Topic: H1 B Visas

A listener who is a teacher-in-training provides an insider perspective on the STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering, and Math) focus in universities. The hosts argue that tech giants like Dell and Microsoft promote STEM to create a surplus of "American slaves" and avoid paying for H1-B visas, while failing to value the artistic and poetic nature of great programming.

Dvorak discusses the difficulty of bringing international tech talent into Silicon Valley due to immigration restrictions. He notes that Google's appeal has diminished as its stock price fell from $700 to the $300 range, leaving many employee stock options "underwater." Curry compares this to his own experience taking a company public in 1996, where he restruck the option pool to protect employees, a move he doubts Google's leadership would emulate.