Episode 986 · Monday, 15 January 2018

Fruit Machine

From the absurdity of the Canadian fruit machine to the geopolitical fallout of presidential retweets, the landscape of global media and power undergoes a radical shift.

By The No Agenda Show | 2h 43m listen | 45 chapters
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The No Agenda Show · No. 986

About this episode

President Donald Trump ignited a diplomatic firestorm after retweeting anti-Muslim videos from Jayda Fransen of the far-right group Britain First, drawing a rare public rebuke from Prime Minister Theresa May. The White House defended the move as a necessary spotlight on national security, even as the authenticity of the footage remains in question. Meanwhile, North Korea successfully launched the Hwasong-15 ICBM, reaching an altitude of 2,800 miles and demonstrating a theoretical strike range that includes Washington, D.C.

In the wake of the Matt Lauer termination at NBC News, media organizations are grappling with a wave of sexual misconduct allegations involving high-profile figures like Garrison Keillor and Representative John Conyers. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau issued a formal apology for Canada's historical "Gay Purge," referencing the pseudo-scientific "fruit machine" used in the 1950s to identify LGBTQ2 individuals. In the financial sector, Bitcoin volatility reached new extremes as a CNBC live segment on Coinbase failed mid-broadcast, fueling concerns over the "Tethergate" liquidity crisis at Bitfinex. Additionally, Microsoft announced a massive redevelopment of its Redmond campus, featuring cricket fields designed for its expanding international workforce.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak break down the "spook" potential of the Meghan Markle and Prince Harry engagement, suggesting the royal union may have intelligence community ties. The duo also recounts a London meetup featuring a Star Wars set designer and laments the decline of traditional English carveries like Simpsons in the Strand. The episode concludes with a look at Dalhousie University's new emergency hijab kits and the mysterious lack of brand names in recent FDA warnings about poisonous dog treats.


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CHAPTER 01 / 45 Discussion

Skype Interface Changes and Technical Difficulties

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the show discussing technical hurdles encountered after a brief vacation. They criticize the new Skype interface and describe the hour-long process required to reconfigure microphones and audio settings. The hosts note that software updates often disrupt established broadcasting workflows.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· skype· microsoft· technical difficulties· podcasting

00:00 Oh, it's to the moon. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. And Thursday, November 30th, 2017, this is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 9 or 8-6. This is no agenda. Back on the stick, ready to deconstruct your world and broadcasting live from downtown Austin, Tejas, Capitol of the Drone Star State in the Cluedio in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I'm retweeting everything, I'm John C. Dvorak. Do we have a lag is that what that would happen or you just fall asleep

00:37 Do we have a lag I guess oh boy. Okay? We'll see if it gets better. We have new Skype so the experience should be fabulous No We went through about an hour what I was yeah an hour of Reconfiguring my check yeah, Mike check it always happens when you come back from vacation you think nothing's nothing's changed. Nothing's changed Yeah, something changed. You're using a completely different mic now. Oh Yeah, I had to go if that was it three mics to get something that sounds good. Yeah, and we saw some Skype stuff I don't know Skype is pissing me off. Well. They changed that interface again. It's like what can't find anything yeah

CHAPTER 02 / 45 Discussion

Microsoft Redmond Campus Redevelopment and Cricket Fields

Microsoft announced plans to demolish its existing Redmond campus to build a "Microsoft City" featuring modern warehouses and recreational facilities. The proposed design includes soccer and cricket fields, which the hosts suggest is a nod to the company's significant Indian workforce. Critics describe the architectural renderings as resembling prisons or warehouses rather than an innovative corporate hub.

microsoft· redmond· campus· architecture· cricket· soccer· india

01:17 Anyway, there's Microsoft Microsoft Microsoft about to build out a new Microsoft City. Oh Really and they're gonna tear down the Redmond campus which everyone says, you know, it's threadbare needs to be torn down and so they're gonna tear it down and build a Microsoft City and they put a example of this and they send a press release out it looks like crap and It does no architectural touch whatsoever. It's just a bunch of buildings that look like warehouses or prisons Really and then they're gonna have stuff like a soccer field and a cricket field for all The cricket nuts that work at Microsoft anybody's an Indian would like it. They don't have a basket I don't hear about a basketball court or a football field or a baseball. Where's the baseball field? Hmm. Everybody plays softball dodgeball at least

02:12 No, no cricket and soccer. I didn't know this doing away with all those buildings that have just a number on it I'm in building nine. It's cool. Yeah, yeah, they're getting rid of all that And everyone said everyone's you know is this threadbare? I've been to the campus for some years, so maybe it is threadbare. Well, they're putting up It's not interesting. I'll tell you power to them. I'm switching the windows power to them. Yeah, well yeah Let me go to the Mac Yeah, that'll be the day It can happen No, I don't think so. Yeah, you used to use a Mac anyway screw that we're back. We're live It is the 30th of November. I only slept like four hours last night So if I have trouble finding stuff then please excuse me. I was talking to your wife all night. Yeah Yeah, doing some admin stuff. She's good. Yeah, I now I know why you married her I

CHAPTER 03 / 45 Discussion

London No Agenda Meetup and Star Wars Set Designer

Adam Curry recounts a recent No Agenda listener meetup in London attended by approximately 30 producers, including one who traveled from Munich. A notable attendee was a set designer and art director for the Star Wars franchise working out of Pinewood Studios. The discussion touches on the tension between UK-based film crews and Hollywood unions due to lower production costs in Britain.

london· meetup· star wars· pinewood studios· munich· producers

03:09 She's good at that what you're describing. That's what she's good at. This sounds lewd, but it's not. She's good at she used to go find people who had their books were all a mess and they're back. It was just a screwed up mess and she'd go fix it. No, she's like Nancy Drew. She's a fixer. No, no. Yes, she is. But she's like Nancy Drew. She's like, Know a lot about you now What oh yeah? She tries to tell me if some of the so I'm not interested like what about me We should try and tell you what I do. Yeah, well, how about some professional courtesy here? What's up with that? Talked over about it

03:49 My god, Adam's really weird. What are these charges? Oh my god Here's the best part he's like Yeah, you even have some bogus charges. So really yeah like $8 and I like it's got to be porn like yeah bogus charges Alright, so tell me about the meetup. I saw luckily that someone had a cardboard cutout head of mine on a stick. I was very happy to be able to participate. Yeah, we had a ceremony afterwards burning it. Okay, thanks buddy. About 30 people, one of our producers came in from Munich. Hallo Deutschland, here's the Hof!

04:32 And everybody else was, you know, from around the area. I mean, London, greater London. And it was fantastic. And some women who showed up. Were they hot? They were all, yes, they were incredibly hot. And then we had, one of the guys is interesting, he's a set designer and art director for the Star Wars franchise. Oh, really? Yeah, over there. It works out of Pinewood. Oh, yeah when they go out when they go to Hollywood to pick up an award or something everybody hates them because they're the Harry Potter studios is that why? Yes, whatever it is is because they're just cuz they did cheaper Yeah, non-union and they're taking away business. Yeah, no wonder they hate him

CHAPTER 04 / 45 Discussion

London Pub Ownership and Eastern European Labor

A visit to London revealed that two major corporations now own the majority of local pubs, leading to a perceived loss of traditional character. Observations are made regarding the high number of Eastern European workers in the service industry and the prevalence of outdoor smoking despite national health regulations. The hosts contrast the current state of London with previous visits and other European cities like Amsterdam.

london· pubs· cornwall· eastern europe· labor· smoking

05:19 Yeah, this is really dangerous to go to Hollywood. Did you learn anything? Did you learn any local color? I mean, what were you guys doing there? Did you have any travel issues? Was it just a ho-hum? We went off to London and it was all great, here's a t-shirt? No, I got a whole list of things. I got talking points. We did a lot of... This was actually an interesting trip for me because I hadn't been to London for about four or five years. And every other time I went it was like so expensive I'd try to go I'd go to Amsterdam right like by comparison is dirt cheap entertainment is cheap there and So there's only so here's the cover. I just go through my list. I think this is very interesting okay Most of the pubs in London are owned by two companies. I should have known this I

06:03 Should have yeah, and it's ridiculous. They have no Brits. I was with okay We had here's how many people we had a total of eight people including a couple friends of Mimi's and mine who live out in Cornwall one of them is a Credibly famous harmonica player. Oh two months, and he is with the Ruts you ever heard of them No, I don't think so. It's funny. He said he'd know And also the four the four guys or something just a bunch of British fans, so he He says that he was annoyed, he's annoyed by London having no British people working in the pubs. They're all from Eastern Europe. And it was pretty obvious. And everybody is on list number two. Everybody smokes. In the pub? I thought that wasn't allowed. Are they allowed to smoke? No, no, they're outside the pub, but everybody's smoking all the time. Yeah, well, that's Britain for you. Yeah, well, I thought they'd be off it by now, you'd think. Well, you'd think that with that great national health system that, you know, they'd be forbidden.

CHAPTER 05 / 45 Discussion

Norwegian Airlines and Gatwick Express Logistics

Travel logistics between the United States and London are discussed, highlighting Norwegian Airlines' influence on the market. British Airways has reportedly copied Norwegian's direct routes to cities like Austin and Oakland. The hosts praise the Gatwick Express train service for its affordability when booked in advance for groups but criticize the distance of the airport from central London.

norwegian airlines· british airways· gatwick airport· oakland· austin· transportation

07:04 Hey, you want NHS? No smoking for you. Duty-free fiasco. I got a list job to go through so I don't skip anything. Come we flew in and out of Oakland Gatwick direct flight. That's because I was told by they talk with a crew I spent a lot of time in the back talking to the crew that's because Norwegian is making this trip Everything Norwegian Airlines does British Air copy yeah, and they're doing the same with Austin That's why we have a flight from London to Austin and they have I think they even have a budget airline that they're gonna do a special one for South by or something so they have So we go to find the Gatwick

07:43 Which is, I don't know, it's like three days away from London, but it's close enough. Well you took the train though. Yeah, the train. The guy with the express is nice. If you order online in advance, when you have more than a couple people with you, they drop the price so it's a $10 ride. Oh nice. It's a pretty good deal. So on the way back, I want to mention this. It's so commercial in London right now. I've never seen so many department stores. There must be I brought up with my wife, I said, how many, or anybody, how many Macy's are in New York City? Big city, you know, New York. I don't know, four maybe? One! You surprised me even, just one, yes. Fifth Avenue Macy's. The big giant Macy's. There's probably 150 Marks and Spencers. Yeah. Name any other department store, there's hundreds of them. Harrods, how many Harrods are there?

CHAPTER 06 / 45 Discussion

London Retail Commercialization and Airport Duty-Free Traps

London's retail landscape is described as excessively commercial, with a high density of department stores like Marks and Spencer compared to New York City. The hosts criticize Gatwick Airport's layout, which forces passengers through a winding "Ikea-style" duty-free shop to reach their gates. This mandatory path exposes travelers to aggressive perfume hawkers and commercial displays.

marks and spencer· harrods· gatwick airport· duty-free· ikea· retail

08:33 You got me on that. Aha, only one. Hello. Nope, there's more than one. They have a bunch of these outlets because all these stores now are doing these little food stores for prepared food. Right. And Marks and Spencer has one or two or ten or twenty or a hundred. And so people are really buying this prepared food. It's already made for you. Yeah, and they get it at the gas station at Tesco's. Everywhere. Yes, Tesco's got a little store there. So they don't cook, they eat chemicals packaged in plastic and they smoke. Yeah, the beaches are open. It's gone so commercial you go to the you go to get wick to go to the gates Yeah, you go through the check. You know they give you a hassle for whatever you're doing and my wife has some clotted cream Oh, yeah, you could turn that into a bomb you could blow shit up with that. Yeah, so they go to be so here's the gates Let's go

09:28 Instead of going to the gates, they walk you through a random walk that's required. You can't get out of this. There's no shortcuts, there's no way around it, through a giant duty-free store. So you start at a duty-free and then it wanders you around just like an Ikea. Oh, that's right. It has a pathway. You can't get off the path. You have your fort to get to the gate. You're forced to walk through it. I remember this. Yes. Jeez. Yeah. That is deplorable. And meanwhile, while you're going through there, spraying people with perfume, you know, there's a bunch of hawkers all along the way, come on in here, we got your booze, we got your booze. So, but then they're spraying people with perfume. We're going on an airplane, we don't want a bunch of people coated with stinky perfume, but okay.

CHAPTER 07 / 45 Discussion

UK Border Control Automation and Accessibility Issues

New self-scanning passport machines at UK border control are criticized for adding an extra step to the immigration process rather than streamlining it. The hosts speculate that these machines are being beta-tested to eventually replace human officers. Additionally, London is noted for its lack of accessibility for handicapped individuals, citing a dearth of elevators and ramps in public spaces.

passport control· automation· accessibility· london· disability· technology

10:14 You finally get to the gate, once you get to the area where there's the gate and they have these closed little gate areas, there's no bathrooms anywhere nearby and they had these vending machines, none of which worked. So they could be making money there but they don't. The food court, oh yeah, so we're coming back into Oakland. Now they got these new machines these self scanners. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you put your passport on it You put your passport in this thing and you type in a bunch of information and you get this little little card which is like a boarding pass with your picture on it because they take a photo of you and Then you get this little piece of paper and then you have to go to another station Which is passport control

10:54 What did they put this extra step in there for maybe they're just beta testing and getting it ready, so I actually I actually believe that's what they're doing Yeah, yeah, so those guys who are in the booths. There's probably not they're probably worried Hate those booths Somebody pointed out that if you're handicapped or at any way shape or form even minor in London you're screwed They have no considerations. I had you can't find elevators. There's no ramps. It's pathetic Wow Were there any highlights of stuff that you liked? I'm gonna finish this here. Dog shit. People figure the government's gonna clean it up so they have their dogs meet, you know, Jay is a dog walker so she notices this. There's dog shit everywhere because they don't pick up after their dog. It's an outrage.

CHAPTER 08 / 45 Discussion

London Urban Foxes and Garbage Accumulation

Urban foxes are reportedly thriving in London, serving as a natural control for the rat population in the absence of stray cats and dogs. The hosts discuss the practice of relocating urban foxes to the countryside and observe significant piles of garbage in areas off Oxford Street. The conversation links the presence of wildlife to the city's sanitation and pest control challenges.

foxes· rats· london· garbage· oxford street· urban wildlife

11:46 Also, Mimi and her friend Teresa spotted a fox floating around. Remember when Christina was still living in London, the fox would go in and steal her shoes? Yeah. Foxes are all over the place, and they round them up and then drop them off in the country where they die because they don't know what to do there. But there's foxes all over town, and you see no stray cats, no stray dogs, there's nothing in London that's stray and takes care of the rat population. The fox eat them probably.

12:22 Yes, and they also take care of the rat population. So that's a plus. That is a plus. How about garbage? Speaking of rats, is there garbage everywhere? Or is that pretty tight? There is in some parts of like off Oxford Street, you'll find these areas where there's just piles of garbage. Interesting. No, originally programming. Oh, yeah. Here's another one. So British Air apparently has the worst computer system of all the airlines. In fact, it even went down for an entire day once. Yes. And what it is, they used to have a good old coal ball system, but they wanted to upgrade and modernize. And so they never really did that. What they did instead was buy a surplus computer system from

CHAPTER 09 / 45 Discussion

British Airways IT Failures and American Airlines Pilot Glitch

British Airways is criticized for its aging IT infrastructure, which reportedly relies on a surplus system purchased from Qantas and outsourced programming in India. In a related aviation news item, American Airlines experienced a scheduling glitch that left thousands of flights without pilots for the Christmas season. The hosts discuss the financial impact of these technical failures on the airline industry.

british airways· american airlines· cobol· outsourcing· india· it glitch

12:59 So I want us. Oh really? Want this ditch their system because it was a piece of crap and somehow the British Air Geniuses bought it and it doesn't work and everything gets shipped off to India So anything that has to do with anything is all India programmers and they they're just you know, we know what they that's all about They stink Muse trendy IRA versus uh yeah, yes speaking of that you know there was a Glitch at American Airlines a glitch. I said it. I said it. I said it you said it and so they've Accidentally have no pilots booked for Christmas season right? No, it's funny. I wonder what they're gonna. Do you have to pay everybody? Extra over over yeah, no more time. Yeah, there's a bunch of money on that deal. Yeah, I

13:49 Professor Ted laughing his ass off in jail Mimi got funny got sick of the British accent for some reason there was a panic in one of the subway stations because somebody Two guys got into a fight and somebody yelled. He's got a gun. Oh no trampling and people got hurt Oh you guys were in the tube no we were in that's it was Oxford Circus, and we were there a little while earlier um So people are on edge is what you're saying. I don't need anymore of these stories. But people are on edge then, it sounds like. Yeah, yeah, they all ran like crazy. Oh, that sucks.

CHAPTER 10 / 45 Discussion

Oxford Circus Panic and False Terror Alarm

A recent panic at the Oxford Circus tube station was triggered by a physical altercation between two men, leading someone to shout that there was a gun. The incident caused a mass evacuation and a four-hour security lockdown as authorities investigated a potential terrorist attack. The hosts use this as an example of the high level of public anxiety currently present in London.

oxford circus· london tube· terrorism· panic· fight· security

14:28 Anyway, other than that, the weather was good. It wasn't raining. It never rained at all, luckily. And it was freezing cold. And we were over by Paddington in an Airbnb. And it was, I think, a productive trip. I went to Barry Brothers and Rudd and picked up a bunch of wine and cognac and stuff, which we shipped back. I was going to say, you didn't put that in your suitcase. We did check luggage. So I just want to go back to this. So someone in the tube, which is what you say instead of subway, Yelled he's got a gun Two guys got into a fight, apparently. And they were beating each other up and somebody yelled, he's got a gun. And everybody panicked and ran out of the subway as fast as they could. And they shut down Oxford Circus, they cordoned off the area. It was a terrorist attack, they thought. It became a big news item for about four or five hours. They kind of deconstructed it and figured there was nothing going on. It was just two guys getting into a fight. But yeah.

15:26 Yeah, they apparently much fewer trampled. So you had a good time was just you and Mimi in the Airbnb No, it was me, Mimi, JC, Jesse. Oh, the whole family. Oh, okay. And Theodorable? Eric. Eric didn't make it. Theodorable? Theodorable. Jay and her boyfriend. And then we hosted Mitt Gaiman and Teresa Holcomb, who are married. So we had the places packed. I thought it was a logistics nightmare, personally. Sounds like it. How about breakfast?

CHAPTER 11 / 45 Discussion

British Breakfast Culture and UK Yelp Reviews

The hosts discuss the difficulty of finding a high-quality "full English" breakfast and the cultural differences in restaurant reviews. They claim that Yelp is unreliable in the UK because British reviewers prioritize service over food quality. The discussion also touches on the lack of a tipping culture in Britain compared to the United States.

english breakfast· bangers and mash· yelp· reviews· service· tipping

16:02 They all scattered and went to these different English breakfast places. They didn't complain bitterly is it greasy food? Well, but not about that, but even that they do is the no bang nobody had bangers apparently they Have the good British banger because he didn't party hi. I'm Alice. I'm from I'm from California I want some bangers in my ash yeah, yeah, you got to ask for full English. That's what you do That's what they did. Oh, and they didn't have it? I'm the only one who ever asked for bangers and mash because I was trying to get a decent banger. Yeah. And it was, I'd never got one the whole time. Oh, damn. Well, I did a lot of shopping. Because you and Mimi weren't alone. That's why there was no banger for you. There you go. Hey. Restaurant. Oh, here's the, yeah, I got to point this out. JC spotted this idea.

16:52 He says that Yelp, and we kind of documented this, he says Yelp and most of the You Review It sites, you know, where you go to a restaurant and you review it, are useless in the UK. Really? Useless, yes, because everybody judges almost solely on service. And not on food. No, no. Food doesn't make any difference. So you can have the world's greatest meal. You'll get one star because the guy didn't fill your water. I hate to say it, but you know, the Brits, man, they got the priorities mixed up. No, yes. And they don't tip. And they don't tip. So you could. We also went, because I wanted to introduce the kids to this place. This is my last story. Then we'll scatter them out through the next day or two.

CHAPTER 12 / 45 Discussion

Decline of Simpsons in the Strand

A visit to the historic London restaurant Simpsons in the Strand resulted in disappointment due to overcooked meat and poor carving technique. The hosts lament the loss of the traditional English atmosphere, noting that the staff no longer consists of the "old Englishmen" who once defined the carvery experience. Despite the poor food, the restaurant maintains high ratings on review sites due to good service.

simpsons in the strand· london· roast beef· carvery· dining

17:39 So I wanted to show you, yeah, let's go to Simpsons in the Strand. A famous old place where they roll a card out and they have a guy that carves, you know, a carvery. And you get a big piece of meat. I've been there probably five times. I like to show people the place. Roast beef? Did you get roast beef? What kind of cut? Yeah, roast beef. And so you have, they've cleaned the place. It's not as grimy as it used to always be. It used to be kind of old-fashioned grime, it was kind of nice. And I was reading somebody blasting it in The Independent and I was thinking, it can't be that bad. So we go there. For one thing, there's none of the old Englishmen who did the guy coming out with the carving.

18:21 They have a French guy, young kid, a millennial, chopping away and another guy was like from India or Bangalore and he's got the roast of lamb and he's chunking off pieces. It's like he's just randomly, so you get a plate full of chunks. He was no good. The roast beef is overcooked. Oh no. You can't have that. Overcooked. Overcooked and then the same thing this guy's didn't know how to carve and so you get a chunk here and a piece and a thick piece and a thin piece and a piece of scrap and it's all on this plate. It was the worst. I couldn't imagine this meal been it being any worse than this. Service is good. Five stars on Yelp. Yes, perfect. I'm not going back. All right. Ever.

19:10 No, I'll go to try no not back to Simpsons. I'm not gonna go back. Oh, you go back to the UK. Oh, yeah, okay? Didn't want our listeners to think you had a bad experience. No, and I liked her by the way our producers are dynamite Yeah, we have a couple of nights too didn't we I saw some night rings being flashed in photos. Yes the night rings being flashed They wore the rings and flashed them, and I just thought it was a very intelligent crowd of people and They seemed to get along with each other, and I thought was a good meetup. Oh good. I'm glad you did that Yeah, I am too actually. Yeah, outstanding. And now it's time for your sexual harassment update. Tell me about this sexuality. It's in your DNA. You know, we go on vacation. Waiting for three shows to play that clip. Fuck yeah, sorry, yes. Yes, I've been waiting. I said, oh my God, I can't believe it. This happens and we don't have a show. Yeah.

20:05 Mean I was all ready to settle in you know like okay. I'm just not gonna think about the world You know as we got we got Thanksgiving. It's all fine. I'm like oh no Charlie Rose Well Charlie Rose and Garrison Keillor before we go into Charlie Rose. Let's play this Garrison Keillor clip because this is all up The news media wasn't, since they couldn't associate it with Trump. Damn, damn. They just gave it, they gave Garrison Keillor short sheeted by CBS. Folksy radio host Garrison Keillor was fired today for what Minnesota Public Radio calls inappropriate behavior. Keillor told the Minneapolis Star Tribune he had put his hand on a woman's bare back to console her. He said her shirt was open and his hand went up.

CHAPTER 13 / 45 Discussion

Garrison Keillor Fired by Minnesota Public Radio

Folklorist and radio host Garrison Keillor was terminated by Minnesota Public Radio following allegations of inappropriate behavior. Keillor claimed the incident involved placing his hand on a woman's bare back to console her, but the network severed ties regardless. The hosts discuss Keillor's significant influence on the liberal public radio audience and the impact of his removal from "A Prairie Home Companion."

garrison keillor· mpr· npr· sexual misconduct· a prairie home companion

19:10 No, I'll go to try no not back to Simpsons. I'm not gonna go back. Oh, you go back to the UK. Oh, yeah, okay? Didn't want our listeners to think you had a bad experience. No, and I liked her by the way our producers are dynamite Yeah, we have a couple of nights too didn't we I saw some night rings being flashed in photos. Yes the night rings being flashed They wore the rings and flashed them, and I just thought it was a very intelligent crowd of people and They seemed to get along with each other, and I thought was a good meetup. Oh good. I'm glad you did that Yeah, I am too actually. Yeah, outstanding. And now it's time for your sexual harassment update. Tell me about this sexuality. It's in your DNA. You know, we go on vacation. Waiting for three shows to play that clip. Fuck yeah, sorry, yes. Yes, I've been waiting. I said, oh my God, I can't believe it. This happens and we don't have a show. Yeah.

20:05 Mean I was all ready to settle in you know like okay. I'm just not gonna think about the world You know as we got we got Thanksgiving. It's all fine. I'm like oh no Charlie Rose Well Charlie Rose and Garrison Keillor before we go into Charlie Rose. Let's play this Garrison Keillor clip because this is all up The news media wasn't, since they couldn't associate it with Trump. Damn, damn. They just gave it, they gave Garrison Keillor short sheeted by CBS. Folksy radio host Garrison Keillor was fired today for what Minnesota Public Radio calls inappropriate behavior. Keillor told the Minneapolis Star Tribune he had put his hand on a woman's bare back to console her. He said her shirt was open and his hand went up.

20:52 about six inches. She recoiled and he said he apologized. Keillor said the woman forgave him. We continued to be friendly, he said, right up until her lawyer called. Bull crap. Another really ugly looking guy. Well, Keillor, who is a very ugly looking guy, looks a little like Al Franken, I decided. Bookmark that. I need to talk about the similarities in appearance. Yeah. Now, Keillor is the big loss here. I mean, Charlie Rose is bad enough because his interview show is very popular amongst the liberal cognoscenti. But Keillor is on NPR, he has this show that he does, he's been doing it for 30 years. I've never heard of the show. His name is vaguely familiar to me, but I've never heard of it. If you were a liberals liberal...

21:49 in the Bay Area or any place else across the country, you would be listening to this show. It's like a live radio show, very old-fashioned, very good, well-produced show that is... You know, he's got guests on that sing and he's got, it's like, and it's in a big theater. It's almost like the 1920s, 19, or more like the mid 1930s type of radio show, variety show that's actually produced as a radio show. It's a fantastic show. And I think just, I don't know what you're going to do without this guy because he's, for all practical purposes, carried the show. It's like having the Jack Benny show without Jack Benny. And everywhere I'm hearing when people are talking about it, NPR, they say, no, no, no, no, no, it's not NPR. It's independently produced. You know, it's a it's not really an it's not part of NPR. They only air it. You know, it was really quick to say that. And please pay no attention to the news director who we fired.

CHAPTER 14 / 45 Discussion

Matt Lauer Termination and NBC Sexual Harassment Scandal

NBC News fired longtime Today Show host Matt Lauer following a detailed complaint of sexual misconduct in the workplace. The hosts analyze the public reaction, including the emotional on-air announcement by Savannah Guthrie and Hoda Kotb. They discuss rumors of Lauer's behavior dating back to the Sochi Olympics and speculate on whether NBC management was truly unaware of his conduct.

matt lauer· nbc· today show· sexual misconduct· andy lack· savannah guthrie

22:42 Yes, it's produced by Minnesota Public Radio and that they distributed themselves through one of the networks of distribution. There's a bunch of public radio having worked in it. It's not just NPR. NPR is a syndicate and the biggest one. It's not just a syndicate. It's a cabal. It's a cabal. So that came out and I thought that was the funniest of the group, but the big one, but we might as well start with Charlie Rose. I don't know if I have any Charlie Rose clips. You might. No, I you know, I don't really because it was just it was so shocking really Shocking and then it wasn't shocking because I remember you know, it's like I remember these guys I remember these douchebags from show business particularly but it's it's it's all surrounded around power at some kind of power position and

23:36 Well, his thing was he liked to walk around naked. Yeah. And so that's just Charlie that you see. He's been doing this for like 20 or 30 years. This is all coming down on these guys all at once. And they didn't expect it. And the big one, of course, that came out is Matt Lauer. And I've got a bunch of clips. Yeah, I got I got a couple of clips, too. Well, here's a creepy clip when he's with these with Anne Hathaway. This is Lauer with Hathaway. Oh wait, wait, let me set it up a little better. She was caught with an upskirt shot getting out of a car or something. Oh yeah, yeah, and then he made a comment about it. Yeah, he had to comment on it. Anne Hathaway, good morning. Good morning, Matt. Seen a lot of you lately. Sorry about that.

24:18 I'd be happy to stay home, but the film let's just get it out of the way had a little wardrobe malfunction The other night what's the lesson learned from something like that other than that you keep smiling? Which you always do now was that a complete beaver shot or was it a panties? I don't know. I don't remember, but he was all I can't I can't believe this escaped my attention. Yeah Yeah, well, well, but he's using you know what is the thing is from this? What did she learn from this is that night camera photo taken when she's getting up? Here's here's the thing you know when first of all this broke our entire model of hey You don't hear a lot of sexual harassment Charges against good-looking guys Matt Lauer arguably is a good-looking guy although. I'm not you know. I don't know I think he's a an acquired taste but he's definitely

25:08 You know, I mean here's my initial thought was wow the Clintons took him down You know, because he was, Hillary hates him. And he was droning on and on about the emails. Remember that town hall? And she got really pissed off. And then we had some, we had some information from, you know, background from people who were there. We had the entire transcript of how she was yelling at everybody and this Matt Lauer and F him. And it's like, she was really, really mad. And so I thought, well, maybe, maybe, you know, And it still could be true, but then when I saw the TMZ video, which I don't have any, it's hard to hear, where he's, you know, what happened was they cut to the affiliate break in the morning, it's about five minutes. And I think Kentucky, a station in Kentucky didn't cut to the local, you know, the local five minute news break. And so they just kept that on the air. And there's some staff, you know, like PA, production assistant,

26:07 is doing something just slightly off camera, the camera's focused on him and he has this douchebag look and he's one of these guys and he says, yeah, that's a nice looking sweater. Yeah, keep bending over like that. That's nice. I mean, it is a nice view. Nice view. And I'm like, oh my god, he's one of those guys. Yeah. And these guys really exist and... These are the same guys who at the stoplight will turn up their stereo to 10, you know, to impress the chick next to him in the car. These are douche... I gotta douche them. Douchebag! But this has been going on for a long time, so I still think it's possible that the Clintons were like, fuck it, let's get this guy. But wait, now, and we come back to my bookmark,

CHAPTER 15 / 45 Discussion

Media Industry Response to Matt Lauer Allegations

The fallout from Matt Lauer's firing continues as Variety and The New York Times report on multiple allegations of sexual misconduct. NBC News Chairman Andy Lack maintains that the recent complaint was the first filed against Lauer in 20 years, a claim the hosts find dubious. The discussion explores the "cultural change" in journalism as more women come forward with accusations against powerful media figures.

nbc news· variety· new york times· sexual harassment· andy lack· journalism

26:53 Best friends with Matt Lauer who was executive producer of the today show is Jeff Zucker and I look at those two guys They have the same look the same kind of you know bald head a little bit of fuzzy hair on top They you know they have a similar kind of look I'm thinking maybe this can go all the way to Zucker and CNN, but for sure be great. I mean for sure NBC is problematic. I got a clip here. Let me see. This is okay. Let me play this one first. NBC News spokesperson tonight says two more accusers have come forward since the news broke this morning and quote, we can say unequivocally that prior to Monday night, current NBC News management was never made aware of any complaints about Matt Lauer's conduct. We reached out to Matt Lauer tonight, Lester, and so far we've not heard back.

27:49 Alright Stephanie, we know you'll continue to... Yours is good. I think this is better to have sex with her David and Lindsay tonight NBC News out with a new statement Yes, they just released a statement out too long ago David saying that we can say unequivocally that prior to Monday night Current NBC News management was never made aware of any complaints about Matt Lauer's conduct David. Yeah Yeah, well, so we know that Andy lack who runs NBC. Yeah is I think that's his name He it's only been there for a year and a half

28:35 Well, you would have heard of that. Current NBC, well yeah, the guy just got there, he's not gonna... But you have to assume because of the way these things operate and nobody's stupid that everybody knew all about this all along. Yeah, they did and it's clear to me that this again points back to just a general theory. The New York Times and Vanity Fair were working together, and the way it sounds to me is like they got word that these articles were going to come out, and that's why NBC tried to get in front of it, as what Tina would say, get out in front of the news and say, oh, you know, we just found out this guy's a douchebag and we're firing him and...

29:14 So here's a work this about variety here unnamed women tell variety they were sexually harassed their accounts variety says Corroborated by friends or colleagues the magazine also reports that several women made complaints to executives at NBC which were ignored Yeah, now NBC. Yeah, we've had a lot of stuff going and their new news director I've lost count of how many people at NBC or douchebags and And you know, it's like pedophilia. They hire people who are like-minded. It may be a real, real horrible nest in there. Yeah, and you had Zucker.

29:54 That's what I'm saying as Zuckers now at CNN. You're gonna hire you're like your kind I mean, it's like this is a common thing in business is what you have to be careful You don't have these little empires going on underneath your your Management because you end up with these guys you hire their own you know you end up having a gay cabal or you have what happened? It was a lesbian cabal yes. Yeah, that was a that was a tough never gets talked about Here's the New York Times bit. about Lauer and alleged sexual misconduct with multiple women for weeks and months. The NBC News boss Andy Lack said that the complaint Monday to HR by a female NBC employee was the first lodged against Lauer since he started out at the Peacock Network more than two decades ago, but says the complaint was detailed and a clear violation of company standards.

30:49 The New York Post reports that the woman claimed that Lauer sexually assaulted her during the Sochi Olympics in 2014. A reporter for Variety tweeted today that she and a colleague had been working on a Matt Lauer story for months and that NBC was aware there are There are multiple women we've spoken to with far-ranging accusations against Lauer, the reporter wrote. The power of journalism has never been more evident with this cultural change. No word on if or when that story might be released, Shepard. And behind me, all these barricades being set up for the Rockefeller Center Christmas tree lighting, which is tonight, an event that Matt Lauer was supposed to be a part of.

CHAPTER 16 / 45 Discussion

Analysis of Today Show On-Air Reaction

The hosts deconstruct the emotional response of Matt Lauer's co-hosts during the announcement of his termination. They express skepticism regarding the "shock" displayed by Savannah Guthrie, arguing that in close-knit broadcasting environments, such behavior is rarely a secret. Adam Curry shares a personal anecdote about meeting Lauer in 2001, describing him as having an "icky" presence.

savannah guthrie· hoda kotb· today show· nbc· matt lauer· broadcasting

31:26 I have the complete report, this is the ABC version which I thought was the best overall. Then I want to play a couple of clips that show you Especially CBS. It's about Matt Lauer, but let's make it about Trump. It's great to have you with us here on a Wednesday night and for millions of Americans, it was a stunning headline to wake up to. Matt Lauer, the longtime host of the Today Show has been fired. His co-host Savannah Guthrie, her voice trembling, she learned just before the show. Lauer is accused of inappropriate sexual behavior and late today, new allegations now surfacing.

32:04 Off-camera, Guthrie and Hoda Kotb seen hugging. The close-knit team clearly shaken. And tonight as these new allegations now surface, NBC News out with a new statement. Did they know anything before the complaint this week? ABC's Lindsay Davis leading us off. Savannah Guthrie's voice trembling at the top of the Today Show. Good morning, breaking news overnight. Matt Lauer has been terminated from NBC News. And then her first moment on camera without Matt Lauer by her side. And good morning everybody, welcome to Today and hold us here with me at this morning because this is a sad morning here at Today and at NBC News. Just moments ago NBC News chairman Andy Lack sent the following

32:44 following note to our organization. In the email, Lack writes, Dear colleagues, on Monday night we received a detailed complaint from a colleague about inappropriate sexual behavior in the workplace by Matt Lauer. It represented, after serious review, a clear violation of our company's standards. As a result, we've decided to terminate his employment. While it is the first complaint about his behavior in the over 20 years he's been at NBC News, we were also presented with reason to believe this may not have been an isolated incident. We just learned this moments ago, just this morning. As I'm sure you can imagine, we are devastated and we are still processing all of this. And I will tell you right now, we do not know more than what I just shared with you. I'm sure we will be learning more details in the hours and days to come.

33:30 And we promise we will share that with you. And Hoda, I mean, you know, for the moment all we can say is that we are heartbroken. I'm heartbroken for Matt. He is my dear, dear friend and my partner. And he is being loved by many, many people here. And I'm heartbroken for the brave colleague who came forward to tell her story and any other women who have their own stories to tell. And we are grappling with a dilemma that so many people have faced these past few weeks. How do you reconcile your love for someone with the revelation that they have behaved badly?

34:07 I love there, you know and the fact that she kind of was shocked and stunned and it's a sad day when it should be a happy day to get rid of guys like this. Yeah. I don't believe a word of it. I think she was either involved with this guy at some point or something else because unless she's an idiot, you know worked in broadcasting environments. I think you nailed it. You work in broadcasting environments, unless you're completely above it all and you hate the crew and everybody else in between, they talk. They talk to each other. It's like a farming community. You know everybody's business. So this was just like, what? But apparently, the main infraction was rape in Sochi. Yeah. Yeah. And there's some... Well, look.

35:00 Yeah, get rid of him. I always thought he was a douchebag. Remember I spent some time in an airport with him back in 2001. Oh, what happened? You just tried to... Well, because he had done stuff at VH1 before he got the Today Show gig, so I'd seen him, you know, but I had upper hand. Like, I'm MTV. Oh, hey, VH1 boy, how you doing? And actually, no, it was when the... It was before he started Today Show. It was, I think... 92. Maybe the Iraq War? Could be anyway, so we were watching TV in a bar in an airport and flights were delayed, and I just thought we have you're icky Icky, that's what I thought it was icky. Yeah, that's whatever it doesn't matter, but holy moly It's very this is great for women. I'm trying to understand how they feel about it and what they want to do Which there doesn't seem to be anyone you know okay? We're gonna get the douchebags out. You know I think women are

CHAPTER 17 / 45 Discussion

CBS Coverage Linking Matt Lauer to Donald Trump

CBS News is criticized for framing the Matt Lauer scandal around President Donald Trump's past controversies. The network highlighted Trump's tweets regarding Lauer's firing while simultaneously revisiting the Access Hollywood tape and allegations from Summer Zervos. The hosts argue that the media is using the Lauer story to maintain pressure on the President regarding his own history with women.

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36:01 How would I hear someone say yes, we're renegotiating the social contract between men and women now I think we're just weeding out the douchebags is what we're doing. Let's hope but it's not here's what that's right. Yes CBS of course can't really do a story for some reason they really took every mention of any of these stories They had to bring it back to Trump well Well, yeah, why let a good scandal go to waste? So they have, so imagine having that same report you just heard and then I'm gonna, then you tack it, this is what you tack on the end of it. What? Making Matt Lauer about Trump. Ah, got it. Legacy is cooked.

36:43 NBC News Chairman Andy Lack said this was the first complaint about Lauer's behavior in over 20 years at the company. Anthony? Bianna, thank you. One of the first comments on the Lauer story came from the White House. Margaret Brennan is there. You're with me this morning because this is a sad morning here at Today and at NBC News. The president's response came just 15 minutes after NBC's stunning announcement. Wow, Mr. Trump tweeted, Matt Lauer was just fired from NBC for inappropriate sexual behavior in the workplace. What the president didn't mention was that more than a dozen women have accused him of sexual misconduct. Last October in the final weeks of the presidential campaign, Summer Zervos claimed she had repeatedly been harassed by Mr. Trump in 2007. She was a contestant on his NBC show The Apprentice.

37:37 I pushed his chest to put space between us and I said, come on man, get real. Earlier this fall, Zervos' attorney served Mr. Trump a subpoena to preserve all documents concerning any accusations that were made during the campaign, that he subjected any woman to unwanted sexual touching and or sexually inappropriate behavior. The president's lawyers fought the request. Throughout the campaign, then-candidate Trump dismissed the allegations. The events never happened. Never. All of these liars will be sued after the election is over. But Mr. Trump has not followed through on that threat. And one of his accusers told us that she never believed he would sue.

38:18 White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders in late October. Is the official White House position that all these women are lying? Yeah, we've been clear on that from the beginning and the president's spoken on it. You can do anything. Whatever you want. Grab them by the... The president may also be trying to distance himself from the infamous Access Hollywood tape. One Republican ally says the president has privately cast doubt on whether it was his voice on the NBC recording, even though he publicly apologized for it. Now the White House said the president's view on that tape has not changed, but one Republican source said the president often creates his own reality. Yes, the alternate reality. It goes on like this, but I think it's going to backfire because the more they play that tape,

39:08 And everybody played it because it has something to do with Matt Lauer? No, because they wanted to play it. You keep hearing Trump never saying he ever did anything. He says you can. No, in fact, for our liar-in-chief, he is telling an absolute truth because what he said was when you're a star, Then women will let you do anything. You can grab him by the pussy if you want. Not saying he did it, I bet he did. But yes, and that's exactly what we see with these douchebags in media. You know, it starts, oh, star power, and you can kind of do anything, and then, you know, Matt Lauer took it too far, clearly. So the president was telling the truth for a change.

CHAPTER 18 / 45 Discussion

John Conyers Sexual Misconduct Allegations and Congressional Response

Representative John Conyers faces allegations of sexual misconduct, including claims that he propositioned staffers and used government funds for settlements. The House of Representatives voted to require anti-harassment training for members in response to the scandal. The hosts discuss the "twofer" of political and entertainment figures being outed and speculate on the possibility of future career comebacks for those involved.

john conyers· congress· sexual harassment· paul ryan· ethics· settlements

39:53 Well, anyway, so this whole thing is, you know, it kind of, it's interesting how they, because they still have the Conyers thing. In fact, here's another example. This is CBS again. They got the John Conyers, that old fart that's from Michigan that is, you know, apparently walks around half naked in his office and he's grabbing tit and pinching ass and doing all the rest of it. And by the way, Katie Couric was caught on some talk show saying that Matt Lauer used to pinch her in the ass all the time. But here again, CBS, the CBS, making conures about Trump. This is great. Now to the sexual misconduct allegations that have shaken Congress with the Dean of the House, its longest serving member, among the accused. Here's Chief Congressional Correspondent Nancy Cordes.

40:43 Democrat John Conyers was holed up in Detroit today after leaving D.C. in the middle of the work week. He is at home with his family. They are discussing the allocations. Colleagues of Conyers in the Congressional Black Caucus say it's not their place to urge the veteran lawmaker to resign over claims that he propositioned staffers. We think that is a decision for he and his family and his constituents. to make. The House did vote today to belatedly require anti-harassment training for members and their aides. And the resolution is agreed to. There's also a bipartisan push to prevent lawmakers from using government funds to settle with accusers as Conyers did. Florida Republican Ron DeSantis. If you're somebody is in power you can misbehave

41:35 The taxpayer will bail you out. House Speaker Paul Ryan said even he isn't informed when members pay off victims. Does leading by example on sexual harassment mean Congress should say more about the women who accused President Trump of misconduct? Right now we're focused on making sure this place works the right way. Yeah, they're not really focused on that. We need more show business people to be outed so that they can just carry on as normal. I was thinking about that. Seriously. If you get enough of it, you're right. If you get enough of them outed, then it's like, oh, well, I guess that's the way everybody's that way in show business and we can, you know, go back to get our jobs back. Go back, watch Kevin Spacey. Oh, I'm telling you within five years, everybody who has now been scandalized can be back on the air.

CHAPTER 19 / 45 Discussion

Norman Pattis and Heather McDonald Harassment Incident

Norman Pattis, a prominent radio executive and UC Regent, is under fire for making inappropriate comments to podcaster Heather McDonald during a recording session. Audio from McDonald's "Juicy Scoop" podcast captures Pattis joking about holding her breasts while she recorded an advertisement for a bra. The hosts discuss Pattis's history in the radio industry and the subsequent protests by UC Berkeley students.

norman pattis· heather mcdonald· podcast one· westwood one· sexual harassment

42:30 Maybe not in the same position, but they can be working again. America loves a comeback story. I'm sorry, man. I'm a douche. Yeah, they do. And I think these guys are good actors. The better actors like Spacey will pull it off. Yes. He's a good actor. He knows what he's doing. There's a real twofer now in this whole scenario. The twofer is Norm Pattis, who I know personally. And Norm Pattis, I know from the radio business. You may know him as the regent, or is it a regent or the regent? I don't know. From the University of California school system. And he's in trouble now. Teresa Watanabe, were you there on Wednesday when a band of UC Berkeley students showed up to protest?

43:22 Regent Norman Pattis and demand his resignation. Can you tell us what that was like? Yes, I was there. There were four women, four Berkeley students, who got up and they demanded that the Regent Pattis resign for his actions involving a—it wasn't a staff member, it was actually a podcaster, Heather McDonald. who was doing an ad for a... I mean, really, if you're gonna harass... I mean, you really gotta go that low on the showbiz rung? I mean, you can't get anything better than a podcaster, Norm Pattis, 100 millionaire. Seriously. Who is the name of the... Don't worry, I got a clip, don't worry. Okay, good. A podcaster, Heather McDonald, who...

44:08 who was doing an ad for a memory foam bra, and Regent Paddis went into the broadcast room and joked that, you know, basically, can I hold your breasts? Anyway, he apologized at that time. The regent subsequently adopted a policy on regential misconduct, allowing them to sanction regents who they believe engage in inappropriate behavior. Okay, so of course I have the recording because she was recording a promo nor now norm Padis He sold I want to say Westwood one the yes West Westwood one huge very very very successful radio syndication company used to own but they might even own some stations at some point and

44:58 And he's, I think, maybe also ran SiriusXM for a while. I mean, the guy is just super famous in the radio business. And he started, that's where I know him from, from Z100 in New York. You know, he's a pompous asshole, but that's, you know, hey, he's big. He's in the radio business. Yeah, exactly. Hey man, hey man, hey man. He also started podcast one which is this bullshit app with you know all kinds of bull crap right right right we talked about on the show oh yeah it's like oh yeah we're gonna get advertised he's trying to replicate the radio model and we know the network can't be monetized so here he is walking in on Heather McDonald her show is called juicy scoop

45:42 Her podcast, Juicy Scoop. You can just imagine that the guy who goes down the list like, ah, Juicy Scoop, yeah. Let me see what she looks like. Have you looked at her, Heather MacDonald? No. Should I? Yeah, I think we should. I haven't looked at her actually, let's see. Let's see what kind of gal, oh yes. Oh, this is, I know her, she was on Chelsea Handler's show. I don't know if you want to admit it. Yeah, no, so she's a comedian. Oh, she's a comedian. She should have thought that was funny. Well here we go and one day I was there and I was at the end of my podcast I was doing all my ads and because you know I'm a millionaire for my podcasts I see him walk into the booth and I'm like and I say hey I want to talk to you, but I lied and I said I have to go to a meeting now She she said she lied that means that she was already on

46:38 Uncomfortable with his presence to go to a meeting and Then he comes into the room where I'm taping and I go well. I've got one more ad to do Let me just get through it and and I start to do the ad and this is what happened I can't do I don't have any time hi. No. I'm just about doing my last dad my last dad Hold on You're doing good. Oh, thank you. You're doing good, baby. You're doing good. He should be saying you're doing well. You're doing good. This guy's a regent at University of California and he says you're doing good? Holy mackerel.

CHAPTER 20 / 45 Discussion

Radio Industry Culture and "It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World"

The Norman Pattis incident serves as a springboard for a discussion on the "douchebag" culture of traditional radio. The hosts play a clip from the film "It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World" to illustrate the historical American preoccupation with female anatomy in advertising and culture. They argue that the radio business has long been dominated by such infantile attitudes.

radio industry· podcasting· advertising· gender dynamics· cinema

47:25 You're doing good. Hey, I'm known patas. I can do whatever the hell. I want to do you doing good. You're doing good Well, thank you Numbers are going up nicely your numbers are going up nicely Does that sound like Ron bloom or what like your numbers are going up the audience is expanding. I love Ron I'm just that's exactly what he does. Oh, he doesn't listen to the show someone will Uh, yeah, your numbers are up. What kind of bull? This bull bull bull. Thank you. Numbers are going up nicely. OK, we're getting more interest in the show. OK, well stop a second.

48:02 But let's at least give us a little background. What is this show? Is this a University of California show? No. Is this one of his Podcast One shows? Yeah, this is a Podcast One show called The Juicy Scoop. I have no idea what the numbers are on any of these shows. No, you can't measure it properly. There's no way to do it. But I like the one where there's a lot of interest, like meaning advert, yeah, there's a lot of interest for your show. A lot of interest. But meanwhile, what she's getting is bra ads, you see? So she this is it's already offensive. I got her picture up. She is. I don't know want to generalize like this, but she's the dime a dozen radio girl in a zoo show. Yeah, she's the pictures even like a zoo girl. Yeah. Hey, everybody. Good morning. WTCZ 100. Heather McDonald with you. Yeah, we've got a cold morning. Cold start. Hey, Scott, what's going on in entertainment?

48:54 Pretty much that's pretty much her and so here he is saying yeah, this interview. It's really it's offensive That you know the only ad she got because yeah podcast one such a smart idea I got it. We got a girl who likes to show her boobs. I bet you we can get some bra ads All right, let me just do this really quick um You guys, I love 3rd Love's 24 slash 7 t-shirt bra because it's the most comfortable bra that I've ever owned. And it's just super smoothing and it's invisible under every outfit, which... John, just so you know, it's super smoothie.

49:42 I'm going to Let me just you making me nervous now, okay? I mean he's standing there like a dick and yeah That's the worst by the way when your boss is there trying to be professional and you're reading a boob ad and You make him angry. This is you should ask him to leave the room so she constantly should have left He should have not he should have gone away. Yeah. He knows better. Yeah, that's horrible. You're making me nervous now, okay? Let me do one more

50:29 Wait a minute. Yeah. Can I hold your breasts? No. Would that help? No. Okay. Use memory foam. Use memory foam hands. My memory? Yeah. Anyway, we're done. Okay, alright. Douchebag. Typical radio douchebag. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't see anything unusual there. No. It did- it does give me a reason to play a classic movie clip. Okay, yes, I brought a classic movie clip to the show today. Oh, yes Okay, and this is it's a mad mad world As far as I can see American men have been totally emasculated. They're like slaves. They die like flies from coronary thrombosis and this positively infantile preoccupation with bosoms All my time in this wretched godforsaken country the one thing that has appalled me most of all is this preposterous preoccupation with bosoms Don't you realize that they've become the dominant theme in American culture in literature, advertising, in all fields of entertainment, in everything

CHAPTER 21 / 45 Discussion

One America News Report on Roy Moore Accusers

One America News (OAN) released a report questioning the motivations of Judge Roy Moore's accusers, specifically former police officer Faye Gary. The report alleges Gary has personal ties to the drug trade and a vendetta against Moore for prosecuting her family members. Additionally, OAN highlights a connection between an accuser's relative and a longtime editor at the Washington Post.

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51:31 I'll wager you anything you like if American women stopped wearing brassieres your whole national economy would collapse overnight Word so true there you go Did you just see that movie or where'd you know someone said one of our producers? I mean the cloud I thought it was good, then I have Just one more tie-in to all of this Unless you have something else then no, I'm pretty good. Okay. Well. I'm gonna wrap it up with more and Why is this not loading up hello? Uh, load. New information is coming to light regarding Judge Roy Moore's accusers and throws suspicion on their motivations for accusing him. Former Alabama police officer Faye Gary previously came forward claiming she was told to be on the lookout for Judge Moore at school games. In her story, Gary claims Moore was known to harass the cheerleaders at sporting events and even targeted female employees at the Gadsden Mall. By the way, this is from One America News.

52:35 Which is an odd channel. I think we've talked about it. It's an odd channel, but they do come up with some interesting reporting. Their personalities are kind of, you know, iffy. Anyway. Our own research revealed no truth behind the claims against Moore at the mall. In fact, when we spoke to mall employees, no one there even knew anything about it. But new evidence has emerged and suggests that Fay Gary has a personal axe to grind with Roy Moore. While Gary claims to have been a police officer in the city of Gadsden, she also has a number of close ties to the underground world of the illicit drug business. One American News researched the case and found that in 2008, her son Cordarrel Gary was arrested for distributing drugs. But before he could ever make it to trial, he was shot and killed.

53:25 Her other son, Tracy Jones, is now in a federal prison for distributing cocaine. And while Gary was supposedly working for law enforcement, those who knew her say they had to keep a tight lip when she was around. Apparently, Gary was well known for leaking information about police and drug enforcement activities to her drug dealing family. Matters get even more personal when her brother, Jimmy Wright, comes into the picture. Wright was also big in the drug business and was arrested for distributing controlled substances back in 1981. The prosecutor for that case? Roy Moore. Not only that, but Moore would go on to make another potentially powerful enemy out of Richard Hagdorn, a criminal and convicted drug dealer who was caught with over two pounds of cocaine.

54:10 When Hagdorn got out of prison, he came before Judge Moore on contempt charges because he owed back alimony and child support. Judge Moore ruled against him on May 18, 1994 for contempt. Hagdorn was fined $50,000 and is still paying back alimony and child support to this day. But more interesting than his convictions are his relations. Richard's brother is none other than David Hagdorn, a longtime editor for the Washington Post. The same post that broke the story about Moore's alleged involvement with underage girls nearly 40 years ago. There you go.

CHAPTER 22 / 45 Discussion

No Agenda Show Format and Art Generator

The hosts discuss the internal mechanics of the No Agenda show, including the "X series" of best-of episodes. They acknowledge a lapse in the show's traditional format due to their vacation and encourage listeners to contribute artwork via the No Agenda Art Generator. The discussion emphasizes the "onion-like" complexity of the show's long-form deconstruction.

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54:49 Well, what are you gonna do? That's some interesting connections. Yeah, that was pretty well done. Yeah, and uh... Good find. But that's, you know, this is Rinky Dink Cable News Network, and I'm surprised that no one else is, even Fox, you know, where are they? Shouldn't they be latching onto this story? Oh, it's so bogus. Folks, Fox doesn't care. No, I think you're right. I don't trust anything. I'm sorry. What were you gonna say? No, no, go ahead. I don't trust anything that comes from the Washington Post. Well, it's hard to. But, you know, Jeff Bezos, he's the man, so how can we argue with that? Oh, fuck. I'm gonna show my son the world by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fabulous. Oh my. Well, to continue our policy of being the show from hell... That's what this one is. I stupidly closed the spreadsheet and I don't know why or when it just disappeared.

55:51 Oh, it's gone? I can start while you figure that out if you want. Yeah, go ahead. Okay. We have a few people to thank. Yes, we do. And, uh, but actually, I've done everything wrong now. I was supposed to say, uh, John C. Dvorak, I was supposed to thank everybody. Oh yeah, you didn't do that. You left out the fake intro. This is what happens. We go, you know, we take two shows off and the format is blown. It's completely ruined. I can't drive the train. Well, let me say in the morning to you, John C. where the C stands for cluster F Dvorak Well in the morning to you Mr. Adam Curry and in the morning I serve as the seat boots on the ground feeding the air, something about all the people in Great Britain. I'm John C. Dvorak and uh the dames and the knights, thank you. In the morning to everybody in the troll room, thank you all for showing up, noagendastream.com and now I can't remember offhand who the previous two artists were for the artwork for our best of show which again we want to thank

56:52 Sir Ramsey Cain, yes. People loved that show. Yeah, I know. I loved it too. They liked the Ramsey Cain one, but when I was at the meetup, because the show had played before the meetup, they were talking about what a great show it was. They said, thank you guys for doing that. The Show X, you mean? Yeah, Show X. They love Show X. Yeah, Tina listened to it. She's like, wow, I learned a lot of things. So I guess what happened was, this was kind of a joint idea, but I can credit it to you for confirming my thoughts on this, which is we were doing these shows, these X series, the 200 series, and we kept just overlaying more new stuff and taking some stuff, actually not taking anything out, just adding to it. It was about three hours. And somebody says, it's like an onion, you know, I can't follow it.

57:44 And so you said, I was thinking it but you said it. Let's do the whole show. Let's do a new one. And in fact, I realized it was probably saved me an hour or two of editing. Yeah, because you did all that. Yeah, so I worked out all right. Do you have your spreadsheet by now? Oh and so now also Yes, no agenda art generator generator calm. That's we can go to Share your art love with us, and we need to you know then we take two shows off And there's almost no art. There's no art for the pre stream everything's breaking down. It's like crazy We got to get by get a groove back

CHAPTER 23 / 45 Discussion

Black Pete Tradition and Dutch Cultural Controversy

The Dutch tradition of Black Pete (Zwarte Piet) is discussed following reports of a Canadian shop canceling its Sinterklaas celebration due to racism concerns. Adam Curry explains the historical context of the character as a Moorish helper to Saint Nicholas, while acknowledging the controversy surrounding the use of blackface. The hosts play a clip of a Dutch-Canadian woman defending the tradition as non-discriminatory.

black pete· zwarte piet· netherlands· sinterklaas· racism· tradition

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1:05:54 I know a lot of people are saving up for show 1000 though. I have a feeling they are. Yes, yeah, you know I think it's now become a thing where let's see how long we can make Adam and John do this. Ah, that'd be funny. Let's all team up. See, this is the only weakness in our model. With the advertising model, you boycott the advertisers, you shame the advertisers, you can get someone off the air easily. Easily. It's the third rail of mainstream media. This, they can just wear us down to the bone.

1:06:32 Yeah, well, and we just died a show proves that Now, please think about supporting us for our show coming up on Sunday. You can do that at vorac.org slash We were someone someone about black Pete in the

1:07:15 in the donation segment there? Yeah, Black Pete, the white knight of Cambridge. Yeah, so I'd like to play this clip for you. This is a... I think it is Black Pete related. It is Black Pete related. For those who don't know, Black Pete is the Yeah, he's the St. Nicholas' helper. This is a Dutch custom and for several hundred years he's been coming in his steamboat around December 1st because on December 5th he and his black peats, he has a white horse, they gallop around on the rooftop, sound familiar? But the black peats, they go down the chimney and you know if... So they're covered with soot and thus they're black. No, that's not at all why they're black.

1:08:00 They were Moors. This is supposedly a real guy, you know, St. Nicholas, and he helped the Moors. And so these were Moors and they were really dark black. And that's the true reason behind it, because it's a historical, fictional kind of celebration. But don't the Dutch wear blackface? Well, yes, the Dutch wear blackface, but in the context of the Dutch, it has nothing to do with blackface as we know it here as a racist... So it's got nothing to do with minstrel shows. Nothing to do with minstrel shows whatsoever. By the way, blacks wore blackface in minstrel shows. That's how it started. Crazy. So in Candanavia, there's, as you can imagine, there's Dutch shops. And this is a Dutch shop who have had to cancel their traditional Sinterklaas and Black Pete celebration at the store.

1:08:51 Because everyone's aware of it now and it's all racist. What's this racist stuff going on? And I really like it when there's Dutch people speaking English, especially with Canadian accents. It's great. It's not racist. Roger Pete as a boy was a Moor from Spain. And they were dark-skinned. And Saint Nicholas took him in and took care of them. And they're not handled as slaves. They are his helpers. And I'm very upset. Why? They will disturb this children's tradition for so many years. He will disturb this children's tradition for so many years. You got a Yiddish accent in there. Well, that is a little bit of it.

1:09:31 But she's very disturbed by it all. For so many years it has been going on. I mean, I was brought up with Sinterklaas and Zwarte Piet. And that was fantastic. And now they're trying to... I was brought up with it. It was fantastic with the black face. What's your problem? And that was fantastic. And now they're trying to get away with this? It's unbelievable. Can you see why, from the outside, when you look at that? No, they cannot see this. Because they see it as black people, as discrimination. But it's not discrimination. It's not discrimination, I tell you. I love the Dutch.

CHAPTER 24 / 45 Discussion

Justin Trudeau's Apology for the Canadian "Gay Purge"

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau issued a formal apology and announced $110 million in compensation for victims of the "Gay Purge." This decades-long government policy targeted LGBTQ2 individuals in the military and public service, often leading to dismissals and criminal charges. The hosts discuss the historical justification of "character weakness" used by the government to justify the oppression.

justin trudeau· canada· gay purge· lgbtq2· apology· reparations

1:10:11 Hello? This is part of the EU homogenization process. Oh yes, and there's big stuff going on in in Candanavia. You know they're trying to introduce this anti-discrimination bill? Yeah. What's it called again? I forget what it's called. I don't remember. It's like a big one. Yeah, it's a whopper. Yeah, and it'd be pretty much illegal to say anything like, hey you fag, you know, you're gonna go to jail. Yeah, I mean that's really the way I'm just paraphrasing it But that's kind of the way it feels and that's the way I hear people talking about it and so Trudeau I've got a multi clip the very short clips of multi Multi bit here which much Oh Haley sent a which is really appreciated because he sat through all this and I mean this is this the Trudeau is now the top dog number one social justice warrior in the new world order and

1:11:06 He's really all over it. So apparently there was a number one guy. Yeah, apparently there was something called the purge back in the 50s or the 60s and They were trying to get gays out of just out of sight in Canada. Don't know this. Yeah, you should look it up look up the purge gay purge and He was a part of the introduction of this bill. He's bringing back this history and apologizing. criminalization and violence against the lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, and two-spirit communities. Two-spirit! Were they rousting the two-spirits? Yeah, hey, they killed Tupac too, you know, it's like two-spirits, gung.

1:12:05 And they forgot intersex, which is the New World Order term. It's supposed to be... G-B-L-G-B-T-I. We know this. This is what the United Nations has determined. Any deviation from that is racist. Do intersex have to do with bestiality? I hope so. Did you look it up the purge? I'm looking yeah, apparently this is a good one Canada is now gonna offer 85 million dollars to victims of its gay purge now tell us give us the background on the purge I'm sure there's a wiki page. I mean we can probably So that it won't be any good information, but let me start reading it

1:12:49 The Canadian government pay up to 110 million Canadian dollars or 85 million US dollars to compensate victims of the so-called gay purge. Don't be laughing about their dollar rates, that's not nice. Decades of government authorized discrimination against gay Canadians. The announcement on Tuesday followed a speech in the house by Trudeau who apologized to the victims. The government program which lasted for more than 30 years and ended only in the 1990s, caused thousands to lose their jobs and sometimes face prosecution because of their sexual orientation. The policy affected Canadians in the military, the public services, and the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. The government also introduced legislation to expunge unjust convictions.

1:13:42 Wow. So who are they going to give this money to? To descendants of? Or, maybe these people are still around? They must be pretty old. I guess there's some still around because it just ended in the 1990s. Wow. Alright, here's the timeline of what happened. From the 1950s to the early 1990s, the government of Canada exercised its authority in a cruel and unjust manner, undertaking a campaign of oppression against members and suspected members. of the LGBTQ2 community. The goal was to identify these workers throughout the public service, including the Foreign Service, the military, and the RCMP, and persecute them. You see, the thinking of the day was that all non-heterosexual Canadians would automatically be at increased risk of blackmail by our adversaries due to what was called character weakness.

CHAPTER 25 / 45 Discussion

The "Fruit Machine" and Two-Spirit Identity

During his apology, Prime Minister Trudeau referenced the "fruit machine," a failed 1950s technology intended to detect homosexual attraction through pupil dilation and other physiological responses. The hosts also explore the term "two-spirit," an indigenous Canadian identity for individuals possessing both masculine and feminine spirits. They mock the historical absurdity of the government's attempts to scientifically identify sexual orientation.

fruit machine· two-spirit· canada· gaydar· technology· indigenous

1:14:43 This thinking was prejudiced and flawed. Sadly, what resulted is nothing short of a witch hunt. Bad, Candanavians. Very bad. Yeah. Uh, so I just had to look it up. Two-spirit, if you're two-spirit, refers to- Is it T-U? T-W-O. refers to refers to a person who has both a masculine and feminine spirit co-figure and is used by some First Nations people is that engines to describe their sexual gender and or spiritual identity? It's about the fifth thing you said that would have gotten us fired. I know I love it I'm enjoying my job so much if only you get Norm Pattis to harass this podcaster You can hold you can cut my breasts just pay me

1:15:39 So there you go to spit that's I mean that seems like a do they have a large indigenous First Nations peoples community I don't want to get fired now. I'm now you got me all conscious Do they have a big two-spirit community in Canada? I don't know sounds like a scam all right, so they were they were so into this the Canadians at the time they had gaydar a real gaydar and The public service, the military, and the RCMP spied on their own people inside and outside of workplaces.

1:16:18 During this time the federal government even dedicated funding to an absurd device known as the fruit machine a failed technology that was supposed to measure homosexual attraction I mean I will pay good money for one of these devices I want me a machine by the way at the end of this clip of the day no doubt about it I'm gonna take it right now Anything that talks about the fruit machine is over the deck. I mean What is this box? I need I need to see what this is this sounds fabulous the fruit machine failed technology Oh, yeah, and interesting that we have Google images or what was that? What was that AI deep learning project or so this guy's gay this guy's gay We actually have that technology now

1:17:10 Remember that from the yeah, yeah, okay, all right, so he's apologizing it is for him and sorrow and deep Regret for the things we have done that I stand here today and say we were wrong We apologize. I am sorry we are Sorry, we are sorry I mean, what was coming down on him that he had to go through such great lengths to apologize for this? Did some pressure group say, we're really going to nail it to you? Bunch of gay haters. What was going on? Well, he's gay. Okay. So one thing for sure, they don't set it up the way politicians in the lower half of North America do. You know, we got shielded. Well, I think it's a pretty generous offer by the Canadians. What?

CHAPTER 26 / 45 Discussion

Analysis of Trudeau's Public Speaking and Austin Homelessness

The hosts critique Justin Trudeau's stage presence during his apology, noting the lack of audience response during "applause moments." The conversation shifts to the growing homelessness crisis in downtown Austin, Texas. They describe the city's sidewalks as being occupied by "toll trolls" and criticize local government priorities for being out of touch with the reality of urban poverty.

justin trudeau· public speaking· austin· homelessness· social justice

1:18:13 to just throw away a hundred to ten million Canadian dollars that the to make up for this you know the screw job. I have to people probably committed suicide who knows I don't know the story of this I didn't never heard of this. I hadn't heard of it either but so here's the problem maybe none of no one in the audience even heard of this because you know when you're doing this kind of speech they're up for what we call applause moments right Yeah. You want to just, and you pause, and then sometimes people who don't have the right stage presence will say, well that was an applause moment. Because no one clapped. Yeah. So that's an applause moment. Please clap. Please clap. Yes, Jeb Bush applause moment. Thank you. To those who wanted to serve but never got the chance because of who you are. You should have been permitted to serve your country. You were stripped of that option. We are sorry. We were wrong.

1:19:08 Wow! How about that? The one gay guy in the back. Let's hear that again. You were stripped of that option. We are sorry. We were wrong. The Curry Dvorak Consulting Group remains available for any politician who wants to have a successful media event. Because he's got the money, he's got a big bag of dough. He's got, you know, he's gay, as you said. So, you know, they tossed out the gaydar.

1:19:46 And he's apologizing. You need a whoop! They need something. They need shills. You know, there's nothing wrong... For people to do expensive public speaking and you really want to manipulate things, you have to have shills. Yes. You have about a four... Well, you don't need that many. You can usually do a ten. But you have about ten or maybe more people in the audience that you brought in and they start clapping at certain key spots and one of them maybe go whoop whoop whoop! Or yeah, whoo! Or something. And... And they start all clapping, maybe they can jump to their feet if they're all in the front. You can maybe set off a standing O, it's possible. Yeah, or the wave. The wave, yeah. But if you're just going to have one lone guy back there in the back, you know.

1:20:35 So wrong, so wrong. Okay, I have a couple more just errant clips from this, although I don't know if any is funny. You asked about intersex. I want to have a t-shirt that says, Intersectional Other. Yeah, you need that. Especially in Austin. Tina and I were talking last night, we'll get to this later in the show, the homeless problem is growing with leaps and bounds here in downtown Austin. Yeah, yeah. Full employment. Leaps and bounds. And the things that the city is concerned with compared to the homeless people who are homeless, it's off kilter.

1:21:31 Yeah, I feel like if it gets much you can't just walk to the store without people at begging and if it's not the damn students, you know shilling for Save the children planned parenthood, etc Which they know nothing about because it's just hired to do to hold up an iPad and the homeless It's not even fun to walk around anymore. No, you can't you have to pay tolls. Oh In fact, it's almost impossible in some areas. It's tolls. You're exactly right. Hey, you want to pass by this part of the sidewalk? You gotta pay me. You gotta pay the toll. Troll? Yeah. Toll trolls. Here we go. That's a good one. Well, they used to have those guys in the Middle Ages. They'd be standing in some little pathway where you had to go to get through to the other side. You had to go through past this guy. It was a toll gate. Isn't that what trolls did? Didn't they sit under the bridge and you had to pay the troll?

CHAPTER 27 / 45 Discussion

Numerology in Trudeau's Speech and "666" Reference

A segment of Justin Trudeau's speech mentioning the ages "6, 16, or 60" is analyzed for potential numerological significance. The hosts jokingly suggest the repetition of the number six points to the "Antichrist" or the "Beast." They use this to highlight what they perceive as the performative and potentially scripted nature of modern political rhetoric.

numerology· justin trudeau· 666· antichrist· symbolism

1:22:23 Or maybe troll to cross the bridge. I thought something like that Alright, what action will be taken by Mr. Trudeau and his government? The purge. Purge. Q2. Okay, well, thank you very much now. I'm in a numerology and We always pay attention to numerology certainly if there's a three in it 333 is a good number But I don't know what's going on with this, but it was an interesting sequence And maybe we can decode it the kids who are listening at home and who fear rejection because of their sexual orientation or their gender identity and expression

1:23:22 that to those who are nervous and scared but also excited about what their future might hold. We are all worthy of love and deserving of respect. And whether you discover your truth at 6, at 16, or at 60, who you are is valid. 6, 16, or 60. Yeah. That's odd. Have you ever heard that sequence? Nope. I mean, it'd be from kids from 9 to 92 as the song goes, Milton Bradley games 3 to 300, you know, that kind of stuff. Yeah. But it was just like a whole bunch of sixes. Yeah. And that's always concerning. What was the total number of sixes? If you just took the sixes out, what would you have? Six, six, six. Whoa. The beast. Yes.

1:24:21 Wow, what's up with that? I think there's something I think it's pretty self. It's pretty self-evident Okay, I'm listening Trudeau is the is the Antichrist nice. That's right. We thought it was Obama That was just racist thinking. It's the white Obama who's the anti-christ. What's wrong with us? 666 as you said it right there. Let's wrap it up. Boom count one. To the trailblazers who have lived and struggled and to those who have fought so hard to get us to this place

1:25:03 Thank you for your courage. Thank you for lending your voices I hope and I know that you look back on all you have done with pride I just had to do that for the ISO. Thank you for your courage nice Exactly. Thank you for your courage. I know we scored the no agenda shows for your courage nice, so Kind of wacky just putting that all together. You know the fruit machine the 666. What is he trying to say? I don't know, but if I was a Canadian I'd move out of the United States. I'm homeless. You're right. Please you're welcome here. Come on in not a problem

CHAPTER 28 / 45 Discussion

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle Engagement as "Spook" Operation

The engagement of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle is framed by the hosts as a potential joint operation between the CIA and MI6. They examine Markle's background in international studies and her work with the United Nations as evidence of her being a "spook." The discussion covers their first dates in London and a camping trip to Botswana, while questioning the identity of the "mutual friend" who introduced them.

prince harry· meghan markle· royal family· cia· mi6· botswana

1:25:49 So if you heard that I've got to do it to change the topic If you heard that somebody was like a graduate in international studies Studies lived in Los Angeles and young young young woman International Studies lived in Los Angeles, Toronto interned in Argentina Is a member of the United Nations entity for gender equality empowerment of women as an advocate works Buzzkill jr's wife No, no, she's into making cheese and chocolate. Cheese, I tell you. She's not a graduate of international studies. One Young World, the annual summit in Dublin, big speaker there, kind of gets around. One Young World Summit in Iowa. Is there any possibility that that would be a spook?

1:26:48 I would say, hmm, let me think. Yes. Is there a clip associated with this? Yeah, there's a clip and it has a lot to do with, that's a description of Meghan Markle. Who's now gonna marry Prince Harry. Ah, thank you. Now I know where you're going. Okay. Now I'm looking at this as a joint venture between the CIA and MI6. This is big. So let's listen to the two of them talk about their love for each other in this clip. Meg and Harry. Is this Meg and Harry top news? Yep. Okay.

1:27:33 A few weeks ago, earlier this month here at our cottage. Just a standard typical night for us. It's a cozy night. What were we doing? Just roasting chicken and having dinner. Trying to roast a chicken. And it was just an amazing surprise. It was so sweet and natural and very romantic. He got on one knee. Was it an instant yes from you? Yes, as a matter of fact I could barely let you finish proposing. I said, can I say yes now? She didn't even let me finish. She said, can I say yes now? And then there was hugs and I had the ring in my finger. I was like, can I give you the ring? She was, oh yes, the ring. So no, it was a really nice moment. It was just the two of us and I think I managed to catch her by surprise as well. We first met, we were introduced actually by a mutual friend who

1:28:21 And we will protect her privacy. But it was literally through her and then we met once and then twice back to back, two dates in London, last July, beginning of July. And then it was I think about three, maybe four weeks later that I managed to persuade her to come and join me in Botswana. As one does. And we camped out with each other under the stars. Botswana. And we spent five days out there which was absolutely fantastic. So then we were really by ourselves, which was crucial to me to make sure that we had a chance to get to know each other. Because I'm from the States, you don't grow up with the same

1:29:06 understanding of the royal family and so while I now understand very clearly there's a global interest there, I didn't know much about him and so the only thing that I had asked her when she said she wanted to set us up was, I had one question, I said, well is he nice? Because if he wasn't kind, it just didn't seem like it would make sense. And so we went and had a... met for a drink. And then I think very quickly into that we said, what are we doing tomorrow? We should meet again. What are we doing tomorrow? Let's meet again. And then it was like, right, diaries. We need to get the diaries out and find out how we're going to make this work. Because I was off to Africa for a month. She was working and we just said, right, where's the gap? And the gap happened to be in the perfect place. A spark, a spook

1:29:51 Spot the spook. Everybody wants to spot the spook. Damn, John, I think you're on to something. Maybe I knew no there's a couple things. I'll say cuz I've been following these two And it's funny that's covered better here than it is over there Yeah, you mean the spook angle or just in general those spook anger angles only covered on the no agenda Okay, just checking to make sure we're unique, but the total news content seems to be a little less over there although over there they're more critical of her because she's half black and And so they're racist about it, even though when you watch the two of them, and her in particular, they really are an attractive couple. And she's gorgeous. She is a very good looking woman. And he's a great looking guy. So I mean, this is a kind of a mutual seduction club. They leave out the name of the person that put them together for some reason, and they make, oh, it's when you protect your privacy, really?

1:30:55 So there's something very fishy about the whole thing. But there... And I like that because that's clearly the connector, the handler, you know, whatever. Yeah, something like that. So there's a handler involved and put the two of them together for... I don't know what the point of the whole thing is. Maybe they actually... A lot of people are very racist about this, but other people are looking at it from a positive side, which is that the royal family blood is inbred too much. But that's what they said about Diana. You know, we need to get some from fresh blood in there and that didn't turn out well for everybody. Well, they got some fresh blood this time. That's got it. That's a little more as they put it in some references is a very exotic. Yeah. And I think it's going to be it's a cute couple. It'll be very interesting to see how they compete with the other cute couple. Well, good. I mean, we need some of the gossip about.

CHAPTER 29 / 45 Discussion

Donald Trump's "Pocahontas" Comment to Navajo Code Talkers

President Trump drew criticism for referring to Senator Elizabeth Warren as "Pocahontas" during a White House ceremony honoring Navajo Code Talkers. Warren responded by calling the remark a "racial slur" intended to silence her. The hosts discuss the inappropriateness of the timing while debating whether the name of a historical figure constitutes a slur in this context.

donald trump· elizabeth warren· pocahontas· navajo code talkers· racism

1:31:47 And you need something to follow. The Royals! And we need a jingle now, then we can make it complete. The Royals. Really. The Royals. Yeah. Onward to less spooky stuff. Did you get the... What do you think about... Play my Pocahontas clip, which came at the end. They're talking about all the... all the stories about sexual misconduct. And of course, this is PBS. They have to bring Trump into it again with the discussion with Elizabeth Warren and I guess they were talking about the Consumer Protection Agency. Let's just say that that was one of the funniest things I've ever seen when Trump turned to the Navajo code talkers. And I know what he's trying to say, but he's a moron. He can't speak.

1:32:39 The man can't communicate. What he's trying to say is, you guys are great. Isn't it horrible that there's this woman who's impersonating you? Which of course is completely inappropriate at the time. Yeah. Completely inappropriate. But I just, I can't help but laugh. Like, holy crap. Now, I'm sure a lot of people think I'm an a-hole for laughing about it and I don't care about the country. But I just, it's, geez, there's plenty of humor. Well, here's the part that gets me is, play the clip and then I'll discuss it. Senator earlier today, President Trump at a ceremony honoring Navajo code talkers, again, derisively referred to you as Pocahontas. Do you have any response to the president's comments?

1:33:19 This was supposed to be a ceremony honoring Native Americans who had done incredible work on behalf of the United States that had saved countless lives. lives, both of people in the United States and people, our allies around the world. This was a moment to honor them, to honor their heroism. And Donald Trump just couldn't make it through without adding a racist slur to the event. I know he thinks that somehow doing that is going to shut me up, but it hadn't worked in the past and it's sure not going to work in the future. It's pretty much the same she said on every single interview. You can't make any pass you with human in the future. And then she makes but racial slur. I don't understand what that's saying. That concept. No, I'm not. I don't. I don't. Isn't Pocahontas a fictional character?

1:34:18 No, I think it's a real person. Okay. And she became, I believe if I'm not mistaken, she actually moved to England, changed her name to Rebecca. I believe, I could be wrong. Right. I heard that everywhere and I didn't quite understand either. Rachel Slur. Rachel Slur. It's a name. Yeah. Like I started calling you Ben. Dude, that's Rachel Slur. Yeah. It's like a random racial slur. Yeah, no I'm not accepting that. But just the whole, you know. First of all... Yeah, Trump, he has... On one hand, please stop doing that. On the other hand, I love it! He can't stop doing it. He's never gonna stop doing it. Just the way it goes. He can't stop it. It's, yeah. Well there is something that I believe to be totally bogus.

CHAPTER 30 / 45 Discussion

North Korea Hwasong-15 Missile Launch and Military Funding

North Korea successfully tested the Hwasong-15 ICBM, which reached an altitude of 2,800 miles and demonstrated the potential to strike Washington, D.C. The hosts argue that these launches are often used as "sales jobs" to justify increased military spending in the U.S. and to maintain a presence near China. They suggest that the North Korean regime primarily seeks international recognition as a legitimate state.

north korea· hwasong-15· kim jong-un· missile test· military-industrial complex

1:35:15 And I think it was the setup and Trump's in on it and it stinks and I don't like it. So we have this missile launch. Now, you know, there was, it's very odd, comes out of nowhere, but more importantly, Everybody has details, MSNBC in particular, but everybody has details, you know, oh, when it could go up higher, this could land right in the middle of Japan. Yes, I have a pretty complete report we should play, then you can finish this because you're right. Okay. This is from PBS, which I think is fairly objective. It doesn't get carried away. This is the DRK new missile launch. Now, North Korea tests a new missile, rattling nerves in Asia and here in Washington. William Brangham has the story.

1:36:01 The North Korean news anchor hailed the latest launch, delivering a statement from the nation's leader on state TV. Kim Jong-un declared with pride that now we have finally realized the great historic cause of completing the state nuclear force, the cause of building rocket power. The broadcast showed an image of Kim signing the order to launch. The new missile, dubbed the Hwasong-15, flew farther than any North Korean rocket had before. It soared to an altitude of nearly 2,800 miles, then dove into the Sea of Japan, within what's known as Japan's exclusive economic zone. That means, if shot on a flatter trajectory, the missile could have flown some 8,000 miles, reaching Washington, D.C.

1:36:48 It remains unclear if the North Koreans have figured out how to either fit a nuclear warhead onto the missile or created one that could survive reentry into Earth's atmosphere. But on the streets of the capital Pyongyang, North Koreans played their dutiful part, cheering the announcement. The missile launch has brought us another victory. Our success has once more cracked down on the U.S., which is unable to see its coming death. South Korea responded with its own drill, firing off missiles into the sea. And President Moon Jae-in spoke with President Trump by phone. His spokesman said he'd warned the situation could get out of control. President Moon stressed that we should prevent a situation in which North Korea misjudges the current situation and threatens us with nuclear weapons, or a situation in which the U.S. takes into consideration preemptive strikes. Mr. Trump also spoke by phone with Chinese President Xi Jinping. Afterward, Mr. Trump tweeted that new sanctions on the North would be forthcoming.

1:37:49 The Chinese Foreign Ministry said Xi is gravely concerned. This afternoon, the UN Security Council held another emergency meeting on the North's continued defiance of UN resolutions. Defense Department as everybody else got hold on Whenever we're talking about the missile we have to from time to time just light one up. Yeah fire it off Yeah, just in a natural break where I'm saying you know so we're talking about this missile the North Korea I mean that's how you do it. Yeah. Now we know from first-hand information from my uncle that you know what North Korea is really about. He's been to North Korea eight times in the past 15 years. He was ambassador to South Korea. He believes Dennis Rodman knows more about Kim Jong-un and North Korea than anyone in the entire State Department or the White House.

1:38:47 And the bottom line is they just want to be recognized as a real country. They don't want armistice. They just want to be their own country, do their own thing. And that is not being done for the military-industrial complex. It is every single time they light something up, it's a sales job to someone. And in addition, we want to maintain our military force in the region because China. It's that simple. Trump is in on this, this time, and I will continue to condemn him for this bullcrap. It's disappointing. Everybody was doing this. Every president has used little North Korea to get military funding, sales jobs, and okay, maybe he's looking at it from a macro perspective and saying,

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Trump's Response to Missile Launch and Democratic Boycott

President Trump used the North Korean missile launch to criticize Democratic leaders Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi for skipping a scheduled meeting. He linked the national security threat to the need for a border wall and increased military funding, accusing Democrats of being "weak on crime." The hosts analyze Trump's rhetorical "pivot" from the missile launch to his domestic political agenda.

donald trump· chuck schumer· nancy pelosi· military spending· border wall

1:39:33 You know, this is good for the economy, so I'll use the same damn trick. And because we know he can't speak in public, certainly not off the cuff, he gives it all away in his response here. Well, as you said, Katie, we have confirmation now that this was a North Korean... Ah, sorry. Fucking wrong clip. Here we go. That was a good setup to a fail. Here we go. Thank you very much. As you probably have heard, and some of you have reported, a missile was launched A little while ago from North Korea, I will only tell you that we will take care of it. We have General Mattis in the room with us and we've had a long discussion on it. It is a situation that we will handle. With that being said, Chuck Schumer and- There's the pivot. Right away, there's the pivot. He can't do it any other way. He has to immediately tie it into the entire reason for this bullcrap. Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi did not show up for our meeting today.

1:40:33 I'm not really that surprised. We have a lot of differences. They're weak on crime. They're weak on illegal immigration. They want the illegal folks to come pouring into our border and a lot of problems are being caused. So we've stopped it to a large extent as much as you can without the wall, which we're going to get. This, by the way, is this is him again. Not sticking to the topic he's off on his wall all this bullcrap and as he must have given yeah Maybe it's a shot caller and like okay. Can we get back to the topic here for a second? Oh? Yeah, I remember a sales job they

1:41:09 Before this meeting and before this missile launch they've been weak on military in terms of spending. They're very hard to get for military They want it for a lot of other things, but the military is always secondary to them the military to me number one We won't be here without our powerful military and we're building it up stronger bigger better than ever before and general matters can testify to that so they decided not to show up and They've been all talk and they've been... That's another thing. When someone's doing a sales job, and Bloom used to do this to me all the time, you know, we got Adam Curry here and then I keep talking and Adam can attest to that and I keep talking. Don't let me say anything. And Mattis was the Adam in this one. He's just in there, okay, yeah, that's right. You know what I mean? Yeah. This is a sales job. He's selling the American public and the world on more money for the military

1:42:02 Which the Democrats are blocking. And we're building it up stronger, bigger, better than ever before and General Mattis can testify to that. So they decided... Did he say a testify? Back it. I think he did. And General Mattis can testify to that. Nice! They said a testify. A testify! We should be like, in the church everybody. Yes. What an idiot. Wait, wait, wait. He doubles down at the very end. We're almost done. So they decided not to show up. They've been all talk and they've been no action. And now it's even worse. Now it's not even talk. So they're not showing up for the meeting. I will say this in light of the missile launch, probably they'll be here fairly quickly or at least discussions will start taking place fairly quickly. Yeah. Set up and he gave it all away.

CHAPTER 32 / 45 Discussion

Trump Retweets Britain First Anti-Muslim Videos

President Trump sparked international controversy by retweeting three anti-Muslim videos posted by Jayda Fransen, leader of the far-right group Britain First. British Prime Minister Theresa May condemned the retweets, stating it was "wrong" for the President to promote hateful narratives. The hosts discuss the questionable authenticity of the videos, including one from Egypt and another from the Netherlands.

donald trump· britain first· jayda fransen· theresa may· retweets· islam

1:43:03 It's disappointing. I think Kelly must have the time of his life trying to control this character I don't think you can control them at all. No it doesn't look like it. Oh, yeah in fact That's why we came up with the next topic at least the one I want to head toward mm-hmm which is retweet gate Yes, yeah, I did a little research for you. President Trump today retweeted anti-Muslim videos posted by the leader of a far-right extremist party in Britain. The retweets were widely condemned even by the president's political allies, British Prime Minister Theresa May and television host Piers Morgan who won Mr. Trump's celebrity apprentice. Mark Phillips reports from London.

1:43:52 She's an admitted agitator from the far-right anti-immigrant fringe of British politics who's already been convicted of religious hate crimes and provoking Muslims where they live is what she does. And now Donald Trump has done Jada Franson a huge favor. Was this a good day for you? Very good day indeed. Earlier this morning the president retweeted three old largely discredited videos that Franson had dug up. One, her Britain First Party claims, shows extremists throwing somebody off a roof. It turned out to be a fight between rival political factions in Egypt and a crime for which the perpetrators were sentenced to death. Another showed a jihadist fighter destroying a Christian statue. And a third claimed to show an Islamic immigrant in the Netherlands attacking a Dutch boy on crutches. It turns out both the attacker and victim were born and bred in Holland.

1:44:53 The content of the videos is suspect, but the message is clear. I think the issue here that we need to home in on is that Islam has threatened the world for far too long. And that, said White House spokesperson Sarah Huckabee Sanders, is why the president did what he did. Whether it's a real video, the threat is real and that is what the president is talking about. Now, a couple of things. I believe that this story is designed to, and there's some hints about it, but CBS in particular, CIA, I don't think that they really are a pro-Muslim organization by any means. And I think this report was actually

1:45:42 a white supremacist report promoting it. If this story was a non-story and if these guys, what they've done is they've really given a lot of attention, I'm talking about this network CBS, they've given a lot of attention to this woman in England who had something like 40,000 followers I think and now she's got over a million. And they've given a lot of attention to this and everybody's done the same thing, but they've always couched it in, oh my god, this is so terrible and here's what happened. And then they show you this guy throwing a guy off the roof and all the, you know, some of this stuff, everything short of the head chopping, which they used to promote all the time too.

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White House Defense of Britain First Retweets

White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders defended President Trump's retweets, arguing that "the threat is real" regardless of the videos' specific authenticity. The hosts suggest that the media's extensive coverage of the controversy has inadvertently promoted the Britain First organization. They also note the irony of Trump sharing potentially "fake news" while frequently criticizing the media for the same.

sarah sanders· donald trump· britain first· fake news· national security

1:46:21 But that has been kind of disappeared so they need some new head shopping stuff to get everybody to hate the Muslims Yeah, now it gets even worse when you take a look at I see that clip. I think was the retweet controversy Jews hate Muslims on CBS they ABC has Played this ABC. This is a retweet gate ABC Okay. A vote is coming very soon, traveling to St. Louis today. But overshadowing his push, a series of tweets today, inflammatory videos, one proven false, and the White House saying whether the videos are real or not, it doesn't matter. ABC's chief White House correspondent, Jonathan Karl.

1:47:02 The president today avoided questions about the extremist videos he retweeted. Videos that have provoked an international backlash. Mr. President, why have you been retweeting anti-Muslim videos? The three videos were originally posted by a tiny anti-Islam ultra-nationalist party called Britain First. A group known for hate-filled incitement. They purport to show Muslims engaged in violent acts. In a blunt statement, the office of British Prime Minister Theresa May, perhaps America's closest ally, condemned the president for his tweets, saying the group Britain First seeks to divide communities through their use of hateful narratives which peddle lies and stoke tensions. It is wrong for the president to have done this. But White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders defended the tweets.

1:47:51 to talk about national security and national security threats. The White House insists this is about strong borders. Anyway, so now here's what gives me the idea that these promote, these are promotional to promote this group and to promote the anti-Muslim hate. And I say that because the one element of these tweets, which, because they're questionable. There's one of them was the guys being thrown off a roof was two military groups or militant groups fighting each other and some guy got thrown off the roof. They all got thrown in jail. That was in Egypt. The smashing of the icon of the Virgin Mary is like, so would they do that all the time? So it's not really- And by the way, those are often bogus statues.

1:48:36 Yes, and that didn't look like a real statue either. It looks like it was made of plaster of Paris. Did it have rebar inside? No, no, it was cheesy. And then the other one, which they left out the point, it was probably a Muslim kid beating up somebody, but it's beside the point that that kid was arrested. So all these, so, but here's what these are. They amount to what? specific thing Trump's always bitching about and none of these networks turn this around because they could have but they didn't. They could, none of them turned it around and say hey fake news. Right. Where this is fake news Trump. No I heard I heard some on MSNBC saying fake news. Well they're the only ones because I never heard it on the big networks. I think that this is a promotion and

CHAPTER 34 / 45 Discussion

PBS NewsHour Discussion on Trump's Retweets

The hosts criticize PBS NewsHour for its coverage of the retweet controversy, which featured Jonathan Greenblatt of the ADL and Rizwan Jaka of the ADAMS Center. They argue that the segment lacked balance, as both guests took the same anti-Trump position. The discussion labels PBS as the "Propaganda Broadcast System" for failing to provide a diverse range of perspectives on the issue.

pbs newshour· adl· jonathan greenblatt· rizwan jaka· propaganda

1:49:25 And now, and then the worst part about it was we had this, the retweet clip. This one's gonna be the Jew and the Muslim on PBS. We have a situation on PBS, again, the NewsHour doing what I bitch about constantly, is they're gonna bitch about these retweets. It's retweets, how is this even news? Oh, the president retweeted some bogus story. Who hasn't done that? Anyway. Has it been Trump today? Oops. Yeah, go play because here's what we're dealing with which is always on PBS NewsHour. Two guys that bring Kemper to talk about it. Both of them on the same side of the argument. President Trump today retweeted anti-Muslim videos posted by the leader. What? It's a wrong clip. This is retweet gate. Jew and the Muslim. It says Muslim. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That was the CBS one. Which he already played actually.

1:50:20 Okay, got it. Sorry. Here we go. Jonathan Greenblatt, what was your reaction when you saw the president's retweets? Well, I think all of us were fairly stunned to see the retweets. The fact of the matter is extremists already feel emboldened because the president has repeatedly equivocated in the unequivocal, whether it's after Charlottesville or any number of other incidents. I equivocated the unequivocal just the other night. Now which clip was that? It's not done yet. No, no, but was that retweet gay Jew and the Muslim? Yeah, Muslim. Or retweet gay PBS discussion. No, retweet gay Jew and the Muslim on PBS. Muslim, yes. Play the retweet gay PBS discussion. That's the one where it brings this point up. What he has done and said not only in his own country, but now, you know, getting involved in the debate here, he's normalizing hatred.

1:51:14 And in a statement, a spokesman for British Prime Minister Theresa May said it is wrong for the president to have done this. But White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders defended the retweets as she acknowledged they may be misleading. Whether it's a real video, the threat is real and that is what the president is talking about. Sanders also said Prime Minister May and other world leaders quote know that these are real threats. I'm joined now by Rizwan Jaka. He runs interfaith and government relations for the All-Dulles Area Muslim Society or ADAMS Center, the second largest mosque in the United States. It's located in Virginia. And Jonathan Greenblatt. He's a CEO and national director of the Anti-Defamation League, a civil rights group. He served on the staff of the Obama White House. And we welcome both of you.

1:52:09 Now, the point is we have two guys that are going to go away. Why don't there has to be somebody that can rationalize or at least take the president's side in this debate and say, well, he does a lot of stupid retweet or he does this or he does that. Or it makes sense. You know, he saw these things. He's just a guy who is like anybody else on Twitter. I mean, there's nobody ever given the opportunity. It's probably worse. I think no one wants the job. I don't want to go defend that crap. Sarah Huckabee already has to do it. I will argue against that because there are so many people that would do anything to get on television.

1:52:50 Yes, or there's plenty of guys on the list of the producers have and they let they call me Can you make can you go and talk about this about that in this from this perspective? They have a hundred people that would at least a few of them would say yeah sure I can do that you could even get a Muslim to talk about it. I can see I can see it absolutely Yeah, I agree, so they don't do that so it's propaganda broadcast system Exactly. PBS, the propaganda broadcast system. This has gotten much, much worse over the last few years since Eiffel died. And I get irked by it. I don't like to see that. There's no debate here. You've got two guys taking the same exact side of an argument and it's just piling on. This is not journalism. You know, I hear Matt Lauer is available. Maybe he could...

CHAPTER 35 / 45 Discussion

German Mayor Attacked Over Refugee Policies

Andreas Holstein, the mayor of Altena, Germany, was stabbed in a neck at a food stall by a man criticizing his pro-refugee policies. The attacker, a German citizen, reportedly asked the mayor about feeding refugees while locals were "starving." Chancellor Angela Merkel expressed horror at the attack, which the hosts cite as evidence of growing public resentment toward immigration policies in Europe.

andreas holstein· germany· refugees· knife attack· angela merkel

1:53:40 You could fill it in and do the pro-Trump side. I made my point. Yes. Well, meanwhile there was actual news regarding immigrants in the Eurozones. And that would have been tweetable. about the need for German towns and for his town in particular to do more for refugees. Well, he was at a food stall in the town when a man came up behind him and attacked him. Thankfully, he was okay enough to be able to give this interview afterwards. When he approached me, he looked aggressive. He asked me whether I was the mayor and I said yes.

1:54:33 Then he pulled out a knife saying you let me starve, but you let 200 refugees into our city I really feared for my life. I was scared that I hadn't just been wounded that I might die, but then I was rescued. Certainly quite understated from the mayor mayor just there, but when we listened to first responders who were on the scene, we realized this could have been much worse. Judging by what he said, he was a German citizen who objected to our mayor's migrant policies. He asked, are you the mayor? To which the mayor replied, yes. And then he asked, how can you feed the refugees here while we are starving? So he can't be a refugee, he must be a German citizen.

1:55:13 Eyewitnesses told German media that the man appeared to be intoxicated and that he was shouting about Andreas Holstein's policies on refugees. Now, Chancellor Angela Merkel has also issued a statement on this. Mr. Holstein is from her own party. She said that she was horrified by this attack and relieved that he was back at home recuperating with his family. So, that's a real story to me. The people of Germany are so sick of it now, stabbing their mayors. That's a story. Yes, I'd say stabbing the mayors. Yeah, you know, we're so sick of these policies. You know, this should get everybody pause in the Death Star there in Brussels.

CHAPTER 36 / 45 Discussion

Angela Merkel's Political Instability and SPD Coalition

German Chancellor Angela Merkel faces increasing political pressure as coalition talks struggle and calls for a leadership change grow within her party. The hosts discuss the precarious position of the SPD and the CSU in Bavaria, noting that Merkel's long-standing dominance is being challenged by internal dissent and the fallout from the refugee crisis.

angela merkel· germany· cdu· spd· coalition· elections

1:56:01 And just to stay on the Deutschland topic Merkel herself is in some trouble. But at the end of the day that oh I love this woman. So we already made fun of the Dutch woman Here's the German woman who kicks it off with an end of the day and just a lovely accent But at the end of the day that it looks like the SPD will always be the loser it because even if by this situation a new election is triggered, they will be hammered in the polls because they will be seen as the ones who didn't want to take responsibility. Which is interesting again because Angela Merkel, she could kind of take a step back again and is now watching everybody collapsing around

1:56:40 her so the CSU in Bavaria is in big trouble, the FDP is in trouble because they left the coalition talks and the SPD is in terrible trouble but be careful about this because the voices in the CDU saying we need to have a change of leadership are growing with the day. Mmm, Merkel in Mercantile! I've been hearing this for five years. Yeah, well. Or more. That she's gonna get booted out. She never gets booted out. But now they're stabbing mayors, so... Yeah, well the stabbing mayors thing is distressing. If you're a mayor, it is. Yeah. Okay, moving into our break, I have a correction from Show X, which we spoke about earlier. Yeah. We made a mistake. I think we made several.

CHAPTER 37 / 45 Discussion

Correction on "Double Nickels on the Dime" Origin

The hosts issue a correction regarding the origin of the "double nickels on the dime" ($55.10) donation amount, attributing it to Tom Boushey in 2010 rather than Sergeant Fred. They also discuss a physical letter and check received from Richard and Delia Moffitt, highlighting the persistence of traditional mail in the digital age of the No Agenda show.

double nickels· tom boushey· sergeant fred· moffitt check· podcasting

1:57:24 But the origins of double nickels on the dime was particularly irksome to... and now I've forgotten who it was. This will be even more irksome. No, I'm gonna get it here. Dave Pugh. Dave Pugh. Dave Pugh Pugh. What did we say? Well, I said, when we said what is the origin, what is the genesis of the double nickels on the dime donation, I said that thing came from Sergeant Fred. Oh, oh, I didn't know who it came from. I knew it came from somebody and so I assumed that when you said that you were talking from a point of knowledge. And there you go. I assumed wrong. Yes, you assumed wrong. Tom Bouchy, 55. This is No Agenda Show 179.

1:58:10 This is, uh, March 4th, 2010. And notice, for some reason, I decided to add echo to my voice. I don't know why. Tom Boushey, 5510, who has another hidden cabin we can hide in. You know, it doesn't have InkerNet, because we're gonna need that. And he says it's, uh, but 5510 is actually double nickels on the dime. Hell yeah! Faux-shizzle. Thought that was great, but there you go she's she's double nickels on the dime okay and upon See I received a letter in the mail and did you get a letter from Richard and Delia Moffett? from with a check

1:58:54 We already talked about this on the show, I think, a couple of times. I don't know. Oh, the Moffitt check. Yeah, 11111? Yeah. Okay, well I received it and just wanted to read the note. Okay. So from Richard Moffitt, Dear Adam, congratulations to you and John on 10 years of podcasting. The enclosed money is for you to purchase from InfoWars, BrainForce, and any other products that will help you to last another 10 years. Okay, let me explain. Now I remember. Moffitt sent me a letter with two envelopes in it.

1:59:30 One of them, he said, send to Adam. That's when I asked you the last time about your address. I put it on there. Then I slipped it onto the cabinet where I put all my outbox stuff. And it was there for about two weeks. And then I grabbed, oh man, I got to mail this. So I grabbed it and mailed it like a couple of days before I left. And so you finally got it. And I wanted to know what was in it because it looks like he sent us each a check. for $111.11. Oh yeah, I can see. I didn't know that for sure. I put my into the system, so. Okay, now I see the evidence because I see it's his handwriting with his return address and Adam Curry and then your handwriting, I guess, with my address under it. Okay. Yes, that would be right. Nice. Okay. Well, hey, the system works. Who needs email? You don't need your stankin' email. I'm gonna show my support by donating to KnowAgenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab.

CHAPTER 38 / 45 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony and Error Corrections

A formal knighting ceremony is conducted for producers Jared Zeifman (Sir Bram of Upper Candanavia), Aaron Yoho (Sir Aaron Yoho, Knight Esquire of the Noble Phallus), and Steven Powers (Sir Fiver of the Warren). The hosts address previous errors in donor credits and emphasize the importance of the "ERROR" subject line for listener feedback.

knighthood· jared zeifman· aaron yoho· steven powers· corrections

2:00:27 I have two errors that I need to read. Yeah. Apologies, this is from Jared Zeifman. Apologize for disturbing while away on travel. I very much appreciate you getting my name right in the second donor segment, but unfortunately my note attached to the PayPal donation either didn't come through or wasn't read. It was actually for both my birthday, which is today, the 21st, and for my nighting. I was hoping that can be corrected next episode, and I would like to be known as, you got your pen out,

2:01:08 Let me whip it out whip it out Whip it out Matt. Hey. Hey. Hey, so he's gonna be knighted. Yes, and sir sir Bram of the upper, Candinavia sir Bram Bram BRAM of upper, Candinavia And we might as well call him out for his birthday on the 21st up belated on the 21st. This is Jaron Zeifman, okay? Hold on Jaron Jared Jared Jared guy Zeifman wait the subway guys Jared. Yeah, hold on just go Nice hold on

2:01:46 How do I spell Zeifman? Z-A-I-F Zeifman, M-A-N. Okay. And the 21st. Okay, good. Got it. We have one other one. We have two today. Two and only two. Knighting Error Alert! Uh-oh. This is from Aaron Yoho. Aaron Y-O-H-O. I should have been knighted, Sir Aaron Yoho, Knight Esquire of the Noble Phallus. appropriate for this particular show, seeing as our law firm, Sheyoholaw.com, Shey, S-H-A-Y, Yoho, Y-O-H-O, blah, that kind of thing, everyone wants to look it up, is in Kingwood, West Virginia. I don't see the connection, but okay. Also, it seems a non-sequitur to me, okay. Also, I requested karma, but didn't get it. Also requested

2:02:41 Pepperoni rolls and pale ales. It's a fine dinner after a breakfast of buckwheat cakes and black label. Pepperoni rolls and? Pale ales. Pale ales, yeah. I would finally like to add Harlots and Haldol to the offerings in honor of Sir HMFIC. Or buddy. Harlots and Haldol. Harlots. Harlots and Haldol. Yeah. Shea and Yoho remind you, don't talk to the police. Yes. Ever. Yeah. So he'll be Sir Aaron Yoho, Knight Esquire of what? The Noble Thalys. Thalys? As in dick. Thalys?

2:03:36 Nice. Yeah, phallus. B-H-A-L-L-U-S. Make sure you get the spelling right, otherwise you'll get another note. Yeah, another correction. But, you know what? I know how to spell phallus. It's in my DNA. Okay. Does he need any karma? I'm gonna throw out a karma one. Give these guys a karma. Give these guys a karma. Okay, well, I take it back. There's one third one that I... Sorry. This is from Steven Powers. My name is Steven Powers. I am listed as an executive producer on the 10th Anniversary Show but wasn't knighted. With my $4 subscription chip-ins and the double offer, I should have made knighthood that episode. If things check out, please knight me as Sir Fiver of the Warren.

2:04:35 Add him and we're done. Okay, so did he even alert us to his knighthood or he just thought it would be automatic I have no idea. I'm not gonna go back to find out. Oh, no, it's okay I was just curious if you know all right good well I shall take care of that sir looking forward to uh so we have four people on the list no three Yeah, we got Stephen Powers survivor of the war and we got Jared Zeifman And he'll be Sir Bramble, Upper Canada, and then Aaron Yoho. Okay, good. Alright. Meeting adjourned. Yes, very good. Hopefully that will come down to zero errors in the future. But again, if you have a problem with what we did, write ERROR in caps in the subject line and send a note in to me or any of the addresses that you see on the NOA Agenda Show, many links on the emails. Yes, which means they all send it to me. That's exactly how it works. Okay, good.

CHAPTER 39 / 45 Discussion

Phthalates in Mac and Cheese Controversy

A listener's note clarifies the role of phthalates as plasticizers used to make polymers softer, rather than making them "shiny" as previously suggested. The discussion centers on the safety of phthalates in Kraft Macaroni and Cheese, with the hosts debating whether the trace amounts found in cheese powder pose a significant health risk to consumers.

phthalates· mac and cheese· plasticizers· kraft· health

2:10:57 Great heart disease karma from my dad who didn't have a stable heartbeat for 90 minutes. You should know he is doing well now and back to being fat and lazy. Nice. Also, my name is Connor Campbell, not Tim. I changed my name. Not sure how to change it with PayPal. I'll be sure to change it next time I donate. Love the show. 10 more years. And then... This is interesting. I've been wanting to donate so bad to tell you guys you have no idea what plasticizers are for. We talked about plasticizers. They are for making plastic polymers softer, more ductile, and more plasticy. When people add phthalates to traffic cones, it's not to make them shiny, you fools. It's to make sure they don't break your bumper when you run over them. Oh. The amount of phthalates in mac and cheese is so small, there's literally no reason to think there's any reason it might harm any living being. Well, why are they in the mac and cheese?

2:11:52 I have no idea, maybe to make him shiny. Because the cheese, that denim mac and cheese is that funny shiny cheese is weird. I didn't know about it, by the way, I did not know this, I should. But I don't think I ever said phthalates were used for... for what? Was she... saying? No, I think I said it. We were talking about traffic cones and I said, oh, maybe it makes them shiny because we... because it... Oh, I see. OK. I never said that. No, John, it does not make cheese look shiny, especially if the concentration is in the realm of PPB, whatever. The PubMed study linked and show 948 had rats drinking phthalates in the realm of 5 to 10 parts per million for water constantly every day compared to 105 parts per billion at the highest in Kraft cheese powder. Nobody eating this will be significantly or even slightly harmed by eating boxed mac and cheese. I beg to differ. That shit will kill you. Phthalates or not. What are you talking about? Kraft mac and cheese is not good for the soul.

2:12:50 That's you know at the rate. We're going that'll be our only commercial Along with me doing the boob thing all right well everybody. Thank you very much. This is for three shows so you can tell that Donations definitely could use some help and this is the value for value model All you have to do is think, did I get any value out of this? Did we perform for you like monkey boys? Then give us what you felt it was worth. Our performance. So remember that for our show coming on Sunday. Devorak.org slash N-A. As requested by many. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma. It's your birthday, birthday.

CHAPTER 40 / 45 Discussion

University of Rochester Sexual Harassment Scandal

Professor Florian Yeager of the University of Rochester is accused of manipulative sexual behavior in an EEOC complaint filed by students and faculty. One student has reportedly gone on a hunger strike to demand Yeager's termination. The allegations include hosting hot tub parties with students and sending unwanted explicit photos, though the university's initial investigation cleared him of wrongdoing.

university of rochester· florian yeager· sexual harassment· hunger strike· eeoc

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2:15:13 And it's all waiting for you here at the roundtable. Thank you for your support of the show, the best podcast in the universe, aggregated into a total of $1,000 or more. And that is a big deal. I love it when guys have been sending four bucks. Four bucks! It's fantastic. And now he's a knight. Yeah. Well, it takes a while, but you get there. It keeps from going overboard. But we kept our end of the bargain. We kept going until he had his knighthood. Yeah, we did. And I think there's something to be said for that. Not much. Well, as you know, as you know, yes, I made the prediction that academics will be the next target or one of the next targets. Yes. So we got a pervert, I guess. Let's say the pervert professor. This I think they're experimenting because I didn't see this on the nightly news by me. I just missed it because I

2:16:05 you know, because I was on vacation. But it did play on the CBS morning news and while Charlie Rose was still on the show and sitting there, I thought they ran this story. It's very funny. The University of Rochester is responding to claims it mishandled sexual harassment allegations against one of its star professors. A complaint filed with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission calls Florian Yeager manipulative sexual predator. It also accuses University officials of retaliating against faculty who complained about his conduct. Anna Werner is at the University in upstate New York with the latest on this story. Anna, good morning. Good morning. Well, University of Rochester officials say that they thoroughly investigated the allegations against their Department of Brain and Cognitive Sciences professor Florian Yeager and found that he did not violate any of their policies. But the professor

2:16:54 Officers and students who have allegations against him claim that investigation was shoddy. They've now filed an EEOC complaint and some students are taking actions of their own. Some University of Rochester students say they've lost confidence in school administrators, accusing them of failing the alleged victims. Senior Lindsay Robel has been on a hunger strike since midnight Thursday. She vows not to eat until Florian Yeager is fired. I'm prepared to do this until I'm hospitalized. I hope that it doesn't come to that point. The 111 page EEOC complaint filed in August alleges Yeager hosted hot tub parties, used illegal drugs with students and sent one student unwanted pictures of his genitals. It says at least 11 female students actively avoided working with Yeager because of his constant sexual innuendos, pressure to sleep with students and other unprofessional behavior.

2:17:49 This has been around though, this story's been out for a week, a couple weeks I think. Yeah. No one's really picking it up. Why is that? Is there... I'm wondering myself. I mean, not only that, but even the school defends this guy. I have no idea. And the whole thing about shooting pictures of your genitals and sending them around. Look at this! It's a form of flashing that I think is new. I mean, this is Anthony Weiner's problem. Yeah, it's a big problem. Well, yeah, it goes back to it's a mad mad world. We've been over sexualized. We've been made crazy yet You can't even think about it. Don't don't say anything. We are just simple souls Anyway, I've found the whole thing to be guys weird

CHAPTER 41 / 45 Discussion

Bitcoin Volatility and the "Tethergate" Scam

The hosts discuss the extreme volatility of Bitcoin and the emergence of "Tethergate," involving the Bitfinex exchange. They criticize the introduction of margin trading in the cryptocurrency market, comparing it to a "bullwhip" effect that will eventually lead to a crash. The segment highlights the lack of liquidity and the "scammy" nature of new coins used as IOUs when exchanges run out of cash.

bitcoin· cryptocurrency· tether· bitfinex· jp morgan· margin trading

2:18:37 A lot of Bitcoin craziness going on right now. Yeah, it went up and it went down. Didn't go down much, but did go down. Well, it had a 20% swing, which I can guarantee you this is like a whip. You know, a bullwhip, and the longer the whip gets, the crazier the swing at the end is. And you're gonna see the more people jumping in and jumping on this obvious scam, Man, they're allowing margin trading. Just think about that for a second. They're allowing people to borrow. Who's they? Oh, the big guys are getting in, like JP Morgan, all these guys are getting in on this. Oh, then you know you're going to get ripped off if they get in. Well, they're getting in. Yeah, then they sucker the public to take over their positions and the next thing you know, the thing crashes. That's the oldest story in the book. I've seen it all my life.

2:19:31 But the idea that you're trading on margin, which means you're basically borrowing something that nobody has. So it's an infinite supply. Because you can say, oh, I'm going to borrow Bitcoin and then the lender can, you know, it's not going to be that easy to necessarily go, especially with the underlying fluctuation, to go and grab that. at the price that you want it at the time the margin is made. That's the way you would short by borrowing. That's the only way, yes. But going on margin just means you're borrowing money.

2:20:06 Well, it's really pretty simple. There is one Dutch family who I think did a smart thing. I don't know if they need to stop pretty soon, but I thought this was kind of cute. This family is living on a campsite in the Netherlands because they're big believers in Bitcoin. Here's what's going on. Diddy, his wife, three kids and their cat sold literally everything they owned. Their house, bikes, furniture, cars, clothes, toys, even their shoes. They traded it all in for Bitcoin and now they're waiting for the for the cryptocurrency to really take off. It's only been a few months, but they say they don't regret a thing. You just said it. What can we lose? We can't lose all of it, you know what I'm saying? Ah, shit, you can barely hear it. You get the idea, though. They sold all their possessions, everything, three daughters, beautiful kids, live in a campground now, and they trade it all in for Bitcoin, and they're waiting for the price to be high enough to sell.

2:20:59 Now, this is all fine and dandy, and I know people are like, uh, you're cool with the Bitcoin, hey, but I want to give you a living example of what is wrong with Bitcoin, what is wrong with, really, with the financial news media. CNBC is complicit in this scam to a... Either that or they're so stupid, and it may be the latter. So, the way... you buy and sell bitcoin is through an exchange and You know some some there's a lot of scams going on with that bit finnex as an example They would they ran out of money to pay people who were cashing in their bitcoins for dollars and says it well You know because we have this glitch We're gonna give you tethers. They so they launched a new coin and

2:21:47 And now, of course, now it's called Tethergate. And they would give people, it's like an IOU, a tether. But then they, you know, at the same time they launch the currency, that currency gets some magical value. And it's just the whole thing is scammy. And now there's US customers can no longer trade through their system, through their exchange. because they don't adhere to any of the SEC rules. So really what's left is Coinbase. And Coinbase is the big one. It's a legit company. I've spoken to some of these guys early on and, you know, they seem like they have their heart in the right place but there's an inherent problem with Bitcoin and that is when you want to get liquid. Now I said on a previous show that there's limitations like $2,000 a week or something or $2,000 a day

CHAPTER 42 / 45 Discussion

CNBC Coinbase Live Trade Failure

A live segment on CNBC intended to demonstrate the ease of selling Bitcoin via the Coinbase app resulted in a system failure. The host was unable to sell $66 worth of Bitcoin but was successfully able to buy more, leading the hosts to mock the "Bitcoin gods" narrative. They argue that this demonstrates a fundamental liquidity problem where users can enter the market but struggle to exit during high-volume periods.

cnbc· coinbase· bitcoin· liquidity· financial news· glitch

2:22:34 Some people have said they got seven days or 7,000 a day or a week. The fact that it's restricted at all is a problem and it seems rather arbitrary based upon your credibility and you have to send in documentation. The whole anonymity of it goes away because they just won't let you cash it in for dollars unless they know who you are because that's what the regulations are now being put in place for. But when I saw this on CNBC, it blew my mind that here are financial journalists and no one sees the damn scam. So this guy is he's like, oh, I'm going to show you how Coinbase works because everyone was talking about, oh, Bitcoin 10,000, Bitcoin 11,000. Oh, it's to the moon.

2:23:18 And listen to this fallacy. Bitcoin, Ethereum, Litecoin, or I can sell that amount. And so I can either sell some Bitcoin, I can sell some Litecoin, I can sell some Ethereum. And so what am I going to do today? What are you going to do, BK? You know what? I'm going to be consistent with what I did for myself today and what I did with my fund today. And I'm going to take a little bit off the table. I think, listen, I think it's... Do you hear these morons?

2:24:13 Oh wow, you're gonna sell some Bitcoin. Let's zoom in on the plasma. Let's see how it goes. So I have a small amount in here and I did a small amount just because I wanted to show everybody. You don't have to buy one Bitcoin. I have $66 worth of Bitcoin in here. I've loaded it up. It goes to my bank account here. All I have to do is I click on here and say I want to take my Bitcoin and I want to sell it. I want to sell the maximum amount that I have, which is $66 worth. Boom. There's the live trade. I'm selling that. I'm going to confirm my sell and I'm going to get my money on Tuesday. Oh, the sell failed. Oh, maybe. Okay. So at this point, the screen pops up and it says,

2:24:59 It's an error message. It's not like, you know, you did something wrong. No, it's failed. It just failed. The system failed. It's a dude-named-Ben error message. The system failed. And they're like, awww! Now listen to them try... They know what's going on. And listen to them try and talk it right. They should be buying it. Maybe that's the... Let me roll that back. This is the best part. Hey, all the self-family. Maybe I should be buying it. Maybe that's the Bitcoin gods telling me to buy it. You know what? This is your financial news. The Bitcoin gods telling me to buy it. Let's do it that way. All right. There we go. Okay. So now I can buy a hundred dollars worth of Bitcoin. Boom. They're going to take it out of my bank account. I'm going to confirm my buy.

2:25:48 And I purchased it successfully, so the Bitcoin gods want me to buy it. It looks like it's going higher. That's how you do it. Easy breezy. Wait, so let me get this straight. This is Coinbase, correct? This is the Coinbase app. The system that has had outages basically, difficulties all day long. You wanted to sell, but you couldn't sell. Well, you could buy. Wasn't that— You could buy. —using the right denomination, though? I bet— See, oh, no, no, I think it is—no, it can't possibly be the system. It can't—these guys are overloaded, and maybe when people are selling, when it's at $12,000 or $11,000, maybe they don't have the funds available. This is a real problem.

2:26:26 This is not simple what's going on here. It seemed like you were just going with the wrong size. You were too small. Well, no, I mean, let's let's I mean, we can certainly try it again. But I mean, they've been talking here. The producer going, no, no, no, no, no. Again, Coinbase is having glitches. It's down. Don't try it. I mean, they've been having issues all day, so... Oh, okay. I think it was probably just a glitch in the system. There you go! It's a glitch in the system. People have tens of thousands of dollars and they can't sell it. Get out! Can't. Yeah, if you can. If you can even get liquid. Good luck. Yeah. I mean, this is... When this is all said and done, it's gonna be bigger than Enron.

2:27:14 Well, it's gonna take is not it's not happening tomorrow, but it's gonna have always not happening tomorrow when it happens It's gonna be gonna be it's like beanie babies. I said it from the very beginning I Decided any baby same thing yeah, you're right boy. Just oh you don't even when you're done with beanie, baby At least you have some cute little dolls and stuff to hang on to you had something there's something there you got nothing Yeah, one of the guys that you got it. You got a hashtag hash He was John I'm not sure but anyway he had a one of those bit coins It looks like a challenge coin, but it's got to be on it and the one size go is kind of gold-plated very cute Yeah, okay, so really is that is that a bit coin? He says yeah, it's a bit coin. It's a really very cool. Oh

CHAPTER 43 / 45 Discussion

Jeff Sessions and the Harvard Admissions Investigation

Attorney General Jeff Sessions refused to answer questions regarding a Justice Department investigation into Harvard University's admissions policies. The investigation focuses on whether the university discriminates against Asian American students through its use of race-based criteria. The hosts note the unusual silence from the Attorney General during the press conference and link it to broader debates over affirmative action.

jeff sessions· harvard· civil rights· affirmative action· discrimination

2:28:04 Use it to buy some drinks. Yeah, and I appreciate people who are very pro Bitcoin and who are always sending me arguments. I appreciate it, you know? But I'm just the counter guy. And I hate to say it, but maybe do a little more on Sunday. We've got to go through net neutrality again because I see really good people being hoodwinked again into this bullcrap, you know? Nothing you can do where the many of these issues that we have on this show is kind of themes It's like shoveling, you know sand at the beach into the ocean It just doesn't it's just a waste of time, but pushing water uphill with a broom pretty much. Yeah, the same thing All right, so I got a couple last clips here. All right. This was a very weird clip This is on CBS. I don't know what it means or what it what it

2:28:58 I don't know the underlying anything about this clip, but they played it on CBS for some reason. I think it may be messaging. I'm not sure, but this is the peculiar question about Harvard. Oh, okay. The news conference today our Paula Reed asked Attorney General Jeff Sessions about his department's civil rights priorities. Her question seemed to touch a nerve. Paula, what happened? Anthony, I tried to ask Attorney General Jeff Sessions about the Justice Department's investigation into Harvard University's use of race in admissions. At issue is whether the elite school discriminates against Asian American students by holding them to a higher standard than other African

2:29:37 applicants. Letters we have obtained show civil rights division investigators have concluded the school is out of compliance with federal law. Now, former justice officials tell me this kind of investigation is unprecedented. The letters also indicate Harvard is refusing to hand over documents and has gone so far as to challenge the department's authority to investigate. The Justice Department has threatened to sue the university if it does not cooperate. Now, none of this should have come as a surprise to the Attorney General or his staff, but when I brought it up, here's what happened. Mr. Attorney General, your Civil Rights Department, for the most part, has not done many investigations into systemic racial discrimination, but you are currently investigating. This is the Attorney General of the United States. I understand you're doing your job, but I'm doing mine too.

2:30:23 Your civil rights division is investigating Harvard University for possible civil rights violations related to affirmative action, possibly discriminating against Asian Americans and white students. Why is this a priority for your Justice Department? We'll take an on-topic question out of the jury. Why can't he answer that though? I mean... He was able to ask about Alabama, he was able to ask about sanctuary cities. Why can't I ask about this? Justice Department reporters, we regularly ask about ongoing investigations and Mr. Sessions' staff routinely declines to comment. But not allowing the Attorney General to deal with a direct question in an open press conference is, to say the least, unusual, Anthony. A very persistent Paula Reid with a very silent Attorney General. Thank you.

CHAPTER 44 / 45 Discussion

Dalhousie University Emergency Hijab Kits

Dalhousie University in Nova Scotia has introduced "emergency hijab kits" on campus for Muslim students who may have their headcoverings removed or damaged. The hosts mock the concept, questioning the frequency of "hijab grabbing" incidents and suggesting that other religions should demand similar emergency kits, such as "yarmulke kits" or "pastafarian strainers."

dalhousie university· hijab· canada· religion· safety· pastafarianism

2:31:08 Well, it is interesting that Elizabeth Warren used some of those admission rules to get her tenure by saying she was Cherokee, part Cherokee. Yeah, that is interesting, but I don't think know if it's connected to this story. Why are they all why they'll all in a huff about it? I don't know. I just saw the clip. I said, well, maybe I don't know. I just want to get on the record that something weird is going on with Harvard. Well, I have a justice department. I have a university clip. Daluise University. No, Daluci. Daluci. I don't know how to pronounce it. Where is that?

2:31:48 Isn't it in Newark in Louisiana? Let me see. Dalhousie. No, that's in Candanavia. Oh, it makes nothing but sense now. Oh, yes. Oh, they're so good up there I don't want you know blame Canada and be picking on him But you guys are providing them as the show a piece of fabric and a handful of pins are offering an increased sense of safety for some students at Dalhousie University The Nova Scotia Public Interest Research Group has partnered with the Dalhousie Student Union to provide emergency hijab kits at various locations on campus. Amina Abawaji is the president of Dalhousie Student Union. Abawaji is Muslim and wears a hijab. She says the project is already having an impact.

2:32:32 I've already heard a lot of really positive feedback from the community, that they are feeling really appreciated and seen, that their concerns are actually being addressed in a tangible way. Personally, I do feel safer knowing that these are in places such as security. So, if there is an incident, you know, I've definitely been feeling safer. And I've heard from a lot of my friends and colleagues that they've also been appreciating that this is out there. I think supporting Muslims goes beyond having a hijab kit in your workplace or your office. Like, what are you doing for prayer times, for example? What are you doing for those who are fasting during Ramadan? Are there Muslim people in your leadership, in your workplace? So, I think that there is a lot of things that can be done. This is one way to support people, but this is definitely not the be-all and end-all.

2:33:19 I would say, you know, even checking in on the Muslim people in your life, like how are they doing, how are they feeling? There's so many things that go beyond just having the kit. So, the concept here is the hijab kit. Should you be walking through the university and someone says, hey, you Muslim and grabs your hijab, you can run, break the glass and get your emergency hijab kit so you're not exposed. What? Yes, that's what the hijab kit is. So who's going around any university anywhere grabbing hijabs? This must be happening. Not necessarily. I've never heard of such a thing. You may get some goofballs, you know, that would just like the guys that used to find, you know, there used to be this apparel that was a tube top, it's called a tube top.

2:34:14 If you were like as you know like a little kid or something you grab the tube top you just do anything with it It pops off and you get your breasts exposed We've seen these things getting popped off That's why they became unpopular because little kids would run up to a girl and just grab the thing and boy young young young Well, I'm just looking at in the book of knowledge, and I see a lot of Hijab grab self-defense techniques how to stop a grab to the hijab Hijab, grab. Who's doing this? Well, there'd be a scandal around here and I've never heard any stories. No, I don't know. It must be happening. We must not know. That's nonsense. It's not doesn't must be happening. It might be a fiction. Hmm. Well, we've got hijab kits just in case. I mean, so you get your job grabbed and instead of just

2:35:13 Going home and getting another one you can rush over to the job kit break the glass and put another one on you Then you go Really Yeah, that's really true. That's they don't have a yarmulke kits then you know This is a very good point and we also need emergency pastafarian strainers now you're talking about I'm honest. I'm on you know we can do we can demand that we can demand because they have to be equal for all religions So I think yamakas would be emergency yamaka kit. What else could we do what other religions? for Buddhists Emergency orange blanket there we go. What else it will be the sixth point that we were fired from this show Yeah, donate to this show. We will never make it in real media. I

CHAPTER 45 / 45 Discussion

FDA Warning on Poisonous Dog Treats and Outro

The show concludes with a critique of a vague CBS News report on an FDA warning regarding poisonous dog treats that have killed 15 pets. The hosts complain that the report failed to name specific brands or origins. The episode ends with a montage of clips featuring Elizabeth Warren and the show's signature "Adios, Mofos" sign-off.

fda· dog treats· pet safety· cbs news· elizabeth warren· outro

2:36:08 We'll be fired We'll be fired. I have one more if you're interested. I have one more I've got a couple more, but I only have one that's really kind of interesting It's the this is a Mormon underwear kit yes I'm oh Geez, that's the story. That's really the way to finish the show. So I was I've got a report here This is CBS Network News and I have a couple questions to ask after you play this poisonous as posing dog bone Yes, okay

2:36:51 The Food and Drug Administration has a warning for dog owners. Some bone treats could make your dog sick. These are real bones that are dried, flavored, and packaged for pets. The FDA says about 90 dogs have reportedly become ill from the treats. 15 have died. Question, and I'd like to know why they didn't bring this up. Where are these dog treats? What is the brand name? Are they from China? What is poisoning the dogs? There's nothing answered in this. This is a stupid report. It tells us nothing. Poisonous dog treats. That's interesting. Yeah, you'd think that...

2:37:32 No names were named, nothing. This was the worst. This is not reporting. This is just kind of randomly talking about something. It's unbelievable. This is CBS network. They got plenty of time to talk about Trump being a sexual predator, but they won't give us any real information when it comes to the poisonous dog treat. Yeah, I thought I was I was I was incredibly aghast. I was I was taking a back. Perturbed by that. I understand. Yeah. All right, John, it's been a long day. Yeah, no. Yeah, it has. It's been a long day. So, uh, we'll be back on Sunday. Today is a show day. You never know, anything could happen. You know, Bitcoin could be imploding as we speak. Or not. So, we, uh, we'll be back on Sunday with a fresh new deconstruction for you. Please think of us at Dvorak.org slash NA for your value for value contribution. And as always, we appreciate everything everybody does with art, with clips and information.

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