Pardon Me

00:00 I think that's pretty cool. That's pretty cool, right? It's cool! Isn't that cool?! Yeah- oh man this is cool. Requesting a presidential pre-pardon, just in case. And broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state here in downtown Austin, Tejas In the Cluedio! In The Morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where it's gloomy and doom awaits I'm John C. Dvorak It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! IN THE MORNING! Wow... There is no sun You guys we got 106 here

00:45 Well, then I think this is fabulous. Yeah you shouldn't be complaining actually It's like it still warm in the high 60s or mid-60s. It's yeah that's pretty bad pretty bad all right how are you doing? Okay. How was your team doing? I'd lost interest after the second game Oh, oh. It was more of a... Like these guys are just gonna win who wants to watch this? Stop! Well they won again the third game which is the game they probably shouldn't have won but the other team there the other thing was not strong and their head by ten right away and it's just kicking ass and then that Warriors kind of creep back in and then creep back in and then creeping creeping creep and Then the other team craps out on the Warriors' win by 10 so

01:36 Yeah, it was boring. It was a lousy game because you know our star players weren't doing very well We had to do is a one-man show with Kevin Durant scored 43 points in the one day It was this it's not even it's a known fact that the Eastern teams are just not that good right? Well, that would it was pretty much. That was the news and The president saying he could pardon himself I think that was the only news I saw Yeah, the pardon himself thing which I discussed in a newsletter and I've discussed before. Which is to me...I think we talked about it on Horowitz's show It's just trolling! I don't believe for me it was anything more Oh, I don't think so either And really the genesis of it was Let me see if I have this here

01:36 Yeah, it was boring. It was a lousy game because you know our star players weren't doing very well We had to do is a one-man show with Kevin Durant scored 43 points in the one day It was this it's not even it's a known fact that the Eastern teams are just not that good right? Well, that would it was pretty much. That was the news and The president saying he could pardon himself I think that was the only news I saw Yeah, the pardon himself thing which I discussed in a newsletter and I've discussed before. Which is to me...I think we talked about it on Horowitz's show It's just trolling! I don't believe for me it was anything more Oh, I don't think so either And really the genesis of it was Let me see if I have this here

02:27 Where was it? Yes, here we go. The Genesis... By the way I think people should appreciate the fact that we kind of do and that we have a president Who's a troll. I have some appreciation for it, certainly jacking people around but if you listen to the genesis of where it came from actually had this piece from NPR President Trump's attorney Rudy Giuliani tells ABCs This Week that the president has the power to pardon himself he probably does He has no intention of pardoning himself. That was the entire genesis of this freakout, was that little bit! That was the whole thing! Yeah Actually he said a little more here I'm glad you got that clip Well there's a little bit more in the NPR analysis of this which i think is cool Trump's attorney Rudy Giuliani tells ABC's This Week that the president has the power to pardon himself He probably does

03:26 He has no intention of pardoning himself. So he can, but he won't or will he? Or would even need to does that jive with you? This is actually one of these fascinating sort of dorm room arguments among conservative lawyers about what the Constitution says and that we will put on television 24 hours a day. Argument basically boils down to among most of the really smart lawyers I know The president can fire anybody who works for the executive branch for any reason he wants. So, therefore it's—it can't be unconstitutional to exercise your due authority."

04:01 Most of them, most of the smart lawyers I talked to about this and the conservative lawyers. You notice how they're conflating this now with firing Comey and Mueller which I find entertaining? I should say also say that if you burnt papers or destroyed documents or evidence that would be obstruction so it's not that a president couldn't be guilty of obstruction it's just that firing somebody who works for him for any reason Managing the staffing. That's right, because he – the entirety of the executive branch is vested in one person and so what he does as he runs the executive branch in terms of staffing can't be necessarily unconstitutional. I think part of the problem – the larger problem gets to this pardon thing

04:40 I think it's insane the idea that the president can pardon himself. But it is ambiguous, you got to remember when the Constitution was written there were basically only three crimes at the federal levels like piracy treason and one other What was the one other? This Jibroni who wrote the article who reported on he couldn't remember if they're maybe high crimes It's in the yes... It's treason high crimes misdemeanor And so almost all criminal law was state-based, which the president cannot pardon. And so the idea that the founding fathers believed that the president could pardon himself for treason—I mean maybe some thought it, maybe some didn't—but obviously the second he tried to do something like that they'd impeach him. I like this and now we've gone from collusion to treason! And i think any president who pardons himself

05:32 whether it's Republican Congress or Democratic Congress, should immediately look to whether or not they should impeach him. If any president who pardons himself should also give himself a congressional medal of honor Why not now what this resulted in is a fantastic montage I'd like our mixers and actually anybody can do this. I'd like you to pay attention This is uh, I got it up from what does this the media research center very right-wing group? but they did a good job on putting the constitutional crisis of this pardoning into a beautiful montage And I'd like our own version of this because I think we can do even better The Constitutional Crisis alarm bells are ringing

06:13 But is anybody listening? This is leading to a constitutional crisis. Destruction of the constitutional norms. Constitutional crisis. Constitutional crisis. Could be a constitutional crisis. The president really wants a constitutional crisis. Constitutional crisis. Constitutional crisis. Perhaps, constitutional crisis. Constitutional crisis. This is a shocking breach of democratic norms. This is an assault on the rule of law, this is an assault on the Constitution! This is unconscionable what Donald Trump is doing here He's assaulting the FBI and the Department of Justice because he is meddling in the investigation of his own campaign And Max you're Republican aren't ya?

06:52 Making this a constitutional Constitutional Constitutional Constitutional crisis. That's an attack on our constitution This is another violation of constitutional norms Where did you fall in the year 2018 when the president United States tried to dismantle the Constitution? And your gonna have to answer that It is constitutional breach Constitutional chicken Constitutional crisis Constitutional crisis Trumpism most powerful enemy The Constitution of the United States and then we're to constitutional crisis territory. We are in a constitutional crisis, constitutional crisis! This presidency is kind of like a choose your own adventure where every ending ends in a constitutional crisis. That was the last couple days right there in a nutshell

07:39 Well, where is this crisis? I'm not seeing it. It was I've seen reporting on the other Warriors game an offhanded comment Followed by a troll tweet turns into a constitutional crisis Yes There was a lot of interesting things that I picked up certainly listening to the MSNBC's Chris Matthews went on morning Joe and And he laid some smackdown on the Democrats. Did you see this by any chance? Matthews does this every so often and no I did not, but i'd be glad to listen Is there a lesson for democrats to learn about politics About public presentation about how to defeat Donald Trump that they can take from Bobby Kennedy Well ya know I think didn't Matthews write a book on Bobby Kennedy is that why he's the expert on all things Bobby Kennedy

07:39 Well, where is this crisis? I'm not seeing it. It was I've seen reporting on the other Warriors game an offhanded comment Followed by a troll tweet turns into a constitutional crisis Yes There was a lot of interesting things that I picked up certainly listening to the MSNBC's Chris Matthews went on morning Joe and And he laid some smackdown on the Democrats. Did you see this by any chance? Matthews does this every so often and no I did not, but i'd be glad to listen Is there a lesson for democrats to learn about politics About public presentation about how to defeat Donald Trump that they can take from Bobby Kennedy Well ya know I think didn't Matthews write a book on Bobby Kennedy is that why he's the expert on all things Bobby Kennedy

08:29 I don't know that he did. I think he did. Well, I read the interview... I don't know that he did. I don't think he did. I'm saying that because his specialty was always Reagan and the Jimmy Carter. He worked for Jimmy Carter and then he did these Reagan and Chip O'Neill books or whatever. Chip O'Neill? I like Chip O'Neill but Tip O'Neill but I like Chip better so we'll just... Hey by the way what did you call the guy from Meet The Press Chuck Todd Todd Chuck what was his name? Todd Chuck Listen to Rudy Giuliani President's attorney former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani. Mr. Giuliani, welcome back to Meet the Press sir! Well, it's nice to be with you Todd. How are you? I'm okay let me start... It's okay let me start by asking... Fair enough fair enough but we won't do the last names Giuliani right? Passive-aggressive nice okay back to Matthews who wrote the book on Bobby Kennedy that was right yeah Bobby Kennedy a raging spirit about how to defeat Donald Trump that they can take from Bobby Kennedy

09:27 Well, you know I read the interview the other day. I quote her last night that this kid he was a 16 year old busboy Who held Bobby Kennedy's head up when he was shot on Romero and Juan Romero? And uh and he said when Kennedy walked into his room when he was delivering room service that Kennedy didn't look through him, but he looked at him and he said you know I thought I was 10 feet tall. And you and I knew Tip and Tip O'Neill and people like that they're real liberals. They're pie in the sky, they're always looking in the middle of distance. They think they are better than everybody else at it. They went to Yale Law or whatever and whatever they got, they claim that they are better that anybody. A true Democrat, lowercase d thinks their no better then anybody else. I've never heard that expression lower case D. Oh yeah! What does that mean? Well that means you're a democrat with capital D which means your in the party.

10:23 And a lowercase e means you're more of the nature of it. Okay, gotcha. They went to Yale Law or whatever and whatever they got they claimed they were better than anybody. A true Democrat, lower case d thinks their no better than anybody else That's what a Democrat is. And when the party regains that with white, black, Hispanic people everybody starts to think of themselves as one of them instead of being better than them they'll get back to the party of the people and they're not there yet There are too many elitisms...there is so much elitism in the Democratic Party It's so outrageous! And it all comes down to this notion of meritocracy being entirely academic based

10:59 You don't want to hear about a master plumber being an elite. He is, or she is but it's all academic and its again they've been playing with themselves in itself saluting And I'm telling you the people feel that there's a party going on and they aint invited to it That's a big part of this It's not just economics I dont buy the whole Marxist argument Its all about economics It's not all about economics It's about sensing that your leaders give a damn about you personally When that corner...I see some people like that on the Democratic Party today And, uh... but they gotta keep a low profile. You got to stay down! There's too much self-saluting Too many events that seem to be about saluting them Too many galas People are tired of it I'm sick of them By the way, I'm rooting against them Even though I agree with him He said gala? Isn't it gala?!

11:48 I prefer to say gala, but I often hear gala which i don't think is good. Gala sounds like some woman. Yes. Is gala coming? Too many galas people are tired of it and by the way I'm rooting against them even though I may agree with their policies I think there's a party attitude of elitism and I think they gotta get over it and its too much talk in the fundraisers because the people they talked on these kind shows are really the people that want money from and they're the elite yes I mean Hillary finally had a Bruce Springsteen concert last night. How about it? A little late in the game, identify with the people that the blue collar regular people identify with not the elite entertainers just my speech there are other ones but that's one and i think that something Bobby would understand and Joe Biden would understand if you have to people understand today and I think its real problem. You know during vacation

11:48 I prefer to say gala, but I often hear gala which i don't think is good. Gala sounds like some woman. Yes. Is gala coming? Too many galas people are tired of it and by the way I'm rooting against them even though I may agree with their policies I think there's a party attitude of elitism and I think they gotta get over it and its too much talk in the fundraisers because the people they talked on these kind shows are really the people that want money from and they're the elite yes I mean Hillary finally had a Bruce Springsteen concert last night. How about it? A little late in the game, identify with the people that the blue collar regular people identify with not the elite entertainers just my speech there are other ones but that's one and i think that something Bobby would understand and Joe Biden would understand if you have to people understand today and I think its real problem. You know during vacation

12:41 The Keeper was reading that new book, Chasing Hillary by the New York Times journalist who wrote of her adventure. And I don't need to read the book because she likes reading to me and like it when she reads to me so she gives all the important... Are you in a small cradle? Yes yes with a little mobile above my head. Sucking on a pinky. Go on, I'm sorry go on finish. You want to mention what? I'm Med Bobby Kennedy. Ah, well we'll talk about that in a minute And the whole book is really, this journalist said that Hillary was completely elitist did not want to deal with the press corps thought she had it all sewed up with her buddies you know the big press interviews. It was all Brooklyn, Brooklyn was completely off-limits and they were... Really the way the journalists describes it and she's was all in all for Hillary was incredibly elitist incredibly out of touch with reality

13:41 But at least she had Jon Bon Jovi playing his guitar on the plane next to her. Mmm, that must have been nice! So Bobby Kennedy not Elitist according to Chris Matthews you met the man Well, I got to meet him in Hayward which is kind of a working-class town then during his campaign and He seemed to lead us to me. He didn't look at you he looks through you Well, maybe just as he came around this were you bringing it? Were you bringing him room service? Maybe that was the problem It was like I didn't notice that he was like You know friendly even I mean I had met Gene McCarthy

14:21 who was the go-to guy for that era, for the anti-war, anti-Vietnam War era. And Kennedy kind of stepped in there and bumped him out of the way resulting in his death You know, that's another thing. There are a lot of conspiracy things floating around about Kennedy's death now including here is the Kennedy's oldest daughter Kathleen. Yes she says she thinks it happened in different way I have a clip this is her at the end of

14:58 This is the Bobby Kennedy, Sir Hank Kathleen clip. This is the end of our interview with Judy on PBS The very last thing I want to ask you both about very quickly and that is here we are 50 years later and Kathleen you have made a statement recently that you... That was kind of rude! The very last thing I want to ask you about kinda quickly You know like it's just an offhand thing This is the problem, you know what's weird about it is this a commercial free... You think that they could be more open-ended like we are instead of going to a hard break and all the stuff that commercial television does. I agree with you! It's ridiculous The very last thing I want ask you both about very quickly and that is here we are 50 years later and Kathleen you have made a statement recently

15:50 I think that there's reason to believe Sirhan Sirhan didn't act alone. We only have a few seconds, but you're saying this is something that needs to be looked at? I've talked my brother Bobby who has looked into this great deal and i think he makes a very powerful argument that it should be looked at again And Don Porter, it comes up in your film. You know we dedicated the last episode I think what is clear is that Sirhan Sirhan had a trial that is not a trial that anyone would have wanted for their loved ones and so I'll leave it to others to continue to investigate that question but that's important for us to feel like the criminal justice system is fair and there's a good reason to feel like perhaps this wasn't so fair Huh! Not Fair?

16:37 Interesting. It's railroaded! Instead of just wrong, it's not fair yeah that's a step further than wrong hmm interesting Yeah when you somebody gets railroaded like that and end up doing...and they put under you know you can't talk to them at all I mean I don't know if he can anymore but 50 years down the road we're now discussing this Yeah, well there was a mention that some of this may have been... Kennedy was the one who put the supposedly when he's the head of the Justice Department put a tale and had the FBI do spy on Martin Luther King. Which I think is true

17:17 It appears to be. And this may, you know some people think of maybe this assassination was a payback for their King assassination which is far out idea. What was Bobby Kennedy on track to do? I mean besides win but maybe that was just the problem not another one those jag offs Well, there's an element of that. It was almost like with Trump you know there was a suspicion that their Kennedys were all mobbed up and they really didn't... Just looking at the family yeah I can see where that would come from

17:55 Yeah, so they're mobbed up and they really shouldn't be in this position. Ah yes, bringing a bad element and so that happened... They were lowercase Then you'd have to take it to the extreme and say that the Ted Kennedy Mary Jo Kopechnik thing was also staged Really? It's always I mean anything is possible if you really Well, you know I still have my questions about Junior and his plane crash. Yeah and there's that element because he was making headwinds... Which apparently pretty much cleared the way for Hillary! The only other guy that had a chance for anything was Robert Kennedy Jr. Who picked up that crazy weird disease where he can barely talk. Yeah, that's a shame because it comes across... It's very uncomfortable to watch him. It's hard to follow. Hey I've got a great idea Bill! Let's mess up his vocal cords. Jeez So they've been sidelined. There are too many

18:56 incidents, too many coincidences. Too much, too much, too much. So but you know... Bill Clinton? Has he now started working for Trump? Well Clinton's only I don't know that he has no I'm sure he hasn't but what am i thinking but he is really on this eat this Korean thing seems to be And it has a lot to do, I think during his era when he was president. I think he wanted to do the peace deal with Korea because you had Madeline Albright go over there... Well first of all why is he doing interviews at... well okay he has a book i guess that would be the reason. Book! He's a book tour. He has a book. He's doing interviews with the co-author of the book. James Patterson The guy who wrote it

19:48 I would presume. Who's a kiss-ass if i've ever seen one and it's funny, I don't have the clip here...I do but he about a week before he came on The Colbert Show Stephen King was on Colbert and he was kind of condemning Patterson in some funny way and gave Colbert questions to give him which he never did well there's I have a trifecta The first is really NBC just sticking it to Bill on the Today Show, which was an edited interview. It could have easily edited that out or maybe they edit it to make it better but it seemed to me like this was retaliatory maybe for when Matt Lauer

20:38 Asked the foot for boat and email question I don't know what it is But it just seemed like totally out of character for NBC And here's what took place looking back on. What happened then through the lens of me to now Do you do you think differently or feel more? Responsibility no, I felt terrible then and I came to grips with that did you ever apologize? No yes, and nobody believes Then I got out of that for free. I left the White House 16 million dollars in debt Is that where they took the dinnerware?

21:14 Wasn't that a story? I have no idea, but somehow him and Hillary were dead broke. Yeah well okay... But no i didn't know he was 16 million in debt! You typically have ignored gaping facts in describing this and I bet you don't even know them. This was litigated 20 years ago two-thirds of the American people sided with me Now that's statistic that I was unaware of Do you know where this comes from the two-thirds of the American people sided with me 20 years ago? I think it was a pole and I think he might be right, but what people saying what like you didn't know It's the old they were pushing the promotion You know he lied but people didn't die died Okay, and there was this promotion of all your waste. This is when this is the moment when move on was formed

22:11 Move on was it was an organization designed to tell you let's move on from this. We don't want to be no impeachment Really that is that that is the genesis of the movie? Genesis of move on org was the Clinton impeachment things You never knew and I bet you don't even know them This was litigated 20 years ago two-thirds of the American people sided with me Yeah, your Noah gender show knows they were not insensitive that I had a sexual harassment policy when i was governor in the 80s. Bill, little bit of advice When you're on the hot seat as we say in Holland... When you're being shorn sit very still and don't go into oh I had a sexual harassment policy in the eighties what an idiot.

22:57 Women were overrepresented in the Attorney General's office in the 70s for their percentage of the bar. I've had nothing but women leaders in my office since I left you are giving one side... It almost sounds like he is saying, I had inventory my friends! I had inventory Mr President, I'm not trying to present a side No, no. You asked me if I agreed and the answer is no, I don't And well I asked you if you'd ever apologized and you said that you had? I have! You've apologized to her? I apologize to everybody in the world But you didn't apologize to her?! I have not talked to her Do you feel like you owe her an apology?

23:34 I, this is my favorite. This is where it's sad kind of because the old Bill Clinton would have been so much faster in coming. I mean he just messed it up. Hey hold on a second and beside and I do want to warn you that you have the Colbert retort to this Because Clinton went on Colbert. I have that too, but we'll play yours. It seems to me that there's a couple of things involved here. One, the Colbert show showing up on Colberts looked like an emergency booking because there was no promotion last week. The second thing is today's show has done it yet to get up at like five in the morning to do this show

24:16 But it was pre-taped. He's an old guy, he'll say oh shh... No no no, whoa whoa whoa It was pre taped this is not done at 5 in the morning This is a pre taped interview Okay you got me on that one but Let me just finish the 30 seconds then I want to hear your Colbert clip You've apologized to her? I apologize to everybody in the world Listen to this But you didn't apologize to her! I have not talked to her I feel like you owe her an apology. No, I do not. I have never talked to her but i did say publicly on more than one occasion that I was sorry that's very different the apology was public President, you think president Kennedy should have resigned? Do you believe president Johnson should have resigned? This is whataboutism Bill. Someone should ask you these questions because of the way you formulate the questions I dealt with it 20 years ago plus and the American people two-thirds of them stayed with me and i've tried to do a good job since then with my life and with my work

25:12 That's all I have to say to you. Yeah, no, I don't think so it's a Huge screw-up yeah epic fail Epic fail and he got blasted by the New York Times and all kinds of people for being we're being a douchebag capital D Capital D well He's also small d douche bag which is hmm alright? So set your Colbert clip up well do you have a cold bear clip yeah But I have a short much shorter one but oh no I have I have the gist of it So it's a long clip so you're gonna have to interrupt. I like it, but I do want to ask you something which is when I got home last night on the CNN they had a lower third banner that said something about William Clinton's tone-deaf response... By the way don't appreciate Colbert stealing our TheCNN That's our beat man! That's how we talk about him Question from Today Show My question would you like a do over

26:10 on that answer. Well, what is the reason for this? So emergency booking yes yeah And but this is so blatantly, so blatant. Would you like a do over? Holy crap! Well I have to say this Colbert... This is damage control and it very well done he brought Patterson out with him So he has backup so every once in awhile Patterson who really had nothing good to contribute But except to jump in and you'll hear it once in awhile the jump in and say what a great guy Clinton is and Colbert is pretty harsh and I think he does a pretty good job of not sounding like a kiss-ass. And he gives Clinton all that, but he does give Clinton all the opportunities she needs to apologize for the Today Show interview! Do you understand why some people thought that was a tone deaf response? To his questions about the Me Too movement and how You might reflect on your behavior 20 years ago

27:14 Reflection may change based on what you've learned through the Me Too movies. I have also noticed the constant use of the term tone deaf, which is really a real soft way of saying you're being a dick but then but the media used that term consistently. Tone Deaf? Yeah that came from...I think it was in The New York Times article like could be wrong hmm But he has this thing about 20 years... Shouldn't they just say oh you don't seem to be woke Bill This old behavior, I'm wondering why they don't say how come they don't associate or give Trump the same benefit of the doubt after. A do-over! Do over? Every day! You know when i saw the interview...I thought that because

28:02 They had to, you know, distill it. That's his way of saying they edited it And it looked like I was saying I didn't apologize and I had no intention to and I was mad at me Hold on a second Of course that's wrong what he just said because he did say you apologized and made a point of it Yes You saw the Today Show thing Was it- Did it look heavily edited? It was definitely edited Not easy to tell how it was edited But yeah, of course Now there's no reason in the world that NBC would do a hit piece on Bill. But they did, John! That's what I'm saying was pre-taped edited... Yeah, I know but I am saying what's the reason for that?

28:45 NBC is a huge, the number one in my opinion of the three networks. The biggest Trump hater at the moment. Well I think Bill did something else and i have a different clip which will play in a moment that's where he really screwed up and I think that's what the retaliation may be about. You said you apologized in the interview. And they showed a film clip finally but here's what I want to say It wasn't my finest hour, but the important thing is He what is the deal? I mean you hear about people with a hero that use a lot of heroin have this problem Oh, he has the driest mouth. All you hear is this it's like disgusting

29:32 Yeah, he's like you take a drink of water do something. Oh yeah, I like it like his mouth is glued shut Trying to pop it open. He's got mucilage in the mouth It's he's got those white stringy things when he opens his eyes gross That was very painful thing that happened 20 years ago and I apologize to maybe it's just cotton mouth and he's high as a kite. To my family, to Monica once again her family for the American people. A minute then a minute now i've had to live with the consequences everyday since and I still believe this Me Too movement is long overdue necessary and should be supported and we should all...

30:24 But stop. That applause, if you listen to the whole thing and the way it was done either that one or another one but... Was edited in? Anyway just seems as if there was just a slightest amount of lag in the applause Yeah And it didn't go from like somebody who can hear somebody start No it went full blast yeah You've heard this where people started clapping then all of sudden a big clap, applause This was a massive attack Off two beats. I believe they turned the applause sign on. I think you're right. Let's listen again. Hold on, let me go back here so that we can see it in the waveform. Here we go. Now I heard a couple of claps coming at the start there John. Well maybe... Well they're happy! That's for sure. What?

31:22 What'd you say? This is Patterson. Wonderful, wonderful... What kind of a writer would say that? Wonderful, wonderful! It's a wonderful, wonderful life Now the thing is how does this jive with another guy who likes him but also thinks he's a psychopath which is George Stephanopoulos Who once said that he's such a horrible sociopath and he just thought for everything has to be about him. Yeah How does that match with what Patterson? No, no He's a wonderful guy is gonna make me rich. There's no no you didn't say that Wonderful one it is a wonderful wonderful wonderful guy three wonderfuls

32:15 Yes. All right, here's the other thing I've spent a year now with President Clinton and i went in liking him but in that year I found he's just a wonderful wonderful wonderful human being You're right! Three! And he spent his whole life trying to do good things for this country and since he's been out of the presidency with the foundation he's done incredible things for all around the world Well I would agree with you yes we all agree if I could I would think some of the reason why people saw that interview and thought that it was tone deaf or whatever word they want to use is that you seem surprised that question would come up. That somehow this had all been adjudicated in the past, there's no reason to talk about it again when it seems like the spirit of the Me Too movement is that um...

33:01 It doesn't matter how long ago it happened, examples of men who were not held accountable for their behavior especially men in power with younger women or people who worked for them is worthy of being re-adjudicating or adjudicating for the first time no matter how long ago it happened. And so it seemed tone deaf to me because you, you seemed offended to be asked about this thing when in all due respect sir your behavior was the most famous example of a powerful man sexually misbehaving in the workplace of my lifetime. So it doesn't seem surprising that question would be asked why are you surprised? No I- The question had been asked by him no but other people In this context The Me Too context Yes and I didn't mind at all

33:44 I didn't like this one because it started with an assertion that basically, I had never apologized. As if...I had never tried to come to grips with it and as if there has been no attempt to hold me accountable which anybody who lived through that knew the facts knew wasn't so. Nonetheless, I realized hey there are a lot of people don't have any memory of that And all they saw was be mad and I seemed to be Tone deaf to put it mildly. So last night when I was at my event, we did an event in Harlem with Walter Mosley. I asked to say something about it because I think it's important people need to know. I apologize. I meant it then and mean it now. I've lived with the consequences and that still supported me too. And I think we all need to keep trying to be doing better. And I would never dispute that

34:38 So, here's what possibly may have happened. Clinton did an interview on CBS which would make sense that the do-over came on CBS and in this he said something which I believe is a big no-no with the Democrats capital D Do you think that the press has been fair to President Trump? I think they have tried by and large to cover this investigation based on the facts I think if the roles were reversed, now this is me just talking about it based on my experience. If there were a Democratic president and these facts are present most people in Washington believe impeachment hearings would have begun already. If they're were Democrat in power right now? And most people I know believe that the press would have been that hard or harder

35:29 But these are serious issues. You hear from Trump supporters who say, you know the press slobbered all over President Obama he could do no wrong and now this guy can do no right what gives that there's a kind of whiplash? Well they did treat him differently than other Democrats and Republicans because they, it was the political press. You know I don't know did they liked him? And they liked having the first African-American president and he was a good president i think. I don't agree with President Trump's assessment of his service." I think that's that was that was the big problem! I think that was the real root of the issue here why he got nailed by NBC. Well you know

36:13 It seems to me that it wouldn't be a problem, except it's possible that the hypersensitivity of the media knowing that they're screwing up brought this out. It's like look we have to and then we made it worse when Clinton went on about how Korea The thing he's doing with Korea, we should support. And I don't know... Yeah maybe this is as good a theory as any because I found the whole thing to be weird." Yeah and yeah i'm sure Hillary wasn't happy with that at all and maybe just the Democrats capital D who just want nothing to do with the Clintons anymore? Just done with them! That's now that's the possibility because that goes back to one of our old theses which

37:01 that Hillary's still hanging around, she still has her machine. They can crank it up again and next thing you know in 2020 it's gonna be Hillary running for a third time to be the Harold Stassen of our generation. The reference few people will get. Give us an explanation I didn't get it. He is guy who used to run for president my dad used talk about him but he was a guy who kept running And, uh... Like Vermin Supreme? ...and never winning anything. You can't win but Hillary would be a third go-round and it would be a disaster for the party. Disasterous! Yeah. Well they're all fighting, they're all jocking. Maybe this is just let's knock them both out of the picture. They are all jocking for position now what is the party gonna be?

37:51 Except for the anti-trump party they got that down, but now they have to maybe you know be we need some leaders You need someone who looks like like they can do the job. Where's Clooney? Well, we have a Clooney clone at Gavin Newsom. Good looking guy wears his shirts you know he doesn't wear t-shirts or where's the shirt open it I'm tough guy and He's running already has decided instead of running on issues or anything else because there's no issues You can run on as a Democrat in California We have the highest taxes we have the worst some of the worst education results in the country Everything is bad The roads are falling apart. It's just one thing after another." So he's running on an anti- as a Democrat, he's running on an anti Trump platform. So couple things. One... He was like okay good luck with that didn't work for Hillary. So the number two guy in their jungle election is John Fox I think his name is? Cox. John Cox. He's the Republican so maybe that was unexpected

38:53 Well, there's a couple of thoughts here if you want to talk about it for a second. Sure It was kind of hoped for by Newsom because he didn't want to run against the Democrat because they could You know, they have the know each other's dirty laundry. And he felt that because the state is two thirds Democrats and most very few I think as a quarter Republicans and most independents although there do vote Republicans in as governor every so often. And this guy could be offensive enough that this could happen to him although I don't think it will He felt that he had a better shot at beating a Republican because there's a clear difference and, and he can run against Trump. Right? Okay. Because Trump is supporting Cox I'm going to change my position. I've consistently told you that you need to get out of California. I want you to stay! I want you to stay on the Titanic until that fucker is down, the iceberg is floating overhead...and you need to report on it Yeah well it won't go down because of the weather

39:58 Yeah, the mudflats still dry. I guess good. Then much faster there. I mean come on people out there now There they are there was quite a bit of interesting news about the news if you will Apple is going to help you. I mean apple that I don't know if you saw the worldwide developer conference keynote Which I missed it wanted to watch and here's heres how every demo went well And we got this thing over here That's pretty cool right? which was the applause line cue. Every single person who presented something at some point would go, I think that's pretty cool! That's pretty cool right? It's cool isn't that cool yeah oh man this is cool and it wasn't cool like you're like man yes it helps if it actually is cool yeah yeah oh wow you know now uh but i can ask siri if i'm on time for my plane

40:55 But, they're gonna help you with the news. So great to be here! I'm excited to tell you about some great updates in some of our most popular apps starting with one of my favorites News! So, News is a personalized feed where you can see all the stories you want to read pulled together from trusted sources and our top stories are hand-picked by the Apple News editorial team To make a great collection of curated content She's stuttering over the fact that as to propagandize you I mean to make sure there's no Trump and pro-pro team To make a great collection of curated content With our new browse tab, you can discover new channels

41:51 Topics channels, we've made it even easier to dump jump to your favorites. That's why they're your favorite favorites news shines shiny iPad We've added a new sidebar and it's a great way to navigate It makes it easy And I think fun fun to dig into the areas you're most interested in people so that's news and that's news But not quite as good as what the face bag is doing. Oh no, those guys are way ahead of the curve. CNN's Anderson Cooper, Shepard Smith of Fox News and Univision's Jorge Ramos all coming to Facebook this summer as the social media giant tries to improve the quality of news on its platform

41:51 Topics channels, we've made it even easier to dump jump to your favorites. That's why they're your favorite favorites news shines shiny iPad We've added a new sidebar and it's a great way to navigate It makes it easy And I think fun fun to dig into the areas you're most interested in people so that's news and that's news But not quite as good as what the face bag is doing. Oh no, those guys are way ahead of the curve. CNN's Anderson Cooper, Shepard Smith of Fox News and Univision's Jorge Ramos all coming to Facebook this summer as the social media giant tries to improve the quality of news on its platform

42:39 Reuters correspondent David Ingram. Anderson Cooper is going to do this from his regular CNN studio and it's gonna be in addition to all of the other CNN duties apparently all these anchors still have time in their day to do yet another show these are all going to be Facebook shows the terms were not disclosed but these are big-name anchors and big name news organizations that would not be doing deals with Facebook if Facebook we're not paying them something that they thought was a fair rate The shows are for Facebook's video service Watch and other programs including one by ABC News will also be produced for Facebook. The tech giant says the shows will experiment with social media features such as polls. News has been a really tricky area for Facebook because of the proliferation of fake news and hoaxes, this is a chance for Facebook to put more high-quality news

43:31 into Facebook, it's also a chance for Facebook to maybe get the biggest share of the ad revenue pie. I mean Well, a couple things. One... it's too bad we're alt-right. Too bad we're so alternative because people are making bank today with Netflix and now Facebag you got your half a celebrity and you can make a lot of money

44:19 Too bad I'm just a washed up VJ. Yeah, well there you go. Podcaster! What are you gonna do? But two... Well at least don't have to go into the office and they'll have somebody saying, You know we like what you're doing. We need to talk. Sit down for second. You've been doing a pretty good job here but we think we're going into different directions Yes, were thinking more black female lesbian So, they've got Anderson Pooper, Shep from the Fox Newses and then what's his name from Univision? Jorge. Oh that Jorge! So we have nothing but left-wingers Yeah And they're going to be doing... But they use Shep as like a straw man He always works for Fox he must be conservative I don't even see him as conservative I dunno

45:12 But yeah, I guess everything's represented. Left right and Spanish. Yeah that's perfect So but to have three... First of all for CNN Fox and Telemundo to allow Univision to allow that To allow their anchors go to the enemy Of course they gave them their best guys obviously It's like what are you doing? You can't beat him? You're gonna join him? I'm not so sure why they're doing this Well, now that you mention it in those terms. It's idiotic! Yeah These guys are the competition Unless... It's like hey Washington Post over here can we use your two top guys over at The New York Times as columnists How about this? Because of a balanced report No how about this? How about ad sales because it was mentioned specifically in the report about advertising What if ad sales doesn't go through Facebook

46:07 What if the ad sales has to go through CNN, through Fox or Univision? Maybe that's the deal they cut. No? There is no way! Well I find it a strange... The type of sales you do on broadcasting is so different than the type of sales you do on online stuff It would never buy it because these guys are boneheads They're gonna teach him then that for sure Not going to teach him nothing Teaching them nothing I tell ya I think your initial assertion was right That stupidity that we're witnessing Imbeciles yeah Did you see this? Is that it from the Apple Worldwide Developers Conference? You get any more stupid reports from this? I mean, it could just play the whole thing. I was highly entertained by that woman! Well they had... They did have the digital health and now yeah-

46:56 Who is gonna take advice on cutting back on drugs from your drug dealer? I just don't understand why people don't see the obvious here. Oh, yes Apple will give you a screen time It's gonna tell you oh You've been on Instagram for three hours today Every example you see of this is between 3 and 5 hours that people are on Instagram Yeah, we talk about you say I'm saying average times ink yeah well, but I got some OTG stuff later How shoot I know, I don't. I don't have anything Except that well, I mean if you yeah Okay, I do so this notion of your phone listening to you and the only reason I'm tying it to Apple is because I went into the Apple What is it? The Xcode their SDK their software development kit specifically for iOS and It turns out that

47:55 I'm pretty sure that phones are, you know the people say I was talking about this and then all of a sudden the next day. I got an ad for the same thing. I was over here And then I got an ad for something we were talking about and everyone's saying no We don't listen we don't listen but that's not true I looked at Apple in iOS has ways for you to tap into keyword recognition so You know in essence It's a trick to think that your phone is not listening to you until you say, hey Siri. Because it is listening the whole time, it just picking up that wake word but in the actual SDK, you can access this yourself and you can say okay, you're listening all the time and then when this particular word comes through, this trigger... And there could be thousands of triggers from thousands of apps as far as I'm concerned

48:51 Then it will pick it up and then you can trigger a script and do something else which is kind of to me explains why You talk about in the next day. It shows up on your feed because it, you know, it's triggered. It has to be registered Okay here's the guy who said Levi's we need to show him some jeans that make sense And put it in tomorrow's run boys Now, in order to use this your app does need to request permission. What's a little unclear to me is how that permission is asked? If it says well you know... In some cases it says Siri wants to access your microphone. It asks when you install the product!

49:31 I'm not so sure with iOS if it doesn't ask you later on again. I think it may have changed... I don't think it has to, when you install these products-I wrote a whole column about this! On Android yes. Google abusing it! Yeah. Google takes everything that, you know your first born practically and show you can use google navigator and once you agree to that then they can use for anything they want they could do all this stuff on top of that in other apps Here's the thing, I'm pretty sure that google yes They you know when you wind you as you say when you install the product is when you give away those permissions I think iOS does it differently? I'd like to know if anyone who has had this happen to him if they have an iPhone or an Android phone. I'm pretty sure It's Android so what we're learning now Is that third-party apps can access so much on your phone and there is just this continuous stream once it's been put on

50:22 There's a continuous stream just recording, just hearing what you're saying and there is a speech. And I know how this works now because i've been doing this for the past couple of weeks with you know with the uh... The Mycroft open source talking tube so now I'm understanding how this works and you could just put it any trigger word you could anything you want for this user if you hear that let us know and send back to home base and its third party apps Now, Facebag says they're not doing it. I think it's touch and go as to if you say we're not eavesdropping on you but your phone which has always been my problem your phone has so much information about your location and now if you look at the development side anyone can make an app that can do this and then trigger any kind of event like an ad buy based upon what is heard

51:14 It's really disturbing. Which is why I'm OTG, baby! Well, I don't even turn the phone on so I don't care... If you, this reminds me for some reason I was thinking about this is crazy moment in time when Google is still in its formative years and they were experimenting with advertising and using key. You know you put a search term in and it used to have the ads on the side and a little slide bar and you type in corpses and then all these guys had bought any word pretty much say on

51:50 eBay, you can get a deal on corpses and you'd have all these humorous little things on the side because eBay apparently was selling everything. You know? Yeah. Need to know more about necrophilia call it good to eBay by the way. You can go back to when I was in Los Angeles or what was that 2009 2010 when I was living in LA around that time. Sure. And I was on Twitter this week in tech And you can go see where I said, very explicitly. With the introduction of Google Voice which opens up your browser and allows access to the microphone to Google... ...I said, You watch! I predict there will be ads based upon what you say in the future. And I was laughed at! Laughed at! And kicked off this show? Eventually kicked off the show. Yes Well something funny happened

52:45 So in my final, now when we're talking OTG off the grid I'm anti-tracking. I'm pro sanity that's what this is about. I just don't want all of us... Pro sanity! Yeah pro sanity. I don't want to be carrying a phone in my life that is doing all this stuff but you know and I'm also anti tracking but within reason so the only thing well two things happened one I'm on T-Mobile came out this was very good I'm happy with them they came out with something called digits and digits is either an app or you can get it through the web browser. You can send, receive calls and text messages from any device Thank you very much T-Mobile so now I could finally shut off Apple's iMessage

53:28 Which is another trap that you get sucked into it's like if you're texting back and forth with someone who has an iPhone You're on. You're not going through the SMS system after a while or almost immediately, but it looks like because in the same app But then when you leave Then people will just be sending stuff And it's going nowhere, and I don't know if he received it and you of course Don't receive it because you don't have the eye message anymore. It's one great travesty huge injustice Apple did to their users So now I don't have to have iMessage anymore. I can just turn the whole thing off and no matter what you, if you text me with iMessage it's gonna...I'm gonna come back with a green bubble and you'll know I'm a poor schlub who doesn't have an iPhone. And yeah poverty! Don't even talk to him.

54:18 He's a dud. But I still have... He is not part of the hive. No, I'm not the hive but i still have a whatsapp issue my sisters have a group for whatsapp I got my daughter off, Tina's off and you know so all of that. That's all good it's just a couple of people and like it would be nice to have...I don't want the app, I don't wanna converse through it but with my newfound skills through automate the boring stuff with Python I'm like pretty sure I can find a library that I can build an autoresponder that not only says hey I'm not on WhatsApp but it would forward me the message someone sent me to my SMS

54:56 Tech system, which is just my regular Nokia e71 sounds reasonable. You should go one step further Okay you should include what you just said but on top of that telling sending the message the Message that you're not there. You should have attached a long lecture Why are watches? I think that's a fine idea Yeah, so every time they send you something they're confronted with an essay on why they're idiots for being on this product and they should get off as fast as they can. Well sadly that's not... And you'll be doing them a favor! I wish i could do that. I think it's great advice. Sadly it's not going to happen because here's what happened next

55:42 So I take my newfound Python skills, I get the Yowzup library and import that into my script. And lo and behold boom! On a command line i'm talking to WhatsApp. I actually sent a message to Agent Orange he sent one back He says wow this is really crazy like you don't even show up that your online and there's no red status because I am directly into the API. I'm like oh cool So, I'm like, I'll just let that sit and go to get some groceries. I come back and it's disconnected and like oh what's going on? So I uh... so let me check how is my phone and says here the message is still the same Your phone number! It has my number Is banned from using WhatsApp Please contact customer support for assistance

56:30 Which I did and of course, I didn't hear back from them. But apparently you're not supposed to Not supposed to Just command line to the API and now I've been banned which did solve my whatsapp problem in a strange way Because it's just not a... Yeah, but there goes the lecture. Yeah yeah sad now you're not allowed to do that was on an unapproved device which of course was you know it wasn't a device at all. Yeah unapproved devices are just the command line. Yeah so I got banned and I think it's for life because they're not... You got K-lined! I get what? You done. Yeah toast. Oh you kicked off. Toast yeah I get totally kicked off

57:11 Yeah, well they don't want guys like you so you're going against the will of the wishes of the elites And then yesterday trouble maker Elise and I Tina's daughter we went to a Whole Foods He gets himself for dinner, and you come in immediately. There's a guy hey Hey, how are you doing? Oh easy man? Yeah? Hey greater Are you an Amazon Prime member your prime member yeah? I'm a prime em Wow You gotta get the app And then there's all kinds of deals you can scan the QR code says 10% off to get 30 percent off your money good 50% You've got to get that dollar like No, no. I know I like what you're saying man But now I really you know Amazon already knows what I read what I watch What I buy? I don't want them to know what I eat so we move on then at the cash register same thing hi Do you have a are you a member?

58:06 They assault you and I just go through my whole spiel again. I'm gonna get banned from that place. There's a creepy guy, man! You know the thing is Danny...I looked into it, you know Amazon Prime member and I am not like you about this because I don't shop at Whole Foods except to get some emergency milk because their vegetable prices are too high. The whole thing is crazy expensive yes It was not as bad as it used to be so I'd get some grapefruit juice in milk maybe something thats about it and some bottled water. So I don't care if they know that or not, but the thing is it's like you got to run this app you can put this on your phone and show it to the guy and get a discount or whatever you get. But oh! It doesn't run anything pre-Android 5.0! This was exactly what was so funny. So I'm talking to the cashier and I say hold on and pull up my Nokia E71

58:58 Give an app for this she goes lordy. I haven't seen one of those for 10 years Totally bowled over Couldn't believe it unless they start sending out cards Yeah, now you're talking none of the right the none of these These phone apps work on it won't work on my nexus 7 which I can't really upgrade to 2 5 because there's not enough memory mm-hmm and it won't upgrade on my My old Nexus Galaxy because it's got Android 4.4 and it won't go, it just says ah you Dave abandoned it because apparently they can't write the code for these old devices which should work fine. It's not can, its wonts

59:44 the app to work on the old phones but they won't do it. No, they won't of course not! That's because they wanted you to buy a new phone screw them Not just that they want to have all the extra data that your phone delivers along with your purchase Yeah well their not getting that for sure but I want a card I know you wanna card Where is our card? I'm gonna ask him for a card. Where's the card? Okay, don't use these phones but i'm a Prime member! I do have a good tip for all prime members Amazon they have an offer for the Nokia E71 $36 and it's brand new And it'll say out of stock because if for some reason you order it and then oh out-of-stock and then the next day Ka-ching hi this is China calling we're It's coming out of the printer right now. It's on its way

1:00:31 This is a great deal. 36 bucks for-for a really good phone! I ordered four. Those things... ha, ha, ha! I'm like Dvorak now. I'm gonna take it to my grave! Ha, ha, I'm like you now. You're down with OTG, Adam's OTG. And with that I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to John C! The c stands for can't load the app Dvorak In a morning to you Mr. Adam Curry also in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground feet in the air so

1:01:11 In the water and all the names of nights out in the morning to the troll room. Hey trolls No agenda stream comms where you can check in live We just added rock-and-roll geek to the lineup by the way on the on the stream good stuff You can listen to it all day And of course you can hop in and you can also chat along with the trolls if you so wish. I also want to say, in the morning, to all our artists who continuously are uploading fantastic album arts... Of course we could only choose one and that honor was bestowed upon Illuminadia. She bought us the artwork for episode 1039 titled, that was Bot Cops! This was The Brain

1:01:52 With Ambien, and it was the... It was the Ambien I guess the uh... Racist. The composition of what Ambien is Zolpidem tartrate And then it had a little arrow to the area of the brain where racism occurs Only in Roseanne apparently when you take the Ambien and it was good! It was topical, it was nice piece I think she has standing in the area isn't she? Isn't she a... She's a biologist of sorts. Of sorts? Yeah, I think she does the what's it called you're doing gene stuff Oh, she reads your tarot cards No!

1:02:37 Sorry. Genetic engineering and things of that nature. She's a biochemist, gotcha! A biochemist is probably what it is... We've got so many high-end people. It's an embarrassment to us. Our producers are biochemists we have Eagle Scouts Tons of Eagle Scouts every week goes by I don't get another letter from a different eagle scout We have Eagle Scouts and Hams, many of them fought the same. I'm very proud of that! That's quite a testament Yeah who knew? we got a lot of military too and a lot of intelligence Yes, we must be Republicans or something

1:03:20 All right, we're starting off with some people to thank for being executive producers and associate executive producers for show 1040 which didn't turn out to be such a great number. I liked your whole 1040 idea was funny. I could have maybe expanded it to you know 1040 dimes i could have done the whole bit but i did nah we just need to focus on regional stuff So we have the number one donor is Anonymous in NorCal, who sent a note and he wants to be anonymous. And so he's sent in a Western Union money gram. John and Adam here is a long overdue token, it's in Longhand which is another way of saying cursive. We used to call it Long Hand. Here's a long overdue token of my esteem for your continuing efforts. Hopefully this note in cursive

1:04:13 or longhand than when I was a kid, will make up for my slackness. If the pain you suffer gathering these clips is in any way proportional to the pain I suffer in listening to them not in a bad way I assume, you have truly earned this check." Gotta go my head is killing me from writing this. No, my hand is killing me from writing this note Yeah, you know right? You know your hand starts to ache if you need to ID me in the future please Use rights like crap That was it all right well Thank you very much for your courage and appreciate that NJNK for him apparently okay sir Marcellus $333 and 33 cents

1:05:00 And he writes, keep up the great work. Show after show is amazing! Album art is amazing! Producers sound bites and jingles are amazing! Songs and remixes are amazing! Your analysis is amazing! So it sounds like James Patterson. I love how there's always discussions and disagreements about each other's analysesms. I made up this word. The show is absolutely fantastic when you disagree and discuss your different analysesms Like it and loving it. Thank you, Sir Marcellus." Okay? No jingles, no nothing. All right! Thank you! Tiffany Fiedler in Wauwatosa Wisconsin and she writes... Let me just start off this note

1:05:47 with the fact that I'm turning 33. Is she on the list? Yes, she is. On June 8th hence the 333 donation also i'm looking for some sweet sweet karma for my upcoming brain surgery on june 20th what this is don't worry it's not a tumour oh yeah it's my first donation so please deduce you've been de-douche Thank you guys for everything. My husband has been listening to you for so long that we have a set of commemorative coins for our wedding day, October 10th 2010-10-10 He always tried hitting me in the mouth but I wasn't into podcasts So i never gave in Then he broke down the six week cycle for me and I've been hooked ever since Nice

1:06:34 My husband and I deconstruct together every night that we cook dinner together or take long car rides. This is, I will say...I do this with Tina, I'm sure you do it with Mimi. This is how you...this is real connection when you do the deconstruction together. Well, I would say if you're with a partner of any sort and your no agenda folk You probably are a happier couple than if you're just two people bickering about the news that you believe wholeheartedly. It comes out of any of these networks, or worse, the cables. I ask you guys to raise awareness for the horrendous disease that has laid me down for a year-long path to brain surgery. It's rare so almost no one knows about it but for those suffering its most likely the most difficult experience in their lives.

1:07:27 TN, which means trigeminal neuralgia. I'm hoping to pronounce it right there. Also known as the suicide disease. It's known for the electric shocks that cause excruciating pain whenever the weather is off or the wind hits our face or someone looks at us the wrong way. Adam, the best way I can explain it is this every time you suffer from a physical or verbal Tourette's tick Just grab a taser and tase yourself in the face. Wow, it's that bad and I'm not kidding my goodness And that's why she's having the brain surgery this is crazy disease I don't know what they do but if but it's known as the suicide disease I presume because It's like tasing yourselves you want to kill yourself geez yes must horrible Please grace me with some health karma random Sharpton mix 33 is the magic number maybe some shape-shifting Jew

1:08:23 The neighborhood watch captain says he shot the teen in self-defense. But the young man was not armed, He was going back home after buying an iced tea and skillet's candy No name calling no incendiary language just a fax A young man dead The assailant says self-defense. What is found on the young man? Skillets and iced tea. Roll up, roll up for the magical shapeshifting juice! Step right this way! Roll up! Roll up for the shape shifting juice! Roll up! For my gentle shapeshifting juice! 33 That's a magic number. Oh there he is

1:09:18 It's the magic number. You've got karma, right? Extra extra collage for you, Tiffany. Yeah, geez onward to a Sir Don Silva in Iwa Beach, Hawaii You're welcome. Alright! 250 bucks, he's gonna be an associate executive producer He did send a note in with the check He hasn't sent much in recently but I do remember him Please excuse my typed letter A stroke? He probably had a stroke in some...recently I'm guessing So we have the best producers ever but they're dying

1:09:57 Well, a stroke makes it difficult for me to do handwriting now. It's not impossible but extremely difficult." Look at his signature here, by the way his name is... looks like he used too so he's probably in pretty good shape. I've tried several times now and gave it up if I'm ever going to get this done this donation to you. I've been a fan of John before No Agenda and later Adam your show was intelligent and insightful. I think you should do exactly as you wish If you're tired doing the show then stop! It will be a great loss for us listeners. The decision, though is up to you and not for us to decide." I was just hearing your voices... It would be a great loss of my apartment, uh, my car. It would be a great loss. Hearing your voices after these many years, you taught me a lot about the media for which I'm grateful. Here's my donation to the show best wishes in the coming years for all your endeavors

1:10:47 So wisdom from an 82 year old night. Yes, sir Don now I remember thank you for your courage sir Thank you is a to yes, so I'm gonna give me some health karma You've got speaking of which you dropped quite a bombshell in the newsletter. I'm getting a cataract surgery tomorrow morning are you? Nervous no not really I'd be tied beside mice I've of course I've never had any procedure, so I'd be beside myself with angst and My eye in my I know less Machine on and the laser start chopping away at your bracket in that opens up your whole Man movies, I don't want to watch you have asked someone to take a picture. Oh

1:11:38 No, I don't want anyone taking a picture. Come on! I wanna see it not for publication just wanna see it. Nah nah nah So they laser off your lens...I read up on it They laser off your lens and then they give you a bionic eye Yeah So, you know everything I see gets reported to the Langley. Now you've chosen for the Bausch and Lomb, I believe? Yes, Bausch and Lomb. You didn't want Zeiss? You didn't think that the Zeiss lenses were good? They're all good they're probably all fine but i'm going with these and then we'll see what they think and then write a little giblet about it and Bausch and Lomb will buy out of copies and pass them out to their potential customers That's how we roll!

1:12:19 Perfect. But, but there may be some bruising is that at the bottom line you may experience some bruising for a few days where you'd be blind for a few days. Well, you don't get to see very well for awhile, but I'm talking to my friend, uh, the artist Bert Monroy and I'm good posted visit with him and he's, uh, I said, I have to get my operations. What are you doing? He says, uh, I said, I'm getting a cataracts He says, oh I've had both eyes. This guy's like a fine artist and he says when i had my first one done everything looked so different that I demanded they do the other one right away. Damn! And of course they won't do two eyes at once and... Now if you don't like the lens can they is it reversible to put not reversible but can I put a different one in?

1:13:15 I didn't gotten that far in the conversation. I don't expect it to be a problem, okay? This is the lens I adaptive lens is the one I want because I for the very cuz they work on the computer so much night Oh So it has near focal and near bifocal basically It's not bifocal it actually works like a lens it did smooth wiggles around in your eyeball oh There's a third kind which is this this weird just got these little it's like a it's like a a Fresnel lens it's got these little circles on it and your brain has to decide how to interpret. I just had this thought, do you think that you'll be winking a lot while are you getting used to it? And all the girls would be like there is that creepy guy again he's yeah we can have me even I wear sunglasses to avoid that but I find it very interesting and I you're brave man

1:14:03 I have to have this done. It's like one of these things when you get a situation, a cataract that blurs your vision you have to have this done. You don't have a choice and is this a hereditary thing? Can i get it just by touching you? Almost everybody ends up with these. Oh noes! Yeah you will probably get one unless you really wear sunglasses in the sun and avoid... I'm a celebretti of course I wear sunglasses indoor And at night. Okay, go back to your pink those pink lenses you stole well I guess i'll do the spreadsheet on Sunday then so this is Don Silva $250 uh Mike and finally last on our list is Mike Sabres two hundred dollars and thirty-eight cents he says what he says it's a scam why would I donate to the show

1:15:00 that the show could end, our recent 38-47. That wasn't what we asked! We said is it beyond its usefulness? Even if we're of no use and will have to continue Yeah, I got to try this again. And with that explanation and nobody seemed to get it. No. And I mean by the way, I don't even want to do the votes because it was like so over 100 yes votes and just stay with the show and no none of the 37s. I mean all the 30 sevens turned out to be false positives or false negatives Because it was like they put the 37 cents down say yeah, I want to show to continue. Yeah You have the question right? I mean this so I can't dislike there was a scam It was just no good well wasn't a scam it was just an epic fail. He wasn't that wasn't epic It wasn't Bill Clinton okay, just a fail. It was fail. It was fair all right Well we you know what let me finish his note you do two weeks It's okay for some of them not to work Thank you for your work and nj j ob sk

1:16:05 for my new job not to suck. So he wants NJ Jobs Karma? What's NJ, New Jersey? No jingles. Nobody wants jobs karma. Okay! No jingle jobs karma. Jobs, jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs You've got karma. All righty, well thank you very much everybody for supporting the program these are executive producers and associate executive producers real credits that can be used anywhere credits are recognized Since these people are really stepping up, we want to make sure we thank them in a starting segment before we get to our secondary thank you which is just like the movies. It's the real deal! Now yeah and movies credits come at the end... We don't even do that but they have credits at the beginning for the people that count then they put the minions, the peons at the end. Yeah, we don't do this.

1:17:04 separate segment because we don't consider anyone to be a minion or peon. I agree and so we don't do it at the end, there's a lot of podcasts that do stuff at the end yeah which is they thank a bunch of people and produce by you know we have a show runner thanks for the catering yeah exactly now we like we like because the show wouldn't work without our producers we don't have listeners we are producers and we thank you very much and remember we have another show coming up on Sunday Uh, where we will get the full rundown on John's cataract surgery. Devorak dot org slash N A So go out there! No you know what? Stay home your spouse hit that one in the mouth Our formula is this We go out...we hit people in the mouth Order Shut up slave Shut up slave

1:18:01 I didn't mention other podcasts and i want to play something that uh... Iran into going through my archives if you haven't noticed on the uh... alley on the street on the tweeters we everyone is enjoying your two things it's like oh john found the news generator fake news jenny was fun in the other words up john's cleaners something out he's doing something with the archive sees tweed mystery losers yeah his movements so i moved the desk So I moved some stuff around with my latest Windows update. And, um... I ran into this and I don't know who the pod- This is a pie from a podcast. Somebody might be able to identify who this guy is but he's a podcaster delivering an advertisement and it was just- I don't know why this- Maybe we did play on the show and I forgot about it? But I have no idea why- I mean this is the worst kind of- To me

1:18:59 It just epitomizes the, oh this is a...you know I've got that mattress and I'm using it. It's fantastic you should all buy one but listen to this one! This is bugs." I was wondering what Clipper was going to be? Yeah sorry. But first let's talk about bugs because this episode is brought to you by ExoProtein. That's E-X-O protein And when you go to exoprotein.com, you can use code BEN for a 10% discount. Now before you stop listening because this is just yet another protein powder or protein bar, you should know that ExoProtein is actually made from crickets.

1:19:56 They're actually as natural to eat as fruits and vegetables in most cultures, except these popular Western cultures that we live in. And they are a more complete form of protein than many of the livestock alternatives. Even though they have just as much protein as other forms of meat, crickets are 20 times more efficient for raising proteins compared to cattle and produce 100 times less greenhouse gases. Yes apparently crickets fart less than cows! Anyways, they're high in protein. They contain all essential amino acids. They've got over twice the iron of spinach. They've got a ton of B vitamins and the ones from ExoBars are cricket protein sources that I like because they're natural, they're dairy-free, gluten free, grain free, soy free, paleo certified etc... Apparently taste free as well! Man, that's disgusting!

1:20:49 Hmm, I don't know. Totally disgusting and he's very serious about this because it is one of his sponsors Yeah of course! Of course He doesn't eat this stuff He'll say you will I ran across an article about the Chinese... Mark Hall, in his previous documentary was about tuna Sushi really It was about tuna Anyway The takeaway if China ever really gets into Eating sushi, then the ocean will dry up and we'll all be dead that was kind of the idea because you know the bluefin and everything that the whole ecosystem it lives around it and Luckily, that's not happening. Because the Chinese are really getting into cockroach sushi How about that? Well good for the Chinese Nothing like fresh food

1:21:49 I love bugs. I love bugs! Bugs, bugs, bugs! Tasty! Tastes like poop. That was the worst jingle in the world. And one of our favorites... Yes, I have to say Now, that could be our show if we were having a you know taking advertising. If you know Tony Bologna phrase imagine insincere, just totally insincere nonsense we'd be doing. It's just, it's not... I got some note from some nasty-ass, well you know your guy, he goes uppity about your thing and about your status as a, that you don't have ads and you do this and that, it's bull crap but it's not bull crap. That guy? Yeah that guy the bull crap guy anyway. It's not bull crap. Just thought we would give an example of something I was just like taking aback found in the archives!

1:22:55 The Anti-Defamation League has a database, and it is the database of hate symbols. And I had no idea there were so many seemingly...a lot of numerology actually but seemingly innocuous symbols that are all hate symbols. Oh God, I can imagine! And I'd like to run through a couple with you So i guess they're just all related to swastika? Well we have 1-11 That is the numeric symbol used by the Aryan Knights One dash eleven? Yes so either three ones but it says January 11th Yeah kind of like that

1:23:45 A 100%. Now I have the 100% emoji. But yeah, that little 100% emoji is a hate symbol? 100% is shorthand for 100% white among white supremacists It's also common to create alphanumeric variations to proclaim solidarity with a particular white supremacist group or gang such as 112% for 100%, Aryan Brotherhood And then poor old number 12 is a hate symbol. Oh no! Yes, the number 12 was numeric symbol for the Aryan Brotherhood groups as far as numbers 1 and 2 separately especially the Aryan Brotherhood of Texas but wait... The number 13 is also a hate symbol that is the numerics- numeric symbol for the Aryans Circle again Texas based racist prison gang and then there's number 14

1:24:45 14 is the numerical shorthand for the white supremacist slogan known as the fourteen words. I have heard of this one The fourteen words are we must secure the existence of our people and a future in the future for our white children So those fourteen would so the number fourteen just showing forty or fourteen words or fourteen slash twenty three That's a 14 of course is the references the 14 words and 23 refers to the 23 precepts A list of rules that the Southern Brotherhood members must follow same goes for 1488 combination of two common white supremacist numeric symbols fourteen again for the fourteen words and 88 is 4-4 is heil Hitler and

1:25:29 18, well I don't have to tell you. It's again it's number one is the A and that's for the Adolf and the 8 is for the H for Hitler Adolf Hilter sorry number eighteen your off the list 21 2 12 nice palindrome oh no hate symbol members of The Unforgiven a Florida based racist prison gang used numeric symbols 21-2-12 as a slogan The 211 crew, the 23 hand sign. The 23 16 28 3 18 33 6 This number...the number 33 is used by the Ku Klux Klan adherents to signify the Ku Klux Klan Since the 11th letter of the alphabet is k Three k's signify KKK or the Ku Klux Klan Clan members will frequently follow this with a number six To indicate the historical era

1:26:25 I mean, 38? 43? 5 words. 511? 737! Hello Boeing?! The number 737 is a numeric symbol used by public enemy number one PENI, a California-based white supremacist gang which represents on California streets and in its prisons the number 737 corresponds to the lenders PDS on a telephone keypad That stands for Penny Death Squad. Holy crap! 83 is a hate symbol, 88 we already went through that...

1:27:01 It just keeps on going, John. All these numbers... This sounds like this is ridiculous and then they talk about the number 13 and never mention MS-13? The very nasty Mexican... No, John! This is only for white people! ABC, it's a race that's one two three White supremacists don't break me ABC 1, 2, 3 baby you're not seen. ABC it's as racist as 123 what's the premises door? A B A B C 1,2,3 baby you're not seen. There ya go Sir Chris Wilson on the ball as always Entire packages now show up in my email box Read this here is the punchline beautiful thankyou

1:27:55 The Supreme Court case was exactly what I said it would be, about the gay baker and the bakery in Colorado who did not want to make the gay wedding cake. Yeah, and it was rather interesting how it was picked up by the media which is what we'd like to deconstruct Pretty much consistently everyone talked about it being a very narrow ruling very narrow ruling And I did read the ruling and it said in there. This is a narrow case But the way ever made it sounds like oh so close but no It was seven two two I think yeah, but that's not what narrow refers to I know

1:28:33 But everyone's all bent out of shape about that. I noticed that so I uh Senator to is pretty lopsided Yeah, that would be pretty crushing actually yeah but I read the I read the ruling and Beside there being a very distinct artistic freedom piece in it Colorado's law, you know actually does not recognize same-sex marriage which was also a part of the ruling. It's like well Yeah Isn't that interesting now that of course was completely? interpreted differently by the ladies of view The Supreme Court sided with Colorado baker Jack Phillips who refused to bake a cake for our gay couple citing religious objections and artistic freedom yeah So it wasn't it was based on an artistic endeavor

1:29:26 So for instance, I'm an artist. I'm a stand-up comic. I'll just give myself an example. I'll just use myself. Clang that in! I want to play it again. Clang her when she says that. I'm an artist. I'm a comedian... It was based on an artistic endeavor So, for instance I'm an artist. I'm a stand-up comic. Let me just give myself an example They asked me to perform for hate group or say Steve Bannon's birthday party I could say no you know based on my beliefs and I think why doesn't okay never mind It was similar to this although it was a very narrow ruling the same so it does not spread out

1:30:05 You can back me up on this. The lawyer does not mean that every baker gets this same ruling. Yeah, bring in the lawyer who didn't read the actual document. Am I right? Nobody knows. Yes and no. It sets a precedent but it is a narrow ruling and i think what the Supreme Court was trying to do-and we talked about this on the show-trying to balance of course the gay couple's rights but with also someone's religious beliefs and that's a very difficult balancing act No, it's not. It wasn't the main part of the decision! It was you can't force someone to be creative on demand and especially not when you have other bakeries in Colorado who refuse to make—and this was a good gambit I didn't know it took place—who refused to make an anti-gay wedding cake

1:30:59 Interesting that was a good setup whoever did that there were three or four bakers said oh I'm not gonna put an anti-gay wedding cake together you can't force me to do that. Not surprised by the decision, i thought that was going to be the decision when we talked about it but I want to read it more... How about reading at all your dits? At length before I... I wanna read it at length You didn't read it. disagree with this because one, I just disagree on its face. Um...I love the gays." Wow! I love the gays. She said, I love the gays. I love the gays which means all gays are the same

1:32:03 That's an incredibly bigoted statement. Yeah, because I love the gays really? I'll introduce you to a couple of gays you may not like lady. Lovely man and very rooted in his beliefs. I disagree with this yeah because one i just disagree on its face um...I love the gays. I love the gays! They're so great to go to parties with! Jeez. Um, two I think it's also a slippery slope because i think when you start allowing people certain freedoms based on almost the discrimination of someone else even if its just the wedding cake where do we stop? A slippery slope?

1:32:47 But I love that they take this bakery, which is... and i'll just reiterate my position. Which turns out it's the Supreme Court's position in general. Is if you cannot refuse to serve someone You know a product that you have in your store That would be discrimination and we have protected classes I pretty sure the gays are not protected in Colorado or anywhere for that matter But you know, it's you reserve the right not to serve anybody but your dick It's like then you're clearly a bigot if you don't want to serve someone an existing product but to force someone by law To make something they don't want to make. I don't care what it is

1:33:31 Yeah, I agree. It doesn't matter! You can't... Imagine this someone going to the court and suing The No Agenda Show for not talking about something? Well, I'd like to know and the thing that's not discussed and you're not mentioning it is your article piece who voted NO? Who were the two people? Well who do you think? Ginsburg would be one of them. Yes. And the other one? Not Sotomayor. Sotomayor was all in Who was the other one? Troll Room should know That is an obvious one The only real obvious one is Ginsberg, who's just a dipshit OG RGB as she's called She has this gang name now Yeah it's true OG RGB

1:34:26 No, Sotomayor...the troll room doesn't know either. Sotomayor was for it. Thanks. Who could be? Breyer? Kennedy? Kennedy? I don't think so. Well there you go. Somebody needs to know this is a thing that's important to me. Okay but we're on the topic of discrimination. I think I got a little ageist clip here. Ah! Is this about IBM? No, it's about a new show coming up. I was reading that IBM is some court case apparently for the past maybe five years they've been letting go over 20 thousand people who are over 40. Curiously?

1:35:17 This is 40, the same kind of thing. Uh-huh? This is on ABC that one of the horrible networks and when they get rid of Roseanne and then they would put this on this I think it's gonna replace Rosanne It's called The Rookie Oh yeah! Yeah! Yeah! I saw a preview of this And it's about a forty year old guy who becomes a rookie cop and the line which is going to be hard to hear but there's about two thirds of the way through The black woman and they have these a lot of stories now I have, they've introduced a lot of black characters. They did it with black women not black men like men or you know they give them wide range of characters they play but black women always play some horrible person

1:35:58 And I don't know why they're doing it, and I think the black community should be up in arms about it. But they're just dicks! And this black woman... Sorry? I'm sorry, this black woman's a dick and she says that- That's because you're old as hell! Officer John Nolan, I'm here to work and I won't let you down You get to ride with a 40 year old rookie Sergeant Gray does not appear to be a fan of my presence Because your old as hell The Rookie coming his fault Yeah, its ageist Because you're old as hell? Yeah. But I want to know, we have cops that listen to this show... Forty's not old! Forty is not old?! Forty is not old but apparently on this show on ABC forty's old as hell. Hey if your 40 your old as hell. I'm 53 and I- You're over the hill man. I ride better than the 25 year olds in spin class so I don't know what's wrong they give up they got no stamina

1:36:54 Can I just lose the weight without doing anything? By the way, it was Sotomayor. So it was OG RGB and Sotomayor they were against it everyone else was for yeah forced labor there by me for slavery to those two says what it is amounts do you have to do what I say yes Anyway, so you had some tech news. You told me at some tech news? I would you did your tech new thing and I kind of Now more think about it the more I'm gonna put it off because what I want to talk I need To have the details and names some of stuff but something new up business windows has gone through this new new new version There's a couple little gotchas in there that I get does it was this tell me about it What is I have the new version oh

1:37:41 Yeah, what's the problem? Okay now you go I see. I can't run the new version on my nook Because it just said old but yeah, I have the new version But you know there used to be right next down at the bottom of your screen Do you have a this crap at the bottom and little icons yeah, I got crap here. Yeah, okay Now you see that open box as a search box. Yeah You see that little thing next to it add this circle is it a circle Oh, you mean that yeah, I know what you mean yes The task view was what it says Yeah, task view. Well there's a new version of that it's not task view anymore It's called something else no it is task I've seen it because the icon changed It is new but okay. Okay? I don't know if it works got a timeline on it Yes Old Task View never did that now click on it yeah and open up your screen

1:38:32 And now there's a little timeline on the side and you see all the stuff that you've been looking at. You did, yeah. For the last number of days which never used to exist. This never used to exist and so now And you can turn it off, there's a problem. You gotta go deep into your settings and you can find a way to turn it off so that doesn't do this unless you want it too but every nude photo you happen to click on is... When you're going through the archives- I see the problem! When you go through the archives, there's a lot of stuff you click and oh what is this? Now, I turned mine off like don't have this issue but here's what I'm thinking

1:39:14 Hey, can I borrow your computer for a second? Oh yeah. Let me take a look at your timeline and you hit the button down there and the next thing you know it You open up there And it's got a slider so you can go back as far as this things going It usually goes back to when they was first installed But you know that you say has been going on for months you can go back and look at somebody else's timeline effortlessly and spy on them. This is not a good feature to just drop on the public out of the blue without really giving it, I mean oh well you go to the website they'll tell you the new features in Windows and how you can change the variables and all the rest no nobody does that they just run the install

1:39:58 They get the new version, which has some other features too that are kind of cool. And then you got this little gotcha... What other features that are kind of cool? Oh there's some other stuff I can't... Hold on here is the number one thing that pissed me off they turned on Cortana again! I didn't want that don't install a new thing and turn it back on because i was talking to my tube and then went hey tube which is his name hey tube and uh and oh did then cortana went blip blip blip Can I help you like what Listening again. Well, you can turn it... It's easy to disable. But yes they do a lot of that stuff in this little gotcha timeline thing really is like this is a spy tool! This is not something that you know oh and here's the thing about it here's what really bugs me it doesn't even work right all it does is spy on you because here's an example I left it on because I was playing with it so you go to a web browser

1:40:55 You got five tabs open in the browser and you look and there are all different kinds of things that you want to keep track of. You close one of the tabs, let's say by accident, you go to the timeline It doesn't reappear. So that I was using it, and I was playing with it... ...I was doing something on this web page and I turned it off but because it's within the browser the browser has to have its own timeline you know what we have to go to browser history so this thing doesn't even work right all of this insanity started when they stopped giving you free versions to beta test yeah you would have told you would've set them straight

1:41:33 Well, whatever. I did get off that used to be on the beta test list and now... I know! It seems it was my tech news but it was not really tech news it was a tech complaint yeah I keep warning people out there if you got that little thing that little new icon in the corner there go through they go to settings and yet you'll find or go to privacy go to settings go to privacy within the privacy category you'll find ways to turn that thing off Another life-saving relationship saving tip from the no agenda show oh yeah Job saving tip perhaps you imagine for sure. Oh, yeah That's not good by default I agree that said that should not be something it just appears that is a privacy violation And I think so clearly face bag back in the news

1:42:21 And when I first read the story, I'm like oh geez of course. Of course I could have known this was taking place because if you've ever set up a newish phone whether it's iOS or Android or a television for that matter You probably saw that you could enter your face bag credentials right into some system setting of the phone and why yeah? and well that had a reason which NPR discussed. all without their explicit consent. I gather you actually tried this out yourself, you got a BlackBerry phone? That's right we plugged in my Facebook account information to this Blackberry phone after deleting the app and right away it started sucking down all kinds of information It got my email address and cell phone number

1:43:26 both sides of my private messages and the names and user IDs of the people I exchanged messages with. We got the names, birthdays work in education histories of nearly all of my 550 friends And then we were actually able to push it a little further and recover the names and pretty important user ID from their friends, which ended up taking us from about 550 people to about 295 thousand people just from a single account. How worried should I be? Should I be worried? Well, I mean first of all there's obvious value in being able to open your photo album and post something directly to Facebook without opening the app. You're saying there are practical ways this may be really helpful to Facebook users? Right or view your friends birthdays right from your native contact book

1:44:14 I'm and then do who knows what with it. What's Facebook saying in response to your story? Facebook has put out a statement saying it disagrees with our story, but they haven't disputed any of the facts. They say that in the cases of these device partnerships they consider the outside companies extensions of Facebook not third parties. They also appear to be making the case that when my device collects the data of my friends I then own that information

1:44:57 And it's up to me whether I want to risk sharing it or not by syncing it up with other apps. So again, we see that the actual problem in all of this is the phone itself It's not just face bag. It's what the phone itself has and exposes anyone who builds an app! I just play Angry Birds personally on the phone Oh dude there are all kinds of spyware in Angry Birds Are you kidding me? Yeah...I'm worried about it Well you should be It's abhorrent, it's abhorrent. But in the EUs they're going after really... you wrote a pretty good article about the GDPR, sorry, the General Data Protection Regulation and what was your summation? Was basically

1:44:57 And it's up to me whether I want to risk sharing it or not by syncing it up with other apps. So again, we see that the actual problem in all of this is the phone itself It's not just face bag. It's what the phone itself has and exposes anyone who builds an app! I just play Angry Birds personally on the phone Oh dude there are all kinds of spyware in Angry Birds Are you kidding me? Yeah...I'm worried about it Well you should be It's abhorrent, it's abhorrent. But in the EUs they're going after really... you wrote a pretty good article about the GDPR, sorry, the General Data Protection Regulation and what was your summation? Was basically

1:45:51 Nothing will ever happen. There will be some well my summation was what it turned out to be I mean, I don't like it man I think is the way that gouge American companies have they get away with it because they love to do that But it turns out that the way all these things work in with high-tech companies is that it always does a fallback to best practices. And so what will happen will be some organizational crop up, some bogus organization and all these big companies will pay $10,000 a year to become members of and they'll develop these best practices. And then everyone would just follow the leader and they all do this best practice. So if anybody gets sued over anything, they can go to court and say hey

1:46:32 We follow best practices. This is all you can do according to this group that says that this is all you can do, the rest of it's bogus and so they make themselves harmless, blameless I mean they can't get sued and this how it always boils down It's just another scam. Here is the latest that the EU is doing and this is a new regulation that I think it still in proposal Yes, I've heard about this. This is good Yeah well...it's good and not good. It's good because... No, I mean its good you're talking about But yeah but it's not good because they are very vague This is the directive of European Parliament and of the Council on copyright in digital single market

1:46:32 We follow best practices. This is all you can do according to this group that says that this is all you can do, the rest of it's bogus and so they make themselves harmless, blameless I mean they can't get sued and this how it always boils down It's just another scam. Here is the latest that the EU is doing and this is a new regulation that I think it still in proposal Yes, I've heard about this. This is good Yeah well...it's good and not good. It's good because... No, I mean its good you're talking about But yeah but it's not good because they are very vague This is the directive of European Parliament and of the Council on copyright in digital single market

1:47:18 And and you know, so there's I mean when it comes down to copyright this is this is a very very complicated Topic particularly when you look at copyright in multiple countries and unions etc. But coming out of this is something clearly aimed at the Googles and the binges as The measure that is being proposed in this draft is which I think, maybe they endorse it or vote on it tomorrow. So this measure would allow press publishers to ask search engines to pay them for showing articles for up to one year after publication. There was an original proposal that foreseen giving publishers the right to ask for payment for up to 20 years

1:48:12 It also forces YouTube to seek a license from every single rights holder for displaying their content. And this is very interesting when it comes to music video, Google has been... YouTube has really been ripping off artists into an extreme amount with how they monetize music videos So I think that this and moreover because it's so vague, and it's not they're not really stating anything It's in the show. Yeah, but you can see where this is headed This is the same thing that happened to cable networks at first You know it was like if you set up a cable, and this is the classic example of what? I don't know what to call it But a switchback might not be a bad word or the cable networks are all of sudden doing everybody a favor And they are

1:49:03 They've got the cable so you can see this San Francisco stations in some rural area because they have, it used to be called the community antenna. And so it was doing everybody a favor and then the cable networks said hey you know you should pay to be on this and they started saying you guys should pay to be on this network cause we're rebroadcasting your stuff and that sounded like a good idea for awhile. And then all of the sudden as the cables became more important, over the air which is still available everywhere it got turned around and all this says you should be paying us to reproduce our content so it just switched, it went turned around instead of us paying you, you pay us! That little debate shows up

1:49:48 As a major trend it happens everywhere and it was just a matter of time, It seems to me before Google had to pay I mean because at first you wanted to be on Google. Let me back up on that MTV had a huge issue They had the music videos and Of course they had a blanket license Which you have to have To play into for any kind of music but to get around I think was the sync rights Some it was the sync right because there would be no royalty for the video director anyway long story short what MTV they had a consent decree Decree and The agreement was at the beginning and end of every video within the first 10 in last ten seconds every music video they would show the

1:50:39 The album that the song was from, that was for the record labels. Because they go man people don't want to buy albums anymore And the second one is they had to share... The video's director So giving credit was how they kind of got around paying for some of that But now we have and I'm always suspicious of these groups I love this SaveYourInternet.eu This thing has Google written all over it Don't let the EU break our internet. Tell your member of European Parliament to save it before June 20th. June 20th, the European Parliament will vote on the copyright directive. Members of the parliament are the only ones that can stand in the way of bad copyright legislation. Tell them you need to protect your internet." Now when you read this thing... This whole website is not especially Article 13 I guess is what they're talking about

1:51:31 Doesn't really explain what the problem is. They just have little cartoons you look at it John save your internet dot EU So here's article 13 threatens blogging platforms, and there's a girl they're like let me plug Article 13 threatens gamers that live stream And there's a gamer in a chair going let me livestream article 13 threatens discussion platforms and There's a little reddit with the girl Let Me Comment Article 13 threatens the sharing of memes. Oh, no. Oh, you're breaking that Tom It's save your internet dot EU oh an article 13 threatens the sharing of parodies Let me parody all right let's take a look at article 13 this is not pissing me off What are these people doing? Do you see this website doesn't it look like a? Doesn't it look like

1:52:26 You know, basically a total Silicon Valley job. It looks so it looks a little more amateurish than I think Google could accomplish in this day and age maybe 10 years ago but i don't know who's... Okay now you see all dumb now look at all of those things at the bottom what it threatens and I'm going to read article 13 to you Okay, so you see all the things like oh it's gonna I will be able to live stream by the way the group The group involved in this it would have to be on this list and I don't see Google But I do see they can even read the first electronic frontier foundation looks kind of like their work Creative Commons Wikimedia civil liberties for you X net a lot is new who knows who these people are stuff It's got to be one of these guys now who?

1:53:15 Yeah, well you know it's all private. The domain names are all private I tried to figure that out Just by the way to me is a giveaway that somebody is behind it. Why would you do that? Why would you make something that supposed to be so for humanity Private! You hide it, anonymize owner of website give me a break So article 13 I'm looking at...I presume this is chapter 1, chapter 2 Article 13 here we go use of protected content by information society service providers storing and giving access to large amounts of works and other subject matter uploaded by their users this is a User-generated content right? I think it's just three paragraphs, and we should go through this one Information Society service providers. This is new information society service providers What the hell is this?

1:54:13 That's new. It used to be information providers, information service providers... But what is this society business? What's it called again? Information Society? Yeah! Information Society Service Members. Uh, Service Providers So I guess if you're an information society Well maybe there's a definition hold on I'm looking it up keep reading Ohhhh....I want to see the document it might be in the document itself If they have a definition Did you see nope they don't okay? And I'll interrupt yes, and I got to go back to the top here. Where are we? Where is 13 people just lost it Jesus a big document Okay Here we go article 13 But while you're looking why are you trying to find your way to try that but here it is I got it

1:55:10 Information Society service providers that store and provide to the public access to large amounts of works or other subject matter uploaded by their users shall, in cooperation with rights holders Take measures to ensure the functioning of agreements concluded with right holders for the use of their works or other subject matter, or to prevent the availability on their services of works or other subject matter identified by rights holders through cooperation with service providers. Those measures such as the use of effective content recognition technologies shall be appropriate and proportionate

1:55:50 The service provider shall provide rights holders with adequate information on the functioning and development of the measures as well as, when relevant, adequate reporting on recognition and use of works in other subject matter. Two, member states shall ensure that the service providers referred to in paragraph one put in place complaints and redress mechanisms that are available to users in case of disputes over the application of the measures referred to in paragraph one. Oh this is juicy! And three finally member state shall facilitate where appropriate the cooperation between the information society service providers and right holders through stakeholder dialogues

1:56:30 to define best practices such, Jesus John you're from the future. Such as appropriate and proportionate content recognition technologies taking into account among others the nature of the services, the availability of the technologies and their effectiveness in light of technological developments so we could sue anybody who's hosting a copy of our show I guess in Europe We could, but we've encouraged it. I know a lot of trouble making it work. No, there's the definition the free definition, the Free Dictionary Company Information Society Service, a concept within European e-commerce comprising any service normally provided for remuneration

1:57:18 At a distance. At a distance? At a distance, meaning that you know it's like you set something up and its like automatic and your just not handling... You're no moderation by means of electronic equipment for the processing including digital compression and storage of data at the individual request of a recipient of a service that covers internet service providers See also caching and hosting. It's a hosting, you know... Well this is not just hosting this is for Facebag Google Bing everybody yeah and what you're seeing is the news media saying oh this is great yeah vote that in then google have to pay us bitches pay us for your pay us for the news which is of course very adversarial position to take

1:58:11 and may not be the best way to go for them because then no one will read their stupid news. Well, they're dumb over there but let's look at it from another perspective this is again that switchback phenomenon where you start your pain one way and then they're paying you the other way after a while so right now Google is more valuable to them because you get your links in fact all these lot of these publishers in Europe You know that member years ago, we don't want Google to cover us because they're caching our pages. They wanted good pay back then. So they took them right off the search engine now if you wanted to find anything about these companies or even know that they exist do not get it from Google

1:58:53 And so that's like, you know and most people in their right minds would pay Google if they could. And they do I guess in their advertising model to give them listings but you know you want people because people go to Google or Bing for that matter and they type something in and then they wanna find you your site. So that's right now the way this is the value. They're trying to reverse it. I think they're premature. So from this page how was the internet awesome The internet lets us access more information than ever before, find a rich diversity of news sources keep in touch with our friends. Facebag Find new music and videos and more! Why is it so awesome? Because what you see and do online is up to you not some big business or bureaucrat That's rich

1:59:41 Coming from Google and Facebag. How is it threatened? The European Commission and the Council want to destroy the internet as we know it, And allow big companies to control what we see and do online! That's bullshit!! Has nothing to do with- that's a lie!!! It's the exact opposite... Should article 13 of the copyright directive proposal be adopted it will impose widespread censorship of all the content you share online. The European Parliament is the only one that can step in and save your internet No, no! You can set up a Mastodon server And don't charge for it and you'll be fine within parameters Of course but...you can have your own little website That won't be a problem This is against the big guys

2:00:29 Gee, I wish i could figure out who made this thing. Let's see maybe... Take a little work you probably call the EFF and ask them why they gave money to these guys and say who is it you gave the money too? That's what I'd do Are they on there are they on their as supporters? Yeah EFFs listed as one of the sponsors And they're, you know, they're pretty open about stuff. Yeah I'm just looking to see in the source of the page Everybody else is like, I've never heard of half these operations One of our producers out there can probably figure it out. I certainly couldn't do it with a trace route and not with a Whois lookup Even their name servers are protected So... Which is very sketchy when people do that I am very suspicious Well this is interesting so Creative Commons? They also supported this? The Creative Commons! Yeah why? It makes no sense

2:01:15 The Creative Commons is the antidote to this problem, I think. I've used it very successfully." So i don't know... well maybe you're misinterpreting it or maybe they made a mistake in proving it or maybe they're just being used. News publishers in Europe cheered the agreement calling it a quote decisive step in the right direction. We remain confident that policymakers will continue showing support for an exclusive right to underpin investment in the free and democratic European press, The European Newspapers Publisher Association said." This is going to be bad for both those guys can be good for us I think good in general just for the internet. I think of the opposite's gonna be great get rid of all the junk

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2:10:51 Well, I've got something that I want to play. They had this guy...there's an ITV report that was played on whatever independent television network out of England that PBS uses a lot to report a lot of crazy stories and they put this in here and I'm wondering why this was played at all It's about this guy, Eamon Dean who was an MI6 spy that had infiltrated Al Qaeda. And there is a little item in here within the report that makes you go what are they talking about? About this little item. Now this is a nice report about this spy

2:11:29 and he was now, he doesn't work for MI6 anymore supposedly. He's living a normal life but play this clip. By the 11th almost 3,000 people killed and Dean had known one of the hijackers by now though he'd moved to London using the need for medical treatment as cover to become a British spy Your job was to carry radios and phones into Afghanistan that enclosed MI6 bugging devices. Is that it? Well, more than that my job basically was to report on

2:12:05 locations of camps, the new training methods and the individuals coming in out. And also at the same time keeping up with Al-Qaeda's WMD program at that time. But if you were doing all that why did an attack like September 11th happen? If he wanted to stop 911 you have to have at least 12 spies inside al Qaeda and each one is inside one of the different departments only then you could have stopped it What was your biggest intelligence coup as far as you're concerned in terms of what you managed to prevent? Well there were several. I mean there was a plot to attack the New York subway with chemical weapons, a chemical device that was invented during my time actually in that specialist lab in Afghanistan

2:12:54 and I was reporting on it regularly to the UK Secret Services. He never visited MI6 headquarters, before any meeting he'd call his handlers from a series of phone boxes to be given a rendezvous and allow spotters from MI5 to check that he wasn't being followed His spying career ended in 2006 during a boat ride on holiday in Paris. He was told the Americans had leaked details of his identity to a journalist MI6 ordered him back to London Do you have any lasting regret that you betrayed people whom you had become friends with? No, I did not betray

2:13:41 I betrayed a bunch of criminals, as simple as that. I didn't know about this guy. Hadn't heard this story You knew about him? No no i had not had not did not know about he's out floating around bitching so i'm listening to this and it goes wait a minute somehow how somebody in the united states was telling reporters This guy? And they had to pull him, it was like somebody compromised. Was it a spy and a spy? What was the deal I couldn't figure out. So I looked into the leadership of this... It has to be CIA because they're the counterpart of MI6 and they would know about this guy especially if he's talking about putting bombs or doing gas in subways

2:14:31 So I'm looking, and thinking, ah yeah. I bet you this is that Muslim Brennan. Is that the voice you make when you think about it? Yeah when I think about Brennan. But no! It goes back to 2006 and this was obvious. It was Porter Goss who never shows up in the conversation. Porter Goss was the shortest CIA director. He's less than a year And he was kicked out around March or April after a meeting that he had with George Bush. And they just quit and they never said why if you look at his Wikipedia page, you notice he's out in March or April of 2006 and they brought in Michael Hayden who stayed in there till 2009 it's

2:15:11 doubtful as Hayden, who's kind of a freak. And so it had to be Gus and what was Gus doing slipping information like this to reporters? Obviously he didn't stay in the office for long after that but it seems pretty... What was going on but is it common for the CIA to just tell reporters about MI6 guys or why wasn't somebody arrested for this? Isn't illegal to out a spy Yeah, you can go to jail for it. Yeah well how come nobody went to jail for this? I don't know And who was the reporter there's a lot of untold stuff here but... So what is your conclusion? The guy drops the bomb! What?! What is your conclusion?

2:15:55 I think, I don't have anything further to say except that Porter Goss seems to be somehow involved in it because it makes sense with the timeline. But and he was so short-lived in that office but just like is this going a lot? How did this happen? I don't know any of the details they don't say anything but this guy's obviously outed himself as a spy and I think it's for that reason! And when he says it in his interview... The guy changed.. The interviewer changes subject. If they were talking to me I'd say what?! Who did that? Who was it, what do you know about this leak to the reporter. It's going on now... And this was on ITV you said, interesting. It was on ITN but it was on PBS but it was an ITN report and then it was like a sore thumb, it made no sense. But how does it fit into today?

2:16:50 He's got leakers. Oh gee Wow John Big development there I got a twofer here. I got a story and clip, and little story that goes with it you probably heard this the data of more than 92 million users of the genealogy website MyHeritage has been leaked after security breach The company announced that it learned about the breach yesterday They say it happened back in October last year MyHeritage says it was discovered by a security researcher who found email addresses and hashed passwords on a private server outside of the company's website

2:17:30 The company has set up a 24-7 security customer support team and they say they believe that only user emails were exposed My heritage says information about family trees and DNA data. We're not affected I've always said these central decentralized systems are no good, and I know there never been any good I guarantee you life lock or Equifax now lifelock one of these guys where you have everything stored Yeah down to your passport and all this stuff. Those guys are gonna get hacked too it's unavoidable It's it's the law of professor Ted's law you just can't get around it But this is relatable to and I did not know this bill had passed one of our producers a while ago I'm gonna say maybe almost a year ago certainly Seven or eight months had told us about this rapid DNA do you remember that?

2:18:21 Vaguely. Well, the Rapid DNA Act of 2017 passed and the president signed it and I want to share just remind you what it does The rapid DNA act establishes a system for rapid DNA's nationwide coordination amongst law enforcement departments by connecting it to the FBI's combined DNA index system Now this combined DNA index system is very important because, and we knew this from our producer. It can analyze a matched DNA in minutes! In minutes I tell you! Just like CSI versus the month week or sometimes annual just years it would take for this to happen so this is new technology and no one's really talking about

2:19:09 And I'm not well-versed in DNA stuffs at all. Well, Luminaidia is. Good but she needs to look into this... I'm thinking she is, I could be wrong She needs to send us a report immediately The Electronic Frontier Foundation expressed doubts about the accuracy of rapid DNA which is too late now because it's in and done and approved Rapid DNA quote, rapid DNA only has been tested on single source samples like a swab taken directly from a person's inner cheek And yet, rapid DNA manufacturers are trying to convince law enforcement agencies to buy these machines to get through their backlog of rape kits and for low-level property crimes. Situations where there's a very good chance the DNA came from multiple people some of whom may had no connection to the crime at all

2:19:57 So still all these doubts about the About DNA, but we've been we've been programmed to believe in it It's science after all and they can put a new eyeball on you. So I'm sure they can do this Yeah, they could do that no problem look into rapid DNA so there's a couple things going on that need to be discussed I Do have a five minute clip blitz of six clips? You want to do that now whenever you want okay? I will call for it yes Okay, Komi is gonna be lambasted by a report. Did you hear about this? Is this the OIG report I think it might be yeah where is this about the lures

2:19:57 So still all these doubts about the About DNA, but we've been we've been programmed to believe in it It's science after all and they can put a new eyeball on you. So I'm sure they can do this Yeah, they could do that no problem look into rapid DNA so there's a couple things going on that need to be discussed I Do have a five minute clip blitz of six clips? You want to do that now whenever you want okay? I will call for it yes Okay, Komi is gonna be lambasted by a report. Did you hear about this? Is this the OIG report I think it might be yeah where is this about the lures

2:20:40 I don't know about that. Hillary Clinton was on a flight to Iowa when it happened. FBI Director James Comey revealing, he'd reopened the investigation into her emails. A stunning October surprise just 11 days before the election. I learned about it on the campaign plane and...I was stunned to be honest. I didn't know what to think about it because I knew there was nothing there. I was just dumbfounded. I thought what is he doing?

2:21:27 Clinton huddled with age for nearly an hour. Secretary Clinton, any reaction to the FBI investigation? Her ass was one of Comey's biggest critics at the time heaped praise on the director and it took guts for Director Comey to make the move that he made. The Justice Department Inspector General has been looking into Comey's decision and now sources familiar with the draft of his report tell ABC News a senior Justice Department official had urged Comey not to reveal he was reopening the Clinton probe so close to the election doing so would violate long-standing department policy. But those sources also say the report concludes Comey defied authority more than once, one source telling ABC News a report describes Comey's behavior as insubordinate. Comey has defended his actions saying they were to protect the integrity of the FBI given what I knew at the time these were the decisions that were best calculated to preserve the values of the institutions

2:22:26 The draft report also criticized former Attorney General Loretta Lynch for not clearly recusing herself after she met President Clinton on her plane during that campaign, David. Yeah the guy is so disappointing to me I really wanted...I liked him! I really wanted to like him You wanted to like Comey? Yeah you see we're talking a long time ago He seemed like a straight shooter and yeah he had me bamboozled Yeah, yeah well. I don't know what this is the whole thing I don't know what the point of this is but it's something so well Comey needs to get slapped. I think that's what that was taking place and honestly deserves It he's one of those Democrats big D Yes, it's true Dogs are people too as witnessed by this report I wish I had a clip But they just won't do this no one's gonna pick this up as a news story

2:23:25 Michigan state health physicist charged with bestiality. Oh God! Yes, according to officials 51 year old Joseph Hattie of Hold, Michigan has been charged with two counts of committing... Wait you said health physicist? Physicist yes. Physicist?! That's what it says. Well that's weird What's a health physicist? Consult the book of knowledge I know what a physicist is but they're talking about the atoms and like I don't know what health has to do with it. Well, should that say physician or something? No no, I'm looking at the news story and says health physicist as the headline let me take a look see what health physicist is Health physics... health physicists jobs employment okay here we go medical physicists

2:24:20 Health physicist. Okay, you can make about six grand a month Works on the direction of radioactive materials inspection group or that's just Department of State health services I don't know what you do okay? Well apparently you screw dogs well no Hattie is accused of penetrating a dog with his penis and his hand The attorney, jeez! The Attorney General's office says the acts did not occur on campus or with an animal owned by MSU. Whew, well that's good. Officials... this is a great report. Wait a minute, is this Michigan State again? Yes. The same where they had that crazy doctor who was like... something's wrong with that school. They're still trying to track down the old president some woman

2:25:07 Who, I guess wasn't minding the school. I don't know what was wrong with him. It's terrible! This is known as a crime against nature and it's a 15 year sentence...it's a felony but now of course the question everybody's mind is what kind of dog was it? You want to take a guess? It reminds me of a couple of jokes that have funny punchlines. What kind of dog was it? It was Pekingese. No, no, nope, nope, nope, nope... Saint Bernard! Nope, nope. German Shepherd. No. Husky. No, not even close. Not even close as a poodle. No. Uh- It's really bad when you hear it. Oh, a beagle. A basset hound. Oh the worst. Poor basset hound

2:26:02 What's in the water there at MSU? Something is very, very wrong. Something is up there! Something is very wrong there... This is sad I love dogs People do not send your children to MSU And just we're on the topic Although you have a lot of Michiganians from MSU that are part of local number one so maybe I shouldn't say anything No, I don't think so Most aren't from Michigan Michigan University This was an article that was going around As scientists, let me just see where these scientists were from. The Icahn School of Medicine in New York! Sounds like a legit outfit... They sequenced the genomes of 16 influenza viruses obtained from pet dogs in southern China and found they contained segments similar to the H1N1 strain responsible for the 2009 swine flu outbreak

2:26:59 They believe that there is, this is oh here it is quote. This is very reminiscent of what happened in swine 10 years before the H1N1 pandemic said the principal investigator In 2009 we were all looking for viruses and birds There was no surveillance and pigs then the pandemic came from pigs And they posit that the next pandemic could come You used to use the word posit? I did again No I use it Oh you use yes Okay, the next pandemic could front couldn't come from dogs. Well that makes sense So when I was going through my archives they found this one of those Many of these I download videos and you can with it right with a tool You can do it from yeah anyway. You're so cyber

2:27:51 And so I've got this, this is beginning. I was wondering whatever happened to Robert, I guess Robert Schaeffer or Bob Schaeffer? There was this clip I got and it's been put together with a bunch of other these Trump pro-Trump clips about how screwed up everybody was with the predictions that Trump would never win But Schaeffer's, and so there is a music bed they put at the end of it which really annoys me. Yeah. But this is still worth listening to. This is 41 second clip. This clip I think has ruined...this will ruin your career when you're supposed to be people out there have to realize that these TV guys here they lose touch with reality after awhile. Explain what happened to Bob Schaeffer?

2:28:38 I don't know, he's just not doing anything. I've never seen him. Didn't he mess up somewhere? No you're thinking of Ross. Oh wrong guy yes okay so we just gone? I think he was just retired and getting old but the thing that is annoying about some of these guys is that they can be SO WRONG when they are NOT SUPPOSED TO BE They're out there, so they're the guys that are supposed to have the pulse and all the rest. But all they do is live in New York. They hang around with each other. They go to Tavern on the Green if you want to see a bunch of celebrity journalists. Go to Tavern on the Green! It's crawling with them

2:29:16 I mean, when I went there it was like the whole staff of 60 Minutes was there. It was just everybody. We're going to Tavern on the Green for lunch! Yeah and they go... There they are all over there and so This one was just an eye roller. couldn't find a single one who now thinks they're going to win. They were saying things like, look we realized a couple of weeks ago that you know that we were not gonna win but now we may lose by historic proportions I mean something that well one person said to me yesterday could affect the Republican Party for generations to come i'm not sure if the Republican party is going to survive

2:30:14 Hey! Just before the election he says I'm not sure the Republican Party can survive. Nailed it! Unbelievable Hey, Melania showed up again in public. Yeah Let me just give you some of the theories that were out there I love a good conspiracy theories are the best my favorite was that Trump had beaten her and She had to wait for the bruising to subside. I'm not kidding now what was a meme? That was a big one on the tweeters There was that there was That she was you know hiding because she you know she's she's a slave

2:30:51 Anyway, she reappeared at FEMA. Now I will add to the conspiracies if you see this video and you and i'm going to play a bit between the gals on CNN. Sorry yes CNN grousing about it Because you know it was like 26 day 27 28 a million. We haven't seen Melania What's wrong with her? You know of course if it were Michelle Obama you and I would have said that no She's having your sex change operation, and we would have said something horrible like that But from but for Melania really didn't have anything other than what reappeared in At the FEMA headquarters And that's the b-roll here she looks like one of those sex robots

2:31:36 And she acts like it. She's, like turning very slowly. Yeah she looks actually a real doll. The new ones yes. Gentlemen this is the first version 2.0. First time we've seen the first lady in 26 days here she is sitting next to her husband the president and Dana if I can just ask you about She, she obviously underwent surgery. She was out of the public eye for a little bit of time. You know I was reading Margaret Sullivan's piece in Washington Post this morning where she made this point where it you know the first lady her staff...I mean it costs taxpayers a lot of money. I think that her communications person referred to the media as rabid at one point in time but it's a new story to know where she's been

2:32:22 Yeah, look this is a tough one. It really is Oh John it's a really tough one you think we can get through the story? It's a really tough one She does by definition You know she she's a she's somebody who has a formal role public an informal public role but that means that she does spend taxpayer money, but she wasn't elected. She doesn't have a-an official elected title so she is not bound by the expectations and the needs, rightly so of people who elect officials and want to know where they are and how their health is because they were put there by the people. She wasn't. What they're trying to do is explain away their nuttiness Having said that she's all...and so she's..there's that part of it and the fact that she is

2:33:15 Who she is. She is somebody who is fascinating to people in this country and around the world People have one there's Melania for want to know everything that they can about her She understands that she plays with that with her with her clothes sending signals Sending signal things that she says with things as she wears so in some ways, you know She understands it in this particular case because it's medical It's it's a it's a tough one. Oh, no she's wearing the blue dress with the seven-inch heels I'll tell you that if I were her I would seriously consider Look if that's not synthetic they should they should make one so she doesn't have to go everywhere

2:34:00 It's really, she doesn't... you've seen it. Doesn't she look synthetic? A little bit. Too much foundation I don't know what this is. And I figured that out because I look at behaviors and she always looks like she's scowling and i know why because when you see her really smile really a big smile She looks old and wrinkled And I know she hates it about herself. That's why she's pushing her lips the whole time and yeah, no, she doesn't smile. She had a pretty smile but maybe my exaggerate wrinkles and a lot of these women have that type People kind of know a few of them. They take a lot of BOTOX into their face so this doesn't happen, what you're describing I mean Nancy Pelosi's all Botoxed up Yeah She has like a very strange looking face because of it and she...I don't know if Melania uses Botox or not Are you kidding me? You think she does for sure Forehead for sure yeah but not in her cheeks or anything but forehead yeah Oh please It's an immovable object

2:35:03 No, no of course he does. Before we get to your clip blitz this was a cool little ditty sent in by one of our dudes named Ben who works for the armed services. This is the Air Force and they have a helpline if I guess you need to call in and get some kind of info about something going on with the tubes there in the interwebs in the DoD And this is relatable to my use of the middle term AFG for Afghanistan. Because if I converse with a lot of military personnel and spies, and handlers...and they're always you know it's like DJT POTUS or POTUS but usually DJT AFG IRQ for Iraq. You know it's all these abbreviations

2:35:55 And I think it was his dad who said, you should send that to Adam and John. He recorded... he called into the helpline and got the menu You know press 1 for this press 2 for that Listen to what these guys do Service this is a non-secure line For field assistance service teams one through six press one For help with ACES, IWIMS, TMIP and NextGen CE press 1. For help with Air Force Neonet press 2. For ARMS, DAS&E, CMOS, LOGMOD, OLVIMS and SMAZ press 3. For ESS, GAFSS, IMDS, CDB, PRPS, MARCS, ILSS, TBA and UNISYS systems press 4

2:36:43 for athlete e Kim's MPS MS ELA SDC stiffness and other PC based systems For MPS, MSELA and SDC press 3. For ETIMS and CISMAS press 4. Holy... I wonder what SNAS is? What is SNAS? Wow! Isn't that amazing?! Yeah they really go with the abbrevies in the military. Like I just need some info on the advanced network analysis language please that's all I need. It's time for the Clip Blitz Let's go, women and student debt.

2:37:23 Women are carrying the biggest share of the country's outstanding student debt loan debt. According to an education advocacy group, women own nearly $900 billion in student loans that's nearly two-thirds of the total. Economists say it will take longer for women than men to repay their loans potentially racking up more interest and falling deeper into debt. Women make up 56% of today's college students. Miss America changes. Oh yes a fan favorite. The miss America organization is dropping the swimsuit competition saying it will no longer judge contestants based on their appearance the competition began 100 years ago in Atlantic City New Jersey as a bathing beauty contest but times have changed the top three leadership roles at the miss America organization are now

2:38:15 held by women and they say viewers are most interested in the talent competition. The changes will begin with this year's broadcast on September 9th." I thought your tweet about that was spot-on, i think it was...I'm paraphrasing It's official here is the proof the terrorists have won? Spot on! This is an untold story Google in San Jose Activists are gathering at Google's annual shareholders meeting to protest plans to build a new campus in San Jose. The group is called Silicon Valley Rising and they say they plan to protest Google's building of a mega-campus that, in their estimation will worsen the homelessness problem and the eviction crisis They're asking Google to commit to a deal that will protect residents from the impacts of tech gentrification should the tech giant come to San Jose.

2:39:13 data center in the ocean. The amounts of our information is held in vast data centers which consume large amounts of electricity well now Microsoft has begun an energy efficient experiment by sinking a small data center in the sea off the coast of Scotland Rory Ketland-Jones reports. Have you ever uploaded a photo, updated your Facebook status or maybe streamed some music? If so, you've probably used a data centre where vast amounts of our personal information are now stored. But what if you could put all that under water? Up in Orkney the tech giant Microsoft is trying to do just that! This white cylinder is packed with computers It was assembled in France and then brought here... ...to be sunk

2:40:01 We're on our way across Scarpa Flow to the deployment site, but I've one nagging question. Why sink a data center? It's easier to cool data centers in water than on land and that means we use a lot less power to cool the data center that we otherwise would. It is kind of a crazy experiment but that's why we do research is to try these things and sort of push us to new places and if this is successful... Military running for Congress is by making peace. Somebody was asking me, Mikey can you still fly a helicopter? I said... Mikey Sherrill is another rookie candidate who doesn't seem to show it the retired Navy helicopter pilot and prosecutor is part of an influx of Democratic veterans running Democrats estimate nearly one-third of their top tier congressional candidates have served in the military

2:40:51 I went to the Naval Academy. Why the sudden surge in veteran candidates? Well, consider the current trust gap in a recent PBS NewsHour NPR Marist poll just 25% of adults had any confidence in Congress 43 percent in the presidency but the military twice that holding the confidence of a sweeping 88 percent of American adults at a local street fair It's another no agenda. So if that's the case, how does that... For one thing I don't know how that works. And the other thing is if they're that good and it's a government operation why is everybody especially the Republicans so dead set against single payer socialized medicine? Which would be insane kind of an operation. Why? It's a baffling phenomenon. I'll do a clip story rundown for you. Bilderberg meeting this week meeting in Italy

2:40:51 I went to the Naval Academy. Why the sudden surge in veteran candidates? Well, consider the current trust gap in a recent PBS NewsHour NPR Marist poll just 25% of adults had any confidence in Congress 43 percent in the presidency but the military twice that holding the confidence of a sweeping 88 percent of American adults at a local street fair It's another no agenda. So if that's the case, how does that... For one thing I don't know how that works. And the other thing is if they're that good and it's a government operation why is everybody especially the Republicans so dead set against single payer socialized medicine? Which would be insane kind of an operation. Why? It's a baffling phenomenon. I'll do a clip story rundown for you. Bilderberg meeting this week meeting in Italy

2:42:09 On the agenda, they are very worried. I'm sorry, I haven't been to the mailbox They're very concerned about the populist uprising in Europe And that's why they're having it in Italy probably and we're going to have to retire a fan favorite jingle here on The Best Podcast In The Universe Very very sad yes sad Looks like the Bayer acquisition of Monsanto will go through although they do have to spin off the glyphosate division. But the name will go away. Monsanto? No! Yeah, I know so let's play it one more time. It is also disappointing because of the old Monsanto House of The Future which used to be at Disneyland in Los Angeles. Yes, the Monsanto House Of The Future that such a scam house of the future they got what they have one in every country and the Netherlands They would always we've opened Adam Would you like you to come down your press event come down and look at the house of the future

2:43:09 Which is always, you know, built by Phillips. Believe me you don't want a house built by Phillips. It's not much you want from Phillips except light bulbs maybe their TV some of the TVs are okay and oh surprise it's a shocker Elon Musk says up we're gonna have to delay the plans for the face first space tourists to circle the moon Oh, you think yeah? Yeah They haven't quite worked it out how we're gonna get through the Van Allen belts. That's what he hasn't quite worked out I know what's going on Elon musk so now he said end of 2019 Yes, sure. So he's got this other thing going too which is apparently the Model 3 which they can't seem to mass produce at all They're gonna have that the more expensive version will make a few of those and $75,000 a pop and they're gonna back kind of push back the roll out of the $33,000 ones Which are the ones that really? That's what it's all about What would you buy one for 75 when you buy an S now I really don't care

2:43:09 Which is always, you know, built by Phillips. Believe me you don't want a house built by Phillips. It's not much you want from Phillips except light bulbs maybe their TV some of the TVs are okay and oh surprise it's a shocker Elon Musk says up we're gonna have to delay the plans for the face first space tourists to circle the moon Oh, you think yeah? Yeah They haven't quite worked it out how we're gonna get through the Van Allen belts. That's what he hasn't quite worked out I know what's going on Elon musk so now he said end of 2019 Yes, sure. So he's got this other thing going too which is apparently the Model 3 which they can't seem to mass produce at all They're gonna have that the more expensive version will make a few of those and $75,000 a pop and they're gonna back kind of push back the roll out of the $33,000 ones Which are the ones that really? That's what it's all about What would you buy one for 75 when you buy an S now I really don't care

2:44:10 I do. Stupid! The area's crawling with them, you must have tons of them down there You know I do and i'm laughing And they got all those damn bird bikes everywhere There are scooters everywhere What a plague Incredible plague These tech guys are ruining the world There is nothing like seeing a millennial on a bird bike scooter With their iPhone trying to look at their iPhone while driving an electric scooter It's a thumbs down moment in traffic. I'll tell you, oh by the way lot of people been trying the thumbs-down trick instead of flipping people off and they're liking it yes early reports are good Yes is very confusing to the recipient of the thumbs down. I was thinking at doing that the other day And then my final clip there is a war you've probably noticed this

2:44:56 at War on Straws. This is the latest salvo in a growing war against plastic straws. And here to tell us more about that is NPR Food Editor Maria Godoy, hey Maria! Hey Mary Louise So why this ban? Why straws? There's something like 270 thousand metric tons of plastic in our oceans and straws are actually a pretty big chunk of that so they're kind of an obvious choice

2:44:10 I do. Stupid! The area's crawling with them, you must have tons of them down there You know I do and i'm laughing And they got all those damn bird bikes everywhere There are scooters everywhere What a plague Incredible plague These tech guys are ruining the world There is nothing like seeing a millennial on a bird bike scooter With their iPhone trying to look at their iPhone while driving an electric scooter It's a thumbs down moment in traffic. I'll tell you, oh by the way lot of people been trying the thumbs-down trick instead of flipping people off and they're liking it yes early reports are good Yes is very confusing to the recipient of the thumbs down. I was thinking at doing that the other day And then my final clip there is a war you've probably noticed this

2:44:56 at War on Straws. This is the latest salvo in a growing war against plastic straws. And here to tell us more about that is NPR Food Editor Maria Godoy, hey Maria! Hey Mary Louise So why this ban? Why straws? There's something like 270 thousand metric tons of plastic in our oceans and straws are actually a pretty big chunk of that so they're kind of an obvious choice

2:45:37 Most of us don't really need straws. We kind of tend to use them because they're there Although I'm thinking I just ate my salad for lunch today with a plastic fork which probably isn't very good for the environment either Why are straws being singled out? For this ban well environmentalists have actually been telling us that plastic straws are taking a big toll four years But there's this video that went viral in 2015 and it's pretty hard to watch it shows a sea turtle with a straw stuck up its nose and researchers trying to remove it. It's pretty heartbreaking, and you know like one of the reasons it's lodged up there is because of the shape of the straw let it go all the way back in its nostril this was just like a really graphic way of bringing home the fact that plastics and plastic straws are taking huge toll on sea life and really on the planet. Oh! So we got a turtle with a straw up his nose who knows what the turtle was doing

2:46:30 Yeah, but now it's taking a toll on the planet. The plastic straws... I don't know how to feel about this! I like straws! Well yeah, but the old paper straws were fine Thank you couldn't we just get the paper st- I mean that wouldn't change if was a paper straw It would still go on the turtle's nose. Maybe the people behind this whole thing are the paper straw makers because they were put out of business! Damn paper straw makers again... Yeah, they came in with this idea and can you imagine? It'd be a marketing meeting What are we gonna do our market share is dropping to these plastic straws I know where's that turtle yeah Yes shove a straw up his nose and then do a phony video And say this is terrible We gotta get rid of these and go back to paper straws I don't mind paper straws

2:47:17 They may not, well I don't know if they do. Do they do well in the water? Or did they just wilt away I guess? They just become like paper and fall apart Alright! No agenda paper straws a new business opportunity We'll work on it right after we choose the artwork for this show Which is smart money for anyone who bought into a paper straw company Just before this happened Oh maybe we can still do it It may not be too late I'l have a look And will report on Sunday That and more life saving tips and media deconstruction to your heart's content on the best podcast in the universe, The No Agenda Show. And I'm coming to you from downtown Austin Texas capital of the drone star state FEMA region 6 on the maps in the 5x9 Cluedio in our common law condo In the morning everybody! I am Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where it is still nice out but not windy. I'd say that weather was good better than your weather

2:48:09 I'm John C. Dvorak. A secret agent Paul Compilage is our end of show makes enjoy that and we'll be back on Sunday remember us at dvorak dot org slash na until then adios mofos I need a cab Here's the story of a bunch of snowflakes who were trampling on some other people's rights All of them lived at home with their mother They wanted to start fights Here's the story of a bunch of fanatics Whose addiction was to outrage all the time They got so whipped up into a frenzy Thought they'd commit some crimes Then though one day they went to attend a rally

2:49:06 And everyone who disagreed was punched. And this group, thankfully got arrested Now we get to laugh at them the snowflake bunch The snowflake bunch The snowflake bunch Now we get to laugh at them the snowflake bunch El Shabbaa, ya da da da da da da da da da El Shabbaa, ya da da da da If you're white, you're a racist. if your male, your are pig. if you're cis, you are privileged Skin is shaving if you big and if you straight, you homophobe

2:49:54 But at the end of the day, they're backing him. You know? They're backing... Come on! At the end of the day. At the end of the day, John? If someone wants to get anyone they can get him... At the end of the day. At the end of the day it's more important that we have entertainment. So at the end of the day who is going to pay for the real loan? It's gonna be taxpayer money! Because at the end of the day thats gonna up to Valerie Jarrett I mean at the end of the day isn't that it?!

2:50:42 At the end of the day, all this money is owed to bankers. At the end of the day, as Americans what we always do is we always say at the end of the day. So at the end of the day it's not actually the health care it's the...at the end of the day you can't deny I had to put less gas in...at the end of the day We're all anti-semites at the end of the day and at the end of the day you get I think it's 4%

2:51:25 Starts to run together at the end of the day you kind of forget right then You know John, you and I are both in the audience business at the end of the day So at the end of the day she could say hey I told you so But I don't see it the other today said once that they get her It's a war on man Oreos are just as addictive as cocaine.