Multidimensional Poverty Index

00:00 They should have burned it off his chest. Adam Curry, John C. DeVore. It's Thursday, November 4th, 2010. Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 249-er. This is no agenda. Moving off the cloud and coming to you from the Hilltop Watchtower, Crackpot Command Center, Gitmo Nation West, here in the People's Republic of Southern California. In the morning, I'm Adam Curry. I don't know when he was ever in the cloud. Well, maybe his head's in the clouds. Mine's not, I'm John C. Dvorak. I, as you know, I said... Why don't you explain to people, new listeners, what the Drop.io fiasco was? Okay. So, we were... So, first of all, there's the concept of the cloud, which is all of this stuff that we... where we put our stuff, our valuable stuff on these services, many of them free, with a freemium model. So, you get like some space free and then you get some services with it and everyone kind of leeches on it and then, you know, some people actually start to use this stuff professionally.

01:23 like Drop.io which was a place where you could create basically little file storage very quickly, drag and drop stuff into your browser and you'd have links to these things so it's kind of hosting with some links that you can then post. Right. And so I, of course, one of the people who supported this service and actually paid for more storage and we're the guys that always get screwed in the end because of course these business models actually are quite unsustainable. You think about bandwidth and you know store it's just not completely cheap to keep all that running and the amount of people I think who take advantage of the freemium services is too small so it just doesn't really work.

02:02 Unless you go to advertising at huge scale like Facebook and Google. So anyway, Facebook bought Drop.io which apparently was to get the human resources from everything I read. They wanted the human resources to come and work for them. And so they say, oh that's great, we'll take the money, whatever it is, undisclosed. But then they close down the service with like a 45 day notice. So all of those links which are created and copied and linked everywhere to our show notes, our art, other assets that we've published, are just being destroyed. And I have no way to track it. I mean, I created thousands of drops. It's an impossible job to go and figure out

02:46 Even for a couple hundred episodes of show where everything is so I decided I would never let that happen again, of course right because Because it would happen again. And it will, and it'll happen to Facebook. One way or the other people are going to get screwed with Facebook too. You watch it, it always happens. It's all a bunch of bullcrap. I mean I witnessed this in the 90s. Oh no don't worry we'll be around forever, we got an escrow and you can get your data. Your data's an escrow man, don't worry about it. It's like what? Escrow. Escrow. I can just see it. You dropped the escrow bomb. Believe me, I've heard that in many a pitch on internet, interweb-based stuff. So then it kind of hit me. I was like, oh, it's very obvious. The cloud as in a storage place is actually kind of good because it lets someone else deal with all the hassle of bandwidth transfer and all that. But the things you need to own are your domain name, right? That's the number one thing.

03:50 And which of course is also by definition a cloud-based service, but the only people who can essentially mess that up is like government so you know so I Get it. I guess that's all we can say about that But the big thing for me is links links is definitely like the currency of the internet and so I I built a little cloud URL redirector so every link I post in public and at least to something that is an asset that I control, will now run through curryscloud.com. So if I have this stuff... You went out and got a domain name called curryscloud.com? Mm-hmm. And then I built a little service, and it's just like Bitly, and I'm going to be using it instead of Bitly. It has all the same cool statistics and everything I can see, which is a benefit. I can see how many people clicked on the link, you know, just basic statistics on that.

04:49 But it should where these files are hosted and of course I've set up a backup strategy so I you know I can easily replicate Let's say I'm hosting stuff now at Apple and if Apple decides which they could do at any moment They could say oh this I disk that's really not working for us We'll give you three months to close it down, and they've done that they did that with their old web-based service So just you got to migrate it off. It's we're gonna close it and Yeah, so all those links get hosed so instead of those links getting hosed now I can just take a folder drop it somewhere else go into my database just change all the The base URLs and voila not a single link is broken. It's a service I tell you it's a service to our human resources and I'd like to say in the morning to them in the chat room at no agenda chat net and of course to all ships at sea

05:39 All right, so we've got our executive producers here. Oh, the spreadsheet came in. So let me thank them for producing this show. Beginning with Scott Schoenberger out of Malibu. Oh, really? Who produced the show, $250 donation. And two associate executive producers, Craig Lennox of Hornsby Heights. Is that also California? It is New South Wales. So we have an Australian. Close enough. We have a Californian and Australian and to make it international we have Alan Bowes of Langley. Ooh. British Columbia. Oh. You foiled me there. That was $240 from Lennox and $200 from Bowes and we've got a couple of comments here. Apparently

06:38 Lennox had a his girlfriend was ill and she's feeling better now. He's got a new job and a Significant salary increase he credits that to the show really well, and then We'll take that credit. Oh boy. You got it my spreadsheet got hosed, dude well, the notes are kind of unusable and we'll get to those probably uh... the other one that which are laying the friend allen bozes is unit contribute to his knighthood okay could you do since I don't have a spreadsheet. We'll format that and send it back. And then we'll read those at the producers break. Can you just give me the names again just so I have them here? Yeah, Scott Schoenberger, S-C-H-O-E-N-B-E-R-G-E-R. He's the executive producer. Yeah. Craig Lennox. Also executive? No, he's an associate executive. Craig Lennox, L-E-N-N-O-X. And Alan Bowes, A-L-L-A-N.

07:39 Bose B.O.S. he is in the speakers company. He may even be related to the speakers. He could be, could be. You never know. Okay. I didn't know there was a Langley British Columbia. No. There's a town in British Columbia called Spuzzum. So I'm giving a speech up there and the guy says, you know, I said, I don't know these Canadians don't laugh at a lot of my material. And the guy says to me, he says, uh, Hey, neither do us Americans. So don't worry about it. Just reference to town spasm and you'll get a huge laugh. Really? Yeah. So I went up, I was giving this speech and he says, yeah, it's kind of like living in spasm. Huge laugh. Really? Yeah. I don't know why. What is it about spasm? It must be some kind of a,

08:25 He's like Canadian jism joke or something. Or something. There's gotta be something like that. I guess, I don't know. And then no one would explain it to me of course. Ha ha ha. Hey, I want to say in the morning to Chris. He wrote in in the morning since Adam so kindly lauded the dice. Which by the way I think could just, that should be a saying that should just, we should just, hey man that guy just lauded the dice. I like lauded the dice. Lauded the dice. Yeah. What should it mean? It's like dooch. Yeah, but it has to have a meaning. Actually, it doesn't have to have a meaning. Hey man, did you see the president the other day? He really lauded the dice during that speech. And people just go like, I think it should mean kicked ass.

09:07 Well, then let's not use it in that context. I think I caught a new meme. Yeah. And I you know, we did actually have done this meme unwittingly, but I don't think we've done it in the negative way that that's going to be used. And I think people get out there can start watching for this. And I saw it first, I would have made the clip, but I was only thinking about this morning. And I said, Oh, my God, this is a meme. They're trying to work. and uh... it was the greater van cistern show and uh... newt gingrich was on and sester and i believe is actually no bomb a fan and so she's uh... she was such some about well-meaning in the isn't he is that the patriot and and newt went into this thing that was a was obviously setting up i think i believe is going to be used against the obama for the next two years

10:02 which is that obama means well he's a good guy oh yeah yeah yeah oh yeah he means well yeah he means well but the problem is he's only and it is he dropped every single bombing cases he's only was a senator for two years before he became president he doesn't know what he's doing these other guys are incompetent that he's hired he's hired just a bunch of cronies from chicago they don't know if thing about washing they don't know how it works he's just Driven into a ditch. He's he wants he's a good man. He's a he's a new patriot, but he's an idiot But he means well He means well, but it's not working. All right, so a lot of the dice now We'll have the hashtag LTD which of course is very nice So if someone does a great job and kicks ass they have lauded the dice. Oh

10:51 So Chris says, since Adam so kindly lauded the dice last episode, I've had more inquiries about the noagendadice.com project. The inaugural blue dice are completely sold out, but people have until November 30th to pre-order the new red dice. There you go. The red no agenda dice at noagendadice.com I get the dice the other day, they're actually kind of cool. They're very cool. They're like high quality. I think the red ones you could, you know, yeah, well actually the ones they use in Vegas are bigger. Yeah. And they're big and they're squared with a, uh, they're sharp. You can actually cut yourself. Yeah, yeah, these have rounded edges, right? I know. Yeah, these are more the kind that people use to play backgammon. Or craps on the street.

11:32 Or, Liar's Dice. This is a perfect Liar's Dice. What's Liar's Dice? That's where you see it. It's a bar game. It's like a poker game, only it's played with dice. And you have, you see these little things, a little leather cup. And you put the five dice in there, you shake, shake, shake, and you throw it on the bar. And then the two guys, they play a game of, kind of a quasi-game of poker. with the dice results and then they buy each other drinks very common bar game. Have we seen, have we heard from Sir Paul about the 10-10-10 coins? Not just at the posting, it's on his site. We're going to have to pester him again. Yeah, this is getting a little crazy.

12:12 anyway let me get a new the new spreadsheet came in its own formatted alright so let me let me thank our executive producer for this episode Scott Schoenberger of Malibu California which is great I hope he has a nice if he has a nice beach pad I'll be very cool I'll go visit him Associate executive producer Craig Lennox and Alan Bowes. Thank you very much the three of you We've chosen for a very challenging business model on no agenda people Always oh man. We had a whole email exchange again John and I someone says you guys you should do subscriptions It'll work much better, and you've got a hundred thousand times five or I would give you be rich. You'll be billionaires

12:53 No, it just doesn't work. Okay, it just doesn't work. We've tried these things this is the only model that works and we're hanging on by our fingernails, but And we'll be thanking other people with the different giving levels during our Before we go on with it with the final thank you bozes full note came in so I should read it a little bit of it go for it He's been distributing his no agenda business cards. Ooh, I in Belize, Mexico, Florida, Texas, California, Oregon, and Washington State as well as many in BC, Canada, my home. As my family is thinking of disowning me, as they see me inserting the cards into books, magazines, and electronics packaging as I shop. Excellent. I like that. I would be interested in knowing if my efforts have generated more listeners. If any of the listeners have seen one of the cards, please email me at noagenda at live dot c a. Cool.

13:48 That's a Canadian dot com is dot CA. and let you know where he saw him. This is like putting stuff in... shove a few in a bottle and throw it into the Pacific too. Maybe they'll come back in a foot. Alright. So again, Scott Schoenberger, Craig Lennox, Alan Bowes, thank you all very much. We really appreciate your giving level. As executive producers, it's an actual credit we will vouch for you. That's how it works, unlike Hollywood where it's all fake, but the model is similar. Everybody else out there, you need to go out and do something very important, which is propagate our formula. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. New World Order. Alright everybody, say it with me now. Shut up, slave! Who do you think you are? Shut up, you slave. I think I'm gonna do this, do this. I like this idea of just getting a bunch of business cards. You know, you can go to Vistaprint and they let you print cards for free, although you have to have a little vistaprint.com thing on there.

14:58 But you can get these cards printed up for free and just have a bunch of different cards printed up for free and grab them. You can scratch off the Vista print thing if you want to. And then just go to Best Buy or Safeway, you're in the produce section. Just drop the cards all over the place. Gee, you're such a radical, John. That's a great idea. You're such an anarchist, my friend. My card. You are such an anarchist. I am. I'm completely out of control. So, um, wowie wowie wowie. You know what? Something very interesting happened. I went out and voted in our general election here in Gitmo Nation proper.

15:40 And, which was kind of cool by the way, because I filled out my absentee ballot and I figured I'd just do all the work at home. Which is a lot of work by the way for California. This is a huge amount of things you've got to vote on, and even with the wonderful booklet, there's still a large portion of things you're voting on that you have no information on. like you know the justices, do you want him in or not, people from districts, I never heard of these people I couldn't find any information. So I just said no to all of those. And then my polling place according to voteLA.net was someone's garage right around the corner on the way to Burbank which is kind of cool that felt you know in a way like really patriotic and you know like it's cool people got a flag hanging out the garage doors open and that you know that's where you go and cast your vote and I just dropped off my

16:30 my ballot. But on the other hand it felt kind of Iraq. You know, it's like I was waiting, where do I dip my finger in the ink? Yeah, the purple do- So you're telling me that I'm dropping this thing off with you people and someone's actually going to count this? Yeah, that didn't feel very good. And then I wake up the next morning And I had a really, really busy day so I actually paid no attention to any election coverage whatsoever and as it went along I'm like, I really gotta watch TV, I really gotta see what's going on. I thought, you know what? I'm just not gonna at all. I figured you might have some analysis on it. But here's where my brain fried. So we had two propositions in California. One was 19 for legalization of marijuana, which did not pass.

17:16 But then a large margin I might add right but then here's the crazy thing the Proposition I think it was are you clipping your nails? Are you clipping your nails? No, what is that? No, I'm denying it. Let's go on. I won't Disgusting it's the most I know if I were you and never clip my nails I would feel the same way I bet it's your toenails too. Are you clipping your toenails during the show? Yes, go ahead bad visual So the same voters who said no to marijuana said no to the proposition to stop all laws against the climate change, to repeal the climate change laws for California which will raise our electricity to astronomical amounts, electricity bills. It's just that somehow that dichotomy doesn't make any sense.

18:18 You know what I'm saying? You're in California, my friend. Yeah, but if you have... I would just expect that the people who want all this lovey-dovey climate change sciences in stuff, which is what that proposition was about, so not to repeal the amazing work we're going to do at raping everybody, Yet by the same large majority saying no to marijuana legalization who are these people? California these people they must be idiots And my brain just went clean just went on tilt. Okay. I don't I don't get it I don't understand so very very strange thing I you know what I'm gonna keep putting that marijuana thing on the ballot until it gets past is one of those things you'd all you do just pound it and

19:07 I think that this whole voting thing... Did you reword it so it would be decriminalization? That'll work. I just... I think the voting is rigged. Well, it could be. That marijuana thing was way off the mark. And also I think that Carly Fiorina thing was off the mark. Although I have to say, I've watched the... This is a little inside baseball for people outside of the state of California, but you have to imagine, I have this... You know, I have a video projector, which I got a new one that has a... It's about a 12-foot screen. He has one of those, the ones with the big, the red, the green and the blue lamp. So it has about a 12-foot screen now. And so you have to imagine a Carly Fiorina ad

19:51 She says blah blah blah, Boxer hasn't done anything and then her head appears. Taking up half the screen and in the case of my house that means the head is about six feet big. She has a giant head and she's in my living room! It's terrible and the worst thing is that her mouth and what comes out of it doesn't work right. It's like her mouth is saying one bad babble, her mouth is moving in a direction that doesn't account for what's coming out of it. And so it's very creepy. I think her own campaigns with her coming on the screen and talking to the camera, which a lot of experts say is a bad idea anyway, I think it costs her the election because she creeps you out.

20:34 Quite possibly. And I also think Meg Whitman lost because of her hairdo. This is California. We're in California for God's sake. These things make sense to me. Hairdos count. Yeah, that's true. I'm down with the hair. In fact, I was at some comedy thing recently and that's one of the big jokes. They were all going on and on about she should be on a Quaker Oats box. I mean, it's one thing after another. Hey, I've become very famous with my hair. So yeah, hair matters in America in general, but in California in particular, absolutely. So these two women were idiots. Well anyway, so any general analysis post this election you'd like to share with the class?

21:21 Well, I was looking at it, I was trying to get something out of it. I mean obviously what everyone predicted would happen, happened, which is that the Republicans took back the House with a pretty good majority. Let me ask you a question because I didn't see this discussed. So with the pretty good majority, can Democrats, and by the way there's also other people in on Capitol Hill, it's not just Republicans and Democrats, it always sounds like those are the only two. Yeah, there are three independents included. Okay, so there's a start. Can Democrats now force a, whatchamacallit? Yeah, whatchamacallit is valid.

22:04 What are you talking about? You know, uh, uh, were they, were they, uh, a filibuster. Filibuster is different in the House than it is in the Senate. The Senate is where those filibusters take place. And no, you can't, anybody can do a filibuster now because there's not enough votes in the Senate. There's only 52, I think. and uh... right house and that they do the house is really a legislation machine uh... and and the senate has to take you know they have to do houses grinds out bills constantly and it goes to the senate there are senate bills but most income from the house and uh... and they get the same as an in the senate you know has to deal with them there were rewrite ever do whatever they have to do before they go to the president and uh...

22:49 Essentially, no, it's got nothing to do with the filibuster thing. It's just the fact is that all the... What the big deal is, is why you want to win the House is so you can own all the committees because the majority party gets to have the head of every committee is now a Republican. And the head of the speaker of the House is now a Republican, so he can control the pacing. He can tell people, yeah, you can keep talking for the next two days or you can shut up. So they... it's basically a very... it's a good position to be in because then you can dominate. Right, but they're still all douchebags all of them. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Are you kidding? No, what would that change? Nothing's gonna change, right? They're gonna by the way understanding and put a statue of the aqua Buddha in the foyer

23:33 Yeah, great. Okay, so you have basically no analysis. No, there's no analysis to be had. It was all pre-predicted. It came out just like they said it would. The two boneheads... I do have one piece of analysis. The one thing that the Republicans apparently will not talk about and the Tea Party people will not talk about. And, but, and none of the, I watched all the different sides of it, and nobody wants to, I mean, the, the, the snidest of the commenters might discuss it a little bit, but they don't want to give credit where credit is due. And that is the two races which may have swung the, the whole Senate thing toward the Republicans, which was, and I believe this was set, almost a setup. And in fact, I do have a clip which kind of indicates it was something of a setup.

24:17 if you play the O'Reilly, there's a little analysis in here that I'll make up for it, and the clips O'Reilly and what's his name, Stephanopoulos, play this and a little kicker at the end. I started to hear some rumbling on Capitol Hill about this today among Senate Republicans, a little bit of a backlash against the Tea Party, they look at what happened in Nevada, they look at what happened in Colorado, they look at what happened in Delaware and say, had we had our our establishment candidates in those places we might be taking control of the Senate. I don't believe that. I mean Rubio did very well in Florida, Rand Paul very well in Kentucky. The folks are the folks. I don't buy that. And the Tea Party did bring a lot of energy to the Republican Party in this election which I think helped

24:59 overcome some of the negativities that the parties had. I think it was a Hispanic vote in Nevada. Marcia will agree with me, but you know I think that she hurt Angela, hurt herself with that kind of perception that she's anti-Hispanic. I agree with that. That's a tough line you got to walk. I mean I'm a person who really wants to crack down down on illegal immigration, but I don't want to persecute people. I don't want to demonize people. Yeah, and it really fueled her. It helped Harry Reid's extremist argument. You've got to also give him credit on pure political tactics. He practically hand-picked Sharon Engel as his opponent. Blahdy blahdy blah. He practically, you missed the... Yeah, I heard it. He practically picked Sharon Engel. Yeah, and because there was a very strong candidate that was running and she thought she was going to win, another female, but Engel somehow using the leverage of the Tea Party voters.

25:50 uh... got in and so did this o'donnell character and nobody would do one thing nobody wants to say is that the recent these two women lost is not because of anything other they would have won if there were other people that you have to be old-fashioned republicans But this they could have been tea party types, but the fact of the matter is these two women were dingbats They were both idiots. They were stupid. They're stooges. They were put in there were stupid and they were and they were told they were Karl Rove came out said they were stupid and he got slam-based Oh, he's but they're Republicans. You can't say anything bad, which I find to be abhorrent

26:25 But the point is that they had two dingbats and O'Dowd seemed like a really nice person. I mean she'd be like somebody you wouldn't mind hanging out with but she was stupid. And the fact is that the republic, no the public is not going to vote for people that are obviously stupid. Well so the only kind of analysis I have is you know after the fact stuff. So of course I, you know, I bounced back and forth between the cable news channels and it was just really interesting to see MSNBC and CNN and even CNBC to a degree, you know, basically saying, and even the president when he came out and did his little speech there, you know, essentially everybody, oh and also Bill Maher, everyone's saying, well, you know, the voters are stupid. You've been duped.

27:15 you were tricked, you're stupid. It's like wow, that's pretty insulting to tell your audience they're stupid. Yeah, no I think it's another mistake. Even the president is kind of like, it's kind of what he was inferring. Yeah, he says they were sucker punched. If he had done a better job of communicating, if he was out more, stumping more, it would have changed. He's never doing any work, that's all he does is go out and stump. Well, I think that you're and you were the first one to and for this you get a 10 John and you know the The whole concept of Obama now taking the fall. It's is kind of coming to fruition You know, he's he's taking the blame. It's all his fault you know, he takes responsibility and It's like it's like wow this this is the second part of the two-act play, you know, the first one was

28:07 Yes, we can and now hey man. I'll take the rap for that no problem, and did I not see on? CNN what's the crazy? New Orleans guy who's married who's married to the Republican Mary Mary Matlin what what's his name again? Oh Carvel yeah Carvel he or James Carvel oh He says, hey, you know, this is gonna be really interesting, the 2012 presidential race, there's all kinds of people that could pop up now. All kinds of people. Yeah, the Republicans. Yeah, well, but you know, we're... No, we already know it's Hillary for the Democrats. Let me play a little clip, John, of who a possible presidential candidate could be.

28:52 You will not believe your ears. Hip-hop royalty tells us he'd quite like a pop at the top job at the White House. Give me a chance, maybe eight years, I'll be the president. But first, the man who actually is at the top of the White House has been having a rotten day. Our US reporter Sima Kotecha is live in Atlanta, Georgia. That was Jay-Z, who who is now... Yeah, I figured that out. Yeah, is now running around saying, yeah, I could be president. This is another way, by the way, this is part of the overall scheme to, this is an associative, uh, neural linguistic program. Oh, yeah, NLP, sure, sure. So you do a little, you, this guy, now you got to, you don't have any other possible black candidates, so you bring this guy out and he wants to be the president, which

29:51 which lumps him in with Obama so now Obama is like knocked down two or three pegs he's not much better than a rapper. He's a hip hopper. He's a hip hopper, right, a hip hopper. And so he's just like a hip hop president that we could do without. And he's trying his best but what can he do? He's only a hip hop dummy. He's just a hip hopper, man. He can't do much more than that. This is a way to slam the guy. This stuff is so subtle and it's all over the place. I mean this guy is toast. I think that's why he's I'll tell you that when he did his press conference he was like he was like a deer in the headlight he was stammering. Oh yeah it was it was and long pauses that were just horrible. And I love all the uh the prepared uh and there's a word why it's called prepared uh questions yeah he went down his list he knows exactly who's going to stand up what they're going to say AP starts off and they were like these people were speaking to the president like he was Jay-Z he's like hey you fool

30:45 How come you deny you do not? Yeah, did you hear the one woman says it's just that you don't get it. Yeah, you don't get it I mean like whoa no one has ever spoken to a president like that in public in my recollection before I've never heard anything like it like what and you know he answered the questions Instead of me. Yeah, what is in he say what do you mean? I don't get it get the fuck out of here security remove remove this bitch! I know, but she was hot too. That's what was really bothersome. No, no, no, she was one of these kind of hot reporters and she was from I want to say NBC so yeah that was like wow. There is a hip hopper who I'd vote for as our president John actually. Who? Professor Griff from Public Enemy. Shall I give you a little sample of his platform?

31:39 Yeah, sure, so you know public enemy obviously you for yeah, of course everybody has okay professor Griff here He is just have a little listen of course He's talking a bit about the music industry, but it does pertain to you and I as well as good slaves This by the way is an outstanding interview you're talking about Barry There's a lot of good stuff. Did you say Barry? You talking about Barry? Yeah, Barack Obama. Because, you know, the black people of America know. They know that he's fake Obama. Barack Obama. Barry! We know Barry from the hood. He's the president of a corporation and he's not the president of the United States of America. Their logo is the Allstate Al. Now, to prove that, I always say in my lectures that if you find any watch ad in any magazine, the time is always 10-10.

32:36 Why simply because the District of Columbia is is designed ten square ten square miles. That's the little kooky, but here comes a good stuff. I can That's the government not everything else. That's what he's the president over a corporation What is the corporation's main? Entity that they buy sell and trade you are you following you are useless either to them You're sheeple. Are you following me? Your birth certificate is worth six thousand thirty six thousand six hundred six hundred and thirty four thousand dollars and this is what they use as collateral with Britain and that's the only thing that they run in America. You're a human resource. You understand what I'm saying? This is why you have no right. You're a human resource. You should be listening to our show. You following me? You're a human resource. You're nothing else but a human resource. I love it.

33:26 He's got all the right memes. Oh my I got some more for him later on in the show We have to follow up on this is a difficult to understand Well, not really. All you just have to do is follow him because you follow me but He has more about the the the music industry mafia. I can't help but follow that Have you been following any of that of the quades? as well i've followed the i'd this last week i read i did do a couple of quaid searches and saw what was going on to see what was you know what would but the latest was and i don't see it changing much in the show but a couple shows and they showed up on good morning america in an edited piece and they really just destroyed and make them look like absolute nut jobs and that's what you do and not one single mention of the of the lawsuit you know like well you know it seems like there are

34:18 You know, they're just running around chasing crazy agents and managers and lawyers and accountants and you know, they're delusional apparently. But but you know this is ABC Good Morning America No one can Google and see that they actually have filed a lawsuit and the names are in there and we've received a couple of interesting emails from Human resources out there who have actually fled the country from the music business. Yeah Yeah, one of them one of it was a regular a supporter is down in Argentina living it up and he's had problems with the same people apparently they got their claws into one of his companies and his patents and they tried to steal his patents and he took off with them and that was the end of it he feels he's fine but he thinks the whole US of A is like

35:09 crawling with these sorts of folks. And then, well, we might as well just run through it real quick. They call them just mafia, they're mobbed, mobbed up. It is the mob, but you know wherever there's money there's organized crime. That's like, yeah, that's pretty simple. We definitely won't be worrying about that. So a couple of interesting Michael Jackson tidbits. Of course my belief is Michael Jackson was, actually that's Professor Griff also says that. Michael Jackson was killed. Do you need you want to hear do you believe it? Yeah, I know. Let's hear Bobby. Whoa, so we don't go back to it Okay, but you know so it's an interesting point somebody because I tell you all the time you don't choose them So what he's doing here? He's he says that all the guys who are successful in hip-hop have taken the oath to

35:56 And the oath is, look, you can be successful, you're gonna make lots of money, tons of chicks, all the vodka you can sell and drink, but you've got to propagate anything but being a family. You've got to be gangster. It's all got to be gangster. You've got to be yelling around and causing trouble and just making a ruckus nuisance out of yourself. That's the oath and you'll stay successful and if you don't then you get whacked. So they had their eye on Nas for a long time. Now we can't sit here talking about Nas. They think for sure that they approached Nas, but I'm telling you, I'm on the bets of money that they did. Look at his career and some of the things that he was trying to do. You understand? On a street level, trying to survive in the industry. He was battling Jay-Z at the point where he flipped.

36:39 and sign with Jay. I'm like, wait a minute, dude. You just ate his ass alive with the ether. You understand what I'm saying? You want to go sign with your rival? Come on, something's up with that. See, that's the Galean dialectic principle. The Galean dialectic principle, John. Listen, this is actually a David Icke thing. Listen. You know, that's the three-step solution. Problem, reaction, solution. You know the same thing Kanye and 50 Cent did. Made us think that they were against one another when they started competing who was gonna sell the most records. See they probably in cahoots with one another to get that cheese, get it caked up. You understand what I'm saying? So what do you feel about like, so you feel like every artist who's in that money space, the Puff Daddies, the Jay Z's, the 50 Cent's, the Kanye's, the Eminem's, the Dr. Dre's, all these people, the Ice Cube's,

37:29 Are they a part of what's force feeding us with all this? Yeah, but they want to know and I want to look in the camera and tell them to their face, man, y'all ass is a peon. them crackers When them crackers the whole of your ass and they decide to do a wavy shoe like they did Michael Jackson I'm warning you I'm telling you they kill Michael Jackson got a bang right on why'd they kill Michael Jackson? You are done and your ass cannot come back to the hood and slick ass gay-ass puffy This is this is the now now it's amazing so now he's gonna talk so not only do they kill people for their money Which I I believe that's me. That's what the mob does

38:12 But now listen to what they're doing to the human resources who buy into all this. He's looking for some source material here. Mark Curry's book. Mark Curry talked about... Is there some books over there? No. But anyway, I know it. Mark Curry's book, Dancing with the Devil. How Puckie burned the bad boys of hip-hop. He talked about that, you understand what I'm saying? So when you talk about Puffy hiring these gay French and Italian and European white dudes to design his clothes, we found out that they had put an implantable bio-microchip inside the label. Hello? So apparently all of Puff Daddy's clothing is microchipped with RFID, John. Huh.

39:04 Okay, well Can we land this ship in one second so anyway so Michael Jackson two things of interest to note one is that Cirque de Soleil is now coming out with the immortal world tour with my featuring Michael Jackson's music and lots of semi naked chicks and So how convenient that is just take his take his all his money his work exact take his act and take it on the road and make some money off of that and of course, you know the Michael's music attorney who knew where all the skeletons were buried he married to Daisy Duke from Dukes of Hazzard He killed himself because he was so unhappy

39:49 And now dr. Arnie Klein his former dermatologist almost burned alive in his house this past week Yeah, they're dropping like flies. Yeah, yeah, yeah everybody who knows something is like all like people had died mysteriously after the Kennedy assassination Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah, I'm just saying all right backslash on that all right. We're done. Yeah, I think we made our point Yes, that's good. It'll do well then I guess the only well the point is when you see a guy like Randy Quaid who? Of course, you know, he has a couple strikes against him. He's played complete nut jobs in movies It's brilliantly by the way when you see that happening where he is being Where someone like that is just being vilified, you know, everyone's he's now a late-night monologue joke and

40:39 oh yeah yeah Randy Quaid that kook that nut is the way it works yeah great that's exactly the way it works that's one of the movies that should be on the no agenda entertainment that one of their entertainment site should be the movie Fahrenheit 451 oh yeah it's a great which which brings this concept of you know kind of coordinated vilification of people who kind of go against you know Go against whatever power is that you're whatever you're labeled nuts. You're labeled crazy Yeah, which is why my strategy is so good. I just say it up front. I'm nuts. I'm a crackpot That's I'm that's it this you can't hurt me because I'm already I already Realize what I am not a problem there. I did upon your recommendation watch Paris 1919 on the military channel, ah

41:29 Wow! What a fantastic... Actually, Miss Mickey watched it with me. What a fantastic documentary. It's the best. I mean, that thing should win awards, but of course nobody's heard of it. Well, what's so outstanding is... Why aren't they playing that on PBS? Yeah, I don't know although a very I'm glad I DVR did because it gets interrupted a lot by commercials for The one my favorite was now the Second World War in color They've colorized the World War two, but yeah when you when you see that man is it's like wow now at least I know why World War two started and

42:08 Well that's pretty obvious. We just didn't know the details. Well you'd be amazed how much or actually how little one really realizes and of course I have a little, there's a slight generation gap between you and I so my education was probably much poorer than yours. And there's a lot of stuff. I'm like, huh, really? Oh, wow. I didn't know that and you know and I love how it's interspersed with real footage and and real pictures and yet some dramatization in there and Yeah, Wilson, what a dick total dick he is right Well in my good company

42:51 Which is the reason that they will never show this on PBS because Wilson, because I was raised, you know, like you said, right after World War II and when the schools and everything was all, you know, before the idea came about we should make these people stupid because, you know, this dumbed down these kids because this is the group, you know, that went and started rioting in Berkeley and every place else saying this is bull crap. So I was educated, but it was still a liberal education, even though I had a fifth grade teacher who was a Republican. But generally speaking, it was mostly Democrat teachers. And they, I'm telling you, it was drummed into me that Woodrow Wilson was as great, and my dad was the same, who was a Democrat. Same thing, Woodrow Wilson was the greatest guy ever. He's an intellectual, he's from Princeton, he was the president of Princeton and all the rest of it. And one of the smartest presidents we've ever had.

43:45 and all the rest of it. What was amazing to me is you're watching this and you realize that the whole thing was about money and was about land. It's like they had a thousand map makers during this six-month period and be like, hey I know what let's draw a big kind of thing here. Oh that's now Iraq. You know they were calling the shots on where the borders were what countries owned what countries they made up new countries They made up whole new countries. Yeah, Iraq being a good because you don't understand. It's hard for us. It's certainly hard for me to imagine That you know this this German Reich is

44:23 really encompassed so much and then you know they said all right we're gonna carve this up we're gonna take this away from him and then you get the the Italian Prime Minister saying you know you know we need our port we need our harbor and we need that you know we got to have the Adriatic Sea and every and you know and Japan says we want this piece of China and they were all just there negotiating meanwhile in the back streets of Paris everyone was buying weapons It was like a big arms dealer conference. It's a great documentary. Oh my goodness. And NoahJenTheTV.com, they have a slew of clips about the movie. You can bone up on it, but it's still running I think on the Military Channel. Unfortunately, still no BitTorrent available or we'd post a link to that as well. And I think it's old, sufficiently old enough that

45:09 It'd be okay to just download that. Well, luckily the Military Channel is still showing it. In fact, the Military Channel had a 10-part series on World War I from the beginning to the end, which is also quite good. And the problem is that they don't show it in order. You'd be looking at the Military Channel as a program guide and then they'd like on Tuesday at 10 they'll have part 7 and then the next Monday they'll have part two. Well that's kind of how they run their wars. You know, they run their wars out of order too. And you just do this like start at midnight and run it until you know the ten parts or ten hours. Run it till 10 in the morning or a couple of nights between 3 a.m. and 7 a.m. or something like that. And because I have what I've been doing is DV, I only saw that about three of them. And I've been DVRing the whole thing and I have it I have like one, two, three, four, five,

46:01 six, seven, nine, or I think nine and ten and I think I'm missing eight, maybe five I might be missing that too. It's just like, oh brother, it's like an ordeal. But they've got a lot of good stuff on that channel. Yeah, yeah, yeah, military channel. Very interesting. And it's funny because there's another channel that's floating around which is less popular because it's actually more of a propaganda channel even though I'm sure the military channel is in some way. But the Pentagon channel. Right, right, right. We've talked about that in the past. I have to give you another 10-pointer, John. You called it, you coined it,

46:38 And boy, it was probably... there were two links that were most emailed this week. And this was one of them. Alcohol more harmful than heroin. I love that one. So we should have done this story last Sunday. We forgot to know that I don't think this had come out on Sun. I think this came out Sunday afternoon Yeah, yeah, it was last. No, no, we would have been all over this now. You're confused old man. You're confused. I might be So now I think we should do a little deconstruction on this first maybe you should reassert for the new listeners the

47:14 your coinage of the term, it was new to me at least, of neo-prohibitionism. Yeah, neo-prohibitionism. There's been a movement afoot to re-establish prohibition laws in the United States and the way you do that is by demonizing drink as much as you can. Now why would people want to prohibit the intake of alcohol? Why would that be? Well you have to go back to the original prohibition movement and it always turns out to be well because people, some people, you know, they, well the rationale is whether you get in a car and you drive and you kill somebody

47:50 But there just seems to be it's it which seems to be underlying the whole thing seems to be a control issue It's harder to control. That's why the entire Muslim world doesn't drink. It's harder to control people when they're hammered when they're here what you're going to be hammered a lot of people one drink and they can see that see that something's bogus yeah i think i have a clip called which is god if they must had memos come into them off the did for running this is a very obscure story that ran on a couple of news stations then there was buried but uh... it's very interesting i think it says something about the about drinking a this subtly agreed to play the clip drink up

48:29 All right, Jen and Brian, bottoms up. Yes, bottoms up. You know why? Because a new British study claims smarter people drink more. Well, I could have told you that. Yeah, how about that? Researchers found that children who were classified as intelligent when they were young grew up to be adults who drank alcohol more frequently and in greater quantities than less intelligent people. Basically, smarter kids end up drinking more. So why? Why are we putting this on here? Their verdict is out on that one. Researchers add that information. Yeah, drinking more will certainly not make you any more smarter than you already are. Holy crap John, great find. What study was this that... I couldn't find this study. That is phenomenal.

49:12 So the other thing is that you notice the black guy who's the you know who's the this is one of those shows that's like a morning clone show done somewhere. Yeah, everybody. And I found on some very everybody. Good morning. Hey, did you know the drink it makes you smarter? Hey, there was 35 degrees. So this black guy says who's the you know, the stew? He must do the weather. Why are we airing this? He says right in the middle of it. Like we shouldn't be telling anybody about this. This is bad. Don't say this. Heaven forbid. So he was obviously, he's already sold out this guy. So one thing, even though he doesn't know it, the one thing we'd like to explain to our human resources who follow this program is how, if you want to get in the news and any good PR company will tell you this, any good one,

49:57 and I've heard it said to me verbatim in fact when we were trying to get podcasting off the ground we'd hire and for short periods of time believe me we'd hire a PR company some really good ones like you know what are the good ones like Slate PR you know guys like this like not Helen Knowlton who does the High Speed Rail Association they'll say the best way to get something into the news is to come up with a study some form of survey that has astounding results and then make a press release out of that and if you can attach some kind of legitimacy to it like a professor or a university and of course you can essentially you can poll and extrapolate results any way you want to as long as the headline reads properly that is what gets picked up by news organizations that's how it works so then you get this professor David Nutt

50:52 Which is I mean if that's not a hint right there Then I don't know what is sure it's with double-t from the Independent Scientific Committee on drugs who created this survey and the stirve and the survey says as it ranked 20 drugs on 16 measures of harm to its users and to society as a whole. Heroin, crack, and crystal meth were deemed the worst for individuals with alcohol, heroin, and crack cocaine, the worst for society, and alcohol worst overall. So, um, for... Yeah, worst... Wait a minute, let's get this straight. Very simple. Let me give you that summary again. Alcohol is worse than heroin, it's worse than crack. Yes.

51:42 Yeah, it's for yes. Alcohol wins. It wins as being the worst. Now what I always do, and of course this is always difficult, is I then go search for the actual study. You know, because usually they have like 700 people, you know, it's like, alright, this is not like some huge study like they've had people working for 20 years on coming up with this. So you've got to look into the Independent Scientific Committee on Drugs, which is at drugscience.org.uk. And very interesting, if you... by the way, they must be a completely legitimate organization because they have a donate button. Donate. But David Nutt was, I believe, the drug czar in the Gitmo Nation East and he got thrown out

52:39 He was thrown out of government because he was propagating some formulae and he had ties to the pharmaceutical industry. So he had huge conflict of interest. And then he, here I actually have the article here, this, when was he thrown out? He was thrown out, this is from January 2010. uh... so now we're going back almost the beginning of the year the scientist sacked by british government for allegedly criticizing government drugs policy today made good on his promise to set up his own committee to investigate and publicize the science of recreational drugs we will prove provide the truth about drugs unfettered by any political interference at david not of imperial college london and the former head of the government's advisory committee on the misuse of drugs

53:32 until he was asked to leave last October by home office minister. So this guy basically set himself up a year ago telegraphing to the world like, hey I'm here, I'm open, all you got to do is, hey who's bidding the most? Oh the neo-prohibitionists, come on in, what kind of study do you want bitches? I'll make it for you. This guy's corrupt. totally corrupt you think yeah but you know no one does any work on this and you know it's just I mean my gosh I must have received 50 different links to this story yeah everybody sent it in and no one actually only we'd have one one producer who did a lot of work on finding all these different articles

54:17 and uh... you know that you know i don't want to send people for not getting into any details because it's so preposterous I'm not condemning anybody but it just just no I know but you should but I'm saying it's so preposterous I don't think anybody would bother to look up the face it's just the guy isn't you know his name says it all yeah but it's taken for fact now that's the problem now everyone's like oh yeah I'll call the worse for me what it's there I don't think it's been taken for a fact yes of course it's been it's been no yeah we're laughing it off But most people, regular human resources, they're like, yeah, that's right, man. Alcohol, it kills more than you know, man. That's right. Science is in, brother. What you talking about? The guys also must be into psychedelics because he's got psilocybin at the very bottom of the list and LSD at the very bottom of the list. Yeah, and those are the best. And mushrooms is all the way down.

55:14 Yeah, that's psilocybin. But that's, isn't that just shrooms? What do you mean psilocybin? That's what psilocybin is. And butane. Hey man, have you been snorting butane? I don't know what the butane thing is. Have you been snorting butane? Butane? I saw that on there too and I went, butane? Stop sniffing the butane. Somebody take a cigarette lighter and inhale it. Stop sniffing the butane, man. Yuck. But it's interesting, harm to others Is kind of funny. Cannabis has quite a large percentage of harm to others. What are you doing when you're on cannabis? You're not running around shooting. You're making people eat the jelly sandwiches. I don't know. You're not running around shooting people. You're not shooting any. You're making people watch cartoons. Hey man, turn off the cartoons. I'm sick of them. I never saw this Tom and Jerry before. Oh, you're dating yourself. It would be The Simpsons, my friend.

56:09 Oh, speaking of the Simpsons, we're almost at the second half of the show so maybe I can lay this on you. In circles I often frequent, there is a significant and there's a video actually. video of the Simpsons. You know how a lot of these, you know, there's a lot of so-called evidence in movies and TV shows about, you know, that they were telegraphing 9-11 and other false flag events. Apparently November 6, 2010 there will be some form of nuclear false flag explosion and the Simpsons have predicted this. It's in the Simpsons episode.

56:53 Which is November 6th. Yeah, November. Let me get the pad out. The president coincidentally will be abroad. He will be. Of course. And you know what? That's no coincidence. He's always abroad. But you know what? You know, this is kind of interesting, this trip he's taking. So it's being hailed as the longest trip ever. You know, and of course some people are saying he's getting out on time. So he's going to Mumbai. He's also going to go to Indonesia, but he's going to Mumbai and he's actually staying in the hotel where the Mumbai attacks took place. Yeah, what's the point? I mean, everyone says, well we don't want to see a Mumbai attack, you know, in the USA, so okay, well let me just go to Mumbai. I mean, it doesn't make any sense this whole trip. What's the point of this trip? Oh, I'll tell you what the point of the trip is. He is taking with him 215 CEOs

57:47 And he'll be speaking at a conference there. Basically, he got a gig is what it is. He'll be speaking at the... He got a speaking gig. Yeah, it's the Business Summit in Mumbai which is sponsored by USIBC, which I think is a financial institution, is it not? USIBC. Yeah, USIBC. It's the US India Business Council. So it's a... That sounds like a front for something. Oh yeah, of course. You can find it at USIBC.com. Not dot-gov, but dot-com. So this is kind of interesting though. And he's not gonna stop by Pakistan at all. And there's all kinds of

58:42 political... Well you know, you know, it might be... remember the situation where he was dropping... stopping off here and there on the side? You had documented all these flights? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, right. Oh yeah, yeah, I remember we did that. It's possible that could be going on this time. He may be actually... this whole trip might be about him going to Pakistan. No, I think he's just got a speaking gig. I don't think he's gonna do anything more important But but it's actually costing us quite a bit of money according to well the rumor is is 200 million dollars a day Which makes absolutely no sense? There's no way you can spend that kind of money daily, but I'm on a trip, but I will say if you had if you Rent out for security purposes of course the entire Mumbai

59:31 uh... which hotel is it's what's the name of the hotel the charge yeah that mean that is going to be pretty costly is not only two hundred million but it's that's gonna cost a lot of money might be a couple mill it's more than a suite at the ritz carlton okay now the presidential suite so it by themselves cost twenty grand a night in any any upscale hotel so that's not the same as two hundred no i i i mean that that's that's maybe needs a two hundred because that's the daily bribe I just have to say, I think it's interesting that he's going to India, staying in Mumbai and speaking at this business conference.

1:00:18 Did you see the talking about the Simpsons? There was one episode where somebody I forgot one of the characters It wasn't one of the regular characters, but some guest character comes in at the very end They're closing the current guy says he says bye everybody bye everybody 9-11 was an inside job. No No, I didn't see that. It's pretty funny. I didn't see that um I don't know, we'll have to deconstruct what happened with this meeting in India after it's over. Well there is some interesting news right nearby and this is, this really, I didn't see any news about this at all. There was a joint military action between the United States of Gitmo and Russia and this I find interesting, along with the Afghan military, they carried out a joint raid and raided four heroin labs

1:01:12 right on the border there of Afghanistan and Pakistan, which is huge. Okay, well let me, can I ask a couple questions since you'd like to follow this part of the story? Yes. One, we know, we're going to stick with our theory that the CIA brings most of the heroin and a lot of it's going to Russia, but is it possible that the stuff going to Russia is not really CIA heroin and somebody else who need to stop because their competition? And so the Russians and the US got... Yes, I think you're... Bingo! I think you've got a great point there because why else would the military from Russia and the United States, pretty unprecedented cooperation there. Well, we cooperated in World War II. Yeah, that was a while ago. Excuse me. You know, I haven't heard this recently like, hey, we just, you know, we teamed up with the Russkies, we went in there and we grabbed four heroin labs.

1:02:09 So I think you're onto something there by saying, wait, if the CIA runs it, these guys, because yeah, Russia according to some reports uses 21% of the world's heroin supply. Maybe they were tired of buying it from the CIA, said, hey, we can go get that shit ourselves. Because, you know, heroin is great for the mob and organized crime. They can do a lot with it. Yeah, apparently on the dangerous drug list it's, meh, not into it. Yeah, it's not all that bad. But they, a metric ton of heroin. So of course Russia could use this to pay off the mob. Maybe the Russians are pulling a CIA deal, KGB or whatever that new agency is. Well here's crackpot Eric from Portland's Theory.

1:03:03 He says, how about this, try this on for size. Russia could use this heroin to pay off and influence the Russian mob to secure cooperation from the construction industry in completing the 2014 Olympic village and to solidify the shadow integration of the Russian mob under Putin's control. By helping Putin solidify his control over Russian's shadowy economy, The US more closely allies itself with Russia, which of course is key in any future conflicts with China or Iran. I like that theory. Yeah, well especially with Iran. The other thing going on in Russia of course is that guy who they threw in jail some time ago who ran the oil industry. Oh yeah. And they set him up. He's starting to make an awful lot of noise. Yeah, he's got to be careful. They're gonna kill him. Yeah, it could happen. Two to the head, gun to the head. Meanwhile, since we're on this topic, this is kind of similar, then we can go to our break.

1:03:52 which is replay this this did you know about this this talking about you know the Americans and the Russians working together whoever expected this one the French and the Brits play the clip this is France Bastille Day a celebration of its armed forces This is Britain, its streets lined for soldiers returning from the front line. Two nations with great military traditions. Now the sons and daughters of Napoleon and Nelson are on the verge of forging a military partnership unlike anything they've tried before. Tomorrow the British and French governments will sign new defence and security cooperation treaties which will be laid before Parliament in the usual way. This is about the European army.

1:03:03 He says, how about this, try this on for size. Russia could use this heroin to pay off and influence the Russian mob to secure cooperation from the construction industry in completing the 2014 Olympic village and to solidify the shadow integration of the Russian mob under Putin's control. By helping Putin solidify his control over Russian's shadowy economy, The US more closely allies itself with Russia, which of course is key in any future conflicts with China or Iran. I like that theory. Yeah, well especially with Iran. The other thing going on in Russia of course is that guy who they threw in jail some time ago who ran the oil industry. Oh yeah. And they set him up. He's starting to make an awful lot of noise. Yeah, he's got to be careful. They're gonna kill him. Yeah, it could happen. Two to the head, gun to the head. Meanwhile, since we're on this topic, this is kind of similar, then we can go to our break.

1:03:52 which is replay this this did you know about this this talking about you know the Americans and the Russians working together whoever expected this one the French and the Brits play the clip this is France Bastille Day a celebration of its armed forces This is Britain, its streets lined for soldiers returning from the front line. Two nations with great military traditions. Now the sons and daughters of Napoleon and Nelson are on the verge of forging a military partnership unlike anything they've tried before. Tomorrow the British and French governments will sign new defence and security cooperation treaties which will be laid before Parliament in the usual way. This is about the European army.

1:04:44 This is about... No, this is... I don't think so. I think it might be about starting the European army. No, no, this is the French, the Brits ganging up on everybody else. In case the Germans attack. This is so funny. When the Germans want the European army, this is their defense. This is so interesting because in the Paris 1919 movie, at the very beginning, I forget the exact line, maybe it was... It was Clemenceau or one of those guys. He says, oh, no, it was Wilson. Somebody said the old way is you make these alliances. Yes, and then you go fight other alliances. Then you go fight other alliances. And Wilson said, no, you need the League of Nations. You don't need any of that because that's the way it used to be done. We don't do it that way anymore. We shouldn't be. And then we went in and we all fought Germany and Russia and Japan. Right. We did exactly the same thing. So it's happening all over again. Cool.

1:05:31 follows the same principle partnership yes giving away sovereignty no partnership yes giving away sovereignty no and no one even asked you about that thanks for bringing it up so what's being looked at aircraft carriers both countries in the future will have just one the french defense minister said that the carriers could be used for joint operations Then there are plans for a rapid reaction force, both nations fighting alongside each other, perhaps with British forces under French command. Against who? Wait a minute, some French dude is saying something important. And both countries see potential for savings in sharing nuclear testing facilities. And ministers have also spoken of refueling each other's planes.

1:06:29 In the pie. Refueling each other's planes. Hey, Frenchie! I need some fuel! Oh Sacrebleu, would you like some stinky cheese with that? Come on down! Us British and French troops have fought side by side but there is of course another history. I'm standing in front of Napoleon's tomb. The heroes of France have sometimes been the enemies of Britain. So there is some unease about such a close military partnership but there is also an understanding there is little alternative. It's quite clear, it tells us that we are in decline. It's obvious, I mean, and it's not just now. It's been going, it's a long process that's been going on for almost the end of the Cold War. I agree with you John, I think this is actually, this is like a huge middle finger to Gitmo Nation Deutschland.

1:07:22 Well, and the EU, and that's why the interesting line in there, and you caught it, which was a volunteered comment, we're not giving up our sovereignty. Well, if you're in the EU, you are. Wow. Yeah, this is, yeah, well, they gave up, everyone gave up their sovereignty with the signing of the Lisbon Treaty. It's just they didn't realize it and they weren't allowed to vote on it. except for Ireland and kept going back at the leprechaun. So the French and the British at least at some level got a clue and said well yeah they're preparing for what may be inevitable. The inevitable civil war. I was you know I was talking with Mickey about this last night we're sitting outside and you know she says you know because she gets tired of me from time to time.

1:08:08 She says, you know, you see things and it's all a scam and it's all a setup and you know, and it'll never change. I said, ho ho ho ho ho. I said, of course it's gonna change, but we have to have some actual bloodshed. And history is filled with examples of this, that things do change. But remember again in that Paris 1919 documentary, that House that was advising, not the House on Fox obviously, but this guy House was the advisor to Woodrow Wilson. Yeah, and he got kicked out. Well he did eventually because he started doing some stuff on the side. He was doing his own deals. He told Wilson he shouldn't even go to Europe, he said these people don't know anything about shooting each other.

1:08:49 I think, you know, but you would agree with me that history has shown us that eventually war is what changes things. European history, yes absolutely and you would bring that up because you have a European background. Yeah. It's always the way to fix things. Shoot some. And nothing will change in Gitmo Nation here until Well I think we have to have like 80% unemployment, of course on television they'll say like 12. And when everyone was a good documentation on unemployment shows it to be around 22% real right now Yeah, that's real 22% unemployment. So this is what I'm saying like it'll have to go above 50 But then on television, it'll be 12 actually when it gets to above 35 people start getting really irked Yeah, I mean, but but it's not it's not it's I was thinking about this, you know when I was growing up in the 70s and

1:09:43 You know you would see all the time, you'd see the angry Brits with sticks and clubs roaming the streets, you know all pissed off and who knows what they were pissed off at but they were pissed off. And then you'd see the squatters in Amsterdam throwing smoke bombs at the SWAT teams and you know people were up in arms and there was revolution and now all those people who are doing that, they're in government! Yeah, they're the idiots running the show. Yeah, well, it's sad. It's really about running the show Yeah, let's give some kudos to some people who help us run this show. How's that for a segue? Yeah, let me give you a little in the morning job there John by the way, there's no there's no agenda shots at no agenda shots calm. Those are so great people should be Go to no agenda shots calm

1:10:36 link to these, they're YouTube videos but they're little segments of our show like three-minute segments. Oh right, right, no agenda shots, yeah. And sometimes they even, you know, they even have like pictures that change if we do a sound clip and I think Marcus Couch has done a video montage opening where you see like all these hypodermic needles flying at you for no agenda shots. It's cool man, this is the way to propagate the formula. But it does not pay our bills. How's that for a segue? You're trying to top me. Brownwyn Bell out of Sydney, New South Wales, Australia. I would like to remain anonymous. Thank you very much, John. Oh, shit. You know, I should start reading from the left-hand side. So anyway,

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1:16:35 I've had that Sarah Palin in her action in 2008, it's not cool to view her as a human. What? Well I think this is where I said, you know, look she's an intelligent beautiful woman and it's amazing, it's like anti-feminist, it's crazy what's going on. Oh yeah. Whether you want to vote for her or not, but the eye rolling thing, that's what 10-21 was. So you know what, we appeal to women with that and rightfully so because it's been bothering me for a long time. Yeah, no, they, there's, yeah, I agree. I don't want her as my president either, but that's not the point. The TV show Chuck frequently uses nothing to see here and for I'm, really, and for I'm totally irritated that I can never find stuff you've talked about in the show notes. What? No, that's not true. I.E. a TSA opt-out script. Well, we don't have the script. You must have promised. No, I said I was, I was looking for the manual

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1:19:24 Oh, I'm talking about his name. Oh, I thought you meant the place. Coonan. Okay. Eduard Coonan. When you mention my name on the show, just call me Ed. He needs de-douching. Yeah, he needs a witness protection program now. We suck, John. Hey, Eric, come on, man. You know, I know it was a rough night, but... Raleigh Hawg. We can't be doing this. You know, I protect our sources when they send me information, but this is really bad i mean people you know i know i'll talk a little bit he's not the socks man sucks and is your end of the city is he just isn't wanted today was there is in colin ed or edward in a break your your risk just call me at your responsible for the money and uh... and and the only reason and i want to take a look at it okay okay you're complaining too much probably hot and i'll annoy fifty dollars that thanks for the show i had the idea of bringing in more money

1:20:20 You could send a level for weekly donations and do a bonus show every week. We have enough trouble doing these two shows. But we're gonna do it. I have an idea. Wait, let me get the last guy down and we can talk about it. Patrick Sullivan, Sturgeon County, Alberta, which means they must have fish. Yeah, salmon. No, sturgeon. Oh, that's caviar. Caviar comes from sturgeon, no? Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm thinking. So I had an idea, John. So here's what, I'm really busy with this big app show. So I'm gonna take a risk and I'm gonna hire someone to do all the editing. That'll basically free up 95% of my life that it goes into. It's a lot of work, particularly because I'm now on Android and the iPhone. It's a lot of work, shooting, editing, the whole thing. So I'm taking the risk by hiring someone. That'll be my own personal risk, not for the show.

1:21:19 And what I'd like to do as you know Mickey has given up the the gym She is lovingly given up the gym for me to make my new crackpot command center. What was that? Oh, yeah? Yeah, so if she gets fat it's it's a your fault John. She's not gonna get fat. She's got too much self-esteem You have too much self-esteem. You'll never get fat. Yeah, okay? Alright, so anyway, so the the gym it let's just say the gym is not overused here So we're gonna throw all the equipment out and that's gonna become the crackpot command center It'll be studio only so not office but studio only and I'm thinking of doing DNA wait wait wait wait You're not gonna keep like one machine or something. Oh, yeah, we'll move the machine out Yes, well the treadmill is gonna go somewhere else so we can still use it But I'm thinking DNA daily no agenda

1:22:09 and uh... every morning like weekdays nine o'clock a hop on for an hour but i'll do a little different format you know i'll do some no agenda shots a place in music uh... you may be that'll be the finally the place where interview somebody and i think that you know as i devolves you may become interested you may want to join in but i think that are uh... that the continuity of the nine a m Gitmo nation broadcast may actually bring in more listeners It'll be more kind of like the stuff that we've been talking about or stuff We're going to talk about so not you know I obviously I can't do a no agenda without you But just to kind of keep it going and keep people interested and bring some Something in that people can tune into you know I'm saying you follow it sounds like the daily source code to me No, the daily source code is just music

1:22:59 is just music. But this is only gonna be half music. You love music. Yeah, of course. It's very important and there's a lot of great music out there that has some interesting messages. You like the idea? I mean, I think we could bring in some more listeners. Well, you know, I think it's worth trying. I just don't want it to cheapen the real show and here's my real concern. I do have a concern. I have a concern that you'll bring something up on the Daily Show that you will think that you've talked about on the real show. That risk is of course there. Yeah, I agree. And it will screw up the show because they'll say, no, no, we didn't talk about this. Oh yeah, no, I remember talking about it.

1:23:39 or you know I'm already sick of this story so talk about it right so first of all the between the two of us the person who really kind of gets a little confused with what we've talked about when would be you but now it's a valid it's a value just that you're projecting it's a valid point It's a valid point. I'll just say it's an experiment. I'd like to try it. And by the way, if it's true what you said just now, that if it is me, then you're just going to make me so confused I'll be flat, I just won't be any good. You'll be useless. Useless. Well, then the... I don't remember talking about that. The obvious alternative is for you to join in and we do it together. You know, like an hour. I'm not talking three hours. I'm talking like an hour. Yeah, I think I'll come on once in a while. All right. Should we just call it an experiment?

1:24:25 Let's the main thing is it has to bring in more revenue because I'm dying over here How you doing up in in northern get mo nation west yeah exactly Exactly not doing too well and uh... you know anyway well people by the way can go to did vorac dot org slash in a we had a week show once and i'm absolutely convinced that's cuz we never mentioned this to vorac dot org slash in a to look at the donation page also uh... no agenda show dot com which is you go to anyway no agenda show dot com at which has a donation thing and click on and also devote channeled or act dot com slash in a

1:25:06 It's very important and we'll see how it goes. I think it would be best if I got you involved. And I think that if I just start doing it... Then you'll just get pissed off you'll be like what the I have to be a part of this and if you jump in then maybe our human resources will support us to a different level we'll get some more of the choir since we're still at a 99% DB ratio only 1% of the listeners is donating to the show but man do we love that 1% particularly the people who are on the $5 a month and and also donate additional funds at higher giving levels. And by the way, do check your PayPal account once in a while because they do pull these things routinely. So this is a clip I have to play in its entirety once and then I can pull little snippets from it to use throughout the show.

1:25:55 Hello, I'm George Takei and over the years I've spoken out on civil rights issues from the Japanese American internment to Proposition 8 in California. Did you know by the way that George Takei who was a Sulu from Star Trek that he was in an internment camp in World War II? No. Yeah, his family was thrown into a Japanese internment camp. And he was a kid? Yeah. How about that, huh? Yeah, exactly. The recent suicides of LGBT youths across the country from anti-gay bullying compels me to speak out again, in particular against Clint McCance, a school board member in Arkansas who publicly encouraged gay kids to kill themselves. Mr. McCance has since resigned and claims he regrets saying things like, I enjoy the fact that they often give each other AIDS and die.

1:26:48 Mr.. McCann's you are a douchebag sounds like I just want to pull that you are a douchebag That's a good one. Yeah, this he has even better one coming up. That's right That's right No person let alone an elected school official whatever their personal or religious beliefs should ever wish death upon another human being You apologize for your poor choice in words, but you are always going to be a total douchebag. I can- I love him. He is so fu- Have you not seen this?

1:27:33 No, I didn't even know this was floating around. Oh, he's very yeah, he did his video and so anyway, I won't play the whole thing but there's a little funny clip coming up and he says exactly what of course is probably true and what always happens. I only suspect that you have some shall I say issues to work out. So I've gone and bought this countdown clock. I predict that sometime soon you will find yourself in the headlines again. This time caught with a rent boy from some South American country. He's probably right. Yeah, well of course. People, have we not seen this time and time again? Yes, absolutely. Politicians against gay marriage, you know, are smoking tubes in the dark. Well, you know, as part of the

1:28:25 I have kind of a, I can segue to another topic which kind of does the same thing. There was, in terms of the fact you're protesting too much, why are you even telling me this kind of thing? Meaning that, so the WikiLeaks thing happened, right? And most of it was targeted at the British. So did you realize that for the first time in 101 years, the head of MI6 came out and made a comment? Did not I did not know this and mi6 is the mi5 is the FBI mi6 is the CIA correct? Yeah, what does it? What does the mi stand for actually?

1:29:08 I have no idea. They call themselves the SIS now. Was that what James Bond was a part of, MI6? Yeah, he was in MI6. But SIS is Secret Intelligence Services. And this whole speech, he gave a speech to the editors in England. This guy's name is John Sawers. S-A-W-E-R-S and he was formerly a confidante of Blair and he was also the UN ambassador and if you look at his background it's like, oh this guy was always apparently in the business because it was just kind of sketchy. And he came out with and he gave about a 40 minute talk, most of it about, a lot of it was weird and I didn't record much of it, I just recorded this one clip

1:29:49 But the, he also talked about how important it was to be secret and we're very, we're honest about the secrecy that we keep. We have to share secrets with other agencies and they have to be careful because who knows who's going to trust us if we ever let one of these secrets get out and on and on and on. But this is the one, this little clip here is the one that says to me, whoa, why is he saying this at all? And it's the first time in 101 years the head of MI6 has spoken publicly. Yeah. Here we go. I also welcome the Prime Minister's initiative to set up the Gibson inquiry into the detainee issue. If there are more lessons to be learned, we want to learn them.

1:30:30 And after 9-11, the terrorist threat was immediate and paramount. We are accused by some people not of committing torture ourselves, but of being too close to it in our efforts to keep Britain safe. Let me say this. SIS is a service that reflects our country. Integrity is the first of the service's values. And I'm confident that in their efforts to keep Britain safe, all SIS staff acted with the utmost integrity and with a close eye on basic decency and moral principles. So, back to that reader's letter in the Times. Okay, so your assessment? I think he's protesting too much. It has to do with the WikiLeaks thing, I'm sure. So in other words, he's protesting too much, meaning he's guilty of it. They engaged in torture. Yeah.

1:31:26 Yeah, I know. I mean how dumb do they think the public is? Duh. Duh. How hard is that? But I just wanted to run this clip. The guy's kind of dull so I didn't take too many clips from him. But I just thought it was interesting that the head of MI6 has made it public, you know, came out and starts talking. Very unusual. Um, little biodiversity? Ah, yes, your favorite topic. Biodiversity, everybody, is the new meme. So, first a little background here. The United Nations, of course, had the Nagoya Summit and they have apparently struck a deal to save the natural world. So, I just want you to understand this is so exactly like

1:32:14 Climate change, but it's something you can be for you can be for biodiversity Instead of against global warming. So this is kind of an interesting little switch So according here the last-minute deal at the United Nations Convention on biodiversity Sets out 20 goals to be implemented in the next 10 years to help tackle the mass extinction mass extinction John of Species around the world including that poisonous frog everyone keeps showing a picture of you know what fuck that frog This frog will kill you with one spit. This is one frog we don't need. He looks pretty though with the red head. Oh, we need more meerkats. Right. So here's the deal. Increasing the area of quote protected land in the world from 12.5% to 17% and the area of protected oceans from 1% to 10% by 2020

1:33:09 Now, there's a couple of ways you can read this, but does that not mean like grabbing land? Yeah, and it's not as if the United States government, as a matter of fact, hasn't been grabbing land like there's no tomorrow for the last 50 years. Yeah. I mean, we've been grabbing, the federal government owns most of this country outright. And then another interesting report, a lot of these biodiversité campaigners Turns out and actually I'm not against this a lot of them are for Nuclear power, which I think is fine. You know, I think that's it's gotten such an incredibly bad rap And a lot of that has changed nuclear is not quite as nasty as it used to be but they also pretty much universally support genetically modified food and

1:33:59 because we can't go on. Wait, hold on a second. Stop the presses. How do you support biodiversite on the one hand and then go for genetically modified foods which is anything but because there's a very targeted, you target all the genes you want, you make a uniculture seed bank that you then, when you plant it's just basically all exactly the same planted genetically in every which way. How does that, how do these two thoughts work together? How does one become the other? Can you explain that to me? Well it all depends who's paying your rent. I think that's how it works. Oh let me see, oh a check from Monsanto. Yeah okay, yeah genetically modified good. So there's two organizations I'd like to highlight during today's broadcast. One is Europa Bio which is the European Association for Bio Industries.

1:34:56 And they just had a summit, the 2010 EFIB, European Association for Bio-Industries, and the Secretary General, it's not good enough to say the CEO or the President, you have to be a Secretary General because that sounds like you're a leader. And by the way, she's a total MILF. Natalie Moll. And just a short 40 second clip of her and just listen to how she's hammering this home. The common agricultural policy that's being revised at the moment needs to look also at the possibility of farmers to look to produce biobased products, raw materials for the biobased economy. If we're serious about the biobased economy and we want to produce more and more biobased products, we need to have the raw materials and we should produce them in Europe and not import them.

1:35:46 So that's the first thing. And the second thing is we have to have a better coherence of policies from agricultural production to research and innovation and to market pull. We need to have those lead market initiatives implemented. We need to have more communication and education to consumers but also to industry about the advantages of a sustainable bio-based economy. So that's the meme there, John, the bio-based economy. The hell is that supposed to mean? I think it means growing genetically modified crap. I think that's what it means. Well, I had trouble figuring out what it meant. Where's she from? Where's that accent from? Luxembourg? She, uh, I believe she's actually... I can tell you. Hold on a second. Because I looked it up and I was actually kind of surprised myself. Let me see. You can find this at europabio.org.

1:36:41 Europa bio org the Europa bio team Natalie mole hmm. I thought I had a I thought I had a Type her name in with the word wiki she probably has a page. Well could you do that? I'll do it. No. I don't have her spelling Molly it's M O L L Natalie mole wiki Natalie mole Natalie mole Here we go There's no She doesn't exist. She doesn't have a wiki. Holy mackerel, she's a loser. But what she is, John... Filth, filth, filth, filth. That's one mother I'd like to f***. She's very hot looking. Okay, but now the kicker. Please go to conservation.org because we, I think we might have a poster child for biodiversity.

1:37:48 Looks like we got one. Who was front row and center at the Biodiversité Summit? Well, let me guess. I'm just guessing. I did not see this, but I would have to say George Clooney. No, but it's a close second. Wait, wait, Bono. No, no, no. Bill Gates. No, he's more in the Clooney. He's more in the Clooney. He's on the Clooney side of the equation? Think more Clooney, yeah. Okay, I give up. Oh man, Harrison Ford. Wow, I would have never guessed him. He's gotten into the game. Oh yeah, check him out man. So here he is. You know, the problem with Ford, he just doesn't seem like a bright person. Well, you know, he makes... Clooney seems sharp, you know, he seems like he's part of some scheme. Yeah, but Harrison Ford, I mean, he's... Look at the movies he's done.

1:38:38 He always plays an agent. Come on. Yeah, he plays a sharp operator. Yeah, he plays a very sharp operator. That's all you need. I've got some good quotes from him here. This is from the Biodiversity Tag Conference in... What was it? Where was it Nagoya? We have to create a kind of undeniable Ground swell this is I you got to listen. I got to play that roll this back listen to what he's saying an undeniable groundswell undeniable undeniable undeniable The science is in! Interesting, that's very good. Here it comes. We have to create a kind of undeniable groundswell of public opinion. A kind of movement level effect.

1:39:34 something like the civil rights movement or the... Are you with me? You following me? You following me? The women's rights movement. To advocate for the kind of work that needs to be done to protect the environment. Okay, so we need a groundswell. We cannot keep fighting this battle. These guys have just got too much ammunition. I mean, they just keep coming at you with stuff. There's more. Oh, but wait, John, there's more. This is unbelievable. There's more. Oh, he's a great poster child. The United States is here as an observer. The United States is here as a source of funding. Really? Huh, never heard of such a thing. A source of funding for biodiversity? Huh. Whose money is that? Let me think. Mine?

1:40:24 Did you get to vote on that, John? On funding for something? I was looking at the propositions, looking for the biodiversity thing. Excuse me? No. You have to pronounce it. Please pronounce it properly. Yeah, go. You said biodiversity. No, I said biodiversity. Oh, okay. I was pretty sure I heard you say it the other way around. Okay, let's continue here. We're not a voting delegate and we need to take that responsibility. to have that opportunity and to show leadership. So does this sound familiar to you at all? Does this sound like a script that you've heard before?

1:41:04 you have a copy of the script well no i don't have a copy of it but definitely sounds like this something i've heard before i'd like the global warming thing like a global we're not a member of the world and we have a good one for a minute we gotta be the leaders we gotta give them money but here's more i've come here to encourage uh... leadership of of this convention all of them hundred ninety-two countries are represented here and uh... so how to that's that's bullshit I've come here to encourage... what are you like King Harrison? I've come here to speaketh to the delegateth. They must have... Yeah who's he kidding? He's like an actor. You're an actor dude. It's like I've come here because when I come people listen to me. I am King Harrison. I've come here to encourage

1:41:54 leadership of this convention, all of the 192 countries. I'm taking meetings with all of the 192 leaders. Countries are represented here and my ambition is that they, our ambition at CI for them, is that they take bold actions, take big firm steps in the direction of preserving biodiversity. Biodiversity! Say it properly. So he's got a couple commercials out there. Oh yeah, I mean it's just going. Here's one where he's sitting in a salon. This is a highly... you can find it in the show notes. Noagendershow.com and cross-posted other places.

1:42:38 He's sitting in a beauty salon, and he's getting his chest waxed And it's a metaphor for burning down the Amazon rainforest When rain forests get slashed and burned it releases tons of carbon into the air we breathe It changes our climate it hurts Every bit of rain forest that gets ripped out over there I Ladies and gentlemen, the great Harrison Ford comparing his chest hair. Wait, wait, wait, wait. He's got a mixed metaphor going on. He says they burned down the forces, then he says ripped out. I mean, was it one or the other? The ripped out obviously doesn't create tons of carbon. They should have burned it off his chest.

1:43:35 If they'd ripped it out, it wouldn't have released any carbon. Exactly, they should have had a blowtorch and just burned his hair. It would have stunk up the salon. Hey, you know what? I think you got a real good point there. Hey, he needs to blowtorch it off. Good point, John. Yeah, who's he kidding with this bullcrap? Yeah, weenie, pussy. What, you're afraid to blowtorches now? Anyway, the the place to go learn about all this is conservation.org and he's on the home page with videos and it's a huge huge organization I'm sure I just found that just before the show started they have an annual report and Financials, let me just let me just while we're here. Let me look at the financials. Hey fiscal year audited financial statements Okay. Hey, that's better than the Clinton Foundation. I

1:44:24 They still haven't released their audited financials. Let's see how much money they have, John. Hold on a second. Nothing. Wow. They got like $300,000. Yeah, check it in a year from now. We shall. Total liabilities $345,797. that is the total budget of the Conservation International Foundation and affiliates. Well that's what he said early on, he said we need money. We want US government money so we have to have an undeniable movement. Let's do it again.

1:45:03 The science is in! Science! Don't be a denier. And just a quick check of ClintonFoundation.org 2009 still no audited financials or IRS 990 form. Somebody wrote a note into us saying it's November 15th is the deadline. Which I thought was October 15th. I thought it was October 15th. I was pretty sure it was. For 990s, you know, they all said it, I guess. Okay, then we shall wait. But hey, you know, he's got a week to do it. Anyway, I just thought it was very interesting to see the new poster child for Biodiversité. That would be Harrison Ford, who plays a, usually plays a CIA agent.

1:45:47 And he's taking meetings. I just want you to know. He is taking meetings. He just is the wrong guy. But okay, fine. Let him just give him something to do. Hey, you needed me to queue up the jingle. We need that or? Well, no, we can do without it. But I know somebody out there that they sent us a story about apparently there's an outbreak of swine flu in Northern Ireland. Oh, let me do it. And this guy, one of our producers, he says, you know, I just, this is a great story because I love that jingle. There you go. The only reason we want it.

1:46:32 that's the way the shows he's headed so uh... anyway let's try something that's going to give a direction how about the uh... did you know celebrex is one of our favorite advertisers they they're doing one thirties let's it's a it's i don't actually advertise on this show but we love them because uh... they have said ever since we like to ridicule and because one of those great at companies that makes a product that you probably shouldn't use and it will kill you or you'll kill yourself or you will kill yourself while on it This is a, this is a, Celebrex is the one for arthritis. And it's, but they've changed the style. First they've created a scenario of some guy who can't move and then he's moving a lot and they, how can you keep moving? It's about moving. And it's a shot completely different than any of the commercials I've seen, these other drug commercials. You know, of course there's always the kid and the dog and the whole thing. And the kid, and the guy with his family, he couldn't move, but now he can move. And he's taking a chance though with Celebrex, they mentioned that, you know, but at least he can move.

1:47:32 And they say the music's a little different. I think this is the new direction they're taking. It's still got all the horrible stuff, but the guy's voice, the voiceover guy's got a slightly different style and it's like you can't even hear him tell you the bad things. Let's give it a shot. It's simple physics. A body at rest tends to stay at rest while a body... Hey, uh... Wow, that sounds like shit. What the heck was that? I don't know, it sounds like shit. Emotion. Hold on a second. That's really poopy. Maybe I can fix this. Hold on. This is, uh... This is not good. Well, that's okay. We can run it next show. Stay in motion. Stay active and actually sleep. Wow. Here we go. It's simple physics. A body at rest tends to stay at rest while a body in motion tends to stay in motion. Staying active can actually ease arthritis symptoms. But if you have arthritis, staying active can be difficult. Prescription Celebrex can help relieve arthritis pain so your body can stay in motion because just one, two,

1:48:32 200 mg Celebrex a day can provide 24-hour relief for many with arthritis pain and inflammation. Plus, in clinical studies, Celebrex is proven to improve daily physical function, so moving is easier. And Celebrex is not a narcotic. When it comes to relieving your arthritis pain, you and your doctor need to balance the benefits with the risks. All prescription NSAIDs, including Celebrex, may increase the chance of heart attack or stroke, which can lead to death. This chance increases if you have heart disease or risk factors such as high blood pressure or when NSAIDs are taken for long periods. NSAIDs, including Celebrex, increase the chance of serious skin or allergic reactions or stomach and intestine problems such as bleeding and ulcers, which can occur without warning and may cause death.

1:49:13 Patients also taking aspirin and the elderly are at increased risk for stomach bleeding and ulcers. Do not take Celebrex if you've had an asthma attack, hives or other allergies to aspirin, NSAIDs or sulfonamides. Get help right away if you have swelling of the face or throat or trouble breathing. Tell your doctor about your medical history and find an arthritis treatment that works for you. Ask your doctor about Celebrex and go to celebrex.com to learn more about how you can move toward relief. Celebrex, for a body in motion. You may have sudden bleeding and you may die from it. That one really got me. You can die from a number of things, three things at least. But I like the fact that he says you should balance the risks with the benefits. I'll take the pain over dying, please. And then he said one of the reasons that you can die is by using this, he doesn't say it, he calls them NSAIDs, which is a type of drug.

1:50:08 He says if you use too much of them, which means you'd be on the prescription for like a month or two, that'll kill you. I mean the whole thing is just like why, you know, it sounds to me that you want morphine or you know, it would be better, it's healthier. Yeah, give me some heroin. Yeah, it's not even as bad as alcohol. And it makes you trippy. So they say. I did run into another commercial we might as well play if we're gonna stay on this theme. Sure. This was done on the O'Reilly show. And it's like the stupidest thing, and by the way I'm asking the question to anybody out there, has the law been changed about defacing American money? Are you not allowed to deface it? You can't sit around, no you can't deface it. I mean otherwise every Ben Franklin would have a mustache on it. Well wait a minute, wait a minute. You're not allowed to draw on a dollar bill? No, it's defacing American money, it's against the law. Really? Yeah.

1:51:01 Unless the law has been changed because if you listen to this commercial they've done just that to the $2 bill and they're selling you copies. You'd play the $2 bill commercial. By the way, this is the kind of advertisers they have on the O'Reilly. Don't miss this incredible opportunity to acquire the very first $2 bills honoring America's national parks. Yellowstone, the world's first national park, graces this historic, privately enhanced $2 bill and is now available to the American public. This exquisitely detailed $2 bill features Old Faithful Geyser practically gushing off the note and Thomas Jefferson's striking portrait brilliantly framed in gold. The official seals from the Federal Reserve and the U.S. Treasury attest to each bill's legal tender status and on the reverse depicts the signing of the Declaration of Independence.

1:51:49 Two dollar bills are among the rarest U.S. currencies and these crisp, uncirculated two dollar bills are now being released through this special offer from the New England Mint. Each genuine two dollar bill comes complete with four breathtaking photos and certificate of authenticity. The issue price of this historic release has been set at $30. But if you act now through this special introductory offer, it can be yours for the incredible price of just $10 plus processing and handling. And if you call right now, you'll also receive this beautiful Grand Canyon $2 bill as a free bonus. This is great! I've got an idea. I've got an idea the no agenda $2 bill screw that the no agenda $1 bill and we'll have John Holmes gushing on it like nobody else's business was fairly so the guy goes there's a couple of things What a great business model yeah, but it's illegal I'm telling there's two bucks in the people I'm gonna tell you enhanced which means somebody scribbled on it privately and we can do the same

1:52:51 thing get your no agenda $1 bill now privately enhanced at the no agenda mint with a depiction of John Holmes gushing like nobody else's business. The reason that you want it doesn't have to be profane the reason that you want the $2 bill I might add as opposed to the $1 bills because the $2 bill has more real estate on it that you can print on I'm talking about just drawing stuff with a sharpie. I'm not talking about actually printing anything. We just get a stack of dollar bills. It's easy. People will pay us 50 for that.

1:53:31 Yeah, I think you should begin. So I think the people should note that the two dollar bill is not the rarest. Nobody uses them. I mean, I have a couple of them. But if you can go to your bank, they're actually kind of fun to hand out at the farmer's market. Yeah, you can you can pay with them. Yeah. Because people always looking like you're bad. By the way, people have been arrested for passing two dollar bills because the cops are too stupid to know that they were legal. The man is trying to pass counterfeit money. There's a guy, a guy's resident in Ohio. for passing a two, for using a $2 bill. But anyway, you can go to the bank and ask for a, it costs you 200 bucks. You get a Federal Reserve, all brand new, you can get this with any money you want, $2 bills, and you get a pack of them and then you use them, $200 worth of them. Wait, but you can get a hundred, $200, a hundred $2 bills for 200 bucks? Yeah. So let's, okay, John, this is a great idea. I love this idea.

1:54:27 And okay, instead of John Holes, we'll just say, with crackpot and buzzkill practically gushing off the bill. Can I just, I just want to say that. I just want to say that. Okay, I want somebody out there to get me how these guys can do this legally. Who cares? If we get sued, we just point to them. So those guys are doing it? No, I want to know in advance. Okay, and then we just get a bunch of sharpies and then we just sign them and draw little stick figures on it. That's why they that's why it's illegal because that's what people do and they would get you know the you try they track these guys down it was a pretty hefty fine more than the money we'd make on the deal. You can't be scribbling on money. I've had money with somebody rubber stamps it with some bullshit. Okay I'm looking at the chat room and it says

1:55:15 The actual law is, with intent to render such bank bill, draft note, or other evidence of debt unfit to be reissued. So it's not unfit to be reissued. You can reissue it. It just, I mean people write notes on money all the time, little phone numbers and stuff like that. So, intent to render it unfit to be reissued. I think that's okay. It can be reissued even if it has little stick figures on it. Nothing wrong with that. I'm talking to somebody from the Treasury before we do anything. Okay. Or recommend anything. But then we can't get people to take and print some stickers up and put them on the toll plaza. Yeah, but... That's gonna be more effective than passing around a bunch of money. When I get money that's got some crap written on it for somebody's rubber stamp, I get irked about it. Who's this idiot? Okay.

1:56:05 I thought it was a really good, I thought you had a whole pitch here, but you're actually kind of against it. No, I was headed toward the pitch, but then I said, and I prefaced the entire piece with this, I want to know what the real legality of it is, because this seems to me, this $2 privately enhanced, you know, state parks, or national parks $2 bill, rare and valuable, seems illegal as far as I can tell. Okay, well instead of... I mean these guys have really done it, they got crap all over this bill. Yeah, but instead of bitching about it, let's follow their lead and... That's what I suggested at the beginning and I'm sticking with it. I'm not jumping into it. Okay, I think it's great. I'm very excited about this, this is a great idea.

1:56:46 I just want to cut the commercial where we say, with crackpot and buzzkill, practically gushing off the bill. That's cool. That's lovely. I like the way that sounds. It's kind of... You can also just print a fake, you know, like a six dollar bill or something. That may be an issue. Well, there's a Clinton bill floating around. I still have a bunch of them called the sex dollar bill. Yeah. With Clinton's visage. All right, go on, take it. So anyway, I will have an end of show clip John the end of show clip is the second most emailed article just came out in the past day and this is what happened in Gitmo Nation East Lord James of Blackheath who stood up in the House of Lords on November the 1st and and everyone has sent this this

1:57:42 the transcript of this around and he says hey there's a secret foundation a secret organization that wants to essentially buy Gitmo Nation East and bail us out with all their money which is backed by gold. I know this. Right but I have the actual Audio of Lord James of Blackheath saying this so instead of just reading it I have him saying it and I thought that was thing to listen to as an end of show clip and you should we tell people who's trying to buy the The well, I think the whole story is bogus. I think it's bogus as well. And by the way 17 billion, please That's not real money

1:58:18 He has 600 billion that Ben Bernanke's printing up today. That's real money. I mean, the guy knows what he's doing. Yeah. I do have one more clip if we want to play it before... Oh, we're getting late. I can... I'll move this to next week. No, go ahead. What you got, man? Well, I just ran into this group, a bunch of... it looks like a bunch of spooks to me. They're part of the United Nations and it sounds... You know how you... What the hell are these guys doing out here? Oh! Oh! All aboard! Train's good, plane's bad. Just I'm just tooting back at him John. Geez can I wait? Just just stick with trains and noise of a noise abatement Can I just can I just give you a quick little clip from our president regarding trains that you'll love it Okay, so this is from the fortune magazine most magnificent wonderful women of the world where Michelle Obama was named the bestest woman ever and

1:59:12 Warren Buffett was there and I can't believe we missed this one of our producers sent this in to me so real quickly where did Buffett come in on the top list of women he actually I didn't pull a clip from he's like I love being here because look there's 300 women around it's the most sexist thing he could say it was really funny so but of course we know Buffett invested over a billion dollars in which rail line was it Burlington Northern, those are the guys honking as they went by. Right, that's why they're doing it. They're saying, hey, suckas! So Burlington Northern and of course the whole reason for this so-called high-speed rail scam, what we'll be building rail tracks for is to not to transport you, the human resources, but to transport goods all over the country and to benefit guys like Warren Buffett. So the president is at this event, listen to what he said.

2:00:07 Now, this doesn't relieve government of its responsibility to create the conditions for businesses to succeed. That's what government does best, those things that no individual or business will do on their own, but that create an environment where everybody can compete. So that means funding the basic research that drives new discoveries and sparks new industries. It means upgrading our infrastructure, including things like high-speed rail and internet, so that you can get your products and services to your customers. There you go. Somebody took him aside after that one. Dude, what are you talking about? Dude, hey dude. You went off script you bonehead. Douche, you dudes. What are you doing man? You can't be saying that dudes. But he was kowtowing to Buffett who was there like, oh yeah, let me think. That guy, oh yeah, oh yeah, goods and services. Alright, now you've got a group of economic hitmen I presume.

2:01:06 Yeah, but they seem to be stemming from the UN, but if you listen to it, it sounds like economic hitmen to me. They do this kind of a human resources worldwide report, and there's a bunch of possible memes in here. I have no conclusion about this, except that they're obviously economic hitmen of some sort. ex-government guys. And what is this from? What is this clip from? This is from a meeting, I think it was, it wasn't the Council on Foreign Relations, but it was something like that, and they were having this kind of this discussion about what they do, and this guy who's the head of it, he introduces himself, and then I do a little clip in there which is kind of seamless, but then he goes in to discuss this new methodology that's being developed to tell you if you're poor or not.

2:01:47 Okay. My name is Fred Tipson. Is this a test we can take, by the way, to see if you and I are poor? Will we qualify for this test? No, I think it has to be done by experts. Oh, okay. My name is Fred Tipson. I'm the director of the Washington office of UNDP, and I'd like to welcome you to our roundtable today on Iraq's development challenges. Most of you know UNDP well, but for those who don't, we are the leading development agency of the United Nations. Have offices in over 130 countries and do work in more than 160 countries Wow, that's great. You've never heard of us, but look at where we are everywhere Use your money everywhere with your money But among those assignments are

2:02:34 development challenges in many of the most difficult parts of the world. And this year, looking at 20 years of since the innovation of the Human Development Report, which as many of you know, was one of the first indices and reports based on the indices that went beyond income and gross domestic product measurements for measuring human welfare. And added in particular Wow Measuring human welfare. I like that yeah, that's a that's a you get the the collective human resource coefficient and That's your human welfare result actually get worse. Okay. There's a longevity and literacy that embellished a wider view of what human development encompassed and

2:03:23 What's interesting about this report, and I hope you can join us on November 17th at AED for that launch event What's interesting marketing your calendar John we have to join him for that event thing is that there is a number of new indices that have been proposed and added in that report one on one measuring inequality when measuring gender empowerment and one which is called the gender empowerment What would that be? I don't know. gender is I guess there's a coefficient involved yes multi-dimensional poverty index developed oh wait a minute this is a gem what index is called the multi-dimensional poverty index oh okay my multi-dimensional poverty index is pretty low right now developed in conjunction with Oxford University which looks at an even more multifaceted way of thinking about both poverty and progress against measurements of poverty so please

2:04:25 please come out for that bullshit you know this is exactly what professor griffin public enemy is saying and because the poverty index of the human resources of get no nation proper is six hundred thirty thousand dollars that's what each human resources worth they have these calculations i truly believe that i truly believe that it should invade or not what else we kill these people what does that mean And that again... All we really want to do is just go over there and steal their oil. And John... Why do we have to make it so complicated? And it really comes right back to Paris 1919 where the number one thing they were trying to figure out was what is a dead soldier worth? And they were actually doing calculations

2:05:10 uh... of uh... of well uh... this is what they pay human resource could have produced in their lifetime this is the contribution to the gdp this is how all governments and all leaders literally think about us yeah you're a human resource you're basically just a line item unfortunately you and I are below the line. Actually that could be good, I don't know. That might actually be good for you. Evorite.org slash NA, help us out. We really do. The whole thing is distressing and the whole 1919 went into this thing and that's what these guys are doing. The United Nations Development Agency or whatever the heck they call themselves. They got all this money. UDP. A bunch of economic hitmen going out there and making decisions and taking their oil. Yeah, let's see what it's worth. Let's see what you're worth.

2:05:57 And by the way, this is why Clooney goes to Darfur, because of course they want to steal all the oil from Darfur. Here's how it works. The elites go, let's steal that oil. Okay, good idea. Aw man, we have to kill a lot of people. Yeah, I feel bad about that. Yeah, me too. Hey, let's get Clooney involved. We'll all feel good. That's what it is! I mean, I'm convinced. Like, hey, let's get that oil. Yeah, right on. Let's get some minerals. Yeah, let's get some lithium. Yeah, yeah. Hey, man, we gotta kill a lot of human resources for that. Nah, that sucks, doesn't it? Yeah. What can we do? Hey, Clooney's gotta be free. Bring him in. We'll all feel good. We'll do a benefit. That's how it goes, peeps. Clooney can sell it. Clooney can sell it. Hey.

2:06:44 Coming to you from Gitmo Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California. In the morning everybody, my name's Adam Curry. And from sunny Northern California, Northern Silicon Valley, where the, uh, there's a couple clouds in the sky but nothing major, I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll talk again on Sunday right here for early morning service. I'll be in San Francisco. So it'll be fun to get the connection together. It'll all be happening here on no agenda. I'm going to have to make a very big apology to my noble friend, the noble Lord Sassoon. because I'm about to raise a subject which I shouldn't raise, which is going to be one which I think is now time to put on a higher awareness and to explain to the House as a whole, as I don't think they have any knowledge of. I'm sorry the noble Lord, Stratford-Clyde, is not with us at the moment, because this deeply concerns him also.

2:07:32 But for the last 20 weeks, since yesterday afternoon, I have been engaged in a very strange dialogue with the two noble Lords. In the course of which I've been trying to bring to their attention the willing availability of a strange organisation which wishes to make a great deal of money available to assist the recovery of the economy in this country. For want of a better description of their name, I'll call them Foundation X. It's not their real name, but it'll do for the moment. Foundation X was introduced to me 20 weeks ago last week by a very eminent city firm, FSA controlled, by its chairman who came to me and its chairman said, we have this extraordinary request to assist in doing this major financial reconstruction, it's megabucks, but we need your help to assist us in understanding whether this business is legitimate.

2:08:29 I had the biggest put down in my life by the noble Lord Strathclyde when I told him this story first of all. He said, why you? You're not important enough to have the answer to a question like that. And he's quite right. My noble Lord, I'm not important enough. But the answer to the next question was, you haven't got the experience for it. Yes, I do. I have had one of the biggest experiences in the laundry of terrorist money and of funny money that anybody's had in the city. I've handled billions of terrorist money. Not into my pocket. The biggest terrorist client I had was the IRA and I'm pleased to say that I managed to write off more than a billion pounds of their money. I've also had extensive connections with North African terrorists but that's of a far nastier nature and I don't want to talk about that because that's still a security issue. I would also hasten to add it's no use getting the police in for me because I shall immediately call the Bank of England as my defence witness as they put me in to deal with these problems.

2:09:32 So, the point is that I was in the course of doing this very strange activity, I got a very interesting set of phone numbers and references which I could go to for help when I needed it. And so people in the city have known that if they want to check out anything that looks at all odd, they can come to me and I can press a few phone numbers and get a reference. And so they came to me and asked me whether I would get them a reference and a clearance on Foundation X. And for 20 weeks I've been endeavouring to do so. I myself have come to the absolute conclusion that they are completely genuine and sincere, and that they are quite directly wishing to make the United Kingdom one of the principal points for which they will use to disseminate their extraordinary great wealth into the world at this present moment as part of an attempt to seek the economic recovery of the global economy.

2:10:30 And so I made the phone call to my noble friend Lord Strathclyde on a Sunday afternoon, I think he was sitting on his lawn, poor man, and he did the quickest ball pass I've ever seen. If England can do anything like it at Twickenham on such Saturday, we have a chance against the All Blacks. The next thing I knew I'd got the noble Lord Sassoon on the phone instead. And he, from the outset, took the quite right, proper defensive attitude of total scepticism and said this possibly can't be right. In the course of the following weeks I had, first of all, the noble Lord, Sir Suon, said go and talk to the Bank of England. So I phoned the Governor of the Bank of England and said could he please check this out for me? And he came back after about three days and said you can get lost, I'm not touching this with a barge pole, it's far too difficult. Take it back to the Treasury. So I did. And within another day the noble Lord, Sir Suon, had come back and said this is rubbish, it can't possibly be right.

2:11:28 So I said, well, I'm going to work more on it. And then I had a meeting with the noble Lord Strathclyde. And I actually bought one of the senior executives of Foundation X to meet Lord Strathclyde. I have to say that as first dates go, it was not a great success. Neither of them ended up by inviting the other one up for a coffee or a drink at the end of the evening. And they didn't exchange telephone numbers in order to be able to follow up the call. In fact, I found myself between a rock and a hard place, represented by both a rock and a hard place, which were totally paranoid about each other. Because the Foundation X people have got an amazing obsession with their own security. They are expecting only to be contacted by somebody equal to head of state status or somebody who has an international security rating equal to the top six people in the world.

2:12:28 And this is such a strange situation. So both the noble Lord Sassoon and the noble Lord Strathclyde both came up with what should have been an absolute killer argument as to why this could not be true and we should forget it. The noble Lord Sassoon's argument first was that these people were offering evidence, or they claimed evidence, that they had lodged £5 billion with British banks last year. and they gave dates and they gave transfer dates and the details of these transfers. And as the noble Lord, Sir Sune, said, if that was true it would stick out like a sore thumb. You couldn't have five billion popping out of a bank account without it destroying, disrupting the balance sheet completely. But I remember that about the same time that those transfers were being made, the noble Lord Miners was indulging in his game of rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic of the British banking community.

2:13:27 And if he had three banks at that time, which had had say a deficiency of one and a half billion each, then you pretty well have absorbed the entire five billion and you wouldn't have the source on stick out on this at that time because you'd have typed one and a half billion into each of three banks and you'd have lost the lot. Or absorbed the lot. That would be a logical explanation. I don't know. Then Lord Strathclyde came up with a much different argument. He said this cannot be right. This cannot be right because These people said at the meeting with him that they were still effectively on the gold standard from back in the 1920s and that their entire currency holdings throughout the world, which were very large, were backed by bullion.

2:14:13 And the noble Lord Strathclyde came back and said to me, he's had an analyst working on it and this has to be stuff and nonsense. Because he said they had come up with a figure for the amount of bullion that would have been needed to cover their currency reserves as claimed, which would be more than the entire value of bullion that had ever been mined in the history of the world. I'm sorry but the noble Lord Strathclyde is wrong. His analysts are wrong. Because what he had done was he had tapped into the sources which are available and there is only one definitive source for the amount of bullion that has ever been taken from the Earth's crust. And that was a National Geographic magazine article 12 years ago. And whatever figure it was that they quoted was then quoted again.

2:14:59 six other sites on the internet, on Google, and so everybody's quoting one original source, and there is no other confirming authority. But if you tap into the Vatican accounts of the Vatican Bank, you come up with a claim of total bullion... The noble Lord is into his fifteenth minute. I wonder if he'll withdraw his remarks to a conclusion. The total value of the Vatican Bank reserves would claim to be more than the entire value of gold ever mined in the history of the world. Now, my point on all of this is that we have not proven any of this.

2:15:42 Foundation X are saying at this present moment that they are prepared to put up the entire £5 billion for the funding and creation of the 3i recreation. The British government can have the entire independent management and control of it, they don't want anything to do with it. There will be no interest charged. And by the way, if the British government would like it as well, if it will help, they will be prepared to put up money for funding hospitals, schools, the rebuilding of Crossrail immediately, the £17 billion transfer by Christmas if requested and all these other things. These things can be done if wished but we have to have a senior member of the government has to accept the invitation to a phone call to the chairman of the company concerned, Foundation Apes.

2:16:33 and then we can get into business. And all I'm asking is that this is too big an issue. I'm just an aging, obsessive old peer, and I'm easily dispensable, but getting to the truth is not. And we need to know what really is happening here. My lords, we must find out the truth of this situation. You can take that to the bank. Bullshit! Ladies and gentlemen, please rise for your Gitmo Nation national anthem. In the morning, Gitmo Nation We are all charged up to be Human resources and servants In all lands and all ships at sea From the east to west, down under to The lowlands and beyond We are happy

2:17:29 and distracted slaves. Hear our hypnopnation song. In the morning.