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00:00 Just stop there for a second. Is that not the definition of bigotry? Adam Curry, John C. DeVorah. And Sunday June 26th 2016 and time once again for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 837! This is no agenda Calling CQ field day as one Bravo Sierra tango x-ray and rolling QRP is broadcasting live from the drone star state in the woods to my region 6 in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where I am calling for a Cal exit Collects it collects. Yeah, you threw me off. It was good collects it

00:46 Oh, coming to you from the airstream of consciousness once again John. Yes! You're out in the woods and you sent... you tweeted a picture of your fabulous well-organized rig? Yes I did It looked like what they call a kludge. oh no that's that's the small batch studio That's uh..the podcast device. That's something else. Yeah, that's something else i'm working on No it's been fantastic Why you'll day field day, baby when all the ham radio operators go out into the field and try to make contacts? Being in that's what you were doing. That's a real reason you went out there Yeah, that's the real read also I needed to just get away just get away sure for a CQ fest yeah This is a nice one because this is the sh TF exercise Okay, no shit hits the fan

01:40 So the idea is you go out with minimal stuff, battery power and you try to make as many contacts as possible. I really like the basics so i'm just 5 watts...5 watts and I had all these different antennas to try out portable antennas. Magnetic loop, I've got an Enfed ZEPP And then of course the one that always works Is 63 feet of wire hung in the tree It's unbelievable I know you're impressed. I know it so you wait how many feet? 63 feet on the antenna side and another about 30 feet 30 feet as the Is this tuned No, it's cut to a certain length And then you have a tuner in this rig that I have and then it'll tune it'll correct the impedance

02:34 Okay, and it's it's fantastic. I love HF You have no idea how to work one of the work but sometimes it just works well. It's like these antennas That they've come out with that I have an antenna on my roof for a To pick up two VHF signals for HDTV yeah actually most of our new HF band except for one yeah and So it's on the roof, it's huge. And it gets everything Yeah but that's all line of sight Yeah thats all line of sight so I have a... there is these little freaky little flat things

03:20 That are like I don't know if there's a it fits What the technology is inside, but it's uh there was an antenna in there But it's just the cheesiest little 10 buck piece of crap. Yeah flat yeah you got piece of plastic for those frequencies You don't need much very small very small, but I have the metal ones I had effect I had a in-house before I put stuff on the roof. I had the antenna in the house and The old-fashioned one and these are called a lot of these are fractal antennas It's probably a quad array or something of that sort in the hot the old one But this little plastic thing which is ten bucks. It's a fractal antenna it's very small, and it's flat and its plastic and I guess there's some wire inside like

04:08 Maybe a lot who knows it gets better reception than anything that's going through five walls Yeah, I know the craziest antennas work my magnetic loop antenna You know which it's just a small loop you sit on the chair and you tune it with your right hand while you're Doing something else with your left And it can work very well, but the conditions weren't so good. So I just flung the wire up there and even this morning I got up at 630, Florida, Virginia New York, New Jersey... It was a lot of fun And thank you so much for getting me into this fabulous hobby, John C. Dvorak." I'm sorry! No no not at all Not at all i'm very happy it makes me feel... Well you've gone further than anyone else that i've turned on to It makes me feel very good You like it? Oh you're a tinkerer Yeah yeah I am

05:02 Alright, so let's get started. Yes good idea I will point out one thing something could happen during this broadcast Of all the gear I had then I had my checklist somehow the clamp for the mic boom didn't make it Didn't make it intact or you just forgot to pack it? It didn't get packed. At least I have not been able to find it so this morning after the show yeah, but no So I have the boom But you can't know how are you gonna make the boom in the mic work so I had a tripod and a gaffer tape And if it falls down you'll know

05:40 I'm sure we will. I think we should start off with since we're gonna be We pre-announced the show's going to be mostly about the Brexit Yeah, and I want to start off with the clip official vote so we can get off to the do a good start As chief counting officer for the referendum on the UK's membership of the European Union held on the 23rd of June 2016 I hereby give notice that I have certified the following The total number of ballot papers counted was 33,577,342. The total number of votes cast in favour of Remain was 16,141,241

06:29 The total number of votes cast in favour of leave was 17,410,742. 3333 love it nothing like the magic number and the magic numbers I want to make note that that clip was from sky From England this same exact clip was played on CNN, but they cut off the cheering Well CNN had a bone to pick let me slip in Christiana on import

07:18 This might get us started. Quickie? Fortunate thing, Anderson, and this is where it gets really tricky and really ugly a lot of these leave movements are led by the hard right very very xenophobic anti-immigrant very populist nationalist white identity politics they are the leaders who are That was quite a sentence she rolled out there Like just horrible horrible people who did this horrible people You know the funny thing is that was a theme on most of these shows because they're run by the elites yes, and I not to go into this backwards

07:59 But as I think about it, because I have some theses. One of them is that...I believe that the European Union IS World War III In fact, it was designed to be a slow-motion version of World War III and the Germans were going to take over the place. And that was the whole scheme. The Brits have finally come to grips with it realizing this was going on with these crazy... I think there's a good variety of reasons people voted for example over half of the Sikhs in the country voted for Brexit

08:40 In fact, you find any Nigerians that came out of the British colonies voted for Brexit. They do not give you a very good ethnic breakdown on the way the vote went. They did... The whole thing was ageism—young versus old. They don't talk anything about people who are uneducated You said, yeah no. Uneducated? Right it was as though there in other words I guess Farage and Boris Johnson and the 40 percent of the Tories are all uneducated i don't know what this... Yeah it was uneducated stupid! It was the idea that the stupid people voted to leave. That's-I think that is the best demarcation is smart people said stay, stupid people said leave. That's pretty much all I heard

09:27 Yeah, I heard that a lot. And I was listening to... because I have my regular channels here which is part of the point but i was listening to BBC World Service Radio pretty much all the time so I got a really good feel for the pulse there according to The Beeb I, The Beeb would have one approach. I was listening to LBC and a couple of other things Sky and also...I found that on American channels during the moments that this was going on I witnessed as it changed because it started off with their

10:03 Oh, they lost. We're not going to leave in 52-48 was the thing and they said that and that's when Farage came out and said oh it was too bad but we lost. And then as the votes started actually coming in more than nothing uh... it became very apparent that it was going to be the other way and it was it was actually fifty two forty eight the other way sky news had some professor on who does nothing but these sorts of analysis and he called it way before anybody else he says unless In fact, this guy came on and he called 5248 very early and then it finally came to be that. And I thought Sky had absolutely the best coverage of the whole thing and it would follow that in the United States, the best coverage turned out to be on Fox Business. Yeah with... What's the guy's name? Varney is his name, I think? But Varney was one of them. He came later.

10:56 In fact, I have a couple of clips. He's the British guy on Fox Business who just seems...I don't know maybe it was me but he just seems kind of like a dummy with a great accent. Yeah, he had some member of European Parliament on and this was just before i was leaving so I didn't get a clip of it And the guy was kind of timid and blah, blah, blah. But Varney was just going wait a minute are you the guy who's always yelling and screaming? How come you're not doing that on my show?! Come on! The producer said that you would be really excitable... and it was just... That would not happen. That wouldn't have been the way I bought ya that guy. Stuart Varney. Stuart Varney. Thanks guys. Stuart Varney.

11:34 Let's play this. This is one of the best ones here off of Fox and this has got a bunch of interesting insights that just kind of trigger a lot of good thinking. This is the best bitch session, Fox Tea Kettle. I think that this is a rebuke to President Obama. Liz, Liz Peake, is it a plus for Donald Trump? Actually going back to the Obama thing when he went to England and made those comments and sort of weighed in what most people really didn't think that was appropriate for him to be encouraging the English to vote in the way... to stay in the EU

12:13 Interestingly, the polling shifted right then after his comments to remain. I mean to stay—exit, excuse me. So whatever impact he had was exactly the opposite of what he had set out to do and maybe The English also thought it was a bit overreaching of President Obama to tell them what they should be doing as far as Donald Trump is concerned look He's a disruptor You know anti-establishment populist character who is now uh... being derided by every establishment elite in the country. Who is this speaking John? This is a woman from the Financial Times, Liz something or other Good good and but you think she's a millennial I think

12:53 Sounds like it. She might be, if she's not she is on the cusp. Peters point I think there is an analogy here for absolutely for sure. Well there's a parallel isn't? Totally and if Donald Trump were smart going forward in the campaign he would talk about bureaucracy and taking power back to people local authorities states rights Wow does she watch anything that he says It's right issues like that. Apparently not my goodness because Americans hate the federal government I'm sorry, that's an overstatement But the fact is they do feel like our faceless bureaucrats in Washington Have you serped a great deal of the power that their local authorities traditionally and typically have had? Yeah The suffocating pillow of regulations is what people don't like and in the years European zone I mean chill they had rules like children under eight couldn't blow up balloons They had rules on the power

13:45 of vacuum cleaners, the rules on recycling tea bags. That's exactly right! Actually hyper-regulation made people crazy I think in England and rightly so and the thing that they did that was over the top and made the difference they came out and banned electric teakettles every English family has. They did? Yes yes! Is she actually claiming that the EU regulations on electric teakettles really influenced the British in this Well, if you listen to enough of the British bitching and moaning about some of these regulations... Yes, I think that she has a point to appoint. Now this is bullshit by the way The big tea kettle thing the teakettle thing turned out to be the EU Was about to regulate tea kettles so you couldn't really buy one of these electric e-kettles they have them all over England Yeah And there you know their only way to boil it's the best way to boil water So he makes some quick tea with a bag and just pretty much create short circuit with electricity in the water

14:48 Crudely put. Yeah, it got what happened was a memo got out that said that they were going to see I think she's got this wrong and I could be wrong too because is hard to dig up a lot of these regulations the EU kept pounding into England but they seem to be directed at the British almost again him to quit But they got out saying that they were going to regulate tea kettles and toasters. Specifically the British style of toast like a dual lit, which is electricity hog because Because there's something that some dude global warming so they're gonna make these things illegal, but then they pulled back on the Sorry what my elbow? They pull back you hit the right button Yeah They pulled back at the last minute because they were afraid it would affect a brexit vote But that memo pulling back got out. Hmm

15:44 And so it was as if we don't vote Brexit, we're gonna take our teapots away. Let's listen to the rest of this. It was a minor thing but there was a lot of... If you listened to Skye Well I'd like to listen to the rest of her Yeah okay. This is a new rule that has been on the shelf for months. It's all the small appliances, you know and energy efficiency of climate issue right? So they ban toasters of the kind that the English use and the tea kettles people went crazy There's a powerful lesson here And that was if you look at the original formation of the EU

16:23 It was called the EEC in the common market. it was a tranquilizer on the game of thrones that Europe had been and it really was a commercial entity. It was a free trade zone! Exactly, and then it morphed. It evolved over time and became sort of a wolf-in-sheep's clothing. It was a surreptitious political angle and politics got more to the forefront And as that happened something was going to break It became a triumph of micro-regulation and micromanagement. And lobbyists plying the hallways of the European Commission, because let's face it... Have we seen an Amazon? Have we seen Google? Have we seen Microsoft come out of EU? No! Because they're all about harmonization. What she is talking about there is something that we discussed which I ran into in some research for today show was The Council Of Europe Which has a great EU official sounding name but The Council Of Europe Is not part

17:16 European Union governance. It's a lobbying group and that everybody is in that, and those guys suggest and recommend to the Commission who by secret ballot create or propose laws." And then I learned so much about the EU which I actually didn't exactly know...and one thing you had asked previously I stumbled across-the yellow card? Remember we were joking about it did they make it just like soccer? Yeah! They do They have a red card too? Yeah, so you... Well yes. So you have the orange card as well. You have the Council of Europe and they're the lobbying group and they'll lobby the commission who are unelected at the end. It's a small group and they have secret votes proposing laws if the laws seem to breach sovereignty

18:08 then a country can issue a yellow card. If there's enough yellow cards, it becomes an orange card. The orange card tells the commission that they have to revisit. Not change, not rejected but they have to revisit and then there is a red card but that doesn't happen very often because quite honestly it's political suicide so it's a very strange way of governing and of course you know... It was non-democratic it's a new form of government it's a new world order It's new world orders. Oh, I think it was all a practice run. I mean, they'd hope it would go better than this with having these guys walk out one of the big ones and leave but it was largely botched

18:59 And I think it's you know, I don't know if they're gonna recover most people think it's the beginning of the end. I mean, I'm not absolutely convinced to that but Before we play any more clips, I'd like to state that although just before Just before the vote We both were pretty convinced that it was not going to happen for a number of reasons, including the murder. Good reasons. Yeah, the murder of Joe Cox we had... The bookies by the way, I don't think they lost any money. I mean, the odds just show they don't lose money. Right? Exactly. By the way, the bets come in are predictive. Yeah well they weren't and about midnight West Coast time the numbers switched over really quickly to like 95% chance of them leaving The bookies because the best were starting to pour in As those numbers started to change I'm sure that once that guy from Sky News said something

19:58 It just switched over and the bookies pulled the plug on the Olads instantly. And what we had always said is, should they get the vote it will not happen because there will be a do-over this is the culture of the EU We saw with the Lisbon Treaty Ireland didn't give the right result Do-over The Netherlands and France didn't give the right result Don't worry about it! We'll just fix that in our chambers and parliaments and then of course it was all good to go And now it looks like, well actually very interesting. Hold on a second I have...I wanted to have a couple of clips here that this is kind of like the White House

20:45 you know, petition. We can create a create a petition and people can sign up for it so now we're up to two and a half or three million signatures but that's the point these are not signatures this is the website it's a website where somebody clicks a box and says yeah I want another vote this is no good but as being described by every news organization including the BBC as signatures These are not signatures. This is not, you know... You can't get that many signatures that quickly? No of course not. It's not possible physically But this referendum was not binding they can do whatever they want and it looks like there's a big push now for a do-over before we go there this is Catherine Rampel who writes for The Washington Post just to give you an idea so we already heard The Financial Times lady thank you

21:36 Here's the Washington Post. She is quite young, but I'm not blaming everything on millennials but we know that the younger generation voted for stay and the older generation voted for leave which in my mind means we should raise the voting age to 40 because you know that'll be much safer for everybody. I want to mention something about that because when they were showing the kids protesting there...and we have to discuss this sometime during this show The kids were holding up signs, protest signs saying all kinds of nasty stuff. But a couple of them and I think more than a few said, I am not British! I'm European! Yeah... I thought that was the most interesting thing in the night. Yes and we also received several notes from producers who

22:24 who are unhappy about Brexit. And one of the main arguments is, I don't have... now i don't have the right to go what's being described as freedom of movement but what I'm hearing everyone say is well now I can move to France and work there for a year yeah you can but that's if you if it's the most important thing in being EU was that you can leave England? What do you-what is your point?! That's what I get everyone. Oh, no! I can't leave!" Yeah you can... No there were idiots and i got a lot of those notes same notes and it was always oh now I can't leave what do you think? You can leave you can always leave and you go leave now there's nothing that changed for at least a year or two yeah so just go leave get out of there if you hate it that much but it seems everybody who's pissed off about is the fact that they can't work outside of England

23:13 Or the UK. That just doesn't make sense, anyway... This I thought was very interesting this is all the memes are thrown in here with this woman How confident are you based on what you wrote that Americans will vote based on their knowledge and not their anger? Sadly i am rather pessimistic If you look at the kinds of reasons why Americans cite their attraction to Donald Trump so far, it's mostly about the fact that he gives voice to their anger—to their feelings of being left behind by globalization, by other forces within the economy, by economic stagnation. It's not necessarily his policy positions per se that are attracting voters to his message. It's more the fact that he is sort of a way

24:02 of saying, you know, damn you establishment. We hate you elitists. You have left us in a terrible position and we want to shake things up." Now I also want to get something else you wrote in your column. You said at least some Brits who voted to leave are already expressing regrets now that they realize what their ballots hath wrought. I do want to point out there's an online petition we've learned this morning for a second EU referendum that has reached more than a million signatures. We know that it's not going to make a difference necessarily, it's not gonna change anything but what do you think they're regretting specifically? I think they're regretting the consequences of their vote if you look at what happened to the pound yesterday if you looked at what happened to global financial markets to panic around the world as a result of this decision Of course they are having buyers remorse. Didn't we all know that was coming

24:56 One would think certainly lots of economists and other experts warned that this would have dire consequences but yet the leaders of also as a part of the science is the new religion a lot of the younger generation when they hear you know things like 98% of all scientists agree 98 percent of all economists agree. They take it as fact they take it as a consensus means It's got to be right, its gotta be true dire consequences. But yet, the leaders of the Leave campaign said— Well, down with the experts. You know there were actually one of the leaders of the campaign had basically said Of course there are no experts who agree with me but who cares I think this country has had enough expertise and has had enough of experts So yes There were a lot of people who are forecasting these consequences But in a very perverse way because it is anti-establishment anti elitist anti intellectual Anti establishment anti elite anti intellectual Attitude that his has taken root around the world

25:56 people just brushed those forecasts aside and said I don't care because they're against it, i'm for it. Sure so real quickly maybe in one or two sentences what would you like to say to the American Here we go. Now she's not a journalist, she is an opinion editor. From where? Washington Post! They're asking her to tell the American public something as though she is a foreigner? Okay here we go. As we head into our own election in November. Elections have consequences it may feel gratifying to vote for the protest candidate But think about what they actually stand for. Think about what experts, economists and otherwise political historians say about the policies that the two candidates are putting forward and think about the consequences of those policies which you will have to live with." So this meme of, buh! The most googled term is What Is The EU? This was a big one. This was expertly launched

26:51 I got that too. Before you continue with going in that direction, this woman has a couple of things...a couple memes in there that need some addressing. One of them is the buyer's remorse idea and that's where this phony baloney You know, online thing came from probably Facebook. I'm certain to help helped out with that show. But she she made this thing about people are regretting their vote to leave there was a number of people that they track somebody down a couple of people on one of these shows or other and they said, oh I'm sorry. I went in vote and they...I don't know how they try to sell this to anybody because it makes no sense there's a logical thing going on here that is being ignored by the younger voter and it's being ignored by the news media too The argument was this- I went into vote

27:43 And I voted against the, I voted for exit from Brexit because I didn't think it was going to make any difference. I just went in to vote, it was like kind of just because... Now the...I don't care what electorate we're talking about if its British or American. If you don't think your votes gonna mean anything, you don't vote! Yeah. I don't know anybody that gets out of bed goes and hauls their ass down at the voting place and votes because they think its meaningless? That's what they're trying to sell us. Yeah which is all by these very smart people

28:23 Oh no, very dumb people. I'm sorry. Yeah. Yes yeah right they're even dumb uneducated people even less likely to go out of their way to vote Even Max Keiser bought into this Now what's amazing is that the hangover from this is that Brits don't even know what they voted for According to Google The most popular search today after was What's the EU? Why did I vote to leave the EU Who am I It's one incredible accidental revolution. I'm not buying it, i'm not buying that at all That was...no and that just popped up Let's listen to another version of this This is a bigger...Mackeyser has no audience ABC has a huge audience And this is the clip ABC rap Google search Other major story tonight The global aftershocks After that vote in Britain and for so many around the world A stunning result

29:20 deciding to leave the European Union, to go it alone. Wall Street here at home plummeting more than 600 points and the faces in Britain those who thought there was no way this could happen then another surprise... The Prime Minister of Britain announcing his resignation walking back into 10 Downing Street with his arm around his wife And here in America fear over Americans and their savings The Dow ending the day down more than six hundred points And tonight, as the reality sets in evidence some British voters may be having second thoughts. One of the top Google searches in the UK What is the European Union? Voters asking what it is they just left I'd like to know who... Now wait stop stop I gotta analyze the end of this thing because there was a joke opportunity and It was presented in such an awkward way He says wondering what it is

30:08 They just left and it was is it supposed to be? No! It should have been, he's wondering what it is they just left I think was what he's supposed to say but he had a pause in there so he said wondering what it is They just left, which makes it very awkward because that would be the way to present a joke. I think somebody misput...I don't know how this problem was but... Let me listen to it again. Announcing his resignation walking back into 10 Downing Street with his arm around his wife and here in America fear over Americans and their savings The Dow ending the day down more than 600 points And tonight, as the reality sets in evidence some British voters may be having second thoughts. One of the top Google searches in the UK What is The European Union? Voters asking what it is they just left Yeah, it's a misread, misread, misread The way it should have been if you wanted to make this funny he could have done this wondering what it is They just left!

31:04 I mean, I think it was written as a joke and then he read it as not a joke. It didn't work out. Yeah, it didn't work out. A couple things in there that I want to talk about... savings, he uses the word savings. The stock market went down of 600 points has done that before what's it got to do with savings? Nothing. Well I not this is this is where people got a couple emails. I woke up my money is worth 10% less. Yeah that's not yeah oh yeah my money's worth 10% less the elites lost 5 billion euros pounds because of their money's worthless

31:42 Well our money's worth more. I know, no one says that! I'm like YAAAHHH! Nobody is writing that. Trump did and then they ridiculed him Did you see the, uh... The audio wasn't good enough to clip. He was doing his Scottish golf course press conference before the press conference started some comedian from the UK who's apparently some really funny dude he crashed the press conference and said oh I'm here to sell my new golf balls and they had golf balls with swastikas on them They were great looking golf balls. Very few people covered this, in fact ABC trying to slam him but the Scottish... Slam? Slam him! Yeah I said that

32:29 Only Democracy Now that I know of, except some other maybe minor outlets showed the guy. He had him come out you could see him as a funny little guy and then he threw a bunch of these golf balls out and then they showed shots of them Everybody all American major outlets nobody even mentioned this little thing It was anything was funny. It was this audio wasn't good That's why it was it was just not well recorded Mike didn't love the guy should have miked himself But I have an MSNBC version of the googling what is the EU? I'd like to play Yeah, it's interesting because the Googling of what is the EU and what happens if we leave that spiked after the vote was pretty incredible Bob I want to play you

33:09 Just to Kim's point, sort of the uncertainty that we're now seeing among people who actually voted to leave. This is one young man who has gotten a lot of play probably to his extreme sadness or woman about the regrets about the vote take listen. The whole family this morning even though majority of us voted to leave We are actually regretting it today I wish we had an opportunity to vote again simply because I would do so many things differently. And Bob, there's a young man who was at a roundtable who is even more famous than that poor young lady but that kind of regret that you're seeing now what do you make of it? Well I think people were basically saying I'm mad as hell to use the cliche and I'm not going to take it anymore and that's what they were saying with their vote if you ask them or do you mad at

33:58 Oh, there you go. Always bringing it back to Trump! Lovely I guess we can credit Trump for the whole thing. So, unless you have something else...I do have an opinion about the real cause of this unless you want to play some more clips but i want to do that a bit The thing that bothers me is let's go back to ABC with Tom Yamas and he's covering Trump at the golf course We're still doing Brexit though right?

34:59 Yeah, we're gonna do Brexit for a while. We promised we were going to do Brexit. All of our thoughts about Brexit aren't all bent out of shape or screwy... Or made ill, made ill by the bull crap. You can get made ill by this and all those fears and everything again I'm gonna stick with my theory that this was all part of a World War three scenario Which is which is interestingly it's a couple of the memes I'm hearing another big one which Angela Merkel tweeted out as well saying The European Union project was about

35:37 Stopping wars and because it's gone now. We'll have war that is a big one Oh, it was about stopping wars Yeah I'm going to there's actually people in England that believe that yeah I'm going to do some I was on some forum and somebody says oh we're gonna have War now There's some kid you know an 18 year old We're gonna have war now that my dad said so you know I spoke to Michelle Mike my buddy who has the place in the south of France and France oh boy, sorry South of France and France south of France. I'll tell ya yeah And he said he said well there's a couple of things he said number one Now we're good the French are very vindictive He'd be said they are going to mess with us That is his thinking and he's a real real Brit but the thing he brought up which I found interesting was

36:29 is Gibraltar. And Gibraltar is now in play and the parallel is so uncanny because here we have a small piece of, you know it's attached to Spain It was acquired after the war of the succession of Spain When was it the the the big kahuna? I will forget his name He was childless and so who was going to be that the ruler of Spain and they had to divvy it all up And you know some went to where his sister, and so there was a lot going on. And then though You know there was a big war over this succession

37:09 And what wound up happening is England, which was a smaller player. They got a couple of protectors they got Menorca and they got Gibraltar and Gibraltar arguably was a part of the EU with or is a part of the EU with United Kingdom in the you then now the EU and Spain is saying hey we should change the rules here it should be different I love Gibraltar because it's a great place to go. You know, they love going on vacation. It's been there in their family for hundreds of years and here is the irony...it's like Crimea! It's the exact same thing but i think it'll be handled little differently in this case. Well, it's gonna be interesting see how Gibraltar is handled because something that get voted 80-90% to stay

38:02 Which makes sense because they're actually in the EU, they're physically attached as opposed to Great British Isles. What do you think of the comparison to Crimea with Russia? I never thought of that and i think it's a good idea but the problem is not so traditionally anybody...I mean the only people who could...I mean British are.. It would make better parallel if the Russians always had Crimea and the Crimeans wanted to be with Ukraine When it's just kind of the answer well, yes true. It's like a reverse It's kind of like a reverse twist kind of a fancy version of the Crimea situation with everything backwards yeah so is that? It's an interesting thing to bring up as such but I don't side the parallel is not really accurate It is a problem. I think private and Gibraltars every so often goes into one of these little Little snippet things where they

39:01 I don't know, it's very British my understanding. Never been there love to go but it's apparently you know this is a little of its like Little London and And I guess London itself is also problematic because they voted heavily into To stay yeah, I have actually this is a Max Keiser clip which I think is fantastic short one about the problem with The City of London being within London, of course they all wanted to stay and here's why. UK has got financial services okay? And this is what they have as a raunchy economy and they're at the nexus of the European Centre for money laundering and other financial crimes now with Brexit that is in question A lot of that business is going to flow to Frankfurt so their ability to skim the cream off the top

39:51 is diminished and that means less cash flow and that means a less ability to keep that top 1 10th of one percent happy. And meanwhile there's no manufacturing base I mean so what the pound drops down to record lows does that mean they're going to go back into the factory you start building shoes and they can start building You know, stuff and they're not that's not gonna happen. And maybe in 20 or 30 years they have to rebuild the entire industrial base That's not gonna happen in one or two years. Yeah we have to find a new place to launder the drug money I don't know what we're gonna do! This is a good one Now here's a little snippet this kind of funny play this HMS Cornwall story Okay

40:33 And then I gotta tell you something, Connell. No one's talked about this but in 2007 the HMS Cornwall was stopped by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard they held their sailors for 15 days they humiliated them just like they did ours in January and Great Britain had to go to Brussels for help and of course Brussels dragged your feet so along the way...I mean this doesn't happen overnight remember that Euroskepticism or the Eurosceptic movement goes back a minimum years even longer so this has been building for a long time. If I didn't know that story, somehow vaguely remember yes but don't have any b12 in the in the air stream

41:16 Yeah, you should probably grab some. Let's play a couple random clips. Actually go back to the Trump clip. This is where they're trying to... There's ABC Tom Yamas trying to hammer... Hammer! Hammer! And slam Trump. Europe to its core Donald Trump choppered in for the reopening of his golf course with this bold announcement Basically they took back their country that's a great thing With bagpipers following him and staffers wearing red made Turnberry great again caps, Trump spent less than 30 seconds at the top of his speech addressing Brexit. Then another 13 minutes praising the course from the new sprinklers to the luxury suites. A lot of people think this will be the greatest part three anywhere in the world afterwards. Trump fielding many questions about Brexit

42:05 Do you think anything you said in the United States influenced voters here in Britain when it comes to leaving the EU? If I said yes, total influence. It'll say that's terrible his ego is terrible right so I will never say that Tom but my opinion Is that what happened should have happened they'll control their country and they'll control everything about their country Trump also tweeting They took their country back just like we will take America back And as the British pound was sinking, Trump was singing. Look if the pound goes down they're gonna do more business you know when the pound goes down more people are coming to Turnberry frankly On Wednesday Trump was less certain about Brexit I don't think anybody should listen to me because i haven't really focused on it very much but my inclination would be to get out and today Hillary Clinton releasing this new video mocking his golf course appearance Are you traveling?

42:58 policy advisors. Well, I've been in touch with them but there's nothing to talk about David though Trump is in Scotland for this critical time in Europe's history this was a scheduled business trip and tonight the Trump campaign tells me right now there are no other foreign trips planned before the election David Tom Yama seen Scotland forest tonight huh yes They played a clip from some Hillary thing that was just lame. There was a lot of this analysis, people saying he didn't even know what it was about, he didn't know there was a vote... you know, a lot of hyperbole. A true leader would have taken this time to talk about the consequences and not just his own stuff, blah blah blah blah. By the way I have a confession to make He went there to open the golf course! That's why- What is he supposed to do?

43:48 You hate golf. No, I don't blame you no no no no I didn't experiment a test to prove or to demonstrate how media can control your mind and And I didn't tell you about it all although I think in the last episode I never know with you you may have already figured out what I was doing here's what I did I made a big deal about the media using the words slammed and hammered and thumped and pounded, all of these words. And you have highlighted this for us, me doing this. Yeah yeah The reason why did it is a mind control trick because every time you read this or hear this on the news what do you think about? When someone says slammed or hammered? Yeah if you've been listening to this show and you hear that on the news you think about...this show

44:47 Oh, yes. That yeah we do that every so often we try to do that So I did it on purpose and i want everyone to realize how well it worked? I don't know that It Did oh Yeah Have you seen Twitter oh yeah the minute There's a slammed headline boom there's A hundred Posts about that's a plus then good Good for You i'm glad you did That but it was more to Demonstrate We've done This before with other Memes that come out We bitch and moan About him yeah But it Works Just never thought slammed was used that much until you pointed it out, and I'm looking well Yeah Then they have they have transformed to hammered or whatever the new next one is because they're overusing the term But I thought that when we developed at the end of the day yeah by Also helped. Yeah, that was also a good one but that we didn't do that on purpose oh

45:37 This one I did on purpose. No, but the one that came after that we did on purpose and I can't remember what it was... It's another critique. It's another of these phrases that the media keeps using over and over and over and over and over! And it just drives both of us kind of crazy. Slam never really bothered me that much but uh... It seems a little beneath The New York Times And the BBC. Yes, I know having written a couple pieces for them over the years and i know how the editing works yes! I'm stunned that New York Times even allows it. And BBC, BBC did as well. Well BBC's you know they're...I don't know what they're up to but it's nothing good this whole thing is just a

46:16 And whether it results in, you know...here's the little...if you go on the internets, you'll see a bunch of websites. If you look for conspiracy sites about how the US is really behind the entire EU and we want to start in there. There's some truth to that but let's listen here's a good clip on the PBS NewsHour discussing the USA involved in the European project. agree that there isn't any leverage or room for maneuver, particularly with Chancellor Merkel and with the United States. And stepping back we have been at this for 70 years this is not just a European project it's very much an American project and we have been central for those seventy years to cajole the Europeans at particular times when things were going the wrong

47:04 way to do the right thing and work together. Our leverage isn't the same as it was in the 40s, 50s and 60s but it's still there we're still a very critical partner and I do believe that if the United States particularly working with Chancellor Merkel We're to make it very clear that yes, we accept the results of the voters and yes there will be a different relationship between the United Kingdom and the European Union. But we still want the United Kingdom to be a fundamental strong European power We want the Europeans and the United Kingdom and the United States to work closely together. Will do it in NATO, will do it on ad hoc basis outside of it but we need to work this out together in order to maintain this essential European project." Well yeah I can see that. I'd say more of a globalist really create a united states of Europe then bring it all together eventually

48:05 Yeah, the one world government. People laugh when we say it but there's a lot to it I don't think they're laughing as much as they used too I mean they used to remember when we first picked up on Nigel Farage and his influence Yeah, very early on very early on you keep was doing anything We just saw this guy's too much of a of an interesting speaker to ignore. We got a lot of flack from UK listeners Racist racist racist racist racist racist racist yeah racist racist racist and

48:42 You know, he's continued to provide us with material. I know where this racist thing comes from which i think is worth going back into history for a moment back to 2011 Because all of this racist stuff, what are you laughing at? Let's go way back in history. If you'd have said 1860 I think that would be a little more interesting... I already did that with Gibraltar and got nothing from ya! But I know because you were floundering with the backstory. Hold on let's go back to 2011

49:21 Okay, this actually goes back to earlier than that. These problems specifically with let's just say broadly immigration started with a concept that was pushed very, very hard by the European Union. And I witnessed this myself at the turn of the millennium 2000 where Europe was going to create the multicultural society That was the idea...that was the plan And along with that came a lot of issues. Let's start with Salman Rushdie, really if you think about it he was the first guy to write something bad about the Prophet Muhammad and there is a fatwa in his head in fact not reported or very underreported in February of this year

50:11 the Grand Puba there in Iran, up the fatwa to $4 million if you kill the guy. Which is... people don't even know Salman Rushdie- When did this happen? Because my understanding was that the fatwa was lifted! No sir. In fact, The New York Times did report on it. Let me see I have it here February 23rd The New York Times reported on this Iran's former Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khomeini issued the fatwa in 89 and he just upped it to four million dollars at the beginning of this year. Just underreported so these are these say, these are the issues and I have a couple more examples after Charlie Hebdo but listen to David Cameron talking about the issues United Kingdom faced

51:06 in 2011 and then just, in your mind think about how he's been speaking about these same issues in the most recent memory last year or two. What I'm about to say is drawn from the British experience but I believe there are general lessons for us all In the UK some young men find it hard to identify with the traditional Islam practiced at home by their parents whose customs can seem stayed when transplanted to modern westerly countries But these young men also find it hard to identify with Britain too, because we've allowed the weakening of our collective identity. Under the doctrine of state multiculturalism, we've encouraged different cultures to live separate lives apart from each other and apart from the mainstream." And this is exactly what the multicultural idea was! And everyone said yeah that's great, but everyone should be

52:02 in Europe and hey you Muslims can be over here, and you Orthodox can be over here. You Jews can be over here but Muslims... you can split up Moroccans there Turks there Pakistanis whatever you want to do. We failed to provide a vision of society to which they feel they want to belong we've even tolerated these segregated communities behaving in ways that run completely counter So when a white person holds objectionable views, racist views for instance we rightly condemn them.

52:38 But when equally unacceptable views or practices come from someone who isn't white, we've been too cautious frankly – even fearful – to stand up to them. The failure for instance of some to confront the horrors of forced marriage – the practice where some young girls are bullied and sometimes taken abroad to marry someone when they don't want to is a case in point This hands-off tolerance has only served to reinforce the sense that not enough is shared. And this all leaves some young Muslims feeling rootless and a search for something to belong to, and something to believe in can lead them to this extremist ideology Now for sure they don't turn into terrorists overnight but what we see in so many European countries is a process of radicalization

53:32 refreshing to hear him say those things which have now you can't say that anymore because you're just a racist and Underneath the undercurrent like clip of the day give it to yourself. Thank y'all take the borderliner Oh The under excellent clip. Thank you I went looking for this because I was I was in remember the clip from the patio We should have had to clear well Angela Merkel Angela Merkel at the time is in German Bangla Merkel came out and said The multicultural society has failed at that point in time in the Netherlands tail phone hole I can't see it as a friend, but he was a colleague I work with him on a couple of TV shows He did a movie

54:12 which was anti-Islam about how women are treated. He was shot down in the streets of Amsterdam and then a knife, he was shot, knifed and they stuck a note with other prominent people who were next on the list into his chest With the knife. I haven't forgotten this! Then we had, I'll just skip forward quick... Charlie Hebdo. Just to give you an idea about Britain and the UK after Charlie Hebdo the Victoria and Albert Museum took down Muhammad's image because quote British museums and libraries hold dozens of these images mostly miniatures and manuscripts so they had to take them all out of view in Germany the Deutsche Opera cancelled Mozart's

54:53 Edomanio in Berlin because it depicted the severed head of Muhammad. The English playwright Richard Bean forced to censor his adaptation of Lysistrata, in which the Greek women hold a sex strike to stop men from going to war In his script Muslim virgins were going on strike to stop suicide bombers couldn't have that no can't have that Molly Norris cartoon American cartoonists She drew a picture of Muhammad that proclaimed everyone draw Muhammad day. She's still in hiding to this day the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York pulled images of Muhammad so People notice these things particularly older people and they say hold on a second This it's affecting our culture, and this is just the art world So that is really A big part of what people have been feeling And then with the minute you said something about it That's when the BAM

55:44 BAM! Your racist labeling came in. So this has been brewing a long time and you can say, sure it's the laws and it's the regulations and all that but when you have a problem with people living next door to you ghettoized this is much bigger than anything else and this is not discussed particularly if you know that this discussion, this conversation was going on in Europe for years and years and years. And now it's over but you can't talk about anymore because we went from multicultural to complete...to create a national identity well that's failed too instead of saying we failed at this let's stop it he said we failed let's keep going and let's take any dissenters and call them racists

56:26 And xenophobes. And by the way, I mentioned in a newsletter that I don't think anybody using the word xenophobe knew what this word meant a decade ago They had to look it up. I think it started, maybe even begun with Trump because somebody some intellectual said he's a xenophobe. It started with Farage I think that's when I first heard it. Okay well then whatever the case somebody brought up and I hate I said that phrase yeah somebody brought up uh... that the word and people are looking it up in a sense of good worded it actually identifies the problem better than just races tonight has been now what you get is a xenophobe and a racist so you can't both words and then we got a new one which came into play with people should look for here at all i demagogue yet demagogued yes that's a left wing as a winner brought them again and then the guy uses his horrible said sounds bad but if you'd look at their

57:26 The definition for it simply means populist. It's a person who takes advantage of popular opinions, in other words if everybody wants to do something Let's say they all want to put a lake in the neighborhood. And you do we need the lake, we need the lake! You could be defined as a demagogue just that simple it's not really a negative thing but it has negative connotations from the sounds of it Demagogue. Yeah, like demon-demon-demon It's got demon in it and it has gog which is some sort of negative things in some biblical sense or Talmudic sense I believe And there is a... So now you're a demagogue A racist and a xenophobe And I have seen posts on Twitter and elsewhere where somebody has called these three things! And someone feels so proud for using those words

58:25 Well, another word that I think is used incorrectly but a big word is divorce. I mean... What? Yeah. That came right. Now that you mentioned it because I noticed it but I didn't notice to the point where I'd mention on the show but now that you have yes, it's being used improperly constantly with this situation with Brexit It's gonna be an ugly divorce divorce divorce and divorce. They're trying to divorce is easy in Texas Just shoot the woman right no in the Netherlands It's if you kill your wife view, and you just say oh my god it was a crime of passion You'll see you'll be it'll be five years you can get out in three

59:10 But if you go through the whole divorce, women have a lot of rights in divorce in Europe and the EU. You could wind up paying money for the rest your life so... your choice! Oh God. Anyway, so the divorce came into play as opposed to just leaving or divorce it came into play all the networks are using and it has a negative connotation like everything else that is being reported about this event Like someone cheated on their wife Or something, yeah. Divorcing, they're divorcing. Something went wrong and it was bad and somebody was at fault... It has to be England that seems to be at fault but uh

59:56 Whether or not you're probably right about the simmering issues of multiculturalism that have ghettoized these populations. I've lived in two of these countries! You've lived in it, and it does make nothing but sense and I think that clip of Cameron discussing it would then...you're right, I haven't heard that discussion for years is probably had more influence than the other two factors. Atomic, European atomic treaty I think. You know there's a lot of different treaties have led up to this but I was there the sale was multicultural society is gonna be great multi and it was every single country as part of the EU It was a big push And I also remember when everyone said crap it's failed and that was around this time starting with Merkel

1:00:51 Well, it's yeah. Multicultural replacing melting pot which was the old you know that was ours I was that was a memory we had the melting pockets We could suck all these people in at a certain rate and make Americans Yeah And there was issue especially in the 20s and 30s of some of these early movements where he had a lot of Eastern Europeans coming over and they Parents would come in and say oh you can't Don't speak either home language. You gotta learn English. She got to speaking this she gotta speak English and to become an American. And, you know there's still pockets of Chinese only speakers in plenty of Spanish-only areas but... Ghettoization! That was the result that was the total result. Hey let's listen I've got an interesting clip because Brooks & Shields are two from the same pod piece on PBS

1:01:52 Brooks is the guy from The New York Times who has been completely... be baffled by the Trump phenomenon. And I find it, by the way discouraging that he hasn't been fired because if i'm going to listen to people doing analysis, I want them to understand and explain to me something not like, I don't understand this guy! Why? He even says a few times in some clips we've played him where he says, I don't know...I haven't got a clue so what are you on the show for Well, I think he's still trying to understand it and he's almost getting close. He's getting kind of close and he discusses the Brexit with a fairly reasonable analysis for someone who still doesn't know what he is talking about. And agrees and ends up agreeing with Shields about the same thing but this is the blame game argument. This is one of those things that you've heard you probably disagree with.

1:02:49 They just blame the elites. Oops, oops, sorry. Scapegoating anyway but this is I thought was well...I thought this was better than most of these little bits they do. Until now practically has been about the vote in the UK David to leave The European Union, what do you make of this? Well in country after country we're seeing a conflict between what you might call urban cosmopolitans and less well-educated ethnic nationalism. Dummies! Ethnic nationalism is on the rise and I agree with everything that Evo Richard... Stop there for a second Is that not the definition of bigotry?!

1:03:30 No, it's total bigotry and he is a bigot. And he does fall into the trap of blaming the dummies because... The dummy shouldn't vote by the way for all that stuff. Yeah you should be an IQ test! An IQ test is what you need. You should need an IQ test. He falls into that trap because he IS an elite And so he actually is speaking from an elite perspective in this little bit, and if you think of it now those terms you can hear the bigotry. He's a horrible bigot But at the same time, he's expressing the elites perspective from a kind of the critic within the elite clique kinda thing. I just found it interesting. And ethnic nationalism is on the rise and I agree with everything that Evo Richard and Margaret were saying but it should be said...and I covered...I lived in Brussels for five years with the Maastricht Treaty when all this was coming together and the elites as much as I hate to leave the fact that UK is going to leave EU

1:04:29 The elites, to some large degree brought this on themselves. There was built into the European unification project an anti-democratic condescending and snobbish attitude about popular democracy And secondly, and this is also true here, I'm as pro immigration as the day is long But we've asked a lot of people who are suffering in this economy to accept extremely, radically high immigration levels. And we've probably over-flooded the system and so while it's easy and I do condemn the vote to leak it out, a little humility is on order on the part of establishment frankly that we've flooded the system with more than they can handle

1:05:06 And secondly, we've not provided a good nationalism. A good patriotism that is cosmopolitan, that is outward-spanning and that is confident and therefore a bad form of parochial inward looking Trumpian nationalism has had pre reign." Mark the elites brought it on themselves? I think the forces in the advocates of globalization have been primarily obsessed with the well-being of the investor class and the stockholders and shareholders, and been indifferent oftentimes callous to the dislocation and suffering that people in countries affected by this trade. The expanded trade larger economy who

1:05:49 been victimized by it. And it has been accompanied, I think, by an elitist condescension in many cases and it's been taken advantage of. The shorthand today is that we saw the words for the Republican nominee-in waiting who was a part time presidential candidate and full time real estate developer You know he won and Barack Obama lost I mean by it by any scorecard There's no spin you put on this that in any way comforts Democrats today if this Who are the elites really when when? I mean let's let's just break it down does that include everyone with the college education because I am under educated So I am a dummy according to these people. Oh, yeah

1:06:39 I was thinking this exact same thing. Who are the elites and who are the ones that... are being condemned in this particular, this little bit we listened to. Even though David Brooks to me is an elite and there was no real group of elites I mean there are people that meet at the Bilderberger drinking club which includes people like Eric Schmidt yeah and a number of people from the CFR, The Council on Foreign Relations i think that group or the elites are part of the elites I think that entire catalog you can download How about the Atlantic Council? That's totally elite. If you're on that council, you're an elite period. It is by definition So do you want to hear what one of the elites there, one of their economists had to say? He was actually quite calm and reassuring about the future how it would go Dr Jeffrey Gedman Now we know Britain has decided to leave the European Union I would say for all us big deep breath

1:07:42 It doesn't mean the sky is falling, it doesn't mean the European Union is coming unglued. It doesn't mean the end of world order as we know it! It means that Britain's very thoughtfully in a very contentious campaign and referendum have decided for reasons of maybe economics, maybe identity, maybe issues of sovereignty have decided their future is best served outside the European Union It's still a European country in power. It still wants to and needs to, and will work closely with the European Union. I think the questions that remain are, what does the transition look like? How do we protect stability? How do we guard against unwanted volatility inside Europe and with the United States? And I would even say this for Europeans, I think it's a wake-up call because the questions that Britons were asking themselves they exist in other countries too

1:08:40 Other countries, too, are concerned about democracy deficit. The meaning of the future of Europe? How does one define that? Is it more integration? Is it less integration? Is it a one-speed Europe or is it multi-speed Europe? So I would say while some people will be disappointed – and I think Brussels and Paris and Berlin will be disappointed – I think it's a chance to hear citizens across Europe deep concerns, how do we make Europe function smoothly going forward? Keep Britain part of that project and America close to both the United Kingdom and the European Union. If we listen learn the right lessons I think were gonna be just fine. Oh that's how the elites tell you it's all going to be okay. Don't worry. That is a very elite guy sure! Just don't worry is all going to be fine because it'll never happen there's gonna be a do-over

1:09:35 It's obvious. They're not going to let it happen Well, if they have Juncker as one of the presidents...Juncker the head guy and Schultz Yeah, both of those two guys have said let's speed up the process. Let's get him out. He's out again amount and meanwhile Merkel Came out and said no no no no slow down We don't you know then I think she's sensing the possibility of it not really happening And she's saying no no no we don't want to rush into it. I think have a clip about this but she She's like I mean It's so it looks so obvious to me

1:10:14 That the entire EU project even though we're behind it and then we were kind of supportive of the Germans after the war I mean We killed as many as we could but after the war was over. We realized they were good at a few things And we took a lot of them into our scientific community NASA is operation paperclip Operation Paperclip, it seems totally illegal and definitely unethical but we did it anyway. And I think this is the Germans keep making this of course the French used to do this with Napoleon they kept trying to take over all of Europe and the whole place they wanted to take the place over and then the germans started doing it but the germans have a longer history of trying to take the place over also and it's like let's let the german state the place all over this is they can take over the whole place because these people are did in knuckle under denuclear under the last time this time will be peaceful who create this disease you know i remember on the whole thing is all run by bunching of these bureaucrats into that these characters you're crazy good example he has not jeremy but he's what from

1:11:16 Luxembourg a Lichtenstein Luxembourg I guess this was the clip and there's a clip that BBC was playing which i did not get A copy of anyone in the chat room before this on the stream listening if you can email it to me, if you find it But they interviewed a veteran of World War II, old Brit and he was late 80s and 89. And it's a great piece of audio but I was listening to his streaming so I couldn't catch it, couldn't find it. And he's crying. He's so emotionally says, We have our country, I have my country back. The one that my friends and buddies died for just to have a bunch of Germans run the whole place! He was so happy but he was emotional because it's not that long ago there are people who remember

1:12:06 Not that many, but enough of them to give enough of the oldsters that remember and they were lectured a lot when they were... The younger generation doesn't even know there was a war. The 18-24s is 75% of them voted to stay in the EU. They don't know! And they're the ones who say that you know I'm not British, I'm European and they think of themselves as European. I don't know about you? You've been to Europe a lot, you lived there for long time here and there. I don't, i've never thought of the British as European per se. No. I always thought them as British Well this was something that was sold in and I've heard Germans say this, I have heard British say this, I have heard Dutch say this

1:12:44 And for a long time I heard, we-I do feel like I'm European. Yes we are part... The idea was right! Hey, we're the young generation We don't hold grudges against the new Germans They're sorry you know just give me my bike back and we won't talk about it They all considered themselves to be European. And it was hammered into everybody's head, you're European! You're European... But ultimately we know a fiscal union without a political union just it's very dangerous Well, some people blame the actual creation of the Eurozone as part of the problem. The British luckily never became part of the Eurozone and so they could get out a little easier without all the entanglements... I mean that's why the Greeks would have left a long time ago if they weren't somehow wrangled into the euro

1:13:38 But it seems to me that you have these Germans running everything, and the Germans are Germans. And they're the ones that set up this number of bureaucracy...people working in the bureaucracy is twice the size according to one of the London newspapers, twice the size! The bureaucracy creating laws and rules is twice the size of the British Army What we have going on in our country, which is these rule-making bodies which have gotten out of control. Which I think is annoying to most people trying to run a business and I think in England there was nothing but complaining about this small business people they couldn't do this they couldn't do that there were too many rules and these rules all came out of Brussels because

1:14:17 manufacturing operation going on in Brussels of rule writing. It is right, no let's make the plug this size! Let's do this, let's standardize this... Oh yeah it's a rule-writing factory that's right Yeah so they're writing all these rules and regulations tons of them millions of them and there expect everybody to even keep up with it which almost as impossible So you're always via in violation a very Soviet idea though so no matter what you do during the day we have any violation of some rules We have that here in the United States too We have it here only recently and it's been going, it's been getting worse. The EPA is a good example You don't know what the hells going on with these rules I mean that's what's gonna happen to you know this net neutrality thing It's uh...it's gonna turn into the FCC's gonna write a bunch of rules and pretty soon you're gonna need a license To get on the internet maybe not that bad but definitely Remind me of a clip for that later

1:15:08 You have a clip for that, good. But this whole thing is like you know it's just I'm glad this happened and iIm glad they voted out now let's listen the one that bothers me the most though let's listen to the CBS and this what bothers me the most and it should bother you your old enough to feel ageism but lets listen to CBS ages rap. Being in Europe would allow an influx of immigrant hordes from the east and those who had successfully... Wait a minute they're sending whores? What did he say What's the problem people? Being in Europe would allow an influx of immigrant hordes from the east and those who had successfully stoked those fears like Nigel Farage were gleeful. June 23rd needs to become a national bank holiday, we will call it Independence Day

1:15:57 London, by the way that was well timed with the Will Smith movie coming out with Independence Day. Genius! Very good. London unlike most of the country had voted to stay in And Leave campaigner Boris Johnson was jeered as he left home. He's now a favourite to take over as Prime Minister and tried to take the high road I believe we now have a glorious opportunity We can pass our laws and set our taxes entirely according to the needs of the UK economy, we can control our own borders

1:16:33 The vote had split the country on age, geographic and economic lines. The older poor less well-educated voted out. The young better educated wanted to stay in. The vote hasn't cleared the air here it's made it more bitter the old have determined what kind of country the young will live in so just replace the world all with black or red or female whatever Yeah, it's unbelievable. I thought that was the one of the most abhorrent raps that CBS could manage now CBS Of course we know is an agent of a government agency and The government agency to hold government our government didn't want this to happen because we used the We like Britain to be in the

1:17:23 and agent in the EU, which we wanted to keep as an agent so we could do stuff like these sanctions against...which are really the sanctions against Russia hurt the EU. And by the way people say oh Putin wins because of this no! Putin doesn't want the whole thing to fall apart because he knows what what the results that would be. Because you know these guys start fighting with each other next thing you know they wanna take over Russia

1:18:04 You know that NATO wants to do that inside track us. It won't be Boris Johnson who will become Prime Minister yeah, what is would you hear Theresa May? Yeah, Theresa May's of high on the list everyone was talking about her should we listen to her Do we? Yeah, we haven't heard from her in a while. This legislation is important. The substance is right the time is right and the way it has been developed is right It's a properly considered thought through set of proposals that will help to keep us safe at a time of very significant danger. It has been drawn up with close consultation with police and security services In open free society like ours We can never entirely eliminate threat from terrorism

1:18:47 But we must do everything possible, consistent with our values as a country to reduce the risk presented by our enemies. It is a struggle that will go on for many years and the threat we face right now is perhaps greater than it ever has been And we must have the powers we need... ...to defend ourselves There she is, your new Prime Minister. I hear that's... Actually, I forgot about that yeah and she's terrible Yeah! She's terrible Fun for the show Oh by the way thank you very much Britain because this is great for the show I mean very happy about that Yeah it gives us... we get to just

1:19:30 We like to discuss what's going on over there generally speaking, but this is a real gold mine because it brings in all sorts of issues of the name-calling and who are the elites. We still don't particularly know that they're there... And I'm also very proud that the NOA agenda listeners well ahead of knowing what was coming. Everywhere I heard, Well Americans probably think breakfast is a new breakfast cereal or a new candy bar! Talk about you're uneducated why don't you say we're all moron idiots? Maybe true but still come on there's some people are aware...I would say only your no agenda show has kept you up to speed with this thing as what's going on

1:20:11 Well, a lot of people feel that's the case. Nobody else was talking about this in advance. I mean days before the Brexit vote there was still no discussion on the mainstream media when you saw this coming down Broadway. I want to play an example of bad analysis because it's actually kind of this sort of thing they have Fox deteriorated after it went back to their normal hosts because they're normal hosts aren't that good and this is Tucker Carlson who's now all of a sudden an expert discussing with Greta The Scientologist. Some of the fallout of this and then it just falls into an abyss at the very end which is just needs comment I'm trying to find which clip it would be It would be example of bad analysis Ah, there you go, I gotcha France Germany, I mean they're not that...the Netherlands are not that many huge economies in Europe but now

1:21:04 Germany is preeminent and so if I'm Spain or Portugal, or France for that matter. And if I am looking at Germany and saying really? I want to be part of the organization you dominate completely No! The support for leaving in these other countries Netherlands particularly France also Is really high Trumpism which another word for nationalism Is a global trend Hold on a second What?! Trumpism, which is another word for nationalism. Is that in the dictionary all of a sudden? No but have you noticed this is the second time somebody has taken Trump's name and made it into something Yes! I love this. So tell me how it affects us here

1:21:43 Well, probably it will cause our economy to contract to some degree. Again the finance sector... One of the main points of globalization is that it allows capital to flow freely with less friction across borders That's really good for finance and there are some trickle down effects from this What do you mean by finance? I mean banking basically Ok but not everybody is a banker Of course not A lot people aren't bankers dependent on bankers for you know they aren't that dependent for their maybe if they're trying to get loans. You're absolutely right but there is some trouble going to affect them. Okay and I didn't get too much work to put the buzzer in, but let's stop there because he agrees with her when she says not everybody is a banker nobody's affected by it Is she absolutely insane? Yeah She is saying that banks don't mean anything to most people They mean everything to everyone

1:22:35 Every dollar you spend is a Federal Reserve note. That's an instrument of a bank! Every check you write is an instrument of a bank, every credit card purchase you employ is an instrument of a bank... ...every dollar you get for your salary comes from the bank. Everything that you do all the time! I believe what she means is just two types of banks, and it's been conflated certainly since in America since the Glass-Steagall was taken away. You have the bank which is the retail banking which is for small business and then you have of course the bigger ones there are four bigger businesses but then you have the investment side And that's the problem as all the bank stocks are going down It shouldn't make any difference to anybody In example you're talking about

1:23:27 Well, she made the point that the public seems divorced from banking. And the point is just to be opposite and he could have brought that in but he agreed with her instead because it's useless now. Now, you know, the whole...you know, the banking sector by the way their bank stocks are going down because nobody knows what's gonna happen as uncertainty is what really caused this stock market crash and whether or when or how it recovers I mean we've talked about this before It could result in a triggering effect where we actually go into a deep recession. This is the question I have for you, where does this fit into the cycles?

1:24:05 Well, it fits right into the cycles. It's almost perfect and here...but whether or not this is the mechanism that the triggering event is hard to say now we're talking about the 40-year cycle that I'm always talking about and which says were gonna have a really bad depression in 2016, late 2016 or 2017. 2017 should be the year it happens but because the crash...the real estate crash that started the so-called Great Recession happened in 2008 instead of 2009 when it was actually scheduled by my theory

1:24:49 to happen, it happened six months to a year earlier. It's possible that Tom Hartman, Thartman, who this 2016 crash might be right I mean this could do it. I don't think so because what my observation is the 2008 thing caught everyone off guard and We were controlling this particular downturn, which started in 2008 and has continued. And I think it had something to do with the Brexit, which is like nobody's doing well. There was all kinds of reports on the British don't think they're going anywhere. 11 percent of the public is only optimists. And so it's possible. I don't think so. I think what's gonna happen is we're gonna recover and go on as Mary Way marching forward but it's gonna happen

1:25:33 Again, when either Netherlands Denmark or one of these other countries those are the two that are targeted for another Brexit vote or exit dexit and nexet. It's getting corny. The Swexit you got the Swexit? And what's a Swexit? Sweden! Oh yes, Sweden. Yep exactly there's another one. That could happen too and that could all happen every time that happens it is going to drop the market again because oh my god we're all gonna die and I think any one of those could trigger the final collapse which will be a nasty one And it would just be the idea of a referendum? An exit referendum or an actual referendum

1:26:12 No, it has to be the vote. I think we would...I think it has to be modeled after what we just saw. There was the idea that was there and were waiting for blah-blah-blah. We had our thoughts about how is going to go? It went in a way that nobody fully expected which was a surprise which was an element of surprise which is a problem for the market. And so we had this element of surprise and then the thing collapsed. That's kind of like the model. The vote comes in oh no! Then the market will collapse and one of these collapses I think will trigger something bigger and it probably combined with something else. I just don't think this is it if It is okay, but I'm not I just don't see it as just a So there wasn't panic people keep talking about panic there was no panic something else Michelle said He said you just wait he says I know what France is gonna do they says they're gonna load up a whole bunch of these Of these migrants

1:27:09 On the ferry, they're gonna take him over. They're gonna drop him off because according to British law... Put him in a channel? Yeah well that too The minute you set foot on British soil You have rights as a refugee As an asylum seeker There has been some talk about this is not This is This has been discussed, what you're saying. And I think the way they're gonna do it...I think so too! Why not? Because they are sick of these people hanging out in Calais. Open the channel! So just get a big channel thing with a bunch of boxcars on it and load them in German style into boxcars. I'm thinking show title open the channel. Open the Channel. And I think that woman we heard on the last show saying brick it up

1:28:01 I think she was on to something. Yeah, and that's what i would do if i were the French And I was irked about all this thing and get these people out of Calais they say look Everybody you want to go we're gonna have one train? We know we have two three trains. We're going to ship them over there Get on if you want to go into otherwise get out of town There was no uh there was no a news video but there was an instagram video that was doing the rounds A couple of Brits as they were driving from France and getting ready to go through the channel, and it was mayhem. The migrants were throwing rocks at cars, cops were shooting tear gas, there are people all over the road, they're swerving around just to get into the channel! It's frightening! I know that was my response too but wow in Europe it is so hard to believe.

1:28:58 Yeah, I'll see what happens. I have a little entremont just typically now we have a new producer PM UK and I've been playing his stuff at the end of the show for the past couple of weeks He always seems to come up with them there about a minute long I'm gonna play this at the end But I figured this time as an exception also to honor him for the work he's doing one to play his most recent one Next to the sausage stand the conversation switched to national sovereignty Amongst the cream teas, one of the key referendum issues has reared its head to be the most divisible matter. The sun has risen on an independent united kingdom. Audizor We may well be close perhaps to Nexen Dexin Audizor I'm told that same may apply to Sweden and perhaps Austria Perhaps even Italy Audizor Independence Day

1:30:07 I've said before that Britain can survive outside the European Union and indeed we could find a way. Alright, let's play making an example of the UK one which I think is probably what is going to happen. To keep people from... anyone else doing this are gonna do that make an example in the UK by screwing them A clear message that Britain should leave as soon as possible and should not be given any special treatment In order to discourage other nations from following suit Personally I'm very sad about this decision but of course

1:31:00 We have to respect. Say what? Is Juncker, yes we will stand strong out is out and oppose the European Union's core values of promoting peace and the well-being of its peoples The union of 27 member states will continue. From German Chancellor Angela Merkel, there were questions about what comes next? We don't know about the consequences of this step that will appear within the next days weeks months and years That will depend on how we, the other 27 members are able and willing to react There is no quick key solution that we can take from this referendum decision

1:31:43 That would only divide Europe even more the old one. No vital spite and oh yeah, oh Yeah revenge yeah revenge is a German way And the French way in the French all of the French oh yeah, the French are kick-ass We always forget that because you know World War two kind of Kind of covered up them here than anyone made him look bad and optics weren't too good Well, for my money I think there's a lot of things in play. The fact that Cameron has said hey i'm not going to sail this ship, I'm not going to captain the ship you can all go find somebody else to do that where someone has to officially evoke article 50 and get this thing moving and typical EU

1:32:35 The policy, very much like the Dutch referendum against the Ukraine Association Agreement is thanks for your vote. Holland you have a problem with ratifying and you haven't decided yet whether you're going to listen to the people? It doesn't matter we're just gonna continue anyway. We don't need that 28th of 27 votes. So I'm thinking they'll probably say you know what we're just going to move forward article 50. It's as good as done We're starting to move ahead. It's just a technicality. I think that's what it will come down to yeah, but Britain can reclaim itself you could the United Kingdom With how long with the duo gonna have did they're gonna date yes? And that's probably that's what our basic thesis is yeah, well, I would say that

1:33:28 Otherwise, you're going to have to deal with the separation of Northern Ireland and Scotland. And the Scots are... as far I'm concerned they should get rid of those two countries! The Scots are the worst! They just disagreeable, they don't do anything that Brits want to do. I mean Northern Ireland has had a long history but the Scots are the worst They voted the other way, of course. They want to redo their split-off vote... I mean first they voted to stay with England and then now they disagree with some so they want to split off again Who needs these people? Trump Yeah well Trump! Yeah, Trump needs them And there's are ones by the way mostly behind the... Well Scotland has a lot of resources that would be an issue The oil mainly That's true

1:34:17 But they, eh so what? The British have a sale of the banking. As long as they don't lose their banking sector that'd be fine but the Scots are the ones behind Trump to keep Trump out of the country and make sure he's banned him from from the island If you listen to the... I listened to the House, the Parliament's debate on Trump and they it was mostly Scots. What i will say too our friends in the United Kingdom still get Monation East

1:34:53 If you are forced into a do-over or some other version of not what the people voted for pay close attention About what you can and cannot say in the European Union. Well, you can and cannot do this flows right into hate speech and intolerance And yeah You can't write Muslim suck on Twitter view will be arrested in the UK and that my friends is The real reason we have guns in United States that ensures our power as citizens. You may not like what I'm saying, you may disagree with it but i'm pretty sure we have not been mangled into the societies that I see in Europe and have witnessed to haven't lived in because ultimately with 300 million guns yeah there's a lot of accidents that happen bad stuff that happens but it probably keeps us safe from

1:35:45 You know, what some people will call the tyrannical government. But you don't have to be tyrannical just to tell people that hey, you can say that or I'm going to arrest you. Or I'm sorry your vote doesn't count. It doesn't matter what you said. I think it's an important distinction. Well, I'm glad you're... NRA, Curry, adam at curry dot com he is looking for a consulting gig? I'd just take some donations from him! Okay well the NRA should give us donations after that little spiel. We need a different word than divorce though. I don't like the divorce divorce That's not gonna happen. I know what we call it circumcision Briss okay, the brisket the brisket

1:36:41 Branding is my middle name. You want to take a break? Yeah, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C where the c stands for carnal cash Dvorak In the morning of you mr Adam Curry also in the morning all ships at sea boots on the ground feet in the air Subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there in the morning everybody in the chat room record numbers today John we have more than twit usually has Record numbers in the chat room and on the stream good to see y'all here. No agenda stream calm monitoring it yeah, and everyone's civil and It's good. I'm liking it, I'm liking it, I'm liking it... Very nice! Also, I would like to thank all of our artists but in particular I'd like to thank Mark G once again He is back and Mark G brought us the artwork for episode 836 Proof She's Human was the title of it

1:37:32 The artwork that he brought us so expertly was it was it there was kind of a compilation piece, and it was like a Swirling you know tornado as looked at from space with the British flag in there. It's nice It was no conceptual the nice being a flying saucer to me yeah flying saucer okay also good Yeah Nice, that's what I was thinking Alright, Ben no agenda art generator calm. That's what I was gonna say sorry Yeah We did actually have not been getting as much art as we'd like yeah so Benjamin Oliver starts the heads of listen he's a member that 837 club which is rare to have membership in these in the show number clubs much and so we thank him for that he's with $837 donation, and he writes In is this where I donate to get on the no fly watch list ah we have to talk about this for a moment

1:38:28 One of our producers, who sent in a donation for... We need to talk about this. People please listen to what Adam's about to say! He sent in a donation and the donation note said hey thank you so much for finally giving me an explanation why our president says ISIS or ISIL and others and we all say ISIS And the reason of course is it's the Levant which includes Israel and but you know Israel be on lookout You might get screwed So he put that in his donation note And so we got a note from, so you get to put it on hold and PayPal which is all automated by the way. This was still not a single person I don't think had been involved in this email exchange they said hey we have a problem we need to know why this specific amount and i think he did four one seven five or something because it was the letters ISIL on the keypad

1:39:21 And so why this amount specifically and why, and please explain the line. And it had his line about ISIS-ISIL Then it's all because of compliance. Compliance with the Office of Foreign Financial Assistance, which is the Treasury, which is making sure you're not sending money to terrorists... ...which would in this case, The NOAA Gender Show would be suspected of that! So even though this will get cleared up we're definitely on the list Please don't do this It just doesn't... Don't put the trigger words in there. It's obvious Well, I don't know what list we're on but it's definitely not the thing to do because it's going to get stopped and the money will not come to us. No! Because you know...it just because you're using these words

1:40:10 And just be careful what you write. Sorry, but this is not the US mail where you can write anything that's protected to some extent. All of this electronic stuff is all spied upon by all kinds of people at different levels I'm sure NSA had a copy of it. This was still automatic. I mean that's what was interesting, it was just purely algorithms picking up some stuff pretty weak by the way because we get a lot of people writing stuff without the actual trigger words yeah so Anyway, can I please get a Brexit special jingle run which includes Fuck the EU. We're all gonna die stop rafting Raffing so he would that's what he wants to his jingle run Yeah And he says it is also at night So he'll be knighted and also he will we haven't had one of these in a long time He'll be the sole member Of the 837 Club which has not happened in a long time Don't laugh

1:41:18 Why you are laughing? Shut up. You've got karma. Now I have a problem with the next donation and i'll explain why This is one of our regular donors, he's very famous knight in Virginia Beach, Virginia $333.33 He does want some karma Sunshine and smoothies Wait! I think you skipped over... I'm sorry okay oh I'm sorry my mistake My mistake it was an email I didn't realize He said in his email he wants to be anonymous for this donation. It was awkward the way he said it because it's like, he has a note and wants to be anonymous... And I'm thinking well he is not anonymous we know who he is but.. I put it into abeyance if he straightens this out then I will read this note which is an e-mail note on the next show

1:42:14 But it was confusing the way he wrote his email and I want to respect him. He wants to be anonymous maybe for some reason right now, I don't know maybe he's...I don't know but all it is that's confusing and so we will give him a karma and then move on to more interesting notes actually. All right, Peter White in Cambridge, Cambridgeshire Great Britain 3333. Yay Brexit! Please finally knight me as this donation should take me way beyond the $1,000 mark Sir Peter White Knight of Cambridge and the what is it? The Fens? Fens? You know what that might mean? I have no idea if it's a Fens either

1:43:05 I don't know. Well, night in that and figure out figured out later. I've been listening to every show since number one timing is everything and so now it seemed like a right time to step up Holy you Yanks will welcome us to the USA when we arrive July 22nd at Boston for our great tour of the United States The fence is true here on the fence also known as the Fenlands natural naturally marshy region in eastern England Oh, the Fens. The Fens? Yes it's true here on the ground I've been completely open about voting Brexit in my champagne socialist neighborhood in Cambridgeshire unless and until I make my views clear it is assumed that I'm a racist! Yeah even then... Racist! Old racist. And even then the talk is that the petition reaching two million signatures will trigger his second referendum what bullshit

1:43:58 Another big theme is that we should never have had this referendum as we, the people are not qualified to decide on such complex matters of national importance. More utter bullsh... Bullshit! Unfortunately... Oops whoops I just lost my cursor. Unfortunately the Brexit is in many ways a revolution to replace one elite by another elite But at least we can replace our elected representatives, which is exactly what we can't do in the EU. Yay Brexit! Please finally knight me as this donation should take beyond the $1,000 mark Sir Peter White, Sir Peter, white Knight of Cambridge and the Fens it's not taken And thank you very much We appreciate that I wouldn't think so Viscount Ralph Nelson in Aachen Deutschland Aachen? $250

1:44:59 Thanks for show 837 on Sunday. Hi John and Adam a little donation like to have a birthday call out He's got that my main protectorate neutral Morris net Turns 200 on 26th, 2016. Oh okay. Unfortunately it ceased to exist at the end of World War I in 1919 but that still means it lasted longer than the Soviet Union Keep up the good work and many thanks Viscount Natural Morrisett in Germany without Bavaria PSI just like Baron better than Viscount. Nice Okay Thank you very much. Dame Francine Hardaway, we need some karma. You've got it! Karma coming your way. You've got karma. Dame Francine Hardaway in Phoenix Arizona... Is she in Phoenix? Yes she is. $250. She was at the event at Sparks Restaurant New York Yeah I always thought she was a New Yorker. I guess I read Phoenix and not paying attention. Maybe. I think she relocated to Phoenix. I don't think she's native to Phoenix

1:46:04 I was going to donate to 837 today even before i got your email because i realized that this historic moment you'll be the guys i would most want to hear discuss it. P.S., the unclaimed property division of Arizona just found $4,600 in an old bank account of mine from 20 years ago! Everyone should go to missingmoney.com and check on themselves." Yes I do this commonly too... not necessarily with them there's other outlets- Yeah we've discussed it on the show and it was a hundred bucks for me I found 100 bucks There's money they digs you know I don't even want to discuss it Cold hard cash Sir Simon Bennett in Ipswich, Suffolk. Hold on let me give Dame Francine a little karma. Oh yes it's nice to have her back absolutely. You've got karma

1:46:49 Simon Bennett Nipswich, Suffolk UK $250. It's been a while since I coughed up some support for the Brexit result gave me that gentle nudge i needed to level up The brexit result also gives me hope for the future of my country as long as I stay out of face bag OMG! Not being on Facebook, I'm assuming there was a lot of interesting chit-chatter on those. Everybody's an expert that's what it is everybody's an expert Plus there's all that additional show much material that we all know is coming Thanks for all you do and give him a karma You've got karma Okay Mr.. Bernie Atoma Atom

1:47:45 23456 from Hinton, Iowa. My son... Oh he's got his birthday call I also hit my good friend Vladimir Landman from Sioux City, Iowa in the mouth last year and he has been donating $50 each month for the last several months and requested a de-douching which i think was missed so please dedouche him. You've been DEDOUCHED! With the 4th of July imminent, please play the Gitmo Nation National Anthem. Now we're at the end of the show! God's blessing Sir Bernie." Okay... We'll put it at the end of this show. Okay now I get one of these hugely long notes which makes it almost impossible to read on my thing Tony Cabrera in Hawthorne California and I think I may have missed one here did I miss? Let me see... Yes, Sir Rod Adams yes! Yeah yeah I can't see right is Sir Rod that overwrote

1:48:42 So, let's start reading his note. How much did he donate? I don't have that on my... $200 associate executive producer. It's been a long while since I've contributed either money or news so i'm still listening and enjoying but it's been a busy time recently keeps me meaning to get around to donating and then wake up on shows they realize I missed another 12 am deadline! I did that again but if you happen to check your PayPal records you can slide me in for this late associate producer mention for today show with no problem No problem especially especially for nights we do this In addition to some important new pieces on atomic insights about the importance of nuclear energy for human prosperity, I've recently...

1:49:21 Become a contributing author at Forbes. My first month of piecesofforbes.com have been included in news about important paper on the health effects of low-level radiation, the corrupt deal made between PG&E and RDC and FOE to close Diablo Canyon well before it's close to the end of its useful life, and predictions about the effect of Brexit on the UK's nuclear energy industry." And we'd like to congratulate Sir Rod with that first and foremost. That's great Shield at fortune yes, hey can you can you have them like not block me if I have my ad blocker on? Put me on the white list

1:50:01 You can get there's a way to getting through that. Anyway, P.S., now about the... He said thanks for the good work. Now about the peeves part? Okay here we go so he's got a gripe So let's hear him out John has made several very bigoted comments on at least two different shows about officers in the US Navy Apparently his opinion is based on a brief encounter with a single poor example when he was an air pollution inspector many decades ago. As a retired US Naval officer, I retired in 2010 as a commander who spent 33 years living and working with naval officers, I'm annoyed! Annoyed!! It would be difficult to find better examples of dedicated intelligent interesting hard-working patriotic leaders anywhere my daughter and her husband are both lieutenant commanders

1:50:51 My grandfather was lieutenant commander in the US Navy, in World War II. Oh! Was he a captain? Lieutenant Commander No, captain of a ship you can be a lieutenant commander and be a captain... No, he was lieutenant commander no captain Okay so he never... He did not steer the ship Anyway, he goes on and I just want to stop here because it's all as far as we need to really go. Okay let's get a couple of things... What was his problem? What did you say what were you so bigoted about? I said they're A-holes captains of most of these ships are A-holes they act like A-holes they're arrogant condescending jerks now

1:51:33 Now, Rod here seems to have a... being in the Navy, Navy man. Although I don't know if he was ever a captain of a ship. Rod? No, right? I think Rod was the commander of a submarine Oh! Okay well then he'd be a captain if he were... He's the boss. He is the captain of my ship First of all, what I was bitching about the Navy guys is that they're condescending and arrogant. So let's see what he says... Oh! Let me read this Apparently his opinion is based on a brief encounter with a single poor example when he was an air pollution inspector. That's an interesting assumption to make, how about like 25 guys? I was in air pollution inspector for almost eight years! I ran into these Navy guys over and over again it's very condescending on you to assume that it was one example that I'm generalizing from. I am generalizing from 20 plus examples

1:52:33 Every one of these guys, now most of them I have to say were like commander rank a commander but they're captains of an oiler or some piece of crap that they used to park out here in the San Francisco Bay. They'd always blow their stacks and went illegally at noontime which is a good time when you still working but they thought everyone's at lunch so let's do it then. Then you go on board, they roll their eyes oh another government goon coming on just to give me a ticket and it was over and over again extreme arrogance. I brought it up to the rank and file of the group, many of whom were ex-Navy. One guy in particular one of the hot shots was a chief petty officer at that time when he was in the Navy and he said oh yeah those guys are all like that they're all a bunch of arrogant assholes! And thats where this comes from. It doesn't come from

1:53:21 And again, this is very condescending. It does not come from a single poor example and this is what all you're doing Rod is reflecting what I'm talking about because that is extremely condescending to say that I'm bringing it up as a generality from a single poor example This is not a single example done John C Devorah X Peppy Bubday! And thanks for your contribution Sir Rod Wow, better give him some karma. He needs a big heap of karma now You've got karma well my experience with lieutenant commanders was fine I love my grandfather he was great But he didn't drive the ship nor did he park it um There's nothing like someone railing against the Navy and part of that is they parked the ship It's just you know more maybe but Park That was great

1:54:16 I don't know this for sure, but I think they still have to use pilots even the Navy. Unless they have Navy pilots that... Well you know what? But in Rod's defense military in general along with police even EMS fire all these types of services But are no longer kept on the or put on the pedestal the way they used to be and the way I believe They most of them deserved to be So it's there's a constant pounding against all all things military so big you know And and I'm happy that when he needed to vent evented in the family that makes me have yes fine Yeah, I mean if is everybody in his family. They're old Navy yeah, I mean I know a lot of Navy guys are fantastic and as an aside

1:53:21 And again, this is very condescending. It does not come from a single poor example and this is what all you're doing Rod is reflecting what I'm talking about because that is extremely condescending to say that I'm bringing it up as a generality from a single poor example This is not a single example done John C Devorah X Peppy Bubday! And thanks for your contribution Sir Rod Wow, better give him some karma. He needs a big heap of karma now You've got karma well my experience with lieutenant commanders was fine I love my grandfather he was great But he didn't drive the ship nor did he park it um There's nothing like someone railing against the Navy and part of that is they parked the ship It's just you know more maybe but Park That was great

1:54:16 I don't know this for sure, but I think they still have to use pilots even the Navy. Unless they have Navy pilots that... Well you know what? But in Rod's defense military in general along with police even EMS fire all these types of services But are no longer kept on the or put on the pedestal the way they used to be and the way I believe They most of them deserved to be So it's there's a constant pounding against all all things military so big you know And and I'm happy that when he needed to vent evented in the family that makes me have yes fine Yeah, I mean if is everybody in his family. They're old Navy yeah, I mean I know a lot of Navy guys are fantastic and as an aside

1:55:06 Then I said that purposely. It took me several years to understand... You ran off our list? Yeah, it took me several years To get used to your critiques Sometimes after the show you'll go well this is stupid! I don't like that never do this and instead of-I had to learn No no no no don't tell them its my personal experience its MY experience It took me a while to learn You know, that doesn't mean you're mad at me for the rest of the day or anything. It's like we vent and we're done and move on. Be in this same conversation. Okay? We're done. Agree disagree point counterpoint can be loud can be vocal can contain F words And were done and move on I like that a lot by the way If only the world would like that Hey! This is bull crap but don't think it's up. Bum bum bum bum bum And okay good we are done Move on We are pros

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2:00:06 And by the way, we're talking about Navy personnel real heavy on the by-the-ways today. Oh Jeez that's a guy put down on the high on the list that's terrible yes anyways Also blame the movies I mean you got Mr. Roberts, great movie that depicts the captain of that ship as a complete A-hole and then there's the one where Humphrey Bogart plays the maniac, the psycho which for some reason eludes me their name I've got to take two vitamin B12s but you know i'm not the only one who who's seen Navy captains as... No we got your points it was okay, the rant was good

2:01:03 Okay, I'm not gonna. I don't want to ruin it no okay onward yeah Do we want to continue to talk about the brexit? We have any more? I'm kind of done I'm kind of done with the Brexit for now unless there's anything really important Yeah, you can play this one This is France 24 we didn't play any their clips they had an Oxford professor mm-hmm on the show It kind of explained the way he saw things and it was pretty reasonable in the French girl Was kind of like befuddled by the whole thing this isn't France 24 on dumb Brits My view is that yes, we didn't win on that one and the other issues he put on the table were important issues. The immigration issue was important and I for example do believe that if the EU had shown a little bit more flexibility

2:01:49 And thought of the possibility, say, of adding a subparagraph to Article 45 of the treaty which deals with free movement. If it had said look actually we'll have a second paragraph and member states may under certain circumstances introduce their own domestic measures without prejudice to the principles of this article… The emergency break that David Cameron got for seven years he could… He didn't get an emergency break! For a period of seven years he could limit social welfare benefits to EU workers? That's not an emergency break you know what was the right to control immigration. He got the right to vary welfare benefits and so on, and I just think that it's not just for the UK. I just think there are countries around Europe who would have benefited from a little bit more flexibility in interpretation of Article 45 or those days... That's gone now. But when you look at a lot of people saying,

2:02:43 Are these immigrants to the UK necessarily a bad thing? They pay more in taxes than they take in benefits. It's sheer numbers, it's sheer numbers! Do you know what we are now? We have had in the last 10 years 4 or 5 million extra people in this country not all by way But how many people have left Britain as well? Oh no I'm talking about net population increase That's not all from immigration. I mean, births and basically population as you know is around the world. Births, deaths plus or minus immigration that's how you calculate but there is no way this country can handle that sort of thing if we had in France had population density levels the same as we have you would have a hundred million people extra in France that is reality. So something has to change but will leaving

2:03:31 Anyway, yeah, we're dumb brits. But this was one of the complaints I One of the complaints I heard over and over which is that the guy that there was just too many it was Is not is the guy one guy said look we could have 50 000 doctors coming over but there's no place to put them There's not We'd have to be we can't build hospitals fast enough To put the doctor give him anything to do And it was just an overload which is again what david brooks said too It's just an overload That was the immigration problem who they were, it was the sheer number. It's also who they were... There is an element of that I don't know why they don't like the Polish but... Well because many reasons The main reason true or not is the polish are taking away you know cheap labor market That's what they say

2:04:30 Well, it's still quite... I think the whole thing is definitely something to discuss. Yeah! I'll say. Okay can we move to a new topic? Yeah if you want. Judge Andrew Napolitano Fox said something he was on Outnumbered that's the show where there's one guy and a whole bunch of women Yeah, which I like. It's crazy. You're talking about a sexist idea! Well yeah of course if you did outnumbered and did the other way around it would be World War III That would actually be funnier Or have one black person surrounded by whites or different versions of the show. Not a bad format He said something about the Orlando shooting

2:05:22 I had to go back and really study what he was talking about, to see if i agreed with his assertion. Here's the clip. How many omissions were there? Was there one? Well then it could explain that one-off scenario that they originally talked about It is nearly impossible to tell This was not a one off Right These are in two parts There's an actual transcript And then there's a summary of the rest Here's what news In the summary Nobody died Until 513 in the morning when the SWAT team entered prior to that No one had been killed though 53 there were injured and the 49 that were murdered all met their fates At the time of and during the police entry into the building Wow we've been yeah, yeah So I went back and this is now. This was we by the way oh

2:06:10 I'll take credit for this. You said by the way, I've always thought that police kill most of the people we said this several times Yeah, yeah We talked about it but this is ridiculous nobody died this is by the way right there Yeah, I'm gonna since we changed topics a whole thing you did your job at transitioning. Yeah? Yeah what what what what this by the way What yeah, you know what So I went back and had to look at the timeline from the official, uh... The two- the redacted and other transcript. You really have to put the two together.

2:06:54 The bullets, all those bullets that went off at once during the one guy was recording the five SWAT team shootings. Yeah I don't know what it was called... Well okay but i went back and looked at transcripts and trying to figure out how Napolitano came to this conclusion Here's the timeline I'm reading directly from the document it's marked up in the show notes 837.noagendanotes.com At 2 o'clock AM, Orlando Police Department call transmitted multiple shots fired at Pulse nightclub two minutes later Certainly not time enough to kill 49 people. At 204 AM, additional OPD officers arrive on scene 208 AM Officers from various law enforcement agencies made entrance the pulse and engage the shooter Then at 218 So that was it must have been 10 minutes there

2:07:54 Then there's a whole bunch, then there is the phone call and then there are some transcripts. 248 the first crisis negotiation call for 9 minutes 303 the second call 324 the third crisis call in these calls he identified himself so they were on the phone with him continuously from 248 until continuing until 5 14 a.m.. This is if their timeline is correct, which I'm going to presume it is Just before that they pull the air conditioner and they start saving people and then at 429 The shooter said he was going to put four vests with bombs on victims within the next 15 minutes He said there's a car outside that's gonna blow up and then at 502 a.m

2:08:47 OPD SWAT, O-C-S-O Hazardous Device Team started to breach the wall with explosive charge. Armored vehicle to make entry 514 AM OPD radio communication stated that shots were fired so there was between 502 when they breached the wall and 514 shots were being fired Based on... here it is Here's a line that makes all of this you know because you just don't know if what was happening in between these timeline entry points Based on Orlando Police Department radio communications, there were no reports of shots being fired inside Pulse between the initial exchange of gunfire between responding officers and shooter and the time of the final breach. During this time, the shooter communicated with an OPD 911 operator, an OPD crisis negotiator, and OPD radio communications reported that victims were being rescued." So they're saying that from the time they engaged the shooter

2:09:48 To when they killed him no shots were fired at all do I think the judge has a point here? I think you may have their whole thing there. Yeah, so You know some somebody's got some splaining to do on that well It's not gonna happen and also just finally the there were multiple reports of that Omar Mateen was frantically searching the internet for psychosis, results of psychotic drugs etc. So as we always see or almost always see in these types of events

2:10:38 You know there's a when you have an SSRI involved it stuff that makes people really nutty and we've done A lot of these going back to Columbine. A lot of these shooters are on psychotropic drugs something Yeah, which is it? Which is a real problem Wow yeah That's dynamite. Yeah I know you won't hear that anyplace else the same way you heard it on Fox I mean It's not as though nobody's heard this but no Nobody else is nobody else will propagate it It makes sense to me. Like I said this when we had that clip of those shootings, all that gunfire it was thousands of bullets flying around if you were in there you're gonna get hit by something There was just too much going on. I don't want to sound like a jerk about the police but i can almost imagine in some jurisdictions that someone would say hey what do you wanna go shoot some gays?

2:11:43 Reminds me of a clip. I gotta play this for you So you said famously at this point the few shows ago, and you talked about the gays which Donald Trump, but you know obviously listener Gaze picked up the gaze in Milo Jan Flappadupilis, the gay Republican from Britain. How could you get any crazier? He is crazy that guy! He is a really good public speaker Yes well here he is on... one of my gripes of course is this whole... and the president just

2:12:25 bestowed the Stonewall as a national monument. The Stonewall is where there were riots and gays, lesbians, transsexuals were killed there so now this has become...this is now a national monument And then it's always for the LGBT community and I have a huge issue with that because first of all its exclusionary because LGBT would be lesbian gay bisexual and trans Where's the bi curious? Where's the queer where's all that other stuff I mean it does not sum up everybody It just doesn't some everybody up and within these groups. There's all kinds of issues amongst themselves They are far from an actual community like well, I'll tell you a second Here's Milo with what you should really say instead of LGBT or LGBTQ

2:13:17 Q or LGBTQQIAAAP, he suggests… After you appeal to the gays, or you can call them queers. You can call them chutney punchers. You can call them bum bandits. You can call them any number of things we do not use the phrase LGBTQ community my god! There ya have it from The Gay Himself Proof Wow I'll have to tell this to uh...my critics and just one more thing about the word community

2:13:59 No agenda is a community, but if you looked at all the people individually no way would they fit in the classic sense of the word community. We have different ages different races different beliefs different religions Different political views all kind very very different But the community comes around one particular It's to show really that community comes around and that is a true community where we're not all you know a version of homosexual. So I agree, this community is overused! What is the definition of community really? Why don't you look that up while I ask the rhetorical question... This was Gay Day here or the weekend, gay pride weekend and there was start off on Friday with the transgender march and then there was a gay pride parade in there so what was Obama doing in town? Was he in town

2:14:58 He was in town on Friday as far as I know. Celebrating? I think he left on Saturday, but is here for some reason or other. Definition of community a group of people who live in the same area city town or neighborhood yes I think that's a classic definition A group of people who have the same interests race religion etc Yes But LGBT the L the B and G and T all have different interests It could also be a group of nations or a unified body of individuals. But commonly, it is the people with common interests living in a particular area so... but it doesn't even really fit when you think about it." Good because I'm tired of hearing it. Yeah, you've been- You've made that quite clear over the last four or five shows. Yeah! But I'm still interested. Good, I'm glad to hear that. All right, I got one.

2:15:57 If I can find it up, but about Bob. This is kind of interesting this is a one to one story follows the other on democracy now. I just found this to be a fascinating one too punch this first clip is Sanders last stand on homeless kids. This is Bernie Sanders is now out there really ranting about one thing or another that's very important to him and I thought this was a good rant we cannot allow ourselves to become used that we got hundreds of thousands of children in this country who are homeless. That is our greatest danger becoming used to it and thinking that is normal, It's not normal! It is an outrage

2:16:46 And never ever lose your sense of outrage. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa! So then they go on to just a follow-up, because they just do their organization at that place. The news pace and flow is really awkward. This goes right onto this clip here which is just like oh since we've been talking about elites let's play this! Meanwhile a number of business leaders have come out backing Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton among those backers are Facebook Sheryl Sandberg and Warren Buffett as well as the CEOs of General Motors Delta Air

2:17:33 airlines, Airbnb AT&T and Boeing. Wow! I give you Bernie Sanders. Oh gee that's not just a vocal support i'm sure wow i wonder if there's any money involved in that oh yes we need to read this although you may have already seen it We may have talked about it, if you wanted Hillary Clinton to speak at your bank. Her agency or booking agent which was the Harry Walker Agency is that a literary agent as well?

2:18:15 No, that's a speaking... I actually worked for them. I've worked for Harry Walker. Great operation! Well sure have you seen this message they send if you want to have her come do a speech? It's been floating around yeah i gotta kick out of it So just read a couple of highlights You should read the whole thing it's dynamite Okay well good now this interesting about this is the timeline This is dated May 31st 2013 only a few months after she left She left, of course in February after the inauguration as Secretary of State. So this request had already come in I'm sure it was not the first one so thank you very much for your possible invitation from Secretary Clinton participating your upcoming event here's the standard requirements for her appearances and the fee for this type of event excuse me the fee for this type of event

2:19:05 would be $225,000 plus a chartered round-trip private jet hotel accommodations ground transportation any meals and incidentals for Secretary Clinton her travel aids and advanced staff as detailed below. So let's take a look at these air transportation the host will be responsible for the costs associated with a chartered round trip private air transportation which must be a Gulfstream 450 or larger Wow. Yeah, that's a nice aircraft. And listen I want to stop you right now and remind people that when Hillary was asked why she got so much money from Goldman Sachs 225 thousand is listed here Why she got so much money? Her answer was That's what they offered No! That is a lie The offer is clearly stated in the letter

2:20:00 Uh, so the transportation of the jet which must be paid in advance of event. In addition, the host will need to pay for one round trip first class airfare between New York and Washington DC for one of Secretary Clinton's travel aids might be UMA The host will also need to pay for two round-trip business class airfare to and from the event city, for two advanced staffers who arrive in the City of Engagement for up to three business days prior to the event. Accommodations... Hotel accommodations which will be ones identified by Secretary Clinton's staff accommodation should include a presidential suite for Secretary Clinton then up to three adjoining or contiguous single rooms for travel aids and up to 2 additional single rooms for the advance staff

2:20:42 And by the way, for a couple of days... and I said by the way. Damn it! For presidential suite is like 30 grand a night. Certainly if someone else is paying for it Then there's meals and incidentals So responsible for all ground transportation for the secretary her aids and advanced staff as long as phone charges cell phones meals everything Here's a very interesting little ditty transcription The host will be responsible for a flat fee of $1,000 for the services of the on-site stenographer who will be responsible for creating an immediate transcript of Secretary Clinton's remarks. The agency will coordinate all of the arrangements for the stenographer We'll be unable to share copy of the transcript following the event." So that's nice we know that apparently transcripts were made so here is itinerary she does in two basic blocks when she participates in event total time 90 minutes

2:21:39 30 minute photo line reception not to exceed 50 photos with up to 100 people That's move them through that's like the Queen the Queen of England does that exactly the same then this secretary will Hold a 20-minute speech plus a 40-minute moderated Q&A for a total of 60 minutes. So her speech, should we ever see a transcript will only be 20 minutes and it's going to be a stock speech filling in the blanks different joke at the beginning different joke in the middle a different goodbye or transition that's the way I see you've done more of these than I have John so I'm saying twenty minute speeches what is a twenty minute speech? My goodness

2:22:21 We don't even get into the news before 20 minutes of the show has passed. So the order of the tiers is up to your preference, but the location of the photo line must be in close proximity to the room where the speech takes place and they have two blocks have to be contiguous. We have limited flexibility with regard to the format for appearance accordingly Secretary Clinton will not be able to join for meals or other functions or engagements outside the photo reception speech in the Q&A which is understandable because man is that annoying when you have to do that? You go to a speech like we got dinner... Then there's some rules about who can introduce her, when the team will show up and then you know please let me know. But once you're ready to proceed with a formal invitation please take a moment to complete the attached questionnaire email it back to me as an earlier the approval process can take a couple of weeks but in order to respond we must your invitation

2:23:20 Let me see. To ensure this opportunity is considered in a time-efficient manner, it is important that every financial and in kind sponsor contributing to the fee or receiving a non-financial benefit for example getting the opportunity to introduce Secretary Clinton or moderate the Q&A be submitted during the invitation stage so it all has to be you know... It's like a big proposal now um for celebrities of her stature she definitely is a celebrity I think It is pretty much on par for a big celebrity who's out to make a crap load of money Famously Bill Cosby would do three events in an evening in New York City He would walk from one to the other and this isn't now we're talking the 80s he Would get paid $100,000 go to the next one You know turn the chair around talk for an hour another hundred thousand dollars And you can you do three hundred thousand dollars in a night? I don't think it's

2:24:14 crazy money in the world, in this type of world for a celebrity to be paid that. But for the amount of work... This is what the issue is and what she may or may not have said but you're gonna find out that most people say holy crap really? 20 minutes? You got paid for this? Not taking into account the Q&A and whatever else might've gone on but there are transcripts because someone paid $1000 dollars to have a transcript made so they definitely are available Well, I think it's very high. You do? Yes, I do. Hmm... I think it is to the point ... well for a while Bill Clinton was doing $250 and then all of sudden he jacked up to $500 and God knows what else there is no doubt in my mind that the amount of money being collected and all the extra work that goes into you know a thirty thousand dollar hotel room this is a bribe

2:25:12 As far as I'm concerned. Well, I'm not going to disagree. It's just okay this is the way she's gonna get her money and it's like oh let's go through Harry Walker so they get... Harry Walker gets a piece of that. Absolutely! And i think most speakers bureaus take 20 percent although they're probably negotiated lower because Hillary needs the money more but this is a bribe Speaking of bribes, and this may answer some of our questions about elites. Fifi Lagarde was interviewed on BBC's Hard Talk. Stop! Hold on... Elite. She is an elite? Yes I just want to tell you she is an elite if you didn't know. Yeah that what I said. She is an elite

2:26:01 And BBC Hard Talk did some hard talk, very proud of the questions asked. Because she's not entirely clean, there is a lot of scandal floating around Miss Lagarde at the International Monetary Fund who by the way is quite vocally said all the economists say do not leave, do not Brexit It's crazy. You're just crazy, why would you go against all of- Why would you go against all these different economists? No, you can't do that So couple clips You say your trying to work here at the IMF and talk about the need for global leadership Let me ask you a very personal question How much tax do you pay on your salary

2:26:41 Like all IMF staff members and all World Bank staff members, we are tax exempt. And that is taken into account for the purpose... But I do pay tax don't worry because.. Yeah no but your salary is tax exempt and I know it's not because you insisted it'd be that way It's always been that way but Now do you know why this is tax? She's gonna explain Do you have any idea why her salaries taxes? I'm riveted The bottom line is this if you are to be a leader on this and it sounds to me as though You have the passion and you want to be a leader That's going to have to change. Aren't you going to have to make a stand and say, it is not acceptable? To be a leader and send the message that says I want everybody else to pay tax but actually I don't pay tax. You should pay tax shouldn't you? First of all I do pay tax in France. Not on your IMF salary though.

2:27:30 other matters. wherever located in the world. It's to avoid that under the pressure and under the authority of local tax people, then they be asked to move in one direction or the other and this tax independence if you will is factored in the determination of compensation

2:28:07 you know, arguing for it. It's been around for 70 years in the case of the IMF many more years for other institutions. Should it? Do think there should be a change? Otherwise otherwise you fall prey to whatever those local government where the institutions have a seat actually decide to do against you yeah I just wonder whether you can see my point that there is a bit of a perception problem with leaders such as yourself preaching the message that tax avoidance has to end and yet... Well, what the only thing that would be compatible with the principle which is critically important. That there'd be no pressure applied by the local authorities where these organizations have their seat would be some international measures that could apply across-the-board irrespective of the local authorities and thus precisely the point that is wrong about taxation by the way everything is global except tax Oh!

2:29:00 Whoa, nice little kicker at the end. Huh? Yeah, it's almost like a threat So what I hearing she says her saying is be the IMF and just kind of saying that that people are would be corrupted Because they might make decisions for or against their own personal situation Is that what I understood yeah, I think it was also they could be intimidated They could be it would be a form of threat It is some form of manipulating them Now, let's stop. Where is the IMF located? Washington DC. I thought it was in Manhattan. No, Washington DC they if you look at where they're really located they are very close to the Treasury They have eyes on The White House and they have eight floors underground or something like that some crazy-ass building

2:29:53 So who is this local authority? She makes it sound like they've got an office in Podunk, Peru in the mountains someplace and the locals are gonna take their money. Right unless they you know cough up something This is nonsense No but what I liked the most was her little kicker at the end It's like oh this a problem local tax we should have a global tax that's what we need yes Yeah well that's the plan Fifi had some problems when she was finance minister to France. There were some issues about something she did for a buddy of hers... Right now, the French court has ordered you to face trial on a charge of negligence involving a complicated

2:30:33 payment to a leading French businessman during the time you were French finance minister in the administration of Nicolas Sarkozy. It just strikes me, in the context of everything we've discussed about leadership, about integrity, about sending the right messages to the world about the best that global capitalism can be that it's very difficult for you to continue in this job when you might be summoned to a trial in Paris? No, it's not and I function very well, and I'm very grateful for the trust that has been expressed to me by this unanimous support of the international community. The court decision has been appealed the matter will take its course, the lawyers are doing their job... ...I know that there is nothing wrong that will be held against me. Okie dokie! You're starting to get a picture why people don't like the elites

2:31:22 Now, to top... Glibly says no problem. It's almost like the guy in the Monty Python movie. No it just a scratch. Just a silly walk. His arm is chopped off. Just a scratch! Uh now to compete with your outstanding Hillary Clinton find So I made a mistake that happens it proves I'm human Yeah which of course proves she's a lizard. Now do you think Lagarde is a lizard? Oh definitely. Don't let the bastards get you. And that's what I mean by having a thick crocodile skin, but the nice thing is that you can take it off. Whoa! Aha! She can take it off?

2:32:24 I want to thank Joong-Li Jat, by the way our producer for putting this together for me. He did the clips and everything on it. Tightened up a couple of them but it was great really appreciated excellent Here's the final one This is well...this is regarding the Panama Papers Boston Consulting Group reckoned that private wealth booked in offshore centers grew by 7% in 2014 as we're going back a bit To reach 11 trillion dollars So that's money that is not being taxed, that is not going through the state national governments to pay for roads and hospitals and education because it has been squirreled away offshore and taxes are not being paid. Is in your view time to get together with national governments with leaders around the world to close down

2:33:09 highly secretive tax havens, whether they be in the Caribbean, the Channel Islands, statelets in Europe wherever they may be. You know I remember 2010 when I was finance minister for France and together with the president at that time we launched that campaign And it was a very difficult one of trying to eradicate some of those tax heavens. Well, thus far it has been said a total and utter failure. No I disagree with you. I disagree with the – I'll tell you why because many governments not all but many governments at the time endorsed the project and said okay we need to deal with this

2:33:47 And what is called BEPS, which is this funny – not so funny – base erosion and profit shifting project has been undertaken. It has been endorsed by many economies applies to corporates in the main and I think that's an area where it needs to be made universal as should be made universal the automatic exchange of information between countries but the problem with it is that everybody has to be part of it Because if you have little holes in the system, well creative thinkers and tax optimizers – and there are plenty of those – they have great minds and great imaginations will find ways to close those holes. It needs global leadership doesn't it? So it needs global leadership, it needs to be totally comprehensive and it needs to include the implementation arm of it because I'll tell you we are doing a lot of work in that area when we do technical assistance on anti-money laundering

2:34:41 New world order global taxes Global financial system yeah, that's gonna be a while Yeah But at least you know where the elites are really headed what they're thinking of course they would they don't only needs a little piece of that action It's no matter stealing money from the public Anyway, I will see we got it. Well. No I think we need to take a break oh Yeah, we need to take a break. We need to take a break and our breaks are where we thank people who supported our program. We support it with monetary because we do not take advertising money. We also don't have to sell products to you in order to make money I told folks that were going to sell out of Living Defense which is the ultimate parasite detoxer with 27 known ingredients to flush out safely and healthily parasites, you name it

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2:38:47 A dune in Florida, 5008. Joel Blazek in Reno California, 8008 for Eric. Yeah it was I had the Sarah Silverman clip and so I said there's a perfect place for boob she went on and on about one of her things. Yeah, I figure somebody's gonna click on that. Wesley Forney in Las Cruces New Mexico 7373 Ashley Burton in London UK 6969 Andrew Moran in Dunstan we have a lot of UK Islanders here on this 6749 in Staffordshire

2:39:28 Eric Grunewald in... God knows what this is pronounced as. Okay, Eric Grunewald in... Oh! Ah, this was a good note. Eric Grunewald in IJzerfontein which is in South Africa You saw the note about the Table Mountain? Yeah we talked about it on the last show No no his note was that The Table Mountain uh is in Johannesburg What did we say? Something else I'd come on. Did you I said oh, no? That was it. I thought it was in Cape Town No yeah, I have the email here It's important that we correct these things let me see ah crap. I thought You I thought you would have seen this and I didn't have to get this well I know we talked about table mom But I thought it wasn't Johannesburg not I'm not as very good Cape town is in Johannesburg And they were lit he was in the car with his kids

2:40:24 And they were driving in Johannesburg as we were talking about this and the kids are going hey, he's wrong He's wrong make that wonder why I made that mistake. I don't know all right Onward, we now know the difference. I will look it up to confirm that of course because now beside myself for being wrong David Groff on Cincinnati Ohio says 6180 and this is a Fibonacci number 6180 Sir Benjamin Ritgers in Ames Iowa 6116 he sent a note in let's see what his note says

2:41:07 Note, thank you dear John and Adam. Thank you for your quality analysis The show is worth more than I can donate please accept this check And please send home buying karma as they close on my first house Friday We put that before yet the home-buying karma it is yes Ryan perch person chilly purse persist chilly persistently some what do you think? It's a tough one. Persitually, I think it has to be Rosenberg Texas 56-78 Chris Abraham in Arlington Virginia 55-55 James Allen Ladeburg in Rijstatt Norway

2:41:54 5510, Matt Seaver in Knoxville Tennessee. Double nickels on the dime for him Josh McDonald same thing parts unknown Australia James Smith and Ottawa Ontario Canada $55 sir Eric VM Van Nuys California 53 54 Eric whistle Dyke or Wesel Dyke? Wessel Dyke I think it's a wessel dyke in Portage Michigan Paul St. Laurent in Renton, Washington 5033 Bill Hudick I love the name of this town Timonium Missouri or Maryland Timonium Maryland Timonium it sounds like an element on the periodic table 5033 Miles Mundy and Laura's Sackville Nova Scotia 505 Joe Schwartz Bauer in Florissant Missouri

2:42:49 Adam DeMuy in Milton, Florida. I think I got that right? Miles Comer in Buckeye Arizona. Baroness Monica Lansing in Drayton Valley Alberta. Thank you. Keith Powell in Swansea UK Donald Napierre in Oviedo Florida Brian Evans parts unknown Shad Rich and You Know Where parts unknown Peter Morris in Elmhurst, New York. Oh and finally last but not least the anonymous lesbian is back with us! And she sent a complaining note which I will read but it's actually a great note She's from the LGBTQ community That's what she tells us Anonymous lesbian is not man overboard

2:43:42 On the contrary, I have never been more appreciative of the show. It's true that i am broke but I would rather be broke and enlightened than wealthy and a zombie sheeple! My career as a concert violinist has actually started to explode and there is no doubt in my mind that this is And she, I will say this. I was sitting in the front room and our local classical music says they play classical music 24-7 in the house. Announced her! Oh really? Yeah. What's the name of the station? It's KDFC or something like that. Wait a minute... She didn't get it.

2:44:32 Beethoven by the anonymous lesbian. Man overboard! She says, okay in my mind there's no doubt that small part of her new success has to do with the mental hygiene I have gained from listening to No Agenda Now you're talking Thank you both for your courage and she's in with 50 and we want to thank her Thank You And yeah that was great So all these folks are very helpful to our very we thank everyone profusely including people with lesser amounts which came in lower For giving us a hand on this special show. This is a special show We actually announced pre-announced the topic what doesn't have a very row yeah, we so we also we got lots of people helping us with art and information you heard some clips and a couple jingles came in now I

2:45:25 I kind of vaguely remember you had asked, we need a jingle for... uh.. i've been saying it all along or we've been saying it all along. Do you recall this? No Well Brian Springer took it to heart and he teamed up with Joe Jack Talcum from the Dead Milkman To create this for us. Well I don't beat whores But I'm insane at all I just like that the dead milkman guy did something for us. That's cool, that's very cool. Alright everybody thank you very much as John mentioned another show coming up on Thursday!

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2:48:18 Poutine and rye whiskey so it was before that okay, they're in chronological order case you hadn't done How nice is that yeah? It's fantastic. I got a little ditty here because we are moving along here in the time This is just so you can get used to what's gonna happen when it comes to your social media We already see lots of news reports under reported here obviously about face bag and the tweeters removing any type of intolerant speech in the European Union, any kind of racist speech or anti-migrant speech. All of that's going to be removed and one of the companies that does this is Norex technology

2:49:08 So, advisor to the extremist... what is the CEP? The Committee for Extremist Prevention I think. That's Dr. Haney Faird He's an advisor to the government on what we do against- this is in United States now We're not talking about Europe Um..I believe that there's a NORAC system already Is in place for several of these large companies To remove child pornography from the internets Well, this is now going to be used for speech. Technology. I just want to point out he's a vocal fry, technology. That's right so we've developed technology over the last year that allows social media companies and technology companies to find and remove terrorist related content and this same technology has been used in the past to remove child pornography from sites And it's a very effective technology It works fully automatically it's efficient its accurate and it allows technology companies to effectively

2:50:12 enforce what is already in place, which is their terms of service. That this content is not allowed on the network and we are simply creating for them a mechanism to enforce that in an automatic efficient and accurate way." I just want to point out this mirrors The language in the net neutrality regulations is not allowed on the network. It's not legal, it's illegal content. Not allowed on the network also illegal network traffic. In an automatic efficient and accurate way A post comes up it stays online for awhile somebody reports that it comes down it pops up over here And we're saying once you've removed it, you now have technology to never allow it back on. So what's the pushback? What's the pushback then? You have to ask them that I don't know. I don't actually understand what the pushback is to be honest with ya. I dunno uh free speech maybe could that be some of the pushbacks? How does it work and how does it define... Who cares? What's the definition? Yeah that's the right question to ask

2:51:07 I think the role of the government here would be terrific as a broker. As an honest broker to bring in the academics, NGOs and technology companies. So he's saying, to determine what is not okay we need to bring in the government. ...broker to bring in the academics, the NGOs and technology companies together and create a sense of urgency on this problem so I can see them as being very important partner in this but at the end of day the technology company have to decide that no longer want this content our network it is harmful for the network it is harmful for society its harmful for world and we should eliminate

2:51:45 You will hear slippery slope arguments that if we do this, we will eventually ban videos of kittens. Which they made over child porn which is sort of stunning. It won't disclose that. It is true that when were deploying the... Say what? No, no, no. Slippery slope? This is like a false analogy! Oh then we're gonna ban kittens... this is nonsense that's not what's going to happen. That's how you write the whole thing off this guy should do it go over tumblr if you want to take care of something and keep yourself busy. Well that would be Yahoo I'm sure they'll be a customer. We will eventually ban videos of kittens. Which they made over child porn which was sort of stunning It is true that when we were deploying the child pornography technology we heard exactly the same concerns Which I found indefensible.

2:52:41 the child porn. This is nonsense, this guy's just ad-libbing! We are not talking about stifling speech we are not talking about stifling dissent we're talking about taking off videos that show violent beheadings that show calls to violence these are extreme as we call them the worst of the worst. We absolutely should have dissent on the internet which and so we have discussions on the internet but there is no place in my mind pictures and videos of young children being sexually assaulted, and of people having their heads chopped off. I think that's where we reasonably can draw the line That's not to say that we shouldn't have serious conversations about what does and what does not constitute extremist speech We do have to have a serious conversation about that And we have to have all the players at the table

2:53:24 Can't wait. What is extremist speech? What could it be, who's gonna determine what you can and can say All I can say is come together and say Let's get social! Social! Let's get social! Social! Let's get social! Social media Now normally I would normally complain about you producing a segment using one of our things for the punchline, but you know. I love that song! I have to admit there was a chat room suggestion and I know then it makes it worse doesn't it? Makes it worse yes

2:54:14 Let's see. I got one thing here, it might be my last clip. Okay? Uh...I just thought you remember Trump early on in his thing he fired one of his guys a long time ago and this guy kept showing up on TV Yeah it was the guy who was really nice about it like yeah he was all fine. Apparently that works so well That we're now gonna have Lewandowski or whatever this guy's name is. Let play the Lewandowski clip I went all brother these are these networks so stupid to buy into this Meanwhile, the former Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski has been hired by CNN as a political commentator He was fired Tuesday

2:54:56 He was charged with battery in March after surveillance footage showed him grabbing reporter Michelle Fields. Fields, said Lewandowski left bruises on her arm the charges were later dropped Wow put the shill right into the lion's den fantastic unbelievable oh man they're dumb They're dumb. Fantastic Lewandowski is just a total shill stooge I mean whether he's even really fired or who has given this assignment That's great, that was great Yeah it made my day I'll play my last clip I saw it mentioned several times luckily someone was able to clip it because it wasn't easy to find This is Charlie Rangel He's uh... Is he a senator or congressman? Rangel He's a congressman who was censored

2:55:45 censored by the Congress. Censured or censored? Censured! What does that mean, you gotta shut up? It means he was not allowed to... it doesn't really mean anything legally but it does mean that he's snubbed because he broke a bunch of rules. Like a grown-up version of timeout? Only probably worse. He was caught by the journalist in the halls And talking about guns, of course. Oh before we... Before I play the clip-I'm so sorry this is very importante We got a great email from our insider, our Republican staffer in Washington So this was no agenda producer who was a staffer I have no idea what he or she... Who he or she works for but definitely for a Republican and sent some thoughts Insider thoughts from the sitin that Democrats did

2:56:41 And we're periscoping out on the interwebs. John Adam, a few quick insights on the gun bills First off due to the sit-in forcing Ryan to go ahead and wrap up the week in the middle of the night I got two extra days of recess Most of my office went home early Thursday and then on Friday We spent most of the day watching movies so hats off to my dem colleagues for providing the break from works hashtag love and light secondly As John stated on Thursday, the main bill that was being called for was the no-fly bill. This bill failed in the Senate on Tuesday with 53 Republican votes. In other words it failed because it received no support from the Senate Democrats! So their own party didn't even support the bill. No one in the media has mentioned this therefore of course it was dead on arrival in the House even if there was a vote

2:57:31 Which there couldn't have been because the sister bill in the House failed to pass in committee. The media also does not report on this, but what's interesting is that while the asks from the protesters were all over the place and it seemed terribly unorganized... What we discovered from colleagues on the other side was that the DNC had a massive and somewhat organized mailing campaign during the 25-hour protests for donations Our colleagues said they nailed their fundraising quota for the quarter overnight! And that's what it was all about. Suckers! Big-ass suckas

2:58:07 So Charlie Rangel is asked about citizens having guns for protection. He's from New York, so the question is hey or actually the statement from the reporters you'll hear it's very hard to get a concealed carry license in New York The only people who seem able to get are celebrities powerful politicians and other people who have bribed the police department is basically her assertion Rangels answer particularly at the end was very interesting A New York City concealed carry permit is so rare and the only people who tend to get it are the very connected, very wealthy or if you happen to know the right guy in NYPD he'll help you. Now that's wrong but I know what you're trying to say corruption is corruption its bad okay but like let's talk about that for a second why should say

2:58:58 The uber wealthy who have protection, have that protection but individuals or law abiding citizens in your district should not. Well law-abiding citizens just shouldn't have to carry a gun you know that so you're not going to push me in that direction But you're protected by guns all over the place here in the capital Well that's a little different I think we deserve...I think we need to be protected down here Yeah he corrected himself but we know what he was thinking We deserve protection Yeah, definitely said definitely Definitely a douchebag. That's how they're thinking I think we've done it pretty good description of Elites today on the show John I feel pretty big so yeah, I feel like you're pretty good about that We should feel good about the whole thing always feeling good mental hygiene Okay, we have a special for the streamers there will be a Daniel loose

2:59:58 Song here in the in the final bits, but we may not put it in the final edit of a show just so you know John I can hear your brains crunching. I Know I understand exactly what what you're thinking yeah? So Thank you all very much for tuning in especially on the stream record numbers today good to see y'all there continue Remembering us for your support at Dvorak org slash na we appreciate support that comes in all shapes forms Matters etc and I'll be back in the regular studio in the skyscraper Until then coming to you from the airstream of consciousness in McKinney Falls State Park for field day in the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry

3:00:50 And not from McKinney Park, but from Northern Silicon Valley. I'm John C. Dvorak We'll be back on Thursday right here on No Agenda Adios mofos! But at the end of the day they're backing him You know they're backing... come on At the end of the day? At the end of the day John If someone wants to get anyone They can get- At the end of the day? At the end of the day it's more important that we have entertainment At the end of the day. So, at the end of the day who's gonna pay for the real loan? It's gonna be taxpayer money! At the end of the day. Because at the end of the day that's going to be up to Valerie Jarrett. I mean, at the end of the day isn't that it?! But at the end of the day all this money is owed to bankers... At the end of the day, I think its good!!

3:01:52 At the end of the day, as Americans what we always do is we always say at the end of the day. So at the end of the day it's not actually the health care it's the...at the end of the day you can't deny I had to put less gas in. At the end of the day We're all anti-Semites at the end of the day. At the end of the day you get, I think it's 4% at the end of the day starts to run together at the end of the day and you kind of forget right? That...at the end of the day. You know John you and i are both in the audience business at the end of the day. So at the end of the day she could say hey! I told ya so! But I don't say at the end of the day, I said once I think ever

3:02:48 Ladies and gentlemen, please rise for your Gimmo Nation National Anthem. In the morning O'Nation We are all charged up to be Human resources and servants in all lands And all ships that cease to rest Down under to the lowlands 1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111

3:03:55 11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11 Next to the sausage stand, the conversation switched to national sovereignty. In amongst the cream teas one of the key referendum issues reared its head in an almost invisible manner. The sun has risen on an independent united kingdom. We may well be close perhaps to next century

3:05:02 Brexit. Audi's out. And I'm told the same may apply to Sweden and perhaps Austria, and perhaps even Italy. Audi is out. Independence Day. I declare independence day. Audi is out. I said before that Britain can survive outside the European Union and indeed we could find a way... Audi is out. Audi is out Adios, mofo.