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00:00 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Adam Curry, John C. DeVorah. And Sunday October 20th 2019 this is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode 1183 This Is No Agenda Applying for the Russian asset position and broadcasting live from Opportunity Zone 33, the frontier of Austin Texas capital of the drone star state. In The Morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley where i am watching Pete Buttigieg throw Tulsi Gabbard under the bus as a Russian agent. I'm John C DeBore It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In The Mornin' Oh is Mary Pete?

00:40 Piling on? Mary-Pete. I didn't get it as a late clip, by the way there's a bonus clip. Yeah, I got your bonus clip. I almost got a bonus clip of it but so he's on Meet The Press with Todd. Chuck Todd! Chip Chodd! The Todd cast! It's the Todd cast everybody and Todd asks him about this and Buddha judge says well, he's just gonna paraphrase but believe me you can watch this I'll get a clip of play on the next show. He says well, I don't want to get in the middle of anything Well, yes, he does Yes, he does Yeah, I don't want to get into yeah, it does a sandwich. I don't want to get in the middle of anything he says but

01:24 You know, the Russians have been blah blah blah. And then Todd pushed him further and he says I don't want to talk about it." Well you know where this stems from? This stems from... let me just hold on for a second 15 years ago i never thought that I'd be talking with you on a podcast about something Hillary Clinton said on a podcast. Whoever could have thought this would take place? This is a beautiful invention and as you know people like to go all out in the podcasts, and this is where Mary Pete's getting it from

02:04 Did you hear this whole Hillary podcast with David Plouffe? I've not heard the whole thing but i'm familiar with it what happened. All right so, I'll play the relevant part first which is the one that Pete Buttigieg is piling on to this is what Hillary Clinton said on the podcast with David Plouffe who is not just any old podcaster, no no besides a very boomy room and sirens wailing outside. He was also the campaign manager for Obama 2008? And I'm not sure if he did anything in 2012... well i'm sure he did something

02:42 So he has a podcast and this is what went down. One of the reasons he was able to win is the third party vote, right? And what's clear to me you mentioned, you know, he's going on just lie I mean, you forgot where he's gonna say whoever our nominee is will ban hamburgers and steaks and fly and infanticide and people believe that so how concerned are you about that for me so much of this does come down to the wind number if he has to get 49 or even forty nine point five I don't think he can. So, he's going to try and drive people not to vote for him but just to say you know you can't vote for them either and that seems to be – I think to the extent that I can define a strategy they're key strategy right now. Well, I think there are two parts … What? Isn't it beautiful? Convoluted logic! This is why I have three clips from this podcast.

03:30 The stuff they're saying is like, what? And infanticide and blah-blah. What is all this? I mean do we—do you want to hear it again or you just want to move on? You tell me. It's too unbelievably…it's just screwy but okay now just moving ahead. To the extent that I can define a strategy there are key strategies right now Well I think there's going to be two parts and I think it's going to be the same as 2016 Don't vote for the other guy. You don't like me Don't vote for the other guy because the other guys gonna do X Y & Z or the other guy did such terrible things I'm going to show you in these Of course, of course you can interrupt so what she's saying apparently

04:09 Apparently nobody has ever done anything like that in the past. There's never been a Ross Perot as a third party? Never been anyone says don't vote for her, you know if you don't like or don't vote for her no oh yeah that's new it's a new tactic its Trump land man its new stuff The other guy because the other guys gonna do X Y & Z or the other guy did such terrible things I'm going to show you in these flashing videos that appear and then disappear and they're on the dark web but nobody can find them Whoa, wait a minute! This is why whenever I see a popular sound bite or clip. I always go to the source because people always cut it off they miss the nuances of the good stuff. Did she just talk about videos that were flashy imagery you've never seen them then they disappear and then there on the dark web? What is that?!

05:00 And did that help Donald Trump win? I don't know what she's talking about. It was great! The other guy is going to do X, Y and Z or the other guy did such terrible things...I'm gonna show you in these flashing videos that appear and then disappear and they're on the dark web but nobody can find them but you're gonna see them and you're gonna see that person doing these horrible things They are also going to third party again And I'm not making any predictions, but I think they've got their eye on somebody who's currently in the Democratic primary and are grooming her to be the third party candidate. She's a favorite of the Russians. They have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far.

05:43 That's assuming Jill Stein will give it up, which she might not because she is also a Russian asset. She is a Russian asset totally and so they know they can't win without a third party candidate and I don't know who its going to be but I guarantee you that they'll have a vigorous third party challenge in the key states that most need So that prompted Tulsi Gabbard to get on the Twitters immediately and accuse Hillary Clinton of being the true source of evil against her. I knew you were hiding behind the curtain, come on out there Hillary! I knew you hated me even though she did not mention Tulsi by name...I think it was smart, Tulsi grabbed it right away and of course- Well, Tulsi found a word that

06:33 A Clinton associate was grilled by somebody and she made it clear it was about Tulsi, even though it was pretty clear. I do have a CBS report on this, by the way. CBS actually covered this as... Oh! Well they didn't have Tulsi on, I'll bet No, but here's the coverage. Gabbard is a spy. Now to an extraordinary development in the presidential campaign Hillary Clinton, the 2016 nominee called Tulsi Gabbard one of the current candidates quote The favorite of the Russians Nancy Cordes is following this Isn't that interesting? Just listen to the words that she uses there Of the current candidates

07:15 Hold on, hold on. Let's go back a second here. Hillary Clinton the 2016 nominee called Tulsi Gabbard one of the current candidates quote the favorite of the Russians No! She did not say Tulsi Gabbard is one of the favorite of the Russians that's a fucking lie CBS now it may be what she intended but that's bullshit she no one said Tulsi Gabbards name Nancy Cordes is following this and Nancy what are we to make about all this? Well, Nora, Hillary Clinton did not mention Tulsi Gabbard by name but an aide confirms that's who she was talking about when she made this stunning claim that the Russians had already hit on a way to meddle in the 2020 election much in the same way they meddled in her election in 2016. On a podcast interview, Clinton said quote, they're grooming her to be the third party candidate

08:08 She's the favorite of the Russians. They have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far Clinton was referring to the fact that the Hawaii congresswoman gets a lot of attention from Kremlin linked media just as Green Party candidate Jill Stein did back in 2016. This afternoon, Gabbard lashed back accusing Clinton of trying to destroy her reputation and calling Clinton quote, The queen of warmongers embodiment of corruption and personification of the rot that has An interesting omission that I think every report made was she said this on a podcast

09:04 No, she said that. Listen to what I'm saying! They didn't say David Plouffe's podcast they say a podcast yeah this is a problem of course because they don't want anyone to figure out how corrupt this is that it's Obama's guy who was doing the interview so now it's just a podcast. It's not about the...no I'm seeing as a meta they don't want to promote specific podcasts and people go listen to them now there's nothing make a point their Here's Tulsie's response on... Just before we leave that report, I should mention another little element that is going on besides the fact that Buttigieg just threw Tulsie under the bus. Bernie refuses to back her and all of the Tulsie fans—I don't know if it is in your stream of tweets but its' in there somewhere—apparently when Bernie was screwed over by Hillary

09:58 Tulsi came out in support of Bernie and made a big fuss about it And which I think is maybe part of the reason this is a payback from from Hillary for doing that, you know heaven forbid Mm-hmm But at the same time what people are irked about isn't that so much as the fact that Bernie refuses to back? Tulsa after he got helped. Well, I'm glad he's douchebag I'm glad you brought that up because I have a clip here from 2016 where It is exactly about this that Tulsi backed Bernie. What about any retaliation? The Clintons have had a well-oiled machine in Washington for years, do you fear any retribution from the Clintons and what's your relationship been like with them? Well I was heavily warned by people who care about me to not endorse Senator Sanders because of that fear of retaliation and look that fear is something

10:55 exists in a lot of folks that I've heard from. There is far too much at stake here to stand on the sideline and let politics get in the way of what's real, and what's real is war and the cost of war. I've seen and felt that cost firsthand through my service and my deployments to the Middle East And I cannot stand on the sidelines and do nothing. When we have a clear choice that many people are not informed about, there are very stark differences between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders and i'm going to do everything I can to make sure that people know what those differences are so they can at least make an educated and informed decision." And as you'll recall she resigned as vice chair of the DNC over this uh... over the corruption was going on during the primaries

11:44 Now we're in 2019, Tulsi can't get an interview anymore except probably true on the Kremlin-linked RT or the Kremlin linked Fox News. Let me tell you what this is about This is about Hillary Clinton sending a very strong message saying that because I am and have long been calling for an end to our country's foreign policy of waging one regime change war after the next, the likes which we've seen in Iraq and Libya and ongoing in Syria. And because I'm calling for an end to this new Cold War nuclear arms race that I am a Russian ass- She is very consistent, I'll tell you that. ...assetting that I am a traitor to the nation that I love

12:27 and not only are they saying that about me, they're basically sending this message out to every veteran in this country, every service member, every American anyone watching at home who is fighting for peace and who is calling for an end to these regime change wars. This new Cold War and arms race They are saying that you are also a Russian asset That you were also a traitor to this country That's really what happening here And the reason why she's doing this Ultimately, she knows that she can't control me. That I stand for...I stand against everything that she represents."

13:03 and that if I'm elected president, if I am the democratic nominee and elected president that she won't be able to control me. She won't be able to manipulate me. She won't be able to continue to work from behind the curtain to continue these regime change wars that have been so costly. Thousands of my brothers and sisters in uniform were killed in Iraq A war that she championed Their blood is on her hands I am calling for an end to these regime change wars. This is why she's speaking out strongly and smearing my character, and trying to undermine my campaign. And just as she is doing this to me this is what will happen to anybody who's doing the same." She could back off a little bit on My Blooded Brothers & Sisters? That seems to be the only message she has...

13:53 So she could do a little better than that, but I think politically it was the right thing to do. And yeah, I'm pretty sure Clinton meant her but this Russia thing... Hillary Clinton is still obsessed with this. I have just a couple more clips from this podcast, it was so mind-blowing to hear what she was saying because you know Putin he's still in the game with Trump We have to assume that since it worked for them why would they quit? Donald Trump is Vladimir Putin's dream He said that the biggest catastrophe I think in history was the collapse of the Soviet Union

14:30 As a former KGB guy, he is intent upon undermining democracies and trying to lay the groundwork for a resurgence of Russian greatness as he posits. And Donald Trump is delivering that to him on daily basis." I don't know why exactly. I don't know what Putin has on him, whether it's both personal and financial, I assume it is. But more than that there is this bizarre adulation Trump has for dictators and authoritarians. He dreams of being able to order people to do things and make them do it. He has no democratic instincts really

15:16 And I saw that when I was Secretary of State and traveled to 112 countries. One of our big problems... I like the slip in, I traveled 112 countries! Were people who got themselves elected and then became authoritarian and then did everything they could to rig elections, everything they could to make sure that they were never forced out of power. That is his game plan. That is what he's trying to achieve And it's terrifying to me because, you know, scholars like Professor Timothy Snyder who wrote that great little book on tyranny. They've told us... What is this great little book on tyranny?

15:51 Are you familiar with this? I don't know. Professor Timothy Snyder who wrote that great little book on tyranny, they've told us... If you're going to tackle tyranny just do it in a little book! There's like professor Timothy Snyder who wrote that great little book on tyranny They've told us what the game plan is but i still think people have a hard time believing that David It's like really oh come on You know that can't really be true and so part of what we have to do Alert the campaigns try to protect them work with people like Eric Holder and others who are going to protect The voter registration and the actual voting process Try raise the alarm about Breaches of our election systems. Try to stand up against the misinformation weaponization of information the propaganda Misinformation weaponization of information the propaganda that's a bumper sticker

16:46 But they're going to have unlimited money. I think the amount of money that the Trump campaign and the RNC is raising right now will be really hard to compete with, and it's not that money... She had twice as much money as Trump in the last election. Wouldn't that be hard to compete with? Listen to the end here... But they're gonna have unlimited money I think The amount of money that the Trump campaign and the RNC is raising right now Will be really hard to compete with, and it's not that money... And Russians Yeah, and the Russians It's not that money is everything but you do have enough You got to have enough money all right so

17:28 Now, I'm playing this a little bit out of order. One of the things that's mentioned in the past couple months is that the politicians certainly older demographic politicians still believe you can control people and give them message whatever it is and they will believe if you do all through television through media New York Times Washington Post USA Today LA Times put all in there Because that's how it used to work and we could just do a statement, hand over some talking points And then the talking heads would read it. Of course don't pay any attention to Operation Mockingbird There might have been some CIA assets controlling the news as well But that is a long time ago but these days are over and they in the same with the European Union these politicians still believe

18:17 that they can keep the order in the way they want it by truly using propaganda through mainstream media and of course, that's no longer true. This show is an example of that but when you hear it coming out of Hillary Clinton's mouth in the manner which she says it... It's mind-blowing! I'm just curious if you have a sense of how the media environment we're in right now may change things. I think you summed it up really well, I think we are in such an information overload world people can't figure out what's important? What's more important than something else? How do I make sense of this When we had three networks, a couple of major papers. The good old days and a lot of other papers so remember yes that might have been the New York Times the Washington Post but you had really good papers across the country from Boston and Baltimore to LA and it was wall-to-wall coverage you could not escape

19:14 You couldn't get distracted. You couldn't dive into your own social media feed, you couldn't go down a rabbit hole chasing conspiracy theories. It was the country's business being reported on and presented in a serious thoughtful way and we don't have that anymore. We have a really difficult environment to do politics in or to govern in legislate in and certainly conduct an impeachment inquiry And we have a single network that is a propaganda tool for not just the Trump administration, but the point of view. The kind of elitist fear mongering point of view that preceded him but has been amplified by him with Fox. So I think it's a lot harder for Americans to know what they're supposed to believe

20:07 You're doing it wrong Americans. You don't know what to believe you're believing What they're supposed to believe I know it's beautiful harder for Americans to know what their support Yeah, you are supposed to believe this which by the way is what I run into at the lib joes I did not make this thing. I didn't put the Lib Joe gag together this show unfortunately but When I read what they have to say constantly, it's always right along these same lines exactly the same. They're expressing what Americans are supposed to believe. Supposed to believe! Yeah, supposed to and even though

20:47 she of course doesn't want to portray that, the truth just came out there. You're supposed to believe this because that's what I say." "...by him with Fox so I think it's a lot harder for Americans to know what they're supposed to believe you know when Walter Cronkite got on your evening news and said you know I've been to Vietnam and they're not telling us the truth people went whoa! I can't believe it but Walter Cronkite is telling me that I remember in the impeachment work, I did in 1974 Sam Donaldson who was a very prominent correspondent. He would stalk us trying to get us to talk to say something but he had to physically stalk us you know? He didn't get to stalk us online you know? You had actually show up there come on!

21:33 Like we're doing now with her. We're stalking her online, of course! But he had to physically stalk us you know? He didn't get to stalk us online You know he had actually show up and say oh come on Hillary talk to us so it was a much more controllable environment And now I think we're living in the age of distraction and that benefits the less serious, the more anxiety producing or conspiracy minded people because they can plant so many seeds so cheaply and easily. They don't have to stand behind it.

22:11 biggest news purveyor in the world can say, oh no we're not interfering. It can be an absolute lie it can be Nancy Pelosi and a mashup of a deep fake but you know we're gonna let people decide. People can't decide because we are conditioned to believe what we see and what we hear when it is delivered to us in what looks like an official way and that's now we've got tens of thousands Yeah, so just so everybody understands Hillary Clinton thinks you're stupid. That's the message here You stupid idiot! You don't know what your supposed to believe because your being tricked you morons Morons

22:52 That's an extreme interpretation. I'm not saying it's not true, but what I get out of it is a little different...I get the impression that she actually is very knowledgeable She knows a lot! She has a lot of current knowledge. She has a lot of current knowledge of what's going on Don't forget she was the tech expert girl and she was the one with the internet in a bucket you know? Internet in a briefcase In a box box. And she's on the computer ship, you know there's lots of blackberry remember her at that hearing? She's always on her phone and she's like a teenager. She's on the phone all the time looking at stuff so she's not You know a slouch. She's not like a complete nude Nick in terms No, she sounds like someone who's been keeping up on everything to hop into the race That's what she sounds like he's ready. She's she sparked out wait

23:44 Let's just talk about the debates for a moment because last short clip here Because you know, of course the debates are You know The very hard when you have someone who's not playing by the rules like a Donald Trump and you know Did the debates really there's only one person? You can really blame when they go wrong But yourself to prepare for them. You still have to do you have to prepare for them if you think it's going to be a serious issue endeavor. Trump didn't compare, he prepared for them. He sat at his country club in New Jersey with Rudy Giuliani and a few people and they just traded insults you know like oh and then call her this and then I'll say that Because he understood that the press was still paralyzed. They were incapable of dealing with him, so call me names do whatever he would not pay a price for it and unfortunately whoever does the debates this next time is sure gonna have to be better than they were last time. For sure yeah for sure yeah for sure Hills yeah you really got robbed in the debates Bill for sure I gotta change that

24:46 Ah, they're fantastic. Please do more of these Hillary! Do more of these I love Hill the podcaster it's the best and the plan is apparently to bring it all back to Putin whether its Ukraine or anything because Nancy Pelosi is in lockstep? The Russians have been trying to get a foothold in the Middle East for very long time unsuccessfully and now the president has given them an opportunity with the Kurds reaching out. I know she's full of shit but just let's just listen to it, then we'll stop and deconstruct it because she says it over and over again. And now that President has given them an opportunity with the Kurds reaching out to them for support in Syria they have

25:48 The Russians were the beneficiaries of any withholding of assistance or encouragement to Ukraine. Again, Putin benefits." The Russians benefited, Putin did. And when the president could place some doubt about our commitment to NATO right from the start of his administration all roads lead to Putin Then President said well reason I'm taking the troops out of Syria is because I promised in the campaign To bring the troops home my question to him was if Saudi Arabia home? Is Saudi Arabia home Why are our troops going to Saudi Arabia if you promised to bring them home? He said well the Saudi Arabians are paying for it Really, we're putting our troops in harm's way for Saudi Arabia because they're yes It just didn't add up But what it did do was cause a meltdown on the part of the president because he was unhappy with that Those questions. No, let's let's go back to the beginning Let's go back to the beginning

26:49 All of a sudden this is all roads lead to Putin. Oh, yeah Putin's always wanted to have a hold in the Middle East like the deepwater port he's had in Syria for thirty five years And they used to be number one buddy with the Iranians. They still medal, they've been in the middle... They had a foothold in the Middle East for a long time what's new? This is new this is new. In fact what was new was that they kind of gave up their foothold a little bit and let us come in there and screw things up when we use metal they wouldn't have put out with that in the past. And our NATO ally in Turkey decided to go not with our fabulous

27:30 Weaponry, but with the Russian s400s so good. You know that they'll be incoming you know if there was a If there was a scheme afoot yeah It would seem to be that I'm reminded of how the u.s Was suckered? Suckered into falling in line with the given day taken over where their French left off in Vietnam and The French, oh you know we need some help. Oh it's on? Bye! We're out of here you guys can handle it." We were totally suckered by the French to take over the Vietnam War and the war we lost no matter what our... You can't cut it any other way is

28:14 I think if there's any way of suckering both Turkey and Russia into taking over this mess in the Middle East which has done us no good whatsoever, unless someone can say well it's done us some good because of this. I don't see any good that's come out of our being in the Middle East. So if we can sucker the Russians and the Turks to take over and fight these idiots out there, in endless wars...I'm all for it! I do not understand why anybody is against this? It makes no sense to me." Now I think she has a superficial point about military in Saudi Arabia saying well they're paying for it

28:54 Isn't that exactly what NATO is even though they're not NATO, but don't we do this all the time? People put money into the pot and we go stand around and protect their interests. So it's not much different from a NATO situation. And secondarily I mean the only reason I think it would make sense to have some presence there is to protect the price of oil That's American interest. Yeah, that's totally... I mean i'm not happy with it at all but I can justify among all the other bullcrap we do with our military but yeah wow yes that's just rewriting history right there rewriting history. Wanted to get her presence what a bunch of malarkey this woman is full of crap now let's talk about her face for a moment

29:46 The amount of work, now because I... Only on the No Agenda show. The amount of work she has had done is astronomical! Apparently she's had so much work done that someplace in a closet there's another Nancy Pelosi name from her parts. See now you're just being nasty but considering her age it is unbelievable the work that's done and The, um... It's great for appearances. I mean just look at her and if she has the right lighting and the right camera angle She doesn't look a day over 65! What is she now? 80- Is she in her eighties? I think? I think she's 97? No no no

30:30 I think she's, let's take a look. I believe she is 79. I think she's 70-79. Yeah almost 80. But that could be it could also be She might have tacked on if you pull back a few years and over the overtime Oh yeah no she totally has the full Monty going back behind the ears And they cut right along the line it I know this because of my first wife I'm very skilled in seeing what's going on there And I would say if you have money, there's hope. Women are always complaining about it because they get a raw deal. Men start to look more distinguished...they will tell you and women lose everything they will tell you but if you have money then there ya go! Not bad

31:13 All right, where do we go from here? Do you want to go to the impeachment task force or what is it I don't have any. I believe iIdon't have much in the way of a couple of screwy things. I got a lot of screwball clips today um I don't know that I have any impeachment work. I would rather actually maybe get out of the way would be the Brexit situation which is really that's to me as amped up yeah I'm ready for that Well, I've got a couple of clips. I got to vote this vote which i thought was really good because it includes an ISO. This is the parliament vote to stall Brexit just a regular vote but its dramatic. The eyes for the right 322. The nose to the left

32:11 306. The ayes to the right, 322! The noes to the left, 306! So the ayes have it, the ayes have it! Unlock I presume the ISO is... Good one. So we said Johnson's not going to get the job done and he may pull this defense of, well you know, no bullcrap Boris Johnson! He never intended to get it done The guys a shill. He is not on anyone's good side over theirs

32:58 Well, I have three clips from PBS actually did a good rundown. Believe it or not and I have is a three parter and this is it breaks it down in how it works but they do something in clip to the point out before we play but start with Brexit report one will they stay or will they go? The fate of Brexit plan to exit the European Union remains unknown today. An extraordinary Saturday session of Parliament ended with a vote that delays the decision on Prime Minister Boris Johnson's recent negotiated agreement with the EU. No one anywhere in this chamber believes in lowering standards. Instead, instead... Johnson presented the new plan to a bitterly divided House of Commons today hoping for an end two years of debate And now is the time for this great House of Commons

33:54 to come together and bring the country together today. Leaders of the Labour and Scottish National Parties called the deal even worse than when Johnson's predecessor, Theresa May tried and failed to negotiate Mr Speaker, I also totally understand the frustration and the fatigue across the country and in this House. But we simply cannot vote for a deal that is even worse than one the House rejected three times. This Tory government has sold Scotland out and once again they have let Scotland down

34:30 In the end, there was no vote on the overall Brexit deal. Only a vote to pass an amendment that is supposed to slow down the process Outside Parliament hundreds of thousands of protesters filled the streets many of them calling for a second national referendum on Brexit and a chance to keep Britain in the European Union Daaaaaah! We called every single piece of this worse than Theresa May's deal do over of the vote Now there's something that is interesting they've used, there is a propagandistic term that just showed up and it's called... I have never heard of before but they keep saying it. It says if... It's a negative term used for purposes of demeaning the Brexiteers and its called crashing out Right! Crashing out means we go without deal No deal Brexit correct? Why don't you just say that

35:27 We went without a deal. We're leaving the EU without a deal." That seems different to me than the violent term, crashing out! Well of course it's... Yes we're crashing out oh no! Yeah if you like well yes that yes you are correct this is completely propagandistic and it is intended as such It works because they keep using it on PBS. What does PBS got to do with it? They use the word... Oh, okay so PBS is using this now in their own lexicon? I mean its in the report and I just started noticing it and so I just put it in here but this part too We need to have another say we need to say what's on our minds So many people have changed their minds

36:04 This is Britain today, this is the UK today. We need to be asked again if this really what you want? Frank Lanfitt is a correspondent for NPR and author of the recent book The Shanghai Free Taxi he joins me now from London What exactly did Parliament vote on this morning? Well, Boris Johnson the Prime Minister wanted them to vote on his Brexit withdrawal agreement that would take the country out ideally from his perspective and from the deadline at the end of this month. But instead lawmakers in the parliament had a different idea They're concerned that they can't get all the legislation finished in time, and they were afraid that the United Kingdom could inadvertently crash out of the EU with no deal at all causing a lot economic damage. So what they said is they've passed amendments saying we will approve this only once all the legislation has gotten done so this has actually delayed the vote. Who was responsible for setting up for orchestrating the possibility of a delay?

36:58 Well, there were a number of lawmakers who are very concerned about crashing out of the EU. And also I got to be honest, there's a lot of distrust of Boris Johnson. You remember last month he suspended Parliament here with the Supreme Court of the United Kingdom slapped him down and said you broke the law And so there was concern that either through accident or perhaps deliberately some Brexiteers might try to foil things, basically mess up the legislation so that the country crashed out. So people even people who want to vote for this deal were very worried and so they backed the amendment compelling him to ask for an extension from Brussels. Oh what you're hearing okay this now I understand it what's your hearing here is

37:37 is an embedded reporter who has been assimilated. He's been sucked into everything, including using the term crashing out which I think actually shows his bias Oh, he's incredibly biased. You can tell the whole thought by his report He's against the idea of crashing out and He hates Johnson a fact they asked him about this and these was there was real problem here bought Johnson So he is yeah, he's been assimilated by the by the Borg And he said if you and resistance is futile so let's go with that part three what must Boris Johnson do legally now I

38:22 Legally, he is supposed to write a letter tonight to Brussels asking for an extension. He says he won't do it. He just refuses to and the reason is that all along he said that he would rather die in a ditch than go back to Brussels and promise to get the country out because of course it's been almost three-and-a-half years since the 2016 Brexit vote so he's adamant he won't do it What are the true sticking points? The true sticking point I think here really is Did you see the whole video of this because this is edited by a 12 year old? Worse. With questions like... Go ahead Well, it's scripted to the max

39:02 And the woman who's doing it, this is The Weeknd report because this all happened yesterday. So we have The Weeknd correspondent and apparently Shreem Nassar, the good guy that does the weekend PBS show wasn't working yesterday so they brought in this woman who I've never seen before And she is, maybe she was brought in for a purpose so she could work with this guy who's the crash out guy. You can hear the inserts just what was that part happened here? By the way... That was very poorly edited but it was scripted to the max and she's reading from the script and it's not a free-flowing conversation in any way What are the true sticking points

39:46 The true sticking point I think here really is the distrust of Barney. Just to fuck over this, it sounds like she's in the editing bay talking into the microphone in the desk It's like oh we need a question here okay What are the two points that differ? And he won't do it What are the true sticking points? The true sticking point I think here really is, is the distrust of Boris Johnson and the fact that this timetable is so tight. This one of the biggest decisions made by the UK government in many decades and they don't want to make a mistake and they don't want to miss something The Hill is reporting that the US Chamber of Commerce is calling for the deadline for Brexit to be extended, which leads me to wonder what's been the economic impact of all these delays? Wait a minute. Why'd you ring your bell over? I missed it...

40:32 What is the US Chamber of Commerce have to do with this? economic impact of all of these delays. Boris Johnson's deal. So they actually were switching sides, so from a business perspective I think that this uncertainty has cost a lot. What do average people think at this point?

41:20 They're exhausted. What you hear a lot from people is get Brexit done. Nobody thought, certainly when this was sold to people the Brexiteers said this would be easy it's been anything but and I think there's a tremendous amount of Brexit fatigue even some people who voted to remain would like to see this done i hear even from some young people So I think people are very tired of it It's very interesting You talk to people and they'll say Even if there is short term economic damage I just want the country to move on. It's very striking that said thousands were out today saying we need a new referendum in this country, the deal that Boris Johnson has is not at all what we voted for 2016 so the country also remains very divided. Do over! My goodness how often did we're going to have to go over this again and again and again predicting since day one to do over yeah for three-and-a-half years the two of us yep

42:13 And it still keeps coming into the conversation and they just, they won't pull the trigger. They're gonna have to do it! The do-over is coming... Of course it's coming that's the only way that they can keep them in there because that's the whole point this and I never want to hear another British person ever say anything about our politics in America okay? Yeah that's a good point Is the US Chamber of Commerce by the way, which is always at loggerheads with Trump is a globalist organization? Nothing to do with the normal chamber of commerce course Of course as well. Also we have other issues regarding brexit and when I had this clip here speaking of Globalists yeah, this is you know Fifi Lagarde left the IMF and went to the

43:04 European Central Bank to steal the money from everybody and her replacement is not as fun. Kristalina... let me see, Kristalina Dyorgieva I'm not quite sure where she's from but the work we're crashing out the whole economy of the whole world is crashing out Brexit Trump global economy is now in a synchronized slowdown synchronize to slow down fractures driven by trade driven by uncertainty surrounding geopolitical tensions and brexit

43:50 They're held holding back growth and they are causing hazards in this shared road We are traveling calm. They're slowing us down I think she's trying to do a version of Dave Chappelle's alphabet people in the car But it's not coming out right because we on the road to groat and slowing us down Yeah, that's her only message. It's just slowing us down. Okay. Really? Yeah. Gotta blame something. Hey there was a story that was breaking! Breaking! Breaking! And I wanted to ask you about it...

44:34 California has passed a law that goes into effect January 1st 2020 and it is the gig I would call it the the gig Gig economy flaw although. It's actually, California Assembly Bill 5 yeah, and it's meant to help define what gig workers are further fine-tuning of a labor law. Right, and if they can be treated as independent contractors or if there's some

45:16 reason that they should actually be full-time employees with benefits etc and while they were doing this, and of course a lot of negotiation goes into it out of it came a ruling regarding freelance journalists in California. Oh yeah! I missed. Check it out I'll read this verbatim so i don't mess it up. The passage of Assembly Bill 5 offers some relief, freelance writers editors photographers and editorial cartoonists were given a partial carve-out allowing publishers to hire them for up to 35 separate content submissions in the given year So because journalistic publications their core business is journalism

46:07 They are curtailed and cannot just hire temporary work contractors continuously Although because it's their core business So they have to hire full-time people unlike an uber whose real business is booking not driving. That's the gambit they use there so now in the law freelance journalists may only submit 35 content submissions in a given year to a, and they have a term here, to the... what was it? A putative organization. Putative? Yeah, putative What's putative mean? Putative is I looked it up actually, I'm glad you asked me that

47:03 Let me open this up. I think it's the... if you describe someone or something as putative, you mean that they are generally thought of to be the thing mentioned so i think what they're trying to say is The organization So if I'm writing for BuzzFeed, I can only work for them for 35 stories a year which of course is going to put A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE POORHOUSE! They're doing 35 a week I'm just clickbait shit. All of them, not some of them! All of them. And the way they came up with a number is it said well They felt that a freelancer is like a columnist... this is how nuts It is so a weekly columnist would submit you know roughly 25 Columns per year. No? 52, I'm sorry 50-52 they cut that in half and

47:55 There was pushback so they took it from the 25 or 26 and they bumped it up to 35. That's how they just, its arbitrary! But now every... I'm reading here from The Hollywood Reporter headline Everybody is freaking out! And this going to kill..I am happy with it because it's going to kill these stupid ass websites And people are getting 25 bucks for a column or for a submission as they call it to the putative employer. Yeah, then they do three a day to get 75 bucks. But that'll count as one-tenth of your annual budget! You can only do this for 10 and half days and you're done. And there's...you should talk to the LibJos about this.

48:43 There's a clarity is needed on what the putative organization is. Is it the holding company that owns multiple publications? Is it just each individual? Oh, yeah! Is it each individual publication so if you work for Condé Nast can only be 35 for all of Condé Nast or can it be 35 for each of their publications So that's why the word putative becomes important but I don't know how its gonna work legally But I thought that was... and it's also, isn't that in a way freedom of press? A freedom like a first amendment issue. Oh yes! Now as you mention it yeah It's unconstitutional. I mean they're literally stopping- It's the law abridging the freedom of press Yeah That's California Uber alice Well California uber alice has always been unconstitutional but yeah that's unconstitutional now to mention it. I think it's great

49:40 And while we're on that, we might as well talk about Trump's lawyers. They sent an email to CNN? Did you see this thing? Yes! This was another great distraction of the week. Well what I found interesting is essentially... See there the law they're citing is the Lanham Act which I happen to know a lot about Yeah, well you should because it's about trademarks and copyrights. Well and false advertising I was sued on the Lanham Act when MTV wanted mtv.com And of course both the parties settled out of court neither party has any further comment

50:25 But the Lanham Act is also for false advertising, and that's what I found funny. It's completely misinterpreted by Twitter and the retards everywhere else—I'm sorry, can't call anything else but that—who are just like, "'For calling him bad names he's upset'—no." The Lanham Act says if you say you're unbiased and you provide fair and balanced news that's false advertising, if you're not... And of course they cite the Project Veritas and all of that. It'll go nowhere but I thought it was interesting that its only sent towards CNN because right there in the title Fair & Balanced Fox News You can take them down for too! If we are really going to apply the Lanham Act then let's do it

51:10 It's just you know I it always bothers me when people Misinterpret these things that are done. It becomes truth. No, I guess that's a life Well, I got into one at one one go around with the Twitter Twitter I said I told Atlanta Mac this is about the land of Mac This is if anyone thinks this going anywhere and want to wants to argue about it count me out Yeah exactly Exactly, this stupid It's stupid but it is so funny. You know, Scott Adams had...

51:46 I have to say, I don't particularly like clipping him. You have to clip him hard because he's got a lot of pauses but he came out with some funny stuff on his Periscope show which by the way and he has got a new book out which i'm supposed to get a copy of. He has it How Not To Be A Loser or something like that? And finally decided after watching him do this, it just dawned on me When I interviewed him, he was already talking about a loss in income on Dilbert but it's not necessarily because people hate him or Dilbert. His market is dying for the cartoon businesses... He's the last of the Mohicans

52:32 You're selling these panels. Because the newspapers, they're kicking... Half of them already kicked out and fired their editorial cartoonists! They can't afford it period. They can't afford anything and this syndicated stuff they can kind of afford but they're gonna probably cut This is like I hate to keep telling these stories Why? We love your stories don't hate telling them It's good Doesn't mean i like telling em But so I'm at Tech TV Considered different profession And you've noticed, you probably seen this too. They had to do some cutbacks so the first thing they started cutting back is a free... First it was free milk that we used to have. It's always the coffee, the food, the craft service table. The second thing they went with was the makeup artist! No no before makeup parking goes- We literally saw that at Meveo What are you talking about? We had parking! No we never had parking At Mevio we did I said at Mevio

53:27 Don't you remember I protected your coveted spots. It was hardly enough parking to count. I protected your spot, man Yeah, I did have a spot Next is makeup and then it's the lighting director of course that's how it goes yeah The makeup go well the way when at tech TV was first the milk and coffee And then it was the makeup artist which was Ridiculous because as the makeup artists I think To any makeup artists out there, and you would know this in particular. The makeup artist is maybe the most important person or persons at any TV operation. And let me explain why people may not realize this. The makeup room and the makeup staff—and these are artists

54:14 are also psychologists. They are the ones that will sit there, will know the shit that's going on in your life, will talk to you about it, will make you feel calm... Would you like another cup of tea? A cup of coffee? Oh yeah and while they're making you look good they will completely build up your ego and it is a fundamental part certainly of any live television but any television in general Makeup is where the peace and the calm is put into the guests and the hosts. Would you agree? I would agree with that but it also in most situations on television people don't realize that many of them Incredibly attractive women are at base ugly ducklings And they could use a couple hours, and they'll take it two hours in the makeup chair They come out Miss America, and that's very important for the image of the network

55:09 Do it yourself. Having some of these women do their own makeup is a nightmare! Yeah, and then also television makeup is very different It's a very different animal and of course after they get rid of the makeup department then they get rid of the fluffers I mean, it's just downhill from there Well in this case that got rid of wardrobe And that which is another thing so people had to start dressing themselves, and this is not gonna work Yeah But but they this is the kind of thing that goes on. I don't know how he got off the track That's why why didn't want to talk about it? I like it and I was just thinking in my own MTV story when I I'll just take the ball and run with it When I arrived at MTV in the late 80s They had no makeup department No wardrobe

55:54 And the lighting guy came in once a week. He said stand here, he'd knock the thing around with his stick, bop-a-da-bop-ba-da-bop. He said good okay just this is your mark you put a little AC next to it so I knew it was my mark they had no hair makeup or wardrobe whatsoever and it was...I mean they were able to hire me and bring me over from Europe! This was going operation it was Mickey Mouse Yes sounds mickey mouse but back to what i think the point was is that scott adams has seen the writing on the wall. And he knows it's a dying industry and his cartoons are, you know. So I think he makes the bulk of his money now on books about the cartoons and these expositions. He has done like three books in the last couple years that are always best sellers. He has got a good name for himself. Then he does this Periscope thing which is a promotional tour for the book. Question for you? Yeah

56:50 What kind of money do you think an author? Like Scott Adams makes off of a book million bucks. Damn, that's pretty good Yeah, that's pretty good Okay, at least have something to strive towards. Yeah, he make it well He's got a name and he's got the distribution he's and he does big publishers They do big deals and he's probably he maybe I could probably be laughing if he's listening to this He doesn't listen to this show but he could be laughing or Pluto Does you know? He could be making two million three million. I don't know what I could be like 200,000 He's making a million at least okay man. Well you would know oh

57:28 And so he does this periscoping, and some of it's pretty funny. But he did one the other day about predicting that whatever happens when Trump pulls out is that you're gonna hear about a hospital bombing and using chemical weapons Good, so he does listen to our show is what you're saying. Well He says this is the case with all these boy He says it doesn't matter whether that happens or not But you're always gonna hear about it, but he did a kind of an this would be something I'm always You do it? You still do it. I still do it It's kind of a problem which is the being sarcastic and

58:04 on the internet or even especially online because it could you just can be quoted out of context. But he went on a, I got this clip here Scott Adams on McRaven so in McRaven the general and then Mad Dog Madison McRaven this real douchebag admiral from the Clinton administration Obama buddy Both of them Clinton supporters. They went after the president, which I think was very unprofessional for professional military men to do this because he's the commander in chief but they did it anyway and McRaven was really... And it was always about Syria

58:42 screwed up Syria and then Hillary's all in on this. Oh, Syria is Syria we gotta be in Syria even though we weren't in Syria as you proved two shows ago when you played all these old clips." No boots on the ground! No boots on the ground advise an assist roll We're not fighting anything no-no-no-no-no So Adams goes off in a very sarcastic funny kind of a sarcastic rant which I thought would be worth playing because it's amusing But again, it's sarcastic. So I can imagine people listening to this and agreeing with him instead of realizing he is being incredibly sarcastic but I thought it was clippable. According to Admiral McRaven, this president has damaged our standing with other leaders

59:24 and our credibility so much so that how can we depend on them in the future? For example, let's say we got into a big war. Do you think we could depend on Greece coming to our rescue? No! Greece would look at the situation and say well look what they did to the Kurds We're not coming to help them militarily How are we going to win a war without the Greeks I don't see how What if What if, let's say Russia sends a nuclear weapon our way and starts a nuclear war? We're not going to have the Kurds on our side. So how are we going to defend against a thermonuclear war with Russia if we have no Kurds at all like not even one Kurd is going to help us what are we gonna do well I would say we're in pretty bad shape in that case so

1:00:19 Admiral McRaven has got a good point here. Who is ever going to help the United States? Who, who is going to help us because before this you can see that other countries were forming a line to give us money and military aid and my god other countries wanted to help the United States so much that we almost couldn't handle all of the help they were giving Yes, I recall the Freedom Fries vividly. That is very dangerous for him to do because when he does that he sounds very serious out of context. No, he sounds like you're serious and he himself knows that he's quoted it. I think Jordan Peterson made a popularized it that...I don't know if the numbers this high but

1:01:13 25% of people out there have no sense of humor right now. They don't get anything and That means twenty five percent of the people listening to him are going all yeah, that's true It's funny we saw Scott Adams last night We went to Dracula the play here in Austin Yeah, yeah And so Tina I were sitting there just before it started people coming in Scott Adams. We saw meatloaf Lizzo even Stephen Hawkins is a good Austin's happening What it might not have been them, but man they look like him oh Just saying Scott Adams has a lot of doppelgangers out there. Yeah Anyway so he's working at and I think he's He's just he's a smart guy that can make money So well he you know he's got to

1:02:09 Make a lot to maintain his lifestyle I think or at least, I mean he spends a lot of money puts money into real estate and all kinds of deals And you know I think in restaurants. I personally think He's out of the restaurant game completely well. I think he's prone to being soaked if he doesn't watch out Soaked so he's got these gotta be careful gotta be careful here Well, I'm glad you did that and that was a good report and with that I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in crashing out John C. Adamorak! Well in the morning to you Mr. Adam Curry also in the morning all those feet's on the ground

1:02:51 Feats in the air, subs in the water, boots on the ground and dames and knights out there. Close enough! In the morning to the trolls in the troll room who are ITMing away as we speak at this noagendastream.com where you were welcome this morning if you checked in by live pre-stream from Darren O There's always some kind of live stream happening on just before the no agenda show on Sunday I think DJ Steven will be taking over the airwaves That should be fun to listen too And it's a great place to go and troll other people, troll the hosts of the show, troll people live Just throw some stuff out there Ask people what the price of Bitcoin is Get an invite to No Agenda Social or just hang out with people who generally aren't triggered

1:03:35 and no agenda stream calm then I would also like to say in the morning too let me get it here yes well it is the same Darren O'Neill I was just talking about Darren O'Neill who brought us the artwork for episode 1182 John pretty this Forgot we had a jingle for it. Yes, let's critique the show art at no agenda art generator calm It's a segment now you see it's a whole segment Now we had a hard time once again That's kind of acute voice over voice and forgetting who did that? I don't know who did Oh Tom Starkweather's

1:04:22 Partner I think oh well. She's got it. She's got a dynamite voice. You should do some work she does know she does some mixing to she does some of the mixes end-of-show mixes, so what we had We had a number of we're all gonna die. We had some looks we had the Queen as a lizard we had LeBron with a money basketball and Chinese flags Pete Buddha jesset Pete Buddha judges head in a pile of poop But the one we chose was the breakup with big tech based upon

1:05:00 Guess my quotable since I've seen it pop up here and there Let's not break up big tech but breakup with big tech, and it was well done. It was a good line Thank you There were actually two pieces in this in the series that had to break up with Big Tech I think there wasn't yeah The one where this one where they do whether the comic strip blogger had a big tech falling off a cliff right? Right which wasn't Just didn't hit home for us. The one that we kind of both liked but we didn't choose it, another Daron O piece by the way because we figured that people wouldn't get the joke And it was an ABC News Live from Syria shot, and it's clearly the Alamo. We discussed this particular piece because I liked it the most but then I relented because as we discussed it and then I came to the realization is that today's generations and many people listen to this show are just generally Americans don't know what the Alamo is and they would never recognize if they saw it exactly and that's what it was, the Alamo

1:06:04 And I don't think anyone would get the joke. No, no that was what we discussed and so we agreed that now they probably wouldn't...I mean I know the Alamo of course and I'm confronted with the image more frequently than most. Have you been to the Alamo? I have yeah it's pretty small. It is very small like somebody big house. Like this is a tiny home version of the Alamo! I had a different idea in mind. Yeah. Do you know who When I was there his artwork was on display. Do you know who is a huge collector of? Texas art in particular Alamo related art no Phil Collins Wow that's odd Yeah, he has a whole collection or sue sue studio guy yeah, yeah one more well the Genesis guy Yeah, Phil Phil Collins will know Phil Phil Phil hates me

1:06:56 He hates you. Yeah, there was a period in the 80s where we would always be bumping into each other I'd have to interview him if it wasn't you know at some at Wembley Stadium for some kind of You know one of those benefit shows he would be in my studio and then a certain point just say Oh curry too tall too much hair hate you and he would walk away Huh? Yeah It was loving it was love. I think I think it was love a form of love yeah, it was in the air tonight She got his autograph we have a system here on this podcast which you know we don't get it leads to drop by we don't have corporate money. We are sponsors when i remember of like podcast one network that would get us money now,

1:07:47 What we've done is our money or we have determined that? We also do not have an audience. We don't we just don't have it the modern way of radio Let's just call it that is you have producers your entire Audience is a group of producers and they help you create and produce the show in many different ways Obviously lights have to stay on server bills have to be paid food needs to be purchased And that's why we have producers who Support us financially and just off the bat. I always do it in the second segment, but I want to thank everybody who does a regular subscription donation, a sustaining donation that some of its $4 a month some of its five dollars a week some of its per show we have 1111's We have fun numbers 3333 1212

1:08:37 Thank you so much. It can't be said enough because there is at least a base of support there It's not enough to continue the show on but it being there always Makes me smile cuz I do see the entire list each and every show and I just want to take a moment to thank those people for always being there for us and For today's show we have a couple of executive producers and associate executive producers, and we're going to thank them as well right now We are the clockless CPU of podcasting. The clock, the clockless CPU? Yeah This must be a reference I don't understand No, but I don't think anybody... there's...I guarantee there's five people out there that get that joke Alright But okay! Alright Onward with the uh Thanks Okay Yeah, I'll tell you this story The clockwise CPU was kind of a holy grail

1:09:37 of processors that was discussed for a decade or more and is still bandied about as something no one can do it. So, so it's just...it has no limitations? It just goes as fast as it can? It goes faster and slower than it can. There's not clock. Right. It just does its thing But it can't be, apparently with most of the electronics world you need a clock. You need something that's fixed. We are the clockless, we don't have...we're like the Holy Grail of podcasts. We're not in a network, we're not in all this bull crap. The union! There was a good one. We don't work for The New York Times, we don't have advertisers.

1:10:24 But we do have these people and we're going to thank each and every one of them right now. The executive and associate executive producers for show 1183, starting with David Boswell who came in with 500 bucks And he says one thing only you both do important work! That's it? Beautiful Thank You very much He's followed by Sir, yeah thank you David. He's followed by Sir Gregory Worley Baron of South Mountain Lake Virginia with $396 which is also known as the porcupine engine if your a Chevy collector. Happy anniversary, $33 for each year so I look forward to each and every show thank you so much for everything you guys and everyone that supports the show thank you all

1:11:12 Sir Greg Worley and that's this is another thank you. Thank you, thank you very much for Gregory Yes Douglas Garcia three four five six seven no jingles No Karma three in a row. Thank you for the years of information and entertainment boom Boom roll Three in a row well, thank You Douglas Garcia And those are our executive producers, so they all are princes. They're not writing War and Peace. So let's shift gears... Darren O'Neill comes in! There he is! Speak of the devil this is The Darren! The Darren O'Neil from the artwork! Darren O'Neil from the pre-stream! Does Darren O'Neil have any kind of existence outside of our show? I don't know that he's not a knight Anyway 2 5 6 7 8 yeah No He doesn't

1:12:08 Now he's still going for the trifecta. We don't even know if he is real, he may just be an AI or something. Oh it could be that cartoon character who draws himself. Yeah? Could be. 25675 which has some meaning I'm sure. Hello John and Adam! The No Agenda University sweatshirts generated a few sales as part of this donation. That's right, he did the No Agenda sweatshirts. Oh yeah that's right. No Agenda University. Gorgeous. Is this the No Agenda logo on his sweatshirt with university? And this part of the donation is part of the profits he's giving us. I have relisted that items and will be adding some more using other artwork I've done in the near future. The items will be available at noagendastore.com, I hope that John received the hoodie I sent him yes I did and is prominently displayed

1:12:59 I also added some cash that I recently received unexpectedly to bring the total of three to 25675. Health karma update, my dad's hip surgery back in the early July went well. He's been progressing nicely since and is being able to work or able to walk with just a cane no agenda health karma works can i please get the Dvorak curry marketing treatment for my podcast grumpy old Benz He does it with Ryan Bemrose. Sir Ryan Bemrose? Sir Ryan Bemrose, yes sorry It's a tech guys take on the world so basically we stole the idea of Cranky Geeks removed the knowledgeable host from the mix and added two unhinged hosts instead I'd say winning format! Sounds good to me The Andre is better than most of these things are there's so many tech podcasts Why don't you do a tech podcast?!

1:13:57 Why should I do a tech podcast? The end result is magical. We are just two old guys yelling at the cloud, and neither one of you are that old. Grumpyoldbends.com Thank you for all... yeah grumpyoldbends.com Don't we have it in the rotation? I'm not sure. Yeah, Grumpy Old Bends runs all the time after the show on the NOAA Jinda stream. Oh absolutely! It's like they did it live, I think. Okay let me finish this but then I want to say something about the stream. Thank you for all you do to keep us sane it's appreciated in the morning Darren and I think we should do on our show too so I'm listening to this stream and I decide I'm gonna listen to what baby

1:14:39 Maybe should be bumped, but I'm listening and so and I've been hearing this one guy He's going on and on and on is a very one. He's the one guys there single guy Yeah, get get get get and he talks about he's got some good stuff. Mm-hmm conspiracy kind of stuff which most of these podcasts seem to be And there's other podcasts they come in they go and then as a woman with another guy and they're yakking about something Nobody, they go for hours and nobody ever does it you're listening to. And I think streamers we don't have to make it mandatory but I think that we should do it ourselves that just at the beginning like maybe at the end of this donation segment or something at least twice in three hours

1:15:26 We should have a canned, it has to be canned because it has the sound canned. Okay... A promo? You're listening to The No Agenda Show Well we have those that run in between the shows, we have plenty of those sweepers Yeah but thats no good Oh just one promoting our own show on our show Not our show! The show thats being broadcast But I understand you said we should do it too On our show. Yeah, you said on our shows You're listening to the no agenda show Yes Okay yeah It's called the station ID

1:16:02 It would be the equivalent of a station ID. There's no station involved, but it would be the equivalent. And I would like the podcasters that... Maybe you could do them all? Yeah because I need more to-do! Yes send it my way John! Literally this morning forwarded you an email if someone said, ''I was too lazy to look up John's email please forwarded it to him'' Like I'm your biatch Yes, so okay No man may I make a suggestion the suggestion is as follows we need Coming from a background of doing this. Why don't we get the voice that? I just played

1:16:44 Which was the... here, the show art voice. Here we go. Adam and John critique the show art. Why don't we have that voice go? You're listening to The Noah Genius! Yeah and then have her do that for every single show Then we have what we call station color And it's female which is good these days for social justice warriors Oh yeah So I think it would be dynamite and we should be done for all the shows that are on and I'm on it. I'm making it happen as we speak Because it was bothersome. I'm listening, but you don't know what you're listening to! I can't just listen for 24 hours and so waiting for whatever the show ends and then even when the show ends is kind of sketchy what this show was called Yeah, you don't know what it was But there's lots of sweepers and promos in between the shows that works very well And you have Void and Bemrose and all those guys have that set up beautifully

1:17:41 But I agree just doing that if you're part of the Noah Jenner stream throw it we'll do it too. We'll just yeah, okay So Tom Stark weather now has work with his partner excellent. Yeah, we need a couple of takes not just Yes yes mr.. Executive producer I'm gonna give Darren's thinking about I'm gonna give Darren O'Neill a goat scream karma cuz I'd feel like giving it to me There we go. Thanks, Daron O. you know, and they're predicting. They need, and they say well let's just do a whole season this worked fine when you had Kevin Spacey as you know a superstar producer director actor now out on the outs dude he started it off with The House of Cards they did the whole season at once without having to worry about it but in network television even when they only had three channels they would run a series and they'd kill it after two shows

1:18:42 One is plenty of broadway shows that were killed after the first night and say that dracula should be killed off until. Well anyway they would kill the show's this because there were suits i think the suits are important now that i started to, think of like one suits the guys who said this show stinks Yeah, it is important to have some kind of suit somewhere. Wait until you see this there's a couple of new things on Amazon they're just the worst! Now we watched something good last night... A couple episodes of Modern Love Ah that's the worst I think it's actually incredibly good I consider it the most racist thing I've ever seen let's go and look at modern love from a distance Hold on hold on what do you mean racist?

1:19:28 You're thinking about something else. This is adaptations of the New York Times column, Modern Love? For one thing a New York Times co-producer so they're the kind of this suit there okay it's not racist name one woman of color in the entire series What shit do I give about that it's a good series why who cares if its racist The first show this woman she's every guy she goes out with is a white guy who was a douchebag And then she says, she said something about the black guy because he's not a douchebag. Black men are not douchebags and white guys are all douchebags! You don't see this? I took it very differently. No, I did not... She was by... she had no

1:20:09 No partner and the doorman was her real friend. Come on, alright whatever. You don't think the line I wasn't looking in their eyes Natasha? I was seeing in your eyes whether you like them! What's wrong with that?! It made me throw up! Wow...you are a stone cold bastard Oh, it's a great series. Oh yeah! I'm sure that you have the room lit with candles. Let me just answer me that question. No! The room was lit with candles

1:20:50 Wow, I mean. I'm pretty open to seeing weird stuff in show...I saw nothing but just lovely stories that i really enjoyed and now I feel...I almost feel dirty for liking it because I am being shamed for being a racist! Move on please! Damn The one good review I saw, some guy gave it one star. He says, I just wasted... he said watch the three episodes and wasted an hour-and-a-half of my life. Alright onward to our donors who are more important than that horrible show. Anne's... the racist show by the way. Anne Spillers is in... she's up on deck and she did send a note... Wait wait wait where are you? Where are you?

1:21:38 Where Joel Nelson, I don't know what you're doing. Oh oh oh! Who is that? For some reason I saw Ann Spillers okay Joel Nelson is in Richfield Minnesota 247 bucks hey Joel. And he has a note. Oh no I saw it was the JCD had note and I know Spillers had to know but I didn't see this Joel Nelson notes so you know what I have to do No no no no Just because You don't like romantic stories and immediately see the black-and-white issues because you probably inherently are a racist. Doesn't mean that you can just go ahead and pretend you didn't do any work because you didn't have the email at the ready! YOU SHOULD DO A LOT BETTER, YOU NEED THE HELP OF THE ONE AND ONLY... And I hate dogs

1:22:35 There's nothing here. Joel Nelson sent another missing newsletter on August 24th, 2019. Thanks John I didn't get the newsletter but there is nothing that has to do with this particular... Let me just do a quick scan now I don't have any Joel Nelson. He has note oh! I'm sorry I do have the note he mailed this in. Well, that was fun going through squirrel mail though. It's never, never. Dear John and Adam this was supposed to be one half of a lucky Jew donation but like most things in my fiscal life it's a bit short. Thank you both for keeping on with the best Codd piece in the universe! I find this humorous according to The Mueller Report okay

1:23:30 Show us off the rails now, okay? It's off the rails. Karma requests... Okay, here we go. Oh yeah sure! Throw some work my way. He needs some human resource karma for his wife who is growing our first. Need some he- this is all karma So it's just a big one big karma. Okay, big ass karma. Health karma from me as I recover from an acute disc herniation Small business karma for the dude named Ben who hit me in the mouth Well that's nice Positive thoughts to you both And then a dealer's choice of jingles if you want anything. You can throw something there. Uh... You know what? I'm going to give him a little bit of extra special Russian karma today, which we just received in the mail. I think that will be my dealer's choice and then we'll throw in some goat karma. You've got karma

1:24:25 There we go, the Russian karma. Worst karma ever! Hey it's Russian what can I say? It came out of a gray recording booth. LaRoche...I don't want to make this show about shows but now that you mention it because you mentioned earlier and I didn't chime in about her being in that little booth You know just sound like she was in a crappy booth Does anybody find it annoying when you watch TV news? You know what these booths are they have these Not every studio has it, but most of them do. When you're doing a package you go into this little phone booth and it's got a mic in it typically the mic is dead sound completely dead sound and you talk into the mic you do voiceovers or whatever you do. And the booth has holes drilled into it as paneling Oh so you don't die in there! It's old school drill holes. The only reason why you're like a hamster in cardboard box. Just need a wheel yeah

1:25:21 So when you would listen to the reports on television, and I'm talking network. You hear the guy with a crispy, crispy voice and then he as he goes into his package, the voice changes. Every time I hear this, I say Tommy almost reporting for ABC News last night here at ABC News. That's kind of the difference. Yeah. What is the deal that they people would say and I've sound like Joe Biden what is the deal? That people think this transition from one noisy sound kind of an open mic full room sound to a closed Soundproof booth how that's is there. How does that professional and they all do it what's interesting is when at MTV we did many packages for The Weekend Rock and

1:26:12 And which was a weekly show. I really enjoyed doing it early on, of course they kicked everybody off because they had news department and Kurt Loder came in But we would do the voiceovers right after, or before a show depending on what it was. We probably usually do right after we had recorded... ...we'd do a voiceover in the studio with the lav mic sitting in the same spot for the packages they were going to put together later because then you have the same audio Of course the problem is that its much more expensive to keep the whole studio running just for these voice overs but man does it make a difference!

1:26:48 Well, congratulations. I think that's exactly what you have to do! Yeah yeah thank you. I don't think i deserve any kudos for it but... I'm just giving some technical background It's all going to be in the book Onward Juna Juraj Kodzjak I don't know he's a Czech Republic He's Czech Republic Now by the way, I got called out for saying Czechoslovakia. Ooh, Czech Republic. Who are you? Putin? All roads lead to Putin once again! No jingles... no jingles joke karma. No jingles just jobs karma NJJJK. It even says it there in English

1:27:39 I'm thinking in check. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs! Let's vote for jobs! You've got karma. John Patrick in Decatur Illinois $225 he says much respect go podcasting right on that's it Yeah, very nice. Well thank you what it what a great list of donors today No one's really asking for anything that just saying nice things except you Yes fantastic and calling Miller's in the same group. I said she sent an email $201 and and she's the email that I was trying to get too earlier okay well I'm not gonna play the No, I don't have to look its already found it. I haven't already posted. I did my job Oh Okay, oh you got a pen

1:28:33 Brother you did your job except you just okay throw me under the bus all right got my pen this donation makes me a dame oh This is more than just a pencil I gotta get the spreadsheet out, okay. Let's go so and spillers This is fantastic So we do have fillers as the dames is a Dame? This is our Dame Drive And yes, I understand but it was completely unexpected because you were hoarding the note Yes, yes I was. I was hoarding the note that's exactly right and i'd like to be known as Dame Anne of Grey Rock. Okay. D-A-M-E. And of Dame Anne of Grey Rock you said? Of Grey Rock yeah. G-R-E-Y or A-Y? A-Y. Grey Rock one word? Yeah! Grey Rock nice with a K you should keep... You can continue this gag for as long as you want O C K

1:29:31 Okay, I'm just kidding. The last few shows have been fantastic! Thanks for the amazing deconstruction my seven-year old daughter who must have appreciated Adam's earlier f-bomb and i love you both my husband not as much surprise surprise this is good but our daughter is desperately trying to convert him Wow, conversion therapy no agenda style. Yeah, so the bottom up nice thanks for giving me the opportunity to introduce her to critical thinking she's going to be a terror by the way seven year old right that no agenda where you're looking at things will be president

1:30:13 She's definitely destined for greatness stay in touch What's her name do we have a name for the seven-year-old she never mentions her name Can I get a health karma for her since she recently diagnosed with juvenile arthritis? Crap yes, it can get arthritis to and its stinks also a reverend al dealers choice China is asshole And that's true. Keep up the great work, Ann." Okay so we'll do... and then that's true. And does she not have anything for the round table was my question? Nope! Oh, that's too bad. Okay. You know I don't know why you'd encourage that. The round table is loaded with stuff. Well okay she'll be happy with Rent Boys and Chardonnay I guess

1:31:04 No, there's a female version for that. That is the female version. Oh yeah right now I think about it. China is asshole! You've got karma. Oh nice um very very nice we gotta...we do our Dame Drive continues this is this is very encouraging We-I want to see a Dame show A dame a show. Oh man, yes yes yes It's doable Yep Where is my uh here we need the Dame Drive donation jingle that's what we need here There is nothing like a dame Nothing oh-oh Get donations for the plain There is

1:31:54 See you showing our true Broadway roots. John and I of course come from the theater decades spent in the theater. And I came from the theater a couple nights ago! And I was there just last night, well thank you very much Ann! Wait we got one more, oh yeah I'm sorry you're thinking of her... Yeah I was gonna say thank you very much and really look forward to having you by yourself up here on the podium and thank you for teaching your daughter the right way Yeah, and finally last on our list within the same theme of the entire list Sir Joe comes in with 200 bucks parts unknown and he says no jingles no karma NJNK we're done. Fantastic thank you to our executive producers and our associate executive producers these are credits that are real just like any other credit in show business

1:32:50 Of course we don't have the hookers and all that stuff for you, but as an executive producer you do get to lob this credit over others. They are valuable everywhere they're recognized so feel free to put that on your resume, put it on your LinkedIn... LinkedIn is the place where everybody gets hired these days It's none of these job listings, it's all about LinkedIn. It's an incredible ripoff for people who are advertising jobs on it but they can also like John does you have the premium account and you can go search for people I pulled my premium account Oh that's disappointing oh yeah I'm not gonna pay that money there you would out I've said it before I'll say it again

1:33:29 I download for backup my contact list, my followers. Oh yeah you did say this. And they stopped giving me the email addresses You're breaking up with big tech and i'm proud of you John that's very good now for those who still have regular jobs um...you probably will see that to your being recruited on LinkedIn so when someone looks for an executive producer do how many people look for executive producers? A lot! So make sure you put that on your LinkedIn profile. And we'll be thanking more people who came in $50 and above in the second segment, we have Damien coming up in our Dame Drive and for anybody else who would like to consider supporting this program as a producer of the No Agenda podcast You can do that by going to devorak.org slash N-A I think we have definitely earned our spurs for today! You know what? Go out there propagate Our formula is this We go out

1:34:23 We hit people in the mouth Shut up slave I Got a new one Wow, I guess this little girl was that well the seed man of course has been hearing For years because he listens to our show obviously and I guess that shut up slave. I Guess something's stuck It's kind of harsh isn't it? Yeah Oh

1:35:03 Tell me about it, babe. I'm an OTG kinda guy. Yes! Off the grid for a moment here with the No Agenda Shush-a-Shush Show. Off the grid where we break up with big tech and were happy about it... very happy. I do have a couple of stories that were sent in, couple things to mention, and a review Do you recall on the previous show we were talking about the device, the manager of devices at Google saying yeah you should probably disclose to guests that come over if you're using a Google speaker or Amazon Alexa. You should probably disclose to them that these systems are listening all the time? Yeah because they didn't sign the document, the EULA

1:35:51 Right, and do you remember what we made a recommendation of how you could shame people into not having these devices? Yeah it was extreme but it was a good idea. So Brad... You may want to repeat it I... Well producer Brad reports Adam the butt porn search worked! That was my suggestion say hey Google search for butt porn And Brad writes in, Adam no freaking joke man. You just made my phone look up butt porn I was playing you through a Bluetooth speaker and you hey googled my phone into looking it up! I couldn't believe it worked so after 15 minutes of browsing butt porn I decided to email you So it does work excellent thank you very much Brad for that report

1:36:40 Corrections came in. This is from a dude named Ben Adam Thursday's discussion of uBlock origin being banned from the Chrome store was premature this is the very very Often I've used it, this is very popular ad blocker ad blocking is an issue It breaks Google's advertising model chrome is a Google product and It was only the development build apparently that was rejected by the automated submission system. It was never removed from the store I don't think I said it was removed for this or so it's blocked Just one beta build that was automatically rejected for unknown reasons, but the issue has since been resolved Okay But I think in our future ad blockers have a limited Limited prospects

1:37:32 And then with regards to Safari's fraudulent website warning, this was also FUD he says. Which means we probably fell for fear uncertainty and doubt The issue now what I reported on this is that the safari browser looks at when if it hits a URL that is on the Fraudulent website list which is the problem quite honestly That's the problem It then was reporting this to China's Tencent and to Google. So he goes on and says, with regards to Safari's fraudulent website warning URLs are only sent to Tencent if your region is set to China

1:38:17 Google's safe browsing list is used in the rest of the world. I don't know why people are losing their shit over this though Oh, let me tell you why I'm losing my shit over it because we're on that list That list gets propagated to firewalls to corporate firewall We are blocked in so many places because of effing lists Yeah, I have a real problem with people doing that. I have a real problem with a central... I have a problem with people who don't think it's a problem! Yeah and he is dude named Ben so you know i'm going easy on him but it is a very big problem

1:38:54 Lists of fraudulent websites is very subjective and can you get off these lists? No, you can't get off the list. Who do you contact? There's no way to get off the lists You're on the list forever I can never ever Do anything advertising based with Google I got banned years ago And it's impossible not that I want it but It's actually part of the reason we're doing this Is because I saw this happen like okay fine It was 2010 I think or 2009 and they rejected me. Forever, forever lifetime ban! Now let's talk a little bit about... And this is probably my favorite story why you need to break up with big tech Yahoo Groups is shutting down on October 28th What? Yes

1:39:49 They are, they will be... Wait hold on a second. Yahoo groups were the first? Yeah 2001, 2001 they started yahoo groups I'm surprised it's that late but they had these groups and people have even though over the years they've been banning people they've been actually active about then they kind of back of they didn't care but many sewing clubs, knitters... Ham radio guys. Every different variety. Car clubs, Chevy owners any sort of group. Dogs or people to lovers yeah everything's there and I think it is mainly because they can't figure out how to make money off of it? I don't know how much a cost to keep this running.

1:40:33 But you can't make money on this stupid stuff. There's no money to be made it when Celeste Okay, I agree with that okay Thank you, but you can pretend you're making money by doing something other than absolutely Nothing yeah You can't make money if you don't do anything This is your Verizon like bitch about you know how much money we get from average We don't get any money from advertisers or were shutting down the podcast Well, you never had an ad. Yeah well there's that I mean come on! Well the point is that until now there are a number of people in call including or number of outfits and clothing including groups dot IO who say yeah you can port your stuff over and then the sheeple going oh that's a good idea! I'll take it from this side all to the other! Morons!! That is so stupid

1:41:32 There's you can set up your own. It was it was Yeah, it is a new little bit as a little offshoot of Freddy the fire Yeah, it's a little bit like that But please think Think for a second people don't take it from one and throw it into the next And anything your own yes Press.com is free learn how to set up a don't even don't even go to free what you setup your own server Learn how to set about it import some data and the setup a chat group in the knitting club to do that Why not? You have what kind of knitting people aren't stupid oh

1:42:16 You don't want to do it. That's really, that's really degrading is I have no idea why you said that there. I say because knitting today involves a lot of computer work there they're patterns is all this stuff that involves computers and you just bought is now just old white dude man as patriarchy talking right there Yeah, yeah. So but anyway, modern love Verizon is getting out of the game HuffPo was up for sale I'm sure you can get it for a dollar for the domain name It's uh... Yeah, they're there it all goes away it all what you're seeing now with Facebook and Twitter it all goes away

1:43:02 It may take another decade, it all goes away. What's annoying to me is that they sell it as though its gonna be here forever and I know what the old thinking was at Yahoo! Oh you know we can set up these groups and keep people in the Yahoo family They'll be on this site We can then get them over to our news and then we get him do this because there on the site So let's... These groups are great They don't cost us a lot of money And they don't cause not much going on Breaking the bank right running. You know a group of small group But yeah, it was all this you know pie in the sky and then because now they're owned by AT&T or whoever owns Yahoo I can't Verizon Verizon Verizon Verizon jerk off. You know these phone companies get oh good Hey man we have we have the network and the content not it's the dream

1:43:52 That's what they bought it! It was a timecode. Yeah, I'm writing that... but that's truly what it was. That was the AOL dream. That was it and we'll send people CDs discs to work. It'd be great. Floppies. Mm-hmm now for the pièce de résistance Producer Mike true to his word. This is the longest OTG segment historically somebody get a time code on this Producer my baby producer Mike the sent me as he promised through to the PO box 18 209 Austin Texas 787 60 a pixel 3 completely flashed and loaded with graphene OS graphene EOS graphene OS

1:44:41 which is a the developer of Copperhead OS got in some tiff with the company that he was trying to set up and anyway, he left and created his own version of this. And this is the one that will change your network card's MAC address randomly so there are all these different tricks that will certainly circumvent spying from big tech, but it's really much more of a complete open source No Google touching it at all. I think it's called ASOP so it's really the the original Operating system and then tweaked so that the apps can't talk to each other under the hood You can set every single permission

1:45:30 manually on every single app all of them are off pretty much by default but you can say no you can't access motion sensors and they have the F Droid App Store which is all open source free software and so it has email, it has a stripped down version of Chrome which has removed all the googly stuff It had a number of VPN type firewalls, very much like the Pi-hole that we've talked about where you can download a block list and these URLs will never even really come into your machine. You'll never actually go and access them. It looks like shit, of course because there's no prettiness to it. It's just functionality There is a podcast app in there I was able to install a couple other things

1:46:15 And I thought that this would be the ultimate breakup with big tech phone. Very much like we have, you know, the Pure Purism phone, the Librem 5, and there's a number of these pure plays that are out there And I was very excited to try this, like okay finally. This is it because i'm still using the cloaked iPhone 5 which is pretty good against tracking It's certainly not bulletproof for someone to try and get into my phone but there's really not much there because I don't store credit cards and all that stuff...and I have to say it's unusable for me! It's too good! I cannot use this because here's what happened to me

1:47:00 This thing is so fast that I was, you know...I was finding myself just grabbing the phone. Let me just check email for a second or oh! I can just look at Twitter you know? I can just check that real quick in the browser Exactly the opposite of what i want! I need a piece-of-crap phone that deters me from doing this it has to be so much effort to do any kind of function except take a call, send and receive text messages. And once in awhile like if you're out shopping and your podcast partner says could you please review the newsletter

1:47:38 You know, it'll take me five or six minutes to get the email find it. The e-mail queue to download then open it up and something actually will open word that isn't word and then review it painfully copy paste and put something back to you so as much as I really enjoy what they're doing with this It does not, and I slip right into it John. I slipped right back into the addiction. I felt that coming fast and hard like you take that one toke of the cigarette like ah its okay I can do it! I know I can do it! I can just have that one! No! You need to have shit OS. It has to be the worst in the world otherwise if you don't... And I just don't have that much willpower. It becomes too easy. Its usually a puff you take of a cigarette What did I say? Toke

1:48:28 Ooh, sorry. Old habits break hard. Well let's stop and think about this. You don't want... So in other words this off the grid thing is not about solely just being off the grid because of the fixed and then let me back up one further step it doesn't have to look like shit it doesn't have to look terrible or crummy because there are artists out there that are tech savvy. You mean you're talking about it, it doesn't... Paul Couture is who does the site for the... But what's your point? What's your point I said the Graphene OS it didn't matter that it looked like crap No I'm just saying but it doesn't have to look crappy this just... No and the iPhone... Effort or care The iPhone 5 looks good Okay forget even said that Yeah I will Let's get back to the point I'm trying to make which is that you don't want to be off-the-grid

1:49:26 You don't like to be stuck thinking or using these products seamlessly, because you get addicted. Let me explain... And you don't want that either so it's not just being off the grid. OTG is a misnomer of course If it was truly off the grid, it would have no radios and wouldn't communicate with anything. It's on the grid! It's about making me an extension of the grid I don't want to be continuously connected This is why I laugh at people who walk around with their phones while they're driving While they're talking while they're eating while that people making love pick up their phones You need to remove that from your life That is the damaging thing

1:50:07 Yes. Okay, I almost got yeah well i would say I almost got killed no I almost killed somebody Luckily, when I drive... I hate telling these stories. Your stories are great! I used to work for the air pollution district and we had to drive all the time all day and all night so you get really good at left foot braking And so I drive that way normally when i'm in a city or anywhere around I am always left foot braking because they say don't do that No it's incredibly dangerous It's not how is it dangerous? Well, tell me about how you almost killed somebody some dummy Some girls making a left turn while on her phone Uh-huh And I saw this coming a mile away. So I let her I slowed down and kind of broke You know and then I as she turned right in front of me on him on a main thing right in front of me I was like three feet away luckily because I'm left foot braking and could stop in time and lay on the horn

1:51:09 We saw everybody in the vicinity to see what was going on. She was pulling right in front of me because she was paying no attention to that turn! She's making a left turn in front of me and I could have, I was thinking about afterwards because...I just don't do this but I thought you know I could have gotten some body work done. Wait here's how imagine you and whatever your driving oh she's making a lefthand turn! That's your horn right? Pretty much. But I didn't hit her, but it would have been obvious what happened and she probably was texting or something while turning! These people are nuts!! So what's your point? You're breaking it down and you've told the story...

1:51:55 I'm just the reason i've told the story because you said you don't like people walking around looking at their phone like zombies they're driving like that. Well also well okay it's not just a public safety issue, its sanity issue. I already see in the troll room people say oh just turn off notifications no This is what happens. Every waking moment that there's a downtime second in human interaction, people whip out their phones Oh! Oh boy we're waiting for the waiter to come let's look at our phones Gee I'm at the stoplight let's look at my phone

1:52:31 Gee, you know that's it's a commercial break. Let's look at my phone That's the sickness and you need to remove it from your life You still have to be connected It's important to be connected in a connected world but without incredible willpower you become a zombie through just the draw that the information has you have to put up blocks and And the only way and so I guess that's the point of my story is It does not matter what the operating system is, if it functions well it's bad for me. This is my personal experience. It has to be really shit and at this... Shit OS as what I call it! At the same time

1:53:14 Was also compared to the iPhone 5 which is just this beautiful format nice and small You know it has no cover on it. I've dropped it on the ground It doesn't shatter right away at least it hasn't on me yet, and I have chipped a corner off of it But the glass didn't break And it only does the it keeps me in touch with people through text message phone Phone call voicemail and if I need to, I can get an email. I can send an email but i cant even do my typical show prep stuff on it so someone sends me an e-mail check this link out to click on the link before safari has gotten there takes so long that its not worth it and thats what im...that to me is OTG okay and its for your sanity now you're lucky

1:54:05 You already have inherent ability to leave this thing in the drawer. I mean, I also roar I also know I don't I don't Text you there's no reason to text you you'll never read the text except twice a week when I do text I do some texting that I do it on the computer using Google Voice Okay, that's fair So I type on it but and it's only when I have voice dot google.com open And I only routinely do it twice a week because when I send the newsletters ready, that's not coming from my phone. That's coming...I just finished the newsletter and I just mailed it to you and then I go to another tab on my browser and type that into Google Voice as a text message and you get it. It looks like a text message from a phone but its not, its bull crap! I rarely text from my phone

1:54:56 I will receive texts once in a while and I text if they didn't pay the bill or something, or they just didn't charge me right. And then I go back and forth but he generally ends up with a phone call. But I don't like to have the phone with me all of time. I just don't like...and I don't like the idea of it being on in my pocket because every time its...because I have put it on by the computer once in awhile and it's buzzing and buzzing and the noise is good. That's electrifying my balls! I don't need this ray RF down there, I don't like it on my ear, I don't like the RF against my head, I just don't like it or then you put in your pocket your shirt pocket which should fit into. Yeah to electrify your heart? You know because always these signals are doing signaling that way above them and beyond what they should be doing now all of this

1:55:50 Being said I was very impressed with the open source mapping and driving application called here H e r E Incredibly useful. Uh, I mean it even had some I think had some traffic data that it was getting you know But it was not it's not your big Silicon Valley big tech type of operations. Does it do turn by turn? Yeah, it does turn by turn and a moving map and the whole thing...and different voices are very impressive Really? I mean all of this stuff works. My problem was the browser... Yeah, no, I get what your problem is but i'm kind of interested in that part of it. You would love this. It-I don't know... Well, you can borrow from me. I'll just send whatever. We're not gonna borrow anything because when it goes to your place it's in the black hole!

1:56:53 There you go OTG break up with big tech beware of your sanity and I'm gonna I'm like, you know, I should probably register that home on the second. Can you just Just let me check in. I can probably do this ETG sanity no, no, it's gonna do Somebody's doing it right now. They're trying to beat you no, no No one can beat me on this I don't think anyone has this home. I'm not gonna say it until it's Damnit somebody's got a shit OS and someone already has it that's too bad Shit OS calm we have a seven-year-old listening hey now just as a Kind of a fun clip okay mm-hmm You've heard of

1:57:50 Well, the bonus clip I sent. I want to play it now this came from one of our we both know this woman she's a famous broadcaster and leave her name out of it but I got this morning I just thought it was hilarious let's just play this clip. I don't know. I'm no climate change expert. I am a climate change survivor This is the mayor of Puerto Rico, of the main town of San Juan, Puerto Rico. She's a climate survivor, climate change survivor. I heard that!

1:58:28 So this is new, you can be a Holocaust survivor and a cancer survivor. Yes if you can be a climate change denier then someone needs to be a survivor like a Holocaust survivor very good yeah that's the connection exactly Wow well you know there were some protests going on at the Capitol which no one heard about and two very famous actors were arrested which no one heard about Well, we're gonna hear about it now. What do we want? A Green New Deal! When do we want it? Now! So this is the what-do-you-want a green new deal when do we want it now the most uninspired chant in the effing universe as Jane Fonda and Sam Waters got arrested. What do we want? A Green New Deal!

1:59:24 And now Jane gets arrested. Go Jane! Woo! Arrested! Alright, she's showing her handcuffs to the camera. I'm Jane Fondo! I'm getting arrested! And here comes Sam Waters. Watterson, Waterson? Waters...Waterson...Waterson. How pathetic is it

2:00:05 that people are getting arrested and there's cheers for it. The cops are standing there going, really I got to clap this 85 year old in handcuffs? Okay... You know like alright if that's what you- It was just a waste of time it made zero news coverage no one cares but Jane Fonda's face looks dynamite! I mean Nancy Pelosi should go talk to her Oh my goodness! She has the work done by the best. And she had the beret on, you know with it and she looked perfect Sam Waterston I guess they're both on the show Frankie and Grace or Grace & Frankie which i like that show I'm sure its racist and dumb I'm sure that you hate it but I like the show

2:00:54 But it's just because I said that other show is racist doesn't mean. I think everything is racist You think this show is pathetic because it makes old actors play gay people you've I know that that's what you're thinking? I don't know, you know, I saw the show when it first came out. I thought it was well done Well shot well produced. I thought it was a little slow moving and boring so I stopped watching maybe sell to It's very boring show. I see none of do the racism right now. I didn't say that There's no black people in the show. Oh yeah, there is one black person. Token blacks! He's racist. But I just find it very sad

2:01:35 that these actors, and they were holding Green New Deal signs professionally printed. All printed? Yes! Jane and Sam... It costs money you know what you can't make paint without fossil fuel No you can't You can't That's just the whole thing it was like I felt sad Sad sad sad So there is well on the topic of celebrities Oh i was going to do one more climate change Oh, okay. Do one more now you want to get back to celebrities? Yeah of course why wouldn't we get back the celebrities when we can be doing climate change just for everyone who really wants the US to stay at war You know this is something you could use around the water cooler if someone said yeah Just see if it fries someone's brain man We got a we gotta stay protect the Kurds man gonna protect the Kurds two major studies published in June remained buried by most major media outlets

2:02:32 The first, Pentagon Fuel Use Climate Change and the Costs of War by Brown University's Costs of War Project confirmed previous findings that the U.S. military is the single largest producer of greenhouse gases in the world and that the Pentagon is responsible for between 77%-80% percent of all US government energy consumption since 2001 The second study, Hidden Carbon Costs of the Everywhere War Logistics Geopolitical Ecology and the Carbon Bootprint of the U.S. Military published in transactions of the Institute of British Geographers found that if the US military were a country its fuel usage alone would make it the 47th largest emitter of greenhouse gases in the world between Peru and Portugal

2:03:22 But these groundbreaking studies received no coverage in virtually all of the US's biggest papers and TV news channels. Well, duh! I like that carbon boot print Is that what she said? Someone in the troll room said it. I don't know somebody say carbon boot print That's great by the way, I want to give you a borderline clip for that. That was a nice clip Thank You It's from the show counter spin and producer sent it to me I don't remember who sent it to me but it is of course appreciated So I'm, this is a clip that really has nothing to do with anything that's a thematic topic for today. But i just thought it was interesting because it refers to the movie that's getting more publicity this Joker movie. Oh yeah! Yeah which I haven't seen either. No but I probably see it when it comes out on pay-per-view

2:04:19 But, hello. I don't want to get a shot in the theater! Hello pay-per-view you mean like Amazon or Netflix? I don't think pay per view was really a thing anymore It's still a thing but it's controversial film so this guy that comes out and does these editorials well you've seen him before he has got this very stilted way of speaking and a giant mole named Mr Reagan And he's a podcaster. You've seen him and he made this little aside, he went off to do a review of the movie which he thinks is a work of genius right wing art. Of course yes

2:05:00 And he did this little aside that I thought was just, whether it's true or not. I'm not sure but I can kind of believe it might be true and it's very disgusting with this film they were trying to say This is what happens when the wealthy and powerful neglect the common people This Is What You Get I discussed this film yesterday with a very talented, successful director out here in Los Angeles. He's a closeted conservative. He can't expose his political views to anyone without being blacklisted but he happens to be a fan of this channel so we've become friends the other day he was told by his agent that he wasn't going to be getting much work in the near future because he is straight white male. The agent suggested

2:05:41 very seriously that this director come out as trans or at least gender non-binary. This, the agent told him would make him eligible to get more jobs as a director That is not a joke I believe it! I'd believe it too! In fact, I have just to give you an idea Under the SJW heading. This is a promo for Spotify, the music company Now you have to I wish I could kind of show you this but The people speaking are all white

2:06:19 They're all trans except for the one Asian-American girl, millennial who I guess is in charge of human resources. They're in a beautiful glass building overlooking San Francisco... In their office with a barista sipping cappuccino while they're discussing this! At Spotify, everyone just trusts each other and has this culture of it's okay to ask questions even if they might be difficult questions. Pronouns are kind of a tricky subject for me in that I keep going back and forth about what do you use? What do you use where? Well, I spent about 30 years or so in the closet because my previous employers didn't have any particular tolerance for transgender people. At Spotify we have employee resource groups

2:07:09 and Spectrum is our LGBTQ plus employee resource group. At Spotify, having a diverse workforce and being inclusive is important so everyone can feel like themselves at work So what we did was to come up with a list of essentially every medical procedure that trans people might need Basically Spotify said oh we didn't realize there was a problem there We'll fix it And that was pretty amazing As of 2019, we now offer masculinization and feminization treatments recommended by the World's Professional Association for Transgender Health. It's not a question of vanity you know for someone who needs these things it's really a question of being able to be perceived

2:07:55 You know as themselves at Spotify everyone's part of Spotify. Everyone's a member of the band and Everyone is determined to help everyone else who needs it my advice is don't be afraid There's nothing wrong with knowing who you are and where you stand Part of what I'm doing here Is trying to be visible so people who are like me Know that they're not alone Now, as we were talking earlier John about the entertainment business and I consider this to be an entertainment company. The first down quarter this publicly listed company has gone are your feminization treatments okay that's the first thing they're gonna cut. That...I'm telling you! That's new on the list by the way It's a but there's virtues in it with the thing that struck me was it was all white people

2:08:46 Trans this trans that Oh all virtue signaling and they're drinking cappuccinos in their glass offices Overlooking San Francisco. We couldn't get more elitist Well now I bet it's the leadest I took to thing there was a subtle message in there, I think is elitist gay Because Silicon Valley thing probably then oh So I think it's an elite, I think it's a gay company. And the reason I say that is because of the code word that was in there which was for all members of the band and there was a movie called Boys In The Band which was one of their first movies about the gays. It seemed to me to be codes so these are a bunch of elitist gays that are just virtue signaling

2:09:36 It's you're right is all bullcrap. Totally and it's all going away with your first down quarter or your for or your for, you know when when the when the you lose the lawsuit and you have to pay 80 billion dollars in back royalties this is the first thing that's gonna go hey give me a feminization back spotify I can't believe why would they put it? This is really...I really hate virtue signalers like this. Mm-hmm I hear ya I hear it. Yeah, you want to do all that stuff? Just do it! Why do you have to brag about it?! The old thing was like if you're a very generous person of philanthropist many of them to this day they don't go bragging about it. It's not philanthropy if you talk about it. That's the way I see it. You just do it either do or you don't. You know doing and bragging about it yes oh yeah so I'm still great

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2:24:27 a longtime supporter of the show. He says Dame Heather of The Lost Boys hosted a great meetup in Santa Fe, solid turnout she brought her book on the inside secrets of the CIA just in case no one showed but we had people come from Colorado even hope all is well and it says Jeff from the land of the Mars rover and then a quick rundown of the Meetups if you haven't seen it NoahJen at meetups.com which actually did I hear or was there note Someone sent you maybe it was a message online that meetups.com is now charging people for Attendees or some bullcrap like that Somebody's in there, but I have not confirmed it yeah So I'm so happy we moved away from that platform and we got our own It's run by one of our producers which makes beautiful He even has made I believe he's made the source code available on github if you want to create your own no agenda Meetups calm here's what's going on for

2:25:27 The 20th, which is today we have the Michigan local number one gunpowder get-together. This is the third time they're doing it They even sent me a note that really sorry I can't be there they'd love to shoot with me I would love to shoot with you guys That's Linden sportsmen club today at douchebag Pat is hosting that tomorrow the Mason Dixon meetup in Louisville Kentucky and Oh, and also today at high noon. So that's already underway upstairs of the Monarch Beer Company on Thursday the Nashville Tennessee HALO meetup six o'clock at Mas Tacos organizer Rich Bee brand new we have the this will be Friday The No Agenda Three Mile Island evac zone meet up

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2:28:02 Without triggering and without a holes no a hose. No a hose no a hose Well, I got a couple of things that want to bring into this so we get people up to speed on stuff that no one's reporting on Sorry yes was that it's premature clipolation Well, let's play. Let's start with this as a short clip but I didn't know this was going on. Tell me you knew this is going on riots in Lebanon? Well yes in fact that was exactly the clip I was about to... Today thousands of anti-government demonstrators returned to the streets of Lebanon for a third straight day

2:28:40 Protesters, angry over the country's failing economy called for a new government waving flags and marching past storefronts that were smashed and rioting last night. Yesterday Lebanon's Prime Minister gave his government a 72-hour deadline to agree on a plan to avert an economic crisis and put an end to the demonstrations In a televised speech today the leader of Hezbollah said The group opposes a change in government and said every citizen is responsible for the financial crisis. This is very interesting, I was literally going to play a clip that related to this because I don't have audio of this report but BBC News is reporting that this riot, this protest started because of the WhatsApp tax

2:29:28 Yes, the government had... listen to this! The government had announced a 20 cent daily charge on voice calls made through WhatsApp. Yeah so it comes down to about six bucks a month and this is the BBC is claiming oh yes that people are rioting over the WhatsApp tax and I'm thinking Really now? Lebanon Shit that's not what I wanted to ask damn it. Yeah, I want to play one to play the obvious Here is the obvious So I came back to see him a few weeks later and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan I said are we still going to war with Iraq and he said oh It's worse than that He said he reached over on his desk you picked up a piece of paper. You said I just I

2:30:19 He said, I just got this down from upstairs meeting the Secretary of Defense's office today and he said This is a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries in five years. Starting with Iraq and then Syria Lebanon Libya Somalia Sudan And finishing off Iran. Wow! Been waiting for Lebanon to join the party here they are Thanks to WhatsApp. And yes, thanks to Facebag and WhatsApp for the BBC to report this I mean you know that this is a color revolution It's the West that's behind it. They've been on the list since 2001, that was General Wesley Clark who two weeks after 9-11 received this briefing of all these countries we're gonna take out and I've been waiting for Lebanon to show up and there it is boom! The neocons at work a new theater And now it's of course because the free people deserve to have WhatsApp man. This just crazy they can't go without WhatsApp

2:31:21 It's used to whatsapp once but the question is you know, is this the trump administration doing it? Is it uh, is it douchebags in the in the foreign service and I think it's douche bags in the foreign service. I think they don't pay any attention with trump ones Right on cue as we've been following the vape wars and the phony baloney propaganda only meant to do one thing, To bring the smokeless tobacco to market without any hindrance And nullify...and dare I say decimate The vape culture and the vape industry

2:32:06 To remind everybody, this is the same company that bought Juul is now going to kill Juul and it's going to market only the smokeless tobacco IQOS. And we're going to get rid of everything and its inclusion with Health & Human Services, inclusion with the FDA And here is the Health and Human Services Secretary Azar going on CNBC, the money business program to move the needle a little bit further. To get rid of a perfectly fine industry. E-cigarettes in the news jewel! Mind you they don't say vaping continuously it's e cigarettes e cigarettes it's an e cigarette e cigarette cigarettes bad e cigarette e cigarette who uses the e cigarette term

2:33:00 in the normal world. Nobody, it's all vaping but not when you're trying to get rid of it. special guest in the studio this morning, Alex Azar Health and Human Services Secretary. Mr. Secretary welcome to the program great to be with you Stuart I heard you early this morning saying that vaping devices if i can call them that are illegal anyway! I didn't know that That's absolutely right The Tobacco Control Act says these e-cigarette devices actually have to be approved by FDA before they can be on the market now the Obama administration said

2:33:42 Let's let these be on the market so that adults can get used to them build a market share to get off of cigarettes And we carried that forward but the problem is what we saw is just this explosion Of kids using e-cigarettes and we now have five million kids regularly using e-cigarettes and eight million adults, and while it's important to get adults off of cigarettes and were committed to that We can't let a whole generation of kids get addicted to nicotine because those five million youngsters notice how the equation between Nicotine and cigarettes is just on par here. It's not the same thing That's why they continuously call it e cigarettes Vaping does not have tar does not have formaldehyde as none of all if it may have other crap in there But this is a hit job on an entire industry are indeed addicted to negative areas I was with the first lady, and I were with kids last week

2:34:34 A young girl who was doing multiple of these cartridges, each one is a pack of cigarette nicotine. Oh let's make it better comparison! It's like smoking a pack of cigarettes 25 in your face all at one time! You've got kids who have to go to AA they're gonna be in recovery the rest of their life they're so addicted to nicotine LA Times had a story that people are actually starting to use cigarettes to wean themselves off of their nicotine addiction from the e-cigarette products. Do you think they should be banned? That's a foolish question, if you ban the whole thing then you ban the device which gets people away from smoking tobacco and that's a bad thing in itself! So your job really is to stop kids getting it but... Now that was very important I think its actually Stuart Varney so maybe Fox Business

2:35:25 That's very important what he said there. Well, we can't oh no we can't be banning devices No well We can't do that because we've got the smokeless tobacco device coming out supposing you had to have a hold on a second I wish i could back it up because the way it was phrased this is obviously rehearsed Varney makes it sound as though He doesn't decide It's one of these funny grammatical things where he says we should be banning these things Something about cigarettes which is a bad thing in itself and made us sound as though Banning the vaping devices is a bad thing. It was very funny structure, but it's what he actually said Well back up that truth wants to come out Oh I'll back it up let's listen again cigarettes nicotine you've got kids who have to go to AA They're gonna be in recovery the rest of their life They're so addicted to nicotine The LA Times had a story that people are actually starting to use cigarettes

2:36:17 to wean themselves off of their nicotine addiction from the e-cigarette products. Do you think they should be banned? That's a foolish question if you ban the whole thing then you ban the device which gets people away from smoking tobacco and that's a bad thing in itself. That's right Yeah, yeah it's like the truth came out and he caught himself I guess kind of I don't know. That was very weird. Just have no idea. Supposing you had to have a doctor's prescription? Yep, that could be one option that Congress could look at it all about balance we want the adults to have access to products so they can get off of cigarettes when keep away from kids the key right now is were not banning them congress actually said its Congress banned. We're starting to

2:37:02 There's a logic inconsistent well this whole thing, but the logical inconsistency is the following. One kids are using these things and they have to smoke cigarettes to get off of them that's what he just said according to The LA Times but meanwhile The only thing they're good for is to get people off of cigarettes. So how can they be good at getting you off cigarettes? If you use them, then you have to use cigarettes to get off them! It makes zero sense what he said. Because it's also bullcrap

2:37:38 Well, we know the whole thing is bullcrap and it's just a scheme. And Varney should be ashamed of himself for putting... This is like this is a native ad for something! For IQOS that's- It's setting it all up They're opening stores all over America now. They look like Apple stores and you go in, it's a vape-like looking device and it's got a pod except that it's not just pure nicotine, its smokeless tobacco I'm dying to try one because I want to see what all the hype is about but so you're actually getting a cigarette only... It's kind of like Barbarians at the Gate You know? The smokeless cigarettes

2:38:19 That's that's that's been the holy grail for the tobacco industry for decades is to have this IQ you are yes, I small eye Capital Q OS and you pronounce it. I quass It's a shittiest branding of ever heard of I'm gonna continue to clip couple seconds left a doctor's prescription Yep, that's one of these things. That could be one option that Congress could look at it's all about balance we want the adults to have access to products so they can get off a cigarette you want to keep them away from kids The key right now is we're not banning them congress actually said its congress banned We're starting to enforce that and say if you have products that are attractive and available to kids Get off the market all of you by May of 2020 have to come into Oh! If you have products that are attractive and marketable to kids like

2:39:05 I don't know, Facebook? TikTok or Snapchat. Maybe you should be banned too it's dangerous for their health. ...to FDA and submit an application and we'll review that We'll look at nicotine levels will look at all the ingredients are they safe can the product be adulterated And are you gonna market in a way that will make them available to kids so we'll bring them under a regulatory framework for the first time Yay! Douchebags And you know, and the first lady's in on this very disappointing that she's been roped into this. She's out there vaping very bad and very bad yeah I don't think any of that is good for kids but please don't just lying the huge tobacco lobby

2:39:51 does not deal in nicotine, they deal in tobacco. And they could not have these Nicotine Administration devices floating out there getting people hooked on nicotine! They need to be the delivery device. They have tobacco fields and a whole infrastructure That's why I-Quas that's where it is headed Did you look it up? I'm looking at... well I was looking up if there was a store in Austin No, no, no, there isn't. I am waiting for it No, there is no store in Austin. They're just starting but I've gotten lots of uh The device cost a hundred simoleons What what cost 100 simoleons? A hundred bucks for the little the little smoking smoking thingy Yeah and and then how much for the pods i haven't gotten that price yet But it's too expensive And actually it's called the heat

2:40:42 Heat stick. Yeah, the heat. Double E. Pass it around pass it around. What is this? Is this a video? This is a video they got going on here... No audio okay whatev's fine So there you go, an industry being killed for the tobacco lobby. Everyone's in on it including Varney. Yeah and yeah just okay well whatever we'll just go along with it. This is a very roundabout way of doing things I think

2:41:21 Borderline genius. I thought that Juul was gonna be the product they were gonna use it as the entry point thing, but no they just bought it to dump it. They bought it to kill it! This is an old-fashioned scheme this is the old way that used to be done you buy and you kill it. Catch and Kill It was dynamite yeah well it would be nice... I don't know why your so disgusted? I'm impressed I just hate my government doing this to me and to people you know, to the people. And it's just... Oh yeah because the government has always been so honest What would we do with this show? If the government was honest, there'd be no show. Yeah we'd be done! But it's the media... I mean this is a business show and like oh RoaRoa you cigarette, you drink it, fuck off. I'm sorry. It was lame that was lame and it was really embarrassing This is why people should be listening in donating to No Agenda Show because we don't do that stuff scripted promotion for something

2:42:24 Unbelievable, but they do it constantly. I think we should leave our show on that note. You've made a perfect point for an out It is an out. We'll continue by saying... It's important to know at the end of the show because this is your only well since this is our road to sanity. Hell yes! Keep people from killing themselves on their freeway. On I-35 which isn't even a freeway. A highway Well, thank you all very much for supporting us and... Wait! Hold on a second. What? How can the I-35 internet, that's the interstate system, has to be a freeway Okay it's a free way ...I guess Thank you for supporting this show everybody Dvorak dot org slash NA coming to you from the Opportunity Zone 33 in the frontier of Austin Texas capital of the drone star state FEMA region number six on the governmental maps

2:43:20 In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, I am John C. DeMorak. Coming up after the show on noagenestream.com we've got The Grumpy Old Bens episode 31 Artificial Intelligence and end of show mixes from Sir Timothy and Sir Kevin in the local One Choir Jesse Koy Nelson and Dave Corbonu Until Thursday everybody Adios Mofos! If you want it, here it is Come and Brexit Make your mind up fast If you want it any time You can take it But ya better hurry cause It may not last Did I hear you say That there must be a catch? Will you walk away from A fool and her forthright

2:44:27 If you want it, here it is Come and Brexit But you better hurry cause' its going fast You'd better hurry cause' its going fast You better run because it's going fast. All the douchebags from decades and decades prior who were in all those deals, and that includes the Clintons and the Bushs and just all these... the Cheneys of the world they're all in these deals We don't need it!

2:45:12 All the douchebags from decades and decades prior, we don't need it. We don't need it! So what I see Trump doing is, eh screw it you were out. It was a campaign promise Yes it was Hey, hey!

2:46:05 I have to say that i'm happy about the deal but i'm sad about Brexit. Well as it turns out, i'm secretly evil! It provides certainty where brexit creates uncertainty Imagine my head is the planet The surface has quacks in it like this The negotiations on the future relations immediately after the deal will have been approved, we'll start our debates on the project in November without interruption. It's also up to European Parliament

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