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00:00 Let me stroke my white pussy for a moment. Adam Curry, John C. DeVore. It's Thursday December 16th 2010 time for your Gitmo Nation Media assassination episode 261 This is no agenda Finding the foots in a sea of disinformation from the hilltop watchtower, crackpot command center, Gimel Nation West and the People's Republic of Southern California. In The Morning I am the former Soviet spy known as Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where the sun is shining while the rest of the country bathes in snow...I'm John C. DeVorek It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! In The Mornin' And in the morning to you my friend John

00:46 In the morning to you Adam and to all ships at sea. And to the boots on the ground and the wings in the skies they are plenty, and they are tuned in listening and of course our human resources in the chat room but no agendachat.net all charged up and ready to go The way your government loves you that's the way it's wanted its needed So we have our first victim of see something say something Oh really? We have a big... I'm gonna try. You're kidding me, this can't be true! I'm gonna blog this probably should've blogged it couple days ago happened two days ago in Long Beach some guy is in his backyard fiddling with his

01:32 You know the nozzles that you can buy for your hose, the gun nozzle. You squeeze it and it shoots stuff out? Yeah! It's called a spray nozzle. Spray nozzle... The guy is dicking around with his spray nozzle One of his neighbors calls the cops saying this guy in the backyard playing with a gun Oh, of course! The cops come over and surround the place and just unceremoniously kill the guy No! Yeah I didn't see any of this reporting. Oh, of course not! Why would you do that? Why would you see anything? It's not... Wait they killed the guy?! They just shot him without even saying anything. Oh No Yeah and people out there looking up Long Beach California man-shot in backyard. Who knows by the police but and of course Long Beach has got a bad reputation anyway for its miserable Police Department And of course what's gonna happen The family is gonna sue for wrongful death

02:29 the uh... long beach a city will pay you know ten million dollars or something come right out of the taxpayers coffers exactly nobody exactly they'll be like it and micky uh... can you know but what was brain also for the point i make it in nobody gets fired now the cops go on probation is something that has some bogus who was holding a gun we thought nobody gets fire nothing happens to taxpayers are out ten million dollars and we go and we're going to the next episode of stupidity uh... ended and of course this The neighbor of course is at fault as much as the cops. Yeah, because this is the whole rat on your neighbor thing and everyone starts freaking out and starts calling everybody about everyone being a terrorist!

03:11 yeah exactly so janet i'm sorry lucy napolitano which is not to be changed her name uh... if anything just a bit of pisser off well she looks more like lucy looks like it was a great she looks like a loose so losing the politano was on our national treasure on npr and uh... in pia did a little nice little dvd when we can play some of that because uh... it's amazing to hear the human resources of these get no nation states talking about the see something say something campaign and how incredibly great they think it is but what oh yeah of course why would anybody think this is great? This is like Cuba in the 60's. Well that does come up in the piece

03:54 And that's when Lucy just goes into, she starts laughing and it's just hilarious. The NPR montage of the slaves on the streets is very interesting because you do hear some people say like well you know why would I want to ask a Walmart employee you know to help me but let's listen to a little bit of this. I just found it very curious and then in a real piece of propaganda really from NPR For the last few years, commuters in cities like New York and Washington DC could count on hearing this message ring out in the subway tunnels.

04:36 You heard right. That's the voice of Janet Napolitano, Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security telling people if you see something say something. But before we even go further John I mean if and you've worked in media I've worked in media were still kind of in some form with media Is Janet Napolitano, is she really the right person to communicate? Does she have the right voice to communicate such an important message or should they have some kind of professional voice over artist. Or is this a egotistical thing? Before you finish your clip now this is going to be different we're gonna have a clip interrupting a clip

05:17 Before you finish your clip. Oh boy, this is hot play Play the Napolitano on Napolitano clip because judge Napolitano who's no relation Yes He says that that this woman is a well just play that clip I think it's important but to see her face reminds me of Emanuel Goldstein, big brother in 1984. In inter-novel but you saw his face everywhere so she's saying if you see something say something tell us whatever you see You know what will come next? They will make it a crime if we see something and don't say something And then we are East Germany and North Korea

05:56 Well on that happy note, Merry Christmas! Ho ho ho! Was he on Beck's program? Yeah. He was on Beck's program. This is Beck running interference. This is Beck trying to protect his own turf by the way. There's that and also Beck trying to protect that line of thought because Fox has two lines of thoughts that are contradicting each other we pointed this out a million times and the Napolitano-Beck line of thought, which is that this is all bad. Yeah Is one line of thought and the other one says well you know we gotta save the country And Assange is a bad guy too. Let's finish this off! Your clip interrupted the clip and this has clipped us, interrupted us... And starting this week The anti-terrorism public awareness campaign is expanding in a big way to your local checkout line If you see something suspicious In the parking lot or in the store Say something immediately

06:52 Customers in more than 500 Walmart stores across the country will see Napolitano in this video. Report suspicious activity to your local police or sheriff if you need help ask a Walmart manager for assistance This comes just as the Department of Homeland Security is looking to drop the color-coded terror alert system This is also something weird that I've been hearing Going around yeah, we're gonna stop the the color-coded system. I just keep it at a permanent spiked red. I guess no orange Oh, is that what it is? Permanent orange. Yeah they had a did this been printed as a poster in orange I know It's non-movable. It's not movable. It's just orange point well okay someone finally caught on we'll see if they actually do that and after air travelers cried foul over new airport patdown procedures I'm crying foul John have you cried foul oh foul foul foul

07:49 2.5 into penalty box you're fine and PR oh yeah of course foul I think we called a little more than foul okay called foul body scanners and as the head of the Justice Department Eric Holder defends undercover stings that in one case involved a man flagged over a Facebook posting So today's cover story our role and our security. Yes, we'll start with Walmart Okay shoppers at one store outside Nashville told our producer I noticed a little laugh in her voice didn't you? One guy is over at Walmart

08:27 You know what I'm saying. And we went to Nashville, that's where the stupidest slaves are! Tim Greene what they think about the Homeland Security messages echoing over the aisles? What do i think about it? We oughta be 24-7 365 aware of whats going on around us. That's kinda wild right there. I think thats a little unnecessary. Do you hear how they've mixed it all together this is like a mega mash now so their not just taking little bits and pieces and when it flows...and I won't interrupt it's really a mess with your brain. For shoppers in Walmart? Yeah, especially in small cities like Nashville I mean... I don't think someone like that would be shopping at Walmart It doesn't make me feel really happy to walk around that and then think oh gosh! I even need to look over my shoulder while grocery shopping. I guess it doesn't hurt you know what I don't see the bad in this I guess What do you think suspicious means in this case if you saw something what would you think of as suspicious and would you report it

09:21 I guess that's a matter of opinion, you know what I mean? No. What would I consider to be suspicious? 9-1-1 is going to get overloaded now. People in one area lingering around behind the stores... Wow! It's amazing isn't it? This is unbelievable whoever the audio editor is he has really come up with this new idea. It sounds like a conversation Yes and he's mixing back and forth He's going from one back it just took some work actually this time we'll get definitely to work as keep going picking out goods too the purchase but probably would report something that then i'm probably don't trust the people here that i would reported to you and i think they would carry their way so do you think there's any danger that people might uh... sort of profile there are other people timeshare an absolutely certain or if he had any had at the profile of i'm sure because fits

10:16 unbelievable and this is bonuses audio and for who this is so there's an opportunity that happens you see the way people again certain people in a dress to me as awesome humor address address of people every country and he can look at him funny good grief wal-mart usually a person wal-mart is on a mission to buy something but not blow it up I don't think and if that's what their purpose is, uh... i don't know they have clues that they're going hit walmart next. I don't know the voices of Walmart shoppers outside Nashville okay okay wait a minute hold on say first of all

10:52 I to anybody out there who and i would challenge anybody out there was a journalist professor anything else. I think this is an ethically deplorable approach to clips agreed absolutely agree it is a complete distortion of the facts that they gathered on the ground right unless those people are all standing next to each other actually having conversation conversation yeah which they weren't because Because they were stepping it was just what this is not what it was good. What was going on? It was a deplorable ethical breach By NPR to put that clip together that way I totally agree unless you know unless they come and say here We got a piece of propaganda here we want to play for ya well, and play it well. Well. I think that what happened is like Hello, we'd like Lucy to come on the show

11:40 Don't worry, we'll do a good job. We'll make sure we set it up properly for her because of course Lucy comes on the show. I talked with Secretary Napolitano this week and asked her why Walmart? Now something you said to me the other day off-air John is obviously neither you or i have an issue with sexuality as far as I know I certainly don't But you said, it's really interesting how Janet slash Lucinda Politano speaks in a lesbian milieu way which is through the teeth. And you said that I think was after the show and like what are you talking about? Then I started paying attention

12:26 and this is indeed, you know well you have sometimes very outrageous male gay behavior. Oh girlfriend! Honey! Whatever... We have one of those clips coming up later Okay so but listen to Napolitano I mean it's really it's like she was talking along with us on her tourism It's almost like annoying A number of venues its Walmart, its Mall of America Its different sports and sporting arenas, its transit systems As the slogan says, if you see something say something. I was just slow going said if you see something say something well Yeah, you twist it a little bit toward the upper crust You know New England foppish Preppy but it's actually there's some more subtle than that and and it's pretty straightforward But it's a little talking between the teeth. It's just subtle yeah, you can Jodie Foster does it? Hunter I think has it didn't that and there's a if you listen to most of the women

13:23 that are outed lesbians with the exception of professional voices like Ellen DeGeneres which I never noticed that with her. No, but generally speaking you'll hear that and it's only i think as a subgroup but yeah well I mean I don't think there is any question Janet Napolitano was a lesbian. But it doesn't pertain to the story at all? This isn't audio right now listening to him like wow she does have a very weird way of speaking and she is the spokesperson for see something say something. What are you hoping to accomplish with this expansion? Is it fear, shut up slaves! Getting more tips specifically or general awareness both not only tips but general awareness people being what we call situationally aware but time and time again we have seen that even suspected terrorist plots have been foiled by alert

14:17 citizens uh... who report something that really seems out of the ordinary you know and i just i hope inserted right now the reason the real reason why the this see something say something has been started now is doing to you look at you and look at your peers, look at your neighbors that's what this is about complete distraction. Now this program isn't new I know i've heard your voice a number of times

15:01 Wow, John. Well, part of it is tips but part of it is just having people be aware. There was a recent study that said that 80% of the FOIL terrorist plots in the last I think five years have been the results of citizen tips or citizen information Can you give an example of that? Well, I can give several one of the most graphic of course... What the hell is this don't tell me this my system gone wacky again

15:47 You hear that? Do you hear it like... It's new cables. Let me just, let me just see. Hello and welcome to Inside Le- Frig me! It's that thing again Yeah, you need some cables. You have a cabling issue. You gotta get some new cables No its not a cabling issue Well you said you fixed it last time by wiggling something No no no but its like ummm hold on a second lemme try this Its really weird cause I started everything up fresh this morning as I do And it should work perfectly, let me see. It's the Times Square. Damn! This is odd... Yeah hold on a second it'll just be worth it just to start it up well we can I we can go over the executive producers if you want but I'm getting into like the punchline here oh this is the worst part yeah oh yeah and hold on a second that will actually probably even edit this out for once how annoying is that? That's actually kind of interesting

16:47 I'm sorry? It's not uninteresting to watch you struggle with your... what machine are you running again? You're running a what? It's the Macintosh, I tell ya! Oh, a Macintosh. It's the Macintosh. Okay hold on let me just restart this and it's really very interesting why that's happening. Let's reboot the whole thing. No I don't- Sure sounds like a wire though doesn't it? No, well it's a virtual wire in essence. Well maybe your virtual wire needs to be fixed! Right that's exactly... Some new virtual wires That's exactly what I'm doing is setting up the virtual wire. I've got a bad connection on this virtual wire It's your cold solder joint It's unfair because i get up extra early just to set up all of the routing and everything To make sure it all works And then you know it works fine for weeks and then all sudden you get this

17:42 Hold on a second. It's almost it's almost restarted, but you already have to restart I'm just curious okay so I have to restart the Virtual router that's really that's really somewhere the problem how can you be on the air doing all this? Oh well? I set up a Fail-safe system so that at least we can be on the air when this happens That that's good right Yeah! The only thing is you can't play any clips and so that's... Our show has become dependent on clips. I think this is something we need to discuss We clearly have an agenda. I was looking at my clip collection because I'm putting together, I'm gonna kind of tease it in advance because it's going to take me months and months to do this. Please

18:30 Don't threaten, okay? Stop threatening with stuff you're gonna do. I'm putting together a two-hour clip show John! You promised this last December It's taking me...I'm still working on it It's not easy These clips are very long Alright, uh..I think we can go back to Lucy I think we're ready now Let's have a listen Okay A bomber where you had A street vendor noticed a vehicle parked with smoke coming out of it and immediately reported that to New York City policeman. We went from that cold report to apprehending Faisal Shahzad within 53 hours." Remember that whole false flag thing they set up at Times Square? That's what she's outtouting. That's what she should say! In fact, it took us a lot longer than we planned. It reminds me of the kind of citizen surveillance system in East Germany I mean... I love the laughing and then... What is she laughing about constantly?! Well, I have the feeling that they had a pre-interview

19:29 And because she keeps laughing and she's like, well maybe Lucy is a laugh riot in private. Well Lucy is about to laugh too! And the whole front thing is that it sounds like East Germany. I can just see the meeting before like, okay listen um i think you should bring up the East German thing. Oh yes that'd be very funny! Okay here we go... There was smoke coming out of it and immediately reported that to a New York City policeman and we went from that cold report to apprehending Faisal Shahzad within 53 hours It reminds me of the kind of citizen surveillance system in East Germany. I mean, essentially you're asking people to keep an eye on each other? I think that's a little extreme but what we're asking is to do what citizens in this country have been asked to do a lot of different times. Is rat on your neighbors! Which is...to be aware, to report things that seem awry

20:27 out of the ordinary report them to appropriate security forces. John, you've been around in this nation longer than I have is this something that you've been doing ever since your childhood? Is this what citizens have always done? Thinking on the neighbor? Yeah, I just want a check, just wanna make sure because Lucy says so. She doesn't know what she's talking about. The thing she mentioned by way...I got a kick out of it when she mentioned East Germany which is what the judge Napolitano mentioned and it's been this laughing thing i want to talk about that after the court or law enforcement at the same time in your also putting that definition in the hands of everyone as well i mean a definition of what suspicious what side of the ordinary amino dot a lot of communities that can be different things and we do you know bad-law enforcement who are trained and we have been

21:14 doing this program in pilot phases since 9-11. It's worked very, very well and so some of the things you're pointing out now really haven't been issues or problems." And what education will there be around what people should look for? It is it is the unattended package. It's... Ew! John my package! It's a car with smoke coming out of it. Oh no! car was smoke coming out of it left unattended all we're asking that be done is to report to security I see a package personnel to law enforcement let them do the follow-up and lastly America I have to ask you if is there anything a little bit strange or big brotherish in seeing your own image Oh John she

22:00 you can also get your t two if you have a no-hunter but listen she's like this is this is the ego question this is a bit as it's kind of strange don't you like love it when you see yourself and you know what you being the big sister involved all things security or big brother issue in seeing your own image adhering to our own voice everywhere issuing these warnings with well shit Let me stroke my white pussy for a moment. Brotherish and seeing your own image and hearing your own voice everywhere issuing these warnings But all I would say is look I will say this look look slaves But all I would say is look

22:58 This is very straightforward, easy to remember and we rely on the common sense of judgment and the community involvement of the American people. Alright enough with that! You heard it though you heard it she's evil I mean come on that's not even funny anymore the way she laughed. Mwahahahaha! I am everywhere! It's about right. By the way, the bull crap about the Times Square bombers that guy had done his job rightly with it of course there was a false flag so it wasn't gonna happen but let's say it was a real terrorist and in a real situation the guy had blown up that car what's that got to do with anything because they caught the guy after whatever he was going to do was done when they caught him they didn't catch him beforehand so what is the problem? No no! He was on an airplane

23:47 all they've been with the airplane fifty two hours after that what would have been a huge bomber what didn't blow up because it didn't work yeah and we got to make it do that I had the card the car was intact I mean you should flip that out just use it occasion after occasionally its gonna be my ringtone yeah actually pretty close tour haha I am everywhere. Why is that girl laughing constantly? Because she gets to follow up. And lastly, um...I have to ask you, is there anything a little bit strange or big brother-ish in seeing your own image and hearing your own voice everywhere issuing these warnings? Well it wasn't a whoop! I wouldn't look at it though

24:45 I wouldn't look at a... Look at me, slave. I think we got enough out of that. Hey! Why don't we thank some people who make this fine program possible? Does anyone still listen or are we all too late? They're probably gonna turn us in. Are we on the tape? Probably. Not pretty suspicious about these two guys. Probably?! What do you mean probably? It's like they're dialing now it's like hey man these two guys are laughing at Janet Lucy whatever Oh my goodness. Wow, wow, wow! So we got one executive producer and two associate executive producers for this show. Nice nice nice. Our executive producer is Will Lysak from Happy Valley Oregon he had to send in his pronunciation because I don't know anyone in... Norma? I don't know but his name is spelled l-i-s-a-c which you'd think would be Lysak or Lysack what is it

25:44 It's Lysic. Lysic, okay well whatever that's fine I mean it's fine with me but he did have to explain it seems to be uh this is unusual and he must be throughout his life must have his name mispronounced more than me yeah This is our first installment of 3333 for one of our donated knighthoods we'll donate a knighthood in the name of a lucky random producer coin holder for every $1 000 from the sales get Monation Challenge coins at noagendachallengecoin.com which is another challenge coin. We're gonna have two or three people making these things now. And by the way, we are no longer... Actually Eric the shill has gotten all the coins from Paul Couture that he never shipped and they were going to make some more coins. Adam and I are taking out of our funds. We are spending the money and we have to cough up a little more for something international. Let me say that all said and done

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29:05 so he's telling all the people out there, there is another jingle we need. Michael Hager in St Louis Missouri $200 really love the show nobody but does a better job of getting the truth out and those are our executive producers for todays show well I we certainly do our best and i would like to Mention a couple of PR initiatives the shill Eric the shill amongst all of the coin shipping. He's been doing he is also totally revamped no agenda nation comm Which have you seen this thing John? Yeah, it's pretty good It's I mean he's a map nut why but why even and why do we even bother doing any site? They mean this This is what No Agenda show should be it almost looks like I mean he's got he's got the episodes there He's got the donation stuff. I mean, it's good well

29:53 We should be linking to it. Well, we're definitely going to link to it anyway... Yeah go check out Noah Jenner and the National Academy. His long-term scheme which he wants us to mention eventually is is to get anyone who's a big donor, the Knights especially. They can have their businesses listed along with their location and all the rest of it so no agenda...so that fan base around the world can you know if your happen to be in St Louis go to that bar or Indianapolis Right right! So our community is also tangible and you can reach out so we saw people can go in your hand and say hi to another night for example i think we have to do it on the same before everybody but they all the nights in particular as we have over a hundred ken uh... you know at least

30:41 Say hi to good. It's a good idea and you know when the caca hits the fan it may be even better print out those maps by The way because if we have no internet You'll want to know where everybody won't have any print out stuff once in a while not from time to night all right a shout-out to sir Larry Lee who had his X radio taken off the air by the federal yeah Which she finally cracked down on? on his radio station there. And where was he again? He was in some interesting place I thought it was in Texas or Wisconsin. I think its Texas Well anyway, um... I guess he had some harmonic frequencies that transmitted well he says is bull crap and I... No no! He sent off an email this morning sometime during the day on Monday the 13th the inline harmonic frequency filters failed hate when that happens

31:36 At that point, harmonic frequencies were transmitted. That included the aviation spectrum of pilots somewhere reported spurious transmissions to air traffic control. The incident was reported to the FCC." Of course he didn't mean to do that but anyway... He was operating kind of some heated up stuff anyway so... I asked him whether he's going try and get a low frequency license or a low power license and he said he is gonna try but apparently they haven't been issuing them much as promised uh... then we have a the uh... new network to know what gender newsnetwork dot com no agenda news network dot com which uh... is that yet another site filled with the news and uh... with some advertising that perhaps uh... will help show in the future were not quite sure uh... but appreciate the at the p r initiative and then the one that i'm quite excited about is there are no agenda novels dot com as um... one of our own

32:32 uh... one of our producer scott mckenzie and i had mentioned this before wrote a book titled one day in get no nation and uh... it is now available for purchase that isn't is uh... but i'd like to know those are very good novel i've read it uh... in the peat in pdf form and now he has a book with the with the soft cover and uh... he says he will be sending some of that to us whether he does that or not i think it's a funny book i like the fact that we get credit on the back show gets credit and uh... you know that it's did you read this books like your you're reading and no agenda show is funny k even though it's not meant to be funny its it's for you really like oh my god is great so as government can do in the region and almost dot com and of course we want to thank

33:21 Our producers for keeping us on the air Dvorak org slash na is the only way that That we can keep the program running and we need a little bit of extra help now for the holidays particularly because the Anonymous attacks on PayPal slowed us down, and we had all these extra expenditures at the end of the year It's kind of like we had to put you know tiny Tim had to have an operation he did So that so we wouldn't we would not cry if you know it is tiny Tim. Yeah, very descriptive Will Lysak our executive producer of episode 261 along with associate executive producers John Smith and Michael Hager You can put this on your resume It's a real credit unlike the douchebags in Hollywood will vouch for him everybody else out there Please go out help us by propagating the formula Our formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth

34:26 I gotta clip that out, that Napolitano laugh. It's funny! Did you hear the... uh.. I played a song this morning- I just got to play this for because it's very short. I guess it was from some TV show that well I'll just play it for you Slaves built the pyramids, slaves built the Parthenon. Slaves built America, slaves this is your song thank you. Yeah I heard that this morning who is it?

35:07 It's some kind of like TV show That doesn't exist anymore. I went off the air, but they did stuff like this it's kind of like a Sesame Street on acid I'll have to find out. Well, you know it reminds me of a show that they took off the air years ago which was done by Jim Henson when he was still alive i think and what was it called? It was called Dinosaurs. And it was only on for like three seasons. It was on obscure stations. It was syndicated. And there were these guys in these huge dinosaur costumes

35:49 And all the material was Gitmo Nation type of material. And Jim Henson did that, huh? Yeah it's a great kid show. It was designed as a kids' show and that where the line I'm the baby you gotta love me came from and some of these other little one-liners have floated around on the internet but if anyone wants to go rent something hilarious because of its Gitmo Nation nature You know there's like a big brother on the TV all the time, the news guys come on and say this is our you know the phone, this is the news that we're told to give you and all of these kind of things. It's very subversive actually for a show for kids. Yeah, yeah, the chat room going nuts they'll remember it and they are like hey that was awesome I think we should start with just a quick update John on the two-to-the head We don't play The Jingle but we do not have too because of course I had a thesis

36:40 uh... on the last program about mark made off which by the way i i'd i'd i've read it by some a lawyer like a huge extremely wealthy get my nation entertainment lawyer and he was immediately i have right on uh... mark made of course uh... you know he apparently committed suicide and uh... another is now they did secretly burned him Right, well you immediately said watch for the cremation. And by the way I believe that the Jewish tradition is not to burn bodies. Right it's Jewish! You don't cremate... That's a joke of it because we got a lot of email everybody in the world wrote us and twittered us oh you called it you call it you called

37:22 But you know the thing is but we still there's still some breakdown that we need to do because I came up with a couple more thoughts on this let me give You one extra one that. I forgot on the last show Is that his wife and she was in she was at Disneyland with their other child? She actually legally changed her name from Madoff to Morgan right a year ago Which of course is what you need to do, I mean you gotta do it way in advance. It means your scheme Of course it doesn't just happen and end the His father-in-law, which is his wife's stepfather. This guy I mean he is connected to so much Gitmo Nation stuff...I got some links in the show notes you can just go take a look at it that he was completely complicit and he's a part of the deal no doubt about it. I would assume there are a lot people part of the deal but I was thinking about a couple things that were anomalies that also fit into this puzzle

38:16 One is that you have to remember that Bernie Madoff was one of the, uh... he, one of the people he invented or one of the groups invested for was The Russian Mob. This came out early in the discussion and they always say oh the Russian mob's gonna kill him now but we don't know that The Russian Mob didn't get their money back and he was tight- We don't know that he wasn't working with The Russian Mob just, ya'know, the money wasn't going partly to them because what we knew some it was going to Israel so he was involved with a mobbed up group, the Russian one of the nastiest there is and with connections everywhere. And they could have been responsible for setting up the whole scheme A and it's also Israeli intelligence which he is supposedly involved with which was also a group that could set this kind of thing up easily so I mean it wasn't you know it wasn't an impossibility I was looking at the Yahoo story comments

39:08 Because sometimes in the comments, especially on today's internet you get a lot of people who have insight or comments that are like oh this is a good idea. And there was two or three people that picked up on these he's not dead uh... thing and then one guy went on and on about how he's now been having a meeting with their can lay but anyway he uh... it didn't get whose changes name to morgan lee canners as i forgot you got some some information in there that may or may not be true but he had also says they made office probably israel's s sorting out the bank accounts as we speak did the the kid

39:49 But when somebody pointed out that funeral home where he was cremated, I looked it up and tried to find something in the background that was sketchy. And somebody did have something... Was this the same funeral home that took the dead comic? That was supposed to announce a funeral for him and then they haven't done anything in four months. I don't know anything about them. Well so but I think there's probably connection between the funeral home and some past other weirdness that because these guys have to be reliable. Just go look at any mob-based movie, they're always in the funeral home! That's where they have their meetings yeah I was in the back around standing around some body having a meeting and what's so funny about this particular thing nobody in the mainstream media of course ever would bring such a crazy idea up no and and affected the public doesn't bring it up is actually more surprising

40:39 because there are so many movies, TV plots you know I mean you have seen this phony the movie Sherlock Holmes film is one of these. So here's a crazy thing at Mickey's Big Expo which was Sunday the art club in Los Angeles with huge success by the way she had a lot of art buyers And this one guy, I get called over by his wife. I had not met him he's a very high-powered lawyer in Los Angeles that was why he was there like we'll sell those guys some art and He says hey, um I hear you don't like the scanners. Oh, oh, I'm being set up here say well You know I said well, you know I

41:25 So I start... You had the talking points memo in your head, I hope. I had the talking points right? And I lay in about dosimeters he says well you know I can actually think I can probably prove to you that these are safe and like wow this is going the wrong direction and said um really He says yeah because I represent RapaScan and we say actually represented them in a one hundred and twenty nine million dollar lawsuit against L3 Communications And so now I'm like, oh really? That's quite interesting. Why don't you tell me? You okay Yeah. I sound like you fell over? No, the thing fell off the shelf and so apparently remember what I tracked down those patents so they together they bought that company that had the patent for Backscatter yeah and they had divided up the market but then L3 decided to just ignore the agreement they had and so then RapaScan sued them for 129 million dollars and won

42:23 And I'm like, wow this is pretty interesting. And then I started the Michael Chertoff thing and he said yeah you know who the CEO is? Yeah so I know he's the guy Deepak Chopra but not the Deepak Chopra healing guy but he's the guy that went to India with Obama and now I got some credibility now I gotta get the guy out of whatever he's talking about because I gotta sell him some art. I don't want to argue about these scanners if they're good or not Then I said hey, let me tell you something else man that mark made off. He didn't commit no suicide He's sitting there laughing in Paraguay right now and the guy looks at me straight in the face says You're absolutely right? I'm like wow Is it your absolutely right Mike okay so these guys know

43:08 that uh... that stepfather by the way the his is father-in-law london is named he represented spiro agnew when they face criminal charges while in and then good one m a attorney for jackie onassis which had to restrain their crazy photographer uh... guys been around has been around has been around spin around anyway so yeah it's uh... No one does that kind of analysis, you're absolutely right. No one does it and it doesn't really matter other than that I look at some of the comments like oh so sad for him and his family they are laughing at you They are laughing at you in Paraguay And she's probably already down there now Oh watch this! I want to be left alone and I need to go on a vacation with South America with my children we have to collect our thoughts

44:03 They're gonna collect the cash is what they do. That's right, the idea that he's in Israel right now sorting out the bank account so I can tap some of that money over to their Paraguay. It will be but you know Paraguay is the target for these guys yeah that's where Bush has the ranch and everything yeah because there's a big aquifer. So they're messing with our stream today John? I mean I'm not even telling you about it I mean like there's nothing I can do... Well am I coming through No, no we're fine and the recording is fine but they're messing with our stream. Everyone has problems with a stream I've restarted the server four times. Oh the stream? Yeah, I've restarted the server five times it's uh yeah obviously we're getting good and there's a lot of stuff that's happening um with the internets in general which is very very interesting. Now I'm really getting some inside dirt from people

45:01 Um... Well this Internet's got to be stopped. Well it has to be stopped and but you know this is happening at a DNS but also at a BGP level I got a note from well anonymous obviously although i know who my sources are that Level 3, Level three they're probably the largest tier one backbone provider certainly in the United States but they do a lot in Gitmo Nation United States of Europe that they have been broadcasting some false routes to network segments

45:39 At least, one thing I know is they were hosting some WikiLeaks sites. But who knows? And when you're doing border gateway protocol and a little bit about it You know stuff is copied and propagated And if you actually want to change the route you have to go in, you have to do it manually It's very hard to track down and lot of tracing has to happen but level 3 which by the way is headquartered in Colorado that will give any idea I don't trust these guys and I think that what we're seeing is... The thing with level 3, who was suing them? Comcast? No. That was Comcast and Netflix. That's different but Level Three was in the middle of that because they passed off the transit. Yeah, Level Three did deal with Netflix Right And then they sued Comcast for... But that's about peering but this is actual announcing faulty routes so you can't get to a site

46:35 It or you can get to it, but then it really slows it down because you get routed around stuff. I mean BGP is Amazing stuff and that's what the true network engineers really understand that you know they're geniuses well there's a Another thing going well go ahead. Well, so I was just saying that you know there's a lot of different things happening I also got information on the inside from PayPal because you know obviously we were hurt by The so-called DDoS attacks So what happened is it the?

47:11 The distributed denial of service attacks did not necessarily slow down PayPal servers, but what PayPal did is they started denying access from network segments that were doing that. So they were literally shutting off entire network segments so people couldn't even get to us even if they wanted to! Because PayPal just turned it off. Just denied the entire network segment, so if you had someone who was Part of an attack and by the way I have a hard time believing that it was you know that It's one a group of anonymous people. I think this bot networks that are set up by Russians get There's a whole bunch of shit going on we don't know about it's too easy to say oh yeah It's these two 4chan people now You know yeah for Chan has its power But there's something else going on here

47:57 And so what happens is you get someone in a network segment like Time Warner Cable in Los Angeles and they start throwing packets at PayPal. And PayPal says, well shit we'll just turn that whole network segment off and we'll deal with it later but that means no one... Someone in that network segment could not reach us could not reach PayPal to support the show So, there's a lot of stuff going on and it is all at the router level. And this is where I make my plea to the sysadmins of the world Do what you have too but make sure that you route us through Whatever you do help us

48:39 Because you are the only ones in the last men standing. Tell me, Owan Kenobi! The network admins and the sysadmins You're my only hope It's really bad And now it's crazy Now we've got all these new leaking sites coming out We've got Indoleaks This looks like a smoke screen of approach Brussels leaks Balkan leaks Have so many ideas that overwhelms us with leaked sites So they are all marginalized So I did something and this is really the only real big thing that i did. So there was a forum on C-SPAN, and I watched the entire thing and pulled a couple of clips Have you ever heard about the Schieffer School of Journalism John?

49:36 Is that something Bob Schieffer set up at some college? Yeah, Bob Schieffer has the Schieffer School of Journalism. By the way this is a big trend nowadays there's a new thing opening up I'd love to get it positioned in one of the colleges and universities with this title which is professor practice and then there's a lot of entrepreneur in residence professor practice release like guys who actually did something for a living and now they're teaching about it at or or coordinating uh... the department right hand that is a good day for it lattice that you had paid for it yet health insurance haha and i use lulu and uh... these are cropping up everywhere because the university system is turning very mercantile

50:21 and uh... so i wouldn't do so bob shimmy racy a lot of this is the you know the uh... did we have all the rivera department journalism in atlanta versus south texas alia what they will this is actually it's teased pcu there you go to x christian texas christian university so that you had the bobshe for school of journalism and uh... bob on this of forum has a woman from the new york time from the uh... karen karen de young from the washington post he has um... scott shane from the new york times which is but it's just amazing and uh... they're talking about wiki leaks and also some guy from the government who i guess he was like that the token guy from the government had to had to be in there

51:08 And so I'm watching this and the whole thing is about WikiLeaks, is it journalism? But really what happens is Scott Shane from The New York Times starts explaining how it works. And though...I'll just say it up front WikiLeaks is not leaking documents to the public on the internet. They're just not and these people will confirm what I'm saying here they have an entire system agreements with The New York Times, with The Guardian, Le Monde, Les Pays Le Pays, Das Bild. They have they... That is Der Spiegel isn't it? I'm sorry Der Spiegel you're right they have all these agreements they were preset they have release schedules this is wikiLeaks is mainstream media! It is a mainstream media organization and you will hear these people actually say they don't even leak 2% of the documents to the public and by the way

52:02 they have uh... the ability to public relations better than most mainstream media outlets yes here's got a very hard to know your times in this stuff comes to you of what happened after that how did you make a decision for the editors at the time said to accept it and what did you do with it after you've got what happened between that time when we first began to see a show up in new york time okay so now he's so this is bob schiever as she be asked me and uh... so he's saying, they got the documents before wikiLeaks put them on the internet. They gave them to the New York Times with some caveats we'll get to that in a minute as you recall there were three sort of batches of documents that The Times got from WikiLeaks the first two directly because the founder of WikiLeaks Julian Assange apparently had taken offense at a profile that we published of him He didn't want to give us

52:57 uh... group of documents which were the state department cables uh... but i found that very interesting that uh... julian assange is going you're not getting that new york times because she was something nasty about me if it's not gonna pass old-fashioned isn't it well listen to this So what did he do with the Washington Post? They didn't get any documents from Wikileaks. Let me go now to Karen, now the post did not get any of these. Let me just ask you why? And listen to The Room laugh by the way. This is a room full of shills and journalists and why didn't you get it... What's wrong with you?! Why didn't you get it anytime...? They were giving it to everybody! Why didn't you get it!?

53:45 And what would you have done if you had gotten something? We, like the Times were told with the early releases. You know there was a release of Afghanistan documents and Iraq documents military documents earlier and we were told by WikiLeaks that they...we had published something about Julian Assange that they didn't feel was to their liking and we were told specifically that they were not going to deal with us. Well now, what is that about? What is wrong with this guy does he really want to get the word out or does he just... Is he more concerned about his image

54:28 Well, this is old-fashioned. Like I said this is the way it always used to be which indicates your thesis that its mainstream media in a different packaging. Yes. Old wine same new label old wine whatever that all saying is I can't remember but anyway say hello to the new boss same as the old boss yeah this is like bogus that he would I mean what you shouldn't have any I mean, you either leak it or you don't. You know, say well you get it and you don't... He's playing favorites and all this sort of thing is kind of seems to be against what we're talking about here What we're envisioning as the WikiLeaks model seems to be violating with this kinda thing But if its all bogus It is totally bogus because they..what they are doing

55:17 and by the way just on Assange's side if they are arresting Julian Assange, they need to pick these guys up right away because he is just taking stolen documents and giving them to the New York Times before he is putting anything online. And The New York Times actually does the redacting with the State Department with the Pentagon and sends the documents back to WikiLeaks for them to then release online. Listen to- I think we've discussed this process on the show from the beginning But this is now, they're saying it! This is coming straight from the horse's mouth Well you know they were always saying if you went out and pieced together You could add two and two, you knew what was going on Was this a shock to you?

56:00 well here it is in uh... in a very simplified form simplified yes we've not done that here but one is uh... you know a flawed government employee who acted independently so this is the uh... this is the the government guy saying well you know this is a flawed employee that never should have happened and violation of his pledge and the government that engineered very poorly security system at the first second are these cyber anarchists that do not have a rationale other than just the capacity to create chaos. And then we have the story of responsible journalists struggling with information bridging across the two. To me, it's why I'm so worried about the collapse of professional journalism."

56:49 the collapse of professional journalism what he's really saying I'm so worried there are shills our government spokes all the rest the whole system that we had put in place that keeps this crap from happening so we could abuse the citizenry and tax them and screw with them is now falling apart what are we gonna do actually not true because they are completely playing together under the same hat because we've had the discipline of editorial restrict observation. Ooh, ooh! Did he say restriction? And did he correct himself?

57:27 Play it again. We've had the discipline of editorial restrict- I mean... Strict, uh... Hold on let me roll it back a little bit more here we go Because we've had the discipline of editorial restric- uh observation... Whoa! Editorial restriction? So he's a State Department guy? Oh yeah editorial restrain we're gonna stay on the air revealing these horrible facts people help us out so we can at least get some money out of this thing just so that we can maybe you know hey you're not following the guidelines restrict and restrict restrict journalism

58:07 because we've had the discipline of editorial observation that has given us a sense of what is and is not news. uh... what is it is not news of my dad even better we have a restrictive restriction observation what isn't he's not news by our spokesman says and by the way by the way that's why for some reason that this story in long beach where they got was gunned down his own backyard get his own property by the cops Because of this you'll say something to see something say something thing it was not reported anywhere except in a couple local papers That's not part of the Not part of the deal. It's not on the list. It's not it's not news Rush Limbaugh talked about this, but most but lot of people that worked in mainstream radio

58:54 talk about this one because the most is usually a clip job when they do in the news, they don't really have much of a news staff. But both radio and television and to large extent most of them newspapers, the cues all come from The New York Times They're the official conduit for what is news and what's not Totally And so you take it look at The New York Times Is it in The New York Times? No We are reporting that if its not in The New York Times we can go with it is a very common thing that was heard or is heard still heard around various newsrooms. It's like the New York Times calls the shots. Well let's just continue for a little bit and I'll get off of it but, it's important that people hear this from someone other than you and I. ...putting out for the world to see in what responsible journalists are struggling... Responsible journalists. To manage we may not like it frankly

59:45 I don't like anything about this, but I respect the fact that you've wrestled with it and you did a very responsible job within the boundaries of how you saw your duties. This is the State Department guy complimenting The New York Times and The Washington Post, complimenting them on doing such a responsible job? I really do respect that we're going to deeply regret losing that as being the foundation of journalism No kidding! And what's in front us is a world of these cyber anarchists What is ground truth in cyberspace now And that's a problem. What was that like? What is ground truth as in Ground Zero, ground truth in... Ground Truth! Ground Truth is what we say in cyberspace. Yeah it could be a meme could be the launch here let's continue The most interesting things to me um in this whole episode This is the New York Times guy Scott Chang and something that sometimes gotten lost

1:00:41 in the reporting. You often heard on the radio or TV, WikiLeaks, the organization that released 250 thousand secret diplomatic cables In a limited sense that's true they released them actually initially to a number of European publications I just want you all to understand what is going on Okay, the media is making it look like wiki leaks are these tremendously great guys But it's all just mainstream media and if the best way to get false information Into people's heads is to say was leaked This this is like the oldest tactic in the world as far as we know they got these you know Just I don't know. I don't have any inside knowledge but it appears They got them in May or June

1:01:28 they could have, you know if they were really living up to the cyber anarchist creed that everything should be public all the time. They could have in an instant dumped 250 thousand unredacted cables online which is the way it was kind of presented to us John wasn't it? I mean this is oh you got to get the torrent and all these cables... Well yeah but then once we deconstructed the fact that these are redacted and only being dribbled out it seems as though the general public still thinks that's what happened nobody's ever I mean i get the biggest kick out of your wall this is terrible meanwhile it really is that it's terrible these you these pundits ease you know the newt gingrichs in the world and you can say did you download the two hundred fifty thousand documents yourself do you know that they exist I mean the whole thing on they don't they don't just come up with all this is terrible you know the New York Times at his am not gonna play their clip

1:02:23 actually had enough time between when they received, they received all the documents. They set up a whole database Yeah, they set up a whole database of all the documents and then they started searching the database doing like you know searches for Afghanistan and yeah Hillary exactly. And so they've had this for months! WikiLeaks is not revolutionary? They're not... woohoo! And it would have been much more of a title way to... This guy's actually proud of it he's like hahaha yeah And by the way, people on the chat we have a very good streaming provider. We're being messed with okay? The net splits in the IRC channel you're being messed with! Okay stop with it...we pay a lot of money for the stream it's your money uh... that were getting messed with end of. Whether people would have really been able to make their way through it who knows but either because they felt burned over Afghanistan documents where they took a lot of heat

1:03:23 for failing to redact out some names of Afghan informants who were presumably put in danger. They retreated with the Iraq document dump, they actually ended up redacting with computers and stripping names out of them and the documents they put up were more severely redacted than the ones we put up Blown away blown away now the New York Times Received the documents they are actually that they determine what gets leaked on the internet and Bob Schrieffer Asks if there are any documents. They didn't put out there even government officials or military officials whose lives might be whose lives Or you know probably in most cases perhaps their freedom or their careers

1:04:09 or something would be in jeopardy. You know, in Russia and China and Libya and any number of other places if you spoke sort-of out of school to American diplomats you could get into trouble. Did you withhold any documents at the request of the State Department? We withheld a couple of documents that we... newswise they were certainly interesting We didn't post them at all because, you know there was a strong case that they would damage You know in the case of one that I'm thinking of American in a sensitive intelligence cooperation program involving another country. What?

1:04:54 The New York Times has something newsworthy they're withholding because the State Department asked them to and WikiLeaks did not put the document online because the New York Times said they shouldn't? What is this? That's it. You just summarized the whole issue. What is this Scott Shane, Is he a Soviet spy and one other small point is you know and this is a fairly extreme example obviously but I spent a few years living in the Soviet Union Oh okay! I just want to make sure of course listen to this guy And they used to have uh...an agency called Gloveliet which was essentially official censorship agency and they had a big thick book

1:05:35 everything that was banned and the guy is a Russian spy he learned in the Soviet Union where he lived and worked for the Ministry of Truth all right I'll wind it up with one final clip a question. What do you say about this big giant book? Finish it! Screw the book come on, I want to hear the rest of that clap really oh that's kind yeah they had this big giant book okay thick book of everything that was banned. And government had sort of the upper hand in that society, so you know the fisheries ministry put in there that dumping fish into the ocean waste

1:06:12 was state secret and pretty much everything got to be a state secret after awhile. So when you ask should the bureaucrat have the last word on what's classified or should a journalist, many people have asked why are journalists appointing themselves as the arbiter of what should be secret? Well, you know we are imperfect at it but so is the government and I think it's in this sort of interplay and this tension that exists in the way we run our society that generally we sorta muddle along. That's enough! We've heard enough So the only basically saying that you can forget about getting any kind of real information from today's media. Yeah, but you know how long has that been going on? so wait a minute...so here is the final clip and then I'm done with this and then uh... And i think I've made my point. So the final question which is a good one from the audience is hey did anyone like pay WikiLeaks for this information? Any of these pre-approved

1:07:11 Oh, we like you enough to give you some of the information but don't write nasty about Julian Assange otherwise it won't give you any more information. Did anyone pay for that? Three related questions one did any of the publications uh... a penny uh... which he thinks now listen to the fumble for any of that material secondly but it is this answer and i are there and is that true well you know uh... to my knowledge the answers no i have my knowledge the answers new to my knowledge don't think anyone's we've been dealing with how i don't think hey there was there was the wall street journal i believe reported today

1:07:51 were once offered a deal where if they broke an embargo on the documents, they would have to pay Wikileaks $100,000 and they refused to enter into it. It wasn't exactly an upfront payment but it was some kind of scheme where they'd pay if they published the documents before a particular date but that was never I don't think part of our deal... I don't think it was part of our deal! We had a deal He never said no, part of our deal Part of our deal But there was a deal. Yeah, of course there was a deal because no follow-up douchebag think part of our deal and so we've never entered into any kind of you know monetary agreement with WikiLeaks second right all right So there you have it minute so to summarize my friends and this goes for everybody who's interested in this wiki leaks

1:08:38 gives information to the mainstream media, the mainstream media goes to the government says hey how about this one no not that one. How about this one? Cross off those names okay then they publish it and you have to admit is kind of amusing that they clear... They said when Hillary came up yeah yeah you can go with that. Of course! Well yes Hillary go ahead now I will say one thing about redacting Redacting is actually worse than not redacting because it tells the person who was redacted play along slave or we're gonna reveal your name. It's much worse than redacting, it really is and it's a... No its much worse than non-redacting

1:09:17 Yeah, non-redacted. I'm sorry it's a form of blackmail over all of these people everyone is the whole thing may be A Blackmail scheme for all you know totally but whatever it is It's not the heroes of wiki leaks coming out and going yeah Look what we're doing because they're not they just not they're not dumping big documents They're not that she's not doing it They're not No And of course give it to The Guardian because they know they're gonna play it up Of course! The Guardian, they take everything so seriously. Well they're very important. Very important... Oh look at this, look at that We are so incredibly important I tell you That's who we are, we are the Guardian And remember the slaves? Tell everybody Listen to me Hatcher You gotta tell them Silent Breed is people

1:10:13 Did you finally watch the movie? Yeah, yeah a million people sent me the links. Of course I watched it It's great. This is one of the best movies ever. It's great Soylent Red and Soylent Blue and Soylent Green! And Soylent Green is so delicious. We have to get into our donation segment But I want to kick it off with something that was brought to our attention. I don't know if you actually really keyed into it John about Jimmy Wales And so Jimmy... He needs a shave, that's all I know. Well so Jimmy Wales is uh although they've spread it out a little bit you know he's out there going like, ohhh need some money for Wikipedia donate we have no agenda oh give us the money

1:11:00 Okay, well they have an agenda. Well of course they have an agenda but I would like to bring your attention to Jimmy Wales who is featured in an entire advertising campaign for Swiss watches Maurice Lacroix and uh... anyway it's okay if it's jimmy wales but he's using wikipedia in in his pitch and so you'll see yet some people call it impossible uh... jimmy whales called wiki pedia so the wiki pd is being used for commercial gain for jimmy wales that i don't get the guy can stand around say look at my i'm a fantastic guy on awesome go buy this watch you can do that

1:11:44 But when you are in the middle of a pitch for Wikipedia, for people to donate money and you're using the name Wikipedia in the SwissWatch commercial I think that's wrong. What do you think John? I don't really care Well but let me play the commercial This is really cool Here it is, Wikipedia Jimmy Wales. This is the Maurice Lacroix commercial Hi I'm Jimmy Wales founder of Wikipedia and ambassador for Maurice Lacroix He's an ambassador! He's an ambassador for Maurice Lacroix! I'm founder of Wikipedia and am ambassador

1:12:22 Authenticity to me means just being who you are. Yeah, it's like a money-grubbing whore! You know very simply... follow your convictions And now it's like the photo shoot and he is looking cool, man that is awesome. In the people who appear in the advertising because they've got to be people that have a depth of their personality They gotta have substance So for example someone like Jimmy Wales He has always stuck with his convictions and he is the man who he is today Because he has done that He is amazing I tell you! Jimmy Wales is fantastic therefore you must buy this watch

1:13:02 Now, who else in the money begging community do you think is also featured in these fine commercials? Bono. Close! Close close close! Very close I'll give you a point Here he comes ladies and gentlemen Stand by Who could it be? Who could it be? Hey! You know, I'm interested in whatever I become involved with. Like that's the truth but... And um you know they showed me the watches which I thought were beautiful and cool There ya go Sir Bob Geldof Of course Make so much sense Bob Geldof Sorry

1:13:46 I don't know who this guy is. You don't know Bob Geldof? No, i don't know Bob Geldof. Is the guy always sitting next to Bono at USA for Africa?! Oh that guy! Yeah that guy! Why'd they get Bono!? But Bono doesn't need the money... Bob and Jimmy need the money! Let me guess.... It's unbelievable and what are we doing- Well I got close didn't I when I hit the Bono guess? That's why I said you were amazingly close yeah so Jimmy Wales..you know what hey If I could get the Maurice Lacroix gig, I'd take it. Well then what are you complaining about? I don't have...I'm not getting it! Oh okay well I'm not getting either so let's thank some listeners Let's thank some people who are helping us with their own Swiss watch commercial So what we'll do is ummm.... I will give you the time 1024 a.m

1:14:41 So, we got a new listener. Our new donor $100 from London UK Pavel Abdulkin Might be Pavel don't you think? I knew a guy in the here named Pavel and he called himself Pavel Well i knew a girl named Pavel Well then yeah I don't know if this is a guy or girl She's a PhD student, whatever the case and Gitmo Nation East. Been a douchebag for about 20 episodes now but can no longer resist starting my knighthood layaway after you called the Queen of England evil. The following is long and potentially useless. Don't read out loud unless you feel it's any use. If you asked me, UK government realized a long time ago that does not have to spend taxpayers money on educating young slaves, the benefits society sure

1:15:30 But in the long run, no. In the short run all the research can be done by foreigners and pablo we got a jingoist here but that's okay he is good guy can't give you the exact ratios across country now by cambridge in oxford there's at least three fourth foreign phd students for one englishman by the way university california same ways most people from china per se oh yeah uh... and if any goes on and i well yeah you don't want to do it was just because did people get me you know they could start to rebel what's the problem did you see the riots in uh... in rome Yeah, that was fun. Well yeah it was unbelievable that Berlusconi got a vote of no confidence No he gotta vote of confidence They were voting on a vote of no confidence Right But he owns everything and everybody and is like nah its okay we love you He barely inched through then the public rioted It's like what? What? I love it Keep rioting slaves good job

1:16:31 It's the young people who have to do this by the way. We're too old for this. Yeah, no it always has been and always will be. It has to be! We're too old I mean... we can't do anything. We have houses, we got responsibilities.... I don't have any responsibilities You know? We have a few guns but you know we won't shoot them at anyone Noooo, not gonna shoot anybody And in fact might get shot in the backyard if even show the damn thing Listen, we have to watch C-SPAN The young children out there have to go out and protest and burn stuff Yeah, you know. That's the way it always is. Exactly. Luckily they're doing something because until the riots in London and like somebody said there I was watching another show on the BBC that said I didn't think these kids had it in them! Well that doesn't look like we have it here in the United States of Gitmo Nation No no, when we get to a segment coming up which on real news... You know why? It's part of his plan

1:17:23 that really sucks. That's a really interesting to do your machines falling apart like that I don't understand why though it you'll for you gonna have to figure it out Gil because that's no good Gil Foy in New Haven Connecticut 99 98 will my MacBook keyboard started have issues at Macintosh and then my disk my Dell disk failed well there's another PC, then my Lenovo PC. Instead of paying $99.98 for a new keyboard I decided to get some Karma. I can live without a shift key but not without Karma." Yeah well uh... i can't play you no karma right now because the karma bell is broken

1:17:59 Wow, okay Gil we're gonna get you karma when we can. We got no karma. Matthew Becker another new donor Endicott New York $75 on behalf of his brother Nick who introduced me to the show requesting Karma another one is planning to go back to school Nick needs Karma because he needs better his career. Just keep track of the names by the time were done with this segment I'll have Karma Eric will be doing that. I hope he's probably listening anymore. What's Eric gonna do? Well, I was hoping he'd do it so I don't have to... He'd do what?! Keep track of the names! Just remember three names John can you do that for a second? There are 40 people so far no Matthew Becker another new donor Endicott New York $75 Robert Pinder

1:18:51 Oh, by the way Becker that was in behalf of his brother Nick right I'm sorry behind you but you're confusing me. I am trying to read off this thing Robert Pinder Madison Virginia 6666 Edward Birth... Beardhausen! What does that mean? That must mean something No not really But he's from Amstel Fane where i lived Yeah doesn't Beardhausen mean beer house? No no I don't think so Okay, you two gave us double nickels on the dime. I'm sorry, i don't think it means beer house no That's what i would have guessed No, no, that was a good guess but uh... Keep it up guys! You two keep me sane during my daily commute

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1:20:31 Well there you have it. Yep, can I do the karma while we're at it? All right let's go back a couple and give a couple karmas out we got one for uh Bill Foyne You've Got Karma Right And we need Matthew Becker karma for his brother Nick You've Got Karma Okay good Good job Back to the 18 wheeler Good job He also wants to call out A douchebag. And who would that be? Well, it's a good question because I gotta refine this thing as I have to go back. Oh there it is, I'm way down too far. Mike Reed! He was my trainer when I started driving for Maverick Transportation and he got me into listening to the show but as of yet he has not donated! What a dick

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1:25:31 but probably actually that we did not see well on the this the past four shows have i'm sorry it been way down on donations yeah we've been down about ten k in the size of the uh... spreadsheet per show yeah and uh... but it should be re relaxed by now so indeed people i think the one one of our dad producers who said that these people spend you know they're buying gifts for their family were getting you know the short dash we get short she did Not an unusual part of that is the is the PayPal issue that they the people just couldn't get to this site That's part of it And it's just bit. It's just tiny Tim man would you we've been tiny Tim all right anyway? Well, whatever appreciate it Merry Christmas to y'all Happy Hanukkah happy Kwanzaa enjoy it all Kwanzaa Kwanzaa is important man

1:26:23 Alright, do we have a deal to close out the donation segment? I don't remember. Um No, we can always do that. I've been talking a lot this show so i'm gonna save my stuff for when you run out of things to say. Well, you're going to be screwed then because You just gonna go non-stop? No, I'm not gonna go non stop But I think we should do at least begin with a real news segment and and a pet peeve ish thing Okay We can do all that

1:27:04 And now, back to Real News. Real news everybody! So let's catch up with the extra thing so we at least know the basics Oh jeez I'm sorry... You're not paying attention? Tell those girls to get into their bedroom Hold on a second, I need to meld these two together because that'll sound really hot hold on a second and now back to real news It's the same! Extra! Extra! Ellen's new man. She is getting over Tiger with a hot new romance, so who is he? Breaking news! Oprah's mid-air scare in Sydney. Just as we are reaching the summit the helicopter runs out of gas New pics Sandra's weekend with baby Louie how they're spending their first Christmas as a family Nicole Richey's weekend wedding three different dresses The clue in the wedding cake The elephant

1:28:05 New video inside Elizabeth Edwards memorial. John Edwards wearing his wedding band, the secret Kate Edwards told her mother right before she died. Our Simon exclusive in London breaking giant news about his return to American TV. Only for Terry and Extra. Then Gwyneth's eating marathon to gain weight for he new role What did you eat or what did you get really addicted too? Plus, extra fun with the fuckers. He got the tongue Barbara. And she seemed startled every single time.

1:28:49 So what is the deal by the way with this? Oprah comes on, she's looking and besides crying... She's crying on her show with an interview with Barbara Walters. And then the helicopter ran out of gas just before we reached the summit! So you're watching this and she's like crying about the helicopter running out of gas When she reached the summit, so let's back it up and see what what summit okay? She's walking on a bridge Walking with a bunch of people to get to the top of the bridge span. There's like it's a looping thing right where this is in Australia Yeah, not strailing you had a bunch of letters from people saying she said You know just wasting everyone's time down there all right So she said that she had just before they got there was a helicopter I guess taking a movie or something did she wasn't in the helicopter What was she what would she sobbing about oh

1:29:38 She's sobbing about the fact that her whole network is going to fail. I think the whole thing is ridiculous. She needs attention because she's about to launch the OWN. Forget that part, what is all this public sobbing? We had John Boehner on 60 Minutes crying at the drop of a hat like a psycho! He always cries. Do you have a clip of him crying? No, I don't care. The guy's just in tears all the time! Well John if you were a little smart maybe you would understand that this is how people make tons of money we're not doing it the right way Yeah, we should be crying more! I need to sleep what am i gonna do? I need more money and people call me gay

1:30:30 So, let's listen to some... Now there is a new show. This is the reality segment. There is a new show and people should try to check this out. It is the worst thing! One of these... There is a producer in Hollywood who has been around forever and he does some of the most modern... Every time once in awhile I see one of his shows There's always little syndicated shows. This guy is named Byron Allen Oh gosh, that guy! That guy he was a black guy who always wanted to be Arsenio Hall He was on Channel 9 in New York or whatever...he liked it He's all over the place and produces stuff using modern techniques He had a talk show at one point even his own talk show That how it started but he wanted to be Arsenio And let's face it even Arsenio couldn't be Arsenio

1:31:13 Exactly. But whatever the case is, he's always experimenting So what he has done is created possibly the worst show in the history of television by deconstructing and then reconstructing The View! So he has taken characters from The View First it's called Gossip Queens and it actually includes a queen in terms of one gay guy who's ridiculously gay. Of course! And he is the Queen That is what we need on this show John, we need one of us to be gay. Then I'll be roo for it. I can't wait for this segment John

1:31:50 So anyway, so we got a black woman who makes all kinds of snide and dirty remarks. Big fat black woman she's one of the characters The dumb blonde who rarely says anything and she's very you know but but just kind of quiet But she's Wow I can play two roles She's the dumb blonde, which is... I can play the dumb blonde? Elizabeth Hasselbeck person. Then you have to get- Let me finish the deconstruction! Then the gay guy who is a little short Asian gay We can't just be gay he has gotta be Asian gay Oh shoot there it goes Whose voice is a woman so when you hear the clip You cant really tell when its him and then some burly kind of a Rosie O'Donnell type character who's either, you know I guess a pretend lesbian or something. And she talks with really deep voice. Does she talk to her teeth like Janet? No which makes me wonder but she just talks with a deep voice. What is this on what network does it... It's all over the place it's on NBC around here

1:32:45 This is like a real show, someone put real money into this. It's a Byron Allen syndicated show, it's syndicated I'm sure So these four people are on the outside you know black woman dumb blonde gay guy burly woman and then in the middle they bring the guests on and all the guests do every one of them it just brings up gossip Oh! You know what? Should I tell you something? That just hit me...I was asked to be on the pilot of this show Why?! Because they couldn't get anyone else to do it I guess. I said no but... You were gonna be on the pilot, what was your role? As a guest! To talk about.. okay well... Yeah i'm just hit, I have to find the email. I bet you can find the email. Can I play the clip while look for the email? Play, now you're going to play the clip which is let's see what is that called? Is it called Rumor Queen or Gossip Queen? It's called gossip

1:33:37 No, it's called Gossip Queens. I said Rumor Queens on the clip thing. Gossip Queens... alright can we roll this? Not to whoever... there are two of them be careful you don't roll second. This is the worst show in history! Yeah that's it play it! Oh my gosh, so I have the biggest scoop about Jersey Shore this summer while they were down in Miami filming the second season Snooki had so much to drink. She got taken to the hospital and had her stomach pumped for alcohol poisoning

1:34:16 That's amazing. Why am I listening to this again, John? The real news segment is leading up to something. Wait wait wait! I love this girl they brought her out she's the gossip for the segment and she says oh my gosh Oh my gosh It'd be just unbelievable She just sounds like a stereotype it's hilarious Oh my god It's just like pickle jaw And just like an old hostess fruit pie wrapper from the third grade. I could go there, but I ain't gonna go there because you know what i'm thinking Okay How much do you have to drink in order to get your stomach pumped? I mean, how many body shots is that? It's a lot but she's only 4'9", so... A little taller than me. That's the Asian gay guy? Yeah And she's about 110 pounds So she had to have a lot to drink Wait hold on stop it

1:35:12 She's 110 pounds so she had to have a lot. What is she? 45 pounds? 110 pounds isn't needing a lot, you get drunk pretty quickly I think she meant kilos How much more? I knew it! You couldn't handle it New York Times guy till hell freezes over before my ear I want to listen to it now. She has so much to drink all the time, her partying is non-stop but here's the thing after she went into hospital she had a stomach pump she went right back out the next night do it again So the whole thing of course the big joke is and its incredibly funny that oh well did they find sperm when they pumped their stomach? Oh yeah that was the joke in the black book That was the big joke

1:36:00 Well, very very funny. This is the whole reason along with some fluoridation of your water that our young people can't actually get up off their asses and protest their government killing them! Yeah this is good now so here's the kicker Here's the kicker by the way there was about seven or eight clips I could have used and that one we didn't finish were not going to finish I've got the one this is the first time I've ever seen this advertised in my life This is who advertises on this show, which is pretty much like what? Play? Yeah. You're a free man. Thanks a lot. Be back If you've never had to arrange for bail bond before, it can seem pretty scary not to mention expensive I had no idea what to do My friend told me call Aladdin It's the best call ever made Aladdin made it simple To help with payment plan so that I could make monthly payments and continue paying my other bills Because Aladdin worked with me I was able get out quickly And did my commitment to make my payments And its all behind me now thanks to Aladdin

1:37:00 Aladdin. Aladdin Dale Vaughn, we get you out, we get you through it Hey baby! Hey baby listen I was just watching the TV and i was just watching that... You know the show baby? You know the show baby where they're talking about Snooki with a sperm in her stomach? hey baby I'm just watching this on the tv and uh... you can't even get your loan to get me out baby come on maybe you can give me a baby i know you can do better because still pay all the rest of our bills baby come on I mean people out there who listened to our show you have to realize him by the way good reason we don't have advertisers would be beyond would-be But anyway, the point is that the advertising on television tends to be aimed at the audience as best it can. So when you watch for example The Nightly News with Brian Williams every I'd say 80% of the ads that you'll see on that show are for some pill or another that has to do with being... And typically with your penis?

1:36:00 Well, very very funny. This is the whole reason along with some fluoridation of your water that our young people can't actually get up off their asses and protest their government killing them! Yeah this is good now so here's the kicker Here's the kicker by the way there was about seven or eight clips I could have used and that one we didn't finish were not going to finish I've got the one this is the first time I've ever seen this advertised in my life This is who advertises on this show, which is pretty much like what? Play? Yeah. You're a free man. Thanks a lot. Be back If you've never had to arrange for bail bond before, it can seem pretty scary not to mention expensive I had no idea what to do My friend told me call Aladdin It's the best call ever made Aladdin made it simple To help with payment plan so that I could make monthly payments and continue paying my other bills Because Aladdin worked with me I was able get out quickly And did my commitment to make my payments And its all behind me now thanks to Aladdin

1:37:00 Aladdin. Aladdin Dale Vaughn, we get you out, we get you through it Hey baby! Hey baby listen I was just watching the TV and i was just watching that... You know the show baby? You know the show baby where they're talking about Snooki with a sperm in her stomach? hey baby I'm just watching this on the tv and uh... you can't even get your loan to get me out baby come on maybe you can give me a baby i know you can do better because still pay all the rest of our bills baby come on I mean people out there who listened to our show you have to realize him by the way good reason we don't have advertisers would be beyond would-be But anyway, the point is that the advertising on television tends to be aimed at the audience as best it can. So when you watch for example The Nightly News with Brian Williams every I'd say 80% of the ads that you'll see on that show are for some pill or another that has to do with being... And typically with your penis?

1:37:50 There's a lot of that. In fact, I have a Cialis ad here right from the Brian Williams show. Why don't we play that since we're doing it anyway? Do you mind? No! Wait wait... This actually- there is a kicker to this There is a, this ad. Let's see if I think this is the one anyway at the end of this ad that this was played This was actually off a TBS I believe and at the end of the ad there's a little thing they Segwayed into something else which makes it kind of ludicrous One look can turn the everyday into romantic An accidental touch can turn ordinary into something more. Oh, don't touch it! Moments can change any time just like that Accidental Touch It's like the TSA could do an accidental touch and I'm taking Cialis and like boing-oing-oing One look can turn the everyday Just one looked John is this shit is so good one Look can get you a super boomer into romantic

1:38:48 An accidental touch can turn ordinary into something more. Moments can change any time, just like that and when they do men with erectile dysfunction can be more confident in their ability to be ready with Cialis for daily use. Cialis for daily use is a clinically proven low-dose tablet you take every day so You can be ready any time the moment is right. Tell your doctor about your medical condition and all medications, and ask if you're healthy enough for sexual activity. Don't take Cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain as this may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. Don't drink alcohol in excess with Cialis. Side effects may include headache, upset stomach, delayed backache or muscle ache. To avoid long-term injuries seek immediate medical help when erection lasts more than four hours. If you have any sudden decrease or loss of hearing or vision stop taking Cialis and call your doctor right away

1:39:36 Ask your doctor if Cialis for daily use is right for you. For a 30 tablet free trial offer, go to cialis.com Ready Sensei? What is that what does it the bit there? You cut your step on it! I'm sorry let me listen again here we go. Cialis dot com. Ready Sensei? I can't understand it It was something about ready set something or other That's not... Go to cialis dot com Ready, Sensei? Yeah. That's not the... I have another ad. Can i just say one thing about this Cialis? Well wait a minute! Let me say something first which is why would you be telling your doctor about your medical condition doesn't he tell you about your medical condition? It doesn't make sense to him. How about ask your doctor if you're healthy enough to have sex what what that's crazy Ask your doctor if you're healthy enough to had to have sex

1:40:34 And what this is... What's he gonna say to you? No, you're gonna die! I mean sex is like the only thing all humans actually are supposed to do. That's like the only thing we're built for is to have sex and be- I'm not healthy excuse me honey I'm not healthy enough Let me find that piece in the clip. That was amazing see Alice for daily use is a clinically proven low-dose it's clinically proven Every day so you can be ready anytime I could be I'm gonna tell you what this is for in a minute cuz he got to Be ready at any time all of us right? Tell your doctor about your medical condition and all medications and ask if you're healthy enough for sexual activity Excuse me John am I healthy enough for sexually no

1:41:17 Tell me doctor don't tell you're not tell me I'm not healthy and lose some weight Stop drinking. Okay, I'm smoking so what this is all right is this is part of the slavery system because the way the media works, right? If you don't look the way the magazines look and the way women are portrayed then your man does not get a hard-on anymore. And that's in combination with the fluoride and all the stuff they're spraying in the air... You know it's just like you completely zonked out but in order to... Because one thing... That sound!

1:41:57 So the one thing that everyone has to do, otherwise you die is you have to have sex. You need sexual activity in your life it's like eating breathing and pooping...You need sexual activity and uh... and because you're now turned off by your by your mates male female whatever it is because they don't have that look that is being portrayed we have to keep our slaves healthy enough so will give me this thing with now just a random jet and they just touch in point going on at work he's like the any and you do take in combination with some other stuff in your hallucinating or whatever because you need to get into the look of the commercials itself because guys

1:42:34 can't get hard anymore looking at their spouse. Doesn't matter if it's... they only show men and women but I'm sure that it's the same for homosexual couples because we're portrayed in a certain way, It's sad! It's so sad But even sadder is I have to ask my doctor if i'm healthy enough for sexual activity. You better start asking All right, so we got that well I have another drug pill ad that has something quite amusing at the end of it That other one didn't work out but this one here you'll clearly hear This is that one was from I think The Nightly News this was this is the one from TBS where they They said this is about this is a ridiculous birth control pill that kills your period yes he's an

1:43:19 Seasonic and it in at the end they put a somebody I know yeah, I've worked in enough You know back. I've seen these guys operate. I've Somebody slipped this in on purpose They have a very little clip that low TBS promo for something It just says a little one words like a one-liner at the end of this ad and then they cut to another ad but there's this thing that's dropped in and it's like somebody did this on purpose Who says all birth control pills have to be the same? Birth control pills don't have to mean 12 periods a year. When you're on a birth control pill, there's no medical need to have a monthly period. Really?!

1:44:01 Is that true? There's no need, no medical need. So what are you waiting for? Comfort your life with fewer periods like other birth control pills. Seasonic is 99% effective but instead of getting your period every month, we get it every three months. That's four periods a year. Oh that's awesome! Hold on a second... You know one thing I don't know this for a fact But it seems to me that this is just another birth control pill that was developed and when they were testing it, they said, hey crap these women aren't having any periods. They're going to freak out right? That's like the post-it notes where it was a mistake. The gum didn't work

1:44:40 And you have your genius in the room saying, no they're not. I've got an idea! Let's sell that as the feature. My doctor told me it more likely to have bleeding or spotting between periods This can be slight to a flow like irregular period and should decrease over time Like other birth control pills prescription season has serious risks including blood clots stroke and heart attacks Smoking increases these risks especially if you're over 35 If you ever had any of these conditions certain cancers Or if you could be pregnant You shouldn't take the pill The pill does not protect against HIV or STDs. Get all the facts at season8.com! Get what you want from a birth control pill, starting now! Repunctuate your life with fewer periods Ask your doctor for Season 8 Alright so I think that- You stepped on the end No you can't hear anything in your stupid end clips Repunctuate your life with fewer periods Ask your doctor for Season 8 Very funny Like you can't- very funny You didn't hear him say very funny? It's hard to hear

1:45:36 How would you know that? You didn't play it. Trade your life with fewer periods, ask your doctor for season 8. Very funny. Right whatever... You have to understand John, you saw it and heard the clip but your mind is tuned to it. You cut it off before you played it before you made your value judgement Yeah I'm sick and tired of this commercial. I've seen this commercial for 10 years! You just seeing this now? No, they've changed the commercial. Now all the women who are doing all those disclaimers have a big grin on their face! Okay good point They're happy they're not bleeding no they got a big grin when they say you can get cancer they got a big grin. Oh hey you can get cancer! Awesome let's talk about Richard Holbrook

1:46:27 have a richard holbrooke brook uh... tribute on the clipless but you can do yours all the only thing i did want to mention is the other and i don't know if this is true of course but apparently his dying words were you've got to stop this war in afghanistan as they wield them into the pocket are here yeah i'm not i'm pretty sure it didn't say that Richard Holbrook, he was the guy... now he basically ran the whole Bosnia operation but he was the guy who Cardizic? Was that the guys name? The crazy guy they found who's been on perpetual trial in The Hague. He was the murderer of

1:47:10 So no, it's his name. It's a different name you guys named card is it kardesic something like no? No, no carjick karjik Yeah, he just go on I mean I had it but did where you come up with that name now? It's boggled my mind have lost it so we're going slow but I'm Elisabeth no no no not slow but on Milosevic It's the guy they found a couple years ago Who was who was well again that was late leading in normal life as hiding in plain sight as a doctor yeah And he said, hey wait a minute Holbrook promised me complete immunity. He made a deal with me and showed the papers that Holbrook made to deal with him and they screwed the guy anyway. Yeah no there's a story on this clip I have to say Democracy Now of all which was kind of surprising because Holbrook is associated with the Democrats

1:47:57 Holbrooke came into business with the, during the Vietnam War during the Democrat era. He did the Johnson thing when they... that's when he started training getting trained then he was the Carter guy who was responsible for bombing the crap and basically a genocide in East Timor. Some people say it's Karadzic others say it's Kardashian just keep it with Karadzic as they he's the one responsible for east team which is something that we don't study in school we still have a lot of sketchy about this seems to be a genocide that we will get something to do with and then here's the guy apparently what he did in the bosnia thing he would

1:48:36 According to some reports, well he's also responsible for going to the head of North Vietnam when he was visiting New York. So they were gonna try to join the Carter administration and we're gonna end the embargo and he promised a guy that we're gonna stop this it's bad and told the guy to wait for a phone call waited four days nothing happened went back to Vietnam that was the end of it. And you also apparently Went to a Melosovich and there's there's a movie of him meeting with him and told Milosevic She says look he did an economic hitman thing. He says you got an issue here We have to come in we so once should I turn over this and that he basically called Brooke was the messenger of death and Milosevic said no way, and then they didn't so Clinton started bombing the place bombing him yep

1:49:21 and with that was always a mystery and holbrooke was responsible you know who did they go anyway you play my clip which has some of this in there but i i was amazed it wasn't democracy now because the sky is a democrat only associated with democratic administrations even though they can have passed a little bit off these you know david could blame bush a little bit but the fact of the matter is that they were doing progressives don't like to admit that their worst ended the republicans and this is uh... the old to hold brook While tributes have been pouring in for Richard Holbrooke, little attention has been paid to his role in implementing and backing U.S policies that killed thousands of civilians as Assistant Secretary of State in the Carter administration, Holbrooke oversaw weapon shipments to the Indonesian military as it killed a third of East Timor's population In 80 he played a key role on the Carter administration support for South Korean military crackdown on pro-democracy uprising in the city of Gwangju that killed hundreds of people

1:50:18 Details of Holbrooke's role in East Timor and Korea have been entirely ignored by the corporate media since his death, hardly covered before as well. Richard Holbrook was also a prominent Democratic backer of the Bush administration's decision to attack Iraq in 2003. Yeah that Saddam posed a threat with weapons of mass destruction, Richard Holbrook but during the Clinton administration there were the most ruthless economic sanctions in history imposed by the Democrats on on the government, or rather the people of Iraq that just targeted the civilian population denied food and medicine turned the hospitals in Iraq and John Pilgrim knows about this better than anyone because he did a definitive film on it turn the hospitals in Iraq into death rows for infants

1:51:00 So, you know Richard Holbrooke was part of an administration that also bombed Baghdad on multiple occasions in the north and south of the country as well under the guise of a no-fly zone. This was during Clinton's term? And this is during the Clinton Administration so then when you fast forward to the Bush fraudulent case for war Having someone like Richard Holbrooke support it is the embodiment of the continuity of US foreign policy in Iraq. Clinton started a war on Iraq in full after George HW Bush invaded and attacked Iraq during the 1991 Gulf War, and its been consistent US policy and Richard Holbrooke has been a staple of that policy- was a staple of that policy. I wanted to go back in time...

1:51:41 I have some deconstruction on what's happening with this. Some serious deconstruction uh... because what was holbrooke really doing he was uh... he was doing his usual trick in afghanistan this time around which of course is really pakistan you and i have discussed this ad nauseum that the whole afghanistan thing is really about pakistan to start with now i do want a point out that uh... did the whole brooks death his are they order ruptured in a meeting with hillary clinton I mean this just adds to the nefarious body count that surrounds the Clintons. How does your aorta actually rupture? You have to get your blood pressure up through the ceiling, i would assume Or maybe someone just karate chops you or something like that... who knows! So he's having a meeting with Hillary Clinton drops basically drops dead. They try to rescue him and they do some uh... And this happened in Pakistan did it not?!

1:52:40 I don't know where it happened. But, i understood that it happened while she was in a meeting with him...I could be wrong! So yeah well you look that up or I'm gonna deconstruct this is with some help from Eric from Portland by the way he did a pretty good job so he was basically the guy running the show in Pakistan so he is now out and there's basically a vacuum now in the power structure of Pakistan because we have, uh... we have president there known as Mr. Ten Percent Zardari who is weak corrupt amid the whole play it's all completely lame

1:53:27 But now you've got, what's his name? Musharraf is now who of course is military and he was ousted. He's piping up going hey I'm taking care of everything Pakistan has to be protected yeah I'm here I'm on the scene so with Holbrooke out-of-the-way there is some...I think there is a benefit to him being out of the way and this came out yesterday, China's ambassador to Pakistan will be in Pakistan from December 17th through the 19th as it is expected to sign 20 agreements and memorandum of understanding. This of course is about the 100 plus Chinese energy projects that are taking place

1:54:17 And I think that whether intentional or not would be horrible to think it's intentional, but with Holbrooke out of the way Pakistan is now destabilized and they're trying to cut off China moving in and bringing more Middle East oil to China. You always have to boil it back to the oil But having Holbrooke gone I think is a huge deal! I think its big ass problem. From the sounds of his history Yeah, no she was they were having a meeting. I'm just not finding where the meeting took place So it could have been impacted if it makes sense It was in Pakistan she's never home and did and there was something she never hope you know bill says the same thing Bitch is never home

1:55:03 uh... there was something else that was really weird as funny that in the industry for women from the pakistani group from pakistan senator hillary clinton confirmed the death of richard home for a little bit doing confirming it well she's an official she can go out she's his boss i guess in some way i don't know where i put the uh... when i put this link but uh... there was at the in pakistan did and this is enough man i can't believe i can find someone see if i could find it while you're doing your next thing here Once you play, you can play the... I have this other clip on Holbrook where you're looking at Holbrook and East Timor. Okay, I'll play that. Yeah, yeah that's good. You were the Assistant Secretary of State in the Carter administration At the height of the genocide in Timor The years of... This is a question and answer with Holbrooke. This was obviously not done yesterday

1:55:53 no this is not a ninety seven this is the question and answer one of the universities by some investigative reporter asking grilling holbrooke out of the blue he didn't expect this guy to be there uh... seventy-seven seventy eight seventy nine when killing rose to a peak and you were the carter administration's appointment on team or policy you handle testimony before congress and so on and it was under your watch that u s sent in the old v ten bronco planes, the low flying planes which were used to bomb and strafe the Timorese out of the hills. Testimony from Catholic Church sources reports from Amnesty International and others indicated that hundreds of thousands of East Timorese were killed during this period. And during this period not only was the US sending in these weapons which were used to kill the Timorese

1:56:43 but it was also blocking the UN Security Council from taking enforcement action on the two resolutions which called on Indonesia to withdraw its troops without delay. We know this because Daniel Patrick Moynihan, the former US ambassador to the UN wrote about it in his memoirs that was a policy that started under Ford and Kissinger okay and you continued that policy so I have 2 questions The first is would you be willing to facilitate the full declassification of documents regarding what the Carter administration, your administration did in East Timor by granting a waiver. Now I want to mention something here there he goes on and on about how you know it in the Carter administration keeps coming up in the mix as a bunch of basic genocidal maniacs

1:57:30 because of Holbrook and I as i was listening to all these tributes on the rest of in that Carter administration thing kept coming up by which I began to think to myself Why is Jimmy Carter out there pounding nails and building houses and doing all these things that seem to be based on some guilt-ridden conscience, that he may well be exhibiting? I mean, he's the only president ever that has been... obviously you know he's got something wrong with him. Not that people shouldn't be helping people build houses but a former president doing this is almost bizarre

1:58:09 uh... and he's got a guilty conscience i think this is not the more thing we have to look into it a little more we've seen that everyone's dropped the ball on it okay you do that and then i will get all looking to the following story this is from the daily telegram sorry the uh... daily telegraph in gitmo nation east members of miss butos pakistan people party member as she was assassinated uh... she was a on track to become the pro-president a of pakistan no uh... they are now suspect that i love this and they're saying that she was not killed by an assassin's bullet number she had her own her head out there out of the the moon roof of the car as he was waving everybody and then obama exploded may said well you know because of the compression of the bomb uh... her head snapped against this unruly and uh... she died

1:59:04 Remember that? No, but go on. Okay well now they're saying she was not killed by an assassin's bullet nor by the compression from the explosion that was all cover she was actually killed by sophisticated laser beam technology Why?! You got a gun man you gotta be you got a bomber you got all this stuff why do you need to go to some crazy outrageous way...you know it's not that hard to kill somebody when your bombing them This sounds like bull crap Well, this is the Interior Minister Hamid Nawaz who was saying this and he says look it's just the facts nothing more nothing less. I'm just like that's pretty cool! It's not cool that she got killed but you know it was like laser beam technology? Yeah I likened that as awesome sounds like he's...I don't know what the point of that is

2:00:04 Well, anyway there's a lot of hope wherever there's maybe it's to scare people thinking. There's some sort of a ray possible Shut up you get you too But regardless wherever Holbrook went bad stuff happened later and he was that he wasn't the head of the Jackals Yeah, yeah completely obvious Um, and why is you know he's being you know poor guy we lost one of our own and oh yeah well of course. Well you know now what are you gonna do? I think he took one for the team quite honestly was he was going off script or something

2:00:42 do something. Well maybe he did have something, maybe it was to turn down the Afghani thing and said look this is crap and what was interesting the other day I think it was either yesterday or the day before I was watching CBS News with Katie Couric so that I could get some...the only reason you watch these shows again is to get clips for drugs They had this really weird piece of propaganda on where they had four soldiers from Afghanistan, all of them lost their legs. They're just four legless guys and and two, you know, Marines. Two like troops and two officers a lieutenant major I think And they were going on and on about how it's worth it to lose our legs It was so important that we're there and it would be all for nothing

2:01:30 if we left prematurely, we have to stay there until the job is done. How disgusting is that? It was four of them and they were all in total agreement... Oh man! This is ridiculous. That's really horrible to do that. So speaking of economic hitmen update on Haiti so AFP agent France Place uh... with a couple of actually was also an AP report where they're out looking at the they've reviewed some of the money that went to Haiti. Now remember you know who is in charge all this Bill Clinton he's did the UN envoy, we had all those celebrities and we did that big

2:02:14 fundraising we all gonna help the poor people of Haiti and they're also in the tented areas as Bill Clinton calls it, the tented areas 1.3 million people their puking their guts out from cholera have nothing to been screwed brought in by the UN so AP Associated Press and I'm not quite sure how they got this one up uh... focused on contracts in the u.s government which spent an estimated one point one billion dollars in issue us humanitarian assistance after your corporate quick and promised another one point one five billion for reconstruction uh... in november the first of one hundred twenty million of the pledge reconstruction funds were transferred to be world bank

2:01:30 if we left prematurely, we have to stay there until the job is done. How disgusting is that? It was four of them and they were all in total agreement... Oh man! This is ridiculous. That's really horrible to do that. So speaking of economic hitmen update on Haiti so AFP agent France Place uh... with a couple of actually was also an AP report where they're out looking at the they've reviewed some of the money that went to Haiti. Now remember you know who is in charge all this Bill Clinton he's did the UN envoy, we had all those celebrities and we did that big

2:02:14 fundraising we all gonna help the poor people of Haiti and they're also in the tented areas as Bill Clinton calls it, the tented areas 1.3 million people their puking their guts out from cholera have nothing to been screwed brought in by the UN so AP Associated Press and I'm not quite sure how they got this one up uh... focused on contracts in the u.s government which spent an estimated one point one billion dollars in issue us humanitarian assistance after your corporate quick and promised another one point one five billion for reconstruction uh... in november the first of one hundred twenty million of the pledge reconstruction funds were transferred to be world bank

2:02:54 And the whole point is, of the article is that for every $100 that was spent on aid to Haiti one dollar and sixty cents was given to a Haitian company. See this is how the economic hitmen work. They say, okay Haiti we're gonna hook you up... We're going to give you a billion dollars but this billion dollars will be spent on American companies coming in to help you and your still gonna owe that billion dollars at the end of the road and that's why were gonna own your ass Only what happened this time is a billion dollars went to all these companies who did F-all with it. Nothing! Except, well I'm sorry they did do something they started to set up the hotels but now it gets even better... Even better! The United States and Canada signaled on Monday mounting impatience with the leaders of Haiti warning them to make greater efforts to resolve their nation's problems or risk an aid freeze

2:03:54 Yes, and unfortunately I don't have any audio of it but US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said there was quote growing frustration. And that's when we're approaching the one year anniversary of this Haitian earthquake and there hasn't been the kind of coordinated coherent response from the government of Haiti that has called for We're gonna cut you off bitches! It is...it literally turns my stomach And we've got Bill Clinton on the UN side and Hillary Clinton who is in charge of USAID. These people are evil, I tell you! The two of them are e-vil! Evil!! And they have taken your money and you idiots stupid slave human resources...I'm sorry to say it You just stay like oh here's our money Oh we've got some celebrities Oh John Bon Jovi singing for Haiti Let me give you some money let me text you some money

2:04:44 You should be so outraged, so angry right now about this. I think you've made this point before... I have to do it because people forget! We keep moving on Well there's a cycle involved with this i noticed that they haven't pinpointed what it is but they'll be another forget period I don't know, is it four years? Three years? I don't know what it was. There were hands across America! It was a farm... actually Farm Aid seems to give money to people but Comic Relief there's a whole bunch of them What was the big giant one that heavily documented how they got soaked all these celebrities And these things, they have these you know there's a cycle of them. I don't know if they can push him together too tightly but they have some disaster everybody gets on the TV and networks give up hours of time which cost them money They can be to pleased with it But did they have to otherwise he look like creeps and its unbelievable It is good business Oh this is fantastic This is the business that Bob Geldof is in That what he does He got good gigs out of it

2:05:48 cool guy. He also gets an ad for a free watch, he got a free watch I think it gets more than the free watch for doing the ad because he's Saint Bob you know they call him... he is a sir he was knighted yeah he's Sir Bob yes Sir Bob Geldof but he did get better knights people call him Saint Bob Saint Bob and I know he's look I don't want to give any personal stuff but i know a lot about Bob Geldof alright so let's shift gears or should I say shift tracks Which is a cue for one of our things. Shift tracks, get it? No I'm not... Oh! You mean shi- oh John do you mean shift tracks?! All aboard trains good planes bad

2:06:36 So the left-wing MSNBC is making a big point out of trying to attack these couple of states, Ohio and Wisconsin. Screw you! High speed rail's a scam and the real reason by the way when you hear that the full pitch of these guys is that the government's gonna give us a buncha money and maybe create a few jobs 5500 in the case of Wisconsin which Olbermann bitches and moans about But the fact of the matter is, long-term maintenance is going to be up to the states and we can't afford it. Which is really what they're...what's the reason you don't want high speed rail? but there was a new piece of information on this Obermann clip that I have that kind of redefines high speed rail see if you can figure it out

2:07:19 During his campaign to become governor of Wisconsin, Tea Party Republican Scott Walker pledged to add 250,000 jobs in his state by 2015. He's yet to take office and already his job creation tally is at negative 5500 at least. In our third story two Tea Party Republican governors elect have turned up their noses at federal money for high-speed rail lines as their state's unemployed twist in the wind. The decision to rescind the high speed rail money finally came down last Thursday, Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood announcing that Wisconsin and Ohio would forfeit $1.2 billion dollars that had been allocated to build high speed rail lines in those states. The money which did not require any state matching of funds was requested under Democratic governors during their campaigns Tea Party Republicans Walker and John Kasich of Ohio each promised to kill the rail projects

2:08:06 I want to tell you, Governor the 39 mile an hour high speed passenger train is dead. Fox News governor had his facts wrong of course the train travels up to 79 miles per hour averaging over 50 before the $400 million in high-speed rail money for Ohio was pulled outgoing Democrat Ted Strickland unsuccessfully begged Governor-elect Kasich to reconsider Wow 79 miles an hour. Yeah, when it's hitting with its full throttle Wow that was just 50 I think the 39 is actually the average that's why he said 39 yeah no that's why this is high-speed rail has nothing to do with it It's just bullcrap there not even putting high speed obviously you're not putting high speed tracks up there No This is like

2:08:54 That's not even, that's not even, that's like inner city in Europe. They have the stuff that the one notch you have for example and uh, yeah, you have the high speed rather than you have an inner city rail which is called different things in different parts of with different countries here. Well, that's what we call a high speed sob baby. That's, that's the speed of my sob. The high-speed rail in Europe so maybe 200 miles an hour they did high speed. The inner city stuff is about 100 or 120 Sometimes, the average is probably 80 or 90. Minimum! This is like 3950. Well there's a coverage... And then Olbermann's arrogant about it The high speed rail goes up to 79 miles an hour and the average is 50 I have the facts right here

2:09:38 by the way we're doing another uh... talking points memo and it will be about high-speed rail this time that's coming out at the end of this month john is only a matter as i can finish it but now i got his new information as soon as i could finish it well there's something to add, there's something to add um... there is now this huge al jazeera boy hillenolten did a great job on this did an hour long special titled on a wing in a prayer and it's based around these whistleblowers from Boeing who have uncovered the possibility of a catastrophic event that the 737, the workhorse of Boeing by the way. It is! That it is unsound... It's the Southwest jet of choice because its never had a fatal accident

2:10:25 Well, it's never had a fatal accident do with the aircraft Correct. It's always been pilot error but now they're saying well when it when it impacts the ground it breaks up well because Let me write that down But let me write that down now did the plane is hitting the ground at what speed? Beyond the point but they did an hour-long special on Al Jazeera and there's a lot of stuff going on here, but I think Hill & Nolton really pulled this one in because the 737 it is the most common passenger aircraft that's used. Oh yeah they make all their money on that. And there are all kinds of oh i'm afraid to fly...I don't want to fly now just be afraid slave..be afraid to fly take the train There are 85 million flights a year

2:11:16 Take off and land listen there's 85 million takeoffs and 85 million landings a year Where is the danger? Listen to this clip from Fox The travel expert comes on and she's going to talk about travel deals for the holiday season. Or you want to go onto bing.com slash travel, and that is an airfare predictor I went in looked for a flight over the holidays in Sarasota Florida it actually told me last night wait So this is like cheap flights from being great, okay?

2:11:56 Most everybody just driving or taking the train is what she's saying. You can't really hear it that well I don't think would you use a microphone on that? Yeah, someone sent the clip in as a mic a mic come on guys, you know not that hard to do it but it's actually is quite a funny clip because she and his link in the show knows no agenda show calm she says you know everyone's driving and taking the train that's what she said nobody's taken the train every one I'm gonna take the train I'm gonna go into skinny you know I'm gonna goal in the next couple weeks probably do maybe I'll do next week I'm going to go down to Berkeley jump on the train to Sacramento cuz I wanted visit the Train Museum up there which is a couple blocks away from Amtrak and I'm gonna come gonna take my little

2:12:49 camera and I'm gonna shoot a little movie showing you how popular the train is and how long it takes. There's two ways that can go, I already calculated this out, I can pay like 50 bucks a ride so it's going to cost me 100 bucks which more than what would cost me in gasoline. car it would take me about the same amount of time to take the train without and end up without a car and it will cost me more but I'm gonna do it anyway. In that clip she actually says you can rent a car for $19, yeah where? Yeah before you get to the taxes and the insurance and all that 19 dollars...I would like to see an invoice from anybody at Fox showing me in nineteen dollars a day total don't take

2:13:34 crap john i think we need to do that to pass on a very serious message right now by just me tonight can i interrupt the trains good planes bad segment i think we're done with it you can see and here we are again talking about up potential of possible al-qaeda threat what is our kind of raises head uh... seemingly every holiday season okay this is about this is season two b jolly and this is now everywhere, this is from CNN. Al-Qaeda is planning attacks this Christmas because they do it during the Christmas season because you know they hate Christ. Right! That's why that listen to this amazing... This is The Pentagon reporter from CNN and its they're going to attack and by the way it's al Qaeda in Iraq now just so you know

2:14:20 It's the uh... I got a topper to that. You've seen their office right? Here it is Well they are trying to cause disruption and they know they can do it at the holiday season Yes, this is great When so many people are out and about what do we know about this well US officials say they have received information from Iraqi authorities Hello! Hello! I'm Iraqi I'm telling you we're coming to disrupt you, your shopping. You're out and about holiday season fuck Fuck Christmas! Who have talked to captured insurgents, interrogated them and those people say Al-Qaeda in Iraq is planning attacks possibly against the US or Europe at this holiday season. As you know very close together America or Europe doesn't matter we're coming one way or the other were coming to get you We say that there's no specific target or timing or specific... Nothing And we're not gonna tell you when we're gonna do it

2:15:18 like what are you expecting hello this is the al-qaeda in iraq uh we're going to come to bloomingdale's in union square at 12 0 5 p.m pass on the word target or timing or specific location associated with it. A US military spokesman in Baghdad gave CNN this following statement, let me read it. John here comes here's the statement He says quote we are aware of the announcement by officials within the government of Iraq yesterday regarding alleged terrorist plans for attacks against the U.S and Europe How come we don't have video that press conference?

2:15:58 I mean, they did an announcement. The officials did an announcement and they said we're... hey! We're gonna attack just so you know we are attacking the U.S. mission in Iraq will work closely with the government of Iraq and our interagency partners to help determine the extent of any potential threat This is great! You have to understand So they are taking it seriously They are looking into it but right now nothing specific in terms of a location or a specific plan Love the fact like they're planning on attacking times. She's gonna say we don't know anything I love that though it so great as she say there were dad is she know any of this is all bullcrap All right looking into it, but is there anything or any talk? I know this is early in time So this is Don Lemon by the way This is why I play this clip Don lemon listen to his voice intonation as he's mocking mocking

2:16:50 talking this. Well, you know I think you just see you just hit the question right there Can it be stepped up reasonably any more than it already is? This is all part of see something say something this they've been like yeah. We're going to the airport You got a step it up you gotta be vigilant occasion at this point that US authorities are planning any step-up But let's let's remind ourselves Vigilance in Europe is also very high just a few days ago

2:17:31 Oh, that carbon... Hey! Stop this clip. It's driving me crazy. Vigilance is very high in Europe because a guy blew himself up. Yeah yeah yeah you know they're getting nowhere with this crap we're not in the middle of World War II for God sake. But they are trying. It has gone worse than you think as a matter of fact. With new moniker that showing up AQUSA Oh no, Al-Qaeda on the Arabian Peninsula in America? Is that what it is? An al Qaeda on the Arabian peninsula based out of Yemen. And in fact the current director of Central Intelligence Agency has said that these two entities have become as threatening if not more threatening than Al-Qaeda central so that alone I think is evidence of the viability of the Al-Qaeda message and their resonance that continues to have throughout Who is this

2:18:23 The professor at Georgetown named Hoffman. This is what they're teaching in school? Yep, and it gets worse because now he has this list of all these Al-Qaeda operations supposedly around the world. Al Qaeda Central, Al Qaeda Eurasian Peninsula, Al Qaeda Yemen... And Al AQ USA! Al Qaeda USA! Let's hear it let's do it! We see expansion as well with al Qaeda returning to the Sudan establishing at least an embryonic operation in Khartoum that's Al Qaeda in the two Niles I think we got names for everything, t-shirts hoodies. We need everything people let's get on this bandwagon and then even more astonishingly one has to say that Al Qaeda has put into place a very small miniscule perhaps but nonetheless a viable means of recruiting and radicalizing individuals American citizens in American residents in this country now

2:19:18 Now, it's rather bold I have to say to put up there on this slide Al-Qaeda in the USA as one of these networks. But I feel on fairly solid ground because when General Petraeus was in Washington last April and gave a public address at the Woodrow Wilson Center he has his own slide that – he calls it a star slide – that has the al Qaeda networks throughout the world and General Petraeus had AQUSA on it so if General Petraeus says it I have to say... This is amazing! Can I get the star slide? AQ USA! We're number one, we're number one. A Q U S A! I'm gonna have to have a soccer game between these different groups They got a league They got a whole league This list is a mile long This guy is a dork

2:20:06 Who was he teaching? Kids. This was a lecture at one of the institutes but the fact is he's, he is a teacher this information. He teaches public policy here I can't believe it! I just can't believe what I'm hearing. AQUSA It's a very small fraction So far just now but you know it's got to be... The theme is Al Qaeda has got a resonant message So what they're trying to do, I know you can just see where this comes from. It comes from the State Department because everybody that's alive today pretty much has been raised on the notion that the country has to have an enemy and it was always the red communists

2:20:44 And there was a communist under every bed and we had to investigate the communists. We had all this communism crap going on, they were gonna kill us! Yeah commies! Once the Soviet Union collapsed into Russia and a few other things...we didn't have any enemy anymore. Nothing was showing up like what you're expecting from Iran or some of these other countries We're creating, we created this Al Qaeda situation and so now the Al Qaeda thing is not panning out enough because we don't have the communist under every bed analogy. So we got to bring the al-Qaeda into our country... Here it's gotta be you know what they're gonna be in in the movie business

2:21:21 And so that's why we have see something say something. That's why we have AQUSA as a new meme Everything is about finding Al Qaeda, they're in there under the bed This is exactly what it was like in the 50s So that's what we call a fractal It's a total fractal and its classic And so were gonna be seeing more not less Well I can take this one step further By the way before you take it a step further There are no Al-Qaeda in the USA except some traveler perhaps. Yeah there are, they're at the Pentagon! The guys who set it all up the CIA is al Qaeda Well take your one step thing further Alright so in Gitmo Nation East in the United Kingdom Paula Neville Jones Pauline Neville Jones she's I believe the minister of...I think she's the new Minister of Defense It could be Homeland Security whatever

2:22:15 She is now talking about this exact same fractal, about radicalized Al-Qaeda. I don't know if she says Al Qaeda but people who are radicalized in the United Kingdom and she has some ideas on what to do about that. and so we have to bring about systems whereby intervention can take place with these individuals. But at what stage then is this money meant to be intervening? What are they paying for? We need obviously the cooperation of local community, we won't do it without being able

2:22:52 to have, you know, signalled to us here is an individual who looks so he's getting into trouble and that involves the local community being willing to tell say the police or the local authority there is somebody here who needs help. And how does the money assist with that then? Well there are councillors, there are members of the local community can go in and help but all of that needs funding So you actually do it, this is a very one-to-one very nitty gritty process. I'm trying to find the... she actually says pre crime i'm sorry that's somehow didn't get the right piece here Do you believe at the moment Muslim communities around this country do enough themselves never mind the money and prevent strategy etc but do they do enough at the moment to provide the kinds of warnings that need to be provided? I think two things one is I think there is variable

2:23:43 Secondly, I think that there's much greater awareness. One of the problems we face at the moment is awareness in the community actually getting to people who also need to know about it which is either local police or... Crap! I can't find that. I'm sorry about that. That totally bombed us. But she actually says a certain point she says We have to get to pre-thought when people are thinking. That's when we have to nip it in the bud is the pre thought So what this leads towards is pre crime That's what this all leads to. Yeah, but you just is something we've been noticing all over the place. Duh! You know I'm glad that they're finally catching up to us so... But your right John your are so right and of course you have I think you've witnessed some of uh no maybe haven't you too young for that? You weren't around when there when the communist thing was going were ya?

2:24:34 I was around, but as a little kid toddling around. I wasn't paying much attention to it. So we're going to have Al-Qaeda in America? But it's been repeated forever! Especially the Berkeley area where never ending reminders of the House Un-American Activities Committee and of course Hollywood still irked about being called at the carpet And, uh... except you know there's a whole series now on the moguls on the TMC Turner Classic or TCM Turner Classic movies that talks about this. But the fact of the matter is this is what we're looking at. This is just the same old fractal but the thing that was always missing was you can't have a communist under every bed

2:25:14 with Al Qaeda being in Sudan. No, no! AQUSA we're number one AK USA and by the way they call it OQ USA what as if there's some is as if there's a okay to hear if i was in the muslim community and most muslims in united states are kinda liberal muslims or not met maniacs are not demanding that uh... they we have a muslim screaming stuff that you know it so many times a day dig to prayer and all the rest of it wasn't just you know run businesses yes i would be No, I would be living because there are the targets Yeah But you have to understand that if you're if you stand up and say hey This is bullcrap. She were aq USA then you get it immediately You getting two-to-the head right then in there And in fact, you're gonna be great Because you're gonna you're gonna make some noise and Then we can do a story about you and then hey, I saw something gotta I gotta say something yeah It's going real fast now John. It really is I feel I feel kind of

2:26:13 Not good. Well, the guy in the backyard is like the key to this whole thing as far as I'm concerned he's got playing with his hose and they gun him down check it out It's in Long Beach look up Long Beach murder killing police you know hose on Google. And go to noagendashow.com, dvorak.org slash NA and channeldavorach.com slash NA and help us keep digging into this stuff. In fact we left a lot of stuff on the table, we'll bring it on... Tons of stuff! On Sunday show there's a bunch of stuff and I got some very funny Assange thing which is unusual, new tax meme and some other ideas

2:26:52 Okay, um yeah you're right. I mean II had you know what? I had tons of stuff too But we're like way over now Can I do an end-of-show clip do you mind if I do that what is it it's Our friend and Nigel Farage oh yeah anything with farges good to go don't even have to ask he's berating Barrasso the president and It's really, it's funny as usual. It's just hilarious. He is our go-to guy for any show. For anything good. Okay everybody be on the lookout for Al Qaeda They will be in your school they will be at the Walmart they will be at the mall if you see anything that looks like al qaeda recognized by a towel on their head and a beard please report that to your Walmart manager

2:27:42 Immediately. Yeah, he's not working for the government. Be very very afraid of Al Qaeda USA AQUSA all the way where is my hoodie come on we're number one and for those you visiting Gitmo Nation United States I apologize for such idiots here. Coming to you from Gitmo Nation West and the Hilltop Watchtower, Crackpot Command Center in the morning, I'm Adam Curry Actually the countries they're coming from are probably worse in many cases especially if it's uh... the EU Uh..I'm John C. Dvorak And we will talk to you again on Sunday of course right here For early morning service on no agenda

2:28:25 Mr Brose, the recent Wikileaks storm has led to mixed feelings with some people saying transparency is good and others saying perhaps they'll damage international diplomacy. But I was particularly amused by the references to you in WikiLeaks where it talked about your trip to Russia and that fact that you were ignored and excluded and the Russian view from upon high that you were nothing more than a glorified international civil servant. Well, Mr Burose remember we've discussed this before here and I've pointed out to you again and again that you have not been directly elected by the people and therefore have no real legitimacy

2:29:05 Is it that the fact you're unelected is the reason why you don't command more respect on a global stage and why increasingly, the peoples of Europe are holding you and the entire Commission in contempt? Thank You. I would not expect you to find common line with Russians because that's what your suggesting that you agree with them Frankly, i mean...I was elected by this Parliament by secret vote. So I think that I deserve the respect of this parliament from all members of the parliament

2:29:40 And I think in the European Union of democracies, 27 democracies it's a reasonable way to elect President of the Commission because we are not a state precisely and you...I'm sure you will not be in favor of a European unified state. Since we are NOT a unified state It is not a direct election of a president of the European Union We don't have that! You have a President of the Commission, you may like it or not I like him more than YOU But okay but in fact I've been elected by this Parliament There is a President of the European Council that was designated by the heads of state and government. This is the way we are, I think it's a democratic way of handling the diversity of the European Union and I think that if others do not respect our institutions at least I hope members of the European Parliament will respect the institutions we have in the European Union

2:30:27 Additional question? Well Mr Brossau I enjoyed that enormously. The fact that you can stand up and boast about the fact, that you were elected in secret and somehow this gives you democratic legitimacy is the most bizarre concept i've come across in my entire life. The fact is it is the Commission. SLAVES! This is your song, thank you. Slaves... In the morning