Episode 83 · Wednesday, 25 March 2009

One Too Many Clips

The Obama administration rebrands overseas conflicts while Treasury Secretary Geithner faces a congressional firestorm over toxic asset bailouts and the future of the US dollar.

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President Barack Obama reaffirmed the dominance of the US dollar during a televised press conference, rejecting calls from China and Russia for a new global reserve currency. The administration officially retired the phrase Global War on Terror in favor of Overseas Contingency Operations, while a Pentagon memo instructed staff to avoid the term Long War. Observations of the press event highlighted a highly orchestrated environment where reporters utilized earpieces and the President relied on a central teleprompter setup.

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner faced scrutiny over the Public-Private Investment Program, which critics label a scam for using taxpayer funds to guarantee private investments in toxic assets. Representative Michelle Bachmann challenged Geithner and Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke on international proposals for a global monetary standard, while Congressman Ron Paul gained 39 co-sponsors for HR 1207 to audit the Federal Reserve. In the UK, Nigel Farage delivered a scathing critique of Prime Minister Gordon Brown in the European Parliament, and the BBC ordered budget cuts for Top Gear, prompting Jeremy Clarkson to vow defiance by purchasing supercars. Meanwhile, Senator Byron Dorgan presented evidence of a 22-year-old CEO receiving a $300 million contract to supply old Chinese ammunition to Afghan fighters.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak troubleshoot Twitter functionality while debating the culinary merits of goose eggs versus duck eggs for French custards. The hosts also examine a viral prank involving a 60-foot phallus painted on a Berkshire mansion roof that remained hidden until discovered by Google Earth. National Security Advisor James Jones raised eyebrows by stating he takes daily orders from Henry Kissinger.


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CHAPTER 01 / 35 Discussion

No Agenda Introduction, Twitter Troubleshooting, and Schedule Changes

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the March 25, 2009, episode of No Agenda from their respective locations in London and Silicon Valley. The hosts discuss a shift in the recording schedule from Thursday to Wednesday and troubleshoot technical issues with the Twitter reply button. Dvorak attempts to send a direct message to Curry to test the platform's functionality during the live stream.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· gitmo nation· twitter· mevio· silicon valley

00:04 Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak, coming to you live from opposite corners of Gitmo Nation. It's Wednesday, March 25th, 2009. This is no agenda. Emanating from the Crackpot Command Center somewhere in South London in Gitmo Nation East, I'm Adam Curry. I'm John C. Dvorak, where it's nice and sunny here in Northern Silicon Valley, 75 degrees. Yeah, what part of Gitmo Nation? uh... it monday shinna uh... the silicon valley see the whole idea is that you end up with on john c d'avor acts of the night i have a few ideas i said i'm john c d'avor off the baton i don't know what what to make of it totally holds me so was uh... i was listening to a couple shows of ours yeah cuz i had to do a clip by the make a uh...

01:01 I had to do a... I'd take some... you will hear about that later. In fact, we'll hear about that at the 1 hour 10 minute point in the show. Isn't it 1 hour 10 minutes and 37 seconds just to be exact? Something like that. So that is actually 1 hour 24 minutes. When we reach that point I have to play something. Anyway, so what's new? Well, it's so first of all doing the show on Wednesday instead of Thursday of course for people on the stream I'll be repeating the show tomorrow at the exact same time. So kind of keeps continuity good idea But it's like I can't do my Twitter's not working I bet Twitter and it just won't take the reply button doesn't work. You have a broken tweet

01:52 Doesn't make any sense your tweet up so I can't tell anybody so they if the people who are listening to the stream can't do it I can't tell my folks. Can you DM? Can you direct me? What what? 40? It's a troubleshooting exercise John yeah, can I do you can direct message me then maybe there's something else going on I don't know let's find out let me hit the direct message, but please give it a shot. Oh So while John's doing that, I received in my email this morning several sound clips which John has apparently he's got some form of an agenda today and has prepared something and the note said for the show please don't listen. So I did not. Of course. So here's interesting, so I go to direct messages and you know you get the little icons on the right of the send some wait a minute hold on

CHAPTER 02 / 35 Discussion

Chris Dodd, AIG Campaign Contributions, and Mevio Video Production

A video produced for Mevio features a critique of Senator Chris Dodd and his ties to AIG. The discussion highlights that Dodd's wife was a former director of IPC Holdings, a Bermuda-based company controlled by AIG, and notes that Dodd received $280,000 in campaign contributions from the insurance giant. The segment emphasizes the importance of using video evidence to hold politicians accountable.

chris dodd· aig· mevio· campaign contributions· ipc holdings· bermuda

02:51 Welcome to Troubleshooting Twitter, a program... Yeah, of all things we're going to talk about Twitter's the least of them. Nope, it doesn't work either. It doesn't work, alright. Screw it. So, um... Actually... So I noticed on Mevio today, today you got a whole thing about, you know, Chris Dodd trying to do your best to embarrass him. Yeah, I think I did okay. You did okay except you left out the part about Chris Dodd's wife. What was that again? Was there a conflict? Chris Dodd's wife, a former director of Bermuda-based IPC Holdings, an AIG-controlled company, blah blah blah. Yeah, but I didn't have any video of that. No. See, that's the thing, you gotta go looking around for video in order to make it work. And that's the same thing for this show. From time to time you gotta hear the real people saying the real words instead of us just reading it.

03:42 And that makes it actually like work, which as you know I hate. Actual work involved. Yeah, well it should be minimized. But yeah, thanks for promoting that, Mevio, today on the homepage. Just go to Mevio.com and you can see Adam going ballistic. What did you think of the last bit there where I morphed Dodd? Yeah, that was cute. That was direct inspiration from this show. Well, you know, it's cute except for the fact that you have a hair color difference. Duh! Thanks. You should actually, you know, if you were... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, if I had Jon Stewart's staff, I'd do it all right, okay? Thanks. There you go. That's exactly... That's what you're trying to say, yes. Well, I don't have 40 people, but I think we get... Did you mention that Chris Dodd received $280,000 in campaign contributions from AIG? Did you just watch the video or not?

04:36 I missed that part. I put up the whole list. In fact, I even said it looks like AIG is better at picking their politicians than their insurance deals. Okay. Thanks for, you know, you didn't actually watch. You were eating breakfast. You were munching away. I sat here and listened to you watch it, John. I sat here and I'm listening to it, trying to Twitter, trying to eat. And so I'm not necessarily, you know, you know what I was eating though. I was eating like real chicken eggs. So, is that a cue for me to tell you I have a goose egg? You have a goose egg? Yeah, I bought a goose egg yesterday. Patricia, you know, I forced her now to go shopping at Moon's. Moon's, I think is the way you pronounce it, the butcher.

CHAPTER 03 / 35 Discussion

Goose Eggs, Culinary Comparisons, and French Custard Techniques

The conversation shifts to the culinary properties of goose eggs compared to chicken and duck eggs. One host describes the intense flavor of goose eggs and suggests they are best used in omelets with mushrooms and cheese or for baking custards. The discussion notes that while duck eggs can be rubbery or "canally," goose eggs provide a rich, yellow color to French-style pastries and custards.

goose eggs· duck eggs· culinary· baking· custard· paris

05:19 Right around the corner who has they also have vegetables and they had goose eggs like yeah, let's give me a give me a goose egg I want to try one. I never tried a nice egg. We have a lot of goose eggs up in Washington In fact, we got a dozen of them right now We don't know what to do with them because everybody's sick of eggs and these eggs are so delicious, especially they're real yard eggs You know chickens that out there eating everything and the goose and ducks So we're caught up to a dozen eggs. My wife found, she said, well, the geese only lay, by the way, for a part of the year. They don't lay all year round like a chicken. They lay for three or four months and that's it. And so she says, well, I guess the geese have stopped laying. And she goes and finds a pile of six of them because the geese are like a lot of birds. They'll pile their eggs up someplace. That's the funniest thing.

06:10 Don't look over here nothing to see move along no eggs here. No a there's a whole pile of goose She's you know rolls her eyes, but anyway the goose eggs are unlike duck eggs Which I consider to be pretty hard to take yeah, they're too. They're too. This tastes like canal does that They're chalky. Yeah, chalky. That's it. Canally. They have a funny texture and they're rubbery and they just do not feel right in the mouth. Everything's wrong. The duck eggs are good for making breads and things. Goose eggs are also good for baking with and they make a terrific custard. But a goose egg tastes exactly like a chicken egg, only about, say, 10 times more intensely egg-flavored. But with none of the bad parts of a duck egg.

06:58 So you have to be to do something you were thinking of scrambling the thing. Yeah, I mean I think if I fried it it might be a little you know to get that no no no it might be kind of disgusting like oh god like a flint and steel egg. It's impossible. Don't say it's impossible. Don't dare me. It wouldn't be good. Okay. Now, if you're gonna scramble a goose egg, you have to cover it up with a lot of other stuff. In other words, it would have to be cooked French style with a bunch of mushrooms and maybe cheese and chopped bacon. So omelette. Omelette. Omelette style. You load it up with everything but egg. Because the egg taste is just gonna be too strong for me and I won't be able to handle it? Yeah, the egg taste is gonna be so intense. And it's also a very filling egg. Yes, well looking at that thing, if I get that whole thing in my stomach... So consider it two and a half eggs. Okay.

07:45 or three, depends on the size of the goose. But anyway, yeah, you can't just, if you're gonna scramble it straight up, it's gonna be too funk. Now, what we've been experimenting with and I've been encouraging, because I believe the French do this, and everything has to be based on the French, is make a custard from the egg. And it becomes this intense, beautifully flavored, eggy custard that you would find in a shop in Paris. Because we think that they did French are using goose eggs to make custards or cheating That's why those eggs if anyone's gone to Paris and they've gone to the shops you have this custard is like really yellow Yeah, I know what you mean. Yeah Delicious yeah, it is good. There's a goose involved on to the real news that is real news Top Gear is getting credit crunched

CHAPTER 04 / 35 Discussion

Top Gear Budget Cuts, BBC Financial Pressure, and Jeremy Clarkson

The BBC has reportedly ordered the television show Top Gear to reduce its budget by £200,000, leading to suggestions that the presenters test cheaper vehicles. Host Jeremy Clarkson has publicly defied these constraints, vowing to spend the remaining budget on high-end supercars like Lamborghinis and Ferraris. There is speculation regarding whether the budget crisis is a genuine financial squeeze or a publicity stunt to drive viewership.

top gear· bbc· jeremy clarkson· budget cuts· lamborghini· ferrari

08:47 What do you mean? They've been told to... They do bail out? Yeah, they do. They've been told they've got to... cut their budget by 200,000 pounds and the suggestion was perhaps they could test drive cheaper cars. No, that's... Yeah, yeah, I got the article right here. That doesn't cost them to test drive a car. Manufacturers let them borrow. That's how stupid that... but remember this is a government operation. Is this a fact? Somebody actually said make them test drive cheaper cars? Not knowing that their plans to feature the likes of a Lamborghini Ferrari and Porsche have been axed Because of the budget squeeze from the BBC. Maybe it's the insurance I'm sure I'm sure there's there It's not just like a free car. You know a lot of stuff that goes on and they put these these guys behind the wheel anyway, Jeremy Clarkson says uh-uh we're gonna spend the money until it's all gone right like he has something to do with it and

09:45 Like he actually controls. I like his bravado. Like yeah, well he's a real English bloke. You know, you just gotta love the guy for it. I actually prepared a number of things because of course... Hold on a second, hold on a second. I'm thinking maybe this is just all a publicity stunt to get more attention to the show since he now defies them. What do you think? I think he's always out to promote himself. Yeah, but don't you think maybe this whole thing's a scam? No, no, no, no. I'm quite sure that the budgets are being tightened at the BBC. And it's a very expensive show. Again, of course, the fact that Clarkson is going on record saying all this, of course it's a promotional bit. Now, the President of the United States

CHAPTER 05 / 35 Discussion

Barack Obama Press Conference, Teleprompter Usage, and Media Orchestration

President Barack Obama's second televised press conference is analyzed for its high level of orchestration and the use of a central teleprompter. The hosts discuss the "TOTUS" (Teleprompter of the United States) meme and observe that reporters appeared to be wearing earpieces (IFBs) to coordinate the questioning. Observations are made about the President's comfort level with the new central prompter positioning compared to previous setups.

barack obama· teleprompter· press conference· totus· white house· media

10:30 appeared multiple times on television so we 60 minutes occurred after the last show we did and of course last night there was the the pro what was that build as it was because I watched it obviously and I also recorded a press it was his second press conference is that what it was called though press conference yeah it's a press conference I mean they could have just called me and let's just turn this into a show because once again beautiful job as he does one yeah yeah right it's like the Hugo Chavez show featuring Barack Obama Where did you see that the reporters who were asking questions they all had IFBs in? Now let me... I didn't know, I didn't see that. That's funny. An IFB is one of those little earpieces that you have in and I think that's part of the reason when he called on... Who did he call on? Sue or whatever? That woman was shocked. And actually I have the...

11:22 I have the link somewhere. Yeah, because probably what happened is you know they all had these IFBs in and They're probably it was so tight and so well orchestrated That I'm sure they were saying okay. Oh, Anne was her name. Okay. We're coming to you Anne in just a minute. Hey Anne You sound surprised I am surprised I am because Right I was supposed to be the third one You called me out of turn So he called a bunch of people. Let's go over my clips I got here for you. Let me just say one thing. I laughed my ass off. You may say two things. Thank you. But I'm trying to keep in the president's vernacular. Let me say one thing about that. I loved... Look. I loved following on Twitter. There is someone you must follow. It is Teleprompter1.

12:16 By the way, this TOTUS, the teleprompter of the United States, it's a meme now. I put the links in the show notes. There are websites with the president playing golf with his teleprompter, using the teleprompter as a shovel. The military guard, instead of holding M16s, they're holding teleprompters. And this teleprompter one, it just cracked me up. Because it was the teleprompter talking back to the president and reacting to each of his statements. Of course, what they did properly, although it seemed like he had a little bit of trouble with it, is they now positioned one teleprompter in the middle near the central camera. So there was no more left and right looking. But you can see that that was a little more troublesome for him. He's not quite as comfortable with it.

13:05 I felt. Yeah, but he has to get used to it and I think that prompter is right on the lens. Yeah, right. Yeah, on or I think it's a huge one of those really big ones that they use for award shows. Yeah. So if anyone in the press corps looked behind them, they could read along with. Oh, I don't think it's that one in the back of the room style. Yeah, I think it is. No, I think it's on the camera. It's a camera prompter. regardless there's no way because they always burn the guys when they have one in the back of the room nowadays I think they've noticed this that some joker that's always gonna stand in front of it no no well there's that but there's some joker in the in the what do you call it the pool who handles the cameras that will get a shot shot of it and you'll see it so there is a shot there is a shot and it's a big like plasma screen there's a shot yeah was anything I know it was a picture picture not it not a video shot but a picture I took a photo of it yeah

CHAPTER 06 / 35 Discussion

Presidential Rhetoric, The Trinity of Priorities, and Persuasion Tactics

During an appearance on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno, President Obama reiterated his "trinity" of policy priorities: health care, energy, and education. The hosts deconstruct the rhetorical strategy of grouping items in threes to appear reasonable and persuasive. They note that adding a fourth item, such as the national deficit, can potentially weaken the emotional impact of the message.

barack obama· jay leno· health care· energy· education· rhetoric

14:00 That's ridiculous so anyway. I got some clips, but let's go through your clips because I'm curious all right first of all let's go over this one I have this is a clip from Leno, and this is the one this is a Leno clip And this is the first his first appearance And this is the only reason I brought this one up because it refers to every other clip I've got a and B it Contradicts your comments last week where you said that the order of Obama's Trinity yeah I always say it ends with and reduce our reliance on foreign oil, our dependence on foreign oil. I thought that was always the thing. In fact, the trinity goes as follows.

14:40 uh... like to health and then we have to do uh... energy then we have to do education that's the one two three punch and he brings it up and this is the first time he brings it up in let me does it in a much more show business where he doesn't really get into much detail but he does the trinity bang bang bang right there and so you can challenge uh... iran for president as i thought we needed big changes in uh... i i i do think in washington it's a little bit like american idol except everybody is simon cowell that by the way was funny Yeah, that was funny. in a place where they understand it took us a while to get into this mess. It's going to take a while for us to get out of it. And if they have confidence that I'm making steps to deal with issues like health care and energy and education that matter deeply to their daily lives, then I think they're going to give us some time. Let me ask you about this.

15:55 Yeah, that's the long drawn-out That's the order but wait a minute. That's the order in that specific order now at the press conference He did something interesting besides saying You know look number of times and okay. He has a couple other bits I by the way I spotted that he does over and over again when he's annoyed But he's decided, and I think, I don't know whether this is a good idea or a bad idea, and if you listen to, as we listen to a couple of these clips I've got, you'll find that he keeps bringing up the, you know, the health care, energy, and education in that order over and over again. But he's added a fourth. Ah, yes. And I don't know whether he added the fourth as part of a meeting or he decided to add the fourth because

16:40 There's something elegant about a trinity and writers are always taught this. If you want to express certain kinds of emotions, you do certain series of connections. If you want to say the guy is crazy and he's nuts, you do two things and that's considered a high level of emotion to make a point. to do a reasonable point making process, you use three items. The guy's nuts, he's crazy and he's oblivious. You know, just three things is all. And three is the key to make you sound kind of reasonable in your assertions to get a point across.

CHAPTER 07 / 35 Discussion

Budget Negotiations, Cap and Trade, and The New Fourth Priority

Reporter Jake Tapper questioned President Obama on whether he would sign a budget that excludes middle-class tax cuts or cap-and-trade provisions. In response, the President expanded his core list of priorities to include deficit reduction alongside health care, energy, and education. This shift marks a formal inclusion of fiscal responsibility into his standard rhetorical framework.

capitol hill· senate democrats· middle class tax cut· cap and trade· deficit· budget

17:16 Then if you use four or more things where you just have a series of guys crazy's nuts he's an abomination He's an idiot. He's a phony, but that weakens you doesn't it that that yes that weakens you and makes you sound like a lunatic It's ill-advised no not yet Well yeah, we can play the clip, but this clip these clips are the couple these clips are a little long. Yeah, they're all interesting about these clips and if we're gonna play clip one is that a question is asked that Obama never answers and instead he goes into the same crap about we need to fix health care and we need to fix the energy problem. I have not heard these clips let me just guess this is the question that was asked he didn't answer any of the questions I believe are you going to sign a bill if it doesn't include your triumvirate? This is it. Exactly. Okay that's what I thought. Jake

18:14 Thank you Mr. President. Right now on Capitol Hill, Senate Democrats are writing a budget And, according to press accounts, uh, and their own statements, uh, they're not including the middle class tax cut that, uh, you include in the stimulus. They're talking about phasing that out. They're not including, uh, the cap and trade that you have in your budget. Uh, and they're not including other measures. I know when you outlined your four priorities over the weekend, uh, a number of these things were not in there. Will you sign a budget if it does not contain a middle class tax cut? Does not contain, uh, cap and trade? So the reporter only mentioned two, actually. Well the curious thing is the reporter doesn't mention the four, which is what Obama mentioned. Yeah, but those two aren't the four. Two not equal four. I'm with you. No, those two are not even part of the four. Not even part of the four. Okay, here we go. Emphasize repeatedly what I expect out of this budget. I expect that there's serious efforts at health care reform.

19:16 One. And that we are driving down costs for families and businesses and ultimately for the federal and state governments that are going to be broke if we continue on the current path. I've said that we've got to have a serious energy policy that frees ourselves from dependence on foreign oil and makes clean energy the profitable kind of energy. So it's always health care energy, right? We've got to invest in education, K through 12 and beyond, to upgrade the skills of the American workers. And now, what will number four be? I wish I had a drumroll. I've got to get one. ...compete in the international economy. And I've said that we've got to start driving our deficit numbers down. Ah, okay, the deficit question. Yeah, that's the new number four.

CHAPTER 08 / 35 Discussion

Health Care IT Investment, Preventive Care, and DynPort Vaccine Company

President Obama suggests that investing in health information technology and preventive care is the primary method for reducing long-term health care costs. The hosts express skepticism, linking the push for medical IT to government surveillance and DNA databases. They reference a listener email regarding DynPort and Baxter, companies involved in vaccine distribution, suggesting a convergence between government IT services and public health mandates.

health care· it· preventive care· dynport· baxter· bird flu

20:02 Can I just play a quick clip regarding kind of jump my ass shit. I won't do that. I don't want to jump around. Yeah, sure. Because on that on that deficit later he comes back and he says when talking about health care, I was very amazed to hear the things he said. Check this. Then we would have already had it done and the budget would have been voted on and everybody could go home. This is hard. And the reason it's hard is because we've accumulated a structural deficit that's going to take a long time and we're not going to be able to do it next year or the year after or three years from now. What we have to do is bend the curve. I love that. Bend the curve. Yeah, I have that flip too. Yeah, well there's one piece that comes after this which is even more astounding. On these deficit projections. And the best way for us to do that is to reduce health care costs.

20:58 That's not just my opinion. Now, how do we reduce them? Listen to this. How do we reduce health care costs? A single person who has looked at our long-term fiscal situation. Now, how do we, how are we going to reduce health care costs? Now, now. Because the problem is not just in government-run programs. Yeah, yeah, now it's the private sector, it's your fault. It's in the private sector as well. It's experienced by families, it's experienced by businesses. And so what we've said is, look, let's invest in health information technologies. Let's invest in preventive care. Let's... Okay, so I now understand what he's doing. So we're not actually going to put in more nurses or

21:42 uh... or improve situations and global scale we're going to do is pour billions of dollars into by t which has an ancillary benefit of getting everyone's dna in the database preventive care by the way preventive care is of course it's a total get no nation term for we're gonna tell you what you can eat and what you can't eat that's that i think that i'm not going to argue the point on the heels of this if i can just move away for one second. We got an email about this IT and it really, really struck home from Rick Deckard who found out some information. Remember the company Dynport and we just have to keep coming back to us that distributed bird flu, live bird flu virus with flu vaccinations mixed together in a nice handy little shot to kick start this bird flu epidemic?

22:37 from Baxter. Yes, so he says you know these guys were acquired by CSC which you and I determined was a basically a government IT organization it gets all government contracts to implement IT now it makes total sense of course they acquired the flu vaccine company because these guys are health care now IT services is going to become health care and it'll just pop up on the database. Ah, Mr. Dvorak, you have not had your live bird flu infested flu shot yet. You need to have it. So that's what that investment is all about. I feel good. Could be. I feel good. All right, so let's go to a couple more clips.

CHAPTER 09 / 35 Discussion

Ed Henry Questioning, AIG Outrage Timing, and Press Interaction

Reporter Ed Henry challenged President Obama on the delay between learning about AIG bonuses and expressing public outrage. Obama defended the timing, stating he prefers to be fully informed before speaking, a remark that drew laughter from the press corps. The discussion highlights the tension between the administration's response and the more aggressive actions taken by New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo.

ed henry· aig· andrew cuomo· timothy geithner· white house press corps

23:22 By the way, he says, he goes, well, and he says now and he uses the word now, which is a substitute for the word look. Yeah, there's a couple of them. Well, he's using that more and more. Yeah. Only one save and create actually. There was now with a long pause and it's the same as look. It's kind of interesting. But play clip B, which is a long clip, but this is the one you just kind of played. I just want to play the beginning of it because this is where a guy asks the questions that Obama, he unfortunately asks a two-part question. Obama decides to take part two and start answering it, never addressing part one. At first I thought he actually misunderstood the question.

24:08 And this is about, uh... Clip me, clip me too. Uh, Ed Henry. Where's Ed? Hey Ed! Hello Ed, is your IFB on? Ed, can you hear me? Cue Ed, cue Ed. By the way, he does, where's Ed, where's Ed? Is she here? And he does that, and then he also has two people that he just uses by their first name. Yeah, well Ed, it's like Ed. Hey Ed! Is the IFB working? Ed, can you hear me? Yeah, okay. You spoke again at the top about your anger about AIG. You've been saying that for days now. But why is it that it seems Andrew Cuomo seems to be in New York getting more actual action on it? And when you and Secretary Geithner first learned about this,

24:44 10 days, 2 weeks ago. You didn't go public immediately with that outrage. You waited a few days, and then you went public after you realized Secretary Geithner really had no legal avenue to stop it. And more broadly, I just want to follow up on Chip and Jake. You've been very critical of President Bush doubling the national debt. And to be fair, it's not just Republicans hitting you. Democrat Ken Conrad, as you know, said, quote, when I look at this budget, I see the debt doubling again. You keep saying that you've inherited a big fiscal mess. Do you worry, though, that your daughters, not to mention the next president, will be inheriting an even bigger fiscal mess if the spending goes out of control? Of course I do, Ed, which is why we're doing everything we can to reduce that deficit. Actually, I thought this was a pretty boring answer that he gave. What's the part that you liked?

25:31 The part that I like, you don't have to play the rest of it, he actually goes into look look a couple times, but you don't have to play the rest of it because you actually already played part of this. Go to clip three, which is where the guy comes back and says, hey, you never answered my question. Yeah, I have this clip too. Those are reflected in our budget. Play it, play it. Yeah, this is it. Because the savings we anticipate would be coming in years outside of the 10 year budget cycle that we're talking about. But Mr. President, sir. on AIG, why did you wait? Why did you wait days to come out and express that outrage? It seems like the action is coming out of New York in the Attorney General's office. It took you days to come public with Secretary Geithner and say, look, we're outraged. Why did it take so long? It took us a couple of days because I like to know what I'm talking about before I speak. And then listen to all the reporters laughing. You got slammed by him. Take down. Take down. Yeah, that was a good one.

CHAPTER 10 / 35 Discussion

Global Reserve Currency, China and Russia Proposals, and The US Dollar

During the press conference, President Obama dismissed the need for a new global reserve currency, reaffirming the strength of the US dollar. This statement follows proposals from China and Russia suggesting that the International Monetary Fund (IMF) develop an alternative currency system. The hosts note the significance of this financial challenge to American economic hegemony.

global currency· reserve currency· china· russia· us dollar· imf

26:28 The big question which leads into yesterday's news about China was actually asked and I thought it was interesting. It kind of got snuck in there about the global currency. As China, in the Financial Times yesterday, China said, hey, we think we should be a new global reserve currency, shouldn't be the dollar. Russia says, hey, comrades, we think that's a pretty good idea. So one of the reporters snuck the question in. I don't believe that there's a need for a global currency. There you go. I don't think there's a need for a global currency. However...

CHAPTER 11 / 35 Discussion

Shepard Smith Critique, Fox News, and Media Bias Claims

The hosts criticize Fox News anchor Shepard Smith for his editorializing following the presidential press conference. Smith complained that the President ignored major financial publications like the New York Times and Wall Street Journal, despite the fact that Obama called on Fox News and the Washington Times. The hosts argue that Smith's complaints are disingenuous and represent a broader trend of empty media deconstruction.

shepard smith· fox news· media bias· white house· journalism· news corp

27:05 Yes. Well, you know what's interesting about that question? It was a financial question and again, who was it asked by? It was asked by Fox News. Really? Which brings me to the last clip I really want to need to play which is the one that's from Shepard Smith which is on there I think it's clip four. Four or five we haven't done four so five? Is this thing? No that's the Mexican question. Yeah Shepard Smith. Yeah Shepard Smith. Now here before I'm gonna set this one up. Okay. So I'm watching this thing on channel locally channel two which is a Fox affiliate. So they bring Shepard Smith who I really find annoying. Despise.

27:42 Hey everybody, it's Studio B, Shep Smith in the morning! He's a puker, dude. So he comes on and, yeah, sure, yeah, but you would call it puker. He comes on and I want you to, this is not a short clip, but he brings on somebody who says nothing and then he makes, then he decides to editorialize and I have to comment on the editorializing after he, after this clip plays. Go play it. are failing but are too big to do so because they would affect our economy. The president said tonight and I quote, we should have obtained it much earlier so that any institution that poses a systemic risk

28:21 that can bring down the financial system, we can handle and we can do it in an orderly fashion that quarantines it from other institutions. He went on to say, we don't have that power right now. That's what Secretary Geithner is talking about. And I think there's going to be strong support from the American people in the Congress to provide that authority. The question is, is it constitutional? Our senior judicial analyst, Judge Andrew Napolitano, says it's not. But for the economy, we turn to Alexis Glick, the Senior Vice President of Business News for the Fox Business Network on satellite and cable, and the host of their morning program, Money for Breakfast. His first talk, his scripted talk... Is that right after Bitches for Breakfast on Fox News? And his questions were largely about different things. It was actually pretty fascinating. We thought this was going to be a speech largely about those economic issues, the AIG bonuses, a lot more about the federal budget deficit, what they plan to do in terms of getting private capital to help rescue the financial institutions. We only saw a handful of questions about that at the very top.

29:20 You know, if you were to put this in baseball terms, I would say there was a lot of softballs thrown tonight, not a lot of curveballs, not a lot of business organizations asking questions. One has to wonder what it will look like going forward. He's got a lot more challenges this week ahead. In fact, no business organizations. A little inside baseball for you, because we like to denote who the president calls on. He called on Stars and Stripes. He called on Politico. He called on Ebony. He called on the French press agency. Did not call on the New York Times, the Washington Post, or the Wall Street Journal, or any of the financial networks. Interesting. Interesting my butt, this guy, if he had called on the New York Times and the Washington Post, he would have been burned. He would have gone on and on about, oh it's all they ever call on are these people. The joke is he called on Fox.

30:09 What's he got to complain about? Fox was called on. Fox asked the financial question, why is he saying this? He called on the Washington Times, a right-wing newspaper. What has he got to complain about? He wants him to call on the New York Times? How disingenuous, how phony can this guy, Shepard Smith, be? This is the most bogus complaint I've ever heard in my life. Obama goes out of his way to call on obscure publications and call on Fox and call on CNN and call on the Washington Times and then they complain he's not calling on the New York Times? What? Shepard Smith is plugged in man. If he unplugs they just put him in the corner in the evening. I don't understand why you're upset about it.

30:58 It's because you listen to this stuff as though they've got something on him. Oh, we've got him now. And this is what's going on. You run into this with Rush Limbaugh too. These guys are just complaining about anything they can think of, whether it means anything, whether it's meaningful or whatever, instead of looking behind. They never say, hey, look, the guy's repetitive. He kept bringing up the same four things over and over. What'd you ask? He'd say the same stuff. They never do any deconstruction, they just complain. They look for something to pick about like, oh, he didn't call in the New York Times. This is terrible. What's him calling on the New York Times? It's just I just watched this going, well, we might as well just throw this, you know, these right wingers, the Fox people, the Murdoch people and just throw them under the bus because they're useless.

CHAPTER 12 / 35 Discussion

Global War on Terror Name Change, Overseas Contingency Operations

The Obama administration has officially moved to retire the phrase "Global War on Terror" in favor of "Overseas Contingency Operations." A memo circulated within the Pentagon instructs staff to avoid terms like "Long War" to describe military actions in Iraq and Afghanistan. Budget Director Peter Orszag utilized the new terminology during recent fiscal briefings.

global war on terror· overseas contingency operations· pentagon· peter orszag· terminology

31:49 Let's move away from the clips for a moment. I'd want to bring your attention to a name change from the Ministry of Truth. The Global War on Terror is no longer what it's called, John. Oh, they've changed the name. Yes, they've changed the name. Peter Orszag, remember this guy, the goofy guy who sits in some of those meetings? He's the Oversight Management Budget Director. He's now calling it the following, he said, quote, the budget shows the combined cost of operations in Iraq, Afghanistan, and, here it comes, other overseas contingency operations may be necessary. And there is a memo that has been circling to Pentagon staff saying the administration prefers to avoid using the term long war or global war on terror. Please use overseas contingency operation.

CHAPTER 13 / 35 Discussion

Special Drawing Rights, IMF, and Lord of the Rings Zeitgeist

A listener contribution links the 1969 introduction of Special Drawing Rights (SDRs) by the IMF to the release of J.R.R. Tolkien's "The Lord of the Rings" in the same year. The segment explores the idea of SDRs acting as a "beta version" for a one-world currency. The host reflects on the fractal nature of these historical coincidences and their relevance to modern global banking.

sdr· imf· world currency· j.r.r. tolkien· 1969· zeitgeist

32:42 I love it. Yeah, hi Adam, hi John. Here's Chris from Germany and I found an interesting fun fact about the SDRs, the Special Drawing Rights. Now you know what this is about, right? We've talked about these, the International Monetary Fund, who will become the global bank, is creating money billions of it and they're called SDR special drawing rights. It's the SDR is something China is now going for and Russia is going for and it's like a beta version for a new world currency. I like that a beta version for a new world currency. So beta in American lingo. Yes but tomato tomato. The interesting fact is that this SDR is already

33:44 They were introduced in 1969. And when you think about the world currency and you think about J.R.R. Tolkien with the one ring to rule them all, it's quite interesting that the Lord of the Rings was released also in 1969. So maybe there are some kind of a zeitgeist that is now coming to the real world. I think it's a fun fact to think about and you find more and more of these little things that are like a fractal, maybe a little bit that is now coming into place. Thanks a lot. Keep on with the show. I contributed to the library, maybe just $5, but it will help you out. And I hope this fun fact is also nice for your audience. Have a good time. Bye. Thanks for the fun fact. So there's a war on meat.

CHAPTER 14 / 35 Discussion

Twitter E-Penis Size, Berkshire Mansion Phallus Prank

The hosts discuss a viral Twitter tool that calculates "e-penis size" based on user profiles. This leads to a story about an 18-year-old in Berkshire who secretly painted a 60-foot phallus on the roof of his parents' £1 million mansion. The drawing remained undetected for a year until it was reportedly discovered via Google Earth.

twitter· e-penis· berkshire· prank· google earth· mansion

34:43 You know my Twitter penis size is like 800 inches. I'm sorry? Yeah, there's some... you can measure the size of your e-penis and you give it your Twitter name and then it gives back a page with the size of your e-penis. Really? Yes. It's funny, I would just mention meat and you'd come up with that kind of a connection. Uh-huh. So what is the link to that? People out there want to know. I tweeted it yesterday, I can't remember. Yeah, you don't want me to check mine. You'll be poking me in the eye with that thing across the ocean, man. I don't want that. That's frickin' dangerous. I think, John, before you do anything, it's... And now, back to real news. I found this one.

35:30 An 18 year old has secretly painted a 60 foot drawing of a phallus on the roof of his parents $1,000,000 mansion in Berkshire. It was there for a year before his parents find out. And the picture is phenomenal. Every little plane, he should have flown over it. If only I had known. Well, he has to scrub it off. So that's when he gets back from traveling. So maybe it's still there. I can fly over Berkshire. I know where that is. How did they find it? Google Earth probably. By the way, I'm laughing my ass off here in the UK particularly, but in the rest of Europe. So now Google Street View is available. And I think we talked on the last show that there was a guy who was coming out of a porn shop and he said, I don't want that sticking around for the next couple months. I want that taken off.

36:17 But it's so funny that particularly the Brits, that they're outraged their privacy is being hurt by Google Street View when there's 10 million cameras everywhere! It's crazy! Oh that is funny. It's just stupid. Google Street View is one snapshot taken once in a lifetime. showing you know nothing yeah the cameras are live 24-7 and by the way you know as a part of the the new terrorist you know in the UK in Gitmo Nation East they're upping they're upping the work on on that I'm sorry on the overseas contingency projects whatever and now there's a list and if you are even looking at CCTV cameras

CHAPTER 15 / 35 Discussion

Google Street View Privacy, UK CCTV Surveillance, and Terrorist Suspects

The launch of Google Street View in the UK has sparked privacy concerns among the British public. The hosts contrast this outrage with the existing saturation of CCTV cameras in "Gitmo Nation East." They highlight a Metropolitan Police advisory suggesting that citizens who look too closely at CCTV cameras should be reported as potential terrorist suspects.

google street view· privacy· cctv· uk· metropolitan police· surveillance

35:30 An 18 year old has secretly painted a 60 foot drawing of a phallus on the roof of his parents $1,000,000 mansion in Berkshire. It was there for a year before his parents find out. And the picture is phenomenal. Every little plane, he should have flown over it. If only I had known. Well, he has to scrub it off. So that's when he gets back from traveling. So maybe it's still there. I can fly over Berkshire. I know where that is. How did they find it? Google Earth probably. By the way, I'm laughing my ass off here in the UK particularly, but in the rest of Europe. So now Google Street View is available. And I think we talked on the last show that there was a guy who was coming out of a porn shop and he said, I don't want that sticking around for the next couple months. I want that taken off.

36:17 But it's so funny that particularly the Brits, that they're outraged their privacy is being hurt by Google Street View when there's 10 million cameras everywhere! It's crazy! Oh that is funny. It's just stupid. Google Street View is one snapshot taken once in a lifetime. showing you know nothing yeah the cameras are live 24-7 and by the way you know as a part of the the new terrorist you know in the UK in Gitmo Nation East they're upping they're upping the work on on that I'm sorry on the overseas contingency projects whatever and now there's a list and if you are even looking at CCTV cameras

37:07 The Metropolitan Police, the Met as they call it, have said you should probably report people who are looking at CCTV cameras. They are a suspect. Brother. That would be... Hey look there's a camera. What does it look like? I don't know what brand is it. Hey let's go arrest that guy. It's crazy. And so everyone's yelling about Google. That shows you how pathetic the British public is or has become or has been made into. Yeah, well I still have hope that there's something lurking underneath there. By the way you can also follow the TSA on Twitter, which is a hoot. TSA blog team. That's always funny. Yeah, that would be funny. Yeah, that's a good one. Some interesting stuff going on in the European Parliament. And there's two clips that are floating around. Gordon Brown visited, I think it was in Strasbourg, it wasn't in Brussels. Gordon Brown visited

CHAPTER 16 / 35 Discussion

Nigel Farage, Gordon Brown, and European Parliament Confrontation

Nigel Farage of the UK Independence Party (UKIP) delivered a scathing critique of Prime Minister Gordon Brown during a session of the European Parliament. Farage accused Brown of devaluing democracy by denying the British people a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty. He also mocked Brown's economic record, specifically the decision to sell 400 metric tons of UK gold reserves at historic price lows.

nigel farage· gordon brown· european parliament· ukip· lisbon treaty· gold sales

38:15 the European Parliament and for some reason it seems to be a lot easier for the European politicians who are, or the British politicians who are in the European Parliament to yell and scream at Gordon Brown when he's not in the UK. So there's two, there's Daniel Hannan, which you might have even seen this video, John, who starts off by, you're the most devalued Prime Minister of a devalued government. He just hammers it, and Gordon Brown is just sitting there smiling. But the one that I'd like to play a bit of is from, I think it's Nigel Farage.

38:51 He's from the UK Independent Party. I'm sure you've seen this guy around on YouTube videos. And he gets a bad rap for some reason in the UK, but I want you to listen to him. And this is yesterday. Completely drilled Gordon Brown, an asshole the size of the Lincoln Tunnel. It is just beautiful, beautiful work. And I wish it was on television because people need to hear this kind of stuff. It's not on television, because in Canada they televise those little arguments. After years of cooperation... So first Gordon Brown does his little speech about how great everything is and the European Union rocks and we're fantastic. ...we are stronger together, safer together than ever we are apart. Yes, very good. Now on behalf of the Independence and Democracy Group, Nigel Farage, three minutes. Minister, you received some criticism this afternoon for your comment, British jobs for British workers, but you can brush that aside.

39:44 Because from the moment you said it I don't think anybody seriously thought oh, you should see this video Brown He's just sitting there going, Nigel's gonna make a little show. But this is common there. This is common, but I haven't rarely seen this in the British Parliament, but in the European Parliament. And Farage does this a lot. But just listen to how he blames Gordon Brown for everything, and in most cases, justly so. Prime Minister, put the interests of British workers above that of your European dream. And my goodness me, you showed that this afternoon. It's just a pity that apart from UKIP, virtually nobody seems to have bothered to turn up to listen to you.

40:24 No, you're very popular here. You're very popular indeed because within a few days of the Irish saying no to the Lisbon Treaty, you had rammed that treaty through the British Parliament and you'd done it breaking a specific... You see, I said you were popular. You did it breaking a specific mesto pledge that you would give the British people a referendum on the constitutional treaty. Shame on you, Prime Minister, for doing that. You have devalued democracy in our country. You have devalued the trust that voters have got in you as a British Prime Minister. But of course we know the reason why.

41:01 The reason why is that we would have voted no. You said in your speech that none but those on the extremes oppose European Union. Well that may be right amongst professional career politicians, but a clear majority of the British people want us to have friendship and free trade with the European Union, but do not want to be members of this political union. You cannot, you cannot continue against public opinion to build this European Union. If you do it against the will of the people, you are storing up enormous social and political problems for the future. Please, please let the peoples of Europe decide their destiny. Don't have it done in parliaments like this and parliaments like Westminster. It won't work.

41:49 And as far as the economy is concerned, you've told us that somehow you're the economic guru. You're the man that can save the world. Well I remember very well your first big act as Chancellor when you sold 400 metric tons of gold on the world's exchanges at $275 an ounce. at today's valuation that would be 10 billion dollars higher but it isn't just the fact you got it wrong because we can all get it wrong it was the fact that you announced in advance that how much you were gonna sell and on what day you were gonna sell it. It was an error so basic that the average A-level economic student even in these educationally devalued times wouldn't have done. I love it. Yeah, they're a little more blunt there. We don't do anything like that.

CHAPTER 17 / 35 Discussion

Blue Chip Forecasters, 60 Minutes Interview, and Afghanistan Troop Deployment

President Obama introduced the term "blue chip forecasters" during his recent media appearances to bolster his economic arguments. In a 60 Minutes interview, he discussed the "weighty" decision to send 17,000 additional troops to Afghanistan before a strategic review was completed. The hosts also comment on the President's practice of signing, rather than personally writing, condolence letters to the families of fallen soldiers.

blue chip forecasters· 60 minutes· afghanistan· troop deployment· condolence letters· barack obama

42:41 But that's, but it's un-televised, you know, doesn't really make any difference. No one ever sees it, no one ever hears it. So did it really happen? I don't think so. Hey, by the way, I got a list of stuff from Obama's press conference. I noticed he's also doing a Reagan thing where he brings in these anecdotes. He says he met with a man yesterday who builds windows. Yeah, Bill Gates. I guess maybe. He's like, what is he meeting with this guy for? How does this guy get the meeting with the president? But anyway, he's got a new term by the way I want people to look out for besides the fact that he now has four items in his agenda. Four items, new terms coming, yes. The new term is blue chip forecasters. Well that's on par with working families, John. What's a working family and what's a blue chip forecaster? No, no, no, but a blue chip forecaster is hot.

43:31 It's the new meme. Meanwhile, he's also attacking critics to an excess. He keeps mentioning critics, critics, critics as though they're bad people. Oh yeah, the other guys, we inherited this, it's all by the way, he inherited everything. Everything is inherited. So while Obama was doing 60 Minutes, which was also, that was kind of a fun interview. Although he doesn't actually write to the president doesn't write to the parents of dead soldiers He just signs them. He just signs the letters. Did you catch that on the 60? No, I didn't catch it That's fine because there's so many Demands and decisions that are pressed upon you. What's the hardest decision you've had to make in the last 60 days? Well, I would say that the decision to send more troops into Afghanistan, you know, I think it's the right thing to do and

44:23 but it's a weighty decision because we actually had to make the decision prior to the completion of a strategic review. I love that. We made the decision before we had the fricking plan. That we were conducting. When I make a decision to send 17,000 young Americans to Afghanistan, you can understand that intellectually, but understanding what that means for those families, for those young people, When you end up sitting at your desk signing a condolence letter to yeah Not like you'd actually write one have someone else write it, and then you just sign it well He doesn't he like he would have time to write all those letters. I mean yeah, it's several thousand I mean forget about it not to be outdone by the way in the spectrum of getting ink getting press and on television Barney Frank appeared made an appearance

CHAPTER 18 / 35 Discussion

Barney Frank, Antonin Scalia, and The Persistence Mantra

Representative Barney Frank criticized Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, calling him a "homophobe" during an interview regarding same-sex partner benefits for federal court employees. Meanwhile, the hosts identify "persistence" as the new mantra for the Obama administration's domestic policy. They compare this branding effort to the rhetorical style of the previous Bush administration.

barney frank· antonin scalia· doma· supreme court· persistence· same-sex benefits

45:17 on Gay 365. I got some I got some nastiness on Barney Frank several points first two federal judges in California now saying that employees in their courts are in fact a spite doma entitled to health benefits for their same-sex partners what are your thoughts on that and can that alone really do much as much as I just like that law I got the fight against it I don't think it's appropriate to say that the president should pick and choose what laws he defends on the other hand I do

46:00 I do think this argument that it is unconstitutional for the federal government to pick and choose as to which marriages it will accept is a good one. At some point, that's going to have to go to the United States Supreme Court. I wouldn't want it to go to the United States Supreme Court now because that homophobe, Antonin Scalia, has got too many votes on this current court. I think that's hilarious. That homophobe! Scalia. Scalia should hold him in contempt. Yeah, I mean, that's... That's out there, man. It's pretty bad. Oh my goodness. You know, by the way, we were talking about all these problems that the president has inherited. You know how those are categorized now? No, what's the new term? Yes. I'm a big believer in persistence.

46:52 I think that when it comes to domestic affairs, if we keep on working at it, if we acknowledge that we make mistakes sometimes and that we don't always have the right answer and we're inheriting very knotty problems. You know he started that persistence thing at the end almost as an ad lib. You know, because persistence is going to be his mantra, which I came to that, which is the same. What's the difference between that and George Bush's stuff? Nothing, nothing. All you got to do is say it with a different voice and you're on the money. He's got a much better voice. There's in fact, you know, talking about the teleprompter is that the Letterman did a bit that I thought was amusing. He it's called, you know, he defended Obama's use of the teleprompter with a segment called Prompter or No Prompter. Like, will it float?

47:43 And see exactly so he brings him out and there's Obama giving this real And then he says then no prompter they go to the no prompter segment and it's a Pete. It's a section of with Bush Stumbling through somebody yeah prompter or no prompter, so he's trying to lie He can't get you know he used to do this thing called great moments in presidential speeches Yeah, but Bush is gone now, so he's trying to keep him in the adder do something. Yeah, he's got to do something oh There was one piece, and then we should stop at the sound clips. President Obama said something yesterday which I believe can be used against him with this whole climate change bullshit. And it relates to the question about stem cell research. And it was a great follow-up question and I just think it's very useful. But what I don't want to do is predetermine this based on

CHAPTER 19 / 35 Discussion

Scientific Consensus, Stem Cell Research, and Climate Change

During a press conference, President Obama stated that scientific consensus should not be the sole factor in determining policy, specifically in the context of stem cell research. The hosts suggest this admission could be used to challenge the administration's stance on climate change. They argue that if consensus is not enough for one scientific issue, it should not be the definitive authority for others.

scientific consensus· stem cell research· climate change· executive order· barack obama

46:52 I think that when it comes to domestic affairs, if we keep on working at it, if we acknowledge that we make mistakes sometimes and that we don't always have the right answer and we're inheriting very knotty problems. You know he started that persistence thing at the end almost as an ad lib. You know, because persistence is going to be his mantra, which I came to that, which is the same. What's the difference between that and George Bush's stuff? Nothing, nothing. All you got to do is say it with a different voice and you're on the money. He's got a much better voice. There's in fact, you know, talking about the teleprompter is that the Letterman did a bit that I thought was amusing. He it's called, you know, he defended Obama's use of the teleprompter with a segment called Prompter or No Prompter. Like, will it float?

47:43 And see exactly so he brings him out and there's Obama giving this real And then he says then no prompter they go to the no prompter segment and it's a Pete. It's a section of with Bush Stumbling through somebody yeah prompter or no prompter, so he's trying to lie He can't get you know he used to do this thing called great moments in presidential speeches Yeah, but Bush is gone now, so he's trying to keep him in the adder do something. Yeah, he's got to do something oh There was one piece, and then we should stop at the sound clips. President Obama said something yesterday which I believe can be used against him with this whole climate change bullshit. And it relates to the question about stem cell research. And it was a great follow-up question and I just think it's very useful. But what I don't want to do is predetermine this based on

48:34 very rigid scientific ideological approach. Here comes the question. And that's what I think is reflected in the executive order that I signed. I meant to ask a follow up. Do you think that scientific consensus is enough to tell us what we can and cannot do? Thank you. Just wanted to hear it. Scientific consensus not enough to tell us what to do, including climate change. Oh yes, that's funny. Good catch. That's not funny, it's true. I didn't have a use for it. But yeah, climate change, what scientific consensus has got to do with anything? Al Gore's coming out with a new book. Oh, he's got to do something. Yeah, well... Who wrote this one? Let's see, from Al's webpage, it's called Our Choice.

CHAPTER 20 / 35 Discussion

Al Gore's New Book, Rainwater Collection Illegality in Colorado

Al Gore has announced a new book titled "Our Choice," to be published by Rodale in November 2009. The discussion shifts to the legality of rainwater collection, noting that it is illegal in Colorado and several other US states due to complex water rights laws. The hosts criticize these regulations as corrupt, contrasting them with practices in Bermuda where rainwater harvesting is essential and encouraged.

al gore· rodale· rainwater· colorado· water rights· cisterns

49:24 It'll be published by Rodale in the US and by other publishers internationally November 3rd 2009 picking up where an inconvenient truth left off our choice Utilizes mr. Gore mr. Gore's 40 years of experience as a student policymaker author filmmaker entrepreneur Grammy Award winner I made that up and activist why is it being posted by Rodale actually I've known nothing about Rodale It's like a small publisher that does a lot of health books and things like that. It's a very specialized group. Maybe they picked up the first one, maybe they had... I'm sure he got a good deal on it. Yeah, but you get a lot more money from a random house in terms of millions. But maybe he's got a back end on all that shit. Yeah, he must have some special royalty or something. In Colorado, it is now illegal to catch rainwater.

50:21 Well, we blogged this like over a month ago. It's been illegal to catch rainwater in Colorado for decades. How does that work? In fact, in most states, when you start looking it up, it's illegal to catch rainwater. That's crazy! Yeah, tell me about it. I mean, here it's actually encouraged and you can buy what they call a garden butt. I'm not quite sure why they call it a butt. But why would that be outlawed? Why would that be illegal? Well, we're wondering ourselves, but they would say that the water resources people say, look, we've calculated the runoff and the drainage and we did this and we can't have it interfere with a bunch of people with barrels, which is just a bullshit argument if I ever heard one. But it's a matter of, I don't think there's anybody, although I think we did block somebody who did get a ticket for collecting rainwater.

51:15 What the problem is, is that in certain of these drought-prone areas, and this came to my attention after I'd written or we complained about the fact that in Bermuda where there's no natural source of water, people have these roofs made with this, you know, Bermuda... Built for the purpose. But no one can regulate rainwater! It's from God! You can't regulate that! Screw that! So, you know, it's like you can't do one of these roofs and with a cistern in Los Angeles where they're always moaning about their lack of water. And instead it just goes into those big trenches and out to the ocean. And then there's then there the people are sold water at a very high price. Instead, it's just corruption. Thank you.

CHAPTER 21 / 35 Discussion

Czech Republic Government Collapse, Iraq Ponzi Scheme Allegations

The government of the Czech Republic has collapsed during its presidency of the European Union, which the hosts link to the Czech President's skepticism regarding climate change. Additionally, a report in the Belfast Telegraph alleges that $125 billion in Iraq reconstruction funds are missing. The hosts describe the situation as a massive "rip-off" involving cash shipped on pallets.

czech republic· climate change· iraq· ponzi scheme· reconstruction funds· belfast telegraph

52:04 And one of the true glimmers of hope in the European Union, the current, the member state that holds the presidency, the Czech Republic, well, you know, of course the president of the Czech Republic doesn't believe in the climate change story. And his government fell, conveniently. Whoops! He's not playing ball. He's not playing ball. You are not playing ball, Czechski. Watch what we'll do now. You should make that a clip. It's so true. Carbon footprint labels should be displayed on all new products, say ministers of parliament and Gitmo Nation East. Of course. Of course they should. I'm all for it. I wonder how many people in the United States especially who don't pay much attention to this political stuff, who live in North Dakota and don't really care about any of this, think everything's bull, would pick up a package and they'd see this carbon footprint saying, what the heck is this? What is this carbon footprint thingy?

53:05 And then they look around for a footprint on the ground saying is this like a footprint around here? Is it a foot? You really got to understand. You got to listen to this show. Tell your neighbors, tell your friends. In the Belfast Telegraph, I'm so glad this is coming to light, they keep talking about the biggest Ponzi scheme in the world and it is all going straight back to Iraq. 125 billion dollars are missing. This is a great article. It's not a Kapanzi scheme, that's an out and out rip off. That's just a rip off. A Kapanzi scheme is somebody gets their money back. Well no, it's literally being shipped out on pallets and you know that's not just not it's just not a good policy to send money on pallets. I don't care what you say, I don't care who's touching it, it's just not a good policy.

CHAPTER 22 / 35 Discussion

Afghan Weapons Contracts, Young CEOs, and Military Scams

Senator Byron Dorgan presented evidence of a $300 million taxpayer contract awarded to a 22-year-old CEO to provide weapons to Afghan fighters. The company, based in a small shack in Florida, allegedly delivered cases of old Chinese ammunition. The hosts highlight this as a prime example of the lack of oversight in military spending and government contracting.

senator dorgan· afghanistan· weapons contracts· florida· military spending· scam

54:07 And this article is very good, you'll find it in the show notes at noagenda.mevo.com, curry.com, and cagematch.dvorak.org. And just the ramp, I mean it's our money, in fact someone sent me a clip of Senator Dorgan And this is a clip from a couple months ago, and I'll just fast forward to this one bit where he's talking about where some of this money is going to, and he uses pictures. Mr. President, on one other subject... I'll just fast forward this, here we go. To this bit. It's funny. And the pictures are even better. ...of a firm that was awarded $300 million in taxpayer contracts to provide weapons to the Afghan fighters in Afghanistan.

54:53 So he's showing a picture of a 22 year old kid and he says this kid received 300 million dollars to provide weapons. Our state department, our military said the American taxpayers shall pay for weapons to be given to the Afghanis, the fighters in Afghanistan. Well that's probably another debate but one I think most people would say. Anyway, he goes on and he shows another kid, his colleague, because this guy is the CEO and then he's got the chairman of this company which is located in a shack in uh, like in Florida. And this is where the money's going to! $300 million being sent to these punks and then they show the- here's what they actually deliver, they show like a case of old Chinese uh, bullets. It's just- it's a complete frickin' scam.

CHAPTER 23 / 35 Discussion

Geithner and Obama Family Ties, AIG Ownership Thresholds

The hosts discuss a reported connection between the families of Timothy Geithner and Barack Obama, noting that Obama's mother once worked for Geithner's father. They also explain why the US government owns exactly 79.9% of AIG; exceeding the 80% threshold would require AIG's massive debts to be consolidated onto the official US national budget.

timothy geithner· barack obama· aig· warrants· national debt· accounting

55:42 unbelievable and and i saw you pull that that clip for other mexican clip uh... from the press conference last night obama pretty much said it right there he said well you know what we've got to stop is all these illegal guns and all this money going to the drug cartel will yeah it's the government sending the money in the guns and then then we get dope in return it's not that it has a system before we forget this when i get a mention this because it crops up here and there did you know that brocco bombers mom Worked for Geithner's dad. No, you're kidding me. Check it out Go on you can get you guys can all google it and find out the details Obama's mom worked for Geithner's dad and that's you know, there's your connection There's your Geithner's dad. It looks like a kind of a shady character. By the way, there's your Manchurian Manchurian candidate and of course Chris Dodd's wife was a board member of an AIG subsidiary company. Yeah, I got an answer to the

56:46 79.9% of AIG. Remember we were talking about that? Why don't we own all of it? Right. Well, the reason is because first of all, we don't actually own it. We have warrants, that would be the US government for this money that we gave them. We have warrants so that can be changed into I guess common stock ownership for 79.9% because the minute you hit the 80% mark then the company's debts have to be consolidated onto the budget of the acquiring entity which would be the people of the United States. So that's the trick there is keep it off the books. However, at any moment

CHAPTER 24 / 35 Discussion

Michelle Bachmann, Global Currency Inquiry, and Treasury Hearings

Congresswoman Michelle Bachmann questioned Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke on whether they would categorically renounce a move toward a global currency. Bachmann cited calls from China, Russia, and Kazakhstan for an international monetary standard. The hosts praise her direct questioning style and discuss her rising profile in the Republican party.

michelle bachmann· timothy geithner· ben bernanke· global currency· minnesota· treasury

57:26 They can pull the old switcheroo and then we would own it. And I have a new girlfriend. Oh boy, I'm in love. So you've dropped Erin Burnett? Erin Burnett is off the list, man. My new babe, my new babe is Congresswoman Michelle Bachman. Have you ever seen her? Yeah, I vaguely remember seeing her. She's from Minnesota and she has that hot Minnesota twang and she is super, super duper milf. Hold on. Mr. Chairman, thank you for this opportunity. These truly are extraordinary times in our financial service sector since one year ago. So she's got like the librarian glasses on and she's holding the mic tenderly between her

58:18 forefinger ring finger and thumb and it's and but she's she's so smart John she is so and I want to play two pieces but just just let me serve open the feds just open open your mouth so I can kiss you and for Barry Stearns the American people are looking at the end so beautiful you got a picture of her yet I'm all the picture I've got she's an older woman yeah she's milf older woman she's milfy and then she takes her glasses off and she's looking straight into the camera and she's just, oh, dreaming it away. I got a different one. This is a different Barbara Bacman. How do you spell her last name? B-A-C-H-M-A-N, I think is what it is. So anyway, so she asked the Treasury of the Secretary and the Chairman of the Federal Reserve

59:04 uh... if there was going to be if they think this should be new global currency effects of financial collapse and was just seeing both china russian kazakhstan make calls for an international monetary connects that conversion to an international monetary standard as soon as the g twenty and i'm wondering would you categorically renounce the united states moving away from the dollar and going to a global currency as suggested this morning by china and also by russia and you can you imagine waking up in the morning and you've got this beautiful next you saying you know could you just know what she looks like send me a picture I will in a minute let me just I'm getting into her here man and that's your right click on wake up in the morning and she's like oh do you think there will be a global currency maybe I don't know secretary I would yes you a categorical Federal Reserve chair I would also dick could you turn anki anyway so she's uncovered something which I think is beautiful and I just want to play

CHAPTER 25 / 35 Discussion

Public-Private Investment Program, Geithner's Toxic Asset Plan, and Congressional Silence

Secretary Geithner's new Public-Private Investment Program (PPIP) is criticized as a "scam" that uses taxpayer funds to guarantee 90-95% of private investments in bad assets. During a hearing, Michelle Bachmann was cut off by the committee chair while asking if the American people would receive a proportional share of the benefits. The hosts argue the plan effectively bankrolls private profits with public risk.

ppip· toxic assets· fdic· timothy geithner· michelle bachmann· taxpayers

1:00:01 what happens in the congressional hearing when she asked the question. So Geithner... We have a jingle for all our clips. Yeah we do. This is clip day. This is clip day. So Geithner has now presented or has announced his plan what we're going to do to basically solve this quadrillion of derivatives which is sitting out there in AIG mainly. And the plan is a, you've heard this and I'd like to break it down for you, the public private partnership. The public private partnership investment program or some shit like that. I've got a picture, okay. She's hot. She's got like plants in her jaw. She's got what? That big square jaw. She looks like Maria Shriver. No, she's much hotter than Maria Shriver. Just saying.

1:00:52 So the idea is or the illusion is given that private companies are going to participate in buying up these bad assets. But the way it works is the FDIC is going to guarantee and in fact actually pay for 90 to 95% of all of that and the trick now is and there's a link in the show notes the way to make money on this is you if you have bad assets you want to sell them for if possible like 80 cents on the dollar you're going to make 15 cents because the government is going to insure up to 95% of the bad assets and that's coming right off of the taxpayers so it's a complete scam this Geithner scheme complete from beginning to end and she knows it my new babe

1:01:42 My new babe from Minnesota and she asked the question and so she's hammering right down to the core of the bullshit that is coming next which will bankrupt the United States for sure and she gets cut off by twinkle toes listen. Secretary, as I understand it, approximately 90 to 95 percent in the new program that you've just announced yesterday of the funding would come from the taxpayers. Is that true? Or perhaps the leveraging is a 6 to 7 to 1 leveraging on the purchasing of the public-private partnership, the toxic assets that are available. When the returns come back to the American people, will the American people be receiving 90 to 95 percent of the benefit, or will it be another figure? The gentlewoman's time has expired.

1:02:26 Mr. Chair, could I have an answer from the- No, no, no, no, no, no. Is that outrageous or what? She- I told members you can't do that. She asked the question. The question. She can't ask it again. So I don't agree with... She's obviously on the ball. Yeah, I'm looking at her wiki page. We would have some differences but that might make for some really hot sex. Here's some from buzzflash.com which is obviously an Obama site. They call her the next Sarah Palin. She's a crazy, she's an abuse of power, she's a born-again nutball. That's the best kind. They're wild, man. They've got a huge family. Yeah. You know what she's been doing.

CHAPTER 26 / 35 Discussion

Aviation Safety, FedEx Crash in Tokyo, and Michelle Bachmann Vitriol

The hosts review recent aviation incidents, including a FedEx plane crash in Tokyo and a Pilatus PC-12 crash in Montana. They also examine the intense political vitriol directed at Michelle Bachmann on sites like BuzzFlash, where she is compared to Sarah Palin. The discussion notes the extreme language used by critics to describe her intelligence and mental state.

fedex· tokyo· michelle bachmann· buzzflash· aviation· sarah palin

1:03:18 I've actually seen her a couple times, she is quite sharp. She'll be uh... until they find a way to sidetrack her somehow. Well, they might have to take her out back. Well, maybe they can put her in a private plane. With some icing, convenient in the area. A couple more planes went down this week, man. Is it... Oh, before you do that... What is the... hold on a second. Well, well, shall I... Okay, no, go ahead, go with the plane thing, because I was reading something, but it turns out to be... Well, I was just going to say the plane thing. You know, there's all this shit that is happening on Final Approaches. It seems, you know, we had the... And we also had those two ships, another couple of ships bumped into each other. Again? No! Yeah, we talked about Sunday, the submarine and the tanker.

1:04:06 Yeah, yeah, so now we have a FedEx plane which boy that that was a that was a freaking nasty bounce They made in total way. This is Michelle Bachmann. I'm sorry. I said Michelle No, you said Barbara. No. I did not that's why she's from the Dukes of Hazzard You said no she's from Dallas Barbara Bachmann was wasn't she the mom on Dallas so here? I'm looking at this thing from BuzzFlash in this guy. That's why I couldn't find her. It's Michelle. I said Michelle. I'm sorry. Oh I've known Michelle for over, this is a comment on this blog, I've known Michelle for over 15 years personally and politically. Without a doubt she is the most willfully ignorant, doesn't see the stop sign and runs it, and irrationally stupid, sees the stop sign and runs it on purpose.

1:04:50 There is almost no connection between her brain, as small as it is on her mouth, incredibly big. Rarely if ever does she think before she speaks, but loves the limelight and the mic. But alas, the poor empty-headed woman couldn't analyze an issue on any topic. Rationally and constructively, as a resident of her district, I have voted for Sneezy, Grumpy or Sleepy. Unfortunately, only Dopey was on the GOP line. Were she not so headstressed? This guy's funny. I love her. It goes on and on I mean this is that's good. She is nothing Nick the next comment. She's certainly insane Yes, I like her even more now, but she's got her chops. Did you hear the question? She was asking I mean she's got her. Oh yeah, no that was a goodie Yeah, but this is she's obviously gonna be attacked by these local because she's beautiful as usual

1:05:40 It's all the beautiful people who have to bear the brunt. Michelle Bachman, queen of the ultra-right plutocracy. She would be... With a lunatic like this woman in Congress, think about the mental state of the voters who sent her there. Fantastic. I love it. She's great. She is great. Wow, this is the most vitriolic thing. People should go look up Michelle Bachman and then go to buzzflash.com and just check it out. It's hilarious. The commenters are just like mean. On Twitter, on Twitter question is Barney Frank Scooby-Doo? So the FedEx plane bounced hard that sucked but this horrible accident and the minute I read the news report I'm like what?

CHAPTER 27 / 35 Discussion

Montana Pilatus PC-12 Crash, Weight and Balance Issues

A Pilatus PC-12 carrying 17 people crashed in Montana, exceeding the aircraft's maximum passenger capacity of 12. The hosts discuss the technical dangers of overloading single-engine aircraft, which can lead to snap stalls if the center of gravity is compromised. They emphasize the critical importance of weight and balance protocols in small-plane aviation.

pilatus pc-12· montana· aviation safety· weight and balance· center of gravity· stall

1:06:33 So, uh, it's a Pilatus PC-12 with a whole bunch of kids on board, crashed in Montana. Everyone perished. And I was reading this, 17 people, 14 people, I'm like, what? It's called the PC-12 for a reason. The maximum amount of passengers in any configuration is 12, including the two pilots. Right. And they had kids on lap belts and oh, it's the... and you know these things, you gotta be very careful, particularly with these big single engine machines, you know, you can get a snap stall, all kinds of weird shit can happen if your center of gravity is off and if you have too many people on board.

1:07:14 I know, I'm just pathetic. It's so sad. We can put two more in. Can we get two more out there? I can come. We're gonna take a second trip. That'll save us some money. It's like the biggest no-no in the world, you know? And just, jeez Louise. I plan a big single-engine puddle jumper from Boeing Field to Port Angeles. And it's run by one of the great airlines, Little Airlines. I planes and they come in the pilot looks around and says, okay you have to move to that seat. Yeah, it's for weight and balance, absolutely. Yeah, they balance it. He says, you probably should go to that seat. Mr. Dvorak, would you mind just squatting in the aisle for us please? They did have one time on the flight I took, they had some woman that was so incredibly large that they had to make special provisions for her to put her in a certain spot in the plane.

1:08:24 Yeah, it's centered. Yeah, you know, but yeah, yeah, they're very conscientious about that I mean normally so yeah, I was kind of yeah, that's what they say. They said they would plan was overloaded Yeah, it's very very sad But the flaps on the thing just nosedived into the thing. No, I think it's snap-rolled it, you know This particular plane you have to be kind of careful with a couple of things because it will kill you You know, that's what they say great aircraft. You got to follow a couple of simple rules because it will bite you and Ah, so sad. Um... Jay Rockif- hold on a second. Hey! Damn it. You know, people don't give a shit that I'm doing a show. Hold on. No, I think they do give a shit. Sorry about that.

CHAPTER 28 / 35 Discussion

Jay Rockefeller, Internet Invention Regrets, and Cybersecurity Hazards

Senator Jay Rockefeller suggested during a committee hearing that the world might have been better off if the internet had never been invented. He cited cybersecurity as the number one national hazard to the homeland. The hosts mock his comments, pointing out that sensitive databases do not necessarily need to be connected to the public internet.

jay rockefeller· cybersecurity· internet· al gore· homeland security· west virginia

1:09:14 It's nice being next to the galley. There you go, now we got the Shelly Berman moment, ladies and gentlemen. The Shelly Berman moment. I don't understand this reference. There'll be like two old farts that are listening to this show that go, that's hilarious! How does anybody remember that? Please email me when you get that joke. Yes, my friend. Part of the evil elite who actually run the globe, of course, are the Rockefellers. And Jay Rockefeller, who I believe is a senator or congressman, he's part of the lineage. He came out the other day and said something just fantastic, which... Tomorrow, a full committee hearing on cyber security. This guy, by the way, is the epitome of reptilian. Have you ever seen Rockefeller? Oh yeah, yeah. And this comes within our purview on this committee, and it...

1:10:10 I mean, not trying to be dramatic about it, but when the internet was invented by Al Gore, I'd like to point out. Everybody fell flat in their face, they were so thrilled. And the world began to do good. Everyone fell flat in their face and the world was so thrilled. Don't you recall, John? Us falling flat on our faces? It gets better. Business in a different way. Now both the President Bush's Director of National Intelligence, Mike McConnell, who I greatly respect, and... Like that gives him some credits. President Obama's Director of National Intelligence, Admiral Blair, who I greatly respect, have labeled cyber security perpetrated through the internet as the number one national hazard. It's funny, I haven't heard the president say that. Have you heard that? I don't know what he's talking about. Well, he's getting to a point. Of attack on the homeland in West Virginia. By the way, the homeland is West Virginia. Anywhere else.

1:11:20 So, I mean, it really, it really almost makes you ask the question, would it have been better if we never invented the Internet? What a douche. Dumb thing to say. That's it? Yeah, I wish we had... and he goes on, he goes on, we shouldn't have invented the Internet. If we could turn it all back, we would, you know. It's like, ladies and gentlemen, you don't have to connect your sensitive databases to the Internet, okay? You don't have to do that. It's not a necessity. Please. And now, back to Real News. Actually, instead of Real News, we have to take a break here. Because this is the moment... The last Thursday of February we had after I had pitched people to donate to the show, we had our best response. And the problem... It came after we played the Real News jingle?

CHAPTER 29 / 35 Discussion

No Agenda Library Project, Donation Appeal, and Cloud Computing Skepticism

The hosts replay a successful donation appeal from a previous episode to encourage listeners to support the "Curry Dvorak Library Project." They advocate for a value-for-value model over traditional advertising, which they find disruptive to the show's flow. The segment also touches on the hosts' shared skepticism regarding cloud computing and the lack of user control over data.

donation· library project· value-for-value· cloud computing· mevio· podcasting

1:12:17 Well, no. I'm just saying it was at this time in that show that I said the following, I want you to play the donate section which is a plug to get people to contribute to our show. Oh, so we're going to replay what worked previously? Yeah, play it. I mean, I kind of glossed over the article, I just thought it was interesting that Jackie Chan was piping up there. Talking about piping up, by the way, we do need some more people to donate to our... Library. ...little presentation. So I can write. And I'll have the slash library thing done this week. Thanks. The point is that it doesn't hurt, you know, if you listen to this thing, we do an hour and a half, you know, twice a week, so it's three hours. So doing $2 a month is like 25 cents for a show. And notice, there's no commercials, there's no ads in here. It's all...

1:13:11 It's dense. It's very dense. So I don't think it would hurt. Go to Dvorak.org slash NA. And donate to the Curry Dvorak Library Project. Right, which is just fund our publicly funded. It's publicly funded. We're testing the idea. We don't want to do ads. They interrupt the flow of our thoughts and I think it interrupts and I don't want to do these promotions anymore. I'd like to stop doing them but it's not going to, we're not going to for a while because we need to get a lot more people involved. And we have a lot of listeners and you know it's just a matter of, but again you know somebody's listening to this and they're not necessarily at the computer

1:13:53 I'd be listening on iTunes, on iPod and then they forget because I've always found it very difficult to get anyone to connect a TV show to a website or a podcast to a website if they're not actually on the computer at the time. You just forget to go to Dvorak.org slash NA. And if you can't afford it, if we don't feel like it yet, we'll be happy with some link love. Give us a link, that also helps. Yeah, something that you found that is weird. Or just link to us, just link to the show. That also helps. Oh, right. Yeah, link juice. Give us some Google link juice, baby. Hey, we should maybe just touch on that briefly because I know you're so anti-cloud and boy, I was on your side the other morning when... Right. So that's an interesting experiment, John.

1:14:44 Well, you know that's the end of the clip by the way I had to get the cloud thing there's because that's the only time you've ever agreed with me so I left that in. I agree with you lots of times baby. So now on last Sunday where we downplayed this promotion we got like the number of people since Sunday that have gone to our two websites. Has dropped by 90% right? At least. Yeah. There's like total three people. As opposed to the 25 we were getting from that particular one. And so I was, you know, that was because I think that guy wrote us and bitched about the fact that we harp on it. I counted the time on that, by the way, that was 1 minute 58 seconds out of a total of like 90 minutes or more. Yeah, we're not harping by any means of the imagination. Right, I mean we are a little bit now, but generally speaking we don't. Let me just offset that please if you don't mind.

CHAPTER 30 / 35 Discussion

Michelle Obama "Sleeve-gate", UK Primary School Curriculum Overhaul

The media has dubbed the controversy over Michelle Obama's sleeveless dresses "Sleeve-gate." In the UK, a proposed overhaul of the primary school curriculum would remove mandatory studies of the Victorian era and World War II. Instead, the new directives would require students to master digital platforms like Twitter and Wikipedia.

michelle obama· sleeve-gate· uk· education· twitter· wikipedia· history

1:15:36 And now, back to Real News. The word is sleeve-gate, John. No, I haven't heard that one. If nothing else, the hullabaloo over Michelle Obama's occasionally sleeveless attire has reached a fever pitch this month, unleashing a torrent of clever puns from headline writers. She has kind of nice shoulders I have to say. Yeah she works. It's a good look on her. I think she lifts weights. Oh yeah. She and Barack go to the gym every morning he said. Yeah. I guess. No I think she's pretty hot actually. Yeah. But I would prefer to have Michelle Bachman's head on her body. That would be... Now you're talking to women man.

1:16:22 That's a little too much woman. Pupils will no longer have to study the Victorians or the Second World War under proposals to overhaul the primary school curriculum in Gitmo Nation East, according to The Guardian. Oh, I like it. So in other words, Great Britain is going to eschew its own history. Yes, of course. Why would you want to learn about them when the draft plans require children to master Twitter and Wikipedia? The end is nigh Queen Elizabeth rolling over in her grave I can hear a crunch if you're interested I have I have a couple of those new directives You may be a terrorist if and this is from the MIAC that we talked about has that yeah, I've gotten any ink anywhere

CHAPTER 31 / 35 Discussion

MIAC Terrorist Watch List Memo, Gun Control, and Rahm Emanuel

A memo from the Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) reportedly lists supporters of Ron Paul, anti-abortion activists, and fans of the movie "V for Vendetta" as potential terrorist threats. The hosts link this profiling to Rahm Emanuel's efforts to prevent individuals on the terrorist watch list from purchasing firearms. They argue this is a political maneuver to bypass the Second Amendment.

miac· terrorist watch list· ron paul· rahm emanuel· gun control· v for vendetta

1:17:13 uh... amongst nut cases like ourselves and uh... you know that the right wing media here and there but now not generally well let's just do a little checklist for our for our listeners and showing might be a real you might be ten years and if i need this is not a joke no if you get the imagine a humor bit you might be a terrorist if and then you do a bunch of humor right but these are actual real things people are looking at on a second i got a i've got a sound effect And why not, right? Where's my sound effect? Ah, crap. No, there it is. It's called feedback. Yeah, ah, stop. It opened in iTunes, piece of crap. That's not feedback, that's a bling. That was a bling? It sounded like feedback. I have another one. How about this one? The bling stinks. You probably can't even hear that. Alright, you may be a terror- You can check along with these at home. You can play along with the game.

1:18:10 If you're against abortion, against illegal immigration, against gun control, if you're just against paying taxes, you could be a terrorist. Unless of course you're a member of the presidential cabinet or congressional representative, then you're excused. If you're against RFID, universal service programs, you're probably a terrorist. If you're for the US Constitution, for property rights, for national sovereignty and Christian ideologies, you're probably a terrorist. If you've seen Aaron Russo's America Freedom to Fascism, Zeitgeist or V for Vengeance, which is also on the list, you're probably a terrorist. This is unbelievable. What's the source of this? This is from the memo that was sent to the MIAC. Was that Minneapolis? I don't know. Hold on a second. I've got it here. This is the memo that included the wording that if you are a supporter of Ron Paul... It's not a V for Vendetta. Hey, good point.

1:19:19 It is V for Vendetta. Wow, that's a big mistake. Well then I can't read the rest of the article because it could contain more crap, so it's gone. They're all contains crap. That's a bunch of bull. The uh... That's just an excuse to put more people on the terrorist watch list to harass them. This is all political harassment. It's got nothing to do with terrorism. Go Johnny. You know you got some guy, he's a gay, he must be a gay. That means he's obviously a conservative Republican. Put him on the watch list, make his life miserable. And of course you can't own a gun if you're on the watch list. That's what Ramaman you all want. If you're on the watch list, yeah, you didn't know that? No, this is news to me. You're kidding me! This has been around the internet for ages! Well I was, I missed it. I can't read the whole internet. What else do you do in your free time then? I can just see you sitting there in your underwear with your, with your eggs, reading the internet. John! John! It's dinner time! Hold on honey, I'm reading the internet.

CHAPTER 32 / 35 Discussion

Audit the Federal Reserve, HR 1207, and Ron Paul

Congressman Ron Paul's bill to audit the Federal Reserve, HR 1207, has gained 39 co-sponsors and has been introduced in the Senate. The hosts discuss the momentum behind the legislation and the potential for politicians to be intimidated by the "terrorist" labels applied to Federal Reserve critics. They encourage listeners to support the transparency measure.

ron paul· hr 1207· federal reserve· audit· congress· legislation

1:20:19 Another good voice you should use for a clip. Hold on, Rahm Emanuel and guns. Let me just... Oh, so this is just a gun grab. This is another... This is not gonna get anywhere. What is wrong with the Republicans out there? They put up with this crap. Well, I think this is the one. I think this is the... Now, what do we gotta do? Because let's be... And Sarah's right. What do we gotta do? Hey, hey, hey! I'm pointing my half a finger at you, buddy! people's intimidation on this issue is not defined by just Republicans. There are Democrats intimidated by this issue. Wrongly, but intimidated. Oh, hold on. That's not the one. It's from the same speech, but... Yeah, get a clip and we'll run it on Sunday. Anyway, so he says, I believe people who are on the watch list, who are on the watch list for a reason, which includes two-year-old babies,

1:21:16 They're on there for a reason. Yeah, of course, they're fucking terrorists, man. They should not be allowed to purchase guns. It is, you're right, it's the big get the guns out of the people's hands. I do want to put in a plug real quick for Congressman Ron Paul, who does have a house resolution. By the way, if you like Ron Paul, you're a terrorist according to that list. Yes, you are a terrorist. And if you, I guess if you sponsor his bill, 1207 to audit the Federal Reserve which there was an amendment put in place I believe in the 50s which stopped that practice but if you want to overturn that repeal that then you're a terrorist.

1:22:00 I want to give you an update on H.R. 1207, the bill to audit the Federal Reserve. We're making great progress because a lot of you have helped encourage your member of Congress to co-sponsor the bill. We now have about 39 co-sponsors of the bill. It's been introduced in the Senate and we're picking up a lot of momentum. That's pretty good, isn't it? 39? Yeah, that's gonna end once these guys realize that they've now become terrorists. Oh shit, I can't co-sponsor that. I'll be a terrorist. When all of a sudden the terrorists not be members of the various Islamist movements,

CHAPTER 33 / 35 Discussion

George Weber Death, Government Drug Running, and Investigative Journalism

Investigative reporter George Weber was found dead in his Brooklyn apartment. Weber was known for his work at the San Jose Mercury News exposing government involvement in drug trafficking. While some reports suggest a suicide, the hosts speculate on the possibility of foul play given his history of uncovering sensitive government operations.

george weber· san jose mercury news· drug running· brooklyn· homicide· investigative reporting

1:22:46 designed to re-establish a caliphate in the Middle East. Am I getting the connection between abortion and Federal Reserve and these kinds of attitudes? Well, hold on a second. A caliphate in the Middle East, which seems to me where the terrorism stems from and the hatred of Israel. Well, you've clearly exposed the evil elite, John. You're onto them now. I am? Yes, you've done it. I'm doomed. You've done it. Hey, you know George... No private planes for me. You know George Weber? Does that name ring a bell? George Weber? No. I would think it would ring a bell to you. George Weber was the guy who... he was a San Jose Mercury News reporter, I think 70s or 80s, and he exposed the government... Oh, the drug deal. The drug deals, yeah, the government running drug deals. So he was found dead in his Brooklyn apartment with a stab wound to his neck.

1:23:42 an apparent suicide. Is that what it says? No. Is that what you should do? No, they don't, they had, no, they spoke to one for the city medical examiner office. It's happened a dozen times in a suicide attempt. Autopsy results are expected Monday. But he did quite a lot. He really did expose a lot of that, a lot of that drug running on government planes. and uh... yeah i know they do is found it turned out to get fired they've made his life miserably had to leave the bay area and then later when did in certain investigal investigal with congressional investigations it's funny and making them up as i go along as the some congressional investigations of some other reporting done later years yet later prove the guy to be dead right with all kinds of evidence uh... you know meanwhile and what he did after that in those in brooklyn

1:24:39 He's probably murdered. Yeah, probably. I bet you he was all over the Afghan situation. That could be. Who knows? Maybe retired. I don't know. I haven't heard from him. Has he got any bylines floating around out there that we know of? I haven't done enough investigation on it yet. Is there a book that he was just finishing and they had to kill him? Could be. We're going to find out, I'm sure. Well, one good thing about, if you want to call it good, if you're murdered generally in the New York area, they have competent, as opposed to like, say you were in Denver, competent homicide departments that usually at least have a shot at catching the guy. There's a transcript floating around from the Munich Security Conference. Remember we pulled some clips from that a couple shows back?

CHAPTER 34 / 35 Discussion

James Jones, Henry Kissinger, and National Security Chain of Command

National Security Advisor James Jones stated at the Munich Security Conference that he takes "daily orders" from Dr. Henry Kissinger. Jones described a chain of command within the National Security Council that includes Kissinger, Brent Scowcroft, and Sandy Berger. The hosts highlight this as evidence of the enduring influence of the "evil elite" over current US foreign policy.

james jones· henry kissinger· national security council· brent scowcroft· chain of command

1:25:32 And in the transcript, US National Security Advisor Jones, what's his name again? What's his first name? Well, Jones. Here's his quote. Thank you for that wonderful tribute to Henry Kissinger yesterday. Congratulations. As the most recent National Security Advisor of the United States, I take my daily orders from Dr. Kissinger. filtered down through General Brent Snowcroft, uh, Scowcroft, and Sandy Berger, who is also here. We have a chain of command in the National Security Council that exists today. There you go. So, if you want to know who's running the show, it's Kissinger. Yeah, it's always been Kissinger. There was a time when you were very, and within this program you were very skeptical about Zbigniew Brzezinski and Kissinger. I've never been skeptical about the two of them.

1:26:30 And thank you everyone for sending me ideas on where to get the perfect lighter Just so you know even if you buy refillable butane is not you can't sell that to minors You have to be 18 to buy a lighter refill and get my nation east So what does the lighter you bought? What's so good about it? I didn't buy it. It's a butane lighter? No, I just got another one of those throwaways. Well... Because I can't get them. I know which ones are good. It's the oval bicks. The oval bicks are the best. And they're not... Why don't you just get a hold of the Bick Company and tell them to get by a case? Tell them to send us $100,000. We'll give them the disinfo moment of the day. That would be nice. We could do that on the stream even.

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Fibonacci Confluence, No Agenda iPhone App, and Show Sign-off

The show concludes with a discussion of market technicals and the submission of the "No Agenda Mobile" app to the Apple App Store. Dvorak mentions his upcoming appearance on Cranky Geeks and plans to attend the Game Developers Conference. The hosts sign off, confirming the next live stream for Sunday.

fibonacci· iphone app· apple· cranky geeks· game developers conference· adam curry

1:27:15 I've been getting a lot of $6.60 and $66.60. We need to give the call out $666 and you're going to get a good big mention. And a massive mention. Oh, and a... Haven't done it all show. I'd like to throw one into your court just to wind it up. A lot of technical analysts of the markets, which of course have been rallying nicely, uh... say that we have reached the fibonacci confluence levels which of course is uh... is a fractal isn't it? I don't know how the fibonacci thing works, I know Horowitz uses it. I don't know what the formula is, what it's got to do with anything. I have no ideas beyond me. At that point I'm at the end of my ability to comprehend stuff. You have to know your limits. Like every good pilot, you've gotta know your limits.

1:28:18 Alright, I got plenty of stuff. We'll keep for are we gonna do a show on Sunday? Well, why wouldn't we I don't know. I just want to make sure you're around. Are you gonna be around? Yes, and I'll be around. Yeah tomorrow. We've got our big We've got our big Mevo UK producers day, which is cool moody flew in for that. So it's always fun to see him and Oh also wanted to mention there has there's a no agenda iPhone app which has been submitted to the iPhone store and So the, uh... I guess the Apple, uh... people have to check it out or something? They have to review it. Yeah, it's called No Agenda Mobile and on it you can... Uh, there's a button for the stream, a button to access the most recent podcast, there's a, uh... a button that will... help you Twitter directly onto the stream. You know, stuff like that. It's kinda cool. Alright. And, uh, Obama has asked for Kanye West tracks for Air Force One. Oh.

1:29:26 Real news from CNN. That's good stuff. All right, John. How about you? What you doing today? Oh, you have to do a tech 5 top 5 today. No. No, that's tomorrow I do cranky geeks. I'm off my way to the city to do cranky geeks And there's also the game developers conference, which I'm gonna check out. Oh, that sounds cool. Oh, by the way You mentioned something about cranky geeks and I watched the show last week show which is pretty good one The the brilliant quote from yourself that you couldn't remember because let's face it your short-term memory is pretty crappy and Was how come these newspapers are so brilliant yet? They couldn't See their own demise. Yeah, well. I've that's actually I've been saying that for a while. That's not a new one But isn't that what you were talking about that's what you were no it wasn't no that was the only brilliant moment I could pick up from the show except all this you mispronouncing was even one you mispronouncing you Lenov's name every time was cool. Yeah. Yeah, he thought it was funny, too Oh really? Oh good. Is he a nice guy looks kind of like a dick. Oh

1:30:25 He's a really nice guy. He's a great guy to go hang out with. Very down to earth. Okay. I like, probably would appreciate the comment. Yeah. So please don't come over here April 30th because I do have a board meeting. Can we, can you please just hang in San Francisco? Yeah, I'm gonna be in the Queens day. It's already no no no no you know please don't go to the week early I'm gonna be there for a week. Oh John but then I'll never see you over here. Yeah, well, I'll go back again. No you don't care You don't care of all those frequent flyer miles. I intended score. Yeah at a discount all right next show Sunday the stream continues keep the requests coming quick keep sending your Twitters and I'll keep improving it

1:31:14 Coming to you from the crackpot command center in Southwest London and get my nation east I'm Adam curry and from the buzzkill bunker here in northern Silicon Valley a place that really doesn't exist But we think it does I'm John C. Dvorak, and we'll talk to you again next week right here on no agenda or I mean Sunday