Episode 890 · Thursday, 29 December 2016

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A Dutch media experiment reveals the fragility of modern journalism as global powers clash over Syrian pipelines and the rise of government-mandated disinformation centers.

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About this episode

Adam Curry exposes a Dutch media experiment where he successfully tricked mainstream outlets into reporting a fake third marriage using a photo of magnetic loop antennas. The incident highlights the collapse of verification standards as news organizations prioritized social media rumors over direct confirmation. Meanwhile, the Mother Jones report by David Corn regarding Russian cultivation of Donald Trump faces scrutiny as a potential intelligence plant designed to delegitimize the incoming administration.

International tensions escalate as Senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham demand aggressive sanctions following the expulsion of 35 Russian operatives by the Obama administration. In Germany, the government proposes a Ministry of Truth to levy 500,000-euro fines against social media platforms for disinformation. These geopolitical maneuvers coincide with a ceasefire in Syria linked to a massive gas field deal between Eni and Rosneft, suggesting the conflict remains a proxy war over European energy pipelines.

Cultural shifts take center stage as Camille Paglia critiques the rise of transgenderism as a symptom of late-stage societal unraveling. John Dvorak recounts a logistical nightmare at a capacity-crowd Disneyland and reviews the CGI resurrection of actors in Rogue One. The program concludes with a look at the Internet of Things, where a Bentonville murder case reveals how smart water meters and Amazon Echo devices are becoming the primary witnesses in modern criminal investigations.


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CHAPTER 01 / 36 Discussion

Technical Difficulties and Audio Technica AT2020U Microphone Setup

The program opens with a discussion regarding technical audio issues as one host inadvertently spoke into the back of an Audio Technica AT2020U microphone. They address the challenges of routing USB microphones through Skype and the necessity of replacing failed audio hardware. The hosts joke about their "award-winning" sound quality despite the initial tunnel-like acoustics.

audio technica· at2020u· skype· microphone setup· technical glitch· silicon valley

00:00 Yes, Russians. The Russians! The Russians are riling up our children! Adam Curry John C. DeVorah Yes! Thursday December 29th 2016 This is your award-winning GiveANation Media Assassination Episode 890 This is no agenda Protecting 2016 from the face-bag memes and broadcasting live from the darkest corners of the internet here in FEMA Region 6 Austin Tejasia. In The Morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where Plato's say woman who deliberately over decorate her house for Christmas has a lot of balls. I'm John C. Dvorak It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! Now is this the desired effect you're going for with your microphone sound?

00:43 Why would I do? You sound like you're in a tunnel. I didn't change anything. Ha ha ha, you sound fantastic! Okay... You sound like you're in a tunnel. You didn't change anything?! No, I didn't change anything Oh my god, this is very strange What happens do I sound okay in the tunnel no, no you sound like you're in a submarine actually I'm in a submarine here and northern Silicon Valley. You mess with your messing with me What did you do it was perfect? The minute you said hit it that's when I heard it. I thought I heard it huh am I still doing it Yeah It sounds like you're talking to that can that you always do really mm-hmm Let me see oh Oh

01:30 I'm talking into the back of the mic. When i took the mic off to put the shim in, I put the mic upside down. Ladies and gentlemen this is why we are without any doubt no doubt whatsoever...I don't care what you say! We are The Best Podcast In The Universe Okay, let me put the mic back on the right way yeah So those of you who are wondering what's happening here? We had some kind of technical issue glitch a glitch. Yes indeed we had a little glitch we jiggled the handle and And that result is John was talking into the back end of the microphone Sound pretty good Award-winning award winning sound John fantastic

02:18 This is the Audio Technica AT2020U. This is a podcasting mic that they make specifically for podcasters, and my other thing... apparently my audio device blew up this is the second time in 10 years. Maybe it's the third time actually I think about it No, I don't know how many times but I keep track of how many I buy because you keep them right? You don't actually throw them out No, no I throw it out. I throw out the bad one because that bad...I have another one of those old old ones up at the other house and I use that up there and I don't want to have a bad one floating around as they could get mixed up anyway. I got you

03:02 So this is the audio technical mic because the other micro switch to this other line of stuff that was making a buzzing sound And I had to move over to this and we wanted to test his mic out anyway Yeah, it's a good use little more high-end. I'm pumping as much in as possible Of course you know you're coming through Skype so it always makes a little more complicated but hey you sound pretty good If it sounds good, then sure that pretty I said Chris. I think this mic is 99 bucks or something like that It's cheap yeah, it sounds about right and it says Dennis a USB mic so goes right into the system yeah, baby writing to the system

CHAPTER 02 / 36 Discussion

Adam Curry Engagement Rumors and Fake News Experiment

Adam Curry clarifies rumors regarding his marital status after a social media post featuring wedding-style rings went viral. He explains that the rings are actually replicas of magnetic loop antennas and the post was a deliberate experiment to see how mainstream media in the Netherlands would report unverified information. The experiment resulted in several news outlets incorrectly reporting that he had married for the third time without contacting him for confirmation.

tina· engagement rings· fake news· netherlands· social media· magnetic loop antenna

03:38 Hey man, how was your Christmas? I want to hear all about the meetup, the LaLaLand... Well we've got the MeetUp to talk about. We've got Disneyland to talk about. I went to see Rogue One and I went to El Capitan to witness the Dolby laser projector on this monstrous screen. Right! This is the HDR version of it? Yes, HDR and all that. But I think everybody else wants to know about this. Did you get married all of a sudden? I know, I've been playing the wedding bells theme over the years knowing this was gonna happen and you kept telling me no! And I said yeah it's happening and apparently has and there is some silly little gif with your guys waving your wedding rings

04:28 Into the camera. Well, it's interesting this is a by the way I want to stop you there Okay, please do you get started? It interrupted the meetup So it interrupted an upstage let's say the meetup and so we were passing around people's phones showing you and Tina Waving your hands in the camera with the with shitty and grins on And so that became kind of a discuss point of discussion, but I didn't die But should have called by decide no we're talking about on the show. That's what I do Of course as well We do well this was very interesting for a number of reasons

05:14 Mainly how it's always fun to see our mainstream media works, but not just mainstream. How people work in general? Tina the key. So this was a test. This is it wasn't real. Well let me tell you the story OK so first of all stop talking I'm going to stop talking now now I'll need your interaction as we go along. OK, so yeah been team and I've been together year and half and she's been approved by you obviously if she's the keeper And we really love each other and we decided that, you know... We'd like to make a commitment to grow old together. That was how it started Which by the way most people find very cute when they hear that You of course laugh Now I find it cute So I said let's get some rings It'll be nice

06:10 And I had been talking about, yeah look you can't play instruments. That doesn't work. I got one, can I do this instead? No no! You know you can pretty much do that's only after the candles hold on um now so we've been talking about this for awhile both of us have been married twice we're not jumping up and down to jump into marriage uh we have decided next year summer when our leases are up we're going to move in together get a new place Uh, and what really was the impetus is I'd been looking for a while for rings. That was very specific. I wanted to well let me just cut to the chase. I found brand new that just came out. What are you doing man? You're not really interested. How long have you been looking for rings? Let's go to about three or four weeks

07:01 Oh, okay. Me! You know and I was talking about a certain design that i was looking for and I found it It was already made...it is a replica of a magnetic loop antenna A what? A magnetic loop antenna you see we can read each other's thoughts when were close together And I wanted to have a broadcast device and so there's a it resembles a magnetic loop as the exact same properties And, okay so I said will you grow old with me? And she said yes. Will you grow old with me and I said yes! That was what we had said yes to. Interestingly every single mainstream newspaper television show, even the news in the Netherlands now immediately announced that I'd been married for the third time

07:51 Yeah, I noticed that. And of course... That's what made it somewhat mysterious and somebody pointed out, put it on Twitter and said the news went around saying he got married again. He's getting engaged and then some woman wrote in on the Twitter she said why do they have two rings then? What does that mean? Usually a guy doesn't get an engagement ring but a woman does. Oh okay well there you go! But I would never stand for that So that would be the reason it looks like you got married because you got two rings. I don't blame the newspaper, but no, but they didn't ask me. They didn't call me. They didn't say hey what's going on? It was just a fact fake news fake news. They got my number.

08:38 They got my number. So nobody in the way, hold on a second are you telling me that not one member of the media in Holland or where they dog you for some reason from many decades ago? They've been dogging ever since Not one member of this vaunted crew of journalists even bothered to call to confirm anything? They probably couldn't have gotten a scoop! Not a single one Huh...not a single one And obviously, you know say let's tweet this out. I know what we'll do will say you said yes and I'll say yes to yes so let's see what happens So and also for us is like how don't have to go explain everybody but we're not married yet as an engagement Screw you that's our private business how we celebrate are well if it's your private business why you posting it on all the social networks? Well there I just gave you the answer

09:30 to see what happened. And guess what? Exactly what happened is fake news and it was just an interesting little experiment, and we were of course also happy. OK yeah so not Mary John sorry that's fine you have a wager. Yeah I lost 50 cents. I should have made a wager with you. That'd have been better. Well, again... You even took credit for it! What are you talking about? You tweeted something- I did take credit for it of course I took credit for it and the one that should take credit for is all me It's true in an odd way some of that is true And of course she also has great health insurance I have to say that's pretty awesome Now you're talking Yeah now I get it

CHAPTER 03 / 36 Discussion

Celebrity Deaths of 2016 and Social Media Hypocrisy

The hosts critique the public obsession with celebrity deaths at the end of 2016, specifically mentioning Debbie Reynolds, George Michael, and Carrie Fisher. They argue that social media tributes are often performative and hypocritical, noting that many people posting about George Michael ignored his struggles with drug addiction while he was alive. A contrast is drawn between the massive coverage of entertainers and the lack of attention given to figures like playwright Edward Albee or author Richard Adams.

debbie reynolds· george michael· carrie fisher· status quo· facebook· 2016 deaths

10:25 All right, everybody. This is the best podcast in the universe as you can tell from the snappy banter and awesome sound quality when you're talking to the back of them and the expertise of our hosts talking into the back of the mic. That's right, everybody. If it sounds that good I'm going to use it more often. Hey we got to say something right off the bat people 2016, I don't know if you've been seeing it. You don't have face back John but this 20 like... 2016 sucked! 2016 was no good worst year ever People have turned into blithering morons because celebrities are dying

11:06 I don't care about anything else but oh, not another one. Oh no! Not her mom! The celebrities are old mostly or so... When people think love and light Debbie Reynolds name one thing Debbie Reynolds did? I'm not saying that she didn't have a career but come on it was just so... Singing in the rain Yes it's true um No it was pathetic It's really... She actually had a hotel casino in Vegas for awhile Yeah, I remember that. The Debbie Reynolds Hotel? But my point is yeah people die you know there's no life without death Well i think what's interesting is Debbie Reynolds died the day after! I don't think it's interesting I think it's very normal your kid dies your heart broken you'd fucking die! No I understand...I think I would probably... Just somebody take a note of uh the time code on that one Oh please time coach mime code yes

12:01 But to me it really showed the obsession with celebrities. There were a lot of celebrities who died, but there were also other people who died... I mean no one talks about Rick Parfit of Status Quo who died You know when Edward Albee died who's a kind of a playwright celebrity, but I don't even remember him dying. He just died in February or something? I don't remember anybody paying any attention One of our great players is the guy Rodrigo who was afraid of Virginia Woolf among other good plays Richard Adams died Who's that? Watership Down. Oh yeah, right there is another one. Well I watched the ABC 2016 rundown. Ah now you're talking! Maybe I'll get some clips for Sunday. You don't have a clip oh damn... I don't need clips. Let me tell ya what it was. Alright let me just say something about this

12:57 Now go ahead, what was on the rundown? What uh... Celebrities. Celebrity's death. There was not one mention in the entire two hour period of Syria! No well why bother?! And I wanted to say something about George Michael briefly because i've warned for this. I said it was going to happen, I'm from the future It wasn't that hard to predict and the hypocrisy in it actually riles me up a little bit George Michael who I consider to be a great songwriter one of the best of my time really loved his songs This guy was a first of all as I've said many times when he released in 2000

13:36 When George Bush just became president, W. He released the shoot your HW W he released shoot that to shoot the dog video which showed Tony was an animated video Tony Blair as the lapdog of George W. Bush and it was a huge fracas. Oh you're horrible is kind like The Dixie Chicks or like Michael Moore when he first railed against the bush. You can't do this. And then he got excoriated. Particularly in the UK it happens, Phil Collins... By the way, Phil Collins put him on the Deadpool list. He's next to go

14:14 Phil Collins, the- How old is Phil Collins? He's in his 60s. Yeah but he'd been ill. He ran off with a nanny. Phil Collins can't buy a hit anymore in the UK. George Michael was excoriated... Now couple of things one this guy I've met him several times. In 88, 89 he was so afraid that Young girls would not buy his music if they found out he was gay. He was really, really hushing that up Okay! That's his business Then it was kind of forced out in 89 and 90 But he was a drug addict. Everybody knew it! We all knew it, he smoked weed, did coke, he did GHB... everybody- Coke's bad for the heart Yeah but everybody knew it, everybody knew it we all knew it and now oh love and light Oh here's me picture with George Michael that you people who do that You're fucking sick timecode you're sick

15:15 Okay? You did nothing to save this man. You don't give a shit about him, Time God! You do not care. You're now just for your own ego. It's disgusting. Are you talking to the Facebook people? Yes of course There is none... I doubt anybody that listens to this show is on Facebook What do you mean we have a huge Facebook group Oh, that really bothers me. Hypocrites! They're just picking off the cadaver now. This is a bunch of brain-dead celebrity mavens. This is what I'm saying... The 2016 rundown from ABC which was a Disney channel was nothing but just celebrity

CHAPTER 04 / 36 Discussion

Trump Inauguration and Celebrity Boycott Concerts

Discussion focuses on the difficulty the Trump transition team faced in booking A-list celebrities for the inauguration. The hosts review clips from MSNBC featuring Liz Winstead and Joy Reid discussing a potential counter-concert organized by Mark Ross. They analyze the media narrative that suggests a president's legitimacy is tied to celebrity endorsements and the backlash faced by performers like Elton John or Kanye West for interacting with conservative figures.

donald trump· inauguration· liz winstead· joy reid· msnbc· elton john

15:58 And I think that most of the time was chewed up by the brand Jelena breakup. Yeah, yeah That was the biggest event in 2016 You know what's really interesting at this point as we have the Trump inauguration on the way and As we discussed not a single big brand name celebrity would even consider doing it because they know their career would be over Look at Kanye West, he can kiss his career goodbye because of all the things he said. I have a clip about that in a minute but what I find interesting and i don't know if it was...I can't quite put the timeline together..i don't know if they really were trying to find celebrities? I think they were! I think they really did think they had Elton John and then that turned out to be not true or that he didn't confirm or whatever it was

16:43 But now the messaging is, hey this is not about celebrities. This is about people! It's about the American people and we'll have an American People Celebration and that's what...we don't care about the celebrities. However, the obsession with mainstream media that you cannot do anything if you don't have the celebrities on your side well pffft I mean, who gives a crap about you if you don't have any celebrities? And you recall the Republican National Convention. It was oh ha ha they have Scott Baio! They got you Chachki! Well let me play for you the co-creator of The Daily Show Liz Winstead. I've never seen this woman

17:28 And she, just her opening statement says enough about how this highly political show thinks about celebrities and the necessity for them. And well just have a listen as it's all the obsession with celebrities you basically cannot be president of the United States if you don't have celebrities on your side! First of all when you look at Celebrity Apprentice those were crummy celebrities so like the basis of his celebrity outreach is terrible Oh God. Hold on a second. So everybody who is on that show, which includes a lot of actual celebrities and not A-list but now I've now been escorted insulted by this woman because he doesn't have a big pool anyway. He's fishing in the BC and D Liberty pool obviously what does she do? The show is about

18:23 apprentices that are kind of well-known, that are gonna learn something. It's not a... they're not gonna bring in what do you think John Travolta is going to do the show? Are they nuts?! That's never gonna happen! I betcha if you asked him he would but that's... I think somebody like Travolta hasn't got the time or Tom Cruise right Tom Cruise is busy yeah But then, you know to me it was just accentuating the point at how hung up people are on celebrities. They're not all we need in culture. All right let's continue First of all when you look at celebrity apprentice those were crummy celebrities so like the basis of this celebrity out Stop stop This woman sounds like that Vivian Schuller woman with advertising whatever you want to call it doesn't she? It's a whole... I'm telling ya it's a genetic type Let's see if I can find that

19:15 It's a genetic type Like Vivian Schiller, let me see was the NPR advertising if I can't find it rich Rodriguez. No, I can't find it Don't worry about it. Hey, you're probably right here we go basis of his celebrity outreach is terrible but I think to your point So when you think of the A-list celebrities that are out there now, women, black and brown people, immigrants. Like for somebody who ran a campaign and won an election saying I'm going to strip rights away from you? I think they're human beings who said, you wanna know what? I don't think I'm gonna celebrate you when you want to literally destroy the lives of me and my family. Literally! Literally! Literally destroyed a lot, literally just coming in there like a bull in a china shop. When you want to literally destroy the lives of me and my family. And remember Elton John performed at Rush Limbaugh's wedding and it was the same thing horrible backlash It's like why would you help celebrate somebody who literally

20:18 Literally completely criticizes everything that you're about and your way of life. Yeah, I don't think so. I don't listen to Rush Limbaugh a lot Does he literally criticize every the way everything about his thing? Everything is way of life All he does literally yeah mark really criticizes you in your crappy life completely criticizes everything that you're about and your way of life. Yeah, Mark Ross is a concert promoter and the son of the late Time Warner CEO Steve Ross is in the process of putting together a large-scale concert called... Oh yeah this is my favorite this has been brewing for awhile but started off with basically a poster like where'd you get this? This is MSNBC Of course Joy Reid chorus the superstar

20:59 And so it started with a poster with just a whole bunch of names. It was free concert the same day as the inauguration, all the celebrities are going to be there we're creating something else for people to watch besides the horrible horrible ceremony which will now be the 45th time the horrible ceremony of swearing in a president no no We need to create something counterculture and of course because it's celebrities No one will watch the inauguration, everyone will watch

21:42 I think it's great for a number of reasons. I think it shows solidarity, I think it gives people who literally don't want to watch this person get sworn in something to watch. It is always nice to gather around and feel like hey we can move forward and I think its reminder that Trump couldn't get people. Not only could he not get A-listers but he could barely get B-listers. I do not think he can get Craigslisters at this point so I am thrilled that people are trying anything to counter this Hey, Craig Lister's now you're talking this is it's disturbing to hear how important a smug jerk off The the fun continued with traditional year-end winner or loser segment over there at MSNBC and So this again is joy read amjoy everybody joy. Yeah whatever show is and she has on

CHAPTER 05 / 36 Discussion

Kanye West and Black Lives Matter Criticism on MSNBC

The hosts analyze a segment from MSNBC's "AM Joy" where Jason Johnson, political editor of The Root, labels Kanye West a "loser" of 2016. The critique centers on West's meeting with Donald Trump and his comments regarding Black Lives Matter and racism. The discussion highlights the media's expectation that hip-hop artists must align with progressive political movements.

kanye west· black lives matter· jason johnson· the root· msnbc· racism

22:39 The Root Political Editor. Now, the Root I believe is a website that is affiliated with NBC or maybe just MSNBC Then they have the political editor Jason Johnson on Black guy It matters in this case And they do the typical Who's the winner and who's the loser? Hilarity ensued.

23:16 And he'll be cheering about this and this will be in history books for the next 50 years. That's amazing. It is emerging as the global hegemon after we defeated them in the Cold War, it's shocking. Exactly. Just shocking. It's just shocking. What are they talking about? The Manchurian candidate that's why Joe is this who are these lunatics? This is Joy Reed. This is MSNBC. Still on joy read. Yes. Is the news channel So Putin is the big winner because it's unbelievable, the hegemon of the world because they have the Manchurian candidate. Yeah brother... Now who do you think that loser is according to political editor of The Root? Hillary? Nooo loser.

24:10 All of this, he exemplifies what happens when you try and mix pop culture and politics and make the wrong decisions. He came out against Black Lives Matter. He said that racism is bad. And now he's allied himself with Trump had to cancel concerts people don't respect him people don't like him. He may be the only person performing at the inauguration. This is a year that shows you your politics- Stop stop stop. They're condemning him for saying racism is bad? Yeah That's what they said. Yeah, that's what he said I'm sure they didn't mean... He didn't mean to say that but that's what he said. I know! I know Kanye knows what he did Remember this is the whole thing remember? The MTV thing You can keep Kanye We know what you did Kanye

24:48 He went to see the- The problem is he exemplifies what happens when you try and mix pop culture and politics, and make the wrong decisions. He came out against Black Lives Matter. He said that racism is bad. And now he's allied himself with Trump had to cancel concerts people don't respect him people don't like him. He may be the only person performing at the inauguration this year that shows you your politics and your pop culture separate. Well also remember that hip hop origins was always about fighting injustice and being on the side of progressive change not on the side of Donald Trump Not on the side of Donald Trump. Gotcha, that's what hip-hop is all about not being on the side of Donald Trump. Oh it's painful you know I do like these periods in between Christmas and New Year because you get a combination of this

CHAPTER 06 / 36 Discussion

Mother Jones Report on Russian Cultivation of Donald Trump

A report by David Corn in Mother Jones is deconstructed, which claims a former senior intelligence officer provided the FBI with evidence of a long-term Russian operation to cultivate Donald Trump. The hosts express skepticism regarding the "spy" source and the validity of the memos mentioned in the article. They characterize the reporting as sensationalist and question the logistics of a foreign intelligence officer leaking classified memos to a journalist.

mother jones· david corn· fbi· kremlin· russian intelligence· counterintelligence

25:32 Totally moronic stuff with a bunch of morons, I will say. Just talking crap But sometimes they let someone in who's really smart and all of the sudden some guy like oh hold on a second what How'd he get on? You notice this They have a booking problem in lot of these networks. They can't get enough people and so somebody worms their way into a PR person, and then they find out that it's a mistake. Right? Well what was interesting is an article came out in Mother Jones which of course by many is seen as a bastion of free independent journalism which I'm pretty sure they're not

26:12 I'm pretty sure they receive plenty of government funding. I could be wrong, but we've looked at them and not necessarily... I don't see him getting government funding. We could look at it again. Where did they get? I don't want to say Soros that's too easy. Well, beside the point let's go ahead. The perception is that they're independent. The perception is that they're independent yes. I thought they got money from the Didn't get money for the endowment the National Endowment for Democracy. I have no idea, but we'll look into it anyway So on the, in the screen here, MSNBC again. We're going to have the author of this article. Here's the intro to it. Report from Mother Jones claims a Russian operation has been working for years to cultivate and assist Donald Trump. Now the story says that a former senior intelligence officer claims he gave the FBI evidence that quote

27:10 There was an established exchange of information between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin of mutual benefit. The former spy also reportedly said that FBI responded to evidence with quote, shock and horror and the spy believes a FBI investigation is underway. Okay! So, that obviously caught my attention. I like the idea of using a character on the... as one of your mystery men on the show has and just call him The Spy. The Spy! And The Spy says this and The Spy says that and The Spy says this Well thats... And he reports back they were stunned by this revelation

27:51 Well, that's kind of what it is because once you got the guy on but forget his name Once she got him on that's pretty much what it is. You know well the spy said this and the spy like what I met This for what's-his-name Corn David corn? I think is his name does that make sense David corn yeah, I think so corn yeah Yeah, David Coyne is the worst. Tell me about him what do you know about him? Well he's like a user with The Nation or one of these news magazines look him up guys they google them or not Google and find out what magazine works for He is on MSNBC all the time with the worst material it's just like It's just crazy stuff! He's closest thing to babies in the cow udder whatever was

28:39 I met this former senior intelligence officer who's really an expert and specialist in Russian counterintelligence for a intelligence service that we all would respect, and learned that he'd been sending very detailed memos to the FBI throughout much of the summer based on his own work that he did with Russian sources. Hold on a second let's start with the premise here. Whoops! Let's start with the premise

29:26 Do we have a senior intelligence officer with some well-known agency, which has to be one or two or three? Is he talking about the US agency or is he talking about FSB. Or was you saying it's a counter spy for one of our agencies who is over there reporting back? Well whoever it is, he's not going to talk to David Corn under any circumstances Ever. It's just not gonna happen, he's not- you can't do that it's like you know this is a good way to get your ass in a sling so thats not happening So that's what the premise is off. You doubt you doubt the integrity of Mother Jones? And so I see it as some either the guys just a BS artist, which would be great to get one and then just make stuff up and tell him all this crazy stuff. The second thing is if he is doing anything like he describes, he's not reporting to the FBI ever

30:20 The FBI doesn't work for the FBI. They don't cut him checks, he's not calling them up and telling them stuff to do this is bullcrap that he did with Russian sources that was indicating that there had been a Russian operation too for a couple years now to co-opt and cultivate Donald Trump And he believes, you know in terms of the response he got from the FBI they asked him for more information and he provided it. But this was a subject matter that they were of course keenly interested in Was he able to reveal what information he provided?

30:57 Well, I saw some of the memos he sent. And in the memos... Oh crap! Yeah there were faxes probably. Here take a look at my top secret memos. David Bourne who i don't know from Adam here read my top secret memos because I don't care about my job or security or anything. I'm a crappy spy to be honest about it And in the memos, he doesn't identify the sourcing by name but though he describes it and I'm sure to the FBI you could give the actual names. But it'd be something like a foreign minister official or former Russian intelligence officer or somebody who was at the hotel when this meeting happened says this that the other thing so that's sort of the level... Wait a minute wait now there is your spy craft right there

31:45 What is that and the other thing what did the guy say well you know he said Says this that the other thing. Is that the other thing? Yeah, it's facts fact check false I say so That's sort of a level detail that he would get into now So and if you read the article is very long And it's just as dumb as this pretty much but The reason I bring up Putin is because we have a new jingle to play. And whenever we have a new jingle, I get really excited particularly if they're really good. I think you might want to be sitting down for this one, Josh. I'm sittin' down! I'm ready! Epped up blue and you don't know where there's fake news Why don't ya get your gitmo fix? Putin on the rest Dressed up like a million dollar trooper

CHAPTER 07 / 36 Discussion

Putin on the Ritz Parody Song by Secret Agent Paul

The show features a musical parody titled "Putin on the Ritz" performed by Secret Agent Paul. The lyrics mock the prevailing media narrative regarding Russian interference, fake news, and John Podesta. The hosts praise the creative quality and vocal "chops" of the producer, noting his history of creating topical jingles for the program.

secret agent paul· putin· john podesta· parody· fake news· ritz

32:37 Trying not to look like Anderson Cooper Super pooper Come let's mix where John Podesta walks with kids Oh, I mean pizzas in his mitts Putin on the Ritz Hell yeah! That's good. Who did that? Secret agent Paul, he's done all the good really if you look he's done He can sing he's got a nice mocking voice chops. Well, he's done. He's got chops. Yes Diane Sawyer drunk again. He's done f cancer that l shabab shibam

33:14 Al-Qaeda, Elvira. I mean the guy's done so much! I'm glad he has enough time on his hands to throw us a bone He actually doesn't have a lot of time on his hands but... No that's what i'm thinking That's what I meant Obviously a guy like that is busy The problem with the creative types if I may interrupt Is that a lot of them especially if they're no agenda people They will it'll cuz something will come to them. That is like a no agenda related little jingle like that and Because if you're creative you actually have to get it out of your system Yes, your spot on you got or it'll sit there in fester yes And clogged you up yeah? And so he had to do that to get it out of the system and okay now I can get back to my real job Yeah good Nice made it. You know you're right all right

CHAPTER 08 / 36 Discussion

Rosneft Oil Deals and Syrian Ceasefire Agreements

Vladimir Putin's announcement of a ceasefire in Syria is linked to international energy maneuvers, including a deal between Italian oil company Eni and Russia's Rosneft. The hosts discuss the 30% stake in Egypt's Zor gas field and reiterate their theory that the Syrian conflict is fundamentally a war over competing natural gas pipeline routes to Europe.

rosneft· eni· syria· vladimir putin· zor gas field· egypt

34:08 That's great. Okay, so while we're talking about Putin there are a couple of things that are interesting that happened just in the last 24-48 hours and I believe these two news stories are related... There is now an oil deal between Eni and Rosneft. So Eni is the Italian oil company, Rosneft being a Russian oil or gas. I'm not sure. I guess it's an oil. Ross Dressler Ross Neft is mostly gas isn't it? I'm looking at the article now and says Oil Giant Rosneft. Okay but so they're taking 30% stake in the giant Zor Gas Field which is offshore of Egypt

35:00 My, my point being that there are now moves and we're seeing stakes in oil companies. And of course my assertion has always been this whole thing started with an argument over whose pipeline was it either going to be Russia's pipeline Iran Iraq Syria boom up to Cyprus then into Greece into Europe or was it going to be Qatar and Saudi Arabia and the Turks? And you can clearly see that all of a sudden, hey those guys seem to be fighting those guys so maybe it is all about that. So this says now shares are being sold back and forth and Putin I guess last night announced ceasefire agreements in Syria three documents signed seems that maybe we have something happening which of course is happening without the watermelon head which must irk him to no end

CHAPTER 09 / 36 Discussion

McCain and Graham Push for Russian Sanctions

Senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham are criticized for their aggressive stance on Russian election interference. The hosts argue that the DNC data was likely an internal leak rather than a hack, referencing the death of Seth Rich. They suggest that the "Russia hacked the election" narrative is being used by both parties to protect the interests of the military-industrial complex.

john mccain· lindsey graham· russian sanctions· dnc hack· wikileaks· seth rich

35:53 I don't know if that guy can actually be irked. Well, he got an earful. So staying on Putin for a moment... A sit-down this is interesting little ditty Lindsey Graham and John McCain were doing interviews together like an old gay couple sitting next to him with the fireplace in between them did you see this? It's pretty funny! I know who advised him on that Somebody with a sense of humor. Oh, that's true He has had multiple opportunities and I do want you to answer Senator Graham too both before and after the election to accept that assessment And yet he is doubled and tripled down on talking about a cozy relationship with Putin denying the intelligence community's assessment What are you going to do Senator Graham and Senator McCain if he doesn't change his tune in effect on Russia?

36:45 There are 100 United States senators. Amy Klobuchar is on this trip with us, she's a Democrat from Minnesota I would say that 99 of us believe the Russians did this and we're going to do something about it along with Senator McCain after this trips over We'll have the hearings and put sanctions together that hit Putin as an individual in his inner circle for interfering in our election and they're doing it all over the world not just in the United States. Estonia is hit all the time, they are interfering in elections and democratic countries efforts to self-determination all over the world its just not in our backyard. Oh man! That guy's ruining everybody's day

37:29 That's no good. Oh, yeah I've said this before i want to say it again all right wait are the republicans who took this election they got the house they got the senate they got the president they wouldn't have gotten a president if the russians had the only thing they may have hacked would be the dnc even though all evidence points to the guy who was shot dead in the streets yeah who was working for the republican party and decided that it was there were bad There were bad actors when it came to Bernie. He was working for the Democratic Party, not Republican. Yeah I'm sorry he's working for the Democratic Party and then he saw what was going on with Bernie how they were screwing him over so they released this stuff to WikiLeaks that's really the easiest thing. The Podesta emails were a simple phishing expedition that anybody could do

38:10 If they just go to the dark web and look up, get a few scripts you can do it yourself. So the Russians involvement is zero the way I see it but that's okay let's blame them and then we can also say to ourselves as Republicans We probably would have lost! It would have been Hillary as the president I mean, is that what they're trying to do? Put Hillary in. What is wrong with these people?" Well this only solidifies the argument that political parties are both owned and operated by the same people on the back end! It's all about the money it's the military-industrial complex although I believe Donald Trump is going to up the spending more than we even can believe...I think Yeah probably and then the complaining will stop

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Correction on John McCain's Military Service Record

The hosts issue a correction regarding a previous statement that misidentified John McCain as a prisoner of war in Korea instead of Vietnam. They address negative feedback from listeners on Reddit and email, defending the error as a minor slip while maintaining their broader analysis of the Vietnam War as a proxy conflict involving Russian support.

john mccain· pow· vietnam war· reddit· correction· proxy war

38:53 Yeah, although the NDAA which President Obama signed stealthily Friday That actually, as we read increases the money, the budget by three or five billion. So that's on the numbers that we can see and it increases personnel. We read those amendments so there is actually more money going in than was expected. A correction I have to point out incorrectly on the previous episode when we were talking together 888 We misidentified McCain as being a prisoner of war of Korea instead of Vietnam. Now... Right, although the point remains the same that actually the Vietnam War was a proxy war and the Russians were helping the North Vietnamese because the Chinese wouldn't. So there's two things I want to say about this By the way, the guy who told us this got really bent out of shape about it. I blocked him he was so annoying on my email

39:46 Well, you know he was being a little shit. Timecode! Because he was being annoying about it where all they had to say is hey ya messed up and we'd say oh yeah shoot your right now my disappointment in the chat room they may have been screaming that we had done it wrong but because of all the comedians in the chatroom I can't always catch everything out of the corner of my eye so guys work with the program and don't be all...I mean you should've seen the reddit John Like, we can't trust them anymore if they can't even get that right. What else is wrong? They're horrible! They're Trump supporters! It just never ends. You got a new voice you're using. Yeah it's pretty good. The evil Reddit. Evil Reddit. Oh yeah I don't eve- oh yeah no um

CHAPTER 11 / 36 Discussion

Germany's Proposed Ministry of Truth and Fake News Fines

Germany announces plans to establish a defense center against disinformation ahead of the 2017 Bundestag elections. The hosts compare this to Orwell's "Ministry of Truth" and discuss proposed fines of 500,000 euros per fake news item. The narrative in Europe is shifting to equate "fake news" specifically with Russian propaganda.

germany· bundestag· fake news· ministry of truth· disinformation· 2017 election

40:39 Well, I do have a fake. I have a German connection to your last story if you're going to play it. I know exactly what you're gonna do let's play it! I love this is fantastic This is the clip of fake news in Germany Yes And now the fear of perceived propaganda or fake news has spread to Europe All right stop right there all of us sudden and I thought this switcheroo was quite entertaining they've switched And I think this is something that's going on in all the media. Fake news is not fake news like crazy news has got nothing to do with anything, fake new now equates to Russian specifically she didn't say it. Specifically fake news equals Russian propaganda, Russian disinformation

41:27 Isn't that fascinating? It's beautiful the way that goes. Let me just... And now the fear of perceived propaganda or fake news has spread to Europe in Germany there are concerns that it's 2017 Parliament vote will be undermined, Peter Oliver explains. We saw it in the United States fake news fake news fake news fake news fake news fake news now fake news from Russia is being touted as the biggest threat to the 2017 Bundestag election in Germany We are having to deal, to some extent with information coming out of Russia as well as cyber attacks originating from Russia. Coping with this is an everyday task for us." Over the last couple months Germany's security bigwigs have been preparing us. There is growing evidence of attempts to influence the Bundestag election in the coming year

42:22 We expect a further increase in cyber attacks in the run-up to the election. In fact, Germany is so concerned about fake news that 2017 will see the establishment of the country's own defense center against disinformation nothing at all like Orwell's Ministry of Truth. Thank you Bob Seger propaganda time. Bob Seger always... You kind of stepped on the punchline, but that's okay. No I heard it well! If you want to reiterate it then? I'm sorry. Yeah he was just making fun of the fact that this is The Ministry Of Truth from 1984. So this is interesting

CHAPTER 12 / 36 Discussion

Silicon Valley Media Liability and Uber's Regulatory Hubris

The discussion turns to the legal risks faced by social media companies like Twitter and Facebook as they begin to act as editors rather than common carriers. By editorializing content, they may lose "safe harbor" protections under the DMCA. The hosts also mock Uber's refusal to obtain autonomous vehicle permits in California and note the AP Stylebook's new requirement to call these companies "ride-hailing" rather than "ride-sharing" services.

twitter· facebook· safe harbor· uber· ridesharing· ap stylebook

43:13 This is not law yet. This is a little different than the way that we did it, we just after the fact dreamed this crap up they're doing a pre-announcement Yeah and of course this is not law yet This is something that they want to put on the books and talking about a 500 thousand euro fine per fake news item And really stick... yeah that's the number Stick the fork in them What Facebook did wrong is and Twitter now is also saying, Oh we're a media company. This is about the dumbest thing you can do. Hello Yahoo! This is the yahoo how many times? I am yahoo we're a media company they had 15 CEOs oh yeah media company uh The minute you start they have you know you have the digital millennial millennium copyright act

44:00 And you can have a safe harbor. Say, hey, you know we don't edit anything people put stuff up there if you got illegal thing will take it down but now once you get into the business of actually changing content deleting it editorializing then do you no longer qualify under the safe Harbor stipulation so these guys will get regulated out of business? It's goodbye goodbye that was I agree with this fact I've written about this years ago When the issue first came up with early, like even MySpace and some of these things before that. Yeah, yeah, GeoCities GeoCities, they made a huge point that we got nothing to do with what these people are posting. If we had something to do with it then you could sue us but we got nothing to do with it and we're just like a common carrier is the use always say We're like the phone company. The phone doesn't regulate the conversation between you and another guy And that's what we're doing here at Geocities So now these idiots...and I agree with you 100% this is the stupidest thing you could do

45:04 Yes, which is to all of a sudden say that now you're a media company. So now you're up reliable for everything so dumb So they're gonna get like slander suits libels suits this sort of thing go right after Twitter They got the money this poor schmuck that posted it You're a moron if he hasn't got any money but you can say well Twitter would a Twitter approve it I Can't believe this is the naivete This is not naivety. I wrote about this... Naivete of people who actually believe they own the truth, that's the naivete! Well no it's a naivete of the Silicon Valley mentality this is the same thing with Uber when they decided all of a sudden that they don't need permits from the state of California to run autonomous tests all over the place killing people? They don't care No we don't have to take your permit screw you By the way The Associated Press has heard you

46:02 And in their most recent style guide, here is a rule. Services such as Uber and Lyft are ride hailing services or ride booking services don't call them ridesharing services. Very good John That's where the white right hailing comes from that makes sense. Yeah, that's anyway This is the kind of dumb night This is the naivete of the kind of Millennials and running Silicon Valley these sorts of companies not all of them obviously But they're dumb They don't know what the heck's going on now And they're making these sorts of errors that have been already we've already gone through this in the 80s just look at Yahoo are you blind?

46:45 Yes. Well, there's Yahoo! Yahoo was the media company. Remember they brought in Terry? What was his name? But Terry Semel came in and he was going to turn into a massive media company and then they clapped out. AOL Time Warner Massive Media Company We're gonna rule everything Right that fell apart immediately thereafter. It just failed merger in history pretty much Yeah I'd say And well these guys are making mistakes yes It was kind of a little bit of a side note. I got an email from the White House, from President Obama. I got an email from President Obama... Oh you did? Yeah he says hey would you like to receive a handwritten thank-you note? Like yeah i want that! That'll go perfect with my Hillary Clinton invitation to the White House. Now why didn't get this memo? I'm on his list and friends. See I donated to everyone's campaign that's how I got all the

CHAPTER 13 / 36 Discussion

Obama's DNC Fundraising and Factivist Ruse

An email from President Obama's list is described as a "ruse" to solicit donations for the DNC. The host explains how an offer for a "handwritten thank-you note" and an invitation to become a "factivist" both led directly to payment screens. The segment critiques the aggressive digital marketing tactics used by political organizations.

barack obama· dnc· factivist· fundraising· email marketing· democrat

47:38 Well, you got to the A list or what they call in the mail order business. The hot list I'm on the hot list. So yeah Yeah, I want that fill out my name boom click okay? Oh yes next page Yeah, but do you want to support Democrats and like no no way to skip it so your forced your forced into paying, which I didn't do of course. You had to pay? If you want the thank-you note yeah you don't get... Oh that stinks! What does he need money for is he running again?! For the Democratic National...for the DNC and but then i got follow up emails so you're almost there one more step you almost have a think and I'm not gonna do that but then they sent me another note become a factivist. Ooh Yeah hold on let me write it down as a showtime. I know I know factivists

48:29 I'm pulling up the email now. Who calls you up with that one? Want to get exclusive news and updates about Donald Trump and his fellow Republicans, and share the facts about the GOP with your friends and family? Sign-up to become a factivist! So i sign up? Sure ya do Next page? Donate No, I want to be. I don't want to pay you to be a factivist. Why should you have to pay to be a factivist? Well it's obviously a ruse It's just the way to get on the mailing list. It's a ruse! It's a ruse and uh So you never got your signed thank-you note? No because i didn't pony up no way I didn't chip in Chip in, factivist Gary Jungling producer of the show recalled

CHAPTER 14 / 36 Discussion

National Association of Broadcasters 2013 PSA on Trust

A 2013 public service announcement from the National Association of Broadcasters is replayed to highlight the industry's self-promotion as the "most trusted source" for news. The hosts find the messaging ironic in the current climate of "fake news" accusations and declining trust in traditional media institutions.

nab· psa· broadcast news· trust· 2013· media

49:24 in as regards to fake news. A PSA we played on episode 571, May 30th 2013 he actually sent me the clip from the show but I went back and got the original PSA which was from The National Association of Broadcasters it was your clip and i thought that's kind of interesting in the context of fake news today what the NAB was talking about just three...about four years ago. In times of joy In moments of grief, we are there. When the world looks for truth, broadcasters come through even when all else fails Today with more ways than ever to experience the moments that transform our lives Americans still choose broadcast television and radio more than all other media combined

50:19 Television and radio are still the most trusted sources for news and entertainment. And our web and social sites are among the most visited sites in our daily lives. When important moments happen, both big and small we're the first informers to history We are the pioneers, the innovators, the local broadcasters of radio and television reaching more people touching more lives Wasn't that great? We. Yeah! We are the trustable... I wonder where he got that. We are trustab- you can trust us. Hey, hey, hey! You read that? Fake News! Alright everybody, that's it. Mmm ping pong balls of fake news yes

CHAPTER 15 / 36 Discussion

Christmas at Disneyland and The Blue Bayou Experience

John Dvorak recounts his Christmas visit to Disneyland, noting the extreme crowds and the holiday-themed overlays for rides like the Haunted Mansion and "It's a Small World." He describes the logistical challenges of the park reaching capacity and provides a negative review of The Blue Bayou restaurant, citing poor lighting and lack of privacy from passing ride boats.

disneyland· christmas· haunted mansion· it's a small world· blue bayou· club 33

51:08 Love all right. Well, I can talk to it's still want to just talk about it Take a break and talk about the party the meetup. Yeah, you wanna do a little bit? Yeah, I'd love to hear a little bit about it now But maybe you should now did you do Disneyland the first day or the second day we did Disneyland on Christmas? You should do in order talk about Christmas first Let's see, what do we do first? First we went to dinner I think in a cafeteria. Well not that okay yeah did We go to Disneyland and we leave early i have To say this i've never seen anything quite like This and were stunned by the freeway traffic on Christmas it was like It's like the world had ended And nobody was out they're all gone They all left the area I have never seen Traffic like this

51:54 there was nobody on the roads. And apparently what was going on, they were already at or going to Disneyland I talked with one of the police guys as we went into Disneyland which is all dolled up for Christmas and in fact they rewrote a number of rides and storylines into rides themselves for Christmas. I'm under the impression that from Halloween until New Year's, for example. The Haunted House ride? Totally different ride! If you haven't been on the Haunted House Ride... I've been on the Haunted House Ride at Halloween and yes it is different. Yeah totally different right and the one that's a real head-scratcher even though some people didn't want to go on it but we did at least half of the family did Is the Fairy Dirtland ride

52:48 Which is also known as it's a small world. Oh, yeah It's a small world after all That song is just now part of a medley of tunes for the Christmas period which is mostly jingle bells Jingle bells and all the rest of these Christmases Yeah, all this low-end and they've changed everything inside like what happened? And so that was interesting and they've also lengthened the ride. I took a movie of it, of the entire ride. Wow! There's some copyright violations somewhere? Oh there's tons... It's all copyright violations. I'll post it and they'll let me take it down. And its 16 minutes

53:32 Wow, that's pretty long. They've lengthened the ride it seems and of course it was also bumping into... It was loaded with traffic, little boats were bashing into each other constantly same thing with Pirates Of The Caribbean although they didn't change the storyline they put Christmas gifts everywhere and also that African ride where you go through Africa in a boat. That totally changed it. They got the elephants and everything are in Santa suits, they've got crap hanging off of them It's ridiculous! Were any of the Dvoraks high when you went there? No I was thinking to be... It would have been a good idea Yeah if you had me out there i would have arranged it Now the thing is that I was told by one of the police security guys because we chatted with him

54:27 are waiting for people and he says, oh Christmas is the most crowded period ever. Every year it's the same. He says do not leave the park because if you leave the park you'll never get back in because every year the fire marshal shuts it down. Oh okay no more people are allowed in! Good tip And so we stayed in there and watched all the way to the fireworks, and then we left. I thought it was... It was SO crowded! that it was actually interesting. It was so crowded because they're struggling with trying to keep people getting on and off rides, and this looks like it's just a total struggle. We finally went to this restaurant The Blue Bayou which is next to Club 33 I'll post the picture of myself standing next to the club 33 door. Isn't that burned down? No, this is Disney Club 33

55:23 It's not a disco, it's a lounge. Yeah inadvertently every year we get about 15 emails of people saying I found Club 33 in Disneyland! Yeah we know thank you So the Bayou place is not recommended. Well, at least on a crowded day I thought it was for one thing It's pitch black inside and you can't see your own food. I find that annoying and It's got some and then the boats from the parts of the Caribbean go right by it so these guys are watching us eat That's kind my report from this. I thought it was fun. It was fine. All right Thank you now we'll continue with this story

CHAPTER 16 / 36 Discussion

Rogue One Film Review and Woody Allen's Cafe Society

The hosts review "Rogue One: A Star Wars Story," focusing on the use of CGI to recreate deceased or aged actors like Peter Cushing and Carrie Fisher. While praising the action, they express fatigue with the Star Wars franchise. They also briefly discuss Woody Allen's "Cafe Society" on Amazon, criticizing its ending.

rogue one· star wars· el capitan· cgi· carrie fisher· cafe society

56:03 Uh, in the next break to where you feel like it. How about you don't want talk about the meetup or do that at the well? Then I got it. They were going to do an order like you insisted. I have to talk about the Disney movie next. The rogue one. Yeah, do that and we'll talk about the meet up uh, in the second segment there will be block D okay. All right. Rogue one. So we went to the 9am showing And I'd say in this theater, huge theaters. Anyone who goes to Los Angeles if you go to the El Capitan watch a movie it's one of the great experiences that you'll ever have it's a beautiful place and and its owned by Disney

56:42 So they got it all fixed up. So when you watch the movie, there's not only just a movie but there's a bunch of actual star troopers walking around and they come off behind the stage as a guy gives a lecture before the movie begins. There's smoke in the theater... How much was the ticket? What was the ticket price? 20 bucks each Okay And so yeah I think it's $20 But anyway if that took five people is 100 bucks You know it's better to donate Yeah, so they have this new they've got the new Dolby sound which sounds like the old Dolby sound to me and I got The new laser projector Which does I think is a negative attribute? Which is this HDR makes it so everything in a dimly lit scene you can see all the details because of the high dynamic range of the color of the gamut

57:34 Bigger and the color dynamic range is bigger, and so this is just going to encourage people that shoot in the dark It seems to me. I'm not sure it's a good thing because that movie was Dubiously lit oh, I thought the movie was personally Except for them they had some people that were not there They were dead for years And they still have them acting know Because what they've done is they've gotten to the idea where they can just They code somebody's face with a bunch of dots or something and then they can transpose somebody else's face on their face And then they can act with somebody else's face on that this technology is I mean it really does work. I mean yeah, I've been dead for you That works so well that when the movie was over everybody talked about it by my said what?

58:18 Because I guess they read about it in advance because I didn't even notice it wasn't the same guy But then I think about this is the old man from the 1977 movie. How could he possibly be alive? Right, right one of the evil guys and other lieutenant or something Carrie Fisher she's in the movie Yes, but it's not her either They just mapped her face onto something and according to I think I heard an interview with her where she says She wasn't didn't give permission for it He said she was annoyed by this And it looked like her. I thought it was actually her a little older, but they mapped an older face and seems...I don't know But that was kind of-that was very interesting and I have to kudos for that! Bu the story is the whole thing everybody dies and you know its explained in me that they were said to have died in the 77 film and I'd say well okay uh I didn't think much of it. I thought it was pretty Yeah The action scenes were dynamite

59:17 But yeah, I don't know. I think i'm losing interest in this Star Wars franchise The thing is I think Disney who's gonna really start emphasizing this are going to make them Everyone's gonna go see this movie Well you know why? I mean I have to say that with the amount of people who died In 2016 and the amount of time was spent for tributes It was pretty much all spent on the only tribute that made sense from a commercial aspect which is uh You know star trek So we don't want to talk about anything that doesn't have any commercial purpose at the moment. Or Star Wars. Star Wars, there you go. Star Wars I mean yeah! You got a dead actress? Oh let's talk about that the whole time and every single story was about Star Wars... Every Story

59:59 Yeah, there's a lot of tie-ins. So it's going to do very well commercially but I think people are gonna...I don't think this is gonna continue. I think they're gonna bank on this or the Star Wars thing we got made forever. I don't think so! I think this is dying on the vine personally. Personally and you know I'm more cynic kind of oh god wasn't that really an interesting story? It was kind of a suspenseful shoot-em up, no plot. We gotta get this map! Okay let's go get the map! I don't need to see it. You don't need to see it? No. That's what I would say yes you don't need to see it. Christina and I watched that Woody Allen movie, the new one that Netflix...that Amazon paid for. Well its not a movie, it is a series. No he has a movie out just released on Amazon

1:00:53 Paid for by Amazon. What's the name of it? It's so bad I can't remember the name of it, it's with Jeffrey Eisenberg and Amazon here we go what's it called its cafe something Cafe Society? I think well Cafe Society Yes cafes but we saw that at the theater yeah you saw it on a TV. I think was a theater thing Yeah, I liked it. I did not like the ending what was the ending yeah exactly Well, it's not that I watch movies. Oh the ending was so great! What was the ending? They both were in love with each other they were married to other people and... Oh yeah no, it was sad forever. Is there gonna be sad forever? Yeah, there is a sad forever. That's because you're getting married and this kind of movie is not for you. Oh please oh please And with that I'd like to thank you for your courage to say in the morning to you John Suh as he stands for Christmas at Disneyland In the morning to you Mr Adam Curry also in the morning all ships at sea

CHAPTER 17 / 36 Discussion

Donation Segment and Knighting Ceremony for Episode 890

In the primary donation segment, the hosts thank executive and associate executive producers for their financial support. They announce a planned trip to New Zealand and Australia in April/May 2017. Several listeners are granted "karma" and "knighthood" for their contributions, including Sir Marshall of Henderson and Sir AJ Anonymous.

value for value· knighthood· karma· australia trip· producer credits· donations

1:01:54 Boots on the ground subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there Are you talking in the butt of your microphone again? Cuz it's back in the mic Hello, hello. It doesn't have the same effect as a different previously In the morning to the chat room no agenda stream calm everybody good to see you there Merry Christmas to ya in the morning Martin JJ He brought us the artwork for episode 889 er which was our Christmas special The artwork was Santa being hounded by an f-14 kind of an old school retro And obviously thank you to Sir Ramsey Kane for putting that together for us. Truly fabulous and thank you to all our artists, obviously no agenda art generator dot com and thank you I guess I should say because he already bitched about it comic strip blogger used his artwork in the newsletter OK so they did yeah now be like oh I got using the newsletter not like guys this lousy T shirt No credit You put credits in a newsletter Now people are complaining John

1:02:53 No, people aren't complaining. You know you know People aren't complaining comic strip bloggers complaining yes We appreciate the work of all of our artists as always I didn't know he got the newsletter So use spend 100 bucks on tickets probably another 50 at least on some shitty drinks time cuz I did buy anything No one had anything to drink no they did but I didn't I personally Jesse posted on Facebook this morning and dot, dot, dot. I'm sick. I guess I won't be traveling when pregnant anymore and I'm like itching to place a comment you know? Oh she has a cold? She's sick she says Yeah she probably has a cold Well yeah you're traveling with mobs of people It was the pregnancy thing Don't mind don't mind It was just throwback call back Okay well i'm not going to delve into it Let's start let's thank a few people for show 890

1:03:51 came in as show 890, 889. The 889 was a clip show? Yes. This is Show 890, Ty Tran and Wannaroo, Wannaroo! Uh, 888 dot 88 so there's still a little carryover from the 888 dot 88 era. A merry X-mas to everyone in No Agenda Land being Chinese I felt... Ah ah finally! There we go someone gets it Being Chinese, I felt obligated to chime in with the donations to celebrate this occasion. Here's another 888 shows of this best... We have another 8888 shows for the best podcast in universe." Thank you! Thank you so much Ty. It says go podcasting and I do want to mention-I don't know if I said it before but Tina and I are seriously in the pre planning stages for a trip to New Zealand and Australia around April May

1:04:46 Okay, good. Yeah are you gonna have a meetup later there? The whole point is to meet everybody Everybody in Australia be aware and New Zealand I mean what places you're gonna go well the only place we not gonna Go to is Perth which I which of course is the most beautiful place in Australia But it just doesn't make any sense so you know Melbourne Sydney up through the Great Barrier Reef New Zealand Christ Church and Well the people are going to tell us now that they know But I'm very much looking forward to meeting everybody. It's been way too long since I've been in Australia, and it'll be a fun trip! Sounds like it. Okay onward... Marshall Skapula in Henderson Nevada, little town of Henderson 888.88 he's still there and he did send a note in because he was expecting this thing to show up on Show 888 which is two shows ago

1:05:47 He says dear John and Adam wonderful analysis of everything. I love it You are the only podcast that regularly listen to screw PayPal via snail mail I've sent you a lucky sack of eights nice However, I'd like to thank think of it as a sack of boobs tiny boobs little boobs use this donation Well and continue your vow of poverty one thing has been bothering me kudos to Anna for starting the donation segment tightly thinking you have completed your diatribe only to find you have a little more to say. This is tragically funny, get some hand signals or something it's the 21st century for God sake! A big red light, a big red light. He goes on... Yeah no overall... Who am I kidding? It's too hilarious keep up the good work please give Tony Farmer some acting karma really he's about to burst through to stardom Give Mark Ross a douchebag call out

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1:07:39 Thank you for an outstanding 2016. No agenda gets better and better with every year, here's to many more cheers! Okay thank you I think maybe a karma would work yes karma is good. You've got Karma. It was funny oh there we are okay Sir Alex Vanderhengst in Springfield Tennessee Then a check-in for 321. By the way, I want to mention to everybody that went to the No Agenda meetup your donations are going to be read on The Sunday Show Okay, I do have them by the way they came in here They came in yeah, and I have I have the donations from the meetup if you want to do them today no okay We're doing him on Sunday That's what I thought

1:08:38 Okay, and the reason is because there's this is two shows where these these thank yous are from two shows I got so there's a lot of checks and other stuff. It kind of like made him Bookkeeping book keeping nightmare, so I didn't want to do any with the donations send less money no No, we don't want to load up one show so much because we're gonna get like no donations on the Sunday show I know well if plenty to complain about you. Don't have to tell them to send less money They're not gonna send any money Onward I'm losing my voice doing what they do how did you get the donations? Eric sent them to me and mr.. DH slammer sent him to me. I have three copies Yeah, the edge slammer one is that one that yeah around all right We'll do that on Sunday good onward

1:09:29 SirHawAnonymous. We have sir... no, what about Alex Vanderhankst? You just did him! No it says JCD has note I have a note to read. Oh i thought you were reading and I'm sorry 32117 no I was saying that we're not going to do the meetup awards today. Okay I'm sorry John and Adam last year fellow producer started account down donation Use the idea and resolve to make a yearly countdown donation as long as I am able. I'm hoping you will have a Merry Christmas and a blessed New Year." Thank you! And, I don't know what the countdown donation means but he's at 32117 so we'll see what happens next year. Yeah, well 32118 Or no it's a count down it'd be 16321...I think he started with zero? No, I dunno. We'll find out

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1:12:35 That's pretty good. I have that handy. I like the part followed by thanks Obama. Oh, let me try those two again together to see how that works. Thanks Obama! Childish yet always funny. Yeah and i like the ah part. Very good combo Matt Mills $256 somewhere in Texas Have a newt. Adam and John, thank you for all the light you bring to my life I would like to show some love by making one large lump donation Lump please leave a litany of your present presence online on earth and all over the universe lots of luck And i hope to learn as much as possible while loyally listening

1:13:23 into the long, into the future. This is the most money I have put forward to anything online and I was going to purchase a firearm but first they decided to send some Christmas cheer instead with a quarter of my savings. Yeah! To follow the dollar and value for value model And then he says, F Snopes. Go team no agenda. Sincerely signed Matt from the Bell County sorry for the sloppy writing and this is supposed to be for show 888 but got bumped up just- I'm gonna give him some karma and if you're ever in Austin then you need to borrow a firearm all hookyup. You've got karma. No problem. Excuse me Mr Robber i have to go borrow a firearm yeah

1:14:14 Mark Lapicola in Madison Heights, Michigan who I believe is a knight. He doesn't say he says wandering surf. It says note John and Adam today's donation is a sack of eights and a pair of boobs because who doesn't like boobs calculation 80 dot 88 plus 8 0 dot o8 plus 8 oh dot o8 is 249 04 Got it. I'm glad he straightened that out for us. Yeah, thanks With all the cannabis talk of late, I thought i'd share my experience. I was privileged to sit on a jury in December As it happened It was a case of operating a vehicle with THC in the system Oh! It turns out while legal to possess and use marijuana in many Michigan cities It's illegal to have any amount of THC in your blood Yes Any amount

1:15:03 Well, this individual had open booze bottles. A big no-no in most states! He was not drunk nor was he high. He was pulled over for failing to move over for emergency equipment on the side of the road. Wrong move. However, the arresting officer did smell marijuana there were three baggies in the car. Huh? The subject... What? I just have to...I'm laughing because Danny the drug dealer moved to California to learn how to grow. Yeah, and but you know he does my dealer like I need something so he sends me this stuff through US postal service and i walk into the mail room here like hmmm...I think Danny sent his uh... You can smell it? Oh hell yeah! And he puts talcum powder in there all kinds of stuff oh yeah It's picked right off the vine there in California is beautiful Bring out the dogs

1:15:59 Anyway, however the arresting officer did smell marijuana. The subject was legal to possess but refused a breath test It's no breath tests for marijuana Hey breathe in my face And then he says that so blood was drawn under a warrant this was his downfall because they found THC even though He wasn't drunk I guess, buzzed. I'm hoping for a catch-22 marijuana law is not being used all over the country because even I as an nonuser recognize this is BS! Start jingle here. Yes. Bullshit! Time code? This...this is a long overdue donation to my knighthood please play The Korean News Lady

1:16:46 Ready? The ninja master, the guy who could call a million Ninja for Putin. Don't think you have an ISO for this one I couldn't find it. What was that again say that again maybe he says is the ninja message the guy who called a million Ninja for Putin. I don't remember this. He says he doesn't think we have an ISO or it were all gonna die and the fiscal cliff scream okay. You want to order again yeah Korean news lady yeah, I'm back on gangbanger down there again. Yeah, we're all gonna die in the fiscal cliff scream But you've always that second one that you said We wouldn't have the ninja master the guy who could call a million Ninja for Putin Let's just see ninja

1:17:39 Maybe this is it. Let me see, no... That can't be it Yeah I don't think we have that one That may be a little difficult to find So I can do this for you You've got karma Most of it! Yeah thats good Let's see what we got. We got Michelle Topinski, where is Michelle? Yeah there she is. Okay, Michelle Topinski in Alberta 23456 curiously followed by another one with 23456 curiously both as checks ITM John and Adam a first time donor my was the first time donor I was hitting the mouth by my incredible boyfriend John Billings in May I was immediately hooked on the first podcast and haven't missed one since I'm noticing this more and more

1:18:33 more people than I'd say four years ago will listen to one podcast and be hooked immediately. In the olden days, we always had to tell people to listen at least three. What changed? Hmm...I don't think it changed. I don't think it's the podcasts that changed that much Instead of calling John out as a douchebag her boyfriend. Yeah, as he has been a listener for over two years apparently never sending any money I would like to send this donation is a Christmas present towards his knighthood Although we live across Kate. Yes sweet although we live across Canada from each other I'm hoping this arrives just in time for when we'll be listening to the podcast together Oh well by this By the way Adam is there a reason you call us Canda Navia?

1:19:20 And, John I wouldn't say Canadians think they are better than Americans. From what I have seen we mostly don't feel the need to argue over it because you're superior. We are pretty easygoing. This is like the Los Angeles-San Francisco debate in every certain year. I can tell you exactly why do that microaggression. Exactly! Yes I would like to thank both of the... The Candidavia thing cropped up about two years ago and it's some sort of a gag. I think someone said it somewhere, by accident? I think someone said that we liked it. Yeah, yeah, of course we liked it! And there's Canadia is the other one. That's another good one, yeah, Canadia. Canada and Candidavia those are both winners It's close to people saying what do you speak in Dutchland? Right exactly. Hollandish

1:20:11 And it's definitely microaggressions. Yes, a total microaggression admitted I would like you to both amend...I'd like to thank you both immensely for opening my eyes to a whole other world. I used to believe in climate change because they watch one documentary on it before listening to No Agenda podcast had very we have another weather report today. I've used to believe in climate change before listening to the podcasts had very little world knowledge or ability to think critically No agenda shows my only media diet now is I don't watch any TV or movies. Okay, I don't know what I would do without the best podcast in the universe! I love your interactions with each other banter and literally laugh out loud commentary. I love you the humor you both bring as opposed to fear mongering that is so prevalent Thank you for changing my worldview and showing me what a slave I was! I'd like to request the following Obama? no-no-no-NO

1:21:03 Let's hold hands and share a secret. And looking forward to my twice weekly dose of sanity, much love Michelle. Ta-da! And what is it? Tell us secrets... Oh man I'm slow today. Tell us secret was the other one? Yes the Wii. The Wii is so popular okay we can do this. Hey listen hey you're in my house Game on ya! You shouldn't be doing this. Oh, there's no winning We don't like to foster a competitive atmosphere But we laugh a lot now everyone hug and share a secret you've got karma Alright well there was no no-no in there but that's fine I thought it was... That's uh..I'm sorry i thought it wasn't NoNoNo No NoNoNoNoThat's okay It was good combo

1:22:05 She can bitch if she thinks it was crap. I'll put one at the end and a showbiz. Ah, we're gonna no-no-no with you. Sorry! Do us some of those great songs. Yes, I shall. Kate McKiernan in Roanoke Virginia 23456 And she writes, dear John and Adam it's been about a year since our family's last donation. I like the end of the year when people are able to catch up. Yeah. I was listening to show 887 when they report on Italy referenced fake news sounding exactly like the mainstream media in the United States and referencing the same stories worldwide phenomenon new world order blame Russia. Pfft!

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1:23:40 I didn't pay enough. Stuart Morrison in South Yara, Victoria Australia 230 and he sends us a note. Oh, hold on, hold on, hold on. That's exactly what he sounds like. Sir Stuart Morrison of South Yara here to donate in light of the foiled terrorist attack in Melbourne. It appears... It appears Australia has received the holy hello citizen starter pack. The media is covering with as much hyperbole gusto as ever and I shall send you some resources hoping to be in the USA next July, and just sit at a medical exam looking forward to meeting some more producers then. Merry Christmas." Okay? Okay, I think that's it. Yeah okay

1:24:35 Now I have to use the scroll thingy. What is wrong with your spreadsheet? What's going on, man? I know, you're having issues. You like me to do them while you're James O'Brien now? 222 now you get this thing. I got a spreadsheet big thank you for your commitment to excellence there's 1 quarter one fourth towards your 888 Thank you so he got 222 Monica Oh Dame Monica Lansing and Drayton Valley in Alberta 208 88 And she says, Stephen and Jabu... Well here's the problem. I'll tell you what the problem is. Oh thank you! Happy New Year she says John and Adam. I'd like to request relationship karma for Steven and job karma for Ken keep up the great work Baroness Monica You've got Karma

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1:27:13 And we will be thanking more people later on, $50 or above. And again this is our value for value model thank you so much for supporting us thank everybody for supporting us but we love doing this at the beginning of the show and remember we have another show coming up on Sunday. Devorak dot org slash N A which means you can be just in time to propagate the formula for New Year's Our formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth You know these this credit role is like the ones they use on TV now where the show's actually had you know It's five minutes in ten minutes in and then they started telling you who's in the show. And right? Who's the producers, right Yeah, that's what we do. Yes what we're doing exactly We're doing I wanted to talk for a moment about a couple A couple of new stories that kind of fit into an overall theme

CHAPTER 18 / 36 Discussion

Trump Administration Memos and Media Alarmism

The hosts analyze media reports regarding the Trump transition team's requests for documents on federal programs related to gender equality and climate change. They argue that CBS News and other outlets are engaging in alarmism by comparing standard administrative inquiries to "enemies lists" and "political witch hunts."

trump transition· lgbtq· state department· climate change· cbs news· mccarthyism

1:28:17 that we've discussed before, but I had the pleasure of having my daughter here for the past week and I was able to ask her about it. As you know she is a full-fledged member of the LGBT community and knows a lot about it, and is very... he speaks with me about this with great ease. So we know that the attack- the attacks are taking place against the incoming administration are based mainly on race of not draining the swamp filling up the swamp hating women and I think killing gays. I think it's close to killing gays

1:28:54 And, uh... I mean CBS. I don't know who you were monitoring over the holiday. Uh, CBS really took this to the extreme, I think. You know insinuating all kinds of McCarthyite type ideas. The memo shared with CBS News requested details on existing programs and activities to promote gender equality such as ending gender-based violence As well as a list of jobs that handle those issues It did not state why the information was needed So wife beating has become gender-based violence? I guess so. Good catch, by the way. I hadn't heard...I didn't catch that myself. Interesting. Another rephrasing of the language. Oh yeah and this of course is about a memo that the Trump administration asked for federal programs and you know this goes along with everyone trying to copy their climate change research because they're afraid

1:29:54 the Nazis are going to come in. a big public burning, like a book burning. Exactly. We've got to protect the climate change records! So they said hey what uh what are the programs? What federal programs do we have LGBT? I'm sure they asked for all the programs including energy and transportation But this has been micro, whoa. This has been micro-analyzed down to this." It did not state why the information was needed but raised concern that the Trump administration might want to cancel State Department initiatives championed by former Secretary Hillary Clinton

1:30:40 The memo did not ask for the names of officials who work on these programs. Unlike a controversial questionnaire sent by the Trump team to the Energy Department earlier this month, it requested a list of programs and staffers essential to meeting the goals of President Obama's Climate Action Plan. The questionnaire prompted House Foreign Affairs Committee Democrats to urge Secretary Kerry in a letter last week not to single out his employees In our view, gathering names in this manner bears striking resemblance to dark chapters in our history marked by enemies lists and political witch hunts. Wait a minute! So I'm asking for some memos? And now all of the sudden I'm McCarthy?! The memos are public documents! What did I miss about that story? Whatever the story was you played...I don't have a clue what it meant.

1:31:34 The idea is the Trump administration is asking for documents on all kinds of programs. And as it pertains to LGBTQ, now the story is oh yeah they're looking and looking at taking names. So another attack which I think is... I don't believe this story! Oh, well it's true. I mean it's... No! Here is what I don't believe about it What? It makes it sound as though they did one thing and one thing only of all the things they've done over the past three or four weeks They've only done ONE THING And that has asked for documents about gay programs Well no she says very specifically There my voice is going again She says very specifically she says ummm They also did that for energy and transportation Well then what are we talking about here?!

1:32:26 propaganda, propaganda making it scary. Making it scary. Fake news! Fake news exactly now I'm not sure if this is fake or this is time...I believe its timed news? I think this took place half a year ago I didn't really have time to do the type of investigating. I'd like to, but the story comes out now it is a national story although I caught it on a local NBC station but it's an NBC package and we have to recognize before we play this that the current president of the Boy Scouts of America is also the incoming Secretary of State Rex Tillerson

CHAPTER 19 / 36 Discussion

Boycouts of America Transgender Membership Controversy

The removal of 8-year-old Joe Maldonado from a New Jersey Cub Scout pack due to his gender identity is discussed. The hosts note that the current president of the Boy Scouts is Rex Tillerson, Trump's Secretary of State nominee. They critique the media's framing of the story and the parents' role in the child's public transition.

boy scouts· joe maldonado· transgender· new jersey· rex tillerson· cub scouts

1:33:11 Yeah, something like Tillerson. I think I call him tillerman a lot. I don't like that. I think it's Tillerson yeah So if we're gonna make you need a nickname for him that's the problem. Yeah We'll come up with it Rex Rick Rex big Rex So, let's cause some trouble for these people. The Boy Scouts of America faces new questions after banning a child over his gender identity. Eight-year old Joe Maldonado who was born a girl and now identifies as boy was removed from his New Jersey Cub Scout troop. Joe's family says parents of other children had complained. Errol Barnett spoke with Joe and his mother. Errol good morning

1:33:52 Good morning. Joe Maldonado's mother says the organization already knew her son was transgender when she signed him up for the Cub Scouts, but now the Boy Scouts of America which is no stranger to controversy when it comes to membership rights is telling them he's not welcome. Joe Maldonado is just like any other 8 year old. Hold on a second! Are you telling me this is a Cub Scouts? We have some pre-pubescent kid... Yep who's decided he's a girl. Yes, and so he's decided... No no no no! He's a girl who is deciding like it's a tomboy in the olden days that's what we call person like this correct? So we have a tomboy prepubescent really doesn't get to point where they're even old enough to think clearly has made these decisions that the parents are all

1:34:42 all in on. This is the conversation we're going to get into in a moment, OK? I'm just gonna drop it. I just want to set the stage stages set correctly Sir thank you welcome Joe Maldonado is just like any other 8 year old. But Joe was born a girl. So as a parent, how do you know that you don't just have a girl who's a tomboy and that Robert is- Your question exactly! I drew you right into it. I love it. Who he was a tomboy and that Robert is a transgender- It took a couple years. I didn't realize it. He was born Julie That's enough answer for me

1:35:20 He was born Jody, but has been identifying as a boy for over a year Why did you want to join the Boy Scouts? Because all my favorite friends were there Joe was a member of Cub Scout Pack 87 in New Jersey But was recently removed over his legal gender which is female. What do you think of that reasoning I I don't know. Poor kid, poor kid! What do you think of that reasoning? I don't know. Child abuse right there man. They knew full well he was not born a boy. They all know

1:36:02 Joe as when he was Jody. In a statement, the Boy Scouts of America defended its actions saying in part no youth may be removed from any of our programs on the basis of his or her sexual orientation but added gender identity isn't related to sexual orientation In recent years, the Boy Scouts have reversed bans on gay scouts and scout leaders. But this incident could spark a new debate. Now the Boy Scouts of America says its programs are for those who identified as boys on their birth certificates. The organization tells us it offered the family alternative co-ed programs for Joe but his mother told me she is not interested and instead wants an apology from Joe

1:36:47 It's now that listen to the now we're back in studio Listen to a little banter amongst the hosts about this this story being a child and at that age is always tough I mean for a kid he just wants to belong. You know you really see public opinion, I know in your piece you said it's already coming. That will seemingly carry the day here." Yeah and the mother says she just wants to do what makes her child happy this isn't about anything other than that. Hear hear! Oh yes oh yes Who are these guys? Which- where did you get this from? I believe it's NBC Yeah, MSNBC. Yeah no it's the local that was the package they come back to the local yeah I love a little oh yes here here and they just want some air be here now this flows into the following three part clips series Why do you do that? You're not there we're gonna discuss this but that's where we're going to we want to discuss this No, you're not going to follow my lead Okay

CHAPTER 20 / 36 Discussion

Camille Paglia on Transgenderism and Cultural Collapse

The hosts play clips of social critic Camille Paglia discussing the rise of transgenderism as a "fashion" and a sign of late-stage cultural unraveling. Paglia argues that the movement is part of an assault on masculinity and expresses concern over the "bureaucratic machinery" making permanent medical changes easier for young people. The hosts relate this to the historical decline of the Greek and Roman empires.

camille paglia· androgyny· masculinity· sexual personae· cultural decay· gender reassignment

1:37:45 I found, came across on the face bags a new interview from someone we've played before. Her name is Camille Paglia. Oh yes, Camille Paglia I'll mention. Yes. Is one of my favorite writers. She's a lesbian out lesbian who is very anti-feminist And she's such a good writer that she can destroy anybody. I always was admiring, just this little slide...I always admired her writing as, because she is an essayist which I am and I've always admired how she pieced herself together to say this, I just wish I could write this well. I lost respect for after I discovered that these essays she writes takes one two months to write

1:38:36 Yes, anyone can probably put together a dynamite essay if you spend that much time. I liked my window of like when you should get something to get 45 minutes boom, you should be done but so that's the little side there right? Well i'm glad she's...I like her she's great! She has a new book out apparently which is the reason why she's promoting it um so she had this uh She was asked kind of like one question about transgenderism and what that means and how she views that. Now, luckily Christina as I said full-fledged representing member of the LGBT community has dated transgenders uh i think both ways male to female female to male likes men likes women whatever likes animals it's great

1:39:19 And I said, I want you to listen to this. She's making three points and I've broken up into those three points and I'd like you to tell me what you feel about it so... I'm gonna play these three points we can talk about it and I'll bring in her opinion Are you going do that with your little recorder device or tremolo? What is called? No, I am gonna let go What is called? This is the recorder Alright So will start off with her discussing transgenderism and she likens it really to, well a couple of things including issues with culture. I'm very concerned with this because i think that um... It's become a fashion okay? That the transgender definition has become kind of convenient label for young people who may simply feel alienated culturally for many other reasons

1:40:17 So that in the 1950s they might have become a beatnik, in the 1960's they might have become a hippie and taken mind-expanding drugs. And so today you're encouraged to think alienation is because you are not totally identifying with your particular inherited gender definition." So she's pretty much saying it's fashion It's fashionable now. That's an interesting definition and I'm glad that was born when I was born, if that is the case go on. Christina completely agrees she said yeah we're very confused she says this is just so easy to say I don't fit in particularly under the age of 18 kids really really there's too much facilitation

1:41:05 And we'll get to that in a moment. But definitely, she said it's totally fashion. It's something that people reach to very quickly and it's being encouraged now my favorite part of her thesis Which Christine also had some interesting things to say about. So I'm very concerned about this, I think that the collaboration of the bureaucratic machinery with it has to do with the assault on masculinity Ah, OK. You see gender doesn't really exist? It's not really polarity? I mean everything is all about expanding women's rights but also terminating men and defining men out of existence. Masculinity is by definition toxic. Masculine doesn't exist. And you see this is the proof of that. Now all my studies in my book Sexual Personae began as a dissertation at Yale Graduate School on androgyny. I've always been fascinated to the subject of androgyny and that's what

1:42:03 sexual personia is. I explored it in history, but the more I explored it, I realized that historically this movement toward androgyny occurs in late phases of culture as a civilization starting to unravel and you can find again and again through history In the Greek art, you can see it happening. All of a sudden there's a kind of sculptures of handsome nude young men athletes that used to be very robust in the archaic period suddenly begin to seem like wet noodles towards the end and that people who live in such periods are late phase of culture

1:42:48 Whether it's the Hellenistic era, whether it's the Roman Empire. Whether its the Mauve decade of Oscar Wilde in 1890s. Whether it's Weimar Germany People who live at such times feel that they're very sophisticated. They are cosmopolitan. Homosexuality heterosexuality so what anything goes and so on But from the perspective of historical distance, you can see that it's a culture that no longer believes in itself. And then what you invariably get are people who are convinced of the power of heroic masculinity on the edges, whether they're the vandals and the Huns or whether they are the barbarians of ISIS. You see them starting to mass on the outsides of the culture and that's what we have right now. That there is a tremendous and rather terrifying disconnect between the infatuation with the transgender movement in our own culture and what's going on out there. And so I mean that's why I'm concerned. I feel it's ominous

1:43:51 Now, a couple things. One when I hear her talk is no wonder she takes two months to put something together. I don't know if she's an Adderall or whatever by Vance or he's tripping. She wasn't that bad before. She just got where she's old. So I think that she's made very, very good points here. And we...I think that we discussed her previously in the context of cultural collapse. One of the signs is this type of everything's okay everyone can screw anybody homosexuality heterosexuality transgenderality whatever it is hey it's all good but the war on men totally fits in here and Christina was like oh yeah Oh totally The whole idea she said is we don't want men anymore

1:44:38 And that's not her personally speaking, but she says that is without a doubt the idea. Especially and she's removing men from the equation where men become women and women become men but they become men but rarely do they go for any type of sex reassignment surgery it's also very complicated and difficult. And she says ultimately we're all just going to be a bunch of bikers with vaginas was literally her quote. And she doesn't necessarily like it, but she says you know she actually referenced some study. There are a number of animals that can procreate without a male and there's a I read this study there's a type of gnat or flea i think it is flea

1:45:22 And it can procreate with a male or without. The only thing is currently the offspring that is procreated without a male have about 50% chance of living, they're just weaker so maybe we're lucky for a little while once they figure out they don't need us anymore They'll want us just for the strongness of the children we reproduce. But she said, without a doubt that is happening removing masculinity from everything in culture and she said it went so fast daddy I says when did you really feel open about talking about this stuff? And other people say two years ago it was just boom all of a sudden they just took off like crazy and she says and its social media It's the regular media and she says coming next toys

1:46:08 Says the toys are going to be filled with transgender crap. Third part... Well, you can't get a cowboy in Indian set up anymore. You can't buy cap guns. No all of it is true war men and she says it's going really really fast and part of that and that's the third and final part of this three-part series is because of the machine that has setup for this so take into account this culture is moving this way, there's a war on men. Children are confused... Oh don't you mind expanding drugs? You're just confused you're not right in your body we can take care of ya." I question whether the transgender choice is indeed genuine and every single case but again what concerns me is when well-meaning adults believe that they are helping people by

1:47:02 by making easier some permanent change in the body from which there is no going back. For example, Brown University one of the elite Ivy League schools in the United States put sex reassignment surgery on its student insurance program so that they can get a sex change in college. I thought oh my lord! Okay? I feel that's evil because to young people today facing an uncertain job market when it says people who are questioning their gender while they're at Brown University I suddenly feel, well it's like economically a better judgment for me to move now on this rather than to wait till I don't have a job and live in my parents' basement. So actually the adult community trying to be understanding is, I think, involved in possibly making a permanent change in someone's life that could have tragic consequences.

1:47:56 And there, I think another good point is made. This is something Christina said quite clearly said no one under 18 should be able to do this. She's had she's worked with many confused kids and she said it's really dangerous as she believes a lot of kids are getting reassignment surgery and they may regret it later on. And it's because of this big machine that's exactly what we heard with this kid. It's like you know now there was no necessary talk of gender reassignment, but still the machine is...this is all part of there's no losers. There are no winners. Hold your hand and tell a secret everyone's okay you'll be fine but the machine is big it's on you know it's free she says in the Netherlands if you're transgendered and you're under 21

CHAPTER 21 / 36 Discussion

Atrazine Chemical Exposure and Environmental Feminization

The discussion shifts to the environmental impact of the chemical Atrazine. Referencing the work of scientist Tyrone Hayes, the hosts discuss how the herbicide has been shown to turn male frogs into females. They speculate on the potential feminizing effects of such chemicals on the human population and criticize the EPA for failing to regulate these toxins effectively.

atrazine· epa· herbicide· feminization· frogs· tyrone hayes

1:48:49 You can get free hormones, free reassignment surgery and money to stay at home while you're getting your shit together. Timecode. So think of it! Oh I'm confused... Shoot man, I was confused about the world when I was 18 then all of a sudden well because this is what your problem is and here's how you fix it. It's free and you can be cool. I'm not completely subscribing to this I'm just telling you what I'm hearing. As Camille's got this thing, you know, seeing the society and all of us we haven't been around that long. I'm attributing this and I'll bring out the clips. This is one of the promise clips, one of the promise clips, you always premise clips in every bring them. The promised clips on atrazine which i think has been poisoning the American public for about their length of time there's been a number of interesting trends that I've noticed because of the poisoning of the food supply

1:49:49 One of them was the use of... growth hormone in steer meat that got into the meat. And we had a whole slew of people, and they're all about the same age there. They were probably in their 30s now. They all came at the same time, all these tall women, buncha women are all six foot and higher. The whole thing with women's basketball came along thanks to these women. But that was because the food supply poisoned with a growth hormone during the era when these kids were young and they were eating this meat, which has been banned since. The latest poisoning besides the lead poisoning that seems to be going around and now it's being found in Oakland

1:50:35 is atrazine, which is a herbicide insecticide whatever one of the two that has been studied by a guy over at the University of California. A black guy who's a very good scientist very well known and Ecclesiastes indicated he'd discuss it. He found that this is the one that Alex Jones was talking about frogs being turned into The frogs, male frogs turn into female frogs because of this chemical. For 20 plus years they've had glow in the dark dogs you can buy that are part jellyfish! That one? No, the ones that... Frogs are turning into girl frogs boy frogs and the girl frog something like that it's one of them yeah that's a good one though and

1:51:22 So this stuff, and it is still in the market because they have decided to mix too much money. This guy discovered that it also may have an effect on the human sexuality of America or humans as banned in Europe. And it has this effect of turning men... Feminizing men mostly. That's what it does most- This was also said of plastic bottles? Yeah, plastic bottles I don't think has the impact of this stuff. This atrazine stuff is really powerful and it gets in the food supply really easily even though it's not supposed to but it does. It gets into the food and water supply and I think a lot people are aware some of these toxins that are in their water supply thats why they use Brita and Zerowater. There's a reason those things are so popular out of the blue they never used to be when I was kid

1:52:16 And so I think there's some...I think we've been poisoning the public. And I think eventually this will come out, and this guy did all of his studies showed all the research they shut him down! The guy was shut down it was and then he was they decided to smear him. The clips will reveal all that. Now which clip is this John? It's the Atrazine Clips actually sent them to you sometime ago. I know but i'm looking for atrazine I can't find anything under atrazine what crazy name could have given the clip It would have to, that's the only thing I would've called it. A-T-R-A-Z-I-N-E huh? Atrazine. I don't even have anything under zine and i know we kept these clips because you talked about them but they must be something else Well either that or its not coming up properly for whatever reason... I'll run these clips on Sunday for sure cause now this became a topic! And im gonna write it down And I will discuss some more but do have some thoughts on this

1:53:15 Camille Paglia concept that there were end of times, but I'm not a big end-of-times believer which is why I don't like the basic thesis or that it's just end of times. And your daughter hit it right in fact the Greek and Roman era where this hermaphrodism was a big deal this wasn't something to happen over two years she's noticing it really quick and that's typical poisoning food poisoning being poisoned as you take lead tainted water it takes about you know a couple years. You're talking like that yeah, maybe I'm back here an idiot so that I'm not buying that part of it at all. I think we're being poisoned by

1:53:56 by our big pharma, big chemical. The EPA has done nothing as you can tell what would happen in Flint Michigan about the lead where's the EPA? The EP does nothing about fracking water. The EPA is they do a bunch of stuff to keep people from starting companies and they don't know that are against coal which is... Well based on what we expect the Trump administration to do were all going to be transgender pretty soon because the EPA will be gone Well, I don't think the EPA being there or being gone is...I think that local government should do more and that the EPA was superseding them which i think was the real problem because all states have an Air Resources Board. And they do what they do when I think they're much better at it than the EPA. It was lucky enough to work with both the EPA and the Air Resources Board of California. And I could tell you then in terms of intelligence

1:54:44 The local is the most intelligent, their state is less intelligent and the EPA is stupid. But now back to this there's a couple of things that are I think genuinely of interest to Tom boy girl, I think it's like a case in point We used to have boys clubs, the Boys Clubs of America. And it got to the point where there's too many little girls... That's for kids. Little girls didn't get that they had their own girl's club but they call it a Boys and Girls Club now and they have joint operations. I don't see...and there's no equivalent to the Cub Scouts in the Girl Scouts, I don't think unless the Girl Scouts just go younger? It was the Brownies, the Brownies. Oh, the Brownies right, right, the Brownies. There are brownies

1:55:32 I just think they should combine the brownies because this is not a sexual issue they have to worry about. I think it'd be much more fun to be a Cub Scout and do work with the brownies, the brownies and the Cub Scouts that can socialize, they can do other things... And the brownies could prepare the Cub Scouts for the ultimate demise of masculinity? I think there would not be an issue and I think that's the way to solve this problem in the girl can be a brownie or be a cub scout who cares! I'm not that issue. I think the Boy Scouts at some point are going to have to combine the Brownies and the Cub Scouts, even though they're over-overriding organizations Girl Scouts of America and Boy Scouts of America do not think interconnect. I don't know. I don't know either but... But I thought it was interesting commentary. I think we're being poisoned by our own people or maybe Russia's behind it

CHAPTER 22 / 36 Discussion

Obama Administration Expels 35 Russian Operatives

The Obama administration announces the expulsion of 35 Russian intelligence operatives and the imposition of sanctions on Russian agencies in response to alleged election hacking. The hosts review the New York Times report on the "sweeping" actions and the upcoming release of a joint analytic report from the FBI and DHS, which they dismiss as lacking concrete evidence.

barack obama· russian operatives· sanctions· dnc hack· fbi· dhs

1:56:32 I've got information man. New shit has come to light! Yeah, well speaking of... BOOTED!!! This just came in finally we have the word US punishes Russia for election hacking from The New York Times here's what we're gonna do. Oh wait a minute so you're telling me that they've got the evidence now? Well it gets better than that Washington, the Obama administration struck back at Russia on Thursday for its efforts to influence the 2016 election. Ejecting 35 Russian intelligence operatives from the United States and imposing sanctions on Russia's two leading intelligence services including four top officers in the military intelligence unit that White House believes ordered the attacks on the Democratic National Committee and other public political organizations

1:57:23 in a sweeping set of announcements. Sweeping? The United States was also expected to release evidence linking the cyber attacks to computer systems used by Russian intelligence, taken together... ...the actions would amount to the strongest American response ever taken to a state-sponsored cyber attack aimed at the United States." I don't think we've ever done anything. But here we go! The Obama administration also planned to release a detailed quote joint analytic report from the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Department of Homeland Security that is clearly based in part on the intelligence gathered by the National Security Agency. A more detailed report on the intelligence ordered by President Obama will be published in the next three weeks, though much of the detail especially evidence collected from implants in Russian computer systems tap conversations and spies is expected to remain classified."

1:58:13 That's right. So they're not going to tell us anything no and it was classified about a joint analytic report It's it's a lie Joint analytic report how about findings conclusion? Executive summary yeah, okay well that kind of proves the point bullcrap bull crap bull crap I see I want to play you I have two clips But I want to play your riots in the mall because I did catch my attention Riot's in the mall. This is an interesting situation and they say there are no connections, this is the NBC report I also didn't bring it to you. I have a CNN version which will be interesting Ok let's play the NBC then let's play the CNN then I'll voice what I... because RT report was a little long winded but I don't think that I have it They do have a piece of information that I want to throw in

CHAPTER 23 / 36 Discussion

Post-Christmas Mall Riots and Social Media Coordination

A series of coordinated brawls and riots at shopping malls across the United States on the day after Christmas is examined. While mainstream reports blame "social media hysteria," the hosts cite RT's reporting that specific Facebook posts invited people to watch fights at set times. They discuss the potential for these incidents to be used to justify increased surveillance or to damage the retail economy.

mall brawls· aurora· social media· facebook· flash mobs· chaos

1:57:23 in a sweeping set of announcements. Sweeping? The United States was also expected to release evidence linking the cyber attacks to computer systems used by Russian intelligence, taken together... ...the actions would amount to the strongest American response ever taken to a state-sponsored cyber attack aimed at the United States." I don't think we've ever done anything. But here we go! The Obama administration also planned to release a detailed quote joint analytic report from the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Department of Homeland Security that is clearly based in part on the intelligence gathered by the National Security Agency. A more detailed report on the intelligence ordered by President Obama will be published in the next three weeks, though much of the detail especially evidence collected from implants in Russian computer systems tap conversations and spies is expected to remain classified."

1:58:13 That's right. So they're not going to tell us anything no and it was classified about a joint analytic report It's it's a lie Joint analytic report how about findings conclusion? Executive summary yeah, okay well that kind of proves the point bullcrap bull crap bull crap I see I want to play you I have two clips But I want to play your riots in the mall because I did catch my attention Riot's in the mall. This is an interesting situation and they say there are no connections, this is the NBC report I also didn't bring it to you. I have a CNN version which will be interesting Ok let's play the NBC then let's play the CNN then I'll voice what I... because RT report was a little long winded but I don't think that I have it They do have a piece of information that I want to throw in

1:59:15 And now to that breaking news here in New York, a security scare at Trump Tower late today forcing an evacuation. A suspicious bag triggered the panic but a senior police official says it later turned out to be filled with toys President-elect Trump was not there at the time he remains at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida up. And safety also a major concern in malls across the country after series of massive brawls erupted the day after Christmas security has been stepped up at more than a dozen mall's for violence since shoppers running for the exits as NBC's Gabe Gutierrez explains some authorities believe social media is partly to blame again

1:59:58 And again, they seem to explode out of nowhere. Looked like people were throwing punches fighting It was just a huge mob of people. Brawls at malls across America ranging from minor melees to mass evacuations In Aurora Illinois eight teenagers have been charged No one really knows what caused it. It was just two girls started first and then other people got involved too. Chaos at more than 15 shopping centers in a dozen states, this New Jersey mall pandemonium police and riot shields storming the food court. Witnesses say a person shouted gun after someone slammed the chair during a fight This video from Connecticut shows an outnumbered officer trying to control the crowd They just kind of started yelling and then started pushing each other

2:00:43 In Fort Worth, Texas multiple fights with more than a hundred teenagers. In Ohio false reports of shots fired near Cleveland no weapons found at another mall in Chattanooga Tennessee police say two people set off fireworks sparking up panic I heard the pop-pop all of a sudden just a tsunami of people running, jumping over tables and screaming. I have shoe marks on my jacket actually from people stepping on me." Shopper Jim Tanner says it was complete confusion in an age of mass shootings. Folks are just more attuned to every little incident that happens. Authorities don't believe the incidents are connected

2:01:21 Though some blame social media for turning minor disturbances into major hysteria. Social media is going to be the death of this country and they cause more of a panic than is necessary Tonight, the mall's are back open with stepped up security Here in Chattanooga police say that fireworks were set off to cover-up a smash and grab robbery Now the search is on for the thieves Meanwhile this mall is packed I have two CNN reports. The first one was similar to this, although very different in the discussion about social media. I think the second one which is a lot shorter still picks up what CNN is trying to communicate to us. Sarah so are law enforcement officials worried about more of these kinds of incidents happening going forward? They certainly are and they hope that this is not a trend that is being started but they

2:02:14 can't pinpoint whether or not there was one specific incident that created all of the rest. In other words, is there something in social media that they can find but they are certainly scouring through it? We should mention this last bit here you know with all the things happening with soft targets terrorism or mass shootings Really, people are reacting in a very big way to some of these things. When they see people running and screaming they automatically think it has something to do with either terrorism or that there's a shooter in place and that's what caused some people to end up getting hurt in a stampede jump. The other one actually had a little bit more like could it be coordinated? What is going on could have been coordinated? It might! It's very strange. Could it be coordinated

2:02:54 It's a coordinate. We don't know if it's coordinated." It's a three-minute clip, so I don't wanna bore you with it but that's basically what they're saying is could be coordinated? And I think they're gonna come out with something but I'd like to hear your analysis first. Well, I don't have much of an analysis except what RT had...they had the little bit of information that these guys don't wanna reveal, I'm guessing and makes sense to me because I used to be in high school once And when you're in high school and once in a while rumor goes around the entire school. Fight, fight, fight! There's gonna be a fight between this guy and that guy... You know these two guys hate each other they're gonna have a fight so you gather around and fight. You'd watch the fight and you see these guys as you saw some dynamite fights I mean if don't mind seeing people getting all bloody

2:03:39 According to RT, the Aurora event began with a Facebook posting about a fight at at the mall that's gonna take place at a specific time, and it apparently skyrocketed. It virally went all over the Aurora area and the place was packed with kids wanting to watch the fight. And I guess these rival schools, the whole thing broke into a melee. Now why was that left out of these other stories from the networks? I don't know maybe they don't wanna give people ideas of doing oh, that's a good idea let's just because they would do that. Facebook started- What they didn't show

2:04:18 And I did a little bit of looking. They didn't really go after any hashtags like hashtag mall, I liked the brawl at the mall that was kind of cool. I snuck in that report you had and to have this all starting at the same time. Sounds like one type of Facebook post, you just replace the name of the mall, replace the name of the school and everyone started doing that. Yeah. That makes sense to me and it makes total sense because Sadly to say, this generation just has nothing better to do. And they need excitement in their lives! There is nothing...they don't have clubs to go to, they got nothing. These kids...this is like a movie that was called- if anyone can find this old 1970 movie called Over the Edge I'd recommend you track it down and watch it It's about a suburban area where you have a bunch of dip shit cops time code

2:05:14 that are ruining it for all the kids and the town rebels. It's a very interesting movie, I think it pertains today. I wanted to back up the idea that this thing is gonna get out of control by social media. I have a clip which is not about riots but it's pretty much the same thing just listen to the information given to you in this social media one million clip The party was only supposed to be for family and friends, but tens of thousands descended on a small town in Mexico Monday for a teenage girl's traditional 15th birthday celebration after the invitation video was accidentally posted publicly by her father. Well it quickly went viral with more than 1 million people RSVPing and clearly many of them showed up

2:06:01 Yeah, well that's social media for you. Of course they have that in Holland it happens all the time with parties and then you know a thousand people show up and trash the guys house his parents are gone Yes I know That is does anybody... You can't trust these kids anymore No But yeah I know The Trashed House there's something funny about it but yeah that can happen There's something about the way CNN was positioning it though Now if I were to say this is bad actors, and it's obviously very easy to do. It's not hard. This is a good campaign If I were Soros, I'd be jealous like oh man what a great idea! I could have done that you make everyone afraid of the kids make them afraid of the mall You can't destroy America quicker than making people afraid of the mall That will bring us down They'll bring us to our knees in a week if we stop shopping So I'm thinking the obvious strategy is to blame BLUETOOTH

CHAPTER 24 / 36 Discussion

No Agenda Meetup at Citizen in Beverly Hills

John Dvorak reports on a successful No Agenda meetup held at "Citizen" in Beverly Hills. He describes the diverse group of attendees, including a defense attorney and a Delta flight attendant. The event featured a special drink menu with titles like "Blame Russia" and "No Agenda," and the hosts emphasize the open, non-argumentative nature of the community.

beverly hills· citizen· mixology· thomas keller· bouchon· meetup

2:06:54 Yes, Russians the Russians the Russians are riling up our children Come let's mix where John Podesta walks with kids. Oh I mean pizzas in his mitts food and on the reds I Love this short version too you watch put it in the book Okay, well blame the Russians. Well now which brings us to a segue since that I think segments done about the mixer the mixer Yes, the meetup this mixer Hello 1920s John C Devorah calling for the mixer

2:07:35 So there was a, it was at a little place in Beverly Hills right on one of the main streets and across from Bouchon. And we had a great group of people. I mean that was just a lot of interesting people all racist. They were all racists? They're all racist. Racists is racism. Yeah. I mean we had uh, we have a black house. Oh wow! How many people were there? I estimated the actual head count was 42. Oh, that's a nice meetup there may have been 50 and you said there was a black listener did you say? There is my African-American. There is by one guy no there was I think it was maybe a couple but the one guy who was like this he was everybody had screwy jobs everybody with a couple of exceptions a couple students for example they don't have screwy jobs couple UCLA kids and

2:08:27 But this guy had a job of being an on-the-road, all the time notary working for kind of a title company or escrow company. So he's listening to the show all the time because he's driving around getting people to sign stuff. We had Adam, the defense attorney A famous defense attorney that handles a lot of cases. Really? We have a defense attorney in our group? Apparently one that's good. Oh, did you get his number? That would be my one phone call I had. I said to ask the person give me your car just in case he says he said no don't get arrested. OK so that's easy way out So um He's got a murder case coming up does all the drug busts You might be good at it

2:09:15 I don't know if he's can practice in Texas, in Texas when I'm arrested. Probably not. He actually took a group of guys including the stewardess. We had a stewardess that was on Delta who says that she's always on the lookout for you because she knows your flight Delta all the time does she fly international? Yeah, I think she seems to be like one of those girlfriend we should coordinate Bump me up in business. And he, Adam took the group of a couple UCLA kids and they went over to Bushon because he had this tip, he's a gourmet foodie and he says on Mondays for people in the Los Angeles basin you might want to pay attention

2:10:02 On Mondays, Thomas Keller apparently is put into play at the Bouchon restaurant which is the guy from French Laundry who has his chain of restaurants called Bouchons. Apparently some fancy chicken a fancy, just like one of these crazy Brasson or one of these hard to get blue legged chickens or whatever. Yeah it's the Bluefoot, the Bluefoot. The Bluefoots and they are something and he makes a fried chicken dish only for Mondays for people in the know I don't even know if it's on the menu And so that was good tip? I thought so but that was good time would have gone

2:10:40 Let's see what else there was. There was, it was just a really outstanding crowd we had a guy who has got contacts in Ukraine he told me that uh...we were the only ones he knows of that is on the right track in our analysis of the situation. Oh! That's nice to know In fact, we didn't have too many people with anything to say now you're off. We had MPs, we had armies but we had people in the military, one of the local cop from Ventura County. It was just an outrageously good group of people I can remember everybody but when we do the donation segments a few will get mentioned. I think a lot of them donated and- You had a whole...I saw photos

2:11:22 I love photos that people take with you because you always have the your camera strung around your neck like a Japanese tourist. Yeah, it was a very good look for you uh-huh and There were photos of a special drink menu Yes, now the drink menu was put together by Buzzkill Jr. and the bartender who apparently is one of those guys the bartender of this place I mean a mixologist She's a mixologist it's a place called Citizen which was appropriate if you think about it Yeah of course Hey citizen And we, they worked on three drinks. One was the blame Russia which had no vodka in it but tequila so you could blame Russia. Then there's the No Agenda drink which JC eventually said was a little bit too strong

2:12:13 People were getting plastered on that. And then the in the morning, so there were three drinks that were special for that occasion and it was a good event. It was people stayed longer than I thought they would. And you had a good time? Yeah, we left about nine. How about Mimi and did she hang out with people? She talked to people? Oh no, Mimi was the expediter. She would see there'd be like... There's a couple of guys who is like your handler. No not for me. She was like, she'd see two people standing around looking at each other and I don't know if we have anything in common with these guys. There were two Hispanics that were there one more than the... She was like the greeter? She's like Telly Savalas No no no let me explain it wasn't that either. She would see these couple of guy saying why aren't you mixing

2:13:01 I don't know if we got anything in common with these people. And he said, no you all know agenda people have the same mindset and they so just go talk to anybody and it was true. And so everybody was talking to everybody eventually but me would grab people that were on the periphery that looked like they were uncomfortable Oh good. It kind of push him into this guy Yeah. Kinda thing. Good. Well good. And you had a good time? Like you had a good time I did have a good time and I thought it was very entertaining event. I did have a note from Adam Kay, the lawyer which is kind of interesting because I read during the donation segment next time but I wanna read in now because there's this paragraph in here that I liked.

2:13:45 And I'll read the rest of this on Sunday, but this one he says. It was wonderful to sit at a table with like-minded thinkers enjoying a hearty meal and not having to defend a stance or have a political quote unquote argument. Beautiful, that's exactly what it is we're good the no agenda community is open! That's exactly...that's what I like the most we're open

CHAPTER 25 / 36 Discussion

Final Donation Round and Knighting Ceremony

The hosts complete the donation list for the episode, including international contributions from Taiwan, Slovenia, and Canada. They perform a formal knighting ceremony for three producers, including "Sir Pat the Overtaxed," who donated before a new carbon tax took effect in Alberta. The segment concludes with the traditional "hookers and blow" proclamation.

knighthood· carbon tax· taiwan· slovenia· value for value· ring ceremony

2:14:29 And that's the result. Yeah, of course exploring everybody like each other I didn't see we've yet to do any of these things with a fistfight breaking out well No no we haven't even come close really hmm you think with 40 p40 plus people that sitting with no Well when they do the next meet up at the mall, it'll be fun Do something on the Facebook to save you. Exactly! Patrick Sullivan in Sturgeon County, Alberta Canada. 1-2-3-4-5 Deborah King Hold on hold on hold on hold on Patrick Sullivan this donation brings me to knighthood I'd better get it off before January first when the Alberta carbon tax starts and i'll have no money to give please Knight me sir Pat the overtaxed Saving the world by reverting to the stone age by taking my taxing carbon dioxide Thank you and your ceremony is coming up sir. I didn't know that was taking place then that's terrible yeah

2:15:43 Well, that's the whole thing. That's the only reason they came up with the climate change deals is to take more taxes money. Yeah. Money. Deborah King in Salem, Oregon saving the poor people in Africa John who we have destroyed. They have no chance. We've given them no chances. Yes. Deborah King and Salem, Oregon one two three four five Jeffrey long in Creighton Creighton Nebraska one oh one he had a note Just thanks, thanks for the shout out to Sir Father Fish for reminding me not to be a boner. So thanks Sir Father Fish or Fish, Sir Fish Richard Tilly in Pingtung County TW is Taiwan I believe? Yes 100 Ian Trimble 100

2:16:42 Donald Dorsey in Pittsburgh, New York. Dorsey sent in a long handwritten... Not handwritten but a type note that was... Let's see if there is anything on here I want to read. I've been listening for less than half year so he has only been... He's newbie. But I'm strong supporter of what you're doing even if my donation so far amounted only this being the first one enclosed. Oh okay this I have to read now I realize where it went. Well I wonder where this note went? I was once a professional newspaper man for Gannett and then a freelance journalist back when...

2:17:19 when a respect for balance and factual truth was still a fundamental part of being a journalist. I am now a ghost writer, blogger and moderately successful painter. Fine arts not housing even though i can paint an entire apartment in the afternoon just like Der Fuehrer. He has this quote... two quotes! What has become of reporting and the media over the past decade is disturbing and disheartening I voted for Obama in 2008 and voted against him in 2012, partly because of what was happening in and through the media. In parents he says what happened to the Justice Department and IRS under Obama? Was as disturbing as what was going on under Nixon and yet East Coast media simply ignored it

2:18:03 The way it circled the wagons around Hillary during the height of the Benghazi controversy killed my waning tolerance for what I'd been seeing in Washington and in the mainstream press. It's only gotten worse! It is encouraging that your voices generate enough support with a value-for-value model that this podcast appears to be secure for now. We need both you, and more like you attempting to speak impartially about how what used to be called the Fourth Estate has become a propaganda machine." I'm overdue for a de-douching and also to get Putin followed by a thanks Obama with a we. He'd be very pleased he didn't know whether 100s never call out probably not

2:18:42 He doesn't want anonymity so you're free to identify me by preferred day from Rochester Until I earned my desired title of Lord of the absent mind On keeping on he says. I thought that was a very good note. Yeah, let me give him the karma and stuff he asked for hold on a second You've got karma I want to talk about that note at some point in the future, and so far as what needs to be done to the mainstream media. OK, but not now. No name 17 person known eighty nine dollars Nicholas von Stridland in Hong Kong. Strydland. Strydland. Okay he's a Dutchman and he needs a deducing first time. You've been deduced

2:19:37 88, 88. These are the last of the laggards of the 88-88. Wait, you have Dame 17 I think first? Yeah, he said Dame 17. Oh, I'm sorry yeah then we have my mistake yep that's 88-88 so yeah Douglas Pilgrim 8888 Evan Rubington Rubinton Rubinton Rubinton That's it! 88-88 these are all 88-88s David Richie 88-88 Sir Roadwolf in North Tohono O'odham New York Joe Campagna in Ontario, California. I think he was at the meetup. Christopher Gray in Covington, Louisiana. A couple of people came from out-of-state. Doc Monda in parts unknown. James P Rogers in Wilmington, Delaware and that's the end to that.

2:20:27 Maryanne Sabia, $85. Joshua Brickman, 88.88. Boobs! Boobs! Boobs! Boobs! A long jingle for one boob. Yeah there's one boob. Marco Strauss... Sorry Marco you're not really a boob but you gave the boob donation. Ithaca New York Alexander Schulzberger and Acra De Acra de is either Deutschland. I'd say Delaware Oh, Delaware maybe on Delaware That's 69, 69. Stephen Hutto in Denver Colorado 60-60 Derby Dyke 5678 Maxim Rudolf in Ljubljana Slovenia 5533 Josh McDonald 55 double nickels on the dime Ryan Teper and by the way Maxim has a birthday call out of some sort I got it let's get a complex reason for whatever he gave

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CHAPTER 26 / 36 Discussion

The Pin Jacket for Homeless Payments in Amsterdam

The city of Amsterdam introduces "Pin Jackets" for homeless individuals, allowing passersby to donate one euro via contactless RFID cards. The hosts criticize this as a step toward a total cashless society that allows the government to track and control all financial transactions. Adam Curry shares a personal story of having his bank accounts frozen in the Netherlands as a warning against digital-only currency.

amsterdam· cashless society· rfid· homeless· pin jacket· digital currency

2:25:30 when you've received it. Oh, you know what I wanted to do today? Was a little bit of... Phone! Shmive phone! Hey good, we got a little bit of tech news here for everybody and i wanted to start off with a new development in the war on cash and uh but we were talking about the problem You have my attention I know you do We were talking about the issue, my personal issue when there is no more cash. How can I give cash to the homeless people? Right and you routinely give them five bucks because I've adopted by the way yeah and I don't discriminate so you ask me for money here you go because how can I qualify if someone needs it or not

2:26:22 However, this will be a problem. I think my initial answer was hey man give me your square so i can swipe you five bucks but in the Netherlands where cash is really on the out there are stores there we can only pay with your pin and no longer with cash well in Amsterdam the government is trying something new for the homeless it's called the Pin Jacket And it is a coat that you put on and it has a big badge on it. This is great, yeah? A big badge and because a lot of these cards in the Netherlands have RFID you can just tap it so it'll probably work with Apple Pay and you just tap the person's jacket with your card and now you've given them money. Okay, let's begin with the logic of this and the feasibility. Let's do feasibility

2:27:26 First of all, they have to be wearing the jacket. Now can't they just give them like a wallet or something? I guess that could get stolen or just maybe a button... No because they're wearing the jacket and it's integrated with the jacket so you'd have to steal the jacket in order to take it which is harder to do yeah So where did they get the jacket? The government! The government is giving the homeless these very nice jackets big down jacket So you're nice and warm. That's nice, and each time you hit your pin card against the RFID tap it it's one euro as there's even a little display in it

2:28:02 So it's got a little number. So we're talking about homeless people wearing some sort of device that has got a number that crops up, credits. It'll show you that you added a Euro. It's like one of those parking machines. It's like the movie Brazil! It's like a lot of things... none of it really good actually Yeah, and people just... No one's outraged by this by the way. Oh great idea! Great! What about the homeless? Are they outraged by it? I'm sure they like to jacket. They're getting a free jacket sure

2:28:39 Has anyone passed a rumor all around saying that this is all GPS's for population control? No, I haven't heard any of that yet. Crowd control? You got a GPS and they know where every prom is? And on your statement when you've donated your euro on your statement it'll say thanks from Carla whoever was wearing the jacket thanks for giving me a euro It's unbelievable Really Yeah yeah really Don't you think cash would be better just to give them some money? Here's a couple bucks. Yes, but it's not about controlling the homeless with the GPS jack is about controlling the non-homeless by having you use digital money get really used to it and then when you're not playing by the rules we'll just turn off your money You know this never comes up in the conversation when people talk about this

2:29:31 And I don't understand why it never comes up in the conversation. You can listen to all these tech nerd shows, and they never bring this up." Well no because we're not on them anymore! What if somebody takes a dislike from you and decides just cancel all your money? I have had something similar happen but yes... What happened to you? All my bank accounts were frozen in the Netherlands They had a disliking of me. They felt that I was, had a big mouth and they said well you know just to make sure we're going to investigate you but to make sure you don't do anything we're gonna lock up all your money. I could not get more than 100 euros out of the machine and they kept it locked up for months. Months? Six months yeah What's to prevent them from just stealing your money Nothing! I've had that happen in the United States where also my money was transferred out of my account this happened in the 90s

2:30:31 And there was a mix-up. It was one of those deals... Ah, that's the third item! The mix up? Yeah, the mix up. Which can easily happen and it happens to everybody especially when they're dealing with American banks. Yeah so what happened in my case is And I, this was in the nineties and mortgages were already being sold. And I had sent him my mortgage check and it wherever whatever happened to never arrived or was cashed by the wrong company. It was very strange. And I didn't know anything about that. Like wow, this, this check went around the world But I guess they had then said, you know, they put all kinds of liens and stuff on me. And then before I knew it there was tax implications than that went. I tried to get money on the way to MTV in the morning and I couldn't get anything out or go into bank. And they say, oh, it's been transferred to this strange account number with a lot of zeros in it. And it was that the government had just transferred to write out 1990 91 maybe well, I can see why you're against this idea. Yeah.

CHAPTER 27 / 36 Discussion

Identity Theft Risks in Used Smartphones and Laptops

An NBC "Rossen Reports" segment warns consumers about the dangers of selling used electronics without properly wiping data. The report demonstrates how easily social security numbers, bank details, and private photos can be recovered from devices. The hosts provide additional advice, such as physically drilling through old hard drives to ensure data destruction.

jeff rossen· nbc news· identity theft· factory reset· hard drive· data security

2:31:36 I've had it happen. I know exactly what's going to happen and i have to say, I am...I love Apple Pay. There is no doubt the ease of it but I always have cash in my pocket always mainly for the homeless people. Well, I don't like any of it Apple pay included No! Of course not. All right? Well, I have a tech news piece. I just thought this was interesting I don't know why they did this piece, what the deal was. It was on NBC, it was very elaborate and this was a whole segment...I could've recorded most of it about resetting your phone. Apparently people are selling used phones and stuff that is being used as a very easy way to do an identity theft thing. And so NBC actually did a really...I thought this was a public service?

2:32:32 who it may have been a native ad, I don't know who it'd be for but it would seem like a public service to me and this is the uh this little long clip. I guess it's couple minutes there's resetting your phone and laptop good information I thought back now with a warning for everyone who got a new smartphone or laptop this holiday as you switch on those new devices be aware of all the ultra personal information old devices you're getting rid of. Even if you think you've deleted it all, complete strangers could still use it to access a treasure trove of sensitive data. NBC's national investigative correspondent Jeff Rawson and his team share what you need to know to protect your information in tonight's Rawson Reports

2:33:13 We store everything on our phones and laptops. E-mails, texts, even shopping and banking information When I delete stuff off this thing...I assume it's gone All of that information is still there easily accessible by anyone even thieves We want to see for ourselves so we buy dozens of used cellphones online laptops too. We bring them to be analyzed this would be a identity thieves gold mine, this laptop we bought for $75 giving us full access to the family we bought it from home address phone number

2:33:48 personal family pictures. That's scary! We found tax information right down to their bank routing numbers, even account numbers so who does it belong to? This suburban mom named Tracy I track her down. I want to show you all the things that we pulled off of your computer All my financial information My place of employment Social security numbers of your entire family Social Security numbers of everyone People can do some damage with that information. Yeah, think that's bad on this next device a cell phone belonging to Aria a college freshman we find 3,000 private text messages secret passwords to her student scholarship social media accounts and shopping bags Even when and where she goes to class We set up a meeting to tell her what we found scary

2:34:38 You can lose everything just from a phone because I have all my information on there. So how do you really wipe your devices clean? Let's show you, starting with the iPhone. I have one called up right here first thing is he hit settings right there. You come here to general once you hit that you scroll all the way down to the bottom. You see it says reset right there and you hit that then you want to look for this erase all content and settings you hit that And you get that magic phrase right there, erase iPhone. On Android devices some models want you to go into settings and encrypt the data then you want a factory reset here too You hit settings right there, you hit backup and reset scroll down to factory data reset, reset device

2:35:21 and your information is gone. As for laptops, experts say there is no factory reset so take the hard drive out before selling Jeff Rawson NBC News Salt Lake City I thought that was a reasonable little segment. Yes, and it flows nicely into my segment... And by the way just before we finish that if you take those hard disks out you can reuse them and put them in some sort of array or if you don't want to out there take a big drill. That's the way to do it! The drill through the drive. Drill into the thing and they're in good shape yes

CHAPTER 28 / 36 Discussion

Amazon Echo Privacy and Smart Meter Evidence in Murder Case

A murder investigation in Bentonville, Arkansas, involves a search warrant for Amazon Echo (Alexa) audio data. While Amazon initially resisted the warrant, the hosts point out that the real evidence came from a "smart" water meter, which showed high water usage during the time of the crime. They warn that the "Internet of Things" creates a digital trail that can be used by law enforcement for automated fines and surveillance.

alexa· amazon echo· bentonville· smart meter· privacy· search warrant

2:36:02 But of course, the overall point of this is that we leave our digital breadcrumbs everywhere. And this story cropped up and of course the focus of the story is the wrong focus. Amazon's popular home assistant Echo better known as Alexa was a bestseller this Christmas now police in Bentonville Arkansas hope Alexa can help solve a real-life whodunit But Amazon is saying no to a warrant seeking electronic data in the form of audio recordings, transcribed records text records from an echo inside a home where murder may have been committed. When you buy one of these things even if it's not on its own and And it's listening.

2:36:59 hot tubs. Murdered his co-worker Victor Collins, who was found strangled in Bates' hot tub. Bates who called 911 pled not guilty and is scheduled to go to trial next year His attorney says Bates has nothing to hide but this is an issue of privacy You should be able to do what you want your home And that's free from the view of public The view of police Tonight, Amazon tells NBC News it will not release customer information without a valid and binding legal demand properly served on us. Amazon objects to overbroad and otherwise inappropriate demands as a matter of course

2:37:40 The prosecutor says this is about justice. We have established probable cause and obtained a warrant from the judge to search this device, the same way we would search a person's cell phone we would search a person's home Tonight, a murder in Arkansas igniting the debate over privacy inside the home and if what's heard there can be used against you Okay couple of things about this story because this is what you'll hear on all the tech horny shows Okay, I wanted also have a couple of things to say about that story being poorly developed but going on first of all I've tested and

2:38:15 This thing does not send as far as I can tell from my test doesn't send anything until you've used the wake word You use the command bid the microphone or the recognition stops it sends it off for Parsing and it comes back with whatever is supposed to come back with there's nothing else going out As far as I know, there's nothing else being recorded on the device itself. But the real story is Not in this report but in the written report As police say, this guy Bates had several other smart home devices including a smart meter for his water. That piece of text shows that 140 gallons of water were used between 1am and 3 am the night Collins was found dead in the Bates' hot tub. Investigators alleged the water was used to wash away evidence of what happened off of the patio

2:39:07 So the real story here, and we've always had problems with the smart meters. But all of this Internet of Things technology is leaving you with all kinds of trails and things. And in this case The water meter is very, we have a problem with that in Austin already. People are getting fined without investigators going around seeing if you're watering your lawn at the wrong time no they just look at your meter and go whoa boy! You've used too much water here at this wrong time. You're getting a fine and they just get a fine in the mail which of course with the cashless society will be automatically deducted from your bank account. Right exactly and you wrapped it up

CHAPTER 29 / 36 Discussion

Twitter Verification Issues and Apple iOS 10 Bugs

The hosts discuss the lack of credibility in Twitter's verification system, citing the account of 7-year-old Bana Alabed in Aleppo. They also vent frustrations with Apple's recent software quality, specifically a bug in iOS 10's auto-capitalization that conflicts with third-party apps like WhatsApp, and battery life issues with the new MacBook Pro.

twitter· bana alabed· apple· ios 10· auto-capitalization· macbook pro

2:39:51 In one breath too. You wrapped it all around into one cute little bundle! Nice, huh? Yeah, outstanding And just one thing about Twitter... You rarely do the bundle Yeah I try About Twitter and being a media company and this verified thing Let me ask you a question So Bhana the 7 year old who's verified on twitter The seven year old from Aleppo Okay so now her mom continuously says I'm writing this. It's not her mom because the English is just above that and I have multiple Syrians, uh, boots on the ground verifying and it's not surprising but for Twitter i have a question if the seven year old is verified on twitter but her mom is posting your verified status means shit! It's not the kid posting its her mom verified is false. That's false

2:40:48 Fact check false. Seriously, think about that for a moment. I don't have to think about it. OK? I don't think about it at all. I don't care if you think about it thinking about it. Please don't show you no stinking badges. Don't think about it. Yeah, I got one more story. A tech tech story just to show you how lost the music businesses Universal Music Group recruited was this guy's name Ty Roberts as their new SVP and Chief Technology Officer. And so he is tasked with coming up with great ideas to save the music business, and he's saying on no it's going to change today a product is more like an API

2:41:34 As a fan, you should be able to talk to the computer server at Universal which serves you back the latest thing. A package of music information and here are some people talking about it...the lyrics and more! And he didn't just stop there. He didn't just stop there. Do you want to go on a virtual date with someone you've met across the internet inside a Peter Gabriel album? And walk around Peter Gabriel's world together? That kind of experience is going to be possible What what what a tool is? Unbelievable these guys are so lost yeah, yeah who wants to do that in the first place nobody wants to walk inside Peter Gabriel's album No work no. No not looking to do that And then finally it's fun to watch on the sidelines how Apple is try his freaking out You know I was looking at getting the new MacBook Pro

2:42:37 which I've been told to hold off on. I was told before Consumer Reports came out, they're saying the battery's no good varies between 19 hours and four I won One was that apparently the batteries are just terrible they crap out so they decided to take the amount of time left on The battery several it did the new fix on a thing is not to tell anybody how long the battery has left Yeah, there's but apparently there's also some some issues with the processor going wild and just running out of control Could happen yeah, but the inside word I have is it's all software. It's not hardware So we'll see they got a lot of my final gripe and this happened with the upgrade This is happening to wait how long many years went by before they came with this new one? Oh way too long oh Yeah Way too long you think they would have tested it thoroughly now This is the number one complaint course everyone's like what are you guys doing and we all know They're doing whatever they can do because Steve's dead And it's tough

2:43:37 It's hard without, you know... Without the iron fist of the asshole Steve Jobs. Because that is how he operated! And people complained about him but he got stuff done So here is something that has gone very wrong on the iPhone iOS 10 I think it started with one upgrade before this one They have this feature called auto-capitalization and its under keyboard settings so when you start a sentence The first letter is capitalized that is great. Right? When you do a period and you start a new sentence or just this period space capitalized, however many apps have decided to do this for you such as WhatsApp and I have spark email they want to do this for you And what happens it his pen it's counteracts somehow

2:44:39 And when the app is trying to make it capitalize, the iPhone goes oh no you don't and then it puts a lowercase. So there's this constant battle between apps which now you have to continuously watch your typing like do I have capitalization right? It's a huge bug! Huge bug Well, my advice is to turn off auto cap. I did and then you get then you get again if you get used to hitting the caps, you know the uppercase key Then you'll find that you're making lowercase on the apps that want to make an upper case It's a it's it's a whole UI issue That is I've really beneath Apple to run into this problem. I think Very stupid

CHAPTER 30 / 36 Discussion

Air Traffic Control Humor and Trump Force One

The show plays a recording of air traffic controllers in Palm Beach discussing "Trump Force One" (N757AF). The controllers joke about making "ATC great again" and taking photos of the plane. The hosts enjoy the "pilot humor" and the casual nature of the interaction.

air traffic control· trump force one· n757af· palm beach· aviation

2:45:25 But that's just my gripe. That's the least of your complaints. My life is pretty good. And that's it for tech news, and we're going to get on with this episode of Hard Life! Always nice to listen to air traffic control, who were very aware that this would eventually be put on the interwebs. You're going to listen to air traffic control sequencing aircraft making aircraft wait briefly so that November 757 Alpha Foxtrot can take off. That is also known as Trump Force One. So you know what we clearly hear when it gets clear in the next five minutes or so? Oh man, you ain't kidding me! This is my lucky day. I'll deliver if we cancel the wedding. Yeah, don't think I have everything

2:46:17 And I get to see the Trump plane take off. What do you know? Roger, we heard that over here. Southwest 235 debarters 136.55. 126.55 southwest 235. See ya! Oh by the way when a pilot does that everyone thinks what a dick. See ya like a cowboy. Everyone is thinking what a douche. And that's exactly how you want your pilots to sound.

2:46:59 And Delta 465, I do have the clearance for you but it has a slight amendment to your routing so let me know when you're ready to copy. You know what Tyler? Just stand by one we're trying to take a picture of this Trump plane. You sure you don't want me just email it to you? It's probably better view up here! Well tell ya what if we get our email address out there all were gonna is start again these light shop jokes sent to our inbox Well, I bet the truth. I'm sure somebody out there is probably recording this too and it's going to hit the internet Oh man you know it N757FF contact departures 126.55 have a nice flight and thanks for making ATC great again! That was funny...I just thought little pile of humor there Yeah that was very funny I do have a global warming report Oh then we need to open up the gates

CHAPTER 31 / 36 Discussion

Global Cooling and Winter Blizzard Survival Stories

A weather report details a relentless Christmas blizzard in the Midwest and a survival story from the Grand Canyon. The hosts use the extreme cold and snow as a counter-narrative to global warming, jokingly referring to it as a "global cooling report."

global cooling· blizzard· dakota· grand canyon· gabe gutierrez· weather

2:47:54 To the gate, to the gate, to the climax. And of course... By global warming report I mean global cooling report! Ruh-roh! Is this a clip? This is a clip I'm supposed to play. It's global cooling report, okay wasn't capitalized at the end of the long holiday weekend The weather is a top concern tonight already the post Christmas rushes off to a slow start after whiteout conditions and fierce winds in parts of the plains and upper Midwest and freezing rain that could complicate travel in the Northeast

2:48:30 Tonight for the first time we're also hearing one mother's incredible survival story, hiking 26 miles in the snow after her family's car got trapped near the Grand Canyon. Gabe Gutierrez is tracking the worst of the weather tonight Tonight the upper Midwest is digging out after a relentless Christmas blizzard. How the heck am I getting out of here? Many roads in the Dakotas impassable 240 miles of i-94 shut down. Shutdown! Blanketed Bismarck while treacherous wind snarled air traffic we pulled up to check our bags Yeah, I got the curbside and they told us our flight was cancelled. More than 300 US flights cancelled! At least 2800 delayed It's a little frustrating but what are you gonna do? They can't control it In Arizona an out of control situation near the Grand Canyon is now an incredible survival story If i don't find shelter I'm not going to make it another night Oh boy... yeah Well we've been saying global cooling whenever the government says right just go left then your good to go

CHAPTER 32 / 36 Discussion

UN Resolution 2334 and Israeli Settlement Conflict

The hosts deconstruct the fallout from UN Resolution 2334, which condemned Israeli settlements. They feature analysis from John Bolton and Charles Krauthammer, suggesting the Obama administration orchestrated the move to "box in" Donald Trump. The segment highlights the "tell" in John Kerry's speech and the proposal by some conservatives to turn the UN headquarters into condos.

united nations· resolution 2334· israel· john kerry· benjamin netanyahu· charles krauthammer

2:49:34 Okay, I have some good things here. We cannot let this program go without speaking briefly at least about the fracas of the United Nations New World Order problems. Yes yes I have clips Oh good! What i want to do is...I have a background which comes from an unexpected source I want to say Michael Bolton. I'm Michael Bolton Michael boss the other guy the former ambassador to you a boltin bolt And he explains in a relatively short amount of time what the real problem is with this resolution. The resolution, which I read doesn't really say much but it actually nullifies an older resolution and that's what's at play here and this is I think a good backgrounder. But I think the real trouble with Resolution 2334

2:50:28 is that it implicitly repeals the well-known resolution 242 adopted by the Security Council after the 1967 war between Israel and the Arab states nearby, that created the doctrine known as land for peace that israel uh... after sixty seven and after the seventy three war would give back land added taken in battle uh... in exchange for peace so for example camp david peace agreement of nineteen seventy nine with egypt israel basically gave back uh... that part of the sinai peninsula it'd take it in the seventy three war and got to camp david uh... peace agreement

2:51:08 uh... what what people are now arguing is that that is invalid at the remaining territories of israel but once occupied after these wars uh... really or not in its power to give back so that uh... israel has to give into borders that's two four two flatly said were not defensible and not secure. And there's a lot of back-and-forth about the language of the resolutions, but the fact is this is an extraordinarily radical step by an outgoing American president intended to box in his successor." I think that's pretty accurate. Yeah! It's exactly what it is. So here's my report—this came from NBC—this is kind of a rundown backgrounder... This is Obama or Israel Obamacare fluffle

2:51:55 Kerfluffle. Does anyone use the word kerfluffle in the actual report? Kerfluffle, I do! A war of words is picking up steam among President Obama Donald Trump and the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu over that UN resolution condemning Israeli settlements and the US's willingness to let it pass That's not the only clash tonight between the president and president-elect NBC's Hallie Jackson has the latest Tonight, new fallout after a flashpoint in US-Israeli relations. A United Nations Security Council resolution reprimanding Israel for West Bank settlements seen as a slap to Israel when the U.S. chose not to block

2:52:35 with its veto. Israel furious, now accusing the US of orchestrating the resolution itself. We have proof I don't believe it we know it and will share it with the incoming administration through the appropriate channels. The Israeli ambassador echoing the allegations of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. As I told John Kerry on Thursday friends don't take friends to the Security Council but it's Egypt who pushed the resolution senior White House aide Ben Rhodes Insisting Friday. We did not draft or introduce this resolution Do you not believe do you not trust the US government when they deny having anything to do with us? Well, Ben Rhodes

2:53:13 is an expert in fiction. Donald Trump far from staying out of the fight, tweeting this weekend quote The big loss for Israel and the United Nations will make it much harder to negotiate peace and late today slamming the UN as just a club for people to get together talk and have a good time so sad escalate intention underscoring Netanyahu's chilly relationship with President Obama and his warm one with president elect Trump previewing potential changes in this diplomatic alliance and a break, in some ways with decades of US policy.

2:53:56 And I'm probably going to do a little side bits on this every once in awhile. I think Holly Jackson, who did that report has got the absolute perfect female voice for broadcasting or just chatting. I agree with that. Nice voice. She's crystal clear She sounds like a woman. She doesn't talk with up speak or down speak, or any of this dumb crap. No fry, no fry, no fry. There's no fry! I was listening to these different women on NBC and I think Holly Jackson has the perfect voice for a reporter Great I will follow that closely. All right, i have some other things to discuss regarding this we have noticed John Kerry's tell many times the tongue it's the tongue and usually it's a cough where he's got a little cough and the tongue has got out of control recently yeah so i was watching him the tongue damn near came completely out of his mouth It was licking the microphone the thing was out so far

2:54:56 But when he went into this, I just wanted to because it's horrible to listen to him. but i do have his transition from his speech to the tell Israel is permanent representative of the United Nations who does not support a two state solution said after the vote last week quote It was to be expected that Israel's greatest ally would act in accordance with values that we share Time for the tell Veto this resolution Okay here we go I am compelled to respond today that the United States did in fact vote in accordance with our values. I mean this guy, even to...I'm compelled now I'm forced to say and he does it and his throat is all choked up! The tell is enormous and his tongue's flapping!

2:55:47 Unbelievable. Yeah, I got to play- So what do you think this is all about? This is something going on behind the scenes! This is Obama poisoning... there's a lot of evidence he's poisoning the well for the next guy. He's completely- absolutely! Absolutely! Um, I have uh Krauthammer What a lousy precedent to do that No it isn't another thing I gotta say that it's lousy but here's Krauthammer from Fox I play Krauthammer because the ladies love The Kraut Have you noticed this The ladies love the Krautheimer. I don't know why. Tino loves him, yeah? I think it's because he is in a wheelchair and all messed up so... It's the only man that you can always say, I love him for his mind If it's a hot looking guy then it sounds suspicious

2:56:37 But he's got a great mind. the only Jewish state on the planet, a tiny little speck while genocide mayhem murder terrorism is going on all over the world. It's an obsession that to an outside observer appears to be insane why are we doing this and the rest of the time is spent undermining the United States and democracy and our allies around the world

2:57:16 It is an organization that exacerbates tensions. It does not assuage them, it was born in hope the end of the Second World War turned out to be a disaster any move to minimize our support for it and he moved together out of the US imagine if headquarters were in Zimbabwe you might await and coverage it would get to be zero I think that's good real estate in downtown New York City, and Trump ought to find a way to put his name on it and turn it into condos. Good old Krauthammer. Now, I will say this about that clip... That is actually becoming a talking point on all the right-wing radio shows. To mow down the UN building? No! Leave the building there but turn it into condos. It's got great views. Really?! Ha ha! I didn't realize that was a thing. Yeah. And then the funniest response to all of this came from that overnight legend Don Lemon on CNN

2:58:18 Who, uh... Of course. You know it's Christmas time so what are you gonna do? You're gonna get the Jew on! The Jew is available. Alan Dershowitz It doesn't matter in terms of international law. I'm the lawyer here. Let me tell you that international- I'M THE LAWYER HERE SHUT UP DON LEMONS the lawyer here. Let me tell you, international law is very unclear. I understand that's a legal argument but according to the United Nations and according to the Geneva Convention... According to the United Nations Jews kill babies and take their organs. My God! For 25 years they've been growing babies in cows! When did the UN say that?

CHAPTER 33 / 36 Discussion

Obama's Claim of Beating Trump in a Third Term

On David Axelrod's podcast, President Obama suggests he could have won a third term if he had been allowed to run. The hosts play the clip and contrast it with an RT report detailing the massive loss of seats the Democratic Party suffered during Obama's tenure. They conclude that the American people were largely fed up with his policies.

barack obama· david axelrod· donald trump· 2016 election· dnc· rt

2:59:01 I don't know. This they may have fantastic. I love that. Now the president now this was very, very bad form but once I heard the clip it felt a little different to me big blow up the petulant child Obama he said if Iran for a third term I would have beaten Trump that was the headline I have a clip about this from RT which kind of takes it funny slant with him. Let me play the actual quote and this was from a podcast, interestingly enough... Yes! What podcast was this? The Axelrod Podcast

2:59:45 Oh, he's got a podcast. Yeah well it's a podcast but I think he airs it all on CBS so the accusation was really that the president what a child! He said well if I had run against Trump I would have beat him that was the accusation What he really said was a lot more nuanced. If I had run again and articulated it, I think I could have mobilized a majority of the American people to rally behind it. In conversations that I've had with people around the country even some people who disagreed with me they would say the vision... The direction that you point towards is the right one." Okay

3:00:32 So he didn't really, wasn't... He kind of did. But it's not as bad as it was made out to be I'm just saying that that sounded- It was a little more nuanced. I would have kicked his butt man! Yeah I think he kind of said it. Let's hear your, do you need a second? RT doesn't really say that he's really said either. I just think that they extrapolate it better the way Axelrod and all these pauses... Yeah. ...I think they tightened up so let's see what he says. Outgoing US President Barack Obama has claimed that if he'd been legally able to run for a third term then he would have been backed by the majority voters and beaten Donald Trump

3:01:12 I'm confident that if i had run again and articulated it, I think could have mobilized a majority of the American people to rally behind it. His successor Donald Trump took to Twitter to reject the idea that he would have lost saying his success came from Democrat failures during Obama's time in office. Miguel Francis Santiago takes a look back at the outgoing presidents record sheet So Obama is confident he could have won this election. That's quite a statement from someone whose party lost its mojo No, seriously. 2016 has become the worst year for the Democrats in almost a century! From when Obama took office in 2008 through 2016 elections, Democrats have lost 63 seats in the House 11 seats in Senate 13 governorships and nearly 1,000 seats in state legislatures This is the lowest they've got since 1920's And even the Democrats themselves admit they lack strategy

3:02:09 or a plan. How many seats do we have to lose before we make a change? We're not even a national party at this point I think Obama may have lost even worse than Hillary in the election here American people were kind of fed up with Obama policies Hillary was associated with those policies but they were Obama's policies and i think the voters would've turned against him as well Thanks, Obama Less than 10 minutes to go. All right, 10 minute warning So I thought RT gave him the needle a little better He deserves the needle for sure. I just thought it was a little more nuanced Do you remember when President Obama? I think it was before he was president 2008 when he talked about visiting all 57 states of America

CHAPTER 34 / 36 Discussion

The 57 State Strategy and Islamic OIC Code

The hosts revisit Obama's famous "57 states" gaffe after Congressman Keith Ellison uses the same number when discussing a DNC strategy. They speculate that "57" might be a code referring to the 57 member states of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC). John Dvorak shares a childhood story about being punished in a Dutch school for correctly stating there are 50 US states.

57 states· keith ellison· barack obama· oic· muslim world· conspiracy theory

3:02:54 Ha! Right. Yeah, let me just remind you with that clip Because it is just wonderful to be back in Oregon and over the last 15 months we've traveled to every corner of the United States I've now been 57 states...I think one left to go One left to go Alaska and Hawaii I was not allowed to go even though i really wanted to visit but my staff would not justify Actually, I never really realized that he said his staff wouldn't justify him going to Alaska and Hawaii. But there he was! 57 states whether it was a joke or not... And it didn't sound like it to me. No, we decided that wasn't a joke just a miss-miss speak Well I'm wondering about that There was a big meeting in Minnesota Minnesota and Keith Ellison who's a, believe you think, congressman from Democrat for Minnesota He had a whole idea about a strategy for the Democratic Party You know what does it matter if a man can sit at the lunch counter but he can't afford a hamburger?

3:03:58 We have got to be all about that and the work started on November 9th. Let me share with you my plan I believe we need not just a 57 state strategy, but a three thousand one hundred and forty-three Thousand county strategy now is there something missing? Is there something that right away you get clip of the day for that Thank You Isn't that nuts? Why is it the same 57, is there some code going on here. That's what I'm trying to figure out. It has to be code! At the time there was talk about it being the 57 Islamic states... Well Ellison is a Muslim and so as Obama as far as I am concerned

3:04:48 I've seen no real evidence that he's not. They're going to take the prayer rugs out of the White House when Trump comes in, apparently an underreported story. No, I didn't hear about that. Oh yeah and Ellison is the Muslim and he is going to take over the Democratic Party as the DNC. He's headed to be the next head at the DNC. Well, 57 may relate to something we don't know anything about again if you look at Snopes because as you know they are fact-check false They say that Obama's 57 state statement is mixed. Yes, yes he said 57 states but no the president was not referring to the 57 states of Islam Let me see what this is... we need to uh... where are we? Here we are... let me see 57 States of Islam I'm gonna find something

3:05:48 Yes, here it is. Now we're treading new water! That's right. Organization of Islamic Cooperation OIC is an international organization founded in 1969 consisting of 57 member states the organization that it is the collective voice of the Muslim world So there's your 57 states. Which I'm sure is just a conspiracy theory, but... ...I mean my god! I remember as a kid—I think I told this story once—my parents sat us down one Sunday evening and said guess where you guys are going tomorrow? And we went to the International School of Amsterdam. We said where are we going? They're going to Dutch school! What?!

3:06:31 I barely spoke any Dutch. So, I entered Dutch school in fifth grade and the teacher for everyone kind of spoke some English but Americans were not liked at the time there was a quite big invasion mainly with the Vietnam War still going on or you know, the fact that it ended when I was in school in the fifth or sixth grade. And at a certain point the teacher's talking about the United States and there are 52 states and I raise my hand to say, oh no, I'm sorry we have 50 states." No! You're forgetting to count Alaska and Hawaii!" He said but it was 48 and then this lower... NO! Of course they just shut up So I went home and we had Encyclopedia Britannica. Brought that in the next day, look here it is 48... Yes but that's encyclopedia Britannica from 1969 or whatever it was It's not the most current version so then I called the consulate my mom had one of those you know dictaphone cassette not a dictaphone but just the small portable- I don't remember you ever telling this story Oh okay well its almost over No! I like this story

3:07:32 Because you run into this sort of thing all around. Oh, it was insane and again I'm the loser kid with Tourette's and a bad haircut who speaks almost no Dutch! And here i am like... because I was really sure it was 50 states Because it was. Yeah, my mom had this portable cassette recorder which she used to play because at my grandmother the time was the Watergate tapes she would send them over and she actually called them the Watergate tapes haha and my mom could listen to the hearings which was a televised but not in Europe so So I used that, I called the consulate or the embassy and they go and get someone. They say well we're pretty sure it's 50 states we would know! I play that in school...I get detention! And never an admission but never an admission. You should track down that person and give them hell now! Yeah what do you think of me now? Dude? My plan. Oops sorry. What is your name?

3:08:40 He was actually a nice guy. It wasn't a horrible guy, but he would not take it...he would just not accept it! So anyway so I mean that kind of mistake when I was you know how old was I? Was 10 11 12 uh I recognized how many states we had How can you have this happening if it's not something for you know there's got to be some kind of...I agree it's going to code my plan yeah I believe we need not just a 57 state strategy, but 3143 thousand county strategy. How many counties are there? I don't know it's on that everyone is talking about the counties

3:09:20 But let's see if maybe it's on the sheet I have here. Let me just see, what was his number again? What was his number? State strategy but a 3143... 43,000? Yeah, 3143 counties that's according to the book of knowledge so but that's 50 states not 57. So where what is wrong with these people? I think it's some sort of code! It must be or they got 57 Muslim states on their mind for some reason. I don't know why Obama wouldn't unless he's Muslim which is what you know everyone seems to think Yeah. Okay, well... I have another annoying shorty. You can do annoying after this shorty. Okay. Just a shortie. It's here that we remember that even when hatred burns hottest Even when the tug of tribalism is at its most primal We must resist But resist! We must! The urge to turn inward We must and will much about that

CHAPTER 35 / 36 Discussion

NCAA Ethics and Tiger Woods' Arnold Palmer Anecdote

Tiger Woods tells a story on Charlie Rose about being declared ineligible by the NCAA because Arnold Palmer paid for his steak dinner while Woods was a student at Stanford. To regain eligibility, Woods had to write Palmer a $25 check and have it faxed to the NCAA. The hosts use this to illustrate the absurdity of rigid institutional ethics rules.

tiger woods· arnold palmer· ncaa· ethics· amateur athletics· charlie rose

3:10:23 Be committed. There you go, just need to get out of the way. Okay so here's I'm watching Charlie Rose it got Tiger Woods The Golfers on And he's a Stanford student when he was discovered as a superstar golfer. So one of his heroes are these older golfers like Jack Nicklaus, Arnold Palmer and he tells this story about having lunch with Arnold Palmer and this kind of epitomizes the problem with amateur athletics in the United States which is governed by a body called the NCAA or he calls it the NC2A. And they have all these rules about all this just to keep it clean and fresh so nobody, you know, violates anything. But this kind of thing is what...this you see in these so-called ethics lists that reporters are supposed to sign off on which are borderline ludicrous where you can't take more from me. In other words if somebody buys you a cup of coffee, you know your ethically or violation

3:11:23 So this one, I just thought this story was kind of fascinating. And we'd rap about Godly so many different things and have the conversation than in dinners. I've had with him Some of them great memories is Arnold probably fondest memories that I have was with at Napa Yeah, I was in college and Arnold invited me over for dinner So I go over to dinner and have dinner with him at Napa and Arnold picks up the tab I'm not going to say, yeah, I'm a college student. I'm going to pick up my tab with Arnold Palmer." Well, I ended up becoming... My coach found out and said, did you pick up the tab? No, Arnold did. Well, I reported into the NCAAs. I'm declared ineligible and so I go to All-American El Paso and he ... I have to write Arnold Palmer a check of $25 for my steak dinner

3:12:21 He has to cash the check, fax the copy back to NC2A's and then I was declared eligible to play in All-American. Uh huh... This is kind of bull crap that goes on everywhere! That is pretty nutty It's just bullcrap. Crazy, crazy... You want to hear some real bull crap? Fake news? North Korean president Kim Jong-un made the announcement over the weekend that his grandmother's birthday would replace Christmas this year. Kim Jong Suk was a communist activist in the 1940s who aided the revolution and installed the dictatorship Yeah yeah sure

CHAPTER 36 / 36 Discussion

HGTV Ratings Success and Show Sign-off

The episode concludes with a note that HGTV has surpassed CNN in viewership ratings, which the hosts attribute to people being exhausted by the news. They play a final "fake news" clip regarding the Netherlands and Gert Wilders before signing off with a New Year's greeting and a reminder for the upcoming Sunday show.

hgtv· cnn· ratings· bill weir· gert wilders· netherlands· fake news

3:13:07 Okay, I've got one little clip. This is shorty. Uh, I just thought this was kind of ironic that somebody came up with the real numbers regarding CNN and MSNBC. I guess Fox isn't included in this but this is the HG Home & Garden television clip Now, does the news get you down? Well that might be very well the reason that HGTV has beat out CNN and all other news networks in a recent poll. Bloomberg is reporting that the network of house flippers and decorators saw its shares rise more than 30% this year. All right I'll give you one just for that. Yeah, you deserve it. That was good one

3:13:53 It's sad. House slippers! It's sad, so I have to start adding HGTV to my beat now So that we remain relevant Apparently Oh geez oh well Alrighty everybody thank you so much for your support of the show Nice list of donors of course for two programs, so please do remember us for Sunday Dvorak dot org slash NA And Sunday will be the first of the new year We're working on January 1st Yes, it will be the first day in fact when we're working on a holiday. Yes once again So probably won't have a lot of people live on the stream But your support is appreciated as always all righty I got nothing else

3:14:44 Uh, nothing. Absolutely nothing else Well let me say happy new year to you in advance then sir Oh yes! Let me say happy new year to you and yours Okay And coming to you from the crackpot... Everybody out there Happy New Year to everyone From the CrackPot condo here in downtown Austin In The Skyscraper FEMA Region 6 On The Government Maps In The Morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where Plato say, woman who clean arena after dog show gets pick of litter. I'm John C. Dvorak We'll be back on Sunday! Until then Adios mofos

3:15:40 You are weak and dead, you are weak and dead. You're gonna die with a taint of smell before we kill you first. Now you'll be dead! You are weak and tired, you are weak and weary. We will take them all before we kill you first! Die of fear! You are weak americans, you are weak europeans.

3:16:42 You are weak Americans, you are weaker beings. Your blood in our eyes will protect us before we kill you first. Die you pigs! You are weak Americans, you are weak Europeans. Your web in our eyes we will take them before we kill your first, ah your pigs! F-U-F-L-O-W and you don't know where there's fake news Why don't ya get your gitmo fit Putin on the wrist Dressed up like a million dollar trooper Trying not to look like Anderson Cooper Super pooper Come let's mix Where John Podesta walks with kids Oh I mean pizzas in his mitts Putin on the wrist

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3:18:48 In the morning, in the mornin' In the morning, in the mornin' So some guy goes and he's traveling around And then it was like oh! We discovered the quaint little country of The Netherlands. And there they have this crazy guy Gert Wilders Because it is going to come across To anyone who doesn't know the background Of the country or a politician As sounds perfectly reasonable Sounds like a true story

3:19:26 It is completely wrong from beginning to end. Just so you know, it's all fake news. Holland generally known for its liberal progressive tolerant views called the Dutch Donald Trump Maybe that's not fair maybe it maybe that's not fair maybe it GERDWIELDERS Trying to catch a wave that many other populations in the US and Europe have ridden to victory. Let's bring in Bill Weir Famously open-minded society, you know the Dutch created that country out of mud and water and they are famously That's how land reclamation works Mud there little water we can make a country like this

3:20:14 right on, let's do that. You know they were the center of trade and into the stock market at one point it was the center of the universe but okay you can put it that way if you want. Kurt Wilders Dutch Donald Trump as this gentleman rises in the polls he is now a favorite to become the Prime Minister Dutch Donald Trump Jews kill babies and take their organs Adios mofo The best podcast in the universe!