Episode 1532 · Thursday, 23 February 2023

Bay Gin

A manufactured hero's journey in Ukraine meets the cold reality of a domestic economic crunch and the collapse of legacy media funding models.

By The No Agenda Show | 3h 10m listen | 52 chapters
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The No Agenda Show · No. 1532

About this episode

Joe Biden faces intense scrutiny following a high-profile visit to Kyiv as leaked audio and staged air raid sirens suggest a manufactured media narrative. While historian Douglas Brinkley draws parallels between Biden and JFK, critics point to a disconnect between official economic triumphalism and the reality of a 'broke' American public. The geopolitical stakes rise as Vladimir Putin suspends the New START treaty and warns of Western plunder in a massive Moscow rally.

Antony Blinken claims China is considering lethal aid for Russia, a charge Beijing denies while pointing to American arms shipments. In the Pacific, the Pentagon released a U-2 Dragon Lady selfie over a Chinese spy balloon as tensions escalate in the South China Sea. Meanwhile, Project Veritas enters a leadership crisis following the departure of James O'Keefe, and NPR announces massive layoffs as corporate sponsorship revenue collapses. The Supreme Court also weighs the future of the internet in Gonzalez v. Google, a case targeting Section 230 protections.

John C. Dvorak posits a controversial theory regarding the physiological side effects of vasectomies while the show celebrates the elevation of Dame Lady Bird to Baroness. Angela Davis discovers her Mayflower ancestry on PBS, and the UK grapples with a sudden national tomato shortage. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak break down the 'Value for Value' model as the only viable path for independent media in an era of platform instability.


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CHAPTER 01 / 52 Discussion

Joe Biden Economy Claims, "We're All Broke" Listener Feedback

A discussion regarding the disconnect between official economic reports and the lived experience of the audience. After noticing a decline in donation patterns following a newsletter blast, feedback from listeners consistently cited being "broke" despite claims from the Joe Biden administration that the economy is booming.

joe biden· paypal· economy· newsletter· financial struggle

00:00 Hey! We're all broke. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak It's Thursday February 23rd 2023 This is your award-winning Give Our Nation Media Assassination Episode 1532 This is no agenda Speaking in real time and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region Number 6 In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where I am not taking part in any sandwich eating thing I'm John C. Dvorak It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning. Sandwich eating thing, do tell So I'm watching Hoda and Jenna as I would do every morning Yeah of course on GMA part 3

00:46 And... With sad life you have, sir. Hoda was missing in action they had some guy from the show, there's some other guy whose name I can never recall and they were discussing the biggest thing going on on the internet right now is how to eat a sandwich this is how bad it has become this brings me back to the blogging days where people would blog yes I ate a cheese sandwich today and that would be their blog post Ah, this plays into something I wanted to talk with you about. How convenient! Well it would be convenient because you keep up with this stuff You're probably all in on the sandwich thing Yeah i'm all-in on the sandwich thing No, I'm gonna tie into your newsletter where you notice that the newsletter was not as effective as it used to be? I mean do you want to just briefly

01:36 summarize what you wrote? Yeah, I was bitching that generally speaking the PayPal donations that come in at the moment the newsletter sent out are increased by a certain percentage of the original number and this formula. And it has been not working recently for some reason and I got a lot of notes from everybody saying hey! The notes all had the same theme Hey, we're all broke and I'm thinking well gee Joe Biden says the economy's booming. Every note says we're all broke that's interesting yeah pretty much i think that's thematically the notes all said We are all broke! Something else is going on here

CHAPTER 02 / 52 Discussion

Internet Cesspool, John C. Dvorak 2021 Essay Revisited

A retrospective look at a May 2021 essay titled "The Death Of Expertise & The Rise Of The Internet." The text characterizes the modern internet as a "hopeless cesspool" of misinformation, predators, and hoaxes, arguing that linking global critical infrastructure like the electrical grid to the web is a significant historical mistake.

john c. dvorak· misinformation· electrical grid· internet safety· expertise

02:25 And you identified it and I put a link to this in the show notes. On May 25th of 2021, you wrote an essay titled The Death Of Expertise & The Rise Of The Internet So this was mid-pandemic And you penned this yourself and I shall just read the opening paragraph. I don't use pens, but go on! But go on thank You Cara, I will read it. Yeah there ya go! You're always doing it The modern internet has become a hopeless cesspool of lies, misinformation, mal-information bad intentions ignorant good intentions and half truths outright hoaxes slander cruelty as well as a refuge for creeps criminals thieves phonies agent provocateurs would be revolutionaries predators useless and fake reviews satanists and worse

03:22 Linking the entire globe of all the subsystems of corporate archives, personnel records medical information electrical grid interactions and more will turn out to be the dumbest thing humanity has ever done. This is one my favorite pieces from you And I think you're absolutely correct. Now, you go on to say that we should basically shut the internet down which i think... We could have a debate over that but there's something else going on that ties into this and I noticed it this week as I was watching some videos that someone sent me and let me see if I got this and it was yeah here it is

CHAPTER 03 / 52 Discussion

Deepfake Audio Risks, Podcast Playback Speed Dangers

An analysis of AI-generated deepfakes featuring Joe Rogan and Jordan Peterson discussing Peppa Pig. The segment warns that listeners who use "smart speed" or 1.5x/2x playback features are training their brains to accept choppy, artificial audio, making them unable to distinguish between real human speech and AI phonies.

joe rogan· jordan peterson· peppa pig· deepfake· smart speed

04:06 deep fake of Rogan and Peterson now just listen yeah, just listen to this because it's I mean I'm astounded about Just how good this really is all right Jordan. I've been hearing a lot about Peppa Pig lately What's all the fuss about this show well Joe? You know peppa pig It's not just a bloody kids show it has a lot of layers to it There's actually a political dimension to peppa pig that a lot of people overlook Wow, really? I never thought about that. What do you mean by political dimension? Well okay so this goes on and i think in general...I mean I can hear it pretty quickly that this is what we would call so-called deepfake but it went with video so that actually distracts from the trick because you know the mouths never really work the mouth are not there yet but I realized

04:54 that people who listen to podcasts in 1.5 or 2x speed, you really can't separate fact from fiction when you're doing that because in general you're now already used to particularly if use like overcast smart speed feature which chops out silences You're getting a choppy version, you're really training your brain to accept horribly faked audio as probably real and good because that's what you are listening too. And here is the thing I posted

05:32 Something just to kind of throw it out there to the effect of if you listen to podcasts at 1.5 or 2 point time speed You will not be able to detect that, you know AI Phony AI stuff in the future, you know, the choice is yours whatever You know, I saw you going back and forth on the No Agenda Social with this argument. And I never realized that you based it on the Peppa Pig fake. That's where it started! The amount of people who listen at high speed is astounding

06:11 And I think that you're a lot, what's happening here because I've asked many people why do you do that? Well I can do more in my day. I can read more substacks! I can listen to more podcasts If your amygdala is completely out of whack if you're doing this I believe that your nervous system is being hijacked It's very unhealthy. This is analogous to Hitler changing, you know the age from 432 to 440 whether that was true or not but when it when things are not in tune when they're not resonating because they're human. I think this is really bad for you and what i see happen, everyone is now

06:55 doing outrage podcasting. We got someone who responded to the newsletter said, how come you didn't start with Ohio? Why wasn't that your lead?! Well first of all we're not a news program we don't do leads and we don't have a meeting about what we're gonna do it's unscripted I don't know maybe 47 thousand people dead in Turkey is more important didn't start with that either but i see Tucker Carlson opening his show with 20 minutes on Don Lemon. You know, and it's like people are consuming so much and they get so riled up like, hey man Elon is going to save us Twitter files is the truth! Or Ron DeSantis he's gonna save us! Ron DeSantis all he's talking about his woke culture James O'Keefe will rise again No no this isn't... you've been high your nervous systems have been hijacked

07:55 When you find yourself yelling at podcasts agreeing that, yeah Joe Biden should be in Ohio. It's like sure but you've lost the overall plot of what's going on and they're winning! They are winning And I think, you know this dopamine hits. This is what podcasts are now and it goes from Megyn Kelly outrage outrage outrage she's still mad at Meghan Markle for some reason to the pool boy who will yell about this stuff incessantly so i just want to warn everybody that I think your out of resonance when your listening to podcasts at high speed and why?

08:39 Why are you doing this and if it's to cram in more no, don't drink from a fire hose like that Anyway, so it reminded me of that piece of yours from 2021. It's like yeah that's where we're at now! That was a good piece by the way. This is very good piece Now I'm not gonna disagree with anything you had to say and I think people should be listening...I think listening to podcasts in the background while you're doing something else which is what a lot of people do I think this is okay but But jamming it in at 1.5, because it's all three hours I don't have time for that. Well you don't... Podcasts are not television even though the best television is as some of the early producers in the 50s and 60s would talk about television as being casual so a good TV show sitcom or other when they were more popular this doesn't apply to dramas as much but to sitcoms where you can just come and go

CHAPTER 04 / 52 Discussion

Radio Show Video Feeds, Don Imus Legacy

A brief history of the trend of filming radio broadcasts for television or internet consumption. The practice is traced back to Don Imus and Howard Stern, though the utility of watching people wear headphones and speak into microphones is questioned.

don imus· howard stern· radio· video podcasting· broadcasting

09:39 You don't have to sit and watch the whole show. You can just watch bits and pieces of it while you do other things, was considered the way to do television back in the day. This is another point that I'd like to bring up. Why do you need to watch people with headphones on and microphones in front of their faces? That's okay...I think that's a different topic. But it's part of it! That makes no sense at all to me I want to see people's expressions. You can blame Howard Stern for that Was it though? Well, it was also that other guy the guy...the outrage... Outrage? Well which one pick them There were a lot of them but I'm talking about the outraged guy who went on and videoed his radio show Alex Jones

10:34 No, no. This is a pure radio guy famous. Imas? Imas yeah. Don Imus. Imas in the morning! I think Imas may have been the first guy maybe to do that. Yeah well all radio stations around the world do it now and but people are drawn to it I'm not quite sure why but anyway my point is I just don't think it's healthy because you are missing context. Forget that I think we're making art here, that's okay. Art! You know how I say would you jog past the Mona Lisa? Jog past the Mona Lisa and don't take a look at it but beside that is just not healthy and I worry for people who don't see what's happening and its like gene

CHAPTER 05 / 52 Discussion

Joe Biden Ukraine Visit, Fake Hot Mic Audio

Deconstruction of a viral "hot mic" clip allegedly capturing Joe Biden in Poland asking if the press "bought that bullshit." The audio is identified as a poorly executed fake, noting that the speech patterns do not match Biden's typical fatigued state following a major address.

joe biden· poland· ukraine· hot mic· deepfake

11:20 Sir, Gene man. He listened he recommends people listen to his own podcast in 1.5 speed this is crazy Let's do this hello now I'm talking to you and you hear me a normal speed stop it Okay Hopefully that'll come through the people Well, I think the overlooked point here because you've gone past it Is that if you listen at one point five speeds? You will never hear a deep fake No, exactly. You won't hear the deep fakes... So you can be buffaloed? And it's getting better! It really is this kind of... Here's an example of one because our president was in Ukraine la-dee-da so here this shows up

12:09 Biden hot mic in Poland. These three objects were most likely... So this is Biden answering some questions and then he walks away, and then the press are yelling at him and apparently he has a hot mic backstage. Loans tied to private companies studying weather or conducting other scientific research. Why have you sold it all? We need to present it to you Mr President! You think they bought any of that bullshit? Absolutely. Yeah, this guy has the money right now Let's get out of here If you could hear it but he said do you think they bought that bullshit and someone says yeah completely sir all right let's get out of here I mean you can't even hear it listening to it normally I think that's the way you have to do it What did that kind of hot mic stuff

12:55 But if you're gonna do a fake hot mic. Yeah, but it was bad It was a bad fake because I heard it away to say that's not Biden That's not the same Biden who just walked off stage No at the end of his speech Biden is not going to be that erudite He's gonna be tired Right You'd have to have a tired stumbling Biden or you'd have to have a hot Biden at the beginning yeah but If you listen to it at double speed then you're gonna miss it Oh God! That's great let me send this to Adam Let me post it on Telegram! And I've been catching, oh man. You know the Matt Lee clip? This is another problem we have which relates to your article. The Matt Lee clip of him berating Jake, I guess about... Jake or Ned or... They're all the same. NATO moving closer to Russia turns out that was from 2019

CHAPTER 06 / 52 Discussion

Misleading Viral Clips, Matt Lee NATO Video

A warning about the recirculation of old news clips presented as current events on social media. A specific instance involves a video of reporter Matt Lee questioning NATO expansion, which was widely shared as new despite originating in 2019.

matt lee· nato· russia· viral video· misinformation

13:53 I guess we'd miss that clip because if i hear a clip, I usually detect that we played it before. But the internet is a cesspool! And all I'm seeing now... Oh, so you found out it was from 2019? It must have been irksome. Very very irksome! Yes of course of course that happens. I didn't catch it either. I didn't know that there was an old clip. You know people should be careful like every once in a while I get an old clip from someone and say did you look at the date on that clip and then they get very embarrassed but Yeah, it's that's a huge problem. Well like apparently you know Biden fell up the stairs again leaving Poland and people were sending me the old clip of him falling off the same old clip yeah Anyway, well leave it did what I saw recently And I don't know what it was and nobody else seems to be able to identify someone who fell down from halfway down the stairs Now if that was at the back of the plane so must have been press as different

14:50 I'm just saying it because i love everybody and i see that you've been captured, and the more people i see who are yelling like yeah! Literally like Elon's gonna save us. Twitter files no No, no one's coming to save you. You know and we definitely have to talk about Project Veritas but I don't know if James O'Keefe is going to rise again and save all of you the only thing that can save you is you and your community probably best community you have is The NO Agenda Show go to a meetup Because all of the rest is just, it's really going downhill to the fact where it's hard to even get anything from our own media that is worthwhile. I'm not gonna clip something about how Fox News is trying to take down CNN! That's the lead story in prime time 20 minutes of Don Lamond okay very funny the first time you said it You know this is these are the stories?

15:52 These are the stories. The Don Ramon thing is getting a little old to be lead story So, you know it's like wow all right Enough complaining. It's only that was a good day That was a lot of complaining at the beginning. I want to look out for everybody. I love everybody and I'm kind of concerned about this, you know Blow me people listening it's not good for you. It's not harmonious if hijacks your nervous system when you do this with the podcast now Let's play us super cut away since you mentioned him You mentioned the pool man. I do, I find that the definitive clip of him in a nutshell Okay And also i think it's not a good idea for shows to be bashing other shows I agree with that but this is just Tim Pool in a nutshell ISO Hold on second Look under ISOs Oh yeah here we go Now im gonna burst your bubble everybody Yeah exactly

CHAPTER 07 / 52 Discussion

Media Coverage Hyperbole, Joe Biden Kyiv Visit

A supercut of mainstream media coverage praising Joe Biden's "bravery" and "swagger" during his visit to Kyiv. The segment highlights the use of air raid sirens during the visit, which were reportedly staged for dramatic effect as no actual threats were present at the time.

joe biden· kyiv· air raid sirens· media bias· swagger

16:52 Breaking that, breaking! Breaking!! I listened to one of his shows because he went on one topic for like an hour. Did he bust your bubble? He says that phrase at least once every 15 minutes. I'm gonna bust your bubble everybody! Here's a supercut of your media. When not talking about Don Lamon of CNN, here's how they talk about the very courageous president of the United States America Joe Biden has put solidarity ahead of his own personal safety Air raid sirens and no real guarantee of security As air raid sirens blared This was incredibly dramatic Andrea it was historic as well Historic

17:44 timely and brave. a day of this kind of presidential bravery in a war zone, you've got to go all the way back to 1864. With Biden's trip to Europe he is welcomed as not only frankly the savior of Ukraine but also the savior of Europe as a whole It is historic it's the first time that a US president has gone into an active war zone that the U.S military does not have control over

18:24 And against all odds, it was successful. The continuing threat quite literally sounding all around the two leaders. The skies here are not safe and in fact an air raid siren went off while President Biden was here. Seeing the American president there walking the streets of Kiev while air raid sirens literally sounded in that moment about possible incoming fire from Russia. The wail of an air raid siren. Air raid sirens wailing in the background seemingly undeterred by an air raid siren. Undeterred by the sound of air sirens President Biden's ability with his aviators on to walk through broad daylight in Keeve The swagger of this trip not just the execution, the secrecy but the swagger of it on display on the streets of Keave

19:11 Oh man, the swagger! The swagger of it. The guy can barely walk and by the way anybody who listens to any reasonable report on this said the air raid siren was fake Completely phony It hadn't been one for five days a minute he steps onto the streets They let it go off If this was Trump all you'd hear are the same A-holes that you just heard all talking about photo op Yeah, we went in there for a photo op with the phony siren. Exactly! And now it went even deeper very respectful people here on CNN Doug Brinkley what does it remind you of Doug? Who as our resident historian here placed this in the context and the pantheon of presidential visits Oh place this in the context of the pantheon of presidential visits The war zones presidents have visited Iraq and Afghanistan in recent years but those were US wars This is a Ukrainian War I love this

CHAPTER 08 / 52 Discussion

Presidential History Comparisons, FDR and JFK Parallels

Historian Douglas Brinkley compares Joe Biden's Ukraine trip to historic meetings between FDR and Churchill, as well as JFK's visit to Berlin. The comparison frames Ukraine as the "new Berlin" and a rallying point for Western allies.

douglas brinkley· fdr· jfk· churchill· volodymyr zelenskyy

20:04 Those are US wars, this is Ukrainian. We have nothing to do with this! There's no US soldiers involved anywhere No advisors, no one training...nothing So we're not in control of this area at all It's our weapons but we're not in control No US military presence on the ground How significant? It's extremely significant. The United States is wedded more to the Ukraine than ever before I go back to history and think of Roosevelt and Churchill... I love a guy who is a historian who says, THE Ukraine That always makes me feel like the guy is a good historian to the Ukraine than ever before. I go back to history and think of Roosevelt and Churchill when FDR had to sneak off in the dead of night, even had a body double at one point to first meet Winston Churchill off the coast of Newfoundland. And then he had all those World War II meetings.

20:58 Even I would say Newfoundland, but no new found land off the coast of Newfoundland And then of course he had all those World War two meetings between Churchill It's worth. I mean mentioning Churchill Kosolinsky has been called the church or our generation by going there today that I think it's gonna be a moment for the history books looks like when John F Kennedy went to Berlin and 1961 and gave a speech at the height of the Cold War. Ukraine is the new Berlin, it's the rallying point for NATO and they had Western allies And I think Biden did something really heroic It's the new Berlin! Take down that wall! There's gonna be something like... well actually

CHAPTER 09 / 52 Discussion

Vladimir Putin National Address, Western Plunder Claims

Vladimir Putin addresses the Russian nation, claiming that the Ukrainian people are in a "hostage situation" created by Western political and military occupiers. He argues that the West is using Ukraine as a "butthead" against Russia to plunder its natural riches.

vladimir putin· russia· ukraine· western elites· hostage situation

21:44 Putin, President Putin had a speech. He addressed the nation I guess he addressed his military and all the muckety-mucks. He does that several times a year and it was about hour and a half and there were couple of translated versions. I picked a clip from what i thought A lady who did just a great job on translating. I love her nuances. We want to create conflict situations at our borders, the same pattern all along in the whole 20th century it's to turn any form of action against Russia we are not waging war with

22:29 The Ukrainians, we know that they are in a hostage situation. They've been politically and militarily occupied by the Westerners and Ukrainian industry and natural riches were plundered And it's led to social degradation. And it is really not difficult to see why military actions have to be launched. It was all prepared. The idea was to turn them into war victims

23:19 And this, the responsibility of the Western elites, military elites have a lot of foreigners to the Ukrainian regime. They are not trying to support the interests of the Ukrainian people they are just using this as Butthead against us. They want to take it further, they have launched new offensives... Alright so this is kind of the story we know and I and it was interesting that Putin says well you know they're in a hostage situation! We have to go save them as if coordinated former President Trump clearly a puppet for Putin

CHAPTER 10 / 52 Discussion

Donald Trump World War III Warning, Deep State Criticism

Donald Trump releases a statement warning that World War III has never been closer. He calls for the removal of "warmongers" and "globalists" in the Pentagon and State Department, specifically naming Victoria Nuland as a primary driver of the conflict.

donald trump· victoria nuland· deep state· world war iii· nato

24:08 from his new Trump Club 47, always a marketing man that said this. World War III has never been closer than it is right now we need to clean house of all of the warmongers and America last globalists in the deep state, the Pentagon, the State Department and the National Security Industrial Complex One of the reasons I was the only president in generations who didn't start a war is that I was the only president who rejected the catastrophic advice of many of Washington's generals, bureaucrats and so-called diplomats. Who only know how to get us into conflict but they don't know how to get us out

24:52 For decades, we've had the very same people such as Victoria Nuland and many others just like her obsessed with pushing Ukraine toward NATO. Not to mention the State Department support for uprisings in Ukraine. These people have been seeking confrontation for a long time much like the case in Iraq And other parts of the world and now we're teetering on the brink of World War three and a lot of people don't see it But I see it, and I've been right about a lot of things they all say Trump's been right about everything none of this excuses in any way the outrageous and horrible invasion of Ukraine One year ago which would have never happened if I was your president not even a little chance so

CHAPTER 11 / 52 Discussion

Ukrainian Refugee Statistics, Russia Migration Data

A report from Deutsche Welle citing United Nations data on the displacement of over eight million Ukrainians. The data reveals that Russia has taken in the highest number of refugees (2.85 million), followed by Poland and Germany.

united nations· refugees· russia· poland· germany

25:44 Very interesting what he says there and let's take those two things together Deutsche Welle, because you know we have to go outside of our own borders to get any kind of media to deconstruct or that even worth playing Because it's about Don Laman. Deutsche Welle did a report on where most of the Ukrainians fled to Now this was eye-opening, because I think it's five or seven million people have fled Ukraine. We know that many of them have gone to Europe but let's really find out where most people fled from Ukraine and where they went to. The United Nations says that since the invasion last February more than eight million Ukrainians have left their homeland so where are they now? Let's take a look at the map it may surprise you

26:31 Top of the list, believe it or not Russia. It has taken in 2.85 million new grains. That's the number that have crossed the border since last February After Russia, Poland. It's a very supportive neighbor of Ukraine which we've reported on numerous times it has seen an influx of more than one and a half million Ukrainians in the past year And then right here in Germany more than 1 million Ukrainians have arrived here since the war began The capital Berlin where we are has registered more than 100 thousand Ukrainians Then there is the Czech Republic

27:08 Which has taken in, as you see right there 500 thousand Ukrainians. They've sought refuge there that is the equivalent of about 5% of that country's population These are big numbers big movements of people Yeah who would have known almost 3 million went to Russia because they hate Russia Well, you have to assume those are the Donbass people. There's a lot of them! Which are Russians basically and there is a lot of Russians in Ukraine and a lot of Ukrainians in Russia I'm a little unclear about where we're sending all these weapons

CHAPTER 12 / 52 Discussion

Eastern Front Artillery, Soviet Era Equipment

France 24 reports from the Ukrainian front lines where soldiers are using 1970s-era Soviet artillery. The segment questions why modern Western equipment is not reaching the front lines and suggests weapons may be diverted to other regions like Africa.

france 24· artillery· soviet union· ammunition· mercenaries

27:49 Oh, but some of them are probably going to Somalia via Ukraine and some of them are going to other parts of Africa via Ukraine. And I'm sure they... Who knows what's going on with the bullets? They're supposed to be this way where I was listening to one reporter, oh it's an artillery war! That's what it is, artillery wa- What's the need for all these bullets?! This is France 24, they're on The Eastern Front surprising report. We just found from the Eastern front line in this ongoing and intense conflict, and the situation there remains very difficult indeed. Our team was in the trenches alongside Ukrainian soldiers operating on artillery units their material dated from the 1970s... What? ...from Soviet Union How come they're using 1970 stuff didn't we say this is a frontline

28:41 Right? Yeah, the front line should have all our good stuff. How come we're 1970s style stuff and they say they are struggling to get enough ammunition for that They're worried about that as they head forward into spring and into the summer when they would hope to be going on the offensive at the moment there trying to hold the Ukrainian line in the face of waves and waves Russian soldiers, men advancing which they see with drone technology. So that push very much underway they say and they are firing thousands of shells every day to try and hold the line. None of this makes sense? No no well what you just said if you start to think about it there's only one real front line

29:28 Which is that where she was. Yeah, and so that's where all our stuff should be or where's our stuff as you said in Africa It's already moving down. I mean the mercenaries from what i understand are already moving down to Africa getting ready for the next confrontation. There is some action going to take place in Africa, thank you Joe Biden. That's right that's right Here's a couple clips from... You made this comment earlier you have to go out of the country to get any news pretty much all my clips today are from China Some podcasts and NHK a lot of NHK stuff. I hope we listen to him real fast! I do always listen at 1.75. Ooh nice, sexy. Sounds like- they all sound like Trini Lopez so...

CHAPTER 13 / 52 Discussion

China Lethal Aid Allegations, Antony Blinken Claims

Secretary of State Antony Blinken appears on Meet the Press to claim that China is considering providing "lethal assistance" to Russia. The segment criticizes the lack of evidence provided for these claims and notes China's rebuttal that the U.S. is the primary arms supplier to the conflict.

china· antony blinken· chuck todd· lethal aid· beijing

30:18 There's a reference nobody will get. I got it, i got it! Yeah you would get it, it's your job. I'm old. Ukraine China Kovetching NHK... China is deeply worried that the conflict could spiral out of control. Qin was speaking Tuesday in Beijing, this comes after Washington issued its own warning to Beijing US Secretary of State Antony Blinken on Saturday told China's top diplomat Wang Yi that he is concerned Beijing may provide lethal support to Russia

31:00 Beijing hit back by saying it's the US and not China that has been sending weapons to the battlefield in Ukraine. Yeah, this is now a narrative I'm hearing in the US media and Western media is, oh China! So now they're... And that's exactly how they do it. Oh China! By the way, this pronunciation of Bei-jin... Bei-jin is new for me I've never heard it before but that's what they're calling it. This reminds me of the Turkey-ay-yay-yee. Turkey-ay? Yeah, yeah. Turkey-ay! Let me uh... Go ahead Maybe we're gonna have to start calling it Beijing. Beijing?! I like Beijing! I left my chin in old Beijing

31:43 Here's meet the press with Chick-Chick Chuck Chuck Todd Gregory, with Antony Blinken bringing in the Chiners. This concern that China is considering lethal potential lethal aid in this war to Russia what evidence can you share with us that indicates your concern that they're going to escalate their help to Russia as you said they've been helping them rhetorically They've been helping them maybe by buying cheap oil but what is the other evidence that you have here? That they are thinking about doing more Well Chuck, China's trying to have it both ways. Publicly they present themselves... China is going to have it both ways! They're smoking hot these Chinese man! Well Chuck, China's trying to have it both ways. Publicly they present themselves as a country striving for peace in Ukraine but privately we've seen already over the past months

32:37 uh... the provision of non-lethal assistance that does go directly to uh... aiding and abetting russia's war effort and that um... indicates that they are strongly considering providing lethal assistance to to russia what a bullshit answer Well, they're strongly indicating it. Can you maybe explain how? This concern that China is considering lethal potential lethal aid in this war to Russia what evidence can you share with us? Is that the same clip I just played sounds the same. Is it? Hold on. That's the same one I just played a second 52 52 What's this one 50 52

33:21 This concern that publicly they present. It's the same clip, sorry about that! Anyway there you go it has no proof he's just saying it I know you know is there they're considering a put a lethal aid mark my words I'm Abe Lincoln but we're doing lethal aid yes yes now the United Nations They're there they don't want this United Nations is figuring out that the US I would have to say we are bad actors here And that we have effectively cut off Europe's supply of energy for Germany to create stuff and Big for their riches. Yes, we are Not us Germany was oh Yeah, well it depends on what we have to do

CHAPTER 14 / 52 Discussion

United Nations Resolution, Russian Withdrawal Demands

The United Nations drafts a resolution demanding the unconditional withdrawal of Russian forces from Ukraine. The segment notes that while the resolution passed, several countries including Belarus, North Korea, and Syria voted against it, while 35 others abstained.

united nations· russia· ukraine· sanctions· voting

34:19 is make it a little more difficult or at least get a piece of the action. Well, we didn't get a piece of the action... We blowed it all up and now The United Nations is trying to figure out how we can bring peace! It is also carefully formulated in general terms, aiming to garner as much support as possible. The text – drafted by Ukraine with help from allies – underscores the urgency to find a comprehensive just and lasting peace. It also demands a cessation of hostilities not a ceasefire and an unconditional and complete withdrawal of Russian forces from the territory of Ukraine within its internationally recognized borders

35:00 including the four regions unilaterally annexed by Russia last year. But it makes no direct reference to President Volodymyr Zelensky's ten-point peace plan presented at the G20 summit in November. The aim is to make it more difficult not to back the text. Two previous resolutions over the past year were adopted with an overwhelming majority, however Russia did find support from its friends and allies The first one in March, condemning Russia's invasion and demanding an immediate end to its military operations saw five countries voting against. Russia, Belarus, North Korea, Eritrea and Syria. 35 others abstained mostly in Asia and Africa

35:43 A second resolution adopted in the wake of Russia's illegal annexation of four regions in eastern Ukraine again saw five votes against and 35 abstentions. This time Eritrea abstained instead of voting no while Nicaragua joined the no camp once again, a majority of absentions came from Africa where many countries rely on Russian grain exports alongside China and India, two big buyers of Russian oil. Turkey meanwhile approved both resolutions this week 191 members are eligible to vote with Lebanon and Venezuela temporarily suspended due to arrears in the payment of their financial contributions I didn't know that if you didn't pay your dues you don't get to vote! I mean it sounds fair but... hello? That's kind of odd

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Poland Security Concerns, Israel Analogy

France 24 reports on Poland's desire for a U.S. security commitment similar to the relationship between the U.S. and Israel. The segment notes the historical tensions between Poland and Israel regarding World War II reparations and visa restrictions.

poland· nato· israel· investment· security guarantee

36:35 How much in arrears are they? Well, these votes are useless. Yeah but they're sending messages... People don't want it! They don't really want it. Friends24... You're getting so much... The reporting slanted or not at least their reporting kind of on instead of these hijacky clickbait headlines from the US media And this is France 24, you know as Biden is promising a lot now. He spent a lot of money being promised and I love this reporter's gaffe We just heard there from David that Joe Biden is now heading to Poland What do we expect from his trip there? A few things a little overlooked Poland is hoping that this visit from bow die and that Joe Biden will

37:26 She said Bojiden, thank you. Thank you. No agenda show creeping into her nervous system. Is hoping that this visit from Joe Biden will underline that the US is 100% behind Poland and that eastern flank of NATO because it really matters for investors in Poland who are starting to get cold feet about investing in Poland so we're gonna be rebuilding a straightforward the guaranteeing security for Ukraine after the war. Now NATO membership itself is of course much more complicated, the Polish have in mind something along the lines of the partnership between the US and Israel where there is a commitment to stand by Israel and so they're pushing that idea like in Israel that's an interesting analogy make it like Israel I thought that was like what?

38:40 It's funny that Poland suggests that because Poland and Israel are at odds. I would say some historical stuff, yeah. No they are! This is the reason you can't get a visa to back and forth in Poland. Well it used to be wide open you didn't need a visa but they've locked that down it has a lot to do with the Israeli lobby well just so pissed at Poland for World War two well if you'll remember everyone's all lovey-dovey right now with Poland but there were entire Senate meetings over sanctioning Poland because they hadn't apologized. Remember that? Vaguely, yeah let me see

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New START Treaty Suspension, Putin Rally

Russia suspends its participation in the New START nuclear arms control treaty. Following the announcement, Vladimir Putin held a massive rally in a Moscow stadium attended by an estimated 200,000 people to demonstrate national unity.

start treaty· nuclear arms· vladimir putin· moscow· nato

39:23 Before we get into that, let's play this one. This is another little aspect of the dimension of this war which is now the START Treaty so we're all going to start...this is good news for you guys who are building these expensive bombs. Start treaty then there's an interesting clip because it's NHK again and they go from one topic to another very seamlessly Russia's parliament approved the suspension of the remaining nuclear arms control treaty it had signed with United States Putin had announced on Tuesday Moscow was halting its participation in the New START treaty. It is Western nations that started the war, we are using our force to stop it. Western leaders rejected Putin's claim. Nobody is attacking Russia! Russia is the aggressor

40:14 Ukraine is the victim of aggression. Ukraine will never be a victory for Russia Our support for Ukraine will not waver Both sides are digging in their heels as the war continues and causes more and more casualties Putin spoke at a rally in Moscow, stayed in a Moscow stadium and called for national unity Russian media reports say about 200 thousand government supporters attended the rally I like the way they phrased that one. That's a good little deconstruction there So Putin did a Trump-like rally yeah in a stadium mm-hmm and he got 200,000 people to show up Yeah, they forced him at gunpoint obviously so they they make it sound they say they call it government supporters not

41:05 Putin supporters or just now that is a good phrasing isn't it Russians want to want to see the guy Because he's not you know normally. You don't see him that often But it was a Modi side Modi could get these kind of crowds. Oh, yeah, she remember outs Yeah when Trump visited Modi in India He said oh man I wish I could get crowds like this well well Putin can and he And they downplayed as government support just a bunch of people to give them the day off I guess and got to go this stadium. Now one of the countries in the EU that has, you know is trying to avoid getting wrapped up in all this is Hungary

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USAID Hungary Mission, Samantha Power Criticism

USAID Administrator Samantha Power visits Hungary to "strengthen democratic institutions" and "build independent media." The segment characterizes this as a precursor to a "color revolution" or regime change effort against the government of Viktor Orban.

samantha power· usaid· hungary· viktor orban· regime change

41:44 Hungary has been the very ugly stepchild of the EU, rejecting vaccine mandates, rejecting even the Pfizer contract of immigrants. Literally saying we want to keep our country with a with our Christian, or what do they say? Maybe their Christian values. I'm not quite sure exactly what the phrase is... something like that. It's about that yeah it's about yeah it's about uh they don't want Muslim immigrants you know certainly and would they say they're not immigrants if you if you want to immigrate into our country there's ways to do it just walking across the border you're not an immigrant you know the kind of stuff you might say about a sovereign country

42:23 Which is rare. Yes, and so the problem... they're a problem! And I want you to pay close attention slow it down to one time speed everybody You're gonna need to hear it in real time So you can hear the nuance of evil This is Samantha Power. As USAID administrator, I have the chance to travel all around the world to engage with people who are working every day to strengthen democratic institutions, to build independent media and to promote and protect human rights. I'm here in Hungary one of the countries in Central Europe where USAID has recently relaunched programming to tackle just these challenges

43:03 I'm gonna spend the next couple days engaging with Hungarians about their vision for a brighter future. Regime change incoming, color revolution. Oh USAID's gone in there? Is that what she said? She is now the administrator of USAID! Oh, that's the jackals that would be... Yes! And I love this. In the book Confessions of an Economic Hitman which new listeners don't know we went on we were pushing this book for a long time it's good to read The original, not until they got to him The second one is not as good. It talks about how this works and USAID is a big part of it Well, here's my favorite little snippet in here Travel all around the world to engage with people who are working every day to strengthen democratic institutions To build independent media That's the key right there US propaganda sources I hate to be so anti-US but holy crap we are dicks in this

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Russian Empire Restoration, Media Narrative Check

An investigation into the common media claim that Vladimir Putin intends to restore the Russian Empire. The segment notes a lack of direct quotes from Putin supporting this specific goal, suggesting it is an extrapolation by Western and Ukrainian officials.

vladimir putin· russian empire· soviet union· propaganda· media claims

44:06 Well, some of these people are the problem. It's not the US itself. Oh thank you that makes me feel better. These people... Those people! That woman specifically is a problem. That woman specifically and Noodleman is the other one. Oh man yeah and I went around looking because I keep hearing or keep reading well Putin wants to rebuild the Russian Empire And you go looking for a source and the only people who say this are Ukrainians. That's all I get, it's like when did Putin say he wants to rebuild the Russian Empire or the Soviet Empire? You always get back according to a Ukrainian official! Or an American official but if someone could send it to me I'd love to have it. I'd love to have a clip of anything even a written statement I'll accept

44:58 Putin saying he wants to restore the Russian Empire back to its imperial glory. As far as I can tell, that's just a lie! Surprise? It is an extrapolation of some things he said... He said you know it was a glory days or something he made some two references. He never said one It was good time extrapolate from there well if he said that then he means this That's our boys at work yeah, well our boys do good job But they should just propagandize other people stop doing it to us Yeah I do have something on this let me see

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NATO Eastern Flank, Kharkiv Missile Strikes

Joe Biden meets with the "Bucharest Nine" to reassure NATO's easternmost members of U.S. support. Meanwhile, Russian missiles strike Kharkiv, and Russia conducts joint military drills with China off the coast of South Africa.

joe biden· nato· kharkiv· south africa· military drills

45:38 on the START treaty from, actually let's just play these two clips here we have this is a CBS Evening News Ed O'Keefe Biden reassuring NATO President Biden today sought to assure the easternmost members of NATO that the US would stand with them in the event of a Russian invasion. You're the front lines of our collective defense and you know better than anyone what's at stake in this conflict not just for Ukraine, but for the freedom of democracies throughout Europe and around the world. The meeting capped a trip that began in dramatic fashion in Kiev, designed to reiterate American support for Ukraine But it ended as barrage Russian missiles hit the northeastern city of Kharkiv. The war raging on

46:25 In Moscow, President Vladimir Putin rallied a large flag-waving crowd praising the courageous Russian soldiers making no mention of mounting casualties. Why didn't he say government workers? Putin also held talks with China's top envoy Wang Yi. US officials voiced concern this week the Chinese could supply lethal military aid to the Russian army We've made very clear to them that would cause a serious problem for us Both countries... This thing is sweetened beautifully I mean you don't need to see video with this report Very clear to them that would cause a serious problem for us Both countries flexed their military might today in drills off of South African coast

47:06 I can't even understand what he said on that report. That was Biden. Big mistake, oh big mistake well there's a continuation about the START treaty that arms treaty caps the number of nuclear warheads the US and Russia can have and allows for mutual inspection of each others programs but inspections were stopped during the pandemic so suspending them further would mean the U.S. would know even less about Russia's nuclear capabilities and intentions. And intentions! And intentions why don't they go re-sight it we're the ones who cut the deal off

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Eurojust War Crimes Prosecution, Lisbon Treaty Protocols

European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen announces an International Center for the Prosecution of the Crime of Aggression in The Hague. The segment links this to Lisbon Treaty protocols regarding the expansion of EU police powers.

ursula von der leyen· eurojust· war crimes· the hague· lisbon treaty

47:49 Wasn't him wasn't Putin and it was suspended not not done. Not you know, not ended It's a span I'm talking to putin until he gets out of Ukraine. That's right. That's right Well, all right. Well, I don't have any more on your credit The only thing I have is one of our Dutch producers young villain He did a pretty good breakdown of euro just The Euro just, this is what Queen Ursula has put together to I guess to convict Putin. And it's really just a desk somewhere within the joint investigation team. But, you know... A statement here from Ursula Russia must be held accountable in courts for its odious crimes Prosecutors from Ukraine and the European Union are already working together We are collecting evidence as a first step I am pleased to announce that an International Center for the prosecution of the crime of aggression which is new Which also is ICPC

48:52 Okay, so it's a new thing we can sign on to. The crime of aggression? Yes the International Center for the Prosecution of the Crime of Aggression. Do you think shock and awe during the Bush administration may qualify? Well you can't do that after the fact! Well yeah you can, they can. They've been promising to do it after the fact This will be set up in The Hague of course The center will coordinate the collection of evidence It will be embedded into a joint investigation team which is supported by our agency Eurojust Which is the new EU police force. Come on people

49:29 We'll be ready to launch work very rapidly with Eurojust, with Ukraine with the partners of our joint investigation team as well as the Netherlands. Yes The perpetrator must be held accountable And through all this this is almost like a Dutch or an EU Patriot Act You're gonna get police secret police you know because you are caught for crimes of aggression They come after anybody It's also obvious In my mind. Well, they've been working on this for a long time Yeah Remember the health rules are gonna get where they could shoot you if you refuse to get a vaccination or something? What is some law that were going to pass No no it was in the protocols of the Lisbon Treaty and its two separate things one as you can be arrested If you have a communicable disease

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Ukrainian Refugee Impact, Croatia Rental Market

A report from a producer in Croatia describes how the influx of Ukrainian refugees has doubled rental prices in Zagreb. The segment also mentions the impact of the refugee crisis on social apps like Tinder in the region.

croatia· refugees· rent prices· zagreb· tinder

50:21 Anywhere in the EU and the second if you are running away from law enforcement, and they shoot you in the back It's legal. It's a legal kill right that was it yes Running that's not good got a note from one of our producers about some of the influx of Ukrainian refugees our producer lives in Croatia Ukrainians increased rental prices in Zagreb to about twice what they were. Here's how it works, they post an ad on Facebook quote women with two kids looking for an apartment in Zagreb 2 bedrooms 800 euros next day all two-bedroom apartments are eight hundred euros and more which is about the amount of money that the state is giving to these refugees eight hundred euros

51:11 So now, you know the rent is doubled everywhere because of this...of what how this has been handled. He says Tinder is also flooded which I'm not quite sure what he meant by that. What did he say? Tinder is also flooded. Oh, Tinder! It's Ukrainian women and what do you expect?! Exactly, I think that's what he's alluding to That's what he's implying but he just wouldn't say it No but this is a disaster Well, kind of on the same line of thinking. Let's play this clip. This is from NHK too. This is Russia-China becoming pals. Diplomatic movements are heating up ahead of the first anniversary of Russia's invasion of Ukraine Russian President Vladimir Putin held talks with... Is this Ben Shapiro side gig? Side hustle? This is great! This is Shapiro! Slow down! No?!

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Russia-China Strategic Partnership, Historical Context

Vladimir Putin meets with Chinese diplomat Wang Yi to discuss a strategic partnership and a planned visit by Xi Jinping. The segment provides historical context on the Russia-China relationship, noting long-standing cultural distrust despite current economic cooperation.

vladimir putin· wang yi· xi jinping· nixon· kissinger

52:04 I'm gonna have to listen with every...I know who this guy is and i've seen him. Close your eyes, close your eyes. I don't think of anybody else but now that you mentioned it's possible he's Shapiro. Close your eyes and hear Ben Shapiro. Diplomatic movements are heating up ahead of the first anniversary of Russia's invasion of Ukraine Russian President Vladimir Putin held talks Wednesday with China's top diplomat Wang Yi. Everything is moving forward, developing and we are reaching new milestones. Putin said he expects trade between their countries to reach 200 billion dollars by 2024 He also said he's waiting for Chinese President Xi Jinping to visit Moscow for a summit as planned Wang replied relations between their nations are mature resilient and stable

52:59 We would like to emphasize once again that the comprehensive strategic partnership between Russia and China has never been directed against a third party, and is certainly not subjected to interference and provocation by any third party. So what does this all mean? Well I'm... you know i was thinking about this. Russia and China have been butt up against each other forever Yeah, they share a border. They share a huge border and the Russians were attacked by the Mongols back in the day and there's always been these disputes and there has always been this fear during the Nixon-Kissinger thing where they reopened China thank you for that! There was always this fear that their communists... Hey, you got a cheap mic because of that okay? So be thankful

53:51 This is the American mic, the PR40's built in the United States by Hyatt. You have a cheap Chinese cradle? I do have a cheap Chinese cradle and it works great. Okay And you should be thankful too because you don't hear me banging that thing all the time Well you said thanks for that! Oh you were sincere...I'm sorry And so, yes I was sincere. It's a nice product and it is cheap! Very cheap. It's like everything else...it'll break. Best price? No it will break. The problem is like all this stuff it will break So when Nixon and Kissinger put this thing together there was this fear that because of the common

54:34 the commonality of communism, that Russia and China would join up forces and be the dominant factor in the world. But their history goes back... If these guys were ever going to get along they would have got along by now! China and Russia there's something about those two cultures It's just obvious that they don't really, you know a lot of people don't like different kinds of people for whatever reason. But these two they don't like each other at some base level and yeah they'll trade and you can run a train through the country if you want but there is something wrong with that relationship and Russia really wants to be more European but we won't let them! No no because how handy

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Nord Stream Sabotage, North Korean Defector Media

Russia calls for a UN investigation into the Nord Stream pipeline sabotage. Additionally, the segment discusses the timing of a North Korean defector's media appearance on Megyn Kelly's show, suggesting it serves as anti-China propaganda.

nord stream· seymour hersh· megyn kelly· north korea· propaganda

55:22 is this right now? We use Russia to get the Green Deal, that's what it's called in Europe. To push the hydrogen economy, to make China look bad... They are told they are the perfect foil and I am amazed quite frankly considering the international terrorism terrorist act of sabotage on their pipelines At the restraint Russia has shown. Yeah, they had to know what happened Well there now they've now called the UN Security Committee and said hey we want an investigation council counsel Thank you one investigation on this We want to know what happened

56:09 good luck with that. Yeah well it's not gonna go but at least they're making a fuss, yeah the Russians and the Chinese so I think that we've already planned for the fact that the Russians and the Chinese... We must our top guys have to know this that the Russians in the Chinese aren't yeah there were you know Chinese don't even want to give them bullets I mean they get do we heard that are getting some armaments and bullets from North Korea? The Russians! Oh and and i think that probably Part of the game is hey tell Kim Jong-un to shoot some shit over there Yeah, it could be of course Of course what else all of a sudden this happens. It was interesting Megyn Kelly Because Tina listens to Megyn Kelly and she said no it's just woman on who's from North Korea And it was horrible you know with her story and she was trafficked to China

57:05 And I said, you know this may all be... when did this happen? Like 15 years ago when she was 12 or whatever. I said the story may be true in fact a lot of it's likely very true but the reason that it's been pushed now there are reasons for this She has a book out okay so why all of a sudden is a book about horrible life and North Korea coming out isn't that directly related to China bad? Isn't this all part of this information war that's taking place Which brings me to a slew of clips. Hey now! I set you up perfectly Let's listen to these clips. This is Japan and China, this is by the way what's going on in Asia which nobody's paying any attention to over here but there are all kinds of action In fact I got a...I put together a VPN lash up so that I could get TV New Zealand A VPN Lash Up? Is this like a Rube Goldberg machine you go from one VPN through second one Well when I tried to get to New Zealand TV they were real strict about who can look at their television

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Japan-China Security Talks, Spy Balloon Tensions

Top officials from Japan and China hold their first security talks in four years. Discussions focus on tensions over Taiwan and Japanese suspicions regarding Chinese spy balloons entering their airspace.

japan· china· taiwan· spy balloons· espionage

58:11 And so I wormed my way in with a VPN lash-up. They had a real bad storm there Yes, that was a Gabriel. I thought they have a clip on that if you wanted to skip around but no let's play this Japan and China news one top officials from Japan in China Say their countries need to work together to tackle some difficult issues these were the first security talks in four years and came amid growing tensions over Taiwan and accusations of espionage the senior foreign affairs and defense officials showed signs of disagreement locking horns on several key issues

58:46 Yamada Shigeo broached the topic of spy balloons. The senior deputy minister for foreign affairs says Japan strongly suspects China flew them within its airspace China has shown the spotlight on Japan's recent moves to boost defensive capabilities, which Beijing casts as a military build-up. To be honest, China has serious concerns over Japan's release of its new defense and security documents, its collusion with foreign forces and the negative move such as its involvement in the Taiwan issue." Still, the two agree on the need to keep an open dialogue to avoid any unintended escalation and decided to create a new hotline. There is a common understanding between the two countries' leaders of the need to build constructive and stable Japan-China relations You could have labeled this section of the show as Hot Asian Action!

59:45 Japan and China news part 2. China's vice minister also met with Japanese foreign minister Hayashi Yoshimasa during his visit to Tokyo. Hayashi likewise emphasized the need to allow both sides the air concerns and work through disputes The trip was also an opportunity for China to remind Tokyo of its importance as Japan moves to strengthen ties with Beijing's rival, the United States. Well the United States, and now we have this clip which is USA. It's Beijing. What? Beijing it's not Beijing it's Beijing we all know this. They gotta get together over there Yes the Philippines that's kind of a problem that we've moved in there I would presume

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South China Sea Laser Incident, Philippines Defense

The U.S. reaffirms its defense commitment to the Philippines after a Chinese ship allegedly directed a military-grade laser at a Philippine vessel. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin discussed joint patrols to ensure a "free and open Indo-Pacific."

philippines· lloyd austin· south china sea· laser· military grade

1:00:29 Well, here we go. The United States has reaffirmed its commitment to the defense of the Philippines It follows a flare-up of tensions in the South China Sea after Manila accused the Chinese ship of pointing a laser at one of its ships US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin spoke with his Philippine counterpart Carlito Galvez by phone Was it a laser pointer like one of those deals? Like oh directed energy weapon from space no Austin said an attack on a Philippine vessel anywhere in the South China Sea would invoke the US mutual defense commitment under a treaty between their countries. The Philippine Coast Guard says, A Chinese government ship directed a military-grade laser at its patrol vessel earlier this month near the Spratly Islands Beijing claims the ship did not direct lasers at the crew or cause any damage

1:01:22 It says the Chinese ship was compelled to respond because the Philippine vessel entered Chinese waters without permission. Austin agreed with Galvez, the incident took place inside the Philippines' exclusive economic zone They discuss joint patrols in the South China Sea and further cooperation with like-minded nations like Japan that want a free and open Indo Pacific. Manila aims to expand its security cooperation with other countries as well, it's mulling joint patrols with Australia in the South China Sea I get a real strong Gulf of Tonkin vibe from what is going on here There something going on that gets active and it's real active and listen here I'll just play two more clips

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Taiwan Officials Visit Virginia, Pentagon Diplomacy

Senior Taiwanese officials, including Foreign Minister Joseph Wu, make a rare visit to the U.S. Capital Region for meetings in Virginia. The talks with Deputy Secretary of State Wendy Sherman occurred amid heightened tensions with Beijing.

taiwan· wendy sherman· virginia· pentagon· joseph wu

1:02:02 This is USA Taiwan meetings. Now senior officials from Taiwan... This guy's working on my nerves though Yeah, okay we're gonna go leave him No no We'll be good to someone worse Let's play him first it's only 50 seconds I can handle it Now senior officials from Taiwan have made a rare visit to the US capital region apparently the latest in this series of... U.S. Capital Region? Does he mean Washington? He met in Virginia, I think. Was that Washington DC or something? Diplomatic exchanges these sorts of talks have frustrated Beijing at a time when its Washington relations remain fraught. Here are Taiwan's Foreign Minister Joseph Wu and National Security Council Secretary General Wellington Ku. Each is entering the Virginia office of the American Institute in Taiwan around the same time US Deputy Secretary of State Wendy Sherman and other senior officials were spotted

1:02:52 Taiwan media say for about seven hours the officials discussed diplomacy and security. It comes days after sources told US media the Pentagon's top China official went to Taiwan The U.S. and Taiwan have not had formal diplomatic ties for decades, and neither has confirmed any official meetings You know what I appreciate? Yeah this was not a meeting No, but what I appreciate about NHK and they may also be based in Washington DC for all i know. They might be but these reports are out of Japan. When you listen to Deutsche Welle and France 24 it's like you got Brits on France 24 You've got Americans on Deutsche Welle Like...I want to hear Deutsch accents on Deutsche Welle And Franz accents on Franz 24 And TRT! I wanna hear some Turquier accents

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Pacific Islands Forum, Kiribati and China Relations

Leaders of the Pacific Islands Forum meet in Fiji to discuss regional security and the return of Kiribati to the group. The meeting aims to address Kiribati's close relations with China and the impact of climate change on the islands.

fiji· kiribati· china· pacific islands· climate change

1:03:44 I know what you mean. It kind of annoys me, it's like are you all spooks? Especially France 24 where they pride themselves with bringing British accented... Yeah spooks! Good English speakers. Yeah spooks there's got to be spooks Oh it's totally spooks well let's listen to this this is the last China thing now this is a baffling clip because I can't understand a word they say cuz this one of my clips from New Zealand TVNZ channel 1 And it's like about the Chinese and all this island hopping. They're trying to take over a bunch of islands, and they're... This is like on... This is story that hard to tell. 60 Minutes Australia has probably done the best job of revealing much at what's going on there. We don't even know what we're just I don't know what... We are in dark! We are in dark so why am I playing here? Baffling clip

1:04:36 Oh, top. Members of the Pacific Islands Forum are meeting in Fiji this week for a much needed special retreat. Tensions are running high as security in the region becomes more fragile with a number of nations including Kiribati forming close relations with China. Kiribati has returned to the forum table this year bringing renewed hope leaders will be able to patch up their differences It was all sort of sorted out and Kiribati has come back to this meeting. So, this meeting is to really make sure that Kiribati does stay within the forum family for security reasons and as well as they really need to be at the table when discussing big regional issues Climate change will also be high on the agenda with many Pacific countries already experiencing destruction due to extreme weather events Huh?

1:05:27 Yeah, events. Very odd. I'm telling you...I'm gonna try to get some more clips from this New Zealand operation because their accent is hard to hear. Yes! I would say it is. They have a lot of idiosyncratic ways of pretending...Australians are You know the shrimp on the barbie you can kind of follow what they have to say but these new sealers and they do call themselves Kiwis. Yeah, yeah Are very difficult to understand I did okay there until they pulled the rug and took me to climate change Did he jump the car? I guess that did you see and this this is one of those baffling things just going back to China

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U-2 Dragon Lady, Chinese Balloon Selfie

The Pentagon releases a selfie taken by a U-2 Dragon Lady pilot flying above the Chinese spy balloon. The segment questions why the 1950s-era U-2 aircraft is still in service for high-altitude surveillance missions.

u-2 dragon lady· spy balloon· pentagon· surveillance· high altitude

1:06:13 the aerospace intelligence Twitter account SpaceOSint, whatever that is posts a selfie of one of our... of the U-2 Dragon Lady pilot I don't know if that means the U-2 is titled The Dragon Lady and it's the pilot or if the lady uh..if the pilot is a dragon lady. I dunno circling above the Chinese spy balloon Yes, you...the NHK website had a lot of photos of it. Very confusing to me I mean first of all why are you shooting a selfie on your phone when you're actually in a high-tech sophisticated surveillance aircraft that has the best cameras? How insulting to give us a selfie! And i want to ask some of our experts out there, why are we still flying the U2

1:07:12 And where would I thought this SR 70 was was benched the XR 71 or whatever it was. Yeah, this is 70 I think it's a 70. And but the U-2 is an old predated plane that's a plane from those 50s, i think but it's a high altitude plane and I think it's still in service but why is this still on service? Then I understand there's a third plane that nobody's talking about that's really the plane they're flying which is some... So this was seventy thousand feet and this balloon was at sixty thousand feet yeah very interesting sounds right

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Project Veritas Leadership Crisis, James O'Keefe Ouster

An in-depth look at the internal conflict at Project Veritas following the release of a video by James O'Keefe. The segment includes exclusive updates from a producer serving as the organization's executive director, who disputes claims that O'Keefe was formally fired or resigned.

project veritas· james o'keefe· pfizer· non-profit· board of directors

1:07:49 None of it sounds right to me. I'll be honest, you know what? I mean the numbers sound right doesn't but you know when you listen to these clips When you look at the whole world of selfies and tweets And I mean aren't we just living selfie this something's wrong with that Aren't we just living in The Matrix already? I mean you could just believe whatever you want to believe because you'll find something that's true for you You know, I don't know what Zuckerberg is building We don't need the glasses mark It's already here. Okay Like project Veritas, I want to talk about Project Veritas for a moment. All right you I have nothing on this well some thoughts and I've gotten letters and yes Well also but so we saw the I think everyone saw the James O'Keefe video which was done on Monday President's Day So no one was at the office except there were some people at the office And he was gathering his things and from there on out it was like okay He has

1:08:47 he has resigned. And then there's all kinds of documents and the board comes out with a memo saying that he was cruel to employees, and that you know there's a question of misappropriating donor funds... $17,000 for charter jet? What is this a 30 minute flight?! What kind of chartered jet can you get for $17,000? You're not going very far. Are these shared? I'm sorry? Shared No no this just you're not getting very far for that kind of money. No but if it's share with 10 other people

1:09:28 No, then he paid and then he overpaid. You know $150,000 in black cars which I presume is Uber X or something? And the whole thing was just really like what everything's very very weird and I've done a dive into some things including their 2021 Form 990 filing which...and 2020 and 2019 and I've learned a few things and there are some things coming out maybe we can make some sense of what's happening First of all, I wanted to mention that James O'Keefe says several times in his video that nothing had changed with the way Project Veritas was doing business until they did the big Pfizer takedown. Which... let's just stop for a second we have watched

1:10:20 Veritas, Project Veritas and what they've done since really since the days of Acorn which is you know when it was really just O'Keefe getting undercover video himself during Obama's days. Yep And I would say we have used very little of their material because it was patently unusable for audio usable and we were actually quite happy when we could assist and help them get their audio Cleaned up we suggested a couple people they could use and once we stepped into the picture all hell broke loose exactly None to do with Pfizer no Once John I started helping to advise the executive It went to shit curry and Devorah consulting group broke it now So the first thing is we have to go back to our our own producer are barren. I believe and

1:11:12 who became the executive director of Veritas just six weeks ago maybe. By itself interesting that that happened And he's an ex-Wall Street guy, but hadn't been in Wall Street for several years from what I understand. And he is being excoriated on No Agenda Social by five or six people? And I think rightly so because... Blaming him, I don't know. Well no because his note was very clear the board loves James it's gonna be okay He's not been fired and then you know James O'Keefe again I see people who I love and respect Going off the deep end, maybe they listened to James O'Keefe in two times speed saying, O'Keefe brought the receipts! No he actually didn't bring any receipts. He just told us what he believed was going on and what he felt and his side of the story so I did follow receive a follow-up email this morning from our producer who is the executive director of both of the nonprofits

1:12:09 And I'm going to share it with him, with you what he wrote because we've been sharing all of his stuff so he didn't say don't share this. We're going to get more. ITM? I've been on the phone non-stop outside of some... He had a family tragedy on Monday which very sorry for. He says that was the worst day of my life! I'll try to get you a better update for Sunday. My brain is mush! Our journalists and the rest of the team are dedicated to getting stories while The Board and James work things out again, he's not fired, not ousted, not removed did not resign Many of the things that were said in that video are not true I was not there as it was a holiday and HQ was closed so i worked from my home office I kind of wish I could have been there because I could have interjected the truth a few times more to come

1:12:57 Okay, so he is doubling down on what he told us. That's an interesting development as far as I'm concerned So here's what I've learned... It definitely extends the story it does So I've looked through all the leaked memos and you know, and all the different things and read everything that the board had to say. But it was really the 990 that interested me the most And i've become quite an expert at reading form 990s throughout the course of 15 years or more doing this show Uh, I learned a lot about it from uh The Keeper who used to work exclusively in the non-profit arena as a chief communications officer so she understands A lot of how this works and how it functions In the 990's you can glean a lot mainly

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Project Veritas Financials, Form 990 Analysis

An analysis of Project Veritas's tax filings, showing a spike in revenue to $23 million in 2020. The discussion covers allegations of financial mismanagement, including chartered jets and black car services, and the high cost of legal fees for undercover journalism.

project veritas· irs· form 990· donor funds· legal fees

1:13:41 The top line thing that's interesting is how much money did they bring in and what did it go towards? These are the things that are always interesting. And of course, one of the reasons Well, when you have a non-profit you have a lot of reporting responsibility. You have to stay within certain guidelines legally to remain an tax exempt nonprofit so there's unless someone is really faking numbers and lying then I'm going to take this as true because it was filed with the IRS and more on the IRS in a moment. So what is very interesting is James O'Keefe talks about specifically that plane trip which the board or according to the board letter, which...and our executive director is not a member of the board this very important understand there are there were three board members on the 50C3 and I think two on the C4

1:14:37 But the and O'Keefe being one of the three board members of the 50C3, so it's really two people. There is this one guy who may have been early donor big petrol guy and then Matthew Tiermand whose LinkedIn is like Ministry of Silly Walks, you know. So this guy is suspect to me I'm not quite sure...I mean you can delve deep into his history but whatever's going on they accused O'Keefe using the plane to fix his boat and O'Keefe said very clearly I had three donor meetings in three different cities in one day! I'm gonna believe that

1:15:17 Because when you're raising 20 million dollars a year for Project Veritas, as he said I'm on the road 300 days a year Raising money to keep you guys paid. He said that in his video Looking at all the projects that Veritas has done and we've followed most of them. I would say 90% Even some of the COVID stuff was all politically oriented It was, you know... certainly it would be a wealthy right-wing conservative donor who would appreciate the work that Veritas does because it makes the left usually left leaning media left leaning politicians look stupid and exposes them for what they're doing. Go all the way back to Acorn which was a valid hit on President Obama so

1:16:17 When you're doing this, you're raising money not just from people and a lot of people I may have supported Project Veritas at one time like oh here's 20 bucks. Yeah great good job! I love that you're doing this But to see a spike in 2020 10% more almost 23 million dollars it's a lot of money to raise So yeah if your James O'Keefe you're running around You're doing meetings you're getting money It's it's a lot of hundred thousand dollar checks A LOT And I think we're learning, looking at alternative media in general. As we've learned from the blaze, we look at the Crowder and Daily Wire Shapiro connection big money there you know what Crowder would call big conservative There's a lot of money and a lot of influence and i think we're starting to understand that a lot of this was being used

1:17:12 really, ultimately for political gain. And when you do something that goes outside of that and you expose in a very... I mean it was a bad look for Pfizer It was of course handled properly and this is probably part of it to suppress that story You're stepping on big toes. Pfizer Big Pharma Probably one the most powerful organizations in the world. Yeah, I could compare it to acorn! Yes exactly and you may have stepped on some donors toes and at a certain point the donors are driving the train as Tina would say

1:17:59 So, that shit had to stop and the way to decide to do it is to blow up Project Veritas. And I think this one board member may have something to do with it and just in this morning... It appears that the IRS might have been harassing board members with some threats of God knows what! That could've also played right into a weak board member who might be this Matthew Turman guy who then says, oh we gotta get rid of O'Keefe. We got to blame it all on him. We want to continue because it is a good business I mean it seems like they weren't out of money. You're bringing 20 million plus in now the reason why... It's a good business The reason why it's a very difficult business

1:18:46 is A, O'Keefe is now a known figure so he can't do undercover stuff himself. So he has to get people to do this and... ...a lot of people don't want to do honeypot. You know it's tough and especially if... It's the media business, it's a covert media business you know? People are going to be curt and short with you in the production arena This just what it is! There no different from television or I bet NBC to catch a predator I bet there's a lot of crap going on with that crew as well. Yeah, well it shows off the air. But you know what i mean and there's also a lot of noodle boys and noodle girls these days so this whole memo about oh he was mean... He ate a pregnant lady sandwich! You know whatever he did okay however here's the problem this blow up is such a magnitude

1:19:34 that the whole world is on O'Keefe's side. Everyone sees that O'Keefe is being railroaded, regardless of how it worked internally, that's what they're seeing and I can't fault anyone for it and I don't even think O'Keefe is at fault this... This is just how it goes The problem is to get an organization like this back up and running Do you know what they spend in legal fees? Almost five million dollars a year Because you need that, you need that type of legal assistance when you're doing this kind of stuff. And I think the Pfizer thing for whatever reason... Someone stepped over the line and the whole thing had to be blown up and I wonder if it's possible to put those pieces back together again?

CHAPTER 31 / 52 Discussion

IRS Political Pressure, Non-Profit Status Risks

A discussion on how the IRS can be used as a political tool to pressure non-profit organizations. The segment argues that the non-profit model is inherently risky for media organizations because it grants the government oversight and potential leverage over operations.

irs· lois lerner· non-profit· tax exempt· political targeting

1:20:26 What are your thoughts? I like that analysis. I've always been suspicious there even though they all in denial about the Pfizer thing But they don't know what's going on. You're right about behind the scenes and the IRS is political when Democrats are in power, and I think it is probably so when the Republicans are into but the Democrat political machine gets involved with the IRS And they have the head of the IRS who was appointed by the president and then approved by a rubber stamp I shouldn't use the word approved when I should say rubber-stamped by the Congress or Senate. And they are political, it was shown during the Obama administration

1:21:10 Obama administration when this Lois Lerner, who clearly violated all the edicts that she was you know have to follow and she never did. She never got in trouble for it which is makes it even easier for the next guy will come along say look what Lois did you're not even getting close to that And so yes, and I believe this. I think that the thesis that the IRS is putting pressure via the Biden administration or via Pfizer Yeah, and here's Pfizer has got a lot of important people that are on its board It's got a lot of investors that expect to make money Oh yeah, and they put little pressure this way or that way? And yeah it wouldn't take much against somebody to fold in order get panicky and

1:21:56 I think the mistake that was made, which to me is just...I don't understand why did Project Veritas ever decide to be a non-profit? This is baffling to me. Oh that's a great point! I mean you know what I mean there are a lot of people have said to us why don't you do it not profit because that's the quickest way for the government to shut us down That's literally our answer. But the reason we decided initially is because when we had JC in our back office, he did a lot of research on... He got us all kinds of research on this and that and he found a study that showed that non-profits in our space do less well. Space? In our space! I said that. Take those words back

1:22:46 And non-profits doing what we do get less donations. Of course, that would be our decision! Hey man, we're gonna get less money if we do a nonprofit bad idea That was the real rationale It turns out and I was thinking about this every once in awhile when I see Amy Goodman or somebody going on and on about there being a nonprofit Well, they obviously don't have to make money thus they do the non-profit and it's like something about it turns you off in so far as donating. As opposed to...

1:23:24 Guys like us we're not we are for profit, but we pay the IRS. We pay our taxes We do and it just seems to at least get some sympathy to the donating class saying yeah this poor guys You know they got a paid tax just like everybody else even though you also have to pay tax Like anybody else if you're a nonprofit but being in nonprofit is a bad idea And one of the things that Let me take that back so we get the complete thought out. It's a bad idea unless you have one huge or two monstrous donors that need you to be in non-profit status, so they can take it off their taxes but you're gonna get a ton of money from those two guys

CHAPTER 32 / 52 Discussion

Value for Value Model, Alternative Media Funding

The hosts contrast their "Value for Value" funding model with other alternative media outlets like The Blaze and Daily Wire, which rely on large private donors. They argue that listener-supported models provide more editorial independence.

value for value· the blaze· daily wire· crowdfunding· podcasting

1:24:11 Which is not any way we can do that. No, and this is why we chose or we developed really the value for value model is you know people get pissed off but five ten people it'll hurt but it's not gonna end us You know, we don't have a single source We don't have a single sugar daddy who's out there? You know like some Texas oil guys Jews for Jesus guys and that's that's whose funding those funds daily wire I mean the blaze very, very opaque as to how that actually works. All their money there... I'm just seeing a lot of political money running throughout all so-called alternative media and i think we're starting to see kind of where the problems are and uh you know I was doing a calculation We now know that about 850 000 people listen to one episode of The No Agenda Show

1:25:10 And that's a real number for the one episode, which is pretty good. You know we could do one spot at 25 CPM and that's all we'd have to do per episode. Yeah, one ad at that CPM and that's all we'd have to do but I couldn't live with myself and we would not be able to do this! Well you could live with yourself but you couldn't live with the ramifications Correct And now for years we have in a way been compared to NPR With their model of listener produced radio podcast media

1:25:51 And NPR has always been baffling to us how they receive a little bit of money now, I think it's maybe 3%, but they're always...they have listener donation drives and you can get a coffee mug or a tote bag. Right? But there's not supposed to be advertising, although we have heard in the past you know donor was it sponsorships? Donor underwriting. Underwriting or whatever you want to call it. Advertising whatever you wanna call it. Yeah I should probably play that. Find that clip! Yeah we have it of course Here we go This is important to hear this is from how long ago did we have this clip 2012 Rich Rodriguez recently fired his Oops that's not the one

1:26:40 Here we go. No, that's not oh it was who was it sponsor? It was that woman that woman that woman who Has been around she still floating around doing stuff. She's a very Very talented manager CEO type I think he was running in PR this just the other day didn't we yeah He just played like two to three shows ago and was like call it advertising. Here we go, I got it here's the one okay move it on to money how are NPRs corporate underwriting revenues holding up in the recession and what about foundation grants? Foundation grants two different stories

1:27:23 Underwriting is, underwriting is down. It's down for everybody I mean this is the area that is most down for us Is in sponsorship, underwriting, advertising Call it whatever you want So we of course queried... Call it whatever ya want Can we call it advertising? Is it advertising? Is it sponsorships? Is it underwriting? Well today ten years later We find out the truth Sadly NPR is going through a downturn like everybody else except last time like 10 years ago Except the story has changed just a little bit and now for some news about NPR itself. Oh, this is

CHAPTER 33 / 52 Discussion

NPR Layoffs, Advertising Revenue Decline

NPR announces a 10% workforce reduction due to a $30 million shortfall in projected advertising revenue. CEO John Lansing discusses a "North Star" strategy to seek younger, more diverse audiences while integrating the newsroom with the podcasting division.

npr· john lansing· advertising· layoffs· podcasting

1:28:07 We're going to repard on ourselves because we have so much journalistic integrity. And now for some news about NPR itself, NPR announced a major restructuring today and revealed it's about to lay off about 10% of the workforce our CEO John Lansing cited a drop of 30 million dollars in projected advertising revenues... What? Advertising revenue? A drop of 30%? Well, they dropped the facade. 30% drop... what's he say? 30%? $30 million. $30 million in advertising revenues that's a lot of advertising that you're supposed to not be doing?!

1:28:48 Or, well let's find out as they report on themselves. You know what that microphone you have we're taking that we're taking that as part of your downsizing. We're taking away all your annoyments and pure Yeah, look it's yeah It's a real loss is John Lansing said in a memo to staff I've been here over 18 years It's the toughest cuts I've seen it's probably toughest since the early 80s

1:29:31 What we know is not a lot except about the extent of it and what John Lansing said to me was that It would not be uniform across he wasn't just gonna take a hatchet and do the same across all divisions He won't hold up 30 million is only 10% So how much are these guys making in advertising? I mean He wants to be strategic and thoughtful about how it's done. But, you know this is necessarily going to us doing not only less with less but reconfiguring how we do it he said that this is going to really the focus of how NPR restructures itself in a significant way. No what does that actually mean when he says he wants to be thoughtful? Yeah What does that mean? He doesn't think this will uniform across divisions can you decipher what he's actually envisioning

1:30:20 We don't know. We do know is three different places. It's a deep dive reporting on ourselves NPR is an independent non-profit media organization that was founded on the mission to create a more informed public every day blah blah blah blah thousand stations 3 to 1 point 6 million website visitors, weekly app users. Doesn't really say how they're funded... Oh finances! Strategic priorities he's placing on it if you pack them together one of which is that he's talked about NPRs North Star and that is both as a

1:31:02 sense of mission and a sense of purpose, and also as a business proposition NPR has to deepen and broaden its audience. To you know seek younger and more diverse audience base." And that's the way in which he sees building for the future... Wait a minute they have to seek younger and more diverse audience base? This is death! Only old people listen to NPR are they gonna jazz it up now?! Like do hip podcasts and tell everyone... I'm not sure that what you said is true. Well, let's roll it back a little bit Do we have the demos on this? Do you use it phrase? You caught me flat-footed when you called for the demos on this! I wasn't ready for that! One of which is that he's talked about NPR as North Star and that is both as a sense of mission

1:31:54 purpose and also as a business proposition, NPR has to deepen and broaden its audience to seek younger and more diverse audience base. And that's the way in which he sees building for the future. He said that since he arrived in the fall of 2020 He's also talked about unifying its newsroom with its programming side. The programming is where so much growth has happened, particularly in the podcasting division but these divisions are artificial a lot of our colleagues doing journalism are doing so under the rubric of podcasting but it still really part of a greater journalistic function and so sure There's that and he says, you know this was part of a strategic element beyond where he wants to integrate NPR more fully with its stations. Integrate both in terms of what we do content wise but in terms of raising money and distributing our content online okay

CHAPTER 34 / 52 Discussion

Media Industry Crunch, NPR Revenue Breakdown

A broader look at layoffs across the media industry, including CNN and Spotify. A breakdown of NPR's revenue reveals that 37% comes from corporate sponsorships, challenging the public perception of the organization as purely listener-supported.

cnn· vox media· spotify· corporate sponsorship· grants

1:32:45 So, 10% of the workforce that's going to add up to about 100 jobs. As we know NPR is not alone here there are a whole lot of media companies in a budget crunch how does this news today from our newsroom fit in with a broader picture or of our industry? No it's been a real crunch you saw hundreds of layoffs at CNN they killed their projected streaming service cuts. Do they have corporate underwriters at CNN? Plus you saw 7% cuts at Vox Media, 6% at Spotify and at Gannett and you saw these huge cuts these huge other places Google Meta Amazon Microsoft that also rely on advertising dollars it's one of the first place corporate executives cut when they fear the economy going soft as they have lately even though unemployment remains very low

1:33:31 Is NPR media correspondent David Fokkenflik and David thank you for reporting on NPR just as you would any other media company. All right from the web, a large portion of NPR's revenue comes from dues and fees paid by our member stations in underwriting from corporate sponsorships Other sources of revenue include institutional grants, individual contributions and fees paid by users of the public radio satellite system. So here's the breakdown 37% percent of their revenue comes from corporate sponsorships I presume that's you know brought to you by Pfizer 32% is from core and other programming fees Core...and so and i presume that they mean by that the member stations

1:34:17 and fees paid by public radio satellite system. 12% is contributions of cash and financial assets, that's the Jay Rockefeller Foundation. And... You sure? That's not the public? Yeah, end listeners like you. Listeners like you. 7% is other revenues, is that the advertising part? Maybe That's closer to 10 percent. No, wait five percent is the PRSS satellite contract so okay so maybe in the 32% is core look I think their charter specifically forbids advertising this is what I don't understand. I guess that's true anymore. I guess not. Altered? I think the advertising is probably only working on podcasts that's where they can use advertising from I believe previous

CHAPTER 35 / 52 Discussion

Podcasting Economics, Network Monetization Failures

An analysis of why large podcast networks often fail to monetize effectively. The segment explains the difference in scalability between traditional broadcast and internet distribution, noting that Spotify's $650 million investment in podcasting has struggled due to high overhead and unionization.

spotify· bandwidth· scalability· esg· podcasting

1:35:08 research that we've done. Well he's also, that guy also hinted that the podcasts were different in such a way that I think he hinted that they do native ads on the podcasts. Well no, he says that's what they're going to do there but putting the programming and all the departments together and then it's like well you know these doing podcast but they're really doing core journalism I think it's falling apart because of podcasting. You know, you didn't get there as fast...you got there a little bit before I was gonna...I mean I already thought that. Mm-hmm. I'm totally convinced that what is and it harkens back a little bit on the internet itself and the finances of how a newspaper makes money and how a online newspaper makes money. It is so different

1:35:59 that you can't run the New York Times if it was just online. You have to have the hard copy stuff, there's expensive ads in the print version and you have to... I mean like PC Magazine in its heyday, the one page ads were $50,000! Oh man those days are long gone! And we're talking about hundreds of pages of those ads twice a month. It was glorious. I was flying all over the place. Business class! But yes, and the point is that those days are over and economics are different and same thing with podcasting except for the fact that we have our distribution through our own system if were paying Podbean

1:36:49 We'd be damn near broke. And if we were paying 10 producers, that wouldn't help either but you pointed out in a thing you wrote a long time ago or you said on something a long time ago, you said that people don't understand that broadcasting and podcasting have a different basic element of finance so far as at broadcast in terms of scalability when a broadcaster sends out his signal and he's got 10,000 listeners it's costing him no more or less than if he has 5,000 listeners or 2 million listeners. Because it's a broadcast signal and its broadcasts, it goes everywhere and people pick it up but they don't with anything over the internet If you've got 100 listeners listening to your podcast

1:37:38 the amount of bandwidth it's going to cost you is not the same if you have a million or 10 million. It's gonna cost you a lot of money and it doesn't scale in that way, scale, you can get that many people but you're gonna have to pay more for the bandwidth because it costs money to put stuff on the internet. Doesn't so much with broadcasting and until you get that, you won't realize that podcasting is completely different. There's a huge difference in podcasting really and I and you helped actually spend about 65 million dollars worth of investors money to find out that A single podcast can be very successful can run on its own if you run it lean and mean if you do most of the work yourself You know use tools that are available. The minute you have some skills Yeah, of course, you have to have some skills

1:38:35 It's like, you know, you can't just start a band. You know? Yeah... If you can play the guitar! Yeah if you need to be able to play the guitar or do something or work some electronics The minute you build that into a network which is always the mistake made it myself And as I say you cannot monetize the network That just does not work when people know they can do things on their own they come from their own their own system, you'll never be able to make everybody happy with the ads, the distribution of ads, or distribution money. The promotion it just becomes a quagmire and this is the mistake that Spotify made and I advise them don't do this! This is not the way to go. Of course why would you listen to me? I only blew 65 million, they're close to 650 million probably more

1:39:30 that they blew on their little experiment there. It just doesn't work and now we have this really bad downturn in advertising, and it's so bad that its hitting NPR which is not even supposed to have advertising and that has to be because the only money thats really working I think is on the podcast side cause thats where they can do the ads And the radio is just too expensive The days are over when you had the narrow cast and you had a couple of channels, and there's just too much offering. There is too much! And I... Well, you overlooked the lean in mean. No that's what i'm saying broadcasts by definition not lean and mean. Generally yeah

1:40:21 No, that's they got unions and now you know once the unions got into Spotify, you get an engineer Yeah, you know and then the money was flowing. And it was a ESG check mark for everybody like hey you know we got to do something for BIPOC podcasters. Do we have any? No, but we'll go make some and off run all the consultants and they make BIPOC podcasts and they get big companies to sponsor them and they... You watch that the big conferences like podcast movement and they're all gonna go down the drain now because the money is done there's not going to be... They should've gone down the drain by now

1:41:04 No, they were riding high on the zero interest rate free money. And now you see that even though it's not great for us—it'd been better—we're going to survive this. You know we can tighten our belts but when you have to tighten the belts of a whole organization yeah it just doesn't work that way and then you got to kick people out morale goes down people start stealing stuff pencils, microphones you know all kinds of stuff starts turning up missing. You know people start having sex on the CEO's desk out of spite this is not gonna go well so let's take a look I'm on the page of the NPR podcast page yes

CHAPTER 36 / 52 Discussion

NPR Podcast Catalog, Content Saturation

A review of NPR's extensive podcast catalog, including titles like "Planet Money," "Code Switch," and "Life Kit." The hosts question the viability of maintaining dozens of niche shows in a tightening advertising market.

npr· planet money· code switch· tiny desk· podcasting

1:41:48 Now they have dozens and dozens of pod, I'm gonna just name a few of these. Tell me if you ever heard any of these? Okay we got Up First, just say yes or no. No. Up First? No. Embedded Featuring White Lies. No! Here now and anytime. Yes sir. Here and now anytime. I've heard this one, yes. Oh yeah, Planet Money you have. Yep yep. Life Kit. No. Wisdom From The Top. No Ultima Coppa. Oh, I'm canceling that one right away! Code Switch? Yes, I've heard of that one Really?! Well you keep up with this a little more than i do These...I never heard of any of these ThruLine No no It's been a minute No Rough Translation No Book Of The Day Uh..no Radio Ambulante No! On Our Watch On our watch...No

1:42:49 The limits. How many podcasts do they have? No compromise, go on! No compromise. No. Storycore. Troll Room chiming if you've heard any of these no. Believed. No this is bad Yeah, pop culture happy hour We're canceling that one too. No we're cancelling that one no no What's good with stretch and Bobbito? No bullseye Only a game no Invisibility yes, I've heard of this one. No no I guess not

1:43:34 Tiny desk. Tiny desk? That's what everyone is getting now at NPR, I have not heard of the podcast! Alt-Platino What?! Louder than a riot No no All songs considered That's that's uh...that's um...uh...a build out of all things considered i guess Yes it is From the top We already mentioned from the top There was another one from the top They're doubling up Jazz night in America Very popular jazz. Mudge! Hold on, hold on! I wanna do... Giles Night in America from Frrr and Brrrr Yeah, I want to do that Mountain Stage with someone Hey hey can Zippy get a show of those? It sounds like a bonanza

1:44:21 World Cafe. Okay, I'm done. I left a few out. World Bonanza? No! I don't know any of these but you know what I probably don't know 99% of all podcasts Of course not there's four million of them Well we had the downgrade We had to do some chop and drop There is really 3.9 now Yeah, well close enough. Chop and drop. Operation chop and drop. That's a little too much inside baseball for most of these people that listen to our show. No I think the people who enjoy it... It's interesting, it's entertaining. I think the people who listen to our show enjoy the fact that we don't have some sad story like, looks like we're going to have to drop 50% of the show John! Sorry you can't go down to an hour

CHAPTER 37 / 52 Discussion

Independent Infrastructure, Listener Participation Rates

A discussion on the importance of owning independent distribution infrastructure to avoid de-platforming. The hosts also reflect on listener participation rates, noting that typically only 2-3% of an audience provides financial support.

cloudflare· podbean· podcasting 2.0· donations· human nature

1:45:08 That's right, we got to do less show now. Although your bandwidth story that has changed a little bit but certainly not 15 years ago these days Cloudflare and there's other... We don't want to be dependent the Cloudflare has de-platformed podcast or some yeah I think an actual podcast that they would not proxy it so that's the whole point is that we have producers who've taken this on, Void Zero of course has done this almost from day one. Made sure that we had our own infrastructure our own system and you know with very it's very affordable for us it's not free but it's affordable. It's not free thats for sure No but and its reliable But it is not Podbean Hey you know

1:45:56 I have to say Podbean released their new app and they actually have a couple podcasting 2.0 features in there so i feel bad about using pod bean as a bad example it's me, I'm the one doing it and it's not a bad example I think podbean does a pretty good job except that they charge a lot And if you're in there, you don't get... I mean what's the point? Why don't you just do it yourself. People don't want to do it themselves, they don't want to look into it. I mean, it's cheaper if you can find the... You could do it out of your home, you could do it from your own server if you get a deal with whoever is doing your provisioning for the internet. I think that point we've made in podcasting and then we should move on to something else Is that value for value works and this means that you don't have to have 850 thousand people

1:46:53 You just need, if you can get a hundred people who will support you regularly. You win! If they'll support you at the level that they get out of... The value that gets out of what your doing and that should really be the only reason for existence People still have this broadcast mentality We saw the same thing with blogs Yeah I got a blog, i'm gonna be millionaire like Andrew, what's his name? Sullivan Andrew Sullivan who dropped the ball. He did, you know I couldn't figure out why he did that but just because you can podcast doesn't mean that it should be worth anything if it is it'll come back to you and as we've learned the more listeners you get the less the participation rate in the donations

1:47:46 Which someone asked me, hey I heard you guys say you get like 4% which is high but i think we're right 2 to 3 percent of those people that listen support us. And the question was why? Why can you answer that yeah it's just human nature this way it is with everything if you ever been involved with direct marketing you know immediately that you're gonna get what you can do the numbers and you can know how much money going to make in advance of something you're gonna try to sell But we ask them all the time and they just, they hate us for some reason. No, you have to ask them all the time because otherwise they'll forget. The audience we always had to remember the basics and people out there trying to do podcasting should know this it's like people your podcast isn't the most important thing in anyone's life except you maybe and that might not even be true And so they're always forgetting that you even exist So you have to say hey I'm here and you know We're looking for some more donations oh yeah You guys are okay

1:48:49 Otherwise you're just gonna be forgotten. I wonder if people who listen at high speed don't donate Oh, I'm sure that people listening in high-speed don't donate I'm curious about if that once let's look this here's an example we have our friend the sheriff of Texas yet Jean uh-huh he stopped donating once she started listening at high speed Have you noticed this interesting interesting correlation? Hmm it rots your brain And it moves you away from philanthropy. It makes you greedy, it makes you greedy! Yeah because the greed of trying to cram in a three-hour podcast into two hours... It carries over to your whole being. It's a gestalt. Oh, it's a bad gestalt. A BG.

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Supreme Court Section 230, Gonzalez v. Google

The Supreme Court hears oral arguments in Gonzalez v. Google, a case that could determine if tech platforms are liable for content recommended by their algorithms. The case stems from the 2015 ISIS terror attacks in Paris.

supreme court· section 230· google· algorithms· isis

1:49:43 And you know what? There's more under attack right now. This is my favorite story of the moment because the outcome of this could change the internet forever! This morning, the killing of American college student Naomi Gonzalez in the 2015 ISIS terror attacks in Paris is a case before the Supreme Court I never thought that something like that would happen to her You can never imagine it Never Her parents claim YouTube's algorithms highlighted ISIS produced materials and further radicalized the extremists that killed their daughter. Hopefully by this, it'll change the laws and it will be for the good. Oral arguments today will center on section 230 of The Communications Decency Act of 1996 which says Internet companies including social media platforms cannot be sued over third party content uploaded by users

1:50:36 But some legal experts say social media platforms are responsible for their content. They get to decide what to carry, they get to decide what not to carry and they get to decide how to design their algorithms to amplify certain types of content Another case being heard by the high court today is Anthony Novak of Ohio arrested in 2016 after making a phony police Facebook page with fake announcements He says it was obviously a joke You click the page, it's very obvious and even what you're reading should strike you as off. Local police weren't laughing charging him with disruption of law enforcement operations a jury found him not guilty but he wants the Supreme Court to grant him the right to sue police for violating his civil rights They raided my house they took my electronics they arrested me My image was blasted all over the news I didn't do anything wrong

1:51:24 So I don't want them to think that's okay, because I kind of think they do. Both these cases could have big implications one potentially making social media platforms more liable for their content the other could draw the line between parity and public safety So this of course is about power over the internet That's the only thing that this is about no one cares who got hurt by the Internet where you think this will land Well, this is going to be...this is a big deal. Yeah And it was that...it's just gonna be in the Supreme Court's hands and they're gonna have to deal with it

1:52:06 We do notice that Roberts and Kavanaugh are flip-flopping liberal to conservative. Curiously, Kavanaugh... you'd think he would be so irked by the treatment he got? I thought Kavanaugh was conservative He is but he's flip flopping just like Roberts On this particular issue or in general? No on all issues There was a recent case where there were clear conservative values versus liberal values traditional liberal values and he flipped over. And so I think the Supreme Court's in pretty good shape, so far as honesty about their positions and they do this you know? You don't know what's gonna happen when the guy gets in there. And I think they're gonna take a good hard look at this and whatever they come up with is going to be fascinating

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Meta Verified, Social Media Subscription Models

Mark Zuckerberg announces "Meta Verified," a subscription service for Instagram and Facebook costing $11.99 a month. The move follows Twitter's lead in charging for verification badges and direct customer support.

mark zuckerberg· instagram· facebook· meta verified· elon musk

1:52:55 I really hope they destroy it all. I mean, i'm kind of on your side...I do! I want it all to be destroyed. You know you in case you off I should probably play this because this is a do we have it here yes this is as predicted as predicted change is coming to Instagram and Facebook users will soon need to pay if they want to become verified account its move that follows in Twitter's footsteps CEO Mark Zuckerberg says the new subscription service is aimed at improving security For $11.99 a month you'll get a blue verified badge and direct access to customer support the program rolls out this week in Australia launching in the US a little bit later this year so two reasons, two reason for this one financially verified is much better than just verified So now we know where to go to get you if you post some trolling comment and it will be perfect because we want to be your bank

1:53:50 So now Elon Musk gets a little competition from the meta boys and girls. Well, right off the bat I mean you get those guys they're not dummies and they see what he's up to and which you saw and I saw that what he's up to... I hope they destroy it all because we'll still have our own protocols will work. Anyone who has Gmail you're screwed! You might as well get another account somewhere because that's gonna be gone But everything else, we'll still be able to communicate. Podcasts will continue it'll probably be the only thing left on the internet. They don't know quite how to attack it? How can you? It's truly... they keep trying! They keep trying to attack it. There is probably more

1:54:36 I'd say slander action, libel action on podcasts than anywhere. The problem is it's so linear that is impossible to track it down. Well you know because they keep threatening the door AI and machine learning will be able to figure... Hey we publish a transcript on every single show So if you want to know if we slandered you, you can just read the transcript. But no they're gonna... law enforcement of the Internet, the Internet police are going to figure it all out yeah we can do that with machine learning No! You can't It doesn't work

1:55:16 None of it works. And then the biggest thing is... None of it works, that's the theme! The worst part is alright you want to sue us? Alright good luck but what do you all you can take my house I guess if you chop it up for firewood there's no money in suing a little podcasters That's the that is the problem. Yeah, that's why so why bother even who cares what they say? No I mean we don't slander or libel people because we actually know the laws yeah But there's plenty of it going on Yes, but again like you said these podcasters are suffering unless they came out at barstool sports Or something like that They don't have any money well your call her daddy or something like that, but he makes big dough even Joe Rogan and

1:56:06 I don't think there's ever been a slander lawsuit against Joe Rogan. And there is some money to be gotten there, isn't that interesting? Maybe people just don't care. Well you know if they wanted this and also all those dozens of podcasts I just ran through NPR, they're people who are shooting their shit and saying dumb stuff. Sure there are lawsuits out there but NPR has got $300 million budget, thats plenty of it. That's somewhat deep Yeah mark advertising no less Anyway, the world's in trouble. It's all burning and I'd like to move I'd like to hear your Cy Hersch clips before we take a break Oh sure cuz I like her I like what Cyrus shy-shy-shy Hersh Was on of all things he was with a British guy comedian Russell Brand

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Seymour Hersh Interview, Balloon Shootdown Theories

Investigative journalist Seymour Hersh appears on Russell Brand's show to discuss the Nord Stream report and recent balloon shootdowns. Hersh claims one of the objects shot down over Alaska was a university weather unit and suggests the balloon narrative was a distraction.

seymour hersh· russell brand· f-22· alaska· weather balloon

1:57:05 Oh yes, I saw this. It was rather interesting Well i thought it was interesting from the perspective that Russell Brand is a pretty good interviewer with a guy like Cy Hirst because he disarmed him by insulting him Right off the bat. It was very good. Right off the bat! It was very good. I agree about his hat right? Well, no. That was Cy insulting Brand or mentioning the hat which tipped Brand off that oh you want to play that game? Right right right so they went back and forth and he really gave it to Cy And he was cracking up It's good well Cy Hirsch has humor and and you have to have humor as Seymour Hirsch when when you're being called a

1:57:46 A liar, a Putin puppet. There was something else that he did early on it was before the Russia collusion that he also called bullcrap on they oh well if something with Obama I think wasn't something with Obama? Well, he...Sy has a uh..he's had a good...he handled it well to the point where I know he didn't expect to do much on this show and ended up talking and talking. I gotta go but let me tell you this! Yeah yeah yeah So there was only two things that were interesting one was there were 2 little things about the balloons And this is Cy Hurst on the Alaska balloon.

1:58:42 Maybe you could argue they could take photographs of what a satellite can see much better. But basically, the last way that the unnamed car-like with American press so full of it... It turns out there's a federal government has a contract with the meteorology department or whatever it is weather department at the University of Alaska in Fairbanks and that is one cold place. That's way up there also most of the classes are underground. You go underground to classes I've spoken there I know about this firsthand And over the Arctic Circle is a... Everybody flies the polar route from Asia to America and there's no weather station there. So, the university has these little vehicles that goes and reports pilots want to know if there is any unusual weather going on that's what you have to do And they are reporters of that information That was shot down one of those units that is sent up by a university under but paid by the government

1:59:44 I didn't know that. That was pretty interesting." Yeah, I thought that was good too but then he has a real screwball story about the F-22 and shooting down the balloon and this is...I recorded put this on here because i thought it was funny. A lot of money for the f-22 and its first kill was the first balloon that one came over was discovered over Montana and the pilot And I'd like to think that he knows exactly what he's doing. When he landed, you know in World War II your guys and your Spitfires and us at our P-51s used took care of every mission but you put a little...you painted on the side a decal for the kills we did the same in Asia when they are P-51s so the pilot this F22 getting the first kill of this plane painted a balloon

2:00:33 On the side of a specialized. I'd love to think he was joking, and I don't know that...I know it did it! I don't know whether what was in his state of mind but thats what we're doing now We've got a kill we killed the balloon and thats worth a couple you know few hundred billion dollars for a plane It's such a joke And I think all of that balloon stuff That was just there to distract everyone from Hirsch's actual report? I believe so too You do believe? I do believe Yeah certainly seems like that Most definitely. Yeah, well Russell Brand was he have six million subscribers on his YouTube I sure does it didn't you also? I think he's on rumble now too as a backup No this was on rumble. Oh good. He's gonna need that he's gonna need that yeah Well, he's got him He's gonna need that and with that I'd like to thank you for your courage say in the morning to you The man who put the C and call it advertising ladies and gentlemen please say hello to my friend on the other end mr John C

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Modern Podcast Apps, Troll Room Community

A guide for listeners on using modern podcasting 2.0 apps to access live streams and the "Troll Room" chat. The hosts emphasize the decentralized nature of their community on No Agenda Social.

podcasting 2.0· podverse· curiocaster· troll room· no agenda social

2:01:35 Yeah, a little Darren O'Neill in you there. In the morning to you and in the morning I'll ship some sea boots with the ground feeding the air subs into water and all the damns of nice out there! Hey you on 1.5 speed slow it down this is good stuff here. Now we're gonna have to do that from time-to-time when people... Whoa whoa I just heard someone talking in normal parlance That's right, in the morning to all the trolls in our troll room. Trollroom dot IO Let's see these are the people who hang out that have been very helpful actually today except for blue deuce 33 For some reason I can't kick people out anymore and there's something wrong. I don't have the power I'm having more God power so I feel bad

2:02:13 And the trolls, they listen live. You can do that by getting a modern podcast app with a new domain name PodcastApps.com! Ha! You don't have to put the new in front of it now you can pick up one of those apps that will alert you when we're going live or late as we say in podcasting 2.0 language I like Podverse, Podcast Addict does it. You can also listen live on CurioCaster you'll get the troll room right there with the livestream in the same place you get your podcast apps and a reminder if you want to try out a different podcast app you can export all your podcasts from the current one you're using it and import it into a new one so yet so you don't really miss out on anything. Let's find our trolls! How many do we have here today?

2:02:56 What is good for a Thursday? 1800. Yeah, we're low... 1721 Oh, no! We've lost all our trolls. Oh my goodness and we love the trolls so much well we hope you come back or at least we hope that you hang out with us at NoAgendaSocial.com probably the most blocked instance in the Fediverse there's reasons and we're happy about that That's how it should be That's how the internet should work

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Episode Artwork Review, No Agenda Shop

The hosts review listener-submitted artwork for the current and previous episodes. They discuss the use of AI in art creation and highlight new merchandise available at the No Agenda Shop, including "Appetite for Deconstruction" hoodies.

digital art· ai art· nestworks· guns n' roses· merchandise

2:03:32 If you don't like something, it's a bug just route around it. That's perfectly okay. Follow John C. Dvorak at noagendasocial.com or Adam at noagendasocial.com And I would like to thank the artist who brought us the artwork for episode 1531 we titled that one The Dead Name and uh... You know? I have to say that there just didn't feel like there was a lot and funny enough for the rant I put out about Tucker Carlson and Don Lemon. The best art, which we kind of liked was the lemon sour's Sour Puss Punch Which had a caricature of Don Lemon on the box. As a lemon? As a lemon, and I thought it was a good caricature! It really looked good... Well the thing on their web page popped like hell, I didn't even realize how good that thing looks when it was actually produced No, it popped massively. Nestworks did this by the way Yeah he did And a lot of people got it they thought it was funny

2:04:31 But it, I don't know. It feels like... even today i'm seeing kind of a low turnout on the arts. I mean it's possible that people have other things to do. It is after all still Black History Month we had Presidents Day on Monday which Mountain J was just swinging for the fences on trying to get president sale best price with coins Let's discuss this, John. Because I think sometimes an artist when they're just trying to swing at it and... Oh art director was comic strip blogger? I see! Now there you go now i know what the problem was Mountain J worked with comic strip blogger on trying to create a piece that would win That kind of makes it understandable Can you explain how wrong this was in this case

2:05:27 Which one? The coins, the President's Day sale. The coins with the live and the black... Yeah eight times over they were posted! It just was not it was this is an example of an artist getting a hair up their ass And knowing there's something there but they can't get it themselves in fact if you I'll tell you this have been artists repeats the same piece over and over and starts changing things yes and They don't have confidence in the piece right It's just saying, well maybe if I did this. Maybe if I do that... This before we even looked at it once and so they're already... So there is kind of a giveaway that there something amiss now once in awhile you see couple of maybe two variations on something or somebody changes the background and okay that kinda works. Yeah I don't know what the point of these coins are? Well I think what happened was it might have been Mountain J who almost won the episode before

2:06:25 Maybe even one before that which was the best price and we chose for I think some balloon art Let me see if that was Mountain J. Yeah, but that was the Balloon or no? That was Tantaniel. No, it's Tom to Neil It was Tantaniel and it was a balloon is shaped like a heart Yes, that's the one we wound up choosing but so for some reason best price I think that's really more of an inside joke. It only works when you do it with a racist accent, best price! Doesn't really work otherwise? So i have a feeling that somehow they got mixed up Her last one which is the president sale best price and I don't know what she says custom license to art what was licensed

2:07:07 What a... I don't know, maybe like... They can't! It's just flag. Maybe but you know if you look down below it was like comic strip blogger was the art director and that sudden death right there why would you take our direction from comics or blogger all he does is butts Well now he's doing almost exclusively AI art. Some of it is pretty good, I liked his piece but it was never gonna get picked which was the Biden one where he looks like... this crazy Biden picture that was nice two shows ago maybe? Oh L-Biden? L-Biden yeah! That's a good piece

2:07:51 Let's see, what else did we have? Nothing else here was really that great. I mean i did use another Nessworks piece for the newsletter which was this false claim sauce with a cartoonized version of Chef. Oh, it does look like... I think it's supposed to be Shiva. It could be anybody but he's got them holding this can and it is just a nice pretty piece and there's the little thing in the background of the guys head that whatever was called his name for it So other choices that we had, we need more ammo. That didn't really work there wasn't a lot of choice at Don't Raff There was a Made Marriott kind of a joker piece but that you know had a number on it We try not to use episode number art No Agenda Google ITM was nice piece But now it didn't really tickle us the Tesla recall by capitalist agenda no and just I didn't get that one

2:08:56 And that was kind of it. What else? There wasn't a lot of offering No, I thought it was flat You're flat everybody's flat and you're still looking flat Let's hope we can get something good for this episode. Maybe everyone is broke and out of ideas. Broken, out of my company just like a depression I've always said that people don't understand what a depression is they have these reasons you do some calculation over here in the depression People are depressed In the depression But also... I think it's called a depression because they're literally depressed

2:09:34 I don't really want to go to work. But is it not so that during bad economic times and depressions some of the best art is created? I'm beginning to think that's a myth! I think we're doing some of our best work, personally... Maybe?! Personally I think we're knocking out of the park here if you listen at one time speed otherwise yeah it all just blends together maybe people are just going nuts You know, if it's not the outrage of the day then whatever. We've been through these cycles we've seen it all. Outrage of the day! Congratulations to Nessworks thank you so much with this equal opportunity offenders here for anybody who wants to try their hand at creating the art that will use for episode 1532 which is this one by the way I really like that graffiti as you would call graffiti

2:10:29 from Fluff Comet. I like that piece a lot! Yeah, but it says 1532 we don't typically... It is 1532. We don't typically pick... We've done it a lot. If somebody can beat that piece, I'm voting for him. So far so good. You can follow along at NoahArtGenerator.com or in one of those new podcast apps podcastapps.com All of them have the chapter feature And our very own Dreb Scott does those after the fact, adds them all in and adds a lot of the art that didn't make it which is a fun way to display that as well. And of course some this art actually winds up at noagendashop.com I saw a new piece The Appetite for Deconstruction is apparently now on hoodies and T-shirts and mugs...I can't wait to buy a couple of them!

2:11:15 I need a new hoodie and that is you know, that's the art that you didn't like. The one with the skulls? Yeah! That Guns N' Roses take off? It looks like a Grateful Dead logo to me... it's actually taken from Guns N' Roses appetite for destruction so it's a spoof but I think it's beautiful. No Agenda Shoppe not affiliated with No Agenda Shoppe. Just right in your Texas Hill Country. That's right we're a bunch of hillbillies over here And thank you of course nest works and thanks all the artists, you know We give you these reviews because no one else will be honest with you we are and we and we appreciate All the work that goes into it. Of course as with all the things everyone does 150 emails a day of people with ideas with stories with Boots on the ground reports with jingles with clips it really is a time talent and treasure

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Executive Producer Donations, FuelOx Promotion

A segment dedicated to high-tier donors and executive producers. One donor promotes FuelOx, a plant-based lubricant company, claiming their products could have prevented the East Palestine train derailment.

fuelox· lubricants· east palestine· philanthropy· donations

2:12:04 mission is value for value and we'd like to thank, we're gonna thank everybody all in one go. We can do it once again no two segments necessary and we start off with our executive producers $300 and above of course associate executive producer is 200 between 200 and 300 and kicking it off from Glen Gardner New Jersey with $1,000 Sir Never PC who says Dear John and Adam, thanks for your insights into the real truth behind the deluge of propaganda we are bludgeoned with daily. Now there it is that's exactly what we do. We protect you from the bludgeoning I was hit in the mouth while listening to Adam on the JRE Joe Rogan donation about a year ago and have been an avid convert ever since well and you don't have to convert you can stay a JRE listener as well

2:12:55 In exchange for jingles and karma, I'd appreciate it if you let me shamelessly promote my revolutionary product that I know can change the world. Oh yeah this is great! Here's someone who understands value for value... My company is Fuelox.com all of our products are sustainably focused. Our Infinity lubes are revolutionary as they outperform all others on the planet by hundreds of percent and are completely non-toxic plant based, in fact the East Palestine disaster initiated by a wheel bearing that lacked lubrication would have been completely avoided had they been utilizing our infinite... infinity super... infinity super grease!

2:13:41 As I said, our Infinity lubes are revolutionary and have over 20 years of R&D to back them up. Needless to say the old guard petroleum-based lubricant companies hate us and will do everything they can to keep us from succeeding And for that reason, I guess I'll request one jingle Please give me we punch him in the mouth which would be We hit him in the mouth John! Have you tried this revolutionary product? The question is does it stack up against Ranch Hand Well, he's gonna send me some. Mm-hmm and you too? No I would die love lube if you give him an address I gave my PO box oh well then you'll get it He yeah, I don't know. I don't know of any I don't know Jimmy there's Lubricants come from everywhere And they're a lot of emerges chemicals that happen to have high lubrication factors mm-hmm poly alpha

2:14:35 Olefin is one of them, which is the synthetic oils. Which is one type of synthetic oil. I'll give it a shot! I mean...I like something that's good especially this little bottle of micro lube It's very...you put in one small drop on something and just goes nuts So it's possible, could be great stuff. But I think he's wrong about the oh they hated by his small market that big oil companies don't care at all but if you make a success out of it and you actually threaten their business still give me a lot of money to buy you out and do it then put their name on and say hey we're plant-based. That's bull crap that part of it. I don't like that kind of awkward promotion

2:15:25 You're not hated in other words. Well, not by us I love lube! Bet you do. Hey thank you very much Sir Never PC and uh give it a try we'll promote him he'll give them a plug of free plug if this stuff works yeah and i'll play that jingle as we end up the donation segment that's what we use it for so onward with Dame Lady Bird in Provencal Louisiana 680-06 ITN she writes a handwritten note And I have it. And I can make noise with it. In close, find my V4V contribution of 680-06. The fifth year... See if they figure what that means? The fifth year's mammogram post breast cancer came back clear! Yeah!!

2:16:18 This was great news for me as my chances of recurrence are reduced. Nice! Please may I have an F cancer for all of those out there still fighting it and a health karma for everyone, thank you 40651 of this contribution puts me at baronectus And I think she's on the list. She is so Baronette this ladybird eagle of the Toledo Bend If it pleased the peerage committee will be my new title, I could never afford how much you are worth to me Love is lit No rat yes Dame Lady Bird. I will say that she right hand wrote this letter beautiful and it's in its printed in all caps yep But it's really nice

2:17:05 Very readable, so it's like you'd read it. It's like a radio read everything is all caps You've got karma So she has good hand as they like to say indeed I guess I'm up here there we go Randy Carlson paramp Nevada Our favorite executive producer donation amount we always ask for it 333.33 switcheroo This birthday 23rd of February credit belongs to Dame Sand Cat of Southern Nye County And he says jingles tortoise in the race and goat karma yet tortoise in the race is not actually a separate jingle

2:17:55 It's it's one of the it's one of the Sharptons. I'll see maybe it's in here We are watching that was a Attorney General Eric Holder abds about some Republicans at home Already beating the good to hear Sharpton again actually war today the Pentagon Refuted that claim and he said the American people do not want him to quote Dwindling they did not want him dwindling his thumbs. I'm gonna give as a caught contortionist intravenous fluids and pills coated all with galette gelatin we don't

2:18:39 Don't leave our women or men in uniform behind. It's a monument to the hubris of Dick Cheney, Representative Raul Arra Labrador. Years of abuse! I personally apologize to Mr. Pevis. Just ask... Soon to be former congressman Democrats are outright jitties. CIA's countering, counter-terrorism center. Not in here. That's the defense secretary Shinsketti. Why do I always mess up his name? Shinseki! I love my critics after everything that... Couldn't find it sorry You've got

2:19:22 It'll have to do. I did find Sir Vegas King in Lost Wages, Nevada which is near Pahrump. Oh is it now? Yeah and uh... In fact I think Pahrump could be called a suburb 333 dot 33 thank you thank you thank you! I cannot express the joy and info you have brought us So much to say about life and how Vegas is and isn't doing well after the shutdown. Maybe more in another note, yes I would like to hear about that myself. We love boots on the ground like that! SirVegasKing and Stephanie watch SinCityChurch.com each week. Another plug for something we don't know about...

2:20:08 Uh, 333 from Surrounded by my Privilege. I'm making this donation as a way of saying thank you for your courage and to return value not only for these twice weekly amygdala shrinking therapy sessions but also because of just how generous you are with your time. Huh? Well, let me read on. I don't know how you do it with all... Oh! I think he's talking to me He is certainly not talking about you. I don't know how did- How you do it with all you have going on in your life a wildly successful podcast developing po- oh yes This is flattering Developing podcast 2.0 undergoing serious health challenges A keeper to keep yet none of this prevents you from maintaining a dedication to your producers with a level of accessibility that is unmatched in media and entertainment

2:20:51 Nearly every time I've reached out with a question about OTG phones or audio drift from double-ending, you've taken the time to respond. That is true class setting the standard for all to follow." It's not that hard to answer an email and that I learned from my colleague John C. DeBoer No jingles, no karma. No promoting the new podcast I'm producing which is by far the best one in my zip code if you include the plus four we can do that a number of times this is just to say thank you for all you and John do and express my appreciation for every last producer of The NO Agenda Podcast sincerely Andrew aka Surrounded By My Privilege That was very nice Thank You so much Yeah it was nice

2:21:36 QQ's up next I'll get the next two because qq from Key West Florida. No, no, I can't find a note $333 for double the karma I think would be yeah Can I just say so? I know qq of met qq He was qq like qq is very Russian-like, but he's not. I think he is from Moldova and he has been giving me a lot of insight to the bull crap there so it has been giving boots on the ground reports nothing that we know good for QQ QQ is very cool but I will give him double karma he deserves that for sure You've got... karma That brings me to Dustin Eck in Williamsport Pennsylvania and he came with 333 Williamsport? My family lives in Williamsport

2:22:23 Oh, yeah. ITM gentlemen another Rogan donation been an avid listener for over two years and this is my first donation of V4V finally hit me in the mouth and caught brought me to my senses. I would like to call Zach Jeff and Jimmy Zach, Jeff and Jimmy. Zach, Jeff and Jeff. Jimmy! Jimmy! Those three are all douchebags Time to shh-i-t or get off the pot boys little phrase Anyway the work you guys do is very underappreciated

2:23:03 We both agree with that. And I just hope the small donation will help keep you guys around that much longer, no jingles no karma just keep up the good work! That's exactly how ever... Thank you so much! That's exactly how you have to think if you like that little store on the corner and you don't go in and buy something from time-to-time that little store on the corner will eventually go away and you'll be sad. That's how we should look at it. So we're just a little store on the corner of Maine. Don't take much. Of Maine and The Hood Brian P. Bellin is in Asbury, New Jersey First Associate Executive Producer $250 thanks for a great show please explain that vasectomy looks better wife wants me to get one I'm not down for it need more reasons okay we go to our resident vasectomy expert John C. Dvorak who has developed and proven his theory multiple times

CHAPTER 44 / 52 Discussion

Vasectomy Side Effects, John C. Dvorak Theory

John C. Dvorak shares his unconventional theory on the long-term physical and psychological effects of vasectomies. He claims the procedure, which gained popularity in the 1920s, can lead to a "youthful but feminine" appearance in men.

vasectomy· health· 1920s· castration· medical history

2:23:52 Well, I've started with 1923 is when the vasectomy became popular. It was just a coincidence that they noticed this is that if a vasectomy was the substitute earlier for de-balling castrating prisoners who were sex criminals or they had other issues and they noticed that a doctor would cut these guys balls off and then the guy would come when he got out of prison go kill the guy. So that wasn't working out. So they came up with this operation where they did this, which became a vasectomy which accomplished the same thing in other words you got denutted but it was the guy looked down and he looked fine and he's too dumb to know that anything happened so he didn't get killed by doctor but they started noticing these guys started have a youthful look

2:24:52 As they got older, they started looking like young lesbians. But it was useful and you'd look good! The skin was smooth and didn't have so many wrinkles... There were a number of things that became a rage in the 20's And there is a lot of research done on not only do you look better But you also, you might live longer. There's a million reasons these vasectomies were used for this but it was also noticed by myself and others that the look was really an old lesbian look. It developed... Rachel Maddow? For awhile then you started to look like an old woman

2:25:29 Yeah, and the skin was white. It's not a good thing So I just waited P. I try to dissuade people from getting vasectomies but most of the time the women have it you know they The spouse look if she wants it and you're gonna do what she got you by the balls already brother so you might as well just Get get over Yeah, why don't you just... well there's other things you could do. Well here's the one thing and I don't know how old you are Brian but my good friend Mike he's the former cop from Kerrville with anger management issues and so he's remarried and now 50s in his fifties and is significantly younger hot wife wants to have a baby! So now he's got to reverse this

2:26:18 It was rarely works. Well, you know he doesn't it doesn't even like the whole idea but you know She loves her so she's probably gonna have to go for it So and that yeah good pain in the ass I mean well not really a pain somewhere else where? So we can't other than that you think is symbolic. I think again You're just being Kim. I think it's symbolic castration. That's my opinion And say hi to your wife. I'm sure she loves listening to the show and i'm sure all the vasectomy victims out there that listen to this show they just right at the moment goes the donations for the next show. Vasectomy victims? There should be a group of vasectomy victims anonymous, the VVA. I'm telling you! Okay thank you very much Brian

CHAPTER 45 / 52 Discussion

Associate Executive Producers, Knighting Ceremony

The hosts acknowledge mid-tier donors and perform a virtual knighthood ceremony for those who have contributed $1,000 or more. The segment emphasizes the "Value for Value" philosophy and the personal connections within the producer community.

knighthood· peerage· donations· value for value· community

2:27:14 Indy. I'll do it, Indie. Indi...Indianoagenda meetup Greenwood Indiana 226 switcheroo donation for Julie Sheiks What? She won the raffle Yeah and i think they had they sent a uh i think they sent a meet up report that's right she won the raffle and she's also not only she's a long time listener but now first-time donor so needs a dedouche you've been deduced cool I'm gonna add the indie thing there too. Parker Newcomb is up and he's in Houston, Texas 223 and he says I need a deducing You've been D douched

2:28:00 Please allow me to show for one of my favorite podcast blood satellite Excellent show just wanted to give them a boost and thank you guys as well For all the great content bring back zippy Yeah karma Yeah, karma Bitcoin truck or horn somebody asked beyond in the no agenda thing You know what do what? Do we have a donation level so we can have the note a complete note read in Zippy's voice. Yeah, that's a great That's a great idea! I could pull in big bucks for the show. Well, so when I first came up with it... Then I said no no no no no. Immediately thought executive producer only and then I said well I didn't put this in the note but I'm thinking to myself How about 500 bucks? Shut up Zippy! Zippy is getting all jacked up More more more! I'm worth alot! I'm not just some cheap whore

2:29:00 Yeah. Okay, alright. Hold on I need to do the jingles here for the... What is it? Yeah Karma Bitcoin Trucker Horn Well we're going to do it in reverse order They are saying that all hell is gonna break loose and you're gonna need a bitcoin You've got karma Thank you, Parker. Jeffrey Williams, Broomfield Colorado, RowaDucks222.22 I took the slow boat from Grime-erica to Noah Jender Nation but what a fantastic trip! Please extract me from the douche canoe. You've been de-douched

2:29:46 I like douche canoe. Dragana is back from Averovic in Parker, Colorado and she says this is a switcheroo donation from my human resource Alice so we have a human resource getting this donation February 19th was her birthday and I would like to beg you all if you could maybe sing her happy birthday song to Alice You can sing. You've been de-douche'd! I'm not really a de-douche. Happy birthday to you, happy birthday dear Alice...

2:30:29 Thank you, Zippy. You got the exclusive Zippy song. That's right. She turned... and by the way, kept it in tune much better than Adam has ever done. She turned five years old! If not please read this Happy birthday Alice Mommy and Billy love you very much and please de-doosh her. We've got to do that one more time. Sorry, here's a de-dooshing thing again. Yeah sorry And she loves the jingle you've been dedouched. Could you play that? We played it. She goes around saying that everywhere, even in pre-K You've been de-juiced and I'm pretty sure her teachers have no clue what she's saying and why. Ha ha ha! I would just say, de-juiced to make sure if there is any question. De-juice? Yeah in fact Simon Doyle is from Orfield PA $200 associate executive producer title love the show thanks for all you do this is my first time donation so I must request a de-juicing

2:31:27 God bless, Baruch Hashem! You got it. Oh my gosh! You've been de-douche'd Kind of I guess And finally the last two on our list is Scott Fuller in Cumming Georgia for 200 and John Selley in Dodge North Dakota both of them with no notes so we give them a combined double up karma you've got karma and Those are the executive and associate executive producers for episode 1532 This means that you get that forever title the executive producer of this Noah Jenna episode or associate executive producer You can use those wherever

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2:35:10 Scott Horton donation found that on the stream back in 2011 I do believe your show was playing instead of his at work one day and the rest is history No agenda has red-pilled me. Sorry, it was not the intention which is depressing most times but has done for me what I can put into words right now you definitely helped me laugh about it all and It is a quality product I met Adam and the Keeper in Des Moines, and was at the Keep-Up in Chicago. I would love to meet John someday." I was listening to Curry & The Keeper number 32—incredibly funny by the way—and I'd mentioned how close I was to knighthood at dinner but didn't have my night name figured out! Thanks to The Keeper, Sir Brian with an I, and all of the fantastic people that were there, I decided on Sir Brian with a Y!

2:35:53 The rest of the fantastic people that were there. Oh, um... The copious party favorites at the round table are already great I don't need to burden the staff. I hope to maybe come down to the Nashville meetup April 17th when and whenever the Indy one will be it'll be sometime our Chicago group is gonna find our way there soon regardless so look out Indie do it on a weekend all right thank you very much and your on deck for uh for your nighting and thanks for showing up at the Meet Up in the Keep-Up that's great I'll go straight through. Forrest Martin came in with 50-05 and we have another

2:36:29 royalty here with 50-02 M of the Mid Valley and with this humble donation I push past the threshold of knighthood. I request a title Sir M Mad Son Of The Mid Valley! I also humbly request dad jokes and double espresso at the roundtable lastly if i could get a plug for my ongoing project or labor of love slash exit strategy anti computer org ah yes I know this product. It's the only site on the internet built without the aid of computers, anti-computer dot org. It is an online periodical that uses humor and satire to lampoon modern life in technology with hidden NA references! The latest issue tackles work from home, the death of expertise how to watch Netflix when the grid goes down and interview with the singularity

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2:39:08 Battle Creek, Michigan. He's looking for work. He's newly divorced and looking for work Yeah No Sam Julian Robbins and aptos Cal another aptos California to meet up there Alan being sir Baron Allen being in Beaverton Oregon Michael Statham Parts unknown answer hold my beer is still there in Austin Texas want to thank these people for all these people from making everything work here on the no agenda show 15 20 1532. Yeah, 1532 and I want to say hi to Sir Julian he drove out from Bastrop to have lunch with me on was it Tuesday here in Fredericksburg you remember him from the Bastrop meetup that he and his Dame put in a huge donation at the time and he said

2:40:00 I really love the donation segments. Do people understand how much content there really is in those donation segments? I said, no, I don't know! They do seem to come back after the segment, but yeah there is a drop off about 7%. I agree. I think some of our best work is in these segments Thank you so much. I want to thank Deborah for the card it's nice. Thank you. Thank you to all of our execs associate execs they have the forever titles Of course, thank you everyone all the way up to $50 under that we do not mention for reasons of anonymity We try and keep it that way But we do appreciate everyone who was on those sustaining donations. You can find out more about them at our website devorak.org and let's give a little service goat karma for those who need it. And thank all of you for supporting the No Agenda Show episode 1532. Our formula is this, we go out, we hit people in the mouth.

CHAPTER 46 / 52 Discussion

Birthdays and Title Changes, Peerage Ladder

A celebration of listener birthdays and official title changes within the No Agenda peerage. The hosts announce the elevation of Dame Lady Bird to Baroness Lady Bird Eagle of Toledo Bend.

birthdays· peerage· baroness· knighthood· ceremony

2:41:06 Order! Shut up, slave! Shhhhh... shut up, slave. It's your birthday, birthday. Oh so much and... Ah nice list today Dragana Averovic wishes her daughter Alice a happy birthday turned 5 on February 19th and Zippy did all of that work for her so good Dame Sandcat of Southern Nye County celebrating today the 23rd Sir Lainard wishes Josh Bradford a happy birthday turns 39 tomorrow And Dame Drea, Mad Dame of the Mid-Valley wishes her sweetums M of the Mid Valley a happy birthday and we say happy birthday from everybody here at The Best Podcast in the Universe!

2:41:49 Title change, yes. Turn and face the slaves. Nice changes! Don't wanna be a douchebag. We have one title change you heard it earlier Dame Lady Bird now becomes Baroness Lady Bird Eagle of Toledo Bend and we welcome her to this higher level on the peerage ladder and thank you very much for your extra support we really do appreciate it we got two knights on deck John- ow Ow! I cut myself too. I need your blade. Here you go. Let me just put this bandaid on, thank you Two knights on deck there we go Brian Richardson, step up here on the podium and M of the Mid-Valley both of you supported The Noah Jenner Show in the amount of $1,000 or more and I'm therefore very proud to pronounce to Kate V as Sir Brian with a Y and Sir M Madson of the mid valley for you gentlemen by request we have of course hookers and blow rent boys and Chardonnay also dad jokes with double espresso

2:42:44 We got warm beer and cold women, fish pie and fellatio. We got some harlots and howled doll. We've got redheads and ryes organic macaroni and plasticizer Beer and blunts, Rubenes, Rumen and Rose, Geisha and the sake, Bacchum, Nillebong, Hits and bourbon sparkling cider and escorts ginger ale and gerbil's breast milk and pablum And of course where would we be without mutton and mead Feast on that with all the rest of the Knights and Dames here at The Round Table, and when you're ready go to noagendanation.com slash rings Everybody can see the beautiful No Agenda Knight or Dame rings on display there We need you fill out the form Let us know what your ring size is And where to send it Of course with that comes wax Official wax To seal your correspondence with And a certificate of authenticity signed by John and myself Thank you again for supporting The NO AGENDA Show!

CHAPTER 47 / 52 Discussion

Meetup Reports, Global Producer Gatherings

Audio and written reports from No Agenda meetups in Washington D.C., Philadelphia, and Indianapolis. The hosts announce upcoming gatherings in Toronto, Miami, and Oklahoma City, highlighting the importance of local community connections.

washington dc· philadelphia· indianapolis· community· meetups

2:43:31 All right, we got meetup reports here. Written one from Roger Roundy From the senile POTUS Washington DC 19th of February meetup. He didn't send in a piece of audio, he's gonna make me do the work and attendants were Willow H Grimm Sir Pantagelini Kurt B The Human Action Handyman Renegade And A Polish Dude Named Job We saw close up Ron Paul Jimmy Dore and Dennis Kucinich among many others Oh celebrities! We met people all over the political spectrum, including commies, libertards, peaceniks, alt-rights, a deep sea diver and Tulsi Gabbard!

2:44:15 This would have been funny if you'd recorded this actually. After four long freaking hours of speeches it was just me and Job left for the final march to the White House, and after that long people were cranky! Megaphones arguments a chubby anarchist T-bone my senile potus sign A 70 year old nearly took out Job with his cane It was awesome! Peace out! Sounds like a good time man these no agenda meetups you never know what's gonna happen Let's go to Fishtown. Please deduce them guys and don't give us that Chinese deducer. In the morning, this is Nate from P-Town Love you guys. Thank you for your courage. It's Rob from Brooklyn here the 76ers annual meetup And I do believe This is Lou in the morning to all the douchebags out there donate donate

2:45:19 Hey, it's Suburban Shen. This is Lynn future lady of the Philadelphia Badlands I just want to say hi to Zippy this is Jason having a few beers with some sophisticated people So glad that Wynn introduced me into this and Summer and I truly appreciate you guys And what I learned thank you. This is Kylie Yeah, another big meetup now people when you're sending these file names label them please I forgot now who this is from but here we go Okay, well i'm gonna have to edit that one sorry

2:45:55 This is, I mean if that's not something i can't play out of the box. I took a risk and the same with this one this is from uh things the IndyNA meetup it's a risk let's see what happens. Hi! This is Mark and this is Maria oh yeah these guys know what they're doing from our monthly Indianapolis Meetup hi this is Cindy from Carmel thank you for your courage and I do believe Spooks are back. Hi, this is Julie from Fishers This is my first meetup I won the raffle and I'm no longer a douchebag Hi this is Cyril of The Mable This is a great meetup but don't tell the government about it All our party balloons are made in China Would you like to ride In my beautiful balloon Hey! I think I caught the uptalk this month? This is Emily Go spooks

2:46:41 in the morning. Hey, it's Gary from Greenwood We have a serious situation we need to get up to Lake Huron and I'm getting his search-and-rescue party together to get our $400,000 plus taxpayer money back Who's with me? Scarlet Bee from Chicago! Thanks Indy Tribe! This is Cipfod's father. And Dame Doreen Adele. Risky here, drinking some beers... In the morning to you John and Adam this is Nick Mark is wearing a Hawaiian shirt he's the spook. This Mike from Fort Wayne we've come over to take over the Indie group but were not succeeding very well in the morning. This is Shannon from Fort Wayne visiting Indianapolis everyone here is 33% happier now that we've eaten our daily assessment of kale. In the morning this is Dame Trinity having a great time at Indies

2:47:23 Thank you for your courage. In the morning, John and Adam. It's your PBR Street gang here in Indianapolis having a great time thinking of you. See ya! Jeremy from Napanee Indiana in the morning. Nada from Indianapolis there is a big balloon at the table but no F-22. Anne from Napanee and I'm not taking that balloon home. IN THE MORNING! Man that is such a big group The Indy Meetup That thing is growing And then the Chicago guys and gals are going to come down and join them? That's gonna be off the hook We...that's what we need to do A tri-state meetup. Oh, I'm gonna coordinate this with the keeper. He must have put Michigan 1 in there! That's what i'm saying we throw them all together imagine that meet up All right first one uh the 17th of April that's a the national one We're going to do all right here's what's coming up tomorrow? We've got uh...I Must Be High number eight seven o'clock McSorley's Wonderful Saloon and Grill in Toronto We've got The International Slaves Adunanza

2:48:17 Miami time, 7 o'clock Rakija Lounge Miami Beach Florida Southside Okie City Hui Hui meet up 1 o'clock at Garage Moore off I-35 that's Moore Oklahoma This is all Saturday now. Brews by the Bay, one o'clock at The Guild Warren Beer Hall and Brewery in Warren Rhode Island QCNA two o'clock in Armored Gardens Davenport Iowa on also on Saturday monthly deprogramming meetup two o'clock at Propaganda Place Punta Gorda Florida and the double back barbecue a double Birthday BBQ, 333 at South Winchester Barbecue San Jose California and on Sunday the next show day. The linkage of Amygdala Shrinkage will be noon Eastern at Badson's Beer Company in Derby Connecticut These are the no agenda meetups. No agenda meetups are important They're good for you They give you a sense of community because it is your community everyone's awkward we don't look like this say We don't like I belong together but we love balloons and

2:49:18 You will love being at a No Agenda Meetup. Go try it out, noagendameetups.com They are entirely producer organized no fee It's free to get in free to have fun and remember connection is protection no agenda meetups calm You wanna be where you won't be Triggered or held to blame. You wanna be where everybody feels the same It's like a bomb Are we on time? Wow, done a lot today. Done a lot of talking I'm slicing a little bit but were trying to work on this Ready for us isos? How many ya got? Only two...I don't think im very good I go three, play your two! Ready for the big one

CHAPTER 48 / 52 Discussion

East Asian Birth Rates, Demographic Collapse

A report on the record-low fertility rates in South Korea, Japan, and China. South Korea's rate has dropped to 0.78, leading to concerns about labor shortages and the potential collapse of social support systems in East Asia.

south korea· japan· china· fertility rate· demographics

2:50:12 Thank you very much for your courage. Shit sound I had nothing good sorry that's all I got and I'm unprepared woefully unprepared for this, I'm sorry Okay well let's play minus if there is anything here that is worth a crap Let us start with saga And so the saga continues Huh? Better than anything I got. Yeah, what's your next one? Sexism! Oh... This is blatant sexism That fits a little more with our show And the third one The rain The rain, Ginny is coming back No no this is This is blatant sexism that's us I mean that's who we are I'll let it go I'm good with it and that whole vasectomy segment

2:51:00 That was sexism. Well, I got a clip to follow on the vasectomy segment. I thought people should at least hear this. Okay what do you got? Because they're talking about it here too! Uh-oh This is the clip China S. Korea, Japan birth rates China, Japan and now South Korea all these nations are setting new records for low fertility the demographic issue has become a growing policy concern throughout much of East Asia where shrinking and aging populations are fueling labor shortages fewer than 250 thousand babies were born in South Korea in 2022 Officials say on average a woman now gives birth to 0.78 children in her lifetime that's the lowest fertility rate in the OECD

2:51:45 Policymakers point to a shift in the role of women in South Korean society. Many are waiting both to get married and have children The government is concerned, and it's creating new incentives for couples to expand their families including help to get women back to work post-birth and more affordable housing While South Korea isn't alone in seeing a low birth rate as a threat to its survival Japanese Prime Minister Kishida Fumio says the issue has put Japan's social support system on the verge of collapse and Chinese experts worry it'll put the brakes on Beijing's economic growth. Well this takes me right back to the former New York banker what he said, we win over everybody as long as we have more people in America and the way we do that is just open the borders

2:52:35 That's how you win. That apparently is all that counts, China and Japan South Korea they can't keep up They have no borders to let people into Well there is that Yeah I'm reminded you know one of the things that was in that little laundry list what would maybe help was get women back to work And I think maybe it's just the opposite Because if you look at the elites, the women are... They do a lot but they don't have jobs. Like look what was it? Eunice Kennedy, Robert Kennedy's wife had like eight kids. How many kids did Robert Kennedy have? Yeah something like that The elites are reproducing like that and they don't make their... I mean she does work... The work is raising eight kids along with charity work. This is blatant sexism!

2:53:29 Yeah, there you go. I got my sexism little handle right there. I'm in business You know, um, you know see Mike and see Mike sent me you may have gotten it to we got his Christmas letter And it's pig yet eight kids That's a nine one is in heaven but eight kids now like go see Mike I think that either I agree We should be making our own kids lots of them Yeah, I think and how you have some other stuff if you want to play or well I have something very important to play and it's a warning. It's a warning. It's a warning And as a celebrity in years gone by The washed-up podcast the washed up VJ with Tourette syndrome

CHAPTER 49 / 52 Discussion

Angela Davis Ancestry, Mayflower Discovery

Marxist activist Angela Davis discovers on the PBS show "Finding Your Roots" that she is a descendant of a passenger on the Mayflower. The segment highlights her shock at learning her ancestors were among the founders of the United States.

angela davis· pbs· finding your roots· mayflower· slavery

2:54:21 Back in the day, you know you could ask for stuff. Reality shows all kinds of stuff You know sometimes it's one of those shows where they add you know They'll ask everyone the same 50 questions like and then they package it into a special Like best songs are the 80s! And then you have little blips of little clips of people and other times is a little more long-form show and I want to warn against participating In shows that could surprise you For instance, and I saw this happen in the UK. I think it started in the UK this show And now it's a probably is maybe BBC show that's why PBS has it now here It's called On a second what does it called? It's called find your roots and what they do is though so you're a celebrity and

2:55:12 And then they're going to trace your roots and it always winds up like this. Your ancestors were slave owners! I mean, this is what always happens. Yes, this is true. This guy Gates, this black guy Gates does on PBS... Henry Gates Jr., I think. Henry Gates. It was always everybody who was a slave owner. Well they flipped the script! They flipped the script and here's a snippet of PBS' Finding Your Roots And the celebrity in this case was Angela Davis. Angela Davis, an admitted Marxist. Angela Davis who teaches people about the slavery of our country and how we are horrible people. And here's the payoff... Any idea what you're looking at? That is a list of passengers on the Mayflower

2:56:03 No, I can't believe this. My ancestors did not come here on the Mayflower. Your ancestors came on the Mayflower? You are descended from one of the 101 people who sailed on the Mayflower. That's a little bit too much to deal with right now. Did you ever in your wildest dreams think that you may have descended from people who laid the foundation for this country? Never, never, never. Whoa! You got butt-slammed! I mean that is unbelievable A.) That they do that to her but then they broadcast it

2:56:52 I mean, isn't that just crazy? It is crazy. And what a... how...I mean all the things she said about slavery and her ancestors came over on the Mayflower and participated actively in slavery! Obviously Oh goodness Let this be a warning to all of you celebrities or influencers or whatever you're called out there Influencers Let me see if i had anything else oh yes this is probably worth mentioning I don't know, it may...I think when it comes to an example of if there's a country where everyone can point to and say oh you know they should have listened. They should have stayed in the EU

CHAPTER 50 / 52 Discussion

UK Vegetable Shortage, Lake Effect Snow

The UK faces a significant shortage of tomatoes and other vegetables, which officials attribute to cold weather in Spain and high energy costs for greenhouses. Additionally, a rare "strait effect" snow event is reported in Washington state.

united kingdom· brexit· agriculture· energy crisis· weather

2:57:38 Yeah, that Brexit. Big mistake now you're all gonna die! Yes well in an independent act of frontline journalism your cameraman here Max Simons and myself went to the Tesco's behind us and yes they have no tomatoes and they're blaming adverse weather so what's it all about? Well primarily just that a run of unusually cold weather in southern Spain and North Africa, Tunisia right across to Egypt where at this time of the year the UK can get up to 95% of its requirements for certain lines of vegetables. Smartovirus in North Africa adding into that. Second, the energy crisis we do use growers in The Netherlands quite intensively this time of year they've decided it's too expensive because of electricity prices you don't just have to heat

2:58:20 the greenhouses of course. You have light at these short hours of daylight as well, it's too much they're not doing it then look what the NFU was saying just in its conference last few days that the amount of vegetables that we're growing under glass is at his lowest level certainly some lines Minette batters the NFU leader said since 1985 when records began yes will get better there's a thing called spring coming on British grows will kick-in it is temporary but maybe forgo a few cucumbers tomatoes and some lettuces and peppers for the time being. So basically there's a shortage of fruit and veg in the UK, and people are kind of freaking out

2:58:59 There's no vegetables and the shortage of fruit. Whether they're Brexit-ed out or not is still going to be the shortage Of course not, but that's just being used now Oh you shouldn't have Brexited it You know we have a cold snap out here which is another where's the global warming But up in Port Angeles they've had something which was really cold There was a first, and I never heard of this. And it's never happened before we've had place up there forever straight effect snow straight effect snow? It's like lake effects nobody from the Straits of Juan de Fuca

CHAPTER 51 / 52 Discussion

Laura Barron-Lopez, January 6 Tape Controversy

PBS White House correspondent Laura Barron-Lopez discusses Speaker Kevin McCarthy's decision to grant Tucker Carlson exclusive access to 40,000 hours of January 6 security footage. The segment criticizes the media's "outrage" over the release of the tapes.

laura barron-lopez· pbs· kevin mccarthy· tucker carlson· january 6

2:59:35 which is the northern part, there's that area between Canada and the United States between Port Angeles and Victoria, Canada. That's the Straits of Juan de Fuca and this snow is being formed off the lake just like as you're off the strait it's just like Lake Effect snow and it produces this which I've experienced once when I was in Cleveland by coincidence where they had a Lake Effect snow And they're producing Lake Effect snow in Washington now That's the yeah, oh at least that's what they're calling it. Who knows who knows I just I Just gotta get this one out to have you seen Laura Barone Lopez? No She is the new hot shit reporter at the PBS NewsHour she's probably seen her then Oh man She is she's the total perfect multiculti girl

3:00:35 Yeah, the one you can't identify. Well I mean the name gives it away... Well the name does but you can run into Soledad O'Brien for example is a good example of what is she? Well uh look I think she's Mexican American Laura Barron Lopez She's young she comes from Politico and she really came out of school into Politico now she is I think they're calling her Judy's replacement Which seems a bit odd. Oh, that's the girl... That probably seems... She is the one who does this. She has been doing Judy's replacement job for quite awhile if it is the same person With curly long hair? No, this can't be her Maybe she is replacing someone I am sure its the same one Who else is out What's your name? Oh, I'm sorry! She is the White House correspondent for PBS News Hour Okay The White House correspondent How do you spell it? Baron B-A-R-O-N dash Lopez

3:01:30 Laura Barron Lopez and cute smile. Oh, I've seen this girl Yeah yeah so but she's also a Pundit for CNN and so She's on a roll. Yeah, and you know so here what happened it was a huge upset in journalism land because Kevin McCarthy has given Tucker Carlson 40 thousand hours of January 6 tapes And this of course is an outrage, he didn't give it to the people. No he gave it to Tucker Carlson! Another topic of outrage podcasting Exactly so much Everybody's going on and on about who cares let's see what they come up with Kevin McCarthy is giving Fox's Tucker Carlson access to tens of thousands of hours of January 6th security footage Your tax dollars paid for most of the cameras that captured the scene inside and around the Capitol that day But Speaker McCarthy is granting access only to Carlson and to Fox

3:02:29 Carlson is a frequent McCarthy critic who says the speaker has no ideological core. Carlson also repeatedly spreads conspiracies about the attack, suggesting it was orchestrated somehow by the deep state, the FBI not the pro-Trump mob as we all witnessed. Our reporters are back around the table. Why? Well I think we have to ask you know So this is her. of documentation and evidence showing that Tucker Carlson knew that those were lies about election fraud. Documentation! That he was doing around the 2020 election, still decided to go on air and talk about it uh... and McCarthy knows that and he's deciding to hand it over to someone who is going to filter the message anyway. And so is it? Is it then simply raw politics? But wait there are more people sitting around this table these all high-level correspondents for CNN. Kevin McCarthy

3:03:35 has only a four seat majority. Kevin McCarthy could be recalled essentially by his members at any moment One of his sharpest critics happened to be one the most popular programs among the mega base Mega base! And, Kevin McCarthy is saying Tucker if I give you these tapes stop saying this McCarthy is not especially conservative He's in fact ideologically agnostic First release the January 6th files Not some of the January 6th files and video all of it And there's worse than that. He says he is not really a conservative, he is agnostic, he flaps with the breeze... He has said worse. Is that simply what this is? Maybe if I give this to you, you'll be nice to me? Well, I think he answered all questions yes. Oh, you missed it! Listened to this multi-culti girl giggle in the background and this guy says oh clearly that's a quid pro quo! Worse than that

3:04:26 I mean, he said she's not really a conservative. He's agnostic. He collapsed with the breeze. He has said worse is that simply what this is? Maybe if I give this to you, you'll be nice to me. Well, I think your question is yes. And it seems pretty transparent answer. Yes! There you go people that's why we're here not to bring you outrage but to laugh at stupid people That's why we're really here should we call it a day? No, I think we better okay We have so much work to do, our post-production. Gotta fix all the things we said wrong, gotta edit it out, gotta make you sound a little more ballsy... Takes me hours to do all that stuff! I can get closer to the mic. That'll help. Uhh..we have end of show mixes coming up. Uhh let me see who we have? We've got Maddie J., Mr Information is back Sir Michael Anthony and Steve...no not Steve Jones, we cut him out. Oh Leo Lapuque thats right

CHAPTER 52 / 52 Discussion

Show Outro, Final Credits

The hosts conclude the episode, thanking the producers and the "Troll Room" for their support. They provide a preview of upcoming content on the No Agenda Stream and sign off with their traditional closing remarks.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· post-production· end of show· sign off

3:05:28 Sorry, Steve. You got vetoed. Coming up next on No Agenda Stream we've got Hog Story number 340 Submarine Scorpio is the title of that Fletcher and the crew You can keep listening to noagendastream.com or stay in the troll room with the app that you're at right now, coming to you from the heart of Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region number 6 in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where I remain I am John C. Dvorak we return on Sunday right here with another hours and hours long of your media deconstruction until then adios mofos a hui hui and such

3:06:13 Back in the day, the doctor would say do no harm Now they're sick-sick quick to stick a prick in your arm Be quiet and just try it No need for alarm The real starts to feel like an animal farm See the big wig pigs stay laughing cause They're almost close To replacing cash with drugs No meat for the sheep Just grass and bugs But dogs gotta eat So pass the bone, we're not alone But try to tell that to the drones They'll say that you're crazier than Ye on Jones For rationing gas it's happening fast The time is passing Unmasking this sinister side of high fashion I tried to have compassion To live and let live but refused Till these ghouls stopped pimping the kids Used to booze like Toulouse Said them move on Rouge Now these dudes look like Swayze And too long poo Shoot might be crazy? But i don't think You can change genders and turn 2 a 6 or a 2

3:07:15 Why does the media push sex and violence? Why do they deride the humanity inside us And hide us from the truth with the news Shit is ruthless, produce clueless humans Who conclude meditation is useless But you never met a Buddhist that would shoot kids Medication students on computers Losing to youth, kid Snapchatting noobs Reducing the potential of their future Dropping faster than team ballers Getting boosters, psych meds Living life through a screen. Fat tweens on Xanibars and vaccines, TikTok thoughts dance big tech schemes The long term effects remain to be seen What's up New York City? This is your Mayor! Up on Staten Island where we just had a visit from Florida Governor Warren DeSantis And you know I had to throw some shade on Twitter Well Governor, I hope you enjoyed your visit to New York City A place where our school libraries is rated x

3:08:13 A place where everybody is either a victim or an oppressor. A place where we invite all immigrants and then complain when they show up. A place where a human being ain't nothing but a clump of cells So you going back down to Florida now, ya heard? Alright New York City I'mma see y'all later Stay woke! And I'll say that there are no major plot twists waiting for you. We are now hearing from someone who was inside the grand jury that investigated the election crimes of Donald Trump That's not the way i expected this to go at all! Potentially, it might? That was really cool for me Yes

3:09:08 I would say that. I don't think they're any like... Especially if they've been following the investigation? I am sure! That might have been what he meant? Totally! That was pretty much that, haha Oh okay we're good bye They are doing Satan worship right in front of her throwing it in their face?! Yes At the beginning, they come from the sky. She is at the top of the pyramid in the red dress she is the Red Queen everyone knows this is the Red Queen this is the devil yeah she's pregnant with the Antichrist of course. The throne you didn't see that? Well let me break it down for you because I saw right away. So you think...

3:09:51 dress Sam Smith Rihanna heaven forbid everybody's in red she stole the Illuminati triangle Satan worship wait a minute Illuminati bullcrap it was just dumb I mean like i said, I just thought it was lousy but It was boring. That's what I have, that's what i watch for This is what you watch for and this is why everyone thinks your great This is all Satan worship Right in front of an NFL audience All symbolic all ritual Of 180 million or something worldwide Once again she's pregnant with the Antichrist No it's possible The Antichrist is coming With the evidence to prove it That was a eye roller Just look at him You know... It's obvious Yeah I think your probably right The Queen is here to tell us

3:10:37 The best podcast in the universe! This is blatant sexism.