Episode 1542 · Thursday, 30 March 2023

Digital Dementia

Tech titans demand a moratorium on artificial intelligence while the Restrict Act introduces a new era of federal surveillance under the guise of national security.

By The No Agenda Show | 2h 59m listen | 57 chapters
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The No Agenda Show · No. 1542

About this episode

Elon Musk and Steve Wozniak joined over 1,300 tech leaders in signing an open letter demanding a six-month moratorium on advanced AI development. The group warns that systems more powerful than GPT-4 pose profound risks to society, while critics suggest the pause is a strategic move to allow competitors to catch up to OpenAI. The tech industry is rapidly pivoting from the failed Metaverse toward an AI arms race that has already driven engineering salaries in Austin to $500,000.

Senator Lindsey Graham admitted to co-sponsoring the Restrict Act without reading the full text, while Senator Marco Rubio warned that China could use TikTok algorithms to influence American public opinion during a hypothetical invasion of Taiwan. Meanwhile, the Biden administration's National Cybersecurity Strategy seeks to shift the burden of security onto large organizations, potentially creating a total surveillance system. In the education sector, reading and math scores have hit 30-year lows following pandemic lockdowns, and school districts in Alabama are suing social media companies for fueling a youth mental health crisis.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak apply the "weed whacker test" to ChatGPT, finding the AI's consumer advice to be generic and largely useless for expert recommendations. The program also explores the bizarre creation of a woolly mammoth meatball by an Australian firm and the technical evolution of the Nostr protocol. Dvorak concludes the session by battling a squeaky chair and a backup computer failure while transitioning to open-source software.


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CHAPTER 01 / 57 Discussion

Credit Card Scams, Reverse Mortgages, and Show Introduction

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the program from Texas and Silicon Valley. Dvorak reports receiving a scam call offering 0% interest on credit cards, leading to a discussion about the frequency of telemarketing calls. Curry jokes about eventually calling Dvorak to offer a reverse mortgage.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· credit card scams· reverse mortgages· fema region 6· silicon valley

00:00 Electronic Brain! and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region Number 6. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where i just got the good news that I am eligible for 0% interest on all my credit cards if I just press 1! I'm John C. Dvorak. Crackpot & Buzzkill...In The Morning! And then you took it off the hook tell me that please after you pressed one and you took advantage of that great opportunity

00:45 I had so many calls this morning that I obviously had no problem taking it off the hook. You know, in maybe about four years one day that phone's gonna ring and it's gonna be me and I'm gonna say are you interested in a reverse mortgage? Guarantee you! It's going to be me and you're gonna want to take advantage of that excellent opportunity Wow did I lose you Why we're gone. Oh you're back I was like wow you really didn't like my joke, I guess. Okay...I have you again are you with me? Yeah okay real quiet today i guess not getting any noise what do you mean um no noise where over the line because you think i'm not here oh and you were just being quiet okay well hi

CHAPTER 02 / 57 Discussion

Elon Musk, Steve Wozniak, AI Development Pause Letter

Over 1,300 tech leaders, including Elon Musk and Steve Wozniak, signed an open letter calling for a six-month pause on advanced AI development. The letter cites profound risks to society and humanity. Critics suggest the move is a strategic attempt by Musk to allow his own ventures to catch up to competitors like OpenAI.

elon musk· steve wozniak· artificial intelligence· andrew yang· tesla· apple

01:42 Well, what do you think? Are we gonna stop the AI or are we going to have transgender war. I'd like to start it off with the AI just so we can go kind of in a fun direction first I have a 4 series clip on the AI. Beautiful, let me play a 33 second overview. More than 1300 tech industry leaders researchers and others are now asking for a pause in the development of artificial intelligence to consider the risks Twitter and Tesla CEO Elon Musk, and Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak are among those who signed a letter calling for a six month break in the race to develop more powerful AI. Musk and others say advanced AI which allows computers to perform tasks that normally require human intelligence could pose quote profound risk to society and humanity." Wait a minute I already am feeling that you and i are on the same page with this this is the biggest

02:41 steaming pile of horse crap ever is my feeling. Well there's a who are they kidding aspect to it, oh let's all stop for six months! The first thing I thought when I heard that was Elon Musk wants everyone to stop so he can catch up. That was the first thought I had hey hey Waz says stop the smartest people on the earth John have signed this letter including Andrew Yang He's probably behind it Yeah you're not kidding Well, let's go to the AI freakout series. So this is AI Freak Out intro. This is the intro Stop training artificial intelligence at least temporarily That's what over a thousand very notable individuals want They are AI researchers CEOs and tech leaders like Elon Musk and Steve Wozniak They signed an open letter it states that I could profoundly change the history of life on Earth The letters said we should plan for these changes

03:42 But unfortunately, we're not right now. Instead it says we're in an all out of control race to develop systems that no one can understand and predict or control So I just have to put this into perspective You know my feelings about Elon Musk? Yeah He he may be a great sales guy And he maybe a great you know like I was calling the Kim Kardashian of tech is here great tech leader Is he such an incredible visionary? No, I mean he He bought an electric car company and marketed that very successfully. Got into rocketry when NASA was out of it, so that was very smart. You know there's... It's not like a huge visionary thing unless you're in the loop on where the money is flowing. And Wozniak with all respect for the Apple Computer Company he also loved the segue. You know it's like this these are not the smartest people in technology as far as I'm concerned. And your bumping your mic!

CHAPTER 03 / 57 Discussion

AI Moratorium Proposals, Alexander De Ritter, Phishing Risks

AI researcher Alexander De Ritter argues that a verifiable six-month pause on systems more powerful than GPT-4 is necessary for governments to establish regulations. Krisha Alenzo of Harvard InTech compares AI to a train without guardrails, citing concerns over cybersecurity and disinformation. Skeptics argue that phishing and scams already exist and that AI's impact is being sensationalized.

alexander de ritter· gpt-4· ntd· harvard intech· krisha alenzo· cybersecurity

04:40 Yeah, okay. Well there are people on that list that are smart but who? I don't know what the point of this is a publicity stunt but i don't know what the point of it is. Elon Musk was getting a lot of publicity. Wozniak doesn't have anything for sales that I know of. He's involved in some little groups I don't know what to point out. Anyway, let's go to part 2 So they want everyone to immediately pause training for all systems more powerful than GPT-4 for at least 6 months They want the pause to be both public and verifiable Not just that They even want world governments to potentially step in and implement a moratorium

05:24 We talked to someone who signed the letter, AI researcher Alexander De Ritter also a frequent NTD contributor. De Ritter says that 6 month pause is necessary It doesn't stifle AI research as whole and it gives government time to work closely with regulators. AI is very complex topic. De Ritter says that the pause would only work if every country commits to it Because if some pauses and some don't, the countries that don't will have an unfair advantage in the AI race. So what are the pros and cons for a six-month pause? We get some experts to weigh in. The executive director of Harvard InTech, Krisha Alenzo says AI is like a train on the loose with no guardrails She supports the letter

06:09 AI has tremendous capabilities and it could cause a lot of problems for people whether it's cybersecurity issues, phishing scams or even disinformation. We really need to get ahold of what is going on when it comes to open source AI specifically chat GPT which is a huge problem What? What is she talking about We already have phishing scams. We already have all these other things that she says AI's got something to do What is a I gonna do to make fishing scams any different than they already are? All I keep hearing is how dangerous it's gonna be and all I see is stuff that's wrong. I just for me It's like maybe They've come to the collective realization That this is not ready for prime time its you know

06:56 you know, it doesn't really work all that great. I mean how many more pictures do i need to see with people with 18 fingers before? You know and someone even made one of me here's Adam Curry in the mid-range. Tina looked at this and said this is not you! I see that right away! I have a picture...I should have put this in the last newsletter but I'm gonna put in the next one so being or one of these guys who've got these art creation thing that you can subscribe to. So I started asking for stuff, wouldn't do a lot of stuff so i decided to use you as the model. Hello! Hello, I'm perfect for the model Oh yeah and so uh... I said I want to see Adam Curry kissing a bear now we can have anything like that okay I wanna see- Wait wait wait it wouldn't let you do that? It's no that's verboten You cant have that

CHAPTER 04 / 57 Discussion

AI Image Generation Failures, Adam Curry Bear Anecdote

A host describes attempting to use AI art tools to create an image of Adam Curry riding a bear. The resulting images failed to resemble Curry, instead producing a character looking like Fabio. The discussion highlights the current limitations and "hallucinations" of generative AI models in accurately depicting specific individuals.

ai art· midjourney· bing· fabio· image generation· hallucinations

06:09 AI has tremendous capabilities and it could cause a lot of problems for people whether it's cybersecurity issues, phishing scams or even disinformation. We really need to get ahold of what is going on when it comes to open source AI specifically chat GPT which is a huge problem What? What is she talking about We already have phishing scams. We already have all these other things that she says AI's got something to do What is a I gonna do to make fishing scams any different than they already are? All I keep hearing is how dangerous it's gonna be and all I see is stuff that's wrong. I just for me It's like maybe They've come to the collective realization That this is not ready for prime time its you know

06:56 you know, it doesn't really work all that great. I mean how many more pictures do i need to see with people with 18 fingers before? You know and someone even made one of me here's Adam Curry in the mid-range. Tina looked at this and said this is not you! I see that right away! I have a picture...I should have put this in the last newsletter but I'm gonna put in the next one so being or one of these guys who've got these art creation thing that you can subscribe to. So I started asking for stuff, wouldn't do a lot of stuff so i decided to use you as the model. Hello! Hello, I'm perfect for the model Oh yeah and so uh... I said I want to see Adam Curry kissing a bear now we can have anything like that okay I wanna see- Wait wait wait it wouldn't let you do that? It's no that's verboten You cant have that

07:48 Yeah. Because it would have been some big biker dude, you know a big hairy biker dude or you meant a real bear? Well I just said bear i didn't specify what kind so then I said I want to see Adam Curry riding a bear So it gave me an image of some guy that looked more like, she looked a lot like Fabio. Nothing like you! It didn't look like you at all and I know there's enough pictures on the web that they could have cobbled together a picture of you no this was not a picture of you John hold up it was a picture some ridiculous looking character who is just too good-looking riding this stylized bear

08:27 And I was gonna run it into the...I didn't do it because I had other things to talk about in the newsletter, but. ...and if you saw it you'd go yeah good! I think they nailed it You would because of just like some ridiculous picture Yeah again But it's a lie It's not you So what I think is happening here And I'm gonna focus a little bit here and I want you to continue with these clips. I just want to say We know that Disney just fired 7,000 people they fired the entire metaverse division Why because metaverse was yesterday's news? You don't hear a single thing about metaverse four billion dollars thrown away by Zuckerberg and his his His you know this dream he had which is never going to come through fruition It was a bad idea He couldn't it was just a

CHAPTER 05 / 57 Discussion

Tech Industry AI War, Metaverse Failure, Engineering Salaries

The tech industry is shifting focus from the failed Metaverse to an "AI war" following the success of ChatGPT. Disney recently shuttered its entire metaverse division after significant losses by Meta. In Austin, Texas, the demand for AI engineers has driven starting salaries to between $300,000 and $500,000 as companies scramble to compete.

mark zuckerberg· disney· google bard· austin· ai engineers· microsoft azure

09:20 pipe dream of his. So everyone now, especially with chat GPT, everyone's tripping over themselves Google barf sucks everything it all sucks it's not good yeah I know you have to be a prompt engineer okay Fine. I think they all realize that they're gonna go broke, there's no advertising model on this you have to actually pay for it it costs a lot of money for this currently They're all going to go broke in this and they've created an AI war amongst the tech companies And they all said oh You know what we should stop this insanity regroup so that we can still have a business model That's what I think! They know It's no good Okay? I think that's valid

10:04 That's why they want to maybe we stop for six months. It's like no one stopping for six months, so it doesn't make any difference what they want. So let's go to clip three On the other side of the argument a 6-month pause could stall progress We've talked to expert Adam Masood He is the chief AI architect at USC. He has a PhD in machine learning and he is Microsoft's MVP in AI AI landscape is highly competitive and research and organizations around the world are creating more and more advanced systems. And there is a inevitability of progress, technological advancements are inevitable they're attempting to halt progress will only delay the issues at hand but you want

10:48 empower the AI research organizations who are already considered deeply concerned about ethical implications and the potential risk of this advanced systems. In Austin, which according to sources is supposed to be the center of all things AI they're now trying to hire AI engineers starting salary 300-500 thousand dollars This is out of control. And I know a lot of people, particularly our audience are going you don't know what you're talking about Curry this is the future! You're not gonna... Every single AI thing that I've seen... My brain which I think I only use 12% of? I got a lot of space left over and already my brain is seeing the pig oh the coat Pope please

CHAPTER 07 / 57 Discussion

ChatGPT vs Google Bard, TikTok Ban Advice Test

A comparison test between ChatGPT-4 and Google Bard asked both bots how TikTok influencers should handle a potential U.S. government ban. ChatGPT provided more detailed advice, such as backing up content and building a personal brand, while Bard suggested switching platforms and using social media ads. The hosts dismiss the AI-generated advice as generic "bromides."

chatgpt· google bard· tiktok· instagram reels· content creators

14:00 Let's go to AI Freakout. This is the idiocy showdown clip We tested chat GPT versus Google Bard Now with a TikTok ban possibility we had the two bots give advice for Tiktok influencers and TD Sharm Marshall has more In a small competition between the top two chatbots today, we asked ChatGPT4 and Google's Bard the same question How should a TikTok influencer deal with it if the US government decides to move forward with a ban on TikTok? Tensions keep rising between America and the Chinese Communist Party. The possibility of a TikTok ban to protect U.S. citizens' data seems to draw closer each day I asked some people on the street what they would do if TikTok was banned.

14:56 But I'd probably just live my life, go you know have...I'll be sad because i do really love it like I'm not gonna lie. It's kind of like entertaining With Instagram they have this thing called Instagram Reels which is essentially like TikTok but the only difference is usually when I use reels its not on purpose Like I just click on one thing and then im down in this loophole so its like it traps you into that To start out, ChatGPT4's answer was more extensive and detailed. Bard's answer was pretty basic, essentially said to switch platforms, start a website or blog, partner with creators, and collaborate with brands. Bard gets points for also suggesting using social media ads which ChatGPT4 didn't recommend

15:41 But Chad GPT4 gave a few more answers in addition to Bard's suggestions. First, back up your content, download and save your videos for later, adapt your content, These things decided to try to copy, they had the real people say what they thought. And then they asked a question of two of these systems and one system says back up your content start a blog I mean, the only thing left out of this is learn to code. It's just a bunch of bullcrap bromides that show me nothing! Exactly what you're saying... It's kind of weird that we're both on the same page with this one? Why? Well it's not the format of the show

CHAPTER 08 / 57 Discussion

Electronic Brain History, Human Evolution vs AI

The current AI hype cycle is compared to the "electronic brain" craze of the 1950s and the Japanese "fifth generation" computer project of the 1980s. The hosts argue that human perception and the brain evolve to handle new stimuli, such as cinematic jump cuts, faster than AI can truly innovate. They maintain that AI remains a probability calculation rather than a thinking entity.

electronic brain· fourth generation· japan· expert systems· jump cuts

16:38 Was the format of when we see something this dumb. We're supposed to argue and besides that I have been harping on this AI from cycle for the last 15 years, I mean the cycle began in the 50's out does a reiterate for people out there The cycle began in the fifties amid fifties who ended there were all these articles about the the electronic brain And they would show all these computers and how they're gonna take over everything, and they're gonna eliminate jobs in the electronic brain! They went on and on. It was kind of like it wasn't AI quite but then the AI thing came around around... Oh what? 20 years? 25 years later? I remember in the 70's when you know when the integrated circuit chips-chips is going to do this-it was gonna say-I don't remember the electronic brain part. Was going through same thing.

17:26 It's all over. 25 years after the electronic brain came to the AI revolution and this was the artificial intelligence that fourth generation Japanese thing they're gonna take over and it was on and on and on with a expert systems That's when those first showed up miniaturization And all these things mission, it's always that so all these things are gonna and then it just flopped And then another 25 years go by and we got this again, and now we have this stuff. It's the same thing as it shows how weak it is for you can finish the clip when you

18:02 It's just lame. Now, Chad GPT-4 answer was more extensive and detailed. Bard's answer was pretty basic essentially said to switch platforms start a website or blog partner with creators and collaborate with brands. Bard gets points for also suggesting the use social media ads which Chad GPT-4 didn't recommend But ChatGPT4 gave a few more answers in addition to Bard's suggestions. First, back up your content, download and save your videos for later, adapt your content to different platforms and focus on building a brand! Strengthen your personal brand by creating a unique style theme or niche that sets you apart from other content creators

18:45 This simple test did seem to put Chad GPT-4 in the number one spot. Wow, this is great! This is almost like back in the day... In the early days of the web we'd be advising big companies and they say yes we want a viral video no problem we're gonna put that on the list will create a viral video for you it was like use social media ads okay what kind of test is this even? I'm amazed how many people don't understand that the human brain will evolve much faster than this. Everything chat GPT 4, 5 6 7 8 9 10 does will go faster you know i'm sure yeah okay if i'm looking well there's somebody somebody might stop you there but i want to point out a uh an interesting phenomenon about the human brain about how movies

CHAPTER 09 / 57 Discussion

Dvorak Weed Whacker Test, AI Preference Limitations

John C. Dvorak applies his long-standing "weed whacker test" to ChatGPT to see if it can recommend the best tool. The AI provides a disclaimer that it lacks personal experience and offers generic factors like lawn size and power source. Dvorak concludes that the AI is useless for specific, expert consumer recommendations.

weed whacker· chatgpt· consumer advice· product reviews· ai limitations

19:39 have adjusted, or people have adjusted to the jump cuts. Which never existed 50 years ago. They didn't exist. People could not deal with something like that and then they... It wasn't even an evolution they just started to show up in the next thing you know we all okay I get it and then you can follow it these things can't even they can barely answer the question about TikTok which was what was presented to him here Without saying stupid stuff like backup back up your hard disk, you know. Okay. Well gee thanks for the good advice What is the one thing that is the Dvorak test for online systems? What is the one thing as long as I've known you For 15 years The one thing you always just wanted to get out of the internet the one piece of advice

20:28 Actually, you know me since 93. That's true 20 years 30 years Holy crap and I was working for the media for two years before he started this podcast that's right Yeah, I'm sorry yeah 34 back to CNET days you're right all right What what is what is the number one question? You know the question I'm sorry, I was so upset by your 15-year thing that it just... What is the best weed whacker? That's all you really want to know. Oh yes! The best one okay yeah i've been doing this for at least 20 years minimum. I have been asking what's the best weed whacker and it's impossible to get the answer here's the answer possible here's the answer from chat gpt

21:10 Of course, disclaimer as an AI language model I don't have personal preferences or experiences with using weed whackers. Right there! Who cares? Boom! Done! However there are many popular and highly rated weed whackers available on the market and the best one for you will depend on your specific needs and preferences Okay so we may need to clear this a little bit further Some factors to consider when choosing a weed whacker include the size and type of your lawn or yard, the type of weeds you need to tackle. The power source you prefer electric battery or gas and the features you want such as adjustable height or pivoting heads but it's not answering my question. Of course it is not answering your question! I was surprised... There IS a weed whacker despite all these details that this thing brought up that is the best

CHAPTER 10 / 57 Discussion

Douglas Murray, AI Pause, Garry Kasparov Chess Analogy

Author Douglas Murray discusses the "extraordinary moment" of the AI pause letter on Fox News. He references Garry Kasparov’s 1997 loss to Deep Blue, suggesting that computers have moved from calculating to thinking. Murray compares the AI revolution to the invention of the printing press, while the hosts disagree with his assessment of computer "thinking."

douglas murray· fox news· garry kasparov· chess· deep blue· printing press

22:00 It's like there is a best doctor. Yeah, yeah well here is um this was very disappointing because I usually hold this guy in pretty high regard but I did not know he was a Fox News contributor Douglas Murray who is one of the Harold is one of the intellectual giants of our time Okay, it's funny to me because I don't know who you're talking about. Oh yeah you do he's the British guy He loves America and he's written several books about how we're losing our freedom You don't know Douglas Murray? No. I mean if I saw him visually let me look him up as if I can recognize him Yeah, I might know him by face. He wrote...let see what was his famous book Neoconservatism why We Need It

22:53 The madness of crowds, I think was the big one. Oh! The strange death of Europe we've talked about him in that context a strange death of Europe immigration identity Islam Okay, well you don't remember but we have talked about it. We've played clips of his before I'm looking at him now So he's a Fox News contributor and he... And he is going to weigh in on this extraordinary moment in our history Extraordinary moment when we'd have to pause AI Some of the smartest people in the world are calling for this It's an extraordinary letter I have to say Oh yeah, I like him already

23:30 I'm going to force you advancements in the area suggests that they're deeply worried about this. I mean, this has been coming on us for 25 years now so it shouldn't be that much of a surprise that the ability of effectively the computers to go faster than we can go on the treadmill... The treadmill technology is running faster what kind of analogy is that? The treadmill of technology

24:17 For the computers to go faster than we can go on the treadmill. I know what, it's a problem he's come up with a metaphor kind of which is indicating that You're going nowhere. You're running fast, but you're not going anywhere! The computer's running fast and both of ya... Nowhere! Oh I like that actually yes. Of effectively the computers to go faster than we can go on the treadmill. That the treadmill of technology is running faster that we humans could run We've known this for a long time but the fact there has now been this

24:55 this stressing that we can be in trouble. They don't know what he's capable of, I mean to call for a six month sort of ban on this is quite extraordinary We've known for about quarter century now that this is coming It actually comes from the 90s when Kasparov, the great chess champion was beaten by... Now lives here in New York City Exactly Was beaten by The Computer And he said then, in his notes he said the worry I have is that the computer isn't calculating it's thinking. We are 25 years on from that now and computers are thinking. So let me just stop him there Hey hey what is this?

25:40 This is bullcrap. The computer's not thinking! Correct, the computer is merely making a probability calculation which you know the closer it is to zero that'll be 0.6, .4 ,0.3 which is how the original and how chess computers still work today and in fact this same way that so-called AI is used in determining what tweets to get rid of You know, it's based upon the large language model and it's always consistently wrong. It's consistently wrong! AI is not in the field...in applications used to protect the children, it's consistently wrong

CHAPTER 11 / 57 Discussion

AI Probability Calculations, Andrew Yang, False Idols

The hosts argue that AI is merely performing probability calculations based on large language models, similar to how chess computers operate. They criticize the elevation of figures like Andrew Yang and Steve Wozniak as "intellectual giants" in the AI debate. The segment characterizes the current AI movement as a "false idol" replacing previous scientific trends.

probability calculation· andrew yang· steve wozniak· large language models· chess computers

24:55 this stressing that we can be in trouble. They don't know what he's capable of, I mean to call for a six month sort of ban on this is quite extraordinary We've known for about quarter century now that this is coming It actually comes from the 90s when Kasparov, the great chess champion was beaten by... Now lives here in New York City Exactly Was beaten by The Computer And he said then, in his notes he said the worry I have is that the computer isn't calculating it's thinking. We are 25 years on from that now and computers are thinking. So let me just stop him there Hey hey what is this?

25:40 This is bullcrap. The computer's not thinking! Correct, the computer is merely making a probability calculation which you know the closer it is to zero that'll be 0.6, .4 ,0.3 which is how the original and how chess computers still work today and in fact this same way that so-called AI is used in determining what tweets to get rid of You know, it's based upon the large language model and it's always consistently wrong. It's consistently wrong! AI is not in the field...in applications used to protect the children, it's consistently wrong

26:22 And so it is, as far as I understand it's still the exact same basic idea of chess computers. That is computation. Chess players compute the probability they you know that's what they're doing They're computing as far ahead as they can and that's you know You've trained your brain to do that And yes, a computer is probably going to be better at mathematics. That's not the same as thinking, Douglas Murray. He said then he said that he said in his notes, he said that why I have is that the computer isn't calculating its thinking we are 25 years on from now and the computers of things can you imagine? The internet has revolutionized our lives in so many ways it's like the printing press in the Middle Ages

27:09 We don't know what the consequences of this are going to be and we are currently living through an era where it's printing press after printing Press is being discovered underneath us. And Doug, it was just so important for everyone to know these are the smartest people amongst us who are demanding a global pause Not a arbitrary senator from a state This is this is for real look at some of these people from Steve Wozniak co-founder of Apple to Elon Musk Andrew Yang here in New York. Thank you so much Yes, it's just extraordinary. Some of the smartest people amongst us Steve Wozniak and Andrew Yang some of the smartest so that's just never mentioned I haven't heard anything Andrew Yang's mention he just mentioned keep saying was there can muster over it He just mentioned that you talked over well Andrew Yang yeah, this is a politician one of the smartest and he even Look this is the new

CHAPTER 12 / 57 Discussion

Segway Failure History, Dean Kamen, Paul Saffo

The hosts recall the hype surrounding the Segway's launch, which was predicted to redesign cities. John C. Dvorak discusses his early access to Segway patents via Paul Saffo and his subsequent skeptical columns in Forbes. They mention the tragic death of the company's owner, Jim Heselden, who drove a Segway off a cliff.

segway· dean kamen· paul saffo· forbes· steve wozniak· jim heselden

28:03 Idol, the new false idol. This is the new science we've had science. Science getting old follow the science now before the AI if this is elevating by the actual promoters of crap you know I can't well Wozniak he promoted the Segway that it was gonna change cities will change We will never live in a city the same way again Remember that tell me remember that Yeah, no I remember. And I wrote a long column about it in Forbes magazine because i had the access to the patents before they was actually released and we me and Paul Saffo gave me all this information Really? You had you had access to the patents before it was in effect Well no as soon as the patent came out Paul Saffo identified for some reason sought out me with pictures of the various devices saying look at this bull crap

29:00 What do you make of it? And then I obviously followed up with a column and then the follow-up column after the thing came out with all these people saying stuff like what you just said, which is oh, cities. Cities will have to be redesigned to accommodate. Yes, exactly! To accommodate how we will live. And I think the oldest thing is a stand-up scooter that balances itself...I didn't see it as anything more than that and it was dangerous. Remember the CEO of the company drove off the cliff and died? Yes, in fact I forgot about that sad ending to the segue. The CEO of the company driving off a cliff on the thing. In fact there's a Mutual Liberty commercial where

29:49 where a guy drives the Segway into kind of a barrier and goes into the drink. Yeah, and it was not the inventor as many people think. No no, I can't remember his name but the inventor was interesting. So let's just say currently there is no evidence AI is thinking But this elevates it with all this outrage and panic, panic, panic. This elevates it to that kind of level and now of course it has our attention

CHAPTER 13 / 57 Discussion

Digital Dementia, Stanford Alpaca AI, Newsroom Automation

The term "Digital Dementia" is introduced to describe the impact of AI on the populace. Stanford University recently released and then removed the "Alpaca" AI model due to "hallucinations" and incorrect outputs. The hosts predict that AI will eventually replace news readers and headline writers, noting that sites like CNBC already use automation for market updates.

digital dementia· stanford university· alpaca ai· github· news readers· cnbc

30:24 And the whole idea is to replace the old and tired science, all the science. You know? To have AI tell us about I don't know climate change fake meat all these important things it's digital dementia Digital dementia is what be is being introduced to the populace now. Oh I like it! Digital Dementia Yes I wrote that down myself Did you write it in? So Stanford Sanford had this big, you know two weeks ago. Oh the alpaca AI model! It only cost $600 not five million Alpaca alpaca and we were releasing the code open code open source go to github get the alpaca AI model And then they had to take it down because yeah, it was kind of dangerous. It does something that they call in a island hallucinating Yeah, of course Hallucinations means it gets stuff wrong very wrong

31:17 And yeah, okay you can probably say write a script for me using Rust which is really handy and it can... Yeah but that's not thinking. That's going to stack overflow and scraping the site and putting stuff together since it uses language which is deterministic of what word would come after this word your code's gonna be pretty good for that But I was watching something on television and with this in mind, and I realized that today's news broadcasts with the news readers can all be replaced. And that's the real threat so the news media has to sense at least in some way deep down inside that they're are the ones being threatened because they're no good anyway! They're not doing any news reporting

32:11 reporting. Well they've already been replaced to a certain audio certainly and I mean we hear lots of tech you know, I would say AI read news reports and videos that are created with fake voices okay yeah i think and I think that's because that first woman that was in that series Eclipse goes on this 300 million jobs are going to be lost! And it was gone on and on and on... What jobs are gonna be lost by this? Well I think rewriting press releases so you can read them on, you know, K-R-O-N TV. Yeah On the nightly news... Yeah that's a job! Is one job that could go You shove the press release into the machine it reads it, rejiggers it and gives you some copy some decent news copy to read Well just go and look at CNBC, the website how many times?

33:04 they have some rudimentary form, maybe even advanced. I don't know if AI writing their headlines and selecting so the Dow was up you get a picture traders happy and you see these guys yeah like bye beautiful and then when the Dow was down they got frowning faces that's all AI driven So yeah i'm sure that's going to work but there is nothing to be worried about humans are always going to outsmart this technology And go outside and go without your phone and sniff some air Instead of sniffing farts from the mainstream media, this is just so stupid. But it is an idolization of technology and that is definitely a mission of the singularity folk which I'm sure Musk is a part of. You know, he's like, oh you know, I am integrated. No no no...I can't say that's true

CHAPTER 14 / 57 Discussion

Restrict Act, Lindsey Graham, Marco Rubio, TikTok Ban

Senator Lindsey Graham appeared on Fox News to discuss the Restrict Act (Senate Bill 686) but admitted he had not fully read the bill he was co-sponsoring. Senator Marco Rubio released a video outlining a hypothetical scenario where China uses TikTok to influence American opinion on a Taiwan invasion. The hosts argue the bill is a "red herring" for broader surveillance.

lindsey graham· restrict act· senate bill 686· marco rubio· tiktok· china

33:58 What? The Singularity folk, I'm not sure Musk is part of that club. He has Neuralink! Have you seen Neuralink?! You know some of the stuff he does is just to fool with people that want to take it seriously. He's a joker Yes, he is a joker and if I just might add when it comes to politicians and this stuff I mean, most people are stupid. I'm stupid you're pretty stupid we're all stupid but the people who we elect and the people who appoint people they elected people who appoint people they appoint very stupid people and We heard this with the with Fifi Lagarde she's dumb She didn't not brilliant any smarter than anybody else And and I just like to transition to tick-tock for a second so we can discuss this before we get to the horrible shooting in Nashville which we will discuss

34:54 You know, so we have the everyone's... Oh! Patriot Act 2.0! Yeah tick tock we gotta get rid of tick-tock let's listen to the stupidest person we have currently in the Senate Lindsey Graham So Lindsey Graham is so stupid when it comes to this bill. We're talking about Senate Bill 686, which is a senate bill doesn't mean that this passes its law there has to be a house version there has to be consolidation they have to agree on it and then of course whatever it is you know braindead Biden will sign it no problem

35:32 But it's not that simple. There are a couple of other things out there, and this is almost like a red herring as far as I'm concerned but Graham thinks he is going on the safe Fox News to discuss this restrict act and firstly goes on with Jesse Watters another person who I think is pretty stupid sorry nice guy nice guy but runs on outrage and yelling and I am Waters this my world okay And he gets trapped right away. Why? Because, like most politicians he only listened to his advisor and the advisor was probably a lobbyist maybe it's just some intern He didn't read any of this It is also not as simple bill to read There are lot of legalese in there and referrals to other things

36:19 But he was all in on it, but he didn't know it. Let's try to get some answers out of the Senator Lindsey Graham who supports this and is here now You gotta be kidding me senator Did you read this? Yeah I don't think I support the restrict act You don't support this because you were named as one of the supporters. Oops! Because this is garbage Is this the one with John, there's two bills out there One allows a review of businesses that are connected to China and gives the Secretary the ability to protect their data Uh...is that the restrict act? We got S-686 Yes idiot Right here March 7th And we got

37:04 bunch of Republicans supporting it because this thing is crazy town you don't want the government looking into your private phone no I don't if they have a hunch you're colluding with the Russians we remember how that turned out yeah well the Constitution trumps a statute so let me come back and give you a better explanation here's the problem as I see it China is the parent company of TikTok, and my nieces like TikTok. I don't mind them using TikTok, I just don't want the Chinese government to seize all their data and manipulate the information America sees for political purposes. China is helping drug cartels in Mexico. China is not a friend... The Chinese espionage is at all time high against American business interests so I wanna push back against China but within a constitutional framework you're right about that

37:55 You made these allegations and I'll come answer better next time. Well, I mean because on congress.gov you're listed as one of the co-sponsors of this thing maybe it's like Fetterman when your chief of staff does all your work for you. And he even said oh yeah could be could be yeah my staff did that Honestly, AI would outwit that guy. But so they're stupid and none of them actually have read the bill They don't really know what's in it I think it's a red herring because what's really going on here is all the executive orders and The Biden administration national cyber security strategy which no one is talking about this Is this is the real crap that's going on?

CHAPTER 15 / 57 Discussion

National Cybersecurity Strategy, CISA, Surveillance Expansion

The Biden administration's National Cybersecurity Strategy is identified as the real legislative threat compared to the TikTok ban. The policy seeks to shift the burden of cybersecurity to large organizations and aligns with a total U.S. surveillance system. The hosts claim this strategy, implemented via executive orders, tightens control over the internet under the guise of security.

national cybersecurity strategy· cisa· executive orders· surveillance· joe biden

38:39 And I think this is just a distraction. This will never pass, it's so obvious although it's only limited to certain countries they can add to it and if this passes then we're all stupid and we all should go shoot ourselves because this is dumb! This is the dumbest thing we could ever do everyone's on to it but we're not looking what's really being put out there with executive orders etc from national cybersecurity strategy. We must rebalance the responsibility to defend cyberspace by shifting the burden to cyber security away from individual small businesses and local governments, and onto the organizations that are most capable and best positioned to reduce risks for all of us

39:19 The National Cyber Security Strategy aligns with, supports and works in concert with a total US surveillance system where definitions of information are then applied to cyber security and communication vectors. This policy is a surveillance system and he's got executive orders up the wazoo that are already being put into place. This is CISA, this is all this stuff... We're all arguing about the wrong thing here and the net is just being tightened over and over again So, and none of these senators know what they're talking about. They don't understand what's going on and it still protection for the existing US technology companies. Oh yeah let's make sure we have something to ban everybody to ban everybody else because you know I would like with TikTok did and Rubio gave it away he did his own special little a little press conference 17 minutes two days ago

CHAPTER 16 / 57 Discussion

Taiwan Invasion Hypotheticals, CHIPS Act, Global Markets

Marco Rubio's warnings about a 2027-2028 Chinese invasion of Taiwan are scrutinized. The hosts question whether the American public truly cares about the conflict and argue that China would still want to sell products to the U.S. market regardless of Taiwan's status. They also label the CHIPS Act a "flop" that is not cost-effective for domestic manufacturing.

taiwan· china· chips act· xiamen· republic of china· semiconductors

40:17 Put it out on YouTube, couldn't put it on TikTok. You know because you know they might edit and make it look weird And I pulled two clips and it shows you exactly how dumb and how misguided this guy is and how compromised he is This is his understanding of the American people How stupid we are So let me walk you through a very realistic hypothetical Let's suppose... A very realistic hypothetical. Woo! So let me walk you through a very realistic hypothetical, let's suppose for a moment that China decides they're going to invade Taiwan in 2027 or 2028 and the key to a successful invasion or taking of Taiwan is to prevent the United States of America from getting involved. Now first of all he's just presuming that anyone gives a crap I mean do we really care?

41:08 Do the Americans really care what China does with Taiwan? Or are we being told to care. I'm asking you John, do you care? We're being told to care. Okay! I mean i kind of care because I haven't been to both places and I like Taiwan the way it is but... Do I really care if Taiwan is overrun by the Chinese or they grab it back? How about the Taiwanese grabbing back China. In fact, when you when I was in Xiamen, China on the coast which is across from the same straits across from Taiwan on the mainland and there's a bunch of these bunkers

41:52 that are all over the place, they're still there. They're from like World War II and the guy taking me around the area was I said what the hell are these? He says oh this was the Chinese Communist Party after they rousted the Republic of China people and got them to move to Taiwan had to set up shop here because they thought they were gonna reinvade So that could still happen. Right, but the story is well you know there's so many chips it's all coming out to computers do you does anyone really think that China won't want to sell us computers?

42:29 Even if they overrun Taiwan, what's their market? We are their market. We're their market! And we put the CHIPS Act in place so that we can probably try and make our own not very cost effective. This has been shown already to be a flop. It's not working out. So let's go back to the genius Marco Rubio who I am convinced is completely compromised in this by lobbyists. The key to keeping United States from getting involved is to convince the American people that we shouldn't get involved because they know we're a democracy. They know the public opinion matters in America Oh, just like Ukraine? Like it really matters now? We really care now? Wait do we stop caring

CHAPTER 17 / 57 Discussion

TikTok Algorithms, Deborah Birx, Ukraine Funding Criticism

The hosts compare potential TikTok algorithmic manipulation to the COVID-19 messaging from officials like Deborah Birx. They argue that Americans are already seeing messages questioning U.S. involvement in Ukraine due to domestic issues like homelessness and education. They suggest the government wants to ban TikTok because it cannot control the platform's messaging as easily as American tech companies.

tiktok· deborah birx· ukraine· homelessness· propaganda· algorithms

43:11 And so knowing all this, the Chinese government goes to ByteDance who by law has to do whatever they're told. The Chinese government says to ByteDance we want you to align your algorithm to shape American public opinion on Taiwan They won't do this overnight it'll be they'll lead don't spend a couple years laying this out We don't need a ByteDance TikTok algorithm All we need is Deborah Birx to show videos and everyone will believe it Well look at these people that China they're falling down from COVID They're dying You didn't need any algos for that, you just needed the officials to talk about it. We want you to align your algorithm To make sure that people in America are seeing messages That convince them that America should not get involved And now we got...we want you to use the data To target specific American audiences With specific messages So for example some Americans might see a bunch of videos That alleged to show people in Taiwan Probably fake but nonetheless people on Taiwan

44:09 supporting a Chinese takeover. I like China, take me over! Oh that seems pretty realistic. Here's the funny thing about this we always have to remember people watch the videos that they find entertaining yes if i'm saying a bunch of stuff about Taiwan... We're gone! We're gone! I'm just clicking off and going someplace else? I'm not gonna watch that it's not entertaining Bring back this you have a cruise. He ever looked at tick-tock I've I've I've looked at tick tock I also would look at the real sting that thing that Instagram does which it can be quite good and I'll sit there watch it for a while because It's like watching television, but short gags and bits of dogs

44:52 It's really crazy stuff and a guy shooting a basketball from across the street and all that kind of thing. Yeah, it's not just not a bunch of political stuff to trying to convince me one thing or another if I see that I know finally I can stop Maybe family members remember they have all this data on us family members of military members. Oh see videos about how thousands of Americans will die if the United States gets involved Others might see videos of Americans... Hold on a second. You know, if I see videos about how maybe thousands of Americans will die which could be very true service members if we start meddling around If you do it in an entertaining way and a cat is telling me Yeah yeah I might say hey let's not do that but come on Rubio Would see videos about how thousands of Americans will die if the United States gets involved others might see videos of Americans

45:51 who they think are Americans, arguing why do we care about Taiwan? We should be focused on our problems here at home. Yeah! This is what we're saying about Ukraine right now and you're suppressing those messages yes You are suppressing those messages. You are ignoring the American people when it comes to that. We're all saying that hey you know we got problems here we got homelessness we've got shitty education we want concentrated home all the money sent to Ukraine could have every homeless person could have tiny home anything but what you're doing now. But here it comes, here's the part where he admits that TikTok is just kicking American big techs ass and he's going to admit this and use this as a reason to ban TikTok only in a typical Rubio politician way

CHAPTER 18 / 57 Discussion

TikTok Marketing Success, Small Business Impact, Arkansas Lawsuit

Senator Marco Rubio admitted that TikTok is a superior marketing tool for small businesses, which the hosts find ironic given the push to ban it. A survey from Retail Dive shows 75% of marketers plan to increase TikTok spending despite ban threats. Meanwhile, Arkansas is suing Meta and TikTok, alleging the platforms are intentionally designed to be manipulative and addictive to children.

tiktok marketing· retail dive· meta· arkansas· sarah huckabee sanders· addictive algorithms

46:41 When we notice that they're doing something about it, that's what people will say well if that happens then you deal with it Well once we notice that they're actually doing and we try to do something about it. You know what comes next here's What comes next which is already happening now? Oh, you're gonna have a bunch of small businesses in America who depend on marketing and tick-tock And I don't let me tell you something. I don't I don't diminish that it's true I know people that have built up their businesses They use tik tok for marketing and it works It's better than the other apps for that. Whoa! It's better than the other apps for marketing for small businesses? Oh no! If I was one of those sales guys at TikTok, I'd be clipping that. Let me tell you something...I don't diminish that it's true. I know people who have built up their businesses and they use TikTok for marketing and it works. It's better than any other apps for that

47:27 He doesn't say it's some no he says it's better than the other apps for that You know the guys that are paying me but just imagine When we go to them and say guys, we got a shut tick-tock down now because now what's real? Now they're using it against us. Those people are gonna come out so you're gonna destroy my business In fact China will probably threaten those people China will probably make it very clear if the u.s Gets involved We're gonna knock all the Americans off of tik tok down goes your business those people will suddenly be asking Isn't this great Well, first of all let's stop a bit right there. Does this guy have any clue about how businesses work? Has he ever run a business? If people advertise and get... Okay you're advertising you're finding that your getting effective advertising is working effectively in a specific magazine and the magazine folds that doesn't mean the business folds!

48:24 It means that you either find something else, you may or may not even take a hit. If your advertising effectively your business will continue even if the advertising stops dead! You have a business it's not like unless it was all direct marketing from that one source Which is not the case very few direct marketing operations I've seen on tick-tock if any but what I'm hearing him say is exactly The talking points he's been given. Hey, man We're in trouble because people are becoming successful with tik-tok marketing and

49:04 They're marketing to, as we discussed on a previous episode of marketing to people who are in the group and there's no strife. And they like advertising there and they can target their message because it's only one type of people doesn't matter what any type you can get that type of person is very successful. And yeah even in fact I have 70 this case from retail dive.com And they published this article and they say here, 75% of marketers expect to spend more on TikTok even as ban looms.

49:41 75% and drawing attention to all this like Rubio's doing in the band. In fact, the band looming has brought attention to advertisers Yeah Hey, it is good stuff over here. This is good It works so they're doing is making tik-tok more successful What? China will probably threaten those people China will probably make it very clear. They won't? They're gonna threaten those, hey we're gonna kick you off a tick tock! No they're not gonna do that If China wants this cause some problems I got one of the one of our producers sent me notes talking about classic cars he says you can't buy parts for any classic cars right nowadays that aren't made in China American classic cars you want apart a screw

CHAPTER 19 / 57 Discussion

Chinese Manufacturing Dependency, Classic Car Parts, Mopar

A discussion on the difficulty of sourcing classic car parts that are not manufactured in China highlights the deep U.S. dependency on Chinese trade. The hosts argue that stopping all imports from China is a naive suggestion given that even basic components like screws for American cars are now primarily produced there.

manufacturing· china· classic cars· mopar· imports· supply chain

50:33 For your car that's a little different because it goes some place here or there. No, it comes from China if you can get it at all and even the Chinese parts aren't as good as they should be but they're just all China You have no...you know There is no option There are no real printed versions They don't have models that you can put in into the 3D printers or anything like that What happened to Mopar? They just cut off thick and just I heard some guy the other day say, you know what we should do? In fact there's one of the clips we had like a week ago. Guy says well you know what, just stop all imports from China! That'll do it! Wow how dumb are... yeah be talking about naive

51:18 Let's finish this. We're up to our necks with China, we can't...we have to find some other way of dealing with this. We can't do it and maybe they could just for some reason I mean I'm sure the national security system is also interested in gaining control over China. So Rubio is saying two things one we don't control the messaging like we control with all the American companies for whatever reason, because you know we put FBI in there. We have the IRS threatening people you know that's so we don't have that angle although I think they probably could because after all it is not a Chinese company that runs us

51:58 And we got a problem. They, look 75% everyone's moving to TikTok We have email after email. TikTok works! We like it this is good and so what he's saying here is they need to have some boogeyman China to stop this, to blame it on because people are going to lose their minds. And I also don't think it's ever going to happen. I'm gonna put that in the book there's gonna be no TikTok ban It is not going to happen. Now let's finish this out. Those people are gonna come out and say you're gonna destroy my business In fact China will probably threaten those people

52:38 China will probably make it very clear, the US gets involved. We're gonna knock all the Americans off of TikToks down goes your business those people will suddenly be asking their elected officials here not to get involved in Taiwan and you know where we find ourselves then? Paralyzed! A country that's paralyzed they cannot act in its own national security interests because we've allowed an adversary to basically use an app that they control and the data that they control to shape public opinion in America over an extended period of time and we can't do anything about it. So this is also a lie? So his whole thing is if, if we ban TikTok... This what he's essentially saying by people should check out my essay on... Yes I put link in the show notes to your free and open internet Hypocrites by John C Dvorak Link in the show notes

CHAPTER 20 / 57 Discussion

Google Reader History, Mastodon, Nostr Protocol

The hosts discuss the history of Google Reader and Google's attempt to kill RSS in favor of centralized control. They explore decentralized alternatives like Mastodon and the new Nostr protocol (Notes and Other Stuff Transmitted by Relays), which is being supported by Jack Dorsey. Curry notes that Nostr is still in early development but has potential for a "value-for-value" financial model.

google reader· mastodon· nostr· jack dorsey· rss· decentralized media

53:32 What he's saying is that if we ban TikTok, which is again free and open internet. If we ban TikTok like Iran or something then the whole Chinese Taiwan thing's over? Is that what it's kind of implying here? So do we have to worry about China and Taiwan if TikTok goes? Is that the point? Yeah this is to scare you! Scare you... Couple of the things before we move on first of all Zuckerberg did actually have the opportunity to buy this when it was called musically Musically musical dot ly musically And the price wasn't right and that they negotiated for 14 months and byte dance outbid Zuckerberg 800 million dollars

54:26 And then of course it became TikTok and you know, it merged into the TikTok engine. And there and there it is! I need to say a couple things because I got a lot of love from people. Yeah, you're right. Tiktoks fantastic. You know what's the love Algo? Ultimately centralized media is a bad idea regardless It's just a bad idea. I would say for sure Invest some time in understanding Mastodon, and that has its problems too But you know we have a vibrant community of you know people and there's no algo. That's the thing There's not as long as there's no algo And I have some godlike powers there You know I haven't kicked one or two people off because they really just angered me that they weren't Participating in the community just to have an account somewhere but otherwise now you'd just leave it alone

55:19 And sometimes, because we don't have an algo it's annoying. Which is good! You know people tag me on their arguments like oh bye I'm mute conversation...I'm out. I'm not interested in that and it's kind of good because I don't want to be unmasked all day Podcasting, perfect example of 19 years of no messing with the infrastructure and we've solidified that with podcast index. RSS which Google tried to kill off by killing the Google reader Couldn't do it. It's still being used and today there is even Noster, have you heard about this Noster? N-O-S-T-E-R We're gonna hear about it now though I'm guessing but let me ask you a question first What do you think the motive was for Google to kill off Google Reader? Wasn't that it was unsuccessful in costing them a lot of money? They couldn't make money off of it

56:16 It wasn't centralized. They couldn't control it. So they never thought of it as a nice lost leader? No! Are you nuts?! No, that's what Gmail is. Gmail was their lost leader but they made sure they could read everything and now it's very profitable for them because they say right there we're reading your email so that we can see if there's anything there... To get better ads. Yeah, not for anything else really just for better ads Sure, but that's maybe sometimes some of this information data goes to the CIA and it say when they ask well They're busy. Don't ask we don't do it their big thing. Well there big things I don't do that. I would say the big thing that Google did was maps They bought keyhole which they definitely got from the CIA Google Maps is the best by the way. I wanted to bring up one more thing about Rubio quickly he brought up that Forbes

CHAPTER 21 / 57 Discussion

TikTok Spying Allegations, Forbes, HP Board Scandal

Allegations that TikTok spied on a Forbes reporter are compared to past scandals involving American companies like HP and AT&T spying on journalists. The hosts point out the irony that Forbes is owned by a Chinese company. They argue that tech companies tracking location data to identify internal leakers is a common, albeit controversial, industry practice.

tiktok· forbes· spying· location data· hp· info-world· at&t

57:10 Forbes reporter who TikTok was spying on, which is not true. TikTok got location data from a reporter and to match it up to see if any, because there was a leak. There was a leak of 80 hours of conversation of TikTok talking about what their strategy was and what they were going to do in America. And the Forbes reporter started reporting on it. I think you can probably corroborate this Tech companies in America have done this ad nauseam to reporters. Let's see where this reporter was, was anyone from our company near the reporter? Oh the AHP did it in a scandalous way! It ended up with I think it was the chairman of the board and they're getting kicked off getting fired... This woman who is just horrible onerous woman she started spying on

58:02 about five or six or seven major national reporters. But it's one thing, first of all the woman has the app so her IP and location data is known and it's like okay for advertising but oh now they're gonna find out where I am and then to see if any other employees are there and that's really bad how stupid are you reporter? But the funny thing is Forbes magazine is owned by a Chinese company It is funny. So, you know and even the reporters like yeah You know that happens that happens, you know it happens isn't but I had written years ago in the 80's I'd written something for InfoWorld about say AT&T he had these plans for some chip or Some damn thing some guy was feeding me this information From AT&T and I said well, you know, are you being it wasn't careful at all? Mm-hmm And they Dave AT&T got a little irked by these leaks and they

58:59 I don't know what they did, but they started looking for people within the company that were talking to me and they found a guy and fired him. Yeah! Did you feel spied on? Did you feel violated or did you feel kind of cool like wow i'm that important they spied on well I know there's some reporters who've been spied on they have had uh There's some way of suing and you can make a lot of money really so I was always looking forward to it but never happened Back to Nostra, N-O-S-T-R. Notes and other stuff through relays. And this is... No one owns this! No one can own it. People can only own apps I guess if you want to sell an app but there's so many open source apps. You can do all kinds of stuff with this Jack Dorsey has been seeding the community by helping developers out to bootstrap this

CHAPTER 22 / 57 Discussion

Nostr Technical Overview, Zaps, Satoshis

Adam Curry provides a technical overview of Nostr, explaining that it relies on relays rather than centralized servers. While not yet ready for mainstream use, the protocol allows users to "zap" each other with Satoshis (Bitcoin). The hosts compare its development to the early days of Podcasting 2.0 and emphasize the importance of user-controlled blocking.

nostr· relays· raspberry pi· satoshis· podcasting 2.0· decentralized social media

59:57 It's wonky still, but I can see what is happening. It is decentralized and so decentralized that it is just you. You and then you can tap into any number of relays which in a way like a Mastodon server But you can have one yourself, it's pretty easy to set up on a Raspberry Pi or your buddy can set it up. You don't need it... What do I want it for? Right now the first usage is social media network with follow, the whole thing! It's all in there Is it different than... why would I want that instead of the Mastodon I'm using

1:00:38 I think it's community-based. Mastodon, the cultural attitude of mastodon is retarded from its onset In my mind, you know a bunch of nut jobs who hate everybody and ban and block and NOS doesn't really have that capability You determine if you ban or block. You can't really block instances the way mastodon does it And there's one other thing that is what if I want to block instance? Oh you you personally can block it But it's not like someone else can block you from seeing someone else on your okay on your app It's it's a critical difference

1:01:23 They have some other, and it's just one way you can use Nostrn. And again it's notes and other stuff. You could do anything you want. You could have blogs run on it. Don't go and try it right now John. It's not ready for prime time. You'll hate it but I can say... I'm not seeing any reason I'd want to try it yet. No you don't. But I've been pretty good sometimes with identifying stuff And I think that this has legs. This has legs and they have a financial model built in, in some ways similar to podcasting 2.0 where you can zap people instead of like you can send them some Satoshis give it give it a year or two there's something going on here and its maturing quite quickly but anyway the point is

CHAPTER 23 / 57 Discussion

Medical Misdiagnosis Statistics, Lab-Grown Mammoth Meatballs

A report claims 15,000 Americans die daily from medical misdiagnosis and hospital accidents. In food news, an Australian company created a "woolly mammoth meatball" using Arctic DNA and lamb meat to promote meat alternatives. Additionally, Twitter's source code was recently leaked online, though the hosts suggest the breach has had little practical impact.

medical errors· mammoth meatball· woolly mammoth dna· twitter source code· elon musk

1:02:09 We have to do this. You know, like homeschooling get your kid out of school I don't care where they're at school Get your kid out of school It's toxic it's horrible and you know... And i just learned yesterday 15 000 Americans a day die from misdiagnosis by doctors and accidents in hospitals as things go wrong You really hear about that It's probably one of the biggest killers is medical doctors, not all of course are bad but you know we have a lot of doctors who were told to diagnose and prescribe and people die. And if you don't get reporting on it... You know your food now we have the mammoth balls! Did you hear about this crap? Yeah yeah

1:02:59 Yeah, I actually have the woolly mammoth ball next the man meatball but it's not for spaghetti very gross It's the work of an Australian company They mixed a small amount of woolly mammoth DNA found in the Arctic with lamb meat Researchers say they're making a point about meat alternatives. They claim it's a big innovation and food production no an April Fool's joke. Or Elon Musk, this was so funny. You probably heard about this. A security breach at Twitter parts of the company's closely guarded source code were actually leaked online that is the fundamental computer code on which the platform runs it includes security vulnerabilities Twitter has filed a lawsuit to try and determine who was behind the breach And no one cares! No one's building a new twitter out of twitter source code

1:04:05 Mastodon and Noster and podcasting all that source codes open go build yourself Well, I don't think that was the point. The point was that somebody could create some malware Another reason not to be on Twitter Are you really? Do you really use Twitter anymore? I certainly don't You use it more than I do As an inbox still Now I see you post a lot. Replies, I reply to stuff! No you well... I don't know... Well analyze the posts but you post a lot? I tend to only post the show of new shows You're even smarter than i am that's my point your even your ahead-of-the-curve got a couple notes here about the government ban ticktock ban a a government

CHAPTER 24 / 57 Discussion

Government TikTok Ban Reality, Alabama School Lawsuits

An anonymous government source clarifies that the TikTok ban on government phones is largely performative, as these devices are already restricted from downloading unauthorized apps. In Alabama, three school districts are suing major social media companies, alleging they have created a youth mental health crisis. The hosts compare these legal actions to the historic tobacco master settlement agreement.

tiktok· government phones· alabama· mental health· social media addiction· tobacco settlement

1:04:58 Individual contacted me, I shall remain nameless. You and John have been discussing the whole TikTok situation over the last few weeks... ...I'd like to provide some clarification." Please keep this anonymous of course! "...when the media reports that apps such as TikTok are now banned from government issued phones and digital devices it's a complete bullcrap!" Any government-issued phone can only be used for work related tasks. All activity is tracked and on most of them the ability to even download, use or install apps is disabled." Just another statement to make it seem like a proactive step as being taken when actually has never been allowed in the first place Yeah makes sense And so...it's all It's all a scam

1:05:46 Well, there's one little funny thing that is happening I think is cool and this could have some effect. And this is the Arkansas lawsuit against both Meta and TikTok. Arkansas is suing Meta and TikTok. The state claims the social media giants are making their platforms manipulative and addictive to children on purpose The lawsuits allege that both companies violated the state's Deceptive Trade Practices Act. Arkansas says Meta creates their products using complex algorithms designed to, quote, exploit human psychology and foster addiction to maximize user screen time."

1:06:26 The lawsuit against TikTok alleges that the app routinely exposes the data of Arkansas's consumers to access and exploitation by the Chinese Communist Party. This is very analogous to what's happening in Alabama, so that was Arkansas... In Alabama three school districts are suing Meta, YouTube, Tik Tok and Snapchat over student mental health Nice! Alleging the social media companies have created a youth mental crisis and the platforms are unreasonably dangerous and addictive. This youth mental health crisis is infecting all aspects of education, students are experiencing record rates of anxiety depression and other mental health issues because of the defendants intentional conduct

1:07:15 These students perform worse in school, are less likely to attend school more likely to engage in substance abuse and act out all of which directly affects plaintiffs ability to fulfill their educational mission. This I think is very analogous to the tobacco laws and this what I think the states are going for Hey these Silicon Valley guys they're cleaning up let's get us some that money just like the master state agreement Go for it. I think that, and it's probably a good idea... And- I think is a great idea and I think they should do exactly that if you're gonna take into the way that the tobacco money share went, go for it! I think they should do it these guys are making way too much money. We're going to talk about some of that mental health crisis after I say in the morning to you the man who put the sea

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Value for Value, Podcast Apps, Modern Protocols

The hosts discuss the "Value for Value" model and the technical advantages of modern podcast apps, such as transcripts, chapters, and "bat signal" alerts for live shows. They encourage listeners to move away from centralized platforms like YouTube and support independent developers using open protocols.

value for value· podcasting 2.0· transcripts· chapters· bat signal· podcastapps.com

1:08:06 In the, uh... what did I have? I had something. I can't remember what it was! Chief AI Officer that's what it was Ladies and gentlemen say hello to my friend on the other end Mr John C DeBorah Yeah, well in the morning to you Mr. Adam McCreary also in the morning our ship's seat boots to the ground feedin' the air subs and the water to dames tonight's out there And for those of you who are in the troll room thinking oh it's a donation segment I'm gonna leave no You missed some good content last time and we have now been integrating even more content into these donation segments We have two today because people stepped up let's see how the trolls are doing Oh 2068 for Thursday

1:08:47 We're up! Back to our old days, like the olden days during the COVID. That's right and well you know what? It's because this is as dangerous as COVID only for reals. Oh more dangerous! Much more dangerous The Trolls are in the troll room at trollroom.io You can listen to this show live on Thursdays and Sundays as we bring it to you live unedited The podcast also goes out live and unedited. And they can't take us down, this will never go away it's not like you're watching what you think is a podcast on YouTube we're not sitting there with our cans on and microphones No! We are an audio podcast You can drive while your listening to us You can do other things, you could yard work, you could be sitting in the lawn mower, you could using your weed whacker, you could doing the dishes

1:09:32 You can do all kinds of stuff. You can multitask, it's a great invention! Use our modern podcast app available at podcastapps.com to get all kinds of benefits we have transcript so you can read along many people in foreign countries like listening to us and reading along and they find that very handy We've got chapters and also you can get a bat signal alerted when the show goes live any show goes live that's using the new protocols And it's backwards compatible. You can use all of it could import all of your existing podcasts Don't be afraid move towards something that is not controlled by a large company support some smaller guys who are doing some end gals Who are doing some good work?

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No Agenda Art, Capitalist Agenda, Fiverr Promotion

The show highlights the work of "Capitalist Agenda," an artist who provides caricatures and thematic art for the podcast. The hosts promote the artist's Fiverr page and discuss the importance of supporting creators who contribute "time, talent, and treasure" to the community.

capitalist agenda· fiverr· podcast art· caricatures· cheesecake art

1:10:11 Now, as I said you can follow us on noagendasocial.com it's our mastodon server it's much better than being anywhere else give that a shot follow Adam at noagendasocial.com John C. DeBorek at noagendasocial.com and we uh...as part of our value for value model We have many artists, professionals who like to create art that will use and we're one of the few podcasts who do it. One of the few actually can because we accept time talent and treasure in return for the value that we provide with our shows And these artists make artwork that we then put on the podcast and people love it I would say that The Capitalist Agenda piece that we chose for episode 1541

1:10:53 was one of the, I mean people responded to this. This was the TikTok kind of cheesecakey lady with big red lips and the TikTok heart glasses and has had the love algo there. People responded well to this. They really did and we liked it and when we looked at a couple... By the way wanted to say something about Capitalist Agenda. I think that he is also available on Fiverr Fiverr, you know you can hire him to do stuff? More artists should do stuff. Five bucks! Yeah more artists should do this we'd be happy to promote it fiverr.com slash cap again agenda he used to be in the financial industry

1:11:36 I'm not sure what happened a lot of man. I have two of my drawing it I know what happened is one of those like a kid in school that won't listen to the history class because he's Drawing the teachers as got caricature of the teacher And then next thing you know, the principal goes into principle There's this story that actually is true This has happened to more than a few guys The principal gets calls and gotta go to the principal the principal sees What are you doing? He looks at all the artwork says Okay, well I don't know what to say but stop doing this in class But I'll tell you what can you do a caricature of everybody all the teachers in the school. We'd really like it Yeah these kids yeah No, no, I'm with you two or two of my friends got fired this week Yeah, I heard this one from Sirius XM He'd been there for 18 years and and one from the Disney Corporation

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Media Industry Layoffs, SiriusXM, Disney, Art Standards

Significant layoffs are hitting the media industry, including 500 people at SiriusXM and staff at Disney. The hosts discuss the departure of veteran talent relations executive Steve Leeds from Sirius. They also provide feedback to artists submitting work to the show, emphasizing the need for large, legible graphics that work on small mobile screens.

siriusxm· steve leeds· disney· layoffs· podcast art· megastrike

1:12:27 Yeah, high up guys too. You mentioned about the Disney guy but you didn't I don't know anything about the serious guy. What's happening in Sirius? Oh yeah they fired four or five hundred people and Steve Leeds who was the guy who called me in Holland said hey do you want to come work for MTV and Steve Leeds has been the music business for a long time he used to be the promoter of Led Zeppelin just to give you an idea of how far back he goes. Yes, that's good! Steve Lees is the guy you can call and say a friend of mine is a big U2 fan she's going to be in Ireland can you hook up with some tickets? And what happens is the girl my friend went to go pick... young woman went to go pick up some tickets

1:13:09 And the manager came out and said, oh no no look come on in I want you to show me the operation. I want you to meet everybody You know that the whole backstage experience That's what Steve Lee's does for people and he built up The Talent Relation Department at Sirius for 18 years Gone done A new guy came in. What does this guy do? I don't know, okay he's out! We know how it goes but you know it's real though and when you're a white guy and your over 50 there are not a lot of opportunities for you anymore Of course I suggest the recommended no agenda way is be gay for pay baby Come on get with the program

1:13:56 Anyway, so we hope everything goes well with Cap Agenda at that Fiverr. Now let's look at some of the art that we did not choose but did discuss... What did we look at? Although, Megastrike. We looked at the Megastrike stuff. You know Paul Couture also came up with a beautiful piece The Internet Tools Piece His art is just super professional and I wanted to mention that piece because it's so pretty It's called Discussing Depreciation Oh yeah he's very good That's a gorgeous piece I ended up using another Capitalist Agenda piece called Sportball for the newsletter because it was kind of like that It was cute Yeah The baseball

1:14:34 with it running down the spine. The other stuff was like, uh... It was not quite up to par there were some modernistic looking very super kind of surfer stuff from Monsieur Pirie whatever his name is and it was just always nice um bomb or something but a bomb with a tic-tock Yeah, that was the Netriot Act. And I... That was pretty good! And I really liked Mega Strike. Well we liked Mega Strike a lot there was and I wish he wouldn't have put 1541 on or redo it because i think that's usable in fact I think is reusable in different you can put different little monikers in that giant ball with guys carrying and this was done by

1:15:29 BW of BW are graphic. So I assumed it very professional have to assume it was a pro Also, we like mega strike as a title so that's how kind of how he got out of that I would say What else was there yeah our art doesn't reflect the title typically maybe one or two times in 15 years and people still making things too complicated too small So little words, little balloons of people saying stuff. It's got to be comically big because if you look at the art page, you know the submitted artwork that is the maximum size you're going to see this artwork probably even smaller on most phones and devices in podcast apps so please take that into account a lot these details just get lost

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Executive Producer Donations, Sir Blue Jay, Knight of Freedom Mountain

The hosts acknowledge high-tier donors, including Julian Carpenter ($1,000) and Lyle Pote ($400), who are granted knighthoods. Zach Nannis contributes $333.33 after being inspired by a humorous clip in a previous donation segment. Various listeners request "job karma" and "health karma" in exchange for their financial support.

julian carpenter· lyle pote· zach nannis· knighthood· donations· karma

1:16:21 You know, like TJ the Wrathful's human resources sparkles. The no agenda everything is a scam It's just too small you can't even read stuff you can't see it so you have to take the medium into account Am I saying that right? I don't know Close enough Thanks So appreciated We also like to thank people who support us financially. We had a very bad showing on the last show and people have definitely stepped up today, and we appreciate that. And we'd like to thank the executive and associate executive producers upfront. These are people who come in with $200K and above or $300K and above is really appreciated. We started off with Julian Carpenter from Glenwood Springs Colorado with one thousand dollars who says

1:17:07 I would like to be known as Sir Blue Jay of the Western Slope. Can i get a wet napkin and some small rocks at the round table? I think we can handle that, right? Small rocks and a wet lie. I was kind of wondering what is the deal with these small napkin and wet napkin in small rocks Can I get a quick karma from my mom said she can be released from the cold communist clutches of Canada Thanks. Yes, absolutely You've got karma Sir Knight DC in Sherwood Oregon

1:17:45 comes in with $800.85. That's the double D boobs! That's the double D boobs, the big boobs. Switcheroo, thank you both could I get a health cover for my wife this donation and 319 should Dame her till she gets credit for this Once she's back home, she can choose for now though Dame Bronk Rider of the Mountain Desert will be her moniker. Okay we'll do that for now you bet I guess he's the bronc. You've got karma So i'm gonna make her... let me do this switcheroo here and make sure we get that situated perfectly

1:18:27 Okay, boom. Onward to $400 from Lyle Pote. Pote? Pote? P-O-T-E. Concord North Carolina. Okay boys! This donation makes me a knight I shall be called the Knight of Freedom Mountain keep up the good work no karma no jingles call out to my smoking hot wife as a douchebag. And he says welcome to the family brother curry blessings to all thank you that brings us to Sir Pissant Peoria, Arizona. You don't think it's Pissant? I'm pretty sure it's Pissant He is in Arizona Greetings from Sir Pissant of Peoria My previous instantite donation did not include a note Thanks John and Adam for all you do Nowhere else can you get this content Can I get two to the head A camel-a crackle Cackle Camel cackle And can you see that juice? I think you can

1:19:32 Oh my gosh! Can you see that juice? Yeah. And that was 336.66 Oh yeah, interesting. Zach Nannis is in Los Angeles California sorry to hear that $333 and 33 cents and says John and Adam this donation brings me one step closer to knighthood which I planned to achieve this calendar year i was compelled to donate for my third time listening to Sunday's Donation Segment admittedly I do occasionally skip the donation segment to get back to the good stuff But while doing the dishes last night, I let the donations from Sunday's episode play through. And boy am I glad I did!

1:20:16 When Adam played the government official calling for Holden Hiscock, I absolutely lost it and was cracking up. Had I skipped the donation segment, I would have not heard this hilarious clip! And I shall never skip it again!! This was clearly a sign from the universe that I needed to make a big donation to the show and here we are. It may have been a silly clip but the perfect fusion of news deconstruction and hilarity is what makes this by far the best podcast in the universe and there's nothing better, and there's not better ways of supporting them with a little treasure. May I request a little health karma for myself for all those who need it? Thank you both through your courage yes you may Zach and thank you for that thanks for listening. You've got karma. A short note comes in from David Fugasoto also 333.33 from Gladstone Missouri

1:21:09 And he just says, uh, I heart no agenda. Job karma please, mercy! Jobs... jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! You thought karma. That's interesting He is usually really busy and overseas an everything. He is looking for-for jobs karma. Yeah, settling in Yeah, welcome home brother Steve Bryson bountiful Utah 333 33 thanks for each and every episode this little donation pales in comparison to the sanity and value you both bring to us all but it's truly heartfelt be well Thank You Steve Now we have let's see. There's a note here I'm gonna look it up chap Williams Do you have that note from I? Williams comes in a lot

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Meetup Raffles, High Class White Trash, International Donors

Alicia MacComer becomes an Executive Producer after winning a raffle at an Indiana No Agenda meetup. Ryan Tiernan promotes a new apparel line, "High Class White Trash," while donating $333. International support arrives from Switzerland and the Netherlands. Several donors request birthday jingles and "de-douching" for non-donating friends.

alicia maccomer· joshua chrome· hcwhitetrash.com· switzerland· michigan· birthday jingles

1:21:58 And this is the, this has happened before. Chap Williams comes in, these are checks from the bank because that's why it was gray and Chap Williams has been sending us 333 dot 33 including two times in a row couple of shows ago with like 2 or three days apart now I've not heard from him but we'll give them a double up karma You've got karma. 333, oh this is the Indie No Agenda Meetup Raffle and they held that in Greenwood Indiana and it means we have a switcheroo the way this works and a lot of meet up groups are doing this We like it a lot where they all throw money into the pot then they have a raffle or quiz or something else some way for someone to win the executive producership for the episode so this goes to Alicia Mac Homer

1:22:51 McComer switcheroo for her longtime listener first-time donor. I would like a deducing, please You've been D douched I have been listening to no agenda since my boyfriend hit me in the mouth just over a year ago took me A couple of months of listening on and off to get the show But once I fell in love with it, I've never missed an episode I would also like to call out my boyfriend who hid her in the mouth apparently Joshua chrome That's the ultimate douchebag! He has been listening since 2016 and still has not donated. Dude, I would also like to say thank you to everyone at my first No Agenda meetup since this past Sunday in Indianapolis. I would not have reached executive producer on my first donation without them everybody was kind and welcoming and had a good time meeting everyone. No jingles, no karma and a hooey-hooey! You got it Thank you very much Alicia

1:23:44 Then we come to... Oh my goodness, Tina is making a pot roast and it's making me hungry. I'm smelling it from here. Ryan Tiernan in North Providence Rhode Island sees separate emails sent to John $333 and in fact he did send an email. He did not- It didn't get forwarded to Jay because he didn't use donation in the subject line which I try to remind everybody do and some People forget or whatever, but I want to before. I read the note. I'm gonna tell you to put him on the birthday list Okay April 1st no other details So he's a April Fools boy

1:24:25 and Ryan Tiernan birthday list. I'm a relative newbie, writes to No Agenda but in the short period of time have come to tremendously value the analysis and levity you bring us listeners as Nero Fiddles! I am on the Knighthood Layaway program but wanted to step it up this month and share some karma with my jujitsu buddy Brian Hall recently launching high-class white trash apparel line he is bringing killer hats, tees and hoodies to the rednecks patriots and slaves alike. Please share some goat karma for his venture and check out his site at hcwhitetrash.com all one word

1:25:09 Is that it? What's the white, no. What's the HC stand for I wonder? Oh high class, high class okay hcytrash.com Keep up the amazing work and thank you for your courage PS as an anti-exit strategy put those trolls and their CPUs to work mining Bitcoin dust with a show Yeah trolls Start mining bitcoin for us there we go You've got I'm looking at hcwhitetrash.com, it's kind of funny! Yeah what is there? Oh it's apparel so its high-class white trash he's got hoodies 100% fake and free you know this there might be something...I might get some of this looks kind of cool we'll check it out yeah I will onward with Rene Bernhardts Grutter from Gosau

1:26:09 It's in Switzerland, 333. I have no note from Renee so Renee will get a double up Karma thanks Renee. You've got... karma Let me look again because i thought there was something that came in from Switzerland but I'll look yeah why don't you keep reading okay we have Amber Risi Latore Risa Latour, I hope i said that right. St Clair Shores Michigan Adam in the morning adam and john keeping it short and sweet endless thanks for all the laughs and the true value you provide us can i please add david m to the birthday list for the 330 show he's added and can i get a biscuit on my birthday jingle they always give me a biscuit on my birthday connection is protection burr in michigan thank you bur

1:26:55 Ralph in Miami $329.30 hmm I wonder what that is there must be something to it from Ralph of Miami is all we got there on the note so We'll just have to accept that numerology. We love numerology Dame Zelda in Muskegon, Michigan Switcharoo $250 first associate executive producer Please credit this to sir grumpy old boomer from his loving dame Zelda of the turtle realm for a 69th birthday Which is March 30th and I would like the jingle 6969 please I bet you would I got it for ya Are you back? Yeah, I can't. There's nothing there you're gonna have to take the next two notes i'll take the next one which is a nothing note which is from Arthur Sundry in Riverside. I'll go look for him too $250 so give him a double up karma You've got

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AUMF Repeal, National Guard Deployments, Senate Vote

The U.S. Senate voted to repeal the 1991 and 2002 Authorizations for Use of Military Force (AUMF) against Iraq, a move intended to return war powers to Congress. While the White House and Speaker McCarthy support the measure, Senator Mitch McConnell remains opposed. A retired sergeant notes that the National Guard has handled the majority of overseas operations under these authorizations for two decades.

aumf· iraq· senate· mitch mcconnell· war powers· national guard

1:27:52 karma We're getting to the end here Tom Jandron Clancy, Montana Roa ducks 222 22 in the morning gentlemen my first time donating after listening for about half a year. Please deduce me You've been D douched also Abby to birthday list it's my 45th trip around the Sun Please send me some entrepreneur jobs karma and some past this legislation Karma Love you all. Thank you very much." Yes, I'm gonna give you that and then I want to read a little bit of his note here. You've got karma Which I did check is it was okay to read this on Sunday you were talking about National Guard deployments to Syria. I'm a recently retired sergeant first class from the MTang Montana National Guard, I can tell you that the majority of the operations in Iraq Syria Africa and formerly Afghanistan are conducted by the National Guard A large contingent are based in Kuwait and dispersed from there This has been the case for 20 plus years as long as these wars are conducted under the authorization abuse of

1:28:55 AUFM, Authorization of Force Mandate? I thought it was A-U... anyway. I think it is A-U-M-S. Yeah, yeah, I think, yeah. Authorization of Military Force. Dating back to 2001 instead of formal declaration of war and I don't see this ever changing yes unfortunately that should be Congress's job. Well actually this gonna be repealed in the next, it's going to be repealed What, that Congress has to declare war? Yeah. I have some clips about it. It just showed up and it looks like... Let's play now! Military support finally to be repealed? Yep. Okay here we go. Next the Senate today voting to repeal authorizations for the use of military force against Iraq this is a significant moment as Congress tries to reassert authority in military intervention abroad

1:29:47 Every year we keep these AUMFs on the books is another chance for a future administration to abuse them. War powers belong in the hands of Congress, and so we have an obligation to prevent future presidents from exploiting these AUMFs to bumble us into a new Middle East conflict Authorization for the use of military force gave the US President broad powers to conduct military operations without approval from Congress. Repealing the 1991 and 2002 authorizations for use of force in Iraq marks a formal conclusion to the conflicts. It's also a symbolic reassertion of Congress' ability to declare war. Some Republicans, including Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell oppose repealing the war authorizations they argue the authorizations give the White House flexibility to respond to threats around the world at a dangerous time

1:30:43 The bill now goes to the House for a vote. Speaker McCarthy has signaled support for it, the White House also said it supports the measure Wow that's surprising Yeah you didn't hear that in the news did ya? No because the military industrial complex surely won't have it and it'll be interesting to see what people fold or buckle on this one And by the way only about 150 trolls left so they got this content congratulations trolls 150 left out of 2,000? Yes not bad. It's not bad. Oh you mean they left I thought there was only a hundred and fifty left No they left they bailed that's more important things to do than listen the content

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Defend the Guard Legislation, Montana Senate Bill 560

A grassroots effort in Montana is promoting "Defend the Guard" legislation (Senate Bill 560), which would prevent the governor from deploying National Guard soldiers to combat without a formal declaration of war. Similar legislation has been proposed in 26 other states. The movement recently gained national attention on Tucker Carlson's program.

defend the guard· montana· senate bill 560· tucker carlson· national guard

1:31:25 He continues, I've been working a grassroots effort in Montana to get legislation passed called defend the guard. The Lord would prevent the governor from releasing National Guard soldiers to combat deployments without a formal declaration of war. Yeah, this is great! I agree Senate Bill SB 560 will be heard in committee on Friday and we need people to call state senators tell them to support the bill yes that's how it works these days get off TikTok call so think all the phone Bastards! In his note and other notes which indicate our National Guard, which is run by the states for various state purposes. It's not just supposed to be lifted out to Ukraine or any place we have an army for that Yeah well of course the Army has been so decimated you know that's probably about right decimated only 10% You know 8000 service members wouldn't take the shot

1:32:25 So they're allowed to come back now, believe it or not. If you'd want to. They've got jobs? So be heard this Friday yeah so that's tomorrow! So call today SB 560 call your state senators tell them to support the bill we had a proposed in the house last month and was narrowly defeated by 11 votes so we have 30 co-sponsors supporting SB 560 about 26 other states that have proposed similar legislation this year and Montana's effort even got mentioned on Tucker Carlson show oh wow he says oh yeah Oh Wow Oh wow, far out. I know this is a long note not John's favorite no it was content This is good content we used it

1:33:02 Felt it was important to get this information out there Hopefully no agenda nation can make some calls as a link and a website to sign the petition defend the guard dot us Defend the guard US. Thank you for all that you do You both are our national treasure respectfully Tom Jean drawn, alright. Thank you very much Tom appreciate that. Yeah, I was a good Not just donation Robert Doland is next in Shelby Township Michigan Uh, two oh one three three and all he says in his note is net Ned. Oh well it's net Ned. No its Net Ned in the chat room! Oh and its Net Ned the artist? Yeah Net Ned on knowage into social. Net Ned. Oh so Robert is Net Ned. That's right thank you Net Ned. Give me double up karma. You've got... Karma

CHAPTER 32 / 57 Discussion

Teacher Feedback, Analog Clocks, Education System

A public school teacher from Missouri writes in to clarify that analog clocks are still taught in elementary schools, but students lack practice at home. The hosts discuss the general decline in skills like reading clocks and giving change, attributing the issue to the broader education system and the prevalence of digital devices.

education· analog clocks· teachers· missouri· counting money· public schools

1:34:00 And we have Sir Jimmy James. Oklahoma City, Oklahoma $200 almost rounding out our list here ITM Okie city meetup donation new drive idea Oh he's got an idea any D bags that show up to my meetup will be DD bagged by a donation from me whoa so the Oklahoma City Meetup Anyone, any one of those I guess the Okie City meetup. He will he will if you show up he'll be he'll de-debag you this one goes to Langdon the debug at my last meetup well let's... You've been dedouched! From God's abundance to me i give you all right this is good as a nice nice gesture and away way to go go to his meetup

1:34:47 And we wrap it up with Anonymous from Colorado Springs for 200 bucks. No jingles and no karma, and that's the way to go! So I want to thank all these folks for making show 1542 a good show. It is a good show. Yes, it's great show man. We'll do the rest of these call-outs later. Yes, we have a couple more and we got birthdays and we do have a dame in a couple of nights...and of course the meetups but for now we'd like to thank these executive and associate executive producers for supporting us royally today. It is much appreciated you can do that too if you'd like to go here vorac.org slash n a there forever credits we will vouch for you thank you for supporting 1542 our formula is this We go out, we hit people in the mouth New World Order Shut up slaves!

1:35:46 I have one more note to read. This is kind of funny. This is from one of our producers and she's Megan, and she writes in... Hello! My husband is a religious listener to your show so I sometimes hear parts of it also well I generally agree with many things you say I get frustrated sometimes with how you talk about teachers in the United States Oh? I have been teaching at public elementary schools for the past 15 years and i find it very bothersome in your show, by the way we've only talked about what she's going to complain about twice. Bothersome in your show that you have said teachers are not teaching students to read analog clocks

1:36:30 I don't think we've said that. I think we've said people cannot read analog clocks and that might be education related, I don't think we blame teachers. I blame everything on the education system so she's...I think she's right. I have taught first second and fourth grades in Missouri and i assure you that at each of those levels we do in fact teach children to read analog clocks The difficulty is only analog clock my students generally see in a day is the one in my classroom This skill, like so many others in early education is one that needs to be practiced repeatedly and regularly to be retained until families start using analog clocks in their homes again. Yes Or giving their kids analog watches Students will not become efficient at reading analog clocks no matter how many times they are taught in school I agree We see the same issue with counting money Mm-hmm And she complains about that too So well

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Nashville School Shooting, Media Model, Pharmaceutical Concerns

The hosts address the shooting at The Covenant School in Nashville, criticizing the media's "outrage model." They highlight the high rates of medication among young people, noting that many shooters are prescribed SSRIs or stimulants like Adderall. They argue that the media avoids discussing pharmaceutical links because drug companies are major advertisers.

nashville· covenant school· mass shooting· ssris· adderall· media outrage

1:37:27 I agree, people don't know how to give change. Not that it's a skill you need anymore but yeah that's the problem. Sometimes the customer makes out on that So the American media model was in high gear with this shooting in Nashville at The Covenant School And as you know, the American media model is that of outrage. It's your fault! No it's your fault because of this and because of that we're not going to give you that on your NOAJ in the show We may give you a few examples just to show what's really going on but first I'd like to say this is not a hoax

1:38:15 Even though, yes a couple of people showed up who have survived school shootings before. I believe those to be on the payroll of the anti-gun lobby and they're probably flown in the next day just stand there and not really know what they're talking about but say guns guns guns guns guns so for those of you who said the crisis doctors are out yeah um yes i think their PR agents And that's why they show up. I think most people have seen those videos Unfortunately, two of my friends know many of the families some of them personally and even some of the children who were killed. One of my friends was actually a youth minister at this very school for a couple years and was in the worship team... So this hits home as it's very difficult to just discuss this cavalierly

1:39:13 But there are a couple of things we need to talk about and I would say the most important one, yes We're all waiting for the For the manifesto but I think you can already kind of guess what's going to be in it? We are dealing right now. It kind of goes back to the teacher Although this is not all teachers but in general we have raised an entire generation of undereducated, over socialized and sadly fully medicated children. Tina and I were actually talking about this we have three daughters amongst us. I have two stepdaughters and she has one stepdaughter And at one point or another all of them have been prescribed some kind of medication Now what are the chances of that? You know so

1:40:03 It is an outrage how much medication is being prescribed to young people and the shooter in Nashville was I think 28 from all the reports. This is still an age where a lot of people are either given SSRI's, antidepressants or meth you know, Adderall. It's not discussed it's not talked about the media just like they won't talk about what was happening with COVID They're never going to bite the hand that feeds them this I think is one of the biggest problems but what happened in America certainly very subtly over the past couple years is Black Lives Matter has been replaced initially with LGBTQ and now its just T

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COVID-19 Impact on Education, Youth Mental Health Crisis

Data from the Harlem Children's Zone and nationwide testing shows that reading and math scores for fourth and eighth graders have dropped to 30-year lows following pandemic lockdowns. Emergency departments have seen a 50% increase in children presenting with mental health crises. Experts describe the pandemic as "throwing gasoline" on a pre-existing youth mental health fire.

covid-19· jeffrey canada· reading scores· math scores· mental health· orange county

1:44:38 But is that the real problem here? Is that really what's going on? No. I think the medication part is what is not being looked at and there's one other thing that is very concerning, which has taken place in the last three years which cannot be overlooked and I have to give it to CBS Sunday They didn't overlook it and this is what happened to our children, certainly in the United States but worldwide during COVID. It sure looks like the pandemic is over. Stadiums are open again crowds are everywhere and hardly a mask in sight but COVID hurt a lot of things you can easily see especially in schools I feel like I just need to stand on a mountaintop and just yell at folks take this seriously

1:45:27 Everything is at stake right now. Jeffrey Canada knows he's the founder of the Harlem Children Zone in Manhattan We all knew that the pandemic was going to affect education, but how bad is it? We've got the data now and things are bad They're actually worse than most of us thought In fact I would tell you that we have an education crisis right now The actual numbers vary by community, but according to a nationwide test given to fourth and eighth graders reading skills dropped to the lowest point in 30 years. And in math, nearly 40% of 8th graders couldn't understand basic concepts. The worst performance since testing began back in 69'. This is not just poor kids who are living in the urban centers it's all over America there has been a dramatic reduction in ELA and in math scores this goes along with the loss of students in school with increased violence that's happening and their behavioral problems that kids are facing

1:46:28 In my career of more than 45 years, I've never seen anything close to this. So listen carefully what he's saying behavioral problems There's a lot going on here and it's not hard to see how it happened Experts say remote teaching and a lack of computers at home are to blame okay add to that the fear of watching your family members die is And it's no wonder millions of young people had trouble learning. A reminder, the government your governments your states shut you down shuts your children in terrorized your children and the media did a good job too or even making it through the day

1:47:04 We have seen an increase of 50% in the number of children presenting to our emergency department from the beginning of the pandemic, to last fiscal year. Fifty percent? Fifty percent Kids who are in some sort of mental health crisis Yes So what did this place look like during the spike? Heather Hustie Chief of Psychology at Southern California's Children's Health Orange County says even she couldn't believe how many kids needed help What we're saying, those of us in children's mental health is it was burning embers even before the pandemic and the pandemic came and just threw gasoline on that fire. We're seeing more and more kids come in who are having suicidal thoughts. We're seeing more and more kids come in who are like my grades have dropped I can't function anymore And if we don't help kids sort of manage some of these mental health concerns they can't learn effectively These kids are struggling

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Nashville Shooting Motive, Anti-LGBTQ Legislation, Social Media Rhetoric

The hosts examine the conflicting narratives surrounding the Nashville shooter's motive, including claims of a "hate crime" against Christians versus retaliation for anti-LGBTQ legislation in Tennessee. They play clips of social media users arguing that the shooter may have been bullied by the religious institution they attended.

nashville· tennessee· drag shows· christianity· hate crimes· social media

1:47:57 If you add into that the screens and in particular TikTok, who as we discussed like to bring communities together. When you have communities on, like conservative things or Christians it all works everyone's happy over there but at the same time you also have communities that say things like this. They obviously didn't release a motive as to why she shot up the school but I've got pretty good guess What have Christians been doing lately? They've been banning books about LGBT they've been discriminating against LGBT they are banning drag shows

1:48:36 So people are screaming, my God it's a hate crime against Christians. But how about they are the ones that were bullying her first? And I can't help but think this trans man targeted Christian school that he attended that he may have had very negative experiences at how much the anti LGBTQ legislation impacted his mental health to push him to this point People don't just go up and shoot up a Christian school being the demographic that they are in the political climate that we're in, just because they felt like it. Like all of the other mass shootings when all these dudes like just did it for fun or you

1:49:19 you know, they're anti-Semitic or nobody would fuck them. You know like those reasons? It seems like he was an old student from that Christian Academy also in Tennessee where they recently banned drag shows in a law that is so vague my wife who wears men's clothes but identifies as woman could get arrested walking down the streets of Tennessee So these things are clearly not good. When you add this to medicated children and you have this type of messaging, it's not going to end well now the other... You got to have a 3D view of everybody! If you look at the other side, the school is connected to PCA Presbyterian Church in America which

1:50:04 which in the 70s split off from the Presbyterian Church and they're extremely conservative. One of the things that, I'm no expert on it but they won't allow women pastors, they want... No woman can educate men this is just from what i understand from my cursory research on it. So, you know people are different and people have different views but when you add this the social media add the screens which trigger certain behavior and you have adults these are adults who are saying this stuff, you have a recipe for disaster. But the bigger picture here according to educators like Jeffrey Canada is that this could be a kind of lost generation under educated to the point where it drags down their future Undereducated? Yes! Oversocialized? yes and ours I read one study that

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Lost Generation, Lost Earnings, Parental Responsibility

Educators warn that the "lost generation" of undereducated and over-socialized children will face significantly lower lifetime earnings. The hosts urge parents to address their own addictions to social media and screens to better support their children. They argue that the current cultural polarization over religion and gender is a distraction from these core issues.

lost generation· lifetime earnings· parenting· social media addiction· presbyterian church

1:49:19 you know, they're anti-Semitic or nobody would fuck them. You know like those reasons? It seems like he was an old student from that Christian Academy also in Tennessee where they recently banned drag shows in a law that is so vague my wife who wears men's clothes but identifies as woman could get arrested walking down the streets of Tennessee So these things are clearly not good. When you add this to medicated children and you have this type of messaging, it's not going to end well now the other... You got to have a 3D view of everybody! If you look at the other side, the school is connected to PCA Presbyterian Church in America which

1:50:04 which in the 70s split off from the Presbyterian Church and they're extremely conservative. One of the things that, I'm no expert on it but they won't allow women pastors, they want... No woman can educate men this is just from what i understand from my cursory research on it. So, you know people are different and people have different views but when you add this the social media add the screens which trigger certain behavior and you have adults these are adults who are saying this stuff, you have a recipe for disaster. But the bigger picture here according to educators like Jeffrey Canada is that this could be a kind of lost generation under educated to the point where it drags down their future Undereducated? Yes! Oversocialized? yes and ours I read one study that

1:51:01 these kids' earnings, their lifetime earnings will be affected in the tens of thousands of dollars. There's a whole cohort of young people who are not going to get the kind of education that is going to allow them to get the best jobs It's gonna cost lots of kids tens of thousands of dollars over there earnings some hundreds of thousands of dollars We keep forgetting that this is about America That eight-year old is going to be 20 when you blink your eye and 25 in a short period of time. She needs to be an engineer, he needs to be a medical doctor. We need to start thinking about these kids as the resources for this country." Canada says there are ways to fix this like intensive tutoring throughout the week extending the school day and keeping classrooms open in the summer

1:51:51 All right, so anyway CBS goes on with that but the core problem is the medication. The medication is not good and you add to that social media with algorithms which intentional or not are just destructive and it's up to parents themselves And they have to stop their own addiction to this crap. Take it from an old fart, you gotta stop this addiction that's the only way we're gonna move forward and everything else if you find yourself yelling, ah you know trans people what are your pronouns? Or if you find yourself yelling Christians yeah they're crazy then you are part of the problem You got a step away This is how they make money off of you and its off children backs now It's pathetic

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Pharmaceutical Advertising, Joe Biden Chocolate Chip Ice Cream

The hosts call for a ban on direct-to-consumer pharmaceutical advertising, which is only legal in the U.S. and New Zealand. They also critique a recent White House press event where President Joe Biden joked about chocolate chip ice cream immediately before addressing the Nashville school shooting, calling it a "wrong moment" for the administration.

pharmaceutical ads· joe biden· chocolate chip ice cream· white house· media savvy

1:52:37 This would be solved with one simple edict or law, it's just completely obliterated. Go back to the days when it was illegal to advertise drugs on television I completely agree and we were talking about that television is also a problem When you're watching television and America New Zealand are the only countries but in America certainly where you can advertise direct-to-consumer We talk about a tension arc. So when you're watching a show, there's a tension arc and it moves up and it goes up and you're like okay this is great! It's getting exciting boom that's when they break

1:53:20 for ads and then write it, and your mind is wide open. You're ready you'd be in this story and it's telling you what you have what you might have irritable bowel, your fat, diabetes, depressed, depression medication not working and then you're back in the story! And it is one of the most destructive things and turn it off just turn it off now there was something funny to all this just keep it light Every single station, when this took place immediately ran right away and you could watch Fox and they give you your version. And then you can watch ABC and CBS and NBC and they give you their version but all of them made this

1:54:06 And I think it's a, um...I would say it's the White House press shop as they call it. It's their fault because everybody was waiting for the president to come out and say something They had people on talking about guns and how horrible it is and the mass shootings Anything but drugs of course! This happened at every single station as they cut live to the President Two things Until we figure out a way to create systems within local government that are better able to- We're going to take it to the podium now, Brad. The President of the United States speaking now My name is Joe Biden I'm Dr. Joe Biden's husband And I ate Jenny's ice cream chocolate chip I came down because they heard there was chocolate chip ice cream

1:55:04 By the way, I have a whole refrigerator full upstairs. You think i'm kidding? No no, Ben how are you pal? Did I say Obama by accident? So what happened is he was speaking for a women's conference wasn't notified The press should have been told we're gonna tell you when to cut Because he does have a statement, they were all waiting for the president to speak. Waiting for the president to speak! And then he went on about chocolate chip ice cream and some kids in the audience because he is not media savvy, he's barely life-savvy and it was such a wrong moment this is exactly what we didn't need although maybe you do show that this guy cannot be president This administration... everything's wrong about it

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Nashville Shooter Identity, Jocelyn Berry Resignation

The media's handling of the Nashville shooter's identity is discussed, specifically the debate over "deadnaming" and gender pronouns. In Arizona, Governor Katie Hobbs's press secretary, Jocelyn Berry, resigned after posting an image on Twitter that appeared to advocate for violence against "transphobes" shortly after the shooting.

aiden hale· deadnaming· jocelyn berry· katie hobbs· arizona· reddit

1:55:52 Did you see that? Any of those cutaways? It was very funny. There were a number of aspects to all this that were interesting, one was the insistence that this is all about gun violence they would... The CNN in particular but also the networks who refused to discuss the transgenderist aspect wouldn't do it. They never mentioned that and they deadnamed her which a lot of people complained about, or then named him. Whose name was... She, Him had a Reddit account that somebody in the No Agenda chat room had listed and I went to it and read all the posts it was quite interesting this person was something of a counselor to transgender youth

1:56:49 And never hinted that this person was violent. Hard to get him in her because he called her Haley by her name, but she wanted to be pronounced him, her or him he and a name Aiden which is what this account was on Reddit. It was very interesting the way they nobody wanted to discuss this they ended up just calling it calling the person Haley and letting it go not even getting into the violent aspect of it because there is a violent undercurrent going on that's visible with t-shirts and in fact my favorite story is the idiot, and of all things, public relations person. In Arizona? Yeah this person was a public relations specialist posting on Twitter a woman holding two pistols

1:57:46 And with the, in fact I think have a clip of this describing it. Oh wow you have that? I didn't even get that! I have a lot of clips. Good Let's see Genderfoyle, most dead naming shooter. I had to figure out which clip... Idiot press secretary clip! Transgender identity is causing a controversy in Arizona Governor Katie Hobbs's press secretary is resigning after apparently calling for violence against those who oppose transgenderism The Arizona Governor's Press Secretary Jocelyn Berry posted this image on her Twitter account on Monday just after the Nashville school shooting. The caption reads, us when we see transphobes. The suspect in the Nashville school shooting was born as a woman and identifying as a man

1:58:35 Hobbs's office confirmed earlier today that Berry resigned following pressure from her circle and other lawmakers. The governor's office said in a statement, quote the governor does not condone violence in any form the post by the press secretary is not reflective of the values of the administration." Yeah she resigned obviously it's like wait a minute you're what? A press this is a person who supposed to be media savvy That's what, I mean it's just like beyond me. Well again this is the new Black Lives Matter It's better than Black Lives Matter because you don't have to have a certain skin color to be trans or to be called trans or to be called a transphobe and this is so evil So evil And its really a small percentage but even these poor children Again this is a Washington Post poll

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TikTok Gender Identity Rants, Non-Binary Nuance

The hosts play and critique several TikTok videos where individuals express outrage over being misgendered or "deadnamed." One video features a person explaining the complex relationship they have with womanhood while identifying as non-binary. The hosts characterize these videos as examples of people making national tragedies about their own personal identities.

tiktok· non-binary· gender pronouns· transphobia· misgendering

1:59:32 that finds out that most of these trans kids aren't really transgender but they either feel peer pressure or they just don't feel like they fit in again back to the drugs, back to the pharmaceuticals. This is the crisis but all we do is spend time on yelling about trans, transphobe, trans anti-trans woman not a woman you know the media it's their model and they've gone from racist to transphobes And there and it's this is now. It's really about that now we're really killing children Congratulations media well, they're not gonna stop no but now the course It it's helped out by some of these I have a slew of these tick-tock people Complaining about one thing or another regarding this okay? Yeah, I can play some of them less like for example the complaint about

2:00:25 Very this is a person who seems kind of drugged up because it didn't seem seemed too important to them about the shooting itself But what was really important was they kept dead naming? The shooter and this is eight inhale. That's the name of the Nashville shooter This video has got to be very uncomfortable for a lot of us It's very uncomfortable for me to talk about that we how old do you think this sir, this woman is who speaking I She appears to be about 24. Okay, all right. Need to talk about it Aiden did a very horrendous thing period point blank we need pew-pew reform in our country but the way that the media and the police are misgendering and dead naming Aiden is quite concerning it's also concerning that I had to go to The Telegraph from UK To actually get Aidens

2:01:16 chosen name. It's upsetting that constantly it is she her pronouns That is incredibly frustrating because even though they did this horrible thing does not mean that we get to do those things That's a boundary and we can hold people accountable without being transphobic Even for some of the most horrendous things So while you're watching this also watch for transphobia because that's very clearly coming out Yeah, this is people making about themselves Which is really, that's just as evil. I'm gonna make it about myself, make it about my video Make sure you watch my video! Make sure you catch me talking about it because I'm really important This is very bad It's not getting any better and here's listen to this one this woman is uh... This is just the really weird one. This is gender foibles crazy

2:02:09 The thing that's complicated about my whole gender situation, and I feel like there are other non-binary people who deal with this too. Is the fact that the way i understand my gender and the way that I want other people to understand my gender are two wildly different things because I and certain people that I've talked to about this understand the nuances and complicated relationships that I have with womanhood so those are included when we think of me as a woman or say she her like those weird relationships are still understood but almost everyone else they don't have that so they don't get to call me those things. To almost everyone else in real life I am NOT a woman and i use they them, but then because I will call myself a woman or used she-her understanding the nuances of it all...I feel guilty when I feel bad about

2:02:53 Getting misgendered by people who should be using they them and not thinking of me as a woman I mean, they're not wrong except. They don't know they're not wrong They've been told I'm non-binary and I use they them so why are they still thinking of me as a woman? Yeah This is the outrage this is how this this person's in outrage mode Program to do that program to do that No matter what your problem is there's no reason to be yelling like that and be so angry about it Seriously. There's something weirdly silly about it, but here is the one that I always thought was kind of a kicker because this reflects some of the T-shirts you're seeing as somebody sent me...I didn't post this in the newsletter but a bumper sticker showing the trans flag with an AR15 on top of it and this is the trans woman pushing violence or I think pushing violence

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Trans Rights Activism, Calls for Violence, Tennessee Riots

A profane video from a trans activist calls for residents of Tennessee to "fight back" and "beat" police officers if arrested under new state laws. The speaker suggests organizing "prison busts" and claims a "trans genocide" is imminent. The hosts compare this rhetoric to the Black Lives Matter and Antifa models of civil unrest.

tennessee· trans rights· activism· prison bust· civil unrest· black lives matter

2:03:50 Trans people in Tennessee, it's time to fucking fight. Trans allies in Tennessee, it's time to fucking fight! Trans women if they lock you up for identifying as a woman... I want to stop the clip for a second For one, I just want to warn people this is extremely profane so you can, y'know, if you don't want your kids to hear it The second thing is this is the voice of someone who's coked-up and its got that sound And if I can say John is an expert at identifying uh people who are coked-up Well you have, I think isn't uh... You have friends that are good at this. Coked up? No! No friends that are good at identifying it Yes yes yeah but your expert at it

2:04:33 I think so. It's a great skill to have! Well, this voice with this adenoidal quality is definitely qualifies for being coked up. Fight resist you're gonna die anyways we're going to die anyways it's time to fucking resist fight them hurt them if they put their hands on you beat them We are at an attack it's time to fight back do you hear me? Trans people in Tennessee, trans men and trans women non-binary. Fight! If they try to arrest you or have you arrested on a felony for existing beat them team up gang together get people who agree with you to come and fight carry a weapon at all times And yes, you have to attack the police officer allegedly

2:05:29 but it's time. it's time! if they're gonna try to jail and police you for existing, you fight them! you fight them! and if they lock you in prison... fuck up the guards!! Bust out of prison! Jump in with other trans people. It's time we organize a prison bust in Tennessee, guys. It's time we start fighting. If they put their hands on you, fight them. Trans people, fight them. We will not let them create genocide for trans people I am so tired. I was in a live the other day with two trans people who denied this

2:06:10 Out of my way! I disown any trans person who disagrees with this notion. You are not allowed at the fucking table It's time to fucking fight transgenocides around the corner stop debating cis people in your existence I do not debate my existence is not a conversation We fucking fight now or we die and we're not gonna die debating cis people They're gonna have the last word. They're joining your life to call you a man. They're joining your life life to call you a woman. They're joining your life to misgender you, to get the right pronouns, to tell you that you're not a distant. They are fucking with you and you are an idiot! Yeah this is going to end in riots this is the Black Lives Matter model and they've just transplanted it and they're abusing children mainly because think of the children which is always a good one

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Marxist Dialectic, Cisgender vs Transgender, Oppression Models

The hosts analyze the term "cisgender" as a tool of Marxist dialectic designed to create an oppressor-versus-oppressed framework. They compare the current gender categories to the historical "bourgeoisie vs. proletariat" model used to spark revolution. They argue that these linguistic inventions are intended to foster societal division and revolt.

marxism· dialectic· cisgender· bourgeoisie· oppression· hegelianism

2:07:06 Man, I don't know. You and I know many parents who are all in on this too! Yeah, it's interesting and the thing that is going on here similar to Black Lives Matter is Marxist dialectic. And what they've done and I've been kind of working on some research trying to figure out when some of these terms came along most of them around 1990 this all new stuff by the way we're watching. The development of the word cisgender is the thing that fascinates me because now there are two... So now have a split Instead of two sexes, male and female we have two genders. Two gender categories the gender category is trans and cis and those are opposite And they oppose each other in one Marxist way One is the oppressor that's the cis and then there's the oppressed which is the trans and the cis interestingly enough includes gay men Gay women They're all cis-gendered

2:08:08 heterosexuals and that's all the various genders within the cis community. And then the trans have all the intersectionals and all of this, these rather new inventions. And it creates this Hegelian Marxist dialectic so you have this opposition one group to the other in a whole invention of cis gender which should've been rejected from the get-go is part of this, that's why they created it. So you can create this model that you're describing as similar to Antifa or Black Lives Matter which is exactly the case but you end up with some crazy stuff and I have two more clips

2:08:53 And one of them is this one, which again is profane and people should be careful. This one I...this was actually kind of funny. This is an obvious dude who wants to be recognized as a woman even though he shows no characteristics of one but gets bent out of shape in a store for being called sir And he just goes nuts. And this is the profane misgender rant. Excuse me, it's ma'am! It is ma'am! You need to settle down and mind your business. Ma'am once again, ma'am I said both of you No, you said sir Once again its ma'am I actually said both of you guys Right beforehand you fucking said sir Motherfucker take it outside if you wanna call me sir again I will show you're fucking sir

2:09:42 So in this Marxist dialectic What are the earlier examples in Marxism of these types of Well, the bourgeoisie was created for this purpose as a term to really incorporate the middle class and the elites as the oppressors of the poor and the working class because the whole Marxist thing began as kind of a working-class... you know, the working class, the peasants were gonna take over the world. The workers control the means of production

2:10:44 Why are they, you know being oppressed? And it's just an oppression model that if they can use to get you to be oppressed. You're in the oppressed class which in this case would be trans and you have to fight it! You have to revolt! You have to have a revolution!" And we're at that stage now I mean now we're actually at that stage which I think has very little maybe... We don't know what The Manifesto says again You know, you add drugs to this problem. We kind of know what it says. We kind of know what it's about but you add pharmaceuticals... This is the new thing! I don't think that the bourgeoisie and the peasants that there was mind-altering drugs involved in this which we don't really even know how they work

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NBC Out, Gender-Affirming Care Bans, PBS NewsHour Poll

A segment from PBS NewsHour featuring "NBC Out" discusses the rise in state bills targeting LGBTQ issues. A Marist poll found that 43% of Americans support criminalizing gender-affirming care for minors, a 15% increase since 2021. The hosts dispute the terminology used, such as "gender-affirming care," labeling it a rewrite of language.

nbc out· pbs newshour· gender-affirming care· marist poll· bathroom bills

2:11:29 Well, that reminds me when I was a student myself in grammar school. Elementary school whatever you want to call it. Nobody committed suicide! let alone felt like it. I don't know when they started committing suicide, but it wasn't during those years. I have one last clip which is that this a woman on PBS discussing some of the issues going on about these laws which she says really what's triggering all this and in Tennessee you can make that argument because the law was just some anti... It wasn't anti-trans, it was anti-T

2:12:07 teaching kids stuff. Yes, it's inappropriate behavior in front of children! Yes but they call...they like to call it anti-trafficking and this is interesting because this comes from a woman doing the speaking on PBS not the host but the woman that they brought on is from an operation called NBC Out. Oh? Now I never heard of NBC out no NBC out is a LGBTQ++ news source from NBC that's been around, that showed up first appeared in 2016 as soon as Trump was elected. And it's pretty much anti-Trump and the Republican news stories but let's listen to this. I just want to add whenever you hear Christian on the news that's code for Republican Trump

2:13:07 That's really the idea here. It's not even against Christians, it's just Republicans trumped. Heaven forbid a Democrat be a churchgoer. Legislation targeting LGBTQ people has just been growing exponentially over the last three years so you have more than 400 bills targeting LGBTQ people that have been filed so far this year in state court. Stop a second! Yeah, targeting and the word use of at least it bothers me of exponentially. And what she'll prove herself is by showing some stats, it's not true. You should add logarithmically just to make it even better. Exponentially! It has been growing but not exponentially. Legislation targeting LGBTQ people has just been growing exponentially over the last three years so you have more than 400 bills targeting LGBTQ people that have been filed this year in state legislatures and

2:14:03 And as those have been filed, they've been growing increasingly more extreme. And the best example we have of that is gender affirming care bans. So when those were first filed a few years ago Notice the term gender affirming care gender-affirming care. This is this not also part of the Marxist playbook and I think it's okay to say... Yeah, to rewrite the language yeah absolutely As a capitalist country as Republic that's where you and I are that's how you when I were old so you and I were brought up this is bullshit This is new stuff, it's made up. As those have been filed they've been growing increasingly more extreme and the best example we have of that is gender affirming care ban so when those were first filed a few years ago they targeted minors which advocates said was still already very extreme more recently this year we saw the first ever bill

2:14:54 that would have banned gender-affirming care for people up to 26 years old. So as they're growing more extreme, conservatives are also feeling like they can add on these bills that would have previously sparked more backlash like bathroom bills And as you just noted, bathroom bills are not happening in a vacuum. There was a new PBS NewsHour NPR Marist poll that found 43% of Americans now support laws criminalizing gender-affirming care for minors 54% oppose such laws That's 15... It's it's a bit of a stretch to go from bathroom bill to call that a gender affirming care bill

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Matt Gaetz, Lloyd Austin, Drag Queen Story Hour

During a congressional hearing, Representative Matt Gaetz questioned Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin about taxpayer-funded "Drag Queen Story Hours" on military bases. Austin denied that the Department of Defense funds or supports these events, but Gaetz presented evidence of scheduled shows at Ramstein, Malmstrom, and Nellis Air Force Bases.

matt gaetz· lloyd austin· department of defense· drag queen story hour· military bases

2:18:06 I mean it's really quite amazing how far this is going and and i think a lot of people like hey you know maybe I'm old-fashioned, you're being told your old fashion but the result is clearly not good. This is also coming from all the institutions and I've got to hand it to Matt Gaetz he really really do the number on what's our Joint Chief of Staff Austin, what's his name? Lloyd Austin. The guy with the mask and a shield and a hazmat suit

2:18:46 Listen to what Matt Gaetz did and he was talking to Austin and to Millie, and he starts off with Austin. I guess my question is how much taxpayer money should go to fund drag queen story hours on military bases? You know, drag queen story hours is not something that the department funds. Wait a second! That's actually not what the record seems to suggest. You were going to fund one at Ramstein Air Force Base—that one got cancelled but that's DOD insignia? That's a drag queen story hour for children then also at Malstrom Air Force Base outside of Great Falls Montana you had a drag queen story hour for kids

2:19:29 at the Joint Base Langley-Eustis, you put on a drag queen story hour on a Saturday for the first ever kid friendly diversity equity inclusion summer festival and at Nellis Air Force base yet the Drag U Nellis on June 17th. Who funded these things Mr Secretary? Listen, uh... drag shows are not something that the Department of Defense supports or funds. Why are they happening on military bases I just showed you the evidence Why are they happening? I will say again, this is not something that we support or fund. So you think hosting a Drag Queen Story Hour on a military base isn't supporting the Drag Queen Story Hour? I stand by what I just said But but... You may stand by it but its belied by the evidence over and over again Are you aware of the peace

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General Milley, White Rage, Diversity Training

General Mark Milley was questioned by Matt Gaetz regarding his previous comments on "white rage" and the inclusion of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) books in military schools. Gaetz also highlighted racist tweets from a DOD official. Milley claimed he was unaware of the specific incidents and agreed that such rhetoric is inappropriate for the military.

mark milley· white rage· diversity equity inclusion· matt gaetz· recruitment

2:20:24 Biden's military, Air Force Base in Montana holds drag show Drag Queen Story Hour for kids in the Western Journal. Are you aware of that? Again I will say what I've said before You're saying what you're saying but it just doesn't comport with the facts So then to prove that Black Lives Matter is kind of on the way out Or to prove the point. I don't think that's why Matt Gaetz was doing it He now switches to General Milley you'll recall general mille Made this big deal about I want to understand white privilege, I want to know what it's about I'm deeply concerned about we actually had a clip of it well here he is now general Milley This will be my last time to question You mentioned two years ago that? You wanted to better understand white rage and so my question Is this did you read this book?

2:21:11 No, not at all. What is White Privilege? It's the book and it's actually written by a DOD official, a senior official in diversity equity and inclusion and there are now hundreds of these books in dozens of schools I wonder if you guys connect this to your problems with recruiting. I've never read it never seen Frankly, I don't even think about that stuff. Go ahead and put up the next slide please. In the next slide this is a tweet by one of your employees in charge of diversity, equity and inclusion. And it's patently racist! They say that she had to give Karen the business... That she talks about caudacity presumably of Caucasian people. So I guess why does the- Look at that. Well why is that person saying more? You're not going to get an argument from me. That's terrible, its wrong, you shouldn't be doing that period. Should she be fired? I don't-that's a DOD employee Not US military uniform. Okay should they fire Secretary Austin

2:22:13 Again, as you heard in your subcommittee here this incident was investigated and... And they're still employed. General's time has expired Can I get copies of those because i'd like to take a look at those myself actually take a look and find out what? Actually is going on there because that's the first time hearing about that kind of stuff. I don't read those news stories I don't know where you're talking about, I'd like to take a look at this cuz I don't agree with Those well they're now in official records shouldn't be happening thank you Thank you for that admission There you go backpedaling all the way out onto shore so black lives matter outs

2:22:50 trans kids and gender-affirming care in. And the whole country is, and the world really is in irons over this because oh you know poor children's gender affirming care there's all these words that we're using! I think the statistics show that it doesn't always turn out really well And then, just to make sure we get all the Christians and the Republicans and the Patriots all worked up Fox News. Here's Miss McEnany who doesn't remember her paying a lot of attention to a Wall Street Journal and University of Chicago poll

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Wall Street Journal Poll, American Values Decline, Patriotism

A new Wall Street Journal poll shows a sharp decline in the importance of patriotism, religion, and having children among Americans. Kayleigh McEnany discussed the results on Fox News, attributing the decline to the "deterioration of core values." The hosts argue that the data is skewed by the COVID-19 period and is being used to foster further divisiveness.

wall street journal· kayleigh mcenany· fox news· patriotism· religion· family values

2:23:31 Boy, because those guys were right about Trump in 2016. They were right on the money so these polls are really... You know these polls are good listen to this We begin with a new and disheartening poll on the direction of where our country is headed Right there! Sigh up incoming! Incoming sigh up And what they reveal about the core values that have defined us as a country for generations New Wall Street Journal polls showing patriotism, religious faith having children and hard work have declined in importance to Americans. Check this out patriotism plummeted over the last 25 years

2:24:08 Back in 1998, 70% of those surveyed ranked it as being very important to them. Now just 38% feel that way more than 60 percent said religion was very important to them in 1998 today well it's less than 40%. And family values, like having children also have dropped sharply. In 1998 59% of Americans believed having children was very important now just 30 percent do the polls are not entirely surprising we've seen the deterioration of America's core values right before our eyes you don't look far from a distortion as American flag from this symbol patriotism into one oppression

2:24:54 And while the kneeling for our national anthem on one football field, well that was applauded pretty widely. The kneeling of a Christian high school football coach Coach Kennedy in prayer on another football field that got him fired it took the Supreme Court to write that wrong mean Meanwhile, children are being taught that America is systemically racist. And for those of you without kids while the left says don't have them for the sake of the planet The polls just reaffirm what we've been witnessing for decades The decline of American values that have helped define the national character of our country A couple things

2:25:32 If you really look at the numbers, all this drops off end of 2019 into COVID. So you almost have to strike that from the record that three-year period so they don't really tell you that it's like oh it was a steady decline and now we're... It's all the way down here. Two once again the very pretty Kelly McEnany is bringing in religion, bringing in divisiveness. They all do it and you gotta... Where does this come from? Is this truly like that Russian guy said, oh yeah we set this up 30 years ago and I mean what was the name? It's been going on, we got enough people in the population now that is really paying off, you can make good money talking about polls, I got this poll thing I've gotta read

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Ron DeSantis Education Poll, Survey Methodology, Climate Change Parallel

A survey from intelligent.com claiming that one in eight students refuse to attend Florida colleges due to Governor Ron DeSantis's policies is criticized for its methodology. The hosts reveal that the poll specifically targeted students who already disagreed with DeSantis. They compare this to "90% of scientists" claims in the climate change debate.

ron desantis· florida· intelligent.com· survey methodology· education policy

2:26:24 Because I think these polls, you know when I read this you'll see what i'm talking about. This is a poll from intelligent.com And it's about college students the headline is survey finds one in eight Perspective students refuse to attend florida public colleges due to de santis' education policies Now i'm going to read this Thing i'm just reading part of the results. I'm gonna read a kicker Survey results show that 91% of prospective college students disagree with the Santa's policies. Among this group, 27 percent say they are unlikely to attend a Florida State school and 57 percent say they... These numbers are actually quite high when you hear what the kicker is ...say they are likely to attend those

2:27:10 Of those unlikely to attend the state school, 49% say it's due to DeSantis' education policies. Oh really? Conversely the top-sided reason prospective students will attend a state school despite disagreeing with DeSantis are all the schools locations and school programs okay oh however 78 percent are concerned that this education uh policies will negatively impact their education now The kicker to all these polls is who took the poll? Yes, that would be good to know. You want to hear who took the poll? Yeah. Okay, 1,000 Florida students who disagree with DeSantis's educational policies completed the full survey Wow So you start off... yeah Does this remind you of anything 90% of all scientists Yep, climate change yep exactly. You take a group that hates DeSantis and poll them

2:28:10 they give you a negative result on DeSantis and then you make that the headline. This is bullcrap, this is a virtual lie! And it's meant to create division the American media model and I think you nailed it you can make a lot of money with this just like climate change...and there it is for the root of all evil here's a love of money now before we split I have one more lying clip which will really get your hackles up. Okay, you remember the 2020 Portland riots? Yes of course

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Portland Riots History, PBS Gaslighting, Political Violence

The hosts accuse PBS of "gaslighting" the public during a segment about political violence in Portland. The PBS report attributed the 2020 clashes to "right-wing extremists," which the hosts argue ignores the well-documented role of Antifa and Black Lives Matter during the George Floyd riots.

portland· pbs· antifa· george floyd· right-wing extremists· gaslighting

2:28:48 Well, let's just try to rewrite history as best we can on PBS. They have this new woman on there was kind of a multi-culti looking South Asian type I can't figure out what her ethnic background is but she's new and she takes part in all these and here she is discussing with another with the guest her book and you listen to this and tell me what's wrong with this report? And Adrian, in your piece titled New Anarchy you explore years of political violence. Some by militia groups in America and abroad and you focus heavily on violent clashes in Portland in 2020. You report that were instigated by right wing extremists. Do you think that those clashes in 2020 in Portland are a warning that they could potentially happen on a larger scale nationally?

2:29:41 I think that when you talk to people in Portland, you hear some who would say that what happened there was really unique to Portland and not necessarily replicable. But when you look at it sort of broadly the sense that right-wing extremists can find a city that may be left leaning or disproportionately represented by left leaning folks and go there and sort of draw them out into violence which is what happened in Portland certainly you could imagine that happening other blue cities surrounded by red exurbs. And so I think more than that, though it's less about replicating what happened in Portland and more just the sense that political violence is by pretty much every measure worsening in America and paying attention to sort of how that trend line is going and what we should be doing about it.

2:30:32 This was literally Black Lives Matter, Antifa. It was a George Floyd riot by Antifa? Yes! How is that right-wing... this is a lie! This is PBS gaslighting the American public At least the public that religiously watches PBS. This is gaslighting, this is bullcrap! I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could do with us Oh yeah that'd be fab Yeah on No Agenda In the morning

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Associate Executive Producers, Sir Herb Lamb, Boob Donations

Sir Herb Lamb returns with a $160.16 donation, while JD in Nashville contributes $150. The hosts acknowledge several "boob" donations ($80.08) and palindrome amounts. A donor from Iowa mentions the history of GeoCities, and a Canadian listener is promoted to Associate Executive Producer for their consistent support.

herb lamb· nashville· real estate karma· canada· palindromes· geocities

2:31:14 And with that we have a few people to thank. On that high note, everybody... Woo! JC the on fire! I like you on fire. Sir Herb Lamb starts us off and he's in Sugar Hill Georgia We haven't heard from him for awhile. Good to see him back. He actually makes an omni- I say what he says, he says, I've been overboard Oh no So he came in with 16016 which is two boobs Oh man. Man overboard! I'm glad you're back on board, brother. Yeah, I find it disappointing. Well, that happens. JD in Nashville Tennessee $150

2:31:54 He wants a de-douching. That too? Yeah, he wants that too! You've been de-douched. Sorry about that... We'll give him some jobs karma at the end. Sir Abundance of Caution came in with $150. Sir Abundance of Caution came in with one two three four five and he is in Maitland Florida once I will give him some real estate karma. His mom's health conner for his mom yep you bet. David Britton, Charleston South Carolina 115. Stephen Curry. Cole Glazier is his last name and Fernandina Beach

2:32:38 Florida 101 Dean Owen in car stares Alberta Canada 100. Dean Owen comes in again from Alberta, Canada with a hundred if that's true We're gonna bump him up to associate executive producer I think so If you can make a note sir hold my beer your buddy and Austin Texas $100 Douglas Murray the the guy we had earlier the British guy who does all these books Who's very concerned about? We need a pause need a pause I guess he's in Missoula, Montana and the 8338 which is boobs meet palindromes. Mmm You know 8008 is also boobs meat palindrome very good So you know very good but you got 33 in the middle sir Kevin McLaughlin Continuing his streak from Lucas North Carolina 8008 I want to meet that guy well He's a North Carolina. You probably go to one of the meetups

2:33:32 I guess. Seems like a cool guy to me. I don't know where Locust is, where it is in the map. Robert Ludwig in Nevada Iowa 8008 and its boob donation for his late wife's 51st birthday at 310 F cancer. Dame Chrissy X in Springfield Virginia 8008 She has some things to say about the newsletter and complimented you, just so you know. Thank you. Spencer Whitney is somewhere over in Baffin Island BC 8008. A lot of 8008s today. It's a strange location somewhere over at Baffin Island. Tom Timdow in San Jose California 8008. Terry Gary Blatt Wayne at Pennsylvania 7777 Dominic

2:34:23 Jakubowski in Lake Geneva, Wisconsin. 7770. Sir Selvarin in Silver Springs Maryland 77. Needs jobs karma gives you that at the end. Minister Cat a lot of people need karma today. Yeah minister cat Austin Texas you know him? Nope. He has never missed an episode. Austin 75 Jacob Quist in Wyoming Michigan 75 Greg Kohler in Evansville, Indiana 6502 Sir Andrew Walker in Pittsburgh Pennsylvania 6034 showed a birth James Jamie Buell in Vista California 6006 small boob answer quirky and Lulu Florida Boob this is 606 again another boob donation. This is the best he can do Oscar Fernandez and

2:35:21 Wageningen. Wageningen in the Netherlands. Loves this show, 60 bucks Peter Chong, Lakewood Washington 5510. James Fredericks in McFarland Wisconsin 5510. That's a survival podcast donation. Oh that's interesting. Gold is a good podcast. It is. Gummy Nerdz in Green Bay Wisconsin 5510 John Jolly in Yukon Oklahoma 5444 Andrew Edwards in Niceville, Niceville Florida $51 Bob Butler in Cumming Georgia $50 and 69 cents

2:35:59 Allen Huffman in Urbandale, Iowa. A GeoCities donation! Okay... $50 and 42 cents he mentions it was originally geo pages I forgot about that I guess there's still a site up. So, you know they're actually someone's backed that up and put it on the internet sure Jace Janice Oh, I'm sorry this is Dame night in Edmonds Washington I always remember that $50 and 15 cents Brandon Ellsbury in Deland Florida 5011 you rock ITM yeah man got it

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Sustaining Donors, Seronimous Apology, Value for Value

The hosts read a long list of $50 donors from across the U.S. and internationally, including a Dutchman living in the Philippines. Adam Curry issues a formal apology to long-time producer "Seronimous" for a numbering error in the previous show. They emphasize that these sustaining donations provide the financial base for the program.

sustaining donations· seronimous· philippines· texas· oklahoma· fundraising

2:36:36 Now, the following are $50 donors' name and location starting with Michael Elmore in Gastonia North Carolina. Greg Hartlaub in Cincinnati Ohio Richard Gardner in New York Sonny Pang in Lee Lancaster UK Aaron Weisgerber in Bend Oregon Kelsey Lavineo in Milwaukee Wisconsin Andrew Garland in Ocala, Florida. Zev Green in Teaneck New Jersey you know that sure Chris Goodman and Leander Texas Ray Howard in Kremlin Colorado Amy Zipkin and Greensboro Georgia Kim Winship in Rancho Santa Fe California Justin Kaler in Blufftown Bluffton Indiana David Steele in Mobile Alabama Jill Woods an Ocean Grove New Jersey Ryan Sharp in Huntsville Alabama

2:37:28 Herbert Hess in Spring, Texas. Brent Schicke in Lake Worth Florida. Kyle Mann and Cincinnati Ohio. Julie Minadeo in Costa Mesa. Brandon Locklear and Sugar Hill Georgia. Aaron Joyce in York Pennsylvania. Angela Pickering in Sour Lake Texas Holland Kilbourne in Lawrenceburg, Tennessee. Colleen Cahill in San Francisco, hey! Patrick Cannon in Cranford New Jersey Anonymous in Oklahoma City Andrew Watson in Fairhope Alabama Claudia D'Lemme in Herrocksville Quebec There's a better way of pronouncing it I know Marcus Benders

2:38:23 Cebu City, Philippines? Yeah. Dutchman living in the Philippines. Sir Mike in Georgetown, Texas and last on the list or last two is Stephen Crummey in El Cajon and The Manz in Parts Unknown. Thank you all for helping make this show a success! Today it was yes thank you all as well and they make good from saronimous of dog patching low I have to explain this okay So I make a point of always giving his numbers out right because he has these numbers, these codes we think. Which we don't know what they mean but they are clearly important!

2:39:04 And on the last one I said it was what was it? What does say 2450 2252, I think you said who knows what could have very bad about feel bad It's the first time in 15 years that I made that kind of blunder with a guy of The importance of seronimous so I've apologized. Yeah, of course Well did it's the first time and we will try to never make it again. Sorry about that John Let's see So that had that and And, well of course I want to thank everybody who supported including our executive and associate executive producers. And also people who came in under $50 these are sustaining donations they're very important because when like last show things are low at least we have a base We really appreciate that you can find more about that how you can participate how you can become a producer of any kind Devorak dot org slash N A M And then we have a couple of Karmas here

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Birthday Call-outs, Knighthood Ceremony, No Agenda Rings

The hosts celebrate several listener birthdays and perform a formal knighthood ceremony for three new knights and a dame. They describe the "No Agenda Rings" available at the round table and invite the new producers to join the community. The segment concludes with the traditional "Mutton and Mead" welcome.

birthdays· knighthood· cignet rings· mutton and mead· round table

2:40:00 You've got karma. And then jobs, karma? Jobs! Jobs! Jobs and jobs! Let's vote for jobs! You've got karma. And thank you all very much for supporting the NOAGENDER show It's your birthday, birthday. I'm so much happier... Amber says happy birthday to David M., celebrating two-day Dame Zelda wishes Sir Grumpy Old Boomer a happy birthday turns 69 today John Tom Jean-Jean 45 today Robert Ludwig wishes his late wife a happy birthday she would have been 51 today Sir Andrew Walker turns 34 today and Ryan

2:40:46 We'll be celebrating his birthday on April 1st. Happy Birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe! Sir Knight's DC wife up on stage here, Julianne Carpenter and Lyle Pote or Potay. All of you have supported the Noah Jenner Show one way or the other in the amount of $1,000 or more it's The Honor System we trust you implicitly and I'm very proud to pronounce the Kate B as Dame Bronk Rider of the Mountain Desert, Sir Bluejay of the Western Slop and Sir Lyle Knight of the Freedom Mountain. For you we've got Hookers & Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay, Wet Napkins and Small Rocks We got some other things like Beer & Blunts, Rubenesque Women & Rosé, Geishas & Sake, Bacca Manila, Bong Hits & Bourbon, Sparkling Cider & Escort, Ginger Ale & Gerbils We got Breast Milk & Pablum or of course the big favorite at the round table Mutton & Mead

2:41:46 All three of you, please go to noagendarings.com and anyone can check it out if you want to see what these handsome and beautiful rings look like They're Cignet Rings which means that you can totally hit people in the mouth with them It will leave a mark or you can use the enclosed wax to seal your important correspondence with And press it right in there and of course we have a certificate of authenticity Thank you again for supporting The No Agenda Show Welcome to The Roundtable! NO AGENDA MEETUPS All right, let's see what we got on the meetup list. These are producer-organized meetups this is where you need to go if you are serious about your community, communite, the No Agenda Gitmo Nation community You can actually just starting in an hour or so Go to Denver area April Fools Writers Room Meet Up that'll be today at Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver Colorado

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Global Meetup Calendar, April Fools Events, Community Connection

A comprehensive list of upcoming No Agenda meetups is read, including events in Denver, Toronto, Osaka, and Anchorage. Many are scheduled for April Fool's Day. The hosts stress that these producer-organized events are essential for building community connections and "protection."

meetups· denver· toronto· osaka· anchorage· cleveland· chicago

2:42:41 Tomorrow, the must-be high number nine! Seven o'clock at McSorley's Wonderful Saloon and Tavern in Toronto Ontario, Canada. What do you mean yeah? You're gonna be there? McSorley is the best Oh you've been there Also tomorrow the 2023 secret spy balloon symposium 7 o'clock at Cowboy Jack's in Bloomington Minnesota on Saturday April Fools but with no joke the OKC OUIOUI meetup not a joke April Fools day meet up 1 o'clock at Garage Moore in Moore Oklahoma We have the NA Fort Wayne Club 33 weekend dancers at one o'clock at Hall's Tavern and Coventry in Fort Wayne, Indiana. Indiana? The Hoosiers man they're off the hook! Also on Saturday Local 512 No Agenda No Fools Day Meetup 1 o'clock in Doc's Backyard Sunset Valley of course Baron Scott of the NA Armory will be

2:43:35 hosting that the Osaka Castle Cherry Blossom Blossom viewing and amygdala shrinking 133 Japan time, Osaka Castle Park. Osaka Japan at Sir Bill of Osaka That's actually a pretty good group and they've been around for over 10 years at least The tiny amygdalae of Anchorage. April Fool's Potluck, two o'clock Sir Lane's House, Anchorage Alaska Go to noagenetmeetups.com for details on the location The Northeast Ohio April Fools Day No Foolin Not A Joke Meetup three o'clock at Bottle House Brewery and Meadery in Cleveland Heights Ohio

2:44:11 And the long-awaited Southwest Chicago suburbs meet up six o'clock at Two Brothers Towel House in Aurora, Illinois. This is all Saturday April Fool's Day FEMA Region 4 Championships seven o'clock Central Buffalo Wings in Ridgeland Mississippi and we have the Sir Jeff Jeff Tohig, this is on Sunday show day. The In the Morning Not a Joke Meetup one o'clock at Urban 360 Pizza Albuquerque New Mexico go say hi to Jeff he's a great guy plenty more meetups if you can't make those throughout the month of April and it continues all the way goes all the way through next year basically you can find all these noagendameetups.com they are producer organized you have no idea how much you will have in common with people who look nothing like you act like nothing like you

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Technical Difficulties, Open Source Software, Show Mixes

John C. Dvorak describes a technical failure of his B-Link computer, which forced him to switch to a backup machine and adopt open-source software. This led to him using ODT files instead of proprietary formats. The hosts transition into the end-of-show music and producer-submitted mixes.

b-link computer· open source· odt file· passwords· show mix

2:44:56 It's incredible to witness one of these go ones. It's like potato chips, you will have to go again and again and it's connection to your community. Connection is protection. Noah Jenner Meetups dot com always like a party! It's like a party I got so wrapped up in everything today, i have exactly zero isos. I have none either! What? I thought you were gonna give me a default. I was counting on you Well look, you made a mistake what happened was my little B-Link computer blew up Oh really that doesn't happen often

2:45:49 Well, it wasn't the computer. It turns out luckily I had a backup whole computer so i just grabbed it from the other room but then I had to install all this stuff you know over and over that's why you've got an ODT file. I did notice the ODT file. Woo! Johnny going open source, love that. Love that. So I had to like... Oh God, I lost all my passwords luckily I figured out most of the passwords except for no agenda social so didn't go back on there and it was the hard little hard disk that's in it a little uh the hard this little uh the little solid-state drive their little bitty one

2:46:28 Wow. So I put it in the other machine, now it wouldn't boot. That doesn't happen often. Yeah that's annoying but the machine still works but now you've got to populate with a little hard disk or something Well I'm going back in the archives years ago Just do some needle drops we'll pick one Okay here we go needle drop 1 Needle drop 2 The powerful control of the mind No thats too long Needle drop 3 Kiss my face All right, and needle drop for Let's go in love you. Love you mean it? Love you. We haven't done that forever I love you mean it is we have not done that forever whoo Okay That is how about that that rarely happens yeah So we had one thing to mention I do have a clip for it which is that the this great Oh, I'm gonna be arrested Tuesday Scam that you tell us yes You know what's happened right

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Trump Grand Jury Delay, Monica Crowley, Treasury Department

The Manhattan grand jury investigating Donald Trump is taking a month-long break, delaying any potential indictment. The hosts also discuss Monica Crowley, a former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury. They clarify her professional background, noting she served in public affairs rather than as a direct financial policy maker.

donald trump· alvin bragg· manhattan grand jury· monica crowley· richard nixon

2:47:26 I know, honestly. Play the clip. Grand jury delayed a month. And the Manhattan grand jury examining former President Trump's alleged role in the hush money case is taking a month-long break Meanwhile, a judge has ordered Mike Pence to testify in the January 6 probe Manhattan grand jury investigating allegations by district attorney Alvin Bragg against former president Trump isn't expected to vote on an indictment for at least a month according to sources. The reason? A pre-planned months long break that was scheduled in January. Oh, okay well that's right... A storm in the glass of water as we say in the old country

2:48:09 Well, there's a couple of things that I'm going to save until Sunday. We do have some interesting news from Ukraine which we did not touch on at all today so we'll do that... We have well i'm gonna leave with this let me see where did I have this? Oh! Also Israel. I have some boots-on-the-ground information about Israel Which I think will be fun to... You had some boots on the ground about the situation in Tennessee, that I didn't hear. What do you mean? You said-you didn't say that it-you didn't read from a Boots on the Ground report No! My boots on the ground was this was real have two people, two friends who Oh okay oh right right okay That's what-I just was confused Yeah I think that was good enough

2:49:04 But this one, this is Monica Crowley who was a former assistant secretary of the Treasury. I'm not sure if that's an important job... No, I don't think that's true! Yes it is true. Monica Crowley? I thought Monica Crowley all she ever was the administrative assistant to Richard Nixon Let's take a look before we leave. I don't want to be wrong She's not she's not old enough Monica Crowley you maybe think if someone else or maybe there's different moniker crowley is nut she looks younger than she is Monica Elizabeth Crowley born 1968 so she's younger than I am

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Reserve Currency Status, Saudi Arabia, Digital Dollar

Monica Crowley's comments on the U.S. dollar's status as the world's reserve currency are analyzed. The hosts discuss the risks of Saudi Arabia trading oil in other currencies and the potential for a government-controlled digital dollar. They argue that such a shift would lead to a loss of individual economic freedom and total government surveillance of transactions.

reserve currency· saudi arabia· petrodollar· inflation· economic freedom

2:49:48 was the assistant secretary for public affairs for the US Department of the Treasury. So that is an assistant secretary, but public affairs... She's a PR woman? She's a PR lady! Well that makes sense because she was going on and on about the banking crisis and I thought you'd get a kick out of this Monica, the world's reserve currency said it's a privilege for the United States for the dollar to have been the world's currency what How does that relate to each individual American? How has that changed or impacted or improved our lives throughout the last several decades Yeah, I mean it's given the United States incredible dominance In the world in terms of the economic system and in terms of trade. It's kept prices down so whether its energy prices whether it's your food prices or

2:50:36 The entire global economic system is reliant on the safe and secure dollar. But that is no longer true, again because we've been printing money like crazy and devalued the power of the dollar in the value of the dollar but on top of it now again oil is the critical linchpin of this if Saudi Arabia decides to join with America's enemies here and start trading oil in different currencies that is going to undermine and If they were to do that and the United States already has a pilot program, that means the loss of your individual economic freedom because the government will have total access and control of everything you buy and sell. And the ability to turn it off like that. Oh man when I hear that now I know its never going to happen

2:51:44 She totally ruined it. I have to agree Totally ruined it and I thought she was a real like financial person, she's a PR lady. Ah, that's gypped again! Well she also has a radio- used to have a radio talk show Yeah And she's uh You mean like us? We have a radio talk show Kinda All right, everybody. I hope you enjoyed today's deconstruction of the news. I hope that your amygdala is properly sized Let's not go out and rage and don't fall into the outrage trap that the mainstream media Social and otherwise wants you to fall into it's just not worth a go outside Take a deep breath fresh. Yes exactly good idea get some fresh air have a glass of pinot

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Outro, Dvorak's Squeaky Chair, Rat Killing Song

The show concludes with sign-offs from Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak. The final audio includes a classic mix by Darren O'Neill titled "Dvorak's Chair Gently Squeaks" and a song about New York City's rat problem. They announce their return for the next Sunday broadcast.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· end of show mix· darren o'neill· matty j· new york city

2:52:32 Coming up next we've got on NoahJennerStream.com Hog Story with Carolyn Blanion and Sir John Fletcher Episode 345, that's gotta be a good one End of show mix we've got a nice Sir Michael Anthony produced by Matty J Joint And a classic from Darren O'Neill which is Dvorak's chair gently squeaks by popular request. Coming to you from the heart of Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region No. 6, In The Morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley, I am John C. Dvorak We return on Sunday with another show full of deconstruction Till then remember us at dvorak dot org slash N A Adios mofos and a hui hui and such Hey y'all, in the morning

2:53:25 I tune into here The best media deconstruction While the Vorex chair gently squeaks Stories of lies and of worldwide destruction While the Vorex chair gently squeaks

2:54:11 I don't know why nobody told him how to grease that thing. And I recall what Edwards told him, Now who controls him? I look at the world and i can't see it is burning While the borax chair gently squeaks

2:55:00 The media lies, but still no one is learning While the borax chair gently squeaks uh I don't know how you can ignore it Does he like that thing?

2:56:05 Can you imagine if there'd He'll start to horn it. He can make it sing! I look at the world and see the people are sleeping. Water for a chair gently squeaks No agenda is needed to keep the lies from creeping Still the Vorex chair gently squeaks

2:57:02 Still the vorax chair gently squeaks. Squeak! Squeak! Squeak! Oh my god, look at the lips of that sweet!

2:57:54 Yo, New York City This is your mayor We got too many rats. We got- we got too many I hate rats. I hate rats Everybody in the city knows I hate rats Who's that moving outside of my house? Looking just like a Times Square Mickey Mouse Rats in the garbage Rat on the train Rats on the street And rats in my brain The only good rat is a dead rat Ain't gonna stop until every rat gets whacked Payin' six figures for our new rats, I know it ain't no courtesy, why? Never gonna tell you who they are But I pay lots of money that I took from y'all Cause I'm the godfather of NYC Ordering hits on every rat I see Uh oh! Who's that bitch near my thugs Whackin all the rats and slappin little bugs There's nothing I hate

2:58:48 I hate more than rats Not even bio in crime I'ma kill every dirty rat Ghosts, it's rat killing time I hate rats. I hate rats Everybody in the city knows I hate rats For the rats and the doo-doo they be dropping on me I hate rats, I hate rats, I hate rats, I hate rats The best podcast in the universe Adios mofo Dvorak.org slash N A Love you mean it