Knights of the No Agenda Armory

00:03 Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. Making you look, listen, and understand very clearly in all honesty now. It's Wednesday, April 8th, 2009. This is no agenda. Up past my school night bedtime in the Crackpot Command Center, burrowed in the southwest quadrant of Gitmo Nation East. I'm Adam Curry. And from the middle of nowhere, the Pacific Northwest, Gitmo Nation Northwest, I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. Hey, hey Did that work? Yeah, that worked out fine. It was quite nice Of course the people who are listening to the podcast miss the excellent information that you're up in the in the Washington region And your wife is walking around naked damn Okay, so there wasn't much more info than that. I'd listeners. I tried to get some info out, but he wouldn't tell me He wanted me to turn on the webcam. Mmm

01:02 You know what after after Leo's been bitching so much about you had getting the webcam That's what you should do. So just turn the webcam on just have Mimi standing there naked. Yeah, so Dick I actually have a Stick cam account And I don't use it much anymore, but when it first came out, because there's all these people using webcams and they're looking at each other and chatting and all the rest of it. And I had mine focused just 24-7 on a... Aquarium. The sock puppet. That one that they gave away for pets.com. Yeah.

01:41 And then I'd move it once in a while. Kind of like the puppet that was used in that Star Trek where they had the one evil guy and they used it and his head just kind of moved back and forth. But you see, at the end of the day, webcams, that whole development, it's really all about cybersex. Whether it's being paid for or not. That's the marketplace. Yeah, I wouldn't say that's not the case. So you have to wonder why people have all these cameras. You've come to my place. It's stacked. Really? Well of course, I mean in the command centers where I do MeVeo today, I've got webcams all over the place. Oh that's right, you have real cameras. Those aren't webcams. I can even do a webcam chat with a green screen I guess if I wanted to. Hmm, new marketing and money making possibilities crop up at every instance. So have you, you know, I was thinking about this the other day.

02:38 We wonder what kind of money we could get if we did weddings. So what does our show consist of? Hi everybody. Wait a minute. It's like, wait until we spark up. I'm always ready. All right, John. Okay. We can talk now. And we just sit there with two cups of tea and talk. I don't know, don't you think it's a money-making scheme? So let me, before we start talking about these topics, let me talk about a couple of... Well, first of all, let me just mention that we're, this is a different time for us. I'm leaving for a quick holiday tomorrow. John is up in Gitmo Northwest for... Pacific Northwest. Pacific Northwest for, I presume, for the Easter festivities.

03:24 Yeah. So it's Wednesday night here, it is 11.04 PM, and for you it's what? Looks like 3.04. 3.04, alright. I'm baked. Okay, now get on with your... You don't sound baked. Dude, it's 11.04. It's 4.20 somewhere. I think you still don't... I mean, I think you must just be baked all the time. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Just a little bit more now than normal. So what's in the news over there? You were going to mention something. I'm looking at what I'm going to mention. I think I'm going to push it off and mention a little later. But we have a new donor that is very generous, and I've decided to add a new twist to our whole scheme.

04:13 Okay, I believe that the two of us and I don't see any reason we can't do this and I've looked into this before by the way I've done some research and I think we should start to bestow knighthoods a Good one an honorary title. Yes anyone who gives a thousand dollars or more to the fund becomes a knight of the no agenda armory Yes, very nice. That's not a good see that this is what I wanted to talk to you about I'm already there, but I'm so there what not not the sales pitch because I knew that the Okay, right the it's the details okay in other words would it be the Knights of the no agenda armory would it be the or the order of the buzzkill in the crackpot or would it be what you know we need to give it a certain it has to have a cache my

05:02 Like the OBE, you know, the Order of the British Empire. Yes. And all the other, the Order of the Bath, they have a whole slew of different ones that they give away. Maybe we have a roundtable. We have Knights of the No Agenda Roundtable, perhaps? Nah, that sounds kind of... That's no good. I like what you just said earlier, though. What was it again? It was the... This is what happens. Don't know what I said nights of the No agenda nights of the no agenda armory there you go Yeah, nights of the no agenda armory that sounds like it like a knighthood kind of a thing Yeah, it sounds like you're a part of something special something that's changing the world in insignificant ways We'll probably be investigated, but I don't think we can handle it. Okay. I like that I think we should totally go for it. Yeah, so what I'm gonna do is that we only have two nights so far and

05:56 We will have a kind of a interim... We have to have some kind of ceremony and a certificate. I've got an interim certificate just as a holding place, but I've decided that what we really want to do is have a big really huge certificate that is more than a certificate but something actually designed by a professional that is essentially a work of art that would have the names of the knights put in with calligraphy by a professional. And then it would be something that would almost be impossible not to frame.

06:34 Right so the same thing yeah, of course of course or just piece and about the size of like I'm looking at a cardboard Piece right here. Can we perhaps? add a some flatware to that a set of knives a set of knives. I'm thinking of a t-shirt that says sir on it. Well we can do both, not mutually exclusive. I think some flatware with your diploma, with your knighthood title there. Yeah that's a good idea and we have a site too. Did you talk to those guys about making it pretty for us? No not yet. I'm gonna try to get to them probably tomorrow. Oh that's funny. I like it. So yeah I like this.

07:26 I like the set of knives or even dishes. No, no, let's just keep it simple. Let's keep it with flatware. It's always handy. I know a couple of good places in China that do custom. Well, okay, so we could combine it. You could have instead of a certificate you have a nice bone china plate with your knighthood on it. How's that? I like the certificate and the plate perhaps. And the flatware. The flatware, but we need to find, now we need to find a, if you want to do the flatware, we need to find a source. In other words, some place that would do this. I don't know who makes flatware anymore. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, China, yeah. Probably.

08:15 Okay, well we'll work on it. But anyway, I think this is going to be what we're going to do. Good idea. That's a good idea. So have we congratulated both our knights? And of course we have to bestow them with their honors later when we have all our shit together. Yeah, we'll have to bestow it later. I will mention that one knight that just joined uh... harry sellwood and he gave us a very odd amount of money which i wanted to uh... it because we've been getting a lot of really weird contributions i want nineteen dollars and thirty two cents on that that could all of course that the federal reserve act nineteen thirty two

08:53 all of the the yes curry in quadrant uh... for southwest london lot of six dollars and sixty-two bucks only seven bucks on who do you think in thirty two you know that i have to get it that that that can't get my paypal account this is what i was complaining about a minute ago and that's where his name is the easiest way to get the names that's why I'm kind of screwed here. But I did want to mention Paul Pepper, who we forgot to mention when we were doing our rundown of people who gave $50. So Paul Pepper, Martin's Berg, West Virginia. But our new knight is Harry Sellwood and his contribution was $1,332. Holy crap, that is definitely worth it. Now how much was it again? $1,332. $1,332.

09:42 I have the, I know the significance, do you? 1332. No, no I can't say as I do, no. What is it? Each of us get 666. Oh, fantastic! Oh, what a good one. Oh man, oh that's, how did you figure that one out? Uh, he actually told me. In an email explaining it. You know, I would have figured it out either. Alright, let's get into a little bit of news John. Because I know that you typically if you didn't do any work so I got a couple things. No, everything I brought up before the show and anyone who was listening in earlier would know that I have like a whole pile of stuff.

10:32 But you apparently have it too, so... Such a dick. The fact that you... you know... Pirates. Alright. Yeah, nah, screw the pirates. I got something better than pirates. Pirates. That's mainstream news. No, no, no. So this horrible earthquake in Italy. Yeah. Which was like 60 miles east of Rome. So... A couple weeks before this disaster, there was a scientist around La Quila, and he was convinced, because he was doing seismologic measurements, he was convinced that an earthquake was coming.

11:17 So he starts telling everybody, he starts going around the town with a megaphone strapped to his car saying, you know, you've got to evacuate, there's an earthquake coming and the mayor shut him down, you know, made him take all of his findings off the internet, told everybody, you know, there's nothing, actually told everybody... and completely shut him down for causing unnecessary alarm and no one would believe him. It's the old man who cried wolf. Yes, we actually blogged that on the Dvorak.org slash blog site with an addendum which I'll read to you. Oh, please do.

12:02 This was blogged by McCullough who's one of our editors. This story reminds me of Jim Berkland, the California geologist who predicted in the newspapers the 1989 quake in San Francisco one day prior to the event. He was suspended from his position and told not to make any more predictions. He resigned. Wow. So these guys are out there. Well of course, but it's amazing that they get shut down so easily. Yeah, what's the point? Does anybody ever apologize to these guys for being right? Gee, I doubt it. Well, the big story that everyone's talking about, which I'm just gonna, I'm pretty much convinced that this is disinformation.

12:52 this uh... pirates no the uh... the cyber spies penetrating the u.s. electrical greed i'm i'm convinced of the same thing it doesn't make it i think that thing is a fake uh... fake story well it's orange yeah it's it's not necessarily a fake story but i've been looking around you know cuz i'm the wall street journal reports on and there's all these quotes my world where these quotes coming from you know who who stood up and said hey hey i got some news over here you know we got some cyber spies uh... shutting down the grid I'm like, who did that? And apparently there's an organization responsible for the security of the grids is the NERC, the North American Electric Reliability Corporation. I love it. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, the North American

13:41 Electric Reliability Corporation. It's the NERCs. The NERCs are coming, man. And so this whole story stems from a letter they sent to the industry stakeholders. Basically, it's like, hey, send more stimulus money over here. That's what the entire thing is about. Yeah, you know, it says, well, yeah, you know, shit can happen, whatever. But it's not such an alarming note as, you know, the way it's being being published in headlines and it's it's You know, it's a total plant. It's like get ready bend over here comes the smart grid. Oh, we need it cyber security. Whoo

14:18 Yeah, no, it's definitely about the smart grid and it here's the thing that gets me if the if the grid that we have the dumb grid I guess is already Penetrated and it's it seems to me to be kind of a mechanical. Yeah, I mean isn't like switches and capacitors and and big coils, you know think It was a big switch Okay grids on It seems to me that doing the smart grid that they keep describing, it looks to me to be a perfect target for pranksters. Yeah, the smart grid would be exactly what you want. I agree. Imagine a virus getting out on the smart grid. Yeah, the whole thing would get shut down. Yeah. That's where it's headed. I'm seeing more and more news stories crop up on the news feeds from all the big computer companies that are just going crazy, you know, because they're trying to get in on this.

15:17 Well yeah, and this goes back to our conversation about, was it, were we talking about Symantec? You know, these are the guys that are doing the security for the Feds. They're doing our security too. I mean, if it's not working for the Feds. And by the way, how can, just disconnect that shit. Don't connect it to the internet. There's no need for it to be connected to the internet. When they made this grid, was it connected to the internet? No. So what are they getting into? It just doesn't seem, I don't want to trivialize it, but outside of human engineering, the actual technical lockdown doesn't seem like such a big deal. Yeah, no, I agree. Now back to the pirates. My wife wants me to talk about the pirates. This is the first American, I think this thing was a setup by the way.

16:08 First American flagship ever grabbed Navy was 320 miles away It's a mercy ship full of supplies and hospital supplies for you know bound for where where was it bound for Goes around the coast of Africa, right? So it's near Somalia. Is this where this happened again? Bring me in bring that naked bring that beautiful naked body over to the microphone Here tell me what the story's about you have to come closer. Hey Mimi Mimi Mimi Mimi how are you? I'm alive. Can you know well wait a minute Mimi hold on a second. What are you wearing? Are you really naked um? kind of Do you have your hair down under my clothes?

17:03 Why do you ruin it for me? Alright, what's up with the pirates? How can you be interested? You're such an intelligent woman, how can you be interested in this drivel? I'm just an avid newsreader. No, it's the first merchant, American flag merchant ship that's been captured by, or that... And now we care all of a sudden when it's other shitheads we don't care? Then it's like, oh good. But now that it's someone who's related to Amy Winehouse, we care? Well, I think the more important part of it is the ships that are in the open seas now all have a GPS system. Yes. And evidently these, the pirates after getting their $40 million last time or $20 million, whatever they got. They bought them one of those GPSs.

17:48 They can now find them. So what they're doing is they've got little flotillas and these guys are like 320 miles offshore. Who do you think these pirates are? What do you think they're doing this for? These people are desperate. They're desperate Somalis who have been... They're not desperate. They're living in a totally... They're desperate Somalis who have no future. Their seas have been fished empty by us and their lands have been completely raped. And they have no government. And they got cool ass gear. I mean what else you gonna do? I don't know. I think the merchant ships need to get armed, honestly. Because we don't have them armed yet. There's a bunch of different things they could do like wire up electric... How about we stop taking those people's livelihood away?

18:33 And do what? Teach them how to plant potatoes? They know how to plant potatoes, they know how to fish, except we fish it all away from them. That's what it is. And why don't we stop dumping toxic waste in their waters? Are we doing that? Hell yeah! Really? We get American news we don't get that part. We only get the American side of it well This will make you feel comfortable then So now you feel like you're on an American news show Hey, he's got a show to do here don't ever do that again, man

19:12 My wife has to go pick up our daughter. Too bad. Finally I had a conversation going. Yeah, well, yeah, it's fascinating. I'm sure everybody was just really geared up for that. Alright. She sounds lovely. I can't wait to meet her. Yeah. But you're really short with me tonight. What's wrong? No, no, nothing. Are you angry? Did I do something wrong? Did I say something wrong? No, no. I'm just wondering, looking for some good news here to talk about. Well, I got all kinds of news, but, you know, you go, we blogged that, I don't want to talk about that. All right, go. Obama, um, just, just to pull an old one out of the hat. A rabbit out of the hat. A rabbit out of the hat. I found this on Salon. I loved it. He met up with, uh,

19:58 Saudi King Abdullah during the G20 summit and there's video of their meeting and Obama bows to him Which it which is of course an international protocol mishap What was the what is the protocol? Well if you bow to someone else regardless that means you're subservient to them. Yeah, so he's not Okay But I mean not just like a little head nod but like all the way down, you know down to the guy's groin almost You know, let me just take a look at it. You see how far down I don't even think there's any audio Yeah, yeah Does everybody all worked up about this over there because I didn't even know this happened to you know anything about Obama bowing to the Saudi guy I think it's scandal. Yeah, I think it's I think it's worth mentioning At least by Obama what?

20:53 Hey, John. An Obama burger place got a cease and desist. Oh, please. Get her out of the room. She's supposed to have left by now. It's five minutes ago. Get her out of the room. This is horrible. Michelle hugged the Queen. We got that story last week. Get out of here. So, anyway. Well, that's a scandal. That's no good. You're not supposed to be doing that. He's supposed to be the top dog. We influenced a story about the bird flu mix-up with the viral vaccine. One of our listeners in the Netherlands told a buddy of his who writes for Science Magazine, which I think is a salon property somehow. No, no it's not. Who owns this?

21:42 Anyway, it's called the the title is company mum on details of flu virus mishap. So this here we go Yeah, I just you know people have criticized us for harping on the story. I'm I can't get enough of it. It freaks me out Not only that but the story keeps getting weirder and everybody says well, you know, it's just a accident How does an accident like this happen? No, no what they're actually saying is Nothing to see here Yeah, so if you want to read the... I think it's a Dutch guy actually who wrote it. It's in English. It'll be in the show notes at noagenda.mevio.com. But even in this article it says, you know, just a few press stories have emerged and that's about it. No one seems to be interested. Stock is through the roof though, that's for sure. Company's doing just beautifully. Not a problem. Yeah, you'd think that a company... This is one of those things where I talk to Andrew Horowitz about this every once in a while, but you don't...

22:43 What good is inside information? It's, you know, because people always, they always bust people for inside information, but it seems to me that you'd never know what's going to happen with inside information. So let's say, for example, we knew about this scandal about the virus. I would have thought the stock was going to go down. I would say, well shit, this is a good opportunity to sell the stock. Yeah, no, but everyone who's in on the game understands, it's like, oh these guys are getting away with it, buy, buy. Hi, we recommend Baxter International. Yeah, we think it's a growth stock, they've got a great pipeline of this bird flu vaccine. Yeah, we think, and they've got the contracts in place with the United Kingdom and with the US government, several billion dollars, it's right there in their annual report.

23:26 They're trying to plant the bird flu in the public domain. And the public accepts it, so there you go. That is a buy recommendation. There's just no two ways about it. In fact, if someone came on CNBC and just said that story, I don't think anyone would bat an eye. Maybe we could call Kramer, maybe he could do a story. Yeah. About Baxter. In the UK, Gitmo Nation East, everyone ages between 40 and 74. So this will include me and well, you're not in the UK so it doesn't matter anyway that you wouldn't be called. They'll be called into their practitioner for a fat test and subsequently subscribed weight management and exercise.

24:09 And what I love about this is, and so this is nationalized healthcare, and you will have to do it, if you don't then you can get your healthcare. Do they rubber stamp your pass? I mean, what do they do? How are they going to know? Do they get everybody listed and they come knocking at the door? Do you know that they invested, I think it's five billion pounds in computerizing the national healthcare system, which is exactly what is now taking place in the United, but everywhere really around Gitmo Nation, all governments are doing it now and it's been a fiasco obviously besides the fact that they're losing data left and right, the shit still doesn't work, but you know they do have the database and they do have ways to access it so absolutely. Okay so here's the deal. Wait, I'm gonna be right in the middle of the story, I'm gonna defend this whole idea.

24:59 It's going to save the government a ton of money if they can get people to be less fat. That's the reason they're doing it. That's the only possibility. Well, I think there's one other possibility, which is the story that came out, let me see if it was the same day. In yes, so and in the sense so in the telegraph yes, so I didn't see the paper version But maybe in the same newspaper wouldn't surprise me if it's on the same page so 859 a.m. April 7th this story came out which I just mentioned then at 1147 a.m. On April the 7th hyperactivity drug could help solve Britain's obesity crisis oh

25:39 Problem solution. There you go. And it turns out Ritalin is just perfect. Ritalin can help you lose weight. And it's like they set it up. It's like a one, two... So you have to agree with me. There's more than one reason that that could be taking place. Well, you know, you think they would, you know, I think that the media is remiss because the timing on these things is just a little too tight nowadays. Let's let the thing slide a little bit while people are like rationalizing while we're doing this and then we'll let them know about the other thing later. So the big story here

26:30 Excuse me. You're dying here. Yeah, bakage. The big story here is you of course we had a protester die during the G20. And have you seen the footage yet of this? No, we had I think somebody may have blogged and I haven't looked at it though I actually I would like you to you got the big pipe there anyway So I'd actually like you to take a look at it. So this Ian Poor guy in the link. Yes. I am Ian Tomlinson. I is the gentleman who died and so this is amateur footage which of course is, first of all it's great quality which is fantastic but it also has showed up all over the news

27:12 So what the cop said is, well, he fell down in the struggle and we couldn't get to him. Protestors were prohibiting us from getting medical attention to him. But the video of course shows something completely different. You see the guy literally walking with his hands in his pockets away from the police. They first they stick a dog on him, then they hit him in the back of the knees and then another cop rushes him from behind while he has his hands in his pockets. The guy falls forward, you can't quite see if he hits his head or not, but he was actually sitting up, no one's around him, he's talking to the police. He gets up, he walks away and a minute later he falls down dead, which I guess something burst in his head or whatever. It was a domino effect.

27:55 I mean, but look at that. It appears, and of course this is out of context, we don't even have audio, it appears this is unprovoked. But what's certainly not true is that even though the police reported that they could not get him medical attention because the protesters were prohibiting that medical attention to come to him, that's just not, it's a lie. No, there's hardly anybody around him. And there's a whole clear street right behind him and it looks like there's an ambulance there. Did you see that? Yes, right behind the cops. Right behind the police. There's an ambulance right there. Why don't you just call them over? Yeah. No, they didn't. And would you agree with me that that looked pretty fucking aggressive? Well, there he is again. Walking off. Watch how the cop rushes him. It's freaky.

28:42 So now what did the police report say? So the police report said, well, you know, yeah, he was a part of a struggle, but then other pro-states... What struggle? The guy's got his hands in his pocket walking away. Yeah, yeah. They're lying. The cop comes up behind him and blasts him. Yeah, they're lying. Like a football player would. Yeah, total rot. Like a quarterback sack. Only this quarterback had his hands in his pockets. But it looks like it was just like it just in time when he fell yeah, but he might have smacked his head Well, I mean whatever it was the domino effect that set something off and the guy dies I mean that just happened to the actress Richardson. You know could be a similar who knows his brain could be swelling You don't know what happened, but if the if the cops are gonna lie about this shit You know then you there you go. You can't trust them can't trust them your government does not love you pretty heavy, huh?

29:32 Yeah, that's pretty bad. I mean, I can't believe these guys. One of these days the police are going to have to realize that there are cameras everywhere and the walls have ears. I mean, well, this is why it's illegal to film the police. Was anybody fired? Did they fire these cops immediately for filing a false report? No, no, no, no. Now the turmoil has just burst. So this is only now just taking place. Oh, no, no, no. This will take a little while. But someone will have to account. Someone will be thrown under the bus, I'm sure. Yeah, probably some guy they wanted to get rid of it and they had nothing to do with it. Yeah, isn't it always that way? Or they'll find the guy who did the filming and arrest him. Yeah. Which is the thing that's going on, seems to be going on everywhere. All right, so what other light news do you have for us here? Oh, light news. Hold on a second. By the way, you know, I think people should, you know, especially the American audience, we should familiarize our audience with the various, you know, there's a lot of newspapers

30:32 in London and in England in general. And they all have personalities. And we bring them up, like you mentioned specifically, I think the Independent or the Telegraph, one of the two, just before about this story. And I think we should do a rundown of the various papers. And since you're seeing them all the time, you actually know their basic, they each have a mentality. Yes. And like American papers. They have an agenda. They have an agenda and they have a personality. And let's go over them for our audience right now. Beginning with the Times. Okay, well you, you, you, hopefully I can just add some color. I mean you're gonna have to be the real detail guy on this. Well the Times has always, traditionally has been the paper, kind of the paper of record. The most objective. The probably

31:29 They try to be as apolitical as possible. Oh, please. What are you talking about? They're not apolitical. They should be. They try to be. Let me just give you, you can tell me where I'm wrong. I mean, I'm not getting these papers on a daily basis. You're wrong. Next, next paper. Wrong. Well, then there's the Sunday Times, which is actually a different operation, but they're kind of connected. They're owned by the same guy. John, let me just cut to the chase. Let me go to the next one. They all suck. They all suck! Look, listen, let me be clear. No, here it is. My wife is a very typical news consumer. Okay? And we all know what that means. It's part of the reason I do this show. And she adores the Daily Mirror. And if you open the Daily Mirror, I guarantee you, you will not find a single topic we have just discussed until page 29.

32:29 Right, it's all real news. It's all real news. Sometimes I'll bring a lot, but anything that the Daily Express, no good. The Sun, no good. That's, although I love it because it's aliens and UFOs. There is only one newspaper, John, and that is the Financial Times. That is the only newspaper that is somewhat decent in providing actual fact. When I'm on the plane and given a choice of all these papers, I like to read either the independent Or the telegraph. Do they have those for free in tourist class? If you're flying to England or flying to Europe. That little Y stamp on your ticket there, do they give those out for free? I only get, I don't even get the Y, I get the whatever that other weird thing is, M. Don't you get A, A, A, A?

33:29 Some or no SSSS. That's it. That's when you get the four stars. That means security is gonna nab you Yeah, usually Oh speaking of which I do have something About we're not gonna go to the run down of the papers because you just think they all suck. Yeah, they all suck Well, I mean, I'm happy to listen down everybody that are all a little different. They all have personalities You got a lot of them from great columnists. I like I said, though. I like the independent the best I wonder if our audience cares I guess they don't because you sure don't. You just think that your sun rises and sets on the financial times. Yeah, it pretty much does. If you want some actual fact, yeah, honestly I'm not an op-ed reader guy. I'm not a columnist. I've never been. Maybe I'm too young. I've just never really been into that.

34:26 I read certain blogs, those are the columns that I'm interested in. Today, I'm even like certain people who are tweeting, I'd rather read than a newspaper. Okay, well, obviously you're not the only guy thinking that way. Right now the Boston Globe is going to be closed. Well, let's explore that for a second because this is kind of an interesting point. When I'm thinking newspaper, and of course the name says it, newspaper, I mean, okay, the news is going to be in here. But I have grown up, I think, even in my well-educated milieu, I think I've grown up not

35:09 Considering the calmness, you know, my calmness were on television. You know, I was watching That's where I got my insight in my commentary from and because it was more engaging more compelling and I would presume when you say you read the Independent or the telegraph then it's a lot of it is for the calmness and for the extra outside of the news or the analysis Yeah, and also the writing styles unique in those papers. I I think it's quite readable and interesting and it's all off the wall stuff that's kind of fun to read. One of those two papers by the way, and I can't remember which one, I'm not sure if it's the Telegraph or the Independent, I can't remember now, but one of those, they actually have an international version, like the Herald Tribune kind of thing, and I ran into it at a hotel in New York City, which I thought was interesting, it's kind of like

36:05 You know, I guess this hotel probably catered to British and they have these British papers there, but they were in America. They were printed here. Hmm. Yeah, different that was like, but that's a with, with localized content or just, no, it was mostly international content, very much like the Herald Tribune, you know, a lot of British stories. And then I realized I picked it up and was reading it. I was like every one of these stories I was looking at, I never heard of any of them. You know, it's like when we do the show, I mean, half the stuff, if you're gonna report the kind of the stuff that's worldwide, like the pirates, I don't know why you went into that. Mimi started it. But the rest of the stuff that's in these papers is like alien to me. I mean, I just look through them and I, you can't even find half of it on the web. They're just, you know, the stories are taking place, the stuff that's happening that you're completely oblivious to. Yeah, I know the feeling.

37:05 No, we're completely not oblivious. We're left out of the loop. We don't know about it unless there's some reason for us to know about it. We just we don't get you know, it's not as important I guess as the real news, which of course, we know what when we talk about the real news or any new listeners out there should realize that we're talking about Britney Spears. Yeah, I guess you have to make me go there. And now, back to real news. Alright Johnny boy, I got some real news for ya. This is a big one. Can I guess the celebrity? No, you can't, because it's not a celebrity, but it is news that you will see on the 6 o'clock news. Because as it turns out, chimpanzees trade precious scraps of meat for sex. There you go. That's right. This is how they get laid. It's a complete study.

38:03 It's kind of like taking somebody out, I guess. It's like, yeah, baby, here's some meat. And then they go back and they wait for a while and they can come over and do their thing. scraps of precious scraps of meat. This must be one of those counter stories that's planted by the meat industry because we've been getting nothing but news recently about how meat is causing global warming and everything in between. The meat will get you laid. I mean that is essentially the basic marketing message so they're just setting the tone here you know. It's like beer. You know when you look at a Budweiser commercial what do you see? You see guys getting laid or about to get laid or thinking they're gonna get laid and they will.

38:40 So that's how the meat industry must be looking at it. I think you're right. Good assertion. I like it. The TSA has been doing some interesting things. They've upgraded their full naked body scanner technology. Yes, I went through one of these recently. Well, so did you know that they have now updated, well there's a couple things going on here. So the main thing they've done is they've upgraded to millimeter wave technology, which according to the TSA is 10,000 times less radiation than a phone transmission.

39:15 But the real change here is that on their website they've changed the... actually they've removed a lot of pages. There's a good article, it's from Slate, and of course the link in the show notes. Now they're only going to have these scanners. So it used to be you could choose the old-fashioned metal detector if you wanted to, but now you will be obliged to go through the body scanner Which of course also has higher resolution, although they say, oh no no, we've, what was that word? It was a great word. Digitally... I gotta look up the word, crap. Oh, scattered. Digitally scattered the images in the sensitive body parts. And if you refuse to go through it, then you get a physical rubdown.

40:08 Yeah, well that's what the SFO had this. This is what I will tell the story again. So I go and by the way the last time which is today I went through S, or actually went through Oakland never mind. But they had one of these things, I think they had one of these things in Oakland but it doesn't work when it's turned off, you don't even go through it. But at SFO you go to the airport and they have a big sign. You either go through this thing or you get a full body, you know, they pat you down. Enhanced pat down. for your pleasure by the way. It's the only thrill I get. Hey baby, I don't want to go through. I want, can I have the tall guy touch me? Oh, can I? I'm going to try that. That's a good one. I'll try it. No, I'm going to go through twice. Can I have the, just the tall guy over there? Can you touch me? I was actually one of those guys. I went through, so I go through the machine and I ended up getting the pat down anyway.

41:01 Well, you look highly suspicious, you with all your meat in your bag. Turns out, and I talked to one of the guys about this, what it turns out is that they're testing these things and they want to see, they run you through it and then they find stuff on you like a comb, for example, I had. You had one, yeah. And then they want to make sure it's where it was and then they see if they can find it with the pat down. So the whole thing makes it twice as hard to take the pat down the heck with it. I mean, it's a bunch of bull. Well, but anyway, they've been changing their position and so it seems like this is this is the future we're gonna be living with this and I said anyway, but but here's the thing the guys pat me down is patting me down and I was just once microsecond away from asking if he could scratch You're such a pussy You wouldn't have asked it

41:50 Can you scratch a little harder? You know what? I hear they're not too keen on jokes like that. They might take it to that back room. Start threatening you. Very interesting video that surfaced of Newt Gingrich. And I wanted to share some of this audio with you because, you know, I'm a big fan of the so-called electromagnetic pulse weapons. Yeah, I know you believe that there's some electromagnetic pulse weapon. Well, I believe that there's electromagnetic pulse weapons. I believe that we have seen the results of those. I think there's some very credible evidence that it might have been used in 9-11. Remember, this is the stuff that keeps us from getting shot in the back. But I'm... Oh, by the way, I want to, when we talk, I want to do the pitch for people to contribute. I have a new angle I want to discuss, which will also keep us from getting shot in the back. Okay. All right, good.

42:51 Um, what, we open an account at Goldman Sachs? Is that your idea? No, no, I think what we just said, no, we just have a fee to get off the air. That's... What do you mean? Does it get out of Dodge fee? Apparently all I'm doing now is just thinking about marketing instead of... So it was like, what do we take? No, we have a baseline fee. It's just like, you want us off the air... Five million bucks and we're gone. No, ten. Ten, five each. Right. And we pay back everybody their money. Exactly. It's a Ponzi scheme. It's a fractal So for ten mil we're out we're done. We're through we're not doing the show anymore. Yeah Oh, that's guaranteed and you get a lordship at the same time With flatware and a night and an attractive picnic basket so um I scum but your lordships we gotta add that to them lordship Yeah, yeah, that was someone Twittered me actually as an idea in there. Oh

43:48 So, the electromagnetic pulse weapon, and this is going to be, if it hasn't already been used in crowd control, we're being conditioned to get used to it with the whole concept of tasers. You know, there's plenty of weaponry and we have tests being done, which we've discussed on this show, shooting lasers from planes, blowing up tanks on the ground. And the electromagnetic pulse weapon is interesting because it's very simple to make in its essence. It's a very simple technology and it's very similar to Well, it can basically either melt stuff or can be set to only melt the humans and not the buildings But listen to Newt Gingrich Gingrich. He was on Fox News Sunday this past Sunday. It's fascinating fascinating to listen to to this little as I'm

44:40 Talking up the hole here. Let's start with today's news. Mr. Gingrich before I have to add to that that of course, you know I totally believe that there's a space war going on right now So that is important for the setup for this story today's launch You said the North Koreans should not be allowed to fire a missile and that the u.s Quote should take whatever preemptive actions are necessary Are you saying that President Gingrich would have taken out that missile on the launch pad? Yes, I'm saying if you look at a new book by my co-author Bill fortune called one so he's plugging a book obviously Oh, yeah, which I haven't read and and and it's this this is this whole thing about you know North Korea is shooting off a missile and I'm very confused because Japan said oh if you shoot it then we're gonna blow it out of the sky and the states were the

45:26 The Pentagon is saying, oh well, nothing really deployed, it fell in the ocean. I mean, there's a lot of confusion. So I just chalk it up to more space wars because there is some shit going on right now. And you look at electromagnetic pulse capabilities. Oh, what did I just hear? Electromagnetic pulse capabilities. Go nuke! Which could take out one weapon, could take out a third of the electric generating capacity of the United States. And we're worried about some fucking hackers? I mean, please. We do not appreciate the scale of threat that is evolving on the planet and North Korea is a totally irresponsible dictatorship run by a person who is clearly out of touch with reality. And I think to say, you know, we're now going to have another meeting of the UN to have another paper resolution that has meaningless effect is very dangerous. I think both with Iran and with North Korea, you have countries which could decide

46:19 at any morning to try to actually use their weapons. So you're saying that President Gingrich would have taken out that... There are three or four techniques that could have been used from unconventional forces... Now listen very closely... ...to standoff capabilities to say we're not going to tolerate a North Korean missile launch period. I mean the world's either got to decide that North Korea is utterly dangerous. And again, I'd recommend look at electromagnetic pulse which changes every... He should have said Google it, but we understand what he's trying to do. Which we've known about since 1958. There you go. It changes every equation about how risky these weapons are. Governor Sanford, would you... So, there it is. We've known about it since 1958. Go ahead.

47:03 Well, I mean we know that when they attacked Iraq every time they've done it they've used this sort of weapon it's some sort of a pulse burst thing that they can take out radar stations with and things like that but it's not like... Dude, they can fry people, okay? They can fry people. Well you can fry people with a bomb too, you know. Or you could shoot them in the head with a bullet. It's probably a lot cheaper. Are you kidding me? It's a lot easier to fry people. You just point that thing in the general direction, flip the switch, hook it up to the frickin' smart grid, and you fry the fuckers.

47:41 You know, people don't understand how imbecilic warfare is. A young Dutch boy died in Afghanistan in Camp Holland, which by itself sounds like a big target. Camp Holland. Lob your bombs here everybody. 20 year old Marine. who was there, they were having lunch in Camp Holland and you know, someone lobbed an old Iranian junker over the fence and it blew up and like surprise, surprise, you didn't know that this is really primitive shit, we're just throwing lead at our boys and girls. Of course you can do anything. I mean, what's cheaper? I think having a nice big dish on the roof of a tank and flipping the switch, that's gonna be a lot easier just to fry a whole bunch of people in one go.

48:29 This yeah, okay, whatever I mean, I'm not gonna do to minimalize the or Marginalize the concept that they we don't have things like this there. You know, this is you know, it's What do you want me to say? What do you what is your point? My point is that... Oh, wait, your point is that you brought up the fact that there is electromagnetic stuff that we've got going that is so fantastic that it creates hurricanes and, you know, it had something to do with 9-11. What I'm not sure... You know, what I'm saying is people should be aware that this is going on and that what I heard Newt Gingrich... What was he in the government? What was his background?

49:12 He was a congressman. Wasn't he speaker of the house as well? No. Yeah, he was speaker of the house. Okay, blowhard, but he was in the inner circle. And here's this guy saying, so the reason people are afraid is because apparently this technology is now so easily available that any dipshit with half a rocket can take out a third of the country's electricity in one go. People should know that. Well, that's maybe that's why they're pushing for the smart grid. Oh, please. Yeah, that'll work. I'm not still not sure what the smart grid is. Why are we having a rush to the smart grid? It seems to be like kind of willy nilly. You know, everyone wants to do smart grid, smart grid. Well, it just came up as a meme recently. A year ago, we weren't talking about this. I don't recall.

50:12 I think it came from the climate change corner. Isn't that where it started? Yeah, we need the smart grid to help us because we're so stupid. We can't just write it down or tie a ribbon around our figure. No, we need a $100 billion smart grid to know when to turn off the washing machine. Yeah, smart grid, water, it's another one that keeps cropping up. Something's happening with water. There's another meme showing up. It's got something to do with something, but now there's all these initiatives, a lot of online stuff for finding drinkable water here and there. Really? Drill a well for every 10, yeah, this is a whole, in fact, there's something called the Twitter Fests are about water. Really? It's like the latest thing going on here. They have these things called the Twitter Fest.

51:09 I think it's what they're called. And so people like all tweet each other and then they start contributing money to the water fund. So every time you give a hundred bucks, you end up can drill ten holes for water and somewhere in Africa. And, which I, you know, there's nothing wrong with that. I'm not complaining about it. But the meme itself has got kind of interesting because it's like, how did this show up? You know, all of a sudden. I'm always, you know, these things just crop up. Maybe oftentimes it's somebody who's really got a good ID and it's been something that ignored. But, and then everybody jumps on it because it's really trendy.

51:50 And I'm not a big fan of trendy, you know, charities. It's like, what's happened to the good old classics? I mean, you know, like Guide Dogs for the Blind, for example. They need money. It's funny you say that because at Sainsbury's where from... I'll probably go there two or three times a week because the paper's out at the local place. And there's always someone different there collecting for something. And by the way, everyone always walks past. I never see anyone putting money in the bucket ever. Ever! and I always, I walk around London with big pockets full of change and I just decide anyone who asks me for money, I'll give you money. I don't care if you're homeless, if you're walking around. You've always been that way. I think people should know that in fact if you ever see Adam, hit him up. Hit him up, hit him up. Now in England people should know, Americans in particular, because we have you know in San Francisco you come out here you see all the other guys are all over the place. They love me.

51:09 I think it's what they're called. And so people like all tweet each other and then they start contributing money to the water fund. So every time you give a hundred bucks, you end up can drill ten holes for water and somewhere in Africa. And, which I, you know, there's nothing wrong with that. I'm not complaining about it. But the meme itself has got kind of interesting because it's like, how did this show up? You know, all of a sudden. I'm always, you know, these things just crop up. Maybe oftentimes it's somebody who's really got a good ID and it's been something that ignored. But, and then everybody jumps on it because it's really trendy.

51:50 And I'm not a big fan of trendy, you know, charities. It's like, what's happened to the good old classics? I mean, you know, like Guide Dogs for the Blind, for example. They need money. It's funny you say that because at Sainsbury's where from... I'll probably go there two or three times a week because the paper's out at the local place. And there's always someone different there collecting for something. And by the way, everyone always walks past. I never see anyone putting money in the bucket ever. Ever! and I always, I walk around London with big pockets full of change and I just decide anyone who asks me for money, I'll give you money. I don't care if you're homeless, if you're walking around. You've always been that way. I think people should know that in fact if you ever see Adam, hit him up. Hit him up, hit him up. Now in England people should know, Americans in particular, because we have you know in San Francisco you come out here you see all the other guys are all over the place. They love me.

52:47 They're like, hey Adam, I need to get home man and I need a burger. Right, here's a fire. But in England, I remember one time I think I gave a beggar something and the guy basically stopped a huge lorry and just kicked through a screeching halt until he could yell at me for giving the guy any money. There's some weirdness about that. Oh yeah, it's the whole class thing. Oh yeah, no, totally. And anyone who was begging on the street obviously isn't working. You know, isn't trying to make an honest living. Oh, dude.

53:24 They are very against handing out money here. But it's all a part of the class society that's still left over. And it's senseless because... Why would a truck driver be upset? Oh, because he's a working guy. Because he's a working guy and he's working hard. He's like, don't give any... This is the... It's so cultural and so embedded here. It's even hard to explain. People don't even question that here. But they would say, hey, are you crazy? Don't give that guy any money. It'll just make him more complacent. Seriously, but where it sounds like the guy was driving the truck George Bush You know, you know kind of a conservative idea. Well, it's funny because

54:07 There's something that Patricia's picked up on, you know, as we're getting to know the neighborhood. And we're not in Chelsea. We're in kind of an urban area, but we are in the nice part of the urban area. And it turns out this is known as the place where all the rich people live. I don't think Boats very well. You should literally be in the store and you're new in the neighborhood and should be chatting away like, where do you live? Oh, there and there. Oh, where all the rich people live. Because right next door to us almost is a, I think a council estate. But yeah, it's like, doesn't matter. I don't give a shit. No one. Yeah, everyone seems to get along fine. But I was just interested that little label we get here. Well, that's because they, you're obviously targeted when the revolution takes place. Yeah. All right. I'm ready. Come on, come on down. Okay. So anything else going on?

55:04 There's plenty of things going on. I want to hear something good. Something happening over in Europe. You know, I'm going to Amsterdam shortly. How are we going to do the show while I'm there? I had some one guy Twittered me that well, you know, maybe he has a studio I can use or something like that. I said, well, you can't just use you have any contacts there. I mean, people that have, you know, excuse me, do I have any contacts? Did I not hook you up at the hottest party on Queens day? Yeah, no, but I'm talking about context so I can do the no agenda. Can't you just do it from your hotel room? What's the problem? What? I'm sure I can somehow. I mean, I can get contacts for all kinds of stuff. I can get in all kinds of trouble, Johnny boy. Yeah, well it doesn't help the show. So the answer is no. Okay, fine. No, I mean the answer is we're just going to have to figure it out is the answer. Then you're going to be in San Francisco. So they're just going to flip our time thing. So I guess I'd probably do the show. It'd be interesting.

56:08 I find this already extremely difficult. You're in a foul mood or something's wrong or someone pissed you off. I'm not quite sure what happened. You think? Yeah. You think because I had to get up at 5 in the morning to catch a flight and then I got stuck in the Seattle airport and then I took a puddle jumper which was a rocky ride because there's a bunch of windstorms around here. And so I'm half asleep. Okay, I am in a foul, but I've been in a foul mood for a while. Is there something I can do to help? I mean is it... No, I can't think of anything. How's your sex life? Sex life is sucks as usual, but you know you get old wait a minute wait a minute is that what I have to look forward to is this I'm cranky old man It's not a good day today, but now Mimi's younger than you is she more like my age. She sounds it a Little bit she probably closer to you than yeah, well how old is she? I don't know I can't remember I don't remember people's ages I don't think it's important

57:07 Well, yeah, I agree. I mean, I'm my partner is older than I am. I'm just interested kind of like, you know, from research research perspective. Yeah. Well, you're not going to get a date with her. So forget it. How do you know? Well, for one thing, well, I just have, well, maybe I'm wrong. That's possible. I just had a visual. I'm sorry. British Telecom, you want some news from over here, so you know that Europe-wide... We got nothing over here. Well the filter here in the UK is on and of course there's a European directive that all the ISPs are now just going to start filtering our shit and

57:53 capturing our email addresses and our text messages and the phone calls you make. And the UK is already in full swing, it's been going since the beginning of the month. And BT, British Telecom, says that they are blocking out between 35 and 40,000 attempts to access child pornography sites every single day. Sure. And I read this I'm like well should we go right we try and go get one of those guys who's serving those pictures up? I mean, how about you try this. Hello, we should call them up and we should call up customer service and say okay could you type at the command line could you type TRACERT okay yeah you got that now go to that little number that was in the log file that that you trapped and why don't you trace route it and see where it goes to.

58:43 And then maybe we can get some of that investigative talent on it. If there's that much being served up, you've got to be able to catch one guy. You'd think. That's why these stories are bogus. It's just like, it's always for the children. We're doing it to protect, you know, it's just child porn predators. If you know the internet is not like, how many of these people that are, in fact they do bust a group every once in a while, you know are sophisticated enough to go around a million proxies or whatever you have to do to get, you know, to be completely hidden? None.

59:21 I mean the fact of the matter is the public is generally naive about almost everything and when they go on and on about all this 35,000 things going on a day and the public doesn't generally say well why don't you track one of them? You know just if that one is a dead end try another one. You got 35,000 people that you can track down with just following IP addresses and figure out who's with the account, you can just go right to the ISB and get their address. I mean, what is this? And of course it works both ways because they also know 35 to 40,000 requests that were made by their customers. Yeah, that's the point. That's what's so ridiculous. They're their customers, they have their phone numbers, they have their address. Send the police over if this is actually going on.

1:00:16 I don't know. Why don't they? I don't know. To be continued. I think it's bull. One of your colleagues over at Market Watch, David Widener? Yeah. He wrote an excellent column. Have you read it? No, I don't read everybody's columns. Screw that guy. You know, he's a dick anyway, but actually my wife's you know, I said I don't read that much because she's say well, you know, we're gonna get to Jack Kerry which my wife and my daughter they listen to me soon to be ex-wife as I take her away from you. Yeah. Yeah. So

1:00:55 So, they're always listening to books on tape. You have the Jack Kerouac book, The Other House, and I said, yeah, I do. Should I listen to it? He said, no. I realized I don't listen to books on tape and I don't read. I don't really, I don't read, I don't listen to books on tape. I do this show, I shoot this shit, you know, I don't do, uh, you know, I don't even write as much. Right, right, um, you know, that, you know, Maybe you need purpose in life, John. Maybe that's why you're, you're angry and cranking, you're not getting laid. I mean, look, I wouldn't want to screw you right now either. You know, you're just not very attractive with the way you're communicating. I know, I've got to snap out of it. Anyway, so your pal, your colleague, your main man, your homeboy, David Widener wrote this fantastic article, link in the show notes of course, Government Sachs is in Control. And the research is just astounding. But basically, subtitle, Lloyd Blankfein, that's the CEO of Goldman Sachs, must be the luckiest guy on Wall Street.

1:01:52 And he's traced through how, you know, the only bank of course that is doing fantastic is Goldman Sachs. And that $12.6 billion of the latest bailout to AIG went straight to Goldman Sachs with, you know, a hundred cents to the dollar, you know, no loss anything, you know. And then of course he draws the links all the way down beautifully to of course the Treasury Secretaries who all come from Goldman Sachs. And he ends up with, I love this line, a conspiracy theorist might think this run of fortune has something to do with the former Goldman executives having influential roles in the Treasury Department. Market risk regulator, smaller companies, Goldman will find a way around it. It just seems to have that kind of luck. It's a great article. And you can just see this Lloyd Blankfein. What a douche. Just look at his picture. You just want to bitch slap the guy.

1:02:51 Yeah, well, you know, he's got all the money. Check it out. There was a picture somewhere else and it was the CEO of Citibank, the CEO of Bank of America and CEO of Goldman Sachs going to the White House for that CEO conference with the president a week or so ago. And he's like smiling, laughing, you know, he's got falling around and you see the other guys are all like pissed off and looking angry. It's so blatantly obvious. Oh yeah, right this guy. Isn't he a... look at him, he's a dick. He's just a... he's a smiling bald guy. Yeah. He looks like a... he just looks like he's the cat that ate the canary. He does, doesn't he? From the No Agenda stream that people Twitter to constantly. And by the way, it was fun watching the trolls figure that out.

1:03:43 And they figured out that you could Twitter crazy stuff into it. I like this one. Are we getting crazy stuff now? Yeah, yeah, it was funny. It's hilarious. Because it plays it all in sequence, so it's like a thread now and people are yelling at each other. It's pretty cool. Do you have a clip for us? No, I don't have a clip. But one of the you know because I always listen to is like oh what people tweeting now and one tweet said You know one world center is going to be beautiful wonder what third world center will look like I Can't wait to see that one cute. Well. Let's get back to the real news. Oh well hold on a second then and now back to real news I've

1:04:25 I've got one, David Martz, helicopter pilot, says he's really, really sorry and thinks he has learned his lesson after the judge took away his license for allowing a Swedish porn star to perform fellatio on him while he was flying the helicopter. He struck a wire, you know, landed okay. He said he couldn't perform the emergency procedure because his pants were down around his ankles. And I gotta tell you, you know, if you need to enter autorotation, you definitely need both your feet working as well. Well, you'd think he'd be at a higher altitude for that kind of thing.

1:05:13 I'm not quite sure. I mean he's... Honestly, if someone said, while I'm flying a helicopter, you know, I'll blow you, I'd say, yeah, let me go to 10,000 feet. Hold on a second, baby. That's a pretty simple one. So I don't know where he found the wire while that was happening. Well, it was a blunder. Let this be a lesson. No blowjobs under 10,000 feet, damn it. Miley Cyrus says she's smarter than you think. Who is Miley Cyrus you ask? Miley Cyrus, you know, she's the hottest teen star there is, man. She's Billy Ray Cyrus' daughter. Hannah Montana. Yeah, Hannah Montana, that's it. I didn't know she was Billy Ray Cyrus' daughter. Yeah, oh yeah. Oh, well now it all makes sense. Now it's coming together, right? Achy breaky heart.

1:06:05 Lindsay Lohan snubbed by Nicole Richie. Damn that bitch. We were BFFs for sure, I can't believe it. It's like this is our news. This is when you go to the Newsbright rundown, this is the kind of crap you get. Yeah, and something about pirates. And the pirates. But it was interesting talking to Mimi about that because she's like, well this is the, and you said the same thing, well this is the first American vessel. Well who gives a crap? Like all the other people whose vessels were hijacked don't count? Don't count? They're not human beings? No, they're human beings but they're not Americans. And the first response is, I think we should arm those guys. We should get them more weapons to kill the pirates. Welcome to the United States.

1:06:51 I know that's what she's thinking. Mimi, how about we not pollute their waters after we've fished all the fish out and stolen their land? Oh, we do that? President Obama is going to attend the White House Seder, first time as an American president. Oh, that's interesting. That's real news. Kind of, it's like in between. It's real religious news, worthy of a mention. I guess. You know, he went and showed up, I guess he snuck over to Iraq. You know, he met with the troops and then took off, you know, without announcing that he's going to go there. I think this is how well we've done, what a great job we've done, that the President has to sneak in to the dead of night to go to visit the troops that we completely have obliterated and we still can't keep him safe.

1:07:45 Yeah, you're right. So he sneaks in at the dead of night and then sneaks out before anyone notices. But, you know, we should have figured it out that he was going to do this because he was over there. He was right in the area. He was in the area. I read somewhere that there was an attempt on his life that was foiled in Turkey. Was he in Turkey? Yeah, he was in Turkey. Oh yeah, this was this whole thing that He wasn't going to talk about, remember they have that whole, who killed the whoever's a hundred years ago that they're all messed up about in Turkey? Or the Armenians. The Armenians, right. And everyone was wondering if he was going to mention something about that, and of course he didn't. Yeah, everybody wants the Turks to apologize for something, you know, this 100 year old episode.

1:08:25 Armenians are still irked about it. It's literally a 200 year old problem, right? Right. It's crazy. But they have a long memory there in the Middle East. That's what the Middle East is the way it is. But it's not much different to me than the Dutch complaining about the bicycles that the Germans took from them back in World War II. Oh please, the Dutch don't complain about it. It's a joke. It's a joke. They still use it as a joke. Every time I go there people bitch they come right up to me. Are you German? No. Oh, has that actually happened to you? Someone said are you German? Are you German because I want my bicycle back. No, no, because we'd know if you were German because you'd be digging a hole in the beach and putting up your whole freaking encampment. That's how you recognize the Germans. Because they come up to the Dutch beaches and dig holes. Is that right? Yeah, they dig holes and they put windscreens up and they sit in their hole.

1:09:18 With their really yeah, that's that's the and that's where the whole thing comes from hey you follow my father to Luke the whole thing Oh, hey, I want my bike back Don't dig a hole here until you give me my bike back, dude I think the Dutch have an odd sense of humor. You think? Yeah. Somewhat. They do. Mass strandings of dolphins and whales could be caused because the animals have been rendered temporarily deaf by military sonar. I thought they were just put a stop to that. Well, the Hawaii Institute of Marine Biology is desperately trying to get it to stop. I guess it's not.

1:10:01 My understanding was that the military decided to stop doing that. Because apparently they got the latest sonar so powerful that it's like throwing all these animals, which is like blinding them essentially. You know, but nobody sees it that way. And they show up in the craziest places and they beach themselves. It's horrible. It's sad. Yeah, because it's too noisy down there, you know. Shut up kids! We have to get out of here! So they beached themselves. Ah, finally. Peace and quiet. Suspect in officer shooting was into conspiracy theories. Yep, that's big news. That got mentioned. Richard Poplovsky. In fact, a whole bunch of people sent me email about this story saying, hey, just like Adam. Just like Adam. No, because this guy's, yeah, he's kind of cute. He's 22. You know, they don't care about old meat. They don't care about old meat. It wasn't because he was cute.

1:11:00 So how did that happen? Did you get the whole crux of the story? You know, I kind of started reading it and then I got bored halfway through the first paragraph. Me too. I was like, oh, okay, whatever. Yeah, sure, whatever. Yeah, I guess so. I did dig up, and when I say I dug up, that's a big word. There's some great postings at the No Agenda drop dot-com site, even though there's all kinds of trolly stuff in there, the information is all still there, it's fantastic. And someone dropped in, and I'm just going to presume that this is authentic, it is a document sent from Congressman McFadden in 1934, two years after the Federal Reserve Act, to Congress, and he was a congressman.

1:11:53 and it's called an astounding exposure and read through this because you'll really enjoy it and again I'm presuming that this is authentic it sure does look authentic. Yeah, it's probably a good hoax then. Yeah. So what's it under now? It's under no agenda. Let's go see no agenda. What are you doing? I'm gonna go type it in look at it. Well, no, no, no, it's not in the show notes yet. I haven't posted the show, but I'll give you a link. Yes, I mean... See, the whole concept is I talk in the future so that when people hear this on the podcast, then they go and look for it. I thought it was already existing on Drop.io. Oh, now you'll never be able to find it through all the spam shit. No, I just sent you the link. So I'm going to read a small passage from this. Mr. Chairman, when the Fed, meaning the Federal Reserve Act of 1932, was passed, the people of these United States did not perceive that a world system was being set up here which would make the savings of the American school teacher available to a narcotic drug vendor in Acapulco.

1:12:48 They did not perceive that these United States was to be lowered to the position of a coolie country which has nothing but raw material and heart. That Russia was destined to supply the manpower and that this country was to supply the financial power to an international super state. And when you read through this, he completely shows how the Federal Reserve is not a government agency, how it's set up to essentially charge us interest on our own money. It's beautifully written. I'm gonna have to read this if I can manage to. Mr. Chairman, when the Fed was passed, the people of these United States did not perceive that a world system was being set up here which would make... John, I just read that. I just read that. I know, I'm reading it back.

1:13:34 I'm trying to figure out what he's getting at because it's under the section world enslavement planned. Yes, which is this is the blueprint is being as was unveiled two years after the Federal Reserve Act 1934 and here it is. It's right there. It's history. It's written. This is just some guy's interpretation of things. What is these quotes from? That's what I'm not getting. You notice this, what you read is quoted, but who is it? Is this the guy that came out and said this? Congressman McFadden? Yeah, it's in the document. Remarks in Congress. Reprinted by the Arizona Caucus Club. I need one of those too. We should start a caucus club. We should. It just sounds like a place to be. Sip a little brandy. Hey John, where are you going later?

1:14:30 The caucus club? No, man. Maybe we should have the caucus club. I think we're quite fine with our knighthood. With the armory? Yeah. I have written in my notes, which of course was one of your notes, which you didn't bring, Slum Gullion. Oh, damn it, I didn't bring the recipe. Did you find it? No, I said, what is it? You said, well, I'll tell you on the next show. So I just bring up Slum Gullion. I'm up here, I left the recipe behind. OK, here's the story about Slum Gullion. So, I've got a cookbook that's a 1977, I collect cookbooks, my wife does too actually, we have a lot of them. And one of the things I like to do is when I travel around, I'll stop in the local bookstores and especially in podunk towns and try to find those spiral bound, ring bound, you know, kind of locally produced cookbooks that are done by the JC's or some little club in town.

1:15:26 And they have a bunch of little recipes that everybody contributes their recipe and then they sell this cookbook as some sort of premium or something like that. We should probably do the same thing. Anyway, so I've got this one from the Dallas Quilters Guild. And I'm going through it. I read it at night before I go to sleep. And you wonder why you're not getting laid? I mean Johnny boy, come on man. We got work to do. I'm gonna have to get a really cheap-ass hooker on you in Amsterdam. So, uh, skinny blonde, probably good. So anyway, the, uh... Consider it done. I'm looking at the, uh, at this thing and I'm flipping through and there, I'm looking, my eyeballs kind of came out, slum gullion. Now, the reason I was kind of shocked by this recipe, which I'll read to you in next Thursday because I obviously don't have the book here unless I can find it. This is probably a version of it on the web.

1:16:25 My dad, when I was a kid, would constantly refer to a kind of a sloppy dish as slum gullion and I thought it was some sort of an idiomatic phrase meaning crappy food. It sounds like a nautical term. Well, the gullion part, you know, it might be. It would make some sense. But the slum is like, you know, slums. Yeah. That's the slums. And gullion just sounds like... it doesn't sound like anything appetizing. Like innards or something. Yeah, it's just like... so my dad would always make this reference to slum gullion. Oh, she can cook a slum gullion. And I always thought it was just like some phrase you said for, you know, generally referring to people who can't cook or whatever. I didn't think there was an actual dish

1:17:13 Yes, well it's it's mud. Mud is that what you would call it? Well I'm looking at slum gullion on the free dictionary dot-com. Yeah. And it says muddy a watery meat stew but then underneath it it says, oh nice, it says muddy deposit in a mining sluice. Oh, that's where the word... Oh, we can hear it. Here's how you pronounce it. Slum-go-gin. Slum-go-gin. Indeed. So, the dish is basically... Give me another fun word to look up. This is a great site. It's basically the dish is ground beef with some, you know,

1:17:59 Green beans and onions and and and can of tomatoes kind of mashed up and sucker What was that? Hold on? Cuck sucker. You know, we're trying to get this show on like an FM station or something It's a real word. It's in the free dictionary, doctor. Okay, I'm sorry. So we're never gonna get on the air. Although we do have our minions. We can have people, we can have board ops filter it out. It's like the show is too long to deal with that kind of thing. I mean we're talking an hour and a half show which we which was you know somebody

1:18:39 took it free from the from the feed by the way ran another little local radio station if you want to repeat this if you want to repeat the stream on your own streaming server if you want to put it on your low power FM transmitter if you want to put it on your AM or FM radio station we're fine whatever it's completely one in the morning on Sundays is fine yeah you can cut it down you can chop bits we do not care and when they when we have our site up then also put all the jingles on there will have a special jingle section and is a run of our guys once the jingles badly so we're gonna make sure you get some now on anyway in the end if the other thing is you this is essentially what we're doing is open source radio

1:19:22 We're creating a show that's open source in other words. Can I just say I hate the title and it's been overused and there's been too many failed projects called open source anything certainly open source radio. I mean this is wrong John. Okay. You bring it down to the level of news and information real news real information. Open source. No. So Well, I mean, what else, how else should you describe it? I mean, what other way of describing it? Besides, and what's wrong with open source? And by the way, talking about open source, I have this project, I'm gonna do it. We have a bottler up here, a really good one too, and they do only sodas and things, we sell them at the deli. Sodas and a variety of sodas that only use sugar. They don't use corn syrup or high fructose corn syrup particularly.

1:20:15 So I'm going to do, I just haven't, you know, this is another one of these projects, but I hope to have it done by the end of the year. Open source cola. There's a matter of fact, there is an open source recipe for Coca-Cola. It's available. You can go... Really? You can look it up. And there have been people contributing to this recipe because they say, now you need some blueberry juice. Or you do this, you need that. There's all these little tweaks, you know, to the Coca-Cola formula and it's open source. I like that idea, John. So I want to get into the beverage part. And how does it taste? Does it get really close? I haven't yet to try it. Open source cola.

1:20:57 I need to go to the, we need to get the formula and with a tweak of our own and take it over to the bottler and we're going to blend it up and see if we can get it, bottle it up and sell it as open source cola. So people, you know, why should, why are coders that are in the Linux game and doing all this, not drinking open source cola? Don't you think it's like a natural for them? It will actually add some extra caffeine. Yeah, it's very interesting because... Open source cola loaded with caffeine, boys. So first of all, you can use the word cola, I presume, right? Anyone can use that word. Yeah, yeah. It's a descriptive name. So, it's very interesting. What I would do is I would add something to it that would cover up the taste that it doesn't really taste like Coke or Pepsi, but then, you know, if you can't cover it up, turn it up. So, you make it like a ginger cola, you know, with extra caffeine or something like that.

1:21:46 But we need to warn everyone. I will make a special one for you. I'm thinking you find the original Coca-Cola formula that had cocaine in it, find out the exact amount of cocaine and have it on the label or someplace where people if they can have access to cocaine, when some people do,

1:22:31 they can add the exact amount that was in the original formulation of Coca-Cola into their open source Coca-Cola. Wow, what a great idea. And have the original beverage that created the whole market. I love it. Isn't that a good idea? Here's the marketing slogan, you ready? NO AGENDA OPEN SOURCE COLA GUARANTEED TO GET YOU AS HIGH AS CRACKPOT Yeah, that'll work. So, uh, you Twitter that into the stream? No man, the guy lives with me. He's a very short person. He's my gay computer developer. He sits in my Mac and we have a nice little relationship. So anyway, so that's a project. Another one of many. That's a good one.

1:23:17 another thing will never actually get started no I think this one might actually happen because you know I do something we need to pull you out of your funk I mean you've been off your ass have you not been yelling at me about stuff going on just in the past week I think it's a cycle Oh, it's a fractal, yeah, for sure. And talking about cycles, you know, it would be useful if we had a kind of a drop-off in donations that cycle. In other words, subscriptions. Right, well maybe if you prepared for the show we wouldn't have a drop-off in donations.

1:23:54 I don't think that's the problem. I think it's the way, I don't think we're emphasizing enough to people. And by the way, you go to Dvorak.org slash NA or the noagendalibrary.com and give us some help. I think we have to re-emphasize, because I was trying to figure out why we were getting more donations at one point than we didn't get many. Now we get big donations here and there. Those are nice. But we don't... and we mention everybody that does that. But the little, you know, the 1932s and some of that is getting fewer and far between. And the subscriptions in particular, which would be nice to have. You mean the subscription donations, yeah. The subscription donations, which people give money on a recurring basis.

1:24:35 And the reason that that's important is because we do, and I think this maybe is a sales pitch we keep stopping on. We need to do the show three times a week. Yeah, if we really want to be taken seriously as a real information outlet that matters, yeah, then we have to do at least three times a week, I agree. And it may not even be on the weekend, although the Sunday show is pretty, that's kind of sacred for a lot of people. Yeah, I like the Sunday show. Yeah, so do I I think it has a nice it's Sunday for one thing and you can see everyone's you know the Everyone can casually listen in this light. It's not the middle of the work. You're also much less rude on Sundays Really? Yes, you're mellow

1:25:23 That's possible. That's because I usually have a good meal on Saturday night, you know, and it's the weekend. And so why should I be... Now this is like the middle of the week. It's like, you know, 4.30 in the afternoon. I'm surly, I'm grumpy, I'm grouchy. I mean, this is what's going to happen. You're going to be worse than me, by the way. I can see that coming. But, uh, so you know, it's like a work day. No, no, I'll tell you why it's different. No, I'm going to be when I'm your age, John, I'm going to be very different. And I've already talked this through with my wife. I'm just going to have wall to wall babes around me. Totally just babes, strippers, pole dancers, hookers, lesbians, the whole deal. That's how I'm going out. She approves.

1:26:05 Howard Stern so no no no he did he was dumb he could have gotten all of that from his wife but he went into like oh and I got out of this hot model that's how stupid he left her that's that's the mistake hmm he'll find out well whatever I don't you know I haven't heard him for such a long time ever since he could you know guys it's crazy yeah how he just became Just non-relevant. He used to be a part of the news cycle, you know, if Howard Stern did something outrageous. But A, the stuff he's doing isn't outrageous anymore. and uh... it you don't think that that the senate is effective these deadly what do they pay him to honor million dollars and people care about that is just that some of us are not radio access the quality of the of the army no no i had no no because i was listening to him from day one satellite i haven't listened a long time as a guy who said the feed for me to take can receive the uh... uh... the satellite here

1:27:04 In in London no, I mean the show was just as funny But it just became less relevant because he wasn't a part of the news cycle as he often was he ran for mayor of New York City I mean these were the great days of the great stunts, you know And if he would he's dad's too old and jaded Yeah, that has something to do with the money. Otherwise, he might actually join in and get on this You know, the world is crazy bandwagon. No, it's just satellite radio is just it took him out of the news cycle It's good. That's why we're not important Yeah, but we have our at least we have our minions. Well, it's a start. I don't like the word minions if you don't mind It's not a good word. I don't like the word army. I don't like the word minions We need a new word Listeners. Yeah, exactly. Well, they're not just listeners because they participate their producers. They're all producers They're not well, I guess you could say that they are in a way our producers and like good producers They need to finance the project

1:28:06 Most producers do that, you're right. Okay, so we'll just call them the producers. And they actually do, they produce. I mean, besides our show. Yeah. Alright, producers is fine. Just call them consumers. I mean, just be honest about it. Consumers, yeah, but some of them are. That's what the president and all of our government calls them. I think they're producers. You are our producers. Okay, we can go, I can live with that. They probably are everything we crowdsource. I mean everything's changed. I mean I use crowdsourcing a lot now I and I don't like that either. It's not you know it's like it's like a production meeting. That's what it is

1:28:48 What, crowdsourcing? Yeah, for me. Oh man, I tried out the request TWAP. That's my Twitter application, the request TWAP today with real data. So I was still entering it but I just said, hey give me some requests and people were tweeting me requests like skinny puppy and shit. I never would have come up with that. I didn't play skinny puppy. And I think I hit 11 out of 12 automatically from tweet all the way through to being played with the request played in front of it. Shit's gonna be awesome. It's amazing. So where are you finding all this stuff? What's the program looking for? Are you going to Russia?

1:29:30 I have a list of a number of sources that it goes out and it, you know, search engines and nothing with peer-to-peer, which is where I'm sure I'd get a hundred percent hit rate. So this is really just, you know, looking at some Google stuff and some queries. And there's a couple other really good search engines that can help you find stuff. And so it just goes through it and, you know, it looks for a hit and then it gets a hit and it downloads it and it tags the request on the front, the red request and it uploads it and plays it. So I'm... one of... a friend of mine who comes on the... the Cranky Geek Show. Oh, that's what it is. You know, I was supposed to be doing... I didn't do Cranky Geeks today. This is my cranky day. You didn't get your crank out. Okay. That's what it's got to be. That's what it's got to be. Because we did an evergreen show. I know. It's another word you don't like. No, I don't like it. Just whip your crank out on me. I can handle it. Talking about...

1:30:27 Okay, so he has a apparently the Googlers they have a lot of very interesting little tricks that I'll pass a few of them on to you that or can let you find stuff that you're like what you're looking for there. The first one is forum colon. That's a very... that's not... that's a very... if you want to find something always add the word forum colon. What is that? What do you... what does it get you to find? Because, well, there's a lot of stuff that's being posted in forums. So if you normally on search results you're looking for a web page but if you're looking for something very specific, minute or mp3-ish, then you just add forum colon and then you do your search request. That is one way that I try for sure. I'll try that sometime.

1:31:18 Although you know I don't really listen to much stuff. I mean I do that interlude thing It's the only you know that interlude thing you shouldn't talk about it like that that is a highlight if you haven't heard it right now It's playing 9 p.m. Every night That's a Pacific Standard Time It's the baked edition the interlude three the baked I thought you'd get a kick. Are you kidding me, but but it was great, and you did your surfer Surfer Joe. Surfer Joe, I mean it was phenomenal. And you know what, Dvorak, I gotta tell you man, you know how to whip it up. I mean that show has a flow to it and then all of a sudden it's like a frenzy and then we're like some fucking German shit that's just tripping me out. And then you know, it's like, whoa, what's happening? And it was rocking, the whole, the show rocked out.

1:32:07 Big time, great show. Pace and flow, pace and flow. Beautiful mix of it. I mean, that's an art form that is gone. It is absolutely gone. And I'd love to have more people just show up on our stream and play some kick-ass music, you know, just from time to time. Just send me a link to an mp3 file. If it's not shit, I'll put it on. If the music is kind of in line with what we're playing, you're good to go. So anyway, I've decided what I want to do, ideally. And I think I can do it. These shows are about two hours long and they're solid music, except for when I come in and do some back announcing. And by the way, you know, it's not much different than programming. If you like this kind of programming, it's not that much different than doing like a mixtape for somebody, you know? Exactly. Here's my mixtape. The thing is though, with a mixtape,

1:32:56 There's usually love involved with a mixtape. There's usually some affection involved, necessarily. But it's harder to do a mixtape because you have an hour solid and you're not in there announcing. but when you're doing this kind of programming where you can have a pace and flow and then all of a sudden you realize you're not following this song with anything because there's nothing that's gonna follow it unless you're gonna just change direction. You gotta say something. So you come in and you're like, yeah, this is this and that and the other thing and then you can restart another series and so you can do, you only really have to do, you know, I could do eight in a row that have a flow to them but you know generally four or five, I mean you don't need to do more than that.

1:33:36 But what I've decided, I think I'm going to do 10 of these as the goal, and all 10 of them There will be not one song repeated. Right. In 20 hours. Oh yeah, and then, and then, you know, already I'm mixing them up because I've got three episodes because no one's ever heard all of them all the way through. And I've even listened to this last one, I listened to twice. I still liked it again the second time. Yeah, no, I find that the, it takes me a while, what I'm doing is I'm actually I have, I've effectively got the next one done except for the announcing. But what I like to do is I have them up and then when I'm kind of bored, you know, maybe I have to do some work and I don't want to, which is about 90% of my day, I bring up the playlist and I pop through them, one after the other to see, you know, check the pace and flow. And then, you know, and then I tweak. I say, you know, this song is not,

1:34:34 any good, you know, pull the song out and drop another one in that kind of fits better. It takes about, you know, I think it takes about a week really or at least three or four days of doing that before you have the thing solid. And which is why it is good. I listened to it myself. I made a couple of, I listened to it in the car. It sounds pretty nice. And this is exactly what the Armory donations are all about because it's real work involved. Devorah.org slash NA and you know the other thing that would you when you mentioned the fact and you know I used to listen all these DJs too and they were always really amazing because you'd have a you know they keep you listening and the idea when you do one of these one of these shows is to rivet the person to the to the to the stream to the point where they actually want to leave you want to see what's next even if you've heard it before

1:35:28 In fact, I was listening to the stream the other day and there's one of the songs on there. I guess I never listened to the end of it or something. I'm not absolutely sure why but I'm listening and said, this isn't mine. And then, oh. It was in your own show? Yeah. Oh, that's phenomenal. You know, there's a movie out which was on, I think Sky Movie Preview was showing it last night. It's called it's the the boat that rocked the airwaves or something like this. It's about it's a recreation of the 60s North Sea pirate radio ships. Oh cool. Yeah, and what's his name Hoffman? What's the actor's name? Yeah Hoffman Seymour Hoffman Philip. Yeah, he's in it.

1:36:09 Man, this looks so good, and it's so recognizable because when I was doing my pirate radio shit It's exactly what it is you created an atmosphere with all the other guys who are you know and gals and the whole idea was it? Sounds like we're a whole bunch of kooks We're all sitting there half of them smoking dope the other half is blowing each other and we're playing kick-ass music And that was the beauty that was the romance that of course clear channel took away from us because even it I Even at stations in larger markets, you know, you always talk about the night guy, the morning guy and you know, funny stuff. And it was like a club and you wanted to be a part of it and you wanted to be there. And that's what I'd like the NOAA Agenda Stream to become, only it's a little more virtual.

1:36:50 Yeah, and it's actually kind of interesting in a lot of different ways. I listen to it all the time and it's like, huh? And then you come on with your can thing. You're not there and It's just sound that's great and they have the voice comes on and then today's news or got this crazy voice And it's like it's just hilarious. I mean, it's the funniest thing and then sometimes the news is like the same story twice in a row Oh, yeah, there's a lot of that Beauty of it though or shit gets cut off, you know and And the scripts are breaking and it'll be interesting to see what happens while I'm gone. And if it all keeps... The music will continue, I'm not quite sure what'll break, but something will. Something will break. Yeah, and Sunday, I'd like to just try and plan on doing a show Sunday as usual. Okay. And I'll just do it from there. We rented a place that has broadband, so they tell me. We'll see. Yeah, and you'll be up there throughout the weekend?

1:37:43 Yep. Okay. I'll be here on Easter Sunday. Good. Hey, John, do me a favor. Say hello to that lovely wife of yours. I will when she returns. And take her out to dinner. Okay. We're having a feast here tonight, as a matter of fact. Yeah, but she needs some attention, Johnny boy. Yeah, well, I'll take her to dinner. Watch out, you know. Some dashing blonde guy might come along and take her away from you. Hmm. Coming to you from the Crackpot Command Center. Located in its covert location. In the Southwest quadrant of Gitmo Nation East, I'm Adam Curry. And he's the Dashing Blonde, by the way. I'm John C. Dvorak, the less than dashing blonde here in the Pacific Northwest Gitmo Nation, Bill Gatesville. We'll talk to you again on Sunday right here on No Agenda.