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00:00 Okay. With one foot squarely at each alternate universe and broadcasting live from the darkest corners on the internet, here in Austin Tejas. In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley where the rain has stopped but reservoirs are filled to capacity with John C. Dvorak It's crackpotting boomskill! You got no drought

00:35 Drought be done. It's supposed to last for decades and actually never end Yes, we're all gonna die. This is as early as last year they said this Something new today John I just want to mention this up front okay? Yeah for some reason. I'm in a bit of an archival mode oh yeah, I know so I've been thinking about you know this what are we down our tenth year and we've got But we got a lot, I will get to it later. I got a segment called the no agenda story because we all, we both have great stories so... The No Agenda Story? Yeah and from time to time we tell the story again but its nice to have a collection of those in audio which I think would be great and then of course we could do our album Our Greatest Hits record Of Stories? Oh yeah! When I was a kid That's the title of it when I was a kid you nailed that that is the title of our double LP

01:34 But today, I think this will be for one time and one time only. I decided since people we always say we make it look so easy what we do We do? This is where you say yeah! Hey man, we're gonna make it real easy So I thought for one time at one time only I am screencasting live at this moment on the YouTubes And so people can see my entire desktop, so you can see all the things that happen during the show including the chat which is really the main reason. I would like people in the chat to see what i'm seeing and the challenges that they present me often and the good things! In a little window on the bottom left hand corner you'll see the mixer and the jingle machine where you'll see my hands

02:26 And this will be a one-time archive so that we can you know it's just so you don't have enough to do What you're telling me? It took me four hours four hours yesterday to get this working So you did put four hours into this instead of show prep. This is why they still video shows are no good Okay, John if you really think that I would let show prep suffer under this then your douche because that's not what I am about But this is not video of me and if people seeing talking heads. This is a technical... With the cans on you, yeah, they have cans on you No You don't see that have you ever seen someone show how the sausage is made here? Here you see my screen desktop

03:06 It's a screencast. Should I go look at this? Well, you could if you want to. You're recording it though aren't ya? Of course! So I can go look at it anytime I want. Yeah of course don't need to do it now we have a show to do. We have a show to do and I think maybe we should just start off John by well me I don't know did you have breakfast yet Why, you gonna make me throw up? Well when you travel back and forth between universes it can be a little complicated. Oh we're going to do this right away? You know I get nauseous Okay then you start with something else We'll go that in the middle No no let's just go do the universe I can do it Hold on lemme get some tea that will calm my stomach I'll drink some coffee I feel its better when I move into the alternate reality Are you ready?! From this day

03:53 See it hurts doesn't it? Where did dog come from? Well, the dogs live in all universes simultaneously. Yeah there's only one dog consciousness. There is just one dog! I've always said that there is only one dog. There really is only ONE DOG. Ah man so fun to see all the alternate universes and...

04:37 People just recognizing it and saying it outright. Tim Kaine, almost Vice President of the United States... How's it going for you and Secretary Clinton these days? I mean we think about you once in a while because I think he did a good job running and you know the Zeitgeist wasn't quite right. He did a good job running! You know what? You did a good job running my friend. Good job! And then you know the Zeitgeist was I think it had more to do with the zeitgeist than anything else. Just the mood of the country was against the ins and for the outcomes, at least in those states that matter. What's your feeling about that whole election just now? It seems kind of surreal Chris. I wake up some mornings and it seems like the campaign was a dream and then I wake up other mornings thinking I must be living through some alternate reality now so this is the reality Senator! Just so you know this is the reality

05:30 But more fun was Lena Dunham who was doing the rounds she her last the last episode of her HB is HBO show The Girls Show the last HBO. I think it's something else or CW or no, I think it's a I don't care if it's HBO so she's everywhere promoting this last episode and of course She is a incredible SJW Social justice warrior. And I have another clip later on about from her, but I thought we'd just get into this... What was this? I think this might've been on the Today Show. It's really important to remember that- And everything we find interesting about millennials is in here. Important how she talks! It's really important to remember that

06:17 It is an incredible problem that 53% of women in this country, 53% of white women in this country voted for Donald Trump. This is a big problem! Terrible problem. That's more which means that they're not only voting against the interests of Their sisters of women who may not look like them who they may not understand whose rights are just as important But it's all important Important important important like them, but they may not understand whose rights are just as important but it's also remember that They are in that case voting against their own best interest and to me a part of feminism is It's almost like

06:53 being a parent to a teenager where they're so mad at you, they think you're such a piece of crap and your like I know you hate me right now but i love you and everything im doing is because i love you and i want us all to be safe. But those women in there... Hold on a second stop. Lena Dunham has a teenage daughter? Is that what she's saying? Well it sounds like she's speaking from experience the way she describes the situation and you're like, I know you hate me right now but i love you and everything im doing is because i love you and want us all to be safe. But those women in their defense believe that he's going to bring back jobs a lot of them cause they are voting for their husbands and their family how do you respond to that? Well I think what really hard

07:38 is obviously it pains me as you know a Caucasian woman to think about how many women didn't think about women who looked different or had different life experiences and then them they didn't look outside their own backyard when they made the choice to vote for Donald Trump. But in their own backyard, there are no jobs! That's what I was going to say is that... But if you put food on the table it's hard for them to see another perspective when they're clearing no money to pay for health care do you know what i'm saying? Well I don't mean to-I'm sorry interrupted you I was raising up to do that. Sorry. I actually not thinking of you, I'm sorry. I think it's really important and of course understand what you're saying and I also think it's really important to understand

08:13 So many women aren't raised with the rhetoric of self-empowerment. The messages that they're hearing from Donald Trump may be very similar to the messages they've always heard from their fathers, from their brothers, from their husbands They haven't been given the message that they do matter and so while I think we have an incredible amount of work to do with enlightening those women sympathy for the societal structures that keep them from understanding what they need to keep themselves away from. I have sympathy for the societal structures? She says, I have sympathy for the societal structures! How can you have sympathy for a structure?! I heard that and was like what the hell is she actually saying!? She's just babbling...I have sympathy for the societal structures! Let's hear that again, that last bit

08:57 That was very odd. They're hearing from Donald Trump, maybe very similar to the messages they've always heard from their fathers, from their brothers, from their husbands... Once again F men! ...they haven't been given the message that they do matter and so while I think we have an incredible amount of work to do with enlightening those women, I also have sympathy for the societal structures that keep them from understanding what they need to keep themselves safe It's a societal structure. First of all, she says she has sympathy for the societal structures that keep them from learning that or with some blather and along those lines Why would you let's assume? That the societal structure was actually an animate object that you could have sympathy for why would she have sympathy for it? It's keeping these women down Yes did the logic that she just expressed is That she's sympathetic to keeping these women down yes

09:52 Yeah, she's okay. She's well there's more. She just blathering that's the point people love her. Love her considering the current administration I mean obviously like everyone i have so many concerns about everything ranging from you know xenophobia and you know new way that America is treating immigrants who've always been such an essential part of our history all the way to global warming. But for me, where my heart lies will always be in women's issues and making sure that women have access to safe and affordable reproductive care." I am so tired of these words! Safe and affordable reproductive care... Why can't we just say safe abortions? Are you afraid of offending somebody? Just say safe abortions! Safe and affordable reproductive car- Okay cheap safe abortions then

10:44 That would be perfectly fine for me. It's newspeak, it's newspeak. ...that women have access to safe and affordable reproductive care... ...and making sure that no woman based on her economic status gender assigned at birth religion or any aspect of who she is on a soul level is... John can I ask you question? Who are you on the soul level? Well, on the soul level I got like for one thing. I need new heels But I think the soul itself is a pretty good shape or any aspect of who she is On a soul level is denied the basic rights that we all deserve Where did this alternate universe story come from? Came from the alternate universe

11:38 That's right. I have more, but you've been archiving these? Yeah, I have more from the view but it is too early for the view so i can't do it right now It's pretty nauseating Let's get back to our own time Alright go! Oh no we're going in our own universe Hold on let me get back into it Are You Ready?! From this day forward...it's going to be only I do want to mention Kevin of the Luxembourg Bohemia Sir Kevin of Sir Kevin of the Luxembourg bohemian Alliance wrote me a note and he says The term alternative universe that the reason why people are using it is because Of the man in the high castle. Have you ever seen this show?

12:40 I tried watching it from when they first came out. I watched episode one and a little bit of episode two It's unwatchable. I have unwatchable. I am not why not a lot of people like the way, I think it's unwatchables tedious its dumb Its unwatchable well here's Kevin's deep in the premise stinks to by the way. I don't know I've not watched I don't know what it's about I'm gonna watch like I'm gonna well Here's what he says In a recent discussion with my sister on why liberals and the media keep making references to the alternate universe, my sister's quick response was... The man in the high castle. This seems plausible because number one science fiction is quite popular with liberals Number two No That's what he says Most liberals likely have Amazon Prime possible And most have likely watched at least the first episode of this series John seems like you fit right into that model

13:29 I tend to be a liberal. They view Trump as a fascist dictator, put those two things together... if you've ever seen an episode of The Man in the High Castle then you start to understand why people use the alternate universe. Well, I think it makes sense. Okay well, I say meh. Meh? Yeah meh. Meh okay well blow me away then big man Okay, well let's start with it since we're back in our universe. Let's get right to it! Let's get right to the flu season and this flu report CBS1 Flu season is reaching its peak with the virus now widespread In 43 states more than 38 thousand cases have been confirmed so far Here's Dr.. John LePook

14:13 With a quarter of the student body in Clarkton, Missouri homesick with the flu school officials decided to park the buses and close the doors. We were dropping like flies so we had about 70 kids out that's a first for Superintendent Delane Beckwith. Friday I was hurting then got home Friday night sick all day Saturday Missouri is one of 23 states with high activity this season and we've seen a total of 20 flu related deaths in children I'm sick on Long Island, New York City Nassau University Medical Center great edit by the way. That's great You should have ISO that I did oh wait where is it? Oh

14:52 You good man. I'm sick. They did deaths in children. I'm sick on Long Island near New York City, Nassau University Medical Center's pediatric emergency room is now open 24 7 to deal with an influx of flu this season we're seeing a lot of the h3 virus so this is one where people get very sick and it normally affects elderly people children and pregnant women Dr. Ben DeLaRosa of Holy Name Medical Center in New Jersey says his emergency room has been busy We're right around the time where you would see a peak. Let's sit forward for me Audrey Fagnano began to have symptoms after her co-worker was diagnosed with the flu I felt like i was going to faint and couldn't stay awake She tested negative for flu but says now she plans to get the vaccine Oh yeah, mhm After you already had it Ok let's go, let's stop, I stopped it right there on the report

15:48 Let's deconstruct a little bit of what CBS is doing here. They found some woman who didn't have the flu Yes, she's in a sick bed. She's in the hospital laying down she looks like crap is the visual. She's laying on her side and she's complaining that somebody had the flu so she got something and she got dizzy and now she can't wake up. She's falling asleep. She probably has encephalitis nobody cares about that. She's laying there and then they say Then they, in other words there's all these cases of the flu where they can't find anybody with the flu so they find this woman. Some just random woman who happens to be in the hospital and then she- They say and then just a pat they gloss it over by really rapidly saying oh she didn't have the flu by the way but she's gonna get the shot

16:37 What kind of a report is this? Yeah, it's no good. It's no good But it's promotion obviously its promotion to get his time and get the flu shot him They've been trying was aghast at the fact that they'd have some woman bitching and moaning about blue like symptoms who didn't have the flu Finished off part two as they just a wrap It's just, yes. I have it for you right here. I'm sick but says now she plans to get the vaccine Here in Illinois there has been an uptick in flu activity over the past week with 43 people admitted to intensive care units The CDC says this years flu vaccine is a good match against this years flu virus and 145 million doses have been shipped out John LePoucq thanks doctor

17:25 I miss those days. Why can't we just bring swine flu back? That was more fun. Oh, they will don't worry about it It was more fun. It's definitely gonna happen Didn't work that time though day they got the kinks ironed out What kind of a report do they just find some random person and then they say unbelievable this is the worst CBS which i'm following closely there's one thing after another with them You're kind of brain dead when you're watching these news reports. Oh, that poor woman and then they say oh she didn't have to do that's nice and oh she can get a shot That's good I'll get one too. I don't understand the mechanism here They're trying to exploit but it is disgusting yeah, I got a clip late this morning Which really kind of blew me away from the spokeswoman from by any means necessary

18:21 which is an organization that has a website but doesn't have it. And as far as I can tell, you know it's not a non-profit they don't even have an About Us page. The woman's name is Yvette Falarca and Yvette Falarca is a middle school teacher in the Berkeley area and she was at the...she was an active participant UC Berkeley riots recently when Milo was there and Yeah, I could have put this in the alternate universe really but it's more kind of like wow Pete. This woman is just so Convicted and so incredibly off the rails is she a Cal student? I don't know if she well She's uh, he's no longer student. She's a what would she be doing at this whole? She's an activist. She is in charge of by any means necessary also known as BAM n.com

19:18 Okay. And she sat down and the first thing of course we need to talk about is her feelings about Milo because this is why she needed to do this, uh... She needed to spawn on this protest. You might want- She hates gays? Well, um... She hates specifically hates gays who have sex with black men although she says it in a very funny manner. She's kind of like a multi culty I'd say she's brown Asian kind of mixture. Here we go First of all, tell me what specifically is it about Milo Yiannopoulos that you and others have an issue with? Well first of all Milo Yiannopolous is a fascist He's a member of the Faschisti he is Italian organization that was I think disbanded sometime in the 40s

20:09 What do you think she means when she says a fascist? I think she means the member of the Fascisti from Italy and the organization started in the 20's. But seriously, what do you think she... Oh that means just in general term like that means your for Trump There you go He's a white supremacist. He's a white supremacists Which is why he has sex with black men because, you know then of course he only tops them I guess so that's any supreme be it Supreme yes funded by Steve Bannon and Breitbart He works in Breitbart as this is funded by Steve like to get some funding

20:49 That'd be nice. He's an acolyte. Wait, hold on... It was a fascist he's a white supremacist he's funded by Steve Bannon and Breitbart he's an acolyte of Donald Trump And he was on the UC Berkeley campus to try to recruit more fascists and to put your tax on them. He was always there? To recruit fascists?! Yeah! They had a sign-up sheet didn't you see it? This woman teaches school!? Middle School yeah And I looked her up, you know, Berkleyside which is some blog or something out there. She's been put on a mini... Berkleyside is good operation. It's all lefties but it's a good local news source and one of the best in the country. Oh good well she shows up a lot in that. The Berkeley School District has placed her on administrative leave because she's a troublemaker. She's a big trouble maker and obviously she's getting money from somewhere if she can just do all this, I think

21:40 You never know last bit here. I wouldn't guarantee that well, yes you could just be completely off her right of Donald Trump And he was on the UC Berkeley campus to try to recruit more fascists and to wage attacks on Muslim students immigrant students women and trans Okay So he was there to recruit wages and wage attacks? Yeah, I could I could bring Milo down with I could bring Milo down. I mean it's just me come on That's ridiculous. All right, uh she continues this was a really fantastic interview more fear about Milo what is the real fear of him having a conversation with the 500 students or the 500 people who had bought tickets to the event yeah I'm a little disappointed you didn't he was gonna give his speech wasn't it? It's a conversation

22:28 Yeah, it was a speech. I don't see his speech in the conversation being the same thing but okay. The 500 people who had bought tickets to the event well just to go back to how you characterize the protest this isn't a question of violent versus peaceful protests i was there and there were thousands of people out there who were united It was a mass protest. It was a militant protest. Militant protests which is what she's all about And everyone was there to shut him down and so whatever it was going to take to do that We were all there with a united cause and we are stunningly successful. But why not be peaceful about it? Why not, you know chant and hold your signs and things but when you take the barricades And you destroy the building and when you set fires isn't that counterproductive I think that's a left has been far too timid for way too long. Oh, we need more

23:19 And it's why we've even gotten in this position where we even have someone like Donald Trump leading a fascist movement Is can I sign up for this is there sign-up sheet somewhere This woman should be arrested. She's already admitted to being part of that mess Oh, it gets better as the president of the United States We need to make sure that we have more mass protests more militant protest that okay? It's you not calling for violence Or is militant protest not really called? I think it's a bit borderline. Yeah, it's just dressing up badass. The black block is what uh what it's called by the way Black with a K More militant protests that are mass and militant And the reality is that these aren't people just putting forward their ideas There's white supremacists who've already murdered six muslims just five days ago in Quebec Is that what happened she's saying that

24:12 Let me just listen to that again, but she uses the word plural. I thought it was one guy It was just kind of maybe she's confused yeah black block. Yeah Thank you sub base Muslims Just five days ago in Quebec my back back back back back back back back. I'm going back. I'm going back here We go already murdered more back more back. Just putting forward their ideas There's white supremacists who've already murdered six Muslims? Just five days ago in Quebec. I thought maybe I misunderstand what happened in Quebec Were there white supremacists who killed Muslims? Did I miss... There was a guy who killed some Muslims that were in there. Okay, so she's getting feisty!

25:05 Yeah, some woman was beaten down by white supremacists in Los Angeles. Korean? Crazy that would happen it wasn't the police She does feel the protest was very effective Some say that because of what happened at the protest this got national attention He did national interviews and so instead of his voice being heard by 500 people now millions of people are online googling Milo Yiannopoulos So does that defeat a little bit of what you were trying to do The right wing and the fascists in this country already have a spokesperson, and they've already found one in Trump Steve Bannon And also now Milo But now what I think was so important about our success on Wednesday Which is why it should be the model for how the movement needs to take things now really? Because let me finish. It's because oh did you hear that yeah? Let me finish Oh What a douche yeah because but when we finish my meeting because

26:01 We need to make sure that the millions of people out there who are angry and who are scared Under Donald Trump and everything that he's doing now Know that there are people out there Who will stand up in a fight? The way the movement needs to but clearly Wednesday was not business as usual It was people fighting united in a mass effort any United effort, and by any means necessary Yeah By Any Means Necessary which By any means necessary is a term I think recently used by Dr. Martin Luther King? That I know of Yeah, I think so...I wrote it down somewhere. I'm pretty sure that's some term Well now we have to look Yeah yeah might have to do a little consultation

26:53 Something that Stalin would say. It originated much earlier and I don't know why I can't find it at this moment. Wikipedia has got a whole thing. The translation of a phrase by French intellectual Jean-Paul Sartre in his play Dirty Hands, it entered the popular civil rights culture through a speech given by Malcolm X Ah, militants. At the Organization of Afro-American Unity founding rally in June 1964 it's generally considered to leave open all available tactics for the desired ends including violence! However the necessary qualifier adds a caveat if violence is not necessarily...not necessary that's what this woman could have called her out on If violence is not necessarily then presumably it should not be used

27:46 Presumably. Wikipedia, now that they've banned the Daily Mail we get good stuff here! Yeah finally last clip here of course who was really to blame for all this? Chancellor Dirks is responsible for anything that happened and if the business community is upset they should join the professors and students in community members who are demanding that Dirk step down immediately because he had a chance to cancel the event to make sure it didn't happen there were hundreds hundreds of professors who demanded that for safety reasons safety reasons it doesn't make sense he didn't listen one two a few broken windows is nothing compared to the lives that are at stake and

28:27 If that's what it takes in order to make sure that more people don't get targeted, if that's what it takes to make sure that Milo Yiannopoulos or another white supremacist is not welcome or allowed to come to UC Berkeley and attack our community then good. Let's make sure then that doesn't happen in the future. So no regrets at all about what took place? You know I think we need to draw lessons from this build and build even stronger.

29:05 10 more seconds. This in terms of how we can build and build even stronger, how we can make sure that we build the movement and also that we continue to organize because it's not spontaneous this is about organizing and fighting by any means necessary. There you go any means necessary yeah blah blah blah blah blah but I give her a douchebag yes I were you if i had the button right there I'd be douchebag. Yeah the thing what bugs me is that not once in this whole interview did anyone say, you know you call him a fascist and he hates transgender and gays. She actually didn't say gays she said transgenders but he's gay and has a penchant for black men by his own admission I don't know this out of any experience but still it just doesn't make sense! No But thats beside the point these guys are out of control Yeah so keep an eye on By Any Means Necessary

30:05 I'm certainly keeping an eye on them. We'll never hear them again! I think you're very wrong, we're gonna... these you know look at that website later and see they got a lot of plans, scripts all kinds of stuff So I'm watching stuff. Today's for me is mostly deconstructing all kinds of crazy stories, and like... I have a long series here these are actually a series of shorter clips but they're pieced together so i can bitch and moan as we deconstruct the Frank saga because you brought this to mind on the last show with the discussion

30:44 the immigration scam. Yeah, which I have a little more on today yes of course oh you do because i have this guy Zach Iskell who came on Andrea Mitchell's show and she's trying to get a guy named Frank that he is he's trying to get a guy named just Frank guys name Frank into the country and it turns out that he's an ex-marine who was over in Iraq and he uh... is now board member of the International Refugee Assistance Project, and he's also the head of the Headstrong project to help refugees. And I'm thinking so this is just a promotion for him but... For the Tories' Volog! So they have decided to like bring this because everything now has to be a story

31:32 This story thing came into play some time ago, and I think was super popularized when Peter Guber wrote the book storytelling about how every but for how businessmen if they want to get their point across They want to tell a story and you hear a lot of memes about this Oh It's gotta be a story. If you tell us story then people relate to it better instead of you know, so okay Well, I think people do that naturally but not everybody is a storyteller right? This guy is So this guy and his buddy Frank, who he's trying to get into the country is concerned about the Trump situation. And now poor Frank has stuck at least that's kind of the premise. He is stuck

32:13 Well, among those relieved today with the court decision to suspend President Trump's travel ban is a former U.S. Marine officer who did two tours in Iraq. A former marine captain Zach Eskell wrote in an op-ed with The New York Times that Iraqi interpreters were his platoon's lifeline when he fought overseas. One Iraqi he calls Frank was wounded helping US soldiers retake Fallujah Iskall says that with the stroke of a pen, President Trump dashed Frank's plans to escape from Iraq. After six years of vetting he and his family had just been approved for visas when that executive order was signed. Zach Iskall joins me now. He is currently on the board of the International Refugee Assistance Project. Zach thank you very much for being with us. Yeah thanks so much for having me. Well is there an update since the temporary lifting of the ban? Has the interpreter you call Frank has gotten out of Iraq? He's still in Iraq.

33:04 But in the last week it looks like his case is again being moved forward so back in December or November we received a message That he had been approved to come to the US my wife and I started prepare our bedroom for him and his wife's arrival 18 month old than one on the way and Human interest start with a couple of oh, I'm one question wasn't there a movie about something like this something similar. Oh About about a translator and he can you couldn't get back. I think there was some Hollywood thing about this Yeah, I think you're right because I do remember something like that Okay first of all let's start with this guy Frank who they did put a picture up the guys 80 if he's a day And he's only 16 if he's announced He is old

33:53 And, I mean he's old. Maybe he is just shop-worn but he is old. He has a white mustache and looks like he has wrinkly face. Probably between 55 and 75. That's the only leeway that I can give him. So the likelihood of having a newborn at 18 months seems unlikely. Yeah, it seems a little... he's got one on the way and he's got an 18 month old. So okay so he works fast How old is his wife? I guess she's a spring chicken. I have no idea

34:29 But the way they also present it, oh this is terrible. But if you actually listen to what he says, yeah well it's still moving forward He has got his medical check up and some of those other stuff. He hasn't been denied anything No he hasn't been denied anything but the way they presented it as though Oh my God! This guy put his life on a line for us And he hasn't been denied anything and the guy says so, but the way they slip it in is very subtle. It's like well now he's moving forward with a medical... Let me stop you there. Nothing has changed with this guy. Do you think they're really slipping it in in a subtle way or are they just in total belief of this because they just see things, they see information interpreted differently? Then they can't be doing it on purpose The information is that he's actually still in the process and the way their brain processes it is, oh this horrible! Yeah cause of Trump

35:20 Yes, Trump. And meanwhile of course then we have to see this guy and the nonsense about the baby and all the rest is just crazy it seems to me I could be wrong maybe they maybe he's like Anthony Quinn I mean it's possible That's a reference. I actually understood that one. Okay, Frank Saga to rival and they have an 18 month old in one on the way And then all this happened. Um And about a week ago we found out that his case was moving forward and that he should be getting prepared for a medical screening which is the next step in the process So what? We'll see what happens at this stage but at least the court ruling gives us some hope

36:01 Zach, what would you tell Donald Trump and his advisors who are saying that there is a real national security threat from these seven countries? And they point to President Obama in Congress for having isolated these countries as dangerous transit points. What would you say to them about the impact on refugees on people like your former interpreter and others caught up in all this? It's a great question I mean it's not a great question! No its not! Its not a great question Now If you go play the just a very beginning that clip again because they say oh now it's you know this thing is what happened It's moving forward. There's nothing that has changed in this story played Just the beginning once again rival, and they have an 18 month old than one on the way and Then all this happened And about a week ago we found out that his case was moving forward in that Okay stop yeah, it's cases all of this all this happened Yeah

36:59 All this happened and his case is moving forward. It's a non-story, it's completely contradictory! It's presented as though all hell has broken loose but he himself... these kinds of stories And this is MSNBC which is laced with this sort of thing Oh oh can I do just a little entrement? MSNBC Entrement Rachel Maddow Just so you can get an ISO It wasn't ISO, what happened? There was an anti-climactic ISO. Yeah that really blew hold on why isn't it working We do not give a flying flipping freaking fruitcake ficus fjord we do not give any F's

37:41 Brother. OK, now here's another one that kind of got my attention. This is the clip three people like your former interpreter and others caught up in all this. It's a great question. I mean, I think one of the arguments that they are making is that these are countries that don't have that don't have databases and don't have control over their population. And so you have concern that somebody who's trying to come to this country, they are not who they say they are My response to that would be, especially with folks who have served as translators for the US military we know exactly who they are. I mean Frank is somebody who served with me for five months in combat he was shot assaulting a building with my platoon He has numerous letters of recommendations from military officers

38:29 honorably, wore our Marine Corps uniform in combat. Something that very few Americans do today and... That's why he is being let in! That's why the process is moving along isn't it? It is moving along, so I don't know what his bitch is. But that little ditty at the end...I had to stop it He wore the Marine uniform Can you wear a marine uniform if you're not a marine? Can't just wear regular fatigues but he wore the Marine uniform and then this guy says something very few Americans do nowadays What are they wearing

39:08 What does this mean? Camel pants. We wear camel pants or we wear lululemon. This comes into play again later, he says it again that he wore the marine uniform which means we have to bring him in I guess, because some little kid just put a marine uniform on. Hey, I have to go to America now! He wore the marine uniform something very few Americans do... What is he talking about? We need a Marine who listens to this show explain this Can you wear a marine uniform if you're not a Marine and why don't Marines wear the uniform?!

39:46 Well, I okay. I understand your questioning let me just listen that last bit again that he said the tan He has numerous letters of recommendations from military officers he served our country as honorably, wore our Marine Corps uniform in combat. Something that very few Americans do today." And... I think you understand what he's saying as well. You just like interpreting it differently for the show sake but first of all, I do not think he wore a marine uniform. He probably had fatigues on. I am not interpreting it. I'm just repeating what he said

40:23 What he's saying is that not a lot of... I believe his interpretation, what he's trying to say is see brown people care more about our country than you do whitey so let him in. I think that's what he's saying No Yes! That's exactly what it's saying Well that's disgusting if that's true your interpretation is completely crazy Well I'm in the other universe at the moment hello? Alright, so now we got that out of the way and some Marine will help us with this. Yes! And again the process is moving along swimmingly but this is like a big scandal So let's go to clip four Our Marine Corps uniform in combat something that very few Americans do today

41:07 And on the other side of it, in terms of refugees I mean i think it shows a complete ignorance Of how the refugee resettlement process works. If you are a refugee in Syria You don't just decide that your going to move to the US That's not the way this process works The way is works Well, that's interesting. That's an interesting little ditty there

41:49 For it is the beginning of the immigration scam that starts with the United Nations, what does he want? Does he want us to go back to us choosing ourself which I would be all for actually but... I would assume that Frank has been chosen. Yeah, Frank didn't go to the UN. I doubt it He doesn't explain any of that to us No he brings in this vetting process for the would-be ISIS guy wants you to do something bad and a which again is sounds like he's part of the refugee system this guy and if you know somehow profiteer and Well whenever your talk resettlement me he also says it shows it shows ignorance It shows ignorance by whom this was not

42:32 Part of the discussion that he's having with Andrea. He just throws this in and what and how does it show ignorance with this guy Frank who seems to be going along the process just fine yeah, although they're making its scary and And how is it showing any ignorance with him did he go through the UN? There's no evidence of that no I know he's got all these letters of recommendation. He's going straight into the country hmm So we're getting really mixed information here onward. Yes, outside of where you were leaving now you quote in fact General John Kelly who now is Homeland Security Secretary as telling you back in the day in 2007 when you were fighting As you were discussing and maybe it's the same interpreter and you say you'll never forget his words that wait a minute 2007

43:26 Yes, there's a lot 2007 yes guys been there for a while yeah But this all happened in 2007? I'm a little confused. No, no, no, this is all happening now! For some reason Andrea decides to do a flashback because she wants... Here's the reason This is because John Kelly who was the Homeland Security guy chosen by Trump was at some point we think not verified The commanding officer of this character here that were listening I But for some reason we have to bring in this other stuff and now we're gonna bring in John Kelly, Trump's man. For some unknown reason let's see what that reason is. John Kelly who now his Homeland Security Secretary as telling you back in the day in 2007 when you were fighting As you were discussing and maybe it's the same interpreter And you say you'll never forget his words

44:39 words that your interpreter had warned the Marine Corps uniform in combat and we had an obligation to keep him safe. Yeah, so I had a wonderful translator named Abood Al-Khufaji who came to the U.S., I testified in 2007 on active duty before the United States Senate on the need to protect refugees it's kind of amazing that now 10 years later were still dealing with these issues uh... three administrations later and um... before i testified i had to meet with general john kelly who at the time was the marine corps liaison to congress and uh... on one hand his job is to make sure it was not going to embarrass the marine corps

45:16 Corps as a young captain who's going in front of the Senate. But he also said to me that Abood was somebody who wore the Marine Corps uniform in combat and that meant something, and we had an obligation to safeguard him and his family." Again with the uniform... So you wear the Marine Corps uniform in combat? He always says, y'know, a clause or subclause always in combat. Well these guys are in combat! That's the real deal. Yeah but this-but he specifically says that. To make sure that it's, you know I guess you're supposed to think the guy is dodging bullets and he probably is. Now, because you did that and I don't know why you have to wear the Marine Corps uniform for this to apply. Either you're helping us or you're not but okay You're wearing the Marine Corps uniform for some reason maybe you don't have other clothes Or it seems like a good you'd be same size as somebody else So now that you've worn this and this is according to Kelly We are obligated The country is obligated To protect him And his family Because of the uniform Yes

46:19 I understand. Why? Well, he's not in the Marines to begin with...I will say it again! I'll just say it again this is brainwashing and the idea is hey he puts on the uniform you whitey at home you didn't do that so he's better than you he deserves to live here more than you actually I think that's what he's saying That's, I know that's what you're thinking and it's a convincing argument considering the universe split but let's finish this off. This last clip is two seconds? Yeah. Are they expected to hold a joint? No that was it. That's it!

46:59 I must have misclicked it. Okay, well there wasn't anything in the last part anyway that was important you can reverse clip You threw the good part on the cutting room floor and left him with a bit That's okay short little shortening gag the point is is that? There's nothing wrong Nothing bad, but they produce a whole segment and interview with the guy as if bad things are happening. And there's no evidence of that even by this guy's own admission but it is presented to you as though this is all bad. And with the kind of the onerous way it's, you know... This is a great example of MSNBC almost presenting good news as bad news. As bad news! Yeah! With the number of insults thrown in the way you see it. Yeah yeah totally the way I see it what interests me is the complete

47:58 just ignoring what is happening with other countries who are having immigration issues, particularly as it pertains to terrorism. I think it's pretty fair to say that the European Union has had its pretty fair share of bad things happen with migrants from some in some cases the places that Obama chose Rubble eyes. Rubble eyes, exactly. Quick Euro News report regarding... By the way before you drop the topic Well no it's in the same topic It's about the travel bans The same topic Okay but before you dropped a point where you were at

48:41 How does the UN account for all these people that came over on boats or snuck around or came down through Finland or Norway? That's exactly what this report is about. The EU's foreign policy chief has defended a deal to finance migrant camps in Libya It's part of a move to stem immigration from Africa. When the UNHCR manages to operate in a centre and then identifies someone as someone in need and having the right to international protection, then the UNHCR starts a resettlement programme and those persons are resettled being it in Europe, Canada or United States that I don't know... Or elsewhere in the world

49:26 The EU wants to help Libya's coast guard stop migrants leaving in the first place. Leaders also pledged to help the country protect its southern border. Libya has been ravaged by conflict since the fall of Muammar Gaddafi in 2011, a UN-backed government doesn't control all of the country There's a rival administration in the east and the so-called Islamic State also operates inside Libya. So, the European Union is doing a lot of things... ...so they want to stop them from even getting on the boat? That's the idea! Now I don't... you would think that United Nations was taking care all that Don't they also have blue helmets can't they be processing people and pointing gun at him at same time

50:13 You'd think, or just pooping around so they can get everyone to call her. That would slow things down But this whole... and of course your MSNBC clips are a part of this immigration conversation It's as if everyone has gone completely stupid We heard Bill Clinton in 1996 A lot of people have sent me this one This is back to 2005 then Senator Obama We all agree on the need to better secure the border and to punish employers who choose to hire illegal immigrants. You know, we are a generous and welcoming people here in the United States but those who enter the country illegally and those who employ them disrespect the rule of law uh...and they are showing disregard for those who are following the law

51:04 We simply cannot allow people to pour into the United States undetected, undocumented unchecked and circumventing the line of people who are waiting patiently diligently and lawfully to become immigrants in this country. So that's why we need to start by giving agencies charge with border security new technology new facilities and more people to stop process and deport illegal immigrants Now it doesn't sound like that's very different other than... I don't see it. Well the thing that is different is... What does this teacher in Berkeley think?

51:42 What's different about, first of all President Obama says illegal immigrants doesn't say illegal aliens. So he is a guy who is very smart and very very smart. He knows what to say and what not to say but also you know immediately I would like to see an audit of all this great stuff we paid for it the taxpayers paid for this electronic surveillance and drones and everything apparently not working But that's what he wanted not anything physical. Let's go back to come back to now You know you can't do that more than a couple times as sure it changes your molecular structure You leave good for you leave pieces of your behind only going back a year though I guess is okay Here's a little piece with Judy Woodruff PBS

52:30 with the meme that has been very interesting to me. First, it started with these are seven predominantly Muslim nations and that was meme number one. Meme number two is no terrorist attack ever came from anyone from these restricted countries! Yes let's listen to this. The reason these seven countries which were identified by the Obama administration are listed is because we have a hard time corroborating the veracity of people's claims coming from those countries. Those countries in particular, we have a hard time discerning who exactly these people are that are coming into the country. That is why it's totally reasonable and rational to have a pause in this program so that we can update and upgrade our vetting standards so that we can be better secure to make sure

53:18 we don't have somebody trying to infiltrate the network. But there haven't been terrorist incidents perpetrated by people from these countries, I mean that's... From these countries or through the refugee population? From these countries absolutely! From this from the refugee population but right is we now know that ISIS is trying to infiltrate refugee populations That's intelligence that has already been unclassified So this meme just continues and it morphs around one as well I meant it wasn't any refugee who had ever done that you know blah blah My favorite Angela Rye on CNN who is now full-time at CNN and she's gone full retard That's with three E's by the way. Reeeetard It's a reddit joke, she luckily gets butt slammed by what's her name Kaylee McEnany

54:08 who was also always on CNN, her full-time job. And then listen to Angela Rye backpedal into trying to fit this meme into what she's saying. I think the other real challenge you have is in this particular executive order that countries that he's banning there has not been a single attack on US soil by anyone from those countries from the 70s to 2015 That's a fact That's true, Somalia. There were three knife attacks last year No but this is about foreign nationals So we're talking about foreign nationals no one was killed Somali refugees 25 were wounded though No one was killed Oh no one was killed! It's different when they're not killed Okay On American soil I'm not saying that we should undermine that But if we are going to use 9-11 as the bait Then we should talk about the 9-11 country You say the bait or the base?

54:56 Sound like she tried to say base, but it came out as bait. I do think that we should if we're gonna use 9-11 as debate then we should talk about... As debate? Debate! Then we should talk about the 9-11. What is she saying let's listen this will try one more time. We should talk about the 9-11 countries. Oh shoot missed it. One more time why not I'm not saying that we should undermine that, but if we're going to use 9-11 as the bait then we should talk about the 9-11 country. She's saying debate! I'm hearing debate! Well she said...I think she is saying if were gonna use 9-11 DEBATE. Ummm okay. She just not...she just not erudite. Yeah alright.

55:38 So that is completely debunkable. Go to SnopesForSnopes.com to find out more about that But the mind control is really in full effect here, oh this was great This was very funny Just listen to it. One of the president's recent orders prioritizes the deportation of illegal immigrants who have committed crimes. Well, Carter Evans found a woman caught by this order who had been allowed to remain in Phoenix under President Obama's immigration policy A crowd of angry protesters tried to prevent Guadalupe Garcia de Reyes from being deported. One even tied himself to the police van, but it was futile. Activist Carlos Garcia delivered the news. She has been deported and this has been

56:29 One of the first victims of President Trump. In Arizona, an undocumented woman at the center of immigration uproar has now been deported after 21 years living in the U.S., she was arrested yesterday and shipped back to Mexico today. Now the family she leaves behind is voicing their outrage pointing fingers at the president NBC's Gotti Schwartz has details. Emotions erupting in front of a Phoenix ICE office. Protesters trying to stop a van carrying 36-year old Guadalupe Garcia de Rios, who is being deported to Mexico. This man over here that you're going to see he wedged himself inside of this wheel well Next to De Rios' window are two American born children struggling to stay strong for their mother. Ah... damn it

57:22 the first victim of deportation, John. We finally have it. Well you know there was a bunch of this action in California and it was... In Austin as well by the way and you know where they pick them up? Right in front your place? No no It's so easy at lunchtime they just go to the gas station because that's where all of them go and get lunch and their scratch off lotto tickets I'm not joking is the truth and that's where they're picking them up. That is a lot right now According to the research has been done by some real reporting They say this this whole operation which was of nationwide was planned long before Trump got an office, correct? Yes It's right And I think a lot of it had to do with they probably planted thinking that you know what? Probably really went into full steam when Trump got

58:14 elected right after the election because I say well we know now we don't to deal with the backlash from they party you know from the Obama administration and will just get this thing going and then we will be able to do this by a meal mid-february. Right? And so but oh it's okay let's just blame Trump for the whole thing yeah, and uh... i think i have a report on this. I'm gonna have another network report maybe something at figured you'd be doing well I had that I saw the thing happening in in Austin. While you're looking, here is NBC's Nicole Wallace she went to Pennsylvania and spoke to a former two-time Obama voter who wound up voting for Donald Trump Do you think we should be banning people from countries that haven't launched any attacks against the United States? I think they oughta stop everybody from coming in just

59:10 Let the country breathe and take a step back and figure out what's going on. I don't think that's un-American, you know Statue of Liberty? No! You know Statue of Liberty...I'm just gonna use that all the time. You know, Statue of Liberty. How is any of this un-American we've stopped Oftentimes, and we're supposed to be at a... You know one of the times that we do this severely which cut things off is during war. I mean World War II. We weren't letting anybody in. And supposedly we're out of war on terror that Obama's behind and Bush is behind

59:46 and you know the Congress is I don't know but this is a war we can stop everybody from coming in how's that on an American were trying to protect the country because we're at war just don't understand when you see story after story of bad things happening in the European Union. And, I mean, That's not happening. I don't see that maybe people don't know what's happening, maybe they've forgotten you know it's so traumatizing to think of Charlie Hebdo or about the Klan or Nice, you know? Maybe it's so uh traumatizing and then they can be true that would never happen now! I don't know what that is but it's messed up man... messed up

1:00:25 Well, there are reasons to think that's not going to happen to us but that is not one of them. I mean, yeah, I can see the rationale that we have had...we're a big country We've had no attacks and were not really easy to get in and out if there was a huge ocean on either side of us The bad apples, the ISIS guys even though i'v seen people freak out They don't have a navy, they haven't got an air force. They can't fly over here so they have to sneak in and it's not that easy to sneak in apparently. So we don't really have too many. We have a few lunatics that are you know self-radicalized but I just don't see it as like...I'm now shaking my boots. I personally especially

1:01:11 certain parts of the country. I see unbelievably soft targets that could be a disaster if somebody just had a bazooka and here's something i don't understand and when i say i don't understand, i don't understand why Trump hasn't brought this up? Why Bannon hasn't...why Kelly hasn't brought this up Why don't we use this information that we discussed before this even broke in the news in 2015? Authorities say as ISIS swept through major Syrian cities last year, it was able to seize government passport printing machines of a kind used by major governments around the world.

1:01:47 A Homeland Security Investigations bulletin sent to law enforcement in the last week and obtained by ABC News showed examples of suspect passports, and said ISIS may have boxes full of blank passport. The bulletin warned that individuals from Syria with passport issued in these ISIS-controlled cities or who had passport blanks may have traveled to the U.S.. Several of the fraudulent passports have already been discovered in Europe, most notably in the Paris attacks when authorities said one of the suicide bombers used this Ford Syrian passport to come to Europe as a refugee. Now there you go I'm giving give yourself a borderline...I forgot about that clip but then even though it's old

1:02:33 But I don't understand why they're not bringing that up. Comey testified that they knew this and it seemed like they had the capability, he said actually verbatim. Why? Why do we...I don't understand! I DO NOT UNDERSTAND! I don't think their THAT bright. Finally, the true answer as to why we should let all of this happen comes from Bill Kristol Of course Bill Crystal is a busy. What is it? He's a do con what's his what's this thing he was a part of project for New American Century He's a editor, one of the editors at one of the right-wing magazines. I can't think of the name. Well he is going to tell you really what is going on here and why we want immigrants. And when you look at the social justice warriors... He wants immigrants for maid service! Thank you, your'e right. Look, to be totally honest if things are so bad as you say with the white working class don't you want to get new Americans in who aren't gonna be... What? Stop!

1:03:33 What is the logic of that? Things are so bad these poor white American working class can't get work. So don't you think it want more immigrants? He's speaking from a new... How do you make that, how do you sell that without them guy who was interviewing you going You're nuts! I think he was speaking to an audience that wanted to hear this. I don't understand how you can say that because it... You know, you can only say that as an elitist saying well, you know shit's bad everyone wants 15 bucks an hour screw it let's bring in some new Americans New Americans! This is a good time. Yeah and it'll work cheap. Off the books

1:04:14 Look, to be totally honest if things are so bad as you say with the white working class don't you want to get new Americans in who aren't going to be? I'm serious. You can make a case that this is going on too long and this is too crazy probably and I hope this thing isn't being like videotaped or ever shown anywhere. Whatever tiny pathetic future I have it's gonna be totally collapsed. You can make a case that America has been great because every I think John Adams said this at the beginning, right? Basically if you're in a free society, capitalist society after two three four generations of hard work everyone becomes kind of decadent lazy spoiled whatever and then luckily you have these waves of people coming in from Italy and Ireland and Russia and now Mexico who really

1:04:57 want to work hard and really want to succeed and really want their kids to live better lives than them, that aren't sort of clipping coupons or hoping that they can hang on. And meanwhile you know we grew up with spoiled kids and so forth... So in that respect I don't know why this moment is that different. Oh my god! Old early 20th century. Douchebag! Unbelievable That's a clip of the day Thank you very much. I kind of expected it. That is unbelievable. Yeah, that somebody would have such disrespect for people who've been drummed out of work by the globalists who move their jobs overseas or to Mexico to say any of those things

1:05:42 You gotta put that in a permanent list. That's as good as the advertising clip. Isn't that amazing? Yes! Here is what interesting, so I'm in my little debate group of me and the liberal journalists around me This is what you guys do after your book club Yes, after we read first and then we bitch at each other. And so one of them goes off on that he says well the working class is the one who voted Trump in and they're a bunch of bigots and hateful this and that it was just like this guy is a progressive like a progressive, liberal progressive at the highest order way over there. Bernie plus and he is slamming the American working poor. Yeah yes I was stunned not even the working poor just the poor it's just taking us well that's and i said why don't we just kill the poor yeah especially whitey

1:06:43 Kill Whitey, kill the poor. That'll solve the problem! You got all this homeless encampment over here in Berkeley? You got that woman, the teacher? Go over there and shoot these people! I'm stunned by a lot of this. Stunned! Well, I'm stunned that he even said well this will probably be on the internet and... Yes! And they'll all be screwed yeah you got it Why did he say it? It must have- why didn't let's deconstruct that for a moment When you know that is going to become across as you being an incredible A-hole and you preface that then you still say it That is either huge hubris or I don't know what it is. I think there's a lot of stuff like that and this is part of, I think the split universe situation. Yes sir! People are saying...I'm not an officer people are saying screwball stuff that they if in fact I was doing this with this email exchange with these guys who said you listen to yourselves they can't seem to do it they can't seem to stop

1:07:47 And what did they say? They didn't say anything. They just backed up their old nonsense, but they think I'm nuts! What do you mean list ourselves?! The working poor suck! They stink! They're a bunch of bigots! They hate...they're xenophobes! Yeah. I would say the people that voted for Trump, half don't know-half of them all of them don't know what a xenophobe is or who cares!? Yeah, Chris that blew me away too. I just wow is that what you think? And he's even saying people clipping coupons they're so dumb these people clipping coupons bring in some new Americans Hold on to their Bible and rifles Where did this alternate universe story come from

1:08:29 Came from the alternate universe. And with that I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C, where the c stands for Club of Books and Stuff Dvorak! Well in the morning to you Mr Adam Curry In the morning to you Mr Seaboots on the ground feeding the air subs in water Also the dames and knights out there. Hey in the morning everybody in the chat room knowledgeinastream.com Hope you're enjoying seeing how the sausage is made today? And it seems like people are understanding a little bit better Like yeah You see a lot is going on here while you're making jokes all you comedians Thank you too Darth Kupon. Darth Kupon did the artwork for episode 902, of course that was morally obtuse his the artworkers this Sharia Bucks coffee which I thought we've both thought was a nice piece yeah yeah that way that came in this was like an evergreen it was around

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1:11:14 And it's all things I couldn't be nearly as privy to if it weren't for this show. Thanks again." Oh, thank you so much! My donation of $640 brings me over the amount needed for knighthood today but I want... ...$230 of the overlap to be put toward Chuck Kendrick's donation amount for his knighthood today as well. Uh-huh? That could... Now wait was there an issue with this? Well there was an issue with somebody But I don't know maybe that it's confusing people are moving money. Hold on hold on hold on It's like a Swiss bank me just yeah, this is no it says the next one Yeah This is why we can't have nice things but this is also why we it's very difficult We do not have a database of everybody. It's impossible

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1:13:41 So I thought we were going because it's you know, just as how is your accounting works a surprise day? Yeah. We're gonna make him a night on probation until we can get these numbers right now Anyway, thanks again. He's got a few things he wants say we can't constantly demonize each other if you still have soundbite Finish it off with shut up slave. They once he wants jobs karma Pelosi Trump yeah jobs Karma followed by Obama no-no-no and Obama We can't constantly demonize each other You're never getting that Can I go? Yeah, go

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1:25:05 fascinating thing that happened recently. You know about these international robberies and they finally caught the guy in Turkey, it's been going on since 2011, they've been robbing banks left and right? Are these the guys who also robbed Kim Kardashian? No no these guys this is a whole this was a fascinating story because there's a guy in Turkey well we just play this and you'll...it's just a great I think just a great cops-and-robbers story yeah what is it ATM thefts ah makes nothing but sense In Brooklyn today a Turkish man who used his computer to loot millions from cash machines Was sentenced to eight years. How did he do it? Here's Josh Elliott Is that an official news term to loot I mean why? That sounds a little odd. I think you can use it just me maybe I don't know just like to loot It's just you okay there you go. Elliot

1:25:58 35 year old air Sean fin de colo is the mastermind behind one of the most intricate bank robberies in history a crime so brazen He posed with the pile of cash on his chest Secret Service agent Scott Serafian says millions were taken from ATMs in New York City alone block after block ATM after ATM. They hit them all. They had it mapped out and they knew that Broadway had a large number of ATMs in close proximity to each other From Turkey, Findikoglu hacked into the computers of international banks stole account information and then sent ATM numbers to criminal gangs around the world he'd recruited online

1:26:42 He also removed all withdrawal limits from the accounts. Gang members seen here on surveillance cameras then went to work hitting machines from Tokyo, to London, to New York where Ken Primo is a secret service agent. They came and emptied these? Yes multiple transactions. Put your card in, put your pins in take out the limit, put your card Back in Turkey, Findikoglu was watching it all. He was watching so that he could tell who is withdrawing how much so that he'd know how much money he's supposed to get back The first hit happened in February of 2011 15 thousand transactions in 18 countries

1:27:23 Ten million dollars were stolen the second hit was December 2012 5,000 transactions in 20 countries five million dollars were withdrawn Then the big score February 19th 2013 can I just make a guess three? Congressional little over ten. Oh shit. I guess John is a low guest does this report last of the last take and Ed, do you think that possibly this story ends in cash is dangerous? They don't do that. But that's exactly where this is headed. Million dollars were withdrawn then the big score February 19th 2013 In a little over 10 hours Cruz made some 36 thousand transactions in 24 countries for a take of 40 million dollars in cash

1:28:20 The thieves sent most of the money back to Findicolu, but started showing off their take. Cash and expensive watches. Their end came at a mob movie staple – A New York diner where police arrested one gang member carrying almost $1 million dollars But Dave Beach who runs the Secret Service office in New York says most of the money has not been recovered Gone... just gone It was cash. It's untraceable." The operation was in fact so sophisticated that by that massive third theft, Scott, Findacolo had determined which ATMs carried the most cash of all and so instructed his crews to hit those first. An evil genius Josh Elliott thanks very much coming up next the flu vaccine

1:29:11 You better harvest that, because it's a war on cash! It's very dangerous to get cash from the ATM. Oh, it is so dangerous every time I go to an ATM machine I'm shaking and literally shaking and pushing the buttons and my hands are shaking and money comes out of shove it in my pocket as fast as I can run into the car because I know I have like 40 bucks on me Well part of the European action plan is restrictions on cash types of cash physical paper money flowing

1:29:58 And he is the former IMF chief, published a paper said that US should get rid of the $100 bill. Yes you know? It seems to me this guy in Turkey started this scam in 2011 and it's last year so you did over two-year period took him three years after that to catch him. You think if they had a little better security on all this cash and these machines or some guy can just Change all the parameters and pass out these pins and all the rest of it worldwide. Yeah, that would probably help And we can still have cash well what? Continues to blow me away is that the chip-and-pin cards in the United States the one I have

1:30:49 Uh, you just put it in. You don't even do a pin. You just put it in. Oh thank you done and then I usually have to sign so like its not swiping im sticking it in. I dont swipe I stick it in. Its completely insecure. Completely insecure. Banks dont give a crap the fraud is several billion dollars a year and they write if off they dont care. Just data its not even money. Yeah this was only what the total I think was like uh $60 million or $70 million. It's like, eh who cares? Let's find some other people to rob of their mortgages. That says, but it's the bank of America foreclosed on some guy didn't even have a bank of America mortgage. Yeah that story is great. Do you put me on the trail of these debugging of the Oval Office and The White House and all this stuff that's going on

1:31:45 Yes, and I think actually well. I have a little setup Setup from guy in Chichican who of course is the best reporter over there So she's kind of gets into not spy not bugs but more like spies and stuff and people who are leaking information And she categorized a little bit as gossip But these calls calls that the president had with Putin and with Trumbull in Australia, she kind of laughingly deconstructs some of that. The Trump administration is investigating who are these anonymous sources in the government who are leaking information to the press that often present him as incompetent? For instance, Trump had a conversation with the Russian President. The White House put out a very diplomatic readout to say quote

1:32:34 The call lasted approximately one hour and ranged in topics from mutual cooperation in defeating ISIS to efforts in working together to achieve more peace throughout the world, including Syria. All right. Reuters, in the meantime breaks with a story citing unnamed U.S. officials who said Trump put Putin on hold because he didn't know what the nuclear reduction agreement known as the New START treaty was whoever leaked that must have been in the room which means pretty close to the president by the way The White House press secretary later disputed that Reuters report saying that Trump was familiar with the nuclear treaty but was asking his team for an opinion on this subject

1:33:11 Someone also leaked to the media the transcripts of President Trump's calls with the leaders of Mexico and Australia. Trump said they were looking, quote-unquote, very, very hard for the leakers. He blamed, quote-unquote, Obama people. Thanks, Obama! There you go. This gets a little bit deeper when you hear this report, and this is from the original Money Honey Maria Bartiromo who was quite outraged at what happened here. And it's very underreported about the spies who were inside computer networks in our government. Three congressional IT, information technology, IT employees have been fired for accessing members' computer networks without permission. Maria's on the show knows more about this can you tell Philly Mail a bit? Here are their names Stuart let me tell you what the three people who were fired on Thursday Abid Imran and Jamal Awan they

1:34:10 They were barred from computer networks at the House of Representatives on Thursday because they accessed congressmen and congresspeople's computer networks unauthorized. At a minimum, they were fired. They haven't been arrested yet. At a minimum we know that they access computers unauthorized and they did so in foreign intelligence, foreign affairs, and intelligence committees okay? So they were getting very important information government information. They access these computers that is the least of it. There's also some talk that people are looking into what ties they have to terrorism, do they? Are they?

1:34:46 Are they impacted by the Muslim Brotherhood? Are they a part of the Muslim Brotherhood?" One of them has a criminal background. A couple questions here, why how is it possible that three brothers are hired, Muslim Brothers I'm just saying to work in Congress and deal with our most intelligent and sensitive information number one they were all making $160,000 dollars Why were they paid so much 22 years old one of the guys was 25 They're making $160,000, $161,000 and $165,000. And one of them has a criminal background. How does this happen? I hear what you're saying, these intelligence committees handle our terror strategies right? They got information on Benghazi too by the way. Yes they also work for many Democrats in these houses. Good God! They are thinking that maybe they could be also one of the people... One of the reasons that Debbie Washman Schultz's account was hacked.

1:35:45 There's so much more to come on this too. This is an incredible story I think it's amazing Now the one thing i learned, Is that these were definitely dudes not named Ben Oh they were just hack hacks? No they were dudes named ben only their names where not Ben Dudes named Abdul Now, this is very underreported. This story came up and we didn't get a lot of press because it was gonna look good for whatever Muslim community was involved in probably it's the Muslim Brotherhood because that was... Well, we know the Muslim Brotherhood is all throughout the State Department they have all kinds of security access absolutely Yeah so thats probably what I was Umma Abidin connected to the Muslim Brotherhood

1:32:34 The call lasted approximately one hour and ranged in topics from mutual cooperation in defeating ISIS to efforts in working together to achieve more peace throughout the world, including Syria. All right. Reuters, in the meantime breaks with a story citing unnamed U.S. officials who said Trump put Putin on hold because he didn't know what the nuclear reduction agreement known as the New START treaty was whoever leaked that must have been in the room which means pretty close to the president by the way The White House press secretary later disputed that Reuters report saying that Trump was familiar with the nuclear treaty but was asking his team for an opinion on this subject

1:33:11 Someone also leaked to the media the transcripts of President Trump's calls with the leaders of Mexico and Australia. Trump said they were looking, quote-unquote, very, very hard for the leakers. He blamed, quote-unquote, Obama people. Thanks, Obama! There you go. This gets a little bit deeper when you hear this report, and this is from the original Money Honey Maria Bartiromo who was quite outraged at what happened here. And it's very underreported about the spies who were inside computer networks in our government. Three congressional IT, information technology, IT employees have been fired for accessing members' computer networks without permission. Maria's on the show knows more about this can you tell Philly Mail a bit? Here are their names Stuart let me tell you what the three people who were fired on Thursday Abid Imran and Jamal Awan they

1:34:10 They were barred from computer networks at the House of Representatives on Thursday because they accessed congressmen and congresspeople's computer networks unauthorized. At a minimum, they were fired. They haven't been arrested yet. At a minimum we know that they access computers unauthorized and they did so in foreign intelligence, foreign affairs, and intelligence committees okay? So they were getting very important information government information. They access these computers that is the least of it. There's also some talk that people are looking into what ties they have to terrorism, do they? Are they?

1:34:46 Are they impacted by the Muslim Brotherhood? Are they a part of the Muslim Brotherhood?" One of them has a criminal background. A couple questions here, why how is it possible that three brothers are hired, Muslim Brothers I'm just saying to work in Congress and deal with our most intelligent and sensitive information number one they were all making $160,000 dollars Why were they paid so much 22 years old one of the guys was 25 They're making $160,000, $161,000 and $165,000. And one of them has a criminal background. How does this happen? I hear what you're saying, these intelligence committees handle our terror strategies right? They got information on Benghazi too by the way. Yes they also work for many Democrats in these houses. Good God! They are thinking that maybe they could be also one of the people... One of the reasons that Debbie Washman Schultz's account was hacked.

1:35:45 There's so much more to come on this too. This is an incredible story I think it's amazing Now the one thing i learned, Is that these were definitely dudes not named Ben Oh they were just hack hacks? No they were dudes named ben only their names where not Ben Dudes named Abdul Now, this is very underreported. This story came up and we didn't get a lot of press because it was gonna look good for whatever Muslim community was involved in probably it's the Muslim Brotherhood because that was... Well, we know the Muslim Brotherhood is all throughout the State Department they have all kinds of security access absolutely Yeah so thats probably what I was Umma Abidin connected to the Muslim Brotherhood

1:36:28 And so this kind of piggybacks on a couple of stories that went in the New York Times, which is again trying to demean Trump with these crazy stories about the guys that work in the White House now don't know where the light switches are and they're bumbling around. They can't find the lights, so they're working in the dark because I guess there's too stupid you know? There's a bunch of people who actually work at the White House as maids and butlers. Yeah! And I guess it's too difficult to ask them, maybe it's beneath them to actually ask somebody where the light switches are hidden. I guess is too hard because these guys are so stupid, Trumpers are so stupid they can't even ask somebody and apparently can find doors as a bunch of this you know cause the way this design has hidden doors have to push on pop open that kind of door. Why don't they have Bill Kristol find some new Americans for them?

1:37:20 Well, they apparently need to find someone but well on that same topic. Here is David Brooks again claiming about the same thing that the Trump White House is a bunch of bumbling idiots I can't find the doorknobs and they can't find the light switches and there's stumbling all over each other but if you listen carefully what he has to say It's kind of funny. A sense of lack of thoughtfulness in the administration on an enormously serious issue David, how do you see it? Well first on that last clip of Trump on the plane You know his staff is briefing reporters in some of a chaotic manner in just last few minutes Some people saying oh they're gonna just take it to Supreme Court They're gonna rewrite it and

1:38:04 The two different briefings are contradicting each other and that's something of the times reporters have been Talking about and tweeting about publicly which is some of the White House staff is in a high state of misery Because of the general lack of chaos larger issue of the travel ban high state of chaos. Mmm nice She didn't hear that right did you I didn't know okay another little bit bit of tomfoolery, although it may be just a slip up which I have to assume. He says they're in a state of misery because of lack of chaos. Let me listen well first on that last clip of Trump on the plane you know his staff is briefing reporters in some of the chaotic manner in the last just last few minutes people saying oh they're gonna just take it to Supreme Court they're gonna rewrite it and

1:38:50 the two different uh... briefings are contradicting each other and that's something of a times reporters have been uh... talking about uh... tweeting publicly which is some of the white house staff is in a high state of misery because it's an elective chaos on larger so man alright bend over you got it That was good. Now the other thing he mentioned in there, he says... I mean these guys don't understand why they can't get two people that kind of can argue with each other instead of agree that Trump's an idiot Supreme says the Supreme Court, they're gonna send it back to the Supreme Court and make a do it that way. Or they're going to rewrite the immigration control executive order which he says is contradictory and confusing but that's not contradictory those are two alternatives

1:39:40 The contradictory is when you tell somebody, we're gonna take this to the Supreme Court. No, we're not going to take it to the Supreme Court as both statements. Well if you say something or we are going do this that's not contradictory so he isn't even using his words right. This guy is a writer. He wrote I think he wrote a column about this And his general consensus was, you know it's really not good what we're doing because this will go to the Supreme Court. the White House is waiting for the confirmation of the final Supreme Court justice before they take it to the Supreme Court. Because I think on constitutional grounds, obviously it's constitutional and then this is what this guy was saying. It's like well we don't really want to go all the way at the Supreme Court but I think maybe that Trump administration pushing us a little bit. Yeah the whole thing would be expired by the time... But how about this? This came to me last night in

1:40:42 Maybe it's time for another cycle event. So, so it's either these guys wanted to go to the Supreme Court or we could have a cycle event and that means It would happen in the next week because that would be timing of it. I'm guessing no Okay Mm-kay mm-kay There was a Flynn hit piece that was done on CBS which is brought back to the same topic. He chatted with some guy in Russia day before he took office and so he's now a violator of the Logan Act, which we had a clip from. We had that clip from some insider who says it's a bunch of bullcrap

1:41:24 But CBS did a huge hit piece if you want to play that. Okay, well Mr Trump's national security advisor retired General Michael Flynn is under investigation tonight for contacts that he had with Russia's ambassador to the United States That sounds like normal diplomacy but these conversations came before the inauguration so... Hold on! Stop He's under investigation by whom? Yeah, he doesn't say. Would you put that in the story? I would say under investigation by the FBI which would be the appropriate agency maybe just a department of justice now i would have mentioned that yeah i think i would have okay but you know that's why i'm not running CBS these conversations came before the inauguration so one question is whether Flynn violated a 200 year old law

1:42:15 that forbids private citizens from negotiating with foreign governments Jeff Begay's well wouldn't I can mention a couple of people who negotiate with foreign governments yeah they do it all the time Jesse Jackson you know anybody you want about this what They say Flynn is talking about whatever he's talking about. It wasn't in negotiation anyway, you can't negotiate- What was he negotiating? Yeah what's he negotiating about? Yeah. Aboot! From negotiating with foreign governments Jeff Begays is following this. Thank You Jeff In late December investigators say retired General Michael Flynn discussed US sanctions against Russia in a phone call with Ambassador Sergey Kislyak

1:43:00 A law enforcement source tells CBS News that the FBI and other intelligence agencies gathered information through on... And other intelligence agencies. No, he says they got the information! He never said they're doing the investigation. Let me hear it again Law enforcement source tells CBS News that the FBI and other intelligence agencies gathered the information. Ah, you're right. It's an ongoing- This is just implications! He starts off with law enforcement sources... I'm so sick of this. When did this become okay? The way I didn't go to J school, I didn't go to gay school. When i grew up it was if you are going to do a story you have to get someone who's gonna go on the record and say yeah this is what I said when did that become okay to just not do it

1:43:44 It's never really been okay, but they do it all the time because well and their argument is well You know people won't talk to us if they get cited that means are either talking through unofficial channels or it's all bullcrap Or there's all got an agenda which is what I believe is the case so law enforcement Sources tell us that yeah And then he mentions FBI and somebody else in probably NSA a if the law enforcement source was the FBI but that's not what he says. Because it is not. Bullshit! Exactly. Through ongoing electronic surveillance of Russian officials and suspected spies, the timing at the call raised eyebrows. The Obama administration had just imposed new sanctions on Russia and expelled 35 diplomats because of the Kremlin's alleged meddling in the US election. Is that good? But Russian President Vladimir Putin

1:44:35 Putin did not retaliate, something President-elect Trump tweeted was very smart. The Trump administration has acknowledged Flynn's phone calls with the Russian ambassador but had denied that sanctions were discussed Vice President Mike Pence appeared on Face the Nation last month. It was strictly coincidental that they had a conversation they did not discuss anything having to do with the United States decision to expel diplomats or impose a censure against Russia. Today, a source close to Mr Pence stressed that the vice president's statement was based on what General Flynn personally told him

1:45:15 At the White House today, the two briefly shook hands before a press conference. Flynn has been a paid consultant for Russia Today. The cable channel the Obama administration labeled a propaganda arm of the Kremlin He also sat next to Putin at a gala in 2015 It's the same story. A White House official tells CBS News General Flynn does not recall and cannot be 100% certain whether sanctions were discussed on that call Scott aboard Air Force One today President Trump said he had not seen the stories about his national security advisor But he said he would look into it Jeff Pagez, thanks

1:45:53 Wow. Okay, wow now this is a hit piece classic same story though is the whole story they're bringing it back They're making it look like this guy's a big pro Russia guy And they got to stop that while we can because we've got an arms industry to support We gotta make sure they stay in business and we can't do that if we actually have peace so The way I was looking at those trying to analyze his story, and I realized one of the things going on is And by the way, even if he discussed sanctions. He said that you guys are gonna get... Here I am, I'll be Flynn You're gonna get.. By the way you guys are going to have some sanctions thrown against ya Don't worry about it when we get in office things will be different

1:46:30 Is that negotiating? I don't think so. No, that's just like being a friendly guy Well didn't we heard President Obama negotiate with Medvedev on an open mic He said and tell tell Vlad there It's when I'm reelected live more time Yeah But he was but he wasn't a private citizen no K for him to know okay now point well I negotiate the one Let's go back to this The CIA, I believe hates Flynn. Yes oh yes we know this i know who hates Flynn Uncle Don hates him okay they hate Flynn he's a hard ass he's the guy that these guys don't like hate him uh so there this is just that they were trying to get them and this we're dealing with CBS doing this hit piece CBS is CIA broadcasting system yeah yep this is bullcrap yep

1:47:24 He's gonna have to expect more of the same. Well, if we just stay with Russia for a moment this story that came out about well actually I have the Fox and Friends story with Corey Lewandowski about Snowden the gift from Vladimir to Donald Edward Snowden according to reports could be being handed over by Vladimir Putin to President Trump as a gift first of all what's the white house response this we haven't heard from the white house on this story yet you know i haven't heard if you know this is something that white house has engaged and i can't imagine it has been but you know in this is a gift that nobody wants as the problem so now i think he's very perfectly fine justin sitting where he is right now and i don't think at the present has made any overtures either publicly or privately about any desire to bring edward snowden back united states at all and it's a tweet from edwards stone last night that we had to put up on the screen where he kind of responds to this news these rumors this

1:48:18 He says, finally irrefutable evidence that I never cooperated with Russian intel. No country trades away spies as the rest would fear their next." So President Trump calls him a traitor. Edward Snowden says, I'm not and this proves I'm not. Do you think the president would relish the ability to put a guy like this on trial? Look, my guess is if the Russians want to send him back here and the president wants to put him in Leavenworth for the next 150 years maybe it's something that he has an interest in doing. And you know that's probably the place where Edward Snowden belongs but I don't think this is truly the priority of this administration right now Here's one thing I do not understand about with the Snowden tweet countries exchange spies all the time

1:48:59 Yes. What is he talking about? I guess it's the other way around, that would mean he would be a spy for the US but... Is this story even true where did this come from? This came from guess who Mike Morrell! Ah okay Now Mike Morrell supposedly talked to somebody in Russia which sounds to me like he's violating the Logan Act He's negotiating with enemy and as a private citizen Yeah Hmm Well there's a lot of... He brings that into the picture The Russia hate is back into the mainstream Into the biggest show in the United States, which I have mmm. I can't say never but I've never watched a full episode for sure That would be the number one hit show The Bachelor because if you want to influence somebody You know you go to The View and you go to The Bachelor And that's how we do it here in the United States of Gitmo Nation Yeah So the dummies gonna get their dose so one of the girls is a Russian she immigrated from Russia

1:49:54 And she's sitting down with the bachelor. This is rich and here's her subs here's her sob story Okay, well what kind of town was it I guess city was in a small house small very small going up I didn't really have much I lived with my mom. My half-sister, she lived with my dad. So was it just you and your mom for a while? As far as I know... My mom wasn't around much to begin with but one day she said don't eat anything. Um..I'm going to bring some food back but i'm going to go out for the day It was really exciting to hear that because we didn't have any food necessarily growing up. I wish I could remember more but I remember the cupboards being empty and I remember eating lipstick

1:50:37 It didn't taste good by any means. I don't know if you could hear that, she says we had no food the cupboards were bare and i remember eating lipstick. Oh brother! Eating lipstick? Why did the mom say don't eat anything it'll be back in a day if they have nothing to eat in the first place now sounds like it's redundant Now of course if you are poor in Russia and you're eating lipstick You're gonna be a hooker. That's right, just become a hooker! It's unbelievable. Yeah, it's unbelievable The fact that they let that go is even crazier Hey I want to ask you Actually, I sent you the article and I thought this would be an apropos time to discuss it And this came up on a financial website That I had not heard of before but now that I look at it They have some pretty good news really about stocks and stuff like that and they did an investigation with the

1:51:52 with the original Alexa, which I didn't know. Alexa dot com we used to use that all the time in the early days because you could look at your ranking so you could see how you were doing and where your traffic was coming from. It was random but yes you could see it at least get an inkling And it is now owned by Amazon which makes sense of course they have...they probably bought just for the name and let those boys have a little silly website Some investing and I never put a lot of weight into the Alexa calm rankings and stuff like that But there was you know, though you could get some data from it. I think you could get useful data Yes, well you can't really do it anymore now. I need an account they used to be just free so what

1:52:36 What has come to light is that the New York Times, The Guardian and my favorite... The Wapo! The Wapo. Washington Post That after the election, of course everyone had a problem. You know they had their numbers were spiking it was fantastic and then all of a sudden it starts to go down all they said we got A lot of new subscribers which I believed to be true And if you look at the stats up to 58% Across the board of these publications had traffic coming in from China as of December

1:53:21 Yeah, I wanted to knew when all these new subscribers came in coincidentally. Yes now I just want to mention my experience with this and I'm gonna turn it over for you One of the things one of the reasons why I left my own company is because this was what was going on in Silicon Valley And it was the only way to really make The business model work and I didn't like it and that changed later But if I did not like it the idea is view by traffic and you buy it at a CPM, the cost per thousand of about $5. About five, six, seven, eight nine years ago and um... You then take that traffic and you sell the ad spots to an ad network who's going to pay you $7 and you take the arbitrage in the middle two dollars and with that you create some crappy content And uh so your basically stealing because people are not.. It's fake traffic its not real

1:54:14 And it appears that this is, and these are American companies by the way. You call an American company and they take care of it however they take care... They tend to be in Florida by the way most times Yes yes thats true. And they have names like Monopoly or was it? Interesting little names If this is true if this is true I would say this is very very bad for the mainstream print press Well no I'd say its bad for online internet advertisers I don't know, the mainstream print press. It would impact them as much... Of course it does! They need the ads are you kidding me? Yeah but they're not gonna stop getting ads for the print, its the online guys that won't get ads because thats where its all phonied up. Okay im sorry yes but their future is clearly online and their paper products are clearly not the future

1:55:05 Exactly, that's true and they know it. And it is a serious problem because they may have gotten more subscriptions to the newspaper but these hits that are coming in from China are definitely not subscriptions and I think it just boosted their numbers of page views but Those numbers didn't boost their subscription. They probably picked up a few more subscriptions because these guys, they're all three of these operations say I don't know about the Guardian but I know WAPO does the same thing which is you've seen your two articles this month and then they give you a warning- If you really like great journalism and clearly you do Yeah just clear your cookies and use different IP address and you're good but I think this is a scandal

1:55:52 And I brought this up with the journalists. Thank you, I was just about to ask that. Using Lexa data is no good! Uh-huh... and some other decided some other piece of crap thing i never heard of uh yeah this is what's good this is what they have to do somebody thought it was a good idea And then somebody, and then they got busted. Somebody did the simple Alexa thing and said what is this? This is nonsense you can't have over 50% of your traffic coming from China it's not even legal to look at The New York Times in China so how are all these numbers coming in from China? China has banned The New York Times this makes no sense Well, what's the follow-up gonna be? I mean who checks the news people? Somebody is going to have to blow this out and get these advertisers to take a look at this. These guys...these advertisers are being suckered! Duped! Duped, duped, duped I tell you

1:56:44 By the way, that mechanism you're talking about creating all these bots and coming in from every which way to make your numbers look good. They actually can program these bots to go do a couple of clicks! Oh yeah? It's all part of a script. They come on your site... Mouse movements John, mouse movements everything. Everything you need is programmed. Yeah they got the whole thing and click and so if you see it looks like a real person but it's a robot And then I gotta buy any products It's a huge scandal, the whole internet. This backs you up in your thesis that internet advertising is bogus because they can't count it. And not only can you not count it there is no artificial supply shortage of... You know, you can't short the supply because you could make as much supply as you want The inventory is endless so then numbers have to drift down to zero eventually or close to zero

1:57:39 And this is happening every single before a board meeting in Silicon Valley. Go go watch Silicon Valley! They did the same thing, they did it on remember that? No. On Silicone Valley they were in trouble and then at a board meeting and then their thing wasn't working and then they bought some traffic And all of a sudden this shit was working and then they got interest, and then you know the deal came together. This is the scam that is going on continuously! Yes it is a scam... And I screwed up big time myself. I did something I can't believe I did it. What? I was like Wednesday, I got an email or whatever. EEN van Dag which is a very respectable news show on the Dutch state-owned television news... big news program, big one! Big ratings, big one and they were doing it piece on podcasting so they said hey you know when you're the inventor love to have you on okay I can do this Friday and then I spent time setting it all up I had my little earbud in so wouldn't be sitting there with cans but they want to see a little bit of my microphone and set the whole thing

1:58:43 and do 25 minutes of interview in total, you know probably talking an hour all together. And I see this piece so it's like they're following some guy who is recording a podcast in the lunch room and then some English consultant who says, yes just very easy to make podcasts...and then I come on 15 seconds with shit sound It's they had screwed something up. So I And it was some not your fault and with some non sequitur and they didn't even said they said he was one of the guys early on in podcasting, I just went what oh my god! I did it again. I let myself be fooled thinking it would be great and I completely forgot that's not how the mainstream works Oh Yeah, I'm glad you like it. You didn't tell me this story. It's funny

1:59:43 I did it again. Remember after the Michael Jackson hang up from MSNBC? And then, uh, I think it was a Tom Brokjaw had said to go interview Adam Curry and we went into it. Hey Tom Brokjaw wants you into wants to interview you for this piece is very specific and I was on for seven seconds. Do you remember that? I waited a whole day, did two hours of interview Yeah, I always expect you're gonna get 15 seconds if you get that much. Unless you're the news guy! Unless you're the guy making the news and they got ya cornered then your on a 24 hour show or something where they just haranguing you. I was disappointed in myself. I can't believe i did it again. I'm going to show my salute by donating to No Agenda Imagine all of people who could do that Oh yeah, That'd be fab On NO AGENDA

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2:01:21 On the boob donation. He's donating because of the place about the volags and yeah, it was a good report. He liked the Volag report huh? The Volag Report is a gem! It's right up there with the Pipeline Report I think it's Vo-log not Volag. It's Volog. I like Volag Okay, Volag it is Here comes the Volag We are the Volag Wait you want to do that right or you just wanna mess around and be like a sad frog? Okay we'll do it right ready? No hold on You good? NO

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2:02:46 No, there's no Casey why? No I think you someone is writing it wrong in the spreadsheet. Well, I think that's you right now Yeah, I think my mother because Adam or an atom erogist cut some pastes yeah I think it'll be kilo 9 charlie yankee Mike knows Casey nine could be could be Kilo Charlie 9 yeah Whatever say 73s 73 stay him catch on the bands. I'll catch you on the waterfall. That's our digital Digital version the waterfall now when you're doing digital ham radio stuff then it's just computers broadcasting and other computers Receiving it, but you on your screen You have a waterfall so you can see all the frequencies and all the different cells And looks like a waterfall is just continuously streams down as well. We say on the waterfall

2:03:35 Sounds pretty. Yes as we drift down quickly, you know I have a lot of darn here burn hard Sony 55 And then the rest of these people are simple $50 donors at least we have a few and We do have a note that want to read Heather Lata 50 parts unknown Jesse Nolet in Arlington Texas Richard Gardiner, Sir Richard I believe $50. Michael Vickland in Sweden? Is this Beaumont Proudfoot? It looks like but there's no O. Anyway Beaumont Proudfoot in Halliday's Point New South Wales David Fearon 50. Aiki Odagawa in USA but could be anywhere we have a birthday call out for him

2:04:32 Once a big birthday five-o to Dave Fieron from Baltimore. Yes, I got that's here on that Otagoa. Yeah, yeah, okay? Oh the guy was next Beth Bradshaw parts unknown Kirsten Gleb who comes in via the pop money thing which was described in a newsletter and great detail yes, yes Cassidy Eastwood from Oklahoma City and finally Kyle Oh, I'm sorry. Cassidy's the one who sent a note in. I have to read that note. Let me read the note after crediting Kyle Meyer in Atlanta Georgia. No, Cassidy sent a cute little notice as a check. It doesn't have hearts over the eyes?

2:05:19 Let's look. No, let's look. How is possible? Dear John and Adam my husband hit me in the mouth almost two years ago I love him for it we've been married for almost four years and your show has brought us even closer together you keep us sane Wow Wow, I'm happy to hear this. This is great! Yeah, I thought so too. Relationship makers... Yes that's what we do yes We have made one donation in the past but we know we owe you so much This $50 donation is a step in the right direction and the first of many, I hope As a public school teacher in Oklahoma which has the lowest pay for teachers in the United States my future seems shaky I teach French as an elective

2:06:10 Thank you both, so it's a high school teacher I'm guessing. Thank you both for all you do which must be really interesting with our thinking. opposition for our by any means necessary girl I have propagated the formula to friends and family and a handful of Them have become listeners and a few of them donors Thanks again for all you do. You keep me away from you keep me away from insanity Cassie Cassidy nice nice That was our night. So that concludes our list of well-wishers and producers for show 903, the lower end I want to thank them all and the people that contributed lesser amounts And hopefully you can pick this up for next Thursday Except we got no promotion so don't want to tell ya We do have President's Day today I believe Is that today or tomorrow? I dunno it is today The Grammys are tonight No no its Lincoln's birthday today I think Oh

2:07:13 President's Day is next week. We can't celebrate a Republican's birthday, that'd be no good. Yeah And of course tonight we have the Grammys, maybe I'll have a Illuminati report. You never know what will happen. I hope so! I can't stand watching these shows anymore and there's again they've been the Grammy producer says they're going to encourage political conversation Is that at the Grammys or the Oscars? Or both? No! Oh jeez... Grammys! This just ran as a story yesterday oh yeah you want to go up there and butt-slam Trump? You're welcome Well, that should be fun then. It'll be fun. I'll be show prep would just call it show prep show materials

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2:10:36 I told you. So let's, just as a little entremont, I got a good one? A good clip? Yes! This is an actress on the Larry King show on RT. She's Maria Mara Turney she's in The Affair and you've seen her many times she's been around long time ago And this is the kind of people that you always definitely want to listen to when they have political opinions Something you wish you were better at Swimming Something you longed to believe to be true but realized wasn't that I could get away with parking my car on Charles Street between Bleeker and Hudson because i thought I wouldn't get any tickets there but instead they repossess your car. They repossessed your car? What is it, repo man did she not pay the bill? Yeah she's used to again misspoke she did see they towed her car to her. Repossessed now she's an idiot

2:11:30 Between bleaker and Hudson because I thought, I wouldn't get any tickets there but instead they repossess your car That's no joke Even though your father was on the count. No it was here in New York Charles Street in New York We're in LA oh we're in LA We're in LA. Tell me something people don't know about you we're in LA I forgot where it was that is really crazy okay, I just got in last night sorry what? Wow! I violated the law and I can't believe I got to repossess nice well here's my entrement

2:12:13 As I prefaced in the beginning of the program, I'm doing some archival work. I want to collect our stories you have been particular great stories and it's nice if we can kind of put them together now and you had told the story about the proper way to eat nuts on the show on the last show yes yes yeah and of course um... You've said this one before so i decide im gonna archive it So Im just going to archive it and put it on our album The nut story? Yeah, yeah. Here it is just so you can listen to it again Just go for John tell us your peeve about the fisting method of eating snacks on an airplane I see this on the airplane and its very annoying And I think it will result in fights breaking out because they're just so annoying to watch Guy takes his bag of peanuts Throws a pile into his palm of his hand and then he makes a fist around the nuts

2:13:08 And then he shakes his fist to try to bring a nut to the little hole. Stop! And then throws a nut in his mouth from his fists Then he does it again, he shakes and throws and shakes and throws It is annoying as hell to watch There you go So you actually produced that I did this one i did so your this is again A use of your time that is not necessarily a good use of your time. But it's okay if you want to just sit there and ridicule me for my stories. I'm not ridiculing, i'm making you a legend! What are you talking about? I could have told the story dirtier... Like that wasn't bad enough?! Okay let's go to this story here's a good local story this was a classic Girl Scout Robb This is a local story

2:14:07 I hate it when that happens. Police just released a sketch of a man they say robbed a Girl Scout and her mother at gunpoint Union City police described the suspect as an African-American teen about 5'5 thin build and wearing dark clothing They say he was wearing a hood when he approached the cookie table The responding police officers donated their own money to cover the loss from that theft How low can you go? That's pretty damn low That's very low That's very, very low. The worst... I'm a little confused because in the newsletter you talked about how crazy the Bill Maher show was and i was like okay you're gonna have clips! No, I figured you were always getting clips from the Bill Maher Show so I didn't get any. Oh my god!! I watched the whole thing and thought this is going to be fantastic John will have a great report. And then- I found the whole thing SO annoying that I wasn't going to clip it

2:15:07 There were some funny bits in there man. That's interesting well I did allow we can do it on the next show if you want to go through it pulled one clip which I thought was interesting yeah, just one cuz I figured out have one that you would not have pulled and Al Franken And Bill Maher's interviewing Al Franken, who was pretty funny. The guy does have he has a very funny way of speaking and he knows how to deliver a punchline pretty well but a question came up which he immediately circumvented and turned into something else I'll remind you why Donald Trump said in this meeting thousands of people

2:15:47 were brought in on buses from neighboring Massachusetts to illegally vote in New Hampshire. So once again, the president is seeing multitudes that no one else sees And it said there was an awkward silence. An awkward silence, and there were six Democratic senators in the room I would hope that you if you are one of those senators You wouldn't have just been awkwardly silent and you would have said no excuse me Mr President That didn't happen. I would've said something like that You would have. I would've said, oh come on! Just stop it. The 3-5 million illegal people didn't show up and vote for Hillary. It didn't happen and just stop doing that. So you notice how he moves away from the bust in...

2:16:37 immigrants voting illegally across state lines. And I'll play this clip again to remind you why he is never going to broach that instead, he said, oh no three to five immediately goes off to the big numbers and something else here's why there are anecdotes out there. There are examples of voter fraud 10 15 20 different votes here or there in this case as much about a thousand but if they're any example that you know in which fraudulent voting, particularly with illegal immigrants turned an election result. In 2008, Al Franken after six months of court battles was declared the victor in the Minnesota Senate race by 314 votes. After he was seated it was discovered there were 1200 felons who had illegally voted in that election A survey was done by Fox News and Minneapolis going out interviewing a whole bunch of those people 90% said they voted for Franken It turned out al Franken was the 60th vote poll

2:17:36 There you go. Yes, indeed. A classic. Indeedy. Hey, you want to do the list? The list! I got the list. What list? The list that we never do The list right we get stuff to talk about yes on the list okay Yeah, let's do some of the things on the list stop. We need a jingle for the list Exactly it's time for There you go

2:16:37 immigrants voting illegally across state lines. And I'll play this clip again to remind you why he is never going to broach that instead, he said, oh no three to five immediately goes off to the big numbers and something else here's why there are anecdotes out there. There are examples of voter fraud 10 15 20 different votes here or there in this case as much about a thousand but if they're any example that you know in which fraudulent voting, particularly with illegal immigrants turned an election result. In 2008, Al Franken after six months of court battles was declared the victor in the Minnesota Senate race by 314 votes. After he was seated it was discovered there were 1200 felons who had illegally voted in that election A survey was done by Fox News and Minneapolis going out interviewing a whole bunch of those people 90% said they voted for Franken It turned out al Franken was the 60th vote poll

2:17:36 There you go. Yes, indeed. A classic. Indeedy. Hey, you want to do the list? The list! I got the list. What list? The list that we never do The list right we get stuff to talk about yes on the list okay Yeah, let's do some of the things on the list stop. We need a jingle for the list Exactly it's time for There you go

2:18:18 The list is... Topics that we do after the show, I'll explain. Topics after the show, oh we forgot to talk about this, so we make a list and then never talk about it! We're doing the list today John, we're doing the list The topic on the list is a number of this topics fall in the same heading of Millennials and I will start with Your experience because of course you have a millennial line in the family as do. I With three millennials in the family yes, well I have three millennials in my family And they're not eating dinner all the time with you often often enough All right let's start with ultrasounds

2:19:03 Yes, the thing is that millennials now don't want to get a lot of ultrasounds because there's some indication that too many ultrasounds and some of these people are just having ultrasound, ultrasound, ultrasound. They're just doing it all the time and they bring in a crowd and they got audiences with people clapping and jumping up and down then they do the ultrasound It may have something to do with having autism You know, that's so much crazier than vaccines Okay, ultrasounds. You know you're zapping the kid with a bunch of high frequency sound that goes right through the gut and it shows you I mean...I remember when i was a kid there we go everybody used to have fluoroscopes Oh! Haven't heard that term in a long time

2:19:47 So you'd go in to get your shoes fitted at the shoe store and they had this big giant thing, it was a fluoroscope. And you stick your feet in this thing and then you look down on the through like a binocular top and you look down there and see your feet in there and see the nails of the shoes and how well your foot fit into those shoes specifically even though you should be able to use with your toes but no so you can see how good the shoe fit or didn't fit looking through the fluoroscope. So you would do this occasionally and it can be good for ya, and that same thing with these ultrasounds like you can see right through the person so I'm buying that one. But the millennials are okay going through the naked body scanner? That's okay?

2:20:36 My son? No, your daughter. They will not go through that thing they're part of the no agenda community when it comes to this but my son in particular I always go with oh my arm... I can't lift my arms above my head Okay you over here and it's no big deal he opts out very good and I say well you opted out now you can get through this thing without having to opt out He says if you opt-out it becomes a number and a stat that has some importance So you always opt out so you can become part of the stats. Ha ha, well I like that! Yeah and he insists on opting out so he can become part of the stats and he's never more than one minute behind anybody else they yopped him out, wanded him, stick a probe at him, poke him, swab his hands... Swab his hands, ya know? So reminder for those who are relatively new to the program

2:21:31 If you want to go through the magnetometer, and of course you will. You know it's an opt-out... ...You don't have to say.. you don't have to get into conversation with these people like I don't like you or hate you... ...The naked beagle they'll say oh you get more radiation from a banana! No all you need to do is say hey I can't lift my arms above my head and they're going Oh, I'm sorry okay Go over here sometimes you get too much quicker when you say that Yes, sometimes but not always. Recently not so much. But now you noticed a split divide within the Millennials this I have not seen... Yes the Millennials also say there's a whole bunch of there was a divide within the Millennials regarding a lot of political divides and it has to do with

2:22:12 Hillary Trump, Bernie and it's like getting really bad. People are trying not to get into political discussions but it was noticed at one of the tables that according to Jesse and then everybody confirmed it nodding their heads yeah yeah yeah yeah The Millennials especially the women are all taking up smoking again Huh? Yeah Why They're all taking up, that's what I said. What happened to vaping? Wasn't that their thing? No no no vaping is out. Yeah I've noticed this. Vaping is passe. Yeah I think so too. Went too many vapes blew up and burnt some guy. I can move my fave vape! So they...they uh... They're taking up smoking cigarettes again. Geez. Apparently you see a bunch of millennials smoking Is there a millennial brand like Kool

2:23:08 K O L. I think it's American something, American spirits. Uh, I think that's one of them. Oh God. Hello 1980. Oh geez. Well here's what I've noticed with millennials and this is very disturbing um, and it typically happens when you're not having, not getting great service in a restaurant or somewhere. It'd be on. I'll say Hey, you know that's not, this really happened to me as like, you know, that's not really cool. Um, just like that, you know? Like yeah, I'm a little disappointed and the millennial go Especially if I say it like under my breath, I can say something like look at her. Oh, I think you heard it! You can't do that! Very very upset yeah Your daughter does this? I think a lot of Millennials do women. Just women and I could be millennial. I've never heard of millennia's we call them millennias

2:24:04 I'm in the car driving someplace, she's in the passenger seat and window open or closed doesn't make any difference. Usually it's open some big... I'll do some...I'd make comments about things guy walking by this on the crosswalk he's going through is almost over on the other curb and I'm saying man that guy was fat! Yeah in the car in the privacy of your own car In the free eye And she goes shh shh shh He's gonna hear you So what if he hears me? Even if he does, he can't hear me for one thing. I'm in the car but she gets all worked up if I make snide remarks about people on the street. Yeah isn't that interesting? I find it very unusual yeah I mean I think there's maybe this has to do with a lack of teaching physics in high school

2:24:53 The sound maybe travels in some ways that the natural universe doesn't allow it. What you're doing is actually, you are triggering the millennial at that moment and I've thought about this...the triggering is we've talked about this, the over socialization that you are not even allowed to have any bad thoughts about anybody and you John put a bad thought into the millennials brain And that's what... and they go haywire. So maybe, I'm gonna try this, I wanna see if i can trigger just by randomly saying look at that fat bitch. No, I wouldn't even say it, she's pretty fat! Let's see what happens. But I think its a trigger mechanism and could be used very effectively if done properly. Hmmmm, I don't know to what end? Well, one more thing we had on our note the 25th amendment

2:25:50 Oh, yeah. Well that kind of fell by the wayside I thought it was gonna catch on as a meme No now they want to get rid of the Ninth Amendment is what I'm hearing it's changed What's the ninth amendment? The ninth amendment I wanna read it verbatim Let's see... The 25th Amendment has to do with impeachment and here's another thing that I said That's been replaced by the following meme When the, and I should mention this because they did want to talk about this. The 25th Amendment refers to how to get rid of the president so So the Democrats are saying we've got to bear down and so in 2018 if we can take the house back tonight taking a house back but they take the Senate back They think because there's so many Republicans that don't like Trump They think they can get him impeached

2:26:48 Although, I don't think they know what impeach means or how you go about it. You have to do a criminal act but they think they can get him impeached for some minor thing and then he will get ousted and in 2018 he'll be gone so he only has two years that's all we have to worry about Trump is for two years they're gonna impeach him yes Yeah, Rob Reiner's one of these guys. Yeah yeah well let me just read the text. Not the ninth okay? So it is all about in case removal of president from office or vice president... It's just explaining what happens and how to start the articles of impeachment The ninth I think is more interesting I'm seeing this more as a meme The Ninth Amendment, the enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny any

2:27:34 to deny or disparage others retained by the people. Maybe this is part of that millennial thing." What? You know, I have to re-familiarize myself with the ninth. Sounds like a hate speech amendment! Yes... I admit, but I'm poorly prepared for this conversation about the ninth. Okay well then why don't you re-prepare yourself for the next show when we do it on Thursday? But I'll say it again... The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people." Does that mean that if you are retained by the people—I think this is the You Can't Call a Senator A Douchebag? That's something like that? Well, we're in violation

2:28:21 of the Constitution, no less. This is not good! Okay, Ixnay and the Onsecutionay speech, John, we're gonna be very careful... Uhh..I'll put this on a list. Somebody will have some familiarity with it. I'm putting it on the list! Okay, back to the new list since we got to smoking thing that's the smoking thing as I wanted to talk about Yeah thats very interesting That is very interesting Hmm yeah They get nervous, they just rexy People are very...they're Rex Rex, yea Hey, bad things going on in Paris. I think you brought up the riots...I know this is the same riots- And by the way they still haven't reported any of that stuff on their networks. Nah just on your own news. Clashes have erupted in a Paris suburb as anger boils over allegations that a young black man was raped with a baton and beaten as police detained him. The skirmishes happened during a protest against police violence in Bobigny which had started off peacefully

2:29:19 I've been feeling hate, says this demonstrator. Since I heard about the case, I thought this couldn't be possible. It can't happen to see a conclusion that this was an accident is not possible for this to have been an accident Around 2,000 people had reportedly gathered for the protest when hundreds of youths began throwing objects at police and burning nearby cars. Riots and protests have taken place all over France in the past week after the alleged violent arrest in the Paris suburb of Olney-subway. Four police officers have been suspended pending an inquiry one is being investigated for suspected rape Now I think they might mean sodomy instead of rape

2:30:05 And this happened, I remember this happening in New York with a broomstick. But uh...I don't know this is not good. Yeah it's pretty much the same thing. But these are violent! This is violent stuff. It's not just little protests. This is violence. That's what was happening in Berkeley with that woman. That teacher. Yes yes yes So I have a couple of last stories we can throw in. Okay The one I, there was like two, you know the way CBS does it and this is here's a mistake they made and they did correct. And any little thing yes of course yeah so here's a couple of RT does the same thing only they go after fake news stories oh can i just kind of get us into the fake news then? Hello everybody! It's time for Fake News

2:31:04 Now I have two clips, but i think that I'm only going to play one of them which is the fake news examples. The better story which has two examples of fake news how they work and these are major major news outlets these are not guys just making stuff up this was just you know you have to say the fake new things get the meme is gonna die because it turns out to be just bad reporting which we discuss on this show constantly but listen to these two stories are quite good And fake news like this significantly contributed to the perception among many Americans that Trump's election was illegitimate. Politico's Lorraine Wollert published a report in early December claiming that Trump's treasury pick, Steve Mnuchin had overseen a company that quote foreclosed on a 90 year old woman after a 27 cent payment error The story was shared by the New York Times NBC News and The Associated Press But guess what?

2:31:54 Almost everything in the article was false. The 90-year old woman was never foreclosed on, she never lost her home and it wasn't even Munchen's bank that brought the suit Eventually this story was corrected but as is true with many of these stories people absorb the fake news but never the correction On January 26th The Washington Post Josh Rogin dropped this bombshell that there was a mass exodus of the State Department in protest of Donald Trump, writing that quote, The state department's entire management team just resigned unexpectedly. The story was shared tens of thousands of times on social media, reposted by the Washington Post Bloomberg and ABC News. But the truth is this is standing operating procedure Mark Toner... Hold on! Standing Operating Procedure or Standard Operating? He meant standard. Standing Reposted by The Washington Post Bloomberg and ABC News but the truth is this is standing operating procedure

2:32:50 Mark Toner, State Department spokesman clarified quote as is standard with every transition the outgoing administration in coordination with the incoming one requested all political appointed officers submit letters of resignation. The bottom line, Democrat appointees leave when Republican presidents come in and Republican appointees leave when Democrat presidents take office. The entire presumption of the article was false! Now it's no wonder that the majority Americans don't trust the media. You know I was thinking about this And a lot of this, both these sorts of reports. These are done by very young inexperienced journalists. Yes the young news hounds. The young yeah the young newshound looking for a story but they have no clue about how things actually work. They're clueless

2:33:43 And they're reporting this stuff, and this is what I think most fake news comes from. These guys are just dumb! Or...I shouldn't say dumb, they're not dumb- They're ignorant! They're incredibly ignorant! That's the right term. That's the right word. I don't want to use dumb. It may be dumb too but it's not what we're talking about All right now another why just get mother get us out of the way. Yeah, another one This is I hate to tell you this was a gay end story Doesn't bother me why would that bother mean by the Now this is about the story, this is like the follow up to the hacking of DNC and hacking this and hacking that story. And it may even include those three jokers, those three Muslim Brotherhood possible guys. But this is like a follow-up story that was done by RT because I think Russia today is a little annoyed by their presumption that they did these idiotic hacks that anyone could have done

2:34:43 And so they're going to keep reporting on this and they're gonna keep following up. This is a follow-up report. It may be one of the most popular news websites in the world, but Wikipedia has blocked The British Tabloid, The Daily Mail from being the source of any of its entries. That's after editors with the online encyclopedia deems the news... Isn't this what you asked me to play? The JNRT Hackers? Oh, this is fake news RT I'm sorry No, Gayen. RT hack. I'm sorry well yes i got it i'm so sorry yeah i always put gayens name come back there has been a twist to the headline grabbing election hack in the us for which russia was widely blamed for tapping into the democratic party servers with reports now saying it wasn't internal breach as a result of an

2:35:30 of an investigation, three brothers Abed Imran and Jamal Awan were fired from working on Congress's computer network. They're suspected of accessing specific areas of the system without permission more commonly known as hacking it is also believed they stole equipment. RTs Washington correspondent Guyanet Chichicago... Jesus! I'm just... This is unbelievable We have actual hacking going on inside our government. And where is everybody? Where's the yelling, stealing equipment which is funny as the outrage this is this is RTS Washington correspondent guy near Chichican takes a closer look at that staffers had access to the computer networks of dozens of lawmakers including those on the House Intelligence and Foreign Affairs committees one unnamed lawmaker was quoted by BuzzFeed as saying quote

2:36:20 They said it was some sort of procurement scam. But now I'm concerned that they may have stolen data from us, emails—who knows? Meanwhile a number of congressional members who employed the three IT specialists have already fired them but not all Not all. For instance, as of Monday Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz still employed one of the suspects Imran who is reported to have worked for her since 2005 just a reminder Debbie Wasserman Schultz was forced to resign from her position at the Democratic National Committee chair after her emails were leaked to the public. She, along with the Democratic Party and the U.S. intelligence community blamed

2:37:11 John, you gotta share it with Guyan but I'm giving it to ya. I'm sorry, i'm in a real one. I'm in a real one Holy crap! Holy crap Yeah, I mean just holy holy crap We have 50 terabytes? I have a lot of- But but no but hold on a second, but hold on a second So one of these dudes not named Ben works or still works until yesterday for

2:38:08 Shultz. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, so now all this hacking stuff we can... Now we understand maybe a little better why the distraction was put in place and you go oh look over at Russia don't look over here! You think these guys were involved in that? Yeah it's a nest bed yeah terrible And I'm not even if they were uh if it was a procurement scam I'm pretty sure if you steal in procurement in the government you're going to jail I'll look it up, but i'm pretty sure that is an offense you can go to jail for. I'm pretty sure its a felony Isn't that something you'd go to jail for? Yeah typically yeah

2:38:53 I got one little, uh... actually two ditties of fake news. The first one is just an outrageous comparison from Quiz Cuomo on the CNNs. So we have a new tweet. Alright. Can I do the honors? Standby! Tweet alert! Oh standby! Tweet alert! Here's a tweet alert in front of you. Well it matters because its about me. Alright So Chris is willing to read it now. In his interview with Senator Blumenthal, never asked him about his long-term lie about his brave service in Vietnam fake news Let's just please just show the top of the interview United States saying you should not be believed because You misrepresented your military record in the past There was no question that Judge Gorsuch said to me that

2:39:36 He found these attacks on the judiciary by the president to be- Really, the first point that I made in the interview. The President with all due respect is once again off on the facts and that's not something any of us have any desire to say on a regular basis but it keeps being true. Fake news is the worst thing you can call a journalist It's like an ethnic disparagement ugly words for people. That's the one for journalists and David, he just keeps doubling down when the facts don't favor his position." I love comparing the n-word to uh... that's what you're saying i really oh poor man the poor man no um

2:40:24 And I picked up this, and this is the last one that I have for today's program. This is from UCTV, University of California Television. They have a TV station apparently? You got access to it? Oh they've had it for years and one of the things they do...they put on a lot of lectures and I eat these lectures up! I just love lectures They're a little boring, but they were interesting. You learn stuff as you know it's one of those UCTV lectures that taught me that the absolute most The perfect number of hours of sleep for longevity So you'll live longer by a sleep expert that talked about this for an hour and fell asleep is guess how long I don't know seven Seven more than eight

2:41:14 If you get six, it's the same as eight. If you get five is the same as nine. I've always felt this if it's an even hour or odd number It's always good! I've always liked odd numbers but these days I'm slipping to even so I do about six at night. I wake up after 6 hours and just wake up like I am awake. Get up then? Yeah that what I do...I get up Anyway UCTV nice interview with Garance Burke from Associated Press talking about the new partnership with the face bag to combat fake news. I thought this was, I've been looking for this and there you go it's on UCTV who would have thunk? Garance one of the major issues that has emerged post-election is an increasing awareness that fake news was shaping people's perception of the candidates and of the campaign

2:42:05 What do the major institutions of the media do about that situation going forward? At AP we feel like we have a very strong role to play in both debunking news stories that are inaccurate, as well as lifting up fact-based deeply reported stories so that people can have the vital information they need to make decisions. It's obviously important for our democracy as well. So Facebook and AP and other partners have recently announced a new initiative through which AP and others will be helping to debunk stories circulated on

2:42:42 the social media platform that are false and call those out as such. Wow, fascinating! And does that mean a whole new section of the AP that is just the fact-checkers or do you already have a team in place that will be tackling Facebook and everything that's on there? Well, part of the report we've always had includes a section called AP Fact Check. Which you may have seen for instance during the presidential debates if Hillary said something in real time we would have a reporter debunk what she has said or essentially write yes indeed it was true for all of the candidates so were just expanding the AP fact check to include

2:43:23 basically vetting of stories that contain falsehoods. So trending stories that are inaccurate we will be putting out there and debunking them. So coming to a Facebook feed near you, false as certified by the AP? The AP and its partners, yes. Oh see there comes the verified little check marks coming everywhere on your articles is happening. Yeah you mean like that AP story about that Steve Mnuchin's uh ousting of some woman who didn't have 20...who didn't pay 27 cents on her mortgage which ended up on the AP so I guess it'll be stuff like that? AP won't even put the check mark on their own stories is that what we're gonna see here this is bullcrap

2:44:06 Well, it's happening whether it is bullcrap or not. It's happening and its interesting to use the term debunk I mean why if you're AP is that something the AP typically would use to prove that something is false or incorrect? Debunk isn't more oriented towards... That's for hoaxes Yeah let me just see what uh the dictionary says Let me just consult the book No I think it's appropriate Let me just see what it says Loading slow today To expose the sham Or falseness That's a little different than a fact check. That is to expose the sham! Yeah, that is assumed it was intentional. In fact literally it means to expose an intentional falseness. A lot of these fake news stories aren't intentional. The AP ran this story about the 27 cents.

2:45:01 Okay, so in that case you could say that when they say something wrong it's not fake news. It's just bad but she is actually using the correct term by saying debunk because they only go after stories that are intentionally false Yeah, okay. Which of course makes you wonder about how they handle Trump because Trump will say something like oh there's a million people that hate this when there was turns out to be 900 thousand right so then Oh he's a liar cuz he said it's a million but it's nine hundred thousand is what it really is He's a liar! He's an exaggerator is what he is yeah he's an exaggerator and they don't never say that It's not an exaggerator he's a LIAR well I'm liar in chief Well I've also figured out how he works okay mmkay

2:45:45 I'm sorry, I said it. I slammed myself. I'm gonna try it with you though. I'm gonna buy a motorcycle from you Oh yeah, got one all right hey That motorcycle for sale oh absolutely hmm what you want for it? Well, I'm asking about 2700 is probably worth about four grand I can but look at this thing and what a piece of crap It's probably it's I mean this is not worth more than three bucks are you kidding me get out here later That's how he starts his negotiations. He always goes big so that he can move back to a little, you know just the little bits if people don't know that by now that's how he does it and then eventually it'd be like ah that motorcycle is okay but you know he'll wind up paying two thousand for instead of twenty seven hundred. That's what the guy does yeah he does this is what he does what he does been doing that all his life that's how he's gotten where he's gotten

2:46:41 Well, remember if you really want some debunking go to Snopes4Snopes.com and that is the place So what is Snopes for Snope's? Oh you should check it out It's pretty cool snopesforsnope.com Debunking snopes? Yeah good yeah You get the Al Gore thing right? Oops yeah Snopes4Snopes.com definitely worth a look Alright everybody I'm on the beat I'll be on the Illuminati watch tonight And, uh... what else is going on? Yeah don't we have Valentine's Day. Lots of stuff coming up! We got Lincoln's birthday, President's day coming up next week and Oscars. Another show big show on Thursday. Big big show. With all kinds of crazy stuff it's nuts out there it's nuts people that's right remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA we appreciate all the help that you send us in the form of everything and also financial

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