Episode 872 · Thursday, 27 October 2016

Kinetic Kill

A ninth anniversary deep dive into the linguistic framing of the 2016 election, rising Obamacare premiums, and the escalating military tensions between NATO and Russia.

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Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton enter the final two weeks of the 2016 election as Newt Gingrich and Megyn Kelly engage in a viral televised clash over sexual predator labels. While Senator Elizabeth Warren rallies the sisterhood in Florida, Professor Helmut Norpoth of Stony Brook University breaks from mainstream pollsters to predict a Trump victory based on historical primary performance cycles. Filmmaker Michael Moore further complicates the narrative by describing the Republican nominee as a human Molotov cocktail for the working class in the Rust Belt.

Jonathan Gruber defended the Affordable Care Act on CNN amid projections of a 25 percent premium hike for 2017, while Angela Rye attributed the law's failures to Republican obstruction. In the Middle East, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper warned that a Syrian no-fly zone could lead to Russian forces shooting down American aircraft. Meanwhile, John Podesta faced scrutiny over State Department lobbying ties involving Heather Podesta and $19 billion in Qatari defense contracts. The tech world saw Apple reveal the new MacBook Pro Touch Bar as Anheuser-Busch completed the first commercial delivery via a self-driving truck in Colorado.

John C. Dvorak and Adam Curry celebrate the ninth anniversary of the broadcast by deconstructing the linguistic shift from campaign surrogates to operatives. The duo examines the United Nations naming Wonder Woman an honorary ambassador and the bizarre Afghan tradition of burning down the Calais Jungle camp. Sir Thomas Hithaller joins the No Agenda Roundtable as the show analyzes the rise of kinetic kill terminology in modern drone warfare.


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CHAPTER 01 / 46 Discussion

No Agenda Ninth Anniversary Celebration and Plato Anecdotes

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak celebrate the ninth anniversary of the No Agenda show on October 27, 2016. Dvorak introduces a new opening joke format using Plato and Aristotle to avoid accusations of cultural appropriation regarding his previous Confucius-style jokes. The hosts reflect on their long-term partnership and acknowledge the contributions of the show's producers over nearly a decade of broadcasting.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· ninth anniversary· plato· confucius· austin· silicon valley

00:00 Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak It's Thursday October 27th 2016 and this is your award winning GetMonation Media Assassination Episode 872 This is no agenda Celebrating nine years of guarding your reality and mental hygiene. And broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state here in Austin, Teos, FEMA Region 6 In The Morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where Plato say men who take boat to distant brothel have tough row to hoe. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! In The Morning! Aw you're mixing it up on me?

00:38 No, I decided to change it. Yeah, Plato! He went to Plato. Plato? I'm gonna abuse Plato, Aristotle... Some guy wrote me. You know those Confucius say jokes are not funny and they're racist Wait a minute they're racist okay do tell how is Confucian says races I didn't hear any racial jokes There's no racial jokes, but it's foolish material attributed to a Chinese person. Oh I get it because you're using like an Asian... You're appropriating Asian culture? I'm appropriate! I never thought of it that way but if I'm appropriating Asian culture Would you stop that?! You gotta stop appropriating Asian culture

01:29 So I decided, well let's just change it to Play-Doh. Actually started with Hegel. You should just throw in Ted Kaczynski say oh i'll do that one yeah well happy happy ninth anniversary Jean Claude! Happy 9th anniversary to you! Yeah there you go nine years... It's too long What did he say we quit at 10? Most couples get divorced after seven. I know the itch, you know Yes anyway happy ninth way out of 10 there's no question about that Happy 9th anniversary to all of our producers this is your anniversary as well Yeah It is definitely theirs yeah As I just look through everything we've been doing and how much the producers have done damn

CHAPTER 02 / 46 Discussion

KTVU Weather Forecast Inaccuracy and Orographic Lifting

John C. Dvorak criticizes a KTVU weather reporter for ignoring official government weather models to make a personal prediction of heavy rain that failed to materialize. The reporter described subtropical moisture as "jet fuel" for storms and utilized the term "orographic lifting" to explain the predicted precipitation. Despite the forecast for a wet morning commute in Northern California, conditions remained dry.

ktvu· weather model· orographic lifting· jet fuel· moisture· meteorology

02:20 It is a collective deal for sure. Yeah, there's a lot of work that has been done I see you're now using some of the extra art on your... Yeah! I decided why not use that when i send out the bat signal it's kind of nice and looks pretty at least We get enough You might as well use this stuff to came in second yeah I do have a complaint before we get started Oh complain? I was watching getting clips and I watched the news And then I heard The Weatherman came on And first of all, I'm gonna preface this report that he shows a...I wanted to do a column on this some years ago where all these...do an actual statistical analysis and all these weather guys on the TV who make all these predictions that are always wrong. They're right. They'll say well we're right 60% of the time because 60% of the time it's sunny you know? So it's like oh it's gonna be sunny yeah okay so there is no tornadoes today.

03:18 So, last night this guy comes on KTVU, the KTVU weather guy. He seems like a nice enough guy but he comes on and he shows the weather model that is presented by I guess official government model of the weather and it shows that is not gonna be raining throughout today but its not going to be raining this morning where I am or any place around me Maybe not at all, all day is possible. But he looks at this thing the same thing and says I think they've got this wrong and there's going to be any cause it something in any goes on with his prediction that it seven this morning is gonna start pouring and right now it's 915-920

04:01 It hasn't rained a drop. It did last night about four in the morning, it was like a five minute rain shower but that had nothing to do with his prediction. He says right now it's gonna be a wet commute and the commutes over its 930 almost play this report for me and let show you what we have to deal with as a general public. It's the fuel, yeah it's some jet fuel and that's what that subtropical moisture essentially is to storms. Okay, tomorrow afternoon... Wait a minute! I'm sorry? Was he talking about jet fuel hitting the tropi- What is that chemtrails was he saying? No, he says for all practical purposes this sub tropical moisture is JETFUEL. Ohhhh! Jacks it up! Jacks it up!! I'm sorry, I was already...

04:46 Sorry, back to your clip. all the way up towards Go Rock and south down towards Montero Mountain. The model's probably not picking up that aerographic stuff, so I think it's gonna be raining pretty significantly just steady throughout the morning commute and then you saw that all afternoon it keeps going in this is a kind of rain. Green's there but this white's gonna be throwing some green too."

05:33 Was he outguessing the model? Yes! What a dick. To show how great he is. By the way, he had me at orographic lifting I mean... Yeah, I like the orographic lifting. ...I need more of that in my life It's like a show title. Or- I wrote it down, orographic lifting. Hmmmm nice Well okay so So it's dry right now. It's not just massive mess that even predicted, it's dry! It's not raining I should do this more often because throughout the winter This is when they make all their mistakes these guys are no good No anyway, I'm alone again Christina left yesterday went back to Rotterdam

CHAPTER 03 / 46 Discussion

TSA Luggage Inspection Damage and Stolen Wine Incidents

A traveler's WWE Roman Reigns action figure packaging was reportedly damaged by TSA agents during an inspection, leading to a discussion about airport security misconduct. The hosts recount similar stories, including The Byrds' guitarist Roger McGuinn finding a hole punched in a collector's guitar and a woman at JFK Airport reporting two missing cases of expensive Gaja wine. These anecdotes serve to highlight perceived incompetence and theft within the Transportation Security Administration.

tsa· wwe· roman reigns· roger mcguinn· gaja wine· airport security

06:21 And she texted me this morning, you know she's a big WWE fan. So of course we had to watch him Monday night raw which is is I gotta say from an entertainment value standpoint it's not bad I would say a couple of things, throw my two cents in. I think it's very entertaining there are too many commercials and the problem that i have with is its tedious at some point you watch and go get to the fight! Get to the rest day! Yeah get to the fight alright? I agree but now women can be in the cage of hell So this is a big deal, you know? Because this kills people. These actors are great athletes I'm very impressed anyway that's not why i'm saying it. I'm bringing this up because she texts me that she's landed and she is mad! What's going on?! so of course whenever someone from Europe visits the cage of hell yes

07:21 They always want to go to Walmart because Walmart has, particularly my daughter. She wants to go to Goodwill she wants to go to Target she wants to go to Walmart and she loves shopping at Goodwill. Let me interrupt you again when I go to my local target the place is crawling with Frenchmen French families really yeah ours is always empty I never see anyone in Target there's not enough French So we're browsing through the aisles at Walmart and she's like, oh! I was like what? Look Roman Reigns. She found an action figure of Roman Reigns which is you know big WWE superstar And she's loving the retro thing of it and she's like, Oh I'm keeping them You know We actually come back and say, oh you should look at my Hillary Clinton Donald Trump pen in the packaging. You're completely fine Everything's good Yeah yeah nice good collector's item

08:15 So she, so she texts me. She is so angry TSA ripped open her Roman Reigns package and stuck something sharp in it I guess to see if there's any drugs in it or explosives and did not leave the traditional TSA we inspected your baggage ticket you believe that shit? Yeah! And its probably... I do believe it Probably guys who are WWE fans and hate Roman Reign That could be It's nuts I just thought that was crazy. I remember a story from Roger McGuinn, who still, I guess steamed up about this one time he was traveling... Roger McGuin of the birds? The Birds guitarist and he travels with guitars on his personal friend of the show Yes yes and so He says he goes to London and picks up all these bags because he's got this metal container for his guitar And it was I think it was an acoustic guitar. I'm not absolutely sure

09:21 Okay, but it was one of his collectors items You know that he plays and so he brings to the hotel opens it up and somebody's punched a hole in the guitar what? Yeah They didn't like eight miles high. No idea Why is this Martin guitar I hate my guitars I have no idea criminals criminals and deviance man they're just deviants I remember. You remember a lot. I went back to New York once and for some reason, it was Kennedy. And there's this woman bitching to the baggage claim people. This is New York City and she's bitchin' about two cases of wine that had gone missing during the baggage check thing. She couldn't find them but wines didn't come through

10:17 And she just starts describing there are two cases of Gaja, which is extremely expensive. These wines come from Italy and they probably rarely cost less than $100 a bottle but they go up to four or five. This could have been easily a 2,000 dollar... Two cases like two grand or something? Or five I'm thinking. Oh, let me guess. It mysteriously disappeared! It just mysteriously disappeared in New York and she's stunned she's shocked. Shocked I tell you. Shocked that people like good wine at the TSA. Bastards. All right yeah um yes before we start i need to say something um...I think it showed you the video after after uh the last episode so somehow wikipedia has decided

CHAPTER 04 / 46 Discussion

Wikipedia Trump Supporter Label and Russian Intrusion Claims

John C. Dvorak disputes his classification as a Donald Trump supporter on Wikipedia, arguing that the platform's administrative restrictions prevent him from correcting his own page. The discussion shifts to the UK economy's resilience following the Brexit vote, noting the IMF's admission that its post-referendum crash predictions were too pessimistic. Additionally, the hosts mock Representative Sheila Jackson Lee for attributing Wikipedia's information leaks to Russian intrusion.

wikipedia· donald trump· brexit· imf· sheila jackson lee· russia

11:11 in their list of Trump supporters that I'm a Trump supporter. Oh yes, this is very funny! Now first of all this shows you the value of Wikipedia because i'm not a trump supporter but also how stupid are people to think that I or we are Trump supporters? Why would I why would I... if Donald Trump becomes elected president he's going to ruin all the corruption will have no business left He can't help that. And he's also going to tank the stock market, as far as I can tell. He won't help us! He'll tank the stock market. You know... It was a protest of bankers are all gonna dump and they're gonna say screw you we wanted Hillary who made it pretty clear We gave her all this money for what? Hmmmm....I will say though that

12:06 Britain is coming to the realization finally and reporting on it that Brexit didn't quite blow everything up the way they expected. The big downturn that was predicted after its vote to leave the European Union. Economic growth in the UK slowed only slightly in the three months after the referendum, Britain's statistics office said the economy grew by half-a percent in July–September period. The services sector improved but manufacturing construction and agriculture all contracted Brexit supporters said this shows the pre-vote predictions of a slump were scaremongering, but economists warned the real challenge is yet to come as inflation shoots up and companies postpone investment. The Finance Minister Philip Hammond said this shows the resilience of Britain's economy but he also warned of tougher times ahead saying that government has to prepare to support the economy to make sure we get through this period of uncertainty as London readies for

13:09 difficult Brexit negotiations. There was little reaction on the London Stock Exchange and the pound gained slightly against the dollar The International Monetary Fund has admitted that its warning of a post-Brexit vote financial crash was too pessimistic It now believes that Britain will be the fastest growing of the G7 leading industrial nations What? This year with 1 point... How does that happen?! Wow! We'll just redo that one We'll just redo that Sorry, that's not what happened. By the way over there Wikipedia things lies lies I tell you so I can't you know of course I can't you know I can't even change the stupid ass picture on my own Wikipedia page. I can't have anyone else do it because only an admin can do that screw Wikipedia Screw Wikipedia just do it going out and you can no you can't It says you need to have to have admin privileges

14:06 Yeah, I've changed stuff all over the place and i never had this day or just well it says if you want to change. It says you need to be an admin of course i'm not an admin it doesn't matter. I thought the public was supposed to be able to change this no it's not possible that's yours is because they got a eye on you famous your famous cheater ah ha i'm a famous cheater famous cheater yeah famous cheater i am with I'm with Jackson Lee on hating Wikipedia. Let me just say that much of what went on was what i call campaign chatter you know that I am going to first of all denounce the utilization this intrusion by Wikipedia through the Russian intrusion That's right, Wikipedia is Russians!

14:57 Russians! Hey, if you can vote that kind of person in office we're doomed. And keep her in forever? We're doomed. She's so haughty as though she is like some part of the British upper crust from the late 1800s Yes and then it's Wikipedia and the Russians are Wikipedia Moron! Anyway, if you were watching the United States of Gitmo Nation news Don Lemon summed up what is uh... What the talking points are this week and he did it in a total of six seconds. 13 days to go and Donald Trump is showing signs of life in the polls. Woo! Signs of life at the polls now Of course I'm a little mad at myself because we should have

CHAPTER 05 / 46 Discussion

Media Advertising Revenue and Strategic Election Polling

The hosts analyze the financial incentives for media companies during election cycles, referencing former CBS CEO Les Moonves' comments on the "political advertising bonanza." They argue that polls are utilized as marketing tools to create a sense of a close race, thereby pressuring candidates like Hillary Clinton to spend their remaining campaign funds on television advertising. This "scam" is presented as a method for broadcasting operations to maximize quarterly earnings.

les moonves· cbs· political advertising· election polls· hillary clinton· donald trump

15:50 I mean, it's on the roster. We should have predicted this would happen because we all know this is about money." Yeah and then they found out that Clinton's getting... She's apparently collected... Wait wait let me just explain the money part for those who are new The thesis for people who haven't listened to the show at all Yes if you were ever look at advertising age before an election year they will tell you how many billions of dollars they expect to flow into the advertising in media business And it's often up by near the trillions. It's really crazy how much money goes through media, not in one year obviously. Too bad you can't find that old clip of Les Moonves bragging about his quarterlies because of the political events Oh I think i might have that! Gee...

16:38 In fact, he called it a political advertising bonanza. The advertising climate couldn't be better right now and I've never seen it this hot for a number of years Third quarter scatter was phenomenally good and fourth is even better than that So as the year ends and we move into 16 Guess what in 16? We have an extra AFC champion playoff game we have the Super Bowl and we have a year of political advertising That looks like it's shaping up to be pretty phenomenal. You know, we love having all 16 Republican candidates throwing crap at each other. It's great. The more they spend the better it is for us and go Donald keep getting out there and you know this is fun. Watching this let him spend money on us and we love having them in there We're looking forward to a very exciting political year in 60 days

17:31 Love it, love it, love it. Rubbing the hands together money money money. And so the thesis is that polls are a marketing tool yo They're not designed to really express any reality. They're designed to draw money into these opportunities, broadcasting and publishing operations there that's a scam. Yes and what you need to do is as the deadline gets close in of course has already been a problematic election cycle for media as Donald Trump has in the Republican cheap yeah I've just not spent any money really they have spent money

18:07 but certainly not anywhere near the level of the Clinton side. So that's a shortfall and what you do then is you need to, uh... You know shore it up! Oh we're getting closer, getting closer, getting closer! I've seen if you watch the news, oh Trump has taken the lead in Florida! Really? Yeah Yeah, it's really fantastic. And... It'll be pretty much because they've only got two weeks left and Clinton is still sitting on millions and millions. They're going to push this thing up so Clinton looks like she's gonna lose so she spends that money. Oh yeah! That's totally the plan now we also of course and I could have known this

CHAPTER 06 / 46 Discussion

Obamacare Open Enrollment and Jonathan Gruber CNN Interview

The 2016 Obamacare open enrollment period is identified as a major campaign issue due to rising premiums and insurers exiting the marketplace. Architect Jonathan Gruber appears on CNN to suggest that the system requires a larger individual mandate penalty to punish "free-riders" and bring more people into the system. Gruber defends the law as a bipartisan solution based on Republican principles, while the hosts characterize the rising costs as a "disruptive innovation" scam.

obamacare· jonathan gruber· cnn· individual mandate· health insurance· premiums

18:52 or could have even predicted this, or could have deconstructed it. I keep saying hey why are these idiots out there talking about Obamacare? And they're stupid! Why are they sending these guys out?! Of course i realize now that the open enrollment period starts November 1st runs through December 15th And right on, and so the Obama administration, the Clinton campaign knew that this would be an issue because everyone's seeing their premiums go up. And then the minute the exchange is open, everyone's going to be bitching about it. So they were up there front running this really, they had been front running it trying to get talking points out trying to get yeah just trying to run interference because I knew was going to fall right in the election cycle.

19:42 Huge mistake. Big problem." So now they're out really just going as fast as they can to try and discredit anything that's being said negatively about Obamacare, and I have a couple of clips because I think it's just fun to listen to them. The main offenders of this are, of course CNN and ABC So I'd like to start now, remember we had Zeke Emanuel being touted as the architect of Obamacare. Well it turns out there's two architects of Obamacare because now we have Jonathan Gruber... Now this is not- This is the guy who admitted that it was okay they lied to the American public

20:30 Alright, that guy. This guy? Yeah I remember him Here he is on CNN with CarolCNN Facebook.com slash carolcnn Okay so let's talk about how exactly you can fix Obamacare So and I just need you to be specific because i think people really want answers Hillary Clinton says she can fix Obamacare What would one fix That would drive premiums down look once again. There's no sense of which just has to be fixed laws working as as designed however And I like it the law is working as designed Mm-hmm, I bet it is just not in your favor slave

21:09 However, it could work better. And I think probably the most important thing experts would agree on is that we need a larger mandate penalty We have individuals who are essentially free-riding on the system. We need to punish people more! They're essentially waiting until they get sick and then getting health insurance The whole idea of this plan which was pioneered in Massachusetts, which is meant to say I guess it was under Republican auspices that was was Romney. I think who came up with that So there's your first little tinge of a republican issue Was it the individual mandate panel do you bring those people into the system and have them participate? The penalty right now is probably too low and that's something I think ideally we would fix. What about the insurers that have fled the system? How do you convince them to come back or new companies to sign on?

21:54 Once again, I think the press here has been misleading. Some insurers are leaving other insurers are thriving Oh! I think what you have is a system where we've shaken up the status quo John you always track insurance companies and stocks on DH Unplugged Are some hurting or leaving while others are thriving and joining in? No, even the ones leaving are thriving. They're all thriving! They're all thriving and leaving! Okay that's better then his lie is even better than we thought Exactly what we expect a new innovation disruptive innovation if you will to do ensures Disruptive Innovation John just so you know now you gonna hear the talking points Disruptive Innovation

22:33 I've heard of disruptive technologies but never heard of disruptive innovation. Yeah, it's innovation that is so good it fucks up your life! This isn't disruptive innovation just sit back and enjoy we're in transition. Oh, it's so hard. Let me think! They take money... they put in a claim I don't give you everything. I make it difficult. I think they understand the system. Other insurers are doing really well and what is going to happen as the natural process of market evolves these premiums are going to increase that's gonna allow profitable opportunities for new insurers to enter they are bringing premiums back down Okay Wait wait wait wait what? Here's the logic

23:20 Because the logic is premiums are going up right now. We're in a transition year, so we need more people to pay these higher prices so then the market and please note they call this a marketplace which it is not because you can't do it across state lines. It's not a free and open market but they say marketplace trick you So then everyone, more people buy in. Then the insurance companies go all we got a lot of people paying extra money let's lower the premiums Yeah, when has that ever happened? Let me think. Never! ...to enter they are and bring premiums back down so we're just seeing the ups and downs of a new market... The ups and downs of a new market system which largely works. What if Donald Trump becomes president he has a Republican Congress and he does repeal it what happens then well first of all he won't repeal it remember the whole argument Republicans have made against this law is that people didn't get to keep insurance they liked

24:16 Well, you have 20 million Americans or more who are now getting insurance that they like. You're not going to take that away from them and let's be clear there is no replace this only repeal okay? There is no Republican alternative to this law and the reason is because this is fundamentally a bipartisan legislation that was originally drafted on Republican principles to be honest And so there is no Republican alternative. So his repeal and replace is just repeal and leave people uninsured, that's not going to happen." That's right! Just be very worried Donald Trump is NOT going to fix it like Hillary Clinton AND the CBS morning people... Charlie Rose? What's the other girl's name...?

CHAPTER 07 / 46 Discussion

Health Insurance Premium Hikes and Preventative Care Skepticism

Media reports from CBS and other outlets confirm a projected 25% average increase in mid-level health plan premiums for 2017. Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz defends the Affordable Care Act by citing the 20 million people who gained coverage, a figure the hosts dispute as inflated. The segment also critiques the concept of "preventative care" as a marketing term for pharmaceutical interventions like vaccines and statins.

charlie rose· nora o'donnell· debbie wasserman schultz· subsidies· preventative care· health insurance

24:53 Nora. Yeah, so they're hearing about the official White House number the White House said on average people's claims will rise premiums will rise 22% which the media for some reason just rounded up to 25 it's odd that they're doing that but okay maybe they can't remember 22 and they're saying it's an average so yeah some go up more some go to let but to be sure we're in a transition year These premiums are rising slower than previous years. So they're confused by all of it. Millions of Americans will face big price hikes and fewer choices when Obamacare open enrollment begins, the government says the cost of mid-level health plans next year will increase by an average of 25%. That will hit consumers in 39 states major carriers are dropping out in some markets

25:46 About one in five consumers will be able to choose from only one provider. Government numbers show about two and a half million Americans not currently enrolled could be eligible for subsidies to offset cost increases." We need a bigger understanding of why this is happening, you know? Because the idea was not only to spread coverage around but that by spreading the coverage around not only would it help people get more preventative care but then it would ultimately bring the costs down and instead the premiums are skyrocketing And so the question is, what happened? Who's profiting on this? Is the way the law was set up failed. It's a really interesting story. Yeah very interesting. Are you people idiots?! That's really... You just don't see it as an obvious scam which is the drug companies and by the way this makes something clear The American public in general isn't looking for preventative care

26:42 I think i'm going to go into the doctor and get some preventative care. What does that even mean? I'll tell you what it means, it means you're going to the doctor says your fat! You need to lose some weight have some ripitor. There's that which is preventing by the way can you not see your penis here have some viagra yeah what you can't remember what i said have some b12 hey you need a vaccine you got kids daughters hpv I know how it works. Yeah, preventative care. Debbie Wasserman Schultz of course was asked about this a... It was with Brawl so i thought it was funny enough to play How worried are you about those numbers because it's pretty uh-uh pretty significant that the increase in cost is hard for him to even say it Americans is going to go up You know I think that voters when they go to the polls and make a decision about who they want to vote for president

27:39 are gonna vote for Hillary Clinton because they know that she has been focused on making sure that we can continue to add more people who have healthcare insurance. We have 20 million people who now have health insurance that didn't before." You know, this 20 million, 20 million, 20 million... That was always the plan but I've never really seen any numbers that show it more than 12 million Have you seen a total of 20 million anywhere in like a real report? Not ObamaFacts.com? No, I don't think its even close to being true It's probably not even twelves I don't think so either Because they must have thought if we can get 10, that's half. It should be kind of break even if we get 20 then the system is humming because that was the idea as long as we have it on the other side but no I agree. I don't think it's there at all and these subsidies...I looked into these subsidies like if you spend more than 5% of your total income on healthcare then medical care or healthcare insurance I should say

CHAPTER 08 / 46 Discussion

Cash Payment Strategies for Uninsured Hospital Visits

A discussion on the financial viability of remaining uninsured reveals that paying the IRS penalty is significantly cheaper than monthly premiums and high deductibles. One host explains a strategy of paying hospital bills in cash at "30 cents on the dollar," claiming that medical providers often accept lower payments to avoid negotiating with insurance companies. A personal anecdote regarding a $30,000 appendectomy bill illustrates the disparity between billed amounts and actual costs.

health insurance· irs penalty· hospital bills· cash discount· appendectomy

28:34 then you are going to be able to get some subsidies, but you have to be making under I think it's under $45,000 less maybe even. It's not gonna wash out that's for sure. I can't make the numbers work for me so let's continue. So when we put this report together because you're looking for health insurance cause you got the November deadline coming up? I'm not gonna get any. I'm paying the penalty What's the penalty? Very low. It increases per year, I think... Okay let's go over this because this is more interesting-I think you're done with the clips because there are things that- Well no- But I'm going to ask you some questions cause' you've become an expert in this. Uh, and that's what this whole little presentation is it's an expertise presentation. Okay well- I do have a- Here are some questions! I have a funny payoff just remember keep that in mind. Well pay okay good save it till the end you can give me the pay off after asking my question. Yes First of all uh

29:29 What if you have no health insurance, which you're going to be in that position? You said and you get something happens soon. You get end up in the hospital and they send you a bill what do you do okay so first of all they cannot deny me They write boy they can't deny anybody yeah, they cannot deny Then I will say to every doctor and the hospital Please, I will pay you cash. I'm going to pay you 30 cents on the dollar." They'll probably argue with me up to 40 because they have no...I have no insurance but I'm willing to pay you if you can bring it down to 30 cents on a dollar. Every indication that I've received because I have studied this is doctors and hospitals take it because they argue with these insurance companies down to 30 cents on the dollar consistently! They don't get paid what their bill is

30:19 Okay, now that let's stop there because my doctor told me that most of his time is now being spent arguing with the insurance companies over every single diagnosis and every single prescription. to the point where that's what they do as doctors now more than anything else. And he says, they always give in at some point for whatever the negotiations I don't know but it is so time consuming for every hour they spend on a patient they spent hours and hours with insurance companies. Yeah and it's big-time waste and I've heard this 30 cents on the dollar number is what I've heard

30:58 You haven't tested this yet though. No, I haven't been ill but if you think about it the plans i can get now...I can't really afford a gold plan and I looked at silver and you're looking at seven eight hundred dollars a month from me with a deductible of ten thousand dollars yes now the penalty this year for 2016 Maximum, it'll be $695 per adult penalty. Total? Total and there's a family penalty maximum 2085 and each child is... So the total penalty that you pay to the IRS which is taxed... $695. Yes, $695. As opposed to seven hundred dollars a month. Yes Well who wouldn't take that deal! Well and you have to add the ten thousand dollar deductible so now you're talking twenty six grand no I'm sorry now you're talking sixteen grand

31:55 It's a lot of money. Right, and how often do you actually have to... Even when my daughter Jay had an appendectomy I thought she was ripped off because they did although we had insurance the insurance paid for it so it wasn't a problem I think there was like a little bit of they had to pay on top of it. It was a $30 000 bill for some and they didn't even open her up I mean now that days from now man you should have taken her back for them to open her up this lame hey open my kid up They poke a little hole in the person and they go in with I guess, a little flashlight. Like a little miner who finds it and clips it and they pull it out of the hole And then they...I don't know what to do after that but then just seal it. Eat it! Yes there we go!

32:44 30 grand. It was like a, it was almost like an outpatient procedure and how much $3,000. And how much did you wind up paying of that? 30 grand I think it's about five or 600 bucks. Oh, that's pretty good. Right. So in my system for me, I would have wound up paying what 9,030 cents on the dollar $900 no There wouldn't be that little, no way. 9000 I think 9000 yeah we could probably get to it so let's say i knock it off at 10-12 for $9 000 and make money come on! No I'm just saying in negotiations let's say you know what? I got 12 grand... It's still a better deal than the 16 I'm paying you know? Yeah and you can actually do these deals

CHAPTER 09 / 46 Discussion

Congressional Staffer Angela Rye Blames Republicans for ACA Failures

Former Congressional staffer Angela Rye argues on CNN that the failures of the Affordable Care Act, including rising premiums, are the fault of Republicans who refused to "act in good will." Rye claims that Hillary Clinton's new proposal for tax credits for medical expenses is a novel solution, though the hosts point out that such credits already exist. The segment portrays Rye's arguments as partisan deflection for the law's inherent flaws.

angela rye· cnn· affordable care act· republicans· tax credits· hillary clinton

33:36 I know you can do these deals because if you get a big bill like that, and say I can't pay it but i can pay this. Right yeah. They'll take it anyway so ABC of course is all in a tizzy. Get ready for some sticker shock! If you're looking into the price of Obamacare plans the average premiums are expected to rise by 25% next year many consumers will also be limited to choosing plan from just one provider Yeah that's a free... That's a market everybody One provider there's your marketplace So the last clip I have just to show you that they are really struggling You know, the Clinton campaign has all of these surrogates and all the same ones on the news shows. And this Angela Rye who was a former staffer for the Congressional Black Caucus who now you know I was a staffer! I was there during when they signed Obamacare! I know how it works to be a staffer running papers around getting coffee okay

34:26 But just listen to how she is, whatever it is. It's the Republicans fault that Obamacare sucks. Angela this is not what the Democrats had hoped to be dealing with 13 days before the election. The broken promises of Obamacare President Obama said your premiums will go down now we know that next year premiums on average are going up across the country 22%. This is something that certainly Donald Trump has been bringing up and Hillary Clinton will have Yeah, I think it's not just Hillary Clinton who has to tackle this. It is also Congress The reason we are in the position that we're in right now frankly Allison Is because Republicans fell short of their promise To repeal which they said they wanted to do and replace But hold on a second President Obama promised That if it were passed premiums would go down So that has nothing to do with congress They passed it

35:16 and premiums are going up. I hear what you're saying, and i would say as someone who was a former congressional hill staffer uh Capitol Hill staffer actually know what happened in this process and the fact of the matter is Obamacare was never a perfect solution it was put in place that I think Obama President Obama, in good faith said this thinking that Republicans would act in good will on behalf of the American people to ensure this wouldn't be the case. Instead they tried to repeal Obamacare 60 times. But is that why premiums are going up? I think it has everything to do with it. The reality of it because if you don't work to ensure something is the best possible solution for the American people there are going to be holes

35:55 So they made it not the best. When you have insurance companies that are a part of the marketplace and they don't feel like there's any real place to go, you struggle I think thankfully with Hillary Clinton's proposals she now has a solution which would give tax credit to people who are paying more than 5% of their income on medical expenses but we don't need to repeal it That is...I don't understand what she's talking about That is already a tax credit Oh! She's full of crap She's a douchebag These people are stupid And it's gonna end Trump is right. He's out there, you know saying screw this This is no good You got lied to bigly

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International Healthcare Comparisons and Private Care Waiting Lists

The hosts compare healthcare experiences in the US, UK, Netherlands, and France, noting that single-payer systems often result in long waiting lists for procedures like MRIs. An anecdote about a $1,100 monthly quote to add a partner to a corporate health plan highlights domestic cost issues. Conversely, the French healthcare system is praised for its efficiency, though it is noted that its structure is "alien" to the American HMO model.

ronald mcdonald house· netherlands· united kingdom· nhs· france· mri

36:33 You got lied to bigly. And they also, the other lie was you can keep your doctor? Oh yeah! I just want another personal story so in my investigation Tina the Keeper works for Ronald McDonald House Charities and she's part of the medical system she has unbelievable health care She pays like 60 bucks a month, I know she pays nothing it's fabulous Unbelievable. So if you married her, would you get the benefits of that health care system? Well what was investigated if there was a domestic partnership... Do you know how much additional it would be per month to add me to her plan? 30 bucks. $1100 A month?! Yes! What!? Yes! That's worse than what you're gonna get now!

37:25 How does all, well they hate marriage. The Ronald McDonald people. No, don't talk like that! Don't Ixnay on a McRonald day no no that's not that is her that's the plan that's their health care that they you know it was just great for the employees then many had dependence to it or other partners becomes a problem It means just what it is That's just the scenario we're in Hate to say it, but single-payer is the only way to go even though that's not going to be the best way in the world with this country because we're These systems are so corrupting. Single payer... Oh that'll give them a carte blanche

38:04 Well, it's not supposed to but it's also like the utilities. The way single-payer works is that everything like for example with the Veterans Administration this was brought up in a number of clips that we've had they do their own deals for drugs Kaiser has a big operation they do their own deals for drugs and they get better prices instead of paying $100 a pill here's the other side of that. They get 20 dollars a pill But heres' the other side of that because of And for that type of system, and I've lived in two in the Netherlands and in the UK. You get waiting lists for this stuff because you have to ration and supply just supplies are limited while stocks last well we had a spread it out came up this came up in question time at the Parliament Wednesday night okay

38:50 And they were talking about the real problem is that anyone with necessary...and it started with somebody, some constituent of one of the MPs having their...somebody commit suicide because they had these issues and they wanted to get some mental health care from the system, from the health system there. And he says okay we'll put you in a six-month wait to get your first appointment. Well, when Christina... The guy committed suicide. Yeah when Christina dislocated her knee in the UK she needed an MRI and to this day she's still dealing with this bull crap on her knee because of the great national health care in UK I'm sorry it just didn't failed her but it does work much better than you think Let me just finish a story

39:36 Want an MRI. Okay, here's your ticket go get an MRI which will be free under the system fabulous six-month wait I can't have this kid hobbling around so I said you know what? I call him up and say about pay privately Okay 5,000 pound doesn't matter. I mean I didn't negotiate just I'm in the place was empty It's the same place where she would go to if she had an appointment there was no one there Oh, it's nice and calm today Yeah There's not a lot of business Well, what's the reason for the six-month wait? You tell me. I have not seen it work. Is it great that you pay five pounds for your medication regardless? Well, that's the point. These systems can work if they weren't...I don't know is that a moment of corruption or is it incompetence? The French system works very well most people from England in fact move to France if they have health issues so they can fall into line with the French healthcare system. Now I've talked to people about this and they're in the health care business as an investor some little company

40:35 And I started talking about this. They had all these crazy reasons for everything they had to say when I brought up France, well the French system is totally alien to anything we do here because they have a different way of manufacturing doctors and people aren't expected to make big money and you can't do HMOs or this or that so the French system wouldn't work here because It doesn't have the elements that we need. Right. And I guess those elements are you have to be able to scam the public if you can't scam the public it's no good! Well hello? Shocked?! I'm shocked! Shocked, I thought so. Anyway... I want you to wrap this up so i can go back and do a callback on something you said. I'm wrapping this up by saying

CHAPTER 11 / 46 Discussion

PBS NewsHour Report on White Nationalism in Indiana

A PBS NewsHour report on white nationalist Matthew Heimbach is analyzed for its use of "subtle propagandistic" language. The hosts highlight the reporter's use of the term "Southern Indiana" as a pejorative intended to associate the region with racism and "hicks." The segment suggests that the media is attempting to link Donald Trump's immigration rhetoric directly to the growth of alt-right groups.

pbs newshour· white nationalism· indiana· matthew heimbach· propaganda· southern indiana

41:25 This is going to be the main focus of these last two weeks, and I think it gives Trump an incredible edge if he plays it well. He won't. Well there's that So I noticed something...I was hoping to have a clip of it but I've noticed a bunch of this going on, this very subtle propagandistic use of wordage. And I do have one clip let's do this there was a big report huge report and i think it was designed to slam Trump It was on PBS NewsHour and it was a look at the white nationalists and these crazy people headed up by some young guy who is the new hater

42:10 And they all moved to a little town in Indiana, this group and then a bunch of other ones are moving. It looked like a great little town Paiute or some crazy name is very standard towns going on and going broke and everything like that I just want to play the end of the The end of this Presentation there's a white nationalism in Indiana did I want to play the end? And then point something out, and then point something out you said and then point yet one more thing out to show that people really have to have their no agenda ears Turned up a little bit so you can hear this stuff appeared frequently in the bios of users publishing the tweets white power website Stormfront sees a 30 to 40 percent increase in traffic when Trump makes news on immigration or Muslims according to an interview with the site's owner

42:59 Critics charge that Trump has been slow to reject the embrace of alt-right groups and racists, including David Duke's endorsement. They also say Trump has echoed the language used by groups like Heimbox. This election will determine whether we're a free nation or whether we have only the illusion of democracy but are in fact controlled by a small handful of global special interests rigging the system and our system is rigged. Anyone who challenges their control is deemed as sexist, racist, xenophobe and morally deformed." The Trump campaign did not respond to her request for comment for this story. Heimbach and his followers say Trump's rhetoric stops short of their ethnic ideology

43:45 Even if the candidate loses, they think this campaign has opened the door for what they hope will be a wider following. It's about these ideas of nationalism not globalism That's what we're building towards and Donald Trump is just introducing his ideas to a lot of new people But um... We were here before and we're gonna be here after. Bitsy bitsy spider went up BJ Tobia PBS NewsHour in Southern Indiana Okay Okay, now this is a long report I might add and they really went into it. I don't know if there was any conclusion that you could really draw from except they did do something at the end that just perked my ears up. They're in Indiana! There is no place called Southern Indiana. Oh good catch

44:29 This is to inform you that southern is a bunch of hicks, racist assholes. Yeah yeah Texas So let's do this long report and then use the word southern so it just gets into your psyche You know southern oh southern Southern all those Southerners Those Southerners are a bunch of pigs And they slipped that baby in there and I just heard it, you know. Oh my God! He's in Indiana he's not in southern Indiana now You said an interesting word which is another one I started catching I started hearing this Now this will be applied to Trump once in a while but generally speaking the words surrogate

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Linguistic Framing of Political Surrogates and Operatives

The hosts deconstruct the media's use of the words "surrogate" and "operative" to describe campaign representatives. They observe that Hillary Clinton's supporters are typically called "surrogates," a term implying a nurturing or motherly role, while Donald Trump's supporters are labeled "operatives," which carries a more sinister, military, or spy-like connotation. This linguistic framing is presented as a subconscious method of influencing public perception.

surrogate· operative· john podesta· roger stone· media bias· propaganda

45:12 applies to Hillary and you used it. Yes I did, and we saw as a surrogate of the Clintons to surrogate a surrogate when they talk about Trump it's an operative Donald Trump has operatives. Yes! Now if you look at the two words surrogate is a motherly term, oh it's a surrogate mom, no it's just a sweet nice thing... It's all-encompassing envelopping womb of goodness yes surrogate also surrogates sounds kind of bad always a surrogate. Come on man back off she's a surrogate you know? The trump people are operatives. Now this sounds a lot like it's a spy or something. Military, yeah military. Operative CIA some sort of spy are the Russians! Wait white nationalists? White nationalists and so you have this little usage and this is going on on the mainstream media constantly constantly and it's very difficult for people to hear

46:08 What do you mean difficult for people to hear? They don't hear it. Oh, I see what you're saying! In other words they don't know they are being subconsciously affected by it because if you hear it now people will hear it because you will so when you hear surrogate oh its a Clinton surrogate oh yeah the Trump operative this is a propagandistic term why are they using operative with him Now, once in a while you hear...you will hear Trump surrogate in a situation where it's the right word to use. You rarely hear Clinton operatives even though John Podesta is one. Right? I'll say. Yes he is! But Roger Stone they bring that guy up every once and awhile. He's always an operative.

46:55 Good catch. And that's exactly the kind of thinking you get on The No Agenda Show, we are not for nothing the best podcast in the universe and with that I'd like to thank you very much for your courage and say in a morning to John C. Willis D stands for celebrating 999 years. Well, thank you. And I want to say in the morning to you Adam Curry and a morning all ships of seaboots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there and everybody who has supported the program All producers Of course The chat room no agenda stream calm Thank you all for being here once again today and in the morning To all the artists who have helped us throughout these years You can see their work at no agenda art generator comm today we highlight cesium-137

CHAPTER 13 / 46 Discussion

Executive Producer Donations and China Economics Anecdote

The show acknowledges high-value donations from Executive Producers Jeremy Falk in Mexico and Patrick Seymour in Ohio. A third major donor, James Rogers, clarifies he is not the famous investor but an economics teacher in China who uses No Agenda analysis in his classroom. The hosts discuss a technical error in their donation button that mistakenly asked for "Dad's name" due to a recycled Father's Day template.

jeremy falk· patrick seymour· james rogers· yucatan· china· economics

47:40 who brought us the artwork for episode 871, New World Hackers. Which is the Obama logo or Obamacare sorry we're closed sign on it. It was nice beautiful piece of art always and we were timely with it once again. We put that up boom everyone's talking about Obamacare. Yeah actually that was a little timely I guess the right word because we were like ahead of the game in fact seems to me and Of course, I didn't have the spreadsheet open because you came in early with this thing. No, I came in right on time! Right on time! So it's open now so I just have to make one switch and then we're good. Okay want to thank a few people and let's start with... Hold on a second. We're gonna shrink this just a shade more. Shrink, shrink, shrink, shrink, shrink

48:39 Shrink here we go you good. I think so yeah, let's start with a couple of people came in within it was we have two of our 999 dot 99 donations which helped out quite a bit And one of them is Jeremy Falk in Muni, I think is Muna In the Yucatan Peninsula in Mexico yay He's right at the top nice Didn't say anything about getting an instant night or anything, but we'll work on that and we always do it later Well if it was 999 I mean we always throw in the extra penny. I mean are these

49:18 Are they not on the, let me just check. No we don't have them on the night list that's interesting no well they didn't call for it I mean they were the ones who called the shots okay so Jeremy you look he can be easy we're gonna put his name down as Sir Jeremy but anyway says happy anniversary sorry for the pesos uh but the exchange rate is absurd oh maybe this is 999.99 pesos it's possible although it doesn't paypal doesn't do it that way uh, ITM keep grabbing them by the puss. You've got karma. I think you played it once before and yeah, I played it at the show and to show Patrick Seymour in Clayton Ohio a nine nine nine dot nine nine another one why does this saying

50:17 Why does this say dad's name for call out? You're weird John. Happy anniversary you magnificent bastards What is this dad thing mean why does this say dads oh, oh That's funny what did I know it well oh geez all right I didn't, somebody else should have pointed this. I think what I did was when I created this button for a open-ended donation, I used the previously designed button and on page two of the button specs there is a thing for the callout and I think this was the old Father's Day open donation which I did put dad's name for call out on the question that you get when you make the donation

51:08 Which is a but empty box. That's funny, okay? I'll go yes That's why it says that it was it was my error no creation process. No The button creation process was flawed if this isn't one buggy his buggy. I tell you James Rogers and Wilmington Delaware $499 in 95 cents and I will have to look and see if he said anything In the email sorry G er s I think mm-hmm Oh, why is the keyboard on the floor? I don't know John why. Okay here we go Jim Rogers happy to support no agenda not The Jim Rogers another Jim Rogers To make sure my message to you got through my receipt is pasted below okay after years of listening your wonderful show I finally contributed five times 99.99 so least I can do for your

52:11 sanity check twice a week. It has been that long without donating, please de-douche. All right, deduce. You've been D douched. It says this is the best money I ever spent on this fight. This donation is ninety nine dot ninety nine times five. I teach A level economics in China. Oh. And some of your analysis as a secret spice sometimes to the class. Oh, and then he says don't mention. I'm sure the class is listening. You know, you usually put that kind of thing at the beginning because Adam and I are both kind of adept and we do cold reads which means we don't read and then practice and read...we just do it! We just read so if you put something like that in the end well it gets read in order Happy to support your show and your flippant attitude and mocking of the system has meant so much and helped me sleep

53:11 Thank you, God bless you Jim Rogers. He's corresponded before and he says he is not the famous Jim Rogers Let's give him some karma since he is here anyway You've got Karma That's it I think huh? Yeah that actually we have three executive producers all high order Well that great! I'm very happy about that Yeah, and so we'll go on with a bigger list of their well-wishers the regular producers on Somewhere along the line on this show today. I want to thank these folks a lot Yes And you should probably put in there executive producer or associated Oh No, God does all execs executive producer

53:53 9th anniversary show. Yeah, absolutely that always looks good in credits it always looks just looks good and put it on your LinkedIn putting your CV point of your profile like you're pro you like to produce the Emmys and let's face it It's very close Yeah, and remember content in the Emmys. Please remember us for Sunday show. Dvorak dot org slash N A. And of course everybody can be out there on this happy occasion propagating the formula! Our formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth. Order up! Shut Up! Slay He? Well a lot going on with the WikiLeaks

CHAPTER 14 / 46 Discussion

Newt Gingrich and Megyn Kelly Sexual Predator Debate

Newt Gingrich and Megyn Kelly engage in a heated televised debate regarding the media's focus on Donald Trump's alleged sexual misconduct versus Hillary Clinton's policy speeches. Gingrich challenges Kelly to use the term "sexual predator" to describe Bill Clinton, leading to a viral moment where Kelly tells Gingrich to work on his "anger issues." Adam Curry highlights a specific hand gesture made by Kelly at the end of the segment, interpreting it as a "wanking" motion.

newt gingrich· megyn kelly· fox news· bill clinton· sexual predator· wanking gesture

54:51 Which of course makes you- I have an intermezzo. It's something that we can use as light, it's kind of funny...it got some attention on all the shows but nobody played the whole thing. I'm not going to play the whole thing either but i'm gonna play the end of the whole thing which is the funniest part! Which is where Newt Gingrich and Megyn Kelly go at each other and just start sniping this is a very-I think it's two minute clip It is a, Megyn Kelly we've concluded in the leaner report is a Hillary supporter. And it starts to come out- And I think that she is that mainly because of the women issue? I think she's a Democrat. Okay you know that would do it too. It wouldn't surprise me at all. Yeah and we were pretty sure that O'Reilly's a Democrat although he's kind of a conservative Democrat but

55:49 She bleeds through every once in a while, so Gingras I guess got sick of it and so he decided to give her grief. What I said is, if Trump is a sexual predator then it's a big story. And what we saw on that tape was Trump himself saying that he likes to grab women by the genitals and kiss them against their will That's what we saw Then we saw 10 women come forward after he denied actually doing it at a debate To say that was untrue He did it to me We saw reporters People who had worked with him People from Apprentice and so on and so forth He denies it all Which is his right? We don't know what the truth is

56:29 My point to you is as a media story, we don't get to say the 10 women are lying. We have to cover that story sir. Sure okay so it's worth 23 minutes of the three networks to cover that story and Hillary Clinton in a secret speech in Brazil to a bank that pays her $225,000 saying is an open border where 600 million people could come to America. That's not worth covering. You want to go back through the tapes of your show recently? you are fascinated with sex and you don't care about public policy that's what I get out of watching you tonight. You know what Mr. Speaker, i'm not fascinated by sex but I am fascinated by the protection of women

57:11 and understanding what we're getting in the Oval Office. And I think the American voters would like to know... And therefore, we are going to send Bill Clinton back to East Wing because after all you were worried about sexual predators? Yeah listen it's not about me it's about the women and men of America and the poll numbers show us that the women of America in particular are very concerned about these allegations and in large part believe that they are a real issue. And don't dismiss the women so necessarily. Do you want to comment on whether the Clinton ticket has a relationship to a sexual predator? We on the Kelly file have covered that story as well, sir. I will tell you use the words I want to hear your words Bill Clinton sexual predator. I dare you say Bill Clinton's sexual predator This is so juicy like that guy and CNN It's totally lame that he did that okay so predator

58:06 Mr. Speaker, we've covered... Excuse me sir. We on the Kelly file have covered the Clinton matter as well. I think we should do this as well We on the no agenda show have done this as well and we are a no agenda show except your gracious donations We've hosted Kathleen Willie Christ. We've covered the examples of him being accused as well But he's not on the ticket and the polls also showed that the American public is less interested in The deeds of Hillary Clinton's husband than they are in the deeds of the man who asks us to make him president Donald Trump, but we're gonna have to leave it at that and and you can take your anger issues and spend some time working on them Mr. Speaker.

58:51 angle to this, which I didn't even clip it because... I'm glad you did. If you look at the last few words here that she says- You have to watch the video. Okay her hand.. She does two hand gestures. You have to watch this One is you can take your anger issues and with a palm face towards the camera she swipes And then she says and you can work on them and I swear to you John she makes a jerking motion She makes it like a masturbation jerking motion. Like a jerk off motion? Yes! You have to see it. Okay, I have to go back and look at that. And therefore that is the clip of the day just because of that one. Well you have to at least play the rest of it because he does a comeback... He gets the last word played right from when she's does the jerking motion

59:41 President Donald Trump. We're gonna have to leave it at that and you can take your anger issues and spend some time working on them Mr Speaker thanks for being here. And you too, and you too. You two. You two. Please, you two. You two! And they fade him out That's well, okay I think you got me if I did she cuz I should have seen that the chat room had seen it because the minute I said it they all started to say oh he made a wanking gesture and she really did And by the way miss him as a jerk-off and by the way Women rarely get the gesture right? They always open palm of facing up No You grab that shaft and you ja

1:00:25 Just a little should be it should be a fist yeah Like you're punching somebody on then only you move it up like you're stabbing yourself in your abdomen But you always have to end with an outward motion You don't have to I'll have to cut a YouTube video show women. Yeah, why'd you do it? Tutorial well we have to we have yeah, I like this either the notes you get on that one Oh the expert well listen she does this because there she is part of the war on men Yes, that for sure and that is extremely irritating and oops oh something bad happened. I know what just happened

CHAPTER 15 / 46 Discussion

Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren Sisterhood Campaign

Hillary Clinton and Senator Elizabeth Warren campaign together in Florida, leaning into the "nasty woman" comment made by Donald Trump during a debate. Warren calls on "the sisterhood" to vote against Trump, a move the hosts characterize as overtly sexist. The segment examines the campaign's shift toward identity politics and gender-based appeals in the final two weeks of the 2016 election.

hillary clinton· elizabeth warren· nasty woman· sisterhood· florida· sexism

1:01:05 Not gonna be bad. No, it's okay it's not bad um I think you are the one this may have been a private conversation? I know we've brought it up on the show before uh but every Thursday night the women of the world have meeting and they all get together and they talk about how they're going to bring men down or should just say man this is no secret They're all in on the conference call And...I think tonight now just look for where all the brooms are parked I'm trying to be as misogynistic as possible. Because Hillary is going to organize. Clinton is now calling on other women to help finish off her opponent. She valid yes. Notice the language, finish him off!

1:01:51 You need to stab him. Clinton is now calling on other women to help finish off her opponent she rallied yesterday with Senator Elizabeth Warren the senator picked up Trump's nasty woman comment from last week's debate and used it against the Republican nominee Nancy Cordes is in White Plains New York where Clinton will soon take off for Florida, Nancy good morning Good morning. You know, when this race first began Clinton was reluctant to draw too much attention to her gender to imply that people should vote for her because she is a woman but with just two weeks to go she is flipping this script and her top women supporters are now calling on the sisterhood to see her through Calling on the Sisterhood Wow! That's not okay

1:02:35 It's sexist. Very sexist! Going on the sisterhood and I have a minute of that Elizabeth Warren speech. All the news for you Donald Trump, women have had it with guys like you Good good technique there. I think she's also had it with RoboCallsomeRachel yet I'm still getting them What has she done? Nothing And nasty women have really had it with guys like you. Yeah, at this Donald, nasty women are tough, nasty women are smart and nasty women vote! And on November 8th

1:03:40 We nasty women are gonna march our nasty feet to cast our nasty votes to get you out of our lives forever. Nasty! Nasty girl! Nah, I like it. It was good. It's funny. I love it. I need a nasty woman mug. I need some of this memorabilia. It's going to be great. Have a picture- make sure there is a picture of Warren on the nasty woman mug Hey, I finally figured out what Evan McMullin is doing. Not that it was a big secret but it's nice that he admitted himself the guy from Utah. Yeah CIA Goldman Sachs alum and he is running for president in one state now he's gonna get on he thinks he's going to get on the ballot in 43 he's running in more than one state and whenever this is this is the power of the internet The Internet Of course being the single device that is ruining everything

CHAPTER 16 / 46 Discussion

Evan McMullin Strategy to Block Electoral College

Independent candidate Evan McMullin admits on a podcast that his strategy is not to win the presidency outright but to win enough electoral votes in states like Utah to block both major candidates. McMullin, a former CIA officer and Goldman Sachs employee, states his primary goal is to prevent Donald Trump from taking power. The hosts dismiss McMullin as an "asshole" working for the establishment.

evan mcmullin· utah· electoral college· cia· goldman sachs· third party

1:04:38 Yeah, well we yeah. No, but it eventually could be good and we'll get to that later seems unlikely so you know he goes on a podcast And a YouTube podcast and he just shoots his mouth off like an idiot. Right now we're either on the ballot or registered as a write-in in 34 states by the time we get to November 8th it'll be 40 to 45, and that's plenty for our strategy which is not a conventional strategy. We're not trying to win 270 votes of course that would be great but you know it's just not going to happen this is a three month presidential campaign so So, what we're trying to do is earn enough electoral votes to block Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump if the race between both of them is so close that we are able to do that by winning one or two states. That's the idea but if not then we will be happy to have prevented someone who I believe is a true authoritarian from taking power in the United States and that's Donald Trump

1:05:38 There you go. Thank you for admitting it, move on asshole. About time! Yeah he's like no one knew the story now just says it The system that we have in place doesn't really allow for a true authoritarian to really have much of an impact is not this It's not like Mussolini and Italy Well hello but he's Hitler No he's Hitler He's Hitler Well, now it's getting very... there are a lot of things that are getting very interesting. People are coming out saying Trump is going to win maybe not so directly. There is apparently a professor in I think he's in New York but I'm probably wrong

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Professor Helmut Norpoth Predicts Trump Victory

Stony Brook University Professor Helmut Norpoth discusses his "Primary Model," which predicts a Donald Trump victory based on primary performance and historical cycles. Norpoth notes that the candidate who performs better in their party's primaries almost always wins the general election. He also mentions having placed a legal bet on his prediction through the Iowa Electronic Markets, standing apart from mainstream pollsters.

helmut norpoth· stony brook university· primary model· iowa electronic markets· election prediction

1:06:24 And he has accurately predicted presidential results based upon data, very simplistic data actually. It has nothing to do with polling although I'd like to play his analysis of why Donald Trump is going to win the election according to him This man is sticking by his prediction of a Trump victory Here to explain is Stony Brook University professor Helmut Norpoth Professor it's great to see you Good morning thank you very much for having me So you are almost alone Yes Among academics predicting a Trump win not because you're coming out for trumpet because you have a model that you believe Leads the conclusion he's gonna win tell us about this model. How have you arrived to this conclusion? Well, there are two things Okay The model is called the primary model so I take into account primary elections real elections how the candidates are performing and I can track primaries for about 100 years since 1912 So it's quite a quite a set of elections Yes And it usually turns out that the candidate who does better in

1:07:19 in his party's primaries or her party's primaries beats the other guy who does less well. And so, in this election... the primers that I'm relying on, it's only New Hampshire and South Carolina. Donald Trump came out on top better than Hillary Clinton in the Democratic race. That seems like a fair measure and what is the other one? What I call the swing of the pendulum, the tendency after let us say two terms of White House party being in office that there was change. And I can track that actually for longer period time for almost 200 years And that also gives a prediction that Republicans are favorite this year. So, a lot of us in the TV business make predictions and we say it and we believe it but do you really believe it? Do we believe enough to bet on it? Do you believe your prediction enough to put your money in a legal way in a betting market behind your predictions? Yes I have! I've gone all-in at the Iowa market which is sort of the oldest prediction market. Hey... You can bet on that in America?! Of course ya can!!

1:08:21 You gotta be in Vegas or someplace where there's legal betting. No, he's talking about the Iowa... There may be some off-site betting place. He's talking about the Iowa prediction market? I hadn't heard of this. That was just a side note but thought it was interesting Yes i have. I've gone all in on the Iowa market which is sort of the oldest prediction market where its legal to do that and uh... I bought shares for the Republican candidate way long time ago and im sticking with it How much chaos will there be among other professional predictors if Trump wins? You'll be almost the only person who called that. Well, I think the only ones are really sort of a big deal at stake are the pollsters because they have... for them it's big business. For academics it is different. There actually quite a few colleagues of mine who also have a prediction that Trump is going to make it. I'm not the only one amongst academics doing that but I won't mention them because some of them are little leery about it

1:09:18 You're gonna be a hero. Primarymodel dot com. Primarymodel dot com, you're right I hope he'll come back. Huh, well you might as well... He says only the pollsters are going to be in trouble but play this one this was the uh this clip this is um Path To Victory For Trump short clip okay so Peter back to this question about where the race is overall Is there a path to victory for Donald Trump at this point? No no No, no. Just no? No, no. Well you probably saw it I think we would do a disservice not to play it in its entirety three minutes and some change Michael Moore who I'm no big fan of and I believe this is for or it's either from his latest documentary. It's really from him

CHAPTER 18 / 46 Discussion

Michael Moore Explains the Trump Phenomenon

Filmmaker Michael Moore describes Donald Trump as a "human Molotov cocktail" for the forgotten working class in the "Brexit states" of Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. Moore argues that Trump's rhetoric regarding tariffs and factory closures resonates with people who have lost their jobs and homes. He predicts that the election will be the "biggest fuck-you" in human history as the dispossessed vote against the elites.

michael moore· detroit· rust belt· tariffs· brexit states· middle class

1:10:09 where he explains exactly why Trump is going to win, according to him. Have you seen this video from him? Actually no Oh! You'll enjoy it I cut out most of the pauses but not all of them for you know...I don't want to mess up the drama of his read here Donald Trump came to Detroit Economic Club He's on a stage and looks like a set like a theater set with a desk kind of messy desk and there are lot people in audience and stood there in front of the Ford Motor executives, and said if you close these factories as you're planning to do in Detroit. And build them in Mexico I'm going put a 35% tariff on those cars when you send it back and nobody's gonna buy them It was amazing thing to see no politician Republican or Democrat had ever said anything like that

1:11:06 to these executives, and it was music to the ears of people in Michigan and Ohio and Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. The Brexit states. You live here in Ohio, you know what I'm talking about. Whether Trump means it or not is kind of irrelevant because he's saying the things to people who are hurting. And that's why every beaten down nameless forgotten working stiff who used to be part of what was called the middle class loves Trump He is the human Molotov cocktail that they've been waiting for. The human hand grenade that they can legally throw into the system that stole their lives from them and on November 8th, Election Day although they lost their jobs although they've been foreclosed on by the bank next came the divorce and now the wife and kids are gone the car's been repoed They haven't had a real vacation in years

1:12:08 They're stuck with the shitty Obamacare bronze plan where you can't even get a fucking Percocet. They've essentially lost everything they had except one thing, the one thing that doesn't cost them a cent and is guaranteed to them by the American Constitution—the right to vote! They might be penniless, they might be homeless, they might be fucked over and fucked up it doesn't matter because it's equalized on that day. A millionaire has the same number of votes as the person without a job, one and there is more of the former middle class than there are in the millionaire class So on November 8th The dispossessed will walk into the voting booth be handed a ballot close the curtain and take that lever or felt pen or touch screen and put a big fucking X

1:13:09 in the box by the name of the man who has threatened to upend and overturned the very system that has ruined their lives, Donald J. Trump They see that the elites who ruin their lives hate Trump Corporate America hates Trump Wall Street hates Trump The career politicians hate Trump The media hates Trump after they loved him and created him And now hate him Thank you media The enemy of my enemy is who I'm voting for on November 8th. Yes, on November 8th you Joe Blow Steve Blow Bob Blow Billy Blow Billy Bob Blow all the blows get to go and blow up the whole goddamn system because it's your right! Trumps election is going to be the biggest fuck-you ever recorded in human history and it will feel good

1:14:14 Please clap. Thanks Obama! There you go, he didn't say that at the end I put that in there You think? Yeah. Thanks Obama Hey but damn what's his point Well, I don't know. You know the other thing is it's interesting to listen to Democracy Now! Democracy now play a bunch of Trump stuff that is a Trump was gonna end this and they won't let this go on Trump is gonna do this all these bad you know these things that Trump's gonna fix which is all the stuff The progressives want fixed all the stuff that Bernie would be going for it. Then they go and within two stories, they're slamming him again as though they're like robots that have been rebooted to go after Trump for one reason or another. And this is a good example. This is right after a bunch of praise of Trump. This is the another woman prawn star comes forward in this story I've clipped it because this is another woman that 11th 12th. I don't know what she has that this story has has its questionable to me

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Jessica Drake and Adult Film Star Allegations

Adult film star Jessica Drake becomes the 11th woman to accuse Donald Trump of unwanted sexual advances, claiming he offered her $10,000 to join him in his suite. The hosts express skepticism regarding the timing and nature of the allegations, suggesting that individuals in the adult film industry might be susceptible to being paid for such stories. They recount their own experiences attending adult video conferences in Las Vegas to provide context on the industry.

jessica drake· donald trump· adult film star· sexual misconduct· florida· avn

1:15:17 In election news, Donald Trump arrived in Florida Sunday for a three-day trip. Trump likely needs to win Florida's 29 electoral college votes in order to have any hope of winning the White House at a rally in Naples. Trump blasted polls showing he is doing poorly among women voters. I really think those polls are very inaccurate when it comes to women. I think we're doing better with women than with men frankly so we're setting records with me But I want to set records with women, to me. And I hate to tell the men this but if i could swap, I'd swap you out so fast.

1:15:56 Trump's comments came after another woman came forward Saturday accusing Trump of inappropriate sexual behavior. Adult film star Jessica Drake says Trump grabbed her in a hug and kissed her without permission, and later offered her $10,000 in use of his private jet if she would join Trump for dinner in his suite. Drake is the 11th woman to accuse Trump of unwanted sexual advances since an Access Hollywood tape surfaced showing Trump boasting of sexually assaulting women. I'm surprised they didn't pick up the Finnish story. Where is this, the Finnish story? I don't know... Is it the Finnish story? Yeah there's a- There's a Finnish uh... I don't know if she was a porn star but no yeah some Finnish girl is now saying he was aggressive towards her huh yeah well so you said the story was fishy yeah porn stars

1:16:52 Yeah, you had me at pornstar or do anything for money so they would do this. You had me a porn star just face reality And so they were she could have been paid off to do this I don't know who she is and then like the famous porn star I don't know what Drake is and Then it just seems unlikely, you know, I've been in To those that I don't, I didn't go to a lot but we went enough times to film some stuff and do some things at the porn convention. Yeah because it always fell the same time as NAD. It used to be on the same time as Comdex. Comdex yeah. He moved him apart further than then they first started by moving it today after Comdex and he's had to spend extra day there you wouldn't then they did change- The adult video awards I believe

1:17:36 It was the adult video conference that was awards attributed with it, but it wasn't a video. Yeah, it's conference. You're right. It was a conference at AVN I think is different because that's run by one guy when they were whatever the case was everybody was there so I got to meet a bunch of these girls and uh... Hey girls! I'm John C. Dvorak But they were most of them are very nice people But they're not so uptight as this girl sounded here that they would even give a shit, to use the word about him coming up to them and slapping them in the butt or doing whatever he did. It seems to me unless they're doing lesbian porn or something I mean those girls are little seem a little bit off kilter but the rest of it just doesn't sound right. Yeah it's seems like you're clutching for straws

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Sally Kohn and Voter Fraud Debate on CNN

A contentious debate on CNN features Sally Kohn and a Trump supporter discussing allegations of rampant voter fraud and the findings of Project Veritas. Kohn dismisses the claims as a threat to the democratic process, while the Trump supporter cites Pew studies regarding inaccurate voter rolls. The segment culminates in Kohn shouting "Because it's not happening!" in response to claims of fraudulent rolls, which the hosts highlight as a moment of cognitive dissonance.

sally kohn· carol costello· cnn· voter fraud· project veritas· pew study

1:18:36 Would you like to be able to use my jet and here's 10 grand? No. Just dozens, just some... I mean, I'd be like yeah what do you want me to do Donald? Yeah i'll take your ten grand um a lot of women a lot of women on in these conversations A lot of women everywhere really and uh I loved watching this little exchange about voter fraud And this was again with Carol CNN the morning girl and with Sally Cohn. I like her, we all know who Sally Cohn is if you don't you need to

1:19:17 Look her up. K-O-H-N, a huge Hillary bot and this woman I think this is the one she's she's a wacky lady. I don't remember her name but some did i guess they let her on because she's completely wacky the way she talks She's clearly you know Trump supporter She has no other title Trump supporter They should say Trump operative But they didn't quite go that far And she's talking about all of the potential voter fraud About the Pew studies About the Project Veritas and she's just a steamroller And Carol and Sally Cohn, I mean Sally Cohn has a freak out on this. It's just so beautiful to listen to. This nation has been victimized by rampant election fraud. There is not much evidence of it this year. No don't say it's not true! We have cited the evidence so many times on CNN. You're responsible and dangerous and reckless there are facts

1:20:09 And there are no facts and there are truths. A duplicate or an illegal voter. We have the Secretary of State who manages the elections in the state of Ohio, a Republican, who's going to vote for Mr Trump by the way strongly saying that there is no evidence of widespread election fraud in the state of Ohio or the nation so let's just dispense with that. Wait a second! The New York City Election Commissioner Al Shokin said the other day there was rampant fraud in New York And then Mayor de Blasio said, shut up kid. The incumbents always protect the system no matter how corrupt it is. Excuse me, compare... The cooperative congressional research report cited by the Washington Post points out that somewhere between 2 and 5% of illegal voters vote. Those who register vote.

1:21:04 to cut this interview short. You don't want people to hear the evidence? It's not... facts! I have presented the evidence to my viewers and my viewers trust me to talk about truth. Oh yeah, sure they do. We've cited studies, I've talked to secretaries of state who are Republicans, I've talked to many Republican officials who say there is not wide- Wait for Sally! ...part of the system Okay you know what i'm sorry but listen this isn't okay anymore. I'm with the nasty woman in the pantsuit This is horrible This isn't okay. This is horrible, horrible! I'm with the nasty woman in the pantsuit this is horrible. Who's the nasty woman in the pant suit? That's Hillary

1:21:51 Oh, geez. This is... Wait wait wait! It's not done yet. I thought you were through? Oh no. I'm with the nasty woman in the pantsuit this is horrible You are threatening the integrity of our democratic process. No, why would I be honest?! Excuse me, you are. You're threatening by the way what makes this country great we are NOT a country that transitions power through violence and threats Look, I am a huge fan of American history and I understand the value a peaceful transition of power from one party to the next. But I don't understand why the Democratic Party repeatedly insists on defending fraudulent voter rolls. Because it's not happening! Ha, there it is! She cracked- You gotta iso that. I should you're right. Let's do it, let me show you. Okay hold on a second... That was such a beauty. I'm gonna play it again. The Democratic Party repeatedly insists on defending fraudulent voter rolls.

1:22:49 You're right. I should have already done that as a nice. So hold on a second, let's do it now. Because it's not happening because it's not happening. Here we go. Let me just save this whole clip was not as good as it should have been because of differentiation between the voices was had some issues I don't like that, it's right. Like in and women and women because i couldn't tell who was like that's why I was confused about the nasty woman in the pants okay well that's just because of the women just too many women? Too many women! Too many women now okay then they understand oh hold on iPhone schmife phone That's right everybody a little bit of tech news just in we have our producers sitting in the ample Apple campus watching the reveal of the new

CHAPTER 21 / 46 Discussion

Apple MacBook Touch Bar Reveal and Finger Snapping

During the reveal of the new Apple MacBook Pro with a "Touch Bar," employees at the Apple campus reportedly snapped their fingers instead of clapping. The hosts compare this behavior to 1950s beatniks at a poetry slam. This brief tech update is followed by a mention of a Reuters poll showing that half of Republican voters would reject the election results if Hillary Clinton wins.

apple· macbook pro· touch bar· beatniks· poetry slam· tech news

1:23:49 Apple MacBook. Here it is, direct from the Apple campus where they were all watching! Here we go... It's super thin and space gray! And has a giant trackpad!! And here's the kicker When it was announced that they have the new fangled touch bar The apple employees did not clap They snapped their fingers Can you believe that? What? Yes. 1953 beatniks that's exactly what I mean, man That's exactly that's exactly what I would my source told me Man you got some reefer yeah, oh Yeah, I'll read the message to you OMG the people have them around just snapped instead of clapping when they release the touch bar It's like they're at a poetry slam

1:24:49 And that ladies and gentlemen is your tech news. Back to the rigged election. There is one Democracy Now! clip on this, it's the contentious results I thought this was kind of interesting...I didn't know this. Meanwhile a new Reuters poll shows that half of Republican voters would reject the results of the presidential election if Hillary Clinton wins. The poll came after the final presidential debate where Donald Trump refused to say if he'll accept the election results Wow So Trump was thinking like the majority, I guess. I was kind of surprised by that. What? What was that poll who came up with that poll Reuters really Yeah Holy moly Two things got ancillary to it The first is Kellyanne Conway was on Broll show and Brolf is he either setting so I'm sorry I saw this yeah He's a dick

CHAPTER 22 / 46 Discussion

Wolf Blitzer and Kellyanne Conway Media Bias Clash

Wolf Blitzer expresses concern for the safety of young journalists at Trump rallies, asking Kellyanne Conway to intervene. Conway counters by pointing out the "collusion" between journalists and the Clinton campaign revealed in leaked emails, specifically mentioning reporters allowing John Podesta to edit their quotes. She also notes that the Twitter feeds of many "embed" journalists are overwhelmingly negative toward Donald Trump, suggesting the responsibility for fairness goes both ways.

wolf blitzer· kellyanne conway· cnn· john podesta· freedom of the press· media bias

1:25:52 Well, correct. And I have to say this Kellyanne Conway which I follow when she in the mid and late 90s when she was young and she was the...I think the model for Ann Coulter and everybody in between. She was the fast talking pretty blonde that would promote the conservative line better than anybody else And so I watched it and she turned over time, because she has a business to run. She's turning into probably the most pleasant person imaginable who is very hard to get mad at. Oh, I agree. I agree. Yeah, done a good job. To me it felt like he was setting something up

1:26:36 If we're talking about the same thing at the end of this long interview, which I don't care about at all. But I cared a lot about what he was trying to set up. I don't know why he was so overly protective of his young journalists. The young, we have to protect our young journalists. They are the future of CNN. disappointed and very concerned. I'm kind of shocked to read some of the things we read from working journalists either giving untold amounts of money to Hillary Clinton's campaign or, I think worse specific journalist Wolf who are inviting John Podesta the campaign chairman to change words or passages or paragraphs

1:27:28 quotes in a written piece. I mean, that's not journalism that advocacy and frankly that's collusion so there is any spectrum between coziness to collaboration to collusion? Any of that would bother us. I think if you're Donald Trump you realize whether it's Jim Rutenberg article in the New York Times couple months ago or other articles since many journalists have admitted that Donald Trump compels them to suspend objective standards of journalism I think America deserves to have the race covered fairly. But you know what worries me? And I'm not objective on this because I am on the steering committee, the reporters' committee for freedom of the press and I really believe in a free press. Yes! If you do as well... The working journal, the embeds who are traveling with him all the time they go to all these rallies they're in this pen he points to them He sort of eggs the crowd onto going after them These-these there are lot of young journalists They're scared sometimes. I know them all. I respect them all

1:28:19 I'm glad that they're on board with your team. He shouldn't be doing that, could you talk to him and say to him Mr Trump we only have a few days left these are hard-working young journalists they deserve to have some security if you will because some of those Trump supporters out there they get pretty nasty in what their screaming at these young people. Look your first point yes i will tell them that second big mistake from Rolf to give her this opening by the way cuz here's where she gets to slip in Here's where she gets a slip in the Project Veritas. goes all the way up to this. She used the operatives word, John. Good. Yeah she used the operators word and here is Brolf with a big setup. It goes all the way up the chain through the DNC and related groups into Hillary Clinton's campaign that's all I saw but i would tell you I'll make a deal with those embeds because they know I know a lot of them. They're young, they're in their twenties and their thirties so there are some of their tweets on their twitter feed

1:29:30 is for some of them, the Twitter feed is almost we've done an analysis 85-90% negative towards Donald Trump. You didn't hear anything good to say? There's nothing good to report that day? Hit it bro hit it! That you would actually put on your Twitter feed so I think the responsibility has to go both ways but you're right I am open press I believe in a free press I believe in honest press He can criticize the press, but he doesn't have to say what I'm hoping. He's watching us right now and I hope at least in these final days he doesn't continue to point out as he often does that these rallies look at them they're disgusting because you know God forbid there could be an ugly incident it worries me every time i hear that And I hear these stories from these journalists who are often very scared. Oh, yeah, we say that and I will be very scared. Very scared It sounds like a setup to me Sounds like bull crap

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Political Vandalism and Social Media Echo Chambers

The segment reports on the destruction of Donald Trump's star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame and local incidents of vandalism against Trump supporters' property. Adam Curry shares an anecdote about a private Facebook group for former MTV employees where supporting Trump is treated as a "social faux pas." The hosts argue that the lack of visible Trump support, such as bumper stickers, is due to fear of retribution and property damage.

donald trump· hollywood walk of fame· mtv· facebook· vandalism· social faux pas

1:30:18 Yeah, it was set up. We already had that one munchkin woman... what's her name? From Breitbart. Oh he pulled me on the arm! Oh my arm! He broke my arm! Look there is a smudge! Whatever happened to them? I just want to say couple of things One of the things is that talking about the violent left like they recently a bunch of Hillary operatives in Hollywood had gone after with the looking like supposedly looking like workers they dressed up. They went all the way to get dressed up with a right uniform and then they dug up that Donald Trump starred in, ruined it on one of his own Hollywood blog. Really? Yeah. So that's been destroyed. Bullies nobody's reported this and then local reporting in Hollister talks about this guy, this one guy who has a Donald Trump sign in his front yard and he spent stolen. They busted up his car

1:31:13 as windows broken. It was a major story locally there, but this goes on everywhere whether you don't see too many Trump signs anywhere and I think this is one of the reasons that if there's the... This is one of things you're gonna see If Trump does win like the professor thinks or Michael Moore, this is gonna be the excuse of the pollsters. Well you know nobody would tell us the truth! Yeah they have to. And I think there's some element of truth to that which is are you going vote for Trump? No! I agree. Because you're afraid of retributions, the retribution level...I would challenge anybody to put up a for Trump even if you're for Trump Well let me give you real world example on the face bag. In Berkeley Real world example on the face bag there is a private group called I used to work at MTV when it was cool and Are you a member? I'm a member

1:32:07 Oh yeah. I remember and it's usually, you know if people are like, Hey look at this t-shirt I got from 1985. Hey look at that! I got an MTV video music awards lunchbox. That was a lot of it that end too bad he died there's a lot dying obituaries in that group right? He died time ago yeah well no lots of people have died in the group so it's not a good group to be in and so then someone posts hey anyone here gonna vote for Trump And there's like a hundred. No, no, no never. Not a single one of course and I'm sitting doesn't make any sense. I know nothing like Ooh, what am I going to post? And then I decided why don't I just post that MTV blooper reel that I've had for 30 years which I did have you seen it now Oh, you got to look at the face bags guys. I put it on the tweeters too. Oh, okay. Show notes is great

1:33:02 But yeah, it just goes to show no one's going to say...no one is going admit anything in a situation like that. No, it has been considered as the social faux pas to support Trump and so... And I also think that was really passive aggressive for anyone even post out in a group about MTV. A-hole! Yeah, I agree. There's been a lot of these you know if you have a sign or but yeah You don't see any bumper stickers there's not it's just not gonna happen. No it gets defaced They're gonna get to face the car is gonna get scratched up who knows? I mean this is a Clinton side is a violent group of people now for the people who are advanced and that would include the no agenda producing audience among those

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Podesta Family Lobbying and Qatar Defense Contracts

A State Department briefing features a reporter questioning spokesperson John Kirby about the "cozy" relationship between John Podesta and his sister-in-law, lobbyist Heather Podesta. In 2012, while John Podesta served as a counselor to the State Department, Heather Podesta's firm saw a surge in foreign military sales contracts, including $19 billion in deals with Qatar. The hosts highlight the lack of a substantive answer from the State Department regarding this potential conflict of interest.

john podesta· heather podesta· qatar· department of state· lobbying· defense contracts

1:33:45 The WikiLeaks have showed some very interesting connections and a question came up in the State Department with Kirby. I'm really only going to play the question because he spent seven minutes not being able to answer it, but this is the connections between Podesta, the Saudis slash Qataris and lobbying groups, and family connections. And it is quite interesting. In 2012 Secretary Clinton's final year as secretary of state federal lobbying records show that a leading defense contractor hired a trio of lobbyists

1:34:26 to lobby the Department of State for a larger share of foreign military sales contracts by which, as you know advanced weapon systems are shared with other countries. The federal lobbying records show that all three of those lobbyists were large donors or bundlers for Hillary Clinton in both her 2008 and 2016 campaigns Among those lobbyists was Heather Podesta whose brother-in-law that year was John Podesta, who that year was serving as a counselor at the Department of State for approximately $130,000 dollars a year and also a member of a policy advisory board that Secretary Clinton created. As it happened the gambit appeared to have worked because that defense contractor's share of foreign military sales contracts surged in 2012

1:35:20 with three contracts alone for provision of advanced systems to Qatar, totaling for that firm some $19 billion in contracts. Even if no laws were broken it would seem a fairly cozy situation wouldn't it? Well thanks James what I would tell you is... You don't have to hear his answer No he has no answer How about that! This is Jim. 19 billion to his sister-in-law! Woohoo! I mean, not all that money of course but that was the lobby. No but there's a piece of the action and there are all kinds of backdoor deals...backroom deals too. I'm sure besides the salary there was probably money under the table. Oh yeah. Who knows? These guys are pros at this And this will go unreported

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Al Gore and Hillary Clinton Climate Change Alliance

Despite documented animosity between the Clintons and the Gores, Al Gore appears on stage with Hillary Clinton in Florida to discuss climate change. Leaked emails from Cheryl Mills suggest that Gore's endorsement was not a given. The hosts speculate that Gore's participation is a strategic move to secure a position as UN Ambassador for climate change in a potential Clinton administration.

al gore· hillary clinton· florida· climate change· un ambassador· cheryl mills

1:36:11 Yeah, no. Why bother? It might hurt Hillary's campaign so let's don't talk about it." I mean there is a lot of this stuff going on... A lot of good questions being asked but really no answers just zero No, nononono none of it! Um..I was thinking about Al Gore... Why?! Well because Hillary was in Florida again This is the big battleground state And Gore wasn't with her this time, he was with her last time. Which I already thought was strange and here's a thought that occurred to me... They hate each other! The Clintons and the Gores- This is pretty well documented i think they do not like each other. And I believe Gore did not endorse Hillary this year, I don't think he endorsed her in 2008 either

1:37:04 And this is coming from some of the WikiLeaks. You can see that there's animosity, I think it's Cheryl Mills who says yeah we already knew he gave us a heads up he wasn't going to endorse her like there's no big surprise so why was he on stage with her? Well i know why if she becomes president I guarantee you Al Gore ambassador to the UN Oh It could be Exactly where he wants to be climate change Yes just keep scamming Yeah, you just keep scamming from the inside out. Oh fantastic Fantastic. You have a climate change clip for today? I don't actually I know there was one. I don't know if I got it or not No irony of the day. I don't see anything. I'll see anything either oh yeah This is it co2 pre and now this is another example. Let's take it to the gate

CHAPTER 26 / 46 Discussion

Greenhouse Gas Milestone and Pre-Industrial CO2 Levels

PBS NewsHour anchor Judy Woodruff reports that atmospheric carbon dioxide has reached a "grim milestone" of 400 parts per million. The report claims this is 44% higher than pre-Industrial Revolution levels and could take tens of thousands of years to reverse. The hosts mock the comparison as irrelevant, questioning the validity of using the pre-industrial era as a baseline for modern atmospheric standards.

judy woodruff· pbs· carbon dioxide· greenhouse gases· industrial revolution· climate change

1:38:12 Gotta take it to the gate, boy. And it's misleading. There are a bunch of problems and you have to visualize this particular report, this is Judy Woodruff and as she makes her point at the end of this, it's like a two sentence thing, she lunges forward eyes kind of like bug-eyed so this is incredibly important to know

1:38:49 There is word that greenhouse gases passed a grim milestone in 2015. The UN's weather organization says carbon dioxide in the atmosphere reached 400 parts per million last year for the first time on record. The agency says that is 44% more CO2 than before the Industrial Revolution. Its lifetime is very long and there have been some scientific studies estimating that the return back to pre-industrial levels may take tens of thousands of years. Oh, boy! We're all gonna die. Tens of thousands of years? Yeah. I'm just forgetting about the whole thing. We are going to die man. All over. So she... Here's the claim it's now higher than the pre-Industrial Revolution era. Duh! Duh! All we had then was cow and human farts. It was besides a population being so

1:39:49 drastically different. I mean, it's been a triple since then but what is this point of comparison? It's just beyond me! Why would you emphasize we're at 400 parts per million did you know this is worse?! Hey hey hey John! It just baffled me how they could make this emphasis on something that's irrelevant and probably wrong. Uh, it doesn't baffle me. Well it does, it baffles me because you'd think somebody in the studio would say hey this comparison is stupid why are we doing it? Because it says right here on this piece of paper that I'm going to read from... Science!

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James Clapper Warns Against Syria No-Fly Zone

Director of National Intelligence James Clapper warns that Russia's sophisticated air defense systems in Syria could lead to the shooting down of American aircraft if a no-fly zone is imposed. This contradicts Hillary Clinton's proposed policy, which Donald Trump has warned could lead to World War III. The hosts note a shift in the media narrative, moving from the US shooting down Russian jets to the threat of Russia shooting down US planes.

james clapper· syria· no-fly zone· russia· air defense· world war iii

1:40:42 Shut up already. Don't ask a weak example, but I don't know why you're pushing back on all this. Hey, clapper clip it. Cloppy clapper was at CFR Council of Foreign Relations the drinking club he went to do some clapping at the drinking hole with his buddy Charlie Rose, also a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. And I thought this was very interesting. Again there's so many things...I do not understand who is working the Trump campaign if they want to be competitive? I would make a commercial out of this actually! What is one of Hillary's solutions for ISIS?!

1:41:24 No fly zone. What? No fly zone! Oh yeah, the no- oh I have a clip from this too We probably have the same clip Yeah this is...this I was just like what when i heard this Did you go self? What?! I did self what? Did you exclaim it out loud? I did So that is her solution, a no-fly zone. We have the white helmets being paid by the National Endowment for Democracy and USAID who are promoting the same concept and of course they're heroes. They almost got the Nobel Prize which would be a first for paid shills

1:42:01 And so they are the propaganda arm boots on the ground also want a no-fly zone Here's what the director of national intelligence said now mind you he's lied in Congress, so it could be lying Now we don't know anymore But this was his opinion about a no fly zone What's your assessment of how Russia will react if the u.s? Imposes and no flies owner is safe zone in parts of Syria This was a question from the audience well I don't know. Again, not a mind reader but I do take seriously the very sophisticated air defense system and the air defense coverage that the Russians have and I think...I wouldn't put it past them to shoot down American aircraft if they felt that was threatening their forces on the ground so I take stock

1:42:56 And the nature of the weaponry that they deploy and why they did that. Yo! Yeah, they'll shoot us out of the sky. Why did-why'd they do that? What is he talking about something in present tense or in past tense that it was done already? I missed it let me roll back. The very answer's why did they do that? Let me listen. Threatening to their forces on the ground So I take stock in the nature of the weaponry that they deploy and why they... Oh, listen to the whole ending. I know what you're talking about here He'll explain it in full ending And why they did that The system we have there is a very advanced air defense systems Very capable and I don't think they do it deployed unless They had some intent to use it

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NATO Troop Buildup and Russian Defense Narrative

NATO plans to deploy battle groups to Poland and the Baltic states as tensions rise between Russia and the West over the Syrian crisis. The hosts observe that the US is also placing troops in Norway, contributing to a global military buildup. They criticize the media for framing Russia as the aggressor while the US and NATO expand their presence near Russian borders.

nato· poland· norway· russia· syria· military buildup

1:43:46 There you go. They have intent to use it. Uh-huh, sure they do. So I would say hey if this is really her policy that's a non starter because we're gonna get into war with Russia which is the intent Which is—my clip's a little different, because I think it involves an analysis and not just clapper. I'm not sure, but played NATO troop buildup in odd speculation. Ah yes. plan, NATO's planning to send battle groups to Poland, Lithuania, Estonia and Latvia with forces ranging from armored infantry to drones. This comes as tension mounts between Russia and the United States over the crisis in Syria." On Tuesday, U.S. National Intelligence Director James Clapper said he fears Russia could shoot down a U.S. aircraft if a no-fly zone were imposed over Syria.

1:44:44 Meanwhile, Donald Trump warned in an interview Tuesday Hillary Clinton's policy on Syria could lead to World War III. Yeah it could but who cares? So we have troops now in Norway We're putting them everywhere It's ridiculous and then... Hello Norway! And by the way I think what's overlooked in this is the great way that they switch the narrative from defense to offense on the part of the, and pointing their finger at Russia for this. The narrative if you remember when they first started talking about the no-fly zone was well what's going to happen is that Russians aren't gonna pay any attention to this or we're gonna shoot down a Russian jet! And now it's changed the Russians will shoot us down

1:45:33 It's changed to Russia, those bastards. Russia is gonna shoot us down. I mean right now- It's unbelievable. I thought that was one of the smoothest moves, nobody has noticed it. The media is like, oh yeah the Russians are going to kill us! In fact i had to go back and listen to the clip three times because they were like wait a minute he's talking about a Russian no-fly zone? No, the question was clearly US no flyzone. It was smooth although it didn't sound like Clapper ever thought about it. I've never heard him say we're gonna shoot a Russian down I've never heard him say that, so maybe this has been his thinking all along. But it's definitely a change as we hear from Judy there. Totally! Now... One more thing because this leads to some interesting things going on in the world. We have the big

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PBS Allegations of Russian Barrel Bombs and White Phosphorus

A PBS NewsHour report features a commander from the Free Syrian Army claiming that Russian and Syrian jets are dropping barrel bombs, cluster bombs, and white phosphorus on civilians. John C. Dvorak disputes the technical possibility of jets dropping barrel bombs, which are typically deployed from helicopters. The hosts characterize the report as a "sales call" for more US weapons to be sent to Syrian rebels.

pbs newshour· syria· barrel bombs· white phosphorus· cluster bombs· free syrian army

1:46:22 Airshow China 2016 coming up. against the Russians so we can put up the no-fly zone and do the rest of it. Now, I have to kind of describe what this clip shows and I shortened it on purpose because it was a long clip. It had some screwy logo in the upper left hand corner one of those glass logos that that was in Arabic and it wasn't Al Jazeera, it wasn't that other operation. That's a news source. It looked like... I don't know who it looked like these clips that they pieced together were bull crap! They're all war crimes. They were all attributed to the Russians

1:47:13 And they were done on the news hour with a, I can't remember that woman's name. It used to be one of the sit downs and now she is out in the field I was actually jaw-dropped by this particular assertion that they made. He then traveled to the regional headquarters of the Free Syrian Army, made up of self declared moderate rebels Its commander Colonel Abdul Jabbar Akhidi told us bluntly how desperately they needed weapons from the United States The Syrian people will not forget any country that provides them with support and will not forgive any country that helps the Assad regime. But in the four years since then, none of Hawa's hopes but all of his fears have been realized

1:48:01 Haritan has been repeatedly pounded by bombing from Russian and Syrian jets dropping not only explosive packed barrel bombs but cluster bombs and the fearsome incendiary white phosphorus. Ah, okay So they show it was just a bunch of explosions now I don't know any jets that can be outfitted with barrel bombs. And why would you do that when you can have real bombs? But okay, well... She actually said jets are dropping barrel bombs?! Yes! Idiot. No So she says, yes no. She says that if you play it short, play the little part again where she says Russian and Syrian jets are dropping a barrel bomb. The Syrian people will not forget any country that provides them with support and will not forgive any country that helps the Assad regime. But in the four years since then none of Hawa's hopes but all his fears have been realized

1:49:02 Haritan has been repeatedly pounded by bombing from Russian and Syrian jets, dropping not only explosive-packed barrel bombs but cluster bombs and the fearsome incendiary white phosphorus. There's no way you can't do that! It is not possible That's not possible. The second two items though are possible but they're not being done and we've never heard this Cluster bombs are illegal by any stretch of the imagination We are the country that uses cluster bombs, in USA And they showed a cluster bomb going off somewhere God knows where it was It looked like B-roll to me and then which they blamed on the Russians so now using cluster bombs

1:49:45 Instead of, you know they're targeted. The Russians claim that they're accurate and not- They're not dropping cluster bombs are doing accurate these little guided bombs and then they show a sky full of It's just a huge sky full of fireworks dropping down, claiming it is white phosphorus and then catching the big city on fire. This is like against the Geneva Convention you can't use white phosphorous and we've heard zero reports when there are plenty of opportunities to give us reports And you'd think the State Department would say something. We've heard nothing about white phosphorus, but yet PBS is reporting this as though it's fact!

1:50:28 Let me listen to the beginning of that report again for a second. He then traveled to the regional headquarters of the Free Syrian Army, made up of self-declared moderate rebels Its commander Colonel Abdul Jabbar Akhidi told us bluntly how desperately they needed weapons from the United States See this is all about Desperately needing weapons This is it's probably just another sales call if you think about it Hey They're dropping phosphorus and barrel bombs out of jets and... We need weapons And this leads me to my story, November 1st through November 6th in Zhuhai. Z-H-U-H-A-I. Zhuhai? Zuhai China? Zhuhai you know? Uh, say zee? Z-H-U-H-A-I. Zuhai! Zuhai!

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Airshow China 2016 and Global Arms Race

The upcoming Airshow China 2016 in Zhuhai is highlighted as a major event for the global arms industry, with Russia as the primary exhibitor. The hosts discuss the "arms race" to profit from conflicts in the Middle East, including Yemen. They suggest that military hardware is being "exhibited" in real-world combat zones to serve as a sales pitch for international buyers.

airshow china· zhuhai· russia· military hardware· arms race· middle east

1:51:17 It's probably pronounced some way other than that. Anyway, we have the big China airshow China 2016 number one exhibitor Russia 200 different pieces of military hardware featuring military and civil aircraft, spacecrafts space equipment aviation equipment armament aircraft with rocket engines armament military hardware for airborne troops fire control systems air defense complexes radar stations navigation equipment. This is an arms race more than anything who's going to make the most money off of rubbleizing the Middle East the way I see it? Well the middle Easterners are not appreciating this

1:52:01 No. Being just an exe... it's like, hey let's do this! Let's show how good our weaponry is by blowing up these people we don't care about And, you know and obviously we're not blowing up Qatar. They you know they're helping you know they're gonna probably get a piece of the action as a middleman or Bahrain is okay and Dubai is okay but all these sand monkeys in the middle of nowhere... Did you just say sand monkeys? Yeah sand monkeys that's what I'm telling this I'm like a salesman for the arms industry this is the way I think so Let's just blow these guys up. Yemen is a good opportunity, nobody is paying attention to that we can do some exhibits there because you know the stupid Houthis took over and who cares about them? And or the people or poor kids and all of the families of Yemen this is bomb them!

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ISIL Drone Usage and Kinetic Kill Terminology

A US military commander in Iraq describes ISIL's "creative" use of drones for reconnaissance and as "Trojan horses" rigged with explosives. The commander uses the term "kinetic kill" to describe shooting down drones with small arms fire. The hosts mock the use of such "idiotic" military terminology and predict that these stories will be used to justify new regulations or bans on civilian drones in the United States.

isil· drones· uav· kinetic kill· trojan horse· iraq

1:52:51 and show how good this equipment works, and then we can use it as a sales pitch. And I think there's more coming on the horizon. There is a whole new category of armament which is probably already on the assembly line ready to roll out because ISIS and ISIL now, John. Making use of drones. Okay... This is the US commander in Iraq I think i heard your question fairly clearly It was about ISIL's use of drones or remotely piloted vehicles or unmanned aerial systems we'll call them drones for short Yeah just little toy drones really So the ISIL makes extensive use of drones it's not Hey did you notice that he says THE ISIL

1:53:35 Instead of I slowly says the back end if I didn't hear that yeah So the ISIL makes extensive use it right. That's new. That's no good. I like I'm going to use it the ISIL Just like the Googles the eyesoles It's not episodic or sporadic its relatively constant and creative man, so we've seen them use them mostly for reconnaissance and surveillance The same way you use them for your little dipshit drones. Oh, oh! You think huh? We have detected them using them for fire direction in the past by that I mean to control and adjust indirect fires that they're shooting at the... At the back of a Toyota?! Yes

1:54:20 Yeah, no I can see that working. You send a little drone up with the camera you can get some coordinates and you can send in your rockets to set the coordinates. It's called painting the target. Control and adjust to the indirect fires that they're shooting at our partner forces. It gets better! More recently, they've gotten a bit more creative and they have dropped small explosive devices into our partner force positions. And it gets better? Those haven't had fortunately great effect. Recently we saw an example of a Trojan horse

1:54:59 UAV or drone where it was landed in our partner forces lines. They thought they had good fortune, they had captured an enemy drone and when they went to collect it and bring into their lines for examination it exploded. Our government is working really hard as a day wrecker to come up with solutions So we have solutions ranging from electronic attack like you suggested to kinetic kills with small arms fire Okay, so they're now using the drawings Wait that would the word is they use for a guy with a rifle and a scope or maybe a pistol if They call it a kinetic kill I call it sport. Oh

1:55:45 Kinetic kill with small arms fire. Kinetic kill means a bullet, it's kinetic energy, accumulated kinetic energy from a bullet hits the thing and it blows out of the sky. Why are they using these idiotic terms? To make it sound important! Unbelievable... KINETIC KILL So a couple of things can happen. First of all, we're going to have to outlaw drones in America You can't have your drone if you have the Trojan horse drone It could land and all the kids go over Oh cute little drone Fantastic Yeah, you watch there's gonna be a whole crap We'll wait until Airshow China I betcha it's gonna be a whole bunch The problem with this drone story which brings me to another clip

CHAPTER 32 / 46 Discussion

NCIS New Orleans Drone Swarm and CIA Domestic Operations

An episode of NCIS: New Orleans featuring a "swarm of drones" and CIA agents operating on domestic soil is analyzed as predictive programming. The hosts suggest the show is acclimating the public to the presence of law enforcement drones and the normalization of intelligence agencies working within US borders. They note the "mixed messages" in television dramas that both exalt and criticize federal agencies.

ncis new orleans· drones· cia· domestic spying· propaganda· television

1:56:35 is that, I think they're setting us up even though this is a clip from NCIS New Orleans. This clip was called CIA NCIS. This was about there's some guy they're trying to capture in the United States and there's this swarm of drones that nobody knows where they came from or who's flying them trying to track some guy down Kill him. Swarm of drones! A swarm of drones, and so they finally the NCIS guys who are much smarter than everybody else They've got because they know the Bayou

1:57:11 And so they're driving around the byway and they were in one of those boats with a big propeller in the back. There's some beautiful shots, I have to say, as this thing flying and they finally got the guy... The bad guys caught the guy and dragged him out but then they surrounded him and shot it out and all the bad guys were killed. The guy that wanted was there. Next thing you know, they find where the drones are coming from and this is kind of what proceeds. Getting signals when nobody's home? Still hot. Someone was. Prep, CIA. CIA? What the hell is it third drones any idea what they're looking for yeah Emily don't scream not if you understand NCIS don't move wait the Everglades air guy last I heard it's illegal for CIA to operate on domestic soil mr. Jenkins

1:58:25 You need to let her go and then put your hands in the air now. Okay, so there's some CIA guy operating on domestic soil? Yes And it's like the mixed messages of this show because they this show always exalts this this CIS crowd and Navy in particular.

1:59:03 They're always butting heads with the CIA, which seems to always be in all these shows. The CIA is always roaming around doing something they're not supposed to be doing and the second thing is I thought was a kind of setup which is this drones. These drones are around and what we gonna do? I think what your clip led into was that thinking that yes let's get used to drones flying around by law enforcement. I'm not absolutely sure just like it says mixed messaging Cognizant of what the with the overall what the endgame is but it's got something to do with drones Yeah, sounds which sounds right to me Let me play a little TV clip although much much older in nature I was looking based on something. I thought which turned out to be incorrect you know with United Nations Apparently licensing Wonder Woman to be the near the future of all things groovy. I thought it was her who? had to worship this goddess and

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Secrets of ISIS 1970s TV Show and UN Wonder Woman

The hosts revisit the 1970s television show "The Secrets of ISIS," which featured a science teacher endowed with powers by the goddess Isis. This follows a discussion about the United Nations naming Wonder Woman as an honorary ambassador. They joke that modern news reports on the terrorist group ISIS should adopt the show's dramatic opening narration for comedic effect.

secrets of isis· wonder woman· united nations· 1970s tv· hatshepsut

2:00:04 And it turns out it wasn't her, It is from a different 70s TV show called The Secrets of ISIS. I just thought would be funny to play the opening from that TV show and maybe someone can use that in some mix somewhere Oh my queen, said the royal sorcerer to Hatshepsut. With this amulet you and your descendants are endowed by the goddess Isis with the powers of animals and elements You will soar as a falcon soars Run with the speed of gazelles And command the elements of sky and earth

2:00:42 3,000 years later a young science teacher dug up this lost treasure and found she was heir to the secrets of Isis. And so unknown to even her closest friends Rick Mason and Cindy Lee she became a dual person Andrea Thomas teacher Oh mighty Isis! and Isis Now that's how the news should start off with their ISIS report. Well, they should change it to Hillary! No just keep it ISIS I like ISIS. Well, ISIS is a mix of messages now you can't use ISIS anymore

2:01:37 Now I was just hoping, I thought for a moment. Was it Wonder Woman who said that? By the power of ISIS because that would have been genius but it wasn't sadly. But I just liked it so much and like holy crap! Do you remember that show? I remember that show The ISIS Show Yeah No, I don't remember it at all. I remember the original Wonder Woman with Linda whatever her name is. Yeah, Linda Carter. Linda Carter yeah. This is a gem! Well we do have some people to thank obviously for our anniversary show 872

CHAPTER 34 / 46 Discussion

Anniversary Donation Segment and Global Producer Roll Call

In a lengthy donation segment for the ninth anniversary, the hosts thank producers from around the world, including Germany, Australia, Canada, and the UK. Notable contributions include a $1,000 donation from Thomas Hithaller and various "Niner Niner" ($99.99) donations. The segment highlights the show's diverse international audience and the "value-for-value" model that sustains the broadcast.

keith warford· thomas hithaller· knighthood· germany· australia· canada

2:02:20 And let's start with Keith Warford in Fayetteville, Arkansas who seems to have kept himself out of the idea. I don't know maybe we should throw in the penny and get him an associate executive producer. Oh, I think so! Let's bump him up to $200. And there was another one Thomas Hitler... Hitler? Hit-toler. Hitler. Hitler. Hitler. He must give them grief. We'll take the 199.99 because it has the symbolism but we'll give you the Associate Executive Producer because we don't have any. Yeah, I agree that is a good gesture both of them 1-9er 9er 9er 9er

2:02:59 Right. So starting with Keith, here's to it thanks to a dude named Ben and fade I'm a dude name benefit of Arkansas no dude named Ben and fade real Arkansas hit him in the mouth. Yeah that's our dude named Ben he's also producer floats around yeah especially insightful during the campaign and helping keeping some sanity here's another here's to another 900 shows He would like a NoNoNoNo Obama but being bong boon being bong Trump Anna Jeb please clap Okay, so I wasn't quite ready for that because obviously I didn't know we're gonna do this but I can do it hold on

2:03:38 I just need the police clap and he needs karma as well, I presume. Oh yeah. Okay. Police clap You've got karma. Done! $199.00 to $200 with the penny thrown in, happy anniversary I'm not mistaken this should complete my long road to knighthood and fortunately my payroll history doesn't go back that far so i cannot be certain and I think it...I think you're probably over keep up the good work and thank you for your courage Thank you for your courage sir! And I look forward to your knighting in a bit

2:04:34 Onward we have Douglas Garcia in Dunbarton, New Hampshire. One two three four five and he's a de-douching We can do that. Yeah started listening in August Welcome citizen you've been D douche nice good to have you on board Thank You and Baronet Donald Barofsky ah in the Federation Spokane Valley Washington Came in with a note hold on Holding on okay everybody the note has to be retrieved Standby Okay, let's get a top shot here. So you can see him rummaging through the pile. Back to one and go. All right so he always sends an official note in from the United Federation of Planets in the correct letterhead. Monsieur Zakarian-Dvorak I am overwhelmed with political fatigue caused by the mainstream media. I get welcome relief from no agenda! The discussions on the presidential campaign are refreshing

2:05:30 Signed, Baronet Donald of the Fire Bottles. Yo-yo! W A 6 O M I 7 3's Kilo 5 Alpha Charlie Charlie Onward Alexander Bortok $111.11 Bradley Selsor, $109.99 that was a creative way to go we have a birthday for her it looks like that's not on the list let's see Bradley Selsor no we don't let me see Brad Brad Brad Bradley okay okay her day of birthdays today and her name is Karen how old is she?

2:06:14 Doesn't want to say okay. Good man She's 21 yeah Chris Hanton in Cortland, Ohio $102 and 80 cents of birthday involved there Andrew blowers in parts unknown 102 dollars and 70 cents Laura the Wow ZZ Diaz zio zia zio zia zio That sounds more like some sort of an eastern name than well anyway spelled dziadzio. It's dynamite name I know how to pronounce that name and her husband Amit Hajra's birthday tough one uh Actually, do I see this one here? It's not on it This is not on you got it. No that's weird. He's got it in yellow. It usually doesn't make that mistake Oh, I got it. I'm sorry yes. It's here we're good

2:07:05 Ian Trimble, or as I like to say, Aion. $100. Jeffrey Preston in Bennington, Nebraska 100. Alex Hunsaker... Now these are all the 99.99 donations we're gonna read them and order name and location. Well i think we first should do uh the official opening of The Niner Niners. There we go! Alex Hunsicker, parts unknown. David Rose in Clarkston Michigan Henry Clays in Rancho Palos Verdes California Lucas Zuha in Munich You missed David Rosa in Clarkston No I said David Rose in Clarkston Michigan Rosa yeah It's a Rosa Henry Clay they did that too Lucas Zuha in Munich

2:07:51 Deutschland, 99.99. Sir Jim Mann KF5YAE73 in Ringgold Louisiana. Sir Hank Scorpio of the Electric Grid in Gatineau Quebec David Romagosa in Metairie Louisiana Duane Biblo in Calgary Alberta Ashik L Musani in Oman. Nice, got a visit! Yeah I'd love to go to Oman too. Allen Lennon in Washington DC or Annie. I don't know why I said Allen, Annie. Hey Annie. You know there's huge ratio of women and men there? Hey Annie, I'm not your daddy

2:08:44 James Smith in Ottawa, Ontario. Donald Wooten in Lancaster Ohio Melissa Hodges is parts unknown Christopher Herring also in Munchen, Munich. You're on a roll today! Deutschland Munich. Steve Munchen. It was all mess on the screen because I know Stephen Hightower, parts unknown. Robin Morley in Nottingham Great Britain. Gabriel... I've been to Nottingham. Gabriel Olinger in Manchester New Hampshire Michael Selvagna, I guess and Stouffville Ontario Canada we got a good worldwide listenership here. Yes for sure. Joost Schipperheim How about Joost Schipperheim?

2:09:35 I got that second part, Jost. Oh you nailed it! Eindhoven Yeah very good Sir Brian Barrow and Royal Wooten Bassett. You're getting a lot of Brits today because Brexit means Brexit, and that's the joke that people get there. Brexit means Brexit! Craig Porter, parts unknown. Ecuador Eric in Richmond Virginia Matthew Januszewski in parts unknown Alexander Mercuriev I would say Also known as father of the Yale girl. Sir Kirk of the Happy Valley in Genosio, New York Jason Gossin in Richmond BC Canada Sir Arthur Gobbits in Zondam He has a Confucius say for you Night who bugs kitties sometimes can grab pussy Hugs kitties not bugs

2:10:33 Oh, hugs. In the case of Trump it's bugs. Matthew McDonough in Front Royal Virginia. A lot of Virginians today that's a good sign. Jason Doolin in Las Vegas Nevada. Bashir Osman and Haro Middlesex UK Wayne Larkham in Sunnybanks, Queensland Australia. Sir... Sir... Quinn Jibu. Quinn Jibu. Quinn Jibu. Quinn Jibu. Otherwise known as Jan LeClerc in Luxembourg. Pat Deary in Sarnia Ontario. Sam Godwin in San Jose. Daniel Ehrlich in Bowlesburg Pennsylvania. John Campagna parts unknown and Sir John parts unknown

2:11:20 Aka Red, Mary Santayla in Tucson Arizona. Sir Woody Sioux Falls North Dakota South Dakota sorry sorry sorry Herbert Garrett in Raleigh North Carolina Bruce Begnoke Gee, I'm hoping Also Virginia all the spooks are out man. Yeah, it's great Middle Ocean Virginia to be exact Josh McDonald and Mount Waverly Victoria Australia Nick Meilinger in Wiesbaden Deutschland

2:11:57 So, okay. We ran out of steam...sorry with Bruce and Josh McDonald's actually $99.97 and Nick Meilinger in Wiesbaden Deutschland is 99.29 he's got a birthday so we got that on there. All right so thats our world view. Just looking at the list but we may have more influence in Washington than we think these are people who these are probably people who work at letter agencies All the Virginians? Yeah, or military. Yeah could be and they're all...they seem they're not located it seems like to me knowing where some of these towns are they're not in the Richmond area which is definitely outside of DC's influence you know You never know It's a long commute from there yeah Traffic commute is crazy anyway for anybody

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Dame Molly of the Deep South and Transgender Producers

Producer Molly Peppercan Kincade requests a title change to "Dame Molly of the Deep South" and identifies as a transgender producer. The hosts discuss the use of emojis in donation notes, specifically the "tongue sticking out" face, which some interpret as a "raspberries" gesture. They acknowledge their transgender audience members and grant the requested title upgrade.

dame molly· transgender· title change· hillary clinton· raspberries emoji

2:12:50 They chop her in. Yeah, sure they do! They take the tunnels you know the ones that go all across the country. Oh right! The secret trains. There's also sub routes that way. Boobs boobs boobooboo booboobs boobs boobs boobs booboobooboobooboobs boobs boobs booboobooboobooboobs boobs boobs boobs booboobooboobooboobs boobs And that's boobs, that's $80.08 in Dresden another one the Dresden Deutschland Heinrich Ueberricht says from Germany love the show I'm glad we're getting you pass it on we could need insurance and audience to be more Deutscher's Holly Molly holly molly molly pepper an kincaid

2:13:38 It's not really called, it's pepper and it's got some weird pronunciation. Now she has a title change coming up today right? She has a boob thing going on well she's in as though she is gonna be knighted. And she under the titles for some reason Well, she's used it. It's been a year since you listen regularly now she's listening again She was overboard only had to do is work my ass off again and if you failed jingles and donation I've missed and i'm glad i'm back in the mix. I remember when I became a dangerous She is a dame already Okay worth every cent She says I need to request a new title now. She's gonna be dame molly of the deep south. Ah, okay There you go

2:14:19 Do you have a trans producers, please give everyone some jobs. We're going to do that at the end for you." Wait so she's trans? That's what she says? Yeah nice yeah well thanks. What did she say? She said she is trans! But that's what she says here. If you've heard of Dame I request a new title please dub me Dame of the Day... You have trans producers please give her- Okay it says and yes Adam you DO HAVE trans producers smiley face tongue sticking out smiley face okay You know, so I did the tongue sticking out smiley face recently. Somebody said that meant the raspberries. I never heard that before. I always thought it was just his tongue sticking out. Well this he also did the uh... He didn't capitalize the P so it's just a little tongue just peeping at like a tip of the tongue you know there used to be a character and there's a control alt character you can find on some keyboards where if you push it actually produces a line with a tongue coming out the middle

2:15:17 Really? For all you nerds out there. Yeah, so whoa, whoa, whoa, I guess what do I have to give her? I have to give her a don't eat me Hillary Clinton jobs karma Okay And she also has a call-out I think I saw here somewhere She knew oh, I may need a de douching okay come on John help me find that Oh please call out Michael G as a douchebag You've been D. Okay there you go We break for dames. Gilbert Fraga in Los Angeles, California 80 Jeffrey Cadman and Wheaton Maryland 7979 was odd. Caitlin Williams What? I'm sorry In that note from Molly Dame Molly she sent pictures of herself She's great

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Baron of Guam and No Agenda Book Club

Sir Chad Biderman, the "Baron of Guam," sends a professional letterhead note thanking the show for introducing him to the "Congressional Dish" podcast and the "No Agenda Book Club." He mentions reading "Amusing Ourselves to Death" and "Confessions of an Economic Hitman" as a result of show recommendations. Adam Curry also mentions considering adding Lance Armstrong's podcast to the No Agenda stream.

sir chad biderman· baron of guam· congressional dish· lance armstrong· audiobooks

2:16:16 I'll send it to you later. There's a link there, I saw it. Yeah. Caitlin Williams 7777 Brandon St Armand in Woodstock Ontario 7272 Craig Knowsley in Cumberland BC 6725 Sir Dean Beltram in Waikiki Western Australia Wait a minute... Waikiki? That's way Western Australia. I don't think so, exactly. Very Western Australia! Actually it is Eastern Australia if you go all the way around. This is Sir Dean Barron of the Gold Coast of Ghana

2:16:55 I don't know, maybe he's traveling. Adam Bosley in Oakland California yay! 63-36 Jeffrey Sewell in San Jose California and they sent a note in maybe not. Stefan or Steven Schnabel in Auchinasheen UK which is Ireland or Scotland? Or maybe it's Wales, I'm not sure Robert Wood, 5510 Double Nickels on the Dime. Thanks for the nine years of great work he says. Andy Benz and Sir Andor Ball, double nickels on the dime and he wants to be a... He's gonna be a baronet I guess it's up there? Yep! Josh McDonald double nickels on the dime Radu Pertuk

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CHAPTER 37 / 46 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony for Sir Thomas Hithaller

Thomas Hithaller is officially knighted as "Sir Hithaller, Knight of the No Agenda Roundtable" for his contribution of $1,000. The hosts perform the traditional knighting ceremony, listing the humorous "load" of rewards provided to new knights. They speculate that Hithaller may be Viennese and encourage him to share photos of his knight's ring on social media.

thomas hithaller· knighthood· vienna· no agenda roundtable· ceremony

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2:23:40 Because we deserve that Let's see, we have the make good Joel Gordon donated $74 for show 860 somehow it didn't make the spreadsheet So birthday call out and vigorous de-douching for his brother Jeremy Gordon who celebrated on the 22nd You've been D douche And we have our two title changes today Upgrades are always nice. Let's see, we have Sir Anderbal becomes a baronet. Congratulations to you and Molly Peppercan Kincade upgrades her status and upgrades her title she is now henceforth to be known as Dame Molly of the Deep South! It must feel good when you get that jingle I like it yeah okay time for the blades We got just one today John just one Okay well let me get this thing out

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CHAPTER 38 / 46 Discussion

GASB Pension Accounting and 2017 Bond Market Collapse

John C. Dvorak warns of an upcoming collapse in the municipal bond market triggered by new Government Accounting Standards Board (GASB) rules. These statements (68-74) require cities to list unfunded pension liabilities on their primary balance sheets, which will reveal that many California cities are effectively broke. Dvorak predicts this financial realization will occur in mid-2017, potentially creating opportunities for investors to short bonds or move into gold and Bitcoin.

gasb· pension crisis· bond market· california· 2017· accounting standards

2:26:32 I have here in my notes. What went down the wrong tube? My saliva! Oh, it's okay... I have here in my notes to talk about the Government Accounting Standards Board. Didn't we talk about that couple times? Okay no you talked about once on The Dvorak Horror, it's unplugged We talked about after the show twice. No. Now you know that is an actual run-down of why we shouldn't talk to each other ever Okay, the government is... By the way I'm sorry it's a veto. A veto Florida. It's not aviato. It's a veto. Okay, a veto. Somebody sent you in to how did you get this information? Chat room chat room okay so we were talking about this go back and listen two shows ago that Horowitz show

2:27:30 And they've come out with these what they call statements. And the government, I'm gonna even discuss this for a minute is just to mention to you that everybody in the stock market all the pros have discussed amongst themselves and in public if you listen to the right shows about the upcoming collapse of the bond market which should take the economy down and by my cycles theory it should happen in 2017 which I've been talking about forever So, 2017...does anything happen in 2017 that would trigger a market collapse? Well it turns out that the Government Accounting Standards Board has come up with a bunch of these statements and I think the numbers are definitely 68-71, 72-73 or 72-73-74 something like that. Those are the numbers you can look them on Google they usually bunch them up and write about

2:28:22 and there's a bunch of PDFs you can read about it. And lot of it doesn't make any sense, and you wouldn't know what the hell was going on. The only reason I know is because my tax preparer happens to be at auditor in a local small city. And he says that the city's not, it just broke. The city is broke like Vallejo was broken Stockton was broken California turns out that most of the cities in California if you really look into it are probably broke which means their bonds will never get paid off and that means they're gonna go bankrupt and probably stiff a lot of investors Everybody, except you know...it's all because of pensions. So the GASB has decided that they have to now put the unresolved pension and all the money they have like the way they did with the post office, all the money that they currently owe people forever so far as their pensions are concerned have to be on the front page of the books and balanced into the bookkeeping.

2:29:22 And so, and this has to be done by June or July of 2017 which is perfect. And if they're stalling for whatever reason it has to absolutely be done by 2018. This means that all of a sudden all these little cities that have all kinds of bonds and other things are gonna go forward with their here's our balance sheet for the city we're broke! pretty much every, with rare exception. There are some cities that little small towns on the up and up but generally speaking in California there's none and is probably a few around the country this is gonna be every this national thing that has to happen and would they actually do it according to Mimi who had talked talk to the state treasurer she's into politics so she gets to do stuff like

2:30:14 She asked about this and the state treasurer says, oh yeah. Yeah we're very aware of what's gonna happen but this is the feds coming down and we were told by the feds that if any little city doesn't follow these rules they're gonna... This in Washington State. Doesn't follow these rules, they're gonna go after us and start finding us at the state level so we're making sure that everybody knows about this and knows how to deal with it which means that in the entire country, this is all gonna happen pretty much all at once. And it's gonna trigger the bond collapse that all these stock market guys have been talking about for years although none of them have said how is going to happen or when its gonna happen I can tell you when it's gonna happen It's happening next year and uh... The one guy who was a super expert I remember watching him on some other talk shows This was about three or four year ago

2:31:06 And he said, well how are we going to know? When are we gonna know when's it gonna happen. He says you know I don't know when it's gonna happen and his conclusion was but when it happens you'll know it. Yeah no kidding so how can we play into this and how can we make a million dollars Well according to this guy this Bond guy he says some of the world's greatest fortunes will be made during this poem yeah hello George Soros And, well there's you can short some bonds. I mean, I don't know. I've talked to Horowitz about this and I've tried it but I've been reading a lot more because I'm very weak. Most people that invest don't know crap about how bonds actually work and how you trade them or where can you get any puts? Can you get any calls? Some of them yes some of them can't they don't know what a puttable bond is. They don't know what a callable bond is. They don't know anything because nobody cares. How about maybe just buy some Bitcoin that may go up

2:32:04 That may be an easy one. No, seriously? Yeah okay you go through that I'll buy gold Oh wait a minute how the tables have turned Pot kettle hello so i don't know all i know is that you got plenty of warning here You've got over six months to work on it and uh I'm sure some people have some ideas. There will be good ideas that come out of this, and here's what you can do if they... Because it was like the credit default swaps that you could've invested in at the end of the housing bubble but you wouldn't be able to figure out how to get there from here in advance unless you're in the business already. No casual schmuck is saying, oh, I got an idea! It just didn't happen, and the public wasn't warned in advance like, I am warning you now

CHAPTER 39 / 46 Discussion

Twitter Search Algorithm and Shadow Banning Concerns

John C. Dvorak complains about changes to Twitter's search algorithm that make it difficult to find Adam Curry's profile. He notes that searching for "Curry" now prioritizes NBA player Stephen Curry, even though Dvorak and Adam Curry follow each other. The hosts discuss the possibility of "shadow banning" and the general decline in Twitter's usability for connected users.

twitter· search algorithm· stephen curry· adam curry· shadow banning

2:32:52 So you're warning in advance. You got plenty of time to figure it out. Very good other bonus from the no agenda show this is something you will actually, you will hear on Dvorak Horowitz unplugged but this was your little more concise now because you've had some time to think about it I like and I think that's very important I think it's really important yeah the pitch Yeah the pitches really tightened up tightened up the pitch I like your pitch man yeah thats really rocking Okay, now what else on the list we're supposed to talk about oh I have Let me see. Mmm. Have the list here It's a list that just grows we never get to everything when you ever get anything Bitch about Twitter did you bitch about Twitter? Oh yeah? Yeah, don't you business minor bitch? That's not a big bitches a minor bitch when I have to go retweet When I have to go re tweet

2:33:50 Because you say, oh go retweet because we're starting the show. I used to go over there and type in into the search for you because you never put me like at Dvorak's. You already scrolled off of my... I will make that a point of doing that from now on. That would probably help. But what happens is I type in Curry, so I can go to your thing real quick on the search. And it used to you'd always be at the top because it was smart and knew that we were connected. I follow you, you follow me. So this Twitter knows that. About two months ago, I type in Curry and Stephen Curry would come up to warrior and you weren't even on the list. I'm not verified him lame on a hole There's plenty of people down there that aren't verified but you didn't come up so I had this start typing Adam I actually now have to type Adam curry to get you listen being shadowed Adam Oh

2:34:44 If I type Adam, there's a whole bunch of people that I can't get anywhere. If I type Adam C., I still don't get to you. Adam Cu? Adam Curr? Adam C-U-R-R-Y! Yes boom. There you finally show up and I'm irked about this because it used to be like they were smart They used to figure out oh i'm looking for somebody they know Maybe you should just try gay porn see if I pop up then... I don't think so. I was irked. Yeah but there is lots of trouble with Twitter Lots of problems They changed some sort of search algorithm. We have not too long we've or certainly I have parsed the LGBT acronym into something much longer which you've now shortened to be all inclusive it should be LGBTQQIAAP, we kind of by consensus agreed is better to say LGBTQ plus

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GLAAD Style Guide and LGBTQQIAAP Acronym Expansion

The media advocacy organization GLAAD releases the 10th edition of its style guide, requesting that journalists use the acronym "LGBTQ" to include "Queer." The hosts discuss the historical reclamation of the word "queer" from a slur to a broad identity label. They review the full expanded acronym, which includes "Questioning, Intersex, Asexual, Allied, and Pansexual," questioning the logic of grouping these distinct identities into a single community.

glaad· lgbtq· queer· style guide· time magazine· terminology

2:35:42 and you do, you capitalize the P and connect it. So LGBT plus in LUS is lowercase Time Magazine reporting that media advocacy organization GLAAD, the glay, the gay, the glay, the glay and lesbian Alliance what is GLAAD I forget what it stands for gay and lesbians alliance against discrimination Thank you is releasing. Yeah, they're releasing their style guide 10th edition of the style guy who knew they had to get a style guide to report on this It's of course as in there the report from time says a language Bible for journalists covering these issues And which asks that all major media outlets now use LGBTQ

2:36:26 from now on. And not just LGBT shows you how progressive Donald Trump was, he was the first to add the Q. The Q of course they say stands for queer. Sarah Kate Ellis GLAAD's president and CEO says on one level it is just adding another letter but really its bringing a whole new definition to the way we describe ourselves its the start of a bigger shift. Oh yeah lets dive in. Queer Now, queer existed... I'm reading from the article. Queer existed as a slur for a long time an arrow slung at people to make them feel like freaks or deviants The oldest meaning going back to the 1500s is strange peculiar or questionable and the word will still ring pejorative in many older peoples ears Does it ring pejorative in your ear John? The word queer

2:37:16 I think sometimes, not always because i still see things that are queer you know something that's weird is happening it's queer but i don't use the word. I refuse to use it in my writing yeah yet around that was queer yeah we would say weird maybe That was weird. Yeah, that's what I'd say. Okay continuing yet around the time of the AIDS crisis groups really started to reclaim it i.e we're here we're queer get used to it and today young people are increasingly gravitating towards this label one with no precise definition related to sexuality or gender which is the point okay so there's really no explanation of what queer is it's just you belong to the group if you feel that way I guess

2:37:57 Okay, but can we stop here and do a primary preliminary analysis on something that comes to mind immediately? Before I get to the clip sure. Go to the old phrase that you use which is LBGT blah blah blah blah blah blah... Yes And let's go through these one by one because now they've all been replaced with queer. Okay, LGBTQQIAAP. Lesbian gay bisexual bicurious transgender queer questioning intersex asexual allied and pansexual. So now allied is queer? So if you're a lied you're queer yeah so I'm not queer and questioning if your questioning your queer mm-hmm I think this is terrible

CHAPTER 41 / 46 Discussion

Showtime's Shameless and Gender Identity Satire

A clip from the television show "Shameless" features a character being introduced to a group of people using highly specific gender and sexual identity labels, such as "triracial cisgendered girlfag." While Dvorak initially takes the scene seriously, Curry argues it is a "high comedy" mockery of modern identity politics. The segment leads to a joke about a "decoder app" and badges for people to display their complex pronouns and identities.

shameless· showtime· gender identity· pronouns· cisgender· satire

2:38:50 Not only that, but again the GLADs is saying that this is all one community on one group. And we know that's bullcrap. I witness a new television show on Showtime... let me bring up-I have a note that goes along with my producer who sent this to me. Hold on a second Yes. This was on today's episode of Shameless on Showtime, the plot revolves around a gay character who is regular on the show who is meeting friends of a friend of his who was a trans male I think that means female to male but I'm not sure trans male doesn't matter and so he's this is serious this is not a comedy show that I know of it's just serious It's a high comedy show

2:39:50 Okay, high comedy but I believe this to be real. You've seen it? Oh yeah, I watched the show not this episode. I find it tedious. Okay, well then you're gonna love the clip So here he is being introduced to these trans friends and uh... Well you can't just say hi i guess This is Ian this my crew from the LGBTQIA center Hey! How are ya? Are you going to introduce yourself or do I have to do it for you? I'm Bethany I am a triracial cisgendered girlfag I identify as pansexual and my pronoun is she

2:40:27 Okay. Hi, Emerson gender-fluid heteroromantic demisexual mutt and redhead My pronoun is Z. Hey I'm rabbit genderqueer tax attorney identify as Jennifer Aniston Kidding Be them burr DX Chinese Mexican a gender intersex AFAB my pronoun is they All right, it's okay if I ask you questions better than to assume you know the answers. What is intersex? When a person is born with what is typically perceived as both male and female sex organs. A-Tab? Assign female at birth, when your parents decide your gender without considering how you may identify in the future. Okay and what's the whole pronoun thing? When we talk about DX, we say ask them if they would like a coffee

2:41:25 But there's only one of him. Her, them... Fuck I have no idea what i'm doing You'll get it It's okay It's okay you'll get it Now I think the identify as Jennifer Aniston is a joke? I think the rest is pretty serious I think it's all high humor, they're mocking this. And i think you're wrong to think that is serious It just the way this show is Okay well I have not watched the show so... Yeah its a mockery, so their not serious believe me Well good because thats what I needed to hear But I think they do a better job of that sort of thing because, in a pure comedic sense the show Portlandia is a straight up comedy. but in some odd sense if they did that same bit in Portlandia they would be half serious about it.

2:42:17 If people who watch that show and Seamus would know kind of understand what I'm saying because they're kind of serious on Portlandia In a funny way, it's kind of politically correct even though they mock it openly But at the same time you wonder this did give me a business idea Yeah, how to decode yourself. I think it's a small giblet. Well no no you have a little app and that's how you decode yourself okay wait for it and you have a badge which is kind of like the ones they use at Defcon and you program your badge so hi my name's Adam cisgendered a-hole

CHAPTER 42 / 46 Discussion

Swedish Christmas Light Bans and Globalist Pushback

Several Swedish towns are reportedly canceling traditional Christmas light displays on public poles, officially for "security reasons" related to the weight of the lights. The hosts link this to the broader impact of the migrant crisis in Europe and the resulting cultural friction. They frame the 2016 election as a battle between "globalists" and "nationalists," with Brexit and Donald Trump representing a pushback against globalist agendas.

sweden· christmas lights· migrants· brexit· globalism· nationalism

2:42:56 I identify as Brad Pitt. I identified as an asshole, identifies an a-hole and it would flash whenever someone comes up. He's the maybe not yeah okay maybe not you're right now i'm just trying It said to do something out of control the way I see it. I have a clip too but you seem to have a couple of them so I'm going to lead into your Calais clips by starting off in the Euro lands with Sweden Unlike previous years, there will be no Christmas lights in many Swedish towns this Christmas. By the way I think... Oh, I don't know if i put it in the newsletter but there's a bunch of towns that are cancelling Christmas Of course! It's for security reasons Yeah The Swedish Transport Administration, the Trafikverket, will stop allowing municipalities to put up their Christmas lights on light poles that the authority manages

2:43:57 And in many small towns, it means the central streets actually do not get any Christmas lights at all. Woo! How's that migrant stuff working for you? And we had the cleanup of... The Swedes seem to put up with a lot of this stuff No no it's gonna end It's definitely going to end They're ended they're not gonna people will not stand I'm telling you, we'll not stand. We really live in like multiple universes... Firstly in the United States we have two universes and I am convinced that these are actually...I have not seen the OBOTs You know? The OBOT posts barely show up on my facebag feed anymore! I truly believe that something is split and ripped It will come back together They see completely different stuff And other people see different stuff Right, left, Democrat, Republican whatever it is But in general ever since the internet

2:44:49 It's the globalist versus the nationalists. Well, the globalists have been winning in general Yeah But but there's a look at the pushback Look at the push There is a little push back Brexit was a push back Yes brexit was and really then you know if for Trump's means brexit by the way And for Trump to become president that would be the ultimate brexit So we'll see how the universe has come back together. Well, I was doing a back and forth on Twitter with Joe Trippi and he kind of indicated the same thing to me that we don't see things even in the same dimension No We don't! And we totally don't...and i'm convinced at the end that somehow this is actually been created to some degree. I am not sure exactly but I can feel it so

CHAPTER 43 / 46 Discussion

Calais Jungle Camp Dismantling and Afghan Burning Tradition

French authorities complete the dismantling of the "Jungle" migrant camp in Calais, relocating over 6,000 people. Reports from RT show massive fires set by residents in protest, while a PBS report cites a French official claiming that burning one's home upon departure is an "Afghan tradition." The hosts find the "tradition" explanation highly suspicious, suggesting it may be a cover for the chaotic nature of the eviction.

calais· the jungle· france· afghanistan· rt· pbs

2:45:39 Let us now talk about stuff that is never discussed anymore in the United States. The migrants, and this of course was the jungle in Calais which you got two clips here I think? Yeah Which one? You're gonna start it off No go ahead, so it's all yours It's all yours Migrants are...oh okay Well the migrants have burnt down the camps And but I was on American media won't even talk about it because it's such a pain in the ass that these camps and the French came into kind of take them down and get these guys moved around to some other places around the country where they could lock him up a little bit or keep trap.

2:46:19 track of them and not have me in it. They're interfering with commerce when they're in the wrong spot, they got to get rid of them so they start moving out. So they decided to burn the place to the ground now this is the fire in Cali RT version of the report and RT was the only outlet that really loved to cover this Massive fires broke out in Calais' so-called jungle refugee camp on Tuesday night as residents torched tents in protest against the dismantling of the makeshift slum. The operation to evict the notorious camp and the French port town of Calais now entering its third day, officials say more than 4,000 people have already been relocated to various migrant centers all across the country. RT's Harry Fear still reports from Calais

2:47:06 Well, as you may be able to see behind me some of the fire trucks and rescue crews that attended to the scene eventually to deal with the massive fire. It's now been put out and the police also attended to this scene in order to secure it for the fire crews to move in. Well, you can see perhaps just over here to my right that there are a couple of migrants that had to evacuate the camp and the police forced them out. Others have been going back in, but suddenly the lack of speed and apparent lack of willingness to tackle some of this crisis in the camp is epitomized by the slow response tonight to the fire engulfing the structures. Of course... Yeah! What a fire it was

2:47:57 So there was a slow response and there was... Of course, let it burn. Well I think they should let it burn out but I'm wondering you know nobody really-I didn't see this reported on ABC. ABC had some interesting reporting going on but NBC CBS nobody's want to take it on Democracy Now definitely didn't cover it. PBS covered it and but they decided to cover it up with a bogus, what I thought was a bogus report. And yeah, I'm going to say that because I did some little research to find there's probably not more than couple hundred it sounds like if you start looking into it of these migrants which come from Etria Sudan Somalia, lot of Syrians. These are very very black migrants and there is maybe according at least one source a couple hundred Afghans

2:48:55 Now, so I would listen to this report somewhat baffled by it because as you just heard the RT reporters a bunch of tents on fire but they kind of played this completely. They rationalized it on PBS with a very strange analysis which I'm going back what is this? This sounds like bull crap But it's so rational and interesting, and culturally interesting even though I don't even know if the assertion is correct. But it was a fantastic... Look over here, nothing over there This is fire in Calais French officials have finished clearing the Calais migrant camp given the name The Jungle ahead of schedule More than 6,000 people were relocated to other sites Their departure left firefighters to fight fires set by some of the camp dwellers

2:49:46 The regional prefect said it is a custom among Afghan migrants. They have told us that it's a tradition which is very established, when you go you burn so we organized ourselves in advance. Firefighters are actually here 24 hours a day so there's no big risk of the fire spreading Really? Really now! That's a tradition? It's a tradition when you go you burn Well, we have and by the way according to her the firefighters are there all along so there's no delayed response like that was reported on RT. This sounds fishy. It sounds very fishy, but it was good that was a French spokesman one of the French government people that was saying that you when you go your burn which makes it sound like Jesus Afghans are what your lease is up so you burnt down the place? Hey yeah what about that office building I had to burn it down because I left

2:50:44 If I didn't, well you'd almost think that they said hey let's just torch these freaking people out of existence then we'll say that they did it themselves. It gets into something more along those lines. Yeah, well I had a Euronews report which although not as spectacular as that also was just very laid-back like oh everything's good with 10 000 people! 10 000 people! French authorities have finished clearing the shanty town known as the jungle outside Calais saying they were confident of dispersing the last of its inhabitants around France so they just like shoot them away hey Some tents and shelters were set on fire in a last gesture of defiance, but the operation was mostly peaceful. Oh now it's defiance? That is so weird! Completely different information The authorities said about 5,000 migrants had gone through a processing centre before being transferred away by bus

2:51:38 The regional prefect said, it's really today the end of the jungle. An important powerful moment a lot happened and incredible human experience has taken place within this camp all with its different communities but we're turning the page now and it's a positive page because these people are going to be welcomed in France and they're going to be able to start a new life Wow. A group of African women staged a protest saying they wanted to go to England to reach their families. The UK is allowing in a number of unaccompanied child migrants who are being processed separately." So the way I see it, is they torched it tore down whatever shoot everyone out and just go away! And everyone just said okay... and they're going through walking through the rest of France now

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French Police Protests and Muslim No-Go Zones

French police officers hold spontaneous protests in Paris over a lack of resources and the dangers of "no-go zones" where they are frequently attacked. The discussion extends to the existence of similar "enclaves" in the United States, such as in Texas and New York, where Islamic extremist groups reportedly conduct training. The hosts criticize the FBI for allowing these groups to operate under First Amendment protections despite reports of guerrilla warfare training.

france· police unions· no-go zones· fbi· islamic extremists· security

2:52:35 And the French police know it and they're not happy about it, and they're protesting it. Faced with the growing anger of French police, the government has met with unions in Paris in an effort to defuse tensions. Spontaneous protests by officers have sprung up over a lack of resources, an ever-increasing workload and a lack of up-to date equipment to protect them from attack. One policewoman at the protest said she was there to tell the government we're unhappy with the current situation, saying that police are suffering from a lack of consideration means and workforce. She added, We can't go on like this."

2:53:11 Following the meeting with the unions, the Interior Minister pledged 250 million euros would be set aside for new equipment as well a raft of measures to help protect officers. All of which would be presented to Parliament by the end of November. Now this is where did you get that report? Euro News Very soft. The reports I've seen and looked into this This is not spontaneous. Organized by the police unions and the cops are all bitching horribly, and their big main complaint is the no-go zones. For some reason the Western media generally speaking

2:53:55 will not talk about the no-go zones. They deny it, in fact they go oh no you can't go there! And one of the RT reports which talks about the no-go zones because they like to give us the needle...they had show of copies and he's with another backup guy and they get attacked. The car is attacked, a firebomb thrown in the car, the guy has to get out, they try to beat him up, he jumps into the other car and they take off I mean, and they have most of this on video. This is mostly in this one woman who was driving around in a black window car with black windows so she could film because they said if they see a journalist will do the same thing there would be him out of the car to steal still the cameras are worth good money and beat everybody up and these no go zones are in England

2:54:38 They're in huge, they're in northern Paris and there's other parts. And they talk about it having a separate government because there was a bunch of tribes that set up shop there gang leaders for all practical purposes. And this kind of thing is really a problem with Western civilization. Just on Alaric I searched for Muslim no-go zones in our archive and I came up with a report January 18th, 2015. I don't remember it? It's titled Muslim No-Go Zones in USA Do you remember this? Vaguely...I don't What goes on in these campuses a lot of people say hey there are Jewish camps in the country Christian camps in this company Country why can we have a Muslim camp because these are truly no go zones unlike the ones in Europe which I visited You could actually walk into those no-go zone so you can walk in with your cameras you can talk to people

2:55:30 all to leave these particular areas and they're particularly dangerous. So name some towns, name some cities, name some states where are you? Well we have them in Texas, Sweeney Texas We have them in York South Carolina We have them in Commerce Georgia We have them in Red House Virginia We have an upstate New York We have them in California We have him in Michigan They're scattered all around the United States. So right now when you call up an officer and say, hey wait a second you got an enclave here this is Islamic extremists being trained on our ground what is the law enforcement's reaction? FBI's reaction is that look they have a First Amendment and other American rights to operate these enclaves in the United States regardless of the type of weapon training guerrilla warfare training that's going on inside of them

2:56:26 I don't remember that. The guy's wrong about the no-go zones in Europe, that you can wander around with a camera and take pictures they're not putting up with that. I don't think he's been to one but this is yeah maybe vaguely remember we have a bunch of people just like setting up a club where they don't let the cops in. Odd Yeah, this is going on. This is I don't know how long it's gonna continue before somebody doesn't say hey what is this? Exactly! Hey stop that Don't know. Oh, I do know this Victoria Kagan noodle man Yes yes yes she had a trip scheduled yesterday to Cyprus and All of a sudden everything's gone very very quiet no more updates from state or anywhere She's hiding out in Cypress huh? I'm not sure what it means but she

2:57:26 Maybe pushing the president there to prepare for something or do something. Oh, that's Okay, I mean but it's odd that all of a sudden everything went quiet. I track her Yeah, I know you just great You got it and you know and all of a sudden hmm she just not there. I don't know very strange I got a couple. Yeah, we should end pretty soon. I got a couple of just loose ends before you do that. Do we need to talk at all? First of all, we were right. We said this DDoS was cheap Chinese crap turned out to be exactly that. Do we need to talk about any of this? I don't think so unless it finally gets shaken out to the point where I feel comfortable. OK, if you feel comfortable

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National Anthem Protests and D'Nessia Lawrence

The movement to protest the national anthem, sparked by Colin Kaepernick, continues at various sporting events. In Miami, singer D'Nessia Lawrence took a knee while performing the Star Spangled Banner to reveal a Black Lives Matter t-shirt. The hosts criticize the logic of protesting the anthem while being the one hired to perform it, calling the act "crazy" and "confused."

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2:56:26 I don't remember that. The guy's wrong about the no-go zones in Europe, that you can wander around with a camera and take pictures they're not putting up with that. I don't think he's been to one but this is yeah maybe vaguely remember we have a bunch of people just like setting up a club where they don't let the cops in. Odd Yeah, this is going on. This is I don't know how long it's gonna continue before somebody doesn't say hey what is this? Exactly! Hey stop that Don't know. Oh, I do know this Victoria Kagan noodle man Yes yes yes she had a trip scheduled yesterday to Cyprus and All of a sudden everything's gone very very quiet no more updates from state or anywhere She's hiding out in Cypress huh? I'm not sure what it means but she

2:57:26 Maybe pushing the president there to prepare for something or do something. Oh, that's Okay, I mean but it's odd that all of a sudden everything went quiet. I track her Yeah, I know you just great You got it and you know and all of a sudden hmm she just not there. I don't know very strange I got a couple. Yeah, we should end pretty soon. I got a couple of just loose ends before you do that. Do we need to talk at all? First of all, we were right. We said this DDoS was cheap Chinese crap turned out to be exactly that. Do we need to talk about any of this? I don't think so unless it finally gets shaken out to the point where I feel comfortable. OK, if you feel comfortable

2:58:13 Yeah, I feel comfortable talking about that stuff. Oh have you been watching the new Black Mirror series? No but Mimi has and she's fantastic! It's beyond... especially the first episode. Yeah i'm gonna watch it probably in the next week. And it's all about oversized socialization, future technologies that'll fuck us It's really great. At least I got the right idea. Okay, there was a couple... One was this and yet the visuals probably helps But, you know this is kind of a subtext movement that's going on in the United States where you protest the national anthem. I don't think it has gotten much legs but it started by Colin Kaepernick, the quarterback at the San Francisco 49ers and so the most extreme version of this was... You have to listen to this clip. This is black protest national anthem and just imagine what you're looking at.

2:59:09 Protests against racial oppression and police brutality continued during the playing of the national anthem at sports events around the country over the weekend. San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick appeared at a post-game press conference Sunday wearing a Black Panthers Party T-shirt, building on the movement he sparked At an NBA preseason game in Miami Friday, social worker D'Nessia Lawrence took a knee and unbuttoned her jacket to reveal a Black Lives Matter t-shirt as she performed the Star Spangled Banner. In a statement on Facebook, Lawrence wrote, quote, "'Right now we're seeing a war on black and brown bodies. We are being unjustly killed and overly criminalized.'" Unquote

2:59:49 So she's, wait a minute. She's singing the national anthem because she was invited to do so. So she takes a knee and sings it from her knees. This is better than ever in protests. Well of course if you want to protest this lady don't sing it I'm gonna give you a clip of the day for that. That's too good. That's just crazy! It is crazy, what an idiot but of course if your- remember they were protesting the well no... No i guess it's confused now my brain has gone like seriously?

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Self-Driving Beer Truck and Show Sign-Off

Anheuser-Busch completes the first commercial delivery using a self-driving truck, hauling Budweiser beer 120 miles across Colorado. John C. Dvorak questions the efficiency of the technology, noting that a human driver is still required to be on board and perform the actual delivery of the beer to the customer. The show concludes with a final celebration of the ninth anniversary and a look forward to the tenth year of broadcasting.

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3:00:30 Unbelievable. Sadly very believable, but yes it's crazy sadly my last clip was a shorty and it's just another one is gloom and doom but nobody's noticing oh everything's fancy that's great this is the ABC Short Report at the end of the show where they don't have give anything any time this is the beer truck self-driving beer truck and I have a question This caught our eye first of its kind to be run Anheuser-Busch says it's completed the world's first commercial delivery by a self driving truck. A tractor trailer hauling Budweiser beer more than 120 miles across Colorado, the company teamed up with self driving truck maker auto to make it happen they say if professional driver was on board the entire time but there you see it never had to get into the drivers seat. Okay your question sir? Have you ever seen a beer truck pull up to some like a bar or something ever seen a beer truck in the street yes I have

3:01:28 Doesn't a guy have to come out with his little cart and grab the beer and haul it into the bar? Yeah, and they slide the side of it up. Those beers... usually the beer trucks have the panels on the side Yeah. So what are they accomplishing? Well, the guy can do he can be a day trader while he's being driven by a day trainer while the truck drives him to the destination and jumps out and delivers you still have to have a guy delivering the beer so there's a guy they're already so you're telling me it's you got to pay that guy so you have to pay that guy plus the cost of a self-driving truck is seems like a jib

3:02:06 I don't see him saving money on this deal. John C. Dvorak's pet peeve of the day! That's right, only on the No Agenda Show ladies and gentlemen. It's just a logic of it all. It's Occam's razor right there for ya. Ah maybe it's all just automatic. Here slave here is your beer. Who knows? Robot banging into the side of the building. Alright, I'm good. Well John Nine years. I'm proud to be your partner in this yeah, it works out worked out who knew yeah go figure Off the ten to retire with grace right we start dignity here number 10 on Sunday So let's celebrate that good idea 10 Thank you all very much remember us for the Sunday show our first show in year number 10

3:02:57 You can find us at Dvorak.org slash NA and until then my friends, mas amigos, mon ami, mes amis coming to you from the crackpot condo here in the skyscraper downtown Austin in case you're looking for it on the map its in FEMA region 6 Until Sunday in the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where if you want to reference the beginning of this show it's still not raining! I am John C. Dvorak We shall return on Sunday with the best podcast in universe right here on NOAgenda Adios mofos! He came we saw he died! Flying over Afghanistan

3:03:55 Or maybe it was Pakistan I promised myself to aim myself at every woman, child and man That was on my list I don't care if i missed. I'm remote controlled, I do what I am told By someone at a computer Obama gave me a push More than Bush and I cost millions I was supposed to target terrorists But not so much civilians I don't know what to say Whoops some got in my drone again Naturally

3:04:37 A drone again, naturally. Because it's not happening! The Anniversary Show Thursday show will be the anniversary show. Thursday show will be the anniversary show How are we going to celebrate in New York? By doing a long donation segment I hope Yeah, me too The Anniversary Show The Anniversary Show The Anniversary Show Thursday show will be the anniversary show. Thursday show will be the anniversary show. The Anniversary Show Swag Thanks Obama adios mofo because it's not happening The best podcast in the universe! Hey man, hip hop. Dvorak dot org slash n-a