Topic: Sun Microsystems

The hosts discuss the nature of "plugs" in the value-for-value model, comparing it to the Howard Stern Show. They mention various products sent by producers, including Manuka honey and coffee. Dvorak shares anecdotes from his time at PC Magazine, including receiving an Apple II that Apple eventually asked for back and a Sun Voyager prototype that "blew up."

The hosts reflect on the 1980s marketing of "smart cards," which were promised to simplify life by combining IDs, passports, and medical records. This technology has evolved into the modern NFC-enabled smartphone. They recall Sun Microsystems CEO Scott McNealy's famous quote that "privacy is for pussies," noting how the public has largely accepted the total loss of privacy for convenience.