Topic: Saving Face

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton labeled North Korea's recent nuclear tests and military threats as "provocative and belligerent." Adam Curry mentions his uncle, Donald Gregg, president of the Korea Society, who emphasizes that the U.S. often underestimates Korean culture. The hosts discuss the importance of "saving face" in Asian diplomacy and criticize mainstream media coverage of the crisis.

Henry Kissinger stated in a BBC interview that a traditional military victory in Iraq is impossible due to the lack of a centralized enemy to sign a surrender. The discussion suggests the continued US presence in Iraq is motivated by a desire to "save face" rather than achievable strategic goals.