Episode 1251 · Thursday, 18 June 2020

Viewpoint Discrimination

Undercover footage reveals a medical ethics crisis in New York while corporate giants and linguistic authorities pivot to meet the demands of a new activist class.

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About this episode

An undercover nurse at Elmhurst Hospital in New York City has released hidden-camera footage alleging widespread medical malpractice and the unnecessary use of ventilators for profit. The whistleblower claims hospital administrators bypassed 45-minute rapid COVID-19 tests in favor of five-day turnaround tests to justify lucrative admissions. These allegations suggest that heavy sedation protocols and 'Do Not Resuscitate' orders were implemented by a scientific-technological elite without family consent.

Dr. Anthony Fauci defended national lockdown efficacy on NPR while his wife, Christine Grady, oversees bioethics at the NIH, raising potential conflict-of-interest concerns regarding Remdesivir trials. In the corporate sector, Apple CEO Tim Cook announced a $100 million Racial Equity and Justice Initiative as 'Noodle Boy' activists pressure brands like CrossFit and Anthropologie into compliance. Meanwhile, Seattle Mayor Jenny Durkan faces criticism for her handling of the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone where Raz Simone has emerged as a local warlord.

Merriam-Webster updated its definition of racism following a request from a Missouri woman, prompting a look at the recursive nature of modern dictionaries. John C. Dvorak traces the etymology of the word nerd back to Dr. Seuss while Baron Nick Foster and Knight Randy Holcomb join the No Agenda Round Table. The program concludes with a de-douching ceremony for listeners escaping New York for the mask-free environment of Kentucky.


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CHAPTER 01 / 49 Discussion

Mexican Toilet Paper, Supply Chain Shortages

Shortages of premium toilet paper brands like Charmin in the United States have led to an influx of Mexican-manufactured toilet paper in grocery stores. Observations indicate that while the packaging is not as colorful as expected, these off-brands have become the primary available option for consumers.

mexico· charmin· toilet paper· supply chain· groceries

00:00 Oh, oh, privilege, privilege, white privilege! Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Sunday, June 14th, 2020. This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 1251. This is no agenda. He's on down the road and broadcasting live from Opportunity Zone 33 here in the frontier of Austin, Texas, capital of the drone star state. In the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where we're all buying crap. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning! What are you guys buying out there then? If you're buying crap? Oh, just crap. Everyone's buying... You can't buy good stuff anywhere. You buy crap. What do you mean? Groceries? All the toilet paper's from Mexico now. Well, you know who took the good toilet paper.

00:51 No, who? The Chinese! Hello, hello, your mom warned you. There's a reference. You know the Chinese stole it all. Really, we have good toilet paper here. We have, let's just call it the one I like. Which is? Charmin. Oh, I still got those giant rolls of Charmin, so I'm still good. Oh, OK. All right. But what's up with the what's up with the Mexican stuff? Is it no good? All I see is that they all everyone's got toilet paper now, but it's all we it's not the weird off brands you normally see as off brands. It's all Mexican toilet paper. Are they really colorful packaging? It's no. Curiously, not. You would have thought. Hmm. Interesting.

CHAPTER 02 / 49 Discussion

Merriam-Webster Racism Definition, John C. Dvorak Nerd Etymology

Merriam-Webster updated its definition of racism following a request from a Missouri woman, adding entries regarding systemic and institutional racism. This prompt's a story from one of the hosts regarding his role in changing the dictionary definition of the word nerd, which he traced back to the 1950 Dr. Seuss book If I Ran the Zoo.

merriam-webster· racism· dr. seuss· nerd· etymology

01:37 Yeah, I was fascinated by it. Yeah. Well, well, all hell's breaking loose. What do you mean? Yeah. What do you mean all hell's breaking loose on the streets? You mean? Well, not here. Well, let me start with some interesting news as we only questioned it a few weeks ago and now within a week, within a week of this young woman from Missouri who said, hey the definition of racism isn't correct, it's not, doesn't make sense in the way we use it today and they have changed their definition and published it. I'm sure you are very excited to hear the new definition. When you were doing that story I forgot to mention that this particular process is not unusual.

02:23 I say that because I had a definition changed. Oh, do tell. Yes, all the dictionaries said... I'd written this column to slam dunk my research and the definition of nerd... Oh, I remember this story. Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is a good one. Was used to be nobody knew what it where it came from how this word even evolved and it was They would all say well, maybe it's a shortening of nair do what do all nair do all or something some crazy little that was in the dictionary Yeah, yeah, nerd do I was stupid nerd do all on cheese well nerd no nerd nair do all the guys in there do all uh-huh

03:04 The guy who doesn't do anything is a ne'er-do-well. There's just some phrase that somebody in the chat room might know it exactly. I know the ne'er-do-well, I know the phrase, yeah, but somehow they derived... Maybe it's a contraction, it's a contraction of that. That was the dictionary definition of nerd. Wow. Or the etymology that was in the dictionary. So I tracked the word back to if I ran in the zoo in a 1950 book by Theodore Geis, otherwise known as Dr. Seuss. Yes, and I could find... Interestingly someone in the troll room just mentioned that before you even said it. And I documented that there was no use of this word before he

03:50 Drew a little guy a little nerd. It looks like a nerd little nerdy looking guy called the nerd and Ever since then the word started becoming commonplace and they've developed over after 1950 so theater guys obviously invented the word I Called him up and talked to him about this and he didn't realize this what you called dr. Seuss. Oh Yeah, he was I think he was in New York at that time. And that's kind of cool. Did he talk like a normal human being or did he talk in those weird rhymes? Well, hell, Dvorak, I say I do. It is you the pile I poop and do. No, just a guy like you. Oh, just a guy like me. He was unaware and so I wrote a very elaborate column on this.

04:34 and how the word stems from this 1950 usage. Because it's the only place that he invented the word, and that's where it came from. All the dictionaries very slowly changed their definitions. But it wasn't within a week of you calling him out. It was pretty quick. Oh, really? Yeah, it was faster than you'd think. And so I was kind of happy about that. Well, uh... Oh, by the way, wait, there's one kicker to the story. So some years later, At Universal Studios down in Orlando, they put up a If I Ran the Zoo exhibit with all these different characters in there. And guess what character wasn't there? The nerd, I'm sure. Unbelievable.

05:22 Well, I wish I had such a cool story to tell about the word racism, but obviously it's a lot less significant. It didn't take all this work. It just took one girl and a cell phone with email and she got it changed. Yeah, well that was pretty radical. Well, the definition I think was lacking by today's standards. Definitions change over time. It irks me that, but it does happen. Well, let's see if we agree with the definition. Now, what they did not do is change the number one definition, which to me is kind of a chicken shit move. You're not, I mean, if you take, doesn't everyone just look at the first definition and then say, well, it could also mean that, blah, blah, blah, we kind of let it slide. It doesn't feel like it's a real change to me personally.

06:10 Okay, so the original, still the same is racism definition, a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race. And as far as I know that has been the definition for a long time. Number two is what has changed. We have an A and a B, they couldn't decide. to a doctrine or political program based on the assumption of racism and designed to execute its principles.

CHAPTER 04 / 49 Discussion

No Agenda Glossary, Community Crowdsourcing

The No Agenda Glossary website has been updated to allow user contributions for show-specific terminology and nicknames. Recent entries include definitions for media figures such as Chuck Todd, referred to as Chip Todd, and Anderson Cooper.

no agenda glossary· crowdsourcing· chip todd· chuck todd· anderson cooper

10:05 Was trying for about the last four years to do a faq. Yeah, and maybe just put it in the glossary Let me see what we have today. What new of their newest serving up 41 definitions for all your definition For all your definitioning needs a work in progress. This is great. Wait recent editions. Oh, this is cool. Chip Todd Rolf and Anderson Cooper Chip Todd, let's see what we get under Chip Todd. Chip Todd, the show nickname for Chuck Todd of Meet the Press. Oh, this is cool, there are already people contributing. This is very nice. Anyway, so, hey, take that Webster or Miriam Webster. We'll do it ourselves. I don't care. I don't care about you. Update on the email situation that I went through.

CHAPTER 05 / 49 Discussion

FloodCRM Russian Email Spam, Financial Fraud Tactics

A Russian-hosted service called FloodCRM.net is identified as a tool used by fraudsters to overwhelm victims' inboxes with thousands of subscription emails. This tactic is designed to hide legitimate security alerts or password reset notifications during a financial account takeover.

floodcrm· russia· email flood· financial fraud· spam

11:00 with the email flood and we just do a couple of quick updates and we have some real stuff to talk about. It should be over by now. Oh, well, of course, now I'm subscribed to a lot of stuff. So there's that to deal with. You might be getting some good information. I put it all, you know, I filter it all out and I take a look and see what's there. Pretty much all of it's crap. And also because of all the email list subscriptions, now I'm on different spam lists, but that, we've been working on that. That's, you know, Bayesian logic does pretty well. But one of our producers, sent me a note, he says, hey, I deal with the financial fraud at work and you are correct about the most common reason these methods are used. The email flood of being subscribed to news lists, which is typically, and it may have happened, although I haven't noticed anything, I only have two accounts, it's not that hard. Typically, it's they steal a password and then they want to make sure that when they reset the password or they have access somehow, that you don't see that email and the flood just goes by.

11:58 And our producer goes on to say, I have had access to the one that does the volume you experienced. It is hosted by a Russian group and is for rent. It's called FloodCRM. FloodCRM.net. And he even gave me an invite code. It's fantastic. If you want to send 15,000 emails to someone, because you do it by level, but you can also do phone call floods, SMS floods. This is an evil, evil tool. Cost you about 10 bucks for 15,000. And now you have it. Yes. 10 bucks for 15,000 emails. So the volume I received, someone paid several hundred dollars for that to go through that. So I hope it was worth it. Did you do a count? Did I count? Yeah. No, did you do a count? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I said about a hundred thousand in the first, you know, 48 hours. Oh yeah, that's a hundred bucks at least. Yeah. Unless it was the Russians themselves. Yeah. Who knows? Who knows?

CHAPTER 06 / 49 Discussion

Belgian Congo Population Statistics, King Leopold II

A correction is issued regarding the historical population of the Congo in 1955, noting the actual figure was 15 million rather than 5 million. The discussion touches on the historical atrocities committed under King Leopold II and the current political instability in Belgium.

belgian congo· king leopold ii· population· belgium· statistics

12:57 And... You didn't host me anything. Oh, yes. As is usual, whenever someone has grievance on this show, it always gets sent to me. And as is usual, when someone has grievance with you on the show, everyone sends the email to me. I forwarded a few of these. There's some confusion about your Congo numbers. Oh, yeah. My Congo number's off. People are desperate to understand. Yes, because... Well, I got those emails too. Oh, you did? Okay, good. Yes, I used the Republican Congo numbers instead of the Democratic Republican Congo numbers and I was off by a factor of five. Five. So the numbers of people that were alive in 1955 was actually 15 million, not five. Okay.

13:44 That was a factor of 3 and 55, but it's a factor. It's a bigger factor now. Like if for some reason Democratic or Republican or Con, who could go went population crazy. And so that so I can't prove my point. The whole point is ruined. That's the problem. Yeah, I thought it would be. That's too bad. But I think I can still go back and do some enough research. I cannot believe that anyone could kill in a population of a country of 20 million that you can kill half of the people of the country and get away with it without them killing you. It just doesn't make any sense. Those Belgians, man, they're slippery. King Leopold. They can't even keep... Right now they're being pushed around by the social justice warriors. Do they even have a government yet? Remember when they went for three years without a government, I think? Just like, we can't decide who it's gonna be. So we're fine. The country just kept on chugging along. Whatever, we're all good. No problem.

CHAPTER 07 / 49 Discussion

UK COVID-19 Death Statistics, Boris Johnson Criticism

The UK Health Minister is criticized for using "slippery" language regarding COVID-19 fatalities, specifically the phrase "died after testing positive" rather than "died from" the virus. Boris Johnson faces political pressure as the government reports a significant drop in infections between May and June 2020.

united kingdom· boris johnson· covid-19· statistics· cobra

14:38 Let's see, there's a lot, you know like... I got a couple of interesting little mini sequences, but I'd like to start off in the UK where they're kind of going through what the US went through now with the fear and the numbers and they want to open back up and Boris Johnson is being blamed for doing it all wrong. Boris, they hate him. Obviously. It's his hair. The UK Health Minister though was providing some interesting statistics And it's always in the wording that is interesting. So they got pretty high death numbers. Let's listen to... I think it's like 48,000 dead? Some astronomer. It's a big number for 60 million people.

15:26 But of course that's the national health system, so I mean everyone I'm sure was treated just perfectly. Yes, the best. But you know the question we now have everywhere is you know were these people, did these people really die from COVID-19? Did they just have the virus and they had some other comorbidity? Well they've come up with a way in the UK to describe that. The fifth slide shows the daily figures for those who've sadly lost their lives. after testing positive for coronavirus across all settings. I don't know man that doesn't say that you died as a result from coronavirus he said something very different they died after having tested positive it's not the same thing. Who sadly lost their life. Testing positive of something

16:14 You can't test positive for herpes, it doesn't mean it killed ya. Who sadly lost their lives after testing positive for coronavirus. It's so slippery man. You gotta be careful, because I'm sure that's true, but that doesn't mean that all those people died of a result from that. But I don't know. We don't know. In fact... Yeah you do. Yeah I know. Well they're pulling the emergency brake. They're signaling already. By updating you on the latest information from the government's COBRA file. On the first slide here we can see the latest information on infections. Results from the ONS infection survey published this morning estimate that the number of people who tested positive for coronavirus in England fell from 152,000 between the 27th of April and the 10th of May to 33,000

17:04 between the 25th of May and the 7th of June. And it's just approximate numbers, mind you. They could have chosen 32, they could have amped it up, done 34 if it's approximate. Who gives a crap anyway? You're there to scare people. No, let's make sure we let everybody know it's a 33. Abort mission. Abort mission. Crazy. Well I'm not a subscriber to the 33 meaning abort mission by the way. Okay, no. I have no proof that that's what it is. It was at one point used as a board mission. I think now it's just signaling for all kinds of stuff. That's, yeah. All kinds of stuff is the problem. What is that? All kinds of stuff. I wish I had an answer. So, did you see the undercover nurse? No. Oh crap. This is a newer one because it was, you know, this is a new recording.

CHAPTER 08 / 49 Discussion

Elmhurst Hospital Undercover Nurse, Medical Malpractice Allegations

An undercover nurse who served at Elmhurst Hospital in New York City during the pandemic peak has released video and audio alleging widespread medical malpractice. The footage, captured via hidden camera glasses, suggests that patients were mismanaged for profit and placed on ventilators unnecessarily.

elmhurst hospital· new york city· medical malpractice· ventilators· undercover

18:00 Yes, this is a new recording. It was a chapter 9, I guess. And to preface it all, let me kind of say what I think is going on here. This nurse or her friend, or if you'll recall, there was a video several weeks ago, maybe six weeks ago. It was a while back. Yeah, and it was an Instagram, you know, a short shot in portrait mode. And she was saying that... I actually downloaded that video. Yeah, she's saying they're killing people. I'm downloading these videos by the way. Thank you, very good. And while you're at it, upload them to BitChute or something just to offload them, someone else to store it somewhere.

18:38 And it was so outrageous, her claims, and the problem, if I recall, and it's very superficial of me, but I looked at her and went like, this is some cute Instagram girl who has a friend and she said something, she's really upset, and I really just went click, I don't care, whatevs. Yeah, I know, but that's why there's two of us. You downloaded it, I dismissed it. Now, what I think happened There's this nurse who, she's ex-military, I think army, she was in Iraq in 2003. Oh yes, yes, that one. There's different ones. Yeah, this is the one I'm talking about.

19:20 And she was, she retired from the- Yeah, she's really irked this one. Well, she retired from the military and she's working at a, where she lives at a hospital in Florida and on some kind of exchange program. There's a lot, you know, traveling nurses, very common. She went to Elmhurst in New York, which was the epicenter of the epicenter. That was the hospital where we had the body bags and we had the refrigeration trucks and all the horrible things. That was the epicenter. Right, the epicenter of the epicenter. And she clearly saw what she believed was things that were very, very wrong. And she then must have either contacted or somehow she got in contact with some guy.

20:05 some producers, some production group who has taken her story and made it a bit confusing because it's professional. You see her videos, the interviews, she's got makeup. It's not, by the way, it's not great makeup, but it is television makeup. She's, you know, her eyes, everything is all done. She's wearing the hat, I think, for some kind of, you know, makes her a little bit less recognizable. Her hair probably looks very different. It's long. She can do all kinds of stuff where you wouldn't see her, you wouldn't recognize her immediately. But she otherwise, you know, she's It's her and she's stating her name and she's saying this is what she saw. And when the guy asks questions throughout, and this is about an hour, if you haven't seen it, it's in the show notes, of course, nashownotes.com. He sounds almost like the Veritas guy, you know what I mean? Which it pisses me off. He's like, can't you really believe it? And it's not, it's like, doesn't feel good. There's a lot of things about this that don't feel good. There's a book coming out. So,

21:00 That always feels weird. On the other hand, I like that someone has taken the story from the beginning and decided to professionalize it to get the message out. Because this video, I mean, I believe Tucker Carlson showed a bit of it, maybe Friday or Thursday, a little snippet. But that was about it. It had just come out. But you can needle drop in this video. I'm not kidding. Needle drop anywhere you want. For those of you who are too young to remember, we used to have vinyl records. You had a needle. What? I drop a needle and then it's stuck in the floor. Drop the needle on the record and the drum beat goes like this. So...

21:37 You can drop it in almost anywhere and get any number of stories that we have heard about, have discussed throughout the entire pandemic and lockdown. We've talked about the do not resuscitate orders. Oh no, that was a hoax. Turn out to be not. Oh, it's not true. We talked about the ventilators, people being killed on the ventilators with over-pressurization. All of this is in here. Every single piece. That's why I don't watch these things. It's like reiterating our show for the past two months. Well, what's good about this is she, under cover, she also recorded video and audio. They gave her glasses with a camera and she was mic'd up. So it's not Veritas quality. It's actually audible without the subtitles. Yes. Say it again, Dvorak. That's nice. They're looking at screen, they blur some stuff out, but they're showing the actual proof

CHAPTER 09 / 49 Discussion

Rapid COVID Testing Scarcity, Hospital Profit Motives

Allegations surface that Elmhurst Hospital avoided using 45-minute rapid COVID-19 tests in favor of five-day turnaround tests to justify admitting patients to specialized units. This practice is contrasted with private hospitals in Florida that reportedly utilized rapid testing and alternative treatments to avoid long-term admissions.

rapid test· elmhurst hospital· florida· healthcare costs· insurance

22:28 of what you would think would be, I'm a layman, but medical malpractice. And doing things more for a profit motive than anything else. So I just took, I'm taking four random clips. Yeah, needle drop. Totally, I really needle dropped this. And we'll start with the issue And of course, if you really, you gotta watch the whole thing to get all the context, but one of her claims is that people were coming in who thought they might have coronavirus. And she said, it's not in this clip, but she said, well, most of these people had anxiety. They had trouble breathing because they were afraid, the anxiety kicks in, they start hyperventilating. So she wasn't, so, but instead of using the rapid test,

23:19 which could get someone in and out in 45 minutes, they would do different tests and put people in the ward with the presumed positive coronavirus people. You feel me, Smalls? So you walk in saying, I don't know, man. Nice. She'll tell you herself here. Well, you don't seem to have it, but sit here next to this guy who does, and you will. There you go. We have in the United States and we've had it for a while, a rapid test. That's 45 minutes. Do you have COVID? Don't you? They're not. They're not doing the rapid test here. They're not? No.

23:57 Okay. And Alvarez, you've never seen them? Nope, they don't do it. It's too expensive. They do five day. It's like five to seven day turnaround. In the meantime, they admit them onto COVID units. So non-COVIDs, the rule outs are going to COVID units and waiting for the results, even though we have a rapid result, which is 45 minutes and they're not doing it. No. That one. But would you say it's too expensive? I mean, isn't this all getting charged to the fund anyway? I mean, why not do it? Why not? Are you saying that? I don't know why. It doesn't make any sense to me. I asked that doctor about it. How come you guys don't do the rapid test here?

24:45 I see the place, I mean it exists, it's just they don't have access to it. There's only limited supply so if you have deep pockets you get first. Oh, so money. Most times it's money about everything, yes. That's sad. It's reality. Hold on a second. Wait, so instead of spending the extra money for the rapid test and getting the person out of there, they admit them, which actually costs more money? Gee, I wonder why they're doing it. With the probability They'll get COVID and they'll get even more money. After four to five days they'll get it. Yes! Yes! Of course on this show we have pointed out over and over when you compare the numbers around the country New Jersey and New York have the most cases and there are the two scammiest states in the nation.

CHAPTER 10 / 49 Discussion

Ventilator Sedation Protocols, Medical Arrogance

The use of heavy sedatives and paralytics like Fentanyl and Diazepam on ventilator patients is criticized as a factor in high mortality rates. Claims are made that the medical community has developed an "order follower" mentality that prioritizes textbook protocols over individualized patient care.

fentanyl· diazepam· ventilators· medical ethics· sedation

25:39 Now this is a public hospital and so she was continuously drawing the comparison between the private hospital she works at in Florida. She said we didn't have a single person die. Most people who were sick were out of there in six to eight hours and of course hydroxychloroquine, vitamin D, vitamin C. But, you know, none of the expensive stuff. No ventilators, no... I mean, at a certain point she's talking about what kind... when someone gets put on a ventilator, what kind of drugs they put in your IV. Oh my God! Well, they have to paralyze you. But you will never get out of it. It's literally... fentanyl is just the first.

26:18 Fentanyl and then it's just all the Sam's and the Pam's diacepam all of that shit is in there and yes the worst and she said actually the one guy who survives on her ward the one guy young guy he Because he was a pretty heavy drug user. He the drugs didn't have that effect on him. He extubated himself He pulled the tube of the ventilator out of himself and he walked out that day and He's like, I don't want to be here. He pulled it out. Anyway, she has another comparison with this Elmhurst hospital and she compares it to a place in her military service. I compare this hospital to a third world country. I've been in a third world country hospital in Iraq. The Iraq hospital is better than this one. And that says a lot. I've been there. I've been in both hospitals.

27:14 And we're, this is in the United States, and this hospital is treating low-income, mostly, people. And it almost makes me feel like they think these people are disposable. And they're not. They're people. And having listened to the whole hour, and you hear a lot of how doctors respond, There is an arrogance within the medical community, which I believe is in some ways comparable to that in the law enforcement community. When you're dealing with people who are violent and nasty and messy and it's always a problem and they hate you, eventually you build up a resistance like, well, they're just them. And I think in the medical field, it's like, well, can't help it. It's just another person. Screw it. We're on.

28:11 But there's this, throughout the whole video, there's this orders from them, from above, the higher-ups, and no one can answer exactly who they are or what they want or why they're making these certain decisions. And this is... The well this is one of her conclusions which we've already made. Yeah I mean that's that's quite right now. So her statement was it looks like they wanted to get people sick for the money perhaps. It's quite a charge I mean what makes you think they really want them to to get COVID? because it money money it's I think it's at least $29,000 per patient and then you have to think you are also charging supplies and more supplies more supplies that's just like a bonus money

28:57 But the residents aren't getting that, right? I mean, why? Well, that's the thing. And I actually had a... I've went at it with a lot of residents already and they're order followers. Yeah, we've heard that before. I'm a rule follower. So if the rule is that we have to do it, then I'll do it. And I believe this. I believe the medical profession has just put a bunch of textbook rule followers into place Yeah, who knows if they even learn about the human body anymore. Just it's all about treatment treatment treatment Keep them in move them up get them in get them on the vent And then you got to fill out the forms and check the boxes to get the money so the last clip I have a little longer but Is about the do not resuscitate and what happened in this particular clip?

CHAPTER 11 / 49 Discussion

Do Not Resuscitate Orders, Elmhurst Hospital Ethics

Undercover audio from Elmhurst Hospital reveals a dispute between nurses and doctors regarding "Do Not Resuscitate" (DNR) orders for a 37-year-old patient. The footage suggests that hospital "higher-ups" implemented policies to withhold life-saving measures due to resource scarcity without proper family consent.

dnr· cardiac arrest· medical ethics· sarah palin· death panels

29:50 is someone from higher up said that patient is do not resuscitate, DNR. And in the computer system, the nursing station did not say DNR. So that would mean he would be, the patient would be at full code. So if someone goes into cardiac arrest or is dying, then it's full code and there's things we do. CPR, just shock, whatever it is, whatever the situation. DNR, do not resuscitate, means let the person die. So there's a, in the system, there's no change.

30:28 The doctor saying, no, this guy, he's DNR. And there's even a question if the patient's family is aware that there's a do not resuscitate, which there really isn't, but it came from somewhere up high. So it's very confusing and this contains actual audio of her talking to a doctor about it and then to the other nurses. Why are we being told not to I'm going to tell you right now if he bottoms out I'm jumping on his chest. Period. Point blank. It's going to happen. Because until that status is changed in the computer,

31:06 That's what I'm obligated to do under my nursing license. Right. Because you guys aren't going to back me up and protect me. Well, Elmhurst does have a policy given like a COVID policy given the scarcity of dialysis and blood. It can be a tongue code, it can be whatever. It's a difference normally the standards whatever the family says like we just did so they would say code in for about five years like you just do that It's a little bit different now because of the new policy in place There's the doctor's names are being beeped out which is that don't need

31:48 This shocked me. Sure, the guy's 80 years old, but this is exactly the death panel we have heard about. Yeah, this is your death panel right there. A decision was made. Sarah Palin's death panel that she was ridiculed for. A decision was made right there, came from the higher ups, We are not going to spend any blood or oxygen, electricity, or even light particles on this waste of human flesh. And we don't need to get permission from the family. We're just gonna tell them. I think someone called them, I don't know. Holy crap! This is...

32:38 This is our medicals, and it doesn't sound like they were in the throes of running out of blood or electricity or oxygen. Ventilators never really seemed to be a problem. There were 30,000 on order and you don't want to send someone, you want to cut someone off? It continues. This guy was 37. I'm sorry, he wasn't 80, he was 37. Holy crap. Sorry, you waste of human flesh. And I said, and who decided this? And I said, can you put a comfort care order in that? No, we can't do that. Can you put a DNR order in? No, we can't do that. I said, so what's our plan?

33:30 Do we have to modify this? Well, he's dying and I'm like I understand that but there needs to be an order indicating that either I'm doing compressions or I'm not doing compressions. Well, I can say that we can all be in agreement that we will do it. I will definitely. Because I'm going to jump on him. So will I. I'll go right with you. I don't care. That's what we're here for. I'm not playing these stupid games. Until they change his status that he has a DNR and they can do a true physician consent if they've talked with the family. But until they change it and I see it, he's a full coach. It's really, it's you watch the whole thing and your mouth falls open. Well, the nurses seem to at least have their act together. Have we not always said on this show that nurses need to be respected because they're the ones that actually keep you alive in the hospital? This is your example. And I mean, listen to them. Hey, I'm jumping on the guy if he codes. Thank you. It's nice to know someone cares. You know, this looks like a lawsuit that will be a beauty.

34:32 This is just massive like this is like talking about cysts systematic. Thank you systematic malpractice Yep, no death and fraud I would say fraud fraud The US government's gonna have to go after these hospitals and Elmhurst looks like a good target. This is the same hospital, if I'm not mistaken, was one of the many hospitals that was played up on the nightly news in New York City and across the country. And then the next day people went with their cameras and saw that was nothing going on. I believe so. Which was taken down from YouTube, of course. Why not? Well, it was actually President Dwight Eisenhower

CHAPTER 12 / 49 Discussion

Dwight D. Eisenhower Scientific Elite Warning, Hospital Avoidance

President Dwight D. Eisenhower's 1961 farewell address is cited for its warning against public policy becoming captive to a "scientific-technological elite." Current hospital conditions have led to a growing sentiment of avoiding medical facilities in favor of home-based care during the pandemic.

dwight d. eisenhower· military industrial complex· scientific elite· white house· 1961

35:14 He warned us, as he's warned us with other things. From the President's office in the White House in Washington, D.C., we present an address by the President of the United States, Dwight D. Eisenhower. In holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific technological elite. Scientific technological elite. I think we're there. I think we didn't listen. I don't think I've ever listened to Eisenhower. Well, damn it. Didn't he do the military industrial complex bit as well? Yeah, we didn't listen to that either. It's worse than... He could not even imagine what it's like. Ike would be rolling over in his grave. He probably is actually.

36:14 It's, um, so I implore all of you, implore. I'm telling ya, you gots to go watch that video. There's eight other episodes. I don't know what else is in there, I don't care. This is the one. Now, she's also cute, which makes it, I think, actually less credible. But she did have a lot of TV makeup on so you know she may look a little more She just didn't look like a worn nurse. I hate to say it, but you know optics or everything worn out nurse But the question is will this get any legs? I mean I the book I don't know what's gonna happen with this video I'm sure it's getting kicked off YouTube if it has no you already answered the question by even doubting it might get no legs I

36:58 They're gonna cancel it. They can't let this thing go out there. Dr. Carlson took a few clips, that's the end of it. He didn't even take a few, just took like 30 seconds, almost nothing. So we've already done more on this show than the M5M is gonna do on this material because they're all in. This is stuff you really have to see and it will make you think about, you know, I mean seriously, There is now talk that perhaps half the infections in the hospital came in where people got that in the hospital. They walked in healthy, some never walked out. They were immediately like, oh, you're probably COVID, okay, stay in this ward for four or five days. If you don't have it by then, you know, so and you're not with your family, you're stressed out. It's a horrible place to be.

37:48 And then they're like, well, we should sedate you a little bit. And then anything that's wrong with you can kick in. It's a crazy, crazy sequence. I told Tina, I said, just put me in the backyard in a tent. Don't take me to the hospital, please. Bring in dr. Ron the voodoo doctor have him shake some stuff You don't have to go in I mean people would you know they're going into the hospital when if they stayed home They'd be better off If you go there that this okay, well we really have to admit you you know We really feel you should be here for x y & z reason it's a it's very say no the kovat motel Patients check in but they never check out a motel. It's a good title I

CHAPTER 13 / 49 Discussion

Science Friday Racial Justice Statement, STEM Shutdown

Ira Flatow, host of Science Friday, issued an apology for the program's historical lack of diverse voices and pledged to amplify Black scientists. This coincides with the "Shutdown STEM" initiative and statements from Nature magazine regarding systemic racism within the scientific research community.

science friday· ira flatow· black lives matter· stem· nature magazine

38:30 I'd like to move into, move through kind of this into vaccines and into Black Lives Matter. There's a lot to talk about. Fauci is back out doing the rounds, although he's not doing any big, as far as I know, any big announcements or briefings, but he's being interviewed. And on NPR, it was Science Friday. Sure, you know the Science Friday. Oh yeah, Science Fridays. They do that on Friday. Yes, I hear they do it on Friday. And Ira is the host, not Ira Glass, a different Ira. And before we even start, we really need to take a step back and let everybody know that yes, even the scientific community is a racist bag of dicks. Why are we seeing record-breaking spikes in the numbers of cases and hospitalization? That was my intro was for this clip, sorry.

39:23 This is Science Friday. I'm Ira Flato. I want to talk about something for a few minutes before we get started today. Here at Team SciFri, we support the protests demanding racial justice because Black Lives Matter. We know in the long history of Science Friday, we haven't included diverse voices as much as we should have. As a media platform with a large audience, we recognize our equally large responsibility to act in service of social good. We're sorry and we know we can do better. A few years ago, we made it a mission to seek out the voices of black and minority scientists to show you, our listeners, a wider range of perspectives that a lot of times is missing from science news. We made talking about racial disparity research a focus for our radio and digital reporting.

40:16 We aired stories about how black communities have unequal access to health care, how climate change harms the communities disproportionately, and the unfair and racist hiring practices in academia. It's not enough! But we fell short and need to do more. So we're doubling down on elevating and amplifying black voices and experiences in science. It's our duty as journalists to represent black perspectives in science. And I know you would expect nothing less from us. Yeah, why don't we start by making the host someone other than Ira, okay? That would be a good start. Yeah, let's get a black journalist, Ira. Ira. But this is the Shut Down STEM initiative that is now shaming scientists because of course we need to have scientific evidence of systemic racism. I am hearing this used

41:09 There's scientific evidence of systemic racism. I'd like to see... Really? So you can do a double-blind study on this? I guess so. Nature magazine. Systemic racism. Science must listen, learn and change. Nature commits to working to end anti-black practices in research. And then we have... what is this? This is... Shutdown that's just oh yeah this is a shutdown stem initiative and this happened last week you didn't notice it because we're not stem here science has a racism problem did you know that guess you didn't know this is from apparently I didn't I do I do remember last week's stem

41:55 We have not jumped into this, but if you're deciding to jump into it, I'll follow. Science has a racism problem and this is the editors of Science Journal committed to publishing and disseminating exciting work across biological sciences. 13 of us are scientists, none of us is black. Under-representation of black scientists goes beyond our team. Whoo, so look to the history of human genetics and blah blah blah. Okay, so they're everyone's under pressure Everybody's got the noodle gun pointed at him and we're gonna circle around back to that after we listen to a few moments of science Friday with Ira and the Fouchmeister as we listen to

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Anthony Fauci NPR Interview, Lockdown Efficacy Claims

Dr. Anthony Fauci appeared on NPR to defend the efficacy of national lockdowns, claiming they saved hundreds of millions from infection. He attributed recent spikes in states like Texas and Arizona to the reopening process and emphasized the need for robust contact tracing.

anthony fauci· npr· lockdowns· texas· arizona

42:39 Two white guys. Two white guys talking STEM and the numbers, we should be, I think it's a mistake for us to only wash the feet of Black Lives Matter protesters. We should be washing Fauci's feet. He has saved or created millions, millions millions of lives, millions. It worked. Why are we seeing record-breaking spikes in the numbers of cases and surge hospitalizations in recently open states like Texas, Arizona, Utah, North Carolina and Florida? Because they're dickbag Republican states. Well, it's not unexpected, Ira. And the reason is that this virus was so easily transmissible

43:28 that the best way that we did, and we successfully did it, we mitigated it by essentially shutting down... Just notice what he said. We successfully did it. This arrogant prick, listen to him. That the best way that we did, and we successfully did it... We did it! America. We mitigated it by essentially shutting down the country, going into lockdown. It wasn't just us, the rest of the world did the same thing. And you know, there's a recent paper that came out just yesterday or the day before. Here we go. Showing that that closing down of society globally has saved hundreds of millions of infections and at least a few million deaths. So we know that mitigation works. Okay.

44:20 This is bullshit. That is not science. You can't say without having not done it, since everyone did the same thing according to Fauci, you cannot say it worked because we did that. I don't believe that's the actual scientific process. Am I correct, sir? You are correct, sir. Thank you. When you pull back and try to re-enter a degree of normality, you can expect that there will be blips of infection. Whether those infections become real rebounds is going to depend on how effectively you address it by identification, isolation and contact tracing. Okay, great. Anyway, thank you for saving millions of lives. Thank you. Thank you. Even though you can't prove that you did, but all right, there's a paper somewhere that said that so the paper must be right. This is NPR. As you know, it's commercial free time to add in a sponsor.

CHAPTER 15 / 49 Discussion

Remdesivir Clinical Trials, COVID-19 Treatment Progress

Clinical trials for Remdesivir showed a statistically significant but modest 32% reduction in recovery time for hospitalized COVID-19 patients. Dr. Fauci expressed optimism that drug combinations might provide an effective treatment bridge before a vaccine is widely available.

remdesivir· clinical trials· gilead sciences· lung disease· fda

45:20 There have been some recent reports that remdesivir may have some positive effect against the virus. Is it possible that we might have a treatment, like an AIDS, we might have a treatment before we have a vaccine? Ira, I would not be surprised if what you said is absolutely correct. Well, remdesivir was a drug that was put into a placebo-controlled randomized trial. Ooh, sounds funky! In hospitalized patients with COVID-19 who have lung disease. Who are on the brink of death. It was a statistically significant but modest positive effect. Statistically significant but modest positive. Sounds like it was crap.

46:08 of about 32% diminution in the amount of time it takes to recover. Diminution. Oh, man, if you're diminu- if you're diminu- I only had- that was this test that was time to recover, it wasn't survival. Yes, people who didn't die, died less quick. Or didn't die less quic- or didn't die quicker. No, they didn't die, but they didn't die. They didn't die quicker. Thanks, Remdesivir. That's the first kicked out of the hospital a couple days before the other guys exactly towards developing better drugs and drugs in combination. Yes, in combination, well we all know what it is. It's just keep them going, let's keep the vaccine dangling out there everybody. Are we gonna get it? Are we gonna get a vaccine? Is it gonna happen? How do we do it? What's gonna go? Let's turn now towards the search for a vaccine. How can anyone listen? When you do a science program, you have to be a boring guy like Ira. I agree with you. Let's bring in some black voices. Ira's boring.

47:07 Boring. Yeah, we need a boycott. Let's get rid of Ira and put in a black journalist. That's right, black journalist for Science Friday. Ira, you're boring. Let's turn now towards the search for a vaccine. When we can expect a vaccine and has your view changed on this? I don't even know what that question means. Has your view changed on this? What, a vaccine? No, my view hasn't changed. So let me just reiterate it again. We're going to go into an advanced phase three trial in the beginning of the summer with more than one candidate. We. Yeah. Oh yeah. We. Me, Bill, Gavi. That's the vaccine alliance that he's a part of. CDC. I read on Wikipedia, so I don't know if it's true.

CHAPTER 16 / 49 Discussion

NIH Bioethics, Christine Grady and Anthony Fauci

Christine Grady, the head of the Department of Bioethics at the NIH Clinical Center, is identified as the wife of Dr. Anthony Fauci. Her role involves making ethical decisions regarding drug and vaccine trials, raising questions about potential conflicts of interest in the vaccine approval process.

nih· christine grady· anthony fauci· bioethics· fda

46:08 of about 32% diminution in the amount of time it takes to recover. Diminution. Oh, man, if you're diminu- if you're diminu- I only had- that was this test that was time to recover, it wasn't survival. Yes, people who didn't die, died less quick. Or didn't die less quic- or didn't die quicker. No, they didn't die, but they didn't die. They didn't die quicker. Thanks, Remdesivir. That's the first kicked out of the hospital a couple days before the other guys exactly towards developing better drugs and drugs in combination. Yes, in combination, well we all know what it is. It's just keep them going, let's keep the vaccine dangling out there everybody. Are we gonna get it? Are we gonna get a vaccine? Is it gonna happen? How do we do it? What's gonna go? Let's turn now towards the search for a vaccine. How can anyone listen? When you do a science program, you have to be a boring guy like Ira. I agree with you. Let's bring in some black voices. Ira's boring.

47:07 Boring. Yeah, we need a boycott. Let's get rid of Ira and put in a black journalist. That's right, black journalist for Science Friday. Ira, you're boring. Let's turn now towards the search for a vaccine. When we can expect a vaccine and has your view changed on this? I don't even know what that question means. Has your view changed on this? What, a vaccine? No, my view hasn't changed. So let me just reiterate it again. We're going to go into an advanced phase three trial in the beginning of the summer with more than one candidate. We. Yeah. Oh yeah. We. Me, Bill, Gavi. That's the vaccine alliance that he's a part of. CDC. I read on Wikipedia, so I don't know if it's true.

47:55 There is one person responsible for green lighting vaccines inside the NIH. And I should actually pull that article up. And it has a very particular title. Let me just see if I can find this real quick. I actually had it in the show notes for a while. Here we go. Is that one person actually just a rubber stamp with the word yes on it? I believe so. It is, let's see, the Department of Bioethics at the National Institute of Health of the Health Clinical Center which makes decisions and gives green lights on vaccines. The green light is what I call it. The person currently in charge is Christine Grady. According to the Wikipedia, she's married to Fauci.

48:53 What? Yeah, so there's a couple articles. It's on Wikipedia. So I mean this claim of it, you look it up on Wikipedia on this Christine Grady's page and it says she's Anthony Fauci's wife. And she serves as the chief in charge of bioethics, in other words, the person who gets to make decisions on exceptions, oh I'm sorry, exceptions to FDA rules when it comes to things like drugs and vaccines. They're all of course accepted. They're not all drugs, but vaccines are of course indemnified. Along with other exceptions to the normally alleged transparent process that is supposed to take place before drugs and other things get into American marketplace. You gotta get rid of this indemnification thing.

49:35 Yeah, but then we'll never have vaccines. That's the problem. And we'll never have vaccines. And Grady is married to Anthony. We have all the good vaccines already. Grady is married to Anthony Fauci and they have three daughters together. It's right there in her Wikipedia. So I guess she's in charge of, or at least has a role in approving these things and she doesn't even have the Fauci name. Yeah, that's a good trick. Yeah, the, I can, you know, you know where the scandal is? Which one? Well, the one that I think would be the good one to come up with. What vaccinations have the daughters had? Did they get HPV? Did they get all these 800 vaccines you need by the time you're three? I'd like to know. That's like this, just like Steve Jobs not letting his kids use an iPad, which is true. Yeah, that is true. That's just evil, man. No kids. Here's an abacus. Shut up. Here's some paper. Draw daddy a picture.

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Vaccine Hesitancy, Community Outreach Strategies

Dr. Fauci outlined plans for large-scale Phase 3 vaccine trials involving tens of thousands of participants by late 2020. He expressed concern over "anti-science" attitudes and vaccine hesitancy, suggesting that "community outreach" is necessary to ensure public participation.

vaccine· phase three trials· measles· anti-science· bill gates

50:35 All right, back to Science Friday. Fauci Friday on NPR. My view hasn't changed, so let me just reiterate it again. We're going to go into an advanced phase three trial in the beginning of the summer with more than one candidate. And it's going to be a very large trial involving tens of thousands of individuals. And we hope that by the time we get into the mid to late fall, If things work out okay, and we don't get into any unanticipated speed bumps, that by the end of this calendar year, in the beginning of 2021, that we will have a vaccine or maybe more than one vaccine that we'll be able to deploy and utilize to protect people.

51:22 Yeah. Are you worried that we will see hesitancy from people about getting the vaccine driven by misinformation? It's like it sounds like Kermit the Frog there. I can't see. I know you think it would be a good thing. Liferating already. Yeah, that's always a worry that I have. I read this book. We have this of making you do what you want. Liferating already. Yeah, that's always a worry that I have, Ira. You know, it dates back to the vaccine hesitancy around measles that we saw resulted in the unfortunate rebound and resurgence of measles in a country that had essentially eliminated measles. I'm always concerned about the general anti-science attitude and particularly the anti-vaccine attitude. So what we have to do

52:16 is we have to intensify what we call community outreach to be very transparent. It's called propaganda, Fauci. You can call it community outreach, but I understand what you're saying. Well, he's not talking about the propaganda part. He's just talking about jabbing it in. It's like, here we go. We're reaching out to your forearm, to your upper arm. That's right. Vaccine attitude. So what we have to do. And we call it community outreach. Forced vaccinations or community outreach. is we have to intensify what we call community outreach, to be very transparent with the community, to talk to them about the trials, to ensure that in the conduct of trials, we don't compromise safety

53:02 and we don't compromise scientific integrity. Unlike you, I believe that the mainly because of the swine flu episode that I got to see the lines People will be jumping on this. Of course they will. Fauci has got a negative attitude. He's been around too many skeptics. Yeah. The public will jump all over. They'll want the vaccine. I agree with you. They're ready for it. Yeah, I'm ready. Mr. Gates. Jab it in me. Needed Bill. Dr. Bill. Save us, Dr. Bill.

CHAPTER 18 / 49 Discussion

NPR Host Diversity, Ira Flatow Criticism

The hosts critique Ira Flatow's performance and his statement on diversity, suggesting that if he truly believes in his message, he should step down to allow a Black journalist to host Science Friday. The discussion mocks the typical NPR broadcasting style and the "virtue signaling" found in public radio.

npr· ira flatow· diversity· broadcasting· black lives matter

53:49 So, there you go. But I think our conclusion of this little episode is the same. We need Ira replaced with a black journalist. Is this the only show Ira does or does he have other shows? I don't know. He's gotta go. He's gotta go. He himself mentioned it. At the beginning of the show he signed his own, sealed his fate. Really? I think so. Well, let's listen to that beginning. We need more black voices. This is Science Friday. I'm Ira Flatow. Ain't you. I want to talk about something for a few minutes. By the way, back in the day, this guy's audition tape, you and I would have been... Yeah, next.

54:31 Oh, he'd been out. He's not gonna get on my air? Well, here's what'll make it fair. New auditions for the host. Now he may own the show, so that's not gonna happen. Oh, okay. Well, then they should remove the show. No, then we should create a new one and remove the show. We'll have Mo host it. It's gonna be great. Anybody? Yeah, Mo would be good. Now the point is that you have a guy who you just say you start over, say okay yeah no we're not firing you we're just gonna do new auditions and let the best man win. It's like quarterbacks in the NFL you know you you know a new guy comes along and he's better than you you get put on the bench. And we'll have a very diverse panel

55:16 Blue ribbon panel It'll be completely diverse. We'll have a white guy We'll have a white guy a woman a black guy a black woman some trans. What else can we throw in? OJ well just throw some stuff in there. OJ and a couple of Chinese guys Let me listen the rest of that this is science Friday. I'm Ira Plato I want to talk about something for a few minutes before we get started today. Okay here at team Sci-Fi We support the side demanding racial justice because black lives matter We know in the long history of science Friday we haven't included diverse voices as much as we should have and

56:01 As a media platform with a large audience, we recognize our equally large responsibility to act in service of social good. I don't hear him saying black voices anywhere, so... He said black voices! Right this you've missed it was the sentence before that last one is as much as we should have as a media platform with a large Black Lives Matter We know in the long history of science Friday. We haven't included diverse voices as much as we should have diverse voice We have not included no because that's systemic racism, bro, because you're in charge. You're the boss You know you need to have a vote

56:39 Goodbye, Ira. You know what's good for him? The noodle gun. Pull out the noodle gun. Here we go. That's my noodle gun. Well, he is the executive producer, so he probably owns this show. That explains why he's the host. Listen, man, we can... Because you said it a minute ago. He's not qualified. He's got the wrong kind of voice. It's not even a good NPR voice. Wrong skin color. He sounds like this. Of course he used the Black Lives Matter slogan. And Moe caught something. We did a whole deconstruction on Moe Facts about the Black Lives Matter and it's something I suggest people can listen to if they have the time.

CHAPTER 19 / 49 Discussion

George Floyd Death, Minneapolis Mayor Signaling

Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey's initial statement following the death of George Floyd is analyzed for its repetitive use of the phrase "his life mattered." The hosts suggest this was a coordinated signal to activate Black Lives Matter and Antifa groups for a planned insurrection.

george floyd· minneapolis· jacob frey· keith ellison· antifa

57:26 I like that show. But on this show, I will steal a clip from that show because Mo identified something very interesting to the setup for this entire thing after the George Floyd death. So it has nothing to do with how that was set up or not or triggered is irrelevant. We got a dead black guy and a very guilty looking cop with some other cops. And I think Floyd was officially pronounced dead at nine in the evening. The next morning, 6.45 a.m., is when the very frazzled Jacob, what's his name? Fry, the mayor of Minneapolis, made a statement. And it was in this very short statement, and of course I didn't catch it, Mo did, that it was very clear that this... and remember, there's no Black Lives Matter, nothing had happened. I mean, yes, something had happened, but, you know,

58:24 We had that one very unrestful night, and this is what the mayor came out and said. And these things, of course, are not off the cuff. They're written, they're discussed, and no mayor goes out and speaks in front of crowds or in general, in front of crowds or the media without having run, especially not this guy, I think, without having run it by some of his people. Here we go. For the better part of the night, I've been trying to find the words to describe what happened. And all I keep coming back to is that he should not have died. What we saw was horrible. Completely and utterly messed up. This man's life matters. One. He matters. Two. He was someone's son. Someone's family member. He was someone's friend. I think we need to wrap it up. One more for good measure.

59:32 He was a human being and his life mattered. Three. There's your three. That's all you need. In 20 seconds, three times mattered, mattered, mattered. He was setting it up. That was signaling. Totally. That was the message. Let's go. BLM, saddle up. Well, everybody knows this was all pre... I mean, this is though Antifa, who is the radical arm of Black Lives Matter, Had everything in place because they do all these spontaneous demonstrations were just too Coincidental all in Democrat held mayorships areas and governor's democratically controlled towns You had Oakland San Francisco locally you had Austin. Yep, I think I guess Philly

1:00:25 I don't know about Baltimore, Chicago for sure. We're all hell broke loose and that was all triggered. It's the same. All happened at the same time, very coordinated. It was an insurrection. It was a shot, but again, you and I have discussed this part of it, may have been a little too soon. Oh no, I think they're way too soon. Although it is now perfectly timed Yeah, for a second go-round. Yeah, and the second go-round will be, it'll be up to Ellison, Keith Ellison, the Attorney General, because all you need to do is let the cops off at the right moment. I mean, he determines when it goes to trial, he's going to set that all up. I would say, October surprise anybody?

1:01:04 And, uh, you know, they're asking for murder two, which is by itself, uh, I think wrong. Should be one, but okay. No, no, no. Murder three. It should be murder three. They can, they can convict on three. They can't convict on one. No, I'm just telling you what it really should be is one. Oh, you mean for him? Yeah. Yeah. Hey, it's not over yet. They could jack it up to murder one, which is a guaranteed that he's going to get off. You know, you can put it to, you can, you can give it so that you can make it so the jury can choose. But I don't think in Minnesota that's possible. I think if you put them up for murder one, they have to convict on murder one. They can't back it off. You can't step it down. We're going to give him murder three. We're going to downgrade to windows 95. Can't do that. Yeah. They can't go, but can downgrade. Can't do that.

1:01:50 like you did. So, but either way October will be a great time, end of October just before the elections, get everyone crazy, let's make sure that we can't go out because of the riots, that's why mail-in votes. This is why, this can be stopped and it would be stopped by the by the feds coming in and taking over the cases as some sort of a... Like FBI could, federal case could take over whatever's happening. Yeah, make it a federal case. Well, that maybe all that have to put it's not their jurisdiction. They have to do something to know though. There's civil rights violation. They is Okay, okay, you can go in there and take it over But they're not doing it well, you got to wonder why what the hell is going on doesn't seem like No agenda tours, they don't think ever the second go around it. It trumps flat-footed. I

CHAPTER 20 / 49 Discussion

Tom Fitton Judicial Watch, Hillary Clinton Emails

Tom Fitton of Judicial Watch criticized Attorney General Bill Barr and the Justice Department for failing to hold Hillary Clinton accountable for her deleted emails. Despite numerous lawsuits and Freedom of Information Act requests, Fitton claims the government remains corrupt and protective of political elites.

tom fitton· judicial watch· hillary clinton· bill barr· justice department

1:02:41 And Barr's got other things on his plate. He's, you know, still working on the Michael Flynn stuff, trying to get that to work out. You know, I got a problem, not just me, but Barr seems to, I don't know what he's doing. He must be doing something really important. But if you listen to Tom Fitton from Judicial Watch, who has been going after Hillary Clinton and the lost, you know, the deleted, not the lost, the deleted emails that she deleted, the BlackBerrys she had smashed up with hammers, the server she had completely wiped. So this was supposed to happen, they were supposed to get her in to testify, and apparently something's gone awry because Tom Fitton is pissed! One would have concerned about the misconduct, one would have concerned about the accountability. Attorney General Barr...

1:03:27 Why on earth would you let your attorneys come into court and basically dismiss the concerns of tens of millions of Americans at your own Justice Department about the legal activity of Hillary Clinton? I don't understand. Secretary Pompeo, your State Department's taking that legal position as well. But it goes to show you that Judicial Watch, you know, I'm not just here, you know, obviously, you're talking about stuff, but we're doing other things. I'm talking about activity. We're in court. We have probably about 100 lawsuits active now. We've filed probably nearly a thousand by this point, thousands of Freedom of Information Act cases. So once again, it's judicial watch in court doing the heavy lifting to hold Hillary Clinton accountable to the rule of law.

1:04:11 Because Congress doesn't want to do it, the State Department doesn't want to do it, and the Justice Department doesn't want to do it. And he doesn't draw the logical conclusion, that's because they're all corrupt, Tom Fitton. No one wants you uncovering any crap. They definitely don't want off-server emails, because everyone's got one of those. They want no part of uncovering what really happened, because they know they're next. Corruption is our problem. Corruption in law enforcement, corruption in the medical system, of course corruption in politics, the educational system. Corruption! It's true! You think about it, that's the problem, not racism. It's true! It's corruption. Meanwhile Adam Housley on Twitter, who has a blue checkmark so it must mean something, says criminal referrals have already been sent to the Justice Department and the overall number may reach as many as

1:05:06 16 to 17 by the end of the week I was hoping for thousands investigators are working on additional ones as we speak thousands of sealed indictments on the way 16 or 17 well that could include some important ones you don't know could could happen I'm not holding my breath. I'd like to do a little quick little rundown on the on the noodle gun that we discussed because I have some updates and some new cases I think we should keep on our radar and I will start. You're on a roll, you might as well stay on a roll. Okay, because then I'll be rolled out.

CHAPTER 21 / 49 Discussion

Noodle Boy Concept, Cancel Culture Origins

The "Noodle Boy" archetype is defined as a young, entitled worker who uses social media to pressure corporations into adopting "woke" ideologies. This movement is linked to ActBlue and the broader cancel culture that shames companies into compliance through virtue signaling.

noodle boy· cancel culture· actblue· black lives matter· social media

1:05:48 So the noodle gun, some people didn't understand it. Well, just do a quick recap. You better re-explain it because it needs to be explained because this is a major new development in the show's memes. Yes. So Noodle Nation... Oh, Noodle Boy's not new, but the Noodle Gun is new. So Noodle Nation is where we all live and Noodle Nation are the... it's comprised of Noodle Boys and Noodle Girls. And who is a Noodle Boy is exactly what you heard with Occupy Wall Street, but we have a very specific example. I'm not going to play it again. You can hear it on the last show. Where it's like, hey man, it's not fair. I work at noodles and we should have more say and the owner should, you know, like let us make decisions and run the... It's just completely out of his gourd thinking that it's unfair that they tell you what to do and as a worker you have to do it. He literally said things like that.

1:06:39 So this, and this was 10 years ago or nine years ago. So we identified this as not a very good trend amongst young people. And these young people are of course the ones that are now out. with good heart and good intent saying yeah yeah hey hey ho ho racism's gotta know send my skateboard and weed money to Black Lives Matter which of course is routed directly into ActBlue which is to help re- to elect Joe Biden and re-elect Democrats is not really going towards a bailout fund some may but not those And they've discovered, the Noodle Boys and Girls of Noodle Nation, that with social media and cell phones you can pressure companies. Well it started with entertainment and it's the cancel culture. You can cancel someone, get them to say what you want, or if someone's not saying anything you just say, oh you know what? Silence is complicity, silence is violence. And you shame someone into saying things. So they've been doing this with companies. Go ahead. Now before you go on any further,

1:07:40 I want to mention that, and I do have one clip about this, I want to mention that I am now looking for the roots of this. And we were getting some email just naturally without me even suggesting it, but I would like to find out where the turn, there's a spot where things switched and these kids took over. And I'm looking for the Genesis. I want to know where, when this happened. It's hard to say. It looks like the beginnings of it started in the universities. Right, but I think the, yes. But when's the first example? I want to, for example, throw one. I want to do a timeline. How about Milo? I would say Milo is one of the first big cancellations. I would go way before Milo and go to Paula Deen. Paula Deen, okay. I mean, we can go back, as far back as you want, but the point- Well, I want to make a list. I want to make a huge list of the- Okay.

1:08:33 Hall of shame. What's important now is that the noodle boys and girls are in these companies and I might as well tell this part of the story as well. The marketing and advertising firms who have been trolling through Twitter for years have decided that in the past sometimes it was leopard print's gonna be the new trend or you know, purple is the new black or come up with anything. Woke, it was virtue signaling and wokeness was the trend. And so all the big brands who took the advice from their advertising companies and their marketing professionals started to do woke stuff. You know, I'll give you an example. I have some wokeness here from Tim Cook.

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Tim Cook Apple Racial Justice Initiative

Apple CEO Tim Cook announced a $100 million Racial Equity and Justice Initiative, using a presentation style compared to an iPhone launch. The hosts argue that this corporate virtue signaling will eventually backfire as internal "Noodle Boys" demand more radical changes within the company.

tim cook· apple· racial justice· alabama· iphone

1:09:22 From Apple. Hello everyone. Hello everyone. The unfinished work of racial justice and equality call us all to account now and always Growing up in Alabama during the civil rights movement, I saw firsthand that the only thing that ever made lasting and durable change was people of goodwill putting aside comfort and safety to speak up, to march, to call for accountability and to do what they could to make a flawed society more perfect. Pay real close attention to Tim Collins here because this is going to come, all of this will come back to haunt him. So it is today.

1:10:00 We're at an important moment in our history. A time when progress, which has been far too slow, feels suddenly poised to move forward in a great leap. Each of us has a role to play in making sure we rise to the occasion. Things must change, and Apple's committed to being a force for that change. Today, I'm proud to announce Apple's... He did that, you know, this... Did you hear that announcement? I did not. He could have said to make that change. Today, I'm proud to announce the latest in our iPhone lineup, iPhone 99. Listen, it's the same cadence. Things must change and Apple's committed to being a force for that change. Today, I'm proud to announce Apple's racial equity and justice initiative with a $100 million commitment.

1:10:55 It's just like announcing an iPhone. He doesn't give a crap. You're absolutely correct. It sounds just like you could have actually if you would add a little more time. I could have cut it right in, couldn't I? The new iPhone. I bet you it would fit perfectly. The point is that there are people who work within Apple and these people within Apple are going to see inequities and what is this the Apple? What's the actually funky name by the way? Let's listen to the name. And the today I'm proud to announce Apple's racial equity and justice initiative. Racial equity and justice initiative. Sounds like you ain't getting nothing. Doesn't it sound interesting? Cause when he says and justice sounds like injustice, it sounds like racial injustice. I sent the note to Mo. He said, we can, we better get some, some bank from Tim Collins over there. Send us some money to the podcast, man.

1:11:47 There are people inside Apple who are going to see inequality. Of course there's inequality. Certainly within Apple, do they have the same amount of men as women? Maybe. Enough trans? Maybe. Are the bathrooms okay? No. How about black people? How about brown people? No. Believe me, it's too low. And so they are going... They are going to get shamed and yeah, and this virtue signaling will come down on him Tim Cook should watch his six. It's gonna come for a number of reasons watching these shows on television shows I'm trying to watch World War two movies take my mind off of stuff so

1:12:35 This is gonna hurt the brand at some point. Oh, yeah It's gonna be it's gonna be not cool. They have an Apple phone and here it comes It's gonna be that's gonna be the the noodle gun is gonna hit you right in the face Tim now There's a whole bunch of just laid low there are a whole bunch that are on deck but first I Two minor things the crossfit ceo. I got a number of emails from people who thought I was being horrible about this But I went back and listened. Um, uh, What were you being horrible? What did they say to you? Well, they they confused the virtue signaling, uh, Noodle gun with my example of hey the crossfit ceo had to resign now. He of course he's the owner so it doesn't really mean anything and

1:13:23 And if you look deeper into the CEO of CrossFit, he's a very interesting guy and is probably very no agenda oriented. And people thought that I was saying he was a virtue signal. No, I said he had to make a move in this case maybe didn't make a lot of difference to his organization, but he was very vulnerable. He did that not just because of hassle, because people were canceling. So, and all he really tweeted was Floyd 19, but there was a lot more that he's been involved in and seems like actually, as I said, a kind of a no agenda guy. But here's another example. As you know, we talked about anthropology and anthropology, big virtue signaling, big Black Lives Matter. Oh, we love them so much. But now the rumor going around, oh no, we're canceling anthropology because they use the word Nick. They use the word Nick for black people in the store. You need to watch those Nicks.

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CrossFit CEO Resignation, Anthropologie "Nick" Controversy

The CEO of CrossFit resigned following a controversial tweet, while the clothing brand Anthropologie faced false accusations of using a racial slur. It is clarified that the term "Nick" used in Anthropologie stores is a British slang term for theft, not a derogatory reference to Black customers.

crossfit· anthropologie· urban outfitters· retail· racial slurs

1:12:35 This is gonna hurt the brand at some point. Oh, yeah It's gonna be it's gonna be not cool. They have an Apple phone and here it comes It's gonna be that's gonna be the the noodle gun is gonna hit you right in the face Tim now There's a whole bunch of just laid low there are a whole bunch that are on deck but first I Two minor things the crossfit ceo. I got a number of emails from people who thought I was being horrible about this But I went back and listened. Um, uh, What were you being horrible? What did they say to you? Well, they they confused the virtue signaling, uh, Noodle gun with my example of hey the crossfit ceo had to resign now. He of course he's the owner so it doesn't really mean anything and

1:13:23 And if you look deeper into the CEO of CrossFit, he's a very interesting guy and is probably very no agenda oriented. And people thought that I was saying he was a virtue signal. No, I said he had to make a move in this case maybe didn't make a lot of difference to his organization, but he was very vulnerable. He did that not just because of hassle, because people were canceling. So, and all he really tweeted was Floyd 19, but there was a lot more that he's been involved in and seems like actually, as I said, a kind of a no agenda guy. But here's another example. As you know, we talked about anthropology and anthropology, big virtue signaling, big Black Lives Matter. Oh, we love them so much. But now the rumor going around, oh no, we're canceling anthropology because they use the word Nick. They use the word Nick for black people in the store. You need to watch those Nicks.

1:14:12 And this was taken by American under-informed over-socialized children as an N-word and a racial slur. Anthropology is part of Urban Outfitters. It is a publicly listed company. They take this very seriously. And several of our producers reached out, and this producer's wife worked with them, worked at Urban or in the anthropology for 10 years. Nick was used but had nothing to do with black people. It was a word to describe someone who was going to nick something. The British term Nick. Yeah, steal. That's an old British term. And it's a Mr. Nick or Mrs. Nicole. Not Nick as in negro or other N words. And one of our producers sent in an exact example of how this would sound over the headsets at Anthropologie.

1:15:04 Hey guys, just wanted to let you know Nick's in the store and he's in the second section. He's just looking at some shirts and just wanted to let you know keep an eye on him. Let him go over and see if he needs some extra help. He's a great customer. So this term has been used in their stores for years. And now all of a sudden people think, oh, the under-informed, over-socialized children are like, they are the racists. They have racist thinking. Racist thinking. So that's just clearing that up. Now let's look at some of the noodle gun hits and misses. I think the Merriam-Webster dictionary, we consider that a noodle gun hit. I think they nailed it.

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Noodle Gun Targets, Paw Patrol and Howard Stern

The "Noodle Gun" of cancel culture has targeted various entities, including the cartoon Paw Patrol for featuring a police dog and Howard Stern for past use of blackface. Other targets include John Cleese's Fawlty Towers and a Berkeley College of Music apology for allowing police to use their restrooms.

paw patrol· howard stern· john cleese· colin kaepernick· starbucks

1:15:49 You probably read after the last show that Colin Kaepernick has interest from an NFL team. Colin Kaepernick has a team interested in him. Do you know which one? Have you heard anything about it? Seattle probably. He'll play man. No he won't. Anyway, that's not a noodle gun yet. It's on deck. They're working on it. He's been on deck at Seattle before and then they nixed it and they said okay now they're gonna do it because of the local politics. Man you really shouldn't say nix. That's really... be careful you'll be canceled in two seconds. Here comes noodle gun. Yeah well...

1:16:26 John Cleese, besides Monty Python, had another very successful series, Faulty Towers. Yeah, that's been removed from streaming sites because of course British humor from 35 years ago is no longer funny, it's racist. Cornell professors declare informed commentary criticizing the protests as racism against one of their own professors. They want him fired. UCLA professor is actually under police protection following threats. He is the one... let's see, what did he not want to do?

1:17:06 He declined a student's request for a delay of a final exam in light of national unrest. So fire that guy. Howard Stern under fire for past use of blackface and use of the n-word. We all saw it back in the day. Starbucks, of course, a total direct hit as the Black Lives Matter attire is permitted. You predicted that on Thursday. Ice Cube, even the left, I would say pretty radical left Ice Cube rapmeister extraordinaire is angry. Angry about Paw Patrol being cancelled. The cartoon Paw Patrol was cancelled because one of the dogs is a cop. Noodle Gun, direct hit.

1:17:57 YouTube is also creating a 100 million dollar fund, quote, dedicated to amplifying and developing the voices of black creators. Woohoo! That's not the end of it for you, YouTube. That's gonna end very poorly. You will be called out as horrible racist, misappropriation of funds, you're not gonna win, there's too many noodle boys and girls inside your organization. Oh, it's loaded. St. John's immediately fires fencing coach after recording of racist comment leaks. No idea what he said. Berkeley College of Music apologizes for allowing Boston police to use restrooms during protests. Oh no, noodle gun. Well, that's pathetic. The entire Florida City... Were they supposed to do pee on the street? Yeah, the entire Florida City SWAT team resigned after the police chief kneeled with protesters. Police chief noodle gunned.

1:18:51 On deck I already said we have the stem. We got the stem. We also have... what else do we have? Shoot, I thought we had one more. Anyway, so that's just what's on deck now. You can wait for... you just keep your eyes open. It's everywhere. It's happening around you. Well, there's a actually a podcast that specializes in this now. Oh really? And they had this woman who does the podcast, Katie Herzog, who's a lefty on the Jay Rantz show, which is a T, which is actually a radio show up in Seattle. And she's lived in the, in the Chaz zone and talks a little bit about it here, but she this is got kind of got me into this finding out the origins of this turnaround because at some point there was a critical mass of the noodle boys as you like to put them.

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Katie Herzog, Postmodernism in Academia

Journalist Katie Herzog discusses how radical academic theories like postmodernism and critical theory have moved from college campuses into major institutions. She cites the pulping of Woody Allen's memoir by Hachette staffers as an example of the new authoritarian power held by young employees.

katie herzog· foucault· postmodernism· academia· woody allen

1:19:37 Or the noodle gun and she's also looking for it too and she's and she comes from a left-wing perspective and she's quite irked about the whole situation. I got this clip from the show. Where is this coming from on the left in particular? Is it generational or is it purely ideological ideological or maybe a little bit of both? I think it's I think it's both. A lot of people would argue that this is something that really started a long time ago with Foucault and postmodernism and critical theory. So it started in academia and has really merged or really spread from there. Colleges were doing trigger warnings and things like that, you know, probably even ten years ago, probably even longer in some schools, like places like Oberlin, I would imagine. And, you know, people like me and you would talk about how this is a problem, this sort of safetyism, this cancer culture, call-out culture on college campuses. And a lot of people, particularly on the left,

1:20:29 Would respond and say like they're just college kids college kids have always been crazy, which is true But the problem is they don't stay on campus and now these people have entered institutions and in some cases they are taking over those institutions Senior senior people and I do support workers rights. I think workers should have power as well, but they're they're focusing their power in ways that comes across as incredibly authoritarian. And so if you make one mistake currently or in your path, you know, you can be in danger of having basically, you know, a mob of people in their 20s and 30s or sometimes older walk out on your business. You know, like Heschel, the publisher of Woody Allen's memoir,

1:21:11 cancelled his book, actually pulped his book. It had been printed and actually pulped his book, costing him I don't know how much money because staffers at the publishing house didn't want that book published. It's absurd. You talk about an instance of something similar, although way crazier, with a grocer out of Minnesota who ends up losing the lease to his building, essentially over something that was said a very, very long time ago. It's a problem and people, you know, we've become programmed to respond to an outrageous headline. And it's very easy. The oh so diverse Apple actually makes black workers go to a separate bathroom, something like that.

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Salesforce Shareholder Meeting, Viewpoint Discrimination

During a Salesforce shareholder call, a representative from the National Center for Public Policy Research challenged CEO Marc Benioff on "viewpoint discrimination" against conservative employees. The company had previously petitioned the SEC to block a proposal that would protect employees from ideological discrimination.

salesforce· marc benioff· viewpoint discrimination· sec· alphabet

1:22:00 It doesn't have to be true. It doesn't even have to be true. And a public company can... So this is not necessarily a racial issue but... It's a trader's delight, let me tell you right now. Well, thank you for saying that. Salesforce had their... I guess their quarterly call would that make sense already to their quarterly call? They do quarterly calls. It must be their quarterly, which means the CEO is on but also the CFO and clearly someone from HR as a very interesting and when you report your numbers, you sit down as a big phone conference

1:22:37 And typically it's analysts calling in and say, hey guys, great queue, way to go. Jay, really fantastic. Listen, I have a question about the deferred stock option. You know, some other bull crap they're trying to figure out that they're trying to figure out the real meaning behind the numbers, etc. Until this one came on and it was so jarring, I guess, to Benioff, who was there to answer, that he was silent and I guess Put it on mute, motion to his HR lady to pick it up. Your next question is from Justin Danoff of the National Center for Public Policy Research. And Salesforce is a very valuable company. I mean, the stock price moving on Salesforce makes a difference for a lot of people, including people with 401ks at this point.

1:23:17 For today's annual meeting, he filed a shareholder resolution with the goal of having Salesforce amend its Equal Employment Opportunity, EEO, policy to protect employees from potential viewpoint discrimination. So what I think this guy is saying is, hey, you know, at the shareholders meeting, we entered in We put a shareholders resolution, we wanted something, and so he's addressing that now on this call. Rather than doing so, the company petitioned the SEC, arguing that it was within its ordinary business operation to discriminate against its employees based on their ideological views. This is very important because we have something new. He says the company denied the shareholder proposal.

1:24:02 and appealed to the Securities Exchange Commission and said, we do not want that. We feel our business model sometimes requires us to be discriminatory against different viewpoints. I think this is a very important, if this ever goes to trial or if anything ever happens, Because here we're talking about something not new in concept, but it has a name. Viewpoint discrimination. It's new. Given Silicon Valley's well-known liberal leadings combined with Salesforce CEO Mark Benioff's far-left public-facing statements and action taken on behalf of the company, we are concerned that conservatives may face a hostile work environment at the company. Furthermore, the company is ignoring the financial risks of viewpoint discrimination.

1:24:49 Alphabet recently ended a year's long lawsuit for firing a conservative engineer. Given all this, will you commit today to amend Salesforce EEO policy to explicitly protect against discrimination based on viewpoint and ideology? So I like this clip because it shows that this works both ways. Here's someone who clearly represents a different viewpoint, a right-wing or conservative viewpoint, is now saying, hey, look at these other companies who have been sued. Is that really what you want, Mark Benioff? Or will you... That's what he's saying. Or will you... You know, I just have to mention some irony here. Is that going back again on my preoccupation with the origins of this.

1:25:31 We have to remember that it was the family council or some other thing that used to do cancel culture against TV shows back in the 60s and 70s and maybe the 80s. And they would do, you know, they would and they were right wingers going after shows that had any left-wing bias whatsoever. And they would get the shows canceled by going after the advertisers. And then that kind of died down because they were kind of crackpotty. And it was picked up by the left that the left bitched and moaned about this, but they decided now they're going to do it. This is just OK. I have a good clip later that kind of talks about the ludicrous nature of this swap. Well, let's do it now because I just got a couple seconds left on this. So there's the silence, which is a good 10 seconds, eight seconds before anyone spoke. And you know what's going on. It's on mute and Benioff is going, you answer that HR lady. You're absolutely correct. If you were in the room there, Benioff's eyes had opened up. He was going,

1:26:31 You know doing a throat slash thing and hitting his button and pointing at somebody with radically, you know violently pointing at the HR person and pointing pointing pointing you're up and then motioning Exactly yeah, you really don't want to be in HR at the moment that that question comes here we go Great, thanks Mr. Danoff for your question and your interest in the company. We have a long-standing belief that it's important to have diverse set of views and policies within our company and our employees reflect that. It is very important to our company, it's important to our values that have long stood by us at the company.

1:27:16 And we continue to believe in those. As we pointed out in our proxy and through the proposal, we believe that the proposal that was presented was not appropriate for the proxy to appear. Yeah. Bloody, bloody, bloody Bob. But I'm telling you, viewpoint discrimination will be a thing. It's a horrible name, but I think it will catch it because it's also VD. I like that. Hey man, that's VD. Well, if you're gonna start going down the road they've gone, which is what we've been talking about for the last half hour. It has to go further. You can't stop walking. Yes, this is much bigger than anyone realized. What first was just cancel culture is something much bigger.

1:28:03 Benioff's afraid. He's afraid. You can say he isn't. He has more money than he needs, but he doesn't want this hassle. But they're in your own company, man. It's normal. You have a group of people that have different ideas. But if you're going to virtue signal, and I have to give Noodle Boy some respect, it's like you're not really representing all the views. You should either shut up, just do some business, Or put up. Then they can't because inherently it's just word salad. They don't mean a lick of it. Oh, here's a hundred million dollars. Tim Cook could drop his wallet, a hundred million could fall out. He wouldn't give a crap. I'm presuming. Well, he might be a tightwad. He only wears the same clothes all the time. I know man. Working at Apple is cheap. You only wear a turtleneck and you're good to go.

CHAPTER 27 / 49 Discussion

Glenn Greenwald, Michael Flynn Case Abuses

Glenn Greenwald discusses the Michael Flynn case, noting the irony of liberals supporting the FBI after decades of criticizing the agency. He highlights that liberal icons like Ruth Bader Ginsburg previously argued that lying to the FBI should not be a crime, yet now support the prosecution of Flynn.

glenn greenwald· michael flynn· fbi· ruth bader ginsburg· justice department

1:29:02 So well, I don't know where this is headed, but obviously it's gonna be a point of good of discussion for the show. Yes, for sure. For sure. I do have a couple things that we kind of offset that. Yeah. These notions. Now let's do this. Let's... I have two clips. I thought I had two here. I should have dug this up. Glenn Greenwald was on The Rising and Is that the crystal ball show? Yeah, okay, you know and It's the Chris was the Christmas Sagar. They go who I think is more entertaining But he let's he does a thing on on Flynn which brings in a number of these points Greenwald who's an old-school progressive Wisely lives in Brazil Yes, he

1:29:58 He's like some of these other guys. We had these radical lefties on some clips a couple years ago saying, I don't understand why the progressives and the left are all cuddling up to the FBI and the CIA all of a sudden, and they're all in with this kind of thing. It doesn't make any sense historically. And Greenwald has some similar thoughts here on this Flynn update. The case of Michael Flynn. You know, you saw Glenn, I mean, you've covered here and we've had Matt Taibbi and others just about the abuses in the cases, in the case against Flynn, and regardless of how you feel about Flynn himself personally. Now we're seeing some developments going on with the judge. I just want to give the audience a quick update on that. What can you tell us about

1:30:39 This judge seems to be declaring that the Department of Justice wanting to drop a charge against Flynn is an abuse of power by the Department of Justice itself. Yeah, it's really bizarre, you know, for years the idea that lying to the FBI was even a crime at all. was a kind of reactionary view of the criminal justice system and liberals were the ones leading the way in denouncing it. I think we talked about before that the jurist who wrote probably the most compelling opinion about why lying to the FBI should not be a crime is named Ruth Bader Ginsburg. And the person who went further than her refusing to even... And that's just recent, didn't she just write that?

1:31:19 No, I don't know when it was. I thought it was recent. I think it was older, but it just... Well, it's within the last 87 years. Yeah, I agree with that. But it's always good to note that the lying to the FBI, which everybody's now all, oh, he lied to the FBI, all these liberals are saying this when in fact the liberals are the ones that always thought this was bogus. You say liberals with such disdain. Liberals. You just hate them. Oh man. The FBI should not be a crime. His name is Ruth Bader Ginsburg. And the person who went further than her, refusing to even recognize it as a crime despite the law saying that it was, was John Paul Stevens. So it was always a left-wing liberal view that lying to the FBI shouldn't even be a crime. And what's interesting is that now you have a judge who is refusing something extremely rare, which is the Justice Department saying, we were overzealous in our prosecution. We want to drop a lying to the FBI

1:32:18 prosecution and liberals are acting like this is some great threat to the republic and what judge walton did is he had john gleason who i know very well he's a former district judge a former federal judge um from brooklyn from the eastern district of new york in front of whom i practiced when i was a lawyer who was known as he was used to be a prosecutor he was always he's always been a very pro prosecutorial judge which is why they selected him now essentially advocating for I don't know for whom, for the judge, I guess, in saying that the prosecution against Michael Flynn should continue even though the Justice Department has concluded that it was unjust. Imagine how threatening that is to just the basic rights of a defendant. We want prosecutors to drop prosecutions when they conclude that it's unjust. For the judge now to say, we're not going to let you is an incredible abuse of the criminal justice system, which liberals are supposed to be working to weaken, not strengthen.

CHAPTER 28 / 49 Discussion

New York Times Journalists, Twitter Bias

The shift in modern journalism is attributed to "Noodle Boy" reporters from outlets like BuzzFeed and Vox moving to the New York Times. These journalists are accused of using their personal Twitter accounts to amplify biased narratives and force out editors who do not share their radical views.

new york times· buzzfeed· twitter· journalism· bon appetit

1:33:13 So it hit me, listening to this, and Glenn Greenwald would be the guy to figure it out. The genesis of all this is really the noodle boys and girls entering the journalistic workforce. And I would say going, dating back at least three years to the Michael, the Steele report, the Russian hooker P report, tape, whatever, that the virtue signaling that and it was really the journalists who made that happen and I'm talking about the ones at BuzzFeed at you know advice at Vox at the verge a lot of these

1:33:57 And they're all on Twitter and they're all checkmarked and they're all outraged and you know if you really who makes the biggest mistakes of shit they say it's the journalists and they always delete their tweets and get rid of it. Somehow there's I think that's really where the change started to happen because they pick up the stuff that's bubbling they amplify it amongst themselves and then they take it to print. Well I'm not subscribing yet but I'll say this I've noticed all these and they're all this journalist within the same age period and many of them are have moved on from BuzzFeed and they're at the New York Times. I know plenty of people that are at the New York Times that started off elsewhere and they got shuffled into the New York Times and they have their Twitter feeds and I can document I've always thought about but it was like overwhelming it couldn't do it.

1:34:48 biased tweets from all these journalists and there's very clear words, oh this is my opinion, okay it's your opinion but you're right there, I said you're a New York Times reporter and your opinion it seems to be that you hate Trump and you don't think that's gonna get into the mix. It's just my opinion, this is my opinion. It's possible that it, I mean let's face it, the journalists have been the progenitors of all of the mess with the lousy reporting, the biased reporting, the jumping on this and jumping on that. Unnamed sources. Right, dubious, yeah right, people who knew, you know, the sources, they're unnamed sources.

1:35:33 And now they're pushing their weight around within the organizations, getting certain editors fired from both the New York Times and Philadelphia Inquirer and elsewhere. Bon Appetit. Oh yes, yes, Bon Appetit, that's right. Yeah, poor guy. And this is stuff that took place years ago. I mean, that Bon Appetit thing, I didn't realize the guy was in brown face, which means he put some bronzer on in 2013 and got fired. Yeah. Oh well. Put some bronzer on. It's a little TV makeup. You're fired. You know, we may not be high-powered people. We may not have high-paying jobs. Man, I feel job security.

CHAPTER 29 / 49 Discussion

Podcast Independence, Cultural Analysis

The hosts reflect on their position as independent podcasters, noting that their lack of corporate affiliation provides them with job security in a climate of cancel culture. They emphasize the importance of their cultural analysis, specifically regarding the changing terminology used in media.

podcasting· media analysis· culture change· independent media

1:36:15 You know what I'm saying? I feel real good about right where we are. We're the two luckiest guys. We're both in regular media. We're in regular media, now we're these mediocre, you know, mediocre or not mediocre, we're the best podcast in the universe, but it's beside the point. We're in a kind of a bubble of podcasting where it's if people stop listening and they start giving us money, we're out of business, but that's not happening. No. We're providing the information that they, everyone knows we're right. This is the issue here. Pretty much. We're right about this stuff. In broad lines, yes. We don't get it always right. Yeah, you screw up and you get the Belgian population off. But generally speaking, when it comes to this sort of analysis of the culture change, which is incredibly important, important,

1:37:10 People know they listen also. It's probably else will talk about this. It's protests. It's not protests anymore. It's protests protests protests protests Yeah, you'll hear everyone say it protests You're gonna go to the protests. Yes. Yeah They're dropping the tea in protests. Yes protests telling you So yes. And you know what? With that, why don't I just thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, the man who just put the sea in culture change, John C. DeVore.

CHAPTER 30 / 49 Discussion

No Agenda Stream, Artwork Submissions

The No Agenda Stream and its associated chat room, known as the "troll room," provide a live listening experience for the community. Artist Darren O'Neill is recognized for his episode artwork depicting history being erased, which was selected from numerous submissions at NoAgendaArtGenerator.com.

no agenda stream· darren o'neill· artwork· crowdsourcing· value for value

1:37:46 Well in the morning to you Mr. Adam Curry, also in the morning to all ships and sea bluets on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there. And a big and hefty hearty in the morning to all of the trolls who have been sitting there since early morning listening to Darren O'Neill with the pre-show and trolling away with each other and let's see how many trolls do we count? 1802. Not bad. That's good to have him there. This is noagendastream.com. which is a great place to go hang out. There's a chat room you can, well it's a chat room, but in there you'll find trolls so that's why we just call it the troll room. If you can name it you can sell it. But

1:38:26 What's cool about it is that's combined with a live stream, noagendastream.com, which is where you find both. So you go there and you can get into the troll room, troll around, listen, and you listen. It's a together experience. So you're listening to the same show together. Could be a podcast previously recorded or one live like this one is at this moment on Sunday. It works, people love it. It's been around for almost as long as the show has been around, maybe a couple of years after we started. And it's at noagendastream.com. When you're in there, ask someone to give you an invite for noagendasocial.com, which is our federated social network. Several thousand people on there and there's always some good information. Very high signal to noise resolution. And then we have a thanks for the artwork for episode 1250.

1:39:13 It was a no-brainer for both of us. We would like to thank Darren O'Neill, who we have concluded is wasting his talent. Darren is so... We've got to find something for Darren to do to make some money. He's so talented. This was the history being erased with a woke eraser. I mean, nailed it. He just nailed it. Yeah. And it's astounding how good he is. And it's not that there wasn't fantastic art from other people. Noagendaartgenerator.com. There was all kinds of great ideas. But it's just like these things pop up. He thinks like an artist. Artists, they conceptualize differently than normal people. Yeah. Yeah, they're not normal, are they? They're not normal. Artists, very rarely. But Darren is, man. He's very, very talented.

1:40:06 And he's just not a great voice. He's got a voice for radio. Well, thank you, Darren O'Neill. We really appreciate it. That was a great piece of art. NoahArtGenerator.com is where you can find all of the submissions. These days we've got 10, 15, 20 artists doing it on the fly while they're at home listening and work. God knows where they're doing these. But we really appreciate it. And of course, these are used in many different places. You can get stuff from there, use the artwork, attribution required, obviously. NoahJendershop.com, they use us all the time. And to reiterate, we have no affiliation with NoahJendershop.com other than

1:40:44 They use stuff from Noah's agenda, ArtGenerator on generator.com, which is also, we don't own any of that. Everyone owns their own stuff, but it's up there. We'd like to see it as open source. It gets onto t-shirts, hoodies, mugs, et cetera. A portion goes to the artists, the shop takes a piece, and they sometimes show up here and give us a piece, so it works. It's value for value. The network is very valuable. We've been building it for a long time and we love thanking people who turn that value that they receive into actual numbers. And tell us about those numbers and we call it our donation segment. Here we go with our executive producers and associate executive producers for episode 1251. Oh, thank you for every hour of that intro. We have Nick Foster at the top of the list.

CHAPTER 31 / 49 Discussion

Executive Producer Nick Foster, Cryptocurrency Career

Nick Foster of Kearney, Missouri, donated $1,683.50 to become a Baron, sharing his story of recovering from financial debt after a cryptocurrency company failure. He credits the "Jobs Karma" from the show for helping him secure a new position and maintain a clear mind during civil unrest.

nick foster· kearney· missouri· cryptocurrency· bitcoin

1:41:29 who donated $1,683.50 from Kearney, Missouri, and because he's over $1,000, that means I'm going to open up a beer and pour myself a glass. Really? Well, it's actually sparkling water. Oh, okay. Now, can you take a sip and go... That's the one thing you actually hate. I do. Of course, who doesn't? He has a note. He's got his little clips for Adam. This is going to be an Al Sharpton dealer. Stop the hammering and a Corona Karma. Dear Crackpot and Buzzkill, I turn a quarter century old on the 14th of June.

1:42:17 My, it's always 25, my donation amount is 1683.50 should bring me to baron status, okay? Insta-baron. Yeah. Well, not insta-baron, but baron. I would like to claim my current hometown of Kearney, Missouri as a territory to rule over. I'm not one to really believe in a higher power or things alike, but I will share a coincidence that can be observed. Last year, a few months before my birthday, I donated asking for jobs, Carmen. This was after the company I was working for in the cryptocurrency space went belly up. I was at the lowest of the low with the, I don't know what to say. I'm just thinking a cryptocurrency company goes belly up. Oh really? No. Holy moly. I was at the lowest of the low with the hugest amount of credit card debt. Oh boy, oh no, no, no, no. Do yourself a favor and just keep one debit card. Debit card, yeah. And just don't get into credit debt. Yeah, don't buy your crypto with credit. It's a rip off.

1:43:15 And it, buy everything cash. Anyway, he goes on and on. He says, a credit card debt and a newly purchased house I could no longer afford. After requesting the jobs, Karma, it seemed like it didn't work for a few months, but out of the blue, when I was bitching to some contacts about my situation, I got a job offer. Possibly the job, Karma, really works. It doesn't necessarily work instantly. Because no one's really asked for the insta job karma because we don't have it I took a job last summer and I'm coming up on a year in a few months while navigating these strange times I've been able to see some places I've never been before and never thought I would ever see all the ex always traveling Yeah, all the experiences I've ever had over the last 36 months Managed to take a new understanding of a lot of topics as I go I would be unfair not to give no agenda some credit for having set my mind up

1:44:02 with the ability to think critically and objectively. I've been listening to Noah Jenner since I was 16 or 17. Wow. Unfortunately, I've had a handful of friends who I've seen their amygdala grow and the critical thinking skills decrease. When I compare my success with others, I've given higher risk and high failure rate of what I have done in the past. I owe so much of my success to being able to have a clear mind. I'm one of the few that enjoys chaos that is good. It's another funny life because you know what? We enjoy it too. We do. We do.

1:44:40 It's fun. It's going on in the world right now. Coronavirus and civil unrest presents a great opportunity for people like me that can keep my head down and work while other people spin their wheels. I hope everyone in the NOAGENDA family can have the same positive outlook on life I have. It is exciting time to be alive and try to get ahead. Peace out. Buy Bitcoin, Nick. Okay, here's what I love about Nick. We've known this young gentleman since he was 16 years old, has grown up with the show, and here he is now becoming an Insta-Baron. I'm very proud of you, Nick, and your journey is your journey, and the road brought you right to where you are today, and I'm very happy to see your enthusiasm. And thank you so much for supporting us. We're glad that you received some value for the past 10 years. Here's what you asked for.

CHAPTER 32 / 49 Discussion

Global Producer Donations, Australian ABC Bias

Donations from producers in Australia, Texas, and Alabama are read, including a critique of the Australian Broadcasting Company (ABC). The Australian producer claims the taxpayer-funded network has a heavy left-wing bias and supports activist movements like Black Lives Matter and Antifa.

australia· waco· alabama· abc australia· donations

1:45:34 R-E-S-P-I-C-T. Stop the hammering! You've got Corona. Now you asked for the Corona, Carbis, and that's up to you. I can't help that. Bill Gressen, Galt's Gulch, Michigan, 500. Galt's Gulch? That's where it is, if you wanted to know. I've been a loyal listener since year one, but I have to say that the shows over the past 10 weeks and especially show 1250 have been pure effing good. Thank you and keep up the great work. You're welcome. Thank you very much. Next on the list is Sir Neville James in North Lambton, New South Wales, 500.

1:46:19 A few shows back, Adam mentioned a show from ABC Australia that may have a hidden agenda, probably not hidden. The ABC TV and radio, which stands for Australian Broadcasting Company, is fully funded by Australian taxpayer dollars and has a charter that decrees fair and balanced reporting. Any agenda is left an activist. Yeah, so what else? What you do when you get free money, you become a lefty. The ABC reports like big media in America on many of the same issues, CNN, ABC, NBC, many presenters and guests are activists, of course. Evidence and fact, what kind of a job is that? And here she is

1:46:56 Joan, Joan and she's an activist. It says activist under under Chiron at the bottom. You recall, you recall one of those mass letters where 2,000 people signed on and said we think it's it's okay for people to protest despite coronavirus and one of the titles was African-American literally. And here's Wendell, African American. Evidence and facts he continues are a minor issue unless it fits the lefty narrative. The ABC is super critical of Trump using Democrat evidence. Of course, they attack or support attacks on conservative women, including the indigenous women. Our conservative government with this

1:47:38 Closet lefties, which is what we have too, by the way. Closet lefties, which caused the trouble, are cowards and do not do anything despite being constantly attacked by presenters. I will let you guess on where the ABC sit and report on the current protests, Black Lives Matter and Antifa Australia. Yeah, it's not organized, but there's an Antifa Australia. But there's also Black Lives Matter. And it's no longer about American white cops killing black American people. No. It's all local now. It's a political party. Now it's all local. Nancy Nichols is next on the list. By the way, our list is top-heavy today. We want to thank everyone for helping us. $333.33 in Waco, Texas. The donations did well without Karen involved. Thank you and keep doing what you do to keep us educated and informed. Shout out to my amazing boyfriend, Don, who introduced me to the Texas Chili Parlor and No Agenda.

1:48:37 He fights bullshit every day on many fronts and inspires me to do the same. Sounds like a great guy, Nancy. And thank you very much for supporting the work here. 330-333 also comes in from Sir Laron Dothan in Dothan, Alabama. Is that right? Yep. Bama. Yeah, but is it's name of a town his last name? I have a fee. I maybe oh, maybe he calls himself. I think he's a sir. He's a sir. Yeah, he's a sir and SIR name. Congratulations. Thanks for the affirmative and entertaining shows through the plague peaceful protests both protests and more. I rely on this show quite a bit.

CHAPTER 33 / 49 Discussion

Bisbee Arizona Meetup, De-douching Ceremony

Sean and Joelle Edgington of Bisbee, Arizona, donated to support the show and announce a local meetup on June 21st. The segment includes several "de-douching" requests for listeners who have delayed their financial support, along with "Jobs Karma" for those facing salary cuts.

bisbee· arizona· meetup· de-douching· donations

1:49:22 for counter thoughts to the synced media information and depth of material referenced. My only request is jobs, Karma, for the many needing work. That's very kind of you, Sir Laron Dothan in Alabama. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! You thought, Karma. Do you have this note from Sean and Joelle? I do, I have it. Right here, and you can tell I have it because it makes noise when I sound legit Sean and Joel Edgington in Bisbee, Arizona 333 33 I'm currently dictating this letter to my plasma hot wife Because I can't type for shit Besides giving her credit for typing skill she also hit me in the mouth she hit him in the mouth nice the day we met nice

1:50:14 Four years ago, we're firm believers in the couple that no agendas together stays together. We need a de-douching. You got it. Big double de-douching. You've been de-douched. Thoroughly doused. Nice. And this is our first donation to the best podcast. My plasma hot wife may need a bigger de-douching, though I'm not sure how you do that as she has been listening since day one. My wife would like to call out... Basically, the dude's married to us now. If she's been listening to us from day one, it's like laying in bed with Curry and Dvorak. There's no doubt about it. It's got to be a fantastic experience. It's a foursome.

1:50:58 And you need to brush your teeth. My wife would like to call out Zach in Alaska as a douchebag. She hit him in the mouth seven years ago and he has yet to donate. We are founders and operators of a successful non-profit consignment store in Bisbee that supports our local homeless shelter and recovery house. If you've never been to Bisbee, we highly recommend it, but be prepared to immerse yourself in Dimension B when visiting and be careful not to bump into the overly swollen amygdalas as they are rampant in our hippie border town. We are hosting the first Bisbee, Arizona meetup on June 21st. Wanted to serve mutton and mead but I'm not sure what mutton is. It's lamb.

1:51:39 Mutton is mature lamb. Yeah, surplus lamb. And it stinks. It's the opposite of veal. Yes, it's the opposite of veal. Lamb is like veal and mutton is like beef, but it stinks. Yeah. And when you cook it, it stinks up the house. Right. Yay. And he doesn't know anyone who brews mead. So it's tacos and taquati. Anyways, as indicated by my plasma hot reference, my wife is a huge sci-fi nut. In her honor, can I please have the following jingles? I'm sorry, I should have given you this earlier. Space Force, Pew Pew, and the theremin with a goat karma.

1:52:21 Oh, that's not too bad. So that's Space Force Pew Pew and Theremin with the, and you should have Theremin at the ready. Yeah, Theremin's always at the ready. Space Force! Enclosed, please find the donation. I'm sorry. I thought the note was over. We poked this card out just for you. John, enjoy the glitter. Because the glitter card got all over the place. Oh no! And by the way, you guys do your own accounting so you can split this donation any way you want. And did they want a Karma as well or just the Space Force? Goat Karma. Oh, Goat Karma. Space Force! You've got karma. You may read the next few notes while I look up Jennifer's email. Jesse Schaefer from Stewart, Florida says, in the morning, gents. I've been a listener for close to a year now. You two have taken me from being a burner liberal, that's B-E-R-N-E-R as in Bernie, I guess, into understanding how things actually work in less than a year.

1:53:32 That's like a $30,000 college education right there. Yeah. I am extremely grateful for the media deconstruction you bring and eagerly await each release. We love releasing to you. I also greatly enjoy every show on the live stream. Shout out to that Larry show, Grumpy Old Ben's and Nick the Rat. Of course, that's noagendastream.com. The value for value model has settled it for me and I can't stand any of the shows I used to listen to due to the constant ads in the middle of an important topic. I look for... the best has got to be Ben Shapiro. He'll just be talking with you like this and all of a sudden he says, gold! Do you have gold? You need gold! And it's like, what the hell? It's very jarring, very jarring.

1:54:17 I used to listen yes the ads in many. I look forward to becoming sir Schaefer night of Stuart, Florida in the coming months I would like to call out Cameron H of Austin Minnesota that is as a douchebag as he has been listening since 2017 hit me in the mouth I've also requested a de-douching for myself. We got that You've been de-douched And Trump Pelosi jobs car would be greatly appreciated as my company has cut my salary benefits and bonuses based on bullcrap COVID projections despite us being busier than ever. They're bastards. And if they got, I don't know how big your company is, but with the paycheck protection program, they shouldn't be doing that. In fact, I think, I think there's legalities, but it may be a very big company. But Jesse, thank you so much. And of course we've got,

1:55:06 We've got a little bit of Trump Pelosi jobs karma for you. Jobs. Oh wait, this would be the one. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. And jobs. Let's vote! You've got karma. And who, which one was that? I'm sorry. So now we're at Rob After The Earl from Kansas City, 333. Long time since my last donation. Sorry about that, he says. NJNK, no jingles, no karma. And we're not, thank you. Don't worry about it. Rob Alter, The Earl Who Lives In Kansas City. Appreciate it, Rob. Thank you for your courage.

CHAPTER 34 / 49 Discussion

Kentucky Relocation, New York Lockdown Escape

Jennifer Ogley shared her family's story of moving from New York to Kentucky to escape strict lockdown orders and "unhinged" leftist views. She reports that her husband found success working at a greenhouse in Kentucky, where they now live "mask-free" and enjoy a more stable environment.

kentucky· new york· king cuomo· vitamin d· greenhouse

1:55:46 All right, Nathaniel Wirgao, 333 as well. These are fantastic numbers. The 33 lives large on today's show. This donation is a birthday present from my lovely, amazing wife, Suen. S-O-O-I-N, Suen. Sunday is her birthday, and she's an OTG kind of lady so may we request John singing the OTG jingle? Well, you actually can't have him singing the OTG jingle. We need to go to... let's see, I haven't pulled that one out in a while. Here we go. Yes, what else did we have?

1:56:31 That's true afterward also karma for all producers email to follow I didn't see any other email. Did you or because then we can go I didn't look for that one Thank you very much Nathaniel. Yeah, I didn't know if you had any more, but we'll give you the all-comer for producers of course Oh I'm an OTG kind of guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the OTG. Yes. That's true. You've got karma. All right. Jennifer Ogley in Russell, Kentucky, 28975. And she sent an email in. Interesting number. Why? I don't know. It's just it's no. I thought you caught something. No, no, it's not sequential.

1:57:30 ITM gents donated last night and hopefully this note makes it. 28975 credit to my incredibly selfless handsome husband Matthew Ugly. For his 37th birthday on the 17th. Ah, I don't know that's on the list. Is it on the list? No, let me see. Keep reading and I'll check it out. Okay, there's Matthew Ogley. Can you add him to the birthday list please and make sure he gets the producer credit? Okay, we can do that. And is his birthday today? On the 17th. Oh, the 17th. Okay. He never spends a dime on himself, so I'm forced to do it for him.

1:58:13 And thanks to the stimulus and pandemic unemployment, I was able to make this happen. Oh, well, thanks. Happy birthday, babe. She writes in uppercase. I love you. I love you bigly. And this brings you halfway to knighthood. Let me get the jingles out of the way as I failed to do so at the beginning of my last donation. So, okay, sorry. Here we go. You got your pen? Yeah. Trump. I need Trump. Get it aroused. and Biden the whole load. Can you see that juice? This is gross by the way, Jennifer. Jennifer, can you see the juice? And Obama's you might die.

1:59:00 Okay, I wait, wait, wait, there's more to the note. So you can take this is all part of the birthday present. Seriously. Yes. My husband and I have been through a lot over the past year. He graduated with two degrees and we moved back to Western New York hoping you'd find work in his field. But sadly, jobs karma has not worked out as if yet. So we'll take another dose. So they put that on the end. You bet. In the light of King Cuomo's executive orders in the scare tactics on the M5M, we are forced out of our housing as our roommate was convinced my five human resources. Oh, that's nice. No, no. We'd give her the Rona. Oh, that's horrible.

1:59:36 We decided no longer could we take the miserable, unhinged, leftist views of the great state of New York and refused to go down with the ship. So we opted to move back to Kentucky where we have been able to live out lives mask-free and soak up that vital vitamin D. My husband was able to go back to his old job working for a local greenhouse owner, which has been his best year ever and he can't seem to get plants to produce and stock, can't keep him in stock. With all that said, I would like to extend a big thank you from the bottom of my heart to you and Adam as you helped us get through these dark six months in New York and literally kept us sane and married. The No Agenda couple that listens together stays together. In fact, we have Human Resource number six on the way. I'll take credit. It's us, John. We did it. Six. Holy crap. In late August, so some birthing karma would be helpful.

2:00:28 Safe to say that we are definitely doing our part to support the economy unlike most Millennials who think their dogs will support them in Ohio. Who think their dogs will support them in old age? You truth to have no idea you are changing the world and healing our hearts and minds in the process Keep doing what you do. Here's to many more years love and light and health to all Jen that is Jennifer That is so incredibly sweet. What a lovely note, by the way, baby birthing karma falls under jobs karma Just so you know, we consider that to be a part of the same thing part of it big job. That's really beautiful. Thank you. And I'm very happy you guys escaped and that you're happy in Kentucky. And yes, jobs, karma. And we hope it works for you. It's hard to get it aroused and it is hard to get it aroused, but we got it aroused. I'm going to give you the whole load. Can you see that juice? You might not. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.

CHAPTER 35 / 49 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony, AS400 IBM Computer

Randy Holcomb is knighted as the "Knight of the AS400," named after the famous IBM mid-range computer system. Other donors include listeners who discovered the show through the Joe Rogan Experience and those requesting "Goat Karma" for upcoming medical surgeries.

as400· ibm· knighthood· flag day· joe rogan

2:01:31 Nasty, Jennifer. Randy Holcomb comes in at $234.56 from Lake Forest, California. Thank you for all the great work. and deconstructions you guys do twice a week. I've been a listener since the beginning and your show almost never disappoints. Please keep it up. June 14th, Flag Day will be turning... Oh, Flag Day, June 14th. Yes, today. Oh, geez. Another promotion, promotional opportunity missed. It's Flag Day. Vote, let's see, A, B, C, D, E, F, 6, F, L...

2:02:06 I will be turning the big 50 and thought this would be a great time to donate. You're on the list and should put me over the qualify me for knighthood. I don't know if you're on that list. Oh, hold on a second. Randy? I donated over 500 during your 10 year anniversary and technically was a knight then but I wanted to do it the right way by donating over a thousand. I would like to be known as the Knights of the AS400, IBM's mid-range computer. Yes. One of the most famous machines ever. Used to be my client. I did all the advertising for them. Again, thanks for all you do. Oh, I love those green screens. Please, I would like a goat karma and the respect jingle.

2:02:47 Okay, so it's Randy. Let me just get it right because it wasn't on my list Randy Holcomb Holcomb yeah come with a B, and he'll be night of the AS 400 was that the exact yeah? Somebody had to be yeah AS 400 is like a spelling mistake in my spellchecker Oh, somebody hates this machine. It's so incredibly mean. It's one of the greatest machines, one of the greatest computers. That and the Burrows B5000. I think you can tube the machines you can't. It still rocks. I mean the AS400 is still, it's still a division, it's still in business. They still make them. They just need dudes to be updated. Hopefully Randy can program it. Oh, hello.

2:03:34 Oh, hello, what happened play what's going on? You've got This would happen you cursed he has 400 yeah, Jimmy James Sir, Jimmy James of the flatlanders, sir. Jimmy James the flatlanders in Oklahoma City to it works again. Sorry. Yes. Ah The value is more than I can pay for, but hopefully this helps. This is also in honor of the meetup happening in the heartland today. Thanks newly knighted Sir AF John. No jingles in karma with goat, of course. No jingles with karma, I guess, with goat for you two. Thank you for your courage. Absolutely, jingle karma with a goat. You've got karma.

2:04:28 Dan Merchant, $200 from DeVal, Tejas. Howdy, Crackpot and Buzzkill. First time donation from a fellow Austinite after catching Adam on the Joe Rogan experience. I shall deduce you. You may not know how it works yet, so let's make sure you get that. You've been deduced. Let's see. I have become addicted to your amygdala control twice a week and deconstructing the end of the world in steps. Love the show. I will be listening until the mothership lands to take us to safety. I look forward to the next meetup to maybe meet Adam since I know JCD won't be making a trip to Texas anytime soon. You never know.

2:05:09 Can I get some goat karma, China is asshole and we're all gonna die in a massive dedouching since I've waited till now to donate and thank you for your courage boys with a Z. Can't wait for the par-tay! Dan Merchant, no knighthood name determined yet. And I didn't have his jingles lined up. What did he want here? It was goat karma, oh China is asshole and what was the last one? Goat karma, oh we're all gonna die. Okay. Sorry about that. It's when I read the notes that it doesn't make it easy. China is asshole! You've got karma. Alright, last on the list, last and finishing this up is Robert Hausner in Ontario, Canada.

CHAPTER 36 / 49 Discussion

Producer Feedback, Professionalism in Communication

The hosts discuss the proper way for producers to provide feedback, emphasizing a professional approach over hostile criticism. They acknowledge their own mistakes, such as the Belgian Congo population error, and reiterate their commitment to correcting the record when presented with facts.

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2:06:10 I don't know how to pronounce the name of this town. Kapuskeg. I give up on that. I give up on that. Anyway, he sent a note with his email address, but to be honest about it, I can't find that note. I used the exact address, but I did find another note from him written in on June 10th when he donated 5017. So he's... I have a note here from... Is that also when? Is that the Wednesday? Was that the 10th? Saturday, June 10th. I have a note from Saturday, June 10th. Okay, then... He says your newsletters work. Thanks for the poop update. He says, uh, kombucha rock soda is kefir, but kombucha's... I would not advise it. It can't be reproduced. You are not a kombucha fan. No, I think it's toxic. You think it's poison. Yeah.

2:07:04 Most of it's fake now, it's just a little vinegar water. They don't even make it, most places don't even make real camphor anymore. Oh really? I didn't realize that. Yeah, because of its health issues. It's dangerous, it's not good for you. So thanks for the work you do. No, I do not have that email and... No, I don't have anything else. Thank you. Why don't you resend it and... Yeah, we'll get to it eventually. Okay, well I want to thank all these folks. These are the executive and associate executive producers for Show 1251. and they make it all possible along with our other donors, but to get a top-heavy day like this is very rare. It's beautiful to see. It's welcoming. We're welcoming it. Yes, welcoming. And these are real credits. Executive producer, associate executive producer of the NOAA Gender Show, episode 1251. Just two days ago, I received an email from one of our executive producers

2:07:59 and not from the executive producer but from a firm who was looking to hire him. And I was a reference, correctly so, I was notified I was a reference to vouch for his producership and I gave a glowing review. And we'll do that for anybody who is an ex- and for any producer, but certainly executive producers, associate executive producers, you've got the title, put it on your, put it on your, on your resume. We'll be happy to vouch for you. Very happy to do that. The more jobs we can get out there, the better. And thank you to Everybody who supports the show will be thanking more in a little bit as John said top-heavy today So that'll be much shorter We got meetups to talk about all kinds of stuff But remember we have another show coming up on Thursday if you'd like to join this merry little tribe and support us just go to Dvorak.org slash N A And remember whatever you do don't go into a hospital you'll die Our formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth Order!

2:09:09 I did want to mention one other thing. We make mistakes, we miss stuff, we do stuff wrong. Happens all the time. If you're a producer and you notice something, I would like to give some people some ways in which a producer, an actual producer, works when talking to people who are putting the show together and are the talent of the show. There's two ways to approach this. You can say, hey, I have some personal experience with this. I think you you missed something you could have done something a little differently here and And you know if you have it here some links whatever you have That's really the way to approach it as a professional producer, and if you have supported the show financially you're definitely a producer Here's what doesn't work very well I hear it comes. I can't believe

2:10:08 This is horrible! Okay, so that is not a very effective way to get me interested in your feedback. It is really... and I have to say, it hurts. Like man, you're a producer. It does. You're a producer. It's not like charity. You have a total valid reason to talk to us and say, hey, here's what I think you did wrong. But when you approach it from a hostile point, It just doesn't work. So it's just a friendly... No, but it does get... But wait, there's a plus to it. Okay. The plus side is you get to hear Adam do that voice. Yeah, there is. Yes, if you want to be the subject of the voice, we can certainly do it. So, but that's all. And I understand people like, totally screw that up, it's wrong. Yeah, that's what we need to know. We're happy to correct stuff. Happy to. It's important. We need to.

2:11:06 Anyway, like the Congo, you know, this small thing. Now people were pretty nice about that, but also there was like, what an idiot man! Like no, no, no, no, no. What an idiot man! Bottom line, as you heard earlier, we are. We are idiots. We would not be anywhere near... Well, clearly, we're podcasters. This is where we belong. We're safe here. It's okay. We're down at the bottom of the broadcasting ladder. The show business ladder in general. Yeah, what? And quit show business? We're down here sweeping up elephant dung. Hey, man, do you have a... Oh, by the way, a reminder as well for people, if you want, we now do have...

2:11:48 So we do have that requestable for your donations. And do you have a... Kylie special anything Kylie today no no Kylie's only on Thursdays okay all right because we got I mean people are jacked about the Kylie specials the same oh yeah well you get it I don't overdo it it's a great segment though yes um I end of show I so ideas I have one I think I got nothing okay I have one was sent to me by a producer I think it qualifies thanks for the lecture idiot I kind of like that one. Thanks for the lecture. A gem. That's Tucker, right? I think so. Yeah, well, that makes sense. I think it's good. It sounds like him. Thanks for the lecture, idiot. Well, let's see. What should we do? Let's play some off-the-wall stuff. Let's start with... Here we go. Joe Biden. Is that where we go? Well, I wasn't thinking of going right on Biden, but we can do... We got some... Here's...

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Joe Biden Secret Advisors, Larry Summers

The Joe Biden campaign is criticized for keeping the names of its advisors secret to avoid public backlash. Controversial figures like Larry Summers and Rahm Emanuel have been linked to the campaign, leading to concerns that these "Democratic Party dinosaurs" are operating without media scrutiny.

joe biden· larry summers· rahm emanuel· wall street· bernie sanders

2:12:54 First let's talk about about Biden before getting Biden clips. This is Joe Biden and secret advisors I thought this was worth knowing job secret advisors Okay, what did you make of just like the idea of secrecy around who is actually advising Joe? Actually asking these questions. Where is this from? Can I just say yeah, your voice gets on my nerves. Who is that? Oh That's crystal. That's crystal ball. What did you make of just like the idea of secrecy around who is actually advising Joe Biden? I think it has to do with what happened a few months ago, a few weeks ago, which was that

2:13:31 to of his advisers leaked out of one was larry summers uh... controversial figure a guy who's seen as uh... fairly aligned with the ideology of wall street and then another story came out uh... saying that ron manuel the former chicago mayor former uh... obama chief of staff is also advising joe biden and you know that those are two Not such encouraging names to be on a list advising Joe Biden. They're people who aren't all that well-liked. I mean, Rahm Emanuel left office in disgrace as Chicago mayor after a situation where his administration had essentially suppressed the video of a police murder of a teenager. So the idea that Joe Biden is being advised

2:14:20 by these Democratic Party dinosaurs, controversial ones. I think it came out, people didn't like it, and now the Biden campaign is sort of like, you know what, here's our solution. We're just not going to tell anybody. anything about who is advising the potential next president of the United States. They're going to put the economic advisor list in the basement along with Joe. David, what really caught our eyes, the New York Times reporter who even wrote this story, he revealed one of his biggest qualms, Jim Tankersley, let's put his tweet up on the screen. One of the things that it really matters is that The Biden campaign telling their advisors they can't disclose their role allows those people to go on TV without identifying themselves as part of the Biden team. And so, I mean, look, what we do here on this show, like when you were working for the Bernie campaign, is we're like, hey, this guy works for the Bernie campaign. So the viewers can know and same with any other advisor to a candidate. This is a real disservice that the media is also being complicit in.

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Facebook Fact-Checking, Saagar Enjeti Analysis

Saagar Enjeti of The Rising analyzes Joe Biden's request for Facebook to fact-check political ads, arguing it would empower neoliberal media outlets to silence anti-establishment views. Forbes magazine is also mocked for its metric claiming President Trump tells exactly 23.8 lies per day.

facebook· saagar enjeti· mark zuckerberg· fact-checking· forbes

2:15:18 Oh, I'm sorry. Do you have any illusion that there are not people on the payroll providing opinion without those credentials currently? Please. Are they shocked? Shocked? He's shocked and dismayed. Shocked, I tell you. Okay. He had an interesting little thing on Biden that was about the media request for Biden. This was actually a good little rant from this guy, Sagar, who we just heard that was shocked and dismayed. But listen to this. This is Sagar on Biden media request. Containing an open letter, it demands that Facebook quote, promote real news, not fake news, quickly remove viral misinformation, end the pre-election quote unquote lie period, and enforce voter suppression rules against everyone, even the president. Now all of this sounds innocuous until you really begin to dissect it.

2:16:11 In essence, a candidate for President of the United States is asking for Facebook to begin fact-checking political advertising, including his own, especially two weeks before Election Day. Now, why would Joe Biden, a proven liar on dozens of issues in the public realm, from his role in the war in Iraq, his role in criminal justice, his record on trying to cut Social Security, and even on supposedly getting arrested while trying to see Nelson Mandela, want there to be fact-checking checking of political ads on Facebook? Well, the answer is simple. As all risers know, he knows that if Facebook were to ever get into the fact checking business, that they would partner with the mainstream media who have no problem giving Biden a blatant pass on his lies while crying foul. If Trump sneezes and calls it a cough, then they rate it false for Pinocchio's five stars.

2:17:01 As I say every single time that we have this discussion, you may get a warm little fuzzy feeling when you see a lame CNN journalist called the big bad Donald a liar. But the neoliberalism that animates that CNN journalist is coming for you if you dare to hold anti-establishment views. are the people who would fact check AOC on the cost for Medicare for all. They're the people who got mad at Bernie Sanders for correctly saying illegal immigration depresses domestic wages. And they're the people who bend over backwards to say that we're all wrong on this show about trade because you're better off with some cheap Chinese crap.

2:17:38 Their profession can better be described as neoliberalism checking, far more than fact-checking. But beyond the actual mechanics of fact-checking, think about the macro-ask of the Biden campaign here. They want tech oligarch Mark Zuckerberg to determine what is true and what isn't in our political discourse. Or worse, they want Zuckerberg to appoint a weird so-called independent board of directors made up of a bunch of a bunch of money neoliberals to decide what we see and what we don't. Zuckerberg doesn't even want that, and neither do I, and neither should you. Well, the media is very happy to fact check Trump. I'm looking at Forbes magazine. As of early April, they're a little behind on the counting, Trump has told 23.3 lies a day.

2:18:29 How can you even do that? That is a 0.5 lie increase since 2019. What's more, this is Forbes magazine, Trump has averaged 23.8 lies per day since the first case of COVID-19 was reported in the US. Another 0.5 lie increase. Do they proofread this shit? Do they go like, man, are we really talking about 23.8 lies per day? Is that really the metric that Forbes magazine... What kind of journalism is this? And as we've already documented, half of these lies aren't lies. Have you read Matt Taibbi's new piece, The American Press is Destroying Itself?

2:19:19 Yeah, I get it. I subscribe to his, what is that? Sugar Stack, whatever it is. So I think what he said is true. And this is just virtue signaling from Forbes. They got a virtue signal, otherwise they don't get access to the really rich people who aren't Democrats, typically. Now, now, sorry, Sagar said something. He followed this up with something. I have a part two of this clip and let's see what that's. I don't remember it, though. Let's see what's going on. Is part of a broader delusion that pervades the chattering class. These people genuinely believe that nobody in their right mind could have ever voted for Donald Trump unless they were tricked into doing so by some Moldovan bloggers, some stupid Facebook memes or a clickbait headline.

2:20:08 They think Trump voters or even Bernie voters for that matter could never hold the positions that they have without getting duped into them. And thus, if we're bombarded with their propaganda, we're going to change our lying ways. The opposite is true. Yes, very astute, Sagar. Yeah, we have talked about this before which is the that class of people that say I don't know but I don't know how he won because I don't know any person that voted for him. Not a single one. So he couldn't have won. There's no way. It doesn't make any sense. I have a couple of clips from Joe which and the reason I pulled them is it was an interview with Trevor Noah of the Tonight Show Lockdown Edition, a Tonight Show, the Daily Show Lockdown.

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Trevor Noah Joe Biden Interview, Police Funding

In an interview with Trevor Noah, Joe Biden clarified that he does not support defunding the police but favors reform through federal grant conditions. Biden proposed a national "use of force" standard and increased funding for social programs to handle mental health and homelessness issues.

trevor noah· joe biden· defund the police· sensitivity training· federal grants

2:20:58 And it was nine minutes long and knowing from your research that Joe is coherent in the first 10 minutes, I figured let's have a listen. And he was coherent. Now, is he saying anything that a presidential nominee that would give him an edge? I don't think so. But this of course was mainly about Black Lives Matter and Joe is on message as usual. Trevor Noah will set it up. I want to talk a little bit about the op-ed that you put out today. Talk me through how you would plan to undo systemic oppression, how you would plan to undo systemic racism and how you think you'll address the needs of the African American community. Well, first of all, it's going to take time.

2:21:39 You know, Donald Trump didn't invent racism, but he sure has promoted it. And it's systemic, it's been real. The disparities in the country, especially in the economy right now, the combination, there's just an awful combination. COVID-19, unemployment, systemic racism. What you'll hear, systemic racism, what you'll hear is a politician who was running to be president who has zero solutions. He can identify the problems, he has zero solutions, and the solutions that he has, he doesn't even realize what he's saying is really inadequate. He wrote an op-ed and of course

2:22:21 No one actually wants to defund the police of the people in power because they need them to protect them So they're never gonna be a complete defunding of police. They want to be protected. Yes So somebody has to protect those left-wing tech moguls that live in Hillsborough so in Atherton So Biden, of course, looks at it more as reform, which is how adults pronounce the word defund. You have come out in favor of police reform, you know, but what does that actually mean? Because some people think that you cannot reform an institution that is fundamentally rotten in the core.

2:23:01 Well, I don't think it's rotten in the core and I don't think all cops are bad cops. But I think what it look 90% of all the funding for police comes from local taxpayers. So now listen to what he's saying. 90% of everything that funds the police comes from local taxpayers. I think that's probably true. 90% In fact, that's what the defund movement is about. How can we be spending so much on policing? How is this possible? 90% comes from local sources, not the federal government. 90% of all the funding for police comes from local taxpayers. So the federal government under our system cannot, other than taking a civil rights action, say they do A, B, C and D.

2:23:44 But what we can do is we can make sure that we insist on certain fundamental changes take place now, including giving, making sure there's sensitivity training, making sure that all of the cops. Yeah. Hello. The 1960s called. Yeah. Yeah. They want their sensitivity training back, Joe. That's not going to fly. That all of cops past grievances are, excuse me, transgressions. Oh, the truth wants to come out. All the cops passed grievances, I mean transgressions. Get your words straight, Joe. That all of cops passed grievances, excuse me. Believe me, they've got grievances too. Transgressions are all made public because we can say if you don't, we are not going to provide the federal funding that we provide for you through what they call

2:24:35 burn grants and cop grants. So here's the big man Joe Biden who just got through telling us that 90% of all police force funding is local from state taxes, but you know what? I'm going to stop the cop grants. Do you know what cop grants are? Look it up. Cop grants are specific grants for things like sensitivity training, you numbskull. And so we can, I think now, impact on significantly the desire of many police departments as well to fundamentally change the way they police. Bullcrap. So he's saying, oh no, we'll get rid of 10%. Yeah, that 10% that's actually probably good that is federal money. And Noah is not having it and he's pushing further. Trevor Noah. Joe, I, you're a foreigner. Ah, here we go. Some would say to you, um, Mr. Vice President, if you were to become president,

2:25:24 Do you think that there would be a world where defunding the police would be the solution and getting some of these responsibilities away from police forces, you know, police in schools, police handling mental illness, police handling homelessness, et cetera? Well, I think there are a lot of changes. They can take place, period, without having to defund. By the way, when I hear this, when I hear exactly this, you know, homelessness meant this is if, if Joe Biden wins, or even if the Democrats can win the Senate, anything's possible. Then you're gonna see an expansion of services like you've never seen before We will have NGOs there goes all the money and they're all gonna have their clients and clients You don't fire clients. You don't say hey, you're now an ex-client because I solved your problems No, you want to grow the base bring in more clients. This is this is this has not worked Let's put it that way a lot of changes they can take place period without having to defund police completely Here's what I think's happened

2:26:26 You have well over 80% of the American people going, whoa, I didn't know this. I didn't know this was happening. I don't believe... Where's this number come from? 80%! The science is in! Shut up! Do you have a question about Joe? because we'll send the Antifa goons on you don't question it but apparently 80% of the American people had no idea this was going on. We have not been traumatized for the past 25 to 30 years really since the Rodney King in 1992. That's how long we've been we've been seeing this. It's been pounded and pounded and pounded and hounded.

2:27:04 I didn't know this. I didn't know this was happening. I don't believe peace should be defunded, but I think the conditions should be placed upon them or departments are having to take significant reforms relating to that. We should set up a national use of force standard. If they don't sign onto it, then in fact, they don't get any of the federal money. In addition, that they have to demonstrate that they release all the data that relates to misconduct by police. That all has to be sent to the Justice Department. If they don't send it to the Justice Department nationally, they don't get funding. But as it relates to, for example, mental illness and homelessness and drug abuse and the like, many changes we can make.

2:27:47 You see, it's like all he wants is to have more programs. I'm sure the cops don't want to deal with mental illness. It's a, you know, this is very trying. They don't really need that. Yeah. So I don't think Joe has any, uh, anything good there. I just didn't say anything. He didn't say anything worth a shit. He was awake and, and he was active and, uh, the Adderall, whatever he's taken was, it was going, it was nine minutes. So, but just nothing really came out of it. Unlike Joy Behar, who was also at home in her basement for The View, and she was asked to give her view about defunding because of course you know that she was a former school teacher. Did you know this?

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Joy Behar The View, Police Reform Comments

Joy Behar of The View argued that the term "defund" should be replaced with "reform" to avoid scaring the public. She compared the movement of problematic police officers between precincts to the historical scandals within the Catholic Church involving the relocation of rogue priests.

joy behar· the view· whoopi goldberg· police reform· catholic church

2:28:39 No, I didn't. Well, apparently she was or let's see whoopie will set it up for us. Joy, you're a formula English teacher. She's a formula English teacher. I thought she was a formula formula formula. Joy, you're a formula English teacher. What is defund mean to you here? Goldberg is what is drunk? Do you think she's drunk? Well, they're at home. You're bored, you're not in the studio, there's nobody telling you, hey, sober up. Let's listen to it again. Joy, you're a formula English teacher. What does defund mean to you here? Well, Sonny said basically everything that needs to be said about it because the real word should be reform. But of course, defund sounds very scary. And people say, oh, they're going to eliminate the police department. Of course, that is ridiculous.

2:29:34 on its face. No one's eliminating a department that protects people. If I'm getting mugged, I certainly want the police to come for my aid. I didn't noise me when they weaponize a term. So that's why you're saying I'm an English teacher. Stop the clip. Has she ever seen these protests where they were the site? A lot of the printed signage says abolish the police. Now, has she read any of the documents that the Antifa in particular put out where it says we don't want to do we want to defund then abolish the police? She didn't know any of any of this. No, no.

2:30:17 I've got this at the dinner table the other night. It's like the abolish the police side of the argument is completely ignored. And by the way, it has to be ignored. Yeah, it has to be ignored. You find this there. Yeah, you find what you were going to say, by the way, I find that you had a comment about some people that you know, some time ago that you said they're not radicalized. They're just, they're just idiots. Now it's the children. The children aren't radicalized. They're just idiots. Yes. And I found this to be the case with some debate over the last few days and it was like, John, what's the point? I feel your pain.

2:30:57 That's exactly right. What is the point? And here she is doing exactly what the under-informed, over-socialized children are saying that she shouldn't do, which is act out of privilege, saying, well, if I'm getting mugged, I want the police to show up. That's why you're saying I'm an English teacher. Like, for instance, the term Black Lives Matter, I'm interested in that because for certain people I know say, well, all lives matter. Oh, these are racist a-hole friends, Joy Behar? Certain people you know, do they say all lives matter? You should be ashamed to disassociate from them. Shame, shame, shame. And that because for certain people I know say, well, all lives matter. And the explanation that someone gave, which I think is brilliant, is the house is on fire on this block. Okay, this house is on fire. These other houses are also not on fire. So yes,

2:31:47 Yes, these houses matter, but this is the house that's on fire right now. Wow, the analogy queen strikes again. And I think that, you know, people just take the words and distort them. Even the pro so-called pro-life movement. Pro-lifers generally are happy to be pro-life until the person is born and then they drop social programs and they continue to not be pro-life. So they call it pro-life but it's really anti-abortion. Well then say it like that. Then Joy, I'm sure you're going on to say that people who are pro-choice are actually pro-abortion. Shouldn't you just say it like that, Joy Behar? Well, actually the old words, the old words was pro-abortion and the old words that they, the pro-choice was abortionist. They're abortionists.

2:32:40 It's like it's abortionism. But does she not, well of course she doesn't, but someone surely sees the irony of her literally saying you a-holes don't say pro-life just say you're anti-abortion it's more fair. Well could you say instead of saying pro-choice say pro-abortion or abortionist? No. She can't. No. No. No. It's Joy Behar. I think she actually catches her idiocy here if you listen to it. They call it pro-life but it's really anti-abortion well then say it like that is my is my oh shit I think she just realized their crap oh that was kind of dumb okay like that is my is my and as she as Sonny points out Biden and Pelosi and the rest of the Democrats they just want to get rid of chokeholds which sounds so

2:33:26 inhuman to me and also if you're going to barge into people's houses knock on the door first every every police show I've ever seen they knock and they say police and then they go in oh yes joy and in those police series they they just not they go in and then they shot out and whenever they shoot immediately it's over this did someone's arrested it always ends well on the police shows you watch joy Joy, that is not real! That is not real, Joy! It's a show! It's a show! It's a drama! I don't know if you were talking about cops, but that was cancelled! These are all shows, darling. It's entertainment, Dick Wolf!

2:34:08 Okay, I think it's you didn't dick wolf work for ABC. Just sit down. No, he said dick wolf was the NBA brand He ran the NBC stuff and then he moved to CBS. He's doing stuff in CBS now, but this is Chicago he's doing Chicago PD right right. Well, this just shows you I don't know what it shows you. I don't even know why we're playing it. It shows you that Joy Behar is an idiot and we shouldn't play her clips. 30 more seconds. Every police show I've ever seen, they knock and they say police and then they go in. Why is it that certain states allow police to go into the house without warning them that they're there? You know, and they need a national database. Well, that's because they have strict gun laws in those states.

2:34:54 And it's not a problem if the cops show up because they're not expecting a gun on the other side, typically. That's the answer I have for you now. I'll look into it. I want the police to go into the house without warning them that they're there. And they need a national database for tracking police misconduct because they keep sending them... Hear the talking point, the database. And while you're at it, Joy, why don't you tell Christians they're idiots? ...database for tracking police misconduct, you know, because they keep sending them from one precinct to another. It reminds me again of the Catholic Church and the scandal there with a certain rogue priest.

2:35:33 is an abuser, and instead of kicking him out and sending him to jail, they send him to the next parish. These things are all systemic and need to be changed. Oh, there it is! That's systemic! Now I get it. So the church is systemic abusers. You should do a topic on that, Joy, and say it. You know, don't hide it like you say. Say it. The church is systemic abusers, which is not true of the whole church, but you can go ahead and say it. This woman, I just need to undress that idiot. You're never gonna get anywhere. Nah, you're right. What am I thinking? Of course not. I have a couple things here I want to get out of the way before I take a second break, which is, we got this, there was this funny stolen call.

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Chicago Alderman Raymond Lopez, Mayor Lori Lightfoot

A leaked conference call between Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot and Alderman Raymond Lopez reveals a profanity-laced argument regarding the city's response to looting. Lopez warned of "gangbangers with AK-47s" in his ward, while Lightfoot dismissed his concerns as "full of s**t."

chicago· lori lightfoot· raymond lopez· looting· ak-47

2:36:17 of the Chicago aldermen. Oh yeah, oh yeah. Have you heard this? Yeah, when he's talking to the mayor? Yeah, and the men, they're cussing each other out. Unfortunately, I don't have the real copy. I have the bleeped copy. Oh, I have the real copy. I have it. You have the copy with the unbleeps? Yeah, I have the clip. Okay, play that clip. Yeah, hold on. Alderman. I had it for the last show and it's an hour long, the whole thing. This is just a segment of it. So you want the same with their cussing at each other. That's the one I've got. So an alderman in Chicago, as I understand it. Lopez. Well, but what is an alderman? Let's explain this to people. Is it like a person who is in charge, kind of like an elected official of the bureau? The city is, well, it's not boroughs. Boroughs are whole,

2:37:03 corporations. So it's blocks, city blocks or something? It's not blocks, it's more like supervisors within San Francisco, they have an area, yeah I guess it is blocks, it's kind of an area of blocks and there's like 50 of them in Chicago and every alderman he's like the local guy who gets things done for his little area. You know, they need to fix some potholes, they need to grease some skins for some guy to get his license. It's just part of a very elaborate system and some of the older men in Chicago don't like this woman Lightfoot, who somebody called

2:37:44 What's the name of that? Oh, I can't think. They had a nickname for her I just thought was very offensive and accurate. But you forgot. But anyway, so the one alderman is really, he runs for mayor all the time and he goes gets on her case and she never pays attention to him and so they get into a cussing fest with each other. And actually Mike, you should Why don't you play mine because it takes the cussing out and has a bonus. No, come on. This is good. You want the cussing. You want the cussing. It's a part of life. We can't expect our police, and I don't fault them at all, to be able to control this. But I know that we asked our faith base yesterday to stand at the front line between police and looters and rioters.

2:38:32 And I'm simply not comfortable telling my churches, those people to be the intermediary in the middle of a riot that's citywide. We need something better because right now we only have 370 whatever National Guards on standby. Half our neighborhoods are already obliterated. It's too late. You know, we know that people are here to antagonize and incite, and you've got them all pumped tonight. Today, they're not gonna go to bed at eight o'clock. They're gonna turn their focus in the neighborhood. I've got gangbangers with AK-47s walking around right now, just waiting to settle some scores. What are we gonna do, and what do we tell our residents other than good faith people stand up? It's not gonna be enough. Thank you, Oliver.

2:39:24 I think you're 100% full of shit is what I think. If you think... If you think we were not ready and we stood by and let the neighborhood go up, there's nothing intelligent that I can say to you. Maybe you should come out and see what's going on. It's the stupidest thing I have ever heard. I understand you want to preen. I understand that you think that you can... Mayor, you need to check your fucking attitude. That's what you need to do. Right now? No. You need to check your attitude.

2:40:12 This guy actually sounds like a pretty cool dude. He's like, hey man, this is messed up we got going on. And I love when the real Chicago Adson comes out. You attitude! Can't even do it. Well that's, yeah, it's a little bit like that. Yeah. Well I have, mine's clearer and I do have it beeped out, but I think you should play my clip. Okay. It's because this is actually taken from Fox so it has commentary. Alright, well what's the name of this clip? That's a good question. I hope you didn't even have it. Mayor of... no, no, that's not it. Oh, here it is. Stolen Chicago call. I got it. This was a conference call on May Sunday, May 31st to talk about Chicago's response to the widespread looting. On the call were Mayor Lori Lightfoot and all 50 Chicago aldermen and alderwomen, including Alderman Raymond Lopez, one of the mayor's harshest critics. Now for context, on the day of the conference,

2:41:09 Oh yeah, this is great. This is how Fox News would do it. That's exactly right. Look at all the crap that was going down! It was horrible! 17 homicides! underprepared as the looting spread saying his ward had become a virtual... Based on before we give based on her response do you think that she really just doesn't she really not believe that there are murders taking place in her city does she not get a report does she really not know? I have no idea what she's thinking. Chicago is a total mess. You can't have 17 homicides during this thing. Nobody even talks about that in the mainstream media. Dude, 17 homicides in Chicago is Saturday afternoon. No, I understand that, but it's not... actually 17 is not Saturday afternoon. It's usually maybe 9 over a weekend. But to have 17 at one event is pretty high. Yes.

2:42:09 Looting spread saying his ward had become a virtual war zone. Listen, half our neighborhoods are already obliterated It's too late we have to come up with a better plan because once my fear is once what they're done looting and rioting and Whatever's gonna happen tonight. What happens when they start going after residents? going into the neighborhoods. Once they start trying to break down people's doors who they think they got something, you know, we know that people are here to antagonize and incite and you've got them all pumped tonight. Today, they're not going to go to bed at eight o'clock. They're going to turn their focus in the neighborhoods. I've got gangbangers with AK-47s walking around right now, just waiting to settle some scores. And the alderman wasn't exaggerating. In his ward, two Walgreens were burned down along with restaurant shops and an entire strip mall. But when Lopez finished speaking, Mayor Lightfoot refused to respond. So Alderman Lopez demanded that she respond. Finally, she did. Watch. I think you're 100% full of s**t is what I think. If you think we want to hear that s**t,

2:43:13 I understand you want to pre. I understand that you think that you may need to check your That's what you need to do. That's when the other alderman jumped in to calm things down, but Alderman Lopez and the mayor weren't the only ones trading profanities. Another alderwoman was heard saying this is a total blank show. And the mayor added that she'd never seen blank like this before. One alderman finally spoke up saying many people in the city were listening to the call, including children. Got to catch them. Think of the children. Won't somebody please think of the children?

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Stacey Abrams Vice Presidential Ambitions, Stephen Colbert

Stacey Abrams appeared on The Late Show with Stephen Colbert to discuss her qualifications for the Vice Presidency. She pushed back against the idea of "demurring" when asked about the role, stating that as a Black woman, she has a responsibility to speak up for her own competency.

stacey abrams· stephen colbert· vice president· joe biden· georgia

2:44:03 Okay, I'm sorry. You need to give me a clearer signal if you have editing work. I didn't realize. I'm sorry. I didn't know you had done something to it. Well worth it. Now the other one I have, I got Stacey Abrams on Colbert. Oh good! Is she still not going to be the vice presidential nominee? Well, now that you mention that, we might as well play the one minute Stacey Abrams supercut where she says she's not going to do it and then she's going to do it and she's not going to do it, she's not going to do it, she's going to do it. Supercut. Now they're talking about you being on the ticket with Joe Biden. He hasn't even declared yet. What do you think about that? I think you don't run for second place.

2:44:47 She did however reveal the New York Times that she'd be honored to be considered for vice president by any nominee This is an unusual position to be in for someone to be considered Possibly the next vice president, of course, I want it. But if the vice president were to call you'd answer the phone. I would absolutely answer the phone and I would be happy to serve as a running mate. And for all those reasons you maintain that you would be an excellent candidate? I think absolutely. This is a question of competency, of skills. I think Vice President Biden is going to make a smart choice. I would share your concern about not picking a woman of color. Stacey Abrams, former Georgia lawmaker and successful candidate for governor, has been privately calling Democratic power

2:45:28 brokers asking them to tell Biden campaign officials that she should be the vice president. Joe Biden needs a vice presidential running mate. I have said many times that if called I will answer but I have not received any calls. Well, I still think she doesn't understand the Democratic Party is next man up. Yeah, not the next man up. No, but she feels entitled to it. That's no, she's gonna be a problem down the road. She does feel entitled. She's got something wrong with her. You need to listen to you need to use the word problematic. She's problematic this woman. So here's Colbert and Abrams clip one protesting continues nationwide Right now as an activist does this moment feel? Any different to you it does I participated in the

2:46:21 The demonstrations and protests after the Rodney King verdict in 1992, I was a college freshman. I helped organize marches. I got into a fight with the mayor of Atlanta declaring that his administration wasn't doing enough for poor black kids and poor black young people in the city. But those demonstrations ended. And after a few months of, actually after a few days of demonstration, after a few months of conversation, we went back to the way things were. But the fact that we have had more than 13 days of sustained engagement, we see multi-generational, multi-racial, multi-ethnic people standing up and declaring action. And going back to the point of voting, we see elected officials actually declaring and taking steps

2:47:08 concrete steps to make things right, that feels very different. But I think we also have to remember that we have a coward in the White House who has shown us what he intends to do if he stays, and he's been suborned by a group of moral cowards in the U.S. Senate who are allowing him to get away with his behavior. And I think that urgency is also sitting with demonstrators. She'll be a fantastic vice president. Can't wait. Oh, yeah. Name color. Yeah, it's going to be fab. So here he, here's where he brings in the vice president. He has a funny way of asking one of the questions that I think if you hear it when you hear it, and it's like, I wonder why he did that. But here we go. We know that we have to take action. In years past, we could possibly excuse those who were in charge saying, well, they're not that bad. There is nothing worse that we have in office than what we have today. Speaking of defeating the people in the White House right now, Joe Biden needs a vice presidential running mate

2:48:04 April Ryan says you're being vetted. Is that true or are you calling April Ryan a liar? I have said many times that if called I will answer but I have not received any calls so I look forward to hearing from whomever April Ryan is speaking to. And a lot of times vice presidential possible running mates demur when they're asked the question. You don't. You're like, sure, I would like to do that. Why do you not demur as people do in the past? Because I know that when I'm asked the question, are you qualified? Can you do this? Then I'm not just answering for myself.

2:48:45 I'm being asked this question because I don't look like what people usually look like when they're considered for these jobs. And I've learned over the course of my life, starting out as a young black girl in Mississippi, that if you don't speak up for yourself, then people will take that as permission to underestimate you. But more importantly, it gives them permission to underestimate everyone who looks like you, everyone who reminds them of you. So for every young woman, every young girl, every person of color who is been told not to dream. My responsibility is not only to dream, but to say it aloud. Who's telling anyone not to dream? First off, did you listen to that whole answer? He says she says when I'm asked if I'm qualified, I and then she throws out the race card. She never says that she's qualified. That is a crazy, crazy clip. Well, in fact, what she said is she is uniquely qualified according to her rules, her color and what she

2:49:43 Nice. And every black girl and every black boy who's told not to dream, who's going around telling people not to dream? Oh, we all know the answer to that. Hey, yo, don't dream, dumb shit. Give me a break. This is a lie. I'm gonna show my school by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. We're on No Agenda in the morning. I wonder if the incognigro still listens to our show. Oh, I hope so. I doubt it. He was told not to dream, so he won't listen to the show. Cal Bieber. $150. Sir Dirt Farmer comes in from Illinois. One, two, three, four, five. Sir

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Final Donor Credits, Value for Value Model

The final segment of donor credits includes contributions from "Sir Dirt Farmer" and "Sir Ho Chi Hung." The hosts reiterate that the show is sustained entirely by the "value for value" model, rejecting traditional advertising in favor of direct listener support and subscriptions.

value for value· donations· knighthood· subscriptions· anonymous

2:50:36 Ho Chi Hung, Baron of Ancient City, 12280. And he has a birthday slash flag day donation. So that's two times 6140. One for the president, one for a knight. Apologies for the light donation. So we're happy with it. Personal protection equipment of the metal flavor is spiking in price, lady. Oh, I guess he's talking about she's strapping. He's got his own PPE. Melissa Lubanao, $100, birthday donation for Smoking Hot Husband. It's her daddy cast in Richmond, Virginia, the daddy cast. Double Cairns on a dime, $98.10. Thanks. Baron Mark Tanner, as usual, $76.54 from Whittier. Just playing Inga in Monroe, Washington, $69. Steve Shevlin in... Can I just stop for one second? Inga is interesting.

2:51:33 Billy Bones, you know Billy Bones, right? Billy Bones. Oh, Billy Bones. Yeah, we got into a beef with him. We did? Yeah, his mail was lost. Oh, that's right. Well, this is, she's related. Hello, I used to be so annoyed by your show when Billy Bones, my hunk of burnin' love fiancé Alex, hit me in the mouth. Since COVID I've been addicted to shrinking my amygdala. Please accept this donation Please accept this donation. Alex is de-douching. Okay, so we'll do that You've been de-douching He douche. Billy Bones called him a douchebag and I can't stand for that. Not from Billy. Alex has been listening for a long time, so he's in fact a douchebag, but I can say that. We have been paying off debt, cash flowing, a wedding, and very essential. So he deserves it. Please play Love You Mean It, Orange Milk. Okay, well, we just pushed too many jingles here. Karma for his coworkers who sent to help our wedding in September. Thank you, fine gentlemen. I now love the show, says Inga Monroe.

2:52:36 Inga in Monroe, Washington and Karma at the end for that. Thank you Inga and we love Billy Bones. Steve Shevlin in Southampton, Massachusetts 61 14 he has a funny line. The devil's greatest trick is getting people to burn down their own houses, jobs, school and church. Some people never learn. That devil I tell ya. Sir not appearing on the podcast in Richland Washington's 5678 Jason Madruga in Eureka California 5555 Baron Bob of the high point in high point North Carolina 5532 he needs some F cancer mm-hmm yeah we'll do it for his he's getting surgery well let's do it right now then yeah we're doing it right now for that. You've got karma. Definitely want to do that now.

2:53:28 Ivar van der Velde in Winging-ing-ing-ing. No, it's 5510. Ivar van der Velde in Wageningen. Marcus Miller in Sugarland, Texas. That was 5510 from Ivar. 5510 from Marcus Michael Golian 5469 Rockford Illinois Jesus Martinez and Harrisburg Pennsylvania 5151 and he says rediscovered both y'all from Adams Joe Rogan experience used to watch MTV and twit the information you guys provide is both amazing and entertaining and he would appreciate a de-douching and jobs karma which is coming up you betcha you've been

2:54:16 He and his tantalizing girlfriend Deb are venturing into new business and they will need all they can get. Yes, so we got that special karma coming up for you, Jesus. Brian Burgess in Pelican Rapids, Minnesota. And that's 5033 Thomas Pompeo. Now, the following people are $50 donors, name and location. We'll run right through them, starting with John Bolin with a birthday coming up in Brockport, New York, 50. Sir Labrad of the Hill Country in Universal City, Texas. Dorian Ald in Akron, Ohio, with another birthday. Dame Patricia Worthington in Miami, Florida. Kimberly Alley in Allen, Texas. David Christofferson in Carmel, Indiana.

2:55:03 Tim Hiller in Parts Unknown, Michael Burlett in Odessa, Florida. Long note here from Peter Melancheli. Melancheli in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada has got a birthday and a bunch of... Yeah, I'll do it. Keep going. I'll pick it up. Okay. Robert Kerback in Essexville, Michigan. And last but not least, Brandon Savoie. Sir Brandon in Port Orchard, Washington. I want to thank all these folks for their contributions in helping produce show 1251. And Kimberly Alley in Allen, Texas has been listening nearly two years. It's her first donation. She's ashamed, she says, which you don't have to be and needs a major de-douche, you betcha. You've been de-douched. And I love the new people saying, hey, any consideration to adding a third show to the week? Remember, we used to be asked that a lot.

2:56:00 Well, we were promising it a lot. That's why people were expecting it. And we decided... By the way, I want to mention Jeffrey, Michael, and Joseph for maybe doing a Karen donation. We were using it as a promise. Oh, we're going to do three shows, three shows. This one of the show is like two hours. And then one, then we decided to drop it because the show was getting too long. And then we did a third show once. It just doesn't work. It doesn't work for the timing or anything. The news cycle... It doesn't work for the timing and it makes us tired. It starts to look like work when you do it three times a week. Because you got to do it on Sunday, Tuesday and Thursday. Yeah, it doesn't work. And so you never get that extra day off. You know, it's just a horrible. Yeah, it's a tough. You don't get any. You can't catch your breath. You can't do anything. It's horrible. It hurt the product as far as I was concerned. We just hurt the product. It wasn't three. I'd rather have two outstanding products than three mediocre.

2:56:59 Peter Melon Shelly in Edmonton, Alberta, longtime listener, first-time donor as well. Your show gives me a regular dose of sanity, keeps my amygdala in good health, find my attached donation. That's a Candanavian bucks. This is interesting. If he sent in 220 Candanavian bucks, why is he listed as 50? I just noticed this. Where is this? Line 41. That's interesting. I had to attach my donation to a 20 Canadian. I have no idea. I'm gonna treat him as... He's gonna have to clarify this and we have to figure out why it's in the 50 because 200 bucks is... Is associate executive producer territory. But why the 50? That's very odd. Let me see, was there a Peter up top? We'll fix it later. We can fix it later.

2:57:56 I don't know why it's 50. Okay, it's alright. We'll fix it later and if we don't fix it later we'll fix it on Thursday. It came in as 50. Go check your provider. We'll check, yeah, check your provider. Exactly. No worries. We'll figure it out. We're good for it. And I'm sure you are as well. Thank you to everybody who came in under $50. That is typically for anonymity. If people do like to be anonymous, that's just under 50. We'll never mention your name. Can never mess it up. No problems whatsoever. But it's also where people join our subscriptions and that is something that is sustaining and helpful And we'd appreciate if you take a look at that all of that and more and anyway for you to support the best podcast in the universe is available at our handy website which you can remember through this even so handy jingle to vorac.org Slash and a the car must has requested jobs jobs jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs You thought

CHAPTER 44 / 49 Discussion

Birthday Celebrations, Peerage Map Updates

A list of birthdays for the week of June 14th is read, coinciding with Flag Day. Sir Nick Foster is officially elevated to the rank of Baron, and Aaron Berman and Randy Holcomb are formally knighted into the No Agenda Round Table.

birthdays· peerage· knighthood· baron· flag day

2:58:54 It's your birthday, birthday! I'm so much younger! That is the 14th of June, it's 2020. We have a number of birthdays to celebrate today. Laura Moreno starts off saying happy birthday to her boyfriend, Matteo. It's his birthday today. Sir Nick Foster turns 25 today. Nathaniel Weirgao says happy birthday to his amazing wife Sue, and she turns, well we don't know it's her birthday today, also June 14th. Randy Holcomb turns the big 50, sees Abram today, Sir Hoji Hung, also celebrating today June 14th. Melissa Lubinao says happy birthday in advance to her smoking hot husband Kristoff, who'll be 36 on the 16th.

2:59:41 John Bollins says happy birthday to Johnny B. Dorian Ald, happy birthday to Adam DeNicola on tomorrow. Peter Melancheli, happy birthday to his daughter, Andromeda Romy Melancheli. She turned nine on the 12th. Happy birthday. And finally, Jennifer Oglee says happy birthday to her smoking hot husband, Matthew Oglee, celebrating on June 17th. Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. ♪ Happy birthday, yeah ♪ That's right, title change only one, but an important one. That is Sir Nick Foster who becomes a Baron today by upping another $1,000. Nick, thank you so much. And I don't know if you have a Barony selected, but just let us know.

3:00:37 put that on the peerage map for you. Then we have two knights, Aaron Berman and Randy Holcomb. I'm gonna grab my blade right there. Do you have yours handy? Yo! Yo! Aaron Berman and Randy Holcomb, step on up gentlemen. Both of you are about to become knights of the Noah-Jenna Round Table. You see here we've got the knights and dames at the coveted round table. All the goodies are splayed out there and I'm very proud to pronounce the case. The Sir Aaron Berman and Sir Randy Holcomb, Knight of the AS400. For you gentlemen, Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay. We've got, uh, Waifus and Waffles. We've got Fish Pie and Felicio, Brown Cheese and Aquavit and Small Hova. We've got Harlots and Haldol, Redheads and Rye, Brazilian Hotties and Chachaca. We've got Rubenes, Rumen and Rosé, Geishas and Sake, Vodka and Vanilla Bong, Hits and Bourbon, Sparkling Cider and Escorts.

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No Agenda Meetups, Community Gatherings

Upcoming No Agenda meetups are announced for Denver, West Linn, Charlotte, and Truckee. These gatherings allow listeners to meet in person and discuss the show's themes in a social setting, with all events listed at the official noagendameetups.com website.

meetups· denver· oregon· charlotte· truckee

3:01:31 Ginger ale and gerbils and of course we have mutton and meat. That's what everybody wants. You got an explanation. It's old stinky sheep But boy, do we love it at the round table along with mead which is bubbly champagne stuff. And if you go to noagendanation.com slash rings Eric the shill will hand out to you the ring the sealing wax and your certificate as soon as you get the information. And thank you again for supporting the show. It's very important that we know we all produce this together. The best podcast in the universe no agenda no agenda show.com NO AGENDA MEETUPS! It's like a party! Just like a party, the NO AGENDA MEETUPS are back in full force. Please everybody, don't back-channel me. Hey man, I got this on the calendar for three weeks from now. Promote it today! That's not how it works. We have an entire system.

3:02:23 And it took a while to set it up and we have approvals and I'm very proud of the work that has been done at noagendameetups.com. So I'm not going to take back channels. We read the list as it comes from the back office in the northwestern part of the United States of America. It's an undisclosed location. And here is the list. It's a good one. I'm going to do the next couple of weeks. June 17th, that's Wednesday. City Park sit-in, that is in Denver. The Western Plaza, Taylor & June organizing for you. On Friday, Oregon Local 33, the Willam Meetup, 6 o'clock. Tim organizing for you, Rain or Shine at Willamette Park, West Lynn, Oregon. On Friday, the Charlotte Meetup, this is the fourth one for them, 7 o'clock at Sycamore Brewing. Bill Cameron is organizing. Sorry, Bill.

3:03:10 Then we have June 20th. We have how many do we have on June 20th? My goodness eight eight of them in quick six now the 20th is Saturday. So here's what we got coming up in fast succession Motorcycle ride up in Truckee, California at 12 that is at the fast lane gas station in Truckee supercast low country meetup at the taco boy downtown at one o'clock that is is in North Carolina, I guess. Dame Jennifer Buchanan hosting for that. The West Texas Permain Basin Meetup Midland 2 o'clock at Little Woodrow's Midland, Texas. Sir Michael of Calgary and Vegas doing that for you. We have the local 406 Re-Up and Dame Hood celebration 3 p.m. at the

3:03:56 Baron Brewery, Alan Murray hosting for you. We have the second ever Central Shillinoisan Meetup, 333 on Saturday. That will be at the Riggs Brewery in Urbana, Illinois. The Flight 004 of the NO Agenda, new location, 333 p.m. on Saturday. Long Beach, Leo Bravo organizing a meet at the Steelcraft. First Western New York meetup, 4 o'clock at Battle Street Brewery in Dansville, New York. RSVP to Anthony Parker. It's all on noagendameetups.com. And finally, for Saturday, the No Agenda Three Mile Island EVAC Zone Meetup, 3 to 4 p.m., I guess. And that will be at a private location near Lewisbury, Pennsylvania. So you have to RSVP to SIR737. And next Sunday, June 21st, Bisbee, Arizona.

3:04:47 time, No Agenda Meetup, 3.33pm. Joe's Consignment, Sean and Joe Eddington are hosting for you. This is where you can get together with people who have their amygdalas in check. They're from all over the spectrum. Different race, religion, background, creed, education. You'll love it. I guarantee it. Noagendameetups.com. Go there now. Find out more. Sometimes you want to hang out with all the nights and days. It's just like a party nice fade out got a couple things okay, okay?

CHAPTER 46 / 49 Discussion

Seattle CHAZ Police Chief Carmen Best

Seattle Police Chief Carmen Best sent a message to her officers stating that the decision to abandon the East Precinct was not hers. She expressed frustration that officers were forced to retreat after being pelted with projectiles, calling the city's decision an insult to the department.

seattle· chaz· carmen best· capitol hill· police precinct

3:05:42 The Seattle situation is getting funnier. Oh, this is the Chaz, the Capitol Hill autonomous zone. Now you wrote it in the newsletter. We had a guy there. Boots on the ground. And it's like, it's basically... It's Amazon people. Yeah, it's Amazon people having burgers and listening to music and writing on the wall with chalk. Yeah. And there's a rumor going around which I can't, everyone that came up to the dinner table and they, you know, this, of course, no one could confirm it. I couldn't get any picture. Oh yeah, there's lots of evidence. Come on, show me some evidence. I couldn't get any. That they, the cops in the, at the Eastern Precinct building that they boarded up had actually put inside the building a bunch of pallets and cans of gasoline and kerosene. So

3:06:37 to catch the whole block on fire. But all the protesters saw this, they all saw it and said, this is a setup, we won't do it, we won't be used. So, but then again, no one could prove this and I don't know that even got in there to see take pictures, it sounds like bullcrap. But the Seattle police chief was irked and so she comes out and sends a private message to her troopers and then And she's a she's a really sorry. She's like she always looks like she's she just doesn't look the part of a police She's just sad all the time. She looks like she's gonna cry. She is sad because She was told to abandon ship. She couldn't believe that she had to abandon ship

3:07:19 Yeah, well here she is, Seattle Police Chief telling her troops and knowing that this is going to get out and irk the mayor. The decision to board at the precinct, our precinct, our home, the first precinct I worked in, was something I have been holding off. You should know, leaving the precinct was not my decision. You fought for days to protect it. I asked you to stand on that line, day in and day out, to be pelted with projectiles, to be screamed at, threatened, and in some cases hurt. Then to have a change of course nearly two weeks in? It seems like an insult to you and our community. Ultimately, the city had other plans for the building and relented to severe public pressure.

3:08:06 Yeah, are you sure that she that that was secretly recorded? I've seen that I've seen it around. It was she knew it's gonna get out. She did it on purpose. Meanwhile, the mayor and her gotten to did a press conference later and they talked about a little bit like the mayor kind of ignored it and she and the mayor comes out the mayor of sale comes out. It was really a You know, she's a classic old progressive, you know, shithead and she thinks this is great and the Chaz is fine and what's the big deal? And they're taking this very lackadaisical approach to law and order. It's like, you know, it's okay. This is fine. This has been, it's a tradition. She's pretty much, she says. So here's her like her discussion.

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Mayor Jenny Durkan, Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone

Seattle Mayor Jenny Durkan defended the "Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone" (CHAZ), describing it as a peaceful expression of First Amendment rights. The discussion notes the gentrification of the Capitol Hill area, which has shifted from a historically gay neighborhood to one dominated by Amazon employees.

jenny durkan· seattle· chaz· capitol hill· gentrification

3:08:50 Mayor of Seattle. Oh that's the one I've been looking at all day. I will continue to meet with community to listen. Okay, hold stop, stop the tape. What is this thing that, and you notice this with all the Democrats, they did it, Hillary did it in 2016 and now I'm hearing it a lot. We're, and Joe says it all the time, I'm going to listen, I'm going to listening. And then Hillary went, if you remember, she went on a listening tour. A tour where she went to listen. What is this? Isn't that what kind of part of your job? It's not like something you'd explicitly take out of context and say, well now instead of doing what I normally do, I'm going to listen. What, you haven't been listening? Is that what you're saying? You're saying you haven't been listening. I think that's pretty clear what they're saying. It's like we haven't been listening at all, but now we're going to listen. So now it's going, now it's finally going to happen. Start it over so we get back in the groove. I will continue to meet with community to listen.

3:09:50 My focus as mayor will remain on how we work to make Seattle a model for addressing the inequities that the pandemic and these last two weeks have made impossible to deny. Cal Anderson Park and Capitol Hill have been for decades a place for free speech and community. I've been going to Capitol Hill for almost 50 years and have demonstrated, hung out, and been with community many, many times. I just want to say, I know there's the anacronym that is now the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone. I got news for people, it's been autonomous my whole lifetime. And anybody who knows and loves Capitol Hill knows that to be true.

3:10:39 I want to make clear that for myself and for the city and for Chief Best, the First Amendment rights of residents must be protected and protesters must feel safe when they express their First Amendment rights. Over the past few days, we've had peaceful demonstrations across the city. We had an amazing demonstration in Rainier Beach in Othello, where thousands turned out. We expect additional marches and a strike tomorrow led by Black Lives Matter. Chief Best, Chief Scoggins, the Seattle Department of Transportation Director, our Director of Office of Economic Development, and the Director of Seattle Public Utilities have been on site on Capitol Hill since 6 a.m. today

3:11:22 since 6 a.m. Tuesday morning, making sure the community is safe, talking to protesters, talking to residents, and coming up with a plan for Capitol Hill going forward. So what exactly, how do you categorize that whole spiel she just did there? She is an old-fashioned progressive which are the people on the outs because it's the Millennials and the Youngers that are pushing them out. She is a target. She's going to get kicked out of office because she's not doing it right. I don't know what right means. But this ain't it. Whatever she's doing is not it.

3:12:01 And so she's kind of knuckled under and the protesters, they want to do a general strike, a kind of a strike or some quasi general strike in Seattle. And she's, okay, we're behind you all the way. So instead of bucking the protesters, she's, whatever they say goes. And it's irking them, a lot of the public, it's not irking the people in the Capitol Hill District because they get this little Party zone going on so they're having a pretty good time and it's not like Capitol Hill this area Used to be the most gay of Seattle was the gay areas the LGBTQ area

3:12:38 And now it's an Amazon area because all the gays got gentrified in terms of the people moving in. Just to know everybody, I want to know all the gays got gentrified. They got moved out. I love you, John. Well, actually, the funnier part, of course, if you want to go in that direction and ridicule me... No, I'm not ridiculing you. I'm protecting you. The gay community is usually the one that gentrifies. Of course. We know the fallacy of it all. I'm just laughing. Not really so they got booted pretty much kicked out for the Amazon folks because Amazon will pay more because they got more money And so that it's been like it's like a very twisted situation in this Chaz well also the Abil Hill what's his face? Raz the the so-called warlord leader or whatever. Yeah now this guy right here's going down to be accounted for but he's going down because

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Raz Simone Warlord Allegations, Homophobic Tweets

Raz Simone, often described as the "warlord" of the Seattle CHAZ, faces scrutiny after old homophobic tweets from 2010 were uncovered. The hosts speculate whether the "cancel culture" of the protesters will be enough to remove an armed leader from his position within the autonomous zone.

raz simone· chaz· seattle· twitter· cancel culture

3:13:31 Where do I have it? I had it in here. I believe that someone found some tweets where he was homophobic from years ago using the F word. So he's toast as far as I'm concerned. He's done. Yeah, he's done. Oh, here it is. I got the article. Chaz... what is his name? Raz Simone, yes. Raz Simone. Here's... Oh, this is actually from... When is this from? 20- 2010, December 7th, 2010. Ten years ago. Fair enough. It's fair game. Here it is. It is? Uh-huh. How's your rap censored? Haha, I couldn't even say it. Closest you get to being a rapper is being the poster boy for the faggot community, Malcolm. Yeah, see these things when they dig that up, it's not good. So he will be out- Well that reminds- yeah.

3:14:35 And that reminds me of the guy who got fired as the editor of Bon Appetit because he posted a picture of himself in bronzer. Oh gosh. And I've always said this and I've said it on this show, I've said it before, I've written about it. People who go on, if you remember some of these systems, Flickr, Google Pictures, all these things. Imager, Instagram. Many of these things are for all practical, Instagram is the worst offender at the moment. You're posting private information when you post a picture of yourself drunk at a bar giving the longhorns or devil sign and got your tongue hanging out and a beer glass in one hand and you go, oh, party. This is stupid.

3:15:28 And this is what the result is is what you're starting to see and this is gonna get everybody what will interest me So we have a social justice warrior, black I might add, skin color black, no idea if he's Ados or what he is, who is armed and he has armed militants by his side. Will the cancel culture beat the gun? Will he give up his position without a fight or will he start shooting people with iPhones tweeting that he's a horrible man? I'd love to know who wins this. Well, the cancel culture has had no luck going up against the Second Amendment people. And now I'm starting to, I'm looking at tweets and I'm seeing compromise where they're starting to say, well, you know, maybe guns are good for something. But this is not, this is not about owning guns. The guy has a gun in his hands and you're going to go up and say, hey man, that wasn't cool. You tweeted 10 years ago. Are these, are these kids brave enough to do that?

3:16:34 No. Is this Raz Simone? It's not about guns at the moment. Guns? If you haven't noticed, guns are off the table for the thing that you're painting. You don't understand what I'm saying. He is actually armed. Will he, when they come and say, you can't say faggot, will he take the gun and point it at them and say shut up or will he leave with his head drooping? That's my point. It's not about the gun. It's the fact he's holding it. Oh, you just think the guy's armed to the teeth and he's going to shoot at anybody who comes against him. He has guns in there. He's in video with guns. Oh no. So the kids inside, that's my question. Will they be able to remove him even though he is armed? They can remove him with their words. That's what I'm looking for. Shame, shame, shame. And out he goes. He comes out.

3:17:21 He probably won't be drooping his head, but he'll be holding his head high and he'll realize that he was made a mistake ten years ago. You really think so? And he will be contrite and he'll apologize and he'll leave with or without the guns. His guns are not going to be in play. Okay. All right. Well, then that's what a leader that is, huh? Are you allowed to shame a black man into leaving the camp? Well, this is going to be interesting. Yeah, he's probably the only black guy there from what I can tell. All right, I think we've had enough. Yeah, we've done enough damage. I think we do have one little thing if you want to just hear one funny little bit again, Glenn Greenwald going out blasting Ro Khanna who I mean this little Greenwald on George W. Bush I thought was worth a listen. This is again on the rising.

3:18:17 And Glenn, I want to read you a quote. This is from Ro Khanna to the Daily Beast. He says of Bush, I began my career in public service running against Bush's war in Iraq in 04, but no one doubts his commitment to tolerance and inclusiveness. Now, I mean, given your own record covering the Bush administration and the Iraq war, I mean, I'm not sure there was a lot of tolerance and inclusiveness in Abu Ghraib. I mean, just would love to hear a reaction to that notion that Bush was some saintly figure even though he just took the misguided view of invading Iraq. I mean this historical revisionism from liberals is so nauseating. I mean I you know and it may be my own personal experience I began writing about politics in 2005 late 2005

CHAPTER 49 / 49 Discussion

George W. Bush Historical Revisionism, Show Sign-off

The show concludes with a critique of liberal historical revisionism regarding George W. Bush, as some Democrats seek his endorsement against Donald Trump. The hosts sign off with a final "value for value" reminder and a montage of media clips featuring Anderson Cooper and Joe Biden.

george w. bush· ro khanna· iraq war· tucker carlson· sign-off

3:17:21 He probably won't be drooping his head, but he'll be holding his head high and he'll realize that he was made a mistake ten years ago. You really think so? And he will be contrite and he'll apologize and he'll leave with or without the guns. His guns are not going to be in play. Okay. All right. Well, then that's what a leader that is, huh? Are you allowed to shame a black man into leaving the camp? Well, this is going to be interesting. Yeah, he's probably the only black guy there from what I can tell. All right, I think we've had enough. Yeah, we've done enough damage. I think we do have one little thing if you want to just hear one funny little bit again, Glenn Greenwald going out blasting Ro Khanna who I mean this little Greenwald on George W. Bush I thought was worth a listen. This is again on the rising.

3:18:17 And Glenn, I want to read you a quote. This is from Ro Khanna to the Daily Beast. He says of Bush, I began my career in public service running against Bush's war in Iraq in 04, but no one doubts his commitment to tolerance and inclusiveness. Now, I mean, given your own record covering the Bush administration and the Iraq war, I mean, I'm not sure there was a lot of tolerance and inclusiveness in Abu Ghraib. I mean, just would love to hear a reaction to that notion that Bush was some saintly figure even though he just took the misguided view of invading Iraq. I mean this historical revisionism from liberals is so nauseating. I mean I you know and it may be my own personal experience I began writing about politics in 2005 late 2005

3:18:59 for really only one reason, which was that I thought that the abuses of the Bush-Cheney administration when it came to the war on terror, when it came to extreme executive power abuses and theories of executive power were extraordinarily menacing to basic... Basic what? The basic everything. It should have been clipped at menacing. But the thing is, is that the Democrats are trying to get George Bush to endorse Biden. This is what this is all about. But Bush has already said he won't do that. He says it's ridiculous. Am I behind? Is something else happening? No, no, you're ahead because supposedly it was reported in the various mainstream media that Bush was not going to endorse Trump. And so they assume that he's going to endorse Biden and it turns out that Bush actually says he didn't. He never said he wasn't going to endorse Trump. He wasn't saying anything.

3:19:54 Yeah, why does anyone care? So the whole thing was bull crap. Why does anyone care about old Bush, young Bush, that Bush, any Bush? Apparently, according to these guys, the Democrats are jacked up over the idea that Bush will turn on Trump. Believe me, Bush and Trump are no friends. There's no turning. It's just, you know, will he embarrass the Republican Party? I doubt that George Bush, George W. Bush is not going to do that at all. And again, who cares? Who cares? We care. We care. Yeah, we care because we care. We care about you, producers. We care about you.

3:20:35 And we have, let's see, we got a bevy of stuff happening here. Grumpy Old Ben with Sir Carl with a K, special guest next on the NoAgendaStream.com. We've got Jesse Coy Nelson, we've got some Fletcher, and what else do we have? I don't know who made this. I think we got it all. I think we got them all. Those are our end of show mixes and please remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA as we will return on Thursday. No doubt there'll be plenty to talk about and plenty to deconstruct. These shows are getting plenty long but it's worth it. Coming to you from Opportunity Zone 33 here in Austin, Texas, capital of the drone star state, FEMA region number six on the governmental maps. See you in the morning everybody.

3:21:23 I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak. We return on Thursday right here on No Agenda. Again, remember dvorak.org slash NA. Until then, adios, mofos! And such. It's Tickle Me Elmo. When your child tickles him, he talks. The president spoke from the Rose Garden and even as he declared himself, quote, that ally of all peaceful protesters. Who is the thug? He calls them thugs? I'm just gonna let it out. I'm just gonna let it out. It's Tickle Me Anderson Cooper. Who's the thug here? So stupid. He calls them thugs?

3:22:13 A black man killed with four officers holding him down with four officers holding him down. Fact check false. Stopping and frisking a young black man simply because he's a young black man. Fact check false. What was that? He's laughing like a girl, isn't he? Who's the thug here? I'm gonna say one thing, fuck Trump.

3:22:56 What's that? What we are seeing is people saying enough is enough. So we now have to kill upstanding black citizens because a non-upstanding black citizen, a career black criminal died. How can I support his fam? Well, we can start by learning. You do stupid things, you win stupid prizes. Who is the thug here? I got the Kaylie beat. I do like the Kaylie beat. I got the Kaylie beat. Kaylie beat. I got the K-Leap beat. I do like the K-Leap beat. You got a clubhouse. Hey Joe, this is really nice.

3:23:33 Yeah, it is. I'm having a really good time. I am too. I'm really happy you're here. Dance and move your legs around. A lot of twisty and kicky stuff. It's like dancing. That's not what this is. Loud music and it's all in rhythm and you've kind of got a group vibe going on. There's something really cool about doing stuff with a group of people. Everybody's pushing everybody. Come on, let's go. Now, I will say beware, my Tourette's will get significantly worse. That's fine. But that can be entertaining. That's not what this is. Cardio, of course, is fantastic. They also do weights. What are you crazy? Oh, is this my release? Yeah. No. Dance and move your legs around? Nope, I'm interested. Well, there's something beautiful about audio only. So I do the dancing. And I don't have my hearing aids in. I don't have my glasses on. So I'm kind of like pow, pow, pow, pow, pow, pow, pow. Whoa, what's going on? That's an amazing story, man. I like where you're coming from. People need community. Everybody needs community, particularly in Texas.

3:24:30 This is groundbreaking. Dude, you have a flip phone. Create less data. At least that kinda looks cool. I swear to God we didn't try to be a pirate crew. The best podcast in the universe! Adios, mofo. Dvorak.org slash N-A. Thanks for the lecture, idiot.