1:56:42 This will help matters. Now let's start with the introduction, which is before we meet the professor and we have one of his students apparently has written in... Yes! Which he says it's got to be you talking about Troy? And I said yeah what turns out and he sent some links to some other research on this crap including some work that art that he's done He wrote a dissertation on it right Yeah, he wrote something and which indicates that another one of the things that this material does is it creates anxiety of the type that would require safe spaces. This stuff is the worst stuff in the world and has been on... Let's just step back one second. The reason why this topic is being revisited really for the first time
1:57:30 is because of Camille Paglia, the clips we played on the last show where she was talking about transgenderism. She says it's cultural, it indicates the end of a cultural collapse. Other things she said were about removing And the third one was that there's this and I have a clip about that later on, about this huge machine that is enabling this for very young children to be able to do what they want. who are children aren't confused just by definition. And that's I think that we all agree, that's rather problematic but you can't answer it. I have a different issue, different theory although maybe an additional theory and that is the atrazine
1:58:17 Let's start with the end, one of the last clips so you get a feeling for this. Let's play the Atrazine 7 Michael Clayton moment and that just refers to the movie Michael Clayton which I recommend everybody view because it's it's a truthful rendition of how a fixer operates well i originally thought that i had some suspicion that they had hacked into my email and i recently found out there was a professor at minnesota and i was going to give a big lecture and this profession the school public health Deb Dubinowski said that she happened to be standing in line at the airport, flying back to Minnesota. And just by coincidence she was standing behind somebody who was having a conversation on his cell phone and who identified himself as an employee of Syngenta. And he made the statement we have access to his email. We know where he is at all times. So it wasn't just paranoia on my part I had direct evidence that they had access to my email. At the time I maintained a second and third e-mail
1:59:15 that I could keep private, and I actually used that information that they had access to my email to send them information and sometimes false information. For example, booking plane tickets through that email because then I could send them to the wrong place so they wouldn't necessarily be there to follow me when I was going to speak at other places. OK who was behind? Who's after him? Syngenta, the company that makes Atrazine So let's start with the premise. This is Atrazine One, this is the intro before we get to talk with Troy. University of California scientists have discovered that a popular herbicide may have harmful effects on the endocrine system. Tyrone Hayes was first hired in 1997 by a company that later became agribusiness giant Syngenta
1:59:58 They asked him to study their product, atrazine—a pesticide that is applied to more than half the corn crops in the United States and widely used on golf courses and Christmas tree farms. But after Hayes found results that the manufacturer did not expect—that atrazine causes sexual abnormalities in frogs and could cause the same problems for humans Syngenta refused to allow him to publish his work. This was the start of an epic feud between the scientist and the corporation." Now, a new article in The New Yorker magazine uses court documents from a class-action lawsuit against Syngenta to show how it sought to prevent the Environmental Protection Agency from banning the profitable chemical which is already banned by the European Union
2:00:43 To start with, the company's public relations team drafted a list of four goals. Reporter Rachel Aviv writes, quote, the first was, quote, discredit Hayes in a spiral-bound notebook. Syngentis communications manager Sherry Ford, who referred to Hayes by his initials, wrote that the company could prevent citing of TH data by revealing him as noncredible. He was a frequent topic of conversation at company meetings, and Gentile looked for ways to exploit Hayes' false problems. If T.H. involved in scandal, enviros will drop him," Ford wrote. Well, for more we're joined by T. H., himself—that's right, Tyrone Hayes is with us—professor of integrative biology at the University of California Berkeley joining us from the campus TV station right now in Berkeley. Welcome to Democracy Now!
2:01:34 Can you tell us what happened to you, how you were originally tied to Syngenta, the research you did and what prevented you from originally publishing it? How long ago is all this reporting from John? Well, The New Yorker article came out quite some time ago. This interview was about a year ago and this has been going on though and it's been reported on and off since about 19...about the year 2000 So I mean, this is not news. No. But it's unreported except for... your buddy down the street there who talks about it and nobody talks about this is underreported suppressed news, let's just put it that way. And it will continue to be so because apparently this product was very important to corn crops as being used to an extreme. Couple mistakes they keep making they call it a pesticide they call it herbicide It's a type of weed killer. So similar to Roundup?
