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00:00 Hey, but you go. Adam Curry and John C. DeVore Action! It's Sunday March 29th 2026 this is your award winning Cuban Asian Media assassination episode 1855 This is no agenda You guys always have Kinks Day in San Francisco. No kinks, no kinks? This was this was

00:43 It's so interesting. I was just trying to read through, like people who are writing about it of course we have clips but yeah the big thing that that the M5M was trying to emphasize Was this line these events supported by 500 groups with combined revenues of three billion dollars This is you know what is that? What is the point of that They're trying to message something like this is scary, powerful. Did two billion go to Bruce Springsteen? I have no clue It's good to have you here John

01:31 Oh, thank you. How are you feeling? Terrible! I feel terrible. It's a miracle that I could do this show Well...I'm actually quite surprised Are you sleeping at all or is that not...? Well the sleeping is the problem because You kind of just doze off when you feel like it But I will say this Like during donation segment? Yeah, if could happen Could happen Yeah, you will say this David Letterman had a quintuple Yes And he was on the stage five weeks later. Yeah, well he is... That ain't happening here! He's a superstar! It's been past five weeks already No no there was five weeks after the operation you've only had- The operation was 10 days ago? No it was on the 6th Oh wow well hurry up will ya get your spark man Here's little overview of uh

02:22 This is from Euronews, here's how the Europeans viewed our No Kings Day. Millions of people took to the streets across the United States to participate in more than 3100 protests taking place against US President Donald Trump. The rallies denounced what they described as an authoritarian style of governance by the incumbent administration their immigration stance climate change denial isolationist foreign policy and now the war on Iran In New York, thousands gathered to protest against sweeping immigration raids carried out by ICE and called for their abolition. The rallies even featured a surprise cameo from New York native and Hollywood giant Robert De Niro. Protests also took place in the capital Washington D.C., where hundreds gathered near the White House demanding Trump's ouster. It is the third time in less than a year these protests—part of a U.S. grassroots movement called No Kings—take place

01:31 Oh, thank you. How are you feeling? Terrible! I feel terrible. It's a miracle that I could do this show Well...I'm actually quite surprised Are you sleeping at all or is that not...? Well the sleeping is the problem because You kind of just doze off when you feel like it But I will say this Like during donation segment? Yeah, if could happen Could happen Yeah, you will say this David Letterman had a quintuple Yes And he was on the stage five weeks later. Yeah, well he is... That ain't happening here! He's a superstar! It's been past five weeks already No no there was five weeks after the operation you've only had- The operation was 10 days ago? No it was on the 6th Oh wow well hurry up will ya get your spark man Here's little overview of uh

02:22 This is from Euronews, here's how the Europeans viewed our No Kings Day. Millions of people took to the streets across the United States to participate in more than 3100 protests taking place against US President Donald Trump. The rallies denounced what they described as an authoritarian style of governance by the incumbent administration their immigration stance climate change denial isolationist foreign policy and now the war on Iran In New York, thousands gathered to protest against sweeping immigration raids carried out by ICE and called for their abolition. The rallies even featured a surprise cameo from New York native and Hollywood giant Robert De Niro. Protests also took place in the capital Washington D.C., where hundreds gathered near the White House demanding Trump's ouster. It is the third time in less than a year these protests—part of a U.S. grassroots movement called No Kings—take place

03:19 The demonstration spread across the pond, where thousands of Americans abroad and locals took part in rallies across Europe. They were protesting in London—no kings! Oops... In Paris, protesters called for an end to Trump's quote, reckless irresponsible and endless wars And then the Italian capital, Thousands marched calling for respective international law and demanding a world free from wars Yeah I think that the branding is off No kings, just hate Trump. That's all that it is. Hate Trump! Did you see the segment of The New York Times?

03:55 protests that was literally communists with the red flag and this... No. Yeah, it must have been a couple thousand people. Oh! They had the flags they had you know and there's a bunch of jingles that they would say about communism taking over and you know all kind of a mixed bag of Zeds Maybe some millennials. Well, I think the Zeds that are in New York and have one... They all were promised a bunch of stuff and they probably aren't paying attention that it's kind of not happening. It's like we got to raise your taxes on property so you're probably not going to freeze the rents So they just haven't felt the pain yet

04:47 But, you know... the kids are happy. They like their red flags Let them wave them for a little bit I'm not so bothered by it New York has always been New York They'll figure it out Were you shocked? No! Not at all It's just that... I was surprised they came out So blatantly Oh no! This is the... but this has always been the case We used to arrest people over in Hollywood and we gave up that gambit Like, uh... it wasn't so cool to be calling people communists and arresting them. And so now they're rampant! It doesn't work I did- I watched a fair bit of it The Minneapolis stuff

05:31 Which was, oh man. They had one crappy band after another It's like everybody who has a guitar and has written the song was allowed to go up on stage Like ah... it was insufferable And then of course the great New Jersey icon Bruce Springsteen takes the stage To confirm all the lies Hello Minnesota! Wooo! Hey! Hey! Hey! Turning into a beautiful bird. Well this past winter, federal troops brought death and terror to the streets of Minneapolis. I just... This past winter federal troops brought death to the streets of Minnesota? Well they picked the wrong city! Yeah should have gone to Tom's River

06:30 The power and the solidarity of the people of Minneapolis, Minnesota was an inspiration to the entire country. Your strength and your commitment told us that this is still America. Just not this little piece here, Bruce! And this reactionary nightmare... Oh! ...and these invasions of American cities... Invasions of America? Bruce Springsteen who has several hundred million dollars What happened to the guy?! I'd like to know myself Do you think it's toxoplasmosis

07:10 They very well could be. Something is going on here. You gave us hope, you gave us courage and for those who gave their lives Renee Good, mother of three, brutally murdered. Murdered? Alex Pretty, VA nurse executed by ICE Executed! Shot in the back and left to die in the street without even the decency of our lawless government investigating their deaths What?! Their bravery, their sacrifice and their names will not be forgotten. It's like the Howard Stern sickness Yeah And it's bizarre They could be cats It's gotta be cats! I mean...it makes no sense He's off the rails

08:07 Well, he's not even on rails. It's just like Bruce come on man! I think he is done. He has been done for a while it is just so disappointing. I mean from Jersey this is not the guy we used to know New Jersey turned blue that kind of makes sense but the craziest was Jane Fonda and she... What is No King supposed to be about? I mean, was it even about ICE initially? I can't remember. The first No Kings was about nothing except Trump Right! Trump and then it became this was kind of the Minneapolis so it's about federal troops invading our cities Invading yeah Invading our cities And then Jane Fonda... Well, I'd really like to just like her because you know here is an elderly woman

09:01 She's 87, 88. All the work that she has done on herself looks just mind-bogglingly good but she makes it so hard for me to like her and now she is waffling over this I want to say that the First Amendment suffers greatly in times of war as the government works to crush internal dissent What? Our parents, our forefathers fought and died for these rights. For these freedoms we must not sit by quietly and watch them taken away if we wait to act If we hesitate out of fear or the feeling that it doesn't affect us

09:48 It may be too late. Luckily, although it was kind of hard to watch she goes on Mrs. Now with Jen Psaki and Jen Psaki is fawning over her and she explains because she has a group She has a First Amendment group Because for your first amendment rights are under attack and being removed here in America And I should know for the audience out when you were in Washington DC today speaking outside the Kennedy Center For an event is what I'm referring to in defense of free expression So tell us about the event and then message. You were really trying to get across two people watching yeah, because we don't understand

10:42 Well, the attacks on the arts, literature, on film, on museums... What? The National Endowment of the Arts. Oh my! What attack on museums?! What attack on films?! This is, this can only be... Tell that to Netflix. Exactly! It's gonna only be that Trump put his name on the Kennedy Center I can't imagine it's about anything else but she does slip in- I'm sure that's what it is She said gold everybody so much She slips into National Endowment for the Arts Okay All of these are under attack right now Attack They're being defunded they're being censored they're being Censored?

11:21 Nobody's censoring anything. Well, she kind of twists herself in a knot in this short appearance removed remove three especially Especially racial history the history of slavery is all being erased What it's being erased have I missed something? Yeah Okay And we wanted it when we were we've been we've been Deluged with the history of race. Deluged! I think we got it It's all being erased and we wanted it because it's kind of like here and there Here and there Silo'd We worried that people in the press don't see clearly enough The breadth and depth Of these attacks

12:12 And we have to understand what's happening. This is not normal, this does not happen in a democracy and we have to call it what it is and we have to end it with the committee for the First Amendment It's the first amendment for us She's the committee for the First Amendment Hold on Jen Psaki I didn't see this but Jen Psaki I'm guessing goes right to the juggler and askers for specifics Yeah, no. Yeah no. What do you mean? No! No it's just listen she's on the committee for the First Amendment Oh And we have to end it with a committee for the First Amendment It's the first amendment for a reason is some most important. It's the cornerstone of all democracies its freedom of speech The first amendment it's the cornerstone

13:08 of all democracy. First Amendment for a reason, it's the most important, it's the cornerstone of all democracies. It's freedom of speech, freedom of press, freedom of religion, freedom of assembly and freedom to protest including Including the right to- Is that in there? Let me go take a look and see if it says freedom to protest. I'm not sure it's actually in there that way. Freedom of assembly and freedom to protest! For someone who is on the committee, she could at least just cite it verbatim. Including the right to criticize our president if we choose. That's under attack? Yes yes, that's under attack.

13:51 So, yeah. Yeah and gee nobody's ever criticized Trump It's the oddest thing I don't... maybe i'm wrong about her but I never thought that she felt the need to be relevant you know a lot of Hollywood people do that I never really pegged her that way But I guess I can't come up with any other reason for her to be like this She, you know... Once you invest some money and make some independent films and do some theater productions I don't think anyone's gonna stop ya. But it somehow is being- Maybe there is a defunding of certain things? Maybe that what she's upset about? That's not the First Amendment! The First Amendment doesn't say, oh you shall get free money for your theater productions So I was little confused

14:48 What do you have on No Kings? Do you have anything? Nothing. I got no clips, so i wasn't going to really talk about it much Well what's this No Kings rap NPR then? Well this is the NPR rap of No Kings Day Haha, see you're being censored. Your clips are being obfuscated. No King's protests against President Trump and his policies including the war in Iran immigration voting rights and the rising cost of living are taking place around the country today Organizers say more than 3,000 rallies are being held and millions of people are expected to attend Sarah Ferguson from Minnesota Public Radio has more from a massive rally in St Paul

15:26 There's been a lot of cheering as people, especially non-Minnesotans have lifted up the people of Minnesota for the way that they reacted to Operation Metro Surge and really encouraged others around the country who are watching to take steps to follow up on things that Minnesotans have done. Respecting one another trying to support their neighbors and just a lot of cheers here as some of the speakers say that the country does not want a king and they want to make sure that the people are empowered. Is this all about the ID, about the SAVE Act? Do you think that's part of it I didn't see much talk about it but I mean it just makes no sense it seems like protests... No, you know its just people with nothing better to do. I have no idea It's silly

16:20 I'm gonna say it. It's silly! Yes, well... And you pointed out right at the beginning which is the silliest part You know all these international versions of this including one in England No Kings Day Where they have a king? They have a king Yeah we've been trying to figure out the backlash against Cesar Chavez Yeah, we're back on that Yeah well it's related I think Do you think? Yeah, I think it is In February, RFK Jr. was on Rogan and he explained what happened. You know, throughout American history there's always talk of the Republican Party and the Democrat Party they flipped! They flipped over! Yeah bullshit... Well but this is a kind of flip that sounds correct Why don't you ask me about immigration because I know that something has disturbed you? What are your thoughts on immigration

17:21 on what's going on? You know, here in the background my kind of assumptions. During the last 10 years of his life I worked very closely with Cesar Chavez and he had two issues He had pesticides which were a huge issue with him and that is what I worked with him on On the dangers that you know His workers were experiencing from pesticides And the other issue was immigration He wanted to shut down the border Because he saw the way that it was impairing this huge influx of illegal immigration across the border. It was impairing his ability to bargain, to leverage good wages and conditions for his workers. When I grew up, the Democratic Party was against immigration and it was the Republican Party who wanted it because big corporations wanted cheap labor

18:18 The Chamber of Commerce was firmly embedded in the Republican Party and they were all about open borders. Today, the Chamber of Commerce is with Democratic Party and so it's one of these switches that is kind of inexplicable to me but I think again it happened because President Trump said I'm gonna fix it with a wall and that became you know it suddenly became open borders suddenly became calling card for the Democratic Party So there was this flip which really only had to do with... Yeah, a lot of things. I mean yeah the two sides and this is recent this one because you can get clips from Schumer or I have I don't have any on today's show but you know talking moaning and groaning about immigration You can get clips from Hillary moaning and groaning about immigration you can get all these clips even up to Obama And now they say just the opposite

19:15 Yeah. But you could call it a flip, but what specifically do you think is the reason for this? Three documentaries American Pachuco The Legend of Luis Valdez American agitators, which I think may be out already and a song for Caesar. American pachuco? Yeah! No idea what that means... I do What does it mean? Well it's kind of like a punk, a bad guy you'd call in the when I was a kid I was raised largely you know Hispanic areas

20:00 And these guys would call me, hey Pachuco! Hey Pachuco! And Vato. Vato was the other one that used to... Would they call you Pachuco? No I was a white guy nobody even talked to me much You were just hanging around? Me and Julio down by the schoolyard? Nah I had a lot of friends that when i was in high school... Hey Pachuco! Before they opened up our white high school I went to pretty much Latino high school. Wait a minute, you were in minority? Did you get beat up did they take your lunch money? Not at all it was just the opposite oh you were gringo where they call hey gringo no no that guy's really white that's what they'd say and everybody hung out with their own little crowd but my I just as an aside

20:54 To this day, and I've talked about this with everybody I know. I'm still impressed with the natural marketing capabilities of some of these kids which at the time we called them Chicanos. And these kids that were because when they were running for I think it was sophomore class president you know is different. We already knew who's gonna win or what might not win but there's one kid came up with his giant posters he'd make these long banners And he won with the phrase, Hernandez is gooder. And it was so catchy! You look at him and you go, Hernandez is gooder? Wow I don't know what kind of genius came up with that one but it was a gem and he just kicked ass in the voting So I'm looking at this from Hawaii Public Radio they have a report here

21:52 This America Pachuco premiered at Sundance in January, is slated for release... oh PBS release in fall. Interesting and here's the line recent screenings have become safe spaces for audiences to process the new allegations as the film contains significant footage of Chavez Oh, that's funny. There is an oops? Maybe the whole idea was to ruin that film Could be But RFK Jr is talking about on Rogan in February The timing is interesting And maybe there is something afoot and they're like oh crap They are going to use Hugo Chavez We got to do something quick we gotta cancel this guy

22:47 Maybe it's the exactly what you talk. Maybe it's the gooder guys, maybe they're going after the Chicanos Like we can't have that you Connors voting for Trump Oh this gotta be some angle there Yeah I'm thinking has something to do with it yeah could be well We keep looking. We keep looking. All right, where do you want to go? What's your got? Well I've got a couple of interesting little side... If you want to hear something off the wall that you haven't even touched upon Okay. We have...I didn't hear about it. I'd like to say Canada has got...you know BC is going broke Oh are they now? Well BCs credit rating has been downgraded again The official opposition says its signals to investors that the province is going broke Huh! Yeah

23:36 BC's going broke and in fact the whole country might be going broke. Play this clip, Canada bank fees. New survey now CTV puts out a new survey nearly half of Canadians living paycheck to paycheck you know yet another slow clap for all these policies here half of Canadians in this rich rich nation and then you're gonna have Francois-Philippe Champagne is bragging that they're cutting the NSF fees from 50 bucks to 10 bucks because one in three Canadians are now writing bad checks Without realizing what he's saying, he thinks you're that stoop. One in three Canadians writing bad checks? Half a Canadian living paycheck to paycheck in a nation as rich as this!

24:15 You squandered riches, you've impoverished a nation and you're bragging on there like they must have done that took them all day too because we saw the hard cuts in there too. They couldn't even stitch together like a moment it was just full of like hard cuts as Francois-Philippe Champagne was telling you that you're going to get a grocery credit and you're gonna get $40 off NSF fees in a nation where the Canadian banking oligopoly books record profits year after year and they won't let competition in. They should try a no kings day! You got problems up there that we're not carefully looking at? Well, our producers and we have a lot of them in Canada all pretty much all of them want to come live here I remember during COVID like hey man can I stay in your attic

25:03 Got any space? And then also, which I think is coming to a boil up in Canada but not so much here. I want to play these clips this is land act one China deals UN A new measure was announced this week to try and help stimulate the housing market, and it marks the third one that came out just this month. We ultimately may hear of even more of these to come as the pre-sale market continues to struggle immensely. Plus we saw another major project go insolvent. I also have updates on where markets are pricing in potential Bank of Canada rate hikes

25:46 Plus, there is an incredible theory that has emerged this week as to why the government is making these land agreements with indigenous groups. Okay! All right something's going on Yeah there's a bunch of weird stuff going on with these indigenous groups I like the way they call them Indians yeah play Land Act China deals oh that's no wait wait wait so I just played No, you please. Oh no I see it yeah the UN? Let me just correct. They look the same, the one that looks the same that doesn't have one yeah land okay here we go The strategy focuses on joint ventures and equity positions in these models the first nations retain its right First Nations That's what they are first nations you got a first nation in these models The First Nations retain it's rights and title while the Chinese partner provides the capital And expertise to develop their resource

26:45 under a profit sharing or lease agreement. So while China already remains a bit of a dominant force within the global mineral supply chain, recent and somewhat new Canadian federal policies on March 26th, a report came out that kind of supports this theory if the Bureau The provincial government's implementation of the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples Act, or DRIPA combined with a series of landmark court decisions confirming Aboriginal title over specific territories has rapidly altered the legal landscape governing resource extraction in Western Canada. More land is now subject to indigenous control more projects require indigenous consent these are in principle corrections to historical wrongs

27:30 but also mean that the pathway to Canada's most strategically valuable resources, lithium, cobalt rare earth elements timber and LNG now runs in many cases directly through First Nations governments. Okay so They are selling... By the way, with Chinese financing. Well yeah they what the yellow man once took now they're giving to the yellow man and it's the minerals and it's the oh man so are they are they lickering them up first before they put these deals in front of him? This is going on in Washington State also

28:14 They're giving property back to the local Indian tribes who already sold the land to this state or local governments. And then they're pulling the plug on taxes, you know, they pay taxes... regulations don't count. It's very fishy, the Chinese seem to be behind it and this UN resolution which requires people to... they're the ones behind the land acknowledgments and I have a whole bunch of them here in fact the land acknowledgements

28:57 seems to be a way of softening us up. Play this clip from this woman who's tried to pass a bill and she's a conservative in BC and this is the BC mess land acknowledgment story from the CBC. One BC leader, Dallas Brody says that land acknowledgements which are often what you hear when a public official starts an event they'll say we're standing on the traditional territories of the Songhees and Esquimalt First Nations She says that is teaching our children that they live on stolen land, that they should be ashamed of their history. And for that reason those land acknowledgments should be banned among public employees. Here's a bit of what Dallas Brody had to say. Land acknowledgements are the anthem of a suicidal nation. They tell our children we stand on stolen land.

29:50 So now this private members bill was voted down on first reading. That is quite rare because even MLAs when they disagree with a private members bill, they'll still vote it through first reading to have a debate on it not so with bills put forward so far by 1BC I will note that the The entire BC Conservative caucus voted against the bill except for two, Harman Bangu and Heather Moss. So this was an unwhipped vote but showing a little bit of fissures within the BC Conservatives on how to approach this bill and katie what do first nations leaders say about this proposed bill well i spoke with uh... robert phillips he sits on the first nation's political summit and answer for a political executive of the first nation summit and he says that you land acknowledgments are just

30:39 acknowledging our history and are an important part of reconciliation. We also spoke to B.C conservative house leader Alia Warbus who is from the Stolo First Nation, and you know she's quite disappointed with the spirit of this bill and here's a bit of what she had to say I've lived with racism all my life. It shouldn't be playing anymore is it? No its not playing so it sounds to me just listening to It sounds like they gave this land to the First Nations, you know tax-free land. It's all gooder and now they're like well we're going to acknowledge this but we're gonna have China buy it for the minerals and probably people are on the inside making a killing off of it? Yep

31:30 Do you have any clips that confirm this? Not that part, but I'm gonna get some because this is a big deal and it's going to kill BC and probably Washington State. Because they're all suckered into it And it all stems from this 2016 UN resolution And there was one previous in 2007 That encourages people to do these land acknowledgements Which is only applicable to the United States and Canada. Nobody else does it! No. The South Americans don't do it, and they stepped all over Amazonians... And you know this is ludicrous. And which brings me to three clips I have of classic land acknowledgments that I thought were funny enough to play Okay

32:18 So let's start with Paulsbo, Washington which is a little town that is a nor- little Norwegian copy of a little Norwegian town in Washington state that has a tourist attraction. Norwegian all the way and here's They have a city council meeting, they do this. estimation of my people. Every hillside, every valley, every plain and grove has been hollowed by some sad or happy event in days long vanished thank you. Thank You Councilwoman Crowley. Thank you! Thank you! You've acknowledged the land very good unbelievable and we don't know it most of us don't that the Los Angeles City Council pulls this stunt

33:17 The City of Los Angeles recognizes that we occupy land originally and still inhabited and cared for by the Kish, Tongva, Tatavian, and Chumash peoples. We honor and pay respect to their elders and descendants past present and emerging as they continue their stewardship of these lands and waters. We acknowledge that settler Colonization resulted in land seizure, disease, subjugation, slavery, relocation, broken promises, genocide, multi-generational trauma, disruption of cultural practices, trade and tribal relations. This acknowledgment demonstrates our responsibility and commitment to truth healing and reconciliation

34:03 elevating the stories, culture and community of the original inhabitants of the city of Los Angeles. We are grateful to have the opportunity to live and work on these ancestral lands." Wow! This is like Obama time. We've gone back to this acknowledgement Yeah, and here's the DNC. The latest guy that runs the DNC. When they open up a meeting at the DNC... These Democrats by the way this is what it sounds like Good morning, DNC members friends and relatives. Let's talk about the land for a second. The DNC acknowledges and honors the Dakota Oyate, the Dakota people who are the original stewards of the lands and waters of Minneapolis. Dakota cared for the lands lakes in the Wapatoanka, the Great River, the Mississippi River uh for thousands of years before colonization this land was not claimed or traded it's part of a history of broken treaties and promises

35:02 and in many ways we still live in a system built to suppress indigenous peoples cultural and spiritual history. As Democrats, I ask of every one of you not allow land acknowledgments like these simply be the checking of a box. Be curious Ask questions, ensure our native neighbors are heard and work in partnership with your indigenous communities. Honor the legacy of this land and its people by engaging today with each other with honesty humility respect and compassion So much talk talk talk here in Fredericksburg. We are actually bringing Comanche nation back I hadn't told you about this no yeah, well the story goes that Fredericksburg had a treaty with Comanche Nation of the Comanche Treaty of 1847 which we never broke? I'm not quite sure what the treaty was But I've had no flaming arrows so I guess it's still in case in effect

36:04 So, but we're bringing him back to the Hill Country for the...actually it was the Meusebach-Comanche Treaty of 1847. The Meusebach, Meuse is one of the original founders of Fredericksburg and wouldn't you know? We're opening up this huge like retail hotel space It's actually not far from our house. It's on the west side of town, which is going to do a lot for the west side of town So it's all commercial and we're bringing them back in for commercial stuff We're gonna do The Frontier Fest at Fort Scott Comanche Nation They are bringing the Comanches back to add to the tourist attraction list? Yes! Exactly But we are gonna pay them

36:49 They're going to get paid, it's gonna be good. Yeah I think so! We're friendly to the Indian, to our Comanche Nation. So we had the Hill Country Indian Artifacts Show that was just last week... The Comanche Nation meeting took place earlier this week and then Frontier Fest Where, I don't know. I think we'll build totem poles and stuff yeah well it's better than this Totem poles are not Comanche What are totem poles? All those poles are in the Pacific Haida H-A-I-D-E-A type Indians up in the Pacific Northwest Oh really

37:29 Yeah. Oh, I thought all Indians had totem poles? No there's just this group that is very...I don't think there are any other outside of the state of Washington and B.C.. All right shifting gears from the First Nations The President had another fabulous cabinet meeting I don't know if you had a chance to see any of it. Yeah, I watched it some of it was I thought entertaining? I thought our future president Rubio cuz man he's pushing he's pushing for it He did his little mic drop Iran speech. The most important job any president has is to keep the American people safe and every president says it but we have a president that means it and does something about it as the President outlined very clearly to the world on the night this operation began, Iran has been at war with the United States for 47 years. For 47 years Iran has been killing Americans and attacking Americans across this

38:28 planet. And other presidents had an opportunity to do something about it, and they all warned about how Iran was dangerous but they refused to act. This president is not someone that's going to refuse to act. He's not going to leave in danger like this in place he's going to address it and that is what he is doing from the very first night of this operation The President made it very clear people like this and now what I'm talking about is not the people of Iran. The people that run this country are radical Shia clerics these are religious fanatics Look what they are doing now at their weakest point. This is the weakest Iran has ever been and look at what they're doing, they're attacking embassies, they're attacking hotels. Imagine what these people would do if they had a nuclear weapon that is an unacceptable risk for the world by the way The President's not just doing a favor to the United States and our people, this is for the world He defined very clearly on the first night of this operation with the goal was

39:18 We were going to destroy Iran's navy, and that is happening. If it hasn't already happened I'll let Pete speak to the specifics of it we were going to destroy their missile launching capabilities. We're well on our way to achieving that goal. We are going to destroy the factory so they couldn't make more missiles and more drones And that is moving forward Every single objective The President clearly laid out on the first night of this operation Is being effectuated again Petal speak to the specifics of it This has been incredibly successful operation. Every day, it may not get covered because you know we're unlike them we're not bombing embassies and hotels were hitting military targets." What I like about Rubio in these cabinet meetings is he speaks to the press everyone else is like oh mr president well under your leadership hmm Mr President and Rubio just goes for it he's like nah let me just tell you press people what I think so our gay general Patton Scott Besant

40:16 I thought he was the most interesting of the meeting. Did you see any of what he said? No, I can't think of anything Well here's his intro where I think he's saying that my job is important because economic security and financial security is national security. Your economic leadership has made our military mission possible, Mr President National Security as you always say is economic security your leadership has shown the American people that there is no prosperity without security that our mighty military on one side, but the US economic strength is fighting off this evil regime. The Iranians believe they are fighting a two-front war it is the military war that our great warriors are prosecuting

41:09 But on the other side, they are trying to take control of the global economy through a choke point that we believe does not exist and that we will overcome. The historic operation at Epic Fury seized a generational opportunity to demolish a regime that has coordinated over four decades of global terror and claimed thousands of American lives Many people, especially the Democrats underestimate the will of the American people for short-term volatility. For 50 years of safety that we are going to have on the other side of this and I believe energy prices will be lower

41:49 Inflation will be lower before we had the appearance of security which is not real security. Now, the American people and the world will have absolute security I've been talking to The Oil Baron a lot lately for obvious reasons because he's right in the middle of this He bought $77 put and $115 calls on his oil. I thought, you know... I'm not quite sure what that means. It's arbitrage? Yeah oh it's complete arbitrage so but that's his risk spread is hey 70 we can't lose if it goes below 77 and we're not going to win above 115 but he too he says I am surprised and I thought a Texas oil man would know because I'm surprised how impacted the world is

42:41 By the by the Iranian regime by the by the straight. Yeah, I had no idea I'm getting here. I'm getting notes from Some one of our producers actually that's a yeah the guy you know somebody in the cabinet or in the Idea over the Department of War for somebody in the CIA Or somebody and they had to know about that this was gonna happen. Oh, they must have known and I think it's... What if they didn't? Well the next clip tells me i think they did but it makes a lot more sense now that Obama sent hundreds of millions of dollars on pallets over to Iran because everyone was afraid of this like ah I don't want this on my watch I don't want this nonsense happening. Yeah maybe But Besant what he says in this

43:34 This thing was planned for a long time. This could be him saying it after the fact, but I'm going to take it at face value they were planning this for over a year Through your maximum pressure campaign Treasury has worked to uncover all financial lifelines through the regime and cut them off You gave that order last March This was not something that happened overnight. This is something that has been contemplated for almost a year. The Iranian financial system collapsed in December We have systematically weakened Iran's ability to fund operations and procure weapons

44:14 And that required months of preparations. Threats to American national security have no place in the global economic system The oil market is well supplied, we've taken actions to ensure oil supplies stranded at sea are made available to the global market Your bold actions like the Development Finance Corporation's Maritime Reinsurance Program in conjunction with Central Command will soon provide shippers through the Gulf region with a level of security we have never seen before. Mr President, We are starting to see more and more movement in and out of the Gulf today And this is more than yesterday, and this is the beginning

44:56 I am confident that shipping traffic will continue to increase on a daily basis even before we secure the straits. So it sounds like they were on this, cutting off their financial lines making sure that they depleted some of their capabilities and then struck once Netanyahu told them to of course So, you know it sounds like they had a plan here. Well I'm sure they did but not sure that they expected it to go this way. I guess Rubio has some comment thats going to last another four weeks Yeah I think I have that here hold on a second John Kennedy also said why don't we just get out? We won! Which is my approach Where's the uh... where's my Rubio? Here we go this was on the tarmac This isn't gonna be a full-on concert

45:47 The objectives I've outlined to you, again I repeat them because I see these reports like the US is not clear on what objectives are. We have been as clear as we can possibly be from the very first night of what the objectives for this mission are. We're going to destroy their factories that make missiles and rockets and drones. We're gonna destroy their Navy. We're gonna destroy their Air Force And we are going significantly destroy their missile launchers so they can never hide behind those things To get a nuclear weapon. We can achieve-we are achieving all those objectives. We are ahead of schedule on most of them And we can achieve them without any ground troops. Without any! Now, in terms of why there's deployments... Number one The president has to be prepared for multiple contingencies which I'm not going to discuss in the media. And again, I refer you to Department of War who will probably tell you the exact same thing but we can achieve all our objectives with our ground troops but we are always gonna be prepared to give the President maximum optionality and maximum opportunity to adjust to contingencies should they emerge. Optionality! Need some op... So just back to the cabinet meeting for a moment so after Besson does this whole thing

46:50 And then he says how great everything here is at home, which I think most people who are listening would dispute. Without a doubt Europe UK Asia they're talking about going back to work from home! It's like we got no gas it's gonna be the worst since the 70s Yeah, we're paying more but I don't think we have those types of problems. So no, I'm sure that we can ride that out a lot longer so he goes through this whole thing and then here's what the president says. I'm in Treasury. He might not be so good for war, I don't know. No, pretty good too! I'm looking at this guy he's central casting even the glasses are perfect. We need those glasses. I think i'm going to get glasses. That's beautiful

47:46 He's done a great job. You all have, proud of you all? Eh, proud of ya'll. Proud of ya'all. Well at least it sounds like he has a plan and it's not written down anywhere on paper that we can read but... I'm sure is written down somewhere Why why do you think we need to get out so quickly? I mean besides the fact that war sucks Well, if we've done all every here's my problem. The stuff that Trump says we've done which is take out their Navy the army there guys this guy that guy There's no Air Force. There's no command and control. There's nothing has left a

48:23 a vacuum of these IRG renegades. I think they're all acting independently and you, and they're all over the place. And each one might be wanting to vie for power at some point. You've gotta let this thing settle out Otherwise, you're never gonna get the straits open again because one nut ball or another or any number of them someplace with some of those Shaheed drones for example can keep the thing shut down forever. The problem with the Shaheed drone which has always fascinated me and I don't understand how this happened

49:01 Those things cost $75,000 to make. They have wooden props and they go slow and then you get the big bomb in them and they blow stuff up and they're not that great but... They're basically modern V1s Yeah, kinda. With a less advanced propulsion system. And so... The 75 it cost us to shoot them down unless you can get a jet up in the air which is not cheap. It costs us a million bucks to shoot one down. Well $330,000 for a missile So it cost 300,000 to 75,000 I mean go broke they have enough of these things

49:45 Get out, let things settle down. Let the straits get reopened so people don't freak out and see what happens But that doesn't seem to be the idea The idea seems... No no it's definitely not the idea The idea seems take Karg Island be in control of everything and they're still, they still want to get rid of some of these IRGC guys. But here's General Frank McKenzie retired on with Margaret from this morning. One of the things that Iran had been waiting to do was activate its militias or the militias it supports in Yemen, the Houthis over the weekend they jumped into the fight

50:29 Yeah, we were missing those guys. They hadn't shown up and all of a sudden right on cue And fired on Israel Do you think that this is a game changer given that they could not just disrupt the Strait of Hormuz but another passageway through the Red Sea? Margaret, I don't think it will be a game changer. Their ability to attack Israel is quite limited Yes they will have the ability to further stop slow traffic through the Bab El Mendeb going up into the Suez Canal We have the ability go down there and prevent that It will require additional resources but we have those resources and we can certainly do it if that becomes necessary

51:06 Well, the president has made clear that he needs to reopen the Strait of Hormuz. His language has been contradictory on some of these points as to who's going to do it and when? What is the military reality of making it passable? We're on our way to doing that now Margaret this is part of a plan that's been in existence for many years what we are doing right now is reducing Iranian ability to target ships in the strait through their short range missiles, drones and other activities We do that by maintaining air superiority over southern Iran on a 24-7 basis, looking for where these missiles are and striking them relentlessly. Once we reduce those to very low level then you'll be able to go in if necessary sweep from mines I'm not certain they put mines in the water yet

51:52 predict eventually they will, it's their nature. But we have the ability to do this. We're on plan I'll be honest with you Margaret, I've simulated this many years in many positions at Central Command. We're a little further along than we would have expected to be at this point and all of the simulations that i've seen All right, so they were ready for this. It's been a plan for years? Everybody says we're further along Yeah well let's go to the next one So the president had posted he's postponed the deadline to open the Strait of Hormuz as A result of the Iranian government asking for it He says he shifted that to April 6th at 8 p.m We also hear from the Secretary of State that he is talking to the allies about a post-conflict necessity of having other countries help to essentially police this strait. And he said that you will need tankers to have military escorts, so this doesn't sound like this is a short term project. This sounds like even if combat ends we're going

52:56 a military presence in the region for some time. Am I wrong? Margaret, you could be right. Let's see what happens I think a negotiated there are two ways the Strait of Hormuz can be opened it can be open if the Iranians negotiate with us to open it and course that is our solution The other solution would be if they don't and decide to fight we can open the strait under that condition too The second condition is obviously a lot more intensive in terms of ships and equipment they would have to bring into the region And yes help from our allies would certainly be very useful in that case We have the ability to open the Strait of Hormuz under any condition that the Iranians choose to exist under. Yeah, so there- So we're maybe keeping it artificially closed final clip is boots on the ground Does it appear to you that one of the contingencies That they White House is planning for given that they're continuing to move troops into the region and and you have these Marines Who are moving into the area as well?

53:55 Are they preparing for a ground troop presence? And what does that look like? Margaret, for many years we've considered options along the southern coast of Iran. Seizing islands, seizing small bases typically raids and a raid is an operation with a planned withdrawal you're not going to stay but some of those islands you could seize and hold that would have a couple effects first of all it would be profoundly humiliating for Iran it would give us great weight in negotiations The second, the example of Karg Island which everyone talks about. If you seize Karg Island you really can shut down the Iranian oil economy completely and the beauty of seizing it is your not destroying it your retaining for further use by the global economy and possibly for return to Iran under certain conditions so all these things this is not back in the envelope calculations these are things we've been working on many years and I think were right

54:51 to threaten the entire electoral, to hold all these options out there. And I think the president's message is spot on when he talks about all these alternatives. So season hold is that? That brings me to this screwy clip I picked up off of a recording done at like four in the morning on one of the networks without one of your oh my God, I can't sleep mornings No, it was just running. This is a Navy Intel guy and we know Navy Intelligence is the progenitor of all these people. Yeah they typically do podcasts. And he's like yeah this guy would be one of them. They're on X and do podcasts! He is uh...X of course, X Navy Intel. Mm-hmm. And the funny thing is great that he's got all his up to date information for some unknown reason I don't know. And I thought this was because this kind of ties in with what the other guy just said

55:43 So let's bring in former Naval Intelligence Officer Captain Todd Sawhill. Captain, thank you for joining us help square for us the fact that we just heard Secretary of State Marco Rubio saying that this is about two to four weeks left but yet reports of 10,000 more troops being sent to the region after we already know the 82nd Airborne on their way and then of course that Marine 31st MEU is on its way so I I think the movement of the ground forces and the enablers, and as you mentioned particularly The elements of the 82nd really center around making sure the president has maximum options. Optionality! Ground operations in any part of Iran are necessary and before I just list off all the key islands, I don't necessarily want to focus on that because i don't want to telegraph what we may or may not do because really that's at the decision-making level for the President and Secretary of Defense but beyond holding territory risk those forces could also be used for internal security in and around the bases in the region

56:49 as well as potentially raids for the nuclear material should President determine that's the only way to retrieve it because we're currently at such loggerheads on conditions for cessation between the US and Iran. So ultimately, it is all about options as we continue really set the conditions with rolling back missile drone and air-to-ground forces that have been significantly degraded over the last three weeks. Right, so that fits in with Rubio's optionality everything is an optionality so we have options here are the boots on the ground updates from our producer in the region which I thought was interesting. Wild Morning still alive, been up since 2am followed by the most aggressive 5 hours in Bahrain 20 ballistic missiles and 37 drones The trend seems that they are aggressively swarming the skies to overcome the good interception rates

57:39 The problem here is that the country is just too small for that kind of action. The overall size of the whole island is the size of San Diego or Austin, and the economy is too small for such a beating." Each interception is a Patriot missile which he says costs a couple million We are still trying our best to build a tourism economy and that is really hurting our strained economy. So, our good friend Netanyahu decided to aggressively bomb three steel plants across Iran for some reason unlike all other targets Israeli press explicitly stated steel plants were hit although they don't usually reveal this type of target in most cases In return, our good neighbors Iran decided to attack five steel and aluminum plants in the GCC

58:21 stating to punish the enemy for attacking civilian infrastructure. The guy was crazy enough to bomb near Bushar nuclear facility, an active nuclear power plant which triggered an alarmed response from the whole region on potential nuclear meltdown and Putin himself as the plant is operated by Russia's state atomic energy corporation Rosatom. The US seems to be building a massive set of ground troops as it turned to push the negotiation under extreme pressure And the Israelis are trying every possible way to expand and complicate the conflict A ground invasion is nearly impossible. Taking away islands within the effective shooting range of Iran may result in high casualties among the best marine units that US has to offer Let's hope Trump can retain him further because he causes a bigger mess He's talking about Netanyahu and maybe managed to get JD to the front To build his peacemaker legacy and secure the GOP vote for the next 10 years So that's how they're thinking in the region

59:20 Which sounds about right. So we had CPAC, which this is the first time President Trump has not attended CPAC due to the war and other things he's busy But they had some interesting speakers. Reverend Franklin Graham came out, pretty unimpressive speech I didn't pull any clips from it and he's mainly because he started off with you know Iran We had a weak president, Jimmy Carter and they had our people in the embassy for 400 days. And the minute President Reagan came in they let him all out because they were afraid of him." I'm like no that don't think so Reverend. No, no. That was a different deal at the time but also invited was the crown prince Reza Pahlavi which

1:00:18 I don't know. Well, it seemed like CPAC was almost the conservative Persian action Congress or whatever they call it convention because the Persians came out like crazy for this guy The only thing that the remnants of this regime can be relied on to do is to buy time To cheat and to steal They will never be honest or true partners for peace President Trump was right when he said we don't want to come back every two years But if a faction of the regime is left in power, that is exactly what will happen. It will buy time it will pretend to negotiate and then return to its old jihadist ways of threatening America's security and interests. They might promise a short period of artificial calm

1:01:15 but it would inevitably be followed by the same terrorism, the same nuclear blackmail and the same cries of death to America. Because the truth is simple The Islamic Republic cannot reform itself You cannot reform a snake Venom is in its DNA This extends to the corrupt and brutal thugs of the IRGC. Because the IRGC is not Iran's national army, indeed it does not even have the word Iran in its name – it is the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps

1:02:04 It serves its own poisonous ideology of terror and not Iran's national interests. So it can certainly never be a partner to serve America's interests." So I cut all of those applauses, I had to cut out 15 seconds... Oh i'm sure they went on forever. And then they started chanting! Thank you so much. Thank you so much. I have four minutes left, and I'm halfway through my speech. You know when I was a student at Berkeley it's the same Iranian students who promoted getting rid of the Shah, the Shamas go... Yeah

1:02:51 It was the American Persians that pretty much created this monstrosity they're stuck with. And now these kids, these kids... I don't know if you can get it right ever. You're saying it wrong. These kids! I can't quite do it. These kids So, I'll just finish up with him. 30 seconds of President Trump rocks. The only path to lasting peace and stability runs through a clean break with this regime for the first time in 47 years President Trump's strategy has given us a real chance to achieve that outcome For decades every American president since Jimmy Carter chose to try to manage this looming threat rather than resolve it

1:03:40 Each of them has failed. They have only made the problem worse, the result has been more dead Iranians and more dead Americans So the mullah's operated on the assumption that America didn't have the stomach to confront them decisively That assumption began to collapse when President Trump ordered a strike on Qassem Soleimani Yeah so Plan or no plan. Well, you know Carter didn't have the stomach to stop it and stop it Reagan didn't have this stomach once after the barracks were blowed up he took off mm-hmm Nobody wanted to do anything about this but yes and then and then we had Bush he was too busy protecting his oil fields in Iraq or daddy's oil fields? and Kuwait

1:04:34 And Obama went, let me just hang out with the Muslim Brotherhood and I'll pay you guys. Yeah, I'll pay you guys off and shh... Calm down here! So Trump this is his legacy move that seems clear Well, I hope he pulls it off War is not my favorite thing Well we will see Anyway He goes to... Wait, do I have a clip about some of this? Where's my analysis clips? You're back to full strength. You're titling them anal, so you must be on the mend What I type what oh that means analysis yeah, I know Yes, I'm aware Well there's one about the let we might as well bring the Lebanese stuff in and then we can look for the other one

1:05:27 Lebanese vicinity stuff. This is an overview of what the Israelis are doing while we're trying to take over Iran. Connected to this is fighting that's happening in Lebanon, that's where Israel has launched invasion of the south of the country and Iran-backed Hezbollah has been firing back Can you just update us on what's happening there? Absolutely. There have been more than a million Lebanese displaced and that's like 20% of the population as Israel depopulates entire towns in Beirut's huge southern suburbs, and the impact of that invasion and the fighting between Israel and Hezbollah is becoming increasingly dangerous to document

1:06:08 Israel today killed three journalists in an airstrike on their vehicle. One of them was a correspondent for Hezbollah's television channel who has been reporting from the south for almost 30 years, and Israel claimed without evidence he was a Hezbollah operative – in fact, a member of one of their elite forces But the actions that Israel described, identifying where Israeli forces were and contacts with Hezbollah are actually normal journalistic practices. Israel didn't comment on the other two journalists killed with him. We've talked so far about the latest developments in this now month-long war but are there other repercussions worth pointing to right now for other countries? Absolutely! This war is so different because it's

1:06:57 It's really difficult to find any country untouched by this in the region. You know, one of the effects is that some of the busiest airports in the region have shut down leaving people stranded Israel has restricted outgoing flights and this week the U.S. Embassy in Israel announced it was arranging buses from Israel to the Amman Airport in Jordan to fly people out of here Kuwait announced that its airport radar had been damaged. Its airport has been closed for almost a month I love how they How she portrays? Oh, it's the beautiful southern some beautiful suburbs of southern Lebanon Lebanon has been a mess since I was a kid at one time It was the Paris of the Middle East yeah in the 60s late sixties and

1:07:45 I don't know, probably late 60s. Yeah well Iran was cool then too! Here's the clips this is the Iran Houthis update in PR Iranian-backed Houthi rebels in Yemen have entered the US Israeli war on Iran firing a missile at Israel which Israel says was intercepted it's the first time Israel faced fire from that country since the war began and it opens a new front in the two month old conflict Meanwhile, the Pentagon says around 3500 sailors and Marines have arrived in the Middle East. MPR Sean D'Elise Duster has more. U.S Central Command said Saturday in a social media post that about 3500 sailors and marines arrived in the Middle East aboard the USS Tripoli

1:08:30 The 31st Marine Expeditionary Unit based in Okinawa, Japan arrived in the Middle East on Friday. The post said the unit also has transport and strike fighter aircraft as well as amphibious assault and tactical assets. US Central Command did not say what mission the unit will be carrying out at least 2000 additional soldiers have been ordered to deploy to the Middle East where the U S already has 40,000 to 50,000 troops People always leave out the fact that you already have 50,000 troops there. Oh yeah! Scattered around... Yeah So, and here's the analysis. We're joined by NPR's Jane Araf who is following events from Amman Jordan. Jane thanks for taking the time Thank you Can you start with telling us what happened in Saudi Arabia? Well this was an attack on the Prince Sultan Air Base And that's a Saudi base but it's also a regional US military hub That focuses on aerial refueling and missile defense systems

1:09:31 At least six missiles and more than two dozen drones were fired by Iran, according to US officials who requested anonymity. And military experts are calling it a serious breach of US air defenses. Several of those wounded service people were reported to be seriously wounded. The attacks also damaged refueling tankers. Iran released Chinese satellite images that appeared to show burning aircraft and it said it had destroyed two of the airborne tankers. They refueled fighter jets in the air, and damaged others. That's after Israel struck three Iranian steel plants and a nuclear facility The International Nuclear Watchdog said there was no risk of radiation leak from that strike Yeah There is alot of action There definitely lot of action. The GCC, the Gulf

1:10:27 Is it the Gulf Commonwealth? What do they call that, GCC. Not sure. Well they call them the GCC states so they have also filed with United Nations just like the US did under Article 51 saying hey we are reaffirming our full and inherent right to self-defense and we're going to start striking back so it looks like we've got them on our side Although I still get a lot of military commentary saying, no everyone hates us. They want us out of our bases...I don't know You're right! A lot of action we don't actually know anything Breaking news nobody knows nothing Right So President Trump had a Saudi investors summit which is all money coming into America and he had some interesting commentary

1:11:23 They are negotiating, they're begging to make a deal. They're begging to make a deal turned out I was right there were negotiated which they admitted two days later and in order to Make up for their misstatement They said we're going to send you eight ships of oil and the following day us on this is two days ago So in one of the networks very strange There were eight ships of oil coming out of Iran And then they actually said we're gonna add an extra two and they added an extra two so we had ten ships. Then people realized that were actually negotiating, now we are negotiating now it would be great if we could do something but they have to open it up the Strait of Trump I mean Hormuz excuse me for this

1:12:09 I'm so sorry. Such a terrible mistake, the fake news will say he accidentally said no there's no accidents with me not too many If they were would have a major story No well we had that with the Gulf of Mexico remember? The Gulf of Mexico And then it goes into this whole Gulf America thing The Strait of Trump Okay But by the way There is NO evidence that there was any eight or to ten ships that went through with none I've seen if anything two

1:12:45 Yeah, well this is one guy has a video show on YouTube. The state of shipping today I think is what it's called. He beat tracks every single ship! I don't see it he says... Where are you talking about? There's zero ships But he also said well there's a lot of GPS spoofing and that ship is over there but I think it's over here So, you know nobody really knows anything. Well there's again no evidence I think Trump is full of it well that wouldn't be the first time but you don't know No, that's a problem Besson says that you know there's oil at sea That we do know Yeah tons so and he's allowing that to be offloaded so that's probably helping somebody somewhere

1:14:31 This is regarding our own economy here and the fabulous AI hype that we're in hmm It was just kind of telling the way he answered this question. We'll take some questions Thank you, thank you very much mr.. President. Thank you so much And thank you for accepting to take five questions without ought to take too much of your time So let's talk about business in one sentence Where should the world invest in America right now? Well, I look the one that they're going crazy about is AI. Yeah Now sometimes you'll say let's go the opposite because I've seen it You know everyone goes but a I is going crazy AI so my family we made Don aired the whole family

1:15:15 Erica's doing a good job, all of us Ivanka. We like real estate when you can make money in real estate it is great business but I see some guys come into my office wearing t-shirts at 24 years old dad he has got net worth $24 billion I said you gotta be kidding off little contraption so But the money seems to be- I just gotta stop. Offer a little contraption! Yeah, it's contraptions who make money. His contraptions are doing it! Dad he has got a net worth of 24 billion dollars. I said you've gotta be kidding me. Offer little contraption so but the money seems to be right now AI and also if your in school like your going to Wharton School or Stern School or any these great schools

1:16:06 I mean, the numbers that they're paying to go into that business is incredible. Where you see people getting a $10 million bonus to sign like baseball players or football players We're giving you a 10 million. I mean, I hate to say cuz it sounds ridiculous but there have been some $100 million bonuses paid to sign so i think probably if you want to say one thing AI and just hope that it works right? You better hope! He's like, I hope it works Well, it seems like we have this interesting race now between open AI and Anthropic. Who's going to come out first? Who is going to go public first? Yeah, this is funny. And Anthropic for all I can see they're killing it!

1:16:59 Because those guys focus on one thing and one thing only, code. Make sure the thing can code and all the developers I know have now moved over to Claude everybody's using Claude to code it's not a chat but like you know it's not like OpenAI they focused on kind of general chat entertainment answering questions They don't seem to have the the coding part down as much But they certainly have the user base and then we got a boots on the ground Because I'm always wondering how things are gonna. How they're paying for all of this This is from was this Natalie, I think

1:17:45 I was at the playground the other day and started talking to one of the dads there. Uh-huh, hitting up the dads at the playground? He mentioned he worked in the finance department of Google for The Gemini Group I mentioned, I was curious about the profitability of AI because I heard a lot of companies are bleeding money. A big grin popped up on his face he told me that Gemini was profitable because they've integrated the entire supply chain Google doesn't have to rent out data centers They already have them or buy chips from Nvidia They developed their own i think Yeah We wanted to discuss more but his little girl started get upset so we had to move to a different part of the playground

1:18:26 That you know, I Gemini they have an interesting for Cirque's. They've got a great advantage They got and then they've got all the YouTube stuff And they've got Google and now this well who are the winners gonna be? And Rick Rick Beto our boy Rick Beto over there the music guy he's come to the same conclusion I have about using local models at home. Many of them will not be built when people start using AI locally, meaning on their computer. And the same thing that happened to the music business and recording is going to happen to these AI companies because people are gonna realize oh I can do this at my house! I don't need to be paying these companies if a 64 year old guy like me can figure this out last night and show you today

1:19:24 How hard can this stuff be? People are using these things, Suno and UDO and everything for music creation. People are taking their business contracts and everything they're feeding into ChatGPT people are taking any of their business things or financial information they're feeding it into these things and they're training off your data that you own yourself your own personal information your own intellectual properties And why is that? Because you and me are the product. So who are the winners and losers of this? Well, the companies that make hardware like Apple Google Nvidia

1:20:03 Any company that makes computers, computer chips things like that those are the ones that are going to be the winners. Unfortunately the ones who are going to be losers in my opinion are the companies that make these AI programs for most people's needs individuals and businesses even good-sized businesses you can do these things on your own computers offline. What are you doing with your mic? I got my foot tangled up in the cord. Apple may have a really interesting advantage here, they have that M4... what is it called? It's not uh yeah i don't know what it's called but let me mention that I should mention something JC talked about he says that new apple laptop

1:20:59 Yeah, five hundred ninety-five bucks. Oh, yeah Finally has a touchscreen and he says it's a killer Yeah that really got underplay or downplay you didn't get played at all I didn't even know anything about it But I know that they did just colorful well I know that the Mac minis are sold out for months everybody's got a Mac mini yeah but it's the what is the They have a special so they use their their RAM there regular RAM Yeah, you can load it up with RAM. You can load it up with 256 gigabytes or more I think...I don't know about the Mac Mini and it can automatically allocate some of that RAM instead of a GPU like an NVIDIA card so they may accidentally have done something really smart We'll see Obviously we'll see! Nobody knows anything John

1:21:56 And then, this is the best. I'd love to hear your opinion on this. What is the clip? You don't know what my clip is yet! Nooo! Wrong! Elon Musk's SpaceX is suiting up to launch its IPO, a public share sale that would value the rocket company at an eye-watering $1.5 trillion dollars First reported by the tech site The Information, the sale is expected to float some 5% of the company's equity aiming to raise around 75 billion dollars which would make it the largest IPO in history

1:22:36 Unlike many tech firms seeking investor funding on public markets, SpaceX already has significant cash flow. Largely thanks to the lucrative government contracts it receives and its major profit generator Starlink. The satellite internet provider is estimated to have generated $8 billion in 2025, accounting for 50-80% of SpaceX's total revenue. So why go public? The SpaceX acquisition of xAI in February saddled it with a cash hungry subsidiary that is reportedly burning through a billion dollars per month as it uses to catch up with rivals like Open AI and Anthropic

1:23:13 both of which are also planning to go public. IPO proceeds would also fund further development of the Starship rocket and more aspirational projects like AI data centers in space, a moon-based alpha, a self reliant lunar city The move comes with potential downsides for the notoriously regulation-averse Musk like requirements for public performance reports and having to answer to Wall Street analysts. 1.75 trillion dollar valuation Are you kidding me? That's crazy. And he is talking about, yeah we need one terawatt of compute... I don't think investors are buying his bull crap anymore We'll see how much it sells out You think? Really?! Yeah it's only a small part of the company

1:24:11 They're not unloading everything. No, but still the valuation is high! It's ridiculous And his XAI is junk... it's junk because he was trained on junk. It's just junk Yeah and all he ever touts on X is oh look at this Oh look at this animation of this pixie girl flying around a clock looks great Okay Who's gonna pay for that? Yeah, my money all these IPOs are gonna be the death and nail of the market. Well everyone has to get out We got a we'll make it we got well the early investors will get out no maybe No I'm reminded that game company back in the 80s that Waited one day too long to do the IPO when the market crashed Oh what was that Sega?

1:25:05 No, no. Sega was...no, Sega is different. Uh, no it was a specifically cartridge company that made cartridges for the Atari 2600. Wow Here's I thought you I was so I thought you might be bringing this up, which is the asked my astronaut clip Which is very disappointing if true We're all disappointed John the NASA astronaut who suffered that medical scare offering new insight tonight Mike Fink says he suddenly could not speak for 20 minutes on the International Space Station his crew of course noticing him in distress it prompted that first medical evacuation for NASA and

1:25:42 Fink now saying doctors believe it was not choking or a heart attack, but he's still undergoing tests to determine what it really was. Yeah yeah that was not if true that was not our your prediction I should say your prediction of a pregnancy pregnancy in space and notice something like that where you can't talk for 20 minutes never happens to a female astronaut just saying yeah there it is took me a minute to get it out but there it is I've got an offbeat clip if you want to hear it sure Alex Jones has a new sidekick

1:26:19 He does? The guy's name is Bashing or something. But no, he didn't know Bashing was the name of the clip. He's introduced in here... This guy Alex has always had this second, you know these secondary guys that come in and could fill in and do a show themselves. Yeah! And they eventually run off and do their own shows. Yeah like that British kid... You could have become one of them? Yeah but I already had a partner who I love and cherish. Although I'm noticing my voice is starting to sound like him today. Try this- I've read the documents

1:26:57 I've read the documents. I know their plan! I know their plans... Maybe, so here he is bashing- He hates the Zeds for some reason Here he is with his buddy, his new buddy, bashing the zed's and it just an eye roller Burma's good to see you, I've been loving you hosting this show What a crazy time to be alive here. It certainly is Alex and just to kind of piggyback on what you were talking about via this generation and being just addicted to the scroll box. And it's not just this idea of track trace database, it's not just this idea of totally and completely taking away their attention. The studies are now out you know? This was going to be part of me talking about AGI what's going on right now with these data centers

1:27:54 But we're talking about a generation right now, Generation Z quote unquote. That is not interested in the real world they don't want to date they don't want jobs they don't want a car because it's their own little comfortable world well they're 40% less cognizant in both speech and writing period full stop Major studies 40% less cognizant speech and thought literally retarded so bottom line, you see it phones and smartphones and games have literally made the younger generations are retarded.

1:28:31 Well, look at it this way Alex. You know my generation your generation were only about five years apart I would argue maybe the people 10-15 years younger than us are really what created this idea of a podcast. I mean you're a pioneer in that outside of the mainstream media aka long form content yet when we started seeing these video platforms ever emerging...you just mentioned Metta well they own Instagram This is a bunch of bullcrap. I thought so too, and I stopped it at that point where he brings up the obviosity that Meta... you say something like, you know what? Hey Adam, you got me there? Yeah, yeah I'm here what? You know what Adam? What? Meta owns Instagram! No get out of town next year you're gonna tell me they own WhatsApp no no no you can't be telling me that

1:29:27 Yeah, this is bad for Alex. I don't know why he's chosen this particular...I've seen this sidekick, but i don't know the guy's name The guy? The guys interesting He's also a UFC guy! He's like a Rogan Ohhhh okay And that's the reason That's the hook No This is because Alex is on the wrong side of this 40% of the Zeds are exactly the audience he can pull in because they don't want the phones They are going way more conservative. They want to date! I know they want vinyl discs. They want cassette tapes. And this whole contingent that wants cassette tape Yeah, and look at Brunetti's kid... they want Bibles. I'm telling you He is wrong about this The people who were addicted are Gen X

1:30:23 Yeah, I agree. They're the ones that are completely sucked into this stuff! Man the women here in Fredericksburg... And older millennials too. Older Millennials yeah....yeah I mean, and they're watching Candace Owens. They're on the edge of their seat every day at four o'clock. Oh, Candice is coming! That Erika Kirk...I'm telling you she's no good She's no good And then in the short form videos they're doom-scrolling their butts off The only saving grace for them is that GLP1 will help stop their addiction This is coming Maybe This is my new prediction After erectile dysfunction

1:31:02 GLP-1, Ozempic will help you stop your doom scrolling addiction. It already does for cocaine and alcohol, you know? Supposedly... it wouldn't surprise me So that's coming Since you mentioned Candace Uh oh I have a supercut that was done by Milk Bar TV of every comment she's made about getting to the bottom of the Charlie Kirk assassination over the last two and half years. How long is this thing? Is it 15 minutes long? It could have been, but I think he did it. What is the length? Oh 114 okay yeah 114 not bad here we go Going and we are definitively getting closer to what took place on that day And we are getting closer. I think we're close We are definitively getting closer. We're getting close Very close we're inching ever closer

1:31:57 We are now I believe extremely close to solving this thing as I get inch closer and closer to discovering the truth. I've got a feeling about that where we're close, but getting closer to something and that something is pretty big it just sense that were getting close. I sense that we are getting very close and we are getting closer or getting very close to something. We're getting closer, because we are getting close. We are definitely getting closer... Very close! We are very close. We are close. We are dangerously close to something. We are dead close to something and I think every day we are inching closer who killed Charlie Kirk?

1:32:36 You know we're getting close. We're inching ever closer, we are inching closer a little closer to solving the Charlie Kirk murder and I'm getting very close and we are getting very close but i'm getting closer! I'm getting real close my prayers are with you Candace you are close we are close and we're getting closer to the truth get closer we are getting close She's very close now. Jason Burmiss is the name of the guy, the sidekick He also I think he was one of the producers of The Loose Change that... Remember that? The docu- quote unquote documentary about 9 11 No Yeah, Loose Change and 911 in American Coup That's what it was It came out around 20 2009 2010 Yeah there's something about And I feel there's a backlash growing

1:33:31 against Candace, just the whole group because it's so annoying. It's so much infighting and you've got Megyn Kelly fighting with Mark Levin online You have a micro-penis! What are we doing? I should forbid them from calling their shows podcasts. I think i have the right to do that. They should stop doing that Now, we have two podcasters in our administration which was... I just have to play this for the presentation of it. This is the announcement of a federal healthcare advisory committee and this is your HHS secretary RFK Jr., and Dr. Oz.

1:34:22 They're like doing a podcast now. It's the presentation was just it was all inspiring really Hi, I'm Robert F Kennedy jr.. Your HHS secretary and I'm dr. Memon I CMS administrator code bond The health policy seems like everybody's a pessimist the system is too broken. The interest groups are too powerful the incentives They're malaligned the whole thing's to complicate dr. Oz ever offer some products on TV Was he was he ever it was the only a doctor doctor or did he ever like have some gambit to sell? He was He had a syndicated TV show and there was some product that he sold that was one of these scam-ish, you know wellness things. It does this thing and the other... A wellness thing? And it does nothing! And he got called before Congress and was berated Well its.. This is what the problem here sounds like these guys are selling me something I don't want. This administration rejects that mindset

1:35:24 We take on the broken systems, we challenge the entrenched interests and we fix misaligned incentives to deliver real results. Real results! While bringing together the top talent to take on the toughest challenges And that's why today we are announcing the members of our new health care advisory committee which will develop recommendations for how Secretary Kennedy and I can improve Medicare, Medicaid, the Children's Health Insurance Program and the health insurance marketplaces. Yeah it was- That's right! I think it was Dr Oz green coffee beans This just sounds like an infomercial. Their insights will help us cut costs, slash red tape improve quality of care, keep program solvent and refocus... Crazy Eddie's prices are insane! ...healthcare on the people it is meant to serve- the patients I'm so proud of the team that we've assembled We reviewed more than 400 candidates from all across the country And we selected just 18

1:36:19 These individuals bring extensive experience from state and federal government, from health system management, from non-profits in health technology innovation. Even RFK Jr's doing better with his voice these guys they're pitching hard I know there's something about it that just doesn't feel right You know back to my hospital experience Ah here we go I don't think these hospitals, and I would say specifically the cafeteria where the people that's did the dinners they serve you. This is all stuff from the 1940s. You know, the jello and everything pre-packaged horrible puddings a bunch of everything aspartame it's loaded with artificial sweeteners

1:37:10 It's like nobody ever heard of Kennedy and I see no influence or impact whatsoever from Kennedy. Oh, interesting point yeah well but the Jell-O that's contracts and those contracts have been around since Bill... And it's not even Jell-o! It is some other off brand of gelatin dessert that is unedible It's a gelatin product of a gelatin product. I mean you have no idea how bad the food is I lost like 10 pounds it was like And then they had these dieticians that do the one that was at the hospital, but I've got another one That's better But doing it from the hospital she might as well been from 1963

1:37:56 So old ideas, the old pyramids and lots of carbs. Oh yeah more carbs! What was the typical dinner? They'd have something like a chicken, well just an example of something that was borderline. It wasn't even borderline edible actually it would be a piece of chicken thigh with some you know phony bologna name and some gravy. The chicken thigh is so overcooked that you could literally pick it up and you could pound a nail with it. Unbelievable!

1:38:37 All right, so did they have a potato product? A starch product. They did have like mashed potatoes No salt and so it was like tasteless and the texture wasn't quite right And then string beans string beans Yeah always some string beans yep And then a gelatin product of unknown origin and manufacture date yeah Wow In in a pre-packaged thing that was obviously came off in assembly line Yeah, so is Jano taking care of you? Is she feeding you I mean what's the situation are you in bed most of the day No God no well that's the last thing and that's why had to get out of the hospital because they keep me in bed all Day now. I gotta be up and so

1:39:26 back to these meals, it was like you couldn't eat any of it and then they examined the percentage of what you ate. And that would go in your file, oh we can't eat anymore than that? No! You say it sucks?! Yeah, I know. I complained bitterly the whole time and everybody agreed with me it was one nurse and PA every million of these different titles coming up and down well yeah we were just too bad we can't have food that's edible and as one nurse comes in and i'm bitching as usual about the food and do other one nurses nodding at the other says I think the food here is great

1:40:09 And I said, what? How can you say that she says they used to work at the VA. Oh You have no idea what bad food is Your clueless it's kind of sad have you gotten any have received the bills yet This is what everyone's waiting for well It's gonna be a fortune but nothing yet right we don't know how we don't have any they're late What are these why are they waiting oh I have no idea. We'll find out soon enough So okay, if you don't mind me just asking because people want to know we're all generally concerned for your health and people have to understand It is amazing that you're even doing a podcast Yeah this quickly after your...I mean you are not letterman No letterman went on stage Yes well now Are you going make the meetup on the 11th? Nah probably not Well i'm going try to make it Oh man

1:41:00 You know what you need? You need like Stephen Hawking. Remember when I met, well didn't really meet him but I had dinner in the same restaurant as Stephen Hawking in Los Angeles and he had these babes Like super hot. Yeah, he apparently attracted a lot of babes Super hot nurse babes We can get you some hot nurse babes Just for the meet up I think the bill's too high already At the meet-up yeah have a couple of hot nurses A little elaborate But we did pull that stunt before something similar to that In a competition but in cooking competition in Vegas I'm pretty sure that we can get a couple of our female producers To dress up as you know hot nurses

1:41:39 Just for the photo op? That'd be a good photo. Yeah, you're not into it okay I'm just trying to cheer you up man... I'm over the hill for these sorts of publicity stunts Have you gotten any calls from any of your peers like I don't know The Lib Joes has anyone called? The Lib Joes are clueless they have no idea uh i mean people I talk to a lot we all talk to each other and um Has Leo Laporte called No, he hasn't even said anything about it. Wow... And he has to know! Oh you were on Pod News? I was?! Yeah! You were on pod news John C Dvorak 18 year co-host of the no agenda podcast has had a double bypass we wish him well yeah you're on pod news man you made the pod news Well it's about time I got some publicity Okay so

1:42:40 I'll bring these stories in and out. Alright, well we just want to know is like do you walk outside? Do you only walk it in the house? Well when I'm outside because here's the problem and this is a two-month problem It's a huge problem You have limited use of your arms because if you start doing anything... Oh, it hurts. No it's not that it hurts It is the because as you're cut down the middle of your chest yeah do you have your bone there? That's kind of stapled back together they can't have with a hammer and nail some gaffer tape

1:43:20 And it takes like two months before it's sealed enough that you can take a chance on doing anything. Like for example, if you they say to tell you this which makes it tough to walk around so I think the hospital gave me this kind of rolly walker which I use when I go outside because if you fall down in this 2 month period, oh your screwed It cracks this thing and then the word is if you fall down, you don't have anybody try to get you up. You call 911 Wow! Who needs that aggravation?

1:44:00 Yeah, so you're very careful about things when you're wandering around and so when you're outside this rolling Walker thing which has got four wheels and Handlebars then you can walk like a bat out of hell You use it because you can't take a chance on Stumbling or falling because who the hell needs to start the process over no. No I didn't what did have to rebreak? You they have to cut you open again. I don't know what they do I have no idea Don't want to know want to find out does your Walker have handbrakes Yeah. Cool, and a little seat is cute when it's the cutest thing? No, but it's like you can go you feel very confident with it. But yeah, okay no this is not a thing I would recommend anyone who want to go through but the thing is I Mimi has a friend Richard who had quadruple and he called me up the other day ex police guy from LA

1:44:57 who's a whistleblower made a couple million bucks turning in some mobsters. I don't know yet that he's in the witness protection program up in Washington State now, he's just hiding out and so He had a quadruple and he told me the whole thing, everything that I'm doing now is exactly what happens. And you come out the other end when you're done with the process which is a good four months for the whole thing to blow over and it's okay." It's okay. If you feel better than you did before and there are a lot of benefits, except that you got these scars to show off. Yeah meetups exactly. Hey look! No wait a minute we already discussed this the first rule of group is you don't show your scar That what the guy said

1:45:53 I told you, i mentioned that story where the guy comes in. Yeah we all think you should go to group. I didn't do the kicker Oh what's the kicker? He lifts up his shirt and shows me this. I'm thinking you should go to one of these just for the experience Go to group! Yeah I just might yeah how could it hurt Well, you might be a couple guys with great stories. That's what I'm thinking like hey here's what the babes like There's got to be some kind of contingency of women who just love Oh Can you imagine? You know it was good as I groupies, you know collectors

1:46:34 Yeah, I'm sure there is to be honest about it. Far out with your scar out baby! Alright a couple more clips here before we take a break. I do have the Artemis clip but this is not the one you had this is about the ever delayed moon launch. For the first time in more than 50 years, NASA's about to launch four astronauts near the moon Artemis 2 the more than $55 billion investment is a 10 day mission its goal is to fly astronauts around the Moon and back exploring the feasibility of building a lasting site on the Moon for lunar exploration and future missions to Mars but this step in science comes with a cost

1:47:18 and missed deadlines as those interested in this mission are looking at it with a microscope. Will it be another delayed expensive NASA failure or will this mission be one to impress? I mean, NASA does have a history you can look at a lot of our OIG reports where we are way over budget and substantially behind schedule. NASA's administrator Jared Isaacson admitted to what we all know on Tuesday but added at some point you have to, of course correct and get things back on track back on track after a report from the government accountability office discovered last July that the mission was already close

1:47:53 $7 billion over budget. We have to do some things differently, I think you're seeing it in some of the public support you're seeing it and uh you know the new authorization bill and this is what it takes if we're going to get the job done to go to the moon do so before our rivals Isaacson speaking on the mounting pressure of the international space race a big part of NASA's reputation and what's at stake for this upcoming mission Right now, he says the agency's priority is developing technology to explore the moon. But this sentiment is also a major focus point for those watching from the outside. People expressed skepticism on NASA's focus on the moon as it seems to be distracting from building a replacement International Space Station something that has been deemed completely necessary by experts

1:48:39 NASA announced this week that it will invest $20 billion to build a base on the moon, shelving plans to deploy a space station in lunar orbit. We're trying we're trying to get back into a rhythm were being very transparent. The idea is to make the transition the right way and we have to put everything out on the table People will be watching closely to see how things play out on the moon with Artemis 2 expected to launch on April 1st I just love that date. If someone, if we were in charge of stuff which will never be and someone came in and said oh hey bosses Curry Dvorak We're gonna launch this thing on April 1st. I think both you and I would be like no you're not Right You're gonna choose a different date Yeah This is it's... It would be too stupid if you can't make it Yeah it'd be an embarrassment Well well we'll have to see

1:49:40 Well, this might be a good one for the predictive betting market. Yeah how much longer is that thing gonna last? Will they let this go on forever? Well since it's kind of parimutual they don't lose money because it's like the bets come in from one side and then they change the odds coming from the other side they change the odds and then they take the money from the ones side and give it to the other side and take a piece of the action in the middle. It can go on forever Right that's why they're just calling it an exchange Yeah, it's the exchange. It should be illegal! Period! Parimutuel... Why should it be illegal?

1:50:23 It's encouraging people to gamble. Well, yeah... This is not healthy for the society! Says the man who can barely talk. Yeah well it's beside the point. It's not healthy for society. Play this Kash Patel clip. Oh yeah this was a good story. A classic. Where is Kash? Here we go. Tonight cyber warfare unleashed with With an Iranian-lead group hacking FBI Director Kash Patel's personal email and posting private messages involving Patel's family, and photographs of him at a time before he became director. As this war continues as the regime is under tremendous pressure it wouldn't surprise me to hear that the Iranians are potentially trying

1:51:09 to take things to an even higher level than what they've done already. The hack and posting apparently in direct retaliation for the Justice Department taking down several websites associated with a group known as Handala earlier this month tonight, Handala bluntly describing why they targeted Patel quote While the FBI proudly seized our domains, we decided to respond to this ridiculous show in a way that will be remembered forever. The group claims to have emails conversations documents and even classified files David, the FBI says the hacked material is historical in nature and involves no government information. And the FBI says that US is offering a $10 million reward for information about the Handala hackers. Yeah this is marketing of these Handala hackers... This sounds like I don't know what is the point? It's an old Gmail isn't it?

1:52:06 I don't know. Yeah, well i have a clip and it includes our boy Brennan 15 past with the breaking news right here is seen past the breaking news now reporting iran linked hackers are claiming they have breached the personal email inbox of FBI director cash patel breached those hackers have published photographs of patel along with his purported resume and what appears to be personal... I love the pictures, goofy pictures. Goofy stupid selfies. Correspondence dating between 2010 and 2019 but MSNL has not confirmed that any of those documents are legitimate and DOJ tells our Carol Lennig they do not know the details of this apparent hack

1:52:46 joining us now former CIA director and MSNL senior national security and intelligence analyst John Brennan. How concerning is this report? And we want to point out the hack does not cover his time as FBI director but it does allegedly cover the time he worked in national security and counterterrorism at DOJ And depending on how far into 2019 possibly his time on the National Security Council. Well, Alex, the Iranians have very sophisticated cyber capabilities both from a standpoint of collection as well as disruption and I'm sure that the war ongoing right now with Iran has led to an increase in their efforts into termination

1:53:26 to target a number of individuals with their cyber hacks and capabilities. So again, I'm unsurprised that the Iranians are engaged in such activities we've had to face it for the past 10 or 15 years in terms of what the Iranians have been able to do And given that the FBI director is a high profile target, it's again not surprising that the Iranians would do something like this. But again I have to underscore just how sophisticated the Iranians have become and their ability to do things like this He's not wrong about that. No, but Brennan is a dud I mean Is anyone watching Miz now? Have you seen any ratings Does that thing work It can't be good! I don't think so either They're going after... they're trying to buy the Vox podcast network Ooh That'll do it Well what i think is kind of fun about that Is we had Prof G Scott Galloway

1:54:30 touting with Karen Swisher, no we're gonna sell this show. They were in negotiations I think with Vox How do you sell a show like that? Well, they didn't. That was the whole point is this is hundreds This is kind of back at little bit after the Spotify days and Rogan like we're gonna be gonna be hundred millionaires from this show He was showing charts where he could make a billion dollars on advertising and he hired 35 people for the prof G experience for all of his podcasts And now they're getting wrapped up in a sale to

1:55:16 Gosh, who was it? Who was it that was going to buy this? Are they part of a network? Yeah. They're part of the Vox Media Network Oh I did not know that! Yeah yeah let me see... So you're gonna get nothing No of course not! And how can we even sell- We know what a podcast network is worth It's nothing Okay so Vox Media. Oh, this is it yeah so Vox media initially they had said okay we're putting it up for sale and then they said no no no we're not selling anything but then Versant comes along do you know what do remember the Versant? Yep that's the spin-off company

1:56:11 Bank that includes MS now and CNBC, and they want their the version to say we want to have at least 40% non-traditional content within the next two years that they're going to buy That's a dud. You can't you can't make money off of a podcast network Spotify put a billion dollars into it and failed Yeah, you know who didn't call us just for advice You know, the Curry Duvall Consulting Group. Yeah we you never get called for anything and I never get called for anything We're outliers with experience and good judgment but... And we're handsome!

1:57:00 Yes, and nobody cares. Nobody cares Well those who are last will be first the least will get the most that is what I've always understood And with that I want to thank you for your courage saying the morning to you The man who put the sea and cut down the middle say hello to my friend on the other end he's still alive mr.. John Well in the morning mr. Adam Curry also in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground feet in the air Subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there in the morning to the trolls That's better. 1806 today at the peak of our trollage, which is much better for a Sunday people... I think people thought you were dead and like well we're gonna give up who wants to hear Curry? Now what?! Give a crap about Curry! Oh he's back okay well might as well tune in again

1:57:53 Well, you're getting a product which we find to be quite an outstanding product from people who are not swayed by popular opinion and are not captured by an audience who tells them that they better be criticizing people more. We've identified this as... There's another guy besides the one you're talking about, some you know You're not critical enough. He should just be grousing about everything I mean he don't think I groused enough Okay? No but you have to be more of an activist That's what he said And the other one is activism Yeah activists Let's push some... People don't realize we Don't have an agenda in regards to pushing these things

1:58:39 We're not pushing, we don't push anything. But here's the problem and it is for some reason always focuses on me which I don't know maybe it's the right thing. You can't spell my name! Well no but when we analyze something that President Trump does then were licking his ass Because we say, well I think he's right. Oh you what? You're not critical! How many shekels did you get for that?! So when we're not... because we just don't agree with the narrative and there's pushback coming on all these podcasters people are getting tired of it

1:59:21 They're tired of it. They want just an actual opinion from somebody and not, yeah I bought in to be going on your podcast! You know even Joe Rogan's kind of falling for it now A little bit. Yeah, I mean he's... But he doesn't go on everybody's podcast No! These Mary-go-round podcasts You go on mine and then you go to yours And then his and then goes on mine and then I go in yours And around around they go Where do they stop? Nobody knows We're not part of any these cliques Oh man, I should have clipped that

2:00:06 Reverend Franklin Graham said podcasts are a problem. I gotta get that clip He was complaining about the boys you referring to oh The podcasts that are saying that Israel is bad and the Jews are to blame for everything Oh, yeah they do Yeah exactly And you know now Tucker is he's got his documentary and have got BB net in Yahoo! And this wife and they're horrible and corrupt which is probably true but who cares Like, okay. Maybe 15 minutes of discussion? Yeah who cares it's true Who cares Anyway the trolls are listening at noagendastream.com I will say and i've actually talked with you know Dave Jones my buddy who is this nicest calmest guy they call him the pod sage

2:01:00 And we do the, like a board meeting every Friday. We talk about Podcasting 2.0 and you know we have developers on it's audiences like 500 people it's not meant for any other consumption outside of what we're doing and out of that group comes new features like transcripts and chapters and all this stuff that you're seeing now the big boys are implementing which is the whole point. Podcasting had stagnated for decade We started up and things are working. Okay, so great." And even he is getting snark people just... It's older millennials maybe some Gen X there's something going on and then people feel like they can just lash out and say whatever they want to a podcaster You haven't noticed this because no one knows where to find you you're in hiding but it

2:02:02 There's something going, there is something in the air where people just they just want to say you suck. Yeah and yeah they would people want to say you suck that's pretty much it. You suck! So The Troll Room there's a lot of that but actually today has not been too bad Now, they are trolls so it's to be expected here obviously. NoAgendaStream.com and of course we have the modern podcast apps just talking about it one of the great features they have is live podcasts when you go live and your recording live the podcast app that you use to listen to your podcast whenever you feel like it will give you an alert so if you want to you can join in live and listen to it

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2:03:22 by definition a producer. So let me take a look here, we had episode 1854 Rackout was the title of that you really had oh we use the art which is kind of cool by Nessworks and he had a gas pump premium podcast only man it doesn't happen often that you get a lot of email about one topic that you don't expect Premium versus regular was the one. Did you get emails about this? I also have a mea culpa Oh, well let me explain first we were talking about the difference between premium and Regular so high octane lower octane and I asked I said well is this a scam Am i just paying for this stuff when they don't have to

2:04:16 And a lot of people said, oh yeah you're crazy if you unless you have a high-end high compression automobile there's no need for it. That was that I'm generalizing but that's kind of what i got back and Of course the tip of the day was always fill up your rental car with the lowest octane possible when you return it That to me was the tip of the day like ah obviously! That's what we gotta do there Well couple of things I'll defend the petroleum industry and say these things are all based on knock engines in your engine. If you want to use lower grade fuel and let your engine knock once in a while, okay good for you it's going to hurt that and damage the engine over time but um...I use premium fuel because they drive a Lexus old one 20 year old

2:05:09 But still. The second thing is, this was my fault I talked about the low sulfur diesel and i kind of conflated it with the stupid blend that we have in California for gasoline which is special to California and I said it's going to take over the whole country blah blah blah no! It's a federal low sulfur diesel as one of the producers pointed out The diesel's the diesel everywhere and it's really expensive. So that can be changed at a federal level, how come President Trump doesn't change this? What you gonna do? Just tell him to stop the get let the sulfur free!

2:05:47 No, I think they've gotten used to this blend. It's better... The high sulfur diesels make a mess! That's probably a better product Well we got the farm diesel here All the good old boys They put that farm diesel in their pickup trucks and they roll coal along the road You can always tell Like you got farm diesel So thanks to Nestworks for bringing us that artwork. There were a couple other things that we looked at, I think we can kind of move past the hospital art...I think John is no longer in the hospital You kind of liked Dan Obgyn4's slot machine Yeah i did it was an evergreen, might use it Possible Evergreen Scaramangas homemade missile on the surfboard was kinda cute

2:06:42 A lot of ship stuff. So I think Nessworks kind of nailed it, premium podcast only was good we liked it. You actually liked it a lot because you felt that it was not big AI effort? Well the Nessworks is not necessarily an AI effort type of guy so yeah I did like that thought that was good So we thank you for your courage, Nestworks. And we thank everybody who participates at noagendaartgenerator.com. It is time talent and treasure again the idea is you get value out of this show You like the analysis? You thought it was worthwhile? You'd like it to continue? You've got one man on his deathbed He's dialing in from his deathbed that might be valuable to have your show

2:25:32 It's your birthday, birthday. Oh so much anger. Also a short list on the birthdays but they are here Evan Mackey celebrates his birthday and let me see Layaway Night Sir Exiled Maniac I don't have any dates for these guys but i'll just take it as its their birthday so happy birthday from everybody here at The Best Podcast in the Universe! It's your birthday yeah. Toot toot toot toot toot Title changes, turning faces lately. Nice changes! Don't wanna be a douchebag... Well I'm very sorry Sir Nubbin, not sure exactly what went wrong but there was no malice intended so today you receive your long overdue and deserved title change you now become a baron

2:26:20 and we thank you for your courage, and for your support of the best podcast in the universe. So we do have one night it is a layaway night and I believe i have a note here this is from A Jackson Pollock And he will become Sir Exiled Maniac. He says, John Adam marches donation of 30... Oh this is a long time layaway! 3333 should leave me a penny short of knighthood so if you can spare a penny I'm do i have my pennies? Ever since I went to Linux I think I lost my pennies You know the Linux machine sucked up the pennies Do I have it? Nope I'm gonna look for it. IOU Yeah it'll be... IOU was right there you go

2:27:10 I think the ROI will be worth it. I've also sent an additional $33.33 this month in order to sponsor a douchebag Save A Podcaster! I hope this concept catches on. JCD's life and the show may depend on it. Please knight me, Sir Exiled Maniac Kennel Master of the Dutch Shepherds & Belgian Malinois... Malinois? Malinois?! You know who has malinois? Laura Logan. She got five of them I had one. Yeah, but these... These are the ones that bit Luke Coffey and he had to get plastic surgery on his face No that's not good No! She has five of them and they get out all the time And then on the street roaming around like They are Killers They can... I had when it was gentle But this dog Nothing could contain him He would get escape... He was a escape artist You know? One time we dropped him off at a kennel

2:28:04 And we said, uh... this dog will escape. And don't worry about it! We got secure facilities and so then we see the guy the next time and he says So I locked the dog up and i'm walking down the hall and I hear something clicking behind me The dog is walking right behind me They are escape artists Let me save that one. That was actually pretty funny, let me save that one So I need to read some of this note...I don't know if you saw this note but this is a hilarious note Okay he says so i've been having this recurring dream and starting to think it may have something to do with the best podcast in the universe It goes something like this Since the plandemic I've been down on my luck and financially strapped so we started directing gay porn movies out of my house

2:28:56 unbeknownst to my wife while she's at work. I'm working with my associate executive producer Dana Brunetti and our biggest star Eli the coffee guy we are discussing the next scene which involves Little John's candied beads and a gigawatt coffee enema followed up with good old-fashioned La Jolla salt rub and tug suddenly the front door flies open in my wife Linda Lou Duchess of Jobs and writer winning resumes unexpectedly comes home and cries out in horror Mr. Timothy what in the world What have you been shopping at? Bad idea supply again?" Then she starts yakking at me something about if I don't change my wicked ways, find Jesus and go to imagemakersinc.com that's Image Makers Inc with a K She is always repeating herself And get myself a winning resume that gets results and there is no doubt in her mind that I would end up working at Martel Hardware for the rest of my life About this time the alarm clock goes off from the radio I hear the spooky voice of washed-up VJ exclaiming

2:29:53 in the morning, followed by his geriatric handler sidekick bitching and moaning for three hours about low donations. What can all of this madness mean? When will this sigh up end? Four more years is what my conspiracy therapist keeps telling me but he says it may end a whole lot sooner unless all the douchebags in the universe donate at least once no matter the amount although 3333 is the magic number ball is in your court douchebags stay safe and donate That's a Jackson Pollock plus no agenda is a Picasso and that means that we need to ignite this guy So if you can grab that little tiny heart right here, that's beautiful. So Jason

2:30:34 Come on up here. He is the Exiled Maniac and you now officially will become Sir Exiled Maniac, Kennel Master of the Dutch Shepherds and Belgian Malinois! And for you we have as always Hookers & Blow, Rent Boys & Chardonnay We got Harlots & Howled Dolls, Red Huts & Ries Beers & Blunts, Cowgirls & Coffee Varnish Rubinettes & Women in Rose Gaches & Sake, Vodka & Vanilla Bonghits & Bourbon Sparkling Cider & Escorts Gin Jail & Gerbils Breast Milk and Pablum. And as always at the round table, especially for people who write funny notes like that we've got Mutton and Mead. You sir head over to noagenderrings.com and give us your ring size so we can send it off to you post haste they always come with a certificate of authenticity and a couple sticks of wax so you can add those to your gay porn movie

2:31:26 Dane and Brunetti will help you for sure. And welcome to the roundtable of the Noah Jenna Knights & Danes! NOAH JENNA BEAT'EM!!! Well, you heard it earlier. Collabs happen businessmen get together and all kinds of beautiful things take place connection is protection at the NOAgenda meetup these people will be your first responders in any emergency or in business venture for that matter and you can find them all at noagendameetups.com today there is a meetup and as its six o'clock the Northern Wake NOAGENDA counter North Sea Nexus planning committee meet up

2:32:01 And that'll be in North Carolina at Saints and Scholars, so make sure you check that out. Coming up this month though, this coming month April 4th Osaka Japan I know that's gonna be a good meetup we got a lot of people in Osaka Eagle on the 11th This is a big day for the Meetups Eagle Idaho Albany California sounds like John just might make it ladies get your hot sexy nurse outfits on for the photo op Lafayette, Louisiana and Fredericksburg Texas also on the 11th. I will be there with the keeper Pastor Jimmy coming a well we've got Matt long It's gonna be a hootenanny at the 16th Charlotte North Carolina the 18th Fordway in Indiana Franklin Tennessee always good meet up over there on the 18th Vancouver BC the most broke place in Canada But they'll be doing to meet up on the 19th April 25th Schaeffening in The Netherlands the 26th

2:32:48 Brighton in Michigan and Leipzig in Germany on April 30th. No Agenda Meetups, you will not regret going to these at least once in your life go to noagendameetups.com if you can't find one near you no worries all you gotta do is start one yourself it's easy and always guaranteed a party. NOAGENDAMEETUPS.COM! Alright, I got time for some ISOs here. You only have two? I see you've got two ISOs alright...I'll play mine first and we'll see how we do In the morning a very good show hosted by very good people That apparently was real

2:33:46 Although that well, maybe I'm wrong it came. I thought it came from the Sean Hannity show But I could be wrong in the morning a very good show hosted by very good people but I think it's AI here's another one as always fascinating Yeah, all right Hmm okay really yet to yes see ya see you catch later take it easy Okay, not bad And then impressive. That's impressive! I think I like Sia the best, that kind of... See ya! Catch you later! Take it easy! I think we should leave it with Sia Okay Alright we'll do that Hey everybody before we go anywhere It is time for John's Tip Of The Day Creative vibes for you and me Just a tip with JCD And sometimes Adam

2:34:44 Well, not being out and about. And the last tip we picked I've decided what obvious things should people have that would be a tip of the day? And I got another one. It's not on the list. I don't know why you haven't picked it before but everybody should have one of these A carbon monoxide monitor Oh yes! I actually have one You have one? Yes, for when I fly. I haven't used it in a while but yes i have one for in the cockpit Well, there's a lot of them. There are tons of them out there. The two I'll recommend is First Alert which is 23 bucks and then there's the Kitty K-I-T-T-E 27 bucks these are brands that are known and they're not expensive in this. They're valuable

2:35:42 protection that everyone should have, especially in and around the kitchen if you have gas appliances. Now are these just simple ones that beep or make a noise? Can you get them to connect to an app so your app will alert you? No but there's plenty that do it and you can look for those In planes we have a very cheap one which is a little disc And the disc changes color And then you know that there's a lot of carbon monoxide. Yeah, I'd rather have something beeping at me yeah and Excuse me i've had them go off like False positive and here's what the pilots do how do you feel? You feel okay? Yeah, you feel funny No, I feel good all right feel good. Are you sure okay? All right feel good all right That's your check

2:36:32 Because if you feel funny, then yeah, I mean we should feel funnier in trouble open the window like that If you want to find more of these tips today go to know agenda fund calm tip of the day dotnet And sometimes Created by Dana Brunetti. There it is, Dana Brunetti known for the gay porn apparently now in only a good shit give you grief for that Well hey he needs to do some kind of project might as well be in somebody's dreams End of show mixes MVP is back on and Molly Berry comes in Molly Bear did the order-of-the-heart end of show mix yep I am your slopperator playing those tunes for ya

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