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00:00 It's the same can. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, October 16th, 2025. This is your award-winning Give On Nation Media assassination episode 1808. This is no agenda. Reporting from the front lines and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where we're all saying the same thing, recycling's a scam. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning! Well, yeah, hello, 2000. Recycling's a scam. We've known this for 20 years. Longer.

00:41 Well, not so much in California. Oh no, you guys are all in still. I'm looking at garbage guys go by today on Thursday. And they're replacing all the green cans for recycling, not for recycling, but for green trimmings and stuff you put in the green can. So they're taking a green can and replacing it with exactly the same green can. Well, that seems like your tax dollars at work. Who has the garbage dollars at work? All up and down the street, it's the exact same can. They're taking the old ones, which are fairly new anyway, and they're replacing them with new ones. It's the same can. But that's what I'm saying. Now, isn't that Citi who does that for you? Or do you pay your garbage guys separately?

01:29 The garbage guys are separate. Oh really? We don't have cities to garbage. Well then you should pull them aside and have a little chat with them. I was gonna go down there but you know we're due during the show prepping. I was. I was gonna ask them what the hell's going on, what are you doing here? But then I got high. Why are you changing, swapping out a perfectly good can with another exactly the same can? Because that way it'll be reflected on your bill at the end of the month. That's obvious. Or at the end of the quarter. What do you pay for garbage? I don't know. You don't know? No, Mimi pays it. Oh. Yeah, I think we pay, I think we pay 30 bucks a month. Sounds similar. Yeah. Good guys though, because if I forget to put the garbage can out, I can just text him. Like, ah, I'll pick it up later. I'll come back, come back later. Pick it up on my way home. Or if I say, you know, I got some junk here. Yeah, okay. Wouldn't you want me to pick it up?

02:26 That's the kind of garbage guys I like. Oh, our garbage guys do the same thing, but I'm just not getting where they keep swapping out perfectly good cans for the exact same can. Well, it could be some kind of environmental regulation they have to adhere to. It's the same can! Gotcha! It's the same can you're irked. I got it. Well, I think you should have taken time. I would gladly start the show later just to hear you argued with the garbage guys replacing the old cans with new cans. Maybe I'll give them a call. You should feel free. That license should always be free and open to you to do that. You just let me know. So I went to the front lines yesterday, the front line being Austin, Texas. Oh, you went to Austin? Why? To get your hair done again? Yes, to get my hair done. But I also had coffee with a former New York banker.

03:23 Who I have not spoken to in quite a while. And I've got some updates. Did you ask him how's Goldman Sachs is doing? Oh crap, I forgot about that. Yeah, when's Goldman going belly up? Oh man, I can't believe I forgot that. Years ago. Still waiting. Yeah, well did you short Goldman? No. I'm glad you didn't. So, you know, these days he's all into AI investments. Yeah, I'm looking at different investments and in particular he's looking at financial AI investments. And I don't know if he actually invests in anything. He kind of looks like a hippie these days. He's got Jesus sandals on, he's unshaven, his hair is long in the back.

04:11 Yeah, it sounds like an investor to me. Exactly. It's like one of those, I'm a cool investor, you see, I'm a cool guy. And so he's talking, he's like talking about how this model understands how the fold protein work. I'm like, oh, OK. He wants some more coffee. But then he says, you know, these guys, most of them really don't have anything, but they have one thing. They have a buzzword. And of course I said, what's the buzzword? Can you guess what the buzzword is? Quantum. Yes! You nailed it! You nailed it! Quantum. He says, but they're not using quantum computers, they're doing quantum calculations with supercomputers. I'm like, okay. Yeah, okay. Right, right, right. Yeah, that makes sense. But then, and this kind of folds into the talk with my hair lady. He, so he is, let me see if I can say this without

05:15 revealing his identity. He does a lot for nonprofits and art stuff. Let's leave it at art stuff. And so he's helping some one of these art stuff things with their finances. I think a secretary or something. And because he's yes, he's a Democrat, but he's you know, he's not an idiot. Obviously, he still wants to talk to me. I'm sure he's getting as much information from me as I am from him. And he says that these people were all in a tizzy because they were trying to schedule their ice training. What is that supposed to mean? Literally training for what to do when ice comes.

06:04 to take away their brown people, I guess. Take away the paintings. No, but think about it. This is how insane it's gotten in Austin. They're training at art institutions just in case ice comes. The ludicrous part. To take away their brown people. Yeah, but this was only accentuated. So I'm sitting there with my hair lady, you know, You know, and we're catching up. I love listening to her. No, she's the one telling you about this? No, no, that was the former New York banker who told me about the ICE training. Yeah, okay, so you're with the hair lady now. Yeah, so I'm with the hair lady. And, you know, we talk, we do our usual like TV shows, what are you watching, you know, chit-chatting about the dogs and stuff. And she's from Syrian descent. I say, how about this?

06:54 So what's wrong? No, we can't talk politics. It's a politics. Have you seen what's happening? This is your homeland. There's like, there's shifts major. I got pulled aside the other day. So what happened? Well, you know, it was to be honest, I also said that I had watched the Charlie Kirk Memorial and I got pulled aside and they said, you know, because she rents a chair. Yeah, that's what you do. She says, well, you know, we're not so sure that you're right for us because we have a feeling you're turning MAGA.

07:31 I mean, this is... You're turning MAGA. You're turning MAGA. So get out! I mean, you combine that... Get away from our generalized acceptance of all people. Because we're so liberal, we're so progressive, we accept everybody, so get out! Yeah, but you see, this is the problem, is because of course we're laughing about this and we're calling them nuts and they're calling us nuts and I think We're prime now, we're prime in the United States in one of these cities, not Austin, probably Chicago. We're prime for some kind of incident to take place that's going to set a lot of people off and it's going to be messy. If you listen to the insane pushback

08:17 Because people have been so propagandized about ICE. Well, ICE is putting six-year-olds in zip ties, arresting people naked. Kidnapping, kidnapping. But I'm hearing this from all over my liberal friendscape. Yeah, that's what they've been told. They have been told this and they completely believe it based upon TikTok videos and Instagram reels and a guest stuff on X. I don't know. I haven't been on Blue Sky in a while. Nobody knows. Yeah, but it's you're laughing, but it's it's really it's I am laughing and I will continue to laugh. It's getting out of hand. Tonight, tensions rising as the Trump administration sweeping immigration crackdown expands. In the last 24 hours, federal agents clashing with residents in Chicago.

09:04 As some protesters threw objects, federal agents deployed tear gas on crowds, angry about the latest arrest that ended with a crash in their neighborhood. Illinois' governor, who's repeatedly said he did not ask for federal help, accusing immigration agents of using strong-arm tactics. They're the ones who are tossing tear gas when people are peacefully protesting. They need to back off. Homeland Security officials say it all began with agents chasing an undocumented migrant who they say had rammed a Border Patrol vehicle. Agents then crashing into the vehicle to stop it. New video shows that the chase then spilling over into a Walgreens where 19-year-old Warren King says he was shopping. He says when he tried to leave the store, he was tackled. He's a citizen!

09:48 He was just saying, why are you running? I'm telling them I'm a US citizen. I'm here. I'm legal. I'm born here. So they didn't try to hear none of that though. Community leaders today blasting federal agents. People of color are being racially profiled by these unjust actions. And today the Chicago woman who was shot by federal agents after allegedly ramming her car into their vehicle, today pleading not guilty to assault. Marimar Martinez seen in this video in the moments leading up to that alleged ramming. Prosecutors say she was part of a convoy tailing those agents.

10:28 David, in a sign of increasing tensions, LA officials are declaring a state of emergency, saying they will offer undocumented migrants financial and legal support as this deportation campaign expands. I got to hand it to them. For all their beliefs, they are completely all in, like ICE are Nazis. ICE are, they're criminal themselves, there's no background checks, these people are crooks, they're no good, they take great pleasure in hunting people down, and so what are they doing? They're using their cars, they're using all kinds of things to

11:04 Get in the way of what ice is doing and it's gonna turn ugly. It's so I've been Have we not been preconditioned for this with that stupid movie Civil War? I mean it seems like all of this is just Happening and now it's only in select cities near you, but man This is a tinderbox and now we're gonna have that no kings after it didn't work last time I'm gonna try no kings again on What is it Saturday? Yeah, it's coming Saturday. Yeah, I I tuned into their... What happened to Blackout, by the way? Well, no, Blackout... Supposed to shut the country down. Wasn't there supposed to be something else coming up too that was supposed to shut the country down? The crapped out? No, I think No Kings is supposed to be the big one. And I tuned into their live webcast. They got a pastor. They got all kinds of very big organizations now behind this. Democracy Forward.

12:00 Who have, they got a lot of money. One of the Walmart heirs that's putting a lot of money behind this. People should take note. Yeah. So I don't know. I don't feel good about it. My spidey sense is telling me no good. And then of course we have the worst, the worst Democrat ever. The worst one is John Fetterman. I'm the only Democrat in my family. I grew up in a conservative part of Pennsylvania. I grew up, and I I knew I know and I love people that voted for President Trump But they are not fascists. They're not Nazis They're not trying to destroy her the Constitution those things and that's part of another thing I refuse to call people Nazis or fascists what I would never compare anybody any

12:48 anybody to Hitler in those things. And now that kinds of extreme rhetoric is going to continue. We're going to be more likely in resulting in extreme kind of outcomes and political violence and doing all these kinds of things like Charlie Kirk. For me, all I could say is, is like, let people grieve. Give people the space. I'm not going to use that terrible thing and that pastic assassination to make my argument and try to put out my views. It's like, my God, you know, he's a father that had his neck blown out by a bullet. And now people have forgotten. President Trump was in my state, was shot in the head.

13:27 If that would have could you imagine where our nation would be if he was hit in the same way with Kirk? We really got to turn the temperature down and we can agree to disagree on these kinds of things, but right now Shutting down the government. I just can't take it that By the way, he wasn't eating Doritos. That was his stupid hoodie Roaming up against the microphone. Yeah, but Wow, he needs a bodyguard He's got to be careful with that crazy talk. He's just an atypical Democrat. Well, that's what an old Democrat used to be. I'm so amazed by this guy. We thought he was a moron. And all of his speech issues are all gone. Some people recover from strokes properly. Yeah, he did. It's unusual, but it does happen more often. But it's kind of telling when he had the stroke and he talked like an idiot. It's like, oh yeah, he's our guy.

14:27 Well, that's when the Democrats liked him. Now that he's normal, they don't like him so much. That's my point. That's my point. So yeah, this is interesting. We'll see. It's just, you know, false flags. It'd be easy to kick something off. What's a few people to take down the orange man? Because, you know, you're turning MAGA. Well, I feel bad about your hairdresser. Oh, me too. She loves that place. She doesn't want to leave there, but she can't. And funny enough, she says it's mainly because of conversations I have with you and the former New York banker, because he goes there as well. So she's having conversations with probably a conservative, more conservative liberal. And I guess I'm conservative. Christian. Woo. That's probably the problem right there.

15:22 And now she's a, you're turning MAGA. Your conversations are not appropriate for the workplace. Should've stabbed her. That's not a very nice thing to say. So, but talking about nice things to say, when you started off talking about AI, or not AI, but yeah, AI. I did brought me to Early it brought me to these clips. Did you hear Tucker? And I didn't say anything about AI what I say about it Yeah, you just making it up to get to your clips. Yeah, you did you talked about the banker investing in? Oh that okay. Oh, yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right in quantum. Yes I was talking about quantum man. I'm ahead of AI. I'm already where I'm skating where the puck is going. I

16:12 Did you hear Tucker with the guy that had a Chet GPT? Yeah, this came out a couple weeks ago, didn't it? I don't know when it came out, but I'm surprised he hasn't been sued over this. Yeah, oh, you're talking about the murder stuff? Yeah, yeah. I'm glad you got these clips because I didn't get them at the time. I thought you'd probably be annoyed by them. So why would I be annoyed? Because it's AI. I always like to document slander. Because it's AI. I don't know. I thought you wouldn't like it. I like AI. All right. Well, let's do these clips then. Let me set it up. What happened was Tucker had his

16:55 Altman's mom, not his mom, but Altman's, the guy who died in Altman's company. Yeah, he was on, she was on Tucker months ago. Yeah, she was on Tucker and she accused Altman of setting up a hit. I don't believe that's true, but it was a pretty good triggering mechanism for Tucker to accuse him of murder. In so many words, yes. In so many words, yeah, okay, he didn't and he backs off every time. No, I'm not accusing you of anything. However, he did die and he said you did it. There was a note and a candlestick in the other room.

17:36 Yeah, there's no note. That's one of the keys. Yeah, that's a bad sign. A bad sign of it being a suicide, because I guess, I don't know, is to 100% of the people that commit suicide leave a going away note? I don't know. A lot do. They seem to claim that. So I broke it up into four segments, and I thought it was actionable. And... Well, hold on a second. You thought it was actionable when I said that your son-in-law was a deadbeat. I mean, there's actionable and actionable. I had to... Yeah, I think that was actionable. I had to place a retraction. Yeah, you did. I wasn't getting sued for slander. Tucker does a kind of an on-the-fly retraction. He plays a game. He plays a game. He never laughed during the whole thing. Oh. And I'm surprised Altman

18:34 did the interview. What was the point? Are people that hard up for attention that they, especially a guy like Altman, that they'd go on Tucker after Knowing that this is gonna happen. Well, I think that Altman is so detached from reality that if someone says hey man There's a movement against you that he'll say okay. I'll take care of it I'll do an interview with Chuck or that could be that could be yeah Even though there's that's had no legs until he did the interview as far as I'm concerned. Yeah, I agree Here we go. This was like a friend of mine, this is like a guy that, not a close friend, but this is someone that worked at OpenAI for a very long time. I spent, I mean I was really shaken by this tragedy, I spent a lot of time trying to read everything I could, as I'm sure you and others did too, about what happened.

19:38 It looks like a suicide to me. Why does it look like a suicide? It was a gun he had purchased. It was the, this is like gruesome to talk about, but I read the whole medical record. Does it not look like one to you? No, he was definitely murdered, I think. There were signs of a struggle, of course, the surveillance came camera, the wires had been cut. Oh no! He just ordered take out food, come back from a vacation with his friends on Catalina Island. No indication at all that he was suicidal. No note and no behavior. He had just spoken to a family member on the phone. And then he's found dead with blood in multiple rooms. So that's impossible. Seems really obvious he was murdered. Have you talked to the authorities about it? I have not talked to the authorities about it. Okay, so now I remember what bothered me about the interview. First of all, I think this is, if I recall correctly, the only time you mentioned what the accusation was was right at the very beginning. And that's the most interesting piece. I'm sorry for this guy and his family.

20:36 But you're stealing stuff and not paying for it. That's the big one right there. And then he goes on to say, you know, I spent a lot of time reading about this. You have a chat GPT. You got chat GPT 7.0. Wouldn't you just let your AI tell you what's going on? That's funny. Just a thought. Stealing, yeah. This is a guy and he had documentation. He had a lot of documentation apparently about basically copyright theft. Yeah, well, I mean all the AI companies are doing copyright theft but it depends on what your definition of copyright theft is and how it's interpreted and whether and how fair use comes into play and and how much has been regurgitated. Well do we need to remind ourselves of the Microsoft guy?

21:30 Why don't you remind us? It was, here we go, the AI CEO Mustafa Suleyman. With respect to content that is already on the open web, the social contract of that content since the 90s has been that it is fair use. Anyone can copy it. recreate with it, reproduce with it. That has been freeware if you like. That's been the understanding. There's a separate category where a website or a publisher or a news organization had explicitly said do not scrape or crawl me for any other reason than indexing me so that other people can find that content. That's a gray area and I think that's going to work its way through the courts.

22:10 So, just as quick side note, it's not a gray area. It's called Creative Commons. I sued in court over it and was the first one to win a copyright lawsuit using Creative Commons. And all our stuff has Creative Commons in it. So, no. But that's the general... thinking in Silicon Valley. It's a contract, it's a social contract. No, his whole logic is wrong, including the copyright fair use thing. Yeah. If just because you post it, the way the copyright laws were rewritten some years, but then I think the era of the show, they were rewritten in such a way that you only had to put a copyright notice on anything. Oh, was that? Yeah. Automatically copyrighted. You write it, it's yours. Done.

22:55 We used to think you had to send it to yourself in a sealed envelope. Well, that or you had to send it to the Library of Congress, you had to register it, you had to put the copyright notice. No, none of that's true. And so, but if you're going to scrape everything, I mean, Google, for example, is the way before AI, they were taking, stealing entire web pages and putting them on their search database. And so the entire web was basically, Google had a copy of it. And then they would search that for your search results and then there would be excerpts. Or in the early days, you could actually go and take a look at their cache. Oh yeah, the cache. This is a copy of the... They don't have that anymore? They don't have the cache on Google?

23:47 I, you know, I'm always looking for it once in a while. I don't know what the status of the cash is anymore, but it's not like it used to be. Meanwhile, the guy who's actually a non-profit and is trying to do this for good with archive.org is getting sued to Kingdom Come. Yeah, he's being sued left and right, including being sued over his collection of 78s. Right now, archive.org has probably the biggest collection of 78 recordings, which are always, which is kind of all passed into the public domain. And for all kinds of different reasons, because the copy written material was always

24:26 I used to have a thing in the 30s where the songs could be played on the radio, but they were protected by a performance type. It was like instead of at copyright, it would be at performance. And there were performance rights that were owned by the record labels, and that's what these records constituted, were performances. And it's just a very gray area, and For years, it's always been assumed that these old 78s from the 20s and 30s were all, you could play them without having to worry about anything. And so he made a huge collection of them in somebody's, you know, some record company's got some hair up their ass about it. This is valuable! And it's not value, it's a joke. This is valuable! I mean, I love these old 78s, especially during the era, the dance band and jazz era of the early 30s.

25:22 When you go on archive.org because you know of a song and you go to pick it up and now all these songs are also quite popular You go there, and you look at it, and it's got you know Bing Crosby song from 1932 and it's and you look at it Yeah, it's a toe-tapper It would usually be a toe-tapper. And you would look at it and it would say, played twice. Oh, yeah, because when you played it, it would degrade the quality of the disc. Certainly those... No, no, no, I'm not... No, I'm talking about being played on archive.org. Oh, oh, huge copyright violation. Two people listened to it. Yeah, two people... two people downloaded or listened to it. And it was you doing a browser refresh, basically. Yeah, it was probably me, both times.

26:06 And so, no, many of these have been cleaned up by experts and some of them are remarkably nice. I mean, you can play them. The real collectors, I knew a couple of collectors, George Morrow of the Morrow Microcomputer was a collector of 78s. Jim Watt, a very famous DJ in the Bay Area was a collector of 78s and I knew these guys. And they would normally try to find pristine 78s that they'd find here and there, and they'd never play them, except once. Yeah, that's like my Prince picture disc. I won't play that either. Yeah, because it does degrade because of the needle. But once it's put into a digital form, then you can start messing with it and fixing it and making it sound even better.

26:53 But the point is that nobody's listening to this stuff, but he's getting sued over it anyway. Alright, back to the death case. Part two. And his mother claims he was murdered on your orders. Do you believe that? I'm asking you. You just said it, so... Hold on a second. Hold on a second. I just realized looking at the troll room, there's an entire generation that went over their head. So 78s, they're small records. No, no people don't know about 33 and a third rpm 45 rpm 78 rpm

27:33 Yeah, yeah, we just we just wait until we hit the troll room count. We just lost the half of the audience Meanwhile guys getting sued His mother claims he was murdered on your orders. Do you believe that? I mean I just said it so do you do you believe that I think that it is worth looking into and I don't I I mean if a guy comes out and accuses your company of committing crimes, I have no idea if that's true or not, of course, and then is found killed and there are signs of a struggle, I don't think it's worth dismissing it. I don't think we should say, well he killed himself when there's no evidence that the guy was depressed at all. I think, and if he was your friend, I would think you would want to speak to his mom or... I did offer, she didn't want to.

28:27 Do you feel that, you know, when people look at that and they're like, you know, it's possible that happened, do you feel that that reflects the worries they have about what's happening here? Like people are afraid that this is like... I've done too many interviews where I've been accused of like... I'm not accusing you at all. I'm just saying his mother says that. I don't think a fair read of the evidence suggests suicide at all. I just don't see that at all. And I also don't understand why the authorities, when there are signs of a struggle and blood in two rooms on a suicide, like how does that actually happen? I don't understand how the authorities could just kind of dismiss that as a suicide.

29:08 I think it's weird. This is how Tucker makes two hour long interviews. Yeah. Okay. Now I have to, my thinking on this is that a guy who steals a bunch of documents from a company he's working for, which is somewhat larcenous, even though it's to prove a crime, is probably getting himself into trouble in other areas. just by his nature. Which I think could account for his, and it probably was murdered, but not necessarily by the Altman's people, because Altman... No, you'd never want it tied back to you, I guess one of those... But why would you even care? It's just like, you're so cavalier anyway about stealing copyrighted material, and you heard the guy from Microsoft, that it's like, okay, well, yeah, okay, prove that we took some copyrighted material. Yeah, they could have

30:05 They could have discredited him, called him a thief, a liar, a cheat. Yeah, there's a lot of ways to go. A lot of things he could have done. But that's not Tucker's style, man. We gotta go for it. I think you killed him. I think you had him killed. I think you had him killed. You understand how this sounds like an accusation? Of course. And I mean, I certainly let me just be clear once again, not accusing you of any wrongdoing, but I think it's worth finding out what happened. And I don't understand why the city of San Francisco has refused to investigate it beyond just calling it a suicide. I mean, I think they looked into it a couple of times more than once, as I understand it. I saw that and I will totally say when I first heard about this, it sounded very suspicious. Yes.

30:48 And I know you have been involved in. Was mother reached out to the case and I, you know, I don't know anything about it. It's not my world. She just reached out cold. She reached out cold. Wow. And, uh, and I spoke to her at great length and it, and it scared the crap out of me. The kid was clearly killed by somebody. That was my conclusion. Objectively with no skin in the game. And you, after reading the latest report, yes. Stop it. Stop it. Cause I didn't catch this the first time. Why would it scare the crap out of him? That's a good question. A borderline great question, but it's a good question. I don't know why it would scare the crap out of him. But I think that Tucker just does that for effect. You know, he's so shocked. He's shocked by everything. Shocking. Yeah, that could be. It's Tucker. It's shocking. Look, I'm never getting invited on his podcast, so I might as well just say he's weird. She reached out cold. Wow. And I spoke to her at great length and it

31:52 And it scared the crap out of me. The kid was clearly killed by somebody. That was my conclusion, objectively, with no skin in the game. And you, after reading the latest report? Yes. Like, look, I immediately called a member of Congress from California, Ro Khanna, and said, this is crazy, you've got to look into this. And nothing ever happened. Do you do that, John? Do you immediately call your You're a member of Congress? I call him and nothing ever happens. It's the same thing. I'm on the same league. But I'm like, I'm talking about, I immediately called a member of Congress. Like, let me get on the speed dial. Let me call Ro Khanna. And I'm like, what is that? Again, I think this is, I feel strange and sad debating this and having to defend myself seems totally crazy. And you are a little bit accusing me. But this was like a wonderful person and a family that is clearly struggling. Yes.

32:39 I think you can totally take the point that you're just trying to get to the truth of what happened and I respect that. Silicon Valley, how many times we heard people talk like this yes basically saying F you Tucker that's Silicon Valley speak from I can totally see the point that you're coming at and I totally respect that which is Silicon Valley talk for F off I think he's memory and his family deserve to be treated with a level of respect and grief that I don't quite feel here I'm asking at the behest of his family

33:14 So I'm definitely showing them respect. Oh, yes. I'm here representing the family and Ro Khanna. And I'm not accusing you of any involvement in this at all. What I am saying is that the evidence does not suggest suicide. And for the authorities in your city to allied past that and ignore the evidence that any reasonable person would say adds up to a murder. I think it's very weird and it shakes the faith that one has in our system's ability to respond to the facts. Okay, so Tucker's going after conspiracy here because he believes that the city of San Francisco is in on it and doesn't want to rock the boat with the big Silicon Valley company and that's where he's coming from. I guess that's what he's trying to prove but is OpenAI even in San Francisco or is that that was in the peninsula? I don't know.

34:12 The peninsula. What is the peninsula? The peninsula is where everything is. It's not in San Francisco per se. No, it's San Mateo. Yeah, San Mateo. You just look it up? No, I used to go there all the time to visit a-holes like this. Sorry, Ray Lane. You were okay. Well, most of it's down further than San Mateo. Yeah, yeah. Sand Hill Road, baby. You get a Palo Alto, Palo Alto is pretty much the center. Yeah. All right. All right. So let's wrap it up with this guy. But this was still baffling to me why Tucker did this at all. So what is he like the white knight or trying to embarrass this guy? How about this?

34:57 He is committed to creating X amount of content for his advertisers. He has to, you know, and content is inventory, and he's always looking for something to do. How about that? Is that a crazy thought? I mean, he had Alex Jones on the other day for two and a half hours. He's desperate for content, and he likes talking to people, and most of the time it's entertaining. This I didn't think was one of them. But I understand where you're coming from with these clips, and I'm glad you got them. So what I was going to say is after the first set of information that came out, I was really like, man, this doesn't look like a suicide. I'm confused. Okay, okay, so I'm not reaching, I'm not being crazy here at all. Well, but then after the second thing came out in more detail, I was like, okay. What changed your mind? The second report on

35:49 the way the bullet entered him and the sort of person who had like followed the sort of likely path of things through the room. I assume you looked at this too. Yes, I did. And what about that didn't change your mind? It just didn't make any sense to me. Why would the security camera wires be cut? And how did... Cover up! He wind up bleeding in two rooms after shooting himself. And why was there a wig in the room that wasn't his? And has there ever been a suicide where there's no indication at all that the person was suicidal, he just ordered takeout food? Wait a minute, wait a minute. Could this be a trans thing going on here? What kind of wig? What was this with the wig? The wig is interesting.

36:29 And so he throws the wig in at the last second there, which he could have done at the beginning when he had his little laundry list. Yes. And the wig that wasn't his. This is Tucker doing T.C. Owen. You know, this is true crime. True crime really... Hey, Tucker, true crime really gets ratings, man. Oh, okay. Well, then I'll have the family on. I'll abuse them and then I'll go and I'll get into you with Altman and then I'll pin it on him and it'll be true crime. It'll get lots of clicks. You know, you might be as glib as you are about that commentary right there. You might be onto something. I listen to Tucker's podcast and it's interrupted frequently by ads.

37:09 It's very annoying. Most podcasts aren't. They're talking like, so you don't think that this was... Gold is the way to go, everybody! Have you seen the price of gold? It's over $4,000. No, instead, you just chop right in the middle. It's like, well, you know, I'm eating these fantastic chips. You know what they're made with? They're made with beef tallow and potato. And I have a garage full. They're great. Followed by, there's a new kind of dog food. It's not farmer's dog. No, I got the competition here. These guys are better than farmer's dog. Do you like nicotine? I love nicotine. I love these pouches. It's good for you. Nicotine is healthy. It's good. And I use it all the time. Can you tell? I mean, who orders DoorDash and then shoots himself? I mean, maybe.

38:02 I've covered a lot of crimes as a police reporter. Oh By the way people don't like it when we slam other podcasters just so you know they don't like it They're like man. You're shooting inside the tent man. Don't do that. I've heard of anything wait Yes, yes, it's true because I started doing this we do media deconstruction. Yeah, I I tried that. We consider podcasts part of the media landscape. Yes, I'm in agreement with you. I'm just letting you know when I started doing that because people were saying, hey man, who's booking? Well, you were kind of in that camp early on, I'd say about 15 years ago when I started doing some slams against certain podcasts, you kind of pushed back. We were building an industry, bro.

38:50 Okay, you got me there. And has there ever been a suicide where there's no indication at all that the person was suicidal who just ordered takeout food? I mean, who orders DoorDash and then shoots himself? I mean, maybe. I've covered a lot of crimes as a police reporter. I've never heard of anything like that. So no, I was even more confused. This is where it gets into I think a little bit painful just not the level of respect I'd hope to show to someone with this kind of mental illness. I get it. I totally get it. People do commit suicide without notes a lot. Like that happens. For sure. People definitely order food they like before they commit suicide. This is an incredible tragedy and I that's his family's view and they think it was a murder And that's why I'm asking the question if I were his family I am sure I would want answers, and I'm sure I would not be satisfied with really any I mean There's nothing that would comfort me in that you know right like yes, I get it right I also care a lot about Respect him Okay, all right your conclusion your takeaway from this series

39:58 Pretty much this is your conclusion which is Tucker's just filling his air but I think he's opening himself up for some action. Nah, from open AI? Nah. Maybe, maybe not but if I was this guy, if I was Altman I'd sue him. Nah. For innuendo. It makes him look like... He's got other things to do man. Have you been up and following the news? And I'd be collecting trillions of dollars? You know, maybe. Well, he's not collecting anything. He's spending it. Yeah. Have you, I'm sure you've heard the latest. He's enjoying life. This is the big news. Wow. Hey listen, he wakes up every morning, he looks in the mirror and he's Sam Altman, so I don't know if he's enjoying life. I'm not so sure. But the big news- He's probably got five hookers in the room. Well, the big news is this. ChadGBT will soon be able to write erotica for adults. This update was announced by OpenAI boss Sam Altman, who said users who verified their ages would be able to access a wider range of content. He said OpenAI

40:58 OpenAI, the creator of ChatGPT, had previously made the chatbot pretty restrictive, and that it was less useful slash enjoyable for users with no mental health problems, but new tools meant those restrictions could soon be relaxed. OpenAI was sued earlier this year by the parents of US teen Adam Rain, who took his own life. The lawsuit showed that Adam had discussed his suicidal thoughts with the chatbot. That was from the BBC.

41:39 So this is interesting because as we've identified it's the only product people actually want and will pay for like yeah I want a sexy chatbot Elon led the way with his Annie Annie yeah Annie and now Altman's going all in here's what he posted on X We made, uh, we made, uh, should I do it with Altman? It'd take me forever to do it like Altman. We made chat GPT pretty restrictive to make sure we were being careful with mental health issues. We realized this made it less useful and enjoyable to many users who had no mental health problems. Dude.

42:17 90% of people have mental health problems, but okay. But given the seriousness of this issue, we wanted to get this right. Now that we've been able to mitigate the serious mental health issues and have new tools, we are going to be able to safely relax the restrictions in most cases. In a few weeks we plan to put out a new version of ChatGPT, new version coming, upgrade, that allows people to have a personality that behaves more like what people liked about 4.0. We hope it will be better! If you want your ChatGPT to respond in a very human-like way, or use a ton of emoji, or act like a friend, ChatGPT should do it. But only if you want it, not because we are usage maxing.

43:02 This is a new term. In December, what is it? Usage maxing, which I think is code for making it addictive. I guess it is. It would make sense. In December, as we roll out age gating more fully and as a part of our treat adult users like adults principle, we will allow even more like erotica for verified adults. Erotica. Erotica. Something makes me itch. What a term, erotica. And this leads me to, actually I got a, it was a note from Sir Hoopin Socker.

43:44 And he says, first off, I'm not bothered. Okay, whenever I know the opening like that, I'm like, oh yeah, it's a giveaway. I'm not bothered by your and John's irritation with video podcasts. Well, hold on. I don't think we're irritated by video podcasts, are we? I watch them all the time. Yeah. We don't want to do one. Yeah, there's a big difference between being irritated by them and wanting to do one, which is that they're a pain in the ass and they don't really deliver the goods. Well, well, hold on a second because he says, and I respect your take as the creator, which I like what capital T capital C, but as a perspective, most of us are visual learners.

44:30 I can't even listen to audiobooks because my attention wanders after a few minutes and I have to rewind, whereas even if it's just two dorks sitting across a desk from each other, the visual component keeps me engaged. I listen to almost every No Agenda episode three times, and the only Rogan episode I've watched more than once are the Jordan Peterson episodes. They are idea-dense. I learn and remember better with the insipid video element. Now I replied to him, I said, hey man, I'm sorry, that sucks that all this video has disabled your learning ability. I didn't even say it like that. So that's what you meant. Yeah, I was nicer than that and he took offense to it of course. I said, I didn't mean any offense. You meant offense. Well, the reason why... You're an offensive guy in a very subtle way. No, I'm not!

45:25 But this leads me to a story from a great sub stack which is titled everything is television. Let's get back to what he was. I'm getting to it. I'm going to do a weave. OK. Well I'm going to go back. I'm weaving baby. Yes. We'll come right back to it. So this leads me to a sub stack that I was reading from Derek Thompson. Everything is television. And he cites and links to a filing by Meta in an antitrust case with the Federal Trade Commission.

46:03 about them being a social media monopoly. And there's a lot of other things happening. Age verification, all the app stores, because we have an app with Godcaster, all the app stores are now saying, hey, get ready, we're going to have an age verification API, there's all kinds of age verification stuff coming. I'm sure Meta doesn't like it. And here's what they filed. Only a small share of time spent on our social networking platform are truly social networking. That is, time spent checking in with friends and family. More than 80% of the time on Facebook and more than 90% of the time on Instagram is spent watching videos. So they literally say, today, this is the filing, only a fraction of time spent on meta services, 7% on Instagram,

46:53 and 17% of Facebook, involves consuming content from online friends. A majority of time spent on both apps is watching videos, increasingly short-form videos that are unconnected, i.e. not from a friend or followed account, and recommended by AI-powered algorithms Meta developed as a direct competitive response to TikTok's rise, which stalls Meta's growth. And when I read that, I'm like, well, this explains why we're all becoming idiots. We're just sitting there doomscrolling. We're not even using Facebook for Facebook anymore. It's just doomscrolling all day long. Yeah, yeah. We have a number of our top notch, well-known producers that seem to be doing this.

47:44 So, which brings me to a No Agenda classic book, Amusing Ourselves to Death by Neil Postman. Although he was writing about television, it's kind of interesting to go back and look what he wrote. He said, each medium, like language itself, makes possible a unique mode of discourse by providing a new orientation for thought, for expression, and for sensibility. Television speaks to us in a particular dialect. When everything turns into television, every form of communication starts to adopt television's values, immediacy, emotion, spectacle, and brevity. Now I would say

48:23 You know, that's on that's hyper speed now with these short form videos in the glow of a local news program or or outraged news feed. Now the viewer bathes in a vat of their own cortisol when everything is urgent. Nothing is truly important. Politics becomes theater. Science becomes storytelling. News becomes performance. The results, a society that forgets how to think in paragraphs and learns instead to think in scenes. And when I read that, re-read that, I thought, podcasting the way we do it is actually fantastic. It's good for you, it's healthy, it trains you to pay attention to something. You can actually do other things like walking outside. Gardening. Gardening, yes, thank you. You can do all kinds of watering the lawn, mowing the lawn, you know, just walking.

49:18 While you're listening to a podcast and yes your thoughts may wander a bit But you you'll have you'll be learning something and it's just it's a sad state when the whole world because look at the the MAU The monthly average users and the TAM of all of these social media sites including X I'm sure it's just all people scrolling videos from people. They don't even know or care to know and And now with Sora too, everything is like, oh, I don't even know if that's real. I don't care. My brain's fried. So to Sir HoopinSocker, I think it's a great opportunity to try. Try to just listen to no agenda.

50:01 And how many times people, you're missing the boat! No! All we'd have is people getting little clips, little clips of us, you know, two old dudes with cans and microphones. Oh look at those guys. Boy that guy's got a tick. Oh okay. What did they just say? Oh outrage! No. No, we can't share audio. No, I don't want you to share audio. It's good for you to just sit there and listen to something. Audiobooks are still pretty popular. So luckily, they're very popular. Luckily, there's a lot of people who drive your car while listening to them. Well, you can drive your car while listening to a podcast. Of course. Yeah. All this is good. So I was just thinking this is good. And then the news comes yesterday that Spotify and Netflix have now made a deal where Spotify video podcasts will now be streaming on Netflix.

50:58 Who wants that? He said, famously, okay, clip it everybody, because maybe this will be a huge success, but I don't see it. So these, like all of the Ringer podcasts, some of them I think are just Zoom calls, okay. They're taking them off YouTube, because of course, this is about YouTube being the boss, and they're going to now have them streaming on Netflix. I don't know. What do you think? I'm not going to watch it. No, I know you're not going to watch it. I was just wondering what you thought. I don't care for it. But you know, if they want to do it, it's more distribution is probably good for the for the podcaster. You want to call it a podcast or the video presentation. By the way, you have an invitation. I was on the Gold Guns and Goats podcast, which I think comes out tomorrow.

51:53 And I'm a big fan. Is it about gold? Gold, guns and goats. Actually, I've been listening. Is it about guns and goats? Yes. Do they talk about eating goats? No. What the hell did... Okay. So I've gotten a lot of my education on stablecoin from them. The North Sea Nexus stuff, they've been very helpful. What am I hearing? Oh, scam likely. And Tom Luongo, who's been around for a long time, he is a huge John C. Dvorak fan. Oh, good for him. And in fact, he's like, you know, when John started talking about pipelines, I'm like, dude, okay.

52:31 So that was you, wasn't it? Yes. I like to get credited for some of these things. I let you have it. I didn't say anything. I'm like, it's okay. Yeah, you would have sounded like a little baby. Yeah. Well, yes, exactly. I see. I'm not defensive. Maybe he set you up to do that. I don't think so. I don't know. Maybe he's one of those guys who is good at it. Anyway, I said that I would be more than happy to make the introduction. And I'd be glad to do the show. Sure. Because I think you'll, I think you'll really enjoy it. They get really deep in financial stuff and Yeah, I think you'll enjoy it. So, okay, I'll make that connection. Tom will be delighted. Big Dvorak fan. Like, why am I even on this podcast? You want John, you don't want me. It was obvious.

53:16 Uh, then... I'm sorry? You didn't do the weave. You didn't go back to the point I'm trying to make earlier that you interrupted me, said you're gonna do the weave and now you're off to something new. I just can't... You suck at it. Well, weave me back. Weave me back. Weave me back. Where are we going? You don't remember what it was. Yeah, I do. Okay. It was that guy who was bitching and moaning to you in the letter. Yeah, and we went into the whole thing. I did the whole thing about the video. You didn't come back to it because I had stuff to say about the letter. That was the point of the weave. I'm sorry. You didn't execute. The weave that I screwed up on the weave with a bad stitch for a podcast invite for you. I'm sorry. Well, here's what, okay, well that's fine and dandy, but here's the point I was going to make about this guy and his complaint.

54:04 He said in his letter that he has to listen to the podcast three times. What more do you want? I mean, this is like if you gotta listen three times, that means you're listening three times. That's nine hours of listening because our material must be so good that you feel obliged to listen to it three whole times. Are you kidding me? We've had other people say, you guys suck. I had to listen to your podcast three times. It's just that it seems like he's missing the point. The podcast is so good that you can listen to it three times. I always wonder if people really do that when they say that. I have my... It's a lot of time. It's a whole day. It's a day's work. I mean, where does he have time to watch a video podcast? He's listening to 18 hours a week of our show.

54:58 Yeah, well I agree it's probably bullcrap. But, uh... Anyway. He did say it. But my point was... And by the way, another point I was gonna make in the weave was that one of the things that we both, you and I both have noticed doing it audio only is that you become attuned and I think you prove this really to an extreme probably about six months ago when you played a Gavin Newsom clip where Newsom's wiggling his shoulders and he's moving his hands all around and you don't really hear him. Yeah, well when you just what did I pick up? I don't remember what I picked up It was something that he was saying that it was not it was it was covered up by all his gyrations he's always wiggling around like he's got the ants in his pants and He and it when you just listen it which is one of the reasons that we've talked about this on the show before

55:51 when we listen and produce these audio clips. Yeah, we catch a lot that we hadn't even caught when we were clipping it in the first place. You don't catch stuff if you're looking. And in fact, I remember like 10 years ago, I used to do all these clips from TV shows. And it was like, I think they were called bad acting or something. Here's the troll room. Yeah, but with video we can see that Newsom's a fag. Okay, well, there's that. There's that. Yeah, well there is that, but the point is, the point is, is that you get when somebody says something, you don't need to be distracted by their magician act where they're moving this and that. They're doing, they're trying to distract from what they're actually saying. The distraction. Yeah, it's true. So it's, it's denser in content to do it without the video is just this, it's kind of cool if you want to be on TV. Right.

56:51 Right which neither of us have any aspirations for at this point in our lives. No, I'm too old. Yeah I'm too old now to don't you see you could still do it dude. You sit in that barber chair Why do barbers always have the worst mirrors ever? It's just like old and decrepit and like is that really me that's because you're using mercury for the Reflective material instead of silver. It's does that mean it's more accurate. No, it means it's more accurate It's higher in the blue range and it's more like daylight than soft light. Oh, this is something I never knew. It's the Kelvin that is retransmitted back to you is too high. The numbers are too high. No, well, I appreciate that. This is something I'd never thought of, never knew. I like it. I like it.

57:39 Because old-fashioned mirrors are all silver. And so the Calvin, reflected Calvin, is gonna be in the probably the 3, to 2,500 to 4,000 range as opposed to mercury. I'm gonna say to my hair lady, I'm gonna say, if you're still here, what's the Calvin of your mirror? I wanna know. I don't know how you'd measure the Calvin of a mirror, but I think you could do it. Somebody out there knows how to do this stuff. But I am familiar with the Calvin range. Yes, I can tell. I like it. You're very familiar with it. One more chat GPT clip just because it came in this morning. Retail giant Walmart has announced a partnership with chat GPT allowing customers to purchase products directly through the AI chat platform. The collaboration marks a significant step in the growing integration of artificial intelligence into everyday life.

58:26 Since the emergence of consumer-facing AI, analysts have long speculated about its potential to disrupt traditional business models and daily routines. With this partnership, AI appears to be transitioning from a helpful novelty to a fully embedded part of commerce and lifestyle. As part of the deal, Walmart will reportedly share shopper data with ChatGPT's parent company in exchange for integration on the platform. Given Walmart's vast retail footprint, such data is among its most valuable assets, typically closely guarded. The company's willingness to share this information underscores the strategic importance it places on AI's role in shaping the future of retail. I think it's a mistake. This is crazy. It's a huge mistake. You can't do that. Given the way that that's probably some valuable material in there that the AI machines can figure out and it's going to hurt Walmart. Well, I guess. What kind of stupid deal was that that Walmart made? The lady is running democracy forward. No kings.

59:24 I don't know. I mean, I guess they're thinking that it'll increase sales because it's a recommendation engine or I don't know. This reminds me of Dick Brass. Oh, the old Dick Brass story. Dick Brass was this entrepreneur. I haven't seen him for years. He used to work for Microsoft for a while, but before he did that, in the very early days of computing, he went to Random House and did a sweet deal to get digital rights to the, the first guy who got digital rights to a book, it was like in the, probably the early 80s, maybe the late 70s. And he went and got these digital rights to Random House's thesaurus and dictionary. And he remembers the meeting, because I knew him enough that he talked about the meeting, he said, oh yeah, sure, you can have them.

1:00:21 I mean, they're no good. Digital rights don't mean anything. We're a book company. We print. Like MTV saying, you can have the internet domain name. We've got the AOL keyword. Who cares? Go for it. Yes, which is something you love to harp on, which is, but it's a classic example of this kind of stupidity or lack of forward thinking. Yeah. As opposed to stupidity, which is slightly different. But so, so you got and they, as time went on within four or five years when all the digital rights thing became a big deal and they were worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, they were whining and moaning and groaning. They had to buy it back from him for a fortune. I tried to buy, what was that? What was that service where you put the CD into your drive and then it went on the internet and he looked it up and then it would help you burn the CD?

1:01:14 What was that called? But there was a number of things that would go on the internet and organize stuff for you and also normalize the sound. And it would also tell you what the song name was and the artist. Yeah, yeah, that's what it was. Yeah, that operation was out of Emeryville. I can almost think of the name of it. Because I called the guy, I spoke to him, and he said, oh man, we just sold it to somebody else for like CD database. Yeah, CDDB. I'm like, I want to buy that for you because I had $50,000 at this is like, you know, public company days. Like, I want to buy this. I see a future. And I think CDB, their database later sold for a lot of money to Pandora or somebody like that because what they had done is they had the catalog. And I saw that as incredibly valuable.

1:02:02 Yeah, you were ahead of your time. Actually, that gets you behind your time. Yes, I'm usually 10 years ahead. By a couple of weeks, you were short there. Missed it, missed it. But then again, I did invest in Ask Jeeve, so that was a good one. Yeah, that was a good one. It allowed you to get into the helicopter business and go broke. Fabulous idea. Hey, hey, I had a lot of fun. I can tell you that. I had a lot of fun. You can fly a chopper. I can't do that. Literally burning money in the sky. So, of course, we had the big peace deal, phase one, which was very interesting to watch. I'm just sitting there like, our president, he's nuts, but he's doing very interesting things. He called up Miriam Adelson. Did you see that? I forgot to clip it. No, I did not see that. I didn't know he called Miriam Adelson. Oh yeah, he called her out. Let's see, maybe I have it here.

1:03:01 Because people are going nuts over this. This guy's insane! I can't believe he's doing this! Hold on a second. What did he do? I wanna play it for you so that you can enjoy it. You know the only or he's here it is here. Yeah, okay promises from many other American presidents You know that they kept promising I never understood it until I got there They there was a lot of pressure put on the unit was put on me too But I didn't yield to the pressure but every president for decades recognized the camera Here we go that right Miriam. Yeah, he's pointing at her now. Is it that right Miriam?

1:03:59 Look at Miriam, she's back there. Stand up, you know. Stand up. And she looks like a kook. Her hair is all crazy, like her hair dryer exploded. Here he goes. Miriam and Sheldon would come into the office. They'd call me. I think they had more trips to the White House than anybody else, I could think of. Look at her sitting there so innocently. She's got 60 billion in the bank. 60 billion. And she loves, and she loves, I think she's saying no more. And she loves Israel, but she loves it and they would come in and her husband was a very aggressive man, but I loved him. He was a very aggressive, very supportive of me. And he'd call up, can I come over and see you?

1:04:48 I say, Sheldon, I'm the president of the United States. It doesn't work that way. He'd come in. But they were very responsible for so much, including getting me thinking about Golan Heights, which is probably one of the greatest things to ever happen. Here's the money shot. Miriam, stand up, please. She really is. I mean, she loves this country.

1:05:32 She loves this country. Her and her husband are so incredible. We miss him so dearly. But I actually asked her, I'm going to get her in trouble with this, but I actually asked her once, I said, so Miriam, I know you love Israel. What do you love more? The United States or Israel? She refused to answer. That means, that might mean Israel, I must say. So people go nuts over this. He's admitting, he's admitting it. He's controlled by Israel. Get that? Of course not. In fact, it's the most transparent I've ever seen a president be. Like, I got a hundred million dollars. He didn't say a hundred million dollars, but very supportive of me. And then they gave me some thoughts about the Golan Heights and I think they love Israel more than America. Like, okay. That was, oh, that set people off. I don't know why it would set anybody off. I'm just saying. I don't understand it either.

1:06:30 Anyway, so that was a little moment there. Then he goes to Egypt and man, everybody, except Iran, everybody was there. All the bigwigs, they're all like, you're great. The Pakistan prime minister, he's like, without you millions of people would have been dead between us and India. Thank you for stopping that. Everyone's just loving him and loving him and loving him. So it's just the best. You got Giorgio Moloni smiling at him from behind. He turns around and he says, I get in trouble for this as a politician, but you're beautiful. You're just beautiful. So he's doing this whole rap and he's going down the list alphabetically.

1:07:06 And Jeremy Kyle, he's on Sky News in the UK. I think he had a talk show, maybe still has a talk show, a morning talk show. And he was doing a voice, I guess the way they, you know how they used to do the Eurovision song contest and the Brits are always making fun of it? Sir Terry Wogan was great at that and always laughing there because they always came in last and they always be laughing about it. So Jeremy Kyle is doing a version of that and for 15 minutes, and it's only on YouTube, I guess they were showing the straight video of Trump on television.

1:07:46 But on YouTube, they have his commentary, which he's making as he's watching it, which I think is an interesting thing to do. And they're playing, he and his co-hosts are playing it just like it's the Eurovision Song Contest because Keir Starmer, the Prime Minister, is standing there and like the Cheshire Cat, and they're like, oh, he's last, oh, he's been waiting 15 minutes. I'll just play this one minute where it came to it. And UAE, which is great. United Kingdom. Where's the United Kingdom? Behind you. Oh, I'm here. Oh, there you are. Oh, the stick is coming forward.

1:08:31 20 20 minute notice. He's come up to speak and from the 71 way. And so many others. It's such a compliment to what we're doing because what we've done is something very unique and very special. So it's perhaps the wealthiest and most powerful. Right, cut him now, cut that, just stop Trump now. I had to wait for that people, honestly can you please cut that. He waited 15 minutes, Keir Starmer, to be mentioned and Trump stood right behind Trump and he goes where is he? So he turns around and Starmer walks to the lectern and Trump looks at him and sort of go away. Starmer looks now as if somebody's put something very disgusting under his nose.

1:09:14 It was great. He totally cockblocked him. Like, nah, you're not gonna talk. You're not gonna say anything. And the main reason is, of course, that Britain and France went to this whole two-state solution thing and we recognized Palestine as a state. And here's what Rubio thought of that. Have you noticed that the talks with Hamas fell apart on the day Macron made the unilateral decision that he's going to recognize a Palestinian state? And then you have other people come forward, other countries say, well, if there's not a ceasefire by September, we're going to recognize the Palestinian state. Well, if I'm Hamas, I basically conclude, let's not do a ceasefire because we can be rewarded and we can claim it as a victory. So those messages, while largely symbolic in their minds, actually have made it harder to get peace and harder to achieve a deal with Hamas. They feel emboldened. Now, not to be outdone, as the Brits, of course, have been.

1:08:31 20 20 minute notice. He's come up to speak and from the 71 way. And so many others. It's such a compliment to what we're doing because what we've done is something very unique and very special. So it's perhaps the wealthiest and most powerful. Right, cut him now, cut that, just stop Trump now. I had to wait for that people, honestly can you please cut that. He waited 15 minutes, Keir Starmer, to be mentioned and Trump stood right behind Trump and he goes where is he? So he turns around and Starmer walks to the lectern and Trump looks at him and sort of go away. Starmer looks now as if somebody's put something very disgusting under his nose.

1:09:14 It was great. He totally cockblocked him. Like, nah, you're not gonna talk. You're not gonna say anything. And the main reason is, of course, that Britain and France went to this whole two-state solution thing and we recognized Palestine as a state. And here's what Rubio thought of that. Have you noticed that the talks with Hamas fell apart on the day Macron made the unilateral decision that he's going to recognize a Palestinian state? And then you have other people come forward, other countries say, well, if there's not a ceasefire by September, we're going to recognize the Palestinian state. Well, if I'm Hamas, I basically conclude, let's not do a ceasefire because we can be rewarded and we can claim it as a victory. So those messages, while largely symbolic in their minds, actually have made it harder to get peace and harder to achieve a deal with Hamas. They feel emboldened. Now, not to be outdone, as the Brits, of course, have been.

1:10:05 totally shunned. They never wanted this to happen. They love this strife in the Middle East, the North Sea Nexus. The Secretary of Education, Bridget Philipson, comes out, goes on Sky News and said, oh no, we actually did this. We recognise that Trump has taken all the honour here, but we actually did this. We have played a key role behind the scenes in shaping this. It's right that we do so because it's in all of our interests, including our own national interest, that we move to a lasting peace in the region. But when you say behind the scenes, like what? I mean, it seems to everybody else in the world that this has been done by Trump and the Israelis and Hamas. What part did we play? These are complex matters of diplomacy that we are involved in, but we do welcome and recognise the critical role that the American government played in moving us to this point. What matters now, of course, is how we move beyond this immediate

1:10:59 end to the war, moving towards that lasting peace that we all want to see. And that is why we've recognised a Palestinian state, but why alongside that we're committed to making sure that a safe and secure Israel endures. The reason I ask this is because, as you say, we recognise a Palestinian state. Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, said that actually made it more difficult to land the deal. What's really going on here? Was that some sort of clever strategic double bluff? The Americans say we made it more difficult. You're saying that we played this creep art. What's true?

1:11:38 Well, we believed as a government that it was the right thing to do to recognise the Palestinian state because of the way in which the conflict had developed over the last two years. That if that hadn't happened, we would be in a position where there would no longer be that viable option of a Palestinian state. But the Israelis were furious with us, the Americans said that we actually hampered the deal. What was the positive role that we played? It was the right thing to do and we will always act as a government in that manner. I do obviously understand that not everyone agrees with that decision, but given the scale of the conflict and what needed to happen, we felt it was the right thing to do to recognise that Palestinian state. But I should also just emphasise that the reason this phase of the conflict has begun

1:12:21 was following the appalling events, the appalling atrocities of the 7th of October and as we over the course of the next 24 hours what we all want to see are as many hostages as possible released home to their families that was brought home. Yeah, blah blah blah. And then we've got, you know, Anthony Blinken also took credit. Yes, the New York Times did a big article, the lost chances to reach a hostage deal and ceasefire months ago because, you know, they had it all teed up. All Trump had to do is just make it happen. And because he prolonged the war with his antics, lots of Palestinians were killed. It's amazing these people.

1:13:04 It's truly amazing. New York Times. Yeah, it's pretty pathetic. Yeah. So anyway, I think the best quote was on... He was yelling at the BBC people on the plane. He's like, I think he's onto this. It's North Sea Nexus. He's like, nah, nah, these guys are no good. And then Doocy comes out with a question which was a pretty funny answer. You had talked a couple weeks ago, you were doing an interview and you talked about how you hope to end the war in Ukraine because it might help you get into heaven. How does this help? Does this help?

1:13:44 I don't think there's anything gonna get me in heaven. Okay, I think I'm not maybe heaven bound. I may be in heaven right now as we fly in Air Force One. I'm not sure I'm gonna be able to make heaven. But I've made life a lot better for a lot of people. And as an example, had the election of 2020 not been rigged, you would have millions of people living just in Russia, Ukraine alone. That would have never happened and it didn't happen for four years. And I knew Putin very well, it was the apple of his eye that all the things I've said would have never happened. We had an incompetent administration, we had an incompetent president, and because of a crooked election, millions of people are dead. There you go, I'm not going to heaven.

1:14:31 You know, when he said that, because he's been talking about this for some reason, I'm surprised that the lefties haven't picked up on it as an admission to Epstein. Oh, that's a good one. Yeah, and not one guy has picked, nobody's picked up. It's too late. I think the timing's off now. You can't do it. But it seems to me that's the first thing I'd say, oh, they're going to go after him here because this is now he's admitting, he's just admitted that he was an Epstein pedophile. That's a good one. No, but no, they're just too, they're too dumb. Yes. They're too wrapped up in trying to give the credit to Biden.

1:15:16 I have a clip, this is interesting Gaza, this is kind of a, this is like at the end of a, I think, a NPR discussion about Gaza. And this is just talking about who's going to be policing the place and all the rest of it. And I thought it was a good way to wrap. currently where we stand on Gaza. Oh here we go. The vacuum? Is that it? The vacuum. Yeah. Who is going to fill this vacuum if no one... Whoa, hold on a second. What's this? You've got... you're out of... out of sync man. No. Yeah, you got... hold on, let me monowize you. Hold on. Huh. Okay. Here, let's try that again.

1:15:57 Who is going to fill this vacuum if no one's in control? Well, the ceasefire calls for a committee of Palestinian technocrats to run Gaza on an interim basis. Egypt's foreign minister says there is now a list of 15 people and he says the names have been approved by Hamas and Israel. However, the names haven't been announced and it's not clear when they'll take over or how much authority they'll have to take care of things like health care, education, water, electricity, coordination with aid groups. And Alyssa, as you know, the needs are staggering and this committee certainly won't have many resources to work with. Would they be in charge of Gaza's security?

1:16:37 So it seems to likely play a role, though we really don't have any clarity. Right now, the Hamas civilian police, armed with guns, have returned to the streets. And these Hamas policemen have been in deadly shootouts already with some Palestinian clans, which are essentially armed gangs. So the security situation is very volatile. Now, Egypt says it's training about 5,000 new Palestinian policemen for Gaza. This training has been taking place in recent weeks in Egypt. It's not clear when these new policemen might come to Gaza and if Hamas will accept this new authority. Yeah, well, of course, it behooves no one for this to actually stick or improve. Not in the media, for sure. We want this to fail.

1:17:26 Yeah, they want it to fail worse, and I'm sure there's rough waters ahead. There's no doubt about it You know you got you got Hamas executing people on the street. They made a big deal out of that Yeah, and they also made a big deal out out of it being 33. Oh, I didn't hear that part I did Did you get no I didn't get it, but I figured oh Yeah, it's just you know, it's just another 33. Well, here's the here's the CNN report In the middle of a public square in Gaza City eight bound and blindfolded men are dragged out and forced to kneel One by one armed Hamas militants take up their positions behind them very graphic this aiming rifles at their heads before opening fire I

1:18:18 All eight men fall to the ground, executed. This is part of the grim reality of post-ceasefire Gaza, as Hamas forces say they are carrying out a, quote, comprehensive security operation to root out those they accuse of collaborating with Israel. With these bodies, Hamas also reestablishing the element of fear it has used to rule Gaza for years, as it looks to reassert its dominance over a decimated Gaza Strip. Amid its ceasefire with Israel, Hamas is now putting on a show of force in Gaza's streets, attacking other armed groups, from gangs backed by Israel to powerful clans that have a history of clashing with Hamas.

1:19:02 The Dormus clan which denies collaborating with Israel has accused Hamas of killing nearly 30 members of its family in the last 33 US Central Command which is monitoring the ceasefire Urging Hamas to immediately suspend violence and shooting at innocent Palestinian civilians in Gaza. Yeah And of course now the question is what will we protest? Well, we got the no kings. I have a little clip on the no kings. We're just protesting not having a king. Okay, let's do that. If you have noticed, the news cycle over the last week has been even worse than before. It just seems to be escalating. And I truly believe it's partly because they're seeing how many marches are being organized all around the country and around the world on October 18th.

1:19:54 They are lashing out in fear because they see all the opposition from people. The fact that they cannot gaslight the world into thinking, into believing that Portland is a war zone on fire because there are now dancing frogs, dancing unicorns, dancing eagles outside the ICE facility. And even the Oregon National Guard is there to protect the peaceful protesters and not the ICE agents. Says a lot.

1:20:34 They are lashing out because they're not getting what they want. They are terrified because there are more of us than there are of them. And more people are waking up and saying that they are against this regime. So this week, try to find something that brings you calm, recharges your energy, because we need all of our voices together on October 18th, No King's Day. Okay, so this is obviously a Marxist move by the Socialist Workers Party and whatever else. World's Workers Party. World's Workers Party. When you say regime, you're a comrade, wouldn't you say? Yeah, I would say so. Yeah, regime is a code word. Yeah, but this is what I'm somewhat concerned about. They are really going nuts in these cities.

1:21:31 Well, I'm not seeing it that bit. No, I don't think it's that bad. I think they're humiliating themselves. Yeah, well, we'll see. They can be violent. We saw it with BLM. Well, yeah, but that's always been true. We saw it with BLM. Let's play this clip. This is the one TikTok clip that I have on here, which is talk. I think it's lefty Gaza Trump clip. No, I will not be celebrating that Donald Trump ended the war in Gaza because he didn't if anybody deserves to be recognized and praised for their efforts in ending this conflict which is still not entirely ended it is the people of Palestine the people of Palestine have relentlessly fought for decades for liberation to still not entirely have it so no I will not be praising Donald Trump or his administration for ending the war ending this ending the conflict and

1:22:22 getting the ceasefire deal because it wasn't him. It was not Donald Trump that did this. It was the perseverance and the persistence of the Palestinian people that got us to where we are, that got them to where they are. It is their efforts, their loss, their pain, their struggles that have got them to this point. So no, I will not be acknowledging or giving any type of credit to Donald Trump and his administration because they don't deserve it. The people who deserve credit and love and support are those of Palestine, those who have truly fought for liberation, those who have truly fought for their families, their people.

1:23:08 Not Donald Trump. Oh brother. Look at me. Look at me. Look at me. I'm taking a stand. Look at me. Look at me. Look at me on Tik Tok. Look at me. Oh yeah. I'm taking a stand. Why are you producing it? Why are you taking a clip and then putting a musical bed under it? Because I'm, look at me. Martin Scorsese. I mean, what do you think you are? I'm producing. I'm a producer, man. I'm a creator. I'm a creator. I create what I do. And when I create, I create against the orange man. I create. That's what I'm doing. Haven't you heard of social media? Haven't you heard of short form video? Everyone's loving it. It's where it's at, man. You dinosaur. What are you thinking? Lincoln? Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, there's a new, uh, you know, there's there we played the old JD Vance, the original retardo clip. Yes. Well, he's got a new one.

1:24:05 Is this something he's making and posting or is this just someone? I really don't think he's making these. Okay. To my illegal alien amigos in the city of El Chicago, please go back to your casita. El Governor Pritzker es mucho retardo. He can't protecto you. If you stay in El Chicago, you will be arrestado and deporto back to your shitholeo. Gracias amigos. Oh, and when you come back legally, make sure you elvoto for LJD Vanso. Muchas gracias. Long live Sora too. It'll be short-lived, but we'll enjoy it while it's here for sure. So then, although I think the only person really doing a lot with this is Jesse Waters, but you know, I tried to clip him. He did like 10 minutes on this. Well, the problem with clipping Jesse, because I've done it on the show,

1:25:00 is that he does too many asides. He tries to be personable when he does his bits, so instead of just doing a straight up presentation, he wanders. Just enough that you have to keep clipping it out. It's very annoying to edit him. Not doable, so instead I have a... But it is doable, it's just a pain in the ass. So Tulsi Gabbard, she is buckling down, bearing down and calling it out as a traitorous conspiracy. The seriousness of, again, the implications and the consequences

1:25:40 of these actions that were taken demand accountability. The American people not only deserve the truth and accountability, when we look at the future of our country as a democratic republic and the American people's ability to have faith that when they go and cast a vote at the ballot box, that the will of the people will be respected by those in government, whether they be Democrats or Republicans, This is literally what is at stake here. So we are referring all of our documents to the Department of Justice for the purpose of accountability and action. No one, no matter who they are, no matter how high up they are or how powerful they may be, no matter who the intelligence

1:26:22 officials or professionals were who were a part of this treasonous conspiracy, there must be accountability. The truth must be shown to the American people in order to ensure that there is this faith and trust and integrity in our democratic republic for the sake of the future of our country. I'm not a lawyer. We're referring all of this to the Department of Justice. I know that Attorney General Pam Bondi is committed to bringing about justice to those who have broken the law. And in this case, again, what these documents detail to me and my view cannot be explained as anything but a treasonous conspiracy.

1:27:01 This is this is not so different from what we saw under George W Bush when we saw that manufactured intelligence claiming there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq that kicked off a war that changed our... But now that I'm hearing this, thank you for reminding me that when we listen to things instead of watching them we catch more. When she brings up the the treasonous conspiracy of George W Bush, the analog there is Britain. The analog is all over the place. Because it was the Brits who were who also were pushing Weapons of mass destruction the Brits the Brits the Brits and the same thing here steal the Brits mi6 urge W Bush when we saw that manufactured intelligence claiming there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq that kicked off a war that changed our country that changed the lives of so many people like myself who went and served in those wars and

1:28:00 The implications of manufactured intelligence are real. I would even say that what we are seeing here has an even greater impact than what we've seen in the past because it speaks again to the foundation of our Constitution and our democratic republic, which is why accountability is so critical. I don't like for some reason, why does it grate me when she says our democratic republic? Because it's a constitutional republic. Thank you. Thank you. I don't know why she says that. I don't like it. She's a Democrat. Oh, yes, of course. Well, and then of course, President Trump just went on and on and on about this, calling out everybody. Oh, we're going to get everybody. And I hope that everybody's, you know, they're involved in it. I'm not. I'm the one that had to suffer through it and ultimately win. But what they did was criminal. Deranged Jack Smith, in my opinion, is a criminal.

1:28:52 And I noticed his interviewer was, I think... Notice how smart he is? He could be a podcaster, in my opinion. He slips it in there, so it's not libelous. So he's a, in my opinion, he's very good. Deranged Jack Smith, in my opinion, is a criminal. And I noticed his interviewer was, I think that was Weissman. And I hope they're gonna look into Weissman too. Weissman's a bad guy. And he had somebody in Lisa, who was his puppet, worked in the office really as the top person. And I think that she should be looked at very strongly. There was tremendous criminal activity having to do with, we don't have fair elections in this country, we're not gonna have a country. And I've said it from the beginning, fair elections and borders. And we need also fair press.

1:29:42 Because if you don't have fair press, it's very tough. They have committed massive political crime. I hope they're looking at Shifty Schiff. I hope they're looking at all these people. And I'm allowed to find out. I'm allowed to, you know, I'm in theory the chief law enforcement officer. But I have a very good and talented group. This is about something else. But I hope they're looking at political crime because there's never been so much political crime against a political opponent as what I had to go through. They raided my house in Florida. It was an illegal raid. I have a lawsuit that was doing very well and when I became president, I said, I'm sort of suing myself. I don't know what do you settle the lawsuit? I'll say give me X dollars, right? And I don't know what to do with the lawsuit. It's a great lawsuit. And now I want to expand. I'm suing myself, right? But that was a little bit. I love it when he loses it.

1:30:34 This is a great lawsuit, but I got how many X dollars I'm gonna give myself. It's a great lawsuit, but I can't do it. I can't sue myself. That was a very strong, very powerful. They raided illegally my house in Florida, Mar-a-Lago. They went through the drawers of my young son. They went through all of the cabinets and drawers of the first lady. She walked in, she said, wow, what happened? This is where video would be helpful. I just like to see them going through her drawers. Yeah, Melania's drawers. She's very meticulous. And this wasn't so meticulous as she looked into the drawers and she saw everything a mess. It's a disorder. What they did

1:31:16 Against the person that just got out of office nice So he goes on and on and I think it's getting to some Democrats because Pelosi She she lost it on the steps of the of the Capitol and if you saw that some reporter Mike Lindell's TV. Yes Lindell and the girl who does this she's pretty funny. I And I don't know if you saw the whole clip, but at the end she turns to the camera and gives a shit. She gives the grin, yeah. Big grin. But Pelosi, I just love this, it's short. Congresswoman Pelosi, are you at all concerned that the new January 6th committee will find you liable for that day? Are you at all concerned about the new January 6th committee finding you liable for that day?

1:32:01 Why did you refuse the National Guard on January 6th? Shut up. I did not refuse the National Guard. The president didn't send it. Why are you coming here with Republican talking points as if you're a serious journalist? The American people want to know. We still have questions. Thank you. I just love... Shut up. That's just the best. I mean, she's mad. She's off her... Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! She's mad. Now she's over the hill. She's lost it. But by the way, since you played some of these clips about this you know, these threats that are gonna go after this guy. They're gonna do nothing. The Republicans never do anything. They don't, no shift is gonna be fine. I mean, maybe they all get a little nervous. No one gets, one guy who's got indicted, Comey for some, you know, he got indicted for a good reason and is probably shut, open, shut case. And Letitia James, which seems like an easy one, because she's like, basically, seems to be corrupt.

1:31:16 Against the person that just got out of office nice So he goes on and on and I think it's getting to some Democrats because Pelosi She she lost it on the steps of the of the Capitol and if you saw that some reporter Mike Lindell's TV. Yes Lindell and the girl who does this she's pretty funny. I And I don't know if you saw the whole clip, but at the end she turns to the camera and gives a shit. She gives the grin, yeah. Big grin. But Pelosi, I just love this, it's short. Congresswoman Pelosi, are you at all concerned that the new January 6th committee will find you liable for that day? Are you at all concerned about the new January 6th committee finding you liable for that day?

1:32:01 Why did you refuse the National Guard on January 6th? Shut up. I did not refuse the National Guard. The president didn't send it. Why are you coming here with Republican talking points as if you're a serious journalist? The American people want to know. We still have questions. Thank you. I just love... Shut up. That's just the best. I mean, she's mad. She's off her... Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! She's mad. Now she's over the hill. She's lost it. But by the way, since you played some of these clips about this you know, these threats that are gonna go after this guy. They're gonna do nothing. The Republicans never do anything. They don't, no shift is gonna be fine. I mean, maybe they all get a little nervous. No one gets, one guy who's got indicted, Comey for some, you know, he got indicted for a good reason and is probably shut, open, shut case. And Letitia James, which seems like an easy one, because she's like, basically, seems to be corrupt.

1:33:05 But that's it. Where's all the Comer stuff about, oh, we've tracked all the bank accounts to Hunter Biden's laptops and we've put into pieces together, connecting all that, nothing's come of it. Where's Arctic Frost? And Arctic Frost, and they're all bitching about it every time Hawley's on a show or there's two or three of these senators that are complaining bitterly constantly, but it doesn't mean anything. They gripe, gripe, gripe, gripe, gripe, and that's about all that you get out of the Republican Party. Well, that's a disappointing thing to hear. Well, you know it. I know, but where's the fun in that? Where's the fun?

1:33:46 Yeah, there is no fun. They're just a bunch of softies. And then Pam Bondi, give me a break. Well, I mean, there's more memes. I'll put some memes in the next newsletter about, you know, they have more than one Pam Bondi doll with, you know, she's sitting there behind a desk with a bunch of stuff she doesn't want to look at. So something odd happened. I got a clip from the Clip Custodian. And he sends me, he said, this is an old clip and he sent it to me in context of a couple other clips that I'm going to play. But I had just clipped this myself and I guess it was a rerun, which is surprising that it ran again on the news and I got it from KREM in South Carolina and he had the original

1:34:43 from WYFF in South Carolina. I think they're both NBC affiliates. And so I'll play this clip and then I'll, which means, I think it'll make sense when I play the other clips. It's just interesting that he dug this up and said this is an old clip, but it makes sense in context of these other clips. which is a predictive program. So they're recycling news for some reason. Yes, for some reason. There is growing concern over a measles outbreak in South Carolina and whether misinformation about vaccines is making it worse. Health officials have now confirmed 16 cases in that state since July and dozens of students are quarantining at home right now.

1:35:24 Christian Benavidez has more from South Carolina. Measles cases are on the rise, forcing nearly 140 unvaccinated students in two South Carolina schools to stay home for three weeks after they were exposed to the virus. Parents Chandler and Emma Gordon are expecting baby number three in April. While they and their boys are vaccinated, the recent measles outbreak has made them extra careful. We're a little cautious knowing a newborn coming into this doesn't have the opportunity to be vaccinated or protected against measles. The highly contagious virus spreads through the air and can linger for up to two hours. Symptoms can include high fever, cough, runny nose, red eyes and a rash.

1:36:06 The virus can also cause severe infections, especially in kids under five. It's very concerning. We have never had this big of an outbreak, especially in such a short amount of time. Dr. Ashley Gardner works at Parkside Pediatrics in Spartanburg, South Carolina. Have you seen changes in parents in recent years? We have the miscommunications that can happen sometimes to decrease in vaccine rates and it's our job as doctors in order to help give truth and point them to hopefully having the best medical decision possible. The measles vaccine is safe and effective according to the state. Nationwide measles cases are at a more than three decade high while vaccination rates among kindergarteners have been trending downwards in recent years.

1:36:51 Measles is so contagious that it needs a very, very high level of vaccination in order to achieve that herd immunity. And so if it dips down at all, there's the risk for this highly contagious virus spreading very quickly. So this next clip I will play for the benefit of our ever-growing Gen Z contingent who tune in to their uncles to learn some stuff. And I'm going to resurrect the clip that you brought probably about a year ago, I think, of The Brady Bunch, which I watched as a kid growing up, you watched as a teenager growing up. The Brady Bunch, a great sitcom.

1:37:26 Mom had three daughters, Dad had three boys, they married, they got a housekeeper. It's a fun little sitcom and the Brady Bunch gets the measles. Here's how we talked about measles when we were kids back in the ice age. Hi! Peter! What are you doing home from school? They sent me home. Measles! See, their measles are a strange case of red freckles. You have got a temperature. They told me 101.1. What's the record? Never mind. Are you sure it's the measles? Well, he certainly got all the symptoms. A slight temperature, a lot of dots and a great big smile. A great big smile? No school for a few days. Say hello to my dotted son for me. Tell him I'll bring him some comic books and I'll see you later, dear. Okay, honey. Bye. Boy, this is the life, isn't it? Yeah. If you have to get sick, you sure can't beat the measles. That's right. No medicine. Inside or out. Like shots, I mean. Don't even mention shots.

1:38:24 Measles, measles, measles. Well all the kids have now had the measles. So have I. Well I had them years ago. Looks like the Brady's are finished with the measles. Hold it. You're not through yet. Alice, don't tell me you're coming down with the measles? Oh, I hope so. I'd hate to think I was just learning how to blush at my age. So that's how we thought about this very same disease, measles, when we were kids. You had spots and a big smile on your face. You got to stay home. You got to read comic books. You got ice cream. And it was better than getting a needle. No, we'd rather have measles.

1:39:12 Now we move forward in time to 2025. The Emmy award-winning, multiple Emmy award-winning HBO series, The Pit. Have you seen The Pit? I know about the pit. It's a, uh, it's a hot show. It's a very hot show and here is their Brady Bunch version of The Measles. Uh, we have a septic 13-year-old with pneumonia. I just intubated and ceftriaxone is on board. Hatchy consolidation, maybe some nodules. Could be viral pneumonia with or without bacterial superinfection. Kid's got a weird rash too. Oh, and it's macula papulae on the legs.

1:38:24 Measles, measles, measles. Well all the kids have now had the measles. So have I. Well I had them years ago. Looks like the Brady's are finished with the measles. Hold it. You're not through yet. Alice, don't tell me you're coming down with the measles? Oh, I hope so. I'd hate to think I was just learning how to blush at my age. So that's how we thought about this very same disease, measles, when we were kids. You had spots and a big smile on your face. You got to stay home. You got to read comic books. You got ice cream. And it was better than getting a needle. No, we'd rather have measles.

1:39:12 Now we move forward in time to 2025. The Emmy award-winning, multiple Emmy award-winning HBO series, The Pit. Have you seen The Pit? I know about the pit. It's a, uh, it's a hot show. It's a very hot show and here is their Brady Bunch version of The Measles. Uh, we have a septic 13-year-old with pneumonia. I just intubated and ceftriaxone is on board. Hatchy consolidation, maybe some nodules. Could be viral pneumonia with or without bacterial superinfection. Kid's got a weird rash too. Oh, and it's macula papulae on the legs.

1:39:54 Pretty faded on the neck and chest. Starting to desquamate. You ever seen anything like this before? Nope. Me neither. Well, that just goes to show you how old I am. This looks like measles. Measles? Holy shit. Any travel history? He wasn't able to talk before he intubated, but measles is super contagious. It's not contagious if it's resolving. We need more history. Where are the parents? Oh, they're at the movies. I'm sure their phone's off. But he came in with his little sister. We can talk to her. What theater? I don't know. Jen, try everything. It's gotta be overdosed. Start with the ones closest to where they live. We need to find those parents and call public health. Tell them we might have a measles outbreak. Oh no, we've got a measles outbreak!

1:40:38 Oh, I've seen this before I'm so old. It's the measles. Let's have the parents argue about shots and stuff and doing things Oh, no, it's the measles From his sister. Hi. I'm dr. Robbie. Georgia is fine. She's in our staff room She's the one who actually called 9-1-1 and probably saved her brother's life called 9-1-1 cuz he had the measles Georgia was sick, but she got better on her own quickly. Yeah, many people get better better on their own like Georgia, however, as many as one in 20 kids that get measles get pneumonia like your son. Are your children vaccinated against measles? No. The MMR vaccine is perfectly safe. Measles is... And effective. Not. We're concerned about inflammation and possible damage to Flynn's brain and spinal cord. The measles got to his brain? Well, his head CT was normal, but the only way to find out if he's okay is to perform a lumbar puncture. The measles got to... Oh, God! The measles got to his brain. We have to do a lumbar puncture. Make sure you get that beeping noise. Keep on going in the background. A spinal tap.

1:41:38 I've read about kids who've been paralyzed from a spinal tap. There is zero risk of paralysis. What about bleeding or infection? It's a perfectly safe procedure. We do it every day. We need spinal fluid to see if Flynn has acute disseminated encephalomyelitis. And if he does? We treat with high-dose steroids to decrease the risk of blindness, deafness, intellectual disability, even death. He could die from this? The death rate from ADEM is high. One in five. Do the spinal tap. No! Can't you just give him steroids without the spinal? If there's no AIDM, the steroids could suppress his immune system, making it harder to fight off the pneumonia. But it says here that... Can you put your damn phone away? Hey, hey, don't be doing your own research, lady! Your son is critically ill. The longer that we wait, the higher the risk of permanent brain damage. What is not clear here? Hillary, he has a tube down his throat. There's not poking holes in my son's spine! Wow. Okay.

1:42:36 How could this? What are you doing? You said she didn't want to be in the room. I was kidding. George has something to eat. Wait outside. Stop what you're doing right now. No, they're almost done. I can't believe you went behind my back. I did what was best for Flynn, not for you. Take that needle out of his back. No. Yes! Ma'am, I don't want to have to ask you to leave. Take it out right now. Yep, coming out. All done. My son is leaving this hospital. I'm sorry. She really is a good mom. I mean, come on! This is insane! The propaganda of this! And they get all the Emmys? They won a lot of awards. It's structured well, yeah.

1:43:44 That's just crazy. And it's shameful. I'd say it's just shameful that they would run storylines like that. And did the Brady Bunch ever win an Emmy? They sure deserve it. No, I don't think so. That was the golden era of sitcoms, so it was pretty hard to win anything. Yeah. Happy Days. It wasn't Happy Days. Happy Days was the same time. Kung Fu. Kung Fu. Yeah, Kung Fu grasshopper. It's time when you snatch the pebbles from my hand. Ah, these were good times. Love Boat. Come on, man. These were good shows. They were wholesome shows. You stay at home and watch with your family. We loved it. Those days are over. Yeah, we just doomscroll. Doomscroll. Look, look at the eagle. Look at the eagle. He picked up the baby.

1:44:39 My favorite. And the mom... So we also have, since we're talking doomscroll, one of our producers sent me this. It was a doomscroller. He knows who he is. This guy's a comedy, he's not a comedian, he's a satirist I think. And his name's Josh Sider, I think is how you pronounce it. And he does these take-offs on different people. And this is kind of a take-off on this character we've all seen on TikTok videos, or they pass it around. She gets around, she, he, they, them, I don't know who it is.

1:45:15 This Lily Tino person who's always being misgendered and she's in the restaurants and she's always getting free stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Excuse me, excuse me, what did you call me? Yeah, yeah, I want them. I have to leave. I don't feel my favorite Lily thing is it's always the same bit she says, he He called me sir, and then he did correct it to ma'am, but I don't feel safe. Yes, wait, you don't feel safe. Don't feel safe here. I don't feel safe here. I've got to go. So this is Josh who's also played a trans illegal immigrant.

1:45:56 But this is his latest bit and I think it's hilarious. Guys, it happened again. I was out minding my own business, not bothering anybody, and I got mispigmented. I was at the Dollar Tree, I was picking up some wave caps for the 360 waves I'm growing out, and this guy behind me is like, I didn't know white guys needed those things. And I said, excuse me, bigot? Did you just dead skin me? And he's like, what are you talking about? I'm like, what am I talking about? I was assigned white at birth by a doctor, but I identify as a black man. And this whole time the cashier's just kind of standing there. And I'm like, are you not going to say anything to this racist?

1:46:43 She's like, sir, he's an actual black man. I said, actual black man? Do you understand how harmful those words are to trans pigmented people like me? You know, and it's just like how many black identifying white guys are gonna have to suffer until people just start doing the right thing and affirming our identity. So the cashier is like, sir, you can either finish checking out or just leave. And I'm like, you keep calling me, sir, but I identify as a woman. And she's like, I am so sorry, ma'am. And so I ended up getting like 50% off my order. So anyways, I'm just really frustrated. Let me know what you guys think in the comments. Peace. Well, that brings me to a clip that I was tipped off, was tipped off to by the former New York banker said, did you see the stats that are going around? I said, no, what's that?

1:47:42 I found a clip of said stats. fire, which surveyed more than 60,000 undergraduate students across the United States. The share of respondents identifying as a gender other than male or female has fallen by nearly half over the past two years, from 6.8% in 2022 to 2023 to just 3.6% this year. The decline appears most pronounced at elite universities, where some campuses reported drops of up to 70%.

1:48:21 While the reasons behind the shift remain unclear, analysts point to a mix of cultural and political factors, including evolving public attitudes toward gender identity and heightened debate over related issues such as women's sports and public accommodations. Whatever the cause, it appears as though this trendy social contagion may be heading toward remission. 50%? Wow. There's hope. There's light at the end of the tunnel. Except for the people who got mutilated. Well, yeah. No, that's that's bad. Of course, of course. We've been following pig butchering for what a couple years now?

1:49:03 At least. And I've taken in that, because especially the Mercy Me guys, they're always laughing, they're always sending me the, because they always goad these scammers and they're always like, hey, I'm Alice or Kim or whatever. Goading the scammers is fun. Yeah, but when you hear about, you know, these are slaves basically being whipped because they haven't gotten enough money out of these poor schlubs who fall for this time and time again. And then the Department of Justice released a statement about they rolled up one of these big pig butchering scams and here's the report. The DOJ says it seized a staggering $15 billion in Bitcoin from a global pig butchering scam. The agency says it's the largest forfeiture in US history. Federal prosecutors charged Chin G, a Cambodian tycoon known as Vincent,

1:49:57 accusing him of running crypto fraud compounds where trafficked workers were beaten and forced to scam victims online. G's Prince Holding Group allegedly pulled in up to $30 million in a day, laundering stolen crypto through secret wallets. The FBI says the bust marks, quote, one of the largest financial fraud takedowns ever. G remains at large. $15 billion. That's a business. Yes, that's a business. Yeah, just whip some slaves, 15 billion dollars. That's a lot of money. It's a lot of money. He remains at large. Vincent. Vincent, yeah. Vincent. And then we have the ongoing blowing boats out of the water.

1:50:47 Yeah, I guess he blew another one up. Yeah, the fifth one. And here's the president with some statistics of his own. Well, I don't want to tell you exactly, but we are certainly looking at land now because we've got the sea very well under control. We've had a couple of days where there isn't a boat to be found. And that I view that as a good thing, not a bad thing. But we had tremendous amounts coming in by boats, by very expensive boats. You know, they have a lot of money, very fast, very expensive boats that were pretty big. And the way you look at it is every boat that we knock out, we save 25,000 American lives. So every time you see a boat and you feel badly, you say, wow, that's rough. It is rough, but if you lose three people and save 25,000 people, these are people that are killing our population. Every boat is saving 25,000 lives. And you can see it, the boats get hit and you see that fentanyl all over the ocean. It's like floating in bags, it's all over the place. And it's,

1:51:45 It's a tremendous, we're saving tremendous amounts of lives. I don't know where he gets the 25,000 lives saved or created from. I don't get that either. Most of those boats are headed to Europe or they're headed to a transfer point to go to... No, they're not. No, most of them... It's been documented largely that the Venezuelans are a transfer point for cocaine to the various islands to ending up in Europe. Oh, okay. That's different. I thought you were saying these boats were going to Europe. No, the boats can't get that far. But the Venezuelan drugs, it's a transfer point for Colombian and other cocaine suppliers. Well, this makes total sense.

1:52:25 Now it, thank you, now it makes sense. This is Trump hitting out at the North Sea Nexus like, you know, we're not going to let you even get your drugs to launder all that money through the port of Rotterdam. Now it makes sense. Well, using it from that perspective, I guess it gives it a different angle. Yeah. Like, no, you're not going to get, I'm not going to let you transport your drug money and drugs to get money and fund whatever you're doing over there. No. Yeah, and it's not fentanyl. No, it's not fentanyl. I don't think he said fentanyl, did he? Yes, he did. Oh, he did? He said fentanyl very specifically. No, it's not fentanyl. Here's a longer ABC report. A lot of politicians are very outraged by this, which I find puzzling. This morning, President Trump considering US strikes on Venezuelan soil to combat drug cartels.

1:53:18 Well, I don't want to tell you exactly, but we are certainly looking at land now because we've got the sea very well under control. The president also escalating U.S. operations against Venezuela's authoritarian leader, Nicolás Maduro, Trump confirming he's authorized covert CIA action in the country. But when asked if the agency has the authority to take out Maduro, Trump non-committal. In a statement overnight, Venezuela accusing Trump of trying to legitimize a regime change operation. Piecing the, they're putting together what they think is connecting the dots. Exactly, and then they throw in a little not-pop quote of him saying, I think they're feeling the heat. It's very interesting that they're doing this. Trump, non-committal. But I think Venezuela's feeling heat. In a statement overnight, Venezuela accusing Trump of trying to legitimize a regime change operation to access the country's oil resources, saying they would bring up the matter at the UN Security Council today.

1:54:25 It comes after the U.S. carried out its fifth deadly strike on an alleged drug boat off the coast of Venezuela, Trump posting this video on social media, saying six male narco-terrorists aboard the vessel were killed in the strike. The Trump administration's operation in the Caribbean first began in early September and has drawn fierce condemnation from Democratic lawmakers who say the strikes risk getting the U.S. into a full-fledged war. There's lots of people who have been designated terrorists that does not automatically give the authority to take lethal action. Asked why he's striking the boats instead of using traditional Coast Guard operations where officers can verify who is on the boat, Trump saying the Coast Guard boats are too slow. They have faster boats. Some of these boats are seriously, I mean, they're world class speed boats.

1:55:15 and but they're not faster than missiles. So far the administration has provided limited details and no evidence to prove that the 27 people killed were attempting to traffic drugs to the US as they claim. So there's a one in four chance. This is Rand Paul. All of a sudden they throw him in, and why is he all mad about stuff now? To traffic drugs to the US as they claim. So there's a one in four chance, statistically speaking, that one of these boats may not have had any drugs on it. We will never know because they were blown to smithereens. In a memo obtained by ABC News earlier this month, the administration told Congress that America is in a formal armed conflict.

1:55:59 and that drug cartels are deemed unlawful combatants. Again, that's a memo that you send to Congress when you're invoking some kind of war power. This is done continuously, but they make it sound like it's just, he just dashed off a memo and said, thank you for your attention to this matter. Now the Venezuelan government has repeatedly denounced the US strike saying they are quote a pure violation of international rights Maduro calling them quote aggression all down the line but US officials accused Maduro of facilitating drug trafficking from Venezuela a claim he denies Hmm now the whole CIA thing they bring in is interesting not sure exactly why they're doing that Probably some coded stuff we don't get possibly

1:56:48 I have a few clips here on, I think it's public service. Okay. And this is about the protein fad. Oh yes, didn't we have some clips on this about the Kardashians and popcorn protein and everyone's talking protein this and protein that? Yeah, I think we did in the past, but this was Consumer Reports doing some research and determining that most of the protein powders and stuff you get are so loaded with lead.

1:57:26 Why? Why is lead in there? They never explain why the lead is in there, but most of it's probably a function of the extraction process or they, I don't know. Somebody can maybe with, there's a chemist out there that knows how this is done, but this is a, and they soft pedaled this on NPR. They soft pedaled it a little bit, but anyone who, and I don't do this. I'm not a, I figure a couple of pieces of, steak or lamb chops or pork chops. Mine give you some protein that you need, yeah? I think you get your protein from that cheese, it's got a lot of protein in it, there's a lot of product out there. You don't have to add protein powder to everything. But listen to this, this is a

1:58:13 I consider this a public service for us to play these clips on this show. Americans are obsessed with protein. What once was more of a niche interest has gone thoroughly mainstream. Just check your local grocery store. Beef jerky, protein, boosted milk and yogurts, even soon protein pop tarts and Doritos. And of course, there are tons of protein powders. They're commonly made from whey, which is derived from milk, or from pea protein. And according to a Consumer Reports analysis, they likely contain something else. Toxic heavy metals, especially lead.

1:58:51 Yeah, all right NPR is doing this as a public service as well. I guess I think so This is a fascinating and this is of course one of their you know separate things It's not part of their daily news, but I'm sure they'll play it a few times But this is to me frightening because lead is one of the worst time you I mean, it's a cumulative product Did you get lead salts in yes cumulative it did cut? causes all kinds of neurological problems. Yeah, it's like radiation. It stacks up. It makes you sick and it makes you dumb. What? Sorry, I was too busy licking paint. Part two. Investigative reporter at Paris Smart Note. What is this happening? You have your way off balance. You've got right channel only. I don't... I didn't... I didn't send it that way. Oh, yes you did!

1:59:48 Okay, yeah, it happened over here. I'm sorry. I have to look at and I'm gonna go back and download these again I read download them and take a look and see what how you got that but here we go investigative reporter Paris Martineau joins us now to share what they've learned Okay, so first of all, I have to confess that I am one of those Americans that is obsessed with protein I actually had some protein powder in my smoothie this morning. So this is personal, do I need to throw out my protein powder? Like how alarmed should consumers be? Yeah, there's no reason for anyone to panic. What we basically found is we tested 23 popular protein powders and shakes. And we found that for more than two thirds of the products that we analyzed, a single serving of them contained more lead than what our food safety experts say is safe to consume in a day. Some of the products had more than 10 times the level that our experts say is safe. That sounds bad. I mean, it's not good. I will say that. I didn't even know that there was a recommended dosage of lead on a daily basis. I would think I want no lead.

2:00:50 Yeah, you want to know that, but there's a recommended minimum that you can tolerate, they believe. And you have more than that, you're exceeding consumption of lead that your body really can have. And they're talking about 10X and that's just in one serving. And these people that are protein nuts are listening to them. Five servings a day maybe. Yeah. Yeah, which accounts as far as I can tell, I think this may be accounting for the Septum rings and the funny makeup and the Democrats screaming on TikTok. Given that, some of the products we tested are fine to have occasionally, and even the ones with the highest lead levels are far below the concentration needed to cause immediate harm.

2:01:37 The real risk with lead is even if you were exposed to kind of low levels consistently over time, that lead could kind of build up in the body and eventually cause problems farther down the line. So I'd say the advice is more scrutinize your protein shakes and take a look at what you're using to make an informed decision rather than immediately freak out. And maybe it sounds layoff, I mean, in the sense of like not having it every day or not having it three times a day. That's one of the things that surprised me personally reporting out this story is like you and like many Americans, I was like really worried that I wasn't getting enough protein. I totally bought into the protein mania. But talking to nutrition experts and researchers in protein, the thing I heard again and again

2:02:20 is for the average person, you can very easily get all the protein you need from eating whole foods and it doesn't make much sense to turn towards protein supplements. So do you have any, before we get to the last clip, do you have any information on the effects of too much lead? I mean, do you really think that this could lead to errant behavior and posting on TikTok? Yeah, absolutely. Well, that doesn't give me a lot of information. Here, you've got your robot there. We haven't talked to her all day. Oh yes, let's talk to the robot. Ask her about what are some of the effects of lead poisoning and what... we had to get her to talk about the... can it change your...

2:03:07 Well, just ask her about lead poisoning in general, then maybe we can come up with something. Okay, error. What are some of the symptoms that people will show mentally from lead poisoning? Mental symptoms from lead poisoning can include irritability, anxiety, depression, and confusion. You might also see memory problems, trouble concentrating, or even hallucinations in severe cases. Kids could act hyperactive or have learning delays. It's sneaky. Those effects build up slowly if exposure is ongoing. Hmm. Error. Could it turn you into a rabid, lunatic Democrat?

2:03:50 No, lead poisoning won't turn anyone into a rabid lunatic Democrat. Oh please, you're biased. Shut up. She is biased. That is a very biased bot. And by the way, how many emails did you get about the black patenter of the airplane? I only got two. No, I got several. I got several. Yeah, it turns out the airplane was just a balloon. Yes, two balloons moving forward in flight. Yeah, so it wasn't really much of an airplane, but okay. Yeah. The error had it wrong then really. Yes. She should have clarified. So you're right. Error is a stooge in the Democrat party. That's right. Error is a stooge. All right. Final clip of the bad, bad protein fad. So you said you tested 23 powders and pre-made shakes. How did you decide to

2:04:41 test those products? We worked with a market research team within Consumer Reports to identify some of the best selling protein powders and shakes available at a variety of different brands from places like Amazon or Walmart. But we also bought some of the shakes in person at health food stores or supermarkets. And then we took those, made sure that we got a couple different samples of each product that represented at least two, I guess two to three different lots of the product and then sent them off to the lab to be analyzed.

2:05:17 So, people can go and check your reporting to see if their products were tested. But broadly, are there certain types of protein products that are more likely to have lead and other toxic metals in them? Yeah. So, generally speaking, plant-based protein products emerged as a point of concern. Nearly all of the plant-based products we tested had elevated lead levels. The lead levels we found in plant-based protein products were on average nine times the amount found in those made with dairy proteins like whey and twice as great as beef-based proteins. When it came to, I guess, the protein powders and shakes made with whey or dairy-based proteins, those generally had the lowest amounts of lead, but still half of the products we tested had high enough levels of contamination that our experts advise against taking them daily.

2:06:07 Paris Marno, investigative reporter for Consumer Reports. Thank you so much. Wow. Well, of course it's the water. The irony here is that the vegans... Yes? ...eat the plant-based stuff because they can't have whey. Yes, and it's even worse. That's even worse, which makes nothing but sense. And with that, I want to thank you for your courage. In the morning, to you, the man who put the C in the treasonous conspiracy, say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, Mr. John Cena! In the morning to the trolls, in the troll room. We counted your trolls. Hold on a second. Figured that would happen. We knew that was going to happen after you started the show off with, uh, with your, uh, 78s. 1557. It's low. It's very low, John. You scared them all off.

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2:08:42 Stuff like that, but we also have people who send us artwork and create artwork and we were very delighted with the art that we chose for episode 1807. We titled it Keyboard Warrior. Nesworks did a great piece, which we are pretty sure was not 100% AI, if at all, and it was a kid backpacking everything in the school and right there on the chalkboard, no agenda, learn chalk. And it was just a cute piece. It hit all the buttons for us. I don't think there was any argument at all that that was the winning piece. No, we had some other pieces that we discussed including, there was one that we're supposed to talk about.

2:09:29 Not the skull, the artist. I don't remember what we're gonna... I do, I do. I have to go look at it. Unfortunately, I don't have it open. Well, I thought the OG Podfather was great. I liked that one. The black guy. Black guy invented podcasting. Oh, the black guy. That was funny, I agree. That was funny. No, there was one here. Let me see if I can find it. It might be on page two. It was something... Yeah. One of our regular we had a lot of Glenn Beck with the Israeli flag Clothing which is like okay, and we're not doing that no I don't Remember what I was a zoomers and boomers by blue acorn which also had the blackboard, but it was too small

2:10:21 I don't remember what it was, John. It was something that... I do remember us saying we got to excoriate someone for that. I can't remember what it was. Yeah, well, we lost track of it. Next time I'm going to write it down. Well, there's a concept. Yeah, you know... Oh, I know, I know what it was. It was Darren with Albert E. Newman. Oh, right, right, right. Which is a very funny piece. He had Alfred E. Newman from Mad Magazine being injected. They had a little sign, he's a polio pioneer. And we can't use that and John will explain why. It's a licensed trademarked head. In fact, I think I may be the first person who licensed it for a book I did in the 80s.

2:11:12 On the Macintosh we got a hold of Mad Magazine and licensed the Alfred E. Newman character because they'll sue you over this. Yeah, they should. And they should. And they, so we got a license to use the Alfred E. Newman character on a book cover. It was funny. And so we can't just casually use Alfred E. Newman, because obviously the license for that book is not the same as using it for Elmer for the No Agenda show. No. But the funny thing was, it turns out in discussions with the magazine, the publisher, Gaines I think, or whoever it was at the time, said that no one ever asks the license. Really? Like one of the few people ever.

2:11:54 They go after you, yes, but it's not like a popular thing to license. Do you remember how much you paid for it? I think we got it free. Wow. Just for some credit? Yeah. Amazing. I don't remember paying money for it. And what was the book? Dvorak's Guide to the Macintosh, I think was the name of it. Something like that. Really? I didn't know that you did an actual guide to the Macintosh. Yeah. I thought you hated Macs. No, I never hated mechs. I used to have a couple. Oh. Yeah, but did you really use them?

2:12:30 Yeah, it's a good machine. I got the reputation for hating him because I was named the anti-editor of Mac User Magazine and I was given the assignment by Felix Dennis, the billionaire guy who owned the place. Was that the fat guy? No, not at all. Thin guy. He is a... I had to be a counterpoint to everything so I just bitched and moaned and complained. You're a pain troll. I was a pain troll in the early days. That's lovely. I respect. And then everyone got all mad at me. All the time. To this day, they're still irked.

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2:14:56 Oh, that's cool. Which is very cool. Not cool as I didn't see a note from Lubor and I'm presuming Lubor wanted to get in on the final opportunity to become a Secretary General, which is ending. Is the next show the last one? The last show, yeah. So you want to get in real quick on that. Pick up on this wonderful item that we have here on QVC. What did you pick up? What item did you pick up, Lubor? Oh, I got a Secretary General. Well, congratulations. Let us know what you want to be called and we'll throw you in the ceremony. Double up karma for you. You've got karma. Oh, look at that. John gets the long note. Well, you might as well take this one. Sir Becoming Heroic from Chererville, Indiana, 5-10-17.

2:15:48 Long note alert, sorry John. This is just not, this is not how you do it. First off, please call me the Secretary General of the Carnivore Nation. Eating this way isn't always easy, but it has been a life-changing in my mind, body and soul. And then he says, last week you guys played a clip about flu jab potentially causing COVID down the road. Well, I guess he has a story here. In November 22, my 84-year-old dad got COVID and ended up hospitalized for about a week because of dehydration and overall weakness that can happen with the flu. When COVID was first released, the first couple of weeks, I like that, the first couple of weeks was like he was cautious of his movements because of his age and because of a 30-year medicated heart condition he had. After he realized it was a scam, he picked up his car in June 20 and went on a 3,000-mile trek around the country visiting friends and family along the way, at least the ones that let him in.

2:16:41 He was smart enough to avoid the COVID jab and he wasn't licking any doorknobs, but he was freely moving throughout life, meeting new people along the way on multiple trips, 20, 21, 22. After his hospitalization, he still went on a couple more short trips, including attending grandkids, sporting events throughout the Midwest, but he never went back to 100% of his pre-hospitalization spunk and had a lingering cough. March of 23 spent the weekend with my son helping teach one of my son's friends how to shoot at the rain something he really enjoyed doing on that Sunday He went home went to sleep and never woke up. Huh as I was going through his affairs I found a statement from a medical appointment from October 22 where they offered a flu shot and he received that jab This is an insinuation

2:17:31 As soon as I read that, I told my wife that the flu shot is what killed him. Yes, he was 84 years old with comorbidities, but he was active, had a social life, had kids, grandkids, and great grandkids that he would call and text almost daily to be our biggest cheerleader in life. Wow. Is that the end of the note here? COVID started me down the rabbit hole, but this caused a deep dive on the medical-industrial complex. The more I learn, the more disgusted I become. Anyway, happy anniversary. Thank you. Sorry to hear about that. But yes, that seems plausible. Yeah, it does actually, unfortunately. Douglas Murray's up. Douglas Murray? Douglas Murray, but a different Douglas Murray.

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2:19:07 No, this just came in this morning. I know, I know. Oh, five in the morning? Yes. Oh, you sent it to Jay at five in the morning? Yes. Oh, okay, well this is probably the right note then. Never mind. Forget anything I said. I will forget everything you said. Here it is. Everything. This is the... No, this is her correction. Oh, okay. I don't want to take a chance. She comes in at five in the morning, she's writing in and oh my god. I'll cut all this out. No one knows the difference. Here we go. In three, two, one. Three, two, one. You know, I'm never gonna do it. How boys! Inviting all Southern Arizona slaves to the Happy Birthday No Agenda meetup on Thursday, October 23rd at 4 p.m. on the patio at Canyon's Crown. Yes, there will be cake!

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2:20:32 You've helped me see things. And then he's got a bunch of stuff scratched out with a... I wonder what that was. I don't know. Scratched out with a different point of view. Anyways, and he just spells it anyways, which is... That's irksome. This donation should put me over the top for my knighthood accounting enclosed. I would like to prefer to be knighted as Sir Fungus Among Us. Got it. As far as the roundtable, I would like nothing special. I am a... I have no idea what that word is. Grazer.

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2:23:38 In the context of how the last two World Wars started, to quote Tucker, Tucker, during his interview with the Seed Man, the one group, it says the the, the one group that doesn't get credit for making the world a worse place is the Brits. Yeah. Oh, good. Good. This needs to be catching on. Good. If possible, can I get an Alex Jones jingle? A lot of producers have reached out inquiring, will we be selling our cans online and shipping them? The answer is yes and soon. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Am I basically a beta tester? Yeah.

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2:28:35 Order! Shut up, slave! Shut up, slave! Shut up! Nancy. Nancy. Alright, let's see. Um... And uh... What do I have? How about some ice stuff? I got an NPR report. You got ice stuff? You got ice stuff? Okay. NPR, uh, first ice tactic. By now you might have seen videos on the news or on social media of federal immigration officers detaining immigrants using what look to be increasingly aggressive tactics. A recent poll by the New York Times and Siena College finds that while a majority of voters support deporting people who entered the country illegally, 51% say the Trump administration's tactics have gone too far. NPR criminal justice reporter Meg Anderson has this report on the tactics immigration and customs enforcement agents are using.

2:29:31 A video from Hyattsville, Maryland shows a man pinned to the ground by two ICE officers. He pleads in Spanish and English for someone to help him. One officer drops his gun during the exchange and fumbles for it. Then he appears to point it at bystanders. Put the gun down! Put the gun down! Emily Covington, an assistant director of ICE Public Affairs, told NPR in a statement that drawing a weapon can be used to stop a situation from escalating. Another video, this one from the Chicago area, appears to show a man getting shot in the head with a ball containing chemical irritants outside an ICE facility. That man has sued the Trump administration.

2:30:17 Now is there more than this one? Because you said... It goes on, but it's the same thing. It's just complaining. Well no, they're setting it up. They're setting up for an event where you see this is it, these guys are no good, this is horrible, this is what you get, we need civil war. These people are eating protein powder, John. Yeah, well there's no doubt about that. Meanwhile, in Europe, certainly in monarch Europe, They are just psy-oping their population. It's like, oh, you know, we've got to take you back in time 80 years. Sweden is readying for war. Since 2024, it has invested around 7.7 million euros to upgrade its

2:31:02 64,000 shelters built during the Second World War and the Cold War, like this one in Sweden's capital of Stockholm, Delgale Dams. Car Park seems like an ordinary underground parking area carved into the rock face, but it can actually also serve as a public shelter for 1.2 thousand people. It can resist The blast and the debris and such things that comes with a bomb. And then it's airtight, so it even resists

2:31:44 biogas or chemical gas or even nuclear waste. With tensions with Russia increasing since the full-scale war in Ukraine, the Swedish government has promised to increase its civil defence budget by seven times. But Johanesson says the money allocated is unlikely to cover cost of fixing all of the shelters, let alone building new ones. Sweden's civil defense minister warned last year that a military attack could not be ruled out. Don't worry citizens, we're just increasing your taxes and spending it on war stuff because you know, Russia could attack. Chemical weapons. We're doing it for your safety to protect your freedoms. It's really crazy. Protect your freedoms. Yes. Meanwhile, Geert Wilders, they have the

2:32:41 What's the word? Not decommissioned, de-missionaire. They have the caretaker government in the Netherlands because the cabinet fell, you know, so, you know, they're gearing up for, you know, Geert Wilders was the one who said, okay, well, look, you guys don't want to do anything about these immigrants, then okay, the cabinet falls. And so elections will be coming up again and right on cue. We want 60,000 Syrian refugees in the Netherlands to return to Syria immediately. And we want, maybe one of the most important things, we want all criminal foreigners to be deported from the Netherlands. And the crowd goes crazy! It was in Hungary, so there was no crowd to go crazy. But...

2:33:28 That's the kind of talk they want to hear now, I believe. Not the technical. Yeah, probably, but there's nothing that's going to come of it. Well, I don't know. It depends on the Dutch. That's really, it depends on them if they want to do it. They put up with a lot, it seems to me. Oh, well, yeah, they do. Let's see, I have some shutdown stuff, which... I have one shutdown clip. Okay, let's play this. A federal court... There's your... There's your off-axis NPR clips. It's only with your NPR clips. These are all new ones too. Did you clip them yourself? Yeah.

2:34:16 I mean there's one clip where I didn't clip myself. A couple actually but you're heavy on the right. You're heavy on the right. Here we go. A federal court says President Trump has to stop firing workers during the government shutdown. U.S. District Judge Susan Ilston in San Francisco issued the ruling after federal agencies started laying off workers last week. Trump has said he's targeting what he calls Democrat agencies. Democrats say they're not intimidated by Trump blaming them for the layoffs. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer says Democrats are holding firm on their demands for Congress to extend health care subsidies. Neither Trump nor congressional Republicans are even trying to solve the health care crisis. That is just a horror to the American people. While Republicans are confident in their strategy to not negotiate with Democrats on health care until the government is reopened, here's Senate Majority Leader John Thune. I think the American people are wondering

2:35:10 when the Senate Democrats are going to end their temper tantrum and vote to reopen the government. A bill to temporarily fund the government again failed in the Senate today. Government workers are feeling the effects of the shutdown as it stretches into week three. Gabriella Paul at member station WUSF spoke with a federal worker who says it's affecting her finances and mental health. Tierra Carter answers the phones for the Social Security Administration in Tampa. She's working without pay until the shutdown ends. We're stressing about the fight that's going on in the White House. We're also stressing out about how we're going to handle our financial situations at home. Last week, the Trump administration began mass layoffs across several federal agencies. Carter says her department is spared.

2:35:56 for now. To be completely honest, I feel ashamed to be a American citizen right now. I mean, who does this to their own essential workers? Every day the shutdown drags on, Carter says the agency's backlog of service requests grows. Yeah. A little slanted reporting there, it seems to me. Just a tad, perhaps. NPR pushing the Democrat agenda. Don't give them money. I was talking to to Tom Luongo of the Gold, Guns and Goats podcast. And he said, what's really happening here, he says, is they're shutting down all of the climate change stuff. That's why you don't hear about it. He says it's got to be a trillion dollars worth of climate change stuff all over the government that they're shutting down. So the way I understood it is this kind of a red herring, these jobs,

2:36:48 the RIF, the reduction in force, but it's really money being shut off from climate change stuff. Which is probably quite a lot. Stuff is the right word, scam is the word. Good morning, I'm an air traffic controller here, do you want to help aviation safety by ending the shutdown? This member of the air traffic controllers union handed leaflets to travelers outside Reagan National Airport in Arlington, Virginia Tuesday to highlight the impact of the ongoing government shutdown. The American worker that lives paycheck to paycheck, which is almost every air traffic controller, cannot In a social media post, the White House Office of Management and Budget said Tuesday that it is preparing to quote, ride out the Democrats by continuing to pay troops and law enforcement and more reduction in force notices. We are closing up Democrat programs that we think that we disagree with and they're never going to open again. At a news conference, Democrats called the Trump administration's layoffs illegal.

2:37:47 Firing and threatening to fire federal employees is part of the Trump administration's campaign to inflict trauma on our federal workforce. House Speaker Mike Johnson has warned this shutdown could be the longest in history as lawmakers remain deadlocked. But President Trump says his administration has identified funds to at least pay the military, a move some Democrats say is likely illegal. My understanding of this is they have every right to move the funds around. If the Democrats want to go to court and challenge troops being paid, bring it. Erica Brown, CBS News, Capitol Hill. Bring it. Bring it.

2:38:23 I'm big bad Mike Johnson. Bring it, bring it, I tell ya. Kristi Noem. Oh, it's Kristi Noem she's talking about? Yes. I'll play it again. Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem, who never passes up the opportunity to get in front of a camera, often in cringy outfits, has even gone as far as to tape this video to be played at TSA checkpoints at airports across the country. Isn't it just rude for women to make rude comments about their wardrobe? Isn't that something that women just don't do?

2:37:47 Firing and threatening to fire federal employees is part of the Trump administration's campaign to inflict trauma on our federal workforce. House Speaker Mike Johnson has warned this shutdown could be the longest in history as lawmakers remain deadlocked. But President Trump says his administration has identified funds to at least pay the military, a move some Democrats say is likely illegal. My understanding of this is they have every right to move the funds around. If the Democrats want to go to court and challenge troops being paid, bring it. Erica Brown, CBS News, Capitol Hill. Bring it. Bring it.

2:38:23 I'm big bad Mike Johnson. Bring it, bring it, I tell ya. Kristi Noem. Oh, it's Kristi Noem she's talking about? Yes. I'll play it again. Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem, who never passes up the opportunity to get in front of a camera, often in cringy outfits, has even gone as far as to tape this video to be played at TSA checkpoints at airports across the country. Isn't it just rude for women to make rude comments about their wardrobe? Isn't that something that women just don't do?

2:39:15 If there were, if there's a Democrat woman condemning a Republican woman, it's okay. Protein popcorn. Democrats in Congress refuse to fund the federal government. And because of this, many of our operations are impacted and most of our TSA employees are working without pay. You know, this is usually the video that's like, stay stape. If you see something, say something, whatever it may be. Unfortunately for Noem, that video is not going to be seen by the number of air travelers she had hoped. And that's because airports across the country are refusing to air it. Officials in Buffalo, Charlotte, Cleveland, Los Angeles, Phoenix, Seattle and Portland, Oregon all have said that the video violates internal policies as well as state and local laws. Wow, what a great report, Jen. Can't believe she's still on the air with that stuff. This ain't from the quad screen.

2:40:11 The grand jury indicted John Bolton. Yeah, well that was a foregone conclusion. Yes, but what he was indicted for we're not sure. I think it's for having classified documents on his possession. I think it's sniffing farts in public. Well that could be too, but I don't know what the offense is. Anything's possible. I think we had January 6th off, we had that. Oh yes, we do have a one climate change quick clip. The UN's climate agency says there was a record increase in carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere last year. It says the rate of the increase has tripled since the 1960s. The director of the European Union's Copernicus climate change service is Carlo Biontempo. The most surprising element is that we are surprised that we reach a new peak.

2:41:07 The main factor has been our additional influx of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere. If we continue on this path, we are very likely to see the exceedance of the 1.5 degrees. Shut up. Okay, well, you're going to play that. Let's go back. Let's go back 43 years. Okay, 43 years ago that would put me at about 20-something. All right, I'm ready. This is the Climate CBS report from Dan Rather. 1982. Do we need, you know what we need? Hold on a sec, we need a harp.

2:41:44 We can't just go back in time without the harp. So people have to feel like we're really doing this. Okay, here we go. Going back in time on no agenda to 1982. Concern about rising temperatures on planet Earth heated up a hearing here in Washington today. For years, scientists have theorized about the dangers of the so-called greenhouse effect. the warming of the Earth's atmosphere due to the burning of coal and oil. And in recent months, as David Cullhane reports, research has uncovered facts to support that theory. Many scientists claim that the temperature of the Earth's atmosphere has been rising over the past 100 years, that the great sheets of pack ice in Antarctica are melting at a much more rapid rate than previously.

2:42:30 And finally, that the sea level has been rising with increasing swiftness over the past 40 years. If these scientists are correct, about 25% of Florida would be flooded along with low-lying areas all over the world. Climate changes could produce widespread disruption of agriculture. The American farm belt might be too dry and the wheat and corn crops would have to move to Canada. Scientists blame the odorless, colorless carbon dioxide gas for these potentially dangerous changes around the planet. It is the greenhouse effect. The gas allows sunlight to filter down and warm the Earth. But like the glass of a greenhouse, the carbon dioxide tends to trap heat so that it cannot rise into space.

2:43:11 The scientists maintain that the coal, oil and gas we've been burning for a hundred years have produced more and more carbon dioxide and helped overheat the earth. Now some political leaders endorse the demands for more CO2 monitoring stations like this one in Hawaii. And they share the anger of the scientists at Reagan administration budget cuts at a time when they feel closer to getting definitive answers. We are not doing the kind of research that we should be doing to determine whether or not these scientists who were so alarmed are correct in their assessment. And what they find out will affect the lives and fortunes of millions of people. The very survival of cities like this one. David Culhane, CBS News, New York. That's a great clip. Where'd you get that from?

2:44:03 I was just floored. Someone dug it up and it was floating around. Oh man, 42 years this scam has been. 43. And that's after the whole we're going to die of frostbite. Yeah, it's really amazing. Well, before we go to break here, I just want to mention there was a pretty good idea from Kiwi Chris. You know, I've been looking at the prices of the ultimate no agenda meetup at the Sphere. Oh yeah, the Sphere. In Vegas, yeah. So it costs about a million and a half dollars to rent the Sphere for one 24-hour period and about a million and a half dollars for all the production. And he says, you know, I just heard the plans for the show at the Sphere. I'm sure it would be just magnificent. However, I think you've missed the part that will be the thing that really brings them in. And I thought, you know, we might be able to crack this financial nut of $3 million

2:45:00 He says, no agenda the musical. And I'm like, this is a great idea. Yeah, I think no agenda the musical could be a big hit. I think that we did our end of show mixers who love their AI so much should be should be doing working on it as we speak musical numbers. He says all the deconstruction you will ever need sung by John and Adam with special opening dance number by the keeper commissary blogger Eli the coffee guy Linda Lou and Brian with an eye. That way you can produce a video, double album, t-shirts, songbook. Think of all the merch! Exit strategy! This is it. No Agenda the musical. It's kind of like the Book of Mormon, only different. Yeah, exactly like that. I need your buy-in on this. I need your buy-in. Oh yeah, yeah, I'm all in. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab.

2:46:01 We got two meetup reports from Texas where a lot of people were hanging out together. It seems like a lot of people from Texas donate in general as well. We do have a night. We've got a pair of Secretary Generals. Of course the birthday count. Everybody wants to hear their birthday and John is now going to thank the producers who supported us $50 and above. But first of all I want to play this bonus clip. Bonus clip? Yeah it turns out that the world uh what's the date today? Today is October 16th. Oh that's weird because on October 14th the world should have had this massive change because of some resonance. Well play this clip and it'll take us well

2:46:56 Could save this no no no no I want to hear it is this the Schumann resonance no no no No, I don't know what resonance this is, but it was supposed to be, you know, like the 14th. We were going to have a different world and it's the 16th and I don't see it. Well, I want to hear it now. Mark the date. On the 14th of October, we are experiencing something extraordinary, which is timelessness, because the past, the future and the present will become one. And no, this doesn't happen every October 14th. This is a once in history alignment known as the golden intersection of timelines. So exactly 443 years ago, Pope Gregory XIII changed the calendar and distorted the natural flow of time. He reformed time itself and with that we began living in disharmony. We're constantly running after time instead of flowing with nature. Time is not linear, it is a

2:47:54 and our calendar doesn't acknowledge that. And that's what we're being reminded of on the 14th of October. Why that date? Because 1582, Pope Gregory signed the decree that introduced his calendar until October 14th, 2025. There are precisely 161.803 days. And that number mirrors the golden ratio. This is the divine proportion. It is found everywhere in the universe, in seashells, galaxies, flowers, even within our DNA. Also, October 14th is celebrated as World Standards Day, the date that humanity chose to honor the global standardization of measurements and time. But what makes this day truly extraordinary is that three great calendars, the Mayan Long Count, the Zolkin, and the Gregorian calendar, all synchronized through this

2:48:45 same harmonic code on this stage. So on October 14th and 15th, artificial time finally aligns with natural time and that creates a window of perfect harmony. So this will be a moment to remember that harmony is not an idea, it is a frequency. And on these days that frequency will be playing out. So we will be reminded of what it feels like to move with time and not against it. Because this isn't just about numbers or calendars, this is about resonance. So if you want to dive deeper into this and prepare yourself for this energy on the 14th, feel free to join my live stream on Friday where I will dive deeper with you into the golden intersections of timelines. To join, just read the caption below. Blessings and thank you for tuning in. Oh, brother. We lost everybody now. That was the worst clip ever.

2:49:36 It was a great clip. There you are again condemning my great clips. Like our... like uh... was it Trudy? What was her name? Yeah, yeah, the one person. The one person. Well, I got another one so there's two. But that was, this would have been great to play on October 13th or the 12th. We didn't have a show on October 13th. We had a show on the 12th, that would have been perfect. Was this a Dutch woman by the way? She sounded Dutch. She did sound funny. It's funny. Alright, now we can thank our producers $50. Well let's start with Anonymous and Alpharetta Georgia came in 105.35.

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2:53:21 We've got two secretary generals coming in just under the wire, which is very good. And... Can I say something? Yes? That secretary gen... general's jingle is driving me nuts. Why? I hear it all day. It's just like a bug. It's like one of those worms. What do you call it? Earworm. It's an earworm. So do you want me to give... For some reason, I just keep hearing this song when I go to bed. I'm hearing it all during the day. I'll be glad when this is over. This promotion will end very soon. It is time to hail them! All hail to the Secretary's generals, cause they are the ones who need hail.

2:54:05 Hail to the Secretaries General! And we say congratulations to the Secretary General Lubor Benda and Secretary General of the Carnivore Nation. Both of you should go to noagendarings.com. Let us know where to send these handsome certificates so everybody will know that you are a Secretary General of the No Agenda Show! Hail to the Secretaries General! Cause they are the ones who need hail! And we have one knight who as we know donated to 22.22 so bring out your 22 your row of ducks sword there if you don't mind the one that you yeah, yeah, it is perfect

2:55:00 Ron Sherman, step on up, sir. I know you didn't want anything special for the roundtable. We do have special stuff for you because it's always special at the roundtable for the Noahj and the Knights and Dames. Thanks— ow! Almost cut myself. Thanks to your support in the amount of $1,000 or more which you tallied up and gave us the accounting, I am very proud to pronounce the KD as SirFungus Among Us. And for you, we have Hookers & Blow, Rent Boys, and Chardonnay. Along with that, we've got some Harliss and Haldol, we got Redheads and Rides, we got Gates to the Sake, Vodka and Vanilla, Bong hits and Bourbon, Sparkling Cider and Escorts, Ginger Ale and Gerbils, Fresh Milk and Pablum, and as always...

2:55:41 As you're grazing around the round table, you've got your mutton and your meat. Go to noagenderrings.com. Everybody can check out those handsome knight and dame rings. They are signet rings, so it comes with a wax. You can use those to seal your important correspondence, a certificate of authenticity, and of course, let us know what your ring size is. And we look forward to hailing you as a knight of the No Agenda Roundtable. And now it's time for our meetup. No Agenda Meetup! Alright, we had a lot of people at these meetups. Everybody has to get their little two cents in. So the first one is Dirty Jersey Whore who organized the Johnson City meetup on the 10th of October, one day before the Fredericksburg meetup. And here's the report. Hey, this is Rudy. I'm just out here looking for some big cans.

2:56:31 coffee cans, that is big ones. Filling in for Daniel because he dropped the mic. Well it was beeping so I thought it was recording. Mr. Brian with an I in the morning. Hey this is Daniel aka Dirty Jersey Whore. We're here at the Johnson City Night Before the Storm meetup. We're having a big time here in Johnson City, Texas. So I'm the new Secretary General of converting factories back It's just as good as the first. Looking forward to seeing everybody tomorrow.

2:57:09 here in Jefferson City. Glad to be invited and having a great time and hope to come back soon. Circadian break here, hanging out here at Johnson City and it is the Pecan Street Brewing. This is Robbie and I had something witty to say but I forgot it. This is Patty in the morning. This is Melinda. I should not have had that second. Wow, very noisy there and a lot of the same people including our Secretary General of the Stop the Factories Go to the Farm, the farm, what's her name? Janice, Janice Giles I think, Janet, Janet, Janet Gilles.

2:57:52 There you go. She also showed up in Fredericksburg. This is a this was a very big meetup Hey, it's Tina the keeper in the morning, and it's the pod father and this has been our best J6 or Jenny outfit meetup yet, and thank you to Gail and Matt In the morning, this is Barron Serotonin coming all the way from Fort Worth. This is Brendan from Local 512 saying in the morning. Hi there, I am Caleb Funk. I'm here with my smoking hot wife and we are over-informed and under-socialized. This is Chris. This is Jay. from Round Rock in the morning. Hey, I'm Chris from Washington. This is great. Got to meet a bunch of new people and everybody was really friendly. Dame Tracy of the Roman Rite and this is my first time at the big meetup. I got to meet Adam and the keeper. Hi, this is Ders from Centerpoint, Texas. It was a great time. Hey, this is Dirty Jersey Whore. I miss you, Matt.

2:58:49 In the morning. This is Baron Scott, soon to be Viscount Scott and Keeper Christine getting ready to celebrate our 18th wedding anniversary the day after the show's anniversary in the morning. This is Sir Brian with an eye from Cedar Park and I just met some lovely Dutch people. Hi, we're Max and Emma, the Dutch people. In de ochtend. Goedemorgen. Goedjes. Hi, this is Instant Night, Sir Tim of the Domestead. Okay, this is Dame Mary of the Domestead. We're in Lukenbach, Texas. This is Duke of the South, Patrick. Howdy. Kema Region number four checking in.

2:59:30 In the morning, this is Gordon Myers from Dripping Springs, Texas. Hey, this is Rudy. My name's Holly. We just moved to Texas from Colorado, but I'm from Washington State. In the morning, this is Alyssa. This is Jamie. We have our human resources here. And we're wondering where our friend Casey is. If you're listening, reach out. Hi, this is Jess Gregg in the morning. Hi, this is Karen Myers. Everybody have a good day. Hi, it's Con L. Lingus from Austin, Texas. Hey, this is Marco from Central Oregon. Pleased to meet you. Hey you guys, thanks for being there. In the morning, this is Nick from Austin. I'm Nikki from Adelaine. Oh, hello John! In the morning, this is Nick from Austin.

3:00:10 Hey, this is Paul Bailey. Don't forget to get the Godcaster app. I'm Ralph from Durango, Colorado Hey, this is Rob your constitutional lawyer bringing you speech that is free for the usual fee. Okay, it's Todd in the morning Ladies, Trinidad having a blast at Furnishburg, Reno This is Gary B. Bride the second worst bartender in the county here at 1776 bar and if you missed it, you missed it Hi, my name is Leslie Leslie Stewart and I am helping out at the full moon and as a bartender and the no agenda folks are amazing amazing people and it's been so fun to be here in the morning it's Gail standing in for Matt we've had a great crowd this is great I can't wait to go another one that was a big meetup we've got a meetup taking place today the North Idaho Sanity Brigade October meetup five o'clock at trails and brewery and brick oven pizza that's in Coeur d'Alene

3:01:03 Also today Charlotte's Thursday third Thursday monthly meetup that'll kick off at 7 tonight at Edge Tavern in Charlotte, North Carolina on Saturday There's a new location for the Dallas Fort Worth mid cities meetup. That's 1130 in the morning at Chef Point Cafe in Coleyville, Texas Also on Saturday the 37th no agenda meetup in Fort Wayne, Indiana Hall's Tavern and Coventry That's at noon and also on Saturday all aboard number 68 Santa Fe Cafe Fullerton, California That's another flight of the no agendas. I guess they're gonna be looking at trains again and

3:00:10 Hey, this is Paul Bailey. Don't forget to get the Godcaster app. I'm Ralph from Durango, Colorado Hey, this is Rob your constitutional lawyer bringing you speech that is free for the usual fee. Okay, it's Todd in the morning Ladies, Trinidad having a blast at Furnishburg, Reno This is Gary B. Bride the second worst bartender in the county here at 1776 bar and if you missed it, you missed it Hi, my name is Leslie Leslie Stewart and I am helping out at the full moon and as a bartender and the no agenda folks are amazing amazing people and it's been so fun to be here in the morning it's Gail standing in for Matt we've had a great crowd this is great I can't wait to go another one that was a big meetup we've got a meetup taking place today the North Idaho Sanity Brigade October meetup five o'clock at trails and brewery and brick oven pizza that's in Coeur d'Alene

3:01:03 Also today Charlotte's Thursday third Thursday monthly meetup that'll kick off at 7 tonight at Edge Tavern in Charlotte, North Carolina on Saturday There's a new location for the Dallas Fort Worth mid cities meetup. That's 1130 in the morning at Chef Point Cafe in Coleyville, Texas Also on Saturday the 37th no agenda meetup in Fort Wayne, Indiana Hall's Tavern and Coventry That's at noon and also on Saturday all aboard number 68 Santa Fe Cafe Fullerton, California That's another flight of the no agendas. I guess they're gonna be looking at trains again and

3:01:38 and we have the No Agenda Ohio meetup at 5.30 at Dempsey's Tavern on Saturday in Columbus, Ohio. And finally, the Sunday show will be accompanied by MeetupDB's Pat Surprise birthday party, Michigan Local 1 holding that at 2 o'clock at Horrocks Farm Market Beer Garden in Lansing, Michigan. Just some of the smattering of no agenda meetups that take place all around the globe. We have them literally all around the globe. Go to noagendameetups.com to find out where they are. If you can't find one near you, just start one yourself. It's fun, easy and always a party. You wanna be where you won't be Triggered or held lame You wanna be where everybody feels the same It's like a party... And we end this party as always with John's tip of the day coming up in just moments and of course we always want to find a fun ISO to end the show with and I see you have, what do you have? You have

3:02:48 Two here. One. Three! I'm sorry, you have three. Don't get mad. Don't get mad. Get even. Don't get mad. Get even. Three ISOs. Well, maybe I should start with mine then. Should I start with mine? Yes, I believe so. Okay. Ten out of ten. It's awesome. Knocked out of the park. That's not bad. Yeah. It's terminated. That's not bad. Yeah, and then of course I had Where's my, uh, huh, I lost it. Where's the, uh, yeah, this one. I like this one. I still like that one. Shut up. I still like that one. I can't help myself. All right. What do you got? Well, first of all, we had a seance. A seance? Yeah, and then we got a, I got a clip which I think it finds some use someplace, but it's not going to be a good end of show mix thing. But this is, yeah, we, we, we conjured up a Walter Cronkite.

3:03:47 On the AI, yes, on 11 lives. No, it was a seance. Oh, okay. And we recorded it and here it is. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak provide an invaluable public service. They guide their listeners through the thick jungle of bullshit that the mainstream news media have planted using machetes of truth and logic. Wow, I like that one a lot. I don't mind using that one. That's cool. That's a good one. Yeah, he made a point. Yes, he made a very good point, our old Walter Cronkite. It didn't sound like him at all, but I mean, you know, he's a ghost. It came as a seance. Yeah, what are you gonna do? What are your other choices? It could have been the recording gear. Oh yes, probably. And then it got rubble. Rubble!

3:04:34 Okay, yes. And then we have another dude came into the seance as Kennedy, John Kennedy, the Senator. Well, hot damn. That was a real humdinger. That's actually better than Cronkite. Well, hot damn. That was a real humdinger. Oh, you know, why don't I use this at the end when the mic drop comes and then I'll play Cronkite as an extra bonus end of show. Perfect. Okay. And before all that though, we get another John's tip of the day. So I'm not going to do this too often, but I'm going to do it this time. Okay. Which is I'm going to recommend a movie. Wow. As a tip of the day. But it's not a movie you can just go see and it's not out. Hmm.

3:05:32 It's a movie you're gonna have to track down or you have to get a Turner Classic movies. They just played it recently. I saw it again for about the fifth time and I have to say this movie is important to listeners of this particular show. Let me guess, let me guess. The Internationalist. No, that's a good movie. I like that movie. No, no, no. The Manchurian Candidate. And that's from the 50s, 60s? 50s or 60s. But it's like, it is such an outstanding movie with With Angela Lansbury playing the heavy, she plays a character who is basically Hillary Clinton. And she's such a good actress. You think of her as some sort of a goofball actress doing murders she wrote or whatever. No, no. She was a solid.

3:06:24 actress and she plays a very nasty character in this movie but it's a starring Frank Sinatra. Yes. But this movie and I've seen it and seen it and seen it and every time I watch it it's like it's a fabulous film and people should find a way to watch it or find a way to track a copy down. Even if you have to download it just get a copy of this and watch it. It's a fabulous film I tell you everybody. It's not a film John it is cinema. Yeah, it is cinema. Those days are over. I mean, the troll room was guessing Debbie does Dallas and all kinds of other films, but no, no one expected to hear the Manchurian candidate. Another fantastic tip of the day. Find them all at tipoftheday.net. And that does it, everybody.

3:07:21 But that doesn't mean that your fun is done. No, no. Because, oh goodness, we have congressional dish running on the stream. Interesting. Oh, that's interesting. Haven't heard Jen Briony in a while. There's her golf club swing again. That's coming up next on no agenda stream calm of course you can always tune in to know agenda stream calm 24 hours a day There's always something interesting many of them are live get your modern podcast app to be alerted when they go live particularly these those guys from planet planet rage I like I like that show End of show mixes we have Let's see we've got agent looper, and we have it's been two weeks in a row We have another one from the clip custodian himself Neil Jones stay tuned for that and as always

3:08:12 I am coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, home of the J6 or Jenny meetups, Fredericksburg, Texas. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where it's actually nice out today, I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll be back on Sunday. Please join us for more media deconstruction and whatever happened to John Bolton. Remember us at noagendadonations.com. Until then, adios mofos, hui hui, and such. Because all countries need allies. Here is a group of people who we can use as the theoreticians and the executors of the US policy that we want. And Israel is an ally, it's a fighting ally that pulls its weight. America's landed aircraft carrier. We're the junior partner.

3:08:59 We have fought now a seven front war, we have an eighth front. The infosphere is the eighth front and seizing the high ground in the fight for global public opinion is a battle. He told these people I think they're going to kill me. Who is they? Charlie writes in this group chat just lost another huge Jewish donor. Jewish donors play into all of the stereotypes. I cannot and will not be bullied like this. Reporters in Gaza are Palestinians and those people fall into three categories. Some of them identify with Hamas, some of them are intimidated, and the third category is people who actually belong to Hamas. The AP, like all of its sister organizations, collaborates with Hamas censorship in Gaza. What does that mean?

3:09:43 center of the coverage will be a number, a casualty number that is provided to the press by something called the Gaza Health Ministry, which is Hamas. And it's a way of basically settling the story before you get into any other information. They won't have it! Is that clear? You think you merely stopped a business deal. That is not the case. The Arabs have taken billions of dollars out of this country and now they must put it back! It is ebb and flow! Tidal gravity.

3:10:22 It is ecological balance. You are an old man who thinks in terms of nations and peoples. There are no nations, there are no peoples, there are no Russians, there are no Arabs, there are no third worlds, there is no West. There is no West. There is only one holistic system of systems. There is no West. One vast and inmane, interwoven, interacting, multivariate, multinational dominion of dollars.

3:11:14 Petrodollars, Electrodollars, Multidollars, Reichmarks, Rims, Roubles, Pounds and Shekels. It is the international system of currency which determines the totality of life on this planet. The best podcast in the universe! Adios, mofo. Dvorak.org slash N-A. Well, hot damn! That was a real humdinger! Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak provide an invaluable public service.

3:12:06 They guide their listeners through the thick jungle of bullshit that the mainstream news media have planted using machetes of truth and logic.