Topic: Zapata Oil

The show's "value for value" model is discussed through various listener emails, including a German supporter who donates money earned from giving blood. The hosts address a listener's concern about accepting donations from individuals linked to controversial figures like the Koch brothers or Robert Gow of Zapata Oil, asserting they will accept support from anyone. Additionally, the segment features "challenge coins" sent by an anonymous donor from the NSA's 60th anniversary.

A donation from a producer renovating a hacienda in the Yucatan leads to a discussion about Robert Gay. Gay is identified as a significant figure in the Skull and Bones society and a former associate of George W. Bush at Zapata Oil. The hosts joke about the "New World Order" sending small donations to the show.