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00:00 This is a stunner. Adam Curry, John C. DeVore. It's Sunday, June 29th, 2025. This is your award winning Give My Nation Media Assassination Episode 1777. This is no agenda. Now with less than one third adult content and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region Number 6 in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, Where we all wonder whatever happened to Trini Lopez? I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning! First of all, I'm almost positive you have used that as an opening on the show before. I hope not. I may have to look it up. Second of all, if I had a hammer, I'd hammer in the morning.

00:51 Wasn't that Trini Lopez? It was one of his songs. Yeah, it was of course, I think it was a Bob Seger song. Bob, not Bob Seger, but... Bob Seger? Bob Seger. No, the other Seger. Pete Seger. The folklore communist. And it just came to mind because I was watching the American Masters story about Bob Dylan. American Masters story? Is that different from the movie currently out? No, American Masters is a PBS thing. It's on every week. They had one on Little Richard and Bob Dylan. Wow. And Bob Dylan was quite the character. Wait, wait, wait. Boomer Talk on the 8th. That's right, everybody. Boomer Talk. Hey, it was on TV just the other day, so it can't be there. Well, just the fact that you're watching TV is now Boomer Talk.

01:45 I gotta tell you, you know, I'm trying not to be irritated by it because obviously I don't feel like I'm a boomer. But because everyone knows it irritates me, it only exacerbates the problem. So they just think it's funny and they just keep doing it over and over. My kid, hey dad, boomer. Like, uh. I mean, you're used to it because, well, golly, you actually are a boomer. I'm a real boomer. There it is. I'm a real boomer. That should be a bogus cusp cusp cusp cusp boomer boomer adjacent as we say boomer you're Technically well if you listen to Go listen if you read that you know I'm sure you don't get any of this because even your Twitter your ex-handle is you know, it's not just John C Dvorak it's

02:37 The real Dvorak, whatever it is. No one can remember it. Your emails... It's so difficult. Yeah, Dvorak is tough for the non-boomers, trust me. You know, you don't get the email. I mean, it's... I mean, I'm literally getting emails, oh, enjoy sucking Trump off. I mean, that's literally the stuff I deal with every single day. Every single day. It's unbelievable. But this is new. No, it's not new. This is a... By the way, it's thanks to you. Thanks to you saying, you know, you brought up the Jew hate on the last show and then everyone blames me. It's unbelievable.

03:20 Well, you know... Yeah, you know what? You know what? AdamEdCurry.com is a lot easier to spell. This is... well, of course, this is my thesis. And this is the kind of dimwits that would write in, you know, they, I don't know how to spell curry. I think I can spell that because I had it for dinner. So listen to this. Here, I'll just give you a couple of examples. Gems. We're starting this show off with a bang. Yeah, we're starting with gems. I thought I was listening to the Mark Levin show there for a minute. With the ridiculous Dvorak's, they're all just Juuu Raiders line. This entire show was like Fox Boomer Slop. Kind of like that one.

04:06 It was good. Why would you straw man a concerns of Zionism with Jew hatred? I'm not sure what that means actually. I don't either. They spent the first hour calling anyone who doesn't want to send Israel their billions and billions per year anti-Semites and clarifying that Zionism is impossible and then cried the donations are slowing down because the low IQ boomers that eat this shit up are dying off. Who ever said that anyone's dying off? No, no, no, nor did we say I think that criticized saying Zionism is impossible. I don't think we ever said that. How's multipolar world order mean that China's suddenly gonna run the world and the US has to do things at the best of China? If the US can't compete without being a gangster, then the US deserves it. That's a good one. Adam Curry!

05:04 Why are you acting like the government of Israel isn't controlling us? Can't it be people within our government slash billionaires working for the benefit of Israel sometimes their interests overlap with the military industrial complex? Seriously, they lost me big time on this one. I haven't listened a ton but I always thought they were coming from a more conspiracy minded think outside the box angle. Seems like they took a sharp turn towards Boomer Con Inc. What? I know, I know, I know. It's crazy. But what is it, BoomerCon? Yeah, BoomerCon Inc. I don't know. I don't know. Like NeoCon, BoomerCon, I guess. Oh, BoomerCon, NeoCon, or maybe like Comicon. Yeah, in a way, BoomerCon, Comicon. Yeah, sure. Yeah, so we're having a big meetup. Can you imagine the BoomerCon meetup? Oh my goodness. That'd be great.

05:55 Where's the door? And he is my favorite. Ridiculous! You guys are taking money from Israel, it's obvious! Your analysis is too absurd! Where is this money? Your analysis is too absurd and biased to be believed as sincere. Just admit it and interview your daddy, BB. Wow. The thing that gets... Somebody actually wrote that. You're starting to write your own. No, I'm not making that up. You're sending it to yourself in your sleep. Your sleep writing. You can go right on my ex account and see it. It's all public. So the thing that baffles me though, the thing that baffles me is that maybe people haven't been listening for a long time, but we have always just given our opinion

06:48 no matter how harsh the blowback, no matter how harsh. And we've taken the blowback time and time again. And then, you know, years later people go, you know, you were kind of right about that. Mostly, right? I don't know. Was there anything that we really took a stand on that we were so incredibly wrong on? Never. Is this the one? Never. Is this the one? Finally, this is the one. No. So, I have a lot... It's the aircraft carrier. That's all there is to it. It's just that simple. What did that take a genius to figure it out? Well, this, you know, this is a very polarizing moment in America.

07:32 And I think, because I really, I was reflecting on this, you know, because you and I are indeed baffled. We're baffled by the, it's so obvious, history shows exactly what we have done to the state of Israel. You know, this was cooked up in 1974. I know it's a long time ago. admittedly even as a young boomer adjacent I wasn't quite politically aware at the time. But the history books do show that the US uses Israel for many things and many many bad things but also... Yeah well you know you have to do sometimes you have to crack an egg to make an omelet. Yeah you know so there's no doubt about that but what has crept into

08:22 the narrative, and this started several years ago with, so this is not new, but it started several years ago with No Agenda Social. If you recall, the whole reason that I said, hey, we got to disassociate from this. Well, it actually even began before that with No Agenda Forums. Yeah, but no, that wasn't about Israel. No Agenda Forums was... Yeah, you're right. No Agenda Social became a bunch of, yeah... It was the most blocked instance on the Fediverse because people were just going insane with their, literally Jew hate memes. That's what it was. But that's what it all, it always goes from Israel to, oh, there's another meme with a crook nose. Okay, very funny. But the more I look at this, the more I think about it, the more I see what's happening, which is really, it's really interesting how you have, I'd say non-political people on the right

09:19 Which is, I think that's pretty much, if you look at the old no-agenda, the no-authority crowd, they're not really political. They just think that Israel's running the show and of course, you know, they're blackmailing everybody in Congress and they run our policy and we're all doing everything at the behest of Israel. Yeah, we have to stop right there and assume that the reason for this thought Thank you. And I actually, now I've been thinking, it's been on my heart, it really has been. It's like, hey, I'm a sensitive guy, these things affect me. They couldn't imprison President Trump, they couldn't kill him. I think this is the new attack vector to literally rip apart support for President Trump. And this issue of Israel is dividing people who are not left.

10:18 But they're actually bringing them over to the, you know, the protesters at Columbia side. It's really, really interesting. So how do these two opposite sides of the spectrum unite? Now, personally, I'm sensitive to this issue because I grew up in the Netherlands. I played with kids and their grandmother would be there. She had numbers tattooed on her arm. And so I got a very different education in how Jew hate, how that got out of control. And when you think about it, when you think about Kanye West

10:58 and Nick Fuentes and all these people who are blaming every problem in America, every problem with our policy is Israel. It wouldn't take much for a different president or leader, could even be a Republican, to say, you know, Israel really is the problem. And it wouldn't take much to get people riled up because we are in accelerated idiocracy. That's my new version of AI. It's obvious that we are becoming stupid. But I'm pretty sure the people who do real psyops is the military-industrial complex. It's all about them. It always has been. When did Eisenhower do his speech? Was that before I was born?

11:40 Was that 1965? What year were you born? I forgot. Almost 1965, but okay. Oh no, no, it was, yeah, well, he was still in office. He left office in 60. Right, so this was his last speech, one of his last speeches around 59, I believe. Right, so before I was born, just listen to this. It's worth replaying this bit because there's some things in here that you need to pay attention to. This is history. American makers of plowshares could with time and as required make swords as well. But we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense. We have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women

12:28 are directly engaged in the defense establishment. Three and a half million back before 1960. Just imagine how many people now work directly or indirectly in the military-industrial complex. It must be at least tenfold. We annually spend on military security alone more than the net income of all United States corporations. Now this conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. It's new! The total influence, economic, political, even spiritual, is felt in every city, every statehouse, every office of the federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development, yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications.

13:25 Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved. So is the very structure of our society. In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. Note he's not saying Israel. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals.

14:16 So that security and liberty may prosper together. So really, and I got to talk about the military-industrial complex for a second here, and how I believe that it may even be the DIA, and it's very easy to sigh up on, and they do this all the time, they're proud of it. They're proud of what they do on social media. They're proud of the people they get on big podcast microphones. They love it. And they do this all the time. And if anything, they hide behind Israel with AIPAC because the money comes from the military-industrial complex. A reminder. Here's Massey, no friend of the Israel lobby, no friend even of President Trump, spelling it out very clearly where the money comes from and the money that goes to Israel does not go into Israel's coffers. There's no big giant Great Britain lobby, there's no Australian lobby, there's no German lobby. Oh, the other countries don't have them? No, no, not like this. This is singular, this is unique.

15:16 I mean, if you're an ally, why wouldn't we work with you? Why do you have to convince us that you're our ally? Why do you have to basically go into every congressional office and convince them? And it's because they want to keep the money flowing. And they've got a good return on their investment. I mean, we send more foreign aid to Israel than to any other country. They're like 10 million people or something. Yeah, I think Tennessee. I don't know this population in Tennessee, but it's probably about, you know, on that order. Yeah, I think this year they said we spent like $12 billion, but that's not actual dollars. It's in military aid, right? Yeah, it's well, it's it's dollars and commissions of the Treasury. Yeah, but it's not like we give them. It's a it's a gift certificate that's redeemable at Lockheed Martin and your local Raytheon, you know, okay, got it.

16:09 That's the point. And the military has always shaped our culture in Hollywood. They have the biggest budgets for the movies you see. Top Gun. Rocky. Remember the shake with wrestling? Come on. It's not it's not the Jews making up this idea This the military industrial complex has made the iron she iron. Thank you the I have his autograph on a photo I sit right by this I'm sure you do So what have we heard recently all the grids going down Chinese military aged men Russia's gonna take over all of Europe China is buying up all the land none of it none of it comes to fruition my

16:49 My own military industrial complex handlers tried this on me since this Iran thing rose. You know, Israel, because I know it. I know who they are. I know what they're sending me. And you know and I and I just ignore it and they stop eventually because like nah Curry he has no good I bet you every single good. This guy's no good, but we're also we are a new handler at him. We're irrelevant We're just two boomers who we are boomers on a podcast. We have about a million people and they're all Would you call them a fringe yeah?

17:25 They think for themselves anyway, so with or without us, they'd probably have their own opinions. However, if you and I weren't who we were, who we are right now, first of all, you'd have a Vinegar book and I would probably have Ryan Seacrest's career. But that's not who we are. I don't know why, but we're just like, no, I'm not interested in going along to get along. I've never done any of that. And I think that many people Podcasters, ironically, podcasters, they have audience capture and they see these, they get these messages, oh crap, well let me look into this, well yeah, what are we sending to Israel, blah. And they don't have A, the age and the knowledge of history or maybe even have cracked a book from time to time or gone back and looked at something like, we're just, we're,

18:19 Where did this really come from? So, and this op, I think is meant to undermine Trump. And Trump is making a big mistake. He should be honest with the American people and tell everybody really what's going on because now we have no, gone. Gone is the talk of immigration, inflation, even Russia, Ukraine is on the back burner, tariffs. None of this is important. And I think this op is is broad, it's been... Thought about someone smart is doing this Fox News it all clicked into place for me all of a sudden Of course Fox is run by the Democrats Democrats run Fox News So what do they do? They put that moron Levin on primetime hype him up He's got all the promos and all he's talking about is well, it's really that pisses everybody off It's it's a divisionary tactic

19:17 The same for the five, and I don't watch Greg Gutfeld. I'm sure he just does dumb jokes at night. And who and when did this really start? This started with Elon. And I think Elon's just weak. You know, whatever they did, Elon, look at this, Elon, see what we're doing. We're getting everyone to burn your cars. How much more can you stand, Elon? You better denounce Trump. One of the Doge guys, he's now moving over to Colorado, came to visit me before they left. And I said, you know, well this is about China and he said, no, no, AIPAC, AIPAC, it's Israel, they run the whole government, they got the goods in everybody. Which to me means that's what Doge was thinking, that's what Elon was thinking.

20:04 So all of this is working very, very well because you've got Marjorie Taylor Greene going on Tucker saying, oh, I'm sick and tired of Israel and Trump is, you know, what happened to him and it's all over. It is, it is, he, President Trump needs to come out and just say it. This was about China. And thank you to the Israelis, not Israel, not BB Netanyahu, thank you to the Mossad, you should say it, thank you to the Mossad because they helped us send the message loud and clear. And luckily I can find some compatriots in this. Mike Baker has a podcast and he had Stephen Yates on. I have a Mike Baker podcast clip today. Oh wow, okay. Well I'll play mine.

20:51 Well, mine is about, mine is a look when you're done with this little thing you're doing. Yes. Your little thing. My little thing I'm doing here. Your little thing. I'm gonna talk about the spooks on the podcast and the deconstruction of that phony baloney DIA memo. Oh, excellent. Which to me was also Complete DIA propaganda. Hey, we need to have more bombs. You gotta have more stuff. Gotta be worried. Oh sleeper cells, sleeper cells everywhere. Bull, bull crap. And by the way, Iranians really warm up to American culture.

21:33 Very much so. I'm reminded of an old Saturday Night Bit where these sleeper cells, this is from years ago, during, I forgot what period of terrorism it was, but the Saturday Night Bit was these sleeper cells were sitting, they were in Armonk, New York or someplace. Armonk. In a suburb and they got a call. Okay, it's time to take action. I got my wife and kids, I gotta go to a Little League game this afternoon. What are you doing here with me? Oh dude, remember when, was it just before Christmas? They were worried about a dirty bomb exploding and the guy was filming me for some Bitcoin documentary and he was calling up his kids and like, oh, I gotta get him out of New York. I gotta get him into the center of the country because of the dirty bomb. I don't remember what hoax that was.

22:29 And by the way, when you go after the Jews and Israel slash the Jews, you automatically go after the Christians. You see, because that's exactly what happened between Tucker and Ted Cruz, who was ill-prepared. No kidding. And the American church is weak. It's weak. They won't stand up and say, no, that's bull crap. It's weak. I would agree with that. Yes, it's very weak. There's people trying to... In fact, this recent Supreme Court's justice showed how weak the American church is. It was a Muslim

23:07 that pulled the plug on all the porn in grammar school. Yeah, I know. It was the Muslims that had the nerve to do it. The Christians didn't do anything about it. They're very confused and they've been beaten down by, you know, stuff like the separation clause, non-existent separation clause. So there's all kinds, we have a spiritual problem in America. There's not a political problem. So now I want to play, thank God we have Mike Baker and Stephen Yates to talk some sense into everybody about what really took place, which was China got a wake-up call from President Trump. In the immediate aftermath, we've heard very little from China.

23:49 What do you make of the Chinese reaction and mindset towards what's happened regarding Iran? Well, my first assumption is that they, like most of the world, including a lot of Americans, did not realize this was actually going to happen. And I think that they were probably thrown a bit when they saw the B-2s going to Guam. That is getting close to the area they like to operate in. And then all of a sudden, before they really get any other news, some things go boom, boom in Iran from another area. So a little bit of a head fake probably made them spin a bit.

24:27 But they also were a little high on their own supply in giving Pakistan some weapons and they thought that the recent skirmish between India and Pakistan saw Pakistan maybe besting some technology the Indians had. And all of a sudden, the world sees that American stealth technology actually works, that we can actually have an operation without leaks. And I think that probably put a pin in one of the balloons of China is on the rise, inevitably the next boss on the block, America's on decline, and you better make a deal with the new boss. So I bet they had a big, big, deep breath to contemplate what just happened.

25:09 And I mentioned, I think, four or five shows ago, be on the lookout for the term multipolar world because that's what this is about. And I will, I remain as an American, I'm glad because I don't want the Chinese running the show. Call me a douchebag, call me an imperialist, whatever. Best price is not my culture. So what is the relationship between Iran and China? Talk to me if you could about the extent, the nature of the relationship between Iran and China, and then also in context with China's response in the aftermath of the attacks. Are you surprised at their reaction? Which I mean, to me or to anybody who's not an expert on China, we look at it and go, that's pretty hands off from their perspective.

25:54 Well, yeah, because they have been giving a political narrative out to the world that together with Moscow and Tehran and maybe Pyongyang and a few others, they were trying to create this alternative universe that was going to be multipolar and balance against the bad Americans. And it was going to, they were going to have their own currency be a reserve currency, all this pie in the sky stuff about what they were going to do in the world. And so if you believe that narrative, and there's some truth to their trying to at least stoke those ideas, then this does look like conspicuous pulling back from someone who's supposed to be an ally getting walloped and you're like, whoa, you're on your own. I don't really know who you are.

26:38 But Iran's response by threatening to shut off the Straits of Hormuz, that was definite no-go zone for China because they are still very dependent on a lot of energy from the Gulf, not just buying a lot of Iranian oil, which they have done. But from other sources too. And so my guess is they were conveying that privately to Tehran. And I think that they did have a national interest in there not being a wider conflict because it would have a material impact on their economic forecast. They can't be the manufacturing supply platform for the world without that dose of natural gas and oil from the Gulf.

27:20 And so when President Trump comes out and says, hey, thanks to the IDF and the Mossad and BB and whatever. Yeah, he's right. It's always seemed that the Chinese regime has been giddy any time the US gets mired in some sort of overseas conflict. You know, again, if you go with the theory that the regime, the Chinese regime, always acts in its own best interests, they looked at it and said, well, it's not in our best interests if this thing escalates. Well, and I think they'll still play some politics, but basically they are a chaser, not a maker in this.

27:57 So, they see a situation... What do you mean by that? So, they're not driving events, they're chasing events. And so, when this breaks out, number one, Israel proves capable to do nearly miraculous things to the Iranians. That has to freak the Chinese out because Israel is not a major power Israel's not one of these poles in this balancing act that they thought they were going to try to Come out on top with this multipolar world And you know of course if the Israel has advanced technology they have been fighting they know how to fight they also Know how to do real intelligence

28:39 I think stunningly effective intelligence in the way these things played out. And all of that, I think, has to freak China out because if you look at what the Ukrainians were able to do with drones deep into Russia, and then you look what the Israelis were able to do deep into Iran, not just with drones, but human intelligence, placing people in vital positions. They had basically Tehran's complete playbook And they were striking with unbelievable precision where there's just a burnt black hole in one flat, in one building, killing one top military advisor. That's the kind of stuff that creeps the Chinese out that someone could do to them at some point. Exactly.

29:23 And I wish President Trump would just do a Ross Perot, come out, draw with your sharpie, say, look here, look people, here's what the world is like right now. Here are the options. This is what we're doing. Instead, and yes, you either have the military force or you don't. And all your reference to Ross Perot is lost on half the audience, but you're absolutely correct. Well, hello, Boomer talk on the eights. Explain what Ross Perot used to do. I'm still amazed that no one else has ever done this. Yeah, he used to buy half an hour of airtime on the networks when he was running as an independent.

28:39 I think stunningly effective intelligence in the way these things played out. And all of that, I think, has to freak China out because if you look at what the Ukrainians were able to do with drones deep into Russia, and then you look what the Israelis were able to do deep into Iran, not just with drones, but human intelligence, placing people in vital positions. They had basically Tehran's complete playbook And they were striking with unbelievable precision where there's just a burnt black hole in one flat, in one building, killing one top military advisor. That's the kind of stuff that creeps the Chinese out that someone could do to them at some point. Exactly.

29:23 And I wish President Trump would just do a Ross Perot, come out, draw with your sharpie, say, look here, look people, here's what the world is like right now. Here are the options. This is what we're doing. Instead, and yes, you either have the military force or you don't. And all your reference to Ross Perot is lost on half the audience, but you're absolutely correct. Well, hello, Boomer talk on the eights. Explain what Ross Perot used to do. I'm still amazed that no one else has ever done this. Yeah, he used to buy half an hour of airtime on the networks when he was running as an independent.

30:06 And he'd come out and then he'd say, all right, people, here's the money. Here's what we got. Here's what we owe. And he'd do it like a budget at home. But he'd also have he'd have these little drawings and he'd draw these little very good drawings that were obviously, you know, somebody else didn't. He just reproduced them. And he was he could have become president of the United States as a president, except until somebody showed him a picture. Yeah, well, they threatened his family, I think is what they did. When they kill you, when they kill your family, you don't get out of the way because he was really disrupting that election. So it was. So I think and I and by the way, I don't think President Trump is capable of doing something like that. He just he can't talk.

30:55 Which is a problem and I don't know where JD Vance is but JD Vance used to be the Trump whisperer and could explain it and translate that at least during the campaign. You know, so you get, what you get is you get conversations with Marjorie Taylor Greene and Tucker that go like this. Since I've become a member of Congress since 2021, we have voted on 22 resolutions for Israel. 22 of them. All kinds of resolutions. You know, denouncing anti-Semitism, supporting Israel. We voted on 22 of those. We never vote on resolutions proclaiming great things about America. By the way, a resolution is meaningless.

31:39 We do resolutions about a hundred things. They're stupid. It's a resolution. Yeah, we all agree on this. Yeah, we agree. Okay, we agree on it. It's just military-industrial complex nonsense and cover-up. When will people see this? ...defending certain Americans... Never! I hope... No, I have hopes for America. ...Americans in general. But we have voted on 22 resolutions in the House defending Israel. How many of you voted yes on? I don't know my exact record. The last one I voted no on and then the one before that I voted present because I just started getting sick of it. Well that's kind of it. I mean I never really, I've always noticed this certainly in the last

32:23 I don't know how many years it's been, a while where Republicans in the Congress are always talking about Israel. I'm not against Israel. I've always liked Israel, so I haven't really noticed it. Okay, fine. Love Israel, love any country, whatever. But it feels like something Has changed like why it clearly it has for you. What is that thing? Well, I think here's a situation It's coming to a point where it's so obvious all the time and everyone's language the social media posts They put out the statements that they make they have to proclaim Israel They have to proclaim their their faith and loyalty in Israel and how they you know Israel is our greatest ally and it's a statement that has to be made over and over and over again and

33:07 To the point it's becoming like wait a minute. What about our own country? What about our own people? That is the talking point that is she is doing exactly Exactly what they want her to do. It's spot on. Well, who's they? The military, the defense base the defense industrial base. Of course, they're abusing the Jews themselves. You guys just shut up for a minute. You're a bunch of intellectual bookish types. Shut up y'all, shut up. They were using you. We're gonna, you know, you shut up. We're gonna do this and that. And we're gonna hate on Israel for a while because it draws attention. There's some, it's too little, for my taste, it's a little too complicated. I think you might feel the same way by asking Trump to explain it when he's never going to explain it.

34:08 But the thing is when she says, well, hold on, what about us? Again, immigration. The president won the election on immigration. Inflation, down. What do eggs cost? I mean, tariffs. He is doing everything he said for America, including scurrying off the Chinese out of the Middle East and Africa. And Africa the Africa thing is interesting is the most interesting part of this I actually have the you know I have that clip here Sorry, I was gonna say by the way, we don't have any clips on this but all hell is breaking loose in Kenya

34:51 The Gen Z kids in Kenya of all places, Kenya, are... it just is out of control. Pride stuff? Is it pride stuff? No, no, it's not pride stuff. It's about taxes. Gen Z. So this is manga, Africa news. But they actually exactly well and we talked about this before anyone was talking about this truce The agreement signed Friday between Congo and Rwanda has been touted by many as a major step towards ending years of war in Congo's east but this analyst says mineral wealth is just one of the many drivers of conflict in the region and not the only one find also Western parties like the US have owned mind before in the

35:38 In the Eastern DRC, of course, during the Obama administration, they sold some of these mines to China. What? What? What? Obama sold some of those mines to China? In the Eastern DRC, of course, during the Obama administration, they sold some of these mines to China, which owns a lot of mines in the Eastern DRC. parties to the conflict to this day are still very focused on their interest in these mineral resources. While the agreement principally concerns the states of Congo and Rwanda, there are dozens of armed groups and proxy forces in the picture which could complicate any chances of a lasting peaceful solution. There's a disconnect between

36:22 the high-level peace building, the ones we see on TV, the Qatar process, the AU-led Luanda-Angola process. These peace processes have not led to any tangible agreement for over 30 years that this conflict has gone on and we are seeing that there's a gap. that these two high-level peace building and the grassroots peace building are not connecting. One of those groups is Rwanda-backed M23 with which Congo is holding separate talks mediated by Qatar. So it's not over. I mean, yeah, we've got the high-level peace. We're going to send military down there to keep the peace.

37:02 You know the thing that we do the Chinese don't do down there to Chinese have used all kinds of techniques and mostly in the form of bribery by we're gonna build roads we're gonna build a dam we're gonna do this we're gonna do that they put a bunch of Chinese laborers in there of course and So they can actually get the job done, but we we've been in Africa AFRICOM and bombing, more bombing going on down there over the years. The last few decades we've been bombing and we got people there. It's just never reported, nobody discusses it. Well, back to my original premise. Donald Trump don't trust China. China is asshole. That is what is going on here. And I'm just sad, I really am, that our own people

37:49 that they cannot get past the Israel thing and they just, they are so convinced because the op has been going on for years. It is, maybe it never even stopped after World War II as far as I'm concerned. But it has always been about military. Yeah, there's a lot of people who love killing people. A lot of people in our elite circles, a lot, there's definitely people in Congress who like killing people. They're sick. But I truly think President Trump knows what he's doing in this particular case. He also listens poorly. I would feel a lot better if he said, you know, that vaccine sucked.

38:33 You know? But instead, his ego gets in the way and he goes, Operation Warp Speed, I saved millions of lives. He hasn't brought Warp Speed up for a long time. Well, yeah, but he, Amaya Culpa, from time to time humanizes it. And he knows what happens when you start talking about vaccines. This is Kennedy's his front man for this Kennedy's doing what he can and every time he turns around he's slammed by people in Congress and everybody else for gonna kill us all if we don't have more vaccine Yeah, I got I got some stuff on that later, but also the Panama Canal, you know It was like that was for our benefit Everyone gets a nose out of joint pun intended

39:17 Yeah, oh, what's he doing now? He's doing it for America and I think indirectly for the world. And you know what? The EU, they're going to jump right into bed with bricks. They are weak. Queen Ursula is already talking about a new WTO. You know, well, we got to, you know, we got to avoid the mistakes of the past. They're going to be completely owned and run by Chinese culture, culture of surveillance. Now I think we're still kind of fighting it here, kind of. Maybe lost. Well I don't take such a dim view of that. Of the EU? I think the latest BRICS conference, Putin and Xi, neither one of them showed up. Well of course not. Left the rest of them hanging. When was the conference? It was just like a couple days ago. Yeah, gee is that a coincidence? Well it's not a coincidence at all, but the point is that we put a little pressure on the situation by being

40:11 ourselves, and the next thing you know these guys are bailing out of their own operation. Right. So I don't see the Europeans, yeah I agree they're weak, but they're not going with this crap. I hope not, but they're pretty far down the road as far as I'm concerned. So anyway, let's... Well they are with the surveillance state, that's got to stop. Yeah, it's too far. They love it. I mean the Brits are completely out of control. Yeah, so you know, and it's all funny and we can all do memes, but people in the UK are, they're beside themselves. Like what has happened? What has happened to our country? Well, Ireland is another example.

40:57 And it all just kind of gets swept under the rug. So this president has done amazing things. Please try and not get so hung up on this Israel meme. You know, oh they're killing... Yeah, Israel sucks. What they're doing in Palestine to the Palestinians. There's no country Palestine. I even fall for it myself. But why won't any other country in the Middle East take the Palestinians? You know, so it's... use your... use your noggin from time to time. You can yell at me all you want. And I advise it.

41:39 And by the way, I'd say to the American church, you've got to get out there. You've got to calm people down. You've got to bring people to Jesus. Otherwise we're lost. Nothing else can save us. All right, go into your DIA stuff. I don't think that's just, I think you're taking a dim view. Yeah. So the DIA leak was interesting because it brought me to these guys that do, that are ex-spooks, including Mike Baker. who are doing these analysis, they're doing these analysis podcasts, which I think are generally speaking not as good as they could be. But I did discover the Right Report. And I think this guy, who's very happy with his voice, he really thinks he should be a broadcaster. Oh, does he puke a lot? Well, that's pretty close to it. And Baker and him kind of have competing podcasts, and Baker,

42:33 actually has the president's daily briefing. The other guy started his podcast and called it the president's daily briefing that quickly changed into the Wright Report because of... these things do happen. No way, but the clip I got from him was from the presidential daily briefing. Yes, because Baker has that. It's the other guy who had the president's daily briefing after Baker already established it. But he didn't know about Baker's or something. I don't know how that happened. Oh, podcast wars! Podcast wars! A little podcast war is going on. So he changed it from the president's daily briefing to the Wright Report.

43:10 They both discussed, and I thought it was interesting because I think Wright is a little spookier than Baker. Baker's more of a... I mean, Baker's... he comes on gut-filled quite a bit and he plays the CIA spook on the show and they defer to him a lot for that. He doesn't really bring much spy craft to the show, and he doesn't do his, even to his own show, he does some good interviews like the one you played, but he doesn't give us any insight or any feelings toward, you don't get the impression that he's currently really that. You get the sense that he's just doing the news. And so his daily briefing is not, I don't think is that valuable of a piece of podcasting, but

43:58 Let's listen to what Mike Baker talks about when he talks about it, got a little clip here on it. He went on for 15 minutes about the DIA leak, but it was mostly, and this, we're talking about that leaked memo, which they're trying to track down who leaked it. I think it's a congressman. And Jesse Watters says he thinks he knows who it is, exactly, someone in the intelligence committee. Baker goes on forever about it, and he never this is pretty much what he says over and over again This is his take on it. This is DI leak DI a leak by Mike Baker Yes, okay. Is that the assessment was labeled quote low confidence and in intelligence speak well That's an important descriptor a low confidence assessment means analysts don't have enough verified high-quality information To reach a solid conclusion. It's a he's running to Casey Kasem and

44:58 He sounds almost like AI. Yes, he does sound like AI, but he this is his that's his read he he This is he I can't explain what he's trying to do, but he's trying to sound like a long-distance dedication The problem I have with the modern, some of these guys, they're using techniques, radio announcer techniques from the 50s. And they're trying to sound like an old radio announcer and it just doesn't work anymore. The voice, the natural voice is like the ones

45:34 The ones like I employ where I stutter and stammer and I can't pronounce things correctly and I can't type right. It's just like it's an amateur hour sound that really has the current modern appeal. And now we go to Mike Baker talking about the DIA leak on the right. report. A low confidence assessment. No, he's not on the right report. Now, whatever, guys, whatever. Right. The other report. Analysts don't have enough verified high quality information to reach a solid conclusion. It's essentially educated guesswork. The evidence may be thin, contradictory or based on sources that aren't fully vetted. It doesn't mean that the report is necessarily wrong but it does mean that it's speculative. Analysts are essentially saying, look, this is one possible interpretation but we're not betting all the marbles on it. So when a report like that gets leaked while still being categorized as low confidence, well, it's a major red flag.

46:30 It's not supposed to be treated as fact, it's supposed to be kept in-house while the full picture develops. Second point, the timing and framing of this leak raises serious questions about motive. This wasn't a full review, it was a preliminary snapshot, likely updated daily as new intelligence comes in. Yet someone chose to leak it just days after the strikes, and they did so in a way that cast doubt on the mission's success. suggests someone wanted to get ahead of the official narrative, maybe to discredit the administration, maybe to apply political pressure, or maybe for whatever reason to create confusion. And for whatever that reason may be, selectively leaking a speculative early-stage report is a classic move in the world of information warfare.

47:16 The ultimate truth on this matter is that we won't know the full extent of the damage or the status of Iran's nuclear program for weeks, maybe even months, until inspectors can get back on the ground. And frankly, that's always provided a limited view anyway. And until more intelligence is gathered from credible human sources with access, well, everything else is just guesswork. So here's what bugs me about this. Besides the fact that he's reading it? Yeah, it doesn't matter. The mission was send a message to China. Don't go there. This is not what we're talking about. I understand. But you can bring that up after I bring up the other stuff. And the second thing, I think it was a big mistake to have Hegseth

48:02 Who's lost his marbles? This is really it this is the most disappointing guy because he's a Professional broadcaster. Why don't you bring out some dude with a lot of fruit salad? You know, it's like well, you know we are When Kane came out he pushed him aside peg Seth mugged the stage and The Hegseth is the problem. He's the lightning rod. No, they should have brought Corilla out. Anybody but Hegseth. It was a mistake. Okay, that's a nice aside. But let's go back to the point here. Okay. All right. We got these two spooks doing podcasts. Hey, what about us? Aren't we two spooks doing a podcast? We're not spooks. That's the problem. That's the problem. We're just independents.

48:54 It's not a problem, believe me. So Wright, he's better and you'll see, and I think he's read in and I think he's He's actually still on the payroll because in the second clip, I got two clips from him discussing this DIA thing. On the second clip, you tell me he's not working for somebody when he comes up with what he says, but let's listen to his intro. Now, you're gonna, if you didn't like Mike Baker's presentation, you're gonna hate this guy, because he's over the top with his phony baloney announcer voice and his ridiculous modulation.

49:34 over the you know just crazy modulation but his his analysis of the DIA leak is far superior Axios News and the Washington Free Beacon report that the Intel assessment from the Defense Intelligence Agency that of course suggested that these strikes on Iran fell short Well, that assessment was actually based on bad intel and bad judgment. Here's what we know. Let's go to the video tape. In this case, they used captured phone calls from Iranian nuclear and military personnel who were calling back into headquarters elements to provide situation reports or sit-reps. Well, that was a problem for a couple reasons. First, these Iranians knew or suspected that their phones were being tapped. So they were feeding false information into their phone calls hoping that the West would pick it up and think it was real. And allegedly, that is what happened.

50:34 Second, other personnel in Iran were relaying good news only back to their regime headquarters because they didn't want to be candid about how bad things were really out there in the field back to their senior leaders. And that is the other stream of intel used by the DIA analysts, just inaccurate. So when the subsequent DIA report was leaked, Israeli officials were working on their own assessment and they saw it and they were totally befuddled. Their sources on the ground in Iran knew that Operation Midnight Hammer was a great success. Plus, the folks at Mossad knew that some Iranian military personnel were trying to feed disinformation using their phones. In fact, they had been for some time. So Mossad was very careful about not consuming the bad intel or mixing it in with the good. Oh brother, spy versus spy story here. Yeah, but this makes me think this guy's a little more in tune than Baker, who I think is just a news reader.

51:31 So now to convince you, or at least to convince me that this guy is definitely CIA is what he comes up with his solution to the problem of correcting this disastrous report in part two. Unfortunately, the analysts at the Defense Intel Agency were not so careful nor professional. They wrote it up all as true, slapped on a low confidence assessment and off it went, uncoordinated with other US Intel partners who might have been a little bit more professional. And that's when it leaked. While the Israelis continue to believe that last weekend strikes have profoundly degraded Iran's nuclear program, they're still collecting Intel and have yet to create their own battle damage assessment like the DIAs that was leaked.

52:21 And that is because as one Israeli official explained to Axios News, quote, a professional battle damage assessment takes time, end quote. Well, that is true and that is apparently something lost on the Iran analysts at the DIA. Pivoting to quick analysis and opinion, here is what I would advise President Trump to do. First, the head of the DIA, he's got to go, he's got to be fired. It's a Lieutenant General Jeffrey Cruz. He might be a wonderful man, but look, the buck stops with him. Second, the heads of the analytical components involved in this report should be fired effective immediately. Third, every single person who wrote, edited or coordinated on this DIA product has got to be placed on unpaid leave effective immediately.

53:04 The point all in is that we have got to freeze the DIA's Iran shop at least so that they don't do further damage to the intel community or more importantly our national security. So all that is true but I got to tell you there's something else. Based on my time in the intel community there is something very rotten going on inside of the DIA. This trash report did not get drafted, edited and released by otherwise good people who were just trying to do the good thing. No. This report violated basic analytical tradecraft. It's the stuff that you would learn on day one as an analyst. They did the opposite. They just threw that stuff out. So that means that this report was not just some accident. It was so bad, it was willful.

53:50 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I liked it. Yeah, we got too many intelligence agencies. Oh, you kidding? No, much of that. Like what? 17 agencies are all fighting with each other and they all want the money. All the money. Yeah. Yeah. You saw that in that thing. You fire that guy. I looked at guy up and he looks like a bonehead. He's a Biden appointee. In fact, he's one of the few people I've seen where you look him up in the wiki page. And it actually says under the picture of him, you know, they have the little rundown. It says under the picture of him, I've never seen this on anybody, any generals or anything else, it says under the picture it says affiliation, Joe Biden. What is that supposed to mean? It's a Wikipedia thing, man, I don't know. I don't know.

54:38 Yeah, well, it's all a mess. And I hate to say it, I always thought DIA was better. But they suck just as bad. They are responsible for so much bullcrap. I think we both thought DIA was better, but it's obvious they're not. No, no. And I think Navy intelligence still stays away from them. Yeah, well that's Bannon though. There's your Navy intelligence. Yeah, well there's that. But there's also the Woodward Navy Intelligence. Yeah, by the way I got a note from Sir Jake. He says that the word is that Trump has forbid Hegseth from drinking while he's Secretary of Defense.

55:25 And that means that everybody's grumpy because there's no booze at all at any of the events. Oh, that's interesting. That could be why he's on edge. He's probably a guy who likes to take the edge off with a couple of belts at night. A little bourbon there. I can see him with a couple of belts. with bourbon on the rocks would be what it would be on a tumbler. In the tumbler. And he has now he can't drink because you know he'll follow orders he won't drink. And now he's grumpy. So that's what that counts on. Going after poor Jennifer, my favorite analyst on Fox, Jennifer Watson. Now we have to always take into account that

56:07 from the Iranians slash Persians who we know the boots on the ground we get that there is a always a very a lot of conviction in Iran that that Iran and America work together and create nice theater for different reasons under different presidents and Iran is not like one big Muslim country I mean it's like they're an amalgam of all kinds of people but anyway here's there's a number of ethnic groups within the country sure Here's Hegseth doubling down as now the Khamenei has come out and said, you know, something. How destructive were the US airstrikes on Iran? Did they completely destroy the facilities and obliterate Iran's nuclear capabilities as the Trump administration continues to claim? Or did they only set it back a few months as a leaked report from the intelligence arm of the Pentagon asserts?

57:03 When asked about whether any of the nuclear material was moved before the strikes, the US Secretary of Defense lashed out. There's been a lot of discussion about what happened and what didn't happen. Shut back for a second. Because of decisive military action, President Trump created the conditions to end the war, decimating, choose your word. Whoops, decimating, whoops, whoops. Obliterating, destroying. Iran's nuclear capabilities. Adding to the confusion, the director of the CIA, John Ratcliffe, now says the strikes did destroy key sites, but stopped short of declaring that Iran's nuclear program was wiped out. Meanwhile, the Financial Times is reporting that preliminary intelligence assessments provided to European government indicate that Iran's stockpile of uranium was not concentrated at Fordow at the time of last week's attack.

57:55 but had already been moved to other locations. This comes as Tehran acknowledged its facilities sustained significant damage. However, in his first remarks since Iran's ceasefire with Israel, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei asserted that the United States had gained nothing. They attacked our nuclear facilities, which would of course merit criminal prosecution in international courts, but they didn't achieve anything significant. The US president exaggerated events in an unusual way, and it turned out he needed this exaggeration. Everyone who heard these words understood there's another truth behind it. They could not achieve the objective they set for themselves. The only way to know for sure is with on-site inspection, but Tehran has just passed a law ending cooperation with the International Atomic Energy Agency. The global nuclear watchdog says it's yet to receive any official notification on the matter. By the way, Rob the constitutional lawyer,

58:56 did what I asked him to do. He gave us a 353 word report summary on if President Trump committed a war crime and also added to that a short rundown on the authorized use of military force. And you have to know Rob was a jag, so he comes from the business. And no, of course not. Of course it was not a war crime, under the Geneva Convention. But that's in the show notes under Iran if you want to go take a look at that. Even 353 words will be too long to read on the show. I like the fact that Khomeini has become slightly a Baghdad Bob. Yeah.

59:37 Yeah, a little bit. But yeah, what's always jarring to me is he has that picture of himself in the background. No, that's no, that's that's the original guy. Oh, that's the OG guy. I'm like, wow, he looked a lot better in the picture. Yeah, no, that's the, that's the money. Oh, that's the OG guy. Okay. Yeah. Well, I'd say we can go back to business and we can go back and what are we fighting with Canada now? I think we're fighting with Canada. Yes, well, I don't know what that's about that's some sort of I have a strange distraction I yeah plague plague cuz there's no explanation for it Carney didn't never came out and said why he's doing it. Oh, no I have I have him. Oh, yeah, okay? Oh, yeah, you'll be surprised

1:00:22 Canada's digital services tax on foreign tech giants has sparked a fierce US backlash, with Donald Trump deciding to halt all trade talks with Ottawa. In a post on Truth Social, the US president called Canada's decision a direct and blatant attack on the US, accusing it of copying the European countries' actions and warning of a new tariff response. Based on this egregious tax, we are hereby terminating all discussions on trade with Canada, effective immediately. We will let Canada know the tariff that they will be paying to do business with the United States of America within the next seven day period. I'm always so disappointed they don't read the thank you for your attention to this matter line of the tweet but okay. Canada's digital services tax which is set to take effect on Monday is a new levy expected to cost the largest American tech giants billions of dollars

1:01:20 Companies like Amazon, Google, Uber and Airbnb offering digital services and earning over $20 million in revenue from Canadian sources will be taxed 3% on the money they make from Canadian users and customers. The decision comes as Canada and the US were deep in negotiation to eased Trump's 25% tariffs on Canadian goods, which within months had resulted in major economic dislocations, job losses and a drop in southbound exports. But the two leaders who met at the G7 in Alberta last week agreed to solve the trade dispute within 30 days.

1:01:59 The Canadian Prime Minister spoke to reporters assuring that despite Trump's recent decision, Canada would not back down. We'll continue to conduct these complex negotiations in the best interest of Canadians. It's negotiation. That's all that it is. Carney thinks he can play the Trump game. Okay. They'll be fun to watch. Okay, that's exactly what it is. Yeah, he's like, oh yeah, I could do that. He pulls this stunt, I'll do the same thing. I could negotiate. So at least he's trying, I'll give him that, you know, it's like, oh yeah, that's just boot negotiating, you know, this is what you do in negotiation. Queen Ursula, now, she's way, way outside of her lane. I briefed leaders on the current state of play in our trade talks with the United States.

1:02:45 President Trump and I had a good discussion at the G7 summit in Canada. Back then we agreed to speed up the work with a clear goal, an agreement before the 9th of July. Today we received the latest US document for further negotiations. We are assessing it as we speak right now. So our message today is clear. We are ready for a deal. At the same time we are preparing for the possibility that no satisfactory agreement is reached. This is why we consulted on a rebalancing list and we will defend the European interest as needed. In short, all options remain on the table. She is technocrat. This is not gonna work. All options remain on the table. No, you got to do something like Carney did. You know, be a douche.

1:03:44 That's not how it's not going to work. She's no good. No, she's no good. Meanwhile, it's like the Supreme Court of the United States just woke up and went, oh, you know, we should probably look at some of that stuff. Yeah, maybe, maybe nationwide injunctions aren't really something that should happen. I think this is amazing. Republicans and Democrats have both complained about this in the past. Of course they have. But they would have continued to do this had they not overdone it. Yes, yes, exactly. Well, here's the report. This is such a big day. The Supreme Court ruled federal district courts issuing nationwide injunctions likely exceeded the authority granted to them by Congress.

1:04:34 The issue was brought to the court in the case over President Trump's executive order ending birthright citizenship and challenged the ability of one court to put a countrywide hold on an executive order. It gives power back to people that should have it, including Congress, including the presidency. 94 districts. And 35 out of the 40 opinions with nationwide injunctions came from five liberal districts in this country. No longer. California is one of those five districts referenced. And during the Trump administration news conference, California Attorney General Rob Bonta joined attorneys general from other states to call for a nationwide injunction.

1:05:19 I'm hopeful that the court will see that a patchwork of state injunctions where birthright citizenship stands for some states but not others would inevitably create administrative chaos, sparking widespread confusion and spurring questions we don't have the answers to. California Governor Gavin Newsom issued this statement saying in part, while the executive order is still temporarily blocked from going into effect, the decision is deeply disappointing. Loyola Law Professor Jessica Levinson predicts how this plays out in the short term. The Trump administration is going to go back to federal district judges that issued these nationwide injunctions

1:05:55 and say, you don't have the power to do this. You need to provide more limited relief. I think at the same time, those who have challenged the president's executive orders will very quickly try to refashion their suits so that they are asking instead for something like relief under a class action status instead. Yeah. More lawfare class actions. Yeah. Probably, they're gonna use that as the next thing, but those are harder to do. I have John Yoo. Oh, good old John Yoo. Who I think summarizes better than anybody else, for good reason. Here he is with, he's on Fox talking about the Supreme Court action. I have two clips. Let's start with nationwide injunctions by these district judges. Where are we on that after this ruling?

1:06:48 dead, 100% dead. The Supreme Court has said now definitively, district judges, of which there are about 700 around the country and every major city, they can decide the cases before them. They can give remedies like injunctions to the parties in the courtroom. But what they can't do is impose it against the government throughout the entire country at once. Really, that's the Supreme Court's job. And so what the court has said is, yes, it's going to be possible now for the birthright citizenship order to be struck down in Boston, but still upheld in Texas. That it might still be possible for people to get passports in Boston who might not get them in Texas.

1:07:30 But, that's the job of the Supreme Court to resolve that conflict. It's not the job of any individual district trial judge to do. So this is a really big win for the presidency, not just Donald Trump, but the presidency. Because what the court has also respected here is that the president is elected by the American people to carry out an agenda. And it's important and right for him to be able to pursue that throughout the country at once. And you're so right that this has been, you know, presidents from both parties have always complained about this. And President Trump finally did something about it. I think that's pretty cool.

1:08:09 for murder. Well they had to because they were abusing it with him. Yeah well. And that's what brought it to a head. This could have gone on forever if these guys hadn't gotten carried away. We had a good thing going guys. What did you do? They had a good thing going until they abused it. Now the thing about this is they also went after Judge Jackson. Oh everyone hates her now. She's dumb. She's dumb. dumb and they're really going after it everywhere. There's a there's a I didn't clip it because it's five minutes long, but it's five minutes of her saying, I don't understand. Yeah, we all saw the super cut every case in the for the last one year. And I don't understand this. I don't know. She's just makes us sound stupid. But she is called out on this by you.

1:08:54 Now, not by you, but you was presented with one of the comments that she made and these two guys, these robbers on Fox, they laugh about it. It's a pretty funny little bit. But I think that the fact that the court in the decision called out Jackson and then everyone signed off on it, this was a rebuke. And people have to realize that's what it was. She was not following the principles of the way the court's supposed to act. And she was freelancing and I had got a letter from somebody, you guys are mean about this. It's because... Wait, you got one of those? I can't believe someone spelled your name right. That's amazing. It's like she went off the rails and started talking about it. I looked at her opinion, which was separate.

1:09:49 She was, you know, talking about this and that. She was being philosophical to an extreme and it wasn't really following the way they want things done. And so they rebuked her and I thought this was a funny clip. Amy Coney Barrett wrote the majority opinion and I thought that this clause from it was really interesting. She wrote, quote, we will not dwell on Justice Jackson's argument, which is at odds with more than two centuries worth of precedent, not to mention the Constitution itself. We observe only this, Justice Jackson decries an imperial executive while embracing an imperial judiciary. Smack.

1:10:31 Oh boy, I'm glad I'm not there right now. I'm sure they're going to be great friends afterwards, especially when they need each other for the fifth vote on one of their cases. But Justice Jackson's dissent, I have to say, I thought was a little over the top. She's basically saying this is the collapse of the rule of law. You're going to have irresponsible presidents defying the rule of law, doing what they want, and the courts, no one's going to stop them. I don't think that's quite right. In the long run as a legal issue, not that important. It's important as a political issue for the effect it has on the government, its ability to pursue law. But this is actually the judiciary restraining itself, saying we're only going to apply our powers to the cases before us. We're not

1:11:16 here as a judiciary to run the whole government. And so who benefits from that? Presidents do, but presidents are democratically accountable and electable. The American people who are watching this show, listening to you, John, they should not think that the rule of law is collapsing all around them. It's not happening. Basically, things are going to function normally. This is just really a narrow legal issue about the power of individual trial judges. The Supreme Court's always there, and they're going to decide these questions in the end. Yeah. I thought that was a good summation. Yeah, it was good. But here's a... I have a little update from the troll room just to give you an idea of what I get. Ready? Do you want to... Always. Do you want a voice? Do you want a voice? Or should I just read it straight? It's never that funny when I read it straight. Yeah, you might as well do the voice. Smokin' Cheese is my name! Smokin' Cheese!

1:12:08 Adam's love of Trump is going to backfire on him. I love how they think I love Trump. I love Trump. Trump is waging war for the Zios while cutting taxes for the billionaire class and then printing money to pay for it and then taxing everyone else by inserting tariffs and stealing from Social Security and Medicare while creating legal mechanisms to jail and deport US citizens. Wow. Dude, no US citizen's been jailed. He's in the wrong troll room, man. Yeah, he's got to go over to Blue Sky, dude. It really did. I probably is the dude from Blue Sky. I have one. I go to Blue Sky once a month. I want to mention something that he said, that guy, is that I think Mamdavi, this New York guy, I think it's possible

1:13:02 The more I've been looking at this character, he has a bunch of interesting opinions that I think... and I think people are misjudging him. They keep calling him a socialist, a socialist. He calls himself a democrat socialist and he's got socialist communist ideas. But he's not a socialist, he is a populist. He is the Democrat version of Trump. This is what they wanted. This is what's so beautiful about him. Yes. Now this is what they wanted, I agree with that for sure because that's what they keep talking about. So they got this guy. If he, and I think he will get in,

1:13:39 Because I know what they're gonna do with Eric Adams. They're gonna say, well he's cooperating with ICE, he's cooperating with Trump, we hate Trump. And they hate Trump in New York, so this guy can get in. And if he doesn't completely screw the pooch in New York, in other words, he manages to do a balancing act and become a reasonably not a disaster mayor, That approach of his could become super popular. Oh, interesting. Yeah, so this is all over the top, but he may actually be much more moderate and maybe the buses will be free.

1:14:20 and the buses might be free, and he has got this one thing in his craw that only comes up once in a while, but if you read into it enough, he doesn't think any billionaire should exist in the country. That is an extremely populist idea. If I was one of those rich Democrats, you know, that most billionaires are Democrats people, I'd be like, yeah, great. You better start finding ways to hide your money. It's just so beautiful because, and he may, that's a very good point. That's a very good point. That could be the popular, the Democrat Party's version of a populist who then dials it way back. But I don't know.

1:15:06 I mean, to me, this is everything that the Democrat part, every talking point is this guy. Yeah. Every talking point. And then they got this guy. And then, you know, Tina and I were at some Mexican place having lunch yesterday. And I love the Mexican restaurants. I got a million TV screens all on Fox. The TV screens, none of them are at the same height. There's something about Mexican culture. I just notice it all the time. Straight, there's nothing as straight. This is always a little crooked. Have you noticed that? Well, that's an interesting observation. When you go to Mexico, which I used to do a lot when I was younger, you know, they'd have all these... I always noticed that these half-built houses all the way down to Ensenada, all the way to the tip. Yeah. There's just these half-built houses and I asked somebody, some Mexican guy, oh yeah. He says, yeah, you want it that way. You want your half-built house because they don't start taxing it until it's done.

1:16:03 So you just so everything is like, you know, got a kind of a funny quality. So it's and you're right. Yes. I noticed it's not they're not into like the long straight line. No, they don't. It's not their culture, which is fine. But I just love seeing three TV screens, big screens on the wall and none of them at the same height. I'm like, I don't get it. Anyway, and you saw all the Democrats going, oh, what are we gonna do? And the rich Democrats of New York, oh, what are we gonna do? There's the guy who owns the supermarkets. He's on Fox Business. I'm closing down my supermarkets. I'm not gonna let the government run my supermarkets. Okay, bro, sure.

1:16:41 So it's just a fun fight. Then, you know, Fredericksburg. Oh, I'm never going to New York again. New York is lost. It's lost. Like New York's been lost forever. Although my neighbors, Claudia, she's a hospitalist. You know, she she takes care of all. She's really in charge of the patient. She's kind of the patient advocate. And she was out walking her two little dogs. These things like barking little things. And she's from Dominican Republic and she's with her boyfriend, he's ex-military and her brother and a million kids. They're all walking the dogs on the streets like, we're in New York and then all of a sudden we saw the bombs dropping and we're like, what are we going to do? And they went into the hotel room and just stayed there and like, we're so worried about everything. I'm like, yeah, that's exactly what happens to people. They get so freaked out because they're just watching Fox News or MSNBC. It doesn't really matter what you're watching.

1:17:39 I'm glad we got back to Texas. Got TV. Yes, got TV. Exactly. So then the Supreme Court made a very interesting ruling, which I, in principle, I agree with the ruling. I don't think it curtails the free speech of adults. But more importantly, I think it moves closer towards what I have always said is going to happen. And that will be the end of anonymity on the Internet. The other big news here today, the United States Supreme Court has upheld a Texas law that requires pornographic websites to conduct age verification of its users. This ruling is one of the final decisions

1:18:18 of the term handed down by the nation's highest court earlier today. With that, let's bring in ION Politics reporter Jack Fink, talk about it a little bit, especially about the impact of this decision today and what else does this legislation do? Well, Doug, this two-year-old Texas law has been held up in the courts, but now because the U.S. Supreme Court has backed the state of Texas, it can go into effect. As you said, pornographic websites will now have to have some form of age verification for its users or customers. To be considered pornographic, the sites have to have more than a third of their content as sexual in nature. The law allows the Texas Attorney General's Office to enforce this ruling, investigate any potential violations and complaints, and assess fines as well. The author of this bill that became law, Republican State Representative Matt Shaheen of Prosper, called it a triumph.

1:19:08 This was a clear victory for Texas children. It was pornographic websites against our Texas families and the Supreme Court sided with our Texas family. So it's a great day for Texas in protecting our children from this smut. In a statement opposing the ruling, Alison Bowden, executive director of the Free Speech Coalition said, quote, This of course is completely ridiculous that, you know, somehow

1:19:47 People won't be able to get around a Texas block or whatever with a VPN like kids are stupid But it's really about identification For your it'll be about you want to get on the internet. You've got to have to ID yourself everywhere you go and I find the one-third Rule to be very interesting. I know that's so stupid I mean the first thing you do say I had this I want to run a porn site. So I want to have a I have to beat this one third rule. So I have a porn site, I load it up with terabytes full of PDF files that are just random about oceanography. And then if you click on this one link, you get my 120% of the rest of it is porn.

1:20:35 No, and the oceanography stuff, 80%, it's not going to be using bandwidth or anything because nobody's going to go to that stuff. So the point, this is dumb. But it's not about that. And by the way... No, I know. You have this thesis. I have to say you have kept this thesis alive in your... Because it's going to happen. It's going to happen. It's going to happen. It might, but it's not happening anytime soon. Oh, please. Oh, ye of little faith. But I'm happening anytime. I will say and this is not the fix for it. But the but porn addiction is a real thing. There are so many young men and women completely, completely addicted to porn. Yeah, we've talked about this before. And it's it's a real problem.

1:21:25 Then it ruins everything. Ruins relationships. People get addicted to gambling, they get addicted to porn, addicted to smoking. Yes, absolutely. People have a... People have... Yeah, people have... I could only get 29 second report of this, it just kind of flew by, couldn't even get the first Washington on there. Post journalist is facing some serious charges tonight. 48 year old Thomas LeGrow was arrested at his DC home Thursday. He's accused of possessing child pornography. FBI agents say they found explicit videos on his laptop and what looked like a broken hard drive in his basement. Legro's name also came up in an investigation involving online payments for illegal content. He is now on leave from the Post where he oversaw video content. His detention hearing is set for Monday.

1:22:15 Yeah, they kind of miss the fact that he won a Pulitzer Prize. That's great. I would like to hear more about that, but before we leave this topic about what would happen with the Supreme Court. There's more from the Supreme Court. We have to visit Brooks and Capehart. Can I do one more Supreme Court ruling before? Oh yes, please, because the Brooks and Capehart will top it all. Oh yeah, I'm sure. Well, this is just factual and, you know... It's so interesting that, you know, of course all the ads like, oh, the Republicans, the big beautiful bill, which has some stuff on too, we can do it later.

1:21:25 Then it ruins everything. Ruins relationships. People get addicted to gambling, they get addicted to porn, addicted to smoking. Yes, absolutely. People have a... People have... Yeah, people have... I could only get 29 second report of this, it just kind of flew by, couldn't even get the first Washington on there. Post journalist is facing some serious charges tonight. 48 year old Thomas LeGrow was arrested at his DC home Thursday. He's accused of possessing child pornography. FBI agents say they found explicit videos on his laptop and what looked like a broken hard drive in his basement. Legro's name also came up in an investigation involving online payments for illegal content. He is now on leave from the Post where he oversaw video content. His detention hearing is set for Monday.

1:22:15 Yeah, they kind of miss the fact that he won a Pulitzer Prize. That's great. I would like to hear more about that, but before we leave this topic about what would happen with the Supreme Court. There's more from the Supreme Court. We have to visit Brooks and Capehart. Can I do one more Supreme Court ruling before? Oh yes, please, because the Brooks and Capehart will top it all. Oh yeah, I'm sure. Well, this is just factual and, you know... It's so interesting that, you know, of course all the ads like, oh, the Republicans, the big beautiful bill, which has some stuff on too, we can do it later.

1:22:52 You know, they're going to cut Medicare, Medicaid, you're going to die, you won't have anything. Well, this is one of the ways they're cutting. Tessa, the state first pulled Medicaid funding from Planned Parenthood in 2018 because it provided abortions. With this new ruling, states can now cut off Medicaid dollars to the provider even for health care unrelated to ending a pregnancy. Justice Jackson, in her dissent. This is the lady from Planned Parenthood. If individuals don't have rights to sue to protect their own rights, then civil rights means nothing. And we would agree with that. In response to the Supreme Court decision, Governor Henry McMaster sharing a statement on X saying, quote, seven years ago, we took a stand to protect the sanctity of life and defend South Carolina's authority and values. And today we are finally victorious, end quote.

1:23:50 Vicki Ringer with Planned Parenthood South Atlantic says only 3.5% of South Carolina patients are on Medicaid and the ruling won't impact services. The good news for patients in South Carolina is that nothing will change for them. We will continue to treat South Carolina patients who use Medicaid as their insurance plan. We just won't bill them for it or bill Medicaid. They can continue to get their care for as long as we can cover it without charge. This one ruling and this one political decision from the governor or the legislature

1:24:32 will not force us to close our doors. To clear up misconceptions, Ringer clarifies that according to federal law, Medicaid can only pay for an abortion in the case of rape, incest, or to preserve the mother's life. You know, the thing I don't mean it. What is she bitching about it? They're going to do it. They're going to cover it. Well under those cases. Well fine, as you know this is about time some charity showed up in the formula here and said everything coming out of the taxpayers pockets. When I was growing up, when I was a kid, you know it was like don't be daft, don't be silly, put a snakeskin on your willy. How, when did we lose the idea of being careful?

1:25:17 Well, the funny thing is Planned Parenthood started... Yes. As, as... Well, they started as a eugenicist group. No, they didn't. Yes, they did. That evolved, that evolved. I've looked into this. I've looked into it too. I disagree with you. She started off as a promoter of condoms because nobody... They were illegal for all practical purposes. You're telling me Margaret Sanger started as a condom advocate? No. Yeah. That was 1930. Well, we can disagree on that and I will, but I'm not agreeing to disagree. There were over a million abortions in the US in 2024. A million! There's too many. There's too many abortions! It's like, that was the number one thing. You know, when you were 15, your dad would say, here, here kid, here's a rubber. It's like, okay.

1:26:12 You know, what happened? What happened there? Well, you don't need it when you have an abortion taking in Russia. It's cheaper, especially if somebody else is paying for it. John C. DeVore, the great defender of Margaret Sanger. I will not defend Margaret Sanger. I disagree with that. So let's play Brooks and Capehart. And I have three clips. I have the opener on PBS because they talk about this Supreme Court stuff a little bit, and then I have Brooks going on about porn in schools. Ah, yes. Yeah. And then we have, I have Brooks, the last one is Brooks on any topic. Okay. Opener? Yeah, opener.

1:26:55 Let's turn now to the analysis of Brooks and Capehart. That is New York Times columnist David Brooks and Jonathan Capehart, associate editor for The Washington Post. And we should say that you are both joining us tonight from the Aspen Ideas Festival in Colorado. Your beautiful backgrounds make me wish I was there with you guys. It's great to see you. Let's jump right in to those Supreme Court decisions today. Big wins for the president, one on allowing religious parents to opt their kids out of LGBTQ learning and storybooks in school. The other severely limiting lower courts ability to issue nationwide injunctions. We heard President Trump very happily thank the justices who ruled in his favor earlier today. Take a listen. I want to thank Justice Barrett, who wrote the opinion brilliantly as well as Chief Justice Roberts.

1:26:12 You know, what happened? What happened there? Well, you don't need it when you have an abortion taking in Russia. It's cheaper, especially if somebody else is paying for it. John C. DeVore, the great defender of Margaret Sanger. I will not defend Margaret Sanger. I disagree with that. So let's play Brooks and Capehart. And I have three clips. I have the opener on PBS because they talk about this Supreme Court stuff a little bit, and then I have Brooks going on about porn in schools. Ah, yes. Yeah. And then we have, I have Brooks, the last one is Brooks on any topic. Okay. Opener? Yeah, opener.

1:26:55 Let's turn now to the analysis of Brooks and Capehart. That is New York Times columnist David Brooks and Jonathan Capehart, associate editor for The Washington Post. And we should say that you are both joining us tonight from the Aspen Ideas Festival in Colorado. Your beautiful backgrounds make me wish I was there with you guys. It's great to see you. Let's jump right in to those Supreme Court decisions today. Big wins for the president, one on allowing religious parents to opt their kids out of LGBTQ learning and storybooks in school. The other severely limiting lower courts ability to issue nationwide injunctions. We heard President Trump very happily thank the justices who ruled in his favor earlier today. Take a listen. I want to thank Justice Barrett, who wrote the opinion brilliantly as well as Chief Justice Roberts.

1:27:40 And justices Alito, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Thomas, great people. They are now. Jonathan, kick us off here. What's your reaction to those rulings? What do you take away from that? Well, on the injunction ruling, I reached out to a former senior official in a Democratic administration just to get their take on it. And the response back was mixed bag. And it's mixed bag because on the one hand, Democratic presidents and Republican presidents never liked it when a lower court judge reached in and stopped them from doing something with a nationwide injunction. I'm thinking particularly of President Biden and say student loan debt forgiveness. Hold on. What? It was the Supreme Court that put the kibosh on Biden who told him to pound sand. So, okay, we got that wrong. Yeah. You hate these guys so much. You are so... Well, you have your hate listens. Yeah, I do. I do. I gotta bring them back.

1:28:43 So I have now we're going to listen to K part on the porn in schools. When it comes to the LGBT school ruling, you know, for that to come out that day after the 10th anniversary of the Obergefell ruling, which legalized same sex marriage, made it a constitutional right is really, you know, it's painful. It's also speak. It speaks to the court's willingness to, you know, be a party to erasing a whole community. Oh, goodness. Let me just give you in short because we have this going on here in Fredericksburg this with this with the with the public school here

1:29:19 And, you know, it's become every single school board meeting. And by the way, I'm always saying, why are you wasting your time? Run for school board, get on the school board. You know what? If I lived in Fredericksburg, we live in unincorporated Fredericksburg, five minutes from Main Street for some reason, but I would run for school board. No problem. The problem is Every single one of those people on the school board has been threatened by the ACLU that they will be sued personally. That's what this is about. It's the ACLU. They're the problem. Those books, they're stupid.

1:29:56 They really are lame. Well, the porn books defend the books by saying you're erasing a community. It's bullcrap! It's pornography. Bullcrap. It's total bullcrap. Well, and here's what... and now I have a kind of a universal clip I can play any time. This turns out to be the answer. This is Brooks on anything. I agree with Jonathan. I agree with Jonathan. I agree with Jonathan. I agree with Jonathan. I know. Why don't you tell us what the format of the show is supposed to be, John? Well, typical of these shows, you're supposed to get perspective from two opposing viewpoints. That's the idea. That's what helps the audience take two opposing viewpoints on the same topic, and one of them says this and one of them says that, and you as the viewer say,

1:30:46 Say, well I can see what he means, I can see this, I can see that, so you can understand it. As opposed to two guys that vehemently, vehemently agree with each other. All the time! Who is supposed to be the Republican? That's Brooks. Brooks is supposed to be the Republican, but he's never been a Republican. He's always been a, not a lefty, kind of a middle-of-the-road Democrat. And Kayparch is just a gay liberal. Alright, let's go to the big beautiful... by the way, you're so right. I'm looking at the quad screen right now and it said, Eric Adams worked with ICE. They were so right. Nailed it. There it is. Eric Adams worked with ICE. He's no good. We go to the big beautiful bill which coincidentally Elon Musk came out against again today. That it would set us back.

1:31:41 be horrible. I think Trump is putting everything on this because he wants those tax cuts and I'm sure there's tons of nonsense in there. Oh, there must be a ton. Tons of nonsense. Well, it's on the Senate floor. A rare Saturday session in the Senate. We have before us today a once-in-a-generation opportunity to deliver legislation to create a safer, stronger and more prosperous America. Senate Republicans are trying to pull a fast one on the American people. Lawmakers work through their holiday recess, racing to meet a July 4th deadline to advance President Trump's so-called big beautiful bill. The president stayed in town too, golfing with senators urging them to tee it up.

1:32:26 but we'd like to get it done. Overnight, Senate Republicans released the 900-plus page bill, which includes more funding for the president's top priorities, including border security, defense, and an extension of his 2017 tax cuts. But it comes with deep spending cuts to food assistance and Medicaid, including a projected $930 billion reduction, according to the Congressional Budget Office. What they're trying to do to... She doesn't mention that's over 10 years, but that's kind of interesting how they just throw that in there. According to the Congressional Budget Office. What they're trying to do to cut back on these health care programs and health insurance for 16 million Americans to pay for tax breaks for wealthy people. Even some Republicans have threatened to oppose the package, citing concerns about the potential impact to rural hospitals. But others say it's time to act.

1:33:20 Are we done? Are we ready to put our pens down and move forward? You know, the Medicare cuts are the ones that get me. I mean, it's if I have I've not read all 900 pages yet. I typically read whatever is passed when it's really passed, when there's we have one big, beautiful, solid bill. And then we'll go through it and we'll find all the funding for UFO projects and everything else. There's always some cool stuff hidden in there. I enjoy it. But these cuts are really for people who are just sucking off the system. You know? It's like, no. And then illegals who are here and getting health care. No, no. This is exactly what the president ran on. It sucks. We're a nice people in America. We don't really want to hurt anybody. Well, you do. You have to. There's your eggs analogy.

1:34:15 But I may not have to read it because I guess Chuck Schumer's gonna read it for me. To address some of those GOP concerns, the bill now includes a $25 billion rural hospital fund. It also rolls back clean energy tax credits from the Biden era, angering Democrats. In fact, they hope to slow this vote down by demanding that the entire bill be read on the Senate floor, which could take up to 15 hours. Lovely! I love that. Especially if you get those one replace paragraph 5 US law 17-329er with any time instead of all time

1:34:56 Yeah, there's lots of that. I'm looking forward to reading it. It'll be fun. I'm sure there's all kinds of good stuff in there. Of course, the no tax on tips was a big promise from the president. Even my stepdaughter in New York, she's like, oh, I like this Trump because she works at a bar. And, you know, typically people in service industry get paid very low wages. It was like $3 an hour. I don't know. Yeah, I think in New York it's between two and four dollars an hour and then they, and tips is where they make their money. And so here's Lawrence O'Donnell explaining what it's really about. Donald Trump told a story today about how he came up with the idea that he's very proud of, of no tax on tips.

1:35:46 And remember, most American workers do not receive tips. So this is not a tax break for them. It is a tax break for people who Donald Trump likes better than the people who don't receive tips. How does that work? The logic is this. I don't understand the logic. Wait, it gets better. Donald Trump said it happened in Las Vegas when someone he called a quote, young, beautiful waitress told him that she didn't want to pay taxes on her tips. She looked at me, she said, sir, there should be no tax on tips. I said, say it again. There should be no tax on tips. I said, that's the coolest thing I've ever heard. I walked outside, the press was there as always waiting for something bad to happen, hundreds of them. I said, ladies and gentlemen, please announce tonight there will be no tax on tips. There are many reasons why no Secretary of the Treasury has ever advised a president

1:36:49 to have no tax on tips. You just heard the stupidest story ever told by a president about tax policy. So Donald Trump thinks some income should be protected from taxation and some shouldn't. So a Las Vegas lap dancers income- There we go. Should be tax free, but a Las Vegas public school teacher must pay full taxes on all income. Straight from Reseda, here she is, Raven! Give it up! I love how he did that. That was good. That was good, Larry. Wow. That guy. How did you... Does that guy still have a job? Yes! And I'm sure he makes more than we do. Oh yeah. Absolutely. Tons more. Tons more. Alright. Well... I have a little side clip. A little clip just to say it was entertaining. Yeah, sure.

1:37:48 Uh, your buddy... Oh, here we go. Is that Scott Galloway? No, I, you know, I have trouble clipping that guy. He's so slow talking and... Well, he talks and his mouth is like this... And he talks with a slit. And he is... It's hard to watch him. He always likes to be on video and he just... So, smug. Someone convinced them that they should do a video. You know, it's like, oh, without video, it's really nothing. You really have to have video. Your podcast is no good without video. Let me see how many people watch that stupid podcast on YouTube. Although, stupid, I love the podcast, I have to say.

1:38:34 Yes, yeah, you love hate it. Oh, that's great. It's a great podcast so Kennedy No, that's my but almost killed you. I know that story. She broke my butt Should I tell this I should probably tell the story? Yeah, you might as well refrain the story because we have not heard it for probably five years MTV Beach House first year great idea. We all go out to Quag, which is you got the Hamptons and then you got all the poor people. They live in Quag because beyond the Hamptons. Big house on the beach. It was an experiment, worked out really well. It later became a reality show when everybody realized that all that happened in MTV Beach House was just a lot of drinking and screwing around. So all the VJs would be out there for the summer. Real pain in the butt. You'd drive three and a half hours from the city to get there.

1:39:27 And, you know, so we did all the typical beach house things and then we're on wave runners. These days known as jet skis, which they're not, they're wave runners. So I'm doing my segment, but I'm, you know, but I'm sitting on the wave runner and the camera guy's on the other wave runner and he's, you know, I'm doing my segment and all of a sudden Kennedy rams into me. with her WaveRunner thinking she was funny. And so I go flying off the WaveRunner and hit my left buttock right on the edge of the WaveRunner and to this day there's still a crease in my butt. And it was black and blue for months. And she never really said sorry, which I've always wanted to talk to her about. And I almost got on her podcast, but then they cancelled on me.

1:40:15 Oh, that's too bad. Yeah. Well, her podcast isn't that good. I, of course, have forgiven her since then, but it'd be fun to talk about it. Well, she's quite lively on Gutfeld and I got butt-slammed. That's right trolls. I literally got butt-slammed by Kennedy. There you go So she was on stelter or said stelter on her podcast. No. No, she has an anecdote. Oh, I thought was amusing It's more of a real news story if you get that clip up real quick because this is a real news story It's a little gossip and now that is a good news

1:40:53 And I have to give Brian Stelter any credit for anything because he really is a giant human potato who's obsessed with Emily Campagno. It was really, really creepy and unsettling. Really? I did not know that. I did say spill the tea. Like in front of his wife, he's like, Emily, I'm your biggest fan. And I was like, get away from her. Like, you are literally two inches and a half a glass of Chardon away from pumping her leg. Wow. You never get to hear these stories on your shows, Kilmeade. Right. No. Oh, brother. Wow, my story was better than that. Yeah, but I didn't you know, it was better actually, but it was kind of lascivious. I like the lasciviousness of stelter fawning all over this woman, Emily Campagna, who she's referring to is the X-Raider head cheerleader turned lawyer turned enthusiastic host. You know, she's on various Fox shows. Really cute.

1:41:57 And she turned beet red kind of even though she's oh she was right there when the story pointing at her and she's and she never said yeah I guess this is a true story because she didn't deny it Emily Campagnolo Wikipedia doesn't even have a picture of her. What's wrong with you, Wikipedia? Just look at images. There's a thousand pictures of Emily. If you can find the ones when she was the head cheerleader at the Raiders, she was blonde. Huh. Let me see. Cheerleader for the Raiders? Yeah. Head cheerleader, not just... She's one of those... Yeah, okay. I see. She's one of those women that has to be a nightmare.

1:42:45 No, because she's so high energy. It's like, come on, let's go horse riding. Let's go for dancing. Get out of the house. Sit up. Get what are you doing sitting? Grab a hula hoop. Do something. I wouldn't mind hearing about you seem to have a series on pride flags which the fact that you put a series together means something in here is good and I don't want it to wait until after we take a break because you know all right I can do it yeah this is this is PBS has been doing okay it's still but it's still pride month is the 29th so it's still pride month

1:43:23 So there's this big controversy, they're trying to push pride flags all over the place, you know, which is really skeptical. I feel, I don't have mixed feelings about it, I just don't think it's a good idea. to have your state flag, your American flag, and then a pride flag? This is a sexual thing. So what are you putting that up there for? But okay, so PBS is all behind it too. Oh God, yes, let's do a promotion. They're basically promoting using the pride flag. Now most of these clips are fairly short, but they're a little long, but they all have,

1:43:59 kind of a punchline so it makes it worthwhile. Let's start with one. This year marks a decade since same-sex marriage was legalized nationwide, but in several Republican-led states efforts are underway to ban pride flags from public schools and government buildings, sparking a wave of local resistance. Dima Zayn has the story. In Salt Lake City, a historic flag raising. You are welcome here because in Salt Lake City you belong. The city adopted a new official flag called the Sago Belonging Flag featuring LGBTQ colors underneath the city's Sago flower. What we're doing today is about the dignity and the worth of every single person in this community. No matter who they are, no matter who they love,

1:44:47 The move coming just hours before a new law took effect in Utah, banning public schools and government buildings in the state from displaying any flags that aren't officially approved. Utah was the first state in the nation to ban pride flags from public buildings, but not the last. Idaho and Montana have adopted similar bans in recent weeks, and at least eight other states with Republican-controlled legislatures are considering the idea. Orion Rumler covers LGBTQ issues in politics for the 19th News. Hey, hey, hey, how come we can't get a gig like that? Cover LGBTQ issues for the news? This is a great gig!

1:45:28 It was a permanent gig for sure. In politics for the 19th News. Republican lawmakers have framed these bans as a necessary way to make state houses and government buildings and schools, depending on the language of the ban, neutral places. But some cities are pushing back, like in Boise, Idaho, where a pride flag has flown for several years outside City Hall. Yeah. I agree. Does the pride flag outside of City Hall in Boise mean that the City Hall is gay? The pride flag's about gay, right? Well, no, it's multiple things. It's LGBTQ+, disability pride. Basically, yes, it was mostly gay. There's transgender. I'd say mostly trans at this point is what it represents more than anything. Well, now it's mostly trans, but that's just slowly, that's, yeah. What happened to the pink triangle? That was kind of cool.

1:46:26 Well, I don't know, but these guys seem to be all jacked up about having the pride flag. You know, some workers flags or a communist flag or... What is the point? It just bothers me, but I'm just being a boomer here. Yes. So I can get away with it. So let's play part two. Don't worry, you can get away with it. I'll get blamed for it. Yeah, you should be blamed for it. You're the most... In fact, you invited it. Well, I mean, oh, give a motion a second clerk. Last month, the city council voted five to one designated as an official city flag, which they say will allow them to continue to fly it and not violate the new state law. Removing the flag now after years of flying it proudly would not be a neutral act. Boise Mayor Lauren McLean arguing. We know that that's not just a flag. We know it says who we are.

1:47:20 You know It says who we are this what I've just said the Boise Boise's gay That's what she said. I want a Tourette's flag. What would the Tourette's flag look like? It'd be kind of jiggly jig It has its own flagpole that just jitters the whole time now it gets screwy we have oh I see I have this actually I have two threes I think the first three is the one I Okay, we want all right first three just two blocks away since the Idaho State Capitol where the legislature voted overwhelmingly to pass HB 96 a bill that bans quote governmental entities from displaying any flags other than the US flag State and local flags the POW flag or those from military branches and native tribes schools may also display their own banners

1:48:09 Idaho's Republican Attorney General warns Boise's mayor to take down the flag or face penalties when the state legislature comes back in session. It's going to cost the community and the city money for violating the law and she doesn't pay it out of her pocket. It's going to cost the citizens of Boise and I think that's shameful. In neighboring Montana sits the city of Missoula. Earlier this month, city leaders voted to adopt the pride flag as its only official city flag. Despite a new Montana state law that prohibits flags on state property that quote, represent a political viewpoint including but not limited to flags or banners regarding a political party, race, sexual orientation, gender or political ideology. The Republican governor of Montana, Greg Gianforte called the move divisive.

1:48:58 posting that Missoula City Council should be ashamed for imposing a pride flag on schools and dividing their community. This is more than, you know, blue dots rebuking the culture war policies of their Republican controlled legislatures. Choosing to fly those flags as official city flags sends a message that this city wants to stand apart from the rest of the state as, you know, the beacon of inclusivity. A challenge that for now hangs in the air. Yeah, I'm kind of regretting this now. Well, you shouldn't because here comes number three WTF. All right, here we go. And now we are joined by Salt Lake City Mayor Aaron Mendenhall. Thank you so much for joining us. I want to jump in first and ask your reaction when you heard about Utah's legislation bill banning all non-official flags at schools and governmental buildings.

1:49:51 Well, it didn't make a lot of sense as an urgent topic for our legislature to address and yet they chose to do so. And we worked really hard to figure out how we could both abide by that law and continue to represent the values of Salt Lake City. You adopted three other flags, amending them as official city flags, allowing you to fly them. Can you dig in a little deeper here and talk about what these flags symbolize to you and to your community? Oh, here we go. They symbolize the values that have been here in Salt Lake City for generations. Diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging.

1:50:28 They do not exclude. These are flags of inclusion. We've raised two of them in the month of June with the Juneteenth flag raising and pride. And we've heard from hundreds, even thousands of community members who've said, I see myself being represented in these flags. I feel seen and valued and wanted and understood. And that's what these flags are about. Oh man. I feel valued because of the flag and understood because there's a flag hanging outside the city hall. There's a flag that means I feel understood. What is going on here?

1:51:10 You sound like the F-35 guy. Yeah, well here we go with this gets worse. There's five. Oh brother. Utah Governor Spencer Cox didn't sign the bill but he also did not veto it which allowed the law to go into effect. He was asked about Salt Lake City's pride flags and here's what he had to say. I'm sure they feel great that they got around this dumb law and they did it with dumb flags. The whole thing's dumb. What do you think should be done? Well, I already said what I thought should be done. We should raise the American flag and let's unify around that. They are dumb flags and it was a dumb bill. What's your response to the governor? It's fine if he wants to say that about the decision that I made to bring these flags forward for approval with our city council. That's my role as the mayor. I take that responsibility, but I don't think it's the right way to address community members who feel validated,

1:52:07 seen, heard and wanted in their community because they see these flags flying. Have you felt or have you had a sense, a bigger sense of the state seeking more control over your city's ability to function? Yeah. If there's no flag, you don't feel wanted by the city or something. What are we talking about here? By the way, this mayor, this nutball mayor from Salt Lake City, and this is a Mormon state which cracks me up by the way. I just find it highly amusing that this is taking place in Utah, but especially in Salt Lake City of all places. I don't know if you've ever been there, but it's... Yes, I have. I've hung out with the Mormons.

1:52:57 Yeah, well if you go to Salt Lake City you're gonna hang out with Mormons. They are the ultimate OG preppers, I'll tell you that. And so, so she goes on forever. I just have this last piece of what she continues to be hammering yammer about inclusivity. And oh, you feel wanted. You have to have the flag or else. I think that's a pretty consistent dynamic, especially in a blue dot capital city in a red state with a super majority Republican legislature. That's not a new experience for us. But it's something that we're constantly navigating. My administration has a pretty good relationship with state leaders. We talk to each other even when we disagree. And I think we're going to be able to keep talking through this. I don't think this is the end of what we'll see from the legislature regarding the flags, but neither is at the end of our ability to represent our values and we'll keep finding ways to do so.

1:53:51 Well, there's a controversy brewing around the pride flag in Fredericksburg that I should probably mention. Are they flying it at City Hall? Oh no, no. We have a coffee place on Main Street called Java Ranch and Java Ranch, it's kind of old school. You know, it's like cowboy interior and it's just a coffee place. And you got the kids working there, you know, they're in their 20s. I play chess there on Mondays. You know, it's a nice little hangout. Wait, wait, stop. Stop the presses. Yes.

1:52:57 Yeah, well if you go to Salt Lake City you're gonna hang out with Mormons. They are the ultimate OG preppers, I'll tell you that. And so, so she goes on forever. I just have this last piece of what she continues to be hammering yammer about inclusivity. And oh, you feel wanted. You have to have the flag or else. I think that's a pretty consistent dynamic, especially in a blue dot capital city in a red state with a super majority Republican legislature. That's not a new experience for us. But it's something that we're constantly navigating. My administration has a pretty good relationship with state leaders. We talk to each other even when we disagree. And I think we're going to be able to keep talking through this. I don't think this is the end of what we'll see from the legislature regarding the flags, but neither is at the end of our ability to represent our values and we'll keep finding ways to do so.

1:53:51 Well, there's a controversy brewing around the pride flag in Fredericksburg that I should probably mention. Are they flying it at City Hall? Oh no, no. We have a coffee place on Main Street called Java Ranch and Java Ranch, it's kind of old school. You know, it's like cowboy interior and it's just a coffee place. And you got the kids working there, you know, they're in their 20s. I play chess there on Mondays. You know, it's a nice little hangout. Wait, wait, stop. Stop the presses. Yes.

1:54:31 You wait on Mondays, which is there I consider the no agenda day off Yes, you go to the cowboy coffee shop. Mm-hmm the Java Hut or whatever Java Ranch Java Ranch and play chess with Willie Yes, do you have a did we is it the chess we have the timer? We well we have had competitions And it's Willie's first invitational And so, you know, Willie kind of, we started playing chess. No one was playing chess there. Who's Willie? Oh, Willie's a guy I met in our church and he is messed up.

1:55:13 Willie's like, that's Willie. You know, he got the arms out pretty much like Trump, like Trump's impression of that journalist. That's Willie because Willie had a head on collision when he was 19. And you know, is he good at chess? He's very good at chess. Interesting. OK. Yeah. Because I said, hey, you know, Willie, you know, once I heard just like what's wrong with him? Is he retired? What's going on with you? Because I sat next to him one time. And And he explained to me, you know, he showed me a picture on his... He only can use one hand. He showed the picture of the wreck. I mean, the guy was next to him got killed in the accident. Then he had a couple of strokes. So Willie's had a tough go of it. And I said, we should meet for coffee. So he had Java Ranch. So we meet at Java Ranch and he has a chess set with him. And the guy turns out to be like a kind of a good chess player. So that's how chess came about. So anyway, you asked. Yeah, I did. I'm sorry I did. Yeah, you should be.

1:56:10 So a new place opened up called Cafe House. K-A-F-F-E-E. Cafe House. Yeah. Yeah, Cafe House. And I immediately didn't like it. Was it next to this place? No, it's around the corner and it's very modern. And it's very nice and you know, and so it's not rough and tumble like, you know, it's douchey. It's bougie, bougie, bougie. Coffeehouse. Also, never goes to coffeehouse, but I won't get, I won't go to coffeehouse because I'm a Java ranch guy. I'm loyal. Like I still go to the same hair girl in Austin for 15 years. I'm loyal.

1:56:49 And so the ladies do their Bible study there, half the church is there, probably another reason... The coffee house. The coffee house. Now here's the controversy. Recently some of the kids who work there, young people... At coffee house. At coffee house, put a little Jesus on the counter wrapped in a pride flag. Jesus and a pride flag. I would consider that sacrilegious. Yes, of course! And now they're all trying to figure out what to do about it. Oh, what to do about it. Yeah, and I'm like, here's an idea.

1:57:25 Asked them to take the pride flag off. Well, we did and they said no. Well, then you should no longer go there You should come back to Java ranch said no. I have an idea take the pride flag off. No. Oh Why don't you just remove the Jesus and the pride flag? That would be fine, too They can have a pride fly I don't think anyone cares if they have a pride flag in there But this pride flag on the Jesus is a bit of a problem religious. Yes, and I'm like Well, why do you keep going there then? Don't go there! Yeah, but we like Coffee House. Oh, okay. They just don't like the rough and tumble nature of the Java joint. Java Ranch, man. Oh, the trolls say firebomb the house. Firebomb it? Now you're talking. Hey, with that I want to thank you for your courage. In the morning to you, the man who put the C in the cheerleaders for the Raiders. Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, Mr. John C. DeVore.

1:58:29 Yeah, I'll give more to you, Mr. Adam Curry, and more ships, sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and mates out there. Hold on, Charles, we've got a call up here. By the way, I'm going to suggest that. Let's firebomb the house. That's a great idea. Hey, 2,319 trolls checking and listening to the live stream. Well, that's good for a Sunday. So that's about... What was the number? 2,319. So it's about 100 up. 100 up, baby. 100 low. No, it's usually 22. It's 22. 18 on Thursdays, 22. Isn't it 22? Yeah.

1:59:06 You have the you have the post-it note somewhere check it out. Oh hold on a second. Oh, but see there you go That's already there. They're messing with me there. We go. You're back. I said 23 I think 22 is the norm isn't 22 the no 25 is the norm 24 or lately it's last week we had 26 No, we're down. We're down 300 Trump needs to do something about that It's Trump's fault. He's got to bomb somebody, man. Come on. Come on, baby. Yes, the trolls are listening to us at trollroom.io. You might be right, by the way. Well, of course I'm right. We had big numbers the last couple of shows because of the bombing. Yeah. Now people like... Bloodthirsty country. Those boomers, those boomers with their Jew money. We don't get any Jew money. I think we got one donation from...

2:00:00 We got one Jew thanking us. One lone Jew. One lone Jew said, hey, thanks for saying that. And we defend them to such an extreme. We are equal opportunity offenders, believe me. You can also listen to this program on a modern podcast app. Go to podcastapps, that's plural, .com and choose one, choose any of them. These are independent podcast apps that will delight you with the features they have. They go far beyond any of your legacy apps. Ooh, nasty legacy apps. Give them a shot. I think you'll like it. There's all kinds of cool things you can do with them, including listen to the live stream.

2:00:40 And not just listen to the live stream, but within 90 seconds of us publishing the show, you'll be alerted on your phone, on your little pocket computer telling you, oh, there's a new show. So that is not just for our show. It's for hundreds of thousands of shows that utilize the Podping infrastructure developed by the boys and girls at Podcasting 2.0. So last week we did a pretty in-depth explanation of Value for Value. I don't think we have to go over that again, but the bottom line is we give you everything. Unlike people who... Oh man, the ads on these podcasts.

2:01:19 Do you ever really listen to any podcasts at length? Yeah, I do. This Mike Baker, I listen to the right guy, Byron Bryan. Didn't they have ads? Yeah. Isn't that annoying? Yeah. And it's the ad load, as we say in the business, the ad load has just become outrageous. It's like every 10 minutes. It bothers me. These are all, I don't know what it is that started, maybe Leo Laporte had something to do with it, I'm not sure. But it all started off with, they have to be host-read ads. Oh, that's where the money is. You get $40 CPM, i.e. $40 for every

2:02:02 1,000 downloads. I don't see it. I think a professionally done ad, I've always felt this way, that a professionally done ad in-house by an ad agency that just sells the product and does a great job of it, would have been nothing but host-read. That's what used to be television discovered this. In the early days of television, in the 50s, especially the 50s, They had all these, like, you watch my line, because they still show these shows now on some of these over the air sub channels. And it's like. What's My Line brought to you by Paul Moll. And Paul Moll's a great cigarette for blah, blah, blah. I know, Jim, what do you have with, there I got some Paul Moll cigarettes. It was all host red ads and then somebody decided, hey, these guys stink. Why don't we do a real professional ad and bring in a cowboy and do some other stuff, we can probably do a better job of selling. And then the host red ads on TV, even early days of Johnny Carson, they used to do them.

2:03:00 They all ended. But I'll tell you why that is. Would you like to know why that is? I'd like to know. Because the host-read ad has more value because you know that the people who actually... So remember, the metric in podcasts is downloads, which is a scam because these apps all automatically download and you're probably not listening to half of the podcast in your podcast app. Right. So it's a scam. That's why, you know, they just regular ad pre-rolls, mid-rolls and post-rolls. No one's listening, and you skip them. So the idea is that when the host reads it, there's a more likelihood that people will listen to that ad because it's the host, and the recall of these ads that are host-read is higher.

2:03:51 Now, does that... Says who? Says the IAB, the Interactive Agency. Well, the IAB needs to figure it out. Oh, the IAB needs to figure a lot of stuff out. So what has happened is you've got the $40 CPM ad reads and then you have the DAI. How is it DIA? Oh, DAI, Dynamic Ad Insertion. Which means, you know, here in Fredericksburg, if I start up a podcast that is DAI, get a Spanish ad because they know me so well. You know, ocho, ocho, ocho. Okay, great. I don't know what you're advertising me. So it just doesn't work. But some people think it works because I saw our spreadsheet for today and seems like some people are like, oh, I can get these guys to read my ad. So we'll see about that.

2:04:46 Anyway, no, we don't do that. We just thank everybody who supports us financially and we do that for everybody $50 and above and it seems to work out okay most times. It's an exciting lifestyle but we chose it and we're okay. Exciting lifestyle. The exciting lifestyle. It's the new international lifestyle, value for value. Didn't you know that's the new international lifestyle? I think we're going to have to put a word limit on these... Ads. On these notes, I don't care whether it's an ad or not. There's two on here that are just, they're no good. Yeah, well what's your limit? I have to, okay, well I can make the calculation. I'll come up with an answer for the next show. I mean, it should really, because you know when you give it a limit, everybody's going to fit it into that limit.

2:05:37 It's fine with me as long as the limit's not like it is with the... We're not talking a thousand words, you know. We had essays here. You got, you know, Toschievsky hasn't written as much as a couple of these guys. Another obscure reference from Currie and Dvorak, everybody. Not that obscure. We also accept value in the form of time and talent. There's a lot of that. Our boots on the ground reports. We have lawyers on staff, people. I'm telling you. We got lawyer producers doing stuff. We do. Who care for us, who care for the show, want to make the show better, want to help us, want to inform us. And then we have artists. Well, we used to have artists. Now we just have AI prompt jockeys.

2:06:21 We have single I mean, I'm just gonna allow AI songs for the end of show mix now because you're right You're right. I like the way you you have to kick you Okay, I'm not gonna criticize you for this you can because that's not really a criticism your you cave Maybe the word cave is not the right word. I But you cave to the pressures that are coming in from every which way. You cave to modernity as things change and improve and progress. You cave to it after resisting as much as you can. So that brings me to the question, why you resist at all? Resist we much, and we much this be forgotten.

2:07:06 Yeah, well I resist because I liked our artists. We had Dutch masters. They're all gone. Every single one of them. You're right. The Dutch masters have all left. They've all abandoned us. And sadly, sadly, a lot of this AI art is just better. It doesn't mean that I... I mean the execution is better. He's admitting it. What? I think you're right. Yeah, I mean... But now it's just all AI art, which is just too bad, you know, from time to time. You know, once in a while someone will come in. I mean, we got a long note from Riley. Oh, you mean the deserter?

2:07:45 No, sir. Do you mean it? There's a guy who eats desserts? He's busy he's busy he got a lot of work he's an accountant basically and he just could he's apologized counting as money he's counting his money yes he needs money he listens to the show and he you know wishes he could do but you know what the stuff that Riley does it's basically been jacked by AI everybody can do Riley stuff now Think about it. Not with the crude, the basic crude style. No, that's true. Alright, alright, so blue acorn was the artwork that we chose for the previous episode Yeah, I caved on this one pretty quick. No you didn't I did because you're like I like the boobs This is great. That's a great piece of art and I was so tired of fighting you on this stuff. No I'm gonna tell everyone how to you you you speak with forked tongue. I

2:08:46 I said, I like this piece. I think this is a really good piece of cheesecake. And you said, oh, we just did cheesecake two shows ago. And I said, yeah, we just... That's the voice I used? Yeah. Okay. And so I said, yeah, we did. But this piece is really well, I like the 1776 and we got to have that into the art. And then you had some other suggestions. Okay, well, let's do something else. And he said, no. No, no, we're doing this and it's your fault. You chose it, I'm picking it, you chose it, it's on you. It's on you, it's on you. You made a big fuss. And here I am saying it's on you. Thank you. That's exactly how it went. You said, I'm quitting the show if we don't choose this art. I never said that. That's a lie. That is a blatant lie.

2:09:37 Oh man. But looking back on it, I think it was a good decision. It was a good piece. It was a good piece. For 1776, it said America. For a couple of reasons it was a good piece. Well first of all, it just said America. That's how I remember America. That's right. That's what it did. It said America right there, right up front. The... let me see, was there anything else that we discussed? I don't think so. But everything is AI art. Everything. Which means eventually it'll just be muck. But I think you've complained so much about the end of show mixes, and not without merit, but it's hard to do, and people get discouraged, and then you hear some toe-tapping ditty made by AI, and I play it, and like, that's great. And arguably, it was good. It was good. Maybe it's just, you know, but here's the thing with AI songs. Everyone like, this

2:10:34 Great song! And it's just, you know, they got some Kuri and Dvorak lyrics in there. 33, you know, value for value. And it's always three minutes long. No. End of show mixes. Cut it down. A minute. Make it a minute. I'll give him 110. 110, 110. And it's not, you know, it has to be a good song. It's not about just the lyrics. Anybody can throw in some no agenda lyrics into AI and say, make me a song. Like, wow, this is great. No, it's not. So if you send me a true- I think now you've just done it. You've got the AI song challenge, which will lead right into the awards. Yeah, okay.

2:11:18 You know, we have a Best Of coming up at the end of July, just so you know, you get a day off a Thursday. And because I'm working on my exit strategy, you know, we got to take some time off for that. And the literal Best Of show done by circumference is our exit strategies. It's a three-hour show. It's a three-hour show about our exit strategies. I wonder if he has the sequined underwear that we remember back in the day. I don't remember that one. Yeah, the HEMA. The HEMA underwear. You don't remember the HEMA underwear? Oh, yeah, HEMA, sure. It was gonna be embroidered. I don't remember that part. It could be.

2:12:05 Anyway, Blue Acorn, thank you very much. You kind of nailed it. It also had the luminance, it had brightness, it had a kind of... it was still a little wishy-washy. But yeah, when I think back to 1976, and I was in America for the centennial, the bicentennial, I'm sorry. Yeah. You were for the centennial, I was there for the bicentennial and that's pretty much what it was, 1976, that's exactly what America was like back then. So for me it was somewhat nostalgic but it was you who pressed on it and I just gave in.

2:35:21 So I don't know if you saw the long press conference that Trump gave the other day, but which one's not long? Yeah. Which is a huge contrast to everybody else who's ever been in office. How can you miss it? The quad screen is all Trump. Yeah. It's like, they're going to him live now. MSNBC used to reject that. We're not gonna. We're not gonna go last two entertaining. They're crazy not to exactly so I caught this little moment in the middle of one of his Press conference I thought was cute. Oh, yeah Is there any more information on the special prosecutor? So many Americans still have questions about the 2020 election. And speaking of rogue judges, would you consider appointing somebody at DOJ maybe to investigate the judges that allowed for the political persecution of you, your family and your supporters during the Biden administration?

2:36:15 I love you. Who are you? Tom Carro from Lindell TV. Well, that's a very nice question. And it's not a setup. I have no idea who you are, but I appreciate that question. All I can say is we're not here for that. I hope so. I hope they're doing the thing because that election was rigged and stolen, and we can't allow that to happen. You know, a lot of people tell me, sir, you just won the greatest election in the history of our country. You won at numbers that I won all seven swing states, won the popular vote, won everything. Sir, go on with your life. And many people say that, good people, friends of mine, then you have people that say that same thing, go on with your life, but you have to find out what happened because you can't let that happen again. Yeah, yeah, this is the, it was a black girl. He's not letting that one go. Was this the black girl? No, no, this is, I think her name's Kara.

2:37:11 And she is works for Lindell TV. He's got his own little Mike Lindell. Yeah, he's got his own little network. Oh, no He's got quite the network He's and he and she was wearing and he said the girl in the red dress and then he picked somebody in an orange I think you're gonna start seeing a very colorful Press oh so they can get picked pick me This is the reminds me of the the floor of the stock exchanges where guys would get dressed up in clown outfits so you could be easily identified. And I think you're going to start seeing that because he was going with the red dress. Yeah, not a setup. Mike Lindell, Lindell, by the way, who gets no credit for the lawsuit that he went through. You know, they tried to sue him for like Dominion level money. One of the one of those people over there.

2:38:02 And he was successful at fending it off. But they ruined his whole business. And he still keeps on trucking. Yeah, he's a perseverance. Yeah, him and the... Who's the overstock.com guy who used to be the CEO? I forget his name. Oh, I forgot about him. Oh, yeah. He's still out there. Patrick. Patrick. Yeah, no, those, those, they got the goods, they know. We'll see if that ever happens. RFK Jr. on the move once again, and this of course is the new committee who comes in for the vaccine policy. I thought I'd kick it off with France, France, Bancatra. This is great to hear.

2:38:51 you know, without evidence, you know, discredited claims, falsely claims and this false claim. This really does. This girl really does it all here in this quick report. Rfk Jr., Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Donald Trump's health secretary and longstanding vaccine skeptic fired 17 experts on that advisory panel recently. He replaced them with eight New people, mostly anti-vaxxers, on Thursday they voted to walk back vaccine recommendations for the flu, for the common flu and the reason being a common false argument of anti-vaxxers that the flu vaccine has an ingredient...

2:39:43 So this is you make me interrupt the whole thing because you're gonna say stuff like false argument. Yeah. Oh, yeah false It's an argument not a false argument. What is that? This doesn't even make sense It's like a non-sequitur to say something like that. That's what's so good about it vaccine recommendations for the flu For the common flu and the reason being a common false argument of anti vexers that the flu vaccine has an ingredient that that is linked to autism. That's what the New York Times reports in this article. The decision signaling a quote powerful shift, it says, in the way federal officials approach vaccines.

2:40:20 but also delivering the first blows to scientific to a scientific process that has delivered effective and tested vaccines to Americans for decades now. That ingredient I mentioned is with complete immunity. She forgot to mention that with complete immunity from lawsuits in case they hurt you. By the way, just before I forget, I never I don't say it enough on the show. That's the key. Yeah. Get rid of that bull crap. Every pill that they sell you, they sell you a pill or a therapy of any sort, they are subject to being sued for bad medicine, or if it makes you sick, it makes you ill, it kills you. Everybody, for everything else, you can be liable. But for this one product and one product only, they're indemnified? How does that work? Why?

2:41:16 Really? The website says it's important to note that it's hardly ever used in flu vaccines today. The website also explaining that the argument that vaccines cause autism because of this ingredient first surfaced in 1998 when a report, now discredited report, was published in the medical journal The Lancet.

2:41:59 claiming that several children had developed autism following the flu shot. Well, good job girl. Good job. Good job. Okay, fine. So that's the European take. CBS, as you can imagine, well, they have other things to say. A CDC vaccine advisory committee with new members handpicked by Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. met for the first time today. The committee makes recommendations on the use and scheduling of vaccines for children and adults. As Elaine Quijano reports, several members of the committee share Secretary Kennedy's skepticism about vaccines.

2:42:38 I thought they were anti-vaxxers. What is this? Skeptics? That's no good. You don't want skeptics on an advisory committee. That doesn't make any sense. Dr. Jennifer Duchon has treated hundreds of RSV cases in children at Mount Sinai Hospital in New York City. How severe can RSV symptoms be? RSV can be extremely severe. It can... Do you notice what they're doing here? They're taking a report about the Vaccine Commission Advisory Committee And they're turning it into an ad for the RSV vaccine. These people have no shame. Last fall and winter, during the height of RSV season, Dr. Duchon, who specializes in pediatric infectious diseases, saw a drop in RSV hospitalizations compared to previous years. She says that's in part because of the RSV immunization that's given to babies after they're born.

2:43:38 Even though fewer infants were hospitalized for RSV, it was still the leading cause of hospitalization for that age group. Preliminary estimates by the CDC show up to 23,000 people died from RSV last season. I love it how everything else they always bring in other factors, but you know, were these. With these mothers, did they have the COVID vaccine? Is there anything else that was going on? But there was a drop because of this. I mean, that doesn't even say that it's effective. It says, well, there was a drop in RSV cases because, you know, because we have this RSV vaccine. This is unbelievable. And by the way, the CBS is going to fail with this idea of having these two anchors. That was John Dickerson and that other guy. Because you can't, the olden days when you had two anchors. You can't have two dudes, man.

2:44:26 You can have two dudes. Huntley and Brinkley were fine as two dudes. Here's the problem if you start looking at it. It looks like it's a couple or a couple of brothers or something because they finish each other's sentences. This is not done right. You can't have one guy start the sentence and the other guy finish it. It's like, so they go back and forth and back and forth with the read. So you got your read on the prompter and they have half of it said by one guy. The other guy kicks in and starts talking and the other guy kicks in and starts talking as though, and it's one presentation. You have to go to one guy for the presentation and go to the other guy for another presentation. You can't go back and forth and back and forth.

2:45:04 They're running it like local, like the local news or like entertainment. Or worse, they're running it like those twin sisters who finish these other sentences and talk exactly at the same time. This is, it's terrible. Rigorous traditional approach. The committee that advises the CDC on vaccines announced today it plans to examine the long established childhood vaccination schedule, including whether infants should receive an RSV immunization before eight months. Also under consideration, whether hepatitis B shots are needed for all newborns before leaving the hospital and the timing and formulation for the measles, mumps and rubella vaccine. What's your reaction to what you're hearing out of Washington and this panel right now? It makes me concerned that again focusing on the risks as opposed to the overall benefits which have been proven over time. This is great.

2:45:57 They're focusing on the risks. Why would you focus on the risk? That makes no sense. That again, focusing on the risks as opposed to the overall benefits which have been proven over time. The panel is expected to vote tomorrow on whether to recommend that RSV immunization for infants that we mentioned. They're also scheduled to vote on whether to recommend the flu vaccine and specifically they plan to discuss a preservative that is no longer widely used in flu shots. Widely used, thimerosal, which is mercury. And he, we gotta bring in the doc now. Bring in LePouc, LePouc the spook. Last night we told you about a meeting of Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy's newly selected Vaccine Advisory Committee, which includes members who share his vaccine skepticism. Today that's- So this is the new talking point. They share his vaccine skepticism. Some members share his vaccine skepticism. Isn't that what the American people deserve? For them to be skeptics?

2:47:02 Is this a bad thing? I asked you. Yeah, it's a bad thing. You want, it's going to hurt the pharmaceutical bottom line. Oh, I'm sorry. Which includes members who share his vaccine skepticism. Today, that panel endorsed flu vaccinations for the fall, but only for shots that do not include an ingredient which has been falsely linked to autism. Falsely! Our Chief Medical Correspondent, Dr. John Lepook, asked a former acting director of the CDC about the significance of this week's meeting. Until recently... I think most of the public didn't even know this committee existed. We do have real-world evidence from this committee exists to provide advice and guidance to the medical community so that we can give the best advice to our patients and they can make the best decisions about their health and the health of their children. Dr. Richard Besser is a pediatrician and the president of the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation. You were the CDC director and you interacted with this committee.

2:48:01 How does what's happening now differ from what happened in your day? In the past, if there was a question that this committee wanted to address, they would put together a work group and it would have two members of the ACIP of the committee as well as the best scientists from CDC. They would spend months diving into the science before they would bring it to the committee. This issue today didn't go through that process. And that's really concerning. Where does that leave us? Where I think it leaves us is that there will be other organizations that come forward and make vaccine recommendations. The Academy of Pediatrics, different infectious disease societies. I think it's worth mentioning that the whole reason RFK Jr. got, became interested in this is because he was suing the, he was suing companies over mercury in the water.

2:48:51 And he tells this story many times. And that there was this group of mothers who kept showing up every single time, everywhere he went. They kept saying, please listen to us. And they gave him this huge stack of papers and research, scientific research, I guess, about thimerosal and how it had hurt their children. And that's how he... And he went, because this is what he does. He's a lawyer. He goes through this stuff. And he has the whole, I guess at the time, the Children Health Defense Network. And he says, you know, this is a real problem. Or is it? Let's ask the doctor. The American College of Physicians, which has more than 160,000 members, called this week's meeting a dangerous and reckless path that will leave our patients vulnerable to preventable illnesses. If I'm a parent watching this, I might think, well, no big deal. I'm going to still be able to get flu vaccine and I'd rather not have mercury. What's the problem? The whole process today suggests that there is something unsafe about our vaccine system.

2:49:49 and there isn't. There are still decisions to be made about additional vaccines. The committee is weighing changes to recommendations for the measles and hepatitis B vaccines. There is still no decision on this fall's COVID shots. When you're giving a kid hepatitis B vaccines, a sexually transmitted disease, A, but B, what does the guy just say? Remember back in the day when the swine flu vaccine came out because they were lined up to get the swine flu vaccine and one of the batches of the swine flu vaccine was very well documented, contained live swine flu virus so they could spread it faster?

2:50:28 But there's no liability, don't worry about it. They got caught with their pants down with that vaccine that had live flu, swine flu viruses in it. It was not a good product. No. So there's your update. What was this? I think you have a clip about this. The syringe attacks in France? Oh, this is one of these... I'd like to have these stories that nobody covers. It shows up... Oh, it was covered. It was covered. I saw it covered. Was it? I didn't hear it except on this report. Festival goers in France were targeted in more than 100 syringe attacks over the weekend. 145 people were jabbed with syringes at different venues across the country during Fête de la Musique.

2:51:12 Teenage girls were among the people who ended up in hospital. Most noticed a mark on their body before feeling ill and seeking medical help. Officials have not yet said what was in the syringes. Twelve people have now been detained in relation to the attacks. So with hundreds of thousands of people set to attend festivals in the UK this summer, how can you protect yourself? Generally the advice is to make sure you're aware of your surroundings. If you see something suspicious then report it to staff or the police and don't leave any possessions or drinks unattended. Do we know what was in there yet? No, there's never been any follow-up on this story. I think they suppressed the story because they don't want to give people ideas.

2:51:55 I mean, if you're gonna have these cities, San Francisco being one of them and now New York's gonna be one of them and it's very popular up in Seattle and Portland, places like that where you have free syringes being given away so drug users can take their drugs in their little place, they can have a little play, oh, I'm gonna take the drugs in a safe place. And so there's free syringes flying all over the place, left in the street, they're all over the place, it's terrible. You're gonna have something like this could become an epidemic. Yeah, it's not good. It's not good. I just wonder why we haven't, they're still awaiting toxicology reports? We're never going to hear anything. Nah, you're probably right. Yeah, what do we got here? Well, just a little boots on the ground from one of our producers about the past keys we were talking about.

2:52:45 Oh yes, okay. He says there's one additional little thing. Passwords, so the passkey is, you know, you don't actually know the passkey, you have it stored on your device or on your computer or on your phone. He says passwords are actually protected under the Fifth Amendment since you can't be forced to reveal what you know. Passkeys work differently. The user doesn't actually know the passkey. It's stored in access with biometrics or a device pin. He says that way passkeys generally do not get the same legal protection against compelled use. I think that's a very astute observation. Ah, dynamite. Yeah.

2:53:30 That is a very good... Stay with the old passwords, people. Yeah, I think that you should. Because they could say, hey, just look here. And your phone unlocks with your face, which I've never understood is a good idea. It's a bad idea. I've never understood that. Why would you do that? Why would you do that? Oh, it's easy. Well, OK, sure. Well, everything. No password. That's easy. That's the easiest. Even when you're dead, you just hold the phone up to the dead person's face. Boom, opens. Good to go. thumbprints. First off, about the little Venezuelans in Chicago, PBS again is promoting the state of affairs, anything that kind of pushes back on Trump's agenda because he didn't give them their 1% of their money, they're gonna pull the funds and so we're gonna see a lot of

2:54:18 pro-pride flag, pro-immigration kinds of stories are gonna still have Brooks and Capehart agreeing with each other. It's just downhill. Chuck Hernandez is chair of the Chicago Republican Party. There's not really an appetite to support those who come here, whether it be illegally or under a temporary program that was put in by Biden. He says the Trump administration has a right to enact its immigration policies. He says the arrivals from Venezuela have strained Chicago's resources. We're having right now in Chicago a real crisis.

2:54:57 crunch financially and then the amounts of Chicago taxpayer money going towards many of these groups, it's money that could be used towards citizens that should not be going towards these people that are here on a temporary type of basis. How do you respond to people who say T is for temporary? The issue here is not that they're dealing with tanks, they're dealing with human beings. And when a human being is afraid to go back And that really why the situation is here. That people has been told that Venezuela is getting better. Venezuela is not getting better. Venezuela is getting worse. I sympathize with them, but this was the fault of the Biden administration. By giving people false hope that you can come here. For their part, Venezuelans we spoke with said they feel a sense of deja vu. All over again.

2:55:54 Yes, so they're painting this as part of a long report and they have the cold-hearted Republican saying we can't afford this, it's just that simple. And then you have all these sympathetic voices that go on about, you know, it's just people, it's people! This is hard to fight, you know, this is the strategy you use. When you want to slam something, you abuse people. Sympathy, sympathy. In my country, there is no legal process. The United States was the first country to guarantee those freedoms. And now living through this situation, it feels the same as what happened in Venezuela, because they are not respecting the due process of the people.

2:56:41 In the meantime, many will continue to stay in the shadows, afraid of what lurks outside their front door. For the PBS NewsHour, I'm Fred de Sam Lazaro in Chicago. What about Mexico or Costa Rica or Brazil or Colombia or Ecuador? This is like the Palestinians. Nobody wants to take them? I guess. So we have to take them because nobody else will take them? Now you're sounding like a Republican. Why I sound like a Republican, but it's like they speak Spanish. They're in a continent. Yeah. Except for Brazil, which speaks Portuguese. But they're basically in a and you can make that transition. It's not that difficult. But they're in an entire continent of Spanish speakers all the way through up through Central America and Mexico.

2:57:40 And we have to take them? Yeah. It just doesn't make sense to me. No person is illegal. A person cannot be illegal. What's wrong with you? Do you not love people? You are a horrible man. Stolen land girl. I don't want to hear another white person say the word illegal for the rest of my goddamn life. We are living on stolen land. Our ancestors forcibly and violently seized this land from the indigenous peoples who were living here for generations before we ever showed up. We do not get to call them illegal. We don't own the fucking planet. Nobody does.

2:58:24 We are evolved monkeys with opposable thumbs who use them to write little monkey scribbles on a slice of tree and we call it a birth certificate with our little monkey sounds. All of it is made up, none of it is real and it doesn't fucking matter and it's certainly not a valid reason to rip a terrified screaming child away from his weeping mother and I am tired of being made to feel like I'm crazy for being angry about this. Capitalism is just narcissism as an economic system. Imperialism is just narcissism as a foreign policy. If the lion can't claim the safari for himself and call the elephant illegal, then neither the fuck can we!

2:59:07 Oh, that was interesting. If the lion can't... Let me just... I want to hear that thing. That was... That was interesting. Unbelievable. Let me hear that again. Capitalism is just narcissism as an economic system. Imperialism is just narcissism as a foreign policy. If the lion can't claim the safari for himself and call the elephant illegal, then neither the fuck can we! This is... Again, this makes me just very sad because she is very, very wound up about this. And I'm sure that she is not doing anything about it herself except screaming on TikTok. Which doesn't... Run for city council! Run for government! Yeah, do something, you do-nothing phony! That's what I call her. She's a phony. I don't feel sorry for her.

2:59:53 She's a big phony. Why don't you go do, like you said, become politically active if you feel so strong about this stuff. She wants to. Instead of yacking at TikTok. She needs a hug. All these people need hugs and love. Give me another. Give me another. Give me another. Well, this one I end up cutting off because she just goes on too much. But this is mom on the Z. This is mom Z girl up. Mom, what does that mean mom Z girl up? I don't even know anymore. I'm gonna start this video by saying that this is not the usual content I normally share on my page I had easily the most unsettling experience I've ever had as a mother this morning and I wanted to come here and share about it I'm actually feeling really shaken up inside by my boss now you remember now you remember yeah, well just the way that it works yes, I

3:00:44 I have found, this is only part of it, this is why I cut it off because I'm going to explain what it is. I have found at least 10 of these, exactly the same. It's exactly the same. I'm a mother and I was leaving the store and somebody came up to me and says, can you help me? Can I hold your baby while you move my car? Cause I can't get in the seat. There's always a million reasons that somebody comes up to me, holds the baby. There's always a van involved. There's a van parked here. And then the woman, the mother says, well, let's go inside the store. and we'll talk to a manager, maybe they can help you, and then they go inside the store, and then the woman disappears and gets into a van and drives off, because it was a scam. There is at least 10 of these videos out there, and this is just one example, and I don't know, that's why I have Z, it's an op.

3:01:36 Okay, but what kind of an op is this? Well, let's listen. I'm gonna start this video by saying that this is not the usual content I normally share on my page. I had easily the most unsettling experience I've ever had as a mother this morning and I wanted to come here and share about it I'm actually feeling really shaken up inside, but I'm doing my best not to translate that over camera because I'm not at all narcissistic It's not at all about me and about how I feel and how shaken up I am that I usually don't share this on my page But please look at me while I talk about me and my feelings I really don't want to spread fear to anybody. I just simply want to inform other mothers that this happened to me today and this is unfortunately happening and I saw a video maybe two months ago of a mom who had an almost identical experience and her sharing her experience, I believe, helped me know how to navigate this in the best and most productive way possible. So here goes. I went to Kroger around 9 a.m. this morning

3:02:30 broad daylight and I got out of my car with my daughter and a woman approached me. She said that she had parked her car too close to the car next to it and was unable to get back into her car to back it out. She asked me if I would back her car up for her and offered multiple times to hold my daughter while I backed her car up for her. When I looked to her car, I noticed her car was parked in one space and with about maybe a foot space in between there was an old beat-up van Parked on the other side of the driver's seat of her car I was very firm with her and said you will not be holding my child, but I offered to go inside and Okay, so there's a child rousting gig of some sort

3:03:15 But why is this video cropping up and it's in slightly different forms but it's basically the same story. Well I can tell you what this is. This happened to a really good friend of mine's brother, grandfather, uncle, but it's true. That's what this is. This is just people like I've got you know I usually have nothing to say on my page but I came here to talk about this on my page. Yeah you nailed it. I nailed it! Narcissism is a very, very dangerous drug. A lot of people are addicted to it and TikTok is the dealer. And now we will thank our donor. Remember, we still have Envishowmix coming up. We got John's tip of the day, apparently a wine tip, so this is one you want to stay tuned for. We have a meetup report. We have, we got lots of awards to hand out today. PhDs, we got Knights, we got title changes.

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3:17:48 Go hang out with all the nights and days. You wanna be where you won't be, triggered or held lame. You wanna be where everybody feels the same. It's like a party. Always like a party. Alright, we have end of show ISOs, which you always like to choose as kind of audience participation because people just send me stuff and I'm like, okay, I'll try to see what John thinks about it. Do you understand his stuff? Oh, that's how I get them. I never look for something myself. Never. They send me ISOs. Yeah, that's why mine are so bad.

3:18:28 Unless you went bad when she got today. They did dumps. They call them dumps. Big massive dumps. The biggest load that we've seen. There was a combo. It's too long, but it was nice. This is one we designed. I know, but he stitched it together. And so that's it. So yours is going to win by default. I have two. Oh, you have two? I only saw one. Oh, I'm sorry. You have an ISO and you have an ISP. Okay, you want me to play the ISO or the IST? Let's start with the ISO. I love you. President Trump, yes. All right, now play the IPS. Give this podcast a Pulitzer. Okay, that's done. That is the one. There's no doubt about it. And we go from that straight into John's tip of the day.

3:19:13 Created fast for you and me, just a tip with JCB. And sometimes Adam. Created by Dana Brunetti. Normally I don't, I do wine tips now on occasion. I don't do as many from Costco because, except for those Bordeaux boxes, because there's not, the distribution is sketchy. But once in a while they have a cheap wine that everybody has, I think, in most of the stores. And I'm recommending one. Okay. I was actually stunned, stunned I tell you, by the quality of this product. It's a California wine. And wait, this is available at Costco? Yeah.

3:19:57 I was actually stunned, stunned and more stunned. Before you even tell us, so how did you discover this? I mean you saw a bottle. I'm at Costco. Yeah, you're like that looks like crap but I'll try it anyway. Well it goes like this. Here's my methodology for buying rando wines. Rando wine? Yeah, well I said going by and I'm looking I say, well that labels screwy. That looks like, in fact it looks like an old-fashioned Geyser Peak label. It just has a different look for a Kirkland wine. It's a Kirkland wine. I'm looking at this is, oh it's $9.90.

3:20:37 You know in the pocket baby that's right in your price range. Let me look at it. Yeah, you know that's a cheap California Cabernet I'm thinking this can't be any good, but it's only nine bucks. Let me check it out. It's a stunner Really? I mean I was taken aback. This is the Kirkland Cabernet Sauvignon from Alexander Valley, which is a great little Cabernet growing area. Alexander Valley 2022. Oh, that's a good year for Cabernet. It's a good year for a lot of things and Bordeaux is a really good year. And so this wine for $9.90 or whatever it was, it's ridiculously, it's structured beautifully. Normally for that kind of money, California wines are flabby, they're not balanced correctly, they don't have the right flavors, the profiles are off. This is a stunner, I'm telling you.

3:21:32 Maybe I got just a good bottle as possible. I think but I would recommend this give this a shot Wow, well, I would say maybe you should try Aldi from time to time see if you can find something there I mean you you you just you're just finding all the good stuff at all the the the craziest places Yes. Yes, he said. Hey, now that's a very valuable tip and there's many more to be found at tipoftheday or noagendafund.com. That is John's Tip of the Day. Created by Dana Brunetti. That's right. Created by Dana Brunetti. Where would we be without Dana Brunetti? We would just be

3:22:17 Poor sappy podcasters now we have things created by a Hollywood expert and that does conclude our broadcast day here on no agenda Thank you for joining us. Thank you for participating. Thank you for trolling along. Thank you for supporting us We encourage support of the show to keep us rolling for more years NoahJenTheDonations.com Coming up next on your modern podcast app if you keep the stream running or to TrollRoom.io Ah, the MMO, the Millennial Media Offensive Episode 175. Love those kids. People like them a lot. They also do that show live, so catch them live when you can. End of show makes his classic from Brian Rudder and brand new from Mellow D.

3:23:03 We look forward to that. And we will be back on Thursday, hoping that President Trump does something crazy, so y'all tune in. And that's likely. Until then, coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, where they wrap Jesus in flags that is just sacrilegious. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak. Please join us on Thursday and remember us at noagendadonation.com. Until then, adios mofos, a hui hui and such! so

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3:25:44 The language that you heard when talking to Donald Trump has been cut short because of its flattery. Today you called him daddy. Today you called him daddy. Today you called him daddy. Did you feel you have to act when doing business with the US President through flattery and praise? Is it a bit demeaning and doesn't it make you regreet? Is it a bit demeaning and doesn't it make you regreet? No, I don't think so. I think it's a bit of a question of, uh, taste. I think he's a good friend, uh, and when he is, uh, doing stuff which is forcing us to, for example, when it comes to, uh, making more investments. The best podcast in the universe! Adios, mofo. Dvorak.org slash N-A-M-E

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