England ever again and there was going to everything we were never see snow in this you know anywhere now all of a sudden it's causing snow well where they change their story every five minutes and why do people buy into this because it's like a moving target what they're saying I don't know Yeah, well, so my talking point is yes, climate change is real. Of course it is. Climate change is all the time. It's just we have no control over it and it's certainly not because we're burning more fires. Yes, the Molotov cocktails in Egypt are responsible for more carbon in the air. So it's really actually, this is really counterproductive and they're actually creating higher oil prices. This is how the reasoning goes from the concerned scientists.

45:52 and by the way uh... the punks a tiny phil uh... that we have groundhog day that i miss it i'd like somebody shot the poor thing and no he did not yeah they had a buddy the barely they've changed p r agencies and so it's not getting the publicity is not get what's laid out here and i have a report here msnbc punks a tiny phil sees no shadow predicts early spring even this guy even the even the groundhog is working for uh... for the union of concerned scientists the union concern scientists i'm not mistaken i could be wrong them and i've been wrong in the past uh... you start off as they were about uh... issues of uh... a nuclear war centrally

46:35 and maybe they may have been involved in the population control thing too. By the way, I want to point out to everybody, you ever notice, of course my theory again, I would fall back on it, people say that we don't harp on this, which is that we may be entering a new ice age. Yes. which was predicted in the 70s by people who, by the way, stick by these early predictions. There was a, if you look into the history of the Ice Age predictions, there was a whole group of people, these same climatologists, they're all predicting an Ice Age, and then a bunch of them split off because they were getting no traction and they predicted global warming. A good group of them have stuck with their old prediction that we have an ice age coming up and the ice age is more dangerous and it's more likely to kill off a good portion of the global population and coincidentally the people that are into global warming are also into that 500 million that's so we shouldn't have so many people on the planet

47:26 they're the same people so i think i mean so the likelihood of them setting us up to have a new i say stick tell us i think is more more valid in any argument that they have yes i i saw you crack potty no no but i actually i saw you posted that same video that i had had watched on the war act dot org slash blog of uh... the former housing secretary for bush goyer her really good and i want to get c l people should watch that's an hour and i want to get some time try to get some clips to but it's just is you really have to watch it in fact i watched it twice just understand exactly what she was saying yeah uh...

48:02 And she's definitely in our camp. And we're pretty screwed though. Well, she may be, you know, I mean, she basically expressed a worst case scenario for everything. So we would be screwed if all that came to pass, but our show may save the day. Anyways, back to the other thing that people should be aware of at least for a while on that oil business. And by the way, again, where's Glenn Beck? I just want to play just play a little bit of this there was a thing I caught it on CNBC world and it was Jim Rogers was a very famous stock trader. He didn't he move to like Singapore or something? I think he got out somewhere else. I think I think he was Singapore.

48:46 Whatever the case is, he's very famous and he has been long commodities and he's been saying, uh, and of course the commodities thing is built into this oil thing, which they talked about in that other clip. But Rogers has one other little observation, it's right at the beginning of this clip so you won't have to play the whole thing, where he makes an interesting point about farmers and the fact that, uh, we're running out of them and I have something I've never considered before but play the Jim Rogers clip for a second see if we can get to that point. Enter when I was in Davos Jim and Syngenta is a company that makes crop protection chemicals pesticides fertilizers and his line on this was that farmers are responding that in 12-18 months time we're not likely to see any crisis in the supplies of soft commodities into the market

49:37 Isn't that an indication that perhaps we should be a little wary about chasing the agricultural food price rises that we've seen? I hope he's right, but he's not right because inventories of foodstuffs around the world are lowest in many years, or near the lowest in many years. Jeff, the average age of farmers in one major agriculture state in the US is 58 years old. In 10 years those guys are going to be 68 years old. We have shortages, in parts of Japan they have no farmers. I mean this is not just the farmers responding, of course farmers are going to respond. But we're going to have more problems in the weather, we always have anyway. We have huge shortages of inventories, we have shortages of farmers.

50:23 I would like to think that's the case, but this historically cannot be. Jeff, it takes seven years for a coffee tree to mature. Orange trees, palm trees, you don't just snap your fingers and suddenly have some more palm oil. All this takes time. Jim, isn't there a risk though that what we're seeing in these commodity prices, given that they all seem to be correlated, is a response not to demand but to the QE, to the printing of money, to financial speculation. This is not... Yeah, that's what everyone's saying. Everyone's saying it's because of that. ...inflation in commodity prices, is it?

51:03 Well, yeah, I'm sorry to disagree with you, but first of all, QE2 is part of it. Whenever governments have printed money throughout history, people put their money into real assets, whether it's rice or silver or natural gas. People protect themselves. People don't just sit there and say, oh, give me some more paper money that's being debased. That's part of the problem right now. But the more serious problem is, you say it's not demand. Go to India, go to China, see how people are changing their lives and how they're using more. But it's also supply, Jeff. Commodities are based on supply and demand. You could have demand go down, but if the supply goes down more, you're going to have a bull market. This is simple stuff and it's happening right now.

51:46 plays right into the whole Monsanto conversation. This is the... Oh yeah, the Monsanto conversation is part of this and of course they're Terminator seeds which are the worst things in the world because you can't, you know, what happens when the company goes out of business. It's almost like, this is like people who buy software for some flaky software company and they got you locked up. So you have to keep calling home to run the software and then the company goes out of business that calls home the company's not there anymore. The software stops working. This is essentially what Monsanto's dreamed up with its seeds. The same kind of scheme which is extremely dangerous and people should reject it. And in fact... I was going to say that in Iran

52:25 uh... of course times iran iraq which was taken away to i got a link in the show notes about this uh... farmers are are having to give up farming because who was in their monsanto it's the same thing they've there is all their seeds are in there the farmers can plant their own seeds that they've and now that now it they have to import rice from america is complete takeover and there was another the these guys This is the true evil that we have to look out for. We talked about this, but Michael Taylor, former Monsanto executive, is now running the FDA. Actually, deputy commissioner for foods at the FDA. This is the guy who helped write the rules for bovine growth hormone, which of course is now in our food system.

53:16 uh... he was actually a lobbyist for monsanto and now he's in the fda who of course based upon the executive order that uh... the president uh... handed out on the eighteenth of january can write their own regulations right to do whatever they want to they can just say whatever they want you know now we're allowed to have percolate poisoning in our water but only a certain amount I would suggest people out there Google the following search term. Let me do it with you right now. I'm going to Google it. I could do it now too. Okay. Because I haven't done it for a while. Let's Google. Let's Google. Farmers in India suicide.

53:52 Yeah, you can do that for almost any... except for America. Well, eventually it'll happen here, but apparently in India there's an epidemic of farmers committing suicide. Yes. And a lot of it has to do with Monsanto and other seed companies. They're not the only ones who do this, by the way. and uh... it's because they're not allowed to do their own did many farming is that the traditional uh... practice in some areas and they do things a certain way and they can't you know they david their rapeseed uh... usage for example they were forced to uh... You know, they used to do it by hand. It's a very known little anecdotal thing. The Indians used to make their own rapeseed, you know, kind of one-off for local use and it was a fairly healthy product but rapeseed is a very dangerous oil as a matter of fact. But apparently if it's super fresh and you just make it, it's okay but when you start buying the commercial stuff that they started selling them cheaper because the problem with most people in the world is they'll buy cheap

54:50 Rather than by quality and it's a it's a it's a real problem I mean, it's like the situation with with eggs when you when my wife finishes her book on eggs Which is wrapping up. Yeah, she actually does the books right? She actually she does She finishes stuff sometimes but anyway, this book's taking forever But the point is is that there's stuff we're finding out about the egg business is like wow. I And again, it's because people want to buy 18 eggs at Costco for 99 cents instead of paying 3 bucks. I mean, for a good egg. People will actually... this was a line from Food Inc. which I really love, which I saw recently. Someone will sit there and complain about the price of eggs.

55:31 while they're drinking a three dollar can of coca-cola. Yeah, or water. Water, bottle of water. Vitamin water. Yeah, vitamin water. Or one of those commercial, you know, P. Diddy's water, you know, whatever. No, P. Diddy has vodka. He didn't have water. Well, some of these, a couple of these rappers have got, hip hop artists. Hip hoppers, thank you. They're hip hop. Have water. And they sell it. And then people will pay a fortune for this. Yeah, that's a great, hey, you know, we should be doing that. They'll pitch you about a five cent age. We need to get in on that water scan, man. What are you talking about? I did want to wrap up the Monsanto thing with a little ditty from Down Under. There was a girl who was dying from aspartame poisoning, which they call, what do they call it in Australia? Aspartame or something like that. Aspartame? I don't know. I pronounce it ten different ways. Anyway, it was kind of an interesting report.

56:26 Which starts off with music. For Abigail Cormack it was a compulsive habit, but something she'll never do again. This by the way almost happened to my daughter. You get hooked on the chewing gum with aspartame and it's addictive and you can't stop. The 25 year old was addicted to chewing gum between four and eight packets a day until it made her violently ill. Basically just started getting really bad muscle cramps, tingling in my arms, couldn't sleep. I had a few other symptoms like headaches and a few other things. Doctors put it down to over exercising, but along the way she thought she was having a heart attack and was even tested for multiple sclerosis. So she turned to the internet. I looked at the back of the chewing gum packet and saw what was in it and googled the ingredients and sure enough a spartan came up. A spartan? Went and had a look at that.

57:17 up came all my symptoms, every single one of them. So she stopped chewing and her symptoms quickly cleared up. Aspartame's a chemical ingredient of artificial sweeteners used in thousands of products. Her own doctor told 3 News she thinks aspartame may well have been to blame but that more research is needed. Yeah, no, it gets better because they get an expert and the expert of course says no, no this is a perfect... Expert on the payroll. A pharmacologist though is skeptical, putting Cormac's symptoms down to an allergic reaction. For the vast majority of people who chew one piece of gum or a packet of gum in a day or what have you, it's highly unlikely to cause any problem for them.

57:57 and our food regulatory body is standing by its use. We watch constantly what's going on internationally and aspartame has been recently reviewed in Europe for safety and has come up with a clean bill of health. It's also been permitted in most other countries as a non-nutritive sweetness. All the other countries are doing it, it's great! What are you worrying about? I'm confident that the way it's used in the food supply is safe. The makers of the gum that Cormac used to compulsively choose is it's confident that there's no health risk. Wrigley's point out that a spartan is the most tested food additive in history. This is the funny thing, the most tested foods thing in history. Additive. Yeah, but it got rejected. Does that make sense? It kept getting rejected over and over and over again until Donald Rumsfeld who worked at the

58:45 uh... what it was used to be a month and uh... it was bought by my santo was no worse or used to be a part of monsanto i don't i don't know what i think our somebody else i don't think it was months and i know there is a that it became became a monsanto product or was a monsanto product doesn't matter if they kept getting rejected until ron rumsfeld came into the first bush cabinet and then all of a sudden they got approved this is crazy by the way donald rumsfeld is going to be honored at the conservative political action conference CPAC as defender of the Constitution award. What? Taking us in foreign entanglements? Phony baloney wars? You should be throwing pies at the guy. You know what? Shoe! Throw your shoes at him. These conservatives behind this should be ashamed of themselves. Ashamed of themselves.

59:41 And by the way, I love the shoe meme cropping up in Egypt again people holding up their shoe It the only thing it would be the only thing better would be if it had a foot in it But I think the shoe thing it kind of went away after that one guy threw a shoe at Bush It needs to come back. We need to start throwing shoes In America, okay? In America. This will show your true brotherhood with... Shoe throwers everywhere. With your slaves around the world. Throw your shoe at your politicians. I'm inciting violence here by the way. I don't think shoe throwing is violent. If you're like Bush, he could duck and bob and weave. He never got hit by a shoe. I'm just saying. Shoes are good. Throwing shoes. And we could have the shoe revolution. The Nike revolution. That could be coming.

1:00:32 Anyway, I just thought that was pretty unbelievable. Yeah, well, I think we need a new jingle. Oh. And I heard the wording. It has to be kind of... You know, the thing about the jingle, like for example, play the NoAgendaDivorce.org.na jingle. devorak.org slash n a it grows on you and you'll be singing it you'll be singing you'll be that way people can remember where the website is so they can donate and I did it does become catchy but this one I think should be experts on the payroll that's not catchy it will be catchy if if Jeff does it yeah well by the way

1:01:10 experts on the payroll very catchy i guarantee it jeff has done a couple jingles for us which i'd i'd love him for doing that so he did this awesome news effects for when we have something important to say uh... but this one i like a lot of well which i think uh... department of homeland security could actually use They're probably jealous. It would be perfect for them. Hi, I'm Lucy Napolitano. Yeah, actually you're right. It's actually the wrong side on this one. Jeff, you went too far. You went too far my friend. That's funny. Should we thank a couple people while we're here at the halfway mark? Yeah, I think we should.

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1:05:19 He says, uh, I want to ask for some karma for myself, but I'd really like it if you gave yourself and John some karma as well. And so I'd like us to just stand back for a second, John, and accept some karma. I think we deserve a little bit. You've got karma. His girlfriend of two years just broke up with him, so he needed a little extra karma there. Alright, well let's thank a few other people. Bill Clanton in San Antonio, and thank you for the karma. Bill Clanton in San Antonio, Texas. John and Adam have been listening for 16 shows now and decided to put in a dollar per the number of the show for me. So the first one was one, the second was two and so on until number 16, $16 for the last one. It's like the guy doing the push-ups for Oregon University or University of Oregon. Now I will start over at $1 for this show. I'm a criminal defense attorney in San Antonio.

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1:06:45 So, uh, Bill says that silence is golden and handcuffs are silver. Uh, Keith, I'm not sure quite what that means, but whatever. Keith Edwards, Gilbert, Arizona, $111.11 along with uh... that mister snakes pay snakes bait snakes from amsterdam get motion is that he can pass yeah hundred eleven dollars eleven cents he's working his way to a one one one one one uh... i'd believe night of night with cool salvatore a bar area in montreal kebec uh... i am all uh... i am all in the morning or over john and adam i'm not sending you a eighty dollars

1:07:26 The original cost of the two No Agenda Challenge coins I ordered back in August. I finally received them thanks to you and Eric. I also purchased the domain name Echomachination.com. I think it's supposed to be... Okay, so he came up with an alternative to General Electric's Ecomagination.com. Yeah, this is Ecomagination.com, which is... And he's redirected it to the No Agenda Show, and I encourage everyone to redirect any site you have that you're not using to our show. Lastly, can you give Sarah a little more karma? She wrote to you back a while back about an arts grant that the Harper government was trying to tax her on. She's fighting it. You're not supposed to be taxed on grants. But she's not getting out of the woods yet. Tell everyone not to follow me on Twitter. It's not worth it at Salvation. You've got karma.

1:08:18 which is using the mechanism to tell someone not to do something do not follow at salvation yes james uh... briscoe bayshore new york i again from your long island listener after giving speech in my job in december to gradually on a row all my fellow devs uh... then embarking on a month-long trip to india to learn more about the love of my life i think that i pray I love, I came back in January to find that I cannot work at my job anymore partially due to said speech. Oh boy! partially due to the direction of the company is going in. So now I've got some free time and some free savings. I figure now would be a good time to donate to those who have given me much to listen to while I develop my new business. Kudos guys, still capturing the live streams every week, the donation, which is useful. The donation amounts based on my loves ASCII initials in case you were wondering, $71.78 from James Briscoe. Interesting story.

1:09:18 Light Chow, Daly City, California local in the morning Adam and John today is my birthday as you will give her a birthday call in a second as Adam mentioned on the show my adding age and birth year equals 111 Adam. Can you explain that again? Yes, so you take the last two digits of your birth year mine would be 64 you add that to the the age you'll become this year, now Cory we can't do this too long because people are going to start stopping having birthdays, so I will be turning 47 if that equals 111 extra karma if you donate to the show. There you go.

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1:13:15 I mean if you're driving if you're in the car, I mean this is the kind of thing that it's about about right dollar an hour Subscription, which is a great way to keep us going. Yeah, and you know, we're doing something. Yeah. Well, we're doing some work Yeah, but you're doing actual work to Borac org slash n a So turning 28 today we say congratulations to Lai Chow who supported us and we highly appreciate that. So Lai, happy birthday from your buddies here at the No Agenda Show. Well, very happy to see not one but two synchronized videos of an actual UFO descending upon the Temple Mount in Israel.

1:14:06 I'm sure you've seen that John. No I haven't. Oh my goodness it's beautiful. There's this clearly extraterrestrial craft and there's two separate videos that have been put together from two separate vantage points. Yeah, how did they get both the videos? Can you see? I'm sorry? How did they get both the videos? Was it the same guy? No, no, two separate people uploaded to YouTube and then people have put these two side by side. So let me get this straight. So above the Temple Mount, which is not really a high area, it's pretty low, but right there in the middle, this is basically the middle of Jerusalem. Yes.

1:14:42 uh... a light comes in a flying saucer comes down and two people only two people take a shot at it and it would and everybody else looks up and goes hey it's interesting looks like a flying saucer wedged by the way do how much do you want for that blanket i mean what what are you telling me so uh... when you see this video you will be astounded and this light comes down it's zips down it hovers for about fifteen seconds and then shoots up right back up into the sky That'd be like an optical illusion. An optical... it's at night by the way. An optical illusion of what? You non-believer, you're a denier. You're denialist you. Okay, I'll look at this. Science is in! You have a link in the show notes, I can look, watch this video. Yes, I have a link in the show notes. I'll blog it if it's good. If it's entertaining, I'll blog it. It's not just entertaining, I have a feeling this could be the real deal. I'm really liking it.

1:15:43 I uh, oh actually I have something for you John, here we go. John, if you were Chuck Schumer and you were a senior member of the governmente in the United States of Gitmo Nation. Oh Chuck Schumer, one of the guys who supports the idea of creating a super, kind of a secret police, that guy? Yeah, that guy, that guy, who's been around, who was by the way the mentor of Anthony Weiner. Oh yeah, absolutely. Douchebag Weiner. John Stewart's ex-roommate just to connect all the dots for you and if you were talking about the three branches of government in the United States of Gitmo. Yeah. Executive, the judicial and the legislative.

1:16:28 He sees it differently. uh... over the last several years of god forbid even a depression so i would urge my republican colleagues on no matter how strongly they feel you know we have three branches of government we have a house we have a senate we have a president and all three of us together and give some but is playing with fire he's the shutting in a great yeah he's terrible and i bet he believes it too and where the three bread were two of the three branches of government stupid slave shut up

1:17:10 that's very funny. I mean how can you make that mistake? Well, the same mistake he made when he says that we could have a depression. The hell do you think we're in? Yeah, really. Douche. This is a depression. Douche. So, talking about depressions and this sort of thing, I think, you know, I don't know how many billionaires we have listening to our show. I believe probably none, but because they're too busy counting their money. But there is an interesting It has been brought up on a lot of the right wing, by the right wingers, especially people like Rush Limbaugh who was actually close to being a billionaire himself. By the way, his producers listen. You know how many shows, mainstream media shows, listen to no agenda for ideas? Yeah, they're looking for great concepts. A lot. Yeah, I know. Thanks for the money boys. Yeah, douches. You know, one of these days we may not be doing the show because the guys like you not coughing up. No service for you!

1:18:09 That's right. Then where are you going to get your material? So there's definitely, you know, Limbaugh harps on a kind of a war of the classes, a class warfare. and how Obama's like, you know, part of it. He's trying to attack the rich, soak the rich, as the rich would put it. But I got the biggest kick out of this story last night on Law & Order SVU, and I think that this kind of display, the billionaire clip that I have here, and this is kind of, I think, where this is headed, and I'm just gonna warn everybody out there, you're gonna have your head on a stick if you don't do something about public relations for your cause, whatever it might be.

1:18:46 Sorry, it appears she does not want to pursue this matter. We have a billionaire pervert flying in underage girls for sex, so trust me, we will be pursuing the matter. This is based on reality, it's that douchebag in Florida who got off. Yeah, pun intended. The guy was flying in from all over the world, he was flying in underage girls. This is nothing new. This happens all the time. It hasn't been on popular television for ever. So this makes all the billionaires out to be perverts and see where that heads. See where that leads when people have to decide who gets taxed.

1:19:33 Right. By the way, they're going after talking about these little class warfare things. Fox, which has taken the side of the oil companies obviously, or where's Glenn Beck? Who cares? I don't care where Glenn Beck is. No, I'm just saying that you don't take a guy like that off the air unless you send a hitman to do a special message. That's what I'm just saying. I don't care about Glenn Beck either. Now, but let's take a look at this other thing they're doing. They're attacking, finally, somebody's attacking General Electric, who's been attacking them for years at Fox because General Electric pays, apparently, most corporations in this country pay between 30 and 36 percent corporate tax. General Electric's tax is 3 percent.

1:20:17 which means the county essentially be out of business if they were paying the the full ticket and they're starting this is going to start cropping up in the news a lot because they're actually going after general electric especially after obama brought another they no longer have the media arm they can't general electric doesn't have television to to fight back anymore so now they're not i think this is going to start they couldn't do when stark is as a gentleman's agreement you know this amongst the networks Yeah, you don't mess with the other network. Exactly. Yeah, you don't do, for example, you don't go after the Walt Disney Corporation for, you know, deaths at the amusement park. You don't go after General Electric for faulty jet engines. You don't do anything that hurts one of the other companies. No, no, you gotta be in the brotherhood. You gotta play along with the game. They'll go after you. I mean, you can do that. General Electric's getting out of this.

1:21:08 Hmm, they're gonna get they're gonna be a target now you watch. Okay, that's a prediction Would you please write that in the book prediction book little prediction speaking of tax by the way? Nice little note there from Gitmo nation east. Let me just see which douchebag said this but it looks like tax rates Who said this Andrew Tyree who is this guy? I'm not sure who he is. Thank you, darling one. I Oh, it looks like the governor of the Bank of England is saying this, Mervyn King, a couple other people coming out saying tax rates for the middle class, that's the moderately high earners in Gitmo Nation East could go up to 83%.

1:21:56 What? Yeah, it's happened before by the way. 83%? Yeah, income tax. This is not new. Say I made $100,000 in England. Yeah. So I would pay $80,000 in taxes and I have $20,000 to live on? Yeah. This has happened before I think in the... That's bullcrap. I can't believe this is possible. John, in 1972 when we moved to Gitmo Nation lowlands, income tax was 75%. This is very possible. You should study your history boy. This happened in 1979 in England.

1:22:41 This is how it works with the boom and the bust cycle in the, at best, moderately socialist countries. It's just that now everyone's used to having the iPod and the iPhone and your internet and all this, and we got a nice car and we got lots of costs and now it's like, what? I gotta get rid of all that? Yeah, this is how it works. Remember, I remember my parents. I remembered so well. This is when the dollar was eight guilders Which would be the equivalent of four euros, of course now that's completely reversed I remember my parents gonna like wow this place is crazy 75% income tax, but you get free health care Yeah, I like that that's a good show yeah You got free health care

1:23:33 Yeah, hey, but we do have bad news. Heroin is running out in England. No! We gotta crank it up. What's the next crop? We used to follow the crop cycle in Afghanistan. Well, there's a little problem going on. I think there's one coming up in two months. Remember now that the heroin was getting really cheap. And of course, you know, we're part of the reason we're in Pakistan. Afghanistan is to actually protect the poppies and help the heroin be moved out because a large portion of the economy of the United States runs on illegal drugs so we've got to make sure it keeps running but the Brits are jacking up the price. We've spoken to farmers in Helmand which is the main poppy growing province in the south of Afghanistan and they tell us that their poppy fields have been absolutely devastated

1:24:23 by a mysterious white powder. Hmm, mysterious white powder you say? Which has also hit their wheat fields and their fruit trees. Who cares? Yeah, this is that stuff that, some sort of mildew or fungus, I forgot what it was. Yeah, no one cares about the wheat, the poppies. Harming their chicken and their livestock. Fuck the chickens, sorry. And they've been quick to accuse... Sorry, that slipped out at me to do that. I'll bleep that out. The Afghan authorities and NATO of trying to poison their poppy fields. They're saying it! Hey, those guys are poisoning our poppy fields! Yeah, because we gotta do something about the price, bitches, don't you understand? Now those claims of course aren't entirely without foundation, because it has been the policy of the government and their foreign allies in the past to try to eradicate these poppy fields. Bullcrap! Bullcrap! Protecting the poppy fields! The profits of the opium trade support the Taliban insurgency, which is,

1:25:23 At its strongest in the south of the country in Helmand and Kandahar which are the main poppy growing areas and also interestingly About a decade ago. We know that the UN and British scientists were trying to develop a fungus which would destroy The opium poppy's grown here in Afghanistan. But government officials, the UN and Western officials were spoken to here in... Yeah, whatever, shut up. Alright, so the price of your heroin is about to go up, which would have been good news for the producer of Loose Change 9-11. Did you hear about that? No, tell me. Yeah, what's his name, Roe?

1:26:09 Let me see... Corey Rowe was arrested for and charged with the sale of heroin. It's like, how else do you think movies get financed, douchebag? What else is new? You just don't try not to get caught. No, that's unfortunate that that happened. Pretty funny though. WikiLeaks the movie is coming, John. What kind of a movie would this be? Well, now that Julian Assange is nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize, you know, it makes a lot of sense. Yeah, well I guess, yeah, I guess that's got to be the new connection, you get your Nobel Peace Prize if you do a movie like Al Gore did. And that's the key, that's the key to success. A biography about WikiLeaks editor-in-chief Julian Assange has been optioned as a movie. It's called The Most Dangerous Man in the World.

1:27:08 So we can look forward to that. He was on 60 Minutes being interviewed. Yeah. It was a snooze. Yeah, it was. I didn't see it on TV. I watched, I think I got through segment one online and part of segment two. It's like, oh you beat me. Yeah, it's just like what? Who cares? Really? It's just, I can't believe, don't people see it already? Now I say we both have a clip about salt. Yeah, I got my salt clip, which is just a general salt clip that's starting to show up again. It seems to have been taken out of the picture like a few months ago because they were ridiculing it. And now they're bringing it back in to the public consciousness for some reason. Well, I think it's because the FDA just released their guidelines.

1:27:57 Right, and so it became a news item. Right. You can play, mine is a basic news statement with a little commentary including a stupid, I got like the woman who's doing this, camera, Jessica Aguirre I think is her name, she's a local. news reader and she makes some dumb comment at the end about how just you can play the whole clip and you hear this thing at the end is like what? Well hold the salt that's what the federal government is saying now part of its revamped edition of the federal dietary guidelines and new this year those with high blood pressure diabetes chronic kidney disease African-Americans of all ages and everyone over age 51 should limit their salt intake to just 1500 milligrams a day. That's going to require a lot of label reading and lots of practice getting those taste buds prepared. Your sense of taste develops with time and by diminishing a little bit at a time... Doesn't this sound... hold on, stop. Doesn't this woman, this is a woman who's the expert, the expert on the payroll.

1:28:56 Doesn't this woman sound like big nurse and one flew over the cuckoo's nest? Yes, she does. Yeah, it's I'm sure it's not entirely coincidental. We'll get used to it pretty quickly It's going to be a little tough though because the average American consumes 3,400 milligrams of sodium a day. But two-thirds of adults overweight or obese, these guidelines are aimed at helping them lose that excess weight and get healthy and lose some of that excess water weight. Shut up. So... Wait a minute, you missed the end of it. No, I heard it. She says lose some of the excess water weight. What does that got to do with anything? Nothing. Nothing.

1:29:34 nothing it the whole thing is bogus so it totally i love me some salt i think what happened a lot of second let me ask you a question yeah not an ask at all i'm not playing uh... really cuz i don't think you have time to listen that clip probably be we got tons of jingles if you want if you want to ask adam jingle than just so you know i don't Okay, so the point is that didn't we wasn't there a research report that we read on the show that came out? It was kind of it was just a short news item and then they just dropped it completely which were the scientists conclusively proved that this salt thing is bogus Yeah, didn't we even read the thing we had the site. It was like a solid report that said is all bullcrap Yeah, but this is all part of Codex Alimentarius the harmonization with the food rulers around the world

1:30:25 right well it's now let me just say i'd love me some salt i put salt on the on the coffee before uh... before the water goes on to the the coffee grind uh... i have uh... shredded wheat in the morning and i put a little bit of salt on that i'd love me some salt and i'm not going to die early and by the way of stop smoking now for almost two months which is another reason i can add i early he's not from that now the clip i have on salt is a as a uh... complete racial Clip which really blew me away. Just listening to it. So the news reporter who was African American She's not black. She's more brown and She gets this boots Woman from some website. She's the expert in this clip some website Which is like the healthy rotten tomato comm or something and she also writes for Huffington Post and she's a total boots and

1:31:20 And, well listen to the clip and tell me if this is not the most wrong discussion you've ever heard and how she, well just listen to it. All African Americans and anyone suffering from hypertension, diabetes or chronic kidney disease are being urged to reduce daily salt intake to about half a teaspoon. Did you know that? That they're targeting African Americans? All African Americans. All African Americans. The other clip had the same thing. For everyone else, the government continues to... For all other non-black people... This is horrible. Is this what our government is saying now? There's an actual difference between black and white? ...to recommend about a teaspoon a day or about one third less than the average person usually consumes. And joining me now is Dara

1:32:05 Daria, excuse me, Pino, health writer for the Huffington Post and the creator of the health conscious website, summertomato.com. I think we should have a health conscious website, John. Summertomato.com. Thanks so much, Daria, for joining me. So we kind of knew this was coming and we've been hearing about the possible dietary restrictions, but I've got to ask you, the people that they've zeroed in on, first African Americans, all African Americans, why is this group being focused in so much on? I think it's a problem, you know, the health issues and hypertension and blood pressure are a problem in that community and they just want to address more specific issues. She's an idiot. I know, you have to see her though. You'd bang her in a heartbeat. TheHealthyTomato.com. I think it's a problem with the community.

1:32:57 So what they're saying is poor people is that it can't why don't they just come out and say it black people are poor it's the most disgusting thing I've ever heard. It's really it really bothered me how these... I thought it was based on some genetics information. Bull crap! Bull crap! That's what I thought it was based on but you might be right. Yeah it's because whatever the case is poor people poor people eat crap because that's the only thing that you can afford in this country is Taco Bell Which, uh, what, I love reading about the meat in the Taco Bell. Oh, they love the meat, the taco. Because it's called, it's filled up with silicon dioxide. And Taco Bell has actually responded to this because of course if you Google silicon dioxide, it's sand.

1:33:44 And Taco Bell actually has on their website, we don't put sand in our food, silicon dioxide is a very important part of your diet. Yeah, bullcrap. It's naturally occurring, it's always naturally occurring. It's a very important part of your diet. Silicon dioxide, they're putting sand in your food people. It's great. And the Centers for Disease Control, you'll love this. They've come out now with their full statement on raw milk, John. And you need to watch it, my friend.

1:34:23 reading directly from the centers for disease control and prevention raw you're talking about the until really for most of the for most of the existence of mankind uh... raw milk was drunk regularly by everybody are you talking about that raw milk that has been for millennia that people just about the come straight out of the county drink it developing a healthy lifestyle is a process with many decisions and steps One step you might be thinking about is adding raw milk to your diet stupid slave Raw milk is milk that has not been pasteurized to kill harmful germs germs include bacteria viruses parasites It's important to understand the risks of drinking raw milk, especially because you may be hearing claims about the supposed benefits of raw milk I love you, darling. Where you going? Hold on a second John you're out. I

1:35:21 Yeah, meetings. Alright. Alright. Alright. Alright. I love you. Hey, pick up some raw milk, will ya? It'll be healthy for you. You can't get good raw milk down there. Don't buy any. The risk of getting sick from drinking raw milk is greater for infants, young children, and the elderly. Raw milk, it'll kill ya! Yeah, we can totally do this. It's like, dangers of raw milks on next Geraldo. Yeah, so anyway, so that's your ministry of truth at work telling you to shut up. Well, they've been after the raw milk guys for a while. Because the fact of the matter is they have a cleaner operation and it's all about cleanliness. And the other guys, I mean this is like the irradiated food thing, I keep telling people, you know. It kills everything. Yeah, it kills everything and makes the meat safer, but then it just gives the guys a license to serve dog shit in the meat because it's basically been sterilized. Sand.

1:36:22 Or sand. I think I'm gonna try cooking some meat tonight and just throw some sand in there. See if I can come up with the taste of the Taco Bell. It's unbelievable. It really is unbelievable. Let them get away with it. They can do whatever they want. Now let me move over to my other favorite topic, which is vaccines. This actually was pointed out to me. It's a game called... What is this game called? It's a new game. uh... called home front this was crazy games all the kids are playing john never heard of it uh... i think this is a trailer i think from it and you got a timeline and you fast forward to the timeline uh... february second two thousand twenty three unfortunately uh... the show is uh... today shows on the twenty eyes on the third of february otherwise it would have been even better uh... but listen to what happens when you fast forward in the new game home front

1:37:26 This is a television set you're seeing. This is a governmental emergency broadcast for February 2nd, 2023. This is not a drill. I repeat, this is not a drill. There is currently a national flu epidemic in progress in all 50 states of America. It may be called the Knoxville cough, two-day flu, the sickness, Asian cough, death flu, or other names. No matter what it is called, this is the same viral flu outbreak. Your government is working on developing a vaccine, but at this time your safest precaution is to stay indoors with your family. Avoid contact with strangers.

1:38:09 Avoid congregating in large groups and avoid public meeting areas. Stay away from all grocery stores, churches and public transportation. Hospitals in your area are currently overloaded with flu cases and cannot accept any more. If you are sick, stay at home, take bed rest and drink fluids. Do not attempt to seek help. Dusk to dawn curfews are in effect for the following cities in your area. Albany, Elizabeth, Jersey City, Newark, New York, and White Plains. This message repeats in 30 minutes. This is from a game? Yeah, it's mind controlling the little human resources. Get ready for it. Wow. Sickening, isn't it? Meanwhile, we're actually with the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation who've donated 1.6 billion dollars to the following cause which is the Gavi Alliance, G-A-V-I.

1:39:03 A link in the show notes, no agenda show dot com. They're killing little black kids in Africa by injecting them with unnecessary bogus vaccines. Welcome to the Langata Health Center in Nairobi. Very busy today because all these moms have brought their infants in to be immunized against pneumonia which is the number one cause of child mortality. Children under five throughout the world. Now, pneumonia is not a virus. It's just not. There's a viral pneumonia. But most vaccines are against, are bacterial oriented anyway. Yeah, but pneumonia as far as I understand is caused by pneumococcus. Exactly. So you're telling me that there's a vaccine against that? Yeah, well there's a vaccine. Vaccines tend to be against stuff like that. Well how come you don't take it?

1:39:54 Why, what, I'm not worried about getting pneumonia. Why not? I'm over-vaccinated. I can get through pneumonia with the antibiotics after the fact. I don't buy this. To me this is like they're shooting these kids up there. What I don't buy is the stats. I don't believe that most kids that die from pneumonia, they die from starvation, they die from all kinds of things. Yeah, war. Yeah, pneumonia seems to be low on the list. I don't know. How do you catch pneumonia in Africa? It's not that cold. That's the other thing. That's true. Pneumonia tends to be in cold weather. 7 million deaths a year. 7 million? The new vaccine, the pneumococcal vaccine will protect against the main cause of pneumonia and against meningitis. I think they're giving them pneumonia.

1:40:40 Well, that's a possibility. I mean, you have to remember, and Gates of course is said to be so self-serving. Eugenicist. The guy kills people. These are the same people that claim that the world needs 500 million, the population should be 500 million, no more, no less. and we've got what we're pushing how many billions? We're pushing six, seven billion. So we have to kill five over five billion people somehow. Well Africa seems like a good place to start. Africa is a good place to start because you know we don't get this we don't have to watch it. Well they're also going to immunize them against the deadly diarrhea virus.

1:41:20 Is there a virus that causes diarrhea? There's a million things that cause diarrhea. But there's a vaccine against it. There's a diarrhea vaccine apparently. That doesn't make any sense. Well, listen to the report. Some blood poisoning. It's the same jab these children will get that children in the UK, Europe... Oh, the children in the UK and Europe will get the same vaccine. Oh, nice. The United States... and here. Forget. Now, it comes on the day that Save the Children... By the way, any organization that's called Save the Children, you know, you know, you know that's doublespeak. Save the Children. What? It's like all those bills they are introducing Congress, the Internet Improvement Act. Yeah, exactly. I'm paying no child born to die and with me to discuss that is Catherine Fitzgibbon from Save the Children. Catherine, tell me what your main message is.

1:42:08 I think Save the Children is trying to highlight the fact that far too many children under five are dying every single day and many of them are dying from a really basic disease such as pneumonia. This simple intervention is going to make a huge difference, not only if the vaccines are purchased and get out to all the children that need them. I think about 19 countries, poorer countries are going to get this pneumococcal vaccine but there are more who could have it if the money was there. Absolutely. We estimate there's a funding gap of about £500 million at the moment for vaccines worldwide. Not just the pneumonia vaccine but all the other vaccines. that these children are regularly getting at the moment. And if that hole is not filled, governments are making a tacit acceptance that children are born to die and they will die from basic diseases without those vaccines.

1:42:57 message over pretty strongly I imagine? Yes definitely we need to buy the vaccines but on top of that we need to get the vaccines out there and we need to invest in health services and health systems that mean that vaccines get to every child that needs them. Okay Catherine Fitzgibbon thanks very much indeed well it's reckoned that if this vaccine and another new vaccine against diarrhoea... There you go and a new vaccine against diarrhea meanwhile in finland now confirmed h1n1 uh... swine flu vaccine causing narcolepsy in children confirmed confirmed by who uh... the panel what panel well i'll bring it up right now the national narcolepsy panels interim report suggests that that

1:43:41 Pandemrix vaccination increases the risk of narcolepsy nearly tenfold. It says children age 4 to 19 were 9 to 10 times greater risk of contracting narcolepsy within 8 months of the inoculation compared with those who did not get the vaccination. Really? 52 Finnish children were given... Well this is like suppressed news. 52 Finnish... I don't see this on the 6 o'clock. Well because Anderson Cooper got punched in the face. Anderson Cooper, punched in the face. 52 Finnish children were given the vaccine last winter subsequently came down with narcolepsy which can be a debilitating lifelong condition. Yeah, this is all over the Gitmo Nation Scandinavia news. They're all talking about it. And you know, it's like big news in Finland.

1:44:28 It's unbelievable. It's not unbelievable, it's totally believable. No it's not, but it's like I'm always, like every show we do it's always something like this. And it's always like suppressed. Well of course, it's, you know, when you have a beautiful man, like Anderson Cooper, Anderson Cooper hitting the head. Don't touch the face! When you have a beautiful man like Anderson Cooper getting punched in the face, the world must stop. That is... who cares about anything else? You know, they played that punch in the face... by the way, the clip is lame. It's... yeah, because you don't see him getting punched in the face. If he was actually punched in the face, it would be cool. Yeah, you don't get to see nothing. You just see these guys... you see the ground and their feet run. Yeah, they go... And you hear someone else... Oh, they're pummeling me, they're pummeling me. I don't know what to do. You hear someone else actually say, oh man, Anderson, you just got punched in the face ten times. Please.

1:45:25 disgusting. Well, something's up with this. I'm amazed you didn't know about that. Well, it's funny because you sent me a link and that actually got me tracking vaccines again. You sent me a link, it was a pretty good link. What was it, John? I sent you a couple links this week. Yeah, I mean, notice I didn't respond because I'm like, oh, if I respond then we'll never talk about it. No, which is the way to go. Yeah, although now I've... Oh, here it is. Swine flu vaccine is depopulation. that's the link you sent me. I was like, wow, John, crackpot! And that's why I sent it to you, because it's right up your alley. But it was written by someone who was also in the Bush administration. It seems like a lot of people who were in the Bush administration who are now a little bit older are now coming out and saying all this, you know, crazy stuff. But this person actually says, you know, swine flu

1:46:22 Here in short, an epidemic can be used to offset the inflation of capital with increasing deflation of the value of income of labor and continual demand destruction. It's a great deal of time and money spent on something that will not help a real economy. The disinformation and control opportunities are profound. The whole idea is that even the idea, so we have to bring it back to 500 million people. That's what the eugenicists believe and I'm pretty sure Bill Gates believes that. And look, did the guy really make great software? Yeah, he told he said that once in his speech. I think we had a clip of it bill was talking. He was vague Yeah, he's talking about population control. We have too many people well Yeah, he had the equation where the human factor was zero so we have to bring that back the only way to lower Deaths is by killing people some weird. Yeah, that's right. It was something crazy some kind of a Ted like a Ted It was a TED talk

1:47:18 another we need to kill everybody so we can live yeah exactly exactly we are some offbeat I don't know how you get to that kind of thinking right okay so the so here the just the idea that there is so even if the vaccine doesn't kill you it may just put you to sleep That's so funny. It gives you narcolepsy. Narcolepsy is a dangerous thing to have. Especially if you're driving. Yeah, no, because you can just fall asleep instantly. I mean, I fall asleep when I'm driving once in a while, but it's like 2 in the morning maybe. And you wake up, right? Hopefully. Well so far yeah the but people yeah, you can write in the middle of the day You can be doing something and you just fall just not off boom instantly It's not like you need to take a three o'clock nap. This is not that no anyway so though the point of this article is that

1:48:06 even if the vaccine doesn't kill you or the diarrhea vaccine apparently there's a diarrhea vaccine on the way which everyone's gonna get. Oh, your kid has diarrhea? Well, have the vaccine. Your kid will never have diarrhea again. What a crock that is. Diarrhea is your body responding to something wrong. It's really important to have diarrhea. Try to get, yeah, it's trying to eliminate something. Yeah, but no, we'll have a vaccine against it. Just the idea that there is a virus that can be deadly puts enough stress on people and on a grand scale eliminates human resources because you die earlier because just of the stress of it all. Yeah, stress. Yeah, it's bad. Yeah, you think? So what, well, when you're done with this depressing news I got some real Newsweeking move. No, I think we should totally get into that.

1:48:58 And now, back to Real News. John C. Dvorak's Real News. because i watched it uh... is called live to dance it's up again it's up against american idol but instead of you know singing is dancing because there's a lot of dances shows on and this is not where what's your name ended up the girl that was fired from american i'll she's not judge over here uh... remember name but have chatroom knows uh... who cares alright get on with the real next year leader from ucln anyway so it's crying and i think that

1:49:45 John Boehner's part of this problem, but it's all over the place at first it play the LTD girl crying Clip which is the beginning of a clip before this group does its dance? Stop stop stop start it over again But I want everyone to pick up on the fact that she's rich. This is a scripted cry and she blows her line This is the last time you're gonna be dancing together I can't imagine my life without dance or like without these people. I'm gonna miss you guys a lot. We are one dance away from winning and it just has to be the dance of our lives. What did she blow? I couldn't hear what she blew. She says, I can't believe I'm going to not be able to dance. I mean dance with you. Oh, because she knew she was gonna lose.

1:50:44 Well no, besides doing that, there wasn't going to be their last dance anyway. But no, she said, I can't believe my life will be, I won't have dance in my life. And then she changed it to, I mean I won't have these people in my life. But it was obviously scripted. But it was a fake cry. It sounded like a little twit. Like what is it? Eight year olds do that, you know, they fake cry. I want to go down the ride, you know, that kind of thing. So this crying thing was like, so they went on and they danced and so I've got this this uh... judge number one clip and this is the kind of show this is just to give you an idea what the judge acts like. Travis, how did tWitch do tonight? That was awesome! That's quality! That is a way to start the finals of Live to Dance. This is not real news, this is junk. Why are you pouring this? This is the shows, people can go back to the early shows of No Agenda and Adam loved this stuff. So I got a call from CNN yesterday.

1:51:48 And they're like, yeah, I want to interview. And I'm like, ready? I'm like, OK. We want to interview. And I'm already thinking, if they want to come out to the house and talk to me and interview me about something, I'm just saying no, because I know how it goes. You spend five hours, and there's like three seconds of you with voiceover. I'm not going to do that. So the producer calls up. And I think he's actually a fan from the old MTV days. And they're doing a piece. about MTV doing nerd culture programming. I'm like, huh? Yeah, exactly. I'm like, what? It's like, yeah, so has MTV, you know, have they always been interested in technology and nerd culture? I said, have you ever googled me, douchebag? Have you ever seen that I registered MTV.com and they were like getting AOL keywords? Are you kidding me?

1:52:43 Well, I read up about you. Okay? Okay, and then it just went on like so at MTV did the did were they open to new programming ideas? I said no No, never to everything that was great at MTV happened by accident The only thing they were smart about was not playing music videos or they would be off the air So there was actually the smartest thing they ever did from a business perspective It's just like I can't believe that someone in Atlanta is getting paid to do this What what are you doing a show about nerd culture? Yeah, so what is the difference between a nerd and a geek? Oh? And I was dumbfounded. I'm like you know maybe you should ask my 20 year old daughter So I really the difference between a nerd and a geek I don't know what the difference is between a nerd and a geek and he's recording this and we just record this ah This is the idiocy this is the idiocy by the way when you think about it

1:53:39 We have more people listening to this show on a monthly basis, cumulative, than people that watch Piers Morgan. Oh yeah, I'm sure of that. You know, it's over. It's it's all just by the way. It's these industries are dying They will die the music industry finally croaked as Citibank took back EMI that was also not reported no Under reported at best not reported at all so it the EMI has been repoed by the bank literally took it back there is no business it's over and mainstream existed you know and mainstream is over it's it's it's just kind of running on its own gas well it's like the Queen Mary I mean you know the ships a big ship it's just gonna keep until it plows into the pier and then comes ashore you know it's still gonna keep moving and you know what's gonna happen there's gonna be tons of advertisers and everyone's gonna try and get on the bandwagon. The number of advertisers on an hour on cable now is

1:54:42 it makes the cable un... you can't watch it. Yeah, I know. You don't have a DVR, you're screwed. And of course everyone's got a DVR, we're not watching the commercials. Who cares? Yeah, once in a while there's a funny one, I have to admit. You know, I don't mind watching. It's rare. Yeah, it's very rare. Yeah, very rare. I did watch the final of Bridalplasty. Yeah, you're giving me crap for watching live to dance But there's something cool about women competing for for a complete facelifts and nose jobs for their Dream wedding and by the way the line I should have actually gotten a clip the line was So the girl who loses in the final well, you know, you're still gonna have your wedding, but it won't be perfect Wow

1:55:31 It's really bad. That's terrible. Yeah, it really is. That show is as bad as that little, what is it called? Tots and Tiaras? Oh my god. Yeah, that is perverted. That is very, that is really, really sick. I mean you're watching, I actually can't watch, I've never watched a whole movie. No, no, it's, as a father it hurts. You're like, oh my god. It's painful to watch the show because for one thing the moms are just, something's wrong with them. And the little girls are like, something's wrong with them too because they've been trained to think this is good. Yeah, and then the mom and the parents always say the same thing. Well as long as she's still enjoying it she can do it They always say the same thing something like that. Yeah, and I think the soup the soup is a good show I watch the soup because the soup makes fun of all and all the end the soup always shows these shows that I have no idea I know I'd wear these shows airing I They're all on Bravo. I guess I have no idea and and they showed a clip of

1:56:29 tots and tiaras and the kid and so the mom again is going like well as long as she's having fun he can continue it and then the kids see the kid literally fall over from exhaustion just topples over so I watched that I watched I finally because I think that this is an example I mean we to people listening to us we have this say which is as susceptible only we think we're not were as susceptible to some sort of really good scam a good promotion yes that's just a watch some happens all the time have sold taxes you can't well i don't know maybe maybe maybe they're not trying to scam into watching a piece of crap and they have a of rather i can't tell you what it is a bit set my alarm for this so i watched i watched the first episode you know of skin

1:57:14 Yeah, which was a great the British version was really good. Well this show is terrible and let me just say here's what the deal was Oh MTV executives may be thrown in jail for pedophilia. They admitted it There's a million news stories about how this is the worst thing ever, it's gotta be the worst show, it's a disgusting exploitation of teenage girls. Yeah, see I didn't fall for that one. It is bullcrap, it's like the worst show ever. Yeah it is. It's like college. Like, okay, that's what college is like, so what? Yeah, really. So what?

1:57:52 So I do have one little real, kind of not real news, but a news thing that's developing that we should be following, which is the fact that an American, play the American diplomat arrested. This is the beginning of the story. I have two clips. I have an American diplomat arrested. and this is a story that's kind of bubbling under the surface and then there's a follow-up story where they were they go after the pakistanis for for keeping this guy in jail in pakistan a u.s. official attached to the american embassy remained in custody in the shooting deaths of two pakistanis in lahore 15,000 people protested there on Sunday, waving flags and chanting demands that the man remain in custody. The U.S. Embassy said he acted in self-defense and has diplomatic immunity. The Pakistani government was unswayed and said it would leave the final decision to its courts. All right, so what is this about? Well, I'm not sure, but I'll tell you. First, I want to play the counter to it, which is the second clip. Pakistan.

1:58:54 supporters rallying outside a prison in the northern part of the country to support the confessed killer of a pakistani governor his bodyguard at the time the suspect says he killed the governor because of his criticism of pakistani laws which mandate the death sentence for insulting islam so we have the contrasting stories we have a guy who is protected by diplomatic immunity who they've grabbed and uh... and they're keeping him against all law you know all the agreements and treaties everything else he normally can't do that normally you don't and uh... and meanwhile they and all the crazy pakistanis are protesting that they're they would even think of letting this guy go they want to string up right there meanwhile the same pakistani maniacs are protesting the fact that some guy keep they were one to arrest some guy who killed the boss because he insulted islam i mean this is a this is the make out pakistan look like a bunch of crazy

1:59:51 Yeah, crazy idiots that we need to bomb. So that's the underlying subtext of all these stories. So I started looking on the Pakistani papers to see why the heck they arrested this guy in the first place and it is a screwball story. The guy was in the middle of nowhere someplace. He's obviously a spook. And he assassinated somebody on a motorcycle and another vehicle to rescue him because he was being surrounded by the locals came in on an SUV and ran over the other motorcyclist who apparently was involved in this. There's two guys on motorcycles and this guy and it's a screwy story and the whole thing doesn't make a lot of sense unless it's some sort of an operation that went bad.

2:00:30 and so the pakistanis are sorry you know they rest in a night but none of this is getting the pledge on because it did you know we've got anderson cooper is it and i know i think it's a disappointment to people who want to get the pakistani thing up again because now i think there's a lot of battling stories going on and then in stories of course completely whitewash like the fifth finland thing about uh... narcolepsy narcolepsy which is not getting any play i mean it's just been you know it's Barry Anderson Cooper hit 10 times in the head, film at 11. But anyway, this is a story that may crop up again. I mean, right, the guy's arrested. They're keeping him so they can bring this back up after this other stuff boils over. But we'll see. But I just want to make everyone aware of this story in the background. I have one from a category we haven't talked about much recently. All aboard, trains good, planes bad. Woo-hoo!

2:01:23 this coming from get my nation lowlands where they will soon be throwing wooden shoes at their political leaders is part of the wooden shoe revolution uh... so uh... uh... something that's been a big joke in the netherlands for the past all gosh i was a fifteen years is the high-speed rail they installed so uh... the french by the way called the netherlands and this is going to know which is that the northern train stop because that's the way you know the French are arrogant it's like all those people in Holland yeah they're just the they're just the train stop in the north so they created this high-speed rail which which goes right rips right down through the country they had they removed houses towns all kinds of stuff it runs parallel to the this go into play I've never been gone for 15 years this is the high-speed rail in in Gitmo Nation lowlands big joke billions and billions of euros billions of euros

2:02:17 And now Reuters reports, the Dutch high-speed train operator could face eventual bankruptcy unless steps are taken to boost its viability. After little more than a year of full services, infrastructure minister Melanie Schultz, who by the way is a crook, proven crook, like in court proven crook, Parliament debated the fate of services on Tuesday after Schultz van Hagen wrote in a letter to members that train operator high-speed alliance HSA faced a serious deficit. So what are we going to do? Well, I think given the situation, action on my part is necessary, she said. Adding that operational profits at HSA are substantially lower than those in Vigis due to fewer domestic passengers than originally projected. Yeah, because people don't want to take a stupid train. So the government... Where does it go from and to? It goes all the way down to France.

2:03:10 Well, most people when you're in Holland, you're in Amsterdam let's say, I can see maybe taking a high-speed rail to Rotterdam for business reasons, but you take a regular fast train, they're all over the place, to Cologne and then you jump on the French high-speed train and you get to Paris pretty quickly. Why would you take this train? It doesn't sound like it's going in the right direction. Well, no one's taking the train because they don't care. They don't want to go anywhere. But you're telling me, hold on a second, all the people, wait a minute, let me get this straight. You're telling me that in Europe where rail traffic is, or use is maxed out, I mean, this is the place where trains make sense, as opposed to the United States, for example, where trains make no sense except maybe between Boston and New York. But generally speaking, they make no sense, they make nothing but sense in Europe. You're telling me that a high-speed line can't even break even?

2:04:04 Some of HSA's trains travel with only 15% of their seats occupied. Well then how's it supposed to work in this country? It won't of course. But this was a huge scam. Given the situation... where is it? Here it is. To ensure continuity of service for the travelers, the HSA will operate the trains at the expense of the state. a human resources and get my nation lowlands hello hello how you feel and and this is this is the the government everybody wanted right yeah yeah i a this is the hit me so you know this is the government that he had builders the guy who should have been governing is you know he uh... he's a he's in the officially in the opposition

2:05:03 but the ruling party struck an agreement and they would operate all kind of together in this Dutch polder model as they call it and they'd accept all the terms. And meanwhile, so you're paying for stupid rail that no one's using, your coffee shops are closing, you have to get a weed pass to buy some weed, so no one's coming to Amsterdam anymore because you can't buy weed. Hello? Why else do you think the Brits come over there? For your weed! so you tourism is gonna go away yet and tourism is going to be hit hard to your right is a lot of brits in particular yeah this go to amsterdam and they say spend a lot of money and they go to those does bar places those uh... coffee shop shops and plenty of america are pretty elaborate and uh... yeah this is good for the local economy what not doesn't do anybody any harm any people walking around stoned so what they're walking around again driving the town anyway

2:06:04 No, it's groovy. Anyway. Well that's good. I think we wrapped up a uh... Important, important information there. Nothing but bad news. Message implying match fixing found on several sumo wrestler cell phones. I know you followed the sumos. Oh yeah, I do actually. But that, fix, fix sumo wrestling matches are nothing new. They're a tradition. Yeah, it's the way it's supposed to be. Yeah. Alright, so we'll keep a close eye and see which news reporter gets hit in the head today. Punched in the face. Punched in the face, that's right.

2:06:39 Not one, not two, but ten times. Ah, I didn't even do my magic numbers. Geez. Can't believe I didn't do the magic numbers. The best one is one you sent me. Hold on. Where is it? I can't find my magic numbers. Oh, here it is. Uh... 33 simple sex tips to turn her on. Oh yeah, we have to go over this in the next show because some of these are just... and the funny thing is the comments that people left are even funnier than these idiotic sex tips from Men's Health which has got to be one of the worst magazines ever. Yep. 33 simple sex tips to turn her on. You know it's good when it's 33. Yeah.

2:07:32 So we'll discuss that on Sunday when we'll have another show. Coming to you from Gitmo Nation West here, the People's Republic of Southern California, where it's nice and sunny. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where I have the radio green screen a-workin'. And by the way, go to Dvorak.org slash NA. I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll talk to you again on Sunday for early morning service right here on No Agenda. Dvorak.org slash NA.