Pseudo-Addiction

00:00 My bad, my bad, my bad, my bad. Scouring the social nets making toast and broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state here in downtown Austin Tejas in the Cluedio in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where toast isn't code for anything. I'm John C DeVore Oh wait a minute see this is why people tune into the pre-show on the stream

00:40 Because I think they it's like like I'm cue. I'm dropping breadcrumbs And I said, I'm making toast and that guess you did a whole toast song or what? Did you do when I was out? I did I had the toast on the recorder damn did hopefully someone recorded it No, don't think they need your guy can play that well no, that's okay as fine. I'll get there seriously I'll get the recording its really okay Well, I thought it was gonna be a boring weekend Until okay. What made you think that? You know it would just be the same, you know We can't find the children the children are being drugged Hitler Nazi Yeah I thought would be a typical weekend for you know today's Today's news network coverage But instead we got interrupted and every channel everyone was flipping out Tom Arnold has tapes now you probably didn't see any of this did ya I got a clip oh

01:41 I have a couple of clips. I would love to hear your... Well, my clip is about his threatening the president and not answering questions. In fact, I left the pauses in but I decided that because it's just dead air you guys he's coked up Yes, I think my clips prove that too. Yeah and he decides to... He won't answer questions so he just doesn't say anything and the girl isn't moving along So i have filled The space. The dead air. Well, shall I just do my clips first and then we can do your comments? No you might as well do mine then... My clip will be a good intro for yours. Alright so the background to this, I don't know if it's explained in your CNN clip, um the background is several months ago there was this announcement by Vice that Tom Arnold was going to do his show going after the Trump tapes

02:36 And and you know it's like we saw the I think we might have even played the trailer. It was funny He's like okay, the guys going to end spice so fine he's going after the tapes these guys advice by the way is not a media organization as an advertising agency So they know exactly what they're doing and then I guess Arnold was tweeting out pictures of him and Michael Cohen and referring to tapes and so Somehow, oh yes my clip is perfect. Yeah and I'll just say that somehow i believe um and I basically took a piece from Nicole Wallace because she's so annoying and I thought the two of them together would be fun to listen to but somehow there was this confusion thinking that

03:19 Apparently Tom Arnold has access to the peepee tape in Russia or something like that. It was very confusing and they were on all the primetime shows! It was on Pooper... Idiots I mean, this guy came in trolled everybody as far as i'm concerned. I think that is watching this interview and he knows that Michael Cohen and when I leave here...I'm going to go back to the regency with Michael Cohen. Listen for a second just look consider this And I am gonna spend the weekend with Michael Cohen and the president Donald Trump Ivanka Trump I've spent either weekend hanging out with Michael Cohen

03:58 And there's a lot going on. So, you've treated him... You disrespected him and his family and there is a lot going on so he gets to sleep that's good enough for me. So Tom, you are gonna spend the weekend with Michael Cohen, the presidents former attorney. Did Michael Cohen... One person at time feeling... By the way we have seen this before We have seen this Who was last guy who came in with Aaron Burnett? Burnet on CNN who was drunk I think there's a problem ethically, there is a problem with bringing people on who are this wasted. He is totally wasted here even I can hear and I'm not very good at recognizing that

04:37 But yes, he's clearly it just it's kind of abusive Sater all these people that were there were friends who I've got one person at a time so little people from Trump's world did Michael Cohen tell you specifically that he is Working with the authorities that he has agreed to cooperate With the authorities in their investigation. I wouldn't This is too important to me, to F around. And you know the word I'm talking about? And I have a five-year old son and two year old daughter and that's really why doing this show

05:16 Trump tapes, but this is serious to me poppy and I'm not effing around No, I don't say you think Michael did Michael Cohen tell you specifically really just yes or no that he is cooperating with the authorities Should charges be brought? You didn't edit that. I saw that I Think it works better with a video John Did he tell you? Do you not want to answer the question? No. You don't want to answer the question? Right, because... Will you let us know what you learn over the weekend since we're spending the weekend with Michael Cohen?

06:14 Thank you for being here Tom Arnold. Thank you appreciate it. Thank you, okay Wow I kind of like the incoherent version more that he had with Nicole Wallace well actually not incoherent He was just completely Mumbling just spouting stuff off and to me it was very entertaining think about this until you mention by the way That wasn't my edit I saw someone else did a version of that? the that you mentioned, which is I didn't think about it but now that you mention it. Yeah! It's abuse this is another example of this guest abuse and get a guy on his coke to the gills yeah could barely talk and he started okay just can't keep a coherent thought he so gone and then you let him sit there silently for that period of time asking that question

07:11 That he won't answer and he just sits there looking at the camera and be freaked out rubbing his beard. It's really bad you're right it's horrible I'm professional, and here's MSNBC the great NBC News organization abusing him some more with Nicole Wallace. This is the intro. What's your mission now? Oh, my mission is to get him out of there because he's so incompetent and it's so dangerous and every day you know what this week with the children being ripped from their parents I mean he's obviously a racist that he has racists people around him he is cruel any lies and just the trauma things putting on all America

07:54 every day and is just changing everything about who we what we are as a country it is so unsafe. What America represents and you know eventually it's gonna be China and Russia on our borders I mean, I know seems crazy but... Just stock up! China and Russia are going to be on our borders This is why I like this interview better. China and Russia are borders, it seems crazy but he's just changing everything about the fabric of our country but is just god-awful and so you know I'm glad that my friend Michael Cohen is with us

08:32 Okay, he's with us like he's dead and he says a spirit my friend Michael Cohen is with us He's watching his now above so of course we want what Tom. What do you have? What do you have on these tapes at this point in nowhere in the interview has it really been explained that he has this TV show But what do you have on that kind of tape dear the PPT? What is the power of What is on the tapes that you're going to release on your Biden campaign? Well, the interesting thing about Donald Trump. You know he's this president I mean he's been on tape The stuff that's available to the public already should be disqualified for a guy who rents a car for instance He started day one... I like this logic The stuff he said that's on tapes we've heard should disqualify him from renting a car

09:18 I don't know like China with the social ranking or something maybe, maybe? He might not get the Hertz gold line but i think he can still get a car. By calling it faking his own voice to say his father had given him his money and he was really a billionaire Now here's a man who in his inebriation is just letting it all spout out that's really what's happening here and it's just he's reaching back before the election, before the real campaign started. Anything he can throw out there it's just spewing out of him. It's sad. He has admitted to walking in the Mistied Universe pageant naked and bragging about that on Howard Sturge so the stuff that is for public consumption already

10:00 is just horrible. And that, and you know the tape I heard he uses the Edward and he calls his son Eric the R word for... Where's that tape? We want to hear him call his own son a retard! That tape we want! People with uh..you know it just disgusting sexual harassment things to women on set of The Apprentice So when I heard this, he's got absolutely nothing. This is going to be a series 10-12 episodes We'll have little drips and drabs we'll keep expecting something to pop at the end It never will it'd be like Geraldo safe the Al Capone safe They're gonna find any tape Mark Burnett is not giving up any tapes

10:43 So he's got something but most of it is going to be Howard Stern stuff, I'm sure. And here he is just a little more about the president. And also the irony is Donald Trump is an illegitimate president He did not win the election without help from Russia You will see this and he knows he's illegitimate every time you mention it he freaks out and that's karma Okay? I'm not quite sure how the karma fits into it Now, now another one of my favorite topics which Nicole picks up. She's the one that every afternoon on MSNBC she says, they're gonna flip against him! Flip, flip, flip, gonna flip! And now Donald Trump is like who's Michael Cohen? What he's not my lawyer I don't know that guy He's a nice guy you know he's so full and finally he realized it his wife helped to realize it he's like oh my god well I got to take care of my family because this guy Is the worst and so he's taking care of his whole family but does that include flipping

10:00 is just horrible. And that, and you know the tape I heard he uses the Edward and he calls his son Eric the R word for... Where's that tape? We want to hear him call his own son a retard! That tape we want! People with uh..you know it just disgusting sexual harassment things to women on set of The Apprentice So when I heard this, he's got absolutely nothing. This is going to be a series 10-12 episodes We'll have little drips and drabs we'll keep expecting something to pop at the end It never will it'd be like Geraldo safe the Al Capone safe They're gonna find any tape Mark Burnett is not giving up any tapes

10:43 So he's got something but most of it is going to be Howard Stern stuff, I'm sure. And here he is just a little more about the president. And also the irony is Donald Trump is an illegitimate president He did not win the election without help from Russia You will see this and he knows he's illegitimate every time you mention it he freaks out and that's karma Okay? I'm not quite sure how the karma fits into it Now, now another one of my favorite topics which Nicole picks up. She's the one that every afternoon on MSNBC she says, they're gonna flip against him! Flip, flip, flip, gonna flip! And now Donald Trump is like who's Michael Cohen? What he's not my lawyer I don't know that guy He's a nice guy you know he's so full and finally he realized it his wife helped to realize it he's like oh my god well I got to take care of my family because this guy Is the worst and so he's taking care of his whole family but does that include flipping

11:39 think the rest of us Jews? Donald Trump is not. He's done. Jews are safe! He knows that Donald Trump does not care about him, he doesn't care about his family and it's over He doesn't want to be harassed by Donald Trump because he is the president of the United States still and probably has a bunch of dudes. The President probably has a bunch of dudes, John just so you know don't harass the president's got a bunch of dudes! Be harassed by Donald Trump cause he is the president I say still and he probably has a bunch of dudes but Michael Cohen gonna take care of his family and this country first that's all you need to know think about that yeah I'll think about it

12:38 No. Now here's where you can clearly hear there is confusion about the video. Let me, I've got two more questions for you. One we know that what was seized from his offices included a lot of audio and recordings did he promise to share those with you? To share them with me? Oh, Michael Cohen first of all does not work for Vice. I want to make that clear he's not getting any money He probably broke. I mean but they should even say that Michael Cohen did not make any promises with me You're working on it you're trying to get oh I love it because he has to tell yes all the tapes and in fact some of those have my are My name is on those man

13:21 Alright, final clip. Of course he was married to Roseanne Barr so we should probably bring up the ex-wife! Let me get my last question you started out your first answer you talked about your ex wife Rosanne yes how did she end up so far on the other side of the Trump question from you? I don't know. You know, we were divorced 24 years ago and she got into a lot of people in this country you know? And i was talking to her daughter the last few months and it happens with my family here in Iowa. We're talking about Andy McCain, the FBI agent his mother-in-law is from Iowa, his family and wife

14:02 He says, I think she got into and then he goes off onto a tangent and a shaggy dog story. Yes And it comes back to ever come back? Yeah, I think she got into blank Yep. Yep. Yep. Yeah, he does in Iowa You know we're talking about is a Jacob Andy McCabe the FBI agent His mother-in-law, I'm from his family and his wife and her brother in law is one of my best friends. She's a Trump guy like it just people just get sucked in there now Roseanne is full on with the Nazis and with the racist and it's just crazy crazy crazy Just so you know Rosanne is full arm with the Nazis and the racists and the crazy crazy crazy Wow

14:43 Just so you know. I don't know how you get in there, I think mental health and putting that stuff... it's rigged. They're against this. And also they disseminate so much information. I did a deep dive into the information that they specifically... It's not just Fox News but its Fox News AND the internet and stuff and it's like a drug. Donald Trump is the kingpin, he is perpetuating that's why he has to go too He's the kingpin of this drug that people are just keeping people sick in this country. He's got to go We want you come back when your Vice Specialist getting ready to air It's a series Nicole I love you!

15:31 Not like my ex-wife who was with the Nazis in their racist... They're gonna have to cancel that series. Oh, Vice? No! No! They're not going to cancel that. Well you heard it on this show Really? You think they are going to cancel it? Why? If he keeps acting like this This is the... God come on, this what these guys thrive on They love this. They always have stupid stuff like this It's kind of their business model It's no as bad as... I mean your making it sound like there just running another version of Jackass Vice yeah, yeah I'd say vice is running a hello Tom Freston is the guy who's shepherding this whole deal former CEO of MTV networks Yeah It's an advertising agency. Yeah No, I understand the advertising agency aspect but this guy's this guy the problem with guys like this as they turn on everybody and Unless you got some dope

16:29 Well yeah, if you keep him supplied with something. With the stuff he needs... Yeah then we're okay! Then we're good to go. But I find it a little sad just to- It was such emotional rape of this guy and it was on Lawrence O'Donnell, everybody had him on. And kind of half smiling but oh let them go on and on and on and on. Oh beautiful great! Don't they understand especially MSNBC this is just a ruination of their credibility? What credibility do they have but this isn't helping. If you listen to the guy he's incoherent yeah and they're taking him seriously because we may have some goods on Trump that's how hard up they are Yeah I think so

17:14 I truly think so. You know this the- Flip flip! And the, if you listen to all of the interviews he did He really Michael Cohen's really not giving him anything Michael Cohen is not really cooperating Yeah It's just it was just trolling he trolled for his TV show That's they have to let it go on who be it would be stupid Not to or would be stupid to cancel this great keep I'm gonna stick with my theory hmm I don't see why Vice would have to stop. Why not? For one thing, he's got nothing. He sold them a bill of goods and it is going to make them look stupider than they are... Oh! He is not producing this. They just brought him as the host. He has nothing. Now, he had some sales pitch to do with this or he wouldn't be involved at all. This guy says that no one is having a meeting of executives and saying well who we're gonna have me the host?! I've got an idea!!

18:10 Tom Arnold, that's the guy. You don't know! I don't buy it. David Hasselhoff brought down the wall so if you take that line of thinking... If you take that line of thinking then you never know what Tom Arnold could do Yeah, no. He had to be the guy that pushed into sales of this. Him and a bunch of guys again just see about three executives and him all with a huge pile of white powder. Oh it's a great idea Tom! And you do it? Oh yeah Colin is a great friend of mine I hang out with him

18:52 Probably. Anyway, it made the weekend a little more entertaining because it started off like this... Well the images suggest those of concentration camps families being cut apart I know children are being marched away to showers another being marched away to showers Are they being told they are just like the Nazis had said that they were taking people to showers and then never came back? Look, bottom line Donald Trump increasingly looks like Hitler and Nazi Germany. These look like concentration camps. Dave it's rewarding breaking our immigration laws. It is cruel unusual punishment John I said this yesterday but increasingly Donald Trump is turning this nation into Nazi Germany in turning these into concentration camps

19:33 What's happening is very American in that this is how the country was founded. This is what happened 76 years ago to Japanese Americans in internment camps. Now look, I know we're not Nazi Germany alright? But there is a commonality there... I know it will be controversial But I felt a warning flare was necessary. So concerned about what's going on in our all of us are so concerned we see these heartbreaking images and it's it's so so awful And this is a policy that is inhumane indecent un-American

20:08 completely dictatorial and like I said yesterday they are the tactics that have been used through history by the worst purveyors of pure evil including slave traders, including Nazis, including terrorists. And now this great country is using them as well and we should all be ashamed. There are commentators like Joe Scarborough bringing up the n-word Nazi. Oh! The N word has changed We have a change Yes, good catch yes the n-word stands for Nazi We can finally use the n-word again. I have about three clips, i don't have about that three clips in this commentary because there's something...I've realized that for one thing the thing we're noticing is that Trump signed and thinks okay we're stopping this which is what they wanted him to do but apparently they had so many things planned protests and demonstrations yes and it's I found that actually march on the same organization did the kids march with

21:07 against the guns, it's planned. It's done! They are running the march on the 30th that's happening no matter what. And so and the point of their march is? To get Democrats elected Yeah there you go let's play these three clips yeah I think people are getting annoyed by this I don't think it's gonna hurt Democrats personally but let's go with all hell breaking loose Trump rap Tonight, President Trump at a rally in Las Vegas lashing out against Democrats for being too soft on immigration. Because they think immigration is... Being weak on the border which is therefore allowing tremendous crime to come into our country They think that's a good issue for them I don't think being weak on the border, being pathetically weak on the border I do not think that's a good issue The president zero tolerance policy igniting a brewing backlash against some of his staff

22:06 Last night, Press Secretary Sarah Sanders kicked out of this Virginia restaurant while at dinner with family and friends. The owner telling the Washington Post she asked her to leave on moral grounds including separating immigrant families. That was pretty interesting actually how... If you did a little research on the whole thing it actually stems from the gay staff Okay no I didn't know-I didn't realize this Yeah, the gay staff was... Wait a minute. Gays refusing to serve someone? Mind sufficiently blown sir! So the gay staff apparently bitched to- there's two chefs, a man and woman and they could be gay too but bitched them saying that she was there

22:54 And they didn't want to serve to her, although they were serving. They just gave her hors d'oeuvres and stuff but they were complaining to the chef who was running the place at that time And so the chef doesn't know what to do and he can't make a decision, which is always a bad sign. So he calls the owner. The owner drives over to make sure because no one's absolutely positive it was Sarah Sanders and so she comes over and then has a talk with her in the back patio saying that it's against the principles of the restaurant that they you know this whatever they get some song-and-dance and then Senators agreed to leave But yeah, it was the staff that didn't want a server.

23:40 It's into well, you know before you move on before we finish the I'll do it right after this clip is done Is the product of the same legal loopholes that Democrats refuse to close today Sanders tweeting last night? I was told by the owner of Red Hen in Lexington Virginia to leave because I work for POTUS and I politely left Her actions say far more about her than about me. I want a nation to treat every person I have to interject. The funny thing, this was written up in the kind of an interesting publication called Heavy. The staff because it was a gay issue that they were bitching about and it was over Trump's refusal let transgenders in the army So it had nothing to do with the kids in cages? No. And no. This is misreported

24:31 But what, well I think the woman who owned this restaurant used she's the one who introduced that topic. So it wasn't really misreported just was under reported but i was reading this about the complaining about transgenders not being able to serve in the military and I'm thinking When did the Democrats and the every you know be so pro-military they all want to serve and go to war no No, oh stop. Stop stop this is where you're making a Thinking mistake the gays do not like the trans

25:09 They don't like, they're not saying gays in the military. You know? Don't ask don't tell all that no trans they hate trans people In general there is a huge drift between gay men and trans MF or FM doesn't matter which way they're going so of course They're gonna say that it's actually it's actually quite rude and aggressive I just I find the whole thing to be center but let's finish this clip by the owner of Red Hen in Lexington Virginia to leave because I work for POTUS and I politely left her actions say far more about her than about me. I want a nation to treat every person with dignity and compassion and fairness. Her father Mike Huckabee coming to her defense tweeting bigotry on the menu at red hen restaurant in Lexington, Virginia or you can ask for the hate plate and

26:00 appetizers are small plates for small minds. But hours earlier, the former governor posting this tweet saying Nancy Pelosi introduces her campaign committee for the take back of the house. Sanders is not the first member of the administration to face public outrage Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nelson heckled last week at a Mexican restaurant. You can't do it through an executive order. Tonight, inside the White House sources telling ABC News officials are suffering from whiplash blaming White House aide Stephen Miller for pushing the zero tolerance policy I didn't like the sight or feeling of families being separated and now are left scrambling to implement the executive order stopping the separation of families

26:46 And Tara now joins us from the White House. And Tara, sources are telling you members of Congress may have new legislation to fix an issue with the president's executive order? Witt, senior White House and Hill officials tell me that if a larger immigration bill fails to pass in the Congress next week they're preparing a more narrow bill that would allow children to stay with their parents in detention centers for more than 20 days A vote on that bill could come as early as Tuesday night Oh, geez. It's so stupid this whole thing and you were right about the I was thinking that the next outrage would be migrant children drugged without consent and besides the fact that news media can't discuss pharmaceuticals in that manner

27:28 This also really started in 2010, during Obama's years. And there are lawsuits that deal specifically with 2010 and forcibly injecting children with psychotropic drugs. Yeah. Nobody wants to talk about that because it wasn't Trump! We're not going to bring that up. And Kirstjen Nielsen was all... the protesters went to her house And we're in front of her house playing the sound of the crying children and chanting. All this, of course is encouraged by members of Congress. I'm going to put up a list here of Democratic colleagues who have called for the resignation of Kristen Nielsen as Secretary of Homeland Security in light of what we've seen happen over these last few days. Are you going to add your name to those ranks? Do you think she should step aside?

28:18 Oh, absolutely. She should step aside. You know I have no sympathy for these people that are in this administration who you don't know it's wrong what they're doing on so many fronts but they tend to not want to confront this president or even leave but they know what they're doing is wrong and i want to tell you for these members of his cabinet who remain and try to defend him, they're not gonna be able to go a restaurant. They're not gonna be able to stop at a gas station. They're not gonna be able to shop at a department store. The people are going turn on them. They're gonna protest. They're gonna absolutely harass them until they decide that they're gonna tell the president, No I can't hang with you! This is wrong this is unconscionable we can keep doing this to children That's right just go and harass everybody

29:09 Yeah, that's good. That's politics! You don't want to harass everybody at home! Meanwhile Hillary Clinton raised one and a half million dollars to quote help families separated at the border Oh she's a genius Which went all the chip-in organizations Yeah sure But I think it's important because she needed to show that she could still raise money And that's why I think she jumped all over this Right to show hey, I still got it. Yeah because she's still running but I still got it She's gonna run again. I don't that the Democrats have gotten nobody now here's a music clip This is the weird after Trump Trump signed off on and then in this particular clip Which may have been even a local clip But whatever I made was networked but it had cake Kamala Harris Kamala Harris Kamala depends on what part of state you're from who's our senator who wants to be the next president and

30:07 She's the black woman. She's not that bright and she says what she says in this particular clip, she comes out and says as it is going to disqualify her. She's never even gonna get nominated but This is again everybody going, Trump signed off so they ended the whole thing. But no no everyone's still going nuts The immigration controversy has ignited not only protests but also efforts to help migrant families at the center of the crisis Here's Carter Evans Protesters flocked to the federal building in Los Angeles today to donate toys to children who were ripped from their parents at the border. It's a pretty overwhelming response On Friday night they rallied outside the federal jail downtown where detainees have been housed

30:53 About 100 separated children are believed to be somewhere in the city. In San Diego, protests continue downtown an effort to pressure the Trump administration to reverse its zero tolerance immigration policy. Along the border yesterday, Senator Kamala Harris visited a detention center where immigrants are being held. These mothers have shared their stories, their personal stories that are a story of human rights abuse being committed by the United States government Back at the rally in LA, Maria Vazquez says she knows what the children are going through. You left your family in Guatemala you spent months in detention you now have been granted asylum is it all worth it? Yes! It's all worth it and I'm not

31:42 one of the person that Trump thinks I am. This group is now planning to bring its protests to the border and deliver the toys they've collected to one of the detention centers Meanwhile, California state regulators are beginning inspections of those facilities Elaine Carter Evans thank you A large number of migrants are trying to escape poverty and violence in this Central American country of El Salvador Omar Villafranca is there with a story Okay, you can kill that So I the more. I'm watching this I get to keep getting there a sense because of a clip We played the last show that there's some cover-up going on of something else well began during their bomb administration Well, I have a thought about that it not necessarily a cover up But there is a real issue The Office of Refugee and Resettlement I think it is our RR

32:39 You know, they have about one and a half billion dollars in contracts that are written out to mainly—and you've seen a lot of them in news reporting—to religious groups. Churches. That's why you see clergy showing up talking about oh this can't be because, you know, a lot of this is all commercial business so yeah we got to stop it cause an outrage but it will come at the expense everybody we hooked With these, you know it's $300-$500 a night and fees for taking care of the refugees, resettling them. They're the ones by the way that... I think this is part of a bigger scam! Yes we've talked about this specifically. No no actually brought it up some time back

33:24 And I was hearing this other stuff, and this is the clip. The next clip I want to play it's a short clip but it reminds me of the clip that we played on the last show about eight months ago about the kid from Guatemala that was in a foster home and then they... And then they brought him back. Now, they ship him back to Guatemala to his other family and it was he was really settled in and then I heard this clip and I got very now i'm getting very skeptical here This is the immigration kid at NYC But there are still more than 1800 at other agencies separated from their parents

34:00 Among them, 8-year old Danny. He's in New York. His mother being detained in El Paso facing charges after crossing the border illegally his aunt Nila Serrano trying to reunite them. El Paso processing center has not responded we've already bought the bus tickets ticket, ready to go. She is not even aware that she's not coming home." The fog of uncertainty fueling frustration and calls for expedited reunions like this one in Baltimore Friday others who've been deported like these families in Honduras taking solace in seeing their loved ones while in Texas buses drop off young mothers and their children at this station daily they wear ankle monitors as they wait for word on their asylum cases and a nationwide debate rages on

34:43 Uh-huh. Now what I'm thinking here, they were detained in El Paso and now all of a sudden the kid's in New York? Yes Now how do they get shuffled off to New York like overnight? This seems like child thievery. And they're all ending up in these foster homes and various systems that are getting government money, and you get paid per head. Yes! Per night or per day. Per head, per night. So you're getting money... I mean this seems like they're just stealing these kids on purpose then this isn't something Trump started. There ya go I'll repeat the number, John. 1.5 billion dollars a year for these organizations who took these as you call them kids they were 18 19 year old dudes look like but okay maybe there's 16 17 these were boys even men young men

35:30 with ankle monitors. The ankle monitor is not from ICE, it's not from Department of Homeland Security It's from these organizations who are shuttling the kids putting them in these different places Remember that Obama specifically wanted to bring a lot of Syrians to Detroit I mean this placement program has been in place for awhile now and 1.5 billion dollars That's a lot of money Yeah, that's a hell of a lot of money. Yeah and so especially for cronies So this is nothing new and then you just the only reason has gotten so much attention recently because of this Because one thing they wanted to get Miller Who was always? You know a target I mean gobbles gobbles And they and and they started this no

36:18 I guess what's it? No, you can't make any mistakes. What's it called a zero policy which makes everybody have to get into the system instead of just the select ones that they would have this shuffle around like that guy would suspect that kid from Guatemala and then this kid in New York but the fact is there's a kid in New York and a mom El Paso, how did the kid get to New York? Why is he in New York? How is this the same as putting the kids in cages that's not the same at all. This is some underlying scam that has been going on for quite some time." So the data I have here is ORR... Huh! ORR is not a government agency. ORR is just a non-profit who

37:07 receives funding from the government and they award about an average of 1.4 billion per year since 2002 it has 26 immigrant shelters that it runs, the ones we've seen on the news The Walmart Supercenter in Brownsville It's about $256 dollars per night per person is what they get But this is a very well-established, big network. And yeah... You said they're stealing babies, they're stealing children It's interesting you put it that way because who knows what these guys are doing? What's the oversight? Who has oversighted it? Who has been looking at them at all? Maybe they're, you know, you say cover up Yeah maybe they're all scrambling Oh shit we didn't track these kids I knew we forgot something

38:04 I mean, it doesn't sound like a human trafficking at the base. Yeah, yeah does well maybe will come out? I don't know but it seems like I think you're on flat footed because I think this corruption is deep into the all these systems that have been in place since...I don't know they may have begun before Obama. It could've been Bush probably but you don't know Abuses at any border is not something new for any administration, I would say. But luckily we had the celebrities out in force and entertainment tonight to sum it all up, tell us how we should think. Stars are speaking out on President Donald Trump's controversial zero tolerance immigration policy that has resulted in a reported 2,000 children being separated from their parents at the US-Mexico border during a six week period in April and May

38:59 Chrissy Teigen and John Legend were two of the first celebs to voice their outrage, penning a letter they shared via Instagram on the president's birthday last week. Quote, John and I are outraged to see and hear the horror stories of immigrant families seeking asylum and refuge in America being ripped apart due to the inhumane policies of the Trump administration. Sarah Barielis also took to social media tweeting quote this is beyond inhumane. On Father's Day, Anne Hathaway captioned this shot, My dad and I are disgusted and rock to our core by the current administration's shocking decision to separate asylum seeking immigrant families, the consequence of which is creating orphans with living parents

39:47 Sophia Bush encouraged her followers to take action, tweeting call your senators. Meanwhile Jimmy Kimmel wrote quote I hope that our president and his minions remember that children should be with their parents not in detention centers Reese Witherspoon called the policy cruel and immoral and deplorable. Alyssa Milano said, The fight for humanity is on. And Ellen DeGeneres tweeted I don't care what your politics are we can't be a country that separates children from their parents So that just kind of fueled more more outrage Just everyone all pissed off just on the social nets. Just yelling yelling at each other on television I got one final one from MSNBC This is Peter Emerson who tried to bring in a

40:38 the Hitler meme and it kind of screwed it up. Peter, I want to get your reaction to a tweet by President Trump yesterday he wrote we must maintain strong southern border We cannot allow our country to be overrun by illegal immigrants as the Democrats tell their phony stories of sadness and grief hoping it will help them in the elections Obama and others had the same pictures and did nothing about it I don't know where to begin. First of all, they were not the same people. I don't know where to begin! Well you know it's true but okay. What is your response? Well it's the response that anyone who has read history would give That is you have to begin the process of turning people into animals by dehumanizing

41:24 Dehumanizing. You see, he's trying to say you got it like the Jews the Jews are subhuman they're animals That's what he was trying to say when he got messed up there. Yeah we choked yeah What did not help and this was very curious to me is Melania Trump's jacket And so she wore this jacket The biggest offense quite honestly is it was a Zara jacket from last season I mean please that Was insulting But it said, I really don't care. Do you on the back? And it was to me...I think you could see that in two ways and the minute the news hit, I ran off to the social nets to take a look and indeed, large portion of people thinking doesn't care about fake news mainstream media, large portion of people saying doesn't care about the children they literally read it that way. Sure

42:21 That's a classic dementia, dementia B break. Now the crazy thing about it is that her spokeshole said no no there's no message see that was the mistake but no there isn't there's no message and then the president comes out later in tweets oh is clearly a message towards the fake news media so they're you know they got to coordinate. They stepped in it. But what this can only end one way violence Someone's gonna get that's what by Rush Limbaugh says that someone's gonna get shot again Rush limbaugh has been saying that for over a week That there and he's blaming the mainstream media because they're the ones that are fanning the flames By running all these stories. I could be just as easily ignored They're not dead, you know it's not like his breaking news she wore a jacket

43:15 And they're just looking for trouble and they're looking to get stuff. Yeah, it's gonna be violent somebody's gonna get shot so there they are fueling it but what's happening with the social the soc nets that's where people are losing really losing their minds and I have two short clips one about the social nets in general then one about Trump which and I didn't play these on the last show because we had the piece of interview from Jaron Lanier Who wrote the book about you have to delete. Now he says something really interesting here that I hadn't considered about the algorithms of social media and how, and why

43:56 People are going insane when they take to Twitter. So you have the machine, the machine is 24-7 it's the news networks It's the news programs its print You know it's a time magazine cover with the child who was never separated from her mother which activates a whole different group of people but the algorithms do something which I hadn't considered and that explains Why we're in the trouble we're in today? In traditional behaviorism, you would give an animal or a person a little treat like candy or maybe electric shock and go back-and-forth between positive and negative feedback. And when researchers try to determine whether positivity or negativity is more powerful they are roughly at parity – they are both important

44:39 But the difference with social media is that the algorithms that are following you respond very quickly. They're looking for the quick responses, and the negative responses like getting startled or scared or irritated or angry tend to rise faster than the positive responses like building trust. or feeling good, those things rise more slowly. So the algorithms naturally catch the negativity and amplify it and introduce negative people to each other in all of this. And so what this does is it means that the algorithms discover there's more engagement possible say by promoting ISIS than promoting the Arab Spring and so ISIS gets more mileage

45:22 or promoting the Ku Klux Klan than Black Lives Matter. Now, in the big picture it's not true that negativity is more powerful but if you're doing this very rapid measurement of human impulses instead of accumulated human behavior then it's the negativity that gets amplified so you tend to have elections that are more driven by rancor and abuse and you tend to have outcomes that are kind of crazy I hadn't considered that the algorithm would catch the negative engagement, not recognize... well whether it recognized. Of course it knows that its negative because it goes and looks for more of it It has no opinion in if thats good or bad You don't buy it? I'm not buying any of that What he said is total bullshit Why? I dont believe there's an algorithm that does that Oh! Its a very simple algorithm

46:14 Of course, if you're responding back and forth and it sees this It's just gonna find more people to surface in your feed that have similar opinions with people like you Or opposed to people like you. I see that That is the core of what is actually does. It's not much smarter than that Which is why the advertising sucks Because that's the level of it. It's very basic This a very basic script to make this run Yeah, and I know what you're saying. I know you could keep saying I'm still not buying it Yeah You just not providing an argument as to why it's not happening Well that so you don't have to provide an argument why is that happening? Oh, that's silly all right. I'm sorry jeez What kind of argument is that see it's like this like saying yes It's not raining in here right now sexy sunny a 90 will really prove it yeah But this isn't this is more subjective

47:09 It just makes it worse. I don't have to provide an argument that it's not happening Okay, well, I think it is happening. I really do and I think you have to provide the argument that it Is happening in the argument is just linears The arguments on it And your I know you've said some of you may have more experience than you can throw that my face You should have but didn't you just cut me off? I was about to do it. I was about to do it You wouldn't let me wouldn't let me come I beat you to it Yeah But I don't see that on Twitter. Oh my god Totally. You sign up for the people that you want to follow, they don't throw it in your face. That's wrong! Do you ever look at your feed? Just your regular feed? That's not true. That feed is manipulated are you kidding me?!

47:52 What do you mean my regular feed? So if you go to Twitter, just your regular home Twitter not your mentions but just home. Yeah You're seeing things are being inserted there from people you do not follow and it's inserted from People favoriting tweets that you do follow oh this is what- Do you even know how this works?! I know how it works and i'm not seeing what he says, which is a compounding of the negative. You also do not engage like other people are engaging you don't tweet back and forth with people! There's no reason to get into a silly argument on twitter... Which is why you have no algorithmic engagement

48:36 It's nice to think that you can be so paranoid as to think that this is all the problem. I'm not paranoid! But I know was linear is he's not paranoid his book. Well, he's selling a book that has nothing to do with paranoia No, it just I'm just saying that I'm nuts. I know You can say until the cows come home. I'm not seeing that that's a Dvorak trick there is no evidence up sure That's your trick You're not seeing it. It's a funny way, I just cool that you would put it that way. I think that's an interesting sleight of hand to say is the Dvorak trick but just the way feel about it now let me give you an example here's what happened I was listening had them got them you saw the Tracy Ullman clip yes

49:24 Of course. I have a copy of it here, it's short but she does this and I think we should play it but I played it and said that I thought was ironic that even though apparently I don't ever say anything on Twitter I said it was ironic that this was being promoted by Corden at least as where I got it because it was retweeted by James Corden yeah well that's kind of like I'm English therefore hang out with real English comedians Something like that. So Corden plays this, yeah well there's that's probably the real element but Corden plays played it proudly and I said this is ironic because he's the kind of people that are sitting around doing this exact thing or they're kind of guests that he has an encourages And so some guy tweets me, I blocked him after this by the way Another reason why the algos don't kick in for you He says

50:21 Wow, whoosh right over your head. Oh Because is there some bigger joke that we didn't get no and there's not but he think but he's dementia So he saw a bigger joke geez And we can play the clip and I'll tell you what he thought the bigger joke was, and why it really makes all the difference. The rest of it is just kind of a cover for the real joke. This support group is for people who are so woke that they're finding it impossible to have any fun at all. I should probably put into context Tracy Ullman is acting as if she's leader of a group similar to AA

51:03 You know you're sitting in a semi in a circle and you're all sharing and talking about your issues on this one particular topic We have somebody new with us last week. So would you like to introduce yourself? Hi, I'm Oscar I think like a lot of you guys for me it started with the little things signing online petition going into a March well I mean before I knew I was I was writing to the Guardian about LGBT representation in the Harry Potter books. Which is shocking, by the way! Alright Lily we've all read your blog and don't worry Oscar you've come to the right place All of the young people in this room are ruining their lives by being overly virtuous That's actually a microaggression to say young people because it carries subconscious bias towards the elderly Actually what you're doing is denying agency to the elderly which is arguably much worse This is what I'm talking about You see its a slippery slope

51:53 One minute you're carrying a reusable water bottle, fine. And the next minute you're arguing that water is racist? Oh my God! Is water racist?! No no it's just an example Right how did you guys get on with the homework that I set you Guys isn't especially inclusive term Not now Jamie By homework do you mean having to watch that old people sitcom It's called Friends Lily and you were supposed to watch it and enjoy it Well I tried but I found it deeply problematic Why? Well, there's the homophobia, the transphobia, the fatism and the slut-shaming. And could Chandler be any more annoying?! You can't go through your 20s worrying about every aspect of everything! You have to pick your battles and just remember that it doesn't really matter because by the time you hit your 30s most of you are going to be massively right wing anyway Have any of you started to think that maybe poor people don't deserve benefits? No... Well watch out for that one because that's how it starts

52:48 Look, I understand this has all been a bit much for some of you. So let's take five and have a hobnob. I find the word hobnob very phallocentric. Fuck off Jamie Good old Tracy now the Second richest comedian in show business after Jerry Seinfeld Oh, I think she's got much more money than Seinfeld. You think? Because Simpsons right? She pretty much owns a piece of the Simpsons. For people who don't know Tracy Ullman when she did the Tracy Ullman show on Network ABC maybe It was Fox! Oh it was Fox. She had a deal that anyone who wanted to develop a skit or a bit if they took it to another level in other words developed and made it into a show she would get like 2-5% of it

53:32 Yeah. And the Simpsons came out of it! Give me 2% of The Simpsons, holy crap... So she ended up well besides being a never-ending bonanza yeah she and all the residuals but I think she really racked it up I think she went way beyond Seinfeld Really? That's possible. Now that I think about it because all different languages are so easy to do yes you should be in there in the billion dollar range I met her once when she was still doing, she went from comedian to singing career. Oh yeah well I always love to meet her, seems like she's very funny. She is incredibly kind but even then and I was 19 and I think she must have been probably 9 or 10 years older than I am and she was very nice at one of my first TV shows

54:24 Well, anyway back to this bit where she says you're all going to become right wingers when you're 30 because you're gonna think that the people shouldn't be getting a stipend. That is the according to this guy that's what I didn't get because that's what it's really all about And that's taking it a bit far. Yeah, because it wasn't a criticism of these idiots. It was a criticism of people who do you know all the sudden don't think that the elderly should get a stipend and they're creeps and so I'm thinking when I went looked at his feet now are the guys just unbelievable. You blocked him?

55:08 Yeah, blocked him. Now do you ever just a question on the blocking since you know since you've successfully controlled your algos to not engage you Do you tweet back to somebody first when you say like hashtag blocked? Do you wait before actually blocking them to make sure they can see it Cause I do. I've thought about that. If you remove that person's tweet, then I don't know where mine goes. So I put blocked for an hour. What I used to do was type in blocked and then block them but then I said wait a minute they don't even know this so why would I even do hashtag blocked? Then I evolved into putting hashtag blocked and not blocking them

54:24 Well, anyway back to this bit where she says you're all going to become right wingers when you're 30 because you're gonna think that the people shouldn't be getting a stipend. That is the according to this guy that's what I didn't get because that's what it's really all about And that's taking it a bit far. Yeah, because it wasn't a criticism of these idiots. It was a criticism of people who do you know all the sudden don't think that the elderly should get a stipend and they're creeps and so I'm thinking when I went looked at his feet now are the guys just unbelievable. You blocked him?

55:08 Yeah, blocked him. Now do you ever just a question on the blocking since you know since you've successfully controlled your algos to not engage you Do you tweet back to somebody first when you say like hashtag blocked? Do you wait before actually blocking them to make sure they can see it Cause I do. I've thought about that. If you remove that person's tweet, then I don't know where mine goes. So I put blocked for an hour. What I used to do was type in blocked and then block them but then I said wait a minute they don't even know this so why would I even do hashtag blocked? Then I evolved into putting hashtag blocked and not blocking them

55:51 Just like that's good, too. That's a good way. That's confusing and yes And then the Nan when I block people now just block him I don't even care about feedback or letting them know I don't care what there is to make that's every path Don't even notice okay? so The second clip from Jared Lanier is about Trump and the Algos. So much untrustworthy and a bit of a showman and a bit of a scammer. He never lost himself, he became so strangely insecure

56:41 irritable until he had his own addiction, in this case to Twitter. And it's really damaged him I mean...I view Trump in a way as a victim. Oh yeah absolutely! His character has been really damaged by his Twitter addiction because of the reaction he gets from each tweet? Yeah so you know what happens in addiction is the addict becomes hooked not just on the good part of the addiction experience, but on the whole cycle. So a gambler is not just addicted to winning but this whole process where they mostly lose and in the same way the Twitter addict or social media addict becomes addicted to this engagement which is often unpleasant

57:20 where they're engaged in these, you know really abusive exchanges with other human beings and only once in a while is that You know you can watch Trump like every once in awhile there will be this tweet where somebody likes him And that's when he gets his little we call it in the trade the dopamine hit That's what it's called on Facebook for instance. He gets this little dopamine hit and then he dives in for more Negativity and things then he gets it again, and you can see the addiction playing out I like that he called Trump a victim of Twitter addiction. It's it's interesting. I mean the guys amusing at this level and to say in the trade we call it this like well What was talking about if you saw the whole interview in context? Then you know because he kind of goes back to the history of how this developed and particularly Facebook Which came from a different place than Twitter, I'll give you that but Facebook came from rating people's faces and being rated so

58:23 Zuckerberg trying to get a date. Yeah, but along the way in In their industry whatever he said they figured out that oh wait a minute We can give people a dopamine hit by By letting them have likes I don't think they figured it out. I think that it just happened naturally Yes It wasn't a plot no it was not a plot but once once it happened they're like Oh shit This is working yeah No, there's no doubt about it. They took advantage of it that's for sure. Okay so I'm not gonna deny that but my I'm not going to blame the social networks for all the problems that we have. I think it's a good as good as any rationale but it does increase the speed at which people

59:09 Get irked and go crazy. Yes about it, and all I'm saying is I increase There's a high likelihood that that is being tweaked and not not even purposely for For evil just to keep people engaged this is the word Engagement how do you keep them engaged by giving people what they what they want? What are they wanting the stuff They're looking at alright give him more of that now we want it now yeah That's exactly it but with that I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C. UNSC stands for Can't See The Algos, Dvorak! I'm not looking! John C. Dvorak here and i don't believe there's algos! In the morning to y'all the ships of sea boats on the ground subs in the water dames and knights yeah in the morning everyone in the troll room how y'all doing

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1:20:45 Donald Richards in Cortland, Virginia also 333. What? I'm just reading his note a new international version Psalms 137 dot 9 happy as the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks preach very good Charles Couch, and now we can drop to associate executive producers. I want to thank all the people that gave us 333 and 333-33 to celebrate our... To celebrate the continuation of this great show. Charles Couch 238, getting a couple things in there donating from the airport my gate was c33

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1:22:30 All right, now we have an issue here with Richard Unterberger. He's in M House, Pennsylvania. 222-22. Now he was the executive producer on the last show was he not? Yes! Ah okay But we read the wrong note or there was a note... Ohhhh we screwed it up There were a bunch of... Well I had one job One job! Now i'm gonna look at this note and imma look at the email he sent and see if they're identical appears to be I don't know. Yeah, I think it is so I can just read okay well no it's not quite the same I'll read from that email.

1:23:17 Drunk donation during a marathon of cornhole, by the way. So I'm watching...I'm flipping around on the Sling TV network and there's ESPN. It says it's going to be softball or no World Series College World Series and instead it was the finals or near the finals of the Cornhole Championship National. You know, I had never heard of cornhole until I moved to Texas And it's kind of a national pastime here. Well, but if you come from the Beavis and Butthead era You got a whole different bias. It means something else now So I'm watching this is actually fascinating There's the two guys in the finals one was gonna go into losers round first double end of elimination people know what that means so I'm sitting here watching it and Jay my daughter comes in she's just what are you doing? I said watch yeah, yes, he ever heard a cornhole She says yeah as a game to which she says immediately mm-hmm And I saw well here's the championship

1:24:18 And she sits down and she looks at this thing. Now these two guys are from a distance, are nailing it and they're doing blocks and there's two sides to the bag and one of them sticks in one goes in and they did something called air mail where you just throw it from a distance go straight into the hole he tried to block the other guys It's actually kind of worth watching for awhile Is is on the level of curling? It's faster. Okay, so fast it's like curling and insofar as the idiosyncrasies are concerned but it's a faster paced game I mean they really rock because well curling that the attraction of curling is hot chicks who yell Well that's that's different. Okay? I suppose anyway So these guys are just killing it So it's astonishing most of them by the way if you're gonna play this game You don't know how to plate you should watch these pros play it Because most of the shots are before the hole and they slides into the hole

1:25:15 90% of the hole shots are from the sliding in as opposed to straight air mailing it. They're totally other ones I prefer my air mailing technique when I'm corn holing, and I'll bet you are do now So Jason's down and watch for about five minutes she goes huh? Interesting yeah, they really packed him in big audience there's like 40 people in the stands watching these two guys The championship, okay. I'm glad you got that out of your system. Someone's getting cornhole today. Sounds like a recipe for success to me

1:25:51 So I'm guessing that Richard in the note was watching the same thing. But he says, drunk donation during a marathon of corn hold odd last week's note didn't go well and so here him to give what I can during the time of scant support. I'd like to ask for a douche bag de-douching. You've been de-douched. That really got covered last weekend by another donors note attributed to me my fellow as I read you know I read it wrong notes yeah it has a wrong is a mistake I made that's me it happens on me Yeah, my fellow you know you should say my bad man and you know what I think about that. You despise it? I do. You really don't like people's my bad My bad my bad my bad my bad my bad my bad when my dad did you tell me why don't you just say

1:26:37 Eat shit, because that's what you're saying when you say my bad. Really? It doesn't even sound like it! No it's a way of taking responsibility without feeling sorry. It's the modern day equivalent of- Yes, it is a funny way to take responsibility and sincere. Yes, it's the modern day equivalent of I apologize. Doesn't mean your sorry My fellow producers really need to step it up with the show's been excellent recently. We all benefit greatly from the wisdom and experience of John and Adam because we're older, and the top-notch NOAA Gen Ed community as a whole because they're great Step it up. Step it up people Can I please get a relationship karma as I recently lost the second love of my life much like the first to the opioid epidemic She's not dead just gone Oh, man That's terrible Yeah, can I please gets in that we have a little piece on that after this is over? can I please get sincere junkie karma for my ex to become a healthy person and not kill herself or

1:27:34 I know it's a lot to ask for, but can I please get a tiny project car karma for my second Honda Beat? Did you see the picture of this was that in an email? It's gorgeous. Great little card and it's pretty little three cylinder hot looking sports car. I'd like to have one of those they're not allowed in this country or something. Hey girls! Hey baby wanna ride into my Honda beat I have been busy tracking down and importing parts for in Japan. For in Japan is what he says besides you guys has been a cornerstone to my sanity during the difficult time, I don't know what karma would sound like but I trust Adam to pull off something thank you for all you guys do and know you are doing an incredible thing and we all need you guys." Thank you very much okay double one for ya

1:28:27 You've got karma. You've got... That should do it! Now he is Sir Chard of the tiny cars Of tiny cars, not just of tiny cars Anonymous in Phoenix Arizona $207 and 46 cents Call me some guy from Phoenix if you want By the way relationship karma seems to be working Maybe a request for more? I'm within earshot of knighthood looking forward to being part of the roundtable. Let me give him some more relationship karma then here you go You've got karma Top spin on that relationship Karma for him sir Johnny the swamp night in Washington DC 202 Washington, D C is the best we can do

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1:30:06 Which is why you see the shameful harassing of public officials I humbly ask for a dealer's choice of Reverend Manning jingles love and light sir Johnny this one night Okay, that's a show of money shot You've got karma love the red Why didn't that guy get a show on MSNBC? Politics are wrong. Sean McClellan, $200 and 33 cents. I enjoy the unique perspective of your media deconstruction. Keep it up! To all the producers out there please donate and do it right now. You, you... yes you! I do have a couple questions. One... Now this is very interesting question number one is something I was going to call for in second half of show segment

1:31:01 Because we have a donor, I believe in night if not of higher period. He's the fire bottles baron There you go Baron Who always sends his donation notes on the Federation of Planets letterhead and the first question that Sean has is I'd love to know The story behind the letters that come in on the Federation of planets letterhead It's mentioned often but I didn't catch the origins and details behind it I've never actually seen the letterhead because it always comes into the PO box You see them And I am going to put a copy of one of the letters from the, uh, from the Federation. Now what it is called The Federation Of Planets? It says The Federation Of Planets. It's an official... and it has a logo? It's the logo of the Star Trek Federation, the whole thing so it must be real. Wait, Star Trek Federation?!

1:31:54 Yeah, what do you think it I thought that was the real deal. No this is not Star Wars its Star Trek You said Star Trek? I know but okay so this is not the Real Federation of Planets letterhead It's just a star trek federation of planets letterhead. No this is the star treks federation of planets is real Okay at least we're on the same track good So there's very small compact piece of paper because in the future They can't afford eight and a half by 11, chews up too many trees. So all the papers shrunk I'll send, next time one comes in. I don't have one handy if i find one just by accident or run it the news. It will be on the newsletter so stay tuned anyway number two I plan on getting my technician license next month just start studying a couple of days ago what are the details behind the 7373 donation in relation to ham radio? Oh okay that won't be in your test but it is good to know there's a number of codes and that you use

1:32:57 And you've heard of QSL, QTH. You probably heard those terms but then we have two numbers in particular 73 and 88 and 73 stands for hugs and kisses No! 73 is greetings and 88's is for hugs and kisses Yeah So hams commonly say 73 to each other 73 OM which stands for old man 73's OM Yeah, 73 is OM to you. At last Jesse Alvey hit me in the mouth he continues with his note some time ago but has never donated please call him out and call out his brother Ethan NJNK please add me to the birthday list He's on the birthday list? I don't believe so Yes yes he is It's his fourth annual 33rd birthday Well he's from the Federation of Planets

1:33:57 We don't have letterhead to prove it. Sir Upper Decker, $200. Hey sir upper decker I haven't heard from him for a while. Haven't heard from sir upper decker forever. Sneaking in with the donation between diaper payments which are expensive Need deal-making karma to make it back before my babies are us Card is do babies are us babies. Are us it's been a while since you've been to one of them, but I was never Babies are us came after way later yeah no Christina was born when babies or us was and its heyday oh

1:34:38 And we never bought I went into a baby's or us and I thought that I was saying, you know Baby got a baby. No, they got some with there was no babies for sale You got one that's already potted or what kind of babies? He got I'd say get nothing It's a joke so just a misleading name for store Yes Stephen Cheshire, $200 from the UK. Hi John and Adam a note for this show for this donation sent by email 75 R-bababop that's his email address let me go look you might as well look too I am looking okay let me do it I can do it I hate Outlook

1:35:21 You using Outlook? Yeah, well it has some form of a database and then you can search in the database. But if you ever... whenever you do a... It's kind of hard to explain If you enter a search term and then you click in one like last month or today And I click on it Then the search term changes to something else Its busted! It's piece of shit Horrible This must be it This is show 10 free since its for 1044, its 1045 He's off his show Oops, I just know no get back to that Steve and he writes hi John and Adam was just longtime listener from Bristol in the UK where we're trying to overdo another donation We did donate a couple years back but never put a mention on the show. He listen to your show every week It's twice a week And now have found it became our main news feed as we find it

1:36:23 the only source of credible news nowadays. We enjoy, after listening to your deconstruction of events how the same stories are being reported many times we report days in advance as some of the ones you'll hear over here in the UK it makes us laugh but sometimes scream and cry especially the stories about Trump yeah they hate Trump over there We were over in California in April, May this year on a holiday and I had to say what a beautiful place. Apart from San Francisco if only we had remembered our poop map

1:36:59 Well, we were over there. We never met anyone who had a half-decent word to say about Trump—not one! So all we could take from that is that your news networks are certainly doing a good job on that front. Keep feeding the slaves! For your excellent work and hours of entertainment you provide please find our donation of $265 for this week's show came in as 200 In which I want to give the producer credit to my lovely wife Sharon We have to remember to do that as it is her birthday today. Do we have that? No Oh, no, I don't think we do. I don't see how we could know Okay, so tell me this is Steve wants to wish his wife Sharon a happy birth 47th birthday today Which I don't know when this was what's-her name? What's-her name?

1:37:53 Just Sharon. Sharon 47 today, OK? Please wish her happy birthday and send her a MILF jingle for and for not donating for so long even though she has been on my back to get with it please give me a douche bag and then a deducing. OK. You've been Deduced. That's one mother I'd like to f- You've got karma.

1:38:32 Alright, onward. I think that does it. That's it you're right Stephen Cheshire is our last donor well I want to thank... That was good John! I'm glad you reminded a whole bunch of people who hadn't donated in over a year that's how the newsletter works. I find interesting when they all come out of the woodwork at once something triggered them and Whatever was I'm proud of myself. Whatever triggered him, you should be proud of yourself! The problem is that I don't know what I did. Space Force! We thank everybody who supported us our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1045 we'll be thanking more people who came in $50 and above in the second donation segment

1:39:15 And please remember we've got another show coming up on Thursday plenty to deconstruct. We thank you for making it all possible Remember us at the vorac org Boy, we've learned a lot a lot to deconstruct a lots of propagate in our formula Our formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth Boo-doo boo I get a couple of quickies Some comebacks from my OTG phone.

1:39:57 I got a little list. OTG then you want to give us the little history of the podcasting thing? Sure, but first I'll read this note...I think this is Mike Kilo Charlie 7 tango whiskey whiskey glad you're liking The New Hearing Aids yes I am liking The New Hearing Aids but i won't bore you with any information today but I have another appointment this week and so on have an update maybe my commander had the ones like you were talking about and loved that he could focus the listening in one direction it helped at meetings true Anyway, it was just listening to Thursday's show and the segment on the Zen TV experiment. I finally figured something out in the office... ...I work- In the office I work in my iPhone doesn't get a connection to the outside world. I work for a DoD agency so this is either a coincidence or by design anyway for the first couple of weeks I'm newish to the job I found myself checking my phone and getting upset that there was nothing happening with it no emails No notifications! No social updates etc

1:40:51 And now I know why. I was programmed to look at my phone when i was bored and I was upset when I didn't get my entertainment! I've just started to leave my phone in my car during the work, and I feel much better. I often forget it's there till after I get home Thanks for filling me in on what was causing me so much angst you guys are invaluable Well there ya go Yeah It's true And I'm gonna be, uh...I put an order in for a...well i can't. It went on pre-order in the UK and many of the European Union states that Nokia 810? 8110 4G? Yeah. Ooh! Yeah so it's a feature...it's a... Oh that's nice, a 4G phone Yes yes there is only one other 4g feature phone which means its not a smartphone and that is

1:41:39 Was the a AP a x what is this fine for which? Well, so this this is a really look at now This has got me intrigued you're like because I have one of the old nokia's that are there with the chrome back or right on it, right But so this is where G. Is that this is the 8110 It's the banana phone as made famous in The Matrix The one with a slide that pops down So they remade that and they did it with 4G which is going to be necessary because 3g is being turned off everywhere. To make room for 5G. It's gonna kill us all! Our DNA will be ripped to shreds but boy we'll have great connectivity

1:42:19 It runs the KaiOS KAI, which is a fork of Android and it has no apps. It has what you know? It has like bookmarklets on the screen so it has the Opera browser in fact we get a yellow one Yeah Yellow or charcoal I think 79 bucks I think is what its gonna go for And you have a browser You got your text messaging they've done the text messaging right So it looks like a chat I haven't... I can't find one for less than 150 Well, it shouldn't be on sale at all yet. It's only on sale in the UK Nokia 810 banana phone 4g for GB 512 MB Ram 2 point four inches two megapixel smart this is smartphone 49 you don't know what they're talking about no there's an eight That it was 79 pounds But I think 150 look it's not available in the US yet It shouldn't be so July fourth I think is when they start selling it and up in the rest of the world but I think that could have legs

1:43:16 You know especially the floor doesn't show with legs. It just yeah So funny you so funny anyway, so when I have that phone which will also look very weird to people who? Who are familiar with seeing the black mirror here are some of the comebacks? Are you ready okay? Now you want to do the surprised voice each time so I can okay? I'll do this surprise voice in a different. I'll try to vary it Yeah, mix it up a bit there we go Hey, hi. Hi Adam. Hey! Oh hey hey what is that? Now you see you knew my name so that doesn't work You have to be a complete stranger So I have to be a stranger Yeah your serving in the restaurant Well i think a person knows he could do this but okay well ill be a waiter Yes hello my name's Bill Holy moly what is that?! oh thats the same phone Jimmy Hendrix used when he was with The Beatles

1:44:20 Who's Jimi Hendrix? Okay, we'll try another one. I'll be another way a different waiter Hi! I'm here to take your order Oh my god what is that?! That that's the free phone that came with my Airstream What's in Airstream? One more How many more you got here? I got three more Okay i'll be another wait well just be somebody walking down the street get the phone there

1:44:55 Hey man, what's that there? This my friend still works with the old MTV. Okay... They're not that good I guess and the final one is My dog ate my iPhone and died every time i see a smartphone i think of poor Biffy Like that one yeah, you see if you can even deliver it I can't I can't I'll stumble on biffy no doubt about it It was interesting to see just in the in the off-the-grid OTG Cisco has announced. It's going to buy July systems and

1:45:37 A startup that uses Wi-Fi to gather insights about visitor behavior in physical spaces like malls, stadiums and airports. Now Cisco is already partnered with July's system so they're scaling this up. And I'd say 45 million it's a good deal now where that's what they're valued at but you know that that's you know with Cisco they're kind of instrumental in the infrastructure of the internet what are they doing? You got me you know what is worried about Huawei Yeah, are you worried about Huawei no they are everybody yes. I'm not yeah, I don't care Huawei Huawei Yes

1:46:23 So I have a couple of interesting, well no let me save these. I'll save them for later in the show if they come up. What else? I do have the Purdue Pharma thing which is talking about the addiction you brought addiction up and we had one of our producers- Is this about the lawsuit? Yeah but it's got some other stuff in it. They did an interview on one of the networks, I think was CBS Yeah, it was CBS. And they interviewed one of the sales people for Purdue this I didn't realize that this OxyContin thing They're actually blaming this one company for the whole opioid crisis Somebody's got to go down This began this was did she worked from between 2001 and 2007 or something? It was this was going on

1:47:04 This has been really going, these guys must have made billions. Let's play this. It's the family right? Isn't it one family who owns Purdue? It's just horrible. I think it was just a big charade. Carol Parnara says she joined that charade in 2008 as an Oxycontin salesperson for Purdue Pharma. So bottom line sell as much as you can. Sell as much as you can To what end? to making money to making money. Just a year earlier, Purdue had admitted it falsely promoted OxyContin as less addictive by among other means claiming the drugs slow release formula did not cause a buzz or euphoria The company said the misstatements ended in 2001

1:47:47 But amid a widening addiction epidemic, Panera claims the company taught her to tell doctors that some patients might only appear to be addicted. In training she was given a term for this... pseudo-addiction Did this concept of pseudo addiction come with studies backing it up? Wow. We had no studies, we actually did not have any studies that's the thing that was kind of disturbing was that we didn't have studies to present to the doctors You know how that sounds I know i was naive A 2015 study published in Current Addiction Reports found No empirical evidence to support pseudo addiction as a diagnosis

1:48:28 In a statement to CBS News, Perdue said it is confident that OxyContin sales have been consistent with the information contained in the FDA approved label. But the word pseudo addiction doesn't appear on OxyContin's label. And a spokesperson for the FDA said the labeling is not intended as a discussion of pseudo addiction I reject any notion that there are sides behind pseudo addiction Oklahoma Attorney General Mike Hunter is one of two dozen AG's suing Purdue and other opioid manufacturers Many of the lawsuits mention pseudo addiction Do you think this is an epidemic that begins with Purdue Pharma and OxyContin?

1:49:06 Yes, that's the start of it all. Yes Carol Panera who quit in 2013 says she hopes the drug maker is held accountable Do you regret the five years? You spent with Purdue Pharma I'm gonna sum it up and say this I think that was one of the if not the worst career decisions my life So they're really going with the pseudo addiction defense, huh? Yeah, also pseudo overdose and pseudo death. Not really dead you're just pseudo dead Wow that I mean hmm So i've been following this and they seem to be the only one- I mean really They manufacture it

1:49:44 It's the distribution that is the problem. You know, you've got the pill mills... Yeah and they've got nothing to do with that! No no they probably do look at drug dealers and someone's gotta go down from time to time you gotta take one down it's gonna be these guys yeah so screw them they are there liars their horrible horrible human beings because they know exactly what they were doing pseudo addiction. Pseudo addiction? That's hilarious So we got news about Anthony Bourdain And I love how this was all done by some local French Some local French guy who did the autopsy? I guess police from The New York Times police at the time ruled his death a suicide by hanging from an investigator standpoint The only question left was whether he had any substances in his body, which was a question Of course there were none save for the trace of a non narcotic medicine in a therapeutic dose

1:50:42 Christiane de Roquinny, the local prosecutor in charge of the investigation said in a text message to The New York Times. Whoa! Great investigative work there guys. What the hell... Yeah they told us what it was. What was that again? I forgot. They didn't tell us. Oh no they didn't tell us?! No. A non-narcotic medicine in a therapeutic dose which means it was some... Shantix Yes, of course it was shantics but But we're not gonna know. The New York Times is, oh I got a text message We're good to go who cares it's fine It's just non-narcotic Very disappointing Yeah well what do you expect? Do you really expect... No Of course i didn't really expect that but still holy moly

1:51:27 Holy moly. Oh, holy moly. That's our new game we should just use that all the time. Holy moley? Yeah I used it a minute Let me see what I have right now we're gonna stop you're gonna tell us about podcasting well get a request from a Part of podcasting that is poorly told Because by the history books has started in 2004 but it actually started in 2000 And I went to New York, I had to go beat somebody up over some money that was owed. And which is a true story another story for another time and Dave Weiner was in New York at the time I think he was just in us for some conference And I knew Dave Weiner from radio user land and the blogging stuff and RSS, and I had written this this blog post what you can still find that archive.org which is The final yard I think it is so instead of oh no the last yard said the last mile the last yard and I had This concept in my head Which was?

1:52:31 Since at the time we only had modems that were, they were cable modems but they were always on. It wasn't broadband it was you know it was more broadband than dial-up but really wasn't all that great The cable infrastructure really sucked But, you know, you didn't have to dial in so it was always on. And I had this idea that in order to create a good multimedia experience which we didn't have... It wasn't click and play, it was click wait for 10 minutes and then all of the sudden they would play if it was video might take a little less long with an mp3 file hard for people to imagine but that's the world we were in I said, why not have since the computer is always on it's always connected to the internet. Why not create a little thing? A little program that runs in the background and when there's when there's a new video or piece of content is available It downloads it without telling the user but when it has it on its hard drive it pops up a message and says hey! I've got something new for you here And then you click on it plays immediately which would give you a great

1:53:30 A great experience like oh I clicked on something it said it was new and it played immediately which was would have been sorcery and magic at the time. And, I presented this to Weiner who scoffed at me and didn't kick me out but he's like whatever you know I think he thought I was MTV boy shut up But then I took his software, his Radio Userland programs pro scripting application and I created what I was talking about. And he looked at it and said, I now understand what you're saying You have to promise me one thing so that's that you never ever touch my software again. Okay? I promised that! That's when he came up with the way to implement this which was the enclosure tag in the RSS feed format

1:54:18 And we were actually using this for three years before podcasting came to be. But it wasn't until the iPod happened that in my head, it clicked like wait a minute we can use this in conjunction with the iPod Because I looked at the iPod and didn't say jukebox as everyone was saying. I said radio receiver all we need to do is Have a way for people to subscribe And we had that the RSS mechanism was subscribed, and I built a little script and it popped it over to the to the iPod And that was the birth of podcasting but um I did that pretty well

1:55:00 And that's the way it should be told and that's and that's how it happened. Yes, yeah So this guy is the guy who invented podcasting yes? Hey I have a question regarding The FBI you know the this investigation to Hillary email investigation any collusion So I kind of said as a throwaway joke about their not, you know, not having the emojis to provide context around these struck and page text messages. And... No, I don't think you were joking! Well my joke was that it was intended as a joke initially by saying how can you have two lovers with seven or eight thousand text messages? Not a single eggplant emoji. It doesn't exist in today's relationships

1:55:55 And so, you know I tried to crowdsource it people weren't very helpful because you can look through the messages and you can get The emoji codes which are in Unicode and you can Bing them, and then you can figure out what they were. It's pretty much universally what I was able to find smileys or frownies. I didn't see any poop emoji. I certainly see any heart emojis No words affirmative words of I love you baby You know um I'm thinking of you none of this yet when these text messages came out Then, and it's kind of hard to tell you know exactly how they came out or who released them or why. But the narrative immediately was their lovers and in this investigation we now also find that FBI lawyer number one and FBI lawyer number five were also in a romantic relationship

1:56:49 Which by the way, the guy- the CEO of Intel just had to resign because they have a zero top- no fraternizing policy. But at the FBI it's okay so you can just stay there In both cases and I don't know if we've seen the text messages from lawyer one and lawyer five But it really changes the context from, baby I'm gonna stop him. We didn't even say baby don't worry i'm going to stop and he'll never be president which you know between lovers is a very different context than I'm going to stop its text You know? You have no context maybe was written in complete hate the guy's you know as uh is polishing up his ar-15 I don't know

1:57:27 But the way it was presented, I find highly suspicious. Moreover now that we have two other FBI agents who are also in a romantic relationship if that even matters It matters because it provides very specific context between these two messages and from the beginning, from the moment it came out. It was FBI lovebirds but you know this and I'm not buying that! I think that was brought in to soften down what was being discussed And in fact if you read them without the context of love birds its conspiratorial No one is really questioning that Well I have to assume...I mean..you....I think your.....

1:58:14 condemn the argument because you might be totally right and you have to assume And I could be totally wrong when I say this that it was well known in the agency that these two were hit were Shacked up, or they're right but I'm doing it. I defy any more love I defy anyone except you I defy anyone to show me text messages with a person They love even your kid that doesn't have a heart emoji or kiss emoji, hearts in the eyes emoji more than just smiley face frowney face. That is not... it is now part of our language. Alright well this was an open challenge to anybody out there who does

1:58:57 texting with their lover. Yes, and also if anyone can find any of the expected emojis in those text conversations let me know I mean i've looked through as much as I can without finding anything I see a lot of smileys and frownies that's all I see All right well it could be a conspiracy there was 7000 messages not a single sext Not a single one? Well, we don't know that. They could have been judiciously removed or there's a possibility of yeah I agree with that it doesn't make sense all right now if was an old married couple it would be different. I have a note but I want to read it after you do your Coco rundown. Coco rundown oh yeah you had you wanted me said you want talk about Coco the ape the gorilla talking talking gorilla yes

1:59:49 Well, I don't really have any clips about that. I was gonna talk about Krautheimer Well, let me do something on the gorilla then okay Coco the gorilla who knew sign language actually So Coco died and what is your impression of Coco just from what you know from the media? And this has been going on for decades as Coco story. I remember the first fantastic gorilla They had it's a very emotional Connective emotional gorilla that would there's just a human it's a human that can't talk but it can sign and could like a banana and wanted to screw other gorillas, I guess. I don't know. It was a mixed bag of them but they always had Robin Williams with Cocoa and Morley Safer with Cocoa and they all come back with the tear in their eyes saying Cocoa is glad to meet me or something. It's always good. It was mushy, mushy. That's right. Mushy, mushy, mushy, mushy. Well... Mushy, mushy

2:00:45 Jen the zookeeper sent me a note. We have every kind of producer in our midst Adam and John I saw the death of Cocoa the gorillas mentioned in the newsletter thought it passed along some Details about cocoa in case you discuss her death on the show believe me we would not have discussed It were neat for not for your email I worked as a zookeeper for several years and met many people who cared for cocoa here, we go oh And this was kind of well known, but there's now even a lawsuit about it which is kind of cool. The first is Coco had a fetish for women's nipples and asked to see them through sign language Which isn't so bad since she's an animal Of course what is disturbing? Is that the head of Cocos research Francine Patterson Demanded that employees show their breasts to Coco or their employment would be terminated

2:01:35 And there is a lawsuit now, or maybe it's been resolved. But there was a lawsuit of a hostile work environment. It is hostile! Yes, of course its hostile The second though has to do with the children's book Coco's Kitten A charming story about how Coco formed a friendship with a kitten From what I've heard from other keepers, Coco would regularly torture kill and dismember kittens. If i remember correctly she liked pulling their tails off where they were still alive then demand replacements this is actually typical behavior for apes they can be extremely nasty and most will slowly torture and kill any wild animals that fall into their enclosures then males will often use the body to masturbate

2:02:21 But Patterson again indulged Coco by getting her more kittens. The general consensus from the other keepers was that Patterson was completely nuts and had an extremely strange attachment to Coco, worse than even current-day dog owners. While zookeepers work very hard to keep the animals we care for happy I have never known any would go to these extremes." I believe it! I believe that was a big PR bunch of crap about the kitten. They just had to keep replacing it with new kittens as he ripped them to shreds Yeah, it's disgusting We got to look into this more how come nobody in the mainstream media covers it this way Well, they don't have zookeeper Jen on their side Probably yeah we can get I'm sure we can get kind of confirmation for that whole story I know the nipples part of it is very commonly known in the Bay Area. Yeah Hmm

2:03:17 Well, while we're on animals then this is one I've been holding from producer Neil. You know we have these donation segments going back and forth about the artificial insemination the breeding of horse and cattle and which hole hand goes in? Yeah! Which way it goes... So Neil sent me a note and this-of course I didn't think about it Having spent a significant amount of time in Kentucky, which is horse country. I can clarify note from last Sunday's donation segment Horse and cow breeding both involve the rear end of the male A torpedo-like vibrator is inserted into the gentleman to speed up the extraction process and prevent the use of human hands for simulation. Yeah, I'm all for the torpedo! The product is collected and sold in little straws that are frozen and sold anywhere from $15 to a couple thousand for prize winning studs." So that's where... That's where the rear comes from so I guess everyone was right we just forgot to stipulate male or female cattle

2:04:22 Hmm, that's a life-saving tip. We're gonna get so we got to get somebody can give us it We have two I'll tell you what one of us should interview Some people that are really know the you know all the details on both sides of this equation Yeah, I think you should do that right away. I'm on it. I'm sure you are We have a I got some racist just got some pure races before you go to race is this play by one get this one out of the way we had a gas tax. In california that was implemented just unilaterally by the state so they could what just recently they implemented a new one,

2:04:58 Well, this is the one that's a few months back but it was our gas price a buck above everybody in the whole country. Yeah despite the fact that we actually produce oil. And its already expensive its gotten very expensive here like $3 dollars a gallon here. What does it do? 399. So expensive So let's just hear a little background on that. I got the follow up clip, which is kind of like to me it says but there are all these Democrats, you know, Democrats run the state and they're all they were all for the tax, tax, tax, tax, tax, so let's play it. There are people, millions all across the state that have moved farther and farther away from their place of work in order to be able to get a house they can afford. And then the legislature slaps them with this gas tax. John Cox Republican candidate for governor says he had no problem getting a million signatures to put a repeal of the gas tax on the November ballot we had people chasing

2:05:53 The signature gatherers sign this. It's usually the other way around, right? The governor's budget this year spends $5 billion from the gas tax but the total state budget shows a 16 billion dollar surplus If they've got such a big surplus why are they collecting this gas tax? Proponents of the tax say that transportation projects are big long-term investments and they need a consistent funding stream There's a boom and bust budget cycle in the legislature that has been true for many, many years. We cannot afford to return to that it will threaten the ability to move forward on these transportation projects Governor Jerry Brown has vowed to fight the repeal. Brown has $15 million dollars in a political bank account and he could spend it in a campaign against the repeal Where did Jerry Brown get this war chest? He got from the same contributors and donors and contractors

2:06:42 who of course he's benefiting with his train to nowhere, his white elephant in the Central Valley. Today supporters at the gas tax said it is already paying for thousands of projects. This proposition will eliminate more than 5 thousand projects that are already good transportation projects that are already in the pipeline. A USCLA Times poll last month found that 51% of Californians want a repeal, 38% wanna keep the gas tax and gas tax supporters today said that the public just doesn't understand the benefits of the tax We're confident that voters will reject this proposition

2:07:21 What happened to climate change? What happened to climate change?" It's passing for sure. But let's... Climate change didn't get into this conversation, but so let's play the gas in this next clip we get to hear about three of the fabulous gas tax projects now some Bay Area projects that are already being funded by that gas tax money include over 250 cars, dozens of AC transit buses and better street signage in Novato. Live in Sacramento at the state capitol Melissa Cain KPIX 5. Street signs! So we're getting better street signs in Novato so the entire state is paying more in gasoline taxes so Novato a ritzy town it's a fancy town in Marin County big Democrat enclave they have their own damn money

2:08:12 They're getting signs and then BART cars and Muni cars, they get their own budgets. They don't need gas tax money to buy upgrades. This is a classic scam and this goes on everywhere in the country." Well we don't have that here not like that yet hmm We're still red Barely read. Alright, two racist bits. Okay. Dementia, dementia B is what I'll do. Dementia A is David Bossie now. Bossie? Bossie was he...I think it was involved in the Trump campaign wasn't he? I never heard of him. Hold on a second. B-O-S-S-I-E? Don't know him

2:09:05 I'm pretty sure he was involved with the Trump campaign. Let me just see if there's no wiki... Yes, here it is! Here's the Wikipedia! David Bossie, born November 1 1965. David Norman Bossie is a racist American political activist Well, I got the right guy then I guess That's a nice Wikipedia entry. Yeah, holy shit anyway here is biased no he's on with Joel Payne who was black and that's important in context of this clip Michael Hayden Black No bossy bossy's white Light, okay. And pain is black.

2:10:04 To say to a black man, you're out of your cotton-picking mind. I mean how stupid are you? Then...I mean he's... I'm flabbergasted by this. I got some relatives who can pick cotton. This is ridiculous! You guys want me like that on TV. I'll attack you hard. You're out of your mind. He said you were out of your mind. Gentlemen we're going to leave it right there. This is ridiculous. Okay. This is what has gone in America. No. This is what we are about. Nah dude. You blew it and really did So that's kind of the blatant racism. I mean, and it's really tone-deaf colorblind...I mean no legs no arms you're an idiot! And i guess he deserves that Wikipedia entry but much more subtle and interestingly cheered on by the crowd was Seth Rogen who was on Colbert and then it was a two minutes but as well worth listening to because this is what's really going on in America and your about listen to it

2:11:02 Now, he was invited by Mitt Romney to speak at some conference which I think was for Alzheimer's or for mental health. And Rogan has an Alzheimer's charity so he went and spoke. Of course, he met a lot of Republicans there! He talked specifically about one encounter – and I'll tell you right away it's Paul Ryan. Who is now he's on his way out, but he's is either speaker still. Is he the Speaker of the House? He's the oh yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's that now he's the big boss man. He's a is he in charge of the Republican Party What exactly you know, it was just a speaker of the house. He's in charge of the Republican Congress people and so yes power Yes power. It's powerful guy Okay So no, so there's two parts to this There's an very abnormal hatred but also the racism is just

2:11:54 befuddling. I was put into a weird, bit of a pickle wherein at one point two young very young like very very young white teenage men think how white they were if i noticed how white they were because I'm white! Because you're Canadian? Yeah, I'm Canadian we're the whitest people and... What is this about just explain to me what this is about just this why is that relevant Is he trying to, I mean it's all virtue signaling but is he trying to say... ...I was at this Republican thing and they were all white people and so they were so white that they were probably really racist? He is thinking along the lines that only a black man can make jokes about black people. And so he saying this is okay for me to say because I'm white

2:12:45 So I can make jokes about white people, it's convoluted. But what is the joke? There is no joke while he turns into a joke. He has done by his observations to come. He is preconditioning the audience for his material and making clear that everyone that he is white. I don't know why obviously yes But he's self-consciously white. He is woke Think how white they were if I noticed how white they were Because i'm white! Yeah, I am Canadian We are the whitest people And so... They asked to take a picture with me when they're maybe like 16 or 17 Fans? Fans! Very nice fans Clearly fans of mine and then

2:13:28 They said, our dad wants to meet you. And I turned around and Paul Ryan was walking towards me. Oh OK. Oh! Listen to the audience. Oh my god a creature from the Black Lagoon. Paul Ryan. And it was Paul Ryan who's walking towards me. Oh okay how'd that go? Well...I didn't..my whole body puckered as it were. I tensed up And I kind of, I'm like... and I didn't know what to do. He came over just grabbed my hand and I'm just shaking his head I don't know what to do! And he said can i have a picture with you? Um..and I look over at his kids are standing right there expectantly clearly fans of mine and I said no way man!

2:14:22 And I understand because it would be horrible for his political career or for his acting career if that got out This is a pick so I totally agree. He should not do it, but wow the response from the audience is fantastic and I couldn't stop And I said, furthermore, I hate what you're doing to the country at this moment. And I count the days till you no longer have one iota of the power that you currently have! And I don't believe that for a second that he said that bull crap. You're right. I think it's bull crap

2:15:07 In fact, stop. Stop! In fact I'll bet you well...I mean the most logical thing to do in that situation unless he has absolutely zero grace and is a total asshole which doesn't you know it's possible but what would you do in that situation? You explain why don't want the picture taken and it would be accepted No, he doubled down because he was brave Sarah Sanders left the restaurant she heard with the woman had this say so okay I'm out of here Look over here, these kids are still standing right there. And I feel very conflicted about this at this moment. Because it's not their fault? It's not their fault but at the same time they should probably learn that if they like a movie or song, the person who made that probably doesn't like their dad that much!

2:15:52 virtue signal much? Unless they were watching like Roseanne reruns or something like that. Maybe, but in that instance so I felt very honestly...I don't know how I feel about it. I'm glad I didn't take a picture with Paul Ryan my hand feels still.. I touched him so i don't know how I feel about that yes but uh and I feel I don't know his kids seem lovely and very Caucasian and that is mostly my takeaway from the thing So that was the big payoff is you get to do a Caucasian bid at the end? So what was he, what was it... What was the whiteness about it? By the way if he had his act together He would have said I won't take a picture with you because it would hurt my career To be honest about but I have a picture. You can take picture of me with your kids Yeah

2:16:36 I just thought the whole white thing was very odd. I didn't understand... I think the guy's an a-hole for being, for any of that whole story and why is he telling this story in the first place? Do you talk about virtue signaling but this is not the kind of thing that your brag about! The fact that your rude?! You were invited as a guest to a situation? He was speaking truth to power Truth to power? I don't want my picture taken. What kind of truth is that?" No, then he said, "'I hate what you do! I can't wait till you're gone!' That's truth to power." Truth to power... It's opinion to power if anything. Yeah, well I found the whole thing very- Yeah it was very disturbing. Yeah just like what are you trying to communicate? Yeah it's really bordering on sick. Yeah it is. Huh. Well that's a good- I'll give you a borderline clip of the day for that

2:17:32 Oh, I hadn't actually. I hadn't even inspected that but i'll take it thank you On a similar note it reminds me of this I just have a teaser This is like classic teasers abc teasing uh there's the abc rolls out flake and goodie eras This is they're gonna tease this some they're gonna start discussing something with Stephanopoulos and they tease it with this little gem. And more on the national debate over immigration tomorrow on This Week when George goes one-on-one with Senator Jeff Flake and Representative Luis Gutierrez

2:18:09 Okay, Jeff Flake hates Trump. He's quitting. He said that he doesn't even really a Republican and Gutierrez we know him. He's always bitching at Mona. He hates Trump Why don't they try to put some balanced characters on here? Maybe someone has some logical explanation for what's going on No Just as if they're just bringing two haters on but there once the Democrat ones are Republican That's balance Why are they kidding do they think you're fooling anybody? Yes, they are fooling lots of people for sure and then I'll end with that before our c-block here Speaking of fooling people have you seen the Netflix documentary sour grapes

2:18:49 No, not yet. You know what it's about? No. It's about this kid... I guess the Asian kid turns out to be from Indonesia who was uh... This must have been 2014-15 i think he was living up in the wine scene and he was buying at auction really expensive... Ah! It's when it's a burgundy you forget which one is He was buying all kinds of wine and he was successfully bidding up the prices were rising. It was a little bit early in 2015, but he was bidding up the prices and then he turned around and sold his entire wine cellar for $35 million dollars for a number of bottles went to Bill Koch who then discovered that they were fake! And it turns out this kid created tens of thousands... He's not a kid? This dude.

2:19:42 This dude. Yeah, everyone in the wine business knows this guy Okay well that's what I... That's what the documentary is about Oh yeah we're pretty familiar with the story He was a fake he phoned up wines and was a counterfeiter Yeah but it was really interesting! I figured you would have for sure seen it No no I haven't seen it. I know the story though So do you think that you might have some of his fake wine? No I don't collect that sort of wine Those are extremely high end auction style wines on auction blocks and they go for thousands of dollars. It wouldn't even happen, and I'm always thinking a lot of cheap wines are counterfeit from Bordeaux. I've always known this. Really? Yeah! This has been going on forever. Well, I'm thinking maybe there's a business you got nice printers

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2:28:59 Remember us for that at Dvorak.org slash na no nice today, but good showing we really do appreciate it Yeah in the really big it really came after the second half of show I figured we've got to get into this a little bit Because I take Trump pretty seriously when he says stuff, even though it sounds wacky. Remember he was telling everybody... well, he's told a lot of things but uh... I've been wiretapped! They were spying on me and that was- how long did everyone laugh about that?

2:29:41 Mean months long time yes months and it turns out. It was true You know they were spying on him I'm sorry using confidential informants, and there were wiretaps but even even that notion seemed completely impossible So when he comes out with Space Force with Space Force? Yeah And I went back I just I just wanted to listen to a couple of the clips where he's talking about the Space Force But really came from Tina Well, you know as I'd mentioned earlier. She's pretty convinced now at this point We're all looking around squirrel left squirrel right and all of a sudden the aliens are gonna show up And and I think she has a reasonable level of belief That could happen and we're seeing more and more stories it cyclical ago, you know starts with the disclosure project and YouTube is filled with stuff but this Space Force thing

2:30:33 I also got a note from one of our producers which kind of spurred me on to look at this. Ahoy! I'm hearing folks getting rattled up about Space Force remarks. I did want to share a couple of things... Space Force! In 2001, I enlisted in the US Air Force during morning physical training routines the training instructors, the TIs The army equivalent of a drill instructor would yell air power at which point the entire squadron would reply space power AEF And AEF is aerospace expeditionary forces, a component of the air and space expeditionary force deployment scope. This wasn't a one-time cadence this was something we would get repeated countless numbers of times daily it was ingrained from the start for all Airmen at least those of us in the 320th and 322nd training squadrons at the time. You sure he just wasn't an extra in the Starship Troopers movie?

2:31:31 No, because we've been reading about this. We've been reading in the National Defense Authorization Acts all of this stuff for space... We were talking about Space Wars oh god eight years ago when we had Chinese satellites bumping other satellites out of the way so just let's just revisit a couple of these Space Force quotes from Trump This is uh now this was from March In space United States is going to Do Colonel Glenn proud. We are finally going to lead again You see what's happening? You see the rockets going up left and right you haven't seen that for a long time very soon we're going to Mars He wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, I can tell ya. You wouldn't even be thinking about it Wouldn't be thinking

2:32:27 My new national strategy for space recognizes that Space is a war fighting domain Just like the land air and sea we may even have a space force another one Space Force, we have the Air Force while the Space Force. We have the army the Navy You know I was saying it the other day, because we're doing a tremendous amount of work in space. I said maybe we need a new force will go with the Space Force and i was not really serious and then I said what a great idea people have to do that could happen all right so I think this is that was at a rally and then here he's with the cadets similar message my new national strategy for space recognizes that spaces a war fighting domain

2:33:16 Just like the land air and sea we may even have a space force Develop another one Space Force. We have the Air Force who are the Space Force? We have the army, the Navy... Exactly when we went to the movies so You know, then he says at a certain point we're much further ahead than anyone thinks even though we're way behind. It's typical Trump double speak no idea what he is talking about but in his head I think there is something going on now for sure when you say do you see rockets going up left and right? No I don't! I see Elon Musk What other rockets are going up left and right yeah there always the reconnaissance agency they shooting up an Atlas 5 to throw another satellite

2:34:02 But you know, there really hasn't been a lot of space activity. NASA is shrunk as far as I know and some of the budget has gone to commercial companies like SpaceX Are we really doing anything in space? Have we done anything significant? Well, no. I mean there's been different things left and right that could be better? No idea maybe this rock is being shot off that we don't know about so for a conspiracy minded like myself you know one of the main questions whenever you start talking about space is yeah and I am very clear that there is no evidence that satisfies me that we actually landed on the moon uh and it's too bad that NASA lost the original recordings of the landing on the moon would have helped maybe but those are gone

2:34:47 But why haven't we gone back to the moon since... what was the last, 76? Was that the last moon landing? I thought it was 72. 72 maybe yeah, 72. We did something in the sky lab but 72 is the last time we landed on the Moon and i found an interview with The expert on all things space from Earth And that of course Neil deGrasse Tyson And he was asked a question, I think this is from Joe Rogan. He was asked the question why haven't we been back to space since 1972? No 76 you're right it was 76 yeah no soft landings happening from 22nd of August 1969 numerous unmanned... okay 72 then unmanned landing after 72. Okay but the question remains just I mean i'm not expecting you to know

2:35:46 It begs questioning, why have we not returned to the moon since 1972? What do you think? What do I think if I was gonna speculate on... Well, no. If you were Neil deGrasse Tyson you're gonna give a definitive answer. Oh okay! If i was Neil deGrasse Tyson and say the moon turns out to be an artificial satellite that's hollow which is why there are no deep holes in it from strikes from asteroids And we're worried about apparently got people inside controlling it so we don't want to mess that up

2:36:23 Are you just mocking me now? Do you have any idea yourself, John C. Dvorak as a technologist why we would not have been to the moon that seems like we could do more it's too dangerous It is too dangerous That's the reason and too expensive Saturn 5 rockets those things are like... We don't even make that rocket anymore well Neil deGrasse Tyson's answer is much more modern than you would expect. Because of the way it was marketed, there was the profiles in Life magazine of each of the astronauts and you saw their families. And then the president said we should do it and... It was this grand mission from NASA a civilian space agency and The World's Fair in New York 1964 was all about inventing a future so We were living that romance alright

2:37:24 What we were not reminding ourselves is that the only reason why we went to the moon is because we were at war with Russia, with the Soviet Union. That is the only reason...at all! Now are you buying this? Well we weren't at war with Russia We're in a space race, which wasn't war by any means. If you don't carry that motivation with you and you're only thinking that this is simply the next technological thing to do... That when we learn that Russia's not going to the moon therefore we have no reason to continue and we stop

2:38:02 you then, you cry foul and say well wait a minute how about the future? How about Mars and how bout the rest of that. Well the rest was not ever in the plan unless Mars had planned to... I mean unless Russia had planned to do it And so it was not a natural flow of what our technology would have done because it didn't flow out of our economic creativity It came out of our urge to not die. And so when you have that scenario Of course we didn't go past the moon after 1972. We were no longer competing with Russia to do that. In fact, most of what we did in space was reactive to Russia. We were not the first in space, Russia was! We weren't the first to send a life form into space, Russia was! Russia sent a dog! We weren't the first humans in space, Russians were! Russian even put the first black person in space who is a Cuban cosmonaut

2:39:01 The achievements in space or what we did we got to the moon first, and then we say we win and so we have repainted that era in our memory as We are the pioneers And we did it because we explore No, we did it because with that's a nice after-the-fact window dressing you can put on that achievement But we did it because we were at war mm-hmm. There is no Once you understand that it allows you to understand why we stopped Oh Understand but that some that's some psyops right there that he just put down once you understand It was about Russia

2:39:37 So it's about Russia. Well, hold on a second that doesn't even make any sense Let me just let's just go through the history of it Why would you stop in? 1972 because apparently we're still at war We stayed at war with Russia until the wall fell which is during the George HWI 98 Yeah, yeah, so where's all what happened in all those years in between I Because it's bullcrap, John. But it's not that we can't do it. You know the more I look at and by the way this Air Force has had a space command for a long time but now and I'm just going to say it makes nothing but sense now that we once again are at war with Russia

2:40:18 I guess Russia is doing stuff, so we have to have our space force. But in this case it's not going to be a part of anything it's going to be equal but separate. So will be as equal as the Air Force and the Navy but completely separate. How about this? The Russians in 1972 after going to the moon a number of times and the Russians and Americans together discovered that these aliens which Tina thinks are gonna attack any minute were out to get us And we joined forces with the Russians to set up various phony baloney operations that looked like it was against each other, but it was all targeting the Russians. Hence blowing up some of the biggest nuclear weapons in atmosphere up in the ionosphere they just...

2:41:07 close their portals. And that's the reason we stopped going to the moon, because we don't need to and in fact it was dangerous because there are already made bases up there. Yes and now it goes beyond bases yes it goes beyond bases and I think I can back it up to some degree first of all I think that we didn't stop do you remember that kid who got arrested and then extradited for breaking into a Department of Defense computer And he published stuff that he had found. Gary McKinnon, he hacked into US Space Command computers... I think I'm thrown in jail forever Yes! and he had non-terrestrial officers they found documents about fleet to fleet transfers and here it comes and i want our producers be on the lookout for Solar Warden

2:41:54 The theory goes and it goes quite deep, and I'm following this thread because it's pretty interesting to me is that in you know in this late 70s mid-70s we for the general public We said yeah. We're stopping but that's actually where we were breaking through And we are now we have a space force. We've had a space force as a part of solar warden wait You're saying perhaps that these secret defense or these NSA, some of these phony baloney missions they have this big payload sitting on top of these rockets and they can't say what it is because it's a spy satellite. It actually

2:42:36 potentially another mission to the moon. No, no it's way beyond the moon. So our solar system is protected by Solar Warden and we allow certain alien races to go through and certain not and that's what the Solar Warden is about let me just put it to you this way Where? What is our budget this year for the military? 700 billion dollars. It seems like a lot. Where is it going, do you see 700 billion dollars worth of shit? No! I know where its going and finally hit me once you take it out of NASA once you understand that this all Department of Defense where there's already 3 trillion dollars that can't be accounted for

2:43:21 Where is that money going? It's not it's not just being burned up by the Rand Corporation a bunch of guys smoking cigars stroking white pussies No, it's going into space and This really follows in you know Not for today But I'm going to bring more about solar well makes it makes out government again. Let you go on this It makes some sense when you think about the fact they were always freaked out about China and their war capabilities And when you look at the budgets, it's like Why are we freaked out about anybody? We have a budget, a military budget that is the combined more than the combined budget of all militaries of all nations. China, Russia everybody put together UK you everybody.

2:44:09 Ours is bigger. Yes combined yeah, and it yes What the hell we spending this stuff on but everyone's underpaid they don't have the Montreal We know are the planes don't work the f-35 strike fighter always bitchin doesn't work you know so we're complaining a lot That's a lot of money to just be importing poppy seeds from Afghanistan. You know, that would kind of defeat the purpose of making money on drug trade." I'm sure there is a lot in there and maybe a lot of that funds other things... Well actually if you think about it, if I am going with your argument because this budget is so enormous that CIA for example

2:44:49 It's supposed to be getting a lot of money. They're not getting enough money, so they have to go sell poppies The EU to keep their to keep themselves going and it well thank you this is very good You just completed my thinking that's why I was a little disappointed when the Federation of Planets guy one of our donors I thought he actually was sending it from some or because I think there are organisms and this documented evidence of intergalactic organizations and agreements Well, there's a lot of good YouTube videos. Let's put it that way But here's what I'm predicting. I think that this Trump Space Force thing He is going to start letting us in on the joke he's gonna start leaking It's gonna be in his words. He's gonna talk about little things and then maybe we'll see some more videos We'll have a little more serious reports boom-boom will have a little more serious reports

2:45:45 of UFO sightings. I think we're being, I really do think it's time that we're being prepared if there ever was a president who could introduce the world to the truth... Yeah would be this guy! That would be this guy and it would work because half the people would go Oh Space Force yeah and the other half would really think he's lost his marbles so it would remain a question for all time and yet the truth will be out. I'm hopeful. Space force But this may be the reason the intelligence agencies are so irked or they're beside themselves, or they don't know if it's a good time. And some... I would recommend...I'm not a buyer of any of this but I like it and I think people should go out and definitely read Philip Corso's book. Yeah The Day After Roswell Yes that's a book that you can even discuss any of these until you read that book Well I've read it

2:46:41 And we have a couple of producers in Utah who have worked on facilities. Their stories were very believable, very believable! Well you know it's like say well if this was true somebody be saying something because you can't keep a secret that well people are saying lots of things yeah it's not as though anyone is trying to keep the secret I mean just go on YouTube and you can spend months listening to guys that seem to know one thing or another. And it's just be lies that, oh you can't keep a secret. Nobody would... if this was true no one would hear about it." Yes! You're hearing about it. Yeah and when it comes to science which a lot of people like to point too It doesn't make a lot of scientific sense that we're the only ball here that has people on it or beings. That doesn't mean yeah I don't bring that into the conversation No

2:47:37 But so I'm on the lookout for subtle clues. I'm looking for more info in your project Blue Beam was always something that we've talked about and that may be completely, you know all of this may be a big hoax? I don't know but... Very elaborate hoax! It's very elaborate and just following the money all this money goes to Defense Department and it's got to be going somewhere and yeah you're right We see big rockets go up supply chains of course repairs, stuff like that. But I think when we truly start to find out a bit about it... And Trump may just be irking everybody who wants to release the information like, oh, I'm going to tell everybody." I hope he gets to tell something. He must know now. Now, lot of the presidents weren't read in according to Corso. Right? But JFK was. I thought JFK was read in.

2:48:32 I don't know, I don't remember JFK being read in. Apparently Reagan was read in... Well they started with Reagan! Reagan started literally the Star Wars project! Go look at the history of it! A lot of money! He started a Star Wars project? Yes he did if you're going to go there but Eisenhower was read in because he demanded to see Area 51 and everything else So Eisenhower was red and that means Nixon was definitely read in because Nixon's the one who supposedly drove Jackie Gleason, and you can look this up. Oh yes yeah we talked about this yeah. Drove Jackie Gleason to the alien storage facility to show him a bunch of dead aliens which apparently freaked Gleason out And then after that it is sketchy whether anyone was read in or not

2:49:20 So anyway, this is very speculative. I have my eyes open and I think that we are going to start now We're good. I I listen to this guy and everything he says has some kernel of truth in it somewhere even if distorted It's his own truth But this one it's just it's out there too much something's happening something's popping. I just can feel it Now entering second half of show. Exiting actually. Exiting, yeah that's it we're back oh no! Hey remember when we had a clip of Steve Pachanik saying that North Korea was just the beginning of the trifecta of agreements?

2:49:59 and that Bashar al-Assad would also want to talk with Trump, and have him at the table. And maybe even do something with North Korea because of types of stuff they have in the earth, and they could exchange with each other So I've also been keeping track of Bashar al-Assad, who does quite a few interviews usually with British media. But he's always pretty willing to sit down and talk to people And here is about Trump Well you tell me what your impression is of what he's actually saying with this One of the main players is United States and Trump made his meeting in Singapore with Kim

2:50:38 Recently Iran told that we will never meet with Trump because Kim is not Muslim, he doesn't understand what's going on. We'll never talk to Trump ever Will you if it will be necessary meet Trump directly or indirectly? Do you think it's necessary for you to talk to Trump? We believe that discussing or talking or negotiating with your adversary and any other one of course, is productive. But in this case it's always since we had the first negotiation with the United States in 1974 whenever achieve anything on any subject. The problem with the American president that they are hostages

2:51:23 to their lobbyists, the mainstream media, to the huge corporations financial oil armaments etc. So they can tell you whatever they want to hear but they will do the opposite and this is the case and it's getting worse and worse and Trump is a very stark example so talking in discussing with America now for no reason, without achieving anything. It's just a waste of time We're not happy to talk with Americans just because they are American We already discussed with anyone who could be productive and we don't believe that the American politics will be different in the foreseeable future So it is again a waste of time now I think he is fishing! I think he is fishing for a meeting

2:52:15 By being cut by being Well, he's kind of saying America... Counterpunch. Hey! I don't want to meet. Yeah he said like, I don't want to meet and American presidents are always you know because they're all going to be the same. They're all... No, he is saying they are driven by mainstream media that is one thing Trump does not. By lobbyists. Lobbyists? Fine. Lobbyists okay another thing Trump was not driven by. He says he doesn't wanna meet being contrarian, he doesn't wanna meet with Trump cause they're all the same nothing is gonna change and Trump that's a challenge for Trump cause as far as Trump concerned he's different Yes. That's what I'm thinking! Eh, maybe... Could be. Who knows? I don't know, just keeping these things, uh- Just watching them. Watching them.

2:53:00 All right, well I have a since you're talking about this kind of thing Let's talk about just do an update on the Taliban because we got to keep things You know people listen to the show for it kind of a generalized look at things in Afghanistan Taliban fighters killed 30 government soldiers in the first attack since the end of a three-day ceasefire Officials said that the militants assaulted two checkpoints at a town in Badghis province then they ambushed reinforcements as they arrived so Yes, getting the upper hand and we're not getting any reports of any of this and it has to do with the poppy field somehow They must be protected at all cost. Do you don't have a Krauthammer thing? I wanted to talk about Krauthammer before we go Yeah This is from crowd hammer was a very interesting guy because he was unlike George will and the other so-called conservative columnists He never really fully turned on Trump

2:54:00 But he was a neocon and somebody pointed out the science of that declaration or whatever it is there. Was he part of that, uh...of the project for New American Century? Well they- supposedly may or may not have signed that document but he was already in that camp and he admits it! I don't know why everyone's so stunned by this but let's listen to, uh..I got two clips one's an archive you don't want to play obviously Let's play Krauthammer. So we get a feeling for what this guy is coming from, he is the classic neocon which is a Democrat in sheep's clothing because he got... Because he got Democrat Party changed just enough that it pushed people into the Republican Party and then neocons are all actually ex-liberals all of them and they tend to hate Trump because they're liberals or basically liberals let's play Krauthammer on neocons. Is there a label you could have put on yourself in 1980?

2:54:54 Oh yes, at that point I was what you might have called a Henry Jackson Democrat. I was a Cold War liberal. I was a believer in the Great Society but I was also a believer in the tough approach to the Soviet Union which means I had pretty much of a home with the Democratic Party at the time You had Pat Moynihan and you had Henry Jackson, the great senator from Washington State And later on element of the Democratic Party shrunk to nothingness. And as it did, I was without a home. I remain generally without a political home but you could obviously fairly call me a neoconservative now. Now because we talk about the conservative and neoconservative what's the difference between being a neoconservative and a conservative?

2:55:43 There are several distinctions. One has to do with personal history. Neoconservatives generally are people who started out as liberals, and as the dean of neoconservatism, Erving Kristol once said was mugged by reality and they evolve in time into conservatism So that's number one. If you ask a neoconservative, how did you vote in 1968? A seminal year he'd say Lyndon Johnson if you asked a conservative I'm sorry in 1964 He would say Lyndon Johnson and the conservative would say Goldwater so that's one distinction The second is that because of that Neoconservatives carry over some of the idealism if you like

2:56:32 and objectives of liberalism, which means they want... for instance in foreign affairs. There is a critique by conservatives of neoconservatives which is that neoconservatives are too utopian. Wilsonian if you like. We want to revolutionize the world we want to democratize the world and the answer is yes What distinguishes us from liberals is that we don't rely on the institutions that liberals rely on, the UN treaties and all that Wilsonian stuff. We believe in power, American power in particular

2:57:09 But what distinguishes us from other conservatives, the more traditional conservatives. They are more likely to be realists. They're not interested in the governance of other countries if it's a democracy or not they're just interested in how the government acts in relation to United States. They were interested in national interest and I'm interested in constructing democracies abroad. This puts Krauthammer in very different light for me And why is this? I did not know, and i'm looking at it now that he indeed was a signatory on the project for new American Well, I don't have the clip on here. He's asked about that and he says he doesn't remember signing it. He would've signed it! He doesn't deny that but he doesn't remember ever actually signing it. Right well I'm looking at a PDF and it is signed? Yeah, he signed it. And here's the part that I've always taken exception to in this document

2:58:04 Americans were looking, and this is from their written document that he signed off on. Americans were looking forward to a peace divided after 45 years of Cold War spending so PNAC concluded that Americans must experience the crisis A new Pearl Harbor attack Yeah that's right That's what they were calling for that We needed to experience that kind of crisis 9-11 Yes And this was not long before 9 11 that this document came out Coincidence? I think not, but Krauthammer... No that was always Krauthammer's position. That's why he would manage to be you know to talk to the conservative audience but he is actually really a strong like all the neocons very strong liberals they believed in one in democracy everywhere one world government he never says that but One World Government is exactly what he wanted because he was one of those types now

2:59:02 I want to bring in the second clip, which is his now this was recorded in 2005. And I want to play this because this is the neoliberal expressing like he says they were utopian there's a kind of a you know utopian let's do their warmongers out that would let me say one other thing. I was a Democrat And I switched over to the Republican Party. I'm now unaffiliated after being an independent for a while, but I did it for different reasons. The Democratic Party gave up like he said they gave up on this Jacksonian Henry Jackson

2:59:39 type of, you know, kind of a war mongering liberals is the way I put it. This would be Lyndon Johnson Vietnam all this stuff. Yay yay more war! Makes total sense for that time that you would feel that way sure and they said well and I was anti-war and I was pro labor and I was pro middle class I was all the things that the Democratic Party also gave up on to become elitist And the Republican Party wasn't pro-labor or anything like that. There's no doubt about that and they weren't anti-war by any means, but they have slowly evolved toward that because everybody quit the other party because they sold out. They were coopted and so... But it was for different reasons that they moved over and the neocons are seen as kind of a enemy within because there are not Republicans by any stretch of the imagination And because of their utopianism I want to play this is what he felt like in 2005 This is classic

3:00:34 neocon thinking and how wrong they were, and I don't believe that Krauthammer ever came to grips with what he's about to say. The current president? History will determine... ummm....I think he ranks high now He's talking about Obama? No, Bush! Bush! Bush! Bush! But ultimately it's- I mean I've always had a sense that you can argue all you want You write all you want but in the end history will decide who was right and who is wrong You can suggest in your argument that the war in Iraq was right, the war Afghanistan was right. But we'll learn in 10 years or so if Iraq was a success I think it will be and assuming that this Bush doctrine of changing the Middle East Changing the culture of the area as an answer to 9-11 And as a way to prevent a new 9-11 I think is correct but again It's a theory

3:01:28 It's being tested on the ground as we speak and I think if it is if it works out in Iraq and Lebanon places like that. I think he'll be ranked very high perhaps as high as Reagan yo, how'd that work out? Man Yeah, there you go. I didn't realize that you know what he was very did He came across very differently in the past couple of years that I followed him You know I liked him. I like what it's also confronted with the reality that he just expressed in 2005 yeah We have to wait 10 years well we've waited 13 years and work out Workout like the way you guys hope did it oh?

3:02:11 Right. So I mean, I always enjoyed his material because he was very thoughtful and he did present arguments you wouldn't hear anyplace else it was so as it was valuable for the thought process but yeah another neocon Tina's gonna be crushed Was she a big fan? Oh she liked him very much She likes Kraut, Brit Hume...she really likes Brit Hume I like Rude Hugh. And, uh... That's about it? That's about it. She loves the No Agenda show! You kidding me?! What!? WHAT!? Okay perfect. That means its time to go John. The symphony is waiting for me.

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