Episode 1019 · Sunday, 25 March 2018

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A grueling Tesla road trip exposes the reality of electric vehicle range anxiety while the media machine pivots from Russian collusion to Facebook data privacy.

By The No Agenda Show | 2h 57m listen | 36 chapters
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The No Agenda Show · No. 1019

About this episode

A weekend test drive of the Tesla Model S reveals a massive gap between advertised specs and real-world utility, as the vehicle achieved only 180 miles of range against a 350-mile claim. The journey from Austin to Bryan-College Station exposed significant infrastructure hurdles, including a proprietary charging ecosystem that prioritizes data harvesting over user convenience. This technical failure serves as a backdrop for a broader critique of the electric vehicle industry’s move toward centralized control and operator complacency.

The March for Our Lives protest in Washington, D.C., is analyzed as a highly produced media event featuring scripted rhetoric from student activists like David Hogg. While the Broward County Sheriff’s Office faces scrutiny for under-reporting crimes to manipulate performance metrics, the national narrative shifts toward the #DeleteFacebook movement following the Cambridge Analytica scandal. Whistleblower Christopher Wylie’s claims are contrasted with the Obama 2012 campaign’s own extensive use of Facebook data ingestion, suggesting a media double standard regarding political data mining. Meanwhile, President Trump signed a $1.3 trillion omnibus bill containing the Cloud Act, which significantly expands the Five Eyes surveillance network's reach into global data storage.

Roseanne Barr challenges Jimmy Kimmel on political polarization, while a Pennsylvania school district makes headlines for arming students with buckets of river stones for defense. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak break down the "Value-for-Value" model during a slowdown in donations caused by East Coast storms. The episode concludes with a look at the Count Dankula Nazi pug conviction and the sudden shutdown of Craigslist personals following new anti-trafficking legislation.


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CHAPTER 01 / 36 Discussion

Tesla Model S Performance, Range, and Charging Experience

A detailed account of a weekend test drive of a Tesla Model S reveals significant discrepancies between advertised specs and real-world performance. The vehicle, driven from Austin to Bryan-College Station, Texas, achieved approximately 180 miles of range despite claims of 350 miles. The experience was characterized by "white-knuckle" range anxiety, noisy low-profile tires, and a frustrating charging process at Texas A&M University that required specific membership apps rather than standard credit cards.

tesla model s· elon musk· electric vehicles· range anxiety· college station· charging stations· autosteer

00:00 Nowadays, arrest them. White-knuckling through the battery car experience and broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state here in downtown Austin, Tejas. In The Cluedio! In The Morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley where i'm feeling my oats and they're making a mess all over my hands I'm John C Dvorak It's Crackpot & Buzzkill In The Mornin' Uh... What? What?! What about your oats messing up your hand

00:43 I was feeling my oats, and had a handful. Oh! Is Mimi writing for you again? No. Okay. My materials is far superior Well we almost didn't have a show John What happened? Bah...I uh Did you get protested by the kids? Nah nah nah no no I had a full on overnight point of no return test drive in a battery car It crapped out? No, no it didn't crap out but The former New York banker, he needed to go to Galveston and I've always said hey you know anytime you need my truck take the truck leave the Tesla with me. So we call he calls me up says I gotta take my kid to Galveston then the Tesla can't make it so well this weekend I happen be going to Bryan College Station

01:35 Which is 110 miles from Austin? Oh yeah, no problem. You can go round trip on the Tesla No! No sir. I mean...no. No, no, no The Tesla will do really real road performance about 180 miles No, no that's not true. Yeah okay I just did this! I'm just telling you I've seen the specs. Yes I've heard what Elon said. Oh Elon! Specshmek Who am i supposed to believe? You or Elon? Do you mind if I just run through my experience so we can have a final on the battery car known as Tesla Go

02:17 So he's all worried. He's like, oh you won't make it so now I'm staying overnight don't worry about it find a place second He owns the car yes And he says you won't make it when it's a known fact they do 350 miles 350 miles which Tesla is that I'd buy all of them. No, I don't know which one he has the S90? I don't know which model... I think that's the hot rod it's a hot rod oh it's a hot rod we already discussed this so I've driven this before but never done an overnight and then he was like well you know you get to charge it and it takes you know eight hours dude don't tell me anything at this would be great for the show or we won't have a show so let me try it out

03:02 He says okay, that's funny do that. Okay great So I get in the car and I'd driven it before but i'm sitting there And he drives off from the truck like shit. I forgot how to start this thing That's how stupid It was like oh you don't have to start it if you just got to put into drive I couldn't I was looking for a button You know Like my truck has a button you press the button the car starts so that's how disoriented I was But anyway I remember how it works. I start driving and he left me with about, it said 200 miles on the... on the range, the range meter. So I started driving now this is a multiple roads it's 290 71 21 so there's you know the roads aren't really great highways all the way and some surface issues which man you drive in a Tesla on a poorly surfaced road it's noisy its very noisy

03:58 And I'd also forgot, yeah. Oh yeah, I think the tires or something it's low profile tires. Low profile tires are the worst. Very very noisy and i've forgotten that you actually have to keep your hand on the steering wheel when you do the auto steer And it says after, oh put your hands on the wheel. Like okay and I kept forgetting this because it's just plugging along 65 miles an hour. It's steering itself like ah love this thing. Can't you get some clip-on hands? Well I'll tell you a couple of things You don't want that because these roads, you know sometimes there's a little construction it splits off at least twice I had to really grab the wheel and disengage because it would have taken me off into the Into the side of the of the range of the drink. Yes It's not hazard style. It's not that great If you really don't you really don't want to take but I did keep my hands off three times and then it goes bing-bing

04:55 Uh, AutoSteer no longer available for this trip you stupid slave. He get put in jail! You get put in the auto steering jail. And you have to pull over, you gotta put it in park and then... ...then you can use the auto steer again But I'm telling you John No one should rely on this auto steer Unless your on a proper highway with at least three lanes You really don't want to do this! I am telling you two times Really I would've gone off... yeah Dukes of Hazzard style Anyway so I get there Remember I started out with 100 and well little under 200 I get there, and I've got four... no, I have 35 miles left. It's a 110-mile trip so already the battery thing is like your phone you know it tells you got a couple hours but then when you get right down to it you really don't yeah you got 15 minutes yeah and um I had to find a charger in just a hotel well you already met one

05:55 But you had already mapped it out, so this was not a problem. No I had downloaded... You got to get a million apps! You gotta get Charge Station and you gotta get EVgo. You have to understand what the different charging options are level 1 level 2 and then the big honker which is the supercharger which pretty much only exists at Tesla stores i think? Yeah I'm out here in California. Yeah sure in California but not in Texas So I'm like, now luckily this is Aggieland. This is Texas A&M so they got a big campus and sure enough there's a whole bunch of Chargers but they're all three miles away because it's you know... It's College Station everything's three miles away. So I'm driving around and yeah You ever been on campus in the weekend? And all the gates are up and down that thing's like a penitentiary Texas A&M is a fucking jail

06:48 Everything is a gate this cameras looking at your license plate scanning you before you can go in I feel I finally find the garage after trying to pull into one that had a charging station but was only for students and now i'm down like 15 miles you know it's... So you're getting white knuckle? I'm getting low battery warnings. We're going to shut- This is great because this is the worst part of it, I've tested all these electric cars and the white knuckle thing is the worst! Yeah well and I'm like You know you can't go get a can of gas So and it's giving me these warnings, and you know which flash on and off they go away before You can really read them properly as we're gonna shut down stuff like what are you gonna? Shut down. Yeah, it shut down the heated seat shuts down the air conditioning is getting a little okay finally I'm in the garage there It is the charger And now I really start to realize what all of this entails because you have to have you bet to be a member Of The Charger Network

07:45 So it says hold your card. I don't have a card, i just want to charge! I need some power and this is a level 2 so there's really no more than 220 volts and you know you jam that in and it'll take...I think it gives you 18 miles per hour that you sit there charging. Let me get this straight instead of accepting a normal credit card or American Express It requires you actually be a member. Yes, oh wait let me guess why because it serves alcohol? I think it would be for tracking purposes You really don't feel very free in this ecosystem

08:23 So now luckily, well you can download their app and we know what that means they get all your information And then you can sign up with your credit card with your name. So now they have everything on me I can't just anonymously tap up or tank up or top-up? I have to tell them who I am then you can use your phone as the you know, the near the NFC near field communication click okay and then you can finally start and you put it in and You know, I walked away and of course I had to drop a pin tell Tina where it was so she'd come and pick me up in her car. Her gas car? Her gas car! Her gas guzzler! Her horrible climate change causing vehicle...

09:09 So, you know I and like how do i know that you know it's still charging? Yeah what happens if the craps out in the middle of the charge decides to stop. Well... The app doesn't say oh well wait wait wait! You're a member of the club and you've got this app and all so if that happens your are immediately alerted Possibly. Look, so I got enough charge we still had to leave last night at 10 o'clock it's a good two-hour drive certainly at night So it really only charged for six hours when we left I had 155 miles to go I got in on like a Penn Light battery charge pretty much into the garage that are placed in downtown Austin

09:53 But you know this car and also after two hours of driving, you don't want to drive this more than it can do. You're tired It's a sports car! It's rough. It's not a smooth ride This product I can't speak for all electric vehicles, but this product the Tesla has got to be one of the stupidest things ever invented and people who buy one are either virtue signaling have too much money or both. It's a it's stupid stupid for in the city. This is not the same report you gave us the last time I don't even know it's not, You're right maybe its because the cars been on the road for a couple of years and I don't know maybe they did an upgrade maybe it was you know the sophomore experience like now this really was not great product in my mind its not great its not good. I would like somebody to find the old clip

CHAPTER 02 / 36 Discussion

Tesla AutoSteer Safety, Pilot Complacency, and Long-Term Reviews

The safety of Tesla's AutoSteer feature is questioned following near-accidents during a road trip where the system almost veered off the road. The technology is compared to ballistic parachutes on Cirrus aircraft, suggesting it creates dangerous complacency in operators. This shift in perspective highlights the necessity of long-term product testing over initial "glowing" reviews to uncover fundamental flaws in high-tech products.

autosteer· autonomous driving· safety· cirrus aircraft· product reviews· consumer reports

10:52 Then I'm going on and on about the greatest thing ever, and how the hands-free is fantastic or whatever it was a driver auto drive Yeah None of these complaints none zip. I'm very wary of this autosteer now then any on of course I I already was a little wary you know we've seen what happened We see people with autonomous cars getting killed as all kinds of Tesla's chopped off their heads chopped off kinds of horrible Tesla stories And it's just not, you know... I think it should be for boatin'. You shouldn't have this auto-steer. You are it's almost like I don't like ballistic parachutes on private planes either on the like the Cirrus It makes you complacent a lot of pilots. So yeah, this is don't you? Don't want that you know when people do all I can probably make it on the fuel I got if I don't just pull the chute This happens and with this auto so there's autosteer people like ah, you know, it's okay. It's all good. It's not it's to me It's really very dangerous

11:53 And after having almost careened off the road twice, I can attest it's not great. That's why they make you put your hands on the wheel but come on! You keep your fingertips on and if it's too light then you just add another hand so that you don't get caught in a puddle of seawater. Well, you have made one of my long-term points which I've been arguing forever which is that single judgmental reviews really don't cut it. You need long-term, multiple reviews to get to the crux of whether a product's any good or not.

12:41 And I've always said this, which is one of the reasons always kind of when I review a product which I don't do that much anymore. But when I was doing it, I always demand long term ownership pretty much of the product so I can see if it's any good long-term. You mean that's how you get free shit? Well, you get free shit, you do! I need some long term ownership of a demo. But... but....I come away with an actual... I actually can report on what it's like to own something. Because it's much more important, not as though I'm not doing that. Most of the times, a lot of the times, I won't write up a product because it's such a piece of crap and turns out this free, getting free crap is what it amounts too. It's kind of a corrupt favor to the company but you know,

CHAPTER 03 / 36 Discussion

Electric Vehicle Infrastructure, Privacy, and Charging Costs

The economics and privacy implications of electric vehicle charging networks like ChargePoint are examined. Users are often forced to share personal data through apps to access power, and charging costs in cities like Austin can reach $16 per day, rivaling traditional car lease payments. While the Chevy Volt is noted as a more practical alternative due to its backup motor, the overall EV ecosystem is criticized for its lack of anonymity and potential for centralized control.

chargepoint· austin energy· data privacy· ev infrastructure· chevy volt· electricity costs

13:28 Generally speaking, you can't really see if something's good unless you've played with it more than one quick go-round. That's why... Which is— You just proved it because your first review was glowing! It's why it took me 20 years to figure out that the Mac is shit. I needed to have that long term ownership but now here's the thing about a couple of things so in my building as well as any of these charge what does it called? Let me get the right name for this app It's tracking you now. Well, hold on it's a charge point charge point so couple things which point so the charge point I think the way they do it is The cost because there's a cost that's why your credit card isn't necessary The cost is determined by the provider of electricity Which leads me to believe that the chargepoint Jamoaks put the thing in for free and they take a piece of the action

14:23 and maybe on weekends, because it'll say right there on the charging station. It will say this is free as determined by Texas A&M I'm like oh that's great well of course i still had to pay $15 for sitting in the parking garage all day when I get back to my place here I jack-in it's the same charge point so now like oh this is good this is fast put it in and it's two dollars an hour and that's determined by Austin Energy Now if you have a Tesla, okay first of all you got money but you have to come home every day and charge for 8 hours $16.00 a day take that on a monthly basis You got another car! You gotta lease payment This is not free this is not cheap this is not great

15:13 Well, when you come if you have your own if you come home and you actually have a house. Okay? Yes, plug it into your power of your there's a lot of Tesla's in our garage and they're hogging the power stations bet so I'm here I'm just gonna this is aside because not really has anything to do with the expense So I'm testing all these electric cars and the one like and I will say the only one I would buy Would be the that. I tested was it would be this Chevy Volt And which has a very short range, and then their little motor goes on and so you drive around with that It's got enough poop to get you from here to there Yeah But but you already you already said the main the main problem just gonna refer second for me is

16:00 At any point, a number of companies know where I am. Know what i'm doing. Oh yeah that's not good And oh by the way why don't we you know Currys got his car charging there? Fuck that guy let's turn it off no charge for you then what are you gonna do if you want to charge this thing on regular current You're going to get about three kilowatts an hour so you're talking you know eight miles per hour charge Well let me go back to my point was which was You have to stick the charger on every single night routinely. It's like a robot. Like your phone!

16:42 You can't, yeah I don't, you're talking to somebody who keeps his phone on a charger in the house and then maybe takes it off the charger once every couple of days. I don't use the phone that much. Right but if you go on a trip, you're like oh I gotta stop here, I gotta charge on the plane, I gotta charge at the airport, I gotta do a quick charge in the Uber and managing it. And then right your managing it and then if these things actually become super popular for some reason. All these charging stations would be full, there'd be a line and you have to wait for the one guy to finish! Yeah that's already happening I can see that in the garage i had to go through a couple floors before i found one was open Wow yeah That's not good No

CHAPTER 04 / 36 Discussion

Tesla Design, Regenerative Braking, and Manufacturing Quality

The physical design and driving mechanics of Tesla vehicles are critiqued, specifically the aggressive regenerative braking that activates brake lights when the accelerator is released. While the Model S design by Henrik Fisker is praised, newer models are described as having "pucker lips" due to the removal of front grills. Concerns are raised regarding the long-term durability of the "glued together" manufacturing process as the vehicles age.

henrik fisker· regenerative braking· vehicle design· manufacturing· elon musk· build quality

17:27 The whole thing is dumb. The whole idea is dumb, it's... and also the way it drives I don't know if I mentioned this last time or forgot about it because you drive you take your foot off the gas in a normal car coasts This goes brrrr! It even flips on the brake lights It's very, it's a whole different driving style. You have to keep your foot down... Really? Because that's not good because what about if you put on cruise control does that stop that? If you take cruise control off and you don't have your foot on the accelerator the brake lights come on and you start to slow down rapidly. Oh well that means you have to have your foot pushing on the gas all time is very hard on the leg I mean this gives you can give you a cramp easily yeah

18:11 So what a dumb product. And you know, and Tina who loves this car she said it looks so beautiful I love how it looks. Well the first yeah that's...I should always mention the reason that S look so good because the little one didn't and then other ones that stupid hunchback one doesn't look very good but that S was designed by Fisker yes the superstar designer he knows what is going And then after Musk, I think insulted him in public by saying that the Fisker car was a piece of crap. Fisker, I don't think has anything to do with the designs anymore so now they're starting to look really weird there's their kind of derivative of the original design but even right away they took the fake grill off and make it looks like it's got puckered lips!

19:03 It's non-trivial to make these cars look good. So she loves how, she always loved how that car looks and then when I said okay darling after you go to know your workout I'll drop you a pin You got to pick me up so what are talking about? Well, I'm gonna charge I'm sitting on the charge and says what is this? Said What did you think? She thought it was like 30 minutes you're done! What?! She thought that!? Well at select locations Have you got the supercharger that jerks a bunch of electricity in it? Anyway, that's my report. We don't ever need to hear this I'm happy. I'm happy. I finally understand how stupid this it's really an unnecessary Unhandy nonsense on handy unhandy. It's a nonsense product Yeah voice well

19:59 I mean he does get, although i have to say that it still was of the impression that could get 350 miles. Yeah no And im disappointed to hear thats getting 180 miles because you can almost get that with a leaf Even so, the charging thing is too much its just too much It makes no sense It really doesn't. Well, what about this? Here's the alternative that I always thought was a good idea because apparently in Israel they have electric cars in some city center or with some city services and they use this technology and it has been done by other...it is stupid looking boxy thing but you drive-in an entire battery pack is dropped out at the bottom and then new one is put in fully charged and then go on. Yeah sure okay

20:56 You know, whenever I go to McDonald's their milkshake maker is always broken. It's McDonalds! It's a multi-billion dollar corporation if not you know how many half a trillion dollars and then their milkshakes are always broken so if I'm gonna rely on someone have something that's going to put the new battery in it's just no...no And again they know who you are they know what you're doing great place to take somebody out we know he's got his stop and charge sometime Somebody out. Yeah, it's gonna clip some guy cuz he follow around in the car He's gonna charge she'll be stationary for the next 10 hours Plenty of time to get over there All right well that's a good report no I'm glad you liked it I know that very enjoyable She've done a lot of investigative work on the electric vehicles But you should try it you should try this Tesla

21:57 You should. But take it on a long trip, it's tiring. I'll tell you what the problem is with the Tesla is... It's glued together! Okay well like I couldn't notice any of that work Well no but I wonder what they're like in 10 years when that glue oxidizes and just starts falling apart? I mean will the whole top of the car just go flying off in a windstorm?! I don't think its meant to hold onto for a long time He's getting rid of it he hates it now. He's the one that starting to hate it Maybe that's why he was so weird. Oh, he just transferred his hate to you and then you became hypercritical! It's okay... Like I'm putting a lot of miles on your truck! Go for it girl whatever that's fine i do like the whole entertainment system You know you got a web browser in there So when you're bored you can surf around and do stuff but jeez

CHAPTER 05 / 36 Discussion

March for Our Lives, Media Propaganda, and Student Activism

The March for Our Lives protest in Washington, D.C., following the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting, is analyzed as a highly effective media propaganda event. While the students' demands for "common sense" gun laws—such as raising the purchase age to 21 and banning bump stocks—are noted, the event is characterized as a "meme fest" of scripted one-liners. The involvement of politicians like Amy Klobuchar as CNN co-hosts is cited as evidence of the political exploitation of grieving youth.

march for our lives· parkland· florida· jeff pegues· gun control· nra· cnn

22:52 Well, they can put that in any car. Yeah there was some other stuff happening over the weekend yeah one thing clog of the news is a news clogger Yes And and I am humbled to have to say I'm humbled at how well the machine operates when it comes to propagandizing millions of people into complete mindless zombie drones It was fascinating to watch and also disgusting. To a point it was disgusting This political child abuse is way beyond reprehensible at this point Well, I have a backgrounder that is by Jeff Pagay's who was over time the poop man is who is my favorite journalist because he gets to the point of

23:39 He gives a straight as an arrow report the way it's supposed to be done. There is no slant. With an unparalleled delivery! With a delivery that is all his own. The survivors of the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School Massacre turned their grief into action and now for 39 days they've used the spotlight to demand change that they believe is long overdue Welcome to the revolution Today, Marjory Stoneman Douglas students brought their movement to the streets of Washington. An expected crowd of half a million people joined their march for our lives

24:20 In the five and a half weeks since the massacre in the halls and classrooms of their Parkland, Florida high school in which the gunman shot and killed 17 people. Their mission has been to push lawmakers to act to prevent future mass shootings We are not here for breadcrumbs we are here for real change! Speakers addressing the massive crowd sought to reach a broader audience by also focusing their efforts on preventing senseless violence they believe is often overlooked. I am here today to acknowledge and represent the African-American girls whose stories don't make the front page of every national newspaper Newtown wants change. Parkland wants change with Capitol Hill within view they called for a ban on the sale of assault weapons and high-capacity magazines They also want lawmakers to close online and gun show loopholes Martin Luther King jr.'s granddaughter used his famous words as a call to action

25:32 Just yesterday Congress took incremental action to strengthen background checks here in the US But realistically the changes these student activists are demanding will be a tough sell Especially during an election year, you know Elaine we watched most of Saturday afternoon switching back and forth between CNN, MSNBC and Fox. Ah you missed C-SPAN okay Well they didn't have C-SPAN in the hotel so I'm glad that you did And we're just flipping back and forth and here's what became apparent The message is we want common sense gun laws some said comprehensive enough is enough We don't want to ban guns but we just don't want to die anymore

26:17 And, you know this whole afternoon was a meme fest of one-liner... You know like zingers that gets the crowd all excited but are really completely empty vapid and meaningless. But at the same time it was kids! It was so beautifully done! I mean these kid some of them were so nervous they're puking on stage there's all kinds of stuff happening this is abuse to such a degree But really all I heard was we don't want bump stocks, we want 21 to be the age which is brilliant for kids who are 16-17 years old because they can't even drink until that age so it's a very fair point.

26:54 and we don't want people who are mentally ill to get them, we want anyone who's a law-abiding citizen. So really, a lot of things they want which any person who can think rationally knows that they're totally doable and I think will do most of them if not all of them And if that makes everybody happy good It probably won't really stop the problem. It's like a health care system, give me a band-aid, give me a pill, give me something but let's not figure out why you're feeling this way or why are depressed or what is really causing the backache? None of that and to see these politicians like cohosts on CNN, Klobuchar was a cohost

27:38 Well, that's because the message I got was none of that because I wasn't watching any of those stations. Let me just finalize my thought what all I saw was very smart politicians who abused children and their parents by saying Look, if you take money from the NRA. If you're not going to be on our side if you're not saying the right things, if your virtue signaling properly we're going to make sure that no one votes for you in this upcoming election and we are gonna be old enough to vote Democrat in the next general election." And I think they were very successful! Well when you heard saw they kind of know what how their reporting on these other networks but The C-SPAN basically just had a camera on stage

CHAPTER 06 / 36 Discussion

Local Gun Protests, San Francisco Rallies, and Sign Collection

Local "March for Our Lives" rallies, including a report from KRON in San Francisco, mirrored the national movement with calls for Australian-style gun legislation. A suggestion is made to collect the abandoned, professionally made protest signs for future museum value. The emotional impact of the protests is highlighted by a first-grader's fear of being targeted in a school bathroom, which is described as a form of psychological abuse.

san francisco· kron· george soros· protest signs· museum archives· gun laws

28:25 And I want to play two clips because the message I got was get out and vote, vote, vote. And the only thing that was left out was Democrat. I got three, actually got three close. Before I play the C-SPAN clips and talk about the voting, we had every little area that couldn't afford, couldn't get Soros money to send the kids to Washington. We didn't get no Soros money so we did a local news report. They had their own protests locally and by the way if anybody goes to one of these things or they're there near the end...

29:04 For against it but if you're taking part can someone collect some of these signs. They leave the signs in a pile to rot and they get picked up by the garbage company, and then they get thrown out. Some of these signs if you just take the signs... The professional ones or the handmade ones? Actually both! Any sign all the signs that are interesting not the one's that say just a big letter no or something but this size these are valuable for a museum, not today not tomorrow but sometime in the future and somebody who collects these signs could do worse to do that. Anyway I wanted to do it myself but there wasn't anything nearby. There was nothing on your street! If anyone's on the street... fuck it I don't need to go

29:55 You are such a SJW. Here's the local San Francisco report from KRON. In a word, enough! People from all over the Bay Area rallied at City Hall Saturday demanding politicians pass more laws to protect kids from being killed by guns. I just think that this could totally be prevented we saw this happen in Australia and they passed laws and they haven't had any since, so it is absolutely doable and it's just a question of whether we as the voters, we as parents, we as families have the willpower to say no more not

30:34 another one. More than a million people took to the streets across the country inspired by the survivors of the Parkland Florida school shooting is awful to think what those parents must be going through and yeah we definitely don't want any family anymore families have to go through that A lot of young kids came with signs and express their hopes and their fears it feels weird to have To see these things happening to people about your age-ish and maybe it could happen to you. Yeah, sometimes I feel scared. My sign shows that people should care about kids more than just guns and people making dead makes other kids at my school worry so whenever i go to the bathroom and there's nobody else in the hallway I kind of rush there like somebody is going to kill me

31:28 I'd say that was a great ISO, but it's too gut-wrenching Kissed the worst gut right. I love that by the way this clip was for you So I could be good like it I so fit No, no because you talk about the abuse of kids and and in fact that you have this little she's like a first grader Yeah, someone wants to kill me somebody wants to kill me is her thought yeah when she goes through the bathroom? So she runs You know what wasn't missing he was missing from this protest. I mean surprise surprise surprise

CHAPTER 07 / 36 Discussion

Broward County Sheriff, Stoneman Douglas Arrests, and School Security

Security failures at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School continue to surface, including the arrest of three students for bringing knives and making social media threats just weeks after the mass shooting. Florida Senator Marco Rubio and the school superintendent faced criticism after a deputy was caught sleeping in his cruiser near the site of the tragedy. The Broward County Sheriff's Office is accused of systematically under-reporting crimes to improve performance metrics.

broward county· stoneman douglas· marco rubio· school safety· arrests· knives

32:04 Listen, we must remember the genesis of the problem which is the Broward County Sheriff's Office who refused to do anything about this particular kid and who have been systematically by agreement with the Attorney General not arresting kids and not apprehending them for certain crimes so that they can get better numbers on their performance report. That's really what happened in this case! And I'm wondering, by the way while you bring that up again what's what is the real crime rate in this area? I mean they say oh it's the safest city. Well if everything is like never reported... It's horrible! ...it's gonna look like the safest city. This a clip from a couple weeks ago

32:51 and this will because you'd think that after this event that things would calm down but this is the clip and it's called something's amiss at Stoneman Douglas High School community continue their call for change and prepare for their March on Washington we're not gonna stop and this is just the beginning Three students at Stoneman Douglas High School are getting a lesson in the law. The principal is sending this recorded message Tuesday evening. Earlier today, we had three incidents on campus that require law enforcement intervention due to student privacy laws I cannot disclose the details of these incidents however in all three cases the individuals involved will receive the appropriate consequences through the juvenile justice system and the district's code of student conduct Jordan Salter arrested Tuesday morning

33:35 say the 18 year old pulled a two-inch knife during the confrontation with a male classmate in the cafeteria. And there's people coming in with weapons and I'm shocked. About half hour later, BSO called back to school at 10am this time a tenth grader had made threatening posts on social media directed towards a classmate according to the report the student was pulled from class after posting pictures on Snapchat depicting handgun in his waistband and numerous bullets along with threatening messages He was eventually taken in for psychiatric evaluation. After what we've all been through, it doesn't make any sense at all And just after school let out Tuesday 16 year old Gavin Stricker also arrested Deputies say a nine-inch knife was found in his backpack

34:18 pack. Those students aren't the only ones in hot water Tuesday BSO deputy Moises Corati suspended without pay reportedly caught sleeping in his cruiser near the 1200 building Monday, the same building where those fatal shots were fired just over a month before In a statement, Florida Senator Marco Rubio saying of all the schools in America you would think this would be the safest one right now. This is so outrageous it's almost impossible to believe and the Broward School superintendent tweeting security at Marjory Stoneman Douglas continues to be an urgent priority for us given the developments over the past 24 hours we will further enhance school safety measures

CHAPTER 09 / 36 Discussion

Vietnam War Protests vs. Modern Student Movements

A comparison between the 1960s Vietnam War protests and modern gun control movements highlights differences in media manipulation and participant motivation. Unlike the modern movement, Vietnam-era protests were largely driven by the threat of the military draft and faced a pro-war media establishment until figures like Walter Cronkite shifted the narrative. The modern movement is viewed as more top-down and orchestrated by corporate media interests.

vietnam war· draft· media manipulation· walter cronkite· student protests

38:38 It stinks and the whole march, the march stinks too as far as I'm concerned. But let's play Of course the March stinks! We know this these children were persuaded into doing this and yeah And they had material written for them Oh Let's put that...I got to beginning of well there was just a bunch of singers came out their screeching and They finished up And the two C-Span clips I have are part of one longer clip, but this is Mania at School March C-Span. We want to thank you guys for coming out here and

39:28 We would not be here without you. There's no way in hell that we could ever have amounted to anything without the support of you guys! We all know what this is like, and it's up to us to stop it. So one last final plug... Get out there and vote! Get registered! Yeah, go right ahead. We are united. We are called the United States of America for that reason together we are whole together we're one look to your left and look to your right brothers and sisters is what I see Together we unite to make a whole Congress politicians you are the parents hear your children cry we want to come home! We want home! Whole Home!

40:21 Well, make our home prosperous. Make the generation that fights! Make the generation that is changed! We are the change! Look at us! Look at your children! Your children are the ones fighting for their rights because they're fighting for their life to survive Yeah, you know this is so powerful. This type of messaging not just the delivery vehicle for their rights It's the V it's the delivery vehicle of kids doing this that I've saw parent after parent after people who hate kids Like the artist, you know who doesn't invite me anymore toward her Obama bought dinners She's out there with the kid she hates kids she

40:57 She says so! She hates children. There are people who hate children? No, she should be happy that kids are being blown up in the school no she's out there with a sign that says the only thing easier than buying a gun in America is buying a Republican politician with the big picture of Ted Cruz you know it's like but it's the vehicle that is very powerful and even kid haters get in on it we are united That's why we're called the United States of America. What? Yeah, that was good. That what that last one said emotionally Here is a question for you I was too young and think you were enough age when the Vietnam protests in the 60s late 60 early 70s happened now did you witness that Late 60s early 70s yeah you witnessed that what were the core differences if any oh great question

41:56 It is a question that I have to pause. What's the core differences? Well, first of all it wasn't bunch of teenagers that were... you know, mostly the protesting was done by people who didn't want to get drafted into war they figured out at least in some schools A friend of mine who was at the air pollution district once just commented to me, he went to Ohio State and then he went into the Army. I said why'd you go in? To fight in Vietnam. He says well because I didn't go to Berkeley where they taught us that you were taught this war's a bunch of bull crap which it also came in McNamara's book said the same thing so anyone out there who says well you should have gone no cause it was, it was a bunch of bull crap

42:44 I don't know, you know there was something different about it because the similarities like your life was threatened but But with this, but if you look at the statistics it wasn't that threatened in either case. I don't know, I'd have to think about that question for a long time right now we have this situation unfolding. I'll think about it. I stumped him! Yeah you did kind of. That's okay It was different because for one thing I don't think it was as manipulated Media manipulation you mean? Yeah Because the media except for Cronkite

CHAPTER 10 / 36 Discussion

Planned Parenthood Lobbying, MLK Granddaughter, and Australia Gun Myths

Planned Parenthood's role as a major funder and lobbying organization for the gun control march is scrutinized, drawing parallels to the NRA's corporate structure. The appearance of Martin Luther King Jr.'s granddaughter at the rally is criticized for "watering down" the original "I Have a Dream" speech. Additionally, claims made during the rally regarding the total absence of violence in Australia following their gun buyback program are dismissed as "magic" thinking.

planned parenthood· nra· martin luther king jr· australia· gun buyback

43:23 was mostly pro-war and then they became kind of anti-war very slowly. And I don't know, you know in the past... Somebody can explain it better than i'm obviously doing. You'll get to it! In the past on second street, I've been duped and like this is years ago there's like hey we're playing parenthood yeah okay I'll sign up for Planned Parenthood whatever you know fine Until I realized that the money you give is not to for women's health It's that you're giving to the 501c4 corporation, which is a lobbying organization That's what planned parent who it is and I find it odd That the organization that actually wants to have less that helps less children being born was one of the main funders Of this entire event

44:14 And, you know I don't know if people realize that. The 500 million dollars they get is Medicare payments it's like a marker They don't get a big check not one of those giant jumbo clearing house checks No! It's for Medicare procedures they'll do which of course have nothing to with abortion because that would be illegal But they're a lobbying organization. No different than the NRA, except technically they kill more children! Technically, technically... Yeah that's good one. Well I get couple other things before we play this last clip which is just an extension of the clip you played with this girl says We are United That's why were called The United States Of America. We're Americans! Heard that alot

45:08 There was a the in the other clip. There's the woman who mentioned Australia? There's no violence in Australia anymore She says yeah, it's magic It's magic And then the thing that really bothered me was the great, supposedly the great granddaughter I'll assume it is of Martin Luther King who says uh...I have a dream no more whatever you know what i have a dream. That's my dream! That's my dream I think it was No she says I have a dream enough is enough Now if anybody else, somebody recently stole the I have a dream that tacos are great. There was something that was done with I have a dream and everybody jumped all over it because oh my god you used the Martin Luther King I Have A Dream thing but I Have A Dream enough is enough? I think is worse! Yeah It has nothing to do with the original dream. I Have A Dream enough is enough

46:06 It's kind of watering down the whole thing, isn't it? Well I just thought it was an insult in some way even though she has the right to, I suppose, to insult the words of her grandfather. Inferred right! So let's go through this second part which is a continuation of the first clip The Mania This was people on podium at the event in Washington DC Because they're fighting for their life to survive We are here today for the survival fact that no more, no bloodshed. Hold on stop it! Stop it now this girl's out of she's pulling a Sharpton she what she saying is making no sense you lost the plot but resist throwing words at her we must be forgiven

CHAPTER 11 / 36 Discussion

March for Our Lives Speeches, Voting Rhetoric, and Hands Across America

C-SPAN footage of the Washington D.C. rally features speakers using religious and patriotic rhetoric to urge youth registration for the Democratic party. The movement is compared to the 1986 "Hands Across America" event, suggesting that while such spectacles generate high emotion, they often fail to solve the underlying issues like homelessness or school safety. The "naive" nature of the student activists is noted as they are integrated into the political machine.

c-span· march for our lives· voting· hands across america· cbs· social movements

46:56 that no more. Oh, you're right hold on let me just rewind this is good because they're fighting for their life to survive we are here today for the survival fact that no more, no bloodshed due to the fact of a metal machine made by human. But resist we must. Triggered by human guns only serve one purpose We must take a life they don't spare they don't protect they take lives when you stare at a gun you know it's your end We are saying no more. We are here to say we are United States of America and we are one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all! You not are united! La lucha sigue ya! Para la gente our people!

48:00 We will not stop! We shall not stop. We are magical, somos poderosos. We are magic we are power. La gente bro la gente As one last important note, I think it's important that we realize just like we are all Americans We are all susceptible to the same corruption and greed regardless of who you are or where you come from. This is hog? What we have here, what is constantly being sowed... I believe so Are the seeds of corruption but it's our job as a democracy to ensure that those seeds never sprout! But

48:52 The only way you can do that is by getting out and voting. If not for me, for everybody else on this stage and every single American child out there vote for us! Vote for our future to help us fight for our lives at MarchForOurLives.com Hey everyone Thank you all for coming today if you look around you are surrounded by The people who will be making this country a better place and who will be making it easier to sleep at night? Easier to wake up in the morning and go to school and Easier to be Americans. Oh, they are so naive Well I when I

49:38 See this let's see how long they make you go. They did have a special on CBS called 39 days I wish I couldn't watch the when I see this, I think of nothing but hands across America my all-time favorite event Which was gonna end it was in homeless Yes And now and now we have tent cities as long as the hands across America Yeah, the... I don't know how this is gonna die off. It's taking a little longer than usual but it's gonna die off as usual and... Well you know the sad thing is that gets to be rekindled each time there's any kind of event

50:20 I think it may gain in strength each time. And again, I'm fine with that. I just couldn't find a succinct message We want to be safe but you know let's do this stuff that probably won't keep us safe Well, there's also they overlook the when outlaws or when guns are outlawed only outlaws will have a gun. There's so too many...there's 300 plus million guns in the United States so we make it harder to get them? There's already too many now they have the one that I always like to point out. Yeah, there were tons of fallacies. Of course, they like to point this out which is in CBS does this. I think every network has done one special report on the do-it-yourself guns.

CHAPTER 12 / 36 Discussion

Gun Show Loophole Myths, DIY Firearms, and the 2018 Blue Wave

The "gun show loophole" is characterized as a persistent media myth, as commercial internet sales still require licensed dealer transfers. The discussion shifts to the 2018 midterm elections, predicting a "blue wave" for Democrats due to typical off-year complacency rather than the impact of student protests. Notably, the March for Our Lives featured very little direct "Trump hate," focusing instead on legislative change and voter turnout.

gun show loophole· glock· ghost guns· 2018 midterms· donald trump· democrats

51:09 Where you can buy all the pieces, mail order and then you just screw it together and get a Glock. The fallacy that keeps being repeated is we have to... It just comes back in a cycle if the close the gun show loophole which doesn't exist. You can't you could just buy a gun on the internet now you can because if you have to go pick it up it has to be done by an official gun that you know dealer yeah no you this is the why I think your honor them one of the huge problems is promoting myths that can be easily debunked it weakens your argument well times just so we gotta close to gun loop other gun show loophole what gun show loophole

51:54 Yeah, now can I buy a gun and then give it to somebody? Yeah sure. And again...I really don't care register everybody it's all fine It's not going to end the problem we need to look at other things like law enforcement in places like Broward County and drugs kids are put on how about starting there So it's just a big joke and to me, it's a joke. It's sad I see these kids being abused and for political gain... And all this is to promote Democrat politics? Yes! All that it's about. And I think that could really work What do you mean could really work? I think we'll see the blue wave of Democrats in this... Oh there's going to be a blue wave of Democrats whether these kids are out there or not. I don't think its gonna really make a difference

52:43 Personally, I don't think it's going to work because the Democrats are already taking over the place in 2018 which is what happened to Obama when Republicans took over. It always happens in these off years because the other party is complacent and it's possible that Trump can maybe get people pay a little attention because of what happened in Pennsylvania and get out to vote more than other candidates would, because there's a base that they like to bitch and moan about the base. The base! All your base belong to us? So they got this base and maybe they get the base off their asses. But you know even the base seems to be taken in by the news coverage which is slanted against Trump, yeah and so maybe I think the bases... I don't know that guy seems like a doofus. Yeah i will say I thought there was very little Trump hate in the march it was noticeable why that's a good point

53:43 Because he's irrelevant in what is going to happen in November. That's what the focus was on, focuses on elect Democrats. Actually good observation that it was a very little Trump hate. Very little Trump hate. Nobody talked about him. Nope. It wasn't his fault and he seems to be on their side to some degree yeah I'll sign the thing about bump stocks so make you happy And we're not going to go anywhere with that. We just have to see how it unfolds, but it's gonna all happen in November and I think the next phase is...we need to have kids. Kids they're the vehicle now then I promise you the kids who are now on the cover of Time magazine for what that's worth these days they will run into serious psychological issues

CHAPTER 13 / 36 Discussion

David Hogg Media Presence, Ben Shapiro Comparison, and Host Banter

Student activist David Hogg is compared to a liberal version of Ben Shapiro, noted for his quick-witted but potentially scripted media presence. Warnings are issued that the media machine often "boomerangs" on young figures who are used for political ends. A brief tangent covers a mutual acquaintance—an artist and "social justice warrior"—who reportedly hates children despite supporting the march.

david hogg· ben shapiro· time magazine· media machine· social justice warriors

54:40 The media, I can't stress this enough. The media machine you make use of it to promote something somewhere down the line sometimes very quickly it can take years It boomerangs back and it takes you down It's just how it works. You've had this happen 30 times in your career and not that you give a crap I don't give a crap, eh? Yeah And yes i have as you know hello mouse Hello mouse! How many years ago? It was thirty years later iPhone schmiphone iPad yeah It happens but

55:17 If you're doing it, if you're doing contrarian type report writing, basically opinion. It's a little different I'm trying to ask him for it but I have certainly abused media situations to promote things and it's always come back one way or the other sometimes directly related to that very issue You have to be so careful and these kids have no idea what they're getting into this David Hogg either he becomes the anchor of NBC News very possible Or maybe even CBS News. Or he winds up hurting himself, this kid is going to be in a shitty situation Well he's got good... I don't like his looks

56:00 But he's got good presence, he's got good speaking skills. He should be a podcaster! Somebody might be... somebody is writing his material I believe from the sounds of it because is that little too slick? Yes yes and he could be who's that kid did that guy you hate Ben Shapiro that fast-talking Republican conservative? I don't know if I hate him Yeah, you do. Okay I hate him alright. He's an example of a guy when he was like 10 or 11 or 12 years in school he was a fast-talking little kid that the Republicans grabbed and said here...you know what? I think it was under 18 and they would put him in front of groups and he is such a fast thinker fast talker that unfortunately talks too fast

56:55 But he's quick-witted and they would use him as the same kind of foil. You know, one of these smart little conservative kids to just blow people away and you know finally got bigger and bigger could do some books that make a lot of money I've never seen the backlash against him. This hog guy could float right into the same thing on the other side I can see it happening with that. I know why this is happening because now he's doing interviews and and i've decided for myself, I'm not playing any clips of these kids... He's doing too many interviews by the way! Yeah, I'm not playing any clips of these kids. I won't participate in this abuse even though some of it could be very funny

57:35 I probably will good I'm heartless about that sort of yeah, and I love you for that. I love that You're so hard nice when it comes to kids is great But he's easy dropping f-bombs he had a great quote just like oh Yeah, is he going after his parents? My parents don't know how to fucking democracy works. They don't know how to use fucking democracy so I'm gonna have to show them how to use fucking democracy! This is not a good start to your... It's psycho. Yeah it's not good and it's because...

58:16 But just to back up a little bit, I get that. I'm still kind of amused or bemused one of the two about your artist friend who doesn't invite you anything anymore because I think is wants to Stanford people left. Yeah she bailed out once the professor hated me was all over actually the professor doesn't hate me it's his wife who hates me oh yeah i don't blame her i still i'm still face bag friends with him and i dropped something on him once in awhile The, I thought he cut you off. No no no But the fact that she hates kids because you obviously picked up on this because she said it You know people that hate kids Everybody out there knows who hates kids They tell you they hate kids Especially when they sit behind you on the plane They shouldn't be in first class Why are they in restaurants? Why are they breathing my air Yeah Now... yeah I reported on this To be at this thing is just priceless! I'll send you the photo

CHAPTER 14 / 36 Discussion

Pennsylvania School District, Arming Students with Rocks

The Blue Mountain School District in Pennsylvania has implemented a controversial security plan by equipping every classroom with a five-gallon bucket of river stones. Superintendent Dr. David Hesel defended the plan, suggesting students could "stone" an intruder as a last resort. The idea is mocked as ludicrous, with a counter-suggestion that students should instead be trained with high-powered slingshots for better defense.

pennsylvania· blue mountain school district· david hesel· school security· slingshots

59:14 She posted on the back. Oh, I gotta see that. Oh yeah she posted it on the face back. I'm gonna put it in a newsletter but I won't put it in a newsletter. Nah maybe not a good idea There is a bright shining star amongst all these fabulous ideas where, and I'm just going to say it. Black parents are smart in America they want their kids in the school that has metal detector where nothing comes in including your cell phone doesn't come into the school for some reason parents white parents yeah that's what I'm seeing on the news never saw a march by the way for black kids in black schools In this case, Brown doesn't count. Well there was a lot of black representation at this on the podium at this march and then when they shot the audience I saw plenty of black kids...I heard a lot oh it's only white white white no no no. There was plenty. Let's just say privileged not white privileged parents with money yeah well somebody had money to ship the kid to Washington so but we have better ideas

1:00:17 We got better ideas than metal detectors. And I think it's the way to go, you want to protect kids? Put the metal detectors in. Protect them from themselves! This is Pennsylvania... their school district has a novel idea In the name of school safety, a Pennsylvania School District superintendent has armed students with rocks Every classroom has been equipped with a five-gallon bucket full of river stone If an armed intruder attempts to gain entrance to any of our classrooms, they will face a classroom full of students armed with rocks and they will be stoned. Dr David Hesel of Blue Mountain School District elaborated on his plan receiving mixed reviews from residents. At one time I just had the idea of river stone. They're right size for hands you can throw them very hard and they will create or cause pain which can distract

1:01:06 It matters because it'll help us protect against the school and stuff. I mean anything, anything helps rocks are better than books and pencils. Hesel said teachers staff and students have received active shooter training And one employee is trained as a security guard according to KMOV The district has no plan to arm teachers with guns. I love it man You're gonna be stoned Yeah well probably would be a deterrent yeah but still On the face of it, it sounds kind of ludicrous. So in your classroom next to you and next to your desk a bucket of stones for each kid? Well there's a five-gallon bucket and don't they have to practice is that part of PE now well they should be able to throw rock lot of kids can't throw anything They're just...they throw like girls How about a slingshot get a slingshot Oh now you talk Now we're down now You got a weapon as you know

1:02:05 David did slay Goliath with it. I always have slingshots around the house, yeah. You can get the new ones? Have you seen the new ones that have the grip that goes around your... Yeah, with wrist guard! With the wrist support. The stabilizer. Yes, the stabilizer. Oh yeah they're mean. Everyone should play around with this Slingshot go to anyone this play around shake a look Check out, you know when it you see those old cartoons or when I was a kid that kid would have a slingshot in his back pocket hanging out It would be very obvious By the way an iconic Rockwell esque American portrait of a kid with a slingshot out. It was hanging out of his back pocket Yeah, no more nowadays arrest them nowadays. It's a spinner

CHAPTER 15 / 36 Discussion

Austin Building Implosion, WTC 7 Comparisons

A building implosion in downtown Austin at 8:00 AM drew immediate comparisons to the collapse of World Trade Center Building 7. Eyewitness video captured the puffs of smoke and sequential explosions characteristic of a controlled demolition. The event served as a "surreal flashback" for those skeptical of the official 9/11 narrative.

austin· building implosion· wtc 7· controlled demolition· twitter

1:02:57 This is unbelievable. My goodness, what are you gonna do? Yeah well something exciting this morning I tweeted about it I know you don't follow me but you might want to look at my tweeter they ima follow you did you see the they imploded the building and i was able to get a perfect shot from my for my balcony no I did not see that and man I you know I just tweeted Austin 8am when you see this thing WTC7 won't go away I'm not kidding man. You see the flashes come out first, the puffs of smoke Then you hear the explosions then boom-boom-boom-boom then more as it's falling onto itself It was...you watch this video and it's like whoa surreal flashback What did you expect?

1:03:51 I've never seen a building go up before. Not that close, no. Yeah it's what it looks like. It looks like WTC 7. It looks like all of them actually even the twin towers they all went down in a very controlled way Yeah, well there you go. So what's your point? I just wanted to say because i mentioned it was going to happen and I witnessed it this morning that's all Oh good yeah I think they're great And I got a good video You should look at the video I am going to do that I'm not gonna do this second I'll do it now while we do the donation segment No I gotta organize donations With that I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John Cee-Ras! He stands for c-span is what I watch Dvorak

CHAPTER 16 / 36 Discussion

No Agenda Episode 1018, Artwork and Donation Slowdown

The artwork for Episode 1018, titled "Bunny Wars," features Mark Zuckerberg in a Russian military hat. A significant slowdown in listener donations is attributed to the severe "Nor'easter" storms on the East Coast, which have disrupted power and mail delivery for millions. The hosts note a "very poor showing" of only 19 donations over $50, speculating that bank checks are stuck in the postal system.

no agenda· zuckerberg· bunny wars· donations· nor'easters· mail delivery

1:04:37 In the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry! In the morning to all of the ships at sea, boots on the ground and feet in the air, subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there! In the morning to our troll room Hello trolls no agenda stream calm is where you can join the part at twice a week Thursday and Sunday mornings also, a hefty ITM in the morning to Silent Tapper 72 he brought us the artwork for episode 10 18 bunny wars with picture of Zuckerberg with a Russian hat Russian military Hat on

1:05:16 Uh, this was actually... wasn't this in Evergreen? Yes. This was buried way deep in the evergreens and it was uh About some other issue that came up it was it wasn't designed for this show but it fit in and that's what the one of the reasons the evergreens works so well, and I don't remember what there was a while ago when that thing showed up But it fit into the show theme that we had So we picked it because the other art was never quite hit the mark you there was something you wanted to say about it. I can't there was some other comment About the art that you know, I don't remember either It's probably about the art itself. Yeah well stuff that was submitted yeah, I don't remember mom I don't remember well if we Probably will remember after this year. That's right it was a message to the artist. I'm sure what it was Yeah We're off the air and will remember all right always trying to clue the artists into what? Works or what doesn't work the newsletter was disturbing to me

1:06:22 Yeah, as I read so well. I'm sure that the donations are disturbing then yes and now I understand that they are related the newsletter info and Because of the storms on the east coast and all the cancer 100 million people according to David Muir which I mentioned in the newsletter Are affected by these nor'easters? And it's been taking it has been going on and on and on It's been a whole month almost yeah, and I believe these people aren't listening to this show They probably aren't even getting the newsletter because they don't know have power and I think the males are jammed up because we get, I mean the amount of checks that came. The checks that come in are mostly checks from banks and they come in little piles of checks and there's quite a few... From each bank or whole bunch of banks in one pile? Usually no you usually the smart money especially the credit unions they all consolidate with some clearing house so they all come in as a pack

1:07:14 And the individual banks rarely send stuff, although some of the dumber banks do. There's one check in an envelope seems like a waste of money to send it that way when you could put five checks in there and they come in and is pretty consistent because these are all subscriptions and lot of $5 checks, lotta $5 checks. And they come in as pretty consistently So far as the pile of checks is concerned not in so far as the mounts. Mm-hmm and No, pals cut way down is half of them normal check. So I think a lot of this stuff is stuck in these Places where the mail must go through when we'll rain sleet snow bullcrap Yeah, what about your slogan

1:08:01 I guess they should add global warming and climate change to things they can go through, but no. So they get...they have so the..I think we're got a problem here now that it should resolve itself next month but this is a slowdown the way i see it yeah yeah so we only had 19 donations geez over $50 on today's show which is very low And we only have executive producers for some unknown reason and no associates. We do have a lot of executive producers who kind of held up the ship here, but... Thank goodness I'm seeing that. Very very poor showing it. I want to remind people they live outside the country, they live outside in the Northeast where we have probably half of our listeners help us out

CHAPTER 17 / 36 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits, Knighthoods, and Value-for-Value

The "Value-for-Value" model is supported by several high-tier donors, including Brandon Gruber and Chris Ramer. New knights are dubbed, including "Sir Pinder-net of the Lucky 13" and "Circus Media Knight of Zoo Town." A discussion of Texas geography clarifies that Texas Tech is located in Lubbock, while Texas A&M is the "Aggieland" agricultural school. The segment concludes with a reminder that No Agenda credits can be used on professional resumes.

value-for-value· missoula· lubbock· texas tech· aggieland· knighthood

1:08:50 Yeah, what is it? Do you think this is because it's also tax time that probably can't help. No tax time I noticed with the tax time thing goes down starting right after my birthday When's your birthday April 5 coming up oh Then after that there's do I get we get some good donations for my birthday then it drops off Because of the tax time and then it picks up yeah in May Okay, if my memory serves me correctly so let's thank their executive producers today no associates starting with Brandon Gruber who came in with $357 from Vista California and he is Says John Adam. Please grant my smoking hot wife Illuminati a hey some jobs karma

1:09:42 Yours. Your's I BG. Jobs, jobs and jobs! Let's vote for jobs! You've got karma Onward to... who is it? Robert Pinder or the one- No, Chris Ramer in Missoula Montana Yeah he clogged up the spreadsheet but his note says How much was it donated? $333.33 I was scrolling through Tumblr. Uh-huh, yeah? Great line! I was scrolling through Tumblr minding my own business... And other people's business. Yeah apparently and by the way I should have wondered about this the kind of crap that is on tumbler that's buried on tumbler and some of these other sites is there's illegal pornography on their oh it tons of it

1:10:44 And they're the ones that are storing it. Yeah, why doesn't the government do something? Oh they have but we'll get to that later by coincidence they have when suddenly this stream flooded with ads of propaganda about the kids who've had enough I hate it when i'm scrolling through tumblr and kids like that show up. That's no good Nearly an ad per post obviously that killed the mood What's he up to? Wait a minute, here's what it sounds like when you're scrolling through tumblr You hate that sound Addicts favorite sound effect I haven't done it in years That's not true

1:11:26 Then I came to a dead stop. See email for post, well you didn't see that. The US corporate party's misinformation campaign kicks Russia's corporate disinformation campaign in the teeth No it is not misinformation its informed dominance A vigorous attempt by the intelligence industrial complex to maintain its statue after humiliating defeat You know how... It goes on, I don't know if we need to read this. Well just on that I wanted to say originally it wasn't the just the military-industrial complex it was the military educational industrial complex. Yeah academia. Academia, academia thank you and boy has that ever come true! Oh yeah no kidding

1:12:13 Tomorrow I will don the armor of the Lord and propagate the formula, and by this Easter at the end of Holy Week it will be... leave a night ring impression. Please knight me sir. Cuss Media Night of Zoo Town Missoula Montana Circus media like it Circus, circus. Oh, circus! It's a circus media. Very good pun. And he wants bourbon and bong rips Yeah sound out to Missoula producers Let's meet up April 15th for episode 1025 code for report in person and together we'll keep the Animals from running amok okay well is these on the night list I take it bourbon and

1:13:01 Long rips that's nice for the roundtable long rips yeah Onward Robert Pinder 333 33 in Springfield, Virginia Finally able to get my knighthood. I've been listening since episode 1 and donating would have been able since March 2009 NJNK please knight me as Sir Pinder-net of the Lucky 33. Hmm, no lucky 13 oh I'm sorry like you're 13 sir pindernet well i can't decode what that would be about but of course look forward to uh the ceremony with you and Chris it'd be fun Isaac Cha in Lubbock

1:13:48 Texas, 333 if you don't know where Lubbock is. I started listening to your podcast last year and found it both entertaining and informative. I find the value for value model intriguing and thought it was time to donate in recognition of the value of this show. Keep up with the good work! Alright, P.S., go Blue Devils! Go Blue Devils he's a dukey. Well there are a lot of producers in Lubbock. Huh? Yeah. I'm telling ya. It's college town right? Lubbock what college? Lubbock University I don't know. I thought it was a college town, what do i know? You're living in Texas you should know all this stuff and you should know where Texas A&M is... I was at Texas Tech. And I know why it's called Aggieland

1:14:36 Because it's an agricultural school. Yes! Texas Agricultural and Mechanical School, I didn't know that before Yeah there is a bunch of Aggie schools they're always called Aggies And they hate people from Austin Anyone who goes to any other college, they are like Aggies, Aggies Which is the diminutive term They try to put down Oh but they wear with pride Yeah I think so The university says Aggieland right there Come on Greetings from Lubbock, Texas. I started listening to your podcast last year and found it... Didn't I just read this? Yeah you did! Okay well somehow got distracted Graham Scott 333 in Rancho Palos Verdes California and I don't know if you should have noticed it was empty before and I would have looked up the email Did he send a note? What's his address? Is Isaac? No Graham

1:15:34 Graham Scott yeah you keep going back to Isaac but it's Graham Scott I'm obsessing on this Isaac guy. Yeah, he does not show a... Graham Scott Hey Texas Tech is in Lubbock see? I knew i was right Oh okay Ha! Yeah I know you got me Twice once coming and once pulling out Okay Now did you find the email No, there's no uh... I'll give him a karma just in case you requested one. You've got karma. Alright and that's it! That's what we got there is no more short show today. We should have a short show anyway

1:16:22 We do want to thank these executive producers profusely for helping us with big numbers too. That really does make a big difference, especially on day like this and of course we appreciate all the work that our producers do and our mail carriers of America I would hate to think that you know they'd be like screw those no agenda guys and then toss this into the snow drift You know, you gotta be nice to them John. They do listen a number of them do listen I'm very but well i'm the one who keeps promoting the mail guys is getting screwed by this phony baloney Edict that they have to pre pay their Their nobody else has to do this by with anyone else had to prepay their retirement funds So it's fully funded The whole country would be bankrupt good save thank you

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CHAPTER 18 / 36 Discussion

Facebook Scrutiny, Mark Zuckerberg, and Political Blame Shifting

The media focus has shifted from Russian collusion to Facebook and Mark Zuckerberg's leadership. This transition is viewed as a strategic move by the political establishment to find a new scapegoat for the 2016 election results. Despite the company's workforce being predominantly Democratic, Facebook is being targeted for regulation and public shaming by the same "machine" that utilizes it for political gain.

mark zuckerberg· facebook· cambridge analytica· russia collusion· hillary clinton

1:18:05 Well what I I'm gleeful actually, I should say. I'm gleeful Yeah, what I'd be gleeful too if I managed to get back with that car What I had predicted is really starting to happen with the focus shifting from Russia To face bag and it's beautiful It's you know, I don't want anyone to hurt anyone's demise personally or commercially. But i'll make an exception for Mark Zuckerberg and face bag. I will make an exception uh And all the more because well You know just to stop you before you begin this little whatever it is You're going to go on which sounds like a winner Is that there's something everybody kind of wants to watch zuckerberg squirm? Well, he's a global leader

1:19:05 He is. He's considered a global leader and it's fun to watch guys like that squirm, but the machine – the same machine that abuses these kids for political gain is now abusing facebag and Mark Zuckerberg personally for political gain. And with political gain, I mean we've got to shift the blame somewhere we've gotta make sure we put some regulations in... Does anybody find it ironic that Zuckerberg now of course they're blaming face bag for the Trump thing when everybody at that company is a Democrat that voted for Hillary? Uh... Does anyone find any irony in that? Yeah well not everyone's a Democrat

1:19:49 We know that for fact because they sent their Republican worker bees who I think are shackled and chained in the dungeon, you know like the gimp with a gag ball. All right! You can go with the Trump campaign out you go slave Go show them how our platform works But once you get Podesta making a rare appearance with a very safe space for him with Andrea Mitchell So it's safe for him And you hear now that he is himself shifting the blame to face bag. So we may not be able to find any Russia collusion, but oh my god yes here it is and it's so clear and in addition to this...

CHAPTER 19 / 36 Discussion

John Podesta, Cambridge Analytica, and NBC Media Narratives

John Podesta appeared on MSNBC to discuss the "pilfering" of 50 million Facebook users' data by Cambridge Analytica. Podesta attempted to link the timing of WikiLeaks' email dumps to the Access Hollywood tape, suggesting coordination with Russia. However, the narrative is challenged by the fact that the DNC never allowed the FBI to examine its servers, relying instead on the private firm CrowdStrike.

john podesta· cambridge analytica· nbc· msnbc· wikileaks· crowdstrike

1:20:38 tried to reconcile this, we had Joe Johnson of Department of Homeland Security saying We told everybody the Russians had hacked. We told everybody that Russians have hacked our democracy, hacked our way in They did it and then The Trump campaign released... no then because because of the Access Hollywood tape No one paid attention to it I'm very pissed off even put..no one followed up with me no one wanted to know Yet Podesta's gonna talk about that same moment in time and he has a very different take on it well Some of this we knew but I think we're finding out a lot more information now particularly the fact that Private information of 50 million Facebook users was pilfered using a hillford ooh Pilford, I love that word what exactly is the definition of Pilford? Stolen is that really the exact is that

1:21:32 Pretty much. It's an old term that people don't use much, but pilfered you know you pilfered it, you stole it. Stole! Pilfered so it's not like felched? Pilfered is different You look at that, you can look it up That private information of 50 million Facebook users was pilfered using a ruse of having an academic come in and try to access the data And we learned that that's been transferred to Cambridge Analytica And they evidently used it during the course of the campaign. The data from your emails, your email dump came out only minutes after Access Hollywood. Late on a Friday afternoon so... Which was and just to set the context most of those WikiLeaks dumps were early in the morning to drive the news cycle here in the US

1:22:23 This was unusual from the get-go and you guys noticed it right away. Oh absolutely, I think it was done to try to divert attention at least give the anchors on Fox News something to talk about other than the Access Hollywood tape and I think that the question is whether there was coordination between the campaign and Wikileaks, at least through intermediaries about the timing of the release. And since Wikileaks is connected to Russia that... How does that work? Since WikiLeaks is connected to Russia! Is that a fact?! What yeah, she just said that since WikiLeaks is connected to Russia at least through intermediaries About the timing of the release and certainly it's a Russia that how does that? Arouse your suspicions about Russia's role clearly though Wikileaks obtained And I think all the US intelligence can be blew it off. Oh yeah

1:23:22 He went right past it. He wanted nothing to do with that. No, because this bull crap! She's full of it she's obviously been told that's one of those little talking points you try to stick to at MSNBC and NBC as a whole. NBC has become the bad actor yep how does that Arouse your suspicions about Russia's role clearly though WikiLeaks obtained and I think that all the US intelligence community believes that you that Wikileaks obtain those these mails as a result of the Russian intelligence agencies hacking Into my account into the DNC accounts and then providing them to WikiLeaks Okay, couple issues with this The intelligence agencies don't actually know that for fact because they never saw the servers never saw the DNC servers

1:24:07 They were given to, what was it? Crowdflare, crowdsource, crowdstrike. Pew pew! Those guys so no the intelligence agencies actually couldn't claim that and as for his email we know how that took place that was not a hack It was a fishing expedition. Yeah, which I just don't work. I just don't think is the same thing as a hack But so why do they keep you know? They like to stay on these memes hoping the public eventually falls prey To believing well say the public has fallen prey to this one they fall and pray too a lot yeah, but NBC I just don't want it to keep you from finishing this talk, but I am stunned that

CHAPTER 20 / 36 Discussion

Comcast-GE Interests, Roger Stone, and Guccifer 2.0

The aggressive anti-Trump stance of NBC is questioned given that its parent companies, Comcast and GE, rely on government approval for mergers and defense contracts. Meanwhile, new claims regarding Guccifer 2.0 suggest he was a Russian agent who forgot to use a VPN, contradicting earlier reports that he was a Romanian hacker. These developments are seen as part of a broader effort to tie Roger Stone and the Trump campaign to Russian intelligence.

comcast· general electric· roger stone· guccifer 2.0· vpn· romania

1:24:52 That Comcast, who owns NBC most of it. General Electric owns a lot of it still but not the majority stake that they do this to an administration that can screw them over with their merger and acquisition plans you mean? Mergers and acquisitions, pricings General Electric still has to sell turbines to the Air Force, jet engines. It just stuns me! Who's a possible competitor to GE for jet engines? Pratt & Whitney, Rolls-Royce... We wouldn't want to go R&R but Pratt and Whitney yeah Yeah you're right that is stunning actually I find it unbelievable that the executives if i was a shareholder in Comcast NBC Eye

1:25:44 I would really be up in arms about this. I would demand that the CEOs get fired. Hmm, what's their stock ticker? Is it a short? No, I don't think it is a short. I think the short is where you gave us at the beginning of the show. Tesla! Tesla is the short. And uh... The interesting-I think one interesting line of inquiry that still needs to be pursued is He's telling he's tell-this is He's telling us what is going to happen, I presume. An interesting line that needs to be pursued... Okay we can keep our eye out for it. ...account into the DNC accounts and then providing them to WikiLeaks And uh.. The interesting-I think one interesting line of inquiry that still needs to be pursued is We now know Mr Nix, the CEO of Cambridge Analytica was in touch with Mr Assange. We don't know exactly the full extent of How do you know this? Did you know this?

1:26:36 I didn't know this. He says we now know this Well, where's the now come? What is he talking about? I don't know. We now know... I might have missed something. I paid pretty close attention After the show i'm tweeting Assange on Twitter and I'm gonna ask him Okay What they might have communicated with one another but clearly Mr. Nix was trying to get access to what Mr. Assange was talking about. We know that uh the same thing was true with Roger Stone trying to contact WikiLeaks Okay, so what he's saying there is we know Roger Stone was trying to get contacts with Wikileaks. This is the infamous direct Twitter message exchange between him and Guccifer 2.0 who now we find out from sources, sources familiar with the matter, who slipped up and he let it slip up and forgot to turn on his VPN and exposed him as a Russian agent! But this was the guy whose in jail in Romania

1:27:36 And who literally said in multiple interviews, I would often use Russian VPNs because they're faster. But now that's turned into ah he used a Russian VPN he wasn't Romanian and he was Russian What? Yes you haven't heard this No, this is dumb. Yeah but well Podesta knows what he's doing he's trying to tie it all together here We know that the same thing was true with Roger Stone trying to contact WikiLeaks and others, Guccifer 2.0 which was a direct Russian front So, yeah there's a lot of questions out there. There is a lot to be answered for I think one of the things that again this is sort of new news revelation by Mr Wiley the whistleblower...

CHAPTER 21 / 36 Discussion

Christopher Wylie Whistleblower Claims, Steve Bannon, and The View

Christopher Wylie, the "pink-haired whistleblower" from Cambridge Analytica, is criticized as a political operative rather than a genuine whistleblower like Edward Snowden. Wylie claims Steve Bannon directed the acquisition of Facebook data to influence voters through "psychographic" messaging. This narrative has reached mainstream daytime television, with hosts on *The View* debating whether to delete Facebook entirely.

christopher wylie· steve bannon· cambridge analytica· the view· whoopi goldberg· psychographics

1:28:24 The jermoke with the pink hair and the nose ring is now Mr. Wiley, the whistleblower and he'll keep calling him a whistleblower throughout this interview when he's not a whistleblower. A whistleblower you know is doing something against his best interest working usually working at the organization. You're working at the organization? You find out some bad stuff yeah Snowden that's a whistleblower snow Well, Benny Thomas Drake. There's a bunch of whistleblowers that are genuine whistleblowers Yes, this is an insult to whistleblowers everywhere Was trying to demean them I guess or maybe, I don't know what did he's trying to elevate the the moron kid He's trying to elevate that kid into something real again. This is sort of new news that revelation by mr.. Wiley the whistleblower at Cambridge Analytica noted that Steve Bannon was directing the

1:29:20 the acquisition of Facebook information during his tenure as a board member and board secretary of Cambridge Analytica. What? Hold on! Stop, you've been on boards I sure have Do you get to dictate anything? How often do you go down and see the troops and tell them what to do. No, board members are to be blown that's what happens there the troops don't listen they can say anything about nothing Nothing! They get to say nothing about nothing they have a board meeting Yeah they get their shares You know get out of it then going into the field all of a sudden become hey I'm a board member you got to do what i say Any collusion It's yeah... There is really

1:30:06 Being a board member is a hassle and people typically don't want to go. But then, you know they give you a whole bunch of shares okay I guess I gotta go. I'm on the board. The whole thing is bullcrap this is a bull crap comment. During his tenure as a board member and Board Secretary of Cambridge Analytica they were meeting in the apartment of Rebecca Mercer with Robert Mercer who are the backers of Cambridge Analytica and also huge funders of the Trump campaign. I don't think that's true, but I don't know what she means by the Trump campaign as far as i know trumps you know the primary he funded himself I think Mercer is probably donate to the RNC

1:30:51 But it kind of make it sound like, oh yeah we got the Russians. We've got the big billionaires there you get a big ban in bad guy and connections everywhere baby stone thing bringing stones and stolen campaign huge funders of Breitbart News and I think it's time to reopen that investigation as Democrats have suggested It's time to bring up the Mercers back Bring Back Mr Bannon and ask them what they knew when did they know Alright, so now with all of this information that John Podesta has handily put together for us Now we can understand exactly what went down with the data from badass face bag Cambridge Analytica You know Russians Luke oil all the stuff What here's what it resulted in and then when you look at what they were again In that sting video what they're touting Putting information into the bloodstream of the Internet. Oh yes

1:31:46 The Holy Grail! Putting information into the bloodstream of the internet. Is it like a main artery you go to? And Cambridge Analytica has the scalpel... Is that how it works? Putting information into the bloodstream of the internet, letting it push out the whole idea that this Russian operation was built around the same thing. Of trying to push fake news into that blood stream and let it rattle around and affect people's attitudes. Oh yeah! So you put here's how it works. They should put this in their pitch document, we push disinformation into the bloodstream we let it rattle around a little bit and then people think differently that's right by now will give you to the idea of psychographic information that might affect people's tendency to be fearful or to send racial messages all that sort of a racial messages Oh gets better now

1:32:48 They're pumping racial messages into the bloodstream. All that sort of a piece, what we don't know is there's direct connection between the Russian operation and Cambridge Analytica? To be continued! To be continued! Dum-dum dum-dum... Now why do I know this is working? What's working? The campaign against the face bag to move the problem from Russia to face bag How do we know? Because the view is talking about it. And they're not very flattering! So our responsibility now is to make sure that this doesn't happen again Thanks Mark Zuckerberg, super genuine I feel so much better It's like an android giving an interview It's like a hologram of a person You're talking about our personal data and by the way he's like I'm sure someone is trying to use Facebook To meddle in our midterm elections

CHAPTER 22 / 36 Discussion

Facebook Deletion Debate, Joy Behar, and Regulation

The debate over the #DeleteFacebook movement intensified following Mark Zuckerberg's CNN interview. Joy Behar of *The View* expressed her intent to delete her account, demanding that Zuckerberg apologize to Hillary Clinton. The discussion highlights the "dystopian" way personal data is used to manipulate elections, leading to calls for government regulation of social media platforms.

facebook· joy behar· hillary clinton· cnn· regulation· data privacy

1:33:44 Okay, fantastic. You want to do something about it with your billion dollars? company, I think is a PR disaster and their stock will probably continue to plummet. Okay? Okay! Okay Joy! It's hard because one it's really hard to drop Facebook not just emotionally because they make it almost impossible there was like a 90 day waiting period yeah like and then if you click back on just for a second it starts the clock all over again it's like a bad diet it's really hard but um on top of that I think their strength, which is their size is their weakness in this. They cannot keep up with the security and technology as they advance so it's like they left all of safety precautions behind as they just kept growing and growing. He did know that he took steps to correct any breaches but what is this?

1:34:41 She's getting it was very odd this moment. She she's reaching for her ear because the control room is someone saying something to her And I'm not sure if they said go easy on face bag or double down But whatever the case once she kind of stumbles fumbles through it Joy Behar picks it up what I would I think what was being said in the control room reaches, but I just I What is this? Is there a song in your heart? I'm hearing something from the control room. Joy, you say it. People aren't going to delete Facebook. Right? No I am. You are?! I am gonna delete it. First of all I'd say two things... Okay, I know what happened. I think what happened is the control room was like okay enough of this The debate they wanted and we know that the view is completely scripted It's scripted They are reading their reading and when they go off script is when they get into trouble people get fired

1:35:37 I think the control room said, hello back to the core of the controversy. Do we delete Facebook or do we not delete Facebook? I think that's what they were trying to do which is why she says oh you know getting people dissident meant deleting her Facebook...I don't know and then Joy Pyle jumps in saying I'm gonna delete Facebook! I think that's what they were going for in this segment. But I think that it um you know People aren't going to delete Facebook right people are gonna know why I am you are. I am glad to leave it First of all, let's say two things number one Zuckerberg needs to apologize to Hillary Clinton number one Stand on Facebook is people professing their love for each other. Oh, those were my favorite. I can't stand it It's like why do the Russians have to know that? I love my husband I love

1:36:29 Why don't you just say it? Everybody has to know this. The Russians have to know about it! We are the product, all of our information, all of our personal information, all our photos they're going to use it in the most absurd dystopian darkest science fiction way In order to manipulate us to choose what we are going to do and who we're going to vote for And Mark Zuckerberg in all sincerity he should've done a lot better than he did in that CNN interview He didn't seem as sorry as he needs to be For what he's done for the American public and by the way globally What he has done is well No problem meeting with the Kremlin, no problem meeting with China. I 100% think he should be talking in front of Congress and we can get to the bottom of this. They have ultimate power 75 percent of American population is on this if we just want to continue having our elections manipulated with them fantastic but i personally don't think that's what happened

1:37:14 So what is the answer? Is it deleting Facebook, is not using Facebook? I think its regulating. Yes. Regulating. How about thinking ahead of technology? This is a growing area they were pioneers that's why we're all there so I don't think going back... How about regulating yourself? Shut up whoopee with your voice of reason go away. That's no good We can't use that in this segment now I'm wrapping this up with The whistleblower the way that is such a great That's one of your best finds on because it actually has a lot of depth to it especially with their control room thing Just I was trying yeah, no I know you know I didn't say ya know but I thought I did um

CHAPTER 23 / 36 Discussion

Don Lemon Interview, Christopher Wylie, and Strip Club Anecdotes

In an interview with Don Lemon, Christopher Wylie attempted to discredit Cambridge Analytica by claiming the company used "honey traps" and strip clubs to secure contracts. Wylie's assertion that he was the "only gay guy in London" with a strip club membership was mocked as a naive misunderstanding of standard, albeit sleazy, business entertainment practices. The interview is seen as a failing attempt to secure a book deal through sensationalism.

don lemon· christopher wylie· cambridge analytica· strip clubs· business culture

1:37:58 I'm gonna give you a clip of the day for that. Oh, okay Thank you And it was I knew that we would figure it out together on the show But it just hit me all of us like oh That's what the segment was supposed to be do I delete Facebook or not because this is also a meme hashtag delete Facebook We got Elon Musk and deleted face bag from whatever or deleted the Tesla face bag Account sign there's another company SpaceX yeah which is You know, very very dangerous thing to do if you're a Silicon Valley mogul. That shit will come back to you my friend that shit will come back so we're the whistleblower Mr.. Mr.. Wiley mr.. Wiley the jamonk with the pink hair the nose ring which is all fine But yeah come on Come on. Come on he makes of the mistake of going on The Overnight Sensation show Don Lemon and

1:38:53 And a fabulous conversation ensued. Alexander Nixon, you speak up says when the report... Hold on stop I want to remind people from a previous show because you might be just coming out under a snowdrift This guy was at Cambridge Analytica and quit long before any of this stuff happened and all he's doing is speculating for some reason By speculating he's become a whistleblower and it's very obvious. He's doing this for political motives He said I'll just call him an operative. He certainly has friend someone is talking to him friends or whatever informal or not, and His job is to tie Cambridge Analytica to Russia That's his by the way job that the fact that they have to use him Is how weak?

1:39:49 the entire bit is. The gambit, the gambit has... The best you can do is this guy? Yeah I mean you could have gotten a lot of people Now he needs to discredit Cambridge Analytica as a reputable outfit and they may be completely horrible, I don't know. I know they fired their head guy over that video Which was sleazy not uncommon in political operations, but sleazy and so no No We're we're legit But listen to how he brings it all together with Don Lemon and it And it gets really uncomfortable And I might want to say it's kind of obvious but not everyone knows Don lemon is gay and Mr. Wiley the whistleblower wily whistle blower is also gay Alexander Nixie you speak up says when the reporter

1:40:39 Posing as a prospective client, turn the conversation to entrapment and corruption. The executives left with grave concerns and did not meet with him again." Nix added this at Cambridge Analytica does not condone or engage in entrapment bribes of so-called honey traps nor does it use untrue material for any purpose So my question I see you're shaking your head there that you don't believe it The question is what does all this say about the techniques that they use? Well, let me put it this way. I'm probably the only gay guy in London that had a membership card to a strip club with women And i will dispute that? This is bullshit There's tons of gay guys who go to female strip clubs Yeah I'm reliably informed Pretty sure But he makes us a point like its so obvious I think the LGBTQIAPK community should be up in arms against this guy

1:41:35 Meaning? Meaning that this was a common technique used. You know, that we... I would be on strip clubs all the time. I need you to be more specific. You said you were the only gay guy in London with a membership to a strip club What do you mean by that? Be more explicit Um..you know One of things this company does is it will do whatever it takes To get a contract This is what I love! Dude Have you ever been in business? Have you ever been to a bank? Business is done in the strip clubs. Did you notice he says, Gah? He says what? Gah.

1:42:23 Yeah, to get a. Get a? Oh instead of get a contract. So first of all by just saying things that are patently untrue... No gay guy goes through a strip bar! If you're selling stuff you will my god I had bankers trust as a client yeah if we wanted to get a contract you got it got two scores That's how the deal is done. And we'd pick up the damn tab and write it off! So yeah, oh how horrible these people must be? One of the things that this company does is... It will do whatever it takes to get a contract and if that means entertaining a client at a strip club with women stripping they will do that. Because that's the worst thing for a gay guy ever?!

1:43:17 Oh, gay guys heads would explode. There's more gay guys backstage at the strip club than you know They're best friends, they're besties. A strip club with women stripping? They will do that Do you think Christopher that the Trump campaign did anything nefarious in this or were all these bad actions by Cambridge I can't speculate as to what the Trump campaign was doing because i didn't work on the trump campaign but what I do know is that... You see what happens whenever it comes to something about the trump campaign which he wasn't working there He struggles, that's why the stuttering. I can't speculate as to what the Trump campaign was doing because i didn't work on the trump campaign but what i do know is that you know there is a perverse company culture inside of Cambridge Analytica and as the undercover shows they're willing to go to extreme lengths

1:44:14 to service their clients and they'll do anything that helps whether it's legal or not. Including sending a gay guy to a strip club! This guy is a wreck He doesn't seem like a genuine stutterer, you're right he's stuttering at the moment from the questions. He thinks he can go out and see... he did his big interview when should have shut up after that done a couple of written pieces No more TV. Get the book, yeah get your book deal. He's blowing the book deal right now! Oh yeah and the book deals done. Now thanks to the fantastic work of our producers I love you so much it is your show. The two clips that came from different producers I really wanted these

CHAPTER 24 / 36 Discussion

Obama 2012 Campaign, Facebook Data Ingestion, and Rentrak

A 2012 presentation by Carol Davidson of Rentrak reveals that the Obama campaign "rocked" Facebook's privacy policies to ingest the entire social network of the United States. Unlike the 50 million users cited in the Cambridge Analytica scandal, the Obama campaign had access to the full network because Facebook had not yet restricted "friends of friends" data access. This "smoking gun" clip suggests a massive double standard in how the media treats Democratic versus Republican data mining.

barack obama· jim messina· facebook· rentrak· 2012 election· data mining

1:45:02 And this is regarding the 2012 campaign and the face-back data used by the Obama campaign. We'll start first with, and these are pretty short, we'll start with Obama campaign manager Jim Messina And here's what he says. and we ended up using data to inform almost every major decision we did in the campaign. And, we had a singular goal to run a personalized campaign where you got a different campaign than you did all based on our ability to move you and persuade you to vote and support Barack Obama. There's 332 electoral votes that shows it worked." Well now! I think that's equivalent to injecting information into the bloodstream of the Internet letting it rattle around a bit and then influencing your decision

1:46:10 Now, specifically about this data and we know that in 2014 the face bags locked down the platform so you could no longer get this treasure trove of data which is the new bacon. In fact I just downloaded all my face bag data today because there were some viral thing going around that it actually contains your cell phone calls and your actual SMS text messages. I haven't found that yet, but before 2014 you would also get all of that same or the app creator which is not necessarily an app on your phone it can also be an app this is called a web app so those stupid quizzes you take can you recognize these top 10 songs etc

1:46:57 They used to be able to get all of the same information from your friends. Now they can only get the friends list, but in 2012 you certainly could good everything and The company that works with the Obama campaign at the time was rent track re ntr a K Carol Davidson of rent rack Explains how they did this and she's very proud of it This is in I think PDF talk what does PDF? It's like a takeoff on a TED Talk I don't know what the organization is. I never heard of it. Yeah, well it's similar to a TED talk. So Facebook 2012 election had the ability for people to opt in uh the Obama campaign like rocked this right we got people to opt-in and the privacy policies at that time on Facebook

1:47:41 were that if they opted in, they could tell us who all their friends were. Okay? So they told us who all their friends were. The Obama campaign just did this on a digital... By the way okay couple things first of all the PDF talk is probably an Adobe thing so this may have to do with Adobe one of their conferences second she's gonna do a lot of this right okay but you need to not mimic her because you're gonna miss the beauty of this clip I don't want you to miss a single word she says. Okay, right! Okay so they told us who all their friends were the Obama campaign just did this on a digital level and much larger level but we're actually able to ingest the entire social network of the US that's on Facebook which is most people where this gets complicated it is that freaks Facebook out right? So they shut off the feature well the Republicans never built an app to do that

1:48:34 So the data is out there. You can't take it back, right? So the Democrats have this information so when they look at a voter file and someone comes to them they can immediately be like oh here are all the other people that I know and here are people that they can help us persuade because they're really good friends with this person. The Republicans do not have that information and will not get that information right now. Now I'm a Democrat so you know maybe I could argue that's a great thing but really it's not in the overall process right like that wasn't fault all the way through and now there's a disadvantage of information that to me seems unfair. But I'm not Facebook, so this is the realities." There you go! I would call that a gun that is smoking They had the whole network That's a fabulous clip They had the whole damn network I am rescinding the other Clip Of The Day And creating a new one Okay This was expected You have to put that clip aside...That is like..

1:49:32 And thanks to the producer who dug it up. Yes, because that's not a new clip now that clip is on par with the advertising clip that we keep dredging up from then from NPR yes so you have to keep that clip in for additional use because this whole thing about the 50 million doesn't hold the candle To the data that the Democrats already had not even what is the talking about? Well, what is anybody talking about with that clip in mind? Yep. There is nothing to talk about you're done You just you're done it's over shut up and and even better that the Republicans didn't have access To that data and the Democrats will and the Democrats still have it Just as Cambridge Analytica

1:50:23 Needs to say we won't use it shouldn't the Democrats do the same shouldn't they destroy? It doesn't have to be some kind of yes, they should I mean that's in its and if somebody ever mentions it on the media If some reporter ever asks the question if somebody actually is objective and brings this up. This is a known fact Yep, so where is the where are the reporters asking about it now? Sure, play that clip now a reporter asking Podesta or somebody anybody about that clip. About what she said about the fact that the Democrats have all of Facebook not just a mere 50 million. Well from 2012 they don't have it current day but that's still not bad No well considering its everybody yeah everybody in 2012 is a big number yep

CHAPTER 25 / 36 Discussion

Personal Facebook Data Downloads, Native Ads, and Clickbait

An analysis of a personal Facebook data download reveals an extensive list of advertisers with access to contact information, including dozens of international affiliates of KLM Royal Dutch Airlines. The data also tracks "ad history" tied to native advertising and clickbait articles, such as stories about Siri or iPhone features. Users are encouraged to download their own data to see the "eye-opening" amount of potentially corrupted or incorrect profile information Facebook maintains.

facebook data· native advertising· clickbait· klm· siri· data privacy

1:51:25 I'm guessing 200 million. They had the whole network, the whole network! Yeah And when you see the data that they have on you? Man... Really?! What do you think they have on me? Zero Except for your fake account, which I know you have. And why? I don't have a fake account and why is that because You're not on it. Because i have no accounts. You're not on faceback. I'm at no account. I'm in no account. So there was what was interesting let me see if I can bring this up did I have this somewhere um I wasn't really gonna do this but There's all these different categories like advertisers who have all your information

1:52:10 And there's a huge list for me of one company except it's all of their individual country affiliates, I guess. Can you guess what that is? One company... One company has what? All- It has all my info- One advertiser according to the face bag data. One advertiser here. I'm gonna open it up now hold on second. It's pretty cool they get they hear ads Is it ads or advertisers So much in here John. It's crazy ad history add add topics How about this Bruce Lipton Donald Trump physical exercise Colt Cabana heavy metal music? Katarina American rock popular music I don't know, I mean why I don't know who Katarina is says doctor who I wouldn't be looking at that coffee houses Netherlands Christianity president the United States ring name antenna

1:53:06 Ronald Reagan, journalism restaurants. Bruce H Lipton PhD again who is that? Why do I have such interest in him? Toys fitness and wellness Wow here we go so these things aren't that accurate advertisers with your contact info I'll go down this list. Bed Bath & Beyond, KLM Nigeria, Airbnb, Spotify, KLM Finland Toyota, Nadelons The New York Times, KLM Norge Uber Eats AT&T, KLM Ghana, KLM Italia, KLM Denmark, KLM Dutch Caribbean Stop

1:53:45 I'm not getting what you're... for some reason, I've lost the plot. Advertisers with your information Where did you get? Where does this come from? So when you download your face bag information it gives you tons of... It's essentially everything Are you picking this up from your own downloads? Yes yes yes Every... In your download they have this information? Yes This is the information that you are giving away when you give it to anybody This is the type of intrusion. Can't everybody download all their information and look at this list? Yes, this is a good thing to do! Did you know about this before you did the download? I've heard of it but haven't done it

1:54:26 I didn't know it contained this type of information. So for instance, right above this it has ad history... Stop! I have more questions that you have to answer. Okay Does this mean that these people requested information about you or were you part of a group whose profile was fed to the following people? No I did something, I may have clicked on a link. Whatever I did and the advertiser got my information by my action. Now with KLM, I don't know if I ever clicked on a link or an ad but there must be 50 KLM subsidiaries in this list so they shared it amongst themselves I presume. Why would KLM Nigeria

1:55:17 Have your information. Well, how about Malaysia Japan Panama Polska Singapore Peru Chile Deutschland Czech Republic Philippines Russia India Mexico the Netherlands Espana Thailand Romania Ukraine Taiwan Canada South Africa Hungary Korea Colombia Suriname Why would they need that? Go on with the list. Well, what is what I also like is There's a part of the list is ad history and it says for instance Shop our per now hidden in plain sight now. I'm sorry let me do a better one This is because I saw there was one about the iceberg that overturned so as iceberg overturned clicked on add

1:56:03 So I don't know what I did, but I remember seeing this story pop up on Facebook. I clicked on the story. I read the story Somehow I clicked on an ad and so now no how about this? It was a native ad it was the yeah That's that's the only answer I could come up with I agree. Yeah, just story wasn't at ya Yeah there you go. I got duped you can't do it Well, you know what now looking through these are the native ads Jesus your I'm sorry Didn't mean to do that. Here are the native ads! The 16 lens camera that will revolutionize photography How to use a raw egg to determine if your mattress is awful 2018 Austin Modern Home Tour We did that, we went. How To Get Clients Who Can Afford You

1:56:51 Sixth graders unveil hedge fund secret. These are all native ads! Of course they are, you're like a sucker I tested out the world's first off-the-shelf mesh net creator The guy who photographs luxury planes for mega billionaires Women described 14 years of Austin Opera maestros lewd talk and touches that was a native ad? A clickbait Wow Let's see, experts say this will be a national nightmare. Hotel workers... That's really old-fashioned clickbait you should just click that. Hotel workers reveal what most guests probably know I knew that was the click bait. This is actually click bait more than native ad. Well it could most

1:57:42 Well, that's an interesting point you just made Which is is there a difference between clickbait and native advertising? Well here's what I'm seeing looking at this list This is a very typical one hidden in plain eyesight Handy features on the iPhone some users still don't know about so I'm presuming when I click on this it's it's an ad. I'm presuming my information goes to this advertiser of this story so click bait is Really in this case on face bag meant to get your info because the story was it you know I wasn't there's a couple things. I didn't know but I certainly didn't know I'm sure it says sponsored post or something like that Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sure it says that in small letters somewhere they have to I'm sure does that well sometimes who some table? I've observed this because I think clickbait headlines are fantastic and

1:58:36 is sometimes there'll be a whole slew of things and if you look carefully, the whole slew is boxed. And somewhere at the bottom it says sponsored ads or whatever. But when you click along in there, it doesn't say right under each ad. Sometimes it does. Well how about this? I sent this article to you! The 7-year itch How Apple's Marriage To Siri Turned Sour That was clickbait Yes, it was clickbait and I clicked on it too. I want to see what they're talking about It was a good story. It was about The guys who started the company then they bailed out and they went someplace else It was definitely not native ad in there in the classic sense. It was just click bait now Here's where I beat the system And I'm happy to see this under the heading information submitted to lead ads and pages platform I wonder what that means

1:59:34 information submitted to lead ads and pages platform some internal Yeah, so I guess I took some action and it gave my information to the lead ads in pages platform what I'm proud of myself that the I gave a two piece of information phone number five five five five five five five five five five And my email is facebook at douche calm. So I did well on that Oh, so you sent them bogus information? Yeah. Bogus information now if only I remembered where i used that I could understand the trail a little bit better but it's fascinating and... It's fascinating stuff to look at and I encourage anyone to do it Well how did what's the process for doing it should explain You go to your face bag you click on your face on your icon And then you go to settings and right there says download your face bag when you get all your data and then they send you an email

2:00:38 that your data is ready to download. It's eye-opening how much is wrong, I look at this and like...I never have interest in Kane the wrestler, I'm sure I've never looked up blues music Mercedes Benz? I think not Interior design? Yeah there's some stuff in it like Alsemere! That's a big one. Why is Alsemere on there? What is that? That's the town in the Netherlands we get donations from Well, maybe that's interesting. Well maybe some other people who will do this most of our listeners are face bag users I believe and tell us the other bogus stuff that's in there it is possible that they're putting the bogus stuff in there to attract... It may be a scam! What you mean FaceBag data is corrupted? Yeah on purpose. Oh well hadn't thought about that

CHAPTER 26 / 36 Discussion

Heather Nauert, State Department, and Fake News in Kenya

State Department spokesperson Heather Nauert discussed a new program at the American Center in Kenya designed to teach locals how to identify "fake news." The initiative, started by Ambassador Robert F. Godek, targets young people who rely on bloggers and "vloggers" for information. The program is viewed skeptically as a potential tool for the U.S. government to influence the "bloodstream of the internet" in foreign nations.

heather nauert· state department· kenya· fake news· robert godek· diplomacy

2:01:43 Yeah, Mercedes-Benz is a good example. They got deep pockets for advertising we all know that and we need million people to get an ad from us oh well you've got a million people that has shown interest in Mercedes Benz here they are including you Right? Yeah, right. Well to wrap this up because we do need to take a break I'd like to play a piece of my new favorite hottie in the administration Heather Nowart Although she used to be on Fox and Friends. Oh, I didn't know that yeah She was a fox she was with CBS She's been around the block in the networks as whatever that means Well, she's you know it's been a I think ABC or eight or CBS that she went over to Fox because she's got that Certain kind of a look and I've never seen her before this gig cuz I never I guess I'd ever watched Fox and Friends but she was on that for a while and

2:02:44 I like her. She's very personable, she completely buys into everything as you'll hear in this clip obviously and she's a believer! She's a fangirl! She's a believer in the mission... Yeah but she's not a snoot like those guys at Derby Well but she's mean to the Russians You know? She is very mean to Russian journalists That's because she's a fan girl of the whole idea... She's Dimench B really You know, that's I think she firmly planted in dementia. There is a question about The American Center, I didn't know these existed but put some information in the show notes. The American Center in Kenya. The Embassy of Kenya is starting a campaign to help locals to identify fake news and then and to help them to stop reflect and verify before forwarding any

2:03:41 misinformation. First on that and secondly, are any other American embassies doing the same thing? Yeah so I'm aware of that program that's taking place out of our embassy. I believe it's being run out of one of our American centers which if you If you're traveling overseas and you've never been to one of our American centers, it's a pretty neat place to go. It's a place where young people or older people can go and kind of hang out and work on college applications all that I had the opportunity to visit one in Bangladesh which was a neat opportunity. She used NEET twice which

2:04:16 Which means she thinks it's bullcrap. Warren Beatty famously told Madonna her show is neat I mean, you know the American Center is this clearly something going on with that which I think I can deconstruct And just to make sure if you didn't understand clearly what the reporter was asking I don't think they're saying neat means that she's saying bullshit Oh! That was my impression She thinks its neat What do you think is just a phrase an old sorority sister phrase? She's a sorority chick. Okay, and Neat is like something you'd say so the question is why I'm gonna throw away Why is the ambassador teaching the locals how to spot fake news And this happening in more places and this is a program as you heard her say that has been run out of the American centers which are neat

2:05:04 So I believe it's being run out of our American Center. The idea, the genesis came from our ambassador who is serving there and the idea if you ever talk to somebody who no offense but in their early 20s they don't know how to identify legitimate news sites. I have these conversations with babysitters all the time and they'll come to me They'll come to me with a piece of news saying, hey Heather take a look at this. And I ask what is the source of that news? and they'll say it's some blogger or vlogger who apparently is a podcaster star and I've never heard of them but you know I'm much older than they are so what do I know

2:05:39 The point being is that seems to be an issue, especially with younger people nowadays. Perhaps with folks around the world as well where they don't know how to go to legitimate sites or they don't ask the questions and verify themselves what the source is of this information so I think on the ambassador was just trying to help teach young people in particular how identify real news and how to identify fake news and so I think it's probably a good idea if its going on another embassy as I'm not aware Uh-huh. So I'm thinking to myself, what qualifies the ambassador to teach? What qualifies anybody really to teach the locals how to identify fake news and The ambassador to Kenya is Robert F. Godek

2:06:27 Well, I can... Born in 1956. An American career diplomat, career minister in the senior foreign service Has been the ambassador to Kenya since 2012 Before that ambassador to Tunisia Nothing else is known about our good ambassador A spot of the spook Spot of the spook Everybody wants to spot the spook. Yep, that's where these spooks go to rest and die as an ambassadorship This guy looks the business too I just thought that was kind of interesting That there we are in every other country We are helping you identify fake news It's just a stone's throw from helping you put news into the bloodstream of the internet Wow

CHAPTER 27 / 36 Discussion

Donation Segment, Chinese-Mexican Burritos, and Knighting Ceremony

The final donation segment features Joshua Dilsaver, who contributed $138 after finding a promotion fortune in a "Chinese-Mexican burrito." Other donors include William Durkin and George Kunath, the latter of whom requested less vulgar language. The show concludes with a formal knighthood ceremony for "Sir Pinder-net" and "Circus Media Knight," accompanied by the traditional list of "No Agenda" provisions.

value-for-value· burritos· fortune cookies· missouri· missoula· knighthood

2:07:18 But it's a good one. It's neat you're on a roll. Yeah, it's me well. Thank you See you jinxed it well What we have What? What were you saying? In the morning! Oh, I couldn't hear. Joshua Dilsaver in Springfield Missouri is the first guy we want to thank for $138 and I'll read his note because it looks interesting... I ate a Chinese Mexican burrito tonight with my beautiful wife Amanda okay Chinese Mexican burrito well burritos tends to be Mexican so your little bit redundant there could have been Chinese burrito Wait a minute Burrito is what did you say

2:08:18 I said saying a Mexican burrito is redundant. Oh, okay yeah. No, I don't know what a Chinese Mexican burrito is? Well it's the Chinese... It's like that thing they have one of the famous burritos in San Francisco which I have had a piece of uh The Kimchi Burrito was an operation on 4th Street I think H-R-A-S I can't remember the name of this place but wow anyways I was turned onto by Butler So you call that Chink Mex or what do you call that? AdamXCurry.com I was waiting for it! Hey, if it can be Tex-Mex what's the problem? He says he found a following in his fortune cookie You will soon be singled out for a promotion Congrats! Woah! I don't want good fortune like this to go to waste So he said he boosted with a shot of proven no agenda jobs karma Alright Well do you want me give it him now? No give it to him at the end

2:09:19 He already got the promotion. Oh, he's gonna get the promotion. It's coming this is it's fact is it was in the burrito? Uh, it wasn't a fortune cookie but I think putting a fortune in a burrito That's a product right there yeah William Durkin and Greenville South Carolina And $133 and 33 cents Kenneth interesting do you see his email Says email no mm-hmm. No jingle no karma he says I work for the three dot domain What is that yeah? What do you think mmm? That's what I thought I'm gonna have to go get his email look it up Yeah, I'm sure if it's a 3dot domainage probably doesn't want us to read it George kunath

2:10:04 $110.19, sir ever! These are good notes John hold on I like your show i'm an old guy and do not like some of the vulgar language but one cannot have everything. That's Kirby at AdamMcCurry.com But one cannot have everything well thank you George I do try to temper it yeah he does believe me Sir Ever Sir Ever Sir Ever Sir Ever of the what? Sir ever of the what? $109.46 He says, Linwood Michigan. He says what? I'm no longer in a Saudi Daisy's place anonymous and Munich Munchen Deutschland. Hello Deutschland sir peep Slayer 5555 by the way none of us is one on 190 Sir Peeps layer to defy 55 he says jobs karma. I'm so broke. I could almost be a podcaster there you go coming up love it

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CHAPTER 28 / 36 Discussion

Earth Hour Global Observance, Media Clogging

Cities around the world, including Paris and Hong Kong, observed "Earth Hour" by turning off lights for sixty minutes. The event received minimal coverage in the U.S. due to the news cycle being "clogged" by the March for Our Lives protests. The movement is dismissed as a "grassroots movement for the environment" that has little practical impact.

earth hour· paris· hong kong· environmentalism· al gore· cbs

2:15:08 Oh, I don't know. We were in Bryan College Station. I don't know. Did college station celebrate Earth Hour? No one mentioned it to me! Did you celebrate Earth Hour? I confess I did not Well let's see but some places did...I didn't even know about it. Do they turn off the lights? Yeah for an hour Huh CBS reporting. Oh, I'm sorry didn't know you had a clip cheese. This is No, I thought it was just an offhanded comment all around the world cities have been going dark tonight to mark Earth Hour from the Eiffel Tower in Paris To New Delhi's India Gate War Memorial to the skyline in Hong Kong lights went out for one hour at 830 local time

2:15:53 Organizers call it the world's largest grassroots movement for the environment. And the earth chuckled in delight. Ha ha, you stupid slaves! I'd like to know if Austin did anything? Oh, I'm sure they did. Around here I didn't see anything happening. In a liberal state of California...I don't remember this I saw no PR. The news was clogged, you said it yourself there was no way. There's too much attention to the kids so we couldn't even talk about Earth Hour. Couldn't get anything in. I'm sure Al Gore is pissed! Hey this omnibus bill and no one has know what that means other than it's all the shit everybody wants... In fact one thing I found out, one of the things elements of the bill

CHAPTER 29 / 36 Discussion

Omnibus Spending Bill, Military Funding, and The Cloud Act

President Trump signed a $1.3 trillion omnibus spending bill, citing the need to reverse "deep defense cuts" despite his personal disappointment with the legislation. Tucked inside the bill was the "Cloud Act," which requires electronic communication providers to disclose data to the government regardless of whether it is stored in the U.S. or overseas. This act is seen as a massive expansion of the "Five Eyes" surveillance network.

omnibus bill· donald trump· pentagon· cloud act· data privacy· surveillance

2:16:43 They put in this bill, by the way I do have Trump on the budget little short clip when he came out and made a special announcement. Well let's do that first we probably found it right but let's listen to this shorty Create a series of...that nobody has been able to read because it was just done now you tell me who can read that quickly takes a long time to read it for the last eight years deep defense cuts have undermined our national security How old are and they just if you look at what's taken out, they've hallowed our readiness as a military unit and put America at really grave risk.

2:17:22 My highest duty is to keep America safe. Nothing more important, the omnibus bill reverses... No I'm tired of it! No that's not your highest duty you're supposed to uphold and defend the Constitution you douche! Dangerous defense as crazy as it's been As difficult as its been As much opposition to the military as we've had from the Democrats And it has been tremendous I try to explain to them, you know the military is for Republicans and Democrats and everybody else. It's for everybody but we have tremendous opposition to creating really what will be by far the strongest military that we've ever had We've had that from the Democrats so if we take something for the military they want something in many cases things that are really

2:18:20 a wasted sum of money. It's not right, and it's very bad for our country." I'm very disappointed in this whole thing First of all 700 billion dollars! Brown people who live in sandy areas You're gonna be tested on this is horrible. I despise sending my money for this Really pisses me off, and then well I wouldn't mind it one bit if they'd actually Audit the Pentagon and audit the Army Navy Air Force Marines here's you know They're just throwing money away. There's corrupt. Here's where I'm conflicted. Here's where I'm conflicted I also know at the same time where that money is going to

2:19:04 Because, you know this is what we do. We're a war machine making country! I mean the defense industry is it's got to be our biggest. I mean next to pharma... It's gotta be really big And, you know and it's not just for stuff that we're gonna use. We sell a lot of it until but I'm...I don't like it and then and then for the president to say well because we needed that now my first job is to make sure everyone safe bullcrap no uphold and defend the Constitution yeah so you know because I got to do that we all gotta be safer we gotta give those douches everything they want including The Cloud Act

2:19:51 Oh, well this is not the one I picked out but what's the cloud act? Ah they snuck this in. They snuck a lot of stuff in. Clarifying Lawful Overseas Use of Data Act The Cloud Act and what this does...I can read it verbatim if you're interested but required preservation and disclosure of communications and records A provider of electronic communication service or remote computing service, that is everything from the face bag to noagendasocial.com shall comply with the obligations of this chapter to preserve backup or disclose the contents of a wire or electronic communication and any record or other information pertaining to a customer or subscriber

2:20:37 with such providers possession, custody or control regardless of whether such communication record or other information is located within or outside the United States. As a part of this any country which has an agreement they have the... what is it? What do they call this? This a certain type of agreement they call it executive agreement or something with another country That company then has to give that information to the other country when we're when requested So we're just opening it all up. So now face bag if someone comes along and says yeah We don't like that curry here in Holland Give us all this information there not only are they do have to do it, but they're required to have it

CHAPTER 30 / 36 Discussion

Craigslist Personals Shutdown, Hookers, and S3 Buckets

Following the passage of anti-sex trafficking legislation (FOSTA-SESTA), Craigslist shut down its personals section. This has forced sex workers to find new ways to advertise, such as using coded language in "items for sale" listings or creating independent websites. The shift highlights the difficulty of censoring the internet, as users can easily move to Amazon S3 buckets or other decentralized hosting services.

craigslist· sesta· fosta· hookers· amazon s3· internet censorship

2:21:28 Yeah, this is stupid. It's just a massive... it's like the surveillance stuff that's going on. It's Five Eyes expanding taking over all the social networks and in meantime Craigslist has turned off all the personal ads there goes our hooker, our backup hooker list Well as somebody pointed out at the dinner table when are they when are the hookers gonna go back into their regular scene where there's no personals and you're gonna be under their house for sale. Wait a minute, explain this gambit? Well the gambit is you go into the regular camera for sale uh you would use you have a Nikon for sale and then you use coded language to indicate that you're a hooker which is the way it used to be done in the newspapers

2:22:26 The coded language, I think a lot of the good coded language is lost. Because it wasn't necessary. Lost? Oh! I thought that was to the headline. Lost. Good man looking for... Coded language for hookers. Well in the UK don't they still put their little flyers in unused phone booths? I dunno maybe they'll put stuff on telephone poles with those little tabs you rip off at the bottom. A coupon Well, the travesty is that people don't realize that gee you could really can put up a website on this thing called the internet It's really not that hard. You know, you don't necessarily need to use some service Yeah, you have an Amazon account? You can get s3 bucket and you throw some crap in there with a dot htm file And it'll work it's not that hard

2:23:18 these days, but no. But how do you get somebody to... How do you? You're a hooker let's say. That obvious yes What are you gonna do to get your business going because you need customers and probably need well there still no law against search engines don't have to obfuscate this So I think that you can certainly get some traction. And so you can put like hookers in Austin and your search terms, yeah? And you're gonna get some hookers in Austin you think? I think so yeah

2:23:58 Huh, well maybe. But also you know how about a cooperative? Why don't the hookers get together and Gethookerz.com .org .io I don't care There is already a Hookers.com Right but make it a co-op so it doesn't really have to be at anyone's expense It can be reasonably anonymous You know there's a lot of stuff that...it can be done we do not need these companies! We just dont The internet comes into your house And so does the hooker Okay Alright. That shut me up! Enough of that... So I'm watching CBS this morning and they had, instead of Dickerson being on there. Dickinson, Dickinson. He... They had one of the other guys who used to do the somebody who seemed more happy? I can't remember his name but he's the other guy was doing the morning. He was doing the evening news before Jeff took the job over. But tell me that there's a woman from Atlantic she's like, I don't know she looks like she's 25 She's probably in her early 30s

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The Atlantic's Elena Platt, CBS Scripted Briefings, and John Bolton

A segment on *CBS This Morning* featuring Elena Platt of *The Atlantic* is analyzed as a "scripted CIA-style briefing." Platt provided rapid-fire, polished answers on the $1.3 trillion spending bill, China tariffs, and the appointment of John Bolton as National Security Advisor. The "slick" nature of the interview suggests a coordinated effort to soften the public's perception of Bolton's "hawkish" reputation.

elena platt· the atlantic· cbs· john bolton· trade war· china· north korea

2:25:01 And she's gonna give us all these briefings that everybody at the table knows about. So this looks like a scripted briefing, they bring her on as third party so it's not just CBS. Let me understand when you say briefing what does it look like she is doing on the show? I mean did she just given headlines or what are she doing? Yeah no no its not like they're doing any of that stuff, they brought a guest on And they start asking her these scripted questions that resembles, if nothing else it resembles a CIA briefing. Oh okay Now listen to it and tell me I'm wrong about this. This is a scripted brief.

2:25:47 A staff writer at The Atlantic. Alina, good morning. Hi! Good morning Well let's start with the 1.3 trillion dollar spending bill which the president called ridiculous threatened to veto but then signed Is the Republican Party having a very difficult time coming up with a unified message here? Absolutely, and I think this spending bill in particular you have conservatives like the Freedom Caucus wondering if they actually have an ally in the White House anymore. Mark Meadows of course is the leader of the Freedom Caucus, the one who urged President Trump to veto this bill And when he ultimately did it they wonder if the whole drain-the-swamp message is ultimately a farce

2:26:25 China and these tariffs and the pushback as well, which was a big focus this week. China's already announcing some counter retaliatory efforts here What do you think this means politically? And are we really headed towards a trade war I think China's message was absolutely the most pertinent message We've heard yet in terms of getting one step closer closer to a trade war because it is China signaling that they know that these tariffs were intended to hit them. Trump of course unveiled the exempted countries which was a pretty long list, notably missing of course was China so I think to wonder about a trade war is not at all overstating what these tariffs mean Let's look at the West Wing here because we've had continuing shakeup but the latest HR McMaster National Security Advisor out John Bolton coming in

2:27:09 Does this signal an aggressive shift in foreign policy? Absolutely, because I think not only with John Bolton coming in who was the first... It's almost like saying tell me what the song is about. Yeah it's completely set up. Let's look at the West Wing. It's completely scripted. We've had a continuing shakeup of the latest HR McMaster as National Security Advisor out John Bolton coming in Does this signal an aggressive shift in foreign policy? Absolutely, because I think not only with John Bolton coming in who is of course a really prolific neocon with hawkish views on war. But you also have Secretary of State Rex Tillerson being replaced with Mike Pompeo who's also quite a hawkish politician so in terms of at least advancing and aggressive stance on war I think that's absolutely a message this White House has

2:28:02 What do you think the president is trying to achieve with this overhaul of his staff? What I've been told by White House sources is that Trump is moving towards seeing the White House like he did at Trump Organization, where if one day he's unhappy with someone, he feels he retains the right just to let them go immediately and shake things up. until he feels comfortable for however stretch of time he needs that to be. Unfortunately though, there are political consequences to that especially when we're talking about going into a summit with North Korea if it looks as though our own cabinet our own White House is not politically stable week-to-week but why message to put forth I think what you may be hearing is the talk this agency Talking Point version of chaos

2:28:44 Maybe I mean what she doesn't hesitate at any quick all this broad-range sweeping questions from one into the next yeah, not a Not a minuscule beat is missed and she's on it. I mean This is watching this with my judge is by this Anthony Mason Mason has took the show over that did that day? I'm watching this my jaws dropping because it's like oh First of all, this is some millennial. She doesn't even have a wiki page that I can tell and she's just like a freelancer over at The Atlantic This is not some slouch though! She just bang-bang-bang she knows everything And why is she there? But this goes on and it takes up a good part of the show I do have a Part 2 which continues this You can play but its not as long No, its half the length

2:29:38 It's just like what is, is this some new way of... CBS has plenty of people that can comment on stuff. So why are they bringing this woman from the Atlantic in and running this script? I just found it very peculiar When you mentioned North Korea You know this announcement of John Bolton if your following social media was like the end of days for some people announcing he's coming in But do you really think there's no question There's going to be a more aggressive stance on North Korea and on Iran I completely without question that we're going to suddenly go into nuclear war with North Korea. What is her name again? I gotta look her up now. I believe it's Elena Platt you can play the beginning of clip, of the first clip and then her name is more obvious. Yes, Elena yeah E-L-E-N-A P-L-A-T-T. Yeah. Elena Platt let me just see what her background is... You won't find anything

2:30:52 I mean, the way she does this is like it's too slick. Hmm...I'm consulting the book of knowledge now! Well, I'll keep looking while the clip plays. For instance? As Reena mentioned tomorrow, uh, the Stormy Daniels interview will air on 60 Minutes. This isn't-this isn't a subject which so far the president really hasn't touched. Is it touching him?

2:31:31 surprised that Stormy Daniels is something we're talking about you know however you want to feel about that in terms of the health of our polity it's not something that his base is going to take into consideration in midterm elections or even whether to re-elect him and 2020. Elena Platt thanks so much for being with us this morning. Thank you for having me! This woman is a ghost! Health of our polity she says What is that? Well, it means the health of the political system. The elites? The Illuminati? I don't know... whatever the case- yeah she's so she comes on and she does this and it's so slick! She can answer anything And she doesn't click click click It's just like I'm just looking at what you know now Is this representing with the CIA trying to tell us? Who is this woman? She's unfindable

2:32:28 Hmm. Well, she's at the Atlantic that's where she's working right but there's no bio There's no nothing know nothing and so why is she all of a sudden? They don't just bring nobody's on center yeah okay So what was the message here then let's just presume it was a message I got out of things aren't well, I thought the message was things aren't going to be that bad with Bolton. Which is the big story in Washington's they got rid of McMaster because they don't think he ever got along with Trump and he was a blowhard so they brought in the other blow hard which is Bolton And they're trying to soften the blow. Maybe Bolton's in there for a reason, maybe he's representing something? If you play the Bolton chief of... Bolton's Chief of Staff and ex-spook comes on with what's his name, the guy on Fox Business. I can't remember. When I hear him talk, you'll hear his name. He seemed like he was drunk

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Fred Fleitz, John Brennan Rant, and Lou Dobbs

Fred Fleitz, former Chief of Staff to John Bolton, appeared on Lou Dobbs' program to defend Bolton's "brilliant strategic mind." Fleitz also launched a scathing attack on former CIA Director John Brennan, accusing him of being a "contemptible" leaker who has politicized the intelligence community. Brennan's new role as an MSNBC analyst is cited as evidence of the "politicized" nature of modern intelligence figures.

fred fleitz· john bolton· john brennan· lou dobbs· cia· msnbc

2:33:30 Anyway, he comes on and starts talking up Bolton and I got two clips. from this guy, including first he talks about Bolton and then he goes on a rant about Brennan which I thought was pretty funny but let's talk hear this guy out. Our first guest tonight was Ambassador Bolton's Chief of Staff during his time as ambassador to the United Nations Fred Flights joins us tonight. Fred good day have you with us? Good to be here Lou This is is a friend of mine put it a great day for the America and and as well for the president It is a great day. John Bolton is a friend, I supported him as an intelligence officer on two occasions. I was actually his chief of staff when he was undersecretary of state for arms control and I can tell you that has a brilliant strategic mind

2:34:20 He is fully supportive of the president's agenda, but he is not a yes man. He will give the president his frank advice." But you know what Lou? That advice is not going to leak to the press! He understands the government bureaucracy which is why the left hates him so much but most importantly, he's a nice guy. Lou Dobbs. Lou Dobbs who sounded a little under-the-weather. Air quotes So this guy comes on and goes on and on, he's extolling the virtues of... Nice guy. He was a prick but okay. Later in the interview though this guy, this spook goes off on Brennan

2:35:03 And which I think is kind of interesting because of the stuff he says. There's also implications that McMaster was a leaker and people used the media to get their way within these offices, and Trump has to keep firing them left and right. Yeah, and he needs TV people. He needs TV guys and gals. Right, Bolton's done lots of TVs and analysts. Oh! Oh, I just had a fantastic idea. The best hire would be Maria Bartiromo I don't care what you hire her for. Bring in the money, honey! It wouldn't be a bad idea so let's listen to his John Brennan rant though because it's amusing You know everyone is trying to put this on the president The people who are leaking, the people who are disloyal to... egregiously disloyal Leaking national security secrets

2:35:56 This has to stop and I think John Brennan is an example of exactly the kind of person who, think about this. John Brennan the former CIA director is leaking every day still he's...this is a man if I just can't even imagine a more contemptible human being frankly in government service unless it's Comey unless it's Clapper because they have created a politicized intelligence organization that is continuing to operate post their service to the country.

2:36:36 You know, and it's not just the leaks. It is these vicious attacks by John Brennan against President Trump that have been constant, have been constant every time he opens his mouth he confirms the worst assumptions by CIA critics that is thoroughly politicized and out to undermine the president I can tell you most intelligence officers are not political many of them are heroes who risk their lives to protect our security but John Brennan is debasing Everything that they do I just want John Brennan to shut up and go away. Yeah, he's the head pencil pushers what he how is considered pencil pushers all of them Well we have to remember that John Brennan is now an MSNBC analyst and NBC paid NBC news contributor yeah to be specific Yeah, NBC has got something going on yeah, and CBS is gone quiet

2:37:31 CBS has gone neutral, which is what we heard with that scripted bit. She's everything was neutral if you think about what she said the mystery woman Yeah, she is a mystery see I'm telling I've been looking she's a ghost No, I have to open up LinkedIn and see if i can find her in there. Oh You're bringing out the big guns Yeah so then ABC is still a little bit anti-trump but CBS has really gone neutral it just makes It difficult...I mean I do get clips from them on occasion but its like theres nothing good that I can deconstruct and say oh these guys are crazy Well I got some light hearted stuff we can deconstruct

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Roseanne Barr on Jimmy Kimmel, Political Polarization

Roseanne Barr appeared on *Jimmy Kimmel Live* to promote the revival of her sitcom, challenging Kimmel's liberal stance by stating that the left has "moved so far out" they lost the middle class. Barr defended her support for President Trump and argued that Americans should want the president to succeed regardless of their vote. She also mocked the media's portrayal of Mike Pence as a "nutjob," suggesting it is a tactic to prevent Trump's impeachment.

roseanne barr· jimmy kimmel· abc· hillary clinton· donald trump· mike pence

2:38:09 Okay, very light-hearted. Kimmel actually Jimmy Kimmel Famous talk show host kind of showed his colors when he had Roseanne on Roseanne Barr and John Goodman, of course they have the Roseanne show coming back after 20 years. I believe it's an ABC show so he had to do it. You've probably heard about this what Roseanne said. I clipped a little bit of it but there's something Kimmel says here that I thought was encouraging And this is why I hit play and it didn't work. Here we go. Yeah, and in real life! It's like everybody's family has pissed off at each other for one thing or the other Is your family mad at you? Well, y'know that we had some pro-Hillarys and some pro Trump Right...and there was a lot of fighting Dan's character is not Did you agree with her foreign policy? Listen Never mind HER foreign policy How about Captain Whacka we got running the country here? Foreign policy

2:39:08 I'm shocked because i know you're a very liberal socially, liberal person in general. I mean... I'm still the same! You all moved. We did? You all went so far out that you lost every one of us. I mean seriously.. You are probably right by the way. A lot of your audience... See, I like that he said that. You're probably right by the way. I don't know if it was just filler. No, I saw the video and think he really meant it Well, maybe. He's definitely off to deep end But also she is identifying Dementia A and Dementia B She said you guys moved out over there That what she is saying to him We did? You all went so far out that you lost everybody I mean seriously a lot of your audience including me I just want to say this Jimmy No matter who we voted for we don't want our president fail Right

2:40:06 So where we have identified the discrediting of pants many times in the mainstream specifically on ABC with the view that Pence is crazy. He's has a mental condition he heard the Lord speaks back to him Obama Roborosa they say oh you don't want pants that guy's the real nutjob and here is ABC again in the form of Roseanne say Oh, you don't want pens Do ya which is I think we've deconstructed to mean a you don't really want to impeach Trump

2:40:55 But you certainly just don't want to do anything with this guy at all. And we don't want him running against us." It's up to us to make this government work, no matter who is president! It's up to us to do our jobs as citizens and if we don't like something let them know that you don't like it and then you've got another election in two years get out there and vote change it if you don't like it!" I'm interested to see if the Roseanne show will do anything in bringing Americans back together under the one United States. That's what it is called, the United States. Now the second light well not really light-hearted clip... Tina went up to College Station Wednesday night so I was home Wednesday night

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Anderson Cooper, Karen McDougall Interview, and 2020 Strategy

Anderson Cooper's interview with Karen McDougall regarding her alleged affair with Donald Trump is criticized as "low scumball" journalism. The focus on Trump's personal life is seen as a distraction from the failing Russia narrative. Furthermore, the Democratic strategy for impeachment is questioned, as removing Trump would result in a Mike Pence presidency that could potentially last until 2028.

anderson cooper· cnn· karen mcdougall· melania trump· impeachment· mike pence

2:41:50 Thursday, I'm sorry. And so she wasn't here and so you know but I'm just gonna watch some rum just gonna watch pooper and I'm watching pooper and he has a hour-long special with Karen McDougall and it's kind of irrelevant as to why she's in the news other than bow She slept with Trump too But this interview You should really look at it on on the YouTube's or CNN comm sure has it on the home page is You know the saying, when they go low we go high? I mean it's completely irrelevant from any political perspective to do this. But he is putting this woman on the spot and asking things like this... No regrets except for that fact that he was married If Melania Trump was watching what would you want her to know? That is kind of question you ask

2:42:45 of someone who killed somebody, you know? It's like... This is horrible. You're asking a woman who had an affair with a married man and cheated on his wife what would you want to say to her I mean this is low scumball shit! No it's really embarrassing for Anderson Cooper he should be deeply ashamed of himself. It's a tough one. Or say to her Yeah What can you say except I'm sorry I'm sorry. Um, I wouldn't want it done to me. I'm sorry You know was like oh what a dramatic and the panel was all oh this is so deep emotional And so really impactful half of which has cheated on their own spouses with their co-workers including you Dana bash It really CNN that that was the lowest thing i've ever seen yeah This guy's a dick he cheated on his wife We got it

2:43:50 It's like now you're just grasping it. Go back to the Russia story, please! They're just grasping at straw as anything they can find and I think Roseanne made a good point Because the idea that do we want this president to succeed was the theme in 2008, 2009 when Obama got in. Well you're just gonna hate on Obama or do you want this president to succeed? Oh Rush Limbaugh doesn't want the president to succeed and then he'd come back no I do! We all want the President to succeed these guys now it's the shoes on the other foot they don't want him to succeed they want to impeach him

2:44:31 Oh, well maybe we can't do that because then Pence would get in and be like God this guy's a lunatic. Even though I've seen no evidence... We did a deconstruction of Pence before and I see no evidence that Pence is anything but just kind of a quiet nice guy He's not out there. I don't see him wearing a big cross, but he also wants to send gays to uh readjustment camp or whatever the hell it's called which he never did Which he'd also never in fact he put in a bill to stop it to stop that make sure that would never happen so that he's missed he's Misrepresented by the media as some sort of a screwball when he's just a you know Just a pretty common middle-of-the-road character. I personally

2:45:12 Don't like the idea of him being in if they you know, if they got rid of Trump. Let's say Here's the dilemma they've got and they know it. And of course my basic thesis is nobody really wants to get rid of Trump, they want to keep him there as a whipping boy so that he can get more people to vote Democratic. That includes in 2020. Correct. It's a hedge for 2020. They gotta make sure Pence is not in the picture. He'll win again in 2020 which will be a huge disappointment. You'll probably take a lot of Republicans with him but let's say that they actually go their way Although it's almost an impossibility and got Trump impeached. They could get him to resign, which would... But if they do it after the 2018 election then the potential for Pence being the president extends a decade! Yeah that's right

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Count Dankula Nazi Pug Case, Jonathan Pie, and Ricky Gervais

The conviction of Scottish YouTuber "Count Dankula" for teaching a pug to do a Nazi salute is discussed via a rant by comedian Jonathan Pie. Pie argues that the judge's decision to ignore context in "hate speech" cases is a dangerous precedent. The segment also praises Ricky Gervais's recent Netflix special for its comic timing and recommends the documentary *42 Grams* as a "great work of art."

count dankula· jonathan pie· ricky gervais· hate speech· scotland· netflix

2:46:04 That's right because he'd be in for the last two years of Trump and then you would get elected as president and then the reelect we can get reelected one more time based on the way that the laws written And so far is only being president for to two terms, right? Because she would never make the third term It would just be a hangover and that potential exists. I don't think they're Democrats want 10 ten years of Republicans in the presidency. And that's what they're going to end up with. Put it in the book! It's been in the book. I've said that, I said this years ago We haven't checked on the book recently That's all Yeah we don't check the book that much So i dont really have anything else but what do have which is up to you Just because we ran the story of the gas the jews heil hitler dog The cute pug dog Jonathan Pye the comedian fake news reader did an outstanding no agenda type bit on it as long as four minutes

2:47:04 It's too long. Yeah, we I can play a little bit. I mean I have a long clip But it's a little more meaningful Well why do hey wait a minute cheap laughs remember is it funny? Is it gonna crack me up no no yes No Let me just tell you the premise He stands as a fake news reporter, reports on the real news that this guy who did this YouTube video is facing jail time by the Scottish court. And he expands on what the judge determined that context does not matter when it comes to hate speech and he kind of goes off on how wrong that is

2:47:44 Let me play a little bit of it and then when you're tired of it just raise your hand without talking. I'm here outside Airdrie Sheriff Court where earlier this week YouTube comedian Marcus Meakin, otherwise known as Count Dankula was convicted of making a grossly offensive video in the video he taught his girlfriend's pug dog to do a Nazi salute whilst he repeated the phrase gassed the Jews count dankula is due to be sentenced in April Right, Tim I want to talk about this. Alright, so some people found this offensive... understandable Some people found it funny The video got shared 3 million times on YouTube with lots of inane comments like LOL underneath Okay? So clearly some people found it funny What's that tell you Tim It tells you that both offence and humour are subjective Either way IT WAS A FUCKING JOKE YA CUNTS

2:48:39 And he might go to prison, okay? He was convicted because the judge believed he was inciting racial hatred. It's a fucking pug dog! He was mocking Nazis I'll tell you where else in history You'd be convicted of a crime for teaching your dog to mock Nazis Nazi fucking Germany! You'd have had the fucking Gestapo kicking your fucking door in The fucking EDL isn't watching the video of a Nazi pug dog going, yeah that portrays us in good light. Find me one neo-Nazi who is using that YouTube clip as recruiting tool It's a pug mimicking their glorious leader so yes it is offensive if you're a fucking Nazi!

2:49:18 Okay, you wouldn't like it. I knew well, I mean the guy what is the point of being so profane that you I didn't do you? I didn't realize how much he used the f-word and then to see word in the UK is different Yeah, but if that's beside the point, I mean He's just he's like Lionel from RT going on his various rants with with just an unnecessary Unnecessary. Profanity! Yeah, that's the worst part of it. There is no reason to put his sentence structure together like that It loses its impact and it makes you cringe What's interesting is we are actually censoring a piece of audio that is about censorship This is just beautiful meta

2:50:02 Well, I'm not censoring it because of me. I'm not censoring at all I am just complaining about it And I thought he his point is He just made his point and he goes on for another three minutes Making the point over and over and over again as that would I didn't and it wasn't funny? Hey, I told you wouldn't laugh at it. He does go into the what's the point he makes in the rest of it, is that when you have a judge determining what is hate speech and saying context is irrelevant he says its very dangerous and what he does... And really I wanted to hear this because in it he says how about Ricky Gervais? And I know you just saw the most recent special which I thought was outstanding. I laughed my ass off but.. Well the thing about the Ricky Gervais special was the unbelievable comic timing

2:50:54 He's very good. I mean the jokes were what they were, I mean that Ricky Gervais material is pretty...I don't know it's not that out...it's not funny per se but his comic timing and his ability to do callbacks at a moment when it's perfect It's...he hasn't done stand-up for seven years and he can do this? I was stunned by this special And by the way, before you... I get your point about the other guy. But also have to give you kudos because you did recommend something for me to watch which i have to say was one of the finest pieces I've ever watched it's kind of a tearjerker but but it was this at this 42 grams is one of the great little documentaries I've ever seen and just nails

2:51:45 a kind of lifestyle, kind of nutty guy. It's just great work of art by the documentarian and as one I would give you max kudos for recommending that because it was so...it was really great little thing to watch on Netflix Ending on a high note of you praising me. Yes, that's the best way to end the show All right everybody all of the clips of course are available in our show notes and a shownotes calm Go take a look at the Jonathan pie thing anything else You're interested in we've got the cloud act in there So we keep our show notes up-to-date use it as a resource and you can bing it being it dot io Keep your eyes peeled It is a show day you never know what will happen

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Sign-off, Austin Drone Star State, and Outro Music

The show concludes with the hosts signing off from Austin, Texas, and Northern Silicon Valley. Adam Curry references the "Drone Star State" and FEMA Region 6, while John C. Dvorak mentions a delay on the Zephyr train. The episode ends with a credit to Raven Gill and the "best podcast in the universe" tagline.

austin· silicon valley· zephyr· no agenda· raven gill· podcast

2:52:41 And remember us for our show on Thursday at Dvorak.org slash NA I'm coming to you from downtown Austin, Texas where we have one building less We're in the capital of the drone star state It's FEMA region 6 on the governmental maps In the 5x9 Cluedio and the common law condo in the morning everybody I am Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley Where by the way The Zephyr was an hour late I'm John C. Dvorak, we return on Thursday right here on NOAGENDA until then adios mofos! I need a cab John. Taxi!

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2:54:36 algorithms that would allow us to explore mental vulnerability. Any collusion, any collusion? Would allow us to... Collusion, any collusion? Cambridge Analytica obviously was full agenda because this Cambridge Analytica- Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa At some point he says bunghole and middle him his little talk here and I don't know why! Our delegation cast the following bound votes. Ben Carson, John Cassis Following bound votes Ted Cruz Bound vote Donald J Trump But we jitty We dab First stop Kazakhstan First stop Beijing Chipotle La Vita

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