Episode 983 · Sunday, 19 November 2017

3 Belts No Road

A coordinated media pivot targets the Clinton legacy as global power shifts from the streets of Harare to the high-tech corridors of Silicon Valley.

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Senator Al Franken and the legacy of Bill Clinton face a coordinated media reassessment as the Democratic Party maneuvers to distance itself from past scandals. Kirsten Gillibrand and pundits on CNN and MSNBC lead a sudden pivot, framing the 1990s defense of Clinton as a historical error while addressing new allegations against Franken from Melanie Morgan. This strategic weaponization of harassment claims serves to clear the political stage for new leadership while navigating the complexities of the Me Too movement.

Global tensions rise as Robert Mugabe faces impeachment in Zimbabwe and China’s One Belt One Road initiative encounters resistance in Spain and Myanmar. In the United Kingdom, Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson navigates a controversial £400 million debt transfer to Iran linked to the release of aid worker Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe. Meanwhile, the tech sector faces its own reckoning as Apple fires Diversity VP Denise Young Smith over inclusion comments, and Facebook faces a massive EU privacy lawsuit led by Max Schrems in a Vienna court.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak deconstruct the "story blending" techniques at CBS News and the suspicious timing of digital media layoffs at BuzzFeed and Vice. The duo performs a formal knighting ceremony for Sir Fox Bat the Crypto Knight and Sir Tarheel while mocking a Canadian pot dealer’s demand for government compensation. The session concludes with a look at Vladimir Putin’s $3 billion bridge to Crimea and the decline of the luxury diamond market at Sotheby’s.


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CHAPTER 01 / 43 Discussion

No Agenda Episode 978 Introduction and Media Assassination

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open No Agenda episode 978, broadcasting from Austin, Texas, and Northern Silicon Valley. The hosts exchange banter regarding a classic movie poster for "The Man Who Watched the Trains Go By" and set the stage for the day's media deconstruction. They introduce the "sexual harassment" jingle as a recurring theme for the upcoming segments.

adam curry· john c dvorak· austin· silicon valley· media assassination

00:00 Oh yeah, my mama lives in the same house we live in. Adam Curry, John C. DeVore. It's Sunday November 19th 2017 this is your award-winning Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 9 or 8 This Is No Agenda Turning your dollar edge worldwide into greenbacks and broadcasting live from downtown Austin, Tejas. Capital of the drone star state in the Cluedio In The Morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where there's nothing really going on... ...I think i'm gonna take a vacation. I'm John C. DeBora. There is no such thing as a vacation in our business. And I mentioned- I missed a Zephyr. I tweeted you a nice picture of a classic movie did you see that?

00:46 The movie is... it was a nice cover of the movie, of the film poster. The man who watched the trains go by Yeah no I saw that Okay then why did you say no? Because i don't know what you were talking about Ah okay well you mentioned this It was awhile ago wasn't like he just tweeted it this morning Okay we're in a fine mood aren't we yeah What are you being accused of groping? Uh curiously if you want to start there Only under one condition Okay, we play the jingle and now it's time for your sexual harassment Lots of women who liked it a lot John they liked the jingle I like to jingle. It's good I think men like to jingle too no sexist finally have a female voice on this show So nice if you have that you got karma voices played probably more than anything else true true But you know what? I mean in a jingle form

CHAPTER 02 / 43 Discussion

Al Franken Sexual Harassment Allegations and Media Framing

Senator Al Franken faces mounting allegations of sexual misconduct, including a new claim from former Bay Area radio host Melanie Morgan regarding persistent harassing phone calls in 2000. The discussion contrasts the media's framing of Franken's "mock groping" of Leeann Tweeden during a USO tour versus how similar actions by Republicans would be reported. Analysis focuses on the "alternate universe" of media defense where forced kisses are minimized as rehearsed skits.

al franken· melanie morgan· leeann tweeden· uso tour· sexual harassment

01:45 Yes, we need more women jinglers. Hello! Are you a jingler? Sign up! So there's a little story that is not going to get a lot of... because they're really going out their way to protect Franken. Yes, and it's so obvious that this was going to happen. We were pretty much ready for it I have quite a slew of examples you can imagine It is almost like we need to take a trip to the alternative universe. I don't want to do it because it makes me nauseous But that it truly is two sides of the same coin what's going on now. It's really, really fascinating to watch. Well the funny thing about Franken is that like all these other guys I would say...I would put him in the category of Bill Cosby where at first there's nothing and then there's one

02:34 And then there's a couple, but they've been doing their best to repress them. But we do have a local story because it involved the local person one of our... One of the talk show people and it's I don't have the clip list in front of me but it's a clip that should just have Franken's name on it and Melanie Morgan. Okay? Nope! Oh no, it's another Franken victim? Is that it maybe? Another Franken victim and this is a local girl. While she sleeps And the second woman accused Franken of harassment today Former Bay Area radio host Melanie Morgan spoke out today saying Franken wouldn't stop calling her after they debated on The Bill Maher Show

03:17 It was three days worth of phone calls that took place and finally the last time that he called I said if you call me one more time, I am calling and I am going to make a harassment complaint against you. Morgan says the incident happened in the year 2000 she says he got her phone number from a producer on the show Morgan says the incident quote frightened her half-to-death You know I saw her on Laura Ingram show. I'm not a big fan of Laura Ingram necessarily, but she was on... Oh! There's a new accuser so and I watched. She was a dick to him on this show he was a dick to her and then what he wanted to be right that's what it was about. It wasn't necessary unless that's a tactic you know seems a little odd. Well during that period she is pretty good-looking

04:10 I'm not mistaken. Yeah, yeah, it's 15 years or 16 to 20 years ago. Yeah It wasn't sexual harassment would he be calling her to say you know? It's a TV show does he take it He's a comic and as the TV show he's not gonna be calling her over and over well You know correct some error. Yeah, I think that um He might be one of those people who's just so pissed when he doesn't get his way that he just goes out of his way to have someone say, okay. I don't think it... Look it doesn't matter. It's creepy but the thing that really put me in the alternate universe is you know the focus on the picture much less on the forceful kiss which is what I find really offensive. I can see the funny and what he did you know? It's inappropriate but here's how its explained

05:01 in Dimension A. She says that he wrote a part into their skit that required him to kiss her and then he tried to rehearse the kiss backstage, but it made her uncomfortable and then she noticed no mention of the tongue down or throat jab to rehearse the kiss backstage that made her uncomfortable And then she also published a picture That was given to her her asleep with Senator Franken mock groping her. So it is... Mock groping? Oh, okay I see it's mock groping and this was a written scene. This sounds like you mentioned B to me! I'm sorry I meant A-B whatever we straddle here's another example in a nutshell she says she was on this USO tour that out

05:46 while frankin wrote, he was a comedian then not a senator. Wrote into the script that they should kiss tried to get her to rehearse it it was uncomfortable she avoided him after that and then he took a picture which his office now says is a joke uh... that showed him potentially no actually groping but mock-groping her while she was asleep okay oh thats fine mock groping is ok I just go up to some random woman and grab her breasts and say, hey. Hey, it was just mocking. Just mock groping. Okay? Mock groping. It's really...I mean that is what's disturbing because you know that if it was because it's all politicized, if it was a Republican he would have been a douchebag and he's got to get out so everybody...and I think they know that themselves too. It's gotta be

CHAPTER 03 / 43 Discussion

Bill Clinton Sexual Misconduct Reassessment and Media Spectrum

Media outlets begin a concerted effort to reassess Bill Clinton's history of sexual misconduct allegations as a means to distance the Democratic Party from Hillary Clinton. A CNN panel featuring a former Clinton campaign director discusses a "spectrum" of behavior, placing Clinton and Al Franken on a different level than Harvey Weinstein. The hosts argue this sudden media pivot is a strategic "weaponization" of harassment claims to clear the political stage.

bill clinton· hillary clinton· harvey weinstein· roy moore· cnn

06:38 It's just gotta be. I don't think they know that, and you know there is really weird stuff happening now Bill Clinton is being brought up again and... I have the Clinton clips Okay alright I got one but you seem to have a little puck out of it By the way before we play any of these Bill Clinton clip this is an attack on Hillary because they're still trying to get her out of the picture. She won't go away, she's like a bad penny. Yes. She refuses to guest in your house and won't leave. And so they've decided now what are we going to do? I think they actually do have a meeting that almost comes down to what are we gonna do now? I think if we go after Bill

07:22 Bill will have some influence on her because apparently she's not listening to us. Which one do you want to start with? Well, why don't you play yours right off Oh well okay I have... Alright hold on a second We'll start then with CNN panel of women Ah good yeah I got a CBS and a Fox so we can see that this is a concerted effort by the entire media Yeah what i need to do though is I need to start with Former, former note former because you'll hear that she's not so former because she's everywhere. Director of progressive media for the Clinton campaign and I just want you to hear her first on Franken then we'll come back to hers in the panel with other CNN women. In this new groundswell... Oops! This one I meant. Should we be talking about Bill Clinton right now? No, I don't think we should be talking about Bill Clinton. I think that there were plenty of feminists at

08:21 Those allegations were happening that we're having this conversation. We're having right now, but at the time we weren't really listening to feminists We thought they were sort of outliers and the conversation about the cultural shift conversation I knew you'd like this outliers just outliers What yeah? Yeah the time don't you remember oh my god We thought they were sort of outliers and the conversation about the cultural shift in terms of the power dynamic and abuses of power, those were conversations that weren't a part of mainstream. I do think it's important to prospect- It almost sounds like you're giving Bill Clinton a pass? I'm not giving him a pass! The reason why we are having this conversation about Bill Clinton is because the current

09:05 president has been accused by over a dozen women of inappropriate sexual behavior and he is in office right now. And so I think that he's the catalyst for this entire conversation, and we need to understand this in sort of a more comprehensive way it's a spectrum of behavior on the one end of the spectrum, the more severe end, are the Harvey Weinstein's of the world Bill Cosby's of the world Roy Moore right? At other ends you have That's 40 years ago. If we're gonna go into this sort of thing, well that was then and this is now why is Roy Moore even brought into the conversation? That was 40 years ago! Right?! And at the other end of the spectrum you have street harassment and you have Al Franken and you have more benign behaviors that are traumatizing to women but not necessarily criminal and so I think that we have to understand

10:01 All women have these experiences. All women have been victims of harassment, but at different ends of the spectrum." Okay so it's a spectrum now that's what you have to understand it's a spectrum. I like that Let me ask you question if you forcibly Say you're gonna kiss someone, rehearse sketch or not and then you do it and then you stick your tongue in their throat. Is that not almost assault AND battery? I think so How about if you grab someone by the pussy You know if he was a better looking guy He never said that HE grabbed anyone by the pussy He says YOU CAN grab them by the pussy Yes correct but that has changed

CHAPTER 04 / 43 Discussion

Monica Lewinsky Scandal and Media Double Standards

CNN's Brooke Baldwin and various pundits debate the nature of the Monica Lewinsky scandal, with some characterizing it as a consensual affair rather than an abuse of power. The discussion touches on the $850,000 settlement paid to Paula Jones, which a commentator erroneously refers to as "payola." Critics argue that Hillary Clinton's past efforts to discredit her husband's accusers complicate the modern "believe all women" narrative.

monica lewinsky· paula jones· bill clinton· brooke baldwin· cnn

10:36 That's not how it was remembered anymore. Now we're going to go to the CNN panel, I think Brooke Baldwin was leading it again, the former progressive media director...I don't think she is former anymore. She's the anti-boobs woman! Brooke is, yeah. Brooke's the anti-boob woman. Yeah she hates boobs. Clinton paid to Paula Jones. I forget who this is, but this is the woman who's making a big mistake on CNN right now for sexual harassment she only asked for $700,000 but she got eight hundred fifty thousand dollars from Bill Clinton that was payola he didn't admit guilt but why would you pay 850k?

11:24 Payola, I refer specifically to the music industry. Yeah pay off is the word she's looking for and she's an idiot like most people on television Hey Ola He didn't admit guilt But why would you pay in her $50,000 unless you were doing something wrong? And this was not just hurt it was case after case after case and Hillary Clinton. Why are you mumbling away there? I just can't, this use of the word payola is just unbelievable to me. Well you know that Brooke immediately after she's done with a little soliloquy said that's not payola Oh wait, no she didn't. I'm sorry. Case after case after case and Hillary Clinton she's victim shame you want to talk about listening to women? She called Monica Lewinsky who was an intern at the time... I have a problem with blaming the woman for the man's behavior. Wait a second. It is not fair to do that. Now the former director comes in. You should listen to the women. Yes yes but blaming Hillary Clinton in conversation about Bill Clinton's behavior is not appropriate.

12:23 the men's choices and the men's behavior. And all men need to reflect upon their behavior, not just famous ones and not just politicians. It is a cultural problem, it is something that we should put on Hillary Clinton shoulders. I'm not putting it on her shoulders. She lost to Trump! Hillary Clinton went after Lewinsky called her bimbo- Wait a second... It's terrible. You can't have out and you can understand a word anyone saying they're all talking over each other, but they're going to get into it though. Monica Lewinsky sex scandal was an affair

13:01 with somebody that was of age, Monica Lewinsky. Lewinsky has never been an accuser she has never since the time not back then not since then ever said that he did this to me it was unwanted I didn't want to get touched I mean she's not an accuser so now we're gonna step in and on her behalf accuse him of some misconduct. She is a marital affair that is not illegal It might be immoral Oh hold on! That's not true In Texas its illegal for sure It's illegal to what? Copulation outside of the marriage. It's a divorceable offense there in Washington, D.C..

CHAPTER 05 / 43 Discussion

Political Weaponization of Sexual Harassment Allegations

Pundits on MSNBC and CNN discuss the partisan divide in reporting sexual predators, accusing Fox News of focusing solely on Democratic offenders. The hosts analyze Mitch McConnell's call for an ethics investigation into Al Franken, questioning the sincerity of political leaders who only "believe the women" when it serves their electoral interests. The segment highlights the cynical use of harassment claims as a political tool.

donald trump· mitch mcconnell· sean hannity· fox news· partisan politics

13:38 Oh, everything goes there. Yeah they don't want to talk about the power structure that she was an intern Then we have, I mean they were out in full force because you're right. I completely concur that this was the attack on Hillary through Bill and Hillary through everybody out there former Hillary Clinton aide Jennifer Palmer on MSNBC. I want to bring you in Jen on this specific question of for Donald Trump's for Sean Hannity for a few other select spots on Fox being a partisan issue where they go wall-to-wall

14:31 Isn't this amazing? The blindness or color, tone deafness of these people. who are accusing rightly Fox News of highlighting Democratic predators, whereas CNN is doing the exact opposite. Does no one see this? ages 14 to 28, every last one of them in incredibly vulnerable positions. He was in his early 30s that doesn't justify the same kind of scrutiny and for Donald Trump at least the same kind of Twitter attention and as Eli said cutesy-pootsy nicknames as a Democrat yeah it's like a weaponization political weaponization of sexual harassment

15:30 And it's just the height of cynicism and it's not, you know honestly that is what I would expect from Donald Trump. So let's talk more about Trump being a douchebag. But it's not just them its Mitch McConnell who was very quick to call for an ethics investigation of Senator Franklin which was appropriate thing to do but he wasn't sincere in doing that. Well if it's appropriate thing to do then what are you bitching about? But he was not sincere in doing that. He was trying to put Democrats on the bus. Mitch McConnell is interesting because he also was the first big national Republican figure to say these words, I believe the women about Roy Moore's accusers. You know what this now sounds like? It kind of hit me...

16:13 It sounds like, just think it's a different topic but it sounds like every technology, every tech podcast. I believe, I think, I know eh-eeh eh-ooh ooh ehh oooh You know what I mean? They didn't put a time note down. Well but I'm serious! Yeah, it's people just talking through their ass. Yeah and no place to do that or no better place to do that than the Bill Maher show which is my final clip. And by the way I want to congratulate you for tricking me into playing this one clip for the last 10 minutes and its actually a series of clips leading to the one clip very coy continue

CHAPTER 06 / 43 Discussion

Bill Maher and Chelsea Handler Debate Clinton Legacy

Chelsea Handler and Bill Maher discuss the necessity of re-examining rape allegations made by Juanita Broaddrick against Bill Clinton. The conversation links the 1990s defense of Clinton by feminists to the Anita Hill and Clarence Thomas hearings, suggesting that political expediency derailed the conversation on sexual harassment for decades. The panel concludes that the stakes are higher with Donald Trump, yet Clinton's past remains a crucial part of the cultural shift.

bill maher· chelsea handler· juanita broaddrick· anita hill· clarence thomas

16:58 I didn't mean to trick you. I'm sorry, continue on the show some that some author she wrote a book about, I guess how horrible men are Bernstein's on the show and Chelsea Handler who I used to like a lot. I used to watch her show and I never liked it. I never liked it because she was I know people that network and they know too much. I guess I shouldn't have good. Never mind But I never liked her and i don't think she's funny. Well, she became very unfunny more than a year ago kind of when she went from E to her Netflix show and you know she's off the air otherwise I'm sure with her sexual proclivity she would have been outed by someone somewhere... She's a wild one but listen to this exchange

17:50 And again, it's about Bill Clinton among others with Bill Maher and guests. What about Bill Clinton? Chelsea you tweeted imagine being molested by an older man then that man denies ever doing it and then goes on and gets elected to the United States Senate and Juanita Broderick tweeted back, yeah Chelsea Handler I can imagine and goes into how she says she was raped by Bill Clinton. But see unlike the right you then said oh you have a point. I say i'm so sorry I apologize every first of all every victim deserves to be heard you know anyone who's alleging any sort of assault or abuse needs to be listened to. You can't discount it. So do we have to relook at Bill Clinton?

18:32 Do we have to go back to look at Bill Clinton? I mean, isn't the jury out on that. We got what Bill Clinton was okay he had a lot of sex with a lot people and yeah... Well thats..we know but now were talking about forced sex which is a crime Right! You're right do we have to go back and look at that yes i'm not going just believe in women im a woman and it's my job right now where in area where we have to believe every woman because we've done such poor job believing each other Oh ok One of the reasons One of the reasons that I think it is crucial that we go back as part of this conversation and look at Bill Clinton is because the timing of what happened with Bill Clinton was really crucial to the development of this conversation about sexual harassment. It was right after the Anita Hill hearings in which that term sexual harassment and what it meant to women as a class, the way that this behavior disadvantaged them economically and professionally... Which reminds me because I only witnessed that you know just says I was very young at the time well not very I'd be much younger

19:32 This is the long dong silver Clarence Thomas. He was making kind of pubic hair on the Coke can, he didn't actually touch her or anything but he was very rude and wasn't it John Kerry? Was it Kerry who ran that entire Senate investigation? I don't remember yeah you know, Thomas clearly conservative and then lo and behold right after that we like ah okay we're gonna get those Democrats let's go uh let's out Clinton as a douchebag. So this has been going on forever almost done came into the lexicon and feminists made this point even though Clarence Thomas was

20:07 Thomas was appointed to the Supreme Court despite being accused of sexual harassment by Anita Hill. And then immediately after, Bill Clinton is elected president and there is because he's better for feminist policy than the 12 years of...and this is the politics you're talking about. And because there is a... Wait a minute! Twelve years what? What is she saying? I have no idea what she's talking about the twelve years Because it was Bush for four and who was before Bush Senior? Reagan Okay, but people loved him didn't they even didn't Democrats even love him who Reagan? Yeah. They reluctantly Said nothing days reluctantly and didn't go after them because they were apparently over match They did nobody nobody no Democrat loved Reagan No matter what they say now apparently was how that he's dead And this is the politics you're talking about and because there is a right-wing attack on him and those things are simultaneously true There is a left feminist defense of Bill Clinton's power

21:05 abuse with regard to Monica Lewinsky and that derails the clarification of the conversation around sexual harassment. So chronologically before we even get to whether we believe Juanita Broderick there is a derailment in that conversation in the 90's when the left is moved to defend Bill Clinton right after we've just talked about what sexual harassment means. So it's important to go back and talk about him on the other hand, We can't just make this about Bill Clinton and not the guy who's currently in the White House wants to be in the Senate, not the people who are in the Senate right now. Frankly, the stakes are higher with Trump than the white house. Great discussion I appreciate it. Yeah great bill clinton was a rapist

CHAPTER 08 / 43 Discussion

Kirsten Gillibrand and the Democratic Pivot on Bill Clinton

Senator Kirsten Gillibrand states that Bill Clinton should have resigned following the Monica Lewinsky scandal, signaling a major shift in Democratic Party loyalty. The hosts speculate that big-money donors like George Soros may be behind this pivot to prevent Hillary Clinton from running for president again in 2020. They analyze how the "Me Too" movement is being redirected toward the Clintons to refresh the party's image.

kirsten gillibrand· bill clinton· george soros· me too· hillary clinton

25:01 After that clip clip a thon beauty okay, so let's play my two lone clips. I'm sorry which are the two examples which I put by night Turn that Bill Clinton on the chopping block because he's only on the chopping block. This is only coming out, did they make it look like it's about Trump? But it's not! It's about Hillary and getting her off this stage They can't seem to get rid of this woman and they do not want her running for president for a third time and failing again Right But they're going to be stuck with that if they can't get her off the stage and they can seem to do it. So, they're gonna work on Bill. Let's start with the CBS version. Sitting with Canada Trump Juanita Broderick spoke to the press ahead of the second presidential debate. Bill Clinton raped me and Hillary Clinton threatened me

25:53 I don't think there's any comparison. The national debate over sexual misconduct has led to a reassessment of Mr Clinton's behavior an investigation of sexual harassment claims eventually led to his impeachment when he lied under oath about his affair with White House intern Monica Lewinsky. I misled people including even my wife. I deeply regret that." One prominent Senate Democrat, Kirsten Gillibrand of New York was asked if in today's context Mr. Clinton should have stepped down? Yes! That is the appropriate response but

26:31 I think things have changed today and under those circumstances there should be a very different reaction. Back to this White House, Press Secretary Sarah Sanders said today the President has addressed the Moore allegations he has not. The official White House position is they are quote extremely troubling but it's up to voters of Alabama if Moore, the Republican nominee is fit for office Anthony, Major Garrett at the White House. Today the Moore campaign brought out a group of female supporters including the candidate's wife. And now this Gillibrand is she Republican or Democrat? She's a Democrat Ah so she somehow was co-opted into uh... the plan to relaunch the hashtag MeToo against Bill

27:16 Yeah. Oh, very interesting. Somewhere along the line I wonder who is... We've highlighted her on the show before but yeah I'm just wondering you know who's the big money behind this? Who's really pushing it? Sorrows! Yeah what am i thinking stupid of course He hates Putin and he hates Clinton. Well, he hates her now because she failed him! Yeah if she would have won it'd be big time supporter but no... And he knows that you can't- She looks like she wants to run again? She's got the machine? She could run again? She's got the women vote or whatever there is left of it I don't know but the face bag is kind of iffy about it Yes and why do you think that is? It's because they've been going after her Facebag is a good barometer Yep yep

CHAPTER 09 / 43 Discussion

Media Reckoning of 1990s Feminist Defense of Clinton

Mainstream outlets like Vox, The New York Times, and The Atlantic publish retrospectives admitting that feminists were on the "wrong side of history" by defending Bill Clinton in the 1990s. Judge Jeanine Pirro highlights these headlines on Fox News, noting the orchestrated nature of the media's sudden "reckoning." The hosts observe that even Vox is now facing its own internal allegations of being a predatory workplace.

vox· the atlantic· new york times· judge jeanine· bill clinton

28:04 Yeah, none of them really want her. None of these slams against Hillary and slams against now Bill... No they're all asking for Elizabeth Warren that's who they are even though she agreed that it was a big scam the primaries they still want Elizabeth Warren to run They think she is the mag daddy which is fine by me That'd be funny I'm just thinking entertainment value. Oh, Delat's in it because she goes after Trump. She actually gets his goat. Yeah the republic runs itself president or no president i don't think it matters all right so let's play the now here's this is a fox version which would be more extreme uh again using bill as the whipping boy to go after hillary

28:46 This comes as many on the left and members in the media are finally starting to admit that sexual misconduct allegations against President Bill Clinton were dismissed and downplayed, and that Clinton's accusers were widely attacked and discredited. Look at a couple of these headlines. Vox, Bill Clinton should have resigned what he did to Monica Lewinsky was wrong and he should have paid the price. From The New York Times, what about Bill? Sexual misconduct debate revives questions about Clinton

29:23 And from the Atlantic, Bill Clinton. A reckoning. Feminists saved the 42nd President of the United States in the 1990s They were on the wrong side of history Is it finally time to make things right? This is a major change from what we've seen as recently as a 2016 campaign Look at how the media attacked Clinton's accusers back then A trio of women who say Bill Clinton made unwanted sexual advances in the 80s and 90s. Mr. Clinton denies it, two of the cases were plagued by factual discrepancies when it was Bill Clinton's problem almost in the moment Republicans tried to make an issue and it didn't work

30:10 Why is he gonna work 20 years later with his wife? I just don't see it. And the issue of Bill Clinton's past, is that fair game and... It would be if he were running for president but he isn't Hillary Clinton is running for president The biggest issue- I would like to apologize to those tramps that have slept with my husband Maybe she could've said that Bomb them, bomb them and bomb them again I love Judge Nene. So she brought a lot of these old clips and also brought out the show that The Big Guns, The New York Times Atlantic and all these characters are Vox are all going after Bill all at the same time this is happening all at once it's orchestrated But also we're seeing things Vox itself being accused of being one big predatory mosh pit Well if it's a webs operation I'm sure it is

CHAPTER 10 / 43 Discussion

Jeffrey Tambor, TED Talks, and Gene Simmons Allegations

The "Me Too" wave expands to include Amazon's Jeffrey Tambor, Ryan Seacrest, and the elite TED conference, which is described as a hostile environment for women. Adam Curry shares a personal anecdote from his MTV days involving Gene Simmons of KISS, who allegedly wore knee pads to a music meeting and made crude jokes to get a record into rotation. The hosts categorize these behaviors as "douchey" rather than criminal.

jeffrey tambor· ryan seacrest· gene simmons· ted talks· mtv

31:04 Yeah, we have now continue of course Jeffrey Tambor. We know What I thought was really fast Jeffrey Tambor Perfect Amazon streaming services there's your target yeah Ryan Seacrest Oh, I didn't know this yes by former stylist oh Yes, yeah he denies these reckless allegations we have The TED talks was my favorite Apparently, the douchebag elitist TED talk, TED conference... not the TEDx! No no. The real one that you pay 10 grand for is just filled with douchebags so bad that women don't even want to go anymore

31:51 I mean, we're talking about jump pouncing on women cornering them pushing him up against the wall and senior tech people rubbing their mashing their hard-ons against women. It's disgusting. It's totally disgusting and you know that that's exactly the people who are doing this stuff because they've lost all control of reality I've seen this, i've seen it You've seen it? I've seen tons of it Douchebags Unbelievable The funny one though is Gene Simmons Yeah That one kind of surprises me Isn't Gene Simmons married to Shannon Tweed? The former Playboy Of the year Yeah but you see he's not

32:36 being accused of anything other than being incredibly douchey and I have my own story about that because you know he He basically is just rude, and I guess he what do you be was in for the Fox Fox business news? Studios or whatever this news to me any offended members of the team And so he ups it by saying, hey chick sue me. But here's the thing... Hey chick sue you! I'll tell ya this is Gene Simmons anyone who has met Gene Simmons for five minutes knows that this guy is like this and It's funny He used to come into the weekly music meetings at MTV when um..he was producing- what was he producing? I mean he was producing somebody wasn't a Kiss record

33:21 And at the time, I was the only VJ in the music meeting. This is where the payola occurred! Although I didn't see any... and he comes in with knee pads on jumps up on the table says who do I have to blow to get this thing on the air? It's like that was Gene All right man and you know what you know they put it in rotation That's how it works baby You know it So it's very effective, his harassment on the spectrum. His shtick! Yeah and then a little update on Kevin Spacey from Gitmo Nation GMT Is this Carl Sagan? Who is this announcer?! That's Euro News... yeah

CHAPTER 11 / 43 Discussion

Kevin Spacey Investigation at The Old Vic Theater

The Old Vic theater in London concludes an investigation into Kevin Spacey, identifying 20 counts of alleged inappropriate behavior between 1995 and 2013. The theater attributes the silence of victims to a "cult of personality" surrounding Spacey during his tenure as artistic director. The hosts discuss Spacey's impact on the theater's prosperity and speculate on whether his move to streaming services like Netflix made him a target for the traditional industry.

kevin spacey· the old vic· london· house of cards· roberto cavazos

34:11 Those guys, there's a lot of work for us on Euronews if we need anything. This is bad. The Old Vic says it couldn't verify any of the claims and wouldn't share specific details but a law firm hired to conduct the investigation says 14 of the men were encouraged to go to the police. Much has changed at The Old Vic in recent years and we will continue to work to model and safeguard the open culture that we want The Old Vic to be known for Actor Roberto Cavazos claimed two weeks ago that Spacey had behaved inappropriately toward him when they both worked there, although it's not known whether Cavazos is one of the men listed in the findings. The House of Cards actor hasn't commented publicly about Cavazos' claim or any misconduct connected to the old Vic. A statement from the theater says they believe Spacey star status led to a quote

35:01 cult of personality around him, who worked there between 1995 and 2013. Which may have led to junior staff or younger actors feeling they couldn't speak out. The theater also reported that they'd asked Spacey to participate in their investigation but received no response from him. Reuters hasn't been able to verify any of the claims against Spacey and his lawyer didn't immediately respond to requests for comment. The last statement from his representatives two weeks ago said he was seeking treatment." Now, I'd love that last little bit listen to it this is this guy is a member of the gays and that's a very specific group of homosexual oriented men

35:44 Listen to the disdain when he says treatment. From his representatives two weeks ago said he was seeking treatment Treatment right they hate him They hate him, they hate him! They do The gays hate spacey because as they said He was not a good gay Not a good gay in Hollywood Nope Well I don't know what's going to happen now there has been some news about his abusive dad It was a Nazi apparently. Wait, wait... Spacey's dead? Yeah beat the kids of supporter of Hitler no way yeah Coming out there trying to know here's what's going I think is what's going on with spacey He is a huge loss to the artistic community as an actor and he saved the old Vic

36:41 Really? He went there in 95. It was you know, just another piece of crap it was a falling apart theater that was replaced by the new Vic and The old Vic was still there but it was you know Just what's falling on hard times didn't have he wasn't making any serious money wasn't choosing the right plays It would had all these issues. He became the director the thing became very prosperous He was almost their 20 years and it's way spent most of his time working there And you know I guess banging a bunch of dudes in England. And, but it was, you know, it was a positive, it was a benefit. I mean nobody was complaining at the time. Oh yeah he came on to me and anyone can say no, I'm sure oh I felt obligated because he was a cult of personality anyway so he did good work

37:35 Now he can't, he's not there anymore. He hasn't been there since 2013 anyway and then you know he started off the streaming thing which is a One of our theories is that's the reason they're going after him to begin with. He started, made it happen with House of Cards a huge target on his back after that and then he's a fun actor everyone has enjoyed his work I've liked all the stuff he's ever done. He plays nutball very well. Although you never got into House of Cards You were never into that The first year I watched it religiously. Oh, okay one year then yeah all right Yeah and then i watched a couple episodes say wait a minute see the problem I had with that show You could almost say the same thing about The Wire It was designed for one season Right and that became such a big hit The Wire was the worst case example because if you watch The Wire six seasons five seasons The wire was the first season was absolute dynamite And it actually ended

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The Wire and House of Cards Series Longevity

A discussion on television quality focuses on "The Wire" and "House of Cards," with the hosts arguing that both shows were narratively designed for a single season. They criticize the "shoehorning" of subsequent seasons for financial gain, which they believe diluted the original impact of the stories. This leads to a brief mention of Jeffrey Tambor's "method acting" defense regarding his own misconduct allegations.

the wire· house of cards· netflix· hbo· television writing

38:35 It ended. If you watch the first season, it's over at the end of that series and then they...it was such a hit. It wasn't a monster but it was a big hit and these critics loved it. They shoehorned his second season which was crap but it was still good enough. Money in the bank baby! Yeah then it was good to do a third season which got him back on track and finished pretty well but this second seasons is joke I felt that what gonna happen with The House of Cards and I wasn't going to watch Someone lost interest someone had tweeted us I've been scrolling through the tweeters because I thought I'd save you to say the article or at least the tweet that there was another on-demand show that was being taken down in the Hashtag me too. Did you see that because you were copied on it? In fact, you got props for it. I don't remember hmm Scrolling here. I can't remember what that was

39:32 Because it's there were there were two or three other ones that somebody did point out said this and this and this they're all you know targets right but um yeah well it's uh, It's not boring. That's for sure tamp or by the way is the best case example to go after from amazon They got the netflix guy. Yeah Did you hear what he did? Well, you tell me oh He uh, he mashed his erection up against one of his One of his colleagues, colleague actors. A trans woman with a penis and I guess he's getting turned on by the whole role Maybe it's method acting? I don't know could be It's possible! That would be my defense And she was hot! That's gonna make you wonder who is going to play Harvey Weinstein in the movie Who would look good? Billy Joel comes to mind He's ugly enough

40:34 Yeah? I don't know. This whole thing is actually, in a callous way or sick way... Misogynist way, I'm not sure what it is but there's some some element of humor that is irresistible in this whole thing Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah now the fact it I know Tambor's getting he's getting it from all sides to and yeah No kidding. That's what she's mashing so I didn't know he was a masher. Oh my god got mashers and flashers mashers and flashers

CHAPTER 13 / 43 Discussion

CBS News Blending Jared Kushner with Sex Scandals

The hosts criticize CBS News for a "story blending" technique where a report on Jared Kushner's "Russian backdoor overture" is placed immediately adjacent to sexual harassment stories. They argue this is a subliminal attempt to associate the Trump administration with "freaky perverts" through guilt by association. The segment includes a critique of the historical ties between the CIA and major networks like CBS under Bill Paley.

cbs news· jared kushner· russian backdoor· steele dossier· media bias

41:14 Well, that time is upon us once again. John I presume we're done with our sexual harassment updates? Well no, I have one more. Oh oh sorry! Yes good This is the example of... CBS has been doing this a lot This is the sex scandal and this is just a clip mostly of the segue But there's because there is no segway They've taken the CBS takes to the sex scandal stories they run them together and then They do what they, we've done this show on the show before. They drop in something that's got nothing to do with the sex scandals as though it is part of the story. Now is this what you call the whip saw or? No no the whipsaw is where you exemplify something with a wrong clip. This is another, this is the story blending I call it but

42:05 This is a good example. Meanwhile, the Senate Judiciary Committee is requesting documents from President Trump's advisor and son-in-law Jared Kushner related to a quote Russian backdoor overture and dinner invite during the campaign. Wow! Yeah Well it... The only thing I can think of is in the Steele dossier there was talk of um Jared being a cuck

42:51 But a real one, not just submissive to his wife. What's that got to do with these sex stories? Because it's a sex story! Yes but they don't say that Well no its subliminal What else could it be? It makes no sense otherwise. Maybe it's, I don't know... No, none of this makes sense they have been doing this over and over again. I had another example a couple shows ago and I keep seeing where they're talking about one thing and they do it's a guilt by association thing let's talk about all these Freaky perverts and now let's mention Jared Kushner. Yeah, maybe or maybe there is that element I think possible I think so but but there was actually something else in it does not belong in this story No

43:37 There was something at the end that was also sexual. This whole report is very, very sketchy. Trump's advisor and son-in-law Jared Kushner related to a quote Russian backdoor overture and dinner invite during... A back door overture? I don't know John. They're on... A Russian back door overture no less huh write that down. Yeah Russian bears! Hey comrade, I'm liking your butt. Very good. Backdoor overture. Nice. All I know is that as far as I am concerned this is not a proper way to do anything. This... throwing those two stories together it's just not right. No, and this was CBS?

44:24 The Tiffany Network? Yes, CBS does that most of the time. Walter Cronkite rolls over in his grave No he doesn't. No! He was part of this whole thing That was the era when they gave it over to the CIA if you remember reading it in the 1970's story by... Well who was it before then? Bill Paley Yeah Bill Paley is a guy who did it and thought it was cool to be as part of the agency Alright, I want to do a little one belt one road update This is part of my beat. I'm just looking at the map and if you haven't seen this before, Silkroad.noagendanotes.com You can look at the maps...you can see the economic belt, the maritime belt, the train belt And the following three countries have a lot of crap going on in them and they're very important for the Chinese strategy. So since this is your beat? Yes

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China's One Belt One Road Initiative and Global Unrest

The "One Belt, One Road" initiative faces geopolitical hurdles as unrest grows in key strategic locations. In Spain, the sudden death of Attorney General Jose Manuel Maza impacts the Catalonia separatist case, while in Myanmar, Human Rights Watch releases a video accusing security forces of widespread sexual violence. The hosts analyze these events as potential efforts to thwart Chinese economic expansion through the maritime and rail belts.

china· one belt one road· catalonia· myanmar· human rights watch

45:25 What's the name of the initiative? One Belt, One Road. You just named four belts! I did? Yeah. Rail belt... The Maritime belt... Economic belt... Walking on your hands belt... There are a bunch of different belts. That is a very good point! And what about there is no one belt and where is the road?! There is no road and no one belt! You know, I'm going to give you a point! That is excellent! Crazy Chinese. Alright, so the idea is we want to stop this Somebody wants to stop this I look at Tillerson and think he's the guy who would know about this but it could be a very different group...I don't know

46:13 But it is coincidental. So we need to continue with all kinds of crazy stuff going on in Catalonia, in Spain. Spain's top prosecutor who spearheaded the case against Catalonia separatist leaders has died suddenly Attorney General Jose Manuel Maza who was 66 was on a working visit to Argentina when he took ill. He said to have died in a hospital in Buenos Aires after being admitted for an infection Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy has led tributes taking to Twitter to express his condolences and recognition and gratitude for

46:49 life of work at the service of the state. Jose Manuel Mather called for charges to be brought against Catalan independence leaders including ousted president Carles Puigdemont who's fighting extradition from Belgium where he sought refuge, four former members of his government with him in Brussels also face charges while eight others are already behind bars in pretrial custody in Spain accused of rebellion and sedition Okay, so this is heating up again a little bit even though it dropped off the radar So we need to keep Catalonia and Spain in tension because the Chinese don't want to pass even and even though they're one of their many belts or non roads goes near Catalonia The Chinese only man. We know money. We know any hassle that's not in their charter next we go to Myanmar which is a major

47:43 point on the non-road version, the maritime belt and well we have one of our favorite Soros non governmental organizations to whom which he gave 100 million dollars a couple years ago. Human Rights Watch complaining about it now so they're being activated so we continue to have some tension there. Human Rights Watch has accused Myanmar security forces of committing widespread rape over the past three months against Muslim in the country. Rape always a fan favorite, it's really good if you want to make a country look stupid. The group spoke to 52 women and girls who fled Bangladesh 29 said they've been raped Since August 25 Burmese military have carried

48:30 carried out a campaign of ethnic cleansing against Rohingya in northern Rakhine state. The result has been humanitarian crisis of staggering speed and severity. Human Rights Watch has called on the UN to impose an arms embargo and targeted sanctions against military leaders responsible for human rights violations By the way, I wanted to mention you hear the music in this video That's because your own news and there's even a logo in it literally took this piece from Human Rights Watch Human Rights Watch produces human rights rights watch produced

49:07 piece about what they're doing. It even has their logo in the lower right hand corner as news that takes a lot of gall by the way really does chutzpah we say sanctions against military leaders responsible for human rights all it is they just provided the translation voiceover otherwise it's also stylized you can see how beautiful its shot, you know? They got the depth of field and there's money yeah actions against military leaders responsible for human rights violations One of my neighbours was a girl named Nenwaz. She was very beautiful, three of the men from the military saw her hiding and they brought her outside and one of them laid her down. They pulled up her clothes and two of them raped

49:53 After they finished raping her, the first soldier shot and killed her. I watched it happen myself Me and Ma's army have denied all allegations You know what was interesting about this interview with this woman? After she was done with that whole story about you know Raping her then killing her and then stomping on her head She did a big snake tongue Her tongue went all the way out and went back in, which as we know from CIA psychological profilers is typically a tell that someone just lied. Well she probably just lied! Yes the third one hit my tripwire

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Zimbabwe Coup and the Ousting of Robert Mugabe

Robert Mugabe, the 93-year-old president of Zimbabwe, faces impeachment and public protests demanding his resignation. The hosts note the professional quality of the protesters' signs and suggest CIA or Soros involvement in the regime change. They criticize CBS for running repetitive, highly produced segments that frame the African political transition as a celebratory event without addressing the underlying power dynamics.

robert mugabe· zimbabwe· harare· cbs news· regime change

50:39 And it makes nothing but sense. I didn't realize that this country was also a major part of the Three Belts, No Road. It's over for Mugabe just one headline on a day many in Zimbabwe are now predicting could be the president's last in power The pressure on the 93-year old, the world's oldest head of state is said to be intense with senior officials from the ruling Zanapf meeting to decide his fate. Ahead of those emergency talks, the leader of Zimbabwe war veterans Chris Mutsavangwa reportedly threatened to unleash the mob should Mugabe refused to go. Zanapf once loyal youth league has also turned against the president while on the streets of the capital Harare

51:23 The desire for change is palpable. On Saturday, thousands took part in protests calling for the president's removal. Should Mugabe refuse to go gracefully? He faces the prospect of impeachment when parliament resumes on Tuesday. I didn't need to go too far into this. I saw the professional signs at the protesters. Yeah yeah, impeachment! Why don't you shoot him?! I don't get that... Well Soros doesn't do that he likes just gets rid of them in an old-fashioned way Well there this is being played on all of all the networks to network playing it up the most yes guess which one would it be these CIA broadcasting system yeah CBS playing it and they're playing it uh-huh long

52:08 features with a lot of repetitive stuff. I watched the one they did on Wednesday, which I played on the last show was almost identical to the one they played on Saturday and on The Weeknd report with it by but they added more stuff to it and they brought the reporter onto the screen interest that it was half of it was exactly the same saying I didn't clip because it was redundant but see CBS CIA CBS is playing this thing to the hilt well they have a guy now And the way it went down, it's kind of cool to see how the Africans...how African political parties work. They sit in a little conference room and they said hey we got to get out of here this guy is new you guy you're in You know there's a handler behind him talking and then they say they start singing and clapping their hands like yeah It's all gonna be great! They have no idea what's coming down. Well so then

CHAPTER 16 / 43 Discussion

North Korea Diplomatic Maneuvers and Tourism Potential

A Chinese envoy visits Pyongyang as Donald Trump pressures China to use its influence on North Korea's nuclear program. The hosts discuss the possibility of the U.S. designating North Korea as a state sponsor of terrorism and suggest that establishing an embassy could be a more effective diplomatic tool. They envision a future where North Korea is transformed into a billboard-free tourist attraction for wealthy Westerners.

north korea· pyongyang· donald trump· china· state sponsor of terrorism

53:03 If we think about CIA being involved, then maybe they're involved with thwarting the three belt no road. They have to be would make sense. This is not you know they're not trying I mean their pro-America the way they see it and this one belt one road idea which is again three four belts no road is a threat It's a threat to the Western, it's a threat to Western Europe. It's a threat to us. It's a threat everyone. We can't even get out of our deals with China I mean you had Trump go over there next thing and now he can't get anything accomplished about well what are we gonna do? Ah well he did accomplish something check it out this is Chinese TV A Chinese presidential envoy is in Pyongyang and many are speculating North Korea's nuclear and missile programs will be on the agenda

54:01 U.S President Donald Trump is expressing hope that China will use its influence on North Korea The visit comes just days after the president's Asia tour where he made North Korea one of his top priorities of the Chinese Communist Party's International Department, Song Tao has arrived in Pyongyang. Trump took to Twitter on Thursday describing the envoys visit as a big move. The US president has repeatedly asked for China's cooperation to intensify pressure on North Korea. The outcome of the trip may influence a key decision Trump is about to make whether to name North Korea a state sponsor of terrorism

54:44 Wasn't, weren't they already a state sponsor of terrorism? Well they were one of the axis of evil. I remember that yes George HW Bush...I don't know if there are because what's but terrorism are they sponsoring Outstanding point. So that's his only leverage? I'm pretty sure he did some kind of deal, I'm pretty sure the Chinese don't give a crap. Well the Chinese... We all know you know i know your uncle knows everybody knows that until we recognize them as a legitimate country and send somebody over there maybe set up an embassy this is going to continue You know that would be a good idea

55:25 I'm just looking for what he promised, because you know he said look talk to your boy over there. Calm down a little bit we'll work on that yeah but the Chinese again as we had in the report that we played a couple shows ago they're they don't really want to see the reunification of the two Koreas because it would be in the best interest of the United States not the best sure that's why an embassy would be a really good kind of way I think an MSCB fantastic and you should write that down in the book okay that's not a bad one for the book really And you could give us that would open. Here's the way I would sell it, look we know this and it has been kind of proven by just observing what they're up to. They want to make North Korea which apparently is a beautiful place and is unencumbered by billboards and advertising whatever you want to call it

56:18 into a tourist attraction. Yes, well that's phase two that's got to be phase two Yeah But you if you're gonna have an M if you're gonna get the big money tourists Americans and Germans Into the place gotta have an embassy there gotta have an embassy yeah add that to the entry Ledger entry in The Red Book I don't have any clips yet but they're coming I think it will be El Nino and or Polar Vortex. We always seem to have a polar vortex. Yes, when it's the hottest year on record we have the polar vortex. Yeah there'll be something because its getting slammed. It's really... yeah that means we're looking like it's going to be a really harsh winter it appears

CHAPTER 17 / 43 Discussion

Polar Vortex Weather and Impersonation Grievances

Adam Curry expresses frustration over listeners sending emails to Senator Watson while impersonating him to request the senator co-host the show. This follows a discussion on the "polar vortex" being used as a disingenuous term for harsh winters. Curry also complains about being subscribed to dozens of unwanted newsletters, describing the practice as a form of "reverse doxing."

polar vortex· climate change· senator watson· email spoofing· newsletters

57:03 Yeah, how you guys everything is says rock in the Pacific Northwest with just mostly rain is Going over the Rockies and then developing into giant snow storms as whacking the East Coast. It's yeah Yeah, well luckily we have the polar and you know I had not heard of a polar vortex until well really inconvenient truth That's the first year they had to hit that has a polar vortex It just seems a little disingenuous. Yeah, I'm thinking that too And i have a programming note it's probably going to work in the opposite direction but i have a gripe i'm really tired of this uh i got an email Adam thank you for reaching out to Senator Watson about co-hosting the no agenda show with regrets he will not be able to do so could you stop doing that people

58:00 What? People keep doing stuff like sending notes to senators saying, you know as Adam Curry. Like I'm requesting this. Like I am requesting Senator Watson co-host the No Agenda Show Are you trying to get rid of me?! You're not hearing me! You've done this to me. You subscribe me like Hillary's newsletter I mean, you did it right that was a favor Thanks But you know It's like people do this all the time and they subscribe me the intelligence news briefs And I only know those because I started working another mail client unless you unsubscribe from stuff easily There's one click you want to subscribe? Yeah, give her and must have 50 newsletters that people have subscribed me too. I know that they've done it

58:46 You know, it's stuff that I'm not on those lists. Well now I'm on lists of course but it's like a reverse doc. It's not ghosting there's got to be a term for it but it's not friendly. For somebody inviting some senator to be the co-host of The Noah Jenner Show and don't even do that? And do it out in my name! Hi, I'm Adam Curry. Yes hi, I'd really love the Senator to do this show with me. Yeah right And with that, I'd like to thank you and say in the morning to you John C, where the c stands for can't replace him, Dvorak! Well...

CHAPTER 18 / 43 Discussion

No Agenda Art and Merchandise Promotion

The hosts credit Cesium 137 for the episode's artwork, which depicts Lady Justice being "mock groped." They promote the No Agenda Shop and the No Agenda Generator, highlighting the quality of the Egyptian cotton t-shirts and the fact that the shop contributes money back to the original artists.

cesium 137· no agenda shop· t-shirts· artwork· knighting

59:28 In the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground feet in the air Subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there Danny in the morning to The Troll Room noagendastream.com We also have houseoftrolls.com But this is where you go straight into The Troll Room No Agenda Stream calm and in the morning to cesium 137 he is the one who was awarded with the prestigious placement of his artwork in our MP3 file embedded deep That was for episode 9 or 8-2, support Squirrel. And before you continue we have to put him on the knighting list!

1:00:06 Oh yes, my goodness. You know I was thinking about that earlier and then I just forgot it again and now that you mentioned his name it re-triggered me to remind you to put him on the knighting list Yes, cesium 137 Should have been knighted like Yeah He has to be a black knight now Black Knight? Yes...Black Knight And just sir Cesium 137 I guess yeah Sometimes this happens where someone just falls into like the void Yeah, this happened. And they stay in it for almost a month usually It's dark in there! It's not good...it's very horrible place Anyway thank you for your artwork. It was cool piece! It was the Lady Justice with some hands mock groping her boobs Yeah, mock groping Remember its mock groping so we're clear We're safe

1:00:58 And noagendagenerator.com is where you can upload your artwork, we look at it after every single show but also use it for other things like the pre-show tweet and newsletter and I'd like to promote again NoAgendaShop.com those guys make cool stuff out of a lot of this artwork AND contribute money to the artists Who are YOU? So its'a good thing My NOAgenda T-shirt The one with the cool logo, the big chest filling logo I've worn that out already! I love it so much They just... they got good T-shirts Yeah. This is where they get the raw materials, if it's a good Egyptian cotton? I don't know that they'll email me let's find out somehow they've... There are good T-shirt makers out there make them. The fit is good, the feel is good, the quality is good. It has got that nice soft feel. Yes and after you wash this not all crackly like scratching up your body

CHAPTER 19 / 43 Discussion

Executive Producer Donations and Marriage Proposals

In a rare occurrence, two donors, Jason Butler and Ben Norman, are both promoted to Executive Producer for $200 donations. Jason Butler is noted for letting the domain "SeanHannity.com" expire, while Ben Norman uses his donation note to publicly ask for permission to marry the daughter of a fellow "No Agenda" listener. The hosts grant a "de-douching" and offer "baby-making karma" to the couple.

jason butler· ben norman· new zealand· marriage proposal· value for value

1:01:53 You're wearing too much mohair. Yes, a no agenda mohair sweater perfect Mohair underwear people! Well this will be your short segment Yes, we have two. This is a by the way the first of first for us We have we don't have any executive producers this is the holiday season is killing us You have no executive producers and we have to associate executive producers Which means the one who who donates the most automatically gets jumped up by rule to executive producer But we have a problem. We have two guys who both donated the minimum for associate executive producer is 200, so they both get bumped up to executive producer for $200. It's the only time this has ever happened. You're right! That is unique? Huh I didn't realize that. So you talk about two guys who got lucky beautiful Jason Butler being one of them

1:02:56 200 bucks after many fun years he says I had to let Sean Hannity.com go oh no Yeah, I guess. I just tried to register it and someone already has it? Well Jason used it... he's the one who owned it forever Why didn't you tell us?! I would have gladly taken it over! He didn't that's why he gave me two hundred bucks now feels guilty well he is also relocated in Takapuna New Zealand he's on the run! He's on the lam! Oh my god! It let SeanHenry.com go! I gotta go hide Of course, when you say he's from New Zealand and on the lamb that has a double meaning. I know i'm just brilliant that way, I guess anyway thanks Jason uh and Sean Hannity is you know we got other stuff to get out of the fish to fry Ben Norman $200 I've been listening for about a year and this is my first donation I was hit in the mouth by none other than Sir Violence

1:03:53 and Sir John Davis of Brentwood, Tennessee. I wanted to take this opportunity to address him directly to not only thank him for guiding me to Dimension A and into your and John's good graces but for allowing a non-donor of the best podcast in the universe to date his daughter for the past year and a half! I would like to kindly request a de-douching. You've been de-douched! He continues saying, having cleared my name over the air... Yeah? Uh, I kindly request your permission to marry your daughter. Wow! I love Tori and very much hope to make her part of my family as well as become apart of yours. Well there you go. Aw Ben that's beautiful Now he does have some jingle requests. Yeah, uh, I saw this. I'm not sure let me see

1:04:47 What is this? Our next question comes... No, I don't. It wants the techno experts. I don't remember what that's called. I don't know what it's called. Hillary wants the techno experts relationship karma and a little girl yay. Okay let me see if this is techno experts. Yes nailed it! I'm gonna have to play this at the end of show That's right, she's got them. Just like the Russians. Of course they're called trolls when there are as we call them techno experts. You've got karma

1:05:37 So they'll both be bumped up. Since we have a short segment, I can get to the errors. Oh very good! Well, I don't want to thank Ben and Jason both. Thank you very much. Yeah and I hope they have...I wish the happy couple all good. Yes let us know if she says uh if he says yes then have you-then you ask her? I mean how's that? You asked him first and then you asked her. Sounds like they're from Tennessee so it's... Wow okay. I don't know what they do. Nice First they go to a Tennessee Volunteers game and if they lose, they get married or if they win, they get married. Something like that I'm not sure. So now here's... first of all let me call out Francis Wahberg for using the error message to send them to send a note. Incorrect usage of error!

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Knighting Corrections and Puerto Rico Corruption Report

The hosts issue corrections for previous knighthoods, officially dubbing Sir Joshua Landon as "Sir Fox Bat the Crypto Knight." They also read a listener report from Italy regarding the situation in Puerto Rico, claiming that local government corruption and pre-existing poverty are the primary causes of the ongoing crisis, rather than a lack of U.S. federal support.

sir fox bat· puerto rico· corruption· hurricane maria· relief efforts

1:06:25 But I didn't know it was good enough that I have to read it. And I'll read it later, this is not anything to do with the errors. Okay here's the error, knighthood correction you need your pen for this one Josh Landon He made a bogo, we never read his note even though he sent us 500 bucks. So here it is new note he said I'm hoping time to get through the pneumatic internet tubes united me sir Joshua Landon but i would like to record the record to be corrected so that you have to do an upgrade yeah Sir Joshua Landon becomes Sir Fox Bat The crypto knight. Okay, so I'll do him in the segment then yeah Yeah in the segment have to because you know it's a no no sorry the sword has to land on the shoulder I would also like to call out my friend John Monaco and my co-worker Craig Kessler as douchebags

1:07:16 We're not contributing value for value to the show. The show is not only provide, not only provides excellent entertainment but I also find it's good for mental health! Please keep doing what you do twice a week thank you for your courage. Welcome out of the way. Thank You sir. Oh no this didn't print out properly now this is a note from oh that was Joshua Landon okay we got that And the next one is Tawny, came in with this note. Dear Innie and Outie... My note was skipped during the BOGO madness but I was wondering if you could still wish my beautiful daughter Taryn a happy belated fourth birthday? Yes! Happy Birthday Taryn! From November 2nd from her mommy and daddy. Uh, do you want to put it on the list or just leave it at that? I think this was better than the list

1:08:22 I think it was better than the list. Happy birthday, Terran! Hi Terran how you doing? Happy Birthday. No jingles but since this is my first donation a de-douching is requested as well as some baby making karma for me and my incredible husband Tyler hoping for resource number five. The beaches are open! You've got karma I just randomly start shouting stuff lately. I don't know what it is the ISOs the ISO game that we play Somehow, I'm this and I'm just reciting ISOs in my regular life like that one and finally Matt Farrell Enjoyed your dramatic reading of my message But I did have a name request in the original note on my PayPal donation now would like to answer This is another upgrade from met sir Matt Farrell

1:09:16 He wants to be known as Sir Tar Heel. No need to read this, no. Sir Matt Farrell becomes Sir Tar Heel. Okay two words not one yes and now in this I might as well get this out of the way that we can throw this staple together package away he says or this is Francis. Francis says I just left the train traveling across Italy. I sat next to a couple from Puerto Rico, the man is a customs worker we discussed the situation there and he and his wife said the following so it gives us a rundown a little note or she

1:09:56 Almost all of the issues they are having, the locals and the local governments have created. This is because if political and financial corruption's already in existence most of the pictures we see on the M5M are from pre-existing areas already impoverished. And last but not least, US government and military have in fact been helping dropping off supplies almost from the beginning but their efforts are jeopardized by the local governments Like a third world country and Trump being an idiot there you go. Yeah, we know this it's fact it was on the TV backed Exactly fact check false any more errors That's it we're good for two are good to go all right well We would appreciate a little more support And I know that everyone really helped us and thanked us for the past 10 years We do want to do a couple more yeah

1:10:48 Years that is so please remember us for this coming Thursday show where we have a special Brand new show it is the what we call that again the 200x into the 200 X Show x I think is actually calling it well We deconstruct the deconstruction, and it's brand-new. It's no onion There are some onion cloves in there or garlic garlic cloves garlic garlic Yeah What we did, or I decided what we're gonna do is a new version of show 200 which has been 200.5, 200.6 and started with 200.5 And then somebody griped about it you know it's confusing and I was thinking yeah It's confusing and then Adam not me but Adam said why don't just do a new show?

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Show X Announcement and Thanksgiving Programming

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak announce a special "Show X" to be released on Thanksgiving, which will feature a deconstruction of the show's own history. Curry explains that producing a new show from scratch is often easier than editing old archival clips. The episode is intended to serve as an introductory guide for new listeners who may find the current format difficult to enter.

show x· thanksgiving· deconstruction· podcasting· archives

1:09:56 Almost all of the issues they are having, the locals and the local governments have created. This is because if political and financial corruption's already in existence most of the pictures we see on the M5M are from pre-existing areas already impoverished. And last but not least, US government and military have in fact been helping dropping off supplies almost from the beginning but their efforts are jeopardized by the local governments Like a third world country and Trump being an idiot there you go. Yeah, we know this it's fact it was on the TV backed Exactly fact check false any more errors That's it we're good for two are good to go all right well We would appreciate a little more support And I know that everyone really helped us and thanked us for the past 10 years We do want to do a couple more yeah

1:10:48 Years that is so please remember us for this coming Thursday show where we have a special Brand new show it is the what we call that again the 200x into the 200 X Show x I think is actually calling it well We deconstruct the deconstruction, and it's brand-new. It's no onion There are some onion cloves in there or garlic garlic cloves garlic garlic Yeah What we did, or I decided what we're gonna do is a new version of show 200 which has been 200.5, 200.6 and started with 200.5 And then somebody griped about it you know it's confusing and I was thinking yeah It's confusing and then Adam not me but Adam said why don't just do a new show?

1:11:36 I'm always looking for extra work. And here's how my thinking goes, I know how long it takes to produce these 200 point shows... It actually takes longer with all the editing than creating a new one. Than doing a new one from scratch But you did the heavy lifting on this one You went back and listened to early shows and pulled clips from them Yeah so it still took me forever but At least there's an interesting show coming up and it's a, and it's one of those shows we might be a good introductory show for people who don't you know can't get into the shore. They don't get it or whatever because there's a lot of explanation. We answer questions. A lot of questions came in and we answered them. It's a good show

1:12:16 It'll be running on Thanksgiving, but it's available forever online. Yes remember us for that program this coming Thursday at Dvorak dot org slash N A And lots of you here in Merck are gonna be hanging out with relatives You know the formula Our formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth Squirrel Packs! Shut up! Oh yes I'm the slave tip Is that time once again children?

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Zwarte Piet Controversy and Dutch Cultural Tensions

The annual controversy over "Zwarte Piet" (Black Pete) in the Netherlands reaches a boiling point as "Kick Out Zwarte Piet" demonstrators clash with traditionalists. The hosts discuss the introduction of "Rainbow Pete" as a compromise and report on truck drivers blocking highways to prevent protesters from reaching events. The segment explores the tension between traditional Dutch culture and modern social justice movements.

zwarte piet· netherlands· blackface· antifa· social justice

1:12:55 gather around your broadcast listening device. It's that time once again when in the Netherlands where I grew up, the man on the horse with a beard from Spain travels up with his helpers known as The Black Peets This has been an ongoing controversy in the Netherlands although it has been culture for hundreds of years The controversy rages now because it is Dutch doing blackface and there is a movement John with an English name no less. Don't we do this story every year? Every year, well here's the new twist It's coming down to blows because we have two sides We have the literally this is their name kick out Swartopete That's that that's their name Kickout Swartopete and then we have the anti-peat demonstrators This is the two names of the two groups

1:13:51 They're both against Pete. No, no the kick out to Pete are the guys who want Pete out but they want rainbow Pete and white Pete and green Pete. Rainbow Pete that's a winner! I'm not kidding rainbow Pete so he is no longer black now has rainbow face which is very realistic And then we have the anti-Pete demonstrators which includes truck drivers Now the anti-Pete just hate Pete? No, no. They hate...no the anti-Pete demonstrators So you got the Pete demonstrators and these are the guys who are against them so it would be the anti kick out Swartepiet guys Oh! So they're the Antifa Well..no they're more like the Nazis and Alderight and the kick out Pete their Antifa

1:14:37 Because they're left and there's social justice. And yeah, I guess never mind just keep explaining it's a mess. Well what the anti-Pete demonstrators did the guys who like Pete in his traditional form their truck drivers they cut off these guys driving to the protest and block the highway for six hours only in Europe do we see that I think we will see it come to blows before it's all over. People are very emotional about this. They're putting my money on the truck drivers. Yeah, that's where I put my money. Very emotional people are right now and this was quite a shocker just while were on Social Justice Warriors. What would happen if you had the same situation but the black Pete's were all black? In other words they were blacks

1:15:35 Well not people in black face right right, but actual black folk well part of the problem is there is no There are no folk that black in Holland you'd have to get them from another country. Well Maybe people man from Ghana Black people and Holland are more brownish because they're Suriname Indonesian That's the blood yeah And also Turkish Moroccan that's a blood that runs through the veins now or has for a long time I don't know, they probably have a problem with it. Oh! It's slavery!" Something like that. Submissive to the white man on the horse? Doesn't matter. None of it is possible anymore and this story that came in the New York Post Denise Young-Smith who was only there for 6 months or so was named Vice President of Diversity & Inclusion yes, in May at Apple and she is African American

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Apple Diversity VP Fired for Inclusion Comments

Denise Young Smith, Apple's Vice President of Diversity and Inclusion, is fired after stating that a room of 12 white, blue-eyed men can still be diverse based on their life experiences. The hosts argue that her firing proves the "diversity" industry is actually about excluding white men. This leads to a comparison of Apple and Microsoft, with Dvorak praising Microsoft's recent product improvements and stock performance.

apple· denise young smith· diversity· inclusion· microsoft

1:16:32 and a woman, so bing-bing. And she's in charge of inclusion and diversity at Apple. And she made a big boo-boo at the One Young World Summit in Bogota Colombia where she was recently. She said there can be 12 white blue eyed blonde men in the room they're going to be diverse too because they are going to bring a different life experience and life perspective to the conversation Diversity is the human experience. I get a little bit frustrated when diversity or the term diversity is tagged to the people of color, or the women, or the LGBT." Well guess what? She got fired! She's right... For too much inclusion that's why she got fired this is crazy. She got fired and you know what it was but there was not a politically correct thing to say no

1:17:28 But in a way, she's- Did the Apple executives... This is Apple that fired her right? Yes. So the Apple executive saying you didn't understand your job. Your job was to hate Whitey, do you get it? Do you understand that's not that hard I'm white the guy could say or the woman I am white but you are supposed to hate Whitey That is what your job is. That's why you were hired Didn't you see it on the LinkedIn ad that we placed Qualifications must hate Whitey Yeah, she didn't read I mean that's it's really it's so an apple Oh apples. Yeah, but no you know because we've discussed Apple before they they hired a very Specific kind of person yeah, and I would say to me whitey tend to be white yeah So well yeah now. I don't I mean I'm outraged by it You know well, I'm glad I got fired for jacking up her expense account when she went to Bogota. I doubt that

1:18:36 I'm glad. I'm moving away from Apple, I'm moving to Windows." Yeah you say that... Hey! Well i'm very close Here's something someone pointed out to me Whereas Apple removed the circle from everything They're now a big X Microsoft has gone from square to circle in case you hadn't noticed that Their logo is now a circle with four colors And the magic is working It is, look at the Microsoft stock skyrocketing. I don't see that the company's any different? No but it no they have better products i like the products you don't like... You use their products. They use Windows and Office! Yeah but you use uh yeah Windows and Office those are their products. Yeah okay I do like those products. Yeah I'm starting to like them too. I like them a lot. So you're liking it to the point where you were almost going to get a Surface

1:19:39 Yeah, it's a nice unit very nice unit But I felt that the screen was just not big enough nice that is tight. I really wanted to touch-screen experience but It has its moments I have the Chromebook which I like with the touchscreen That's kind of cool you and your Chromebook Well, all I do... All I use on it is remote desktop and it just looks like I'm on a Windows laptop only cost $200 instead of 1000. Yeah well, it's cheaper but let's start another couple of this going in another direction. Umm..I want to do one more deconstruction of like a news story that's kind of again this ABC It's a hit piece on Trump using guilt by association with his character

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ABC News Hit Piece on Tom Barrack and Trump

ABC News investigative reporter Brian Ross produces a segment labeling billionaire Tom Barrack a "slumlord" due to eviction policies at Starwood Waypoint. The hosts deconstruct the piece, noting that Barrack had actually sold his interest in the company six months prior. They characterize the report as a "sleazy hit piece" designed to attack Donald Trump through guilt by association with his wealthy friends.

abc news· brian ross· tom barrack· starwood waypoint· slumlord

1:20:31 Barrack is his last name, I think. Who is a douchebag and but he's a friend of Trump's. He's a billionaire friend to Trump's. It's not a friend of Trump's by the way He's a billionaire friend of Trumps. So he is double douchebag because besides being a friend to Trump making him douche bag A, he is also billionaire making him douche bag B. I got the ISO separate so keep an eye on that. Bad hit piece on Trump. Next in ABC News investigation tonight with our stations across the country into a giant real estate rental company Starwood Waypoint co-founded by a billionaire friend President Trump tens

1:21:09 Hundreds of thousands of families live in those properties paying rent. But the company is now dogged by complaints of shoddy maintenance and an aggressive eviction policy. ABC's chief investigative correspondent, Brian Ross tonight. In Dallas Texas disaster in the living room After Carlos and Ebony January say the landlord did a shoddy job of repairing an upstairs leak. Which is like it'd be alive. In Broward County, Florida the parents of Brielle Nicholson say in a lawsuit... Their daughter's asthma was caused by the very same landlord who failed to remove toxic mold from their rental home. Every morning and every night she has to take a breathing treatment The landlord was in effect one of President Trump's best billionaire friends, Tom Berrick who until he sold his interest helped run what is now grown into a giant corporation

1:22:02 operating under the name Starwood Waypoint that controls tens of thousands of single-family rental homes across the country. You have the ultimate out-of-state, far removed absentee landlord. In some neighborhoods, as our station in Atlanta documented a huge presence the company claims it has a 99.8% satisfaction rate from its tenants we're bringing professionalism dedicated resources and a lot of energy and desire to service our residents at a high level But the Better Business Bureau gives the company a grade of D+. And reporters at ABC TV stations across the country heard lots of complaints. We just feel like we've been victimized and taken advantage of. Tenants also told us, the company is quick to threaten eviction

1:22:50 Even if a tenant is only a few days late with the rent. When it happens, they can end up in court and have to pay additional fees and the company's lawyers to stave off eviction Is that true? They have to pay those fees Yes it's true That's fair That's part of the process we have It's part of your business Brian Ross with us tonight and we heard the executive from Waypoint say that the eviction notices and the fees are just part of their business, Brian? That's right David. All landlords deal with eviction issues but a study done for The Federal Reserve Bank in Atlanta found Tom Barracks' company had filed eviction notices against a full one-third of his tenants in the area The company would not say how often they threatened eviction nationwide David Alright Brian Ross on our stations across the country thanks We forgot to put that in our Trump hate roulette Slumlord! That's the one we forgot

1:23:41 Yeah, that's kind of on the list. I don't have to listen. I don't know where it is Oh yeah all kinds of stuff But no oh yes good stuff, but he goes for rotation this may be the rotation that some lords killed by association And his dad was a slumlord remember. I want you to pay play hit piece on Trump ISO and no wait hold on Oh man, I keep forgetting which of these two is the... Yeah A. The Federal Reserve Bank in Atlanta found Tom Barrack's company had filed eviction notices against a full one-third of his tenants in the area? So he's you could also say he's let a third of his tenant stay without paying. Yeah, you could have but Tom Barrack's company is very clear in there very yeah clear

1:24:22 But when you listen to the piece completely and you listen earlier, I want you to listen carefully. To just ISO Tom Beric who until he sold his interest helped run what has now grown into a giant corporation. The Federal Reserve Bank in Atlanta found Tom Beric's company had filed eviction notices against a full one. Okay so that's recent and it's no longer his company but they're saying it's his company? Yeah good catch You don't think that's like a little sleazy There's gambling going on? So they do a sleazy hit piece and try to make it so, it is always associating Tom Berger with Trump. And even though he doesn't own the company, he sold the company. They could now if they had, they really wanted to do a hit piece, they could have done an even better job of it because- That's borderline libelous What's libealous about it? Well, there saying that he's a slumlord

1:25:17 But it's not even his company. They're being around the bush with it, believe me there is no libel in there. I said borderline. Yeah that's a border line. Here's the deal though they could have made this a better story just with the real facts instead of trying to trick us. Set up a little more. Which he sold this company six months ago six months ago, so it's not that long ago. So he still kind of associated with it and he sold it for a huge profit of $400 million. Yeah they could have used that yeah. They screwed people. It could have made it a good hit piece but instead they just went with this cheap you know lazy route and what I failed to understand is why they know the Curry Dvorak Consulting Group has a Hit Piece division. They know this

1:26:05 We could do hit pieces better than any of these. Why don't they come to us and we could do that? We can do the editing everything is it were too expensive Anyway, so I got was very annoyed by this piece there was a there was another hit piece though also ABC that I got And ABC's been on the rampage against Trump recently by the way yeah, I wonder what's going on with them I haven't figured it out well Maybe this you know they're worried about then you know the whole Disney operation being sexual predators against children, historically speaking. I wonder if it all stopped? I watched the documentary... Demi Lovato you know her singer yeah she was also a Disney kid man she was strung out on coke she's completely off of rocker. Do you think all the Disney kids were kind of screwy? Yes! Look at Britney come on yeah Britney has never snapped out of it

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Jeff Flake Hot Mic and the "Never-Trumper" Cycle

Senator Jeff Flake is caught on a hot mic calling Donald Trump an "idiot" and discussing the future of the Republican Party with the Mayor of Mesa. The hosts analyze Flake's decision to not seek re-election, suggesting that internal polling showed he could not win. They mock the transition in political insults from "moron" to "idiot" as part of the ongoing media cycle.

jeff flake· donald trump· roy moore· hot mic· republican party

1:27:08 Here is Flake before he stepped down. I guess this is kind of Jeff Flake, the senator? The Senator yes He was caught on a hot mic! From tax reforms to brass tacks on the future of the Republican Party Just seconds after Senator Jeff Flake had finished at town hall on tax reform He's still on an open mic chatting it up with Republican ally Mesa Mayor John Giles Come the party of Roy Moore and Donald Trump. We are the post, we are absolutely... I'm not someone to smoke at you but you're the guy that could just for fun think how much fun it would be just to be the foil ya know? And point out what an idiot this guy is. Just then another man points to the senator's lapel mic The realization washes over Jeff Flakes face Back to the conversation though The mayor prodding the senator here to run for president apparently referring to Donald Trump as an idiot

1:28:05 Giles had just minutes earlier asked Flake about the possibilities for 2020. You can see the mayor highlighted here at the front of the audience. Senator Flake, I think we... Can we start the presidential campaign today? If there's anybody any way we can encourage you to think again about prospective doing that. That'll work out for you Flake So he was going to run for president and then he resigned? I wonder what was going on. There's something else happening there because this is... There is something that went on, well they knew it wasn't gonna win because the polls had indicated that and they Republicans wanted him out so they could put a stronger candidate in Well poll schmolls we know polls are no good Yeah but did theirs if they got feet on the ground sometimes you can tell this guy's gonna hmm It wasn't well liked

1:28:57 He's like, Corker is worse. They're just two contrarians that bucking the trend and they're never Trumpers and once a Trumper... Never a Trumper always a Never-Trumper. Yes that's true. At least they got the idiot in there so it went from moron to idiot kind of downgrade Yeah as part of this cycle I got some more hate Oh! I have our girl Maxine Follow up. Yes bring the theme in I'm brown well witness and we need to see what is we haven't done the The police version, I think let me see if we have that one yeah, I like this one a lot Stay away from the crack There's the thing those days are over they called you on Fox tonight

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Maxine Waters and Tom Steyer Impeachment Campaigns

Representative Maxine Waters appears on Bloomberg TV to continue her "Impeach 45" campaign, while billionaire Tom Steyer spends $10 million on national television ads calling for Donald Trump's removal. The hosts discuss Steyer's potential political ambitions in California and criticize the "drip" nature of his public persona. They analyze the repetitive "collusion" and "obstruction" talking points used by both figures.

maxine waters· tom steyer· impeachment· bloomberg· california

1:29:57 All right, Maxine Waters appearing on Bloomberg. She'll go anywhere...anywhere! How many people really watch Bloomberg television? Do you think it's a lot that really watch it? No, no. I mean there's very few people that watch CNBC and it is a very small number but it's elites so they get damn very high average ratings. Right, I think Bloomberg... the sound isn't ever even on just the screen It truly, I mean it's all- It's always low res. Yeah low res stock indicators and then there is Maxine Waters and she is responding to a few questions about her glamour impeach Trump, Impeach 45 chant but the number of times she says aye in this clip is really noticeable So why spend your energy on calling for an impeachment for example?

1:30:55 Let me just say this, I have learned over the years that i've been in this business that there are few people who are willing to speak truth to power. and to talk about what really is bothering our society and our democracy. It is not thought well of to step outside that box When I talk about impeachment, I describe what I think about this president. I think he's deplorable And I think he defined himself in the campaign The way that he mocked a disabled journalist, the way he talked about grabbing women by their private parts. The way he called names of his peers etc., etc.. I think that's unacceptable and for people to allow this kind of behavior to be normalized is beyond what i believe

1:31:45 our democracies should be all about. And so I encourage people and I inspire people, and I show people that you don't have to be intimidated, you don't have to be afraid, and you don't have to be traditional. You need to step outside of the box and tell it like it is. That's what I do everywhere I go, I say impeach 45 and I get people knowing an understanding that perhaps he should be impeached and focused on what he's done in the way that he's defined himself his relationship with Putin who won't even criticize and the fact there's a belief that there has been collusion and obstruction of justice It's all there! I'm gonna talk about it everywhere I go

1:32:29 I, it's all about her. Yeah she's... Well which brings us to Tom Steyer. Oh see i was going to point out one thing about Maxine here maybe she goes on Bloomberg because of the low res because I do recall she smile and she looked really kind of good on the Bloomberg. Oh blurry! On low-res she looks pretty good Tom Steyer. This is the guy who dropped $10 million for the following commercial in California, where it plays mostly here which is like who cares? I guess this a good audience but then I can't quite figure out what this guy's up to he is an alternative energy freak and he has a couple of companies that involves itself with

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Etymology of "Drip" and TV5 Monde Cyber Attack

A linguistic tangent explores the origins of the slang term "drip," with the hosts tracing it back to the 1930s or potentially earlier. This is followed by a report on a massive cyber attack against France's TV5 Monde network by a group claiming ties to the Islamic State. The hosts express skepticism regarding the network's "strong firewalls" and suggest the incident may have involved ransomware.

etymology· slang· tv5 monde· cyber attack· islamic state

1:33:22 politics, I think this is an attempt to make a name for himself so he can run for some office. Probably in California. Brought us to the brink of nuclear war accused of obstructing justice at the FBI and violating the Constitution by taking money from foreign governments and threatening to shut down news organizations that report the truth if that isn't a case for impeaching and removing a dangerous president then what has our government become? I'm Tom Steyer, and like you, I am a citizen who knows it's up to us to do something. It is why I am funding this effort to raise our voices together and demand that elected officials take a stand on impeachment A Republican Congress once impeached the president for far less Yet today people in congress and his own administration know That this president is a clear and present danger Who is mentally unstable And armed with nuclear weapons And they do nothing

1:34:19 Join us and tell your member of Congress that they have a moral responsibility to stop doing what's political And start doing what's right our country depends on it. Oh, yes I think we played that before or different one that he is that he funded and the guys a drip I said my mom used to call people that and drip What a drip she was he's a drip Chef phrase from The Shays where does it come from? What is the genesis of a drip? Well, it's like a pill I think. But let's take...I think we should stop the show and look this up. Alright everybody! It's time for...I will get the jingle ready so that we can do that officially and while you're looking that up regarding the impeachment We have word now that there may be some sexual harassment claims coming

1:35:21 Towards we're going towards Al Green who yes, yes Look at the etymology now mid 15th century, that's the 1400s for you who can't do simple math. Drip slang from the 1400s. Slang meaning stupid or feeble or dull person. First it says mid-15th century but then it says first recorded in 1932 perhaps from earlier American English slang sense

1:36:22 out of nonsense, this is very confusing. It says from the 1300s perhaps Middle English drippa, D-R-I-P-P-E from the Proto Germanic drup, also Dutch druppen, German treifen from Piedmont dry... Wait a minute wait what was the dutch spell that word? D-R-U-I-P-E-N Uh, old English had original droopin' to let drop. Maybe it's just someone who is going crazy and stupid because of a drip? Like you know gonorrhea. Oh god... That- that's the only word I can derive from dry pooping. Yeah gonorrhea I don't believe existed in Europe in the 1300s. Okay well then that blows that! So far we're batting zero on the phrase from the shade. There's actually no... We can't get this one. We need to work on this! French croissant! French croissant!

1:37:35 You have a stump does something like the buzzer. Oh, yes We don't we don't know why very disappointing but the dull person from the third night in 32 is what will take that right from a movie? I'll take that and I'm very curious to see if we get anything on an algorithm Now now you just wait for it's anybody you don't like oh man. I wonder if they're gonna have some dirt on him You can hope which is great. I have a couple of unusual clips Okay, first of all let's play This is a DW report on the on the public Broadcasting network in France being shut down by Isis this is DW port on TV 5 attack November November got it

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Facebook Privacy Lawsuit in the European Union

Austrian law graduate Max Schrems leads a class-action lawsuit against Facebook in a Vienna court, representing 25,000 users. The suit alleges that Facebook breached EU privacy laws by sharing data with the NSA and other commercial interests. Facebook attempts to have the case dismissed on procedural grounds, but the hosts view it as a landmark test for European data protection rights.

facebook· max schrems· vienna· privacy· data protection

1:38:31 France's TVZinc Monde network is back on air after being hit by a massive cyber attack which affected all of its 11 channels, its websites and social media operations. TV programming to some 200 countries was severely disrupted now the French Prime Minister Manuel Valls called it an attack on the freedom of expression A group claiming to have ties Islamic State took credit for forcing the international broadcaster to go dark and comprising their social networks. The cyber caliphate has claimed responsibility for similar attacks on other international media outlets TV Sanct Monde was out of action all morning All 11 of its channels were forced to broadcast pre-recorded programs Its website showed the message currently under maintenance The network's bosses say they're shocked by the infiltration

1:39:27 We have very strong firewalls that have been checked very recently and we are said to be very safe. So obviously it's a very knowledgeable and powerful cyber attack." Pardon me Jean-Claude, have you checked the firewall very recently? I got my firewall checked right here. Did you check it recently? Je m'en fous! I don't understand we checked the firewall. It was good now all now also in Europe I want this clip which is the Facebook getting sued in the EU yeah can we come back to the broadcast in a minute though

1:40:04 What broadcast? Channel 5, you're moving along very quickly. There's a reason for me to be doing this. Well Facebook is set to come under scrutiny and an Austrian law graduate is spearheading a class action case against Facebook for allegedly breaching privacy, it's officially filed a suit in the Vienna courtroom. In a closely watched case 25 thousand Facebook users are suing the social media giant for rights violations ranging from the illegal tracking of their data under EU law to its involvement in NSA surveillance program that targeted millions of innocent citizens

1:40:43 27-year old student Max Schrems has a bone to pick with Facebook over alleged privacy violations. His class action lawsuit is seeking 500 euros in damages for each of the 25,000 Facebook users whose data may have been shared with government agencies or commercial interests In Europe we're not enforcing our fundamental rights right now. There are almost no penalties, there is hardly any lawsuits ever and that is the basic idea to say you know guys this is a fundamental right in Europe so constitutional like right you have to stick to it you can't just ignore it Facebook is trying to get the litigation tossed out on procedural grounds. The company insists the court in Vienna does not even have jurisdiction and it questions whether Shrams has the right to bring this suit on behalf of thousands of others. The judge will rule within a few months on whether the lawsuit is admissible, experts say it may become a test case for European data protection laws. Okay now I had a third clip in this series... Yeah? I like that guy's voice by the way

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Amazon Expansion and the Death of Retail in Austin

Amazon announces the expansion of same-day delivery services in Austin, Texas, which the hosts link to the decline of traditional retail on 2nd Street. Dvorak reveals that several "news" clips played earlier were actually from 2011, demonstrating that the same technological and political issues have remained stagnant for six years. They discuss the high cost of electric bikes and the "industrial espionage" paranoia at local tech campuses like Samsung.

amazon· austin· retail· electric bikes· time warp

1:41:47 I like his voice too. And this is a little more local, it's got nothing to do with Europe but it has a connection to the other two stories and this is your local news here, this is tech news from Austin Okay. Let's turn to a story that shows how apps and the tech economy are delivering a jolt to the traditional world of retail with the growth of same day delivery, it's on the rise in a number of metro areas and just today Amazon announced a plan to expand these services into Austin Texas. Oh yeah oh yeah we're here near second street which is a shopping street retail Yeah that's great there must be

1:42:30 The eight stores that are empty, just empty. It's not working no one is buying anything. There is one guy actually a Belgian guy nice guy he started an electric bike shop on 2nd Street which is interesting for Austin we got our Lance Armstrong One Belt One Road Bike Path And, um... But you go in and it's like oh this looks cool. It's a bike but it's the kind I like. You know? It has a carrier on the front and back and more utility. And has a motor on it! This is great what do they cost?! $8000! Yes, I've seen them say sell em around here. 8000 dollars!

1:43:10 a bike with the battery battery bike, but they did have a Dutch girl in there Dutch lady in there not too recently Not too long ago. I mean and she was making stroopwafels from scratch as a promotion Yes We went in how to stroopwafel look at the biking one yeah not for me man. I don't need it Play these three clips that I wanted you to figure out what would why are they all what's? What is the connecting aspect to this clip? Okay, let me observe connect. All right okay so we have the hacking of Tvc5 which I sounds to me like they got a ransomware and they're not gonna admit it But that's just me then there's Facebook being sued for not adhering to data the data regulations in the EU and then the final one

1:44:04 is putting retail out of business in Austin. Yeah, what is the one thing about those three clips that is the same? Well the one that is an outlier for me is the TV5. What am I missing there because I can see hate against Silicon Valley. I see that but I'm gonna have to punt. You're going to have to punt And by the way, when I give you the answer. I want you to think about Judge Moore douchebag trying to remember what happened 40 years ago All three of these clips were from November 2011 Six years ago and they were all played on this show Wow! That's... nothing has changed Well i'm in a time warp It's actually 2010 Jeez

1:45:03 Okay, you got me on that one. Yeah well I got me when I was thinking... Well i like to get 20 clips a show and so I said I was 17 I said let me go back and look at some older ones yeah let's see what I've got So I went to 2011 and I found these three clips and I don't remember any one of them Oh my goodness. I don't remember the meet well, the face with the Facebook thing that's been going on for a long time did they never got to a Class I never heard of resolution Never heard no resolution Isis taking over TV 5 now and the Austin story sounded like it was happening Now well, that was six years ago They were right about you know Tina had to turn she did a thing for

CHAPTER 30 / 43 Discussion

Tech Campus Paranoia and Data Centralization Risks

The hosts discuss the extreme security measures at tech campuses, such as Samsung, where visitors' cell phone cameras are covered with "void" stickers to prevent industrial espionage. They pivot to the risks of data centralization, arguing that while people trust Amazon (AWS) and Google, the lack of personal backups is a major vulnerability. Dvorak recommends using physical terabyte drives for data sovereignty.

samsung· google· data security· aws· industrial espionage

1:45:44 For the Ronald McDonald house, you know Austin is I mean we've got a really outrageous technology scene But it's it's not the same as Silicon Valley here. We have the met some manufacturing so Samsung LG of course we have silicon labs where we design chips And all the and I believe that all these services favor Amazon and I let instacart and I love them All I mean I'm running a household with ease on the apps And, you know, you have to know what to do to make sure the person who brought your stuff to your door gets the tip and it doesn't go into the pool. Uber... I mean all this stuff is geared towards people who work there. So Tina went there

1:46:24 What is, right when something is rumbling. What is going on? Some sound... She went where? She went to Samsung for at lunchtime you know to they have a little booth I guess it was one of those fair days You know here's some nonprofits in Austin and if you want to learn about them It's kind of thankless work But to get in she said it was like Fort Knox she had to go through magnetometer They had to go through her bag And then they said well okay We need your cell phones It's like, no. I'm a communications professional! I need my cell phone and they put... No USB drives? No jump drives? Nothing like it? None of that And they put little stickers on her phone's camera front and back and the stickers you think well that's easy but she didn't- she left them on i took pictures of them i'll put in the show notes She left him on for me to see and when you take them off immediately this sticker says void

1:47:23 So you break something within the seal or something happens and then, you know it's obvious that you would remove that. So they had all of this going on is just crazy! Yeah they're very very paranoid. Why? Industrial espionage I presume. Well sure it is but they're not doing in the middle of the factory there must have a little room where they put these little events together without having to worry about... No she was in the cafeteria So what? Exactly. What's, oh we've got a special cafeteria you make us special pizza come on! What kind of industrial espionage are you gonna do in the cafeteria and they got everything there they have you know the same as Google they got massage services dry cleaning everything except babysitting services because no one has babies there There is no babies No babies At least not enough to warrant anything like that

1:48:19 But yeah, it is happening. And what was odd- So there must be some really professional industrial espionage spooks that can go into a place like that look left look right see nobody's going then they go to a door and then they go running down the stairwell and then they get off somewhere and take a bunch of pictures real quick and come back and then just adjusting their tie grabbing a champagne Yeah, exactly. Grabbing a champagne and what was kind of interesting about the TV5 hack is I had this clip maybe two weeks ago Malmo 24 or 24malmofm Was hijacked recently and right in the middle of playing Ed Sheeran For 30 minutes The Isis anthem starts looping yeah, I got a little bit of it's just a recording of someone you know in their car

1:49:18 I can't really hear it that well, but it was playing on the... and this is pretty easy to hijack these things these days because everyone's pumping all their signals through their transmitter through the internet. But still pretty sophisticated! That's pretty cool. It's a good hack Yeah, I'd say there's more of this. It's all the centralization stuff and people are so worried about Google and Microsoft, and even Intel with their i5 and i7 chips. They got all kinds of tracking stuff in there, their own little operating system doing stuff

1:49:54 I'm much more worried about people not considering really their data. You think that Google can't go down or say they can't get something catastrophic? People have a lot of belief that's going to be okay, same for Apple, for iCloud or Microsoft Cloud or any of that. The only people like kind of think will keep the shit together is Amazon because that is their business so if you're using AWS or S3 You know they go down. They lose what a ten million and a second yeah, there's something like that some crazy They have to keep that thing going crazy number now Yeah, no data is out there right? That's why I recommend people just get you know Terabyte drives are 25 bucks. I mean it doesn't take much too well

CHAPTER 31 / 43 Discussion

Mandela Effect and Lebanon War Speculation

A brief discussion on the "Mandela Effect" and the "Flat Earth" theory leads into a report from Foreign Policy magazine regarding Israel's reluctance to enter a war in Lebanon. The hosts analyze the messaging of the article, suggesting it serves as a signal that major conflict in the region may be avoided for now. They mention an upcoming interview with the analyst Pchenik.

mandela effect· lebanon· benjamin netanyahu· foreign policy· pchenik

1:50:38 Back up your own stuff and put it somewhere. Now, but anyway I thought the point was making with those three clips is that we can't remember these and then we do this show that's pretty much what we do and...I was very disturbed by that. Well then comes on the heel of our special Show X where we played the opening of Show 100 and neither of us remember it at all Remember that highly I was going back and look at all the shows And I said let me see this show because what cuz I was looking for the part where you're gonna quit But it wasn't in there. It was often wasn't in the show yeah, but So I played this show and I'm listening to thinking and you can be here on Thursday anyone out there I'm hearing a go holy crap. I don't remember this at all

1:51:28 Yeah, but of course it was like you know 900 shows ago which is a long time yeah But I don't remember us doing anything that elaborate. It was very elaborate the opening it was someone clearly did that for us Yes, well we named who it was you thanked them? Yeah? Yeah, I don't remember who it was even now after we talked about in just a few days Hmm. I don't know Very strange, very strange. It could be...you know the fact that what we may be observing here has nothing to do with any of this and maybe the Mandela effect. Oh yeah right on right on the flat earth that's where it's all going down That's what it is flat earth There was a an article in Foreign Policy which I'm pretty sure that's a right-wing thing No foreign policy isn't at the Council on Foreign Relations? no no no foreign policy FP nah that's got to be right wing

1:52:25 I'm not sure it is, but okay. Well here's the headline Don't expect Benjamin Netanyahu to put Israeli soldiers in harms way in Lebanon on Mohammed bin Salman's say-so Now the reason why I am giving you this article because it was sent to me by Pchenik and he sent me a note and said It looks like our guy...I don't know who that is has stopped the insanity and there won't be war in Lebanon That would be Trump. That's what I think he meant, so... And there is a whole bunch of backup in this article as to why it's not going to happen! Well that- I'm happy about that! I am little tired of war. I believe foreign policy is one of those operations that sends out messages. I think its messaging operation, so thats message for someone. Yeah well the way Pchenik took was oh good no wars are gonna happen and that was enough for him

CHAPTER 32 / 43 Discussion

Flu Shot Marketing and Native Advertising Deconstruction

The hosts deconstruct a local news report from KTVU regarding the first flu death of the season, noting the contradictory advice given to seniors. While the news report suggests those over 65 should avoid the shot, the CDC and pharmaceutical companies are heavily marketing a high-dose "adjuvanted" vaccine called Fluad for that exact demographic. The hosts conclude the segment is a "native ad" designed to create a "problem-reaction-solution" cycle for expensive vaccines.

flu shot· cdc· ktvu· native advertising· seniors

1:53:29 I think I'm talking to him Monday or Tuesday for the special interview. Yeah, it's gonna be good um I have one more here this is a Let's see which one it was. Flu shot, oh guys let's catch up we might as well run the flu shot story we have to do that every year. Don't we have a... Close enough First death from this season's winter flu strain The victim was younger than age 65 which officials say is unusual Our South Bay reporter Jesse Gary in downtown San Jose tonight with more about this first case and also ways you can prevent being infected Jesse

1:54:10 Frank, health experts say between 5 and 20 percent of the U.S. population will become infected with the flu this winter as always to suggest getting a flu shot to prevent catching the flu and prevent the spread of it but weeks in the flu season we're finding only a small number of people have taken the biggest proactive step of getting that flu shot Soggy weather and street decorations signal the changing seasons. So does the appearance of this year's flu bug, and the push by health professionals to get people inoculated as this man did I think it's a important thing to do It's a scientific advancement that flu shots help Thursday Santa Clara County Health Department officials announced The first death due to the flu victim was a woman under the age of 65

1:55:01 Stop, stop. Uh-huh yeah, yeah two to three weeks. Dr. Ranjan Mishra says sneezing, sore throat fatigue are common symptoms in addition to getting a flu shot she advises everyone to wash their hands regularly or use hand sanitizer and if sick keep away from others to lessen the spread during a time of year when people are indoors or traveling even if you get the vaccine here not 100% protected from getting the flu And even if you do get the vaccine, you may get a different strand of the flu later on. So that's unfortunate but at least you're going to be protected from all the major strains

1:55:45 You can get the flu shots at county health offices, at pharmacies and urgent care centers. You can also check with your employer they may provide flu shots for free to employees recommended for anyone six months of age and older not recommended for pregnant women and anyone who's over 65. Six months? You stepped on the end. Not recommended for anyone who is 6 months pregnant or over 65 Do you remember the beginning of this thing and the other time I have to go through it? Yeah, yeah. No, get into that here then I'll play it again for people. First down from the seat... What now? You don't have too. I mean, I don't think you do

1:56:24 They say, oh it's a shocker that this woman died from the flu and she is not 65. Wait a minute if everybody is going to die from the flu who are over 65 why aren't they recommending the shot for them? It's interesting because there is a shot for over 65 which I've seen marketed specifically and it even promotes...I gotta find this..it even promotes that its filled with adjuvants Yeah, over 65 flu shot. And for people who are wondering we're not really a fan of this idea. Here, flu shots for seniors high dose! Yeah what you should know and do the- here we go CDC well screw that report

1:57:07 What you should know and do this flu season if you're 65 years or older. So, you're on the cusp here John It has been recognized for many years that people 65 years and older are a greater risk of serious complications from the flu compared with young healthy adults because human immune defenses become weaker with age Flu seasons can vary in severity during most seasons People 65 years and older bear the greatest burden of severe flu disease In recent years, for example it's estimated that between 71% and 85% of seasonal flu-related deaths have occurred in people 65 years and older. Between 54 percent 70 percent of seasonal flu related hospitalizations have occurred among that age group so influenza is often quite serious for people 65 and older." And it says right here get your flu shot! Actions to take this flu season? Get your flu shot but

1:57:59 Vaccination is especially important for people 65 years and older because they're at high risk from complications from the flu. So who's talking here? I'm phoenixed! The only reason that clip was played, it was for that reason What are we doing here what is this no no don't take it if you're 65 or older But it said the CDC who we trust in our government says It's important to take even a higher dose The adjuvanted flu vaccine, Fluad is made with MF59-Adjuvant. Mmm tasty hamburger helper! Which is designed to create a stronger immune response to vaccination Canadian observational study of 282 persons aged 65 years and older conducted during the 2011-12 flu season Fluad was 63% more effective What organization did this report? Sounds like bull crap Yeah it is

1:59:01 So what they're doing with, and somehow the news organization is a local news sub. I think it's KTVU. I think they just want to kill the old people. Well, they either want to kill the old people or they want to direct them back to the doctor that get their really expensive shots. Yeah, the one when you're describing? Yes, yes. Because you're going to say, I'm 65 year-old and they emphasize twice in that report about it's a shocker that the person who died was under 65 as if over 65 are dropping dead left and right. And then they...so, they put that in the report very clearly and like you were going to play at the beginning. It's right at the beginning. You know? Hold on a second. Let me listen to this again because there are couple of data points we've got here. You're hearing deconstruction in real time. So, the study that CDC referenced is from Candanavia and Candanavia only in past few years approved Fluad, the new influenza vaccine for seniors

2:00:00 So the question is, is this really a native ad? Let's listen again. First death from this season's winter flu strain The victim was younger than age 65 which officials say is unusual Our South Bay reporter just... What?! Unusual! No they actually say the exact opposite They say people over 65 happens much more frequently She's saying it was unusual. Did I misunderstand that? Yeah, what he said was she was younger than 65 which is unusual because... Which is the right message Because everyone over 65 is gonna die. Okay, let's listen again I'm thinking this is a native ad somehow we must have missed something first death from this season's winter flu strain The victim was younger than age 65 which officials say is unusual our South Bay reporter Jesse Gary is in downtown San Jose tonight with more about this first case and also ways that you can prevent being infected Jesse

2:00:59 Frank, health experts say between 5 and 20 percent of the U.S. population will become infected with the flu this winter as always they suggest getting a flu shot to prevent catching the flu and prevent the spread of it but weeks into flu season we're finding only a small number of people have taken the biggest proactive step of getting that flu shot. Thursday Santa Clara County Health Department officials announced the first death due to the flu. The victim was a woman under the age of 65. The individual... Yeah, let's move forward through that. Went back? Yes okay

2:01:38 A sore throat, fatigue are common symptoms. In addition to getting a flu shot she advises everyone to wash their hands regularly or use hand sanitizer and if sick keep away from others to lessen the spread during that time of year when people are indoors or traveling Even if you get the vaccine your not 100% protected from getting the flu And even if you do get the vaccine, you may get a different strand of the flu later on. That's basically the disclaimer? So that... I mean it is unfortunate but at least your going to be protected from all the major strains You can get the flu shots at county health offices, at pharmacies and urgent care centers. You can also check with your employer they may provide flu shots for free to employees Recommended for anyone six months of age and older not recommended for pregnant women and anyone who's over 65 Well this is insane The report makes no sense It does appear that there is a push just reading through Just binging it

2:02:40 This flu ad seems to be getting a push. Well, maybe this is a preliminary set up for another story. Because the question that comes to mind is I'm over 65 what am I going to do? And it's unusual that they don't die from the flu so they could do a follow-up saying people were concerned about this but there's a product and we have our doctor some guy comes out and says oh no you can use this its perfect for people who do this or that and take this other stuff and it's more expensive And yeah, this is a scam. Yeah and I think you're right what will happen is we get a few more of these oh it's this is not for 65 but the 60 or your die you're gonna die if you're gonna die and then we hit him with no problem reaction solution

CHAPTER 33 / 43 Discussion

Donor Thank You Segment and Cancer Celebration

The hosts read a list of donors who contributed to the show's "value for value" model. A highlight includes Sir Harry Pilgrim, who donates $80.08 in celebration of his wife Jennifer's two-year anniversary of being cancer-free. The segment features the show's signature "horn" sound effects and a "goat scream" karma request to mark the occasion.

value for value· donations· breast cancer· sir harry pilgrim· goat scream

2:03:28 Whoo-hoo! Flu ad prices, yes. And flu ad coupons, nice. And of course my recommendation although I'm not a doctor and I can't give recommendations like this Tamiflu works. because we're moaning about the donations. But we have a few people to thank and I want to thank them, starting with Mac Cavaness, not cavernous, cavanus $166.80. And he says this...he's got some math here thinking it might put him on the watch list that couldn't quite figure out what he meant. Jared

2:04:18 Jared Zafman 160 Austin Wilson Sir, Austin of the snowy cascades Casca some casks snowy Cascades Washington's Sammamish 133 33 Donald J. Ripple $110 and 10 cents sent that in as a check Sir Harry Pilgrim 8008 and Frederick's hold on stop stop with the Harry for a second if you don't mind He sir, Harry pilgrim haven't heard from him in a while John Adam I know he don't usually read notes below two hundred dollars But this is a special anniversary celebrating the 2-year anniversary of my wife successful cancer treatment She is now cancer-free and loving life. For the donation segment, here's what I'd like... Please don't—well he wants a celebration horn music and he wants this message read. Why? What horn music? No, I think it just means the horns. What horns? Our patented horns man! You know like this. You mean that this which isn't a horn or this? No these horns

2:05:19 In the morning, Sir Harry Pilgrim here donating 80.08 for a single boob in celebration of the two-year anniversary of my wife Jennifer's successful breast cancer treatment She now introduces them as her 20 year old boob and her 40 year old boob I'd like an F Cancer and And a goat scream karma okay? I'll give him a goat scream karma then I didn't have that one ready Okay what? Damn goat where's the goat Okay, here we go. Alright thanks for the horns good work I like my horn with your horn Yes our horns are copacetic if they don't squeeze it hard which was this don't squeeze my horn if I just That's more like a that's a nice

2:06:19 Okay, onward. John Cruz in East Wenatchee Washington $71 Sir Rick in Arlington Washington 69 96 Dean Roker double nickels on the dime 55 10 sir pain in the ass and Richmond Virginia 5 4 3 2 Sir Ben of Oakland Oakland California 51 35 William well-born in Kennesaw Georgia 50 33 Anthony bends in St. Louis, Missouri 50-05 and the following people are $50 donors name and location and we'll be done with it Andrew Gusick in Greensboro North Carolina Jason Clegg in San Diego California Thomas Dillon in Laverne California Eric Mackey MAKI in Lawrenceville Georgia 50 Joe Darun Daruin in Savannah Georgia

2:07:13 Dalit Zanguzan, I'm guessing. Zanguzan in Bellevue Washington 50. Israel Cazares parts unknown Bill Leclerc capital L small a and Riverdale Michigan Scott Lavender in Montgomery Texas and last but not least Matthew Funk. Matthew Funk in parts unknown that's it Well, we do appreciate these nice gifts which keep us going. But we do need more support actually there's a lot of reason for it you know Neiman Labs who I... Yeah, I like them but don't really whenever they do something that I know about like podcasting then you know they talk a lot about advertising and how it works and the resurgence and blah blah blah

CHAPTER 34 / 43 Discussion

Digital Media Layoffs and the Value for Value Model

Reports of massive layoffs at Oath (Verizon), Mashable, BuzzFeed, and Vice indicate a crisis in the ad-supported digital media industry. The hosts contrast these failing commercial models with their own "value for value" system, which has sustained No Agenda for ten years without advertisers. They criticize journalism schools like Nieman Lab for ignoring listener-supported media in favor of corporate ad-tech discussions.

mashable· buzzfeed· vice· ziff davis· nieman lab

2:08:05 They never talk about our model, which is okay because maybe that's just not what they do. I mean, I thought they would cover media in all forms. You think so? You think they'd cover the paid media, paid for media advertising that the public supported, listeners supported you think they would cover it all but no, they don't What is their charter then even if its Harvard right? It's a journalist deconstruction operation of some sort. They try to show people what's going on in the world of journalism and specifically leave us and other people who do what we do out because there's no commercial interest. So you have to wonder if there is some connection between advertisers and the operation itself." Well, that makes this article even more interesting!

2:08:49 Bad news headline bad news from Mashable BuzzFeed and vice shows times are rough for ad supported digital media sub sub Headline, what is that in journal? Gargar jargon There's a name for it. Yeah, journal jargon I know we know about graphs. I know that but okay well Richard What is he called? Never right line and then okay well this is a sub headline the rapid Something else the rapid growth of Google and Facebook continues to take its toll on digital media companies And they go on to list more layoffs at OAuth Oath that's Verizon's outfit which has HuffPo AOL Yahoo

2:09:40 They laid off 560 staffers, about 4% of the company's overall headcount. Mashable sold to Ziff Davis which is kind of like the Hail Mary of publishing. You're referring to it as called The Deck D-E-K Oh explain That's what it was called The Deck Yeah, all these things are like the you know you have a head All these things are misspelled on purpose so you can spot them in case they get oh Thank you. I didn't know what you're talking about this subheadline It's called a deck de head is called HED as the head and you have a deck D Is that an acronym? The next thing is the first line of the paragraph is delete LED What does it come from? I don't know any hold a deck okay

2:10:27 So the next one on that list of trouble in paradise, Mashable. And as I said, you know it's sold to Ziff Davis which I mean it is like when you're completely out of ideas can't just go to Ziff Davis and they'll buy you isn't that the way? Definitely have found this as a bargain because the thing was valued around 200 million bucks and Ziff Davis picked it up for 50 yeah which I think most and I don't think much of that zone but I think most of his own by you know financiers I don't think that the VC got there going to get anything no no Yeah, gosh that's never happened before yes The was it the world yeah Wall Street Journal reported both BuzzFeed and vice will miss their revenue projections buzzfeed will missed its goals by 15 to 20 percent While vices earnings will come in around lower than its target of 800 million is that there Oh earnings That doesn't mean these are revenues. Yeah, that's just says earnings

2:11:25 So earnings means that's after the profit. So they're making $800 million in profit, vice? No earnings in this case... I think they're referring to revenue. I think they're referring to revenue too. That's Google territory. Well Google is into billions. Anyway so it's not working out very well and what Neiman Labs are saying is oh that's a Google and Facebook and they're eating everybody's lunch! They are, kinda. Yeah! Well I'm just pointing out... So what else is new? What's important is that our model is a value for value model and we can continue to do this have done so for 10 years if you continue to support us and of course I want to thank everybody who came in under $50 typically on our subscriptions

2:12:10 It's really important because there is no other way. There is no, uh...there's no other avenue for us Not that we could do the show We do if we had advertisers. No, If we had advertisers we could not do this show And we'd actually have no advertiser and we'd at least-and we'd have no advertisers But we couldn't do this show it would be impossible Yeah and we would be spending all of our time dealing with the advertisers which is something we don't want to waste our time doing Enough of that Have we done enough of that? So please consider that and remember us for our Thursday show at devorak.org slash NA by multiple requests jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! Karma

CHAPTER 35 / 43 Discussion

No Agenda Knighting Ceremony

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak perform a formal knighting ceremony for high-tier donors. New knights include Sir Tarheel, Sir Foxbat the Crypto Knight, Sir Casual Lee, and Sir Bram of Upper Candanavia. The hosts also dub Cesium 137 as a Black Knight, welcoming them all to the "Round Table of the No Agenda Knights and Dames."

knighting· sir tarheel· sir foxbat· black knight· roundtable

2:12:57 It's your birthday, birthday! I'm so glad you're here. Ah just a short list today Jared Zyfman celebrates on the 21st we say happy birthday in advance and Matthew Funk says happy birthday to his dad Bob Funk A great DJ name if you've ever heard one Happy Birthday from the best podcastie in the universe It's your birthday yeah Boom got my sword Stop with the noise makers get your sword Hold on Okay, got it. Thank you. Matt Farah, Josh Landon, Justin Lee, Cesium 137 and Jared Zeifman please step on up to the podium here you are about to take your well-deserved seat at the round table of the No Angelina Knights and Dames thanks to your support of the show in the amount of $1,000 or more and I hereby pronounce the KD

2:13:45 Sir Tarheel, uh sir Foxbat the crypto knight. Sir Casual Lee, sir Bram of upper Candanavia and Black Knight, sir Seasian137 for you we have hookers and blow rent boys in Chardonnay, Rent Boys in gin & tonic We've got redheads and rye's organic macaroni and plasticizers beer and blunts Brazilian hotties and cachacha cheap cookies And cold coffee bear cream ass fillings or ass cream and bear fillings Of course we also have mutton and mead Head over to noahjennation.com slash rings and give all the details And we'll get some stuff out to you, and we're gonna do something special I think we're gonna We wanted to a limited edition pin for the 1000th that was never uh Maybe? We don't know! I'm sorry. I thought-I thought that was on deck. I don't know! It might... Well maybe it's possible. I though it would be fun Yeah well, I mean it's easier said than done That's the problem

CHAPTER 36 / 43 Discussion

De Beers Diamond Market and Economic Indicators

The "Raj Pink" diamond fails to sell at a Sotheby's auction in Geneva, signaling a potential downturn in the luxury gem market. Dvorak reflects on his "biggest mistake" of not investing in De Beers during college. The hosts discuss how high-quality synthetic diamonds and the rise of Bitcoin as a "store of value" are disrupting the traditional use of diamonds for wealth preservation and money laundering.

de beers· sotheby's· pink diamond· synthetic diamonds· money laundering

2:14:44 Well, yeah. Okay sorry It's okay when you get mad I'll put it back on the Burner it was on the list that's why I brought it up. I was all the lists Hey something's going on Something's going on In the world of diamonds and diamonds have always been weird You know it seems like this my biggest mistake ever made in my life. I'm all ears. I was in college

2:15:23 And I was actually in the stock market at the time and I was looking at De Beers as an investment because it was paying 25%. Because I was at Berkeley, I was convinced that they were gonna be run out of business shot and hung. Blood! You got blood on your hands? If I had invested into De Beers, I wouldn't be doing this show I mean, it just would have compounded like crazy. It would to this day still be compounded. Yes. Wrong again Dvorak! That was a big blunder. Oh really? And you harbor that as a blunder...I do. It's one of my...I look back on it and its like... You think he would've held on somewhere along the line. One of the reasons that I'm so cynical about a lot of stuff because academia had convinced me at the time that it was a stupid idea

2:16:17 Oh, this is very interesting. We're getting to the genesis of some of your feelings Yep Huh well you'll feel good about this then It's the largest known fancy intense pink diamond it weighs 37 point three carats and it was valued at up to 30 million dollars But the Raj Pink Diamond failed to sale at auction house Sotheby's semi-annual jewel sale on Wednesday in Geneva At 14 million francs Thank you ladies and gentlemen. It's not sold! And the bad luck did not end there for Sotheby's... Unfortunately it is NOT sold! A blue diamond ring by Messiah failed to sell, and a pair of yellow diamonds that once belonged to the German princely von Dommerschmarck family had the same fate too But it wasn't all bad news. A Harry Winston light pink diamond ring sold for 12.6 million Swiss francs

2:17:12 Still only 303 of the nearly 350 items sold according to Sotheby's figures. Proving that at auction, not all that glitters turns to gold dollars or Swiss francs Now I think this is an economic indicator It's no- it's not...I guess looking at the recent Da Vinci that was sold maybe diamonds are no longer seen as oh yes let me use the phrase a good store value Well, I think that this has a lot to do with the uncertainty in the market created by the now cheap artificial diamond. Yes! You mentioned that they're making them and they're really good aren't they?

2:18:03 sometimes better than the real thing. And I don't know this for a fact, but it seems to me that if you can make one half-carat diamond...I don't know how big they make them? I'm guessing if you can make a small one and you can make a big one and I think you can make a real big one. I think there's something different going on here. It's possible! What are diamonds really used for? Money laundering would you agree? Think they're used yeah a lot of it. I mean the come on the whole diamond trade there fantastic They're small you could put them in a tube up your butt no one knows you got him Yeah, that's why this heists at airports like hey There's a guy I'm sure he's got some diamonds will whack him over the head and grab some diamonds Then maybe just maybe its become so incredibly easy And I will say this to use Bitcoin that they're just moving it over just stuff

CHAPTER 37 / 43 Discussion

Bill Gurley on Bitcoin as a Store of Value

Venture capitalist Bill Gurley of Benchmark Capital discusses Bitcoin on CNBC, describing it as an "incredible store of value" for people in countries with unstable currencies. The hosts mock Gurley's description of Bitcoin as "just another bet" similar to his investment in Snapchat. They debate whether Bitcoin can truly replace "shiny" assets like diamonds in social and romantic contexts.

bill gurley· bitcoin· benchmark capital· snapchat· store of value

2:18:57 What do you think? That's a good idea. I like that! And, I have a report... That is a good theory. Do you know who Bill Gurley is? Yeah, I do know him. I don't even think I may ever know him. He's with Benchmark Capital, a venture capitalist. Famously invested in Snapchat. Now of course they made their money but go look at Snapchats chart. Their IPO was 25 and now they're 11. Headed to 50 cents. I'm buying when it's at $5 that's high know that that'll be good It'll have a pop somewhere, but it'll be good but listen to what he says about Bitcoin and Well just is this a speculative bubble in Bitcoin? Do you have any money in Bitcoin or

2:19:42 Are you more focused on blockchain? Tell us. We do have money in Bitcoin and I don't think it's irrational, not that i'm a macro economist but I look at the global macro world and you look how so many governments are over inflating and interest rates are on the floor And there is nowhere to put money And so if you live in one of those countries where you don't trust the currency of your own government, how do you want to get paid? We work with a company called HackerOne that pays white hat hackers to find vulnerabilities in large websites. Many people who live in those types of countries want to be paid in Bitcoin and we pay them in Bitcoin. That's why you have money in Bitcoin? I think it is an incredible store of value

2:20:27 you for the rest of the world. Oh, look it deflates it doesn't inflate in terms of percentage or portfolio what are you doing? oh it's small it's like another bet another company but that's not our business. What do you think it's worth, Bill? Hey stop. Did he say it is like another bet? Yes that's exactly what he said just like another company or the bet we'd make on some piece of crap like snap yeah Snapchat Yeah oh it's small It's like a another bet You know another company Another bet Another company Hey that's the guy I want to have invest in me I got this great idea. Could you make a bet in me just as another company, you douchebag? I'm gonna douche him for that. Douchebag! ...to the world and look it deflates it doesn't inflate In terms of percentage or portfolio what are you doing Oh its small It's like another bet You know another company But thats not our business Sarah Eisen What do you think is worth Bill Do you think you can put a price Or any kind of valuation on Bitcoin No Do you think it keeps going higher

2:21:32 And not a fraud. I don't think it's a fraud Okay, thanks for clearing that up hmm well he used the the SOV store of value everyone all my Bitcoin buddies are like Curry here listen this guy knows who's talking about But I'm thinking with the decline in diamonds which is no more or less real than then Bitcoin and Shiny ear it's much shinier, and you can get laid with it. I mean if you just give a girl of Bitcoin on a USB Drive She's not gonna be happy about this wedding this marriage proposal You're doing no big time. This is great. I don't do that to Tina. Yeah, I got a bit going on the USB drive She's she probably like one bitcoin give me two Bitcoin through Bitcoin That's two months work

CHAPTER 38 / 43 Discussion

Brexit Legislation and Soros's EU Friends List

Theresa May confirms that the final Brexit agreement will be subject to a vote in Parliament, leading the hosts to predict a "do-over" of the referendum. Dvorak announces a listener meetup in London and reveals he has obtained a "friends list" of George Soros-aligned members of the European Parliament. The document includes detailed contact information and political backgrounds for over 200 MEPs.

brexit· theresa may· george soros· european union· london meetup

2:22:38 Two bitcoins worth of work. Mm-hmm, there you go all right can I go to England for a moment? You're about to take off you're about to go over to London Yes, I am actually and you gonna is the meetup squared away Is that all set up or it's got well if for people listening they went over the meat up as I don't have the location I'm going to send out a mailing today With the location it's gonna be on Friday night turns out be better than Saturday It'd be Friday night around six o'clock in London And I got a lot of people on the mailing list and I'm going to send out a special mailing to... Oh, great. ...people in Portugal, England, Scotland, Ireland... Nice! ...and Holland. I'm gonna send the Dutch... You may see one or two Dutchies show up? Yeah they might. Now if they still can.

2:23:24 Yeah, before the last minute. Last chance to dance with Dvorak over in the UK's that's right and but but you know before we get all happy about the removal of freedom of movement of the European citizens, they might be going back to do kind of a reverse on the Brexit thing. It's clear that we need to take further steps to provide clarity and certainty both in negotiations and at home regarding implementation any agreement into United Kingdom law I can now confirm that once we've reached an agreement will bring forward a specific piece of primary legislation to implement that agreement this we know as withdrawal agreement and implementation bill

2:24:08 This confirms that the major policies set out in the withdrawal agreement will be directly implemented into UK law by primary legislation, not by secondary legislation under the Withdrawal Bill. This also means that Parliament will be given time to debate scrutinise and vote on the final agreement we strike with the European Union this agreement will only hold if Parliament approves it We expect this bill to cover the contents of the withdrawal agreement that includes issues such as an agreement on citizens' rights, any financial settlement and a details on implementation period agreed between both sides. Sounds like they're putting it squarely back into Parliament's hands. Hard to say I just you know my opinion of the whole thing

2:24:53 Ain't gonna happen. Well, we said this early on it's going to be a do-over you slaves did it wrong You don't know what you're talking about based on past performance What happened in Ireland is the same or France and the Netherlands? Yes the trifecta That's right France and the Netherlands Did it do over for the Lisbon Treaty and then Ireland got all huffy and then they had another do-over Yeah, that's really incredible Why wouldn't we just see that forever By the way, in the show notes I put the Soros's friends list in the European Union. I found it. Oh you did? Good! It's really... they have it broken down by industries who we want to talk to if it's about this and broken down by country contact information everything is great. The fact that- Is there a mailing list where they have email addresses?

2:25:46 Well, that's a good question. Let me you know I think they do hold on let me just open up Fantastic and scrape that and use it for the mailing list Let's see Hold on let me just check let me scroll down is its of large document. I don't know how many pages It has it's just incredibly big oh yeah. Oh my goodness kidding no its got Every person how many people are in this list? 260 So, an example. Demis Macher, Mark Demis Macher from Belgium he is with the ECR

2:26:28 Now, his background. Journalist regional MP 2004-2013 Secretary General of his party 2005-2007 Councillor 2013 to present Member of European Parliament since 2013 Interested in media and education Regional anatomy Social rights including an EU wide minimum salary And LGBTI rights Notice the addition of the I A strong advocate in favor of breaking up Belgium. Uh-huh, the Walloons and the Flems? Oh yeah! But may be relied upon for fundamental rights and media related issues details mark dot demesmacher at ep dot europa dot eu phone number

2:27:19 Then it's dynamite. He has the mail, the post routing number WIB4M57. Whoo! That's great if you need to route some mail to his office and this is really... It's a fantastic document Sounds like dynamite. Yeah, so yeah you can scrape this for sure Very good to scrape now there's something else going on and I hope you can figure out what it is when your travels over There this is the latest from Gitmo nation GMT Britain is preparing a multi-million pound transfer To Iran as it seeks the release of a jailed aid worker The Telegraph newspaper cites unidentified British sources saying the country will send over 400 million pounds

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UK Debt Transfer to Iran and Jailed Aid Worker

The British government prepares to transfer £400 million to Iran, officially to settle a 1970s arms deal dispute, though critics link it to the release of jailed aid worker Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe. Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson faces scrutiny for his handling of the case. The hosts compare this to the Obama administration's cash payments to Iran, suggesting the "aid worker" may actually be a high-value intelligence asset.

iran· nazanin zaghari-ratcliffe· boris johnson· mi6· arms deal

2:28:04 or $527 million to seek goodwill. The government has reportedly sought legal advice over whether it can transfer the funds, which it owes as a result of a disputed arms deal in the 1970s A spokesman for Prime Minister Theresa May says there's no link between the debt and the fate of Iranian-British dual citizen Nazanin Zakhari Ratcliffe. The project manager with the Thomson Reuters Foundation, a charity organisation that is independent of Reuters News, is serving five years in an Iranian jail after she was convicted of plotting to overthrow the country's government if

2:28:51 Johnson is under scrutiny for the way he's handled the case, with pressure for him to resign over comments he made earlier this month that Zoghari Rakhlev had been teaching journalism before her arrest. Her employer and family say she was on holiday. Critics said Johnson's words might prompt Iran to extend her sentence and he since apologised in Parliament twice for the remarks. And I acknowledge that the words are used were open misinterpreted and I apologize. Johnson now says he will appeal to Iran on humanitarian grounds." Isn't this exactly the same gambit we pulled with our cash payment to Iran because of an old disputed military deal, weapons deal? Yeah! So this is just take that was it was also from now i think ours was maybe 10 years later so and this about the chieftain tank yeah well ours was

2:29:46 The money we gave them was the frozen funds. Right, you're right So we had a bunch of frozen... It was always their money but we froze it because of this dispute and so we kept the money they kept demanding it and so he finally gave it to him But now really confiscated Why is this happening now? I don't know I find it rather peculiar Okay well we're gonna make your hole now why yeah get it And then say it's not at all about But she worked for an NGO. Yeah, well we know what that means and she was thrown in jail for trying to start a revolution probably I mean is that what an asset is worth these days? $400 million dollars seems high seems high to me too unless she's really something yeah

2:30:38 She's the head of MI6. I don't think she is that. I don't think so either, it doesn't make a lot of sense unless there is something else involved. There probably another deal or two behind me and that's more than just her but they're not talking about it. No one really ever goes into depth on these stories? No because you can find out anything until speculation which is what we do We're the speculative two. Well, I think we were able to back up our theories usually have most of it covered Yeah, I agree. Hey now did you go ahead? I just want to play one clip that would be my last clip Okay, I got a couple ones you want here okay play those first and I'll get to my last clip all right as if I'm commentary will start with The land of the dollarettes and boy this one is about dollar at this isn't really an incredible clip And it shows you

CHAPTER 40 / 43 Discussion

Canadian Marijuana Legalization and Dealer Compensation

As Canada moves toward federal marijuana legalization in July 2018, a pot dealer named JJ Morris appears on the news to demand "grandfathering" and compensation for "pioneering" the industry. The hosts mock the dealer's claim of living the "Ottawa dream" and his request for respect for his 12 years of illegal activity. The segment highlights the absurdities of the transition from black market to regulated industry.

canada· marijuana· legalization· ottawa· jj morris

2:31:28 In a way, how sophisticated our northern neighbors are in Candanavia and in another way it's just a head shaker that this is even being discussed. Now they're legalizing weed in Canada has it happened yet? Hasn't happened officially No no its happened its long since happened So it's completely legal now It's all good to go As far as I'm con- I know yeah Well there's problems The federal government's planned to legalize and- Nah see I don't think it's legalized yet I think you're wrong You but I could've I'm not saying I'm not wrong But as far as I know it is Let me see We all this is new it's a brand-new guy. I think it's a brief. It's a brand new clip Let me see well here. It is Is marijuana legal in Canada? That's from September that's too long ago. I don't think it's not federally recognized ah Okay, Thank You troll room July July John so it's not done yet now the report the federal government plan next year next year Yes, July 2018 yes

2:32:25 The federal government's plan to legalize and regulate the sale of marijuana has divided the national opinion. Some fear that legalization will lure young people into a life of drug abuse, but my next guest opposes legalization of marijuana for an altogether different reason—that's because he is a pot dealer! JJ Morris joins us on the line to tell us a little bit more about why he wants to keep pot illegal so first off JJ How long have you been a pot dealer? Well, I've Been a popular now for over 12 years For me. It's very good guy great hey

2:33:03 I don't use but it's he has the Canadian accent little thing in there. Yeah, okay? Yeah, I can't do it Hey man me that's been a very successful business to be apart of kind of living the Ottawa dream Oh baby I didn't realize it John the Ottawa dream the Ottawa dream he is an entrepreneur on this on the river or why? What is the Ottawa dream is selling weed business to be a part of kind of living the Ottawa Dream You know, I've got the two bad tube out department and in the glee but you

2:33:43 You know, I'm living proof that being a dealer in this climate, marijuana dealer in this climate is you can make a great go of it. Hey kids become a dealer! But my fear's of course all that about to change. Yeah so why are you a story? What exactly did she brick? Open a store. Why doesn't he open his store? Well, he's actually asking for something else and I have a feeling he might actually get it knowing Candidavia My fear is of course all that's about to change Yeah so why exactly do you oppose the legalization of marijuana

2:34:20 well this is a very interesting all myself and uh... forty k other uh... canadian dealers somewhere not the senate anyways uh... you know we're kind of the guys that started hoping out you-know-where the guys it's still the fire got people interested in in smoking pot here in canada and and although we still provide I be compensated, we need to be grandfathered in on this. We need to be shown a sign of respect for what we've done to get the industry where it is now." Okay so you're feeling like you're the ones who have created the industry? Well yeah, we are pioneers!

2:35:18 I love it. Hey, we should get compensated! You can play clip of the day after you finish this idiot. No i'm done. I'll take the clip of the day. Jeez... I loved it. I want compensation bro. Alright? Yeah he's doing an illegal activity jerk. I was a pioneer man. What's up with that and what was he in the Glebe? What was that? It said glebe yeah there must be some little ritzy neighborhood or something I don't know. Now let's go down under, gay marriage captivating everyone's thoughts but not on every morning show. And a final observation on the same-sex marriage debate from Bob Katter. I mean you know people are entitled to their sexual proclivities you know?

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Senate Tax Bill Debate and Orrin Hatch Outburst

A heated exchange occurs in the Senate Finance Committee between Chairman Orrin Hatch and Senator Sherrod Brown over the Republican tax bill. Hatch reacts strongly to the claim that the bill only benefits the rich, citing his own "lower middle class" upbringing. The hosts analyze the elimination of state income tax deductions, suggesting it is a targeted "payback" against high-tax liberal states like California and New York.

orrin hatch· sherrod brown· tax reform· senate· middle class

2:36:11 Let there be a thousand blossoms blooms for it's up concert Yeah, but I ain't spending any time on it because in the meantime every three months. I First is torn to pieces by crocodile and North Queensland That's right man, it's the crocodiles no one's thinking about the crocodiles eating people guys are nuts That's really that's the way he puts it to us every six months. I like that all right then my final one is uh this is from the the conversation in this with the senators about the tax bill that's raging here in the United States and you know we hear all this like even what they will on the face bag and I will start, you know collecting some more to read

2:37:06 You know, the meme is oh it's just giving... It's always the same. It's always the same! Giving a tax break to the billionaire not millionaires to the billionaires and everybody else gets screwed am I categorizing that correctly? Isn't that kind of what i hear all the time? Yes, that's what.. That is the standard response to anything the Republicans offer yes now i will say that having looked at it which i do at least set the proposals I, too wonder that if your calculation includes higher wages to coin a phrase there is no evidence companies want to pay higher wages to anybody. Would you agree? I would agree with that too. They're sitting on profits... And here's another little aspect of this they're not talking about.

2:37:53 They're not going to let you deduct your income tax from state income. This doesn't apply to you, but it applies to me. My California State Income Tax. And remember I told you this and said nah that'll never happen? Do you remember that? Well it hasn't happened yet has it? Okay well they passed it in the House. It's halfway there. Yeah, and this is the point. Here's what here's what they're talking about it in California old Nancy Pelosi and Feinstein And everybody's all bent out of shape About how all you know This is just screwing over California because we pay high taxes and then we won't be able to deducted nobody ever mentions that don't you think this might be paid back for being a

2:38:36 the one state that voted overwhelmingly for Hillary and hates Trump the most as Hollywood, and all the other haters. And this is targeting California? Yes! It's very obvious Yeah but no one said... No one has said that Not just California but New York and there are tons of Democrats there Which is another big liberal state And what other...so is Washington? No, that must be tax-free. No, Washington's no...although Washington should be targeted but there's no personal income tax in Washington, Nevada, Florida, Texas. There's not that many that have none. God I love it in Texas! So Orrin Hatch is the chairman of the panel and he gets really mad at Senator Brown

2:39:22 And I just thought it was worth listening to. We don't, when we listen to the Prime Minister's question times and people are hooting and hollering yelling and screaming this is finally a little bit of action in our own Senate. And i just think you would be nice tonight before we go home to just acknowledge well this tax cut really is not for the middle class its for the rich And that whole thing about higher wages, well it's a good selling point. But we know companies don't just give away higher wages they just don't give away higher wages because they have more money. Corporations are sitting on a lot of money now they're sitting on a lot of profits now I do not see wages going up so just spare us the bank shots spare us the sarcasm and satire. I'm gonna spare it but I am gonna say to you that uh... I come from poor people

2:40:10 And I've been here working my whole stinking career for people who don't have a chance. And I really resent anybody saying that I'm just doing this for the rich, give me a break! I think you guys overplay that all the time and it gets old and frankly yada quit. Mr Chairman the public believes- No wait a minute, I'm not through I get kind of sick and tired of it. True, it's a nice political play... Well Mr Chairman, with all due respect, I get sick and tired of the richest people in this country getting richer and richer... Regular order! Order! We do attacks on middle class and over again. How many times do we do that? Listen, I want you to spout off here

2:41:00 And what you said was not right. That's all I'm saying, I come from the lower middle class originally we didn't have anything so don't spew that stuff on me i get a little tired of that crap and let me just say something if you didn't... If we work together we could pull this country out of every mess it's in and we can do a lot of the things that you're talking about too and I think I've got a reputation for having worked together with Democrats Let's start with Chip Not starting with Chip. I did it, I've done it for years. I've got more bills... Start with Chip today! I got more bills passed than everybody on this committee put together and they've been passed for the benefit of people in this country Now all I can say is that like you personally very much but I'm telling ya This bullcrap that you guys throw out here really gets old after a while to do it right at the end of this was just not right No

CHAPTER 42 / 43 Discussion

Putin's Bridge to Crimea and Media Stereotyping

CBS News reports on the construction of a $3 billion bridge connecting southern Russia to Crimea, framed as a "land grab" by Vladimir Putin. The hosts criticize the segment for using "fat, slobbering" Russians as man-on-the-street interviews, comparing it to how New York media stereotypes Southerners. They note that the bridge is a significant engineering feat co-financed by Chinese interests as part of the "One Belt, One Road" strategy.

vladimir putin· crimea· russia· cbs news· stereotyping

2:41:56 And I just, it takes a lot to get me worked up like this. He was channeling you a little bit there. Bullcrap! Going on and on... It was great. I liked it! I thought that was finally some action Yeah, that was good. We just need more of that we may get more eventually I hope so the boat let my last clip is the this is a Russian bridge clip This only displayed on CBS to let us know what's going on Putin his bill is called Putin's Bridge He's building a bridge from the southern part of Russia to Crimea Ah, yes. There's no real easy way to get there so he's willing to... We don't want to go through pesky Ukraine So he's got a huge bridge that he is building and wants it done as fast as possible but there is an element at the end where they bring in some locals And I wanna make a comment about after this clip is over

2:42:45 Russian President Vladimir Putin thumbed his nose at the world when he took Crimea from Ukraine and it looks like he plans to hold on to it forever. Based on the bridge, he's now building Elizabeth Palmer went to the construction site in Russia 24 hours a day in three shifts, workers are racing to build a colossal bridge 12 miles long and strong enough to resist ferocious winds earthquakes and ice. There is no doubt that this bridge is an engineering feat, a really impressive technical achievement but it's also a bold political statement

2:43:25 The bridge will connect southern Russia to the Crimean peninsula, which until 2014 belonged to Ukraine. Then in March of that year Russian troops seized Crimea After a hasty referendum President Putin announced it was now part of Russia At home he was hailed as hero while outside Russia he was condemned But even when America and its allies slapped on sanctions He didn't back off This $3 billion megaproject shows he's doubling down on the land grab. The bridge due to open next year will be Crimea's umbilical cord to Mother Russia. Trains, cars and trucks crossing this giant span will carry everything from food

2:44:12 to tourists. Already it's a source of pride and the local attraction at a lookout on the shore Vladimir Kurilkov and his friends have come to marvel and pose for pictures. Absolutely, the bridge underlines that Crimea is ours he tells me and we are never giving it back Okay, now that's an interesting story. But the thing that got my attention were there four Russians they had at the end and they were talking they're all proud They were looking at this thing therefore of the fattest guys I've ever seen in my life

2:44:51 They are like, and I think this is done on purpose. Prototype Russians? Is that the idea? I think this is what the new model's going to be because it's what the media always does like if they go to do a story in Texas one of the New York networks say they always find some one-toothed got talks kind of like this. Oh yeah my mama lives in that same house we live in And so you get these morons, and especially when the northern networks play South. Anybody from the south Alabama Mississippi is always some one-tooth dummy in a one room shack. So you go to these places never been to the South, where's all this one room shacks and these toothless people?

2:45:29 So I think they decided to stereotype the Russians as big fat guys. They all look like Berk Holter in the old Hogan's Heroes show, big fat guy with a fat face. super fat face, slobbering. And that is gonna be what they're gonna use from now on when I saw this and said this is bullcrap there's no way that you know this represents anything but these guys themselves Russians aren't big fat guys! It's just a people mind. But you've accidentally stumbled on something pretty big without even knowing it

2:46:12 This is going to be an important part and extension of the collaboration with the Chinese. With the three belt no road! Three belt, no road? This is very- this is a very big deal And the Chinese are co-financing Yes sir! Ah... Yes sir Co-financing. Ah Boom count one for you Sir good work It's an unbelievable world All we do is deconstruct it And we'll do that again for you, uh... only we'll be deconstructing the show on Thursday. and that will be on the stream at the regular time and on the podcast as usual at the regular time as well. And I want to thank everybody who supported us! Thank You Troll Room! Thank you-

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No Agenda Sign-Off and Thanksgiving Wishes

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak conclude the episode with final details for the London meetup and Thanksgiving wishes for the audience. The show ends with a "bloody well right" Supertramp clip and a chaotic "control room" montage featuring various show drops and humorous audio glitches. The hosts remind listeners to tune in for the special "Show X" on Thursday.

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2:47:03 Infrastructure dudes named Ben and thank you John have a great trip. Thank you And coming to you from downtown Austin, Texas We are the capital of the drone star state in the common law condo in the five-by-nine Cluedio FEMA region six on the governmental maps in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and for northern Silicon Valley well see you in London on Friday night Friday at 6 o'clock in a pub that will be put in an email then Anyone interested, put London LODON in the subject line to an email if you're not on the mailing list. I'm John C. Dvorak We return for Thursday with Show X right here on No Agenda Until then have a great Thanksgiving if you celebrate it and adios mofo's! Right? You bloody well right You got a bloody right to say Right? You bloody well

2:48:11 You know you got a right to say, Google Right. Ha ha! You're bloody well right. It could be wrong, right? Right? Right? You know you got a right to say, bloody well right. You know you gotta right to say... Right, right? Safety check, right? You've got the bloody rights to say... Right? Right?! You've got the bloody rights to say... Right, yeah. Well I like this guy. The reason they use these algorithms right is because there's just so much on the internet right now. Okay let's go!

2:48:56 What's going on? Why am I losing this? Why don't i have sound all right it's back someone's pressing buttons and turning my sound up. Someone in that control room is out of control Control Room what do you got? There's insanity in the control room The Labor Day sale, save on everything store-wide The woman talking in my ear was talking about the labor day special Who's got a hammer? Where's the hammer?! Stop the hammering! Stop the hammering! How do you say this guy's last name? Dvorak. Hello! I'm out, bro. We did blow that one up. Bomb them. We need to kill and bomb them. Bomb them. We need to kill and bomb them. Bomb them. We need to bomb them. We need to kill them and bomb them again

2:50:08 The best podcast in the universe! Wow, I am really high.