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00:00 Boom, that's off the table. Celebrating traffic and weather together on the 8th, and broadcasting live from the darkest corners of the internet here in FEMA Region 6 In The Morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where Plato say woman who plays with man's pickle makes love with relish. I'm John C. DeVore It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! They just keep getting better man

00:38 I really have to go back and I have to apologize. That was kind of against the whole play-doh Play-doh say Play-doh yes, play-doh play-doh He's got some he's gotta going on our play-doh guys got chops You should do something with that oh Yeah so back back from the little jaunt in Florida Yes, you went to Florida. Mm-hmm and celebrate Thanksgiving in advance I guess so it was time there was time for me to John's Oh well Tina lived there at the keeper for 16 years or so so she has friends and stuff and you know wouldn't visited all the friends it was nice

01:19 So you saw everybody's friends? I saw her friends, yes. And he probably brought it up to you when we went and then we saw Andrew Horowitz in his lovely white wheel Yes who was apparently sick as a dog He was already kind of sick but i guess took us out on his boat We had a nice dinner Yeah you ran him into the ground Well, I heard the show and he sounded really really like hoarse Yes, he doesn't. He's not like you can be sick as a dog I just inform people out there because yes true witness this Sick as a dog You sound fine Well i would have to suggest him that maybe the hookah was not a great idea

02:03 Yeah, I know. We're back he says to me come back and he's got his boat right behind the house Oh by the way that Tiki Hut that I've heard him talk about yeah This is not a Tiki hut it's a friggin annex It's huge yeah, I was thought was just a little hot That's exactly what I thought oh no No it did and you know I guess he had some Seminoles come by and bless it so then it's legal, but I mean that's a- It's an annex. It's like the Benghazi Annex the thing is so big. Yeah, yeah And then he breaks out the hookah

02:40 Excellent. And he has already a lung thing going on? Exactly! This is not... okay, well you know if he'd spent more time in California he would know these things. Yeah but we had a great time that was fun but also Tina's friends were fantastic it was great I passed all the tests so i'm good to go Oh you did? Yeah yeah Did they tattoo something on your face so they know No they all just have their little clipboard and then check mark Checkmark check mark at tonight to discuss it on the big Thursday night conference call when all women talk about how they're going to bring man down You know that one. Yeah, well Let's get a line tapped into that thing Okay, well lots of places to start have some good European news today as well but what is abundantly clear for those in the United States of Gitmo nation and far beyond is

03:34 is the media in particular, but people who just hate President-elect Trump are going to not let up with this racism thing. Oh my goodness! It has been, I mean it's just atrocious. But it is pretty bad. I haven't noticed the targeting racism so much as this conflict of interest issues that don't exist? Yeah see that's much less for at least the media that's been thrown in my face. Oh okay well I've been fine still on the NBC side of things so I'm studying them the most and

04:15 some breakdowns of the bull crap, the way they're presenting it. Well okay you want to do that first? No you go with a racist thing and then I'll move on How come i have to do the racist thing? That's racist! Go racism! He said GO RACISM! Southern Poverty Law Center. Southern Poverty Law Center. Yeah Southern Poverty Law Center These guys are really bad They are very bad they are hugely funded this is a non-profit with Last time I looked, $250 million. Yeah lots of money and their job is to identify hate and racism and put it on a map and then go on TV and explain it here's the Southern Poverty Law Center's editor Ryan Lentz who's not often

05:01 It's usually the other guy, the CEO who does these things. I guess they're splitting it up because they are so busy. Yeah they got so much to do. Well just identifying all of racism! All of the racism! And i'd like to make one more point. So yesterday Donald Trump released his 100 day plan on YouTube and he announced some very thorough, some very specific things that he was going to be doing by executive action and he referenced a phrase in the midst of this speech He said that he is going to drain the swamp Drain the swamp was a meme and Twitter hashtag that grew Exploded really after Donald Trump came forward with plant were with allegations that it was a rigged election, and it was spread specifically or Among the people that were spreading the drain-the-swamp Hashtag we're avowed racist white man white supremacists who exist on Twitter to harass

05:51 I like that. Really? I would like to be a white supremacist who exists on Twitter. Hi, my name's Adam. I'm a white supremacist and exist on Twitter. Racists! White supremacists who exists on twitter to harass and demean various ethnic groups So, we have a little bit of two-sided message here. Yeah he's saying stop it but he is also giving a wink wink nod nod to the very people that he is asking to step away from their violence. So now drain the swamp as racist John? Now you see I unfortunately didn't pick this up so I didn't make a couple clips that would fit right into this including one with one of the basketball coaches or actually one of the

06:36 general manager, Phil Jackson a very famous guy who used the word posse in discussing with somebody mentioned... Oh racist. LeBron James well here's I'm gonna give you the rundown of the clip by would have made if i'd known we're going to go this direction So O'Reilly had with Stephen A. Smith, one of these pundits or sports pundit on talking about this because O'Reilly was befuddled by how the word using the word posse in describing LeBron James's entourage and our business partners was racist and it did was the most convoluted explanation that

07:17 If O'Reilly had said posse, it's not racist. But because Jackson works with black players and he has been doing so for 20 years He should know better thus it is racist And I was just... It was an eye roller for me Isn't that interesting? Well if you would have had that clip I would've been even happier Because I would've seamlessly flown right into this clip Which is CNN Brooke Baldwin. You might have seen this one? Probably again, yes yeah okay well and she has some author professor spoke from Dinos pundit Charles Kaiser on and he is going to explain explain to us what Trump must do

08:12 Stop being, you know if he doesn't want to be seen as a racist He has certain things he has to do and I found this to be just the whole segment was fabulous Let's bring in CNN political commentator and Trump supporter Paris Denard also. Paris Denard is so he's a pro-Trump guy Black guy. So Charles Kaiser is with us. He's a CNN dot com com contributor and a white guy. And the author of multiple books including The Cost of Courage, the story how one French family fought the Nazis during at the Paris occupation. Gentlemen welcome. Of course! Thank you Charles let me just begin with you I mean now that your hearing we're getting some other information coming out this New York Times meeting that Trump has disavowed this particular group is that enough for you? Well i'm delighted

09:00 Mr. Trump has visited my alma mater at the New York Times and said that he doesn't want to do this anymore, but I wanna- Did you hear this guy? Douchebag! What did you go to university? New York Times University your Alma Mater is that shh Can you say that for everything your Alma Mater I guess so. He's a New York Times guy, what he says goes Yeah but he is the grey old lady right there. He said that he doesn't want to do this anymore but i wanna give him some advice for the future if he does not want to stimulate the alt-right Don't stimulate the alt-right! Words I never thought I'd hear in the media

09:36 He should never retweet someone with the name White Genocide who lists his address as Jew America. That's what he did in February I have to say, good tip! I wouldn't do this either if your address is Jew America but it's not something to retweet Good tip, good tip, good tip You should never ask his supporters again to give the Nazi salute which you did at a rally in March Now this is interesting So and he has little list so he was reading these off to right hand side of him He's saying that in a rally in March, he said everyone give me the Hitler salute to pledge allegiance. And we deconstructed this at the time the photo was taken from behind up high and it looked like people were doing a Heil Hitler but they pretty much were not I mean there just that is but you know and it's interesting because whoever's in the line producer on Brooke show It takes a second but then says clearly to Brooke and now fact I'll emulate

10:34 Hey, wait a minute. That may not be true." You know like fact-checking on the fly quite impressive Give the Nazi salute which he did at a rally in March that's not a good idea In March he asked his supporters to raise and pledge their support to his candidacy That's true, but it was not the Nazi salute and promised to vote for him There's plenty of video behind that plenty of video not showing and then of course in July he retreated an image of his opponent with these Six-pointed Jewish star on it. I thought that was a mistake also known as the Star of David you numbskull But we have six point six pointed Jewish star

11:16 I think that's anti-semitic right there. I think so? Yeah, the six pointed Jewish star on it... I thought that was a mistake. But we have bigger problems here also in July you know he selected as his vice president the most homophobic man in American public life A person who believes... I love that! The most homophobic man Really? In American public life? Yes! See a video of him doing that And then of course in July he retreated an image of his opponent with these uh six... Stop He says there's a video behind that. What do you need the video for? He is, he appointed the most homophobic and there's a video of what proof? Pointed Jewish star on it I thought that was a mistake but we have bigger problems here also in July you know he selected as his vice president The most homophobic man in American public life A person who believes gay people actually don't have the right to exist

12:11 And then, you know... I thought you'd like that. What? Yeah Mike Pence apparently feels gay people do not have the right to exist. Is there a video for that? No But I have to deconstruct the whole AIDS conversion therapy again, which we'll do in a minute. But first let's just continue. And then you know if you don't want support the alt-right, don't choose as a White House counselor a man who uses the word nigger whose wife says that he did not want his daughters go to school with him Now this is why... This is why pulled this clip now

12:53 Because here is a white man using the n-word and Brooke freaks out about it. She does but I think right when he says it that's when you should do what we have to do as a new sound effect which is a counter click, click, click because it takes forever for her to come around to realizing that she has to do something And you could just admit, you can start counting down from the way he uses it. We'll do that. You should we'll do that. He did not want his daughters to go to... Let's go back a little further here. Wife says that he did not want... Says that he didn't know now what is this? Come on for a man who uses the word nigger 1000s. His wife says that he did not she said wow she said that almost immediately hear her go Wow within

13:38 within two seconds so she heard yeah why does he has a buddhist up to you know and uh... daughters to go to school with too many jews and don't choose as attorney general man who calls the n double a cp in on american organization and who we learned in the guardian today though went so far as to process house can i just hang out a second i appreciate going through all of this but please don't use the n-word on my show. I'm sorry, well i never used the N word except when I'm quoting someone who's been appointed by the president to serve in the Oval Office since this is such a disgusting moment in our history So Brooke was clearly, you know she was clearly affected by this and at the end of the segment here's what she said. She was crying John. She really had tears...she was tearing up. How do you feel when President Trump- Alright gentlemen we're done I appreciate both your voices The more I've sat here and listened to the fact that somebody used the n word on this show On my show? It is not okay Yeah on my show It is not okay. Coles Piter respect you! I enjoy having you as a guest but

14:46 Not okay. By the way, uh... The claim that Mr. Bannon used the N-word? I've never heard of this. Oh! So there's that. Oh maybe it's fake news. Sounds like fake news to me. Now hold on don't talk in my jingles man. Don't do it. Fake News Okay We got why that's the new jingle we have a whole boatload I'm just gonna play each one as we go through fake news. Okay, well figure out which is the best? I like it little No, I thought that Transition what was the other one there was a well, I mean you know what we see here this is oh

15:25 You know, these are people who produce our show and have a lot of creativity. They don't have a lot of chops but I appreciate all of it. I'm still not sure why there's a puking sound and a ping pong ball at the end of that one. No now i think you called me out for mentioning something about what you think might discourage us...I think my criticism of the first fake news jingle is something The creator needs to know. Oh, I'm sorry no no no you're just gonna be selected! I'm sorry don't take it wrong No absolutely and we have to give feedback Absolutely otherwise they can so they wonder why didn't they pick mine right because this other one's better all right? I like this one though. I thought that was pretty good Okay, so now we move on with some little more racism stuff cuz hey

16:20 Racism is what we do in America. Howard Dean, one of those moments once again goes on foreign television thinking no one will see that I can say whatever i want to say here He's a complicated guy he appoints a reasonable person who's much more conservative than I am but for somebody you can talk to his chief of staff and then the senior advisor is a Nazi Okay, hang on. This is interesting you're talking about Rince Priebus who is the chairman of the Republican National Party right? He's now his chief of staff. Steve Bannon who ran something called Breitbart News which is a far-right anti-semitic publication

16:58 You call them a Nazi? Well, he's anti-semitic. He's anti black and he's anti women people like to throw around this word now I mean if I can't imagine yes any friends. I mean who the hell is left Anti-semitic anti women anti black that makes him a Nazi. That's child. He's not none of us Necessarily true no, I don't think he's anti women. I don't know anything though but How does it even if he was how does that make him a Nazi which would be a socialist? This party of Germany in the 1930s. Yeah, well this Candanavian actually does delve in a little bit. I think he's a little shocked, and rightly so! You called him a Nazi? Well... He's anti-Semitic, he's anti-black, and he's anti women People like to throw around this word Nazi It's pretty big word It's a big word And i don't usually use it unless somebody is really Anti-Semitic Unless uh.. I'm in Canada I think no one gonna care Black, and he's anti Women people like to throw around this word Nazi It's pretty big word

17:54 It's a big word and I don't usually use it unless somebody is really anti-semitic, really misogynist. You look at Breitbart News and you'll make up your own mind. Some will say Donald Trumps daughter married Steve Kushner who is an orthodox Jewish guy? How do you square the circle? That's a very good question. I have no idea how he squares the circle! Maybe your delusional Howard Dean maybe that's why Delusional. I have no idea how he squares that circle, what does that even mean? Square the Circle of course is a reference to professional wrestling Oh! I didn't know this

18:34 Well, you square the circle as... They have all these cage matches which are often in a form or actually the circles of the squares. The ultimate fighting they have this circle thing but they talk about squaring the circle and boxing and wrestling every so often where it comes from. Okay well here is an actual case of racism that I was very surprised by. And we have a new face on CNN, oh I like this girl! Let me see her name is Simone Sanders Have you seen her anywhere? No Okay Simone Sanders let me see

19:13 Well, she's a new CNN correspondent. She used the book of knowledge she is probably in there. We can probably do that. Simone Sanders... I had it written down but just can't find my link here we go oh! She was Bernie Sanders press secretary there you go doesn't have much he only hires people with the same last name? I guess how'd that work out uh... and so of course you know she's a the issues mad mad about getting screwed over by the democratic party managed to help them then she's not gonna take any longer but enter the racism howard in howard

19:57 Howard Dean is also on record maligning young people and millennials, telling those Bernie folks they just need to get in line and maligning Bernie Sanders. And that is not what we need, my opinion. We don't need white people leading the Democratic Party right now. The Democratic Party is diverse and it should be reflected as so in our leadership and throughout the staff at the highest levels from the vice chairs through the secretaries all way down to the people working in offices at the DNC I think when you have a robust discussion about this and I think we need hear more from all the candidates. Jamie Harrison in South Carolina, he's great too! He has done real party building but everybody doesn't necessarily know Jamie and they want to know what it is that he stands for so I want to hear more from everybody. I'm here for the Millennials and the Brown folks." You know... To say... Talk about racism. That's- did i not say this is actual racism? To say we don't need white people in a Democratic Party because obviously there is a difference in skin color

20:52 and white people are different, and not good enough to lead the Democratic Party. Yeah that's what she said I mean come on! Yes she's extremely racist this woman Very racist Technically racist yeah technically racist yes so very surprising now here's a little bit longer clip which has the race has everything in it and it's going bigly viral on the face bags Bigly? Bigly viral on the face bags I'm going to get a tattoo that says that this is test. Test Rafferty, maybe you would know. That's right for you. OK? What about her? Okay. She is a writer for the soup and like other Comedy Central shows like some of the roasts. So she's a comedy. Right. So what she said was she's a comedy writer or she does one liners.

21:50 Uh, okay. You already don't like her I can tell. I thought you would like it being particularly good. Mimi probably knows her and don't you guys know all the comic comedians at Comic Writers? You got some of these up in comers where we're dated Okay so she does a video which is released under occupied Democrats and been it's it's a little longer than you know then our two minute kind of max but Holy moly! This really shows you the delusional thinking. And everyone's hallucinating and delusional right now, and I can show that on both sides which we'll do during this program to help everyone deconstruct themselves but listen to this... Wait maybe i should just set up- The setting is her in it looks like a large recording studio but its dark, black & white she has um ya know like uh sheet note holder

22:45 in front of her, but that's with you know with her uh... her speech as she's doing here. It was very stylized. Like a musicians thing? Yes yeah thank you. Yeah musicians music stand. You might want to- She's cute! If you wanna take a look at it I'm looking at her picture now. Yeah okay good well then you have the whole Sarah Silverman type yes um not so bony looking You know? It's a gestalt. Well, yes, gestalt indeed I am so damn tired of trying to see it from the other side. I'm trying to discuss nuance while they paint us and our candidates with the broadest of hateful brushes. What?! Do you want to interrupt the whole thing? I'm sorry but it is hard to get by some of these commentaries Okay what bothered you there in the first eight seconds

23:35 Talk about broad brushstrokes. In fact, that Jon Stewart clip that you play with it the premise of it was that we as Democrat liberals condemned the Republicans for painting Muslims with broad brushtrokes but we do the same thing with Trump by calling everyone who voted for him a racist and a bully too Exactly. And so she's denied, she's in denial about that immediately? Correct you are sir! I am so damn tired of trying to see it from the other side. I'm trying to discuss nuance while they paint us and our candidates with the broadest of hateful brushes I'm tired of pretending like it's somehow reasonable to teach creationism in public schools with my tax dollars while you tell me that two same-sex people who love each other getting married somehow threatens your marriage. You voted for Trump, i am tired of trying to see things your way while you sit in your holier than thou churches slash white power meetups refusing to see things mine." Wow! While you sit in your church meetings slash white power meetups... Holy macro what a bigot

24:37 It ain't over yet, boy. This is another good one. They just keep bringing back the KKK and you have to disavow, but you can't just disavow You have to get on a box on a tower with a megaphone and disavow But even that may not be enough It's insane I'm tired of pussyfooting around what offends your morals while couching what offends mine because racism and homophobia and misogyny and xenophobia Offend mine

25:25 Let me say it right here, if you voted for Trump I do think you're a racist. I do think you're homophobic. I do think you are misogynist There you go there's your generalization You're lumping together Racism and homophobia and misogyny are all spectrum And your on it Oh its all the spectrum That's new That's new and that doesn't make sense Well we have a spectrum which is the spectrum Where everything on this spectrum Autism has a spectrum Well, autism is a single thing. You could say misogyny has the spectrum... Nah it's all on the spectrum baby! It's all on the spectrum of assholes. And I think you can say racism has a spectrum but you cant put three of those and say they combined have a spectrum. Yeah sure that makes zero sense he just thrown it out there are on the spectrum of A-hole okay Racism and homophobia and misogyny are all a spectrum and your'e on it don't like getting painted with the broad brush of racism?

26:20 Now you know what it feels like when you get told that you want to rip a baby out of the mother's womb at nine months, when that is not what happens. That is never what happens." Okay... So people who are pro-life think that pro choice rip babies out of wombs at 9 months? It was kind of graphic Well, she's also very... Anyway go on. Just keep playing I'll try not to keep- No please do! Please do! No no interrupt when you feel appropriate it's okay. Rip a baby out of the mother's womb at nine months when that's not what happens that's never what happened Hold on a second Not that i want to keep interrupting Why is she even doing this video? Who's it for and why did she again why did she do it Oh well there is a conclusion And oh okay Yeah there's a conclusion

27:11 You'll love it. I like that Hell yeah, and that's true. Everywhere you go the punchline is grab him by the pussy I mean we do live in grabbing by the pussy America Let's be honest We don't live in polite America anymore. We live in grabbing by the pussy America now So thank you for that being polite was exhausting And don't come at me with how you just didn't like Hillary this was bigger than Hillary hold on a second stop stop

27:50 I am really reluctant to keep interrupting. No, this is the point of playing the whole game. She made she makes a point that it was difficult and exhausting people like she's naturally rude. Yeah yes exactly it was so exhaustive if thank you as a good point It takes a lot of work to be polite and I don't like doing anything more I'm going to just be my normal rude self And she is apparently look if you listen to this... I like that hold on You know what? I don't have one where's my pen So while you're looking for your pen, I will make a recommendation to the listeners out there and the producers. And it's a long story behind this but the pen that you wanna buy which is the smoothest writing instrument I've ever run into and it was discovered by a bank teller who used to work at Mechanics Bank and she was raving about this pen. It's the Paper Mate Ink Joy.

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29:48 Digression everybody and don't come at me with how you just didn't like Hillary. This was bigger than Hillary This wasn't your standard I just want lower taxes and smaller government Republican we had Germans warning us that this guy was scary The German said this guy is scary, this is a bigoted comment yes She takes the Germans and puts them in a special position of being A-holes, and even these A-holes... Let's be honest. When it comes to being an A-hole, the Germans they take the crown. This is a great example of incredible kind of unconscious because she doesn't know what she's doing bigotry. Yes. And it has the ultimate sanctimonious smugness in it

30:37 Because everything's money is smug big mug joke this guy was scary and still you cried emails or Benghazi or that voice And so there's been mountains of evidence proving that nothing that you think Hillary did was that big of a deal Or even true some of the finest minds in the world have drawn you graphs and charts proving That no crimes were actually committed, and you were either too dumb or to willfully ignorant to care uh-huh if he really cared about crimes You're too dumb! D-dumb, dummy. You're dummies. Dummies? Dummies... Wow man

31:31 So, just say hey. Like 20 years ago some... This was a very sketchy case has been- And I warned everyone that was gonna happen and that it would all go under Jane Doe and it would all be dropped is exactly what happened! Even though her name is she apparently she had tried this suit in Los Angeles where her name was actually revealed Yeah It was for it was like as soon for like 70 grand or some really small amount to a real attorney got ahold of her Well Gloria Allred Yeah, so no we're gonna sue for millions and of course it's not tell you Gloria. I'll read all right already All red yeah She doesn't give up a case unless she knows she's not gonna win it she's out. She's a she's a hound man Bites in alright continue, but ask me again when more women don't come forward and speaking this morning I'll ask you when more women don't come forward okay, but asked me again one more woman Don't come forward

32:23 And speaking of smaller government and lower taxes, enjoy not getting mine. If Trump actually does what he says he's going to do then your petty backward state in your small angry towns can pay for your own schools to not educate your children I live in California the largest economy in the United States and a sixth largest in the world we'll be fine You're broke! What do you mean, you'll be fine? Good! You're broke. Live in California the largest economy in the United States and the sixth largest in the world will be fine but have fun affording all those children your health insurance won't pay for your birth control to prevent I'm just kidding you're not gonna have insurance won't that be just great again

33:08 The truth is that for those of us on this side, there is no when all this is over. Things are just getting started We think last Wednesday was bad? We don't know what bad is yet This isn't something you get over This is something you endure we're going to face attacks on every right we fought the last 60 years to gain the deck is so stacked against us we may not win the best week and hope for his gridlock and that's just nationally internationally who knows what this lunatic is going to do And the scarier thought is that the only thing worse than this guy, is the guy who's one angry tweet away from the presidency Mike Pence. Advocate for gay conversion therapy and mandatory funerals for fetuses So now's the time you might want to see things from my side Because if we're all going to have to be friends after this Imagine me having to be polite and respect your vote To take away my rights and freedoms and those of my friends while we fight desperately to try to hang on to them because that is what you did

33:59 There you go join the resistance of what you did that's why he did that I did that yes, and now imagine us trying to be friends Can't have it. What is the point of this? Why would she do something like this is dumb um? I think it's part narcissistic Oh apart yeah Yeah, yeah, I think its partner is a narcissistic um then I did what I wanted to read is I need to deconstruct once again what Mike Pence said. Oh, yes. I'm going to remind the producers and listeners that don't help us that we have to do this more often than not a couple of two or three times because nobody gets it the first time or it keeps coming up in the conversation. That's what bothers me the most because it's so obviously bogus

34:59 Yeah. And... You have the stage, my friend! I have the stage? Okay it all stems from the publication which is linked in the show notes 880 dot noagendanotes dot com find them all at archive dot no agenda notes dot com this is Mike Pence for Congress The Pence agenda for the 107th congress so this is from 2000 for the 2001 election and in this Pence agenda he has Here we go. He has under the heading strengthening the American family the following and this is what this is all based on now I'll ask you again John, what exactly is he being accused of when it comes to? LGBTQ plus rights Now he thinks they should all die Yeah And he thinks that conversion therapy is what we should use our taxpayer money to fund It's even worse. It was divert funds from HIV

36:03 Right. Money's version there to conversion therapy, OK? Now and people were quoting this in emails to me and then misquoting it in their interpretation was unbelievable you people really need to work on reading and understanding and words matter here we go Congress should support the reauthorization of the Ryan White Care Act only after completion of an audit to ensure that federal dollars were no longer being given to organizations that celebrate and encourage the types of behaviors that facilitate the spreading of the HIV virus. That's the first part. Now, the way this is interpreted... The people literally copying this quote and then saying what does that mean?

37:03 organizations that celebrate and encourage the spreading of HIV. But that's not what it says! It says, federal dollars will no longer be given to organizations that celebrate and encourage the types of behaviors that facilitate the spreading of a the HIV virus now you can interpret that any way you want because that's your truth and that's what's in your mind it could easily be Drug use, many different types of organizations. He has it obviously he doesn't like homosexuality that's his right but everyone in this in our country has rights the Ryan White Care Act which he says should be reauthorized is specifically intended for to give treatment to HIV victims

37:56 So he's talking about organizations that he feels there should be a, in line with his own convictions. That it should be organizations that are I guess in this case purely medical But it certainly is not talking about organizations that celebrate and encourage the spreading of the HIV virus, which I see written over and over again. The second last part resources should be directed—not redirected—should be directed towards those institutions which provide assistance to those seeking to change their sexual behavior. That does not mean if you don't want to be gay

38:38 That could mean promiscuity, that again could be drug use. It can be a whole bunch of things but it's in your mind how you want to interpret that but for sure doesn't say redirect funds and for sure doesn't say conversion therapy. Redirect is not there? No and it doesn't say conversion therapy. Yeah conversion therapies never mentioned. Again... People just reading into it Yes! It is complete delusion I'm not taking away from anyone's belief of what they think words mean, but that's it. This is what this is all about and from this...I mean in that video which you didn't see when she was talking about conversion therapy they cut to a screenshot of a page scrolling by and then zoomed in on the words conversion therapy as if he wrote that! You know what that is? That's fake news! Yeah. That's exactly what it is. Fake news.

39:39 Wait for the hook. They do it all because they need that native ad money It's a good one fabulous, I'm wrong yeah well and I should mention the The previous one was mr.. K bacon this was

40:26 Joshkin, who did that one. Hello Cleveland! Exactly. So this is just being peddled off as true-true-true and I'm sorry, I am just not reading the same thing you're reading. It certainly is not... if that's all there That's not a lot to really, you know call this guy the things that he is. I'm sure he- He is the most hateful homophobe in the country ever! In public life! In public life! Um... I am very sad to report uh.. The end of Tim Allen's career. And I always liked him. Always thought he was a cool guy What did Tim Allen do now? THE ULTIMATE SIN

41:19 Here he is. First of all, he went on Megyn Kelly's show that already puts you on the shit list. You're on the watchlist but then you do this? I'm not a spokesman for Hollywood. I'm a comedian so i get to tour around the country and I do comedy and we have a point-of-view I think your character is a conservative. Well, point of view but it's written by liberals we have liberal staff we have conservatives saying that's redundant but there they we have a sense about ourselves and that was so funny what i didn't even get the joke what did she say But comedy writers being liberals is redundant, which is... I'm telling you she thought that was a hilarious observation. Someone wrote that for her then, I guess? No! I think this is one of her one-liners and she has waiting in, you know, ah that's just redundant it's like we should give her some Confucius say

42:13 And it'd be cool if she's and she just popped it out and said Plato say that because we have a point of view I think character is a conservative web at point of view but as written by liberals. We have a liberal staff We have concern about saying that's redundant, but there is we ever since you are about ourselves? And there's a point of view and there's a place to do what I think is what I find odd in Hollywood Is that they didn't like Trump because he was a bully But if you had any kind of inkling that you were for Trump, but you got bullied for doing that. And it gets a little hypocritical to me is that now bully people and your always on the defense with this but mostly what I'm finding is there's no source material For comedians like If I want to find a joke on the show we go up river and find the joke He was against homosexual somehow

43:01 And I said, where did you... Donald Trump? Yeah. Whoever said that and he didn't wave the flag at the convention yeah the LBGT flag and i said that was unusual They've got to be with Mike Pence on that but Donald Trump no But a close associate of him I don't see it so I can make a joke about it I feel like we're playing a game I played when as kid in telephone Did you ever play that in high school? Of course When you say something at the beginning It's only funny to me because I'm a comedian. I can do this, but it is very difficult in Hollywood to find anybody any source material that would... Well how are you surviving there as somebody who is on TV as a conservative? Well I might not have been tonight

43:38 is It's like you smell bad, especially in Hollywood. Believe me I've had these they're not even discussions You get bullied into a position that I don't want to defend the guy I can't he said stupid stuff To me sometimes He acts like a new talent comedian if you ever been doing new talent show at a comedy those guys that have great material That have very very bad comedy timing

44:16 and he's got terrible timing. What do you mean? Well, he'll see... He says stuff that could be... George Lopez and I hate to doubt George, but he said a joke about it was against the wall years ago on stage it was real funny about we're going build a wall forgive me George, but the Mexicans will have to build it then that was the joke Donald says it or So, interesting perspective. Then what he says A is um...

44:59 He said, I wanted to make up jokes about him hating gays but i go looking for the source material and guess what it's not there. Uh-huh and now is that that's not necessary though if you write jokes do all comedians do that? It doesn't seem right Well, I mean you can be Sarah Silverman who I brought up earlier and just do material about him being Trump being anti-gay without the material. Just make it out right? Right well But I think he was just trying to make a point not like everybody researches their jokes. I agree. He's making a point Then he also said well You know did Did you get bullied you get bullied oh yeah? That's what exactly what you said

45:44 Yeah, um you get better bullies so Can you like Trump? He's a misogynist. He's a xenophobe It was by are you a massage in this are you as you know folk I always liked your show Tim Especially since you're a ham that nice. Well apparently he doesn't have a show anymore. You just on the road. Oh, yeah, it's the rope He's got money in the bank. I hope Finally here bar Former Congressional Black Staffer, Angela Rye on the CNN's. The Democratic Party seeks to divide and keep this country guessing for them playing for them and the Republican Party wants to have people with their eyes on horizon achieving as much as they can that's what Donald Trump represents when you look at New York City skyline This is a Trump supporter obviously You see achievement, you see Donald Trump's achievement he wants every American to be able achieve the same thing the Democratic party wants to keep it dependent on them

46:37 No, on the backs of poor people. John I have to respond to this on the backs of poor people you're talking about a Donald Trump that refused to pay contractors You're talking about a Donald Trump who used immigration laws and abused immigration laws To build these same buildings your just compared what Democrats have done whatever it is to slavery are you saying? Nothing! To slavery Democrats are slave drivers. Uh-huh, historically yeah. Done whatever that is to slavery! You're saying that Democrats and the fact that people are not who and what they should be? They haven't been able to economically thrive in this country you're comparing them to slaves?! If you want to talk about that let's talk about economic inequality and what your candidate is going to do to address some of that part of the real issue here Carl is the fact that he won't denounce white supremacy until white folks... He has how many times have you wanted him to do it?

47:28 he hasn't. He hasn't even tweeted about it, that's how he uses everything else but until he goes on a platform and says this is not the path for our future we will not be able to benefit off of the backs of poor people and continue to push this type of racist propaganda We need to call it for what it is The very people who you're talking about who you think are looking for free gifts and handouts are people who have been disenfranchised since they got off the slave ship in this country And until you recognize that Before that, we're going to continue to have this problem. Oh now you want us to pay for it? Yeah there should be reparations! You stepped on her and said exactly what she said. There should be reparations I'm happy to have that conversation but i'm sure there's not enough time in that statement. That is the most ridiculous un-American statement I've ever heard. Oh there's nothing un-American about reparations. Reparations...I think some people outside of the United States of Gitmo Nation may want to understand what that's about

48:23 Reparations, Professor Dvorak. It's paying...it's like as if you that's just a lot of ways it can there's a lot of ways you can define it but it seems to me that the major definition they're working with is the idea that 40 acres in the middle? Because of no because of slavery every generation since the Emancipation Proclamation by Lincoln Ever since then, they have been disadvantaged because of the original situation. And they've been disadvantaged in such a way that it can actually be determined in a monetary sense that they're owed money for being screwed over systematically by this system, by the government and they should get paid at compensation which is referred to as reparations

49:21 It makes some sort of sense in some way. It's just problematic because so many years have gone by and there are a lot people that... Well, but not only for that I mean if that were possible then why can't Transgendered Americans say reparations have been screwed. They could they could yeah, well That's the big fear because almost everybody Yeah, the Irish when they first came over were all hated against or related Yes And a you could make a case for reparations for everybody in the Boston area I think was only the redheads only the ginger Irish because you know they have no soul so

49:58 Yeah. So you could have all these cases made for reparations for everything pretty much, you went to a crappy school which is very possible especially in today's day and age and end up with the big student loan debt because of your situation. You're screwed! Reparations are in play. Okay, yes not fair. Not fair pay me I got untreated unfairly okay? Hey, that's why before it's gonna go nowhere because if that ever happened It would be a nightmare. I mean the whole message is bankrupt to come the country I had a thought the other night, you know where a lot of people still probably don't know the history of slavery and that it was the Republican Party. Abraham Lincoln in particular, the leader of the country at the time who, you know, they the Republican who said we got to stop slavery and the Democrats... Well did the Republican Party came out of the abolitionist movement? Yes thank you that's even better

51:00 And so Republicans were the abolitionists, Democrats were the racist slave-holding a-holes. Yes. Okay now somewhere along the line that switched and Republicans... Lyndon Johnson it's believed Okay, I'll finish the sentence. So somewhere along the line that switched and then all of a sudden Democrats became the high and mighty's and Republicans became the misogynistic racist anti-semitic horrible people? Yeah you said this came out of LBJ That's the thought. Yeah, LBJ had some recordings actually where he said that we can have... Wasn't this the Nixon Southern strategy? Wasn't that part of it? No, that was taking advantage of what LBJ was doing. Ah. LBJ with his war on poverty decided that he could set up

51:51 He believed he was setting up a system that would make the blacks vote Democratic for the next 1,000 years. And there's some recording of him talking about this and when that happened, the Republicans who were kind of screwed because they're doing this switcheroo and so they went to the Southern strategy to pull all these Democrats that were down there who are racists the Dixiecrats that make them Republicans through code words and the like, supposedly. And now I think the Republicans are pulling another quick one to get the working class to be Republicans. Well, I think that's been happening for a number of years. Well it has too because the Democrats have gone toward the yuppies and they've been... The white collar workers they hang out with the bankers and their Wall Street oriented and they don't give a crap about the workers or they just

52:43 coasting on the union support. And so that is easy enough to steal, and so I think Republicans are... Trump's the only one who noticed he could do this and he's the one who did it. And now the Republicans are thinking about maybe making this switch. The irony to this because I've thought about this with the Republicans switching over or they're, I'm sorry, their working class lower middle, middle and so on switching to be all Republicans. This makes me think that Norman Lear And here's a very interesting irony, the All in the Family show had Archie Bunker as a working class guy probably union guy who was a Republican. It made zero sense especially during that era because there wasn't a guy like that my family was this way and my dad was kind of an Archie Bunker type character not in the racist way but just he is working class died-in-the-wool Democrat you know always gonna vote party line

53:41 And that's the way all these people were. But somehow Lear decided to make him a Republican, that way he could make the connection that Republicans are racist and xenophobes and all the rest of it which has been drummed into the Democrats' heads because Archie Bunker was but there was no such guy as Archie Bunker they never existed there was no Republican working guy like Archie Bunker it was bullcrap. So I would say that that's where the switch happened Well, that's where the switch may have begun. Because it was like you're watching this guy... I think it was a mistake because you're watching this guy and some were just working class guys watching comedies going huh? Why can't he think like that too? This is a guy who has bone in his head or whatever his nickname was for the kid. It was just a tub-thumping radical.

54:29 And, you know, check out the Republicans. The Republicans were never open to it until now and now I think they're going to steal that entire part of the election. So that is exactly where I was going as it feels like with this election people will eventually wake up because you can't keep going on in your in this loop of hallucination forever. No. And then people wake up and say hold on a second the Democrats are racist I feel there's a crossover here. We won't notice this for years probably, but I believe this is the cross, the turning point." It could be! But when you have that clip you played of that bigoted comedy writer going on and on with hate — it was essentially hate speech— You have to start thinking to yourself, wait a minute...

55:17 How can you be, you know... You're pointing the finger but you're exhibiting all these qualities. You're complaining about it reminds me of that Dutch saying... Ja, wat je zegt bent jezelf met je kop door de helft. Exactly! You are what you say they are. Yeah Which is more often true than not. When you call somebody a racist, YOU ARE THE RACIST So this all fits under the header for me, the civil war that we are now in the United States. And luckily it's a civil war that is being fought out on face bag mainly so were pretty safe. Yeah its like people getting into a purse fight. Man purse! But still you know its tricky. Its very difficult to speak with people

56:10 And this is impossible. It really is, yeah So this is a form of cognitive dissonance But what I found here is a clip from Jonathan Haidt That's the professor who you had talking about how the millennials became so safe spacey The one you put in your newsletter? That guy Yeah I like him And what he does is, he's taking it I think to the logical next step. You know let's just put all the racism and all that stuff behind us... What is happening? We have rising nationalism then we've seen this arguably that's what Brexit was about. I think arguably that's what the Trump election is about

56:54 And he is a professor of ethical leadership at New York University. I'd like to play this clip of him on the psychology behind the rising nationalism, which is, I believe responsible or no, that the friction over it is responsible for the civil war that we're in right now. So the story that I tell is one in which, in a sense the globalists or the left started it. Or I should say they did things that amplified the conflicts So we have to ask why? Why even in Scandinavia are there really successful prosperous democracies having the same issues of right-wing reaction

57:30 And I think what you have to do is see, globalization doesn't just change our economies. It changes the next generation of people. So young people who are raised in peace and prosperity develop values that shift to the left. That is they begin to care about women's rights, animal rights, gay rights, the environment... so you get this very progressive set of values in the next generation. The generation before World War II They were toughened, they were changed by that in many profound ways. But their children come out caring not much about nationalism and patriotism but much more about women's rights and other issues far away so that's beautiful in many ways

58:07 But it creates a generation that really is anti-nationalist, anti-patriotic. And I think the anthem here is John Lennon's song Imagine. A lot of people, maybe more than half in any country have very different psychology. They don't find this beautiful. They find this basically a commitment to eliminate many things they love most — their nation, their culture and sense of identity. Globalists have to understand that all over the world they're doing things that trigger an authoritarian reaction." What is it that you think is the outcome of this new division of globalists versus the nationalists? Because there appears to be a sense of not just acute polarization, but actually intolerance on both sides. Yes I think they're two disastrous outcomes, two things I'm very very worried about for my country

58:56 And for all the Western democracies, it's the same thing. One is identity politics on the left has been brewing for a long time I've been a professor since 1995 at the University of Virginia and now New York University So I've watched identity politics get stronger and stronger more focused on matrices of oppression straight white males this straight white males that And after a while, as I forget who pointed out in the current election you keep treating white men as an identity group. You keep saying they're terrible they're evil and eventually they become just like another identity group and they voted their racial interest in a sense you might say so Identity politics on the left Eventually triggers identity politics on the right now what's interesting is? I picked this up from the Stanford professors face bag page

59:44 Then he actually had a comment saying, hmmm, well that'd be an interesting perspective. Which is good! Yeah well maybe he'll talk to you again someday? No doubtful. Hey but your'e civil war expert are there any parallels... I thought you studied the Civil War. I did yes absolutely You're not an expert but you studied it. Well your more expert than i That's probably true Any parallels between what we're seeing right now with this cultural divide I would say probably is very similar. I don't think this is even new

1:00:21 I think you could trace this back through the John Birch Society of the 1950s and everywhere in between. And, just...I just think it shows up in the news more. Yeah? I've never been a believer that anything we're witnessing is new. Well, and I would wager that it's really social media that is... I think the social media has amplified the problem. It really does. There's no doubt about that. Well, I do have a song. Why you just played that guy? There's a clip here. I have an entremont to move to your clip This is better if they play the clip first i think okay because it's about what he just said okay And I think the entremont would be good for moving on yeah something new and that was my plan

1:01:07 This is a couple of there's it was a thing on C-SPAN. I'm watching C-SPAN and NBC pretty much exclusively. Did you see book TV? Book TV has got some good stuff going. Book TV always has good stuff on it! And this is about Western civilization. There's a couple of professors that came on and they pointed out something interesting, first let's just play the guy from... This is the guy from Tech, professor at Texas Tech one of the few schools it turns out that actually teaches Western civilization anymore I was unaware of this until I listened to these two guys bitch about it but played his clip. Oftentimes when you kind of speak in defense of Western civilization The comeback is that your being ethnocentric

1:01:48 You're not being inclusive. You're not kind of taking in the whole global scene in which all humanity is present and I think that actually reflects a profound misunderstanding about Western civilization and what it has become. And the misunderstanding is this, to the extent that one can talk about there being a global civilization, about there being something that embraces and links together all of humankind, that something is Western civilization which has gone global because it's so powerful because it brought such

1:02:35 constructive and liberating change to the human condition. Western civilization is as close as anything could possibly be, to global civilization they're really two names at this stage of the game for the same thing Of course western civilizations roots are in a very particular part of the world In Europe in the Mediterranean and eventually in those places that were settled by Europeans. So if you looked at Western civilization circa say 1700, you would see something that was still relatively confined geographically but if you look at Western civilization today it is indeed very close to being human civilization

1:03:26 Now, the reason these two guys are talking is because they've discovered... Let's play the other guy first and then I'll explain this thing. This is the Yorktown professor. ...of whether or not or how Western civilization is taught in our colleges today. It's online and you'll be able to read it but it is a striking evidence of the move away from the basics of American civilization and participation in the West, in our premier colleges and universities. When I was an undergraduate many years ago, I had to take two semesters required courses on history of West civilization. I bought a big textbook and it was quite burdensome but on the other hand I learned something about my civilization that I would never have known. Absent that, I don't know where you're going to get this kind of information or knowledge

1:04:16 These guys pointed out, then to say around 3,000 major universities in the United States. At this point only 2,975 of them in other words all except 25 Have a course in Western civilization. They don't teach it anymore Harvard doesn't have it Princeton doesn't have I don't even think Cal has it over right they do not teach up It like the guy says they do not teach the kids about their own Civilization and this is each yeah, this is exactly about yes about African civilization They teach you about Muslim civilization they teach about all these other civilizations But they do not teach our civilization to our kid

1:04:55 That's correct. And that is why you get groups like NPI, who we'll talk about after our break putting together what is deemed as white supremacist conferences. Yeah and worse. Oh yeah! But so, and I've been blaming the schools. And I think one of the themes of our show is that the schools have not taught anybody anything. Civics is not taught like it used to be. They can't...kids can balance a checkbook they don't know how to get a checking account. They don't know how to be part of the system. They're removed from it and said we end the whole teaching of the civilization in which we work and live isn't even...we don't even know what it is! They don't teach it

1:05:39 So they can be buffaloed into all kinds of problematic lifestyles. Yes, yes. You know everything is your queer you're here get over it kind of thing that's pretty much the basis of everything as we speak and this of course is what ultimately creates our crybaby millennials but they have no foundation that's the problem We'll discuss race in a safe space, let the gender terms fly. We must adhere to social justice or die! Hope that you're not us's gendered white guy... You're not us's gendered white guy... Hey can I point something out before we go into this segment? That's William Stein-Oh by the way yes very good

1:06:37 He's got that lilting voice, which is so perfect for singing folk songs. Totally has it. So my wife comes down for Thanksgiving and she drives down from Washington. Did she bring animals? Yeah, she brought some animals. She also brought some dry goods from Washington state that you can only get at certain places- Stop! One... Which animal did she bring? She brought the big giant dog and a couple other dogs. How many in total? Three! Oh, okay... And what dry goods? Stuff you could buy at these special dispensaries in Washington that are now open to the public. That will shortly be open to the public here I thought you were sounding a little happy today No, I don't use that stuff. And um.. I'd be like, hey man, oh the light's coming in She would listen for 15 hours straight

1:07:38 of no agenda, she hasn't been listening to the show. So she is like going to Paris after you haven't been there for 10 years and you go oh this is ditching things have changed or they haven't changed. Wait a minute did she say hey that shows pretty good let me guess? No she did actually But she made some interesting comments that I have not heard. She says the show is snappier, it moves faster. She says there's more inside baseball insights material that we take for granted that is very confusing. Hard for new people to figure out yeah but I told her that, and we had to discuss this because I know that we do this on purpose. I said, well no, we do it on purpose and she always says, I said well no, we do that on purpose. And every time I say that, she goes sure you are, yeah, I think it just evolved.

1:08:24 But no, we do stuff on purpose. And I said the idea of having our own language calling people Chip instead of their real name and stuff like that... We used to use different names for Pippity Clop, for example. She says there's more of that than before and it's very confusing but she says the way you listen is what the hell are they talking about? And then something over some, something grounded in the court. The penny drops and all of a sudden it's like, Oh I see what exactly. And, and I said that this is interesting because we used to always have this problem with new listeners where the show was off putting for two or three shows in like five years ago. And so people just until they heard three shows they didn't like the show at all

1:09:10 But the feedback I get now is, I listened once and then I was hooked. And I've had that comment over and over again." Oh yeah you're right! I think it's our comedic stylings that are hooking people. Yeah so she said... It must be Plato says, you're a hook from the minute the show starts Well it's definitely a good hook at the beginning but she made some observations and I paid some attention to them You know, besides it sounded like you made a lot of money on that last show. Where's my cut? I never did. What is that what she said now? I'm just kidding. You're hoarding cash Dvorak Yeah So but but she says the shows more rapid fire and moves along a little bit It's got a quicker pace i am not totally convinced of all our observations But

1:10:07 I'm good to know that we were using more of our little secret terms that are only part of the No Agenda world, which is a way you want to create communities. And that's not putting people off from the show they just put up with it for awhile like she was doing and then eventually it comes... Oh okay oh! That's what that was about okay I get it. Well this is good feedback I thought so. Anything we should change? Any ideas? She absolutely had no ideas for anything to change. Well in that case, let me thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C!

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1:19:12 Here's one small step for no agenda and one giant leap toward my eventual knighthood. I will mention some things i'm thankful for despite John's pet peeve about this particular holiday I'm thankful for Noah Jenna keeping me sane during 2016 and for John and Adam working on their holidays like today. But feel free to take a break once in awhile, you've earned it after all these years! I am thankful for Uncle Don whose informal or perhaps unwitting contributions to the show have always made me look forward to the holidays when Adam might visit him." I did buy Don's book, Pot Shards twice. He wants to keep and wanted to give us a gift that's magnificent and should be on everyone's gift list if they like thought-provoking nonfiction and sane foreign policies." Uncle Don for Secretary of State? I'm thankful for my fellow Michigan No Agenda producers," and there is this very good group it's Local Number One.

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1:20:58 Okay, the votes or that would have been the Confucius say is funnier until it craps out which will probably shortly not So I don't want the whole which is not our song. I might add China and China and China's not our song And I have a whole bunch of other things for the end of the show But I got your comments and I'll put it together like this for you If we if we fall Okie doke, just because it sounds funny or provocative. The tweets are a bunch of okie doke. Bing bing bong bong bing bing bing You've got karma. Thank you! And our last two is Mats Kersrud in Oslo

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1:22:46 Here it is. He's got a sorry and then he says read for late donation, sorry let's read the sorry note first if karma to everyone who needs it I am in a fight for my life so karma is not needed okay I'm in, that's what he says. Now here it is read for late donation thank you again sorry for the late donation as well this came in and should bring from the last show I guess again use what you need with my letter haha I know it too long I'm just happy I can donate to the show Craig all right so

1:23:24 Oh, here is a long way. So I never donated for sure for almost a year and a half had been in a fight for who like Donald Trump as a silent killer but honestly had been fighting lymphoma since 2015 and then I wanted to donate by my treatments with chemotherapy and my naivete would death in cancer have been struggling with trying to understand what type of cancer I have so and the doctors trying to figure out how to deal with helping me due to the rarity of my strain some Native American American Indian whatever the masses call us But screw them because this has been a long fight and what I know is that you give me motivation, us to get this shit. Right on!

1:24:01 Yeah, with more hindsight and more understanding though what the hell is going on? No one knows what is going on but I want to trust your vision and progression of what lies ahead. Underline that because it's not certain but we know through your deconstructions as we as producers run an outlet on a way to see the world through a new world order. I'd like that mac and cheese for natives It's hard to donate And I did and I love bugs because we are heading that way and Adams & Johns favorite Of course fuck cancer sorry for the late donation ah Okay, and what else did he want? It was a Mac and cheese. Got that He wants the bugs bugs bugs and then a f cancer okay alright yeah man Hang in there Karma usually Love yourself love yourself That's the wrong one dash dang it

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1:27:28 No Agenda podcast stickers are now available so fans and listeners can propagate the formula with 33 classic jingles turned into iMessage badges. You don't have an iOS device, John but the kids...the women I say! Not just kids, women love the stickers Yeah, it's like an emoji only is not. It's a big sticker. A sticker of a unicorn? Oh yeah! Women love these stickers so now you can send no agenda stickers. You've got karma in the morning shut up slave hey citizen thank you for your courage they're very pretty yeah they're great I mean other their big colorful stickers

1:28:06 Keep in mind, Eric says every time someone sends one of these stickers to an iOS user they will see sent from No Agenda Podcast in their iMessage feed. This is an easy and fun way to help promote the show." I agree! They're 99 cents in the iMessage App Store Apple keeps a third of the proceeds of course but I plan to donate 50 cents per sale back to the show if they get enough traction I'd like to press them as real physical stickers for sale because they look pretty nifty in my opinion Thank you for your courage and continued dedication to media deconstruction. How cool is that? It's very cool! I'm gonna give the chat room the link so they can start on it right away a good idea, and especially like that it says sent from The No Agenda podcast yeah, that's cool Good initiative. Thank you very much producer Eric Well, I wanted to do a breakdown of course I've been watching NBC mm-hmm oh by well we're on the

1:29:08 NBC is the worst of the Trump haters. And now they've got three women, I don't remember the three different women reporters who are going after Trump. Hallie Jackson's one of them. They still have Katie Turr and then there's some that third one they're just going to everyone they do in report after report you know slamming this guy as much as they can. Slammin' but SLAM! Just to give you an idea of what NBC is kind of all about, I want to play this clip. This is Richard Engel... Yes our Peabody award winning a-hole! He's in Aleppo but no he's not actually on the computer talking to a guy in Aleppo and they're slamming the bombing of the hospital.

1:30:02 over and over again, and he's reporting on this. And at the very end of this particular clip he goes on after this but he does coach the guy to say something and then I think if just forgets to take This little tidbit out when it gets into the room to you know is editing editing booth I Think he just left us in and made a mistake I think it shouldn't have left it in but you can play this and you'll hear it at the end There is urgent new concern tonight about the situation in Syria after government forces bombed yet even more hospitals in the rebel-held part of Aleppo, leaving 250,000 people with severely limited access to critical care. The UN humanitarian chief said the situation has gone from terrible to terrifying and now barely survivable Our latest now from Chief Foreign Correspondent Richard Engel

1:30:50 Cameras captured the moment bombs hit what was one of just two hospitals left in eastern Aleppo. A team from Al Jazeera television was filming inside. Ah, good effect! Nurses faced a heartbreaking choice taking babies out of the incubators keeping them alive. Oh wait a minute!! the baby incubator ruse again. Oh yeah, man that you know what it worked well the first time you're right in case you don't know we're talking about Gulf War was at one was it the original or one to J H W Desert Storm Yeah and they had a phony person work they work for a PR daughter of a guy who ran a PR agency in New York daughter

1:31:40 Yeah, and she testified before Congress with a bull crap story. I don't understand...I guess she never got sworn in so otherwise they would throw her in the slammer for perjuring herself but it was a bull crap story that emphasized babies in the incubator Yes and it sounded like this My God! For 25 years they've been growing babies in cows No that's the wrong clip sorry Yeah, sounded kind of like that. Damn. We're leaving them in a hospital that had become a target now there's only one hospital left tonight we spoke to a member of the Aleppo Medical Council If this final hospital is bombed what will it mean for the people in eastern Aleppo? Party!

1:32:37 It will be a disaster for all of us in Aleppo. By almost any measure, this part of Aleppo under attack by the Syrian regime is already a disaster. There is no food completely... Food is running out! Okay. Wait- Wait wait wait I couldn't hear it hold on don't say anything I want to hear what he says at the end there What the hell was that? The Syrian regime is already a disaster There's no food completely... Food is running out Okay, there's bombing now. He said food is running out? Yeah he said he said if food he says there's no food and then Angle coaches him and says food is running out. Ah yeah you have to say it that way. And then guy says okay food is running out. He couldn't say it so they... It sounded like he said they're bombing now that's what it sounded like at the end. Says their bombing now

1:33:31 No, he tried. Oh I wrote the plate again maybe that's it there is no food completely running out okay There's one big now Yeah i think he says okay and then he says they're bombing down yeah yeah of course He's prompting him of course yeah you're right You know but i don't think he edited himself that's why if you were just an editor you may not have understood that was a prompt So Angle has a pee buddy. He's not gonna edit his own piece hello. It's got staff, but you might be right I never thought of somebody else Most of these guys are supposed to do their own editing I have a I have a tie-in to this bombing if you enlist the NBC stuff stays on that track

1:34:11 No, go do it with yours. This other thing, the rest of this NBC stuff is about Trump. Okay well, it's even better to two-fer. It's not just about the bombing in Aleppo! No, it's Dianne Chachachachan our favorite from Russia Today who was on the Kirby shit list As you know, we've said it the last time. Yeah he hates her Oh my goodness and he'll hear it how disdainful he is And of course she's not letting up on this Hey! You said the Russians bombed the hospitals Show us proof please He keeps saying well why don't you talk to your own military man? You fake newser Fake newsers are not the same It's state sponsored news State sponsored like the BBC Here we go Did you have a question?

1:35:00 Did you hear how he's... You have a question? You have a question? Yeah. No, he hates her. Oh damn! He hates her. Do you have questions? I'm sorry, this is completely the wrong clip. I'm noticing. Yeah, it's I'm sorry a good clip though. Well yeah, it's a great clip will get to her later The jury the jury the jury will disregard whatever the heck I was trying to do right there And we're back

1:35:50 Hey, that was fun. That was a fun adventure. Yeah it's good. Let's go with now we're going to deconstruct Lester Holt and his bevy of beauties who are just gonna go after Trump in every way on ice and I'm going to give you an example what we're gonna listen to this is as the I had a situation I'm gonna report on myself in the way that NBC is reporting John Dvorak is very stop wrong It's John C. Dvorak. John... well no, they would screw it up. They would screw it up, you're right. John Dvorak is very irresponsible. No stop! It would be John Jvorjak. John Jvorjak is very irresponsible he had a nail in his tire

1:36:34 And instead of having it fixed immediately, he drove around for a week and then pumped up the tire with an air pump on a daily basis when he could have had it fixed. But he didn't have it fixed. Why is this? Why didn't you have it fixed? He could've had it fixed. What a dick! So he finally had it fixed a week later. An entire week went by and he finally had it fixed. This man is irresponsible Sounds right. Yeah, in other words it's a meaningless who gives a crap let's start with a great tire story I like the tire story This is fact by the way back in fact

1:37:12 NBC holt Trump about face one. President-elect Donald Trump did an about face today on something that became a popular refrain at his rallies and the campaign trail, lock her up! Now backing away from his vow to prosecute Hillary Clinton for use of the private email server it was just one of many issues trump addressed today including conflict potential conflicts of interest involving its businesses we get details from NBC's Hallie Jackson She should be locked up some promises. He ran on as candidate now looking less likely as president-elect Okay, yeah she should be locked up is that this what she used as her example? She should be locked up is not a promise about anything No

1:37:58 It's not a promise. It just like wishful thinking, it seems to me she should be locked up and now she says Hallie, she goes oh the man is violated promise. Is there more about this particular promise? Because I have one thought about it. Yes sir, it continues as this report continues. Okay good good good. She brings in a little better clip but she's exemplifying she should be locked up as a promise to lock her that's not a promise it's just a comment. All right, onward. Starting with his pledge to prosecute Hillary Clinton for her email server. She has to go to jail! Now Donald Trump confirms what a source close to him first told NBC quote it's just not something that I feel very strongly about well so much for locking her up i guess trump who doesn't have the power as president to prosecute anyone tells the new york times i don't want to hurt

1:38:53 the Clintons, adding she went through a lot and suffered greatly in many different ways. Breitbart, the conservative outlet that's backed Trump is now blaring the headline broken promise with news now of maybe another one during his campaign Trump attacked a major climate deal The Paris Accord signed by nearly every nation in the world we will cancel this deal so that our companies can compete today he says he has an open mind about the deal The walk back raising questions about what he will do as president and what he's already done in his businesses and charity the Trump Foundation reporting in a new filing it violated IRS rules Tax experts say correcting that could require paying taxes and possible penalties on the business side unanswered questions about how he'd wall off

1:39:42 his personal interests from the interests of the country, suggesting on the trail it wouldn't be an issue. I wouldn't even be thinking about the business. Who cares? Now Trump's brushing aside fears of conflicts of interest pointing out the law is totally on my side. He's right. The president is exempt from conflict-of-interest laws but not from constitutional constitutional provisions forbidding foreign gifts. The president-elect today also condemned and disavowed a recent gathering here in Washington of members of the alt right, a conservative extremist movement with ties to white nationalism he added he doesn't want to do anything to energize that group Lester

1:40:23 Holly Jackson, thanks. None of the travel headaches that could be ahead for a lot of... I have a comment on this but i'm sure there's more. Well, I got 10 comments on this. This clip by the way should have been cut off earlier because it was trying to make these points individually. Um, I have one comment specifically about uh well what she's not saying is that what I've heard Trump say is I want the Clintons to heal these people need to heal I don't want to go after them.

1:41:09 Obviously, he wouldn't go after someone. It would be Congress it would be FBI... She says this in a report she makes the comment He has no power to prosecute anyone but they play that on the downside They have oh the guy wants to do this and then he's not gonna do it by the way doesn't have any power to Do it anyway? And then job I was just as she screamed and yelled She does the same thing with the taxes But she says but wait stick stay there Okay, keep going. The reason why it's checkmate is because if you have the incoming president saying, eh, just let him heal we're not gonna do anything makes it very difficult for President Obama to pardon anybody Oh yeah no I thought that too when actually when I heard this on the radio I said this may be a way to keep Obama from pardoning in advance Yes Once he's out boom thats off the table oh yeah

1:42:02 Yeah, no I think you're absolutely correct. Okay? That's all it says a ploy They don't see this they don't see this on the job even suggest it its checkmate It's checkmate Obama can't do anything now because he'll make him look all them Why did you have to pardon them if there's nothing wrong because Trump not gonna go after what was going on yeah? I'm in the total agreement on that good so let's go back to what else she says She goes on about conflict of interest oh Oh, it's all kinds of conflict of interest. Although the president does the same thing boosts an idea and then mentions that it is not illegal. And then we have another one which has really got me cracking up to myself as he may have to pay taxes and a penalty I have to pay taxes at a penalty when I file late

1:42:51 I have to do that. Yeah, yeah and now i guess technically it's a violation this is a violation of the IRS! And hold on this don't accept gifts from foreign leaders? I mean come on Hillary Clinton accepted a 75 000 necklace and wore it saying well you know we didn't want to insult this foreign leader who gave that to us come on this is bull. But that's what they're gonna use. That's because I've noticed this amongst my liberal friends. You still have some left, huh? There...I don't lose the friends over this! Oh, that's what you think. They all have meetings. Divorce Jack, what a douche. Well they may be talking bad about me now

1:43:37 They're all banking on this one emolument, I can't remember the word but it's in the Constitution that you can't take these gifts from foreigners or foreign dignitaries mostly. And I think they're all hoping to God that there is some way of connecting a hotel somewhere in Dubai or someplace that has an expensive suite that the sultan rents out to a foreign gift. They're going to try and do that, but there's no... I don't see how it happens. Well, if some foreign leader comes to DC to meet with the president and stays at the Trump Hotel, that would be a gift? Supposedly It's a room that I could rent! How is it a gift?! Am I giving him gifts too!? If you rent, then your'e gifting

1:44:25 But somehow paying for a hotel room is a gift. When it's not. Let's play clip three and see if it is a repeat. Breitbart, the conservative outlet that has backed Trump, is now blaring the headline broken promise with news now of maybe another one during his campaign trump attacked a major climate deal the Paris accord signed by nearly every nation in the world we will cancel this deal so that our companies can compete today he says he has an open mind about the deals Is this the same clip? Yeah, it is. But I want to say that off for a reason. Hold on, hold on. I'll finish it then. Stop stop it just but this spot would shut up. How come this isn't celebrated instead of condemned? What do you mean how come it's not celebrated? How come it's not celebrated always got an open mind about the climate deal fantastic now we can maybe go ahead with what we want to do well in fact It seems like as an open and very counter conservative

1:45:28 Thought pattern about all of this stuff. Yeah, why isn't it celebrated because condemned? Oh because now he's a liar Okay, whatever it just he's a liar. He lied he lied now is being kind oh Unbelievable to me we can play the last part again which I think has clipped off for a reason I mean the last part of that clip? No, no. Part four. On the business side unanswered questions about how he'd wall off his personal interests from the interests of the country suggesting on the trail... Stop! Were they playing a Rolling Stones bed? Yeah that's can't always get what you want You can't always have what you want which is one of the things he played at his things but yes i think dropping it in there was a little peculiar

1:46:16 I don't know what the video was. Maybe the video had that in the background? No, no. Wall off his personal interests from the interests of the country suggesting on the trail it wouldn't be an issue. I wouldn't even be thinking about the business. Who cares? I mean, I would actually say who cares now Trump's brushing aside fears of conflicts of interest pointing out the laws totally on my side he's right is president is exempt from conflict of interest laws but not from constitutional constitutional provisions forbidding foreign gifts. The president-elect today also condemned and disavowed a recent gathering here in Washington of members of the alt right, a conservative extremist movement with ties to white nationalism he added he doesn't want to do anything to energize that group. Lester? Holly Jackson thanks out of the travel headaches it could be a head... yeah okay it's good you can stop it Can we talk about this alt right thing for a second

1:47:11 Okay, but first let's play the goblin clip so we know what alt-right is all about. The goblin clip it is! I don't care if he has goblin guides to go into Washington. And I don't care if he gets goblin guts on him But if you catch him kissing goblins or in bed with a goblin You know that's a problem Or what if he marries a goblin? What if he has babies with a goblin? That would be what Hillary did End of show okay great Perfect perfect great excellent excellent Um, now what is I forgot? What else is all right. Yes. Okay. Sorry. Yeah. Um, so I don't really have any clips of it because if you haven't seen it, it's everywhere

1:47:55 The Atlantic magazine played a... put a video on the report that this group, NPI National Policy Institute who had a conference in DC in the Reagan Hall I believe just to make it worse. That there was a bunch of white supremacists and the video they show is of this leader guy, Spencer guy and then he... You may have a clip of it? I didn't clip it. I have a clip of it. Oh good, that should bring it up and you can use that as your base. Yeah thank you. Where is this clip? I don't know. That's interesting. Google News, stupid mannequin drug over the long expo...I do have a clip! Maybe it's this Holly Jackson clip

1:48:47 Hallie Jackson, let's take a look. Not invited today forced to fend off new questions about how the president-elect can juggle both his business dealings and the business of the country by the time he takes office as President United States everything every law will be complied with every I and every T will be done The focus is new DC hotel and a recent reception complete with Trump wine meant to woo foreign diplomats. They spent a lot of time talking about the property and how they hoped that you know this would be a property that the diplomats would use The sales pitch? Raising concerns overseas customers might stay there to win brownie points with the next president. Meanwhile, the foreign bank that financed Trump's acquisition of that property and these others is under investigation by the Justice Department a department Trump will oversee come January. Trump's name not just on hotels here at home but around the world 15 properties

1:49:44 properties internationally with a lucrative deal in Turkey and business ties in Saudi Arabia, even as he assailed the Clinton Foundation for its links to the foreign government. Why don't you give back the money that you've taken from certain countries? Some of Trump's biggest business deals coming from India pictures now surfacing of some Indian business partners visiting last week despite the president-elect in the thick of transition talks at Trump Tower The conflicts that are going to follow from his ownership of the Trump Organization while serving as president are pervasive. They're obvious, they're foreseeable Separately, late tonight different video is surfacing that's raising some concerns. It shows an alt-right conference here in Washington where one of the speakers praised Donald Trump with language similar to that used in Nazi Germany For us as Europeans it is only normal again when we are great again! Hail Trump! Hail our people! Hail victory

1:50:42 People in the crowd responding with straight-arm salutes. That speaker, Richard Spencer telling NBC News he intended his words to be ironic and exuberant insisting the alt right is not a neo-nazi movement adding Trump has been good for them A Trump spokesperson responding to that conference says President Elect Trump has continued to denounce racism of any kind and he was elected because he will be a leader for every American Lester This is a callback to what we were talking about earlier. I looked into these guys, I watched the whole lot of video. Can I mention one thing about the video that they were showing? Yeah sure! This guy says hail Trump and then about three arms out of maybe 200 people go up like a Nazi salute as far as i'm concerned when the number's that low and not everybody all of a sudden did it in other words there were shills they could have been from the democrat side for all I know

1:51:38 Not only that, but okay. So I look this is Richard B Spencer He's the president and director of the National Policy Institute NPI America org And what these, first I'll tell you what these guys are about. They're about exactly what we were talking about... About white culture and that you know we have black Americans Chinese-Americans Irish Americans everyone's got a culture in the club and it's okay and they're saying hey we're European culture and this is who we are and this is our identity And they claim over and over again, they do not hate anybody. They're not anti-Semitic in fact the part of the video has a couple of Jews who were at the conference doing the Hail Trump as well. Tequila is doing this now

1:52:31 What and I've heard several interviews, but the guy's boring. Yeah And he's backpedaling because look you're a dick if you want to have a white culture Group fine no problem But you know that this this kind of behavior is going to make you look stupid You know that and now what he's saying the message everywhere well This was ironic it was a joke people are just exuberant and they were happy and you know just a hail Trump We're happy It has nothing to do with white nationalism. And so some people go, hail Trump! Which we do that with Hail Apple and let's be honest the song that is played when the president comes in is Hail To The Chief. So it's not like the word hail and what they call the Roman salute is completely out of the ordinary. Yeah good point about the Hail To The Chief. That's our song, Hail To The Chief.

1:53:26 for this confusion that they've created, a bunch of A-holes. It's stupid! You know better than that and if you don't you're an idiot." And I listened to the guy listening he has to say it doesn't interest me. There is too much undertone. I really don't like it. I really don't but... It could be a plant Yeah but they have a point they have a point about what they're doing. It's just the way the media immediately portrayed that was as if there's a bunch of crazy racists out there and, of course, they want the president-elect to stand on some podium national platform something big and say everyone who hates I hate them or something i'm not quite sure what they want. I think you should just put a one line quote on the front of his website

1:54:15 Yeah. Saying I denounced white supremacy, done! Good idea. And it's on the page one of the website you said go to trump dot com you'll see... I'm gonna put it right now It's donaldjtrumpdotcom I'm going write that down One liner right because he has a damn what is it? He's selling T-shirts and hats still before you hit this site with a splash page so put it right there They should make t-shirts. I denounce racism Ben, white nationalist. Then they just refer to the website it's on the website what more can i do? Yeah we would say... What's more powerful than that yeah make new hats Make a new hat! Make America great again. No agenda. Make America great again and uh die don't like uh the racists. I don't know do something please

1:55:08 Yeah, because we're sick of this. Really? But I'm also sick of everyone being called a racist for everything! There's nothing wrong with people wanting to explore their European identity there is a lot wrong with setting yourself up for being called a Nazi you just morons stupid and stupid and i think that they do it to get attention but I don't like any of that I don't like them I don't like it yeah I think we got the point But perhaps much more important than any of that is what took place in the European Union this week. A number of very important votes and a resolution, and it is indeed the resolution that we need to speak about. Okay but can I intro that with the question time that happened? It's about stalling Brexit in Parliament? Has nothing to do with my clip but sure! It might, at least you should listen to it...

1:56:06 Thank you Mr Speaker. On the 23rd of June, my constituents voted by a margin of 62% to 38% to leave the European Union Many of those people are unhappy and frustrated at what they see as delaying tactics by some Remainers who don't seem to understand the meaning of the word democracy. Order! This is very discourteous, it's very discourteous The Honourable Gentleman has a legitimate question and that question and every other question should be fully and with politeness heard.

1:57:02 by the people, especially rule of the majority. With that in mind what reassurance can my right honourable friend give my constituents and me that article 50 will be triggered by March next year? I'm clear that we will trigger article 50 by the end of March next year but my honourable friend is absolutely right to make the key point. A referendum was decided it was decided by this Parliament six-to-one The people should have the opportunity to vote on membership of the European Union. The vote was held, the turnout was high, the public gave their verdict There must be no second referendum No attempt to weasel out of this This is the government that will deliver on the vote of the British people. Angus Robertson! Wow well that's nice

1:57:52 That's good. Bull crap, and I was right has nothing to do with what I'm about to oh, sorry that's okay actually halfway through the clip by realize it is the case because you're not going to be talking about Brexit no at least it's out of its other way I don't have any more say about all good it's all good No, the European Parliament MEPs who have pretty much zero power but they still do things like pass resolutions. Based upon the resolutions thing start to happen mainly money comes starts to happen money happens And here is... I think, yeah. I do have a clip to back you up if you're done because now I know where you are going. Russia and Islamist terrorist groups are increasingly targeting the EU with propaganda this the warning in a resolution approved by MEPs which aims to combat anti-Europe campaigns it says Moscow spreads propaganda through media and other means seeking to incite fear

1:58:49 to explain how various Russian entities, Russia TV, Sputnik and so on are trying to influence the audience in Europe. They're trying to split Europe and United States they're trying to belittle what European Union is doing The resolution says propaganda aims to discredit EU institutions Moscow has been quick to react, with President Putin claiming the move says a lot about democracy in the West. We're observing some totally obvious degradation he says... In the political sense of this word. Of the perception of democracy in Western society, at least at the level of European Parliament."

1:59:36 MEPs say Russia has stepped up its anti-EU propaganda since annexing Crimea. They're now suggesting more awareness raising, education and investigative journalism So, obviously there's a lot going on in this resolution that is a problem. And before we get to that one of the targeted organizations that this resolution was created for is of course Russia Today Here's RT's editor-in-chief We are extremely disappointed and this is really outrageous. We're disappointed at how easily the European establishment gives away its own principles

2:00:14 The principles that we've been hearing for ages, for decades. The principles about which Russia has been lectured for years, for decades and now... ...we see that this holy principle of freedom of speech is not really needed and looks scary to Europeans themselves This is very very sad Very very sad yes And of course this a fine case of what you say ben jezelf met je kop door de helft Because we know that there's tons of propaganda outfits that are certainly funded by the United States, Voice of America just to mention one. But anyway John I thought it'd be fun to run through this resolution. Yes... You were afraid you already knew it was coming didn't ya? Here we go! This is a motion for a European Parliament resolution on EU strategic communication to counteract propaganda against it by third parties

2:01:06 So they always have a lot of whereas's and assumptions. Here are some of the assumptions, whereas the EU as member states and citizens are under growing systematic pressure to tackle information disinformation and misinformation campaigns in propaganda from countries and non-state actors such as transnational terrorist and criminal organizations in his neighborhood which are intended to undermine the very notion of objective information or ethical journalism, casting all information as biased or an instrument of political power and which also target democratic values & interests. This is some serious shit man! Whereas, media freedom—access to information and freedom of expression are the basic pillars of a democratic system in which the transparency of media ownership and sources financing of media are of utmost importance. Really? Whereas strategies to ensure quality journalism, media pluralism, and fact-checking can only be effective as long as information providers enjoy trust and credibility." You see where this is leading, can't you?

2:02:08 Yes. Whereas information warfare is a historical phenomenon as old as warfare itself, whereas targeted information warfare against the West... Is Thor mad? I thought this sound effect would be appropriate Whereas with Russia's annexation of Crimea and the Russian-led hybrid war in the Donbass, the Kremlin has escalated the confrontation with the EU. Whereas the Kremlin has stepped up its propaganda war with Russia playing an enhanced role in the European media environment aimed at creating political support in European public opinion for Russian action and undermining the coherence of EU foreign policy.

2:02:53 This is the f-russia bill resolution I should say We're getting they can't tell their side of the story. Yes Whereas the financial crisis in the advance of new forms of digital media have posed serious challenges for quote quality journalism bleeding to a decrease and critical thinking among audiences thus making them more susceptible to disinformation and manipulation we're under attack I guess. Whereas the propaganda war and the intrusion of Russian media is particularly strong and often unmatched in the countries of the Eastern neighborhood? Okay, now we're going to go down a bit here. So what? What do you mean so what? So what is that...I think they're trying to imply that the Russians don't have this same side of opportunity. They aren't playing the BBC on the Kremlin TV. Well they are saying that the Russians...this is all anti-Russia

2:03:49 recognizes that the Russian government is aggressively employing a wide range of tools and instruments such as think tanks and special foundations, special authorities, multilingual TV stations, pseudo news agencies and multimedia services cross-borders social and religious groups. As the regime wants to present itself as the only defender of traditional Christian values Social media and internet trolls To challenge the democratic values divide Europe. Okay now let's get to some of the things we want to do okay, wait, let's just stop for a second you're talking about a Syndicate media syndicate like Sputnik yes Which I would recommend people follow and they named actually name Sputnik by name Yes, but Nick and then yeah an obscure on The Dish Network for example is channel 280

2:04:39 An obscure news outlet called RT is this is a huge threat to the machine in Europe. Uh-huh, it is so then they talk about the action plan on strategic communication and the It's actually called the joint framework on countering hybrid threats Which I'm not going to get into now But here are some of the things they need emphasis that more funding is necessary to support freedom of the media in the European neighborhood policy countries within the scope of EU democracy instruments. Calls on the Commission, in this respect to ensure the full exploitation of existing instruments such as The European Instrument for Democracy and Human Rights, Eastern Media Partnership Media Freedom Watch and the EED with regard to protection of media freedom and pluralism." So they got groups to do this

2:05:32 underlies the need to strengthen media plurality and objectivity impartially and independence of the media within the EU in its neighborhood, including non-state actors inter alia through support for journalists. And the development of capacity building programs for media actors Fostering information exchange partnerships and networks such as content sharing platforms, media related research mobility and training opportunities for journalists. And placements with EU-based media to facilitate exchanges of best practices They want to control journalism. The licensing comes next

2:06:12 Highlight the important role of quality journalism education and training inside and outside the EU in order to produce quality journalistic analysis and high editorial standards. Let's get to the last few ones here... This resolution underlines that incitement of hatred, violence or war cannot hide behind freedom of expression encourages legal initiatives to be taken in this regard, to provide more accountability when dealing with disinformation. That means judicial... Oh! Legal initiatives to be taken in this regard so there's speech but speech that has to be legislated

2:06:59 Yeah, this is leading again to licensing. And here we go the final one I think it's a final one resolution calls on the commission to advance certain legal initiatives in order to be more effective and accountable in dealing with disinformation and propaganda, and to use the mid-term review of the European Neighbourhood Instrument to promote strengthening resilience of media as a strategic priority. Calls on the Commission to conduct thorough review of efficiency existing EU financial instruments and to come forward with a proposal for a comprehensive and flexible solution which can provide direct support, direct financial support to independent media outlets think tanks and NGOs especially in the target group native language enabling the channeling of additional resources to organizations that have the ability to do so such as The European Endowment for Democracy. And they also say

2:07:55 We should be curtailing financial flows aimed at financing individuals and entities engaged in strat com activities, incitement to violence and hatred. Calls on the Commission to conduct a thorough audit of the efficiency of certain big-scale media projects funded by the EU such as Euronews." This is astounding to me! Astounding! the commission and this resolution believes that... Is it astounding, but is it a surprise? No not to me. But they're codifying this what's astounding is where's the outrage Oh no one's going to read And by the way shouldn't we receive some of this funding if they're gonna be giving it to independent media producers who are trying to you know give everyone fair shake You know that's what you'd think but it turns out in all these things we've noticed this before

2:08:49 Well, they talk a big game about giving money to this guy and that guy. They're only going to give money outlets that have been pre-approved run by their pals with its specific agenda that meets their needs. They're not gonna give money to any other people other than these corrupt little core group. And when you give direct financing which is coming directly from the European financial instruments When you're funding journalists, teaching journalists what are you teaching them? Doesn't anyone have a concern with this?" I know. But i'm asking... There was a minority opinion this past resolution doesn't mean for what it means

2:09:30 But there was a minority opinion, so the minority votes had a couple lines here. They say we have a problem with this report identifies two threats regarding propaganda state actor namely Russia and terrorist groups such as Daesh and there's a whole section on ISIL and Daesh So they say, it is irresponsible to place a state like Russia on the same level of threat as Daesh. Totally agree promotes the EU race for free trade agreements in East neighborhood and beyond promoting this an escalation of tensions with Russia and its Eurasian Economic Union Yeah, of course it's raising tensions with Russia It does not recognize its own propaganda on EU democracy as the only one possible, which highlights a presumed superiority that may be offensive. And it pledges paradoxically for independent medias to be supported by the EU." Yes absolutely and is very rude towards Russia. I don't know what the deal is? Well I know what the deal is complete control! What do you mean you don't know what the deal is? It's complete control! Well that's...I guess the deal and then pipelines

2:10:36 Well, today though. Well before you stay on this topic for just another second C-SPAN had this little meeting at the Aspen Institute run by the guy who seems to write way too many books for a guy with... Who was hosting? Was it one of like...? No it's the guy! It was that guy, the guy who wrote Steve Jobs' book what's his name? Oh yeah that guy The guy runs the Aspen Institute he was hosting there were a bunch of journalists and they were asking each one Well, how do you keep political bias out of the reporting? And nobody had a good answer. And then the worst guy, of course was Marty Baron, the guy who runs the executive editor of The Washington Post which is completely

2:11:18 You know biased to the point where Trump had to kick him off. They couldn't even let him get credentialed, right? so they had to wait in line at the Trump rallies next like everybody else Get in and they did and they bitched about it because they wanted their special treatment But I thought you might want to hear what Marty Baron says about this Or would Google on news, Google had a representative talking about how they deal with bias and how they keep it out. Okay which one? Let's do the Marty Baron first okay so I don't think that we will ever escape allegations that we suffer from political bias because that's just the nature of the environment at the moment particularly during a presidential campaign

2:12:03 But I don't even, and we do have layers of editing where people act as internal checks on others if they detect a bias in stories. And we endeavor to guard against it- It's not what the editorial levels are about. What are editorial levels about? To keep the facts straight, not to show bias...it's not about bias. The bias sneaks in anyway. It's to make sure that you're using right words and all that piece of reads well and it doesn't have a buried lead. And you have different people looking at in New York Times that they used to have more people like you'd go through three or four. So what you're saying is the job is not to stop, uh... Not just stop bias. We do have layers of editing where people act as internal checks on others if they detect bias and stories and we endeavor to guard against it. And it's part of our code of ethics and part of our principles at The Post

2:12:58 The way that I see it is our mission is that we need to be honest, honorable and fair in our reporting. And fairness involves being open to what people are saying, listening to them closely giving them a hearing and a fair hearing. But ultimately we do the reporting, and then we have an obligation to tell people in a very straightforward way what it is that we found, what the evidence actually shows, not to pussyfoot about it or be timid about it but exactly what the evidence shows and tell them straight. And when we talk about fairness my view

2:13:45 Let's be fair to the public too. And that part of being fair to the public is telling them in a straightforward way what the results of our reporting were, what we found and so I believe that that's absolutely central to our mission. I don't think that we should shy from that and I don't think that we should shy from it simply because someone as a result may accuse us of political bias." Barring your reality from things we find inconvenient. This is fake news. Yeah, pretty good another Williams stagno all right now the Google guy yeah the Google girl oh Google who is she do we know? Nah she's just another I don't even think as I listen to her that she knows what she's talking about She's just one of these kind

2:14:39 pretty spokesperson for the company and represent with some high position I think from Google's perspective We're not a news organization Google's mission however is to organize the world's information and make it universally accessible And useful which is not dissimilar from their mission was to make money off of advertising but goal in now that was all that Was always their mission there was always their mission. I think Yeah, that's what they've always said. Yeah there is nothing to do with going to Mars. Versatily accessible and useful which is not dissimilar from many news organizations but because many people around the world come to Google for information we absolutely cannot have any type of bias whatsoever and I think that you know what you see on Google search or what you see on Google News it's algorithmically generated and is meant to show whatever news articles

2:15:33 the algorithm surfaces. Real quick, Olivia? Can algorithms have biases? Well I think right. Obviously there is a human being who's creating those algorithms and that has been a healthy topic of discussion and very valid one which is that every algorithm is a series of choices but there are literally hundreds of signals going into into Google search results. I mean, it's not just a simple matter by any means in fact it is so complex and changes every week so we can't even describe what all the different factors are that go into it but its many many.

2:16:11 It's important that when you come to Google, you are able to get information across many different perspectives. Whether it be different news organizations with different political leanings or to Sterling's point of first person perspectives if you go on YouTube I mean we're meant to be a portal for the world's information and that can mean a lot of different things. Fake news made up false stories fake news. Unreliable source fake news soundbites and snippets. Fake news, fake news, fake news, fake news infect the left and the right. That's right Tom Starkweather good work Yeah something about there was an article in The New York Times Regarding this very issue And I totally disagree with what she said so many many algorithms many many bullshit here's the problem with the algorithm since destroying you

2:17:01 And this is written by Jenna Wortham. I won't read the whole article, but she says... So what she says, actually read this next little piece here. Each time I... In hindsight that failure makes sense. I spent nearly 10 years coaching Facebook and Instagram and Twitter on what kinds of news and photos i don't want to see and they all behaved accordingly each time I liked an article or clicked on a link or hit another the algorithms that curate my streams took notice and showed me only what they thought I wanted to see That meant I didn't realize that most of my family members who live in rural Virginia were voicing their support for Trump online

2:17:59 I didn't see any of the pro-Trump memes that were in heavy circulation before the election. I never saw a Trump hat or sign or T shirt in my feeds and the only Election Day selfies I saw were people declaring their support for Hillary Clinton." And it goes on, its'a good article... That is the problem! You created your own little echo chamber with the algorithm. Thats why these things are not good you have no serendipity but thats not what the Google lady's gonna say And this is exactly what I said, I think on two shows ago that this will eventually remove advertisers desire to even be on the social networks. It'll be too narrow a band of interest." Well that's what they've always been wanting! They talk big game about the narrow band but then when it comes down to it they well maybe get some new customers those people already bought our product yeah yeah well thanks for saving my two clips

2:19:00 What do you mean saving them? I'd like to... They were okay. He saved my clips. That's okay. They were pointless! No, they weren't. So they weren't. I want to take a break but i have a couple things to catch up on. Well, I also want to tease the after-the-break when I talk about Thanksgiving. Of course you are. But not this same old story. I'm gonna beef it up with my current pet peeve. I like it good good good right okay um many many Michael Flynn. So, you know we deconstruct these things like Pence and on the last show you did a pretty good deconstruction of how the fake news known I think that was it was that NBC maybe made it sound like Mike Pence called all of Islam a cancer where he was really talking about radical Islamic cancer yes so but I found a more recent clip and he's got to watch

2:19:55 He's got to watch it because I think he, you know... You can interpret this clip however you want but i think he did not do a good job and if this is what he really means yeah that's a big uh-oh. I like Flynn but this is not okay. Islam is a political ideology It definitely hides behind this notion of it being a religion And I have a very, very tough time because...I don't see a lot of people screaming Jesus Christ with hatchets or machetes or rifles shooting up clubs. Or hatcheting literally axing families on a train. Or like they just killed a couple police officers with a machete! It's unbelievable so we have a problem it is like cancer and I've gone through cancer in my own life

2:20:46 And so it's like cancer. And it's and it's like a, it's like malignant cancer though in this case that has metastasized. So I just said the number of attacks in 22 countries in just the last 45 days. When I look back over the last 10 years or 15 years of my life and things that I've seen and the things that I've witnessed against this very vicious threat." So if he had started off by saying radical Islam or radical Islamic terrorism, but he didn't do that. He didn't do that so I'd like to know what he really means." Didn't like it? That's not okay. Well, he'll be a little more...I didn't mind it at all but he'll be a little more circumspect now that he got a job. Then Trump is meeting people coming into his golf club in New Jersey and I could not be happier

2:21:45 that Tulsi Gabbard went to see Trump. I love this girl, this woman and if there was to be a female president she needs years of... She needs to get some experience in what she's doing eventually maybe eight years. Is your fave? Yeah! I like her a lot. She is a Democrat who doesn't take any crap and so she went to see Trump and of course she's now an Uncle Tom Cheers, Uncle Tom. And so this is Chris Matthews talking about that meeting with Howard Dean the guy who called Trump a Nazi and he says something here it's a political quip maybe that's the right word quip

2:22:28 It's like a quip is like a little stinging joke. You could say, like, a little comment. We have to put it's meant to be funny, meant to be funny but is and I can remember I distinctly recall this kind of quip being made in my family around Thanksgiving when we had a lot of the intelligence people in the room because it would be on be there and everything which then via cool whip who yeah cool whip Yeah, cool whip. Oh we could do that gag for an hour quip And you'll hear it as just I was like holy crap That's political bullcrap jokes if I ever heard one said thank you what today Trump met with Democratic Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii This is amazing what they're going on here? Gavin released a statement after the meeting saying while the rules are political expediency would say should have refused to meet with president-elect Trump I never have and never will play politics

2:23:22 with American and Syrian lives. For years the issue of ending interventions, regime change warfare has been one of my top priorities let me be clear I will never allow partisanship to undermine our national security when the lives of countless people lay in abyss." There's a woman, a politician Kelsey who is very anti-intervention like yourself what about this Middle East thing which she's against the whole regime change number And now she's going there with a way of maybe saying, maybe we can cut a deal with Russia. Maybe there is a way to somehow end the bloodshed in Syria and keep us out? Well I mean- That's what she believes though isn't it? She's an interesting person and people from Hawaii basically have her tabbed as extremely ambitious with flexible principles Really? Yeah! I mean she was leftie for Bernie and now she's talking about running against Mazey Hirono who is a left wing or liberal senator from Hawaii so who knows what this all about

2:24:11 extremely ambitious with flexible principles. That is... It just hit me that is like one, that is such a typical beltway insider bull crap thing to say. Quip? Quip! Yes it's a quip really oh man and what... That should be... It's talking about celebr- that should be celebrated! It's fantastic that he's doing that. I would say yes to that, yes. Alright before we go to break uh want to play one more of our entries for the suck it up buttercup jingle Which has been just fabulous. Everyone has done such a great job, but we will be critiquing them this one will take us into the break zone This is original music I believe which is quite impressive And this one comes to us from Tyler and Kyle suck it up buttercup

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2:36:38 I like the little mid late 50s sound a little maybe mid 60s sound. They got little doo-wop in there not much you could have used more. I did like the why don't you grow a pair? I thought that was a good lyric. Why don't you grow up and grow up, grow a pear baby. Okay, I need to say one thing because people are getting very angry at me specifically and it's bothering me okay pizza gate Oh, pizza gate. People need to understand that for nine years I have been all over every single pedo bear pedo ring story there is. Longer than that and you bring it into this show often so i don't see... You've got a complete pass on this

2:37:31 But so nobody should be complaining. This is an example of the hallucinations of the other side You are hallucinating There's all kinds of creepy pictures on the internet. Congratulations, you found him! There's all kinds of creepy art... there's all kinds of things going on I just have not seen any actual proof when i looked at dootroo when i looked at the rolodex files and look at the isle of jersey I've uh... I'd looked into the bush white house Boys Town? Boys town! We've been talking about boys town in the documentary for years

2:38:10 I'm telling you, you're fooling yourself. Until i see some actual evidence it's just not there! People keep saying the following thing well it's weird coincidences... You're not connecting the dots? Well I connect the dots that's what I do and people are saying that I'm compromised and probably a pedophile. I get the most horrible things. Horrible! You know, and people... I'm not donating anymore. Get a lot of that too until you're not- Oh as usual those people never donated in the first place Of course Which irks me But what's sad is that i'm actually the guy who does this all the time Yeah, more than I do And now.. yeah, you've actually privately said back off a little bit

2:39:04 I can remember that distinctly. That was years ago? Yeah, well i was doing a lot of it! That's because you were getting carried away yeah? You were...yeah because that's how much you were doing it yeah but you really go down the rabbit hole and again got into an argument with Ancilla just to show you. Yes, yes you would and here's what happened so she says pizza gate and I text her back said yeah this i just don't see any evidence and she comes out with a whole thing but look at the creepy pictures and here's an article that sums it up and nothing sums it up other than there's creepy pictures and it's around this pizza pool place and Podesta went there and had a pizza party in your mind you're creating something that there is no real evidence for

2:39:49 And so I said, well you know to be honest Ansela if someone only had pictures of you like your Instagram the way it used to be because she was a fetish model. I'm pretty sure they could come up with the whole storyline about you Oh that would have pissed her off oh my god! Said your insulting. So i'm just trying to give an example Yeah. So anyway, just so you know I have looked at this very extensively...very extensively! The funniest one is where they have so-called sketches from the Madeline McCann abductors in Portugal if you remember that case from 10 or 11 years ago and it looks just like Tony and John Podesta because they looked like that ten years ago. It's crazy

2:40:39 It's crazy. I'm sorry, don't forget anyone has a problem at AdamMcCurry.com Yeah He is ignoring the obvious The Pizza Gate disaster And just keep hounding him Thank you! It's part of my brand That's right Part of my brand So I'm sorry, really sorry. If you got something, I'm open to it but you don't need to send me the links to the Reddit and you're spinning around... The kid with their hands taped to the table was the photo of- The person who took that picture was his kid and it wasn't taped It's all disturbing You can look at anything and think its disturbing Please! Especially those of you who know there are people certainly the hillbots are in complete hallucination world Your're on your own with that

2:41:24 Believe me, if I could find a way to pin this on Podesta, I would be jumping for joy! Yeah. I think you made your point. You haven't- I'll forward some of this crap to you No no no no keep talking then. You wanna talk more? Go. Oh my god yes! Alright here's something that kind of bothers me...I do want to get into the Thanksgiving stuff but I don't know where i got this but these are old, this is an old very like at least a year-old interview with Hannity. This was before the 911 28 pages were released and this is Trump. A Trump old interview about 911

2:42:08 And I'm listening to this thinking, wait a minute. We've got a lot of dudes named Ben that help us and over a year ago I was trying to get access or just view online anything to get a look at the 28 pages And it was all like you get feedback, like oh no. It's actually they're gonna lock anyone up who even sees this thing! You can't get access to it I can't even see... None of the guys that would normally be able to get into this system just get this report out nothing could get in there until it came out

2:42:44 And we read it. I didn't get to see it, but I have the sneaking suspicion that somehow along the lines Trump who now and of course We think maybe allied with the NSA and the FBI I got a look at this because just this is report here This interview he did having now read there's the 28 pages He obviously had a copy of it hmm as evidence that happened. I don't know but it's in this report I guess Yep.

2:43:26 I think you will find out when that's opened, I think you're going to find out that Saudi Arabia had a lot to do with the ripping down of the world. Would you open that? Oh, I think you're gonna find it also used the word which was he changed in his later commentary but he used a word in there that also caught me at right let me hear it's at the end that little thing says at the end You'll hear the word and there is an anomalous word that he uses that you'll pick up on if you now listening for it okay let me listen Let me ask you this, um... You actually said something that really intrigued me. There's still 28 pages of the 9-11 Commission report Right That have never been revealed I got the impression that you knew something maybe we don't know about the Saudis' involvement Um, I think you will find out when it's opened, I think you're gonna find out that Saudi Arabia had a lot to do with the ripping down of the world Would you open that if you became president? With the ripping down? Yeah Ripping down Ripping down of the towers? Yeah Huh

2:44:25 Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha borderliner, borderliner. I know where that's see, I'm all in on that people ripping down, ripping down. Uh huh. Uh huh. Say no more? Yeah. Now you might as well play part two where he also reiterates his position about the 28 pages and says yeah we should release them but i listen to these two clips and say he had the 28 pages how did In all fairness, we went after Iraq. They did not knock down the World Trade Center okay? It wasn't the Iraqis that knocked down the World Trade Center We went after Iraq, we decimated the country Iran's taken over okay But it wasn't the Iraqi's You will find out who really knocked down the World Trade Center because they have papers in there that are very secret you may find its the Saudis Okay but you will find out

2:45:26 Yeah, well I think that and what year was this? This was at the beginning of his campaign very early on over here. I'm sure tons of people had seen it hmm maybe Hmm. I went out on my way to get a look at and I couldn't get anywhere right But he sounds like you had a copy got in his pocket there You want read it yeah hey check this out with ya Okay, now I want to do my Thanksgiving thing. Yeah? Now you're gonna do the Trump thing too what trump thing I see oh I thought you had a trump did a thanksgiving meeting video He's been doing videos that you know he's been doing videos yeah, he's been doing these videos like they find it very tedious He's obviously using a prompter is not very good at reading from it hmm And he's you know it's not this trump. I like okay all right You would rather say hey

2:46:20 Yeah, I'd rather have him say A. Exactly! You want the funny guy? You want the... I want the other Trump. Who makes for good clips that Trump? Yeah, I want the clippable Trump. The clippable Trump. I agree. Hey come on Trump So let's start off with Obama trying to do a stand-up routine. First of all, anyone who wants to look this up just to summarize Thanksgiving is a bogus holiday it was created it was first created during Lincoln's administration as a day of remembrance for the dead soldiers in the Civil War called Thanksgiving we're supposed to give this... It has got nothing to do with Indians having a meet-up Hold on so it's actually a war remembrance day?

2:47:02 It started as a war remembrance day and then it got re-invited, restarted every so often. And it became a national holiday after from the 1930s they would try to make it a holiday and then I think is finally codified as one maybe during the ice age. Now it's all in the documentation we go to Dvorak dot org slash blog and look up Thanksgiving there are two or three articles that wrote on it. But its now of course transitioned into a sales event Well, now it's a sales of it. That's true when I was a kid, I never heard of Black Friday but the this thing about the Indians and so Thanksgiving for whatever is all made up as bull crap holiday. I've always hated Thanksgiving for years. I've always hated. I don't like having to big dinner or I don't like him and they always cook turkey you know? No not true! Not true! You once cooked a goose

2:47:52 I have cooked a goose once. Yeah, so? And I cook it but a goose is more traditional with red cabbage on Christmas and it's kind of a German thing. Yeah. And goose by the way is a fantastic bird to eat Yes not to keep as pet they're no good as pets Well you can keep them as pets but they are very mean and noisy So let's start with Thanksgiving yes... Thanksgiving Obama stand up routine Let's get this out of the way So much everybody please have a seat For generations, presidents have faithfully executed two great American traditions. Issuing a proclamation that sets aside Thursday in November for us to express gratitude and granting pardons that reflect our beliefs in second chances and this week we do both Of course Thanksgiving is a family holiday as much as a national one so for the past seven years I've established another tradition

2:48:52 embarrassing my daughters with a cornucopia of dad jokes about turkeys. This year, they had a scheduling conflict. Actually they just couldn't take my jokes anymore! They were fed up. Fortunately I have by my side here today two of my nephews, Austin and Aaron Robinson who unlike Malia and Sasha have not yet been turned cynical by Washington. They still believe in bad puns they still appreciate the grandeur this occasion

2:49:37 They still have hope. Malia and Sasha, by the way are thankful that this is my final presidential turkey pardon What I haven't told them yet is that we're going to do this every year from now on! No cameras just us every year no way I'm cutting this habit cold turkey Thanks Obama. Worst thing ever yeah so I listen to this thing where you did the joke writers already leave the administration is that the idea? I think so, if this was not material then anybody would pay for it's terrible but he used the word generations generations which implies at least 60 years because that's

2:50:24 You can't do generations 30 years or so, 60 to be true. So for more than 60 years they've been pardoning turkeys? Yes Well I've been questioning some of this...so i'm listening to this thing here listen to this Thanksgiving... Now just a second because I don't know if everyone realizes outside of the United States that, you know as a part of the Bogative whole idea. You know it became a war on Turkey Day and everyone has to eat turkey and then for some unknown reason which I think we're going to find out now the President of United States for as long as i can remember has pardoned turkeys so we're not going to kill you turkeys which is yeah an odd thing although I've always felt that fits with our bloodthirsty nature

2:51:06 I think so too. So we got a bogus holiday, now we have this bull crap about pardoning turkeys... This really galled me! And then you hear stuff like this here's the replay of this clip. This is Thanksgiving more BS CNBC. They'll live out the rest of their days on Virginia Tech's Gobblers Rest exhibit. Tater and Todd my all One of the great traditions. We don't pardon people, we just put them on the electric chair

2:51:52 But turkeys, oh. It's one of our great traditions. It is a great tradition. John the question is this a great tradition? Well I think you got one more pre-clip because it turned out I guess, I wasn't the only one questioning this bull crap about the turkey pardons being a great tradition. In fact the tradition of naming that turkeys is only recent and then in the whole Turkey pardoning thing turns out to be bull crap and so far as generations are concerned or it being a great tradition it's worse than the holiday itself

2:52:28 Now we can play this pre-clip or we just go right into the explanation, which is a little lengthy. But coincidentally PBS did an investigative report on this and they came up with all of all the real answers that we could discuss it after we play Thanksgiving more BS Turkey Party. Before President Obama and his family gather for Thanksgiving today, he made time for an executive duty. His final pardoning of the turkey as commander in chief The annual tradition sees two lucky birds spared from the dinner table, but only one is selected to take part in the ceremony. Malia and Sasha by the way are thankful that this is my final presidential turkey pardon What I haven't told them yet Is that we are going to do this every year from now on

2:53:16 No cameras, just us every year. No way I'm cutting this habit cold turkey." The tradition has happened every November for the past quarter century but there's debate about how it all got started. President Truman was the first president to pardon a turkey. But that's not true in fact the Truman Presidential Library says Truman sometimes indicated to reporters that the turkeys he received were destined for the family dinner table. Truman was actually the first president to receive a turkey from the National Turkey Federation

2:53:54 So who was the first president to pardon a turkey? Lincoln, it appears, was the first on record. But it was a Christmas turkey that his son had taken a liking too. President John F Kennedy was the first to pardon of Thanksgiving Turkey in 1963 despite a sign hanging around the turkeys neck that read good eating Mr. President Kennedy sent the bird back to the farm Richard Nixon also gave the birds a reprieve, sending his turkeys to a nearby petting zoo. Ronald Reagan was the first to use the word pardon when he was talking turkey in 1987 The Turkey Pardoning became formalized in 1989 with President George HW Bush Let me assure you and this fine tom turkey that he will not end up

2:54:45 on anyone's dinner table, not this guy. This year the spared birds will be sent to Virginia Tech University where they already have a prominent gobbler mascot on campus The event has become a White House holiday tradition This is the eighth I've had the privilege to meet and set free in the Rose Garden In 2000 Jerry the turkey from Wisconsin sported a White House pass around his neck Four years later, the Bush administration also had some fun with the event. The names of that year's turkeys were chosen in a vote on the White House website. This is an election year and Biscuits had to earn his spot at the White House. Biscuits and his running mate Gravy prevailed over the ticket of patience and fortitude. I hereby

2:55:36 pardon you from the Thanksgiving table. For his final turkey pardon naming, President Obama took suggestions from the Iowa Turkey producers' children and their classmates—the winners Tater and Tott. Nice! Well we're up to speed on that. This is another load of crap turned into a great tradition for generations. That is bullshit! And if you're gonna say anything, it's Ronald Reagan who really set the thing off in 1987 how long ago was that? 8 9 10 11 20 years ago one generation I think we can classify it as... Fake news!

2:56:31 Wow, but if they think they got all the media goes there and they're all sitting there laughing at the funny jokes I mean why are you wasting your time on this? This is stupid. I have an idea for president It's not even cute by the way Oh the bird was a good pardon though I have an idea for President elect Trump because he seems to be doing everything differently which is good it's confusing a lot of people Well, I can think of two things. There's another bitch I had about a year ago on this show that is also galling which is the saluting. Well you do that in a moment how about this? How about next Thanksgiving

2:57:07 I'm okay with the whole thankfulness for our country and God, and the Indians and the corn. But i'm okay with that. At Christmas you get Santa Claus it's fine but families come together And we're thankful Why don't we do something really radical? You ready? Ready? This is really radical! Why doesn't President Trump next year pardon a person Wouldn't that be a crazy experiment Let's take someone who has done something so horrific We're gonna kill him but we are going to pardon him and see if we can turn him into a good citizen. Is that a crazy idea? That's nuts! Come on, I just came up with that i think that's decent well it's better than wasting your time pardoning a turkey spending half a day on this event yeah yeah half a day is spent on this event the media comes in they all sit around laughing at the jokes about

2:57:58 About cold turkey. Wow, that's a funny one now what if Donald Trump bought President Trump? What if we could convince him to not only do that but to build our reality show around it the one We've always wanted which is to show people getting killed on death row and then you can zoom in and yeah, we did the big the big Fall promotion for our show then we had been the president will pardoned one of our contestants Well, you'd have to have contestants then who's going to get killed. Jails are filled with contestants! Yeah that's true. He understands the model. He totally understands the reality TV show model absolutely

2:58:36 All right, uh... I just galled me. I'm sorry i get upset by these things but I just find them bullcrap and you know these fake news guys are the same ones bitching about fake news that are sitting in that audience this is fake news! Less than 10 minutes to go okay? I'm glad that we have the info right now because i didn't have it last night. Here's the clip that im talking about, something big happening once again in the European Union Parliament. The European Parliaments upcoming vote on whether or not to halt EU membership talks with Turkey has no value in Turkish eyes. You see my tie-in with turkey there? Like turkey, turkey. Beautiful! In Turkish eyes, the countrys president Recep Tayyip Erdogans says

2:59:21 Ankara's post coup purge. Did you hear that? She says, say is the way Trump always says it says, say, say is interesting because it is say when you say something but when you say says it's more like says but this woman and Trump also says what is that? It sounds like a, like a something that you'd say if you were just learning English. Yeah. That's why it's well okay. Trump there you go President Recep Tayyip Erdogan says Ankara's post coup purge pushed two of the Strasbourg bodies largest groups to call for discussions to be stalled citing concerns about human rights and democracy in Turkey. Erdogan once again accused Europe of siding with terrorist organizations and have double standards

3:00:07 He said if we stay silent after all of these events, if we don't say anything the West will continue to welcome with red carpets tyrants who salute the West and who have blood on their hands. And they'll label anyone who criticizes them a dictator. He said Ankara exemplified EU values more than many other countries in the bloc but had not seen real support from the west Founding EU members France and Germany have consistently supported continued engagement with Turkey, insisting that ending negotiations at this point would do more harm than good. But German Chancellor Angela Merkel added that doesn't justify curbing press freedom or arresting thousands of citizens and that's what we have to criticize clearly but at the same time we mustn't cut the channels of conversation

3:00:55 Merkel reiterated Germany's commitment to cooperating with Turkey but said the alarming things going on there would be clearly addressed. Okay, two things about this report... The vote is now in that happened today 471-37 to halt Turkey's EU accession talks This is a very important deal Now, you recall the Dutch had their referendum about this and everyone was quite worried that well they'll just be ignored even though all 28 member states have to ratify it. I guess there's a couple more dissenters now, quite a few and this is again stopping new world order rolling up stuff shows to me it shows great discontent and Turkey is pissed

3:01:39 I'll bet. Prime Minister of Turkey warns of tensions with the EU after vote urged ministers to freeze talks on its accession, ascension? I'm sorry let me see if there's now the parliament's vote this is always a funny thing so that whole body the one we always see Farage speaking in front of in this report from Guardian The Parliament's vote is non-binding but represents a dramatic step ahead of the crucial meeting of EU ministers next month So this doesn't mean it's not going to happen. It's non-binding because that, you know the European Parliament has no power! Why do they even have a European parliament? What is the point?! They need a place for Farage to speak Well he's not even in it anymore I know

3:02:23 That's really fantastic And then just to call out globalists and assholes This happened in the United States. Just takes me a moment to collect my emotions He is a father mourning the loss of a son at this service for sergeant John Perry killed in Afghanistan by a suicide bomber most importantly I want people to know about the heroic the suicide bomber. I was in a car and I was driving down the road, and I saw this thing that my son did. Stewart Perry says his son stumbled on the suicide bomber before the bomber could reach his target. A soldier's five K Veterans Day run he would have killed possibly 100 200 people who knows? Perry says his son's death comes at a time military service is facing disrespect. He says

3:03:17 Hear the reaction of the flight being delayed because of a gold star family and the first cat class cabin booing that Was really upsetting and it made us cry some more. How about that? It's bullcrap I was on one of these flights Where they did that. They had a dead guy on there and they were moving him around, and the family was on there. You wouldn't see so much respect that people applauded them. They all sat down when they got out it was nothing I would what were they booing? Were those on Emirates? I want to know what's the name of the airline! It doesn't make sense to me. What they were well...I've been on one of these flights with these guys flying around. Hold on if you listen to the story

3:04:02 They booed, the first class booed because the flight was delayed leaving because of this. I believe it John! I'll work on getting evidence Of course i have no proof its just what the father said but why would he lie about that? Well maybe they said the flights been delayed without explaining and then they booed Is that possible? Its possible...I also thought wow how can- But when he said first class im like okay I can see A-hole's doing that No, this is nonsense. There's no way that down a normal airline and any there's no way it would be it's just not possible This is the bogus story okay? Okay? It could be fake news I bet it is fake but we checked That's a local story. It's local news. It's bullcrap okay Angle been on one of these flights as nothing does nothing like that happens, okay

3:04:58 I do have one thing. Oh, my last... I just wanted to read you something feedback based upon your dirty ATM clip the nasty dirty ATM? Yeah This is from our producer Sir Roadwolf I've always been mystified as to why the use of copper or brass or bronze for door handles and buttons have died off in the modern era Copper-based alloys such as these are naturally antimicrobial and should be used for ATM keypads, public telephone keypads and elevator buttons just to name a few possible applications. There was a time when brass and bronze door handles were even specified in hospitals for this very purpose I didn't know this! I didn't know this specifically but i do know that those metals will kill bacteria That's... well now I know why door handles used to be made of brass I didn't know that

3:05:53 Anyway, ATM buttons are already metal or metal-plated plastic in most cases so why not make them from copper alloy? My guess cost. Yeah I guess so too but here we go. It also turned green. Yeah but when you think about what he's about to say here... You will really want brass This made me think of the story from the subway system where I work. I was showing some contractors around one of the stations and came out from a service room into the main public area. There, in the middle of the floor was a bloody tampon! We were all quite perplexed as to how a tampon would have possibly been placed there."

3:06:29 Upon returning to the shop, I loaded up the camera and played it back to watch a woman in mid-stride reach down into her jeans pull out the tampon dropping it on the floor There was a garbage can only 10 feet away. Then she stopped, reached into her purse got out of fresh tampon and slipped that into her pants! Then she continued on her merry way placing the hand she just used to do this on the escalator hand railing. Yuck! How disgusting is that? Yes And...is this a thing?! I never heard of it It could be Damn Pretty slick To coin a phrase

3:07:16 Yeah, well talking about that sort of thing So they had the presidential awards for freedom medals of just a brand of people that I think... Well, it was for Outstanding Human Resource? Well this is outstanding. It was whatever it was for. It's a famous award and they give it out to everybody that Obama wanted to give it out too And so Ellen DeGeneres got it for some...I don't know what her contribution... Yeah Bruce Springsteen got one Tom Hanks. It's a Hollywood moment Yeah, I was at Bill and Melinda Gates were there. And so they're giving this thing as it'd be last time he's gonna do this and of course Ellen made it all about herself with this interesting report and then she did something that we've never talked about on the show I didn't want to talk about on the show but now going to talk about it on the show But you might as well play the clip and then we'll talk about it on the show mom I may hold the highest office in the land by Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is still higher The president had to reach up

3:08:13 to present the basketball legend with his Medal of Freedom today. The nation's highest civilian honor went to 21 Americans including Oakland native Tom Hanks, Vince Scully and Bill and Melinda Gates. Really cool to see Tom Hanks there. Comedian Ellen tweeted this photo after she was denied entrance to the White House because she Forgot her ID? Oh my goodness. They finally let her in and she tearfully received her award She also organized the mannequin challenge before the ceremony with other recipients Did you see Robert De Niro of course Tom Hanks and Bruce Springsteen even Diana Ross was in that That's the most famous mannequin challenge we've seen Yeah, she had the most famous selfie now she's got the most famous mannequin challenge go Ellen Thanks for joining us here at five o'clock Lester Holton's next

3:08:56 Alright, alright John. Okay first of all she doesn't have her ID how does she get there without her I-D? She didn't fly in a commercial jet obviously they flew her in on a private jet now I'm thinking that she might have left her id in the hotel room That's possible. I'll give her the benefit of the doubt, but it was kind of... Then she took a picture and she could have gone back to the hotel room to get it now. She'd self-feed herself then she did this stupid... This is about, there's like the ice bucket challenge who's benefiting? Is that some... This mannequin thing is stupider than the ice bucket challenge where you take a picture of yourself by the way, you can be moving around and take a picture instead as your bunch of mannequins

3:09:38 That's what I would do, I'd jump in the air so your feet are off the ground and then take the pictures. This is a mannequin challenge you somehow levitated and you're stuck there, you're stuck it. What? I didn't want to talk about on this show because it's dumb and it's another one of these things that have kind of gone semi-viral people doing it. I expect various podcasters will probably do it but what's the point of it Well, you know it's something fun to do. The kids like that. It is fun! That's what it is. Yeah the kids like to do that but I don't have that much of a problem with it. Ah tell ya' I don't have...I do have a problem with it. Let's go back there. I think the best of these which has been around for the last couple these things come and go. I always thought the best one because I believed it was funny was planking. Planking yes yeah planking was good. Yeah planking. It's a version of planking

3:10:34 Well, I'll tell you this planking the ice bucket challenge and this is all elements of a depression. of an economic downturn. These are the same like... Yes! Whole city was a big one in the 30s. Whole City, yes. What else? We can set the trend what else was a big one in depression times? Well, the bigger ones were those dances those dance to your heart. Oh like they shoot horses don't they? Yeah, that's it. We could do that we could do the dance-a-thon like three day dance-a-thon people dying of sleep. Yeah, okay That's a good one

3:11:10 That was the movie, wasn't it? They shoot horses don't they. Yes that was about those event there were other gimmicks you know different kinds of magicians floating around doing crazy stuff but the pole sitting there I'd have to look into maybe come up with a few more but there's a bunch of them but this no different than me planking or ice bucket challenge which did benefit charity and as late as this stupid mannequin thing Yeah, well in other words. I'm not you won't see me doing that no it's but you know we're in our 50s It's so much fun Okay well with that I would like to say happy Thanksgiving to you John say hi to the whole family It's another one of those Thanksgiving shows where I'm just complaining Well everyone needs an uncle on Thanksgiving and we appreciate you playing the role

3:12:01 That would be me. Yes, and you know congratulate Buzzkill Jr.. And Jesse on their poodle yeah they get in a pool again the poodle It's great You might want to you know start the conversation at the table to tell them that they really should find out what it's gonna Be hey we did that last night as a matter of fact here any luck nope They want to be surprised. All right, everybody be grateful and thankful we're still alive in Gitmo Nation and our mental hygiene is high! Coming you from the crackpot condo here in the skyscraper downtown Austin Tejas capital of the drone star state FEMA region 6 if you're looking for it on a governmental map in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley where Plato say woman who does brothel bathroom laundry throws in towel

3:12:56 I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll be back on Thursday, Sunday with another episode right here on NO Agenda. Adios mofos! There is no story bigger this week than Facebook and its perpetual problem with fake news. One person's fake news is another person's news! We are not serious about facts, and what's true and what's not You faked with me Yes No Yes You faked I faked If we can't discriminate between serious arguments and propaganda then we have problems

3:13:42 That whole thing, the whole production it was all an act. Fake! Fake! Fake! Fake! I'm shocked! Jerry just remember... It's not a lie if you believe it Don't laugh Why are you laughing? Shut up! Shut Up! Thank You! Its apart of my brand This very boring show can seem appealing until you take a closer look. Much like the lunch buffet at a strip club, but is actually just a cheap tour. Oliver... I'm coming for you! I don't care if he has goblin guides to go into Washington. And I don't care if it gets goblin guts on him

3:14:27 But if he catch him kissing goblins or in bed with a goblin, that's the problem. Or what if he marries a goblin? What if he has babies with a goblin? I mean... That would be what Hillary did! On top 20 fake news stories was actually higher than you saw for real cases. Their information and sound bites and snippets during his trip to Germany New York Times The Washington Post We are not serious about The Washington Post Sound bites and snippets news to get more engaged. Eating, fake news sites can say the New York Times or The Washington Post. Sound information and sound bites in the top 20 fake news stories was a big one. Sound bites of snippets eating fake news site you'd say is a New York Times or The Washington Post. Sound bites and snippets eating fake news expect sound bytes and snippets. Fake News to Get More Engaged.

3:15:24 That was one of the really surprising things to me. I didn't expect fake news to get more engagement than real news about their information. The leading fake news site getting the most engagement had only been registered months before. Four fake stories got four fake stories. I'm by the mix of slip and bite, snip it, miss my fake news. I'm from Fort Peck, I'm by the measure of makes and smooths. Fake news. Amen, fist bump. Stop it, stop it. And I say stop it, stop it, stop it. And I'll say right to the camera, stop it, stop it. And I say stop it, and I say stop it, stop saying this. Right there in front of you. Stop it, right there in front of you.

3:16:23 Mac and cheese by Ayn Rand. I would say that I'm surprised this comes directly from a Wikipedia page, I don't know my head. Are you familiar with Wikipedia? The free online encyclopedia? Mr. Clapper generally, generally is it appropriate to take information off of the Congress plagiarized plagiarized

3:17:06 Wikipedia. I would say that i'm surprised this comes directly from a... Ask the clerk to please distribute exhibit one and exhibit two documents provided as justification for the department's decision. Is it inappropriate to take information off of wikipedia provided... I would say that i'm surprised that this comes directly from a wikipedia page? I don't know, off the top my head uh generally Generally Generally Generally I don't know I don't know Damn Oh my god. Fake news. Adios, mofo. The best podcast in the universe! Dvorak dot org slash N-A