Bald Nancy

00:00 Jeffrey Toobin's gonna be on a Zoom call. You might get lucky. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Sunday, August 8th, 2021. This is your award-winning Kidmaw Nation Media Assassination Episode 1371. This is no agenda. Killing grannies, smacking fannies, and broadcasting live from the heart of Texas Hill Country. We're in FEMA Region Number 6 in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're celebrating the 88s, I'm John C. Dvorak. Yeah, yeah baby, there you go. Well happy 33rd anniversary.

00:51 You're welcome. We had a big meetup in Healdsburg. They gave us a big 33rd birthday cake. 33rd birthday. 33rd anniversary cake. Oh, so you were up there at the meetup. That's nice. Yeah. Oh, fantastic. I'd say about $8,000 worth of wine on the table. Oh man, high roller. That's a podcaster life for you right there. Beautiful. And did Mimi make it out? Did she make it out to the meetup? Yes, she did, sir. Of course. That's so cool, man. 33 years together, ladies and gentlemen, and as you know, they never had a fight! Ever. Exactly. Yes. Well, good. This has become an annual occurrence here on the NOVAgender show. We celebrate the 8888.

01:42 We have four celebrations, two birthdays and two anniversaries. I mean, I think... The funny thing about your anniversary, it's always different. That's what I was just about to say. We should be celebrating a whole bunch of anniversaries throughout the years. I know, you can never pin it down. When is his anniversary? Yes, 5-19. That is more magic numbers. Oh good, I'm very happy. Very happy she made it out, very happy he went to the meetup. I got some free gifts including one that I'll discuss in some later show once I figure out how to use it completely. You want to lift a little bit of the veil there and let us know what this is? Oh, interesting. No, because too many good stories behind it.

02:33 Well, I think that we have been around long enough to identify trends and I'm going to come back to one of your theories. We are now in mass hysteria mode. We are. I think we're in mass hysteria. We've been in mass hysteria mode for a while. Well, but I've been doing a lot of investigation and googling basically, researching mass hysteria, how mind control works when it's government coercion. You know, there's...and actually it was spurred on by an email from one of our producers who said, you know, if you want to know how the government, you know, gets mandates in with coercion, now, first of all,

03:17 Fear is the perfect weapon, right? So we have the fear, the trend that we've seen is, fear is the perfect weapon. We saw the ramp up in 2019, 2020, and then the lockdowns and everything kind of subsided. Then after the summer, it started to go up a little bit and then started to get more worried. And then of course, we had the winter, the hospitals, they were putting people in freezer trucks and everything was overflowing and then the other freezer trucks came down a little bit and you know so now we've had the summer the you know oh everything's looking good we got a new president and that we're vaccinating July 4th and now it turns out that uh-oh

03:56 You know, we've got some massive fear going on, things are happening, you know, people are dying. This is more, you know, it's like chickenpox. So this is a wave that continuously goes up, a wave pattern that is how, you know, how governments and media together create complete, complete mass hysteria. And I have a couple of really scary examples. Let me see. Yeah, before you wrap this by the way I do have something to back you up on a lot of this only It's a little more I have probably more sinister clips, and I'm sure you're gonna come up with well You want to you want to put something in here now? It's kind of a backgrounder so I can go deeper on that well. We can talk about the nudge Okay, the nudge operation out of the UK ah yes, yes, well. This is part of the marketing and

04:53 Well, if you want to call it marketing. Yeah, I do. Yes, because, well, I'm not sure what your clip is. Do you have a clip of the nudge? There's a series of four clips by Laura Dodsworth who came out with a book unfortunately titled State of Fear. Oh boy, it's a good thing our boy is dead so we can't go suing him. No, you can't go sue him. You can't go sue him for titles. I can write The Sun Also Rises. This funny thing about copyright law, titles are not copyrightable. Yeah, isn't that interesting. Little known fact. Isn't that interesting. But she did state a fairness of book about this that you're talking about.

05:35 Okay, now the reason why I say marketing is, and I don't know if this is part of it, but 10 Downing Street just announced they're going to enlist TikTok stars to push teens to get vaccinated. Yeah, we know this is what Team Halo was trained to do, but now they're just saying they're doing it. But they don't have, there's no qualms. None at all. You don't have to have qualms. It's almost like they always talk about the great football team is that we're going to show you what we're going to do, then we're going to do it. And you can't stop us. Maybe these would be good in advance. Yeah, this sounds good. Let's go Laura Dodsworth, State of Fear, nudge one. Oh, hold on. Nudge one.

06:19 I just wrote a feature for The Telegraph about the nudges we'll see during the rest of the epidemic and I checked in with one of my anonymous sources who advises in government. Oh, stop the clip for a second. You can start it over. This woman has got such a, she's got the modern British accent. Yes. You really have to bear down to understand a modern Brit when they're going at full tilt. It's like first learning Spanish and then running into a good Mexican radio station can't understand a word of it. Which always sounds a little bit like... Alright.

07:05 Sorry. I just wrote a feature for The Telegraph about the nudges we'll see during the rest of the epidemic and I checked in with one of my anonymous sources who advises in government who told me that there is skipping in Whitehall and they're skipping through the corridors, they've had a very good epidemic and one of the big learnings is that the British people have been sheepish and there's lots more nudge coming. It's worked, why would they not do it again? If you've read the book, guys, if you've read the book, you might remember how the chapter on Spy B starts. And something that just chilled my blood was when I spoke to one of the psychologists who sits on that advisory panel to ask if they'd been tasked with thinking about how to get the British population back to normal. And he seemed shocked that I asked. And if I could paraphrase, it's something like, normal? What normal?

07:56 you know, we're now facing climate change and we've made great gains on carbon emissions and we can't go back to normal. And I think you can already see a segue into using some of the same tools to perhaps encourage behavior change that will be needed to meet net zero targets. I've seen a very scary ad produced by Net Zero Scotland already. Oh yeah, well this is interesting, I like this. So they, there is actually an office of manipulation in Great Britain that puts these programs together. Is it called the Office of Manipulation or they just call it BBC? That's what I'm calling it. It's a behavioral science. It's like Office of Behavioral Sciences or something like that. She mentions the name, I think, maybe in clip two. Well, there is something Francis and I talked about. We did an episode where him and I were talking about this and the fact that this is now part of the toolbox.

08:53 that can be produced for other perceived threats is something that people should be very worried about I think. In terms of the methodology, tell everybody you use, you reference Nudge, which most of us understand, but some people may be less familiar with. What is Nudge theory and how has it been used in particular for this pandemic? But also previously, because I think it was Cameron who really first started talking about it. Maybe it was even used before. Tell everybody a little bit about that. Yeah, sure. So the Nudge unit is the colloquial term for the behavioral insights team, which was set up under the David Cameron government.

09:30 and that's now legally and operationally separate to the government, it's a limited company. Britain's terribly good at behavioral psychology, we actually, or behavioral science, we export it all around the world. They have offices in Canada, Australia, New Zealand and others. So a nudge is implicit, which means you won't really be aware of it. It affects your choices without being a mandate. A nudge is just one tool in the behavioral science toolbox. So there's the Behavioural Insights team and they've been doing some things that look kind of innocuous in terms of making people pay their tax returns on time or... Plastic bags. I don't know if they work on that but that might be the kind of thing. 5p for plastic bags. Yeah, exactly. It's choice architecture. It's giving you a choice and trying to nudge you into the right one, the one that makes you a model citizen. The one that somewhere some clever people in a clever room have decided that you not so clever people should be doing.

10:27 Yeah? The Behavioral Sciences Team and Choice Architecture. Now, if this doesn't come straight out of 1984, I don't know what does. Well, we have the same everywhere, I'm sure, but I don't think we actually have a name for it. It's just a lot of those offices at the State Department, the Pentagon, McLean, Virginia. I think there's something like 5,000 or more public relations people. I think this is all part of the public relations team. And I think that they do this kind of thing there. Let's go to clip 3, there's only a couple more and then we're done. There isn't just the Behavioural Insights team, there's SPI-B which we've already referred to. Now that's a voluntary group of advisors and they don't just work on the COVID epidemic, they also advise the government on other risks, on other things, on the National Risk Register.

11:17 But what I found fascinating but a bit disturbing in the course of researching the book was how many brick walls I hit when I was trying to find out more about behavioural science and government. But what became clear to me is how much the government does rely on behavioural science. There are behavioural scientists in, I think, probably every government department. also within the NHS, also within Public Health England. There are also units which are set up to manage the flow of information, manage counter disinformation. You might call some of it propaganda, you might call some of it behavioural psychology. What they do is a little bit opaque. There's the Counter Disinformation Unit and there's the Research Information Communication Unit, there's GCHQ, there's the 77th Brigade which is part of the Army.

12:03 You know where the America's best behavioral scientists work? Where? Facebook, Twitter, Google. Yeah, that's where we put them. For sure. Now, I want to mention something here. They mentioned that a lot of the behavioral scientist stuff came from, started with Cameron, but if you recall, probably a decade ago on this show, we played a clip from a Tony Blair ex- I think one of the executives within the Tony Blair administration, who discussed on one of the shows about how the entire question, Prime Minister question hour that they have. Oh, it's all scripted. It's all scripted from the get-go. Everything that both sides say is scripted. Yeah, and knows ahead of time.

13:00 Yeah, and so it's just like this is just theater to an extreme and then there then was manipulation added. It's just really sickening, but let's play the last sickening part four. And haven't you been surprised at how easily manipulated it seems a British public have been? I certainly have. I found it shocking. I don't know. I've gone through all kinds of different emotions about it. The thing is epidemics are really frightening. I might not have thought lockdown was a good idea but I was also frightened about the epidemic at the beginning. I remember stocking up on tinned food in case I got in and my kids would have to cook on their own, you know. It's normal, it's hard-baked into us to be frightened. I think fear was an open door and that's the point. It was really easy for the government to leverage it because fear was already there.

13:53 Behavioural science works. I mean, it's advertising, it's the bakery and the supermarket, it's all around us all the time. I don't know if the British people have been especially sheepish. That's what the advisors view was. I quoted them in this telegraph feature. I don't know because I haven't done enough comparison of attitudes in different countries to be sure. It might just be that it was wielded a lot more heavily on us. Hmm, yeah, I don't think so. I think it's wielded heavily everywhere. I agree. Huh, well that's really interesting, the fact that she has a book coming out. Who's, who is, what imprint is this? Is she doing this on Amazon Do-It-Yourself Press? Kindle book. Who the hell is gonna release that?

14:46 Oh, I think that's a publisher's would do that book. Again, it's like one of the situations where it's like, hey, we're doing this, you can talk about it because it's not gonna stop us and it's not gonna have any effect. It's like our show, how many, you know, we do have a lot of people that like the show and they, maybe it helps them get through the day, but is it have any profound effect on the overall thing they're trying to pull? No, none whatsoever. The book won't either. So neither were those clips. So in this mass hysteria, which is created by nudging, that's one of the many ways and yeah, behavioral scientists. This is why it's so fun to see Mark Zuckerberg with a, you know, with important parts redacted email that we could read about, oh, don't worry, we'll do this, black stripes, we'll get this black bars. Yeah, the behavioral scientists and it's all to get you to take the vaccine. And there's, but it's, they're going so far now.

15:45 Arkansas Health, the state health department, branded Healthy Arkansas, has this commercial out and I just want you to listen to it. I'll describe it for you. It's an African-American guy. He's outside sitting on the hood of his car, American-made car, I think. Well, that was the impression I got. And he's just talking and he's telling you about why he needs to get the vaccine because of his vocation. Now, you tell me after this 30 seconds, what job does this guy do? During the pandemic, my lifestyle drastically changed. My income came to a screeching halt. You have to understand I'm a hustler. I'm a legit entrepreneur. I sell things. I come in contact with people all the time. I have to stay safe.

16:29 didn't have a choice but to trust the vaccine. If you live the type of lifestyle that I live, you out here in these streets and you hustling, an entrepreneur like me, why not do it safely? So I want everybody to take this seriously. Take a shot at staying healthy, healthy. Get the vaccine. All right. I'd say from his pattern, I don't want to sound like a racist here. but from his pattern, remember what he said, he's either a pimp or a drug dealer. Exactly. And you're not a racist. That's meant to be insulting to the community or supposed to trigger them to go and pay attention. I think the black community, which is still way behind and some of the discussion about their small businesses, which are going to be pretty much shut down by Bill de Blasio because you can't go anywhere and just have a vaccine card.

17:16 and it turns out to be a kind of a racist thing that they're gonna get in trouble for. I think that if you're a behavioral scientist, the black community is the pinnacle, is the Mount Everest that you wanna conquer. You wanna get the whole group, all of them just take the shot because they're so skeptical. This must be just a fun time to try to persuade the black community, and I keep using the word community, to persuade the blacks to get this shot even though they don't want to. And there's good reason by the way. Well, there's one thing the president has done.

17:56 Since you just used the word yourself multiple times, I'm a... As you know, I'm not a proponent of saying the black and brown community because it's horse crap. The same for the LGBTQ community. It's not a community. It's not a community, but listen to our president. This is a very different variant than what we've dealt with previously. It's moving like wildfire through the unvaccinated community. That's heartbreaking. particularly because it's preventable. The unvaccinated community. Yeah, that's funny. Now you can just lump everybody in together because now we're just all unvaccinated. Black, white, brown, you know, you're just against it. This is interesting. 4chan has... By the way, just to stay on that for one second, I wonder if the behavioral scientists would think it was a good idea

18:47 to use the word community in regards to the unvaccinated because it makes them sound like a, I mean, if you're part of a community that supposedly that should make you feel like secure in some way and maybe it's the wrong term to use, maybe you shouldn't be using that term. Well, that's a good question. I don't know. We need a behavioral scientist to pipe in. Hopefully. I'm sure we have them. We have plenty. But on 4chan, they're running an interesting operation, hashtag askmewhy, and it's showing black Americans

19:25 you know, like sitting under a bridge, in a gutter, and the headline is, I can't go to the grocery store, I can't eat today. And underneath it says, you know, vaccine passports or vaccine identification is racist. And they put logos on it from Black Lives Matter, Anti-Defamation League, Human Rights Now. And it's very effective. People have been sending it to me like, wow, look at this. And I said, dude, this is an operation from 4chan. It's really good. Because that's exactly the truth. It's completely ridiculous if you have the audacity to say, oh, we have to go after the black and brown community, but they don't ever recognize that they're the most vaccine hesitant. And I think the mainstream media is, they have their issues now too. They're sick and tired of promoting this, and they want more money.

20:17 They've been on this story for almost two years now, well over a year and a half. You don't see many ads, well I don't think there's any ads anymore, there's some advertorial content, but I saw this segment where they brought in CNN's doctor, she's a nice lady, I forget what her name is, and she's a salesperson by her nature. She goes on there to sell pharmaceutical products with their little segments. But now she got roped in to do a two-minute pitch, two-minute pitch to get Big Pharma to advertise more on CNN.

21:01 Tell me I'm wrong. As of this morning, more than 30% of Americans who are eligible for the vaccine have not gotten the shot. But new CNN reporting shows there's been a sharp decline in vaccination ads on television. CNN senior medical correspondent Elizabeth Cohen. That right there said, hey, there's a sharp decline in ads. We just heard from the sales guys, there's a sharp decline in ads for vaccinations. Hello? With us now on this story, why are we seeing this decline, Elizabeth? Brianna, it's so interesting. With nearly a third of Americans opting not to get vaccinated, you would hope that the ads would increase educating people. Wow, what a shameless, shameless. They're supposed to be doing this one-on-one. They're not supposed to be trying to humiliate and embarrass the industry. Oh my God, it goes so far, this one. They even do test ads at the end.

21:53 If I were a guy, I'd be irked about this. Oh, wait until you hear the whole thing. It's so interesting with nearly a third of Americans opting not to get vaccinated, you would hope that the ads would increase educating people, letting people know the correct information rather than all the misinformation that's circulating on social media. But let's take a look at a graph. This is from the folks at iSpot. They're a company that tracks advertising. And what they found is that the number of COVID-19 vaccine ads viewed on TV peaked in May and then went down steadily. I mean, that decline is really quite dramatic. Now, one of the reasons is that TV viewing naturally always goes down in the summer. People are watching TV less. But

22:35 But still, that is a decline right at the time that you don't want a decline, because there are so many people who need to hear this message. Let's take a look at the people who need to hear this message. The people who need to hear this message. Hello, advertisers. The people who need to hear this message. They need to hear this message. Are you listening? ...want a decline, because there are so many people who need to hear this message. Let's take a look at the people who need to hear this message most. The Kaiser Family Foundation in a recent poll said... that people who say they definitely won't get the vaccine. 15% of Democrats say they definitely won't get it. 58% of Republicans say they definitely won't get it. So there needs to be ads, obviously, that really are geared towards Republicans, since 58% of them say they definitely won't get a vaccine. Brianna? Okay, but wait, but wait, but wait, there's more. I mean, you've just given us the facts. What do we do? What do we do? We got more Republicans

23:28 than Democrats. This is the only thing that counts with vaccinations. Not if you want or not, not if you're white, black, brown, red, yellow. No, only, only, only if you're a Republican. So then looking at Republicans, does the ad matter? Are there some ads that appear to be working better with folks who are more reticent to get the vaccine? The ads matter very much. So Ice Walk put together panels of people of various political stripes and colors. And what they found was that there was, these ads resonated differently with different groups. So let's take a look at an ad that didn't resonate so well with Republicans. John, they're doing test results from ads on the air!

24:05 Oh, this didn't work well. Listen guys, you got to do a better job, produce better commercials. This was an ad where presidents came on, US presidents came on and said, I got vaccinated, I got vaccinated, I got vaccinated. And you would think here's Obama. They also had Bush. They had all of the living former presidents. You would think one of those presidents might resonate with Republicans or with these folks, but apparently not. they were not so thrilled with this ad. Now let's take a look at an ad that did resonate better with Republicans. And that's an ad that shows FedEx folks going forward, shows people going forward, and then shows people going backwards. So it shows people going forwards and backwards. The message is that if you get vaccinated, our lives can move forward. The economy can move forward. That one did better with the Republicans.

24:54 I mean, am I crazy or are these people just pitching blatantly? Blatantly! Well, you don't do... First of all, let's accept the fact that you don't do this unless you're really hard up. Yeah! This is way... This is beyond the fourth wall or whatever you want to call it. This is... This is beyond the fourth wall. It's through the basement. It's pathetic that they have to do... That's how hard... CNN is failing. Yes, and I'm surprised how they keep this Zucker Zucker guy in is beyond me. I don't know that's because it's mine because they just had the big mergers come in You know, they want to keep everything stable. They want to move people in and up There's a lot of politicking going on internally. I think But everything you say is true. And yeah, it was a good cat. That's a great catch by the way the fat find this this ridiculous and

25:50 And they also, you know, if you're really doing this as a journalistic piece, which it's not, it's obviously just what you said, wouldn't you say something like, well, it's interesting the Republicans aren't taking the shot, but wasn't it interesting that the Democrats all said, all the big shot Democrats, Biden and the rest of them said they wouldn't take the shot themselves during the Republican administration? Maybe it's just the Republicans thinking the same way. Well, I think CNN has a strategy for their... for their sales call on the pharmaceutical industry, it's very clear the message is you need to advertise on our channel and you need to advertise to Republicans. That's what they're saying. And to accentuate, now this is where the evilness comes in, to accentuate what they're talking about. That whole channel, and I just picked up just one example, is filled with hate speech.

26:51 hate towards Republicans in regard to vaccination status. Everything. But that's the point. If you're talking about creating mass hysteria or maybe we should call it menticide, because that's what I think is going on here. You need to show that there's an enemy, that there's really, really bad people and the mechanism for Trump is still there. It hasn't gone magically. So you can say Trump is the reason and people will flip out, but that's what they will call baseless or without evidence. In fact, quite the contrary. So then now it's just Republicans and it triggers the same thing. Here's Jim Acosta

25:50 And they also, you know, if you're really doing this as a journalistic piece, which it's not, it's obviously just what you said, wouldn't you say something like, well, it's interesting the Republicans aren't taking the shot, but wasn't it interesting that the Democrats all said, all the big shot Democrats, Biden and the rest of them said they wouldn't take the shot themselves during the Republican administration? Maybe it's just the Republicans thinking the same way. Well, I think CNN has a strategy for their... for their sales call on the pharmaceutical industry, it's very clear the message is you need to advertise on our channel and you need to advertise to Republicans. That's what they're saying. And to accentuate, now this is where the evilness comes in, to accentuate what they're talking about. That whole channel, and I just picked up just one example, is filled with hate speech.

26:51 hate towards Republicans in regard to vaccination status. Everything. But that's the point. If you're talking about creating mass hysteria or maybe we should call it menticide, because that's what I think is going on here. You need to show that there's an enemy, that there's really, really bad people and the mechanism for Trump is still there. It hasn't gone magically. So you can say Trump is the reason and people will flip out, but that's what they will call baseless or without evidence. In fact, quite the contrary. So then now it's just Republicans and it triggers the same thing. Here's Jim Acosta

27:38 Now he's just reading a script, but I'm sure he wrote it. Listen to how he politicizes this shit. As the Delta variant is raging across the US, the nation remains divided between states fighting the virus and states fighting the science. States led by politicians who know better. Case in point, Florida. Florida's Republican Governor Ron DeSantis is barring school districts in the state from enacting mask mandates. Never mind that conservatives tend to support local control over their schools. That's only part of the problem. The problem is that Florida has been one of the leaders in the U.S. in COVID cases, just as kids too young to be vaccinated are heading back to the classroom.

28:17 The Delta variant is slamming states where vaccination rates are lagging behind much of the country. The map is very clear there. One of those Delta hotspots is Missouri, where Senator Josh Hawley has been going after the Biden administration for requiring vaccinations for federal employees. He seemed okay with fear and intimidation on January 6th. But I don't. Holly understands the importance of the vaccine. He's already gotten his. The big reason for vaccines for federal employees, of course, is that vaccination rates are too low to end the pandemic in this country. We are now dealing with the consequences of our actions.

28:57 The virus mutated into the Delta variant, which is now unleashing misery all over the U.S. Hospitals are filling up, the number of dead rising again. So yes, governments, corporations, they're requiring vaccinations. And yes, some local leaders are calling on masks to return so kids can safely go back to school. so we can prevent more lockdowns. As this pandemic grinds on, our top scientists warn the virus could mutate into other variants. Dr. Anthony Fauci says the next variant could be more contagious and more lethal. So, you know, it just continues. This is not going to convince anyone to now accept this vaccination, but it builds on the fear. NBC is subtle, and I had to listen to this clip three times before I figured out how subtle it really is. This is Lester Holt. 56% of grown-ups have gotten that one shot. Grown-ups. Exactly. Exactly.

29:55 So now if you really, if you really, really want to talk Republican and freedom loving Americans and if you want to give a real good example of the kinds of people who are super spreading, there is nothing quite like the Sturgis Biker Rally, my friends. Let's go back to last year, 2020. This is the report from CBS. There's a $12 billion price tag that has been pegged to the impact of and fallout from that Sturgis motorcycle rally that you hosted in your state in August. It is blamed for seeding the entire Midwest outbreak that hit in that late summer through the fall. Do you take personal responsibility for that?

30:41 Well, that is completely false information. That is not true. This is a San Diego State University study. San Diego. And it is not based on facts. We tracked people that came to the rally, had states report back to us cases that came from that rally. It was less than 100 cases that we could track to that and we did testing in that community and throughout the area for weeks after. So that was the big super spreader event, the Sturgis Valley rally. And now in 2021, even CNN can't lie the way that lie was just portrayed. Here's their report of what happened in 2020 after Sturgis.

31:21 About 460,000 people hailing from all corners of the US attended last year's rally. In a recent study, CDC researchers said at least 463 primary cases, including one death, were reported within two weeks of the 10-day tradition. And another 186 were identified as secondary contact. Cases were reported as far as Florida and Maine. contacts. Okay, so it wasn't all that bad, but that doesn't stop CBS this year. More than half a million bikers are expected to ride into the small town of Sturgis, South Dakota over the next 10 days as the Delta variant rips through the nation. Besides the bikes and beers, most are here for something many Americans can probably relate. Tired of living in

32:09 Staying at home and we're ready to go. I'm tired of living in fear. Mark and Jackie Bogue of Iowa may find exactly what they're looking for here. No mask requirements, no vaccination requirements, hardly any signs that the country is still battling a pandemic. They are coming from pretty much every state in the nation and this virus does not discriminate. You're setting the stage for something like a super spreader event. Yeah, yeah, who cares? Who's that guy? Just some guy. It doesn't matter who that guy is. In fact, it doesn't matter. This is the best, by the way. And as you continue these clips, everyone should note this. They're slamming Hawley because he's the guy from Missouri, because he's outspoken and he thinks Biden's a dipshit. And they're slamming Florida because DeSantos is a potential candidate for president. And they got to nip it in the bud. It's all political. It's all political. Yeah. And they're slamming Texas

33:01 for reasons unknown to me because I think they're trying to turn Texas blue and they want to get that idiot Beto back in the play. And so, but they're serious about McConaughey. They got nothing on that woman Governor Noem. She is Teflon and so they just say try to throw stuff at her and they just keep her out of the mix So it's Florida, Missouri and Texas and they never mentioned South Dakota. No, and I believe that today there's a rally in South Dakota with My pillow guy and he's gonna you know, he has more to show of his his cyber team his cyber monkey works And the audit now hey, it's and a lot of people are gonna be there and

33:45 I'm reliably informed. But now back to this Sturgis rally and you said, oh who is that guy? It doesn't matter. CBS will literally put anyone on the air and he's back. Dr. Michael Osterholm, the guy who started all and you know, I forgot your favorite. Well, I forgot to mention this, you know He was on the show that I was on the first time with Rogan that was March of 2020 and he and I met him and I Smelled I smelled something right away spooky is what I thought but I didn't know really what his deal was until I saw that interview later, but Joe told me that Dana White from Was it UFC?

34:26 that he had called Joe after the Osterholm episode aired and he said, oh my god, that guy did more harm for any type of public gathering than anyone has any idea. And that was when he was touting two and a half million people are going to die. So CBS keeps this guy, he just keeps coming back. I mean, Sturgis, hey, call up Osterholm. Joining us now is Dr. Michael Osterholm, Director for the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota. Doctor, it's good to see you again. Morning. Thank you. It's good to be with you. So let me ask you about what's happening there in South Dakota. More than half a million people are expected to attend. What are your concerns?

35:06 Well, anytime we bring a group of people like that together, they are going to spend time indoors. It's just a matter of whether they're in the bars, the tattoo parlors, or the casinos. And as we saw last year with Sturgis, we actually had a substantial number of cases tied to Sturgis that then were brought home to their various states. And then we saw more transmission in those states from the people who came back from Sturgis. So we have every reason to believe that this year is going to be just as bad if not worse. And on top of it right now, as you know, people are really feeling pretty well done with this virus in many locations of the country. The fact of the matter is the virus isn't done with us. We have state fairs that are about to be held that will bring in two million people to various locations. We have lots of festivals that are being held this year. So this is the month I think right now of these events that are going to unfortunately occur at the same time that this virus is surging. So this guy

36:00 You know, he was on the transition team for President Biden. And a question was raised about something else he said, which I don't have a clip of about masks, also on CBS. And this came up in the White House press briefing. I think you're confusing a few things there. But let me first say that Osterholm is not an advisor to the president, to the administration, to the White House. He doesn't work here. He's a private citizen and a medical public health expert. But a lot of public health experts are out there speaking and good for them. I will say that we are going to continue to rely on the advice of medical experts in the federal government. So he's out. He's not even, she's very clear. That kind of blew your theory up. Well no, it didn't blow my, who is he working for?

36:47 He's working for somebody. He's one of the intelligence agencies. He's working for the behavioral sciences department. There you go. He's on CBS this morning and he loves creating linkages. We've heard him talk about the tsunami. We're in a hurricane. We're in the monster's mouth. What will he come up with next? Doctor, you said something the other day that got my attention. These are your words. This virus will find you. It will infect you eventually. It made the hair stand up on the back of my neck because you said it was such certainty Can you elaborate a little bit on that and why it's so really scary for children? And why are why are you what I mean? Who is this guy that you take that from him Gail?

37:28 Well, Gail, as you know, this virus has only continued to become more and more transmissible or more infectious. Over the course of the last 18 months, we've had these mutations occur and each one of them, unfortunately, related to transmission has only made the virus more infectious. Now we have a situation where as you're seeing, you can go for months... Wait, wait, what did he say there? Hold on a second, what did he say? ...had these mutations occur and each one of them unfortunately are transmissible or more infectious. Here we go. Well, Gail, as you know, this virus has only continued to become more and more transmissible or more infectious. Over the course of the last 18 months, we've had these mutations occur, and each one of them, unfortunately, related to transmission has only made the virus more infectious.

38:15 Now we have a situation where you're seeing you can go for months in a given location with little activity and then you see these big surges occur. And what happens people feel like they're out of the woods. You know I keep telling people don't think you can run out the game clock. It's not going to happen. Ultimately this virus will keep circulating until it finds you. And I think the story that you had on just before this one on the forest fire is basically one of those great similarities. This fire will find that those trees that forest to burn eventually. That's what this virus is gonna do with us as humans. That is frightening. That's a visual. Yeah, it is indeed. Dr. Michael Osterholm, thank you sir. Appreciate it. You just heard four junior behavioral scientists at work right there in that clip. That's a scary visual.

39:03 This is really taking place in our lifetime. I could not be happier. This is the best time of my life. I'm happy right now. One more from this jabroni. Let me ask you about the Biden administration's plan to prioritize authorizing a booster shot for immunocompromised individuals. People wonder when they're going to be able to get their shots. How soon do you think this should happen? Well, we have a conflict going on right now that is normal, natural and unfortunate. And what I mean by that is that just two days ago the World Health Organization put out a plea for a moratorium on any booster shots around the world because of the fact countries like ours that have had two doses available for virtually everyone, whereas of the 6.4 billion people living in low and middle income countries, less than 1 to 2 percent have had access to vaccine at all.

39:55 And so the world is asking us not to do booster shots. Inside the country, those of those individuals who are still susceptible because they haven't had an adequate response to the first two shots are begging for their booster shot. So we've got this tension going on. I'm not sure how it will ultimately be decided. Someday, there's no question in my mind, boosters will be given. And the question is just how soon that that's going to happen. So catch what he's really up to there. Yeah, promoting started this now. Now she played that clip. This whole and the narrative is the same on all the networks and including democracy now.

40:31 Oh, we should not be giving booster shots to our citizens because the rest of the world hasn't gotten the shots. Yes, yes, yes, yes. This is the one. And so now it creates, oh my God, if I have a chance to get a booster, I'm going to get one because they're going to give all the shots to these screwballs in Africa. I don't want Africans getting the shot. I want to get the shot. I'm going to get, oh, I can get a booster. Oh, okay. I'm going to get a booster before they send it to Africa or who knows where. This is that creative fake shortage. There's no shortage. There's no shortage. Well, this is 80,000 doses expired in some area recently. I mean, there's tons of shots out there.

41:14 This is just to create a panic to get boosters so they get another shot into people. This is terrible. Osterholm is, he served on the committee on biomedical research of the public and scientific affairs board, the task force on biological weapons and the task force on antibiotic resistance, a frequent consultant to the World Health Organization, the National Institute of Health, the Food and Drug Administration, Department of Defense. and the CDC. He's a fellow of the American College of Epidemiology. But what he broaches there is absolutely right. Enter the globalist, and Gates is back. He's back in the picture. He's on CNN. He's with his buddy Anderson Cooper. And he is giving us not just a bleak view of the future, but he's telling us what it really should be like. And once again,

42:02 We were right. that all countries could get on top of the cases very quickly and be more like Australia than Europe or the United States ended up being. I'm involved in a lot of discussion about breakthroughs in diagnostics and therapeutics

42:38 the scaling of vaccine factories in that less than six months, eradicating flu. You know, we need to resource the preparedness for the next pandemic and we can get a lot of benefits out of that. People don't like flu and the common cold and you know, we can build tools that over time will get rid of those as well. Oh yeah, he's not done. He's not done. No, no, no, no, no. Just a couple, just back to network executive mode. Yes. Is this guy good television? Why are they keep putting him on? Is Anderson Cooper good television? I mean, no. You know the answer to that. Of course not. All they're doing is whatever promotion they're asked to at this point and the advertisers are having none of it and so they're pressuring the advertisers. You're right. It's a mess.

43:28 It's a mess over there. It's like a turd swirling around the bowl ready to go down. That's what CNN is. Now, it's... There's a visual. And there... Why don't they just have Tubin interview Gates? I think that would be funnier. Oh, I'm with you on that. I mean, if you and I were running the show over there... It'd be Tubin for sure. On a Zoom call. Hey, Billy Boy! Ladies and gentlemen, Jeffrey Toobin's gonna be on a Zoom call. You might get lucky. Here's part two. From a justice standpoint or just a moral standpoint, do you want to know how this started? Yeah, it's

44:17 I would continue that investigation. The last paper I saw showed evidence against the lab leak, but yes, we should investigate these things. But it's not directly tied to the particular actions to save lives at this point. Did like that little laugh in the beginning did you hear his little chuckle? Listen to the chuckle or just a moral standpoint. Do you want to know how this started? Yeah, it's I would continue that investigation. A lot of paper I saw showed evidence against it. You can't hear it that well. I didn't get it. Alright, so NBC, being the rapiest television network, can't really be siding up to Bill Gates at this moment with all kinds of

45:08 stuff hanging in the air. So they go through a back door to COVAX, which is the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation funded and run coalition of vaccine manufacturers. An international pandemic requires an international response. And that was the idea behind COVAX, a multi-billion dollar alliance launched to ensure that poor countries would get access to the life saving vaccines. It hasn't entirely worked out that way. Now, nearly 18 months into the pandemic, COVAX has delivered vaccine to 138 countries. But still, only about 15% of the world's population is fully vaccinated, with the highest numbers found in the world's richest countries. The greatest threat to our vaccination effort at home is our failure to invest adequately in vaccination abroad.

46:04 The Delta variant that we are suffering now is a byproduct of the virus spreading unchecked abroad. In March, we were given exclusive access to the rollout of nearly 900,000 COVAX vaccines in Uganda, enough to fully vaccinate about 1% of the population. Distribution is time consuming and expensive, which we saw as a UNICEF team delivered 40 precious doses to the Buvuma Islands. It's wonderful to have this and yet it's a much smaller amount than you'd hoped. Dr. Larry Brilliant helped eradicate smallpox. He says we cannot wait to vaccinate the rest of the world. We really have a stark choice in front of us. Either we export vaccine manufacturing factories or we will import from those same countries and others variants.

47:01 More vaccine sales. This is just more vaccine sales. That's all that this is. It's political, it's vaccines, and now, now the government, now they know, now they've kind of got a grip on it. Okay, everyone's teetering on the edge. You know, I'll tell you how I know we're teetering on the edge. I was interviewed yesterday by, I'm sorry, Friday by Guy Kawasaki. Oh, good old guy. Yeah, and Guy Kawasaki... Just give me the background on Guy Kawasaki. I only met him once before. Guy Kawasaki is a, best called as a classic Apple maven. He was one of the first evangelists there and he did a lot of writing. He's always been around. He's a pure personality, Silicon Valley personality type. And he's a nice enough guy, but he's curious. Here's an example. I was giving some presentations at an Apple Mac event

48:01 And Guy Kawasaki was up on the stage with me, and so we're yakking away. And I said, you know, Guy, the two of us, we both have one thing in common. And he says, what? And I said, conflict of interest. And he had the most blank look on his face I've ever seen on anybody. I mean he was completely oblivious to this joke and okay and it's really I haven't really talked to him much after that. So I think I met him years ago when we were raising money for Podshow slash Mevio and of all places I think I met him in

48:38 Who was the other CEO of Apple, the guy who Jobs came back and kicked him out? Scully. Oh, Scully. Scully. Scully was long gone by the time Jobs came back. Right. So it was... He'd gone to Spindler and that guy from National Semiconductor. Oh wait, maybe it was the French guy. Maybe it was Gil Amelio. Oh, Jean-Louis Gasset. Gasset! That's who it was. Gasset. Okay. So anyway, so that's the one time I met him. He has a podcast called Remarkable People and he asked if I, it actually was one of our producers badgering him on Twitter. Well done, well done everybody. Thank you, thank you very much. Because you know people will say, Bush I interview next on my show. Megyn Kelly does this all the time, all the time. Yes because they're hungry for guests. That's the reason you don't, well I don't want to get into it. No please say it, people need to understand this.

49:31 You don't want to do an interview show if you're going to get into podcasting. Find some other mechanism. Tell stories. Do true crime. Do anything. But to do interview after interview, because I've done it for years. I did it with The Real Computing Show, Software Hard Talk. We had a system at the Cranky Geeks, Silicon Spin. It's a nightmare. You have to have a full-time booker and she struggles and they can't get people and then people won't show up or they stiff you, they're not there, they're not there on time or they can't do it when you're actually doing the show. It's a doubt

50:08 and out night and then you're pestered by every public relations woman in the world. Put my boss on, my boss is a genius, my boss can, now you know usually the CEOs can't talk very well I'll tell them and she'll say oh no no no no this guy oh he oh no not with Bill he's yak yak yak he can't stop him from talking. Put him on the air, never says a word. I mean it's a nightmare to do, I can go on. The best way to do it is to become friends with someone who has a high-profile talk show and then just wait for the call. That's the best way. That's the Adam Curry system, also known as the Regis Philbin and Tony Randall system. So back to Guy Kawasaki. And I'm well prepared for this. He's a sharp guy. He's been around and I've listened to one or two bits of his show. Like, okay, it's just a conversation with Guy.

51:01 And so I was well prepared. We had this hour-long talk. You know, he wanted to know a lot about MTV. Of course, it was MTV's 40th birthday. We forgot to say, happy birthday, MTV. Thanks for 40 years and 14 years of music. That's the funny meme going around. And so it's like an hour. And at the very end, as we're wrapping it up, he says, you know, he says, OK, so you moved out of Austin. You're in the Hill Country. Are you vaccinated? Oh, please. At the very end, and of all the preparation I had done, I didn't expect that. And what came out of my mouth was... I would never have expected that, no. And what came out of my mouth was... And so, by the way, it's extremely lame to do what he did. It's lame. It has some... What's it got to do with what you're talking about?

51:55 Well, it was right at the end and I said, uh, no, no, I might consider it when it's FDA approved, but no, I'm not vaccinated. And that was almost the end of the interview. I was like, what the fuck? That is rude. It is irrelevant. And I guess he lives in California. Now, to be honest, the way, no, here's how it came about. He said, oh man, it's hard for me to remember all of this. You know, I'm in California. We're water rationing. And I said, well, that's what he said. Cut back. It's a 15% voluntary cutback. That's not the same. Well, he seems to be an extreme leftist and when he hears 15% cutback, he immediately goes out and is the victim of rationing. So I don't want to slam the guy, but I was so disappointed by that. And I really don't... And it ended and said goodbye, but I was like, holy crap, man.

52:53 That was so weird, but this is now becoming a thing. And I'll give you an example. One of our friends, her father is in his 90s and he wasn't doing too well. I think he may already has some dementia or Alzheimer's. And so he got a text from her, my dad's not doing well. He has COVID, he's in the intensive care. They think they're gonna have to intubate him. He's double vaccinated, but one of the nurses was unvaccinated. So what? What's that got to do with his vaccination? Nothing, but that's the point. The point is that now we can blame people. We can blame the community of the unvaccinated.

53:34 Bastards. Because she's in pain. Her dad, even though she realizes that the end was near regardless, she's in pain and it's very natural to want to lash out and blame something or someone. But what came out was a nurse was unvaccinated. Isn't that the nurse was unvaccinated and had COVID? No, she was just unvaccinated. She's just a nurse who's probably healthy as anybody. And this is where... Because she'd give it to him. And this is the sweet spot of mind control. And here's an example of the confusion that puts everyone's brain into a state and of course completely messes with your amygdala. This is our CDC director a week and a half ago. Our data from the CDC today suggests that vaccinated people do not carry the virus, don't get sick, and that it's not just in the clinical trials but it's also in real world data.

54:31 And here she is this week. Our vaccines are working exceptionally well. They continue to work well for Delta with regard to severe illness and death. They prevent it. But what they can't do anymore is prevent transmission. Oh, OK. And so, of course, you know, we don't have. We have all kinds of measures about the, you know, 4,000 times the in your nose and whatever Fauci was saying. But we have zero information on it prevents you from getting seriously ill and being hospitalized. Well, the hospitalized part we know is not true because there are lots of people in the hospital who have been vaccinated. But the confusion has been sowed

55:13 And this is why you get these types of responses and it's very easy to manipulate someone because the next step from it was someone who was unvaccinated is it was a Republican. That's the next step. That's what they're aiming for. It's all political. This is from TikTok. Just a creative little ditty from a young woman on TikTok and you'll understand what's going on in society. Did you get the vaccine? No. Why? Why didn't you get it? What if you catch COVID? The vaccine doesn't stop you from catching COVID. Why are you being so selfish? What if you catch it and give it to me? But you've been vaccinated. Yeah, but you can still give it to me. What's the vaccine for then? It'll stop you from getting really sick and dying if you catch it. So if I catch it and give it to you, but you've already had the vaccine, it'll still stop you from getting really sick and dying. Exactly. That's why you should get it. That's why I should get it? But you got it already. But if you catch it, you could get sick and die.

56:14 So by not getting the vaccine, the only person I'm putting at risk is myself? Of getting sick and dying? No, you're putting me at risk! Didn't you already get the vaccine so you won't get sick and die even if I gave it to you? But you could give it to someone who can't be vaccinated. But so could someone who's been vaccinated because the vaccine doesn't stop you from getting COVID. Just do it, okay? It's the right thing. Wow! That's Clip of the Day. Nice catch. Thank you very much. Whoever got that for you. That was, um... Grand Duke David Foley sent me that one. Ah, that was a beauty. Well, he must be bored. That is an absolute gem. So, but what you get now is stories like Jennifer Aniston claps back at criticism over cutting non-vaccinated people out of her life. The band Offspring kicked one of their band members out for refusing the COVID vaccine on doctor's orders because he had COVID and has natural immunity.

57:15 This is worse, this is much worse than Trump. Much worse than my dad voted for Trump, my parents watched Fox News. This is evil. Well that offspring story is disgusting. Are those guys that dumb? Well, yes, but when you have the behavioral scientists and this change which is very poorly explained, all of a sudden the vaccine, it goes against the narrative. The president himself said get the shot, you won't need to wear the mask. So people are confused and no one just comes out and says, hey,

57:54 It does not work the way we expected. So, and maybe we need to stop vaccinating because that might be creating variants. But who am I? I'm just a, I'm not good enough to be in the disinfo dozen, but CNN certainly loves to highlight it. This is the number one, number one on the list, right ahead of number two, which is Robert F. Kennedy, Robert Kennedy Jr. Number two on the hit list, a list, a list of people you need to be afraid of and who are wrong and bad is Dr. Mercola. And this shit goes so far that the Wayback Machine, archive.org, has removed all of Mercola's sites. All is... What? Yes, sir. If you look... The Wayback... Oh, I got to... I know the guy who runs it. I'm going to have to find out what that's all about. If you go to the... He must be under tremendous pressure.

58:47 The archive.org guy or Mercola or both? No, the archive.org guy. I've never heard of archive.org doing that. That's news to me. Anyway, let's listen to how CNN does this and they had a nine minute hit piece. They went to his office and everything. This is just the intro. He is the ultimate super spreader. I'm done. I mean, that's it. The ultimate super spreader. He is in fact responsible for death the way this is being positioned. He is the ultimate super spreader, not of the coronavirus experts say, but of misinformation about COVID-19.

59:28 His name is Dr. Joseph Mercola. It is very likely that most people in America, if not the vast majority of people in America, have seen misinformation that has originated with this super spreader of lies and misinformation. That's exactly why the Center for Countering Digital Hate, a non-profit tracking misinformation about COVID online, put Dr. Mercola, an osteopathic physician, at the top of its disinformation dozen. A list of 12 people, the group says, were the source for sharing 65% of all anti-vaccine messaging on Facebook and Twitter from February 1st through mid-March. Who developed that figure? We're always getting these figures, 97.5, this and that. There's always a 50%, 60%. Who developed that? I've never seen a report developing that figure.

1:00:24 that these 12 people are responsible for whatever percentage exactly. Nobody's monitoring this. Yes, yes. Hold on a second. I need to remind you. The reason you hear a British guy from this outfit, the Center for Digital Hate, you'll recall that is a British non-profit funded in majority by the British government. This is a British government employee, indirectly contractor, telling us that this doctor... behavioral sciences. He's probably what he is. A list of 12 people the group says were the source for sharing... Let me give you the name of that group because that's important. 65% of all anti-vaccine messaging on Facebook and Twitter from February 1st through mid-March. In a pandemic

1:01:15 Misinformation has a life that has a cost that's paid in lives. We tried to track down Dr. Mercola to ask him about the misinformation he's been posting. I should probably get the name of that place. Hold on. What is the name of that? 19. His name is Dr. Joseph Mercola. It is very likely that this is the guy. Let me just find out what his name, what his organization is. The vast majority of people in America have seen misinformation that has originated with this super spreader of lies and misinformation. That's exactly why the Center for Countering Digital Hate. The Center for Countering Digital Hate. We talked about a couple of shows ago.

1:01:54 They're the ones that have put together this dirty disinfo. I have looked at their website, I've looked at their PDFs, I also have not seen any calculation. They just said, you know, here's the 12 and here's why and here's what they're saying. So now we move on to the next piece, which is the mandates. And I have to say one out of every five emails I've received in the past week has been someone who has to make a decision or their company. Have you received a lot of emails like this? Where their company says, well, these poor people, I feel bad about it. Yeah, it's like, you know, in six weeks or whatever, two weeks, we're all going to have to be mandated or we don't have a job.

1:02:41 And this is... Do yourself a favor and don't get the Pfizer. No, I mean, but people are taking a stand. They're saying, you know what? Screw that job. It's hard for medical workers. That's probably the hardest. But I was going to say that this is partially the government's doing. And this coercion is taking place throughout the corporate sector. And I have one example from a producer who works at a meat... And don't forget they're being cheerleaded on by the media. Oh yeah, and this producer who has to go anonymously works at I think maybe a co-owner of a meat processing factory.

1:03:35 So, a very long email just highlighted a couple things. Coercion. They know people will ignore any state or local lockdown, so they leave it up to the federal government to mandate their rotten agenda. They will control by coercing private businesses by threatening to pull licensing, funding, and screaming about how much those companies took in PPP money, of which of course there was no stipulation to follow. So, what's happening now is in the meat processing business, they're getting notices that you are not in compliance with FSIS, which is the food safety inspection services, who demand that the workplace they go into to inspect

1:04:19 has to adhere to the COVID rules, which is at least all masks, all masked up, vaccinations, they're talking about that. That's how they do it. That's how the government coerces businesses into these mandates. And it's to do that And by the way, people who are all on board with this, you just wait. If they pull this off and all these mandates, all these corporations jump on board, it'll be your turn eventually. They're going to have some other shot that you're not going to want and then you're going to have to shut up and take it if we let this go on.

1:04:57 No, I think there's litigation involved here too. The government and the vaccine companies, it's not like a gun company, they're really not responsible because they've been made... you can't sue the vaccine company for damage. But you could sue your companies. I think a lot of corporations are going to get sued if something occurs down the road that's a result of this vaccine that you forced your employee to take. The only thing is very risky. Oh, yeah. Well, the only immunity this vaccine gives us to the vaccine manufacturers. Yeah, just the smart money. That's smart guys. That's the only immunity. Take a look at your portfolio and take a look at theirs. Take a look at your wallet. Take a look at theirs and see who's going to win in this thing. So now we're at a point where everyone is worried.

1:05:48 the seething, infected, unvaccinated, clearly Republicans. This is why Guy Kawasaki says, oh Hill Country, you moved out of Austin? Are you vaccinated up there? By the way, Gillespie County has about 26,000 people, of which 11,000 are fully vaccinated, 13,000 partially. So it's pretty damn close. But okay, we're a bunch of idiots up here. And that's gonna so ruin that interview if he leaves that in. People are gonna hate me. Oh, you're not vaccinated, you're part of the problem. This is what's going on. No, it's really going to get evil. So now we need to have identity. And Zero Hedge reported that if you are, so first of all, if you are fired because you don't accept the vaccination regime, you are probably not eligible for unemployment benefits.

1:06:43 I don't believe that. Only still you still would have to go for religious, sincere religious beliefs or medical belief but this, you know, there are lawyers who are looking at this and saying, you know, it might actually be harder than you think. We have a good, I got a good letter, I'll be posting it somewhere, maybe in a newsletter, where the guy Use as a Catholic using the some methodologies that are a little different to answer the questions about religious beliefs is just dynamite. in terms of its vigor. Yeah, please do post that, do post that. So vaccine passports now we're way behind the European Union. The Labour Minister in France, man, she said employees suspended because they didn't have a health pass will not be entitled to unemployment benefits. Boom. That's France.

1:07:42 The vaccine passports being implemented everywhere, yes. In most cases a 48-hour test will suffice. But you really want what is categorized in this again CBS report. You really want the goods man You want the golden ticket want to see inside the Coliseum or how about the Sistine Chapel? Not without a kovat pass as of today It's Italy's golden ticket for most indoor venues from movies and museums to pizzerias Brad Carlson is a Texas tourist visiting just before the new rules took effect and without getting vaccinated

1:08:22 How would you get into restaurants and things like that without your vaccination here in Italy? I wouldn't be able to. If he got tested, a negative result from the past 48 hours would also do the trick. For the vaccinated, your CDC card is just as good. I think it's a good idea really actually because it makes the people who have been vaccinated feel a little safer. For Italians, some have taken to the streets calling it a violation of civil liberties. But for the vast majority, it's a way to ensure Italy, once the epicenter of the pandemic, never returns to the hell of last year when they ran out of space to bury the dead.

1:09:06 Indeed, vaccination rates have tripled in some regions shortly after the new rules were rolled out. This after a slow vaccination start in Europe, but today more people are getting vaccinated in the EU than in the US. Oh yes, foam finger number one. What? Did you hear that line in there? One? Multiple lies. Well, this was my favorite. Having the card makes the people who have been vaccinated feel safer. Yeah. What? Oh yeah, there's a lot of... well and that is true. How does that work? Well I'll tell you how it works because the feeling is real, people feel safer, but are these apps really worth their salt? As you know we had the Excelsior pass in New York. Excelsior literally means above, so you're above all the other losers who don't have your Excelsior pass.

1:10:02 And by the way, that's a Trump name. Trump uses Excelsior on stuff. I can't believe that New York City did that. And then Cuomo introduced, I'm sorry, de Blasio introduced the keys to the city. Yes, your very own version of the golden ticket with the COVID safe app. And let's see how well that works. Surveillance technology oversight project founder and executive director Albert Foxconn read NYC COVID safe's terms and conditions and found the city's app internet enabled to document one's IP address every time they open it. He also uploaded a photo of Mickey Mouse in place of his vaccine card and the app approved

1:10:37 Mickey with three green check marks, leaving Khan confused as to why the city developed its own app at all. I think this is just more proof of the dysfunction between City Hall and Albany. More than 3 million New Yorkers have downloaded the state's Excelsior Pass. I haven't actually had her use it much lately. And the governor announced Excelsior Plus on Thursday, allowing New Yorkers to use Excelsior at select locations around the world. But Khan also worried for that app's security, hacking it with the user's permission in just 11 minutes. There you go. So it's a mess. It's a mess as typical. I have the de Blasio New York City COVID report that might be interesting. Yes, I think it will be. New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio has announced the city will soon require proof of vaccination to dine indoors, go to the gym or attend indoor entertainment events.

1:11:28 So that does not include an option for... No, no, it's just that you need to... Straight up. The black community is the one that's going to suffer because they're going to shut their restaurants down. Of course they are. Starve them out. But, you know, it's not like they don't know that. So, I mean, again, I can only come back to mass hysteria. They're creating this on purpose to control people with the fear they have. I'm not buying that they don't know it. I'm convinced they know it. I'm sorry, I'm not buying that they know it. I'm convinced that they're so stupid that they don't know it. But that's different from your analysis and mine. I'll take it. I'll take that. Here's another...

1:12:13 Yeah, go ahead. I want to get these clips out of here. Yeah, me too. There's a Republican COVID report on democracy now. Oh, there you go. Here in the United States, Florida Republican Governor Ron DeSantis is rejecting calls to impose a mask mandate as the state set a new record with over 11,500 hospitalized COVID patients. Doctors say 95% of the patients are unvaccinated. Louisiana has reinstated an indoor mask mandate as its hospitals also struggled to treat a record number of COVID patients. The American Academy of Pediatrics reports 72,000 children in the United States tested positive for COVID last week, an 85% increase over the previous week. The academy estimates less than 2% of children infected require hospitalization. Oh, won't somebody please think of the children? So you know what kids are doing around the country?

1:11:28 So that does not include an option for... No, no, it's just that you need to... Straight up. The black community is the one that's going to suffer because they're going to shut their restaurants down. Of course they are. Starve them out. But, you know, it's not like they don't know that. So, I mean, again, I can only come back to mass hysteria. They're creating this on purpose to control people with the fear they have. I'm not buying that they don't know it. I'm convinced they know it. I'm sorry, I'm not buying that they know it. I'm convinced that they're so stupid that they don't know it. But that's different from your analysis and mine. I'll take it. I'll take that. Here's another...

1:12:13 Yeah, go ahead. I want to get these clips out of here. Yeah, me too. There's a Republican COVID report on democracy now. Oh, there you go. Here in the United States, Florida Republican Governor Ron DeSantis is rejecting calls to impose a mask mandate as the state set a new record with over 11,500 hospitalized COVID patients. Doctors say 95% of the patients are unvaccinated. Louisiana has reinstated an indoor mask mandate as its hospitals also struggled to treat a record number of COVID patients. The American Academy of Pediatrics reports 72,000 children in the United States tested positive for COVID last week, an 85% increase over the previous week. The academy estimates less than 2% of children infected require hospitalization. Oh, won't somebody please think of the children? So you know what kids are doing around the country?

1:13:13 Yes, I do. They're faking their test with the soft drink, is it not? Coca-Cola. Coca-Cola, yeah. So you take the home test and apparently orange juice does this too. But wait, I thought this was only in the UK with the lateral flow test. I didn't think this was happening in the US. No, I understand this. Everyone has their home kit. The home kit. And so the kid will get the COVID and then he can stay home and goof around on a video game. I mean, you know this was going to go on, right? Once they discover this. Oh, yeah. Well, the word is out. The word is out. Of course, kids. I mean, we're late to the party, probably on that knowledge. But this is. Here's another. This is another one that report this kind of offbeat. This is the Bode. This is Boris Johnson, the Bojo. New report. Another new report. This guy. This guy's under a lot of pressure, it seems. British Prime Minister Boris Johnson is at the center of yet another coronavirus controversy.

1:14:13 Vicki Barker reports from London. AIDS initially said Johnson never had close contact with the person, so did not need to quarantine. It's now being reported the two were actually side by side on several occasions. No comments from spokesmen so far. In June, when Health Secretary Sajid Javid was diagnosed with the coronavirus one day after meeting with Johnson, AIDS initially said the Prime Minister would forego quarantining in lieu of daily testing.

1:14:57 but then quickly backed down after a public uproar. This is another one of the problems. And you're right, they're dumb because people get really pissed off when you seem to have more privilege than them. In fact, I think that that's what happened this weekend. President Obama had his big 60th birthday celebration. The big bash was planned. Star-studded celebrities, 500 people, 200 staff as reported. And then... Yeah, you set a trap for yourself. And they had... What? You set a trap for yourself. And so they had to scale that back down to just close friends and family. A lot of people were disappointed because Michelle was supposed to do a gender reveal. So it's like... Whoa, okay, alright. A long way to go for that one. You know what happened to Joan Rivers when she said that? Yeah, she got killed. You're next.

1:15:54 Okay, DeSantis and let's have something else wind it up here pretty soon, but you got more I got two more go ahead go ahead good I want to the one is this one is a roundabout that which would take us to the next thing which is a COVID to Cuomo because it oh wait Let me let me do that before you get to Cuomo before we do that. I want to play This is a very long clip that I It's really, I didn't cut it down. I could have cut it down because it's only interesting at the beginning. You can just stop it. But this is an interesting little thing going on is most people aren't asking for vaccine cards. They're looking for vaccine affirmations. Affirmation? What's an affirmation? Well, this in the clip. In other words, you say, did you get a vaccine? Yes, I got the vaccine. This was Mimi at the meetup, by the way, telling everyone to just lie.

1:16:42 Telling everybody, literally. I just tell them, you get the vaccine, who gives a shit? Who cares? Nobody cares. Nobody's gonna check. But this is, in California, it seems to be what they are doing mostly because the lack of the cards, people lose the cards, there's no central database, you know, it was never planned. To turn it into this massive thing they're trying to do. It's too late. This is part of the... When they break this down in a couple of years, they're gonna look back and say, well, here's what we did wrong. Yeah, yeah. I need to post-mortem on this one. and they're going to have a good time with it. But listen to this. This is an interesting report. You can play it for as long as you want. The divisions over vaccines are creating challenges for people trying to ensure workplace safety. Some employers are asking workers to show proof of vaccination, and some, including the federal government, are asking instead for employees to attest to their vaccination status. NPR Consumer Health correspondent Yuki Noguchi is here to explain. Hi, Yuki.

1:17:37 Hi Ari. Explain what a test means exactly and how it's different from showing proof. Well, a testing is basically self-reporting, saying you're vaccinated or you're not. You've probably seen apps or forums that ask you your vaccine status before you travel on a plane or drop a kid off at camp. And that's basically what we're talking about. Yvette Lee is an advisor at the Society for Human Resource Management. She calls it an honor system, except Some employers will also likely ask workers to sign pledges saying they're telling the truth and that gives these policies teeth in case a worker is caught lying. If an employee lies about their vaccination, there are employers that are taking disciplinary actions. What was this NPR? What is this?

1:18:22 Yes. Yeah. Okay. And Ari, just this week, CNN fired three employees for lying on their attestation and coming to work unvaccinated. How is attestation different from a mandate? See, I don't care if the clip is 10 minutes, if they're talking like this, I can listen for a long time. A long time. Well, it is because a mandate is a requirement and attestation is just giving your word. So the employer can also ask to verify that you're telling the truth. But in this case, verification can be hard. You know, people lose those vaccination cards or could fake them. And there's no national database out there tracking every person who's received vaccines.

1:19:05 So that's why Lindsay Wiley, who directs the Health Law and Policy Program at American University, says relying on workers' word is kind of a quick and dirty alternative. Attestation sidesteps the verification process unless the employer, which the federal government has so far indicated it's not going to do, collects additional information that it can use to cross-check. It seems like a lot hinges on the question of honesty here. Like, how do we know if our co-workers or employees are lying? How well do honor systems like this actually work? So this is where that whole, we caught that. We caught that attestation thing. You're right. That's what this is. What all these companies are saying, you please attest that you have had, have been vaccinated. And yeah, they're not asking for proof. You don't have to show it, but I'm against that personally.

1:19:56 Yeah, no, in fact this came up in a conversation with Mimi. Yeah, you're one of these... Go into it. But yes, I think your position is valid. It's a very bad anniversary topic. You're gonna be in the boxcar on your way. It's a bad anniversary topic. There you go. There goes Curry in the boxcar. Where's he going? I don't know. Alright, seriously, I mean, I'm so against this. But obviously it can be done. But man, this is just the beginning. If we let them get away with it and everyone's like, okay, it's a bull crap thing. Yeah, it depends on what the status of the system is. If you believe the system is honest and fair and everybody's on the up and up and there's no corruption, yeah, then your position is absolutely valid. I could continue with the clip. Yes. Well, you can compare it to honor codes at colleges where students are asked to attest that they won't cheat or plagiarize.

1:20:57 Christian Miller studies honesty as a philosophy professor at Wake Forest University. He says these honor codes can make a big difference. 28% of college students asked schools without an honor code reported helping another person on a test, whereas only 9% did ask schools with an honor code. That's 28% versus 9%. And Miller says this is why. It matters to us. We care about being able to think of ourselves as honest people. And he cites another study where students were given the opportunity to lie about how they did on a test. They could self-report their own scores and they were paid for each correct answer. You would have gotten away with it. So there was a real concrete monetary incentive to cheat.

1:21:40 And yet, when students were reminded of the honor code, Ari, they did not lie. All right, so research suggests that honor codes can reduce the amount of lying. When it comes to vaccination and protecting people in a workplace, is reducing that risk enough to keep people safe? Well, this is about managing risk, not eliminating them. So yes, there's some risk of unvaccinated workers lying on their attestation and then coming to work anyway. But those people also bear the risk from lying. They could end up losing their jobs. Now, employers have risks too. If they say, prove you're vaccinated or you're fired, then they risk losing employees. And so that's the tradeoff. Kavita,

1:22:21 Patel is a physician at Mary's Center in Washington, D.C. She sees people lie when they attest to things, whether it's about smoking or if they have COVID symptoms. So she would prefer a vaccine mandate at her workplace. But she also knows that that could alienate some of her staff. We can't afford to fire them. We can't afford to suspend them. That's just unfortunately the job market. And that's frankly the dilemma for many employers. NPR, Sue Kinaguchi, thank you. Wow. I'm surprised you got through that whole clip. No, I was able to do that. But this is going to be, you know, these golden tickets, these passports, not everyone is going to lie. In fact, I hope a lot of people don't lie. But it's going to hurt business.

1:23:07 It's a really long email that I put in the show notes. It's definitely gonna hurt business. One of our producers talked about the real issues behind, you know, Spirit Airlines basically melted down. You know, they couldn't fly, and every airline is experiencing this. And most of it is just because they don't have enough staff. They just don't have the staff. And then with Spirit Airlines, and this happens to be a dude named Ben, they also really didn't have the... what they call the SOC, the Systems Operation Control Center. They had one in Fort Lauderdale, they moved it to Nashville. I mean, this is scheduling resources and particularly flight crews when they have deadheads and they, you know, if a crew has a flight from Miami in the morning but they can only get to, you know, they can only get to LaGuardia in the evening before, you know, they're not gonna be able to fly the next day. And so it's messing everything up

1:24:06 It's a nightmare. It really is, although, you know, Berkshire Hathaway operating earnings up 21 percent, all that train stuff doing real good for them. Real good for them, real good for them. And just remember, without a mandate, it could put kids in danger. Yeah, we need a mandate, kids who could be in danger. And then the kicker for me was this final clip that I've got on this, on this stuff. There's more, but it's Fauci. You know, he's now starting to promote the Pfizer-Mectan. Which is the new name for the drug that we came up with for them. So it's Ivermectin, only it's not really so we can patent it. It's Pfizer-Mectin. It's something completely new. But is it? We're looking at an orally administered, maybe 7 to 10 days,

1:24:55 given to person who is early on in the course of their infection before you get to the cascade of events that lead to the aberrant activation inflammatory response that kills people. Because we know now from a lot of experience with the care of these individuals that if you can keep that virus from going to the upper airway to going down into the lung and other organ systems, you can change what could be a devastating disease and make it an upper airway common cold type approach, which is really what we need to do. We only need to knock out that virus for about seven to 10 days rather than lifelong what we have to do with HIV.

1:25:44 Now, that puzzled me to no end. I think he's talking about an ivermectin type solution which seems to be effective. There's been a lot of studies, but okay. A lot, hundreds. The mainstream likes to highlight just one. But here, all of a sudden, he equates it to what I believe is he's equating it to PrEP for HIV. Which is, you know, we see this advertised on TV quite a bit. It's like it lowers your chances of getting infected with HIV. But you have to take that every day. Why does he bring that up in this context of this Pfizer-Mectin? And I'll play the last few seconds. Which is really what we need to do. We only need to knock out that virus

1:26:33 for about seven to ten days rather than lifelong what we have to do with HIV. So is it going to be prep? Is it going to be a... No, no, no. This was a... answering a question in advance of the question being asked. That's all it is. Oh, I see what you're saying. Well, I guess what he can say is That's because you know we never got a vaccine for AIDS. Some smart-ass reporter is gonna ask him, well you said the similar very similar things blah blah blah about AIDS and and it's like and he's gonna have to answer this way. This is just a preemptive strike that's all it was. It had nothing to do with the type of drug I'm sure of it. That's what he the guy's been well I guys probably the number one media expert in the world at this point in time. Yes.

1:27:27 What do we call them again? Behavioral psychologists. Behavioral scientists. Well, the only other thing I could take away from it is, you know, that we never had a vaccine for AIDS. So the, we solved AIDS is this prep which you can take. And that's the only thing that Fauci can stand for after, I think, 400, you know, billions and billions of dollars for AIDS research. Maybe he knows that that's the way out is, we're going to solve this just the way we solved AIDS. which of course HIV and AIDS, two different things, but that will be the headline. We're going to do it the same way. It's a miracle. PrEP is a miracle drug. This is the miracle drug. Pfizer-Mectin is the miracle drug for the for the pandemics. Yeah, I'm just not sure my analysis is absolutely correct. Well, I'm glad it is. And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and your expert analysis and say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in menticide, ladies and gentlemen,

1:28:25 John C. DeVoregg! In the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry. In the morning to all ships at sea, boots on the ground and feet in the air. Also, all the subs or something or other and all the dames and knights out there. That was close to get Raven on the stage. I kind of like that. In the morning to... Well, hey, there's the trolls. Let's count the trolls here for a second. Hands up, trolls. All right, all right. Look at them skirting around. Ugly trolls. Ugly! 2314 John man, we're up again. I'm loving this putting that down as the record to what did I just say it was to three three four two three fourteen that is the record for a but make sure you put down Sunday

1:29:09 That's the Sunday record. The two days are different for records. Definitely. Definitely. Definitely. For sure. Yeah, for reals. Alright. Well, the trolls are there in the troll room. and they are trolling around. They do that during our live shows. They're there all the time, 24-7. You can find it at trollroom.io and they party together and they troll and they give good information. Party, party. It's very... They don't sound like that. Trolls don't sing like that.

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1:30:38 We also like to thank the artist for the artwork for episode 1370 which we titled Jab Click Share and a reminder that no agenda art generator is where anyone can upload art they think is good enough for the album. As long as it's original or original enough. Yeah or or it adheres to what do we call it? Fair use. Adheres to fair use. But we like original art. If you don't know how to do that, don't even try. We like original art. And we had quite a conversation. What we wound up choosing is Nessworks, the Marlboro anti-vax, well it doesn't say Marlboro, but it says anti-vax cigarettes. Better than a jab. Now there were some other cigarettes that were actually

1:31:32 as funny or better executed by Jordan 33 is one of them. Let me see which I like the Jordan 33 piece except for the fact that it never said no agenda Yeah, we discussed that it may have said at some place where it's unrecognized No, no, this was the Kovacs lights if you're playing along at home or if you're using a podcasting to point out pretty pretty piece great piece But yeah, there's no branding. I mean you forgot the branding name. Yeah. Hello I Let's see, what else did we like? Well, you liked the two crazy goat. No, first of all, you liked Died by Death. That was the first one. I liked Died by Death. Yeah, but we've had Gravestone, Tombstones. I like Died by Death. Tombstones are, to me, always funny. I loved the two screaming goats by Mike Riley. Mike Riley, but I have to read a note or something. That's from him, but from somebody that relates to him.

1:32:31 I'll do that later. Did you see Mike Riley has a whole commercial for his book and you're quoted as an endorser of said book? Yeah, I endorse his material a lot. Of course! I love his stuff. Of course we do. I'm like, where's my endorsement? I also like the two screaming goats. There was no endorsement for it. I get to endorse him. Well, you can endorse him. I'm wide open for endorsements. Let me mention it. There's something... It's always weird when you do something and say, hey, can you give me a quote or a blurb? You know, I'll just... let me read it out. And they never give you the quote. They're a bunch of idiots. And so my...

1:33:08 Former agent and friend John Bach John Bach Bachman Brockman Brockman. I know I'm sticking Bachman. Oh, it's some sausages Bachman overdrive so John Brockman said to me once he was good friends with Alan Watts the Philosopher Zen guy and he says that Alan Watts would do a blurb at the drop of a hat for anybody. Oh, I He says he just that was his policy because it was good publicity and nobody cares about the blurbs anyway You know call you and hey you said that was a good book, but it turned out to be crap that has never happened with you They would have done it believe me no they know this fact I blurbed a lot of stuff that is Borderline and but not Riley stuff his stuff is good But I like the two screaming ghosts because it's like represents the two of us in the in the paintings the scream yeah

1:34:05 Yeah, and only it's to scream. I just thought it was funny. The other one I liked a lot. I have to mention Oh, yeah, is it Cuomo's book of hand magic? The this piece and I looked at all his art. I think it's on the second page This piece I use it for the newsletter get the news or you'd see this thing there. Where is it a hand magic piece? Yeah, I got it right here Where is it? So it says the principles and techniques to disappear seniors. Cuomo's book of hand magic. It was a very good piece, but I didn't I felt it was a little too understated for album art because this didn't really jump out. No, you didn't like it. Oh, I like it. I just didn't think. Be honest. No, I'm such a

1:34:55 No, I'm just... The stuff I don't like, I mean you could not like something without being critical. I didn't say I didn't like it, I said it wasn't appropriate for the album art and then we both said it's good for the newsletter. The one I liked the most, the one I wanted but couldn't even let myself do it was from Nessworks, was the Vax Me Baby. That's the one I wanted. Oh no, Vax Me Baby, which was a piece of cheesecake. I mean, I almost used it this morning for the pre-stream. The cheesecake art, which is a girl, it looks like a whore or something, I can't tell. Yes. Yeah, she's like a hooker. Dominatrix, no, she's a dominatrix nurse. Okay, well whatever she is, it was the kind of cheesecake art that Darren O'Neill has been trying and trying and trying to accomplish, but he doesn't have the

1:35:42 I don't want to say he doesn't have the right attitude, that's what it is. And he definitely has his attitude problem. He's got an attitude problem. So Nessworks is a pro that can do this sort of thing. And so that piece we debated and debated and debated, but it was just not going to cut it. I do want this piece printed out and framed. It's a beautiful piece. It's everything. The sheen in her hair. Everything is just the font. Everything's good about it. The other one I liked was the Love Gov by Kanye Band. I thought it was a good piece. You really like the Tantha Neal's jab, click, share. That was your favorite. Where? Let me see where that was. It's on page two near the top. Yeah, well, but we had kind of reserved that for the title. Yeah, and that's what eliminated that piece, but that piece is well structured. I don't want to go on and on to an extreme. Why not? But I will say that I'm going to go back to the

1:36:46 Cuomo hand if I could find it there it is the Cuomo hand I want to mention this because this artist is fairly new is called capitalist agenda and he just started doing art in from the looks of you doing you give him a little attaboy I like it July 4th and I'll tell you why he does a type of art is its borderline It's like modernist, it's a little bit of Bauhaus, it's got some old-fashioned Germanic expressionist style, which this piece did in spades. He uses textures and shades like none of the other artists do. I mean, he looks like he put too much effort into stuff. And this piece in particular, because he's got that background, that book, it's both textured, it's shaded, it's got an overlay of some sort.

1:37:37 It's just a dynamite piece of... it's real, it's up there. It's the kind of stuff that's high-end. And he's got a couple other pieces in his portfolio that look pretty good too. Whether he's gonna ever win one of these things, I'm not sure. I'll say this with that piece, you would have eliminated because of the little, the blurb on the side of the magic hat. It's unreadable. It's unreadable. Yeah. It's funny, but it's unreadable. He's on the chart with a bullet. We'll keep an eye out for him. I've got to definitely put him on the newsletter because I just like this piece. But the piece is actually maybe even too... it might be too much.

1:38:20 You're really blown away by this. I like this guy. I can tell you do well. I don't know if he's a pro, but he's got all the elements. We do congratulate Nessworks with the album art for episode 1370. Now you can go to noagendaartgenerator.com and take a look at all of this or just try out a new podcast app, newpodcastapps.com. And you can see it rotating as we talk about it right there in your app. It's magic. Now let's thank some of the contributors. We are a completely audience produced show. We have no listeners, zero listeners. We only have producers. We ask that you come to the table with time, talent or treasure when you can. And well, that was some definite talent and time that was spent on the art. Now for our executive producers and associate executive producers, just like Hollywood, these credits are real. Go look on IMDB. If you've never been an executive producer, you should try that at least once in your life because it does look good and it's great for dating.

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1:43:18 I hate long donation letters so that's it no jingles of karma. I would play that stupid boogity boogity thing three times because John hates it but I probably hate it more than he does. Signed Mr. Lips. So I guess we don't play it then. No. He hates it. He does. Alright Mr. Lips thank you. 388.98 from Sir Chris of Carmel by the Sea and he says John happy 33rd anniversary to you and Mimi. Dane, Kristen and I are also celebrating our anniversary today, 23 years. And they never had a fight! I love you, Bird! Thanks for your courage and all the best to the Noah Jenna family. No jingles, no karma, Sir Chris of Carmel by the sea. You got it. Thank you. And congratulations. John Holler from Nashua, New Hampshire comes in with 350. We have a long list today, so we're happy. But it's long. Please credit my donation to Lieutenant Winters.

1:44:14 You got it, switcheroo. You got it. Please make a note. Done. Number seven, I've donated to this show before but had to bump this contribution up to executive producer level because of the tremendous value and actual comfort you've provided to me and my wife over the past months. The most recent example was last week. I work for a large software company on the east coast and there have been rumblings that the company was going to make the experimental jab mandatory. Last week on an all-hands call with thousands of employees on the line, oh god. Yeah. The CEO stated his intention to make it mandatory.

1:44:56 He then went on to state how the only reason we're having problems with Delta is because of these unvaccinated people that are allowing it a place to grow and mutate. This is it. This is the mind control. This is the program. And this is the CEO. It's evil. Evil shit, man. CEO. The guy should have some common sense. He's CEO. That's a top of the top. These guys are overpaid. The buck stops there. He said it makes him angry to think about how they are hurting us all, all the unvaccinated community. Yes. And that it doesn't bother him one bit. Do that again. He went, unvaccinated community. The unvaccinated community.

1:45:44 It doesn't bother him one bit if people love their job because, this is interesting, because if they refuse to do the right thing, it doesn't matter if they love their job or if they refuse to do the right thing. This is again a sickness. If you love your job, you think that's the employee you want, you get a drink of tea. We were listening to No Agenda after taking all that in and you read a letter from one of the other producers where they refused to fill out a survey on a vaccination status. The letter closed with a great message about how they didn't think it was worth compromising over a corporate job that pays in rapidly depreciating fiat. Yes! Okay. The message was perfectly timed to help solidify our resolve to not get the vaccine. I guess there's a group of people at this company that listen to the show. Yes.

1:46:38 We're gonna end up on that list. We're gonna have to make it the third all we do is deconstruct the news be Anyone listening I want to be on that list. That's a great list to be I want to be on anybody's listen Thank you for all the great infant said best podcast in the universe list. Yeah Thanks for all the great info. Oh you share and for creating a community community where critical thinking is valued. Hey, you're welcome. Didn't we win the podcast awards just the other day? You mentioned best podcast in the universe. Did we win anything? I don't know. They never tell us anything. Do we win or we don't find out? Oh no, no, final. Oh no, it's tonight. Tonight! Oh my God, it's tonight. You know, it's the Adam Curry People's Choice Award.

1:47:26 Did you know that? What? Yes, the podcast- There's an Adam Curry's People's Choice Award? Yes sir. Yes sir. The 16th- Wow. This is Todd. Todd from Blueberry does this. This is the 16th annual People's Choice Podcast Awards. There you go. And there it is right there. The Adam Curry People's Choice Award. That's funny from the guy who doesn't believe in award shows for podcasts. But let me see. Are we nominated? We're not even nominated. It's named after me and we're not nominated. Nowhere. Nope. Let's see, is there something under news? Uh, nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. We suck. Well, I'm going for the Peabody. Which is easier, apparently, than a podcast award. Anyway.

1:48:09 Andrea Hedrick from Normal, Illinois. 333-33 that's our executive producer drive donation amount. In the morning Adam and John thanks to all the dames and knights out there who send out random karma from time to time. It totally works. To show my appreciation can I please get a random karma for anyone who needs it? With this donation, maybe all the 33's will stop invading my life and I can get some peace. Love is lit. Keep doing the work and never change. That's right. It's everywhere. You've got karma. Chris Collins in Walnut Grove, Missouri.

1:48:45 333.33, another executive producer of the special executive producer group. Community. Greetings Adam and John, this amount gets me to knighthood. Henceforth I would like to be known as surrounded by idiots. I thought that was pretty good. Surrounded by idiots. Surrounded by idiots. That is excellent. Yeah, we haven't heard that one yet. Sushi and vodka for me at the roundtable, please. Sorry for the delay. I've been listening since before Obama was elected. That's early early, huh? And I loved the show. Sorry. It took me so long, but I'm here at last my beautiful wife Tammy's birthday tomorrow So, please please put her on the birthday list for eight nine, which I believe she's on. Mm-hmm

1:49:35 I am a long haul truck driver and she's out here with me for eight years now. It's a hard life, but she does it magnificently and makes it worth it. I love you baby, I wouldn't want to do it without you. Thank you for the best podcast in the universe. Smile, taste, kittens, no jingles, no karma. Chris Collins. Why don't you get the next one too and I'll do the longer one. Yes, yeah, this one is coming up that's a little bit much. A dude named Ralph. By the way, I think at the meetup yesterday in Healdsburg, the dude named Ben named Ben was there. And there was another dude named Ben.

1:50:16 Crawling all over the place. So make I think if you name your kid Ben, he's gonna be a dude named Ben. Yeah 333 33 Dear Mimi and John congratulations on your wedding anniversary John and Adam. Thank you for the best podcast in the universe No jingles, no karma dude named Ralph Now you're talking sir wire of the hidden jewel no stranger to executive producership 3330 33 from Escondido, California Please accept, and here he goes, it's numerology. This is beautiful, the value for value model. These numbers are meaningful to him and to us. Please accept 8888 plus 24445 is 33333 in honor of today's wedding anniversaries. We, Dame Jazzy and Sir Wire, also share our wedding anniversary, 8-8, with Mimi and John. We are celebrating our 23rd year, 8-8-98, and they never had a fight.

1:51:12 I am the luckiest dude named Jim on the planet and we have been blessed with our own human resources three children and three grandkids ha 33 he says Thank you, John and Adam for your courage and your brilliant minds both of you are gifted with a skill almost extinct in our country critical thinking Is that our skill? Is that it? Is that our skill? Critical thinking? It's an element. I thought we were just interviewing. It doesn't take much. I thought comedy. I was like, you are very, you are great comedians. That's what I want to hear. Thank you for saving our sanity with the best podcast in the universe. Keep it going, producers. Please send karma to my dame Jazzy with 8-8 smoking hot matriarch and a double jolt for John and Mimi. Get your ham license renewed, John, and I hope Adam got the mo-tu up and running. Yes, I have a report on that later, OTG segment.

1:52:00 Signed Sir Wire of the Hidden Jewel, aka James Pyers, Escondido and Peoria. Please play 33 as the magic number. Human resource, time to stand, time to sit, nutrition is needed now. Do you have any idea what that jingle is? Nutrition? Was there a jingle about that? I have no idea. Time to sit? Time to stand? I really don't know. I think that's the song somebody did. Yeah. It's not a jingle. Okay. Then he wants, just take your medicine slave and you will obey from John. Well, of course we have all that. We, that's the magic number. We, it's the magic number. Just take your medicine.

1:52:49 You will obey. You will obey. You will obey. You've got karma. Good enough for me. Matthew Wilson, 333.33. And he is in Yulee, Florida. I tamjents I believe this donation may reserve a seat for me at the roundtable see accompanying accounting below Would it be possible to be knighted as sir 12,000 miles? Why not I don't know I think so. That's fine. It's okay to me good to me much love and appreciation for all you to do no jingles But in need of some health karma and some serious house buying karma as we are headed into

1:53:37 for a multi-acreage property in Tennessee in the coming weeks. There was, you know, there's here in the Hill Country, it's people are escaping and this, you know, most of the Hill Country, a lot of its vineyards, etc., but there are some parcels and people are putting them up for sale and there was this one, I guess they call it a ranch and they divide it up and so there were five acres, ten acres and twenty acres, you know, maybe there was 10 lots all total this weekend. 750 people stood in line. For what? For the opportunity to look at and buy that land. Was it an auction? No, no, it was just open house, like come on in this weekend, take a look at the property. Really? But in line, John. 750 people. That's outrageous. Fantastic.

1:54:36 Cynthia Schulte, 333333 says, please see email and I have looked for her email. I do not have her email. Do you have her email? I just looked now and there's nothing. Okay, well something went wrong, Cynthia. Remember you can send it to notes at noagendashow.net if all else fails. Sir Tim of the Tunnels, the Baron of the Goat Island. Which I've always wanted to visit. 266, by the way, Goat Island used to be the name for Yerba Buena here in San Francisco. Where is Goat Island? In San Francisco Bay, it's the island that the Bay Bridge goes through. Yeah, I know that one. Used to be Treasure Island. Yes, Treasure Island, that's how I know it, sure. Yeah, well, there's Goat Island. Didn't some techno guy or something start something, wanted to start some community, community, community, Goat Island community?

1:55:34 Maybe I could be wrong. I think it'd be a great place for a casino 266 64 Aloha gents There are probably quite a few donations today, so I'll keep this brief Thank you a happy anniversary to John and now unblock me on Twitter sir Tim of the tunnels a parent of goat Island Unblock that man John I'm blocking even use Twitter anymore. Yeah, yeah well because you don't see anything because you blocked everybody and Maxwell Reeves checks in associate executive producership from Lancaster Pennsylvania I've been there been to Lancaster 200 it's a quite a drive from New Jersey $250 please deduce me

1:56:13 Also, if you could add me on the birthday list for today as I turn 27 as a millennial producer, I will always tune in twice a week to hear what the crackpot and buzzkill have to say. Thanks for creating the best podcast in the universe. Keep up the good work and stay safe out there, John. No jingles, no karma. Maxwell Reeves, Lancaster PA. Another life saved or created, John. Another life saved or created. Shane Hawk in Oceanside, California 250 other associate executive producers my first big boy donation. He says Thanks, John and Adam for everything you do you keep me sane enough for me to land a huge book deal with penguin Random house. Whoa Congratulations get a hold of me you get a blurb I'd like to call out Rana Rinaldo and

1:57:08 And I'm assuming Jesus for being douchebags. Oh, two. Douchebag! Douchebag! Okay. Alright. No, I wonder what the book's about. I wonder what the book is about. I'm very curious. It might be fiction, it might be nonfiction. Very curious. Or it might be a directory, or it could be a... a blank book, one of those joke books. It could be anything. Will Sir Senpai 2333. First off he says, please dedouche me. You've been dedouched. It's been a while since I've put in a solid payment for services, not to mention the barren title has been calling my name. As for this whole mess with sincerely held religious beliefs for workplace vaccine exemptions, I won't get preachy, but listen.

1:57:57 If you're a Christian, bring a Bible into work and point your employer to John 1 verse 12 and ask them, if simply believing in Christ is good enough for God to give us eternal salvation, what more must you provide to your company? That'll shut them up real quick. I bet it will. I bet it will too. Don't let these clowns intimidate you. Bring the fight to them. Catch me on noagendasocial.com. At SirSenpai, S-E-N-P-A-I. Where I will break down everything you need to fight this fight. Karma for all, please. Yes, that's a great service. SirSenpai on noagendasocial.com. You've got karma. Sir William of West Penciltuck- Penciltucky.

1:58:41 233. This is Sir William of West Pensylvania and this is the seed donation for the DC Girl Dame Drive. DC Girl will have her 30th birthday on August 18th and I will match donations between now and August 19th and the August 19th show that are noted as DC Girl Dame Drives. There you go. Nice! That's very kind and DC Girl, congratulations with that. Sir Pate Snakes, 222.22, from the lowlands, from the crime-ridden country of the Netherlands. He says, in the morning, John and Adam, here's my top off. Everyone is also on board with the latest lingo.

1:59:26 Here's my top off to the title of Vi Count and a birthday donation for the 11th. Jingles, healthy news diet, mastodon and the train geek, which I think he means the foamer. Please give me some entrepreneurial goat karma for the value for value pros. Love is lit, Sir Pate, and we thank you as always, Sir Pate. If you wake up with the blues, trying to fill your day with news, there's one thing you must remember, no agenda in the morning. For a healthy balanced news diet try noagendashow.com. Uniquely flavored years for our anniversary. Not only do you get guacamole you also get de-douche You've been de-douche I love you so much the couple who no agendas together stays together, please de-douche my smoking hot babe Matt You've been de-douche Couple of them Both got de-douche

2:00:52 Oh, that was it? Oh. Yeah, could you do this? I'm still bringing up the jingles. Actually, I got it. Sure, I'll do it. I'll do it. Sure Combat Rock of the Idaho Highlands. 202-020-202-02. Sir Combat Brock of the Idaho Highlands. He wants to hold load, you might die, camel a cackle. Almost too good to believe my friends. ITM Adam and John, today's show is special to me as 1371 was my military occupational specialty. 1371 in the Marine Corps, another marine, Semper Fi Marine.

2:01:30 Otherwise known as combat engineers, we are the jack of all trades in the battlefield. We clear mines and obstructions, breach doors and walls, construct combat fortifications and much more. And that's just on weekends. Yeah, during the week is worse. Please include your strongest goat karma as my wife and I are dealing with the stress of selling our home, moving our two kids into RVs on our newly purchased property while we build our dream home. Okay. Oh, this is a reality show in the making, ladies and gentlemen. Oh, beautiful. Where are they? Idaho. Where are they going to?

2:02:14 I don't know, but let's continue. The stress is palpable, yes. No shit. I know a number of people that have attempted what you're trying to do and it just is miserable. They usually wind up killing the children, don't they? No, they kill each other and the children go on on their own and become feral. Feral. Feral. Raised by dogs. Lastly, myself and two douchebags will be in Lockhart, Texas the first weekend of October 1 to 3 for the U.S. Moto GP and Circuit of the Americas. And I want to have a meetup somewhere local to the area. Curry, if you show up,

2:02:51 The O-Ban will be on me. What year? Who cares? I'll drink any O-Ban. He likes the O-Ban. Any producers wanting to help plan the meetup, contact me at Combat Rock. Combat Rock under no agenda social. Well it would have to be a Saturday. The MotoGP is always on a Sunday. I'll try to come of course we have but we have a lot of meetups coming up in the Texas area. I think The the place to be it seems these days is Bernie Everybody's Texas everybody's rave. You know who lives in Bernie Cheryl lad lives in Bernie

2:03:40 I'll tell you the only person I know that successfully built a house under these circumstances where you live in the RV is our Hollywood producer friend. I was just gonna say, how's he doing up there? Did he build the house yet? I think the house is done, but the trick he had, and I hate to tell you this... Yeah, he had $250,000 worth of Airstream. Two of them? Yeah. That's the key. She had her Airstream, he had his Airstream. And they still have a house in Hollywood. So that worked out. Yeah, that's so everybody else gets into big fights because of these situations. So I don't understand why people don't just become executive producers of the No Agenda show. That's when you get brains. It could be. Okay, I had a series of jingles there. I think you've got them. Oh, yes. What do you want here? Whole load of Obama, you might die. Now he says Kamala Kockel, the Kamala Kockel

2:04:40 Does not exist. We have the only cackle we have is Hillary This is really her but I do have Kamala Kamala Harris insane laugh So we'll take that with a twist to go and we're gonna give you the whole load today. You might die Her laugh and the goat was the same Same key. Yeah Now we have Anonymous, Anonymous executive producer, and now he sent several notes, but this is the one he finally wound up with, very short. If the opportunity presents itself and it's appropriate, a mention of the crowdfunding campaign will be great instead of credit. And he's putting a book together, let's see, and you can find it at itsbook.net, I-T-S-B-O-O-K dot net. Let me take a look right now.

2:05:38 Oh, this is... oh, this is Mike Riley's book. Yeah, this is a non- this crazy anonymous producer. Who could that be? Promoting Mike Riley's book. Hold on a second. How does that even work? This is that video. For centuries humankind has combined imagery... And look, it's Darren O'Neill doing the voiceover. ...to explore the profound mysteries of our existence. The book looks... ...cave painting to a cutting edge... The book looks good actually. But I want to wait for your quote. Yeah, it says forever... Book's hilarious. Here's your quote. ...the collective imagination soaring... somewhere here. Where are the blurbs?

2:06:21 Emmy nominated director Nate Cash raved. Just when I thought stupid stuff wasn't any dumber, Mike Reilly showed me what an idiot I was. John C. Devorak calls this a terrific book. Mike Reilly is one of the most creative and inventive humorists of the era. This collection should be on everyone's bookshelf. For a knowledge- You're a great blurb guy. You're my go-to blurb guy. Believe me, my blurbs are top-notch. I took after the master, Alan Watts. Yeah, top-notch for sure. Okay, well it's book.net. Then we have Laurence Pelletier.

2:07:04 I'll get this one because the next one is a long one you might want to read. Did you get an email? Laurent Pelletier. He's somewhere in the United States, probably speaks with a French accent. Sending email to john at Dvorak dot org from... okay I don't know if I got that. I'll see if I can find it. You can keep reading, I'll look for his email. Okay so we move on to the next one from Lindsay Fox from Fort Wisconsin. $200. We're almost there. In the morning Adam and John who knew all we had to do was donate for an associate executive producer credit, 1361 variant factors, de-douche ourselves and request Jobs Karma to fill a position that we've had open at Nolichek's meat since mid-March. Huh? It was that simple. We have a new team member joining our business on Tuesday so another donation is in order. Oh this is the No Agenda Jobs program that she wanted, if I remember Lindsay correctly, she needed to have

2:08:00 People come and work for her. So it was a reverse kind of jobs karma I would like to credit this one to Chad Nolacek for introducing me to the knowage in the nation and all the great conversation that ensues during the many hours we spend together at our family business Nolacek's meats in Thorpe, Wisconsin making the best ham bacon and sausage in the universe We are living the dream and grateful for all the support over the past 69 years And then some jingles, coincidence I think not, the climate gate and some R2D2 karma and winds it up by saying thank you for your courage gentlemen have a fantastic week! Coincidence? I think not! To the gate, to the gate, to the climate gates! You've got karma.

2:08:52 I'm gonna add something to that. By the way, I could not find a note with that exact email anywhere. So I'm sorry. But Nolechek, N-O-L-E-C-H-E-K, which could be pronounced Nolchek, which I would think it might be pronounced Nolchek. It's a good people should look it up and they do a bratwurst and I'm telling you I don't have I'm gonna try their bratwurst they do have a mail system that you can order online you can order some of their stuff they got looks like they have tremendous bratwurst and bacon. Yum.

2:09:32 Wisconsin, bratwurst made in Wisconsin is so alien to any bratwurst you get, you know, in your local butcher shop in Southern California. Or in German Texas. Or any, well the German Texas stuff might be interesting, but the specific brats you get out of Wisconsin are the ones you want. Really? Okay, I'm ordering. They are just dynamite. They have a There's just some quality to them. I first discovered them, I think, in the Milwaukee airport. In the airport they have a brat stand. And I've had other Milwaukee-based brats and they're just superior. I think they're better than even the brats you find in Germany. Don't hold back, man. These brats have got your love, your heart is in the brat. So these guys might be onto something.

2:10:21 Okay, that was her brat man. So we got what one two left? Three left. We got Kevin McColton Keith. I'm sorry. Do you have a note? No, note sent to John you got a note from him. No Geez Sir, Jean. Oh, look at this. I'm gonna look again for the note from Keith good, sir. Jean Duke of Texas My old just sir. Jean the Duke of Texas my old neighbor. I who has been out to the hills to come and visit. He was one of the first ones to stay, stay overnight, we had a good time, went to the museum in Fredericksburg. And he donates $200. This is, I'm very happy to hear Sir Gene back on our list. Let's get some mac and cheese by Ayn Rand. Gig work karma for all the gigsters out there. The Duke of Texas, yes, indeed. Everyone who is doing gig work, consultants, this will help you.

2:11:16 Mac and Cheese by Ayn Rand. You've got karma. Okay, I do have a note from Keith and I thought it was forwarded but I guess it wasn't because he did the right thing. It says donation note on the subject line. Gentlemen, this is Baronette Kmac, who was issued my title change last show along with a put down over my supposed misunderstanding of how to spell my new title. This is the Baronette discussion we had. My note simply said that when I hear Baronette, it makes me think of a little baron because of how the word sounds. Not that it makes me forget how to spell.

2:12:03 So, as I sit here at my dinette adjacent to my kitchenette, reading the local gazette, it dawned on me that this whole thing was likely just a ploy to get me to donate again. Men and good humor, no, please don't just take it that way. I sent him a note back saying yeah, that's exactly what we did. That's how it works. And it worked, there he is. Pay attention, podcasters, you're getting these lessons in real time. Yeah, and they're free. That's right, completely free or value for value, your choice. Alright, then the final one we have is Lorcan Byrne from Dublin, Ireland. Lorcan, $200. In the morning, John and Adam and Mimi and the Unified Producership. I like that, the Unified Producership. I sent a related $200 group donation and I hope to align it with the attached meetup report from the excellent crew who attended the recent Germany meetup in Kaiser's Lountern.

2:13:04 Wow, get around. I hope these are appropriately aligned. Our illustrious colleagues include a Dane anonymous goddess, former douchebag Ryan, and Linux from South Dakota. And God help me, I'm too drunk to remember his name, but he's a great lad from Germany, possibly from Kirchenbolanden. Keep up the good work. Thank you for your courage and please play the trains good planes band jingle. Well, thank you, Lorcan. Lorcan? Lorcan? I'm glad you guys had a good time. Thanks for the report. trains good, planes bad. And then finally, breaking for a night, Sir Humphrey sent a note and he said I'd very much appreciate a mention of the peaceful passing of my mother, Aviva, on Friday. She lived a full and amazing life and just celebrated her 94th. The power of kind thoughts of many thousands should surely whisk her onto the next dimension with great speed and comfort. Her funeral will be on Sunday, show day. Yeah, absolutely.

2:14:04 And I think he sent in a donation as well. So that's it. That's our second of the Associate Executive Producers for Show 1371. I want to thank each and every one of them for making the show possible. Indeed, and you can be proud and display that, this act of love. By claiming your very own executive producer or associate executive producer title and you can do that. Learn all about it by going to our fab website. Dvorak.org slash N-A. Thank you for producing episode 1371 of the No Agenda Show. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Order. Shut up, slaves. Shut up, slaves.

2:15:05 I can do an OTG if if you'd like oh yes, please please please oh, it's not the one I wanted I like this one, too. There we go I was looking at all the companies that are forcing employees to get vaccinated. And so I'm like, I'm gonna boycott as many of these as I can. Amazon is high on the list. I think they're doing it.

2:15:48 But Microsoft too. I'm like, I'm so sick of Microsoft and I'm so sick of them breaking stuff. And I know now they have Windows 11. I don't know if you've been following this. But you can just see this nightmare coming down Broadway when they force... I mean, it's no wonder Microsoft wants to force vaccinations because they force upgrades on everybody all the time. Always forcing it on you and I mean Windows 11 looks just like the fourth layer on top of DOS am I wrong? It's just it's and they got advertising and now they want to sell They don't really want you to have a computer. Just have the have it in the cloud

2:16:27 in your desktop. They're kind of pushing for that. Yeah, they're trying to be Chrome 2. Yes. The second coming of Chrome. Didn't we go through all this? I mean, the thing you got that you locked down was the operating system on most of the computers in the world and now you want to go to Chrome, make your operating system in the cloud a Chromebook? Make everything a Chromebook? Are you nuts? Yeah, I mean, you know, this is... I can see where total cost of was a TCO. I'm telling you, you know, first of all, before we go into this, let's mention that you just did a nice install of mint. Yeah, well, this is what I want to talk about.

2:17:08 This is our once annual conversation and I'll kick it off this time. So I still, you know, it's like, you know, I really want to, because I was using basically the show laptop locked down but still Windows for everything if I wasn't using my Graphene OS de-googled phone, noagendaphone.com. And so I was like, I really want to just be completely free from Microsoft. So I cracked out the old Surface Go. And the Surface Go is, I love it because it's a really small screen. It's very lightweight, very portable, has good battery life. I have the SSD drive. I've got, you know, the max RAM, like 8 megs or whatever you could get in it. And, or 8 gigs, I'm sorry.

2:17:54 But it's kind of slow, it's clunky and it's windows. And so I said, you know, I wonder how Mint is doing. And I was blown away. Not only did it install almost flawlessly, there's one thing on the Surface Go you have to copy one file to make the Wi-Fi function, but that was it. The touchscreen, scrolling on the touchscreen, zooming, all of that works. The controls work. Everything on the thing works and it's at least twice as fast as it was with Windows and it's comfortable because everything is kind of in the same place. It is a seamless transition. And then I got the bug, John.

2:18:32 Now I'm like, I'm gonna do it. I'm going to make the Noah Gen The Show studio run on Linux. And I got very, very close. Because with the new Linux, it's true, I can plug in my Mark of the Unicorn USB device and I get 8 channels in, 8 channels out. That's fantastic. Here's my problem. The way you manage that device is through a web browser. But the device itself doesn't have a little web server in there. No. When you plug it, when you install the software, it installs a little web server on your Windows machine and that's what you're talking to. So I've been trying, you know, are you familiar with Wine? Very familiar with Wine. Yeah, so Wine has gotten pretty good and I can get... Wine is good enough now that you can run Photoshop on a Linux box. Right, so

2:19:28 I'm trying to get that little server up and running with wine and I've got it to the point where it actually it has it opens up the port and and you can make a connection but it just sits there doesn't get anything so something is stuck some permission but if I can do that if I can just you have we have at least a thousand Linux nuts that listen to the show. Yeah. I mean that and one of them will be happy to help you. Well, that's why I bring it up because they already found out, already worked on the mixer that I use. That works in wine. Perfect. No problem. So I could become this whole show could be for the first time a live podcast like that with all the processing could be run on Linux. I'm very excited about it.

2:20:16 Anyway, well, I'd like to see that happen. That's good. Yeah, and you know, you know what we do then we make it a distro Oh a podcasting distro make it the no agenda podcasting distro and then you can download it legal with the with yes, of course, of course It's fantastic. Now the thing I want to talk about briefly is Apple scanning emails for Child pornography you followed the story and I'm unfamiliar with what you're about to discuss. Apple announced that, let me see if I can get a line from the... Okay, so Apple announced that it is going to... Now, the way it was announced, and then there's a technical bit. They announced that they are going to scan every single iMessage, and I think

2:21:07 email as well, but let's just, if not email, it's certainly coming, but iMessage for child pornography photos. So whether you are sending one or receiving one, that's going to be scanned and then they will take action. Now that by itself is, you know, it's a very difficult thing to announce if you're in the Apple PR department and you have to explain exactly what you're doing. Because the way they're doing it is even more interesting. There is the CSAM

2:21:43 database, CSAM, which is a child something, I forget what it's called. It's a Silicon Valley database and all the social networks and I'm sure Google all contribute to it and what they've done is they've, so they've decided all these images and what images are out there that are deemed child pornography and they hash that entire database. So the idea is that Apple won't actually be looking at, because you know when you send an iMessage, your message and the image is encrypted. So they, while Apple can't necessarily decrypt it,

2:22:21 They can run a hash on it, and if the hash, and the way a hash works is, I'll just try and explain it simply, if you have a file you can run a hash program, it spits back a long character string, and that will be unique for every single version of that photo as long as it hasn't been altered. I think even... Yeah, it's similar to a virus signature. Yes. And so that's how they're going to do it. So what they're saying is, well, don't worry about it because we actually can't see it. We're not looking at anything else you're doing. We're just scanning for these hashes. But oh man, did they just, they pulled up the drawbridge and they filled up the moat with this one. Now you're locked in. Now you're gonna see what's gonna happen. Why wouldn't, I mean, the government now participates in this.

2:23:14 in the CSAM database. So, why wouldn't it? First of all, you can send something nasty to somebody and it'll get scanned and they'll get flagged. So, it can be outside of your own purview if someone sent you something. But maybe they just throw some leaked documents or stuff that, you know, just throw something else in there, hash it and see if someone's passing around documents that have the same hash. I mean, this could be abused for any number of things. A tool in the behavioral scientist toolbox.

2:23:50 There you go, it's the theme of the show. So I think that this is very disappointing that Apple has decided to go this way. But to me, it just solidifies, that's it. We're done. If you want to be a good doobie, go with Apple. But be careful, because what you think is bad today, which is child pornography, it can be something else tomorrow. Could be anti-government rhetoric. That's just a foot in the door. Yeah. But you know, especially this... That's how you do it. And how about gay adults? You know, if you're... I mean, is every single dick pic hashed if it's offensive? You know, I mean, it could be a whole bunch of things. It just seems like... what do they call it? The slippery slope. Yeah. Well, obviously everything's a slippery slope nowadays.

2:24:48 Yeah, they're just trying to... And you know what's next? Well, how come you're running Linux? What are you hiding? Yeah. Yeah, it can happen. Oh, no. It's... as I sit here, it's going to happen. It's going to happen. Yeah, what are you running Linux for? What's the point? What's your problem? What's wrong with you? Windows is fine. Yeah, why are you doing that? Why are you doing that? So that's... Don't you do, Mr. Curry, don't you do a segment on this, what is this, a podcast, No Agenda show, on Off the Grid, telling people how to avoid being monitored? Because what are you doing wrong? What sin are you committing that you're so fearful that you have to be doing this segment week after week? Do you do it weekly or monthly? I don't know how often this show runs, but you probably do it daily. What do you do? It seems to me that you're awfully suspicious.

2:25:43 These are the questions that are going to come. Absolutely. The way we're headed, absolutely. Welcome to China. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. The way we're headed, it's not good. I'm very pleased to see people standing up. You know, and this is, I have to play this report. Jeff Begay's, I mean, he got so excited during this during this report about the January 6 Wildman. The Wildman pleaded guilty, so now they have two people. And by the way, the Wildman is- The guy they locked up in solitary confinement for a couple of months? No, I think- Pleaded guilty? Huh, what a shocker. Right. Now there is video of him beating up on cops, so you know, yeah, that's a problem. He took the plea deal for, I think, obvious reasons. Didn't want to go through some drawn-out process, but

2:26:33 I think, journalistically, I would like to say that I think it is wrong for any journalist to just blatantly call these people insurrectionists or to call January 6th the insurrection because that's what a you know, some kind of commission or committee would be able to determine, but it's such a fait accompli. It's just like, that's it. It was an insurrection. It's now, you know, January 6th, Bill Maher. It's up there with 9-11. I'll never forget it. This is mind control. This is mind control. And I think it's journalistically wrong, unless you disagree that journalists can just blatantly call it the insurrection.

2:27:19 No, technically you would never be able to do that and you never should be able to do that but there's some new things coming down. I don't have clips but a couple of the publications at CNN I think started it where it's now supposedly okay for journalists to be opinionated in their reporting not in their opinion pieces. In their reporting? Yeah, and they're reporting this will be coming up in a future show. We'll have some discussion. Wow. It's sick You know before I play that Jim I always thought Jeff Pagase is pretty straightened You know he was told to do this their style guides in these In all these journalists supposed these news organizations. I have a news well. Let me play the big ace

2:28:08 Yeah, just see, because he gets so excited that, I mean, he is really pinching out that last loaf at the end, man. It's like the guy is just, he's good to go. On January 6th, Scott Fairlamb, seen here in camouflage, was right in the middle of the mob that attacked the Capitol. We f***ing did something, and then we stormed the f***ing Capitol! I f***ing Verbally assaulting Capitol officers. Then striking one on his helmet. Errol Lamb would later claim that he didn't assault officers, that he was trying to help them.

2:28:45 Investigators allege that Fairlame is a brawler by nature. They highlight his days as a mixed martial arts fighter whose nickname and the so-called ring of combat was wild man. To date investigators have arrested more than 550 people involved in the insurrection. including an increasing number of suspects who assaulted officers. Thayer Lamb, along with 28-year-old Devlin Thompson from Seattle, Washington, who also pleaded guilty today, are now the first two rioters to plead guilty to assaulting police on January 6th. Legal analyst Harry Litman. And you're going to see from here on in not just other perpetrators of violence, but they are going to be making their move

2:29:27 the ladder toward the actual co-conspirators who plotted this and came to do violence. Jeff, go ahead man, good job. You need to get that one out. So there it is, the insurrection And of course this is more mainstream media, mind-shaping. The only videos you'll ever see of this is that, you know, is the violence. Of course there was violence. People need to be punished for violence. But that you just can't call it an insurrection. I agree.

2:30:05 Just now one guy had a gun, no guns. It's kind of an insurrectionism, what? No guns? Yeah, it's irksome. I mean, you go to an Antifa thing, they got machetes. I saw this morning, there was like some religious group was doing a prayer outside in the park with, you know, a little PA set up and they're all social distance and all, you know, they're doing their thing. A bunch of these Antifa guys show up, and gals, and they just start getting in everyone's face and breaking the PA system. What is going on with these? This Antifa or the LARPing kids in black, that's a problem. Yeah, something's got to be done. So I picked up, I was watching the Ken Burns documentary on Hemingway.

2:30:57 It's a three-parter. And everybody should watch it. It's very interesting. But Hemingway was definitely probably undiagnosed bipolar. He was a nutcase. He treated his women very poorly. but he was also a womanizer and he had had so many traumatic head injuries that he had to suffer from the same disease that's a lot of football players suffer from where they you have this that's called TCE or something. TBI, traumatic brain injury. Yeah and so this was definitely the case with him especially after his two

2:31:34 two in a row concussions and head injuries after two airplane crashes in a row. That's a day wrecker, man. You got two. In Africa, the second one it turned out not only gave him a bad concussion, but also cracked his skull. Damn. So this guy was a wreck by the time he took a shotgun and shot himself in the head because he had issues. He had issues. And so I have a clip of just a summary of a couple of his things. This is the Hemingway backdrop. This is from the PBS report. And there's just a few of the little elements. And I have a few more to add before we play the media report of his death. Psychotic depression.

2:32:19 He began again to speak of killing himself, but refused to go to a psychiatric hospital. He wanted it hidden. He wouldn't go to any kind of psychiatric place, which would have been a better place. He went to the male clinic. The story went out that he was there getting treated for high blood pressure. He registered under an assumed name because he said he didn't want the world to think I was losing my marbles. But soon, he had a sign hung on his door saying, Former Writer. Do not disturb. Hemingway's doctors repeatedly administered the standard treatment for severe depression. Electroshock therapy. ECT.

2:33:04 You could see the impulse to treat him with shock therapy, which is a great therapy if all you have is major depression with psychotic features. Certainly he had depression, certainly he had psychosis, but they were just manifestations of a larger illness. Hemingway had also survived several concussions, which may have permanently injured his brain, altering his personality and corrupting his reasoning. Oh man, what a mess. So he had like, at least three rounds, maybe more of electroshock therapy which can't be good for you, especially if you're a creative type. So he had all these issues and so he finally couldn't take it anymore. And this is kind of against the narrative that I remember hearing when I was a kid when they finally discovered he shot himself. That was not the original report though, the news media just pretty much made up a report and I want to play that.

2:33:59 But let me say first that when I was a kid, I heard that he was just, he lost some of his virility or something. He was like a man. It was a typical classic. Oh, he's, you know, he was a toxic male and he couldn't do what he wanted to do so he killed himself. He's a loser. But the more interesting thing is in this particular documentary, for one thing, they blamed alcohol probably more than they should. which is typical, and then you had the report that came from one of the great news readers of the era, Ed Newman, with his beautiful, malefluous voice, and I have some theories about this voice and the way news was presented back in the day. And this is 1961, this is before the... This is BC, before Curry.

2:34:51 This is before CIA, according to Ron Paul, took over the country. But already the news media was no good. And if you listen to this report, you get nothing. You don't know Jack and they make up how he died. Listen to this death report. Good evening. The novelist Ernest Hemingway is dead. The reports from his home in Ketchum, Idaho are sparse and not very clear, but we know that he killed himself, the sheriff says accidentally, with a 12-gauge shotgun. Hemingway only last week was discharged from the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota where he had been treated for high blood pressure. This morning, the Nobel Prize winning novelist was alone in his room preparing to go hunting when the fatal accident occurred. Oh, he was cleaning his shotgun and it went off. Wow, that's... okay, so that is...

2:35:46 And that is the majority of elites in power still today. Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, who are some old Republicans. There's a shitload of them. That's the era they're from. And you made up a PR release, a news release that went out on the wire, on the transom. And then you did maybe a little interview with CBS for the evening news. And that was it. And it was the truth. And it was good. And we liked it that way. And it was bullshit. It was the same thing with it during the whole Kennedy era when he was, you know, apparently had said apparently twice now. Okay. He had a he had a

2:36:30 different kinds of places where he could go and shack up with different women. It was not none of it was reported but everybody knew about it. And the same with this, everyone seemed to know what was really going on but they're not gonna report it, they're just gonna read from the press release. And the news media, that's all they've been doing. And so I started thinking about this. When TV news came in and it took over from the newspapers, everyone already Always knew that they just stole from the New York Times and a couple of these other papers and they put these reports together and they made up mate You know, right just read there's news readers called tear and read or something. They had a term for it and But I think these definitive male voices like Ed Newman's was very just Walter Cronkite they had these these voices that were just authoritative Tom Brokaw

2:37:20 Tom Brokaw started breaking the authoritativeness because he had that strange speech impediment. But it sounded authoritative somehow regardless. It managed to, yes. It's like these British women who report on the royals, they always have this weird lisp. I started listening to some of these things on PBS. There's this strange upper-class lisp. You know who had a surprising lisp? I may have told you this. Steve Jobs. Yeah, Steve Jobs did have a lisp. Very... you wouldn't notice it unless you're face-to-face talking with him. It's very apparent.

2:38:00 When he was relaxed maybe. Well anyway the point is is that we're moving away from those voices because we've gone to a more casual style of presentation. Have we now? And I think it's creating cracks in the fortifications and people are starting to get suspicious because Just hearing some squeaky ass guy who's typical now Is enough to make you think well, maybe this guy's full of crap well yes and no because we still have this The new style, which we even heard earlier of the the Hummer and I think that is taken very seriously example You know, obviously I read I read the New York Times like all day long mainly on my iPad app That's seen as authoritative is it no, of course not but it gets your attention because you want to just

2:39:00 tear your ears off your skull when you hear that. But I wanted to point out two things. One is the authoritative voice which is disappearing because nobody wants to hire a guy like that anymore. I mean the last one is probably Darren O'Neill. Oh yeah. And so you don't want that anymore and I think it's a big mistake. And the second thing I wanted to point out, this was 1961. You just crushed Darren O'Neill and just stepped over the corpse in three seconds. No I didn't. He's got an authoritative voice. Yeah but no one wants to hire him you just said. Well no one wants to hire him anyway. I'm sorry, 1961. 1961.

2:39:43 And I'm sorry, Darren, everyone wants to hire you. It's just that you're in an area where nobody hires anybody. You're in a wasteland. You're in LA, you'll get a job. This jockey wasteland. So this predates everything. And it probably, in other words, the And it may go back to yellow journalism, which was highly criticized during the 30s. The mainstream news media, what we're doing on this show, we could have been doing it 40 years ago. And I think that IF Stone was doing it with a newsletter and George Seldes was doing it with a newsletter.

2:40:20 Wasn't a podcast, but it's similar. But in order to deconstruct it we would have to you know sit in an office with naked bulbs and green visors on the phone talking to sources with a notepad We'd have the tools now man. That's that's what you mugs get on the phone. That's what somebody listen in on this call Oh my god Yes, yes, yes all these things all gone all history no one knows what it is anymore No one knows. But the point is is the BS has been there and it's still there and we're just there's nothing and it's and it's point is this is nothing new. No except the CIA is just has experience now and then you add in a fresh dose of behavioral scientists whip it up in a social media stew and you're good to go. That's how it's that's how it's working. You get your way.

2:41:16 Yeah, yeah, especially the feedback loop with the cable news. It's really fantastic. Now, and you know everything again being used for political means and they're really doing everything they can with DeSantis, Governor DeSantis of Florida. There was the president and he are going back and forth trading barbs and And here's an ABC World News Tonight report. Florida has more kids hospitalized with COVID than any other state in the country, but the governor today doubling down on his ban of mask mandates in schools. What are the harmful effects of putting a kindergartner in a mask for seven hours? Have they talked about the emotional, the academic, the physiological? President Biden this week

2:42:00 criticizing states for banning mask mandates. The governor firing back saying, I'm not going anywhere. Our Stephanie Ramos today pressing the White House on DeSantis's comments. We refer to the president as a power hungry tyrant. What is your response to the governor and administration's response to the governor? Today the White House pointing to Florida's COVID numbers. That 25% of hospitalizations in the country are in Florida. It is also a fact that the governor has taken steps that are counter to public health recommendations. Late today, the president asked about the Florida governor. Governor who? And he said, governor who? That's real. That's that's the best insult you can do. Who? I don't know that guy. Never heard of him.

2:42:46 Which people always use. I loved it when I was first, I didn't love it, when I was first on TV in the Netherlands and it was, you had to understand half the country watched, there were only two channels on of TV so there's no other place for them to go. You're still famous there. Yeah, because of it. And when, you know, so I was very highly recognizable and you know there would be a waiter or someone in a shop and then you know they'd be giving me change and then just say, Just so you know, I don't know who you are, I don't watch TV. That's the kind of stupid shit people will say. And that's kind of similar, it reminded me of that. The Netherlands. So as I'm reading about... Crime-ridden, you know. Yes. Wait, I had something about the crime-ridden country of the Netherlands.

2:43:36 Yes, where is it here? That the Netherlands is now one of the top vaccine manufacturing countries. That was a headline in Dutch newspaper. How did that happen? Well, when you know first of all that, you know those contracts that Pfizer was sending out that got leaked, so you know with all the different countries. So the company that is actually doing that is Pfizer Export BV. And the BV is a Dutch company structure. And so what they're doing is they're exporting and they're selling through the old Dutch-Irish reach around rusty trombone. And so they pay almost no income taxes because they're considering the sale to be royalties, just like a record or a movie.

2:44:34 That's why the Rolling Stones have five huge homes on one canal and it's all their royalties and their licensing. So anyway, it makes total sense to me. The Netherlands is the crime-ridden drug capital of the world. You want ecstasy? All those pills with the Flintstones, it's all the Netherlands. So now they're just doing their extra bit for globalism. Huzzah! Stay safe. So, anyways, I'm reading about coercion and government mind control and creating this mass hysteria. The one thing that seems to have worked throughout history with any truly authoritarian government

2:45:20 is in fact exactly what the Democrats and the media did to Trump, is ridicule. Ridicule seems to really have an effect, and of course we have a lot of great ridicule now online with memes, and as I think about it, you know, it's like, we're kind of doing that. We ridicule people, certainly figures of authority. The No Agenda Ridicule Show. Yeah, and you know our favorite way is to take something, you know, change their names. So we've got Watermelon Head Kerry, you know, we've got... well we were first with Pocahontas years before Trump. Yes, we initiated Pocahontas. And so I got a clip here one of our producers sent in about Ron DeSantis. You know,

2:46:07 I think we need to be fair to everybody. We should ridicule everybody whenever we can because DeSantis also has his flaws. Go take a look at the actual no mandatory vaccine law that he signed. Seems pretty possible for it to become mandatory. So we caught this. Florida accounts for more than 21% of all new Delta variant cases in the country. And while state health officials say students returning to the classroom should wear masks, Governor Randy Santis says school districts cannot require them. Did you hear it? No, I missed it. You should have told me there was going to be a switcheroo in here. Well, this is one of our producers did a John C. Dvorak mix. Florida accounts for more than 21% of all new Delta variant cases in the country and while state health officials say students returning to the classroom should wear masks, Governor Randy Santas says school districts cannot require them. Randy. He's now Randy Santas.

2:47:09 I like Randy. I liked it a lot. I thought Randy Santas. That's good. We need to keep that up Yes, finally a report a report Horrible report about dr. Fauci's agency as the agency used $424,455 in taxpayer dollars, this is a headline, to support University of Georgia researchers who performed experimental drug tests on 28 beagles after infecting them with parasites. Documents obtained by the white coat

2:47:51 Waste projects show that some of the dogs quote vocalized in pain upon being injected with an experimental vaccine The Beagles were reportedly set to be euthanized in June, but it's unclear whether that happened Newsweek reported the experiments were related to disease called lymphatic filler of filar aces and the vaccine in question had already been tested on other animals So, you know if you want it this this is the key If you want to get people riled up, this is the story you need. So here's the headline, which I thought was good. Peek into Fauci's closet reveals horrific experiments on beagles. Tests left dogs in obvious pain. This is the stuff we need to be putting out in headlines. And it's sad. Beagles. Why not take a useless dog? If we have to test on dogs anyway, and why do we have to test on dogs? Are they cheap?

2:48:53 No, it's because you want to torture the dogs. You're sick. I hope somebody weighs in on that. I've been following this infrastructure bill here in the United States. There's a big to-do about we're gonna fix bridges and roads and we're gonna fix nothing. But we're gonna... We're fixing nothing. Coming with an infrastructure and jobs act. We're gonna fix the gender studies programs and make sure all the universities have it. Well, and so I want to talk about this for a second because there's two things that are on deck and

2:49:32 and one is a three and a half trillion dollar reconciliation bill. And what's in there, you don't hear any reports on it. Have you heard any reports of what's actually in the three and a half trillion dollar bill? Every so often if Rand Paul shows up on a talk show he starts listing them. He's the last bastion of guys who list the stupidities that are written into these laws. So instead... These bills So, well, that's over there and it's like one of these bills almost like at the end of the year where both Republicans and Democrats go, well, I mean, we have to, I mean, this is the, this is bipartisan reconciliate, whatever. I don't even know, reconciliation bill? Does that mean like we were pissed off all year long, now everyone's going to lump their shit into one thing. Everyone kind of gets the same amount of pork and benefits and whatever crazy is in there. And we won't really talk about it because we're just going to agree we won't discuss it. Isn't, is that kind of what a reconciliation bill is?

2:50:32 No, a reconciliation bill is a technicality, a way to pass a bill without having to worry about the 60 vote in the Senate. It's just some technical way of getting a bill through. So it's great marketing because it fooled me. All right, so there's that. No one talks about it. First rule of reconciliation is we don't talk about reconciliation. So then we have the infrastructure bill. And it is my belief that this is not intended to pass, that they're making this big, deal and all the Republicans do want this and we're coming to the table and we grew it by half a billion now it's a trillion. It's virtue, it's a form of virtue signaling by the by this guy so they can run on it when they go back home. I don't think yeah oh yeah they'll run on that but I think that it's I don't think it's going to pass I think they're doing and the reason why is there's the shit that's in this bill is crazy.

2:51:25 I mean, this is the way, and I think it's in there purposefully. Do you recall right way back when we were expecting a one billion dollar, it was like one billion dollars or a couple billion dollars that was going to be needed for, you know, nothing. And then of course, you know, oh, we need a lot more. And then the Democrats had some bill that was you know, trillions of dollars had all the crazy shit in there, including central bank digital currency. It had, you know, all the woke agenda, all that stuff in there. And that was also clearly not intended to pass. It was just signaling what they were doing and then the actual legislative, the actual bill wound up being something completely different. I think this is the same thing. Because when they put in there,

2:52:10 We'd have more surveillance systems on the streets, surveillance systems in your car. By the way, your NOAA Agenda Show has been talking about this for 14 years. Remember when we first started talking about the ODBS interface and all the spying that started to crop up in the new cars before 2010? Yeah, I had this thesis that even when you get your car smogged, eventually it'll be smogged and then ticketed. And what did we say? Back in the day we said, oh you watch, your insurance will depend on it. Well we're already there. Except now it's just have the app in the car, which is perfectly fine, another way to track. They're talking about breathalyzers in cars. So this is all crazy shit. Yeah, the breathalyzer in the car is a bit much. And it's in the bill, you're right. And I was watching a Commonwealth Club thing that was just recent with some dits that was the head of it.

2:53:02 talking to all these experts on transportation in California and they basically want to put just tracking devices in the car so they can charge you because with electric cars taking over in California supposedly by 2050 or whenever it is, they can't get gas taxes anymore. This is a big problem with somebody even wrote in, I think one of our, I think Foley. wrote in mentioning about that what are you gonna do they have to taxes you know you do billions and billions of dollars in gas taxes gasoline taxes are gonna be lost so they have a use tax they want to do and they're gonna they were wanting that forever they were wanting it forever do it in the way they want to do it it seems to me it's with all the electric charging stations they'll know exactly where you know you're charged up no no Wi-Fi as you drive by yeah 5g

2:53:52 Yeah, 5G. You got your car all geared up for this. You drive by and a random station says, oh, look at this guy. He apparently last week he went too fast and he was in a 65 mile an hour zone and he went to 70. We're giving him a ticket. Pull over citizen. We have a warrant for your arrest. Pull over citizen. We will stop your car automatically, citizen. Under the one... And then there's that. It's called the Strengthening Mobility and Revolutionizing Transportation Initiative. States and urban planners... Now this is only for testing. Testing. Yet. Today. We'll be testing how data gathering devices and new vehicles can improve transportation efficiency and safety. The bill sponsors are...

2:54:42 This is the self-driving corridor that you picked up on the other day. Yeah, it's perfect. That's what this is. That's why they're talking about it. You're being checked out everywhere along the line. And everyone gets the same ugly-ass General Motors bumper car. It's basically just a box and it has rubber on the sides. And screw Elon Musk, you just drive onto the self-driving tunnel, the path, and just like in an amusement park. You just bump against the sides as you go to work. I'm telling you, what a great solution. Elon Musk is stupid. He should take that boring... I still think Elon Musk is behind a lot of this. You know, he's now threatening to bore a tunnel from the airport to downtown Austin.

2:55:38 Well, you know, Texas is interesting in that regard. You know, we, Texas has got a chalk base in most of the state that is very easy to drill tunnels into. Yeah, I know. Everyone's calling a wimp. So go find something hard to do. They had the super collider in Texas, if you recall. No, I didn't know that. a massive underground tunnel. What was bigger than CERN? Where was it? Where was the supercollider? It's around Rocket, Texas if you go know where Rocket is. It's this huge tunnel and it was being built by... I actually visited it. Well they never built it apparently. No, they built most of it.

2:56:26 And it was the way they were going as fast as they could and I was told by one of the super... Waxahachie, Waxahachie, Texas. Yeah, I have a hat, a Super Collider hat they gave me, which I should auction off. So they had that ring just like they have for CERN in Switzerland. It's a big giant ring, it was under Texas, it was gonna produce a massive amount of jobs and everything else. And it was put down there by, or started by Bush, a Texan, and he knew about the subsoil there that was just this chalk you could just like easy to drill. So they could drill this big giant round hole or a circular hole. And as soon as Clinton got in office,

2:57:04 And I was told this, you know, before, I think I visited there while Bush was still president. I was told that they were drilling as fast as they can because once you get, you can't, you know, once you're over half pregnant, they can't stop the funding. They were fearful that if Bush got out, and it was Bush one, Bush got out, they would never be able to complete it. They never get, and he was right. He was correct. He walked in and just discontinued the whole thing. Wow, this is very interesting. I never knew it was the superconducting supercollider. Yeah, it was a dynamite project. Well, the reason was there but it's dead. Well, it's obvious what so yeah, so the large Hadron Collider in CERN is really the one that took over. But the reason why they couldn't do this in Texas, I mean, or just in general, it was too early. The Stargate was supposed to be opened by Obama, not by Bush. No, no, no, I can't have that.

2:58:00 So anyway, so what all, and here's, I think, I'm not, we can take this clue either way. So what we know about the infrastructure bill and the reconciliation bill is that Joe Biden said early on, yeah, yeah, we have to have both. I'm not going to pass just one. Nancy Pelosi reiterated, no, no, no, we're not going to pass it all. So I think that one of the two is going to have to fail to get a pass, to get a bill passed. Yeah, you're probably right. And if I know politicians... Maybe that's why they're posturing so much, because they don't want it to pass either. Because if I know politicians, they will all, no matter what it is, they'll go for the $3.5 trillion over $1.5 trillion.

2:58:43 But they can't pass at the same time and I just had, and when I heard this I'm like, okay, this either solidifies it or could solidify the exact opposite depending how you look at it. But again, three and a half trillion versus one and a half trillion. Here's Nancy. No, I said very clearly, this is build back better. The president has said he has a vision. And we share that vision. And it's about building back better. So whatever you can achieve in a bipartisan way, bravo. We salute it, we applaud it, we hope that it will pass soon. But at the same time, we're not going forward with leaving people behind. And that's why the physical infrastructure of our country gets a D from the, a D in some places, a C minus in others for

2:59:35 from the American Society of Civil Engineers. So we have to, it's a safety issue as well as an economic issue to create jobs. But we cannot be in the past. We have to go into the future, if you build back better, to build not only the physical infrastructure, but the personal infrastructure, so that you build back better with women. You have child care, you have, and men, dads need the child care too, but overwhelmingly, women more in the workplace with a home healthcare workers respected so that people can leave home because they're a family member, whether a person with a disability, child or older person is cared for. Whether it's early, universal pre-K, which I love, which is family and medical leave. Universal pre-K, which I love. Okay, so this woman is now insane. I believe, by the way, I think that's a wig she's wearing.

3:00:40 I'm sorry. Oh, yeah, of course it is. Can you imagine what her hair looks like? But it was her hair had slipped back on her head. So you saw this like a little bit of Flassy hair, but and then it was almost bald behind it and then her hair started. Yeah, she's bald bald Nancy That's what the bald bald Nancy. All right. Hold on. I gotta keep track of this bald Nancy now the way I understood it is She, the infrastructure bill is just, yeah that's important, but what's really important is build back better. To me it sounded like the three and a half trillion dollar bill is the build back better bill, not the infrastructure bill.

3:01:25 I'm sure it is, but that's not gonna go anywhere. I want to patch back better. We get these potholes. We don't need to build back better. We need to patch back better. No, no. They need a complete campaign from the Curry Dvorak Consulting Group, which coincidentally comes with its own jingle package. For a better life beyond your freedom, build back better for someone else. That thing would be in the pocket, man. Roll that stuff out, roll that out on radio, podcast, everywhere. Yeah, well... People will be all into it, all into it. We'd be cook... we'd be... we'd be the cat's ass. The cat's ass? That's an old phrase, I'm sorry I used it. So let's go at least play a little bit of Cuomo so we can keep up with him. Yes, yes, this is uh... yeah... I got two clips. Killing grannies and smacking fannies.

3:02:26 You used that earlier. That was my opening of the show, yes. COVID, let's go with the COVID, finish up with COVID and it drives us right to Cuomo and then I can play the Cuomo clip. COVID to Cuomo, okay. The New York Times reports the Food and Drug Administration is moving towards fully approving the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine by September. Meanwhile, former President Barack Obama has announced plans to significantly scale down his 60th birthday bash this weekend at the family's $12 million estate in Martha's Vineyard due to the spread of the Delta variant.

3:03:04 President Biden and the entire Democratic congressional delegation of New York is calling on New York Governor Andrew Cuomo to resign after an independent investigation concluded Cuomo had violated state and federal law by sexually harassing 11 women, including nine current or former government employees. On Tuesday, New York State Attorney General Letitia James released her 165-page report after conducting a five-month probe. The independence investigation found that Governor Cuomo sexually harassed multiple women, many of whom were young women, by engaging in unwanted groping, kisses, hugging.

3:03:47 and by making inappropriate comments. On Tuesday, Governor Cuomo defended himself against the allegations and rejected calls to resign. Members of the New York State Assembly are now moving ahead with plans to draft articles of impeachment. The governors of New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Connecticut and Rhode Island also issued a joint statement calling for Cuomo to resign. Wow. He's not going, though. I don't think he's dug his heels in. Yeah, this is great. Now, does he have power? Does he have power? Actually, once the impeachment process begins, the state, the attorney general, I think, no, not the attorney general, the other one, the lieutenant governor, once impeachment begins, the lieutenant governor immediately takes over. Right, but does he, yes, okay. But does he have the juice? Does he have the back room juice?

3:04:42 It's, I mean he thinks he does, so we'll find out. But let's, here's the current, the latest, this is from NPR, the Cuomo report, they're going after him for criminal. The Albany County Sheriff is promising a comprehensive investigation into whether New York Governor Andrew Cuomo committed a crime. Sheriff Craig Appel says his office received a complaint this week against the governor that was sexual in nature. Right now I would say that our investigation is involving criminal conduct. I believe that the Attorney General was given, their investigative powers were steered more towards civil investigation. Our investigation is more towards a criminal investigation. The New York Attorney General's Office has released a report detailing several allegations of sexual misconduct. Cuomo has denied any wrongdoing.

3:05:32 Man, they really want him out. Yeah, something's up. And so also Chris Cuomo, his brother, Fredo... He went on a long planned vacation. Well, Fredo was caught writing press releases with the team, the team emergency response team. Isn't that an old story? I thought we knew that like a couple months ago. Maybe it's the same story. I think it's... A plant. It may be. It may be an old story, but it's been cropping up a lot more since Cuomo has been in the mess that he's in. And so Chris is a conflict of interest in every way for him as a journalist, rewriting press releases that he would be the one reading. But he doesn't report it on his brother at all on his own show. He's done.

3:06:24 I hope. No, he's not done. Oh no. They gotta get Zucker out of there. Not gonna happen. CNN is a tainted operation. It is in the crapper. Yeah, it's still a tremendous asset for AT&T. They don't own CNN. AT&T is owned by Time Warner. Right, so Time Warner owns CNN. Yeah, right. But I thought AT&T first AT&T owns MSNBC. Oh, that's on. Oh, you're right. You're right. I'm sorry. MSNBC is owned by Comcast. Yeah, no, I'm talking to you. I get I get them. I get them mixed up with AT&T. I'm sorry. I think that's that's what I think Zucker. I think in a weird way, he's looking for the AT&T spot.

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3:18:19 One of the most successful programs we do absolutely nothing for is the No Agenda Meetups. It's a fantastic part of the whole package, which was, as you know, everything's produced by the producers. So are the meetups. We have a producer run noagendameetups.com site where you can schedule them and people love telling us how the meetups were. So we kick it off today. We go to to Red3333, the SunBoston Noah Jenner meetup. Coming live from Massachusetts.

3:19:02 Hey! What's going on everybody? Brandon, get ready for lockdown 2. Hee hee hee! Gretchen, first timer. Thank you. Sir Brent Mahoney, in the morning. Sir Paul, thank you for your courage. Sir Carris, Viscount of Greater Boston. Dr. Boom, I'm not the spook. Adam and John, this is Sir Nathan Lee Miller Foster. I want to say that this is a one in 100 year event. You just got to accept it. the new world order. We are eternal souls in these vessels and the only thing that can ever defeat us is to be afraid. So fear no death, fear no evil and thank you to NOAGENDA for making that possible. It's such an uplifting these meetups. Just the greatest topics are discussed. Fear no evil, do not fear fear. Love it. Let's go to Peterborough, Ontario, Canada.

3:19:47 Hey, Animajohn, it's Sir Richard, Knight of the Coerthas, here in beautiful Peterborough, Ontario, Canada. We are having a lovely time with our No Agenda Meetup. Hey, it's Baron Chris of the Coertha Highlands, Knight of the Rare Encounter. Hey, it's Paul from Pickering. I just want to say, John, could you turn your speakers down? And thanks, guys. Appreciate everything you do. Sir Molten Cheese here. Shout out to yesterday's Toronto Meetup crew and the Pittsburgh Meetup crew. This is Joe Connor. I can't remember if it was the Ontario meetup group but someone posted a group picture on no agenda social and we're like this camp they mean these were good-looking people I wonder if that was if that was the one we do have one more report this is the local 76 their cherry Street pier meetup

3:20:43 What's shakin', Gitmo Nation, this is Sean here in Philly on the Delaware River, Cherry Street Pier with the gang. Having a great time, successful meetup, everybody's happy, the weather's killer. Hey, this is Dorian, pronoun he, him. You might remember me from my website, Dorianisawesome. This is Jason reporting from Delaware River and No Agenda Nation. Hi guys! This is Lynn, future lady of the Philadelphia Badlands. Bye! Hey guys, this is Mike from Mount Laurel. Adam, I'm a brother with Tourette's syndrome, so I could understand what you deal with sometimes. Hey, this is Josh from Elkton, Maryland. John, can you stop clicking your pen? This is Mami Papa. So, house karma works, so anyone that's curious about it should definitely give it a shot.

3:21:33 Hey, Umami Mama here, checking in. Hey, it's Jeremy from Chester County. Keep doing your thing, guys. Hey, John and Adam love your show. This is Cheryl. Hey, this is Marissa, the proud mama of a dude named Ben. Hey, this is Steven from Phoenixville, and John, turn your speakers down. I don't know. These reports are so interesting. That sounded out of phase to me. It was really odd. I love it though. The production, you guys are learning, doing very good. Good producers, great meetups. Today there's a couple of meetups. One is the Spot the Spook meetup in Arlington, Virginia. That's definitely where you want to be on the lookout for the spook. That's all spooks. That's Dudley's spots. Spot the non-spook. Yeah, right. Exactly. Find the normie.

3:22:20 Dudley Sport & Ale, Sir William of West Pinnsletucky will be helping you spot the spooks. Nashville, the Pit Stop Meetup, 12.30, so that's already well underway, the Southern Grist Brewing Company. On Monday, the based bowling at the Boardwalk Bowl in Santa Cruz, California kicks off at 6 o'clock at Boardwalk Bowl. On Wednesday, the Orlando Road Trip Meetup, there'll be the Hourglass Brewing on Curry Ford Road. And Thursday, the next show day, Dog Days of Denver Dissident Meetup, 6.30 Mountain Time at the City Park, Denver Museum of Nature and Science coming up.

3:22:58 in the month of August, the 13th Chicago, 14th Stuttgart, Germany, Sunset Valley, Texas, that's the 512 meetup. I hope to be at that one or the next one. Edmonton area on the 18th, Redlands, California, the 19th Charlotte, North Carolina, the 21st Rhode Island, Charleston, South Carolina, Sao Paulo, Brazil, Punta Gorda, Florida, New Braunfels, Texas, that's gonna be a good one. Adelaide, South Australia, Oregon Local 23, the Philly area. On August 28th, Long Beach, Nelson, BC, Portland, Oregon. The 29th, another Lowlands meetup in the Netherlands. And on the 30th, Knoxville, Tennessee.

3:23:38 It is pandemonium with the meetups. This is so good. I'm so happy that people are doing that. Go to noagendameetups.com if you can't find one near you, then just start one yourself. It's easy. Noagendameetups.com. They are like a party. Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days. Be where you want to be, triggered or held to blame. well the Amy will be producing the no agenda Healdsburg meetup eventually you'll get it

3:24:21 Oh, the meetup report? Yeah, we need a read up on the meetup report. Yeah, it was a good meetup. I have to say there was another good-looking group of people and Sarah and her baby, one and a half year old Violet, who seems to be a show fan, runs around the house. This is the one I called a trap baby, a sucker baby. The trap baby? Explain trap baby again. That's a baby that is so sweet, pleasant, pretty. amenable, dress properly, everything you use as a woman to trick other women into having babies who aren't gonna be like this baby. I've run into two trap babies at meetups. There's this violist, the best. She's one and a half. She speaks clearly. She's got a nice enunciation. She loves the show and I guess wanders around the house singing jingles when the show is on. Adorbs.

3:25:18 Yes, totally. Adorbs. And she's pretty and she's a cute little one and a half, she's gonna be two soon, maybe in a month. And there was another one that was at one of the other meetups I went to, there was another baby that was just the same, ridiculous. And you look at these babies, it's like good luck. Good luck having one like that. It never happens. It's also sometimes it tricks the family itself. There's a lot of stories about, oh this baby's great, let's have more. And then they get twins that are just horrible. And then you get a terrorist, which most babies are around too. Bad seed. Oh my goodness, my parents used to call me that.

3:25:58 You were, oh, that makes sense. It was more, it makes sense. It's from a movie, you know. Well, hold on. I want to hear it. It was more in the context of, oh, that Mark Redmer kid, yeah, he's a bad seed. So what movie does it come from? There's a movie and I it popularized the term which I think was floating around just in general but it's called The Bad Seed and it's a terrific film. It's about this little girl who's sweet as can be, little blonde girls as sweet as can be and she like always trying to burn the house down and stab the parents and she ends up killing everybody.

3:26:38 Oh my goodness. And then at the end somebody takes her in because she's now a poor orphan and she's just so sad about being an orphan. She feels so bad about it and she takes a, you know, she's taken in by another family and she gives, and I think at the end if she didn't, she should have, she gives a look to the camera like, more victims. No way. Yeah. It's a great film if you want to get... 1956? Yeah, it's an old movie all black and white. Yeah Okay, well anyway, I'll put it in the show notes I might watch that I like it as he winds up killing everybody yes bad seed All right. I only have one ISO. I don't even remember what it is, but I'll play my my candidates Come on. That's drop the mic moment. Oh

3:27:26 Yeah, nice you are. I like it. That's gonna probably beat mine which is... Oh really? ...vaxation. Really? Really? Wow, I didn't expect that. Let's see. The vaxation of the unvaccinated. What the hell did the president just say? A vaxation of the unvaccinated? Did he seriously say that? A vaxation of the unvaccinated. That would have been a funny clip to play. It's not a great ice set. I have it. Do you have the full clip? I have the whole clip. This is the Biden WTF vaccine clip, but he makes about three mistakes, uses that phrase vaxation, which is a show title. Show title. Yeah.

3:28:05 I wanted to finish the show with it. I mean there's a couple of things I wouldn't mind playing another clip or two before we get to this Biden clip. I'm just letting you know that we're gonna finish and you know what you're gonna say. Yeah, show's too long. All right, well, let's just play. I just want to keep us up with the eviction update. Yes, thank you for doing that. The eviction will do that. And we'll go to Biden. OK, eviction update. Here we go. The Biden administration's issued a new two month moratorium on evictions covering much of the country after facing intense pressure from progressive lawmakers led by Congress member Cori Bush.

3:28:47 The new CDC moratorium will cover areas of the United States where there's substantial or high spread of the coronavirus. A nationwide moratorium on evictions expired Saturday after Democratic lawmakers failed to pass a bill to protect millions of people who could be forced from their homes. On Friday night, Democratic Congressmember Cori Bush, who was once unhoused herself— Unhoused! —began camping out on the steps of the Capitol in protest. She stayed on the steps until Tuesday's announcement. In a tweet, Bush wrote, "'On Friday night, I came to the Capitol with my chair. I refused to accept that Congress could leave for vacation while 11 million people faced eviction. For five days we've been out here, demanding that our government acts to save lives. Today our movement moved mountains,' she said." During an interview on CNN, Bush responded to the temporary moratorium extension. I'm elated.

3:29:48 I'm overwhelmed, you know, because just the thought that so many people right now, millions of people, you know, will not be forced out on the streets. Meanwhile, Democratic Congressmember Rashida Tlaib is calling on House Democrats to return recent contributions from real estate tycoon George Marcus, who recently donated $1 million to the House Majority PAC just weeks before Democratic lawmakers failed to extend the eviction moratorium. Yeah. Huh. It's not getting returned. Well, I have a little update on that. First, multiple producers sent in some good information that the ruling the Supreme Court made was a procedural caveat. They did not rule on the constitutionality of the mandate from the CDC. They just denied the landlord's request for emergency relief. And to remind everybody,

3:30:46 Forty billion dollars went to the states to be distributed to landlords and only 2% is actually being given out. I have an update on that. Kavanaugh, Supreme Justice Kavanaugh, did give an opinion after the fact, after the ruling. He said he agreed with the district court's ruling that the CDC had exceeded its authority by issuing a nationwide eviction moratorium, but he said that because the moratorium would expire in only a few weeks, he would deny the application to lift the stay. So, it still would have to go to Congress to have a bill created and passed for this. So, what has happened, this extension of 60 days is still wrong.

3:31:35 Let's go to the root cause, as the vice president would say. Why is this not getting from the states to the landlords? And we have a dude named Ben with the boots on the ground. from Georgia says consider how one thing leads to another and he works on the Call systems for the state you can't administer assistance without a call center You can't run a call center when that bracket of workers is being paid to stay home And you can't build a call center without chips and wait for it ask John. That's right hard drives

3:32:13 But seriously, in a state where the counties get funds to distribute, I am watching this in real time. In an IT division where the pandemic pushed many top members to quit or take new and higher pay, plus a lack of goods to build an outfit or call center, just recently getting staff to show up for jobs to take calls, the lines are long, the boards are overloading, and stuff is broke. John, they did not have anything ready for this money. And the states are nincompoops. Who knew? Yeah, I mean seriously, does everything have to have a whole new division and all new stuff has to be set up or they're just borrowing broken crap from some other division? This is a local issue. Everyone's focusing on the Washington DC politicians, but this is local and it's in shambles.

3:33:05 shambles and I guess it's everywhere. Florida, I checked Florida also only 2%. One more cap, sorry? Yeah, no it's just obvious they're incompetent. Yeah, it's like Occam's razor, you know I'm looking for all these cronyism, no they're just stupidly incompetent. But Cori Bush, if you haven't heard this clip it's 27 seconds of pure goodness. So she gets called out for, you know, she's part of the squad, defund the police, and she gets called out for having hired $70,000 worth of private security. And here's how she addressed it. I won't let them get that off. You can't get that off. I'm going to make sure I have security because I know I have had attempts on my life and I have too much work to do. There are too many people that need help right now for me to allow that. So if

3:34:00 I end up spending $200,000 if I spend $10 more on it. You know what? I get to be here to do the work. So suck it up and defunding the police has to happen. We need to defund the police and put that money into social safety nets. Now, how does that work? What gall that woman has. She has private security. You funded police so you don't get any protection but I'm gonna just, I got, I'm gonna spend tax and by the way when she says that that's taxpayers money she's not paying it out of her own pocket. Of course not. No she's paying it from her re-election fund I believe which I don't think is legal but okay. Yeah it could be illegal.

3:34:39 But just the gall of it, what she's saying is I'm special, I'm doing the work, I'm out here, I need to be protected, I am your leader, obey, shut up, you gotta get real with it, defund the police. She's a horrible person. She's a horrible person. Horrible person. How does she get voted in? The machine. Ah, that is a question for next time. I think we should play my biting clip before you go out. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I completely forgot. I forgot about it! Do you know how much I do? Forget about it. Forget about it. You just sit there and clip your toenails. I got a lot to do here. I got no... Well, the toenails are clipped. Alright, Biden, here we go. Okay, this is... I'm gonna set it up now. There's a few minutes left. Before we hit the next top of the hour. This is one of the classics because he makes so many errors in his assertions plus the stupid, whatever he said, vaccine something or other. Vaxation. Vaxations. Yeah, vaxation.

3:35:41 So let's go. Okay, here we go. Because of our success with the vaccination effort, this new Delta variant wave of COVID-19 will be very different to be able to deal with than the one that was underway when I took office. And yes, cases are going to go up before they come back down. It's a pandemic of the unvaccinated. I know I've said that constantly and others have as well. The vaccination of the unvaccinated, you know, and it's taking a needless toll on our country. You know, we have roughly 350 million people vaccinated in the United States and billions around the world. And virtually no one's died because of that vaccination.

3:36:28 Oh my goodness. Okay, 50 million vaccinated. Yeah, 350 million Americans are back. I think I think I would wear if it was the right design, a t shirt that said vaccination of the unvaccinated. I think I would wear one. Maybe it's a movie title, you know, as well as maybe it's kind of like a movie promo t shirt coming soon to a theater near you. Vaccination of the unvaccinated. I think vaxation of the unvaxed, it would be even better. Is that what you said? Vaxation? Yeah. The communists have won, John. It's all over. It's all over. Yeah, you said vaxation. Vaxation. Even better. Well, that's the t-shirt I would wear. Vaxation of the unvaccinated. What is that? Oh, you don't know? Well, we know what you are. Republican. Republican. Damn Republican.

3:37:28 All right, that's it. We will return on Thursday. There will be plenty to do and plenty to discuss. Good job everybody on producing today's show. Thank you for your courage, and thank you for your clips, and thank you for your creativity. Coming to you from the heart of Texas Hill Country, still in FEMA Region No. 6 in the governmental maps, where we're at 95% vaxation rate. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where, I don't know, I think we've got 96% vaxation rate and looking forward to 97. 97.5. I'm John C. Dvorak. Coming up after the No Agenda show on the stream, we've got the 00 Top 10, Sir Rhino the Bearded. End of show makes Sir Chris Wilson who is back

3:38:18 Tom Starkweather and Rolando Gonzalez. We'll talk to you on Thursday. Until then, adios, simofos! And such. My need is such that I troll much too much Surely I'm going to jail Oh yes, I'm the best offender Shitposting in a world that I own

3:39:17 I'm playing the game to trigger and to shame You can block or leave you alone The real is more crazy than make believe Too real, what I feel, what the truth can't conceal Yes, I'm the based offender And I laugh while society breaks down I meme what I see just so easily Surrounded by the mentally unsound And I live in a world full of clouds This is insane

3:40:21 So important these masks. You're not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations. This is insane. End the break. So people who are vaccinated can still get COVID. We should expect tens of thousands perhaps of breakthrough infections. This is insane. They're okay. Getting these third booster shots. Our vaccines are working exceptionally well. Their boogeyman is on vaccinated people. That's what they're doing. This is right. But if Donald Trump tells us that we should take it, I'm not taking it. And their timing, their approval, and their distribution should never ever be distorted by political considerations. This is it.

3:41:07 Well, I guess I'm not surprised that Biden doesn't remember me. I guess the question is, is what else has he forgotten? This is insane. Our society can't trust the scientists. Well, no, no, you can trust the scientists. Well, I think that's going to be an issue for all of us. This is insane. It's not likely to go through all the tests and trials that are needed to be done. All of us who got two shots that we might need after five or six months. A third shot. This is insane. And the brain... We are just beginning this surge. This P117 surge is going to happen. It's not an issue of if. It's going to happen. But you're going to help at least get out of the way. No mass, mass, mass, double mass, triple mass. So does this speed up the need for boosters? Eventually you're going to see the infection break through in more cases in those individuals and start causing symptomatic illness. At the outset,

3:42:06 Am I crazy? We need to get more vaccine out and that's the key message right now. Florida and Texas lead the nation in new cases. Denying it is not going to help us. We are walking into the mouth of this virus monster as if somehow we don't know it's here. We are just beginning this surge. We are seeing about 50% of the people who are infected right now are vaccinated, fully vaccinated individuals. And we got to get more vaccine out to more people. We are seeing diminished protection, especially for people who have been vaccinated earlier. I wear a mask because I can help stop the spread of COVID-19 in my community. We are just beginning this surge.

3:42:48 I think Satan is mocking us and unfortunately so many people have fallen into it. Ouch! Out of this property you Nazis! Ouch! Ouch! We are just beginning the search. The best podcast in the universe! Adios, mofo. Dvorak.org slash N-A. Come on, let's drop the mic moment! Boo!