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00:00 Oh, there's no corruption in Mexico. And broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region Number 6. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry! And from Northern Silicon Valley where there's an atmospheric river...I don't know, I don't see it. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! Is it that time again for The Atmospheric River?

00:36 Supposedly, it's just supposed. I don't know maybe it's hitting someplace What's this supposed to bring? What is the atmospheric river half a foot? I have a foot of what? A brain for the water Oh rain oh half a foot But this has been going on since Friday night as well as gonna be bad Real bad. Yeah, I have not seen it. I mean it's been Basically the humidity is 100% so everything's soaking, but there's no rain. It's just wet! Oh because of the humidity? Well I don't know it was beyond that...I mean it's drizzling. That's what I think. I could say that you could call it drizzling like massive drizzling but it's not

01:21 But it's drizzling. It's ridiculous! Well, sticking with the climate change for just a moment today is the day February 2nd it's a very special day they've made movies about it Mayor de Blasio killed one of them but he still here ladies and gentlemen it's time for the annual prediction from Punxsutawney Phil Hear ye, hear ye, hear ye! This is a great American tradition by the way. Now on this February 2nd Punxsutawney Phil the seer of seers The prognosticator of all prognosticators was awakened from his wintry nap at dawn on Gobbler's Knob Gobbler's Knob? So look to the skies and then speaking in groundhoggy In the UK gobblers knob means something very different He has directed the president to the proper scroll which reads

02:10 What a way to start a Sunday fun day. Yeah! You always said you'd make it here one day, to this place barely big enough to contain ya... Get to it! To this sweet Punxsutawney Pennsylvania We're all here with the elements combined. Where mother nature meets father time. Yeah, let's go! To hear the truth are those gray skies? Only I know you can't trust AI It's Groundhog Day and maybe life is on a loop

02:54 But I miss my burrow. I miss my coop So, I'm headed back down There's a shadow up here Get ready for six more weeks of winter this year! Yeah! Yeah! So that stupid groundhog has only been right 39% of the time I mean a flip of the coin is better. Yeah, and logic doesn't make any sense if you think about it. Yeah! If it's sunny is when you think he'd be... Oh this good weather Why do we do that? I used to write about it. In fact, they used to put this in the newsletter and when i was writing for The Examiner... Is that the San Francisco Examiner? Yeah there was one time San Francisco Examiner became merged with The Chronicle eventually but I would always put a recipe for groundhog stew

03:47 the rest into them into the newspaper and there's are there are recipes. There's a good groundhog stew for actual Ground-up ground hog, I don't remember how the recipe goes. I don't think you have to grind him necessarily But it will say this like a brisket put him on the people out there looking for something to read that's entertaining There's a I think he came out of the one of the colleges back east, maybe North Carolina actually. It's a book called Unmentionable Cuisine Oh. And it was published in the 70s and Unmentionable Cuisine has recipes for everything. Oh, so like... Ants, rats... Road... road... what do you call it? Road kill! They have recipes for everything and they have the real burgoo recipe which is a squirrel stew Well I'm thinking

04:42 This is something for gate view publishing. I mean, you read too many eggs dot com now we're back for the sequel groundhogs squirrels and you name it? We just need to come up with a good name Yeah well people would buy that people would buy that I would with this plug i just gave that book their old book if they had two sales It'll be a miracle But it does bring me to what I was going to think is gonna be the clip of the day. We're talking about food. Yeah Which is my TikTok clip. Black history girl. You're gonna start with Tik Tok right off the bat? Black history girl. I know that this wasn't common knowledge, and if you didn't know this that means you don't follow me but white people have always indulged in cannibalism they ate their slaves and they ate black people that were free after the Emancipation Proclamation after lynchings If you didn't know this you don't follow me And if you don't follow me you should follow me My name's Kimistry, I teach black history

05:40 And just like everything else on my page, I'm not just feeding you a bunch of bullshit. There are a plethora of books that you can look into that proves that this is a fact. Books like The Delectable Negro which covers recipes for how to eat black people... Another book called Edible People. The historical consumption of Negroes and foreigners, and I believe it was like the cannibalistic trade And that's just two of many But yeah if you want to know more about this topic if you scroll down on my page I have a video called white people ate black people is very very informative all right All right, I owe him a call anyway. I gotta call Moe about this Let me find out gotta go straight to the source Find out if this true or not

06:20 Somebody the comments on this particular woman was pretty interesting because I guess the The first book she mentions is actually just some sort of homoerotic tale And it has nothing to do with anything, but more like a Jeffrey Dahmer type deal. Yeah Well It is of course Black History Month and That's why I played that clip. Yeah, it was good It wasn't clip of the day but it was no No you can expect to get a day You can't roll out the clip and they right away although you have done it happens from time to time This of course is the shortest month of the calendar year which Mo always complains about Thanks says thanks give us the shortest month But there's not the timing of everything was really impeccable and I am going to give you props

07:12 I think you were spot on. Well, you already called it right after the election You said the Democrat Party of the United States are going to die on the hill Of...I'll just collectively say DEI It's, you know LGBTQ goes in there Everything is in there and I know that you have the clips but to lead up to it And it's cynical to think this way But I think President Trump figured this out. He honey-potted the Democrat Party by coming out after the horrific DCA air crash and now he may have some, I mean there's a lot of information coming about the third pilot she was a woman we presume that means female but it was like only 450 out! Simmer down everybody

08:14 You know, if you have 450 consecutive hours you're going to be a pretty good pilot. I thought she had 500? Well...500! You know, there's a saying in aviation. The most dangerous moment for pilot is 300 hours because then you kind of think you got it all down and everything but if you're doing four, 450, 500 consecutive hours of training on type, you're going to be good pilot I've flown with female military marine pilots. There's no reason to think they are better or worse than any other now there's a lot of question why did they withhold her name? Why did they scrub her social media

08:52 It's fine. It doesn't really matter, what matters is that the colloquial left has taken what Trump said and is just running with the ball in all kinds of crazy directions and the most insane was smirconish on CNN? who is going to, well here's his claim. This all coming after the tragic Black Hawk and American Airlines collision that killed 67 people near Reagan National Airport on Wednesday night a chilling collision above the Potomac upended after the consular in chief pivoted and began playing the blame game and speculating while providing no evidence that diversity and hiring policies of prior administrations somehow caused this tragedy

09:40 The FAA's website states they include hearing, vision, missing extremities partial paralysis complete paralysis epilepsy severe intellectual disability psychiatric disability and dwarfism all qualify for the position of a controller of airplanes. The FAA website shows that the agency's guidance on diversity hiring were last updated on March 23rd of 22, they wanted to make it even more so and then I came in and I assume maybe this is the reason...the FAA

10:20 which is overseen by Secretary Pete Buttigieg. A real winner. The problem with air traffic controllers, they can't actually qualify anybody to become an air traffic controller. So the issue now as we know we have many air traffic controllers in our Gitmo nation that are overworked because of these stupid qualifications, no one is good enough. No one gets certified. No one gets through to become an actual air traffic controller so the danger is not in a DEI higher controlling traffic in our airspace the danger is there's not enough of them because of their policy. Staffing is the danger. Now here

11:13 Is Smirkonish's take on why the president did this? Despite any evidence supporting his conjecture, the President doubled down and with the support of the Vice-President, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of Transportation he produced a shiny object. DEI, which dominated the Thursday news cycle. A debate over DEI now filled airspace that would otherwise have been focused on the confirmation hearings occurring that day on Capitol Hill featuring the most controversial remaining nominees of President Trump There was Tulsi Gabbard tapped to be Trump's director of national intelligence who refused to say whether or not she thinks Edward Snowden is a traitor FBI Director nominee Kash Patel who fielded questions about a retribution and enemies list

11:54 RFK Jr., Trump's nominee to be the next Secretary of Health and Human Services, seemed to struggle a bit when answering a basic question about Medicare. Three nominees who could potentially be in charge of our security and health—they all took a back seat to a torrent of unproven rhetoric and speculation That night, President Trump's unfounded speculation about the DEI was welcomed on Fox News. And no doubt many Americans working jobs with limited bandwidth to verify their information they went to bed thinking 67 people died because of a government initiative which they think discriminates against whites and had caused some unfit minority to get hired for a job resulting in negligence and costing lives

12:37 I'm too cynical to accept coincidence. I think President Trump wanted to own the news cycle like he wants to own every new cycle and this time He sought the added political benefit of raising questions over whether a minority was at fault for the DC catastrophe So no, you never said minority but here's the crazy thing so smirk onish his complaint is This is CNN at work. His complaint is that Trump did this, President Trump did this to distract from the nominee hearings and to just make sure no one knows what's going on with these crazy people and subsequently

13:17 He goes on to do one of his stupid polls about this DEI stuff instead of talking about the thing he says we're being distracted from. It brings me to today's poll question at spurtonish.com Do you believe President Trump's blaming of DEI for the Washington crash was a deliberate attempt to shift focus from the congressional confirmation hearings? Well, what do you think? What do you think his phony baloney poll would say? Well with the CNN audience and since we already know that these polls are phony baloney bogus it was definitely is yeah. Yeah, there's gotta be a big yes. Alright there's the voting so far at smirconish.com Wow round numbers 70-30 yes what are the chances exact round numbers nearly 40 thousand have voted agreeing with me that the whole

14:08 What he should have said, this is a record. The entire audience voted! We've never had this happen before. Agreeing with me that the whole injection into the conversation of DEI in the aftermath of that catastrophe was just a shiny object to take our attention away from the Capitol Hill hearings? I'm not often in the majority on my polls. I'm not even sure what to say right now. Oh yes and then he went on. It's unlikely there isn't know what to say. He went on and on, and I want to play one more before you get to your DNC clips because that was just amazing what happened there. Here's Capehart doing his thing! Now turning to President Trump's response to this major tragedy just a day after the aircraft collision Trump blamed without any evidence his familiar scapegoats the previous administration's NDEI

15:02 I put safety first, Obama Biden and the Democrats put policy first. And they put politics at a level that nobody's ever seen. They put up big push to put diversity into the FAAs program. They actually came out with a directive too white and we want the people that are competent. I'm trying to figure out how you can come to the conclusion right now that diversity has something to do with this crash because of common sense, okay? No not okay. Not okay. President Trump's assertion according to the Federal Aviation Administration there are rigorous standards for hiring pilots mechanics and air traffic controllers and there is no evidence that those were lower than adversity goals

15:54 So folks, let's call out the president's response for what it really is. Racist! It's racist now? Okay, K-Party is great so they fell for it and this as cynical as it is I really believe the president made a very calculated smart move. Uh...it IS an issue, it HAS been an issue uh...the workforce is not large enough for that air traffic controllers But he does this on the eve of this DNC nominating process. And subsequently, the M5M falls for it. They just fall for it and every single American identifies with an air disaster and they don't care I mean even...I'm sure if you go out on the street and talk to Democrats would be like Would you like a DEI hired to be running the ATC? They'll all say no! They may lie to you in front of camera but you know how everyone feels It was a genius move cynical but a genius move

16:57 I like the idea that it's cynical because, uh...I'm not thinking in those terms with Trump but i think i can do that. I think i can think of that he's cynical and he's an ex- and in this case exploitative yes And he doesn't care, he's not running for re-election so he does stuff. Yeah! He's gonna do stuff for the next four years that is going to drive people nuts I have some clips about that too. But give me the DNC because i'm just excited... Before we go too far astray I don't want to lose out on the Hexith issue since you mentioned Black History Month before you got into that clip

17:37 And I have to play this. This is Hegseth... Sorry, I'm sorry you play it yeah. Hours before the start of Black History Month the Defense Department declared cultural awareness months at the Pentagon dead. Dead? Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said celebrations of Black History Month women's history month and the like divide the force and erode camaraderie He went on to say service members may only attend these celebrations in an unofficial capacity. The guidance is effective immediately." I like that he calls it camaraderie, think it's comradery? Anyway... Yeah, well they cancelled all of it. You know I have pronounced it both ways too but he canceled all of the... No we just canceled it all this guy is a short timer I guarantee you. Well you think? I'm digging him so far! I like him but if he goes two years I'll be stunned okay and that's because they just just that pushback will be just outrageous because people it's just too much for these guys So the DNC had their little

18:41 Shindig and it was played on MSNBC for some I you know, what do you guys see? It was their deal. It was it was their whole I mean it showed the complete collusion between the two Oh yes They had joy read K part was there your buddy K party my buddy And then the redhead. Yes sake oh Saki, but sake everybody was there so they had a bunch of people David Hogg was there and he ran for I'm gonna start with the easy ones and go to the best one at the end So I got one or one two One two three five. There's a lot eclipse with their short But David hog is who ended up getting them getting the number of votes that to get advice Let's remind everybody who David Hogg is

19:30 David Hogg is this character that came out of the Parkland shooting in Florida. Yeah, and he became kind of a quasi celebrity amongst the Democrats And here's an anti-gun guy kid He stole I think a kid he's in this early 20s. I think early yeah, isn't his twenties? And he is kind of a... He's not as bad as some of these guys, but he's one of these kinds you would call him a beta. You call him a crisis actor John. A beta male! He has gotten really good. He reminds me of... The troll room is going to have to come up with this name because I was trying to think of it the other day and normally I can come up with these names

20:11 The guy used to be a right winger, kind of... I don't know if you'd call him handsome but he's very presentable guy. Saw a young guy and it was a Christian character who pushed and pushed and pushed. He did a lot of grassroots stuff, a lot of astro-turist stuff. Oh the guy with the long hair? No he didn't have long hair. He was well coiffed He was young looking, name was like Christopher something. I just can't remember his name and he got busted for being with a whore or something. I don't remember the exact problem he ended up with some chick that involves something

20:56 He scarfed with some money. There was some scandal and he just disappeared off the face of the earth. The troll room is suggesting John Stamos, but I don't think that is correct. Yeah well that's the best thing...I'll come up with this guy's name but this guy reminds me of that kind of guy because he only comes to the patter. He's picked up a professional politician's patter, this hog guy and here he is—this is the DNC David Hogg clip where he's promoting himself to be the vice chair Are you ready to go on the offense? Are you ready to go on the offense? We have to win back our young people. I am the only candidate in this race for any of these positions that is under 30, we had a 20 point shift to the right of our young people. We must show our young people! We give a damn about them that we support them and we invest in them. I have raised over 11 million dollars in the past year to support the future of our party because I don't just tweet, I do not just talk the talk

21:54 I also walk the walk and knock the knock on doors across the country, but I'm counting on you in this moment right now. I need your support! Please vote for me! Thank you so much! Nice I walked the walk. I talked to talk and knocked the knock got an attitude for gratitude connection is protection whoo, baby He's a DJ for gratitude. Yeah, you get together you guys have Write some material for that's right. Yeah he needs it desperately And you actually got the votes huh? That's he got two votes Yes So he's even another guy both got the vote so there's two of co-chairs I guess hmm

22:36 Now I have, here's the typical is what's going on and you gave me a little kudos earlier for predicting some of this but the hill that Democrats are gonna die on includes what we're gonna hear here. This is like a section where the guy comes on with some rules. Yeah his name is... Gender rules His name is... What's his name? Hold on second I'll have it here He is I can't remember his name. Well, that's okay it's not important but here he is going on and on about gender rules yeah Jamie Harrison that's who gets Jamie Harrison Rules specify that when we have a gender non-binary candidate or officer

23:25 The non-binary individual is counted as neither male nor female and the remaining six officers must be gender balanced. Okay, I'm following With the results of the previous four elections our elected officers are currently two male and two female In order to be gender balanced we must elect one male one female and one person of any gender So again, this is what we have to do for this vice chair race. We have to elect one male and one female and one person of any gender

24:05 To ensure our process accounts for male, female and non-binary candidates we conferred with our RBC cochair, our LGBT caucus co chair and others to ensure that the process is inclusive and meets the gender balance requirements in our rules. Okay? To do this, our process will be slightly different than the one outlined earlier this week but I hope you will see that in practice it's simple and transparent The order of balloting is designed to ensure equal access to the ballot, regardless of gender identity. As we must elect a candidate of any gender as well one male and one female vice chair We will first ask members to elect a candidate on the first ballot Any candidate male, female or non-binary can be elected on that ballot

24:53 After a candidate is elected on the first ballot, we'll have one officer of the three so then we will know which position is filled by one male and female and vice chair. Our second ballot would also be for any gender. Then our third ballot will be the third position that's remaining based upon two results Either a male candidate if a candidate that is not male has not been elected or female candidate if a female has not been elected. Dude, and the crazy thing is they picked two cracker white guys. Everyone was a cracker white guy! That's the funny thing But did you see some of the candidates who were up there saying vote for me? Well...

25:42 I get that's where the kicker will come in. Oh, okay all right i'll leave it yeah you don't have to coach me on this all right I got the goods because one of our guys one of our producers sent me a good rundown was getting good Was it Madison Cawthorn who you're thinking of who wound up in the wheelchair and then was at sex parties? Was that the one you're thinking of no no no this guy was oh man is Milo Yiannopoulos No he's not gay It doesn't matter. It's a very famous guy and it's just the tip of my tongue, and this really irks me because everyone... you know I can pretty good at this Steve Bannon? Yeah that's it! A good-looking guy with well coiffed Steve Bannon. And I don't think so

26:33 Guy looks like he's rolled out of bed 100% of the time. So here is another one, during this discussion some I think it was a guy, dude in a dress? It could have been an ugly woman, whatever it was, it was a very irked looking person. I don't know the gender or anything else but this clip is called D&D, this is easy to find. Oops sorry and this is her, she it they them going on and demanding the following. Okay the next person is Carol Abney who is a Tennessee DNC member go ahead Carol We all know that red states need extra help so my question is for all of you for the past 16 years the transgender community has only gotten one at-large seat each time

27:22 Will you pledge to appoint more than one transgender person to an at-large seat, and will you commit to making sure those appointments reflect the gender and ethnic diversity of the transgender community? Since Carol wanted us to ask this of everybody then I want to give Mr. Paul an opportunity because it's good to be fair for everyone to speak more is there as would everybody here commit to that or anyone who would raise your hand if he would commit to what she just asked Okay. All hands went up! Hey, but wait a minute... We've got to figure out what NBC is doing here I mean we know they're being spun off we know that there's all kinds of issues are they going to the Democrat Party and saying just make us our you know let's make it official and just pay us or what does i mean they didn't do this for free? I presume like oh this great well it is great content for the show they're working for us

28:15 But what is that connection? Why would they do this? You know, I was baffled by it myself. It's desperate desperation... When you say MSDNC now it's just a fact! It's very strange that they went for this. You know, maybe there is something afoot you might have stumbled onto something here There may be something afoot where they actually stay on the air as an independent spinco is the name of the company Who do you work for? Here is my new card Spinco The Spinco Company may keep them on the air and cable because they're already assigned to certain if your are a cable provider in some area

28:58 But how poetic is it that MSNBC is owned by a company called Spinco, a news organization. Yeah, I mean... It's pretty funny So it's possible that they would just stay on the air as a mouthpiece for the Democrat Party. Why not? Well, I mean there is money there so they should do something And their just pathetic though They're for hire This was like watching Capehart and Joy Reid and The Redhead Saki Saki yacking away here and Capehart is the absolute worst Here's Capehart this is the DSA Capehart because he needs to set up

29:39 This is the, they went through a series of questions where they asked people various just generalized questions and they all raised their hands. And whatever they asked everybody raised their hands this was like The Idiots that ran for the for the democrat primaries. Presidency, yeah presidency a couple years ago when they said will you give free health care to all the immigrants and they looked at each other and they all raised their hands like idiots exactly so they're doing the same thing now they're all raising their hands like idiots and I thought that this particular question was And because what's interesting about this one is at the very end, they all raise their hands and the audience all raised their hands to this one. In this round so I'm going to have a show of hands how many of you believe that racism and misogyny played a role in Vice President Harris' defeat? Okay! So that's good you all pass

30:47 Wow. K-Part, he's from NBC News? He's not just MSNBC is he? No no he's not for...no I thought it was with the big boys with that with the mothership. No no he's on PBS Oh he's out they're all out! He's on PBS and MSNBC i don't think..I've never seen him on NBC hmm he is the associate editor of The Washington Post and he's really a embarrassment to journalism as far as I'm concerned. He's super one-sided He's a big fan, and gosh just a pathetic character. So here we have this is the DNC new chair clip Okay There's a new chairman of the Democratic Party as it comes to grips with Republican control over the White House in both houses of Congress

31:30 Ken Martin, the Minnesota party leader won on the first ballot getting 32 more votes than the majority he needed. Martin has pledged to refocus the party's message on working class voters and improve the party's rapid response to President Trump What does this guy have? I mean he is pasty white from Minnesota Yeah, something's going on with Minnesota. What is this Minnesota? What is the appeal of that guy if I have no idea and there's a couple clips of him online that are just like embarrassing but okay so it so this is the last clip and that was from PBS obviously or in yeah PBS so

32:07 This is the last clip and this to me was epitomized what really this thing was classic. This thing was a joke, this DNC moment. Yeah it was. And so they're gonna say okay here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna have you each introduce yourselves one at a time and this is the group for the chair and there was one black woman five white dudes, a mixed race person and one white woman. So you had eight people up there And so it starts off with the black woman, who I have to wonder whether she was looking around and saying this is really... I don't know why any blacks are buying into any of this DNC stuff. Maybe she's goofing here but this is the first thing when you introduce yourself you go I'm John C. Dvorak blah blah blah blah did this and that in the Army no agenda show and then you get introduced yourself but here's the way and this to me was the epitome of the entire event

33:11 was this woman's introduction of herself. And we'll begin with the opening statements, each candidate will have 30 seconds and we'll start with Dr. Quintessa Hathaway Good evening everyone it is my desire to be the next DNC chair and I just want to give you all a little bit of something that has been on my heart here over the last couple days You fight on! you fight on when your gun is doing you wrong, you fight on oh you fight on. Thank You Dr. Hathaway That's that I think that something from the black church actually that song well obviously one of these

34:09 Gospel songs of some sort, but what's that got to do with introducing yourself? And why would you do that in front of this lily white audience of non-binaries. Extra points man! Now I'm thinking about it Ken Martin might be non binary He has kind of that look Yeah could be That androgynous look He has a Buddha judge he is like a Buddha judge type dude So the Democrat, this is the Democrat party and they're wondering... And I think the kicker in the whole thing was you know how many people think that Kamala Harris lost because of misogyny and sexism. Sexism and racism and they all said yeah that's the reason

34:57 And they're gonna, and then they ever think when it is transgender stuff and non-binary. And they've just gone off the rails with this stuff. People always ask me I had a back and forth with a few friends of mine of the liberal persuasion. Oh please! They still talk to you? No no not them. This is a big shot. I was confused and it was like what is that? What are the Democrats gonna do? What can we do? It's just like there's no, is there any anybody on the horizon to fix this? No! They know they're in a pickle, The smart ones yeah and they can't get out of it because they're in a there is like in a nosedive And they can't get out of it Yeah, it's really sad

35:46 It's really sad. Well, what is somewhat sad about it is that gives the... I mean, I'm not complaining necessarily but Republicans really can't be given a free rein What do you mean? Oh because we need some good pushback We need some pushback You can't just go nuts And if this, you know after Trump's first four years of J.D. Vance gets in who is a sharper character than Trump and younger and more kind of not as quite as conniving and interesting to say the least. Conniving! But he could hold the thing for another eight years Yeah. Then after that who knows but the Democrats have nothing going on

36:33 Not the way this is happening. Anyway, I think the honeypot was successful. You know it threw everybody over and like oh we got to go nuts over this is very very yeah you're right It's disturbing like read the room you know the country read The Room of The Country well so speaking of MSNBC And how they've completely tied themselves to? the DNC There's some interesting things happening, which we have been harping on for years. Literally years and that is about the funding we've mainly talked about NPR but I think we might have still had a

37:24 syndicated radio show because I remember us talking about how the people who sell airtime for NPR, which when you think about it shouldn't be sold as commercial air time but they are the exact same people the same salespeople who sell commercial radio air time and that's not so how it supposed to work And it's always kind of been skirting the edge I think of the rules and this clip goes back to, I think This is 2017. It may not even been the first time we played it Who was the name of the lady who was then running NPR at the time? I forget Yeah she still floating around in Hollywood

38:06 Yeah, you're right. I can't remember her name offhand unfortunately because it doesn't come up enough but... Well this is 2017 when uh... I think you're right. This actually is before that. I think the 2017 is the latest version we played. Redux probably And here she was talking about their revenues being down, but here's how she described it. Okay moving on to money How are NPRs corporate underwriting revenues holding up in the recession and what about foundation grants? Two different stories. Underwriting is down, it's down for everybody I mean this is the area that is most down for us is in sponsorship underwriting advertising call it whatever you want. Call it whatever you want!

38:57 So the whole idea of underwriting for NPR and PBS, I'm going to focus on NPR for a moment since that's what we've always been following is that you can sponsor. It's not even a sponsorship it's an underwriting which means... Which is a term she when she said advertising whatever want to call it underwriting and I worked for public radio myself Underwriting, I think it's just a misnomer and I think it's a workaround for this law. It is in the law that if you're public broadcaster you cannot take advertising. No! I think its'a work around always has been but they've been pushing the limits If anyone listens to NPR recently there are out-and-out advertisements on that network

39:49 Yes, the whole point being that you as a corporation if you donate to NPR which is a non-profit organization. You can write that off as a tax expense, as a good deed, a gift if you will and Always at issue, I looked this up actually and the IRS has some kind of fuzzy language because here's what they say is the issue. The problem presented by the issue of corporate sponsorships is distinguished qualified sponsorship payments and the associated acknowledgement of donors from the sale of advertising and thus the payment being treated as unrelated business income so on one hand it breaks the 501c3 rules

40:38 that the IRS recognizes for NPR. On the other hand, simultaneously that makes it difficult for those corporations to write it off and take the tax benefit from that Anyway, Brendan Carr who is the new FCC chief. Praise God we got this guy in! Not so much for what he's doing with NPR but just in general it was kind of going nuts that other lady was going all into the internet and you remember she was like oh yeah we're gonna only allow legal traffic and we'll see what Brendan Carr does but so far he's been focusing on public media And of course NPR wouldn't be NPR if they didn't do a segment about themselves

41:17 Now, some news about public media. The new head of the Federal Communications Commission under President Trump has ordered an investigation of NPR and PBS. He is focusing on the corporate underwriting spots that you hear on shows like this one. And their media correspondent... By the way there was zero underwriting mentioned in front of this report funny huh? on shows like this one. NPR media correspondent David Fulkenflik joins me now and before I bring in David, I'd like to note NPR has rules for reporting when we report on ourselves among them no corporate official no news executive has had a hand in this coverage unlike all other coverage apparently Wow you know that's kind of funny admission

42:05 Because she, you know it's like oh okay. In this report we can't... In this particular report? But play that little bit at the end again because there is something in there that got my attention. Folk and Flick joins me now and before I bring in David I do want to note NPR has rules for reporting when we report on ourselves among them no corporate official or news executive has had a hand in this coverage Okay, no news executive. Yes well no corporate No corporate either said no corporate But why was that news executive not have a hand news executives are the editors aren't they you would think? Editors look at everything that's what they do That's their job is to make sure that the material is like dip

42:51 Well, in this case Marie Louise is freewheeling it. She's doing whatever she wants to do! She's out of control! With that David what is this investigation about? Well Marie Louise on its face involves concerns raised by the new FCC chairman Brendan Carr elevated by President Trump to that position uh... about the question of whether are underwriting spots just as you say the ones that we hear on shows like this on on npr and on pbs stations as well are veering into becoming crossing the lines in fact into becoming prohibited commercial advertisements for example if he hears something like toyota uh... you know is underwriting uh... npr in stations like this they can't see go by a terseller some other to a car they can say you can learn more on our website here's what you can do have

43:40 call for action and there are other restrictions as well. That's a call for action! I know he is completely wrong on this, you cannot say go to our website that's exactly... Going to the website is a call for action. That's right. How much more clear can it be than GO TO? If they had a news editor this piece would never have aired this way Because the news editor like you and I would have said ho-ho-ho, you can't say that. We got one of our producers...I don't have it in front of me but he said we're at such a disadvantage against commercial radio Well yeah! You're not commercial radio So the other guys they can do all kinds of stuff promo codes, code Bongino And we can't do any of that? Well no! The whole... That's the idea of public broadcasting They get given a whole chunk of airways for free

44:27 Yes to do this to do this sort of work and now they're bitching. Well, I want it be a commercial radio station Hey go buy some go by frequency someplace else and go become one What what are you complaining? How do you complain about this? This was that they tried just like us complaining about Oh where we don't have any advertising if you want to advertise when they do the show differently We can do that on YouTube with came with video. Yeah, well look at microphone cans Well, this is I mean we can just look at this from a historical perspective. This is why NPR threw so much money and resources at podcasting not understanding that the only way podcasting works is the way we do it

45:12 with very little resources. They had, you remember like radio labs and they had 25 people working on that one show? Yeah it's ridiculous! No we do it through volunteerism too. We have the resources Yes well we're basically NPR properly done Actually yes Except when people donate to us You can't write it off as a donation to a non-profit and then you can plug your gigawatt coffee or whatever you got going. It's a loophole! They found the loophole Yes they have, the loophole is so big he could turn a 747 around in it Can't say go buy a Tercel or some other Toyota car They can say you can learn more on our website and here's what you can do You can't have a call for action And there are other restrictions as well Unbelievable And that's what he's doing there It's worth also remembering

45:59 The FCC doesn't directly regulate networks like NPR and PBS. What it does is regulate... What's the laughter, bro? They do what they mean they don't directly regulate what does that even mean? What's the laughter for I dunno Doesn't directly regulate networks like NPR and PBS What it does is regulate the member stations which even in this digital age have to get licenses approved by the FCC To broadcast their you know news airwaves that are owned otherwise by the public Okay, so what he's saying is they don't actually regulate the content which is true. A lot of this done by was it PMX I think or what does American APM? American Public Media those are commercial outfits they produce it commercially they get paid the member stations pay for that content which they of course have...I don't know the prices maybe some of our producers could tell us a betcha too expensive. I'll bet you just to expensive

46:55 And that's what they should be focusing on. Give me an NPR station, I'll change it! Nova, Frontline. Those two shows for example they are not cheap shows. Well that's why they have Archer Daniel Midlands and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. They got the big boys supporting them there you know it's important we had do some more pharma stories I mean it's so corrupt Anyway, are they doing it right? What have NPR and PBS said in response to this investigation Well as my chances always Mary Louise didn't point out. I'm not speaking for NPR I'm just the guy paid by NPR to cover it but our handsomely paid on my point out half a million dollars a year Handsomely pay to do this that guy was making it decade makes half a million dollars most most of these people do

47:54 Most of the I think the top ten people at NPR who are on air make four and a half to five. Oh, yeah I just showed up right fine But then don't complain if you don't have enough money to cover it point out. I'm not speaking for NPR I'm just the guy paid by NPR to cover it but our chief executive Catherine McNair as well as the head of PBS Paula Kirger both say look Our programming and our underwriting messages comply with the law, they comply with federal regulations and they comply as we've tried to do for decades with the guidelines that the FCC itself has given us. To make sure that were going on a straight narrow, that were staying within the rules in both of them had said

48:35 Essentially, they're confident that this review or inquiry will ultimately affirm that they're adhering to these rules. These would have real consequences for our, you know, these 1500 public broadcasting stations around the country that are licensed by the FCC but You know, they're saying we think that we do it right and you know presumably if their tweaks are suggested they would live with that too. Oh yeah well take your tweaks I mean the it comes down to this difference so if we had a law firm It would be okay for NPR in California To say this program is brought to you by the Curry Dvorak Law Firm The problem is what they do is

49:17 This program is brought to you by the Curry-Dvorak law firm serving Californians and Texans since 1938. See, that's the problem." David Stilwell Yeah...that's minimum. David Stilwell But that's what they do! David Stilwell I know they do all of it yeah. Yeah. All right, what's at stake here? Sarah McIntyre David just back up and give us a sense of the broader stakes here I think it's really important, you know. In some ways you've got this specific inquiry being raised by Chairman Carr but it fits into his call which he made expressly in his letters to the heads of NPR and of PBS that he basically wants there to be an elimination of all government funding from the federal government for public Broadcasting, and he said he's basically gonna share what he finds with lawmakers on Capitol Hill as they debate that very issue Trump tried without success several times to cut that funding during his first term in office And it of course fits into this broader assault rhetorically by President Trump and his allies

50:13 on the mainstream media. Trump has taken to the courts to go against major networks and major news organization, he's made clear that he intends to use bureaucratic regulatory levers as well this is one of them so you see this really in some ways an attack on public broadcasting federal funding a questioning of its private funding you know, creating more hostile climate for media writ large. Yeah yeah, hostile to media writ large... Let's stop and take one make mention of one thing PBS And NPR, PBS worse I think than NPR ever since Gwen Ifill died. Yes agreed we're sad. Our mouthpiece is for the Democrat Party there's no question about it we've analyzed these stories and we play them on the show and we go and when you see it point by point if you go to my favorite thing which I like to ridicule which is the Brooks and Capehart bit

51:10 comedy show on the NewsHour every Friday. Who's on first, Brooks or Capehart? And they go on agreeing with each other about how what a dick Donald Trump is and that's the whole analysis and we've seen it before where they have two sides of the same argument There's not two sides to an argument, but they take an argument and put two people on it that are on the same side. And they debate each other about... there's no other opposing views. It is classic because they have no opposing views on PBS about a number of topics.

51:48 It's all anti-Republican is what it amounts to. The funny thing is, do you remember that I did a...I think was a speech or keynote or roundtable for NPR and Yarrow Moen was there? Yarrow formerly known as... I vaguely remember this story He's the guy that hired me at MTV when he was known as Lee Masters everybody! MME Lee Masters in the afternoon and then he became Yaron Mon. Yeah, Lee Masters right? The Lee Masters story yes and um at Lee was I liked him a lot he was a good guy he didn't like the guy who came in John Reardon screwed him screwed him right out of his MTV CEO position it was his buddy too is quite quite ugly how that went down

52:36 But Lee had done a good thing because Lee is a commercial kind of guy. He had gotten $100 million, what do you call it? Endowment from some old bag who had 100 million dollars and he secured that. Some old bag! Come on! Are we sure are doing this? I don't know, I don't know. We're ageists, were horrible from some old bag and it was a hundred million dollars, and they squandered that on podcasting. That's what happened! And by the way NPR as podcasts perfectly fine

53:16 It's a very good idea pare it down to get down to small teams. Oh, they have it over there so Overproduced not but you know like you know NPR has a certain sound that we like there everyone likes the ridiculousness on this guy We can use a dead sound dead room Close micing the whole thing good afternoon Look Look, look. Although you have squeaky voices coming on more and more that the low testosterone voices and kind of dingbat women but besides that You know, the classic sound is a certain kind of a classic sound. Yes you gotta... NPR. And you hear a lot of breathing. Yes, NPR that's right everybody. Look! You could put Heather and what's the other? The Weinstein team on there like NPR. Oh yes well we're talking about this horrible COVID restrictions Exactly but the point I was gonna make was

54:14 The NPR sound is actually worsened by their podcast. Their podcasts on more NPR, it's like everybody's on a podcast and an NPR podcast to me seems like guys auditioning to be on NPR Oh it's where the farm team goes absolutely Yeah sure they're all that you know the D-League You want to be on the air where really nobody listens? They're going out of their way. They put a lot of work into it, a lot extra work they got extra producers... It's a money loser! And so everybody just wants to move up to the A-team and they will, and the A team's filled with a bunch of low testosterone squeaky voices. So here once again is the opportunity jump in with your hyperlocal podcast you can take the audience from any small town burg or even city easily

55:06 easily by doing just stuff about your city where you live, NPR will be gone. They have the capability they have the people but they'd have to make less money and they would have to spend less I mean i can produce the way they produce I could produce radio labs I could do that He just did it. Yeah, see that's how you do it! Radio labs! Radio labs! Radio labs... Yeah I did that on the fly don't even have to edit it so they're all gonna be doing podcasts pushing buttons I guarantee you that the next so-called M5M person who goes through a podcast will be from NPR and I hope its Brooke Gladstone

56:01 The people that are in NPR right now, they're not high profile enough and Brook Gladstone is like this B-level in terms of profile. There's nobody except for John Yang maybe or... You don't need a profile! You don't need a profile. No, no... The next person that becomes a podcaster is going to be another mainstream media network dude like Chuck Chip Todd But look when we started KnowAgenda it took us four or five years before there was any question of quitting the day job We built it up I had a profile you had a profile what does it take? Grinding baby

56:42 Grinding! You gotta grind to make it work. You can't just waltz in, the media landscape doesn't work like that anymore I hooked up the TV and this never has worked like that. I hooked up the TV in the studio. Oh why? Because you're gonna be watching TV while doing a show no it's off now I don't do that while doing the show Tariff, Trump concedes there may be some pain over sweeping US tariffs. Okay breaking breaking You know but I and you just so you just hit it and you say configure It's a Samsung old one is probably five years old Samsung and then says select your network So I you know, I selected my by internet to Wi-Fi And it went through in about five minutes

57:26 It got me 600 over-the-air DTV channels. It got all kinds of... 600? Yeah, 546 I think. You have 500 broadcasters in the... Signals yeah! Coming into Fredericksburg? Yes. I only have 120, and in the San Francisco Bay Area and i'm right by the towers Yeah but I am near San Antonio and Austin there's a lot of different people There is Chinese, tons of Latin stuff 500? But yeah one station may have 5 or 6 different channels No I understand how it works 546! One station can have five sub-channels beside the point

58:08 I got all kinds of stuff, but besides that then Samsung loaded up all kinds of Samsung TV Pluto you know no No, that was in addition. It wasn't it? No I know I My LG set does that to and he had to turn that off because they'd only do that That's a scam just by our money channels spy on me Yeah, because you have to agree to a bunch of spyware. Yes! To watch those bullcrap channels I turn them off. I just got an email they're asking for $2,000 in Bitcoin because they saw what i was doing at my studio the TV is watching me anyway My point is that there is no more monopoly No one cares about linear based media

58:50 people, the whole gaping hole is the locals. There's nothing local when we had Snowmageddon in Austin, the NPR station had hi it's Brooke Gladstone this American life that I had to go to like the top 40 station only The Morning Show because the rest was all syndicated no one does anything local anymore so they've all priced themselves out of the market and then funny enough when Marco Rubio Our Secretary of State goes out to do his very first interview. Very first interview! Who does he choose? Who? Megyn Kelly! Oh, well good for her There was a conference call between President Trump and the Danish Prime Minister Apparently didn't go very well Reportedly involved some sort of meltdown on the prime minister's part

59:43 They don't want to give it up. So what does that, what options does that leave us? Because President Trump did not rule out economic or potentially military use. Well I think President Trump's... What he has said publicly is he wants to buy it He wants to pay for it. And how we worked on something like that, how something like that is approached obviously has probably done better in the appropriate forms as a lot of this stuff is done publicly and it's not helpful because it puts the other side in a tough spot domestically. So those conversations are going to happen but this is not a joke. Like what he saying- It's not a joke! Is pretty accurate people talk about it for years. We do have This is not about acquiring land for the purpose of acquiring land. This is international interest and it needs to be solved President Trump

1:00:27 put out there what he intends to do, which is to purchase it. I wasn't privy to that phone call but i imagine the phone call went the way a lot of these phone calls go and that is He just speaks bluntly and frankly with people And ultimately diplomacy in many cases works better when you're straight forward as opposed to using platitudes and language that translates into nothing Yes this is what we've always said America should be run by business guys So let's look forward four years Does the US own Greenland? We'll see. I mean, obviously that's the president's priority and he has made that point. What i can tell you about four years without getting into specifics because... No? Because they don't know! I don't have a crystal ball Megan Exactly how we will proceed tactically what I think you can rest assured of is that four years from now our interest in the Arctic will be more secure Our interest in the Panama Canal will be more secure our partnerships in the Western Hemisphere will be stronger Yeah blah blah blah so Denmark

1:01:23 came back. Denmark is going public with their strategy, you're not gonna believe this Deutsche Welle had the scoop. Should Denmark prepare for a possible military attack by the United States? When the president of the European Council considered it necessary to say that the territorial integrity of Denmark is a crucial issue for the European Union and that was in reaction to what US President Donald Trump has repeatedly said, namely that the U.S wants control of the Arctic island of Greenland Trump has refused to exclude the use of force to seize it. If you don't know, Greenland is an autonomous territory that is in the Kingdom of Denmark

1:02:06 Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen received backing from European allies over the issue on visits to Berlin and Paris this week. She's repeatedly said the island is not for sale The latest survey of Greenlanders shows that 85% do not want to belong to the United States So then they bring on a lady from the Atlantic Council who's there in Denmark by the way, that Frederickson lady she's a beast She's like eight feet tall. Have you seen her wearing cowboy boots? Which she should take off right away, we can't wear cowboy boots You're not no you're not American yet So they bring in the yet yes They bring in the lady from The Atlantic Council you won't believe this strategy it's fantastic I'm joined now by Elizabeth Brawl she is a senior fellow at The Atlantic Councils Scowcroft Center for Strategy and Security and

1:03:00 You write that Denmark doesn't have to be a pushover for Donald Trump when it comes to Greenland. So tell us, how can the Danes hit the US not below the waist but actually directly in the waistline? As your viewers may know Ozempic is the drug of the moment in United States hugely popular weight loss drug and Ozempic is made by Novonordisk a Danish company that also happens to be Europe's most valuable or second most valuable company depending on what day of the year you're looking. And it is a Danish product and it's one of several products made by Danish companies that are very popular in the United States, Lego is also very popular, and masks this shipping company supplies

1:03:52 Close Legoland! All manner of goods and also transports U.S exports to other countries these are Danish companies that are indispensable to the United States daily functioning if they were not to be available that would be a problem okay before I play the final clip brother okay you got, you know i'm gonna give you a borderline clip of the day for that stupidity Now here's this is so perfect for America. We love this stuff It just like you said well alright, we're gonna close Legoland We're opening up erector set land. We don't need plastic Norway we have we have Lincoln logs With it we don't need your stupid how about Duplo Duplo was the fake legos?

1:04:44 Duplo probably yeah, right those things we had the China of the Chinese will move in and take this over in a minute And what problem and what has Lego really done for us? It's only hurt me stepping on them in the middle of the step on the damn thing kids go nuts No good. They want these kits that kids cost a fortune there outrageous space station moon Yeah, what is it 40 bucks? What it's just a bunch of Legos in a box all right Why don't you keep your Ozem pick wait? There's plenty other this death bomb We got we'll go V. We've got all kinds of other products and by the way GLP one is not patented I think it's public domain by now isn't a GLP one that you know, it's like well Well, there's we have special but listen to this as the final thing we have special stuff You know, we've got some extra bits that you don't having America. I just want to be clear on this is epic Is not produced in the United States So if Denmark wanted to stop production in Denmark and say no more for the US It could

1:05:39 basically turn the supply of those in the US to zero. Some components of Ozempic are manufactured in the United States but not the active component and without the active components you don't have the medication that you need to produce so that gives Denmark considerable leverage Now, Novonordic has been planning to expand Ozempic manufacturing in the United States but it's not able to manufacture the entire drug from scratch in the United States even if they wanted to. That would be, that means if Novonordisk were to be told by the Danish government not to ship its products United States anymore then Osempic would not be available to American users consumers and patients anymore. Yeah and then how about

1:06:32 That is basically your GDP, those two companies. Let's just shoot our own company in the head not in the foot but in the head by cutting off the main market for Ozempic which is a bunch of fat Americans that are too lazy to exercise and rather just take a shot at gut? We are we are the best! Go ahead... Oh yeah let's cut that off that'll show us. We got by when we were fat we did okay We did okay. Oh man, we'll just you know RFK Jr., we don't need you he's gonna make us healthy again oh man I gotta play this for it my hate listen pivot

1:07:15 Pivot pivot it was just because this was so like it. This is like your new drug Oh, no It's not new I've been on I've been I've been mainlining this drug though. I've been main lining it for you for years No, I love it very unhealthy. So they're talking about Bobby the op RFK jr And of course, you know it's an outrage. He's gonna bring that polio! You know we're all gonna die so we just start with... We'll start with this and they had Reid Hoffman on the whole show So this was like my hate listen plus some chocolate sprinkles Reid Hoffman from LinkedIn right?

1:07:56 Yep. Yeah, LinkedIn. Okay here we go fat guy from LinkedIn who's just a big Democrat? Exactly a fat Democrat a fattocrat here We go He is being paid to find people to sue Gardasil an HPV vaccine that so far has shown to reduce cervical cancer and women by 90% I don't think it's 90%, but okay I'm I don't know if either of you know anyway would stop that is a meme I've heard it before exactly the same way, put in the same sentence and Gardasil's really got their words sick. We noticed that we talked about this when it first came out is a it's not a good product. No, we don't think it's a good product and certainly doesn't stop more than three strains of

1:08:41 Yeah, yes. But the funniest bit is still to come. To reduce cervical cancer in women by 90 percent! I don't know if either of you have known anyone with cervical cancer? I have my god we had... I guess you didn't advise your friends that take HPV something We have something that can prevent nine out of ten times this vicious awful disease and we have the head of HHS being paid to try and discourage and financially damage that miracle? This guy has no business. at HHS. Wait for it, it's a miracle! It is probably the most dangerous of the nominees in terms of what it could mean long term without attribution where in 10 years we wake up and go oh cervical cancers back and reverse engineer to this individual who is blatantly repeatedly anti-vaccine I think this is awful. I made my sons get it immediately

1:09:47 I almost fell over when i heard that. Cervical cancer, women with cervical cancer! I made my sons get it immediately Okay? Oh my god Now we're gonna bring in Reid Hoffman This is the new meme about Bobby So look um...I think you gotta- so look So look, I think the unfortunate prediction for RFK's probable confirmation is it will probably be measured in thousands of American lives lost.

1:10:24 Right. I think that the question around... I love the right, right? It's Silicon Valley talk and when you say something that is just unbelievable, right? Probable confirmation is it will probably be measured in thousands of American lives lost Right. I think that the question around the fact that he's saying, I'm just following science... No he's not right? It's just it's not only is anti-vaccine in many statements over decades Like, he's essentially anti-science. I've heard of meetings where he is meeting with scientists where the scientist tried to tell him no you're supposed to listen to me it's like... No! The whole point is to listen to good scientists and if this confirmation goes through I think the senators who vote on

1:11:17 should track, you know how many thousands of American lives they're willing to spend You know in this calculus because if he any of the things that he has thought of is articulated and talked about. I think The cost is going to be measured in lives your cost is going to be measured in lives Lives killed or created? Okay, so that was Reid Hoffman now comes the kicker the absolute kicker not everyone kicker He has a 14-second kicker. Not everybody will understand this one But you certainly will have you been surprised by how many? Tech people Have been attracted to him. I'm gonna leave out Nicole Shanahan. She was not a tech person She's just a rich person who married a tech person who may and got money that way hello pot kettle

1:12:14 Yeah, because she was married to... what's her name from Google? Yeah. That's how Kara Swisher got rich. Megan. Yes. Yeah, Megan. Because Kara is basically a... She wrote that her claim to fame when I knew her Was being on the Silicon Spin No well she was on Silicon Spin but her claim to fame when she wrote a book about AOL Yes, exactly. That's it. And her book about AOL was just like a classic you know... I don't know if you want to... There are terms for these kinds of books and it is just a throwaway and she... Crap? Is that the term crap? No no there actually is a technical term for the kind of books she wrote

1:12:53 It doesn't again. Yeah, it's not a good day Not enough sleep that's what it is She fiction is that what was called science fiction? Oh, it's like cut and paste It's a term I've long lost, but it is book where you throw stuff together based on most work that other people did. Ghost written? No, it was just research books. You do a bunch of stuff that out there and package it. Coloring books? Yes, the coloring books. Let me get back to the point. So she was brought onto Silicon Spin because of this book

1:13:32 And it was obvious to me that she'd know nothing about, she was not a techie by any means. I mean the people we had on that show were technical people and lot of them were engineers and we had lots of CEOs and you know that type of guy but CEO's start up CEO's are guys who knew what they're doing as she was never there where she was just a good talker, she is good talker and she was married to Megan. Yeah! And i think she made a lot of money out of divorce Yeah, I'm sure she did. Right so she's saying Nicole Shanahan, but she not a techie She just married a tech guy and got a lot of money out of it It's like come on projecting

1:14:12 A pop-up book is being suggested. It's a pop up book? Well, she also got... She also worked with the... She had to show Caridou with this eventually she went on to work with Walt Mossberg Yes yes at The Wall Street Journal and had the D3 conference. A real actual unlike myself actual curmudgeon who thought his shit didn't stink and he was just a blowhard of high regard. I am thankful though to Walt and Kara as it was at the D3 conference that Steve Jobs invited me to come have a meeting with him, so in a way you know this Kara is where she should just claim that if it wasn't for me Curry never would have spoken to Jobs and never would've gotten into podcasting whenever would have happened She could! She'd do it He's not a techie he's just a VJ

1:15:11 Yeah, she could go there. They're still shopping their show I know better yeah you do you're more of a techie than a VJ don't tell anybody and But you do you how you like your voice? Yes different. I certainly like my own voice yes Let's do tariffs, John. Because everyone is going crazy it came out Friday. Tariffs! We're going for tariffs! Big beautiful... the most beautiful word in the dictionary is tariffs and I see you have some clips. I have three clip on tariffs. I could've had a couple more that was gonna get last night but I was getting late so screw it. The BBC has some For decades, trade wars looked to be a thing of the past.

1:16:01 The future instead seemed to belong to globalization, to China and the big regional trading blocks. No more! From today Saturday the United States says it's imposing tariffs on its three biggest trading partners speaking at the White House on Friday President Trump said he would deliver his campaign pledge to impose tough tariffs on imports from China Canada and Mexico We have about a 200 billion dollar deficit with with Canada getting close to $200 billion. They've treated us very unfairly, and I say why should we be subsidizing Canada? It's wonderful! I have so many friends in Canada it is a great place. We'll see what happens with Mexico it's the same thing. Wonderful friends. 250 billion dollar deficit As we record this podcast its still not clear if there will be any exemptions

1:16:53 But the threat of high tariffs brought this response from the former Bank of England Governor Mark Carney, who's currently on the campaign trail to take over as leader of the Liberal Party and is Canadian Prime Minister from Justin Trudeau. I think President Trump probably thinks that we in Canada will cave in but We are going to stand up to a bully. We're not gonna back down, we're united and we will retaliate." Ultimately the steps that the president is taking against Canada contemplating I guess as well against Mexico China others and threatening the world are going to rebound negatively on the United States they're gonna hit growth they're gonna move up inflation they're gonna raise interest rates they're gonna damage the US's reputation around the world

1:17:40 It might be good before you get into your analysis clips to explain what a trade deficit is and how it works, because no one in the M5M does that. No one explains when Trump says they're ripping us off $200 billion dollars—no one has this…there's just no explanation and I'd love to hear it myself. Well, you know what it is? It's like I have…I'm making a product of say coffee mugs And I make, and I like to export my coffee mugs. And so I export $50 million worth of coffee mugs to China

1:18:17 And so China makes coffee mugs. This is the funny thing about world trade, you know? Caterpillar sends cats over to... caterpillar devices over to China they send their device over to us and I send a forklift to China, China sends a forklift that they make over here. Better example we buy beef that comes from China and we send our Texas beef over there to be sold like caviar We buy pork probably. That's their business to how they sell the product, but the point is that I'm going to go back to the simple mugs so I make $50 million worth of mugs and send 50 million dollars worth of mugs in China they make a hundred million dollars with the mugs and they send our country 100 million dollars we're in the whole fifty million dollars said so that's the trade deficit is that we're sending

1:19:08 X amount over there, they're sending x times two over here. So our outflow is going to them instead of coming this way so the money we're just basically throwing money away and this is done, this is created usually by the cost of labor or the efficiencies of the business with effect that the Chinese are subsidizing government's subsidizing their companies where they all own the companies. There's a lot of different reasons for it but you end up with Canada sending more product to us than we send to them, they just won't... They're either not buying our product or they're blocking our products. Or they're marketing against our products whatever the case is it's not balanced and what Trump always wants and everybody wants is balanced trade which you send 500 million over to us, we send you 500 million of something else. And that's the idea world trade is that supposed to be all about. You get so lopsided

1:20:04 that you're in the hold of these countries and that's the balance of trade. That's what it referring to. And was this is original idea with a World Trade Organization, that would all be balanced? The World Trade Organization was set up to make sure that this system worked right so he didn't have these kinds...that's where the Chinese are going at with this 10% that Trump said he's gonna...10%, China everything which included lot of stuff But it won't really mean much because China's stuff is so cheap anyways. But they're going to immediately, and they've done this before, they go to the WTO which was... They were given membership that was... Did they go crying? Yeah and last time they went to the WTO, the WTO ruled in their favor

1:20:51 And we had to pull back some tariffs of some sort. And they're gonna do it again, they already said that and that was discussed in the BBC reports that I heard that the Chinese are just gonna bitch to the WTO and you know tells the pound salt. They haven't done anything... The real tariff that nobody wants to talk about is 100% tariffs that Trump has... And I think this been going on since first Trump Trump won on electric vehicles. But that's why we see no Chinese electric cars on the road, we don't see BYD which is probably the fastest growing car company in the world and I think they'll surpass Toyota in the next... No! They can do sponsorships on NPR

1:21:41 Instead of the Toyota Tercel. They can do the BYD. By the way, when's the last time Toyota made a Tercel? Yeah well that's how old those people are at NPR and that's how they think I think in those terms. They so WNPR! Brought to you by Toyota Tercel. I mean, I can't explain it any better than that. Okay good! No that's good. I appreciate it. It just means you're not selling enough... You're no exporting enough and importing too much. You must understand some of our younger listeners have never had this education they don't know This is not taught in school They should be teaching civics in school before anything. Well true

1:22:20 All right, let's get into your analysis. Okay so we're gonna start with I guess this is from PBS now that i think about it but uh we'll find out by hearing the voices here go to tariff intro America's biggest trading partners are bracing for sweeping tariffs that President Trump is imposing 25 percent on imports from Canada and Mexico except 10 percent on energy products from Canada Tariff threats have been a bargaining chip in Mr. Trump's effort to get America's neighbors to curb the flow of migrants and drugs into the United States Together Canada, Mexico and China account for nearly half of all US imports And tariffs could mean higher prices for American consumers Ali Rogin explores the trickle-down effects of these tariffs with Martina Stavis Gridna She is the Canadian Bureau Chief for The New York Times Before we get into that You know We have the USMCA

1:23:13 And the USMCA allows in this year, I believe for the president of the United States uniquely to renegotiate the deal if we don't like how it's going. That was a big deal that put that in and another one of our fine deals where we all like what you're doing well and don't do business with us so we put that in there. I believe that they were fair The workaround here is by saying I'm doing for immigration and drug trafficking. I think that's a workaround because how is he actually going to measure this? And say, oh well we got less fentanyl! How do we know this? Well this is the interesting thing about it because what you just said there

1:24:01 It's kind of what I'm thinking, I have a skeptical thought in my mind when he introduces the New York Times Bureau Chief. I think New York Times, oh this will be interesting from Canada and then I started recording it for this reason. Oh this is gonna be a gem! It turns out that I was completely wrong she is really good at analyzing this and Except the one thing that keeps cropping up with everybody which talks about this is they all the Mexicans Mexican we're gonna be suffering because of the avocados And you know bring in avocado stuff like we're gonna die remember Super Bowl Sunday is next week We're all gonna die if we don't have our avocados. We need our guac without guac There's no game guac and avocado toast don't forget that oh, whoa all the young kids

1:24:50 So, you know you can... Well just not to change the subject completely but I will say and talked about this on the show before. If you can get Peruvian- Yeah they're better! They're better? And of course we do grow avocados in California which are quite good The Mexican avocados are actually, I think second rate but that's just my opinion. But you know they're from California the Camivado we don't want communist avocados we want a good Mexican avocado but you're right that's the only thing it's tequila Tomatoes. That's the other one, you're right! Tequila... You're not gonna get any more tequila? I mean is anyone sitting at home like oh no oh no what am i going to do we'll drink limes will drink bourbon whatever it's fine all right we'll go to tariff two. Matina thank you so much for joining us Mexican and Canadian officials have said they plan to impose retaliatory tariffs what is the effect on Americans in all this?

1:25:50 I think the immediate effect, or experts say the immediate effect is going to be inflation. It's going to be higher prices and disruption of several industries that are so closely linked to Canada and Mexico. Things such as avocados or even vehicles could become much more expensive for Americans really quickly. You mentioned some of the consumer items but what do we know about what sectors of the US economy are going to be most affected? by these tariffs going into effect. The Canadian government is certainly going to be imposing retaliatory tariffs in key industries in the US that they think will hurt the most because they're trying to change the course of this policy, they want to exert maximum pain and that could include anything from Kentucky bourbon, they've told me, to orange juice coming from California

1:26:38 to dishwashers made in Wisconsin. So they have a long list of goods that they believe that they can impose tariffs on, made in the United States and they will want to disrupt those industries in the US as quickly as possible. And of course the economies and people of Canada and Mexico are going to be impacted as well What are the consequences for people in those two countries? Absolutely! The U.S will hurt but Mexico and Canada will hurt more and faster. We expect, for example in Canada the country will probably tip into a recession of 2.6% experts tell us here we expect hundreds of thousands of jobs to be affected half a million jobs just here in Ontario where I live And also the availability of certain goods will be disrupted as these tariffs come into play The pain will be longer for those two smaller economies than it will be for the United States You know

1:27:34 For years, since the beginning of this program in its 18th year now we have always given Canada a break. Like if you support us with 200 Canadian dollars which now is like what is it? 67 cents of dollar I think. No, it's like $150 but we still give you the associate executive producer credit I mean, is it time to reevaluate that? Should we be more patriotic? Should we be consolidated with...compadre with Trump. We should go with Trump and cut this Canadian...no!

1:28:16 I will say, no we're not going to do that because we're not a political show at all. We very rarely talk about politics. But will there be a rift between Americans and Canadians? Will the Canadian dollar fall even further is the question I'd be asking as far as donations are concerned We'll still support you Canada. We love you guys your producer your in Gitmo nation, you're not in a country You know I we talked about this later in the show but we had the Albany meetup Yeah, which was very entertaining in this I saw a picture. I saw a picture you looked very entertained

1:28:57 Well, I don't know if i'd look entertained ever. No you don't! You look like uh they're taking a picture of me oh yeah i don't like those pictures anyway so it came up in the conversation though that we've lost all of our australian donors and supporters we have nobody this but we haven't everything we had one last show one from New South Wales. Yeah, yeah and we're starting to lose our English supporters well they're not allowed they're afraid I don't even want to hear the show anymore! We may be blocked it's possible do you think that people just hate us because we're Americans is that where this is going?

1:29:45 No, I think that...I'm not sure where it's going or why it's happening but maybe they're not getting enough attention from us even though we do produce a lot of material. Well the attention they get from us is usually not positive. It's negative! Yeah let's see if we have- We're giving them too much negative attention. We're moaning and groaning about the Brits and their censorship. I'm looking at this list. We have one Dutch producer, one Italian producer, one from Portugal And one from Western Australia, one from Japan. Oh there's a couple of sustaining donors from the UK I see one from Belgium but yeah well maybe that's our own fault i don't know...I can't help it! I can't help with you guys are lost your government is lost at least we do grouse about the EU more than any other podcast and maybe they don't like The Mirror like look what's happening

1:30:43 That's possible. Well, we're sorry if we... We're sorry but we don't feel the way we do this show. No, we can't help that. We try to be entertaining I don't know. Yeah, yeah trying. All right third clip here Yeah. Both Canada and Mexico have played ball. They have complied with Mr Trump's demands for changes at the borders, for example the Mexican government has supported and assisted him in his deportation efforts this week of irregular migrants taking thousands of people into Mexico. Irregular migrants? Really is that the term now? Irregular migrants

1:31:41 What size are you, irregular? Speak of irregular migrants taking thousands of people into Mexico. Canada has bolstered its border with the United States has deployed Blackhawks drones and additional staff and they have said that they are seeing a real drop in your regular crossings from Canada to the United States but the question in both Mexico and Canada is Is that enough to change Mr Trump's mind And it's really not clear that it will be These are some of the most ambitious trade moves that President Trump has made in either of his administrations, this coming so soon in the beginning of his second term in the White House. How are Canadian and Mexican officials receiving it in terms of how to deal with President Trump going forward for the rest of his term? We've seen a really different attitude from Canada and from Mexico. Mexico has mostly been

1:32:36 Quite steely, a little more aggressive in its rhetoric but working behind the scenes. The Canadian government has tried to be a little more conciliatory while also threatening to retaliate with its own tariffs but for example Canada's foreign minister was in Washington DC up until last night trying to change the course of this policy through diplomacy Obviously, that didn't work. I think one of the concerns going forward in both countries and their officials is gonna be what does Mr Trump really want from us? How can we truly change this and as we escalate into practically a North American trade war as these three countries exchange retaliatory tariffs, what is the off ramp how do we stop this? Trade War!

1:33:21 Yeah, great. Well we're in one because now the way this show works John has all his clips done typically Saturday evening I do my clips in the morning and we have retaliation We have retaliation Mexico first it looks like clouded shine by mistake is gonna go pretty equally so the United States is talking about 25% of And they're going to really try and punish U.S. exporters to Mexico in the same kind of level. So, already people have been – predictions that if this happens Mexico will go into recession within a few months of these trade wars going into effect.

1:34:04 and you see, you know, you have about half a trillion dollars worth of trade. Mexico is in fact the biggest trade partner with the United States in the world now bigger than China or Canada and so many goods, including things like avocados which are very popular in game day coming up next Sunday. Prices go up and all of these kind of things. So it'll be really big impacts a lot worse for Mexico but the United States will feel it as well I think most people seeing this thought Donald Trump was bluffing It was a form of putting pressure on Mexico effectively to crack down. But as we talk about in Canada, it's unsure what he is really after? Is he really want to change the whole trade arrangement and feels that people who are importing goods through United States should be paying for that privilege and so kind of basically changing the whole idea of free trade in this region? Free trade yes exactly! So that's Mexico

1:35:04 Justin Trudeau. Before you go to Canada, I want to mention that there is one thing that they don't have the clip of and may have been on the BBC clips. The mention that this president of Mexico, the woman... Yes, Sheinberg. Sheinberg. She is irked by the fact Trump claims these cartels are running the country and that they're all and that the government is corrupt We this is a obviously going on. Yeah, and it's just an insult to her That we got no there's no corruption in Mexico right

1:35:47 So, yeah. Meanwhile we're shooting it back and forth with cartel at the border who are now a terrorist organization I mean you know what? It's interesting that there was almost no one no reports really about the ISIS strike I have one. The one in Somalia? Yeah, we'll get to that in a minute then because there was very little about it. No coverage whatsoever. That's...I noticed this too. Very little coverage. Justin Trudeau took a different tactic that you heard of France 24 report there about Mexico and he spoke directly to the American people

1:36:25 Now, they couldn't mic him properly which was very... Good work. Really unfortunate so I had to do some NPR level filtering but here it is First, I want to speak directly to Americans our closest friends and neighbors Closest friends This is a choice that will harm Canadians But beyond that, it will have real consequences for you. The American people." So he says yes this will hurt Americans or hurt us Canadians but it will have real consequences for you American people? As I consistently said tariffs against Canada put your jobs at risk

1:37:12 potentially shutting down American auto assembly plants and other manufacturing facilities. Is that true? Will it shut down American auto plants? Well, see this is what's gonna end up happening in my opinion... There's more to it but we'll just stop it as we go along I was going to say that it's that we do have parts manufacturing in Canada and Mexico that go into our cars that are built here, and some of the cars are built in Mexico. And some of the cars are built in Canada. So we... That is an issue which I think it's something maybe... It may bring to the fore or to the point where we bring some of these manufacturing back to the... Which is what Trump wants! Because they're manufacturing down the tubes and we got to bring all back

1:38:03 They will raise costs for you, including food in the grocery store and gas at the pump. Hey we're ready for it Justin! We're ready to shoulder the burden It's like a game of chicken watching these... Well I've thought about this. But they are driving a Chevy. I have thoughts about it. They will impede your access to an affordable supply of vital goods crucial for U.S security Vital goods crucial for our security. We're in danger now, what are these vital goods? Such as nickel, potash, uranium, steel and aluminum They will violate That's all you got?! What about Molson beer? Free trade agreement that the president and I along with our Mexican partner negotiated and signed a few years ago As i've said before

1:39:00 If President Trump wants to usher in a new golden age for the United States, the better path is to partner with Canada not to punish us. So as I'm thinking about this Clearly this is... What does he mean by that? Well, because he says well if just a few years ago it's a little more than a few years ago that the USMCA was negotiated and this... Well if you go on it really stems from the Clinton administration to be honest about it. Yes NAFTA Right but this was modernization of NAFTA It wasn't that different And uh You know it's up for renegotiation which is what all of this is about Aboot But

1:39:44 I mean, this could also trigger the financial meltdown if everyone goes into recession. Is this in some ways maybe a setup? We've been waiting for this to happen. We've been waiting for things to trigger and it's not minor, the stuff that is going on here. China, I think it's pretty minor – the 10%. I'm not quite sure what that means or how much it will mean I mean, will this ultimately result in people in America waking up and saying let's get to work Joe. Let's go build some stuff? No well that may be beyond that point. De-dollarization maybe just everything just goes down. I don't know it feels like there is a bigger plan behind this at play. This is clearly not just for immigration and fentanyl. It's just no way we like our fentanyl

1:40:45 You know what I mean? It's like, it doesn't feel... that's clearly not being genuine. It's about trade because he says it all the time and we're getting ripped off- I think its about what I said a little while ago which is getting industries to relocate back into the United States and get the foreign countries to open up here and invest in the country. Okay I mean, it seems like a good idea. Well, I think President Trump needs to come out and say something publicly because now it's just little quotes like there will be some pain no he needs to come out and he needs to say to the American people He needs to get everybody together Now because when he said the pain that was just a clip of what he really said which is there's gonna Be some pain but the country will understand Yeah But he's got do more.

1:41:32 of the box. He's got to do more people you know now it's just what can he do? He needs to be the weave! I have to play the two clips after you're done with this. Go ahead, go ahead that was it. Okay these are again well these are you know...I call these clips TikTok clips they're not always TikTok clips but there's this this this are the clips about that the 10-day clips here's one of them too this is the talk ten day clip Do you get it now? It's been ten days! It's only been ten days. Saw a quote the other day

1:42:10 And it said the people who aren't horrified, horrify me the most. It's been 10 days! What does this even mean? Ten days of Trump... There is some sort of a Sub Rosa theme that has been going on listen to here's the other one listen to this talk mental health ten days Have you checked on your American friends lately because we're not okay The past ten days has felt like a year for so many of us right now We cannot keep up with all of these horrific executive orders coming down hour after hour, day after day in the first 10 days. Add to that the first commercial plane crash in over a dozen years claiming the lives of everyone involved. It is genuinely looking bleak over here for a lot of us we are doing our best

1:43:09 not to have our spirits crushed. And as somebody who works in mental health, I can tell you this feels like COVID all over again. It is my job to help other people day in and day out and I'm struggling and I know I am not the only one in this position Healthcare providers in this country are struggling. I know we have so many allies all over the world and we appreciate it so immensely, and there are so many things that I wish we could take a page from you right now because in this country we're going sideways so fast and many of us do not know what to do to stop it

1:43:53 Thank you for listening. I needed to get that off my chest, please go ahead and follow me on my other platform Yeah, so the next day the next day oh wait this watch Bill Maher on Friday yeah 11 days! Oh, really? There is something going on with this the liberals and that number it's just a 10 days 11 days are doing it some sort of a countdown or they're there but this ten day clips those are only two dozen clips I'm I could eat most of her dumb well but it's always just ten days all the ten days as ten days at ten days so there's something going on.

1:44:36 You know, it's all empathy. which the number one thing I noticed, it's like to see Selena Gomez crying because their own media favorites have sighed up them into believing that Trump stormtroopers are kicking down doors to schools and churches and rousting brown people. Which is not true. It's only 200 more than Biden was deporting every single day. You know it's just a bigger show for sure and the border is secured for sure They have a bit of a skewed view on reality, but on the other side... That's poor... what a pathetic presentation. She had to take it down and she got nothing but grief because everyone recorded it and they're replaying it. Oh did you see the White House even? Did some kind of funny video with her

1:45:27 No. Yeah, yeah of course but then on the other side the jubilance and the enthusiasm and the optimism from I'm speaking about you know from the Fredericksburg circle is great everyone's excited they're not even stomping that much on people they just walk around like this is good there's a new sheriff in town things are changing and boy are they I mean, the amount of cleaning up and of course it's just the beginning. And it's not as many of our producers point out, the middle management issues, the bad systems are still in place but you look at like Kash Patel what he will be able to do and this is all marketing of course so

1:46:18 Elon, who is the PR guy for Doge because he knows that's all he does and Trump is using him perfectly for that. He's posting stuff like Joe just 10 days did even say that but he could have we found that the Pentagon spends $600 million a year on sushi I believe it too! The Air Force pays twelve hundred eighty dollars for paper cups And the IRS spends $230,000 a month on Starbucks cinnamon roast K-cups. You know this is the kind of stuff that people despise and so they love it when this all comes out and it's small... It's very small in all the same way Yeah but it adds up Of course it does! Then you know it was like hey Elon I got another one for you go get The Astronauts okay? Okay I'll go save The Astronauts boss no problem which I think is funny

1:47:16 you know, posting that the Treasury, the Secretary of the Treasury would just never deny a payment. Just pay anything even if it was to corrupt criminal gangs and cartels and God knows what else. I actually have a somewhat longish Psaki clip of her Lamenting the hostile takeover. On another piece of breaking news tonight, here in the nation's capital where the Trump administration has conducted an unprecedented purge at the top levels of the FBI. An unprecedented purge. Administration officials have forced out all six of the FBI's most senior executives and multiple heads of various FBI field offices across the country according to current and former FBI officials who spoke with NBC News

1:48:03 This hostile takeover of federal law enforcement, there's no other way to call it. Included the high profile leader of the Washington DC field office which was involved in the prosecutions of President Donald Trump. The Department of Justice also fired multiple federal prosecutors who conducted the criminal investigation on January 6th rioters according to sources. Now just to take a moment and step back I know there is lot of news you are consuming right now but these These are not political officials. These are career law enforcement officials, most of whom all of them have worked under multiple Democratic and Republican administrations they're not political appointees many do not even work in the FBI's Washington headquarters like Spencer Evans he is a special agent in charge of the Bureau's Las Vegas field office

1:48:51 In a note obtained by NBC News, Evans writes... These firings are potentially devastating to the nation's ability to fight terrorism and corruption, investigate crime across the country. That's what the FBI does but they're also not just about law enforcement officials in Washington that there are no doubt going have an impact on the local communities they serve as well we're gonna be learning more about that I'm certain in the days ahead And it's leaving a lot of these local FBI field offices across the country In a huge lurch

1:49:39 At the same time that Trump is purging the bureau's ranks, multiple sources tell NBC News that the office of the acting deputy attorney general former Trump defense attorney Emil Bovee has asked the FBI for a list of employees involved in January 6th cases. Now that could include case managers technical workers intelligence analysts workers and almost basically every single field office the FBI has As one former bureau official told NBC News, this is a really really big list. Yeah? Really! Yeah really really big What is this thing where she goes off script and it goes on and on about the Spencer Evans guy The only way she names my name... Is she fucking the guy I mean there's something screwy about this Maybe that may be her sources familiar with the matter you don't know

1:50:31 You don't know, it's possible. Names of all FBI personnel involved in January 6th investigations and prosecutions must be submitted to the Attorney General's office. FBI cell phones have been confiscated many can no longer access email six of the seven executive assistant directors and 25 of the 56 special agents in charge are I've already been fired Well, this is kind of what we wanted. You know? Yeah that's exactly where we want it and the funny thing about this it's not mentioned This is without Kash Patel! Yeah, this is just happening This is just happening. Where's Kash Patel he got in there maybe they're getting their clean It looks like they're cleaning house before he arrives yeah Do you think that That they'll all get through with a threat of

1:51:16 with the threat of primering different senators who vote against the threat from Shanahan and others. Do you think that they'll... Well, Shanahan's threat is a pretty major one Yeah do you think that they'll all be confirmed? Tulsi I've said this since the get-go is that I think there's gonna be like Hegseth, you know Hegseth barely got through yeah I think Kennedy's gonna be the same way he's gonna get barely get through Some surprise that the pushback he's getting and I do have the one clip with him and Bernie which is a classic Yeah, and Kash Patel is gonna get in. I think easily but I think Tulsi's the one that they really have a problem with hmm Well, there's a lot of pictures of things in people's mouths That may weigh more heavily than being primaried

1:52:12 Could be. There's a lot of blackmail that is running the country, no doubt about that And do we know who the backup is? Who's the backup for Tulsi? Do you have any idea? No they've done a good job at keeping it from us We don't know the back up for Kennedy either But the back-up for Tulsi will be some kick ass I'm sure It's going to be worse For the intelligence community. I mean there may be some thought that the intelligence community says well You know at least she's one you know she is a soldier maybe we can manipulate her She doesn't have them, but she kind of clueless about it the government works and at that level and maybe week you know She might get in that way here's Rachel Maddow who still no one is watching even though? She was brought back to do the first 100 days

1:53:00 Yes, she's on every night now. And unwatchable! The Washington Post reports tonight that FBI supervisors advised agents that any agents who worked on either of those two cases the Jack Smith cases... FBI supervisors reportedly advised agents that they should be prepared for the Trump administration to release to the public the names of the FBI agents who worked on those cases before they were then- They would then be fired on Monday So rather than just firing them, they were basically going to tell... you know. Trump supporters, including those who were just let out of prison by Donald Trump. Tell them hey here's the names of FBI agents who are part of all the January 6th investigations The ones that targeted Trump Don't worry though they're no longer agents We're firing them today so go ahead and have at em Have at em yeah MAGA Now tonight I know why you said that MAGA Have at em MAGA

1:53:58 You know, I'd like you to pay attention. Do you ever see any of your TikTok people and that your algorithm is fine-tuned? Do you ever see any of them referencing Rachel Maddow or Psaki or any of these? No never right? Never! Which i find peculiar now that you mentioned it because there are the similar talking points only more emotional. No, I don't think anybody watches those shows even including the left. They have a dedicated audience obviously of some sort of number. Not much! It's under a million probably. Probably around the same number of people that listen to us

1:54:45 Oh, so kind of the dumber quotient. We have a smart group and they have the I Have an update it looks like 25% on all products from Canada and Mexico but only 10 percent on energy products Yeah that was mentioned in the report you know we played okay? Okay, yeah, Jimmy's gas might go up Maybe no no the art You know our people here still aren't drilling more debt that I think the 10% of the gas and oil is because Trump really wants to stay in the good graces of those people in Alberta. You gotta keep it between $68 and $78, you can't go too high or too low gotta keep it that range everyone's happy then Then the final clip we've got take a break here is from the former president of Kenya which I thought was just fantastic Let's make sure we play this Somalia clip before

1:55:41 I mean, before we finish. Let's play the Somali clip first then. This is just a clip that we both observed nobody's talking about this and why? President Trump ordered the first military strikes of his second term Mr Trump announced the military action in Somalia on his social media platform He said the strikes targeted a senior ISIS planner attack planner and other terrorists The Pentagon said the strikes were coordinated with Somalia And that there were no civilian casualties Yeah, yeah right. Not one civilian casualty somehow. It was in the cave! They smoked him out of the cave Here's the former president Kenya People here that day crying Oh I don't know Trump has removed money He said he is not giving us any more money

1:56:29 Why are you crying? It's not your government, it is not your country. He has no reason to give you anything! You don't pay taxes in America... he is appealing to his people, shall we hear him one? This is a wake-up call for you to say, okay what are we going to do to help ourselves? Instead of crying. Yes don't cry! To ask yourself what are we going to do? What are we doing now with the money that he has taken from us? What are we going to do? To support ourselves because nobody is going to continue holding out a hand there to give you it's time

1:57:17 for us to use our resources for the right things. We are the ones who are using them for the wrong things." This is, this is the attitude we want! And... That IS the attitude you want that guy's got something going on and then finally a good fun Africa clip Thank You President Trump this is good we've got Africa news gotta love it yeah and yes audience no everyone loved that everyone loved the guy why are you crying? And with that I want to thank you for your courage, say in the morning to you the man who put the sea in the crying. Say hello to my friend on the other end of one and only Mr John C... Yeah, in the morning to you Mr Adam Curry, in the morning ships and seaboots to the ground feeding the air subs into water AND the dames and knights out there Hello there trolls, let's roll a little camouflage It's crazy we have so many trolls 2671 it's good we're consistently about 10% higher than is the norm

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2:00:58 not probably a thousand but well over $1,000. Three hundred dollars or above executive producer and that's the title you'll get and we will read your note so that's the workaround for everybody who has something to promote like I don't know coffee! And um... We also accept other forms of value for value time talent and treasure And the talent and also time often comes in the form of our artists who create artwork for us. So I'm, just to stop you... so iIm at the meetup and I guess it's a known fact by everybody but me that Roger Roundy is Edgar The Puppet? Yeah everyone knows this

2:01:40 How come I don't know it? I was actually stunned because that was... I know why. Because you're not on Mastodon, you're on TikTok looking at pink hair! It's your own fault It's an amazing product. It is a very good product, it was very no agenda. But it also triumphed the comic book dog, insult comic dog only funnier which I'm kind of surprised by did go back and forth with Roundy on this and he thinks that I think he saw it as an opportunity because Triumph the Insult comic dog has been going out in public and doing these videos, but he's woke. Oh really? Wait, wasn't Triumph... what's his face? Conan? No no! He was never Conan, it was this other guy In my blog from about 10 years ago there was a picture of the guy

2:02:40 But it's no, it's not Conan. Conan had him on the show all the time but it wasn't Conans bit. Oh okay and that guy... so the insult comic dog is woke? That's exactly the opposite. The whole point was that dog was offensive Yeah, to poop on From me to poop on? Is that still the dog's punchline? No I didn't notice it last couple of times I saw him in videos he never said to poop on Well then its no good! The dog was only good when his punch line was to poop on?! That was perfect

2:03:16 What a waste. Yeah, so Roundly doesn't do art anymore but that's okay because we have lots of artists and prompt jockeys and donors and special interests and everybody chips in and helps out for as long as AI will work, as entropy is sure to set in soon it may even be starting That's just my hope No no It's your wish! It's your dream! It's a prayer believe me Yeah, you're ahead of your time. Always! Look at me... Invented podcasting who's rich? Joe Rogan I mean it says it right there doesn't it? Mega Kelly We want to thank Blue Acorn who did the artwork for episode 1734 The title of that was Mega That was based on Make Europe Great Again Sir Brian of London sent me a picture

2:04:12 of a whole bunch of red hats as mega is now being used in the UK, as make England great again. Yes I heard this too which is interesting and I wouldn't mind having one of those hats that's pretty fun to have Now when we... Go ahead Well that reminds me, where's my sheet? A couple of things I gotta bring out. Can i finish this? No it is about the show! But this is for art we're gonna finish the art. This is about the donations okay okay We can do the art and then I got to make these complaints Yes of course you make all the complaints you want what else is new It's the show that's what we do

2:04:48 Now, when we saw this from Blue Acorn it was the cow egg. We talked about cow eggs on the show is cute even had a little AI brand mark there on the cow which was fun what was really cool is when we went to get the link for blue acorn to put in the show notes we give our artists credit It said artist for six minutes and we didn't realize that counter is real time so when we went back it says artist for seven minutes So this That's a feature of noagendaartgenerator.com I never knew about it. Yeah, we never knew about it. He is one of the...I think the third guy in the history of this show who hit on his first art donation

2:05:37 Yeah, one shot nailed it nailed it. Yeah, he'll never get in again ever again is all your career is over Let's say now our piece that came in afterwards I used for the newsletter which came in after we already closed our thing which was a late piece from from who'd I thunk it a good was very good piece of art. Who the thing with that? With them, with a Chinese guy on Asian vague Asian guy who is more like a Singaporean actually to me clubbing and beating the crap out of fish with best price best price.

2:06:16 Very humorous. Yes, terrific piece. It might have made it. It might have beat the cow away if it had come in earlier. Yeah very close to beating it I kind of like Nessworks' Can You Read Clock? Didn't quite have it Darren O'Neill did a Runway 33 we both felt that was little too early Yes, it's a good piece though. Now the farmers wife kids came in with two pieces one was a cow with an egg but the one which was titled White House

2:06:58 And what White House media podcasters was this kind of an awesome picture of a Mexican with his sombrero and microphone. It said, White House Media. And what are you teaching them over there, Farmer's Watch? I don't know what this... We both were completely baffled by this. Whatever the kids drew here Why are they thinking it's a guy in that White House with a sombrero of all things which is like verboten It was actually well put together I mean though we were almost gonna pick it. It was close. I will say it was kids Well done close keep it up We encourage this we encourage the art you're doing they there's clearly some soul in these kids Clearly, it was very enjoyable Honorary mention for gun monkey with

2:07:53 What I think the intent here was it to be the Senate confirmation hearings with all of these senators with their heads as pills like they're owned by big pharma, but it missed some essential. It didn't really even look like...it didn't look like the Senate. We know what you were trying to do but didn't quite make it there then. No, I wasn't going to cut it. Then of course everybody tried to do a onesie I wouldn't mind having a No Agenda, No Problem onesie with Curry Dvorak adult size. I'd wear that to bed! You heard him. Yeah you heard me then there was the requisite Pocahontas which is like nah no i'm not going to use that then...I think that was it

2:08:42 Yeah, I'd say... Well you did like the other cow egg. Mainly the one from Dame Kenny Ben with the cow in the carton. It was cute. Yeah it was cute. It was cute. You liked that? Yeah, I did think it was cute. All very close. It was a close call for everybody but the most baffling yet somehow curiously funny was The Farmer's Wife's Kids with the Mexican guy. With the sombrero guy! at the fight out. It could have been when you were, I mean now that I think about it you did a bit... Did I do a Mexican bit? You did a Mexican bit with the ocho ocho ocho and you had the... Security X security x! Ocho ochocho! But you had it all with the echo like the old Mexican radio AM radio Yeah yeah go back and listen I'm not gonna do that every single time That's only for special occasions so that got through to the kids

2:09:37 Interesting. The stuff kids like that has to be what it was I can't think anything else Well, thank you very much Blue acorn blue a corn Yeah blue acorn for your submission We appreciate that and of course many of these pieces of art can be found in the chapter art on the modern podcast app It's well worth taking a look at lot of people using those apps now and enjoying it So please continue to enjoy We always thank everybody who donates $50 or above and now we'll get to the previously mentioned executive producers. But before we do that... Oh, you got some things to say?

2:10:13 Yes. Okay? There's been a lot of donation, regular donations... January all throughout January, a lot of regular donors that have their recurring donations have been canceled. Canceled?! Yeah because this is the time credit cards sometimes get swapped out. Expire! People should check if they think they're still subscribing to the show through one of the programs $33 dollars a month or five dollars even Check. But a lot of people still have $4 Yeah, there's just some four dollars but those are usually four dollars a week and the 1111 which goes back seven six seven years because that was the eleventh episode wasn't it? I'm not mistaken. I don't know what did 11-11 came up as some lucky number though we got on to

2:10:59 But then you should check on there because this is there's too many it's hurting the show It's hurting the show and the second thing is I noticed that Every time after the football season. I usually I hate to be like a scrounger What what's so funny But but I have not seen a hoodie or a sweatshirt from Ohio State or Montana The winners of the various championships, or that even the division to school because i'm wearing one of those. I wore it to these meetup yes One of the ones for the bison's Harding state I think is the name and

2:11:41 I usually get one and I got stuff from Michigan last year, but Ohio State people. There's a huge school there should be somebody that listens to the show that could send me a championship sweatshirt or a championship hoodie. I don't know why I haven't gotten that. So what you're saying is... When I used to do Leo Show twit and make mention of this, I would get a tonne of stuff. Hmm. I don't know what the deal is. So not that I'm complaining or trying to be a scrounger and getting free clothes. No, see this is why i was laughing because of course you're doing that! I am? Yeah you want free clothes. When's the last time... All right so I also want to mention that in for the Albany meetup I included where

2:12:29 executive producers donations, but the other ones below $200 are gonna be on the next show except for one which I've gotten for this show. Which is a note that I wanted to read because it's so funny. Okay all right so they're not even on the spreadsheet? They're all going to be next? No the executive and associate executive producers are there's only three or four of them okay but the rest of them are gonna be next show and had a great day everyone at the meetup I do have a photo one of the guys Richie Rich. But, I saw the photo! Well that photos misleading because his hair it looks like he's looks like a spook there cuz their hair is gray in that photo. Hold on let me take a look at it. The Richie Rich photo? Yeah yeah I'm looking at it He wanted to call you out he made a big fuss about this and he kept you know grabbing me and telling me I have to tell you this What?! He's a year older than you and he's got better hair

2:13:22 And to be honest about it, that hair picture was very strange because that's a white balance problem. His hair is straw gold! It's gorgeous! This is the guy with his arms folded in the picture? No, this is the guy... This is a picture that came in separately. I sent it to you. Oh! Separately under Richie Rich photo and this was one where Steve Crazy Steve is actually photobombing unwittingly photobombing the shot But this guy's hair... Yes, that's the same guy. It's the same guy in the other picture. Oh yeah! Okay well he's got- He is so gray in these pictures I'm just thinking that's not what his hair color is believe me Wait a minute. So let me just understand. He comes up to you and says, Tell Curry my hair is better than his Is that what it was? Yep

2:14:14 He's a dude named Ben from North Carolina. How he got to the meetup is beyond me." He had to make it, to give you this important message! He was very adamant about it. Yeah well yeah his hair is beautiful You're a beautiful man What can I say? It's true. He's a very beautiful man Any more from the meetup or is that is that? Well, no I met a guy who had a guy and his sister came up She was from Dallas and he was in Burbank. Hey want to meet my sister Is that what he said it know but I'd be glad to meet her she

2:14:54 She was an art at international art dealer. So that was kind of cool nice But he was more interesting because it'd be although she was interesting He was interested to say had worked for Steve Breitbart during when he was alive Andrew by part Andrew, I'm sorry. What do you think Steve Bannon? Oh, yeah probably. Yeah Andrew Breitbart when he was alive and he and his sister Ariana she they both think he was murdered I think so too. Well i think that's our consensus as well And then he went to work for Project Veritas. Oh, interesting! So he knows a bunch of that stuff and now is writing screenplays which... So he's the spy and she's the money launderer? Nice group! That's funny you say that because his screenplays are both about spooks

2:15:48 Yeah, well this is what happens. This is why you need to go to a No Agenda meetup. But I did give them two of them the lineup and she kind of warmed up to this too the lineup of watching certain shows that are spook shows that we've you know... Oh and then The British Angle? Well, no not the British angle. I'm talking about this the classics Rubicon Oh yeah has to be viewed Berlin station It's another one the ones that actually give you a little tidbits Yeah, what's going on little bit of the real stuff for the good stuff? All right. They know it was great and everybody was uh It was all nights Everybody had the place it was nice the regulars a lot of regulars. I was expecting to see I didn't see It was a very strange meetup were there any kids

2:16:35 No, no. It's at a bar Oh okay I thought the next meetup will be at... Well as I said Chicago also had to meet up A lot of people, a lot of nights This was a good meetup weekend So we will thank Hayes who comes in with a cool 1000 to save the day and he asked for dedouching You've been de-douched Eddie says thank you for your courage. I appreciate all that you both put into the show Hayes and he is at JVG coffee mechanics calm not sure exactly what that is He doesn't ask for a nighting or anything so If you want to be knighted let us know we'll gladly take care of that and thank you very much It's highly appreciated JVG coffee mechanics Marvin McDonald comes up from Clarksville, Arkansas 333 dot 33

2:17:27 He says, thanks for all you do. I'd like a de-douching You've been de-douched And he wants some goat karma Alright we got it for ya You've got karma Then we have Sir Lawrence of Dystopia from Oakland California 333 dot 33 and i can hear you have his note Yes i do So he dropped off at uh three thirty three three three Local, oh man. I have to get my other reading glasses to read this note while listening to Mark Stevens Junior at My Family Thinks I'm Crazy podcast. This is the My Family Thinks I'm Crazy podcast. I don't know if you've heard of it when he was a guest on no less than two different podcasts

2:18:25 Republican death squad. Okay, I'm gonna have to read this note later and get my other glasses because the contrast is just too low He typed it well do this next one and then you go Then you go and get your glasses now, I'll do James DuPont from Ewing New Jersey 333 says forgive me for being a major douchebag he says I've sent Adam 1984 via Get Albie This should take me, with my older donations tonight of SoulFunMeme. And he has soulfunmeme.com What is soulfunmeme.com? Let me take a look at this Is that some kind of Solana thing? Let's see...soulfun.com or meme? SoulFUNmeme

2:19:14 So, what is this? Solfundmeme.com Here we go. I have no idea. Oh! Crafted for launching private personal AI startup software as a service and business AI agents. Alright there you go and so the back office has approved this so you will be knighted James DuPont thank you very much Okay now i'm going to read the note Well, listen to Mark Stevens Jr. of my Family Thinks I'm Crazy podcast when he was a guest on no less than two different podcasts Nephilim Death Squad episode 105 and Biocharisma podcast. By the way... These are winners! ...I noticed that these people that were at the last meetup they're all bunch of podcast

2:20:06 addicts, you know they're addicted. In fact they were grilling me about do you ever listen to anybody else's podcast? And he goes on and says he stated how he feels hope that if his aunt is listening to no agenda this guy this Mark Stevens then there is hope for sanity and awareness amen Okay, no agenda gives me a feeling that I haven't felt since I used to stay up and watch the Daily Show with Craig Kilbourne Wow That's like before I was born. For reference it is that same feeling you get when you just blew up the Death Star

2:20:45 There's a, there's a... Wow. That's an interesting comment. Nice. In honor of my wife's excellent mac and cheese may I get a Mac & Cheese Screw Your Freedoms and donate? This is the three things he wants to now continue reading you dig those up. Mac & Cheese Screw Your Freedom and Donate. In close please find a token of gratitude for all that you do thanks for your courage and ask me about my latest gun purchase Adios, mofos. Sir Lawrence of Dystopia and he's in Oakland. He was also killer Oscar six Echo Juliet echo so he's a ham too. Nice mac and cheese freedom and donate

2:21:30 Yeah. That was the three? Okay, well excellent. Living in the mac and cheese life! Mac & Cheese by Ayn Rand By the way today is Ayn Rand's 120th birthday. Freedom! Oops wrong one You've got... Donate! Donate! Karma Screw your freedom There we go I got it in Alright yeah Ayn Rand would have been a hundred and twenty Nelson Ariza is in Lawrenceville, Georgia. 333 says I appreciate you guys Well thank you we appreciate you please give me Trump's Trump jobs karma and I love my truck jobs jobs jobs Nice

2:22:28 Nathan Hallgren in Rockford, Illinois $300 no note nothing so he gets a double up karma. You've got Karma and the same first sir Robert Montoya Pleasant Hill California three hundred dollars no notes that also gives him a double of karma you've got Karma And now we have Little John's Candies. Ah, yes! This is an interesting situation... Little John's Candy this is Christopher and he brought with him either his wife or his girlfriend or a sister I can't remember Maybe it was his mom? No definitely not his mom Okay And I can't remember her name but he wrote down in the checkbook that he scribbled it. It was Mackie Oh my god I want some of these

2:23:26 So this is donations from Bay Area Little John's Candies in Somerset, California. And I talked to her for a minute and they're living up in Fiddle Town, I believe which is in the Volcano area of California and I didn't get to talk to her enough. ITM gentleman, he writes as a San Francisco refugee and business owner thank you for keeping me sane. I was hit in the mouth by my smoking hot wife really smoking hot but it must be who it was. That must have been her now we know who it was Yeah, during our refugee journey to the realm... yeah that's got it. She was married- okay there is his wife. The realm of the Sierra foothills we listened while driving back and forth from San Francisco to Fiddletown as he moved our hundred year old candy business Little John's away from the poop and needles. They're a hundred years old they look great! Yes 1924 Look great for their age

2:24:22 Well, the candies on 24 hundred 1924 now we listen while making candy the old-fashioned way little John's Candies handcrafts world famous English toffee is quite good by the way because he brought his sample pack I'm looking at the website little John's candies calm. I would love To try some chocolate covered molasses chips That looks good You can ask Adam for his address, you can send him some. Yes. English Toffee and Fine Candies using the recipes from the 20s 30s and 40s these are old recipes Old school So for a sweet treat for your smoking hot wife go to littlejohnscandies.com and use code ITM10 for 10% off your purchase there ya go another...another uh advertisement posing as a note The mushroom Thank you all of the producers with best podcast in universe

2:25:15 Then he's got, this is hand type too. Traded in my San Francisco needles and poop for pine needles and deer poop. Christopher. Okay. Marshmallow delights. Wow! Whatever happened to the no agenda fudge people? I'm out! No well he said... I'm out! That was a promotion until Christmas. Oh yeah the fudge is done you're gonna have to wait a year. Well I'm out of fudge And I love my drug. Alex Rickman, or Reichman? I think Rickman maybe... Parts Unknown

2:25:51 $210.60, thanks drunk donation! Cheers to another four years of the show... No it's the final four years Can I get a trains good planes bad jingle in light of recent events? These planes be dropping from the sky All aboard trains good planes bad Here we go Eli the coffee guy in Bensonville Illinois 202 dollars and two cents I had a great time at the Chicago meetup. Oh, I finally saw a picture of Eli Nothing like you'd expect him to look like what does he look like? No, I'm not gonna tell you maybe he wants to be incognito What do you think it looks like? He looks like middle-aged dark haired probably about 5'11 to 6'1 medium build

2:26:54 Mustachioed maybe. I don't know? He's like a big, uh... A big guy Latin guy Oh, he's a big Latin guy. Yeah is it big Latin guy the way I saw yeah could be an estimate white balance issue there maybe There are lots of very fine people on both sides of the bar The turnout was good and even had a knight in Dame from Fort Wayne come out some saw old friends and made some new ones Thank you Adam and John for helping create this community we didn't raffle the coffee no tickets

2:27:29 However, everyone left a winner with some samples. Ray brought us two sample packs. Smart! Yeah this is good for about two cups. For producers feeling left out of the fun just visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and use the code ITM20 for 20% off your orders like a meetup in a cup He's writing ad copy now. Stay caffeinated, Eli the Coffee Guy. Meet up in a cup! Simply for Jobs, Karma and says for a winning resume and faster job search go to imagemakersinc.com that's Image Makers Inc with a K and work with Linda Liu Duchess of Jobs and writer of resumes your go-to for all your executive resume and job search needs! Jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs!

2:28:27 And last on our list here is Charles Neal. Charles Neal in Austin, right around the corner 200 bucks. Hey guys, since I forgot to do this with my first donation please de-douche me. You've been de-douched! And that's it for our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1735 get them in now kids while the...while it's still good while the going is good four more less than four more years that's how much longer we're gonna be here even 21 sounds like a good number to me

2:29:03 Who knows what we'll do after that. And thank you, of course to everyone under $50 and above and under $50 will be thanking those people not the under 50s but the 15 above in our second segment. You can always go to noagendadonations.com and set yourself up with a recurring donation if you thought you had one check it again just in case things might have expired new credit cards being sent out noagendadonations.com Thank you again for supporting us for 1735. Our formula is this, we go out and hit people in the mouth. I want to start off a little light here with the prescient clip. This is one of the clips that's been floating around the last couple of days from The Simpsons? The Simpsons who seem to predict everything back, you know 20 years ago this has been on forever Have you seen this one? I don't know. Side show Bob Yeah We're gonna take a listen. I'll be back You can't keep the Democrats out of the White House forever and when they get in I'm back on the streets with all my criminal buddies

2:30:21 Again, predicting reality is amazing what those Simpsons can do. It's amazing. You know you look at this and you're like... What? Yeah that is interesting. Oh! Probably should play this just as a little update uh.. As the winning continues President Trump has had some serious conversations with Russia about Ukraine. US president Donald Trump has said his administration had very serious discussions with Russia about the war in Ukraine. Trump said that he and Russian president Vladimir Putin could soon take significant action towards ending the three-year conflict. Trump didn't say who from his administration is been in contact with Moscow but insisted that two sides were already talking.

2:31:14 repeatedly he wouldn't have allowed the conflict to start if he'd been in office in 2022. Since returning to office, Trump has criticized Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky saying he should have made a deal with Putin to avoid the conflict He also criticized Joe Biden's administration for spending billions of U.S taxpayer money on military and economic aid Ukraine currently relies on the US for around 40% of its military needs and since February 2022 Washington has sent Kiev more than 62 billion euros. There's a lot going on in Germany right now, but I don't know if you've been following that

2:31:57 Shortly before Germany's election, lawmakers debated the possible ban of the far-right AfD party. The path to a legal exclusion, however is long. On Thursday MPs discussed the first step examining whether AFD is anti-constitutional. The AFD is not party, it's just a little bit too right they are enemies of the constitution they are enemies of our democracy they are enemies of mankind. AFD didn't hold back We embody democracy in Germany ladies and gentlemen

2:32:37 We are for referendums, for the separation of powers and the rule of law. The debate to ban the AfD was resumed after Wednesday's motion for a stricter migration policy proposed by the leader of the Conservative Party CDU Friedrich Merz and pushed through the Bundestag with the help of the far-right. In a rare intervention, Angela Merkel accused Merz of breaking her pledge to not work with the AfD. I think it is wrong no longer feel bound by this proposal and thereby knowingly allow the AFD gain majority in vote in German Bundestag

2:33:13 the 29th of January 2025 for the first time. The leader of the conservatives tried to defuse the tensions. There is no cooperation between the CDU, CSU and the far right and the AFD can now triumph as much as they want this will not happen I want us to solve the problems and for this party to get smaller again not bigger but the controversial immigration vote sparked protests in the largest German cities like Berlin, Munich, Dortmund and Leipzig for a second day in a row. influx, there was a bill or law being proposed to reduce the amount of immigrants that can come in. And believe me the Germans are sick of it! They're just like everyone else in Europe they're sick of what's going on so instead of doing that because it's a very key policy of the far-right AFD they all voted against it Germany is committing suicide

2:34:23 It's unbelievable what their ideology is doing to their people and to the country. It's just insane! It has been going on forever This is a slow creep. This is like political correctness in this country, which evolved into the trans Maoist movement which started in the late 70's and early 80's that's the first time I ever heard the term political correctness was from one of the lip jokes actually it was a writer yeah and And it just starts eating away. The Germans at the time, we're just talking about political correctness they were already all in on no plastic packaging when you went to Germany... Paper straws! Everything was like very already set in place and then when they got to the point where they cut shut down their nukes nuclear power

2:35:25 It was like you've gone too far and this woman who runs the AFD, or she's one of the co-chairs anyway. She's Alice Videl She is a sweetheart. I don't see where you know this idea that they're all and this sounds like the Trump thing You know Trump anti-democratic again, I mean you're gonna vote again kind of thing It's outrageous in the Germans are the German politicians out of control They're controlled by the globalists. Yes shot. Oh, well, I mean will the germ the Germans are just too polite? They're too kind You know, like we can't really revolt. I don't know what it is... The same with the Dutch by the way they're not gonna revolt They actually voted in the guy they wanted and like oh what's happening? Oh not much change And then they look across the ocean look at us! Wow if only we could be like that

2:36:18 Yeah, it's a mystery to me. I guess the same goes for the UK. The same you know? The UK is worse! What was that reading about the UK... Let me see it was... They're not donating anymore either. No well Tony Blair is now- there's a big article in the Times. Tony Blair colon bring in digital IDs to get tough on populism How about that? What do you want to get tough on populism for? Tony Blair began the problem. The former Labor Prime Minister who backs identity technology systems and facial recognition believes the public will gladly sacrifice privacy for efficiency. Really? Yeah, you know what he may be right! He may be right

2:37:09 What efficiency are we talking about here that everyone wants to sacrifice for? Specifically, what efficiency the NHS I mean, what's going on in England that's trending toward efficiency that is going to be helped along by digital ID? Just name one thing. He suggests only and only by fully harnessing the power of artificial intelligence can ministers deliver the improvements to public services voters want while also achieving the savings the Treasury needs. Quote you've got to reorder the government around this technology revolution

2:37:46 It costs more money than it's worth. Who is he kidding? Everyone do the numbers on this stuff. Oh, it's coming everywhere Denver has already lost For the vast majority of doctors work doesn't stop once they leave the office Daniel Korch is a physician and he's also the associate chief medical information officer at Denver Health He's bothered by how many doctors are taking their work home with them something called pajama time If you can imagine your doctor after you see them going home, getting in their pajamas, getting out of their laptop and just typing away. That's what so many of our providers have done and we saw a significant reduction in pajama time with providers who are using Nobla.

2:38:31 Nob, nom, Nam blood. Oh not this knob blah not Nambla nabla I know what you're thinking No So we're using Nabla Nabla is the AI software company Denver Health hired to help doctors take notes According to them for every one hour seeing patients doctors typically spend two hours inputting notes and insurance information Here's how it works doctors with their patient and start the program on their phone It listens transcribes the audio and organizes it into a format that doctors are familiar with. Later it deletes the audio recording and transcription so that the only thing that remains is the summary, not their conversation helping to protect patient confidentiality. At the end of encounter it automatically updates a patient record right to clinical documentation take care of the claims after visit summary for the patients Denver Health expected to save their doctor's time with this new technology what they didn't

2:39:24 see coming was how it improved doctor-patient interactions. They had better eye contact, they had better emotional availability because they weren't typing and that's what so exciting about it our patients benefited from it our providers benefit more than 40% of doctors at Denver Health have decided to use Nobla less than two months after its introduction I've never been part of an IT project where people spontaneously gave me hugs they've given me hugs you give me boxes of chocolate because they really find it has improved their life. Helping out doctors makes it much easier for us to have a very good team, very motivated and very loyal so they can have more time to help their patients

2:40:02 Yeah, wow what a crock yeah, it's not even it's not artificial intelligence. It's transcription its speech recognition We've been working on that since dragon and this still doesn't work well computer period Remember exactly over the dragon motion mark I mean if you look at enough tik-tok videos you see how many of they have the automatic titles underneath ah So many mistakes 90% right? Yeah, 10 percent at 10 percent error rate and there you go is non-trivial. There you go That's exactly the problem with all of this so called artificial intelligence I do have a few clips from on the media from NPR with a fellow Artificial Intelligence denier like myself This is the British guy

2:40:50 Oh yeah, this guy's good. Zintos or something he's good he's good These models were always kind of going to peter out because they'd run out of training data but also there's only so much you can do with a probabilistic model They don't have thoughts They are probabilistic They guess the next thing coming and they're pretty good at it But pretty good is actually nowhere near enough. And when you think of what makes a software boom, a software boom is usually based on mass consumer adoption and mass enterprise level adoption. Now the enterprise referring to big companies of like 10,000 50,000 100,000 people but down to like a thousand nevertheless financial services healthcare all of these industries they have very low tolerance for mistakes and if you make a mistake with your AI well I'm not sure if you remember what happened with night capital that was with an algorithm they lost hundreds of millions of dollars and destroyed themselves because one little mistake

2:41:49 We don't even know how these things fully function, how they make their decisions. But we do know they make mistakes because they don't know anything. They do not have knowledge. They are not conscious I get it! No, just not conscious They don't know anything. CHAP-GPT does not know, even if you say give me a list of every American states and it gets it right every time... It's just pattern recognition? Yes! It is effectively saying what the most likely answer to this. It doesn't know what a state is, it doesn't know what America is, it doesn't know anything. It is just remarkably accurate probability

2:42:26 But remarkably accurate is nowhere near as accurate as we would need it to be. And, as a result there's only so much they could have done with it." Yes or as he said... Yeah go ahead. That guy's better than you! The way Silicon Valley has classically worked is you give a bunch of money to some smart people and then money comes out the end In the case of previous hype cycles that work, like cloud computing and smartphones there were very obvious places to go. Jim Cavallo over at Goldman Sachs famously said one of the responses to Generic Veo is say well no one believed in this smartphone wrong! There were thousands presentations led fairly precisely to that

2:43:05 So with the AI hype, it was a big media storm and suddenly Microsoft's entire decision making behind this was they saw chat GPT and went God damn we need that in Bing by every GPU you can find. And I'm telling the truth it is insane that multi trillion dollar market cap companies work like this Nevertheless, all of these companies they went well this is the next big thing. Let's throw a bunch of money at it that's worked before buying more doing more growing everything always works Silicon Valley over the years has leaned towards just growth ideas what will grow what can we sell more of except they've chased out all the real innovators And then of course he has some actual data on the money. I don't know if it's true, but... They chased out all the real innovators is the interesting comment there at the very end It's true! Where'd they go? They went on to create podcasting and make no money

2:43:53 I know it's unfair. Okay, generative AI is incredibly unprofitable $1 earned for every two and a quarter spent something like that? Two bucks 35 from my last estimates OpenAI board last year said they needed even more capital than they had imagined and the The CEO, Sam Altman recently said that they're losing money on their plan to make money which is the chat GPT pro-plan. What is that? So this is where the funny stuff happens OpenAI's premium subscriptions make up about 73% of their revenue. The majority of their revenue does not come from people actually using their models to do stuff, which should tell you everything because if most of their money doesn't come from people using their very useful allegedly models well that means they're either not charging enough or they're not that useful. I think Altman said he wasn't charging enough He isn't charging enough but

2:44:54 Their premium subscriptions have limits to the amount that you can use them. Well, their $200 a month GPT Plus subscription allows you to use their models as much as you'd like and they're still losing money on them! And the funny thing is the biggest selling point is their reasoning models 01 and 03. 03 by the way is there new thing that is just throwing even more compute at the problem it's yet to prove itself to actually be any different other than just slightly better at the benchmarks and also costing $1,000 for 10 minutes. It's insane! But the reason they're losing that is because the way they've built their models is incredibly inefficient and now that DeepSeek has come along it's not really obvious why anyone would pay for ChatGPT Plus at all but the fact that they can't make money on a 200 buck a month subscription

2:45:44 That's the kind of thing that you should get fired from a company for they should boot you out the door. He is my new friend last, last clip. I guess so! Last clip this is rather...I played this out of order but Who is this guy again? Zintas...um hold on uh his name is Zitron Ed Zitron You ever hear of him? No, it doesn't ring a bell. But here he makes an assertion which only you could really evaluate. You said that AI in this country was just throwing a lot of money at the wall seeing if some new idea would actually emerge

2:46:28 Mm-hmm. Are we talking about agents that can actually do things for you? Stop at agents for this is the new twist, this is what Salesforce oh it's a gentic AI It's agent. Yeah, you know what that is. It's a cron job Okay, it's a cron job that does something every couple of run cron job You know what a cron job is don't you I Is it different than a con job? Not far. C-R-O-N, a cron job that's in the Linux system you can set up a cron job to run every minute every five minutes Oh okay yeah It's a cron job based on the clock In a predictable way are we talking about God what is the new idea that they were hoping would emerge from throwing billions at this project

2:47:17 So Silicon Valley has not really had a full depression. We may think the dot-com bubble was bad, but the dot-com bubble was they discovered ecommerce and then ran it in the worst way possible This is so different because if this had not had the hype cycle It had we probably would have ended up with an American deep seek in five years What do you think about the concept that Silicon Valley's never really had a depression? That's true They had one before the dot-com collapse I think was 86 There was a huge downturn that was just outrageous. And it was that, that was propagated by the collapse of the video game company That were making Atari games This is the Atari era and they came out with this product This one game company failed its IPO and the whole economy Yeah! It all crashed Remember that? I do remember that It's a huge crash I think it was as big as the dot-com crash The dot com bubble

2:48:13 was a little different because it came in with Y2K and then we smacked, then the World Trade Centers that are all combined to make a real mess. Got a note from one of our teachers and she said Adam thank you for being pro-human many adults I know... I am very pro human! We hate humans! Kill all humans I am so pro-human, it's crazy. Many adults I know use chat GPT to help them with basic decisions screen induced adult retardation! I'm in education and the board is forcing us to use AI and screens with toddlers all the videos are made with a i slop highly addictive flashing of lights and droning house beats It is making the kids retarded this must end

2:49:03 And I asked her for some samples, which have not yet received but i can't wait to see that. Oh bet she's right! Of course she is right and then back to the UK just staying with the AI for a second from the BBC four new laws will tackle the threat of child sexual abuse images generated by artificial intelligence The Home Office says the UK will be the first country in the world to make it illegal... ...to possess, create or distribute AI tools designed to create child sexual abuse material with a punishment of up to five years in prison. This is Canada? The U.K. Oh, you care what am I thinking? That's that's that's what these tools do how are you gonna stop that?! I don't have no idea what they're thinking

2:49:53 Well, it gets worse if we listen to a clip from the latest interview of Jordan Peterson with Marc Andreessen who has been hitting the Vyvanse if you know what I mean. He makes an assertion that is pretty wild. If the large language model's value is in their wisdom, and that wisdom is derived from their understanding of the deep pattern of correlations between ideas which is a major source of wisdom genuinely speaking why pervert that with an overlay shallow ideology and why is the ideology in the direction that it is? And then how is that gerrymandering conducted?" Yes, let me start with a how. So the HOW is a technique there's an acronym for it uh it's called Reinforcement Learning by Human Feedback so in the field it's called RLHF

2:50:43 And RLHF is basically a key step for making an AI that works and interacts with humans, which is you take a raw model which is sort of feral and doesn't quite know how to orient people. Then you put it in a training loop with some set of human beings who effectively socialize And so, right? Reinforcement learning for human feedback. The key there is human feedback, right? You put it in dialogue with human beings and you have the human beings do something very analogous to teaching a child, right? Here's how you respond here's how your polite here's that you know here's the things you can't I can't say here's how to word things you know here's how to be curious all the behaviors that you presumably want to see from something you're interacting with is sort of human proxy kind of form of behavior

2:51:24 That is a 100% human enterprise. You have to decide what the rules are for the people who are going to be doing that work, they're all people and then you have to hire into those jobs. The people going into those jobs are in many cases the same people this will horrify you they're the same people who were in the trustee safety groups at the social media companies five years ago. Oh good oh that's great! Oh that's wonderful yeah I couldn't imagine a worse outcome than that Because they're so that all the people that, you know, Elon cut out of the trust and safety group at Twitter when he bought it. Many of them have migrated into these trust to safety groups, trust and safety groups at these AI companies. And there are now setting these policies in doing this training. There you go. So that's your chat GPT right there? That's interesting. Yeah I don't know if its true It makes sense. I don't know if its true but Lord help us

2:52:20 Get rid of this scourge all of it. We can't be dead soon enough anytime soon can't be dead soon enough, please All right I'm spent I want to play the Kennedy Saunders little boy sure sure sure sure This is a guy Kennedy was had another day of hearings after our last show which on Thursday he had a hearing set of hearings on Friday with the Justice Judicial Committee Senate and Bernie Sanders was there, and they went back and forth. And we already know that Elizabeth Warren and that other douchebag and those other guys... They're all in it? On the other committee that they were at —the Finance Committee I think is what it was—

2:53:07 We're all bought and paid for by big pharma, but Bernie Sanders? Ah! He never was. So he calls out Bernie Sanders who denies it and then has to admit for some reason because I guess Kennedy had the data that Sanders took 1.5...I'm doing this in advance because it's kind of muddy. 1.2. I thought it was one point...well, Kennedy said 1.5. Oh okay I think 1.2 is Elizabeth Warren, but he says one point five after Bernie denied it He says well Bob and then Bernie got all flustered. He said what was only one point five out of 200 million? 200 million sure is nothing there's no big deal It's no big deal And then he did he realized what he was saying and already embarrassed by the onesies stuff

2:53:57 He realized what he was saying in this and his panics and changes the topic here Almost all the members of this panel are accepting including yourself or accepting millions of dollars from the pharmaceutical industry I thought that that would come no, I ran for president like you I got millions and millions of contributions. They did not come from the executives, 1.5 million out of 200 million. All right but you have not answered last question. I think it was did he really race 200 million? When he ran for president. Yeah, that's a lot of money Well, it was just a little bit man just a little bit yeah It was only 1.5 million to chicken feed and yeah this guy is a communist and he says that He really realized what he'd done and he would freaked out have we forgotten that he has like three houses I thought had five no maybe it's five

2:55:03 Well, socialism been very very good to me. It was interesting I have one clip from Blackburn and talking to Kash Patel putting the fear of God into people Although I thought she could have done a little more here our colleagues know you're going to clean it up I want talk to you about the Epstein case I have worked on this for years trying to get those records of who flew on Epstein's plane and who helped him build this international human trafficking, sex trafficking ring. Now earlier I urged then-chairman Durbin to subpoena those records

2:55:45 And I ended up being blocked by Senator Durbin and Christopher Wray. They stonewalled on this, and I know that breaking up these trafficking rings is important to President Trump. So will you work with me on this issue so we know who worked with Jeffrey Epstein in building these sex-trafficking rings? Absolutely, Senator. Child sex trafficking has no place in the United States of America and I will do everything if confirmed as FBI director to make sure the American public knows the full weight of what happened in the past and how we are going to counterman missing children and exploited children going fewer What I found disappointing is that she didn't bring up Diddy files You know it's like hey well you let us know who went to the freak off

2:56:37 That's what we should have had. It is very quiet right now, very quiet around Diddy I don't think constitutional lawyer Rob said he doesn't expect anything to happen before May and I hope Diddy stays alive until then but it was just a missed opportunity that would have made the news Epstein, bleh Yeah Epstein is old news Very old news And it would've been funny, it would've been great clip if she said will you let us know who went to the freak off? I mean come on Get it together, get it together. You should send a note in the staff. If you're going to do that stuff, you go and call the number up at their office and ask for this chief of staff. He never asked for the congressman. Oh no! That's wrong. No. You'll never get him that's why so he asked for the chief otherwise you got on the underling but if you ask for the Chief of Staff is there they usually will pick up and talk to ya

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2:59:08 It's hard enough to read, but it says, Dear Crackpot and Buzzkill. I'm writing this note to apologize for being a douchebag. I've been enjoying the show for awhile." And this is all in just kind of... That's how you even describe it? Without contributing its time as I step up my game into some mess here and support the best podcast at university. He says de-douche me! We can do that real quick Oh, yes. You've been de-douche'd! And he wants to get you... you're gonna need a Bitcoin which you might or might not do at the end and then he says Hodel Lonsen Prosper Eastside Tony and then it says in the back there's arrow pointing to the back is says on the back It says I use chat GPT to write this

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3:07:04 Well, I don't think have to explain how important these meetups are so many people Mentioned that already and of course John did his report of the meat up there in Alameda We did have a big Albany an Albany Albany all Albany at AWL. Albany, and we had a very big meetup in Chicago this is where Eli the coffee guy hung out and more! Hey Adam & John thanks for everything this is your gracious host Blake Michigan I'm wearing a onesie Brian with a why we are here We're definitely editing in a post and i'm about to pass the phone around. We're sucking in soot In the morning, john and adam this is baron nbs down here at reggie's south loop chicago in the morning This is kate and eli hooked us up with some free coffee

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3:09:52 It finally came to me. Oh, the guy from three hours ago? Yeah! Let me take a look at Ralph Reed... That name means nothing to me. Let's see... Oh very famous guy, Ralph Reed was the head of the Christian Coalition during the early 1990s As a consultant, lobbyist. He was very famous and then he got caught with some scandal. With his pants down? What's that again? It was his pants down or something in his mouth... Or some money deal which is probably more likely. Ralph Reed, yeah very famous. And he was on every show! Huh I never heard of Ralph Reed interesting. Interesting you never heard of him Well what's cool is that people who listen to this whole episode

3:10:36 I got the clue at the end of the show. I know that many... You've been grinding on this for like a day! Many have been just sitting here, waiting to figure it out. Actually Ralph came in me first and then I got the read part later and then oh that's right If you're in Pennsylvania today The Too Many Kegs meet up is underway at McGillin's Old Ale House in Philly On Thursday, our next show day the North Idaho Sanity Brigade meets their first meetup of 2025. Five o'clock at Trails and Brewery and Brick Oven Pizza that's in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho And also on Thursday the Northern Wake Publical Slave gathering six o'clock at Saints & Scholars in Raleigh, North Carolina We have more coming up in the month of February Colorado Springs, Nahomish Washington Eagle, Idaho Fort Wayne Indiana Rockville Maryland

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3:12:16 Where everybody feels the same It's like a party Always, always always like a party You heard it right there. It's like a party even the servers getting on Hey it's like a party wanna be here So I see you only have one ISO Yes Huh Because it's so good that if you have something better, good for you. Maybe I don't know. And i'm going to tell you something here is a tip for people out there looking for ISOs books on tape Books on tape? Yeah because the guys... because there are lots of different kinds of things they say and its always crystal clear Yes okay well should we play yours first? I have three No I want to hear yours first and see if I can... cause ill push this off if you got something great Okay This doesn't seem very useful

3:13:06 Huh? It's negative. What a way to start a Sunday fun day! I'm just saying, and then... Yeah that's pretty good. That's not bad we have- Oh good oh that's great oh that's wonderful Come on man Can you beat it? Can you beat it?! Well let's see uh the Fun Day Sunday one is good but check this one out There is no way anything can be this good Hmmmm... Let's do an ISO off. What a way to start a Sunday fun day! There is no way anything can be this good. Oh man, I don't know. I'd leave it to you. I'm going to leave it to Beaver. Are you gonna actually leave it me? Yeah Both Noooo It's too long With yours first It doesn't fit in the- we only have four seconds Well I'm gonna have to relent

3:14:02 And even though mine's crystal clear, the fun day Sunday thing is funnier. And it is Sunday and it is a fun day... Yes Yeah So I don't know Okay you win Hold on a second Let me just kick this guy because he said both sucked Let me kick him Both sucked He said they both sucked Get him out of here! And now ladies and gentlemen time once again for the famous John's tip of the day I'm going to get to the point where i start repeating myself on some things. Well, then that's the end of tips for today! No it's just gonna be repeating. I could get a million of them. I'm recommending BioSil

3:14:50 Have we done this one? Have we done Bio-Silk? I mentioned Bio-Silk because it's the drops. I use six drops of this stuff in my concoction, but I never discussed it directly People can look it up if they did. I have another, but I get backup but I don't think I need it. This is a collagen generated... this an invention out of Japan the Japanese are into collagen and if anyone doesn't know this the recent discoveries in collagen which is good for the structure of your skin because he holds it together I don't use as much as I should. But you can buy like marine collagen, and you can buy all these collagens now because they've changed the way they're manufactured to the point where they actually used... They can be used and get into the bloodstream and then go drop collagen all over the place

3:15:38 which you need for your structure. You need collagen, is this true? We need collagen? Yes, you need lots of collagen and then you start to lose it and it starts to fall apart and that's when your face starts to sag and you have all these issues but this stuff doesn't... This is not collagen! This is a thing that helps your body get the collagen where it belongs and move it around and make collagen. It's like Collagen Hamburger Helper Yes, I would say that you which is one of your old-time favorites. Yes hamburger helper is used as a As an adjuvant is where you started using it? That's right with the vaccines Years and years ago yes true It's a call back This is uh, it's a it comes in pills and

3:16:26 which are extremely expensive, or these drops which you're like half the price and do the same thing. The problem with the drops is that if you don't follow instructions on how to use them It will wreck anything you'd put the drops into. See, it just... because it's so... It has got a weird bitter flavor that is just like, wah! I don't like that in my mouth. Are you supposed to eat it? No, if you put something with citric acid, like orange juice or lemon juice — well not lemon juice but grapefruit juice or orange juice — You don't even know what's in there So you put the six drops in the orange juice and drink the orange juice as normal, and this stuff's fabulous. So this would be good if you have ozempic face? You take some of these drops... Yeah I think so! I like it. Have you been taking them?

3:17:14 No, no the drops. The college and hamburger helper. Yeah I've been taking them for years Oh! No wonder you look so young and youthful. Oh yeah don't look that young. I probably need to take more of it. tipoftheday.net noagendafund.com Creative lives for you & me Just a tip with JCD And sometimes Adam Created by Danny Brunetti. That's right everybody, that is the end of our broadcast day for today for Sunday Funday the 2nd of February Grammys tonight so I'll be getting my uh... Watch party! Watch party? And looking for the satanic messages. That's exactly right The satanic messages, the Illuminati you know they're all be there and Taylor Swift it's always a party over there at the Grammys

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3:18:45 Atmospheric River is outdone. I'm John C. Dvorak. We return on Thursday, please join us then remember us at noagendadonations.com No agended donations dot com until then adios mofos! And such. And what do you think of Republicans who say that they may take action to block you imposing those taxes? I don't think they will do that. I think if they did, it's foolish. There is nothing more important than borders. I've had tremendous Republican support.

3:19:43 In an open letter to President Trump, Mexico's president wrote in part quote social problems are not resolved with tariffs or coercive measures. The Statue of Liberty is not an empty symbol but all due respect and while you have the sovereign right to express it your slogan America first is a fallacy These Central American migrants are being chased by Mexican immigration agents. In coordination with federal police immigration officials now appear to be adopting a more aggressive approach He said we're gonna put tariffs on Mexico. The senators said, wait a minute. Republicans on the Hill haven't shown a whole lot of willingness to stand up for this president. He's got a 90% approval rating among Republican voters and all the Republican senators know that. And every month those tariffs go from 5%, 10%, 15%, 20 and then 25%. Hence the color orange

3:20:34 And if tariffs is what it takes to get Mexico to do better on their side of the border, I'm all for tariffs. Pedaling in half truths, pedaling in false statements, pedaling in... Look! Theories that, you know create doubt about whether or not things that we know are safe are unsafe. You frighten people in a gobsmacking statement of irresponsibility. Almost all the members of this panel including yourself are accepting millions of dollars from the pharmaceutical industry No, no. I thought that would work. Are you supportive of these onesies? I'm supportive of vaccines You are going to do such a solid job for the people of this country How long does it keep going at some time? You're just batter in the witness battery in the West is what yes You're getting excited and you're going out there just like anybody else will come to

3:21:39 The best podcast in the universe! Adios, mofo. Dvorak dot org slash N-A What a way to start a Sunday fun day