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00:00 Citizens of the globe, the Earth is my home. I live on Earth. Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. It's Thursday, April 5th, 2018. This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 1022. This is no agenda. Celebrating double magic digits around the sun and broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state downtown Austin Tejas in the Cluedio in the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where we miss the Zephyr I'm John C. Dvorak. Oh Wow shorts easy show AZ AZ AZ Well, ladies and gentlemen, he's been around the Sun two times 33 times Happy birthday, my friend Have you received any gifts yet for your birthday? Sorry, have you received any gifts yet? We got one right here. I'm playing it. Oh

01:01 God that's not a gift. That's a curse who gave that to you who gave that to you maybe did Oh, what is she trying to be cute? We're gonna start a new bongo Beat poetry podcast I know that'll pack it in exactly so you're gonna do the bongos Mimi will do the poetry and then Jay will be doing finger snaps Yes Got it well You know we have a... I gotta get the goatee. I gotta grow a goatee. That will look so good on you. You know we have many producers from around the globe of different professions and different skill sets. One of our, I think she was an associate executive producer on the last show, Melissa Talon. You familiar with her?

01:52 No, she was the one that said that after years of being signed to major labels. She's now independent is really how right? Yeah, I remember her yes, so she's she's actually quite talented She's got she's um You know lots of talented people. Yeah, but you know like chick behind the piano type cool talented Okay, one of those and guess what she sent something in for your birthday terrific John There you go!

03:04 Well, she can sing. Uh-huh. And you know what's great? It's like if we had done a morning show on like a radio station or even a weekly after, you know, weekend call-in show, in order to get something like that, It would have been, you know, you gotta write it, you gotta, you know, get approval, you gotta talk to the production guy, we gotta find a singer, gotta find the music. We're gonna get a call from ASCAP? Immediately, yes. We probably will. Think about it. Well, it's a parody. Yeah, uh-huh. Yeah, that doesn't mean that you're absconded. It's a totally legal parody. Yes, but you're not absconded from rights.

03:45 Anyway, thank you very much Melissa Talon from Australia. You made my day. Yeah, very sweet voice. It's great. She should do well as an independent. You should check her out on the YouTubes. Okay. She's pretty good. She's got some good stuff. Almost as good as that chick from Iran. My goodness. Was this a doozy or what? Well, I was a gym and as you know, I got some nasty note from one of our producers saying you're gonna say Apparently something happened to his area. We pooh-poohed it as me local who cares? Oh, and so he says

04:30 I said, but this is local. Who cares? You know, it's kind of mocking me. Yeah. And, uh, it's not really look, the funny thing is, this is not a local story because it involves YouTube and it involves their, they're changing their policies and screwing all these people. They suckered into like hoping to make a living. Yeah. Well, thank you for bringing up the immediate issue that isn't being discussed. Of course we're not talking about gun control or anything like that or how white men are horrible or white men are terrorists. What I saw is exactly what you just mentioned is, wait a minute, YouTube and all the social

05:12 They're all constantly giving you this feedback mechanism. And believe me, this is not about demonetization. The demonetization part, I'm sure she was making pennies. That's not the point. When you get demonetized on the YouTubes, your viewer count goes down. This is what drove her over the edge. It channels being closed viewer count this reward system is addictive and when people can't get their drug They can go over the edge, and I think the the social nets need to be very careful particularly I love saying that particularly with YouTube because people put a lot of effort into that and you know again, I really don't believe that her you know 300,000 views is a groundbreaking moneymaker and

05:57 The way it really operates. But, you know, it was the addiction that was... She was being cut off. It's like cutting off a junkie. No, she looked like one. I have a couple clips. Can I do one first? I have a backgrounder from the New York Times and the reason I want to play it is for some reason it's a Dutch guy doing the voiceover. Oh, so that means you can mock it? Absolutely. But I was surprised. Why would the New York Times have this voice do their video? Oh, you're talking about those crappy videos they put online? Yeah. Representing the paper? Yes, exactly. I don't get it either. They have these

06:43 They're in New York City. They could get a reasonable news reader and I'm sure there's somebody on the staff that can do it but they just bring any old schlub they can and you know they don't want to do it. I mean, everyone's well there's somebody that does want to do it but most of the guys, I don't know, I don't know, I don't have a good voice. Go ahead, you're gonna sound great. I think what happened here, I think this was the editor because Dutch guy, I know a lot of Dutch guys who are good video editors and he's probably illegally at the New York Times. Working on stuff and then they said well, you know, we don't have anybody so I did the voice myself Hey everybody in Holland. I'm on the New York Times the YouTube shooter Nassim Adam was widely known on Iranian social media as Nassim Saabs which means green Nassim

07:29 because of her advocacy for animal rights, healthy living and veganism. Her specific style of videos made her relatively famous among Iran's growing YouTube and Instagram influencers. For instance, one showing a rabbit where she explains the differences between vegetarianism and being vegan. In another video, she explains the benefits of eating a papaya. One of her most well-known videos here is... What do you think of it so far? Do you think I'm really rocking it? I think that maybe this will set a trend and kind of remove the British sounding newsreaders. We're going for this? And replace it with these Dutch guys. I have a career! Finally! I can get gigs. The one where she's wearing a revealing purple dress. Don't believe what you see is a message appearing in the video screen. I'm being discriminated and filtered on YouTube.

08:27 She also criticizes YouTube and makes a physical protest a year ago by going on the streets, posting what claims to be a picture of herself holding up a sign saying YouTube dictatorship. And then there is a video that gives more insight, if you will, in the life of Saddam. She had fled her native Iran decades ago. In that video she explains that even though she was a member of the Baha'i faith, which is a persecuted faith in Iran, she doesn't really like life in the United States. And she literally says,

09:08 In Iran they kill you by axe, but in the United States they kill you with cotton. An Iranian expression for saying that she is dying a slow death in the United States. When it comes to freedom of speech, do you think that Iran is better than USA or USA is better than Iran? She was also repeatedly being teased online for her comments. Many Iranian users in social media would ridicule her, would tell her that she's crazy and in one video she actually explains that she's doing very well and that it's actually the people who are making those comments who are mentally ill. She also criticizes Instagram by saying that her followers are all real. She actually has several Instagram accounts. She also had a Telegram channel before she attacked the YouTube office and subsequently killed herself. One of her last posts there is a childhood photo of herself posing between flowers with one flower stuck in her hair.

10:07 I'm telling you, he also wrote it. He wrote it as well, I can tell. Yeah, he wrote the copy. He wrote it, yes. That's crazy. I thought that was a fun way to get the info. It was a different type of report. Yeah, I think we should just go with this. I hope they do more. We did have a producer at YouTube, Boots on the Ground, if you're interested. Yeah. Let me see you're smacking your lips I am It's the birthday cake it wasn't easy for me to judge since I only got Look at the perpetrator holding the gun before I ran for it. However, they looked very serious They were dressed in black and he says they I asked him said why did you say they was there more than one shooter? He says no. No, that's just how we talk here. I said it's Z. Okay, you do it, right? That's a good way to confuse the country yeah

11:07 They were dressed in black Z were dressed in black and my co-worker who I met up with later said he thought it was a woman with at least part of her face covered the perpetrator was holding the gun medium-sized in both hands the sort of way I believe you're supposed to When I heard the very loud popping I looked up for my food and saw the figure described I was fortunate quote-unquote to be sitting at the table closest to the lobby doors whereas the shooter was more in the center of the patio area and aiming straight in front of her at a downwards angle she could not have been more than 10 to 15 feet from the victims that got shot and The door to our building requires badges to enter which slowed our escape by probably one second but still felt like an eternity. I escaped through the lobby but I think many people may have run out through the side entrance where you don't need a badge to exit.

11:48 That's mostly it for my account. I'd like to know how the shooter got in it wouldn't be too hard for them to tailgate someone through the outside entrance to the patio, but if they're familiar with the layout or lucky they could have just gone through the garage complex to get from the garage complex into the patio. There's a heavy door where for some reason the badges only needed to get into the garage from the patio not vice versa and that turns out to be the way she got in actually so that was a security flaw right there boots on the ground. Well I have a couple of those. I got them. Let's start with the last report. This one came out last night on the locals TV and this is the YouTube last.

12:30 shooter report with a little opinion. As each hour passes there are more revelations about the YouTube shooter. This is her YouTube channel. Nassim Aghdam was extremely bitter with the San Bruno company saying YouTube changed its policy and ultimately paid her less for her content. As you might know, YouTube pays people who have a big online following. Ogdom isn't the only one upset with YouTube's new payment structure. Plenty of people worldwide are accusing the company of unfair business practice. But do they have a valid gripe? NBC Bay Area's Jean Ellie joins us at YouTube headquarters with the latest details. Jean. Raj, lots of people who have YouTube channels say recent changes made by the company are costing them thousands of dollars a month and some have taken legal action. I'm being discriminated and filtered on YouTube.

13:18 Nassim Aghdam was angry with YouTube over new policies that made it harder to make money from her videos. It could be why she walked onto the San Bruno campus and shot three people. like this is through legal means. The creators of Zombie Goes Boom don't condone her actions but understand her anger. Tweeting last night that YouTube's new rules ruined livelihoods and it has blood on its hands. We are Zombie Go Boom. Chuck Muret says Zombie Goes Boom used to bring in ten to fifteen thousand dollars a month but in March of last year YouTube stopped posting ads in front of videos. It's

14:01 decided had questionable content or language. Nouray says revenue plummeted 90% overnight. Our channel is 1.7 million subscribers on YouTube. We have over a quarter of a billion views and we make less than a part-time employee at McDonald's. That's what you YouTube has done two thousands of people. Mireille filed a lawsuit against YouTube's parent company Google claiming fraudulent business practices. The suit was dismissed. As he and other content producers simmer, law enforcement is taking a closer look at Ogdom, searching her parents home in Riverside County and near her apartment in San Diego. What a fool. The guy had another Dutch accent.

14:46 You that one the zombie goes boom guy. Yeah, you didn't sound that Dutch to me Okay, but so they're using that's the angle you're using I mean When this happened I was watching MSNBC as I've promised myself to do for a while. I know, I know. I know it makes me nauseous when you say it. Don't tell me. Okay, I was watching the M and I and the so the report comes on and immediately, almost immediately, they went to well it's a woman, we believe this is domestic dispute, you know can't be any kind of terrorism, can't be just a crazy old white guy.

15:25 No, it's just... Yeah, so let's drop it. Yeah, yeah, so just, just, let's just go along with that like that. Yeah, yeah. Oh, oh gee, oh she was angry at YouTube. Yeah, we had... Mean every one of the reports ends up with this kind of an ending clip play YouTube security. Oh, yeah I got one about that too with an interesting bit tonight YouTube making changes saying we are also revisiting this incident in detail and we'll be increasing the security we have at all of our offices worldwide to make them more secure not only in the near term but long term now I have a more secure clip

16:01 with a little gotcha, see if you can hear it. The Google-owned company pledged to increase security at its offices. It is encouraging workers to take time off or work from home. Tonight, YouTube is stepping up security worldwide after the shooting at its California San Bruno headquarters. The company is releasing new details tonight, saying Naseem Aghdam entered an outdoor courtyard through a parking garage, then opened fire yesterday, wounding three people before killing herself. YouTube says security protections prevented the shooter from making it inside the building, and relatives say Aghdam was angry YouTube started censoring her videos, and they warned police after she disappeared.

16:40 She had a problem with YouTube, so we called that cop again and told him that she might... There's a reason she went all the way from San Diego to there. There was no information relayed to the officer whatsoever that there was any indication of violence. Today police searched the home where Ogdam lived and the gun range he visited just prior to that shooting. Did you hear it? No. Oh, at the end, he's so programmed to think that shooters are men that he says he. Play it again. Why isn't it playing? Here we go. Hey. The Google owned... whatsoever that there was any indication of violence. Today police searched the home where Ogdom lived and the gun range he visited just prior to that shooting. Yeah, he's so programmed to say he.

17:30 She says she no he didn't say he says he I listened to it several times. Well. Let's play it again Oh gosh, and tell me which part you think he says she Google old company price to increase it was there was any indication of violence? Listen today police searched the home where Ogden lived in the gun range. He visited. He's no the gun range he visited I heard she okay, I Then maybe I'm programmed to hear he. How about that? Well, that's possible too. Yeah, it's bad, but it's possible. It's possible that I'm programmed to hear she. Who knows? I'm from the Bay Area. Yeah, oh yeah. I still hear Z. I don't know. Maybe I'm crazy. Well, if you're gonna play that game, I got one for you. Okay. This is another one. This is a story about the gun and this YouTube story about gun.

18:23 Senior investigative reporter Vicky Wynn. Vicky. Well Raj, Naseem Ogdum's father said when YouTube changed its policies about which videos make money his daughter had quote no income. Ogdum was active on Instagram and YouTube. She had more than 50,000 followers on Insta. She posted videos in Farsi, Turkish and English but she grew upset with YouTube as early as 2015 and in 2016 she posted this screenshot claiming YouTube paid her only 10 cents for a video that received more than 300,000 views. Family members say she had no history of mental illness and we learned today from San Bruno PD that Ogden's gun was registered in California which means she presumably had to pass a background check that ruled out any reported mental health or criminal issues. One relative who declined to give her name said she's upset that Ogden was able to obtain that

17:30 She says she no he didn't say he says he I listened to it several times. Well. Let's play it again Oh gosh, and tell me which part you think he says she Google old company price to increase it was there was any indication of violence? Listen today police searched the home where Ogden lived in the gun range. He visited. He's no the gun range he visited I heard she okay, I Then maybe I'm programmed to hear he. How about that? Well, that's possible too. Yeah, it's bad, but it's possible. It's possible that I'm programmed to hear she. Who knows? I'm from the Bay Area. Yeah, oh yeah. I still hear Z. I don't know. Maybe I'm crazy. Well, if you're gonna play that game, I got one for you. Okay. This is another one. This is a story about the gun and this YouTube story about gun.

18:23 Senior investigative reporter Vicky Wynn. Vicky. Well Raj, Naseem Ogdum's father said when YouTube changed its policies about which videos make money his daughter had quote no income. Ogdum was active on Instagram and YouTube. She had more than 50,000 followers on Insta. She posted videos in Farsi, Turkish and English but she grew upset with YouTube as early as 2015 and in 2016 she posted this screenshot claiming YouTube paid her only 10 cents for a video that received more than 300,000 views. Family members say she had no history of mental illness and we learned today from San Bruno PD that Ogden's gun was registered in California which means she presumably had to pass a background check that ruled out any reported mental health or criminal issues. One relative who declined to give her name said she's upset that Ogden was able to obtain that

19:14 9mm handgun she used to shoot and wound three people. You already got it. Oh you spotted it. Oh the insta that she said uses the word this is a reporter She's trying to be cool. She's I'm feel like one of the kids. She's a reporter and she says instant. Yeah, that's what you say the gram No, I think insta is what all the the cool kids say we say yes what they say, but I say the grandma The gram I know you spotted it right away. So I didn't hear did you ding? Did you ding me? Oh

19:51 I clapped. Oh, I'm having problems hearing today more than usual. I have a sinus pressure thing. It's crazy. It's like it's affecting my ears. I might right side of my head hurts. Well, it didn't affect your ears so you didn't spot Insta. Okay. I just thought it was unprofessional personally. Oh, okay. Well, it's alright. Anyway, the last clip I have and you can go on with more security stuff but is the Because the way they do the security thing is, YouTube's been, everyone's bitching about they're not getting enough money. YouTube's making big changes. They're gonna beef up security. It's just to me, I don't know why I think that's funny. We're gonna hand out less money and beef up security. That's the strategy. That's the way to do it. That's if we can pay the guards more. But ABC tried to get some sort of an angle, and with a lot of innuendo, and then they come up with this long shot.

20:46 MSNBC, like you pointed out, decided it wasn't even a story because it wasn't a male right winger. ABC at least try to make it a terrorist story, at least make some innuendo and this is the tube shooter was a pilot. A neighbor saying it appeared Ogden threw away some of the clothes she wore in these videos just days before her rampage. And Matt Gutman joins us live outside YouTube's office in San Bruno. Matt, authorities tonight searching for clues and porn over those videos and telling you they've learned troubling details about the shooter's past? That's right, Tom. Federal law enforcement officials tell me they are still involved in this case because when they delved into her background, they found some red flags. For instance, she got a pilot's license from the FAA just two days after 9-11 and some of her online activism also raised concern. But they are telling us tonight they are nearly certain she was not affiliated with any domestic or foreign terrorist groups. Tom.

19:51 I clapped. Oh, I'm having problems hearing today more than usual. I have a sinus pressure thing. It's crazy. It's like it's affecting my ears. I might right side of my head hurts. Well, it didn't affect your ears so you didn't spot Insta. Okay. I just thought it was unprofessional personally. Oh, okay. Well, it's alright. Anyway, the last clip I have and you can go on with more security stuff but is the Because the way they do the security thing is, YouTube's been, everyone's bitching about they're not getting enough money. YouTube's making big changes. They're gonna beef up security. It's just to me, I don't know why I think that's funny. We're gonna hand out less money and beef up security. That's the strategy. That's the way to do it. That's if we can pay the guards more. But ABC tried to get some sort of an angle, and with a lot of innuendo, and then they come up with this long shot.

20:46 MSNBC, like you pointed out, decided it wasn't even a story because it wasn't a male right winger. ABC at least try to make it a terrorist story, at least make some innuendo and this is the tube shooter was a pilot. A neighbor saying it appeared Ogden threw away some of the clothes she wore in these videos just days before her rampage. And Matt Gutman joins us live outside YouTube's office in San Bruno. Matt, authorities tonight searching for clues and porn over those videos and telling you they've learned troubling details about the shooter's past? That's right, Tom. Federal law enforcement officials tell me they are still involved in this case because when they delved into her background, they found some red flags. For instance, she got a pilot's license from the FAA just two days after 9-11 and some of her online activism also raised concern. But they are telling us tonight they are nearly certain she was not affiliated with any domestic or foreign terrorist groups. Tom.

21:46 So this is the way you go now. So anyone who's got a pilot's license within five days of 9-11 is suspect. Very suspect. Very suspect, I say. I said, what a stretch. Now, have you heard any reports about antidepressants, SSRIs, anything like that? Nothing? Nothing? Of course not. That's never asked. She seems like she might have been a candidate. Oh yeah, she seemed like a lost soul. There was a couple of clips I didn't get but I'll mention them because one was very funny where the sheriff says she apparently didn't have any gun skills. And I'm thinking... What? She went to the range. Yeah, apparently she had no gun skills. That's why she went to the range, seeing if she can shoot at all. She bought the gun.

22:38 And everyone bitched about, oh she shouldn't have been able to buy a gun. Yeah, if you can buy a gun in California, you can buy a gun. So she bought a gun, decided to take it to the range, probably had somebody show her how to shoot her, they wouldn't have remembered her. It's not everybody at the range remembers everybody who shows up. And so she probably took a few shots at the targets and figured, okay, well, at least I can shoot it. And then she shoots a couple people in the legs. And then they said, well, she couldn't, she was in the patio because she couldn't get into building. She could have shot those building doors, I believe are glass from what I could tell. You could shoot the door out, you could shoot the lock off of it. Now she wanted a surprise attack.

23:14 So she's shooting people on the patio and then shoots three bullets, and this is all I have no good at this I have no gun skills and blows her head off. So maybe she was actually maybe that was an accident The blowing her head off part. Yeah, maybe she has such few gun skills that she shot herself in the head. I don't know I hate to make fun of the dad I don't or or of the trauma that people live through it sucks, but I I also have to point out that I know from my own personal history in the Netherlands and I've seen this in many I'm opening myself up here, but in the community of animal activists there is a lot of violence and Sometimes these can be very violent people. I think the act of you know throwing cakes and pies at somebody and throwing paint on people all of that is unacceptable and

24:15 You know, this doesn't surprise me that she was such a radical animal activist, to put it that way. No, it doesn't surprise me either. I think it's all part of the same. The same... I don't know what to call it. Oh, apparently she didn't blow her head off. She shot herself in the chest. Ah, then I'm right! It's like, which way do I point? Horrible! I'm not hitting anything with this. Maybe I'm holding it wrong. Yeah. You know, I think someone sent me a link to this. How do you shoot yourself in the chest? You gotta turn the gun around. Oh, brother. Yeah.

24:53 Someone sent me a link to this and I'd kind of forgotten about it. You know, Michael Moore is such a nut. Where is he by the way with with this handgun incident in California? But when he did the movie Bowling for Columbine, which I think is really how he rose to fame, right? Wasn't that his his main his big big hit his big mainstream documentary hit I think the big one was the General Motors one But that was that before that or after that it was before his original okay, so all right no so yeah of course So he had already been huge by then Roger and me But he came to some very interesting conclusions about Columbine and I think it would be interesting in light of this shooter who we don't know much about just to listen to what he came up with.

25:40 We never really came up with the answer in terms of why this happened. I think we did a good job of exposing all the reasons that were given were a bunch of BS. You know, Marilyn Manson caused them to do it. This, this or that caused them to do it. And none of it really made any sense. That's why I believe there should be an investigation in terms of what pharmaceuticals, prescribed pharmaceuticals, these kids were on. And perhaps parents, it would have a shocking, it just would be shocking I think to the millions of parents who prescribed this for their kids if it was finally explained to them, if this is the case, that

26:21 This perhaps occurred for no other reason other than because of these prescriptions. Imagine what that would do. Imagine how people would totally rethink things, grasping for every little straw they can to explain why something like Columbine happens when in fact it may be nothing more than this. How else do you explain two otherwise decent kids, very smart, no history of violence to other kids in the school? Why them? Why did this happen? It's an extremely legitimate question to pose and it demands an investigation. Where's that Michael Moore? What happened to him? I like that one. Well, you know he does make a point and none of these school shootings ever occurred before the TV advertising of these drugs. There's a strong correlation in fact in the timeline. Yes, and I don't think it's a coincidence.

27:14 And he noticed it early on, that's very early on. It's continuing, nobody seems to want to talk about it for the reason that we've expressed on this show, which is why we ask people to help us do this show by contributing directly so we don't have to run ads from these companies that are really supporting the networks, these drug companies. The networks would, half of them would really be rethinking everything they do if they lost all that advertising revenue. In fact, drug companies that produce some of these really dubious drugs. Here's a short follow-up clip from Michael Moore. Eli Lilly Corporation, pharmaceutical company, for nearly 15 years covered up their own internal investigation that showed that anyone on Prozac

28:04 is 12 times more likely to attempt suicide than those using other antidepressants. Not 12 times more than the average population, 12 times more than those already on other antidepressants. This is a criminal act and I want to know why these criminals are still walking the streets. Yeah, that guy. Where's that guy? You know, he could do a good documentary on that, but no one would ever run it. Yeah, you get killed. Unfortunately. Or they just would say, you run this documentary, you're not going to get any more dollars from us. We'll just give it all to CBS. Yeah, the worst. Hit the guy where it hurts in his pocketbook. Yeah, true.

28:56 Let me see. I don't know, can we, I guess maybe we can move this a little bit to, because we just don't have anything. We don't know anything other than... No, I think it's covered. I think it's been covered. She's done and that's the way it goes. And this new cycle continues next week. This won't even be a story. But I think we might see more of this type of violence against the social nets when you get demonetized, delisted, banned, blocked. This may be the start of a violent backlash. And I have for later on the show I have I Listened to that Ezra Klein interview with Zuckerberg. Did you hear that? You haven't heard it good. I have heard it Oh, yeah, the whole thing. No, no, okay. I pulled a couple clips. He'll be able to listen to that But we did have let me see two other clips

29:51 Oh, yeah You might have seen this it wasn't till I saw I wasn't even gonna clip this one until I saw it run on TV And I thought it was funny just even the audio. This is Nicole Wallace on MSNBC And so they have the box she's got a guest in the studio and a box to her right or to her left for the viewer with you know the helicopter video or a sky shot of the YouTube headquarters and and someone opens up a Pepsi can in the studio. From Google and YouTube as it becomes available. Steve Schmidt, I always go back to the horror of 9-11 and the complete reliance. You know, we are in our tribes, we're in our corners most of our lives. I think we just heard some gunshots. Should we listen to that for a second? Control room?

30:40 Not gunshots? Okay. They'll tell us if there's something. I think we just heard some gunshots. Can you confirm that, Control Room? Oh my God. From here it sounded like somebody opening up a Pepsi can and micing it. Yeah, I think they had gunshots. Her reaction is priceless though. I think we're hearing gunshots. Control Room, can you confirm, is that gunshots? These people are the worst. Here is David Hogg. He's getting kind of high on the hog actually he I guess Bill O'Reilly wrote something or went somewhere and you know if as if he's still relevant and Accused this kid of taking money from Soros From shadowy figures shadowy figures in the background. Here's his priceless response I mean, I'm pretty well lit. I don't see any shallowy figures behind me a

31:39 I mean, honestly, if he sees powerful shadowy groups as corporate America standing with us, okay. I guess it doesn't really make sense. But what I want to get on from is the negativity in this situation and I want to focus on what's ahead for our movement. It's really what we need to be focusing on is the positivity and really bringing everybody together. And that's the first thing that we have coming up are the town halls on April 7th that we're trying to get in every congressional district. I think when Bill says these things... I love how he's just, Bill, you know, like my colleague over there, former Fox News colleague Bill. Bill and Laura and Don. And I think when Bill says these things, and when Laura says these things, I'm fine when they disagree with my policies, that's absolutely okay. What I have a problem with is when they attack me or anybody else personally. Why? What does that accomplish? It doesn't make any sense.

32:30 I don't have any shadowy figures behind me, at least I don't see any. I'm pretty well lit and I'm just a kid that uses Twitter and if he sees me as powerful, that's okay. I don't see myself that way. But honestly, we're trying to use our First Amendment rights and serve as corporate America and if he stands against that, that's fine, but they're standing with us and we're gonna stand with them too. This guy babbles too much. He just wants corporate America to stand by him, which is great. I think you should do a ISO of I'm pretty well lit. I'm pretty well lit. It's like, oh man, I'm really high with that guy sitting there. I'm pretty well lit. Yeah, I should do that. Pretty well lit. I should do that. Oh, I forgot that Chris Wilson sent in a little preview of his end of show mix for this whole YouTube thing. Don't tell me why I don't like YouTube. Don't tell me why I don't like YouTube.

33:19 So sick. You can look forward to the full song at the end of the show. I have a little side thing to do here. First is the Tesla April Fool's gag which we should at least do a little follow-up on and then I have my clip that I wanted I finally found I've got that one. Yes, I see it. Well they may have gotten some laughs but Tesla took a big hit because of an April Fool's joke. Here it is.

33:57 Elon Musk posted this to Twitter yesterday saying that the company was going bankrupt. While a lot of people were looking out for jokes, the timing of this tweet may have put Tesla shares into a deep slide. As we mentioned earlier in the newscast, the NTSB is investigating a deadly crash involving a Tesla that was in autopilot mode. Tesla shares fell about 8% this morning to their lowest level in nearly a year. You know that was the dumbest thing I've ever seen anyone do and he never said April fools Yeah, so he violated this whole game interesting you say that because I was waiting for him to say April fools on that and April fools on the the flamethrower and You actually not a lot of people know this but you were pretty famous back in the day for your April fools guess I had done I've done quite a few good ones and

34:45 I got in the Hoax Hall of Fame with one of them. Oh, which one was that? I believe that was the one where I said that Patrick Leahy, who it got wind of this and he got irked about it by the way, Patrick Leahy was working on a bill to make being intoxicated while on the internet a felony because these guys and then the way I played it was that these guys are so stupid that because it was dubbed the information highway they felt it was like drunk driving and they didn't know the difference between one and the other and so I played it from that perspective which is the way you do it April Fools' Gag. Take something real and then twist it into something ridiculous. And then people say oh these guys are so stupid

35:31 And of course the whole thing was bullshit. And that was one of them. I also had one that which got on the front page of the Sioux City newspaper. Sioux City, Sioux City, Sioux City. This is where Gateway was. Gateway computers. And it got above the fold right at the top. I think it was, it was a Sioux City or Sioux Falls. You're all jacked up about above the fold, below the... Oh, it was above the... Below the lead. Above the headlines. Oh, woo! You print maven, you. It was in olden days, this was before the internet. You're still excited about it? Well, I got a kick out of it. All right. Because above the whole thing... How did you launch it? You had no email. How did you launch it? You had no webs. These all went into magazines. Oh, print. Yeah, nice.

36:19 Geez. Anyway, you want to hear the story? You asked for the story. I asked for one, but you're going to give me the second one. I think it was at Sioux City or Sioux Falls that the chat room should know. Anyways, it's a big town in Dakotas. I made the assertion, it was just I wrote it up as a news item, is that Ted wait and the boys at the gateway can two thousand computer company is in the nineties. Word were buying the town name and they're gonna change the name of Sioux falls or Sioux city which of the two to gateway city.

36:57 And it was by play this straight. I think I remember this yeah, yeah They're gonna be Gateway City, and they got everybody got bent out of shape, so they wrote this article. They read in the paper Oh my god, and you'd how you do the April Fool's you put that in the magazine as well the way It's done the way the way I would always do it is I'd have about five hints in there that this was a gag I Would put the date I'd you I always have their spokesperson was always a lurp a sloof and Which is April Fool's spelled backwards. I mean if you can't get that at that point, you're an idiot. Yeah, and there's a lot of hints There was actually there was a pretty good one this year which didn't get enough play I felt Lexus and 23andMe did you see that?

37:42 No, I didn't. They did a commercial, very professional commercial. It was completely produced and it was extremely believable. And the idea was, and I clipped it but it doesn't work without video. And it's really well done. It looks like a Lexus commercial because it is. And the idea is you give your DNA to Lexus and they customize. Oh yes, I saw this commercial. And then at the end there's a couple of giveaways. There's a couple of giveaways. One is she's spitting into the test tube right there in the commercial which is not at all flattering. I'm like, no, that was like, hold on a second, what's going on here?

38:19 And then at the very end, and I'm like, oh my god, this is crazy. Are they insane? What's happening? The very end to start the car, she licks the steering wheel and it recognizes her DNA and starts and drives off. It was well done. That's funny. It was very good. I didn't see the whole thing. But Elon Musk should be arrested. I thought so. I thought that you did sunk the stock if you were trading it, you may have lost money. This was the stupidest thing I've ever seen anyone do. You can't do this legally. Honestly, I sunk the stock. I mean, I told you get 250. Well, you said that but I found... I found the old rave clip you raving and raving about the machine in 2017 this is what I criticized you for and so I have a clip I finally found it. Taken out of context just a small part. No, no this is every this is your words

39:10 In the order you said them and it's also, I tightened up a little few because there's a lot of the ums and ahs. I cut it down a little bit but because I didn't want to go on forever. I got one minute and 41 seconds. This pretty much summarizes your feelings. I-35 can get pretty gnarly. Let me tell you something, John. This car blew my mind with autopilot. I did not drive to New Braunfels. The car drove itself. Oh, that's nice. I mean, and from stop and go traffic, we were on the web browser, we're connecting phones, and the car is just driving by. In fact, at a certain point, we have to get off I-35, and I'm thinking, I wonder if it'll actually just do that too.

39:50 That's how comfortable is felt lane changes click. I never drove one with a feature. Oh my god. No, I'm very familiar with Adaptive cruise control and with you know with systems that keep you in your lane that'll kind of bop you back into the lane but this was an absolute mind-boggling experience any car I have in the future I want this technology in it Tina loves it. She loves the minimalism of it. She think is fantastic I But also just the feeling that we're tootling along and say, hey, let's just see how the pickup is when we're doing 70. I floor the thing. It's unbelievable. There's no doubt about it. This is an unbelievable beast of a machine.

40:32 So, again, on the way back, I just love the technology of the car. I think the sound system was okay. There's a lot of extras. I don't know if he has the super sound system and this suspension and all that. But again, the car is driving itself. I am absolutely loving this experience. and made me feel great about saving the world from climate change. Absolutely outstanding. You know, I almost bought one. This car is suitable for every imaginary scenario except for picking up chicks at the Whataburger. Absolutely outstanding. You dick! First of all, I gave John the link from noagendaplayer.com

41:17 And I listened to the whole thing. You just cut that up, you butchered it, you're a horrible man. How long did you spend on that? Two days? I have time limits. That was good. That was good. I'll tell you, I will brag about one clip, one thing I did. You and I think because you're like a very good editor and I think I can hold my own But there was a couple more things I really had to spend a lot of time getting just a little you one bit of information out But on the one I was trying to fix it nice It was this car you said and you should play actually play this against how good I did this because it was it was a luck shot You said this car is unsuitable

42:02 And you cut out the un. And I took the un out. You did a good job. That was very... I'm like, wait a minute. I know exactly what's in that clip. I just heard it. This is... Okay, you got me. What I was gonna say is, yes, that's the day I bought and I sold April 1st. Oh man. Okay, good one. You got me. All right, what else we got here? Yeah, let me see if we got, did I have anything else on? Oh yeah, well there is, this was interesting. Someone asked me if this is constitutional. I believe it is, but it's just something that we should maybe discuss briefly. The vote came in about, this is Deerfield, Illinois, an hour ago and it was unanimous, the village opting for a ban on specific

42:50 types of firearms. And essentially what that means is a complete ban on semi-automatic rifles, pistols and shotguns containing certain features and magazines containing more than 10 rounds of ammunition. Law enforcement and retired law enforcement are exempt by the adjustments to local law. The debate before the vote at times heated and passionate. There's going to be lots of talk about Second Amendment rights, but I'd be hard pressed to find any right that is completely unrestricted. We have police. Yeah, they had them in Florida too. Imagine all those teachers and those kids folks that look out that window at that cop hiding behind that tree. I bet they wish they had a gun versus a phone in their hand.

43:37 The law is very similar to the one that is currently in place in Highland Park. The ban goes into effect June 13th and after that those with the noted firearms could be fined up to a thousand dollars per day that they possess those noted firearms. We are live in Deerfield, Jeremy Ross, CBS2 News. So the question is, is that constitutional? I believe it is. What? That they can ban a certain type, they can ban a gun in their city or municipality. Well, they did a, they do that in Washington DC and I think it's been upheld. I can see why that, that's a community decision. Yeah, yeah. It's just the federal government is not allowed. The second amendment is about the federal government. Yeah, it's not about the local government. So, yeah. Yeah, why don't they just do that? Do it town by town we'll go, shutting them down.

44:33 Just in time, our favorite resource on the internet for definitions, Merriam-Webster, has changed the definition of assault rifle. Huh? Yes. Here we go. Assault rifle. any of various intermediate range magazine fed military rifles such as the AK-47 that can be set for automatic or semi-automatic fire. Also, a rifle that resembles a military assault rifle but is designed to allow only semi-automatic fire." So they added the also. It resembles. What kind of definition is that, resembles? I'm just amazed if it looks nasty. I know what it means, but

45:25 You know resembles a millet so that could just be colors. Yeah, well with the camo Yeah, okay exactly the camo. Yeah, very strange And then just some confirmation even though we already had figured this one out pretty quickly the March for our lives March these kids were all getting ready to organize in April which would have been about now and They were gonna do this big walk out of school and then all of a sudden. Oh, it's it's in March It's called the March for our lives here we go DC police confirmed that the March for our lives people

46:09 booked and got their permits months in advance. Yeah, well they still put the kibosh on it, didn't they? They wouldn't let them march. Well, no, I think they didn't have permission for a rally. But the point is this whole thing was set up months in advance for this, for a march. I don't know, it's unclear to me if it was called March for our Lives, but the permits were given out way before the shooting took place. Oh, yeah. So that's that's the timeline that's interesting in this case. Scam, scam. Well, yeah, it's a scam. Absolutely. Maybe the guys who put the guys who got the permits were the ones behind the shooting so they could get more people to come to the march. Get off my beat. Even I wouldn't suggest that. Even I wouldn't suggest it. Did you see Spotify go public?

47:08 Yes, I did. 165. It went up to 165. This stock is worthless. This isn't one of those 50 cent stocks. You know what's interesting? And actually, I'd like to correct the DH Unplugged sister podcast. Because I think you guys know it, but it really came out wrong. There were no shares issued at this IPO. There was no money raised. This was just an exit. No, it's just going public. Yeah, this was just an exit. If they weren't public, I think it was by June, then they'd have to cut millions more shares to everybody and there's all these penalties and everything. So they're like, ah, screw it. It's like a reverse merger. Yeah, I don't know about 50 cents.

47:54 It's never made a nickel. No, of course not. But just by the typical standards, I think $50. There was no shares to short at all. No, we did it on our game though because... CNBC actually called me to do an appearance about the Spotify IPO. Oh, you should have. No! No, what am I gonna say? You know exactly, you get all ready, you go to a studio. Wait, wait, let me guess. Hold on. So Mr. Curry... Yes, yes, yes. Now let me, I'm gonna just do the whole thing. Okay, remember... So Mr. Curry, what do you... Let me tell you. First of all, I'll preface by saying the angle is MTV, music, technology. Sure. Okay. Yeah. All right.

48:38 I'll tell you what, you be the MSNBC or CNBC guy, I'll be you, I'll be Curry. This is what I expect us to hear. Right now we have another person who is very interested in this, very interesting to talk to when it comes to this Spotify IPO. We heard from Gene Simmons, a legendary frontman from Kiss earlier. And this guy has been around for lots of revolutionary technologies when it comes to music. Please say hello to former MTV VJ and currently host of a podcast, Adam Curry. Thanks, good to be on. So Adam, what is your feeling about Spotify in general? Do you think that it's the cultural shift that will save the music business?

49:24 Well, I think what we should be talking about is Michael Jackson being murdered. And back to Gene Simmons. I'm an idiot. You're so right. I should have done that. I should have done that. Ah, stupid. It's actually one of our producers is a booker. He's the one that he said, I'm a big fan of the show, the podcast. And he's sincere, I could tell. So I said we have a listener who's one of the producers at NBC Booker a booker, but here's the real travesty. This is the story that's unreported All the music business executives all these come that everyone had shares and

50:17 The people who didn't have shares were the artists. They had no shares. But all of their... Screw them! All of their... all the A&R managers, all these guys, like, hey, you know, get it on Spotify. Come on, you should, yeah, do that. And, you know, you should make your own Spotify list with all the cool songs, you know, the stuff that you really like. It doesn't really matter. It doesn't have to be on our label. Just anything, you know, just... and then promote it. Promote it on your Twitter. And so these guys, they rape the artist twice by not giving him, cutting him in on any deal or any shares or anything and then by actively helping them promote and create you know the fictitious value that they then monetize. They cashed in on the again on the back of the artist and are the artists stupid?

51:04 Are they stupid? Do you not see this? They're artists. Oh my goodness. How about their managers? It's all, you know what it is? It's collusion. Yeah, the managers were in on the IPO. Oh, it's just so sad. Fools, I tell you. Fools. It's the same with YouTube and all this money. Internet money. Go look at the South Park Internet Money episode. that will explain it perfectly. Internet money, yeah. Yeah. We got a couple of things happened. The Mexican, well, let's, they made a big fuss over this. Stop the caravan? No, yeah, well, spot the caravan was part of it, but I think which is why Trump put the National Guard at the border and of course all the, you know, your boys at MSNBC, it was all... Hold on, hold on, I'm just gonna assert one thing. I'm going to assert

52:07 that this story was launched on purpose by Trump to get the National Guard on the border. This thing was set up from the beginning. It could be, but the real point that I always thought was that they're making a big fuss about this and in fact Bush put the National Guard on the border. Obama? Obama put the national... so what? So he's doing it too. Wait, hold on. Obama not only put 1,200 troops National Guard on the border in Yuma on the border, but he also charged the American public a half a billion dollars for it. He raised 500 million for this operation. So anyone saying anything is full of crap. Well what they tried to do at ABC was bring it, conflate it.

52:56 With to make it sound as though he's doing this thing because Mueller is out to get it. Oh, he's just trash and trash They put the two stories together here listen to way listen to the way they do it on ABC This is ABC. This is the beginning ABC border announcement lie. Yeah, because you could also say, it comes, you know, this is all a plot by YouTube to distract from people killing them. It's really, I don't know what even what to say, but it's just ABC trying to, I mean, it's two separate stories, it's got nothing, one's got nothing to do with the other. You know what, I gotta give you a borderline, that was at least that good. That was at least a borderline, that was worth a borderline.

54:03 So here is the second part where they bring in our guy, you know, the news, the correspondent, White House correspondent. And this is Mexican border announcement in lie two. A day after the president surprised his own top advisors by floating the idea of using the military to secure the border with Mexico. We're going to be going our border with the military. The White House made it official announcing he is signing the order and the National Guard could be on its way as early as tonight. We do hope that the deployment begins immediately. The Homeland Security Secretary could not say how many troops or how much it would cost. As for what they'll do, US troops cannot do law enforcement functions such as arresting illegal border crossers. This would be a support role such as helping with surveillance. It

54:48 It will be strong. It will be as many as is needed to fill the gaps that we have today, is what I can tell you. So we'll go through and make sure. Just last week, the president also suggested he would use military funds to build his border wall. Does the president have the authority to use money that Congress has appropriated to the Department of Defense to build the border wall? What he meant was there are some lands that the Department of Defense owns right on the border that are actually areas where we see illicit activity. We're looking into options for the military to build wall on military installations on the border. But Pentagon officials tell ABC News the U.S. military has no land on the Mexican border. The closest is the Air Force's Goldwater practice range in Arizona, which is not actually on the border.

55:36 Meanwhile, regarding the special counsel investigation, ABC News has confirmed President Trump has been informed by Robert Mueller's team that he is not, at this point, a criminal target of the investigation. But he is a subject of the investigation and therefore, Mueller wants to interview him. Wow! It's a the hits just keep on coming with these guys. Now the worst part about this particular one and I have this I have to do I'm sorry. Yeah, I have the two ISOs put back to back is that? Yamas Tom Yamas who's doing is sitting in for David Muir

56:13 He indicates one thing in his opening, which is that Trump is under investigation. And then this guy, the White House correspondent, says he's not under investigation, he's just kind of a person of interest. He's just a person involved in the whole story, I think is what that means. And so this is like misleading now I have the two of them back to back now you listen to the intro which to me is always when the anchor comes out that that's the headline so this is a misleading headline by ABC and then it's corrected. in the main part of the story, but I think by then it's already ingrained in your brain that they're out to get Trump and he's under investigation.

57:10 criminal target of the investigation. But he is a subject of the investigation and therefore Mueller wants to interview him. A subject, yes. Oh please. I thought this was incredibly misleading. And you're surprised? I thought this was just the lowest of the... This is really reaching down there. ABC trying to compete I guess with NBC who's really gone off to deep end on this stuff. Well, it must be ratings. It's got to be good somehow, somewhere. I think you just got to pepper every story with salt. I don't think it's good for ratings at all. I don't see that the ratings are doing that well. ABC is the number one of the group, supposedly. But I don't know that their ratings are improving by them being liars. We barely have any news in this country. In our country. We barely have any news. I agree. It's just all Trump, Trump, Trump, Mueller, blah, blah, blah.

58:04 But what did you think of our DHS secretary, Christian Nielsen? I'm liking her. This woman, she has skills, she's very pretty. She is pretty. And she handles adversarial questions so expertly. This could be... She's a pro. This could be a president. She has president written all over her. Listen to the... So the guy asked some asshole question like, did the president get that idea from watching, you know, the morning show Fox and Friends? With some bullshit like that. Listen to how she does this.

58:45 I mean, it's the 140th day of the Trump administration. You talk about the urgency, you talk about it being April. But there's been a lot of speculation in the country that this might have something to do with something the president saw on television on Sunday morning. Or it might have something to do with the fact that the president wants to shore up support amongst his political base. Can you speak to that speculation? Is it true? I think what is true is the president is frustrated. He has been very clear that he wants to secure our border. He's been very clear that he wants to do that in a bipartisan way with Congress. I think what you're seeing is the president taking his job very seriously in terms of securing our border and doing everything we can without Congress to do just that.

59:24 But I do hope as soon as Congress comes back that I can work with them. How long have you been working on this plan? For how long have you personally been working? You know, it's always on the table. It's been done before, as you know. As you know, it's been done before. It's nothing new. It's one of many things that we have looked at. We're in continuing conversations with the governors. This is a partnership, as you know. So it's not new. We're just walking through all of the things that we can do. I listed some of the ones that we have done. We can provide you others. She needs a little bit of help on the vocal fry and she has a... she elongates some stuff without frying which is also not so attractive.

1:00:01 But I think once she gets rid of that, she's good at very soft, soft, what I call a soft peddled insult. Yes. The soft peddled insult is the use of as you know, as you know, yes. Because when you say as you know, it's really saying you already know this. I don't know why you're asking me this stupid question. Very subtle. Well done. A microaggression for sure. It's a microaggression. That's exactly what it is. As you know. As you know, it's a microaggression. She's good at it. I'm a fan. Let's see how she does. She looks good at it. She doesn't seem to get rattled. I think the Newark girl seems to be... Although I think she's been promoted, so we're not going to see her so much. He's got a lot, a bevy of women that do the front work. The misogynist that he is.

1:00:57 The problem is they're all pretty. Including, well, I guess not all. But it's beside the point because they all are effective and it's, you know, I think that he's doing a very good job of surrounding himself with women who are effective at delivering the message without Being like Obama had guys like Kirby and these other dicks Josh Josh earnest earnest and there's another one besides Kirby that other get Tanner Yeah, the first guy was Carney

1:01:35 No, no, I'm talking about the guy for the Defense Department with Kirby. Yeah, Kirby was toner toner or Tanner I can't remember yes, but he was a clone and Kirby was an ex-admiral so he had the classic arrogance of a Navy officer And he just exuded it. He was terrible. Yeah, yeah, no offense to all your Navy officers, but you know what I'm talking Yeah, they know they understand and then just just before we take our break. Did you see Jesus Christ Superstar live? Oh Not I did on Broadway years ago. No. No it was on TV. It was the big Easter Sunday television extravaganza Oh, this was really good. I'm surprised you didn't I had it was a blowout and nine and a half million viewers with that Alice Cooper is King Herod

1:02:25 Yeah, and basically he wasn't acting he just was I didn't even know it was on I Somehow that's too bad. Oh, it was I would have probably watched it John Legend was Jesus weird black baby Jesus Yeah, it was it was really quite I said I was What I didn't realize is that I grew up with this with the double album which came before the play It was just an album some freaks put together back in the hippie days my parents had that I have one of those big wooden Yeah, furniture cabinets in the living room and you open up the top and there was the turntable and you put the put it you know you had to maybe even came up on some kind of fake hydraulics and then the speakers were in the cabinet and I'd listen to that and I knew all the words still it was very very odd I had no idea that that that people would still even give a crap about that. Hmm. Yes for sure you didn't.

1:03:20 Apparently it didn't. And with that I'd like to thank you for your courage to say in the morning to you John C. You are the JC Superstars what it stands for Dvorak. In the morning to you Mr. Adam Curry. In the morning to all ships at sea and boots on the ground also the subs in the water the feet in the air and the dames and the knights out there. Yes in the morning to our troll room. Hello trolls. NoagendaStream.com is where everybody congregates for the live stream and chat on Sundays and Thursdays. And I'd also like to say a big hey-o in the morning to Comic Strip Blogger. He brought us the artwork for episode 1021, Sun Burps. I love it. This was, we thought it was very funny. This was the pager with no agenda on it for my new OTG status. Off the grid. Yep, that's me. I am OTG. I thought that was an April Fool's joke. No, sir. See, now I was told by Comic Strip Blogger

1:04:19 That I was made a fool of. And everybody in the chat room agreed that was an April Fool's gag that you were doing. Really? Really? Yes. Huh. Yeah. No. No. You have no intention of doing any of this stuff. You were just making an idiot out of me by going on and on about it. No, I would have done something creative like edited an old review to make me sound like a dick. I just tightened it up. Yeah. Yeah, I do have an OTG update later. This has hit a nerve. I want to talk to you about it. Oh God. You sound so excited. The man who gets excited about being above the fold in Sioux City can't stand an OTG report. We need a jingle. If I had a jingle, I'd feel better about it. Okay. I'm sure this will happen.

1:05:12 Well, we do have two. We only have two, curiously. We had my birthday, but my birthday drew all the attention, whatever little it is. And so we didn't get very many executive and associate executive producers. In fact, we got one of each. Okay. So we got Stephen Fettig, who will be the executive producer, Sir Stephen. He says, John, this is in honor of your birthday and the Sixth Amendment. So he gave $660.66. What is the Sixth Amendment? I don't know. I didn't look it up. I think it has something to do with what he just says, which is, I love my right to a speedy and public trial by an impartial jury and confronted with the witnesses against me. I think it has to do with that. You can look it up. And I love John for his ever-continuing witticisms and petulant insight. Petulant, nice. Petulant, and not just insight. Petulant is a racist term, by the way.

1:06:15 It could be. Remember? And then, and then the... When Romney said Obama was petulant? He did? Yeah. Oh yeah, I do remember that. Romney said Obama is petulant, and then that was seen as racist because petulant assumes child, assumes boy, assumes racism. Yeah. It was great. I remember that. Those were the days. Duchess of Japan, Astrid Klein. Yes. How's she doing? I don't know, but she gave $222.22. She's in Tokyo, of course. Dear John, happy birthday. From every level in life, the view is another one, but the higher you get, the better the view. Best wishes, you said when you have cataracts. Best wishes always, Dame Astrid.

1:07:03 And the Duchess of Japan and the disputed islands in the Japan Sea. That's right. Good to hear from her. I follow Sir Mark on the face bag. So they're doing all kinds. They're opening up what seems like a building a month. Yeah. They're also got a bunch of intellectual wars and they got awards and you know, there's stuff and then still they have time. They still have time to listen to the mall cops. Do they really just gets a newsletter? Uh, Dan, send a guy check. No Dame Astrid listens religiously I'm I am sure of and sir Mark has to because he travels so much he's on planes all the time. Well if you're traveling a lot yeah it's a good excuse you might as well just listen. All right well that's it that's our two well-wishers. In fact if you take all of Dame Astrid's time

1:07:53 That she spends listening to the show. She could probably, that's probably one building a year. One building. One building a year they don't open. That's it. Yeah, that's it. Okay, well I look forward to all the other birthday congratulations coming up. It's a very special day and we're very happy. You know, we take birthdays very seriously in the Netherlands, John. We decorate the chair and the room. Oh, is this where everyone sits around in a circle and just stares at each other? Yes, and drinks coffee and has little pieces of cake and then we have the same conversation that we had at the last birthday where we sat in a circle. That's how it goes, yes. And it's a lot of fun. I know people have described... you're not the only Dutch person I know and they describe the scene as the worst... I'm not Dutch. Well, you're right, you're not Dutch. But you're faux Dutch.

1:08:41 But they all describe the scene and it just sounds like the worst thing imaginable. But then there's an upside to the Dutch because every Dutch household has a calendar hanging in the bathroom, in the guest bathroom. And it has a little string and a little pencil or a pen and the idea is when you're sitting there doing your business you write down on the calendar, you know, your name on the date. So when you're sitting there, you also have something to do like oh, oh, John's birthday on here exactly and you can see whose birthday is coming up Ah, it's this is this is how the this is Dutch face bag basically when you pull on the string is also flush We want to thank our executive producer and associate executive producer They know that these credits are real and I'm sure they've used them many times Certainly on their building pitches day master will probably put sneak that in there somewhere. I know I know I know her We'll be thanking more people more birthday wishes coming up later on and remember we have another show coming up on Sunday vorac.org

1:09:42 So you have plenty of time in the meantime to be out there propagating our formula. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Shut up! So is it common in Holland to take a poop in somebody else's bathroom just whenever you show up? Right on the calendar? I think this is probably more women do this than men just naturally speaking depends on the placement you know sometimes the calendar can be right it depends on how tall you are you know if you can see it or not or if for guys who would make more sense it was on the back wall of the of the bathroom you know then you could like use you know you got one hand free or some of us do I don't I'm so happy I made that joke

1:10:47 Let me see. Yeah, you just OTG for a second. Okay, I'm ready. A lot of response to my idea of getting a pager which should have been delivered yesterday. Sadly was delayed. So it's coming in today. So I can receive the pager. Yeah, the two-way pager so I can send and receive SMS text and email. And a lot of people were like, please document this. I want to do the same thing. Oh, I smell a giblet. The giblet is, I think for sure. Also, I learned about this Purism outfit and they have a phone coming out with the crowdsourcing Librem 5, I think.

1:11:24 And it's a phone and it has like physical hardware switches to turn off the radio. So there's like a real toggle switch that cuts off power to that part of the device. It has no spyware. I guess Richard Stallman's going to bless it. All the things you want to make your calls, but mainly intended to use stuff over the top. So all Wi-Fi. And they have specific Wi-Fi chips. It's very interesting. And the more you are aware of the things people are doing, the more aware you become of what's really being done to you. What kind of amazing pieces of information about you are just flowing. So it's even gotten to a point where one of our producers who used to own a, I guess a local or regional telephone company, he says, hey, I'd like to come out of retirement and, you know, we'll white label a pager company.

1:12:22 We're gonna make pagers hip again. Yes, this was your earlier assertion I think if if we could get new devices, maybe a crowdfund a new pager device make it something cool I think the kids might go for it and then you'll have some bullcrap social and social thing in there So they can text each other, you know, like group text. Hmm pretty colors. No, maybe not. Ah, that could be something I've you know, there's it has potential but I stick with the word potential. Yes, I gotcha. But just speaking of your data being taken, being used, this showed up on... now you know in this building... what are you ringing for? I just rang because the data is being used. It is the new bacon after all. I got to keep that in there. I'm going to keep using that. Let's see. This was... That's what I'm ringing for. Anyway, go on. Okay.

1:13:25 I think where does I have it here? Yes, so my building has nest thermostats pre-installed. Yeah, which I think is just... Yeah, so I have the app. Those things, they have little cameras that spy on you. Well, it gets a little bit better. I also have a nest camera that I had in the Airstream, which I took out of the Airstream, so it's not connected to anything, but it's still in my possession. all of a sudden the the app for the nest which you know, I All I of course you have to connect it to Wi-Fi It pops up in a message and I took a screenshot and it's gonna be in the show notes But I want to share it with you So it says and was very confusing because I just showed it to Tina and she didn't understand It says a client has been updated a client is requesting new permissions now to Tina. She's like like a customer or

1:14:25 You know, it's a typical, stupid opening for a message. And then the next line is Google Assistant has been updated and would like to do the following. Now I've never set up Google Assistant, I don't use Google Assistant, I wouldn't even know where it is, I don't have a Google phone, don't have an Android phone, but it would like to do the following. Control temperature and thermostat settings, which allows Google Assistant to read and set your Nest thermostat through voice. Identify and connect to your Nest products, allows Google Assistant to be enabled in the compatible Nest devices. See your camera settings, receive motion, sound or familiar face alerts and access live video, which allows Google Assistant to stream your Nest camera.

1:15:09 See your system security settings, view sensor and alarm status, and set the alarm, which lets you use your Google Assistant to set the alarm. The Google Assistant connection may not work as expected if you do not allow this access. Contact Google Assistant if you have questions. Allow. Now to an unsuspecting person... Does it have just allow or is there disallow? No, there's no disallow. What? Yep. No block, no nothing. So can you just close that box? Yeah, you can just back out of the notification, but for the unsuspecting person, you're giving up a lot of information, particularly the camera part. Under the guise of, oh yeah, I can say, hey Google Assistant, go check on the house, or whatever. This is very... Hey, go look at Bill's house. Is there a camera in the bedroom, Google? No, no. I would install it if it had that feature.

1:16:15 That'd be great. Maybe it does. Yeah, who knows? But I just, you know, the amount of stuff that is being done and when you really think about what you can do, there's really not much escaping it. I mean even if you never had a face bag account, I mean it's just... That'd be me. Yeah. I don't have a Google Assistant, that'd be me. Yeah. I don't have a Nest thermostat or camera, that'd be me. Yeah. So it's very easy to escape. Yeah, but... Go buy this junk. But there's other stuff. And there's other stuff. I mean you have an Android phone, so whenever you do use it, you're being tracked. Yes, yes, that's probably true. And you know, now they found these mystery Stingray devices all around Washington DC, no one knows who they belong to. The Stingray acts like a cell tower and then sucks up everything that you've got. It sucks up your data. It sucks up everything you've got, including your battery power. I think I told a story before, when J.C. Buzzkill Jr. was working in the city,

1:17:19 He was in a location that was near the Intercontinental, which was where Obama was gonna stay. So they rolled into the area and they set up shop, did security service, set up shop all over the place and lit up a whole slew of stingrays. And he says, you could watch your phone battery drop dead, because they were attaching themselves to everything they could get a hold of, the common hello I'm here signals and then locking onto your phone and then sucking everything off to see if there was anything you know any people around that would you know want to do harm to the president and he says he said you had to turn your phones off otherwise you get what try to get home with a dead battery

1:18:10 Right. It's pretty onerous. It must be running some process then or just just opens up some floodgate So it just has everything go out. I don't know it seems kind of strange. There's got to be a floodgate command Yes, exactly Sock it to me. Well, there's other stuff. I'm just collecting some of these things that I find interesting Grindr you're familiar with the Grindr app has now announced in wake of this face bag Analytica that it will stop sharing users HIV data with other companies. Gee, thanks Grindr. I got a kick out of that story. For people who say you know I got nothing to hide and maybe it shouldn't be something shameful but you know there's all sorts of reasons you don't want companies having that information.

1:19:00 you know, getting a mortgage could suck, just as an example. It all catches up to you. In the UK, it's all bad. Yes. Getmonation East, this is great, the fantastic NHS, the national health system, in order to track down people in Britain who may have broken immigration rules, the government is now turning to doctors who work with refugees and asylum seekers and they're just looking in their records. the doctors have to share that information. They've done the same thing in this country by requiring, this is a few years ago, I know my doctor at the time. Ah, you have to have all your vaccinations and stuff and be HIV free? No, no, no, no, no. It was they required everything to go on a computer.

1:19:50 All the paper records everything yes, you have any paper records anymore You couldn't sit there and write your scribbly notes to yourself. We've talked about this a lot Yeah, and so everything has been the computer and if once it's on the computer that means they can all be you know mind Yes, oh yeah, there's these rules against it, but are there yeah, I guess they crack and stuff This stuff is just this it's weak. Yeah, the anyone thinks that they're not gonna. Just go through it and Should we play some of this Zuckerberg interview? Yeah, I have some of it. You have one? Yeah, I actually put a lot of time into this. Which doesn't mean they're long. I can just be like, oh my god, he's got a little stuff. This was a 45 minute interview with Ezra Klein, hero of the... What did I call your journalist friends again? I forgot.

1:20:43 Wasn't Lib... it was Lib... Libjoes. Libjoes. He is the hero of the Libjoes. Oh, thank you for remembering that. Good one. Hero of the Libjoes. And of course, you know, President Obama sat... No, no, was that... No, that was Mark Maron. What is Ezra Klein? Isn't he just an NPR guy gone rogue? I don't know. I don't know anymore. I think he is. He sat down with the Zuck And let's first listen to, this is all about elections. I think it was more than 30,000 accounts and I think the reports out of France were that people felt like that was a much cleaner election on social media. A few months later.

1:21:27 there were the German elections and there we augmented the playbook again to work directly with the election commission in Germany. Wait a minute, I thought that they said that both in France and Germany we had nothing but reports that there was all kinds of shenanigans. That's what I was led to believe by the media. Well the shenanigans seems that the face bag was colluding, colluding with the governments. Right, the idea is that as an internet company we'll have ability to see some of the content that's in some of the issues that might be happening in an election. But if you work with the government in a country, they'll really actually have a fuller understanding of what are going on and what are all the issues that we would need to focus on. And again, by working with the German government, we were able to focus on a few specific issues. And I think there again, people felt a lot better about how that election went on social media. Any collusion? Fast forward to last year, 2017,

1:22:24 In the special election in Alabama, we deployed a number of new tools that we'd developed to find fake accounts who were trying to spread false news. We got them off before a lot of the discussion around the election. And again, I think we felt a lot better about the result there. So it sounds to me when you say better because it was the Democrats. Yes, that's exactly what he's saying. We felt a lot better about the result there after we deployed our new tools. Mean I'm sorry Ezra, but as an NPR dude you should have followed up on that like what do you mean? I mean you felt good. Did you you're happy that? That the Democrat won and what I would ask what were these new tools that you deployed? Anyways, I would ask that too now we know from the promo the the house ads

1:23:15 on MSNBC that there's a recode interview coming up between Kara Swisher and the other lesbian Chris Hayes, see how I did that, and Tim Cook and we've seen... Yeah, and it worked very well except for the fact that you called yourself out. I just want to remind you that it's probably not kosher. You had a good line. Yeah, I'm an idiot. Well, I'm just saying you don't have to know if they break about your goose prowess good point But I need someone to hit the like button. All right next time you do that. Just say the whole thing again I'll give you I'll give you what you need. Okay, so it was an interview between Kara Swisher and then who's the other lesbian Chris Hayes? Actually hit at the wrong time It's your great moment Sorry

1:24:12 That's okay. And in this, we know from the promo material that Tim Cook said, you know, the question was, what would you do if you were Mark Zuckerberg in this situation? He says, I wouldn't get into it. This wouldn't happen to me. This scenario wouldn't happen to me. So we need a response from Zuck. Here it is. One of the things that has been coming up a lot in the conversation is whether the business model of roughly monetizing user attention is what is letting in a lot of these problems. Tim Cook, the CEO of Apple, gave an interview the other day and he was asked, what would you do if you were in Mark Zuckerberg's shoes? He said, I would not be in Mark Zuckerberg's shoes. Apple sells products to users. It doesn't sell users to advertisers. And so it's a sounder business model that doesn't open itself to these problems. Do you think part of the problem here is the business model where attention ends up dominating above all else? And so anything that can engage does have

1:25:08 at least some powerful value within the ecosystem? You know, I find that argument that if you're not paying, that somehow we can't care about you to be extremely glib, right? And not at all aligned with the truth. You know, the reality here is that if you want to build a service that helps connect everyone in the world, then there are a lot of people who can't afford to pay. And therefore, as with a lot of media, having an advertising supported model is the only rational model that can support building the service to reach people. That doesn't mean that we're not primarily focused on serving people. I think probably to the dissatisfaction of our sales team here, I make all of our decisions based on what's going to matter to our community and improve the experience and focus much less and very little on the advertising side of the business.

1:26:08 But I mean look if you want to build a service which is not just serving rich people then You need to have something that people can afford. Oh wait a minute rich Well, can I be on the rich people face bag this sounds like it sounds like another business opportunity John face Facebook for rich people you know I thought yeah, Bezos had an excellent saying on this one in one of his kindle launches a number of years back. He said, there are companies that work hard to charge you more and there are companies that work hard to charge you less.

1:26:44 And at Facebook, we are squarely in the camp of the companies that work hard to charge you less and provide a free service that everyone can use. I don't think at all that that means that we don't care about people. I think to the contrary, I think it's important that we don't all get Stockholm syndrome and let the companies that work hard to charge you more convince you that they actually care more about you. I see. When he said that, I'm like, oh, hold on a second. He's worried about the Stockholm Syndrome. He's worried about it getting out of control. You don't think so? I can't say one way or the other. I just think it's weird that he dropped that bomb in there like that. Then... It's obviously on his mind. Yeah, of course it has to be. And he must be getting a lot of heat. Certainly from the shareholder department, which he's never really had. He's always been the darling.

1:27:41 So now I know what it's like when you miss a quarter or do something else or just when the stock price drops, it's like everyone's pissed off at you. And especially the guys that you sucked up to so hard when you did your IPO. Now, I think this interview was recorded before Facebag started clarifying its terms of service, which I haven't seen published yet, but I'm told it is. There was a little something in this short clip which I'm surprised Klein, well not really surprised, but Klein didn't pick up on it either. have, I think, gotten a lot of focus inside the company. And they're real issues, and we take this really seriously. I mean, one of the... I remember one Saturday morning, I got a phone call and we detected that people were trying to spread sensational messages through... It was Facebook Messenger in this case, to each side of the conflict, basically telling the Muslims

1:28:42 hey, there's about to be an uprising of the Buddhists, so make sure that you are armed and go to this place. And then the same thing on the other side. So that's the kind of thing where I think it is clear that people were trying to use our tools in order to incite real harm. Now, in that case, our systems detect that that's going on. We stop those messages from going through, and hopefully we're able to prevent any kind of real-world harm there. But I mean, this is certainly something that we're paying a lot of attention to. It's a real issue. And we want to make sure that all of the tools that we're bringing to bear on eliminating hate speech and citing violence and basically protecting the integrity of civil discussions that we're doing in places like Myanmar, as well as places like the U.S. that do get a disproportionate amount of attention. So my takeaway here is that they are scanning Messenger on everybody, which is supposed to be your private messaging. So they're scanning through it. He just admitted that.

1:29:45 Looking for hate speech. I don't know how the system works. So I don't know what a private how the private messaging works Those aren't public messages. No, it's not. It's no messenger is direct or anything. Is it? Messenger spun out from Face bag you can no longer use it on your phone on the web version You have to get a separate app and that's your direct message app you can you can you could put multi lit like email you can put multiple people in the address field and But it's private. It's not published publicly and so they're just scanning that for I guess keywords and and then jumping in and changing history I mean, come on. Well, that can't be helping the business If I have a system that I expect to get a private message from from me to you. No, they're scanning with their AI Hmm. Well, that's not the worst of it. My final clip is really what this is all about. I

1:30:43 It is a globalist tool. I'm sorry platform with tools and Zuckerberg is driving it sure I mean, I think since I wrote that we've we've certainly learned he's discussing his 2017 Manifesto which I don't know him and Bill Gates. Yeah that one more about how to do this but the big thing that I was thinking about when I wrote that was how the world coming closer together is not a given. But for most of Facebook's existence, in 2004 when I got started, you know, if you'd told me that people weren't going to- Hey, stop. Keep connecting more. Stop. Yeah. You can back it up. I know exactly what you're gonna say. In 2004, he started it to pick up chicks. Well, when he said it, he said, start Ted. He had two words. Oh no. I missed that. And I'm thinking it when I start

1:31:42 He said when I start Ted, what was he thinking with start and supposed to start ed? Play it again because it's just very strange. This guy's like robotic. It was a data throughput glitch. It was a total glitch. The world coming closer together is not a given. Right for most of Facebook's existence in 2004 when I got started. No, he says I got started. If you told me I got started, it wasn't all that bad. Wasn't that bad? I think it's later. It was what? Okay, maybe, maybe that was it, but I thought it was a, it was more profound. Maybe it was a glitch in the feed. Maybe it was a data throughput glitch in your brain. Packets received. Okay, here we go. That people weren't going to

1:32:34 keep connecting more and that there wouldn't be more global cooperation. I mean, I kind of had taken that as a given that the world would move in that direction. I think over the last few years, the political reality has been that a lot of people are feeling left behind by globalization and different issues. And there's been a big rise of isolationism and nationalism that has threatened some of the global cooperation that will be required to solve some of the bigger issues like maintaining peace, addressing climate change, eventually collaborating a lot in accelerating science and curing diseases and eliminating poverty. So I kind of take it as

1:33:16 This is a huge part of our mission, is that I think a lot of these problems require people coming together and having a global understanding. One of the things that I found heartening is if you ask millennials what they identify the most with, it's not their nationality or even their ethnicity, it's the plurality identify as a citizen of the world. And I think that's strong. And that I think reflects the values of where we need to go in order to solve some of these bigger questions. So now the question is how do you do that? I think it's clear that just helping people connect by itself isn't always positive. When you give people a tool,

1:33:56 It's more positive than negative. Clearly, there's a lot of good things that happen, but then there's also abuse and there are bad things that happen. And a much bigger part of the focus for me now is making sure that as we're connecting people, we are helping to build bonds and bring people closer together. Rather than just focused on the mechanics of the connection and the infrastructure, as you say. But I think that there's a number of different pieces that you need to do here. Civic society basically starts bottom up, right? You need to have well-functioning groups and communities. We're very focused on that. You need a well-informed citizenry. So we're very focused on making sure that the quality of journalism and that everyone has a voice and that people can get access to the content that they need.

1:34:42 That I think ends up being really important. Civic engagement, both being involved in elections and increasingly working to eliminate interference and different nation states trying to interfere in each other's elections ends up being really important. And then I think part of what we need to do is work on some of the new types of governance questions that we started out this conversation with because there hasn't been a community like this that has spanned so many different countries. And that's an open question. We are all going to die. This guy's a lunatic. He's got Napoleon shit. I get the biggest kick out of multi-billionaires who have their private jets. I'm being a little bit of an ass here about this. Climate change. They got their private, well, the climate change, by the way, the climate change thing, my mudflats have expanded. No. I don't know if there's a huge low tide or whatever it is, but they're almost out halfway to the bay. It's unbelievable. Oh. Anyway. Tsunami warning.

1:35:41 That's what it looks like, but it's going on for a week. I think that the arrogance of these billionaires going on about, you know, the global, I'm a global citizen. You know, there's most people have not left their own community. There are people in Long Island that have never been to Manhattan. There are tons of people that live in Germany that have never been to France when it's just a simple train ride and go to Paris. No, not going, not going. to have this arrogance about, oh, the global system. I'm a global citizen and that's what everybody thinks nowadays, all the millennials. The millennials, most of whom can't drive, they're all of a sudden global citizens, citizens of the globe. The earth is my home. I live on earth. Yeah, I want you to move to the Cameroon. I mean, it's just unbelievable. It just sickens me, these guys.

1:36:40 Yeah, and he believes that he's building a globalist tool. Until we collectively understand that the internet is that tool and we take matters into our own hands and just connect stuff together, which is the way it was intended in the first place, and stop being lazy bastards, maybe we will be able to change something. But don't leave it to these jerks. It never happens. These guys, they set up shop doing something like Facebook and everybody's, oh that's easier than me having to do any work being the global citizen that I am.

1:37:16 And they just join and they put their stuff on, I only put my photos on here for everyone to see. Look at, I was there with Drunken Sally, hey, that's Sally and this is Jamie. I mean, this to me is ridiculous. I mean, and I say the same thing about that woman that shot up YouTube, you know, shot in the ground. It's just a symptom, a symptom of the disease. Put your own videos up. We do our pod, we don't use, for this podcast, we put up our own servers. We don't use Podbean. You know, I still get their newsletter though. Well if you're doing a small little podcast and you didn't care about it, you guys said, hey you know I don't like you anymore. Well you know you can always, you're out. You can always upload your stuff to archive.org

1:38:05 Yeah, there's that. You know, someone suggested that for us. I'm like, well, you know, we really need a little bit of control over stuff. We want it to get out and, you know, we have huge surges of data. You know, Void Zero has... The archive can't handle this surge. No, Void Zero has a permanent alarm system set. So when I release the RSS feed, you know, bells and whistles go off and Sir Bemrose is, you know, on high alert. Because when that goes wrong, it goes really wrong. So, and also, you know, I'm sure they could handle the load, but they'd be like, hey, what are you jabronis doing? Yeah, that would be exploitation. Yeah, that's not fair. That's not nice. That's not being a good netizen. I don't mind archiving this stuff for the long haul, but not when the show comes out. It's not being a good netizen.

1:38:56 And we're good netizens. Remember that? Remember we used to call it netizens? Yeah, that died. Yeah, once those commercial guys came in like Curry, ruined it all, ruined the internet. Well, I do have the thing that was played on the news, because he came out and every news channel had him going on apologizing, I don't know about what, half the time. For the stock price being down, that's what he's really apologizing for. Yeah, what do we have here? A Facebook rundown NBC? That would be it. But our top story this evening is Facebook. Making several major headlines, it's embattled CEO Mark Zuckerberg agreeing to testify before Congress as we also learned today that the siphoning of Facebook user data by Cambridge Analytica was far bigger than first announced. Our Miguel Almaguer has the latest.

1:39:56 Tonight, Facebook says the personal data of up to 87 million people, mostly in the U.S., was improperly shared with Cambridge Analytica, tens of millions more than previously thought. The privacy scandal connected to the 2016 election, a breach of trust. The fallout forcing Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg to now testify before Congress next week for the first time. Today he spoke to reporters by phone. It's not enough to just give people a voice. We have to make sure that people are not using that voice to hurt people.

1:40:33 Zuckerberg taking full responsibility saying he's the best person to run his company trying to reassure users and the company's shareholders. We didn't take a broad enough view of what our responsibility is and that was a huge mistake. It was my mistake. Facebook also announcing new security features to protect its 2 billion users, saying nearly all have had basic information taken. The fact that someone could come along, look at your public Facebook page and take that data down and use it in other ways is not at all surprising to me. With some leaving Facebook, the company is losing value, down $87 billion. Tonight, Facebook accused of sharing too much.

1:41:20 All eyes now on the quiet CEO as Zuckerberg goes to Washington. Tonight Cambridge Analytica says it only accessed the information of 30 million individuals, not 87 million. As for Facebook, the social media giant says starting Monday it'll notify its users if their personal information may have been compromised. Lester? What a shit show. Fun to watch though. I love seeing the guy sweat a little. He should go into one of those sweating modes if you've never seen his sweating episode. Well, maybe that'll happen in front of Congress. That would be great. I hate to sound vindictive, but...

1:42:04 I think he doesn't know what to expect because he's never testified before a bunch of a-holes like some of these guys can be. I mean they'll be all, thank you for coming Mr. Zuckerberg. Well it'll be interesting to see if everyone's sucking up or not. I don't think I think I can see some guys not sucking up it won't get played much we're gonna have to watch the c-span because no one's gonna play the good stuff on the networks so we'll find the good stuff on c-span and then see how he actually may be I don't know I mean it seems to me that you want

1:42:42 You want to do a Trump and put people who can talk in front of the Congress and that would be Sheryl Sandberg. She's one of those executives, she used to work at the government in that executive corps. Bouncing around from the CIA. Yes, he's pretty cleared and all that. She's all yeah She knows what she knows what the government's like she's been there and she knows how to speak in public She's been a lot of talk shows and been personable not like Zuckerberg being interviewed in it like a robot She's the one she'd handled it. She'd save the company, but no now he figures he can do it. You know why misogyny

1:43:23 That's it. Mark Zuckerberg is misogynist. The right person for the job, no doubt about it, is Sheryl Sandberg. Yeah, there's no question about it. And then there's no excuse not to let her... No one's gonna say, well we wanted to talk to the CEO. She says, I... me, we work together. You're talking to the same... we're all part of a team. She'd handle that question. Yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah. You know and of course we'll be watching the C-Span to get something just like One of our producers was watching a Tennessee House debate. This is House bill 1950 about hazing in college and Just to give you an idea of how stupid some people are listen to this Jim and we're also just targeting fraternities and sororities and so what I would like to do is is actually make a motion to send this to summer study so that we can figure out a

1:44:16 what the real problem is and what Tennessee can actually do about it. I don't think we know the answer to either one of those two questions right now. And again, this bill seems to kind of cherry pick just those fraternities and sororities, which on itself seems a little bit offensive to those groups. But then on the back side of it, the punishment so light that it doesn't really seem to fit the crime, so to speak. So with your indulgence and with the committee's help, I do think this warrants a larger conversation and I would like to make a motion and send it to summer study. It's a motion and a second. That is a debatable motion and Vice Chairman, I will say you make some good points. I mean, a C misdemeanor is basically a traffic offense. I mean, it's a stop sign or a speeding ticket. Representative Van Husk.

1:45:00 Thank you sir and I agree with Vice Chairman Kersey's sentiment. I'm reading right here on The Onion a report about Kentucky seniors who haze freshman basketball players. Isn't that great? Unbelievable. I'm reading it in the onion. And then he quotes it. What an idiot. And no one says anything. Just quiet. And yeah, that's the other thing. No one says anything. Hey, just back to OTG for one second. I learned something that I did not know, and we are big fans of Ham. Not that Data is the new Bacon, but Ham Radio, amateur radio.

1:45:39 We both are licensed. I'm a little more. And everyone out there should get a license. If anyone knows anything about computers, you can almost pass the technical one just without even taking any sample quizzes. It's multiple choice. You get all the answers in a different order. The quizzes, there's only X number of questions they can ask. Those are all public. You can read over the questions and the answers to all the questions you'll be asked. It doesn't take a genius to pass this test. And it'll just be in a different order. That's all. As a technician you're allowed to do this so with that with that really quite simple test you can transceive on 70 centimeters and 2 meters a couple other bands as well, but There is a community. There is a ham community that is using the POCSAG protocol and POCSAG protocol is the pager protocol and

1:46:34 and they're hooking up, you know, cheap restaurant pager systems that you can buy off Amazon or eBay or Alibaba. And then they're hooking it up to 50 watts. I think you can actually go up to 200 even as a technician. And you can bridge it with a... as a pager that will repeat messages and will receive them as well. So you can set up your own two-way messaging service. You know, 200 watts, you can do pretty good. around town. You can do pretty well. Pretty well and you can also mesh that with other hams so you have a handoff and we could build our own off-the-grid network. And the purpose would be? It's just stop doing this podcast and have a life and be rich. How? Off the pager network. No? How do you monetize the pager network? Well people have to pay a subscription fee

1:47:39 Oh. Yeah. Okay, well you might be on to something or on something. One of the two. Yeah, exactly. Maybe some of that new weed. Have you heard about this stuff? People are smoking this synthetic weed. Don't smoke synthetic weed. I mean, I don't understand what people are doing. It looks like potpourri. All right, we begin with this hour's big story. Right now, police and health officials in the Chicago area are scrambling to track down and shut down the source of synthetic marijuana that is killing people. So far, three people have been arrested. They're charged.

1:48:14 with trying to sell the fake weed to a convenience store. Two of the suspects made their initial appearance today before a judge. Now let's explain why it's so dangerous. Preliminary testing of some of that fake weed showed it was laced with a toxic substance frequently used in rat poison. The Illinois Department of Health says right now there have been at least 70 reports of people who have experienced terrible symptoms like severe bleeding including bloody gum. Some even say they cough up blood after taking the drug. So far two people have lost their lives and officials fear more people could die. Yeah and this people with blood coming out of their ears, out of their eyes,

1:48:56 people what's the name of the of this weed Ebola Ebola people it's a weed plant some seeds anything do not be it looks like potpourri what are they thinking and finally we're getting back donors yeah or no I think it's idiots idiots why would you I mean kids they really they got guts I mean back in the day we like you know who would you get this from? You'd be laying all over the place. Remember that when you say where'd you get the weed from? Who's it from? You check it out. Just want to know. Just want to know where it's from. You never did that? No. Oh. You never smoked. Kratom back under fire once again. This is the... Yeah, this is a shame. I still have a bag. I still have a bag of this that I just haven't had the guts to try yet.

1:49:53 But we have a lot of producers who use it to wean themselves off of opioids. They use it instead of opioids. It seems to be an absolute magical. It's good for all kinds of magical herb. Again, just like marijuana, it comes from nature, from a tree. For decades in Southeast Asia, the leaves of the kratom tree have been used to treat aches and pain. Here in the United States, you can buy Kratom over the counter in the form of a powder, pill or tea. According to the American Kratom Association, 3 to 5 million people in this country have used Kratom products. The research that's been done indicates that people are using Kratom to help alleviate chronic pain, to treat mood disorders like anxiety and depression, and in some

1:50:33 cases to help wean themselves off of opioids. But the FDA says kratom itself is an opioid. The FDA warns it can be dangerous and even fatal, saying it's associated with more than three dozen deaths. The Centers for Disease Control says kratom may be tied to recent salmonella outbreaks, The CDC recommends Kratom should not be consumed in any form. Consumer Reports also has concerns because like all supplements, Kratom is not regulated. Any given Kratom product can be grossly mislabeled. It can be laced with other substances including illegal drugs or prescription medications and it can interact with other medications that you're taking in ways that are really dangerous.

1:51:12 Right now, the Drug Enforcement Agency lists Kratom as a drug and chemical of concern. But DEA could reclassify Kratom to the same category as heroin, LSD, and ecstasy, essentially banning it for consumers. The American Kratom Association argues making Kratom illegal could drive more people to prescription painkillers or illegal drugs to treat their symptoms. The organization says it supports appropriate FDA regulations to ensure the safety and purity of kratom But not a ban the DEA is reviewing data and public comments Yeah, although we are getting a deregulation so people will be able to try experimental pharma drugs. That's okay

1:51:58 Jeez. Madhouse. It's a madhouse. Yeah, and especially when you hear a report like this, thank goodness. Legalizing marijuana could lead to fewer people taking prescription painkillers, and experts say that means people might be less likely to overdose on opioids. Two studies released today looked at Medicare and Medicaid patients in states where pot is legal. It found that opioids were prescribed less often and taken less in those states. Medical marijuana has been called a lower risk alternative to opioids by advocates, but some disagree. Other studies have found marijuana might lead to future opioid use. Experts want states and the federal government to pay for more studies to see if there is a link.

1:52:39 Could there be a link for thousands of years, thousands of years? There's no money for studies. Speaking of Lacey... Before we get off that topic, you might as well, I do have a... Oh, sorry. I have a similar one. Where is it? Maybe I didn't move it over. It was on the last week. It was about the killer, hospital killer. They found out that People are dropping dead in the hospital. I can look it up real quick Yes, and look at last week's list last week or the last show last show a second I gotta go. I'm diving deep here for you, bro Diving deep okay. I have to go into the database, but here it is under JCD clips we have I don't see anything about weed

1:53:31 No, a hospital. A hospital death secret. Yes. And it's not botched surgeries or risky procedures. On your side, Chief Investigator Ron Regan joins us when finding thousands of avoidable deaths are happening in hospitals across the country. These are patients who are recovering so well they're back in their own hospital room talking with family members. But we found far too many are dying within hours and hospitals are failing to rescue. What's happening? Well, this is actually a long report, but nobody wants to talk about this. But first you go into recovery and then you go into just the everyday room is where you're not monitored that much. Right. And you're healthy. You're good. You're ready to go home. You're going to go home in an hour. Two hours later, you're dead.

1:54:18 It turns out that they're giving everybody these painkillers. Oh, you're kidding me. Fentanyl and all the rest of it is and it's depressing their their lung function just enough that if they have sleep apnea then they die in their sleep. They take a nap and drop dead. Oh, well, they're already dropped you would assume. By the thousands. Holy crap. Yes. Oh my gosh, this is a scandal. It's a total scandal. They're trying to make it into one but it's been... that report's the last time I've heard of it. What station was that on? What network? Where'd that come from? I think it was on ABC but I'm not sure. This warrants further investigation. Yes it does. Just like the Novichok which... and I don't know what happened. I thought I had a clip of the guy from Porton Down

1:55:14 saying this but I can't find it now, Porton Down experts said they were unable to identify the source of the Novichok virus. That's not their job as well they say. Not a virus, it's the nerve agent. The nerve agent, I'm sorry. Yeah, it's not our job. It's not our job to find out where it's from even though the government clearly knows. They've got it all figured out. It came from Russians. But the... Yeah, sure. That's why the Russians can't get a copy of it so they can prove it didn't come from Russia. Exactly. If it's even Novichok. But here comes the latest... This thing stinks to high heaven. Well, here comes the latest that I really loved. Apparently, these two had dinner at a restaurant, the ZZ restaurant in Salisbury. And this could be total crap because it's coming from Sputnik, so I don't know.

1:56:10 But that they had fugu, fugu fish. What are they serving fugu for? It's Salisbury restaurant in the UK. I'm just reporting on what the Russian sources say. I thought it was great. And that's the Japanese blowfish that if prepared incorrectly you will die. Yeah, you get nerved in. It's a nerve agent. Yeah. Well, how about that? In fact, even when this stuff is not contaminated with, I think it's gallbladder, some little thing gets in there, one drop and you're done. The flesh itself gives you a kind of a slight numbness and a buzz that makes you think you're gonna die anyway. It has to be prepared in Japan by a specialist. Yes. And very, I mean, still a few people die every year, but it's usually because you ate it in Salisbury. Remember, I don't believe this story. Remember, it's not the fish that kill people.

1:57:09 Yeah. Well if that's true, then the problem is that the first responder, why would make him have an issue? And then we can finally change the... if this were true though, you could just, you could change all the headlines in the UK. It was a blowjob. Yeah, you could, you could do that. You could actually do that. I could see the sun do that. Yeah. Okay, let's get the keep up with some little bit of Well, here's another a NBC. This is a weird NBC Trump rundown I got a kick out of this because this was on the one of the shows they're talking about the YouTube shooter and they they had to get their digs in with Trump with a very weak presentation I thought because Trump

1:58:00 once again brought up fake news and this was like, oh, this is so awkward that he did that and what's he doing? So this is like a lame report from NBC trying to make Trump look bad. The president today also reinforcing his support for Baltic allies anxious about their own shared border with Russia, repeatedly touting a tough track record despite having never publicly condemned Vladimir Putin. Nobody's been tougher to Russia than Donald Trump. But getting along with Russia would be a good thing, not a bad thing. And just about everybody agrees to that, except very stupid people. Before concluding the news conference with journalists from four countries, this glaring moment. You could pick a reporter, a Baltic reporter ideally. Real news, not fake news.

1:58:49 Also tonight a milestone in the Russia investigation, a lawyer becoming the first person going to prison. A federal judge today making an example out of Alex Van Der Zwaan sentencing the London-based lawyer to 30 days behind bars for lying the special counsel Robert Mueller's team. That's the big deal? The guy's going to jail for 30 days? I don't even know who this guy is. That was the Dutch guy, the Dutch lawyer. It was with a manifold. What did he say? They're gonna throw him in jail for 30 days, like contempt of court. Yeah, I have no idea. Probably. Probably. I don't know. But it makes the president sound like a real jailbird, that report. Yeah, that was the idea. They also said, used the word glaring, this thing where he says, the guy said, this report is worth listening to and deconstructing, the guy says, it's glaring. Glaring. Glaring right in my face. It's so horrible.

1:59:43 I mean the whole thing was just a you know, it was unbelievable to me this report. They also, what is the preoccupation with Trump having, he has to, he's a douchebag unless he condemns Putin. Oh and he has to do it quickly. Well, it's already the quickly part is a done. That's over. So if he ever does condemn him, which I doubt well, this is part of the Game of Thrones shaming culture that we've somehow latched on to and it supposed to work before we take our break My thrones shaming culture. Yes, where did that come from? Well, that's what they do shame shame Shame. Yes

2:00:27 They shame... I actually like that little ditty. Game of Thrones, shame culture. No, not shaming, just shame. Game of Thrones, shame culture. Shame culture. Is it a column? No, it's not a column. It's just an interesting observation because I don't never watched Game of Thrones. So you wrote it down? Yeah, I did write it down. And what are you gonna do with that piece of paper? Is it going on the pile? It's gonna go on the pile and get lost. Okay, good. When we take our break, we like to talk about our model. Our model is the value for value model where we learn very early on it makes a lot more sense for people to just give us what you think the show is worth and that's very different to people based upon their personal circumstances for whole different reasons.

2:01:16 There was there's yet, and this is like another podcast network raised five million dollars Oh, yeah, Hannah Lopez Wondery podcast network And yeah, and I just love this because all these jabronis have all invented this wheel my phone's not ringing Oh, yeah, my phone is ringing to talk about point in the newsletter mentioning this I think did I mmm in the newsletter I No, I don't think so. I put it somewhere. It wasn't in this last. Maybe I just know it was a tweet. I think I don't know what it was. I just I'm crazy. I'm out of control. But when I will say that it's ridiculous to me that the guy who invented the medium has never been contacted by anybody rolling out these things that would you'd be perfect. You'd be a good figurehead. I mean, you already have been once. Well, I

2:02:09 Think they all know my stance. That's why they're not interested. They want me to come on CNBC and talk about Spotify I mean, I don't give a shit about podcasting you blew your opportunity. Yep, please This guy our producer our producer will have me on and I will not say Michael Jackson was killed We can't put our guy in jeopardy. That would be no good But there was a you know, the the gym lit the giblet and the podcast network Alex Bloomberg Forget the yeah, the Gimlet. It's the the ex-NPR people. They started their network. All right, the Gimlet the Gimlet's Yeah, so they're on the the Goldman Sachs talk which is like a TED talk only it's bad and as an interview with Alex Bloomberg of Gimlet and The second guy who answered at the end of the clip is Jacob Weisberg He's the editor-in-chief at slate and these are podcast gurus you see

2:03:09 And so this is all really... this is not sour grapes on my part, this is just historical fact and they're stupid. It's funny to listen to. Because we've literally invented this it's gonna take them 10 years to figure it out that you can't monetize the network. They just think it's radio. They just think it's right they just want it to be radio they think that they can do it with with ads. We have studios we have studios. Transmitters! We don't need no stinking transmitters. But we do need a board. We need a board up and we need a you know intern. Engineer, producer, board up. All kinds of people yeah. Runners we need. We need all that.

2:03:50 So listen to these jimokes. What do you think the future of the business is or the future of the medium? I mean, don't ask me that question. What do you think the future is of the medium? What do you think his answer is, John? Ah, sky's the limit. Yeah, in a way. What do you think the future of the business is or the future of the medium is? I mean, I like to say at panels like this that we're at the dawn of the second golden age of audio. I think that like if you think about the first golden age it was like 20s, 30s radio. Radio was king. Everybody had a radio. And all these big names got started, you know, Lucille Ball and like Orson Welles and CBS got started around then. And then TV came along and sort of like

2:04:36 People had their radios started with NBC. Did Lucio Ball start in radio? Yeah, it started with well, she started she's a movie actress and she did a lot of radio, but she didn't maybe she had a show I don't think so. I don't remember it. But I mean he mentioned Jack Benny and all these kids Bob Hope right and if you mentioned NBC, which is really the first Network CBS. Oh, no, no, no, no, no that But you already hear where he's going. It's radio! Came along and sort of like... Yes, radio. People had their radios in their corner and they sat around and looked at them, but of course they don't have any pictures on the radio and the TV comes along and they're like, oh we're gonna stick that in the corner and watch it because it's much better to watch. But now with like on-demand, now that we have on-demand audio available to everyone, it's changing the form the same way that on-demand TV changed the form and

2:05:23 And I think we're just going to see an explosion of... we're seeing and we are going to continue to see an explosion. That is what you just heard there is someone who is used to pitching investors. And he caught himself saying we're going to see... no, no, we're seeing it now. That is... am I wrong? I don't say you're wrong. I don't know. I mean it sounds like it's a it sounds like a pitch the whole thing. It sounds like a bullcrap pitch to Goldman Sachs for Goldman Sachs to invest in them I think and I think we're just gonna see an explosion of we're seeing and we are going to continue to see an Explosion of new kinds of programming. I think it's gonna continue to penetrate mainstream behavior and I think

2:06:06 I think in the future, do you listen to podcasts is going to be as weird a question as do you watch video? You know, they're gonna say, what do you, what kind of podcasts do you listen to? Do you like reality podcasts? Do you like narrative podcasts? Do you like fiction podcasts? I think that's... I like comic book podcasts. That's where we're headed. You know... If he didn't say, he hit the brief, you know, for a guy who's a pitch man, he did this, I think, I think, I think could have been eliminated and been a lot stronger. Now listen to the second guy make the classic mistake which I myself made 10 years ago. I guess do you like fiction podcasts? I think that's that's where we're headed. Yeah. Yeah, and that's already for people in their 20s That's what we're already there But I think for the older audience for people over 50 It's tougher to get people to adapt and I don't know that. Oh really you ages prick That is an ages prick thing. You say over 50 can't figure out podcasting. We're both over 50

2:06:57 I'm reliably informed. It's really fun to be involved in this right now because you have this feeling which I also experienced when we were first developing internet journalism at Slate that we're inventing this new medium. There's bottomless possibility and there's all this enthusiasm and excitement about it. And there are things like, I mean around the drama and storytelling shows that aren't journalism but are fiction. You know, that really went out in America in the 1960s and it's coming back.

2:07:40 And suddenly, you know, you have a medium and you have storytellers and you have new kinds of stories, but you have to retrain the audience. But there's an audience that's ready to do this. And I just have to say it's so much fun to be involved in this right now. I love this. You have to retrain the audience. That's my favorite line ever. Retrain the audience. Yeah, that's how you set up a successful business. You tell your customers they're doing it wrong. Although Apple did kind of do that pretty well, but still. Retrain your audience. You know what this is because I was looking through the chat of the troll room as well They say you have fan Donations don't work. No, it doesn't work if you do patreon or set amounts or pitch in this is stupid It's stupid if you have an outstanding product let people give you what they want including nothing including artwork or clips or information or whatever they can give and

2:08:36 If you're sincere, it will work. It's that simple. There's other things you gotta do around it. I mean, you gotta have a newsletter. There's all kinds of things you have to do. I'm always reminded of Briney, whoever once in a while I get a call of, because I... I gave her a lot of mentoring. Congressional Dish podcast. Yes, to keep her on the right track. And she ended up with Patreon anyway, but she takes checks and she does all, she actually uses every income stream she can figure out. And I'm telling you, one thing or another, she's doing certain things. She's telling me, I should probably do it this way, I should probably do it that way. And at some point she says to me, you know, I go to every one of these podcasting conventions. And I don't make more money.

2:09:22 And she says, no, there's that. But then she says, and not one person ever says anything that you're telling me. There's our business opportunity. Just, we should do a master class. A master class. We could do a one day or a two day, one day seminar. Well, how much can we make with that? Well, I used to take, I was a big fan of these things when I was doing a lot of direct marketing when I was younger. And there was a lot of different, I mean the best class I took was a three-day seminar in New York City by the Direct Marketing Association and this very famous guy, Pierre Passavant, who gave these seminars. Oh, Pierre.

2:10:08 Yes, old Pierre. And then I started taking some other ones and I took a lot of the one days. And this was a while ago and they were $150. And they would get in, I don't know, about 50 people. But that was then, I think the price now for a one day, and it was like probably six hours of material, I think it could be $400, $500, you can probably get 50, you can probably make 20 grand at a pop. I just figured it out. Here's how we do it. We do value for value for the conference, for the master class. Give us whatever you think it's worth. Well, the problem with that is that I think it's a good idea except for one thing. You need an auditorium. Yes. We're not doing the real estate scam where you bring a whole bunch of people in and then do value add to make your money. These are small... Well, we can sell timeshare on the way out. So maybe the small advantage is you can probably maybe get 50 people, 100 people at the most.

2:11:10 That's a you could do it. I think we could probably get a number of people to To take come in and listen to our way of doing things which is totally alien to what I don't why don't we just do online course so we don't have to leave or go anywhere about this we just don't do any of it there you go Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah Help me Classic. Well, I want to thank a few people for helping us out here on Show 1022. Bruce Schwalm in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania sent a check in for $125. Sir Pete Barron of North Holland and Friesland. Friesland buppa!

2:12:02 Yes, one, two, three, four, five. He's the Baron of North Holland and Friesland. Yeah, I read his note because he's a Baron. His payment is to get back on track for my tuition fee payments for the media deconstruction school of no agenda. Just what we're talking about. Yes, exactly. A.K.A. no KNOW agenda. Looking into setting up a giant scholarship at the school for students. A grant for scholarship, he says. A grant. onward. Ben Todman in Mount Riverview, New South Wales. Hold on a second. Yeah, you've cleared your throat. He actually, he went on a little bit, he says, I'm looking into setting up a grant for the scholarship at the school, that's our school, for students. Not clear on the details, but perhaps some dukes and barons are interested. Karma has served me well. He said, I can't believe you missed this clear money-making opportunity.

2:12:57 Yeah, just another one of them. We won't do that one either. Alright. Let's hope for the best with it. Sir Pete's got a lot of gumption. That guy's that guy. He'll figure it out. He'll tell us what to do. John Robinet. No, Ben Todman. I'm sorry. No, I did Ben Thompson's Mount Riverview, New South Wales. Okay, good 100 John Robben a parts unknown Baron Lada Quinn Lada Quinn in Houston, Texas $100 Robert Wiltshire in Burke, Virginia $100. It's nice Richard Altman 83 65 Dude named Muhammad Ali. Oh 8008

2:13:36 Which is 100, uh, your name, huh, yeah, boob for your birthday, John. Can't read the spreadsheet Dvorak. Read it, didn't I? Adrian Ramos says, by the way, I've changed my way of presenting this spreadsheet. That's why you haven't heard so many bitches and moans. It's been working quite well. I'm impressed. I thought it was the B12. Nope. Nope. Okay. Adrian Ramos, 70, the B12 is what got me lib Joe. Adrian Ramos, 73, 39. Sir got Nate in Sebastopol, California 6969 6959 no 6969. Okay. Got it. I know it's 6969 It was a check. He always gives 6969. Got it. Sir Brian white knight of the rainbow nation not Houston, Texas He's OTG not in Houston 6669 sir start to

2:14:34 Slardar, Slardar Barfand. Barfist, Slardar Barfist. Slardar Barfist. I guess. I don't remember this. Hope, Rhode Island. Hmm. Happy birthday, Jenny boy, he says. Sir Chris of the low earth orbit. By the way, that was 6666 and so is Chris 6666. We had a lot of 6666 today in Houston. A double birthday call for JCD. Matthew Rent in Mound, Minnesota. Renz in Mound. 6666 for the pager fund. I guess you're getting one. Everybody's got something funny to say on 6666 today. Devin Enright in New Brunswick, New Jersey. Another happy birthday for... Oh, this is Smoking Hot Girlfriend. Tammy Lynn. It's the same birthday I do.

2:15:27 In fact, we have a whole bunch of birthdays today. Brian, Brian, Baron, Sir Baron Mark Tanner in Whittier, California, 6666. Sir Gregory Worley in Evington, Virginia, 6633. Did Baron Mark Tanner have a note? No, he sends that check in twice a month. Oh, it looked highlighted as a note. I'm sorry. No, it's highlighted as a check. Okay. The check sometimes, I mean, if they do it themselves, this is through a bank. Okay, you got a count somewhere. They send this check every twice a month nice that great Gilbrecht After Kevin Johnson Kevin Johnson six six three three and he says happy birthday of smoking hot wife Nikki. She's on the list She's turning 33. Hmm. Yeah that reminds me I should read this note unless we got a note from somebody donate a 70 something and he says

2:16:23 Uh, Ms. Skripal of the poisoning fame is 33 years old and her dad is 66. Mm-hmm. Say no more. We get it. Wink wink, nudge nudge. Fugu. Fugu. Now it's Fugu. Fugu. Give me a break. Zachary Gilbrecht, Breck, 66. Robert Verber in Palmetto, Florida, home of the insect, 66. Nicholas Hanna, 66, in Indianapolis. These are all 60, I'm gonna read all these 66s. These are all Happy Birthday John donations, 66. Richard Riley in Loomis, California. Sir Danny Goad, love the name, Goad, 66.

2:17:17 Brian Burse, Burse or Burse B-U-R-S-E? Burse. Sir Eric V.M. Baronet of the Valley in Van Nuys. And he says happy birthday, dude. Lewis Pipkin in Tallahassee, Florida. Jonathan Ferris in Liberal, Kansas. Annie Lennon in Washington, D.C. Nicholas Robinson in Somerville, Massachusetts. Makarovitz, Makarovitz, Makarovitz, I'm thinking. Monica Lansing, Dame Monica, Dame in Drayton Valley, Alberta. Paul, plain old Paul in 66, this is out of nowhere. Naveed Khan, unknown. John Hall, Cynthia Hickson, Daniel Smith, Alex Vanderhengst,

2:18:13 Matthew of the stud is what that means who yeah, sir Matthew Janis, Uski in Chicago Gabe Shabazian in San Francisco over here. Hmm come to the meetup Phil Roe Doe Canacas Phil Rota Canacas Torben Peterson or Petterson Brian Klimczak Daphne Mitchell Sir Dirtbag Dave, Melissa Hodges, Arthur Gobitz, Rob Tyson, Brad Doherty, Hylko Santema, Hilton Houten, Woods,

2:19:04 Randy Holcomb, Sir Don Baron of New Hampshire, 66. Theodore Hart, Austin Wilson, Pedro Itriago, I think. By the way, Austin's in Sammamish. Mark burgess which is a rich little town a little while suburb mark burgess brian navarro james blair bart burt ends. He lives in best netherlands best best. Dominique Gobel in Calgary, Lance Forrest in Newport, North Carolina. We've got a lot of well-wishers. I want to thank you all for doing this. Your love, man. Nicholas Counts, and I'm sure he does. Nicholas Counts. Jan LeClerc, Sir Quijaboo. Quijaboo. I don't remember. Quijaboo. Quijaboo in Luxembourg, and that's Luxembourg. Jacob Honan.

2:20:03 or Jacob Christopher Grant Covington Louisiana Joseph Green Sir Ducifer Night of the Four Springs funk for kids and a time traveler that's our boy loves the show that's our boy here in Austin well there he is loves the show Rene Knig Knig in Eindhoven why do you pronounce that Knigge Knigge Knigge Knigge Alexander Mercuriyev, oh and that's the end of our group by the way with Eindhoven. Alexander Mercuriyev is 55-55 and he says happy birthday he doesn't care about the exact amount. Sir Kevin Wood in Manchester New Hampshire. He has donation towards his daughter Kayla Woods Dame Hood and add her to the birthday list yes she's on there.

2:20:57 Stephen Smith, Sir Tom Dari in DeForest, Wisconsin. Those are 5510, double nickels on the dime. Michael Gates, 5280. And the following people are $50 donors, name and location if available. Eric Olson, not available. Scott E. Knight in Los Wages, Nevada. Matthew Januszewski, once again in Chicago. Robert Clayson in London. Paul Van Cordelar. Cordelar. Cordelar in I'm outin. I'm outin. Bradley Lennon, Todd Morris, cracking myself up in Arlington, Virginia. But Stephen McConnell. Do you notice how many Dutch people are in the list today? Because the Dutch care about birthdays. They do. They're all sitting in a chair as we speak in a circle, listening to the show, drinking coffee. Hey, there it is.

2:21:54 Stephen McConnell in Cortland, Ohio. Sir Brett Farrell in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. We believe that's where it's from. And last but not least, Sir Alan Bean over here in Oakland, California. Hey, Alan. And I want to thank all these folks for contributing to this show 1022 and wishing me a happy birthday. Yeah, that was really nice. Putting the show over the top. Yeah, I love it when people love you. It gives me great pleasure because that means that there are more people who see me the way I see you. Whatever that means. We do have a lot of people who came in with my date, 4, 5, 18, and there's a slew of them too, and those don't get mentioned, but we do have a lot of happy birthday wishes amongst them. Very sweet. Thank you all very much, and remembering our value for value model, the deconstruction continues. We'll be back on Sunday with another episode, as we do twice a week here on the NO Agenda Show. Remember us at vorac.org.

2:22:46 Everybody can use some jobs karma jobs jobs jobs and jobs. Let's vote for job You've got karma and before we go on to our birthdays I do have a douchebag call out from Dame Elise Garling who has surfaced once again our our salmon fisher bait salmon and she also she do the Limonala Limoncello. Limoncello. Yes. She has contacted us. Did you did you get an email from her? Yep, same email. Okay. Oh good. So you want our address so that she can send off some new limoncello and It's good. Well, she's about to get back on the boat. She goes what a couple months she goes. I thought you had a douchebag call out. Oh, yes pebble mine There you go, you're right

2:23:38 How long is she out? She's out a couple months. She'll be gone. I have no idea. Okay, here we go. Besides my good podcast buddy John C. Dvorak, we also congratulate Christopher Genuso. Actually, Christopher congratulates his brother Jack. He turns 30 today. Devin N. Wright says happy birthday to his smoking hot girlfriend Tommy Lynn. She's a 50. baby as well. Kevin Johnson to his smoking hot wife Nikki. She turns 33 as John turns 66. Young LeClerc, Sir Quijaboo, 37th on the April 10th. Sir Kevin Woods, his happy birthday to his daughter Kayla in advance. She'll be celebrating on the 10th as well. Eric Olsen celebrated yesterday and Sir Don Barron of New Hampshire will be celebrating his birthday on the 7th, one year younger than you. Happy birthday everybody from your buddies here at the Best Podcast in the Universe.

2:24:36 Nice to see everyone. It's a ruckus show. I want to remind people if they didn't get in for my birthday thing, Sunday will still work. Oh, okay. That's very kind. Someone sent me a rundown, which I thought was quite cute, of the historical census questions. Since this has been such a big deal. I didn't get that, yeah. So things that are no longer on the census, this is true. In 1820, a few of the questions were, How many other free persons except Indians are in your household? How many slaves? How many persons not naturalized? You see where this is going.

2:25:19 Yeah, of course. It gets better from here. In 1830, how many deaf and dumb whites under age 14, over 14, and under 25 or over 25? How many blind whites? How many deaf and dumb slaves and free blacks under age 14, over 14, 25, and 25? How many blind slaves and free blacks? How many white foreigners not naturalized? I mean, this has been a pretty consistent thing. 1840 how many idiotic or insane whites? And they were they also to be fair they weren't racist how many idiotic or insane slaves and free blacks And then can the person read and write is the person deaf dumb blind insane idiotic a pauper or a convict?

2:26:12 Wow a copper I like popper poppers a good word, and that's the same the same question there. We've moved to 1870 Whether or not parents are of foreign birth, can the person read and write, is the person deaf, dumb, blind, insane or idiotic? That seems to be a kind of a trend. Whether or not a person was sick or temporarily disabled, this is 1880, and the nature of the illness, kind of invasive. And then whether the person was blind, deaf, dumb, idiotic, insane, maimed, crippled, bedridden or permanently disabled? What did they need to know all that for? Demographics. 1890s psychographics, John. Whether a suffering from acute or chronic disease with the name of disease and length of time afflicted, whether defective in mind, sight, hearing, or speech, or whether crippled, maimed, or deformed, and whether prisoner, convict, homeless child, or pauper. And then finally I have 1900.

2:27:08 Place of birth, place of birth of father, place of birth of mother, attended school, can read, can write, can speak English. Changed rather dramatically. 1900. What happened? Teddy Roosevelt. So he must have changed it. Not sure. I'd have to look. There's something obviously changed. That's kind of interesting. I try. Well, while we're on the LGBT topic, Something new happening in Columbus, Ohio at now All people are equal men women Straight gay lesbian or I should say lesbian gay. I can't even like LGBTQ QI AP we're all equal and Love is love relationships relationships, correct? If you say so no, this is what I've been taught. Oh, okay This is not what you've been taught by Gen Z in the Millennials. I

2:28:10 That everybody's the same? Yeah, and all relationships are the same and everyone's the same. It's all equal. Love is love. I'm not a believer. I don't think so. Love is love. Just say it. Love is love. That may be true, but that's got nothing to do with it. Love is love. What's love got to do with it? There you go. There's a new program aimed at helping the LGBT community in Columbus, Ohio. It turns out domestic violence is quite different by their own admission. I just get out of my mind. I go crazy and I just get uncontrollable. The lack of control leads to violence for this man who doesn't want his face shown. Violence toward his husband. He's been charged several times. Within a year, I feel I had

2:29:14 All domestic violence, one more and he's headed to prison. That's what's over my head right now and that's not something to play around with. So this offender got serious after his last charge and is following through with his probation, counseling for alcohol and counseling for the domestic violence. The first person in a new court-designed program. Statistically it's been found that jail does not decrease recidivism, it increases it. I don't want to have to put people in jail. I know that putting someone in jail isn't helping them with any underlying issues. Judges James O'Grady and Eileen Paley have worked for almost three years with several agencies to develop a domestic violence program geared entirely toward LGBTQ offenders. I was stunned when I found out that there was no... Stunned?

2:29:59 wasn't anywhere else in the country. I think it's the secret that people don't like to talk about. Miles Stickle is the director of behavioral health for Equitas. He was tasked with coming up with this program that has never existed, explaining the dynamic of same-gender couples is much different than heterosexuals. Mostly it's the males hitting the females and This one, this case, it's you have two males. There's other things that create power and control differences in our relationships. Miles started with an evidence-based model for treatment, then incorporated needs specific to the LGBTQ community. Everyone will first go into an eight-week psychoeducational group.

2:30:37 where we'll lay out the foundation of like what is violence in a relationship, how to have healthy effective relationships, thought disorders that lead to violence. That will be followed by 32 weeks of group therapy tailored to specific problems. That's ultimately all I want is just people to get help and not have to come back and see me. I hope I can make everyone proud. In downtown Columbus, Shelby Croft, 10TV News. The judges hope the need for this program will be recognized and modeled nationally. They also hope it paves the way for more culturally specific programs. This doesn't sound right. Culturally specific programs. Exactly.

2:31:16 Because you're called kicker. Yeah, and and so what you know, it's normal for black men to beat up their women or Muslims. Oh, yeah Muslims. Yeah. Yeah Muslims. That's what they're supposed to do. No, that's what the women agree to they agree do that when they marry a Muslim. Yeah culturally specific so different rules. That's what that's what I'm here in different rules. Yeah, there's no different rules is nonsense and the just staying with the universities George Washington University had a I think it's actually going on now diversity workshop and they have a number of programs and the one for today is titled Christian Privilege. But our founding fathers were all Christian, right? That's the subtitle of the of the workshop. Because Christian privilege is a thing now. It wasn't enough going after white old dudes who are straight and cisgendered. Actually they have more workshops. Let's see they have... What do they teach in these workshops?

2:32:16 Well, that you have to recognize your privilege. Heterosexual privilege, cisgender privilege, able-bodied- Heterosexual privilege? Yes, oh yes, that you are privileged. You are privileged. Able-bodied privilege, socioeconomic privilege- You changed the word privilege to burden. Unconscious bias- There's no heterosexual burden. The white man's burden. You've heard of that. Yes. Well, I think we should reintroduce it. Good luck with that. Start making your signs for the march. It's pretty bad. Yeah, it's pretty bad. I got a little deconstruction for you. Not that we didn't really know this, but I think it's fun to do. The whole world saw the Sinclair Broadcast Group propagandizing the message. Everyone had to say the same thing, the same message. Yeah, we did a bit on it.

2:33:21 and I so I pulled one of Conan O'Brien's examples of this from 20 this thing is 2014 2015 yeah he used to do this constantly used to do this a lot yeah he would he would get the same message they had some specialists that that worked in this in his comedy writing team that could do this that's what it came yes so just so you know And this is not new, and I can tell a lot of people who are tweeting and who are emailing, they're shocked. Of course, we're so jaded, I have to be honest, after doing this show for a decade, that we forget to remind people this has been going on for a long time. In fact, if the M5M does anything, they don't go back even once.

2:32:16 Well, that you have to recognize your privilege. Heterosexual privilege, cisgender privilege, able-bodied- Heterosexual privilege? Yes, oh yes, that you are privileged. You are privileged. Able-bodied privilege, socioeconomic privilege- You changed the word privilege to burden. Unconscious bias- There's no heterosexual burden. The white man's burden. You've heard of that. Yes. Well, I think we should reintroduce it. Good luck with that. Start making your signs for the march. It's pretty bad. Yeah, it's pretty bad. I got a little deconstruction for you. Not that we didn't really know this, but I think it's fun to do. The whole world saw the Sinclair Broadcast Group propagandizing the message. Everyone had to say the same thing, the same message. Yeah, we did a bit on it.

2:33:21 and I so I pulled one of Conan O'Brien's examples of this from 20 this thing is 2014 2015 yeah he used to do this constantly used to do this a lot yeah he would he would get the same message they had some specialists that that worked in this in his comedy writing team that could do this that's what it came yes so just so you know And this is not new, and I can tell a lot of people who are tweeting and who are emailing, they're shocked. Of course, we're so jaded, I have to be honest, after doing this show for a decade, that we forget to remind people this has been going on for a long time. In fact, if the M5M does anything, they don't go back even once.

2:34:04 Even to Michael Moore when he was all for investigating SSRIs. This is all the stuff, this is the gems. This is what we dig up. And it's not even digging up, I mean, just had to go back in some archive and find it. Here he is. A lot of people think the big news stories today are the snowstorm that's hitting the Midwest or the looming federal budget cuts. But judging by local news, there's apparently an even bigger story that's sweeping the nation right now. Check it out. Well if you filled up your gas tank lately, then you don't need us to tell you that gas prices are back on the rise. You don't need us to tell you that gas prices are back on the rise. You don't need us to tell you that gas prices are back on the rise. You don't need us to tell you that gas prices are back on the rise. You don't need us to tell you that gas prices are back on the rise. You don't need us to tell you that gas prices are back on the rise. You don't need us to tell you that gas prices are...

2:34:56 back on the rise. You don't need us to tell you that gas prices are back on the rise. You don't need us to tell you gas prices are back on the rise. You don't need us to tell you that gas prices are back on the rise. You don't need us to tell you that gas prices are back on the rise. You don't need us to tell you gas prices are back on the rise. You don't need us to tell you that gas prices are back on the rise. You don't need us to tell you gas prices are on the rise. I know. Now where this comes from, just a point of reference, and this is in the show notes, find it at nashownotes.com, is one of the many sources, but this is one of the big ones for these local stations, is something called CNN News Source.

2:35:37 And you can see, there's all kinds of screenshots, I guess if you register and if you pay for it then you can actually see the whole interface and they have all these packages, they have the intro text, everything's written, it can actually flow straight from this app into your teleprompter. This is how it really happens. And it's CNN, mind you, it's a much bigger part of their business than people realize. And it leads me to believe that one of these outfits wrote the response talking points to the infamous Sinclair video as witnessed in this montage. Which we all disdain depending on what our description is of them. The concern I think... There's a concern... The concerns resurface... Is that concerning to you?

2:36:26 Isn't that concerning? Nicole, I share that concern greatly. Mayor, should we be concerned? Should be a little bit concerning, particularly when it echoes... It's not journalism, it's propaganda. To run a propaganda clip. This isn't journalism, this is propaganda. Shoving propaganda down local anchors' throats. Scripted propaganda and accusations. Propaganda has to stop. That's a good one. Is it propaganda? Is it meta-propaganda? Or are we actually the propaganda? That's the question you need to ask. This whole thing is ludicrous.

2:37:05 I was watching NBC, they had Martin Luther King's 50th anniversary of him getting gunned down at this motel. Which has been turned into a museum so all the anchors, all the networks had to go. Everyone was there. They're all there but the problem was that there's people in the background and the worst case example is NBC. So you have Lester Holt With his he's got a headset on he's got a country man. He's wearing and he's standing there trying to trying to do his report But there's all this noise and racket because they set up shop behind him with a speaker And they're making a bunch of noise I have two examples Like that by the end of his broadcast by the way is quite annoying but I have the two background mess clips but play clip one and you'll hear what I'm talking about blaster

2:37:59 All right, Miguel Almaguer tonight. Thank you. Now to another big story we're following. New details about the woman who went on a shooting rampage at YouTube's headquarters. Investigators now say she was a YouTube user who harbored a grudge against the company. And tonight, new questions about possible missed warnings with police revealing they encountered the shooter just hours That's pretty annoying. So you heard this stuff going, so then apparently I think it was Maxine Waters. She was on stage? That's what it sounds like. Somebody's screeching in the background. This is later in the show, this is 10 seconds and you can hear somebody screeching in the background while this guy's trying to read the news. The White House. China is firing back at a potentially escalating trade war with the White House and caught in the middle could be a lot of American businesses.

2:38:51 It was hard to let me just let me just rotate zoom the White House rotate potentially escalating trade war Yes, yes, it's there there. We got it through forensics anyway I thought this was so amateurish to have this it was distracting to the viewer. Yeah, it's bad It was also on ABC CBS. I didn't read did check that news feed But you know that we would guys have got to get a better setup or something wouldn't stand for that at all Well, I didn't stand for it. I made a couple of clips. You did some work on it. Hell yeah. Hmm. Let me see. What else did we have that was important? Oh, yeah. Did you see the Google AI and search chief step down? Why do you what was the reason? I don't think a reason was given. Hmm. Google doesn't have to give any reasons they can do whatever they want. Yeah, they don't care. Let me see if it says is leaving his post.

2:39:52 Hmm. No, I think he's the guy from Google brain is now taking over. No, just Dean Do you know him Jeff Dean? No, I don't know anybody at Google anymore Did you know anybody? Yeah, sure gay what you know, why can't we investigate Eric Schmidt? Why can't we investigate Sergei and Brin for you know collusion? Illusion Russians. Yeah, I mean they're Russians. It's just a thought. Okay. I got two clips I want to play before we're done One is just a clip I want to get rid of it's been sitting and been going on this is Chelsea Manning this is a little known story when Chelsea Manning released all those documents people don't realize that WikiLeaks was not the place you wanted to go with them And this is a clip that kind of explains it interesting how the real news media who hate WikiLeaks They wouldn't even take this these documents that said I think

2:40:48 you know, this couldn't have happened any other way. It happened because of who I am and the values that I have and the time that I had and the means, the technology that was available. And also, it almost didn't happen, you know? I tried to reach out through conventional journos, if you will, and, you know, the technical complexities, they just couldn't work around. Well wait for one second, could you explain exactly what you did for people aren't familiar with your course when you were in Iraq you got a hold of these documents you saw what you described as the horror documented in the government's own pages and wanting to get it out coming back to the United States it wasn't WikiLeaks you went to first. Right of course not I mean of course not they

2:41:40 They weren't a thing yet. They weren't a name. I ran out of time. I didn't have a whole lot of time. I had about 12 days, and three of those days were taken up by a snowstorm. Before you were going back to Iraq? Correct. So you turned to The New York Times. You tried to reach out to them. Well, I reached out to The Washington Post first. And they didn't want the documents, or they did? I mean, it's technology. Technology is the problem. You know, SecureDrop is something that came out of all of this. It's now possible to reach out to The Washington Post and use these tools. Journalists didn't really have an understanding as to the technical problems. Why you couldn't just send it to them by regular email? Exactly. Why Washington Post did you go to? All the President's men.

2:42:38 exposing Watergate. That was my reference, was a movie. Jeez, that's a pretty good clip. So she saw the movie The President's Men and figured The Washington Post was the way to go. Yeah. Okay, well it also shows she was very very sincere about getting this information out But there was a whole thing it wasn't as like some like gay chat room and some other stuff was involved with this There was something else going. Yeah, well she was He at the time was bragging about doing it and somebody busted him I mean he would have never gotten caught if he wasn't saying something about it. Yeah classic yeah, and Of course that person who busted him is now dead

2:43:22 Who was that? I don't remember his name, but he died about three weeks ago. Oh, geez. I thought that was rather weird. Delta's been hacked. You might as well hit that. Oh, hold on a second. And I have two clips for the end here. I didn't know this. I actually travel with Delta. We're following some breaking news. We've just learned of a new cyber attack, this time targeting Delta Airlines. Delta says customers' payment information may have been breached last fall via a San Jose-based chat services provider. The airline says only a small subset of customers were affected and payment information was exposed for about three weeks. Now in a statement, Delta added, it cannot say definitively if any customer's information was actually accessed and it will launch a dedicated website, delta.com response, which will address questions and concerns. Go check it out.

2:44:18 Book a flight. Yeah, Tina has a... a life lock. And she gets regular emails. It's very regular. She says, oh look, this was compromised, this was compromised. I need to write them down when she tells me. It's a lot more than we, than you know, than propagates through the news channels. Oh yeah, you should definitely bring that into the show. And she's always saying, hey, you know, I can put you on, you know, but get a discount, I got a coupon code. Like, and here's my stance, like no, because what's gonna happen is those guys are gonna get hacked. Oh yeah, I don't want all my information in one place anymore. It's just it's not it's not helpful. It's not. It's like the single point of failure password deal. Yes, yes, one of those. I would be remiss if I did not give you an update on the Awan brothers. These were the Pakistanis who were mucking around in the in Democratic, Congressional Democratic computers for

2:45:14 years if not years removing servers doing all kinds of shenanigans hired by Debbie Wasserman Schultz and this thing has been you know been covered they keep trying to cover it up as much as they can and it just keeps pot rearing its ugly head we now know nearly 50 Democrats waived background checks for Pakistani IT aides accused of hacking that includes former DC chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Inspector General's report finding 44 Democrats chose to not to vet Imran Awan and several of his family members by using a loophole in the house security policy. Awan, who worked for Schultz, was arrested for bank fraud waiting for a flight to Pakistan last year. Any collusion? It's unbelievable. This is getting no play.

2:45:59 Well, the mainstream media is not interested in these really good stories. Because it doesn't involve Trump. You know, Fox doesn't consider themselves mainstream media. Which is a joke. But the original Money Honey over there on Fox Business News, Maria Bartiromo had Donna Brazile on and asked her about the Oan Brothers. Donna, let me ask you before you go. You wrote the book Hacked. Do you believe that the hacking... And by the way, Maria has no idea what she's talking about. She's confusing everything. ...into the DNC had anything to do with those Alwan brothers, the IT guys who the Democrats blew off their background checks and of course are under investigation today.

2:46:43 Well, you know the the house Investigation I haven't read the full report, but you know I believe everyone should be vetted No, I don't believe those individuals had anything to do with the hacking of the Democratic National Committee I would hope that before a director Muller finishes investigation we get to the bottom of it We know that there was Russian interference in our election system I want to figure out who committed this crime and they should be brought to just know all the Iwan brothers just to be clear as a separate story from the Russia from the Russia probe But you were there at the DNC. Did you work with Mr. Awan? No, ma'am. They worked, I believe, in the House of Representatives. I haven't worked on the Hill since 1999, so 2000 when I left. So no, I don't know anything about that series of what I call

2:47:30 In many ways it was a management failure. It was bad. We should vet everybody, not just Democratic staffers. Every staffer who works for the House of Representatives or the United States Senate, anybody, should be vetted. Yeah, I mean you would think so. Don, it's always a pleasure to see you. Thanks so much. So much for your Fox Business News vapid, empty nothingness story of the century as far as I'm concerned. It's a great story. It could be ISI could be all kinds of spy stuff going on. I'm completely overlooked. All right Anything we need to be looking at for for this evening's entertainment? I don't think so. I think so either going on the NCAA tournaments over the right basketball seasons wrapping up you got You got anyone coming over for your birthday to sit in a circle. I

2:48:25 We got the chairs, we're gonna put the circle there and they're gonna sit there and drink coffee and stare at each other. Great. I can't wait to see how Theodorable does in the circle. Get him in Young, John. Teach him while they're young. We'll be back on Sunday with another deconstruction of your media here on the NO Agenda Show. Remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA and I am coming to you from downtown Austin, Texas. This is the capital of the drone star state, FEMA Region 6 and all the governmental maps in the 5x9 Cluedio in the Common Law condo. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where we're having a storm approaching. It's going to be a real gully washer and I believe this will just head to

2:49:11 Head back east and give you guys nothing but grief. I'm John C. Dvorak. Until Sunday, as always, happy birthday, John, and adios, mofos! Give me a cab. Taxi! Point is repeated. Point is repeated. Point is repeated. Too many times in a story. I... Noob. She's a hammer! John, I've no agenda. Burn Adam together. Our birthday show comes along. Here is your song. Get you some karma. On two spots we gon' just stop. Cause we really love you. Stop.

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