Episode 999 · Thursday, 18 January 2018

Nein Nein Nein

A catastrophic emergency alert failure in Hawaii exposes systemic flaws while political firestorms in the Oval Office and unsealed Las Vegas warrants dominate the national headlines.

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About this episode

A false ballistic missile alert transmitted via the Integrated Public Alert and Warning System sent Hawaii into a 38-minute panic on January 13, 2018. Governor David Ige and Administrator Vern Miyagi attributed the error to a manual mistake during a shift change, though the delay in retraction exposed critical failures in FEMA protocols. Representative Tulsi Gabbard provided the first credible public correction while local news outlets remained silent during the crisis.

In Washington, Senator Dick Durbin and the White House clashed over alleged vulgar remarks made by Donald Trump regarding Haiti and African nations. The resulting media firestorm saw former CIA analyst Philip Mudd and strategist Ana Navarro trade barbs on CNN, while Representative Barbara Lee introduced a censure resolution. Meanwhile, musician Moby claimed the intelligence community recruited him to spread information regarding Russian collusion, and unsealed search warrants in the Las Vegas shooting investigation suggested the presence of an unidentified accomplice.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak celebrate the 999th milestone of the show by knightings of new producers like Sir Gatekeeper and Baron Isaac of Altadena. The duo explores the history of Polish vodka, the dangers of the Tide Pod challenge, and the absurdity of a $6,500 Kohler smart toilet. John C. Dvorak declares a war on Tamiflu side effects while Adam Curry prepares to open a mystery 20-pound package from Scandinavia for the upcoming millennium episode.


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CHAPTER 01 / 44 Discussion

No Agenda Episode 999, Milestone Celebration and Podcasting Freedom

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the 999th episode of No Agenda, broadcasting from Austin, Texas, and Northern California. They reflect on the longevity of the show and the support of the producers that prevented them from quitting years ago. The discussion highlights the freedom of podcasting compared to traditional media, specifically the lack of advertisers and corporate constraints.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· episode 999· austin· silicon valley· podcasting

00:00 Hey mommy, are you a douchebag? Adam Curry. John C. DeVora. Sunday January 14 2018 this is your award-winning givemonation media assassination episode 9er9er9er This is no agenda Celebrating 999 episodes and broadcasting live from downtown Austin, Tejas, Capital Drone Star State in Shithole Nation. In the Clunio! In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where 999 is the theme. 9-9-9 I'm John C. DeBorag Crackpot & Buzzkill In The Morning 9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-

00:42 999 episodes and there we are a lot of people more jacked up, but the nine-nine-nine thing than they are the thousand It's our number you know nine nine. Nine nine We've had so much the magic number times three correct And it's a magic numbers 33 so is more than that But it's a magic 333 number time story well in this you know where did it came from the Hitler parodies? I think I think that's where it started I thought it came from the walrus. Number nine? No, no the 999 is that when people were doing the Hitler parody video? Yeah 999 yeah i did that part yeah so that's where it started and somehow they're showing 999 n-i-n-a-n-i-n-a not 999 any i-n any i-n thank you for putting that out well

01:38 Well, congratulations for getting this far. Yes you too my good sir Thanks not bad at all took a concerted effort Yeah took his concerted effort but it took the support yeah of the producers to make it happen otherwise that's correct quit 500 shows ago No I think would have been 899 shows ago well wasn't it show 100 when I was done Oh yeah, you're done at show 100. I think we've had a good run. We've had a good run John we should just quit while were ahead What would i be doing if we had actually quit? That is the question. You could be a trillionaire and you don't know! I'd be a bitcoin millionaire is what I would be Could be

02:24 Mm-hmm instead no we are condemned to the lowest rung of the show business ladder Yes, the podcasting that's right where we proudly stand and you bring it. We know by you bring this up with people in show business mm-hmm They all are impressed with podcasting yeah well I have any idea why that is I think I do because they've all heard one and some have been on one And they love the freedom The freedom of it all. Yeah, the freedom of it all! Maybe... Oh I'm sure and now I'm not just talking about- That's when they say dumb stuff yes? Yeah I'm not just saying words you can use that you might not be able to use otherwise although I heard a big F bomb on Saturday Night Live last night that was pretty funny It was on the show? Yeah You left it on the tape? It was live Well its only live in the East Coast yeah I get the East Coast feed

03:18 So you get to watch it like at 10 o'clock or something? 10.30, yeah. Yeah okay. And uh... I think that's what it is. I think people are like oh man you can talk about stuff and this but we know all the benefits! Talk about stuff, yeah. But we don't- You're so constrained We know the benefits The benefits are no commercial breaks No meetings with advertisers Well thats not true Most podcasts have meetings with advertisers I presume Yes they do Poor saps We just dont Okay, well um it was a show day. That's it there you go. There's our celebration ladies and gentlemen Where's that little horn come on play the play the whole man? How can I we played the boom horn you know the horn that thing yes? I know the horns I keep forgetting how important they are for our celebration episode here there We go yeah Much better Now we're cranking

CHAPTER 02 / 44 Discussion

Hawaii Missile Alert, False Alarm and Emergency Management Response

A false ballistic missile alert was transmitted to cell phones, televisions, and radios across Hawaii on January 13, 2018. Governor David Ige and Emergency Management Administrator Vern Miyagi attributed the error to a mistake made by an employee during a routine shift change. The alert, which stated "this is not a drill," caused widespread panic for 38 minutes before a formal cancellation was issued via the Integrated Public Alert and Warning System.

hawaii· ballistic missile· false alarm· vern miyagi· wireless emergency alert· cnn

04:28 Gonna bomb Hawaii gonna bomb, Hawaii. Yeah let's start with that that was okay? That was really fun Now I have a number of clips, some local clips and uh... I got- I have one clip. Yeah we'll play yours then we'll start with that But what i'm going to tell you right now there's a punchline it ends with the kind of with the punch line or right where they're at right after it and it's just like is a head shaker when this is from CNN I believe Sarah Seidner's just the governor of Hawaii Sarah what did you get? So the question to him was how did this happen and that's what everybody wants to know. He also did mention that not only were the texts sent out but there were those, and we're all familiar with that when the television and radio beeps out that sound that this is an emergency alert... Can you stop it for a second? Of course I think before he played us we should explain what happened at least so people aren't coming in because i'm sure a lot of people don't know what happened

05:27 which is that an emergency message went out to all the cell phones, televisions and radios in Hawaii saying that bombing is imminent. And this is not a drill. Yes, incoming missile, this is not a drill. What do you call that system? It's the... Emergency network system. No, no it's the WEA. It's the Wireless Emergency Alert System which all of the cell phone companies and cell phone manufacturers participate in which no one is really happy about And I'll tell you, I can tell you why but let's restart your report so we get some more background. Sarah Seidner is just the governor of Hawaii. Sara what did you get?

06:12 So, the question to him was how did this happen and that's what everybody wants to know. He also did mention that not only were the texts sent out but there were those... And we're all familiar with that when the television and radio beeps out that sound that this is an emergency alert. Okay actually I have that from the television? Because it's simultaneous. I'll play that as just a little interstitial here, it interrupted this particular person soccer match viewing God thats an annoying tone The US Pacific Command has detected a missile threat to Hawaii A missile may impact on land or sea within minutes This is not a drill

07:02 If you are indoors, stay indoors. If you are outdoors seek immediate shelter in a building remain indoors well away from windows if You're driving pull safely to the side of the road and seek shelter in a building or lay on the floor We will announce when the threat has ended this is not a drill take immediate action measures refilling podcast May bring on feelings that... It's the same guy. We need to kill them! It's the same guy. Alright, back. There you go. That also happened and so he was saying look I am down at the emergency management area where this all happened there was a shift change of the governor said and during that shift change it was a routine shift change someone accidentally and this is how he put it

07:48 Yeah, you know the visual heard this yeah the visualization is a big red button. Oh wait It's just wrong on it should have hit the blue one bill What are you thinking? Yeah just a routine shift change somebody hit the wrong button what did I get a button when you shift chain? What are they talking about shape chair? I think was shapeshifting By the way, grammatically that works. It was a shift change. The shape shifter was shifting back into humanoid form and apps accidentally hit the wrong button. ...television stations as well as the radio stations they immediately tried to get on the phone with the radio and television stations too to tell them that this was false alarm um

08:39 But it took a while for them to deal with the text as well. I think there was also reaction because of course he himself did not know whether this was real or not so he took upon himself to go down to the emergency management with Bernie Yanni who's the administrator and try to sort out what exactly was going on. Now they do realize this has caused confusion, this has caused fear... They are trying to get to the bottom of how this happened and trying to figure out how to make sure that it never happens again. They have been proactive in the fact that they have been testing. They are the first state in the country to test their sirens, which by the way they had not used since the end of the Cold War so we're talking 20-30 years. At this point they're saying look you know yes they have egg on their face this should not have happened

CHAPTER 03 / 44 Discussion

Hawaii Warning System, Siren Testing and Resident Reactions

Residents in Hawaii describe the confusion following the missile alert, noting that while tsunami sirens are tested monthly, the attack warning tone had been dormant for decades. One producer recounts moving children to a bathroom and searching for information on Twitter while local news remained silent. Representative Tulsi Gabbard is credited with providing the first credible confirmation that the alert was a false alarm.

hawaii· pearl harbor· oahu· tulsi gabbard· sirens· emergency alerts

09:32 Yeah, now we know that that's not true. Actually let me tell you something that really galls me That this was thrown in because all of a sudden that's become public domain knowledge Which is bullcrap which is that they've never used these sirens when everyone on the island We've got letters from people they test these things monthly so I don't want to San Francisco every noon it goes off Aloha says producer Chris from Hawaii first I'd like to apologize for being a douchebag But I will change them very soon your value was immeasurable Now to the real story. The email you got from a gent who spent some years here in Hawaii rebuking that CBS story about new sirens was false, CBS was spot-on I'm born and raised here in the islands and can confirm we've always had a warning system to alert us of perilous situations tsunamis hurricanes volcanic eruptions on my island but the air raid or Missile attack tone and alert had been dormant for nearly 30 years

10:24 It was a huge deal here when, a few months ago they reinstated that tone and alert for an incoming attack. All the local news stations papers... The morning radio disc jockeys were buzzing about it for weeks! Then comes this morning we were eating breakfast with the kids and my wife showed me her phone saying look at this missile launch not a drill I immediately thought bullshit hack something like that yeah That's a no agenda producer right there Yeah. Then my phone went off, so I turned to local station nothing yet 90 seconds in while moving kids into the bathroom mom called while out and well out in town garage Sailing oh without well out-in-town garage sailing set a thing garage sailing

11:05 Yes, you're going to garage sales. Ah get it a joke asking what to do I said I said is bullcrap then the TV ticker tapes flashed underneath missile launch not a drill Okay now this is serious for the testing of our alert system For the testing of our large system always and only takes place on the first of the month unless it hits it on A weekend when it's the first Monday so this is not right With the family stowed away with a box of cookies, oh yeah that'll save... I pace around looking for any local news personalities to come on to let us know the scoop while i'm searching Twitter. Nothing from the state or local authorities or local news pundits for what seemed like hours it was only four minutes Finally a break on twitter! A person living in Oahu tweeted out listening to police band traffic saying a false alarm again a false alarm I breathe fresh breath of fresh air while looking toward the horizon for a bright flash

11:56 Being that I live in Kona on the big island and Pearl Harbor is pretty far away called mom gave her the new info saying it's Twitter so that could be bullcrap too But if you ask me all is good then Tulsi tweets and immediately the entire state breathed a sigh of relief Thank God for Tulsi meanwhile nothing from state or local officials for 38 minutes here's a compilage of a few local locals in Hawaii I was in fear of like, if i wasn't with my kids. If i was going to die and my kids could die what was i gonna do? I felt unease but i went into a serious mode and decided that maybe it would be a good time to take my family underneath our staircase

12:43 I was horrified, I was thinking of my family. My wife had gone out for a walk she immediately called me she received the same text. I knew it's important for us to be together at that moment It was really nothing i could do. I was in an area where I didn't have any friends where I could go to their home so I literally just sat in my car kind of worried that that wasn't for me because I didn't have a shelter to go to like it said It was an immediate relief, but also then anger afterwards that one something like that could happen and put so many people in such a panic. These people seem pretty calm actually after the fact they're like oh you know And then it took so long for them to correct the action to make sure that people knew that they were safe

13:31 I sat there inside the staircase with my family and our family dog, and started calling family and friends that we care about. And decided to let them know maybe It'd be a good time for them to find shelter. I woke up my little girl was only six years old luckily i didn't have to explain her in that moment what was going on she has a complete fear of such an event occurring already she got up we got my wife and then the next thing we knew it had been hoax, it had been a false alert My initial immediate reaction was like in my head I thought oh my god this is it

14:10 Something bad's about to happen. And I can only imagine if you got that, how that must feel? That must feel very very strange. I don't think anyone who didn't wasn't in that situation can really understand how frightening that must be because this is the alert system that is not a text message it pops up superimposed over everything on your phone It's, as I said it is part of the WEA which is a very low tech system as it turns out and lot of the telcos have not been happy with this for a long time. Let us go to... Can I go back on one of our by the way No Agenda response which says bull crap is probably pretty funny. I think its very modern.

CHAPTER 04 / 44 Discussion

Emergency Management Procedures, Two-Person Rule and Retraction Delays

Vern Miyagi explains that the false alert occurred during a "check or test of the ballistic missile preparation checklist" at 8:05 AM. The delay in retracting the alert was partly due to the lack of a pre-scripted cancellation template and the need for authorization from FEMA's IPAWS. In response to the incident, the agency has implemented a "two-person rule" to ensure no single operator can trigger an alert or drill alone.

vern miyagi· fema· ipaws· checklist· shift change· hawaii emergency management

14:58 If they're testing this thing once a month, these sirens. I'm asking our listener because we've... We're getting discrepant information. No thank you! You are already going exactly where we need to go. If they are testing these things once a month but there's a different sound which is what he claims that hasn't been tested since World War II What? What are they testing anything for? What were they testing it for in the first place? Are you what button are you supposed to push when there's a shift change? What does that button do what is it a button that does nothing that just says okay, we're all good You know I mean well the only shift-change button. I can think of is with something on a punch card stick your guard in there You push the buttons you're good. You're clocked in your clogged out in this case Let's listen to Vern Miyagi Mr.. Miyagi

15:53 Who was responsible for this? It is his team who is responsible. He's falling on his sword. I deeply apologize for the trouble and heartbreak that we caused today, you know We've spent the last few months trying to get ahead of this whole threat so that we could provide as much notification and preparation time To the public but today was something that would I regret because I accept responsibility for this This is my team who made a mistake are we going take processes in and study this like this doesn't happen again Let me go over, you were distributed today a press release I believe hard copy. There's a timeline in that. I'd like to spend a few minutes just going over the timeline. Yeah this is actually quite good because you will hear what's going on. Hello? With your timeline? At 0805 this morning

16:41 Our state warning point, which is my 24-7 operation group did a change of shift preparation and at the end of each... The new incoming shift will do a check or test of the ballistic missile preparation checklist. So 080... Now listen to this! A checklist John? It's a checklist Well, that's a plus. But this is one of the most basic things in all operations particularly military certainly aviation I'm familiar with it and traveling too by you and I have checklist You know you on your checklist wear a belt? I mean that's on your checklist because I know is my checklist because many a time I've left On the trip not wearing a belt cuz they put us some new fresh pants there tight. I don't notice There's no belt I get to the destination boom No belt that has to go buy a medicine very inconvenient your checklist

17:32 And so if you're doing a checklist, it's I do not see how anything can go wrong on the checklist but by digression and at the end of each the new incoming shift will do a Check or test of the ballistic missile preparation checklist said 0805 this tester started as 08 and 0 807 is when the trigger is pulled on the test the wrong Button was pushed on this test it went into an actual event versus a test so wait a minute What test were they going to do would it have been would have said? This is a test no because it's not a Monday So what I don't this is not credible whatever he's saying here right because they Well, let's back up and then we explain that apparently do they when he's

18:28 Trying to claim is that they do a full test every day when on every shift change apparently probably three shifts a day Apparently, I mean say the TV's interrupted with this is just the no but that's why it's unclear what he's saying They always do a test and according to the checklist and somehow the wrong button Which I highly doubt as a button But it's possible On the tests the wrong button was pushed on this test. It went into an actual event versus a test." Okay, so he's saying it would have been a test but not-not on a Sunday! At 8 10am we of course got messages in our wireless emerge system and the telephones and so on and calls that this had gone out at that point in time We started the recall or the cancellation process

19:16 At 820 a.m., Hawaii Emergency Management Agency issued a public notification of cancellation, at 824 am Governor Ige retweets our message. This is the best part! People are like, oh it's on Twitter... Just put it on Twitter and everyone will believe it. Of the cancellation notice. Twitter has better alert system than this. At 830am Governor posted cancellation notification on Facebook page Oh, please. And at 8 45 a.m., after getting authorization from FEMA's IPAWS integrated public alert and warning system, Hy-Yim issued a civil emergency message that... Now hold on a second he says he needed to get permission? To alert that it was not true? Facebook page and at 845 am after getting authorization

20:08 from FEMA's IPAWS, Integrated Public Alert and Warning System. IEM issued a civil emergency message that verbally alerted people that this was not... This was of... A missile was not incoming and this was a false alarm." That's interesting you know so there is a unit above that they had to get permission from to retract it yet- Well I think what he should have said Yeah, it was permission but it was like there's another system that to do anything in that system you have to ask them. Well no... Hey can we use your system? It's worse than that as you're about to hear in this last minute of this guy issuing they thought about issuing the alert but they probably all thought hey here's the programmers here's the dude named Ben

20:59 Oh man, I gotta do this. Well no just let me just type this up okay we don't really need to have anything to undo it because once we've issued that alert were all gonna die so who cares there's no easy way to retract in the system one thing that we have to work on more is a cancellation notice in this event Our focus now, of course is not to have any more false alarms going out. And by doing this we're working on procedures that have already been implemented the first of all the governor has directed that we hold off anymore tests until we get this squared away what has already put it in place is a two-person rule during a drill there will always be 2 people there before the button is pushed for both drills and for the actual alert

21:48 The other point is the cancel. That's interesting, so apparently there is no... There's only one person manning it whereas we know we have Actually a whole bunch of women are miscellaneous who sit there and wait, and it's two people have to do it But for the alert system is just one and that has now been implemented as to a two-person team place is a two person rule on a second Yeah odd isn't what you need two people for this To make sure that no someone doesn't press somebody can't do cuz somebody's too stupid to know where there's a real alert or not Are they pushing buttons randomly how about training one person to do her right? It implies that

22:26 And this is what a number of our producer lies to me that the thing is screwed up They should can't they should get rid of this system completely. A lot of producers said off This is typical. This is just Hawaii, man. Everything's corrupt and it's all these dipshits who are brought in—all nepotism. The alarm's going out? Yeah, there's that. We're doing this—we're working on procedures that have already been implemented to first of all the governor has directed that we hold off any more tests until we get this squared away What has already been put in place is a two-person rule that during the drill there will always be two people there before. They should have put the two can rule in, not... We had the two can rule for the room now we got to do person rule. The button is pushed for both drills and for the actual alert

23:17 The other point is the cancellation message. We will have a cancellation template that's already been inserted, whereby the cancellation message is already prescripted to go out and say that this is a false alarm and there was no missile inbound I have to emphasize at 810 AM right after this went out General Logan called Pacific Command to confirm that there was no missile inbound And that was our priority for us to make sure that word got out I apologize for this. This is my responsibility and my team. Please keep in mind that again the threat is there If this comes out, you're going to have only about 12-13 minutes of warning for an actual event. And please take this to heart." Now what's he talking about? I apologize for what happened. He screwed up and now he is saying there is a real threat out there, you have to wait twelve minutes or you are gonna die. Fire this guy! He's an idiot. Yes. That's exactly... Fire him! That's exactly what he's saying

CHAPTER 05 / 44 Discussion

Media Access, Strategy of Tension and Conspiracy Theories

Speculation arises regarding the timing of the Hawaii alert, noting that NBC News had been filming inside the Diamond Head Crater bunker just one day prior. The discussion explores the "strategy of tension" and whether the event was a distraction or a result of North Korean hacking. Experts on CNN debate the technical redundancies of the system while the hosts question the official "wrong button" narrative.

msnbc· cdc· diamond head crater· north korea· strategy of tension· hackers

24:14 Intentional or not, it definitely increases should you have a strategy of tension. It works! You know we had the CDC coming out talking about what to do in case of nuclear blasts and this was just recently... We have a button, we just had the big button, there's the button language in there which I'm pretty sure this is not...I mean I've tried to look at try to find pictures of the button. I want to see a picture of the button! Now, i'm always looking a little deeper see if i can find stuff there's always fun coincidences such as MSNBC happened to be there just the day before

24:53 The point I'd like to make, Richard is that this is a state agency that sent out this alert. It didn't come from the US military or we're going to turn around some NBC News exclusive footage from within the room where in the room yesterday Richard where this alert was sent out here on assignment with NBC left field our digital our digital video unit and what at what happens in the event of a nuclear attack on Hawaii. Civil defense estimates that only 10% of people, God forbid would perish here 90 percent of the people would survive and this civil defense system is set up in order to make sure people shelter-in-place stay in place and then stay tuned for alerts from that civil defense agency. What happened here was a massive

25:32 Now, he's saying something even a little more interesting. Somebody in the room pressed the button! He's not saying the operator or during this he's saying someone in the room press the button In the event that pacific command alerts the state of an inbound missile, uh somebody pushed that button accidentally and that went out to like the senator said hundreds of thousands if not over a million people here on The islands of hawaii a very very critical potentially catastrophic error

26:16 that was made by the state agency. What was your sense of how the process would work? Did you get a sense that it was very well structured, that the steps were very clearly delineated? I want to be really clear first of all Richard where i was yesterday was not Pacific Command but it was the Hawaii Emergency Management Agency they call it civil defense and their headquartered within an early 1900's era bunker within Diamond Head Crater which Ernie if you could come take a look That's Diamond Head Crater out that way, Richard. That is where this alert was sent from What happens is the US government and military detects an incoming ballistic missile They're going to pick up the phone and notify people who are sitting in this room 24 hours a day 7 days a week

27:02 They need to alert the citizens of Hawaii to shelter in place. That they've got less than 20 minutes, probably less than 10 minutes before a ballistic missile... By the way I do not believe that is the official CDC recommended procedure. Shelter in place? You gotta-that's for an active shooter?! Shelter in place is not what you're supposed to do. You're supposed to get indoors Yeah, they got too many memes going on so they're confusing shelter-in-place and active shooter we got a bomb coming in we got missiles

27:43 Earthquakes coming, frost is too cold. People are gonna die in the cold you gotta get inside frostbite in 15 minutes all I had to do was drop if you get frostbite in 20 minutes just drop that and then they got the whole thing. I caught this bit though on I think it's with CNN we heard the governor tell Sarah Seidner that wrong button push during shift change does that make sense to you? So here's the thing each system going be different It does not make sense to me, but I'm also on CNN right now. So I don't want to sort of have you know, I follow Twitter's I don't want people to have a lot of conspiracy theories coming out. No really? Okay. inviting it just like Oh God Come on conspiracy theorists here you go. Like a red red flag for a bull was clearly made

28:30 In normally you have sort of what the equivalent of dual authentic tool system. I'm not going to try and pronounce it, in which would have a redundancy in the system. In other words, you press the button that says are you sure you want to send this alert out? and you press it again. Yes, yeah of course in Microsoft would be retry cancel. The port retry fail. In the military and Homeland Security would have that maybe someone wasn't paying attention or not knew that's the first thing the second is just though even the second they knew it went out

29:06 It's gotta come back through the same communication channels because those people who received it are the ones who are going to be following it. Alright, Julianne let me stop you there just for a minute... Yeah let me stop you there because your making way too much sense and we don't want people thinking about this. Alright Julianne let me stop you there just for a minute because I do want to get to Steve Moore he is the man that knows these systems. Steve does the explanation, the governor... As opposed to YOU! The dumb woman! No, and by the way Julia knows these systems very well too. I don't mean to... Ah! Defend her! The chivalrous guy! You know Murphy's Law what can go wrong will go wrong you cannot allow a system to be set up that will allow this kind of mistake if a button can be pushed and shift change I mean it seems like every every shift change a certain button was pushed if the wrong button could be pushed and send this

29:59 Information out. It's an unacceptable system Yes, and I don't believe this I've tried finding information about the manufacturer of the system. I was not successful But I'm sure someone around my nation is just as fishy as it comes I'm just launching here yeah, well you're pushing the wrong button. Yeah, I don't know what I'm doing yeah You know I'm just sure they should have let her ramble on because she was on a roll. I'm just gonna be conspiratorial I'm just gonna say that was fun It's the strategy of tension get everybody worked up maybe distract from something else I'm surprised they didn't bring up what would I believe probably really what it? What it was Trump North Korean hackers Yes

30:52 Come on, boys. You got the North Korean meme out there? North Korean hackers! And if this truly were a mishap that would have been out there don't you think? Yeah it's almost as though knowing the way Hawaiians are... It's early in the morning and somebody is going off-shift they want to go surfing what's the best way to clear beaches and clear highways so get out with your board hit that button just take away so long malo malo We're going surfing. And a big waves, by the way and it is no coincidence now that you mention it or not that I mentioned about this surfing idea That's when the big waves are just about to hit because they're coming in to hit us on Tuesday and Mavericks looks like its gonna be on Yes! The beaches are back open! Woohoo! Yeah! Exactly So it was possible. Yeah That was good one though but only overshadowed somewhat by

CHAPTER 06 / 44 Discussion

Donald Trump, Shithole Countries Controversy and Media Reporting

Reports surfaced alleging President Donald Trump referred to Haiti and African nations as "shithole countries" during a private meeting on immigration. Senator Dick Durbin confirmed the remarks, while the White House and some Republican senators, including Tom Cotton, disputed the specific language used. The media coverage is criticized for reporting private comments as if they were public declarations, potentially ignoring other global news.

donald trump· dick durbin· washington post· haiti· africa· immigration

31:53 Shithole nation Now this is a gift. This is a gift from God I love the shithole story is the best now, I want to preface something before we start talking about this which is a gem of a story And it's great. Now, shithole is a word that a lot of people like to use randomly when they refer to a lot of different things not just nations but yeah I can see Hades... I can see somebody describing Hades as shit hole. Well hold on one second Report from NPR.

32:46 called boyoku and they work in the dark by candlelight so this is a full report they literally go into the shithole naked to clean it out they did a whole reportage by hand naked by hand. They get their toes down or something what happens no wonder there's cholera everywhere yeah so you know to take it quite literally yeah yeah that's a shit hole thanks NPR Now, I want to mention something because it's Dick Durbin who got this whole thing going. And no one has a tape of Trump saying it we've never heard him say it before. Before we go even there, I gotta go a little more meta. Shame on the Washington Post! Shame on them because now...now we look like douchebags

33:36 to everybody. I mean, it was not necessary... if you reported on every comment someone made in show business or...I mean come on! How about the top of Sony Entertainment talking about stupid blacks and lame-ass women female actresses actors? Let's go back to the Lyndon Johnson tapes But Lyndon Johnson was in the White House, I mean they have the tapes are available for listening. This is the same system that Nixon used later and it's nothing but profanities and unbelievable insults. Yeah, but it happens everywhere you know if you choose to report on it

34:19 Without context it's impossible. We don't have the context of it we don't you never heard that yeah? So but on a scale of how bad is this if the president had come out and said these countries are shitholes That would have been super bad, but he didn't say in public You know, does that make it doesn't make him any better? No. But you know there's other things going on in the world that need attention! Yes I agree with that 100% but we don't really know...I mean i'm not gonna defend a president but we don't really know that he even said it in private because it's Dick Durbin who has done this before. The reporting now is as if he said it in public. That went within 10 minutes. No the reporting has always been that when did he say it? What do you mean now

35:05 I believe except for a few early reports it's always been, ever since has been reported as if he said it in public. What I mean is... Okay you understand what I'm saying? Yeah yeah the report... It is understood by people as if he said it out loud that's in the psyche that's how people will always remember us remember when the president said Haiti's a shithole? The irony to this of course is that most normal people and I would include the two of us in that, would probably think Haiti's a shithole. And all Trump is doing is pointing out the obvious so what's wrong with that? Well here's the problem this comment was immediately turned into he's a racist oh yeah well you had to that's in the rotation it's in the rotation but it's a stretch real stretch and the crazy thing is you get a guy like...and this was definitely my favorite he did it a number of times I got the second clip

CHAPTER 07 / 44 Discussion

Philip Mudd, CNN Reaction and the Shitholder Hashtag

Ex-CIA analyst Philip Mudd delivered an emotional response on CNN, claiming pride in being a "shitholder" and referencing his Greek heritage. Mudd argued that the President's preference for immigrants from Norway over those from black or brown nations is rooted in pure racism. The hosts mock Mudd's attempt to start a viral hashtag and debate whether the comments constitute racism or xenophobia.

philip mudd· don lemon· cnn· george tenet· racism· norway

36:06 Because first he did it on the panel and then he sat down with the overnight sensation, Don Lemon. This is Philip Mudd, the ex-CIA guy who is not black. He's not brown, he's not yellow, he's not any other color but white But even though he thinks that the president is racist this is also against white people which makes it very hard to call him a racist But he really pulled out all the stops and I just, I love the guy for doing it. The way i'm proud...I am a proud shitholder if

37:01 internment camps, stayed in those camps as American citizens. And that's a legacy that we bear shame for today Shitholers who escaped Guatemala and El Salvador. Civil wars that we participated in built this country I work for shitholers who protected this country after 9-11 George Tenet is a first generation Greek, i guess he's a shitholer Jose Rodriguez was the head of counterterrorism at CIA He's a Puerto Rican, I guess he's not welcome I'm proud today...I'm proud to be a shitholder and I want a t-shirt hashtag iamthem it's us. I'm proud but that's a bad hashtag you said there was a bad hashtag imashitholder yeah let's stand together hashtag hashtag it's not about black people and it's not like white people from Norway

37:51 It's about the people who built America and we denigrated until we became ashamed, and we realized that is inappropriate. And were learning the lesson again today." I gotta tell you know...I said that i'm not outraged by this but others should be everyone can't be outraged it's no my position to be outraged yeah but what he said brought tears to my eyes because its just so offensive And I can't see how anyone can make excuses for that. This is about pure racism, that's all it is and to say otherwise its either being in deep denial or you're being cunningly deceiving. Okay just stop for a second there

38:33 So I think i'm in deep denial or i'm cunningly, cunningly deceptive. Because it is... after what Mudd just said ex-CIA guy who's white Catholic in action when he says you know it's all kinds of people from different countries that's just not racism! You can maybe say xenophobia but not racism. Well wait let's get your talking points you got your walking orders You know, he's got to stay on target. He is going to double down! I've seen these conversations that this is economic so let's be clear a white honky from Norway can come here but a black dude from Haiti can't

39:19 What does that tell you in an America that one what that in one generation called you a nigger? Well, what does that tell you Don I can show you that with that tells a honky like me We're no different than we were a generation ago And we're learning the same lessons that we learned when we call the Chinese man a slant-eye When we call the man from Guatemala speak and wetback and we call a black man a nigger. That's what it tells me, we got our ways to learn but we can step back and say were proud because I spoke this on CNN 30-1 the emails i got were saying you speak for us. Hold on stop! 30-1 that was the bet. And he just put that in there. What was the one? The bet he made with his buddies. What was the under over? Twice

40:06 Not what he does not only say it once I'll say it twice. I'll give you 30 to 1 odds That's right 31 pay up bitch, but we can step back and say we're proud because I spoke this on CNN Thirty-to-one the emails I got were saying you speak for us And we are not from Africa and we're not from Norway We're from Italy were from Ireland where from Greece every single one of them was from a place where they would say hey hashtag I'm one of them. Yeah, you know he's trying to launch a hashtag and he's an idiot because that's not a good hashtag. This sucks! I am a proud shitholder. But yeah i'm keeping this as an ISO. I am a proud shit holder. Nice now just to keep on the racism tip for a moment we had AM Joy Joy Reid MSNBC AM Joy had Jason Johnson on he's the editor of The Root

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Joy Reid, Identity Politics and Democratic Party Power Struggles

MSNBC's Joy Reid and guest Jason Johnson discuss how the President's rhetoric manifests in policy that excludes non-white and LGBT individuals. The analysis suggests that the "shithole" controversy is being used by the ethnic wing of the Democratic Party to pivot away from Hillary Clinton. Potential future candidates like Kamala Harris are mentioned as beneficiaries of this shift toward identity politics.

joy reid· jason johnson· msnbc· hillary clinton· kamala harris· identity politics

41:02 Oh yeah, he will explain the racism. I'm lucky! It's that simple. There is no reason to pretend... Oh, it's that simple? Yes, don't you think? Hey, it's that simple! That's not what going on and what important about this is not just how his heart feels because I've never cared about that and that's not what important. This manifests in policy. This manifest in

41:58 everything in his rhetoric and policy has said so, we will be in danger as a sovereign nation. We have to recognize that this president has made it abundantly clear since he got into office he does not want to make a space for non-white people to participate yes there are some people who are not white who were in administration but policy wise and rhetoric wise he's made it abundantly clear there is no role for brown tan yellow LGBT people in the future that he wants to create America. And I... That just like what? He just threw A color I didn't know existed. Yes, threw in everything and then threw in some LGBTs? Besides this being the LGBT thing which I pointed out in the newsletters also way in the rotation that's got caught up some guy quit but this is the ethnic side of the Democratic Party trying to take over the party they've used identity politics thing and they're using shithole politics

42:55 They're trying to take over the party and they're specifically targeting Hillary. Yes, even though they don't say it but they're targeting Hillary they want to get her out of the way and they want to take over the party they want to run more Obama was a good example look Obama won so let's just run black people or lets run Kamala Harris or Kamala whatever and that where this guy is heading his talking points are there like competitive talking points here What they should be doing is trying to focus, but they're not. I have a similar clip, different clip that you're not gonna have heard because it's only a local clip and this is about Barbara Lee she speaks for me over here in Berkeley who's a communist for all practical purposes isn't it? Of course she speaks for you as a communist. She doesn't really speak for me but that's what her nickname is because there's bumper stickers all over Berkeley Barbara Lee Speaks For Me!

43:52 Okay, got it. It's a local thing so here let us play this this is the dead-end censure attempt And I'm Jessica Aguirre tonight the controversy next week a plan of action to top house Democrats say they'll allow solutions to censure the president NBC Barron Katsuda spoke with East Bay congresswoman Barbara Lee who says it's time for Republicans to break How does one censure censure The President censure means stifle shut up be quiet don't talk I believe that the House can put together a proposal and pass it which condemns

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Barbara Lee, Censure Resolution and Berkeley Politics

Representative Barbara Lee of California is leading a push to censure President Trump following his comments on Haiti and Africa. Censure serves as a public reprimand with no legal effect on the presidency, unlike impeachment. Lee previously attempted a similar resolution after the Charlottesville violence; the current effort seeks to force Republicans like Speaker Paul Ryan to go on the record against the President's language.

barbara lee· paul ryan· censure· berkeley· house of representatives· charlottesville

42:55 They're trying to take over the party and they're specifically targeting Hillary. Yes, even though they don't say it but they're targeting Hillary they want to get her out of the way and they want to take over the party they want to run more Obama was a good example look Obama won so let's just run black people or lets run Kamala Harris or Kamala whatever and that where this guy is heading his talking points are there like competitive talking points here What they should be doing is trying to focus, but they're not. I have a similar clip, different clip that you're not gonna have heard because it's only a local clip and this is about Barbara Lee she speaks for me over here in Berkeley who's a communist for all practical purposes isn't it? Of course she speaks for you as a communist. She doesn't really speak for me but that's what her nickname is because there's bumper stickers all over Berkeley Barbara Lee Speaks For Me!

43:52 Okay, got it. It's a local thing so here let us play this this is the dead-end censure attempt And I'm Jessica Aguirre tonight the controversy next week a plan of action to top house Democrats say they'll allow solutions to censure the president NBC Barron Katsuda spoke with East Bay congresswoman Barbara Lee who says it's time for Republicans to break How does one censure censure The President censure means stifle shut up be quiet don't talk I believe that the House can put together a proposal and pass it which condemns

44:32 The president and says that don't do that again. I don't they can't keep him from shit They can is a different branch of government They can't make in sense sure their own people and kind of keep them out of the kick them out of a few committees And stuff like that Here we go, but there's much more to it than symbolism here with the president Yes, I have consulted the book of knowledge In the United States, censure is the public reprimanding of public official for inappropriate conduct or voting behavior. When the president is censured it serves only as a condemnation and has no direct effect on the validity of the presidency nor are there any other particular legal consequences." And then he does say in the next sentence that unlike impeachment, censure has no basis in the Constitution or in the rules.

45:24 That's just interesting that impeachment is right in the censure explanation. All right, let's continue sorry from the president Everyone especially people of color are offended by this but everyone of conscience every American Should feel that this president has insulted them Congresswoman Barbara Lee says President Trump's alleged for me about Haiti and Africa are quote despicable first thing that came to my mind was very unfortunate unhelpful. And she says this reaction by House Speaker Paul Ryan isn't enough next week she and other Democratic lawmakers are pushing for resolution for censure of President Trump Democratic Senator Dick Durbin says in the bipartisan meeting on immigration, President Trump referred to Haiti and Africa as a

46:13 whole countries. President Trump today tweeted in part, he never said anything derogatory about Haitians other than Haiti is obviously a very poor and troubled country never said take them out made up by Dems he also tweeted his proclamation of January 15th 2018 as Martin Luther King jr federal holiday now he was actually signing was it the the proclamation I didn't get a clip of it. So he's signing the proclamation for Martin Luther King Day and as he's walking out of the room taking no questions, there was one woman who kept yelling, Mr President are you racist?

46:54 Yeah, I believe she was with CBS. I believe. Congresswoman Lee is urging Speaker Ryan to join the push for censure of President Trump. And Speaker Ryan evidently appears to be his representative in Congress because he shepherds his agenda and so he needs to break with him now and lead. Censure would put the House of Representatives on record telling the president this is unacceptable. Congresswoman Lee says there was a similar effort to censure President Trump last August after his comments about blaming both sides for the violence in Charlottesville she says that That effort failed, but she hopes this time it will be different. Sharon Katsuda NBC Bay Area News.

47:43 The words of a president are very powerful words and unfortunately this president has used his words to demean and belittle instead of uplifting people. And it is deeply troubling, it is unfortunate and it is irresponsible. Uh-huh all those things in more Oh my goodness. So they're all getting their licks in, of course this is a local story because both of these women are locals and Californians yeah and it's just when they said that Barbara Lee apparently tried this before she's just like that green guy who keeps insisting on impeach yeah and gets nowhere why are they wasting the taxpayers money?

48:37 And their time, they're wasting their own time. There's just a showboating. This is pure show boating. Yeah but this is all that they do anyway is try to get re-elected make sure they get the coffers filled up so it's just part of their normal job as part of extension of their job its this is all lobbying for the 2018 election yeah well thats for sure Barbara Lee does not have to do that seat that shows you the kind of respect for elections they're having in Berkeley. You get that seat, you're in for life as long as you want it and just get voted in because that's the way the Berkeley voters are. Oh! The Democrat running for Congress in Berkeley? Good to go. Yes good to go. Anna Navarro who is a Republican had an episode... I forget who she was. When did she become a Republican

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Ana Navarro, CNN Commentary and Reality TV News

Republican strategist Ana Navarro engages in a heated debate on CNN, calling the President's comments racist and dismissing those who defend him. The hosts criticize the "unwatchable" nature of modern cable news, comparing it to a reality show where pundits yell over one another. They question Navarro's standing as a Republican given her frequent alignment with Democratic talking points.

ana navarro· cnn· republican· john berman· snowflake· trump bashing

49:32 I thought, isn't she...I think she's the Republican correspondent for CNN. Isn't she? But she is always going off to deep end with Democrat ideals! How can she be a Republican?! Well, that's why she is on CNN Let me see American Republican strategist and political commentator bingo boom shakalaka Okay, here's what she had to say. But you know what President Trump is gonna get that done but left is going immediately to the president sit there and watch the president's own words without calling John Berman a New Day ridiculous because you don't even have the face to be able to look at his own words. This program isn't putting words in his mouth, they're quoting him! That's him on video. Those are his words. He hasn't already said this entire life. Oh no I'm not melting, I'm but a snowflake. You know why? I am an American. It's not even springtime yet. Hang one second Anna, hang one second.

50:31 I don't say that you look like a buffoon trying to make sense of what this man is saying. This is about Donald Trump being racist, I don't care what you say! This is about the Haitian kids and the African kids... You should give him some credit for trying to get it done. The president just put out a statement. Oh, yeah the end of show mix will be spectacular Stick around peeps you might like it A lot of people bail for that and they should be listening. They actually do, they bail the last 20 minutes I am a proud shitholer! I know that because of the Apple podcast statistics tells me The last 15-20 minutes is when it drops off Yeah which you missed a lot of good stuff on the last show then However... however The dip in the donation segment is very minor

51:25 I'd say it's about... Yes, especially the first dip. About 8%. 8% for the first dip and about 6% for the second dip which is nice! Anyway back to Ana Navarro she has always done this she goes off the deep end and blows up She's an entertainer and I don't know what to make of it But I didn't know she was supposed to be. This is like the Brooks on the NPR, if you want to why don't you get a real Republican if you want to put a Republican on and let them try to defend their president or lem defend him? Or there's something...I mean we can't this is CNN is not watchable. Oh! I beg to differ. You can beg all you want but not gonna go for it. It's not watchable. It's beautiful people yelling over each other yeah yeah

52:11 It's like a reality show. Emotions are always fun to watch. It's great television, John! It would be if there was little more in control because with people yelling at each other and talking over each other nothing comes of it and there is no real debate it's just Trump bashing Yeah, but when they're using the word shithole over and over again. This is a moment in time yes now during this moment in time where they going s-hole should I say S hole or the expletive or shit hole what do you think? I don't know what to do!

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Major Garrett, Dick Durbin and Political Protocol

Major Garrett reports on the conflicting accounts of the Oval Office meeting, noting that Senators David Perdue and Tom Cotton did not recall the vulgarity. Senator Dick Durbin maintains the comments were "vile and vulgar" and repeated. The discussion touches on the breakdown of protocol regarding private meetings and draws a comparison to how Bill Clinton's actions changed public discourse on sexual acts.

major garrett· cbs news· lindsey graham· tom cotton· bill clinton· protocol

52:50 people from Haiti and Africa into the country. Describing those places using an expletive, the president said why are we having all these people... Expletives! That's how he started off. Shithole quote excuse me shithole country I wouldn't say that. Had so much fun this morning. I'll bet you did well i do have the CBS report And we might as well listen to that since we're on this topic. Yep! Let's start with Shithole One. Good evening, President Trump said on Twitter today that he used tough language but not the words others attributed to him during a controversial Oval Office meeting A number of those in attendance yesterday described the comments as profane and racist Today there was new reaction and new recollections of the day Here is Chief White House Correspondent Major Garrett

53:39 In the face of new allegations of racism, President Trump today signed a proclamation honoring Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.. No matter what the color of our skin or the place of our births we are all created equal by God and ignored reporters' questions. Mr. President while you were raising... Oh! You got it nice! During a White House Oval Office meeting on immigration yesterday The president allegedly said that Haiti El Salvador and countries in Africa Why do we want all these people from expletive countries here? We should bring in more people from places like Norway. On Twitter today he wrote, this was not the language used although the president did not specify what language he was referring to

54:23 He added, never said anything derogatory about Haitians other than Haiti is obviously a very poor and troubled country. It is not true he said these hate-filled things and he said them repeatedly Illinois Democratic Senator Dick Durbin attended the meeting. He used his vile and vulgar comments calling the nations they come from The exact word used by the president, not more, not just once but repeatedly. Germans said South Carolina Republican Lindsey Graham pushed back against the President in a statement Graham said I said my piece directly to him But his fellow Republican senators David Perdue and Tom Cotton said they quote did not recall Mr Trump using of vulgarity both are stalwart supporters of the president Huh

55:12 I cut that there because I wanted to point out the kind of bias that was in this report, which is that he would – Cotton and the other guy said that this didn't happen. Were identified as Trump supporters, but Dick Durbin was not identified as an anti-trump non trump. Yes good point and So this was very slanted ended And it was very vague about the Lindsey Graham thing which some reports is he confirmed it But it doesn't sound like it to me says you talked to the president directly, and that's the end of it so this is a very sketchy Yeah, to say the least. Very sketchy reporting a very slanted is just trying to get this... Second time you've used the slant word careful! You can't end up with this, trying to keep the pot boiling about racism and in Trump rotation now

56:08 I want to mention here, Dick Durbin has been caught in the past during the Obama administration. He pulled one of these things where he said something happened. Oh! Well he claimed that one of the congressmen chewed out the president in this private meeting and says, I can't look you in the face and said some other stuff. The...I don't know who the representative was because it wasn't named in the reports but he denied it and the White House denied it. Obama denied it said it never happened. But Durbin's the one who said it, so Durbin seems to have a track record for bringing out what happened in a private meeting as some obscurity and I think this is just...I mean it's beautiful because everyone believes him. But here's the thing they want to believe the worst In general whenever you have a private meeting with the president

57:00 Your answer is, well whatever was discussed with the president in private stays that way. Yeah it's supposed to. That's protocol. Of course not calling people country shitholes is protocol too! I can hear him saying it I can hear him say that's the problem. This is one of those situations like some hoaxes that we've seen over late where it's so believable, borderline guerrilla TV It's so believable to some people especially the Dimension B people that yes We're in! We're all in on this. Yes like the book But it's even believable to The Trumpers although somewhat counterproductive because The Trumpers probably say

57:45 Yeah, they are shitholes. So what? Which is what you're a that's you and I like Haitians their country is a literal shit hole. I'm gonna stick with that he didn't actually say it It's possible. It's possibly he didn't then He says he didn't and everybody did but he did witnesses say he didn't deny saying that in his tweet He said these other things were made up. He didn't say the shithole comment was made. No, his tweet was very... it was not worded correctly for him to completely get out of this. You're right he never said I didn't use the word shit hole you can't say that! He may have used the word shit hole but not necessarily the way Durbin interpreted it or said he did. But for sure we must thank the president for allowing us to use the word and what words could be next?

58:39 You know, this is like people when they talk about the president being the moral authority of the country. He is so when he uses shithole even if we didn't but now that we all think he did That means we can all use the word and this reminds me again I'll mention Clinton Bill Clinton has had legalized blowjobs from young women and because it's not sex no And so blowjobs became very popular and remains so. Or as the t-shirt says, eatin' ain't cheatin'. And there you go. Onward to Part Two.

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African Union, Clinton Foundation and Media Distractions

The African Union and several individual nations, including Botswana and Senegal, formally complained about President Trump's remarks. The hosts suggest the controversy might be a distraction from a reported indictment involving the Clinton Foundation and financial issues in Australia. They also mention Anderson Cooper's emotional tribute to Haiti as an example of media theater.

african union· robert mugabe· clinton foundation· botswana· senegal· anderson cooper

59:41 Very fine people on both sides. The president has been accused of making racially charged comments before last summer he sparked controversy over his reaction to violence at a white supremacist march in Virginia And during the campaign, his calls for a Muslim ban and attacks on a Mexican-American judge drew condemnation. But they're saying is Donald Trump racist? I am the least racist person that you've ever looked at believe me. Governments in Haiti, Botswana and Senegal requested meetings with U.S. Embassy representatives in those countries to formally complain about Mr. Trump's remarks and the African Union which represents 55 countries on the continent

1:00:23 said the president's remarks dishonor respect for human dignity. Jeff? Major, thank you very much I'm just still stuck on the racist part and i just don't see how you get that well i can see where they can make this stretch but im gonna bring one other little point up just... You gotta remember the African Union was led by Mugabe if anybody is a bad actor it's that guy anyway but thats ok we'll use it because it serves our purposes Yeah, no I don't see it either but saying Haiti's a shithole doesn't mean you're racist. And it was not entirely clear that it was about Haiti in the first place and that came a little later. Yeah none of its clear because we don't have tape, we don't know what really went on this is all speculation turned into a mountain to a molehill. I have for example listened to Alex Witt... But hold on why Haiti? What were they talking about with hate in regards to Haiti?

1:01:25 Well, the immigrants who come from Haiti tend to be really good workers and fine Americans. So I don't know if it was about that. It has to do with the Clinton Foundation personally and I think this is a distraction That's possible because there is an indictment now of The Clinton Foundation And there's also something brewing in Australia regarding money that the Australian government has given to several Clinton Foundations Yeah, so it could be. It could be a distraction but let's listen to Alex Witt is my last clip yeah my Alex Witt on MSNBC and let me preface this by mentioning that

1:02:04 If you're looking for the racist angle, she's gonna try to provide... She's discussing this with some... I can't remember this guy's name. He is a black guy who worked in a bunch of administrations and he is kind of a Trumper. We would be the first one. Barack Obama but we don't right now. I want to stay on Donald Trump because there is a lot to talk about with this guy! The reality is that fact that he saying these things even Even alleging that he's saying these things, doesn't that just... there is an effect on that. People will not want to work with him people are appalled you say it's unartful people have used other ways to describe this I mean is there Anything that will reign this president in and help him to understand that he is the President of the United States. There's a level of discourse that is expected in this presidency, This is not the first time that he has done this He has a pattern with more remarks like this Well again I know you want to isolate this but look I've watched observed and served under several presidents

1:03:05 And the reality is that there are times when presidents use language in private settings that have different context, different impact in a public domain. The literary giant Lewis Carroll, through his character Humpty Dumpty said he who defines is the master. And I know the left wants to define this as a Trump problem and they want to racialize the debate right now. You don't see this being racial? Because Ken look at those who are supporting the president on the wake of these statements you've got among them David Duke

1:03:45 The former Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan, he's endorsing these comments on Twitter. We're putting up the statement right now Is the president not just fanning the flames of racism? is he energizing racist elements and by the way were we not asking these very same questions after Charlottesville Come on Alex. Wow the fact of the matter is that David Duke is an idiot, David Duke is a self-avowed racist And so you know you want me to defend... But he likes what the president is allegedly saying! Well again I like your qualification allegedly said The president said he didn't say that I am a proud shitholder Yeah

1:04:24 Well, so you just push it what is they're pushing it. They're just pushing this agenda of the of these of these words He's a racist. Yes hates gays is another one Somehow and I think that by itself is bigoted You know why do you have to think of gays when you think of shithole? What's wrong with you? It's not how I think Yeah, yeah. Okay where else does it come from these people are obsessed with these things? There's something they're obsessed with this guy because he got he kicked He prevented their there their gal Hillary from being president at this point by the way the way This is going to

1:05:06 The media falling apart and everyone going crazy. If Hillary was president, I can't imagine how bad it would be! It'd be the same thing only it would be different... a different version of the same thing." I didn't clip because it was too long but the Anderson Pooper — speaking of shithole — the Anderson Pooper clip of him crying about Haiti is pretty good If you haven't seen it. I only saw a piece, i saw the very end of it Oh yeah... But see doesn't really work just as an ending You gotta have the whole build up and It's all about him No! Because in this case.. I'd like to thank you for your courage And say in the morning to you John Cena

CHAPTER 13 / 44 Discussion

No Agenda Art, The Dude Man and Episode 999

The hosts acknowledge the artwork for the milestone episode, created by "The Dude Man," which features a "Vote Winfrey 2020" button. They thank the "Troll Room" participants, some of whom have been with the show since its early hundreds. The segment transitions into the value-for-value donation model, noting that the show remains ad-free despite the mainstreaming of profanity on television.

no agenda art· the dude man· oprah winfrey· troll room· austin

1:05:48 The new ASC stands for Canoe Inspector Dvorak. Canoe inspector? Is that coming up on the list? Yeah, brand new. In the morning to you Mr Adam Curry! In the morning to all ships at sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water all the names all the nights out there And in the morning to... The Dude Man. The giant speaker system Yes, in the morning to The Dude Man He brought us the artwork for episode 9 or 9 or 8, title of that one was Service Bureau and... service bureau That was why it's so nice This was the Vote Winfrey 2020 button which is good I liked it yes I liked it thought it was good

1:06:35 We are very curious to see what we'll get for episode 9er, 9er, 9er today. NoahJenderArtGenerator.com Also in the morning to The Troll Room! Good to have you guys here A lot of you have been here for all these episodes Or not in the troll room because we didn't have one until... When did we start doing a troll room? That wasn't until in the hundreds, I think. You would know! Yeah no i don't know... VoidZero will let me know So we appreciate you guys being there and this is a special episode it's for some reason round numbers don't work with the No Agenda crew It's the niner, niner, niner that people really love. So let's thank some people who came in to support the work that we do which is how the program works no advertising even though it's you know there's less and less reasons to now not take advertising because you can say shithole on TV now who knew? Well there ya go or expletive. Expletive. Star Officer Dick Bangs $100. Or a hundred dollars... A thousand dollars

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Knighting Ceremony, Sir Gatekeeper and Diet Soda

Thaddeus Parker is knighted as "Sir Gatekeeper" following a $1,000 donation. He shares a story of being introduced to the show during a car ride and requests "diet soda and video games" as his theme. Additionally, Star Officer Dick Bangs receives "Service Donkey Karma" for his contribution and asks for wine recommendations, leading to a discussion on aging Bordeaux.

thaddeus parker· sir gatekeeper· bordeaux· george soros· knighthood

1:07:37 Figured I'd snake the line and donate a show early. You guys are just killing it of late with everyone losing their minds in the M5M and the brainwashed masses parroting the memes. Your refreshing and humorous takes lends a baseline of sanity." He wants to know if there's any good Bordeaux recommendations, I already sent him a note saying any 2015 Bordeaux is worth looking at. He has Chateau Montreux as a very expensive wine that usually runs about 150 bucks a bottle. If you really enjoyed it, I guess you would. It needs age. Don't drink any Montreux less than 10 years old and your better off at 15. Need home construction karma?

1:08:17 And that's it. Don't read on the show. All right! Sir Dick Bangs, uh... Karma for you. You've got... karma. Service Donkey Karma. Thaddeus Parker $1,000 I've been listening since i was hit in the mouth by my cousin In a long car ride to our grandmother's home several states away That's the way to do it I got into a conversation on current events and bad-mouthing Soros when he timely introduced me to 852, Sorocracy which has just come out.

1:08:56 Let's show 852 to you. I was hooked in a heartbeat to the radio style podcast and in-depth information you all provide to your listeners over three hours every show, I look forward to your coverage and review of current events and feel a little sad when I have to wait even two more days to hear feedback on what occurred Friday for my night. You know we can only do... We've thought about it Nothing's that important that you have to have the feedback immediately. I mean, even the guy in Hawaii looked at the bomb threat and he says this is bull crap. You should've internalized a lot of this. For my knighthood, I would like to be known as Sir Gatekeeper. Sir Gatekeeper and recent diet soda and video games

1:09:46 Oh, and request. I'm sorry what am i thinking? Request diet soda and video games if you can put that on there. Oh, I gotta put that diet soda in video games yeah I'll put that on right now Okay Some Jobs Karma for my girlfriend And three jingles Fear is freedom North Korean newscaster And don't raff Why are you raffing All the best! Here's to a thousand more shows Cheers Back to this world! And you will all surrender to them You pi- Don't rap

CHAPTER 15 / 44 Discussion

Baron Rogue, Sir Michael and Southeast Asia Reports

Rogue, the Black Knight of the Okanagan Plains, is promoted to the rank of Baron. Thomas Newman is knighted as "Sir Michael of the Third World Southeast Asia," splitting his time between Singapore and Thailand. He requests "Jobs Karma" and a specific jingle, while the hosts discuss the wine-growing region of the Okanagan Valley in British Columbia.

okanagan valley· singapore· thailand· vancouver· knighthood· baron

1:10:28 Why are you laughing? You've got karma. Shut up! Yay! Shut up! Shut up! Sir Lenart, 999...999. Sir Lenart, Kama Keeper of the Great Work, there's no other comment. I'll give him a Karma. You've got karma. Can never have too much karma There's probably one missing in here of the 900s. Uh-oh! Yeah, this guy here I'm gonna put it in... It's coming as a check and so I'm gonna drop it in here because he didn't come in yet and I thought Eric got my note but I don't see that he did. Well now you did get my note I believe

1:11:25 Sir, Black Knight of the Okanagan Plains. Okay he did good work This is Rogue, Black Knight of the Okanagan Plains This is a 900... He's getting a long note. He sent actually a check in the mail but he's becoming a baron and I figured that the check isn't available and they don't have to worry about it being repeated because when the check comes in you'll just go into the bank This is rogue black night of the Okanagan Valley, which is up there as a wine growing area in Vancouver. ITM fellow travelers I intentionally skipped donating to your most wonderful 10th anniversary special so that I could save my panties for the fabulous show 999 please accept the teeny tiny token of thanks and recognition for the hours and insight and entertainment that you two have provided For oh-so many years with this donation. I finally obtained their rank of Baron and he's on the list nice all right Thank you very much. I mean

1:12:15 Rogue. Rogue! Thomas Newman, $920 in Seattle Washington I jance with this donation along with my previous of boobs and this will bring me to my knighthood i would like to be dubbed Sir Michael of the third which actually yeah he's got the 9 20 and 808 boom that's number two. Boom count too Would like to be dubbed Sir Michael of the Third World Southeast Asia if possible sure My PayPal shows Seattle, but I split time between Singapore and Thailand. Ah! He's in Singapore or Thailand We need reports. I'd like to shout out to Michael Puckett if i can get a Jobs Karma de-douching we give it the douchy right now You've been dedouched Jobs karma resists me much and if you can find it in your heart The I got ants intro

1:13:12 Okay, all right. We got it all right Thank You Thomas resist we much we must and we will much about That be committed I got hands Job job Think it's a little ditty that he wanted us at the beginning. It's kind of cute That is the entire allure of that track is the yes, there's nothing else You have to understand it's that it's the here's the chord shift here and it goes down And then you go hit I got ants I get hands That's beautiful just just piece of art

CHAPTER 16 / 44 Discussion

Baron of Altadena, Alien Documentation and Jingle Requests

Sir Isaac of Altadena is named the "Baron of Altadena" after a donation of $766.33. He encourages the hosts to bring back more "second half of the show" content, specifically regarding alien sightings and government documentation. The segment includes a discussion of the geography of the Los Angeles foothills and various jingle requests.

altadena· pasadena· aliens· performance art· jingles· knighthood

1:14:06 We got a lot of art on this show. We have art as our album are we have art at the end with all those songs people did design? We are nouveau-art Sir, I say the show itself is performance art Yes postmodern performance art Sir Isaac of Altadena 766.33, I started listening to you guys in the low 600s and I can't believe you are now at the EVA 1000! What a milestone! You guys are incredible! I feel like I know you. Thank you for having me outside tomorrow. Thank you for your hard work." It's hard work and please keep this up it's simply too much fun

1:14:44 One request, you guys need to bring in more second half of show stuff. It is sorely missed and is an initial draw for many new listeners I don't believe half of it but its fun to listen too There hasn't been enough alien spottings Well there is like the government has released some documentation But it's going nowhere Okay he has some ideas here Does he? Yeah This donation should make me a baron in Seattle County Please title me the Baron of Altadena, I guess. How do I claim my territory? You just did. Altadena is the...although there's a lot of action down in Southern California with a lot of barons and this is going to be a problem that I'm trying to resolve."

1:15:25 Uh, he says Elta Dina's in the LA foothills above Pasadena. So how can I claim Baron of LA or Baron of LA foothills? Can't I? I was originally knighted Sir Isaac the non-tech douchebag but Eric DeShil and I had an email mix up early on it just went as Sir Isaac as Elta Dina okay. Okay got it well that's a necessary piece information one he's what he wants for jingles okay play I'm sick yeah Sucking on soot you might die and don't raft. I'm sick sucking in soot You might die don't laugh why are you laughing? Shut up, you've got karma Find it's weird that people are wanting to don't raft thing more than before no It's sucking inside they don't don't die. Don't even remember that until you play the kid iso yeah a kid don't die. Yeah Michael

CHAPTER 17 / 44 Discussion

Operation Gladio, Strategy of Tension and Book Club

A producer recommends the book "Operation Gladio" by Paul L. Williams, which explores a "holy alliance" between the Vatican, the CIA, and the Mafia. The hosts connect the book's themes to the "strategy of tension" and the concept of "leave-behind" stay-behind armies in Europe. The book is nominated for the No Agenda Book Club.

operation gladio· vatican· cia· mafia· strategy of tension· book club

1:16:27 Halbie, H-A-L-B-E 57910. Sounds the business. My donation of 57910 caps off my donations for knighthood CB accounting figured I should get in early before the 1000 mega show. My parents gave me great advice and changing careers this year This is my way of honoring them and also the show hmm. I've been listening since episode 49 I think John mentioned the show on Twit Stopped watching since John hasn't been back a birthday donation for my dad last year went over better than expected So I've decided to give my knighthood to him. Ah, I can't wait to hear his reaction to this currently reading the book operation gladio on holy alliance between the Vatican and the CIA in the mafia from the suggestion of it's worth looking into its worth and Speaking of strategy of tension Operation Gladio the B team worth worth looking into

1:17:24 Don't remember if this was ever brought up on the show, but it's a shocking book so far. We've discussed Operation Gladio. The leave-behinds... It's the guys who were embedded left behind to cause mayhem like firing off missile alerts and stuff Yeah pushing buttons then go surfing Beach is open! Yeah. It's likely a nomination for the book club, okay well this should be in there I guess. Requesting Boomshakalaka Woke Millennials and Stay Woke and D-Douche Karma from my dad. My millennials stay woke! You've been d douched you've got karma

CHAPTER 18 / 44 Discussion

CBD Marketing, Sir Cal and Korean News Jingles

Sir Cal, a CBD entrepreneur from Michigan, reports on the success of his business, "Lavender Blossom," within the No Agenda community. He donates $333.33 and requests a jingle featuring a Korean news anchor. The hosts also discuss shipping issues with UPS and a potential meetup at a French dip restaurant in Los Angeles.

cbd· lavender blossom· michigan· ups· korea· knighthood

1:18:15 Sir milkman three three seven dot six nine. Hey, mr. Sir Milkman sir sir milkmen here Adam I need your address to mail you some crap John if you do an LA meetup this month I'd hand off a check in the books rather not get beat up by the otherwise excellent UPS media mail shipping to yeah You sent me a package that came pretty beat-up did it way went all over the world Yeah, he sent it on Monday and it arrived Friday night Beat up. Yeah, it's just priority mail! Yeah beat up. I thought it was misrouted? No they well... They said sure it was beat-up It looked pretty beat-up But as long as your Christmas gift was in there was it? Yes thank you the Christmas gift was in there Now I don't feel so bad about not giving a Christmas gif now Well that's a Christmas yeah okay Why not Phillips two blocks from the Union Station coffee is cheap and the famous French dip is actually pretty good

1:19:12 Maybe okay, maybe all right. It's a possibility Thank you very much sir milkman appreciate it because some karma might be a good idea anytime You've got karma Sir Cal 333 33 in Northville Michigan probably part of local one from cows cows cow CBD oh the CBD guy okay lavender blossom Uh, ITM Gents been a crazy month in the news story carrying our CBD products and over 100 orders online. Mostly due to the magical neurogender community. What? Please pass a Karma to all the supporters and help manage their aches one sore knee at a time!

1:20:02 I've received numerous notes from customers who decided not to use the 10% ITM coupon. So in turn, I'm extending it to you rounded up my favorite number three, three, three dot three, three because I see him more and more late lately. I started listening on show 333 33%, sure than that one became night and 30, three, three later on six, six, six today is another three, three, then add total 1 slash 14 18 C ah, can we Coincidence? Read the book. So, thank you 33 times from the bottom of my 33 heart and at my wife's 33 bottom I please play the news lady who gives a shout out to lavenderblossom.org You know...the Korean news lady Cheers Sir Kel Does he actually give it- does she give a shout out to the uh No I was not aware of that You've got karma Yay!

1:20:58 You know, what you could do I'm recognize just as Sir Cal has to deal with marketing. Mm-hmm you can take that clip Yeah and then find a local Korean to scream into the microphone something about the product Yeah, some like that well a little better sure yeah sure game anonymous goddess 333 33 I'd like to thank everyone for the three thirty threes today Dame anonymous goddess here from Germany Deutschland. Great job lately and happy 999 I've seen too many 33s in the past let's continue to not donate I don't mind, i don't need any jingles but can I get some moving karma? Yes! And you probably want a burrow for that You've got it Karma Yeah A Burrow A Burrow A Burrow A Burrow for moving karma

CHAPTER 19 / 44 Discussion

Rocket Texas, Super Collider and Polish Vodka History

A discussion about "Rocket, Texas" leads to a story about the Super Collider project that was canceled during the Clinton administration. The hosts then pivot to the history of vodka, asserting that it was invented in Poland and that the country's scientific output, including Copernicus, suffered for 300 years due to the invention.

rocket texas· bill clinton· super collider· vodka· poland· copernicus

1:21:52 Don't mention my name or location, even though there's a name here. I'm lucky. You're good! You're sharp! Well it was just because i was reading this note... He doesn't want anything you'd like to request the mac and cheese caramel is $333 from parts unknown unknown person for anyone that has eaten at D-FAC 10 more years! Thank you for your courage. Right on right up the street. They got some great names and it sounds they got electro Texas And one of my favorites is rocket, Texas And I believe in rocket Texas was somewhere in the middle of the giant super collider that was cancelled by Bill Clinton because he was jealous They hated Texas Oh and a super clutter which I visited went down in the hole

1:23:05 No, it was a lion. It's like this limestone hole anyway so I went to the Rocket Cafe. I think it's called the Rocket Cafe in Rocket Texas and had for the first and last time in my life chicken fried steak which is actually when it's done right is quite delicious. A lot of white gravy on it anyway can't be good for you Jerry Zack, I don't remember when I started to listen to you guys But I had to be it had to be shortly after John mentioned the show on Twitter for the first time since you have become my weekly dose of sanity Hopefully is twice a week. Thank you now I never really paid attention to accounting but it seems that I kind of forgot to be knighted with this donation I am going straight to the next level baronet please night me as sir Wasteless lost Baronette of Timber Hill

1:23:58 Can I request a round of Polish potato vodka for the ceremony? Hold on. Polish potato vodka, we gotta put this on the list Yes People should know that it was Poland that invented vodka Doesn't the best vodka still come from... yes the best vodka comes from Poland and good vodka is spelled with a W That is right my Slavic brother Because W-O-D-K-A. Vodka! We call it vodka. If you look at the history of Poland, one of the really...you know where a lot of great scientists came from Copernicus and others if you look at the history...JC loves pointing this out The history of Poland kind of disappears for about 300 years after the invention of vodka. Hmm. Apparently they really like drinking stuff. I wonder. They like drinking it

1:24:51 Her jingles send my way. There's no conflict two to the head and the goats scream or the service goat karma Okay, also a really sweet man is battling pancreatic cancer please add an f-cancer to this Not too fish I think his name is fish Wait a minute, I'm gonna do that over again. I want to do over and like a mulligan on that because they got confused Mulligan, I've won it. I want to molly and what a money here We've got karma Brandon trainee

CHAPTER 20 / 44 Discussion

Dame Nancy of New Jersey, Career Changes and Travel Karma

Nancy Misko is knighted as "Dame Nancy of New Jersey" after setting up a recurring donation. She requests "travel karma" for an upcoming cross-country drive with her husband. The hosts also revisit a previous donation from Brandon Trinic, who credited "Jobs Karma" for helping him secure a $41,000-a-year job and a new home.

nancy pelosi· new jersey· career· travel· knighthood· dame

1:25:39 Brandon Trinic, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Trent, Fast forward to 1.5 months from my last donation, and I went from having no job and nothing really going on for me This is an old one Really? I think so Yeah...I don't remember reading it Yeah..I have a odd memory like that Yeah, I know you did last time too when you were wrong Okay, i'm looking at 9 or 9 or 8

1:26:29 Maybe it was, I don't know. I could be wrong again but I remember this... I remember what-I think I know to tell you what it was You sent an email and you read it Yeah, you're right that's that I got to be careful of that you're right This is the uh now that you bring it up I will mention this is the problem with pre interviews on talk shows It makes them boring in a way have to really ad lib the show Which is talent you need talent for that You have to have some skills, yeah. Some probably some fast forward I went from having no job nothing really going on for me having a new job paying 41 thousand a year full benefits that's the big deal that 80 thousand right there and i bought a house so I really enjoy the job the freedom of the house

1:27:19 and the house. Take notes people, donated to the show I asked for the blessing of our lovely goat JCD actually banned it while reading my note 97-7 this might be where you remember. Yeah that's why it stuck with me your right yeah and service goat provided thanks through the information your providing I look forward to show 1000 please give me some service goats for those who can't afford it thanks! You've got karma All right, down to associate executive producers on this big show. It's a big show. Nancy Mixo you think? Mixo and 250 bucks. A while back I set up a recurring donation of $33.99 per month for the show. I thought it might be close to knighthood so i added everything up and found that I had passed the knighthood and I'm halfway to baronet accounting below

1:28:10 Please knight me Dame Nancy of New Jersey. I'm not trying to claim anyone's territory It's just where I live if you can find the clip you once played a Nancy Pelosi saying thank You Nancy, thanks Nancy. I don't have that no I only have that I don't have a Nancy Pelosi say in it Thanks, Nancy could I have that? Huh? I Don't remember the Nancy. I think that's what she's referring to Can you play that if not can I have travel karma my husband and I are going to be driving across the country and so we could use it Thanks for all you do. It's a fun thing to do drive across the countries, and uh we have this for you. Thanks Nancy All right onward to

CHAPTER 21 / 44 Discussion

Sir Stickton, Al Sharpton Compilation and Database Errors

Squire Stickton of Houston is knighted as "Sir Stickton of the Westside Villages" after sending a check originally written in June. During the segment, a database error occurs when Adam Curry attempts to find an Al Sharpton jingle. To cover the technical glitch, a compilation of Al Sharpton's teleprompter struggles is played, featuring his mispronunciations of various names and countries.

houston· al sharpton· database· windows· knighthood· jingles

1:29:01 Squire Stickton in Houston, Texas. I have a note here and these are associate executive producers Nancy was the first of the associates and squires is the second yes, y'all Okay got fakeologist Is this stick things? Yeah there's here it is only half three sir stickton of the Westside villages to be exact I wrote this check in June and address Oh This is gonna be fun to take you to bank by the way I wrote this check in June, it's the same. He didn't rewrite the check he sent me to June check which the bank is gonna go okay. I wrote this check in June and addressed at the envelope thinking at that time I'll send this check when I've collected pithy witty observations and they add a note too six months later and pithy witty has not graced my consciousness so here's the check. I don't know if banks accept six month old checks but give it a shot yeah

1:30:01 Add 20 bucks to it if it gets bounced. This donation brings me to knighthood and Sir Sticton of the Westside Villages will do just fine for a title, I think that's on there? Not much for requesting jingles but since most of the good ones get played repeatedly let's try these! Oh okay here we go Okay yeah in fact should have sent you this in advance Yes you always- You've been saying that for 900 episodes Yeah well Let's try By episode 1500 I guarantee it Jeb Bush requesting supporters to clap. Okay now this one you won't be get I guarantee it because I don't remember it One person clapping in the Canadian Parliament during Justin Trudeau speech in regard to reparations for individuals Identified as LGBT, I vaguely remember that he wanted reparations I think I remember what that is

1:30:59 It was the- And last, and last. This one you won't get either so we're not gonna play these but at least we'll give it a shot Sharpton trying to say asterisk Let me just see this for second Public service The military and the RCMP spied on their own people inside and outside of workplaces During this time the federal government even dedicated funding to an absurd device known as no fruit. That's not the one You have successfully stumped the panel oh shit I did something really Oh, I did something really bad oh But you ruined the show you've ruined the show I'll tell you what's happening as we speak

1:31:58 So my entire system, everything's in a database and I was type...I wanted to type in ASTIK and I only typed the A and S and then accidentally hit enter. And it's going to take... So everything is with AS? Well, the database is quite large as you can imagine. It's yeah so just cover a little bit Yeah, do you can you play something cuz it'll take a moment for the For this to recover. No I think we only have to do is we don't have to play anything will come back to Squire stick there was now night stickton knight sir stickton of the Westside villages And we'll come back to him and our order to read in next note and ah you did it okay? Now let me see if I can find his sharp tip Sharpton Let me see

1:32:44 That was pretty quick. Yeah, it's well I have a very powerful machine John oh It's a Windows Machine to like that you got it we have so many So many Sharpton things Maybe it was just one in one of those sharpton against the teleprompter. I think it was one of them one of the Compilations yeah, yes, I think I can play a compilation please resist We much? We must They're all jitty about a shutdown. The tortice in the race, then co-author of Cobra's YouTube lead singer Bono friend Drasher Sigourney Weaver suspect Jahar Sonaev Rush Limbaugh rush limbug rush limbaugh the show Rush Lombard hosts Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor is Michael is Mike

1:33:40 yesterday Antoni Antonioni Scalia Kim Kardashian and the Republican candidates for Cairo and Benghazi we rank behind Latvia La Vita Kazakhstan, Kazakstan to college students in Beijing. He's getting lunch at Chipotle in Iowa. Bain is appropriate! The GOP's tax day giveaway to millionaires Why was traffic problems email sent? The Environmental Projection Agency and what sequestration has done

1:34:23 You've got karma. Karma. Unbelievable! But it wasn't in there, I'm a little upset by that No that's funny, uh Astic...I remember- I remember it vividly and I can't believe we didn't ISO that because that is something you would have ISO'd I would think Yeah Nope don't have it sorry Sorry That's good, he stumped the panelist Oh someone will send it to me Onward to John Darius Soltis, DJ Powerboy.

CHAPTER 22 / 44 Discussion

Windows Insider Program, Cannabis Labs and Fake News Jingles

DJ Powerboy offers a tour of a CO2 cannabis extraction laboratory in Denver. Sir Nick from Michigan donates $220.69, a number referencing a Windows Insider "Fast Ring" build, to welcome Adam Curry into the "Micro-surftum." The segment includes a "Fake News" jingle and an announcement for a No Agenda meetup in Plymouth, Michigan.

denver· colorado· cannabis· windows insider· fake news· michigan

1:35:08 Show that have three identical digits coincidence. I think not okay Just getting that I'm overjoyed to finally be in good financial track again and can now contribute a small portion of the value I have received this miraculous change in fortune must be the result of excessive jobs karma exposure MIT iodine My first donation was back in 2013. I have been an avid listener ever since, so on this most suspicious occasion, I could profusely thank you as I have done in the past for the OMG it's amazing work you do and have been doing. I could try to make some ingratiating and nerdy joke that Buzzkill will most likely fumble

1:35:56 Hey, I could even call out Stephan Edward Lehman of Spartanburg South Carolina as a douchebag for the third time. Oops! Oops! There we go. Three times a charm. And then he says but what good would it do? Early congratulations on show 1000 if either of you ever in the Denver metro area i'd be honored to personally give you a tour of the CO2 cannabis extraction laboratory. As soon as we'll be famous, we're a Colorado Cannabis company where I work in the lab. Okay. To the gate! To the climate gate! Two to the head and it was worth it.

1:36:56 Sir Nick, .4D Waterford Michigan. If you're not a local one join they've had meetups a lot at least once well I think pretty much once a month to 22069 Waterford Michigan um i wasn't planning on donating but seeing Adam went completely insane last show I had to donate I'm asking you what is he referring to? I have no idea what did I do wrong What'd I do this time? You went insane. That doesn't mean you did anything wrong. This donation of $220.69, which is current Windows Insiders Fast Ring Bill 17074 plus 999 nickels is to officially... brother! To officially welcome Adam into the micro-surftum may he always be prosperous in the convenant and his PC never bug checked during the show

1:37:54 My PC's never bug checked. It bug checked, that's bull crap! Can I get a Mexican hat dance Obama? Fake news orgasm goat scream karma. Thank you for your courage years to do 999 more shows and another Michigan meetup Oh, he is a member local one station 8 okay? I'll read this there be another Michigan meet up at station eight eight five in Plymouth, Michigan next Sunday the 21st at 11 a.m Please RSVP in the mail chain at no agenda Detroit so didn't know about this No agenda Detroit at umich dot edu

1:38:31 I don't know. I don't know what the...I know what he's talking about, the fake news jingle with orgasm but of course it is not titled Fake News Orgasm and we have a lot of fake news jingles so i'm just going to grab one. I'm sorry. I don't exactly which one you would want. I do of course have... Hey! Hey! No no no no no no no. Hey hey! Come on guys No, no, no, no. Shame on you! Hey! Hey! Okay... Oh, no, no, no, no, no. I'm up in the house. Hey! Breaking the booths! Fake news Made-up false stories Fake news Unreliable sources Fake news Soundbites and snippets Fake news Fake news Fake news Fake news infects the left and right You've got karma Sorry

CHAPTER 23 / 44 Discussion

Justin Trudeau, ISIS in America and Bernie Sanders Jingles

Carolyn Blaney from Toronto requests "Jobs Karma" and jingles related to Justin Trudeau and ISIS. Due to a lack of specific isolated clips, the hosts play a Bernie Sanders "Jobs" jingle instead. The discussion briefly touches on the difficulty of finding specific audio clips within their extensive database.

toronto· justin trudeau· isis· bernie sanders· nancy pelosi· jobs karma

1:39:25 I'll have to look for it. It's hard to find that one. Carolyn Blaney in Toronto, Ontario 209 99 thank you for your courage John and Adam Happy New Year the best podcast in universe has brought me so much valuable information as the years go on The show becomes more relevant and necessary just want to give plugged Nick the rat show and let everyone And let everyone want and recommend everyone listen if you haven't already please give a job as karma Pelosi Trump jobs Karma that is An ISIS in America and a Trudeau. Thank you for your courage, ooh Isis in America and True dough we have that I don't know of it. I don't remember it. Oh, thank you for your courage

1:40:18 We have it from True dough. I'm trying to outsmart the database hmm ah okay Yeah, I found someone saying it we'll see how far we get No That's not even close Shoot man. I don't know and I just can't find you today that stuff yeah Well two stumps in one show true dough. I don't remember it. Yeah, I do oh I do, but i think it was part of a longer clip and it wasn't iso'd or anything like that. Yeah people get yeah A lot of these we don't really have iso's so they can't be played. Yeah makes little difficult Well, we'll just uh do a Bernie Sanders then close enough And what else does he want? Jobs karma Trump jobs karma That is Isis in America Isis an American jobs karma It's trump Pelosi jobs karma correct Yes to Trump Pelosi ISIS We will follow ISIS

1:41:32 Thank you for your courage. Jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs! Let's vote for jobs! You've got karma. That was Sanders saying it? Yeah, Sanders. Not Sonders. Bernie Saunders! Yes, Bernie Saunders Sir Geoffrey Yerkey my partner in trying to get every Red Fox album recoded which we haven't done for about two years $202 and 2 cents so a lot of twos in there

CHAPTER 24 / 44 Discussion

Fakeologist, WTC7 and Hyper-Realistic Drills

The creator of Fakeologist.com donates $200, praising the show's technical information and media analysis. The donor mentions "hyper-realistic drills" (HRD) and requests audio related to WTC7 and "service goats." The hosts discuss the importance of supporting new media and the "value-for-value" model.

fakeologist· toronto· wtc7· drills· media analysis· value-for-value

1:42:09 So Jeff Yerke in Concord, California. Please give me a congrats on 999 and give me a don't raft isn't this an interesting coincidence? Don't raft random numbers and a broth dr. Fauci and Karma don't laugh why you are laughing shut up good to be here broth You've got karma All right, as we wrap we got the last one which is a $200 donation from The Fakeologist in Toronto Ontario at fakeologist.com It's my second annual donation to your fantastic show although you don't go as far as fakeologist.com to acknowledge the endless HRD PAR hyper-realistic drills portrayed is real

1:43:04 You provide so much podcast technical information and critical analysis of the media in an entertaining and educational way that I must support you. Thank you! I encourage many of your ideas into the fake...I incorporate many of your ideas into The Fakeologist and Fakeologist Audio Chat Podcast that I encourage your listeners to subscribe too Please find a check for $200 Canadian dollars at par for your show. I remind people to support all new media if they want to see it continue, your model is the future and I hope you continue to succeed in proving it." I request that WTC7 won't go away, the service goats scream and yum! WTC7, service goats scream and yum? Yum, you know, yum with that woman who sees the juice

1:43:58 Is it called juice yum? It might be juice yum, but I think there's just a yum. Just by juice yum is good enough. WTC7 won't go away! Juice... the juice that comes out my hand is dripping wet here because I have nothing but juice. That's actually better. I agree Who knew?! We got even better ones So I do want to mention a little card i got apparently from Wrigley Geek. There's a Christmas card and the from the Kemps but, I think it was from one of the kids

CHAPTER 25 / 44 Discussion

Ford Truck Gifts, Michigan State Trivia and Mystery Package

Adam Curry receives a care package from the "Michigan One Group," including a Ford F1 key rack and books on the Ford empire. John Dvorak quizzes Adam on Michigan state trivia, such as the state flower (Apple Blossom) and tree (White Pine). The segment ends with Adam receiving a heavy, 20-pound mystery package from Scandinavia via DHL, which he decides to save for Episode 1000.

ford· michigan· dhl· scandinavia· apple blossom· episode 1000

1:44:37 Love you man, my family calls you guys the angry men. They'll come around some day. Are you listening to those angry men again? The Angry Men! Wake up says Wrigley Geek." So he's in Chicago so Wrigley would make sense. I got a great little care package from the Michigan One Group yeah, they sent me. They said they were there was backroom chatter on a jazz chatter Yes about it well I you know that I have a Ford truck and they all work for Ford And so they sent me this care package first. They send me this beautiful It's the rear end of a Ford What would that be at the note here? The f1 and it's a key rack oh

1:45:25 You know, so you hang it on the wall. It's the back of a Ford F1 truck one of those old-fashioned ones and You hang your keys cool is very nice sounds like great junk to have yes that That's actually it's a nice piece as one of those things that yeah Yeah, no you'll pick up in a curioso shop when I'm dead There's the DVD of the first 100 years the history of four trucks And there is a book The creation of the Ford Empire, Henry and Edsel. And then I would have to say my favorite is the oven mitt in the shape of Michigan with Michigan and all all the cities and towns on it yes yeah do you know what the uh what the states got a key fob too? You're gonna use the key fob i didn't get a key fob they said just i thought they sent you a key fob no that's not on it now that's the key holder

1:46:17 Aha, yes. So they told you about my gifts in advance nice no no I'm on the local one mailing oh Shatter goes back and forth. I just I'm a lurker Yeah, so what is the state flower of Michigan? Dandelion we're sorry it's the apple blossom what is these it's on its own my oven mitt What does this date bird? The state bird is a crow. So close to the robin! How about the state fish? State fish is a rainbow trout. Oh, brook trout! Close... And then finally the tree? Uh, poison ivy. You nailed it! Poison oak! The white pine yes good word and then there's I got another package here and I'm a little worried about this hold on let me get it

1:47:12 This box was delivered with DHL, and it's from Candanavia. It must weigh 7 or 8 pounds... No! 20 pounds it says right here on the package And its completely you know... Listen it sounds like that and it says ITM open honor before show 1000 critical show item but listen to this It sounds like there's ball bearings in there and this thing is probably going to blow my head off when I open it. Well, that would be a way to finish 1000 shows. Yes legendary so i'm thinking maybe I should open an after show 1000 no you have to do what he says now oh i'm not gonna open it now i'm a little i'm a little you know i'm a little concerned yeah they've x-rayed most things now it's pretty hard to get bombs through the mail

1:48:05 Most DHL though. Yeah, they don't care. Don't give a crap Well in case I'm still here for the day actually a DHL sensor dynamite here lady yeah good one Sorry in case I am still here then we will be doing a show on Thursday And that will be show 1000. So we're T-1 and you'll get a newsletter, and information on any special... say other one that I just thought show 1000 1k the big one baby and we appreciate your support go to... Dvorak dot org slash N A and tell your friends and family about those angry men propagate our formula! Our formula is this We go out, we hit people in the mouth Angry Men! Shut up

CHAPTER 27 / 44 Discussion

David Letterman, Netflix Series and Algorithmic Bubbles

John Dvorak reviews David Letterman's new Netflix show, "My Next Guest Needs No Introduction," criticizing Letterman's beard and the lack of a traditional producer to reign him in. The first episode features Barack Obama, who discusses how social media algorithms reinforce biases and create "bubbles." Obama cites an experiment where different users searching for "Egypt" received vastly different results based on their political leanings.

david letterman· netflix· barack obama· algorithms· egypt· tahrir square

1:52:51 But this is a pro tip and I like it. And we can integrate all kinds of interesting things into this, so dudes in Dudette's name Ben check it out! I would gladly put bingit.co, I want to put one of these up there. Looks good yeah yeah It's good this very very... it's a way to decentralize and remove power from those that have it and I'm always all for that Well yes Taxi! Okay. Yeah, I got that for Christmas. Hey did you see the new Letterman show on Netflix? Not yet. Oh, very boring. Well yeah my guess would be because there's phenomenal guests or all just a bunch of... Boring people is so the show was called My Next Guest subtitle needs no introduction and there's a lot wrong with it

1:53:54 The first thing is Letterman is no longer Letterman. He's now the retired guy who makes jokes about his retirement, and in fact his first guest was President Obama and the conversation kept coming back to what he did after he retired it was very odd and Letterman even stopped himself from doing at a certain point. The second thing wrong as the beard I don't care how he wants look but we've lost all of this facial expressions which arguably was an important part of his television persona You can no longer see his facial expressions. I don't know why he thinks that beard is so cool. Nah, it's a... He looks like a maniac! Like some fart! Well Jim Carrey has the same hair growth on his chin when he grows it It's just an ace...

1:54:41 I don't find it attractive, but I find mainly it's like Botox for men. You can't see his expression anymore you have no idea what he is thinking. It was dumb Obama was on, Tina and I were watching This is the problem when you produce your own show When you never have done that. He has been produced by various producers who reign him in and they make him do stuff, and he bitches about it and it gives them an edge because he's irked by his producers telling him we can't do this or can't do that This is like the first guy... Somebody who has been doing and producing his stuff forever decides to become a podcaster So he's

1:55:29 He's working without a net and thinking that it is cool, but it might not be cool for everybody. And in the theater on a big stage with two chairs... It's just a conversation. But that doesn't work on television! It would be interesting if you closed your eyes and it was mic'd properly and sounded really good That would be something I'd listen to in the car, or listen to a podcast. But there's absolutely no reason to watch it if anything it detracts... It distracts really from what is being said although lot of people pointed out this ditty. I was under the impression that Twitter would be the mechanism by which truth was told around the world If you are getting all your information off algorithms being sent through a phone

1:56:17 And it is just reinforcing whatever biases... I love how he simplifies what an algo is. It's really nice. You are getting all your information off algorithms being sent through a phone, and it is just reinforcing whatever biases you have which is The the pattern that develops there was an interesting Experiment lost a train of thought their big scientific experiment, but just an experiment that somebody did during now listen to this bullshit story Then he's talking about a scientific study not really it was just something people did He doesn't know what he's just making it up on the spot. The the pattern That developed say there was an interesting experiment

1:57:03 not a big scientific experiment, but just an experiment that somebody did during the revolution that was taking place in Egypt in Tahrir Square. Somebody took sort of a liberal conservative and quote-unquote immoderate and sent them on a Google search being Egypt type it in and for the Conservative it came up now Muslim Brotherhood And for the Liberal it came up to rear square and four The moderate, it came up vacation spots on the Nile. But whatever your biases were that's what where you were being sent and and that gets more and more reinforced over time That's what's happening with these Facebook pages where more and more people are getting their news from At a certain point you just live in a bubble

1:57:57 And that's part of why our politics is so polarized right now. I think it is a solvable problem, but I think it's one that we have to spend a lot of time thinking about." It seems like a valuable tool that has turned against us. Yeah there you go. Boy! That was great thanks for... everyone should've honked their horn to wake me up. That's pretty much what the entire show is. It's boring Yeah, well he doesn't have a producer and the show is not designed to be entertaining apparently. It's just him yacking with someone. Yeah it's not entertaining but at least he mentioned the Algos. Meet The Algos So there was another little news item that didn't get a lot of play because they were so good with this shithole thing they couldn't get some of these other Trump screw ups

CHAPTER 28 / 44 Discussion

FISA Reauthorization, Trump Tweets and Fox & Friends

President Trump caused confusion on Capitol Hill by tweeting skepticism about the FISA reauthorization, seemingly echoing a segment on Fox & Friends. After a phone call with Speaker Paul Ryan, Trump issued a follow-up tweet supporting the bill, which targets "foreign bad guys on foreign land." The hosts discuss the "kangaroo court" nature of the FISA system and its origins in the post-9/11 Patriot Act era.

fisa· donald trump· fox and friends· paul ryan· surveillance· patriot act

1:58:57 And this one I think is a Trump screw up. So let's play, this is the FISA vote Trump tweeted that you know one thing and then he tweeted another. Whoa whoa whoa tell me what's going on with I don't know about the FISA vote, tell me was happening? Well all you do is play clip 1 FISA vote Trump waffles. This evening the mixed messages from President Trump today on a key security surveillance law in an early morning tweet the president suggested he opposed the law saying it was used to abuse and surveil his campaign Two hours later, an apparent reversal. So what happened in between? ABC senior White House correspondent Cecilia Vega on that tonight. A morning of confusion began with this comment on one of President Trump's favorite morning shows a direct message to the president about that controversial surveillance program Congress was set to reauthorize today I don't understand why Donald Trump is in favor of this

1:59:51 His woes began with unlawful foreign surveillance and unconstitutional domestic surveillance of him. Mr President, this is not the way to go." Minutes later the president took to Twitter using the exact language that appeared on Fox & Friends. Wait! I thought he watched The Gorilla Channel? Now, I have to stop right here because it was nothing close to the exact language. They slipped that in—this is kind of like the Major Garrett report where they decide to drop one these little needles in there and just kinda give it to him and imply that he's a plagiarist or can't think for himself…

2:00:31 Can't put together a sentence because he can't read we know that you know this sort of thing all these these images that were kept They keep giving us it is not the exact language at all so I compared the two and isn't the It was the same idea. You give us to say we can give us the language can we hear it? There's no, I know I can't I guess just not the same yeah, that is not the same hmm But anyway onward with part two of this language that appeared on Fox and Friends House votes on controversial FISA Act today He said this is the act that may have been used to so badly surveil and abuse the Trump campaign by the previous administration And others, The president's tweets seem to contradict his own policy. The White House supports reauthorizing FISA

2:01:16 program that allows the government to conduct warrantless surveillance on suspected terrorists overseas and on US soil. Cue the chaos on Capitol Hill, a flurry of calls between the president and confused lawmakers speaker Paul Ryan spent half an hour on the phone with him after those calls the president appeared to backtrack in a follow-up tweet Today's vote is about foreign surveillance of foreign bad guys on foreign land. We need it, get smart! The bill is passed Ultimately the House did vote to reauthorize the law Did he not understand what bill you were voting on today? He just has concerns about other parts of FISA

2:01:56 I think everybody knows that too. And the top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee went on the attack saying the president endangered national security and that quote FISA is something the president should have known about long before he turned on Fox this morning many people are interpreting that first tweet from the president to mean he didn't actually know how FISA works and for that matter that he wasn't familiar with his own administration's policy. Does he know FISA? Was he familiar with the policy? He does, which is why he issued a presidential memo last week expressing concerns and has a full understanding. I'll bet he does! Yeah they try to twist this like the guy doesn't even know what FISA means even though he was caught up in it

2:02:38 It doesn't make any sense what they're saying. And yeah, he got probably scolded by the shadow government or something when he decided to kind of push back on FISA which is something they should do because it's only you know it's a new thing that was just implemented around 2002 and now all of a sudden it's so important even though it does...it's really used for spying and blackmail. Yeah! That's why he wants us to keep it Well, he doesn't know what he's doing in this regard. He doesn't know what he wants to keep it I mean Napolitano laid it out and by the way They did read his tweet you can tell this tweet that they read at the beginning of that clip It had nothing sounded nothing like what Napolitano said but which is

2:03:22 What I was trying to get at earlier. This is like the most anti-American thing that whole Patriot Act and this FISA court, it's a kangaroo courts, it's a secret court... It's ridiculous that they're allowing this! And then keep it going and everyone's all in, the Democrats or Republicans. And that asshole Warner comes in and says he doesn't know anything! This is the most important thing in the world, risking national security? Really?! That was almost as boring as The Letterman clip. No it wasn't. Yeah it was kind of... But since we're kinda going into that direction

CHAPTER 29 / 44 Discussion

Moby, Intelligence Community and Russian Collusion Claims

Musician Moby claims in an interview with Pitchfork that active and former CIA agents approached him to spread information about Donald Trump being a "Russian agent." Moby asserts that the intelligence community is concerned about Trump being a "Manchurian candidate" involved with organized crime and Russian oligarchs. The hosts mock Moby's "low-ranked celebrity" status and his claims of having friends in the CIA.

moby· cia· fusion gps· dianne feinstein· russian agent· manchurian candidate

2:04:07 This was rather surprising. I think now in the Russian collusion investigation, but now there's been a retraction so that the claim that FBI had a mole inside the Trump team is not true. There's this we do here this came in this morning indictment in the Russian bribery case Who gives a crap about that, but these are all like indictments for like lying to the FBI? Yeah. Yeah Which seems to be trying it for doing anything seems to be a trend is lying to the FBI All the cool kids are doing it But but the deep state was working the fusion GPS angle very hard You're not under oath what does the FBI make you sign something that says you can't lie to them How tall of you I'm 6 2

2:05:01 You 6-1'd! Throw him in jail, I mean come on. So the Fusion GPS dossier was being disclosed and talked about to celebrities over a year ago and the evidence i have for that is that they even talk to a...I would say reasonably low ranked celebrity granted he's famous you know Moby of course Low-ranked. Low ranked? Well, Moby... We got this much rankings Bill?! Where's Moby on the Showbiz Ranking?

2:05:45 Moby. Yeah, Moby. And Moby shouldn't even be on there unless Moby is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations Well, Moby was approached. Years of touring and spending time in D.C., in New York I've managed to make a few friends in the intelligence community and... Makes nothing but sense. Yes it's about a year ago. Here he's traveling the world they need to get some debriefing say where'd you go? Did you meet anybody? You know Now that you say that and in the intelligence community and I guess But I guess it was about a year ago, we were having dinner and they were really concerned partially based on this not to go too much in the weeds but like this Fusion GPS report on Trump essentially being run as a Russian agent. And these are some active and former CIA agents who they're truly concerned. They were like this is the Manchurian candidate he has a Russian agent as the president of the United States

2:06:47 Now, hold on a second. What's interesting about this is it he says CIA so CIA who have not really been brought up in context of this... I don't remember him saying CIA in that just intelligence community. who were, they're truly concerned. They were like this is the Manchurian candidate like he have a Russian agent as the president of the United States and so they passed on some information to me and they said look you have more of social media following than any of us do can you please post some of these things just put it out there

2:07:42 You look at Dianne Feinstein who released the testimony from when Fusion GPS went before the Senate Judiciary Committee, and she just released those notes yesterday. And yeah it does seem like to what extent there's collusion I don't know but where there is smoke there is fire. I don't know if there's anything going on, but there's smoke. You have so much evidence pointing to the fact that Trump, the Trump administration is really in bed with the Russians. Where's the evidence? The CIA said it shut up way and unfortunately

2:08:19 I just don't see people in Congress sort of holding the administration accountable. It's really disturbing, and it's going to get quite a lot darker—like the depths of the Trump family and business, their involvement with organized crime, sponsors of terrorism, Russian oligarchs—it's really dark. Yeah, well that was... I guess we should all like fasten our seatbelts and hold on. Spot the spook! Spot the spook! Everybody wants to spot the spook! Well you're playing stuff so might as well play Clip of The Day as far as i'm concerned. Oh thank you very much that's uh that was unexpected. No it shouldn't have been.

CHAPTER 30 / 44 Discussion

Mort Zuckerman, New York Real Estate and Mob Ties

The hosts discuss the long-standing grudge between Donald Trump and Daily News owner Mort Zuckerman, both of whom were rival real estate developers in New York. They speculate that Trump's past "favors" for Zuckerman might have involved mob connections, which they argue were a necessity for large-scale construction in the city. The segment contrasts these local ties with the broader allegations of Russian collusion.

mort zuckerman· daily news· donald trump· real estate· mob· new york city

2:09:07 I mean that's out of left field so i'm always a fan of that but So where was this broadcast? Where'd you get this clip. This was oh, I'd have to look at my clips Is it on the podcast one of these That's possible let me see sounds like a podcast kind of discussion and I got it off of youtube uh It's an interview done by pitchfork they're They're a legitimate outlet Pitchfork as a music outlet yeah The thing with Moby though You know, when we go to sleep I like to put on a very soft Mozart or maybe some very soft piano. And one night I tried Moby's Sleep Thing. He has a sleep album. He has a sleep album where he gives you subliminal messages? Maybe! Kill all humans... Tina woke up and then she went the bathroom and I was awake and she comes back says what is this in my head it's going

2:10:07 I said, oh i'm sorry but it's Moby. He said so what if its Moby? I was all like but its Moby! It must be good as Moby That you saying that. Yes me saying that yeah he's like turn that crap off where do I live in a shithole well this guy spot the spook geez isn't that but what else do you want me to tweet boys I thought yeah and I thought that it was CIA is Telling. It's just telling about something I wonder how they got this, where they...I mean we- I think it's fairly well, you can't be the big shot billionaire in construction in New York City without having ties to the mob yeah Without having ties to the mob because you gotta deal with things

2:11:03 Things happen. You gotta deal with them somehow, and you can't do it by yourself. We got some things we gotta deal with! So he's gotta deal with some things and so he has these contacts now the other thing that I noticed recently was this This Mort Zuckerman who runs the or owns the, or did own The Daily News and they had the big turd on the cover recently. Oh yeah, poop emoji. Shit for brains and the turd had a Donald Trump haircut. And so I'm looking into this, these guys have some grudge that goes way back. I didn't know that Mort was a real estate developer competing with Trump.

2:11:42 And so they go way back. And there was something that happened a long time ago, and then more recently Trump...and I think this has been brought up a few times you can look up the Juckerman-Trump thing on Bing and you'll find some references to this particular story where Trump says that Mort and his partner running the Daily News back in the late 90's came to him and he saved the newspaper And so he saved the newspaper and then Mort says, no we don't even remember this meeting. So I'm thinking about this what was it that happened?

2:12:21 Because there was no mention of money didn't give him money to say this he called one of his mob buddies and said hey these guys are getting harassed by the Health department or something. There's something going on that we don't know it There's no discussion of the details, so I'm assuming it's something He did him a favor this sort of idea favor and so he then he feels they're not very forthcoming with Even you know being either they're blasting him left and right at least the at least more it is because the the other guy is Went to Washington DC, and he's like part owner of the Redskins hmm But there's a lot of we know There's some sketchy background because you can't be a big shot like this in New York City without being tight with the mob Correct just not possible no

2:13:16 But that's different than the Russians as he tied with the Russian mob. Maybe maybe only did business with the Russian mob That's possible I mean, they're there in New York and they're all over their New York general Sanchez They're all over the place And they're a group of guys that can do take care of things so who knows but The CIA seems to be pretty worked up about it if they got these ex guys. But it's been the FBI case, the FBI filed their dossier what is CIA doing? And that was when Obama was still president I presume. Whatever it is they just don't like this guy but why would they like Hillary? Moby's not saying that

CHAPTER 31 / 44 Discussion

Blockchain Hype, Kodak and Adbank Transparency

The "blockchain" trend is examined, noting how companies like Kodak and Long Island Iced Tea saw stock surges after rebranding as blockchain entities. A promotional video for "Adbank" is played, which claims to use a decentralized ledger to eliminate middlemen and combat advertising fraud. The hosts remain skeptical of the hype, comparing the marketing to previous social media gimmicks.

bitcoin· blockchain· kodak· fintech· adbank· advertising fraud

2:14:04 No, he's not and you know when we want political advice. We go to Moby 13548 Not doing too well for the people who got in if you bought it at 50 cents What would you be saying? I'm talking about the people who bought the dip The dip yeah by the dip people buy the dip I'm going to predict it will see 11,000 550 before you go up again so what cares? Okay, here's what you predict that could go up. It could go down

2:14:48 Okay But the blockchain technology is everywhere Joe block the block chain you guys must talk about that a lot on the Dvorak Horowitz unplugged show the blockchain No, neither one of us really know what it means Really? You know what it has you to attach it to a company name and boom. You will no that's sick That's a coin No, that's not even true. Oh no you put blockchain in there? One company Kodak said we're the blockchain company now and it just started skyrocketing! The Long Island Blockchain Company was the Long Island Tea Company. Yeah, the Long Island Ice Tea Company. Well so the blockchain it is being used in a new category called FinTech. FinTech... FinTech... FinTech... FinTech's not a new category It's an it's a new hype. It's a new hype as a hype category

2:15:37 Yes, and blockchain is a part of this. And the reason why it is interesting is when you have a decentralized ledger then it's much harder apparently much harder to lie and this is now being used for contracts That is the that is a good use of the technology I'm not sure if it holds up, but it certainly seems that way and here's a little interesting Promo from ad bank. What's that Bank? Let me show you right now If you're digital advertiser You give your money to a middleman He takes a huge chunk of it and gives the rest to a publisher adbank is the new platform that gets rid One guys take it it's yours grab it don't be shy How do we do it?

2:16:21 A peer-to-peer advertising platform built on the blockchain. Don't know what the blockchain is? Ask your nerdiest friend! The blockchain is a decentralized ledger distributed among... Not now, go hang out with horsemen. So how does this work without the middleman? You know how Uber doesn't own any cars? They built a platform that connects people together directly Well it would be so cliche if I were to say we were the uber of digital advertising so i won't say it but i'll sing it! We're the uber of digital advertising I hate it when people say that. So why does that matter? Well, we're 100% transparent open source and fully auditable Hey Adbank do we say how much we charge yep It's on the blockchain What about you middleman? I won't tell you Why does transparency matter

2:17:22 Fraud fraud fraud fraud 56% of all website traffic is bots 56 percent that's over half That means right now you're paying for pants, but you're getting pants stop getting pant robbed. I'll stop it here It was just too painful to hear she's like that guy who sang social What is that one song there? We let's get social Let's get social yeah It is a bit like that and of course you Make me want to play it and want to find it and play it. Let's get social with social media Everything is something or some gimmick Mary McCormack give it up Mary McCoy I am a shit-holder

CHAPTER 32 / 44 Discussion

Dame Heather, Birthday Shoutouts and Jingle Requests

Heather Simpkin is knighted as "Dame Heather of Love and Light." A young listener named Shania from Hawaii sends a birthday donation, leading to a discussion about Hawaiian culture and "racist" mocking of the language. Other donors, including Mark Magpayo and Douglas Chick, request various jingles such as "Hot Pockets" and clips of William Hague.

heather simpkin· shania· hawaii· hot pockets· william hague· knighthood

2:18:17 Yeah, so that's where advertising... So I think the advertising scam is pretty well known now with the advertising community. And so it gets stuff like this. It's not going to work, none of it is going to work I'm not a big fan of telling people how to cheat other people out of intellectual property but we did just that today There's no way! You have no way to monetize the network That is why we have a different way of doing it! We do owe a few people a thank

2:19:01 Starting with Heather Simpkin $140.04 She's gonna be a dame, Dame Heather of Love and Light Now she needs a de-douching I got that for her right here You've been de-douched I will read her note. She says, please accept my gratitude for your unwavering dedication to the enlightenment of the world not surprisingly or not unsurprisingly i would love to be known as Dame Heather of Love and Light. Nice! And wish it all upon you both Thank You Okay, well she's on the list. Beautiful! The other one I want to read because it came in as a card and has a birthday attached to it. Pretty sure the birthday got put on there for her dad now this card just see...I believe this is a youngster and I'm not absolutely sure where she's from but Shania is her name and she's in the check was from Oroville but this seems to be in Hawaii. Could also be Shana? Shane no I guess not Shania

2:20:02 Shania. Yeah, Shania. We'll keep it at Shania and she's makes a lot of reference I'm gonna read her card. She was probably born... Okay go ahead read the card Aloha to everyone that makes the best podcast in the universe possible Mahalo Nui Loi It is my birthday this month So when asked what I wanted for a gift, my answer was podcast license and a donation of one two three four five. Happy New Year everyone! The daughter of two moons Thunder Elk and Lick-a-la-li-a-lani.

2:20:48 My goal is to sit at the round table a special Mahalo Nia Loe to Eric for keeping the value for value records my second donation and what did I say? I have her down. I thought it was a birthday for dad, but it's her birthday Yeah, once you check that on the birthday list will double-check right now It just says Shania doesn't even have a date or location. I would know nothing no nothing. It's Shania with know nothin Double negative always good And she's, uh... Okay. Well anyway thank you for the note. Very nice card. You're just mocking! This is racist! Yes! Hello! You're mocking their Hawaiian language That's racist yeah I'm sure Everything is racist. Heath Novak $101.01 Thomas Von Borstel in Osterhaver. Osterhaver? It says Haver it should be Haver. You're right its Osterhaver

2:21:51 Make Angela Merkel great again. She's one of the... Yeah, make Angela Merkel great again! We have such an overlap. Hallo Deutschland with the Aufwachen podcast. Stefan and Tilo over there you guys are almost as striking as them. Make Angela Merkel great again right? Ben Smith in Greenville Texas $100. K5 SWC, seven threes. Kilo five alpha Charlie Charlie seven threes Michael pocket Paquette probably Paquette but it could be pocket but Paquette looks like to me a hundred dollars from North Sydney New South Wales Australia he's gonna be a knight

2:22:36 Black Knight Sir Mark Magpayo $100 should we read his his request there? His notes and she's going to be a knight. Okay, please give a shout out to Mike Newman who I hit in the mouth and becomes a night today into John Robinson who hit me in the mouth originally Jingle requests hot pockets creepy William Hague talking about the security and karma for John and Adam We play this something played at the end of this show Congratulations on 10 years of success in providing sanity mental health. Yeah, okay we'll play at the end Sir Black Knight sir Mark Magpio 100 Douglas Chick 9999 We do have a lot of 9999's which was the gimmick for this particular event It'll be a hundred for the next event and so I and we got a good number of them it's actually the majority donation today So i'm gonna read him name and location one after another

CHAPTER 33 / 44 Discussion

Sir Donald of Nines, Chiropractic Douchebags and Amygdala Recovery

A large group of donors contributing $99.90 or $99.99 are acknowledged, including Sir Donald of Nines and Sir James Knight of Da Region. Chris Wilding from South Africa calls out his chiropractor, Dr. Mike Marinus, as a "douchebag" for not donating. Debra Bradley shares how the show helped "normalize" her amygdala after two weeks of watching mainstream news with her father.

georgia· south africa· chiropractor· m5m· amygdala· knighthood

2:23:36 Sir Austin of Snowy Cascades and Sammamish. Douglas Gogoon in Westminster, Massachusetts. And he'll be a knight? He would be Sir Donald of Nines. Sir Donald of Nines. Chris Engler 99-99 Matthew Wittering 99-99 John Foleen Chicago Illinois Sir Chauncey of the Netherworld in New York City Michael Dougherty parts on sorry parts unknown Miss Jamie Lady Trucker of the Highways Jonathan Hess. And that concludes it, 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8... 9? Well I guess it was—there was nine though! That's kind of interesting. Nine niner niners?! Sir Vibing the Media on Sugar Hill Georgia 9991

2:24:26 Ron Kilgo, this is actually the donation that was of the gimmick was 99.90 The other one just we were just ad-libbing the nine cents. I really this is name and location Ron Kilgo in Suwannee Georgia Suwannee how I love you. How I'd love ya hi Kosan Santam a Santa my uncle Santa Ma from Houghton Houten Houten Gina Brown in Providence Village, Texas. Gavin Baud, parts unknown. Sir Charles Walters in Schaumburg, Illinois. Stefan A. Rett in Fellbach, Deutschland. Sir Alexander Beatty, parts unknown. James Chapko who's going to be a knight in Crown Pointe, Indiana.

2:25:19 He's gonna be Sir James Knight of the region. Did you read Sir Alexander Beatty's note? No, I didn't. ITM from Sir Alexander Beatty helper of man from afar been listening to old shows on the days of their anniversaries which are like to call anachrono- synchrono- synchronously Which is a chronic chronicle no and neck neck grown nosing growing it out now synchronously and that gross synchronously there we go a macro synchronously which is a shitty shithole hashtag

2:26:02 But it's a term he coined for listening to old podcasts in sync with the present. Because of this practice, I have found several peculiar events in No Agenda's history which seem to repeat themselves or at least have repercussions on or around the anniversary of those episodes." Confused? Read the book! For example...I was right about that by the way. I'm sure you saw the video of The Time Life Book People were tweeting it all over the place. Anyway, for example on an episode just after the 2016 presidential election Curry told us the exciting news that General Mike Flynn wanted a screener of Mark Hall's documentary about Fethullah Gulen killing Ed

2:26:43 Then almost exactly a year later in 2017, we learn that Flynn was being charged with conspiracy to kidnap Ghulen. Curry was right! This show does have major influence... And by the way I'm embarrassed and I'm embarrassed because I set that up you know? I set up for them together. Yeah, you forgot all about it like before we can't remember one thing from one week to the next What day is it?! You think I'm rereading these things from last week? Oh, you know. You know what? I got it up the b12. I'm slacking on my B-12 Yeah might want to get some back coppa bacopa yeah, back coppa Mm-hmm but Copa banna James Chapko

2:27:32 James Chapko, you know? You know about...you know James Chapko. He's in Crown Point Indiana. Yes I'm familiar. Stephen Hightower has a... And James will be a knight today he will be Sir James Knight of Da Region. Stephen Hightower 99 90 David Fugazotto 99 90 Sir Dirtbag Dave is back from Concord California 99.9, these are all 99.90s is a good group Mark Johnson parts of known Steven or Stefan Schwartz and burn Texas or Bernie Very good Bernie very good Ernie Texas John Cruz in East one a hatchet when I went to Chachi watching Washington Tim

2:28:24 Dwarian, boy this is a beauty. Dworianan. Dworianan. D-W-O-R-I-A-N Y-AN. You know how he introduces himself? Hi I'm Tim. Gordon Walton, Sir Victor of Alabama and Decatur Chris Wilding in Johannesburg, South Africa I guess. Greetings he says from shithole Africa! I'd like to call out Dr Mike Marinus as a douchebag! I hit him in the mouth some months back and we talk about no agenda each time he adjusts my neck He's a chiropractor but he never donates nor did I until today well thank you very much. The chiropractors make the big bucks they do

2:29:15 Anonymous, Sir Jan... also Sir Chris Jameson Sturgis Michigan. Bradley, Debra, Debra Bradley 9990 she has a kind of story here to tell Thanks for 999 shows my husband hit me in the mouth about five years ago was a bonus when he said that my crush from MTV days was a host Oh! We have been month donors for about four years. Best thing money can buy, all caps exclamation mark times five I had to spend two weeks with my father after he had a quadruple bypass surgery. He is a big M5M news watcher! I felt my brain melting and my amygdala growing from all the fake news and the microaggression comments, so this is money well spent to make my brain and amygdala normal again." Make your amygdala normal again. Thank you for all of the work that you do making it so we don't have to be afraid to walk out of the door anymore. James & Debra Bradley thank you both.

2:30:13 Richard Wren, 990. Pretty much the same note. Diana Carruthers, 990 in Tumwater Washington and that concludes our group of well-wishers for that little... Thank you very much for your courage. ...side, 999 in various ways now we have one kind of a sideways tit 8006 which is really the most normal type of boob donation you can receive I mean if you look across the board most Most women are 8006 is yeah, we're John Hawley Blaine Minnesota. He's got the 806 going on Eric Slier 6969 John Fitzpatrick and Herber Springs Arkansas 5999 Christopher Dector 5678 Brandy Kovach 5555 she needs a de-douching De-douche

CHAPTER 34 / 44 Discussion

Goat Meat, Culinary Racism and Slartibartfast

Following a donation from "Sir Slartibartfast," John Dvorak encourages listeners to try eating goat meat, claiming it is the most consumed meat globally but underappreciated in the U.S. due to "culinary racism." He provides cooking tips, suggesting a slow-cooked goat leg as a milder alternative to lamb. Adam Curry shares an anecdote about a San Francisco driver who kept a fresh goat in his trunk for a festival.

goat meat· slartibartfast· lamb· racism· whole foods· san francisco

2:31:12 My 12 year old son heard me listening to your show and asked you if I was still a douchebag. Sadly, I had to tell him yes please give his mama a de-douching he just got it Brandy so he can be proud again and a goat scream shout out to my son Jace for keeping the honest way to go Jace fine young American yeah good work are you a douche bag See, only in a no-agenda family household can you get away with that. Rick LaBanca in Hope, Rhode Island 5432. Trisha Lacour in Bangor, Pennsylvania 5353. I'm sorry we do need to look at Rick because he's in blue.

2:31:57 This donation walks me over the line. No agenda answers the question, is that just me? Or is it bullshit which is the source of your sanity recovery magic you won't read the book You both have superior depth of analysis well beyond the m5m and they have research staff to be honest We have tens of thousands of producers Can I get a jingle it has to be 999 rosy nyet or dealers choice at like pinotas sir Slartibar... What? Sir Slartibartfast. Sir Slartibartfast, there we go. Sir Slartifartbart... Slartibartfast, keeper of crinkly bits. Oh could the table provide goat... says chops. Goatchops and goat milk! Yeah I think so. Goatchops and goat milk. And I recommend it to people that try goat.

2:32:55 You recommend what goat meat? Oh really. Oh, huh Here's the thing about go me which is the most eaten meat in the world But you know They don't like it here because it's associated with minorities and it's got all kinds of bad realist way goats are racist Yeah I didn't realize that. So goat meat is what you want to get is you got it, here's what I'd recommend as starters. I'd get a goat leg like a leg of lamb or a goat and have it trimmed so there's no fur on it. Whoa whoa stop! Why take away the best part? You should skin the fur off at home its fun

2:33:40 No. And so you want it trimmed and you want to deboned and then tied, and then you can barbecue it I would recommend slow cook it for about two hours two-and-a-half hours maybe at the most yeah at the smoked not just over the grill Smoked racist racist It is absolutely what did people always think? It's like goat goat yeah Goat is like the mildest tastiest version of lamb you can imagine has no mutton qualities whatsoever It's very mild it goes into stew stews and all kinds that even do a lot with it. It's a great product And this underappreciated I buy my goat is at the law Muslim market They don't places that sell it and do get a discount if you mention Obama

2:34:30 I don't think so. You'd think you would, but i don't think they do that. This is a very interesting tip and... I thought we talked about goat on the show? No no! I would have remembered oh yeah um goat. You love it try goat i'm telling you try it. So can i just use any like recipe that would call for lamb and use goat instead? Yeah. I made a goat cheese pasta the other day which worked out really well Goat cheese is delicious but it doesn't taste like goat I mean, it's goaty. The milk is where you get that goat taste. You don't get it in the meat unless you leave the hair and burn the hair and singe it. That probably tastes stinks but... I'm a little disturbed that protective class is being skinned and eaten. Our emotional support goats are very upset by this trend you're trying to spark. Not trying to spark a trend as a worldwide phenomenon people eat more goat meat than they do anything else except here because it's racist somehow

2:35:28 Yeah. Could you look into that and fill us in on the next show? About the racism and goat meat? Yeah, I mean if i go to Whole Foods... Is my word good enough? If I go to Whole... yeah but it might make it entertaining for the show Yeah, and I'm interested. I didn't realize that Americans don't eat goat It's true you remember Tony the terrorist who used to drive me around in San Francisco? yeah, then one day he would pick me up at the airport when I was living in LA and One time he picked me up. He said oh Mr.. Adam mr. Adam is I can't put your suitcases in the trunk so why not ah well You know we have our big festival coming and um

CHAPTER 35 / 44 Discussion

Sorghum Grains, Socialized Systems and Show Evolution

The discussion on "racist" foods continues with sorghum, a grain primarily consumed in Africa that is difficult to find in American supermarkets. The hosts reflect on how No Agenda, despite its capitalistic roots, has evolved into a "socialized" system supported by its producers. They credit early contributors like Paul Couture for helping shape the show's unique culture of art and jingles.

sorghum· africa· capitalism· socialism· paul couture· jingles

2:36:08 I have goat in the back. He had a dead goat in the back But you know, he said I just picked it up because you want your go to be fresh you want fresh goat So yeah You're probably right the most of the world's population eats goat and here we use them as a teddy bear It's amazing Here is and here's what I wanted that listeners have to help me on this one cuz I haven't gotten anywhere with this I'm just wondering what it tastes like. But what is the most eaten grain in the world? The most... I mean, but I think okay rice is right at the top, wheat's up there but there's a third grain that is competitive with wheat and rice. Sorghum! Yes of course because we talked about sorghum before. You go to Whole Foods they got all this crazy stuff, they've got all kinds of obscure

2:37:03 Grains, you know things you eat starches. You can't find sorghum anywhere Hmm is it also racist? I think so most sorghum is eaten in Africa this is we can well there you go shithole sorghum Yeah, shit tastes like I want to get some okay um when did we see sorghum oh But the last time we saw Sorghum was somebody sent me the bag, an empty bag of sorghum so I could take a photo of it. It was at Bang Bang and... Dame Banger, yes you're right. And her boy. Yeah, her boy. Racist again! Anyways

2:37:46 Onward. Did you say anyways? I said anyways. Trisha LaCour in Bangor, Pennsylvania 5353. I did Rick LeBront yeah you read his note Diane Daniel 5033 now the following people are all $50 donors true name and location as applicable starting with Trevor Hoagland in Portland Oregon Derek Boggs, Parts Unknown. Dame Patricia Worthington who coughs up $50 every month from Miami and we appreciate that. Drenden Savoie in Port Orchard Washington he should be a knight by now. John Haller in Missoula Montana and that's it but we don't have one two three four five well they came up short on that one but everyone made it up forward with the 99s

2:38:36 the like. Ah, fantastic! We want to thank these folks for producing this show and I love that when we have a good showing with the producers with their financial support that we're really all collectively happy for us, for them, for the show you know unlike if uh...you know you bring in the big advertiser who's been sucking off the advertisers they forget about the programming You know? And we're constantly reminded that this is by the producers, for the producers Yes, and when you made a good point earlier which is the networks they got these big staffs of paid. We've got a bigger staff in reality.

2:39:17 I mean, if we make a mistake there's at least 10 people tell us. Anyone who works in the M5M and i'm sure we have a number of them in the production audience just go in and say hey I want five jingles produced for it just give him a week even if you give him two weeks! I'd like five jingles... I want jingles that are funny about shithole, I want jingles that are funny about bitcoin, I want jingles that are funny Bing it. Yeah, all of this stuff yeah get nothing not one Maybe you'd get one and it would cost $50,000 residuals the grand residuals you have My fees you got licensing issues All this nightmare yeah so now will we get rich no We're not good. We're never gonna be done the system It's crazy interestingly enough that a purely capitalistic group like us because we are

2:40:15 Straight up, straight up caps baby. Wind up actually creating a very socialized type of system Yes very social And I'm sure that you Let's get social, social media Let's get social Social media I'm sure that you also donate to some websites who provide...you know that you get information from Everybody does You know, and that's the system. And the system is working! Not everybody can be in the system... No actually everybody can be in this system and everybody can make what is necessary for them to create it It's a great system but it is interesting that its very socialized I won't say socialist, it's socialized

2:41:03 Yeah, well it evolved into this. We've actually had a good basis for all this and then it kind of took its... It's like when you're writing a novel sometimes it just takes the- It takes a crazy turn! It'll take life on its own and that's what the show did when people started sending us jingles I mean the artwork was pushed by two guys mainly Paul Couture and uh... What are the other ones? Eat it for he's doesn't listen anymore reason lives an overboard and They put up the websites into this other stuff. And the next thing you know, I was doing tremendous work Yeah, and then The jingles are outrageous yet the gene yeah all of it all of it. And so really congratulations to all of you for 999 episodes You've been a big you've been you've been the show

2:41:59 And I feel, I have to say hashtag blessed over here. That's how i feel How do you feel John? Hashtag blessed? Hashtag blessed We really appreciate the support and also thank you to our executive and associate executive producers who get a triple credit on show 1000. That will be the show coming up on Thursday, it's a big day we're really proud of the work we've all done together and we look forward to meeting you again for that one please go to vorac.org slash and let's hand out the karmas that are needed jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs you've got karma

CHAPTER 36 / 44 Discussion

Peerage Upgrades, Birthday List and Final Knighting

The final knighting ceremony for Episode 999 includes peerage upgrades for Sir Roag (Baron of the Palouse) and Sir Isaac (Baron of Altadena). The hosts announce the birth of Michalina Gardner and read a list of birthdays. The segment concludes with the traditional "Hookers and Blow" style list of rewards for the new knights and a reminder to pick up rings at NoAgendaNation.com.

michalina gardner· sir roag· baron of altadena· knighthood· peerage· rings

2:42:56 And here we go with our list for today. We start off with Sir Andrew Gardner, whose very first daughter, Michalina... Michalina Gardner was born on Friday. Just a nice little tidbit she weighed 330-300... no wait 3,330 grams at birth close enough to the magic number for me Congratulations and welcome, Michalina Gardner to Givemo Nation. Sir Chris Engler says happy birthday to his father Fritz Engler he turned 73 Derek Boggs will be celebrating on the 14th is that today? Boom yes it is! Happy Birthday. We have Tricia LaCour saying happy birthday to her husband Steve

2:43:35 Steve LaCour turns 53. Diana Carothers says happy birthday to Keith Charlie, he celebrates on the 16th and finally today we say happy birthday to Shania and that is from your buddies here at The Best Podcast in the Universe! Okay as you might expect We have some titles And we have Some nights So let me just nice yeah, get everything organized. Let me get this I got my sword ready Yeah for a change hold on a second i'm not ready now Just gotta separate the knights from the titles there we go where's your sword? Oh it's right here sound a little bit weak That's mine that's mine pull yours out again. I have to put it back Pull it out again you ready pull it out. Yeah here comes okay kind of good

2:44:26 All right, here we go. It's quite the list we need on the stage here on the podium Thaddeus Parker Thomas Newman Heather Simpkin Michael pocket Donald Gauguin, Israel Cazares Michael Halbey's dad Come on. Dad come on up here Jerry Zack Nancy mixo miss misco John Jolly Squire stickton and Rick LaBanca and James Chapko everybody stand up here because you are all about to be inducted into the Noah Jenner roundtable for the Knights of the Dames this is where You receive your ring where you are Here to protect Gitmo Nation

2:45:03 And I hereby proudly pronounce the KB Sir gatekeeper sir Michael of third world Southeast Asia Jane Heather of love sir hot pocket of get donation down under sir Donald's of nine sir night of the blind stick and user of service goats Sir, how mr. Michael Halby's dad sir Michael Halby's dad yes care of Michael Halby Sir Wasteless Lost Baronet of Timber Hill Dame Nancy of New Jersey, Sir Prize Surprise! Sir Sticton of the Westside Villages. Sir Slarty Bartfast and Sir James Knight of the Region for you we have the following as always and we love bringing you The Rent Boys and Chardonnay The Hookers & Blow, The Goatchops & Goat Milk Polish Potato Vodka Wow I can barely

2:45:48 barely get through this diet soda and video games fish pie and fellatio nice harlots and how doll brown cheese aqua beat in smaller hova redheads and rise organic Marconi and plasticizers beer and blunts Brazilian hotties and chakka kasasha cowgirls and coffin varnish we've got malt vinegar and manual transmissions Nicaraguan cigars rolled in Panama papers sake and sushi with wasabi and soy sauce on the side strong black coffee and chocolate chip cookies, labia and lasagna whiskey in bacon saffron spice sake and skanks fry breads and fem bots root beer and pepperoni pizza. And of course, ginger ale and gerbils and mutton and meat which tastes nothing like goat please head over to knowageinthenation.com slash rings pick up your special ring and thank you very much for producing episode niner niner niner have the best podcast in the universe

2:46:48 Come gather round, douchebag, producer and slave As we all thank your brothers and sisters who gave And some of them nights Some of them days For the time And our black knight of the Okanogan Plains, Sir Roag becomes Black Knight and Baron of the Palouse. And Sir Isaac of Altadena becomes The Baron of Altadena Congratulations to both of you for your peerage upgrade and also thank YOU for supporting this show Next show... Show 1000 1K baby

CHAPTER 37 / 44 Discussion

War on Tamiflu, Pharmaceutical Side Effects and Flu Season

John Dvorak declares a "War on Tamiflu," citing reports of severe side effects in children, including hallucinations and psychosis. He argues that the pharmaceutical industry and the government push flu shots over antiviral treatments for financial reasons. Despite the negative reports, Dvorak defends the efficacy of Tamiflu if taken within the first 48 hours of symptoms, while Curry reads a list of potential allergic reactions.

tamiflu· flu shot· bbc· hallucinations· psychosis· pharmaceutical industry

2:47:31 That will be on Thursday, and we appreciate your support at Dvorak org slash na yep. Yep. Yeah. Yep Okay There's a war there's a world as well is the war there's a war there's a war was a war The War on Tamiflu there is I like to hear about this war. I do have an update. I want just oh Want to play my flu updates very short okay of the 49 states where the flu is widespread these 36 are the hardest hit California has had 42 adult deaths up from 9 last year Kentucky 36 deaths up from 4 and Oklahoma more than four times as many now I do what wait. I just want to say oh

2:48:26 Hey everybody, have a good time at CES. Have a great time! If you haven't had the flu yet you'll have it. Everyone's coming back with the flu which means all of Silicon Valley will be down Yeah They'll be down That's what I'm thinking We got a dude named Ben Down. I mean if you're not gonna catch the flu at CES, that's a crowd it's a wrong year flu this is the worst flu season luckily everybody in our family had it we got we all had Tamiflu ready to go and kept us from having any real problems well get the sickest problem now we know that the pharmaceutical companies really want you to get your flu shot

2:49:04 The government wants you to get your flu shot. So... Because what? Money in the bank! Oh, yes well we can't have that Like so many others it was a flu diagnosis that came with a choice whether or not to take Tamiflu the next day. She was found dead in her bedroom, and she's been taken to a hospital for a second round of treatment. But an Allen family who wants to remain anonymous says the side effects on their six year old were stunning hallucinations running away from school and in attempt they believe to hurt herself Second story window was opened which climb up onto it and then she was about to jump out the window when my wife came up and grabbed her. They took her to the hospital where a doctor informed them that nervous system problems including psychosis can be a very rare side effect of Tamiflu

2:49:53 Emergency room physician Dr. Glenn Hardesty It can happen less than 1% is what's listed in the data sheet so I've been in practice 20 years and I haven't seen that particular complication it is written in the fine print and Dr. Hardesty says there's always a chance of a side effect with any drug The little girl's parents say they wish they had known I don't think the 16 hours of symptom relief from the flu the possible side effects that we went through. His message for parents, do your homework before taking Tamiflu. Know that side effects are there for a reason they're written down for a reason I guess they can happen and we got to short end of the stick. I don't know much about nothing

2:50:44 But I know that not a lot of television news reporters will take on an anti-pharmaceutical story unless there's a bigger pharmaceutical behind the story. Hold on a second before you, and I want to hear this but something came up in that and I realize that this has been going for awhile because... Well, you're taking away my thunder! No, no. You're taking away my thunder. When I say you're taking away my thunder... Thunder has been taken away! This is the BBC. This is BBC News, the headlines at 3 o'clock. Doctors urge a rethink on giving Tamiflu to children as new research says it can do more harm than good. We would need to treat 13 children to prevent one getting influenza so fairly small effect on preventing transmission

2:51:36 Yeah It's worldwide, baby. The Thunder was that clip is from 2009 because yes This is happening every year they come out with these bogatyr stories That wasn't quite my point but I've just realized in that first clip They said something and said oh my god. They've been saying this a lot and it's not true Okay, the guy in the first clip says it's not worth taking a chance for 16 hours of yes That's what he said. Yes 60 hours of release from the simp relief of the symptoms that is such bullcrap Because that was in this script This is this is pharma versus Pharma come on I take in Tamiflu probably I've taken and this and his co-partner relenza

2:52:36 Probably, I don't know 10 more. I've taken it for decades as a flu once I started taking flu shots. I do want to point out that you're ending your life as a podcaster so i wouldn't say it's a miracle drug? Well not calling it a miracle drug but what it does is technically what these drugs do is they keep the flu virus from reproducing during the period of time you're taking the drugs. And so whatever effect, whatever flu level you're at that's why you always want to keep some on hand freezes like as you got a little cough or something oh this is the flu I can tell and when you start taking it right there that's as far as the flu is going to progress

2:53:21 for the five days that you take the Tamiflu. If you let it get further and your coughing and hacking, then you have a fever? That's where it freezes they figure that after two days You're too far gone It's not going to do any good But if you catch it in the first 48 hours, you can freeze it in place during that time period I've talked to doctors about this And they don't argue this explanation After the five days, your body has worked up a bunch of an immune response because this thing is lingering there and not reproducing but still in your system for the five days. You stop taking it, the flu spikes a little bit but your immune system's all ready for it and knocks it out you're done. And so you never really have the flu that knocked down dragged out flu. This is not 16 hours!

2:54:11 Tamiflu side effects. First of all, get emergency medical help if you have any of these signs of an allergic reaction to tamiflu chest pain or tightness, difficulty breathing, fever sore throat swelling in your face or tongue burning in your eyes or hive skin skin pain followed by a red or purple skin rash that spreads especially in the upper in the face or upper body and causes blistering and peeling. Some people using Tamiflu have had rare side effects of sudden confusion shaking problems with speech hallucinations Hearing or seeing things that are not there seizures these symptoms have occurred most often in children But it is not known whether Tamiflu was the exact cause interesting habit but I'm pretty sure that this is something that The flu shot guys make encourage

2:55:05 Yes, they don't want people taking Tamiflu. Oh no and I don't see that why in this shot you shot get the shot Doesn't work this year's shot by the way doesn't work but get it anyway exactly By the way, I should mention something that they don't do which i think they should do. If you want to see if I was marketing The Flu Shot against Tamiflu, I'd point out the fact that Tamiflu is like a hundred bucks. Well maybe that'll start now? Well... But I'm keeping my eye on it! I feel there's a war on Tamiflu. You're probably right and I don't blame them because this is like this is a cash flow business as the flu vaccine is

CHAPTER 38 / 44 Discussion

CES 2018, Smart Toilets and Bathroom Etiquette

The 2018 Consumer Electronics Show (CES) featured a $6,500 smart toilet from Kohler that responds to voice commands. The hosts mock the "connected home" trend, sharing frustrations with Philips Hue lights and AI assistants. The discussion devolves into bathroom etiquette, with Dvorak insisting that everyone should close the toilet lid before flushing to prevent the spread of germs, especially on airplanes.

ces· amazon echo· kohler· smart home· philips hue· airplane toilets

2:55:48 You mentioned CES, I do have a clip and i have something to say about this. Oh Ben, I want to warn everybody this clip definitely triggers your device...your Amazon device. Coming soon to a gadget near you and some of it. It makes a ton of sense, I mean Amazon's Echo Google Home they've been such big hits. Of course we're seeing it come to every shape and size of smart home speaker and screen now it's showing up in new TVs earbuds my car

2:56:26 Cars make sense because it's hands-free and robots because well, I mean it's natural to talk to them Right but are we really ready to talk to our toilet? In this race for the crown jewel of smart home control Kohler's Polar's latest high-end NuMe toilet might just take the throne. You can ask it to heat up the seat, lift the lid, play your favorite tunes and of course flush! Okay get it all out potty humor but of all jokes go ahead you know you want too then just think about how great its finally gonna be in that age old argument between men and women everywhere to please put the toilet seat down see that isn't magical amazing watch one more time

2:57:10 One more time, it goes up right and then it goes down. Comprende? And hands-free I mean seriously talk about a germaphobe's dream come true so as much as I really want to mock it I would buy it in a heartbeat if I won the lottery! I mean it's gonna be about 6500 bucks. Yeah that's the level of reporting we get from CES um I'm not really a big fan of all these connected devices, you know the connected home. It's uh... it's very dumb! Very dumb!! I'll give you an example of the lights. So, I have the Philips Hue lights which I like with the app and you can kind of set scenes in the house and that's nice. And then you can connect your Amazon talking tube to it but here is this incredible smart AI machine learning sometimes it thinks when I say what's her face turn the lights on she thinks I'm saying turn them off

2:58:11 And then she says, okay. And nothing happens because it's so smart with all the AI that she doesn't even know how to check to see if they're on or not I mean this is... It's not a smart system and you lose your internet and then we can't turn your lights on its dumb It's done. Here's another thing that kind of bothers me I've seen these ads where the guys got one of these devices and he says turn my lights on, the lights come on Do you think anybody goes and buys one of these things? And just puts it in the house and says turn my lights on without setting up the house with these smart lights? And just says turn my lights on expect them to go on Oh no You gotta... I do! You gotta turn on the app

2:58:55 and then you got to go press the button on the hub. I think there are people out there that buy this thing thinking they can put it in their kitchen and ask them to turn the lights on and off, change channels on the TV. Yeah magic! And flush your toilet One's my toilet one thing about the toilet. I don't want this things defective is not flushing my toilet So that was a very gender biased Joke that they put in there about the toilet seat, and I have something to say about that Having grown up with women my sisters my mom women around me the whole time yeah And lots of gay guys so did they also sit down to pee lot of them? Not kidding the the toilet

2:59:34 Everyone, so instead of toilet seat up or down there's a lid on the toilet and the lid is there for a reason. One so when you walk in the bathroom you don't look down the gaping shithole I mean that's literally a shit hole You close the lid it's nice yeah is much nicer and you could just sit on it It's inviting if your hanging out there Yeah you can sit on the lid And men and women both Close the lid. Both and then there's no age old argument, and women do not have any standing to win this argument Everybody closes the lid also you close the lid before you flush gee I wonder why

3:00:14 Do people, do they? I mean, I don't understand like oh a flush it with the lid off so all the feces and shithole stuff comes up and just spreads throughout your whole bathroom. It's disgusting! So you'd... And this is an argument that a lot of our producers have with their partners and spouses. Yeah, yeah. I think he made your point but i have to extend your point. This is one of the No Agenda tips we've had numerous tips today including how to read The New York Times on the private browser When you're on an airplane, never flush that thing without the lid closed. Oh! No kidding? Because it's an explosive flush mechanism that will splash all over the place if you're not careful Yeah Yes But also never flush it when you're sitting on it guys

CHAPTER 39 / 44 Discussion

Social Media Backlash, Facebook Algorithms and SFO Mishaps

A perceived backlash against social networks is discussed, highlighted by Facebook's decision to prioritize content from friends and family over news, which caused a stock dip. The hosts also report on another "close call" at San Francisco International Airport (SFO) involving an Aeromexico plane that nearly landed on the wrong runway.

facebook· barack obama· algorithms· sfo· aeromexico· advertising fraud

3:01:11 You could have a very unfortunate accident. The suction is tremendous and it could suck you out! You wind up one of those blue balls of ice on someone's roof. All right, all right um I wanted to uh point out i think that we're seeing a What's the word I'm looking for? A, not lashback. A backlash! Well... Backlash against the social networks. You heard President Obama speaking about the algos popping out of your screen and ripping your face off especially if you're watching Fox News or foxnews.com

3:01:53 He was very specific about that. I think there's a backlash in progress and it's seeping into popular culture, and it's going to become a problem for the facebags and the Twitters. Where did all this come from? I read on Facebook five things you should give up for happier life Was number one Facebook? That's the TV show Mom. There are a lot of examples of this and it is happening more and more And Facebook I think made a big mistake, I don't know if there is a strategy behind it but they came out and said we're gonna make sure that there is more stuff from your friends and your family in your feed The stock dropped like $15? Like you know 5 or 6% I didn't follow this Yeah because yeah that means the advertisers were like what?! What!

3:02:41 There's such a scam operation. If you buy video ads, they give you statistics and do you know what they consider a view? How many seconds of video viewed is a view? Five seconds! Three. Wow! One Mississippi, two Mississippi, three Mississippi... that's not a view And these are auto plays Yeah it's total scam but there's a backlash and it's coming and it's swelling and I can feel it and it's good Yeah, I'm not seeing it personally. I don't think it's gonna happen Okay, I've been around got a couple of offbeat items another SFO mishap Oh What was this going on? A lot? The close call yet again at San Francisco Airport an Aeromexico passenger plane forced to abort its landing Nearly coming down on the wrong runway with another plane right there in the path controllers ordering the plane to go around

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NextGen Air Traffic Control, Privatization and Infrastructure

The U.S. aviation system faces significant infrastructure challenges, with major airports like JFK and Hartsfield-Jackson experiencing recent power outages and flooding. The discussion covers the "NextGen" air traffic control system, which uses satellite-based GPS (ADS-B) rather than 1950s-era radar. There is a push in Congress to privatize air traffic control and increase passenger facility charges to fund $100 billion in needed upgrades.

faa· nextgen· ads-b· privatization· infrastructure· jfk airport

3:03:41 No, I didn't hear this. I do have... Look at where they started off another and the SFO has these constantly! I have a clip related to this that made me pause for a moment about some of these big disasters we've had at airports you know power outages and bad things happening uh you know that we i've been tracking the next gen system which is yes you have which uh i'm not a fan of Well, the ultimate plan is to get pilots out of the cockpit which I think is ludicrous. Your theory is that everything's about pilotless planes? Yeah because humans can't be trusted. Humans cannot be trusted so they need to go and the next gen system works with ADS-B…

3:04:26 And which you can already follow, that's how a lot of these apps work with tracking these planes. So there is a partial ground radar based system and then transmitting GPS coordinates to ground stations as well as to satellites and separation will be handled by the system, whatever the system is. You know how we'll be making sure that there's sufficient spacing and everything works according to plan but there's a little more behind these well to the story I think they're related if you have not noticed chaos at America's airports has made headlines recently last weekend we reported about one air traffic controller with what he called it quote

3:05:07 horror show at JFK Airport here in New York City. Dozens and dozens of planes sat on the tarmac for hours filled with passengers, thousands of bags were delayed or never made it to their destinations people slept at the airport for a couple days and then a water main broke flooding the international terminal So weeks before that, the world's busiest airport, Hartsfield in Atlanta lost power cancelling more than 1150 flights. The recent airport fiascos are underscore the infrastructure concerns at our nation's airports so the American Society of Civil Engineers recently gave our nation's airports a D grade. Airport congestion is on the rise creating a drag on the economy and ASCE says it's expected that 24 of the top 30 major airports in this country may soon experience Thanksgiving peak traffic volume at least one day every week, and if you look at this graphic last month The Nation's Airports released a report saying they require

3:06:08 $100 billion in infrastructure needs between now and 2021 because of this congestion. That price tag has gone up 32% in just two years. Airports want Congress to eliminate caps on passenger facility charges they want the FAA to allow them to charge more than the max $4.50 per passenger so that they can invest that money in infrastructure Meanwhile, there are efforts to modernize our air traffic control systems The president wants to privatize air traffic stripping the responsibility from the Federal Aviation Administration and giving that responsibility To an independent non-governmental

3:06:47 Satellite radar technology? Oh, really no. Satellite radar. Yeah, these satellites got a radar on it that works handling the so-called next gen program Which is updating our 1950s era? Radar systems to satellite radar technology which would lead to less delays and more efficient performance And they hope to be done by 2025 and you know currently Mike there's a 48 member bipartisan congressional group called the problem solvers caucus They met on Tuesday they're trying to draft a trillion dollar infrastructure bill We'll see what happens

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Las Vegas Shooting Investigation, Search Warrants and Accomplice Theories

New details from unsealed search warrants in the Las Vegas massacre investigation reveal emails between Steven Paddock and an unidentified person regarding "bump stocks" and weapon stashes. The warrants suggest the possibility of an accomplice, contradicting the initial "lone wolf" narrative. The hosts reiterate their theory that the event was an arms deal gone wrong, noting the lack of transparency from Sheriff Joe Lombardo and the FBI.

steven paddock· las vegas· fbi· search warrant· joe lombardo· gun running

3:07:37 Yeah, what's gonna happen is your tickets price is gonna go up and nothing will change in the infrastructure That's exactly you've got a one. You've gotta wonder if they're like about power went out What's this plug? I don't plug it in for a bit and see we can raise the fees on the stupid slaves Let's kind of how do you do it kinda? I have one serious clip left and then if you have something fun to leave us on a high note, unlike the last show. So depressing... This is about the Vegas Massacre which is the largest mass killing event in US history The least known about event in U.S. history And I hand it to the local Vegas M5M peeps

3:08:30 They are really pressuring everyone there. They want, there's all kinds of documents that are sealed A request for a warrant from a special agent from the FBI was unsealed or leaked or I don't know how it got out But we now know some interesting details about Steven Paddock and his girlfriend, and emails they were sending back and forth. October 13th Sheriff Joe Lombardo holds his last press conference about the Las Vegas massacre at the same time the police department he leads goes silent on the investigation Metro has for weeks now refused to release public records it's that silence that led to the media lawsuit to unseal public records tonight metro is talking but

3:09:15 through their law firm. Police are opposing the release of 14 search warrants served in the hours and days after the Route 91 attack, and here's why. Despite the death of Steven Paddock there remains an active criminal investigation that's from Metro's private attorney Jackie Nichols who opposes public disclosure Please stop asking your question. Media attorneys have argued that without an ongoing search for suspects or a pending criminal trial, that the public has a right to know how police worked to protect them. Metro disagrees quote the government's interest in confidentiality clearly outweighs petitioners need to learn as much as possible about the government's response to the one October massacre. That's metros claim but why? In their filing metro says

3:10:05 Access would reveal investigative techniques used by law enforcement. We do know that detectives obtained this search warrant in an effort to seize a Gmail account with the subscriber name of Steven Paddock. In it, police wanted all internet search history for one of Paddock's phones from between September 1st and October 3rd three days after Paddocks death And on the importance of privacy, this. That it's another factor weighing against public access to warrant materials during the pre-indictment stage of an investigation." The pre indictment stage? The need for continued secrecy all because of the possibility of an indictment that is new information tonight and it suggests maybe a possible accomplice to Steven Paddock who were told committed suicide

3:10:51 Maybe we'll get some answers. The media hearing to unseal the search warrants is next Tuesday before Judge Alyssa Kadish will be covering it." And I have a copy of the search warrant, which i'm trying to open... This is quite interesting Yeah! I'm trying to open this for some reason that's- Why are you mutining against me? Let me see. Let me see Hmm okay well like I have to paraphrase it So there were two email accounts, very similar in nature. It was like you know worldtraveler1 and worldtraveler4008 both at live.com Who uses who uses live.com?

3:11:32 Should've done Hotmail, it would have been even funnier. Or AOL dot com And it was like hey I got tons of great stuff You should try out an AR with a bump stock We have a big stash in Vegas you can come take a look This is going back and forth between two email accounts that he apparently owned Then his girlfriend said oh yeah if you're looking at the forensics this is the one that FBI said don't worry about it stay Where was she Singapore Thailand Wherever she was yes, you went to don't worry about it And now we hear that she said well if you're doing forensics on the bullet casings Yeah, you may find my fingerprints because I helped him load a lot of magazines But she wasn't involved in that interesting as a witness. This is bull crap

3:12:20 What's your latest thesis? And it, well the thesis is only strengthened that he was dealing weapons and it was an arms deal gone bad. If this evidence is true and correct I don't know that but according to the evidence we have now from the... It's the only thing that makes any logical sense! Yeah yeah um and it really points to the gun running again you know that there was knowledge and I understand how they could do what- They had numerous drills in the two weeks before this happened, for a mass shooting event. Well these drills suck! I mean how could you do the drill and then the real thing happens? And you don't show up for an hour?! Where was the SWAT team where was the elite SWAT team that everyone keeps talking about that trained so hard to do this? There's a whole book in this. Mmm right after The Vinegar Book we should do it

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Tonya Harding, I Tonya Movie and Parenting Styles

The film "I, Tonya" and the real-life relationship between Tonya Harding and her mother, LaVona Golden, are discussed. Allison Janney's portrayal of the mother is praised for its accuracy. The segment includes clips of the real LaVona defending her "tough parenting" and Harding recounting being beaten with a hairbrush for not landing jumps, prompting the hosts to share their own childhood memories of discipline.

tonya harding· allison janney· olympics· abuse· hairbrush· parenting

3:13:19 Okay, deal. Alright John make me happy All right let's see what we got we got a couple of things here left over Which one of these would make you happy? We have the Tanya I get a good clip about Tonya Harding Oh Tina and her daughter at least saw it they said was a great movie well Here's a little background on it and do I want to preface this I didn't cut out the end of this little report Because it is a great movie. And mainly because of Janney, the woman who plays Tonya Harding's mom I didn't realize until they showed in this clip They have the mom who is estranged from Tonya Harding and she not only looks like her she talks like her It's outrageous how good she was as an actress

3:14:00 She should win the Academy Award. Tanya Harding in the headlines, the Olympics of course approaching and that new movie about her much of the movie depicts a troubled relationship with her mother tonight here Amy Robach and the interview with Tanya Hardings' mother and Tanya Harding herself on whether scenes like this one are accurate Hey, stop talking to her. Yeah that girl is your enemy." Tonight Tanya Harding her story depicted in the new film I, Tanya talking about her difficult relationship with her mother How would you describe your mom as a mothe? Not a good one. I know she probably did the best that she probably could If there's no you can't do it type thing She won't do it. She'd be nothing

3:14:46 Her tough parenting captured in this 1986 documentary. For years, Harding has accused her mother of abuse. She's a good mother but she's not a good mother. She hits me and she beats me And tonight we're hearing from Hardings estranged mother LaVonna, A former waitress I was working right around the clock morning noon and night trying to get the money for her to skate and have lessons Tanya's mother insists she was no child abuser I didn't abuse any of my children. Spanked, yes! Spanked absolutely positively You've got to show them right from wrong, but that's not how Tanya remembers it when I was young. I remember she drugged me into the bathroom and Beat me with a hairbrush Literally what had you done? That made your mom go off on you with a hairbrush. Oh, it wasn't landing my jumps perfect and if I

3:15:48 That was it, that's it. One time I spanked her once with a hairbrush at a competition. Stop that! Harding says actress Allison Janney's portrayal of her mother is spot on. Hold on a second... My mom used to spank us with a hairbrush and she had a threat that went along with it. Yeah? She said, Adam Clark Curry when she knew she was pissed. Adam Clark Curry if you do that I will spank you with the hairbrush bristle side down! That wasn't done in the movie. But the thing, the discrepancy here is that mom says all the spankings were to teach them right from wrong Does that include how to land a jump? Come on! We're so old John The old woman just seems like a real battle axe We're so old Is what you say How old are we?! How old are we!? That we remember the original meaning of taking a knee Hey-o

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Dr. Eugene Gu, Twitter Shadowbanning and Tide Pod Challenge

Dr. Eugene Gu, a medical resident and activist, is suing President Trump for blocking him on Twitter. The hosts discuss "shadowbanning" and how to check if a user has been restricted. The segment also covers the "Tide Pod Challenge," a dangerous internet fad where teenagers bite into laundry detergent pods, leading to a 20% increase in calls to poison control centers.

eugene gu· twitter· shadowban· tide pods· poison control· trump

3:16:51 Now that you brought that up, I do have the kicker. There's this Asian doctor Gu. He's been put on probation because he's apparently a racist of some sort, because he was trying to stop white supremacy. And everyone has to assume that he hates Whitey. But there is a kicker in this story—see if you can spot it? This is Dr. Gu and white supremacy. In Nashville, Tennessee, a medical resident famous for his political activism is challenging the Vanderbilt University Medical Center after he was suspended for two weeks over what he says was a Twitter post critical of white supremacy.

3:17:28 In November, Dr. Eugene Goo tweeted a photo of himself taking a knee and raising a fist with the caption, "'I'm an Asian American doctor,' and today I take the knee to fight white supremacy." Dr. Gu says he was placed on paid administrative leave after the mother of one of his patients complained about the photo, Dr. Gu has over 100 thousand Twitter followers and has long been outspoken on social issues who was previously subpoenaed to testify to Congress over his research on fetal tissues and is also suing President Trump for blocking him on Twitter. What? Great kicker! I like that. That's good

3:18:09 Oh, that's funny. Suing Trump for blocking him on Twitter? Wow! Yeah... We got this guy, this bio guy who keeps- he donates quite a bit to the show and he keeps telling me to unblock him. I can't find- I never can find him and then he never says- He keep saying you should unblock me, never gives me the Twitter handle. But did you see my reply to him earlier in the week? I said give me the twitter handle otherwise it'll never happen and he replied with the twitter handles. Is squirrel mail not to show that? I didn't get it. Yeah, mm-hmm Well he should well he's writing to me Why doesn't give me the Twitter handle note after note after note because if you look him up There's there's a million guys with that name yeah when he's he's borderline insulted And just on that i'm just going to my twitter feed someone posted there's a Apparently there's a username and if you look at that username and that user has blocked you

3:19:09 Then you're shadow banned on the tweeters. Shadow ban from what? Well, shadow ban from a lot I don't know or you potentially will be shadow banned trying to... So Trump blocks you? No no no there's some special address i'm scrolling through my timeline and can find it quick enough maybe someone in the troll room will have it um and if you go look at that guys account and he has blocked you and I've never seen this account I have no idea who it is Then apparently you can be or will be soon shadow banned, or you're on the shit list I don't know. It was just interesting that i was blocked by him That's why yeah, that's why i'd like to have it so i don't know it's way down there Yeah, but i don't know what his name was

3:20:00 I got one last clip if you want to play it. It's the stupidest, stupidest clip of the day. Okay? Apparently kids so they can go on YouTube and they're stupidly eating packs of Tide detergent supposedly. I'm dubious about this report In an earlier time they might have been swallowing goldfish now teenagers are pursuing a much more dangerous potentially deadly fad here's Anna Warner Internet fame is driving the latest teen fad, biting into detergent pods. But the so-called Tide Pod Challenge can kill those colorful detergent packs are highly concentrated and poisonous

3:20:45 So far this year, there's been a 20% jump in the calls to poison control centers from teens exposed to laundry pods. Half of the 40 calls were due to intentional misuse. The problem goes beyond attention-seeking teenagers. Finely colored pods can be mistaken for candy, as this photo shows. The Consumer Product Safety Commission says two toddlers ate them and died. Seniors with dementia are vulnerable too – eight died after eating the packs! And I'm wondering about its validity, but somebody's out to get these tide pods hmm I don't know. I do have a little lecture to give about Detergent sometime I would someone save it for the Thursday show this show 1000 go if you go to your tweeter I have the name now okay? So you want to look for at William Legate w il li am le g ate William legate

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Outro, Episode 1000 Teaser and End of Show Mix

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak conclude Episode 999, teasing the upcoming 1000th episode on Thursday. They sign off from Austin and Silicon Valley, respectively, as the "Angry Men." The show ends with an extensive musical mix featuring themes of "shithole countries," "Bing It," and the Hawaii missile alert.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· episode 1000· austin· silicon valley· shithole

3:21:49 W-I-L-L-I-M L-E G-A-T-E. Okay, well I don't have Twitter on this machine so... Oh okay okay okay well his name is William Deep State Legate and he has a Twitter checkmark verified and i am blocked from viewing his tweets But you know how you can still view them, right? Yeah of course. That's a tip. Oh gee! Just log out. Yeah yeah that's a great tip John thanks Some people might not know that No that's true some people might not Alright everybody that concludes episode 9er 9er 9er of the best podcast in the universe We have quite a bevy of end-of-show mixes for ya so uh... Kirsh stay tuned for that

3:22:39 And we'll be back just when you thought your week would be ho-hum so-so, no no! Episode 1000 baby. T minus one. That's right. Mahalo balakahane episode 1000 And I look forward to that and please remember us for that show at Dvorak org slash na until then coming to you from downtown Austin, Texas The capital of the drone star state in shithole nation in the common law condo the 5 by 9 Cluedio in the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry man from northern Silicon Valley where I've got my Remember that thing with a big tower and head up speakers on the top? I forgot what that was called a giant speaker or something That's what this is

3:23:24 I'm John C. Dvorak The Giant Voice System The Giant Voice System Talk to you on Thursday, everybody for episode 1000 Until then Adios! Mofos Well it's the people's corner created by geeks And you can see it double for half an hour a week That's why there'll never be money No no There will never be money Honey You don't believe me? Then you can count the days till they crash

3:24:03 Now if everyone buys, we'll all be free But the government law says I won't let it be That's why there will never be money No no way there will never be money Honey you don't believe me? You can count the days of the trash I got a big horn blue The US Pacific Command has detected a missile threat to Hawaii A missile may impact on land or sea within minutes This is not a drill If you are indoors, stay indoors. If you are outdoors seek immediate shelter in a building remain indoors well away from windows if you are driving pull safely to the side of the road and seek shelter in a building or lay on the floor we will announce when the threat has ended this is not a drill take immediate action measures

3:24:56 The US Pacific Command has detected a missile threat to Hawaii. A missile may impact on land or sea within minutes. Using vulgar language, President Trump today questioned why the United States would allow people from Haiti and Africa into the country. Describing those places using an expletive... The president said why are we having all these people from shithole-shithole-shithole-shithole quote excuse me shit hole-shit hole countries I wouldn't say that. I don't think he should say that, I'll say that.

3:25:53 freak show. There's shithole communities in America! I'm a proud shithole, people from shithole countries Donald Trump has turned the Oval Office into our shitholes Of course it may not be appropriate for some of our younger viewers It's the latest thing and it's never coming back When a problem comes along you must dig in when John admits he is wrong

3:26:40 When the drum sings a song, you must bing it! Now bing it in a shape Look it up Get it straight Screw Google Move ahead Try to etch it It's not too late To Bing It Bing it good! When fake news comes around You let our podcast down Unless we bing it Everyone is a slave Until they've been I say bing it! Bing it good. I say bing it! Bing it- Well, I was born in a shithole And I live in a shithole Probably die in this shithole One of those... Shithole countries All my friends are so shitholes

3:27:55 My parents live in the same shithole. My job is so shithole, they call it slavery Educated in this shithole Taught to fear Trump in this shithole Screwed by Clinton in this shithole All that scam you see But I've seen it all, this shithole Stole plenty of drugs in this shithole Tried not to get killed In this shithole

3:28:42 country hole country

3:29:31 Shit hole countries. I will be your greatest champion. My Führer, Steiner... Steiner could not force a trade with enough strength. The trade with Steiners was unsuccessful

3:30:08 I am a proud shitholder.