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00:00 And kids of course are going nuts for him. I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where we're asking the question, what's up with Al Franken? I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning! See ya...I get you to read something

00:37 Before we start the show so I know you're not gonna like over modulate. That's right immediately over modulate You want a little hard yeah? When in there bit hearts, okay Yeah, it's all right man. Yeah exactly Sorry no, that's okay. We can talk softer well. I got to admit something right off the bat here John mm-hmm You recall we got a note from one of our producers that he sent me this lavender blossoms care package of his lavender creams that contain CBD. Okay, which is kind of cool right? Yeah Oh I get it you smoked it no why did not smoke it and no it's CBD And it's you know it's all kinds of salves solves solves Which this stuff my wife needs has been shipped to her oh

01:29 Well, I can certainly shipper one but here's the thing so i'm reading this and putting the salve on. I got a little pain in my lower back you know put something there and uh yeah anyway he wrote me a really nice note He said that this...I have people who use it And they say really helps for Tourette's So I'm smeared on my neck You know everywhere that I have some kind of tick Yeah Then I read On the bottle It says Effects may not be felt until 30 minutes, may last six hours." I'm like what do you mean? And I see ah it's 250 milligrams of CBD and 200 milligrams of THC. So he got wasted! I did it this morning before the show what did I know?! Yeah well that's not gonna have that much of an effect being ingested through the skin... yeah but I don't know

02:24 I feel a little groovy for sure. You do? Yeah, yeah that's alright Well it's okay are you hearing anything weird or getting any oral effects maybe? Stop it! Stop it don't do tha- Don't do it Hello Adam The third eye is calling me home Anyway show two of the transition my transition You're having a sex change? When did this happen?" Are you still talking through that tube, because you sound horrible. Oh well I'm not talking through the tube... So what transition are you going through? This is the Windows transition yes transitioning to Windows yeah and well have an analogy it's kind of like you put into a everything is different your professional driver you know how to drive the race car F1 car

03:22 And then you're put in a different car, only this one has no traction control. That's the difference between Mac and Windows I don't know if that makes any sense? No it makes no sense to me what traction are you talking about Yeah, there is nothing to kind of stop you from going off the rails You can get stuck and get messed up all over the place in this thing Oh yeah, yeah Just look for a control panel It's like...it's not really intuitive I'm just for me. Yeah, I'm just saying coming from a different operating system yeah But what I did find is your review of my setup? I didn't know you did one yet You did a review of my term of my windows set up you don't remember that

04:09 No. I like the size of the thing that's one thing for sure and the engineering inside is unbelievable it's just fantastic but the performance of the machine except for the hard disk it has a special cache that allows it to run a lot faster or effectively faster even though it's a slow hard disk. The performance on this machine is really a couple years old, nothing particularly outstanding in fact this screen we've got here which shows benchmark running It shows the machine running effectively at 9.8 megahertz, obviously not using a waste state memory which is kind of old-fashioned The screen is blurry There's a lot of little idiosyncratic things it's a closed architecture even though the other guest says its open Its open in a certain way but IBM threatens to sue anyone for patent violation if they use it I'm you know disappointed actually

04:56 That was a review of the early IBM... The PS, was it the PS1? Was that it? PS2. There is one addition to the setup I just wanted to mention real briefly. You know, the main problem I had with on the last show was getting certain clips and jingles and that's because I moved away from this iPad jingle firing mechanism that then had to be connected to the same network as the computer to remote control fire off the jingles if that makes any sense? Yeah! And so instead...I got a just a what was it like 11 1⁄2 inch

05:37 touchscreen display which is only like a hundred bucks and you connect it right up to HDMI and you connect it to the USB port, then I can just hit the on-screen jingle cart machine. Do you have a touch screen? Yeah! Or is it little device on this side? No no its a little touch screen yeah just use as a second monitor drag that the cart thing over there then I can hit anything Of course I recoded everything, all different colors and positions so i still don't know where anything is but at least it works. Okay! Yeah? I'll take a picture people will enjoy it mm-hmm okay I know they're fascinated by this some people are yeah yeah both of them yeah alright well we were gonna talk about L Franken yes

06:28 Well, let's listen to do you have his whole thing because I didn't get the whole thing but i do have Yeah well. I don't have this whole thing. I have the uh, I have the main Uh, the man I got that so let's go here it is. I'll play this nevertheless today I am announcing That in the coming weeks, I will be resigning as a member of the united states senate But minnesotans deserve a senator who can focus with all her energy on addressing the challenges they face Every day's a woman. Yeah, and I think me know you was away He's a woman. I think Minnesota is a woman. I think that's the idea her challenges refers to Minnesota I had to listen to it two times myself Okay Yes just seems odd No, I think he's going out of his way to say something like that Oh no doubt about that Minnesota is not a male Minnesota is not a female

07:31 It's a state. Yeah, and our states predominantly... It looks like calling a rock, you know? A woman. My girlfriend here is quartz rock! Okay. No I think they'd like that if you just don't make it quartz make it diamond. Quartz. That was it? Yeah, well what else did you want to hear? You wanted to hear... Oh I don't want to hear anything. Let's just let's start off by playing Franken on CBS. Minnesota Democrat Al Franken took to the Senate floor today and Nancy Cordes tells us he made the announcement he could no longer avoid

08:09 I will be resigning as a member of the United States Senate. Senator Franken bowed to pressure today but did not bow to his accusers Some of the allegations against me are simply not true Others, I remember very differently If anything, Franken suggested he is the victim of a double standard I am leaving while a man who has bragged on tape about his history of sexual assault sits in the Oval Office. Like President Trump, Franken is accused of groping multiple women before he came to Washington I would have liked him take some responsibility but the end result was the same Senator Amy Klobuchar is Franken's Minnesota colleague Did you think it was important for him to step down?

08:59 I felt that given what was going on, that you had more and more allegations. That you had members that were calling for him to step down...that it was just going to become really difficult for him to do his job." The pair of Democratic resignations this week puts even more pressure on the GOP And it's Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore. The man who has repeatedly preyed on young girls... Many senate Republicans disavowed Moore again today. I wish you were not our nominee, but he wins and keeps giving for Democrats Then late this afternoon they learned that Arizona Republican Trent Franks intends to step down the eight-term congressman would not tell reporters why

09:43 I'll let the statement speak for itself. What does the statement say? Take a look at it. In that statement, Franks said he may have been insensitive when discussing the topic of gestational surrogacy with two of his female staffers. The House Ethics Committee announced that its members had voted to investigate whether Franks engaged in sexual harassment. Jeff? Now we know a little bit more about what he actually discussed those uncomfortable conversations that he had with the women in his office It was yeah, we actually it's on the next clip. Okay good good Good because I thought that was like I called in a media and like yeah He wanted them to be surrogates you know by sitting on his penis. I think was the idea Yeah, maybe but he offered one five million bucks it seems to me that if that was all they wanted hmm They were getting old they were gonna get a lot for their money This is kind of an interesting contrast to what you just heard this is the ABC report under resignations And there are on the screen they got

10:47 John Conyers, the black Democrat. They have Al Franken the white Democrat and then they have this other character and now I want you to listen to this is the ABC pretty much the same kind of report on pretty much the same day. Are you sure it's CBS or ABC? This is ABC on resignation. Gotcha gotcha! You got three of them...got it And I want you to listen to this. Tell me if you notice any sort of a slant, any sort of a slant to this report because I kind of noticed one. Okay. Next this evening the growing crisis on Capitol Hill over claims of sexual misconduct three members of Congress now resigning in just three days one of them a Republican congressman who was accused of asking two staff members to carry his baby ABC's Mary Bruce on the hill

11:45 As bizarre allegations of misconduct emerge, tonight Congressman Trent Franks is abruptly resigning. The Arizona Republican is accused of asking two members of his staff to carry his child One woman reportedly tells the Associated Press Franks offered her five million dollars to act as a surrogate The congressman doesn't admit that directly but says I deeply regret that the topic of surrogacy was discussed in the office and that it caused distress Frank's a staunch social conservative. It is a test of our basic humanity and who we are as a human family. Is now bowing to pressure from House Speaker Paul Ryan, who urged him to quit after learning of credible claims of misconduct He is now the third member of Congress to resign just this week over allegations of sexual misconduct or harassment This really is a watershed moment for our country

12:40 And Mary, tonight another Republican congressman now under scrutiny? David the Ethics Committee is also looking at Texas Congressman Blake Farenthold over allegations he sexually harassed a former aide. He denies the allegations but has also agreed to pay back taxpayers for the $84,000 settlement that staffer received. David? Mary Bruce? Hmm... So where are the Democrats in this report? No, we can't be doing that. That would make no sense! I gotta tell you man... It's ABC. ABC is the worst for this. I always used to blame CBS as the CIA broadcasting system but ABC is far worse when it comes to being slanted now there's also two switchbacks in here too these you know you just say something and then play a clip has got nothing to do with me not a whipsaw on how to switch my whip so it's your word

13:37 I know, I can never keep track ever since somebody mentioned that it's actually a non sequitur. And so i'm always like this is a non-sequitor. I have them isolated so you can hear them and see if you can...you know as you listen to him you'll notice it because he has been ISO'd but let's start with number one. Oops, sorry. I'm sorry this is my fault and by the way this puts Mary Bruce on the list of douchebag reporters who do this because so far only Jeff Begay's have never been able to catch doing this. Frank's a staunch social conservative... It is a test of our basic humanity and who we are as a human family ...is now bowing to pressure from

14:21 He's a staunch conservative and then they play some random clip. That was completely random, let me just play that again that was kind of cool the way he did it. Frank's a staunch social conservative... It is a test of our basic humanity and who we are as a human family. Is now bowing to pressure What was he talking about in that non-sexual clip? I have no idea. It's like, it's as though she's piecing this thing together in the edit room and she just grabs anything! Like, ah, this is a good clip yeah Yeah so that was dumb but the worst part is she does another one not quite as bad near the end of the review. So she has two of these things in the same report Over allegations of sexual misconduct or harassment This really is a watershed moment for our country

15:09 It could have been from anything. Yeah, that's fantastic So she stinks I know we always forget to play the jingle I think we need to do now it's time for your sexual harassment Update you feel like we keep missing the ball on that week yet me me in particular me in particular I got something here The CBS morning show, Shame Themselves due to Charlie Rose's sexuality and his DNA had on Republican Senator Thune to talk about what is going on.

15:49 And so we've got Gail talking to him. Now remember, this is about sexual harassment and inappropriate behavior and just listen to the whole clip. Can I just turn to the resignation of Al Franken yesterday? He said it's not... The irony is not lost on him that the man who was bragged on tape about his history of sexual assault now sits in Oval Office What do you say to that now that it looks like Roy Moore might be coming to Senate Well, I think there are men across all kinds of different industries that are learning that there are consequences to bad behavior and i think that's a good thing. You know what happened yesterday is unfortunate in the Senate but on Capitol Hill the discussion we're having right now was long overdue Yes And what it points out is action is needed We can't continue to accept the status quo there or anywhere else for that matter You had called for Roy Moore to step aside That clearly isn't the case

16:38 What will you all do if he's elected? Well, I think the one thing i've said all along is that if he comes to Washington He'll immediately be under an ethics cloud. Probably an ethics investigation The result of which could be recommending expulsion or censure There are different things that the Ethics Committee can conclude But it's a huge distraction. I mean, the simplest wisest thing for him to do in the best interest of the country and our party is to step aside and allow another Republican to get into that race because i think we would win the seat And yet the RNCs are supporting him? That's unfortunate. I don't condone that. I think they made the right move in the first place All right Senator, very good Very good to have you at the table Good to be with you all Thank You Merry Christmas early Nice to see you in person Look as good in person as you do on TV

17:25 So she goes and you look and she does it with the whole like when you look as good in person that you do on TV She's sexually harassing him. Yes, he's actually harassing the man listen to this. Yeah, let me see if we play that again. Let me say here we go. Let's just turn to the resignation of Al Franken another Republican to get into that race because I think we would win the seat and yet the RNC is supporting him yeah well and that's unfortunate, I don't condone that i think they made the right move in the first place all right Senator very good thank you Merry Christmas early in person as good a person as you do on TV

18:10 Pretty bad, huh? That is really bad. Especially considering the topic you get clip of the day for that. Thank you so much! Unexpected... I mean are you gonna talk about sexual harassment then do one and pull one of those stunts?! Yeah it's pretty... Oh you look pretty good! You look pretty good yeah yeah What are you doing later? Like she's into men please Gail don't insult me we know So here's the wrap on Roy Moore. Somebody sent me a nasty note saying, you guys have been doing is calling Roy Moore of pervert on this show. Have we? No! I don't think we've been calling him a pervert. Fixing your shows up. By the way did you get the bonus clip yes i did okay

18:59 Okay, good because we're gonna go from this clip to that clip. This is Roy Moore rap on CBS Alabama special election that Errol mentioned is Tuesday It's a heated battle for the Senate seat vacated by Attorney General Jeff Sessions And it could change the balance of the US Senate where Republicans hold a slim majority Manoel Borges is in Mobile Are you familiar with the Senate race? That's coming up All right yeah Thank You sir can we count your support? Barbara Brewster and her husband Henry spent part of their Saturday canvassing this Mobile, Alabama neighborhood for Doug Jones.

18:10 Pretty bad, huh? That is really bad. Especially considering the topic you get clip of the day for that. Thank you so much! Unexpected... I mean are you gonna talk about sexual harassment then do one and pull one of those stunts?! Yeah it's pretty... Oh you look pretty good! You look pretty good yeah yeah What are you doing later? Like she's into men please Gail don't insult me we know So here's the wrap on Roy Moore. Somebody sent me a nasty note saying, you guys have been doing is calling Roy Moore of pervert on this show. Have we? No! I don't think we've been calling him a pervert. Fixing your shows up. By the way did you get the bonus clip yes i did okay

18:59 Okay, good because we're gonna go from this clip to that clip. This is Roy Moore rap on CBS Alabama special election that Errol mentioned is Tuesday It's a heated battle for the Senate seat vacated by Attorney General Jeff Sessions And it could change the balance of the US Senate where Republicans hold a slim majority Manoel Borges is in Mobile Are you familiar with the Senate race? That's coming up All right yeah Thank You sir can we count your support? Barbara Brewster and her husband Henry spent part of their Saturday canvassing this Mobile, Alabama neighborhood for Doug Jones.

19:36 They believe turnout, especially among African-American voters could be the key to giving the Democrat a chance of winning Tuesday. I mean unfortunately we got the new Alabama versus the old Alabama going on here and it's time for our kids want to see the new Alabama so you're reaching out to young voters? Young for sure! Jones supporters have seized upon allegations from several women that the Republican Roy Moore pursued them as teenagers one when she was 14 while he was in his thirties more has denied any wrongdoing. While endorsing him in Florida yesterday, President Trump sought to discredit one accuser Beverly Nelson who says Roy Moore signed her yearbook I like the way he does that and president trump stopped to uh you know discrediting an accuser since on my way to the venue I stopped to discredit somebody Florida yesterday president trump sought to discredit

20:24 one accuser. It was like 113 we're stopping to discredit the accuser then we're on to the venue press okay. Beverly Nelson who says Roy Moore signed her yearbook but admitted yesterday she added notes to the message you know the yearbook did you see that There was a little mistake made the president bucked the trend of prominent Republicans calling for more to step aside in light of the allegations Telling supporters, the GOP can't afford to lose the Senate seat But Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell repeated this week that he believes Moore will face an ethics investigation if he wins Dean Young is with the more campaign. We're gonna elect judge Moore

21:06 And if Mitch McConnell wants to pretend like he's a dictator and overturn an election of the people of Alabama, he is making a huge mistake. A fight coming? Yeah, a big fight coming Big names are pouring into Alabama in the final days before the election Former White House Chief Strategist Steve Bannon for Roy Moore on Monday Senator Cory Booker for Doug Jones today Yes They, you know they're panicky about... Nobody knows what's going to happen here or what anyone is going to do about it. If Roy Moore gets in there's somebody came up on one of the other analysis on one of the other shows and mentioned that the ethics committee has never done anything about anyone who did

21:50 any sort of wrongdoing before they were elected. The only time they get busted is when they're in the Senate or the House, depending on which committee. If they're doing something while they're in office, yes all kinds of things happen but if it's something that happened 40 years ago no nothings gonna happen. It never has and never will and...but nobody knows that this guy can win he might be able to pull it off I think Alabama's, at least the Republicans in Alabama are irked about the whole thing. They're gonna vote for him. Before you go into your bonus, I have a quick little clip from Cokie Roberts and she has a different take on things One of the things to keep in mind is that in the base even women are suspicious about these sexual harassment claims and part of the reason for

22:40 that is that women who are not in fancy white collar jobs often have really awful things happen to them on the job. They are assaulted, they are raped, they have horrible things happened to them and so when they hear women say he talked dirty to me or you came on to me they think big deal That's not what happened to me. What happened to me is so much worse and so there's not that same sense of affinity but But it's a teenager I have 14 year old grandchildren So what goes through their heads in that? That doesn't seem to work as an analysis for this particular case Well maybe they just decide... I think they decide the kids are telling a lie Ooh, is she Republican? Koki? Yeah No Huh

23:30 It could have fooled me. I don't know that she is she's always been on the PBS She's right circle and it she's always been kind of a liberal, right? Wow, she said Hey poor women they're used to this nothing new. I think she makes a good point I know that they're used to and I think she may be exaggerating but I think the point is well made because people are saying oh The guy comes up any any propositioned me, right? Oh Surprise. It's horrible he did what that sexual harassment? Do you work for him no I don't work for him He just propositioned me a it the trade show right something right and you know And it's like, but I think You have to be an idiot I mean what are you supposed to do with the men and women they're always propositioning each other and women do it too

24:17 Every so often they don't do it as much as we'd like. As they should! But, they do it... Yeah that's true And its not sexual harassment, it's propositioning you know? If I go up to somebody and say would you like to have sex It's called your lucky day Well, I don't want to be that insensitive but Let's listen to the bonus clip. This is a clip that was for producer Vice magazine just came out It says it's trying to again put the Alabamans in a bad light I think they do have they did make a couple of mistakes and I'll tell you what They are after we play this clip, Alabama go 40 years ago in Alabama. It was a different world forty years ago in Alabama

24:57 people could get married at 13 and 14 years old. My grandmother, at 13 was married, at 15 had two children and a husband and a job you know if Roy Moore was guilty if he was at the mall hitting on this fourteen-year-old 40 years ago in Alabama There's a lot of mommas and daddies that'd be thrilled that their 14 year old was getting hit on by a district attorney. I mean, that is true though. Boom count two! I'd say... That was good one. I'm going to give you a clip of the day for that. Clip of the Day! That's right because we always take it into context but then it comes to this douche knuckle and then ohhh we can't talk about what it was like back then

25:47 Well, a couple things. 40 years ago I don't think so 50 years ago maybe 60 years ago for sure 70 years ago absolutely yeah i think these push the timeline a little bit too much hard and the other thing is vice didn't do right they didn't follow the rules of broadcasting which is instead of having this guy who's pretty well spoken you want to got a guy talks a little bit slower and he talks like business got one tooth And that's what you want. They didn't get that, they got a... Articulate guy. He has slight accent but he is articulate and he does make the point even though I think it's exaggerated But this is like again I say that this is going to be interesting because if Roy Moore gets in

26:36 You know, it will give the Democrats what they hope that you know that they can just ride this guy and ride the Republicans and keep an eye on Trump until 2018. And maybe get some people elected but then again The other thing is If they see this guy getting elected, because Trump actually came out and supported him. And the guy does get elected? They're going to be a little scared of what's going on and they may have to rethink their strategy. I think their strategy stinks." Well while you mention that... It's just anti-Trump, anti-Trump there is no positive message here. Well that kind of folds into my next clip which is Monica Crowley. I think she was on The John Batchelor Show and something

27:17 We you identified probably two months ago because we're just much faster than the m5m is Exactly what she corroborates here? Why the left has been so willing if not outright eager to Sacrifice so many big big names politicians fundraisers, Hollywood heavyweights. All of these people have been deeply aligned and deeply helpful to their cause over decades. Why are they so willing to throw them overboard? And people are now starting to put it together that

27:56 essentially the left would like to rewrite the role and that they're burning everything to the ground so that they can start fresh with a new set of faces at a news that uh... folks and it is better for all now we are just in the early stages of this but when you sort of keep it altogether it's sort of makes sense and when you think about new faces and do new people who individuals in a lot of these positions The pressure is going to be brought to bear to have women replace these people. I mean, you think about Matt Lauer the now former co-host of the Today Show and the whole conversation has been well what woman is going to replace him? It's gotta be a woman!

28:38 You can't replace him with another white guy. But I think, look, the takedown of Harvey Weinstein was the first attempt to remove Hillary from the national conversation and to some extent Bill too because Bill was accused over many decades by multiple people of sexual assault, sexual misconduct and in fact rape in at least one case by Juanita Broderick So he is extraordinarily compromised in this cultural moment, and Mrs. Clinton as well because she enabled him. She enabled the accused rapist for all of these years so they were going to be marginalized anyway I think the take down of Weinstein was a first attempt at doing that and like Mrs. Clinton keeps coming back like Glenn Close's character in Fatal Attraction you think she's dead in the tub? And she comes back

29:31 So I think that this now new wave of removing progressives, leftists like Al Franken who we just discussed. I think that is the final stake being driven through the heart of both Clintons. Don't you dare try to get back up out of that bathtub because we are not having it." Two things come to mind. First of all, Frank and it looks like he's going to be replaced by a woman. who's going to be assigned and Amy Klobuchar, who is his stablemate you know turns on him which is why I think he should have not quit and become an independent but he didn't have the guts to do anything like that. And the other thing is he was also being seen when he came out with his latest book Lion of The Senate which is kind of a put-on excuse me

30:25 Yeah, you know this book when it came out. He was being seen as a potential candidate for 2020 right which flight Which is not no that's not gonna happen We don't we already know who they want to run if you start looking into it You're gonna see its Kamala Harris yeah the black woman is it Kamala or? district attorney in San Francisco She's got a lot of She's not going to beat anybody because she's got a lot of skeletons in her closet for doing a poor job here in San Francisco. Then she snuck into the state office of, I don't know what she was an attorney general? Maybe something like that. But anyway- Yeah, she's Attorney General for California. Yeah okay then she goes into the Senate and they're all looking at he as well...she's a woman of color and she's a woman

31:14 Yeah, she's a woman. We need a woman we didn't get Hillary and we gotta get her woman in we're gonna Get rid of all these old these other guys screwed up We got a new woman in there and let's make her black because we were very successful with the black candidate the last time that's right perfect That's it that that's their real best basing king. That's the real thing Yeah, that's what they're thinking because they look at their track records and say who is the best that we've done with recently? Obama. We need a black person while we can't have another black guy let's bring in a black woman and they got this she's no good. And you see her at the Senate she's not that bright really so yes

31:52 But she's a good campaigner and people like her. But she's not going to be, anyone can beat her I think and I think Trump can easily beat her. She'll be flustered. She's just not that good. She's not...too soon, for one thing. But I think that the line in the Senate where they started saying, oh, Franken can be a candidate? That was that. That was the end of him right there because I think she's absolutely right Monica. They're cleaning house. It's like the end of The Godfather movie. Yes. She had the wrong analogy. She had basic instinct. Yeah no it should have been Godfather just wipe everybody out. Better analogy so yeah

32:35 Meanwhile, the hashtag MeToo is really growing worldwide. What we call catcalling or wolf whistling in the United States of Gitmo Nation GMT could soon become a hate crime! And they're doing a...they did a pilot scheme, a trial in the east. How's it hate by the way? Well let me read this to you. The trial led by North Nottinghamshire Police saw sexist incidents like street harassment verbal abuse and taking photos without consent recorded as hate crimes. How is taking a photo of hate crime now? Well just however you want to define it

33:15 Police chiefs are now considering rolling out the idea elsewhere in the UK, suggesting a harsher stance on everyday sexism could stop it escalating into sexual harassment or assault. Police believe halting misogynistic remarks could go towards lowering serious sexual violent crimes overall." Hmm... okay. Where's the hate though? I don't get this. Where is the hate? The hate! Yeah that's how we just want to define it you know I don't see it, but that's apparently now hate speech. So the Brits see it that way or are they just knuckling under to any old thing that happens? Probably the latter probably all right well Anyway, let's say we're gonna finish this segment See if they have anything else They do have one thing I do have a very interesting today show report on them on the mechanism that Weinstein used to create his network of complicity

34:17 Also this morning the New York Times has new details about the sexual harassment accusations facing Harvey Weinstein and how he may have kept them hidden for decades. Chanel Jones is here with more on all that good morning. All of this comes amid the Me Too movement, and as we just mentioned Time recognizing the silence breakers as the person of the year. The New York Times looking at Weinstein's powerful relationships and how he reportedly used them as cover, providing possible answers to questions about how Weinstein's alleged behavior could be kept out of the spotlight for so long This morning, new details on how Harvey Weinstein apparently covered up years of reported sexual harassment. In a wide-ranging report the New York Times describes a complicity machine inside and outside his company and says he used his friendships with major power players from the world of politics business and media to his advantage The Times writing according to nearly 200 interviews

35:13 Some aided his actions without realizing what he was doing. Many knew something or detected hints, though few understood the scale of his sexual misconduct. Almost everyone had incentives to look the other way for reasons to stay silent. Weinstein faces more than 80 allegations of harassment, some criminal in nature which he has denied Those mentioned in the article include Hillary Clinton, The Times reporting Weinstein had long raised campaign cash for her and her feminist credentials helped burnish his image. And Amazon founder Jeff Bezos who The Times says sought Weinstein's advice on how to combat bad press. Weinstein reportedly recommending a lawyer who quote makes sure everyone sticks to the Wait a minute wait a minute Bezos asked Weinstein for advice about bad press? Apparently

36:01 Yeah, that's the first guy I'd call. And Amazon founder Jeff Bezos who The Times says sought Weinstein's advice on how to combat bad press. Weinstein reportedly recommending a lawyer who quote makes sure everyone sticks to the right narrative for how Weinstein dealt with his own bad press it was with a mix of threats and enticement drawing reporters close with the lure of access to stars, directors and celebrity-packed parties. Adding he was so close to David J Pecker the chief executive of American Media Inc which owns The Enquirer that he was known in the tabloid industry as an untouchable FOP or friend of Pecker within his company The Times reports the human resource department was seen by many as protecting Weinstein saying when one

36:44 female employee complained that she was frightened to travel with Weinstein. The response was basically, let us know if he hits you or crosses a line physically the times adding one of the former movie moguls signature lines was I'm Harvey Weinstein You know what? I can do. Weinstein denies all allegations of non consensual sex The Times also reporting that actress Lena Dunham warned Hillary Clinton's aides about Weinstein's behavior and his treatment of women. For her part, Clinton released a statement in October saying she was shocked and appalled by the revelations adding Weinstein's behavior alleged behavior here could not be tolerated Friend of Pecker gotta love it Well you know there is your operation that could have blown the lid off this thing years ago easily

37:28 easily, but failed to do so. So that's a flaw." Well there was an article in the Columbia Journalism Review titled what we found when we asked newsrooms about sexual harassment. Uh-oh! It's bad it's really bad. What's bad? The amount of sexual harassment in newsrooms and you know they're too...the women have whisper networks Kind of like the spreadsheet that whenever surfaced, but I believe it. I believe it Hey that guy's I believe that guy's a douchebag you got to stay away from him Yeah Well they have to do that in the news but in the newsrooms John yeah That makes it hard to cover the topic

38:17 It's like when the newsroom is all Democrats, and let's just face reality about that. And I have talked to newspaper organizations in speeches and I've asked for a show of hands how many people are Democrats? And they don't mind lifting their hand up. And then you say how many people are Republicans? And maybe two guys will lift your hands about out of 100. Yeah, you never see them at the next meeting No, well those are the guys that get in good positions because other guys will come up to me and say I would have lifted my hand up but you can tell why didn't So there's a lot of that. Most people just don't lift their hands, and then if somebody asks them they say... But it's extremely dominated and many of the newspapers are unionized so they're members of a guild. And so that also puts them in a certain frame of mind. And so they're biased or incredibly biased. And the fact that they have sexual harassment going on too is just like makes the whole thing just an eye roller

39:15 It's like, you know it's pretty useless. I'm still waiting for some more signals from academia although i did catch from CBC there was a professor, a candanavian professor put out a call for stories of harassment on campus and received hundreds of responses Now, I don't know. Yeah it's gonna be this thing is going to pop so hard. It's gonna be targeted if the guys are Republican or a conservative professor and there's a few not a lot but there's a few they'll be targeted yeah this is all looks like it's all been targeted especially at this point now it's getting very targeted and to find somebody like Franken

39:58 who, for all practical purposes is an innocent bystander that's been targeted and falls for it instead of being his own man. Which means he shouldn't be reelected because he obviously can think for himself cause if he did, he would have done what I said which is to quit the Democrat party... And run as independent? Run as an independent and say, I'm not quitting the Senate. I wasn't hired by the Senate to take this job. I was hired by the voters of Minnesota. If they don't want me they'll vote me out. But no, he didn't do that. He knuckled under to Amy Klobuchar who was a jerk and Schumer...he went up to Schumer and said you gotta go! And uh..you know....He wasn't thinking for himself. The Lion of the Senate there ya'go get that autographed. Get an autographed copy. Well but you know what? He ain't gone yet we'll see

40:49 Well, he could still back off but then he looked like a complete wishy-washy jerk. So I don't know... Yeah nothing surprises me anymore All right i think we can close that segment That concludes our latest sexual harassment update as a reminder flirting of any kind is no longer tolerated Good luck with that. We have two women creating little bits and bobs for us, little jingles. Love that finally! All right... Well you know I'm just gonna say as a final thought and i'm going to continue to promote this, I think that in an office environment all makeup on women or men should be forbidden.

41:37 No makeup. Not gonna get an edge, you know and then accuse people of one thing or another There should be no makeup And the dress code should be a little more firm about what you can and cannot wear and I would push trousers on women more than anything Yeah, I'm so happy we're podcasters So much easier. I mean I'm standing here my wife beat her. I don't know about you but We have to deal with any of that Well, I think because in two hours after today's show ends or maybe a little bit less because we got a late start with some technical stuff. For the first time Bitcoin will start trading on the Chicago Board of Exchange. I didn't know they trade options on Sundays?

42:27 Not that I know of. Yeah, well everyone's talking about it being today that it goes live Maybe there's some kind of pre-market or something? I'm not familiar with it Well they have futures markets. It could be just the futures. Even though its futures markets for futures ha! Yes So there's a lot going on this past week was once again just crazy listening to the M5M talking about Bitcoin. I actually deposited, just to see what was going on, I deposited just a couple dollars into my Coinbase account which is the one that everybody uses and they say oh this is great thank you it'll take seven business days for that money to clear into your account This is big red flag as far as I'm considered

43:08 You know, with the banking transfer system and I have a connection to my bank. That's overnight! Now it still takes three days to clear but not seven so they're holding that money and you know that's part of the scam is how it works your money is in limbo It's just somewhere somewhere somethings going on But I think the... Not really great explanation but certainly prognostication what could happen came from Kramer He's like a Morning Zoo financial guy on CNBC and he is explaining what can happen when you get these futures, options and the ability to short this quote-unquote currency.

43:57 And here we go. I think that the futures are going to, my sources in the Bitcoin community which is actually about 20 people in that community, I think they were bid on very little volume and I think the short selling is just going to annihilate people when you can start trading them Because it's just creation of supply. There has been no supply. But short term, what do you think happens to the price once futures go live? I think you get a little more liquid market and more liquid markets can't have these kinds of... typically can't have these kinds of gyrations and i think that if they walked it up these guys could hit back down. I mean, I think the propensity of people when futures start would not be to bid it off after this turmoil we've had

44:40 And what is basically what's called really an island reverse. It goes up intraday and then gets slammed, I think that the traders move it up and then once this thing starts trading in futures they are just going to kibosh it. Kibosh it! Thank you. K-A-I B-O-S-H, how do you go with Kaibosh? Google it! It wouldn't surprise me to see what cut in half... Go back to where it was. Yeah I mean the 5,000 was a few weeks ago look I think if this show You get sellers who can come there's no way you can borrow the stuff But you get sellers that come in and suddenly there's they create Bitcoin so to speak I also think that once the futures getting you gonna see a lot of shenanigans I think there'll be more shenanigans than futures then

45:26 Kaibosh and shenanigans watch out there you go kaibosh and shenanigans are expected. Yes, not none of it is good no here is The very first Bitcoin this self-proclaimed very first bitcoin investor Robert Ver do you know him Robert ver? Do we know the why would I know him? I don't know maybe he's like some Silicon Valley guy I never heard of them all right here I stayed home and read about Bitcoin all day. So sick from lack of sleep. I had to call my friends to help me I'm so sick then he came and picked me up and drove me To the hospital, and they gave me some sort of a sedative or something And I passed out asleep for maybe 12 or 16 hours But then woke up again, and it was all Bitcoin in here we are about

46:25 Seven years later and it's been all Bitcoin all day every day for seven years now because this is literally it's one of the most important inventions in the entire history of humankind right up there on par with The importance of the invention of the wheel or electricity, or the transistor. That's how big a deal the invention to Bitcoin is There you go The invention of electricity itself I tell ya which isn't believable which is the problem? This is what's so interesting We have a number of, I would say listeners and probably some producers who are in this camp. Oh totally! I would say the majority of them No not the majority Yes the majority The majority are hypnotized by the bitcoins yes

47:07 Absolutely. And here's the interesting thing, you know this the concept of mining your Bitcoin which requires a lot of processing power which translates directly to energy consumption which is why it's very hard to make a living mining bitcoin and with each bitcoin that's created gets a little harder cost a little more energy Which I think is why a lot of the you see a lot of Chinese miners being very successful They're sitting there off one of those hydroelectric dams are tapping right into it. So it's kind of free free energy, but the The projection isn't this is just math if the ramp were to continue like it does now which I don't expect But the ramp of the creation of bitcoins does that looks pretty on par by? I believe 2045

47:54 It'll you know the entire the Bitcoin network will per day use as much energy as the entire world uses today And that would be just the bitcoin. You know mining network and transaction network So it's something destined to fail, and it could be our grid no please This whole thing is going to collapse out of the blue. When the economy goes down, this thing's gonna be the first to fail because it's gonna... If you can't get rid of your coin for seven days? No no that's just translating my dollars into coin Well what do you think it's even longer when I just sell

48:33 Probably about the same. I haven't sold you can only do one a day because they have limits you have a limit Yeah, so you do? I've heard people who have a $7000 a day limit You know you have to identify yourself if they give me a paperwork or you know some kind of documents ID documents And I've heard people can go up to 7,000 a day But even then I mean that's not you're not really liquid That's not liquid at all now that's and if you do say say the thing is selling for fourteen thousand dollars a coin And you can sell a half of coin in a day, but if it's being sold at all it's going to be dropping faster than you can sell. Exactly. So it'd back down to 400 bucks and then you'll be selling... It looms out on the trade exactly. Then it could be back down to 100, could be back down to 50, could drop back down 25 cents. You're right in line with Deutsche Bank which is interesting this guys, you'll hear what he has to say because

49:27 Because Deutsche Bank is one of the leaders of this entire bullcrap futures market. Does Bitcoin have any systemic risk to anything other than bitcoin? Well, we added that to the list because it's of course something that is being talked about more and more. And the worry of course one can have is that its catching on quite substantially and with the speed at which prices are going up then you do wonder where prices will be even by the end of 2017 but we do think in 2018 this will continue to be a topic as there are number of questions that remain unanswered about regulation, about transparency. About do you have to reveal what you are holding? Can the regulators do something about it? It's mainly because it is something that I think financial markets so far has been discounting as a small issue but to answer your question Brian we do worry a bit that they could become more systemic in particular if the current trends continue going well into 2018. Could be bad!

48:33 Probably about the same. I haven't sold you can only do one a day because they have limits you have a limit Yeah, so you do? I've heard people who have a $7000 a day limit You know you have to identify yourself if they give me a paperwork or you know some kind of documents ID documents And I've heard people can go up to 7,000 a day But even then I mean that's not you're not really liquid That's not liquid at all now that's and if you do say say the thing is selling for fourteen thousand dollars a coin And you can sell a half of coin in a day, but if it's being sold at all it's going to be dropping faster than you can sell. Exactly. So it'd back down to 400 bucks and then you'll be selling... It looms out on the trade exactly. Then it could be back down to 100, could be back down to 50, could drop back down 25 cents. You're right in line with Deutsche Bank which is interesting this guys, you'll hear what he has to say because

49:27 Because Deutsche Bank is one of the leaders of this entire bullcrap futures market. Does Bitcoin have any systemic risk to anything other than bitcoin? Well, we added that to the list because it's of course something that is being talked about more and more. And the worry of course one can have is that its catching on quite substantially and with the speed at which prices are going up then you do wonder where prices will be even by the end of 2017 but we do think in 2018 this will continue to be a topic as there are number of questions that remain unanswered about regulation, about transparency. About do you have to reveal what you are holding? Can the regulators do something about it? It's mainly because it is something that I think financial markets so far has been discounting as a small issue but to answer your question Brian we do worry a bit that they could become more systemic in particular if the current trends continue going well into 2018. Could be bad!

50:29 Well, every time there's a collapse market collapse is always the triggering mechanism is always something different. And on that the Ethereum network which is you know also crypto coin but with this Ethereum you can put all kinds of things into the coin themselves you know contracts and applications and all kinds of groovy stuff that now that network is now jamming up because some Yahoo's decided to Come up with something for kids and this is right there with the beanie babies which you know is the predictor of a bubble pop crypto kitties KITTIES little toy virtual kittens

51:14 that are part of their crypto kitties. And kids, of course, are going nuts for them because it's there you know it's their entry into blockchain is their entry into the Bitcoin It's beautiful. All we need to do about blockchain To wrap it up this is CNBC with a flub which really tells it all Meanwhile Coinbase is now among the top iPhone apps in the US which clearly means bitcoin to some degree has gone mainstream Bitcoin. Bitcoin. Makes nothing but sense! We shall see, I'm very excited to see what happens when the exchange opens Yeah actually it'll be fun to watch we'll follow it will follow it for everybody and with that I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C or as he stands for can't get liquid Dvorak In a morning to you Mr Adam Curry also in the morning all ships at sea boots on the ground feet near subs in water and all the dames and knights out there

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54:47 Sir Sean of Slovakia, 23350. He'd be our associate executive producer one of two. My wife and I love you both! Merry Christmas to all NOAgenda listeners. Thank you for your courage sir Sean of Slovakia and he would like to hear the amygdala PSA. Oh hold on a second... Amygdala? The Amygdala PSA. It's probably under amygdala. Yeah, no I it's not yeah No Oh yes i think it is okay the amygdala PSA Yes Putin don't worry be happy tooter the head and some karma for a safe winter Yes, I think we can take care of that Let me see if this is the mingle You should check your privilege oh yeah you should check your amygdala something else I don't know what this is enlarged Amygdala some different frontal cortex base

55:47 I start thinking about Noodle Boy. Check your amygdala! I don't think that's what he was looking for... She made a determination with her doctor. Ah, jeez, that's the wrong one too. Alright well you play- Hey, play me another thing at the end of the show. No no, I got it, I got it. Let's talk about the other one. Don't worry Be happy Don't worry be happy You've got karma. Richardson, the farrier $225 and I put parts unknown from Richardson in the fire read as much of this or as little as you wish is many boy yet none else to do apparently it's made for you guys though getting tired of having different names. Okay here's the deal. I have several emails and this one is just my PayPal email please just refer

56:49 to me as Richardson the farrier. Okay, we got that straightened out I give you guys $225 every six weeks or so i'm a farmer farrier trip oh for your I guess is a guy who trims hooves and nails on he's like guy was a horseshoe guy yeah I gotcha 225 bucks is what I searched for a full set of shoes thats four We reset shoes every 6-8 weeks depending on how much the hooves grow So 225 is what we call an all... I don't know what he says. They call it an all around. Oh, it's called an all around? Yes, it sounds dirty and it is but its actual dirt

57:31 Bartender's choice on the jingles, please read a bit of nothing else Anyway says shout out to Chris Wilson and Felix. Hope this Opus notion hope his new shoes fit yeah So I guess they got horses. I don't know so I never realized that horses hoof is like a fingernail I guess it keeps changing growing yes Yeah, oh it totally grows And if you when you put because I used to do this when you put the hot Horseshoe on it It smells like a burning nail. Yeah, it is his fingernails. Alright dealer's choice! All aboard trains good planes bad You've got karma Yayyyy Alright well I guess that's it thats all we got What? We go no more than that and thats all we got so uh Oh thats disappointing Very disappointing im very disappointed in the audience

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59:08 We hit people in the mouth. Order! Shut up! Shut up, snake! And a reminder we have another show coming on Thursday you can help us at... Dvorak dot org slash N A Exactly Now I have a little kind of an offshoot clip that has kind of to do with the sexual harassment thing in a very odd way. Okay, but it's not quite this is a local KTVU report on the scandal It's a scandalous thing and I have a commentary to make after this both

59:50 bogus report on girls hired for parties. Oh, I heard some of this! And with the issue of sexual misconduct dominating the news right now a holiday party trend in Silicon Valley is getting some attention companies are hiring models to attend holiday parties to make small talk with guests according to one report it is happening in record numbers this year KTVU's Ann Rubin is our San Jose studio now with more on this and Yeah, the models are told it's their job to create a certain atmosphere but without letting on that they're there for work and not for fun. That attractive person you're chatting up at your tech company holiday party may be paid to be there A recent Bloomberg article drew attention to the hiring of so-called ambiance models These are good looking men and women paid $150 dollars an hour to mingle

1:00:41 maybe sometimes they'll be given an employee's name to say their friends with, other times they'll have to sign NDAs or wear a certain outfit to fit a theme. Sarah Fryer of Bloomberg spoke agency sending models to half-a-dozen parties this weekend alone in some cases 30 them per event the tech companies some big some small working everything from gaming to virtual reality So it's really interesting phenomenon especially in the middle of all of these harassment scandals and diversity issues that we have started to care so much about in the Valley. At Halverson Model Management, which focuses on Silicon Valley they've received a few requests for this type of job they've turned them all down

1:01:22 The fear that lines might get crossed if party guests don't realize the models are paid to be there. Are they getting hit on by people at the party? Is it is it there to solicit them or take them out on dates, we just do not know. And while models have long been hired for tech trade shows, the agencies say this is different since the job is to make small talk not pitch products and while the practice does not come as a shock to some in the industry others say it may alienate women I'm not personally surprised and they can choose to do that, and I can choose to go somewhere else. That's how I feel about it." Agencies say they are seeing a significant spike in business this year and that the models were often hand-picked based on their photos, then asked to sign those non disclosure agreements before they show up. Julie? Just such an interesting phenomenon happened given everything that's happening with this wave movement going across the country with sexual misconduct allegations it is a new thing they're really saying that this is a trend there seeing a lot more of

1:02:22 Yeah, and that doesn't mean it hasn't gone on in years past but the modeling agencies say they've seen a definite uptick in business this year. You know no way of knowing what that means or why its happening now but yes perhaps interesting timing given the current climate Julie Ann Rubin thanks Ann So you say thats bogus? It's so bogus! This has been going on for at least 40 years that I can document This is not even close to being new or a trend. Maybe there was an uptick this year because last year was the dog of the year, but that's beside the point and then one agency they talk too is not an agency that specializes in this. There are numerous...okay at least 10 years ago maybe longer I ran into one of the men and women who were partners that run a big agency out of Atlanta

1:03:15 And I discussed this whole process with them. And then, I've talked to some of the girls that took part in it. took part. And then to take it one step further, I know of one company in Silicon Valley that's a chip company and I think they've been since bought...I don't know if they're still independent that used to literally bring hookers into their parties. Ah the good old days! And everybody knew it and so you wanted to get an invite to that party because these were not normal hookers these were killer hookers. Wait a minute what constitutes a killer hooker? John C. DeMorak." They're just an unbelievable, beautiful woman but they're hookers and they ran through this party... We prefer the term sex workers, John? In this case they are hooker. The point is that this is not a new phenomenon to people. The Bloomberg people and all the rest of them are dumb millennials that don't even got a clue about what the hell's been going on for the last 30 or 40 years

1:04:18 But this is not a new thing. The guys who, the way it works with the women that this one agency brings to these parties is they I think it is 150 bucks an hour or something or flat fee and they make them do there was one gimmick this one party would or just one group would do they'd have They'd have the girls wearing like ten Hawaiian leis. Nice! Out of plastic, and it was required... And there were some they played a game where people had to talk the girls out of one of the leis and collect them, the men or the women didn't make any difference How old are these people? Not the hookers but the people in Silicon Valley these are 40-50 year olds

1:05:02 30, 40. Okay good just checking and I'm sure there's 50s too and they you know but it's mostly 30s and 40s and the ideas of the girls if they couldn't get at least three or four guys to put get delays off them they wouldn't get they wouldn't get the bonus or some bonus involved and that guy told me is its to get them so they so the girls when they go into the thing they actually have to mix Now, these aren't the hookers I'm talking about. These are the regular hostesses and they have to mix to make it so the party livens up because these girls with...they gotta get guys that take this lays off of them and so they have to go around and make sure that this happens so then get their bonus at the end. Now, the way I was told by one of the girls is that the rules were that you had to be there for three hours and you'd get 450 bucks plus the bonus. You could stay longer if you wanted to

1:05:57 And that, and now you're on your own time. Your own time. So now you can pick guys up And that's for the big bonus. Well, that could be not all the girls were into that but I was told a lot of them were and so they're kind of borderline hookers well so this is by the point is it this is not a new thing by any means in there and Julie's going oh my god! Oh My God!! Well she's...I think you're right to think she's feigning surprise but This is what is going to be happening now. All of these things have been going on for years and everyone just seems as kind of accepted, it's gonna come down then It's gonna be bad for the hookers! Well we'll see

1:06:42 I'm not convinced that this is nothing. All we're really saying is just the targeting, I think your earlier analysis by Monica Crowley and my thinking that this is going to blow over once Judge Moore gets in or out... Right but there's an inherent benefit to the news media, not political operatives but the news media, to bring down as much of Silicon Valley as possible So that's why I think we'll be seeing more of it. Well, I'd like to wish them all the luck in the world! Yeah... Their Gmail might start acting a little funky but yeah they're probably trying They're probably trying Now It did not go unnoticed by most certainly not in the No Agenda Face Bag group That our stick control is inadequate

1:07:32 I mean we're shaking our sticks, but we don't really have any... they're omnidirectional basically. I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that there were so freaked out down in LA. I don't think a lot of people are playing our show on in LA Oh that's possible Because it really depends on where shows being played Yeah because that's where the noise comes out right yeah good point And I said, you know we're doing some heavy shaking here and this is our rain sticks. Sherry Osborne has made those she lives in Utah and the next day it snowed in Austin. It's crazy! We had snow on the ground people had snow everywhere and were of course crediting that the rain sticks for that but... Well I got a clip so we can get there when talking about this let's play storm update which has a little bit stuff

1:08:23 In Atlanta, a man was electrocuted by a downed power line. Stop! Don't go near there it's live wire down and he didn't hear me Across the South power remains out for more than 380 thousand customers For some it might not be back for days Up to half of foot of snow is expected in New York City folks here in Central Park Don't seem to mind but Rena by the time this system crosses into Canada tomorrow It will have dumped snow along a more than 2,000 mile stretch starting all the way back down at the Texas Mexico border I missed the polar vortex mean where was that? Apparently it was no polar polar vortex involved and by the way. It was snowing in Mexico in that great Wow Yeah love that well just bringing up the topic of

1:09:17 Face bag? Ehh... Well, let me do this for ya. Oops! Ah, damn it I was going to be very slick and I wasn't so slick here we go Let's try this Dispatches from Dimension B courtesy of Adam's facebag feed Bless their hearts Uhh.. I have a face bag post from one of my friends-I consider him a friend He is a big time movie director has done big time movies Yeah, like Adam Sandler big-time movies. People who have listened to the show longer know who I'm talking about and yeah...I needed to read a little face bag post because he lives in Los Angeles He's dealing with the fires for sure. He does not listen to this show So it was not helping him here we go

1:10:10 My house is this close to burning down and we pulled out of the Paris Climate Accord because the press doesn't believe in global warming. The RNC and Prez is backing an accused child molester to become a state senator. The biggest mass shooting happened a month ago, and Congress just passed the law today to loosen up gun laws so you can carry a concealed weapon into a state regardless of that states' laws! Donald Trump is president under the guise he's making America great again How the F did I wake up in this alternate reality? Please tell me it's just a very weird dream! Hashtag Wake Me Up hashtag Resist

1:10:51 So his house is in danger of burning, but this is all he can think of. Yeah I find that to be out there yeah, yeah That's pretty wild then I would be I wouldn't be really concerned about Trump or anything else if my house Is about the burn to the ground no? No But this is it it's trying to find some way to get some of this stuff out of it And I have another little thread with a couple of comments. This is David Ippolito, he's that guitar guy in Central Park? He's the guy who's out there in Central Park every weekend and I like him a lot! He hates Trump... HATES TRUMP!!! And we played the bit of the President's dentures, Don's Dentures

1:11:37 United States of America. Exactly that one and he posted about that did you watch the Trump announcement? Legitimate question because I truly don't know what kind of drug makes you sniff like that slur speech like that and dry your mouth Like that, I'm really asking because whatever drug causes those side effects Donald J Trump is doing him and some other responses He's a long-time lover of diet pills to keep the weight off, or he could cease and desist with those 2600 Cal dinners from Mickey D's. That's one...

1:12:15 Just listen to the end of it. God bless you, United Fish! Right WTF? Saw that too I thought perhaps one of his dentures came loose You could see him fiddling with it in his mouth when he sat down to sign Maybe lol Yes That's what it sounded like Dear god please have DT's denture fly out of his mouth during an unexpected sneeze during a press conference Thank you I promise to go back to church if that happens There's a real problem in this country. And it is on facebag! Another angry rant, courtesy of Adam's Face Bag Feed. Bless their hearts. Bless their hearts indeed. Well since you mentioned the fire let's play the fire update from CBS and we get a little feeling for it

1:13:02 At least six major fires continue to burn in Southern California. They've torched more than 175,000 acres and destroyed more than a thousand structures high above the fires NASA is monitoring drift plumes of smoke gusts were calmer today but the Santa Ana winds are still a threat Carter Evans now on the devastation The massive plumes of smoke lingering over Ventura County are an eerie reminder this fire is still growing Nearly 4,000 firefighters have taken advantage of calmer winds to get ahead of the fire and snuff it out. Flames have already devoured an area the size of Chicago. More than 500 homes and buildings have been destroyed

1:12:15 Just listen to the end of it. God bless you, United Fish! Right WTF? Saw that too I thought perhaps one of his dentures came loose You could see him fiddling with it in his mouth when he sat down to sign Maybe lol Yes That's what it sounded like Dear god please have DT's denture fly out of his mouth during an unexpected sneeze during a press conference Thank you I promise to go back to church if that happens There's a real problem in this country. And it is on facebag! Another angry rant, courtesy of Adam's Face Bag Feed. Bless their hearts. Bless their hearts indeed. Well since you mentioned the fire let's play the fire update from CBS and we get a little feeling for it

1:13:02 At least six major fires continue to burn in Southern California. They've torched more than 175,000 acres and destroyed more than a thousand structures high above the fires NASA is monitoring drift plumes of smoke gusts were calmer today but the Santa Ana winds are still a threat Carter Evans now on the devastation The massive plumes of smoke lingering over Ventura County are an eerie reminder this fire is still growing Nearly 4,000 firefighters have taken advantage of calmer winds to get ahead of the fire and snuff it out. Flames have already devoured an area the size of Chicago. More than 500 homes and buildings have been destroyed

1:13:46 Families who lived here for decades returned to rubble and ash. You can't imagine, you can't imagine we lost not just a house but we lost our home Today Governor Jerry Brown toured the devastation We're facing a new reality in this state where fires threaten people's lives their property, their neighborhoods and of course billions and billions of dollars Military helicopters are helping to douse flames in San Diego County where the lilac fire has leveled more than 100 structures. Robert Howell and his girlfriend Linda were escorted back home by police only to find their entire block was wiped out

1:14:28 But there was only one thing they were looking for, the family safe. You seem elated I am elated! That was my whole life in that box there you got everything in there? Everything Is that your retirement? That's what I'll rebuild with Donations are pouring in for hundreds of racehorses and their trainers injured on Thursday when flames ignited at a training facility. A GoFundMe page has already raised hundreds of thousands of dollars for the thoroughbreds. Thousands of people still don't even know if their homes survived the fire, many of these areas are still under mandatory evacuation order and will be at least until the threat is gone. And Reena, the high winds that are fueling these flames are forecast through tomorrow.

1:15:13 United States. Thank you. Now I want to, I have a little tidbit for somebody for people out there who put all their stuff in a safe yeah A friend of mine who's writer and novelist Michael Rogers used to write for Newsweek used to was up in the Oakland Hills where they had that firestorm years ago and and I was by the way the first one to report it Report on it on the K&B star. Were you on the scene? No, I was driving back from the studio and I saw it burning and I called it in And then I know you know I said this doesn't look good that was the beginning of your phoning-it-in career Yes, and I've been phoning it in ever since now He had a safe where he just finished a novel

1:15:59 And he was in the house and he went back to get the safe, and it did not have been burnt to a crisp inside this fireproof safe. Oh no! He mentioned that fire proof safes are one thing, firestorm-proof safes are another thing because the temperatures in a firestorm go up so much They can melt steel? Well, they can... well you've seen those melted aluminum and all that. They can't melt steel but they can do a lot of damage Because the temperatures get so high, it ruins whatever...it could just heat this thing up and it cooks everything inside. So it's useless. And so you have to get a safe that is if you want a fireproof safe, just on the safe side, on the safe side, you wanna get a firestorm-proof safe which goes up to higher temperature. Just a little tip for you out there. Yes another tip from The No Agenda Show. We always provide a lot of valuable information. Very valuable tips yes.

1:17:00 And we have devastated by the way Because his novel was it was toasted. Why is that in this house burnt to the flat? There's that when you're in an area where this happens I'm sure this will be in LA too because of these all these houses that were burned just to the ground and as Oakland Hills You would see your people had to live in their cars for a while, and you would see them around town And they were just like shell-shocked yeah It's not a pleasant situation. Yeah, and nor is it right now very very unpleasant situation You know I saw um I was watching Grand Tour last night yeah that's the you know the the Amazon version of Top Gear right and Richard Hammond they were doing some race with supercars And you know it was like the past the present to the future and Richard Hammond was driving some thing was a Bulgarian electric supercar

1:15:59 And he was in the house and he went back to get the safe, and it did not have been burnt to a crisp inside this fireproof safe. Oh no! He mentioned that fire proof safes are one thing, firestorm-proof safes are another thing because the temperatures in a firestorm go up so much They can melt steel? Well, they can... well you've seen those melted aluminum and all that. They can't melt steel but they can do a lot of damage Because the temperatures get so high, it ruins whatever...it could just heat this thing up and it cooks everything inside. So it's useless. And so you have to get a safe that is if you want a fireproof safe, just on the safe side, on the safe side, you wanna get a firestorm-proof safe which goes up to higher temperature. Just a little tip for you out there. Yes another tip from The No Agenda Show. We always provide a lot of valuable information. Very valuable tips yes.

1:17:00 And we have devastated by the way Because his novel was it was toasted. Why is that in this house burnt to the flat? There's that when you're in an area where this happens I'm sure this will be in LA too because of these all these houses that were burned just to the ground and as Oakland Hills You would see your people had to live in their cars for a while, and you would see them around town And they were just like shell-shocked yeah It's not a pleasant situation. Yeah, and nor is it right now very very unpleasant situation You know I saw um I was watching Grand Tour last night yeah that's the you know the the Amazon version of Top Gear right and Richard Hammond they were doing some race with supercars And you know it was like the past the present to the future and Richard Hammond was driving some thing was a Bulgarian electric supercar

1:17:53 Which, which out I mean it out dragged the Lamborghini and The Acura. It was unbelievable of course only for one race And then the battery was empty but he crashed it and he crashed it pretty good You know so the supercar has just tons of batteries, and I forgot what they called it But until the car caught fire, and they got him out, and he was okay But they went on to say that thing actually burned for five extra days. Because the batteries would, you know... It's like 180 cells or something per battery and it's all just AA rechargeables from Amazon Essentials And so they expand explode and then more heat was created The next one would expand explode like a domino effect Then you get these fires out in California I wonder if they're gonna have to be putting out Tesla's for days

1:18:47 Yeah, probably. That's interesting. Yeah! Five days the thing was burning. He actually... I got a little bit of the open. Clarkson said something really odd which i think was meant in a strange way at hating Trump I still can't believe that Switzerland banned motor racing because of an accident in another country. Yeah, it's like Britain banning railways because a train crashed in India. Yeah exactly or its like America invading Iraq because some Saudi Arabians destroyed the World Trade Center. Did I say that out loud? That came out as sound. Well never mind we can edit this out! Look um we'll pick that film up later on but

1:19:38 Wouldn't that be blasting Bush? Well, that would be blasting Bush. But just it was kind of blasting America in general and I thought yeah It was really out of place like what did he want to do with that? No, it wasn't quite sure President Obama was very clear in blasting president Trump at some elite get-together in Chicago Was this a financial meeting was this like a bunch of bankers or some kind of? Trade organization that he was at you know I didn't follow it, so I don't know well He's very irked that Trump is taking credit for the economy as we did hear this But I don't know who is talking to yeah? I should look up who he was talking to as we took these actions. We saw the US economy grow Consistently we saw the longest streak of job creation in American history by far a streak that still continues by the way

1:20:31 Thanks Obama. You see, he didn't do it right! Ah! Thanks Obama That's the way you gotta do it. Yeah, he doesn't do that right. But then... He went back to the Trump rotation This is a no agenda patented system of evoking Hitler I wouldn't underestimate the very simple act of being engaged paying attention and speaking up Typically thats what comes down to in a democracy He's talking about

1:21:37 complacency and just saying all things are the way they are and just let him go and okay he's getting to ease winding up to hitler is baseball park uh... and we've seen and his idea that happens now presumably there was a ballroom here jim vienna in the late nineteen twenties or thirties that looked pretty sophisticated and c As if, you know with the music and the art literature and science that was emerging it would continue to perpetuate. And then 60 million people died and an entire world was plunged into chaos so gotta pay attention and vote!

1:22:41 No, he's saying Times were just like now with music and art and culture which by the way would be the Democratic sphere They knew who are they? Who's the music today all the art and then boom 60 million people dead. Mm-hmm Yeah, yeah, that's how it goes. Yep bingo no I'm sorry it's not bingo The word of the day is bingo dingo Okay, good one. Now since you brought this up it takes me right to two clips about the economy and let's play the prelude clip. This is the economy prelude clip on ABC talking about the rise in with the workforce And the new headline about the American economy tonight and certainly one The President will welcome U.S employers adding 228 thousand jobs in November that is more than expected The unemployment rate holding now at 4.1 percent That is a 17 year low

1:23:39 Yeah, sure. So they have this guy I think is Eric Morris is his name he's on the Wall Street Journal staff He's the economy reporter and he's on C-SPAN And he's taking questions about the economy and about the big, and he's also reiterating this 228 thousand people got jobs. You know even though what kind of jobs we don't know they don't talk about that. Now one of our listeners who would have plugged the show but somebody calls in with a question that I would have asked and this is the WSJ unemployment Eric Morris clip

1:24:16 Good morning. A couple different things, number one wondering what you're really gauging your jobless rates figures with and the comment about if you want work you can find it I think is rather optimistic. I think there are far more discouraged workers in this country who are falling short measuring the people that are unable to find anything even navigating an HR system particularly when you look at the depressed, the alcoholics in the opioid crisis Those people aren't even falling into your figures when you're determining your numerators and denominators. I think the numbers are far off, just interested in hearing his comments." Are you sure that isn't Janet Yellen calling in secretly? Sounds a little bit like it!

1:25:00 Sure, so we take our numbers from the Labor Department. The Bureau of Labor Statistics produces that data but how discouraged workers are measured? You're absolutely right that's an economic challenge a challenge for economists and statisticians to figure out If someone isn't responsive to their surveys, and that's becoming a larger and larger problem. People don't want to take a phone call or send a letter back to the government to respond to this survey. They're hard to measure. And if someone is unable to find work because they're dealing with alcoholism or drugs or depression That's hard to define. If they had a job, they wouldn't have these problems or if they wouldn't have these problems... It is difficult problem and you're right when we're talking about that you know we're talking about you know a little bit less than 1 third of Americans are outside the labor force and some of them choose to be there because their retired and staying home with children Some of them it's a little more gray area and I think that's what the caller was speaking on

1:25:58 Yeah, somewhat of a gap there between 4.1 and 33 percent magic number as usual yeah And I'll tell you from my own experience Now here are the things that I see I do see people benefiting from the so-called Trump trade me even Tina She's like holy shit my 401k went up said yep That is exactly how it works when Wall Street goes up if you have a 401 K and some people do Then you benefit from that But, when I hear retail is coming back... yeah no. The second street here in Austin is just you know there's shops going out of business left and right but then it's-I really don't see retail doing too well but what I see above all is you know because Austin is a test city and we have all this is the new Silicon Valley I'm not so sure I'm happy with that

1:26:52 We have all these services here, including the most recent one Yoshi which they'll come by and they'll fill up your car with gas on a subscription basis so you don't have to go to the gas station. There's an app for that They also do minor repairs and oil changes then we have Instacart which goes shopping at any of the areas from Costco to H-E-B whatever you want Then we have favor to bring restaurant food here to your place. So certainly Instacart, since I'm responsible for keeping the pantry stocked, I use that because hey why not? And I'm happy I do because the people who show up at my door are not what you'd expect in a college town. A bunch of college kids running favors and running groceries errands for some change. No these are middle-aged Americans these are 50 year olds they're my age some older

1:27:47 And they're the ones that are running these services as a full-time job. So I think we have a way to go, I think people are in very very dire trouble now you know creating a buzz and everything's better can work and it's helpful but uh i'm not seeing it i'm not seeing any real results on the ground. I'm not either! I think it's bull especially you know they yeah it's great to sound...and around here of course where there is economic boom which Maybe petering out. I mean, just how much longer can this continue with the mania of the real estate going up like a rocket? Right well that's happening here too our real estate is out of control and That will back off For sure when this thing turns around yeah It takes a lot for rent to go down no real estate is a little more secure than

1:28:46 As even when they had the crash of 2007-2008, which was a real estate crash. The downside was like 20% or 30% on the real estate... Right and enough to put someone in the poorhouse but not really a horrible devaluation of the property. And it recovered rather quickly. In fact is way up over that period now at least in Bay Area. But no this is nonsense as I say that we have 4.1 percent unemployment It's crazy. But especially Trump who was out there always saying these are bullcrap numbers and now we're not disputing it. Disappointing, yeah disappointing. He is really happy with the numbers because they're the same bullcrap numbers but they're in his favor but all you have to do I think the real key is the sizes and continued growth where there's a growth industry its the tent cities yes

1:29:37 from all over the Bay Area, and they're usually around freeway entrances for some reason. And there's a couple of them when I took this Zephyr up to the meetup in back in Sacramento, the tracks go on areas where there is no road nearby. And there's areas in California where there are huge tent cities, by huge I mean encampments of maybe 15 tents. Which to me is huge! And away off the beaten track...there is nowhere near a highway that a cop can drive into the thing you have to actually go there on a rail car

1:30:16 Just even find the place, but they're out there and there's their Isolated and there's ten cities all over the place in Berkeley. There's very everywhere we were yeah We went uber The other night raining and we're talking to the guy this guy's picked us up a couple times Guillermo And I said, yeah we're talking about downtowns where we live and you know that the homeless population is growing and growing. He says no haven't you noticed it? So actually now you mention it...I didn't see many yesterday. Says oh yeah they held a big raid and they arrested like 80 homeless people who were all being employed by this drug ring and they were dealing weed and coke on the street

1:30:57 Wow, yeah now at least they were employed. Yeah Austin Texas everybody yeah there you go if you want your weed you want your coke or Austin? Yeah just talk to the homeless guy on the corner In my continued quest to understand more about the Candanavian fruit machine, we got a great email. But before you go there I do have one homeless clip that I want to get out of the way. Oh sure, sure sure sure! And it's the homeless increase CBS and now I want to mention something with CBS they've got their new guy Galore and stuff. They are now...CBS is the first one to do this They have a thing called the evenings news break or something like that and then they it's very similar with short little stories Very similar to the index which ABC uses but CBS is adding a music bed

1:31:45 The number of homeless Americans has climbed to nearly 554,000. That is nearly 4,000 more than last year and the first increase since 2010. The soaring cost of living is mostly to blame. The crisis is worst in the West." Nice! Yeah I think it's corny A little bombastic...I mean they could have done a little scarier but you know it's not that bad I'm gonna be hearing it a lot if i'm going to get CBS clips. I'll tell you right now because they start playing the music underneath the news reads And it's just like and it's not as dramatic I mean that all these newscasts If you'd ever noticed The big the big networks do this The only ones who don't do it is democracy now, which plays idiotic folk songs and some of these other You know this the music selection is all corny Yeah but the big newscasts they always have us like a symphony orchestra with that Like it's like

1:32:38 Don't it's like a big deal that newscast and they started off with a real blast in our power power sound Yeah, power son. Then they then they bring in these little beds that are like rinky-dink I think they got to change their style and the they gotta do something else yeah It's not really modern no it's not modern at all anyway. That's it you were saying yes? I was saying that you know the fruit machine the e meters on all of that is fascinating both of us would like To see if we could find this as a collectible But it probably will be... Yeah, it'll probably be beyond our pay scale as podcasters. Podcast or pay scale? But I did wanna read this note that came in from one of our producers. Adam and John, I want to write and clarify something from the two recent shows about The Fruit Machine. I'm a Scientologist from Washington DC." Now isn't that where they don't really have the... Do they have a big church in D.C.? Not that I know of. They're big churches are all down Los Angeles and Clearwater. Oh no, that's right L.A., yeah. And Clearwater.

1:33:37 They own Clearwater. I've been listening to the show for some time, donating when i can and sent a song your way awhile back you played in the show. I've hit some of my fellow Scientologists at various points and find that some of the no agenda thinking is very much along the lines what we think in Scientology... That M5M mostly wants to scare people and psychiatric drugs are bad for you among others Needless to say, I was surprised to see a Scientology E-meter on the album art of a recent episode After I listened to episode 9 or 8, 7 Kebab Panic. I went and looked at the fruit machine turns out this is completely unrelated from Matheson and the Scientology E-meter Oh The first thing I saw was probably the same image you were talking about on the show The one with all the knobs and dials that says electro psychometer That is in fact an early Scientology meter designed by Volney Matheson for Mr Hubbard in England I believe in the middle 50's

1:34:33 Electropsychometer equals E-meter. And yes, it does look badass! What's odd though is when you look a little further apparently a Canadian military museum put the Scientology meter on display with a caption that basically says quote The fruit machine has long since been destroyed and while this is not the fruit machine which was much more complicated dot dot dot so we've been hoodwinked What several other sources online including a major Canadian newspaper used the same image of the meter and yet mentioned the same fact that this meter isn't The fruit machine can't they come up with an artist rendering someone somewhere decided to conflate these two things If you look at the Wikipedia entry for the fruit machine, he has a link some other sources online It looks like the machine built in Canada was designed by name named a man named Robert Frank Robert Wake

1:35:25 The Canadian fruit machine, quote, measured the diameter of the pupils of the eyes. That's a pulpillary response test. Perspiration and pulse for supposed erotic response. Well this is a lie detector! Yes, the device employed a chair which resembled that used by dentists. It had a pulley with a camera going towards the pupils and a black box located in front of it that displays pictures Definitely not anything related to Scientology or the e-meter and feel free to ask any questions if you want Which we will do I'm sure we have plenty of Scientology questions We'll come up with but so this is interesting

1:36:09 We've been hoodwinked. Yeah, I want to see what the real one looks like now they say they destroyed it There must be a picture somewhere. This is bullcrap you know they did I'm sure there was more than one and I'm sure they didn't destroy them all and You know because some I know do people think they squirrel stuff away? Yeah make sure that take that file in and just end burn it yeah You know, I'm not burning nothing. Yeah, you can't be the only archivist out there! Not everybody... well, I mean not everybody but a lot of people would save these things and think about it as valuable. I just thought that was pretty interesting. Yeah that wasn't very valuable good thank you

1:36:51 I wouldn't mind getting one of those old E-meters though. One of those would just be beautiful to have regardless, but the fruit machine... It's lame. They have a Scientologist, they one of their gambits is to find some very attractive woman to kind of semi hypnotize you and while you're on the E meter and they have these, uh, they set shop every so often on market street in San Francisco and there's like usually two or three tables and I got some very pleasant people that are asking me do you want to take that little test as really promoting Dianetics?

1:37:35 And you go and you can sit down there with some, if it's a gorgeous female. You know, lot of guys say yeah sure I'll get to stare at her and be asked questions. It's kind of erotic Yeah, but yeah But then but they have the e-meters and you go you can hang out there look around look at the email It's kind of lame looking nowadays. There's not didn't have all the knobs and dials is pretty straightforward it looks like a Galvanic skin thing its own it really looks like one of those early breakout boxes Like a stomp box for a guitar that has some kind of reverb in it Yeah You know he throw it on the ground Stomp on it and the reverb kicks in this kinda what it looks like so not sexy not sexy at all

1:38:15 Well, the new one I saw was actually sexy. Anyway... In the Netherlands reasonably big news whenever anything happens there and in Amsterdam a guy with a baseball bat and the Palestinian flag was smashing the windows of a kosher restaurant saying that Jerusalem will never be the capital of the Jews very very angry about this And this is obviously a part of the four days of rage. I'm sorry, three days of rage which was touted by the M5M everywhere. That is why Palestinian factions are calling for three days of rage. Palestinians calling for three days of rage! And Palestinians have announced 3 days of rage... Three days of rage and a huge popular uprising So, for sure

1:39:08 the president's unilateral action will get people killed. Instead what the president is doing is essentially throwing a grenade into the middle of this process that's likely to blow it up. He's playing with fire, its dangerous and irresponsible game and there will be consequences very serious consequences. Warned Americans to expect violence It seems to have no intended outcome or no likely outcome except that Dangerous in destabilizing it would lead to people being killed Deaths are coming now because of this. You can just bet the next few weeks we're gonna have hell to pay for this totally erratic decision by this president This is looks like a declaration of war on 1.6 million Muslim billion Muslims basically

1:39:53 By the way, that was Chris Matthews in there saying it's an erratic decision. He was promising this since the beginning of his campaign and he did it! How is this erratic? And since you brought it up... This is a video the president tweeted the other day with his proof that He's the only one that follows through on his campaign promises. Jerusalem is still the capital of Israel and must remain an undivided city accessible to all as soon as I take office, I will begin the process of moving the United States ambassador to the City Israel has chosen as its capital. I continue to say that

1:40:28 that Jerusalem will be the capital of Israel. And I have said that before and I will say it again. And Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided! We will move the American embassy to the eternal capital of the Jewish people, Jerusalem! Yeah, everyone talks a big game and then Chris Matthews comes up with it's erratic. Erratic yeah so I guess should the idea is just promise it and don't do it we are a bunch of douchebags man but can't believe that we promised that for what does that now 16 years 20 years? More than...yeah well Clinton that goes back to 90s you have twenty years

1:41:18 So let's play the CBS Jerusalem update. You mean Jerusalem Update CBS? Arab foreign ministers met in Egypt today to discuss their response to President Trump's decision to recognize Jerusalem as a capital of Israel The proposed U.S. embassy move announced Wednesday has set off a wave of anger in the Palestinian territories Seth Doan is in Jerusalem There's nothing diplomatic about these exchanges on the streets. It's rocks and firebombs versus tear gas and rubber bullets

1:41:56 Today, clashes continued following President Trump's announcement. Anger and grief were on display in a Gaza hospital and at three funerals there one for Hamas member killed in Israeli air strike that strike was launched in retaliation for rockets fired by the Islamic group On the West Bank, Bethlehem is usually known as the birthplace of Jesus. But this holiday season it's a battleground. Mr Trump today is putting gasoline on fire. Gasoline on fire? Yes we got a very thoughtful update from the dude named Mohammed about this controversy and I put that in the show notes at 9er89er.noagendanotes.com Good read!

1:43:49 Not good. Sucking in soot? Sucking in soot! Yes, sir You could die The military-industrial complex for just a brief moment Just two stories that caught my eye First up we have the new head of the Department of Homeland Security Kirstjen Nielsen Yeah, and we've seen her before We talked about it already She looks badass In the photos, maybe. Yeah she was always what the What's his name? The general that's Kelly wasn't Kelly. Yeah. Yes. She was a deputy I think and right and this is straight from the horse's mouth from NPR org starting in 2018 The Defense Department will have annual audits our audits will occur annually with reports issued November 15th

1:44:43 Oh, crap. Yeah I'll believe it when i see it they can't they've already tried to audit the defense department It can't be done now there's too many conflicting computer systems although it doesn't really make any difference in anyone's interest to do it by right you can Do it by department by department by Department? You don't have to do it all at once and one computer system So you don't need one computer system But if your you nailed it It's got...it said nobody's interests. No, no one's interest. Nobody. Not the economy either. It's nobody's interest that we know what's going on with our money? Uh-uh. So that's not gonna happen and it is never gonna happen at least in the short term. Well they're saying it will.

1:45:26 I have a laptop bomb update. Oh my goodness, i'll have to get the jingle! Thank you very much as Americans finalize holiday travel plans terrorists overseas are working to build sophisticated laptop bombs that can be smuggled onto planes Debra Pata traveled to Somalia where the Al-Shabaab militant group nearly blew up a jet last year In this CCTV footage you can see two men walking through the airport, one is carrying a laptop. Watch in the bottom right as he slips the rigged computer to the bomber in the coffee shop The man was the head of Mogadishu's airport security at that time. The laptop exploded shortly after takeoff and blew up hole on side of plane

1:46:10 Only the bomber was killed. But Islamic militants of Al-Shabaab continue to try and perfect the laptop bomb In fact, they tried to plant a bomb a day earlier but the flight was cancelled in the past 18 months three other computer bombs were found after one partially exploded in a cargo hold. New multi-layered security checks, including dogs trained to sniff out explosives are supposed to stop that but Al Shabaab still has people on the inside. Saeed Elia, deputy head of security. The biggest problem we have is no matter who it is airport manager or cleaner everybody has to follow the security

1:46:54 The militants operate freely in this crumbling city of Mogadishu. We have repeatedly been told that Al-Shabaab has eyes and ears everywhere, that they blend easily into local communities. A quiet street like this may not look menacing but it can turn nasty in an instant. There you go Al Shabaab. The guy that was partly responsible for this whole scheme was the head of security at the airport Yeah, makes nothing but sense yeah well we just shut down this Airport this airports no good So I don't think any carriers American carriers even go anywhere near that place No Well, I wonder if we're gonna get that big laptop ban

1:47:53 They're certainly pushing for it. Well, you know actually no I take that back yeah I know what's gonna happen you got to think put the No Agenda hat back on You know there's going to be some very sophisticated machinery that's going to be able to detect if the laptop contains a bomb and I predict a secondary conveyor belt for your laptop and other electronics Well, that would be a nice use of the money. Yeah definitely cost a lot but yeah the thing is is that they're already the current device which is the x-ray machine apparently this laptop bomb guy he always his system needs a nine volt battery and that should be easy enough to spot by yeah

1:48:37 But that's beyond the point. I mean you're trying to bring logic into it. Yeah, but I should be thinking about the money. Yes of course the money. What am i doing? That's just like in the UK when that's where the whole shoes off thing started they pretty quickly had these beautiful machines where you put your shoes on the machine yeah do they still have that I don't know. I didn't notice it." Oh, well this is back in the day... And you're going through Gatwick and it was like... No, Gatwick had a two- I remember this but maybe... Well you had to put your shoes in a bin. No no that's the new system, the bin that pops up and swirls around then its automated? Well... You didn't see that one either?

1:49:17 Yeah, there was some kind of a bin distribution thing. The bin would pop up but it was just like... It was lame and they're yelling and screaming. It's unbelievable. Yeah, they're not very friendly though where the TSA has been kind of you know we got our eye on them here in the security services there in the UK are mean yeah yeah They're a bunch of a-holes There's no doubt about that I have a couple clips that I wanna play. Let's do this one, this is another Democracy Now! clip that I think is misleading. This is the German pilots and the Afghans clip

1:50:02 And a new report finds German airline pilots are increasingly grounding flights in solidarity with Afghan refugees whose applications for asylum have been refused. Germany's government said Monday, pilots have refused to fly at least 222 flights carrying Afghans out of Germany—in some cases delaying their deportations long enough for them to successfully appeal their asylum claims. Huh! Lies! Is it lies? Well, here's what is misleading because she says in solidarity I can't find any evidence of that the German pilots

1:50:40 For one thing, they refuse to take anybody out of the country who says no when they're asked a question before they get on the plane. Do you want to go back to Afghanistan? They say no and they say okay we're not taking you then and they're not part of a ring that haul people illegally out of the country but more importantly they don't like flying to Afghanistan because they get there getting shot at So it's a safety thing. It has nothing to do with solidarity, oh yes these Afghans should stay here." Did Democracy Now! source that information themselves or did they just copy paste? I think they just dropped the word in, solidarity... Let me hear it again. And a new report finds German airline pilots are increasingly grounding flights and solidarity with Afghan refugees whose... Interesting Yeah, bull crap

1:51:30 I mean, you just go look at the articles yourself and say they're very concerned about the safety. Some people are worried about putting somebody out who doesn't want to go and make a fuss on the plane and cause truck safety problems. And they don't want to fly into Afghanistan where they feel they're going to get shot or that have been shot at. It's got nothing to do with solidarity with the Afghans. This is the kind of twisted news we get from some of these sources. On democracy now, no less which should be... Yeah, darn it! Who would figure that would ever be like that? Other problems with migrants although I don't know about problems but Germany has now put up 3,000 euro reward for any migrants who want to go back. Migrants who agree to go back even before their asylum request is rejected have already been offered 1200 euros per adult 600 euros per child

1:52:22 The Bild Am Sonntag reported that 8,639 migrants participated in the return program. Return to Sender. Turkey also has now entered into an agreement with Greece and they will be accepting returns from Greece and I think Greece is going to pay them... It's like Boxing Day! Hey got this package for you look what's in it And Karl Lagerfeld, man. He's lead lashed out at Angela Merkel that she's destroyed the country and that's why he doesn't want to live there although he retains his German citizenship. She's let all the enemy in and you really went off. Yeah I'm expecting him to get in some kind of trouble in the fashion industry they're pretty liberal there. Yes yes yes they are so...and maybe that's a good tie-in here

1:53:17 The European Press Organization, let me bring this up. They published a style guideline for reporting on migration and minorities. Let's see what can I open this in? Yes That'll help. Here we go, reporting on migration and minorities." I'll just read a little bit of... Who's style guide is this? This is the what's... AP? Ethical Journalism Against Hate Speech but they're... Nobody pays attention to anything unless it comes from the AP or one of these organizations. Well as I said this is a press organization. It's a press organization everyone's a member of it.

1:54:06 And this is called the Respect Words Project, and they have a hashtag. And it's quite a lengthy document but here's what they're asking journalists to do under the theme ethical journalism against hate speech The Respect Words project focuses on the need to rethink the way in which media outlets and journalists cover issues related to migration and ethnic and religious minorities Amid a troubling global context, the dehumanization of migration policy, a decline in sensitivity to human life and human rights, a rise in Islamophobic and xenophobic speech, the commercialisation of journalism. More than 150 European radio outlets and nearly 1300 journalists from the eight Respect Words partner countries – Austria, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Slovenia

1:54:51 have joined together to help strengthen media coverage of migrants and minorities, an indispensable tool in the fight against hate speech. So now they are enlisting journalists to fight hate speech which doesn't seem like their job And they focus on three groups, Muslim communities, Roma communities. These are the gypsies there's a lot of people who hate the Romas and Jewish communities which is how it's interesting that they're being put in here These, just some stuff that I highlighted. These guidelines aim to encourage news coverage that challenges stereotypes and that brings nuance and context to coverage of migrants and minorities but they are not a call to hide from or even censor difficult debates. Oh no! Migration in the situation of ethnic religious minorities in Europe are complex issues of significant public interest that necessarily involve a variety of forms of news coverage from various angles

1:55:49 Protecting press freedom means defending journalists' right to cover stories that may be uncomfortable or controversial. It also means pushing back against the concept of hate speech to suppress criticism of ideas and institutions, or speech that is merely offensive." You can feel where this is going! They're telling journalists what they should and should not write The Respect Words Project believes that although journalism cannot and should not solve the problem of hate speech on its own, meeting this challenge requires the involvement of many actors in particular the European Union which must reinforce existing mechanisms and support new tools designed to combat hate speech.

1:56:30 It can play an active role in preventing its normalization. While we vigorously defend freedom of expression, we also support the view that professional journalism involves treating the subjects of reporting with the humanity and respect that they deserve." So would you like some recommendations? No. Oh, come on! I mean you're asking me and I'm saying...I want to hear them but you're asking if do if I'd like them? No, I don't like it. Okay when it comes to producing quality write this down John should get your pen your pencil again again I'm not gonna do that but go on when it comes to producing quality professional coverage of migrants and members of minority ethnic and religious communities notice they add that in now

1:57:12 We recommend journalists to keep in mind the following ten overarching best practices best practices Best practices choose the language you use carefully consider the ideologies and connotations behind the words You use hashtag respect words. I don't even understand what that means Challenge it means do not write about where's where are they poop? Where is all these migrants pooping okay guys Okay, that is the do not write about poop rule Rule number two, challenge stereotypes and avoid sweeping generalizations. There's no one single migrant Muslim Jewish Roma community but instead diverse communities of individuals who have more to offer than just their migrant ethnic or religious background. Again? Yeah

1:58:00 Again, what does that mean? You're writing about the migrant crisis in an overall sense. And you're supposed to bring it down to the individual? That's not what the article is about that you're writing." And everyone talks about the LGBT community... How come they are one community and then the migrant Muslim Jewish Roma's are not?" Acknowledge to yourself and your audience that stories about migration and ethnic and religious minorities are complex. Don't try to fit your reporting into accepted master narratives. Provide an appropriate range of points-of-view, including those of migrants or members of minority communities themselves but do not include extremist perspectives just to quote show the other side! And be alert to political and social actors who spread hate to promote their interests

1:58:51 That doesn't sound right. This is pretty common stuff Go on one more, okay avoid directly reproducing hate speech when it is newsworthy to do so mediate it by Contextualizing and challenging such speech and exposing any false premise It relies on so how come this same sort of reporting? Let's see, reporting framework. How come this isn't used when they're discussing the situation in South Carolina where the woman got run over? Charlottesville. Oh no that's just Nazis! That's just one of the Nazi community

1:59:38 How come the same framework isn't used in domestic reporting, which is really kind of like hate Trump stuff or hate Judge Roy Moore? Which should not even...his background shouldn't be brought into the topic. What's he like on policy? Okay anyway one more read one more. Avoid oversimplification Wait, now how about this? Don't fall into the trap of focusing solely on possible negative aspects of large-scale migration.

2:00:14 It is also important to highlight positive contributions of migration and individual migrants. That's dumb! Yeah, well it's filled with this...this is a 300 page document. This is a pro-migrant document. Yes. Hey reporters you got to be pro migrant there's nothing wrong with that if the whole of Europe turns into a Muslim state from all the migration that's fine Who's bitching about this? You know, so yeah now that's no good. I mean it's as though you can't you know okay well and then uh i have a clip to work i have i have a clip from a Brexit voter who called into LBC the big London broadcast Nigel Farage station yeah are you quite done with the air? I'm kind of irked by this Yeah I can tell It's not doing what you want it to do

2:01:13 It's not doing anything. Okay, go on just to give you an idea The Brits are not racist and this caller says he's not a nice not a racist I live in Harrow Yeah when I go down to harrow And it is not being the right exchange because that that term is so easily used and very loosely use When I come down to Harrow and I've lived here for 30 years I walk into her shopper center and i swear to god but don't know where i am pop-up polish romanians bulgarian sitting outside coffee houses doing so the whole time every other nationality under the sun and it's lost its identity. When I go into Norfolk Park Hospital, and i went in there three Sundays ago because I had to go in emergency, I walked into the accident emergency as a said your researcher 120 people in there I was lucky if I saw three or four white faces. Now that is racist

2:02:09 No, that last bit is realistic. I know it isn't because you're forming an opinion of people or their value based on their color There are people who don't have white faces who are just as British as you and me Steve But I'm not racist no Well, he's right about the ethnic bias on the streets of London. There is no doubt about it. No kidding? You can really see it but that was O'Brien I think that was the LB... The London's whatever school. Oh could be yeah could be I don't know and he is like an unbelievable He's very sharp. I would never want to get into an argument with him because you just kick your ass But he's extreme. He's a communist Mm-hmm Okay well that explains it

2:02:54 And as far as he's concerned, open borders are fine and the Brexit is the worst thing that ever happened. He really hates the Brexit and I've seen him kick Nigel Farage his ass. Well... Yeah, he does it in a very coy way. He will start to grill you about stuff that you really don't know on top of your head and then he'll start to condemn you because you should have known this if you're gonna take this position. It's very chicken shit arguer. Right? But I'm running into guys like this before but its effective. Its effective. Very effective. Meanwhile, if you're against Muslims in the United States of Gitmo Nation... You recall that guy who vandalized the mosque and left bacon on the door handle? Yeah. Vaguely. Well he was sentenced! What do ya think he got? A pound o' pork

2:03:42 Now, remember this I'll say this is in context of your revelation on the previous episode that in California now any you break into a car you steal anything up to $1,000 it's just a misdemeanor. It's like whatever who cares? Well they don't even book it Yeah, just the cops don't want to deal with it so this guy vandalized the mosque mainly by putting pork Bacon on the door. So seriously, what time? He got jail time I'll tell you that! Jail time for that how much do you think he got? Year a man who vandalized the mosque in Central, Florida by smashing windows leaving raw bacon at the scene pleaded guilty to criminal mischief Police arrested Michael Wolff in January 2016 after surveillance video showed him smashing lights cameras and windows with a machete He was sentenced to 15 years in prison followed by 15 years of probation Wow

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2:12:40 And it's highly, highly appreciated. When Patreon came on the scene as a sort of value for value type idea, the idea of donating to creative projects and started with podcasts and expanded into blogs and knitting projects they changed the way they do their billing and everyone is up in arms about it Did you follow this? Have you seen exactly what changed. Yeah, I looked at it the whole thing is apparently even with their old method they had extra fees and it was really taking more like 10% off the top or more and now they're gonna change the way that money comes in then they're gonna take money from the donors somehow. I don't know what point of this by the way but I think its very poorly executed They are going to take some money from the donor so donations that they take 5-10 % out

2:13:29 will be less. And so it's just a screw job, it seems to me this is...I think and we talked about this over the dinner table. Well, it's not only that, it's also the people who are donating get docked extra too. That's what I said the donors. Oh, yes, the donors but then they way they do it, you said okay $5 a week or month whatever And that would be deducted all in one go. Yeah, no now the donors are getting dinged at the beginning and so then but the total that goes into get dinged even more is lower right? So a lot of donors say this isn't what I'm not donating five bucks or you guys can take 50 cents

2:14:06 I'm donating five bucks so it can go to them even though they're getting dinged out. They could have done it better, they could have just jacked up their prices is what the... This is what it amounts to but they're doing in some tricky dick way." Now doesn't seem to be that complicated for them to just run a straightforward business and take a piece of the action. These guys keep taking VC money too! How can they not be making money on this? How hard can it be?! It's just a website Yeah, it's just a good not hosting anything. It's just you know its process. They're not hosting the feeds yeah I don't get it how much money do they need well? Yeah, I mean PayPal only takes up whatever it is four and a half to five percent

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2:15:35 You know, kind of thing is not elaborate at all. You can't do a 989s thing you can't do anything well It's very limited and then they take money I mean come on and I don't understand why people hate PayPal and hate everybody in everything How come all these creators aren't thriving on Bitcoin donations? Seems like that would be an obvious thing to do everyone hates PayPal it sucks so you have your money what you think is money You should use that. Anyway... Yeah, but PayPal you know the thing about PayPal is it's very easy to move the money from the PayPal account right into your bank account just bang and you can do it as often as you want even do a daily! The Patreon guys they give you a check once a month I don't even know if you get a mailing list from them. Ummm....I've never had this question answered there's anybody out there using Patreon answer the question

2:16:29 You have like I would say 5,000 subscribers for five bucks a month. It's good you know it was very reasonable and Do you had to do they give you the mailing list of the 5000 people so you can further? Solicit them for other things like maybe you have a premium product or a t-shirt you want to send them Do you get that mailing list or not yeah that is that is a outstanding quote I don't know if you get that with patreon or not but I know they send me emails about As a as a as a what do you call it patron? Oh, well there. You go this shy anyway I don't know that answer to that question But the rest of it is still unlike it and I don't know what's happened Is no surprise to us right and you know the idea of checks electronic checks so multiple other types of Payment systems you should get on all of them That's our recommendation Yeah Get pop money

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2:20:47 Okay, what about the Russia? Well the Russia thing. It's it's kind of in the rotation and now there's this Peters What's his name scrotum I always remembers Peter scrotum struck struck. Oh yeah the struck story Yeah He's the bad FBI agent now you may have heard some reporting about it here and there what I have is from C-SPAN the Congressional hearing this is Jim Jordan. He's a Republican from Ohio and he's talking to the great clip I almost was gonna put it on my yeah, Jordan's great He just grills him and then this is as we know This is all theater It's all set up and Ray is a he's a Trump appointee So I presume he's in on the game And he got the script ahead of hand ahead of time but there the idea behind you see the idea behind this is positioning a

2:21:40 Uh, uh... this Stroke guy Peter Stroke as the bad actor who was responsible for everything bad. Director was Agent Peter Struck the former deputy head of counterintelligence at the FBI? I don't remember his exact title, but i believe that's correct. And he is the same Peter Strzok who was a key player in the Clinton investigation The same Peter Strzok who interviewed Cheryl Mills whom Abedin participated in Secretary Clinton interview and he also the same Peter Strzok now we know changed director Comey exoneration letter changed term

2:22:16 gross negligence, which is a crime to extreme carelessness. Is that the same guy? Well Congressman I don't know every step that the individual you mentioned was involved in but certainly i know that he was heavily involved in the Clinton email investigation Thank You and it's just the same Peter Strzok who helped was a key player in the Russian investigation and the same Peter Strzok who was put on Mueller's team special counsel Bob Muellers' team I certainly know that he was working on the special counsel's investigation, whether or not he would be characterized as a key player in that investigation. That is really no for me to say. In this same Peter Strzok we learned this past weekend was removed from the special counsel team because he exchanged text messages with a colleague at the FBI that were displayed pro-Clinton bias? Is that accurate? Yes. Talk about the same guy.

2:23:05 Well, here's what I'm not getting. Peter Strzok is selected to be on Mueller's team after all this history put on Mueller's team And then he's removed for some pro-Clinton text messages. I mean, there are all kinds of people on Mueller's team who are pro Clinton. There have been all kinds of stories. PolitiFact reported 96% of the top lawyers' contributions went to Clinton or Obama. But Peter Strzok, the guy who ran the Clinton investigation interviewed Mills, Abedin, interviewed Secretary Clinton changed gross negligence and crime to the term extreme carelessness, who ran the Russian investigation, who interviewed Mike Flynn gets gets put on Mueller's team, and then he gets kicked off for a text message that's anti-Trump. If he kicked everybody off Mueller's team who was anti Trump I don't think there'd be anybody left so here there's got to be something more here it can't just be some text messages that show a pro Clinton anti Trump bias there's gotta be something more

2:23:59 And I'm trying to figure out what it is. But my hunch is, it has something to do with the dossier director did Peter Strzok help produce and present the application to the FISA court To secure a warrant to spy on Americans associated with the Trump campaign. Congressman, I am not prepared to discuss anything about a FISA process in this setting We're not talking about what happened in the court we are talking about what the FBI took to the court The application Did Peter Strzok, was he involved in taking that to the court? I'm not going to discuss in this setting anything to do with the FISA Court applications. Well let's remember a couple things Director and I know you know this we've all been made aware of this last few weeks Let's remember a couple things about the dossier The Democrat National Committee and Clinton campaign

2:24:46 which we now know were one in the same, paid the law firm who paid Fusion GPS who paid Christopher Steele who then paid Russians to put together a report that we call dossier full of all kinds of fake news National Enquirer garbage and it's been reported that this dossier was all dressed up by the FBI, taken to the FISA court and presented as a legitimate intelligence document basis for granting a warrant to spy on Americans. And I'm wondering if that actually took place? It sure looks like it did and the easiest way to clear it up is for you guys to tell us what was in that application and who took it there. Congressman our staff have been having extensive interaction with both intelligence committees on our interaction with the FISA Court and I think thats appropriate setting for those questions

2:25:32 Well, seems like Peter Strzok is gonna be the fall guy. Did you get the kicker? I don't have it where they... Jordan holds up a document that was two days old. He says they sent it to the FBI to get this information about the FISA court warrant, and then the kicker is when he kicks back because he runs out of time...kicks back to the chairman. The chairman—because this is a judicial issue… I should cut it off if we made it all too long but yeah go ahead He says, hey we're the ones that have jurisdiction over all of this including the FISA court. So if we want this information you have to give it to us but he hasn't produced it. As far as we know he hasn't no

2:26:18 So this is interesting. Now all of this, you know comes down to the... And actually it goes if you look at what happened with Flynn everyone was all going goo-goo ga-ga that ah yes now we have proof about the collusion about them You know talking To the Russians and what's interesting is someone sent me this clip We have to go back in time It's about a year Let's just go back. Oh, I feel younger already! This is a classic Matt Lee clip over there at the State Department this is before Heather came in this is still the other dude you know big binder man and Lee is... Matt Lee is talking about the Trump administration talking to the Russians. You probably have seen reports starting yesterday but then more of them this morning about contact between

2:27:14 the incoming national security advisor and the Russian ambassador. I'm just wondering from a State Department's point of view, is this something that's of concern at all? Or – well, I'll just leave it there and then follow up. Again, not necessarily. I've seen the reports. I don't think they've been confirmed or corroborated yet but that's – as he's part of the transition team, that's really for them to speak to and how they are engaging. I mean, the president-elect is also engaged on his own with many world leaders so

2:27:52 I don't want to speculate and I don't want to – QUESTIONABLE So there's nothing – this building doesn't see anything necessarily inappropriate about contact between members of the incoming administration and foreign officials no matter what country they're from, right? MR TONER No. And again, this has been ongoing. I mean we stand ready if they want to work through the State Department to contact some of these individuals but we have you know, no comment or no problem with them doing such on their own. Isn't that interesting? Yeah yeah that was uh... That's been played a lot in regard to this whole thing So how do we get from that back to 2017 To this Well I have a clip from today

2:28:40 Okay, today's from today's world of the morning Joe's a campaign and Trump didn't think he was going to win even on election day But it was all about money. It was all about making contacts We've said this before but I think the most remarkable thing about it is that even now that he's president, it's still all about money. Like he is not sitting there thinking what Barack Obama or George W Bush or Bill Clinton or Ronald Reagan thought like what is my legacy going to be? He's thinking every day how can I leverage this so when I get out of the White House I can make even more money Knowing them

2:29:21 I think they're shocked that the noose is tightening because i don't know if they were arrogant or just incredibly unselfaware and really dumb about like what the job was about how important it was and how under the microscope every move you made would be. I think they just thought they'd go in there and flim-flam and riff through it, you know? And I think they're shocked that the noose is tightening and people might go to jail! You're exactly right for the rest of their lives So the rest of their lives, they're going to jail. For the rest of their lives... These two are deluded. Yeah. There is one thing that I think is being overlooked. We know...I have a feeling that Trump and Mueller may be inadvertently but who knows?

2:30:10 could be actually working together on one particular thing. You know, Trump has a problem and you've mentioned this many times and they're kind of off the radar right now The problem is Jared and Ivanka They're problematic you specifically in particular do not like them in the context of being part of the political process Right And I'm pretty sure that Trump has also got his He's got his son-in-law, who you can't fire his son in law. I mean this is favorite daughter. It's a family mess and even though the guy is a big tough one on your fired...I don't think he has the stomach to do that. No yeah they've got balls to get rid of him So something I think the following deal was cut with Michael Flynn

2:30:56 It's like we have to have some offense, so he has a felony offense for lying to the FBI. Fell on his sword. Yeah, fell on his sword because who told him to do what he did? It wasn't Trump it was Jared. It could be a setup to get rid of him and I think it is and I think Jared is out Well, let's hope so. Maybe to jail! I want to bring something up before we go on to get too carried away which was this thing with Strzok again and the letter that he wrote one of his colleagues saying Trump said a-hole and let's get him or whatever... By the way her name is Lisa Page and she worked for remember the state representative whose wife the Clintons gave $650,000?

2:31:47 She used to work for him or for her, I think. So it's all tied in." Well here is what is not tied in... How do they know about this letter? I have no idea! Let's play this clip. This is McFarland, it was about Katie McFarland and the intercepted discussion. This is from Democracy Now! Meanwhile The New York Times is reporting that a high-ranking member of Trump's transition team falsely told lawmakers that she was unaware of contacts between Michael Flynn and Russia's ambassador. The Times cited newly discovered emails that show the adviser, Katie McFarland discussed a December 29th phone call between Flynn and Ambassador Sergey Kislyak

2:30:56 It's like we have to have some offense, so he has a felony offense for lying to the FBI. Fell on his sword. Yeah, fell on his sword because who told him to do what he did? It wasn't Trump it was Jared. It could be a setup to get rid of him and I think it is and I think Jared is out Well, let's hope so. Maybe to jail! I want to bring something up before we go on to get too carried away which was this thing with Strzok again and the letter that he wrote one of his colleagues saying Trump said a-hole and let's get him or whatever... By the way her name is Lisa Page and she worked for remember the state representative whose wife the Clintons gave $650,000?

2:31:47 She used to work for him or for her, I think. So it's all tied in." Well here is what is not tied in... How do they know about this letter? I have no idea! Let's play this clip. This is McFarland, it was about Katie McFarland and the intercepted discussion. This is from Democracy Now! Meanwhile The New York Times is reporting that a high-ranking member of Trump's transition team falsely told lawmakers that she was unaware of contacts between Michael Flynn and Russia's ambassador. The Times cited newly discovered emails that show the adviser, Katie McFarland discussed a December 29th phone call between Flynn and Ambassador Sergey Kislyak

2:32:29 by U.S. intelligence? Okay, so there's an email between McFarland and somebody—private citizens by the way—was intercepted by US intelligence and then somehow discovered by The New York Times as if it wasn't slipped to The New York Times. And how does it get discovered? I mean that needs a warrant by itself! Yeah, it's not discovered. It was leaked and the same thing with the struck letter thing This was also apparently something the NSA I'm guessing the NSA could be anybody but the NSA or one of the agencies illegally leaked Captured and then illegally leaked yeah

2:33:07 It's a mess. This is ridiculous, this is completely out of control and this is one of the reasons they've got to change the way this law is written because it's being abused that section whatever it is 702 I think it's 702 or something one of those I think it's that are seven something and they can't pass this again because these guys are abusing this this is not supposed to be...this was me for terrorism Didn't they all that terrorism here? This is gets these stealing the email of Katie McFarland I'm surprised these people haven't put up a fuss about this. Yeah Hmm, well everything's falling apart in the intelligence community that is I mean it FBI man. I don't know what's going on there

2:33:55 But just look at with the mess they've made out of the Vegas massacre. You know that it turns out that not only did FBI leak, no I think the FBI sanctioned the leak of the paddock photo but they also moved the body before you know the whole scene was recorded and documented? I guess they staged the body to look good for the photo or something? I didn't know this Yeah this is just new, it came out before The whole thing's a mess! All right. I have a current Russia clip that I held on to for an episode or two There's something going on Tillerson, you know, he is of course a big oil guy big big oil Big oil and he's been doing deals And someone caught wind of it and it came up in the State Department briefing with Heather Nowart who also has that big binder Deputy Assistant Secretary McCarrick told a group of European journalists

2:34:51 that I quote, we don't see the possibility that Nord Stream 2 is going to be built. Now he's talking about Nord Stream two and this is a big deal for Russia because they already have the original Nord stream that basically goes into Europe now this is a partnership with Gazprom so this is gas Royal Dutch Shell, E.ON, OMV and Angie I think? And the path is... this-I think this is the one that was uh let me see if I have a picture of it here Let's see the Nord Stream yeah This is the one that would go around Finland down to what enters Germany at Greifswald and so goes through the sea So it goes right underneath Finland

2:35:48 and it's all in the water. So, you know no one really benefits from this but Tillerson has been talking about it with the Russians. That is not something that we are going to assume is going to happen Could you explain what is this statement based on? And I'm wondering if the topic has been discussed during the meeting between Secretary Tillerson and German Foreign Minister and what was the conclusion of their discussion if, in fact, it was one of the topics. MS NAUERTTROM Yeah, I can tell you that that conversation did not come up – Nord Stream 2 was not one of the topics that came up in my presence. Now they may have had a separate sideline conversation that I did not witness so that may have come up. In terms

2:36:34 where exactly we are on Nord Stream 2. Pardon me one second, another topic related to that is the multi-line Turkish stream as I understand it so our position on this would be that Europe is certainly working to try and diversify where it gets its energy. I've spoken with some of your colleagues before, people from that part of the world as well and recognizing that there should be and could be more sources of energy. We have seen in the very cold winter months where Vladimir Putin – which is where a lot of your energy comes from, in particular in Poland – where he will turn down, turn off those energy supplies

2:37:19 causing costs to go up and causing people So we know that Europe is working to diversify its energy sector overall. It's also assessing projects that would undermine some of these efforts. We agree with many of our European partners that Nord Stream 2 and a multiline Turkish stream would reinforce Russian dominance in Europe's gas markets, it would reduce opportunities for diversification of energy sources, it would pose security risks in an already tense Baltic Sea region, and it would advance Russia's goal of undermining Ukraine. That is a particular concern of ours by ending Ukraine's role as a transit country for Russian gas exports to get to Europe." Do you see the problem? This Nord Stream 2 is not in our interest and Tillerson is out there doing the business of American gas and oil companies. Yes well that what he was supposed to do. Didn't we expect this?

2:38:18 Yeah, but I what a missed opportunity for the media to highlight that it's actually going on. They don't care about that It's got nothing to do with Trump really who would concentrate about 75% of Russian gas imports to the EU through a single route Creating a potential checkpoint that would significantly increase Europe's vulnerability. I think she means choke point not checkpoint to a supply of – so we believe that these two projects would enable Gazprom to cut off transit via Ukraine and still meet demand in Western Europe, which would economically undermine Ukraine by depriving it of about $2 billion in annual transit revenue. Okay? QUESTIONS ASKED OFF-MIC QUESTIONER But is the statement correct that you don't believe that the project would be built – that Nord Stream 2 will be built? And Secretary Tillerson called recently the Nord Stream

2:39:10 UNWISE, what are you doing to stop this UNWISE project? So sir I don't have the Secretary's comments in front of me so i hesitate to comment on having something that... Two days ago at Woodrow Wilson Center. I understand, I just don't have the exact quote in front of me so I'm not going to comment on that and the other person who made a remark I am afraid I don't have it with me either So the oil pipeline wars continue. Yeah, that's not gonna end anytime soon no duration of the show That's for sure probably go on forever No But it is a it is of note since we follow these pipeline stories I have how are we doing for time? We should be at the limit here now. We can do a couple more I think well I have a couple of clips that I want to use

2:39:57 I have a WTF clip which is always interesting. I have a Trump lies clip because they're always saying he's lying all the time and i was listening to this clip and I'm wondering whether it's, excuse me, a deliberate lie or just he doesn't know? Play the black home ownership clip from CBS. Ah, yes At last night's rally in Pensacola Florida President Trump implied African-Americans are doing better under his leadership Black home ownership just hit the highest level it's ever been in the history of our country

2:40:34 Now despite the president's claim, African-American home ownership actually peaked in 2004. It seems the key audience for the President's speech were Gulf Coast Republicans primarily those heading to the polls next week in Alabama's special election. Reena? I haven't looked into this but it is possible he was told that homeownership had peaked or gone up and he didn't realize it was really high in 2004 so I don't believe this was a lie No. Well, I think he's misinformed. I saw this entire speech or this rally in Pensacola Florida which the Scientology capital of the South no no it's Clearwater. Oh i'm sorry I thought you said Pensacola. Clearwater

2:41:21 And I have to say because you know, but I was tuning in to watch Carlson Tucker Carlson then like oh it's not gonna be his show cuz the president is gonna do some shindig and CNN MSNBC did not carry the speech Obviously this was a speech intended to rile up voters Just across the state line which is what 25 30 miles away in Alabama to vote for for Roy Moore But for a Friday evening, this was some good entertainment. He was truly in rare form John you would have enjoyed it I mean it was just one after the other, just zinger after zinger and he was just- The audience was into it which is really good that's where this came from DINGO! I mean he was just delivering beauties to us nonstop It was really quite good When he's on a roll he can be pretty funny Yeah and the reason why this came up

2:42:15 Bizby Cuss, he said oh look at my man over there. It was blacksfortrump2020.com There's a movement Blacks for Trump and that's when he brought up this factoid which is not... And he's getting better it off the cuff and then going back to the teleprompter but he had all kinds of new moves man He had a chop move. He kept doing a chop move with his hand like a karate chop Then he was just I don't know what they... Someone's gotta look into that we may be looking See if Bombard's body language helps us at all. Probably not And then I would be remiss if I did not play this clip for you This is the Pussy Scouts of America, pussyscoutsofamerica.com which apparently is prepubescent teenage girls and they hate the president and They have a website You could look it up John while we're playing the clip pussyscoutsofamerica.com

2:43:13 Is it PussyScouts.com or Pussyscoutsofamerica? I believe it's Pussyscouts dot com and here is their little song Oh Scouts! Ready for your song about President Trump Granny bee's droppin' her feet that sick We're not a rap about our brothers, you sexist dick You call women fat pigs? Show no respect Try to grab my pussy? You gonna get wrecked Cutting plant hair and hood health care And it didn't work fuck me and fucked up hair! You said the ladies? You gotta treat them like chicks Use rapists, sex assault culprits I'd take away a woman's abortion right My bitch lives warring. I'll take it down in a fight Like Princess Leia choked out Jabba the Hutt The women's march showed women's mouth can be shut Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious sex is not my pony

2:43:56 Yeah! Bullshit, racist Muslim immigrants that you hate and berate. Is this ignorance? Don't make America great. Outside was backwards. We're future boss bitches and we drop the mic. PussyScouts dot com The pussy hat emerged in the Women's March as a powerful symbol of the fight for equality Get your hat or get involved with the cause and get a shirt Girls just want to have fun demental rights This is what a feminist looks like PussyScouts dot com Child abuse. Well, it's child abuse is obviously put together by the Roger Stone of the Democrats whoever that might be But this is a fake operation There's no question about it and these girls they don't even know what sex is and they're talking about grabbing well That's because there's all scripted They've given us to say this thing that you can be a little star for awhile And so this is pathetic yeah You're right really really sad and it is this child abuse

2:45:01 In fact, it's really bad. I think is a felony to make the have kids cussing and talking like that No not good At least at Roger Stone people play with adults Yeah It was bad very bad The funny thing is there's a couple of ran into this when I was doing a search for this American Boy Scouts express interest in pussy grabbing badge. Now, this is bull crap too obviously but there's a thing you know this is again we're back to that cycle of you know Trump being a And so we're seeing stuff like this for this round because the other round of all this sexual humiliation, sexual whatever it is, is ending with this election on Tuesday and they got to get things cranked up in a different way. And that's what we're going to see. Wait a minute say that again about Tuesday? Tuesday there's the whole sexual harassment thing is gonna slow down because that's the election day! Right yeah... That's when it all ends

2:46:05 It doesn't end completely because people, a lot of people don't realize it's supposed to end. And so they'll kind of drag it out but is pretty much gonna and whatever happens the more if he gets elected then... What do you think? I think as a toss up I think he can get anything not win he could win either way. I think that Alabamans are pretty independent thinkers and though I believe they're probably voting him in out of spite right That wouldn't surprise me. I just want to thank everybody for, and I put a couple of these notes into the show notes 989.noagendanotes.com you can find it archive.noagendanotes.com or just bingit.io Bing it! Just bing it yes CRISPR this is the DNA editing stuff

2:46:54 And Illuminati, who's done a lot of good art for us is a molecular biologist and she used CRISPR to change the DNA in yeast so it can produce a protein of our choosing. For instance she says we can get yeast to make insulin and other kinds of beneficial proteins. This CRISPR technology was discovered in 87 became commonly used in 2013 and got innovation of the year award in 2015. It stands for cluster regulatory interspaced short palindromic repeats Without getting too technical, she says it essentially mimics how bacteria protects itself from viruses by ripping apart the invading DNA making it inert. It then stores the genetic information into a library to better identify any future attacks or future invasions of the same species I think this is what they're using in the UK for the rats! Could be...

2:47:50 It's a long way to go for that one. No, but I didn't that even just came to mind But I mean this is very interesting stuff and you can pretty much do it at home almost yeah This would be disabled. It's a new era Yeah, I have one last clip all right. This is my Iraq. I it says you rock by the way the you oh Iraq, ISIS US troops WTF VBS. Well Iraq declared victory today over ISIS. Iraq's prime minister says the Islamic militant group was driven out of its final stronghold along the Syrian border. I suspect into Iraq in 2014 three years of fighting above cities and villages and ruins with about 3 million Iraqis displaced American troops will remain in Iraq for the foreseeable future that's right

2:48:43 Why are we remaining? For the money, baby. For the money. The foreseeable future... Great! That was fantastic Mr Bush for bringing us into that thing. Well how about Mr Trump not- Trillions of dollars How about Mr Trump not getting us out? Well how about Mr Obama not getting us out He promised that he'd take it to the bank Take it to the bank And what you can take to the bank is that will be here again on Thursday for another deconstruction of your media universe We are your guardians of reality This IS The No Agenda Show, your show. You produce it We need you to help So remember us at Dvorak dot org slash NA for Thursday's show And if you have not yet subscribed go get the newsletter noagendashow dot com It is right there on the homepage I'm coming to you from downtown Austin Texas we are the capital of the drone star state and damn proud of it in the common law condo In the 5 by 9 Cluedio Its FEMA region 6 and the government maps In the morning everybody

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2:50:31 The statement you made about your trip to Gatemo Nation GMT is that there are no rats. Just no rats? Because of the foxes Are you sure there's no rats? Well, I didn't see any rats So i'm sure there's rats all over the place but the foxes keep the ones that are visible down Experts at Edinburgh University have come up with a solution to the apparent rat problem in the UK Science! The researchers are proposing releasing genetically mutated rats into the rat population. Science! What could possibly go wrong? Wow! Genetically mutated rats are in your future. Science! Giant rats who can- that can walk. Giant rats... ...that can talk. That'd be fantastic. No. Science! Yeah, yeah.

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