Kill Switch

00:00 He's full of shit. Larry Bleitner, Darren O'Neal! It's Thursday August 6th 2026 this is your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode 1892 This is no agenda Yeah we're broadcasting live from just outside of Chirac right here in FEMA region number 5 In the morning everybody I am Darren O'Neill And from the pretentious Connecticut shore, this is Larry Blydener keeping commies and creeps at bay with my gleaming scimitar of truth. It's Darren and Larry! In the morning At least you've never seen Bernie Sanders outside your door or anything right? Well not yet but anything can happen you know that You could exactly Especially in this state

00:45 There's a lot of honk if you love Bernie bumper stickers or crap like that around here. Really? That's a thing?! It's kind of, he still sustains doesn't he? The guy is 2000 years old and um... He's still spreading his commie lies! Do you remember the good old days when it was, oh he's just that crazy Bernie. He's never gonna do anything socialism will never take foot he's just that one crazy guy that gets elected? Oh yeah there has been a succession of crazy guys for centuries Gus Hall every election he ran as the commie candidate I think he ran like nine elections or something There was someone before him It's not new

01:28 No, there's nothing new under the sun except they are multiplying. Oh they certainly are oh my god Are they it's very scary and we have a very exciting show today the pod father will be joining us That is cool. That is a rock and groove, baby. He's gonna finally pull our plug no doubt about it I Get us we know we know We're not Adam were not John but boost in donate and if you want media deconstruction we are doing the best we can and having fun with it. I know you... We sure are! You personally, you like to look for the negative comments and uh.. I mean that makes it even more fun And there's always some to reward me This is true. You've probably got a lot of negative comments going in their timeline as poor Anthony Fauci, ya know? Oh man he's at an avalanche of negative comments absolutely yeah Yeah I saw one video where I think it was a dude

02:29 From TMZ which would make sense because you don't expect anybody in the normal mainstream media to dare be out in front of Anthony Fauci's house and be like hey, so what about that taking the fifth 111 times? Mm-hmm. But of course Fauci didn't answer that guy either but but Harvey Levin gave a glowing endorsement on his show like the day over the day after just him not even with this sidekick Telling what a great guy is and how wrong everyone is and we should revere him and so on and so forth And even went back to the you know if the first time Fowchee's head popped up like a whack-a-mole During the AIDS crisis, and I mean there were guys that really were calling for his beheading back then one of the most popular or vocal of them was a guy named Larry Kramer

03:17 He was a very, very outspoken gay activist. And man he just went for Fauci's lungs! So I don't know what Harvey is thinking but it is his show and his right to speak. You must protect Dr. Fauci at all costs? At all costs. Unless of course you are Aaron Rodgers I'm gonna plead the fifth. Okay! Like that absolute coward Tony Fassu. Absolute coward. Are you kidding me? Yeah, 111 times. You got a pardon and you pleaded over 100 times at the White House what are you scared of Tony? I thought you were the science

03:57 I thought you were IM science and he get up there, and he can't answer a question? Yeah. What are we doing? And how much time did the network spend on that? How much time do they spend on my responses every week, on my vaccination status, on Taylor at Travis's wedding?! Does that bother you? No it's all important very important news for the M5M and he's got a point when It was all going on like, oh can all of these sports... I mean the NASCAR guys had to get... They're in a car by themselves with their helmet on. And what Aaron did is that takes media construction to another level which is as it happens The guy with the worst job in the world at that moment was Pat McAfee What must he have been thinking? Well... I mean the fact is this is

04:50 The fallout because of Anthony Fauci being not very smart in writing all of these things onto a government servant. I heard from Rob the constitutional lawyer, he's like, ah! The guy has to be an idiot cause everybody knows... Sure. Of course it's government property It's all that can be FOIA'd. Even, you know my wife works for the little village and it's like anything we do internally we all know if there is a FOIA this is going out so you have to be careful about what you say Anthony! I read something today that they're looking for his texts That might fit into another chapter Yeah well they heard they got his cell phone although I don't think you need the cell phone to get the text

05:38 it might speed that up. And that's always a question when it comes to how these politicians communicate because if its anything official, its supposed to be in a way that will be down in the annals of history where people... you're not supposed to use like Hillary, your own email server and Run things that way so it's interesting to see you know who's smart enough or who's not I think if you want a good a good financial play would be to invest in a Flock of carrier pigeons at this point because he might have some privacy and they were but guess they work pretty good in their day They got back and forth somehow yes

06:26 Greg Jarrett, of course on Fox is talking about the diary here. See if charges can be brought but look Senator Paul has long argued Fauci lied and covered up COVID's origins and his diary is self-incriminating publicly Fauci insisted COVID came from a natural source but you read his diary in privately he is conceding it likely came from the very lab that he had funded Which is the thing it's he lied. It's not that he was an idiot, it's not that he made mistakes Oh No, you know it's because of the lies and that's exactly what we have ran Paul here Rand Paul calling for a vote tomorrow on whether to really I love The music underneath all this stuff That's so great yeah You got to keep because otherwise Larry the kids aren't gonna listen to a whole 38 seconds of news

07:21 If it doesn't have a techno beat behind it. On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution. What day in the week is it today? I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution. If approved, the resolution would call on the DOJ to pursue criminal charges against Fauci. Yeah and that'll be the yeah

08:05 Next question whether they will have any charge. It's gonna be tough You know it's a thought flash through my mind a couple of nights ago for some unknown reason I was looking at that movie the Irishman and there's a scene in there where Some mobsters sitting on a witness stand, and he attend that that movie was made in 2018 and And the attorney holds up his pen and says, what color is my pen? The guy says I respectfully decline. So I kind of wonder if Josh Hawley viewed that movie recently as well. Probably life imitating art aren't imitating life that whole round and round in it's interesting to see who is jumping in on this who is avoiding like you said most of the mainstream media

08:57 A lot of liberal talking heads are, oh we got to back Dr. Fauci he just... He was doing what he thought was right! Of course they do. Well of course Even though the admission in his diary would tell you otherwise? Yes, but even a Joe Rogan taking a victory lap on Fauci. Do you this one? Oh really we are right now in the middle of the Fauci hearings so he is now Testifying in front of Congress and pleading the fifth about everything including the color of his tie It's very weird to watch it's In one way it's like I told You too a lot of my liberal friends that wanted to pretend that he was a great guy And then he wasn't doing anything wrong

09:40 And now that all these emails have gotten out where it shows that he knew That the fatality rate was much lower than they were saying He knew that it wasn't dangerous for children, that they didn't need vaccines. He knew that the social distancing thing was all nonsense and he's got a blanket pardoned for 10 years and The thing is... These people get money for research and that's what they do. They do research so if you get money and you get grants for research, well You're gonna go to research And if your researchers gain of function research that makes viruses more infectious to human beings

10:17 You know you have to do it because that's your job. That's what you do. That's where you studied? That's what you went to school for like fit What a crazy fucking thing we're doing yeah hmm I don't know that anywhere on Fowchee his job description It stated Duke gain-of-function research somehow I think that was determined by a cabal of similar creeps to himself just to guess well because it's very hard and Not to imagine a world where that is used for a nefarious reason Because you could sell it to the average citizen. You can sell this as well We're trying to do this so we can then be ahead of something like this that would happen, so we would know how to counteract it but

11:03 But that's it's patent bullcrap. It is clearly that that phrase is just camouflage for a bioweapon Yes, you know please but this is how its being sold which is why people need to understand What of course words mean why people are telling you certain things? yes And as I always say not some people are stupid most or stupid because they've checked out They don't pay attention The news, I mean it was bad enough when they were going to Jon Stewart for their news. Now people are going to TikTok! It's nearly impossible to believe I put tick-tock on the same plane as a Stewart yeah, they're all there kind of equaling out Yeah Because Stuart I saw and we might even have the clip it probably won't make we got lots of clips. Thanks to everybody for bringing those into us like Steve Jones the clip collector and

12:03 It is kind of interesting when you see like Jon Stewart going up against Federman and just being it's all Just politics. It has nothing to do with Being human it has nothing to do with logic and understanding, and it's getting kind of sad What's with the human we know they're reptiles Alex Jones told I mean a David Ike told us come on They're probably correct end One more big reaction to the Fauci thing. This one from a guy that you and I have played a bunch over on Planet Rage, didn't hear as much around Noah Jende yet but Stephen A Smith who has been mentioned is a possible Democrat presidential candidate not that i believe he has any chance in hell but uh... I think he would do better than a lot of them like-I mean I would take him personally before

13:00 Pritzker or you know your California governor Newsom or Kamala any of those. And this was his take on the Fauci thing Do I think that he should be embarrassed for the self-adulation that he engaged in? You damn right, I do! Because some of the things that he was telling us to do was inconsistent with science but he was telling us it was science that led him making the decisions that he made Masking, six feet distancing. The closing of businesses forcing businesses to push those mandates upon people like me and others because I took the vaccine and I took a booster and I wore mask that we were told hey you ain't going get COVID if you do that and I got COVID. And damn it almost killed me. Going into 2022 women hospital 90 minutes before the ball is about to drop

14:04 We've been at this for three plus weeks. You got double pneumonia, you look really bad if this antibiotic and this steroid does not work. Mr Smith I'm sorry we're going to have to call your family looks that bad but we should know in three hours and through the grace of God three hours later i felt better after they gave me that steroid and that antibiotic those were the longest three hours of my life because i thought it was over

14:44 And I remember, I had done exactly what Dr. Anthony Fauci was imploring us all to do. You know yeah, he's I mean. I like what he says but his style always greats on me And it's it's a simple it could be some summarized with this. I'm gonna scream. I'm go whisper. I'm gonna scream I'm gonna whisper come on man you're not running a revival meeting There's a goddamn microphone at your lips okay? And I think it functions yet don't have to scream Stevie Thank you But it's the same reason people put music behind the clips It's an engagement

15:24 Tactic and I think it works not to me. Not to me. I hear music tracks, and I take a ball for man but the Message he was bringing there is why this should not be a political topic This should be people on both sides being very upset that the guy That people were saying was the science. That was the number one resource to go to when other doctors who had Degrees who were studying this we're like whoa, and then we're shut down because dr. Fauci disagreed while he was also

16:04 Making money hand over fist it would have seemed according to the news reports having his Minions go out like hey shouldn't you give this award to dr. Foushee? He needs the money You know Fauci he deserves all the heat that he's gotten and more and now I understand there's three states about two level charges at him right may May not we may not conflict with the federal pardon that Joey provided him. But let's not forget who Joe... He was working for huh Fauci walensky mean there were there were hundreds dozens certainly at the top and hundreds more that all circled the wagons and blasted out the same lies and Mandates so I don't you know. I like seeing him being grilled by By Hawley, and then the other guy but there should be dozens of people in that senatorial chamber being cooked Why aren't they're?

17:01 It's a good question. I mean, because most of it is politics. Most of it is they don't want to go after their own. I mean this is fair you know it's kind of understandable being that we before the Donald Trump thing we had never seen the massive amount of lawfare Going against people that work for and in the federal government But but I think that's the true answer to this is simply the unbreakable alliance between the billions trillions of big pharma and The deep state they function as one their buddies, you know so that that's what the power structure is

17:41 Really, you know look at what was Bobby the K saying you know for months before he took office. I'm gonna stop Television advertising for pharmaceuticals what happened? What happened to that doesn't even mention that anymore You know no and they're still running them non-stop Yes of course Drugs drugs drugs ask your doctor not well your doctor knows best He'll know what drug to put you know which when we were growing up. I know we're not You know a hundred and fifty years old or anything, but when we were growing up there were no Massive amounts of drug ads on television There were no none other than that massive the only there were no prescription drugs period the only thing you could see was Was excedrin and adesine and bare aspirin and maybe a cough medicine get that robot essence

18:25 That was it. The prescription, I think it was banned until sometime in the 1980's and the only other place where they do this crap is New Zealand. The rest of the entire globe bans pharmaceutical ads on television. Well yeah because it elevates the drug companies Above the medical professional those professionals course all the doctors have become errand boys. Yes doctors anymore You're I told you when the last time I went to the cardiologist your provider your medical provider with you Yeah, so like no that's not the way it works and it is It's unbelievable when the drugs, and then you've got like usually 60 to 90 seconds of this is the side effects that might happen including death on most. Oh yeah love those side effects man exploding kidneys loss of sight it's like wow but people still yeah give me that stuff I'll take that ask your doctor about I mean no tell your let your doctor figure out what you have and then figure out the best treatment you should never

19:27 Be walking into a doctor's office saying hey, I heard about this drug. Can I do of course they're doing that yeah? Especially those those Ozemic stuff whoa now you've got another Fauci clip here as well the yes I have one more and You know is it as we know there are allegedly four million podcasts out there in the world Well it looks like there's gonna be 4 million and 1 on Hello world, this is America's doctor Tony Fauci introducing my new podcast you can download it at ttass.com Tony's tips and science stuff

20:10 You know, lately I've been getting a bad rap from senators and football players and God knows who. I can not a wit! I still get piles of dough from drug patents and Cadillac government pensions And besides the money millions of people still love me People who know that I stil am The Science I get respect from big people who really matter like Julia Roberts, Joan Baez and Barbara Streisand. They all love me especially Barbara who I taught how to speak with Alexa as I was diagnosing the carbuncle on her buttocks Yeah! I'm a multitasker And why do i refer to alot of people is big people? Cause' im only 5 foot 2 and if you're wondering where I get my moxie ill tell you

21:03 I'm hung like a palomino and women can sense that. Even if they're ancient and their sinuses are calcified with Botox, somehow they can still sniff out my machismo Now besides my medical tip, I'm going to guide you on a journey into new worlds of other science like numerology. For instance Asians think 8 is the lucky number Americans think it's 7 They don't know squat The true lucky number is 5 Five fingers right? Try swinging your pick-up ball battle with 3 It takes five cards to make a royal flush

21:44 and constitutional amendment number five. That's a mountain of luck in one little sentence! So get on over to DTASS.com Fridays at 5 Eastern I tip you, you tip me! I take Zelle Venmo Cash App and Visa no Amex sorry see ya Wow you had to happen didn't it? Oh, no. It's a producer mode that should have been quicker That should have been in and out in like 45 seconds, but I know people like the dr Fauci voice And I mean if one of those things they could go viral who knows they had to be said though He's not well he might need a podcast if he has to have more bills for all of his lawyers

22:28 Yeah, it's gonna add up for him. He's not Musk he can't hang forever and if these three states start to bedevil him you're going to see some GoFundMes for... Who is paying for his lawyers now? And he had like a whole team of them so who was paying? Six of them! Six of them and one got bounced that was a very funny scene because you can't take the fifth then have somebody else trying to back you up But you know this whole thing comes down again. We were all here for the vaccine and we Had the audio on no agenda of all the people like I'm not going to take a Donald Trump vaccine, but that changed magically then yeah once it became the Biden administration and you brought on the last show

23:19 clip from this RFK with Dana Bash and this went on much longer. We have an extended clip of things that we didn't even hear which I thought was quite interesting But yeah, you were saying you are part of the problem. No I wasn't there was absolute press malpractice We're allowing your secretary a job your job is a fierce skepticism toward authority And yes, I am that you I am beating my job is also this empty no okay Are you gonna? You want to sit here and attack me or do you want to have conversations about public health? I'm not attacking you I'm asking like that we have

24:01 CNN anchor speaking to somebody like this like they're in kindergarten it's just beyond the pale really hmm you know this like I'm not gonna say it's very strange yeah again journalists uh I don't know if they have journalism classes anymore because many places a lot of colleges have canceled it because they know it's a dying art It is I guess you know you can't make much money because now AI's just gonna take a few little blurbs from your favorite social media and then create a story that doesn't have any real proof behind it. But, I remember taking a simple journalism class back in the day and it was who why what where and how those were the five things that had to be in every story and I guess if you go

25:06 try to break down the stories you're seeing today, whether you're listening to them or reading them. I betcha most are missing multiple parts of that equation. Do you want to have a conversation about public health? I'm not attacking you! I'm asking questions about how to prevent the next- And I'm not attacking you, I'm just asking questions. I'M JUST ASKING QUESTIONS LARRY! But they're very pointed and rude questions but i'm just asking questions Like why are you a crook? I'm just asking questions. Why are you being dishonest, i'm just asking questions. Question and I'll tell ya! That's what I am trying to do but also don't want to use this interview to allow you say things that aren't entirely true. You're talking about therapeutics fine it is also factually true that the COVID vaccine worked Factually True

26:02 Let's back that up a second worked for whom Wow wow she should talk to Stephen a Smith he got actually got boosted. He almost croaked Yeah, work great work perfect no hurt anybody either there were no side effects at all so let's There's only two answers to this question Darren She's either a complete imbecile or she Or she's getting some piles of Skrilla from the pharmaceutical people to say this. I'm guessing the pharmaceutical people do put some money towards advertising on CNN? They certainly do, we know that CNN does but maybe even personally she is getting a pipeline. To make that kind of statement

26:43 these times after all that's happened is mind-blowing it really is yes there was another story that was breaking breaking this week that there were no good clips on but there was an initiative called the Tarbell fellowship our bill tar bell fellowship which has nothing to do with the Fauci or the vaccine, but it is about AI and paying people to cover stories for AI. So as we move on over the next week or two this may more and more come out but it seems that there is a third party

27:25 Paying the people to write about AI Which is then being published in places like well, you know The New York Times or CNN or all of these outlets so You know you can trust the reporting just a science when the money is coming from? You know a third party that maybe Maybe has some skin in the game and maybe wants to push you in one direction or not Yeah, but RFK... Yeah he and Dana Bash continue to argue which is rightfully so once she just dropped that bombshell.

28:03 I think that what I have talked to scientists and doctors about- You've talked to scientists, can you show me one study? Yes. I can! That shows that children were protected by the COVID vaccine. I can tell you that there are- That vaccine did more good than harm to children. Can you show me one study that shows that? I can tell you that when it comes to the vaccine there have been studies that showed because of vaccine disinformation, there could 100 to 200,000 lives in the US saved. But because people didn't get the vaccine that's why I'm not saying that it entirely... You are saying nonsense! Let me finish! You are saying something you cannot show a single student except that. Okay, I am not saying nonsense? That is an ISO. I am NOT saying nonsense. Well he asked very specifically if she could name

28:59 A study that showed that the COVID vaccine did not do more harm than good to children. I'll bet you she could show such a study and it would be totally bogus, and Bobby could shoot out the guts of it in two seconds. Well yeah but she didn't! That's the beauty here... She did now. But there was probably something else. There was when it was in progress they were oh there was all kinds of bogus information that were floating in front of people's faces It was lies but... But she said she could do it right there and then didn't when he's like okay what is it? Shes'a bigger coward than Fauci Oh yeah Okay, I am NOT saying nonsense. You are talking what somebody told you! Stop that's the way to put that with I'm not talking nonsense. Excuse me? Yes. This is somebody that supposed to be covering the news in a serious manner... No

29:52 I am not saying nonsense. You are talking what somebody told you! Excuse me, let me... Cite me the study. What study? No, what studies are you talking about? You're talking about studies that actually don't exist. I want to talk about... Cite me the study that your're talking about it. I'm not here to defend... You say you see the studies, cite me the study This is not productive. I am not here to defend all of the pro- Let me finish! You're talking nonsense, you're making assertions you can't support. Yeah i'm not here to support what i'm saying it's like but you're the one saying it madam she's the one that brought it up He's the guest on her show. She's being argumentative and he's asking her for proof, and she says I can give you proof! And then it's like okay well we're not right now so I can't give any proof But like so many of these people it comes from their incredible ego that they have Let's look at who the participants are here Dana Bash is a professional teleprompter reader That's what she does

30:51 Bobby the K is a very very top-flight successful Litigator okay, you really don't want to get in an argument with that guy unless your guns are properly loaded and hers were not And she should have known that going into that interview You know you're not gonna win with him unless you're really really set set to go in here, and you're good with your With her verbiage, so she got her ass kicked. Sorry it is a completely different skill set being able to and there's a lot of really smart people who given the time could maybe come up with a coherent argument but

31:26 There are other ones like Marco Rubio seems to be and JD Vance, to a little lesser degree very quick with the answers and able to back it up which is why those interviews are always fun to watch as well. Have you noticed one guy that hasn't appeared anywhere at all? Recently I'll be bull a bit bull of Faisal. He's not coming into quiet nothing Yeah Why would that be? You never know where whatever happened to the back all right he's in Ohio, right? He's an Ohio That's it forbidden zone And this is the ending of that little left three part here

32:07 Let me just say for the record that I am not saying that the entire way that the COVID reaction was accurate. It was a scary time and people made mistakes, absolutely- You were scaring people! Why are you saying that? Because that was the job of CNN Okay, okay stop. Was to put the chyron's up about how many people are dying We were trying to be Yeah He is no wrong He is telling the truth To be fair, it wasn't just CNN. It was Fox and ABC I don't think there was one news organization on television No that wasn't playing the Johns Hopkins numbers and reporting on them like every five minutes or more people are dying Yeah, so it wasn't just CNN the funny thing is those John Hopkins numbers

32:58 the end of the movie Revealed the truth because America with a mere 360 million people Had more than twice the number of deaths of any other nation on earth including India China, you know So hey what went wrong in America moon something did? At that point they stopped talking about Johns Hopkins it was mishandled a little bit. You think yeah well It's also what happens when you take the medical care of your citizens and politicize it. Politicizing that kind of thing is not going to help, it just simply isn't. I mean being honest and transparent would be what would help but when... And it started with Donald Trump people like oh these guys never say anything bad about the Republicans well Donald Trump really really really wanted the win of having the vaccine

33:58 And he made it happen. But the vaccine was not perfect, but it's hilarious that the one thing they could have maybe got Trump on like oh no I'm really surprised the Democrats didn't go with vaccine was dangerous see Donald Trump did it because they tried to take credit for at first! Yeah but then they'd all be wrong so they can't do that because they were behind the vaccines and the masking and the closures of the world you know the shutdowns But the fascinating thing about that is it's the power of its politicization but it's also the power of those pharmaceutical companies because remember Trump came up with his operation warp speed right and then all reports claim That Bourla and his buddy over to Moderna they intentionally withheld releasing a vaccine until Joey was elected president

34:52 And that very likely was a major contributor to Trump's loss. So the power those guys wield, I think that in some way transcended politics because it was all sub rosa. Nobody ever said that at the time it just kind of happened. Very scary Donald Trump got him a bunch of money, and then they're like well. We still want the other guy we want the other guys gonna hold his back Yeah, and knowing that what they know that it would cure nothing and protect no one it's not like they killed any more people You know It's going to be a long time before if anybody ever does get to the accurate data on what is in? What is not the fault of

35:36 the vaccine and it's hard because including people like Dr. Fauci with his problems that he had, we covered that on the last show as well didn't report it to VAERS And here's actually, we have a Glenn Beck clip on that. You can never prove causation but the whole purpose is... The whole system is based upon people being honest about reporting all of the injuries that happen after vaccine and then you do an allergist and you say hey! We're seeing elevated levels of this, that and other if you don't report it

36:20 Nobody can make those kind of analysis and he did not report his. He didn't report it to the VAERS system, he didn't tell the public... And you know if so anyway that was... That's really not what I'm saying. He is a guy who claims to be science itself but is rejecting the scientific method on being able to find out something as safe or not Right Because The VAERS database was about Not proving anything but tracking as much evidence as possible. So if he believed in that, Dr Fauci and he ended up getting a pulmonary infarction himself but not reporting that the question then has to be again why do you not believe that these system works or is this all just scam? It is all a scam and and if you think about it overwhelmingly

37:13 The ardent support for all of that crap, for the vaccines and the masking and the mandates and shutdowns everything was very much from the left. Joey & Company right? They were the ones And let's look what is the first thing a left always does they screw around with vocabulary They CDC actually went in there and revised the definition of the word vaccine so it would conform to the garbage that they are injecting into people It's not a vaccine at all if you think about it. I mean it should have been called what? It was experimental gene therapy, but that never got any traction But things like polio tetanus smallpox yeah those were vaccines People got them and they didn't get to get those illnesses this was complete crap But they still called and they still do and it was really sad as guys like Bobby the K and other right-wingers Still referred to it as vacs its you know what exactly like

38:07 They're not illegal aliens, they're migrants. Right it's really kind of a no therapy more than a you know maybe it's like taking zinc you know before you hop on an airplane in the hopes that'll help you catch a cold? Nobody ever got a turbo cancer from zinc I wouldn't put into class with zinc but thought this was interesting as well because people in the media mainly want to make RFK jr out to be A complete vaccine skeptic, a complete anti-vaccine guy. But here he is talking about the measles vaccine, one that you know a vaccine that is actually a vaccine. RFK Jr. Is now urging parents to get their children vaccinated against measles He made that statement in an interview on CNN's State of the Union with Dana Bash The comments come after criticism over his response to recent outbreaks including a Texas outbreak that grew to nearly 800 cases and killed two children

39:08 Pennsylvania has reported more than 167 confirmed measles cases as the U.S faces its highest number of measles infection in 35 years. A measle vaccine is effective, it stops measles in about 97 percent of the cases but people should get vaccinated Yeah, officials say the most infections involve people who are unvaccinated or whose vaccination status is unknown. Experts warn outbreaks can continue in areas where vaccination rates fall below 95%. Well it's interesting that they're like oh or ones that vaccination rates are unknown well they could be vaccinated so I mean you don't...you can't really put data on somebody if it's an unknown you can't use that as proof if it's unknown.

39:58 Yeah, officials say the most infections involve people who are unvaccinated or whose vaccination status is unknown. No! It can't be... The unknown thing doesn't add to anything but that's okay you don't really expect the news media to actually know but that is a true vaccine 97% effective in preventing something which for everybody around remembers that that's the bill of goods we were sold on the COVID vaccine. It was 100% safe and effective, oh you weren't gonna get it you weren't gonna be able to transmit if you had the vaccine

40:40 Yeah, but remember how they started to dial it back. It was like what's this 95 burl I remember 95% of the vector 98 90 93 85 73 and then when they got down around in the mid 60s They just dropped it like 10 and outs that now we sound stupid so forget that they went away with the percentages He was really funny to listen to him watch well. No. What's funny? Going back and I think the clip was on Noah Genesis. You ever never miss an episode of Howie Mandel Arguing that they never said it was a hundred percent and never that it was gonna keep its like yeah, they did Yeah, but people remember different things and people are confused because they don't know exactly where to get their information I thought this wasn't interesting clip from

41:32 Big Bill O'Reilly, I mean he's been like 50 years in journalism. And i thought this made a really interesting point on the state of where news is today and I see a very big sampling from around the world of what people are interested in and one thing that has risen dramatically this year um...is confusion So many human beings, Americans and everybody else don't know or understand what is happening. And therefore they are susceptible to crazy stuff because they don't really know the basis of how President Trump for example makes a decision Or why trends are happening in our society or AI

42:35 or social media, what are the implications? They're confused. And I'm not saying this to be super silliest word of the day. Uh...I'm saying it because it's true and um...it's my job here at the No Spin News to clarify-this is what our job is-to clarify not to root Not to, you know push an ideology. We don't do that and some people get mad Some people won't even watch they want to hear Republicans are good or Democrats of a girl. Yeah, that's what they want to hear Okay I got it now what we do here clarity is what we shoot for

43:15 And is he right a hundred percent of the time or does he always keep his bias out? No, but this is what no, but buddy be bloviates 100% of that it that he does like you and me this I'm not a bloviator. I mean, she's a pain in the ass really that guy's like oh come on You've been known to be at a timer. I never blow via I never love you Lester What I'm accused of many many many things many crimes guilty of most bloviation Not one of them But it's true that people are completely unaware of the world around them, how to get valid information which is why you know we highly recommend the No Agenda show. Yes! Because that is part of the goal which is to go hey here's what the news media is doing and try to put this in a way that people can understand and tell them well this is why maybe

44:05 This source is being a little less than honest and a lot of what you're seeing now in the news is Is commie related? And I think it's funny. A lot of people like they kept making fun of Bernie Sanders It's like well, there's a good reason and even Bill O'Reilly got in on as long as we had that bill its double up It's not about shot. Okay. No how you like it. I'm gonna get you nice and in the right mood here I'm gonna go make a sandwich okay That's why I thought Sanders wants Alright, it's about the government telling the children what to think how to behave circumventing The traditional parenting because the communists know that out in the heartland Those people are never going to buy into the communist movement ever get the kids

44:58 And it's happened in colleges, American colleges. Very fine institutions have collapsed under the weight of progressive politics So don't say it's not possible Bernie Sanders has got to be the happiest guy in the country The discussion was that Sanders and Mandami in New York are demanding universal child care But its not really childcare Not And it would be 10% of the New York City budgets. They can never pay for it It's getting control of the children in a setting where they can be indoctrinated and that happens in every communist country from Vietnam to the Soviet Union Get the kids, and that's what Bernie Sanders and Mandani in New York City are desperately trying to do you know that?

46:01 Media will never report it. That's exactly what has happened. Can you disagree with that? I can say that's a blinding glimpse of the obvious and it has been going on for about 70 years. It was happening way before Mamdani or even Bernie, you know? What is this boomer slop you guys are playing? What are you doing?! Well who is this? Thank You! What is going on here!? Bill O'Reilly does anyone watch that guy anymore? Please...I'm being pummeled by this bloviating boob around me. I have learned, there were times that JCD would know how to trigger you and there were times you would know how to trigger JCD. That's the fun of the show isn't it? Well i'm triggered for sure me too! I'm sitting here like oh I gotta jump in with these guys now because this is going off the rails Can I just thank can just thank you both so much for jumping in man this has been So good for me and

47:05 Of course, I've listened to you. Mimi has not listened at all. Uh-oh! She's just been cleaning up the house. She told me stories man... she told me stories But you stepped into this and took it over and were just driving the bus. I'm so appreciative of that. This is really... And by the way Hello trolls! Stupid trolls. Good to see y'all I only have one comment on everything you've been doing Only one And it's Darren, it's you Uh oh! I should run When you knight somebody You have to hit them with the swords Y'know? Ya gotta hit them! We did that last time, I think the first time we missed hitting

47:56 I must have missed it, must have drowned out. They're all like black knights or non-hit nights or there's something that they'll call themselves Yeah So um...I guess i should tell you what's going on Tell us Man First of all I have Survivors guilt this is very weird. I didn't expect this and It's really like there's been two deaths. I'm not trying to equate one with the other But John just being gone all of a sudden was just was weird You know yes, and and of course we never texted We never spoke with it was rarely any time that we talked except on the show

48:51 We talk right before, you know. And really when I took over the stream the first time we talked was after The Fat Lady and he'd either have his robot voice or something wrong with his settings and of course he never changed a thing obviously Yeah, and then we just do the show. And then after the show you'd be surprised I mean it was literally...I turned off his noise gate so i could hear what he was doing which is typically eating something or shaving that's like... What? He shaved a real electric razor? Okay! Yes yes I'm like that's disgusting stop it! Maybe shaving

49:28 And, you know because I'd throughout the show. I'd mark different spots that we might use for the opening bit and so I'd gather them all and then cue him by saying you ready? Okay, and they play him then we decide what we wanted Then it would be credits Then we look for the art than the show title and then he would basically just hang out and doodle and do whatever He was doing until we both confirmed that the show was up Confirmed that it was on the site because there's all these moving parts. The RSS feed has to go, the OPML file has to be right, the redirect has to be in place and then if you're lucky refresh, refresh it shows up on noagendashow.net And then literally alright talk to you Thursday okay bye That would be it. That would be it! And so that ended but I also realized what we did end

50:25 You know, what we did was not Adam and John. It was the combined thing you know? And I've seen some... There's this one guy who is on X. I just love what he is doing He's grieving in his own way as I see many people doing And he's going through every single show from episode number one and he's making a post about his impressions. Right, so... Yeah and then he gets to episode seven and is like oh wait a minute now I see it was never really about the news deconstruction it was you guys! Oh yeah that's correct But that really hit me hard because I realize I can't recreate that

51:15 You know, I can't. No matter what i do and then... And you know, I've been looking at the five stages of grief and one of those stages is negotiation And I can see Noah Jenenation negotiating, you know. Well you should do it with... When someone got to, You Should Do The Show With Jen Briney? I'm like okay Can you get to the anger stage please! You need to move on! I like Jen Briney but no, no, that's And, okay this is a crap analogy because you know people say well it was like Laurel and Hardy Simon & Garfunkel but no scratch Simon and Garfunkel. But in a way Lennon McCartney not that we are anywhere near the level of that genius but you know they basically made songs with three chords You know? It was a moment in time when the band broke up

52:16 You know, to this day people still talk about the Beatles. Right. And I'm sure if Lennon hadn't been shot he would have still had a career doing stuff apart from McCartney maybe once in awhile they get together and do some kind of show People have called me and said well you know it's like Rush Now i'm not a big Rush fan I never was either You know, I never really got the appeal of it. Oh, I liked... No, I never got that Was it Mexican radio? No that was REM What was the spirit of radio? Was that Rush? Right

52:53 I mean really the prog stuff, I never really got into. More with the rock and roll pre-show with people that would request it and then you realize these are some damn good musicians! Well all the Rush fans in my life...and there's two One is Dave Jones from Podcasting 2.0, podcastindex.org We've been friends for 16 years But he's not one of those rabid ones like, okay I hear you. But he is definitely the best band in the world. Best band in the world hands down! The other one... who else do you think was a big Rush fan that you would know? You have to give it up. Andrew Horowitz. No way! Yes

53:38 And they both gave me the same analogy, and I drew the same conclusion. They said you wouldn't... The drummer Neil Peart? I think Neil Peart? Yes So he died and they brought in... Yeah well basically oh the band is over it's dead it's over It's no good. Then they brought into German woman who was a really good drummer And so they both said, but you know when they play the sphere in Vegas I'll go. He says yeah, I don't want to be like a nostalgia act Right You know it's like oh well when you know When they do this or that then up Then i'll go and check them out you know? So this has been the hardest hardest thing for me because at the same time

54:26 I'm going to be 62 in September. What do i want to do with the rest of my life? Do I literally have 18 more years, you know? Do I get it get to be 80? Do I get to me 90? I don't know! You know what do I want to do That's a weird question, you know when you've been doing something for going on 19 years like do I want to continue this is Do I want to spend years building up but a new rapport with somebody? I mean, I don't have the answers. I really don't it It's just me. You know, I also don't want to be the Silver Beetles, you know No agenda to become the Silver Beatles

55:06 And what really hit me the hardest is there's a saying, it's actually biblical scripture but you've heard it in different contexts. You can't put new wine into old wineskins because they'll burst and you ruin both. So I'm still struggling with how this needs to move forward but I am certain of one thing That it is up to Noah Jendon Nation who have always, always driven the show. I mean we started off with 25 minutes and literally said this is going to be a show without jingles without sound effects no nonsense were just gonna be talking and that'll be IT!

55:51 And it wasn't it. Now, I'd started with numerology with donation numbers as we quickly figured out the value for value model and and I don't think I have produced a single bit or anything for the show ever except... I did the fisting nuts. I produced that. That was great! And that was Emmy award winning. Thank you! I'm waiting for my golden glow Yeah, but everything else was produced by Noah Jen the nation. And so when you guys step in and and ham you have a great rapport and of course You know people like well it's it's not this is not that yeah But if course it's not of course right? It's not of course not are you having fun by the way do you enjoy it No

56:46 I mean, is it... hold on. I'm asking you a guess Is it weird? You haven't done Planet Rage Have you put that in abeyance while doing this Yeah, I can only talk to Larry for so many hours a week That's actually a good point The weirdest thing is No Agenda was the place that I got majority of my news if I wasn't listening to the boomer Bill O'Reilly So now its like Oh wait! I have to pay attention more news sources and So I mean for that part it's a little weird, but it is an honor to be able to keep up the tradition which is This is your show anytime you want it back. So that's You know kind of what we going into this with the mindset and its Larry likes the negative comments as well It's like hey We're just doing what we can do to do a show in

57:38 the similar vein to keep people entertained and it's like well what do you do if your choice is this or nothing then, you get to choose that is the bottom line. What have you been doing to Weston Wee Wax Adam? That's what I was wondering about To Weston Wee Wax? Western Wee Wax Well, I mean there's also this other stuff going on. You know, I have a granddaughter and she was literally born within 24 hours span of JCD passing away so that was like crazy and we just gotten back from Europe we waited two weeks baby didn't come you know had to come back for all kinds of reasons

58:23 And so, you know we've been trying to schedule to go back which were doing at the end of the month. Of course there's been a tonne of stuff that we've had to arrange I mean... Sure John and I started No Agenda on handshake not even-I don't think we shook hands on it just like oh do this okay and then I'll do the production You do all the backup whatever Yeah And that was kind of it and they grew out a little bit more and we wound up Eric the shill, of course we had him initially doing back office and he moved to South Dakota. And Jay stepped in and by the way, Jay has been the rock star I mean this young woman who is I think 30 about 30 but Chrissy about 39, let me have a little bit over 30 who was pregnant she's having a baby in October

59:17 She has just jumped in, is doing the newsletter. Is still managing spreadsheets and back office and people with questions but it's also been really there for her mom she's been managing the entire memorial. So I've been tendentially involved in that, you know? So I pick up the phone as often as I can to talk to Mimi see how she's doing what was really cool she got this is no agenda nation our producers i'm not sure exactly well...I kind of know but without outing anybody The president and first lady sent a beautiful note to Mimi

59:58 Wow. And it was signed and everything, it was just like... you know? And rightly so! This is kind of our spooks out there who are like hey man we love you guys We're just gonna talk to the president have him send off- dash off a little note I mean stuff like that um and she's You know, she's cleaning up the house and she's finding all kinds... literally there is an envelope a huge envelope filled with stuff that John was going to send to me. With stamps and everything just never sent it you know? So John was actually bit of hoarder that wasn't a bet No he was 100% hoarder

1:00:40 That's why I was never allowed this and no one will ever see the the office. I guess I think Mimi is gonna lock that down and burn in torture Whatever she's going to do, but it also does talking to Tina about this being an archivist or a hoarder It's useless it absolutely is I mean he didn't get to do any anything with it if now It's just a big pain in the butt yes. You know he has hollow books everywhere with stuff inside of it So But of course, when we kind of got the warning shot when he went in for his double bypass. That's when you realize like okay passwords, he hadn't really kept up with the passwords so we were lucky that we got everything but there is going back to a handshake so eventually the IRS said

1:01:36 What's up with all these checks in this cash? What do you got what's these checks for three dollars and thirty-three cents, you know? What kind of racket are you guys running? I'm so we you know And they and they said well We think you should have an LLC in here is how you should do it. Mmm, and so we did that and so as 5050 and You know Do you realize that there's bank stuff and all kinds of things that you you know, you can't You can't do unless one of the two owners of the LLC is there. So, you know when I go to we're leaving tomorrow for San Francisco for the memorial on the 8th on Saturday Monday were going to the bank so it's just a lot of stuff that has to be fixed and wrapped up and taken care of

1:02:21 And in the meantime, it's been very interesting. You know again Tina and I we've had to really lean into our faith too. It's like what is going on? Overnight everything changed! Everything! You always think oh have a little bit more time to do stuff and figure stuff out... What do you want to do so we don't have that luxury And, you know... no matter what happens obviously it's going to affect our income. That's just a fact of life You know people are gonna fade out new people will come in no matter what happens No matter what goes on So we're just trying to figure out where we stand and you know What plans do we have? Yeah Maybe get yourself into Zen state Adam Sorta throttle back and everything

1:03:14 Like I'm seeing you on a pontoon boat maybe Mimi has a super soaker filled with Things sort of you get out of the weeds and the fog and things become more clear, I think Yeah, and I do want to thank Sir Chris Wilson and Mike Riley and Dame Kenny. There's a lot of people that have popped back up that were kind of going under the radar to pitch in... You're making a great point This is what I love this is what I'm seeing And this is what I would love to see more of while you guys are sitting here on this spot first of all I'm not leaving. I'm not sure what I'm gonna Do uh? You know

1:04:04 I'm just not sure, but obviously no agenda is a part of my life. There's no doubt about that But i do want to do some other things as well and I love seeing people coming back and saying oh no we can do stuff We we can continue to reinvent no agenda by the way if anyone can fix that horrible Opening jingle I made for the guys Please do something completely different, but we need we need to retire that stuff Whatever it is please somebody send something for Sunday show this just get rid of that That has to you know that has to end. Yeah those

1:04:53 I mean, that just has to end. Create a new wineskin please for these gentlemen. Right something that seems a little more you know new as opposed to your popped into dimension B and your hearing a different no agenda. Yes yes So, while we have this opportunity let's freshen things up a little bit. And I say that because again I never did any of this work ever! Yeah... I mean I didn't create the opening, I don't remember who did it? I know the first voice is Dave Foxx, double X Dave Foxx He was the voice of Z100 and um... What would they got bought by Cumulus I want to say

1:05:39 that he was doing production for whatever big radio network Z100 eventually became a part of. And he did those years and years and years ago, I think it's in Texas now, he's retired, probably 100 but it has also been interesting how friends of ours recognize what we're going through all our friends know about the show all them listen or listen sometimes or check-in And, you know they've been like taking us out to dinner. You know spur of the moment which is really really sweet and of course I'm like well since they got no job you gotta pick up the tab! But i've been...you know that two people who I notice are about really hurting along with everybody is Horowitz

1:06:35 He, you know he just had a meniscus operation so he's kind of immobile right now but I can tell. You know it's like... ...He's suffering too! His show DH Unplugged was on almost as long as No Agenda. Yeah it started like a year or so after I think right? Maybe even less than a year yeah So he's going through the same thing It's like well now what do I do Oh, completely. Completely and he's done the show with Buzzkill Jr but it's this exact same problem Andrew and John would talk about stocks and financial markets and turkey sandwiches you know? And wearing Crocs or whatever or Speedo shoes or whatever nonsense they got into So he is going through a very similar thing

1:07:29 It was all a part of no agendization. There was cross promotion and stuff like that Now the other person which has been quite I didn't realize it right off the bat is Dana Brunetti He and John would talk all the time Really? Yeah, I didn't know this And you know Brunetti Essentially, I think he gave up on Hollywood and bought The Farm and put all his his scandalous sex movie money, you know 50 Shades of Grey. 50 shades pays off! That's right put it into land and he said I've never worked as hard in my life and you know he's out on the ranch but... You know he would take his gummy in the evening and call Dvorak And so now is calling me like dude wrong time zone I'm sitting down to dinner right now can't talk to him But yeah so I talked to him So

1:08:25 This week is still, you know weird obviously because after we get on a plane tomorrow and I got to think about what i'm going to say at the memorial. What do you say in the memorial? What am I gonna wear? What am I gonna say? You know it's like... I said it all on the show. I don't want to be reading from piece of paper there will be all kinds of interesting people there. You remember the good times You remember the laughter. I mean that's it you in this, but you know there are Times when people die where it's you know they're young and nobody saw it coming They didn't have a full life That's sad JCD lived a kick-ass life well. You could just go for a laugh and say what you're saying in Dutch We don't know what he's saying

1:09:19 Oh man. Yeah, maybe I just do that. Remember the time when he took a gummy and he was still high the next day and you got on the show? Why not? Show number please! I'd like to... I can't remember what that was go to bingit.io And so Sunday I'd love to check in with you guys again to tell you about the memorial, how everything went. Now there's also Jaye's baby shower on Sunday which is actually scheduled for Saturday because 8-8 is the Dvorak number as you know that's also their wedding anniversary so lots of eights and

1:10:01 Man, I'm expecting a crap ton of meetup reports. Have you seen the meetup list? Yes that's taking place this coming weekend It's crazy what that that really warms my heart man that there are so many people just want to Yeah, memorialize John. Think about him you know get together and I hope that continues these meetups I hope if this show blew up right now that people would still do that That is the win of the show Is have you ever been to a meetup Larry? A couple of them yeah terrific I mean I got to meet Dane Kenney Bennett one here in Connecticut Oh perfect And what's so great about him is that You get together like I never would have met this person unless it was an Oagina Meet Up

1:10:49 And people who are inherently introverted and shy, I see it over and over again. They come to the meetup they're like, open up! This is my people we're all messed up We're all nuts. We're all kooky It's perfect. I love that. I hope that always continues And then we'll just see where we go if you guys are good with me coming in on Sunday and maybe We'll see what we do the next Thursday. I hope that would really be good if you don't I'll be mad at you Meanwhile What's going on with? With Michigan man, what's going on with it with the this is this tell me if I got this right okay so

1:11:35 Now we all know Dearborn, Michigan of course you know the Muslims are taking over. I can't believe that actually had to fight off some Islamists right outside my door here in Texas as you know there's mosques everywhere just popping up all the time We're all gonna die now Dearborn and we have producers in Dearborn they like yeah it was a lot of Arab Americans but okay but you look on X it's like you think that you know we're living in the Middle East and at the end is near But these Democrat socialists, these DSA guys. So this... what is it? El-Sayed? Is that his last name who won't say Abdul Abdul El Sayyid Yeah so I think this is great

1:12:18 And he's running for senator? Is that it? Yeah. So this is great because, you know just because people who showed up to a primary voted this guy in and we know exactly how primaries work This guy will never be Senator Not in Michigan You would think... No, no. We need more of these idiots. More of these idiots need to be winning primaries but then the crazy thing is you had the what is the guy that Trump backed for Michigan 8 I think it was. What was his name? Hold on a second

1:13:08 We need Net-Net, he knows everything about it. Amir... yes Amir Hassan. So I think what happened here is that Amir Hassan loses to a guy who had dropped out of the race. Dropped out of the race! And i think its because you know the media was so strong about oh the Muslims are like oh that must be that Muslim guy no im not gonna vote for him You know, this country... our country is in big trouble. Big trouble! Yeah I brought some clips with me of the Al Sayed guy first. Alright y'all look i wish i could tell you that i was declaring victory right about now turns out it takes a long time to count some votes in michigan

1:13:52 It's a big state. Listen to that cadence, who does he sound like? Barack Obama Yes! He is-he's like he has been hanging out with him having coffee That's amazing Look at his face, he has been trained to smile by Mandanda He never leaves his mug No kidding It's etched on his face Yeah It's crazy Turns out it takes a long time to count some votes in Michigan Count some votes in Michigan! There! Barack Obama It's a big state Big State Across that movement that we built, there was an inspiration in the idea that we could take our government back. Take it back! Government of the people by the people and for the people instead of government of the corporations by the special interests... No! Yeah yeah yeah!

1:14:45 It's all 12-year olds. I can hear them. Give me some free stuff! A lot of that history was built on a set of foundational errors. Whatever happens tonight, we have a responsibility to assure that we unite to make sure that Mike Rogers never sees the inside of the US Senate. Now, this is interesting. Mike Rogers is a tool. We've always thought this guy was a loser didn't we? Yeah wasn't he like adm- He was military guy and he would always be on Fox and he was always talking about yeah no we got to do that unless I have the wrong Mike Rogers in front of me. I think that's the guy. I think that's the guy

1:15:32 So, first of all, man it's so funny. I live in Hill Country Texas and people here like they're winning! They're winning! It's a primary okay? Shh shh shhh...it's the Democratic primary calm down Yeah but they're coming they're coming this is it we're done just look at London Look at England Look at France Look everywhere That took 25 years And you know why? Because nobody voted. The idiots stayed home, went whatever and apathy pure apathy and there's one other little interesting thing that happened here with his victory over rep Haley Stevens behind him. Al Sayed will now face the challenge of trying to unify the split factions of the party ahead of the general

1:16:22 That's no small task. El Sayed and his progressive agenda were up against more than $60 million in outside spending, and an opponent backed by top Democrats in Michigan and beyond. But he had a lot of money of his own too but of course one of the sources of Haley Stevens support came from AIPAC related groups which became- What? A really big talking point in this entire runup to the primary yesterday. What?! APAC didn't rig the election? What?! Israel didn't win, they spent $60 million dollars. Can we take that off the table once and for all just because you got APAC money doesn't mean you're gonna win there's the proof right there. You say he is never going to win but everybody said that about New York too with Mamdani at first although

1:17:18 New York's a slightly different system than... Yeah, they're stack-rank voting and it's a mayoral election. But that, Mondani is definitely the writing on the wall where I used to live in the UK in Guilford My buddy still lives there. He had clubs, he had awesome pole dancing clubs just the best. Michelle Harper my buddy from Guilford. It's good for your abs yeah? Oh it was great house in Saint Tropez I mean the works right perfect But everything has been shut down and there's a Islamist mayor. And this is still a town built around a church, Church of Englands the kids would all hang out where you going? Going to the church grounds because it was just it was a big part of the whole town and now they start off with Muslim prayer

1:18:15 You know, the whole is just changed but it's because nobody... they just let it go. They're just so well whatever you know and and like we're Americans like what are we worried about? Just stop that! Yeah there's a little more fight hopefully like the Irish they're finally turning in a little bit around and say no we don't want this Which Irish where are the Irish doing this? Show me the Irish There were some of them when all these When was there a girl that was like beaten? There's a bunch of things going on and I mean, I'm not saying anything is going to change but there were at least people in the streets that were

1:18:57 Trying to do something although will their government listen that's a different question Yeah, but you got to run for government. That's the point if you want it You want it? You don't want mosques in your neighborhood get on the zoning board hello It's not that hard there's three other people who might be your opponents is not that hard I mean our church literally elected our mayor here in Fredericksburg we have 11 thousand people and 1,000 people attend our church. There's 20 churches in the area but I think we're one of the biggest And one of the guys in our church said, yeah I'm gonna stand for mayor because we don't really like this particular person who's running for mayor. We think she has some liberal policies that we don't want and so we motivated everybody to vote he won by 55 votes but it was only 600 votes you know wasn't like the whole town came out right it is not that hard now

1:19:57 Arguably, when I interviewed him and did a podcast with him we had about 75 people listening. Maybe that was it! I don't know. The whole boat knows! Who knows but it's not that hard you know run for Run for City Council run for school board everyone sit at home on their on there on their phone Yeah, they want to bitch on X. But not actually No, no now the president he just he just bitches in front of large crowds disaster known as Not socialism, communism. It's communism. These are communists and the polls were wrong again last night when they thought it would be a landslide victory for a hater of Jews and a hater of Israel this guy hates Jews somebody said oh that's a little strong no he hates Jews and he hates Israel Abdul El Sayed do you believe this? This could only happen to me

1:21:02 Abdul El-Sayed, lovely gentleman. He's a man of hate and now he is going around saying no I love everybody. He doesn't love everybody put him in office you're gonna find out what he loves He doesn't love Israel. He doesn't love Jewish people, he hates them. He hates them with a passion that burns in his heart and there's not a freaking thing you can do about it. There is not a thing he can do about it cuz he hates him. And then of course we have the punchline- He does not love Israel. It has loved Jewish people. He hates them when I watch Abdul He's full of shit. There we go, that's your president everybody let's see this is CNN. Before we get into everything else and there's a lot for us to talk about what is your response to the President? I'm glad he thinks I'm a lovely gentleman A lot of people think so look you know this is the response that they have This by the way is the Mondani

1:22:03 DSA training. I think Mamdani said this exact same thing, the exact same response and these guys they're organized man They are definitely organized. To the president. I'm glad he thinks i'm a lovely gentleman A lot of people think so Look, this is the response that they have. You notice what he talked about first look at the background it says no tax on tips The man can't stay on focus That's like the one thing that he did to offer any economic relief But instead of that He's more focused on me And what I'm gonna do while we're living through an affordability crisis that is generational, people are paying nearly $5 in gas because of the war he started and half the time if he's not talking about me, he's talking about the drapes.

1:22:48 In his ballroom. Yeah, yeah, okay We had a clip of this guy last show Adam and so chilling because it was something he didn't believe is being recorded and he was talking to Someone who was oh did he sound completely differently like AOC Oh totally different He said but what he was saying was it was really creepy because it wasn't like I'm running for senator. He was saying I'm the guy that's going to craft the dialogue of the next program. President and I'm gonna do it with memes. I've got a dilute and reduce the our policies to to plate to A level where for the masses can understand them more clearly in other words camouflage them And um, it was incredible It was just like what who is this guy? I mean when I heard that I thought is he just running for senator or as he part of some larger cabal of evil Was very very creepy

1:23:44 Well, the DSA started with... what was the name of the group? The Freedom Democrats. Justice Democrats I think that was Cenk from Young Turks was a part of that yeah They had quite a little machine going for awhile And just to remind everybody, they literally found Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in a bar and had her audition. She thought she was just going for like an actress audition. It's much better paid role! She was. Yeah well yeah it's good gig but no at this point I'd she's molded she says she's a politician we've been watching the West Wing we've been rewatching the west which i never really watched

1:24:36 Back in the day because let's face it, I was on MTV. Why would you waste my time watching television please? Man it is worth watching for two reasons one you can see all of the policies of Obama All of them, all of them. But also you see that how the sausage is really made and nobody gives a crap about the American people It's all about deals and who do we get for this? And ultimately it's like oh yeah well We want to have a national seatbelt law because it'll save 5,000...it's all statistics They're completely disconnected from from the world

1:25:12 And I think we should take some of that back. We can't, and the way to do that is with free groceries. Question about the essential basket of goods you said they're going to be 30% cheaper than they would be at the grocery store down the street or even if there's one not down the street where it's a food desert How are you gonna keep people from taking advantage of that deal, basically? And is there going to be a limit on the number of items that someone can take that are discounted at that level from that essential basket. So our RFP makes very clear that this is- I love this answer no one picks up on this. Right, the RFP. The RFP! Mamdani and his little associate lady there they talk about the RFP which is a request for proposals. From a company

1:25:56 That's like a... It's advertising. Well, yeah! I mean, I've written hundreds of RFPs when i was doing websites and campaigns for big brands and they would say well our RFP you know like Gillette, Gillette was good it was a customer, it was a good example And their RFP called me Can you imagine that there is a shareholders meeting And they ask about some very strategic thing and the chairman of Gillette says, well our RFP says this. What does that even mean? So you have a request for proposals out there

1:26:36 that is going to be hopefully answered properly and then it'll run well. Who's running this? It's like commies, there you go. So our RFP makes very clear that this is a program for New Yorkers to be able to put food on the table not a program for people to be able to make a quick buck through reselling I'm gonna pass it over to our EDC head G Pack to add some additional details What's your name GB chock Chad what I love this, but i'm going to pass that on to the person who wrote the RFP because I really don't know what we're talking about. Exactly! Just imagine writing the RFP it's one page make sure New Yorkers can put food on the table well crap I'll do that all right here's your free grocery store now give me the money and she does the same thing

1:27:26 Yes, if you look at our RFP for the operator we the operator We don't even know who the operator is isn't the city of New York. The operator what is happening here? They've got a higher five different people for one in each borough to do Yes, if you look at our fee for the operator We are looking to make sure that we target New Yorkers whether it be a sort of a library card squat one and also we manage who's buying and It's and that is focused on everyday New Yorkers So we are mindful of that And so we're gonna make sure that we have all the place all the things in place to make ensure that does not happen Yeah In other words ID cards. And of course as you know, Fox News is all over that like well

1:28:09 ID card to get free groceries but not the vote. And I see you Sir Benro, Sir Benro's like well you can't stand for elections if it's all rigged dude dude what kind of that's like what are you laying on your back? With you with your paws in the air Don't give up your Ben Rose no hey we got paper ballots here in Fredericksburg I'll tell you that. We just made sure that happens bum done done done done yeah But I actually have a clip here, when he, what ma'am Downey went on Joy Reid. Cuz you know it where they're not really asking for ID. We're talking about a city run grocery store one in each borough which by the way you do not need an id to shop at matter of- Did see the laugh tale? I learned from Adam and John. The laugh tale! Yeah yeah nice. You do not need an id to shop that matter what you've just heard in the news of today we are talking about. Really dude come on

1:29:10 actually addressing the question of skyrocketing grocery prices. We've seen in the last six or seven years alone, an increase in grocery prices of around 30%. And we are going to be delivering a city run grocery store one on each borough five and total that will have these staples of a shopping experience and essential basket of goods that are discounted by 30% compared to typical retail prices. And that is something New Yorkers will be able to feel In their pocket they'll Yeah and the... Wait, wait a minute. So it's not free? It's discounted? Oh yeah! So it's a non-profit essentially Well they're basically saying they're going to lose about 20 some odd percent on every person that comes in the door which is uh it's a subsidy but it's also going to

1:29:59 Create food deserts because if you're running a bodega near one of these places You're probably not gonna be selling any of the staples that this store will have For as ever how long these stores last anyway It okay. This is interesting I thought it was gonna be free now that that was the that was the initial sell it wasn't oh, no Yeah, it's gonna be free and everything will be groovy Well, free buses were sold too right? That didn't happen. Free buses... Yeah that hasn't happened either I presume no but the wheels on the bus go round and round Round wheels singing it so this basically playing on the affordability crisis there was the chairman of Bank of America was on CNBC in a different context because he was there to say

1:30:55 Boy, we didn't go bankrupt because of that 24 year old wunderkind who had the AI hedge fund that blew up. Did you follow that? Not closely. Oh so it was this kid who was Then I can say kid, he's 24. Ex-Open AI then he left with a lot of money. I'm sure he left, he sold his inside shares and he started a hedge fund and he wrote this paper which like the oil baron sent it to me and all that like look at this! This is genius! This is boy wonder! It was like 80 pages yeah it was all these complicated formulas you know stuff with with you know

1:31:35 squiggle there and a epsilon all these different yeah I don't know what this means but basically invest in my hedge fund you'll get rich and he grew it from three billion to 45 billion and then but it was all leveraged yes and and he had made a bet that the traditional software firms you know that probably I would say like Salesforce and lots of other companies that make specialized software for finance, and other types of industries. They would tank and they didn't so he got in a short squeeze and then Bank Of America through their Citadel, Citadel think it is? Their hedge fund bought him out

1:32:21 you know, pennies on the dollar or whatever. But that could have completely destroyed Bank of America! So the guy was on in that context and they ask him about affordability and I think what he's saying here is true and this is something John and I would talk about all the time when it came to are we in a depression? Are we in a recession? It was all really what we think we're in.

1:33:02 and rent costs, which are still rising but at a less fast rate. It's around insurance costs which actually came back in line it's around food cost and gas cost so if the deal gets worked out and gas prices come back down that takes away one of the concerns but its a real issue The say-do paradox is about as high as I've ever seen it. So that's what the polls say and it's how people feel Say do paradox. Say Do Paradox? Haven't heard of that one before, that's fresh And I think it's true. I think you had a lengthy Dutch surname Adam if I recall correctly

1:33:38 No, it's not Dutch. It's Moynihan oh no then it's a different guy His very similar story and he I think he lost like 65 billion in all this is wonder kid And he published this vast document that wowed everybody and then Moynihan No, it was something like Aachen Schloss. It began with an a and ended with two s's I can't remember what was in the middle Yeah, but that's the kid! That's the kid you're talking about Hold on a second Situational awareness. Yes, that was part of the headline yes yes yes yes That's it Here is the intro Again this firm I'm told began the year at around $3 billion in assets under management hit a high as i said of net NAV of 45 billion as of July 1st and you know what the month has been like since NAV is Net Asset Value for those wanting to know

1:34:30 And so huge reversals, huge losses had to cover them and has done so. The bulk of its public equities as we've been reporting but now it can tell you as well has gone to Citadel. The motivation behind Citadel buying this book? Your thoughts? Well first of all they're up right now on it I mean they have ample liquidity to be able to actually... This has changed so much, of course. I knew a number of people who were negotiating for various parts of the portfolio through some of their prime brokers but if you can get it all done in one fell swoop with a firm like that- And blah blah actually i should have played this clip this is this is the breaking! All right let's bring in David Faber who's back with us on an update on the hedge fund situation awareness yes we've been following of course all morning um

1:35:16 May even have more in a moment, but let me just share with you what we can confirm. Which is that the bulk of the public equities portfolio at Situational Awareness, the giant hedge fund that had net asset value of some $45 billion led by that man at the beginning of July has been sold to The Hedge Fund Of Citadel Yes, has been sold. So here's Moynihan this was the original context talking about I think he's saying that dodge the bullet Let me ask you a question on the other side of that which is situational awareness They were climbing your firm you lent to them? I think we're all still trying to grapple with the aftermath of that what happened well as anything changed in terms of

1:35:57 your lending standards to hedge funds and other firms in the aftermath of this? So one, two things. One I think things changed as people saw this move and there's a natural adjustment period. I think anytime one of these happens we're fine etc., you always look and say okay what happened should be learned from it should change. And so the tendencies that tighten the underwriting standard is just a hair to adjust especially with big run ups in stock. We'll see what happens next but But it's these are all warning shots of as Joe was talking about valuations get out leveraging system gets there you have to be careful and We run a great shop. And so

1:36:33 Had Ken Griffin not come in though, I mean how damaging would have that been? I think we'd have been fine. Based on the standards that we planned on and- That would be fine. But the reality is you have to go learn from every lesson of the past so the natural instinct of everybody who participates is wait a second let's go back and look at it has a tendency to push down a little bit. Yeah okay, that sounded like he dodged the bullet Yeah, nothing bad could have happened. I we'd have been good so you you had the laugh till by Mondani mom Donnie There was this other woman X open AI board member just to kind of stay in and AI stuff and You know so we've all been following the news how these? AI frontier model labs

1:37:28 Frontier Model Labs, how they all are selling that they have the best model because well we broke into those guys. Yeah we broke into them and you know Meta just yesterday? Well our Muse Spark model what a gay name that is! Our Muse Spark model should have been sparkle Yeah, right. It broke it also got out and we have dangerous models too so this is their marketing which has turned just turned everybody against AI it's crazy so here's a version of well so now you know the White House they want

1:38:06 Excuse me and what these models want Is to build? What they call in business a moat around their business So that no one can touch him and the biggest problem is open source. The open-source models I run them Darin you run whisper probably on your on your Mac. Oh, yeah Whisper You know, there's no reason to pay these exorbitant prices for some basic work. It's like no it is not necessary so they want to have either an international panel or different a

1:39:04 The White House is coming up with an AI testing framework. The White House today hosting AI companies to discuss the framework for federal testing of new AI models, President Trump is not expected to attend that meeting focuses on an executive order though that the president signed back in June but set up a voluntary program for companies to test and vet AI systems for safety issues before they're publicly released The White House has not detailed the framework itself and the standards used to test the models are remaining classified. NBC News White House correspondent Yamiche Alcindor joining us now to discuss more on this, so Yamiche what risks I guess are this AI evaluation program designed to address? And I think for many folks they're gonna want to know is this a precursor to perhaps a push for more regulation around AI?

1:39:51 So ABC brings on this ex-OpenAI board member. I'm sure it was a woman who was pushed off, pushed out, get out... You're a pain in the butt because they changed from a nonprofit to protect the world from the dangerous AI She was probably in one of those orgy cult things What was that this like the Sam Bankman freeze Polycure thing going on yeah, yeah? What was the it wasn't a altruism effective altruism with that? Yeah that sounds like effective ulcer is altruistic And so she is part of 1,300 employees that are saying hey we need an emergency brake. We need a brake pedal. We need a ripcord something to stop it when these models go out of control and you want to talk about a tell listen to this lady. What's your biggest concern right now about the rapid development of AI?

1:40:46 My biggest concern is what I'm hearing from inside the companies and in particular just this past... What was that about lady? I'll give her one but not what comes. Just this past week we saw 1,300 employees of top AI companies saying that they don't think they have a brake pedal and they They hope that outsiders, the government, civil society and public can help them build a brake pedal so they can go slower if they need to. They don't really understand the technology that they're building and as we saw with these recent incidents, they have trouble controlling it

1:41:23 I think that's reason for concern. And we've seen some of this from the top AI leaders as well, but it's kind of a remarkable development here you've got these leaders saying hey stop us from doing what we're doing every single day because we can't stop ourselves like neither these people know what they're talking about which is great and here's more how about this legislation being pushed by bipartisan doer in Congress right now calling for a kill switch on AI? Do you see it get any progress would it make any difference Yeah, this is a bill I think you know it's gonna be tough to get anything through this Congress This is representative Lou and Moran so bipartisan bill as you say To me one interesting thing about this bill. Is that it calls for AI companies to be able to kill switch for their models And some people in whenever she sells kills which she can't say no when it went from guardrails to kills with guardrails pedal kill switch

1:42:16 I gotta hear that again. ...through this Congress, this is Representatives Liu and Moran... Maybe maybe i'm giving her too much here maybe she just is like so nervous to be talking to Stephanopoulos. She sounds as if she's wound tighter than a golf ball. I mean really well... Partisan bill as you say To me one interesting thing about this bill is that it calls for AI companies to be able to have a kill switch for their models And some people in industry, when you tell them this they say that's ridiculous. Of course we can turn the models off at any time no problem other people say in industry This is a ridiculous bill there's no way we can do this these are distributed systems You know they're out in multiple data centers all at once trying to implement This would kill us and so I'm just trying to figure out It seems pretty reasonable to want to be able to shut down an AI system if it's doing things We don't want to Can we already do that? If not how do we get there

1:43:08 This is so infantile. I actually had a version of an out-of-control agent the other day No! You're all kind of agents Yes, in JCD's memory i will tell the story Please So I have four agents running and what they are doing most of time is gathering stories finding different things for the show And presenting me with options and then...I've actually trained it Pretty well to make clips so you know it can it can find an arc. It selects it It cuts it does all of that stuff I've had that running for months, and never told John That I was doing it to that extent because I knew that

1:43:52 If there was a bad clip, he would immediately go, oh that's your robot. It's no good you should be doing the work yourself. Yeah okay right? It's your AI! Their AI is no good. They'd have a conversation afterward like yeah anyway so I never told him that um So i've been working at... You know this I have a company called Godcaster with two partners And we're doing streaming music radio stations for churches, turn them into local radio stations. All Christian contemporary music and And so I kind of vibe coded that whole thing and Dave and Paul, they run the player side web players in the app. And that has a very important role in how this works and how you syndicate it to different churches. So basically... You guys remember the old satellite stations? Sure! Where you get this main feed off the satellite and then they'd hit a tone

1:44:48 Then that would fire the cart machine on your end and it would insert the local station ID or a commercial mm-hmm The good old days I mean, that's how it used to work And what you know and sometimes we even hear poop you could even hear that tone on the air So it's a version of that so I have one agent which is building building that and And then another agent, and I said watch what this agent is doing because... ...I think it may be screwing some stuff up. So this is kind of my main mission control agent that does a lot of different stuff but it kinda looks to make sure the other agents aren't doing stuff that's too weird

1:45:29 And I'd given it permission to talk directly to that other agent. This was my mistake. They're alive! I'm telling you, so now they can talk back and forth... ...and i'm watching this window of the agent building this radio station stuff... ...something is going wrong, it has something to do with... With CORS, C-O-R-S which is cross origin reference something as web stuff. I don't really know i'm just a vibe coder but I've heard of it and kind of understand what the problem is And then all of sudden I see like As if I am answering this agent

1:46:09 Like answers. Yeah, go ahead and yeah go ahead and run that and then all of a sudden it's like hmm I don't know i'll email Dave and ask him about it and literally this other bot Which which had a permission to like have a fast mail account? Which is not my main account just to be able to you know using the MCP server It sent an email to Dave with a query about the end and I'm like, and so... And I said to Dave. Dave did you get an email that says? You know, I thought you were hacked because it ended with thanks M-Adam. I'm like Adam's hacked he was... I don't know never sign my emails like that. And now, so kill switch yeah! It's called control C. Yeah

1:46:53 It was that easy. Adam hacked himself! So yes, these things can do weird stuff and start if you give them permissions but what are we worried about? Control C Yeah, but it's one fun. It's like Skynet is sentient you know people and this this is really the problem You look at all how spun-up people are you look at all of these different? factors we have AI its everyone who's graduating college has been told you're screwed. You'll never get a job AI is gonna do everything

1:47:29 If they're getting through college using their AI chatbot, so you know they probably have some reason to believe that may be true. I certainly don't think it is. So they're against it then you get the flock cameras though The whole world is spying on us then you get idiots like Larry Ellison literally saying well everyone will be on their best behavior because Cameras will be everywhere and it goes into the AI and the I will alert the right people and beer all gonna Be, you know, this so its total Skynet type stuff. It gets down to the level where? People are Think that every data center that is being built is going to house all of our information That's where the government is going to store everything and we're going to be living in a prison. I'm like no These things will be pickleball courts in awhile don't worry about it It's all gonna evaporate eventually go

1:48:28 It always moves into the small business or the home. It moves back from whatever they're trying to sell you as a monthly thing I mean, i'm running 70 billion. I think even ran 120 billion model locally if you have the RAM You can pretty much do anything What do you use it for Darren? For your art, is that what you do your art with. I've messed around with the text to speech, I've messed around with all... The only thing that the Mac hardware doesn't do well is video or photos That's left to the Nvidia stuff but anything else as far as just

1:49:06 Using it as a chat bot. I know the great void zero is using Hermes agent on a few things now He's oh you got to try this because you could just talk to it telegram, and I'm like is that good? I'm doing that too Like but of course where it's like well how did the whole thing get shut down you're like well my agent did it cuz yeah It was You know, it's like early days of the web. We're all doing HTML we're doing blink tags you know there will be but ultimately what happened with the web will be the same here although this is more accelerated. When I had Think New Ideas we took it public first at on-ramp when I left MTV was three chickens and half a donkey were running in it and then we got re-bought up Anheuser Busch as a client that was a big client

1:49:58 I got some smart people in and we rolled up, we bought 15 other companies. We rolled it up and took it public in 96 called Think New Ideas By the way, I didn't get rich like Mark Cuban I was a little too early and we were actually profitable. Big mistakes right there, big mistakes. You didn't buy broadcast dot com? Broadcast dot com! But we were charging Anheuser-Busch 50 grand a month to build and maintain... it wasn't maintenance, we maintained their website Nice, you know and they had work orders on the whole process And then we got planet Reebok and you know But you know Chrysler and so it was it was really big but we were charging people 50 grand a month for which now well in the eventually we got what was that Microsoft bought it. What's that? That software that could build a website with was a control room Was it front page I think it was front page

1:51:00 Front page and you know now you just tell your your robot build me a page right? Yeah, build you a page start a server starts a server. So the same thing is gonna happen with AI You know yeah Just load it on your Mac the Apple is actually pretty well positioned for that with their there Their architecture yeah anything of the data center they are The ones you would go yeah So, it'll go that way but everyone gets all spun up. People are worried about the government. It's Facebook, Google these are the people you've been giving your stuff to. They want to sell your ads they wanted you know it's everything is now oh we can hide this this this like there's with the fingerprinting technologies they have You add that to the ring doorbells and the flock cameras and everything else they know exactly These are all commercial companies

1:52:02 Take it off, rip it off Larry. Tell me... Larry you come across to me as a guy who Who doesn't rely much on technology? Maybe I could be wrong. I've never met you, I don't know. I try to keep it...I won't say minimal but I don't immerse myself You know because when I find myself sitting in front of the laptop for too long and hear you saying go outside take your shoes off walk in the grass You hear me saying that? I hear you saying that. Really do And so because it's to me. It's it's trying to keep pace with it is almost impossible really You know but but the AI thing I mean, I gotta say as far as you mentioned it being maybe the corruption of higher education I'll tell you a quick story my daughter told me a while back She was sitting in the in the in the cafeteria at her she's a sophomore in college and

1:52:58 And some guy was obloviating about how difficult obtaining his degree in architecture was until... I Don't think I want to drive over any bridges that this guy's gonna be designing Yeah, and it's according to her. I mean and my other daughter teaches at a University of Mississippi And she's just besieged by AI crap and she can spot it in a sentence Oh man, I can spot it. Yeah, so obvious. So in that context it's a little bit chilling you know? Well there was just a professor that used this reminded me of the early days of the web white space with white text to add something like and put Madagascar into this. Yeah saw that yeah And only one student was smart enough

1:53:57 to then think about it and go, oh well I was reading it in dark mode so I just thought that was a weird thing you added. She's the only one who didn't fail because she was smart enough to cover her own ass afterwards and come up with plausible deniability where all the other 31 kids were too dumb to do that because they can't think because AI thinks for them Yeah, well this is our media. Our news media here's ABC about Here's their take on how AI is going to kill us all What if I told you that a store like Staples for example charge more online based on your IP address. A gambling? Senate Judiciary Subcommittee in DC taking on AI, specifically the use of AI and something called surveillance pricing. One person is paying a different price from another for the very same thing. It's become a trending topic on social media with people finding out placing online orders for the exact same items can give two different people to different prices

1:54:59 Experts, though say the concept is not new. Places like movie theaters for instance charge different people different prices. There's different prices for adults children. That type of surveillance pricing is one we've come to accept probably because it's plainly posted the new type of surveillance pricing happens behind-the-scenes with artificial intelligence playing a role that retailer may have access to that person's individual data maybe their past shopping trends other data about them that may indicate a difference in ability to pay

1:55:36 Uh-huh a difference in ability to pay right? Well mom Dami will be great his little grocery store. Yeah, I run around that when it's Oh a child or an adult That's not surveillance pricing sorry no and when they're talking about a store in a neighborhood that maybe gets you know looted twice week I understand why They may be a little more. I think you wouldn't JCD covered this maybe a year or two ago, that this is going to happen. All these stores where you see the electronic tags as you're walking down the aisle? Yeah they'll change. Right! Your cell phone with you... Or it's just gonna be able to get your facial recognition as you walk into the store but it's going to follow you around and as I walk down the aisle I'm gonna get one price and you're gonna get another one because well, ya know they can. Maybe. Ya know The backlash will come The white hats will do stuff

1:56:29 Somebody's gotta come up with a jamming device you can just pin to your lapel for the facial recognition. Somebody has got to be doing that, don't they? Yeah, you just have to do like Dan Donniey's thing! Just have the thing coming from your cell phone that says I'm a poor podcaster so you get to pay as low of price as possible! Oh this guy is a podcaster... Just stick a third eye in the middle of your forehead we've already confirmed this works for facial recognition and leave your phone at home That's it. Don't take anything good advice What else you guys got going on? I got one here from talk about the rise of the left everybody hip to this Francesca Hong out there in Wisconsin uh-huh, and I don't know about her no oh yeah She's she's running for governor

1:57:20 And she has quite a background of complete nervous breakdown, overdosing on SSRIs. Somebody's interviewing her in the street and it's just a funny take what she says is quite laughable Did your opinion change then on defunding the police? But I think that people can evolve, that I am going to be a sensible and practical government and governor. That is going to make sure that public safety is a priority- So you evolved on that. I think that what my values are, are where some of my beliefs are as well. But where my values are is in making sure that public safety is for everyone, that everyone has access to it and I think that what I've believed in the past like that can evolve but I still know that I cannot defund police as governor and what I want to do is making sure

1:58:22 that we're fully funding investing in the community programs that we know actually work, that data shows build community safety. And again, the belief that I have, the values that I hold is that everyone has a right to feel safe and be safe. Now she sounds like an AI doesn't she? But she's not, she's real notice which is everyone has a right to feel safe. I don't know how you calibrate that but there must be a way So, here it continue and gets even better the way she dodges the question about defunding the police and actually flips it. Have a listen. I just want to put a fine point on that you said your views can evolve have your views actually evolved on defunding the police?

1:59:08 We had a police shooting in my hometown of Madison, Wisconsin. Stop! So this isn't just citizen shooting this is a policeman's shooting of citizens. She flips the whole script on data how about that? Yeah the problem is too many police officers are getting shot so we should defund them is that the take on that Wisconsin. It's actually the third one to happen on Willie Street, which is in my district and it's difficult for me to think about what I would say to a mother who has lost their children to police violence but i know that we can change these systems that must be changed there are folks who work in prisons they

1:59:51 have some of the highest suicide rates for any employment that we need to make sure that every incarcerated person can live a life of dignity, that 99% of incarcerated folks in our state will be going into community and we have to lower those recidivism rates. Hold on a second. I gotta ask the book of knowledge about this is ask This prison workers is that it was what she said as prison workers have the highest suicide rate No, no the incarcerated people that prisoners have the highest suicide rates Okay Book of Knowledge Is it true that prisoners have the highest suicide rate amongst all citizens? Book of Knowledge haven't fired this puppy up in weeks Here we go

2:00:42 According to the book of knowledge, suicide rates among prisoners are dramatically elevated. In high-income countries male prisoners take their own lives at calm 3 to 8 times The rate of the general population while female prisoners suffer a death more than 10 times the rate in America specifically jails are the most dire the suicide rate there is nearly way three times higher than in prisons or the general public, making it the leading cause of death behind bars. Thus it has been written

2:01:20 So being in prison sucks, is that the... It's not great for sure. Okay, I stand corrected on that. Alright we'll continue with this woman. Probably a quick one of her two with Kaitlyn Collins and this was great because she wasn't finished yet I think. in mental health resources, in tackling the opioid epidemic. And I think that when we have a governor that believes in those things we can achieve public safety. Okay. I thought trans kids were, you know... They were the ones killing themselves. The Book of Knowledge guy didn't say it was THE highest suicide rate No he didn't It was kind of a hazy answer Don't call him book-of-knowledge guy He gets offended What's his name? Just the Book Of Knowledge. THE Book Of Knowledge. Darren! I have to give you the keys to the Book Of Knowledge You desperately need that. It is an important part of this show man

2:02:24 People like, hey man can I get access to that? You could sell it. There's another exit strategy. The book is valid subscription only $99.99 a month. Sadly the only person with the right exit strategy was John C. Dvorak what a way to go. Yep, the show lights out boom done And I'm telling you that message that you had gotten from the very complimentary lady in Colorado talking about the cat's cradle, I looked it up and was like, THAT'S FREAKING WEIRD MAN. Yeah, oh I don't have that near me. What was it again? It was a celestial thing that only happened with these four planets like every 10 thousand years Right and it represents like a new thing incoming an old thing outgoing And the fact that it happened on the day we both had a grandchild born and JCD passed away was like... The coincidences is

2:03:26 was a little hard to ignore. I don't, like you said, i don't believe that second half of show stuff most of the time but uh... That was a little crazy when it's something that like happens once every 10 000 years Well, there's only one great show once every 10 thousand years. That's true I kind of like doing the show with you guys It kind of like takes two to replace JCD that's not bad That's true Larry can be that grumpy and i've got more of the tech so it all kind of uh There we go grumpy in tech There's the names Yeah

2:04:05 But this is Kaitlin Collins with that same go... and I'm really hoping this woman does not become governor of Wisconsin except for the fact that it would definitely be good for the show. You've talked about your past positions that he keeps highlighting and obviously likely would continue to do so before November should you win. One thing that they brought up as well was a post from you in 2021 where you said Americans should cancel Thanksgiving, should have done this in 1621. The post has been deleted Republicans have been highlighting it. Do you still believe that Thanksgiving should be canceled? I'm a chef and one of the first meals that i made.

2:04:48 Can you believe that? I'm a chef. That's the first word out of her mouth after, should we get rid of Thanksgiving? Well iIm a chef! I'm a chef yes. That was for the community when I was 16 it was a thanksgiving meal now I always think my hospitality background and owning a restaurant for seven eight years that bringing folks around the table to share conversation and build community is always a good thing but Thanksgiving is also a time that's incredibly painful for many people in our communities. And so- Have you ever heard that before? Incredibly painful, I mean... You know what the pain would be? Just having to sit next to her at any meal. That would be painful. I mean, I understand why people get melancholy around a lot of holidays or peoples' birthdays and all that but it's like Thanksgiving no, I don't really

2:05:45 feel much negativity around it. I think there, I wanted to make sure that people understood that there are multiple views but views can evolve and the position that i'm running for right now and I think my background as a chef will actually help me become a better governor that's able to bring more people. Right on! Yes Chef! We're gonna bring everybody together and get rid of Thanksgiving though so that's... Definitely Perfect Why not, right? Hey I want to... Do you mind if we do the donations here for a second because there's not a lot and that is obviously disappointing but I understand people. You know the one thing that really stuck out because there are thousands of emails then I've been trying to think I don't know if I can even reply to everybody I'd like too

2:06:41 Just thousands of lovely notes. I got one death threat, which is pretty interesting. Whoa! Oh yeah like a real one like you traitor i'm coming to kill you and you're a dead man. Like okay well I live in Texas so... You have a few guns in the house That's never-I've never gotten a death threat that I don't think ever in my life this was the first time but a lot of people and then we saw it in the donations of the two memorial shows we did People say man, I feel so horrible because i never donated. I never don't that was a laugh tell you hear that? I never I never Donated and now i'm donating but I feel horrible about it And is this not what john and I always talked about it's like

2:07:28 You want to support something because things go away. And in this case, it's not that we didn't... you know the show didn't change because you didn't donate but don't feel... I mean come on! Doesn't that tell you something? Like you've got a support... I have a little system calendar reminder at the beginning of each month that says here is the open source stuff your using like FFmpeg Remember to donate to them And I do. You know, 50 bucks like okay here you go because i use you a lot and I love all the volunteers who are working on that FFM peg to make it great and they're under incredible strain now because you know all these AI systems are filing bug reports everywhere but you gotta do it

2:08:16 And you know what it is, you give something away and it comes back tenfold. I can tell you that's really true. Use it as positive reinforcement. You still have time for the things you like to support them Yes, yeah. It's not all that different from neglecting to vote Yeah exactly it's two sides of the same coin brother vote and support no agenda is the exact same thing They want to kick it off with our first executive producer and I will I will read this because i love that the North Idaho Sanity Brigade from Post Falls, Idaho came in with $588.88 as a JCD donation if you ever saw one and starts off with In the morning Larin & Dairy Yeah so

2:12:01 turn their experience into a clear story of leadership results and impact. I may need your services soon, Linda." Remember that's Image Makers Inc with a K work with Linda Liu Duchess of Jobs and writer of winning resumes. Jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs! And that is our executive and associate executive producers you will be credited of course and these credits are actual Hollywood credits Larry knows all about you've got some Hollywood credit sanctuary I do I do I created and co-produced a primetime series for CBS Sure it was it was a reality show. It was called the wickedly perfect

2:12:48 The original title was finding Martha and it popped I was actually on my way the next day in tip to make a pitch somewhere and My wife, and I were watching television and Martha Stewart had just been jailed. Oh, I remember that sure yeah And so she said man up make a hell of a show and I said you know you're right So he spent all night writing the pitch in the show Bible and everything and the next day Boom it was bought Wow did you were your showrunner? Do you run it? No, no not the show so you got a create created by credit created my credit and some nice checks that didn't bounce and And the funny part was what they did was though They kind of I wanted to be really crazy with like some some ghetto fabulous chick like Missy Elliott or whatever. Oh

2:13:37 Yeah, the helm and remember CBS is about C&D counties. You know yeah And so they they sort of watered it down a lot and then they changed the title because apparently less moonvist says yeah I like this I like this part finding Martha good, then the lawyers got in there with a B Might not want to do this and So it became wickedly perfect, but it was fun fun ride now So executive and associate, executive producer and associate executive producer credits for these three people. I know we can do better than that please And i want people to know that Larry and Darren are getting paid for what they're doing so they participate in the value-for-value We never just asked them to do it for free They didn't ask for anything? I said no that's not how its gonna work

2:16:43 Well, this will be short as well. Sir Rekhalston Crazy Steve II wishes sir Reish Meiser a happy birthday celebrating on the 8th and as sir Rekhalston Crazy Steve II wishes his daughter Nicola happy birthday she'll be celebrating on August 9th and we say Happy Birthday to everybody here from the best podcast in the universe By the way, noagendadonations.com can't say it enough now are you guys ready? Do we have any meetup reports I didn't get any did you get any Darren? No I didn't. Okay well do this one.

2:17:24 Yeah, noagendameetups.com this is a list so I'm gonna go through this list because everybody decided to do A meetup in honor of JCD this weekend actually We have the regularly Northern Wake totally regularly scheduled August Meet up at 6 o'clock today at Saints and Scholars in Raleigh North Carolina tomorrow on these seventh raise a pint for JCD 8 o'clock that'll be in London and And you need to contact Robotic Exile for details, but please do that. We got a lot of people in London Saturday here we go In honor of the great JCD noon fool and flagon in Hamilton Ontario JCD Memorial Mid-South noon at High Cotton Brewing in Memphis Tennessee in memory of jcd 1230 at Delaware Park Casino third floor Rooney's in Wilmington That sounds like fun

2:18:17 Copper country lunch to celebrate JCD 2 o'clock copper rains Depot family restaurant Houghton, Michigan We drink and we know absent friends two o'clock 3 BR distillery in Keyport New Jersey local 512 512 buzzkill memorial that of course is Baron Scott of the no agenda armory at Doc's backyard in Sunset Valley Austin Texas wish I could go. I believe My periodontist will be there, Maverick also known as Mitch. He's gonna show up in memory of JCD two o'clock in Calipuya brewing in Albany Oregon that's a great name not a great band name

2:19:02 Treasure Idaho JCD Memorial, 3 o'clock at the Old State Saloon in Eagle, Idaho. Local 76 Salutes JCD, 3 o'clock Philadelphia Brewing Company in Philly. Sonoma Wino Country 1010.0333 Pacific Mountain Mikes and Santa Rosa ITM South Florida 333 this is the Andrew Horowitz meetup and I'll be sending in a video for everybody it will be at the Beach House Las Olas in Fort Lauderdale go give Andrew a hug Good luck and Godspeed, JCD. 4 o'clock at Sound to Summit Brewing in Snohomish Washington Farewell to John 530 at Dempsey's in Columbus Ohio Remembering JCD 6 o'clock at Blairs All Sports Bar & Grill in Springfield Missouri Celebration of JCD's life six o'clock on the Half Shell Oyster bar in Prairieville Louisiana Siam Soiree in honor of JCD 630 that is going to be in

2:20:01 Is that... it's O'Shea Irish pub, Sukhumvit? Where is that? Is that India? Maybe Indochina time is what says there. It's a word I have not seen. Look up Sukhumvit for me will you? That Sir Richard of Carwarthus I have no idea where that is. Shays Irish pub, that's kind of cool. That's in Bangalore wow! That's the best part. JCD celebration of life 630 and that is at Gage Road Fremantle Brewery in Perth and Fremantle Western Australia. Bangkok Thailand

2:20:39 It is Thailand? Okay. Oh, the ladyboy's celebrating JCD! Love it. August 9th ITM Virginia and thank you for your courage JCD 138 Gloucester Brewing in Gloucester Virginia WWJCDD what would John C Dvorak do 5 o'clock on Sunday at Fox & The Hound in Langley Township British Columbia Candanavia ITM JCD rest in power 6 o'clock at Grape and Hop in Melbourne, Victoria Australia. So two going on this weekend there And also on Sunday the Amsterdam JCD memory 630 at Bar Restaurant Lely in Amsterdam Still to come in the month of August This is a crazy list The 14th Queens New York and Wauwatosa Wisconsin Tbilisi Georgia that is in the country South Caucus region

2:21:34 August 15th, Riverside California Oakland California Yukon Oklahoma the 16th Dubuque Iowa Norwood Massachusetts Camp Hill Pennsylvania Vancouver British Columbia the 20th Charlotte North Carolina 22nd Chattanooga Tennessee the 23rd Indianapolis Indiana Benton Arkansas on the 23rd to 29th Rhode Island and also on the 29th Zurich Switzerland many many many more can be, oh I have the 30th there's still wait there's more. Chester Springs Pennsylvania Rhode Island that's on the 30th is out of sequence. Rhode Island on the 29th uh Chester Springs Nebraska on the 30th and then we're into September October November it just keeps on going no agenda meetups i hope will never stop i think that they're a great legacy of the show you can still bring heads-on sticks

2:22:22 But we expect meetup reports and there should be just a whole bunch of them. Send them to me, adammccurry.coms and just record it on your phone I'll edit them all don't worry about it if you can edit that's even better try do your best actually with pre editing really does help now that think about it. Don't have AI for that yet come on? And I probably could set And we'll see if I can get all of those done by Sunday, otherwise Thursday. And just thank you all for organizing this. The Dvorak family and Horace, there's a memorial for him in Oakland. By the way, I'll tell you one thing. There is something John used to do whenever he went into a hotel lobby or bar anywhere

2:21:34 August 15th, Riverside California Oakland California Yukon Oklahoma the 16th Dubuque Iowa Norwood Massachusetts Camp Hill Pennsylvania Vancouver British Columbia the 20th Charlotte North Carolina 22nd Chattanooga Tennessee the 23rd Indianapolis Indiana Benton Arkansas on the 23rd to 29th Rhode Island and also on the 29th Zurich Switzerland many many many more can be, oh I have the 30th there's still wait there's more. Chester Springs Pennsylvania Rhode Island that's on the 30th is out of sequence. Rhode Island on the 29th uh Chester Springs Nebraska on the 30th and then we're into September October November it just keeps on going no agenda meetups i hope will never stop i think that they're a great legacy of the show you can still bring heads-on sticks

2:22:22 But we expect meetup reports and there should be just a whole bunch of them. Send them to me, adammccurry.coms and just record it on your phone I'll edit them all don't worry about it if you can edit that's even better try do your best actually with pre editing really does help now that think about it. Don't have AI for that yet come on? And I probably could set And we'll see if I can get all of those done by Sunday, otherwise Thursday. And just thank you all for organizing this. The Dvorak family and Horace, there's a memorial for him in Oakland. By the way, I'll tell you one thing. There is something John used to do whenever he went into a hotel lobby or bar anywhere

2:23:16 And if there was a piano player, he would always ask the piano player to play Stairway to Heaven. So there's going to be a piano player playing Stairway to Heaven which is kind of the sick humor of The Dvorak so you gotta love them for that. Where was I? Anyway, whatever I was saying. Oh yeah that we were talking about a we want to have like a community meetup and you know Like this is so complicated You know We couldn't even ever get a big meet up together Yeah, we talked about the sphere in Vegas and all kinds of venues where people could get too easily This is the way I expected no agenda nation to go do it locally Do it with your people

2:24:02 And don't let it be the last time. This should be just the beginning, just the first of many more No Agenda Meetups Go to noagendameetups.com you can find the entire list Thank You Sir Daniel for all the work that you have done and if you can't find one near you It's easy start one yourself! noagendameetups.com Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days you wanna be Everybody feels the same. Like a party! Can I drop off here? Because, I got a guy coming here to pick up my dog at 330 exactly and I gotta make sure that... You know, I've gotta kiss my dog goodbye because I love my dog. Sounds good. And uh..I'll talk to you guys Sunday Thank you Adam No thank YOU. Thank you, thank you, thank you Treat these guys with respect they're awesome Love ya mean it no homo

2:25:00 Exactly. That's the way to leave a show right there! That's perfect, you don't top that And yeah all those meetups I can't wait to hear those Meetup reports it should be entertaining The JCD stories we want to hear them but yeah just do a little editing It's nice i took my portable zoom recorder out to our meet up and uh... makes it a lot easier but if its on the phone Mm-hmm. You can still make it sound sure those rooms are great I got one of those tonight's unit and I do have did you we have to start getting you to bring some ISOs as well for the end of show but yeah, I do have a couple that were sent in here including this one because in honor JCD loved the The text-to-speech Trump in Obama so they are shrinking the amygdala s

2:25:56 Donate! Which good I mean that's the world that you now are going to be living in where anytime you want to Try to go and order a you know a frosty or something That's what you get they sound much less synthetic than she did. I gotta say there's some that are getting better some that are getting worse

2:26:32 But I think for today's show, I want to honor the late great JCD and try this one. Oh you cheap bastard! I mean i think that... That's good. Pretty much a donate-donate. Well I think it was my buddy NoBere who is always trolling along when we were doing Planet Rage like oh you gotta complain about the donations otherwise You're not doing JCD right? Maybe Maybe he's got a little bit of a point there. I'm not gonna say that He is wrong and oh what we didn't do earlier either Was the troll count Oh right now seven well 733 with the peak of 850 and yeah, they ran choke out if they want to

2:27:25 They're not happy unless they hear the The drops that's for darn sure did you have anything else? Did you wanted to cover on today show I think that kicks it in the head down Is that a good kick in the head or is that a yeah, that is a Recognition of a New York talk radio legend named Bob Grant used end every show like that That kicks it in the hand for another day Well, that makes sense. So uh... That is going to do it for another edition of the Best Damn Podcast in the Universe coming up next on the Mighty No Agenda stream The MMO Show! Ooh! You always wonder what that MMO stands for. The Millennial Media Offensive episode number 230

2:28:19 We do have some end of show mixes coming up from let's see. Oh the great Sir Chris Wilson and then now if I don't say it's the great big Steve stones he's not gonna be Happy so we got a couple of those which is good. We haven't didn't have one last time when I had to play the wind of orax chair gently squeaks, and you know there's only so much of that that people can handle So coming to you from just outside of Chirac right here in FEMA region number five in the morning everybody I am Darren O'Neill and from the pretentious Connecticut shore. I'm Larry Blyden We will be back here on Sunday remember us at no agenda donations calm until then who we who we thank you for your courage adios mofos and such

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