Episode 1552 · Thursday, 4 May 2023

Old Trout

A nationwide writers strike hits Hollywood studios while digital media giants crumble, as international tensions flare over a mysterious drone explosion at the Kremlin.

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The Writers Guild of America initiated a strike against major Hollywood studios, marking the first such action in fifteen years as writers demand better pay and streaming residuals from Netflix and Amazon. While industry analysts suggest studios have enough completed content to withstand a year-long work stoppage, the rise of TikTok and AI-generated scripts from tools like ChatGPT has fundamentally shifted the entertainment revenue landscape. This labor dispute coincides with the collapse of Vice Media, which is facing bankruptcy after raising over $900 million but failing to establish a sustainable digital business model.

In the geopolitical arena, Russia accused Ukraine of an assassination attempt on Vladimir Putin following a drone explosion over the Kremlin, a claim Secretary of State Antony Blinken dismissed with skepticism. Meanwhile, Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte welcomed President Volodymyr Zelensky to The Hague, utilizing State Department rhetoric regarding the Rule of Law to frame the ongoing conflict. Domestically, Senators Chuck Grassley and James Comer issued a subpoena to the FBI for documents allegedly detailing a criminal scheme involving Joe Biden and a foreign national. Simultaneously, Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm proposed transitioning the entire U.S. military fleet to electric vehicles by 2030, despite the lack of charging infrastructure in combat zones.

NPR attempted a public rehabilitation of Queen Camilla, featuring author Tina Brown who described the royal as earthy catnip to men despite her historical reputation as the Old Trout. The British Home Office issued stern warnings to anti-monarchy protesters ahead of the coronation of King Charles III, threatening imprisonment for disruptive activities. In the world of rock, Twisted Sister frontman Dee Snider faced a cancellation from San Francisco Pride after supporting Paul Stanley of KISS in his criticism of pediatric gender-affirming care.


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CHAPTER 01 / 45 Discussion

Hollywood Writers Guild Strike and Streaming Economics

The Writers Guild of America (WGA) initiated a strike against major Hollywood studios, marking the first such action in 15 years. Writers are demanding better pay, mandatory staffing levels, and residuals for content sold to streaming giants like Netflix and Amazon. Industry analysts suggest studios may have enough completed content to withstand a year-long work stoppage, while streaming services continue to struggle with profitability following the post-lockdown market shift.

writers guild of america· hollywood strike· netflix· streaming residuals· disney plus

00:00 She's the Yoko of the Royals, man. Adam Curry. John C. DeVorah. It's Thursday May 4th 2023 this is your award-winning Gimbo Nation Media Assassination episode 1552! This is no agenda. Crank it! Cracking up the drone wars and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number six, In The Morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley that considering the date we're all saying the same thing may the fourth be with you? I'm John C. Dvorak Oh yeah, I forgot all about that. I'm not a Star Wars fan. I mean I watched the first one an Empire Strikes Back and that was it

00:44 I was done. That was it, i didn't need any more than that yeah no it wasn't enough well i will say there's not going to be any star wars movies for awhile It happened twice in the existence of this show and both times it has only benefited us. It has? What what? The writer's strike. Yeah, I know it till it has only been once during the show this is the second time yeah this is the second time so and it lasted a first one last at 100 days and it took up it ruined their business and hurt them the bottom line in Hollywood California and I don't see and the thing is I think do I have I think of a clip about this maybe I have a clip I've a backgrounder

01:39 And uh, we'll play the background. We're talking about it's from France 24 because you know they at least try to give us some valid reporting It is day one of the first Hollywood writer strike in 15 years and writers have certainly turned out in huge numbers hundreds of people marching right now in front of the Netflix headquarters In Hollywood chanting slogans like corporate greed has got to go no contract No script and LA as a union town and that's hey ho We've heard lots of support, lots of cars dozens and dozens of them honking their horns in support of these riders as they drive by. These riders who are asking for several things including better pay streaming residuals or royalties for when a show that they've been working on is then sold onto a streaming giant like Netflix and also mandatory staffing but that last point is the one that was really the major sticking point in negotiations with these entertainment companies

02:33 And that is what led to those talks breaking down last night. We're already seeing some consequences, some of those late-night talk shows like Jimmy Kimmel Live!, The Late Show with Stephen Colbert all going into reruns starting tonight and of course the longer this strike goes on the more consequences we will start seeing in the entertainment world here in Hollywood. Yeah I'd always loved this except this time they're really screwed! They're totally screwed this time because they're not gonna get anything they want There's no residuals in streaming. They all accepted these deals like, okay well you... And they got bonus on them! Yes they got extra money up front Not that I'm not on the side of the writers being a writer myself but i'm not in that union but I will say this they were giving them extra money because of the no residual situations from the streamers Netflix and those guys

03:27 They were throwing money around like it was crazy. Netflix and Amazon Studios, tons of money flying around. And my understanding is that these studios also expected this strike some years ago and have put so much stuff in the can that they can float for a year. Well, so there's number of things and I'm not against organized labor, I am not against unions... I think I am pro-union! I'm SAG AFTRA, I believe although you know i've never made enough money to get into the retirement fund

04:03 I used to get, i don't even get money from anymore. I used to get 12 cents from uh seriously! Or like a dollar five. I would get a residual check from Swamp Thing and Circus of the Stars also got me residuals for a little bit there but part of it is you know this per episode thing and then on streaming if you do Friends today which had what 30 episodes a season? It would have eight You know, so there's a per episode thing. Yeah that's the other thing everyone subscribe to these eight episodes in fact even on network TV there was one show called The Good Place

04:42 Which was a funny show, but it varied. It wasn't even the same from year to year. It was 10 episodes and then they take a year and half off because when we get ten good episodes or twelve good episodes, we'll put another season together. And they go on and on... I liked that show but never even watched the last season! There was like a two-year delay for it to come out because they've taken their time. Come on! And since Caesar used to do like 40 shows a year, hour and a half comedies all original. Hey we do 110! We do 110 three hours of post? Yeah the writers now you see like none of the late night shows all those guys they're worthless without their writer room and the jokes are okay but you know they might write more than the jokes it's the questions it's the interviews it's also incredibly phony and just bullcrap

05:38 And I and I please Writers Guild of America don't you know members don't write us and tell me what it's about. No, I don't care really We have the list of what it's about you sent it to me Yeah It's a huge list one of our guys has is involved in this strike and he sent us a huge list of all the demands and all the counter proposals put it in the show notes everyone can take a look at it but But the world has changed. You're turning speakers to change, I mean it changed for every writer. I mean look at the magazine business if you want to go back to the early days like let's say when the magazine business was a millionaire back in the day you were riding high on the hog. You had limo 24 hour service. You had your money in a brown paper bag. I did can't really speak or so just a little bit just a tad here and then if you are sure and so if you go

06:32 Back, let's say in the 70s you go back to that. There was a period of time before that where there was called the short story market for all these magazines like Call Yours and all these used to publish short stories and then they were quarterlies that would do stuff like that did that business come who what short story writer? Do you personally know I don't know if it also if you look at the business Disney Plus Netflix on Netflix Paramount These guys are bleeding money. The whole thing was short-sighted, they all were going to get in the streaming business of the future." Yeah maybe during the lockdown there was some business some future in it but then that ended during COVID and people aren't going back to the movies... It's just a different world and the free money train is over so you know this is not any speculative money that's going into these projects

CHAPTER 02 / 45 Discussion

Vice Media Bankruptcy and Digital Media Decline

Vice Media is facing bankruptcy after failing to find a buyer, following years of high-valuation investments from companies like Time Warner and Murdoch. The company, which began as a magazine in Canada founded by Shane Smith and Gavin McInnes, raised over $900 million but struggled to establish a sustainable business model. This collapse mirrors broader trends in digital media, including recent downsizing at BuzzFeed.

vice media· shane smith· gavin mcinnes· buzzfeed· digital media

07:29 You know, most companies are crowdfunding these days. I mean by the way speaking of bullcrap media companies Vice Media finally this thing is going out of business. There's Buzzfeed, Buzzkill or whatever the hell their name was. Which, I mean Bloom and I used to look at this thing all the time like how are these guys doing it? They basically they start as a magazine in Canada. You know Shane Smith bullcrap artist Gavin McInnes who started Proud Boys and then ran around on his podcast with a dildo up his butt flying people you know they started by hoodwinking Murdoch into a 70 million dollar investment

08:12 But then they raised in total $900 million from Time Warner, from all these different companies. And they had no business model! They were basically an advertising company that made hip content And then they actually bought an ad consulting company with 500 people. They built a 60,000 square foot facility in Brooklyn and finally it's like no one is dumb enough to put money into it and now going out of business! All this was bull crap that was built on bull. That's what a lot of the streaming stuff... I'm sorry writers...and Spotify

CHAPTER 03 / 45 Discussion

Podcast Unionization and Production Models

Spotify-owned podcast studios Gimlet Media and Parcast have unionized under the WGA East, a move criticized for applying traditional Hollywood production models to the podcast industry. The "Value for Value" model is presented as a more sustainable alternative to the high-overhead executive producer structures that are currently failing as venture capital funding dries up.

spotify· gimlet media· parcast· wga east· value for value

08:57 Who of course allowed Gimlet and Parcast to unionize under the WGA. So now the podcasts are affected by this, you know all these true... What? Yes! You know that... I know about the unionization at Gimlet and some other efforts but that's under the Writers Guild? WGA East yeah mm-hmm But that was also... That's crazy. It was premised on bull because you and I talked about this all the time like, you can't—the podcast model does not work with executive producers and producers online producers and editors no it works when one or two people do it themselves

09:44 themselves and then maybe, maybe you're lucky enough to have an extra person or like we do value for value. We make everybody a producer and give everybody credit for making the show and make everyone feel that they're part of the show but no they went all Hollywood and when the money dried up well start selling your Neumann mics people! I'm working off a $700 piece of gear here. They had seventy thousand dollars worth of gear Yeah, and your gears sounds better in fact as we talked about earlier before the show I've always thought you should win an award And I am guaranteeing that you will! You know what? I'm gonna snub the Academy

10:22 It's not gonna be from them. And it's gonna be, accepting on Adam Coe's behalf Robert Downey Jr., you know something like that I'm not gonna go No But it's sad because I don't think there's going to be an agreement that is satisfactory for the writers who really just have To find they should be doing pot in fact. They are! Are you kidding? I was talking to my buddy Who got kicked out of Disney Oh yeah, our friend. I'd never met him but... I consider him a friend from afar Yes and i have had dinner at his house so we actually are friends Yeah so you're buddies? You're real true friends And he's still on payroll because oh oops they couldn't kick him out because the whole division started to fall apart So could you please stay? Well that's not reported! Well I'm probably already going further than I should but as we were talking

CHAPTER 04 / 45 Discussion

TikTok Dominance and AI Scriptwriting Concerns

TikTok has emerged as the primary non-union competitor for traditional Hollywood content, capturing significant market share and advertising revenue. Simultaneously, studios are exploring the use of ChatGPT and other AI tools to generate scripts, prompting writers to demand regulations to protect their jobs. The shift in entertainment revenue mirrors the 1990s crossover when the video game industry began outperforming the movie business.

tiktok· artificial intelligence· chatgpt· gaming industry· content creation

11:26 We agreed, you cannot Hollywood as they don't see it. They cannot go up against the number one non-union content producer in the world which is taking all the money and that is TikTok. TikTok is where all the money is! He agreed with me Yeah. He said, you know they screwed up money I mean...I hearken back to the 90s when there was a crossover point and this is this happens every so often it's not observed well by the pundit class and that was the crossover point where the game computer game and console business was making more money than the movie business Oh hundreds of millions more i would say Yes they were making and profiting

12:18 more than the movie business. And these crossover points take place all the time and it's like when something crosses over, everything has to adjust once it happens in Hollywood from what I can tell really has been very reluctant to adjust anything Well, of course because it's all been such a wonderful system like oh yes well you know I have guaranteed minimums and that just yeah look. Look! You've been in Hollywood you know how it goes It's a bunch of arrogant dicks and everyone is in on the game Yeah there are a lot very talented people make no mistake incredibly talented people

12:57 But all of it is... the fire leaves you, you know? The fire. And how great has the writing been and let's just add to that that Hollywood, the streamers but Hollywood whatever you want in the content creation business They are also captured by the magical artificial intelligence and I think they truly believe that they can cut costs by using chat GPT to build a bare-bones script. These people are insanely stupid. Absolutely correct! Insanely stupid, so this is another thing and they're not gonna give up on that That's what the writers apparently also want guarantees that exactly that will not happen. I think I have an article... Here it is Hollywood

13:40 Writers demanding studios regulate AI so it doesn't steal their jobs. Now of course it's going to steal your jobs, how about this? Just people on TikTok are gonna be the new millionaires. They're doing a great job, but... A lot of them are already millionaires Yeah they're going to create groovy stuff and people will enjoy it It'll be short form everyone's all jacked up like 30 seconds mega drug hits But okay, that stuff goes on forever. Yeah I want to since you brought up the AI thing with these guys. I want to bring it up an ai clip Okay, here's the only one I have so we can talk about a I okay You know there's cigar and crystal ball they had this podcast by the way Can I just say I find her outfits odd?

CHAPTER 05 / 45 Discussion

Breaking Points Podcast and AI Safety Warnings

The hosts of the Breaking Points podcast, Krystal Ball and Saagar Enjeti, are criticized for their plans to build a large studio rather than maintaining a lean operation. A segment from their show featuring commentators Emily and Ryan is highlighted for claims that teenagers are being "sexually assaulted" by AI algorithms, a statement the hosts find hyperbolic and representative of poor AI analysis.

krystal ball· saagar enjeti· breaking points· jeffrey hinton· ai assault

14:33 Now, I only listen on audio so i don't see what she's wearing. Well you and I as producers you know... So they have a first of all congratulations to them because where did they leave? They left the hill. The hill! And everyone was like, you idiots!! And they did a pretty good job and they crowdfunded stuff and people liked what they're doing. Yeah no, I think of all the people that did a spin-off like that arrogantly with criticism, I think they did a great job. have a working operation, although if you listen to their more recent podcast they want to get more money so they can buy a big studio. Now I heard that which... Wait wait! The Curry Dvorak Consulting Group would like to make a statement Don't do it You're stupid We just have to say Leo Laporte don't do it Joe Rogan's studio

15:26 It's like a little space that he sub-leases from a fitness company in an industrial area of Austin. What you see is what it is, it's a small studio You don't need big studios Whatever you're doing now the thing that you have whether its green screen or I'm not quite sure what it is...it's fine! Don't don't throw the money away. Would you agree? Partner absolutely, it's crazy You know I think and think you're gonna turn into some you know massive This is the problem is getting a big head instead of just pocketing the profits stop shrink your head Shrink your head so they have there they're so big now that they have this this couple

16:19 whose name is Emily and Ryan. So every once in a while, they have the shows theirs and Emily's here talking about AI and how it's making an incursion and she makes a comment in here that I would've thought initially listening to because I'd never heard these two before that she's like coke head, she sounds coked up but in fact when you listen When you listen to her, the whole podcast... They're even doing Hollywood coke! Stop it. You can tell she has a cold because you could hear... She was seeing last night. It's anything but. She is not coked up

17:00 She has just got a cold, but she sounds terrible. And here she is going on about AI and drops a little bombshell in here that I'm just a head shaker. Oh my gosh! That's what Hinton is saying. He's saying if you think about what AI sees as increasing its power or an algorithm might see it increasing power, it's cloning itself. It is going after other people that threaten its power just logically you can understand how an algorithm would get from point A to point B and that creates something that spirals out of human control very quickly so I am concerned about things like teenagers using AI getting basically sexually assaulted by AI. I think thats a huge concern

17:48 Don't touch me there! Show me on the doll where the AI assaulted you. What is that? Can you believe that?! Well, assault these days is just saying like hey nice dress and that's sexual assault. Yeah nice tits. Ooh stop it I don't like the word tits It always bothered me I don't know why. I'm just saying Look within Thank you thank you Grasshopper shall do that So this is People are, they're out of control in their analysis of AI. Okay luckily I have a few clips to talk about this. Yeah okay. I would've gotten more this one I just thought was okay that I don't know if you could top that one but you can I'm sure come up with some goodies. Well look couple things let's just it's almost like all these euphemisms

CHAPTER 07 / 45 Discussion

Jeffrey Hinton Resignation and AI Regulation Debates

Jeffrey Hinton, a pioneer in AI, resigned from Google at age 75 to speak freely about the risks of the technology, including disinformation and job displacement. His warnings coincide with a public letter signed by Elon Musk and Steve Wozniak calling for a six-month pause on AI development. Critics suggest these calls for regulation are strategic moves by tech leaders to catch up to competitors or secure government-funded "ethics" roles.

jeffrey hinton· google· elon musk· steve wozniak· ai regulation

22:49 But it's always like, hey... Have you done the follow-up to find out what is going on? No. I have a life! Do you have to follow up?! Alright, so then we have a big thing happen in AI world because remember we all have to be very very afraid. Everybody who is not...who doesn't have an AI play let's just call it what it is that's how the venture capitals talk about it do they have an AI play? No Elon Musk does not have an AI play So what does he has to do? He has to sign the joint letter to say we need to stop six months so I can catch up and get my own AI play, get it funded. And now oh no! It's technology that could be superior to the human brain. Okay France 24 go baby! And one of its pioneers now says part of him regrets his role in creating it this is nothing better than the

23:43 the creator coming out and saying, oh! 75-year old computer scientist Jeffrey Hinton says he quit his job at Google so he can independently share his concerns about AI technology. What do you want to say? I was gonna say, yeah because he's a forced retirement. Get out of the company! Which include fears over disinformation and stealing human jobs but also go far beyond that. This is this is it this is a trend we heard the Writers Guild of America talk about stealing jobs? We're picking up on something And now France 24 is talking about AI stealing jobs. Which include fears over disinformation and stealing human jobs, but also go far beyond that. What do we do to mitigate the long-term risks of things more intelligent than us taking control? Things like GPT4 eclipses a person in the amount of general knowledge it has and eclipses them by a long way

24:46 In terms of reasoning, it's not as good but it does already do simple reasoning. Okay let's just break this down he says has more knowledge than any human ever has bullcrap I have Google and he also said in terms of reasoning is not very good No exactly And that's the other thing they say well you can have more effect I was thinking the same thing you just said which is that we never accumulated in our own brains, the Encyclopedia Britannica but we've always had the encyclopedia that we could look. It's like an extension it's like a human extension right so how is it gonna really outdo us because all those human extensions are the only thing that it has access to its not

25:32 It's not developing new stuff out of the blue. Also, I think that as a human...I have Google-fu! I mean, I can search things and get answers that other people can't because I know how to input the queries Oh, I'm great at a prompt query! I'm a prompt engineer Douchebags. This is a whole new category of douchebag I'm a prompt engineer Didn't you just admit to being one? I am one but i don't put it on my resume And given the rate of progress we expect things to get better quite fast so we need to worry about that Worry about it! It's getting better quite fast, worry about it Can I ask you something please Who is this guy? This is the Google AI pioneer

26:19 I never heard of him. No, of course not! Have you heard of him? No they don't even mention his name AI pioneer he said... They do mention his name on and off again but He's 75. If such an AI pioneer how come i haven't heard of it And he's old enough he's 75 so he's old enough to have been part of that first ai go round back in the 80s. He took he took his absence when they knew they were going to kick them out because that's what google is doing getting rid of everybody And he's out there now doing this to get his own, he wants money. It's like how can I score some money? Oh maybe if i warn about this someone will pick me up as a um what's the word uh an artificial intelligence ethics guy ethics professional. There'll be something like that actually that analysis is 100 percent. You have to stop this!

27:12 Chat and I decided to go through with it, but if you know I have no respect for you So this guy is really trying to garner up a gig. It's just the latest warning that tech companies might be creating a monster they can't control in March after OpenAI released the latest model of its chatbot, GBT4 more than 1000 people from the tech industry including billionaire Elon Musk which of course is always the mark of a smart man and Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak Wozniak dated Kathy what's-her-face. He does not smart guy remember that? Kathy Griffin do you remember he dated her? Wozniak did?! Yes! So... Oh, he's been married for a long time. He is good guy everyone loves Wozniak Sure but doesn't mean he is smart

28:04 That was a bad date and Apple co-founders. Thank you. I don't like Kathy Griffin would for good reason Co-founder Steve Wozniak signed a letter calling for a pause on AI development while the risks are properly studied While organizations like the OECD have issued guidelines little AI regulation exists The U.S just launched a study of possible accountability measures in April, and the European Union has put forward an artificial intelligence act but the far-reaching legislation has yet to be passed. So this is all... This is just another gambit I know you agree with me, so it's not even a discussion to be had. Silicon Valley tech companies are like they have nothing by the way cost some astronomical obscene amount to keep the servers running for this no business model business they have You can't advertise on chat GPT

28:58 What are you going to do with that? How are you gonna suck the information out of people, how're you gonna suck them dry and shove ads in their face. Well they're trying to get something right now they're using a subscription model Oh who's gonna pay for that?! People don't pay for stuff They won't pay for it. They won't, they're going to- I agree and there's enough open source versions that you know...I mean you can even transcripts you can now run on your own computer i just don't want to dedicate a machine to it and i'm happy to just give it to someone else who improves so i have no time to maintain it So that's not a business! Now they have to involve the government

CHAPTER 08 / 45 Discussion

Kamala Harris and Gina Raimondo AI Summit

Vice President Kamala Harris and Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo held a meeting with the CEOs of Google, Microsoft, and OpenAI to discuss AI safety and accountability. The administration expressed a desire to maintain the U.S. lead in AI development while mitigating risks to healthcare and education. The hosts mock the performative nature of the summit and the use of corporate buzzwords like "breaking things."

kamala harris· gina raimondo· google· microsoft· openai

29:34 Oh yeah, oh regulation. Okay so now we can be regulated which means we have all the money and then we can charge companies you know they're moving away from the business to consumer model with this and of course they're using up more energy than all of Bitcoin put together make no mention of that And even in the United States of course Now we have to set up meetings To have a meeting everybody This is from CNBC This is Gina Raimondo She's our Commerce Secretary, an AI genius I say. We also want to lead the world in AI but we want to do it safely. Madam Secretary you're part of this meeting that the Vice President is holding tomorrow with... Oh Kamala Harris is holding a meeting with Gina Raimondo about AI. I would pay money to sit in that meeting

30:24 I would like to be a fly on the wall. I can't wait for the vice president to talk about AI, please Kamala tell us! They better bring the cameras and the crew we want to see this. We want that live. CEOs of Google and Microsoft and OpenAI and i'm curious what the goal is? And what your concern level is around some of this technology The concern level is high. You know, it's a challenge because on the one hand the excitement level is high when you think about the promise and potential of AI and what it means for advances in health care, advances in education, advances in business as you say... Healthcare baby! Healthcare because Chad GPT can fix you healthcare It's the advantages this is huge the future is all ahead of us

31:13 There's a world of possibilities. In healthcare, advances in education and business as you say we're in the lead and we want to keep the lead but it has to be done safely. It is incredibly powerful technology so we want have this serious discussion with industry tomorrow will be one discussion among many that were having with many stakeholders to try to figure out how we go fast But without breaking things. Oh wow that's a great twist on Facebook's motto very good Gina So stupid all right I want to move off of this I want to move you into your in some into some of your clips Because I see what you have here, and I think it is the news of the day And we will have different takes on this I will start with a short clip of Nigel Farage interviewing

CHAPTER 09 / 45 Discussion

Kremlin Drone Attack and Antony Blinken Reaction

Russia accused Ukraine of an assassination attempt on Vladimir Putin following a drone explosion over the Kremlin. Secretary of State Antony Blinken dismissed the reports, stating he would take Kremlin claims with a "shaker of salt," a variation of the common idiom that the hosts criticize. Analysts describe the devices used as "dipshit drones" or oversized RC aircraft rather than sophisticated military hardware.

kremlin· vladimir putin· volodymyr zelensky· antony blinken· drone strike

32:08 presidential hopeful and former president Donald Trump about the drone war. There's a growing, I sense in America unhappiness about the money that has been given to Ukraine. Why doesn't anybody talk about peace and peace negotiations? So if I were president and I say this... ...I will end that war in one day it'll take 24 hours. I know Zelensky well, I know Putin well. How would get that ended in a period of 24 hours? You can break that deal 100% 100%, ah!

33:00 Trump is even saying it. Yes, even Trump is saying it 100%. I'm so disappointed that people do this okay so let's talk about this drone you got clips yeah this is the clip from Al Jazeera no they have so it's actually an interesting report You create a start and just go with it I mean, I didn't yeah. I intended just to play this first part this first clip which is you one Clip one Russia But but as I kept

33:41 It's a long report and I kept playing, oh yeah, I gotta clip this. I got to clip that so it turns out to be pretty long let's go with the setup Russia has threatened retaliation for what it says was an assassination attempt on President Vladimir Putin The Kremlin says two drones were used in an attack on the presidential residence In early hours of Wednesday He claims Ukraine was behind it. But Kiev strongly denies the allegations. This is what the Kremlin says was an attempt on the life of Vladimir Putin An object is intercepted by air defenses. Russia says it was a drone, one of two that officials say were launched by Ukraine in an audacious attack aimed at the Kremlin complex. Two unmanned aerial vehicles were aimed at the Kremlin, an official statement reads as a result of timely actions taken by the military and special services with the use of radar warfare systems

34:41 There's a backdrop to this that there was a so-called drone which looked like an oversized RC aircraft. with apparently with a block of C4 in it that didn't quite make it to Moscow and crash landed, and there's photos of it. I mean, sort of like one those remote control planes that you see at a demo demonstration day. This is not a Reaper drone? No! These are dipshit drones. Dipshit drones exactly! So then I said that's the report, that's pretty much all we need. But then it goes on and they start to do some analysis and in this next clip they have the Blinken Clip that I've been trying to find

35:28 Which is his, you know... The world's worst analogy. You'll hear it in here and then I will talk about it for a second because the guy doesn't seem to get the gist of this old analogy Let's play clip two So, and it's a said the Kremlin said that this wedge drone attack was dry run. The preparation for May 9th when Putin will be vulnerable because his whereabouts are known in advance It is a theory that not everyone is convinced about I've seen the reports I can't in any way validate them we simply we simply don't know

36:10 Second, I would take anything coming out of the Kremlin with a very large shaker of salt. This, the analogy of course as you know you've heard it I'll take it with a grain of salt. It's meaningless because a grain of salt is nothing. It's a grain of salt who cares? But a shaker of salt is not meaningless that's a lot of salt! Yes it sure is so what is he trying to say this is actually saying that this is a big deal because that's what his analogy implies

36:58 Well, I think what he's trying to say is it's Russian disinformation. We all know the Kremlin lies but he's... No that's what he's saying. He's saying that overtly but they use the analogy of a grain assault to a shaker assault? Yeah! He's an idiot Oh I know! He got this from Chad GPT. It was a Chad GPT suggestion and you know I don't think it was Ukraine, it was probably just some kid on the outskirts of Moscow. This thing was nothing special!

CHAPTER 10 / 45 Discussion

Zelensky Denial and War Propaganda

President Volodymyr Zelensky denied Ukrainian involvement in the Kremlin drone incident during a visit to Finland, asserting that Ukraine only fights on its own territory. The segment examines the celebratory reaction of Ukrainian students and the role of propaganda in the ongoing conflict, suggesting the incident may have been a staged event or a local provocation.

volodymyr zelensky· kiev· moscow· war propaganda· finland

37:36 Well, except for the C4. Well we don't know if this had c4 on it We don't I thought you said no the first one No The first one but that crashed way short of mine But doesn't matter to me it's all distraction Let's see the rest of your clips I agree clip three has got a laugh in it so let's go there On a visit to Finland President Zelensky denied Ukraine's involvement We don't attack Putin or Moscow We fight on our territory. We are defending our villages and cities, we don't have

38:14 You know enough weapon for these He's begging for money again, he got some I think I think we gave him some more money on Wednesday That's a slippery way of begging from my you know. We did nothing to do with it But in fact we can't afford it if you give us some money Maybe we'd do it dude. We could crowdfund that drone. This guy is unbelievable Wait until you hear my clips, he sure is. Okay so here we go with the final clip on the drones reaction. Yet even as air raid sirens sounded in the Ukrainian capital, the mere possibility that Ukraine had struck a blow at the heart of Russian power was thrilling for some. My classmates and I have been talking about this all day it's very cool and very joyful it's lifted my spirits

39:02 In its official statement the Kremlin said it reserves the right to take retaliatory measures where and when it sees fit. Of course they would say that so the Ukrainian students are all jacked up about this yeah I mean you really believe that this is just propaganda, this is war propaganda. I made a point but there was somebody who wasn't like an actor Are there students in school? I thought that, you know the Russian was attacking Kiev. Everyone has to hide because they're getting ready for the spring offensive It's all propaganda! All the journalists are hooting and hollering up in Poland They're all drinking hanging out with women of the night That's what it is what you do Women of the night

CHAPTER 11 / 45 Discussion

Mark Rutte and Zelensky at The Hague

Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte welcomed President Zelensky to The Hague on the eve of Dutch Liberation Day. Rutte praised Ukrainian courage and compared the current conflict to World War II, though some Dutch citizens criticized the timing of the visit during traditional war remembrance ceremonies. Zelensky appeared in his signature olive drab attire for the diplomatic reception.

mark rutte· volodymyr zelensky· the hague· netherlands· world war ii

39:54 I don't know why i said that. Alright, so let's get back to reality as... As we have to wind this war down, we have an actual war that... not an actual war but we have sales jobs. We have stuff to do over there in Philippines and Taiwan the China Sea There's real money to be had people This guy wants tiddlywinks! There is no sales in these drones? No! We gotta wind this down so how do we do it well

40:32 Let's crank up the old narrative of we're going to prosecute Putin. Because it is not Russia, of course! We love the Russian people It's all about Putin So how do we do that? Well, we have to get him to the place where we have successfully prosecuted Putin before and that is The Hague in The Netherlands and nothing like doing a little ceremony on the eve of May 5th, actually it was there on May 4th which is on the eve of May 5. May 5 is Liberation Day in the Netherlands a big deal. Is something very impressive that Dutch still do and that is may fourth 8 p.m

41:15 There is a moment, a minute of silence and literally people stop their cars on the highway get out and will just stand there and be silent for a minute to remember the fallen of World War II. So of course we've got to bring this Nazi in because the Azov Brigade is literally naming streets after Nazi heroes and some of the Dutch are onto it now there's people writing about this in paper saying hey why is this guy here on this day? But that would not be the message we get from Mark Rutte. And that is the way you pronounce it, M5M, Rutte who was a unmarried childless former HR manager at Unilever... Hey! Yes? How are they pronouncing it on the M5M? Rutte! Rutte! Rutte?! Rutte! Rutte! Rutte! Rutte! Huh Jimmy Dore does it too. Rutte! Dude call one Dutch person, call me! Rutte Tell you what Anything you want

42:15 So Rutte is an unmarried childless former HR manager at Unilever. Somehow he has been the prime minister for I think 10 years now? No, maybe even longer this is his fourth cabinet Keep him in there and he welcomes Vladimir to The Hague! Vladimir it has been 434 days since you spoke a few simple words that resonated all over the world Say what you were saying then. Sorry, I gotta bust the Dutch guy and instead of it's called quote, I'll be quoting you Ritte. I'll quote you instead of... I will say what you were saying then! And I'm... Say what you are saying then We're all here defending our independence Our country and it will stay this way That's what you said

43:08 And it's what those are riveting words. Do you? My gosh, I'm so glad we're all in front of the Ukraine flag here. Those are Winston Churchill that guy We're all here defending our independence our country and it will stay this way That's what you said and it would be understatement to say that you've kept your word The resolve and courage of the brave soldiers and citizens of Ukraine is without precedent in our lifetime. Wow! Without precedent in our lifetime?

43:45 There's a lot of people who are still around in World War II, dude. Who you're about to celebrate and I would say there are some differences in World War II and what you're seeing in Ukraine but okay... And yourself have become a symbol over the country A country? Oh country! I like the country nice country Have become a symbol over the country and its people can do when they are fighting for their existence, their freedom and future And we all admire you for that. Yes, and by the way everyone's in a suit now it's a nice reception and he's got his trademark olive drab with a little logo in the middle which is now his whole costume

CHAPTER 12 / 45 Discussion

State Department Influence and "Rule of Law" Rhetoric

The rhetoric used by Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte, including phrases like "every inch of the way," is identified as likely originating from the U.S. State Department. The discussion focuses on the use of American legal memes such as "Rule of Law" and "Crimes of Aggression" to frame the conflict. The hosts also mention Madurodam, a famous miniature park located in The Hague.

state department· antony blinken· rule of law· the hague· madurodam

44:33 You know that little Ukraine... Yes, his costume. It's a tight-fitting t-shirt with sleeves. He's got his costume on like Star Trek costume All right now let's get into the meat of what we're really doing here By the way I think that this was organized by the State Department The whole thing from beginning to end and i think i can prove it Our state department When I had the privilege To address the members Of the Rada almost a year ago We will stay with you every inch of the way. As far as I'm aware, Ukraine, The Netherlands most of the EU most of the world uses the metric system why would you say every inch of the way unless it was written by the US State Department? Winner! Seriously this is... Oh it could have been written by chat GPT. There ya go.

45:38 We will stay with you every inch of the way. And let me assure you, for Lord Amir that we too are determined to keep our word." Now let's get to the meat of the problem here! What do we got end this war man? What are gonna do?! Because this is an unjust war against everything we stand for. This is also American State Department talking points and unjust war since when his war just is it ever really just I mean, maybe... Yeah. No, I think you're onto something here. This is an interesting situation. It's quite likely that the State Department put this together because it's not only that but is corny which is classic Blinken. The whole shaker inch by inch! Exactly. Step by step slowly I turned Isn't inch-by-inch isn't that the Robert De Niro speech in that football movie?

46:36 Inch by inch really comes from the three stooges I think or one of these things. Alright, it's not a just war! It's not fair! Because this is an unjust war against everything we stand for This is a war against freedom, democracy and the rule of law in our part of the world. Rule of Law! Yeah yeah it's actually as we know it's a rule... It's a war of aggression. Aggression That's why we stand with Ukraine By the way root that rule of law meme blah blah blah is very American. Rule of Law? Of course, of course Democracy and rule of law in our part of the world

47:15 That's why we stand with Ukrainian people. Yeah, the bastion of democracy which is Ukraine. And why you can count on our unwavering support. Unwavering? Russia cannot win this war and it must be held accountable for all the crimes of aggression and injustice There it is! The crimes of aggression We have to look at these euphemisms. The crime of aggression, so if I'm aggressive that's a crime? If i'm aggressive in my speaking patterns, if I'm aggressive on the playing field, if I'm aggressive in my academic studies that is a crime? They're literally calling the crime of aggression! Help me John

48:00 I don't know, you're on a roll. Russia cannot win this war and it must be held accountable for all the crimes of aggression and the injustice that is inflicting on the people of Ukraine day after day in this horrific war So what better place to meet than here in The Hague? The legal capital of the world What?! In case you didn't know the Hague is the legal capital of the world. Oh my god Uh-huh, and that where miniature world is You know Maduro dumb was called in Maduro dumb yeah It's it's actually close its I think it's between The Hague and Rotterdam miniature world miniature worlds

CHAPTER 13 / 45 Discussion

MH17 Precedent and Russian Asset Seizure

The hosts link the current legal proceedings against Russia to the 2014 downing of flight MH17, criticizing the official reports and the involvement of the intelligence-linked group Bellingcat. They argue that the push for a conviction of Vladimir Putin at the International Criminal Court is a mechanism to legally justify the permanent seizure of confiscated Russian financial assets.

mh17· bellingcat· vladimir putin· international criminal court· asset seizure

48:45 This is quite cute, Maduro Dom. Oh it's dynamite! I would recommend anyone who has a chance to visit this little operation to do the little... To go do it. It's fascinating anyway. I'm with you on everything so far but my conclusion is different than yours By the way that Maduro Dom IS in The Hague. I'm sorry not between The Hague and Rotterdam thanks NPC Alright what's your conclusion? We're gearing up to actually do an invasion. Boots on the ground, American soldiers? No absolutely not! We're gearing up to end the war and we're doing it with all these fluffy words... And the way we do it is we come up with a way to take the money that we confiscated in legal ways for crimes of aggression

49:39 Then we prosecute Putin in the capital, the legal capital of the world just like we did before. So what better place to meet than here in The Hague? The legal capital of the world Ever since the downing of flight MH17, we in the Netherlands have known that justice doesn't come automatically. And this was MH 17? The Malaysian flight which they still... Yeah the rigged report never been released. The box has never been released it's phony. They're just making the Hig look like a phony baloney operation when he brings that in and they brought in Bellingcat

50:21 intelligence operation who had all the proof of the booked rocket being shot from Russia. No, it was Ukraine we I mean man we did so much on us We had so much coverage of that So he's pulling these two together and of course that's it's over now Oh no, no, we already know it doesn't come easily but but you know if we all know It's as good as its is good as We basically have him hanging, Putin. For MH17 and we'll hang him for this too so that everybody can take the money final payout everybody gets their cash That's what is going on. MH 17 we in the Netherlands have known that justice doesn't come automatically you have to have staying power

51:04 staying power. What does that mean? It's like a deodorant commercial. You need the Viagra of law, I don't know what kind of staying power you need! That's weird. ...have known... You know it is the State Department hey hey I know let's put in something funny just putting this staying power just see if anyone catches it make make that Rick Root guy say that make him say that okay that's cool. Justice doesn't come automatically you have to have staying power The Netherlands will do everything it can to ensure that justice is done for Ukraine however long it takes and however difficult it may be. It's the term, whatever it takes but okay. Vladimir as you know your visit to the Netherlands couldn't have come at a more symbolic moment

CHAPTER 14 / 45 Discussion

"No Peace Without Justice" Slogan and Border Negotiations

During his speech at the International Criminal Court, Zelensky utilized the slogan "No peace without justice," which the hosts compare to U.S. domestic protest slogans. Reports suggest that while Zelensky publicly demands a return to 1991 borders including Crimea, there are internal diplomatic murmurings regarding a settlement based on the 2014 borders and the status of the Donbas region.

george floyd· crimea· donbas· 2014 borders· international criminal court

51:50 Every year on the 4th of May we remember the Dutch victims of the Second World War and all the soldiers who have given their life since then for peace and freedom worldwide. Tomorrow, on the 5th of May, Liberation Day... We are fortunate that we can celebrate that we have been a free country since 1945." And a lot of Dutch are pissed about this! Like what is that guy doing here? This is our war remembrance For our people, country was flattened. People ate sugar beets they ate nettle soup with rocks so no, no, they're not liking that So Zelensky then goes to the International Criminal Court and does a little... And I'm not going to tell you what the backdrop, all these things have a backdrop, with their slogan

52:39 And there was a printed slogan which I'm not going to tell you just yet because the term is used in this report from France 24. Luckily we don't have to listen to him talking, uh... We have the F24 lady to tell us kind of exactly what Volodimir said in this speech at the International Criminal Court He also talked about um.. The importance of justice that there can be no peace without justice literally on the background it said, no peace for Ukraine without justice. Does that sound familiar? It's one of our lefty slogans from the United States. George Floyd! No Justice No Peace Yeah there's a George Floyd yep so we made it but it's been around forever then and its always the same thing But now they've just turned it around and said there will be no peace for Ukraine without justice

53:37 So what they're saying is, and the way I see it is we will call peace after we have justice. What does justice? That means we convict Putin. We don't have to throw him in jail. Just like MH17, we convict him, we take the money that we confiscated and then we make peace." He also talked about the importance of justice, that there can be no peace without justice because unless issues are fully properly resolved they simply erupt again later on. For him it is vital that Vladimir Putin is held to account at this court he made no bones about that and he also said that there should be stipulated in any negotiated peace agreement that there must be no repetition of aggression

54:23 Repetition of aggression. Oh, that horrible crime again by Russia towards Ukraine So he is very clearly setting out his points. It is true that Ukraine might not get all it wants and there is a lot of discussion about when this war might end and what might constitute some sort of acceptable settlement to Ukraine. And there are murmurings that perhaps Ukraine should settle for the 2014 borders and forget about Crimea. He is saying no way we want Crimea back We want our territory, and we want our values which are universal values respected

55:11 So that's new he's not gonna get he's not gonna get Crimea. He just using that as a chip We need universal values back to the back to the 94 what did you say 90? What's at 94 let me see I had a date I forget what it was Let me just check it this one. Oh, I have to rewind there we go Forget about Crimea. He is saying no way for the 2014 borders. Oh, the 2014 borders? Okay which is kind of what Putin wants so we get the 2014 borders back which is the Donbass region which may be just a demilitarized zone and then you get your money

CHAPTER 15 / 45 Discussion

Taiwan Defense Forum and US Weapons Sales

A US-Taiwan defense industry forum in Taipei featured representatives from 25 American defense contractors discussing multi-billion dollar weapons deals. While the U.S. pledges support for Ukraine, significant military hardware, including F-16 fighter jets, is being prioritized for sale to Taiwan. This shift highlights the defense industry's focus on the South China Sea as a more profitable long-term market.

taiwan· taipei· f-16· defense contractors· south china sea

55:56 which is kind of, it's probably already been stolen by now. So everyone already had, Zelensky has billions in offshore bank accounts. This is coming to an end so I do not think there are boots on the ground coming and the reason for that is this next report which is obvious what everyone's looking at because what do we have? We have a dinky toy dipshit drone flying over the Kremlin Volodymyr saying we don't have, we don't have this capability. No because it's all over here bro! Well the Taiwan US defense industry forum was an event where people gathered mainly to discuss how to buy and sell more weapons that lasted around three hours at a place in a convention center in Taipei and representatives of around 25 us defense contractors reportedly attended

56:45 and the Is it really much of a big deal if you look at the bigger picture? The US has already sold tens of billions of dollars worth of weapons to Taipei since 1979 and earlier this year Washington approved the sale of 619 million dollars worth of weapons including

57:42 F-16 fighter jets to Taipei. That was the biggest sale of 2023 so far, so these activities aren't going to stop anytime soon These deals do come though as Beijing has been ramping up pressure military and political pressure on the South Rhode Island in recent years So we'll do whatever it takes for Ukraine But the f-16s are going to Taiwan biggest sale of the year This is it. This is the bonanza! They don't give a crap about Ukraine? We're putting boots on the ground, that's why Susan Rice quit. She's running Mike Obama's campaign bro Whatever it takes is the term that keeps coming up and the only way Biden's gonna stay in office he thinks as if he gets feet on the ground because that's just the way you always Americans always think well you know you're in a conflict

CHAPTER 16 / 45 Discussion

Biden Investigation and FBI Whistleblower Claims

Senators Chuck Grassley and James Comer have issued a subpoena to the FBI for a document allegedly detailing a criminal scheme involving then-Vice President Joe Biden and a foreign national. The investigation stems from whistleblower disclosures regarding "pay-to-play" allegations. The hosts speculate that this investigation may be part of a broader effort within the Democratic establishment to move past Biden's presidency.

joe biden· chuck grassley· james comer· fbi· whistleblower

58:35 We can't abandon our president now. Yes, I read the newsletter and that is true... And you didn't send an edit! No, I'm sorry, I was out doing important things There was nothing to edit it was fine. I didn't see any mistakes But i'm sorry you're right uh like I got distracted and that was it I was prepping for the show That is a that is certainly a playbook American presidents have used but he's being taken down. He's being taken down by the Democrat Party, he's a marked man there's no way and they're just enlisting the Republicans now. What was wrong with this? What was wrong with this clip now why won't this play let me see

59:21 I want to mention something. I did get a note from one of our producers who's in the army who said that he's over there and he says the reporting about soldiers in Ukraine already is not being handled at all by the mainstream media, and I'm telling you somethings up. Hold on second...I have it here this is really weird. This whole Grassley thing. I wonder what happened with this clip? You've heard about this? Here, we got... Let's see if I play it this way. Maybe this will work let me say

59:57 Listen to this. I don't know why it's not playing my regular system here we go. Senator, I know you've also just issued a statement on you as well as your colleague James Comer demanding the FBI record on alleging criminal of this criminal scheme involving then Vice President Biden This congressional subpoena you say seeks specific a specific FBI document Senators thank you for jumping on with us what can you tell us? Well, I will only add to what you say that this comes from credible and unclassified whistleblower disclosures of this possible criminal activity when Biden was vice president. And we're we want this information and there's a subpoena going to be areas issued now. And it really boils down to my traditional oversight of government

1:00:54 particularly see the executive branches doing the work that they're supposed to be doing. So, the Justice Department and FBI needs to come clean to the American people what they did with a document because we know the document exists from very credible whistleblower information that we got We really need to know what steps did the Justice Department and FBI take to investigate and to vet the document, to determine if it's accurate or not. And did the Justice Department and the FBI follow normal investigating procedures? Or did they let political calculations interfere?" So it was a double whammy!

1:01:41 Yeah, which is of course what Obama does. Obama is run by the CIA so we blame the FBI and we get Biden out for an actual crime not something his kid did no for an actual crime on US soil This is a setup And you called it You called that you call to take down of Biden now yet Now your wallet fighting back and he's gonna fight back by sending troops to Ukraine That's some way he's gonna fight back Wow knows was what's going on? Well, yeah okay. But the military-industrial complex...

1:02:17 They don't want any part of it. They're just looking at their bank accounts. They're all in Taiwan with the ladies of the night. Well, that's more money! It's just more money and F-16s you know who gives a shit those things are... You gotta phase those things out and start selling the expensive f35s The dog, the dog that don't fly. It flies. So meanwhile well all this is going down in 2023 It's unbelievable, but there is still a whole country that will stop dead in its tracks to watch an old dude with an old bag get in the golden coach.

CHAPTER 17 / 45 Discussion

UK Coronation Protest Restrictions and Public Allegiance

The British Home Office issued warning letters to anti-monarchy and climate protesters ahead of King Charles III's coronation, threatening 12 months of imprisonment for disruptive activities. The public has also been invited to swear a "homage of the people" to the King. The hosts discuss the erosion of free speech in the UK, noting the decline of traditional venues like Speaker's Corner.

king charles iii· coronation· home office· extinction rebellion· speaker's corner

1:02:57 and be turned into the king. Anti-monarchy protesters in the UK are under close watch ahead of the coronation, The British Home Office has issued a warning letter saying planned peaceful protests on Coronation Day will be firmly blocked I love planned peaceful protests! In the US those are cool even during Covid There they will be blocked Strong measures are in place to prevent any disruptive activity A new law will enable 12 months imprisonment for protesters blocking roads, airports and railways. A letter from the Home Office's Police Powers Unit says the law has been brought to prevent disruption at major sporting and cultural events. Blocking protests of the kind climate activists have unleashed, The law also lays down six months in jail and a fine for protesters locking onto other objects including buildings as a mark of protest. Wait! This is great! Wait... Climate Activists?

1:03:53 Oh yeah, the climate activist. Even though he's the climate guy... He is like a climate nutball! They should be pleased as punch that this guy is getting in No but that's because they're bull By the way, members of the public have been invited to swear their allegiance to The King People around the UK and abroad will be invited to say the words, I swear I will pay true allegiance to your majesty and your heirs and successors according to the law so help me God.

1:04:31 Locking on to other objects, including buildings as a mark of protest. It gives police powers to stop and search protesters if they suspect that they are planning to cause chaos. Anti-monarchy group Republic described the letter as very odd The group has been planning protests on Coronation Day Their banner is to read Not My King Reports say other units like climate group Extinction Rebellion have been sent similar letters Many groups have hit out at what they call sudden action by the Home Office. They call it a restriction of freedom of speech and right to peaceful and legitimate protest Well, of course! The UK is...is a speech-free zone man As in you can't use any

1:05:16 Yeah, go to the corner. Speaker's Corner. Remember I went there when Tina and I were in the UK? There was nobody there! I've been there a number of times. I stay at a place that is nearby when i'm in London But we were there more recent than you Probably... There has never been anybody there The first time I was in London it was 1973 and there was nobody there I was there in 19... see I was 15 so would that make me 76 My dad took me and we went to Speaker's Corner. I was very impressed, and there was one or two guys standing on the corner there talking smack... Usually socialist! But you can't say anything on social media You can do anything there Anything

CHAPTER 18 / 45 Discussion

NPR Camilla Parker Bowles Hagiography

NPR is criticized for airing a flattering profile of Queen Camilla, featuring author Tina Brown. The segment attempts to rehabilitate Camilla's image from the "other woman" in the Charles and Diana marriage to a "national treasure." The hosts contrast this new narrative with the historical public animosity toward Camilla, noting the scripted nature of the interview.

npr· camilla parker bowles· tina brown· princess diana· vanity fair

1:06:03 And now it's like, oh you want a peaceful protest? No. Six months in jail! Peaceful protests no. No peaceful protests for years. Now if we're gonna talk about this topic and I wanna mention here that I've been listening to some more podcasts than usual they spend hours on one topic. The Royals? We're on any one topic We've already on our fourth topic here. Yes, so let's go to So now I've got NPRs decided to become the front man and promoter of Camilla Really? really the horse face Do you want a listen to a report that is so disgusting It's like a hagiography just over-the-air of Camilla

1:06:57 And the whole setup, the whole thing is to me it's remarkable. I think yes i do of course and feels to me like this is very wrong certainly the NPR listening audience...I believe that they were that the NPR audience is Lady Di fans and if you're a Lady Diana fan which I would say I was a fan I mean she I disagree with the whole story You know, poor princess. No no she was a media whore and she liked it and that eventually got her killed but You know, how she was treated versus Camilla. Camilla is just...she is Beelzebub compared to Lady Di Well we're gonna hear the update on this because we have one of the key experts in pushing narratives coming on but let's go with Camila1NPR Over the past several decades The one-time Camilla Parker Bowles has been known as many things

1:07:54 By the way, I think we should all go by our full middle names. Adam Clark Curry and John Charles Dvorak and Camilla Parker Bowles. The wife of the rakish brigadier Andrew Parker Bowles, girlfriend of the heir to the throne but most of all the other woman in what turned out to be the not-so fairy tale marriage of Charles and Diana And this Saturday she will officially have a new title Queen Tina Brown wrote the palace papers inside the House of Windsor and she's on the line to talk with us about Camilla's winding journey. Tina, welcome back to the show! Thank you so much For Americans who are not obsessed with the royals and who might know Camilla mainly for her role in the breakup of King Charles' then Prince Charles' first marriage remind us of her background separate from Charles This is so not left this

1:08:42 Obsessed, obsessed. Obsessed with the Queen, obsessed with the Royals! Obsessed! It's something that all American women for some reason get a day off from being political and they can all be obsessed Oh I love the hat, I love the coach it's a fairy tale it's weird Now this particular presentation I find to be completely offensive and they bring in Tina Brown who is famous and she's like, a royal watcher. Well she started Vanity Fair, she's a very famous editor and you bring her in to do a hatchet job of some sort or some professional

1:09:25 Not a hit job in this case, but a flattery job. And so we're going to be re-educated about the greatness of Camilla. So you're way off with that analysis of yours! That's old! That's the old analysis! The new analysis is her! I want to ask you something... Well, of course, this is, y'know, we have a special relationship between the US and UK So every person who has authority to speak of the royals had to be a friend of someone or been at parties. Do we know what her connection was, what Tina Brown's connection was? If you go to a Wiki page and start looking it up, there is some deep connection to Kingsmen or something...who knows!

1:10:16 Let's go to part two of these clips. So she always was raised in the extremely aristocratic milieu of a country debutante, if you like on the Sussex towns. Her circle was always extremely upper class bumping up against royals in every conceivable shape and form. I've always thought of Charles as sort of stiff kind-of awkward person although he's grown into his role over the years What is her reputation? What does this NPR lady know

1:11:01 He was always a little bit stiff. No, this is like scripted you're weird This is so scripted it just if this is I it's almost like an advert in a One of those phony baloney ads It's like it's almost like an advertisement Is she referring to when native ad? Is she referring to the time when we had the leaked phone call of Prince Charles saying to Camilla I wish it was your tampon Is that what she means, really? That he kind of grew into his role. Either way shape and form I've always thought of Charles as sort of a stiff kind-of awkward person although He's grown into his role over the years What is her reputation or the public sense of her as a person? Always wildly attractive Tremendously earthy fun Earthy!

1:11:47 absolute catnip to men at all times. You know, Camilla really was and indeed her brother and sister were very appealing too they were known as the sexy Shands because the Shand family she was you know Camilla Shand uh uh you know they were a very appealing country family always the sort of toast of every debutante party and so on so she was a very appealing woman and she could have really married anyone She was definitely extremely popular on the sort of you know the single woman circuit well you say appealing but Who else did she date on the single woman circuit? Who else?! They go, they present this and then of course her next commentary is kind of again it is different. She presents her as like some hottie back in the day and toast to the town and you know her and her siblings so that she's developing this

1:12:46 narrative that is just it's hard to believe. Let me finish this clip, let me finish this clip there's 22 seconds left hold on Definitely, extremely popular on the single woman circuit. Well you say appealing but there was a point where she was one of the most hated women in Britain I believe the year after she married Charles which is 2005 A poll for The Times of London found only 21% of British public would be happy to have her as Queen But last year just a few days after Queen Elizabeth died a different poll showed that 53% of British public thought should do good job in new role How did she manage that turnaround?

CHAPTER 19 / 45 Discussion

Tina Brown on Camilla's "Earthy" Appeal

Tina Brown describes Queen Camilla's appeal as being "absolute catnip to men" and "tremendously earthy," citing her preference for comfortable shoes and "gardener's hands" with dirty fingernails. The hosts mock the contradictory descriptions of Camilla as both a "hottie" of the debutante scene and a "Rottweiler" or "Old Trout," as she was famously dubbed by the British press and Princess Diana.

tina brown· camilla parker bowles· npr· gardening· royal family

1:13:21 I don't see any dating history of her on the Wikipedia. But she did launch the Big Bone Walk campaign, whatever that is... Wow. Okay, so that was clip one? Yeah, to clip two or three. Okay well let's go with clip three because now we get the WTF clip! Well first of all you know that's the reason she was so unpopular was really because she was always seen through the prism of being you know the usurper of uh the adored princess Diana. So you know Diana used to call her The Rottweiler and You know, she was not a glamour girl Camilla at any point. I mean part of her appeal is that this is a woman who likes to wear... Wait! I thought she was the hardy? The hardy on the...

1:14:05 Right there that she was never the glamour girl at any point. She's the Yoko of the Royals man Come on, wait a minute just it's the clip before this she's going on about she was a hottie and she was the queen of the Debutante scene Couldn't have married anybody blah blah blah now She's never been anything but it but a Rottweiler or whatever that was I can't believe we're doing a whole segment on this This is just the construction of NPR. Yeah, that's a good point Anyway, onward. You know what? Elon Musk is right they don't deserve to have the at NPR. I'm in total agreement and you know she was not a glamour girl Camilla at any point. I mean part of her appeal... At any point! ...is that this is the woman who likes to wear comfortable shoes because she doesn't like to get bunions Comfortable shoes because she doesn't like to get bu- That's hot on the dating scene She walking around in Crocs This is great quote She wears comfortable shoes because she doesn't like to get bunions I'm telling ya thats literally in a word

1:15:04 Wear women wear comfortable shoes. This is horrible. ...shoes that, you know because she doesn't like to get bunions You know she has gardeners hands in the sense of... Gardener's hands! That's oh my god I met this chick She so hot she's wearing Crocs and she's got bunions and she got gardener hands man all like crooked and crap Oh, I can't wait to bag her. You know she has gardeners hands in a sense of rather dirty fingernails from her plunging into amongst the greenery A real kind of dog walker covered in dog hairs. You know, she's not a glamour woman Wow! All right you know just because I don't know why if I have to give this to him just right now That is wow wow NPR I'd love to get clip of the day after your complaining This was...this is horrible Tina Brown Wow all I can say is wow I've said it too many times already

1:15:59 Man, it's unbelievable. I know this is so here we go with the ug clip. This is clip four And unfortunately for her, people knew nothing really about her because she was so very private. Her friends knew she was this extraordinarily attractive and appealing woman but in terms of the public feeling about it they saw her through Diana's eyes which were usurper and she had to have that stigma and the press went after her with such viciousness I mean there are really appalling sexist comments about Camilla. They used to call her old bag or trout you know... I've never heard old trout. I think that's a winner show title viciousness, I mean They're really appalling sexist comments about Camilla. I mean they used to call her you know, Oh bag or trout What's worse? She called her lady with gardener hands a dog lady. What is how can old trout be bad? This is this is NPR man

1:16:56 Crazy. Press went after her with such viciousness, I mean the really appalling sexist comments about Camilla. They used to call her Old Bag, Old Trout... There was even a dish named after her as Haddock Parker Bowles! Just the rudest thing and to the point that she used to joke to Charles and sign her letters to him, you're devoted old bag Camilla because she'd been called it so often Sounds like she was a good sport about the abuse. Yes, she had a great sense of humor and that was part of her strength So do you think over time the public has forgiven her? And it thinks look this is a legitimate relationship It's an illegitimate love between these two and with time healed how the public felt about her Well yes because she's now been in working royal for 20 years actually really or nearly 20 years I mean as wife of Charles

1:17:42 Charles. There has been an acceptance, I mean in some ways because Charles now becomes king so late and she's a woman of 75 after all she is now become sort of the nation's grandmother and it is on her way to becoming sort of national treasure. So getting the reward as it were so late has really been beneficial to her because earlier, I don't think the public would have accepted it. But they're beginning to see that she's a very hard-working, very gracious humorous unpretentious woman actually who has definitely improved Charles' life and has really transformed him into being an unapologetically happy man. Oh he looks so happy doesn't he? Now yeah... NPR should be ashamed of themselves! Don't donate to NPR No give us the money Yeah really

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Prince Harry's Memoir and Royal PR Strategy

The discussion turns to Prince Harry's memoir, *Spare*, in which he accused Camilla of leaking stories to the press to rehabilitate her own image at his expense. Tina Brown acknowledges the role of sophisticated PR secretaries in transforming the public's perception of Charles and Camilla. The hosts suggest NPR's coverage is an attempt to capitalize on the high ratings generated by Harry and Meghan's media ventures.

prince harry· spare· camilla parker bowles· tina brown· netflix

1:18:28 So I get this last clip and I guess, I keep listening to this thinking there's got to be something someone some talent some what happened here why am i listening that Tina Brown doing shtick and then also trying to be so complimentary in some sort of a propagandistic way There must be a rationale, there must be something. Ah! Here it comes in clip five see if you can find it." In Prince Harry's very popular recent memoir he was very critical of her and I suppose like any blended family let's call it the Windsors have some complicated relationship. Is that a racist comment? Blended family is that because Harry's wife is black? Oh I did not catch that. People of color is what they mean blended? Interesting good catch

1:19:16 call it blended. Racist! In Prince Harry's very popular recent memoir, he was very critical of her and I suppose like any blended family let's call it the Windsors have some complicated relationships to navigate but he accused her of feeding the press negative stories about him so she could get better press is that likely to contaminate how Brits feel about her? Well I think there was a period when Charles really rehabilitated both his own image and that off Camilla after the death of Diana hired a quite resourceful and, shall we say, sophisticated press secretary who was all about making her reputation better and making Charles' reputation better. Harry felt strongly that he and William were sometimes thrown under the bus for the sake of their father and for Camilla's PR

1:20:01 You know, I think that Harry also does very much see that through the furious lens of being the son of the beloved Diana. His wonderful mother, their only real misery in her life was this figure Camilla so it's not really unlikely that Harry would feel so strongly about it because all his life he was raised to think of her as the enemy The PR woman, the talented PR woman is still working for them. And Tina Brown was... I guess she had to mention it because she is friends with her. She's friends

1:20:38 And so she mentioned it and your next thing I'm thinking, oh this whole thing is a setup. The PR woman arranged it This is just a hagiography kind of things you probably paid Tina straight from the royal budget Who knows? Well, and this is a scam! And I think NPR jumped on it because they want some of that Harry & Meghan juice You know, because that's been very successful. It has been very profitable their Netflix show has been one of the top viewed shows ever So they're just going for some cheap ass ratings with a cheap couple and a cheap-ass coach. It's just cheap ass! It's just cheap ass, it's that one big cheap-ass thing. All right I gotta lighten the mood here for a second...I need to tell you little story That was pretty light Oh no but i'm gonna go light into heavier stuff but through a more modern conflict

CHAPTER 21 / 45 Discussion

Paul Stanley and Dee Snider on Gender Care

Paul Stanley of the band KISS sparked controversy with a tweet criticizing the "normalization" of gender-affirming care for children, calling it a "dangerous fad." Dee Snider of Twisted Sister initially supported Stanley's statement, remarking that he was glad his parents didn't jump to conclusions when he "felt pretty" during his glam rock years.

paul stanley· kiss· dee snider· twisted sister· gender affirming care

1:21:40 So the old rockers are still out and about. And Gene Simmons, I don't know what he's doing but he was like hey if you don't get that COVID shot you should die so Gene Simmons is a dick. But Paul Stanley of Kiss, he's a guitar player, did something very controversial now these guys are all...Stanley has got to be almost 70 these guys are all up there But I know them all and they're interesting dudes, but you know They're still playing the you know the Connecticut Fair or whatever. Kiss probably does can still draw big audiences And he posted about Trans Maoism Or as we call that's what we call it but in general is about transgender children You know for about gender affirming care We've talked about this

1:22:37 He says, my thoughts on what I'm seeing. There's a big difference between teaching acceptance and normalizing and even encouraging participation in lifestyle that confuses young children into questioning their sexual identification as though some sort of game and then the parents in some cases allow it There are individuals who as adults may decide reassignment is their needed choice, but turning this into a game or parents normalizing it as some sort of natural alternative. Or believing that because little boy likes to play dress up in his sister clothes or girl and her brothers we should lead them steps further down the path that's far from the innocence of what they're doing with many children who have no real sense of sexuality or sexual experience caught up in the fun

1:23:17 of using pronouns and saying what they identify as. Some adults mistakenly confuse teaching acceptance with normalizing and encouraging a situation that has been a struggle for those truly affected, and have turned into a sad and dangerous fad." Well slow clap Tiffany pen tap for Paul Stanley! This is good right? So yes okay Paul you know... Of course you know it's just a tweet now oh the world comes to an end Oh no, oh boy. Paul Stanley what does he say? Now parallel to this a few weeks ago I didn't mention on the show because Dee Snider is a drip and you know Dee Snyder is the lead singer of Twisted Sister that pretty much only had one hit We're Not Gonna Take It

CHAPTER 22 / 45 Discussion

Dee Snider's History and Howard Stern Pitch

A host recounts a 2010-2011 era anecdote involving a $100 million offer to Howard Stern to join a podcasting platform. Following that event, Dee Snider allegedly contacted the host seeking a similar lucrative podcasting deal, claiming he could outperform Stern. The host characterizes Snider as a "money whore" who frequently attempts to attach himself to popular trends.

dee snider· twisted sister· howard stern· siriusxm· podshow

1:24:03 And I'm sure that he wrote it. Who else? I should have checked who else wrote the song, but when you have a song like that, you can... You get your royalties and the song is played over and over again in venues all over the world as an anthem for all kinds of stuff It's one of those hits that you could say- it's like writing White Christmas almost You know, the money just always comes in and you can always dress up with the eye makeup. Get your glam on get your high heels on because that's what Twisted Sister was you know the name Twisted Sister and you can always just do gigs because all you have to do is have ten songs five songs and we're not going to take it three times And that's our show goodnight Connecticut I mean its and its and I'm happy now you will remember

1:24:52 This must have been 2010, 2011? Maybe... yeah. Howard Stern interviewed me for SiriusXM And I made a pitch to Howard Stern. I said, hey you know, uh...I'm authorized which—I wasn't but we knew we could get the money—but I'm authorized to offer you, Howard Stern $100 million dollars to leave Sirius XM—I think his contract was up for renegotiation—to come over to Pod Show and we'll make a podcasting star out of you! You remember this? I do remember this. In fact, we had a big argument after this interview because you said it was a horrible interview and then you didn't mention... Oh my god! We had a real argument. Well yeah, you got all bent out of shape with my commentary You said that it was he was a horrible interview and I did not mention no agenda once and I was bad

1:25:45 And I would to me. Yes, not mentioning no agenda is a horrible interview period. Right? But it was the first moment that you really hurt me and then I said some really hurtful things to you and it was it was not a great moment for Adam but also you were total dick so...but then after that...But I am a total dick! This is what I realized that was the moment I'm like oh okay No, go on Okay Kara, Tina's even doing this now anyway So, like a week later Dee Snider calls me. Hey Adam! Hey man! Wow you know it's great I hear John with Howard and Howard and blah blah blah Howard and so this podcasting like cool tell me about it? And so I say oh yeah man we have this value for value model Yeah but what about the money can you pay me to do a podcast? I'm a great podcaster I can be really good when I'm on Howard I'm killing it I always kill it Who is this? Dee Snider from Twisted Sister

1:26:43 The lead guy, the glam guy. You know the glamour a guy Yeah and he's calling me and he just smells money He's a money whore Hey man oh yeah I'm always on Howard but I kill with him I can do a better job than Howard I can do great show better than Howard I'm Howard Howard Howard Howard I'm always on Howard Howard loves me I am great blah blah blah blah I said no well this is for Howard the money you're not Howard Oh man, come on! Come on!" He's not Howard. You're not Howard. That's what I said. Yeah well that's what you... yeah well it's like Well anyway i was like Dee Snider is a dick is what I thought that's that's what I recall from this conversation What a dick So a few weeks ago when more of the oh here comes euphemism or not even a euphemism anti-trans legislation

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San Francisco Pride Drops Dee Snider

San Francisco Pride officially distanced itself from Dee Snider after he defended Paul Stanley's comments on transgender children. The organization had planned to name Twisted Sister's "We're Not Gonna Take It" as the official anthem for the 2023 Pride event and feature Snider as a Grand Marshal. The partnership was terminated following the social media backlash.

san francisco pride· dee snider· twisted sister· trans rights· we're not gonna take it

1:27:36 Meaning Tennessee doesn't want kids to be at drag shows in public places. You know, minors... No! It seems like a normal idea but that is now anti-trans legislation they want to get rid of us they want to wipe us from the earth like the Jews did doing the same thing to us they did to the gays I you know this is all over the news and he comes out and he says You know, this is crazy. This anti-trans legislation because I can't even do my show in Tennessee because it could be seen as a drag show." Because he dresses up puts on the purple eye shadow fingernails painted He's got the high heels on but you know he has one song It's like watching The Freak Show. Okay

1:28:22 So he's trying to jump, because this is what he is. Hey man I'm as good as Howard! Hey man I'm as good as all the trans shows! I'd be great at a drag show! I'm great! God you don't like this guy? No I don't but you understand what he's doing... He's trying of course he's trying to set himself up with popular movement He's jumping on the bandwagon. It's called Bandwagon. Now remember he has... And the other guy that you mentioned earlier, that had the commentary on Twitter when he finished it off by saying is a fad this fad thing and I think that's correct. I think this is a fad and they'll come and go. Which is exactly why a Dee Snider jumps on the fad!

1:29:12 Oh, he's a fad I can get in on. By the way! I've got a great song for the trans community! We're not gonna take it! And- and... I would like to say One of the best glam rock songs ever no doubt about it great song You know what's now 40 years of? Children have used this as their rebellion song nothing wrong with that, but that's what you got bro That's all you got and now you're jumping on on the trans band the trans fat bang bandwagon But then all the kids all these rock guys are going hey Hey

1:29:50 Dee Snider? No! No, no, no. We're not on board with that we're gonna Bud Light your ass man and we don't like this you can have that song will go will rock out to you but we are not on board with the trans stuff Not the way it's being portrayed So he then idiot He, oh I've got to adjust everything. Oh what am i gonna do? So he then tweets something to Paul Stanley And this is now the subject of some great controversy. This is local news from San Francisco. The San Francisco Pride is distancing itself from Twisted Sister's Dee Snider after the singer defended anti-trans tweets made by former Kissinger Paul Stanley I love that this report, by the way it's going to be my evergreen nothing like this effeminate gay guy doing this report about these two old rock guys and this is peak trans bullshit

1:30:52 This is a bit confusing, but let me start with Stanley's tweet which was sent on Sunday. And in a nutshell it criticizes parents who accept their children who are questioning their gender identities So here's what happened with Snyder. Snyder saw this tweet, retweeted it and added this... You know what? There was a time where I felt pretty too! Glad my parents didn't jump to any rash conclusions. Well said Paul Stanley." So are you still with me? You're still with me on whats going on in this saga? It's getting funny. So now Pride San Francisco is mad

1:31:32 They're mad and there's a reason for it. It was all secret, we didn't know this was happening behind the scenes but in Dee Snider's infinite wisdom and his never-ending quest to jump on the latest fad whether it's podcasting or pro trans or anti trans he now screwed up so bad that the trans Pride community is mad. And here's where pride comes into this conversation. Pride had been set to announce Twisted Sisters' song, We're Not Gonna Take It as the official anthem of Pride 2023 So so this is money in the bank for D to have the whole pride community Adopting we are not gonna take it This would blow life into that song if this is another hundred thousand dollars a year easy easy

CHAPTER 24 / 45 Discussion

SF Pride Executive Director on Snider Controversy

Suzanne Ford, Executive Director of SF Pride, discussed the "painful" decision to cut ties with Dee Snider. Ford stated that there is "no moderate stance" regarding the self-identification of transgender children and that the organization could not stand by Snider's support for Paul Stanley. The segment highlights the PR team's original goal of using Snider's anthem to combat "anti-queer" legislation.

suzanne ford· sf pride· dee snider· anti-trans legislation· queer rights

1:32:23 Because he wrote it, he owns it. This is his moneymaker shake that money maker! But he pissed off the wrong people. The wrong people... Joining us now with the latest on this saga as Suzanne Ford the executive director of SF Pride Hi Suzanne Are you ready for Suzanne? Uh, no. Good morning Reggie! So full disclosure here you were ready to roll out with Dee Snider interviews with the media it was under embargo but in a few days we were gonna announce this partnership with Dee Snyder and with this song so what was your reaction when you saw this tweet? I'm just gonna be brutally honest here just because he don't have video This is...this is that I mean he may have transitioned fully but this is dude

1:33:12 Sharon, Rachel whatever his name is and any of the mannerisms it's just a dude he could be in Twisted Sister. So the whole thing is just blowing my mind now but the business of it is this really has... Dee Snider has screwed himself so badly with this! I was made me sick I mean, we were just on the cusp of making this announcement. Dee Snider was going to appear on the main stage at SF Pride and he was gonna be in the parade as a celebrity grand marshal and of course we cannot stand by his statements We have to stand up and say that was wrong And we had to end our association with him

1:33:56 How did this begin? Did Dee Snider approach you and Pride, and offer the song? Well we'd been looking for a way to stand up to all this hate out in the country. The anti-trans legislation, the anti queer legislation... Anti queer legislation?! This is new! What specific anti queer legislation? I don't know what it is We can't even define queer Yeah what is it? I dunno It's I don't know well we've been looking for a way to stand up to all this hate out in the country that anti-trans legislation the anti queer legislation and We were looking for a slogan

1:34:33 And our PR team, I said this is what we need to say. They said well why don't we just say? We're not gonna take it and that started the process and we did reach out to their people and D was great! He called me and said hey you can use this song That's what this song should stand for and then of course he preempted that with his statements supporting Paul Stanley Have you talked to D since this tweet came out I did. I had a painful discussion with him yesterday. Painful! Um, I think he realizes that he was wrong He thought he was taking a moderate stance Uh huh When it comes to self-identification for trans people there's no moderate stance We need to believe our trans kids when they tell us about their gender

CHAPTER 25 / 45 Discussion

Detransition Testimony of Katie Lennon

The testimony of Katie Lennon, a young woman who underwent a full medical transition including testosterone and multiple surgeries before detransitioning, is presented. Lennon describes the "social transition" as a non-reversible psychological lock-in and criticizes schools for excluding parents from these life-altering decisions. She warns of the high suicide risks associated with gender-confused youth.

katie lennon· detransition· testosterone· mastectomy· hysterectomy

1:35:17 Okay, there it is. We need to believe our trans kids when they tell us about our gender okay Let's hear from one of the trans kids Katie Lennon and Katie Lennon tells her story It's like many children in teens today I identified myself as transgender for years And when I started to feel confused and ashamed about my developing body I asked everyone in my life To call me by a new name and use male pronouns to refer to me so in other words I went through a social transition from female-to-male Everyone in my life immediately affirmed my new identity either out of full support for it or just to stay neutral and not cause any issues. But the constant affirmation, both active and passive solidified me in my transgender identity No one meant to lock me into an identity that would later leave me broken ashamed and more confused than before They were really all just being nice

1:36:04 But the social transition eventually wasn't enough, and I soon felt that I needed to take testosterone. And when that wasn't enough, I had a double mastectomy. And when that still wasn't enough, I had a total hysterectomy including the removal of my uterus, cervix, fallopian tubes and both ovaries There's no point in contentment during a gender transition We get fleeting moments of euphoria but ultimately one step leads straight into the next. Now I thought in the end I could really become a man but all I became was a mutilated and abused version of myself Social transition is a big deal and we're lying when we say that any of this is reversible. This is a big decision with lifelong consequences, and New Hampshire doesn't even require that parents be involved If the roles of mother and father don't include authority over the emotional social and physical future of their children The roles no longer mean anything

1:36:51 Like me, transgender-identifying youth have a high risk for depression. The Trevor Project which is an LGBT advocacy group reports that 45% of LGBT teens have seriously considered attempting suicide in the past year More than half of that number is transgender identifying youth. Teachers and school administrators are mandated reporters, and if a child's suspected to be four times more likely to attempt suicide than the other students his age, his parents have a right to know." So this is all coming from the schools we've discussed this and there's a slogan I learned the other day win the campus within the world as was going on here And even Bill Maher is now seeing this for what it is, what we identified correctly when we first went down this road of what is happening with transgender activism and removal of parents' rights allowing children to be literally captured. I have just story after story— Captured by the state? Captured by — well, I'll read a little bit of one of our producers

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Colorado "Trans Maoism" and Bill Maher

A producer's report from Colorado details state policies that allow children as young as 12 to consent to medical and mental health care without parental knowledge. Bill Maher is cited for comparing modern "woke" activism to Chairman Mao's Cultural Revolution, specifically the targeting of "the four olds" and the use of public shaming and re-education to enforce radical social shifts.

colorado· bill maher· mao zedong· cultural revolution· parental rights

1:37:54 He's from Colorado. I think you probably saw this note as well, been below the radar for past three plus years because i've been living the COVID trans Maoist nightmare with my daughter. I don't even know where to start and if I did my note would be too long for you to even read and you guys know how much I can write in my efforts to save my daughter and kids like her I've been exposed to human trafficking illegal drug dealers mental health institutions social services law enforcement district attorneys politicians all the way to governors school administrators mental health unprofessionals, and doctors and psychiatrists. I can truly say all these groups with the exception of law enforcement are in on co-opting our kids from their parents. Some are useful idiots for the politicians and bureaucrats pushing their molest agenda but it's ones that are aware of what they're doing that are truly despicable." So i'm going to go down his quick list here that explains the process that happened to his daughter who he was able to save but is a horrible story. I put it all on the show notes have taken out everybody's names in these notes

1:38:50 Here's the process. that he calls legalizing state-sponsored genital mutilation. One, hire radical teachers for indoctrination. Reduce age of... This is Colorado. Reduce age of consent for medical care like abortions to 15 without parental consent Allow children to consent for medical care at 12 without parent knowledge or consent Pass laws requiring state employees including teachers to use any bizarre pronoun Offer medical and mental health care in schools without parental consent Governor encourages kids to inject mRNA poison in their bodies without parental consent. Require mental health assessment for kids 12 and older, overriding parental objections and not informing parents of any care. After-birth abortions for kids as young as twelve without parental consent also come to Colorado and will abort your baby. Gentle mutilation and puberty blockers for kids without parental consent in violation of a UN resolution. Exposing yourself to a minor is now just a ticket

1:39:50 Not passed yet is lowering the age of consent for sexual contact to 11 including with adults. Yes, pedophilia." He goes on and on and he saved his daughter but it's a harrowing story and I'm just getting again email after email from parents in no agenda nation who have been exposed to this and are trying to protect their kids. So what is it on one hand? Yes, it's exactly what we've discussed that Bill Maher said which is Maoism. Yesterday I asked chat GPT are there any similarities between today's woke revolution and Chairman Mao's cultural revolution of the 1960s and he wrote back how long do you have

1:40:37 Because again, in China we saw how a revolutionary thought he could do a page one rewrite of humans. Mao ordered his citizens to throw off the four olds Old thinking old culture old customs and old habits so your whole life went in the garbage overnight no biggie And those who resisted were attacked by an army of purifiers called the Red Guard, who went around the country putting dunce caps on people. Yeah! Who didn't take to being a new kind of mortal being? A lot of pointing and shaming went on... Oh, and about 1 million dead. The only way to survive was to plead insanity for the crime of being insufficiently radical then apologize and thank the state and of course submit to re-education

1:41:29 or as we call it here in America, freshman orientation. So even Bill Maher sees what's going on and yes it is to a great degree political as our parent there points out that the politicians anything anything to make the Republicans look the worst Anything! Call them Christian... Christian radicals. No, not radicals no it was a fascist Christian fascists You know anti-trans legislation they hate children because this is gender affirming care We just heard from that young girl what gender affirming care is but now we go to dr Meg Meeker's podcast just one clip from from her and she Is talking to Irene Erickson

CHAPTER 27 / 45 Discussion

International Shift Away from Pediatric Gender Care

While the U.S. continues to promote gender-affirming care, several European nations have performed a "180-degree turnaround." The UK's National Health Service closed the Tavistock Clinic following an independent review, and Sweden's National Board of Health now states that the risks of puberty blockers currently outweigh the benefits due to a lack of reliable scientific evidence.

tavistock clinic· nhs· sweden· france· puberty blockers

1:42:25 And this is, she asked a question which I think is a pretty good one. Why is this really happening in America? As we know this has been stopped in other countries specifically the countries where it started which was the Netherlands but Sweden France and UK so what's going on why is happening to this degree in the United States Honestly and truly I've been practicing for 30 some years and I think maybe In 25 years, I saw one genuine transgender child. But something happened in the U.S., and there was an explosion—and we'll talk about that a little bit later—why does the US approach it differently than other countries?

1:43:11 That's a great question. It may actually be the only great question! It is political, is my observation it's not based on the science in fact you know that the United Kingdom had the largest pediatric gender clinic in the world the Tavistock Clinic and And they commissioned an independent review of the research evidence about this kind of protocol that I just described and what were the effects. and what was the evidence, how good was the research evidence in terms of quality. And based on their review just in the last two months they have done a 180 degree turnaround. They've closed that clinic and they have said we do not recommend this is the National Health Service in Great Britain We do not recommend social transition for children and we are not going to prescribe puberty blockers or cross-sex hormones

1:44:12 or surgery for minors unless they are part of a study we have approved that is set up to evaluate the effects. And this same kind of a cautionary approach is seen in Sweden. Just to quote you what the Swedish National Board of Health says, for adolescents the risks of puberty suppressing treatment and gender affirming hormonal treatments currently outweigh the possible benefits based on continued lack of reliable scientific evidence concerning the efficacy and the safety of both treatments

1:44:50 So the U.S is really out of step now with what's happening internationally and you know it does beg the question of why? So she says it's political, and of course it is but it's the schools where this is all starting And I took a deep dive because I wanted to know about these studies because everywhere I read from The New York Times gender-affirming medical care has been proven proven To be very beneficial So I found an article from Psychology Today because it is the therapists. It's the therapists who are reeling these children in and they don't care, therapists! And this is it This is from The New York Times pointed to from The New York Times as the evidence for trans youth gender-affirming medical care research suggests

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Psychology Today and AI Research Skepticism

The hosts analyze the research cited by *The New York Times* and *Psychology Today* supporting gender-affirming care, noting that many studies are from 2020 with small sample sizes. They highlight the lack of randomized controlled trials, which bioethicists claim would be "unethical" to conduct, effectively preventing rigorous scientific validation of the current medical protocols.

psychology today· new york times· gender affirming care· medical journals· clinical trials

1:45:44 gender-affirming medical care results in better mental health. 16 studies to date have been examined examining the impact of gender affirming medical care for transgender youth existing evidence suggests that gender-affirming medical care results in favorable mental health outcomes. All, all major medical organizations oppose legislation that would ban gender affirming medical care for transgender adolescents." John every single one of these studies is from 2020! Every single one

1:46:25 and all of them with 55 people, 60 people. They're all from 2020! All during the lockdown? Not a single one has been studied anything earlier than 2020. And with this they say oh well but you know that's enough One will notice, this article says there have not been any randomized controlled trials. Oh! But it's still a... that sounds like it's a valid trial There is a general consensus in the field that such a trial would be unethical given the body of literature we have so far indicating that those in the control group would be likely to suffer adverse mental health outcomes compared to those randomized to the treatment groups

1:47:13 For this reason, it appears that no institutional review board would approve a randomized controlled trial at this time under the principle of equipoise to which some bioethicists refer. I don't know what that all means but it seems to me like these trials are bull." In summary... Well you'd have to look at the trials and who paid for them to get a real handle on it, I believe. Yeah. Yes, I did not go that deep but if you look at the synopsis here a lot of them are Dutch. Puberty suppression in adolescents with gender identity disorder as prospect follow-up study Journal of Sexual Medicine Okay? Boy, I don't know what that is Young adult psychological outcome after puberty suppression and gender reassignment Pediatrics

1:48:13 Psychological support, puberty suppression, psychosocial functioning in adolescents. It's all Journal of Sexual Medicine so you know but... It's all in the exact same journal? There are no outside journals there here is the Nordic Journal of Psychiatry it's all psychological they're not that doesn't seem to be even being medical trials it's all about this the psychology but that's what The New York Times points to as proof that this stuff works and it's great So, I'm very skeptical particularly because there have been people transitioning having what used to be called a sex change operation for decades. But no none of that seems to be very important and then we have the media and I got a great deconstruction from one of our producers. I want to play this Kara Swisher clip again.

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Kara Swisher and Weimar Republic Comparisons

Kara Swisher's comparison of the LGBTQ+ community in Florida to that of the Weimar Republic is deconstructed. A producer points out that the Weimar Republic's laws against homosexuality were rarely enforced, and it was the Nazis who eventually targeted the community. The hosts criticize Swisher's rhetoric, noting her use of dehumanizing language like "mold" to describe political opponents.

kara swisher· scott galloway· weimar republic· florida· nazi germany

1:49:12 Because, you know she's a lesbian so you know she is an expert on all things and of course She takes us all to the political realm as well I'm just gonna play replay this from the last show. And the other thing is that he just I think underestimated Florida has a really robust and wonderful gay community They drive a lot of business there's...I mean there's whole parts I've spent a lot of time in Key West and the gay community is thriving there and At some point, the demo and democracy does kick in here. One would assume that I'm thinking of the Weimar Republic where it was a huge Berlin gay community and then they killed them. So you know, I think it can go a lot of terrible ways but I would agree this is dumb. This is so escalated fast

1:49:55 I'm sorry, but there was haven't you seen Cabaret? Haven't you seen Cabaret Berlin stories. Yeah, and you're right. People think it couldn't happen here again. I agree they can come at you But I do not think that that's where the country is in a different way of much We have obviously a much more vibrant democracy, much more diverse Democracy than they had in Weimar Republic and they had all kinds of economic issues post-war. All kinds of differences but they can come at you when I told you they were gonna come out 12th graders You'd said no they're not it's young kids and I was like no They're not its everybody there trying to try to win what they lost back

1:50:34 and they will do, they will stop at nothing. They never go away they're like mold these people. So our producer sends me this short note which I wanted to share because I think he did a much better job than we did on deconstructing what this woman said I'm listening to the podcast, just heard the Swisher-Galloway clip and the psychology of it disturbed me. First of all she mentioned that gay community in Weimar Germany was thriving and then they killed them! This is incorrect. The Republic had laws against homosexuality but they were rarely enforced hence the thriving community. It was the Nazis who killed the gays shortly after their rise to power not the Weimar Republic so

1:51:11 So the comparison to Florida is actually very apt, since the thriving community there is not in danger from Florida but from the people trying to subvert Florida. Moreover she then went on to describe her political opponents by saying they never go away they're like mold these people that is exactly the way Hitler talked about his victims In his books and his speeches he always referred to them as an infection or infestation that needed to be cleansed. This woman is deeply disturbed, and should be surrounded by trained professionals with butterfly nets before her career in art fails." A John C. DeVore protege I might add. You keep blaming me for everything! So yes yeah good points it's a that's a good analysis i agree with

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Screen Time and Alternative Education Models

The negative impact of increased screen time during COVID-19 lockdowns is discussed, with reports suggesting students are now two years behind in learning. An email from a staff member at North Academy in New York describes an "off the grid" school model that limits smart devices and laptops, resulting in significantly lower rates of medication, suicide, and social contagion issues among students.

homeschooling· screen time· lockdowns· north academy· special education

1:52:04 Then I have just a few more follow-ups here because, you know as we pointed out this also really does come from during the lockdown when kids were on screens. Screen screen screens And this is where they got subverted. They got subverted by social media, and they were... But you think the parents were not feeling good in the lockdown? No everyone felt very anxious and then they didn't feel good and teenage girls already have problems with feeling good about themselves and they were subverted by it. Yes I want to ask you while your are on just before you do this because it comes to mind a rhetorical question

1:52:51 The commentary about the kids on screens during the lockdown and not going to school, not going to school, not going to class, not socializing. But they're being on the screen all of time. They're at home homeschooling. They were getting their lessons. Teachers were there. They were telling them to do this and read this and do that and do this and that. And it turns out that all you hear now is oh! Because of that, the kids are two years behind. So in other words the screen time and all the learning from home and all the rest of it was useless, then if that's true which it seems to be. That's what they're complaining about then why is working from home so good? It's not! It can't be now if you base it on what happened during that lockdown

1:53:46 We had, this was last summer. One of the daughters was visiting and she had some of her friends from New York they also were in Austin for some reason and these I think you know like three guys probably two or three maybe all three gay I don't know but they're like lawyers like high-end, intellectual jobs. And they came out and they're hanging out in the pool and they literally would set their laptops up because they were working from home... They setup their laptops and they had all these little programs that move the mouse to make it look like they were working

1:54:23 Isn't that cool? It's very funny. And then from time to time they go in just even do a little something, open a document just to make sure that look like because you know it's all tracked by IT and we got a note from Alex. Gents want to follow up a couple items at the school I work out in New York State is OTG off the grid Families and students must pledge to limit smart devices time spent on them, etc. Many of our students even high schoolers have zero access to social media we are even pushing to limit laptops in the classroom and return to books and paper check us out at NorthAcademy.org In my five years here we've had in total one suicide

1:55:10 Less than five students medicated for ADD, ADHD depression etc. Zero students on IEP plans...I don't know what that was IEP? All students learn together look it up it's probably for special ed I'll look at it IEP plans all students learn together and we do not discriminate based on diagnosis or perceived differences zero trans in students zero trans students It does not even come up in class ever. As far as I know, we've had one student who identified as homosexual again accepted but not promoted the individualized education plan. There you go indoctrination to ensure a child who has a disability identified under the law and is attending an elementary or secondary of kids for this for disabled kids We are a boarding and day school send your kids But really any parents were interested can reach out to me on mastodon and it's a braffacy at no agenda social comm BRA

CHAPTER 31 / 45 Discussion

The Light Phone and Digital Detox for Families

A listener shares the benefits of switching to a "Light Phone II," a minimalist device with an e-ink screen and no social media access, to model better behavior for their children. The hosts recommend a suite of tools for parents to reclaim digital sovereignty, including Linux Mint laptops, standalone cameras, Umbrel home servers, and 2-meter ham radios.

light phone· linux mint· ham radio· digital detox· parenting

1:56:07 B-R-A-H P-H E C Y. Let's help save the 850,000 listeners and their children! I wholeheartedly believe our schools here in New York can help change some of these trends so just so you know... By the way it is probably an Epoxx Times NTD related outfit because they know how bad it can be This is.. So they have almost none of the issues that we hear about are rampant without the screens this is without the screens So we have another email from Mason. I heard the show, want to share my experience around children's screens and phones My wife and i have a 20 month old son who has kept almost entirely screen free no children shows No youtube, no phones, no ipads only screen used would be when we have a sports game on but he isn't interested in that 20-month old We've noticed that he is less interested in our phones than other toddlers we've seen Perhaps because he doesn't know all the fun things a phone can have

1:57:01 Having said that he is still interested in our phones because we're interested because we are interested in our phones He is clearly picking up on it quick note on low screen kids almost everyone who meets our son comments On his ability to play creatively with simple toys by himself and his engagement with us and other adults It's hard not to use screens as a crutch with kids, and it takes purpose But there are very real benefits to start showing up almost immediately And here comes several weeks ago after seeing him more and more interested in my phone I switched to a light phone too. Thelightphone.com, and put my iPhone in the drawer! I did this both to unhook myself from my device as well as help my son have a normal life

1:57:41 Abnormal by today's standards. The results have been immediate for both of us I'm less interested in my phone and he is not interested at all The phone has a black-and-white eink screen, very limited functionality so there is no draw for me or the child I was anxious to switch it first but after getting up and running I felt immediately freed from it all I share this because the light phone might be a good tool for others in Gitbonation, both in curbing their own addictions to these apps and for allowing older kids to have the ability to communicate without giving them access to anything online. And so I ordered one. I ordered a light phone and when it comes in, it'll do a full review but we've talked about it before on the OTG days and now I'm thinking if you want to save your child here's a list of things that I would like to suggest you give to your kids. A light phone too because you can call or text

1:58:35 punching in the number five times. It has a little actual keyboard, and there's no camera. It does have directions you can listen to podcasts and it...you can use it as a hotspot And with that, give your kid a laptop. Teach your kid how to put Linux Mint on it so the kid has an understanding that you control the device doesn't control you Give your kid a high quality standalone camera John would you like to give any suggestions because you always use these cameras Well, any camera from Olympus I'd say would be a good stand-alone camera. The little ones or if you want to just bite the bullet and buy a Nikon one of the ones using an APSC, one of the bigger sensors but a four third sensor is also good

1:59:23 Or full frame, but those cost too much so forget that. But just a little thing you put in your pocket and the lens zooms out... You can put millions of these yeah And then you take it home then you load it onto your laptop with Linux Mint and you can choose stuff Well it takes better picture generally speaking than a phone can Yeah but its all... Generally You could take pictures but you're not doing selfies Not doing selfies! And you cant get on any social media Then, parents I would recommend you look at an umbral or a start 9 home server so you can give your kid some stuff. They have their own little chat room with their friends that you can monitor and if you don't know what that is go to getumbral.com

2:00:05 It's all free. Then you should also give your kid a handheld 2 meter ham radio and both of you take the test, take the test! I mean this... Take the test! And then and you should encourage their friends to do this so they can talk to each other over distances. This $35 for these little things. Give them a library card get him a dog and an AR-15 and teach him how to use it yeah and probably a pocket protector Yeah, okay. If you're gonna be a ham you might as well have one of those I would rather my kid be a nerd than any alternative and then finally know that you have power to stop this insanity it is happening and it's unbelievable I didn't think it would happen but the Bud Light boycott is making a difference

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Bud Light Boycott and Marketing Arrogance

The boycott of Bud Light following its partnership with Dylan Mulvaney has resulted in a 26% drop in sales. The hosts attribute the failure to "marketing arrogance" and a disconnect between corporate VPs and the brand's core consumer base. Local distributors and blue-collar workers are reportedly leading the shift toward competing brands like Coors.

bud light· anheuser-busch· dylan mulvaney· inbev· boycott

2:01:00 The numbers are in, sales are down 26%. There's a poll done. I'm not big on polls this is a Rasmussen poll which is also of course like a right wing right leaning outfit but the numbers are clear that Budweiser and Bud Light is suffering significantly. They cannot bring themselves to apologize, I mean...I went out was talking to my... Yeah this is but stop! This is an interesting point they can't bring themselves to apologize they're afraid they're gonna offend someone by apologizing yep we didn't do anything wrong well that's the worst part

2:01:47 They're saying, well it's just one single can. Now remember we've talked about this. It's the distributors and local distributors own the business and these people are mad because they... Bars are saying nope I don't want Bud Light we're boycotting them Tommy who helped me you know we lost a tree during that big storm he comes over with his chainsaw and I go out and talk with Tommy He is from Waco originally And they all know, I'm not drinking Bud Light. Says you know what else I'm not doing? I'm not buying Nike shoes anymore and Tommy is 63 and he has his helper Ryan, he's 28 and Ryan said nope, nope, nope, nope, not doing it

2:02:31 Were they Bud Light drinkers before? They were Bud, well they would drink Bud White. I don't know if they drank Bud Light but they're boycotting all Budweiser products and all Anheuser-Busch products in general and they know exactly what beers are under the InBev brand and then nope no screw those guys And they're taking a stand, and it's working. It's working! What is happening is now the marketing community are freaking out because influencers... that was the business. Oh yeah, influencers. They're all over TikTok, they're all over Instagram. This is how we get our word out. That's why they gave this stupid Dylan Mulvaney his own can so he could tout that

2:03:21 I love when you blow your nose. And now all of these marketing departments are gonna be like, holy crap because the VP of marketing at Bud got fired. She's on leave. No she got fired then it was not even the Dylan Mulvaney thing so much it was well its a tired old fratty brand. The arrogance. Yeah the arrogance. The arrogance. Marketing arrogance is the worst. The incredible arrogance of it all And so keep it up, boycott. This is the American power and I don't know if Anheuser-Busch can recover because this is sticking. This is sticking and Coors and other brands that are non in bev are mysteriously going up

2:04:07 It's really going up. Now, so with all this of course you know what do you do about all? I mean social media is the problem screen phones are the problem there is an article Gen Zers are snapping up flip phones Wall Street Journal you know so I don't know we've seen these trends before but some of the kids are like yeah I'm sick of this stuff So, you know. And also it's too expensive these dumb phones the light phone $299 seems like a good deal I'll do review of that But, you know where I think ultimately parents need to take responsibility just as this email said they're the ones who are hooked on their phones. You've got to get off your phone. You've got to get a light phone. You've gotta change your ways because your kids are seeing it and you need to be aware of what they're doing. Be aware of these social media networks that's why don't give them a phone for it

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FTC Privacy Charges Against Meta

The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) has accused Meta of violating privacy promises and misusing the data of young users. The FTC is proposing a total ban on Meta monetizing data from users under 18. This follows a $5 billion penalty in 2019 related to the Cambridge Analytica scandal, with the regulator alleging that children are still able to communicate with unapproved contacts.

meta· facebook· ftc· data privacy· cambridge analytica

2:05:02 Let them do it at home on the laptop so you can look along, and you'll look over their shoulder. Kids are always going to do weird stuff that they don't know about but you have to be more involved and you can't just say I don't know, I don't understand it while your doom scrolling on TikTok ya morons! And of course our legislators, they have all these dumb ideas which will now be arguing about forever. A showdown over social media for kids as the US Federal Trade Commission accuses Meta parent company of Facebook and Instagram of misusing the personal data of its youngest users Facebook has repeatedly violated its privacy promises. The company's recklessness has put young users at risk and Facebook needs to answer for its failures

2:05:48 In 2019, Facebook agreed to pay a $5 billion civil penalty over data privacy practices in the wake of the Cambridge Analytica scandal. The FTC though says the company has not lived up to its commitments in that settlement alleging that children under 13 are still able to chat with parentally unapproved contacts and that the company is still passing private data to unused third-party apps Its proposed sanctions include a total ban on Meta monetizing the data of under 18s, a pause on the launch of new products pending compliance review and limits on the use of facial recognition technology. Meanwhile, a bipartisan group of US senators is calling for a total ban on social media for kids 12 and under. The technology industry's going to find all sorts of innovative ways to try to squash this bill because you know this is their

2:06:38 This is their profit center, our kids. And promoting really dangerous content often to our kids." Meta says the FTC's latest move is a political stunt accusing the regulator of overstepping its authority The company has 30 days to formally respond. And the reason why none of this works and none of this will happen and by social networks and social media it's always going to be around us because the Lib Joe's love it The liberal journalists love, all journalists probably but the Lib Joes are the worst. Oh we love and we're not ew screw Elon we're going to Mastodon! And then they were on Mastodon like well it's not exactly the way we like it and we can't find people and we can't count all of our views in our likes and here we go to the rescue Jack Dorsey releases Blue Sky have you been following blue sky?

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Jack Dorsey's Blue Sky and "Skeets"

Journalists are reportedly migrating from Mastodon to Jack Dorsey's new platform, Blue Sky, which they view as a "Twitter without Elon." The platform uses a federated identity model similar to Nostr. The hosts mock the new terminology adopted by users, such as calling posts "skeets," and the immediate calls for centralized moderation on the new service.

jack dorsey· blue sky· mastodon· elon musk· twitter

2:07:32 I've only heard about it. So, but I got a blue sky invite thank you very much one of our producers gave that to me And I'll just give you the technical background because this is not discussed. Blue Sky, the idea of Blue Sky is it kind of works like Mastodon where you have your identity or like Nostril as well You have your identity and that is yours and you can use this identity to check into different neighborhoods or different servers but you can be federated across the entire platform so Not a single reporter's reporting on what it actually is But what they did is oh

2:08:08 Oh, this is great. This is like Twitter without Elon! I've got an invite you gotta invite me. I can't even fight yeah I'm invite oh Jake Tapper's on there. Oh yeah AOC is on there oh yes this is great oh it's a let everybody show our boobs okay everybody show your butt okay the trance movement is here and all the lib joes love it You know why? Because you can quote tweet They're all, the whole platform is one lib joe smorgasbord. And so they're abandoning Mastodon as quick as they can trying to you know they're creating their own language yes! They're not tweets there's skeets. What? They're not tweets, they're skeets You know blue sky skeet. They are actually calling them skeets Yes I know I know Holy moly

2:09:07 So, I mean...I can just—I have to give you one of my codes. You must—you have to witness it. This is better than the secret Mastodon server we have? It is…they are so insane and so they're all gonna flock to this. This is the new thing! It's much better than Elon's Twitter. Jake Tapper skits The AI has such a weird take on my face Everyone is just gushing over how great this is and this is the new Twitter. So they're gonna keep... I will look into it. Yeah, now I'll give you my invite code. I only have one more. And that's a big oh how many invite codes? Oh well we need moderation! Oh yeah now there's they're talking about how they need to moderate

2:10:06 So keep children away from journalists, I would say. That's another good... Keep them away from journalists. Keep them away from news in general. Tell him to listen to the No Agenda Show! That'll be good for him. And you know what? You should teach your children value for value Yeah have them donate With that like thank you for your courage saying the morning to you the man who put the C in chat GPT ladies and gentlemen say hello to my friend on the other end Mr. John C Devore In the morning to you Mr. Adam Curry, also in the morning to all ships and sea boots on the ground feet in the air Subs in the water and all the dames are nice Let's measure them right away before they run away I think we're late today We only have one segment for reasons which will be obvious although we have some longer notes 1914 today? I don't know that doesn't seem like a lot people are abandoning us John

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Value for Value and "Too Many Eggs" Cookbook

The hosts promote the "Value for Value" funding model and encourage listeners to use modern podcast apps like Podverse and Fountain. They also highlight Mimi Dvorak's new hardcover cookbook, *Too Many Eggs*, which is available as a high-quality physical book or a free PDF. A prayer request is made for Seamus, the son of the show's clip custodian, who is undergoing medical treatment.

value for value· mimi dvorak· too many eggs· podcast apps· troll room

2:11:05 That's about a hundred higher than usual. Oh, really? Well for yeah this is not Sunday. Oh it's Thursday yeah of course that's right well those are the trolls they're in the troll room and you can find them at TrollRoom.io or if you have one of those brand new podcast apps your dumping the legacy stuff the ones where you know that your favorite podcast just might go away because someone decided they didn't like it and they removed her from Spotify or Apple? Even, you know... even the guys on Spotify are all saying that everybody says this except us. Wherever you get your podcasts from! Yeah! Which not to interrupt a segment but I do have a What's Wrong With Podcasting bit Oh well let's... hold on Let me finish this then we'll play the clip because that is what the donation segment is for It's for interviews with guests

2:11:57 And for clips. Clips like this one? Okay, so finish what you were doing. Yes, yes. You throw me off my game when you do that stuff Go to podcastapps.com grab yourself a modern podcast app now there are couple that have this troll room feature in it It's Podverse Curio caster podcast addict podcast guru with more coming And you'll be alerted just like a bat signal and you can pop right in. All your podcasts will be there, including the Noah Jenner Show podcast but also the live podcasts and more and more podcasts are doing this. This is the cool thing! You want to be part of that for sure. Now you can also follow us at noajendersocial.com I kicked that guy off

2:12:47 Ironhide, whatever his name was. Yeah that guy! And now he keeps trying to come in and he's like... He's posting all kinds of horrible things about us Like what? Well we're homophobic You know, we were boring We're old, we're stupid you know that kind of stuff Oh gosh I don't know what to do Well, but he insults people all the time. You know it's the thing that he over... Look I don't like kicking people off normally just ignore them or block them but you know I tried to calm him down in a private conversation then he started posting all our emails. No good get rid of him! He is no good Nick Exactly and no good Nick exactly by the way big shout out to Nick The Rat he had what we call a great get yesterday

2:13:42 A great get, which is a great guest. Did you hear the guest he had? Yeah he had my wife! Yes Mimi Dvorak! Did you get your book?! Not only did we get the book... We love our book Too Many Eggs toomanyeggs.com and will be discussing it on Curry & The Keeper because there's been an egg controversy in the family for a long time and we have answers Is is solved by the book? yes it is solved by the book I don't know if I'm happy with it but yeah its solved Oh so what didn't go your way The controversy. It's big, it's a big ass book what does that thing cost if you buy the book? I know you can download the PDF for free...I think it's $48 dollars I think is the... That's a good value

2:14:25 Yeah, it's actually we're underpricing. It's kind of like we're also giving away a free PDF yeah And so I mean we're in it to lose money So people should take advantage sounds like a podcast I'm like you many eggs calm and get her free PDF copy the quality of this book and the hardcover is Like a Tashin book you know what? I mean look more though no You know what a Tashin book is? No, I don't know the term. Tashin is a publisher and they do these beautiful coffee table books big size with a hardcover. It's not like it doesn't look like a self-published piece of crap. It's nice and then it looks beautiful on the table. We're pros! Yeah, we have publishing company. We know how to do this work. Look if you want to interrupt me I'm trying to hype the book up. Oh, I'm sorry keep going what am I doing I'm an idiot

2:15:14 And I also would like everyone to pray for our CLIP custodian's son, Seamus who had to go in for emergency chemo. It was really shitty so we want prayers for Seamus please thank you all very much. Good note! Yes alright... TooManyEggs.com just check it out and get a free copy. Great book it's a great book well there you go there's our business model yeah we just need to make products Just make products. As long as it's high quality, things take care of themselves. So I'm listening to one of the podcasts that are just loaded with ads for other podcasts

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Alec Baldwin Podcast Promotion Critique

A promotional clip for Alec Baldwin's iHeartRadio podcast, *Here's the Thing*, is critiqued for its stiff, "NPR-style" delivery. The hosts suggest that professional entertainers often struggle with the podcast medium because they attempt to maintain a formal, scripted persona that lacks the authenticity expected by podcast audiences.

alec baldwin· iheartradio· cheryl hines· podcasting· npr

2:15:58 Oh, what podcast is this? And so this is an ad for Alec Baldwin's podcast. And I want you to listen to... Do you think this...? This is a guy that's not geared to be a podcaster he can barely read the simple copy it just doesn't make any sense. You know they've tried to put him on TV interviewer and he thinks he's a really good interviewer but just listen to this. Hey it's Alec Baldwin, this past season on my podcast Here's the Thing I spoke with more actors musicians policy makers and so many other fascinating people like actress and director Cheryl Hines they were looking for an unknown actress

2:16:42 to play Larry David's wife. I said, well how old is that guy? Isn't he...old? Listen to the new season of Here's The Thing on the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. This guy's a professional entertainer Yeah, he's an NPR like guy. That's what he thinks a podcast should be you know I mean He's like I have to talk like this. I'm Alex Baldwin Yeah, you're probably right not probably. I just thought that was the worst promotion for a podcast ever Definitely not great. I wouldn't want to be promoted hey did you hear that? He got off yeah? He got off and they also they found him then not liable yes Thank You

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Episode 1551 Art Selection and "Media Colada"

The hosts review the listener-submitted artwork for the previous episode, discussing various entries including "Pizza Bigotry" and "Tranny Fluid" (a Bud Light satire). They ultimately selected "Media Colada" for its high production quality and its reference to a show segment about pineapple pizza. They emphasize the importance of unique art for every episode to maintain listener engagement.

podcast art· pineapple pizza· bud light· transmission fluid· media colada

2:17:36 So we got the follow Adam and Noah Gender Social dot com John C. Dvorak at no agenda social comment as part of our value for value model We're always asking you for is to To think deep inside your heart what kind of value did you get from this podcast? Can you give something back would you like to return the value? There's a number of things you can do, time talent treasure. We have people doing amazing work for us and boots on the ground reports is really being part of the large no agenda community we also love The Treasure Part is very important but we have artists who make art for us so we can always have a fresh piece of art

2:18:15 for every single show. And it is very beneficial, very few shows do this and people like it, it gets people interested they see it on social media or they see it anywhere you get your podcasts and they go what is this? Let me click on this and then are reminded that's no agenda because those guys have a new piece of art every single time so we want to thank the artists for episode 1551 that was our palindrome show Big Mike & The Rock And the art was from Capitalist Agenda. Now we had a hard time selecting a piece of art, this was it was a great piece We both liked the piece in general It was a tank in a pineapple which with ITM on it Which really didn't make any sense unless you heard the show which is what it is sometimes

2:19:08 But, you know we had the pineapple pizza we were talking about. The one that you liked the most was the Pizza Bigotry by Correct the Record You were a big fan of it as a piece of pizza that's with a sign and I was more a fan of Dame Kenny Bentz crushing the narrative You didn't like that at all. Oh, no that yeah I agree you'd like that one too so you had those two but i didn't like the crushing the narrative at all I just thought what was the point of this bump? I don't know So uh... No what you wanted was The new drug from Sir Net Ned! No I wanted coffee for kids first from Sir net net Right but we both agreed it wasn't clear enough that there was coffee needed a Starbucks logo They needed some logos and

2:19:57 a for example Starbucks logos on the coffee even though this promotional I think would at least make the point yeah yeah but you like that the new drug because it had take twice weekly contains part curry one part Dvorak media deconstructed. You liked that one? I did like that one but you poo-poo'd it because when you don't like art, you claim its unreadable! Yeah so a a bone of contention arises once again. So you nixed it! Let's be honest, you like comic strip bloggers butts? The K-pop butts? Yes you did I thought that was cute use of some sort of butt But then the fallback was the one we picked which is Media Colada Media Colada that's what it was yes and

2:20:49 Because it brought in the pineapple which was part of the pizza story and it, the rest of it was just nonsense. But it was a nice piece that was well done and so we picked for its quality It wasn't good piece And I see people have already been making new pieces for this show We... I also by way I also like to bring this up from Mick McGooey, uh... tranny fluid. Yes! It was too small! But for the Bud Light it was a transmission fluid with Bud Light on it. It's an automatic trans-fluid. It was great! It was a great piece but the

2:21:29 The can of oil or what transmission fluid is too small. Yeah, it's really that is too small you even blowed up You can't read the automatic transmission fluid or automatic Transfluent it was a very funny joke It would have been executed I think it would have been a winner people would have thought it was very funny. It is funny I think it's still funny but it's not just too dinky yeah And now and now the joke is gone. I don't think we can do it anymore. No, the jokes over. It's too old All right Let's thank our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1552 of the best podcast in the universe We a lot of 3333 dot thirty threes and some longer notes everybody

CHAPTER 38 / 45 Discussion

Southwest Airlines Pilot "In The Morning" Shout-out

A Southwest Airlines pilot and "No Agenda" knight, Sir BNA, shared a recording of his pre-takeoff announcement in which he uses the show's catchphrase "In the morning." He has been incorporating the greeting into his PA announcements for two years, hoping to identify fellow listeners among the passengers and crew.

southwest airlines· aviation· nashville· in the morning· air traffic control

2:22:19 But I think in general we can just considering we have no nights. No title changes We have only one meetup report We can blow through this in one go instead of doing instead of breaking twice and still give you some good show for the money In fact May I play something that only people who listen to the donation segment will hear and all those other people who went away, those losers will be missing out on? Sure. Okay so we've been told that we have a lot of fans in aviation That's understandable...I am an aviator And we have air traffic controllers who are thrown out in the mornings from time-to-time We like that very much

2:22:58 In Nashville, we met Steve and Jessica. And they are pretty much the Ken and Barbie of The No Agenda Show He is a pilot for Southwest She is a flight attendant for Southwest Beautiful! He's 7 feet tall You know she has got the blonde hair and great people Fantastic! He's a knight Ooh, I wrote this down. She has... she's an interior designer as well, I think and she has... Tina is gonna kill me because I wrote down the name of her shop. Anyway! We'll get that in a moment

2:23:45 So, Steve sends me a note. He says you know I like that ATC is...you know the guys are throwing it in the mornings. I haven't heard one yet but when I do I'll be sure to respond with in the morning he says for two years you know Southwest they can they do their own little thing Yeah, they have a comedy act that they do in the plane which was taken from PSA Pacific Southwest Airlines which is where they stole many of these ideas except for this smile that used to be on the plane. But they do a comedy act when they tell you put your seatbelt built on it's very complex sometimes actually have a comedian on the plane doing along sketch Yes so its dogwoodproper.com is Jessica's store

2:24:31 So they have a lot of leeway to do whatever they want on the public address system. Steve says, I've been doing this that what you're about to play for you for two years and not all my co-pilots understand it but it usually results in me hitting them in the mouth so imagine your in Southwest this is the pre takeoff announcement and he had one of his flight attendants record this for him okay here we go Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard in the morning from Paul and Steve up front where your pilots flying you to St. Louis today I'll be off the getting on our way in just a few more minutes have flying time to st. Louis today one hour and 33 minutes We will headed to St.Louis at a cruising altitude of thirty three thousand feet St.. Louis weather last-hour reporting mostly sunny skies looks like the temperature there mid 70s with winds light out of the north

2:25:35 Getting off the gate and on our way shortly. Thanks for choosing us here at Southwest today, welcome aboard in the morning He says he has not heard an in the morning back yet In two years that he's been doing it but you gotta love that That'd be great to be on that plane I'll be right I'll be storming the cockpit. I love these guys All right, let's kick off the donations today with builder Mike in Eddystone, Edison Pennsylvania 333.33 In the morning this notice to accompany my donation in commemoration of my birthday My 61st which happens on a show day this year Birthday list you're on it I'm also attaching the file for Barnhart Donation Barnhart Donations I first heard

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Executive Producer Donations and Knighting Ceremony

The show acknowledges high-tier donors who contributed $333.33 or more, granting them Executive Producer credits. Notable donors include "Builder Mike," "Sir BNA," and "Sir Tooth Fairy." The segment includes the playing of custom jingles and "karma" requests for various personal life events, ranging from birthdays to new relationships and medical recoveries.

donations· executive producer· knighthood· value for value· jingles

2:26:29 Hey, if you're donating $333.33 you can have a donation jingle. I like the cash register. Yeah we like it alot. Barnhart Donations I first heard of No Agenda at MoFax while listening to the Barnhart podcast a few years ago. Oh, okay! And became a regular listener after i asked the Barnhart podcast to recommend a source for news. Thanks guys! I'm on a recurring donation made during my double up promotions and this is my first executive producer donation be assured of my prayers along with those of the good folks at barnhardt.biz that's b-a-r-n h-a-r-d-t dot biz for you and John C thank you for your courage

2:27:09 Non time bit car mayhem. My heart shall not fear okay? Nice, thank you very much throwing in some Latin you're on the list you got a man Thank You all right next is Dennis O'Brien out of Brooklyn and He gives us three three three dot 3-3 and I'm gonna skip one of his paragraphs cuz Today's his 33rd birthday, he is on the list. I've been listening for almost exactly three years as such it's high time to finally give you some of your much deserved V4V please dedouche me! You've been de-douched. And he'd like a Jobs karma and a sampling of Al Sharpton He says he doesn't catch every show like he used to but i still try and listen when i can It's a rare and precious thing in American media that he'll hear

2:27:57 Well-informed opinions from smart guys with interesting life experiences who don't have to impress anybody or worry about getting sacked for pissing off the wrong billionaire This show is special. Please keep it on a final note to my fellow Woppy's commit these words to memory No conspiracy is necessary where the interests of the powerful are aligned They'll still call you crazy, but 1 in 10 might stop and think about it for a minute. Stay safe or else! Jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs! You've got karma Tonight is the measure of whether the country begins in the state of Wisconsin A national drive to push back

2:28:44 or whether we have more to go to build a movement of resistance. But resist, we much! We must and will much about that be committed. Classic, classic Sharpton. Classic was the classic. Corporate Legal Eagle is in Baytown Texas 333 dot 33 first-timer corporate legal eagle from Texas you have inspired me I have moderated primary debates for local political organizations and plan to launch a bid for a district judge seat the Texas torque wrench for precise application of law thank you

2:29:24 333 33 comes from Sir BNA in Nashville, Tennessee. This is our pilot! This is our Steve, our Southwest pilot right here. Steve Banstra, Sir BNA he says note for three things hey get Mo Nation Mother's Day is May 14th that's coming up And my smoking hot wife Jessica has the perfect gift box for mom. Here we go! www.dogwoodproper.com I've been using in the morning on all my welcome aboard PAs and ATC radio checks, and then we played one of them Hopefully this trend will be changing In other words he wants to hear from some

2:30:08 No agenda listeners when you leave the plane, you can say something. In the morning! If John trained Kara Swisher then... Then when a bit go-ahead is spoken shouldn't Kara colleagues say okay John rather than Adam say okay Kara? Huh? Yeah sure Okay jingles boogity boogity and that's true thank you for your courage Steve Ok maybe I should do the uh that's true first It sounds a little better that way. Oops, yeah come on it's true here we go. That's true

2:30:49 I feel bad. Should be... It's true, that's true? Is it it's true or is this- IT'S TRUE! It's true! Maybe is it this one? IT'S TRUE! No thats Trump We lost it we lost its true I don't know what's going on now we that's not possible That's not true uuuuhhhhhh But it's not lost it just lost Something's gone. How about this? Misplaced! Here we go, thank goodness. There she is! Glad we have her. Maynard Throne is in Tracy California 333 dot 33 short and sweet I'm a driver for a large grocery chain John really nailed it when he said we are educating truck drivers listeners since 2016 that we're educating truck drivers

2:31:29 Listener, since 2016 a denotation is long overdue. Please dedouche me. You've been de-douched! Along with a John donate, donate, donate... Let's see and that is this one and peace and love to you both No I'm sorry Maynard uh Throne Tracy California This the one? You've got... Donate! Karma Nice! Nailed it. Do you have the note? Because I don't have it. Yeah, I do... Let me go and grab that There's two notes which one is this Christopher? Uhh..I found it Good Hey, this is Christopher Pagels who came in with 333.33 And I'm sure mispronouncing his last name

2:32:26 And he writes, hey John and Adam this is Christopher from Monomany. Monomany? Mono-money. Monomany! Monomany! Monomany! Monomany! Monomany! But I keep saying...I can't say monomany. Monomany. Enjoy this at check three three three three. That's good the show as of late has been lacking in sumo analysis oh the reason is because the tournaments are every other month John, what did you think of that Kiribyama's Yusho win and what is your thoughts on the May tournament? Is it Hoshiro's time? You know speculating on who's what sumo is gonna win the tournaments I've always found to be kind of weird because this like

2:33:14 I don't know how to say it, but it's like speculating on who is going to win the NASCAR race. And they do it! Oh, I think so-and-so is gonna win... No! You never know who's gonna win. It's just some guy gets lucky and wins a few key matches Also can you say, it's scary my niece thinks that your best catchphrase? No no no, scam. You gotta say it right. It's a scam. Let me get it right. IT'S A SCAM Nice. Stay dangerous, Christopher! Thank you. Michael Dorman is in Redmond Washington 333 in the morning gents thanks for all you do please accept some value for value jingle ants in my pants I think he means ants the ants classic ants we'll play a little bit of it may I please have some relationship karma as I'm starting off something with a new special lady peace and love to you both of course just a little bit of that for ya Just a little bit of the ants...ants...ants...I got ants

2:34:10 I got ants. I got ants. You've got karma. Lauren Pal- uh, Pala- Pal- Palawoda. Palewoda. Palidowa- There's a way of pronouncing this and like not gonna get it. Palowada! Polo Pala Wota is what it looks like to me, but okay. She's in Chandler whatever the case Arizona she comes with three three three as did Michael Dorman How do you bow howdy to you both? As much as I would love to say no jingle no jiggles. She's got here Yeah Guts no jiggles no jiggles No Karma. I can't

2:35:03 Could I get a foamer, trains good planes bad and some goat karma at the end of the note? Let me be brief. I just made this donation very early in the morning while my smoking hot boyfriend is asleep his birthday was on April 29th and i failed to get him a birthday shout out on The Sunday Show so I had the idea that donate 333 and ask would it go towards the eventual knighthood of Eric Bradley but I would like executive producer if that's not too much to ask Of course. Good for you! Yeah, I agree Anyway...I know he's listening to the live show so i guess this is somewhat of a surprise for him Happy belated 27th birthday to you Harsh...Harshkopf? Harshkopf What is it? Well, It's German

2:35:55 You're 33, 33 closer to being a knight now. Love you! Mean it! Oh my god! Wooo! Listen to that horn! All aboard trains good planes bad! You've got karma Greg Birch. Oh, there's Greg Birch? Yeah he is a baron. He is our dental... Baron Greg Birch. He is the official No Agenda dentist. Dental professional from way up north in Port Angeles Washington $300 thank you Greg Birthday May 6 first one without my father I'm sorry ma'am I also understand all too well how much Adam surgery cost Not overboard haven't missed the show Cheers Sir Birch Thank You Thank You Sir Birch

2:36:45 Nice guy. I still use one he was the first one that turned me on to the sonic hair toothbrushes He sent me one and I've been using ever since. Yeah, he sent me one too mine blew up I had to buy another one it blew up like exploded in your face. It blew up like a vape Sir John and Blaine Minnesota nuts 299 he becomes associate executive producer And he says best show ever last Sunday. I believe very interesting The Tucker and Dawn analysis Don wanted to get a quick donation off before the deadline and can't wait And can't for the life of me find what exact email is for the note Adam Would you please tell that listeners out there? What's a note address is? notes Notes, notes. N O T E S at Noah gender show net notes at Noah gender show dotnet That's notes at Noah gender show dotnet

2:37:43 Went to the rickety Dvorak dot org page which is being changed as we speak And it still says to send money to John at the door or send notes I don't remember that but if it did, I got it and I forwarded to Jay who put in a spreadsheet not and not unless it said donation in the subject line. It said donation in the subject line wisely. Yes So there I guess its official though. I swear he goes on Keep them coming guys of the great at best show he ever did no jingles. No karma, sir John of the Dunkirk mudflats Baron of Whistler and whistler BC I've been to Whistler fantastic that glacier up there California a Canadian. I'm sorry 244 91 this is 333 Candian avian That's right. We have to upgrade him you are upgraded and got in a list to be upgraded we still do that even though your money is getting pretty pathetic

2:38:35 I mean, it's short. You're short! You're short changing us by like 60 bucks crazy Our dollar keeps tanking my annual May 5th birthday donation John forgot So I can't complain about the Cinco de Mayo promo this year What did you forget? I forgot to plug the tomorrow's Cinco De Mayo Oh Happy birthday to Theo. Theo's on the list, I guess? No no yeah he is he is on the list Is it your Theo? Theodore? Theo Dvorak yeah Oh Theodorable! How old is Theodorable turning? He's gonna be six Aw man are you still making him do crazy stuff Like what? Stuff that his mother hates

2:39:22 Oh, well I mean if possible yeah of course. What's the latest? Give us a latest. Well i haven't got any latest ones because you know he's been grumpy and he's not uh... oh it's just we haven't had the opportunity He's a Dvorak! He's grumpy! Grumpy kid. Ah happy birthday to Theo thanks for keeping it real regards Baron of Whistler Luge goat karma please Yeah we go that for ya man You've got Sir Tooth Fairy in Valparaiso, Indiana. Uh... hey guys John I received my copy of Too Many Eggs the other day! Nice What a wonderful cookbook please tell Mimi i'm greatly enjoying it and can't wait to try some of the recipes this weekend

2:40:10 Well, that'll keep you busy. Adam thank you for sharing your dental implant experience! Your hearing improved after the infected molars being removed is very interesting I've been screening my hard-of-hearing patients for undiagnosed sinus infections since i heard your story Cool Thanks for all you do. And Adam, could you please not be so short with John? What is this?! He means well! Yeah and I agree with Sir Toothfairy. What do ya mean!? I'm not short with you! Yak karma for all please, Sir Toothfairy. Finally Wow...I would appreciate you letting me know if you've found any undiagnosed sinus infections and that and i need to hook up with Mitch Maverick

2:40:58 My periodontist. We're gonna start a revolution, I think All right yes of course we got yak karma for you no problem You've got... karma Those are the executive and associate executive producers for episode 1552. We thank you all very much these credits that you get are permanent they never go away, you will always be an executive producer or associate executive producer of this episode You can flaunt that broadly wherever you feel like it you could put it on all kinds of places your resume a LinkedIn profile

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Associate Executive Producers and Small Donations

A list of Associate Executive Producers and donors contributing under $50 is read, including supporters from Michigan, Texas, and the UK. The hosts thank the "sustaining donors" who provide consistent monthly support, which is vital for the show's independent operation. They also mention a $160 cash donation received via PO Box accompanied by a military-style patch.

associate executive producer· donations· value for value· anonymous donors· accounting

2:41:34 IMDB, you can actually use this and start an IMDB profile. They are accepted and they are recognized there And unlike the douchebags in Hollywood if anyone questions this we'd be happy to hop on the phone and vouch for you We got a couple of meetups to talk about John's gonna take us through to the 50s right now Matt saying yeah, we do have a few people to thank continue to think I'm starting with Matt and st Claire And this is just names and amounts man st. Claire. It's Matt in st. Claire Michigan 133 dot 33 Urbana boulders Oh, it's boulders is it really boulders not builders?

2:42:14 I don't know. But anyways, Urbana Boulders LLC in Urbana Illinois, Illinois. Barron Ladekin in Houston Texas John Robinet parts unknown Ron Shambless in Attica in the Indiana Metal dog machines in Rocky Mountain House, Alberta. 100. Send us a machine to try! I want a machine! And I want a boulder! A boulder would be handy. You could use one of that in your yard. Patrick Brandon 86... oh by the way those are all $100 donors sorry

2:42:55 Patrick Brandon is 86-86. Kevin McLaughlin's back with 8008, seeing how just how many can he do? Yeah Gabe the... and he's in Locust North Carolina. Gabe the farrier what's a farrier you think? Farrier or fourier It says farrier and it came right off the spreadsheets Brentwood California 8008 Send us one! Send us a farrier 808. Wyan, Wyan Cortini in Torrington Connecticut 7421. Corey Rule in Marion Iowa 7183

2:43:34 instrument check or something. I'm not sure what he wants. Sarah Hubert in Mitcham, UK sent us a really sweet note on a piece of... On a pig? On a pig and she is just an interesting note she's I guess does murals or something She's like she's an itinerant artist they want to thank her for that But why don't you read the note if she took the trouble of sending it on a pig Yeah, I have it. You have it once you read it in the morning John Adam Here's my rather late happy birthday John donation you see is important me Oh yeah It is for me 71 58 58 P That's Pence is for my birthday which was on the fourth? It's late because I was value-for-valuing in a remote rural South African

2:44:23 Zoza village. Oh, I've seen I've seen Sarah's work She sent me a picture of this I paint murals and teach local artists in return for accommodation and meals check out the beautiful Bulunga Lodge, pronounced B-U-L-I-N-G-U-LA. Bulungula at Bulungula. Ulu ula bulu! Bulungula! Hey! It's racist I know! You're out! B-U-L-U-N-G-U-L-A dot co dot Z-A for South Africa In my five weeks there I unplugged from everything except The best podcast in the universe. Unmissable! Love is Lit from Sarah Huber, thank you Sarah that's a nice note worth it yeah she's actually famous Max Windham in spring Texas $68 Hendrick

2:45:12 Jalink. Jalink, jalink. Jalink in Heerde. Heerde. Neh- Herda. Herda. Gotta get that E in there. Heerda. Hindrik Jalink in Heer... Heerde! Heeerde! Heeerde! Heeerde! 55, 56 and he wants to give a shout out to Ann Peter Strychverda In? Heerde! They're doing it just to get this out of you. You should be sending more money for that people, you're making my monkey perform come on let's send more money. Brian Furley 5510 parts and no answers anonymous in Liverpool

2:45:57 Oh, Mercy Size. UK 5510. Arlis Degena in Levitown New York I need some karma we can put you at the end there for you 5446 and i could have the name wrong digna and Bob Butler's next incoming Georgia 5069 Mike Vaughn in Clarkston Michigan 5036 with a birthday Dame Dame Knight is who this is. Hold on a second, Mike Vaughn also says missed make good from show 1500 Need some baby-making karma I'll do that for you Mike. I got the baby making come we got the special baby making karma So Dame night and Edmonds Washington is 5015 and now we've got two $50 donors Few of them Clara Thornhill stop it starts it off in Toronto

2:46:47 Dotted Mind in Lincolnshire, UK. Tony Lang in Castle Plants Colorado. Send us a dotted mind with the machine. We need a dotted mind! We needed a couple. Tony Lang and Castle Plants Colorado Jordan Huyno in Salem Oregon Justin Heiner in Vine Grove Kentucky Jacob Martinez in El Monte, California. Anna Drake in Whitestown Indiana. Kurt Patrick in Nanaimo BC on the island James Sherametta in Napa Nock New York Charles Peterson Albuquerque Baron of Belmont in Belmont North Carolina with a birthday shout out Brian Watson and Raleigh North Carolina Walker Phillips in San Rafael California and last but not least

2:47:39 by Ichi Kitagawa in San Francisco. I have one note that came into my PO box which is always a little confusing, $160 in cash from and it's handwritten note. Podfather hope this note finds you well and resting post-surgery please find my long overdue donation. I'm not worthy of any awards or accolades I kindly asked for Carba from my smoking hot wife and two human resources as cheers waffled or wolfhound It's kind of hard to read and he gave me a cool patch, which looks like Some service some military service that shoots down Chinese balloons

2:48:21 And try and get that to the right PO box people, because now I have to send it to John. It ruins the accounting and it's already sketched so we got... We have to keep everything on the up-and-up but thank you very much! We appreciate that. Thank you to everyone who also came in under $50 That is typically because you're on one. You want complete anonymity and there's one reason for you, but also people are some of these sustaining donations which are incredibly important particularly when we have one donation segment then those things really help We appreciate that and if you'd like to learn more go to the still old page But a new ones in the works as we speak And here's the karma for everybody who needed I'm adding a goat you've got

2:49:08 And thank you all very much for supporting the best podcast in the universe episode 1552. Our formula is this, we go out and hit people in the mouth. Our birthday list includes Sarah Hubert who celebrated today, April 4th. Lauren Paloada wishes her smoking hot boyfriend Eric Bradley a bladed happy birthday. He turned 27 on April 29th. Oh wait, Sarah was April 4th! That's an old one I'm sorry. Mike Vaughn turned 36 on April 30th

CHAPTER 41 / 45 Discussion

Global Meetups and "I Might Be High" Report

The "No Agenda" community's upcoming meetups are announced, including events in Toronto, Chicago, and various locations across Virginia and Maryland. A recording from a recent Toronto meetup, dubbed the "I Might Be High" report in reference to Canadian cannabis laws, features local listeners expressing their support for the show's media deconstruction.

meetups· toronto· chicago· new jersey· virginia

2:49:57 We have the Baron of Belmont wishing his comrade John Thrower a happy birthday. That was May 1st. Builder Mike turning 61 today, Danelle Mackey celebrating today Theodore, the Theodorable Dvorak tomorrow may 5th Baron of Whistler also tomorrow may 5th Greg Birch our dentist up north may 6 and Dennis O'Brien is turning 33 Happy Birthday from everybody here at the Best Podcast in the Universe No one should know, me no! I'm going to the Austin meetup on the 13th. Tina's going to be in New York visiting her daughter, that'll be for Mothers Day so i'm gonna bring my buddy Jimmy. So looking forward everybody at Doc's Backyard on the 13th We had one report this is the I Might Be High report their 10th

2:50:57 10th coming together as a meetup. In the morning, John and Adam we had our tenth Meet Up in Toronto Ontario Canada in honor of Canada's Bill C-11 we bring you the I must be high meet up report How many donators are in this room? My name is not Troy and I'm really high In the morning, Adam and John from Toronto. Still a douchebag so sorry broke musician I'm a douche baguette This is cool! Adam Curry DM me...I'll come up with something In the morning Bitcoin I could buy weed with it right? They actually were high That's impressive It not just a slogan those guys mean it

2:51:47 Starting right now, if you're in Brookfield Illinois the May the 4th Be With You meetup is kicking off. That's for Chicago Central Irish Times pub and restaurant On Saturday the Hoosiers Fort Wayne Club 33 weekend dancers meet up one o'clock at Howes Tavern a tavern and Coventry in Fort Wayne Indiana We have The Secret Chinese Spy Balloon South Jersey Meet Up on Saturday at 1 o'clock at Miller's Alehouse Mount Laurel New Jersey Hogan's Heroes meetup in Ohio, Michigan the Ohio Michigan mixer one o'clock at Liberty Aviation Museum That's in Port Clinton. Ohio you must RSVP sir Timothy of no fixed title is organizing that the Delaplane Virginia new location spook me to up I guess barrel oak winery and brewery in Delaplane, Virginia All right if your spook you need to be there

2:52:36 Also on Saturday, the Virginia Maryland West Virginia Tri-State Data Science Meetup. Madison Village Apartments Clubhouse the main room in Winchester Virginia. Two spook meetups and the Making Our Own Milieu at four o'clock New York time Cleveland Draft House Garner North Carolina there you go TJ The Redhead At The Bar is organizing hey now! And on Sunday our next show day the Build Snohomish Back Better Snohomish, Black Better. Three o'clock Pacific South to Summit Brewing. Snohomish Washington Lady Jane is...Lady 3 Jane is organizing that we got a lot of meetups all the way through where I see May otherwise at the end of June already and you see how the Netherlands couple of them even in Amsterdam meet up in Leiden on the Netherlands going insane

2:53:27 All kinds of meetups. This is something that you need in your life, if you go to one and you're guaranteed you will go to another one even when you're vacationing somewhere before you know it but hey there's a meetup! You'll always be checking it Go to joegendermeetups.com Look around search around If you can't find the meetup near you start one It's easy and it's always a party Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days You wanna be where you want It sure is how we doing on time oh man You know, we only one donation segment. We make more you do more power Do more podcasts so a couple of things I wanted to play given ISO

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Belgrade School Shooting and Parental Responsibility

A 13-year-old boy in Belgrade, Serbia, opened fire at his school, killing eight children and a security guard. Because the suspect is below the legal age for criminal responsibility, Serbian President Aleksandar Vučić is seeking to lower the age of responsibility and has ordered the arrest of the boy's father. The incident occurred despite Serbia's strict gun control laws.

belgrade· serbia· school shooting· aleksandar vucic· gun laws

2:54:20 I do have an ISO. How many do you have? I appear to have four for some reason Well, i have one and so I think you're gonna win but here's my one You're okay Oh goodness Yeah, I mean I could I could fart and do a better echo win the ISO contest over that one Let's see what I got Wow. That is really interesting Okay, that's it right there let me play the other three just the same guy who said wow I'm really high you're not great at stoking outrage Oh, what a shame little to produce? I think What's this one? Ooh? Yeah, okay

2:55:03 And my last one Russian disinformation It's cute, but no it is definitely this one. Huh? Wow that is really interesting Because it's really not. Okay, we'll use that one. That was cute. All right good what do you got? You got some... Yeah I wanted to talk a little bit about two clips because it's so in you know It's not being reported well here in this country as usual because M5M has their they have there's their walking papers or their orders or whatever they call it. Your orders! My papers! They get their orders and they're not gonna put too much about this Belgrade school shooting in Serbia Oh okay good one. I'm glad you got this

2:55:43 So here we have two, I have two clips and one of them has a little tidbit that won't be talked about much. And the other one has kind of another little tidbit they don't want to talk about so let's play the Belgrade school shooting this is Al Jazeera. The parents of a 13 year old boy accused of opening fire in his school in the Serbian capital Belgrade have been arrested. The city's mourning the deaths of eight children and one security guard Police say the suspect used his father's gun in the attack, but the boy is not expected to be charged because he is below legal age for trial. Instead Serbian President Aleksandar Vučić is looking to change law concerning age of criminal responsibility and says that boy will be placed into psychiatric institution.

2:56:33 So they're doing something that it was always talked about in this country, you know and it just disappeared from the face of the earth Arresting the parents for their bad seed Yeah. And now is this kid drugged up? We don't have any, probably not in this case but who knows maybe. But whatever the case was the parents of the 13 year old shooter were arrested I think if we started doing that here it might change a few things. I would think so So the parents were arrested and then you hear this other little tidbit in the end of the second part of this report which I think is another reason not to really talk about it too much. Fire on students inside a hallway before entering his history classroom he showed to the teacher first

2:57:22 then turned the weapon on his classmates as they tried to flee, killing and wounding many. I was walking up the stairs and could hear a sound that I thought maybe were kids throwing firecrackers having fun but then I could hear it more and the sound was coming from front of school. I saw security guard falling down so quickly ran from where I was A security guard is also among the dead. The teacher left fighting for her life. This tragedy occurred in the Vladislav Ljubnik primary school of the Vraca municipality of the city of Belgrade, unfortunately eight children died and one security guard was also killed. The injured children and one schoolteacher have been hospitalized no-one can bring these children back to their parents

2:58:10 As parents and emergency services hurried to the elementary school in the Serbian capital, the suspect was on the phone with police confessing the shooting before being arrested in a schoolyard. Described as quiet and good pupil and said to be new to class He was led away by police, his face covered. There is yet no known motive for an attack that the police said was carefully planned. This was the list of children he intended to kill. He did it alone. He made a plan himself – the plan of entering and exiting school. It was found on his desk. And as he said, he determined priority targets. This sketch looks like a video game, horror movie…

CHAPTER 43 / 45 Discussion

Senator John Kennedy on Climate Spending

Senator John Kennedy questioned the Deputy Secretary of Energy regarding a proposed $50 trillion plan to make the U.S. carbon neutral by 2050. Kennedy pressed the official for a specific estimate on how much this spending would actually reduce global temperatures, highlighting the official's inability to provide a mathematical justification for the massive taxpayer investment.

john kennedy· climate change· carbon neutral· department of energy· taxpayer money

2:58:54 This sort of things does not happen very often in Serbia where strict gun laws apply. It doesn't happen very often because strict gun laws apply! There you go... Can't talk about stopping with the strict gun laws. Well since that was rather depressing, I'd like to leave on an upbeat note about climate change And the reason this is an upbeat clip is because this is Kennedy, you know that Joe Kennedy. The funny guy...the funny...is he a senator? Or was he congressman? John Kennedy. Not Joe. John Kennedy yes. Yeah I think he's a senator so he is badgering the assistant secretary of energy

2:59:46 You know, who's presented the most recent plan which is I guess over until 2035 a total of 50 trillion dollars to combat climate change. What sounds about... Have you seen this clip? No, I'm sure it's...I know his type. His style of clips though they're always funny All these all the senators and the Congress people when they do this stuff for the cameras It's always performative it's always you know it's to get votes or whatever but this guy he Showboating show boating but in this case it's really appropriate And it's really good and he just is a love the guy percent of global yeah But if you could answer my question if we spend 50 trillion dollars

3:00:31 to become carbon neutral in the United States of America by 2050. You're the Deputy Secretary of Energy. Give me your estimate of how much that is going to reduce world temperatures? So first of all, it's a net cost. It's what benefits we're having from getting our act together and reducing all those climate benefits. Let me ask again maybe I'm being clear if we spent $50 trillion dollars become carbon neutral by 2050 in the United States of America How much is that going to reduce world temperatures? This is a global problem. So we need to reduce our emissions and we need to do everything We can how much if we do our part, is he going to reduce the work or 13% of global you don't know Do ya you don't know do you can do the math? You don't know do you mr Secretary so we're 13 percent if you know why won't you tell me if we went to zero that would be 13 for you Don't know do you just want us to spend 50 trillion dollars on

3:01:31 And you don't have the slightest idea whether it's going to reduce world temperatures. Now I'm all for carbon neutrality, but you're the Deputy Secretary of the Department of Energy and your advocating we spend trillions of dollars to seek carbon neutrality and this isn't your money or my money it's taxpayer money! You can't tell me how much is gonna lower world temperatures? Or you won't tell me? In my heart of hearts, there is no way the world gets its act together on climate change unless the US leads. Tell me how much it's going to reduce... You can't tell me either that or you won't! I love that guy. 35 seconds for one last clip this guy's boss The Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm

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Jennifer Granholm on Electric Military Fleets

Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm expressed support for transitioning the entire U.S. military fleet to electric vehicles (EVs) by 2030. Granholm argued that this move would enhance energy security by reducing reliance on global fossil fuel markets. Critics mock the practicality of using EVs in active combat zones and remote desert locations where charging infrastructure is non-existent.

jennifer granholm· department of energy· electric vehicles· us military· energy security

3:02:19 You know, the one with the saucers on her head that she calls ears? She's the dumbest one in the whole group. Well yes she is because tell me if this sounds like a good idea Do you support the military adopting that EV fleet by 2030 I do and i think we can get there as well and I do think that reducing our reliance on the volatility of globally traded fossil fuels where we know that global events such as the war in Ukraine can jack up prices for people back home It does not contribute to energy security. I think energy security is achieved when we have homegrown clean energy that is abundant, like you see in Iowa We think that we can be a leader globally and how we have become energy independent She wants it with the entire

3:03:06 US military fleet on EVs. Yes, I know! It's hilarious So when we're in Iraq or something you know one of these desert places we'd like to go and blow up from time the time We have to go plug-in? Yeah. I mean really it is and how about the planes do they also be all EVS Well they're gonna try to do that too if they can These people need to be kicked out Kicked out All of them How did they get in? Incompetency Obviously no rigged elections. Hello all that I'm sorry yes, bring the elections alright everybody enjoy Saturday You know King Charles's coronation That should be oh that's right this the big coronations on Saturday you played the clips remember? I know but I didn't realize it was this Saturday Well there you go No agenda always on top of the news and behind the time well you know I'm not gonna Be there yeah wasn't invited

3:04:01 Coming up next on the Noah Jettner stream, we got Rhino the Bearded with his 00 Top 10. Yeah! Music on the stream all legal cool deal End of show mixes, we have classic Abel Kirby. We got new Dee Zlaas, classic Billy Bones and some Dustin Jones coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in your FEMA region number six in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley where I remain I am John C. Dvorak. We return on Sunday with another episode of The Best Podcast In The Universe Your media deconstruction remember us at dvorak dot org slash n a until then Adios, mofos, a-hooey hooey and such!

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Episode 1552 Outro and "No Agenda" Rap

The episode concludes with a custom hip-hop track deconstructing the day's themes, including AI, gender care, and media brainwashing. The hosts sign off from the Texas Hill Country and Northern Silicon Valley, reminding listeners to support the show through the "Value for Value" model and to return for the next broadcast on Sunday.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· media deconstruction· hip hop· outro

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3:05:26 I've been a listener for the past few years. I have no recollection of how i found this show. Stoner, stoner... Hey man! I was like... I don't know why but I found it. It just dropped in my lap At first I thought it was okay Back and forth watching the nuggets A joker was fun Getting back to seeing my nephews I really want a son or daughter I don't care a healthy baby In this world, I guess they'd say a baby Who would go for that? Whitney saying crack was whack Bobby and me have way too much money to consider that Yeah right. In hindsight The family tragedy kids passing were sad to see In this sick society we normalize the lies That we tell ourselves Not even surprised Brainwashing in school is happening earlier Progress to regress when the men are getting earlier Fix your face

3:06:16 Can't lie that I'm looking surlier Gender affirming care, your parents are you not scared? Child castration mutilation Top surgery scars kids been treated like stars Is affirmation generation ruining the nation Born in the wrong body God don't make mistakes Google barfing chat GBT is full of deep fakes 80% moving from girls to boys, media portrays the other way and kids are not what? Kids are not playing with their toys SEL social emotional learning Cradle to the grave real fathers in leadership is what they're yearning for Anti-trans legislation say no more Give them a lifetime of medication therapy More demonizing faith in a higher G.O.D Want you to relinquish your sovereignty to GOV

3:07:04 Then they lie to you like Sod Sodom and Gomorrah are the times we are living in Look around at all the silly promoted el-sini-sin No agenda, no a what? No agenda Don't get offended What's a woman anyway Top of the pyramids is transgender New shit has come to light I've got information My wife has worked for last six years for company that makes prosthetic penises for trans men I mean, we have no listeners of any influence but we've got interesting people out there. We have the... we have the uh... we have the meat! Uh he's got no note. To the Squirrel Males! Let me just take a look. I'm not sure.

3:07:54 Oh, wait. Wait! Stop stop stop! I put too many Ms... Again nothing. No, still nothing. Hit it Back to the bong You know how if you smoke weed how music can sound different? It's a drip. Oh that's where you get the bongs from

3:08:33 I'm a like a life. Kind of a little way so does anyone see you in this state? No, I'm going to go listen to Rihanna. The best podcast in the universe! MoFoDvorak.org slash N A Wow that is really interesting