Episode 974 · Thursday, 19 October 2017

iPoop

Corporate synergy shields the Mandalay Bay narrative while Hollywood faces a long-overdue reckoning and the CIA fights to keep the JFK files under lock and key.

By The No Agenda Show | 2h 59m listen | 36 chapters
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The No Agenda Show · No. 974

About this episode

MGM Resorts International and the Ellen DeGeneres Show face scrutiny following a highly scripted interview with Las Vegas security guard Jesus Campos. The appearance, which featured corporate giveaways from Shutterfly and the NFL, is characterized as a controlled public relations event designed to protect corporate interests rather than a journalistic inquiry into the Mandalay Bay massacre. Skepticism remains regarding the timeline of the shooting and the lack of access granted to traditional news outlets.

The Me Too movement gains global momentum as new allegations against Bob Weinstein lead to his resignation from The Weinstein Company, while archival footage reveals Courtney Love and Corey Feldman issued early warnings about Hollywood misconduct years ago. In Washington, the CIA reportedly requested that President Trump delay the release of 31,000 sealed JFK assassination files required by the 1992 JFK Records Act. Meanwhile, Attorney General Jeff Sessions testified before the Senate regarding the Steele Dossier and Russian troll factories, such as Black Matters US, which allegedly stoked racial discord during the 2016 election. International reports from the Netherlands highlight a surge in asylum seekers claiming LGBTQ status to avoid deportation and ongoing seismic damage in the Groningen gas fields.

Dr. Oz staff members recently discovered that mobile phones used in bathrooms harbor bacterial colony counts exceeding 109,000, a finding that prompted host Adam Curry to vow an immediate end to the habit. The episode also features a 10th-anniversary "Double Tap" promotion, where donors like Gage the Eagle Scout were elevated to the No Agenda peerage. The show concludes with a peculiar anecdote about an ant invasion in Austin and the peppery taste of accidentally consumed insects.


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CHAPTER 01 / 36 Discussion

Atmospheric River Forecast and California Wildfire Relief

A massive atmospheric river is forecasted to hit the Pacific Northwest and Northern California, potentially bringing rain and snow to areas devastated by recent wildfires. The hosts discuss the timing of the storm and the use of "rain sticks" to encourage precipitation in drought-stricken regions. The weather pattern is expected to move from the West Coast toward Austin, Texas, following historical trends.

atmospheric river· california fires· rain sticks· weather forecast· austin· silicon valley

00:00 This is on network TV. Adam Curry, John C. Devorah. It's Thursday October 19th 2017 this is your award-winning Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 9 or 7 for... This Is No Agenda. ...to calibrate our equipment and broadcasting live from downtown Austin Tejas in the capital of the drone star state in the Cluedio In The Morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley where it's cold overcast and gloomy I'm John C. DeVore. Yeah, but is it smoky? No, not smokey. Maybe smokey someplace else was not smokey here. Man we got to recalibrate! We're off the rain sticks. Well its supposed to rain. But listen to this the headline atmospheric river to wallop northwest with a rain and snow

00:58 We were a few degrees off, but it's coming. Like a week? Yeah, but it had to build up! I mean come on we did a massive rainstick shake for the fires in California Well you did the most... I did yes and you know what that means is once it starts raining there It's gonna be pouring in Austin it always happens But I'm okay with that yeah so you think this is You're up above sea level Do you think this thing is going to make it to California That storm? Well, I hope not. What don't you? I hope it makes it to the fire Yeah To the fire and stop at the water so you don't get wet is that what you're saying? Don't go into the city Although the city could use it to wash away some of the poop. Poop! yeah we've been seeing new stories here about People dying in as it's San Diego Is that where the count has started yes people keep dying there

CHAPTER 02 / 36 Discussion

Dr. Oz Germ Test, Mobile Phones and Bathroom Hygiene

A segment on the Dr. Oz show features a germ test conducted on staff members' mobile phones to determine bacterial contamination levels related to bathroom use. The study compares phones of individuals who admit to using devices on the toilet versus those who claim they do not. Results indicate that phones used in bathrooms harbor significantly higher levels of bacteria found in human intestines, raising concerns about the spread of diseases like Hepatitis A.

dr. oz· bacteria· hygiene· mobile phones· coliform· germ test· public health

01:55 From poop? Yes, poop. It's bad. I have a whole series on something that is just similarly disgusting. Okay! Uh... Dr Oz Wait a minute You're telling me you watch Dr Oz?! I'd flip it, they had an... Here's the story. They had a something, I forgot exactly what it was but there was some guy that is gonna be on Dr. Oz and wanted to hear what he had to say. I turn on Dr. Oz and turns out they have fire reports from you know so I never got to hear it but I watched the fire reports when they cut back to Dr. Oz There was this great segment which I recorded Okay? I can't wait to hear all about it Yeah start with number one

02:41 I'm going to go ask the questions here. So, I noticed your hand went up so why do you take your phone to the toilet? I need to escape my children Good reason and what are you typically doing there? Well, I have a company phone so i'm always doing business while i'm doing business It's like a company phone! How long are you generally in the bathroom for It's just a question. On the phone? Longer than I should, yeah. Do you think that you're in the bathroom longer because you're on the phone?

03:21 Yes, absolutely to the point that my legs are numb. Your legs are numb? I love this! So it's not surprising if you were bringing a phone to the bathroom right it's yeah we all like to be distracted when we go to the bathroom that's why we have magazines literally there're magazines written knowing that you read them in the toilet. I have a feeling this story is not going to a good place for those of us who take their phone and sit on the toilet until our thighs are numb Couple things so far. There's a four-parter, so and you complain about the view okay? Now he ends that segment if you can back it up just play the ending again with something I dispute Oh, I'm sorry. I just dumped the clip out. I can get to it hold on at the end last what 10 seconds

04:11 Yeah. To the point that my legs are numb. Your legs are numb? I love this! So it's not surprising if you were bringing a phone to the bathroom, right? It's- we all like to be distracted when we go to the bathroom That's why we have magazines. Literally there're magazines written knowing that you read them in the toilet. That's only Wired John it's not every magazine Only Wired Magazine is published to be read in the toilet. Bullcrap. That is kind of...that is pretty funny Yeah, he throws it in too as if it's fact. This guy by the way does this constantly he always throws out just these little sides that are like factual anecdotes when they're not they're just bullcrap He just makes stuff up yeah so but anyway So now we get started getting into I by the way You mentioned that you...I've never talked on the phone when I'm taking a crap Oh, I don't think this is for talking on the phone. I think just for surfing the web

05:11 Doing email and stuff. I'm sure you don't do that doesn't seem like a thing you would do I on the other hand Yes, I got my phone in there. I got my my Chromebook on the basket with towels It's perfectly balanced You've got my coffee at this sit there sometimes. I'll sit for 45 rooms So I get lost in the moment, so I'm thinking of these guys these people. I think a lot of them are talking on the phone That's what they kind of said maybe there sir. I think there's surfing the web that's you know There's a lot of yeah, okay fine anyway people like to surf the web and on a phone with that little screen, I had more power to it. May I just give you an experience? Just remind you before you continue reminds you that you dropped your phone in the toilet more than once. Yeah, I only think it was only once but it was the brand of the first iPhone. I remember KJ Sir Chris got it for me. I'm still living in London and so I've gotten San Francisco took her back and I was able to get because they weren't available

06:11 And I'm in the bathroom, and I get up and who knows what-I don't remember exactly but it fell in the toilet. Pre flush...and what I-ah! What I wound up doing because a lot of people had any hours that took to the blog immediately What do I do? The idea was to put it in a plastic Tupperware container with kitty litter yeah the phone never worked again No, yeah. Yeah I don't see how it could no but anyway go back to your law of your meaningful little comment about something that makes it okay to sit in the toilet forever and surf the web You had a story I interrupt know no that was the story I was going to tell I was going to tell the story that I dropped my phone In the toilet and I'm sure I'm gonna be horrified by what I learned from dr. Oz

07:07 Yeah, you will be. Although nobody else seems to care because people don't take... well with people do not understand bacteriology and I think there's also this hepatitis A outbreak is related to what we're going to learn here. But I wanted to find out just how sanitary it was to use your phone in your toilet because you guys are all doing it but we're asking that question. So my team and I did a germ test, we swabbed the phones of five staff members who used their phones in the toilet and the phones of five staff members we found who claimed they didn't

07:46 And then we sent them to the lab to be tested, and I have got the results today. We're going to start with the staffers who don't use their phones on a toilet. They clean folks. Again they are claiming this. Hold on a second stop! Now he's already said twice that they cleaned it Claim he's used the word claim. He say claim they don't use a rude. He said this twice He's gonna say it again later. He cannot believe that I find this very annoying and by the way This is despite the crazy numbers that come up. Yeah, he cannot believe that anybody He doesn't say this but you can tell when it keeps saying claim claim claim You cannot believe that anybody doesn't sit on the toilet with the phone because he does mm-hmm

08:35 Anyway, I just find it extremely annoying that he doesn't even trust his own staff to be honest. It's just a to me Just dulled me here this over and over again claimed claim they claim they don't they claim They don't continue don't use the phones on the toilet think they clean folks Again, they're claiming this. We test it specifically for the bacteria found in human intestines and feces Obviously that's stuff you might find flying around in the toilet And we use that same test to figure out if the food or the water is contaminated That's a test reuse right so it's pretty valid and ideally what the number would be under 10 The bacterial count on these phones was an average of 30 So it was more than ideal but not crazy high

CHAPTER 03 / 36 Discussion

Who Wants to Be a Millionaire, Breaking News Interruptions

A critique of modern game show pacing focuses on "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire," specifically the tendency for contestants to over-analyze simple questions. The discussion highlights frustration with television networks that interrupt programs for breaking news without pausing the broadcast, causing viewers to miss key moments or answers.

who wants to be a millionaire· breaking news· television programming· game shows

09:18 Now for the people who do use their phone in the toilet, that's the majority of us You know those answers. I'm gonna give them to you when we come back Oh, no not a tease! Aww, you must have been hating the tease? I hated the tease What's the point if this is so important that you're gonna tease make people wait I was watching something the other day because of these fires locally and then there's some episodes somebody shot somebody in San Francisco. Oh, I'm watching the again...I just was flipping around looking for show material and i caught the who wants to be a millionaire? And they had this very simple question to this guy and by the way that's the worst show ever! The modern Who Wants To Be A Millionaire consists of a guy

10:04 It's like they answer two questions in a half an hour and the guy who answers the question spends most of his time kind of psychoanalyzing himself as he tries to pick an answer. And so they finally get to the point where there is going to be an answer, they break in with breaking news I never found out what the answer was. They interrupted the program and didn't pause the show? It just resumed later? They never paused it nowadays, they just let it roll then they cut back in so I'm always kind of worried when some guy pulls one of these teases when I just want the answer now let's remember that the people who claim

CHAPTER 04 / 36 Discussion

Bathroom Phone Usage, Bacterial Colony Counts and Health Risks

Detailed results from a laboratory test show that mobile phones used in bathrooms can have bacterial colony counts exceeding 109,000, compared to a sanitary threshold of 10. The discussion links these findings to the ongoing Hepatitis A outbreaks in San Diego and San Francisco, suggesting that contaminated devices facilitate the spread of the virus. One host vows to stop using their phone in the bathroom immediately following the report.

bacteria· hygiene· hepatitis a· mobile phones· public health· san diego· san francisco

10:41 that they don't use the phone in the toilet. And by the way, the test I believe he's talking about is coliform. I used to run that test at Union Oil and the coliform tests is a bank of kind of some gels you put all these drops or samples in these little vials and then you cook them for overnight and next day Some of them have reactants, some of them haven't if they have bacteria. And so he's done the test and the number is 30 for the first batch now let's go to part two So we're back revealing the truth about using your phone on a toilet Now Sandra is here she admits to using her phone on a toilet

11:22 Why? Why do you take it in there. First of all I don't put my glasses on, I take it my phone straight to the bathroom. I need to relax. I need to know what was going on through the night when I was sleeping. I just needed a good poop. So how much time does usually take you have a good poop Depends on the day. You know, if it's a rough morning could be about 30 minutes... I thought that five minutes we did on french fries was already a little off color but man you're taking it to a whole new level with this This is on network TV. Yes, this is the Poopcast. Depends on the day you know if it's a rough morning could be about 30 minutes 40 It just all depends on what they're in at 40 minutes absolutely I have to sit there until my legs go numb by watching On my phone and then I release a little bit alright Are you ready to see? The results of people like you who take their phones through toilet To recap folks who don't take their phones to the toilet They claim they don't have a score of thirty

12:24 Yeah, but I get cut off there. Yeah kidding me. What's a miss clip? Let's try the next Four parts of poop. The average Cal in a colony count 109,000 627

13:07 And a hundred and nine thousand. Right? Thirty, a hundred and nine thousand. Big difference! Okay... What- A hundred thirty nine thousand what microbes? No 30 is it's a value okay in the value for passing sanitary testing is 10 That's ten? Ten is the value you're supposed to that you can't go over Well ho ho ho Most importantly, do we know if this was their own microbes or someone else's? The colonies start to grow on these phones. And by the way the number actually he I'm surprised he knew he knows math He should have rounded up it's actually a hundred and ten thousand So here's 110 thousand is the value as opposed to 10 Which is of the value needs for something be sanitary and they most people's phones have around 30 which is I guess you can put up with that

14:08 This is your poop, God knows what. I mean it's your hands from your hands it's from all I know as I listen to this thing I am not using anyone else's phone ever again. Detective Dookie. Detective Dookie! Poop Police. That's right. We'll see you on the case. Now what this tells me is that hepatitis A, which is a component of these not of that particular test but it's a component of how things are spread. It's very and you mentioned the other day can last for days and days in the wild without drying up and dying. These phones are going to be the culprit when it comes to the great spread of hepatitis A. You watch

14:54 People are gonna share phones. And they're going, can I use your phone for a second? Let me just check something. Once you touch the person's phone that is covered with this bacteria... You're gonna transfer hepatitis A to your hands and rub your eyes and boom! You'll have hepatitis A. Everyone took this as a big joke in the audience. Is anybody gonna change their minds? Nooo! Screw that! I like to sit and poop And, uh... no. And by the way what is this with every- there's at least two women that were in this audience that said they wait till their legs go numb? What is that?! Yeah I actually have that if I sit on the toilet too long and that's because of the height of the toilet it's wrong It's not a perfect- it's not a good chair let's put it that way! Then my yeah my legs go numb

15:51 All right, well anyway. So you apparently, your phone must be just a bacterial... Yes! I am stopping that immediately and i appreciate this this took an unexpected turn. I thought this was purely uh you know adolescent dumb humor at the beginning of the show and it turns out this is a public health crisis that needs to be addressed in light of San Diego and San Francisco Exactly and the joke of it is everybody took it so oh what a great gag Oh, they don't have a clue what those numbers are. That's the point. Extremely outrageous And he should have said that to pass it cannot be more than 10 that would have been- He did at the very beginning Okay well I didn't catch it so that wasn't clear enough. That's crazy Yeah Alright we need a PSA Hi, I'm Adam Curry here with John C. Dvorak It is very important you do not poop with your phone and here's why

16:44 It's bad. Or, or we could come up with some kind of device like a bathroom poop case or something like that that could protect people there is opportunity everywhere! He did bring one guy and they had one kind of product he had there is although lot of people don't use these but it was one of those shells case I know what you call them for phone I never use one. And it's made out of a plastic that has got antibacterial chemicals built into the plastic so nothing can really grow on the plastic, but this screen is still what you're touching with your finger and you're grinding around on it. It just makes me want to wash my hands listening to this segment! Yeah, you are a bit of a germaphobe in general... Not really.

CHAPTER 05 / 36 Discussion

Me Too Movement, Harvey Weinstein and Hollywood Misconduct

The "Me Too" hashtag trends globally as women share experiences of sexual harassment and assault following the Harvey Weinstein scandal. New allegations emerge against Bob Weinstein, leading to his resignation from the board of The Weinstein Company. High-profile actresses including Reese Witherspoon and Jennifer Lawrence come forward with personal accounts of abuse within the film industry.

me too· harvey weinsten· bob weinstein· reese witherspoon· jennifer lawrence· hollywood

17:33 All right, you got one more. There's a kicker here I guess? Yeah it is just a little bit of a kicker. Not shaken on that enough proof to get you think twice about using your phone in the toilet? Absolutely not! I'm still taking my phone out. Have I changed anybody's mind with that? Two people all right You're very kind. I'm gonna keep working on you yeah well i appreciate john thank you That's yet another handy tip from your No Agenda podcast Yes, did you catch the me too hashtag no? No I know you know in the face back. Yeah this was a big thing past week explain yes This is in an observation of Harvey Weinstein Hurricane Harvey and his plant

18:20 and exiting on the floor. He, uh... you know he's a nasty dude and so now that women are coming out pretty much everywhere with a story and it's not all necessarily assault or predatory tactics it's douchebaggery for sure but the hashtag me too started trending and you had a lot of women were posting me too, and then they'd expel They would tell their story and I like the MTV group on face bag the private group. I cannot read these because you know there's names in there Holy moly who knew well like give us it

18:59 Like, like, uh... Before we go to the sub, I do have a clip that kind of is over kind of the update on the sexual harassment thing and what i've concluded. And I'm glad you brought this Me Too thing up because what I'm seeing now, what I am observing Is that being sexually harassed is the new status symbol You are the ultimate victim! This is- The victimhood meme continues. I concur So we're finding people coming out of the woodwork trying to come up with anything they can. In fact, some of them are extremely pathetic and you know this is a day they're being sexually harassed but it began it really started rolling with this woman who was a showrunner who Bob Weinstein apparently had a crush on yes and he kept never molested her. This was molesting wasn't the problem yeah and rape

19:52 To a guy who is a pest. There's the difference between molesting and rape, and a guy jacking off just because you're standing there. Into the plant! That's in the plant. That's a big difference between that and some guy who has a crush on a girl And he keeps asking her out no matter how many times she says no which is now Is the same. It now equals, equals. Now it equal that which is bull crap and this is like destroying the society as we live in but let's play the sexual harassment update We turn next here to stunning new developments after the flood of accusations of sexual misconduct against Harvey Weinstein Tonight a woman has now come forward to accuse his brother Bob of sexual harassment and what his lawyer is now saying

20:38 And it comes as two of Hollywood's biggest movie stars, Reese Witherspoon and Jennifer Lawrence are also now coming forward. Here is ABC's Lindsay Davis Tonight, Harvey Weinstein has officially resigned from the board of directors of The Weinstein Company. This after the board fired him last week from his position as co-chairman. Weinsteins lawyer is seen here exiting today's board meeting in New York City. Weinstein has sought treatment for his behavior in Arizona but he still pursuing a claim that he was wrongfully fired from the company Now woman has come forward to accuse Weinstein brother Bob

21:13 According to Variety, Amanda Siegel who worked as a showrunner for the Weinstein Company drama The Mist. Weinstein's brother sexually harassed her in 2016 multiple times she says he made repeated unwanted romantic overtures to her including according to the article she'd come up to his hotel room and repeated invitations to private dinners even after she had said no. Bob Weinstein's attorney responded, there is no way in the world that Bob Weinstein is guilty of sexual harassment and even if you believe what this person asserts there is no way it would amount to that now other Hollywood a-listers are coming forward with their own experiences actress Reese Witherspoon spoke out about sexual abuse she says she suffered by a Hollywood director

21:57 about the anxiety, about being honest. The guilt for not speaking up earlier or taking action. True disgust at the director who assaulted me when I was 16 years old." At the same event Jennifer Lawrence described how as a teenager she was asked to pose in a lineup nearly naked. The female producer told me that I should use photos of myself as inspiration for my dais And Lindsay Davis with us tonight, and now the head of Amazon Studios also resigning after allegations of sexual harassment? That's right. Amazon's Roy Price also resigned today after being put on leave last week after an allegation of sexual harassment David Alright, Lindsay Davis on this again tonight. Lindsay thank you Hey I have a quick little entremont that cuts into this Jeffrey Katzenberg talks about both the Weinstein brothers I will say for the two years that he worked for me at the company interestingly enough

22:55 My greatest issues were with his brother. Bob Weinstein was genuinely abusive with people in my company and I very directly said to Bob, if you actually ever talk to somebody who works in this company again, you're finished And he said to me, are you threatening me? I said no. I'm telling you if you do this again You're done So there's the fascinating thing about this and the one person who did reveal himself in an unacceptable Way to me was in fact Bob Huh? Interesting huh yeah that's very interesting it doesn't surprise me He's probably just a dick! One of these Hollywood douchebags

CHAPTER 06 / 36 Discussion

Courtney Love and Corey Feldman, Hollywood Industry Warnings

Archival clips from 2005 show Courtney Love warning young actresses to avoid private dinners with Harvey Weinstein, an early public signal of his behavior. Additionally, a past interview with Corey Feldman on "The View" is revisited, where he alleged the existence of a pedophile ring among Hollywood's elite. Host Barbara Walters is criticized for her defensive reaction to Feldman's claims during that broadcast.

courtney love· corey feldman· barbara walters· harvey weinstein· pedophilia· hollywood

23:43 power trip, but he's not... He doesn't have that crazy gene. He needs lessons! But they come from the same family so they're gonna have similar characteristics and I'm sure they're both mean-spirited It's unbelievable. Hard to work for You know what bugs me? You know what bugs me the most is there were plenty of people talking about Harvey Weinstein publicly but these people were deemed nuts and all kinds of sexual stuff is going on in Hollywood But whenever someone came out and said it, uh... Nah. He's just crazy. Just nuts here this is 2005 very quick It's I think it was probably the beginning of a comedy central and they interviewed Courtney love Kurt Cobain's wife widow Do you have any advice for young girls in Hollywood?

24:42 Maybe hard to hear if Harvey Weinstein ever invites you to a private dinner at the Four Seasons don't go She said it right there the actual thing he does yeah, then just crazy Courtney love we're not gonna listen to her and I'm The truth is there's this is the thing about covering this news. The way We do yes There are no secrets only information You don't get how I find people saying stuff off-the-cuff days shouldn't be saying and we just take it seriously If you start taking people more seriously, instead of thinking everything is a big joke or everything's a big conspiracy theory. You might get a little further in understanding what's really going on and I think this is the perfect example of it. Actually this is a ridiculous example. I have another one that has always brushed aside that I feel is extremely important and I've been talking about this for 10 years on this show.

25:35 Although this clip is from, uh...is more recent than that. The view when Barbara Walters was still hosting Corey Feldman I'm saying that there are people that were the people that did this to both me and Corey That are still working They're stil out there And they'r some of the richest most powerful ppl in this business And they do not want me saying what i am saying right now Are you saying that they're pedophiles? Yes, and I'm still in this business. That's what yeah And that's what you were saying in your book when you talk to about it Yeah When you talk to me here right now, sorry there There are a lot of parents out here who want to put their kids in this in this business They their kids are cute They're great actors today What would you say to a parent who just has the best of intentions is coming here with their child if you're saying that there's a lot

26:19 of predators in this industry. It's a many feathered bird, okay? Be careful what you wish for that's what I'll tell you! You know don't go into it with naivety... Don't go into it thinking that it's all roses and sunglasses and all that. You're damaging an entire industry! I'm sorry but I'm not trying to. I'm just trying to say that it's a very important serious topic. You said there was one gentleman in the industry who did not take advantage of you he was not a pedophile you said it was Michael Jackson. Yeah, that's funny. And so there you get and there's Barbara of course defending Hollywood. Oh yeah, you're ruining an entire industry! Well she is ruining her industry she does interviews with Hollywood people or she did but not anymore well I got one other clip they are just kind of interesting contrast because this is this is the woman scorned who was not brought into the conversation at all

CHAPTER 07 / 36 Discussion

Gretchen Carlson, Mandatory Arbitration and Sexual Harassment Settlements

Gretchen Carlson discusses the systemic issues surrounding sexual harassment settlements, noting that over 90% of cases result in the victim leaving their career while the predator remains employed. She highlights the role of mandatory arbitration clauses and non-disclosure agreements in keeping misconduct secret and preventing industry-wide reform.

gretchen carlson· fox news· sexual harassment· arbitration· gag orders

27:14 This is Gretchen Carlson, who actually makes it. She tells a different story or she presents a different angle and she doesn't show up on any of these things. Nobody sticks some microphone in her face even though she won a huge settlement from Fox for being harassed by couple people over there I guess but she's got a different perspective on the whole thing And of course where you find this is on book TV and C-SPAN because nobody else is going to discuss anything like this. Over 90% of sexual harassment cases end up in settlements, and what does that mean? That means that the woman pretty much never works in her chosen career ever again, and she can never talk about it. She's gagged now how else do we solve sexual harassment suits? We put in arbitration clauses and employment contracts

28:03 which make it a secret proceeding. So again, nobody ever finds out about it if you file a complaint You can never talk about it...ever Nobody ever knows what happened to you and in most cases you're also terminated from the company and the predator is left to still work In the same position he was harassing you So this is the way our society has decided to resolve sexual harassment cases, to gag women so that we can fool everyone else out there that we've come so far in 2017. Boom! Ha ha ha! Boom count one ladies and gentlemen We're good I only have one more Hillary is doing all of these interviews in the UK for some reason

CHAPTER 08 / 36 Discussion

Hillary Clinton, The Economist Interview and Donor Vetting

Hillary Clinton addresses the Harvey Weinstein scandal during an interview with The Economist, defending the Democratic Party's donor vetting process. She claims no troubling information about Weinstein was available to her or the Obama administration at the time of his contributions. Clinton also shifts focus to President Donald Trump, labeling him a "confessed sexual assaulter."

hillary clinton· the economist· harvey weinstein· democratic party· donor vetting

28:55 Or at least on the BBC and she did a long sit down interview with The Economist, which is for all intents and purposes is British interview. And she kind of reiterates everything with one little extra kicker which could be interpreted however you want from the lizard lady. Let's turn to another subject in the news rather disturbing one. You've said that your shocked appalled by the revelations about Harvey Weinstein. Of course you've distanced yourself, you've condemned what he did but Does it give you pause for thought? How carefully did you check the background of your donors, what are the lessons to learn here. I think there are a lot of lessons for everybody to learn with respect to him specifically he's been a supporter of Democrats for decades as a strong supporter of mine and a strong supporter President Obama and many others And we do vet donors and that shows you what was in wasn't in the public

29:52 a by the revelations. But there is a network of people who know each other well, we're now seeing so many people come out and a lot of them are at least sympathetic to the democratic cause I suppose my hunch is that there's an incuriosity sometimes within groups, within elites left or right where they don't want to ask awkward questions about people their comfortable with no socially you know with our vetting and I know this is true for the Obamas as well We turn down a lot of people. Oh, yeah So if information comes that is you know troubling we act on it and all I can tell you is that no such information came It may have been a well-kept unfortunate secret in entertainment circles That's not true But even some of the women who've come out I've been with them. I'm not I've been at events with

30:53 What? Did she just come out to everybody? No. But even some of the women who've come out, I've been with them. Mm-hmm. I love taking stuff out of context. Exactly! Yeah. I've been at events with them. I know them and no one has ever said anything and so part of it was I guess, as they've all described the fear factor that they wouldn't be believed. They wouldn't tell anybody until finally the dam broke and I can't speak to why it didn't break sooner but now that it has he's facing consequences but I don't want to lose sight of the larger problem you know shining a bright spotlight on just him

31:34 is missing the point. We have a confessed sexual assaulter in our White House. There she goes again! So we can't just say, oh my gosh condemn this one person and move on This is a larger problem in society Yeah And the problem is the ministry of truthiness who just won't report on stuff and the stupidity of people who don't want to find stuff out they just want it handed to them like their mac n' cheese which is why you're all here I presume I'm hoping. Yeah, it's just... oh well. Anyways i found the whole thing to be uh now that the dam is broke as she likes to put it i think a lot of people are looking for some sort- I mean we- The Reese Witherspoon thing was kind of annoying because all she could come up with was when she was 16 she was assaulted by a director and she wouldn't say his name

CHAPTER 09 / 36 Discussion

Hollywood Blackballing, Male Victims and Industry Culture

The discussion explores the power dynamics of Hollywood, where figures like Harvey Weinstein used blackballing and legal gag orders to silence victims. The hosts also touch upon the existence of male victims of sexual harassment in the entertainment and music industries. Some skepticism is expressed regarding the long-term effectiveness of the "Me Too" movement, characterizing some participation as virtue signaling.

harvey weinstein· blackballing· male rape· virtue signaling· hollywood culture

32:36 Now, I haven't done this yet but I know I could just go to the IMDB reverse engineer her age if she's got...if her age is accurate which may or may not be. It might be off a few years but assuming it is you can see who she was working with what she was working on when she was 16 and you're gonna assume it set director if she was working for anybody or maybe she was just doing Yeah, I don't understand that either. Why won't you call the person out? Unless it wasn't that egregious or was it? I don't know her story. People called out Harvey Weinstein left and right no matter what Hillary said and you proved it with that clip earlier. It was also shown in 30 Rock had a bit about it Letterman did a whole bunch of interviews with women he knew were attacked by Weinstein on his show

33:27 including that little Jennifer Lawrence girl. So it wasn't anything that was a shock to anyone and the reason for that is what's Weinstein gonna do? He's not gonna do much other than blackball you, which he can do which is pretty powerful or pay you off which he did with a number of people I guess. Which is also pretty powerful Yeah, it's very powerful. And the gag order comes in play which is what Gretchen was bitching about and so you end up with... but it's not as though you don't know what's going on and generally speaking if somebody actually did that to you have a legal case against them and then what are they gonna do? Sue you for liable?!

34:11 He tried to rape me. Well, unless it's bull crap you need witnesses and he said she said people are worried about their careers I love this so much for now whenever anyone says that that's just a conspiracy theory someone would have talked you know there's too many people who knew I said just like Harvey Weinstein seriously yeah everybody talks shut up but everybody knew everybody talked well what happened And people do talk. This is very good, this is very good for a lot of things except for the women who are abused which is horrible and the men

34:48 You know yeah, we haven't gotten to that yet. No I mean my buddy Jack He posted because he's engaged this stuff he posted about how a record boss grabbed his crotch you know how There was an AR guy invited the band you know well Holly I play for me great And then some record exec or did he call the next day? It was like hey it was great you guys come up here and The president of the label wants to know if your keyboard players gay cuz they'd like a date with him Yeah is all this kind of bull crap just as horrible and physically assaulting someone that's bullcrap yeah it happens It happens. Well, there is a thing known as male rape. Yeah well I don't know we don't need to harp on it because it's women's turn this century We're done! That's actually what would happen that's actually you just nailed it that's what would have happened that's what would happened it'll happen This will get into the news once the other thing starts to slow down but the women are gonna say oh there's the men trying to draw attention Wow you talk just like all women that's fantastic how do you do it?

35:53 Yeah, exactly. So what's gonna happen? Well you know... Right now it's just a free-for-all and we get to see what comes of it I mean everybody... But I see it tapering off! Why is Jane Fonda being interviewed over and over about this?! None of these people are really calling anyone out y'all happened to me but no one I see very little name namage I see none. Except Harvey Weiss and now Bob. There are so many douchebags, so many douchebags. No there are! But this is nothing new but you can't change it just overnight. This is a long process. I don't think the Me Too thing was very effective. I think its virtue signaling as you say, theres some victimhood in there. Status symbol.

36:49 I also know women who didn't do it, who said that they don't want to participate in that. And they see this and say well I went through some shit and thats life and I've learned from it and Im a better person for it but dont necessarily want to be out in the me too crowd which is nothings going to come of You know, rip all of Hollywood apart. Do it! Now is the opportunity. People are... It's not gonna happen, pussies. It's not gonna happen? The money-making operation. Get all the beautiful people who all push together in the same room and weird things happen. Yes, and people want to see it so they pay money They go to the big movies. They'll pay I don't know what do you have to pay to go see a IMAX film nowadays 25 bucks 15 here at the theater That's at the museum yes, but it's 15 is beautiful not 15 here AMC gotcha

CHAPTER 10 / 36 Discussion

JFK Records Act, CIA Disclosure Delay Request

The CIA is reportedly urging President Trump to delay the scheduled October 26, 2017, release of the final 31,000 sealed files related to the assassination of John F. Kennedy. Under the 1992 JFK Records Act, these documents are legally required to be made public after 25 years. The hosts speculate that the documents will likely remain redacted or be further delayed.

jfk records act· cia· national archives· john f. kennedy· declassification

37:52 Alright, so there's that. Yeah. Hey did you hear about... I only don't really have any details Apparently the final 31 thousand files that are sealed in the National Archives under the 1992 JFK Records Act on October 26th these are supposed to be 25 years and it is supposed to be made public And from what I understand, the CIA is urging the president to delay this disclosure for another 25 years. Yeah of course! There's nothing to see here... Gee, I wonder why it would be the CIA who wants us to- Don't look over here! Nothing to see here! That's insulting! Gee yeah well hmm gee do you think? You THINK?! Do you want to take bets on what's going to happen?

38:43 You go. Does anybody think that this stuff's gonna be, the actual thing is going to be released unredacted in October 26th? Well is that not the law? Is that not what it on the books? I don't care what's on the books! I'm just asking do you think this is gonna happen Gee, I don't know. Oh strange fire just took place. Yeah yeah it's like the NASA moon landing tapes but we lost them! We don't know where they are i'm so sorry or maybe they go in and they'll be like Geraldo's vault and there's nothing in here In fact Geraldo could do that. You can always find that there is nothing there. Geraldo should do this show It got stolen by the Russians Awesome yeah blame it on them

39:34 The Russians. I'm all over it! The Russians are the ones who killed Kennedy And it's on our big 10th anniversary Yes, isn't that wild? Our 10th anniversary which is October 26 will be the day that the Kennedy documents won't get released It will be commemorated It makes the show even more relevant That was the day when they did not release the Kennedy files Yeah you're right It's a bet I won't take For sure. Well, here's another one since we mentioned the Russians I want to make this segue and then i'll let you take over but none of the networks except ABC seems to have picked up on this story

CHAPTER 11 / 36 Discussion

Russian Troll Factory, Black Matters US and Social Discord

Congressional investigators allege that a Russian "troll factory" in St. Petersburg created groups like "Black Matters US" and "Black Fist" to stoke racial tension during the 2016 U.S. election. These operations involved hiring American fitness trainers for self-defense classes and commissioning music videos from local rappers to promote discord. The strategy is identified as a counter-intelligence effort to co-opt and undermine legitimate social movements.

russia· black matters us· black fist· congressional investigators· st. petersburg· troll factory

40:18 Or they, none of them wanted to do this. I don't know what the deal is with this story because the story needs a lot of interpretation but it says... The clip is black matters but it should be black matters. Racist slip there yeah. I didn't know about that. The M is next to the N so um Play this clip and tell me what you think. A stunning claim tonight about just who's behind the group promoted in this music video, Black Matters US. Congressional investigators say Black Matters US was actually set up by the Russians during the 2016 election to stir up racial tension. It's not fair I don't think it's fair

41:19 The St. Louis rapper who wrote the music for the video says he got Instagram messages from people he did not know asking him to write a song dealing with police brutality I had no clue that it was, it was Russian or anything like that No sir, it messed me up. All part of a sophisticated campaign that included Facebook ads Twitter posts and efforts to organize at least two big rallies one against police brutality US investigators believe he was directed from this so-called troll factory in st Petersburg Russia as a way to suppress votes And Stoke feared the level of sophistication That I don't think we appreciated

42:00 Investigators say the Russian factory also is behind these YouTube videos first reported by The Daily Beast aimed at black communities attacking Hillary Clinton Speakers claim to be in Atlanta, but investigators think they may actually be people hired by the Russians in Africa And the Russians remained busy even after After the election, another Russian group called Black Fist organized self-defense classes supposedly for protection against the police. Five American fitness trainers were hired to run them They paid me $320 for a month four classes. Taking advantage of people who really care about the community? Right! It's very sneaky it's very sneaky and very underhanded

42:45 And in fact, Brian the Attorney General Jeff Sessions was asked today on Capitol Hill if he believes the US is prepared for what the Russians continue to do. Yes David, he had a stark answer probably not He said we're not he said The midterm elections are just over a year away and there is still no national strategy To deal with the issue David. Brian you'll stay on it now before we discuss this ludicrous crap CNN got the same memo, they spun it a little differently and didn't have the music video part to it. In January of this year well after the presidential election New York martial arts instructor Amawale Adewale says he was contacted by a group called Black Fist saying that would pay him to hold free self-defense classes for members of the black community

43:31 Do you ever think this is weird? Yeah, a lot of times I thought it was. Weird but the money was good $320 a month paid direct through PayPal and Google Wallet to teach just four classes and Blackfist would promote it What was also weird no ear from black since when his reporting Does journalism at any point include the word weird? I think using the word weird is a glitch. Yeah, it's a glitch in the brain! You can't do that in a serious report. That was weird, let me tell you man... That was WEIRD Bill This is podcast quality And Google Wallet Yeah, that's really weird and suspicious To teach just four classes I think that's actually the hallmark of conspiracy theory when people start throwing that in

44:21 Weird, curious, strange. The mainstream is doing that! Hello? What was also weird, no one from Blackfist ever showed up to meet him. His only communication was in text and far away sounding phone calls from this man named Taylor." The digital trail suggests the contact on the phone was part of a Russian propaganda arm seeking to stoke racial tensions and disrupt the US political system CNN has confirmed that social media accounts connected to Blackfist

45:03 are among the pages Facebook identified as coming from Russians according to a source familiar with the matter. Links to those accounts appear on the Black Fist website And Black Fist, which portrayed itself as an activist group seeking to empower black Americans was likely developed inside the Russian troll factory in St. Petersburg Russia Look at what Black Fist said about its self-defense class Just look! They are by black for black and let them know that black power matters The Russian magazine RBC first identified Blackfist as well as dozens of other Facebook, Twitter and Instagram accounts designed to look and act like real Americans. Not the fake ones! Propaganda troll factory operating out of this building in St. Petersburg employs hundreds of people running fake Facebook accounts, Twitter accounts, Instagram and Tumblr accounts designed to look and act like real Americans

46:01 spewing out messages aimed at sowing discord among the American electorate. I am a fake American and proud of it. Tumblr? Tumblr. So we got to count the money now $100,000 for the ads 320 for the Blackfist... Yeah 320 bucks a month A month! Oh let's just say it's three thousand then ten months so that's one hundred thousand three one hundred three thousand and twenty dollars Well, I think that writer who did the work...although CNN for some reason didn't cover what i think is the more interesting half of the story which is Black Matters US. Yes! Well wasn't that the outfit that mimicked Black Lives Matter and then became more successful?

46:45 That is the that is the strategy for counterintelligence, which we talked about on this show all the time. Yes yes You create a similar sounding organization and you claim in you claim their same values And then you co-op them yeah, and then you destroy the movement? Yes And Black Matters has just got all the elements. Black Lives Matter, black matters not black lives matter... Black Matters! But they also had a music video I'm telling you that's very sophisticated. I think the music video was hot it was a hot idea Very sophisticated That probably cost them a grand Nahh..I think going rate is $1700 if you want some catering If you're getting guys who are throwing in 20 bucks a month they'd probably get this guy cheap

CHAPTER 12 / 36 Discussion

Uranium One Investigation, FBI Documents and Tucker Carlson

New FBI documents obtained by Judicial Watch through FOIA requests provide a timeline of alleged corruption and Russian payoffs related to the Uranium One deal during Hillary Clinton's tenure as Secretary of State. The hosts note that Tucker Carlson is one of the few mainstream media figures covering the story extensively. They discuss the potential risks Carlson faces for covering controversial topics like pharmaceutical companies.

uranium one· hillary clinton· fbi· judicial watch· tucker carlson· corruption

47:33 That's unbelievable. Plus catering! Hey man, I know my budgets... We bring in our own brass section Yeah now so along with that comes and this is you know there's no clips because there's no clips is uh the uranium story is back and you know everyone's acting like this is the other shoe that was supposed to drop after we found out that Hillary Clinton knew about Harvey Weinstein This, the uranium story is interesting to me because it's old. It has been around for a long time. It is very old story yes back from when she was Secretary of State yeah and its good story and makes nothing but sense that it was a story of corruption But now the FBI has confirmed through documents they had released that those lawyer guys I like alot Judicial Watch forced them under

48:31 FOIA and they had released these documents were somewhere else it buried in another file. And so they were clearly being obfuscated, and now they show the timeline etc., and they were already looking at corruption and collusion but mainly corruption payoffs from the Russians for this very deal! Yeah. And the Clinton cash guy who wrote about it in his book... It's like a hundred forty five million dollars at least that we know of. Yeah, it's unbelievable. But but it's getting no legs and no play that I really am baffled by this because if you were in the media running one of these operations and you were the editor-in-chief whatever you want to call a guy This seems like a great story that you could really get distance. You could really have time with this Well there is only one guy doing it Only one Tucker Carlson

49:28 He's the only guy that's on this. He's also... Yeah, he's marginalized himself. But he-he's gonna be off the air? The boy is out there talking about drug companies! And not just a little bit like really... A mistake. Yeah, big mistake is this that show was so canceled Hey Tucker look at the bread yeah see where it's buttered Really man like you can go far but you know Ixnay on the Uggdrays This really is a very dumb idea, but I mean it's great and I applaud him for it But he'll never make it to the finish line. Never He's popping not gonna he's gonna be stopped dead at that halfway point. He's peaking too quickly He's got to go easy on this pull back a little man You want to do if you're gonna do something like with that just strategize that Tucker

50:16 You have to get your, maybe he knows he's on a sinking ship. It was possible because it is one trick pony so there's possibly says to himself look I'm a one-trick pony this is not gonna last I'm not about Riley I don't have a formulaic show that can make tons of money with I'm gonna die here but I might as well get this out of the way right otherwise did the normal strategy is to get bigger and bigger and bigger and so big that you could nothing you do gets kicked off it took a lot of work to get O'Reilly And it was always just sexual bullcrap. So this is maybe what he's thinking, because I don't think he has legs in that show. He can get guests. Somebody was tweeting about some woman I follow who is a writer or something, producer

51:06 And she says, Tucker Carlson invited me to this show. There's no way! And she goes into a rant about it and she's kind of like I'd say conservative. She's not like a liberal that's gonna get you know he ambushes people as an ambush style journalist so now he's...I don't think that shows gonna make it so he's probably doing that for that reason I'm just thinking. Well good, because he'll get a few hits in there. Uh...I think was it yesterday or the co-founders of GPS? This is all tied into it this why you're not hearing about any of it The report! THE REPORT! The report about the hooker's peeing on the bed that Obama slept in. The guys who cofounded the company that produced the report are all taking the fifth and not going to testify Of course they're not They don't stand behind their work I guess

CHAPTER 13 / 36 Discussion

Jeff Sessions Testimony, Fusion GPS and the Comey Email

Attorney General Jeff Sessions testifies before the Senate Judiciary Committee, facing questioning from Al Franken and Lindsey Graham regarding Russian election interference and the Steele Dossier. Graham inquires about a potentially incriminating email between the DNC and the DOJ that may have influenced James Comey's actions in 2016. Sessions declines to provide specific details on the matter during the public hearing.

jeff sessions· al franken· lindsey graham· james comey· fusion gps· fisa

52:02 Apparently not. I mean, we can't be reporting this? This would be crazy! Everything falls apart... Isn't Mueller's investigation even for a large part based off of this? Well, Sessions was actually... I have a very short Sessions clip because he was being grilled by the Judiciary Committee on C-SPAN. Not on C-SPAN but you know he was on C-SPAN. And he uh He's a funny character, Sessions because he is very slow talking and they only have a limited amount of time to ask questions So he makes sure to talk real slow. And then one question, I didn't clip it because it was just dead air. Somebody asked him a question and I'm telling you, it was 15 seconds of him staring. Really? Yeah, It was like why are you...and then he asked to have the question clarified which would make sense if he were just staring blank stare. He was asked a number of questions about the dossier from Lindsey Graham

53:03 who asked him if there was a FISA warrant that was issued against Trump. He asked if there was a FISA warrant issued against Trump or the campaign based on information in the dossier and Sessions says he didn't know of anything, which He doesn't know, he says but he'll check into it. He wouldn't...He says he wouldn't have known that so that's gonna be checked out but there was one question that came up and then that was kind of a news to me that would...that's in the mix but Lindsey Graham did ask one question at the very end of his questioning time and I thought this was news to me because

53:51 The hearing was mostly about why Comey was fired and all the reasons he was fired, what they knew about the Russians. The Russian's didn't call me, the Russian didn't call me and this little tidbit came up. So are you sure? Sessions clashed most bitterly with Minnesota's Al Franken Oh actually that's... Stop! That is not the clip I'm looking for but that is a clip we should play so let's play that because that's the background of it. Well I am sorry can ask you the Lindsey Graham question Is that one you want Yeah. Why don't we play that one first? No, no, no, if I thought about it, I would have played the clip you're playing. Okay. We were acting out of the clip. Okay let's play it. ...with Minnesota's Al Franken... Mr Chairman, I don't have to sit in here and listen onto his... You are the one who charges without having a chance to respond

54:42 Give me a break. Franken accused Sessions of changing his story about a meeting with Russia's ambassador during last year's campaign Not being able to recall what you discussed with him is very different than saying I have not had communications with the Russians The ambassador from Russia is Russian. Senators wanted to know how he plans to prevent future election meddling I'll be frank, i don't know that we are doing a specific legislative review at this point

55:19 Do you think it would be prudent to do that? Well, we have been warned. I take that as a suggestion. Republican Ben Sasse asked if the U.S is doing enough to combat Russian interference online Probably not...we're not Sessions did eventually confirm in that hearing that he has not been asked to sit for an interview in connection with the Russia probe, but said he's committed to cooperating and reiterated that he had no improper conversations with any Russians about the 2016 campaign. Anthony? Nancy Cordes on Capitol Hill, thanks! I keep hearing these questions and what they're asking and did you talk to the Russians...I mean we've gone collectively insane that this is unbelievable and Frank is an idiot yeah by the way how can it be what a miserable life you have to be if your name is Ben Sass

56:18 Don't you think? Benzaz, Benzaz. Hey! Benzaz! I don't know if Mnuchin is any better... That's not great. So that was the CBS version of the whole thing, which is always boils down to like anti-Trump kind of action but this is nobody brought this I got from C-SPAN nobody brought this up just Lindsey Graham asked a confidential question. Buzzing about for months now This is very important. I got nine seconds I know that Comey has told other committees that the main reason he got involved in July to take over the investigation was not because of the tarmac meeting, it was because he was worried there was an email in the hands of the Russians between the DNC and the Department of Justice. And I know that testimony exists

57:11 And some claim the email was fake. Do you know anything about this? And is there any way for us to find out what actually happened?" Wait a minute, wait a minute... I know we talked about this What exactly was that email again? Nobody knows. I don't know that we talked about it. Yeah, there was definitely an email and it was faked and stuff had been based off of that. Maybe, possibly have but what's interesting to me is that Lindsey Graham is talking about hearings that were closed

57:49 Because there's no, if you listen to this carefully and read between the lines he says he knows there is testimony. That means it was closed. If it wasn't, he could just go look it up. Right and he's trying to get Sessions to open up about it got it? So there is something that happened in one of the closed sessions with Comey because Comey gave a lot of testimony especially to the intelligence guys in close session so nobody knew what was going on Lindsey Graham got wind of it or knows about it and maybe that's what we talked about earlier, this email between the DNC and the Justice Department which is probably incriminating somebody.

58:30 That's why Comey jumped into the email scandal so he could make sure that it was either erased or there was no trace of it, or we're figuring out who has it. Who knows? We don't know but let's... There must be something to it because of Sessions' reaction. And the Department of Justice and I know that testimony exists And some claim the email was fake. Do you know anything about this? And is there any way for us to find out what actually happened?" Without suggesting one way or the other that I know anything about it, uh...I would just say that would be improper for me to share at this time if i knew. We just stopped he said can't share whatever we know right For some reason he's sharing everything else Well the thing is unraveling

CHAPTER 14 / 36 Discussion

George Soros, Open Society Foundations and Philanthropic Funding

George Soros reportedly transferred $18 billion to his Open Society Foundations, a move that the hosts analyze through the lens of political influence and tax-exempt non-profit structures. The discussion touches on how small organizations receive funding through complex philanthropic networks. Soros's background as a hedge fund manager is cited as the foundation for his strategic approach to social and political investment.

george soros· open society foundations· hedge funds· non-profits· investment strategy

59:22 Something's unraveling. And maybe that's what Mueller is in there for, to kind of plug the leaks. There is something up and it's not minor and I think Trump is oblivious to it but people like Lindsey Graham are not. Of all people who go after these things he's not a... Guy I would expect. I'm really, i'm just really getting tired of it you know they have nothing there's nothing new and the only thing that they have new is oh black matters and uh brush well here's something new for ya how about George Soros? Just transferred 18 billion dollars to his open society institute yeah Yeah, that's a pot load of money

1:00:11 Yeah. We should think of starting up an operation Well if I were Black Matters, I'd be pissed 320 measly bucks You creep That's black fist Oh black fist? Yeah...black f- I feel black fisted This is just bad. I mean, does anyone see? There's got to be some real gravy train operations out there that know how to... Look! I cohabitate the love of my life does this for a living you set up well she doesn't do this but we have an awesome you have tons of these you have the Dell Foundation The Dell Foundation is the mother load big big big these guys are great

1:00:54 Not only do they have the Jell Children's Hospital, and they do a lot for Austin and Texas. And for the universe! But at the same time, I can probably point to 20 non-profits anywhere between $100K a year and maybe 1.5M. And they all do little things, little non profit things...usually one or two people! They suck up the money and with the Soros thing it's these little black fists, black matters that could even come through As third hand, I mean we trace this back all the time through the form 990s. Which they have to release for tax purposes you can see exactly where it goes and it's all in the hundreds of thousands of dollars

1:01:37 But that's how you do it. It's not that hard, we just have to have a hook so I think if- Well some people who do good operations the way I'm looking at it... Do it by the millions of dollars Oh yeah! If you know what your doing but were just small guys Well thats the point Im thinking of retirement and im thinking we should do The Black Fist Podcast PFP The Black Fist Podcast Hello! I am Mr White Here is my other Mr White Its The Black Fist Podcast It seems to me that there's a lot of people that know how to get on the tit and get the millions at a pop, bang-bang. So you've seen it. Every once in awhile we run into some unknown operation and you look up the 990 and they're like $45 million budget.

1:02:24 Or 450 million, give or take 100 million for a Southern Poverty Law Center. Another outfit that hands money to people! Yeah yeah maybe in this whole tax thing we can... I guess not we're such a philanthropic country it's just as being abused i don't like it's being abused It is being abused and I think Ensoros is like making it worse The problem is Soros and his political agenda, it's just he doesn't... you know you have to remember what does Soros do for a living? He's a hedge fund guy. He only cares about making a ruckus so that he can make money I don't think he has some ideals but seems like he just follows his nose and goes where the stink is. Now I can make a mess over here although he did... I could benefit some other way yeah

1:03:15 There's a certain number of investment types out there that you run into, very rare. But they have a second sense or third sense or fourths I don't know what number it is but they can see certain opportunities appear in the kind of like ah if this happens and that happens then this will happen for sure and its always has to be for sure. And then if that happens for sure than this company over here of the way, not even part of this scheme. It's gonna go gangbusters. We'll benefit big time! Yes And that's what you do for a living. That's all you do and that's what Soros does he finds ways He trades money. He just it does everything he can to make make as much as he can with very predatory investment schemes and with that I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C stands for can only podcast from money Dvorak well

1:04:14 Well, in the morning to you Mr. Adam Curry also in the morning all ships at sea boots on the ground Shubs in the water and all the games nights out there in the morning to the chat room Hello No agenda stream calm we now have the iOS 11 link up there if you're looking to play this show on your phone And thank You Apple for breaking that and in the morning to cesium 137 cesium 137 brought us the artwork for episode 9 or 7 3 title of that one Exit on the floor. Thanks Harvey Very nice revolver with pills in it It's a it's kind of a variation of a theme, but as far as we can tell pretty much original Artwork and was more than pretty much. It was originals art and probably fairly original thinking that he sees him is really good at this Yeah, yeah so it's very good Thank you no agenda are generated comm and would really appreciate the work that all of our artists do

CHAPTER 15 / 36 Discussion

No Agenda 10th Anniversary, Double Tap Donation Promotion

The hosts announce a "two-for-one" donation credit promotion in celebration of the podcast's 10th anniversary on October 26. This "Double Tap" offer allows supporters to reach milestones for knighthoods and executive producerships more quickly. A notable donation of $1,123.58 is recognized for its use of the Fibonacci sequence, and a new Baronet of the Principality of Saratoga is established.

no agenda· 10th anniversary· donation· knighthood· fibonacci· saratoga

1:03:15 There's a certain number of investment types out there that you run into, very rare. But they have a second sense or third sense or fourths I don't know what number it is but they can see certain opportunities appear in the kind of like ah if this happens and that happens then this will happen for sure and its always has to be for sure. And then if that happens for sure than this company over here of the way, not even part of this scheme. It's gonna go gangbusters. We'll benefit big time! Yes And that's what you do for a living. That's all you do and that's what Soros does he finds ways He trades money. He just it does everything he can to make make as much as he can with very predatory investment schemes and with that I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C stands for can only podcast from money Dvorak well

1:04:14 Well, in the morning to you Mr. Adam Curry also in the morning all ships at sea boots on the ground Shubs in the water and all the games nights out there in the morning to the chat room Hello No agenda stream calm we now have the iOS 11 link up there if you're looking to play this show on your phone And thank You Apple for breaking that and in the morning to cesium 137 cesium 137 brought us the artwork for episode 9 or 7 3 title of that one Exit on the floor. Thanks Harvey Very nice revolver with pills in it It's a it's kind of a variation of a theme, but as far as we can tell pretty much original Artwork and was more than pretty much. It was originals art and probably fairly original thinking that he sees him is really good at this Yeah, yeah so it's very good Thank you no agenda are generated comm and would really appreciate the work that all of our artists do

1:05:11 And today we also have some donations. Now this was a very interesting idea you came up with. Well, I mean it's really a celebration for everybody and I liked it! We got three shows... Today show, then Sunday show and then next Thursday is our 10th anniversary so that's a big deal yeah so I decided to in the last newsletter I thought it would be a good idea to bonus back our supporters with a two for one offer. So whatever they contribute, whatever you donate like if you donated $100, you get 200 credit for $200 and you get an associate executive producership. It's actually costing us money but I like it anyway because we're selling well it doesn't really cost us money to add more. It would cost us time because all these executive producers we have today show is completely out of control. Everyone jumped on this great offer you've got here on the QVC

1:06:05 And so that also means, uh... That you can get a knighthood for $500 for the next- this show. The next show and the show after. And that's it But So we got a number We have 1 2 3 4 5 6 instant knights which is a big deal Yeah! We have had more before but this is great Yeah And every- so the point was Is that anything you donate For these next three shows You can double it for the purposes of knighthoods or producerships. So if you contributed 50 bucks this week, you can add 100 to your total for becoming a knight just to move it along a little bit. We had a few people that took up one guy sent in 10 bucks because he was $20 short. Okay perfect smart money great idea I think it's a fun idea for everybody and the so-called double tap donation

1:07:04 It's funny on the totals. I left out one of them, which I'm gonna add by hand in a note to Eric. Matt in South Bay is our top donor and he's going to become a knight and instant baronet! He gets upped...I actually have to look his email up but I knew I was forgetting something this morning No, you rebooted the router tuned up your instruments that worked fine. We tested did our test read Yeah, we didn't play the testing song but everything else worked What's the testing song? The testing song that we played before the show Oh Don't you know the testing song

1:07:49 Do you know the testing song? I wanna do this song. You ready? Testing, testing, testing... Modulation Testing, testing, testing. Testing, testing, testing. Testing, testing, testing. Testing, testing, testing. Okay. Did you find the note? Did you find modulation? Modulation? I know it's not modulated. This is a massive note he sent an email and then I had to send him back an email saying, Hey, uh, your instant baronet because this check from chase chases are very slow pay,

1:08:37 operation. Really? Yeah, I've noticed this because he sent me a note over a week ago and then the check just came in long time but by the way Chase is also one of the dumber banks there's don't do too much to say we got lots to go through here but i'm going to do this anyway When you get checks in the mail, there's a number of like credit unions and all smart banks that consolidate their checks with one service. And the service sends you an envelope filled with a bunch of checks. Yeah five bucks checks three bucks checks ten bucks checks hundred dollar checks it's bag of checks Bag of checks chase if you're going through chase for your time one at a time one at a time each envelopes separate idiots

1:09:19 It's unbelievable. That's because they're only focused on doing away with checks and cash, they're focused on everything electronic and that's a bastard stepchild going away... Yeah well it's throwing away a lot of money in the process. Anyway Matt writes long time boner hopefully imminent instant night here no nighting necessary I'd like to remain anonymous when we are not used as sir Matt The check is in the mail, hope you enjoy the mathematical numerology. 1123.58 which is his donation $1123.58 for which I believe will be the first use of Fibonacci! Exactly Yes beautiful I recognize it immediately How did you recognize it immediately? I love Fibonacci Fibonacci Lucas Jacobs Thall...I love these mathematicians I've become a math geek in my old age Weird Yes that's how you can report on me

1:10:08 Weird. I'm really hoping to get your attention for an analysis of the Las Vegas event, which i believe is directly coordinated a drop off you may have seen in donations feel free to read any or all on the air with exception of note at the very end and apologize for the length don't worry if ignore the whole thing as I will take no offense so what im gonna do because today's busyness we're going put this note aside and then read it uh... as we do final analysis of the Mandalay Massacre yeah So we'll move him to executive producer and Knight. And his second note did come in, which says he will be the baronet of the Principality of Saratoga. Beautiful! Let me double check that's on the list. He says they figured out this guy was bitching about the check coming in late. Says the bank is mailing checks for free I sent a cheque off last Thursday night... Now wait a minute now who is this? A Pensacola?

1:11:10 This is, no this is Matt of the Northern California. Okay I got that. He's the baronet of the Principality of Saratoga Ah well that's not in there hold on a second No it just go mailed this morning Hold on a second He says he instantly debted me Hold up, Baronet of what? Principality of Saratoga Okay Alright I'm good So they debit his account so they get to float There's no floating, there's not enough action anymore To make that a winning proposition Anyway, I think it's just incompetent. Sure yes okay onward all right on we've got a lot to do David Cox Derby derbyshire 500 so he'll be in this tonight sir Jozo of Derby NJNK thank you T Humphries Wellington Thorndon New Zealand He wants to be knight of the living Wow That's a good one isn't it night of the living dead

CHAPTER 16 / 36 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony, Jingle Requests and Birthday Shoutouts

A series of new Knights and Dames are inducted into the No Agenda Roundtable following the anniversary promotion. The segment includes the playing of custom jingles, such as the "Zika" and "Don't Eat Me Hillary" clips, as requested by donors. Birthday wishes are extended to long-time listeners, including a shoutout for a donor sharing a birthday with Donald Trump.

knighthood· jingles· zika· hillary clinton· birthday· peerage

1:12:11 Best title ever Unbelievable that somebody in 10 years has never come up with night of the living dead. This is very good Somebody's gonna write a scene hey, I did that Joshua Landon and Cincinnati Ohio 500 That's at Tom Frees is 500 Shrek Patel a Lauderdale Florida 5-and-I don't have notes from these folks But if I get them later out now are these people being knighted because they did five hundred yeah They should be I sent Eric his notes saying we should knight these guys, but they wouldn't have done the 500 not to be knighted. Right? But they're not on the list as servants. Sir Landon and sir Patel, Schrag... Also Joshua Landon's not on the list. Yeah. I mean him too. Okay keep going. David Rosa to the B-P-I-T-U NJNK.

1:13:11 Thank you, but you'll be knighted as Sir Rosa. John Holgerty email to follow? Okay well let's see what we have here... Fogerty. Not that unusual. Oh, Holgerty! Oh, I'd be wrong then. Squirrel Mail does not have the AI for that It doesn't it is actually slightly annoying You know that spell misspell uh you wrote a very good article about AI and I just wanted to you wrote a couple of good articles. You should try to make a living out of that About AI a week or two ago and it made such a good point the day when they actually make an email client that understands how to weed through it and get the stuff out That's the day that I believe in AI, and that's the most used application in the world is yeah is email And there's no AI in email. Oh There isn't AI in email only not real AI well. I've come up with something we got to work on it There's no AI and email ooh

1:14:14 I don't know why, i like it. I don't know either all right uh but thank you yes since the donation he writes David uh Hogan Amy and John uh send a donation that you just received a donation represents two quantities of 614 flag day as well as mine and Trump's birthday birthday is when's trump's birthday? I have no idea well his birthday shout out for the both of us! I always get invited to have dinner with him Just I want to pitch in one. You've been five dollars ship in three dollars no no, and the same thing $3 dumb $3 I don't get that I don't get it either somebody's got to explain that there's some research someone did some research Hey It's three times more than one can you put John Hogarty on the birthday list happy birthday? Love this show and the dynamics between you two I've listened a long time even back to daily source code days He says he's a folder ah not a scruncher

1:15:12 I'm a folder to this much better. Yeah, well you should brought that up with the no You know I actually considered it and I thought no I'm not gonna be that guy good Anyway this donation was long time coming additionally ones will appear But I just dropped $600 on Adams podcaster pro campaign right well I hope you didn't because its closed. I hope you know is go you got it back Is this an old? Just came oh my okay He he got the money back. I think Don't know you better ask him. I prefer to be recognized as hoji hung His Chinese hold on sir hoji hung Hoji, I hung Sir and he since he gave 500 he's got a jingles coming if you want some in here they are Hold on hold on hold on sir hoji hung. I just gotta write it into yes

1:16:06 I hate Sir Ho-Ji-Hung. Yeah, you know and I have a whole segment to do later. Yeah, I know. You're making me do work on the fly here. Well it's the letter just came in what am i supposed to do? No no I'm not angry but just... He needs the jingles ready yeah I should've given you these earlier Yes you should have yes go Zika zika zika whoopee get out of my vagina and don't eat me Hillary Okay is it yeah uh whoopie Okay, and what is the uh- Don't eat me Hillary. Okay... And don't eat me Hillary. And karma. Okay.. and a karma? I have your attention please! Yeah. Zika zika zika zika zika yeah! Where's the money? 1.9 billion dollars. Zika zika zika zika zika yeah! Where's the money? Small heads are coming. We're gonna do it you watch. Get out of my vagina! You've got Karma.

CHAPTER 17 / 36 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits, Global Donor Recognition

The hosts read a comprehensive list of Executive and Associate Executive Producers from around the world, including donors from Estonia, New Zealand, and various U.S. states. Specific recognition is given to a donor moving to Austin and another gifting a knighthood to their brother. The segment highlights the diverse geographic reach of the "Value for Value" model.

executive producer· donations· estonia· new zealand· portland· virtual reality

1:17:16 Alright now we move down. Those are all insta nights when I thank each and every one of them Patrick Melly in Bountiful, Bountiful Utah this is the yeah This is the one that This is the one that is actually a make-do it from last week ah I know who this is Yeah, Patrick's son is he was that either? Well maybe I'm not I don't know you got to find a note now. Oh, you're kidding me I'm not kidding. You had to do one thing! Yeah, yeah... He sent a note in passing it- Okay well I'll tell you what we're gonna before we get to the nightings in the second half of this show I think the notes on the other desk I can find it so meanwhile let's go on and by the way that's okay Roy Pierce in Fort Pierce Florida 334 Yes I have the note this is going to be on you

1:18:19 Pierce writes, I sent a note to Curry titled Mandalay Bay Security Guard. Sent to Adam at curry dot com that's his note Yes well i read everything Now well you have to read this note because he is a $334 donor He and I said here on discuss the envelope Roy, Roy Pierce, Roy The envelope that your using the glue does not stick Throw those envelopes away. You know, a lot of people have those you buy these envelopes and staples and you pull the strip off it's got automatic gluing thing just glue doesn't work is no good It was just envelope was not glued together. It was open when I came okay? I have his note. I have his note. I Got it And he put together a His own timeline if what happened in Vegas which we talking about and this was a donation from last week You said cuz that would make sense was from last week

1:19:20 No, it's on Sunday. No, it's Sunday October 15th. Okay I don't know He talks about the assault rifles cooking off you know shooting off rounds without the trigger being pulled because of the hot chamber Yeah yeah so this was discussed thank You Roy appreciate it you probably gave me an idea with that I don't know no oh I see what happened okay? You read the note already because I remember the discussion I guess. Okay, so you got your note read? Yeah. Good. You'll be executive producer. It came in 1039 AM on Sunday so yeah, I read this and we talked about it. Boom! Yes. Boom count two. Boom count three. Anonymous $334.34 Arnis Salmons, Arnis and Talon $330.33 is in the EE which I think

1:20:14 Egypt or Arab Emirates? I don't know what EE is. Tallinn, I don't know. Okay onward Jacobus Bursma Estonia Oh cool! Estonia's great They're very wired in Estonia You can become a citizen can you of Estonia like an electronic citizen I don't know about that. That's kind of cool if you can. Jacobus Boresma in Los Angeles, California at $233 and 50 cents which will be credited doubled up and you'll get your knighthood achieved. Congratulations on 10 years of opening eyes and changing minds your influence on others can't be overstated i'm honored to have enjoyed the ride from the beginning and it was great to chat with John in New York City a few years ago

1:21:02 I'm moving to Austin in a few weeks, so perhaps a run-in with Adam. Wait a minute another Californian coming here? Yeah okay fine Steiner Ranch go there. Go there. Steiner Ranch. That's our inside joke yes Moving to Austin in a few weeks or perhaps a run-in with... Get ya son of a bitch! Having a run-in on the horizon. I'll be on the other I'll be the other tall Dutchman Oh okay Please classically knight me as Sir Jacobus Burisma. Jacobus some karma for the move and the company I started, Zumbi.io is appreciated! Here's another 10 years." I wonder what that is? Zumbi dot IO? Yeah. All right, I'll give him some karma absolutely. Whoa caught that just in time. You've got Karma Discover share learn a platform for people to earn by sharing

1:22:00 Making money on sharing. I'm already all for it. Yeah, yeah touchy-feely Maybe we should become VC maybe we can have fun with that We could harass women Oh yeah, you can harass women and make people wait Make them sit in the lobby for hours Tell everybody that you should think more like and fill in the blank of the hot unicorn of the day Well say unicorn a lot actually will wear unicorn shorts Yeah, we could do it. Sir Mike of the gigaverse I think it's Giga verse Jigga verse you're right 220 2022 cents he'll be a so it'll be an executive producer I can't resist to for sale on top of quality people love the twofer It's a two four everyone loves a two-for yeah they do jingle requests resists We much The reverends bingo boom shaka laka remix and Korean later lady okay, okay? Resist we much

1:22:58 Manning boom shakalaka, right? Yeah and a Korean lady screaming. Mm-hmm Oh that's funny hold on second Boom Shakalaka Yeah, and then Korean lady I should have gone ahead of this one Okay here we go But resist we must And karma We must yeah And we will much about That be committed And BOOM SHAKALAKA BROTHER You've got karma. I don't know. So Dennis Cruz, our buddy in Portland Oregon $201 and 99 cents. Aha! Found the note listed in your last thoughts in a very smunky funky small italics. I will send an email instead okay well

1:24:02 We'll have to look for that. Natasja Haller, $200 and 10 cents a birthday donation on behalf of my brother Nick Hollar aka Sir Veeve of the virtual reality survive survive dog Oh, good. I survive this like night of the living dead survive of the virtual reality his birthday was on Tuesday seems to always be listening to your show when I'm around so supporting you seem like a better birthday gift than video games very good yes smart thinking is that girl knows what she sees yes she'll make her have maybe listen to about four shows worth of material So I hope i'm doing this right? I believe it's favorite clips are

1:24:46 I hope that Tasia, not Natasia. That's real sisterly love man! Yeah she doesn't sit through much of the show. Hug and share a secret pew-pew and shut up slave maybe job for him too since he is searching for an engineering job Okay, there's no winning. We don't like to foster a competitive atmosphere but we laugh a lot now everyone hug and share a secret You've got karma jobs karma sorry jobs Jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs

1:25:31 You've got karma. It's a twofer! Two for karma! That kind of doubled up there. Yeah, it's operator error. Bruce in Doylestown, Pennsylvania $200 an NJNK loves what we do He puts him at 1800, which okay is almost close. He's already a sir so he's pushing to baronet Don Mills $200 shout out to the show's favorite flight attendant Todd Moss The drinks are on him No idea Ronald Beavis 200 bucks from California somewhere. Sir Robert Tennant in Nagatia, Waikato New Zealand I don't know how i'm pronouncing that...I'm pronouncing it wrong. It's okay

1:26:19 Well done guys a donation when double takes me to baronet which will make me match a mate from Cambodia who has a UK Baronette Baranet see he's got one from the UK courtesy of his great-grandfather all the best for this show sir Robert soon to be Sir Robert tenant BT I guess you put that at the end it's like a comma with a small up right capital P small T. Got it and We keep, okay. And that's a he gets credit for actually he's yeah, he's over the line for executive producer. These are all exec this by the way I'm gonna warn people here in this affiliates This is a long read we've got because everything is doubled up so we're going to read all the executive producers and associate executives when we get to the second half where there's not going to be very many left right? So it's gonna be a short read for that

CHAPTER 18 / 36 Discussion

Student Donors, Wesley Clark and the Seven Countries Memo

A college student donor's message prompts the playing of the famous General Wesley Clark clip regarding a 2001 Pentagon memo. The memo outlined a plan to "take out" seven countries in five years, including Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran. The hosts discuss the historical significance of this disclosure in the context of U.S. foreign policy.

wesley clark· pentagon· iraq· syria· libya· middle east policy

1:27:12 Colton Robinson, 159.76 He's been listening to the show since a freshman of high school around Show 300 and I've dreamed of the day I could become a knight Now being a senior in college this show can finally say that I am With this donation and your generous doubling...I will become a knight! The shows become a necessity as it kept me from becoming a noodle boy or an SJW millennial Right? With that said, keep up with the great work and here's to another 10 years of the best production. One of the best productions in the universe! For my jingles can I have a classic WTC7? And a long ant song at the end of this show. Ah yes perfect for today.

1:27:57 And he'll be credited with $318, 319 actually. Spencer Sumner in Calgary Alberta 15450 I couldn't resist the double contributions after offer advertised in the latest newsletter. I started listening to The Best Podcast In The Universe when I was in high school having heard another this is funny coincidence you know he's always in Calgary I started hearing it when he plugged it on Twitter. I started contributing weekly back then, and would have reached knighthood long ago. I have since completed a Bachelor of Arts in History and can truly say that no agenda changed my life for the better! Instead of being a typical hill-bot millennial, I was quoting the Wes Clark Seven on a political science exam.

1:28:52 Beautiful. The professor didn't like that very much. Really? Why not? Well, let's play it right now! Wesley Clark on the Seven Countries. This was three weeks after 9-11. So I came back to see him a few weeks later... And by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan. I said, are we still going to war with Iraq? He said oh it's worse than that! He reached over on his desk and picked up a piece of paper and he said... ...I just got this down from upstairs meeting the Secretary of Defense office today. This is a memo that describes how we're gonna take out seven countries in five years starting with Iraq then Syria Lebanon Libya Somalia Sudan and finishing off Iran

1:29:39 Yeah, don't be mentioning that. What was Wes Clark again? It was general correct? General? Yeah it was general he ran for president He had kind of-he looked to me I've always believed he's an alien you got these big giant eye black eyeballs But nobody else You know and he was I don't know why he never got further but maybe the alien thing got in the way Maybe the alien thing or this did this This commentary that should have been kept off the books. Yeah, that was probably a problem. Gordney Vandenberg... Wait wait wait no now we're into 150s? Yeah Oh geez oh okay I got it yes i understand He's just still all executive producer Crazy town love it You can have this page of the listing of credits has to be an addendum

1:30:25 Currently Vandenberg and but everybody gets credit a braum bachtel Deutschland thanks for all the value over the last 10 years. The work you guys do is more important every day I'm listening to the next ten years, too Hopefully and hopefully donating a lot more than I did in the first ten years which was absolutely nothing until this year all the best Thank You CJ he has an extra cent as an extra sense of each your voice. Got it Joseph Brent Stokes, 150. Now the 150s were specifically designed to get you an executive producer ship cheap. David Fugazotto, 150 I'm gonna name some of them just name one 50's David Chaney in Dallas Texas the show just keeps getting better he wants a some old put some jingles at the end with some karma Sir David Pugh in Massillon Ohio these are all executive producers John Aiken

1:31:20 Pew pew pew. He says my bad, he said I haven't donated in a while My bad! How about some pew pews for Sir David Pugh? Pew pew! Sir Josh Mandel 150 uh Stanley Jones Sykestown Maryland Did you get Akin? John Akin did you do him? John Akin 150 congratulations on the milestone Stanley Jones in Sykestown, Missouri is the last guy and then we go to Anonymous 150 who's gonna be the executive producers. And he says to all the boners and douchebags out there just put something in the pot it's good for your mind these guys need to eat also Adam I'm in Austin next week if you want a beer let me know about that! I may be traveling next week

CHAPTER 19 / 36 Discussion

Eagle Scout Knighthood, Peerage Upgrades and Sunday Show Preview

A donor gifts a knighthood to his son, Gage, in honor of him achieving the rank of Eagle Scout. The hosts discuss the dedication required for the achievement and play a "numbers medley" alarm tone requested for the new knight. The segment concludes with a reminder for listeners to subscribe to the newsletter for special promotion details and a preview of the upcoming Sunday broadcast.

eagle scout· knighthood· peerage· value for value· newsletter· sunday show

1:32:06 Bruce Schwalman, Harrisburg Pennsylvania. It's a hundred so he'll be an associate executive producer and we'll this is all the social executive producers are gonna name on one by one Dame Karen in Colorado Springs Colorado 101 that she says NJNK thank you for that Daniel Austerlund in White Bear Lake Minnesota nuts 101 oh one long time listener since 2008. He says, all these years is still the best podcast in the universe my wife and I are in desperate need of some house buying karma can you spare some? Yeah you can your associate executive will give me some right now yeah don't mind. You've got karma Oliver Yates uh in parts on no he's in Great Britain is he in Great Britain looks like it yes please what more can I say about value for value people

1:33:04 I request any Italian clips. It's been too long, and a goat. Okay... That was the Italian goat so it's a twofer. Perfect! K, oh, K-nonymous is in with $100. Willhelm Martins is a hundred dollars Gabe Shabazian and San Francisco California this puts me the knighthood under dollars Christopher O'Brien 100 James Callahan 100 Sir Brian Ferguson Baron of Costa Meka Meka Costa Mesa a hundred I from the baron of custom make it been a long time okay so that's our group of executives

1:33:46 Our executive and associate executive producers are showing 974. Our producerships are so insane we're practically giving it away! I'll do my crazy Eddie. Now I did skip one because it came in late and i'm going to push to the next show which is uh, but just want to make sure that he knows It got in which is sort of anonymous dog patch. Oh, okay All right, because you hit the note somewhere else I presume Uh, you've got the note? No, I have to know right in front of me Okay Well we'll push through the next show it's perfect this this is oh wait a minute You know what I was talking about that I did push that other note when I was talking about um

1:34:24 Yeah, yeah. I put the note exactly where it should have put it this is Patrick Mealy in Bountiful Utah who's who this is the note from earlier in the show. I'm going to read it now and then we're done He says a $33-a-month donor but my bank had cut off payments last September no reason given they just stopped sending you checks. This is a makeup donation this is the three hundred thirty three dollars and 39 cents I think for the last 12 months of missed payments coincidentally the bank cut off my donations right after it made enough layaway payments for my first knighthood well actually after that, it's automatically cut off after you get to a thousand dollars with the layaway

1:34:59 So it's part of the... if you click the right link, that's what happens. I would like to gift this knighthood to my son Gage in honor of him achieving he is on the list of achieving the rank of Eagle Scout! That is a big deal. That's not easy to do Yes, I was a scout and in our whole troop and the whole area we had one. Doesn't the Eagle Scout get like a letter from the president even? I have no idea what he gets but it's not easy to do. It also you have to be dedicated. You have to be talented there is a lot of talent involved in these things. When you go for your Eagle Scout do they have a talent portion and question portion or...

1:35:42 Generally, they have modern dances with the talent tends to be. It's also a late birthday present. He turned 18 in September and became a full-grown human. Gage hasn't been forced to listen to the podcast for a couple of years." Oh, he hasn't been? Okay! "...ever since he got his driver's license but when he was forced to listen he was taken by the idea of one day becoming a night!" He said wait is that real I said hell yeah he said we should get one of those. This is Gage. He collects honor badges. Also credit gauge with the producer credit so he can elicit on his college application for extracurricular activity. We can do that or gauge, please play the numbers medley nine nine nine which gauge used to use as an alarm clock ring tone for seeing it several months 6969 which is gauge gauge's favorite bowling score

1:36:34 So that's an insult. And 33 is the magic number, which is a score that Gage attained on his ACT college course. Okay wait a minute so we have 999 and what was the second one? It was 69! 69 dudes! Yeah do I still have... yes I do have that okay and then 33 and Akarma here we go! You've got karma

1:37:19 And for everybody out there, it's pronounced Mealy. Gage Mealy Patrick Mealy and they're in bountiful Utah. It means they go out to hunting and fishing. I want to thank them and everybody that contributed to this fantastic show of support. Yeah yeah this is our executive associate executive producers on the cheap yes It's a- everybody wins is the way I see it. Thank you! The win, win. Thank you very much and we'll be thanking more people in our second donation segment which i think will be a little bit shorter Yes! But its really appreciated And we will do another show for you on Sunday so you can remember us for the twofer special promotion ad to vorac dot org slash n a And it's good to see so many people hooking up their family brothers sisters sons propagating the formula Our formula is this We go out

CHAPTER 20 / 36 Discussion

Jesus Campos Interview, Ellen DeGeneres and MGM Relationship

Las Vegas security guard Jesus Campos gives his first and only interview to Ellen DeGeneres regarding the Mandalay Bay massacre. The hosts deconstruct the appearance, labeling it a highly scripted and orchestrated event managed by MGM Resorts International. They highlight DeGeneres's business ties to MGM, including her branded slot machines, as the reason she was granted the exclusive interview over traditional news outlets.

jesus campos· ellen degeneres· mgm· mandalay bay· las vegas shooting· scripted interview

1:38:10 We hit people in the mouth. Shut up, Sleigh! Hey citizen. I'm going crazy in the control room. Yeah yeah, I would say that. Alright let's do a little Vegas update Sounds good. You got one? Yeah, I see you've got a couple. I do in fact I have the update update the update update Yo that means is to update the latest from CBS More than two weeks after the Las Vegas massacre that left 58 dead 14 of the wounded remain in hospitals three and critical condition Jamie Ucas reports The first person shot that night a Mandalay Bay Hotel security guard has finally told his story to Ellen DeGeneres

1:39:02 Yeah, we don't but I have yes, okay Remarkable indeed. We'll talk about it. Yes as I was walking down I heard Rapid fire a routine door check turned to terror for Jesus Campos It happened moments after he arrived on the 32nd floor when he noticed something unusual about a stairwell door There was a metal bracket holding the door in place. When you saw that did you think? That's weird. Why would somebody put brackets on a door? Yeah, that was just out of the ordinary Campos took a different route back to the hallway and then radioed a maintenance engineer to check the bracketed door moments later Steven Paddock opened fire I felt the burning sensation I Went to go lift my pant leg up and I saw the blood That's when I called it in on my radio that shots have been fired

1:39:58 and I was gonna say that I was hit, but I got all over my cell phone just to clear that radio traffic for they can coordinate the rest of the call. Campos took cover and then saw maintenance worker Steven Shuck get off the elevator Take cover take cover yelled at me within milliseconds if he didn't say that i would have gotten it We also learned that a female guest came out a hotel room door and campos immediately told her to take cover Many believe Campos diverted the gunman's attention before panic killed 58 people. Campos believes a slamming door alerted the shooter to his whereabouts. He did not clarify any of the details of the changing timeline of the shooting, including whether Mandalay Bay did in fact call police that night. Anthony he says this is one and only interview. Still a lot of unanswered questions Jamie Ucas thanks when we Yeah there's a lot to talk about here and before we get into it I thought personally

1:41:01 that the context of the interview was extremely important. I watched it, I have the full interview and i think we should actually deconstructed because this was THE most scripted, THE most orchestrated, THE most bullcrap piece of television I have seen in lying history I mean, these guys... it's like the FBI even dressed them. Did you see what they were wearing? Yeah. It was like- They were wearing FBI costumes. FBI suits! Yeah. I mean there is no doubt about it. The guy on the left, I don't know who he is. Yeah, he's a mechanic This guy is Compos handler. Yeah No doubt about it Why did he do that at all Now why Ellen

1:41:42 Why does he keep tapping? He keeps touching the guy. Because he's his handler! Yes, so he touches him because it triggers... So why Ellen I know why oh well this is good before you say why Ellen and I thought it was peculiar too of course it's for you before you answer Why I'm gonna say this I don't whatever the reason I want to hire her booker Anyway, go on. Yeah see that is what Tina said she said holy crap What I get I'm like you hold her eyes She hadn't seen it yet said wait You got to see it and from the minute she saw these two jabronis Jamoaks she knew was awesome Jamoaks is a great name Jamoaks

1:42:29 Ellen has a business relationship with MGM who owns Mandalay Bay. She has her own slot machines in the hotels That's why she was chosen She was chosen you can't book that what 60 minutes wasn't competing ABC World News tonight, you're right You cannot book this she was not it was chosen But she wasn't just chosen because of our relationship with MGM. She was chosen because she could do the do this bit. Scripted bit and she wouldn't complain better than anybody else softer than anybody else they could trust her because she works for MGM so she's not going to go off script like that woman did on the view that got her fired remember we had a clip of this woman, she asked some questions it was not in the script yeah but she's just not gonna do any of that she's gonna and the thing that really got me is she pulls out a diagram and then she has a pointer let's run through it

1:43:24 With this premise in mind, I mean there's no way that...I don't see why people in the news media don't say wow this stinks to high heaven. Particularly the relationship between her and MGM is- This is a new story in itself! Yes! And I'm gonna stop you right there because I did the three by three None of the networks questioned the viability or the rationale, or anything about this. They just said he was on hell... In fact you know that last report which is from CBS said this will be his last first and last interview never questioning the venue Never questioning them now I know why they want to control it. I mean they're not in on killing people They don't want the liability. I completely understand that but you know even without that

CHAPTER 21 / 36 Discussion

Las Vegas Shooting Timeline, Jesus Campos and Stephen Shuck Accounts

Jesus Campos and maintenance worker Stephen Shuck describe the events on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay during the October 1 shooting. Campos explains finding a bracketed door and being shot through a doorway, while Shuck recounts being warned to take cover. The hosts express skepticism regarding Campos's explanation for using a cellphone instead of a radio to report being shot, suggesting the narrative remains inconsistent.

jesus campos· stephen shuck· mandalay bay· las vegas shooting· radio traffic· timeline

1:44:12 A guy like this would not appear anywhere without his lawyer. I mean, that's...I mean there is so much wrong Let's get into the interview We have to stop this along the way because it was just insane Thank you both for being here and first of all how are you both doing? I'm doing better each day Slowly but surely Just healing physically and mentally Yeah, I imagine that you relive that a lot These are all questions. These are all scripted questions, it's so clear. Yeah and how are you doing Steven? It's definitely hard as each day passes though we're working to get over this Okay now on the next question. So you're the security officer and you were called to check on a door that was I guess when a door is left open for certain amount of time your supposed go check on it right Yes we got notifications making sure that

1:45:12 to secure them or if they were already been secured just making that That check on the doors. Okay, so you were going up the fire escape? He's leading the witness do you think I mean he is not telling a story Ellen is telling the story and all he has to say is yes right? Almost most of the questions are leading the witness. Yeah right that's all that missing she says right So you were going up the fire escape to get there Via the stairwell from coming from 31st up to 32nd Right When I approached door it didn't open

1:45:48 Now wait a minute, he went up to check on the door that was open but then the door wasn't open. No no I know what he's saying. It is right it is correct. He went out of the stairwell and that's the door that was locked shut It was blocked off, so I had to reroute. Is that a normal thing? That the door at the stairwell would be blocked off? Hmm... is that a normal thing? No they're always supposed to remain open and after I dropped down and came back through the hallway And then I approached the room got into the door There was a metal bracket holding the door in place.

1:46:34 I couldn't tell if it was a 3D. It almost looked like it was 3-d. It was, well... It was an actual model with rays of... No no! It wasn't a model, it was a drawing Oh and she had this huge... You know what? It's done in 3D perspective Yeah and she had this telescopic pointer that she pulls out and she's pointing That's what got me Like the glove is here and this is where Nicole... oh wait a minute wrong script Okay so this is where the hotel room where it's, where the shooter was. This is the stairway and this door here was blocked and you did- What if she Nancy Drew all of a sudden? I mean this...this was really...this was insane! I've never seen this done this way

1:47:13 I mean it was like the hotel delivered a whole package. Here you go and here's your little 3D modeling and here's your pointer even. That's weird, why would somebody put brackets on a door? Yeah that was just out of the ordinary. Yeah that would be like red alert for me! It's like someone has barricaded themselves in or there are brackets on the door... I would be on the walkie-talkie right away. That was the beginning. Okay and then you walk out of this and it just slammed? Well when i was between that area I was calling security dispatch to get transferred to engineering

1:47:57 They didn't know anything about it, so they dispatched an engineer to go verify what that was. That's when you got called? Yes And at that time I heard what I assumed is drilling sounds And I believe that they were in the area working somehow. So you thought the drilling, there were gunshots but you thought it was just drilling sounds? At first uh...I think it was just drilling sounds Right so then at what point did you get shot what happens here As that door's closing and its so heavy It'll slam I'm walking down this way and I believe thats what caught the shooters attention as I was walking down

1:48:43 I heard rapid fire and at first, I took cover. I felt the burning sensation. I went to go lift my pant leg up and saw the blood that's when i called it in on my radio that shots have been fired and I was going to say that I was hit But I got all over my cell phone just to clear that radio traffic for... Okay, I don't believe this. I don't know why but there's- This is an important part of the narrative Is him giving an explanation why he didn't call on the radio that he was shot but he used his cellphone because he wanted to keep radio traffic clear? There's something about that That doesn't make sense and i'm not sure why it has to be said

1:49:34 Well, there's some reason it has to be said. Well the reason it has to be said is for the timeline No, it's because they don't have a recording cuz either this never happened or it happened and he maybe didn't have radio And they said well we have to make him look like at a radio There's a lot of reasons that it has to be said yeah But it is bullcrap. That's for sure yes Thank you all if he has a radio Maybe doesn't have a radio maybe they're cheap but if he has already You're right as the first thing he'd do and I would go on to the recording no He said shots fired and then But then he got hit and instead of saying I'm hit, He's like hold on let me get my cell phone. Okay? Let me see... Right you know oh hey i was hit now come on there's something amiss yeah On the radio that shots have been fired and I was gonna say that I was hit

1:50:19 But I got all over my cell phone just to clear that radio traffic for... Yeah, this is a really really really sketchy thing to say. I don't like it. Over my cell phone just to clear that radio traffic so they can coordinate the rest of the call So he shot You didn't even know he shot through this door, right? Yeah from behind the door. I don't know how he was shooting but he shot out Right so you didn't even know it was coming from here So Steven at this point...so your called up and you just think that your coming to look at a door thats been blocked in the firewall right? Yeah i didnt think anything out of the ordinary At the time i came from a higher floor and came down a different hallway service elevator

1:51:00 And I walked out and rounded the corner for the 100 hallway. That's when it was quiet at this time, the doors are set back as you can see in that about a foot and Jesus is towards the end of the hallway but I didn't know at that time. But I saw someone pop out of the cubby and I kept walking once I got more than halfway is when I saw Jesus and started to hear shooting And I thought at the time, I didn't know it was shooting. I thought it was a jackhammer and you know as an engineer I'm like we're not we're not working up here this late at night We wouldn't be doing that right? And it was but I believe outside It wasn't in the hallway yet

1:51:40 That's when Jesus he he leaned out and said take cover take cover and yelled at me And within milliseconds if you didn't say that I would have got hit because he was still shooting so So you would have been hit had. He not told you yeah It wasn't even fully in cover, and they're nice set up nice setup for Ellen This is exactly what was scripted? And there's a reason for her saying all this passing behind my head and I could feel the pain Pressure you can feel a pressure going past you just even being out of the way yes And we're like the pressure what the gun the rounds bullet and then bullets. I'm back. Yes, I Wonder I guess that's true. I don't know I've never been shot at Feel pressure you could feel a pressure going past you just even being out of the way Yes, and we're like were guests coming out of the doorway there was a female than

1:52:30 came out and I told her to go back inside it wasn't safe. Shortly after... Remember, Alan set the question up? That's when Steven was approaching and I told him to stay back and get cover And that's when more rounds were dispersed Right Wow! So really he saved your life and also the woman who came out of the door Oh yes I know that you, first of all you know thank you so much for being here and and i know that You've had So many people asking for you to tell the story And talk about this. And I understand your reluctance because you just want this To be over. So you're talking about it now and then you're not going to talk about It again? And I don't blame you

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Ellen Show Corporate Synergy, Shutterfly and NFL Giveaways

The conclusion of the Jesus Campos interview on the Ellen Show features corporate-sponsored giveaways, including NFL tickets and a $25,000 donation from Shutterfly to a GoFundMe page. The hosts criticize the mainstream media for failing to question the lack of access to Campos and the highly controlled nature of the segment. They suggest the arrangement serves as a form of "hush money" to protect corporate interests.

ellen degeneres· shutterfly· nfl· las vegas shooting· corporate sponsorship· hush money

1:53:20 Just so you know other bookers. You're talking about it, and you're never gonna talk about it again Right? I mean come on This is this is so insulting It's pretty insulting to the news community Yeah, especially the TV people they should be beside themselves. They should be calling this out for what it is But their policy that's exactly right They should be calling up but there's because of the sensitivity and all the rest of it because you know harping on Trump yeah, but it so it's okay to talk about you know some context of what the president did or did not say to a woman whose son was blown up an

1:54:00 It's okay to rehash that and put on gold star parents everywhere. I'm disgusted by it, i'm so disgusted. Yeah that's okay but you can't call out this... And not only that but if i'm not mistaken Ellen is a syndicated show syndicated by the networks I could be wrong it could be like CBS. I'll look at that thing isn't ABC as far as i know, its not network associated. I could be wrong. It's to be over so you're talking about it now and then you're not going to talk about it again and I don't blame you because why relive this over and over again but it's helpful for people to understand what a hero you are

1:54:36 Because you we have to bring in the hero mean we have to bring it back. You see now We're back to square one He's a hero shot in the leg Saved so many people's lives and instead of you just getting out of there, you saved Stephen's life you save that woman's life and who knows how many other people and So we just wanted to celebrate you that's why you're here today because we want to thank you for what you've done even after this happened Instead of going to the hospital you stayed to help the police and give them all the information they needed together Also, what else did you want to mention? I just want to mention all the people that assisted that night Whether it was Metro FBI The community especially coming out together to help everyone in need the first responders even the people that got called into assist in the hospitals and Just everything is put

1:55:30 puts pieces together on how everyone came together to help that night even in the darkest hour. Yes, there were a lot of people that showed up to help. Alright and Stephen? Definitely I want to thank the first responders and people on the ground at the show helping each other out. I mean I think the acts of humanity were major that night and I want to thank Jesus again from my family and all my friends, everybody for saving my life. Yep! That's great! And now they take it to a whole other level

1:56:10 which, you know... I don't know if you're taking all that in. And I know like you said it's hard to think about that a lot and you did save people lives. We of course wanted to give you money we wanted to and you both were... I was thinking car! Give him a car! Give him a car! Car! A new Chevrolet! Very very specific. You said you don't want money at all so your not getting any money alright? That's, we're not gonna give you money. But Stephen your favorite team is the Colts and you've never been to a game so the NFL is flying you to meet the team and get VIP tickets. Nice little NFL tie-in nice always opportunity

1:56:55 And then also, it's over here. OK, also, as soon you're a fan of the Oakland Raiders and Shutterfly is going to give you season tickets when the team goes to Las Vegas, you're going be able to see- Shutterfly? It's another different advertiser! So first it's NFL and then it's Shutterfly What does Shutterfly do? Don't they make cups with your pictures on it or something like that? Also, we know it's really important for you to...that everyone is recognized. So Shutterfly cares about supporting communities so its going to make a donation of $25,000 in your name to the GoFundMe page thats dedicated to helping victims of the shooting. For more information, victims of Las Vegas shooting go to our website

1:57:48 And so the guy's looking at that, you know they bring out the big ass check. The giant check. Oh yeah right and it's going right in front of his nose he like there was no response No reaction! No nothing all I could think was either He got a lot more than that check or he's like I'm an idiot. I'm a dumbo. You're gonna go to jail if you don't do this I mean, there's always that. Now Ellen Show is syndicated by very good production, Tele Pictures and Scripps and WAD. There's no network affiliation whatsoever with this show although distribution is done by Warner Brothers

1:58:28 Yeah, but so there's no...so the connection here is very strange. I think you've nailed it as an MGM connection and the networks are completely shut out of this. And they should be yelling for access to this guy! Are you kidding me? He was just going tell a story once and that's it. Whoa! Just we are being gypped. There has to be a huge amount of money, hush money paid to this guy to keep him from doing any other interviews because you don't and Ellen should be ashamed of herself for making that comment that he's not going talk to anybody else. She is just part of the hush money deal. Yeah, I'm sure she got paid too one way or the other Oh yeah well This is really disgusting And no so much that Ellen did that I get it I get the corporate interest I understand that I see right through what a lot people saw right through it but that the journos

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Mandalay Bay Fire Exit Security, Sheriff Lombardo Press Conference

The hosts discuss the technical security of hotel fire exits, questioning how Jesus Campos could have accessed the stairwell if the doors were locked from the inside. They also play a clip from a Clark County Sheriff's press conference where an off-mic voice, presumably an FBI agent, appears to tell the Sheriff "don't go there" when asked about explosives found in the shooter's car.

mandalay bay· sheriff joe lombardo· fbi· las vegas shooting· fire exits· explosives

1:59:23 are avoiding this is, I mean they jump into anything they can but not this one. And what a story! What a story! It's baffling it's just baffling now there's one other clip i have it may be a little hard to hear on the uh... I want to mention with one of the things since we're still analyzing that last clip okay generally speaking from my experience and could be wrong about the MGM. But from my experience, once you get into that fire exit well... He's coming up from the bottom floor to go into the next floor taking a shortcut My experience in those fire exit wells is that they're locked and if you get into one and the door closes behind you You literally have to walk all the way down Yeah but you'd think he would have the key But there are no keys I've never seen a key It's not a keyed lock

2:00:27 It's just the door that is closed. and with no handle or any way of getting it open. So I don't know what that's all about, maybe they have a different system, maybe somebody who is staying there in the next few days could go into the well and check it out because otherwise people would be sneaking around in the well cause not a lot of cameras are there. Whenever someone brings out the 3D model and telling me what happened, I'm skeptical so we have no evidence, we got no proof, we've got no tapes, nothing...we've got no nothing Yeah. So, you know there's nothing left to do other than deconstruct media which is what this is and they're doing it all we get to deconstruct as the Ellen show are you kidding me that's where we're stuck with because these guys can't do or won't do or have been prevented from doing their job? Won't do. Won't do is what its about I think prevent it From one of the most recent press conferences given by the elected sheriff of Clark County

2:01:29 who we're still reading from the narrative. He was asked a question, and I've boosted the audio you may not be able to hear it there is of course the video version in the show notes There's a reporter that asks about his car and i believe if it was wired to blow up What I want you to do is give Aaron Rouse the opportunity to talk about Mary Lou. He may not have anything for you, okay? But yeah, I think it's fair for you to ask him and then i would like to get to Senator Heller and Commissioner Sisolak. You probably can't hear it...you really have to strain. I hear the guy yelling car right And then off mic someone says to the sheriff

2:02:22 I'll see if you really yeah listen again. It's very oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it was right there at the end. Yeah here is again Now the vid the shot of the video It's half, like only the right hand corner of the FBI agents mouth is in there and he's blocking the guy behind him. I don't know if it came from the right of him or left of him but some-and sounds like a male voice. Don't go there! Yeah definitely a male voice. Yes, don't go there So... you know Why not? And this is evident This is obviously on tape This is something that said we need to talk I mean where Anyway

2:03:07 So maybe, uh...maybe you're one thinks it's just normal. I don't. Don't go there! Go there! Yeah this is very bothersome The whole thing is bothersome Yeah I can see why you'd think that and that bothers me too I dunno why Why? Why can't he talk about the car What- what's changed We already talked about the car once It was loaded with explosives and they had 1,000 rounds That's what I remember Mmhmm What else is there going on? Don't go there! I'm just gonna keep saying that All the time yeah, yeah like Peter Griffin Yeah Okay Anything else on Vegas let me see if I had something in the notes Let's see well of course we have the Vegas shooting survivor who was a see she ran a charity and she died That sucks when people were we added extra died death. I didn't know that yeah But you didn't die from wounds

CHAPTER 24 / 36 Discussion

Healthcare Subsidies, Trump Policy Shifts and Deficit Projections

President Trump's decision to cut $7 billion in Obamacare subsidies is analyzed alongside conflicting reports of his support for a bipartisan fix. Media reports claim that cutting these subsidies could actually increase the federal deficit by $200 billion, a logic the hosts find questionable. Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin also appears in interviews to discuss the administration's broader tax reform goals.

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2:04:11 Oh, she just that's right. She just died yeah in her sleep I think so always horrible when that happens oh well all right well We can move on to a couple of things I get I do have a Health can other one of these this is an ABC presentation on the health care Apparently, this isn't kind of an ironic clip because they're talking about Trump whipsawing But we have our own The term whipsaw means something and it's within this clip. There's a whipsaw explain the whipsaw

2:04:51 The whipsaw is where you say and the worst thing that happened is that they all agreed that the Messerschmitt should have been shot down. And then they come up with a good, A clip that is supposed to confirm what you just said as evidence and the clip doesn't confirm anything. We turned a random clip, I'm sorry to make you think that you've got the clip but you got nothing! And this is about... This is the worst case scenario for this and I actually ended after the Whipsaw Clip This is part one, the part two we can play later. I mean right afterwards but this is healthcare update with a whipsaw with a whipsaw one. We turn next here tonight to the health care whiplash. The president says whiplash sorry whiplash. Oh yeah we turned next year what do you want advertising?

2:05:40 We turn next year tonight to the health care whiplash. The president slashing $7 billion in subsidies meant to help working class families afford their insurance, then last night supporting a bipartisan plan to save those subsidies for now but tonight it turns out he's now against it So what's going on here? Here is ABC's Mary Bruce. It was just a week ago when the president launched a crusade to dismantle Obamacare piece by piece, then that late night bombshell. The President cutting off $7 billion in subsidies that help lower income Americans people who make too much to qualify for Medicaid but still need help affording coverage But the president argued they were a bailout for insurers People will have great great health care

2:06:27 Great whipsaw clip. Just throw something in there It was a bailout for insurers and then they play that? Just a random Trump clip Yeah, just throw anything in there They should just throw in the Prime Minister question time OOOH NAAA! Just for no reason Why don't you have some guy singing a song using his armpit to make up someone I mean it's same thing Alright what's in two Okay, then they kind of just wrap up the story. This morning, the senator behind the deal praised the president for getting the ball rolling. I give him full credit for engineering this bipartisan agreement But just minutes later, the president tweeting...

2:07:33 Mary's live on the Hill tonight and the president this evening saying he still hoping for a bigger fix to overhaul Obamacare but Mary some studies actually show that cutting billions in subsidies could actually add to the deficit. Yeah David while the president and lawmakers continue to debate without these subsidies, the federal deficit is projected to increase by nearly 200 billion dollars and premiums for millions could rise. David? Mary Bruce with us again tonight Now this little ending here, apparently if you don't spend this $7 billion for these subsidies the deficit is going to go up by 200 billion. Amazing! How does that even work?

2:08:17 There's no rationale for it. It makes zero sense. And these things are rarely ever right if you go back and look at all of the OMB reports and all that can be... Yeah, the British economy is going to collapse after Brexit. The stock market is going to collapse after Trump gets elected. We hear these things all the time but this logic of this little thing at the end is ditty and every network is saying it without explanation they're not explaining it. And where did- and the data comes from who? I don't know, maybe. It's hard to tell because i think they're just taking whatever they can and they're finagling it and stuffing it into a phony box and presenting it as fact if you don't spend seven billion you're gonna cause going to cost you 200 study adding make here any this is from the hill A new study says adding two hundred billion dollars to the senate obamacare replacement bill would not be enough to fund

2:09:14 Private coverage. Oh, I see what they're saying so you take the seven how much was it? Seven billion away and that is then being replaced by 200 billion Maybe it's coming from our new tax plan which Steve Mnuchin was on with the money honey I like her interviews, Maria Bartiromo. She's a good interviewer. Yeah and Mnuchin is completely tick free! I watched quite intently...I don't know how he did it man he was he was just take heaven he was a Tourette's hero Drugs? yeah but what drugs?! I wouldn't mind having them when i need to do an appearance somewhere you know twitching and then we take my drugs and they'll be over uh and there was a little interesting ditty in here about which i did not realize

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Melania Trump Body Double Theory, Genotypes and Public Appearances

A discussion of the "Melania Trump body double" theory explores visual discrepancies in the First Lady's recent public appearances, specifically focusing on her facial features and the use of large sunglasses. The hosts compare this to a recent incident involving a "dead ringer" lookalike for NBA player Klay Thompson. They speculate on the logistical reasons a high-profile figure might use a double for travel or meetings.

melania trump· body double· clay thompson· genotypes· conspiracy theory

2:10:07 Is a part of the plan. He's been replaced with a clone dude have you had dude? Have you seen dude, dude? Dude have you seen the Melania double this is crazy now we've always suggested, and I think believed that there are body doubles for the president. Obama totally- We know there's one for Hillary. We know this one for Hillary we think is one for Trump but... And Obama certainly had one but maybe not Donald Trump Melania Trump There are pictures and it's a different woman

2:10:47 who was with her. And this, whenever you see the big glasses and the hair kind of a little bit... The bangs hanging down and obfuscating her face a little bit it's not Melania! It is a different woman hands down I show these pictures to different women all like oh you gotta send me some links i want to check this out and people think that's kinda nutty but I wanna point people to a incident that happened in the opening NBA game with the Warriors where they had one of the players, a very distinctive looking guy named Clay Thompson famous three point shooter. There was a Clay Thompson look alike in the audience wearing his jersey same haircut same goatee same everything and you have to look this up on the net just to see it this guy especially when he's in motion

2:11:36 They could have killed Clay Thompson and put him in, and no one would know the difference. The guy was an unbelievable dead ringer. There are people that are genotypes that you can make copies of or find somebody who looks exactly like them because they look exactly like them so none of this ever surprises me." You can just do a Bing search right now. You can Bing it and do Melania double, and you'll see the pictures immediately." It's not... I don't use Bing! Okay! DuckDuckGo. It really is very clear. Yeah, do that right now. What was the search term he used? Melania Double. How about that?! Just going off-the-cuff here

2:12:30 You're really putting it out there. I know how about are you at startpage.com yet? Do you have your own Yahoo portal with links to like squirrel mail and uh, real male would have a search engine Oh this doesn't even look like her yeah but that's what a big nose whole different mouth the mouth is totally just downturns not the same mouth eyebrows are the same Yeah The general features but you know that's why the big glasses Yeah, her eyes must be way off. Here she is with Trump the phony one. I mean come on! She's probably said hey... I'm sick and tired of you traveling to all these people. I'm sick and tired of standing around in these stupid meetings that don't like it It's not fun for me can we put somebody in my place? And they got a double and that's what they did. How much do you think that gig pays

2:13:29 Oh, it's got to pay about a quarter of a million. Nah, it's gotta be more than that! I don't think...I think you can get it for a quarter- No the reason I say a quarter of a million is because I think you can get someone for a quarter of a million Yeah well you could kill someone for 50 bucks or something Probably yeah We're in strange times Mr. Dvorak All right, here's Steve Mnuchin with a little bit of... And by the way when she is there with him and like in one shot of her with the fake by the helicopter. No one ever says that it was Melania Trump it just could be you know, an intern secretary. It's an intern. Intern! So that allows you to take the tax reform bill through the reconciliation process let's talk about that for moment because recently this deduction elimination of state and local taxes has been

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State and Local Tax Deductions, Double Taxation Debate

Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin discusses the potential elimination of state and local tax (SALT) deductions as part of the federal tax reform bill. The debate centers on whether these deductions constitute a federal subsidy for high-tax states like New York and California. Critics argue that removing the deduction leads to double taxation for residents in those jurisdictions.

salt deductions· tax reform· steve mnuchin· maria bartiromo· new york· california

2:14:20 debate where are you on that is that going to hold up this bill? This was very interesting I didn't know this was a part of the bill so the idea is you deduct the amount you've paid in state taxes from your federal tax bill generally you do They make it sound like something is different. Otherwise, it's double taxation. You're supposed to be able to take off all your taxes from your income before you pay your federal taxes

2:14:57 Well then why otherwise you could be taking you to be taxed so much that You get no nothing on the feds want all this money. Well, let's see what they're saying here cuz I maybe I don't understand it properly Where are you on that? Is that going to hold up this bill Marie? I don't think it's gonna hold up the bill And as you know, I've had the opportunity to work with the president for over the last year and a half during the campaign on tax reform. It's been his top priority. I've been working on this since January and we understand that the issue on state local deductions is I said, You know, I've lived in California New York and I knew the impact on both those economies were trying to balance On one hand We firmly believe that the federal government should get out of the business

2:15:41 supporting and subsidizing the state and local deductions. On the other hand, we are sensitive to those economies and we're working with the House and Senate on this issue." Okay so I guess what they're saying is... We're gonna leave it in? We're going allow that? We're not going to take that away? Is that your understanding?" Well, I understand it's up for debate. That's what the problem is. People are actually discussing it. But here's the thing that I didn't realize that Maria brings up... It sort of gives the governor of that state or the mayors in that city free-wheeling to just raise taxes, or leave taxes wherever they want. That's true Maria and I know people in New York and California will say they send more money to the federal government than they get back but thats because more rich people live in both those states And the way tax system works you know The top 10% pay 80% of the taxes in this country

2:16:44 Okay, so well. They're just throwing out a bunch of random yeah, this is terrible stuff okay? Well good then you've cleared that up for me because no one else is making it clear What's going on I read the proposal and seen any document But they're not gonna get away with this With what they think they're gonna did not let people deduct their taxes on their federal income tax Yeah You think there true pushing for that It's one of the elements in play because there is a number of, and I can see where you would maybe put that in play if you were in a state like Florida. Right. Nevada Texas. Yeah yeah yeah.

2:17:28 But nobody that's in New York, where you've been. New York is worse than... I mean California state tax is horrible but New York has got not only state tax but if you live in the city of New York you have to pay New York City Tax just to live there so when you go even if you're traveling through your supposedly If you go to New York and you're a writer and you write a book there You have to pay taxes in New York? You have to pay taxes In the cities, city of New York now and the State Ah, fantastic. Hey John? We're running a little bit behind I think we should alert the affiliates that... We do have a few people to thank

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Final Donation Segment, Value for Value Model

The hosts conclude the donation reads for the episode, acknowledging supporters who contributed under $50 and those who utilized the anniversary "Double Tap" promotion. They emphasize the "Value for Value" model as the lifeblood of the show and encourage listeners to subscribe to the newsletter to stay informed about future promotions and structured show notes.

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2:18:26 after a huge number of associate executive and executive producers, we now start with the normal donations which are all still doubled up. But we're gonna name the folks and tell you where they're from. Gerald Preston being the first. And he starts off with a boob donation at 8008. John Knowles N-O-L-E-S in Murfreesboro another boob donation Boob. Sir Chris Gray of the Isle of Wight, which is owned by the Queen in Covington, Louisiana... It's not even a British state or anything it was owned by The Queen I've been there many times it was great place to fly too. Sounds like a great place to visit and as a seafood restaurant that about 15 minute walk from the airfield and its just phenomenal Sir Chris Gray, Isle of Wight, Covington, Louisiana

2:19:27 So he lives in Louisiana, I guess. Last few shows have been great he says. He donated $80. John DiGaudio in Long Island New York 73 83. Uh, I think he's going to get upgraded or something 10 year milestone. Yeah well no he's uh his knighthood oh is it now okay he's got very happy right Yeah, you need 150 bucks to get any so I put in 73 83. Okay finally legit nice Sir Rick and Arlington Washington 69 96 Corey Bennett 66 96 Stephen Wolfe and Kirkland Washington 66 66 Richards pasto 64 20 mark that call strum in Portland Oregon 60 Dana Mitchell

2:20:16 Baron Mark Tanner in Whittier, California 5678. He's got a birthday coming up looks like Colin Cunningham and Redmond Oregon 5665 Kevin wood in Manchester New Hampshire 5555 he's got some light up here Oh, he's well but let me go back to Dana Mitchell 60 bucks. He has a douchebag call out for Jay who hit me in the mouth over dinner and Phoenix. Douche bag! Okay, Jay you've been fully warned okay Dean Rocker Tyler Stafford 5252 Misty in Pensacola Florida 5032 Simon Palo Woda in West Hartford Connecticut 5033. It's got a birthday thanks uh the big 30 on Friday

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Peerage Upgrades, Knighting Ceremony and Table Menu

A final knighting ceremony is held for the episode, elevating several producers to the rank of Knight or Dame. The hosts read the traditional "Table Menu" of extravagant items available to the new peers, ranging from "Hookers and Blow" to "Nicaraguan Cigars." Information is provided on how listeners can view the full peerage list and order No Agenda rings.

peerage· knighthood· no agenda roundtable· hookers and blow· rings

2:23:44 It's your birthday, birthday. I'm so glad you're here. Here is your list for today. Natasja Hallars says happy birthday to her brother Nick. Survive with the virtual reality. Misty, happy birthday to our soon-to-be hubby Dodge Gaskill celebrating 42 years today. Simon Palu Palwoda Happy birthday to Sir Brian Massey, turns 30 tomorrow. And happy birthday to John Hogarty! We will be talking to him in a moment up on the podium for our nighting. Happy birthday from everybody here at The Best Podcast In The Universe! Oh let's do titles. With our fantastic promotion we have a number of title changes today

2:24:29 Dame Karen becomes baronet of Baroness I should say Simran Hills sir gadget virtuoso baronet of mobile devices and FEMA region 9 in absentia, so Robert Tennant acquires his baronet today as does sure Josh Mandel. Thank you very much and congratulations on your Upgraded or brand new peerage you can find that at itm.im slash peerage or Dvorak org slash Peerage dot html uppercase Are you accompanying us today John? Yes, I'm your flute all right well put the flute down for a second stop playing with your flute Get your blade because we've got a long list today Okay here We go okay start the music

2:25:20 Ladies and gentlemen, very happy to pronounce the following. Producers as Knights and Dames of the No Agenda Roundtable, Ernest Benoit of Rutland Massachusetts becomes Sir Ernesto Grande Knight of the Heavy-Handed Riffin' and Basher of Strings. Matt in South Bay becomes Sir Matt Baronet of the Principality of Saratoga David Cox, Sir Zojo of Derbyshire T Humphreys, Sir Knight of the Living Dead Gage Mele, Sir Gage of The Eagle's Nest Care of his Dad Patrick Mele We have Jacobus Boersma, Sir Jacobus Boersma. Colton Robinson becomes Sir Colton. Shabazian becomes Sir Shabazian- we need to keep the music going I need more music John D'Gaudio become Sir John Legend of the Hollywood Gardens Kevin Wood, Sir Kevin of The Black Knight Sir Joshua Landon, Sir Chirag Patel Sir David Rosa and finally Sir John Hogarty become Sir Hoji Hung

2:26:23 For you, we've got Hookers and Blow! Rent Boys and Chardonnay. We've got McAllen Dim Sum. We've got Ketamine & Kombucha Tofu & Tumeric Pipelines & Poppies Drawny Eggs & Grapefruit Juice WWE & Dabs Aero Gay & Ambien Lead Slinger's Whiskey & Gunpowder Brisket & Brown Ale Malt Vinegar & Manual Transmissions Nicaraguan Cigars Rolled in Panama Papers Strong Black Coffee & Chocolate Chip Cookies We've got Cuban Cigars & Single Malts Scotch Mutton & Mead Ginger ale and gerbils, and all that other good stuff here at the table. Go to noagenthenation.com slash rings and I guess we have to order some more rings. Yeah yeah geez seems so too so uh and we will make a good on some of the notes that didn't get mentioned because they were in the email or they got lost in the shuffle but you got your knighthoods and yes figure it out thank you thank you thank you thank you all so much Thank You for making up good

CHAPTER 29 / 36 Discussion

Project Veritas, New York Times Editor Bias

A new undercover video from Project Veritas features Desiree Hsu, a senior staff editor at NewYorkTimes.com, discussing internal bias against President Trump and Vice President Pence. In the recording, Hsu describes the president as an "oblivious idiot" and suggests that journalists write about the administration's "insanity" to influence public opinion. The hosts debate the ethics of "off-the-record" conversations in undercover reporting.

project veritas· james o'keefe· new york times· desiree hsu· media bias

2:27:19 Eww, let's see. What do you have? I have just a few more things... The new Project Veritas video is out. Oh, what's the topic? You know what I...the thing that so bothersome about Project Veritas you know they unmask shenanigans at Planned Parenthood and there's a lot of things that they cover but it really just you know unless you're looking at the video and reading along with the subtitles is very hard the audio is very difficult This one is audible enough. It is, let me get this right... This is Desiree Hsu? She's the senior staff editor for NewYorkTimes.com. Oh yeah

2:28:05 And she's talking about President Trump and Vice President Pence, and the bias that is just impossible to keep away. I'm speaking all for our president. It's hard to portray... For instance the president in a unbiased light with words coming out of his mouth apologetic toward whites overseas. I feel like Trump is a It's just sort of an idiot in a lot of ways. Like, just an oblivious idiot...

2:28:44 I think maybe one of the things that journalists are thinking about is if we write about him, how insane and crazy he is and how ludicrous his policies are then people will read it and be like oh wow. We should work on this. So I think the last part is particularly damning if you could understand it. She says, we're really hopeful that people read about... You know we just write about how crazy and effing stupid they are in the hopes that people will then understand so they're not reporting their trying to convince. She used a word oh wow now at the beginning didn't she say this was off-the-record? Yeah! I don't think..I don't know if I have that on here yes she said yeah it was on there I heard it Oh okay yeah so that would be a bad thing

2:29:34 Well, it's not journalism. It's bad form. No it's not journalism. It's bad form when somebody says off the record you... Yeah, it's off the record You let them talk about stuff because there is a background and background is useful but you don't blow it But these guys that what they do so I mean its not like against the law They come in with a phony premise and then they bust you for being a jerk. Yeah, that's how it works. All right yeah but we knew this was going on. Just before you get into because we want to get into some last clips here

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Microsoft Surface Studio Pro, Surface Phone Speculation

A host recounts a positive experience at a Microsoft Store, praising the Surface Studio Pro's touch interface for creative work. The discussion touches on rumors of an upcoming "Surface Phone" that could function as a full computer when connected to a monitor. The hosts compare the "high-energy" environment of Microsoft retail locations to the perceived "arrogance" of Apple Stores.

microsoft· surface studio pro· surface phone· apple store· tech hardware

2:30:24 I have to compliment you again. You know, i've been working on Windows for a while not during the show that's still all the Mac and I don't think well Here's here's the thing you wrote about something that I heard in the windows store? I went to the window store few weeks ago It's in the same Microsoft Store. I call it the window store Okay, the Microsoft Store Which there's one around yeah, it's in the domain 79 of them. I think or something like yeah Well this we have one Apple store here and they're low energy No, no they're not good No They were high-energy very enthusiastic very helpful Not arrogant that they don't have that sheen that apple sheen over them you know like which is good I'm an apple. I got to Sheen

2:31:09 And I was very, very impressed with the Surface Studio Pro. In fact that I've been looking at this you know Windows there's a lot of interesting stuff happening with Microsoft and never thought I would say it again but You know things go in cycles and maybe they're coming around and it's fast and zippy and now they've got touch interfaces for studio work For radio stuff as well. It's like...and I can really...I don't know I'm really jacked about it And then you mentioned the phone, and I heard this in the store. The guy said yeah, I think they're coming with a Surface Phone and this is weeks ago before he wrote this article. Are you sure? Yes! Yeah...I have written two articles on this. It was before the first one too. I read that as well Okay So no, I hate to say it but I don't think he got the info He works at Microsoft so um and that looks like a really good deal man That looks like a cool thing You have the whole computer in your phone

2:32:07 And you just hook it up to a monitor. I mean, and you blow away the whole app ecosystem. You know? It makes so much sense! Anyway...You know guys over there right in Microsoft don't you have contact? I do but no i have not gotten any of this information from Microsoft. Its all based on observational analysis period Well..I love the idea of the phone but really can you give me like a demo unit of the Studio Pro No. Oh, okay. Damn the whole story for nothing I thought you would go yeah call somebody! I can't get one for myself. Oh...I mean- I'm the poster child for this You'd be ideal Perfect! Yeah Alright Onward a Dutch story

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Dutch Asylum Seekers, LGBTQ Claims and Proof of Sexuality

Reports from the Netherlands suggest that an increasing number of migrants from countries like Iraq and Turkey are claiming LGBTQ status to avoid deportation. Because the Dutch government views being gay as a valid reason for political asylum, officials are reportedly seeking ways to verify these claims. The hosts discuss the irony of the Netherlands becoming a destination for these claims while facing rising street violence against the gay community.

netherlands· asylum seekers· lgbtq· immigration policy· turkey· iraq

2:32:57 on KFI in California, the big KFI. Can you receive that where you are? The big KFI or is that only Los Angeles? After about seven o'clock at night yeah. Yeah well this was a story that ran on some show that one of our producers picked up about migrants in The Netherlands. The ever tolerant Dutch by the way, the Dutch who will take absolutely anybody of course and the evil Americans are closing down their borders and the whole thing... Well a lot of refugees from wherever have discovered that the magic phrase it pays in Holland If you don't want to be deported back to Iraq, back to Turkey, back to whatever. All you have to do is say, but I'm gay! I am LGBTQ etc. That's R-O-F-L L-O-L L-M-A-O It's all you have to do is say oh alright maybe not a political refugee but I'm gay. I like the penis

2:33:45 And the Dutch immediately put you into a three-year holding pattern and they just assume, you know, that you're telling the truth. They agree, yep, you're going to be killed if sent back to Turkey or whatever. Well so many refugees have discovered this magic phrase that pays that they are all using it now! So now the Dutch... are having to invent clever ways to have people prove they're gay. And they are, for instance saying well bring your boyfriend next time! If you have a boyfriend bring him if you don't have a boyfriend go get a boyfriend and we want you guys to make out in front of us but it just shows that yes there are limits to everyone's tolerance

2:34:22 I'm waiting for confirmation on you got to make out in front of us that part. I'm not sure is true, but yeah Yeah, this is great Holland will end up being the most gay of all the EU countries well we used to be that We used to be there's a gayst of all gay and open and free society And any Dutchman will tell you or dutch woman will say it's now dangerous To be on the street and gay in Holland because you get beat up That's the irony of this whole situation. I know, it's crazy! Well since you're playing Dutch... But America we're the bad guys We are the horrible people for gays sure Why don't you play this little clip? Uh..I think i cut it down enough It's from the last show You have to look at- I think it says DUTCH And that is from the last show uh I dont have on today's Turkey beating up the dutch No thats an old one Its a pretty new clip You sure its says dutch

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Groningen Gas Field Earthquakes, Fracking and Infrastructure Damage

Residents in the Groningen region of the Netherlands report widespread property damage caused by earthquakes linked to natural gas extraction. While gas has been produced in the area since 1967, recent fracking and storage activities are blamed for the increased seismic activity. The hosts discuss the inadequate compensation offered to homeowners and the technological infrastructure developed by the No Agenda community to track such global news items.

groningen· netherlands· natural gas· earthquakes· fracking· shell

2:35:28 I'm pretty sure it's either Dutch or maybe Holland. Holland, we can try that... Yes earthquakes in Holland yes! That's it! Home to one of Europe's richest natural gas fields the gas from the region brings in billions for the country but not without a cost thousands of residents say their homes have been damaged by earthquakes brought on by the extraction of natural gas from shell rocks deep below the surface They wonder, how could such a beautiful area in such a wealthy country be allowed to fall into ruin?

2:36:20 It's a very slow, it's a features-oriented news magazine that Deutsche Welle does. So they produce everything with all the packages of music and they're pretty well thought out sometimes it's interesting. Groningen close to the German border setting off on a boat What is he saying? Groningen...well technically close to the German border but it would make more sense to say bordering on the North Sea at the very north of the country Setting off on a boat and enjoying nature from the water is something he never tires of. This is my life, we were all born on the water and loved boats! My father was a fisherman – it's like heaven on earth! But the area is no longer as idyllic as once it was

2:37:10 Once a dream, it's becoming a nightmare. Since 2012, Swaberg explains there have been regular earthquakes They're brought on by natural gas production in the region That house is damaged that one is damaged all the houses here Hilty has been living in an apartment for two years now his own house is surrounded by offense these days You can't really see the problem from the outside, but let's go in. Then you'll see what has happened." The problems are on this side and it is really bad over here. This used to be my bedroom. This wall is already separated from the outside wall and

2:38:03 The wall has come away from this one. So the next time there's a quake, the entire ceiling will probably come down and then this wall could fall inward." The natural gas company offered him just 8000 euros compensation. The costs for repairing the damage would probably be closer to a quarter million. That is what it would take for Hiltje Svaberg's house to be safe enough to live in. Yeah, this is... This is a story and I did a quick little look up that I can find the show notes, the show notes search only goes back to episode 490 because that's when we started doing structured data XML and Search.nashownotes.com has episode 514 from 18th May 2013 when we first started talking about this And it is a huge problem Void0 lives up there

2:39:01 And it's not just the fracking. I think they also are using some of those, some of the dead wells that have been used... They've gotten everything out. They're using that to jam more Russian natural gas into save it? To store it? And yeah, there's earthquakes every day. Like waves just you know and they're all like two on the scale two three on whatever scale who knows what they using these days but it's cracking all the houses and already there is a lot of animosity between basically Amsterdam and then let's just throw The Hague in there and the rest to the country They feel like their excluded and you know these homes are cracking

2:39:45 Yeah, he's a couple grand. Shut up! Well that's the joke of their offering almost nothing and they had... these are features that go on forever so they had this spokesman from the oil company come on and say you know we've been taking natural gas out of this area since 1967 yeah and so we've been here a long time but they did take Natural gas out of a natural gas well is one thing, but fracking is another thing altogether. And it's known fact everywhere there's a lot of fracking—Oklahoma being a perfect prime example—there are all these earthquakes which are very damaging to anyone living in the area or even nearby and they're always in denial about this. Yeah. And Void Zero saying that not daily, he says not all that bad but...

2:40:37 Oh, he says you can feel the real bad ones. Alright yeah well it's cracking- it's cracking stuff! Yeah well all these houses are old they tend to be brick or mortar and something. So they're not built for earthquake area in the first place, although you can retrofit steel beams and stuff into brick house and make it so it still stand up but nobody does that any debt's a specialty we have it in California all the old buildings that had a problem in 1989 they've all been read there still there is your wife's old brick building here and go inside you can see how how, how it's why it's there is because he's got all these this interior kind of structure which holds the bricks not carrying a load anymore. That's reasons standing up well as two things and a continuation of the Dutch I really want to compliment our producers when I see how you know episode 490 we started to make our show notes which you can find at no agenda notes calm archive dot no agenda notes calm

2:41:38 Made it available in OPML, it's an XML derivative. And since then we have the NoAgenda search, search.nashownotes that has now linked to the No Agenda player where the annotations are so you can find that segment on that episode I mean the stuff our community does is mind-blowing Mind blowing! No one has this You can't get it. It can't be done, it has to be done organically because... It's beautiful! And if it happens you get the organic... development that takes place. And we, that's what we had. Of course it has taken 10 years. Everything is in place! We can sell all the assets! That's a joke of it. Of course you can't sell the assets because they don't really come in the form of an asset but if you try to do the same thing and have the same impact on the show It would cost a mint, it would cost a fortune, it costs a lot more than we get in donations. Oh, it will cost hundreds of thousands of dollars

CHAPTER 33 / 36 Discussion

General Petraeus in the Netherlands, Trump's Negotiating Style

During a visit to the Netherlands, retired General David Petraeus addresses European concerns regarding President Trump's qualifications and conduct. Petraeus cites "The Art of the Deal" as a roadmap for Trump's "punch them in the nose" negotiating style. The hosts identify this as a growing media meme used to explain the administration's approach to international agreements like NAFTA.

david petraeus· donald trump· art of the deal· netherlands· negotiating style

2:42:40 Millions. Millions, you're probably right over time. Hey let's stay with the Dutch another fine Dutch descendant General Petraeus was in the Netherlands he's opening up an office there with his little security firm his consulting arm it's what you do when your general and your retired and your done but his father was a Dutchman And he received a question from a Dutch guy about Trump. As you may be well aware of, there is little respect for the way Trump conducts himself in the Netherlands and other parts of the Western world Yes including the report you saw him with his hookers pissing on the bed It's crazy this man we don't like him here He conducts himself in the Netherlands and other parts of the Western world

2:43:23 In fact, many people think he is absolutely not qualified to be the president of the United States. What do you think of this? We have to acknowledge that this is a guy who told us what he would do in his book The Art Of The Deal Now this is a meme! This is a meme I've heard multiple people state and it's the first time I got a clip of it The meme is, you knew what you were getting when we elected him. Read the art of the deal where he goes and says, You gotta punch your opponent in the nose. You got to go in big so you have a negotiating standpoint Like that was some big secret, but it's the meme now and he is repeating it. The art of the deal He says before you negotiate with somebody Before you even sit down You punch the other guy in the nose Now whether you agree with that style or not That is how he does it But some of that is for effect Some of that to get attention Some of that is to keep the other guy off balance

2:44:19 And there is some merit to that. You have to be careful with that, though if you inadvertently end up in a crisis with someone who thinks you might do something irrational because that could be an unstable situation but before you get into a crisis it might actually improve your bargaining although we have to see what will happen with the North American free trade agreement what will happen with the Korea-US Free Trade Agreement and so forth There you go It's Dutch day here on the show Looks like it. Yes, I was like we kind of go in Dutch yes donations yes, yes is very good half price half price We say it's a and its Americans you know that right? We've talked about that right? Yes, we have The dutch dub you know he said going Duchess your cheap-ass Dutch and the Dutch say let's do an American party everyone brings their own I have a one last clip out play

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Rex Tillerson, India Partnership and the "Planet" Meme

Secretary of State Rex Tillerson delivers a speech outlining the strategic importance of a 100-year partnership between the United States and India. He emphasizes the "Indo-Pacific" region as the focal point of 21st-century energy and trade routes. The hosts note the repeated use of the word "planet" by both Tillerson and John McCain, speculating on whether it signals a shift in globalist rhetoric.

rex tillerson· india· indo-pacific· john mccain· global economy· pipelines

2:45:20 And it's not that long, but and it's kind of boring because it's Tillerson. And Tillerson is extremely boring speaker. Oh good then I'll wrap it up after your boring Tillerson with Wow, shoot I won. I have another boring... Let's see how boring yours is? Well this was done at one of these meetings that C-SPAN covers in one of these high end groups of some sort and he is discussing it as a long speech because well its not that long about 40 minute speech In there this is the nut of the speech He discusses our relationship with India The whole speech was about India and he discusses our relationship with India, and he throws in all the geopolitical stuff. And everything we really need to know so we have a little foundation this reminds me of Mark Miley's general who gave us this speech on exactly how the world operates in todays situation which is a dynamite piece of work but this is good information too you can hear

2:46:20 All the little kinds of memes that you hear a lot of this background stuff because brought to the fore. Very interesting. It's powerful democratic example and it's increasing stature on the world stage, it makes perfect sense that the United States at this time should seek to build on the strong foundation of our years of cooperation with India It is indeed time to double down on a democratic partner that is still rising and rising responsibly for the next 100 years. But above all, the world – and the Indo-Pacific in particular – needs the United States and India to have a strong partnership. India and the United States must as the Indian saying goes do the needful. What? What is this saying?

2:47:08 Play it back. I never could catch it perfectly its must is India as the Indian saying goes Do the needful do the needful? It's what it sounds like hmm. I don't like it dude either How about just do it and be like Nike man as the end you're saying goes to the need for Our two countries can be the voice the world needs to be, standing firm in defense of a rules-based order to promote sovereign countries' unhindered access to the planet's shared spaces – be they on land, at sea or in cyberspace. In particular, India and the United States must foster greater prosperity and security with the aim of a free and open Indo-Pacific

2:47:53 The Indo-Pacific, including the entire Indian Ocean, the Western Pacific and the nations that surround them will be the most consequential part of the globe in the 21st century. Home to more than 3 billion people, this region is the focal point of the world's energy and trade routes. 40% of the world's oil supply crisscrosses the Indian Ocean every day through critical points of transit like the Straits of Malacca and Hormuz. And with emerging economies in Africa and fastest growing economy in middle class in India whole economies are changing to account for this global shift in market share

2:48:30 Asia's share of global GDP is expected to surpass 50% by the middle of this century. Yeah, this is really good and we forget to talk about the Unicall pipeline in Afghanistan The whole point of that thing was always To get it from Afghanistan to Pakistan into India and then hopefully into China It's always been about the pipelines and the oil, and I'm glad that Tillerson is on it. Now it's kind of sad because he's an oil guy that makes him sound like a shill." Yeah, he did something else in that little talk—that clip—and you remind me…I don't have this. So I was thinking of getting a copy and then deconstructing it a little bit which was John McCain's horrible speech. Oh, I didn't see that one. Do you have it?

2:49:17 massive speech where he condemned Trump and all these things, and talked about the New World Order and how we're bailing out on it. Nationalism is the worst thing imaginable I'm going to try to get this for the next show. And he goes on and on bitching and moaning about the alt-right and everything in between...and HE goes on and uses the word planet! Planet? That's what Tillerson did. Huh. Tillerson uses the word planet Coincidence? We're not talking about the Earth. We're not talking about the globe, we are talking about the world economy, we are talking about the planet! Hmm... Now these guys doing deals with the aliens?! Maybe that's just signs of- The greys they're talking about I mean what's it why you using the word planet all of us sudden well we never have never noticed this before but but McCain made a big deal about talking about the planet hmm

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Jake Tapper and Rex Tillerson, "Moron" Comment Controversy

CNN's Jake Tapper repeatedly presses Rex Tillerson on whether he called President Trump a "moron," a question Tillerson refuses to "dignify with an answer." The hosts criticize the exchange as emblematic of the "destructive games" played by Washington media, where trivial personal insults are prioritized over substantive geopolitical issues.

jake tapper· rex tillerson· cnn· media criticism· washington games

2:50:14 I wonder. Now, I'm gonna have to go back and listen to the generals speech again. Yeah, I'm going to listen too. Someone did tell me that he there was some disparaging stuff or that he was yapping about people saying that he was responsible for...that he made ISIS videos Was that in there as well? Is that where you talked about it? I don't remember because i haven't heard the whole speech if I did Alright well ill take a look at it but we'll always come up with different clips so clip away and Ill see if I find something too yeah thats why I didn't do any Ellen clips But ill leave McCain as your beat Now, while this is extremely interesting and to know the geopolitical stance of our Secretary of State and the administration. Meanwhile back at The Ranch at CNN here's all that Jake Tapper could talk about when he had Rex Tillerson in the studio Ever since you called it petty I've been thinking a lot about it because...I'm a reflective guy and understand the media makes mistakes and the media always could improve

2:51:10 But here's the thing. Either you didn't say it, in which case there are a whole bunch of administration officials telling the press and telling the president that you did and that is serious problem or you did say it And look your serious guy for you to say something like that suggests a real frustration with the commander-in-chief So when you don't answer the question It makes people think That you probably did say it but either way whatever happened it is serious so can you please clear up As I said, Jake. I'm not playing these are the games of Washington These are the destructive games in this town They're not helpful to anyone and so my position on it is...I'm not playing

2:51:54 I'm not playing. You want to make a game out of it? I'm not playing." I'm not making, I mean i'm just trying to see clarity because saying that if I said that my boss was a moron and that would be a serious issue wouldn't be... And maybe my boss doesn't control nukes. Um, I'm willing to move on but I just want to be clear you still haven't denied that you called him a moron and you know A lot of people are gonna watch this and think he probably said it. I'm not dignifying the question with an answer, Jake And i'm a little surprised you want to spend so much time on it when there's so many important issues around the world Thank you! That is why we exist Because you just can't get any freaking news from these people No They're like a bunch of kids You said it? You didn't say it Did you just say it? You didn't say it So are you

2:52:43 Makes me ill. Alright everybody, uh that's what we do We hope you received some value from it if you did consider sending some value our way Dvorak.org slash na remember that for our Sunday show and thank you to everybody who started supporting us on a twofer our special promotion for our 10th anniversary ten years living on the lowest rung of the show business ladder Yep And we'll be back then on Sunday. Until then, coming to you from downtown Austin Texas here's the capital of the Dronestar State it is also FEMA region 6 on all of the government maps in the common law condo in the Cluedio 5x9 In The Morning everybody I am Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where this sun is not going to come out today but we have a sunny show I'm John C. Durack Sunny Show Alright

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Show Sign-off, Ant Invasion Anecdote and Final Credits

The hosts sign off from Austin and Silicon Valley, concluding the 974th episode. A final humorous anecdote describes a host's "ant invasion" and the peppery taste of accidentally consuming an ant. The episode ends with a series of musical clips, donor thank-yous, and the traditional "Adios Mofo" sign-off.

sign-off· ants· austin· silicon valley· value for value· adios mofo

2:53:40 Talk to you on Sunday, until then everybody as always Adios! Movo! Harvey's love boat On the ocean there is nowhere to run On the love- There's potted plants there for everyone In the morning It's what I like about You so uptight

2:54:48 If you wanna be in high karma tonight Well I'll keep whispering in your ear All those things you don't want to It's what I like about, it's what I like about Wanna get my cock out and finish myself in this plan Love the catwalk, I polished my skull And it's true! It's what I like about Here comes the ghoul Oh gosh Can you see that juice? You've got karma

2:55:42 Now promise me you will not mention a word of this to anyone, right? I love their parliament. Listen to how everyone's going nuts! Which we wouldn't have if we listened... ...to the muttering idiot sitting opposite me. I'm worried about the health of the Health Minister, who is so overexcited he might suffer a relapse that the Prime Minister will please withdraw the word idiot It's unparliamentary Honourable member for Brent Central who's in an animated state I do know what you had for breakfast but I think I ought to steer clear of it. Yeah?

2:56:44 I got ants. I don't know if we had ants. We had ant invasion. I was thinking, if you desiccated a big pile of ants and then ground them to a powder like fine-grind black pepper... We were having dinner and yeah! I got an ant somehow in the meal and I ate it These things are peppery. I got ants

2:57:58 I got ants. These ants, they don't need a lot and then you see when you find all the ones that are roaming around... I'm going to back them off by doing the burning trick. You torch them. And leave him there. The only ant... There are occasional moments where there's an ant that you do not torch and that's an ant that is carrying one of the dead ants back. I got ants! I got ants. I got ants, ants, ants? Ants! Donate to No Agenda They give us shows week after week Donate to No Agenda

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