Episode 1511 · Sunday, 11 December 2022

SEERS

Global power shifts as China eyes Saudi oil in Yuan while the Twitter Files expose the internal mechanics of Silicon Valley shadow banning and political suppression.

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Chinese leader Xi Jinping secured a historic diplomatic pivot in Riyadh this week, meeting with Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman to finalize $30 billion in technology and security agreements. The summit signaled a potential collapse of the decades-old petrodollar system as the two nations discussed settling oil and gas trades in Chinese Yuan. This strategic realignment follows the Biden administration’s decision to grant the Crown Prince immunity in the Jamal Khashoggi lawsuit, marking a stark shift in Middle Eastern power dynamics.

Domestic scandals continue to plague the Department of Energy as Deputy Assistant Secretary Sam Brinton faces felony warrants for luggage theft at airports in Las Vegas and Minneapolis. In the wake of the Brittney Griner and Viktor Bout prisoner swap, former DEA agent Rob Zachariasiewicz warned that trading a prolific arms dealer for a civilian encourages global hostage diplomacy. Meanwhile, Paul Whelan remains in a Russian labor camp on espionage charges, with his brother David Whelan questioning the State Department's negotiation strategy. Internal documents released via the Twitter Files reveal that Bari Weiss and Michael Shellenberger are uncovering the mechanisms of visibility filtering and the permanent suspension of Donald Trump.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak analyze the Netflix debut of Harry and Meghan, noting the Duchess’s media strategy mirrors the public relations maneuvers of Princess Diana. The show acknowledges the elevation of DH Slammer to the rank of Viscount and celebrates new Knights including Sir Bohemian Butcher. A satirical COVID-Vax Hero anthem closes the session, mocking the persistent push for bivalent boosters and the return of indoor masking advisories in New York City.


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CHAPTER 01 / 40 Discussion

Gully Washer Rain, Northern Silicon Valley Weather

John C. Dvorak reports a "gully washer" rainstorm in Northern Silicon Valley, marking the first significant rainfall in the region in decades. Adam Curry broadcasts from the Texas Hill Country in FEMA Region 6. The hosts discuss the term "gully washer" and its descriptive power for heavy rain that cleans the streets.

gully washer· silicon valley· texas hill country· weather· rain· fema region 6

00:00 It was disgusting. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. Sunday, December 11th, 2022. This is your award-winning Gilmore Nation Media Assassination Episode 1511. This is no agenda. Clutching my luggage and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA Region Number 6 in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we finally had a gully washer. I'm John C. Dvorak. Okay, writing that down as a show title already, a gully washer. A gully washer. We have not heard of a gully washer in at least 30 years. We haven't had one for 30 years. She had good rain, I take it. That was good. It was a gully washer. A gully washer. Gully washer rain. It cleaned the streets. It cleaned the roads. Nice.

CHAPTER 02 / 40 Discussion

Sam Brinton, Department of Energy Luggage Theft Charges

Sam Brinton, a Deputy Assistant Secretary in the Biden administration's Department of Energy, faces felony warrants for allegedly stealing luggage at Harry Reid International Airport in Las Vegas and Minneapolis-St. Paul Airport. The hosts discuss Brinton's role in nuclear waste management and speculate on the psychological motivations behind the thefts. Video evidence reportedly shows Brinton removing tags from high-end luggage.

sam brinton· department of energy· luggage theft· harry reid international airport· biden administration

00:53 I'm clutching my luggage John because the funniest story just you can't make this up when it comes to our biggest problems in the United States and around the world. It's energy. It's how are we going to afford energy? Do we, you know, if we go to nuclear energy, we need smart people who can, you know, store the older systems so we can bring in the newer systems, the older waste. And, uh, but the guy who's responsible for that in the US government is just, he's got like some major brain damage. Which brain damaged person is this we're talking about? Well, this is the guy, Britton, who was arrested for stealing luggage. Oh, Britton. For stealing luggage. Oh, by the way, you know, he was caught twice doing this it turns out.

01:37 An Energy Department official is accused of stealing luggage from Harry Reid International Airport. The 8 News Now investigators learning a felony warrant has been issued for Sam Britton, a Deputy Assistant Secretary in the Biden administration. Now he's accused of a similar crime in the Minneapolis-St. Paul Airport. This is a developing story. The guy is clearly insane. This is a mental deficiency. I have to assume, because first he was busted by stealing that really high-end piece of $2,300 luggage in Minneapolis and taking the tag off while being videotaped. Same thing, I believe. And then he got caught in McCarran. The McCarran thing was earlier, it turns out. Oh, I didn't realize that. Okay. But what's interesting is you have to now assume that he's been doing this most of his life.

02:27 I was talking with Tina about this and I said, you know, you'd be surprised. She's also worked at retail so she has experience. It's often really well-to-do people who shoplift and steal things like this, who really have, you know, their life is actually too easy. You see very affluent women will shoplift the stupidest things, but this guy, I think he just likes some kind of pain. He clearly likes being into bondage and dressing up like dogs or whatever he was into, and then trying to worm into some lady's girdle. This is mental. Oh yeah. How many more? But he's in charge of nuclear waste.

03:14 Well, he's kind of a waste himself. Well, clearly he wasn't. He just wasn't in... this was just a totally bull crap thing. He wasn't really... So I'm thinking, because when I heard about him stealing from McCarran, when I've gone in and out of these airports and seen these luggage things going around and around and then they, you know, after there's Everyone's gone. There's a bunch of them. They're taken off by somebody comes and takes them off and puts them someplace because there's guy didn't pick them up or whatever you've noticed this It's so it would be so easy to just walk off in any random luggage

CHAPTER 03 / 40 Discussion

Airport Luggage Security, Yellow Duct Tape Travel Tips

A personal anecdote describes the loss of a $1,500 Tumi suitcase that was accidentally taken by another passenger with an identical bag. The discussion highlights the lack of security at airport baggage claims and suggests using distinctive markings like yellow duct tape or pink scarves to prevent theft. Proposals for mechanized bag-check systems are dismissed due to potential costs for airlines and airports.

airport security· luggage theft· tumi· travel tips· facial recognition

03:52 It seems to me I've always felt this way. I've always felt it was one of the most insecure parts of the airport. Why would they do this? Just make a pot. It's basically a pile of bags. Take what you want. You probably won't remember what happened to me twice when I was flying back and forth between London and San Francisco. As a part of my compensation package, I can't remember how it happened, but I had negotiated a 2Mee suitcase. A $1,500 2Mee suitcase because I was traveling with my whole life back and forth every couple of weeks. And twice, twice, someone else with the identical to me suitcase, which is not one you see all the time, picked mine up and then walked right out and got all the way home before they realized, oh, you know, there are other people with the same suitcase. And one of them even said, oh, well, yeah, OK, well, you know, you can pick it up tomorrow. So what? I have your suitcase. I don't remember. It's funny, though. Yeah, it happened. Happened. That's why I always tell people who are traveling, travel tip.

04:58 Yellow duct tape, big X on the bag. You're that guy. I'm that guy. Jay's done it too. She puts a big, big, uh, some art on the bag, but it's very distinctive. Tina puts, you know, like a, like a pink scarf or something and yeah, oh yeah. Oh yeah. Tight. Yeah. You know, but you're the guy with the yellow X. The big yellow X, believe me is a winner. Well, you're the guy who took my yellow X-Bag. Seems unlikely. Well, I've always felt it was insecure and although they obviously have cameras around, but...

05:39 Facial recognition is still not what it is. And if you're wearing these, I would say a double mask, a mask and a hat, and you get off the plane, you put your mask on because of COVID, and you put a hat on, can you grab any bag? They're not ever going to, unless they catch you as you leave, which they won't, because no one's, I've never seen any evidence that they do. I think it's ripe for theft. I'm stunned that they're so weak about the security of those bags. What do you suggest? Professor Dvorak, what can you do? Well, they can have some system that is more mechanized where the bags have a tag with a number on it. They could, you know, and it's in

06:20 numerical order, they can, as the bags come off, some, you know, somebody should be taking the bags aside and putting them in a room where you have to go up with your tag, say, here's my tag, like you do with a coat check, you can do it with coats at a theater, you can do it with coats at a restaurant, why can't you do it with these bags? The bags are loaded with valuables, the coats at the theater and restaurant usually aren't. And they could do it there. No, that's an interesting point. I think it's because of course there's no way to charge people for that service and the airports are not going to charge their customers, which are the airlines, not going to charge them more for it. That's probably just a cost thing. But I agree, you're right. It's a good point. We're tracking everything else about everybody.

07:03 You know what? Because they don't care. There it is. We're done. We're done. We delivered you. Here's your bag. Bye. That's it. Bye. That's exactly what it is. They don't care. You don't get the bag when it comes out of the chute. It's your fault. Yeah, they don't care. They just don't care. Could have figured that one out. Back to energy though, not about nuclear energy. There's there's stuff going on that I think is being poorly reported and With that I mean with that I mean if I get that if I have to get the story from the money, honey on Fox Business It's being poorly reported

CHAPTER 04 / 40 Discussion

Xi Jinping, Saudi Arabia Oil Trade, Petrodollar Decline

Chinese leader Xi Jinping met with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman to discuss purchasing oil and gas using the Chinese Yuan instead of the US Dollar. General Jack Keane comments on the strategic shift and the perceived vacuum in the Middle East created by Biden administration policies. The meeting signifies a potential move away from the traditional petrodollar system established after World War II.

xi jinping· mohammed bin salman· saudi arabia· petrodollar· chinese yuan

07:42 And here she is. Welcome back Chinese dictator Xi Jinping just back from what he is calling a milestone meeting with Saudi Prince Mohammed bin Salman after telling Arab leaders on Friday that he wants to buy oil and gas with the Chinese Yuan instead of the US dollar, furthering his goal to internationalize the Chinese currency and replace the dollar as the reserve currency of the world. So right after our president goes there and you know with clutching hands like oh man can you help us a little bit. But this is I don't understand the whole deal of the petrodollar is you guys always sell it in dollars and we'll protect you. Yeah. And so when did that break? When Biden became president and started threatening them. Here's why I have a follow-up.

08:34 From this is Who is this? This is a four-star general Jack Keane, of course when it comes to energy You might as well bring in a general which means there's a lot more behind this I mean that's really that's really who they went to find to comment on this is the is a general Tell me the significance of this meeting. He's the money honey spook. Oh, there you go. And the significance of him now talking more about buying oil and gas from the Saudis with the Chinese Yuan. Yeah, well first of all, President Xi was always going to have a relationship with Saudi Arabia and the Middle East. He's completely dependent on Persian Gulf oil, 62%. And he's the world's largest importer of oil writ large. But what is actually happening here, because the

09:22 Biden administration's missteps with Saudi Arabia and the Arabs in general and going immediately to appease Iran at the beginning of the administration. The Chinese clearly recognize that there's a vacuum here and they want to fill it. And the Arabs also recognize that they're not sure the United States is going to be there for them as they have been in the past. This is a relationship that goes all the way back to Franklin Delano Roosevelt at the end of World War II. And we've always had issues with Arabs' human rights and the differences with the United States, but our national security took precedence. What we're seeing here, Maria, President Xi met with the regional leaders of the entire Middle East and North Africa, some 20-something nations. This is a slight paradigm shift that's beginning to take place here, and it has strategic significance that a lot of the media... It's just slight.

10:15 is since July of 2017 because this relationship between the United States and the Arab world is tarnished. I have one recommendation here for the administration. Work with the incoming Prime Minister of Israel, Prime Minister Netanyahu, who wants to strengthen and expand the Abraham Accords. That means relationship with Arabs and Israelis. Work with him and have him help you renew the relationship with the Arabs.

CHAPTER 05 / 40 Discussion

China-Saudi Relations, Jamal Khashoggi Immunity, Diplomatic Shifts

Saudi Arabia provided a lavish welcome for Xi Jinping, contrasting with the muted reception for President Joe Biden earlier in the year. Reports indicate $30 billion in agreements were signed, focusing on technology and regional security. Meanwhile, a US judge dismissed a lawsuit against Mohammed bin Salman regarding the murder of Jamal Khashoggi, citing immunity granted by the Biden administration.

xi jinping· mbs· jamal khashoggi· joe biden· ntd news

11:01 This is uh... That ain't gonna work. It's not good. I have some clips on this. Good, good, good. And actually these clips are... they go back and... it has been covered a little bit, but it's always been like, well like NTD, which would definitely be covering. But let's play... I have three clips. This is China moving in on the Saudis, clip one. Chinese leader Xi Jinping arrived in Saudi Arabia today. He will attend meetings that could result in billions of dollars invested in the country. NTD's Daniel Monahan has the story. Saudi Arabia aims to increase trade with Beijing and discuss regional security when China's leader visits Riyadh this week.

11:41 The kingdom seeks to expand superpower ties beyond the increasingly fractious alliance with the United States. Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman is expected to mark Xi Jinping's arrival on Wednesday with a lavish welcome. Diplomats in the region say such a welcome may contrast starkly with the muted reception offered to US President Joe Biden in July. The world's biggest oil exporter is reshaping its foreign policy to reflect the new realities of global power. This as it perceives American disengagement from the Middle East and the US administration's direct talk about human rights. Besides rolling out the red carpet for bilateral meetings with Xi during his two-day visit, the Saudi rulers will also convene fellow Gulf leaders for a summit with him. The United States has expressed concerns about growing Chinese involvement in sensitive infrastructure projects in the Gulf.

12:31 For decades, the US has ensured Saudi Arabia's security and remains its main defense supplier. Crown Prince Mohammed, better known as MBS, has resisted previous US efforts to constrain Saudi action. This includes its war in Yemen, and it appeared to welcome the reportedly transactional approach of former US President Donald Trump. Oh my goodness. It's over. Well, part two of this is funny because they talk about how Even though Biden, when Biden did go over there and he has all these excuses for going there and wasn't necessarily to get the price of oil down or price of gasoline in this case down. He was hated obviously. If you listen to part two of this, the ceremonial aspect of it was, you know, they gave pomp and circumstance to the Chinese guy and they didn't do any of that for Biden. When Trump came

13:28 In Saudi Arabia in 2017, MBS demonstrated the warmth of their relations with an extravagant welcome ceremony that the diplomat said was expected to resemble what he will offer Xi. Trump left Riyadh with more than $100 billion in defense contracts. The Chinese delegation this week is expected to sign agreements worth $30 billion with Saudi Arabia. China sees Saudi Arabia as its key ally in the Middle East due not only to its oil exports but also a shared suspicion of Western interference, especially on issues such as human rights. Meanwhile, a federal judge in Washington dismissed a lawsuit against Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman on December 6th for the 2018 alleged murder of Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi. The judge cited President Joe Biden's granting of immunity. Joe Biden, as a presidential candidate, had said his plan was to make the Saudis pay the price for the alleged murder and make them, in fact, the pariah that they are.

14:25 Right, and so it didn't really work out when he said, hey man I grant you immunity. Sand over it. We're all good. Didn't work. They forgot that he had just called him a horrible dude. Yeah, well, he doesn't remember that probably. But here's the Saudi, this is a different clip, this is the last clip. This is a Saudi China update. I think I got this yesterday. Across the Persian Gulf, China's President Xi Jinping held high profile meetings today with Saudi Arabia's rulers in a visit being watched in Washington. Xi was taken through the Royal Palace in Riyadh by the Crown Prince. They signed technology and other agreements and rejected criticism of their human rights records.

CHAPTER 06 / 40 Discussion

European Energy Crisis, Emmanuel Macron, Gas Price Caps

French President Emmanuel Macron urged citizens to stop spreading panic regarding potential winter blackouts as France deals with the shutdown of 20 nuclear reactors. In the European Union, six countries including Germany and the Netherlands warned against lowering the gas price cap, fearing it would trigger higher prices. Australia is also attempting to cap coal and gas prices despite historical failures of such policies.

emmanuel macron· ursula von der leyen· energy crisis· nuclear reactors· gas price cap

15:08 The two of them. These two guys get together. You're doing human rights. No, screw that bullcrap. This has got to be on purpose. I mean, no one is this stupid. No one. No one. This has to be purposeful. We're tanking something or everything. And the same is happening in Europe. You know, this is just a list of stories in the show notes, which is well worth checking out. You can also search them at bingit.io. So Macron, he's pissed off. He's like, stop spreading panic about potential blackouts in French then. Stop spreading panic!

15:49 And the reason why is because all these telecommunications services and electricity providers are saying, hey, we may have blackouts. Make sure that you've got backups for your telecom networks, for your emergency call services. So, you know, Macron is just doing wishful thinking, probably. And they've actually been shutting down their reactors. They used to have 56 nuclear reactors. They're now down to 36. I didn't know they had that. They had 56? Oh, yeah. Well, I know they had a lot because their whole country is powered by nukes. But I didn't know that they shut down 20. Of course, that's what you have to do. What a bunch of dumb shits. And then, and so, you know, the Queen Ursula's whole idea of the cap on dirty Russian oil and gas.

16:40 Yeah, well that's not sitting very well. Six European Union countries, including Germany and the Netherlands, have warned that they cannot accept other member states' attempts to lower the level at which the bloc will cap gas prices. Like, no, no, no, we can't do this. We're concerned by the lowering of the figures. It said, the figures of the gas price cap ceiling and the triggers cannot be lowered any further. They say, in fact, if you lower it any further, it's going to trigger prices going up. So this is a cluster F of epic proportions. It's crazy. Australia's trying to do the same thing, capping coal and gas prices. Why do they think this will work? Because it's never worked in the past, so it must work this time. It's never worked in the past, so this is going to be the charm. The 10th time's the charm. And then, so just to add to this, Putin on the other side,

CHAPTER 07 / 40 Discussion

Vladimir Putin, Ukraine Conflict Negotiations, NATO Expansion

Vladimir Putin expressed a willingness to negotiate an end to the Ukraine conflict during an economic forum in Bishkek, though he emphasized a lack of trust in Western leaders. The discussion references the historical "non-deal" involving James Baker and the promise that NATO would not expand eastward. Putin also addressed reports of poorly equipped conscripts and threatened to reduce oil production in response to G7 price caps.

vladimir putin· ukraine war· nato· james baker· bishkek

17:39 He's saying, you know, we really need to reach an agreement here to end the Ukraine conflict. He's now pretty much saying it out in the open and he has a little threat attached to it. President Putin was attending an economic forum in the Kyrgyz capital Bishkek. He said he would be willing to negotiate a deal in Ukraine but that he didn't trust Western leaders. Still, in the end, it will be necessary to talk. I have said many times that we are ready for agreements, we are open, but this makes us think, of course, think about who we are dealing with. He was also asked about conscription and reports poorly equipped recruits were being thrown into the front line. I should say that there were problems and, judging by what you say, they still remain, although they assure me that

18:29 there are fewer and fewer of them and they are less acute than before. As for the G7's oil... This is Turkish radio and television, TRT. It's pro-Russia, of course. The price cap imposed on Russia... Even though they're in NATO! ...oil imports this week, a threat to cut production. I've already said that we simply will not sell to those countries that make such decisions, we will think. Maybe even, I'm not saying that this is a decision, but we will think. about a possible reduction in production. There you go. This is crazy. So the interesting thing about that clip was the commentary at the beginning where he says and he makes a big fuss about it, I don't trust, I would love to negotiate and the end is right now but I don't trust Western leaders. And this is just a, you know, the long

19:23 long thinking, long arc of the James Baker... Deal. Non-deal. Deal. It was a deal. The deal James Baker did, our guy, not the current James Baker, but the guy who was in the State Department. And there's a lot of James Bakers. It's kind of irritating. And they're all dicks. That's what's interesting. Maybe, it could be. Whatever the case is, that James Baker said to Putin, don't worry about it. Once, you know, when the Russian started throwing away the Soviet Union, it fell apart and they just started

19:58 spinning off these countries. Don't worry about it, NATO's not going to move an inch towards you. And it kept moving an inch towards him and then they finally called him out on it and they said, I don't know, oh yeah he said that but it wasn't in writing. It wasn't in writing, so it doesn't count. That's what we said to them. I know, we're dicks. It seems more, now, you want some ultimate propaganda? This is well done and of course it slips through on RT. So we exchanged Brittany Griner for Victor Bout. Is it Bout? I have a clip first that I want to play for you. No, I was gonna say I have a bunch of stuff about this.

CHAPTER 08 / 40 Discussion

Viktor Bout, RT Interview, US-Russia Cultural Similarities

Following his release in exchange for Brittney Griner, Viktor Bout appeared on RT to discuss his experiences in American prison. Bout claimed that rural Americans and Russians share common values, such as family and religion, and blamed political elites for international conflicts. He characterized the United States as a declining industrial power suffering from deindustrialization and crime.

viktor bout· rt· brittney griner· prisoner exchange· propaganda

20:41 About this situation, but anyway go on But go on there you go. Thank you Cara. I'm gonna Okay, I realize that this annoys you so much. I'm gonna stop doing it, but unlike you Yes, you can't you don't have the skill no I can I can So unlike you I can't do it. I can't stop dead in my tracks, which I I've said it before in this show I admire. Thank you Is it boot or bout? How would we pronounce Victor's boot? It's pronounced boot boot So he goes on RT fresh back from from the exchange and throws out a massive sigh up towards the American people You know, in fact I'm knowing many inmates I figure out who sharing way more common America is

21:34 very much similar. Look, it's the same size, they have a... It's the same kind of this and when you talk to them there is nothing there even to biff about. We are naturally, you know, born not to be enemies. And whenever there's conflict, it's elites. You know, every, you know, American I met in the prison who is from rural area was very easy to deal with. He has no problem with Russia and he was curious about Russia despite all propaganda. They're losing their Christian values. They're losing their families. They're losing literally their countries. It's not anymore the same country. We knew America who used to be a model for entire world and lead and be an example, you know, like they say, a shiny town on the, you know, sparkling town on a hill. And this is of course pity.

22:29 It was a strong country who was really a, you know, industrial mind, you know, this one. And look, for 30, 40 years, deindustrialization, drug problem, crime, waste, you can understand. And I feel more empathy to American after this experience than I would feel any hate. And that's, I've always said this. Russians and Americans have much more in common. Then the only thing that sucks is our elites are all douches, but the people are so similar. I'm 100% in agreement with this thesis and I've... It was Nixon that really created the...

CHAPTER 09 / 40 Discussion

Paul Whelan, Espionage Charges, Multiple Passports

Paul Whelan remains in Russian custody on espionage charges after being excluded from the Brittney Griner prisoner swap. The hosts examine Whelan's background, including his bad conduct discharge from the Marines and his possession of four passports (US, Canada, UK, Ireland). His twin brother, David Whelan, is noted for his calm, geopolitical tone during media interviews, leading to speculation about their potential ties to intelligence agencies.

paul whelan· david whelan· marines· espionage· passports

23:17 Well, actually Stalin didn't help things and then cop stealing our bombs and stuff and yeah, that's always stuff that goes on I'm sure but yeah, it's minor compared to people. We don't hate Russians Russians don't hate us No people the people are pretty similar. Yeah. Yeah, you had more on this you said I have stuff about Waylon. Okay, and So they had this guy that they were gonna do the trade with, and I have one killer clip that I'm expecting to get some recognition for. Because when I discovered this one, I went, oh my, this isn't good. So this Whelan character, you got David Whelan and then the guy that was, who's the guy that's in prison? Paul, Paul Whelan, Paul, Paul. Paul and David, and I don't know if you know it, it's only mentioned once in a while, but they're identical twins.

24:11 No. Yeah. Interesting. I did not know this. Now Paul Whelan, who is, it seems to me when I saw David Whelan, I said, oh, this guy, he's got the gray hair, he's got the pressed shirt, which is my new way of putting it. JC puts it this way now. Pressed shirt, gray hair, spook. And he sounds, and there's an interview with him here, and it's on PBS. He doesn't sound like a normal guy whose twin brother is in jail. He's very magnanimous. He's geopolitical in the way he speaks. He sounds like a spook himself, and it could be both. But Paul is an interesting character because he can't be a spook, they say, and this is a good one. This is the cover story. He was kicked out, drummed out of the Marines. Yes, a bad conduct discharge.

25:07 Yeah, he was discharged for bad conduct and he had for kiting checks and using phony social security numbers and some other bogus. It seems very sketchy what he did to get drummed out of the Marines to go right into business as a security specialist. IT security specialists to be specific. Yeah, it doesn't make sense. So but and but the litany is oh well he can't be in the CIA. Because if you get drummed out of the Marines, you can't get into the CIA. Come on, come on. That's bullcrap. They let everybody in. Hey, you got a link, you're good. So the other thing is, Paul, he has, and I don't even, CIA, Nazi, I don't understand this one at all. He has four legitimate passports.

26:00 Now why does anybody have four passports? He's got a passport, he was born in Canada so he's got a Canadian passport, he's a dual citizen of the United States, he's got a United States passport, and for some reason he's got a UK passport and an Irish passport. Spook! Come on. So the Russians are keeping him and supposedly he was caught with papers because he went to Russia, he was going in and out of Russia. I guess working for Borg Warner as a security specialist and he's going in and out of Russia a lot for reasons unknown. No one knew why he was going back and forth and back and forth so much and then he was lured in for this last time

26:41 For a wedding to go to a fellow Marines wedding who is getting married in Russia? What? You know what kills me about this whole situation? He's doing interviews. What kind of jail is he in where he's on the phone with Fox and other doing interviews? I don't understand. Is he under house arrest? The only interviews I've seen is with David. And I have a bunch of these and I want to go over them. And this is David Whalen. This is his twin brother. Now, you have to see how this... Listen to this carefully. You tell me that this is the way any normal person would react if they felt that they had their brother, especially an identical twin brother, rotting in a Russian jail for no apparent reason.

CHAPTER 10 / 40 Discussion

David Whelan, Brittney Griner Swap Reaction, Spy Trade Rumors

David Whelan publicly supported the Biden administration's decision to bring Brittney Griner home, despite his brother Paul being left behind. Reports suggest Russia demanded the release of a specific spy in US custody in exchange for Paul Whelan, a detail the State Department has avoided confirming. The term "wrongfully detained" is highlighted as a specific legal code used by the US government for Griner but not initially for others.

david whelan· brittney griner· prisoner swap· espionage· blinken

27:34 So let's hear David Whelan, part one. David Whelan is Paul's brother. What's your response to Brittany Griner's release? It's great news. Anytime an American comes home from a wrongful detention, it's a great day. And yet I can imagine it's so difficult. to see Brittany released and Paul not released. It is. And we are grateful to the White House for the trust that they showed us yesterday. They let us know in advance that this was coming so that my sister, my brother and our parents could process this in private, essentially, and and try to come to terms with the bitter side of the bittersweet moment. So he's using the quote, the buzzword wrongful detention. Yeah. Which it wasn't.

28:20 About Britney. Never mentioned his brother's wrongfully detained. There's also another guy that was in this mix I can't I don't have his name in front of me, but he was busted for cannabis also and he looks like a spook more or less and and there was some discussion about why isn't he wrongfully did he worked for the State Department in one of the embassies doing translations or or no he's teaching English or something like that and he was another great cover English as a second language teacher uh-huh so he was supposedly busted for cannabis, but they can't say that he was wrongfully detained. So there's some idiosyncratic reason that the State Department uses the term wrongfully detained only with Brittany. I think it's because she's a civilian and she was the only, the rest of these people are, you know...

29:16 They're not, you know, they're not civilians as it were. Just on that, just a side note, I received a kind of odd message from someone and said the true reason that Greiner was arrested at the airport is because on the plane she let a 15 year old hit her weed vape. That's a story we haven't heard. I can't find it corroborated but it's possible. It is possible. So let's go to David Witt. These are short, pretty short clips, except for the last one, but this clip too. But today, some Republicans criticized the swap. Senate Foreign Relations Committee ranking Republican James Risch said Paul Whelan should have been part of this deal. And expected next House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Texas Republican Mike McCaul said trading Victor Boot will only embolden Vladimir Putin to continue his evil practice of taking innocent Americans hostage.

30:08 But David Whelan says the Biden administration made the right call. It seems that they had come to an impasse and whoever it is in Russia was not going to make a good faith deal. That would include Paul. If the Biden administration had continued to wait, then they would have been prolonging Brittany Griner's detention for no good reason. So, I mean, again, it's not great for Paul and it's not what our family would have chosen. But it's the right thing for an American president to do for an American citizen who is wrongfully detained. Okay, well that's that's very nice of you even though you should be kind of pissed about it all yeah I find this would be peculiar listening to this guy Part three and if it means exchanging a 50 year old arms dealer who's been in US custody for you know more than a decade

30:53 I think that the harm is not as substantial as people are worried about. Do you fear that the price that the administration paid for Britney Griner raises the price for what they would have to do to release your brother? No, I think for each of these cases, whether it's in Russia or Iran or Syria or China, each of these cases has its own requirements. And so I'm not sure that the requirements for Paul's case have changed at all. And I don't think that the Russian government would necessarily expect more. They obviously have certain things that they are hoping to get as a concession from the U.S. government, and they haven't gotten it yet. And the U.S. vows to bring Whelan home. Sadly, for totally illegitimate reasons, Russia is treating Paul's case differently than Brittany's.

31:34 And while we have not yet succeeded in securing Paul's release, we are not giving up. We will never give up. Whelan told us today the Russians were asking for a spy in U.S. custody to trade for Paul Whelan, who was convicted of espionage. Ooh, here's a thought. What if Brittany Greiner was passing on information? What if she—I mean, she's perfect for today's CIA. You've got to have anxiety, you've got to be BIPOC, you've got to be gender fluid. I think that's a good point. I think that before he made that point, the last little comment that was made in that clip... Illegally detained? No, no, no. Wrongfully, by the way. Wrongfully, right. That's the code. No, that they want another spy in play and we don't know who it is. And these guys never bring it up on this show. And when they bring Blinken on later, he never... He just kind of skirts and says, well, we can't talk about it.

32:37 Listen to the very end again, there's a spy that the Russians want. Hold on a second, let me listen to that again. ...reasons Russia is treating Paul's case... I'm gonna go back a little bit here. The US... No, no, no. What? No, no further back. Sadly, for totally illegitimate reasons, Russia is treating Paul's case differently than Brittany's. And while we have not yet succeeded in securing Paul's release, we are not giving up. We will never give up. Whelan told us today the Russians were asking for a spy in U.S. custody to trade for Paul Whelan, who was convicted of espionage.

33:15 He said illegally, by the way, not wrongfully. So he fucked that up. Yeah, well, he's an idiot. He's not... He knows... They're probably pulling their hair out of their head, because wrongfully is the term. It's okay. I heard it. I heard the spy. Yes. They never mention who it is. They don't even go into it. And they try to get it out of Blinken, who comes on later. And Blinken... Can't talk about that. And it's very poorly reported. But then they bring a new guy on. And this is the cook number five. Wait, what happened to four? Oh yeah this is clip four. For more on the man traded for Brittany Griner we turn to Rob Zaharia-Shevitz. He was the lead agent in the Drug Enforcement Administration who initiated the investigation of Victor Boot and saw it through to his conviction. Rob Zaharia-Shevitz welcome to the NewsHour. Do you think that trading Victor Boot... Stop me for a second so I can... I gotta throw this in. This is a guy who was responsible for the lead investigator to get this guy arrested and thrown in jail.

CHAPTER 11 / 40 Discussion

Rob Zachariasiewicz, DEA Investigation, Viktor Bout Threat

Former DEA agent Rob Zachariasiewicz, who led the investigation into Viktor Bout, criticized the prisoner exchange as a threat to national security. He argues that trading a high-level arms dealer for a civilian makes Americans worldwide targets for "hostage diplomacy." Zachariasiewicz describes Bout's unique ability to deliver Soviet-era military hardware to conflict zones, a life story that inspired the film "Lord of War."

rob zachariasiewicz· dea· viktor bout· lord of war· arms dealing

34:17 And he's been all over the news everywhere talking about bitching about this whole thing. And he's more like the normal guy that would be irked about the situation as opposed to David the brother who just seems like a government guy. Yeah, no kidding. It was just ridiculous to listen to him and now you listen to a guy who's pissed, who who was irked about this whole thing because it was a lot of work that he said is down the drain but here we go. I'm gonna start it over just to get it all back. For more on the man traded for Brittany Greiner we turn to Rob Zaharia-Shevitz. He was the lead agent in the Drug Enforcement Administration who initiated the investigation of Victor Boot and saw it through to his conviction. Rob Zaharia-Shevitz welcome to the NewsHour. Do you think that trading

35:04 Victor Boot for Brittany Griner was in the interest of the United States? Well, I don't think it's in the interest of the United States, but I'll start by saying what I've said many times before. I have nothing but well wishes for the family, and I'm very happy for them that they're reunited with their loved one. That said, I think that there's some very negative national security implications from such an ill-fated trade. And the first of those implications, I think, is American citizens throughout the world just got made a commodity and have a bullseye put on them. I truly believe that we just sent the message that it is good business to have an American citizen in your pocket through a false detention or a kidnapping because they may be needed for a trade someday. And it's a nice equity to have. Wow. Again, with the false. Hmm.

35:58 Yeah, they're pounding that one. Pounding it hard, baby. They're pounding it hard. This guy's good though. Let's go to, I got two more clips from him. Here we go, it's five. And the second reason is I think that it greatly tarnishes our rule of law, which is one of our strongest assets that we have worldwide. And I think that By engaging in this type of negotiation, I think that we reduced a judicial jury verdict into a political stunt much in the same way that Moscow has treated Miss Greiner. On that first point that you made, that it increases the chances of hostage diplomacy, the administration says it has taken steps to deter other governments from taking Americans wrongfully, including new authorities, new possibilities of sanctions, and calling out other governments from taking Americans hostage. Do you think that's enough?

36:56 I don't. I think that those are all nice points to make, I think, through years of sanctions in Venezuela and now. Russia through the Ukrainian conflict, we can see the effect that sanctions have and how they can be controverted and outlived. And I think it just defies all common sense and logic. It's right out of the playbook of organizations like Hezbollah and others that this is good business. Wait, now it's Hezbollah's playbook? Everyone has a playbook. It's Iran's playbook, it's Hezbollah's playbook. Did he say rule of law?

37:33 Who is this guy? Who is this guy? He's not... he's a... Well, here he goes. He's gonna finish off and then I have my kicker clip. How do you think this trade will impact the US's ability to work with governments overseas to pursue criminals? I think it really hurt our stance in the world and I think it's gonna be very hard to take the United States at face value moving forward after some of these trades. We make incredible partnerships with law enforcement throughout the world and cases and investigations like the one from Mr. with involving Mr. Booth are incredibly delicate and taken a tremendous amount of resources.

38:16 not only in physical resources, but in relationships, in trust. Some of these relationships take years to build. And we make great promises to our foreign counterparts. Tell us more about Viktor But. He described himself as the largest arms transporter in the world. How so? I think what made Viktor very unique is that he had assembled a private fleet of retired Soviet military aircraft. He had reached that none other than I've seen was able to utilize to place this deadly cargo in conflict zones throughout the world where other people simply couldn't deliver. And I think that's what made him unique and made him even more of a threat, not only to the United States national security, but to global stability.

39:05 Sounds a lot like Air America to me, actually. Well, no, it was the war... What was the name of the movie with Nicolas Cage? That's supposed to be about this guy. Not the art of war, which is that no it's a war or something or I don't know people in the in the showroom should Lord of War Lord of War Lord of War Thank You Joe that movies about this guy so I should watch that no I mean write that down Lord award I gotta put it on the movie I've seen it is it a Christmas movie well pretty Christmas movie well-produced Christmas movie

CHAPTER 12 / 40 Discussion

NBC News, Brittney Griner Swap Reporting Correction

NBC News and Andrea Mitchell initially reported that the US had a choice between releasing Paul Whelan or Brittney Griner, a claim that was later corrected and "memory-holed." New York Times correspondent Valerie Hopkins suggests the Kremlin was firm that the deal was "Griner for Bout or no one." This leads to speculation regarding Griner's potential importance to the US government beyond her celebrity status.

nbc news· andrea mitchell· brittney griner· paul whelan· valerie hopkins

39:41 So there was this controversy over NBC came out with reports saying that the State Department had, they were doing the deal with Russia and they, Russia said well you can have one or you can have Wailing back... Well, no, initially, as reported on NBC by Andrea Mitchell, initially it was you can have one or the other, not both. And that was according to a State Department official as per the reporting. And then that had to be corrected. And that's now been memory hold.

40:22 And so the other part of that is David Whelan, the brother, says that he was asked about this on some other show, and I just happened to hear it, where he said, nah, it's bullcrap, there's no way. Well, it turns out it might be bullcrap, but it might also have some moment of truth, because listen to this. This is at the bottom of the clip list. This is Whelan per Valerie Hopkins. Valerie Hopkins, is a correspondent, actually a reporter for the New York Times in Moscow. And she's pretty well connected and during this live interview with her on the BBC, she's looking left and right like someone's gonna come in and shoot her. The pricker! The pricker's coming! But she says something interesting which is not what NBC says,

41:09 But it's worse. Listen to this. You know, their hopes were really raised over the summer when the prospect of a two for one deal was was first floated. But but Moscow was very clear that they would that they didn't want to have a two for one. And I think that, you know, President Biden said that they've also made it clear that either either Brittany was coming home in exchange for for Mr. Booth or no one. Two for one. This you hear the end of that clip. Yes Let's play it again. We are that either either Brittany was coming home in exchange for for mr. Boot or no one It's exactly the opposite exactly the opposite It was no Waylon we're dead we don't want Waylon back. It's gonna be Brittany or nobody. Yeah So I'm telling you man. She was a spook

42:10 Well she might have been a... well that's the way they brought her back. It was... it was... was... kind of seems that way but the other thing is why are they letting the other guy hang out to dry? Okay I know you want it so I'll give you a borderline. It wasn't all that. Well if I hadn't... if I hadn't of... of... You know pre spike the ball. I would have gotten clip of the day own fault exactly But it is my own fault, but at least I got some recognition, but yes So it turns out that the NBC report was slightly off It wasn't like you could have this guy or that guy they wanted Britney or nothing Britney or nothing according to Biden Wow so why is that?

CHAPTER 13 / 40 Discussion

Paul Whelan, Russian Prison Phone Interview, Left Behind Narrative

Paul Whelan expressed disappointment in a phone interview from a Russian labor camp, questioning why more hasn't been done for his release. Republican leaders like Kevin McCarthy called the swap a "gift to Putin," while some Democrats expressed concern over the "hostage diplomacy" precedent. The segment also notes that the interview with Viktor Bout was conducted by Maria Butina, the former Russian agent previously imprisoned in the US.

paul whelan· kevin mccarthy· bob menendez· marian butina· prisoner exchange

42:55 It can't just be because LGBTQ. I don't believe it. I don't believe it either. Now listen to this clip. This is Paul Whelan calling in. White House is facing bipartisan criticism this morning after failing to secure the release, as you say, of Paul Whelan, that American businessman and former Marine who's being detained in Russia on charges of espionage. He's been there since 2018, denies those allegations. Whelan himself said he was disappointed appointed in a phone interview on Thursday. Take a listen. I don't understand why I'm still sitting here. I am greatly disappointed that more has not been done to secure my release. Sadly, for totally illegitimate reasons, Russia is treating Paul's case differently than Brittany's. On Capitol Hill, top House Republican Kevin McCarthy calling the deal to release Brittany Greiner for a Russian arms dealer known as the Merchant of Death, a quote, gift

43:48 to Vladimir Putin that endangers American lives, and Democratic Senator Bob Menendez calling the deal, quote, deeply disturbing. Now, look, their argument is that America should have gotten more for such a high profile and potentially dangerous Russian prisoner. But top Biden officials are pushing back, arguing the decision was to get Britney Griner out or no one out at all. And officials here insist they are still in vigorous talks with Russia to bring Paul Whelan home. Now, how does this guy just get to call in? This is what I don't understand. And he sounds the way his brother David should sound. Yeah, he's irked. He's very irked. Now, I would say you have to think about why would they let this guy... And by the way, the Republicans aren't really playing this right because, you know, they like to condemn this deal, whether Brittany's really more important than she is or not.

44:42 But they're not playing it right. What they should be doing to hound Biden is, because this guy, Waylon, is an ex-Marine, and they should be using the term left behind. Because left behind, we never let these, Biden's leaving him behind, he's left behind. Hey, hey, hey, John, it didn't work with Afghanistan. No one gives a crap. There's all kinds of people still left behind. No one cares. So let's go back to this idea that Brittany maybe was transferring things and she, you know, there was a good... In the weed vape! In the weed vape! It was a good swap, let's assume that. But Waylon could have been or not part of the deal but they left him to hang at least for a little bit longer until they can, they'll get him out eventually. But is it possible as punishment for some

45:34 of doing something wrong. In other words, he didn't use his tradecraft properly or screwed up to get caught with the papers that he went there for. A lot of people think he was entrapped by the Marine wedding, that he all of a sudden goes back to Russia and the next thing you know he's got a bunch of papers in his room, supposedly, that the Russians catch him with. So it was just carelessness. And it's a little punishment. You know what's interesting is that interview with the boot was conducted by Maria Bettina, the spy who got kicked out of America. The redhead? Yeah. Oh God. This whole thing.

46:16 This whole thing's nuts. It's a lot of things we don't understand, I'm afraid. We don't know any of what's going on really, but we can surmise and I think our theoreticals are as good as anyone's. I'm just going to stick to Brittany Griner being the mule. That's what I'm going to stick to for a bit. That seems kind of... Or, and the alternative is that that truly was the Christmas gift that Biden had to give to the world because, you know, thwarted, can't cancel student debt, can't do anything, gotta do something. If that's truly the reason that they chose Brittany Griner over their clear asset, then we're even in worse shape than I thought. Then we're really driving policy. I find that hard to believe. I find it hard to believe. I find it hard to believe too. I mean, everything is possible with this guy who can't even use wrongfully detained when that's the code.

CHAPTER 14 / 40 Discussion

Twitter Files, Matt Taibbi, Glenn Greenwald Speculation

The release of the "Twitter Files" via independent journalists on Substack is analyzed as a potentially staged operation. Speculation arises that Glenn Greenwald may be involved behind the scenes, similar to his role in the Snowden leaks. Matt Taibbi addressed criticisms regarding the conditions of his access to the documents, clarifying that he agreed to publish on Twitter first and use "sources at Twitter" for attribution.

twitter files· matt taibbi· glenn greenwald· elon musk· substack

47:16 He's it seems to be a moron So let's I mean, let's assume the best I guess hmm, okay have you been following the Twitter files yeah, and I do have a couple I think I have a clip maybe do I I'm not sure if you do if I do I have one But I have been following in detail, which is it I there's I have a lot of I Thoughts about this not so many guys only have one clip actually So we've had part one part two and now part three it's split up amongst molten This is let me just lay this on you. I believe the

48:02 Glenn Greenwald may be in charge of this publishing and the reason I say this is he's done this before with Snowden. He got the information, then The Guardian, The New York Times, and was it WAPO or The Washington or The Wall Street Journal? There were three and they all got the publish. I don't remember the third one because the third one which was probably WAPO, they didn't do Jack. And stuff came through redacted. because they would, and this is not a secret or anything, they would literally say, okay, we're going to publish this. State Department, CIA, FBI, take a look. Is there anything we need to redact or is there something that would compromise sources and methods? And they did. And so there was stuff that came through that was redacted. So it's very reminiscent of this, where we're seeing... It has an air of it. Yes, I agree. Also, it's all Substack people. Everything's being published on Substack. Glenn Greenwald, I believe, has

49:02 has a very large deal with Substack. I think Taibbi does too. Yeah, so this is, to me it just feels kind of like it's, even though Glenn Greenwald is not taking any credit or anything like that, it feels like he's in this mix somehow. There's an element of staged. Yes. You get a feeling for it. What's the point? Well, I can give you my conclusion right away. Elon Musk doesn't give a crap about what's happening. He's happy that everyone's distracted and paying attention and super engagement. Everything's great. He needs that while he sets up the... Monday is when we start the financial authentication. We'll get to that later. But here's Taibbi, who was the first one to be posting an

49:57 And I find this very tedious, this posting tweets to expose these internal emails and Slack messages. So he kind of apologizes to his... and I'm a Substack subscriber to his Substack, I like supporting him, I'm happy to subscribe for money and give him that because it's value for value the way I see it. So the first thing he says You know, in the rush to get this done, I chose my words poorly. A lot has been said about the line about, quote, I had to agree to certain conditions to work on the story, which of course everyone's like, oh yeah, what was that? He thought it would be obvious, but he says the language was just loose enough to give critics room to make mischief and the stakes being what they are, they of course did. That's on me.

50:43 which means F you kind of, and a lesson going forward. For the record, the deal was access to the Twitter documents, but I had to publish on Twitter. I also agreed to an attribution, which was sources at Twitter. That's it. So... To me, it's like people have this illusion that Elon Musk is emailing these Substack writers these files, but we know already the first round probably was vetted by the ex-FBI, by Baker. And then when I read this, everyone involved with the project, including myself as well as Barry Weiss and Michael Schellenberger, has editorial control. We've been encouraged to look not just at historical Twitter,

51:26 but the current iteration as well. So who is encouraging them? Who? Elon? Are they working for Elon or are they independent? Who is encouraging them? Okay, so that's not answered and I'm sure you think it's also odd for him to say. The number of things are odd for him to say. And then to do the mea culpa, which wasn't really one where he says, I'm sorry, I said these worded, he had this wordage and they called him out on it, rightfully so, because he's got some limitations on what he can and cannot do.

52:05 Okay, continue because I never thought of Greenwald being implicated. Or someone. The only one I can come up with is Greenwald and... Well, you have to remember Greenwald and Taibbi are both with their substack. columns, especially in the early days, were thick as thieves, pointing to each other, look what he did, and look what he did, look what he did, in positive ways. Look, he was condemned for this when he shouldn't have been. The early Greenwald, Taibbi, substack columns were mostly about Taibbi and Greenwald.

CHAPTER 15 / 40 Discussion

Bari Weiss, The Free Press, Twitter Moderation Transparency

Bari Weiss joined the Twitter Files project, utilizing her platform "The Free Press" to report on internal company communications. The hosts question how Weiss and Michael Shellenberger were selected by Elon Musk and note Weiss's involvement with the new University of Austin. The reporting focuses on "visibility filtering" and the internal mechanisms used to suppress certain accounts and topics.

bari weiss· the free press· elon musk· twitter files· university of austin

52:44 Exactly. So they're tight, those two. In our initial meeting, Musk talked about how he thought, quote, a full confessional restores faith in the company, end quote. And everything I've seen since seems to confirm he's sincere about his desire for full open kimono transparency with the public. I got to, as a reader, I have to disagree. Why are things redacted? Is that being redacted by Matt Taibbi and Barry Weiss or is it being redacted by Twitter? He says they're welcome to look at things going forward not not just at the past and until I run into a reason to believe otherwise I'm taking him at his word. I'd be crazy not to considering the access we've been given already and then he says good and you take that word access and Swap that word read the sentence again with the word money

53:34 He says, we're welcome to look at things going forward, not just at the past. And until I run into a reason to believe otherwise, I'm taking it as word. I'd be crazy not to, considering the money we've already been given. Yeah, nice, nice. And he said, one last quick note, and this is very, this is crazy. One last note. I was very skeptical at first about using Twitter to break these stories. Not only am I not exactly a skilled tweeter, as sadly people have seen in the last weeks, but I worried about the logistical challenge of telling complex stories in 140 character chunks. It seemed impossible.

54:13 Now he comes two weeks later, I feel differently. In this particular instance, the story has to come out on Twitter. There's the obvious deep irony of using the familiar drip, drip, drip format and uncontrollable virtual, vir, uh, vir, uh, he says virality of Twitter on roasting Twitter itself. So when he says the familiar drip, drip, drip, that's not the same as posting on Twitter. That's drip, drip, dripping. Know what I mean? There's a difference. Writing on Twitter in 140 character chunks is not the same as the irony of the familiar drip, drip, drip format. No, that's intentional. Whether it's for you guys or whether it's the information that's coming, it's intentionally dripped. That's why Jack Dorsey said, hey, publish it all like WikiLeaks, put it all out there right away. No, no, no, no, no. That's not happening. So I'm not sure exactly what that means.

55:19 Here's the next thing. So Barry Weiss comes in, she starts posting and she... But wait, why was she brought in in the first place? We don't know! Everyone just accepts it. Oh, Elon chose her. I doubt it. I really doubt that Elon chose her. Someone chose her and she has a sub stack. She also has the free press available at VFP.com and if you look at this thing it's pretty much rigged for Ron DeSantis. This is a DeSantis, pro-DeSantis publication as far as I'm concerned. No, I did this, I did not do... what is the URL? VFP.com. VFP.com.

56:14 And if you read the about, about, the Free Press is a new media company founded by Barry Wyson built on the ideals that once were the bedrock of great journalism. Honesty, doggedness and fierce independence. Then you're no Agenda Show. We publish investigative stories and provocative commentaries. Wait, wait, I'm just keep reading but I can't get I don't get this vfp.com. V V V V T H E Tango Hotel Echo Foxtrot Papa VFP. Originally called common sense we focus on stories that are ignored or misconstrued in the service of an ideological narrative. For us curiosity isn't a liability it's a necessity.

56:56 Expect debates, scoops from trusted reporters, provocations from those thinking outside the lines, and live events that bring people with different views together into a truly diverse community. Now, she calls it the free press for the free people. If you go to the most recent post, which is about, you know, how, where is this thing? I had it all marked. She claims that they have had collectively these journalists on this vfp.com that they have an audience of 50 million so I can only suppose that this is because it's Substack guys and gals so somehow this the free press is a part of this and she has no other names listed no names of journalists only herself but somehow there's 50 million subscribers collectively all right now let me move on the go to her background first

57:59 I'm sorry? She's an American journalist, writer, editor. She's the op-ed book review editor at Wall Street Journal, then the op-ed staff editor and writer on culture and politics at New York Times. And then since March 2021, she's worked at a regular columnist for the German daily Die Welt. She does a sub-stack newsletter called The Free Press and hosts a podcast, wait, but of course, it's a podcast, it's a podcast, called Honestly. Okay, so this is a interesting person to continue and by the way I don't know how she has time to start the FP comm while she's doing the University of Texas Which is a very well-funded very big deal and very real apparently I hear elites in Austin talking about all they have like a hundred million dollars to set up an alternative University In Austin, so she's really busy. I

CHAPTER 16 / 40 Discussion

Michael Shellenberger, January 6th Twitter Bans, Elon Musk's Strategy

Michael Shellenberger's reporting on the Twitter Files highlights the internal pressure from figures like Michelle Obama and Kara Swisher to ban Donald Trump following January 6th. While Jack Dorsey was on vacation, internal teams moved to permanent suspension. Meanwhile, Elon Musk is focused on relaunching Twitter Blue for $8-$11 a month to establish payment authentication and financial viability for the platform.

michael shellenberger· jack dorsey· michelle obama· chris sacca· twitter blue

58:56 Or she's just got lots of good spokesperson, spokesmodel deals, I don't know. So then we have the next part, Michael Schellenberger, he starts doing the drip, drip, drip. And here's, in a nutshell, here's what he says about Trump and January 6th and the decision to remove Trump from the platform. Now outside of all the internal slack and emails that's going back and forth, He pins it on the following people. He says, after the events of January 6th, the internal and external pressure on Twitter CEO Jack grows from former first lady Michelle Obama who was bitching online, tech journalist Kara Swisher who was bitching online, the Anti-Defamation League who was bitching online, the high-tech VC Chris Sacca and many others who are bitching online.

59:47 And Dorsey was on vacation in French Polynesia, so he just left it up to everybody else. So it was those people that are now being blamed for this taking place. You can see the obvious political slant that's being taken here. And I think that's all purposeful. So what you're... I want you to continue this, but what you're describing is an op. You don't say. Well, not so much an op as I am 100% convinced Elon Musk He just wants people to be engaged. He'll deal with anything. He is so hyper-focused on the authentication amidst all of this. On Monday, the Twitter blue, Twitter gray, Twitter silver, Twitter gold is all coming back. You get verified with your payment on the web. It only costs $8 because if you do it through I-O- the web is for Android and web, obviously. Or if you don't want to go through the

1:00:48 Apple authentication process, which of course means they take 30% it's $11. So it's $96 a year. Do I get free shipping? You get... Well what you get is your payment authenticated and that's all that... 96 bucks a year is a little high unless I get free shipping and possibly a TV service. And a hoodie. I think I never got a hoodie from Prime. So he is only interested in keeping people on the platform and engaged until he rolls this out, which he's moving very fast. This is the number one thing he's doing after he made this big to-do on Twitter Spaces last night.

CHAPTER 17 / 40 Discussion

Twitter Spaces, Child Safety, Intelligence Agency Involvement

Elon Musk participated in a Twitter Space discussing child safety and the removal of exploitative content from the platform. During the session, he was questioned about the level of involvement from intelligence agencies like the FBI and CIA in Twitter's past moderation. Musk's responses were non-committal, stating he had not yet found a "smoking gun" but would surface any evidence of questionable collusion.

elon musk· twitter spaces· child safety· fbi· cia

1:01:36 about the kiddie porn. So this all of a sudden popped up and I think this was someone trying to stop him dead in his tracks. I don't know the players yet, but he's rolling forward. He's getting, it's probably Facebook, honestly. He's rolling forward. He's getting his payment authentication. He doesn't give a crap about what's, just keep engaged. He's posting charts. Look how much engagement we have. It's great. Even more, more, more. It could be, also could be PayPal. Oh, could, very good. So now, oh, You got kiddie porn, you don't care. And then out in the Slack messages it turns out that people are very lax about this, especially the head of Trust and Safety, the Yoel guy. So this becomes an issue. All of a sudden he's doing a Twitter Space with former child pornography victims who are leading the conversation because he said, I make it number one priority.

1:02:33 But it was number one priority just for him to say it's number one priority, we're going to change it. He immediately posted a graph. Hey look, kiddie porn is down. Stocks are up, kiddie porn is down. You know, this whole kiddie porn thing on Twitter? I mean, I float around Twitter. I've been on it since the 20s, 2000s. I'd never heard of kiddie porn on Twitter. I've never seen kiddie porn on Twitter. How do they... This doesn't make any sense to me. I can explain this. Not that I've looked for that, but there's a lot of porn on Twitter. And the thing is... I haven't, by the way, I've seen once in a while I'll see a little porn. Yeah, that's a mistake. That's a mistake. All of that is completely shut down. You can't find it by search. You can't... There's no way to find it. The only way is to get a deep link from someone. So if you go on Google, who are good with the kitty porn, and you say, kitty porn or just porn Twitter, you'll get some links, which are in essence promotional accounts that link to

1:03:28 some other bullcrap. Some other thing, yeah. So he's doing this Twitter Spaces last night being interviewed by victims of child abuse, sexual child abuse. And then all of a sudden back to me, we have to talk about the CIA, FBI, NSA, etc. from the, it's the kiddie porn victims. How involved have three-letter agencies been behind the scenes of Twitter? And when you say three-letter agencies, you're already, I don't know who you are, But you're level Tim Pool, I'm sorry. You know, three-letter agencies. Why don't you say intelligence agencies? This is weird. How involved have three-letter agencies been behind the scenes of Twitter, you know? FBI and the... Maybe she's talking about the FAA.

1:04:14 And the FDA. No, she's very clear and his answer will explain how involved have three letter agencies been behind the scenes of Twitter, you know, FBI, NSA, CIA. Now that you've had an opportunity to look under the hood a little bit. What exactly are we looking at as American citizens and citizens of the globe with our three-letter agencies behind the scenes at Twitter? Yeah, well first I'd say it's probably not the case that those agencies are monolithic in that they're big agencies.

1:04:52 I've had some interaction with the FBI over the years, but I've had more interaction with the CIA. Frankly, actually my general perception of people at the CIA is that they're good people. I mean, maybe not everyone's good, but The people that I've met at the CIA are good. I've met fewer people at the FBI, but I'm sure there are a lot of good people at the FBI and most people probably get good motivations. I haven't seen any sort of smoking gun thing yet, but if we do find something that shows questionable occlusion, then we will surface it and bring it to light. So yeah.

1:05:44 Do you believe sorry Ilan do you believe that there's a situation with Twitter that will be revealed with the Twitter files? where the United States government infringed on any American citizens First Amendment, right? That's certainly possible. I think we're just trying to get to the bottom of that and if that turns out to be the case, we will certainly bring it. He says nothing. He says nothing. This is what he does. He says nothing. He never says anything. He stammers and he doesn't even do complete sentences. And I cut out at least 30 seconds of pauses where he's stammering. I cut some of that out. It was too painful.

CHAPTER 18 / 40 Discussion

Twitter Blue Relaunch, Verification Prioritization, Michael Shellenberger Background

Twitter Blue is set to relaunch with features including prioritized search results, fewer ads, and longer video uploads. The hosts discuss the background of Michael Shellenberger, noting his transition from a climate change believer to a critic and his focus on progressivism's link to social issues. The verification system is framed as a tool to fight scams by prioritizing authenticated users.

twitter blue· verification· michael shellenberger· climate change· breakthrough institute

1:06:25 Yeah, he's very is he does it on I think he does it on purpose Anyway, Twitter blue relaunches Monday everybody Here's what you'll get if your Twitter blue. Let me go to the actual Tweet thread here we go. They have it up on the screen here. You go to Twitter blue It's $8 for Android and on the on the web $11 for iOS You get, you will rocket to the top of replies, mentions and search. Of course, because you're verified. Tweets from verified users will be prioritized, helping to fight scams and spam. Exactly what I predicted. You'll see half the ads. That's because he doesn't care about any of the, he doesn't care about 100% of the ads, dummies. And then post longer videos and get early access to select new features with Twitter Blue Labs.

1:07:26 So this will work. What kind of new feature am I looking for? Less kiddie porn, apparently. No, the feature... And the minute you pay, that's when the authentication, the payment authentication kicks in. You don't get a blue check automatically. Accounts will be verified. So this is not about anything other than X.com. So I'm waiting for him to take my blue check away. Because I have one I know why would he take it away? Well, I because I'm not gonna pay the eight bucks. I think your grandfather did Yeah, I think I think so too not because you know, it's because of your age literally like I can't can't hello Literally you are granddad. Yes, you got grandfathered in no matter which way you spin it. I'm a grandfather

1:08:21 Oh man. And meanwhile there's... Well I don't, you know, I looked, I don't have any clips. I thought I did. I've been following it as close as I can and I'm as baffled as you are by the Barry Weiss sudden emergence. And Schellenberger, Schellenberger. It's just these choices. These are sub-stack heroes. Ooh, I like that. Sub-stack heroes. No, we're not using that. Oh, okay. I'm writing it down. You go. That's a great title. I don't follow Schellenberger, tell me about him. He's the anti-climate, he was a climate change believer then he became a denier I think. See Michael. How exciting. Schellenberger, yeah we played some clips from him let me see. I think we played some clips we had Schellenberger

1:09:12 Yes, let's see. What was this? This is from, I'll just play a little bit. This is from September 25th this year. We need to move away from fossil fuels and that absolutely includes gas and that's why I am very glad that New York State is doing exactly that. There was a couple of pieces of information that people stated here that were incorrect. Someone said that New York is moving away from gas. That's false. Yeah, he used to be a climate change guy and then he went against it because he saw the truth. And he testified in Congress and that's how he shot to fame. What's he got to do with Twitter? He has nothing, but he's also, as far as I know, he's not a reporter. Let's see.

CHAPTER 19 / 40 Discussion

Social Media Moderation, Shadow Banning, Bozo Filters

The discussion clarifies the difference between "shadow banning" and "visibility filtering," comparing the former to a "Bozo filter" where a user's posts are only visible to themselves. TechCrunch's perspective on the difficulty of moderation is reviewed, suggesting that total transparency is impossible without empowering scammers. The hosts reiterate their move to Mastodon as a response to centralized platform manipulation.

shadow banning· bozo filter· techcrunch· mastodon· elon musk

1:09:56 And one more thing, what is the reason or the rationale for Greenwald, who is an attention whore... To not be claiming this? Or to not be involved visually? Or even verbally? Or not be involved in any way, seemingly? Tina's like, you got this wrong, Curry. You got this wrong. No, no. He would be... I don't know any other way to do it. Is it just some smart person at Substack? So he is an American author, former public relations professional whose writing is focused on the intersection of politics, the environment, climate change and nuclear power as well as more recently on how he believes progressivism is linked to homelessness, drug addiction and mental illness. He's the co-founder of the Breakthrough Institute and co-founder of the California Peace Coalition, also a founder of the Environmental Progress. So he's not necessarily a journalist. So these are interesting choices.

1:10:59 And this is the thing, this is what no one talks about. It's just, oh, oh it's Barry Weiss, great! Well you know who should be discussing this is, is Taibbi should tell us. Why? Yeah, how these people were chosen. Why has he got anything to do with this? Who's giving him this stuff and who, name names. You know, this bullcrap, you know, the way he's doing it is bullcrap. Name names or shut up. Get out, get out, get out, get off the pot. It's very annoying to me, probably more annoying that so many people just think, oh it's great, everyone's going to go to jail. No one's going to jail. No one cares. Here's the typical response. This was TechCrunch, just to give you an idea.

1:11:45 And so TechCrunch's idea or take on this is, well you know, these are just messages that are going back and forth. This is about the true difficulty of moderation, you see. If you run a social media site, you're really running a moderation team, which is true. That's why Musk was able to fire 75% of the employees because they were all a part of the big moderation. And so here's TechCrunch. To reveal too much about how it works would be to expose the process to abuse by spammers and scammers. While to reveal too little leads to damaging reports and rumors as they lose control over the narrative. Meanwhile, they must be ready to justify and document their methods or risk censure and fines from government bodies. The result is that while everyone knows a little about how exactly these companies inspect, filter, and arrange the content posted on their platforms, it's just enough to be sure that what we're seeing is only the tip of the iceberg. Yes, I'm sure much more is coming. And now everyone's saying,

1:12:45 Jack, Jack, he lied under oath! He lied under oath! That's another one, yeah, you're right. It's a meme, it's a meme! We don't shadow ban! Just correct me if I'm wrong because I think there's a discrepancy in the understanding. Shadow banning, the way I understand it, is the The Bozo filter. So when your shadow... It's a version of the Bozo filter. So what people I think are confusing it with is being on a no trending list and the no amplified list. That's not the same as shadow banning. That's restricted. That's the algo. That's what Twitter is. We should explain to some people what a Bozo filter is because I'm sure a lot don't know. But a Bozo filter is used in small forums

1:13:36 and it's almost a switch you can flip, and what it does, it allows one person to post and see the post. But nobody else sees this post. The post is dead to everybody else. So this is an interruptive type person that gets into a conversation online. These are when it's a threaded, usually in threaded systems where you have, yeah, you know, comments, so let's say comments on a column and you have a thousand comments and you got one guy in there keeps, he's just sniping away left and right. You flip the Bozo switch on him, nobody sees any of those comments except him. He's the Bozo because he sees himself. That's a Bozo filter. But what gets me is this is the algorithm. Whether it's a news story, whether they're spiking it up or spiking it down, people are like, oh my god, they were shadow banning. Really? Really? You're really surprised?

1:14:36 And this is, so there's endless podcasts and people yapping about this. It's like, when did you just figure this out? Yeah, I'm kind of surprised by the reaction. The reaction is, is, you know, and our own people, our own people are, this is going to be great deconstruction for the show. No, I don't know. I don't know what to say other than, hello, this is why we went to Mastodon three and a half years ago, which now was, you know, the second coming. Everyone's, oh, Mastodon, oh, if only we knew. Hello. So I'm just, I'm a little disappointed in some ways, but also delighted that we get to witness this because everyone who gets your blue checkmark, get ready. Get ready. Elon's the perfect guy for the CBDC and the digital ID. It's beautiful. You will enjoy it. Well, we'll see. And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage, saying in the morning to you, the man who put the C in all the three-letter agencies, ladies and gentlemen, Mr. John C.

CHAPTER 20 / 40 Discussion

No Agenda Social, Mastodon, Journalist Instances

The hosts promote No Agenda Social and the Troll Room, noting that their Mastodon instance has been blocked by some mainstream journalist servers. John C. Dvorak mentions following various media figures on the Fediverse to archive their internal discussions. They recall the "JournoList" scandal as a historical precedent for coordinated media narratives.

no agenda social· mastodon· fediverse· trollroom.io· journalist list

1:15:34 Well, in the morning to you Mr. Adam Curry, also in the morning to all ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there. In the morning to all of the trolls in the troll room who have been reasonably helpful today. Although, you know, people's like, hey man this guy's a DNC shill, oh yeah send me a link, no man that's just what I think. Okay, don't do that. That's what trolls do. Trolls, man. I'm trying to watch you guys for information and you just, you're fake news on me time to time. We do love our trolls. They tune in on Thursdays and Sundays for our live stream, which you can find at noagendastream.com. More specifically, trollroom.io is where you can pop right in, you get the stream, you get the chat, you can do anything you want. It's easy to remember, trollroom.io. Let's see how many we have in there today. See if we've kept up a little bit.

1:16:30 2046, 2046. That's about 250 low for a Sunday. Not bad. At least it wasn't like 19 we had a couple weeks ago. Yeah, that was pretty bad. Well, trolls, they hang out here. They also hang out at the aforementioned noagendasocial.com. Where we don't shadow ban, we just kick you off and tell you right before we do it. Out. If it's towards me. If it's someone else, anyone else, you can block and ban them yourself. But if you're trolling me, I have God powers. Be very careful. I will remove you. I will remove you. You can follow Adam at noagendasocial.com or John C. Dvorak at noagendasocial.com and I think we still have slots available in our 10,000 limit. You can go to signup.noagendasocial.com and join the crowd. There's lots of interesting people hanging around these days.

1:17:30 A lot, and you know I have, I had to get my own secret little Mastodon server just for me so I could follow people because you know obviously noagendasocial.com has been blocked by some of the journalist instances. Man I gotta tell you I am enjoying, enjoying following this. It's people from NPR, PBS, WAPO, and it's not just journalists, it's people who work in the newsroom doing secondary things. Are you booking this stuff? Booking? You know, saving these files, saving these messages, putting them in an archive? The ones that are interesting, you bet. Good. You bet. You bet. Make sure you got date stamps on there.

1:18:20 Well, my training tells me not to. This reminds me, you know, what you're doing reminds me, remember that, that, that journo or whatever the hell it was called, a special form that was real secret and then only a few journalists were on it and they were plotting against the president, basically. Oh, wasn't that a list? Wasn't that an email list? Or what was that? I think it was an email list. It could have been. Something like that. Wow, the amount of things we forget is really, is really quite, The journal... journalist. There you go. Journalist. Something like that. We'll see y'all there. And of course you can follow us from anywhere. Anywhere that you're not blocked out is across the Fediverse and we're happy to... happy to have y'all. Come on in.

CHAPTER 21 / 40 Discussion

Episode 1510 Art, Tante Neal, Value for Value

The hosts review the artwork for Episode 1510, titled "It's an Op," and discuss the "Woodstock of Vax" piece by Tante Neal. They explain the leaderboard for contributing artists and the role of Dreb Scott in synchronizing art with the podcast chapters. Listeners are encouraged to use modern podcast apps like Fountain to view the art in real-time.

tante niel· podcast art· value for value· fountain app· dreb scott

1:19:06 Thank you to the artist for episode 1510. It was an op, we titled it a Trump op. It was the easiest title that we could really... It was just so obvious that's we had to call it. The artists who bring us tremendous value in concert I would say with the the new version of Twitter where we really just don't have to worry about advertisers, you know, getting pissed about something because, you know, like we have the art from Tante Neal that says, the Woodstock of Vax, three years of clots and heart attacks. I mean, that's something that I think previous to the purchase probably would have been shadow banned. What do you think? Absolutely. Because if not, if not just

1:19:54 Erased because we looked at it. We're like we can do this now Nothing's gonna happen because no one cares about advertising on Twitter and we were right. Yeah, it's there as we speak Yeah now there was a lot to choose from There was way too much to choose from. And quality, honestly. Not all appropriate, but quality stuff. People really did a good job. Well, there was a good cheesecake piece from Paul. Yes. Which he had to win this one, by the way, according to, if you follow the... the threads on Mastodon. What do you mean? Why did he have to win this one? He had to win this one and every single one going out or he wouldn't be, couldn't take over the top spot as the number of pieces chosen for the year 2022 which has now become a thing. No, I'm glad I don't know this. I'm glad I'm not a part of these. I avoid these conversations. I don't want to know.

1:20:49 Because I'll be influenced. So Darren's maintaining a nice list and I believe Kenny Benn or Ness, who is it that's at the top of the list? Somebody in the chat room will know. I don't know. It's not Kenny Benn, it's not Ness, it's somebody else. Where is this information even? Where does it even show? It's on the No Agendas. Oh, it's not on the art generator. No, no, not at all. We have a leaderboard is what you're saying. But everyone, all the artists, with I don't think any exceptions, are unaware of this list. And so now we're back there and we're seeing who did the most. And Darren, of course, I think won one of the years. So we're doing a little back years. We're probably going to give awards or certificates out. We'll give you a little widget you can put on your website that points back to us.

1:21:40 Yeah, something like that. So I'm surprised the draw room hasn't come up with the name of this leader. But it's only because there's a difference between one and two art pieces. It's going to come down to the wire to the end. All right. So some of the ones we liked, we liked Corrector Records, It's an Op. By the way, maybe Tantanille, that's at the top of the list. It's possible. There was a lot of... I liked it's not but you thought it was was crude. I thought it was a little weak. Yeah, it was weak. Correct the record. We liked to write next to the Nano. No, no was good. Then there was the cute piece the retro cheesecake, which was excellent. Very well done. It looks like something from the 40s. Yeah, I just thought we didn't need it because we had other good stuff. No, it wasn't gonna work.

1:22:29 Lots of teeth jokes which their teeth jokes were none of that was gonna happen. It's disgusting I think you like the cap gun the pop gun the capitalist agenda spaceman. No you like that you like that We just have a agenda is also in the running for the top. We could we couldn't figure out what it meant Space man gun we couldn't understand the relevance of the show. It's a pretty piece. Yeah. Yeah, but we didn't understand it I didn't either I liked the Q world order and you said, you know Do we really need that and I said now you're right this bullcrap and get all kinds of bullshit over that Because you know QAnon it's now global thing. It's worldwide and obviously, you know when you're QAnon, you might as well be arrested

1:23:12 Q world order was by capitalist agenda another very professional looking piece. It was attractive Because it just looks like he likes to do these right. He does buttons, you know kinds of things very well and But no, we're not doing we're not doing any Q stuff in the in the art No, not any nice. Oh, yeah, it's funny again until it's funny. It's never gonna be funny again. I mean you possible. Oh Well, thank you all very much artists and I can already see it's going to be a tough choice coming up. It's going to be a very tough choice. If you'd like to see all of these in context while we're doing the show, you can grab one of those modern apps at newpodcastapps.com. I would say why don't you try

1:24:00 Fountain. Fountain is for Android and iOS and they've got all these, it's synchronized. Dreb Scott, he listens to the show, he picks all the art, he puts it in a certain timecode, you can see it all as you're listening. Each chapter has different art, it's very cool to watch, especially what, I think it even works on Apple CarPlay, if you're into that. Or you can just listen to the live show and keep refreshing While we're doing it at no agenda art generator comm thank you to all artists It's tremendous value that you that you give us as part of our value for value proposition where we accept time talent and treasure This definitely takes care of two of the T's the time the talent and if we had to pay for it It would cost a lot of treasure. So we are satisfied and happy now

CHAPTER 22 / 40 Discussion

Executive Producer Donations, DH Slammer, Knighting Ceremony

The show acknowledges high-tier donations from the Baron of Backwardation and Contango ($1,111.11) and DH Slammer ($465.33). DH Slammer is elevated to the rank of Viscount of the Central California Coast. Other significant contributors include Grand Duke David Foley and Baron Jim Bobway. The hosts discuss the "value for value" model and the peerage system of the No Agenda show.

dh slammer· david foley· jim bobway· knighthood· peerage

1:24:44 Let's say hello and thank you to our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1511. And we kick it off with, let me see, who is this? The Baron of Backwardation and Contango. who finds himself in Winter Park, Florida, comes in with a row of sticks. $1,111.11. This is a nice donation. In the morning, donation from Baron of Backwardation and Contango. Welcome back, Adam. Merry Christmas, John. No jingles, no karma. Doesn't get much better than that. No, that's outstanding. DH Slammer follows up in Buellton, California.

1:25:28 $465.33. Since my pre-banked apology was a bust... That's right, he got in trouble for even saying that he was going to get in trouble. Because it had to be used for the pre-banked apology. Here's an old-fashioned end of year donation. This brings me to 5x night. So if it pleases the peerage committee, I shall henceforth be known as sir dh slammer Viscount of Central California Coast Ventura to Santa Cruz and the Santa Anise Valley as such Baroness Dame bang bang and Baron sir Lily of the valley are hereby allowed to request audience in order to kiss the Lord's ring

1:26:17 You may kiss my ring! And he has a picture of it. Oh, and that was the sound that you played. That's what I just played, yes. Also, jobs, karma for Dame Bang Bang's new jobs. New job, please. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! You've got karma. Mmm, kidoke? Oh, Grand Duke David Foley! Now aren't we supposed to introduce all the Grand Dukes for some sort of fanfare? I don't... do we have a Grand Duke? I'm sure we do. Hold on. It's been a while... Let's see... You know what? You are right, sir!

1:27:14 There you go. In Los Gatos, California, there isn't an M5M spokes model out there that would keep on going after spitting their teeth out onto the desk. I heard this after the fact. It was quite humorous, actually. No agenda is truly the best podcast in the universe. No jingles, just a little Rotocraft karma please from Grand Duke of the United States, David Foley. What is this? I don't think that's Rotocraft. I don't have a... Wow! I don't know what that was. Hold on, I have something closer. I don't have a helicopter. I don't have helicopter sounds. Something fell apart there. Something was not good. How about a drone just for the idea?

1:27:57 I'll get me a helicopter thing for you. His, under the horrible influence of myself, his son has decided to learn how to fly helicopters. So, hence. Yeah. Baron Jim Bobway and the Viscountess Marianne Schneeberger in Cary, North Carolina, part of the Schneeberg Enclave. Oh yeah, the clan, yeah. North Carolina. Monthly donation at 333.32 from Jim Schneeberger, aka Baron Jim Bobway, possibly a Viscount by now.

1:28:38 And Baroness Viscountess Mary Ann Schneeberger wishing Adam John Senior, loved ones a joyful, blessed Christmas. We'll be listening to Sunday's No Agenda show in Le Bon Delivay, a spa on Lac Lamin, Switzerland. So they're in Switzerland living it up. There's a small thank you. There is a small thank you to Mary Ann for being married to me for, this is actually from, oh it's from all of them, married to me for 10 years today. Here's another 10, a good 10 year anniversary place to go have some vitello tonnato. Here's another 10 and sharing the same wish to Noah Jenner for another decade of sanity and I should bring up, having said vitello tonnato,

1:29:28 Yes, okay, Alabama, Alabama white sauce. I got it wrong. I got it wrong, but I recall it. I do know this sauce. And for all practical purposes, it's mayo, probably Duke's, I'm guessing, because that's the mayonnaise that everyone in the South uses and it's really good. I'm glad you do know it. That's great. I do know it. Duke's mayonnaise and some vinegar and salt and pepper, which is about as salty as it is. It sounds nasty. Yeah, you know, if it's, I'm telling you, people out there, if you want to try, Amazon has it available here and there, but if you've been using Hellman's or Best Foods or Japanese mayonnaise or anything else, try Duke's. What's Japanese mayonnaise?

1:30:18 Oh, QP and there's a whole bunch of them they have. They have a lot of mayonnaises. I didn't know. And they're usually made with 100% yolks. I found out just recently that there's a big thing about cinnamon. You have to have Vietnamese cinnamon. Are you aware of this? I'm very aware we have all four cinnamons and we used to have them at the spice shop. I'm very aware of cinnamons and that's not true. I'm just saying that I see that promoted everywhere. Oh, it's Saigon cinnamon. Yeah, Saigon cinnamon. It's a good cinnamon. I have some of it, but I think there are four kinds of basic cinnamons. I think there's more and there's a bark and there's one that

1:31:02 It's not the Saigon stuff, but there's one that's red hot and it's the one that makes those little, you know, those candies that's good that got that cinnamon in it. And that's the one or the cinnamon oil, I think. That's the one that's kind of interesting. The other ones are cinnamony, but they're not. Didn't Saigon Cinnamon, didn't she perform at Club 33 for a while? No, we couldn't afford her. Congratulations, 10 years. They never had a fight. Scott Thomas is in Vancouver, BC, Candinavia. 333 which we're going to presume is in dollarettes and we do accept those first-time donor please deduce me You've been D do I've been listening to the greatest podcast which should be the best for over two years without giving back off the horrors Thanks for the sanity. You've provided these last two plus years. No jingles much love from Vancouver BC from Scott Thomas Thank you Scott and welcome. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome citizen

1:32:02 Mike Rineker from Dubuque, Iowa. $300.33. This donation will make me a knight. Please call me Sir Eddie Metal. If I could get kimchi and coffee at the round table, no jingles, just business karma. Also just a thought for Gitmo Nation movie producers. Ernest goes to Camp Lejeune, huh? V for V. Great idea. You've got karma. You'll probably get it financed by Thomas J. Henry.

1:32:40 We go to Chicago, Blake Michigan is in Chicago with our favorite associate executive producer donation 234.56 says from producer Blake Michigan and all the slaves in the Chicago community thanks for the best bivalent podcast in the universe. We'll take it. Thank you very much. Sir Andy and Dame Kylie in Lumberall somewhere in Australia $192.90 Please credit our friend Kyle Allen of the Brothers of the Serpent podcast, this 30142 Aussie, which pushes them up a notch by the way. It came in to us at $192, but it's actually 30142 and I would recommend the Aussies. Yeah, he goes to

1:33:26 Wait, doesn't he automatically become, if it was 301, then an executive, not associate. Yeah. Yeah, okay. Got it. And I would recommend Australians put this into the note so we don't have to keep futzing around with the totals. Yeah. Sir Willis of the Rock smokes and beers at the round table. Smokes and beers. Sir Andy and Dame Kylie of the Double D Cups rubilizer out. India, hang out, Mike. Stand by. 33, 33, 33. Robilizer out. Oh, there you go. And I should make the point that I mispronounced Kyle. It's Kyle Allen, not Kylie even though... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You just can't win. You can't win.

CHAPTER 23 / 40 Discussion

New Knights, Bank Transfer Issues, Producer Credits

Several listeners are dubbed as Knights, including Sir Bohemian Butcher and Sir Nathan Black Knight of the Metaverse. The hosts address issues with bank transfers not appearing on the donation spreadsheet and promise a fix in the first quarter of the new year. They thank the producers for 15 years of support.

sir bohemian butcher· sir nathan· sir hank· bank transfers· knighthood

1:34:16 Yeah, you can win. No, it's impossible. And that's it. That's the end of it that we only have the one there We get the eight donors almost all of them execs and They want to thank them for helping us out on show 15 1511. These are forever credits. In fact, they are special credits because what are they this through Christmas? Are these Christmas credits? What is the what is the official? The executive there's nothing special the executive producer, but if you're a knight you're gonna become you can be boys of a Christmas night. Oh, that's a good one. I like that. So there's about three or four of them on here before we continue then. Let me see. We have a couple of notes...

1:35:01 Let's see, this is... Yes, Chad Nolacek, of course, NolacekMeats said, several shows ago, my awesome cousin Lindsey made a donation in my name that put me over the threshold for knighthood, so it's time to claim my name. I'll from now on be known as Sir Bohemian Butcher, Knight of the Late Model Slide Jobs. And he wants iced coffee and Nolacek's bacon at the round table, which of course we'll take care of for you. Thank you all for this community, as well as the courage you possess in spades. Then we have Nathan Garza, and these are still kind of lost from the 1500 special and the 15 anniversary special week. I donated $77 in episode 1499, bringing my total donations to the show to $1,000, making me eligible for knighthood. However, my donation amount note wasn't read on the show. I got married early this month, so I've been behind on listening and just caught back up. Please dub me Sir Nathan Black Knight

1:35:57 of the metaverse, please give my wife and I an air horn millennial marriage karma at the end. I like that he says at the end, which is how it should be. Thank you. But I'm gonna do it right now. We have Henk from the Netherlands who donated also around the 15th and he tried to get it out in 1507. He sent a note in Dutch which I should have translated for the back office. We finally got it together and he will be a knight today. His knight name will be... Believe it or not, Sir Hank. There you go, Sir Hank. Then we have Sean Stedman. Salutations, Podfathers. John, suspected donations are missing. I sent two bank transfers of $60.06 each. My accounting shows both should have landed on $15.10 due to a delay in posting. May I suggest bank transfers as a whole are not making it to the spreadsheet somehow? Not sure, but I think we received it. Bank transfers rarely make it to the spreadsheet.

1:37:01 Why is that? Because there's a lot of reasons. Is that something... Well, for one thing, the number of bank transfers we get in a year... It's very small. Those two that he sent in... That's it for the year? That's half of them. Well, I think we'll fix this Q1, right? Hello? Yeah, yeah. We should say yes, we'll fix it Q1. Yes, that bank transfer situation will be fixed. Okay. Thank you all very much. You will be on deck for your nighting and or daming. We have a couple of black nights coming up as well. Thank you so much for your courage. If you'd like to learn how to become an executive producer or an associate executive producer or just any kind of producer of the NOAA Gender Show, to keep us running, to keep us rolling, which you've

1:37:51 successfully and faithfully done for 15 years. Go to our website to learn more. www.dvorak.org slash N-A Thank you for all the time, talent, and treasure you brought for episode 1511. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Order! Order! Shut up, slave! Shut up, slave! Got a couple of, um... Couple of things I want to discuss the first I look a little bit at the at the collapse of society I talked about the UK on the last episode because I talked to my buddy Michelle and she's hatched really crap It's no good. Well, wouldn't you know it my favorite British? Newscasters the news agents opened up their show right after we did this with an overview of all of the strikes That means people stopping work

CHAPTER 24 / 40 Discussion

UK General Strike, Build Back Better, CBDC Implementation

The United Kingdom faces a wave of strikes across the rail, postal, and healthcare sectors, with potential for a general strike. The hosts theorize that the resulting societal collapse is a planned precursor to "Build Back Better" and the introduction of Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDCs). Prime Minister Rishi Sunak's background at Stanford and his support for digital currency are noted.

uk strikes· rishi sunak· general strike· cbdc· build back better

1:37:01 Why is that? Because there's a lot of reasons. Is that something... Well, for one thing, the number of bank transfers we get in a year... It's very small. Those two that he sent in... That's it for the year? That's half of them. Well, I think we'll fix this Q1, right? Hello? Yeah, yeah. We should say yes, we'll fix it Q1. Yes, that bank transfer situation will be fixed. Okay. Thank you all very much. You will be on deck for your nighting and or daming. We have a couple of black nights coming up as well. Thank you so much for your courage. If you'd like to learn how to become an executive producer or an associate executive producer or just any kind of producer of the NOAA Gender Show, to keep us running, to keep us rolling, which you've

1:37:51 successfully and faithfully done for 15 years. Go to our website to learn more. www.dvorak.org slash N-A Thank you for all the time, talent, and treasure you brought for episode 1511. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Order! Order! Shut up, slave! Shut up, slave! Got a couple of, um... Couple of things I want to discuss the first I look a little bit at the at the collapse of society I talked about the UK on the last episode because I talked to my buddy Michelle and she's hatched really crap It's no good. Well, wouldn't you know it my favorite British? Newscasters the news agents opened up their show right after we did this with an overview of all of the strikes That means people stopping work

1:38:55 in union jobs mainly, government jobs, union jobs in the United Kingdom from now through the new year. Nice. First we've got to talk a little bit more about strikes because what we saw on Friday afternoon at the CWU rally in Parliament is just one small example of what's to come. Consider for a moment the breadth of the industries due to strike in December alone. There will be more Royal Mail strikes next week, more rail strikes, more after that, more in January, nurses on the 15th and 20th of December, driving instructors in the 12 days until Christmas, ambulance staff, paramedics, highway agency staff,

1:39:35 ground handlers at Heathrow, border force staff at airports, some Eurostar staff, 100,000 civil servants affecting government agencies as widespread as the Carinnau office or the British Museum or Kew Gardens, Ofsted, you name it. And there will be more, far more. Indeed, the RMT General Secretary, Mick Lynch, has talked about the possibility of a general strike not held in Britain since 1926. We need a generalised response. Whether we can get a general strike or not is a matter of waiting to see what develops but I definitely think there will be generalized action as we go through into the new year if these disputes aren't resolved and the RMT will be there with people we will certainly be with the nurses with everyone the health workers the teachers everyone that's fighting for a square deal will be there next to them giving them our support whenever we can. Attention Brits, Christmas has been cancelled. You're cancelled. Christmas has been cancelled. I have two questions.

1:40:36 Or not one, actually statements. One, if you're an American or anything, anybody, don't go there during this period. Bad idea. You're just going to be screwed. If you can even get in the country, you probably won't be able to get out of it. The second is what are they angling for here? Well, it seems to me like the guy who was talking, he says, oh, I don't know if we're going to get a general strike. He clearly wants a general strike. That's what I heard. Yeah, fine. They want a general strike. Let's say they get a general strike. What's the point of the strike? To collapse society. How many times do I have to... When people are dead on the streets of London, then would you believe the Great Rechset is real? That this was not a joke? This is part of Build Back Better. I just do not see what's going to come of it.

1:41:29 What good's gonna come of it? Build back better. You say nothing good. No, okay, okay. Alright, let me tell you. What will happen is so, okay, problem, reaction, solution, sorry to go Ike on your ass. My ass? Yeah, your ass. Destruction, total mayhem, Steamy checks with the central bank digital currency through Twitter direct into your app and then it's all good because people will be crying. They already they're already in a severe cold snap. They can't afford to heat their homes. It's just it's gonna go from Bad to worse, and the only thing I can imagine is Dishi Rishi, who is a fan, he's on record talking about, oh it's gonna be so great, we can just give you money in your phone or your app. I have no other theory. Stanford. What do you mean Stanford? He came from Stanford. Oh, he came from Stanford? Yeah, another one of them. That's all I can come up with.

CHAPTER 25 / 40 Discussion

Remote Work Apocalypse, New York Times Strike, Urban Decay

The "remote apocalypse" is discussed as workers refuse to return to downtown offices, leading to a decline in urban centers. New York Times employees went on a 24-hour strike, citing issues with wages and the right to work remotely. The hosts predict that many downtown buildings may eventually be destroyed or burned as the office-based economy fails.

remote work· new york times· strike· urban decay· larry silverstein

1:42:29 I'm happy to listen to something else. I think they're gonna, if this actually happens to the extent that they're describing it, there's going to be buildings burned down. Oh yeah. And so they have to tell them to be on fire. No, no. You know where the buildings will be burned? Downtown. Every downtown will burn. The remotepocalypse has finally come into view. It'll cost cities in the United States... Rubble-ized. It's rubble-ized, exactly. They say remote apocalypse because everyone wants to work remotely. Even Apple can't get their people back. Elon Musk said, you know, you come back or you're no longer working for the company. It's not easy.

1:43:13 Every millennial I know has moved back in with their parents, not in ours actually, no luckily, 9 million of them. Yet! 9 million, hey there's lots of other parents in this equation. 9 million of them moving back in with their parents this year. They will be working remotely. The downtown areas need to go where people used to go to offices. I predict they will burn them down in the riots. It's the only way to go. You can't afford to shut it down and break your lease. It has to burn. And I'm not saying they're gonna do it, the rioters won't, but somebody will. It's a classic. It's what you do. You buy a couple of buildings, two, you know, then you put a big mortgage on them and then something happens to them. Ask Larry Silverstein. Yeah, his are the best. Now, the New York Times was on strike on Thursday.

1:44:10 I didn't notice much. I don't think it stopped the news. What was the point of that? What did they accomplish? I'd like to know. I'm glad you asked. Fox News went on the street and interviewed these striking New York Times workers. What are you guys on strike about? We've been at the bargaining table for 20 months now. The company is consistently coming into the bargaining table with proposals that are insulting and unacceptable. The New York Times is making record profits and the people who make the news need to share in that. It's a variety of issues, but the big things are we haven't had a raise in over two years. What are they not giving you? They're not giving basic floor wages of $65,000. I'll be honest, I don't know the details of that specifically. We have been working through the entire pandemic without any salary increases at a time of record inflation. Is this about coming back to the office?

1:44:58 It's also about coming back to the office. Of course, we also want to make sure that we are protecting people. You know, we're still living through a pandemic. Remote work is... You hear that? They want to work remotely. That's part of their beef. Part of the negotiation. We find it ridiculous that the company is maintaining this position, that it has a unilateral right to call us back in. five days a week. I thought the New York Times respected unions, so what happened there? You'll have to ask them. That's an excellent question. I would love an answer to that as well. Excellent question. We'd love to hear what the management has to say about that. That's a very good question. We thought the New York Times respected unions too. What happens to the New York Times when you guys are on strike? We'll find out. We have said we're not going to write stories. We have photo people, we have electricians, other people in the building who are not working today. They have

1:45:46 to figure it out on their own. I am refusing to write. I'm refusing to respond to edits. I imagine they're having quite a hard time putting the publication together. The New York Times can't run without the people who run the New York Times. And management needs to know that. So it's really about remote working, sounds like to me. More than money. It's on the table, they say. It's remote working. No one wants to work. Well, you're not gonna... And you know what? I'm gonna call it now. New York Times building burns. It's downtown, isn't it? Where is the New York Times building? I think it's downtown. It's in the Broadway Theater District. It will burn. It will burn. Just put it in the Red Book. This is what Build Back Better is all about. We have to burn it before you can build back better. The riots, the BLM riots, ha ha ha. Just a taste, people.

CHAPTER 26 / 40 Discussion

Green Hydrogen, African Energy Projects, Electrolysis

German Economy Minister Robert Habeck visited Namibia and South Africa to promote green hydrogen projects as an alternative to Russian gas. The hosts critique a small-scale pilot project in South Africa, arguing that the energy required for electrolysis makes it an inefficient and impractical solution for large-scale power needs. They label the push for African hydrogen as "green energy imperialism."

green hydrogen· namibia· south africa· robert habeck· electrolysis

1:46:38 Just a taste. In the meantime, what we need to do is now we need to set up the new scam so that we can make as much money as possible from the Green New Deal bullcrap and the European Union way ahead of the curve. But don't worry, we'll catch up. And this is, of course, the Green Hydrogen Scam. Here's Deutsche Welle. Could Africa become a leader in supplying green fuel to the world? Aha! Let's go to Africa! That question has become even more relevant as Russia continues its invasion of Ukraine, creating disruption in Europe's energy supplies.

1:47:20 Germany is one of the countries scrambling for alternatives, including from the African continent. This week, the country's Minister of Economy and Climate, Robert Habeck, visited two nations in Southern Africa, Namibia and South Africa, both of which are looking toward green hydrogen fuel production. In Namibia, Habek supported a $10 billion hydrogen project from a German firm. There are, however, concerns that Africa will not fully benefit or be in control of its own green energy resources. But Habek was quick to allay those fears, saying, the last thing we should accept is some kind of green energy imperialism.

1:48:01 Yeah, well that's exactly what's going to happen and as witnessed in Africa's first green hydrogen project. Now we just need to remind everybody there's multiple types of hydrogen. The idea that as far as we can tell, and this is pretty new, this just started up, you'd never heard about it before, it was all electric, electric, solar, solar, the wind, and now it's hydrogen. Well it was peaking, it was There was a foot in the door for years. We've heard about the hydrogen economy, we paid no attention to it. Because what they say and what they want is electrolysis to create hydrogen created by sunlight and wind and that's just not going to happen. It takes a lot more energy.

1:48:48 But it doesn't matter, we have our first marketing test site in Africa with green hydrogen. What is green hydrogen and how can this clean fuel benefit Africa? Let's get a better understanding from one project in South Africa. How can we benefit from it? Silly Africans, don't you know you're not going to benefit? It's here, at a small site around 150 miles north of Cape Town, that we get a glimpse of what South Africa's energy future could look like. This is one of the country's first green hydrogen projects, and it all works using the power of the sun rather than fossil fuels like coal or oil. Now I just got to set this up because of course you don't have visuals. What you're going to see

1:49:32 is a solar farm, there's maybe 50 cells and this one guy, apparently the only guy who works there is wiping off some dust off the cells. Then he goes inside to a 19-inch rack, which you typically have a server, and there's this little box. And in this little box, green hydrogen is being made, because that's how little you can actually make with the solar arrays in this project. These two electrolysis takes, they get the energy from the sun and then we supply them with pure water and the process of electrolysis takes place in these two electrolysis tanks. And when electrolysis happens here, water is split into hydrogen and oxygen.

1:50:26 The facility is only producing a small amount of green hydrogen right now. No kidding. But they are already planning to expand to a bigger commercial site. It's a renewable energy source that is seen as vital in the world's shift away from fossil fuels and African countries are perfectly placed to lead the way. Production is especially suited to areas with plenty of sunshine that are less densely populated. But it has to be done on a large scale and the cost to put the infrastructure in place will be huge. So lots still to do with many questions remaining too over whether South Africa is ready to take advantage. Oh, advantage, okay.

CHAPTER 27 / 40 Discussion

Rotterdam Hydrogen Hub, BMW Hydrogen Car, Battery Failure

The Port of Rotterdam is positioning itself as a major distribution hub for the European hydrogen economy, hosting the World Hydrogen Summit in 2023. BMW has developed a car that runs on liquid hydrogen, though the hosts point out the impracticality of storing fuel at 325 degrees below zero. The shift toward hydrogen is framed as a response to the perceived failure of current battery technology.

rotterdam· hydrogen summit· bmw· liquid hydrogen· battery technology

1:51:07 So that's just not going to happen. The only thing you can imagine is, yeah, if you blanket all of South Africa or the entire continent of Africa with solar panels, yeah, maybe, maybe, but one thing's for sure, the city of Rotterdam in the Netherlands is a giant player in this scam. Now Rotterdam has a very important port. It used to really be for coal and for gas. There was a lot of natural gas in the North Sea. That's just been ignored because for over a decade the Dutch are saying no gas, no gas, we're gonna stop with the gas, don't build houses with it, it's got to be electric. It's all got to be electricity.

1:51:48 So gas has been abandoned, but now they're going to be the port, the distribution center for all things hydrogen. And believe me Dutch listeners, Dutch producers, you're going to pay for this. And it's not going to work and you're going to get screwed. It's going to take decades before anything that even resembles a green hydrogen economy. Here's the mayor of Rotterdam promoting the World Hydrogen Summit 2023 which will be in May in, of all places, Rotterdam. Well what I said this morning in the opening remarks is that we are now on the edge of what I call the fourth civilization transition. Not only the energy transition, we're moving to something very special.

1:52:29 As we did when we come from the Stone Age to the steam or from the steam to the electricity. This is a huge phenomenon. John, do you hear what he's saying? This is like coming out of the Stone Age to electricity. Please just tell everybody again, this is bullcrap. It's not going to happen. What? No, I... It's not gonna happen because it's impractical, but let's look at the most impractical thing. I don't want to stop you and then cut back with my whatever it is I say. Just do it. BMW, there's a bunch of videos of this thing on the YouTube. BMW came up with the hydrogen car.

1:53:15 that uses liquid hydrogen. Liquid hydrogen, okay. Have you heard about this? No, is that a driving bomb? Is that the Pinto of the future? Is that what that is? So they've invented these tanks that are like triple, you know, they're insulated so you can put liquid hydrogen in the tank. Nice. And then it's also got to get, and the engine, I don't know how they managed to pull this off, but they've tuned the engine so it works on both hydrogen Liquid hydrogen goes it has to be heated up of course to be to go into the engine But if you run out of the hydrogen then you can use gasoline, so it's kind of a different kind of a hybrid Oh Really, but it's not like the guy who has the Corvette he also had hydrogen tanks, but then there was some there's some element this hydrogen

1:54:03 has to be heated before it starts to work. Well, if it's liquid hydrogen, you definitely have to warm it up because otherwise it's useless. Our new hydrogen is explosive! But the thing about it is that, okay, you've got this technology to work and it probably cost a lot of money to do that and I'm sure that the shareholders of the auto work company shouldn't be pleased and it shows you can do it, you can do anything if you want to, but What would you, where would you get this liquid hydrogen to fill your tank? From the hydrogen store. They've already had enough trouble getting regular hydrogen to fill tanks, let alone liquid hydrogen. How do you make- It's ridiculous. And by the way, one last thing, if the car sits for like about five to seven weeks, the hydrogen just boils off. It's gone. How do you make liquid hydrogen? Is that something you- You just take hydrogen, you compress it and put it, and get it colder and colder. It's like everything else.

1:55:01 It's like a vapor that turns into liquid at the right temperature, but the right temperature is like 325, I'm not sure what it is, but it's around 325 degrees below zero. It's a very low temperature. So the reason why this is happening is not because we're also jacked on hydrogen, it's the battery technology has failed. Elon has failed. Elon has not brought us better battery technology and the story is running thin and they needed a new story and in essence they're taking electricity created by windmills and solar panels, turning it into

CHAPTER 28 / 40 Discussion

Airbus Hydrogen Plane, False Civilization Transition, Port of Rotterdam

Airbus announced plans to test a hydrogen-powered A380, the world's largest passenger aircraft. The Mayor of Rotterdam characterized the shift to hydrogen as a "fourth civilization transition" comparable to the move from the Stone Age to electricity. The hosts remain skeptical of the science, citing the poor power-to-weight ratio of hydrogen fuel cells for aviation.

airbus a380· hydrogen plane· rotterdam· energy transition· fuel cells

1:55:39 a hydrogen battery that you then can store for some time and then can use in your vehicles for generating electricity again. It is one of the most inefficient ways of going about this. And we predict will not even work for another 10 years because it's always been 10 years before this thing works. Everything's 10 years. Except for that little 19 inch rack in South Africa. Okay. I mean, hey, I had a hydroxy booster on my car. Yeah, you can do stuff, but it's not really going to power your home. Now if you didn't think the BMW was nutty enough with the liquid hydrogen, Airbus claims that they're going to do a... A plane doing it, yeah. A 380! Not just any old plane. But they're gonna somehow power a 3A380, which is the biggest

1:56:32 passenger plane in the world. It's monstrous, double-decker, looks like it's like a ocean-going cruiser. And they're somehow going to power one with hydrogen. Now I read, when I was reading the report, I was thinking maybe this is pretty bogus because they were claiming that they were gonna do it with fuel cells, which means it has to be electrical engines. So what, are they gonna have 50 engines on this thing? This actually goes against all science. The power to weight ratio is what you need to look at. This goes against all science, unless you want to save the world from horrible, dirty Russian oil and gas.

1:57:15 I'm gonna go back to the mayor of Rotterdam just so we can... So we already discussed with him that this is... No, I gotta play it again. This is like going from the Stone Age! Well, what I said this morning, the opening remarks, is that we are now on the edge of what I call the false civilization transition. Not only the energy transition... It's the false energy transition. Something very special. As we did when we come from the stone age to the steam or from the steam to the electricity This is a huge phenomenon. Wait a minute. He went from steam to electricity. He skipped. What did he skip? He skipped the internal combustion engine We went from steam to electricity overnight

1:57:58 We come from the stone age to the steam or from the steam to the electricity. This is a huge phenomenon. And it's therefore that the industry, the knowledge, the scientific sector, but also local, regional and national governments have to work together to accelerate this process. to become as soon as possible independent from what I call the complicated energy sources of the world like the Middle East and Russia. I think that we are now in a crucial phase in the Netherlands. This government with Minister Jetten is really moving fast forward to make an end to what I call a kind of hesitating climate, who is to win what first.

1:58:38 The industry, the sciences, the cities, the region, the national government, has now I think the moment to focus on collaborating and bringing all these forces together. And what I ask the minister is when it comes to the port of Rotterdam and to the city, this is the major place to do the work, not only for the consumption as we have large industry, but also for the distribution as we have the infrastructure. Trust on Rotterdam, trust on the port, trust on the companies and let's help you to accelerate this process within the coming six, seven, eight years. I think it's really important this summit because it will bring the demand and the production together. There will be a complete new players in the world when it comes to hydrogen. Morocco, Chile, Australia. Morocco, Chile, Australia. Interesting.

CHAPTER 29 / 40 Discussion

Dutch Hydrogen Scam, Rob Jetten, Windmill Subsidies

Dutch Minister for Climate and Energy Rob Jetten is aggressively promoting the development of a hydrogen market in the Netherlands. The hosts compare this to previous windmill subsidy programs, which they claim primarily benefited politicians and captains of industry through private LLCs. They argue that the "green" transition is a financial scam designed to capture government subsidies.

rob jetten· netherlands· hydrogen market· subsidies· windmills

1:59:33 No South Africa, no South Africa. Two shorter clips from his... How about the Sahara? Yeah. Well, it has to benefit the host country, because otherwise they don't want... Everyone has to be a part of the scam. And that's what it is. It's a scam. It's bullcrap. Here's these are two short ones. This is the regional minister. She's the the Minister of the province of South Holland, which is where Rotterdam is so of course she's also here to promote. Well hydrogen is the issue at this moment of course with the energy independency that we need in Europe with a turmoil that is going on in the world So energy independence is what we need in Europe with the trouble that's going on in the world,

2:00:18 This isn't even making sense at face value. This is the momentum. This is the momentum. Of course we have been discussing hydrogen. That's what she got. She wants the momentum. We get the money and we can go give it to our friends and our donors. The momentum. Of course we have been discussing hydrogen for years. How can the industry get green power, green energy, but also how can we contribute to inland shipping and greening of inland shipping. What we do as a province of South Holland with the RIME project, but also public transport. So there are many issues that we need to address and this is the place and the platform to do it.

2:00:58 You are full of shit, I think. But anyway, let's go to the Minister for Climate and Energy. Now this is a young dude. And this dude is up to no good. He's the, what's his name? Rob Yetten. Rob Yetten. And he's a little go-getter, this one is. I strongly believe that 2022 can be the breakthrough year for the hydrogen market. In the Netherlands we will invest rapidly in the infrastructure and the electrolysis capacity. We're working together with the port of Rotterdam to create import and export change with countries all around the world producing green hydrogen. step up the game together with the European Commission to create the perfect conditions for an internationally hydrogen market. Well it's wonderful to see that over 6,000 people are visiting this World Hydrogen Summit and I really hope that people get inspired, get new connections to step up our game to create this hydrogen market as soon as possible. Step up our game. That means spend your money, Dutch people. Step up our game.

2:02:00 I've seen this kind of stuff happen so many times in my life. It's just so irksome and disgusting. They are full of crap, they lie. Just lying to you. Oh, this is going to be the year 2022. This is the year. This is it. This is where you and I differ and I'm older. Okay. I don't believe they're lying. I think they're dead sincere. They've been sold a bill of goods. They're basically stupid. They have no scientific background, none of them. I mean, this is the classic anybody, but all these environmentalists, they've never taken a science, they don't know physics, that's for sure. Very few have a degree in it. And they're hook, line, and sinker. It's just unbelievable. They're just led down to Primrose Path and down they go and they,

2:02:47 They don't even get in on the scam. I mean somebody does but it's not these idiots and that little guy you're talking about is gonna end up making no money on the deal. Well the Dutch were really big on the windmills of course, you know it's kind of a Dutch thing and what we found out 15 years ago It was probably about 10-15 years ago that every single giant windmill in the Netherlands is its own LLC and has a captain of industry and politicians as the owners of the LLC and they were all getting this subsidy money.

2:03:25 So they know how to scam in the Netherlands. They do, they know. I'm sure they do, but it's not everyone. No, and of course I'm not going to disagree because there's so much that politicians get hoodwinked into and they believe it. And of course this is coming from Queen Ursula herself. She has to believe it. She has to. She has to believe it. Anyway. Yeah, I'm sure she does. Eh, a little disturbing. Well, it'll be fun to watch. By the way, I watched just a transition to nothing, okay? Transitioning out. I watched the first episode of the Meghan Markle Harry Netflix show. Oh, I want to hear the review because I was hoping to do that myself and I never got around to it. And the reason why is I hear so many people who hate her. Like Meghan Kelly, every five minutes she's bitching about Meghan Markle, Meghan Markle. It must be something about this show that is just really pissing people off.

CHAPTER 30 / 40 Discussion

Harry and Meghan Netflix Review, Princess Diana Comparison

Adam Curry reviews the first episode of the Harry and Meghan documentary on Netflix, comparing Meghan Markle's media strategy to that of Princess Diana. He suggests that Markle is "abusing the media" for her own ego and predicts a negative outcome for her relationship with the Royal Family. The discussion touches on the couple's meeting via Instagram and the public's polarized reaction to the series.

harry and meghan· netflix· meghan markle· princess diana· megyn kelly

2:04:26 So I watched the first episode and I get it 100% and I can tell you exactly what's gonna happen. Okay. She's gonna get killed. Meghan Markle, she's got a mark, she's gonna be killed. The whole thing is, I'm like Diana. I didn't realize it was so hard. I had to do all this stuff, it's such a show. They didn't like me, they hated me. The royal family, blah, blah, blah. And she always talks about her husband as H. Well, you know, H, because you can't say Harry, because it's very hard to say Harry. It has to be code, code, yeah, H. H and M, H and M, yes.

2:05:03 So you want to be like Diana? Look, the thing she's saying, the firm, the enterprise, whatever you want to call it, the royal machinery, they will kill her. Oh, they're dangerous. They will kill anybody. That's a fairly well-known fact. Yes, and then I'll be Harry's out, then he can go back and come back into the institution. Something horrible is going to happen and she deserves it because she is making this. She deserves it. Now you know where every... Well, now you're going to have to get... I was going to refuse to watch this thing, but now... Wait, you just wait. You go, I can't wait to see the next one. She deserves it.

2:05:49 Okay, that's maybe what I'm saying is my basic rule of media is if you abuse the media for your own benefit for your own ego for your own benefit to be beneficial to your own position comes down it comes like a back as a boomerang but these people if you look at all the Diana documentaries at the end she She was calling the press, making sure that the shot was just right. Hey, I've been through this before myself. I've been severely burned by media after I abused it for my... And I learned real quick early on, you don't do it, it's very dangerous. She's gone to such a degree, it's D2, man. It's Diana plus. She better stop. I like D2. D2, she has to repent. That is a show title. D2. She's not gonna stop. There's no way. She's a psycho.

2:06:36 Yeah. She's a user. She's got, she's got into this thing. And her friends are psychos. Her friends are psychos. No, the psychos all hang out together. I was talking, I was following somebody, uh, we were talking to, I think we talked about this kind of offline and I talked with Mimi about this, some of these Instagrammers and the number of psychos that are on Instagram. Which is how they met, by the way. H and M met. Yes. Yes, he was introduced to her via Instagram by some third party. He always started DMing on Instagram.

2:07:19 Yeah, I got kind of sidetracked because I was reading a bunch of different, just normal research and I ran into a piece about Brad Pitt and his ex-girlfriend who's this Victoria's Secret model who's one of these Instagrammer nut jobs. And he couldn't, he said she wasn't his intellectual equal. Of course, he's 30 and he's 60, but okay. And so he ran off with someone younger. We felt better about but it wasn't really so much the intellectualism. It was this Instagram thing He says she was too much into social media. He made this comment. Mmm-hmm. Oh, so I said well I gotta check this out So I check all it was was what millions she was nice nice shape by the way, nice figure but endless pictures of herself

2:08:09 In every imaginable pose, in every imaginable makeup job. Hey, Scott Adams should get in on that action. Scott Adams got burned once and that was about it. But this is like, but you start looking into this and you see these people and it's like, There used to be some sort of breaking mechanism to keep this from happening and they build themselves up. She has a podcast. No! Oh goodness. But who doesn't? Yeah, everyone has a podcast. So they got a podcast and it's like, but it's, I get the sense that this woman is one of these self-absorbed, me-me-me, psycho chicks. Yes, yes, yes, yes.

2:08:57 Dad, well I have not to watch this. You've somehow through a negative review managed to get probably half the listenership to want to watch it. Five stars for this document. This is five stars. Five stars all the way. Oh yeah. I can't wait to watch two and three. I don't know how many episodes there are but it's a gift that keeps on giving. And I will, I have to put hand in my own bosom. and say, I look at Harry and how he responds when he's doing the interviews with her. Total cuck. I myself was a bit like that with my ex-wife. So I'm recognizing. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's like me how I can recognize a choke artist. Right. But yeah.

CHAPTER 31 / 40 Discussion

Catastrophic Contagion, SEERS 2025, Tabletop Exercise

The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, in partnership with the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, conducted a tabletop exercise titled "Catastrophic Contagion" in October 2022. The simulation focuses on a fictional pandemic caused by "Severe Epidemic Enterovirus Respiratory Syndrome 2025" (SEERS). The exercise models a virus originating in Latin America that specifically impacts children and young people.

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2:09:45 Okay, well then you know why Megyn Kelly hates her. Yeah, but Megyn doesn't have to... I mean, I just think Megyn's way above this. Why would she even bother? Megyn just looks like she should be above it, but I don't think she's... Yeah, for some reason. She's kind of a neighborhood gal, really. I really like her. I hope she asks me back on the show again. No, you're... I'm done. I pissed her off. You're done. Boy, you probably pissed off her booker. Her booker? No, her booker's the one that keeps telling me, yeah, yeah, we'll have you back one day. And then I don't hear from her for weeks. Well, then you know you're never going to get back. I'm toast. I'm toast. I'm toast. You're right. I'm toast. I'm toast. We used to pull that stunt on Silicon Spin. Have you heard about catastrophic contagion? Oh, God, no. I know. I know. And I'm pissed because we should have been all over this previously. Catastrophic contagion took place in

2:10:44 October of this year brought to you by the same people who brought us event 201 They did another tabletop exercise for yet another Pandemic for 2025 is when this is scheduled Okay, and I have a clip. Here's a compilation of catastrophic contagion the tabletop exercise for 2025 This, by the way, is their own marketing material. Officials in two Latin American countries alerted the WHO of several outbreaks of a new infectious disease that's mysteriously appearing across the region. Severe Epidemic Enterovirus Respiratory Syndrome 2025. Okay, severe, what kind of?

2:11:41 What kind of virus did he call it? It was a retrovirus, wasn't it? Which makes no sense. Region, severe epidemic entrovirus. Entrovirus. Entrovirus. Entrovirus. Okay. Severe. Let me look that up. I know what it is. Severe epidemic entrovirus. Entero. It's E-N-T-E-R-O. I've seen this. I've seen this. Severe, severe. Okay, well, you look it up. We'll continue. Respiratory syndrome 2025. Over the past six weeks alone, there have been 500 confirmed or suspected cases reported. The virus could cause a severe pandemic if early containment and mitigation efforts are not successful. We need two weeks to flatten the curve. What you got? Okay, here we go. Enter a virus is a

2:12:28 a genus of positive sense, single-stranded RNA viruses associated with several human and mammalian diseases. Now I'm going to read this in the short version. Most people who get infected with, now polio is an enterovirus. Ooh, nice. So we already have the hook. Enteroviruses... It's in, it's in, the hook is in. Paul Yank! Most people who get infected with non-polio enteroviruses do not get sick or they only have mild illness like the common cold again. COVID, common cold, blah blah blah, which is a rhinovirus, which we haven't had that, they can't weaponize that.

2:13:15 Symptoms of mild illness can include fever, runny nose, sneezing, cough, skin rash, mouth blisters and body and muscle aches. So we have to assume that somebody probably one of Fauci's operations in connection with some of these labs, many of course the ones in the Ukraine have been blowed up by the Russians. We don't even talk about that. Some oh by the way some of these lower classification includes Coxsackie. Anyone has kids? Yeah, Christina had it. It's very scary. It's a scary disease and a couple of other things but

2:13:52 They're working on a weaponized version of this obviously somewhere. Boston. Maybe in South America. Well, before I continue with the clip, there's a whole website with good little nuggets here. It appears that a great number of health care workers will be needed in eastern Venezuela in 2025. The acronym by the way will be SEERS, S-E-E-R-S, Severe Epidemic Enterovirus Respiratory Syndrome. Sears. S-E-E-R-S. Hey, wait, it's a little too close to SARS. I would nix that if I was in the meeting. You know, you're not in the meeting. Let's see, we have, of course, sponsored by John Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. Oh, yeah. And it looks like it really kicks off in 2025 around

2:14:53 Just the end of September, around October is when it really hits. This is their tabletop. There's a whole bunch of interesting things here if you want to if you want to learn about the exercise and just be prepared for 2025. By the way, it doesn't mean it happens in 2025. Could be next year. No, it could be any time. It could be 2026 because to get something like this started, they're going to have to do it in the wintertime down there. Yeah, well, let's get back to the compilation here. Cause a severe pandemic if early containment and mitigation efforts are not successful. Flatten the curve.

CHAPTER 32 / 40 Discussion

Pandemic Preparedness, Tom Daschle, Communication Strategies

Participants in the Catastrophic Contagion exercise, including former Senator Tom Daschle, discussed the importance of national leadership and "regional solidarity" in pandemic response. The simulation emphasized the need for coordinated communication between scientists and political leaders to maintain public trust. Critics argue these exercises serve to "inoculate" the public for future lockdowns and mandates.

tom daschle· who· pandemic preparedness· communication· tabletop exercise

2:15:30 Pandemics are inherently political, financial, and so much broader. in country. And I think that we need to be also very careful. We cannot decide a lot of things without the leaders being involved and agree on that. There is no substitute for national leadership. It's important to support the local response and the national response. Training those that are in these areas first

2:16:07 enabling them with the tools, protecting them, and if need be, regional solidarity first. At this stage, communication is key, and communication should include not just scientists with data, but also social, religious, and political leaders. Trust. This is an essential issue, and trust was broken among countries between populations and healthcare systems, between healthcare systems and governments. I'm very sorry to say that in 2025 we need to strengthen the health system. WHO needs to be a voice for the voiceless. No one is safe until all of us are safe.

2:16:50 As of today, there have been an estimated 1 billion cases worldwide, with more than 20 million deaths, including nearly 15 million children. Countless millions are alive, but left with paralysis or brain damage. The most successful countries are those which invested in preparedness and trained for this moment years in advance. This included having full-time pandemic preparedness and response teams, which conducted detailed operational planning and routinely tested those plants through exercises and drills. If more countries had participated and heeded the guidance, the toll might have been much less. There you go. I was just looking up some enterovirus news stories. CDC warns about rhinovirus and enterovirus D68. I don't know what that is,

2:17:47 I don't see any vaccines yet. Here's the Pfizer product list. I wonder if they have an enterovirus. There's a polio vaccine so you should be able to have... Yeah, you'd think. Well, I'm sure they're gearing it up. Let's figure it out. Second clip is... A little shorter here, just about the value of doing these kinds of exercises, which is mainly to scare the crap out of us, I guess. What makes an exercise really, really valuable is if it's firstly well planned and thought through, but then if the results of that exercise are thought about and then changes that are suggested by what we learn are actually implemented. Most of us don't respond well if we face something that's rare and catastrophic. It's almost like inoculating them

2:18:38 Exercises are a form of inoculation for emergencies. Oh man, this is so good. It's like mRNA for your brain. Start to bring together people that need to respond to the crisis but they've never met each other before. They don't usually work with each other. And people from different departments getting to know... Say what? Why'd she laugh right there in the middle of that? She's full of crap. But they've never met each other before. Because they didn't. I think what she's saying is because they did meet each other before. They've all met to plan the exercise. It's a lie. It's a lie. Laugh. That need to respond to the crisis, but they've never met each other before. They don't usually work with each other. And people from different departments getting to know each other and learning to cooperate. She says they never met each other.

2:19:32 Then she follows that up with they don't usually work together. Wait a minute It's one or the other if they've never met each other then they've never worked together So they it's not that they don't usually work together. They never work together. So this is a lie. You're right. You cut she's lying that need to respond to the crisis, but they've never met each other before. They don't usually work with each other. And people from different departments getting to know each other and learning to cooperate really helped. So different sorts of exercises that I've participated in have included all government agencies here in Australia working together to work through the consequences

2:20:15 of pandemic. I've participated in several of those. The value comes in the, not only the learning, but the interaction that you have with others. This exercise was particularly valuable because it catalyzed, it brought together the essence of What can we do to be prepared for a situation that is, per definition, unpredictable? That interactive experience and working with people who can contribute and who can add new perspectives is something that I think is of great value. Do you know who that is speaking? Who was one of the participants? No. Tom Daschle? Oh, that idiot. Lobbyist extraordinaire?

CHAPTER 33 / 40 Discussion

Australian COVID Fine Refunds, Grant Wahl Death

The New South Wales Supreme Court ruled that tens of thousands of COVID-19 restriction fines were invalid due to technicalities, leading to $30 million in potential refunds. Separately, the sudden death of American sports journalist Grant Wahl at the World Cup in Qatar is discussed. While official reports cite a ruptured aortic aneurysm, the hosts note the media's focus on his detention for a rainbow shirt and his recent health complaints.

australia· covid fines· supreme court· grant wahl· qatar

2:21:08 Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I'm a congressperson. And he was Secretary of Health and Human Services for Obama. Yeah, so great. He's got the Daschle Group. Well, believe me, he's not just there just to hang out. Because money. Tom Daschle is there because... Tom Daschle is a guy who knows how to make money. Mm-hmm. He does. Well, you brought this whole thing. I do have two COVID clips. Well, let me lead you into it. and this will, this kind of follows on from what they're talking about here because you know we were so smart and so good with COVID it's certainly in Australia that you know we have to give everybody their money back. Tens of thousands of fines issued for COVID restriction breaches at the height of the pandemic

2:22:01 have today been ruled invalid, the Supreme Court overturning them on a technicality. 33,000 penalties totaling more than $30 million have now been cancelled, with anyone who has paid entitled to a refund. Based from the beach, penalised at the park, tens of thousands of fines handed out over months of harsh lockdowns now cancelled. Today in the Supreme Court David Kell, the barrister for the Police Commissioner, declared two fines issued for breaches to the public health order would no longer be enforced, stating they do not sufficiently state or describe the offences in general terms. That ruling on just two fines now means

2:22:46 33,121 will be withdrawn. There you go. No. Okay, clip number one. Maybe I don't know. Maybe this isn't about COVID but play this one sudden death. Uh, okay. Oh yes. Good evening. It's good to be with you. Good to be with you. We begin tonight with the sudden death of prominent American sports journalist Grant Wall. Wow. Is this from NTD? No. I love, because you know, the documentary died suddenly and now they're using sudden death?

CHAPTER 34 / 40 Discussion

Grant Wahl, Qatar World Cup, Eva Kaili Scandal

The circumstances surrounding Grant Wahl's death in Qatar are examined, including his brother's initial claims of foul play. The discussion also mentions the arrest of European Parliament Vice President Eva Kaili in a major corruption scandal involving Qatari lobbying. The hosts speculate on the "spooky" nature of high-level sports journalism and international diplomacy.

grant wahl· qatar· world cup· eva kaili· european parliament

2:23:31 They're trying to screw up the search algo. Walt was in Qatar covering the World Cup when he suffered what's described as acute distress and collapsed in the press box according to his agent. The incident happened inside the Lusail Stadium during the waning minutes of the World Cup quarterfinal match between Argentina and the Netherlands. Fellow journalist Keir Radnidge was sitting nearby. The medics were there very quickly. And they, you know, worked with him for, I don't know, 20-30 minutes before he was taken on a stretcher. Wall was transported to a nearby hospital in Doha, where he was declared dead. While the circumstances of his death remain unclear, Wall said on his podcast just two days ago that he'd not been feeling well. So I've had a case of bronchitis this week.

2:24:18 I've been to the medical clinic at the media center twice now, including today. Wall was instrumental in helping grow the sport of soccer in the U.S. through his coverage of the game. Grant Wall was 48 years old. I don't know, maybe it was, I don't know, just drop dead, it happens. Well, there's a number of things. First of all, he was quote-unquote detained for showing his support for LGBTQ, for the LGBTQ community. Yeah, that was actually in this report. I would have left it in the clip, but I thought it was, I didn't think it was important. Well, the reason why I bring it up is because, now if you look at this guy, if you look at his brother, if you look at his family, there's a reasonable expectation that he was fully vaxxed and boosted.

2:25:02 And instead of saying that this is possibly a vaccine adverse event or a vaccine accident, instead of saying that, no, no, no, we have to write everywhere, well he was probably killed because homosexuality is illegal in Qatar. They probably killed him. Yeah, well I haven't seen any of that. It's all in the show notes. You can go ahead and take a look at it. And what I would add to that is they're stupid. The obvious reason that he had severe distress is because of the referee whistle. We know this is what spurs a spurns a spurns on heart attacks and he was just all around the referee whistle. Well you know what was interesting to me on this clip which was completely overlooked and it was nobody made a fuss over, the report of his death was filed by his agent. Now I know a lot of writers

2:25:59 and even sports writers, which one of them, who amongst them has an agent? Unless they're doing work for Hollywood or they're doing Nobody, I mean even when you're doing books you have an agent for that book, but you don't have some agent as your spokesperson I find that very peculiar. That is interesting. Have we looked at his book of knowledge entry? Have we have we checked to see if there's something? Let me just take a look for a second what is what was he doing that would possibly warrant an agent. Let's see, sports journalist, soccer analyst, author of the book The Beckham Experiment. That was 2009, so he may have been working on a new book possibly. He's an Eagle Scout, Eagle Scout Princeton. Oh, oh, a fellow Eagle Scout. That changes stuff a little bit, doesn't it? Yes, it does. Let's see. Any spooky stuff in there?

2:26:58 What any spooky stuff? I don't see anything necessarily By the way, there was there was a big scandal about around the the World Cup the an EU vice president has been arrested and for the Qatar lobbying scandal which of course yes yes she's and she looks like she was a Mata Hari type lady if you know what I'm talking about she's yes I looked at a lot of her pictures just to see what she looked like and what do you think I don't know what to think about her

CHAPTER 35 / 40 Discussion

World Cup Predictions, Morocco, COVID Booster Authorization

The hosts discuss the World Cup semi-finals, predicting a potential final between Argentina and Morocco. In health news, the FDA authorized COVID-19 bivalent boosters for children as young as six months old. The CDC is expected to follow with approval, which the hosts interpret as a move to secure funding and push for renewed masking in schools.

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2:27:35 And so I never got any clips or didn't do anything on it. Okay, well let's just let this guy slide. Okay, but let me just say one thing about the World Cup before we finish. Can I just say something? World Cup. I've been watching the World Cup. It's no less interesting to our viewers as sumo, so give me a minute. I knew the Netherlands would choke, they always choke. Good to see the US side, as we call it, the US side with an actual shot. I completely was disappointed by Poland. I really thought they would eke it out. They were the clear winner with the Ukraine situation. Now it looks like it's going to be France. And who will it be? Do we know who France is going to play? Argentina. Are they going to play Argentina?

2:28:19 Well, there's more I think no, I think they're playing Morocco Morocco, right? Morocco is gonna win this thing Is there a political reason or just because they're good? I'll tell you what the political reason is because it's obvious when you when you think about it Okay, you got France Morocco. Then you have one other match, which is the Croatia Argentina match now Argentina should be the strongest team. They're South American. They're probably the Croatians and Even though the Brazilian should have and then the Argentine is like to do it beat them when their Brazilians didn't they'll go out and beat him and so it'd be Argentina versus Morocco I think in the finals and Morocco is the Muslim country. Ah But it could be it could also be Croatia because we have not a Muslim country No, I'm just saying we have the next matches are Argentina Croatia and Morocco France

2:29:06 Yeah, Croatia is not beating Argentina. Let's end that discussion. Okay, so you're saying it has to be the Muslim country that wins? Yeah. And what kind of Muslims are they in Qatar? Are they Moroccan Muslims? No, they're Muslims. It's the ummah. All Muslims are part of the same great ummah. I thought you had the... no, you had the... Yeah, you got your... Sunni, you got the Sunni... You got the Sunni, you got the Shiites, and you got the 10 or 11 other little sects, but that doesn't matter. Morocco is a Sufi. The Sufis are in Morocco. No, Sufis are a very small sect. Yeah, but they're in Morocco. Well, there's Sufis everywhere.

2:29:46 In fact, if you really go deep into it, you'll find that Ben Laden was actually a Sufi. It takes a little work. It takes a little work, but you'll find it. Okay, the second clip I have for COVID is the COVID kid shots, just to let us know. It's only a short clip. that you're gonna get shots. The US Food and Drug Administration authorized COVID booster shots today for children as young as six months old. The Pfizer and Moderna boosters target both the original virus and the Omicron sub-variants. The shots will be available once the CDC gives its approval. But wait. Hold on a second. Wait. Wait. FDA approved it, so get the shots out. What does the CDC have to... Do they approve every virus shot?

CHAPTER 37 / 40 Discussion

Birthday Shoutouts, Knighting Ceremony, Signet Rings

The show concludes with birthday shoutouts for listeners and a formal knighting ceremony for new producers. New knights include Sir Hank, Sir Nathan, and Sir Bohemian Butcher. The hosts discuss the distribution of signet rings and certificates of authenticity for the No Agenda peerage.

birthday· knighthood· signet rings· no agenda nation· black knights

2:34:19 So it's like the people bring these their own bags and the bags that look like they've never been washed and they're grimy and they're beat up. The mask was dirty and it had smear marks on it and it looked like it was wet down at the bottom. It was disgusting. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. On no agenda In the morning And we have a very few people to thank. We're gonna try to get some more, about 20. But donations may pick up for Christmas, those Christmas gifts. And don't forget you can become a Christmas knight. That's right. Jesse Maxwell in Fiddleton, California leads the way and at the top of the list is 8008. And it's a birthday call out with Kevin McLaughlin following in close pursuit with 8008 in Locust, North Carolina, boobs.

2:35:20 Catherine Morona in Los Angeles, California, 60, and another birthday call out, mentions her boyfriend's a big fan of the show. I saw in your website about a special mention on your show of someone donates 50, and she actually never listens to the show, obviously. But hi, Catherine. If you're listening for the birthday boys call out, Daniel Smith, Dayton, Ohio, 55, 10, Annette Smith, Stoogar Garde in Odense, Denmark. 55. Awesome show. Thank you. Brett Hahn in Medford, New Jersey. 53. 33. Bad idea supply.

2:36:09 Love it. Look at that one up. $50.50. Is that a consultancy? Chance Barrett or Barnett, I'm sorry, Chance Barnett, San Angelo, Texas, 5001. And then we go with the $50 donors right away. Well, actually, I'm sorry, Alexander Beatty is also at 5001. Then we go to the $50 donors starting with Christopher, Christopher Rivera's, I don't know how to pronounce that last name. ZXC I think Rivera's the last name I don't know what that is. Netherland, Colorado 50. Jim

2:36:48 Andrea Nacos in Glenview, Illinois. Richard Grabowski in Lynchburg, North Carolina. Greg Fierak in Chicago. Nadia Borg in San Marcos, California. Jessica Emig in Moccasin, Montana. And this is on behalf of her fiance, Nason. He loves the show. Okay. Hi, Nason. David Sweninger in Woodbridge, Virginia. Margarita Edenhood in Orangevale, California. Corey Cunningham in Warrington, Virginia. Gavin McGoldrick in San Francisco along with Philip Kim, also in San Francisco. Jim Perotti, Walla Papering.

2:37:38 Wow, what a name. Walter Burrow, South Carolina wraps it up with our total of all donors today was only 29 of them. Hopefully this will start to pick up. I want to thank these folks for making show 1511 work. And I looked at Bad Idea Supply, badideasupply.com. I would say this has a Possibly Sir Gene written all over it. So a bad idea supply company has a number of interesting products. They have the Pyro Campfire Pit, which is some cool looking thing. It has a minimalist wallet. It has wearables. They only have a couple of products, but this is, huh? I don't know. I think this is something that... Well, the fire pit's always a bad idea, but they're fun.

2:38:31 Who needs any more than that? The ultimate portable free pit for camping and cooking. You gotta see that thing. Pretty interesting. Well, thank you all very much. Thank you to these producers, the ones that did help us out. We certainly appreciate your support. And if you'd like to learn more about how you can support the best podcast in the universe known as the NO Agenda Show, go here. It's your birthday, birthday! Oh, Noah, yeah! Well, we're gonna make it real short and easy for you today. Only two. We got Jesse Maxwell saying happy birthday to Noah Maxwell, who celebrated yesterday, and Catherine to her boyfriend Ivan Cazares. She's a bit ahead, but she is well on time for his birthday on December 20th, and we say happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. It's your birthday, yeah! Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do

2:39:22 Yeah, we had a big title change for Sir D.H. Slammer, now officially Viscount of the Central California Coast Ventura to Santa Cruz and the Santina Valley and we thank him very much for his continued support of the No Agenda Show. It's really been a five-time night now as we get you to Viscount. Thank you very, very much Sir D.H. Slammer, Viscount now. We have a couple of black knights, some knights, looks like they're all gentlemen today so we get a manly blade. Here you go. Okay, I'll have to do. Hank! Nathan Garza, Chad Nolacek, Mike Rineker and Kyle Allen all

2:40:10 And all of you up here on the stage, you've all become Knights of the Noah-Jenner Round Table, and I'm very proud to pronounce the K-V as Black Knight Sir Hank, Sir Nathan, Black Knight of the Metaverse, Sir Bohemian Butcher, Knight of the Late Model Slide Jobs, Sir Eddie Metal, and Sir Willis of the Rock. For you we've got Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay. We've got Kim Chan Coffee, Smokes and Beers, we got vodka and cookies, we got warm beer and cold women, Ginger ale and gerbils, bong hits and bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts, and of course we always have the mutton and the mead. And while you're chomping on that, go to noagendanation.com slash rings. It will take a little bit, you know, we had to order a whole bunch of rings for the 15th anniversary, so supply chains are a little messed up these days, so bear with us on that. But it will come, your signet ring, with your very, very beautiful wax to seal your important correspondence with, and of course, the certificate of authenticity. Welcome to the round table, citizens. You are now knights of the NOAGENDA round table.

2:41:11 No one should know me now We got a couple of produced meetup reports. The first one from our buddy Tom Starkweather. Hi, we're at the Cheesy Spotsy Holiday Meetup and it's at Gormelts and this is unhappy New York now happy in Virginia. Yes, we're crushing the establishment here. This is Tom Starkweather. This is Brian from King George having a great time at Gormelts. Hey, it's Sir Harry Pilgrim, Baron of Mastoponics. Hi, this is Sarah, the certified shape-shifting Jew. Rob Ross in the morning. Sir Roger of the Roundies, amazed at this turnout. Dame DC girl in the morning. Sir Dan Blake, protector of UCIs. This is Chris Fern King George in the morning.

CHAPTER 38 / 40 Discussion

Meetup Reports, Giza Egypt, Upcoming Events

Reports from recent No Agenda meetups include a large gathering in Virginia that successfully competed with a Tim Pool event. A unique meetup report was submitted from Giza, Egypt, featuring various podcasters near the pyramids. Upcoming meetups are announced for Alaska, Idaho, and North Carolina.

meetups· giza· egypt· tim pool· no agenda meetups

2:40:10 And all of you up here on the stage, you've all become Knights of the Noah-Jenner Round Table, and I'm very proud to pronounce the K-V as Black Knight Sir Hank, Sir Nathan, Black Knight of the Metaverse, Sir Bohemian Butcher, Knight of the Late Model Slide Jobs, Sir Eddie Metal, and Sir Willis of the Rock. For you we've got Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay. We've got Kim Chan Coffee, Smokes and Beers, we got vodka and cookies, we got warm beer and cold women, Ginger ale and gerbils, bong hits and bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts, and of course we always have the mutton and the mead. And while you're chomping on that, go to noagendanation.com slash rings. It will take a little bit, you know, we had to order a whole bunch of rings for the 15th anniversary, so supply chains are a little messed up these days, so bear with us on that. But it will come, your signet ring, with your very, very beautiful wax to seal your important correspondence with, and of course, the certificate of authenticity. Welcome to the round table, citizens. You are now knights of the NOAGENDA round table.

2:41:11 No one should know me now We got a couple of produced meetup reports. The first one from our buddy Tom Starkweather. Hi, we're at the Cheesy Spotsy Holiday Meetup and it's at Gormelts and this is unhappy New York now happy in Virginia. Yes, we're crushing the establishment here. This is Tom Starkweather. This is Brian from King George having a great time at Gormelts. Hey, it's Sir Harry Pilgrim, Baron of Mastoponics. Hi, this is Sarah, the certified shape-shifting Jew. Rob Ross in the morning. Sir Roger of the Roundies, amazed at this turnout. Dame DC girl in the morning. Sir Dan Blake, protector of UCIs. This is Chris Fern King George in the morning.

2:41:57 So what was interesting is that Tom sent me a note before this meetup was going to take place and he was really upset. He's like, man, no one's going to come to the meetup. No one's going to come. I said, why not? Because Tim Pool is going to do a thing in Virginia. I was like, dude, are you kidding me now? You're telling me that no agenda Meetup people are going to forego the meetup for a Tim Pool event? Yeah, man, everyone's talking. This was when Tim Pool did the Kanye thing and everyone's talking about Tim Pool. Oh, Tim Pool, Tim Pool! Oh, no one will come to the meetup! Well, there you go. It was a big meetup. It was a big meetup and very successful. Why would anybody go to Tim Pool? I mean, we don't have that much of a crossover audience. Oh, you have no idea. The minute...

2:42:53 Because we weren't doing live shows, because we were, you know, people were bored I guess. So anything that was live, that was exciting, which is really two things, Kanye and Tim Pool, Kanye and Alex Jones. That's all that... You are on No Agenda Social, right? You do see what people post. I do. You do. All right. Now this meetup, I'm not sure if it was in Egypt or if it was just somewhere at Mike Lindell's place, but this is the Giza meetup. All right in the morning John and Adam we are the old Giza Meetup group here in Egypt next to the pyramids love the show in the morning. Oh, yeah, by the way, this is Kyle from brothers of the search This has been from uncharted X Thank you for your courage in the morning gentlemen from the southern sage in the morning Adam and John's Ross from brother to the serpent at Giza next to the pyramids with a bunch of friends Thank you for your courage Durham from America. This is sir

2:43:49 Gray from Grimerica at COP 27, I mean at the cat's paws of the Sphinx, actually that power plant at Giza. Hey, I wonder Chauncey and Adam, how all these fine people and all these great podcasters found out about the best podcast in the universe, huh? Hello from one of the few people who can actually speak the English language. We've had a great time here in Giza. If you can get your asses out here, do so. What's your name? That's Chris, by the way. Thank you for your courage. It's Brian Corr here at Giza. Thank you for your courage, Adam and John. Chris from Montana Circus Media. In the morning.

2:44:25 Thank you for your courage, Dame Kylie of the Double D Cups. Love you Uncle John, love you Uncle Adam. Thank you for your courage, this is Sir Andy of Turgle Beach. Thank you for your courage, this is Beth from South Carolina. Hit em in the mouth! Alright, so where was this? I don't think it was in Egypt somehow. I don't think so either. It had to be a meeting of the MI6. I get the feeling it was just the old Giza, like geezers Giza. I don't know. I don't know. Hey, I'm happy we get a report. If you're in Albuquerque, New Mexico, you better be at the sawmill meetup and soiree. It's been going on for about an hour or two, or you probably are back from the Amsterdam Zapekist hooey-hooey meetup in Amstelveen, the Netherlands.

2:45:15 If not, Columbus, Ohio has the Central Ohio Meetup which is underway now. It's been going on for about an hour and a half. There is the, let me see, we move on to Sunday, the 14th, Lunch with the Knight, if you dare, Alaska, at noon Alaska time, Bear Paw Bar and Grill in Anchorage. On Thursday, next show day, the NISB 3rd Thursday, no agenda day meetup, 5 o'clock in Selkirk Abbey, that's Post Falls, Idaho. The Northway Christmas Courage warm-up will take place on Thursday, next show day, 6 o'clock in Compass, Raleigh, North Carolina, at Compass in Raleigh, North Carolina. And finally, the Charlotte Thirsty 3rd Thursday monthly meetup, 7 o'clock, Ed's Tavern in Charlotte.

2:45:56 Charlotte, North Carolina. Thank you all for organizing these. Thank you for reporting back. Thank you for being part of something that is really wonderful. Everybody should go to at least one meetup. I guarantee you'll go to another one after that. And thank you all for supporting the meetups by going and creating them. NoagendaMeetups.com. If you can't find one near you, start one yourself. ♪ Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days ♪ Like a party! Okay, hold on a second here. I think by some odd

CHAPTER 39 / 40 Discussion

EctoLife Viral Video, German Coup Plot, Show Sign-off

The hosts debunk the viral "EctoLife" artificial womb video, identifying it as a conceptual project by filmmaker Hashem Al-Ghaili rather than a real company. They also briefly mention the arrest of a "self-styled prince" in Germany for an alleged far-right coup plot. The episode ends with a series of listener-produced music mixes and the standard sign-off from Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak.

ectolife· artificial wombs· germany· coup plot· adam curry

2:46:48 happenstance I have exactly zero ISOs. Oh no! That means you win by default. Well let's see what you want to pick, I got two. Okay I'm glad you have something. All right what you got? And they're both they're both good ISOs. They're not great but they're both good so let's start with happy holidays. Happy holidays to you. Wow very kind of mainstream of you. Very and then the other one is not going. And we are not going anywhere. No, I'll take the happy holidays over that one. Okay, you like that one? I think it's okay. Yeah, I'd like to not going anywhere one but happy holidays is good. Well, I like them both. Okay Let me see. I think I had one last thing to leave. Did I have one last thing? Yes, I have one last thing. I'd like to I'd like to play just because so many people you know from time to time people will send a video

2:47:49 And it's already been debunked or whatever, but this is a new one and it just was flowing in all morning. This is the Ecto Life video. Now this is, if you haven't seen it, you will because people will send it to you. It's really slick. It's highly produced. And in essence, I'm just going to play a little bit of this, about five minutes. Imagine the Matrix was all of the pods where the people were in the pods. So now imagine a room like that and in the pods are little babies. EctoLife allows infertile couple to conceive a baby and become the true biological parents of their own offspring. It's a perfect solution for women who had their uterus surgically removed due to cancer or other complications.

2:48:35 With Ectolife, premature births and c-sections will be a thing of the past. Ectolife is designed to help countries that are suffering from severe population decline, including Japan, Bulgaria, South Korea, and many others. The facility features 75 highly equipped labs. Each state-of-the-art lab can accommodate up to 400 growth pods or artificial wounds. Every pod is designed to replicate the exact conditions that exist inside the mother's uterus. A single building can incubate up to 30,000 lab-grown babies per year. Ectolife allows your baby to develop in an infection-free environment. The pods are made of materials that prevent germs from sticking to their surfaces.

2:49:27 So this thing goes on and it's really good. I mean it looks just like it's out of a science fiction movie Well, it looks like it should be a an element in a science fiction movie Like Robocop has a lot of fake ads. There's a lot of science fiction that does that they like to do that because it brings it It's funny. It's humorous And yeah, so it sounds like a humorous advertisement. Well, no, it's not at all. People are taking this very seriously. There's a whole PDF that's floating around about Ectolife. Now, of course, Ectolife, I can't find any company called Ectolife, so I'm a little irked by everyone sending me this video. This video has been produced by Hashem Al-Gha'ili, who is a producer, filmmaker and science communicator based in Berlin.

2:50:17 And he makes these videos for money, for other companies. He does speaking engagements, content creation, growth optimization and digital marketing. So all of you who are sending this to me like, Klaus Schwab is gonna grow babies! Stop sending it to me! Well, at least my fans have yet to send me what copy of this. Everybody, johnatdvorak.org. Rock and roll. You can do what you want. I'll check it out over at the... I'm sure it's on Noah Jenda Social. Do you have anything to play or do you want to play us out? Well, let's just keep us up with the prince.

2:51:01 The German Prince update, short clip. German Prince update? In Germany, police say they are planning further arrests linked to an alleged far-right coup plot. A wave of raids on Wednesday detained 25 suspects and seized weapons at some 50 locations. Prosecutors say the group wanted to install a self-styled prince as a new national leader. Wow! Do we have video of any of these except for the self-styled prince? Not that I can tell but you know I got some there is a rumor going around that this guy is part of a seriously concerned that the United States is actually running Germany Which seems to be some sort of a QAnon. Yes, of course makes nothing but sense It's a global organization John and you know what podcasters are a part of it too, man. Be careful Yeah podcasters everyone must have their own podcast. I

2:51:56 In the future everyone will have a podcast. Two podcasts in every family. We got a podcast coming up next live on noagendastream.com. If you're trollroom.io just hang out there. It's Abs in a Six Pack live with Sir Seat Sitter and Sir Was. Sir Was. Sir Wes. Sir Wes. Sir Wes. Sir Wes. We have some end of show mixes coming up for you. Professor JJ. He finally made one in, Professor JJ. We got, uh, Derek Birch. I can't remember if he has a moniker. And Maddie J, all to take you up to the end of this episode of the No Agenda Show.

2:52:40 Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, FEMA Region number 6, in the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where I see the winds increasing and we may get a little more rain, which we actually need, yes. I'm John C. DuVora. More gully washers on the way. Remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA. Thank you for supporting us, keeping it going until Thursday. Adios, mofos and such! And a hooey-hooey! Saw baby born so precious and small He never saw faces but stared at the wall

CHAPTER 40 / 40 Discussion

COVID-Vax Hero Song, Pandemic Narrative Recap

A satirical song titled "COVID-Vax Hero" plays, mocking the pandemic response, masking, and social distancing. The final segments feature a montage of news clips regarding the "tridemic," the push for booster shots, and the ongoing societal obligation to follow COVID-19 protocols. The hosts sign off with a reminder to support the show via the value-for-value model.

covid-vax hero· song· pandemic· booster shots· cdc

2:53:34 Had no emotions, felt nothing at all. COVID mask hero is something to see. COVID mask heroes but no parenting. They master at home, no hugging at school. Keeping your distance, so lonely and cruel.

2:54:16 But she never went crazy, just followed the rule. Covid-Vax Hero is something to be. Covid-Vax Hero is something to be. Would they torture and scare you for twenty more years? Retard your affection's the highest idea Now social dysfunction is all that we hear A COVID test hero still scanning the flea A COVID test hero sits in the machine

2:55:17 Lighten the curve just 15 more days Think you're so clever while stuck in a maze Boosted our peasants in heart attack phase COVID-Vax hero is something to be A COVID vaccine is something to be

2:56:01 What do we have in store? Yeah, it was just on them for wars. Me and more loving Nazis. Yo, why you say that for if I told you once and I told you twice, COVID boxed you into a jab treating citizens deaths like mice like the truth when the nourish of your soul, it may hurt the heart sometimes, but it never gets old. I'd rather hurt my heart like that than what the smart guard over a clock shot or the woke poke. What about the More than the jab, dab, these are an expression of the gift, the gap Sadness, oh sad, pain is not going away Turn it back to the good book, cause we know that Jesus saves Government rather give you a pill to kill Depression is when you mill around, taking a round pill just to kill The thought of working at the mill, listen to me, what am I trying to chill? Still, Dave J.C., the king of credit with no edit, no agenda, yo

2:56:54 You or someone you know probably has called in sick recently now that it's cold flu and COVID season. In fact, officials are tracking numbers to learn if the recent Thanksgiving holiday will spark an increase in COVID numbers. In the United States, COVID-19 still accounts for about 2,000 deaths per week in our country. Two weeks or so after a big holiday, we will see the numbers rising. So what are the COVID rules these days? Getting the vaccine now will provide you with protection during those holiday festivities. this is the right time and there are a lot of great areas. There's no longer a universal mask requirement, but public health officials are on a mission. Get your booster shot. The CDC recommends you stay at home and isolate. According to the CDC, the number of influenza hospitalizations is at its highest level in a decade. I would imagine towards the end of December, mid January, we'll see those numbers spike. It's still very intense.

2:57:47 going around. And so I encourage everyone to get not only tested but also get their vaccine. We still have a societal obligation. COVID has not gone away. That doesn't mean that the pandemic is letting us forget it. It's too early to tell. Numbers indicate it's very much still here. Right now we're about 50% vaccinated. The new vivalent, that's not where we want to be, but that's we've made so much progress over the last couple of years. We still have more work to do. Our work is not done and we'll do whatever it takes, whatever it takes. The best podcast in the universe! MoFoDvorak.org slash N-A Happy holidays to you.