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00:00 Energy, energy, energy! Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. It's Sunday, April 12th, 2020. This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 1233. This is no agenda. Call now. And broadcasting live from Opportunity Zone 33 here in the frontier of Austin, Texas, capital of the drone star state. In the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where people are getting a little skittish, I'm John C. DeVore. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. Skittish? Yeah, you know, they're calling the cops because people are walking around. Oh, really? This is only certain states, though. I don't think this is happening everywhere. I haven't heard anything in Texas.

00:46 There are some states where they've arrested people like Cincinnati, apparently. On the beach, running. Stop, you fool! They're gonna arrest you. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I agree. Some guy got rousted and arrested for playing t-ball with his kid because it wasn't six feet apart. Yes, yes, well things are changing and there's some very interesting changes going on actually I think better for us Everyone's now all show business has changed dramatically. We saw the we saw everyone staying home We've seen all the Instagram videos. Everyone's kind of sick of that now the people who are on television every single day They're they're ready to go Hollywood. They're all starstruck. They're all a part of it, which of course would include our very own dr. Death himself

01:40 Anthony Fauci, who just, you know, as you get interviewed these days on CNN, they throw in the question. Saturday Night Live is back this weekend. After a month of being off, what do you think the chances are that somebody will portray you? I have no idea. I hope not. Well, if they did, which actor would you want to play you? Here are some suggestions that I've heard. Ben Stiller, Brad Pitt. Which one? Oh, Brad Pitt, of course. Don't choose the Jew. It's fitting. Dr. Fauci, we really appreciate your time. We know how busy you are. Thank you very much for all of the information. It's always good to be with you. Thank you. You too. Thank you. Oh, yeah, thanks. Oh, you're going to be in SNL this weekend? Well, he's lucky. The shark has been jumped, as it turns out.

02:35 When you take Hollywood level production, television in particular is what I'm talking about now. When you take away their technology, when you take away their studios, the facade, they are really quite unimpressive. When you take away the audience, the laugh track, they're really quite unimpressive. And they did a whole Saturday Night Live at home Which was the format... Oh, I missed this. Oh, yeah. Oh, no, you missed absolutely nothing because I have the most pertinent clips for you here. So they did it like a Zoom conference video and unbelievably amateuristic. And what I was thinking is that we've spent the last 20 years, arguably 15, 20 years honing our skills, creating a type of content that doesn't fit on television.

03:37 And it's, I mean, you and I, we know how to switch. We can move to TV. It's very annoying if we have to do any mainstream TV these days. So restrictive. It's dumb. It's just dumb. I don't even... Can't do it in your underwear. No, I don't even, don't even answer emails for years. Can't slide out of bed and get to the mic, scramble the mic. All that important stuff. But kidding aside the end product. This is not a radio show this it has very different parameters We've got a troll room we have people making clips and participating actively in the in the production Well, this is what the Hollywood production levels don't understand they think oh if we're at home We just have shitty sound and a webcam and then we're cool like the cool kids You know the B team over here who haven't quite risen yet to our level. I

04:23 But the veil was removed during Saturday Night Live as you have to take away, as I said, the audience, the laugh track, and even the jokes become cringe and just horrible. I picked up a minute and a half of the opening with, of course, if you're going to do something during a pandemic lockdown coronavirus, you might as well get Tom Hanks to host it for you. Ladies and gentlemen, Tom Hanks! And he's in his house. Hey, hey! Oh, whoa, thank you! Thank you, that is a... That is some sound effect of applause and whistles. Thank you, thank you. Thank you, engineers. Hey, all you cool cats and kittens. It's me, your old pal. Don't worry now, don't be afraid. This shaved head was just for a movie and my hair is growing back very slowly.

05:18 It does save time in the shower, so I don't know, maybe we should all do it, huh? I mean, so first joke out of the gate, flat into the second. Hey, it's good to be here, though it is also very weird to be here hosting Saturday Night Live from home. It is a strange time to try and be funny, but trying to be funny is SNL's whole thing. So we thought, what the heck, let's give it a shot. But why me as host? Well, for one, I have been the celebrity canary in the coal mine for the coronavirus. Uh-huh. Yeah, that's what we call it too, Tom. Mm-hmm. And ever since being diagnosed, I have been more like America's dad than ever before, since no one wants to be around me very long, and I make people uncomfortable. Please clap.

06:12 Now I was diagnosed back in March with the coronavirus. I was first diagnosed down in Australia. Now the folks in Australia are fantastic in every way, but they use Celsius instead of Fahrenheit when they take your temperature. So when they come in and they say, yeah 36 Which seemed very bad to me, but turns out 36 is fine 38 is bad. So basically it's how Hollywood treats female actors So this went on for six minutes John and without the laugh without the studio audience Even the lame jokes don't get that, you know, his timing is there. It's your typical comedic timing, but it's just it's

06:59 Horrible. Well, yeah, it's really bad. Well, and here and here's it makes you wonder if you could take the laugh track off the regular show. How bad it would be. Well, the problem is, you know, you get a laugh and you pause and it gets you time to rethink about where you're headed or you or your bomb and you back up a little bit. Maybe you drop the next joke. Well, there's a lot of interaction that's not being had here at all. Yes, and again the podcasters, the YouTubers, we figured out how to make content that is funny, interesting, dramatic, etc. We figured out the format. They don't know. And we do it without studio audiences. But where it really falls apart, because there's one other thing that Saturday Night Live in particular has, and that's hair and makeup.

07:50 So even, you know, to think that they'd have any person go to one of these actors homes and do some hair and makeup. Now we can't have that, of course. And you really notice how poorly Alec Baldwin imitates Trump when it's just Trump on the phone. And it's just a picture of him looking like Trump in his SNL Trump wig and facial grimaces. But it really falls apart, and it was a part of Weekend Update, which also sounded like this. A lot of Americans have been watching President Trump's daily press conferences. Calling into our show right now, this is very exciting, for an official update on the pandemic, is President Donald Trump. Thank you so much for joining us, Mr. President. So what's the latest with the virus? Well, I'm happy to report Colin that America is now number one in the world for coronavirus.

08:47 Number one while I was president hashtag America number one hashtag not important why? You seem almost excited about it. Well, my approval rating is up my TV ratings are through the roof. Every night at 7pm all over New York claps and it just sounds like Alec Baldwin doing a bad Trump impression. Yeah, that and the Skype yodeling which is I don't understand why they can't get a decent connection. Well, you'd think. I mean, we did a show once and I was at the Yotel. Yes. On their Wi-Fi at the Yotel in New York, Manhattan, where many of these people are. And it was fine. It was, they didn't have to look the constant, constant yodeling once in a while. Okay. Yeah. Well Skype, but no, this is constant. They all have their heads in a bucket.

09:38 Yeah. Oh yeah, the heads in the bucket is horrible. Yeah, that's so lame. What does it take for these guys to just, I mean, Jenna marbles, they should hire her. I mean seriously or shoe on head or any of these women that are out there doing these podcasts that are Do a decent job if they wanted to do it right they would have had it with a herky jerk That herky jerk editing technique where you say what your heads over here, so over there is jerking around so it's real tight There's a lot of techniques have been developed for video podcasts and well, okay, obviously one of them well exactly They don't understand it

10:19 They were they literally do not understand the concept they could have done a whole takeoff of Youtubers and podcasters that would have been funny, too That would have been much funnier than what you're playing Yeah, it was it's just horrible, and it's so hard to do you know you got delays if people are talking back and forth It's just yeah, yeah, it's very so anyway entirely unimpressive once you take away all of their stuff and And I don't think they had writers rooms either. Typically you have a little writer's room, you can get something going. Yeah, I get the sense that these guys wrote a lot of their own stuff.

10:56 So it's because of this and also this next clip that I'd like to play which is not SNL. It's from The View but it portrays and they also they're doing The View at home. So it's the same same concept and again you know you get to see everybody's house which is... Kind of interesting, but it's what she said which is consistent Amongst opinion shows in the mainstream is kind of what led me to do what I did for today's rundown I just don't even think that this is sunny, uh, Hauston. She's the, uh, she's a lawyer on the show. Network should even air these press conferences. I think they are akin to Trump's rallies. I think they're dangerous for the American public. I mean, I almost think that you listen to them at your own peril. You know, February 26, you have Donald Trump saying,

11:50 There were 15 cases of coronavirus in the United States, known cases, because there wasn't a lot of testing. He was saying things like, we're going to get control of this and it'll be down to zero. As of today, we have about almost 10,000 deaths in the United States. We have 338,000 cases, known cases, because again, there isn't enough testing. So the fact that people are tuning in at seven 7pm on a Sunday night and listening to all of this misinformation, I think is endangering American lives. I don't even know at this point why people are tuning in and why networks are broadcasting it. I think you don't tune in, networks don't broadcast it, and then on the back end, you only listen to people like Fauci, perhaps like Sanjay Gupta, but you don't listen to them in real time because I think people's lives are at stake.

12:42 This is not just this is not her alone. There's a lot of this. It's a meme. Yeah, and I know that there's two memes going out. One is that we should stop listening to Trump. president yeah telling us what he feels like telling us we should no no no we shouldn't listen to him for anything because you might I don't know why because it's gonna kill people lives are at stake so let's so let's talk about that very issue which is the he's been accused of pumping snake oil fake drugs drugs that don't work unproven unscientific against Fauci against Fauci

13:23 So this is a continuous, I watch all of these briefings. I watch them forward, backward, I take copious notes, I clip little bits and pieces from it because it's the only place, because of this attitude of Sonny Hauston, that you actually get any information. And if only, as she said, on the back end, you know, we'll get all the important things out. Well, no one's doing that. They're just getting the most of the journalists gotcha questions and that kind of stuff. But when we talk about the drugs in particular, there's been a change. And the change is obvious as Fauci is now, instead of pushing the vaccines hard, and I think there must have been a talk, he must have had a talking to somewhere, instead of pushing the vaccine really hard, now he's pushing not one, not two, not three, fuck, ten, ten clinical trials, which have nothing to do with hydroxychloroquine, although they may have the same

14:18 Effect and here's how he describes what's going on. I think it's clear from his intonation That he's finally happy kind of the other thing that's some just broad general good news from the standpoint of a scientific standpoint that there are a lot of candidate potential therapeutics that are going into clinical trials now that we're sponsoring at the NIH, the kinds of clinical trials that will give us the answer. Are they safe? Are they effective? And just what is the capability of using them under what circumstances? As prophylaxis, as treatment in early disease, in late disease. So as the time goes by and we have the public health measures to try and contain this,

15:00 We're doing an awful lot from a scientific standpoint so that when we do get to next year, next fall, next winter, hopefully we'll have something that we can offer in addition to the very important public health measures. In addition to hydroxychloroquine, no, none of that. And of course the NAID, that's his shop. So he's all jacked. Yeah, we got 10 clinical trials. Yeah, it's great. We're doing it. And maybe for the winter they'll be ready. Nothing for now because we need the official medication. We can't have some generic thing that is out of patent. And the truth wants to come out in this next clip from the president. Because the one that is being pushed, and I think we identified this early on, is Remdesivir, an antiviral, which is, I think it's been around for a while, hasn't it? Remdesivir is not new, is it? It's just new for this application? Yeah.

15:53 And that's made by Gilead. So we've heard that was the first name out of the gate for any work was Gilead, weeks ago. And now here's the president and he will talk about one of these other drugs besides hydroxychloroquine. But the truth wants to come out. Listen to what he says through the FDA's coronavirus treatment acceleration program 19 therapies and treatments are now being tested and 26 more are in the active planning or clinical trial. So we have 19 therapies being tested currently and 26 more are in the active planning for clinical trials. That's a big statement. That's a lot trials for

16:36 Gilead's anti-rival drug remdesivir I mean that is it did the truth want to come out with that or what? Anti-rival drug you can almost see him saying that on purpose Anti-rival yeah, that is exactly what it is Gilead's anti-rival drug Remdesivir continue and the company has also expanded emergency use for new patients getting good early results by the way. The companies that manufacture hydroxychloroquine are massively ramping up production. There you go. As you know many people are recommending strongly Z-Pak be added. The Z-Pak

17:27 And also zinc and the federal government continues to build our stockpiles and distribute millions of doses for doctors to use as they see fit. So I don't know, I have a feeling he might have said it on purpose because he launched into hydroxychloroquine and the Z-Pak and the zinc. Maybe it's just my... No, I don't know if he did it on purpose, but he definitely had it on his mind. But, you know, they'll just say, hey, just a dummy can't read. Exactly. So we had the kind of minor fracas about African-Americans. This started up, I think it was on Wednesday or Thursday, we just, no, Thursday morning I think is when it just started to break that African-Americans are, I think was it 23% more than they represent of the entire makeup of the country is getting infected. They're higher than they should be. Yeah, it's much higher than they should be.

18:30 So the Surgeon General, let me see, I have, yeah this is Yamiche actually. She asked a question in the press briefing, I think it was on Thursday, and it kind of gives us the idea as to how this will be spun. You know, we initially said, oh this will of course be Trump is killing black people in the street, leaving them to die. Yamiche Alcindor from PBS Kind of takes it there. Stay at home? Ah, shoot. Can I ask you also about the African-American disparities? I have a question for you and a question for the Surgeon General. For you, Mr. President, we know that these health disparities have existed for a long time among African-Americans, Latinos, and other people of color. Why did the administration possibly have a plan directed at those communities to prevent high death rates, knowing that the health disparities were there? The way I hear what she's saying is, why didn't you help black people from being killed

19:32 especially if you knew that there were health disparities. It's just... That's kind of what she said, but it was done in a way that it's a gotcha question because you can't really not answer it. First of all, questions that these reporters use that involve a premise of their own creation are really unfair chicken shit questions, just to put it mildly, because the premise is arguable. then the premise is that these people are gonna die if anything at all happens to them because they're being screwed by the system, which is all the underlying beliefs of these sort of reporters. She's a very left-wing liberal reporter. And if you allow that to be the premise for the question, then you've already lost the answer. I mean, and that's what she's doing. It's really very poor. I don't think she's a good journalist. I think she should be replaced by

20:30 another person of color that actually has talent. Well the president did answer it and I think in the only way he could. Knowing that the health disparities were there. Well we do have a plan and one of the things I'm most proud about is what I've been able to do for the African-American community. Yikes! The lowest job numbers in history. Pull the pants! That's exactly what he did. I don't know if he got it from Pence or Pence got it from him, but it's good. You get the idea.

21:12 Turned it around. That was beautiful. I've never seen, never does that. He usually just, well with her, I think he's learned his lesson. Yes, yes he has. He's blasted her a number of times for being a bonehead and he's gotten so much flack for it that he's decided, okay, I'll play a different game. Now he's playing Pence's game. It's technically now we call that pulling a Pence. Pulling a Pence. Pulling a Pence. It's a jiu-jitsu move. Totally. In general, he's much better with the journalists. He's hit his stride. He's hit his groove, even with the annoying questions. He's still pretty good. I do want to go back to this Black American issue, because the day before, the Surgeon General Jerome Adams made a statement addressing specifically communities of color. Stay at home if possible.

22:03 If you must go out, maintain six feet of distance between you and everyone else. And wear a mask if you're going to be within six feet of others. Wash your hands more often than you ever dreamed possible. Avoid alcohol, tobacco, and drugs. And call your friends and family. What? Why do you have to avoid alcohol? This is a classic... Oh, don't drink. Hold on, hold on. This will come back. This question will come back. People need to be drinking alcohol. I just went to Total Wines with Mimi yesterday and the place was packed with people loading up with gin. Did you say people need to be drinking?

22:43 Yeah, it's very important, right? It's an important part of our regime. I think so. And call your friends and family checking on your mother. She wants to hear from you right now. Speaking of mothers, we need you to do this, if not for yourself, then for your abuela. Do it for your granddaddy. Do it for your big mama. Do it for your pop pop. We need you to understand, especially in communities of color, we need you to step up and help stop the spread so that we can protect those who are most vulnerable. Now, I agree with you that the alcohol comment stuck in in my mind as well. Yamiche had other issues with what the, and who's, in case you didn't know, the Surgeon General Jerome Adams is American descendant of slavery. He's a black man, but here's the question from a black woman.

23:35 Thank you, Mr. Secretary General. I have a quick question for you. You said that African-Americans and Latinos should avoid alcohol, drugs, and tobacco. You also said do it for your abuela, do it for big mama, and pop pop. There are some people online that are already offended by that language and the idea that you're saying behaviors might... I love... They're offended by him saying you're pop pop and you're big mama. Offended by that language. How not- I mean, you are wasting actual physical space now, Yamiche. with the National Medical Association, with others. I actually talked with Derek Johnson multiple times this week, the head of the NAACP, and we need targeted outreach to the African American community, and I use the language that is used in my family.

24:37 I have a Puerto Rican brother-in-law. I call my granddaddy granddaddy. I have relatives who call their grandparents big mama. So that was not meant to be offensive. That's the language that we use and that I use. And we need to continue to target our outreach to those communities. It is critically important that they understand it's not just about them. And I was very clear about that. It's not just about what you do, but you also are not helpless We need to do our part at the federal level We need people to do their parts at the state level and we need everyone black brown white Whatever color you are to follow the president's guidelines. I got to ask Moe about that Is it like some black card check or something? She did on him. It's very bizarre

25:20 Don't know I think I have no idea why she asked that question that in that way well She said that people were irked by it. They were upset people Twitter Twitter! Hello? Where else are the people that the journos listen to? They're on Twitter. They just listen to each other. But the president, he loves him, his big black man, I'll tell you that. And I can tell you, Jerome has done a fantastic job, our surgeon general. I just hope nobody steals him and he goes to one of these big companies for a fortune. Don't leave us, right? Don't leave us to replace. You are happy and you're doing a great job and everybody everybody tells me that too, so we appreciate it. That's not good news. The president. No, I feel like you're a you had an analysis of this guy when you call him Mike Tyson. Yeah, about three show two or three shows ago where you brought up the fact that he doesn't do what he should be doing, telling us how to exercise and things. Now he's telling us not to drink.

26:17 He's now just a teetotaler, who knew? Stay home, don't drink, get depressed, shoot yourself. I don't find him very impressive either. But he can read a script. He handled Yamiche's question quite nicely. Yes, I will say I feel that he is, and that's training man, this guy's trained. He's got media training and he'd buy the book and he's pumping it out. But I mean come on man if if you're a black man and black people are pissed at the way you're talking What is wrong with the world because you said pop pop and big mama? big cheese have very bizarre We oh yes, this was cool the OAN reporter is came back and

27:10 The one American news reporter which is the one with way too much hair and she wears her shorts and she's got tons of makeup. That's the blonde? No, brunette, almost black hair. Oh, okay. Yeah, Rony I think her name is. Rony the Rona-journo. And she's all the way in the back, and this was a, to me, scripted, she was given this question, asked this question, the president has something to say, and this is about Venezuela. She brings up something I had not read, I hadn't heard of, about China apparently encroaching on Venezuela, and she asked the president about it.

27:51 She may be an incredibly good journalist. Okay, yeah. I was gonna say we do know about this. We have discussed China and Venezuela before but this was months and months ago. Yeah, yeah, but something new has happened that she knew about. Your administration has placed a $15 million bounty on Venezuela's Nicolas Maduro. And we have news this morning that President Xi is talking with Nicolas Maduro, expressing his financial support for Maduro. So two questions. One, have you discussed with President Xi the US policy on Maduro? And two, are you going to

28:29 What is how does this affect US policy with regards to its war on anti-nuclear policy? We will not be happy if that takes place. I have not spoken to President Xi of China about Venezuela, about that aspect of Venezuela. But if that took place, we will not be happy. Okay? Okay? I will not be happy. Are you concerned that he's opening up another financial opportunity? I'm concerned about everything. I'm concerned about everything. That's why I don't sleep a lot. I get myself concerned about everything, but I would not be happy about that. Go ahead. I'm pretty sure that question was planted. And for you know, well, she's way in the back. That's probably wasn't they? Yeah, he was cued to call on her Yes, and the setup, you know, I don't know and he was saying I'm really not gonna be happy if that's true Which it was just to send a message It's a mess sending a message to sheep. Yeah, I've gotten the correct pronunciation is she she

29:29 Apparently Trump pronounces it very well according to people who live in China. Then we had the... I'm sorry? The X is very confusing too. It is, yeah. For me I want to say a she but it's she. She. We heard the bonehead reporter who asked the question about oil and then Trump said, you know, what's the price of oil? I didn't know the price and the guy said, all right, goodbye. Ended his career right there. Well, some smart reporter figured that one out. Thank you, Mr. President. Oil is trading today at about $23 a barrel in New York. You can hear him go, yeah, yeah. It's like, I'm in, I'm in. Oil is trading today at about $23 a barrel in New York. What would you want to see the price? Do you want it at $30, $40, $50 a barrel? Well, I want to see it where there's a certain market, but I also don't want to see it where people have no idea. We're opening up

30:25 We'll be opening up areas for storage of oil, massive areas for storage of oil. about the OPEC Plus calls, this is the oil producing economic countries and the United States and Mexico in this case. And I haven't seen a lot of reporting on what has been going on, I'm sure you have the financial press, but he explained this reasonably well at his, I think his Friday briefing. And it's very interesting that, you know, we're essentially

31:01 Hooking up Mexico. We're helping them out to get the price of oil up significantly. So the OPEC nations met, they've been meeting and you know I've hated OPEC over the years, absolutely hated them but obviously it broke down. And we potentially have years worth of supply, a long time before it ever can catch up, even if they do reduce it. And they agreed, but Mexico didn't agree. It was one of the few countries that didn't agree. This is OPEC plus. These are OPEC plus countries outside, you understand? And Mexico didn't agree. And I understand the president very well. He has a level when he came in and he wanted to keep it at that level. Oil is important for Mexico. The problem is, and I explained it very strongly, you know, you're going to be selling it for

31:46 $5 or $10 a barrel. So in the end, it's bad. But he did have some political difficulty with it, frankly, and I understand that too. And it's a small amount for us. It's a large amount for Mexico, but it's a very small amount for the United States being the biggest producer. So I agreed to pick up some of the slack. So he was going to reduce it by 100,000 barrels, reduce his output by 100,000 barrels. and I was going to pick up the slack and they would make it up to us at a later date. They would make up what we're doing at a later date. It could be in a different form. I don't know whether or not that's going to be for Mexico was acceptable. I don't know whether or not that's going to be acceptable to the other oil producing nations. We'll find out.

32:30 And I've learned over the years... What? How much money do we have as a country? Wow. Well, I've learned over the years in a business deal if someone says to you... The age groups... If someone says, we'll make you whole on the back end, which I think is what Mexico just said to us, it will make you whole. No, no, we said that to them. No, they are going to make us whole. They owe us because we're gonna take a 250,000 barrel cut. That doesn't work out. No, he should have said I'll just add it to your wall bill. How about that? I'll add it to the tab. Oh, that would have really irked that woman from the view. That would have been the thing to say. Just add it to Mexico's tab. Very interesting though.

33:19 It's I mean he really to do that he really wants it over time Working overtime is absolutely right also over time Working overtime is the data. Yeah, I think we're now pretty much completely aware that the data is Overblown with the analysis of the data is overblown the core data itself is absolutely bullcrap numbers being inflated for a number of reasons. I just have a couple of short clips to To run through the latest status of the numbers the literally the models and the numbers let's put it that way here's Fauci Telling us again trying to explain Why it's all great what's happening because the models are really they're just not models But they're kind of a thing and well you get the idea. I know I sound like a broken record. That's good I want to sound like a broken record. Let's just keep doing it and

34:19 I get questions a lot, Dr. Birx and I, about these numbers, the projections that you went with from 100,000, 200,000, now down to 60,000. That's a sign that when, as I keep saying, when you take the data you have and you reinsert it into the model, the model modifies. Data is real. Model is hypothesis. Oh. Okay? So that's what you have to do, and that's what I think we're seeing. I got it. Data is real, models are hypothesis. Okay. Well, I was going to equate this to the global warming model. Well, sadly, based upon this model, we got a lot of hospitals ready. We canceled all of the elective surgeries. We cut everything down. We're waiting for the surge.

35:05 And it's not coming. The 250-bed Army Field Hospital was set up inside the cavernous CenturyLink Field Event Center. It was ready to begin receiving patients later this week, but now there's a sudden change in plans. Washington Governor Jay Inslee announced the state, the Defense Department, and local officials agree the field hospital should redeploy to another state in more dire straits. Washington state has flattened the curve, as they say. The worst fears from a few weeks ago when the call went out to Fort Carson, Colorado, were not realized. Emergency managers and local hospital leaders tell Inslee's office they have sufficient capacity to handle the expected volume of COVID-19 patients. And this is happening everywhere. Hospitals are furloughing hundreds of employees.

35:57 Yes, we have notes from a number of producers saying that they're getting laid off at these hospitals and the hospitals themselves are losing money. Yes, and they apparently early on found a way to combat that and this is State Senator Scott Jensen, I think his name is. He's also a medical doctor. He's in Minnesota. And he explains the reimbursement for hospitals based upon type of ailment people have. as it pertains to COVID. I would rather have people draw their own conclusions. Let me just say this, if I admit a patient to the hospital and they're in Medicare and they have just routine pneumonia for a diagnosis,

37:00 The hospital will get a lump sum payment called a DRG and it'll be about $4,600. If I admit that same patient and I attach COVID-19 to the pneumonia diagnosis, then it goes from $4,600 to $13,000 for that admission, regardless of whether the patient's in a hospital for three days or 13 days. If during that hospitalization I put the patient on a ventilator for a period of time, then the payment goes from $13,000 to $39,000. Now that's a big payment. You're not going to see many out-state hospitals get access to those kind of dollars.

37:37 When you start talking about these things, then I think people can understand the context of how critical this is. That it isn't a fair playing field. And we've got hospitals in outstate Minnesota that are not going to get the same kind of attention or monetary support. So this is a little freaky, knowing that getting someone onto the ventilator Pops up the reimbursement to 39 K and right they're getting these ventilators You know there I don't know if we're if anyone's paying for them at the moment. I'm sure maybe some of the ventilators were about five grand and they've jacked the price up many of these places that have Cancelled their contracts and now they're selling the same ones for $15,000 because that they could do the sales pitch you've seen the Silicon Valley sales pitch for technology. Yeah, I

38:27 You're gonna pay $15,000 for this ventilator. It pays for itself with one person on the ventilator. Right? With the $40,000, right? So the $15,000 is not a lot to pay. Well, when I was only paying five before. Well, it's okay. You look at the profits you're gonna make from these. Now, I wanna add to this thesis of yours, which is to say, I've all and the numbers prove this out and I mentioned it in the newsletter about the 10% of the Italians that were dying of COVID. Actually, COVID deaths, yeah. Was 10% of the total number. So the total number in Italy should be knocked down by 10%. Maybe Spain's pulling a stunt too. In the United States, we have this ridiculous situation where California has very few COVID deaths compared to New York, even though with twice the population and probably three times the homeless population of New York.

39:20 I have to say, and having worked in the government and worked with guys from New York and New Jersey, at the air pollution, who are inspectors there. New York is corrupt, this is a scam. New York is stealing people's money, is stealing the money of the taxpayer. I'm not believing anything. I'm believing those movies they keep taking down from YouTube, showing the empty hospitals, and then the day before, showing a staged event in front of the hospital as though New York's falling apart. New York is the problem. ♪ John C. Devorak's Pet Peeve of the Day ♪ I always love a perfectly timed pet peeve. There you go. Well, to add to that, this news of course is getting around. People are questioning the billing codes, how it works, how much money. There's enough examples of people admitting, even Dr. Birx herself admitted, that you die, you got COVID, you're marked as a COVID-19 death. However, interestingly enough,

40:23 Now the chances of once you're on the ventilator, what is it? It's like 20% chance. You're gonna get off. You're the 80% chance of dying Was that the number 50 to 80 to die 50 to a 50 to 80 to die 10 to win 50 80 to die Well, miraculously, amidst all of this billing confusion, we get a little statistic thrown at us from Dr. Birx. Age groups who really need hospitalization, ICU, the innovative pieces coming from, we heard a great report from Louisiana this morning on the phone call where they talked about

40:59 A minimum now of 40% of people coming off of ventilators alive and leaving the hospital. This is very encouraging to us. It really shows amazing progress clinically at each of these hospitals and the real lessons that we're learning and sharing across hospitals. Clinically, huh? I wonder, is that because they're using hydroxychloroquine? Is that because they figured out that maybe they were using the ventilators incorrectly? Well, the range has always been 50 to 80 percent, which she's describing as 60 percent. If 40 percent are coming off alive, that means 60 percent of the people on the ventilator are dying. But I thought it was higher. I thought it was more like 80 to 90 percent. She seems really happy. I always thought it was 80 plus.

41:45 Die no. No, it's 50 to 80. It was very clear. We had a clip that the outlander quite nicely and 80 is a number that's not but this is 60. This is not good. I just want to hear it What do you remember it was an NPR report? So many clips, yeah, I don't worry about it, but it could also be that the But she's surprised about the numbers, so something is different that she notices no matter what. This is part of the problem. What's the benchmark? She thinks 60% chance of dying is good? I mean, this is all very disturbing.

42:26 But not quite as just... By the way, I want to mention that in corruption studies in the United States, Louisiana may be the most corrupt state. Fact. Love it. Well, they also got a lot of need for vents. And this was one of the big things. No wonder hospitals wanted vents. Give us extra ventilators. We can always say we put someone on it. Put two on that guy. The most disappointing thing has been Dr. Drew. Dr. Drew is not just backpedaling, he has flipped the canoe upside down and has done a 180. Yeah, I understand this, but I have to know this now. Who does he work for?

43:12 Does he have a syndicated show? Is he working for one of the big networks? One of the Chinese controlled networks? No, no. This clip I think will be self-explanatory. Okay. Recall that he used to work for what he called the Fauci army. The Fauci army of fear during the HIV AIDS crisis. And he was out and we had a clip where he said specifically that was my job was to scare people about what's going on. And he's been very vocal that this is not like it like a flu. Well, 180 from Dr. Drew with some telling little tidbits. I am expressing my deepest apologies for getting it wrong at the beginning comparing coronavirus to influenza. That was wrong. What I did get right was telling everybody after I stated my position to be sure you listen to Dr. Fauci because he should always be your North Star. He will get it right no matter what. I think that's your answer, John?

44:06 Whoever he works for he got a call and it's like remember me. I'm the angel of death. Dr. Fauci You must always tell them I'm right stated my position to be sure you listen to dr Fauci because he should always be your North Star He will get it right no matter what and he has been and I was convinced would always be The person we should listen to and follow his direction and nothing more and nothing less. Okay again, we are Getting lots of threats. Oh, that's I'd like us to please ask that you stop. So let me see. Dr. Fauci is the man to believe always always always I've been getting some threats and that we get together This is a time for collective effort not for scapegoating So I was engaged in a bit of loser think by comparing numbers. I have a lot of numbers in my head. Holy shit Did you hear that?

45:02 Yeah, plug for Scott's book. How about they're both deranged? Maybe they're talking because he's not talking about the book. He's saying I suffered from loser think it's the title of his book. Yeah, and looking at Scott Adams the way he's been reacting recently. I wonder if either those two have been talking or both of them got a call. Well, I don't think, okay, here's what, play, is there more to play? Yeah, I'll just play the rest of it. We got thoughts. This is a time for collective effort, not for scapegoating. So, I was engaged in a bit of loser think by comparing numbers. I had a lot of numbers in my head. I was dealing with 100,000 people dying of opiates and drugs every year. I was dealing with a billion people infected with H1N1 and 500,000 40 to 60-year-olds dying of that, 24 million flu cases and 30 to 60,000 dying of that. Those numbers were in my head as I was trying to compare this outbreak to that.

45:59 And I shouldn't have been doing that. I should have been just addressing this outbreak as what it was. I didn't understand the ferocity of this virus and its contagiousness. And now my heart and soul is with New York City, which is where I spend a lot of my time. I've signed up for the New York and California Health Court, and I'll be part of the front line if I should be needed. Collective compliance. I'm writing that one down from the troll room. Well, he's complying, that's for sure. Well, I think... You know the scene in Network? Okay, which one? I know the movie. At the end where the guy, the crazy... Howard Beale? Howard Beale goes into the office of Ned Beatty, the network... Yes, it's a classic. You don't fuck with the advertisers or the big companies or whatever it was. He got read the riot act by Ned Beatty. It's one of the greatest scenes in any movie.

47:02 And Beatty just reads this guy the riot act, who do you think you are? Which is really basically the premise is who do you think you are? You did this and this and this and you're now messing with this. Forces beyond your imagination, blah, blah, blah. And you read somebody the riot act like this, especially if they have some connection to your purse strings, to your I mean, you could imagine, it could happen to no agenda show. We could be all of a sudden swooped away, brought into, let's say, I don't know, Langley, and put into a dark room with some guy reading us the riot act. Probe me! Probe me! Or yeah, flying saucers, or whatever. The point is, is that somebody read him the riot act. Yes.

47:51 Well, that's I believe it was Fauci. I think Fauci is a tough little guy He's a small man that has had the Napoleonic complex is pretty obvious He's got the voice of a guy who could do that and I think he read him to riot act and told him that all these things are going on he he is messing with the control forces of nature the forces of nature yeah, and so he's He had the backpedal to an extreme and And in exchange, he got named on a couple of these compliance boards or whatever they are that he described. He's okay, he's good to go now. Exactly, exactly. He's on the board there. Yeah, there's money involved. Yeah. It's not doing that for free. And you know, if Dr. Druid said, hey, he did say it, I'm wrong. Okay, I made a mistake. I'm cool with that. I think it takes it, you know, it's good. You were wrong, you were wrong. But then immediately to say, always believe Fauci, Fauci's the guy, that was the tell.

48:51 That was the tell. If you hadn't have said anything about Fauci, it would be very easy to take. But apparently I believe, and this is another one, I'll just throw this out there as a possibility. Fauci seems, because he's on TVs all over the place, he seems like you started the show with him. He seems like an egomaniac. And he probably demanded to tell people that, he may have demanded to have his name mentioned. Would and especially a nice catch you know that he's on some board or whatever they put him at the end there Good catch and that to follow it by I've been getting you know threats Threats my against my family who's getting threats. I mean there's plenty of people on YouTube That's what he said elsewhere with that are going off the deep end with all kinds of crazy theories are they getting threats?

49:40 Not that I know of. I mean, is Dr. Drew that much of a target that he gets threats for? And he's getting threats for what? Yeah, this is a good question. What do you get? He says, well, I think it's not as bad as the flu or it's the flu, it's another version of the flu or whatever he said. I can't remember his earlier commentary, but he was equating it to the flu, which apparently can't, you know, is illegal. It's a blood disease. It's kind of different, to say the least. But he, Making that kind of an error saying it's a flu kind of a flu is gonna get you death threats. Really? I don't think so Now dr. Drew has a sizable audience. I can't speak to his his media tribe But I know that I'm certainly getting a lot of pushback from people on social media Not no agenda social comm of course because the algo's there's no algo's and

50:33 So you know you post anything even even a question for instance I had a question I've been looking at the the 2018-29 influenza shot which as we know missed the mark they chose for the A or the B strain the A strain the B strain showed up so they missed it but interestingly to me interesting to me is that today this year's flu shot has a 36 percent a chance of causing viral interference. I don't know anything about this. Viral interference means you can actually any type of respiratory virus that could come along you could be more susceptible to it if you got this year's flu shot. Yeah Bill Gates has shots and apparently has been documented to have a lot of these effects.

51:29 Well, and so I tweeted, I said, I'd be interested to know of the people who were hospitalized, how many of them had a flu shot. And immediately... Yeah, you're gonna get that information. That's coming right away. I immediately got a little bit of hate. You and your tropes, Curry! Yeah. Anti-vaxxer! Conspiracy theorist. Anti-vaxxer, you! No, not really. I would, if you don't mind me pressing you on your homework, I wouldn't mind taking a trip around the world, see what's going on elsewhere with the coronavirus. Yeah, there's a few reports, but I want to get to the one that I promised.

52:16 That was the Sweden report because the Swedish thing is getting more interesting as people have starting to promote these other theories of herd immunity and how you get to herd immunity, including this one guy I don't have a clip from goes on about how this thing would have blown over in four weeks if we just let it go. You know, we got an email from one of our producers, actually a couple of them, but I pulled one out from Olof in Sweden. I'm happy to wait to read it after the clips, whatever you want. Let's play the clips and read the note. I think that would work because these clips are older than that note. So let's go Sweden Report 1 IT. This is an international television network IT and they produce pieces, packages for PBS. They've been around for a hundred years and most of their employees are equally as old.

51:29 Well, and so I tweeted, I said, I'd be interested to know of the people who were hospitalized, how many of them had a flu shot. And immediately... Yeah, you're gonna get that information. That's coming right away. I immediately got a little bit of hate. You and your tropes, Curry! Yeah. Anti-vaxxer! Conspiracy theorist. Anti-vaxxer, you! No, not really. I would, if you don't mind me pressing you on your homework, I wouldn't mind taking a trip around the world, see what's going on elsewhere with the coronavirus. Yeah, there's a few reports, but I want to get to the one that I promised.

52:16 That was the Sweden report because the Swedish thing is getting more interesting as people have starting to promote these other theories of herd immunity and how you get to herd immunity, including this one guy I don't have a clip from goes on about how this thing would have blown over in four weeks if we just let it go. You know, we got an email from one of our producers, actually a couple of them, but I pulled one out from Olof in Sweden. I'm happy to wait to read it after the clips, whatever you want. Let's play the clips and read the note. I think that would work because these clips are older than that note. So let's go Sweden Report 1 IT. This is an international television network IT and they produce pieces, packages for PBS. They've been around for a hundred years and most of their employees are equally as old.

53:06 We have all worked with ITN. ITN. We're still in lockdown in Britain. At first the government here adopted the Swedish version, which meant that there were fairly limited restrictions. Then they switched to the Danish version, which required an almost total shutdown. This is a story of two very similar Nordic cultures who've got a widely differing approach about how to fight COVID-19. At a time when most of the world is shuttered, Sweden is open for business. Markets and shops are trading, restaurants are serving, schools are educating. The Swedes advocate limited social distancing. Their strategy is to protect the vulnerable while allowing the virus to spread through healthy people, so they can develop antibodies. This is designed to create so-called herd immunity, which, theoretically, should result in most people being safe.

53:58 But today, the health authorities announced a further 96 fatalities. Thank you very much. Last night, President Trump criticized the Swedish approach. They talk about Sweden, but Sweden is suffering very gravely. You know that, right? Sweden did that. The herd. They call it the herd. The herd! The Swedish anti-virus campaign is being led not by the country's Prime Minister, but by Anders Tegnell, an epidemiologist with experience of fighting Ebola in Africa. He responded to Mr Trump this afternoon. No, we don't share his opinion. Of course we're suffering. Everybody in the world is suffering right now in different ways.

54:35 But Swedish healthcare, which I guess he alludes to, is very difficult to understand, is taking care of this in a very, very good manner. Fellow scientist Markus Carlsen despairs of Sweden being so out of step with most of the world. This, to me, sounds a bit like a madman. We are here playing Russian roulette with the Swedish population. King Carl Gustaf hinted at disapproval of government tactics as he urged Swedes to cancel the traditional annual getaway to country cabins. Oddly, the report didn't actually give us any idea if it was working or not. Well, that's it's kind of covered in the second half, but they did mention there's there's suffering. They have 96. I see a suffering at the time of this, which is about a week ago. Suffering. Yes. Suffering. So was that 96 cases or 96 dead? Here's what I before I play the second half of this.

55:36 There is a note here that I think was interesting was that guy goes nuts and says the Swedes are crazy. The problem that I think the world community is dealing with here, we're still trying to do this in a kind of quasi form of world government. So everybody has to do it this way. And then when it's over, it's a good thing that we had, we all did it this way because this way is the way. Sweden has decided to go off the rails and go do their own thing, which now you have an A-B study. Anyway, there goes the world governance idea because you have these guys doing it their own way and hopefully they won't be successful. For God, if they are, then the world government is just blown out of the water. Anyway.

56:26 Novelist and newspaper columnist Lena Anderson approves of what she believes is Swedish common sense. So I see it as a sound rationality. Once you get this explained by the authorities and the experts, people are grown up, adult enough to realize that that's the wise thing to do. It's not that we have to pick between locking down society for two years or going for herd immunity to infections, which is what Swedes are doing. We met Iranian-born economist Tino Sanandaji in 2015. He's renowned for challenging conventional Swedish thought and wishes the country had followed some Asian models. The South Koreans are containing it. They use mass testing, tracking, there are other technologies, masks. Since that option exists,

57:16 Because I believe that option does exist. The Swedish authorities have sort of dismissed it. It's just not South Korea is so different. We can't do that. Why? In Sweden, the rate of deaths stands at 69 per million and rising. Whereas five miles away across the bridge in Denmark, it's 39 per million. Sweden latest numbers 10,483 tested detected infections, 899 deaths. And here's producer Olaf. For some reason, and he's from Sweden, for some reason all foreign reports about Sweden seem wrong. Life in Sweden is... Oh, I live in Sweden. Everything is just fine. The hospitals are not filled to capacity and the new field hospital we built is completely unused. That's a familiar story. Not a single person there. The peak of the virus seems to have passed just before this weekend and the few intensive care beds we had, extremely few per capita, held up fine.

58:16 The media has of course tried to instill terror in the people and succeeded until Trump spoke out against Sweden. The media hates Trump so much that if he says Sweden is wrong then the media all of a sudden agrees with the countermeasures we have done. Wow! So Trump actually helped. That's fantastic. In foreign news, it seems that everything is going on just like ordinary here. That is far from true. Everyone can work from home, bars and restaurants can keep open, no one can drink at the bar, but no one can drink at the bar and the tables need to be further apart, etc. I think that's where we're headed. Seems to be working well, but what other countries does?

58:59 But since we were working well, but what other countries do not understand is that Swedes first of all are big on social distance even without COVID. I didn't realize that. That's kind of cool. The opposite of the Chinese. Most importantly, we'd love to listen to our government. So if they suggest that we work from home, almost everyone will. That along with a long tradition of doing what's best for society works as well as shelter-in-place order. Also the Swedish government has the same problems the US. The government has relatively little power and the departments and governmental bodies really have the most power here. Olaf, thank you very much. I agree with you on the global governance. In fact, I picked up a professor from New Zealand

59:42 Who was discussing the recent call for a at least a temporary global government? By Gordon Brown, you know Gordon Brown the former Chancellor of the exchequer who sold all Britain's gold too early at a low price and And wasn't he the Prime Minister for half a minute? Yes, he was the Prime Minister for a short time. Can you just quickly tell us a little bit more about what Gordon Brown is suggesting and how seriously that's being taken? I think what we've seen in the last three months through COVID-19 is that the world will increasingly have to cooperate

1:00:18 And this of course cuts right across the populist message that states can go it alone to solve their problems. COVID-19 seems to suggest the opposite and it's no coincidence that Gordon Brown, a former UK Prime Minister, is now recommending a temporary form of world government to tackle the twin crises, the economic crisis and the medical crisis caused by COVID-19. Gordon Brown, who actually played a role in trying to deal with the consequences of the financial crisis, the global financial crisis of 2008-2009, has argued that

1:01:01 Basically, representatives of most countries in the world, including developing countries, should form a temporary executive to try to come up with a coordinated response to COVID-19. Every state at the moment is competing for ventilators, they're competing for masks, They're competing, it's almost a race to the bottom, they're competing for things and they're trying to solve a global problem with a national interest approach. And I think what Brown is saying is that governments seriously have to, governments have to accept this is a global emergency and a global challenge like COVID-19 requires by definition a global response.

1:01:47 We are the world's... We are the children... Global. Global, baby. Global. We need a global response. Everybody's got to jump in. That's pathetic. I wonder, since you played, just a kind of an idea, the notion that the Swedish press Turned on a dime because Trump said something. Isn't that great? It shows the press's hostility. I wanted to point out, I'm gonna have a clip until this ends of the constant harping on, we had one earlier, the harping on Trump not doing enough soon enough. Yes, yes. Which is like, that's the other meme besides the one that you caught earlier, which I now have already forgotten. But these memes are out there. Here is, and this combines with your,

1:02:47 presentation about Saturday Night Live. Here's Seth Meyers doing his show from home and he has to slip this, instead of just doing comedy or some jokes, he has to slip this little political piece of information in there the way he sees it. The president and his allies are trying to wish away the coronavirus pandemic and hoping you'll forget that he badly botched his response to the crisis. For more on this... Yeah, that's that's the investigation. I think they already have the the the team all set up. They're going to investigate and overturn every rock about why we responded too late how many mistakes the president made and the underpinning for that will be

1:03:31 that he didn't operate or execute the Defense Production Act properly, and that he didn't act like the dictator they've always said he was and do a national shutdown. Those are the two things that he's going to, dare I say it, possibly be impeached for again. Oh yes. And for crimes against humanity. Well, that's a possibility. So if, you know, now the way of course to stop this is to not vote any Democrats into the House of Representatives. Because if anyone votes for the Democrats into the House of Representatives, they are going to see the next four years being just completely bogged down by this nonsense, which is, you know, the Nancy Pelosi crew. They just have to be voted out and then maybe we can get something done in four years.

1:04:18 These people say that well if Trump gets reelected this country's going down. We're going to die. Yes, we're gonna die We cannot it's gonna go down the tooth because there's not gonna be any real president running the place It's gonna be the the House of Representatives. Yeah, so a big part of where we need to focus now is getting back to work and how are we going to do that and What are the parameters going to be? On Friday the president Was said several times that this is the biggest decision. I'm ever going to make I'm not making it alone I have he just went over and over about all the people who would be involved. He's gonna have a special panel I think Tuesday. He'll be announcing some of that And he started to telegraph us and some quite clearly actually telegraph his ideas about how we will get back to work and how we will start the country up again and

1:05:15 And it started, of course, with Jim Acosta, who the President actually seems to have a pretty good relationship with these days. So does Tony Fauci. He likes hanging out with Jim Acosta after some of these... he was winking at Jim the other day. And so the, I guess there's a couple of different pieces that people are talking about. The big one is testing. And surprisingly enough, there is quite a push out there to test to see if A, you have it, or if you B, don't have it. So you would either be sick, which means stay home, or you had the antibodies, which mean you can go out and you're clear. You're free human resource, go!

1:05:59 But if you are completely healthy and have not been sick, then you have oddly a pre-existing condition and will be forced to stay home somehow. So there's that, there's the idea of tracking and tracing and tracing back over who you were in contact with. We had announcements from Apple And Google that they're building that into the next release of their operating system. So not just an app No, no, it's going to be built in it's gonna be oh, yeah. I'm sorry. It'll be opt-in. Mm-hmm. So yeah, right Opt-in every time you try to put any app on your phone It'll just you know, but no I'm saying if you you say have the raw phone and

1:06:45 And you can say you opt out of that one feature, which is going to attract you like a dog. If you try to install Google Maps or anything else, it's going to make you opt into that other thing. In fact, it'll probably just turn it on. So a cost is all over this. If you look at the list of stuff that you have to opt in for, for just about anything, you basically give the phone to somebody else. Yeah. Here's Acosta badgering the president. How can the administration discuss the possibility of reopening the country when the administration does not have an adequate nationwide testing system for this virus? Don't you need a nationwide testing system for the virus before you reopen? We have a great testing system. We have the best, right now, the best testing system in the world. But there are certain sections, there are certain sections in the country that are

1:07:39 in phenomenal shape already. Other sections are coming online, other sections are going down. And we, in addition to that, are giving out millions of tests. And every day we're doing it exponentially. We're picking up. And what we'll be doing in the very near future is going to certain areas of our country and do massive testing. It's not necessary, but it would be a good thing to have. Don't you need that, Mr. President, to make sure people are safe going back to work? You don't want to send people back to the workplace.

1:08:28 Of course, when we do it will be number one. I don't care what it is. A couple of things that never get brought up by anybody and you brought half of it up with the clip earlier. What are these tests? costing Medicare and Medicaid? Yeah, we don't know exactly. Are they a hundred bucks a pop? Now that we had one of our producers wrote in saying he went into the doctor for, uh, to, thought he had Corona and they gave him a test of his temperature and then didn't do much of anything else. And they told him to go home and he got a bill for like 500 bucks. Whoa.

1:09:04 Because just apparently just mentioning Corona all those all everything ratchets up. Yeah, yeah because you've created Oh now it's a it's a health hazard It's different than everything else because nobody's immune to it And so you're putting everyone at risk was gonna cost more to treat well or just to see you it's costing more it is my understanding that all of the big insurance companies have said they will pick up the bill for co pays etc for People going to a doctor for anything coronavirus related. I don't know if that's been codified anywhere properly Whether it's true or not that means they're just jacking jacking up on the next go-around Yep, so everyone's gonna be paying everyone's gonna be paying more because of this thing. I have a caught in a Costa clip

1:09:49 That is a little it's different it's just further down but but i think it has the punchline because. There's an enormous amount of truth is always on there and recognizes one of the things i don't like people listening to trump for. On on this clip at the very end he makes it very clear what he thinks of. He thinks CNN is full of crap anyway, but he has an interesting point to make at the end. I think the answer is yes. Who said no to that? I'm saying this. No, you're saying no. But who said no? We hear from doctors. We hear from health experts. You didn't say that. You said that we have enough masks. Does the country? Do we have enough tests? Yes. Plus, we're developing new tests. Do we have enough? Do we have enough ventilators? Yes. Do we have enough hospital beds? Yes. We've built 20,000 hospital beds. We have enough hospital beds.

1:10:56 Go ahead, Jim. Let's go. What do you say to me? You watch the coverage. You know, I'm watching a lot of a lot of doctors. A lot of it's not a lot of it's fake news. Let me just when the doctors and the medical governor's report test, we don't have a governor yet, depending on your air. They always say that because otherwise you're not going to put them on. He ripped that off really fast. Yeah, he did. The journals weren't letting this testing slide. They were not going to let it go. And I don't know who this was, but threw in a little gotcha name. Speaking of testing, some experts, including Scott Gottlieb, have talked about 750,000 tests per week.

1:11:38 being needed before the economy is open. Can you address that? Do you agree with those numbers? If not, how many tests per week do you think we should have before the economy is open? Yeah, I don't like using the word needed because I don't think it's needed, but I think we're going to try and hit a number like that. That's a very high number, but we're going to be trying to hit it, and we probably might be able to do that. And I think he's listening to Scott Gottlieb. Gottlieb was his FDA commissioner, I guess, yeah, the head of the FDA, up until last year. He got out, now this is a big pharma guy. I think he works at the American Enterprise Institute. It's like, if you look at his Wikipedia page, it's just all these big pharma companies that he's working for.

1:12:24 And he did weigh in on what he thought we needed to get back and since apparently he's touting we need 750,000 tests a day I think the president may be in cahoots with him or may not. Let's listen to what he's thinking. Dr. Gottlieb you've written a proposal on how to reopen the country for want of a better term. What does it look like? And is President Trump listening to your ideas? Well, it certainly made them available to the White House. What we're saying in the plan that we put forward was that you want to see a sustained reduction in new cases and then you want to wait an additional two weeks after you see a sustained reduction in new cases. We should start seeing a sustained reduction in new cases in most parts of this country in the second half of April and towards the end of April.

1:13:09 So, if you follow the timing that we outlined, that would put you in mid-May when you'd start to contemplate bringing people back to work. But the other thing we say is that you should have widespread screening in place. You should have the ability to do point of care screening in the community. And right now, screening is largely confined to hospitals. We don't have the capacity to do that. capacity to broaden it. So we do need to continue to ramp up screening. I think that's going to be the big variable. I think we're going to be taking a step towards reopening aspects of the economy before we have the optimal level of screening in place. And that's the risk that we're going to take. As a public health official, I'd like to have the optimal screening in place. I'd like to have the hospitals have residual capacity. I'd like to exercise more caution.

1:13:47 But we also need to recognize, quite frankly, that there are public health implications to what we're doing here as well. The longer we keep the country closed, there's a lot of morbidity and mortality that's accruing because of that. People who aren't presenting for prenatal care, aren't presenting with mild strokes or mild heart attacks, are staying at home. There's going to be deaths and diseases as a result of the fact that we've engaged in what we've done. So it's a careful balancing. I'd like to see more screening in place. But we also need to worry about August and having in place what we need as we go back to school in September, as we reopen residential campuses, that we can have much more widespread screening and hopefully one or two effective therapeutics to deal with this virus. If we don't have that by September, we're going to face a lot of risk in the fall that we have outbreaks and even the risk of another epidemic. I think you're right, John. I think that this guy is actually giving guidance and it's a bonanza.

1:14:38 He's talking about lot ramping up testing a lot more testing got to have it everywhere. Who does he represent people who test? Who does he represent? Yeah, so says screening which could be just done with a thermometer. That's what they didn't do. Yeah, that's that's 50 bucks Yeah, that's a 50 $50 item Yeah, screening go 50 bucks here 50 bucks there are 10 bucks a day on the trigger somebody's forehead There's a charge of 25 bucks before you know it for that 20 today. It's already I did 100 before you know it There so what's your thinking on Trump? What's Trump's gonna do? I I believe that he's going to reopen and mark May 1st He's gonna keep it shut down till May 1st. I think he may go sooner, but he's gonna

1:15:24 have to install some policies and I think they're gonna keep social distancing and everyone's gonna have to wear a mask until some unknown date in the future. Yeah, I have two more quick clips for data points before I answer that. Here's the one about tracking. So Google and Apple have announced that they are jointly enabling contact tracing on their mobile phone operating systems and I was wondering if this is something that you that you would consider or maybe the doctor would consider? Well, that's one of your freedoms problems and a lot of other things. This is something we're going to look at it certainly and we know they've done that and it's highly, it's very new, new technology. It's very interesting but a lot of people worry about it in terms of a person's freedom. We're going to take a look at that, a very strong look at it. We'll let you know pretty soon. Yeah, so that means no, that will not be a part of anything mandated.

1:16:14 If he doesn't say, I'm all for it, then it's not happening. The same goes. That's true, except that could be state mandated. So you'd have a Gavin Newsom in a high tech state where Google and Apple are both located. Yeah, could be. Yes, but that's your problem because I live in a different state. It's not my problem. My phone's off. It's in a drawer. I think this is going to be a part of his argument. I believe he met with this group Friday or Saturday and this will be an important part of how he's going to explain why we need to get out. Earlier today I spoke with hundreds of mental health leaders and advocates from around the country to discuss the vital work and the vital work they're doing. We had the top doctors in the country, some international doctors. Mental health, big factor. Not only has the virus inflicted immense physical suffering on many people, but also mental and emotional suffering as well. Even though we're staying physically apart, no American is alone.

1:17:13 We're all in this together, but the mental health doctors and experts, it's a very great call. It was a very interesting call. They're working very hard. Yeah, so he's got the numbers. He's going to say, this is what's happening right now. We are losing more people daily through all kinds of horrible diseases that come from being locked up. Again, no public health official has given us any tips or ideas on how to strengthen our immune system, how to live as a prisoner. You know, there's certain things that are good for you, movement, exercise, sun. If not, you need to supplement that. So none of that. So it's not going to be very pretty. Here is... Well, go on. Well, I'm going to say here's the big problem that's coming up this week.

1:17:58 This past Friday, some people started getting money, unemployment, and I don't think anyone's received the $1,200 check or deposit yet, but the unemployment situation is, as the president warned when he signed the CARES Act, he said very specifically, The Democrats didn't want me to do it the way I suggested, which was the same direct deposit we were doing the 1200 through. They insisted Probably because they were afraid the president was going to steal it and give it to his son-in-law They insisted they do it through every state's unemployment system Which is why immediately you have calls for COBOL programmers because this is not in the logic of the unemployment systems This is a different type of logic that needs to be put in there and they were not ready. Some states will never get it, right? and never and

1:18:56 So, you know, we have kids who are going through this now and Tina also. It's very confusing. Everyone gets different answers. You get an email, you don't get an email. There's these things that, you know, it just, it's different for everybody and we don't have any money yet. So that's a problem. Next Friday, will be if you're going to hear a lot of people extremely pissed off and of course it will be a Trump botched it you know that's gonna happen even though he warned up front this was not the way to do it so he really only has until next Friday to make his announcements because we're not gonna make it until the end of April without knowing exactly what's going to happen we're gonna have

1:19:41 skirmishes, when people don't have money. It's not going to come through fast enough, this is clear to me. So I think he will have some of his favorite states and I'm, I have a feeling Texas may be one of them. Abbott has already, our governor has already made noise that he's going to change the, he's going to relax the rules to get the state back to work. I think Abbott is pretty tight with Trump. I think they like each other. And I think we'll see a few states open up before the end of April, and the idea would be May 1st, everybody goes out. I think the states that open first will go up to the 50-person limit.

1:20:24 So you need to have restaurants be able to open up. So it'll be 50 people all in one go at the same time. You can also open up hotels and keep less than 50 guests on the floor. There's a whole bunch of ways you can do that. And you can get things starting again, but they will not be dependent upon testing. People will be... He's going to have to give the pharma guy something because they don't have the vaccine ready. They don't have... Gilead doesn't have the anti-rival Remdesivir ready. So he's got to give him something. So he'll give him a ton of cash on the on the testing. They'll shut up and some companies will require it or not, but it won't be a mandated law. And we'll just get back to work in the media for the next two months. We'll tell everybody what a big mistake it was because every person extra that died is blood on Trump's hands. And they'll do that all the way up until November. Well, I think that from that perspective, yes, everything you said is probably true. I do think there'll be the additional requirements to wear masks.

1:21:25 and I think it's going to be a big deal. And so the mask business will be good, good for the No Agenda Mask Company. Yeah, we need to, I would like to have the masks that just clip behind. I love our bandana, but I saw this. I mean everyone here in Austin, everyone's got a snazzy mask now. Now that we've all realized you don't have to have an N95 to live. So now everyone's just using whatever they got. Well, theoretically, even the Chinese know this is the mask is not to protect you from the virus is protect others from you. Yes, but I'm just talking about the N95. Yeah, that would be true. You'd protect yourself. But generally speaking, the other message. So when you sneeze or cough, it doesn't put anything in the air, puts it into the mask. And so there's not just a bunch of little particles flying around.

1:22:12 But anyway, so I think there's gonna be a mask requirement. I think there's gonna be a social distancing requirement that's gonna be maintained for a few months, at least a month. Which means there's not gonna be any football or basketball or any of these sporting events unless the stadiums are set up so there's only one fifth as many people or something. I don't know how they're gonna do it. But the sporting guys are gonna eat it. And I think the theater owners are gonna eat it. I think Broadway's gonna eat it. And I think that's gonna continue right through the election. I don't think there's gonna be any let up. I think all these businesses, Hollywood,

1:22:50 They're all at risk. If we thought that the Chinese owned Hollywood already, they're gonna own it completely by the time this is over. And we'll put a little bow around it. Here you go China, take that. Well, you're of course completely wrong. You're absolutely completely wrong. I'm wrong. This is not how it's going to happen. You're wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. Bill Gates knows how it's gonna work though if everything goes perfectly With the RNA approach we could actually beat the 18 months. We don't want to create I should have set it up The RNA approach is the big hope this is the vaccine and I'm doing big air quotes Since it's not a vaccine in the traditional sense. It's never been proven to work

1:23:32 Correct. But it's Bill Gates, man. How can you question him? If everything goes perfectly with the RNA approach, we could actually beat the 18 months. We don't want to create unrealistic expectations. The efficacy of vaccines in older people is always a huge challenge. You know, it turns out the flu vaccine isn't that effective in elderly people. Most of the benefit comes from younger people not spreading it because they're vaccinated and that benefits on a community basis the elderly. Here we clearly need a vaccine that works in the upper age range because they're most at risk of that and doing that so that you amp it up so

1:24:18 Amp it up. Isn't that adjuvants? Is he when he's amping it up? Is he gonna be throwing thimerosal in there or something? Well, it'd be thimerosal for sure, but I don't think adjuvants and RNA That's probably not the same thing. Yeah, I'm sure. Doing that so that you amp it up so it works in older people and yet you don't have side effects. You know, if we have, you know, one in 10,000 side effects, that's, you know, way more, 700,000 people who will suffer from that. So really understanding the safety at gigantic scale across all age ranges, pregnant, male, female, undernourished, existing comorbidities, it's very, very hard. And that actual decision of, okay, let's go and give this vaccine to the entire world

1:25:10 Governments will have to be involved because there will be some risk and indemnification needed before that can be decided on. So Bill's already pushing for the indemnification. Yeah, that means his vaccine will be killing people left and right. Luckily, RFK Jr. is going heavy at Gates. Yeah, did you read his post? Yeah, the post is pretty astonishing. And it's going to... that doesn't stay You know, everyone's been marginalizing RFK Jr. because he's, you know, they call him an anti-vaxxer when that's not true. That's not what he is. He's against the mercury in the vaccine. His own family is against him.

1:25:52 Yes, well everyone's yeah, but he killed his niece and they killed is not a liar Everything he says is absolutely true. And so he's got this anti gates post and he's got and he's just lambasting him for all kinds of Misdeeds and I think this is not gonna sit around then be and just percolate it's gonna blow up and it's gonna kill this whole idea of what gates is trying to do gates is toast on it and He's toast. This RNA thing's never gonna work. I'd like to read just a little bit from what RFK Jr. posted on Instagram. And by the way, his niece and their niece's kid just got killed, just drowned in some weird accident in a canoe.

1:26:37 No messaging there. So here's what RFK Jr. wrote on Instagram. Vaccines for Bill Gates are a strategic philanthropy that feed his many vaccine related businesses, including Microsoft's ambition to control a global vaccine ID enterprise and give him dictatorial control over global health policy. The Spear Tip of Corporate Neo-Imperialism Gates' obsession with vaccines seems fueled by a messianic conviction that he is ordained to save the world with technology and a godlike willingness to experiment with the lives of lesser humans.

1:27:18 And then it just goes on about all the mistakes they've made, 496,000 children paralyzed between 2000 and 2017 because of Bogative Gates Foundation vaccination programs. polio vaccines, lots of stuff that killed people, usually people with dark colored skin who live in sandy areas. It's kind of easy. It's well worth looking at and he winds it up. He's got a whole bunch of slides there. So it's something to see. It's in the show notes, nashownotes.com. I don't know if the vaccine will work or not.

1:28:01 I'm sure there's several others, but we never even came up with one for SARS or MERS or AIDS or any of it. So why would this work all of a sudden? I don't expect it. Yeah, you'd think that since it's related to SARS, that they would have developed a SARS vaccine by now. Nope, nothing. And they haven't. And so you have to make some assumptions here. And that's one of the reasons I think they've gone after a different kind of vaccine, one never proven to work on anything. But yeah, you know, let's experiment. Well, if you're indemnified, just shoot it into people. Who cares? I got a second half thing that maybe I should just bring up here real quick.

1:28:44 In 1518, you like cycles, you like fractals. In 1518, Pluto and Mercury aligned in a certain way. Hold on, hold on. You might want to start over because I picked up, you might want to start over and do it over this 47 second musical bed that I stole from the Joe Biden ad campaign. In 1518 the dancing plague struck Strasbourg. A woman took to the streets and danced until she collapsed from exhaustion, then rested and returned to dancing. Before long she was joined by dozens of others. The number swelled to 400, all afflicted by the same mysterious urge to dance long past the point of injury. There was no music.

1:29:32 Just people silently shaking and shimmering so the town brought in a band thinking the plague would run its course It went on for months and people reportedly died from strokes and heart attacks So this was 1518 a that's a good story. Well, it's mass hysteria We've had several examples of mass hysteria in history. Christina sent this to me because 1518, and she's into astrology, Pluto and Mercury lined up when this event took place in 1518. December 2019 the same planets aligned

1:30:18 after all these years and in 2019, December 2019, there's article after article of these astrologists, I don't know what their qualifications are, saying hey, you know, there was mass hysteria in 1518, let's see what happens now. Now, Christina's take on it, which I think is interesting, she says this is proof that the elites use all kinds of black magic and astral events to time something. And her thinking is maybe a lot of it is purely mass hysteria, and that you develop symptoms which are well described and well known based on some mass hysteria.

1:31:00 It's not like it doesn't happen. It happens a lot. No, it does happen. It happens a lot in the dancing thing is which is a weird mass hysteria, but I can see it happening. Yeah, you keep telling people here's what you're gonna get. You're gonna get this cough. You're gonna get the fever and a headache and loss of loss of smell loss of taste loss of smell loss of taste a headache. Yeah, a horrible cough, which I can't even do it. It's a painful sounding thing to hear when you hear it go. It's a bone shattered, shattering cough and and fatigue, massive fatigue. So I know it's real crackpotty, but there's a lot of a lot of examples. I've had it before. The symptoms were described over and over and over and over again, which would create the mass hysteria. What you'd have to say is that this COVID does exist. It does cause these these phenomenon. And then when you start going nuts about it and going fanatic and getting people I've got, I know people that I've been following

1:31:59 Twitter that I thought that were level-headed but now they're at the verge of calling the cops on everybody. Oh my god, they're walking to the front of the street. Oh get out of the street! Or people yelling at each other for being too close and you know it's just the... I just want to correct myself. The Saturn-Pluto conjunction I just want to get it right. Is there somebody in the chat room that pointed this out to you? No, I have it in my show notes. I have a story. I was just wondering if we have any of those. Oh, I'm sure we do. So I just want to read because I said it wrong. I just want to get it right because there's a lot of people who will be like, yeah, carry.

1:32:40 How 2020 repeats the astrology of 1518. The year 2020 finds a Saturn-Pluto conjunction in Capricorn, which is rare and historic. Not only that, we find Uranus in Taurus Which could be nice. And the North Node in Gemini with the South Node in Sagittarius. It's an uncanny repeat of the year... Holy mary, is that right? It's an uncanny repeat of the year 1518 when we saw a global boom in people smuggling, human trafficking, and slavery. Which is interesting because this comes from

1:33:25 December 2019 and what did we have? Epstein, Weinstein, all kinds of crazies. You know, it's just interesting to think about. Yeah, because these things never happen otherwise. And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage to say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in the collective compliance, John C. DeVore. Well, good morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry, and to all your ships that see boots on the ground, feeding the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there. In the morning to the trolls in the troll room. Let's have a quick little troll count. And we have, oh, so close. We haven't cracked 2,000 yet, but we're right underneath 1899. In the morning to your trolls, noagendastream.com is where they hang out.

1:34:11 trolling the show, partying like it's 1899, and that's where you can hear all kinds of great podcasts. None of them have commercials, none of them have corporate interests. It's all there for you to enjoy free. Of course, everyone loves the value for value model, which is what we're moving into right here as we also thank our artist for episode 1232. The title of that was Guango cast, Moose. M000SE Moose brought us that artwork and it was the oh, it was the live from Gitmo Nation at home which has the global citizen World Health Organization at home two fingers two hands kind of showing the a little box that looks like a house and in the house is a microphone with a headphone. It was a good take off of of the globalist messaging and

1:35:12 I thought yeah, it was used by CBS and a number of other people that the base art right but not not with our No, we have a brand of humor now. I will say for the second time in a row We have broken protocol and you are going to defend it because I can't we put album art up with the episode number which is a no-no and we've done it twice in a row and as I said you were going to defend that to the producers and It was your idea. No, no, stop. I think it was three times in a row. No, it's just two. Oh, yeah. Well, we looked over the art and the problem was that we liked that takeoff art that Moose did and

1:36:01 And there was one with the show number and one without the show number, and we knew it was a violation of our rules. But we violate our own rules. It's our rules, and we can stretch them as we see fit. And the balance of the picture with the show number on it, just the overall structure... Yeah, it was better. was better. It's called composition in the trade. Cezanne is well known for it. And I had an art instructor at the art center, I was telling him about some artists, I said, right, I don't get this guy, stuff sucks. He says, no, no, no, you're missing it. What makes it great is the composition. Composition in and of itself is sometimes

1:36:44 Above and beyond the art and that in this case composition played a role in getting that picked and that was the reason otherwise we'd never do that. I don't like doing it. I think it encourages too many people to put the number in there when it doesn't need to be in there, but he did it and we liked it and we used it. That's it. Yeah, we got to be careful though because it encourages vandalism. Yes, we will see well we do have vandalism once in a while on the art generator. Thank you Moose. It was a beautiful piece Moose. Moosey, Moosey. Yes and that is part of our value for value system. We get fresh artwork for every single new episode. The artist gets recognition. We have noagendaartgenerator.com where you can see all the submissions and a lot of those flow through to our other producers who have noagendashop.com. I hope they're going to do actual

1:37:35 Proper masks mask mask the bandanas are great, and I think they've got a lot of orders. I hope so Noah Jender, ArtGenerator.com. Thanks again, Moose. And we like to thank people who support the show, Producers Produce. They send us all kinds of stuff, work on the show in many ways. You heard Boots on the Ground in Sweden. We have clips that are pre-made. We have all kinds of topics, expertise, and we need financing to keep the bills paid and keep the show going. This is where we thank, just like Hollywood, by the way, our executive producers and associate executive producers. Not advancing, I'm going to mention that we have a couple of notes that are missing in action. There's some that we do have and then there are notes that are too long that I have edited down a bit.

1:38:20 But let's start with Bill Cameron in Charlotte, North Carolina, 44731. He's our top donor today. Greetings John and Adam. This donation takes me to night level. My amygdala has been diminished in recent years to an unprecedented puny size due to the high quality service that you two provide twice a week. Thank you so much for all you do. I'm active in the Charlotte Noro Agenda Meetup crowd. who are indeed a spectacular and unique bunch of slaves. Please knight me." Oh, he's going to be knighted? Is he on the list? Yes, he is. I believe so. Let me double check. Let me double check. Let me double check. Yes. Yeah. "...to knight me as Sir Suspected Spook of the Sycamore Soot."

1:39:06 The local Charlotte crowd will get it. Okay? Stay woke. Well, that wasn't on my note. I did have him, but it was Sir Suspected Spook of the Sycamore Soot. Sir Suspected Spook of the Sycamore Soot. Okay, we got it. You're on the list, Bill, with a Y. I mean, do we have suspected spooks in the Charlotte area? Well, maybe. Who knows? Yeah. North Carolina is a high tech state. It is. So here we go. See you at the roundtable Bill. Sorry? No, I was just saying, I was telling Bill I'll see him at the roundtable. He should go over to the green room.

1:39:47 Oh yeah, get over there. Earl of America's Heartland in Saudi Arabia, Dave Fugazotto with a report from Riyadh. $333.33. He'll be the specialist. Today anyone who donated $333.33 will be a special executive producer for the Easter COVID special. That's what we're doing today. It's a COVID special, nice. Easter COVID. Easter COVID. Happy Easter or as they call it here, Sunday. How about... Always with the snide remarks. Reverend Ernie, you like a random Reverend Manning for Easter and an Easter goat karma?

1:40:28 TY, what is this? Thank you for your courage. Thank you for being missing in action. Thank you for my amygdala. That's what I meant. Dave Fugazotto in Riyadh. He's back in Saudi Arabia. He didn't give us a report on the shutdown. Is he still locked down? No, he's still there. He hasn't come back. He's still there. Oh, he's still locked down. He can't get out. There's no flights. You can't fly from Rydia. Or Riyadh for that matter. Here we go. That's a Shona money shot! Woo! Jesus! Woo! Look at that! That's a money shot! Catty Conway in a money shot! You've got our money. Random enough for you, Dave. Not that random. Then we have another special producer, which is Sir Wire of the Hidden Jewel, aka Jim Pyers.

1:41:24 And he sent a note in, which I did edit down. It's too long. Thank you for your courage and for your tireless work in this strange time in our country. Your analysis and humor saves sanity and amygdalas. I have hit many in the mouth over the past few weeks, months, who have desperately needed your real journalism deconstruction. It's not the Rogan effect that's added all the new producers. It's the Sir Wire effect. Sir, why are show numerology as number twelve and thirty three in school? I did not want to be twelve and thirteen basketball players. We get the home and away numbering off of jerseys. John will get it. Adam won't my school retired my number thirty three. So it must mean something good by the way. I think I'm going to Baron or a Viscount or something by now. So I'm looking forward to the ceremony when I can do it in person. Well,

1:42:14 Keep waiting. My son EJ, meanwhile, has been a long-time listener and today, April 12th, is his 16th birthday. Please wish him a happy birthday and play the following jingles in his honor. The mac and cheese combo, 33's a lucky number, and that's true. You can always follow me on Twitter. I kindly request you mention my podcast, Unwired. No agenda producers can learn about the show at wiresworld.net. The show focuses on healthcare and technology, so it's timely. Some jobs karma for me and everybody in the US that's been affected or impacted by this scam-ademic. Happy birthday belated to John and happy Easter to all the dames and knights out there. Excellent, thank you sir. Wire of the Hidden Jewel.

1:42:59 You slaves can get used to mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Cheap macaroni and cheap cheddar melted together. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Hey, everybody. Living the mac and cheese life. Mac and cheese by Ayn Rand. That's true. You've got karma. Kyle Davis. Oh wait, I'm sorry. Shoot. Did he want jobs karma? I think I messed that up. He wanted some karma, yeah. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma. There you go. We can never have enough jobs karma these days. Nope. Right. Kyle Davis and Lake Stevens Washington, 33333.

1:43:58 Another special executive producer. Good afternoon, gentlemen. My name is Kyle from Lake Evans Stevens making my first donation of 333 I believe a first-time donation means I need to be deduced you guys You've been deduced. There's my 34th birthday on Sunday Well or Saturday which is yesterday, and I wanted to give the best podcast that filters through the media bullshit I have been listening only since episode 1221. Oh welcome citizen. Yeah, he came in and he's already donating Thank you, thank you, and I'm hooked keep up the good work Can I get some goat karma orange man scream and we're all going to die? Jingles, please why not? We got that

1:44:46 What happened it cut off let's try that again You've got karma. There we go. Complete the karma. Suzanne Tetz in Moraga, California, 33333, just over the hill from me. I can't find her note if she has one. She didn't say she does. And let me double check. See if you might look at it for her. Yeah, I'm looking to see if we got anything. I don't think we have. So she has something to say. She can send us a note and we'll do it later. Chris Bergeron in Ackworth, Georgia, 33333.

1:45:29 And he writes, thank you both for all the excellent COVID shows. I can feel my amygdala shrinking twice a week. I'm an old school producer who is finally affording the first executive producer credit. So can I please get an it's what we do so you don't have to C-SPAN, remember that one? You'll never find it. It's what we do so you don't have to watch C-SPAN, followed by a karma for a new human resource Eric Xavier Barger on he was born two weeks ago and the hospital experiences like like having a baby in prison That's interesting Hmm, I guess it would be kind of yeah, I guess Yeah, so we need that. Yeah, I don't have this What we do do it. Is that a jingle we had I don't know. It was the saying that we used to play it on

1:46:25 I don't think we just say it is what we just you don't have to watch C-SPAN followed by a karma for this give it the kitty karma Okay, so it's what we do so you don't have to C-SPAN That's my new version of it Somebody remembers. I don't know. I don't recall what it is okay? Now we have Jesse's whack in San Francisco, another local. And again, I can't find a note from him or her. What's going on people? So that one is lost, lost in the shuffle and it didn't come in on PayPal. So there you go. All right. It's too bad. Onward to, unless you have the,

1:47:12 Fred Van Leeuwen in Hilversum. Yeah, it's Fred Van Leeuwen in Hilversum. Yeah, I'll read this. Okay, 333 33. Thank you very much Fred Fred sends a lot of notes to a lot of Intel yesterday evening through PayPal I've been sending you my exec producer sponsorship for the Eastern show He's Dutch. I hope this will give you some oxygen in uncertain times. It does and thank you so much I enjoy your shows since a few years, but also by now I've gone back as far as episode 520

1:47:49 I am not the biggest fan of your president, and neither would I have trusted Hillary in the job, but I did enjoy him last week telling this reporter who asked about the oil situation to do his homework first. The media in the Netherlands are not nearly as hopeless as those in your country. Really? Still, they could afford often to be educated this way. It's not unusual to hear our journalists ask totally predictable, boring questions. I will ask Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr You have outspoken opinions about our impact on climate change. Sure. How could the models be as reliable as pretended? The climate system is hugely complex and our knowledge is still modest. So why not simply admit that also as the No Agenda show? Wouldn't a position of we don't know be more credible? Even then there's plenty of room to be critical about the monetary interest behind the discussion on both sides. To conclude, here is my request for the Easter show. Could you please play these two No Agenda classics for me? The

1:48:51 Oh, oh my god, oh been growing babies and cows and the other one is about raw meat. Okay, I have those. You know, it's not exact, I don't think it's entirely fair what he says about us. We've just called it out. But he's labeling us as a denier. Or am I reading that wrong? No, he's a hate listener. I don't think he's a... he's not a hate listener at all. No. But all we know is the models don't work. There's still snow in the UK. It was only going to be in snow globes. So all the predictions are off and I guess now we can agree that's right. We do not trust any type of data model from scientists anymore after COVID-19. Does that mean climate change is real and made by men? I don't know.

1:49:48 But for sure the models can't be trusted. And wash your hands after touching any raw meat. My God, for 25 years they've been growing babies in cows! You've got karma. Thank you for the classic request, Fred. Those are one of my favorites. We haven't heard that one for a while. Now you have Dr. Disorder at $333.33 and I cut down his note. This donation is from Dr. Disorder. He's on no agenda social. Happy Easter. Blessed the Lord. Blessed be the Lord gents. I'm coming to you from 33.9 parallel Los Angeles, California born on the 23rd and raising the dad dress at a three three dot oh three degrees in Solana Beach. I believe it.

1:52:58 So they're stylish. Very stylish. Yes. What do you want? This is exactly with the no agenda logo is perfect. Yeah. Now we got Steve to cost a three 33 in Colleyville, Texas. And I don't have a note from him either. What's going on people. I tried looking. I looked for the cost that wasn't in there. Let me check. Let me just do a quick scan. Okay. All right. Onward to the associate executive producer starting with anonymous. 250. Greetings from Wyoming, the state with no COVID deaths. Maybe because we don't sell the New York Times, except at Starbucks. Yeah, yeah, there you go. No mass hysteria.

1:53:47 You need some anonymous jobs, Karma. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. Sir, cake of the spring in Holly Springs, North Carolina, 250. Thanks for keeping my amygdala small during the pandemic. My wife and I, my wife, my wife and I, Quit watching what little MSN news we were watching since we saw How the media was trying to terrify the public no jingle but karma for everyone impacted by this shutdown Sir keg of the spring you've got karma Another missing note from sir dark fate who's in Dubai and

1:54:37 $250 and he'll be associate executive producer and we will await some commentary. I don't have anything either from him. I look through these pile of notes and see if there's anything that may be cropped up. Anonymous in Brooklyn, New York, 22220 for show. 1233 more coming via email and he's got his email address here. I didn't look that one up. I missed it. Sorry. Keep me anonymous of the note. If no notice found amount is daughter Lydia's birthday. First time de-douche me. No, I... You've been de-douched. I assume that we should put Lydia on the... just Lydia on the birthday list. Yeah, let me see if she's not on there already. Lydia, Lydia, Lydia, Lydia. Nope. So from anonymous? Jingles, we're all gonna die. Science is in. Little girl, yay.

1:55:38 So it's Lydia, does she have, Lydia has her birthday what, today? I don't know. Well, it's just somehow reflected in this. 2-2-2-2-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3- Okay, Lydia celebrates happy birthday Lydia's on the list yeah, and what we needed do we needed a Jingles it's true. It was we're all gonna die. We're all gonna die science is in little girl. Yeah, okay, and you gave him a de-douching Yes, we did that

1:56:30 The science is in! Science! Yay! Glad we did that. Maxine Waters, gravel's back. Oh, the gravel is back. Nice. Yeah, the gravel did not, was not around for a while. 2-19-19. Happy Easter and happy quarantines. Bob Barker, prison beds? If the price is right, I'll take one. Jingle request, Ching Chong, China, you might die. China a-hole, it's true. Thanks, brolf. Your COVID papers, please. Hold on a second. Okay, you mind die? He didn't say that. You mind die? Okay. Then the China is asshole. Then what did he want after that? It's true. And thanks, brolf. It's true.

1:57:25 Jeez, and that karma or is that it? No, he doesn't say karma. Okay Here we go. You might not China is asshole. It's good to be here bros. All right Another jamming sequence. Yeah, no kidding. We could you know that brawl thing is what I was gonna suggest for the end of show Good to be a bro at some point or another. Well, you know, I'm gonna well Well, hold on one second. Let's just stop for a second. I'm gonna put the broth in the ISO slot I did have some ISOs to test on you. Oh you did? Yeah, I got a Doctor. I got one. I got a Dr. Birx. We make sure that what we think is right is right We make sure that what we think is right is right. Hmm. Okay, not all that great. No. Is she mine?

1:58:19 I have a Fauci, but I want to sound like a broken record sound like a broken record and you have What is your ISO? I don't see it question. I don't think you sent your ISO. Yeah, I said one Mm-hmm doesn't say ISO. Well. I should have said that it should say I am looking I'm looking I'm looking no No, I didn't I know I sent one, but I don't have it on here. That's too bad. I Wow, I'm gonna lose. Yeah, because it's going to be good to be here bro. That's what it's gonna be. I love that one. Classic. Classic. Classic. All right, where are we? Uh, we are at Sir Ever of the What. Sir Ever of the What. And he said send an email. I may have. Oh yeah, uh, I have to look. I have to go get the email. It's still in the box.

1:59:16 That's okay, because whenever we go for email and it's in the quote box, then you know that it's not just in the box. It's left somewhere down amongst the thousands of emails that contain no spam because John C. Dvorak never gets spam, but he gets your email and he retrieves it with the best mail program in the universe. We call it the Magnificent! Yes, and I do have it good This is a nicely as a short. This is the one that this is one sir ever of the watt My brother is is my brother-in-law Tom McDonald's a great guy and I know he's agenda subscriber I wish to grant him knighthood and he's collected $1,400 for Wow, please knight him sir Thomas of the classic Chris craft cruisers No jingles nor no karma. Good. That's that's it. That's his that's his whole note. I

2:00:15 Yeah. Oh, that's fantastic. Thank you, Sir Ever the What. And we'll see him, not Sir Ever the What, we'll see his, what's his relationship to his brother-in-law? That's so nice. We'll see Tom at the podium in a bit. Martin. Macintyre, $200.38. Love the show. Thanks for all the insightful deconstruction and humor that you guys provide. It's my third donation, but I still not been de-douche. Okay, we can do it now. You've been de-douched. And now he's got three call outs that are not just douchebags, but major douchebags. Major douchebags. Yeah, I guess they're in the army.

2:01:03 So, uh, let's give him a call out one at a time. Call out drunk Gary. Gay Steve. And douchebag Doug. Yay. All right. Take it up with him later. Okay. Jingles. We're all going to die. Followed by clover char plus Larry David. That sounds pretty good. And I guess there's a letter. I don't know remember that but I guess there is birthday list my smoking hot wife crystal. All right It's gonna be 35 on the April 15th. I think she's on the list born on a tax day Yes, she is on the list and thank you very much Martin Pretty good Pretty good. I still love that one. Oh

2:02:01 So well, John Benson. Thank you, John. That was really that is a nice connect. That's done. Well, yeah, Moose, our buddy who did the art dollars, 33 cents in Palmer, Alaska, a case in Alaska or Arkansas. Arkansas is a R. OK, then it's Alaska. Yes, Alaska. I have been fortunate recipient of... Hello, he's Moose. Hello, Moose. Moose, Moose, die! I have been a fortunate recipient of karmic blessings as of late, so I find myself able to atone for my now long distant past douchebaggery. To all you douchebags out there, get a subscription at least, so it does wonders for your conscience.

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2:05:31 I want to bring at least one topic, political topic up just a little bit. It's less less COVID more politics. Okay, because I didn't have any Joe Biden clips. Oh, but I have a Joe Biden clip. Oh good. Well, you go to the Joe Biden clip after I play this so we get something out of the way because Cuomo came out and because all these Republicans are saying, ah, let's let's replace Joe Biden with Cuomo because Cuomo is better than the president. He's presidential. He shot down the, he shut down New York long after After Trump dilly-dallied, as it were, and he everything he's done and he's lied about needing 40,000 respirators and he talks like he's talking to a... Sounds like a perfect Democrat candidate. Yeah, well, the thing about it is he's...

2:06:21 Cuomo, we have to remember this, Cuomo killed his chances for ever becoming president with one stupid statement that he made. And I have two clips, I have the short version and the long version. And the entire one is the one we don't want. And the one we do want is the Cuomo clip of political death. We're not going to make America great again. It was never that great. Well how about that he also emphatically said, I am not running, I don't want to run, I'm not interested in running, I'm not gonna run. Look at my nipples. I've got rings.

2:07:01 So he is never gonna run for president, because all you have to do, you don't even have to hire an ad agency, just play that clip. Just play that over and over again. Now I wanted to play the whole thing, which is the longer part where he starts to discuss, because what he does, he says that, and then he hears from the audience, and he hears a lot of boos and jeers in there, because I guess he expected them all to stand up and give him a standing O? I really think that, because I think these globalists, Democrats and guys like him are very globalists are all right. I know there's one world government America sucks to be much better if he had a single world governing body that was more fair and all the rest of they really he's actually was being honest when he says it wasn't that great. He doesn't think much of the country. He's very sincere. So but he hears the jeering and he says, oh my God, I got to make up for this. So he

2:07:53 ad libs, a kind of a makeup. Well, the reason I said that is because we are OK. We could be great if we did this and that. And it's lame. And one of his little things in there is that we'd be better a great country if we'd stop stereotyping women. He puts that in there. What? OK, play the whole thing. We're not going to make America great again. It was never that great. We have not reached greatness. We will reach greatness when every American is fully engaged. We will reach greatness when discrimination and stereotyping against women, 51% of our population is gone. Oh brother, I know it was lame.

2:08:49 Oh, man. When stereotyping of women is gone, what is he talking about? Stereotyping. She's wearing a dress. Stereotyping of women. She's peeing sitting down. Stop stereotyping him curry so we can just kiss the Cuomo goodbye I don't need people who even suggest that he's gonna take Biden's place are living in a dream world The New York Times, let me see if I could find this tweet. So I'm going to Biden now. That's okay Now we've had this kind of annoying issue out there for Joe and

2:09:27 And that issue is Tara Reid. The rape. The finger rape, yes. Here's what the New York Times tweeted this morning. No other allegation about sexual assault surfaced in the course of our reporting, nor did any former Biden staff corroborate Reid's allegation. We found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Biden beyond hugs, kisses, and touching that women previously said made them uncomfortable. Do they believe what they're writing themselves? They're in the bag! We found no... just listen to this. This is a rare one. You don't get to see it this blatant often.

2:10:15 We found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Biden beyond hugs, kisses, and touching that women previously said made them uncomfortable. Now, that's an interesting way to insert the word previously, so maybe they're okay with it now, or maybe before he stopped being creepy that they weren't okay with it. But to say that you find no pattern of sexual misconduct besides hugging, kissing, and touching that women didn't like, what the hell is going on? That is a pattern of sexual misconduct!

2:10:55 Can the New York Times live with themselves? They're horrible. Now, this is again the Chinese influence. I think the Chinese, because they've done business with this kid and him and he's been over there a number of times, the Chinese are all in on Biden and the way they see these elections is they're phony anyway and they can just, we want Biden, so we want Biden to be the president of the United States. They're really, I'm honestly thinking that the Chinese are believing this. The Chinese don't only believe it, they're in control of our media, vast control. So, I believe Tara Reid has now filed an official complaint. Of course, it's statute of limitations, it's all gone, but she's going to be a problem for Bo Jiden and his campaign. So, what do you do when you're an old-school politician? If you are being accused of some sexual misconduct, immediately you get on board with some great anti-sexual misconduct campaign.

2:11:57 In this case, they rolled out the presidential model, the MKUltra Lady Gaga. Our hero is not only a great friend, but a fierce advocate. Lady Gaga has been the voice for people who have been forgotten and people who have been abused. Until it happens to you, well, it happened to her. And she's shown enormous courage. And we want to make it real clear. It's on us. It's on everyone to intervene, to stop abuse when they see it and when they hear about it, to intervene. It's no man has a right to raise a hand to a woman for any reason other than self-defense ever, period.

2:12:32 And that's not to leave out the men as well. That's true. I am a sexual assault survivor and I know the effects, the aftermath, the trauma, psychological, physical, mental. It can be terrifying waking up every day feeling unsafe in your own body. But we're here to remind you that it's important to reach out to someone in your life that you can trust and to know that they will be there to help you. There will be someone to listen. Because you know what? It's on us. I mean, really? And that's it. That's like digging the hole even deeper as far as I'm concerned. I agree with that. Luckily, though, he's still using his same sound guy. So it could easily be mistaken for this white noise. That's for sure. It's so unprofessional. The comment that she made, which I thought was interesting, which was

2:13:27 Feeling unsafe in your own, and I'm anticipating where she speaks, feeling unsafe in your own home, in your own environment, but feeling unsafe in your own body? What does that mean? I mean if she's just you know getting beat up, she's by an abuser, you'd feel unsafe in your own home. You know what? I would stop if I were you because this is not something we can venture into. I think that yes, I think that women who've been abused, anyone who's been abused can feel not safe in their own body. I can understand that. I've just never heard that before. Okay, right. But it's, there's, yes, I think that is very true.

2:14:12 But, still, for him to go out and do that is like, no. You were bringing up China with the media. I was going to say one more thing. What does Gaga think she's doing here, helping Biden? Well, she's ramping up, she's getting geared up for the big April 18th New World Order Global Citizen World Health Organization concert. So she's getting out there, she needs to promote. And she's all in for Joe, I guess. And she wants to help. Someone put in the calls, like, hey, we got some heat now, so we gotta show that Joe is a good guy. Could we get you to do a little promo? Don't worry, we got professional camera and sound guys. It'll be great. Don't worry, Gaga. It's gonna be fine. Yep, there you go. Vote Blue no matter who. The White House has their 1600 daily, kind of like a blog, I guess, at WhiteHouse.gov.

2:15:16 And over the weekend, let's see, Friday, they posted this article. Voice, this is so, it's from the White House. Voice of America spends your money to speak for authoritarian regimes. Voice of America is a global news network funded by American taxpayers. It spends about $200 million each year on its mission to quote, tell America's story, end quote, and quote, present the policies of the United States clearly and efficiently to people around the globe. Today, however, Voice of America too often speaks for America's adversaries, not its citizens.

2:15:58 The coronavirus pandemic is no exception. Secrecy from the Communist Party of China allowed the deadly virus to spread across the world. Journalists should report the facts, but Voice of America has instead amplified Beijing's propaganda. This week, Voice of America called China's Wuhan lockdown a successful model copied by much of the world and then tweeted out a video of the Communist government's celebratory light show marking the quarantine's alleged end. This is an odd thing to do. Wow!

2:16:35 I mean, and I will, I'll say that I've noticed because I look at Voice of America's RSS feed and their Twitter, to me they were sounding a bit more like RT than anything. You know, in fact a little crackpot-y from time to time. But when it comes to coronavirus, anti-president. Anti-president. So who's the bosses of VOA? Is that the State Department? It's the Broadcast Board of Governors. Let's see who's on it currently. Now, you know, Tucker Carlson's dad used to be that. Did you know that? No, probably doesn't add much to my life. Oh, they changed the name, I guess. Oh, it's the USAGM now, the U.S. Agency for Global Media.

2:17:30 is an independent federal agency overseeing public service media networks. A quango! A quango, exactly, that provide unbiased news and information in countries where the press is restricted. But I'd like to know who's on the board, because this is what used to be the Who we are, mission board, here we go. Okay, board ready? Let's see who's determining what voice of Ameri- $200 million by the way, we could do a pretty good show. I could put a pretty good Twitter account together. Okay, Ken Weinstein is the chairman of the board, he's from the Hudson Institute. What?

2:18:09 Democrats. Yep. Leon Aron, he's the resident scholar. He was Voice of America's Russian language. Okay, so not important. Ryan Crocker, no one important. Michael Kempner, he's from a public relations firm. Karen Kornbluh, she's at the German Marshalls Fund technology program. Crikey, that's still around. Pompeo's on it. What the hell? Ex officio board member. No, he was on he was on it. Yeah, so they just throw him in to make it look good I'm interesting. Well, we'll have to look into this. Yeah, you know, I did a thing a thing on voice of America some years ago I was interviewed for something and I Ended up because of that interview with a with a clock from the studio Not It happens it's no I feel a clock Oh

2:19:08 So they had these IBM clocks, well I want it because they're collectible, I need more stuff to collect, but it said IBM. IBM used to make butcher scales and they made these clocks for radio stations. And there were all these click, click, click. synchronized clock. Didn't have a central unit? Yes, there was a central clock unit somewhere that synchronized so all the clocks click click click and so when it hits you and it's a big click it's not like a it's not a moving hand it's like clicking so when it hits boom it hits and you're at noon you cut to commercial or whatever. In those days you had to cut to the call sign. So I had

2:19:51 See I saw these as this is our grade he says I do they still say I mean he says well we're getting rid of them We're gonna go to all digital. We're gonna have the digital clock. So you said hey, can I have them? And did you get the the box as well? The Box is not available, but I did get the clock. That's too bad And I got somebody sent me a fix for the clock I could make it work as a regular clock it would click click click away But it wouldn't be synchronized to anything except the current of the local of the house, but I yeah, I got the clock nice by asking I Always tell the kids to do that. Yeah, you should do that especially in North Korea. I

2:20:30 Always ask if you can take the clock or the poster. It's better to ask. Let me see what else did I have on the... Ah! So we're prisoners in our home, basically. Yeah. Michael Avenatti temporarily freed from jail due to coronavirus fears. He gets to stay at a house of a buddy of his with a GPS bracelet. He gets out. It's kind of sad, isn't it? I'd say. Stupid guys. Well, Warren, I do have a couple of, I will like to get at least get these

2:21:15 Around the world world report. Yeah, we started out with Sweden and we never went to any other ones. That was great. Let's continue Hey, Sweden, what else what's going on in other countries John? First of all, there's one piece of news in this report that has not been touched by the mainstream media I don't think anyone knows what quite to do with this piece of news and this is the report I got this from Reuters and it's the South Korea report and South Korean officials reported on Friday that at least 91 patients thought cleared of the new coronavirus had tested positive again. Korea's Center for Disease Control and Prevention have said that the virus may have been reactivated rather than the patients being reinfected.

2:22:07 But authorities say it remains unclear what is behind the trend and that investigations are still underway. Some experts have suggested that false test results could also be at fault, but may not be infectious or of danger to the host or others. But the prospect of people being reinfected with the virus is of international concern. Many countries are hoping and relying on infected populations developing sufficient immunity to prevent a resurgence of the virus. South Korea on Friday reported its lowest number of new infections after daily cases peaked at more than 900 in late February and the death toll rose to at least 211. I'm bummed about that because Fauci addressed this, this reactivation which was presented in the question and answer as some people are getting reinfected.

2:22:54 You know, that's typical for a US journalist. And he says, could you read the report for me? And the guy says, yeah, reactivate it. Okay, it's not reinfected. Reactivate. He said that that can be after two hours. You know, he says, I need to know more about the time. Sounds highly unlikely. If it happens, it could have been a wrong test. So long story short. And remember, we're supposed to believe everything Dr. Fauci says. Yeah. Yeah. Well, Anyway, I thought that was kind of disconcerting. Onward to other places. Let's go to the UK. Okay, how's the COVID-UK? Cases of the new coronavirus have not yet reached their peak in the UK, meaning tight lockdown restrictions won't be easing anytime soon, Britain's health minister said on Saturday.

2:23:42 The death toll in hospitals across the country stood at almost 9,000 as of Friday, with more than 980 fatalities recorded, a figure which exceeded the deadliest day so far in Italy, the country worst hit by the virus and Britain's worst day yet. Among those infected is Prime Minister Boris Johnson, who is recovering in hospital after spending three days in an intensive care unit. His office said he was improving and back on his feet. but that his recovery was still at an early stage. It's unclear how long he'll be incapacitated for. Britain imposed a lockdown three weeks ago in a bid to curb the spread of the virus. The government has come under increasing pressure to detail how long the strict measures on movement will last, with people forced to stay at home and many businesses unable to operate. I'm so happy you take the time to do this. It's so easy to forget that

2:24:32 That there's more besides it. I think most people have this at this moment almost no citizen in the world is thinking global All you can think about is your own family, you know your own situation. The opposite of the intended effect. Thank you. No one is thinking, even I'm not thinking about it and then you know we force ourselves like okay what's going on over here because it is everywhere. It is everywhere. I'll do a quick Netherlands update. The latest is that there will be an app required to when the prison gates open up If 60% of the Dutch people download it and use it, it won't be mandated. That's... which I think is a great way for the government to come out about something.

2:25:19 Listen if 60% of the country downloads the app voluntarily and uses it we won't have to mandate it I Think that most people will download it. Yes, they will 70 80 percent will use it of course they ride around here at least to 70% Oh, yeah, yeah, I know one person who won't be using it. Yeah me I got a flip phone. Yeah, well I keep my phone in a drawer. Yeah, I don't even carry a flip phone I Okay, let's go to right now. The funniest report is probably this one is Russia apparently There's no the Russians think that they're immune from everything and largely because of these Cossacks that are out there training the children For Russia EGOF is prepared to take on any enemy including the coronavirus

2:26:07 Since early February he has been in charge of this special patrol by the Ural Cossacks. They hand out face masks in their neighborhood of Yekaterinburg and check people for signs of a cold. Igor Gorbunov is an Ottoman, one of the heads of the Ural Cossacks. People here recognize them by their uniforms and some of their recommendations on how to stay healthy are just as old-fashioned We recommend our traditional remedies having honey garlic and raspberry jam and keeping two basic rules of personal hygiene When people come in from outside They should wash their hands and take off their outdoor clothes. We Cossacks decided to help our government with the coronavirus because we care about the faith of Russia. The Cossacks carry holy water along with them for extra protection against the virus.

2:26:57 These vigilante patrols weren't authorized by the city, but in Russia Cossacks often support the state security forces and act as unofficial guardians of public order. The next morning, Cossack teenagers try their hand at a paramilitary drill. From the late 18th century, Cossacks defended the borders of the Russian Empire. Since the fall of the Soviet Union, Cossack identity has had a revival. Anyone can now become a Cossack. Being patriotic, conservative, and ready to fight is key. Wow. Who knew? Raspberry jam and vodka. It's on the list. Yeah, that would probably help.

2:27:36 That's why I said, yeah, let's go to Poland. One of the first countries in Europe to close its borders and impose a lockdown was Poland. The number of reported coronavirus cases and fatalities appear fairly low, but critics say that's largely because few tests are carried out by the country's underfunded health service. On top of that, Poland has another issue. Under pressure from its powerful Roman Catholic Church, the government has allowed more believers into church for Easter services than was originally envisaged under lockdown regulations. From Warsaw, Julian Berner files this report.

2:28:12 Poland's health minister announcing further social distancing steps last week. One is that for two hours each morning, shops are only allowed to serve senior citizens to help them beat the crowds. But what many call an unholy alliance between the ruling Nationalist Party and the Roman Catholic Church has produced a dangerous precedent. For Easter, the number of those allowed into a church has been raised from 5 to 50. Observers say this could easily get out of hand, like at the outset of the epidemic, when crowds attended services organized by priests who defied official regulations. Against the advice of medical specialists, they distributed communion wafers straight into the mouths of mostly elderly churchgoers. At least one of the priests has turned out to be infected.

2:29:01 The church appears divided on the issue. In a video message quoting an official stance of the Polish Episcopate, Kraków Archbishop Marek Jędraszewski has called on believers to pray at home with their families. He said the faithful should pray to spur Poland, Europe and the world from the epidemic. I'm very much liking this soft-spoken German guy. It's very nice. You know, the pastor was infected. That was Deutsche Welle. Yes. I do have this one. I think it's part of the same thing, but this is the COVID Wuhan Fink clip. And here at this live food market in Wuhan, China, a mysterious virus born in its shops, triggering a wave of illnesses. The Internet soon filled with pictures of... OK, stop, stop, stop. I got to set this up.

2:29:49 So this is, I don't know why this was run recently, but this is kind of the, it started off as a report on, it was like an overall report that I guess was supposed to be in the general distribution describing how the whole thing began, you know, with the bat and all the rest of it. And then they, and I realized this is a piece of Chinese, government Chinese propaganda, and I cut it off after a while because I just couldn't take it anymore, Tell me if you can spot a moment that's just completely out of place, doesn't make any sense, and it's all part of this report. You started over with that in mind.

2:30:27 And here at this live food market in Wuhan, China, a mysterious virus born in its shops, triggering a wave of illnesses. The Internet soon filled with pictures of hospitals at breaking point and the body bags piling up on buses. Images brought to the world by citizen journalists risking life and liberty. I'm not even scared of death. You think I'm afraid of the Communist Party? China scrambled its massive resources in the most ambitious containment efforts ever seen.

2:31:12 And it was a guy, it was a guy screaming into a camera, shaking his fist at the Chinese government party. This is bull crap. This was done either as a setup to encourage other people to do that so they get caught. Or it was a honey trap. I'm not sure what it was, or to convince us that there is some underground pictures, because what they showed was a bunch of body bags and buses and a bunch of things that look staged. And probably staged by the party and to make us convinced is that somebody went through the whole tape this thing went on for five minutes Somebody went through the whole thing says, you know, this looks kind of stage Can we can we put a fake journalist in a citizen journalist? Right, right. I mean, right and then edit him in love you. I'm not even scared of death. I

2:32:00 You think I'm afraid of the Communist Party? China squ- It's so jacked in there too, it's great. That was a guest, that was a guest. She had- She had a clap that they're trying to do. I keep seeing little mentions here and there that she is having problems. The CCP is not happy with Xi. So, you know, let's see. Foreign affairs- It's a possibility there could be propaganda on our side. Well, that would yes that would make a lot of sense The only reason I keep bringing it up is because this is something but Chenick was has been hammering on for a long time He's saying she is losing control. He's going to lose control. The party's not going to trust them. The economy doesn't trust him anymore He's not handling Trump right that's probably one of the elements yeah, he may be losing to Trump and The party I don't think if I was a party member

2:32:59 Rank and file to large group of people and this guy all of a sudden makes himself permanent if Trump loses if Trump loses the election You'll be a party member. So don't worry about it Yeah, well that may be true. But the it's true, but it's a Once he decided to become emperor by proclaiming proclaims of lifetime, you know Ruler dictatorship. I think that rubbed a few people in the party the wrong way. Yeah Yeah, yeah, I mean the idea was you get a guy in there and you rotate you they're old already and he but that's but CG is she and They like worship in China. They worship Mao and

2:33:45 Then we got the... He's not Mao. No, he's certainly not Mao, but he understands the worship. I think he's worshipped in China, or was, or who knows. Well, not necessarily by the party. I mean, maybe by the public. No, no, no, by the people who now, you know, the economy is not propping him up anymore. But I agree with you, the idea has not been of the CCP has not been to have a figurehead, but to have a rotating person who, you know, the party is, it's always the party, it's never going to be the person. Yeah, he's put himself above the party, but it looks like he's got some trouble Well, I would surprise you. They use you're in a bureaucracy of any sort especially a government job Yeah, you have a lot of time to scheme a lot of people don't realize that but most of these government jobs You got a guy that's a schemer and he's in the organization He's gonna be scheming And there's got to be a lot of those guys in China schemers gonna scheme schemers got a scheme and

2:34:49 All right, well, let me throw three clips out here before we take a break. Or do you have something else that pertains to the world? Do you have more COVID world reports? I do. Well, I do have a New York report that's getting stale. Okay, well, let's see if it's getting stale. I saved it for a reason. Do you remember the reason? No, because there's been two shows. Okay, which one is it? I don't see it. This is the coronavirus capital, New York City. From PBS? Two and three, yeah. Okay, let's see. In the nation's coronavirus epicenter, Governor Andrew Cuomo said the hospitalization rate may be slowing. We are flattening the curve by what we are doing. But that doesn't mean people should be any less vigilant. If we stop what we are doing, you will see that curve change.

2:35:41 That curve is purely a function of what we do day in and day out. In fact, yesterday New York saw the highest number of deaths yet in a single day. Nearly 800. In New York City there have been so many deaths, authorities are using refrigerated trucks to store remains. And New York's numbers show that African Americans and Hispanics there are dying at higher rates than whites. We're here for you and we support you. Amid the grim work on the medical front lines, signs of support. And of course these have all been debunked one way or another. That big van that carries the dead bodies, they keep showing it, there's nothing in it. Oh also as another data point, now they're talking about they have to bury everybody on Heart Island, it's so bad.

2:36:32 in New York. Yeah. Well, little known fact, in December last year, the city appropriated Heart Island for burial of people. Also for homeless and people who had no money to be buried anywhere else. It's been designated a burial ground and it's owned, it's operated by New York Parks since December. So it's any report that says, oh my god, it's so bad we have to bury him on some island in a big trench. The trench, it's all been arranged, it's all been set up.

2:37:08 Anyway, that's good. Yeah, but let's play part two of this reporter Meanwhile, the University of Washington's forecasting model one of many often cited by the White House lowered its estimate of u.s. Coronavirus deaths today it projected more than 60,000 Americans would die by early August and so on what's that? Oh and lowered since then. Oh yeah. 84,000. The University of Washington's model has been on the low side and there are questions about the accuracy of the official death count. Some say it may overlook those who die at home without seeking medical care and those who die without being tested for coronavirus. In Washington DC, Trump administration officials say they are planning for life after the pandemic but caution that was still a ways off.

2:37:58 Yeah. Such bogus. So they finish up with part three. We'll go there. In Geneva, the World Health Organization director general responded to the president's charge that the group mishandled the pandemic. When there are cracks at national level and global level, That's when the virus succeeds. In Britain where more than 6,000 people have died, Prime Minister Boris Johnson is said to be getting better after a third night in the hospital. His condition is improving. I can also tell you that that he has been sitting up in bed and engaging positively with the clinical team. Spirits were also high in Wuhan, China, where the outbreak began after its 76-day lockdown was lifted.

2:38:45 Tens of thousands of people rushed to leave the city of 11 million, clogging bus terminals and train stations. Authorities wearing masks and protective gear checked travelers for fevers. For some who had been stuck in Wuhan, it was a welcome relief. I haven't been out since January 21st. This is the first time I've left my house today. Now I'm going back home to meet my parents. Wow, she doesn't have to go back to the factory? She gets to go home. Maybe it's all code. We don't know. We don't know. How can you know? I'm going home to meet my parents. Means you're going to this slave labor factory. That's the Gucci factory. Parents of the Gucci factory. It's like Pizzagate. It's a little different.

2:39:35 Just speaking of the World Health Organization, just want to make sure we slip this clip in because the president is done with them. Can you explain why it is appropriate in the middle of a pandemic to be talking about cutting or eliminating funding for the World Health Organization? I love the question. The question is are you going to cut? Why are you going to cut? The question is why do you think it's appropriate? to do that. During a pandemic? Well, we're going to talk about the WHO next week in great detail. I didn't want to do it today. Good Friday. I didn't want to do it before Easter. I mean, why upset Christians? I also didn't want to do it before we have all the facts, but over the years, many years, we've been paying them from $300 to $500 and even more, a million dollars a year. China has been paying them less than $40.

2:40:28 Over the years, so we're paying them more than ten times more than China and they are very very China centric as I said during the week China centric China always seems the better to get the better of the the argument and I don't like that. I really don't like that. I don't think that's appropriate. I don't think it's fair to the American people and You know I tell that to President Xi I tell that to Dr. Tedros, I spoke to him one time. I think he's a very nice man. I liked him. But we're going to be talking about that next week in great detail. We're looking at it very, very closely. Yeah, you guys are screwing.

2:41:10 dragging out an answer. But yeah, I do have you might as well play my WHO report, which is from Reuters. And it's this guy. Apparently, I guess he heard what Trump just said and he just goes nuts. The World Health Organization warned countries on Friday to be cautious about lifting restrictions introduced to curb the spread of the coronavirus. Director General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus. I've seen a welcome slowing in some of the hardest hit countries in Europe, like Spain, Italy, Germany and France. Some countries are already planning the transition out of stay-at-home restrictions. WHO wants to see restrictions lifted as much as anyone. At the same time, lifting restrictions too quickly could lead to a deadly resurgence.

2:42:08 The way down can be as dangerous as the way up if not managed properly. And I don't think there is, from what we have seen now, no country is immune. No country can claim that it has a strong public health system or a strong health system. He also voiced concerns the virus was taking hold in Africa. We have seen an alarming acceleration in other countries. I want to take a moment to highlight Africa, where we're seeing the spread of the virus to rural areas. We're now seeing clusters of cases and communities spread in more than 16 countries. We anticipate severe hardship for already overstretched health systems, particularly in rural areas.

2:42:58 which normally lack the resources of those in cities. The WHO also said that Japan may have to ramp up its measures to tackle COVID-19 after cases have been found in some parts of the country with no known links to other outbreaks. But added that recent data showed that Japan was taking aggressive measures in some areas. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Trying to assert the global, you know, the global governance. Yeah, yeah. Well, that's not gonna fly. Someone in the, a gummy nerds in the troll room, you know, says, interesting that our, our stimulus, our saving money act is called the CARES Act. It's kind of fun if you put WHO in front of that.

2:43:54 It is. It's kind of. Who cares is right. It's kind of what it is. All right. Before, before we get, we have some people to thank. Well you know what, I'll play these right after. Let's do this because these are the ones that are the most fun. These are the people who were above $50 and are plentiful. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. And a few people, thanks, starting with Jim James Nicol, who hoped

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2:55:02 I got three clips shorts three shorts. They're all yeah, what you got? I have a couple of clips left over is not important. I could say a two of them might be interesting. One is kind of punchy, it's kind of funny, but it's because there's Noam Chomsky. You know there's nobody more exciting than him. Yeah, really, that's why I'm going straight to Bill Barr, because if we're talking Mr. Excitement, it would be the Attorney General of the United States, who was, however, interviewed by Laura Ingraham, which I enjoyed. I'm not a fan of Ingraham. Actually, I'd say I'm an anti. I'm really not a fan of Ingraham.

2:56:06 But she approached him, and she's a lawyer, so she approached him as a lawyer, and there were some interesting questions, and I did like some of the answers that he gave. And just like Trump, you know, since the media is not doing us any service, because of course if Barr does an interview on Fox, well we can't use that as reporting anywhere else, it's the enemy! But he says stuff that you gotta catch it and we're just not being served by the media so we'll have to do it. Listen for the terms he's using here about China. He is definitely he's got his eye on China The department is heavily engaged in that in fact that one of our highest priorities in the counterintelligence realm Counter espionage realm and protection of trade secrets is our activities directed to defend against the Chinese the Chinese are engaged in a full court blitzkrieg and

2:57:00 of stealing American technology. That's a very interesting term to use because I just learned about the Blitzkrieg. What? Yeah, the Blitzkrieg was kind of an empty thing. No, it was it looked impressive, but there was nothing behind it. Well, it was behind it was the other side being a bunch of losers. There's that. But to use the Blitzkrieg term in. Well, he is also the mixed metaphor, full court Blitzkrieg. Come on. It's very, very lame. Trying to influence our political system, trying to steal secrets at our research universities and so forth.

2:57:42 And we are focused on it. We have something we call the China Initiative. We brought a lot of indictments, but it's something that we also have to expose by letting the business community understand exactly the nature of the threat. Still waiting for the indictments. He did have those indictments with the Harvard... By the way, Durham, Inspector General Durham has sent out subpoenas for a grand jury. Not quite sealed indictments yet, but they're subpoenaed. Everyone's all jacked. This is big news, man! Durham's sending out subpoenas. I think it's all bull, Durham. I think so too.

2:58:22 Here is Ingraham asking about the evil Bill Gates digital certificates. The Gates Foundation are in favor of developing digital certificates that would certify that individuals, American citizens, have an immunity to this virus and particularly potentially other viruses going forward to then facilitate travel and work and so forth. What are your thoughts from a civil libertarian point of view about these types of, what some would say, tracking mechanisms that would be adopted going forward to reopen our broader economy?

2:59:02 Yeah, I'm very concerned about the slippery slope in terms of continuing encroachments on personal liberty. I do think during the emergency, appropriate reasonable steps are fine. But a digital certificate to show who has recovered or been tested recently Or when we have a vaccine who has people who've received it. That's his answer on a Reddit Ask Me Anything. They had a little forum. I'd be a little concerned about that and the tracking of people and so forth, generally, especially going forward over a long period of time. What Barr's thinking is, that's our job, damn it. Bill Gates horning in on our action. We track the citizens, not you, Bill Gates. Slippery slope.

2:59:50 It's creepy a case would even consider this idea. It's the idea. It's not consideration. It's the idea. And then finally, just some comment about the media in general. No, I have been surprised at it. In fact, it was very disappointing because I think the president went out at the beginning of this thing and really was statesman-like, trying to bring people together, working with all the governors, keeping his patience as he got these snarky gotcha questions from the White House media pool.

3:00:25 And the stridency of the partisan attacks on him has gotten higher and higher, and it's really disappointing to see. And the politicization of decisions like the hydroxychloroquine has been amazing to me. Before the president said anything about it, there was fair and balanced coverage of this very promising... Hold on, that's a tell right there. What he's saying before the president talked about there was fair and balanced coverage does that mean only Fox News talked about it? Well fair and balance is really a Bill O'Reilly. It's it's well, but it's it's kind of the Fox slogan. Yeah Well, yeah, I guess I guess you would it could easily be perceived that way. I

3:01:17 I don't know. Let me finish. The president said anything about it. There was fair and balanced coverage of this very promising drug and the fact that it had such a long track record that the risks were pretty well known. And as soon as he said something positive about it, the media has been on a jihad to discredit the drug. It's quite strange. Well, isn't that interesting? First, we have the German blitzkrieg. Then we have the Islamic Jihad. What did we miss? We missed the crusade. He should have mentioned a crusade somewhere and we would have had a couple religions in there. Well, I think the clip is interesting because what he pointed out was exactly what you pointed out early, or now Olaf pointed out.

3:02:01 in this letter to us, that the media was like feeling one way about what the Swedes are doing, like, this sucks, it's not the way we should do it. And then Trump says it's not the way they should be doing it. They turned on a dime. Like, yeah, we're great. This is the way to do it. I mean, how bad is the media? Yeah. Well, here's an example I'm going to finish with. Okay. They brought on, I go to Democracy Now! weekly, I try to get some clips on one of the days. most reliable day, but Friday's a good day if they actually have news. But often Amy takes Friday off by putting on some one guy to yak away, and sometimes it's good, sometimes it's not. This last Friday she put on Noam Chomsky, who's retired and now he has a David Letterman beard, this huge white beard. He looks like shit and he can barely talk. And he's in Arizona, you know, where there's, and he's making a point of,

3:03:01 virtue signaling that he's at home, he refuses to go outside. So they bring him on and I only have like, I didn't get her intro, I cut that out and then I have a total of 54 seconds of him saying absolutely nothing because he keeps saying, this is indescribable, this is beyond description. And it's like, what good is he if this is his answer to everything? And so this is a short clip might be a good way to end it. It means that the policies of the past four years, which have been extremely destructive to the American population, to the world, will be continued and probably accelerated. What this is going to mean for health is bad enough. I just mentioned the Lancet figures. It'll get worse.

3:04:12 What this means for the environment or the threat of nuclear war, which no one is talking about, but is extremely serious, is indescribable. I think I'll take a bath and put on a Leonard Cohen record and drag in the toaster. It's about it the press guy in the world well, thanks Yeah, mr.. Excite happy notes everybody happy notes. That's it. We're way over time the affiliates are pissed off Done it again somehow this damn coronavirus. I got a big show coming up on Thursday Thursday show one two three four three four numerology to the max end of show mixes Leo la puke Deanna way We have Rolando Gonzales John Fletcher and Tom Stark weather yes, it's a bonanza you guys have gotten dying creative in this Rona

3:05:13 Rona situation everybody's at home doing mixes even though some of you shouldn't be we're still gonna play And after the show on no agenda stream calm the grumpy old Ben celebrate their one-year anniversary Congratulations to them coming to you from opportunity zone 33 here in Austin, Texas capital the drone star state FEMA region number six in the governmental maps in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where I've got a big piece of pork on the outside barbecue cooking away. It'll be going for 10 hours. I'm John C. Dvorak. We return on Thursday right here on No Agenda. Remember us at dvorak.org slash NA until then. Adios mofos! And such. It comes from China. Fight the Chinese virus. Fight the Chinese virus. Fight.

3:06:12 Why do you keep calling this the Chinese virus? It comes from China. That's why. China. China. China. China. China. It comes from China. It's not a racist at all, no. It comes from China. China. Fight the Chinese virus. It comes from China. Fight the Chinese virus. Today I'm also announcing the launch of a new public-private consortium organized by the White House, the Department of Energy,

3:07:22 and IBM to unleash the power of American supercomputing resources to fight the Chinese virus. As the CDC continue to study the spread of COVID-19, they're recommending that people wear cloth face coverings in public settings where social distancing measures can be difficult to maintain. I wear my face mask when outside so I can, so I can stand in line at the grocery store. And I wear my face mask when outside, I have to, I have to, because of the governor's order.

3:08:12 Wearing it makes it hard to see Hope it doesn't alarm security Can't take it off when I go pee I'd rather be playing Yahtzee How dare you? Why would you say that we have enough mental equipment? The answer is yes. Do we have enough tests? No. Do we have enough PPE? No. Be sure to stock extra toilet paper. If you look at some of these questions, do we have enough masks? No. And making sure that what we're doing is based on all the science available. Some items that you could absolutely serve are these fun chips. These are homemade beet chips, which are fabulous and they're very, very different. I think the answer is yes. Who said no to this? I'm saying this one. No, no, you're saying no. But who said no? We've had conversations the last few days to say, is it viable? Is it safe? Is it smart? Would it work? Would it help our children?

3:09:09 And then you fill the table with lots of alcohol because everyone's gonna have fun if they're drinking lots of alcohol. You know what? Staying at home leads to death also. And most of all we have to think before we act. These are all big decisions. Why would you say that we have enough medical equipment? The answer is yes. The data is junk. The numbers are what count here. The initial numbers were 2 million Americans dead. The models are wrong. The numbers are wrong. The models are the models. The numbers are what count here. Fauci and Birx have fallen through the baskets. We are impressed by the American success. I would say between 100 and 200,000 places, but I don't want to be held to that. The numbers are what count here. This is so dystopian. It's exponential growth. It's an extreme measure. This is new information that isn't official. The numbers are what count here.

3:10:03 Everything we're being shown is based upon bull crap data, inconsistent data, models that change not once, not twice, not three times, but four times. Total lie. numbers are what count here an opportunity to lie to deflect to attack to bully if either of you would like to talk about that it's a fair question numbers are what count here although covid 19 is affecting us in different ways we have to be up to it

3:10:41 fight together. Beware of the tell. The numbers are what count here. President Trump has asked, what do you have to lose? Medical experts say your life. We're trying to understand that. The numbers are what count here. I think this will change how people look at respiratory diseases. They're just marking every death as COVID-19. The numbers are what count here. If someone dies with COVID-19, we are counting that. Allergy and disease are formidable opponents. Of course, shit. The numbers are what count here, leaders need to be watched. Wash your hands more often than you ever dreamed possible. Wash your hands, wash, wash, wash, wash, wash your hands more often than you ever dreamed possible.

3:11:23 We need you to do this, if not for yourself, then for your abuela. Wash your hands. Wash, wash, wash, wash, wash your hands. Do it for your granddaddy. Wash your hands. Do it for your papa. Wash, wash, wash, wash, wash your hands more often than you ever dreamed possible. Especially in communities of color. Wash, wash, wash, wash, wash your hands. Wash, wash, wash, wash, do it for your big mama. Do it for your big mama more often than you ever dreamed possible. We need you to step up right now.

3:12:04 We need you to step up right now. We need you to do this for your abuela. Do it for your granddaddy. Wash, wash, wash. Do it for your papa. Wash, wash, do it for your big mama. Wash your hands more often than you ever dreamed possible. And speaking of mothers, check in on your mother she wants to hear from you right now. Right now. Right now. Avoid alcohol, tobacco, and drugs. We need you to do this for your abuela. Wash, wash, wash your hands. Do it for your big mama. Wash, wash, wash your hands. Do it for your papa. Wash, wash, wash your hands more often than you ever dreamed possible.

3:12:51 The best podcast in the universe! Good to be here, bros.