Unkool & The Gang

00:00 Rub me the wrong way you get blocked. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. This is no agenda! Watching my pearls and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas country here in FEMA Region number 6. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where we're concerned that Canada is pushing assisted suicide for babies. I'm John C. Dvorak. Crackpot and buzzkill! In the morning! Well it's about time they got in on that action. Baby killing is all the rage

00:41 Yeah, it seems so. It's like hey we're not gonna let Hamas or Israel have all the fun! Is this really something? Are they really doing assisted suicide for babies? The Quebec board I think is the Quebec medical board is pushing it and they're trying to get it through for babies up to one. And this is... The babies get to decide? Is that how that works? No of course not. This is a form of abortion after the fact Yes, it's a post-natal abortion. PNA. You look at you know I don't like that baby It says like look at the nose on that kid Yeah no good Oh that hair! That has red hair oh no its ginger! Hello social media addicts Remember when social media was social networking?

01:32 Wow yeah, I'm talking about wow is wow that's kind of an interesting. Wow you're right? I got a robocall today Did you know and it was it was the I considered some someone who coded It was very ironic to do it was a woman calling. It was a robot robot Hi, I am Eliza No, really? Yes. Wow that's not obvious I'm Eliza how are you oh man no this Israel Hamas thing is perfect i mean it's better than mask no mask vax no vax because when you say something like all of a sudden your Nazi goes little further now you can get in real trouble now you're anti-Semite

02:27 So, but yes it used to be social networking and I think that the turn to social media is when they brought in the algos. Oh you know i don't think so...I think it was the uh social networking I think was always borderline passive Right, there was no comments. You're right it was just like Google Reader that was social networking I think Facebook would be considered social networking until Twitter came along with micro blogging and i think it's the algo I think it happened when the algo is introduced because media... look networking is just hey look I'm networking with some people

03:13 I'm following some people. But then Facebook got their feed, their newsfeed and that was all algoized and then it became media! Media is always dishonest... It actually doesn't really even matter. I've done some study. We're all ears. So we've talked about Nostril as you call it. And a big discovery... decentralized, it's basically Twitter decentralized. And a lot of Bitcoin bros like it because you can zap each other with little bits of Bitcoin but really its not all that great and I think the bitcoin bro is like, It's censorship resistant!

04:04 So there's really one app that does this, that does Nostra really well and this one app got an investment or... Maybe just a stipend from Jack Dorsey. So, oh this is great! And that's called Damas. That's the name of this app. Get it? Nostradamus? So the Damas guy... I know. The Damas guy posts he says hey you know we looked at our App Store stats and it turns out that after three months 99% of the people who've tried this app give up on it And it was baffling to him.

04:43 It's not yelling at you, it's not giving you stuff to follow. No because there are no algos! There is nothing... That is a good point I don't know if the algo create the action or not but they sure don't hinder it There is no highlighting, there is no trending, there is nothing. You're right people yelling at each other that's where we...it's like watching a fight So now enter no algos Just fight But we have Mastodon. And I've been looking very closely at what's going on in our own Mastodon server, which doesn't happen now. Yeah everyone hates you now! But that's what so interesting is it's like love-hate. Everyone just needs that little hit, that little hey I posted something on NA Social, ah someone commented, oh he doesn't agree with me, that's even better

05:30 You know, it's like I say something simple. Like, I don't like memes and now it's like hate memes don't hate memes there was a poll. Aaron who runs the whole instance said we should have a meme free Monday everyone's mad not bad your addicts your addicts is 100% addiction to this. It's probably even a better high than you get from some drugs because the same mechanism This is what Silicon Valley figured out decade ago And so anything that feeds that, and again this Hamas Israel thing is fantastic. Because you can just go back and forth and call people names... ...and the algo throws it up in your face! I mean the troll room is a little different The troll room is like, I'm gonna go to a party, I'm gonna binge till I puke You know? That's kind of what that is Just throw some bombs at people and get immediate feedback

06:26 I think in general... Yeah, that's different. I agree that is different. It's different. I think it still social media but is of a different sort. It's binging! It's like a binge fest and you know just gonna go and cram as much dope into me as I can until I puke and then good And then here's something else Well this also comes and goes You don't dwell on things Right Oh yeah exactly The dwelling factor I think is the big deal But if you get kicked off by me That's like your general of the troll room Then you have massive props So then I've noticed something else. Now, I don't have this per se but i've seen friends and think women more than anything maybe on text messages so they have a text message thread and they're just sending memes back and forth about the news you know like thumbs up is a good one

07:17 But there's no, it's like meme-ship. There's not even a friendship. They just shoot memes back and forth It's a completely empty relationship. It's like sex without love I don't know what it is People really need to sit down the phones for a day. It's not healthy what's going on Hey! You're talking to the wrong guy I know Of course. I still since December, you haven't touched your phone? I know you're a master. You don't have an account anymore Yeah, I'm gonna try to get back on this before no But this is also why you are now 85 years old it's because yeah that you have not Succumbed do you have kept all of your all your um, it keeps the blood pressure down exactly

08:07 Exactly. You have healthy blood pressure, you haven't worn out all of your brain cells and what's the... dopamine you actually have for sex not just for... I knew I'd get you with that one! So this is good. That's why be like John cook for yourself Don't don't have your phone and just don't use your phone at all. Look at the telephone look at the trains Train there goes a train And I think personally that the genius move and not everybody can do this is love your wife in a different state, I mean This is just Always a winner

08:56 So anyway, so I figured a couple things out with the M5M is already abusing this entire situation. And before we get to it though first we have to have these because CNN is loving this We got ratings again! We got guys with helmets! We got chicks with flak jackets that say media press We have dangerous situations, we got cool sound effects. And what happened on CNN this morning? I mean you couldn't ask for a better ratings buster than this! So you are seeing the sort of solidarity that was called for by the way by Hamas all over the Arab world and the world alike but you are also seeing the journalists gathered here because this is kind of where the clashes happens so alright

09:45 You are genocide supporters! You are not welcome here, genocide supporters! Fuck CNN! Fuck CNN! Yeah! Genocide supporters! Alright, you see that people are very angry. They do not like the way in which CNN has been reporting this story You hear that? Yeah alright I mean that's dynamite for ratings Good job there in the field Her name is... What's her name? Her name is Sarah

10:25 Sarah, what's her name? Sarah Sidners I think. Good job! Give her a raise. Aaron Burnett let's stir it up a little bit come on Aaron go go go What we see Sarah dealing with on the ground in Ramallah obviously you know it is so important right these are pro-Palestinian protests but there is also the perception of where the media stands where American media stands You are not welcome here. There is an anger and a resentment and a rage, and it is real. Real? Bullcrap! And it's important that this part of the story as well. Pro-Palestinian, anti-Israeli, anti-American... Let's stop right there for second We have absolutely no evidence that this whole thing was staged. Thank you very much and I'm going to show to you that it probably was And it is important, and it's a part of the story as well Pro-Palestinian, anti-Israeli, anti-American This is often one big giant soup It's a soup! And its very hard to pull those strings apart As that moment with Sarah just illustrated so well Its a soup I tell ya! One giant soup we don't know what to do

11:27 Unfortunately for CNN, ABC was the first to the punch. Whenever you really want to go over-the-top with any type of attacking force, you've got to bring this in. It's a good old friend of the show... And we're learning that Hamas terrorists who attacked Israel may have been high on a drug designed to make them feel invincible The drug Captagon was reportedly found on the bodies of terrorists and in the vehicles used in the attack Remember our old friend, Captagon? If it wasn't the Russians. It was ISIS... That's right! I forgot all about it. On the Captagon they're drugged out! It is a powerful amphetamine known as The Poor Man's Cocaine Experts say that drug may explain some of the extraordinary ferocity seen in the attack

12:11 former DEA Deputy Chief of Staff Jim Crotty. With Captegon and other illicit substances, they just tend to strip people of all their humanity. They do things that they wouldn't ordinarily do. There's very little to stop them from committing all sorts of atrocities. The drug makes users take crazy risks like this terrorist wearing a helmet cam who walked right into Israeli gunfire. Yeah he's high man! They're all jacked up on poor man's cocaine We have a, this is from I think this is maybe one of your clips. 2019 A backgrounder on Captagon. Lebanon's Bekaa Valley has a history of smuggling and trafficking of all sorts an area where illegal activities include narcotics Ahmed is one of those who transports and sells a type of amphetamine called Captagon a cheap and hugely popular drug in the Middle East Oh so it's not just for fighters It's just in the Middle East in general

13:10 Alright. Capitoline. Always bring back the Captagon if you want to make it just a little more fun, they're high man! They're crazy and everything was going swimmingly well and I've been waiting for something to pop up and there it was in DC we had a pro-Palestinian protest and well but I happened to catch this on local Fox 5 and I went down the rabbit hole Just days after hundreds of arrests in the Cannon Building right here at the US Capitol, more demonstrations popping up on the National Mall. Let's get to Stephanie Ramirez joining us live. Steph what is the sentiment out there today? People are marching in the pro-Palestinian ceasefire rally.

13:54 Alright, you don't need to hear the whole report. She said it right there this was an organized protest professional signs Ha! As a no agenda conspiracy therapist, this is where we start. The main sign was... Hold on one second Pray for the dead Fight What was that? Pray for the dead fight for peace Now this is typically fight like hell for peace That's when the unions use it

14:50 but they didn't find it appropriate to put hell in here I guess and these signs were made by the if not now movement organization. Ifnotnowmovement.org Quickly, we are if not now a movement of American Jews organizing our community for equality justice and a thriving future for all. Our neighbors ourselves Palestinians and Israelis We are Jews of all ages with ancestors from across the world and Jewish backgrounds as diverse as the ways we practice our Judaism Okay So I'm trying to figure out who's behind this who's funding this and here is a nice little bit in there on their website

15:31 After the war ended, now this was a previous war that they were protesting against. The founders joined the Momentum Organizing Community. That didn't ring any bell. The same community where Sunrise Movement and By the People and many more organized for a brighter future! Wait a minute...Sunrise Movement? Isn't that those kids who were going into Nancy Pelosi's office?! So I'm like, oh okay so this is organized. Let's go to the momentum movement and Momentum a very interesting little outfit here they

16:12 We offer training and support to movement organizers. Momentum offers training and support to hone organizers' skills in shifting public opinion, developing hundreds of leaders and mobilizing by the thousands. We are committed to both strengthening existing groups and incubating new movement organizations." They've got resources they've got guides they're a community of movement leaders and they have apparently no not apparently they have organized this if if not now movement organization. So let's look at this, they have a donate button... Oh! Guess who this is? Not Blue. ActBlue of course it's the Democrat Party. ActBlue now good one good one so it's politics this is politics let's get to the staff of this organization because it's just worth looking at

17:09 Adiel Polidor, Advanced Training Director. Pronouns she her. She's responsible for driving... Oh no it gets better! Responsible for driving our advanced training program supporting the build out of the leadership development pipeline through coaching she leads the momentum 201 training and black momentum okay Amanda Saich interim executive director she's the boss pronouns they-she They, she? Oh it gets better. As Momentum's interim executive director Amanda guides the team's institutional health leadership team and fundraising strategy and supports the larger strategic direction of the organization they immigrated to Wampanoag land as a little toddler and now live in Lenape Land aka Brooklyn

17:55 But they're renaming the towns now? After the Indians who they stole the land from. When they are not organizing or wrapped in the world of momentum, you can catch them jamming out to live music reading sci-fi in a local park or cooking their mom's schizoine recipes Okay We have the operations coordinator Brenda Valadares Bell is what is the point of the schist one? References it's some code. You've got coding Chinese. She's a she's Chinese Brenda Valadares, he's Chinese and concerned about the American Indians using yes Yes, they not she they

18:36 Brenda Valaderes... No, it says she. They she I call her She. Okay well Brenda Valaderes-Beliza is the operations coordinator her pronouns are she her and Ella Ella? She is formerly an undocumented immigrant from Peru. No, she should be exported. Exported! Even extradited I like exported. Recently moved from Patterson New Jersey to Washington Heights she loves to travel and explore different parts of the world watch documentaries video chat with loved ones study law and cook big meals So this is all, these are all lesbians of color. Maoists Marxists I love Delane Andrea Powerful she's managing director pronouns they them them spelled T H E M M E Them

19:29 Delane is a disabled black queer Jamaican who lives and organizes on the occupied lands of the Council of The Three Fires, the Ojibwe, Odawa and Potawatomi Nations in Chicago Illinois. They enjoy playing soccer being a plant auntie whining... A what? A plant auntie I'm just reading. Yes PLANTAONTIE a plant auntie whining their waste and absorbing all things Afrofuturist, Octavia Butler and Marvel Universe. The whole page is filled with this kind of people! These are complete crackpots Yeah, and they're organizing in training the children

20:22 Of all these schools, all these protests it's all political. It's all political and to prove it who shows up in the Atlantic with an article titled Netanyahu's attack on democracy left Israel unprepared? None other than Ann Applebaum. Oh our friend! And Ann says this summer I spent several days in Israel talking with people who were afraid for their country's future They were not at that moment focused on terrorism, Gaza or Hamas. They feared something different the emergence of an undemocratic Israel a de facto autocracy

21:01 I'm just skipping ahead. Thanks to the financial and logistic support of the Israeli tech industry, the most dynamic economic sector in the country as well as two organized teams of people coming from academia and the army reserves, the protests kept going for many months and successfully blocked many of the proposed legal changes." This is all about the fascist, the dictator Netanyahu And here we get into the meat of it. The deep angry divides in Israeli politics, divides that are religious and cultural but they were also deliberately created by Netanyahu and his extremist allies for their political and personal benefit weren't just a problem for some liberal or secular Israelis. The people I met believed that polarization of Israel was an existential risk for everybody! It's worse than climate change

21:49 Earlier this year, the head of Shin Bet, the Israeli domestic intelligence service warned that Israeli settlers who were attacking West Bank Palestinians posed a security threat to the country. One member of parliament from Netanyahu's Likud party responded using language that will sound familiar to Americans quote The ideology of the left has reached the top echelons of the shin bet The deep state has infiltrated the leadership of shin bet and the IDF And here it comes! If Donald Trump becomes president again, they may deliberately set out to weaken the institutions themselves. Yes this is exactly what we're seeing here! This is all about training the Democrats to make sure that Trump doesn't get elected. It's all about Trump. These protests are about Trump... All of this stuff these trainees hate Trump They're all trans Maoists They're bad for America and probably bad for your children

22:52 The whole thing is about politics. All of it, all of it and some of it is about obviously the military-industrial complex that's Fox's job really you know they're supposed to oh CNN has the generals on I like that but here's Judge Dineen in fact I would say bomb them bomb them and then bomb him again this a new one It's a new one. That's totally new yeah that she's completely gone back to her old bomb-em, bomb-em again She has this one? She loves bombing people You have this one? You're loading bombs fueling you're getting new pilots in but they're going in and they're going in hard They know that their existence depends on this I think she digs it man

23:41 She's like, oh yeah. Ah so hot and they're gonna go in hard! Hard here's the last one Somebody is going to drop a nuke here I don't know who it is but I don't want to watch it What does that even mean Judge Jeanine? Somebody's gonna drop a nuke here What is wrong with these people other than they're out there doing anything They are not helping things that for sure No of course not It's horrible It's horrible and social media playing right into it. It is beautiful! The whole thing is a perfect setup, everybody spinning out

24:18 I'm going crazy, this is so great! We got a... Telegram! Telegram is both a messaging and social media app. People in the United States and across the world use it to video call and text message each other or someone can set up a group to send messages to followers By the way Rumble was already on their way out, Telegram is next That second use is what we've seen most during the Israel-Hamas war. When Hamas attacked southern Israel on October 7th, their channel was flooded with propaganda videos showcasing their training and the fight against the nearby Israeli defense forces Both the Hamas account and one for its military wing, the Al Qassem Brigades

25:05 have grown substantially since the war began. The Hamas account has gained more than 100,000 followers while the Al Qassim Brigade account has added half a million new followers." Very questionable source of news. I've been watching the TV feed it's borderline Disgusting do you know who owns most of Fredericksburg? Scripps, you bet Oh yep Yep Almost said 100% I stopped myself no, I'm working on myself. I'm trying I'm trying I really am yep Yep, yep, yep

25:58 As far as I know, nice people actually. But the news is... I'm sure they're long gone from the system. Yeah they don't run it anymore So here's Deutsche Welle telegraphing about Telegram Another front in a fast evolving conflict between Israel and Hamas is the one found online This information is running rampant across social media where millions turn to get real-time updates amid the very real imagery are floods of fabricated videos and photos spread by both fake and real accounts. The companies behind giants like Facebook, X and TikTok say they've taken additional steps to tackle disinformation around the violence but the EU has reprimanded social media companies

26:41 for not doing enough. And about all that we can now speak to Caitlin Chin Rothman, she's with the Center for Strategic and International Studies where she researches the impact of technology on geopolitics and society. Caitlin good to see you lots of people these days getting their information on social media with tensions running so high how are both sides in this conflict using social media to shape views of the war? We've seen seen both Hamas and the Israeli government use posts on social media quite often. Hamas has been posting on a platform called Telegram, which is less popular in the United States and the EU but more popular in other parts of the world like Russia and Ukraine. Telegram has very loose content moderation policies which have allowed Hamas to post

27:29 were violent images from its initial attack on October 7th. I want to look a little closer at Telegram that you just mentioned because it's used by Hamas not only to spread propaganda but also to recruit new members now this is an internationally recognized terror organization, by much of the West at least can the platform be held accountable for that? So it's very difficult. In the United States at least, we have very loose content moderation laws so platforms are generally not held accountable for third party content that users upload now that is different in other countries especially the EU which recently passed the Digital Services Act and online service online safety bill in the United Kingdom is about to come into effect

28:16 Now, Telegram has not seen as much regulatory attention from the EU or the UK. I think partly because it's just not as popular in either jurisdiction. But I think going forward, I would expect governments to become more interested in how Telegram operates, especially if we continue to see violent extremist content emerge on these platforms and real time war situations. This is the perfect moment To clamp down on these, because of course we're in an election season. Very good moment to start clamping down on this stuff because clearly Telegram is a recruitment tool

28:55 Yes, PBS has some short little note here on all the horrible things from social media. The European Union pressed Meta and TikTok to explain what they're doing to block disinformation about the Israel-Hamas war. What are you doing? Tech giants were given one week to respond They could face billions in fines if they don't comply with a new law aimed at protecting users from false claims and other harmful content And this brings us to A gripe a lot of people have with me But also with me and also with you. Me? Oh yeah! Yes, YOU And this is because we poo-pooed... ...and I would say slammed the Westminster Declaration Pearl clutching was Adam Curry Yes, we're pearl clutching I read an email Lord High Imperator Curry Greetings from FEMA region deep south New Zealand

29:53 I need to take issue... Oh, New Zealand? That's this New Zealand. What the hell has a New Zealander got to do with anything that has to do with American censorship or...? This is just indicative of several emails and tweets and toots I received. It sounds fake but go on read it. No it's not fake you just did a Kara Swisher But go ahead. I did! But, go ahead... Go on. Hey wait a minute that was my invention now you're crediting her with it? I need to take issue with the tone of your no agenda story and the Westminster Declaration You are downright snide and your trademark MTV sneer No this is not him reading this letter is snide

30:40 He was pretty straight up with the other thing. You were downright snide with your trademark MTV sneer, which used to ill effect on a group of people merely highlighting the censorship regimes being installed in all Western democracies! Why wouldn't you be supportive of this? I expected immediate fierce pushback from John C. Dvorak but nothing he joined you The Snidely Brothers, brothers in harms. Snidely Brothers I love it! Uncool and the gang Kiwi Paul Uncool and the gang? Holy mackerel this guy should be a copywriter He's good he's good He's good So we have been doing this since episode 133 We have to do it every five to six years And were going to do it again

31:30 I will start off by saying the Westminster declaration was released on the very day, the very day the FCC voted and agreed to create new rules for the reintroduction of net neutrality. I'm sure it's just a coincidence although i say there are no coincidences in the kingdom And they say they want Article 19 to be observed and adhered to from the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Now, any no-agenda person should immediately think that's a United Nations document maybe not the best thing in the world but doesn't matter let's look at article 19. Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights

32:21 Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression. This right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference, and to seek receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers So that's what you're really going to bat over? May I remind you, Glenn Greenwald, Matt Taibbi. These are leftists just because you agree with them on lockdowns and vaccines and what doesn't mean that they're not inherently... They love government regulation! That's what these guys love they thrive on it

33:03 You will not get free speech from commercial platforms or maybe from anything called a platform at all. And what they are calling for, in my mind because it coincides exactly with the vote which was three to two is net neutrality and we have had so much pushback in the past about our stance on net neutrality that people say why wouldn't you want it to be neutral man? Because net neutrality is as honest... Sorry, voice. Net neutrality is as honest as the Inflation Reduction Act haven't we learned these things by now? When they call it something it means the opposite did you like your cell phone alert from the government? Did everyone was bitching and moaning about hey man the government taking over my phone that'll be on every computer you own

33:56 If this goes through and this will lead to digital ID, that is the end game of what they are really asking for. Anonymity will end there goes your trolling because they want title two To adhere to the internet now I listen to FCC chair Rosenvorsel She was on the FCC panel back during Obama when they went through this the first time and she is now The chair And I want to go through a few things from her speech and subsequently play a few historical no agenda clips because we've been through this before. You don't want it, you do not want the government with their net neutrality is a trick. But you know the pandemic did something else? It made crystal clear that broadband is no longer just nice to have its need to have for everyone everywhere

34:54 It's not a luxury. It is a necessity. It is essential infrastructure for modern life No one without it has a fair shot at 21st century success We need broadband to reach 100% of us and we need it to be fast, open and fair Now, I don't have a huge argument with the idea that everybody should have broadband. For some reason we've never been able to really get it together even though we've spent hundreds of millions of dollars giving that to telephone companies to create broadband for everybody—broadband for all this goes back to Obama. It just got stolen!

35:42 A portion of the country still doesn't have it. But that's really the ruse, using the pandemic... Oh man well without broadband we couldn't leave! When we lock you, that is the lamest ruse. That's the one it's like don't worry who cares what does broad? What does one got to do with the other COVID had nothing to do with the internet but okay when we were locked down that's what she was at this oh so we could go to school yes I chopped a whole bunch out of this for obvious reasons So what she wants is on par with the telephone networks back in the era when communications meant

36:18 Telephony, each and every call went through. And the phone company could not cut you off from your call or decide to edit the content of your conversation. You want to say something here? What world was she living in when you had to put a quarter in and you got the yak, yak, yak. And then click your done they cut you off what do mean they never cut you off they cut you off all the time. So where is that imaginary scenario come from this is too trick everybody into wanting this She's lying. I'll get to the... That is a blatant lie! Oh, there's another whopper coming up. From your call or decide to edit the content of your conversation?

37:04 Now, fast forward to the present. Communications means a whole lot more than just phone calls. It means access to the internet because broadband is the most important infrastructure of our time. Note the important, she's very young, important. But as a result of the previous FCC's decision to drop abdicate authority The agency charged with overseeing communications has limited ability to oversee these indispensable networks and make sure that for every consumer their access is fast, open and fair.

37:50 I think that's not right. It's not right! Because for everyone everywhere to enjoy the full benefits of the internet age, Internet access should be more than just accessible and affordable. The internet needs to be open... What? It is more than just accessible and affordable. Seems like accessible affordability is really what it's all about. Nooo! What you want-what what more could you want?! Hold on! And affordable. The internet needs to be open And that's what I want to talk about today. It is open! No, she wants... when the government says, I want it to be open please read that as, I want it to be closed How is it not opened right now? Oh wait they wanna close it off. They wanna close it off Here we go, next clip Let's start in 2005

38:41 And that was when the FCC adopted its first open Internet policy statement, which was built on policies that had long been in communications law and history. The agency made clear that when it came to net neutrality consumers should expect that their broadband providers would not block throttle or engage in paid prioritization of lawful internet traffic. And there's my favorite word! Not lawful content, Lawful Internet Traffic and I have a copy if anyone...I marked it up if you want to go through the entire proposed rulemaking 126 pages the term lawful traffic and lawful transfer

39:23 is all over this thing. This is the main problem, this is the trick." In other words your broadband provider had no business cutting off access to websites, slowing down internet services and censoring online speech. Which never happened! There's not one example of that. Your broadband provider... The broadband internet provider just provides the broadband he doesn't he's not Twitter They barely do that your broadband provider was not allowed to play favorites like steering you fast to some online service that had given them a payout. Never happened! And assigning you to a bumpy road for those who had not offered up the same pay. Never happened, you're right this is all bullcrap but I hope you get to the end here because i wanted no go with your spiel about lawful now we're getting to that this is a presentation these clips are all very short it's an important presentation

40:23 And the next part is her explanation of why Title II, the same regulation for your phone line. And there's regulation! There's a lot of stuff you can't do on the phone and I think I'm pretty sure that government completely can hear and do anything they want on your phone networks. But we need Title II now for the internet, here's why. Title II is the part of the law that gives the FCC clear authority to serve as a watchdog... Watchdog! ...over the communications marketplace and look out for the public interest. Okay

41:01 I'm from the government, i'm here to help. Title II took on special importance in the net neutrality debate because the courts have ruled that the FCC has clear authority to enforce open internet policies if broadband internet is classified as a title 2 service Very important what she's saying here Not saying that the court said, yeah you should be doing this. They say if it is classified as Title II then the FCC has absolute authority over the Internet just trust Uncle Adam and Uncle John you don't want this. And providing a strong foundation for net neutrality rules is a good reason to support classifying broadband internet as a Title II service

41:44 But again, there are downstream consequences that flow from the agency retreating from Title II. Downstream consequences that flow? That doesn't sound healthy! And they need attention so let me explain Back to the pandemic. It made clear that broadband is essential infrastructure for modern life, access to the internet is now access to everything. And common sense tells us that the nation's leading communications watchdog should have the muscle it needs... Yes, you want to say something? You know...

42:30 Listening to this is very annoying because I know that other people must be lapping it up. And I would include the people that signed that document. Yes. Lapping it up, not realizing that it's a trick. We're getting there. It's complete bogus trick. Should have the muscle it needs to protect consumers and make sure their internet access is fast open and fair. Now to A Big Lie! Here's a big lie. On one issue after issue, classifying broadband as a Title II service would help the FCC serve the public interest more efficiently and effectively. So let's start with public safety

43:11 In its remand of the FCC's decision to roll back net neutrality, the court found the agency's disregard of its duty to analyze the impact of public safety renders the decision arbitrary and capricious. I agree. Here we go! The record before the court demonstrated that when firefighters in Santa Clara California were responding to wildfires they discovered that the wireless connectivity on their command vehicle was being throttled Lie! That's a lie because we reported on this in episode 1079, November 21st 2018. Let's go back and let's listen to what the story really was And wasn't that Verizon that came into very bad light because they cut off the firefighters in California cause they had run out of data? Bastards That was Verizon correct

44:09 I believe so. And so these guys had to, they couldn't use their account They had to switch to a different account according to the Verizon rep because they'd run out of data and of course these guys are there fighting fires and they needed data So it was a bad PR story for Verizon Let me just go back and listen to what the FCC chairwoman lied. The record before the court demonstrated that when firefighters in Santa Clara, California were responding to wildfires they discovered... Discovered! ...the wireless connectivity on their command vehicle was being throttled It was not being throttled so she's lying As usual, liars.

45:20 So this FCC that's so hot shit, why haven't they done anything about the 10 or 20 robocalls I get a day? Then look at privacy. The law requires telecommunications providers to protect the confidentiality of the proprietary information of their customers That means these providers cannot sell your location data, among other sensitive information. These privacy protections currently extend to phone service customers but not to broadband subscribers because Title II does not cover the latter. Does that really make sense? Do we want our broadband providers selling off where we go and what we do online? Scraping our service for a payday from new artificial intelligence models?

46:08 Doing any of this without our permission? Yeah, so I was you were one clip ahead of me exactly the robo call still continue They have done nothing with their title to authority to stop that Nothing no. Nothing zip and they could not do something if they wanted to and in meanwhile This bullcrap this other stuff is all bull crap The providers aren't tracking us Apple might be tracking us Google might be tracking us these are providers So I pulled two clips so we don't have to, you know just because we're lazy. We don't have to really go over everything all over again Let me see what happened is this? What is this weird clip? No but I may revisit my old columns. I've been writing about this for a decade This is no agenda episode 950 And that is from July 27th 2017

47:07 This is Greg Walden. He's a Republican from Oregon and he is the head guy of the Energy & Commerce Committee, he's the chair and he is a very powerful person. And just listen to the question he asked this is Net Neutrality Basics opening. to stop the ping pong game of regulations and litigation. And make no mistake, given the importance of this public policy debate and the work we need to do as a committee it is essential that we hear directly from the country's top internet and edge provider leaders who frequently speak out publicly about rules of the Internet It's time they came before us and directly shared their positions and answered our questions

48:09 Wow. Yeah, I think there's some subtext there. There is a little more than subtext don't you think? Geez! Time to stop this series of tubes. That's the guy when he... He said quote it's time for Congress to legislate the rules of the Internet Boom shakalaka Could it be any more clear to anybody out there listening what they're asking? Podcast license podcast license It's coming That's what will happen with net neutrality. That's what happens with Title II It's time to legislate the rules of the Internet hate speech is already illegal in 49 states whatever that means now to the genesis of our reporting we go back to 2009 No agenda episode 133 and this brings back the core term here, The fifth principle of non-discrimination

49:08 The fifth principle is one of non-discrimination stating that broadband providers cannot discriminate against particular internet content or applications. This means they cannot block or degrade lawful traffic over their networks, or pick lawful traffic okay? So that means you're gonna have to sniff it I mean its all in here right You can just see what they are doing Lawful traffic What is lawful traffic Okay All traffic is lawful Okay so I think we should be sorry We should declare that the last 20 years was the golden age of porn. It's all over, it's all over! That's right They cannot disfavor an internet service just because it competes with a similar service? This principle will not prevent broadband providers from reasonably managing their networks During periods of network congestion for example... ...it may be appropriate for providers to ensure that very heavy users do not crowd out everyone else

50:06 like BitTorrent users. And this principle will not constrain efforts to ensure a safe, secure and spam-free internet experience! I don't want a safe, secure, spam free internet experience! I want porn...I want pop ups....I want all kinds of viruses that's what makes the Internet cool! for 16 years. You don't want your Westminster Declaration from a bunch of... By the way, the Westminster Declaration wasn't that like against catechism or something? It was like

50:45 It's like a bunch of atheists hijacking some religious vibe. I have no idea, but you do not want as a reference to something else obviously you don't want net neutrality it sounds great but just remember net neutrality is as honest as the inflation reduction act well let's get back to this lawful thing which used to pet peeve yours and i think it's the basis yeah that's the crux which Torrents will be illegal. You have a deep packet sniffer, it sees a tor or whatever you want to call it advertising and sees it says up nap no good this means anyone out there who thinks are gonna download music or big giant files from each other

51:31 I think they'll probably put the archive.org out of business and everything in between mm-hmm this whole thing is a it's always about copyright of course it's always driven by the movie or the movie companies yeah somebody's losing ten cents or a buck because you know there's somebody's downloaded an old copy of some movie from the 30s And they could have probably maybe begged somebody. There's no available copy of it, but you know Turner Classic Movies likes to play it once a year and so you're taking money for even though they don't do advertising but you're still taking their bread and butter away I mean this whole thing is always about the movie industry It's about

52:13 It's about the content, the copyrighted content and how it's... I own it. And I get to do what I want with it So throughout this entire document these are the things you need to be looking out for This is their proposed rules and this will take a little bit But they've gone through the initial hurdle of, and that was three weeks after the speech. And that was on the 19th so it's on our last show day they voted 3 to 2 good to go we're going to move forward with the rulemaking process The same day those yahoos came out with their Westminster declaration. In order to fit the technical and economic realities of the broadband ecosystem, the restrictions on blocking and discrimination will be made subject to an exception for quote reasonable network management allowing service providers the freedom to address legitimate needs

53:08 such as avoiding network congestion and combating harmful or illegal content. Well, go look at... I mean this is exactly what you don't want because it's open to interpretation what is harmful. Yeah anti-vax information that was accurate about the vaccine Is that harmful? Of course, of course you're killing people. But some people think it is so now you have one group of people who think all that information is good and valuable and another group saying oh it's terrible! It's making people so they're reluctant to take the vax. Additionally we propose to reinstate a general conduct standard

53:57 that would prohibit practices that would cause unreasonable interference or unreasonable disadvantage to consumers or edge providers. So what is reasonable? They don't define it, of course. No you can't define it! And then its safeguarding national security so the NSA is going to be in the network they're going to have to be able to safeguard... It's for your protection all this is for your protection Commission's efforts in coordination with other agencies will be protecting the nation's communications network from entities and equipment and services that pose... I mean listen to this. Equipment and services that pose threats to national security and law enforcement. Uh-oh, someone is using Graphene OS!

54:49 Orange alert, orange alert. Someone has a non-approved device connected to it and these efforts will be pursuant to Presidential Policy Directive 21 but go look at that! That's a doozy which tasked the commission, FCC with identifying communication sector vulnerabilities and working with industry and other stakeholders to address those vulnerabilities and increase the security and resilience of this critical infrastructure within the communications sector. And here's my favorite. Another initiative is the Commission's inquiry into vulnerabilities threatening the security and integrity of Border Gateway Protocol, which impacts the transmission of data from email e-commerce and bank transactions to interconnected voice over IP and 911 calls

55:43 The commission noted that Border Gateway Protocol's initial design, which remains widely deployed today does not include security features to ensure trust in the information it is used to exchange. This is going after DNS they want DNS they want that they wanna be able to disconnect your entire network segment Yeah, they want to be able to pull the plug on who they don't like. It allows a bad network actor to deliberately falsify BGP reachability information to redirect traffic to itself through a specific third-party network which means that's what they want to do. What you say about yourself? Hey man we should be able to redirect us and prevent traffic from reaching its intended recipient

56:34 Reclassification would provide the Commission with additional authority to address BGP vulnerabilities. There's enough dudes named Ben out there who know that this is nuts, so when we have these intellectual dark web people all lefties, Bret Weinstein all leftists who are saying hey man we should be able to... We shouldn't be kicked off of Twitter or Facebook You know, it should be fair. We should be able to say what we want to say." You're going to get it! You're gonna get exactly what you want and exactly what you want. I wonder who was behind that thing? I don't believe it was Taibbi or Greenwald. They are not guys who initiate these things. It had to be someone else. That's a good point

57:24 I'm not so sure. There's a troublemaker in that group who got the crowd riled up. Well, it's Greenwald and Taibbi are leading the charge at the top of list Yeah that's what you'd put if i was putting something together like that those are two guys they got to big numbers They've got a lot of attention to themselves they seem legit in every way I would put them at the top of the list too, but there's got to be somebody that organized this and it wasn't them. That's a good... Let's look at the list again so Taibbi, Schellenberger. Schellenberger sounds more like it! Yeah, Schellenberger he went to court and again I agree with a lot of things Schellenberger has said and done yeah but he's misguided Jonathan Haidt H-I-D-T He's written a lot about

58:15 Bad things that happen to people with social networks. I'm Steven Pinker these that's his partner, I think Julian Assange is on here at him to sign anything. No Tim Robbins is on board. He's right I Think Tim Robins, I doubt it John Cleese they just wait hey man we need some leaves Oliver Stone all leftists Yeah the old yeah all of them Jordan Peterson, Barry Weiss Peter Hitchens, Niall Ferguson Yanis Varoufakis a Marxist. Yeah open Marxists yeah so there's a couple of open Marxists on there yeah yeah

59:04 Yeah, there's no right what name one right winger I mean you might make the argument that Peterson is kind of a right-winger about it. I don't know I don't know but he but There's name a you know some you have classic classic classic classic people listed on there But you don't have the classic people on the right? There's nobody No They needed a John C. Dvorak and Adam Curry on this list, if there's money in it they could have gotten us. A lot of these people are very wealthy. Keep your names off these things people! A lot of these people are wealthy too not all but many of them are quite well. And one last thing about the net neutrality thing we have to remember because they keep saying it's got to be fair and you know cheap

59:48 One of my networks is Sonic. Sonic has two programs, they have a gigabit and they have a 2-gigabit. Well I have to pay more for the 2-gigabit that would be kicked off... That's kicked off the planet because there's no why would it? That's unfair that I'd have to pay more to get their higher speed. So everything will be downgraded. All your speeds will go down with net neutrality. Fast open and fair So it because everyone has to have the same speed. It's a way of, you know leveling the playing field meaning you're going to get whatever the minimum is Is everyone happy with their telephone service now that's on their title too? Yeah i'm still getting the calls I got a call from Eliza The roboca had that so that worked really well anyway put a link into open internet gov the um archive.org version because that was the previous uh You can just you can go review

1:00:48 That was the previous website, that's gone now of course. And you've got a spam-free internet! If someone is telling you can get a spam free internet then they are sniffing packets or doing something... That's a lie what they're doing is lying Yeah because they want control and even the Republicans as you heard They're ready for it Yes time to moderate that thing and why are they doing it? They're doing it now because they want to get stuff rammed through so they can control elections Control what's going on during elections. It's obvious." Yeah, so they can keep Trump out! It all comes back down to Trump She's a Wesleyan grad in the FCC. Well let's talk about the campaign then with a little overview this is the clip is 10-24 campaign it's about 2024 I just put the one in there for by accident

1:01:48 Okay, now the Democrat might soon enter the 2024 presidential race challenging President Biden for the nomination. This comes as a new poll today shows former president Trump is leading over Biden in a potential 2024 matchup and these area and pasta house an election update fact my bipartisan pathways to congressman Dean Phillips is reportedly planning to enter the 2024 presidential race Politico reports the Minnesota Democrat could challenge President Biden for the Democratic nomination. Phillips is reportedly laying the groundwork in key early states, paving the way for the announcement of his presidential run

1:02:26 This comes as a new poll on Friday shows former President Trump is leading over Biden in a potential 2024 matchup. The new Emerson College poll shows that 47% of voters say they'd vote for Trump, 45 percent say they're supporting Biden less than 10 percent are undecided the same poll gives Trump an even stronger lead when it comes to young voters. Emerson found that Trump leads Biden by 11 points in voters in their 30s Just on Friday, Trump attacked Biden on Truth Social for the president's handling of international affairs. Trump says the Israel war started because of the Biden administration and their policies of weakness and appeasement He added this is true also with Ukraine-Russia which would never have started under the Trump administration And many other hot spots around the globe that could easily lead to big problems and death

1:03:19 Meanwhile, Republicans with less approval in the polls are fighting each other. Especially Florida Governor Ron DeSantis and former South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley. The two went back and forth all week long on the issue of taking in refugees from Gaza. Now just on Friday Haley released a new campaign ad directly targeting DeSantis I find it very interesting that she still is out there and trying to get some action. She's got big Silicon Valley money behind her? I think she has big oil money behind her too Yeah, she's got money. She got lots of money but she hasn't got she just money doesn't buy charisma Charisma she got charisma She hasn't got that she hasn't got enough of that to get by which is a shame for her But I don't like your policies anyway. She's really anti-trump. She's pro war she might as well be an EO con He's very pro war yeah the mom again

1:04:16 the big anti-Trump news that we had to stop breaking news. By the way, notice that all the NBC channels they're all pro Palestine and it's not because they hate Jews or care about Palestinians is because Trump yeah their base there viewers are the people who are mind controlled by this outfit to go out in protest It's all, it's all anti-Trump. It's all political has they... They're actually the worst people in the world because they really don't care either way. They don't care who is killed or whose baby heads are chopped off faster than the other. They don't care! It's about Trump

1:04:59 And boy, were the networks happy with this news. Sidney Catherine Powell- She was at the center of Donald Trump's effort to overturn his 2020 loss publicly pushing outlandish claims of election fraud and privately meeting with the former president inside The White House but tonight just one day before her trial was set to begin Sidney Powell pleading guilty and agreeing to cooperate with prosecutors Miss Powell do you understand the charges that are against you here today? I do Howell spread the false conspiracy theory Georgia election machines were controlled by Venezuela even pointing a finger at the country's former dictator Hugo Chavez who was dead. This was exported from Venezuela and by Maduro and by Mr. Chavez this is the consummate

1:05:44 foreign interference in our election. In an Oval Office meeting on December 18th, 2020 Powell allegedly suggesting Trump name her special counsel to investigate election fraud in that same meeting Trump and his team allegedly weighed seizing voting machines even declaring martial law as part of her plea deal Powell is now required to testify against her co-defendants including the former president So that's the ABC version And by the way what she so what she She did a plea deal, which is probably what she needed to do to not... Yeah I have another clip.

1:06:22 about the other guy who just did the plea deal after she did and if you listen to it and read between the lines, this is The Georgia Clip says Georgia. If you read between the lines or listen between the lines these guys are doing this just to save I mean they're not getting any jail or anything they're doing it to save their pocketbook. They'd go broke! Their pocketbook? I only have Georgia Plea Bargain 2 Is there a 1? Unfortunately, no. In order Georgia defendant cuts a deal attorney Ken Chesbro gets five years probation in exchange for cooperating with prosecutors that leaves 16 defendants including former President Trump in the Fulton County Rico case here's more from legal correspondent Arlene Richards

1:07:05 Another day, another plea deal. A third defendant in the sprawling Georgia election racketeering case pleads guilty He's the second attorney to do so but the only one to accept a felony charge How do you plead to count 15 conspiracy to commit filing false documents in indictment number 23 SC 188947 Guilty. Attorney Ken Chesbrough was facing six felony charges in the election fraud case brought by prosecutor Fonny Willis against 19 defendants. The prosecutor said she would have shown at trial that- I thought it was Fannie, now it's Fonny! It's Fonnyyyy how I love ya! And several other defendants... ...entered into a criminal conspiracy to cause certain other co-conspirators including David J. Schaefer, Shawn Micah Thackeray

1:07:57 Thrasher Steele and Kathleen Austin Latham to falsely hold themselves out as the duly elected and qualified electors for the president and vice president from Georgia following the November 3rd, 2020 presidential election. This is interesting. So I think Georgia is one of the few places where you can put a whole bunch of things together and then call it a conspiracy, so these conspiracy charges that Sidney Powell pled guilty to are misdemeanors. She got like $5,000 fine and it was literally to commit international interference with performance of election duties

1:08:40 I don't know what that means. This is one of those situations where people should realize it if the government, especially state governments that are corrupt at the point, at the district attorney level. And they just want to go after you by dumping stuff on you and they have an amenable judge because most judges that aren't amenable to this sort of thing, they just throw the case out immediately say we got better things do with our time but if you had that situation, kind of a perfect storm You're screwed friend of ours went to jail for 18 months over something stupider. Yeah, very similar the DA had a grudge Yep and had a relationship with the with the prosecution yep There's no harm no financial harm but off off to the big house

1:09:30 CBS, their version. Sidney Powell the conspiracy peddling former attorney for- By the way we do hang with criminals it's kind of cool to say. Former President Donald Trump sat in a Fulton County courtroom today and admitted to her role in the breach of voting systems in Georgia Are you pleading guilty today because you agree that there is a sufficient factual basis? That there are enough facts that support this plea of guilty Powell was sentenced to six years probation, will pay thousands in fines and write an apology letter to the citizens of Georgia. I love that. You have to write on the blackboard 50 times, I will not commit this bad conspiracy. Along with Trump she was one of 19 defendants in the case brought by District Attorney Fannie Willis. Fannie! Powell agreed to testify truthfully against her co-defendants at future trials If i'm Donald Trump or if I am Donald Trump's lawyer

1:10:23 I would certainly not be happy. Beyond Georgia, Powell was a central figure in pushing Trump's false election denial claims. President Trump won by a landslide? In an now infamous December 2020 Oval Office showdown, Powell pushed to seize voting machines to look for fraud and although Trump entertained her conspiracy theories some White House lawyers were appalled What they were proposing, I thought was nuts. How's impact? That's not the same as being appalled He thought it was nuts. He wasn't appalled I thought was nuts pals impact on Trump and others in the case could be significant You were ever in the room with Sidney Powell you are very very nervous What you notice from the reporting and I had to go on? I had to look for about 10 minutes to find out what she actually pled guilty to all of this is

1:11:16 is they make it sound like she committed some horrible offense and they just, you know... They don't actually tell you what she pled guilty to. And here's the final one from NBC. Wait wait wait before you... That last one was ABC? No that was CBS. Last one was CBS. Oh CBS okay I just want to mention your comment about That was nuts and saying that was appalled, he got was appalled when he wasn't. It's a very different emotion. I think it is a great example of slanted coverage NBC tonight once an attorney then a co-defendant now a cooperator. How do you plead to the sixth council of conspiracy to commit? Once an attorney has she been disbarred I don't think she's been disbarred, has she? Has she been disbarred? I don't think so. Once an attorney then now a criminal. That's it the Bar Association disbars you not that judge. You know you're a criminal! Tonight once an attorney and then a codefendent now a cooperator

1:12:11 How do you plead to the six counts of conspiracy to commit intentional interference with reforms of election duties? Guilty. So that was interesting, NBC puts it right at the top of their report. Sidney Powell one of 19 charged alongside the former president in a sprawling conspiracy to overturn the 2020 election results in Georgia pleading guilty to six reduced charges in court today just as jury selection for her trial was set to begin tomorrow Do you agree that there is a sufficient factual basis, that there are enough facts to support this plea of guilty? I do. You see what they're doing? This is great! A remarkable about-face for one of Mr Trump's fiercest defenders. I'm going to release the Kraken. Kraken! Often pushing base conspiracy theories... Well done. Where did the kraken go? Kudos kudos for NBC on the kraken. Yeah very good edit job. A remarkable about face for one of Mr Trump's fiercest defenders. I'm going to release the kraken

1:13:05 Often pushing baseless conspiracy theories the last election was stolen. President Trump won by a landslide, we are going to prove it! Instead she's now admitted to helping organize the breach of sensitive voting equipment in a rural elections office agreeing as part of the new plea deal with prosecutors To write an apology letter to the people of Georgia hand over documents to investigators and come clean about all that she knows About her former client as Mr. Trump continues to fight the charges against him to testify truthfully against any... So this is interesting. The voice over here says, to come clean about everything she knows! Come clean! No the only thing because right it's followed by the truth

1:13:50 You will testify truthfully? As part of the new plea deal with prosecutors to write an apology letter to the people of Georgia, hand over documents to investigators and come clean about all that she knows about her former client as Mr. Trump continues to fight the charges against him Here to testify truthfully against any and all co-defendants in this matter at any upcoming proceedings. Powell's testimony likely an asset for the Fulton County DA who has now managed to secure two guilty pleas so far. I mean, testify truthfully doesn't mean that it is an advantage to the prosecution No it could be a disadvantage She probably thought yeah I'll testify truthfully

1:14:30 Yeah, sure. Why wouldn't you? That's what you do that's what you're supposed to do that's what happens when he pledged to testify and once you have a plea deal That's it they can't renege on that I don't think yeah They can unless your hunter bite no they can they can oh There's a lot of different ways. You know watching enough criminal TV shows. Don't I don't yeah. Oh, I'm sorry no good Yeah, they can renege but they won't. They don't have time for it because it's costing them money too. Yeah yeah yeah They're just you know make it sound like she's got some the goods She has the goods gonna come clean and turn in turning Trump guys cuz he was obviously ringing his hands and going here's what we're gonna do ladies I Don't think so oh That was good

1:15:16 I love that. Let's see, of course we had on the last show day we had President Biden doing his primetime message what did you think is Jacks up factor was? I give him a five it was low i agree i was expecting more jackness but around four minutes he started to stutter and he was coughing oh they didn't keep him on long mm-hmm they don't get enough juice they don't leave them on if they have to if they give him a good hot shot Just below enough to kill him. He'll go, he can go an hour. Good hot shot! Yeah Alright here's ABCs report Tonight for the first time the US has taken military action in this war to defend... Oh I'm sorry that's not the right one That's not the right one

1:16:02 Here is CBS. That's what I'm we're going to begin with a very forceful message from President Biden last night Did you see it? He's urging the American people to rally around Israel and Ukraine The president made his case last night in a rare primetime address from the Oval Office your rare No kidding he argued that the US should not should not let partisan politics get in the way of billions of dollars of new aid to those countries, a clear message to Congress. The president's speech comes as the US faces criticism in the Arab world for supporting Israel and its controversial bombing campaign in Gaza with a possible ground invasion looming. For more on this critical moment in global politics let's bring in Ed O'Keefe who is at The White House. Ed good morning

1:16:44 Nate, good to see you. For the first time last night the president tied together the conflict in Ukraine and the conflict in the Middle East arguing sustained US engagement now could mean less American bloodshed later. How many times are these guys going to pass off this story? What do you mean pass it off? The one guy comes on and he passes of to number two and number two passes off to number three Do they ever tell us a story?! Yes. Let me share with you why making sure Israel and Ukraine succeed is vital for America's national security President Biden in a rare Oval Office primetime address How many times do I have to say rare? So rare, so rare Very rare, very rare Very rarely does that Very rare Laid out the stakes for Americans And he has some convincing to do Rare stakes As new CBS polling finds More than half of Americans disapprove Of how the president is handling The Israel-Hamas conflict

1:17:34 And notably, a third of Democrats disapprove. Which creates a challenge as he prepares to ask to spend billions more to defend Israel. That third of Democrats they're the mind controls. What that is you have 30% of mind controlled people. And Ukraine. Hamas and Putin represent different threats but they share this in common They both want to completely annihilate a neighboring democracy And while Russia's invasion of Ukraine stretches into nearly its 20th month, the president gave some of his most expansive comments yet justifying continued U.S support. If we walk away and let Putin erase Ukraine's independence would be aggressors around the world being emboldened to try the same? Mr Biden is set to ask Congress today for roughly $100 billion

1:18:19 billion dollars in emergency spending over the next year. It includes 60 billion dollars to support Ukraine, around 14 billion dollars for Israel and a 5 million dollar VIG and the rest would support Indo-Pacific countries including Taiwan against Chinese aggression plus billions more U.S. border security and disaster relief is a smart investment that's going to pay dividends for American security for generations The speech comes as overall Americans strongly support sending humanitarian aid to Israelis and Palestinians, and in using diplomacy to try to end the conflict. I caution the government of Israel not to be blinded by rage. The president also... I love, I love... You're in a bomb! I love the editing job here. ... humanitarian aid to Israelis and Palestinians and in using diplomacy to try to end the conflict. I caution the goverment of Israel not to be blinded by rage

1:19:13 The president also denounced attacks on innocent Palestinians abroad and here at home. Recalling the brutal murder this week of a six-year old Muslim boy from the Chicago area. Officials say the Palestinian American was stabbed to death by his family's landlord in a hate crime attack. To all you hurting, I want you know that I see you. You belong And I want to say this to you, You're all America. He's talking to the base and he reiterated dual global conflicts are a direct threat even worlds away American leadership is what holds the world together

1:19:49 American alliances will keep us, America safe. Yeah real safe. I have that they chopped that clip but i have a 13 second continuous Biden from speech and I brought here odd comment there's something about the when you piece it together listening to it this way its got an odd moment I'm going to send to Congress an urgent budget request. To fund America's national security needs, to support our critical partners including Israel and Ukraine is a smart investment that's gonna pay dividends for American security for generations. It's gonna pay dividends?

1:20:28 How's it gonna pay dividends? Well, it's going to pay dividends for everyone who invests in the Ukraine rebuilding project is going to get dividends. Yeah but there's no... Does that mean we're gonna get all that business? What?! A president lying! No, of course not. But we know that the consultants said you got to get in now getting on the ground on the ground floor because the money's coming. The 60 billion this is what it's for and there's a five billion vig in there somewhere that I think goes to James Biden This is also corrupt. It...I thought that Israel-Hamas was the...this was the big one this is the Big War! This is what we really need to be afraid of but no most of the money goes to Ukraine

1:21:14 I don't get it anymore. Now, of course the president's speech did not do the right thing at all and Bolton came out The mustache fart sniffer. The principal threat to peace and security in the Middle East today, and for some years back has been Iran In the current circumstance they're the ones who have armed and trained and equipped and financed Hamas They've done the same with Palestinian Islamic Jihad They've done the same with Hezbollah They've done the same with the Syrian military And remember just yesterday demonstrating again they've done it with the Houthi rebels in Yemen

1:21:55 A U.S. destroyer in the Red Sea destroyed several cruise missiles and I think some drones heading north in the Red Sea, probably toward Israel so the hoodies wouldn't have two rocks to rub together if it weren't for the equipment Iran has given them. Iran is a central factor here and last night the President's address which was fine as far as it went did not address that crucial point how can you have a strategy if you don't know what the main threat is? I would say bomb them, bomb them and then bomb them again. Yes this is uh he's talking about the hoodies hoodie in the blowfish i don't know it's who these you mustache jerk The real question is do you want to deal with a threat from Iran or do you want to pretend that it doesn't exist? The administration has gone out of its way

1:22:42 to pretend that it doesn't exist, including its chief Iran negotiator Rob Malley having his security clearance suspended in April by the State Department's Diplomatic Security Bureau. The chief negotiator under security investigation? It is just unbelievable! Somebody is going to drop a nuke here I don't know who it is but I do not want to watch Ah yes, this is how we draw Iran into the conflict. It's crazy! The hoodies and blowfish up there they got drones they got cruise missiles I mean that's gotta be around right? Tonight for the first time the US has taken military action in this war to defend Israel. Yeah yeah

1:23:27 Yeah, with the hooties. The USS Kearney a guided missile destroyer in the northern Red Sea shooting down three land-attack cruise missiles and several drones they say were launched from Yemen possibly towards Israel by Iran-backed hootie forces. This is just this is ABC of course Martha Raddatz these people are warmongers they are paid off and completely under control by the military industrial complex And if the idea, by the way that from Yemen where they're having the time of their lives fighting against the Saudis

1:24:05 They're gonna waste a missile and send it toward, for some reason... with our defenses right there. They're going to send it toward Israel just randomly? It doesn't make any sense! We cannot say for certain what these missiles and drones were targeting but they were launched from Yemen heading north along the Red Sea potentially towards targets in Israel I get potentially, we're not sure. Potentially maybe but we can't be sure nobody knows People believe and it's likely true The US is bolstering its firepower in the region a second carrier strike group joining U.S warships already in the Mediterranean and additional fighter aircraft also being sent all meant as a deterrent We aim to send a strong message intended to deter a wider conflict

1:24:55 to bolster regional stability and of course, to make it clear that we will protect and defend our national security interests. And tonight real concern for US forces in the region with attacks against U.S bases in Iraq and Syria In the past 24 hours and another today one drone shot down no injuries reported but a U.S contractor sheltering in place in Iraq died of cardiac arrest Some guy had a heart attack? Yeah. Contractor? Yep Hey buddy, if you don't like it in the Middle East get out! Well I got most of my clips from Al Jazeera because they seem to be trying to be objective. Uh okay well you know what Ron DeSantis says... I wouldn't trust anything from Al Jazeera! Yeah well he..I dunno where- You can't get reasonable coverage from anybody but Al Jazeera and I hate to say that

1:25:56 But let's start with the Gaza convoy, which has been a fiasco report from Al Jazeera. This is war Gaza convoy report. A small convoy of 20 trucks carrying food and medicine have entered Gaza through the Rafah crossing from Egypt and are unloading their desperately needed cargo but rights groups say the aid won't even make a dent in terms of relief for the 2.3 million Palestinians as Harry Fawcett reports They've been standing ready for days and at last the first lorries carrying desperately needed supplies were on the move from Egypt into Gaza. Just 20 of them, what aid agencies are calling a drop in the ocean when a sustained reliable supply is what Gaza's people require. We hope this is the beginning and that sufficient aid will arrive and there would be global pressure to stop the aggression on Gaza

1:26:51 Food, water and medicine were all unloaded but no fuel. Part of Israeli conditions barring anything it says could aid Hamas and the border was closed again immediately No way out for those with foreign passports who'd been told to gather there Among them the mother-in-law of Scotland's first minister Humza Yousaf People of Gaza want to live They can't in the night even breathe There is not air They suffer I watch their children play in the day And cry in the evening My heart has broken Wow, good. Well at least Al Jazeera is learning how to use that trauma-based entertainment.

1:27:35 mother or daughter or sister of some Irish, you know diplomat I guess. We've noticed this and they let the two American hostages go. You know do you have any clips on that because that whole thing smells very fishy? I only have a couple of comments in the...I was looking there's a clip I want to get but There is that thing stinks. You're right, yeah and in fact with the these clips here this two more hostages tale Is worth playing because they've decided they're gonna release a couple more And they just really say we don't want them you using this for propaganda And so they so Al Jazeera brings on a complainer who's a Hamas guy going? Yeah These guys they won't do anything We try to help them and word you know we're getting no

1:28:29 Just play this in Gaza and the military wing of Hamas says Israel has refused to accept its offer to release two more captives. Gazan Brigades says it wanted to release the captives on humanitarian grounds and without conditions The Israeli Prime Minister's office has responded saying that they will not address questions Quote false Hamas propaganda and will continue to work to bring all captives and those missing back home Earlier my colleague Folly Batty Bo spoke to Hamas spokesman Khaled al-kadumi He says there were no clear reasons for Israel to reject their proposal. They were too cowardly

1:29:06 Wait a minute, were these hostages in Qatar? No, I don't think so. They're gonna give him the guitar and this whole read this report just Emphasizes what's wrong with the first those two those first to the girl and her mom who were praised as? supporters of BLM and part of the movement This reads like a UFC script

1:29:47 The whole thing. Yeah, it does! It's really really lame and when you listen to this guy going on and on... I want to roll back again i want to hear exactly what he said but wait one more i want to mention if you're gonna release just release them you don't have to what is Israel got to do with it just let him go a humanitarian position we decided to hand them over today who is this guy? Who's this guy talking This is the Hamas spokesperson. Okay, that proposal this is the Baghdad bill or whatever you call it. Baghdad Bob I forgot about him! They were two captives with the Al Qassam Brigade and due to severe humanitarian position we decided to hand them over to their families through the brothers in Qatar so and that's what we have informed them last night

1:30:41 and without anything in return. But unfortunately, the government of Israel they refused to take them And that is also proof our ideas that this occupation this Israeli government is not serious and it's not ready to stop this bloodshed continuous situation Did the Israelis tell the Qataris who are negotiating these releases, did they tell them why they refused to take these two captives? We didn't receive anything on that. Wait a minute so our best friend in the region refuses to take hostages who are Americans

1:31:30 No, these weren't Americans. They're just a couple of randos. Oh, randos! Okay, it's just randos... Well who cares about the randos? I don't even believe any this story the whole thing seems fishy and Israel thinks is bogus so they just don't want to deal with it why not give them to the Qataris there are other things you can do with them But okay, let's play part two. Okay you say they were released... You wanted to release them because of severe humanitarian conditions? What conditions precisely? Were they injured? There is nothing I can share with friends over here

1:32:08 more than what has been come with the statements of Abu Ubaidah, that those two captives they were in the custody of Al-Qassam Brigade and due to their position, to their humanitarian position we decided to hand them over. To refute the lies of the Israeli government about our fighters and their high morals and high values, that they respect the prisoners and the captives. And they deem them as guests and they will live as our other people live in Gaza. But again, I mean the Israeli government is not serious Previously we have announced that we are having four prisoners before this war and the Netanyahu government refused to talk anything about this swap and exchanging their prisoners And today we're having hundreds of them Still, we are... We have offered to hand over those

1:33:11 the captives who are in severe humanitarian condition for a sole reason of humanitarian reasons that we wanted to return them to their families. But the governments, they are not serious on that. They want to continue killing our children and they want to continue bombardment the houses, the safe families in their homes and the bombardment of mosques There's hospitals, churches and they want to continue over like that. And unfortunately it looks that the American government is supporting their position. Mr. Kandumi if I can just interrupt you for a second just to get a bit more from from from you on this You say Hamas, the Al Qassam brigades were prepared to release

1:33:54 those captives with severe humanitarian conditions and Al Qasam Brigades have said they want to do this free of charge, with nothing in exchange. This is weird. The guy won't explain what the extreme humanitarian conditions are, that's strange. By the way this was once kind of like Al Jazeera during this reporting they actually have reporters in Israel all over the place and in Gaza all over the place and they're giving us material that's kind of funny Do they have flak jackets on with media? No! This one says two more second round then he brought somebody else into talk more BS

1:34:34 And this continues, this analysis or non-analysis or whatever you want to call it. I just found it kind of interesting Mo, how is this playing out on the ground with the public in Israel? So Emily this is interesting because we saw something relatively new happening when compared to what's been going on the past few weeks. Saturday evening you had a protest hundreds of people in Tel Aviv gathering in front of the Ministry of Defense many of them were relatives of those who are being held captive by Hamas inside of Gaza And there was a level of anger being demonstrated to the government here that we've not yet really seen up until this point. Many of these relatives essentially saying that the Israeli government is not doing enough to ensure their release at these, of these captives, that they would like to see the government do more than they would like the government to implement as ceasefire until the captives are released and in fact, they were also calling on the international community to step in and help more to ensure that these captives can be freed now

1:35:37 Now, beyond that we're also hearing more about public opinion. What is this with the international community? I find that peculiar. This whole report, now this report we don't have any of this from Western media with the protests in Tel Aviv and then he brings in some polling that was done there Let me finish the clip! I want to hear the rest of the clip but I just had to stop it What is he talking about? Bids are released and infact they were also calling on the international community To step in and help more to ensure these captives can be freed beyond that. It sounds like a play this is some kind of you know some play like hey you know look at it's they're trying to do PR but they're talking to the wrong media outfits we're also hearing more about public opinion when it comes to different aspects of the war right now in Israel so we've heard from a polling institute called... We are polling the war now! ...and they released a survey that found among other things first

1:36:37 that around 57 percent of Israelis support a plan to exchange families held by Hamas with Palestinian children held in Israeli jails. Survey also... Wait! The Israelis have children in jails? It seems so, if you want to stop that clip and play this crazy screed of stats that this American-Palestinian woman had on again off Al Jazeera and I think the let me see if I can find that It's, uh... I got too many clips. Crazy screed of stats? This woman is being grilled one way that she's going back and forth with this interview and she just goes off on the interviewer on Al Jazeera and she has a screed

1:37:28 Just I got it here. I got it here, okay fine yeah play this Israel right now let's not forget there are 5500 Palestinians in Israeli jails with 1300 of whom an administrative detention held without charges without evidence without trial since 1967 Israel has imprisoned over a million Palestinians so when we talk about numbers and want to talk about civilians being captive or when we talk about civilians being killed okay There's over a million Palestinians who have been in Israeli military prison since 1967 and 80,000 Palestinians killed since 1967. So I mean yes we are opposed to civilians being used in any way and being killed but let's keep things in perspective here and let's look at the larger picture and who is really

1:38:18 putting the people, innocent civilians captive for decades including now we're seeing it in Gaza but they've done this collective punishment against Palestinian people in the West Bank and Gaza for decades including shutting off water and destroying water lines to Palestinian towns cities including building a apartheid wall, including implementing ways of cutting off cities from one another. Including imprisoning children in Israeli military prisons without their parents or legal representation. So I mean context is extremely important let's not forget who the king of propaganda is in this situation. Okay we appreciate your passion on this issue Zaina Aswari Hutchinson a Palestinian American rights activist thanks for your time

1:39:03 Well, well now. So they have kids I guess but what does that mean 17 year olds 16 year olds? I don't know. I mean she's 5 years old. She also could've just meant you know... behind the wall in Gaza. You can say, well you know lots of people say... I could see him coming up with that. You want to finish this? Yes, yeah i do want to finish it yes. With Palestinian children held in Israeli jails survey also found that around 57 percent of Israelis support a plan to create humanitarian corridors for children in Gaza managed by the UN and furthermore it found that 54% of Israelis say compliance with international humanitarian law isn't necessary

1:39:43 including precautions to minimize harm to children when at war with Hamas. Now, if I can just unpack that last detail... This is quite remarkable because this is saying that there's a majority of Israelis 54% according to this survey that are saying that compliance with international humanitarian law is not necessary including when it pertains to minimizing harm to children when it applies to war with Hamas I did get some feedback from one of our producers about the term unpack and its origin. And the thinking is that it comes from Peggy McIntosh, a 1989 essay about white privilege titled White Privilege Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack

1:40:34 That could be the origin of this unpack. Unpack, unpack! Well I want to point out something in that guy's going on and on with his numbers. El Jazeera has been doing a bunch of programming on the bloodthirsty... The last little thing he had if you can just play it a little bit at the end. He said 54%.. Oh I'll just say what it is. 54 percent of Israelis polled don't give a shit about war crimes. But what is this polling? Was that a call-out, did they have people on the street with clipboards? Internet poll... No there was some company mentioned you mentioned at the very beginning I understand there's a company... I don't know their details of polling but people just say polling It's sick! They're polling the war! but the thing is that Al Jazeera has been promoting the idea of Israelis as bloodthirsty demons

1:41:31 And I will... That's anti-semitic. And I have to go into, well it's Al Jazeera and they did their special report, I don't have any clips from it but is fascinating they clipped a bunch of the what I would call Israeli Hicks people living in you know out in the middle of nowhere someplace. In the hills You know, it's the same kind of thing that we do in our media. We try to get some guy who talks like this and he has a missing tooth in front and I'm sorry I'm talking so funny because I can't talk with my tooth mitten. No no no! This is the guy. This is the guy. So you get these guys... That guy. And they way they presented was very good as far as propaganda is concerned

1:42:17 They have these literally beautiful Israeli girls who are hicks. Oh, wow! Out in the... Let's shoot Amish? I think the only good Arab is a dead Arab. I don't care if we shoot every Arab but they come up to the house and we shoot them it's okay. She goes on and on like this then they bring out another beautiful girl And she's just bloodthirsty. So Al Jazeera is kind of doing this kind of thing and I'm watching this going, wow! This is really good stuff but let's... What kind of ghoul are you? Deconstructing here I think it fascinating

1:42:56 So here's this two more round, second round two. And this is really reflective of the mood right now in Israel because you have so much anger and shock still at what happened on October 7th when that Hamas attack occurred and there is so much anger driving all of this You have poll after poll in Israel In which people are saying predominantly that they want the Israeli government to go in and destroy Hamas Emily You know it's times like this when the media has just lost their marbles. And all they want, and all media around the world they just want blood they want explosions they want strife they want disagreement. It's money in a bank! They want you know is money in the bank and I think the Curry Dvorak Consulting Group can help people

1:43:51 while making bank ourselves by resurrecting our game show. Win, lose or drone! That's right everybody it's time to play another round of win-lose or drone who is gonna get it this time? Will the hot Israeli lady kill some Palestinian or the other way around find out tonight on... Win, Lose Or Drone! Just a thought yeah The problem with our game shows, all it has is the opening jingle. We don't have a game show! We do have... A real game show? We have a stinger. Win! Lose or Drone! That's all we have. We don't-we don't have a format or station to broadcast on but the idea is mint It is There was another guy that came on uh, a guy named Daniel Levy

1:44:44 I have a clip from him. He oh Yes, I played this Daniel Levy guy he was the wasn't he former Negotiator or ambassador? Yeah, one of these guys is in and around in and around for more yes former Israeli peace negotiator That's yeah And he was on with another one of these interview shows on Al Jazeera called bottom line and he came on it he was on forever yak, yak, yak in a way and he did and he's saying is this is gonna be bad news for him. This person has bad news for Netanyahu who had bad news for this and bad news for that but he came out with a little like again I'll use the word screed about this being bad news for the United States because Biden is a fuck-up and his whole situation

1:45:33 is not good. Isn't that our reputation? I thought that was always our reputation. We're a war-mongering nation That's what most people in the rest of the world look at us as... That's why we got to keep Trump out! Because he'll stop all the wars, that's no good Speaking of that, we got a note from one of our Jewish producers

1:46:24 And I say this because you know, I don't want to give her name away because a little personal note but she's had some issues in Temple with vaccine stuff back in the day and so she's written us quite openly. This is just a light-hearted note She says hope you well want to share story that happened this week when the Israel conflicts began I tuned into Ben Shapiro Of course, you know that's all the Jews immediately go to Ben Shapiro American Jews because I don't understand why. I figured he would have boots on the ground reports I'm not a regular listener of his anymore But this warranted some attention in the middle of one is one of his reports He began talking about President Trump now Shapiro has never been a Trump supporter but he admits he will vote for him if he's a nominee in The next election but he began to criticize Trump

1:47:09 for Trump's alleged castigation of Netanyahu when the attacks began. Shapiro was furious about how Trump could use the events to boost his own ego and agenda, I just listened didn't think much of it until I heard John's deconstruction of Brooks & Dunn on episode 1599. Shapiro had used the exact same decontextualized clip Trump that Brooks and Capehart had used. I was so flabbergasted the next day on the way to school, I forced my husband and children to listen to the whole segment—my kids listen anyway but the husband doesn't! At the end of the deconstruction, my husband turned to me and said, I think i'm ready to start listening to your No Agenda guys now." Another marriage saved!

1:47:59 Yes, yes So I didn't know that Shapiro used that same misguided clip to be chopped up a clip. That's that's that's Bad as bad it's really bad My last elegies zero thing I want to play is that they were going on and on about there was this long kind of a presentation and they had that little bit at the end where Biden is out on the lawn or someplace and someone says, what are you going to do? What's going on blah blah blah. And Biden says I'm talking to Israel just talk to him.

1:48:37 Well, they had an on the boots, boots on the ground guy at Al Jazeera who even though he didn't call Biden out in person. On the show, he calls Biden out as a liar! for talking, saying he's talking to Israel and he's not. And I just thought it was so funny to listen to this guy go on and on with all his details about how this is bullshit. This is Biden called out for BS! Let's go to Shehab Ratanzi who's in Washington DC for us. Shehab quite a brief statement what should we make of it? I think perhaps that he's learned the lesson from Friday night, when he was asked the question as to whether Israel should pause any ground invasion in order to allow more captives to be released. And he said yes! And I think it was almost within the hour that The White House put out an urgent statement saying oh no no President Biden didn't hear the question He just thought the journalist had asked whether he hoped that more hostages should be released

1:49:34 So now, this time at least he didn't make the same mistake. He simply said he was talking to Israel However we've looked at the poll reports and readouts from Saturday And he hasn't talked to the Israelis according to those on Saturday He did talk Prime Minister Netanyahu on Friday where the issue of captives was raised No conversations with Israelis as far as we can tell yet As far as any official announcements in White House On Saturday national security team about the latest on the Gaza war. Incidentally we did just also hear that Tony Blinken, the US Secretary of State talked to the Qatari Prime Minister and the foreign minister thanking them for their mediation efforts with the release of the two U.S captives but also discussing further efforts to secure the release of all the other captives. Okay lots of moving parts thanks for bringing us up-to-speed Shehab Rutanze in Washington DC

1:50:26 Go ahead. I just think this is a little bit, you know a little Kind of in the weeds a bit But at the same time at least he called Biden out for his BS or me doesn't okay? Whatever you say There's gambling going on Yes Our media is You know, it's compromised. I don't understand why people even watch it is because of the addiction we talked about at the top of the show. People need outrage! They need...I need to be triggered. Actually this was an interesting report

1:51:08 I hate to say it, but it was MSNBC and they have their own reasons behind it which I think I can deconstruct. It comes into the loneliness factor that we were talking about the other day all of a sudden loneliness is on the menu. Loneliness, loneliness what's going on with the loneliness? This is about Well, this is a doctor and she's got a book. We'll set her up here MSNBC. Now for the last two weeks or so painful and shocking images of war have been hard to avoid Images showing pain destruction and horror on television you can flip the channel Or turn it off altogether but on this on your phone The endless scrolling can really have an impact on your mind in your psychology if you are like me You have felt it

1:51:54 Let's bring in Dr. Sue Verma, she is a board certified psychiatrist and she is author of the forthcoming Practical Optimism The Art Science and Practice of Exceptional Wellbeing So this is for you parents, I know some of you parents out there and your kids see you. Your kids are not stupid they see you scrolling You give them scrollers They're probably... Kids are probably more proficient at looking at your browser history than you are Dr. Verma these are dark times I'm wondering what do think the biggest impact is seeing these images over and over again on all our minds Yes, so you know repeated exposure to graphic stressful violent images can produce anxiety depression and a feeling of helplessness. Not to mention anger frustration and just feeling like we're very conflicted and passive as a result that I feel like when i talk to my patients the helplessness feels so profound

1:52:49 And for different people, helplessness can manifest in different ways. Some people may tend to turn to substances that people are doom scrolling so they continue to look for violent images. Some people turn to cyberbullying because they feel so angry and they need the lash out on somebody and they don't know where did take it out? So these are very challenging times indeed for a lot of people even if we're so far away. Yes I think this is exactly the behavior I see exhibited on no agenda social that people just get mad at anything. I need to get mad, I need to get mad because i'm mad about something! What is going on? There's something...I just feel anxious, I'm mad, how does this work for children?" You know it is also just so casual at the moment. I was speaking earlier with a technology company that tracks the behavior of young people online and one they all do that dude they were showing me how quickly

1:53:39 A child can go from one innocent YouTube search for something entertaining to maybe something educational about Israel, to something absolutely unwatchable within a span of a few minutes. And then go back to business as usual I'm wondering what you think the impact is of this sort of casual exposure, especially on the developing brain. they don't necessarily even have the language to be able to express what they're going through. And at the same time, they're watching these images and they're thinking that this could be happening to me like they don't have the context of okay this is not exactly in my neighborhood but it feels so real um and this sort of 24 hour or 24 seven exposure it's not like we have to go out together coming to us as you said um and the other thing is that casual exposure also causes numbness and desensitization

1:54:39 It's a form of what we call cyber overload or digital overload when the brain is hit with so much information, even if the information isn't violent but just constant news coming to us. Our brain wants to shut down and it shuts down by saying you know what I don't really care there's nothing I can do about it and that's the last thing that they want. We wanna be able to have some sort of healthy balance between what I say my patients often say do I wanna happy or do I want to be informed because it seems like we can't be happy and informed at the same time unfortunately. Yeah, it's...I mean this is obviously taking place on MSNBC who themselves are huge violators of what you're showing on television. It was only a few years ago when Janet Jackson's nipple was the most shocking thing we saw! And now thanks everybody thanks for the telegram videos

1:55:34 I mean this it is not good. It is you can see you're the one wait a minute You're the one who wants to put on television Executions, okay hold on a second we'll get to my purse This is that's a different story That's a television format and and we don't even have a jingle for it like win-lose or drone? I'm saying that with social media and it doesn't matter if it's X or Facebook or Mastodon or Telegram. Telegram I think is actually the worst

1:56:12 Telegram is really, really toxic. I think TikTok's pretty bad at keeping you there. No, no, telegram is... it's all bad and look we're professionals we're older we've grown up with this We understand for some reason were able to look at it with some distance It doesn't affect me but I see my brothers and sisters of Noah Jendenation affected And they used to not be so affected by this stuff. Actually, your sisters literally... My sisters yes yeah all right

1:56:49 You have me confused with Andrew Horowitz. Okay, last clip I feel like she's the best Gordon in the contrast also between you know happiness and informed when it comes to it really being important to inform people with the most jarring Images right? I mean back when we first saw images of war during Vietnam for instance Right, it shaped our perception of that conflict It was utterly shocking to see those images but now with social media and with smartphones. It seems like something has changed, and I wonder what you think? Obviously there's this individual effect but what is the sort of social effect do you think are becoming desensitized as it seems we're being

1:57:25 Lack of empathy is what's happening, is that when we feel so passive helpless angry about things that you know whether they're close to home or far from home. We end up becoming more passive right and so sometimes we think that like putting comments online while they are very helpful and can be educating some people a lot of the comments unfortunately are negative or angry and hostile, and create more divide. So there is a very delicate balance and I feel like empathy is so important. And being able to talk to people from very different points of views...I'm seeing so much clash and divide within families, within friend circles, um, it's a very hard time right now to be able to get yourself informed because you're only hearing things from a certain perspective."

1:58:10 What you heard there was an anti-Trump screed. Of course there is! Anti empathy is a buzzword, a code word for Trump So here's what I'd like to suggest for no agendization...I call for a JCD Monday Be like JCD. Put your phone in a drawer and leave it there for all of Monday, and I command everyone to go to a no agenda meetup You can talk about whatever you want but you need to be in social contact with real people I'm saying we need to love each other, if only in our own community. This...I can see we're breaking people. Our people! And I don't care about anybody else. I don't care about anyone else's listeners We have producers and they're breaking Be like JCD. Be like Mike Campaign. Be like John. Be like JCD Put your phone in the drawer on Monday and go to a meetup Find a meetup this week or next weekend It's good for you

1:59:14 So I went to the meetup. Yes, tell us how was it? It was great! We had about 35 people the guy who organized it is Liz up in Roanert Park and he's a new organizer and he wants to do these meetings more often as a nice guy and the group was great good-looking group And there was a Scott Adams look-alike. There was this socialist kid who came up and said, hey I'm a socialist! Why are you guys ragging on socialists? I agree with most of what you say but ya hate socialists!" And so I tried to explain but he didn't listen...

1:59:53 But he donated, so that's good. But there you go! This is the point... When a socialist donates, you know you got something going on right Yeah but this is good So I'm glad that he came Good on him Yeah, I am too He was nice guy Because he felt safe That's why He felt safe in that environment This is very good Oh, yeah. It was a good the bar is nice has been redone since I was there last night on a hollow many years ago It's nice now it's a pretty boy drinking what were you drinking beer mostly beers a beer but it was a beer beer bar deal Okay, cool your bar they had a bunch of beer on tap including some really good pills nurse And any hotties yak? Yeah, so he's a hotty or two or three and he spooks oh

2:00:36 Maybe, maybe. It's not a complete meetup until you've spotted the feds. Well there may be I mean it is possible that one guy was because he had everything going on you know the kind of sketchy background they're kind of look this possible it was a spook hmm I got breaking news breaking news breaking news from our lawyer who has been following the Missouri versus Biden trial. Oh yes! And there is and he's been, I love this guy he's pro bono of course he's a producer and he just sending me updates it goes through all the documentation all the briefs that are being filed its reams of paperwork he loves doing it and I want to read his report Justice Alito

2:01:24 referred the government's motion for a stay to the full court. Now just to remind you, this is the state of Missouri suing the Biden administration I think it's the Biden administration not just Biden personally for threatening social media companies to take down content threatening them with, hey you know we got section 230. You're killing people with this misinformation and as we've learned that the courts are even saying this is the most egregious violation of the First Amendment rights ever in American history and the media really doesn't report on it much because why would they? They're in Biden's pocket and they hate social media companies

2:02:06 So, Alito has referred the government's motion to a stay of the full court. This is not unheard of but definitely not the norm. To make things even more unusual, The Supreme Court treated the motion for stay as a cert petition. This cuts out an entire step from the Supreme Court review process so at the bottom line, Supreme Court has accepted the case for review remember now this went from from the Missouri court, which I don't remember what circuit that is. It went to the Supreme Court instead of kicking it back now it goes to the Supreme Court for review He will determine whether the district court and by extension the Fifth Circuit there you go Got it right in condemning the feds laundering of censorship The media has no choice now but to report on this hopefully you are well equipped to get a jump on things Okay Well we'll see Yes

2:02:58 And he says, and he attached for my reading pleasure the Supreme Court's order which includes a dissent from Justices Alito Thomas and Gorsuch who wanted to deny this stay altogether. It's a very short five pages take a look and see the points in a nutshell Alito Thomas and Gorsuch are worried what will happen in the next election? That's really what this is about is what can be done from the White House during the next election Can they, you know, hey Trump's a criminal take it off or something like that. Those are conservative judges I know but i'm not sure exactly what to... I want clarification on this okay well point of order point of order

2:03:47 So I got some China news, China clips kind of. Kind of China? Kind of China? We haven't been talking about much but i think we should Yeah they're not in play right now but okay yeah I mean we have a ramped up Taiwan That's the time to start to look at it Okay good point Let's start with, well I got two series of clips. One is on illegal bio lab in California This story has been around for a while You know about it? Of course! Of course this happened months ago but now it's getting some attention Yeah and I think the guys disappeared too

2:04:23 An arrest over the illegal Chinese biolab in California. It contained bacterial viruses such as SARS, COVID and HIV now authorities say they've arrested a man NTD's David Lam speaks with an Epoch Times reporter who spent several weeks uncovering the web of connections tied to the Readly California lab Steve Esposito with The Epic Times thank you for joining me today what's the significance of this arrest? We realized that The people behind this company, they have a very complicated and complex background. And very troubling background

2:04:58 They have been involved with several companies in at least 10 countries that we have looked at, and they've all been in trouble with the law. The mastermind of this operation is someone by the name of Jesse Ju. He's the one who controls all these companies." So Jesse Ju, this a 62-year old man that is a Chinese citizen and formerly lived in Clovis so what are some of the charges he's facing? He's actually a Canadian citizen as well. So the charges for which he was arrested yesterday are manufacturing and distributing unbranded medical devices that are not registered with the FDA

2:05:38 and also for making false statements to the FDA, including his name. He uses a fake identity these are just still charges if convicted he could be in jail for acts up to eight years How did this illegal operation was running for so long before it came into the public's eye or the code enforcement officer? Well see what they do is they move from city to city They change company names and as we realized yesterday, they even changed identity names of the people. So Universal Meditech which was the main company that was involved with the bio lab has been going through Fresno, Tulare, Ridley back to Fresno back to Tulare back to Ridley Now it is my understanding that the illegal medical devices were in fact tests like COVID tests?

2:06:32 Yeah, they never mentioned the specifics here. They just keep going on it. What I thought was interesting about this is the description of the guy changing names and locations about 10 years ago we had a Chinese producer maybe 12 years ago We had a Chinese producer who I corresponded with quite a bit And he told me that this is the way you do business in China if your crew if you're criminal And these criminal groups would get together and they create companies that... These are the guys who produce aircraft parts. It's funny, this is how the Bidens operate too! Yeah, it's very funny. You produce aircraft parts illegal aircraft parts with phony certificates and you do business as long as your account and as soon as they get wind of what you're up to you close shop move change your name move to a different city and start doing the same thing and you do this over and over again you could do it for according to him this guy he says you could do this forever in

2:07:29 China as long because it's just the way it is goes on here now no doubt what we have no moral authority over any other country so this is the part to his character all of these people controlling these companies are also very closely related two companies in China that are related also to this Jesse Jew person But all of this was not regulated, was not approved by the FDA. Going back to the background of Canadian companies, Jesse Jew and his companies have been sued by Canadian entities

2:08:12 They've been sued several times, up to $330 million for damages done to those companies. Now he didn't pay a penny of that. He found ways around it and legal loopholes. Steve Esposito with The Epoch Times thank you so much for joining me Thank you for having me. Which brings us the second series eclipse which is this is not reported in this country as far as I can tell. I don't know anything about this. I heard on New Tang Dynasty This is the graphite story. You know about the graphite story? No, this is not graphene but graphite. Graphite! What is graphite? Graphite is a form of carbon one of the many forms of carbon diamonds one of them okay and it's used a lot in...it turns out who knew batteries in the semiconductor business and in batteries in particular ah okay

2:09:10 Okay, no wonder it's a China story. China is planning to restrict exports of a crucial mineral used to make EV batteries. Officials announced today that permits will be required for certain graphite products. We spoke to entity business host Don Ma for more. Don Ma thank you so much for joining us! Yeah thanks for having me today Before we get to the China part, give us a little bit of the background here. Sure! First of all, China is the world's top producer of graphite and according to the US Geological Survey, China accounts for two-thirds of the global supply. China also refines more than 90% of the world's graphite into material used virtually in all EV batteries so you know China is an important player here on this front

2:09:58 And the reason why graphite is important is because graphite is the largest EV battery component by weight and almost doubled the amount of lithium in an EV battery. But besides EVs, graphite is also commonly used in the semiconductor aerospace chemical and steel industries and top buyers of graphite are Japan, the US and a couple of other countries What doesn't China have that we need? How does you know China out has outmaneuvered us in everything. We're just sit around flat-footed

2:10:37 are scions of industry who make 20, 30, $40 million a year. CEOs don't do crap about it because they're incompetent and here we go again and this is all because Biden cut the supply of AI chips mostly from Nvidia to China says now you can't if you get these chips it's not going to be good for us so you can't have the chips And so China just says, OK you can't have the graphite. That's part two. And now why is China limiting exports of this crucial mineral? So according to the official statement it's for national security reasons. China's Commerce Ministry said the move was to ensure stability of the global supply chain and industrial chain and to better safeguard national security interests

2:11:23 It added that it was not targeting any specific country, but that's the official reason. But some analysts are questioning whether this is a tit-for-tat measure against the U.S., because Washington on Tuesday said it plans to halt shipments of more advanced artificial intelligence chips to China and three days later here we are at Beijing officials announcing these graphite curbs so the timing may be curious to some And the Dutch press was just reading yesterday. They're complaining about how ASML who do the lithography for chips? They write the Dutch government now has no say over What goes to China it's all Washington yeah, they've completely capitulated and but he did so that's all part of this tit-for-tat was so What does this mean ultimately no one gets chips and you keep your laptop oh

2:12:19 I mean it's gonna do well likely the machines are built to last I think there's a third clip. Yeah, there is and on that last part what will be the impact of these curbs? Right so under these new restrictions which will take effect in December China is going to require exporters to apply for permits to ship certain types of graphite and the curbs are actually similar to those placed on chip making metals gallium and germanium from a few months ago And from what we've seen with that those restrictions

2:12:56 They have effectively choked off exports of those metals and pushed up prices outside the country. But what analysts are also saying is that the impact could be that the average price of graphite will continue to rise in future, but this control is not a complete ban and there has been no significant impact on any industry during the previous temporary controls. This also raises the question of how dependent on China does the US want to be in the context of electrification It potentially highlights the need for the West to perhaps have independent supply chains and self-sufficiency in both raw materials and downstream components. Forget the chips for a minute, the chops forget the chops

2:13:47 Won't this tank, it just should tank the already stupid EV market. Can we just say that this is dumb? That this was a bad idea and everybody who bought into the electric vehicle is going to get screwed Your battery's 1 3rd of cost of the vehicle No one wants to buy your car second hand You might as well lease it so you're leasing the battery I mean, isn't this all just a dumb idea? Won't we just go back to explosive engines combustion engines. Well i hope so but you know they've promoted this very well and you got superstar promoters like Elon Musk doesn't help things doesn't help what should be logical. I see nothing but EV's on the lots everywhere

2:14:35 hundreds of EVs unsold. People don't want them anymore! Well actually even in China there's these photos that these people have taken with drones of these huge piles of unsold EVs that are backing up from these EV companies because China is making two or three... And these batteries they keep exploding everywhere it's annoying you can't put him in your garage Yeah, blow up the garage and warehouse. You're going to charge it? You gotta put a wire out to the car out into sitting in the driveway. Does that make sense when kids will come by, you know, and throw in a bucket or something I mean, no way until we haven't seen the vandalism yet before we take a break A follow-up on a clip that we played in March from two of my favorite radio guys

2:15:27 Weenie and the Butt from Russia. I forget their actual name... Yeah, those guys are the best! Vovan and Lexus. Vovan Lexus in the morning! And they hoax Fifi Lagarde, the director of the European Central Bank into admitting that a digital euro, a central bank digital currency was on the way. A reminder! I have a question about... And they pretended to be Zelensky and she was all like, Zelensky and she was primping her hair before the call like oh I can't I'm gonna be talking to Zelenski this is when he was still hot news. I am also good user of

2:16:06 electronic money. So my question, you're introducing the electronic euro as I know so how can switching to an electronic currency help? Two things. Number one, it will be decided in October so we are preparing the ground we want to be ready and trained but it will not be decided until October 23rd The reason I'm personally convinced that we have to move ahead is a situation like the one we are in now We are dependent on

2:16:48 supply of gas by a very unfriendly country. I don't want Europe to be dependent on an unfriendly country's currency, for instance the Chinese currency or the Russian currency... Or dependent on a friendly currency but which is activated Facebook or like Google or anybody like that. I'm a user of Bitcoin too. Okay, then he goes in all that so she said October 23rd we're laying the groundwork and then she went into such as

2:17:31 Like, oh you know it'll be limited. People can't... We won't track you unless you spend over 300 euros then all of a sudden the machines wake up and will track you and don't worry we won't sell your information What I like about Fifi is she doesn't mess around. They made the decision five days early on October 18th The digital euro is on the move Yesterday, the governing council of the ECB approved the opening of the preparation phase It will be a journey and we will walk the journey together with the legislator

2:18:11 All European institutions will be involved to make sure that Europe is equipped with the currency of the future. Cash is here to stay, you will have all options cash and digital cash. So what does it mean for you? For consumers it would be free and easy-to-use everywhere in the euro area All of that, of course is subject to the legislative process Cash or digital? The choice will be yours You euro your choice. Yeah your euro your choice But we want to make sure you choose the digital option and we are already going out and doing some weak-ass advertising

2:19:02 Imagine a digital single payment solution that could be used for any kind of payment throughout the euro area. Guess what? It could become reality! A Digital Euro Easy, safe, fast and reliable. Digital money from the European Central Bank at your fingertips whenever you need it But how would it work? Say you've gone for a meal with a friend and you want to split the bill. Simple! Open the digital euro wallet on your smartphone, check your balance enter the amount to pay your friend

2:19:42 Confirm your transfer. Your friend will receive the money instantly, free of charge! It doesn't matter which country you're in or who your payment provider is... ...payments are still made instantly even offline. It's also easy to use the digital euro at your favourite local shops. Unlock your device, place it on the terminal, authenticate and make a payment online or offline. If you want, you can also use a physical card What about e-commerce? The digital euro is also available when you're buying something online Be it digital or physical the Euro will always be a Euro and have the same value Irrespective of format. Let's embrace the digital era Digital euro That's right, and every digital euro comes with a digital ID

2:20:34 Let me get this straight here. So I'm at a restaurant now in the olden days, and you know when to split the bill with somebody we throw our cards down both of us yeah and the restaurant takes care of it they give us a couple separate bills as nobody gets that no way so simple stop couldn't be easier that's not true You always made me pay with a company card generally speaking He won't admit it you always made me pay Yeah, because you had the Mevio company card. That was dynamite wasn't it? So what's the point we're both at Mevio! Good times, good times Those days are over But the point is normally go out with somebody who wants to split the money and throw their cards down Now instead I've got a phone on me and I have to open up my phone

2:21:26 I gotta scroll through my apps and get this app up, and then I got to find it. And then I gotta just log in and then I gotta click on something. Then I've got to find the other guy's name and I've got to send him some money and he pays the bill." This is like ridiculously complicated compared to throwing a card down and letting the restaurant take care of that complexity. This will never work because you left your phone in the drawer! And that's how you get out of paying the bill. It's a bonus for you! Well, for me yeah... I'm not arguing about that part but just saying this whole thing is bogus it's not gonna work well i like that they are promoting that it'll do offline how does that work? How does it do offline payments with does it connect to the internet later

2:22:10 I mean, it has to obviously. That seems kind of odd No the whole thing it has to have a... It has to have something in that card chip. It has to be a card chip smart card that has information and the chip that kind of alludes to the fact that you have a bunch of money in your account Well The two things to look out for are one the digital ID that will come with this That's just a given and 2 the possibility of the European Central Bank, since it is a bank digital money from the central bank. It is classified as a CBDC and they will be able to inflate or deflate the money supply at will. They could take your money away! Yeah they could cut you off it's a beautiful thing yay Europe you're good to go your it's your euro your choice

2:23:01 And with that I'd like to thank you very much for your courage. In the morning to you, the man who put the C in be like JCD please say hello to my friend on the other end of the world Mr John C! Good morning to you Mr Ann Curry and good morning to our subsea boots and raffia in the air subs to the water day and night out there. In the morning to the trolls in the troll room Hello there trolls! Yeah stop being all tricky! I'm gonna count ya let me see what's going on with you. How are we doing? We got 2077...on The Troll Count 2077. Oh, I'm noting these now and we're 223 into it. Yeah slow Everything with you is just low that's low as very low average on Sundays 24 low T We got a low tea Low trolls low tea well anyway we love our trolls

2:23:53 Because they're here. This is the only place where it's healthy for you to binge and And to get all your triggering immediately just do it do it on do it only for three hours Twice a week, that's what we recommend and just stay off of everything else put your phone in the drawer be like JCD You can join the trolls at the troll room troll room dot io or use a modern podcast app. You'll want one eventually You can trust me on that. Do you know that Jon Stewart got cancelled by Apple? His podcast? No, he quit. Okay... There were creative differences over China and AI. Did we talk about this in the last show? No! We didn't talk about it. Maybe maybe talked about it on DH Unplugged

2:24:40 I haven't heard DH unplugged this week. Anyway, yeah you gotta cancel he's out get a modern podcast that podcast apps dot com Podverse now does Android auto and i think they're gonna do car play or something like that so these things are getting pretty good getting pretty modern doing things well no idea just came up at dinner that's what it was because another guy who quit this guy he had The team left, there's a new startup that's headed creatively by John Lasseter out of Disney. Who was cancelled from Disney for being too much of a hugger in Southern California. Oh my god! He's hugging these women constantly, so he had to go and he did a startup with these guys that Apple hired him on they all walked off in a huff and went to Netflix for more money

2:25:38 So apples can't keep it together. They're gonna either have to buy Disney I mean they did their creativity Can they even make chips without the graphite? Well, they're not making the chips or designing the chips Oh Okay, so do the foundries to get the graphite and I think Apple's heyday may be over what do you think? Well, the thing is a couple of things over since we're talking about it one JC has the latest version 3 they've up that newest of the new folding Samsung phones the phone. Yeah It's a killer

2:26:16 What is the benefit of a folding phone? Oh, it's just smaller when you fold it up. It hangs up when you fold it down and get to slamming down. Works like a champ! It has got terrific screen. It's just marvelous product I would say that. The second thing... And this taking share away from Apple. The second thing is the Huawei phone in China is killing Apple They're getting beat up badly on their phone and then they're not in fact we talked about this at the dinner table when we talked about Jon Stewart which was why didn't Apple, and if Steve Jobs was running the place still that folding phone that Samsung has would have been an Apple phone.

2:27:01 Yeah, I don't know. They still haven't got a touchscreen laptop for God's sake! I like the idea of rage quitting your phone like the old flip-phone days... Like screw ya! Click! You slap it closed. I kind of liked that idea. That's where you can do that with this phone? Yeah, yeah. I'm still using my light phone mainly. Yeah, that's fine. So I've just telling you what I observing from other, you know what's going on. I like this Samsung folding phone and but I don't have one I don't intend to get one. They're probably too expensive and... Oh man, Twit is really missing out on you they need you these are time because they're gonna be all goo-goo gaga over that thing and they need you they need you to go I don't want that phone! And the change the language to Korean Russian's even better my favorite trick my favorite John C DeVore it's a great trick for people who don't know the trick i'll tell you because anyone can do this to anybody ask to borrow someone's phone

2:27:58 Quickly go to the settings, go to languages and turn the language to Chinese. And then give them the phone back. Back to the home screen. And back to the home screen and you're good to go! Your friends for life! You did that to me once I was a bit disturbed by it because like I don't remember what phone that was but I remember you doing this and I was like yeah It's just a good gag its funny Dad made you very popular with the kids. It makes, unless you know how to get back to the settings and sometimes they have the icons will help you but with some phones especially earlier like 10 years ago

2:28:37 These phones were such that you didn't have, you couldn't figure out how to get the language back and you had to go basically your computer. Go online and look it up and it was very annoying I'm surprised they didn't get punched Have you never been punched for just being you? No. Amazing, amazing... I have a night- it's my attitude Has no one ever just come up and sucker punch ya' just for being you? You'd think Yeah you would Now i don't want to put in anyone's mind I'm on my guard for sucker punches

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2:32:22 Yeah. So throughout the years, people have supported the show in many ways time and talent is a big one you can organize a meetup and then you're really I mean you're doing it for no agenda nation no matter what but when you organize a meetup you're doing it for your brothers and sisters so you really need to if you can organize a meetup that's a great way to help there are so many different ways you can help getting other people to listen not helping is telling people not to donate that's That's not a helpful value for value. No, it's negative. It's negative values is envy for V now artwork we love because first of all it's an act of love because artists are putting their creativity out there ready to be criticized which is our way of loving you back. It is true normally do stuff on spec You don't hear anything from anybody they just ignore ya Don't even get a phone call back

2:33:17 And we love having a new piece of art for every single episode. It's great, it gets people's attention. It looks good when you post it. It looks great in the podcast apps and we do have rules and stuff that we need to adhere to like yes, be able to read it and we like stuff that pops but now we break those from time to time. Of course whenever there is a special episode like the last one Episode 1600 That's when you can pretty sure that were going go for something boasts about the fact that it's 1,600 episodes and Sir Shug aka Foe Diddley he did that and then some and brought us the infinity artwork of 16 years 1600 episodes you liked it right off the bat. You went straight for it and said I like this one yeah I like because I like to use infinite perspective

2:34:08 Vanishing point. I'm sorry is what I meant vanishing point? I think he used it well And we were talking about you know the vanishing point has something to do with some of the issues in The show is great great We looked at a couple other pieces my eye did keep coming back to Parker Pauly's Tramp stamp, but I don't know why this was well executed the sweet 16 And what else? By the way, you can follow us on NoahArtGenerator.com You can also upload anyone could participate in this you're more than welcome Also a lot of these show up in our chapters and those modern podcast apps I liked something that I liked it can't remember what it was. He didn't really like much No, no, I did. It did. I can't remember. There was a lot of art but it was uh, there were complaining about certain

2:35:03 I don't remember what it was for. Well, we first of all decided we're going to use 1600s somehow. Oh yes! I know what it was. It was Capitalist Agenda whose art...was really if you blow it up this is 16th down at the bottom of the page The 1600 is kind of peeling off this cube its flowing over it You really like that piece? Yeah thats a piece Id like to have on my wall I mean id frame that That would be beautiful. You'd like the dimensionality of it. Yeah thankyou But somehow it doesn't work I'm not sure why. It's something that just doesn't work in a small format, I guess. He did two of them. Yeah it has its moment. It has at his moment! However we do want to thank Faux Diddley for bringing us the artwork for episode number 1600 and the title of that one was Unpack it We Just Heard One Theory Where That Came From. We appreciate that very much and thank you to all the artists for what you do. It is highly appreciated

2:36:04 Oh, no there's Phoebe. Phoebe sees something or somebody Tina is still out she's still in Utah Yeah that way you go to overloaded the show with clips today But you're the one with the clips No, I know but i'm saying you had a presentation. You had deep dives you had follow-ups you looked into this group of screwballs and you had the information... This is what happens Are you complaining? no that was fine! I was just relaxing It was very entertaining. It was educational, it's edumacational I have a new schedule! I got up early this morning i'm getting up early again Oh good for you Yeah so I had more work and I did some... You're right I did do some of the work yesterday yeah you're right And the show gets better Yeah we were sitting there bored I guess so Let's thank let's thank The Treasure We have a lot of PhDs incoming today which is good to see We kick it off with Brandon Jansen Just says US

2:37:04 does not have a state in his, uh... So I don't know where he's from. But come- Yeah, uh, that dunno. Uh wait, here is the note. Hold on a second. He came in with a check and he came with a check for some amount and then four dollars and two dollar bills We have a two dollar bill thing going on it with this show And one of our executive or one of our producers dropped off $222.22 and all the dollars were in 110 $2 bills. Wow! Well, this is... So 1601, instant night for his conspiracy therapist Sir Parson of Florence sent us a card happy anniversary card no agenda show was truly the best podcast in universe sincerely future nights from Captain Planet This is hard to read you have the note there in front of you?

2:38:01 Because this is a handwritten note. I do have the note if you want me to try... So he read the card but then the note is, because he has... Oh Sir Conspiracy Therapist, Sir Parson of Florence Yes, I knew this was trouble when it came in Jay couldn't read it but its longhand and it's not unreadable but probably let me try to read I'd like to thousand of this to instant night my conspiracy therapist sir Parson of Florence who have it sir is probably at night already the remainder going towards my future and Nighting to be determined tried listening to no agenda after Adams first Rogan Rogan donation appearance

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2:39:31 I went back to January 2022 and proceeded to listen to all the years episodes in addition to brother Staying up-to-date with the current episodes this helped me snap out of it basically holy crap these guys are on just keep the scams he says to himself and He went on and on. He goes on I don't read the whole thing ignorance is bliss, but luckily I've come to be I've come to realize that it is better to know the truth than to be comforted with lies. The first step is admittedly, that I've been duped! I've been duped which is not easy but improving.

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2:41:33 I'll grab the next one then to make it easy. Kevin Popovich, a thousand! These are all PhDers In the morning, John and Adam. Thanks for the bi-weekly dose of deconstruction and sanity in a world of enlarged amygdalas and experts who base their professional opinions on what many believe and what is most likely true It's always it's always a relief to watch fellow critical thinkers and deconstructionists straddle dimensions to reach the point where all ward or world lines meet with enough fortitude will and reflexes we can reach the true end With this donation I reach knighthood! I'd like to be knighted Sir Kevin Knight of the Reading Clover. Reading or Redding? What do you think, Reading Clover or the Redding Clover... It's gotta be Redding. Must be Redding. I'd like to request homemade Thai pepper infused vodka and katsu curry to be added to the round table if there is any in stock. That's why we have it in stock

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2:44:37 Three-bagger. Knight name Sir Airock Rock, A R O C rock. Defender of the Isle Redoubt of the Brigantine home of Peppercove Beach Food at The Round Table, Tom Lau and Mekong Whiskey. Way too low! Yes, very funny. Bang ding ow! Okay... Dark Lady Dazur...Dazur? Dazur? D-A-Z-H-U-R 1000 I'd like to be Dark Lady Dazar Demon Dragon of the Undercity thank you You got it done consider it done Brandon Jorgensen another thousand dollar winner First time we're here love you guys and everything you do Oh thank you very nice

2:45:35 Aaron Larrin not a hern iron are in Laura not what they heard a hern sounds weird do we had a kid in school his name is a hern a hern really this did a her get beat up a lot it seems like there's a her and would thousand dollars no note you have a note from a her I don't know how to go down here you come with your double-up car you've got Karma. 684 she was a lucky winner. Oh, she and she needed a deed douching we got You've been de-douche And Then we have sir Chris and Dame Kristen from Walnut Creek California switcheroo Please credit this executive producership to my best friend since grade school sir William messing

2:46:43 Bainbridge Island. Bill is celebrating a double nickel birthday today October 22nd I could not think of a better present than an executive producer credit on the best podcast in the universe happy birthday bill please throw him a goat karma for good health and happiness congrats on 16 years of media deconstruction all the best to you and the Noah Jenner family sir Chris and Dame Kristen of Carmel by the Sea Harmless. Switcheroo is in, it's in, it's in... Andrew Cutleck 333 dot 33 Self-proclaimed longest time D-bag So I don't know if you'd I guess he doesn't want to de-douching Yeah well so yes or no? I would say no because he wants to be a self proclaimed longtime douche bag Okay No it isn't That's it that's his whole note

2:47:39 As far as I know, yeah. Wait didn't he? Didn't... okay Unless you can find one. No, I don't have anything Russell Davidson 333 dot 23 Fort Collins Colorado I haven't donated in a few years since I gave up sending checks after second check was apparently lost in transit to El Cerrito I don't like giving PayPal any money But I know Zelle doesn't work from my bank to yours And they also haven't made the effort to set up a pop money account yet either given my lapse and donations please deduce me You've been D douched And give me a yak karma for an upcoming elk hunt. Thank you for your courage, Russell Davidson! Yak Karma for You! You've got... karma. Okay uh... This is the other note I think. Okay we're at Zach Williams. Can you find this note? Well isn't that on the notes that we got here? Yeah it's just... I believe i have it here hold on second

2:48:38 Yes, Zach Williams. John! John! But I'll read it 333 We hope you enjoy this gift with family and friends You've been encouraging part of my Thursdays and Sundays My kids shout John Sainov Dvorak every time they hear your voice whether you know it or not Give him another hey kids Hey Kids Whether you know it or not, you're making an impact on generations. Very sincerely thank you for your courage blessing from Zach Williams from the Little Truth Company littletruth.org in fine and close You'll find first edition number 30 of production to hardcovers two coloring books Wow

2:49:21 Okay, yeah little truth or go check it out and he says he says If you go to little truth org discount code ITM 10 for no agenda nation ten percent gift discount on my first children's book the great unknown There you go. And he wants we're all gonna die and a little girl yay second where's my Where is the little I put the little girl in the in the closet? You might die Okay, and that was... Was that Zach? That's uh yeah. Zach but for Chris it's a switcheroo. Okay so we have Sir Rieschmeister in Los Altos another attendee at the meetup I'm in need of a severe de-douching You've been de-douched He came with 300 Hey John what would happen if I give carnivorous plants some ammonium nitrate

2:50:24 I don't know. I don't know either what will be honest about it They probably won't like it nothing good. I was you have to feed him with a spoon That's the problem I want to give a shout out to my favorite podcast app RSS radio by Dorada software not part of the podcasting 2.0 ecosystem But hoping it will be it was one of the first apps to offer silent skip and provide an equalizer What's really cool is you can group your podcasts into different categories that you create That sounds familiar. And if you like the episode's artwork, the app shows you the URL of the image for downloading! The app can also display chapters and live stream if you have a link. I got my PMP certification so i'm gonna get a Jobs Karma, I need one thanks sincerely sir Rieschmeister Yeah and ask the developer to check out podcasting 2.0 functionality! Jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs! You've got karma

2:51:21 Francisco Ramos is in Temecula? Temecula. That's what I thought, Temecula California 234.56 love that number good morning John and Adam I've been listening to the podcast since Adams appearance on Joe Rogan back in September 2020 Rogan donation...I was tired of being a douche And I, it happens. I decided to contribute some of my treasure to the best podcast in the universe thank you both for all you do please give me an American made deduce none of that China made junk. You've been de-douche'd! and i would also like a china is a ho oh okay another you might die how often does that happen?

2:52:03 Another you might die and a noodle gun jingle. Well, we got all of that for you respectfully Francisco Ramos from Temecula California You might die and the I'm gonna shoot ya in the face with my noodle gun you racist piece o' shit I got my pasta glock locked and loaded Now you have Sir Glecamo in Crockett, California 23456 and there's no note from him that I can find so let's give him a double up karma.

2:52:40 You've got Karma I want to get this next one. This is sir Montague who was at the meetup, and he's the one who dropped off a hundred and eleven dollar bills $2 bills I like it. I like in a diamond two penny a table of dimes and two pennies and It's a row of ducks He once held karma for his mom's broken leg But I should mention he's also the guy as far as I know that Who did a whole slew of no agenda stickers which we gave out to everybody that we could and there are dynamite They're mostly little covers that are about one inch by one inch low the show album art And some other stuff, and they're just really it is nice. They're not it was a nice gesture alright sir Montag Thanks for going to the meetup We appreciate you you've got karma

2:53:32 Sir Don Francis Chandler Arizona 222.16 in the morning Adam and John this donation is an honor of my smoking hot wife Dame Stephanie and the Explorer Chicks gang currently wreaking havoc across the state of Utah. Fellow traveler yes dude you missed a special meetup It may be added to the bail fund started by Sir Mike in the last episode at your discretion. I too must admit to feeling somewhat gel, Adam. Congratulations on 1600 plus shows and 16 years from Sir Don Francis." Thank you very much, Sir Don. I feel like you're my brother now. We are brothers! Brothers in this mess! Kiwi Rick in Ball in Western Australia

2:54:21 And he is, this has to be bumped up because it actually amounts to $345.67 in Australian dollars even though it's 208 dollars and 82 cents what's wrong with Australia? Yeah a lot Congratulations on your anniversary from Perth! He's in Perth Please de-douche me You've been de-douched Add me to the birthday list I'm 48 on October 22nd. You might want to check because this is a lot of stuff for Jay to do, and she may have missed this one. The donation also brings up my knighthood please dub me Sir Richard of the lands down under and I would humbly request bangers in mash along with the usual accoutrements of the roundtable May i have a 33 as the magic number jingle? And a result that might now form a new socialist slash Marxist boss who unceremoniously moved me on

2:55:17 Can I also have a best, uh the best jobs Carmen Love has lit? Kiwi Rick. Yes and this is no problem for Jay she's on it she got him on both lists. It's the magic number. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs! Let's vote for jobs! You thought karma... Well I'd love to take the last one but it's kind of your gig. Linda Lou Patkin in Lakewood Colorado with Jobs Karma For a resume that gets results go to imagemakersinc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs That's Ingers-makers- yeah! I almost made it Hold on hold on hold on

2:56:01 John, we're gonna have to do that one over again for this special spot. Yeah he's trying to break the record for time. Alright go folks! Jobs Karma for a resume that gets results go to imagemakersinc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs that's imagemakersinc with a K dot com Or just find Linda Loupaddy. You can find her, she's under the show's producer list. Jobs! Jobs! Jobs and jobs! Let's vote for jobs! And the showdown continues. It sure does. Thank you all to these executive and associate executive producers and PhDers we have a special ceremony for you now to hand out your your PhDs although I'm looking for a bit of help with the imaging if anyone feels that they could up to that

2:56:47 These are credits that are real, recognized across the entertainment industry. You can proudly display them on your LinkedIn, on your resume or go ahead if you don't have an IMDB account because you're already in the entertainment industry many bigwigs who produce this show are...You can now become one! imdb.com All of that is completely legal correct and good And a reminder that we only guaranteed read the notes for execs and associate executive producers. Sometimes we'll stop and grab one on the way down, and John is going to take us through the 50's right now! Exactly Let's start with... who was at the top of the list? Duron Vargo in Hoffman Hills Illinois 160 Dame Shopska Salad there you go in Chesham UK

2:57:38 I'm looking for some de-douchings here. Counter San Francisco was at the meetup, 160 bucks. Dan Malley in Fremont California 113 Matt Grisham in Zephyr Hills Florida 105 This is our Star Hill hemp they got 11% from every sale using the 22% discount code DUCKETT22 at starhillhemp so there you go Ian. I almost did it. We know that. Ian Beveridge, or Beaveridge, I'm sorry. It's Beveridge in Long Branch New Jersey 101-33. Another Ian.

2:58:24 Fields $100 Patricia s Lewis and Merced, California 100 that she's got a birthday call it in the biscuit for her birthday. I always give me a biscuit on my birth That's for his birth For Parker Mitchell's birthday from his Mimi from his Mimi His Mimi is me Baron Amanda Leigh was at the meetup $100 sir lavish was at the meet up And I promised him when I would start chatting with him that I would say the following Behind the schemes live Monday night on the no agenda stream 730 PST Second there's a second part to that. Oh, I don't think he was the second part red does he? Okay Let me start over behind the schemes live Monday night on no agenda stream at 7 30 p.m Join lavish for the BTS spooky hour Monday October 23rd good work

2:59:20 Brian Lillard in Prosper, Texas 8888 Kevin McLaughlin comes in 8008 breast cancer awareness month feel for lumps save your bumps Okay Mara Rara in Vancouver Washington 8008 John Siebert in Auburn California He came down from Auburn to go to the meetup How nice he came in with 8008 very cool Kyle putt pussy act pussy act pussy act posse act in Hannibal, Missouri It's a barn hard door is 805

2:59:59 And it's a Barnhart donation and needs a de-douching. You got your Barnhardt guy? Yeah, I got a Barnhart guy. You've been de-douched! Barnhardt Donation Oh please... Brian Bellin in Ashbury New Jersey 80 He does have a comment that i want to say Best show! Dakota Cole in Sherwood Oregon 80 Having issues with the notes from this person. David Jarman in North Tora Mura in New South Wales, Australia 7990 hooray Adam said it correctly Sir Rick and Arlington Washington 6996 day Kevin McLaughlin's back with 6006 breast cancer awareness month save the blouse bunnies

3:00:48 Save the blouse bunnies. Eric Hulse in Richmond, Texas 55-55 Nicholas Oman in Thief River Falls Minnesota 55-55 Baron Henry and Rancho Palos Verdes 52 42 Forrest Martin 50.05, Andrew Benz in Imperial Missouri 50.05, Matt Illingworth in Montclair New Jersey 50 and these are all fifties now we're gonna wrap this up pretty quickly slightly top-heavy today Matt Illings worth in Ehrling Worth in Montclair New Jersey Robert case in Mill Spring North Carolina Michael Manziela in hopping Hopkin ton Massachusetts

3:01:35 Mathias Milchinski in Hawthorne, California. Daniel LaBoie in Bath Michigan Julian Robbins and Aptos Nicholas Root of which in Harpers Ferry West Virginia Michael Benevente in Yonkers New York needs a de-douching You've been de-douched Robert Hannah in Poway California Michael Sykora in New Richmond Wisconsin Tatiana Prince in Hollywood, Florida. Sir Patrick in Maycombe in New York City. Leanne Shipley in Covington Washington and last but not least Michael Statham Parts Unknown these are all the people that made show

3:02:21 1601 a reality. Thank you all! Yes, we thank you all very much also everyone under $50 We don't mention you for absolute anonymity and you may be on one of the many sustaining donations There's a lot of them You can find that our new donation website which is noagendadonations.com or of course the old trusty one vorac.org slash n-a It's your birthday, birthday. On Noah's channel And we just have a short list on the birthdays. Baronet Nathan Lee Miller-Foster wishes Mike Riley a happy birthday and apparently it is his birthday today one of our favorite No Agenda artists Sir Chris and Dame Kristen wish Sir William Messing a happy birthday for today and Kiwi Rick turns 48

3:03:07 Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe! And now I would like to welcome our new PhDs to the podium. We do this in one big ceremony And we hand them out right away so you can flip that tassel to the other side. Welcome new Doctors of Deconstruction! Brandon Janssen, Keith Gibson Kevin Popovich Derek J. Visker Derrick Boggs Eric Pepper Dark Lady Tazur Brandon Jorgensen and Aham Lorinat You are now official PhD graduates... ...Doctors in Deconstruction

3:03:50 Okay, so this is where I need some ending or something. Well you know we didn't do the last group with the ceremony No, I didn't have the ceremony ready Oh okay when's the last group gonna get their little presentation? On the next show Because it wasn't prepared for it That's fine because... You don't want to overlook them We forgot to have a meeting We didn't forget We just didn't have the meeting Uhh..we have a make good correction Who is this from? If you would make a quick correction if possible during John's reading of my note with 25% or 33% off kitchen and bathroom cabinets, he said if you live in Pennsylvania please correct this to the lower 47 states. I thought there was 49 lower states... Anyway, this is not available- 48. Oh it's not available in commie-phornia

3:04:49 Due to into detached implication so it's 47 I should really Oh 47 because the California. Okay me for why? Cuz you're commies that's why we have one day and we have a couple of nights So let us bring out the blade or on any blades hello good got your blade you got your hold on wait there You go Also, Brandon's conspiracy therapist Kevin Popovich, Derek Boggs, Eric Pepper and Kiwi Rick. All of you about... no not about! You are now Dame and Knights of the Noah General Roundtable I hereby pronounce the KT as Dame Dark Lady Dazur Demon Draggy

3:05:28 demon dragon of the under city sir Parson of Florence or Kevin Knight of the Reading Clover Sir Derek protector of section 707 sir Eric rock defender of the aisle readout of Brigantine home of pepper co beach and sir Richard at the lands down under for you hookers and blow rent boys in Chardonnay Thai pepper infused vodka with cats and curry some Tom Lau and make on whiskey bangers and mashin, of course because We've got some mutton and meat here for you. But you know that, you've got all your goodies here while you head over to noagenderrings.com This is also where you can head over if you have a PhD and you will find ways to get that into your possession for the knight and dame today You have the handsome Knight & Dame ring which comes with wax to seal your official correspondence with And of course all these have a certificate of authenticity Thank you very much for supporting Your NO Agenda Show

3:06:22 Alright, we got two meetup reports. No actually we have one meetup report... What do we have now? This is odd Something's going wrong with the meet up reports Let me see I think this for oh that I'm getting an error on that one let me see if i can play it like this and See if this works hold a second no That was Dempsey's Food and Spirits. Well, for some reason that one failed sorry about it so you have to resend that to me here is the October North Georgia Meetup Report In the morning Adam & John Sir Bob here bringing your meet up report from the North Georgia Monthly Meet Up Here is another successful meet-up we had three new slaves show up and possibly a KGB spook I'll pass around see what everybody has to say thank you for your courage and happy anniversary guys

3:07:12 Hey, NA! Dr. Sir! Mike Roch! Got questions for John about this PhD program. Do those count as continuing education credits? an honorary degree and I need to also find out about some student loan possibilities. Adios, mofos! Adam, John thank you for what you do thanks for putting it out all the time i love you guys i listen a lot Keep safe, stay safe. Adam John this is Sam yeah we've talked in the morning thank you so much for what you do and I love you guys keep at it Sean here thanks for decolonizing my amygdala

3:08:00 In the morning, Ben here. Go to a meetup! Jay here in Alpharetta where today we learned if you're going to walk into the bar in a tinfoil hat so that your fellow douchebags recognize you make sure you're at the right bar Hello everyone, Naira is here I'm that one person who joined after Adam's second appearance as Megyn Kelly In the morning everyone, happy anniversary! I love that. Great report. Messy but you know what? You know what these people were not upset triggered they're not all like the gags the gags were funny there they sounded a little bit inebriated that had a nice connection They're from all over the map all over the world All kinds of different backgrounds That's what No Agenda meetups are about and you deserve it

3:08:52 you deserve to go to a meetup. If you want to go on today and your in Michigan, You can still make the Michigan Local 1 Douchebag Pat's birthday party at Red Dog Saloon in Milford or on Thursday the Mile High Meet Up that'll be Lincoln Roadhouse in Denver Colorado Here is what coming up In the next couple of days we got Toronto Victoria BC We've got Epping New Hampshire Virginia, Star Idaho, Pennsylvania California Switzerland Zurich on the 28th. We got Ireland on the 29th very nice good to see you there we got

3:09:29 Albuquerque, New Mexico again on the 12th. Fredericksburg Virginia not Texas on the 12th as well Bergendal on the 12th of November in The Netherlands we have... let me see what else do we have Alabama Huntsville on the 18th Tilburg The Netherlands on the 30th Indianapolis on the 4th December that's right! The Keeper and I will be attending looking forward to that one as well No agenda meetups they give you connection and that always leads to protection If you can't find one near you, start one yourself. They're easy. NoagendaMeetups.com! Alright, you go first

3:10:25 You're oh you're right. I only have two okay, I have a couple and I made him kind of you know Lame no I made one of them just did the generic I would say they're evergreen Oh Okay Evergreens yes now one of them might not be good for this show let's start with that one despicable It's just pickable and corrupt Then the other one is that is the evergreen if you can't come with anything good This has to go in thank you so much for joining us today Wow, you gotta make that... You gotta monowise that. I came through on left channel Thank you so much for joining us today It's a little out of balance sorry What? Cancels for technical reasons Oh i think this bull Well but have-I have a couple to select from and I think I have winners here The algorithms are running everything it turns out Little long But what do ya know? Oh my god

3:11:25 That was really stressful. It's too long, I think this is the one. Podcast cancelled! Didn't you run this one last time? Podcast cancelled? No i didn't run that one. Okay, I will go with pod...I like it. Actually like all four of yours. Well we'll do podcast cancelled okay. I have an Africa clip for the end of show but I am overriding the Africa, the One Africa Clip end of show For I have this before you do Africa in the show. I got two clips about Biden and the smoking gun Oh brother, really? You're gonna bring the whole show down No, it's not that bad Okay All right looking for something. Okay, I could do a Ukrainian update no Bummer look it's three hours and 12 minutes. You're trying to elongate the show I can put this off I think you should put that off because I have an entertainment clip

3:12:23 Okay, we'll go with you. We'l do what you say. You have the controls I have the con George Clooney! Let's talk about George Clooney He wants to see actors back at work So he is putting his money where his mouth is The Oscar winner and other top Hollywood stars are offering a proposal worth 150 million dollars To encourage SAG-ASTRA to end this strike that just started in July Clooney's spokesperson confirms the offer. It would remove the cap on dues from the union's highest earners, raising an extra 150 million over the next three years for member benefits. SAG-AFTRA president Fran Drescherdow went on Instagram she thanked George Clooney for the quote extremely generous offer but she also elaborated it does not impact the contract

3:13:05 that the actors actually want. She said that under the law, contributions for pension and health funds of a federally regulated labor union must come from employers. It can't come from the people who are members of that union. It has to come from the employers So talks between striking actors and major studios, they broke down last week. The actor strike will mark its 100th day tomorrow. So Fran, she's the president of course, right? She acknowledges that it is a generous offer but because there are things that the actors are looking for that have to do with AI, that have to do with streaming and residuals, the 150 million, cash doesn't address those concerns. The other issue is- But George Clooney's saying, I'm just trying to help. Yeah and I think that they welcome that help It is tough though to hear coming up with 150 million down there going thanks but no thanks Thanks for yeah, so safe of it. But I understand the point she's making as well that you have other issues that need to be addressed can't they do both? Right because its like okay get the money and I'm sure studios would be happy to say yeah just take the money and let's not talk about

3:14:05 the things that are really on the table, that have to do with the future. It removes the studio from their responsibility. Why can't you do both? Hopefully they can! We'll see we're looking forward to it for now. For now we'll just say thank you George. Yes thanks George put that check back in your pocket though. You know he's back on the scene! He's coming back... he's making a comeback What are you drinking at the end of the show? Well, I got this from the meetup. Lagunitas Hoppy Refresher. Ooh! I had to up my game now that somebody made a mockery of my commentary in one of these... This is a beer?! ...in the show mixes. This is a beer? No it's a hoppy refresher. It's water that's hop flavored Oh, it's a hoppy refresher! Yeah Show title

3:15:05 Happy refresher. We have end of show mixes from Steve Jones, Dr I and Jesse Coy Nelson And thank you to our end of show mixers as always we love you! Coming up next on NOA Agenda Stream before the schemes V4V Boostable Music Show with Boo Bury & Lavish Could it get any better than that? I don't think so. No, I hope you enjoyed your media deconstruction for today we look forward to meeting you here again on Thursday remember Monday is JCD phone free Monday And go to a meetup, will ya? Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region No. 6 In The Morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where believe it or not it's raining! I'm John C. Dvorak We return on Thursday right here on NO Agenda Remember us at dvorak dot org slash NA noagendadonations dot com Till next time Adios mofos hooey hooey and such Voices

3:16:03 Voices, voices pounding, pounding, pounding. Self in the face with fist, fist, fist and you can't stop yourself and you're starting to hear voice, voices, voices, voices becomes, becomes... Seems like there's something going on One night he tried to knock himself out. Pounding yourself in the face with your own fist

3:16:41 Fist, fist, fist. Took his knuckles to his face and pounded over and over again. It seems like there's something going on... Little by little you're just letting yourself become... Tyler Durden Somehow I don't think it's 45,000. Maybe 4500? I said 45,000 but it says 45,000 on his note. Oh does it... No it doesn't say 4500. What did I say? 45,000. You think its 45,000? No that what you said! That's what I said I misread it. Okay got it. Generals gathered in their masses

3:17:36 This is a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries in five years. When I first came to office, one of the first meetings I had was at the Pentagon with generals. Bolden has always said let's go to war but he is not the one who is going to go on the forefront. He is a coward! The leaders of Iran are racketeers Behind every problem is Iran They heard what you said in 2016 and liked it when you said no more stupid wars

3:18:23 You've got a rogue president in the White House surrounded by these uber-hawks that thirst for another war with Iran. The International Atomic Energy Agency has never found Iran in contravention of stipulations in the deal If Iran wants to fight, that will be the official end of Iran. Never threaten the United States again! I'm not somebody who wants to go into war In the United States heading towards another Middle East showdown this time with Iran. That's a bitch so you can go die!

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