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00:00 Boots on the ground, baby! And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're all congratulating Adam on his six Tony nominations. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! What is this? What Tony nomination? That's not you?! No, what are you talking about? Oh ever since you retired the Mo Facts show that the Broadway play Ain't no Mo.

00:43 has gotten six Tony nominations. The show is not retired yet, we have nine more episodes. Oh ain't no mo' with something else! I knew you didn't know this guy Jordan E Cooper it seemed unlikely You actually know what the Tony nominations are? The Chonies. The Chonies. The Chonies. The Chonies. I do. Is any spectacular nominations except the Ain't No Mo', anything else? The Ain't No Mo' 6. The big one I guess is something like It Hot's gonna be to take away a lot of awards Have you seen any of these, any of them? No! I haven't been in New York last season so i didn't see any of them

01:24 Who wants to go to New York? Why, not me. No. They're standing in the subway tracks! Tina's going to New York...um.. To visit with her daughter for Mothers Day Oh that should be rich What is that supposed to mean? I don't even want to know. But, to be honest she's a little anxious about it. Why? Well as an adult she lives most of her life in Chicago because what do you see about New York nothing but exactly what you said crap! It's true. People... But Chicago? I mean come on join the two cities sister cities yeah

02:07 Yeah, no there's not it's not like a problem. It's you know I just go there and you just put up with it. I know I think like the old days We got nights everywhere looking out for Migs all these all the other gangsters of New York are looking out for which is while Dominican gangsters everybody No, Jen no agenda nation is badass Got great people. I had a wedding yesterday so unfortunately I couldn't see we get married again. You know oh Now a friend of ours daughter got married. So unfortunately I couldn't watch all of the fabulous proceedings of the coronation

02:46 Which I know is a lifetime event. There was nothing to record, but as I do have some comments Oh, I have some clips actually Okay We use our clips all my comment is basically they had all these marching soldiers and the guys with their red costumes and the big hairy hats and Regular soldier that they were out of step and out of line I saw some of that. It was unbelievably bad, like I flipped over from China TV where they're just lockstep perfect to these guys wandering around it was just pathetic! I don't know if it was that bad...I did notice a couple of guys out of step. It's pretty bad. I have a highlight supercut God of compassion and mercy

03:35 whose son was sent not to be served but to serve. God save the King! I, William Prince of Wales pledge my loyalty to you and faith and truth i will bear unto you as your liege man of life and limb so help me god Receive this ring, a symbol of royal dignity and the sign of the covenant sworn this day. Grant that I may be a blessing to all thy children Of every faith and belief That together we may discover the ways of gentleness And be led into paths of peace

04:44 You know, so people kept sending me this one particular clip and I don't know if it's fake or we're just hearing it wrong. Listen to this... This is when they were walking in the Westminster Abbey into the church. Listen to this! Now what do you hear them singing? I can't understand a word of it. Well, and... I mean it seems- It must be- They're singing, I like vagina Camilla That can't be right! But if you- You think it can't be right?! But now that you've heard it, you can't unhear it That's the point

05:45 Okay, play it again. All right hold on I'm playing directly from a YouTube because I forgot to clip and just remembered it I like the preamble is great though Dynamite band here we go Someone's got to set us straight on what they're really saying. Sounds like silence Regina I don't hear the V Well when the words are on the screen your brain goes oh yeah Oh yeah, if the words are on the screen Is bias Regina? No, I do not know

06:25 I'd like to know, it's...I'm sure it's Latin or something that we have just our ears aren't attuned to. It's cute though. Yeah. Cute catch So you know of course the M5M was out in droves they loved it ABC Free trip Well I don't know if all of them were actually out there at all You have to turn your speakers down just a little because people are complaining about it now Hey people stop complaining The coronation concert takes place in Windsor. It's gonna be right outside the castle There's gonna be a Union Jack shaped stage and some big stars performing No doubt about it Lionel Richie will be dancing this weekend Richie longtime friend of King Charles and chairman for the global Lionel Richie anybody can get him for your birthday

07:14 Yeah, I think it charges 200 grand. But you know there's lots of people get Lionel Richie for the... I can't get him! I can't afford that! No and i know but it's not like oh this is so special Lionel Richie is performing at the at the coronation. Oh he never performs no he's everywhere every weekend the guy just rakes it in He does an hour, like 45 minutes. You know he just dancing on the ceiling and then hello! And then you know it's good to go and that is dancing on a ceiling again? And everyone was dancing in the aisles it was beautiful. And chairman for the global... You milked it Yes well good on him. Ambassadors of The Prince's Trust is set to perform center stage on Do you remember when Lionel Richie was cheating on his wife and she found out she walked in on him and then she beat him naked all the way down the street

07:59 Remember that story? I forgot about that, you're right. Just wanted to give everyone that visual for a moment. This is history we've known each other for a very long time. Richie's also part of the exclusive guest list to The Coronation at Westminster Abbey. I plan on showing off i'm just gonna walk down and every once in a while they'll tell me Mr Richard just get out of the aisle. The king has come. Get out of the aisle! I mean this is just a moment The Palace have announced a few later additions... Get out! Get out of the aisle, Richie. Tom Cruise, Nicole Scherzing Oh, oh, TOM CRUISE! Oh, Tom Cruise? A few later additions with Tom Cruise... Hold on a second

08:37 Tom Cruise and his busy schedule, he can go. How come Joe Biden can't go? I have an answer for that! Later additions with Tom Cruise, Nicole Scherzinger... We've got Winnie the Pooh joining for his own skit. What?! China! Xi Jinping!? We've got Winnie the Pooh joining for his own skit It's almost reminiscent of some of those magic moments we saw during the Platinum Jubilee Magic! And I think Charles is hoping that it'll bring some magic to this moment too He's a dead man walking. I give him two years, this was just a dress rehearsal for William and Kate You know? I have the same sense of this Yeah It feels like... This is just a preamble to The Real Great Reset And i don't want to be morbid about it but I can't help but think that! They just gave it to him because he waited so long and we needed to practice cause when Will & Kate take the throne its not gonna be Not My King

09:36 People will love that. We'll have a new, you know, a new Lady Di era in a way Anyway why did Joe Biden our president not Jill Biden was there she showed up but what that means the president was there Questions about why President Biden is not in attendance himself. He was asked overnight by our Stephanie Rule, here's what he had to say. You did not go to England this weekend for the coronation? No I didn't but i did speak to the king we're going to be going to a NATO conference in Europe and I told him I'd stop either on the way there or on the way back. Now stop in! How rude is that?!

10:19 Hey man, I can't come to your party of the century. And by the way...I heard Lionel Richie's performing but uh.. But I had him at my birthday party so I don't care Yeah yeah, he'll stop by on another trip Maybe on the way back you know? I'll catch ya on the rebound Chuck That is SO insulting It really is Let's just listen to him say that again What happened to our special relationship You know, are we supposed to have a special relationship with the UK? Yeah. It's over but I did speak to the king We're going to be going to NATO conference in Europe And i told him i'd stop either on the way there or on the way back it depends on my timing you know I got stuff to do very important things to discuss what he really is passionate about the environment so there you have president biden explaining why he's not there and savannah all eyes will be on that meeting that

11:12 visit that we expect the president to have and one of the key themes and passions that they share is their passion for the environment. Oh yes, Joe Biden's passion for the environment please give it up lady! And then of course we had The Royal Rift you know what's gonna happen with that would Harry show up he did Sons Mégon and you know of course they all came out on the balcony and who's gonna stand where, and all these important things. A lot of news that we are following but we do begin this half hour with a closer look at

11:49 at the Royal Rift on this Coronation Day. Prince Harry attending his father's ceremony but relegated to the spectator role ABC's Lama Hassan has more. This morning all eyes on these two brothers supporting their father, the newly unofficially minted King William and Harry reuniting publicly for the first time since the late Queen's funeral during the ceremony playing very different roles William now the first in line to the throne playing a big part presenting the king with the royal robes and paying homage to him. A flying visit for the prince who came on his own, his wife Megan stayed at home to be with their kids Harry attending the coronation service before jetting off back to California to be with his own family making it in time for a son Archie's fourth birthday The fact that she is not coming to the coronation I think it probably makes

12:45 Bit of relief to some of the other members of the family. They won't say that, but I'm sure it will be. That's the marbles we both. Of course not everybody was happy and if you weren't happy, you got arrested! Thousands of people lined the streets of London to try to catch a glimpse of King Charles and Queen Camilla on their coronation day but not everybody was happy about the event there were anti-monarchy demonstrations in some British cities In London several hundred protesters in Trafalgar Square booed repeatedly during the coronation service as it was belayed to crowds God save the King!

13:29 Protesters also chanted slogans including, Not My King. No justice no peace! Video footage showed several protesters dressed in t-shirts emblazoned with those words not my king being detained by police officers Now this was kind of interesting the these were professional professionally printed t-shirts yellow and professionally printed signs made to look like they were hand-drawn. I did a little examination, and they were all paid for by labor—by the Labor Party. Well the Labor Party's got the upper hand. I do have a clip of the results in local elections which is hurting labor... And there was some problems with that too! There

14:22 People couldn't vote. There were irregularities, let's put it that way. Oh yeah well anytime the labor side of things takes over there are irregularities Irregularities happen... Alright here is a... oh it's one of our favorites! This is MTD British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak's Conservative Party is facing a bleak set of local election results today Voters turn away from his party amid surging inflation and stagnant economic growth. But what I am going to carry on doing is delivering on the people's priorities, halving inflation growing the economy reducing debt cutting waiting lists and stopping the boats that's what people want us to do that's what i'm gonna keep on doing. Stopping the boat? Did he say stopping the vote?! Either that or stopping the boat which sounded like stopping the vote. Is delivering on the people's priorities halving inflation growing the economy reducing debt cutting waiting lists and stopping the boats That's what people want us to do. Stopping the boats

15:14 Stopping the boats. The boats with the immigrants, stopping the boats that's what people want they don't want to stop the boat. That's what people want us to do that's what I'm going to keep hard at doing and make no mistake we are on course for a Labour majority of the next general election The results showed the conservatives suffering a net loss of about 460 seats. Wow! The main opposition Labor Party added about 260 seats and the Liberal Democrats gained about 140 seats. Sunak said local elections results so far showed that people wanted his ruling party to deliver on their priorities

15:51 Opposition Labour Party leaders Keir Sturmer says the Labour Party is on course for a majority at the next general election. He describes Sunak's party as the problem, not the solution. Yeah... They're out! So there were um... A couple of interesting people The stunner of the coronation was Penny Mordaunt. Mordaunt? Penny Mordaunt I'm not quite sure how to pronounce it Now, she was Liz Truss's leader of the House of Commons. I'm not quite sure what her position is now but she got to carry—I guess she's the president of the Privy Council? It's the Privy Council.

16:34 We've talked about the Privy Council before. What is the Privy Council again? It's a bunch of drinking clubs, a bunch of guys in there who have a little meeting every once in awhile and... Well she got to carry the sword King Charles' priceless sword made for George IV 1821 coronation but it was what she was wearing! I think its got the world's biggest diamond in it Is that in the sword? I know Africa wants their diamond back. It really showcased her ample bosom

17:21 I'm just reading what the British press is saying. Amplifism! We gotta start using that term. It's shocking, shocking I tell you there was a couple of observations one that...I'm sure that it is these colors are meant to be but did you notice that the floor of Westminster had yellow and blue? Which whether it's intended or not is subliminal for Ukraine. It was kind of odd I don't know why the yellow and blue, I didn't look into it But I couldn't help but... Well you do know that they cleaned the thing recently to an extreme to get all the colors back up? But are those two carpets there? Is that the color carpet that they have in the exhibition? I thought it was the tiles

18:14 I thought it was carpet. It must signify something, the blue with ample bosom lady had the blue here coronation carpet resembles Ukrainian flag this is from The Telegraph some of oh well not alone oh this was the theme some of the guests including US first lady Jill Biden also wore yellow and blues they arrived Ugh! It's a setup. It sure sounds like it. That stinks I don't know if that was...if that's, that's very odd i don't see any other reason for it that is had yellow and blue carpets

18:52 And everyone's remarking, well maybe they're celebrating Sweden. Doubtful and then what several people point out to me is the ghoulish figure Oh could it be the rugged from Ikea? Yeah yes sorry yeah that was like that three-sided thing they had to put together from IKEA as well you know the that hides the chair or whatever for the secret stuff that Charles is doing behind Did you see the hooded ghoul? No, I did not see the hooded ghoul. You've got to look it up! So Zelensky was there... All of a sudden you see behind the arch as people have already come through the arch you see almost like um what's the guy with uh with uh with uh you know that death The Grim Reaper! The Grim Reaper thank you that guy he's a hooded ghoul just like the grim reaper with a long cane

19:49 Like in front of him and just like walks from one side of the arch to the other. It was very odd, I mean maybe it was a janitorial service but it was... You should look that up! I put it in the show notes. It's very interesting to see The Hooded Ghoul. Yes, I think that's kind of all that we had to say. I think we covered it. Yeah pretty much. I'm happy for King Charles you know but the whole thing is so odd is really really strange just to see this in 2023 The interesting thing was...I made this observation they spent a lot of time on these different overnight channels that were playing this thing live

20:35 And they had a lot of trying to humanize him. And they were going out of their way to humanize him, he was a comedian... He did a bunch of jokes when he was in high school, he was in a play, well it could have been an actor! Sure. They go on and on with all this humanization. And I'm thinking when did they ever start? Isn't the idea of a monarch and that whole kind of thing is something that's supra-human, it's not... Above human. Yes above human. Yeah above human! You're not supposed to humanize them and bring them down to the level of the people. Yes I think you're right he also becomes the head of the Church of England which i think is supposed to supersede the Pope somehow in England yeah exactly in England

21:25 So I found that peculiar because it seems that you want to make him rise above, not drag him down. And they were doing everything they could and it seemed as though he's a PR woman who is trying to get the... He's the man of the people, he understands the poor blah blah blah blah blah It's bullcrap! If you're going to be in a monarchy system, you don't want to degrade your monarch. No but... Once you push him in the other direction I do not get it! Well you are supposed go the other way You are supposed to be awesome like the queen and then put on your wellies and you go out into flood

22:07 And then you are, then you're humble. See that's the part that baffles me why would you want that? I don't want my king in a flood! That's the British way... Hey my King just got washed away what was he doing there what an idiot You know there are some listeners who actually like this stuff You know, there are monarchist type people and I would like them to explain to me my complaint which is why are they trying to drag the king down to the level of the impoverished? He's a King. He should be above it all he should be seen as you know a Supra, good word human Yeah, I'm with you. I don't know. I mean usually they do that after awhile, but again

22:55 I'm sorry, I just don't feel like this is gonna last very long. Just don't feel like it's gonna last long for Charles. William and Kate... even I would watch William and Kate's coronation you know that'll be fun then you're gonna have all of Hollywood coming You know it that'll be a super party Lionel Richie gets backseat for that you know we bring out the hot people the new ones the big stars The big stars like Lizzo? Boy, you're on a roll today. Damn! All right I want to talk about Ukraine and Russia because there's a lot going on there and we have an ongoing discussion over the future of the war. I'm of the opinion that the war is ending. We need to stop this as soon as possible and focus all of our purchasing and sales mainly sales although military-industrial complex likes to sell to us

23:50 but also to Taiwan. They just recently had a big sale there, it was a pre-sale trunk sale we sold them some F16's the biggest sale so far of the year you know that's where all the big money is and now you believe with some merit I will say not completely baseless That Joe Biden will do anything he can to get boots on the ground, to secure his presidency which is now announced or is running for president again. He's announced it, didn't he? He announced... Oh yeah! He announced that with a video, that crappy video that was...he couldn't even get through it. They had cut and cut and cut. You're one of those who said it was like 100 cuts death by 100 cuts Do you have a clip of that

24:36 No, we played it already on the show. Oh okay... Let's go to CBS. Nora O'Donnell. Russian authorities today are blaming the United States for an alleged assassination attempt on Vladimir Putin, the Biden administration calls Russia's new claim... Wait what did she say? Did I hear that right at the beginning? Russian authorities today are blaming the United States for an alleged assassination attempt on Vladimir Putin, the Biden administration calls Russia's new claim ludicrous. Ludicrous! The National Security Council... Ha! Did you hear the emphasis Nora put on that?! Ludicrous! This is her problem. She's gonna get fired because she can't seem to keep herself out of the reporting. It's odd that she does that. You know, if I was being executive mode... Pull her aside? I'd say, pull her aside and say hey knock that off and smile more The Biden administration... Shes a very charming smile i don't know why she doesn't use it more she does at the end of the show yeah

25:30 Here we go. Russian authorities today are blaming the United States for an alleged assassination attempt on Vladimir Putin, the Biden administration calls Russia's new claim ludicrous. The National Security Council spokesman John Kirby says the Kremlin is lying there are questions from the United States on if there even was an attack with Russia as president and as the target Ukraine says Russia staged the whole thing overnight several Ukrainian cities were attacked by drones I love this. I love that just throw away, oh several Ukrainian cities were attacked by drones what kind of drones? Reaper drones are we talking all these little... The little bitty ones with the bomb attached. Little cardboard drones which turns out most those are made in Australia the cardboard ones

26:15 And as far as I can tell, only the Ukrainians have the little remote control plane drones. I don't think Russia uses those so when she says several Ukrainian cities were attacked... There's no information here it is an information vapid report. Information hole! Let's try ABC. Russia tonight hurling new threats aimed at the US The deputy foreign minister warning they're quote on the verge of an open armed conflict with United States What? What? Are we on the verge of an opened arm, whatever that means. This is our reporting. Yes. Our reporting because we are on the verge of sending troops

26:56 I'm going to refute this at later Russia tonight hurling new threats aimed at the US. The deputy foreign minister warning they're quote on the verge of an open armed conflict with United States again claiming Ukraine carried out a drone attack on the Kremlin Wednesday attempting to assassinate Russian President Vladimir Putin at the direction of the U.S.. White House spokesman John Kirby firmly denying the allegations that the us was involved as quote a blatant lie still Russia warning of possible retaliation saying it will respond when and wherever it sees fit on the battlefield nightmarish new video reportedly showing Russian incendiary bombs burning in a Ukrainian held pocket of bakhmut and the potentially major development on that battlefield today The head of Moscow's Wagner mercenary group says he's pulling his troops out of the eastern Ukrainian city because they're not being supplied with enough

27:45 ammunition. In a video statement, Yevgeny Prigozhin calling his Russian leadership cowards and saying his troops will leave Bakhmut next week on May 10th Western officials say half of the 20,000 Russian troops killed in Ukraine since December were Wagner fighters in Bakhmut Okay that's not the... I think they misreported that story okay he said he would he didn't say he will It's very vague. I got one clip from NTD, the Wagner group guy is irked. Turning now to the Ukraine war The leader of Russia's Wagner Group mercenary force said today that his forces would leave the Ukrainian city of Bakhmut Russia has been trying to capture this city since last summer

28:33 We were put on what's known as artificial ammunition deficit, ammunition hunger. The ammunition is freely available in the depots we were receiving only 30% of what we needed for that reason our losses were significantly higher than they should have been Prygozhin said they would pull back on May 10th. He asked defense chiefs to insert regular army troops in their place Wagner has been spearheading Russia's long and costly attempt to capture Bakhmut Prygozhin said three weeks ago that his men controlled more than 80 percent of the city but Ukrainian defenders have held out and Prygozhins has vented increasing anger at what he describes as a lack of support from the Russian defense establishment

29:16 Bachmut has taken on huge symbolic importance for both sides because of the sheer intensity and duration of the fighting there. You know, we really haven't gotten a good background on the Wagner group and why they're there... It's a good point! I mean also just oh Wagner Group, Wagner Group it's kind like Academy or Blackwater formerly known as Blackwaters that is that what i'm supposed to think of The Wagner Group? And the Wagner group, they're like a fair weather friend. Oh you don't give us bullets we go somewhere else! I'm angry and who cares? Is that all that Russia has? It just sounds like that's all that Russia has is the Wagner group. Yeah there's something fishy about this Wagner or Vagner, sure if it's Wagner or Wagner... Wagner she puts it. All of that just seems moot compared to this next story covered by both ABC and NPR now The Patriot missiles

30:09 which several European countries have given their Patriot missiles, we've given our Patriot missile banks. What do we know about the Patriot missiles? Are they great are they effective? They're considered lousy and they don't work! Well listen to this story... New images capturing the battle for Ukraine unfolding in the skies over Kiev The country's air force tonight with a spectacular claim that for the first time they've shot down a Russian hypersonic missile, which Vladimir Putin once called invincible with an American-made Patriot Missile System. The Russian hypersonic known as the Kinzhal can travel at more than five times the speed of sound and has a range of over 1,000 miles. Ukraine only recently deploying the Patriot, the most technologically advanced and costly air defense system in the world each Patriot missile almost three million dollars but the Patriots ability to shoot down a hypersonic missile has never been publicly demonstrated

31:06 I have my doubts about this story. Do you? Because i do! I have my doubts about the painting. This sounds like bull crap A hypersonic missile. The Patriot Missile, notorious dog at three million bucks a pop. Costly is the word he used. We also don't know if this Russian missile was actually hypersonic. And yeah, the Russian missile who knows what that was? You know what it's impossible I'm just going to throw this out there. You can get something going over 5,000 miles an hour or 4,000-5,000 miles an hour. I don't think so not with it not at that altitude No. It would burn... I don't know, could this? Is it possible this is all just a wag the dog media war? Oh i think i think this last thing wasn't a wag the dog thing was let's sell some more Patriots to some other suckers! Yeah well let's listen if NPR isn't on the sale. Overseas Ukraine says they used a newly acquired US Patriot missile battery to shoot down a Russian hybrid- I gotta read something from The Troll Room alright listen to this Ice Cube

32:07 If the hypersonic missile is not very maneuverable, then the Patriot has a chance with the software upgrade. Please! I think it would be a firmware upgrade not a software upgrade Hey man we can get your hypersonic missile just let me upgrade the firmware Yeah, no overseas Ukraine says it used a newly acquired US Patriot missile battery to shoot down a Russian hypersonic weapon over the capital of Kiev last week Newman has more attacks on Ukraine in recent months Russia has increasingly employed one of its latest high-tech missiles the Kenzel or dagger traveling at up to ten times the speed of sound. The missile had proved nearly impossible to intercept and

32:51 But Ukraine's air force... Wait, stop! When was it tested against interception? They've been firing these things off left and right and they've been impossible to intercept. I don't know Sounds like a... By the way, I have the sales pitch that they didn't use. The guy with the software upgrade? The new Patriot missile got the hypersonic missile using AI! AI yes!! What are we thinking people?! Curry Dvorak Consulting Group to the rescue once again Yes We have this is you're so right These guys are behind-the-times military industrial complex hire us We will help you This is exactly right

33:35 The new Patriot. Yes, we go now to General Dvorak who's going to explain how it was possible for this Patriot missile often known as the dog of war to actually intercept the hatchet whatever it was called. Yeah that hatchet comes down yeah well the AI which stands for artificial intelligence can tell can adjust the sighting and targeting so far in advance that before the missile is actually launched by the Russians, it will know where it's going to go. That's right! The dagger... the dagger I'm sorry... The dagger yeah we sheathed the dagger We're not afraid of your dagger Russia we've got Patriot AI traveling at up to 10 times the speed of sound the missile had proved nearly impossible to intercept

34:24 But Ukraine's Air Force, armed with US-supplied Patriot missiles that arrived last month, says it destroyed a Kinzhal during a Russian strike on Kiev earlier this week. It is thought to be the first time Ukraine has managed to intercept a Russian hypersonic missile In October the U.S agreed to supply Patriots to Ukraine To aid in defending its skies against the Kremlin's air and missile attacks Yet there's a drone, yet there are drones attacking multiple cities in Ukraine and they can't stop them. They can't stop those? No! And my understanding is that most of the missiles that were hitting Ukraine over time were cruise missiles not this crazy hypersonic thing Well I mean was there any evidence that they we're being pounded by these things in the past? I don't know this... Well we know why this is a story because yeah we need to develop hypersonic missiles

35:20 Yeah, there's more money there. You're right. But then again if the Patriot can bring him down you know maybe we have to do a hyper-hypersonic. Now we were talking about the just war they call this in Ukraine it is not a just war this comes from its military ethics Just War Theory there's our whole Wikipedia page on it which has been studied by military leaders, theologians, ethicists and policy makers. Consultants! It's doctrine to ensure that a war is morally justifiable through a series of criteria, all of which must be met for war to be considered just. Jus ad bellum — the right-to-go war." And, of course... This comes from ancient Egypt and it's been... I mean, jihad was a just war. You get pretty excused and blow stuff up. I agree. I agree. But I heard from our constitutional law professor JJ

36:24 He says the war of aggression in international law, which I'm like show me their International Law book. They sent me stuff but it was not a book that says this is international law because that just doesn't exist. The supreme crime! Supreme crime is a war of aggression That means an unprovoked attack such as the primary charge against heads of Germany and Japan after World War II You mean all those provoked attacks? Yeah, well yeah. I'm just defining it but of course there was a lot of provocation. The attack on Pearl Harbor was provoked? Of course! It was in fact provoked. Tell people

37:15 It doesn't mean that wasn't chicken shit. Tell us how it was provoked what was provoked because we did cut off all kinds of We from trade we had to we got into a trade war for all practical purposes with Japan exactly and we specifically we provoked them Yeah, and I would say the twig cutting them off here in there cutting him off at the knees here And they're what you're trying to do China? and it provoked him and so they you know joined up forces with the with the Nazis and Caught us into the war by bombing Pearl Harbor, which we some people believe was I think with some justification that we knew it was coming. So that we could get into the war

37:55 Sounds why we moved all our big carriers. We left all the junky boats behind Move the big carriers off the road, but just coincidence luckily our big carriers weren't anywhere near the place That's a lucky coincidence that about that part of the story is not told in the Pacific War Museum here in Fredericksburg and there and it's a good that the carriers were moved out of the way no I No, it's not told. Not told. It's a... by the way that's a dynamite museum if you ever want to see just like a great museum the Pacific War Museum in Fredericksburg because of course Admiral Nimitz grew up in Fredericksburg

38:35 And the Nimitz was a huge aircraft carrier that won the war for our boys. Well, Nimitz almost I could say won the Pacific War by himself almost Just him and his pipe Him and his buddies So Ann Applebaum... Do you have anything on Ukraine? Any other stuff before I go in and blow you out of the water Yeah It's funny when you ask knowing you have to listen You see nothing I don't really look at your list. I mean, I don't really care. Well that's sweet of you... No but it's not supposed to! I'm not supposed know what you're playing. You know, I guess the Wagner group guy thought he had some Ukraine clips? I think i have some left over from... Nope, I used them all. We're good to go So Anne Applebaum is a she's kind of immediate darling of this war Yeah we have to revisit who she is because

39:31 Every time I look her up every so often and every time I hear her name, she's a spook of some sort or she's an Asian provocateur. Or she...I don't know what she is! And then I forget about her completely and then you bring her up again and I have to be reminded who she is." Because she keeps popping up everywhere as the expert now of course she writes for The Atlantic currently but... She is Polish-American, so she's been very involved in this because she's actually been in Poland. Isn't her husband or boyfriend... he was the guy that when When we blew up the Nord Stream, he said thanks America or some... I'm paraphrasing. Thanks America! Good job everybody! Reading from her Wikipedia page she has written extensively about the history of communism so that she would be a trans Maoist She would be part of this system trying to drive us into communism

40:29 She's worked at The Economist, The Spectator, a member of the editorial board of the Washington Post. She won the coveted Pulitzer Prize for general nonfiction for Gulag, A History published in 2004 Staff writer for Atlantic, senior fellow at the Agora Institute Johns Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies. Yeah I'd say Spook. Oh Sidwell and Friends! Eh? Spook? You think so? Wait... I got another one as a student yeah she spent the summer in Leningrad Yes she did. But you went to Sidwell's Friends school is where all the spook children go too including my cousins oh okay well that's a giveaway and she's Phi Beta Kappa

41:15 So she's not a dummy which is Spooks love 580 cameras. And in 1989 just by coincidence, she drove from Warsaw to Berlin to report on the collapse of the Berlin Wall Anyway, yeah this girl is connected. And she has been writing a lot about Russia I think she... St Anthony's College Oxford. She's probably in Rhodes Deal or something who knows? She's been writing about Russia since the early 1990s and 2000s to describe the links between the then new president of Russia Vladimir Putin with former Soviet leader Yuri Andropov. The former KGB. And drop him off!

41:55 In 2008 she began speaking about Putinism as an anti-democratic... Putinism, okay. Yeah, Putinism. Let me write that down. Have we ever used that as a title? Nope! Putinism. Ah I don't care for it so she... Okay. I like ample bosom as the title better. How do you spell bosom? BOSOM. Ample Bosum. Okay So she's an activist. Whether or not she is writing all this material is another question because we know that the agencies, plural have plenty of writers who cranked things up I feel bad for these guys who write for somebody else and then their name is never mentioned. Ghostwriters. Member of Council on Foreign Relations on the board of the National Endowment for Democracy which is a huge

42:49 NGO funding outfit. Yeah, we should get money from them Good luck Member of the Institute for War and Peace Reporting's International Board of Directors Isn't that Amy's outfit? I don't think so But it is just a war and peace report Senior adjunct fellow at the Center for European Policy Analysis Spook outfit led a major initiative aimed at countering Russian disinformation in Central Eastern Europe Okay you get the idea Yeah, geez. It's like holy moly! So she's tied in she's clued in and knows what is going on And as usual... Her spouse is this guy who is Radoslaw Sikorski a Polish politician and journalist who was a member of the European Parliament and he was some other thing He's Polish He's real Polish She has got her new book out

43:46 Oh, of course she does. You can crank those books up when you're not doing any work! The Twilight of Democracy explains with electrifying clarity why some of her contemporaries have abandoned liberal democratic ideas in favor of strongman cults nationalist movements or one-party states Who's this? Name people that have gone for that I'm just reading from her blurb Stalin's war on Ukraine, she knows it all. She knows it all okay so we've established what she is and who she is and what she does... And every-we have to do this over and over again! She's the perfect-and Ann Applebaum's her name okay? What?! Sure. Well you know the CIA renames everybody to something else

44:42 You said if you're gonna start renaming people with some phony baloney names I think an apple bomb is a pretty good choice Let's see. Oh and her most recent article in Atlantic Is was May 1st the case for total liberation of Ukraine Russia must be expelled from all of Ukraine's territory including Crimea so This is what she may be writing and saying, you know for all of her Washington DC hoity-toity people But as we know you put any of these Any of these intellectuals? Anybody really reporter he put him on a podcast. What happens they talk out they speak out of turn They say too much this way too much and wouldn't you know it She was on the pivot podcast which is the award winning technology podcasts

45:39 That doesn't really talk about technology with your favorite of mine, Karish Twisher and the professor G. Scott Galloway and they asked her specifically about ending the war in Ukraine as I said i think that there the counteroffensive is might not look like what we think it would look like I mean may not be kind of regains of tanks What? They've been talking about this counter offensive so she's a spokesperson for who knows who And she says, hey you know it's not going to look like we think. Which means it is either not going to happen or its a huge dud or somethings wrong. It looks better! Look like what we think it would look like and may not be kind of brigades of tanks streaming across the countryside. It may come in fits and starts so there maybe as I said I think the Ukraine is going to be probing at the main... Hold on a second, I don't want to interrupt her in chief but... Yeah yeah you can be go ahead

46:37 How does she know any of this? She's boots on the ground, man. Is she Defense Department? DIA what's the deal? She is everything! She knows what's going on This is this is what so beautiful about the podcast You know she thinks I'm just gonna chat with Kara and Scott The way we do it at the club The Libjo Club, we're just gonna talk a little bit and well as you know This is how they talk when they're on the phone. She's forgetting that people listen to the podcast she's very different when she's on MSNBC or CNN or even one of them with the networks? She's an official. She is that she is a spokeshole for what's going on. She has written the book

47:16 It may come in fits and starts. She's a patriot! So there may be, as I said, I think the Ukrainians are going to be probing up and down the line they're gonna be looking for political opportunities as well as military opportunities What part of their goal is to kind of destabilize the Kremlin? As we've already discussed And create a sense in Russia that you know, just that the war is a waste of time. So this is very important because this is what she's part of, these groups that go in and do subversive stuff in the country to shape, you know, coup basically color revolution and they have had in their mind for the longest time if only we can get Vladimir Putin to be thrown out by his own people This is what they really want

48:06 But, you know Putin threw out all the NGOs funded by USAID. Yeah he saw it coming! He saw it and when was that in 2015 or something? Oh a while ago they can't touch him. So anyway this is what the Ukrainians are now going to do. Kind of destabilize the Kremlin as we've already discussed and create a sense in Russia that You know, just that the war is a waste of time and energy and it should be stopped. That sounds like a plan! Yeah let's convince Putinism that its a waste of time! Remember they don't need to occupy Moscow or conquer Moscow or take Russian territory They have no ambitions like that

48:48 All they have to do is convince the Russians, you know, to go home. And really the moment when the Russians withdraw their troops, the war's over. So there is no complicated territorial negotiation. There is nothing complex that needs to be done. They just need to leave and then it's over." But they're not going to leave, right? They're not going. I mean they have left... Such a probing question Kara Swisher well asked. ...plex that needs to be done they just need to leave and then it's over but they're not going to leave right they're not willing to. Well i mean they have left um they left Kherson they left um Kharkiv and they left you know the northern part of Ukraine that they conquered at the beginning of the war so there is some precedent for thinking they could leave So what if they just left uh Bakhmut

49:31 Then they could say, oh it's over. They left! Maybe that's why all this focus is on that right now. Maybe this is the Wagner group's job because they're fair-weather friends but we give up we have no support there's nothing we're leaving and then then they could clear victory I mean and we still have to prosecute Vladimir Putin at the International Criminal Court But that would be one area. She's definitely backpedaling on the war aspect of it, no we just have to convince the people of Russia to tell Vladimir Putin it's a waste of time he just needs to pull out and then it's over! The war is overdone!" That's what I heard from Ann Applebaum did you hear that? I heard that the Ukrainians have got nothing...that's why there's not going to be a counteroffensive which they've been putting off it seems to me an awful long time

50:26 But your thesis because of the, it's possible this Wagner group guy who is notorious for being a blowhard according to other reports. You might be right he may be setting it up for this withdrawal and then the Russians... For one thing they're leaving a mess. Yeah, for sure I mean it's an area that the Russian were dicking around in are messed up They've killed a lot of people. Yes, it's very bad day for Ukrainians there It's a bad day and so uh Well let me give you some I don't know what they could do Hold on hold on Let me give you a little more because this was a long interview No i'm all ears here go on So now listen to this about

51:16 The US's support in all of this, what do we really want to have happen? How would you assess the West's... Well I'm Bob Scott Gobble. I'm a professor of marketing at NYU and I'm gonna talk war now with you! How would you assess the West's support for Ukraine and What are your views on and do you have a message for the West? Yeah, do you have a message. Can you give us the CIA's message and Ukraine and what are your views on it? Do you have a message or for the West so it's really impressive what we've done so far And it's a lot more than anybody had ever expected

51:59 And that's also a reflection of the fact that Ukrainians just impressed people. You know, Zelensky was good at communicating but it wasn't just him. It was the... you know, the Ukrainians fought back in Mariupol for example in early part of the war and in Kiev. And because of that... Mariupol is rubalized! We continue. Opal, for example... Let's go back a little on that one. ...communicating but it wasn't just him it was the you know the you know the Ukrainians fought back you know in Mariupol for example at the very early part of the war and in Kiev and because... Hey! Did you hear what I just heard? I didn't hear this before did you hear what I just heard she said Kiev she said Kiev maybe she's a double agent uh you know I wonder about

52:53 When you talk to people from the area, they say you can pronounce it either way. It's no big deal but we've been pronouncing Kiev recently only inundated by saying Kiev could be a part of the milieu she's in Russian KGB I think she's CIA may be calling it Kiev for all we know good one and Ukrainians fought back at Mariupol for example at the very early part of the war and in Kyiv And because of that, you've had this galvanizing effect on Europe and America. You know our willingness to give them weapons and help them is extraordinary I would say one thing which is that we always seem to be kind of three or four beats behind the situation Eventually we will give them... We said we wouldn't give them HIMARS either these long-range missiles

53:40 long-range artillery, you know and then we did. You know we said we wouldn't give them airplanes and now actually they're beginning to get some airplanes from European countries and we may eventually do that too. And it would help if we would give them more immediately because then we could maybe end the war more quickly I mean the danger of this war obviously is that it drags on which is not good for them not good for us not good for anybody. And having a decisive plan end it, you know soon. Isn't something... A decisive plan to end it you know soon isn't something I'm feeling from Washington. I mean Washington remains in Washington meaning the White House the Pentagon lots of different people remains nervous about the idea that the Ukrainians

54:27 could win, in other words could push the Russians out of at least their territory since February 22 taken since February 2022 but more than that territory taken since 2014. And there seems to be... There's still a lot of nervousness and I think that that's been kind of drag on the war and there is danger that that nervousness could extend So they don't want them to win too much. They just want them to take... They seem to not, nobody says it quite like that and nobody will ever say that on the record you know even off the record they don't really say that but Except on a podcast ya dunce!

55:05 Stupid woman. They seem to not, nobody says it quite like that and nobody will ever say that on the record you know even off the record they don't really say that but yeah it's pretty clear that they're nervous about what that would mean and I think that's wrong because again for now I think said this another time it's a political struggle as well as a military one and the Russians have to be convinced that they can't win and there is no opportunity for them to win Now she said a lot there, and I think this could go either my way or your way. What I heard her say was they want them to win but let's not drag this out and try and get Crimea back that's what i hear what did you hear? Boots on the ground baby! They're coming That possible it's possible It's possible...I think it could go either way But I just like how podcasts are beautiful

56:00 Please, and I love hearing this on the number one award-winning tech podcast. That's what I love so much about it It's there ever been any tech discussed on this award winning tech podcast all the time? It's mainly Kara and Scott got professor G's hatred of Elon Musk that is the extent of tech that they discuss That's really it. That's all they do well as long as a winner wards cares And they're very, very happy about their award. They think they're great. Who did they get an award from? Oh it was like a big award like the Webbys or one of those. Ooh a Webby! Yeah, ooh a Webby! Have you ever won a Webby?! No and Webbies are only really... we had the woman who started the Webbies on The Old Silicon Spin Show she was actually part of I think she worked at Tech TV for awhile and very nice

56:58 nice girl who was a kind of pretty blonde that is kind of like over made up or quite attractive in a funny kind of high schoolish way. Then one of the girls that was also a staffer knew her in high school and she was one of those good looking mean girls, this is what we had and she hated her. And I said well she's nice and she was good on this show, she's very charming Sharp and inventive and can manage to make these webbies work. I was very impressed by her Remember name yeah, but it's it's I know the guy who produces that friend of mine actually produces the award show itself And he's not cheap keep this very very expensive stuff trying to find this award they won They can't seem to find it um The other part in an award

57:52 We should win the Peabody. You've said this several times, hey I'm still waiting for my production award sound award Oh yeah but there's that don't worry you're gonna get it From whom? It's going to have to be from the audio engineers or one of those guys They never even televise those Well, you're not gonna get televised. But you don't even get to do an acceptance speech! What audio guy ever gets on television? I want Ricky Gervais to accept for me. Oh, I accept thee on behalf of Curry. Meanwhile the American public is not foolish. No they know exactly what's going on C-SPAN is where they air their grievances because hey it's television Good morning thanks for taking my call

58:40 It's gonna be 62 this year. Thanks for taking my call! I've never seen our country in such turmoil You know, Donald Trump as much as people hate that man he's given us a peek behind the curtains how things work For example your last segment regarding the war it's funny how the media They don't quite lie, they just give you one side of the story. And the media is in bed with the politicians, The National Security Agency spying on a president changing elections We have a war in Ukraine that was started by us! We blew up the Nord Stream Pipeline

59:35 We're letting millions of immigrants flow across our border. Good enough, good enough. Tim, how do we blow up the Nord Stream pipeline? Well, again if the media would do their job. The New York Times journalist has wrote about this in detail. He has wrote about it! And how this was done Joe Biden even said it on television not quite said we're going to do it but he was asked How are you going to stop the pipeline? He said, we got ways to do it. Now if the media would get on board... You guys are supposed to be in the Constitution! You're protecting the people but your all in cahoots with the politicians, the establishment, the very powerful people, the Bilderberg People right?! All these billionaires that want this global

1:00:32 world order. They want us eating bugs, right? Men are women and women are men! Every institution is upside down nobody trusts anybody anymore Let's stop right there. Let's go to Sandra who is calling from Tennessee on the independent line. All right, well done! I'll give you a clip of the day for that guy. Oh that's very kind of him. That guy is good. Now that was...that's the black Democrat host of that call-in show. He really hates Trump. Well let's play this one for him then. A just in

1:01:12 I don't even know how this gets out, video of Trump's deposition in the accusation. Oh yeah this is great! This is only a little piece and there's you know it's on YouTube so they had to censor out the word rape for some reason and I guess YouTube kicks it off if you have rape in there but as the president being deposed about EJ Carroll we when she first came out with his accusation a couple years ago several clips was so embarrassing that even Anderson Cooper would just like take this woman off the air when she was like, yeah rape is sexy. This is... She's a nut job! Frightening and people are sending me these clips like it's new Hey look what Anderson Cooper did four years ago whenever it was but here's a little piece of the deposition Okay then you go on to say in the statement and while I am not supposed to say it I will

1:02:07 Why were you not supposed to say it? Because it's not politically correct to say Read the next go ahead that she's on my time Yeah, because it's not politically correct to say and I know that but I'll say it anyway She's accusing me of a woman that I have no idea who she is. The worst thing you can do the worst charge And you know it's not true too. You're a political operative also, you're a disgrace but she is accusing me and so are you of...and it never took place And I will tell you, I made that statement and said well it's politically incorrect. She is not my type and that is 100% true she is not my type You were referring to her physical looks correct? Just the overall look at her, see her hear what she says whatever You wouldn't be a choice of mine either to be honest with ya hope your not insulted I would not under any circumstances have interest in you

1:03:08 I'm being, I'm honest when I say it. The only difference between me and other people is that I am honest." I love this! You know there's...I was watching some of the analysis of this and there are guys who I know are Trump haters on certain networks Yeah And they just thought it was the funniest thing because you have to admire a guy who goes in a deposition he's calling out the lawyer on the other side for being not as tight homely So here, just for people to refresh people's memory it was 2019 June 27th is when we have the clip of E. Jean Carroll talking to Anderson Cooper about this rape and what she thinks of rape You don't feel like a victim I was not thrown on the ground or ravished The word rape carries so many sexual

1:03:56 connotation. This was not sexual, it just hurt. I think most people think of rape as a violent assault. I think most people think of rape is being sexy. Go to commercial! We've got a ticket if you can stick around we'll talk Fascinating to talk to I forgot about that. That's horrible for that woman say that that's horrible horrible

1:04:33 And by the way, you know in a dressing room have you ever been and I've been in a number of these dress You don't even have much anymore. But in these department stores at the dressing rooms just gonna throw somebody on the floor There's no room in those things Not like a lounge you haven't been into the women's dressing rooms They got definitely got lounges in there as well because this party to get champagne bars they got all kinds of stuff going here in the wrong store Meanwhile, it looks like MSNBC is definitely trying to take down President Biden. As you said the word is out its take down Biden time In less than four weeks government's going to run out of money and so many these economic wins could fall by the wayside

1:05:18 As president, what are you going to do to help us avoid default? Look. Not a single solitary Congress has ever reneged on the debt. The debt is not a debt that I accumulated. The debt is not a debt that occurred over the last several years it's 200 years of debt...200 years and the idea that we wouldn't pay our debt is just bizarre. You know, I've always noticed this I remember Dave Weiner would write about it, you know. And Dave and I we invented podcasting together but when it comes to the debt ceiling he's like this is...we're America! It's our full faith in credit. Of course we have to print more money, we have to borrow more money and I've never understood that it's embedded in people's brains. What are you talking about?

1:06:13 That's just crazy talk. We've always done that, 200 years you heard the president say it and believe it or not economists of the country Nobel Peace Prize a Nobel Economic Prize winning economist Paul Krugman on May 3rd says again minting a 1 trillion dollar coin to prevent a debt ceiling crisis is possible would not be inflationary how I mean is this am I crazy? I mean we've heard... No, he is. Yes! We've heard this for so many years. Oh a trillion dollars? It has to be platinum. It has to be platinum it wouldn't be- Before you go off on this, you didn't- You were talking about Trump and the rape. Well i have another Biden thing from Stephanie Ruhle too. Well I have Trump and the Rape which I would- Is that a show title? Trump in The Rape?

1:07:13 Rape would be not good in the title. I just want to play these two clips one is this Trump he wants a change of venue for the rape trial or No, this isn't the rape trial there's the other trial but you know it's just a harassment trial This is the one for him and his election fraud In other news, the Trump legal team is reportedly trying to move the former president's criminal case from New York City to a federal court. If successful it could mean a more favorable outcome for Trump. Shifting to federal court could give Trump an advantage because it would expand the possible jury pool outside of Manhattan where more voters favored President Biden and Democrats

1:07:54 A federal judge would have to approve the request. The 45th president entered a not guilty plea to 34 felony counts of falsifying business records It's in connection to payments that his campaign made during the 2016 election, To silence allegations about an affair Trump has denied having an affair and also denied any wrongdoing in the case That's quite a stretch, the way they explain what that trial is about. It's quite a stretch. Yeah it is kind of a stretch but it brought me to this old supercut. Super cut! This was pretty much the same kind of thing that happened... I mean what happened here was... John Edwards right? The John Edwards case where he actually not only had an affair with a woman that he bought off with campaign funds

1:08:42 But she had a kid, she had a child by him and it was like little more sleazy I think than what Trump went through. But the mainstream media meanwhile didn't have this same kind of, ah we got Trump now he's going to jail! Let's listen how they treated the John Edwards, the same mainstream media people with exception or few who got in the meantime.

1:09:26 the government overreach. You're right, you're right. That's the main thing to note. That's the main difference. Predable charged with campaign funding that nobody has ever heard of before and put him away for a while It just looks like revenge against the party against somebody who lost an election Even if most of the facts prove true there already is controversy over whether it all amounts to a federal crime Critics blasts the government case against the former presidential candidate

1:10:12 Why they say what he did may not have been against the law today. So I guess the question is, is CAD or criminal? There are people who are saying that this indictment is very questionable A Washington Post editorial said it's troubling that the Justice Department would choose to devote its scarce resources to pursuing this questionable case Even some of those with no love for Edwards are scratching their heads over the charges Even some who find Edwards' behavior despicable question the strength of this case. Leave him alone, I mean why waste our effort on that? What's your political view do you think is politics in this prosecutor was it just a Republican US attorney going after this guy sticking around to do the dirty work for the arts

1:10:52 Yeah, yeah. Well the difference is clear it was a Democrat versus a Republican but of course... It's just to be noted I want to go back to the trillion dollar coin for second because this is all part of what is supposed to take down Joe Biden and Krugman who says and he tweeted this so you know as he's serious quote The Fed would surely sterilize any impact on the monetary base by selling off some of its huge portfolio of US debt suggesting the Fed would likely sell $1 trillion worth of government bonds. In fact, he says it's more likely that the Federal Reserve or the government would issue premium bonds to avoid default than mint the one trillion dollar coin but he says the trillion dollar coin would not be inflationary

1:11:40 And he says that the Fed chairman probably wouldn't accept it. I mean, would you? If some dude came up and said hey, hey, hey, I got a trillion dollar platinum coin. Do you want it? I don't think I'd accept it either! Well if somebody gave me a trillion dollars worth of platinum which I think is at 1200 bucks...I'm not sure what it is an ounce but 900 to 1200. Meanwhile we just have bank after bank going out of business this is kind of fun How that works. All right, back to taking the takedown of President Joe Biden with Stephanie Ruhle who is also a finance insider

1:12:17 The boys at the trading floor loved her. You have officially announced you're running for re-election and in your first video, you featured Vice President Harris 10 times when Obama was in that position he didn't mention you sir what are you trying to tell us? Whoa! What's with the Sir business Stephanie Rules? Wow that was pretty rude. Sir?! What is she trying to be Is this like... I thought that was a very rude way of asking that question. In fact, I have a feeling that these questions were inserted later You know how they do an over the shoulder interview? Oh no! They can't you think?! That's chicken shit Stephanie Rule When Obama was in that position he didn't mention you sir Sir What are you trying to tell us? Well uh Did she just laugh at him!?

1:13:12 She laughed in his face. What are you trying to tell us? Well, whether that was edited or not, that's a lot of hell she laughed at him. What are you trying to do? Well, the president of all I became very good friends. We just had a slightly different style of how we do things. As you recall, every major initiative President Obama had I was the last guy in the room deciding that with him giving him any advice what we should do and he's committed to helping anyway can this time out but look i just think that Vice President Harris hasn't gotten the credit she deserves

1:13:56 She was an attorney general in the state of California. She has been a United States senator, she is really very good and with everything going on she hasn't gotten the attention she deserves Don't. Well she's getting it now because she is in charge of the AI da- Danger! Danger, danger... AI is gonna take over the world It's gonna steal your job but luckily Kamala Harris vice president to the rescue The White House is now signaling its support for some rules and regulations surrounding The launch, if you will of artificial intelligence as a new technology begins to disrupt a number of industries with some experts warning can end up wreaking havoc on society if not properly constrained.

1:14:40 The Biden administration hosted a meeting today with a number of big tech executives to discuss the risks posed by AI while also discussing potential safeguards. In the statement, the vice president Kamala Harris who took part in the meeting warned that AI has the quote potential to dramatically increase threats to safety and security infringed on civil rights and privacy and erode public trust and faith in democracy. Oh! Civil rights? Not exactly uplifting Wait wait wait let's hear those dangers again write them down we want to make sure that this doesn't happen This is like bull crap I mean how does it have to do with any of this? No, i know what's going on here. Hold on... In a statement the vice president Kamala Harris who took part in the meeting warned that AI has the glory potential Did she take part or did she lead the meeting? I think thats a slam right there from NBC

1:15:24 She led the meeting Chuck a statement the vice president Kamala Harris who took part in the meeting warned that AI has Potential to dramatically increase threats to safety and security In fringe on civil rights and privacy and erode public trust and faith in democracy Faith not exactly uplifting faith in democracy today's meeting comes days after this so-called godfather of AI says he left Google To more freely speak out about the dangers that technology composed. I'm so couple things This is the oldest trick in the book Now remember, our general thesis is The ad market has gone incredibly soft. The big tech companies had staffed up during COVID, they... TikTok came in started to threaten everybody's business certainly Meta's business and even Google as we know fact that Google from Google's own internal research one out of two people search for things on TikTok before they search on Google. TikTok has entered the search ad marketplace

1:16:24 And what do you do when your... notice who wasn't at the table. TikTok wasn't at the table ByteDance wasn't at the table that I'm aware of. You know what you do is, you go to the government and say look we got a new thing here this is the new-new thing it's the hot thing everybody wants it AI is... What can call AI? AI is the new blockchain yeah that's it! AI is the new blockchain. Blockchain, blockchain remember? Do we remember blockchain? Horowitz and I used to comment during the heyday of blockchains how these these Moribund companies would come up and all of a sudden introduce, we're gonna have black chain. They just say the word and their stock would go up five points. Riot was famous for that. Now it's the same thing with AI. The stock goes right up. Yep so what do you want to do? You want to make sure that... And this is why we had this letter signed, the open letter by Elon Musk who as you notice has no AI play he doesn't have a play

1:17:24 And so they, oh we did slow it down but slowed down by six months at least. So I can catch up with my AI play." So it's the new blockchain and then they're getting ahead of the game this time you know this is a... We need a new or expanded section 230 something that new entrance into the AI space cannot compete with because they won't have the money. This is the old, that's why it's Kamala's job We all know what the idea is here They're in DC not for this dumb meeting They're at everyone every senator and congressman's door Talking about you know What kind of legislation can we put in place so no other people can get into our coveted AI space? But I got to go do this stupid meeting with the vice president for a minute photo op

1:18:12 It's all, of course they want regulation. They love it! They want the regulations so they can own this space and that just means... Yeah absolutely this is a general no agenda thesis How you do it Now you heard in that report and we discussed on the last show That the godfather of AI that he had left Google so he could speak freely about it because I don't know is Google like some kind of gulag where you can't talk? Like when you work there, oh you can't discuss anything. And we should mention if all this is true they would have had him sign an NDA upon his resignation for a pot of money

1:18:52 And he wouldn't be talking at all. So, he's out there talking because he is allowed to talk or they want him to talk or something like that. Wanted to talk may be the right one and the big get was for PBS! PBS NewsHour completely independent They have the get and we know the guys name now He has three names Like any criminal Jeff Bennett Jeffrey Hilton Hinton Jeff Bennett No That can't be it Jeffrey Hinton? I don't even know the guy's name. Let's listen to him. This has been a week where concerns over the rapidly expanding use of artificial intelligence... Jeff Bennett is the PBS guy, Jeffrey Hinton is an AI guy! I've misread my own titles. ...resonated loudly in Washington and around the world. Whoa resonated loudly it was it was this there was that the resignation heard around the world Vice President Kamala Harris... Never heard of the guy

1:19:49 Let's do that again. Resonated loudly in Washington and around the world Vice President Kamala Harris met yesterday with top executives from companies leading an AI development Microsoft, Google OpenAI and Anthropic. The vice president discussed some of the growing risks and told the companies they had a quote moral obligation to develop AI safely That meeting came just days after one of the leading voices in the field of AI, Dr. Geoffrey Hinton announced he was quitting Google over his worries about the future of AI and what it could eventually lead to unchecked We're going to hear about some of those concerns now with Dr. Geoffrey Hinton who joins me from London See? He's escaped to London What is he doing in London?! He has at the coronation of course! Time to party down What are those risks as you see it There are quite a few different risks

1:20:40 There's a risk of producing a lot of fake news so nobody knows what's true anymore. And we need AI for that? How do we need AI for that, Macedonia did the job just fine! Yeah how about the troll farms they were great. We don't need AI or maybe cheaper but okay. How is it even cheaper? Encouraging polarization by getting people to click on things that make them indignant. What do you mean? You mean click bait? Yeah, you mean like AI can't do click bait we do click bait the American creative types do clickbait and we do it great We do great clickbait There's the risk of putting people out of work It should be that when we make things more productive When we greatly increase productivity it helps everybody

1:21:31 But let me stop that for a second. It is my belief that no matter, and I do not think AI is any risk or any opportunity honestly. Yeah there's some writing opportunities okay it's a large language model so it can do writing stuff very good as with every new technology stuff has to go away and then there's jobs go away and then there's new jobs for the new opportunities Isn't that what it always is? It's not like- That's the way tech works. The PC revolution did not, you know, leave everybody jobless. It created millions of jobs!

1:22:08 Even when the automobile, oh the buggy drivers. Oh they're going to have to... What do we get? We get cab drivers and then Uber came along and then everybody was a cab driver it only gets better this is patently not true but there's the worry that it might just help the rich and then there's the risk that I want to talk about Help the rich?! Oh brother, he's a communist. But there is the worry that it might just help the rich and then there is the risk that I want to talk about. Wait hold on... We interrupt these clips too much. It's my worry? Yes That this will help the rich

1:22:48 Yeah, why is he worried about it helping the rich dude? I would do to help and judge God. Let's don't let them get helped by AI It's helping the rich somehow you call that he's a commie sanity He's a commie you called it he if you left Google there's the godfather of AI Do you not have any stock any options are you not rich? Well I'd hope he was. Maybe that's why he left? Or maybe the whole thing is a scam, these guys never even worked there! It should be that when we make things more productive when we greatly increase productivity it helps everybody but there's the worry that it might just help the rich. And then, there is the risk that I want to talk about many other people are talking about those other risks including risks of bias and discrimination so on... I want to talk about a different risk which is the risk of super intelligent AI taking over control from people Okay! Last clip let's hear about this Is there any turning back when you say that there will come a time when AI is more intelligent than us? Is there any coming back from that

1:23:54 I don't know. We're entering a time of great uncertainty where we're dealing with kinds of things that we've never dealt with before It's as if aliens have landed, but we didn't really take it in because they speak good English How should we think differently then about artificial intelligence? We're probably gonna get things more intelligent than us quite soon and they will be wonderful. They'll be able to do all sorts of things very easily that we find very difficult, so there's huge positive potential in these things but of course there are also huge negative possibilities and I think we should put more or less equal resources into developing AI to make it much more powerful and into figuring out how to keep it under control and how to minimize bad side effects of it

1:24:43 Congratulations on that great get PBS NewsHour. Do you understand what he's saying? Well, that told me absolutely nothing No of course it's nothing because the guy is a dope And what was his big invention? How can you be the godfather of AI, what did you do I mean I know what I did for podcasting why in fact and called the Godfather podcasting. I saw RSS said hey put an attachment in there and I said no and I can say it one in one paragraph yeah You can't because you're the guy that did it right so what this guy do and by the way well you know what You know what? Do I have to ask you, you know what. You're supposed say WHAT! Why are asking me do I KNOW WHAT?! Try it again! Hey guess what? What!? Let's look him up in the Wikipedia and see exactly what he did. What was his name Jack Kirby?

1:25:34 Jeffrey, Jeffrey with a GEOFREY. Oh the GEO. The GEO, Jeffrey Hinton! Hinton, Hinton here we go. Let's look him up. Hinton okay this is the way we do it on this show because you wear gas bags as it is that's right Okay, 76. He's a British Canadian. He worked on neural nets which is not AI. He worked for Google Brain. What was Google Brain? That was their AI! That was what Musk said. Sergey Brin stole everybody to work on Google Brain. Google Brain didn't win any chess match that was Deep Blue

1:26:21 So Hinton received the 2018 Turing Award, which is a big deal. With Yoshua Bengio and Yan LeCun for their work on deep learning they are sometimes referred to as the godfathers of AI in 2018? The whole trend began in the 80s. He popularized the back propagation algorithm for training multi-layer neural nets, which again... That's page rank isn't it? I don't know what back propagation is. Yeah back propagation is part of an algorithm that... Is a widely used algorithm for training feed forward artificial neural nets or other parametrized networks with differentiated nodes. It's an official... hold on let me read through the whole thing

1:27:11 Open it. He's a mathematician he gave his dad was a mathematician is a math guy you math got math dude all right, okay? Well impressive What's on it he has a home page what's this homepage of oh my god Always missing he's old enough to be the father or something yeah His homepage looks like it should have blink tags and One of those. And I generated it with Emacs! In fact, let me take a look... Did he? I bet you he built this with Emacs Is this his website on Toronto EDU? Yes yes oh that's probably the EDU... Toronto probably put this together. It was his college website. Looks like something he would have done himself with emacs. Lisp. Lisp. With lisp

1:28:02 All right, let's get off of that train. Dvorak dot org slash NA. There you go. So Lisp I have one more candidate who is running for president and after we play this clip it will be guaranteed he will never ever be president. I fear for his life in fact Oh, you're Kennedy? Yeah. But they won't get close enough that they have to do anything about it Well he opened up about bioweaponry and this is from his book but I've never heard it told this concisely It's important to think the American people maybe the people of the world need to hear this so you understand exactly where COVID came from So we went to war We passed The Patriot Act

1:28:48 and immediately started giving $2 billion a year to bioweapons development. The Pentagon didn't want to do it because they were nervous about the legality, because it was a death penalty to violate the Geneva Convention. You would have been committing war crime even if somebody told you that's okay... It wasn't! And so they funneled through DITRA and DARPA all of that money. Did you ask something? No, I'm not. I'm listening! I don't know what you're hearing. I thought you said hang on... And so they funneled it through DITRA and DARPA They funneled all of that money to NIH To NIAID which became the

1:29:37 primary spear tip of bio weapons development so Tony Fauci became the bioweapons are in 2001 His budget went up by 2.2 billion dollars He was personally given a 68% raise from the military That's why he was the highest paid individual in the federal government Because he was getting about this 68% bonus every year from the military But it meant that he could not stop and the thing the military wanted was gain-of-function studies where they could take wild viruses and turn them into bio weapons

1:30:15 And bioweapons development always includes vaccine development. Because unlike chemical weapons, with bioweapons there's always blowback It's called the boomerang effect If you give your enemy bubonic plague your guys are gonna get it first too They're gonna get it quickly So the only way you can deploy a bioweapon is if you have already developed a vaccine So the race is to develop a vaccine simultaneously with bio weapons and then you can deploy the bioweapons and your enemy will take a couple of years to develop the vaccine. And, you can inoculate all of your team. Um so in 2014 three of Tony Fauci's bugs escaped from federal labs. And their escapes were public and it caused a huge

1:31:10 There were Senate hearings and people were immensely upset. And 300 scientists wrote a petition to President Obama saying, you have to shut down Tony Fauci. He's going to cause a global pandemic. Then Obama declared a moratorium and told Fauci ordered Fauci to shut down the 18 studies he was then doing as I show in my book. He didn't do it. He instead took that science and he moved it offshore to the Wuhan lab into the Ukraine. And when he did that, he was not the only one who did it Tony Fauci spent about $29 million on gain-of-function science in Wuhan

1:32:01 But the CIA spent over $100 million. And the military spent about that much too, about 64 million and they, the CIA funneled the money most of it through USAID but they also, the CIA as we now know was also running this organization called The EcoHealth Alliance which Fauci was funneling his money through it was like a laundromat where they funneled federal money so that it was, so that their fingerprints would not be visible on the... Yeah no he's not going to be president. Wow isn't that great? Oh yeah that's unbelievable I do have a, i think this is from 2008. I don't know when this is from! I have no idea No not, no I'm saying I think what I have oh okay hello hello who's calling uh you know who

1:32:58 I listened to Mark Levin the other day. He's always going, hello! Nobody does that. You know you're one of the few people who still has an AM radio? I do. In your car...I do. That's it FM radio in the car too, you know what's interesting is on this clip coming up as dynamite but the am radio quality and the newer cars compared to I have an old Lexus and it's just they deteriorated it on purpose. Yeah, because if take my Lexus in to have it fixed and I get a loaner or I get a brand new one yeah I drive around I turn on the AM radio It sounds like shortwave from the 20s Well here is the problem The AM radio is no longer being put into cars

1:33:49 Because half the cars that people will be buying will be electric and there's so much gear now in these cars that you can't get away from the interference. You just hear that, dude! And no one wants to debug it. It can only be done with these temporary teeth, interestingly. All right well anyway so here's Fauci I think this is in 2008? Yes I see where he's slyly working on his scheme that was just outlined by Kennedy his scheme to get around this gain-of-function thing this may have been later or earlier but this was at some point where he had to...he knew the gain of function it was under pressure and this is and he was slyly working out a scheme

1:34:39 And here he is. has been now established to guide funding decisions on proposed research that might be anticipated to create, transfer or use enhanced potential pandemic pathogens. The program everybody has to have a neat little name to it this is called P3CO so if you hear about P3CO its Potential Pandemic Preparedness Care and Oversight

1:35:31 Now, why is this different from everything else we've been doing? It's different because remember the trouble we used to get in when someone would do an experiment They were submitted to a journal and just as it's getting ready to go out, everybody would start scrambling around. Should we be publishing? Should it not? So we decided to go upstream from that and talk about decisions that are made by government funded. Remember, we have no control over things that are not funded by the government but in government-funded activities to guide the funding decision before you actually do the experiment. I don't think this is going to be foolproof, things are gonna slip through but i think this is a much better approach than we've had before." That's the ghoul in Westminster! There was Tony Fauci with his cane and his hooded ghoulish outfit! It's unbelievable yeah it has been going on forever as Kennedy points out sorry

1:36:33 It's been going on forever, as Kennedy points out. And we can't seem to put a stop to it in fact is... and if it was punishable by death hey let's line some people up! Who's behind all this? Where does the punishable-by-death take place? There's like you know kind of saber rattling about this sort of thing We're just doing it openly Yeah well who's gonna you know punish anybody who's gonna punish anybody by death Collins is, you know they're probably buying homes in Argentina. I mean you're telling me that Lexus gives you a loaner car? Yeah When you bring that junker in and they say oh hi Mr. Dvorak boy nice to see this 20 year old vehicle again here's a loaner vehicle really yeah You just when you call into get your appointment you say need a loaner and they give you one But then gives you a new Lexus

1:37:33 Wow, well that's good service. Lexus is the best I mean it's pretty good that way. You know and its my third. Well since we're talking about big pharma in a way and obviously you know the Wuhan whatever this if it was real at all whatever this COVID-19 was they didn't have the vaccine ready that's for sure That whole thing what a huge scam let's not let's not let that happen to us again This is the latest out of big... Who knows what they're developing? Here's the latest out of Big Pharma Land crushing entire industries. After 40 years of helping people to shed pounds, Jenny Craig is shedding its entire workforce and going out of business. It's closing all of it nearly

1:38:23 500 weight loss centers in the US and Canada, and canceling all subscriptions coaching sessions food orders and sales. Weight loss services like Jenny Craig have been struggling to keep up with competition from prescription drugs like Ozempic. Bam! There you go. It's a plug for Ozempic Yeah but I believe it And remember Oprah's Weight Watchers also known as WW because they're rebranded They bought the telehealth company The Telemedicine Company that can prescribe this stuff right on the app, right over the phone. Ugh... Disgusting! Yeah well wait until that new one, the Eli Lilly one gets on the market and people start using it you're gonna see people just withering away right before your eyes I mean don't i look great? As their hair falls out as they have horrible dreams a flabby face Ozempic face This is not an outstanding product people please do not use this

1:39:19 I mean, I can't give medical advice but i don't think it's an outstanding product. It seems like something very bad. Oh oh oh! Even singing is just bad bad bad bad bad. Alright now one more thing we only have one break today because your excellence Cinco de Mayo on Cinco Decepto... No that wasn't at all. Somethings amiss You sent the newsletter out 20 times. Okay twice What happened? The newsletter seemed that I think there's a mail chimp they did something wrong. And i did a second send because the first send didn't trigger posting on Twitter which is supposed to do Oh, they uh... the algo got

1:40:09 But not I'll go the API API. Yeah, I access cuz they don't want to happen. Yeah down ranked and so I looked at the number of the number of Opens it was way off At about 730 said now something's a miss. So I sent a newsletter out a second time then I got some feedback Hey And, uh. Was that the feedback? One drunk guy and one stoner? It didn't get posted either! So you know either MailChimp's got to get its act together and if they can afford it I mean as far as those a company that starve into death um... Well you don't know i mean all these companies did use sub stack is so desperate their crowdfunding their next investment round but this is bad stuff is bad

1:41:03 And I thought that, for sure I thought Substack was wildly profitable. They're just not! How could you have people paying left and right? It must be—I'm telling you right now—it must be because they have to shell out at least 150 grand and this is 2008 prices it was a hundred or one hundred fifty grand a month to get whitelisted by Google and Outlook and a couple other, you know there's trusted companies that this is one of the biggest scams in Silicon Valley is emails to be trusted to get through. And I'll bet you they just can't afford it anymore and I do not think that MailChimp has that kind of money either. It's bad out there! You know email is...I have to sadly say email is broken for good. It's broken for good but we should just give it up

1:42:00 I mean, why don't you should just be calling everybody personally. Send me your phone numbers. Yeah. You can seriously it's broken even though I spoke to the CEO of start nine. He familiar with start nine? No. Start nine is a company and they are building um, it's like Umbral only they're taking it very, very seriously. Uh, self hosting at home And they've got, they're selling hardware. You can download their built-in operating system so not a bunch of dockers connected to each other but an actual operating system that you could even get it on Purism Hardware which is the open source hardware that was built supposedly with no spy things in there which is also quite popular amongst the OTG crowd

1:42:51 And they're replicating all these services, you know NextCloud for your Google stuff. You can host your own blog with Ghosts. They have ClearNet so it'll be actually available on an IP address with SSL. The idea is to supplant big tech and do it all at home. The one thing they just gave up on was email We can never make it work because even if we, we can set it all up and you can still use a separate SMTP provider but we still can't guarantee your email will arrive because big tech has just completely screwed that. Google in particular have screwed that up I've just made sure of no forget about it we control that we own it and they do since most people are so stupid they all fell for the Gmail thing oh it's free look Gmail is great

1:43:46 So email is broken forever. It's too bad it was kind of a cool protocol But I think you should but go back and publish it on RSS John the newsletter Yeah, yeah Yeah, he said I might as well do my review right now of Of the light phone oh yes, you finally got your light to phone I did Oh Hey everybody, I'm OTG once again! OTG off the grid haven't been that way for a while decided to give it another try.

1:44:35 Now that pretty much everything I use in my life is available on a computer and I find myself checking my phone too much even though i have a Graphene OS so you know supposedly not too much spyware and I splurge. Put it in a drawer! Well yeah but for when I'm driving, I don't want to take it with me when I go out to dinner with my wife I don't want to take it with me for a number of reasons one this I don't want to be looking at my phone And I only want someone to be able to reach me. Like, if you need to reach me, you can send me a text message or call me and that's pretty much all I need but the light phone... Why do you need to be reached? Well i'm an important person. What if podcastindex.org goes down? Yeah. Huh?! What if what if you need to say, eh the website hasn't updated with latest update! You know one of those emails? Hey, I am not comic strip blogger Okay but yeah I do get those emails from you right

1:45:32 Yeah, but it doesn't mean you have to act instantly. Well I think... You're not a surgeon on call! Well maybe I'm- Maybe have other hobbies that you don't know about that i need to be on call But okay do you want me to do the segment or just wanna be a dick? I mean you tell me I'd like both Okay let me do the segment and be a dick with little increments Not like let me get started at least 290- Go! Clip 5 go! Clip five?! $299. TheLightPhone.com. Isn't that a little steep? I think it's kind of on par with if you bought an older model Android phone on Amazon, new in the box... It's okay

1:46:23 It is in fact a very light version of Android, I believe that runs it. The thing John you will... actually I may have to send this as a Christmas gift for you. You will love this phone because it's smaller than a cigarette box in dimension, much thinner obviously. Remember the old Nokia phone? The smallest phone in the world way back in the day but fit right into the palm your hand You remember that? I thought it was Motorola, but yes. They're small phones that have been manufactured in the past very small so it's kind of like that and it has a an e-ink screen so it doesn't have you know... It's like a Kindle basically

1:47:07 And the only thing that you can do on it, which is more than I expected to be honest. Is a phone and imported my contacts perfectly as a calendar imported and syncs with with my current calendar system It'll work with anything including NextCloud. It has no alarm but you can set alarms. That's... beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep It has notes. I like the notes because notes you can write them or you can record them, and I've always liked doing that like a dictaphone. I have not tried it... Note to self! Yes exactly. I have not tried it yet but it has directions something called directions in it so does have some kind of navigation. No no navigation which is amazing.

1:47:59 A podcast player, which is surprisingly... I know you can't update anything on the phone. You have to do it on the website, on their dashboard to add podcasts but it works and will do Bluetooth with your headset It has a calculator, not unimportant. And finally it has a hotspot so you could bring your laptop if you really needed access and you didn't have it, you could turn into a hotspot. It is a wonderful little thing! I mean...and it has a QWERTY keyboard if you need to reply back to a text You can also—I don't know what service is providing this but you can also do voice-to-text doesn't sound very OTG to me

1:48:42 But I have to say, John. This is...I've only had it for a day and arrived yesterday. I'm loving going out with the dog. There's nothing that's very light. It almost feels in my pocket but can listen to my favorite podcast which is DH Unplugged of course It also has a music player, but I don't listen to music on anything on my phone. So I don't care too much about it and that's it! And that's all that it does. It doesn't do images, it doesn't have a camera... If someone sends you text messages with an emoji the emojis will show up You cannot send any texts back with emojis. That's it! And I think this is perfect. This is what all kids should have. That's mainly why I reviewed it. This is what your kid should have

1:49:27 Your kid can do some stuff that's educational and good and nothing else. And when they come home, yeah they can do stuff on the computer I'm very impressed by this device. I don't know about battery life yet we'll see... I mean that's a... let me see.. I've had it unplugged today and its at 98% but haven't done anything with it The light phone! I think you'll enjoy it So you like so much your gonna send to me? No im going buy new one for you Yeah, I tell ya right now not bother Why? It's too much money What do you mean it's too much? What would the price point be that is perfect for you? $99 I think would be okay. 49 would be better So, you'd rather have your... take your clunky distracting Android phone with you when you leave the house

1:50:23 I don't take the phone with me when i leave the house. Oh well, if I'm going to Chicago I might take a phone... When you drive around you don't take a phone in case something happens? No! I do not. I know how to get around and places are... What if there's an emergency what if what if you're like what would like help I've fallen I can't get up yeah well then that hasn't happened okay all right your special everybody it's special I'm like this is This is the way the world used to be. I know! Nobody went around in the 60s and 70s with a phone, worried to death. Yeah, some people carried around a pager because they felt so important that they had to get beep-beep-beep. Oh my wife got home and now I know my wife got... who cares?

1:51:08 Yeah, I know but your wife lives in a different state so yeah you don't care. Well even so i'm just saying there's no...I don't need a phone with me 24-7 if not I'm not a surgeon on call Do you not have a little black book for your babes? No Oh okay did you used to at one point did you have a little black book? I don't use little books, it would be a red book And this is why he's the buzzkill, ladies and gentlemen. And with that I'd like to thank you for your courage in the morning to you The man who put the sea in the great clickbait Ladies and gentlemen say hello To my friend on the other end who never takes a phone anywhere Mr John C DeVore Good morning to you Mr Adam Corrina One of our six seat boots on the ground Feet in the air subs in the water And all the dames and knights out there In the morning to the trolls in the troll room Who do have phones I think they totally should

1:52:05 Now we're talking, 2884. And even two hours into the show that's not too bad for a troll room count Hello trolls! The trolls hang out in the troll room for one reason and one reason only to be counted and then to leave when the best stuff comes That's the donation segment where you have the interviews We get clips of the day We also thank people, we talk about people Probably talking about you when you leave ya trolls Let me see how many left right away Oh, only... oh interesting. Yeah it's because you've been threatening them time and time again Only ten left! They're afraid to leave. Oh yeah so you get bad karma that's why I forgot to mention that part The trolls are in the troll room You can participate in their joyous antics by going to TrollRoom.io where you can listen to the stream live you can log into the chatroom uh you have to register if you want a troll but that's pretty simple

1:53:00 But then, you know the real recommendation if you don't have a light phone and you have like a grown-up phone is go to podcastapps.com get...and man there's more apps coming! Get an app that does the live stream Podverse, CurioCaster, Podcast Addict, Podcast Guru been a big one coming on board pretty soon it'll do this live stuff but you can import all your existing podcasts into it When we go live or any podcast goes live, you get the badge signal to remind you. Oh yeah! The boys are live! You tap on it... Boom! You get the livestream and you get your troll room and everything all in one go. It's a perfect thing Or if you're just on your computer at the office, you can check in on noagendasocial.com And follow me Adam at noagendasocial.com John C. Dvorak at noagendasocial.com

1:53:51 You know, that's our social network without algos. People seem to like it and you can follow from anywhere on the Fettyverse if your Mastodon instance has not blocked us I think you can pretty much always subscribe to us but may not get stuff in your Fetty feed But who cares? You just want to follow us We're your guides in all of this Yeah we're freeze Yes, Freeze Peach indeed Well since you mentioned it, I do have a clip I want to drop in. Oh! You're talking about podcasts, podcasts apps, podcasts this by another what's wrong with these podcasters? Whoa whoa whoa okay your buddy here this is a house ad on an iHeartRadio produced podcast and the next thing you know there's a plug for iHeartRadio that is kind of

1:54:44 House ad, you know I don't know why at the beginning some of these podcasts. I was listening to somebody's do some of these podcasts Don't get started for five or six minutes Oh, but what is it? What did they start with ads yeah that would delay this thing in these these I don't know in these networks, is to run two or three or four ads before the podcast and then the guy's introduction takes forever. You're six minutes in! Don't you just fast forward like everybody else? No, I want to hear these ads especially this one from your old buddy My old buddy who?! Bob Pittman Bob Pittman was never my... he was on his way out In fact, I met Bob Pittman once

1:55:25 The weekend I got to New York and, uh... And I got a call. Yeah! Bob Pittman who was the president of MTV Networks. Just before he left and Tom Freston came in. Yeah Bob wants to invite you to go to John Cougar Mellencamp So we went in Pittman's limo To see John Cougar Mellencamp That was the only encounter that I had with Bob Pittman Wow it was in a limo? Remember those? In a hinky-panky? Remember the stretch limos? Oh yeah I'm Bob Fitman, Chairman and CEO of iHeartMedia. Looking for a master's guide to the marketing world? From decades of experience starting with building MTV, I've found it comes down to two things math and magic you'll hear unlikely visionaries from the frontiers of marketing share how they've used data, the math, and creativity, the magic

1:56:13 to launch their biggest, most impossible sounding ideas. Listen to the new season of Math & Magic Stories from the Frontiers in Marketing on our very own iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Going on the show, it sounds boring to me. There's nothing worse than a marketing guy. Hey he created MTV! You heard here? That's what he said. Well while he has six minutes of ads and opening we don't do that. We get right to the show with our witty banter

1:56:59 But you know, we have a little opening and we're right into your shed. We'll drop your ride in which is quite jarring for most people and then we don't have ads. We don't want to have Bob Pittman advert that would be horrible if I had to listen to Bob. I mean all respect isn't it? Bob Pittman before we started or whatever house out it would be why are they running house ads are they not making any money over there? Hello. Yeah hello. I heard radio soon to be out of business No, we run value for value. That means time talent treasure whatever you want to give back to us for the impeccable and voluminous value We provide we gladly accept it. We do need the treasure part a little short today I'll be honest about it But before we do that let's go to our art credit and thank the artists for episode 1552 aptly titled old trout

1:57:54 I don't think we have to explain to everybody why we titled it that. And would you believe it? Comic Strip blogger came in with the winning art piece and check this out, It wasn't even AI! Is that what he said? Yep That's what he said He was surprised that this one, he was just messing around with some ideas. He took no AI cre- but we when we saw this art and let's...this is a an angry salt shaker very cute piece We both looked at this and went that's AI That's against our rules and regs Well I suppose it's your rule not mine True

1:58:44 And we said, no. We can't do that and then you said come on let's do it come on let's do it Well I said come on lets do it but I said we violate our own rules all the time. And we also thought it would be fun for Commissary Blogger to be able to rag on him It was a cute piece! Very good piece But we thought that would be fun for him to say I gotcha AI and...no The irony is this not AI? That's funny Let's see. Now there were a lot of submissions for which we're always very appreciative you can follow along at noagendaartgenerator.com or get one of those handy dandy new podcast apps at podcastapps.com There was a bunch of funny old trout gags including the one of the Old Trout walking by Josh

1:59:29 I don't know, but Kenhold or whatever his name. I can't pronounce his last name. Kornold. He did the... Kornold. Yeah. With a walker? It was that it was a little it was okay. I mean you thought it was very funny. You liked it. I like the one where Camilla's face was literally a trout face. I thought that was gross! Yeah, I know he did. A lot of trout jokes and there were a lot of shaker jokes too A lot of shaker jokes, but joke artwork I should say. We both looked at the No Agenda Gardener's Balm

2:00:06 That was a nice piece by Nico Sine, but it was a little small. Nico? A little small... The Curry Dvorak was too small that's the main problem our name has to be pretty big and then you particularly liked the writer strike again which is done in the theme of Star Wars Yes so the Empire Strikes Back It was all off for me I mean their logo was great Well you hate Star Wars, Star Trek all that stuff Oh! I gotta tell you something So, but there's not Star Wars. But my buddy Dave over at podcastindex.org he is a big Trekkie fan and so he goes to the Star Trek convention as it came to Birmingham Alabama and he had signed up for For a selfie with William Shatner and and some of the crew members from I don't know which Deep Space Nine or I don't know which one

2:00:56 And because he's really excited. I mean, he was something I'm going to get a selfie with Shatner and I think you had to pay like 120 bucks for it or something so you know really yeah if You know what? He got so basically there's a stage that the stand next to a shattered No need no Shatner sitting in it like on a box or at a chair on stage and then there's Dave On the other side of a clear plexiglass divider Wow, I want to see that picture. It's really sad! 120 bucks and Shatner just sitting there like uh... And the plexiglass dividers so none of the Trekkies get any cooties on him. That is- I've lost respect for Shatner now. That's just a money grab. You wanna take a picture with the Podfather? Free! He can slobber all over me. I'm no douche. We go to your meetup

2:01:57 That's pretty bad. It's very bad, it's just very disappointing so we looked at that I want to see that picture. Yeah i'll send it to you yeah it's pretty messed up uh what else did we have no the too many of the egg? I thought the egg was cool you didn't like the egg No I did like the egg but I didn't think it was gonna Show worthy. It's just cute, it was a cute egg. Yeah with kind of my teeth that's what my teeth look like now. It looks to me like Brian Stelter to me Wow you didn't mention that when we were looking at it

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2:04:23 It's a collective, so you pay I think it was like $250 a month. And that goes into a general fund. And then when you need to get some help or anything over $500, you contact them. The first thing they do is they negotiate with your doctor as we know doctors hospitals all take 30 cents on the dollar because that gives them the same amount of money they get from the insurance companies without all the paperwork and hassle and then that payment comes out of the pool. An if it's extraordinarily expensive

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2:05:46 You have Christian health ministries, they do this and you can only get invited through your pastor or something like that. But yeah people are walking away from... we had to! We were like $2500 a month for the two of us because we're older and we're not old enough to get all the government goodies Fun word. Yeah, you sound flummoxed and flabbergasted. They're saying that all hell is gonna break loose and you're gonna need a bitcoin. You've got karma.

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2:15:39 So this guy, you know he's kind of a mean guy too. He is funny mean but she doesn't have a bone of meanness in her She really doesn't she really doesn't yeah But I mean but isn't it just for a week? I don't think it's uh, I don't think it's but they made It sound like she's gonna take the spot. Did I make it sound like that? No, they did the trades Oh Okay The trades there you go $200 from James Lawler, who's in Oklahoma City. Oklahoma sir? Jimmy James here! And a whole bunch of hashtags. Shows have been amazing as of late the best podcast in the universe Oh and our next OOEY-HOOEY meetup is this Saturday and I hear Adam may make it JK God bless thank you for your courage JK indeed now I'm going to the What I'm gonna finally go to the Austin meet up again

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2:22:49 I mean, that guy's got chops. Yeah! We need more stuff from him And I thought he had done this next one which i will pull out of the closet because we talked about her but he did not. I don't know who did this one Such a good one Yeah, the Kaylee jingle. What? Isn't that Kaylee? Yes! It's the Kaylee jingle. Yeah it's the Kaylee jingle...goes on for quite a while. Well she has got a show now so.. They can use this as an opening- as their show tune. Just A Thought Thank you all very much for supporting episode number 1553 of No Agenda Our formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth

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2:25:56 Indeed, like a party. Here's what's going on We have the Build Snohomish Back Better meetup which kicks off in a couple hours 3 o'clock in Snohomish Washington Sound to Summit Brewing is where you want to be. And on Thursday, our next show day... Look! Here's the Real Deal Meetup no joke 630 at Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver Colorado and coming up in the next week we've got St Louis Missouri Oklahoma City Oklahoma and then of course Austin Sunset Valley Texas on Saturday Arnold Annapolis area

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2:27:14 I'm this is a good question. I mean during COVID people love their moms, but now they hate their mom again. It's very odd what the hell is going on? Think about how we now have about a 50-50 split between men and women listening to this podcast And I would have to say a lot of them are moms This is a great way moms Love it moms love being paid attention to by the dynamic duo known as crackpot and buzzkill So get your donation in for Mom Just trying to get everybody all excited about it. NoAgentAndMeetups.com is where you can find all the meet-ups, find one near you if you can! Why don't you start one yourself? It's easy! noagentandmeetups.com Guaranteed a party! Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days You wanna be where you want to be Triggered on hell's flame You wanna be where everybody feels the same

2:28:16 I have three ISOs. Oh, you have three ISOs too? I see. It's a balanced diet. Very balanced. Shall I play mine first then? Yeah please! Yeaaahhh... That's one. I find it interesting man! Kind of like the whoopee. I think they're pretty darn good. There ya go Okay, well let's go with I've got three. Let's start with rats okay? I hate rats Okay, don't tell you to go ahead do better do better by saving the best for last no doubt here We go and we need to do better yeah

2:28:59 If this show was lousy, we could play that one. Yeah but it wasn't lousy And then of course there's this one which is famous the world over now and remember please mind the gap yeah I think we're good to go i just saw the title like if its if the quality is good it's a winner definite winner and by the way it wasn't easy to find a good quality version right because people were just recording in the subway stations This about that was Prince Charles for anyone who didn't get a clue about that Yes yes very good We didn't talk about it on the last show, I do want to mention it. Now all of a sudden apparently May 11th they end the vaccine requirement for entry into the United States. Are we taking bets on whether they extend it? No they won't because while everyone's all jacked and jitty myself included because now I can fly my daughter and her fiancé over

2:29:52 since he neither of them are vaccinated. Yeah, but she doesn't she's an American citizen correct? Correct! But you know that she wants to bring her man. She could have ditched him We're not going take relationship advice from you okay But unfortunately what this really is all about is Title 42 being dropped and that means we will have an influx of 10, at minimum 10 thousand migrants coming across the border flooding our border towns mainly of Texas. It's going to be an absolute mess it's gonna be... You know that's just a supposition! No it's going to happen

2:30:34 They're already lining up. They're ready May 11th, and then boom they're in because title 11th what a title 42 was used with kovat as a as a Kind of a what do you call it? That's the word I'm looking for. Deterrence is the word you're looking for? Yeah, maybe deterrence to turn people away while you don't have your vaccinations get out of here but now that's going away and so the Biden administration i'm sure they wanted to still leave the air restriction in place for international travelers but they couldn't quite sell that and you know that Jabrowery guy can come in and play the US Open whatever his name is Bojavovic

2:31:17 You know, but it's sad. It's not... this is problematic but I do have a clip kind of explains and this is another C-SPAN clip This is an entrepreneur, business owner who now these are H2A immigrants which is a temporary, you can get a temporary seasonal visa. Which I think many are taking advantage of to come in the reason why he's hiring these employees as employees is perhaps interesting to some may be surprising. Now John really quickly Why are you having to use these workers? Why can't you use American born workers to do the same work

2:32:04 I would give nothing more than to let that happen. We have to advertise these jobs before we can submit our petition, and no one calls. High school kids will not do these jobs. How much are you paying for those jobs? What's the going rate right now? $15 to $17 an hour, but I would much rather pay a guy down the street to come work for me. every day for $20 an hour instead of paying the H2A people to come from Mexico for $20 an hour. But I do, those people that do come from Mexico are extremely hard workers and most of the time they're extremely good people. Now this is a mystery to me and I was talking to Cole from KNC Cattle because what we're trying to do here is because you know instead of paying for shipping

2:33:06 On beef that we order from K&C Cattle to come from Luling, which is on the east side of Austin. We do one order with like eight nine ten families they come out with a van they deliver it to our house you know we collect all the checks and everything and it's kind of like a community thing everyone comes by to get their beef and everyone orders lot more everybody wins basically And so they were really hustling around and they were going to be a little bit late on delivery day. And Cole calls me, he says I'm sorry man we're just going nuts two weeks ago I hired 10 people today only two of them showed up they don't even call and that just doesn't feel like working anymore there's done with the job but it just don't even come back in what are these people living off is their government money i'm not aware of? There must be probably yes That's nuts

2:34:00 You have to look into it, find out. Maybe there is maybe this government money." He says yeah but he's but they must be getting some government money I do not understand it It's maddening. I don't have no transition clips or anything to bring in after that one Well actually I can transition well from the border stuff just something I want to mention because there's almost no discussion of it But the Supreme Court is you know certainly Republicans on the Supreme Court are continuously under attack For all kinds, Clarence Thomas would be the number one. But there's a decision that the Supreme Court has decided to take on and it is regarding the Chevron deference and I wanted to bring that up so people can keep their eye on if you find a clip or find an article about it. Are you familiar with the Chevron deference? No. So Chevron deference is ruling for 40 years basically has said

2:35:02 Any agency in the United States can interpret law as written by Congress kind of the way they want to do it. And this has to do with Chevron from a long time ago, and that does...they call it The Chevron Doctrine or The Chevron Deference and I put it in show notes if you wanna read up on that case from 40 years ago. Now, of course, the whole reason we have this border problem is because the Border Patrol, CPB and Department of Homeland Security they are interpreting the law the way that's handy for them. That works out for them politically or whatever reason they have for letting many people into the country illegally and letting them catch and release all of that is because they can interpret law the way they want

2:35:53 If the Supreme Court takes on this case, well they're going to take it on but if they overrule the Chevron doctrine that would mean that whenever you can bring a lawsuit against any agency to say hey you are not adhering to the law and then there's the federal court and it can go all up the Supreme Court will then evaluate if there is ambiguity in the law, it will either have to be redefined by Congress or the agency will have to actually adhere to the law. And I think this harassment of the Supreme Court may have something to do with this. It's really not discussed. No one wants to talk about this because that could really change things. Just think about how all these agencies overstep their boundaries everywhere

2:36:44 Well, that's kind of interesting. I wish we had some discussion about it with somebody. There is nothing! There are no clips... there are some articles... The Hill has an article on it but thats about... They're useless. Right? And thats about it Here, nearly four decades of judicial experience with Chevron have demonstrated that courts are incapable of applying its two-step Chevron framework in a consistent manner. So you know and this case is actually being brought by the Supreme Court is taking on as Herring Fishing Company. A herring fishing company Loper Bright Enterprises I think they're in where...I don't know whether there's a ruling

2:37:31 from the National Marine Fisheries Service regulation that herring fishing boats have to allow a federal observer aboard every ship to oversee operations and compensate them for their time. And the company is saying this regulation significantly decreases their profit, and so that's the case of the Supreme Court is taking on. So yeah I think it was a big deal but... We'll find out soon enough I'll try to look into it, see what's going on. I have some miscellaneous clips. We talked about emotional learning and how it improves everything. You know, we talk about this on the show all the time. SEL, social-emotional learning yes. Yeah so important because it makes people... Here play Nations Report card that is the results

2:38:27 card. Surprise, surprise. I was just going to mention that you were still falling apart thanks to social and emotional... not doing anything? No no Then i got this one which is kind of school related which is the teacher that's suing the school in Texas I think mm-hmm no no I'm sorry Riverside County California Texas teachers sue schools over trans and not telling parents she thought you should be able to tell her parents if the kid wants to be called Nancy

2:39:18 A former California teacher is suing her district over claims she was fired for refusing to hide kids' gender transitions from their parents. Jessica Tapia says she was discriminated against for her christened beliefs and warns that what happened to her can happen to anybody. Jessica Tapia joins us along with Vice President and legal counsel for Advocates For Faith And Freedom, Mariah Gundere. Thanks so much for joining the program. Why did you decide to inform the parents? Yeah, great question! Wow and the apprehension of why would you tell the parents?! Oh my God... We're not going through all I've received but they put a number of parent notes

2:40:11 in the show notes under trans Maoism which we are still under attack by in the United States is one of the only, one of the only countries left. I did want to share this one And all these are anonymous. Our first, our homeschooled daughter was home school during COVID which you mentioned John was convinced she hated her body and was a boy at 12 in 2020 Surprise surprise! Our first signal was our daughter twelve of the time saying she wanted to be a boy and use he him pronouns on a Minecraft home-school server She had been on for several years and the Midwest faith based principal giving me a call

2:40:52 Thank you, Principal. My wife and I spoke to my daughter and she denied it was anything special We didn't dismiss it as role-playing which happened often on this server But several weeks later, I was looking through the logs on our personal Minecraft server Good on you parents for knowing what you're doing And found a King Eric user logged in I was asking my son if he invited them or do i need to implement a whitelist. My daughter ran up and said no, no that's me! My wife looked through her electronics and found out she was talking with a group of San Diego kids on scratch dot MIT dot edu... MIT dot edu? A visual programming site for kids that spun off from the Minecraft home server- homeschool server And they were encouraged not to tell us and parents don't understand

2:41:40 So, we cut off her electronics for summer. Told her to never talk with the group again I told her that I loved her either way but it was too soon for her to know who she would fall in love with as she was just starting puberty Today, she falls into tears when it rarely comes up and says that she wanted to believe it since she was getting so much attention and support from that group She recently learned how to sew and is making anime-style dresses for herself, and getting phone numbers from boys at homeschool dances. So I'm hopeful she will find her true self! No Agenda Show is nailing it per usual. Thanks for your courage And so with all this so-called anti trans legislation, Rachel Maddow is a shining example of exactly what you should not be doing when there's division over. And I want to make this clear we should use the word children and not kids someone made a point about this that kids it kind of diminishes what they are

2:42:43 It's slang, you know kid young goat. You know young person I mean just children call them children and and I also have you heard people call their children kiddos Yeah a JC and Jesse use this term? I do not like all the time And I always call him out on it said kiddo. I don't like what's kiddo I don't like it. It's your child! Very common, you hear it a lot in videos too. Kiddos... Older millennials use it a lot. Kiddos. Well, we- I got my kiddo here. Why does that hit me deep in my soul that I hate when they do that? What is that? I have no idea why its bugging you. It just bugs because I dont like the sound of it. No there ya go, I dont like the sound of it. Perfect

2:43:32 I just don't like it. Sounds like a breakfast cereal, kiddos! Hey have your kiddos! Here's Rachel Maddow talking about people who want to put legislation into place like Florida that will inform children if they learn at school or at least they should have the option but come on you should be able informing parents If you're going to be offering some kind of sex change route with a therapist, the parents need to know. What are you then? You're a Nazi! If you are not excited by the little Nazis blooming like stinkweed everywhere these days it might give you some pause right if you realize that the reason these Nazis keep turning out The reason these Nazis are out there in the streets and on the street corners and in these public parks

2:44:18 The reason they keep doing this stuff is that they're cheering on what you've been doing in your day job. That might give you pause, right? If you started to notice what all these Nazis were doing and realize that what they were doing was pulling for yourself. So there's a National Socialist Party in the United States Nazi party but you know Nazis were a party it was a political party which she might be referring to are fascists now she's talking about moms for liberty Oh, they're literally Nazis? No. Moms for Liberty are moms who don't want certain books in school Probably because...for good reason is my guess Yeah well then you because you're now book burning even though there's no books being burned therefore You are a Nazi! You see that's how these people think This by the way shows me Rachel Maddow has a mental issue

2:45:13 This is mental. That might give you pause, right? If you started to notice what all these Nazis were doing and realized that what they were doing was pulling for your side in Ohio for example it might give you pause if you were an Ohio Republican And you've been working on legislation to attack queer people and trans people while at the same time repeat What legislation attacks queer people and what are queer people You've been working on legislation to attack queer people and trans people While at the same time, repeatedly these guys are the crowds who are turning out to bolster that message. To make sure that the harassment and intimidation of queer and trans people has not just the imprimatur of state law but also a Nazi flair.

2:46:05 Oh, I am on the topic of mentally ill. That's a segue for me to play couple TikTok clips. Yeah! Now you're talking everybody! Talk. Talk. TikTok Yeah! TikTok it is. Great way to end a day Let's go with this one, this is the bitch clip Hi I just want to say that I don't use they them pronouns You use they them pronouns for me I also am not a they and I'm not a them And I'm not a they them My pronouns are they them If you need a noun to use for me Just call me a bitch Okay

2:46:42 That's not too bad. I like that one good with that no problem deal You know the other one which is not about this topic anymore the trans topic it is about The other topic which we didn't touch on today, which is white supremacy? Oh, that's so out oh No yeah White supremacy is oh, that's yesterdays news. It's like like racist you know there's no more black lives matter it's all anti-trans Nazi well we'll get back to the trans but I want this might as well play This is that did you know three meals a day as a reflection of white supremacy? Oh No doubt as long as his wonder bread course bag dinner Yes So what we have here somebody first comes on says something in this other world is Transitions to another woman who was so happy that this was being said

2:47:30 that the three meals a day thing, breakfast lunch and dinner is from colonialism. I've been waiting for this day continuously if you don't know me please go check out my page i talk about diet culture and its roots in white supremacy racism and just whiteness of the food system as a whole and this person really articulated it well also thank you for sharing this book What is so amazing about that book and also what's being discussed in that video, is it really articulates how whiteness has infiltrated the way we view and address our hunger cues because we are trying to adhere to very strict schedules that our bodies didn't... you know they were not created to immediately adhere to. Like you don't come out of the womb being like I will only eat breakfast lunch and dinner society tells you only eat breakfast lunch and dinner

2:48:20 And like, think about how many times people don't eat after dinner even though they're still hungry because it's like well I can't eat after dinner that'd be bad. Check out some more of my videos on this What is she talking about? Well it's a construct you know everything is money is a construct sexuality and gender as a construct these people are they're on drugs they're on the wrong bad drugs pharma drugs this is not just that's fine That's what TikTok is good for! I love that...I'm happy for people Well, let's go to Real News and play this because I want to get this out of here which is the end of gas in NYC. Yeah... I was... The what?

2:49:04 The end of gas. Oh, the end of gas I got it! New York has passed the country's first statewide ban on using natural gas in most new buildings and BRS Jeff Brady reports that the state joins a growing trend mostly among cities to ban new gas hookups to meet climate change goals The New York Statewide Ban is focused on reducing climate warming emissions from buildings Starting in 2026 most new building under 7 stories will have to use electricity for energy needs such as space and water heating and cooking New York Governor Kathy Hochul says commercial kitchens are exempt from the requirement and she told Fox 5 in New York existing buildings are exempt but for new construction... Why not put in what's going to be long-term less expensive for you and better for your environment and for your kids' futures? Well I wish I had known you were gonna play this because then I would have played my supercut just before this.

2:49:55 Because this, gas stoves replacing being kicked out of your home? That was a conspiracy theory. You might think that the US government is coming for your gas stove! That is a new and absolutely ridiculous one. Turns out Fox News and Republicans are up in arms because they say the government is coming to take your stoves What Republicans are saying is damn it they're gonna take your gas stove. GOP have been stoking a ridiculous new freakout about gas stoves no one is taking your gas stove the right-wing freak out over the use of gas stoves is merely the latest in a long series of made up culture war battles designed to enrage and rile up their right wing and paranoid base publicans are prone to conspiracy theories whether

2:50:40 you know, the kooky like JFK Jr. is coming back from the dead to run with Trump or um the sort of duplicitous like this administration's coming to take away your gas stoves Republicans have turned a government warning about your health into a lie about Democrats trying to take your stoves You get some bureaucrat saying something that has no power and then suddenly You have Rhonda Sanders, I'm going to protect your gas. Everybody's been talking about gas stoves, it's so stupid. People were tweeting at me this weekend that Rhonda Sanders is going to protect my gas stove but I don't seem to be buying... the

2:51:38 addicted to this culture of lies and conspiracy theories that they have fomented, right? And so they know that there is a substantial number of people in the country in their party who they can convince that this is true. and that it will enrage those people. This is the economy of, and the culture of conspiracy theories right? There are... I'm certain you and i will be able to drive through parts of the country 10 years from now And people will be saying do you remember back when Joe Biden was in office they tried to take away our gas stoves? I think that kind of sums up the media Wow! Great clip By the way

2:52:21 Within that clip, that one woman said oh and the conspiracy theorists think that JFK... Oh she says JFK okay. Yeah junior junior but here's the 30-second payoff which is kind of the same as what you just played New York City is moving to snuff out gas stoves New York becoming the first state to ban natural gas and other fossil fuels in most new buildings including gas stoves The new law requires all electric heating and cooking in new buildings shorter than seven stories by 2026. Governor Kathy Hochul and the Democratic-controlled state legislature approved a bill on Tuesday prohibiting the use of fossil fuels for heating and cooking. The law is the first statewide ban in the nation, and goes into effect in 2026 for buildings under seven stories

2:53:09 Don't you just love it? To me, that is the epitome of what cable news — well it's not even all cable news. Some of its mainstream network news has become political bullshit and we have to sit here and... It's so bad that this is the end of the show! We gotta throw this in there Unbelievable. I'm gonna add one more to it because i'm delighted to see this is part of wokeism which is trans Maoism, which is communism, which is Marxism they set us up started destroy the American family black families first get the men out of the home we have baby mama culture good job everybody good job Kardashians so we've done that now now we've got to ruin everyone else ruin your children your kiddos

2:53:59 But thank goodness, when it comes to beer Americans just that's where we draw the line for some reason. Especially Bud Light I got a dude named Ben here There are some consequences! I'm a network engineer at Redacted and do support for Redacted. I got a ticket for a major outage from Bud Light. I sent them chasing their tails Whoops And then this unfortunate news. This is your morning rundown I'm Kai Martin today is Friday it's May 5th 2023 and here's what's happening right now several gay bars in Chicago announced they will stop selling Anheuser-Busch products this is in response to how the company is handling backlash from a Bud Light campaign with a transgender influencer some conservatives began boycotting the brand a month ago when Dylan Mulvaney created a sponsored post promoting Bud Light, The company released a statement

2:54:51 statement that made no direct mention of the LGBTQ community and the marketing executives behind the campaign with Mulvaney were put on leave. Then yesterday, the Belgian-American conglomerate's CEO minimized the company's involvement in a sponsored post with the influencer saying quote it wasn't a campaign. In response to that, some of Chicago's largest gay bars now say they will no longer sell Anheuser-Busch products both Sidetrack in North Halsted as well as Two Bears Hospitality Group which operates several establishments in uptown say they will stop selling any beer made by the company including the local brand Goose

2:55:27 Goose River, I think it is. So this will go down as... This will be Marketing 101, Crisis Management 101 What a huge fiasco! Not only did you alienate your core user of your product but you alienated the people you were pandering to! It's double whammy! It's a classic! It is so beautiful to see this and this will end The influencer gig, this is going to end. Marketing managers are peeing their pants right now. Uh-oh! This can really go wrong and this will in part take down the importance of social media. This is a seminal moment... You're such an optimist about stuff like that. Yes, I'm gonna go stroke my light phone. I am an optimist. That's right

2:56:24 You're an... I'm an optimist and you're a don't-say realist. Duh! I'm a don't say realist Hi everybody, thank you very much for checking us out once again Great news, you do not want to leave the troll room You wanna stay on because up next we have Nick The Rat with the interview with the one and only Mimi Dvorak with her Too Many Eggs book toomanyeggs.com haven't even promoted it yet this show So make sure you stay tuned for that. End of show mixes from Dee's Laughs, Omega Man and Phantomville we appreciate that! And coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region number 6 in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where I remain I'm John C. Dvorak Come back with us come back to us come see us again y'all

2:57:19 on Thursday with another episode of Your Best Podcast in the Universe. Please remember us, we can use the help at Dvorak.org slash NA Until then Adios Mofos! Ahooy Hooy and Sigh! So if I seem distracted right now, I am completely distracted by the ramifications of this. This is a big deal! It's about say he not she... You're part of the problem now. This is not even about the pronouns. The pronouns are what confused parents to start with. Okay? Just stay with the story and don't get distracted. Don't get distracted. Biden's pullout in Afghanistan

2:58:10 Doom scrolling, oh doomsday plans Quiet quitting even the Taliban OG he's the latest low level age 20 something to blow the whistle demonize and put it aside I'm blessing out with thistle Leaking pentagon papers you're in a private discord chat room But when it gets overwhelming I just think about Jordan Peterson saying clean your Just wait, just I'm gonna interrupt this moment because of that pronoun thing.

2:59:06 And the restrict act John DeVore Act Calling bullcrap on valet and cash This whole thing is bull crap Influencers On Instagram Algorithms I mean it's all a sham And then these influencers look into the camera with shit eating grins Nike and Bud Light ain't right for Putin now campaign ads again With this Dylan Mulvaney clown targeting confused children But these university kids nowadays are grubbing for they what? Grubbing for their

2:59:44 Grubbing for the grades can't debate a different viewpoint without being sent into a rage Just relax and smoke a joint throw in the fit not looking to fit and interrupting speakers on stage. They can't behave Activists spitting in the face of your customer base But light has been in decline for a really, really long time. Eric Adams and the New York robot cop do a transmowel with society is a multi-level plot. How long did you say SpaceX was building rockets? I sure hope Elon Musk and his crew know what they're doing. If not, I got my butt strapped to one million tons of TNT! This is your captain speaking We will be cruising at an altitude of 1 billion feet Clear weather expected today

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