Episode 813 · Thursday, 7 April 2016

Clinton Condign

A coordinated media blitz targets the Republican frontrunner while leaked documents reveal the massive scale of George Soros’s influence over European integration and Dutch voters.

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About this episode

Hillary Clinton faced intense scrutiny this week after a high-profile MSNBC interview with Rachel Maddow revealed significant pupil dilation, sparking widespread speculation regarding the use of stimulants like Vyvanse or Adderall. The appearance coincided with a coordinated media strategy where Maddow presented Clinton with edited clips of Donald Trump to elicit a specific reaction. This tactical framing of the Republican frontrunner’s comments on abortion and the Supreme Court suggests a deepening alliance between the Clinton campaign and major media networks.

In the European theater, Vice-President of the European Commission Frans Timmermans declared diversity as humanity's destiny, a sentiment echoed by leaked documents showing George Soros funded a 700,000 euro media blitz to influence the Dutch referendum on the Ukraine-EU Association Agreement. Meanwhile, Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter characterized the extremist ideology of ISIS as a cancer requiring indefinite military intervention, while former Secretary Robert Gates admitted the Pentagon intentionally withholds detailed tactical options from White House civilian leadership. Domestically, Al Sharpton faced criticism for misrepresenting military casualty statistics, as Congressional Research Service data confirms white service members account for the vast majority of combat deaths.

John C. Dvorak shared his unconventional method for managing Argentine ant infestations using a lighter to create witness ants that warn the colony. The show also explored the disappearance of Arthur Treacher’s fish and chips and the rise of PodShare flophouses in Los Angeles. Adam Curry demonstrated the eerie similarities in political rhetoric by pitch-shifting Clinton’s voice to match NYPD officials, while a strange audio glitch in a Detroit corruption report raised questions about AI interference in modern broadcasts.


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CHAPTER 01 / 34 Discussion

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak Open Episode 813

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the Sunday session of the No Agenda show, broadcasting from Austin, Texas, and a mobile rig in Manhattan, New York. Dvorak explains his presence in New York for a family trip while Curry mentions his recent volunteer work at the Bandana Ball for the Ronald McDonald House. The hosts briefly address technical lag and the status of the donation spreadsheet.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· manhattan· austin· bandana ball· ronald mcdonald house· fema region 6

00:00 Here's how I'd like to punish women. First, I'd like to punch them in the gut! Adam Curry and John C. Devorah. And Sunday April 3rd 2016 time once again for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode 813 This is no agenda Yes and this time it really is Sunday from The Violet Crown To The Big Apple on Broadcasting Live From The Capital Of The Drone Star State here In FEMA Region 6 In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from the 18th floor of some godforsaken part of the west side of Manhattan looking at what appears to be construction, I'm John C. DuBois.

00:38 All right, well in the morning to you John. Let me that was that lag was me yeah Okay, but it wasn't the Skype it was all you know I believe so luckily I'm just trying to adjust your sound on-the-fly So John you're in Manhattan today on your mobile rig Yes, which is a little rig which is always challenging with hotel Wi-Fi? I believe that's what you're on right now Yep mm-hmm pretty good seems to be working before we get underway. It isn't even ask you a quick little Question. I saw the spreadsheet today, is this because you didn't get any checks in for the spreadsheet? Right there's...I can't get checks because i'm not...I wasn't it didn't go to the post office Because I look at this spreadsheet again, I slept very little last night we have a hour earlier today I was volunteering at the bandana ball last night for Ronald McDonald house and when I saw the spreadsheet I was like almost I was like I'm gonna go back to bed

CHAPTER 02 / 34 Discussion

Broadway Musical Rush Tickets and Scrounging Tips

John C. Dvorak describes his family's strategy for attending Broadway musicals using "rush tickets" to avoid the standard $250 seat prices. He explains that shows like The Book of Mormon become accessible for $30 if patrons wait until the original cast has moved on. The discussion covers the mechanics of the box office rush, the quality of the seating, and the history of understudies becoming stars.

broadway· musicals· rush tickets· hamilton· book of mormon· mimi dvorak· stubhub· barbara streisand

01:32 And then I thought no wait a minute this must be because there's no checks. There's no checks, okay good No good good. I feel much better now So how you doing in Manhattan? We went to caught in on Friday and we went to play now. We is the whole Dvorak family right oh Yeah, well no. Eric's still in... the shill is still in Washington State with his family Oh okay But everybody else seems to be here He was invited though? Yeah of course Just checking Okay Would have been a huge hassle for him And besides that we like to go to plays Ah okay Eric's not a big play guy Plays or musicals

02:18 Well, the American way of course is musicals. So we go to musicals We do go to plays once in a while if there's something that kind of interesting but generally speaking the musical mm-hmm And I have to say if you want to hear with experience so far yeah Of course now we always go because of the cost prohibitive costs of going to musicals We always get our tickets on at rush What's Rush? Rush is what people should do. The morning of the play, it's an 8 o'clock play you find when the box office opens on that day of the play and then you get in line and buy rush tickets. And rush tickets are just sold at maybe I would say cost to fill up the theater

03:02 Right. And typical play, a Broadway musical currently is around 250 bucks of seat and that's just the regular ticket price on the ticket itself? Yeah. Yeah I got you rush tickets are like 30 Holy moly, is that what the StubHub guys go pick up to sell online? Is that how that works? I don't know what they do but here's the process. Mimi has actually researched this even more than I have. I always knew about their stub and student rush...I mean not stub but Russian Student Rush. And so you want to get these tickets and now there are certain shows your just not going to get. They're just sold out at actually full price point. I would guess Hamilton is sold out. You have to pay

03:46 300 bucks to go to Hamilton at least. And you might have to blow somebody, but that's just... You just wait! I was talking to somebody about this and they said what's the rush? To see any of these plays if you know how the theater works. Not one of these plays is like something so contemporary that you have to go see it today, has been out in the public going from as previews and tests around the country usually for about two years. Generally speaking a Broadway musical has been in the wild for a couple of years before it gets to Broadway. Sometimes they'll even go off-Broadway then Broadway

04:26 And so it's not like this, you know. So for example we haven't seen the Book of Mormon because we were here the last time when it was opening. It was like Hamilton. You couldn't get in and have to pay $250 but we're not doing that there are too many good plays you can get into for thirty dollars which is still high as far as I'm concerned and so you just wait. We'll go see a Book of Mormon probably be able to rush tickets by now I'm hoping and then the difference is well you don't get to see the original actors Oh, well a couple things to think about. This is tips for you people that want to come to New York and do some Broadway scrounging. Okay can't see the original actors first of all let me ask you Adam who played three starring roles in The Book of Mormon?

05:09 I have no idea. And, and I saw Book of Mormon! There you go! And...and I have the playbill even somewhere but i have no idea uh...no The point is that the actors who come in to take over the roles You're still looking at a Broadway musical It's still on Broadway and the actors who come in are never slouches Right except for the Hamilton guy he's a superstar in his own right Right, you'll run into that once in a while. But you might find that the guy who replaces him which will probably happen after they usually only work it for six months maybe... Might be just as good or better

05:53 And a future star, you don't know. Sure sure So it's silly to these arguments that having to rush to see these overpriced plays In fact wasn't Barbara Streisand big breakthrough as an understudy somewhere at one point? That would not surprise me in the least Yeah I think that maybe maybe i'm wrong but I think that was how she started out If you heard is probably true yeah I think everybody was an understudy At one point yeah So that's what we do. So, we get the cheap tickets and the cheap tickets 90% of the time are always... they're damn good tickets! It's not like yeah you're not front row center. And you're not sitting together I presume? Yes Oh really?! Yeah five in a row because Because i have some audio from the Dvorak family inside the theater and it didn't sound like he were sitting together Well play that No lights off! Off!

CHAPTER 03 / 34 Discussion

Disaster Musical Review and Sparks Steak House Meetup

John C. Dvorak reviews the musical "Disaster," a comedy spoof of 1970s disaster films like The Poseidon Adventure currently in previews. He notes the high entertainment value despite doubting the show's long-term longevity. Additionally, the hosts announce a listener meetup at Sparks Steak House in Manhattan scheduled for the following Tuesday to celebrate Dvorak's birthday.

disaster musical· poseidon adventure· sparks steak house· manhattan· mimi dvorak· broadway

06:40 Turn them off! They're too bright, turn them off. That was you, wasn't it? Let's go ready? Turn off the lights! Yeah that was a special audio from me. Sorry. Anyway so the Broadway musical is an American art form and it is an art form It is. It's art. And uh... So we saw- The first play we saw because we just got here and I was trying to see something for the matinee today But we got here and we watched the movie Disaster, which was kind of a musical version of this Poseidon adventure. Oh yeah! Yes it's been a long-running show though isn't it? No no I think is still in previews. Oh okay I'm mistaken. So it was the Poseidon adventure as a comedy? It's entertaining but you can just see when you've seen enough of these look at it go this is entertaining its fun everybody really number famous people up there

07:35 But you can just see it has no legs, it'll never go on the road. It's just one of those things that comes and goes. But really entertaining? I thought so! It was very entertaining. A lot of songs... And so that's what we're doing. Good until Tuesday when I have the dinner and we're already getting people jacked up about coming over to the Sparks bar to hang out Yeah, well then what's the time eight o'clock? Is that would you want it? Yeah, this one sparks or go to dinner there and then you know We take we have a dinner at six Go up to the Dvorak table and go and then just walk away. That's what Mimi says is gonna happen

08:13 They will now. They're all gonna come and they're gonna pester you, and I think that's great! Yeah me too take pictures! Oh good man i'm glad to end this and your birthday is uh... Tuesday. It's Tuesday right okay so you're flying back on Tuesday no you have the dinner on Tuesday? I'm sorry I gotcha I got ya dinner on Tuesday well good man I'm happy for you Well, thank you. You have fun right now so the weather is very strange it was hot and muggy yesterday And now it's windy and cold classic New York bullcrap Yeah, it happens okay well meanwhile lots of things going on and I Let me see let me start today with Euroland Frans Timmermans who I think is the he see the vice

CHAPTER 04 / 34 Discussion

Frans Timmermans and European Diversity Mandates

Frans Timmermans, Vice-President of the European Commission, is criticized for his recent remarks regarding diversity as "humanity's destiny." Adam Curry recounts a personal interview with Timmermans in the Netherlands, labeling him a globalist elite. The hosts analyze Timmermans' rhetoric, suggesting his push for integration and diversity is a threat to traditional European peace and freedom.

frans timmermans· jean-claude juncker· european union· netherlands· migration crisis· diversity· bilderberg

09:06 Chairman of the he's a what's his face is number one guy who was the president over there? Is that Borosso? No, not Borosso. Anyway... Juncker and maybe he's Junker's guy yeah I think you're right he's Junkers guys so yeah so Frans Timmermans was Assistant Secretary of State to the Netherlands. When I met him, this was at the radio station that eventually got burned to the ground. That's why we have to do this on the run! We do! I'm on a lamb and I don't know if you recall me telling you the story about him but

09:44 I said, you know, during the interview. So you're a Bilderberger? He says yeah and then we were kind of laughing about that I'm saying, okay so you're one of the elites who was changing us to the new world order. And it was all funny but he's a very smart guy and he really travels or used to travel with The Queen before we had The King and would go to all these what he called sales calls. And i like that he said that but then after that interview he pulled me aside he said, You know you're really doing something important here just keep doing that which to me at the time meant either uh he's going to

10:20 Either he's telling me, hey you're so right the new world order is coming and just sit back and watch the fireworks because you can't stop it anyway. Or maybe he was saying help get me out of the New World Order either way He's propagating his one world, one new world order meme in the European Parliament as he did just the other day. And of course this comes down to migration slash refugee crisis and I'd say it's migration more than anything. Diversity is now in some parts of Europe seen as a threat. And I was in the Netherlands five years after kind of the start. You could see everything that is now coming to head, you could see these integration issues because these countries in Europe are just not immigration countries but that's not acceptable! That's not what we're going to do people were back to the multicultural society except we're not gonna call it that anymore. Diversity is now in some parts of Europe seen as a threat diversity comes with challenges

11:37 But diversity is humanity's destiny. There is not going to be, even in the remotest places of this planet a nation that will not see diversity in its future. That's where humanity is heading. Like it! You better like it, slaves! Those politicians trying to sell to their electorates a society that is exclusively composed of people from one culture are trying to portray a future based on the past that never existed therefore that future will never be. Hold on... So in the past was never just countries?

12:18 Is that what I understood him to say? Well, there were fiefdoms. Yeah but that's the same thing! Not really... He said well he says it was never and we were never culturally integrated is that true do you think we were just all one big mass of people That's bullcrap. Thank you. That never existed Therefore that future will never be. Europe will be diverse like all other parts of the world we'll be diverse. The only question is how do we deal with that diversity? My answer to that is by ensuring that our values determine how we deal with diversity and not giving up our values to refuse diversity. Hold on, let me hear him again... This guy I messed this up but didn't have enough sleep but i probably need to slow him down do the scary voice on him he would be great with this little spiel

13:04 You know what I mean? Yeah. ...and not giving up... Yeah, that's actually a great spiel! Let me hear what he says here. Ensuring that our values determine how we deal with diversity and not giving up our values to refuse diversity Not giving up our values to refuse diversity?! What? Yeah, I'm not understand... it's a written statement. So let me listen to what he is saying here. Hold on. Why don't you back up? Yeah, I am going to back it up just a tad here. ...that diversity and my answer to that is by ensuring that our values determine how we deal with diversity and not giving up our values to refuse diversity

13:46 What the hell does that mean? I don't know, it doesn't mean anything. He's an insane person Yeah i think so That will bring us down as a society If we don't get this right... ...I truly believe Europe will not remain the Europe we've built Europe will not remain a place of peace and freedom for very long Wooo! What is that supposed to mean? We're all gonna die Oh okay, that makes sense War, I think, is what he's saying I hired as war. Oh, if we don't do it? Bleh! What does diversity have to do with... you know that's what he's trying to... what he really means is integration Yes but you can't say multicultural You can't say integration So he was using diversity because that really works Yeah i think that diversity really is a good word oh yes just diverse

CHAPTER 05 / 34 Discussion

New Speak and Spreadsheet Discrepancies

The hosts experiment with "new speak" terms such as "native incumbent citizen privilege" and "non-disabled" as satirical social commentary. John C. Dvorak notes significant errors in the current donation spreadsheet, mentioning that a large contribution from Dame Astrid is missing. They decide to proceed with the available data while acknowledging the numbers are currently inaccurate.

new speak· native incumbent citizen privilege· non-disabled· donation spreadsheet· eric olson

14:42 I admit it, John. Have you not been trying since our last show once in a while just trying out the new speak we learned? I caught myself using it from time to time. From time to time! Like what? Um like I have native incumbent citizen privilege and tried that one on a couple people and uh... You know that uh... Just all these ways to describe people. Not old people but people of advanced age. I've been working on that And people look at me very oddly. Oh, I call people non-disabled! Yes? Hey you look like a fine non disabled guy don't ya?! I got so many emails from people saying wow this is good we've been trying it out fantastic By the way just opened the spreadsheet mm-hmm the spreadsheet is wrong

15:39 Like really, really wrong? Yeah like really, really wrong. Okay so what do we do with the spreadsheet? I'm gonna send a note to Eric and maybe he can fix it or not fix it...I don't know but its way off this there's a bit- I mean Astrid, Dame Astrid came in because I got the email about nine o'clock yeah with $250 and that's not even on there! Yeah it is, It's online Oh well then I'm wrong about being wrong but the numbers are wrong okay I know for a fact Hmm. Alright, yeah we only- oh okay well we'll get to that in a moment no worries I'm sorry got distracted Ehh no worries it's okay It's okay Cause you normally don't...I know what your range is for complaining about the spreadsheet Mmhmm

16:18 And when I saw the number, I said well that's within his range. He's not going to complain about it No no But you complained about it So I had to go check and now I see its off by a lot It fits on one screen today Well at least give those credits away You have to do it on the next show or something There is no good man there's no good Well these guys This whole diversity thing I think is really just an anti-western civilization thing To be honest about It doesn't really make a lot of sense. Hmm, it's to me it sounds more still sounds more like New World Order control mechanism something is wrong with the I mean, I think diversity is fine to a point but Not when you're just destroying the culture that you had right seems to be what's going on to me right? That's what the British are complaining about

CHAPTER 06 / 34 Discussion

Ukraine-EU Referendum and George Soros Funding

A Dutch advisory referendum regarding the Ukraine-European Union Association Agreement is set for April 6. Leaked documents reveal a 700,000 euro media campaign funded by George Soros to influence Dutch voters toward a "yes" vote using cultural imagery like Tijl Uylenspiegel. The hosts discuss the potential for this referendum to fuel Brexit sentiment and the perceived corruption in the Ukrainian government.

ukraine· netherlands· european union· referendum· george soros· tijl uylenspiegel· brexit· media campaign

17:19 What do you mean? Well, they...you know I mean if you listen to UKIP there talking about the British structure. The British society is not going to be British anymore. Oh yeah of course! That's exactly what they're saying in your...I mean this is more fodder for a Brexit for sure. Saying no pretty much you can't have your own identity this is way that the way the world is going and everybody just has to live with it and shut up slave that's how that's just it done And the shut up slave thing is really coming to a head in the Netherlands right now. It's... so, the Ukraine-EU Ascension Treaty is coming up. Well actually it has been ratified by most of the EU countries so that Ukraine

18:10 I'm not quite sure exactly the parts of the deal, but it is a pathway into the EU itself. Although they're saying well that'll take awhile and... But we have to have better trade agreements and the Dutch people who are still reeling from the loss of several hundred of their citizens from, well they don't really know. Did Russia shoot it down or not? Apparently in all the reporting that we're seeing the Dutch government never even really used or even possibly saw the radar images the US made available So a smaller kind of upstart party Guys I know they're kinda douchebags and I think they did it as kind of joke

18:52 But not really, they started a referendum and they legally got the amount of signatures necessary for the referendum. And now on the 6th of April there will be a Dutch referendum which is an advisory referendum This is what I like! And the Dutch are all like oh yes this is so fantastic we get to determine the future We're going to help with democracy, we don't want this Ascension Agreement and we're gonna have a referendum this is really fantastic But if you look at it, the referendum is only an advice to the government. They do not have to follow this advice and now the thinking is that they'll just say oh that was great thanks for your advice so we'll move on but what is interesting in this... And I have all the documents The Ukrainian government was hacked with some of their computers and I have a full spectrum of documents regarding

19:47 Here it is, Netherlands referendum media campaigns. So the government of course they want a yes vote and it's very simple if you look at the ballot yes no although it looks like we have some unique opportunity for this to go wrong because you have to fill in the red square completely there's a circle inside the red square and if you mark anything outside of that then it'll be invalid yeah it's like a hang-and-chad thing It's ridiculous The pictures will be in the show notes So, the Dutch government of course they want to have a positive outcome with the referendum. And they have put together a media campaign and so I have a couple things that they will be doing but also who is funding this and who is directly funding this campaign? Funding money into the Dutch government

20:40 So this is the media campaigns they're looking at and this has been ongoing. It's almost time for the referendum itself, but this is now the first time that documents are coming up. Proposed idea The core of the emotional campaign is designed to resonate with the hearts and minds of the Dutch people through familiar cultural images One of them is Tijl Uylenspiegel a folklore character popular in the Netherlands Belgium and Germany moreover Richard Strauss composed a tone poem Till Oellenspiegel's Lustige Streiche in 1894-1895 which illustrates the cultural significance of the character. Today he serves as an illustration of a hipster adventurist who could be played both by adults and children thanks to his unique appeal to all ages

21:23 The campaign will focus on the musical dedicated to Tal Aydyn Spihol performed by Ukrainian musical prodigies, a 10-year old Anastasia Bainska and Roman Sasnyachin. and a duo of young violinists. And despite their young age, the performances will be performed in Dutch to show their skills and how much we're alike." And they really go deep into this about make the kids...make them blonde so they look like Dutch children. It's really abusing children actually! The media campaign contains the right photos of how this will work it's very typical although you never see these documents

22:05 But what is damning, is the 700.000 euros to pay- and I have the meeting memo, the notes everything between marketers of the Prime Minister of The United States and representatives of this person's organization Can you guess which organization it is or who the person behind it? With a 700.000 euros to support the Dutch government with their campaign? Soros First guess, your right Direct payment to the Dutch Government Why?! Well, to protect his stuff. We've been through this. Yeah I know...I'm just saying it so you can talk about something. Well yes, I think Soros has lots of interest in Ukraine seems to be? Lots of people have interest in Ukraine. He's somewhat behind a lot of this. But he is behind tons! I would argue the whole Maidan may have been part of his doing

23:06 Yes, we've always said... You think Kagan's are working with the Soros' I don't think so. Why not? Because i've never seen that connection made That would be a bad connection to have in public, I'll tell you that Yeah Glenn Beck would be all over it Yeah, is no good Anyway So It will be interesting to see and the Dutch usually when they feel screwed over they make a lot of noise and then kind of like go back put their head in the sand Sad to say Alright, so we will keep an eye on that obviously. So I did a little editing since i had a little extra time on my hands. You know I was kind of fascinated by what I've been able to do with Hillary talking. Okay alright Now I want you to play this clip it's a little long but I want you play... This is Hillary Plain. Mm-hmm okay

CHAPTER 07 / 34 Discussion

Encryption Rhetoric Transmogrification and Pitch Shifting

Adam Curry demonstrates audio manipulation by pitch-shifting a clip of Hillary Clinton discussing impenetrable encryption. The modified audio makes Clinton sound like Face the Nation host John Dickerson and NYPD official John Miller. The segment highlights how the same political rhetoric on cybersecurity and ISIS is echoed across different public figures.

hillary clinton· john dickerson· john miller· encryption· cybersecurity· isis· pitch shifting

24:06 But impenetrable encryption provides significant cybersecurity advantages, but may also make it harder for law enforcement and counterterrorism professionals to investigate plots and prevent future attacks. ISIS knows this too." At the same time, there are legitimate worries about privacy network security. Yeah okay right now so I've decided to go with people so i'm now using my abilities yeah yes your skills are uh this is this if anyone watches face the nation they know John Dick Dickerson or Dickinson

24:50 This is Hillary, the exact same thing transmogrified into John Dickinson. Impenetrable encryption provides significant cybersecurity advantages but may also make it harder for law enforcement and counterterrorism professionals to investigate plots and prevent future attacks. ISIS knows this too At the same time, there are legitimate worries about privacy network security and creating new vulnerabilities that bad actors including terrorists can exploit. That works for me! Yeah I was impressed with my own ability there. Very good. How much did you slow her down for that?

25:37 That was a pitch change. It's all it was, and she wasn't slowed down. Now this one is... You remember that stooge that was on 60 Minutes? John Miller! He was an NSA guy. Now he's with the New York Police. Same exact feed. Impenetrable encryption provides significant cybersecurity advantages. It may also make it harder for law enforcement and... Good, I like that! Okay John Miller yes? And you want me to continue? I don't have any more there's only two I got that worked

CHAPTER 08 / 34 Discussion

Hillary Clinton Dilation and Rachel Maddow Interview

During an MSNBC interview with Rachel Maddow, Hillary Clinton's pupils appeared extremely dilated despite the bright studio lights. The hosts speculate on the cause, ranging from attraction to Maddow to the use of stimulants like Vyvanse or Adderall. They contrast Clinton's appearance with Maddow's constricted pupils and discuss the psychological impact of pupil dilation on perceived trustworthiness.

hillary clinton· rachel maddow· msnbc· dilated pupils· vyvanse· adderall· visual cues

26:21 What are you trying to say that she's a tranny? I mean, what do you what are you trying to say about Hillary? It doesn't take much to make her sound like a man. Let's put it that way. I noticed something else about Hillary because I did a lot of editing myself actually the White House and everybody has been editing these days and they have a little package to share with you later on MSNBC Rachel Maddow had interview with Hillary Clinton And I always saw that. Did you notice anything? Because they had extreme close-ups, which i like...I like seeing someone's face for a long time filling the screen because you get to really see their visual cues. Did you notice anything when you watched that interview? No! Hillary Clinton... I didn't notice what your getting at it. I didn't notice that. Hillary Clinton's pupils are extremely dilated

27:08 Now, and I looked at Rachel Maddow and her pupils were very small. She has...Rachel Maddow has beautiful brown eyes! I do want to add that. There was a lot of lights and i've been in studios and this is women particularly are always disappointed by how their eyes look on television unless, you know that's why you have a lot of makeup on your eyelashes and everything to kind of detract from the smaller pupil. Yeah, you get a pinhole for her pupil because it is so bright in there So I don't know what she is doing to have these dilated pupils Something but I'm you know, I'm actually irked now that I didn't notice this well and and I went and so I was searching around us in your Google search term Hillary's dilated pupils did no one has noticed this But there is a study that shows That people trust people much more by a factor of three than

28:02 if their pupils are dilated? Well, the reason for that is because I know other studies... Uh-huh. ...that indicate that if you're with someone and you were dating... Mm-hmm. ...that your pupils dilate if you're attracted to the person you're with. Well, that's even better than my theory! You telling me Hillary has the hots for Rachel?! That would indicate yes. Yes. Even under the bright lights. That's why people do when you I think a secondary that people let you know trust People who would have dilated eyes because there's this signaling would be You see somebody with dilated eyes, that means they're attracted to you You would be more trusting of somebody like that right well Rachel had no vibe for cuz her pupils were little pinholes She doesn't like old women

28:55 But, you know... and I really focused on him. And I wound it back and looked again. And there are two... Strangely enough at a certain point it almost looked like the eyes were doing... and I don't... I've never studied someone like this so it's a first impression It looks like the eyes were being controlled by some other entity They're telling a whole different story Like there is a lizard inside! There can see it! There is a lizard inside But your pupils... I don't know, there's something we used to use called star drops back in the day. I don't think those are probably illegal you put them in your eye and like pow! Your pupils would dilate for television but it didn't last long

29:37 And I'm pretty sure it was not good for you, whatever that crap was. Sure it's not good for me. So maybe Hillary is just on the Vyvanse or the Adderall or whatever and bore something. Well, I'm not sure what... And people in like chat room were saying contact lenses! No, no. I know how to spot contact lenses. These are not contact lenses. No. Now go look at it. Go look at the video. I have it in the show notes by coincidence. Anyway so I don't know which of the SSRIs or anything that Hillary would be normally taking. I mean, I think...I know marijuana will dilate some people's eyes but this definitely not what she's drinking. Yeah but that comes with redness! I don't know about cocaine whether it dilate eyes are not somebody might want to look it up? I'm pretty sure does could be something that simple hmmm But I think the idea is she got the hots for Rachel. Rachel, I liked that one better than anything It's a good...I'm in

30:35 It was just... and I'll say beautiful. Her eyes, you know they're clear But the pupils were big and you and you he was listening to the words I'm like this woman is evil, but then I'm looking at I think she looks kind of nice and trustworthy. I felt it And this is before I'd even searched for the whole meaning behind the dilated pupils yeah Well that'll pay off for her Hopefully and as I said I probably do that after we thank some people I want a little package I put together of Hillary and Rachel But first, over to the White House who were doing their very own editing and since the government did it I would say this is censorship. It was very disturbing. A number of things happened in Washington DC we had the big nuclear summit

CHAPTER 09 / 34 Discussion

White House Censorship of Francois Hollande

The White House is accused of censoring a video of French President Francois Hollande during the Nuclear Security Summit. In the official whitehouse.gov video, the phrase "Islamist terrorism" was replaced with silence in the audio track. The hosts argue this was a deliberate attempt to align the footage with President Obama's refusal to use the specific term when discussing ISIS in Syria and Iraq.

francois hollande· barack obama· white house· censorship· islamist terrorism· syria· iraq· nuclear summit

31:32 I'm sure everyone saw the video of the president and, you know we had what's her name? The twerp. Susan Rice and Watermelon Head Carrie... Everyone is on one side And then on the other side it was all the other people seemed like You know we had people from Japan From South Korea We had President François Hollande And President François Hollande, he speaks French and everyone's listening in on...and in hindsight when you watch Obama's face as a little earpiece and looking at him intently listening to the translation. Here is what he had one point said and this is only the transcript because I have the transcript and this is the official White House transcript which has always been hidden it was never released paired with video

32:23 François Hollande said in the translated version, but we're also well aware of the roots of terrorism. Islamist terrorism is in Syria and Iraq We therefore have to act both in Syria and Iraq And this is what we're doing within the framework of The Coalition Now that's what he said What is wrong with what he said? I don't know why I'll read it again But were also well aware of the roots of terrorism Islamist terrorism is in Syria and Iraq What did he say wrong Islamist terrorism is in Syria and Iraq. Yes, what did he say wrong? I don't know! Islamist terrorism You can't say Islamist terrorism Why? Because that's not what the president says No one said none of... This is what this huge debate has been about But this was Hollande wasn't it?

33:21 Sitting across from Obama. I think he can say it, he's our president that never says it Let's listen to the video as posted on whitehouse.gov When it comes to fighting against these terrorists we're also making sure that between Europe and the United States there can be a very high level coordination but we also were aware not the roots of terrorism There you go. They cut it out and put a silence in, and then just pick it up again. What? Are you kidding me?! No sir! And you can hear it they actually put silence in there didn't just edit it they put silence in here listen again. Click gone and then they come back. They took it out

34:15 That is censorship. That's a scandal! That is censorship I would think, I think you should give yourself clip of the day for that. Thank you? I think I deserve it. Holy mackerel, that's astonishing. It's an outrage! That's an outrage and what gall does it take to do that? And so poorly done they just like... Why don't they just go... They probably were cutting and pasting in QuickTime or something. Totally totally wrong. Let's listen one more time and really listened to the silence that appears in this clip. So we're not the roots of terrorism

34:58 And then they go, and they miss that whole sentence. Again the sentence, but we're well aware of the roots of terrorism Islamist terrorism is in Syria and in Iraq. Then he says there and therefore have to act in both Syria and Iraq and that's what were doing within the framework of the coalition Wow Unbelievable I mean how anal are you? Because, oh we don't want the press to... I guess it's... Oh let's not have the press pick up on it. That's a great sound but we can't have that! Oh no no no! And I would say along with that comes... See, the right-wing radio talkers have always been bitching about this. This thing that the president... In fact, Hannity on TV does it too. The president will not say Islamist terrorist. Correct correct yeah and then you've never heard him say it he doesn't say it I think is because he's a Muslim. I know your thoughts John probably. I'd go along with Daniel Pipes on this

CHAPTER 10 / 34 Discussion

Ashton Carter and the Cancer of ISIS

Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter addresses ROTC members regarding the criteria for defeating ISIS in Raqqa and Mosul. Carter describes the extremist ideology as a "cancer" that requires constant military intervention even after territorial defeat. The hosts criticize Carter's suggestion that the military may need to address Americans who have "lost their way" and are inspired by ISIS domestically.

ashton carter· isis· syria· iraq· raqqa· mosul· department of defense· rotc

36:00 Now, to go along with this I picked up audio is not fantastic because it was a weird location. It was kind of impromptu and this of course where they were their slack in shutting people up This was a...I think it was veterans or some guys were ROTC. This question fact was asked by an ROTC guy to the Defense Secretary Ashton Carter. I've never liked this guy, but don't like his background. I just don't like how he talks. He seems like he's a total shill for the military industrial complex." And there was something about how he was talking...I think you'll hear in the beginning, the serviceman asks, what is mission accomplished in this? When are we done? What does it win

36:49 And his response was cavalier. I don't know, you tell me...I may be just seeing things that don't like the guy or hearing things in this case but none of it sounded very pleasant. My question for you is uh..you mentioned how we're going to defeat ISIS and what i was curious about whether or not you had some specific criteria that needs to be met before your satisfied that we are mission completed with the next Alright, so what are the specific criteria that need to be met in order to say mission accomplished? Can you hear this at all John or is this gonna be too tough for now I can hear it. Okay So first of all, as we know is he has to come up with a story First

37:35 and foremost, and absolutely necessary but not sufficient is to defeat them in Syria and Iraq. This is interesting because it's exactly what Olanda said which was also taken out of the video We first and foremost although not sufficient we have to beat them In Syria and Iraq If this is true why don't we just go in and really do it? That's my question Because we're not. We're kind of pussyfooting around, we got guys from the Pentagon in there, guys from the CIA but it doesn't seem like we're actually doing that. Sorry? Our thesis is that we're not doing it for a good reason! We don't want to do it. Yeah, we don't want to do it. Yes, we want...to fill up Europe with nastiness. Yeah because they want diversity here you go! Have some diversity

38:29 and that means a number of things but importantly it means taking away from them the cities of Raqqa in Syria and Mosul in Iraq. And thereby making it plain to all that there is not going to be state based upon this ideology so that's, that is necessary It's not gonna be sufficient by way that needs to be followed by questions governance there So here he is with this cancer thing again, and here's what I don't understand.

39:29 Somehow he has the idea we can go in and we can just remove ISIL from Syria and Iraq. But yet that's not enough because it's cancer, so it's gonna keep popping up everywhere... And while we will be supporting governments- It's the same fucking thing! While I'll be supporting governments with military stuff We'll still have our- What is it? The Delta Force or what was that? instant kill you force. I forget, it was ETF like fuck i forget what the whole term was for but yeah we'll be sending guys in to go shoot these guys you know they're no direct threat to the USA just gonna be killing people all day! You can't stop the cancer there's no cure for cancer! Pops up a little bit in Afghanistan and a little here and there in the Marina

40:21 in those places. Each of them is a somewhat different context and history. To get back to the early on, we have to protect our own country both from the possibility Now, so here's the Secretary of Defense saying but we lost their way. Yes. We also have to go after people

40:58 Does the military go after people in America who have lost their way and are confused and inspired by ISIS? Lost their way. Lost their way! And why is this Secretary of Defense saying we have to- Is that his job, do we put military on the streets? No... We need to protect ourselves against that sort of unconfident we can do all We're gonna do all that in addition to everything else we need to do. That sounds like Trump, we're going to do all that I promise you! We are going to do all that don't worry about it. People complain about what is this guy talking about? He's just generality bullcrap. Yeah, we are not confident we can do all of it. We're gonna do all that in addition to everything else we need to do. We're that good but its going to take a lot of effort.

CHAPTER 11 / 34 Discussion

Robert Gates on Pentagon Information Control

Former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates suggests in a Fox News preview that the Pentagon intentionally withholds detailed military options from White House staff. Gates implies that civilian leadership often lacks the understanding to handle complex military data. The hosts discuss this as evidence of the military-industrial complex operating independently of presidential oversight.

robert gates· pentagon· white house· military industrial complex· libya· fox news

41:47 Well, what's worse is he saying we're going to do all that. Now we still do not have the official strategy from our president what we are really going to do You know, this is overdue now. I can't do anything! Well yes and thank you that's...that is the to my point to your point uh there's an interview I think it's tonight with Robert Gates former defense secretary the guy who was no wait Robert Gates FBI and then was he? No, Robert Gates was Defense Secretary right right And there's an interview coming up or I don't know if I missed it or not but just listen to the preview

42:31 About how the military industrial complex inside the Pentagon itself really thinks about the White House and the presidency. And tonight Fox News takes an in-depth look at the fight against terrorism, what the White House is doing and could be doing better Former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates talks about his reaction during the crisis in Libya I don't want any military plans or options going to the White House that i haven't seen. I mean you write it a little bit more bluntly, you say don't give the white house staff too much information on the military options they don't understand it pretty much there's a little more blunt wow those dummies don't get it and he just laughs at him yeah we just wouldn't tell them too much about what we were doing What a douche

43:23 Wow. Well, that's the way it works. That just so we're understanding... And don't tell them how much money we're spending! Tell them we can't audit the Pentagon, it's not possible! We're too busy! And all those systems none of them are compatible! We're too busy man! Just too busy! Snookering the American public what a waste. Yeah I concur. Hey did you uh no let me ask you differently But looking at the April Fool's jokes that were put on... I didn't look at them. No, I didn't look at them either but of course... April Fool's has been ruined by the internet. The April Fools jokes don't make sense anymore because they can crop up at any time other than April 1st Well it's even worse than this! I stopped doing that. You know what you did great in April Fools jokes. I used to be one of the great people in the April Fools gags hall-of-fame Oh is that? In which state is that? It's a hoax. Okay look it up Hoax Hall Of Fame and find one of my April Fools jokes. No way! I've had a number good ones

CHAPTER 12 / 34 Discussion

April Fool's Day Hoaxes and Silicon Valley Humor

The hosts lament the decline of April Fool's Day humor, citing "lame" corporate jokes from Google and Open Table's "lickable menus." John C. Dvorak argues that the internet has ruined the timing and believability of traditional hoaxes. They also critique Elon Musk's Tesla Model 3 presentation, comparing it unfavorably to the showmanship of Steve Jobs.

april fool's day· elon musk· tesla model 3· open table· google· steve jobs· austin chronicle

44:27 But I won't do them anymore because it's senseless. The internet has ruined April Fools, and then Google came along and made it worse with their lame incessant April Fools' game. This is what I wanted to talk to you about! Oh that thing you're talking about is just stupid It's not just that one open table open table What have been using for years? Send me an email we're announcing lickable menus so you can taste what you're going to eat This is so insulting and in and you put that next to the hold on a second April Fool's gags have to have some Foot in reality, it has to be kind of a hoax of some sort that they could actually be believed And then it has to be given away. That isn't April Fools gag somehow in the gag That's the rules the way I see him. I don't care what anyone else thinks mm-hmm now that gag for one thing is

45:28 Open tables online. Yeah, so how is it even possible to give you a menu that you could lick and taste the food? You're going to eat. So it's a nonsense joke! Yes yes this is my point an immediate violation of the April Fools rules. What I'm saying is we have lost our humor as a country. We used to be so phenomenal with fabulous jokes, we were the humor capital of the universe! We have relegated into dumb-ass Silicon Valley dockers and khaki A-hole jokes And it goes even further Did you see Elon Musk announce his new battery car?

46:10 My God you have to see this presentation the X yeah, and no e The cheap one the $35,000 car. It's what is it doesn't exist yet? Whatever it's called Yeah that one and the three I think it's a third model a Model 3 Model 3 That's why so he could have the word sex s ex the three of course as E and max or yeah As his cars Ha ha ha ha. But listening to the people in the audience and he's obviously doing a form of Steve Jobs, but you know what? This is where people really need to appreciate what Steve Jobs did

46:58 This man was an entertainer. It's the reason why Pixar is incredibly successful, this is his vision and his DNA in this company he understood entertainment and real stage presentation everything else is a sad, sick facsimile just pathetic! And this what getting reported over and over these stupid April Fool jokes we're losing our humor Well, the April Fool's jokes I have not seen one that was worth even... That's why didn't pay any attention to it. Because last year I decided that was all over for April Fools' jokes They're not funny they are out of time because of the internet you don't know when the thing was written But people actually having... It can become a hoax People actually having meetings and oh! I got a great idea let's do we'll tell them We have tasteable menus when you lick them just lick him on your phone I think it was even that bad lick him on your phone And then Austin The Chronicle

47:57 Which is our weekly, it's a... It's the Weekly Hippie Journal. Front page! Our newest resident and there's a picture of Obama Yes he after Southwest he so happy He and Michelle will be moving to Austin Hilarious So dumb Disturbing and disappointing by all measures disturbing very very disappointing I have a... well, before we go into it. How's the spreadsheet doing? Did you get anything we need or what are we doing? No, I can't fix it! So we're just gonna do the spreadsheet as is? I heard back from Eric he goes as soon as he does the spreadsheet and stops listening to the show. Ah yeah, gotcha Well then we'll just do the spreadsheet as it is today Nah that's fine It's the way it is, its sad your right Then we'll fix anything It's not that much better than the way it is but at least we get one executive producer

CHAPTER 13 / 34 Discussion

Al Sharpton and Military Casualty Racial Statistics

Al Sharpton is criticized for claiming on MSNBC that a disproportionate number of "black and brown" service members die in Middle Eastern conflicts. Adam Curry cites a 2015 Congressional Research Service report to debunk this, noting that white service members account for the vast majority of casualties. The discussion also revisits racial statistics from the Vietnam War to challenge common historical narratives.

al sharpton· msnbc· military casualties· vietnam war· congressional research service· race relations

48:53 And then we'll hear from the people we didn't mention. Good, good. But let me do one more little bit and then we'll go thank you... That's a short list today so... One person! Um but I think i've caught a new Black Lives Matter racial meme that needs to be uh.. We need to keep our eye on it because it is false but it is also really it's a horrible thing to do and of course this would come from only one guy who's the guy that makes all the crap when it comes to race in United States of America? That man is of course Al Sharpton And he was on the Morning Joe's with MSNBC, and they were talking to... Of course there are some other guests whose name I didn't catch. But at the end of this

49:30 The guest says something and sharps and agrees vehemently. And has made that statement, if you look at a saying... But Al on policy issues... That's where a lot of the things are divided. If you look at policy issues she is a step back from Barack Obama She was always the most aggressive on military response in every cabinet meeting She supported intervention in nation changing in Iraq she supported this same in Syria She supported the tripling troops in Afghanistan She was always the most aggressive Okay, what the guest said

50:28 is of the US military that is being sent into the Middle East and doing all of this nation building, and regime change, and propagating democracy. That of those military men and women a disproportionate amount who die are brown or black I did something really crazy I went looked it up little fact check Uh-oh. The Congressional Research Service released a report January 2015, that's the most recent one I could find and it is American War and Military Operations Casualties Lists and Statistics. And besides calling out these douchebags as liars and hateful race insiders, I learned a lot of interesting things about

51:30 you know, about all the way. This starts with the Revolutionary War and you can see exactly how many people died during the Revolutionary War of service personnel, of course and the Civil War in the war of 1812... And it's really quite amazing if there's anything you'd like to... Give me that link! It's a PDF so for instance in the Revolutionary War I mean how many military personnel do you think died? in the Revolutionary War? Yeah, just as a... we don't really know how many were serving but we do know how many total deaths there were. I have no idea! 4,435. That sounds... yeah i was going to guess in the thousands right The Civil War military personnel- We're talking 364,511 so much more than that. Yes there's a lot

52:17 And then you get World War I, 116. World War II was really the doozy more than the Civil War by the way because I often hear oh... What are saying right now is exactly what I've heard. Now this is service personnel so civilians and all that's out of the realm what we're talking about. Civil war is 364 thousand. World War II 405 thousand 399. Then the numbers really drop quite dramatically Persian Gulf War 383 Then we go to... The Vietnam War was the biggest one after that. It was 50,000. I think the exact number is 58,220. So yeah you're right about that. Close to 60. And they also break it down by... Here we go this is now we're talking about this is since the here we go This is with Desert Storm, Desert Shield really pretty much from 2001 onward

53:20 Oh no, I'm sorry. Vietnam conflict here we go this is a good one for you the Vietnam conflict which i always was quite convinced that it was the poor black kids who were dying on the front lines did you ever get that idea? Actually No I never got that idea. That wasn't sold to us back in the day It was sold to me, that it was always the poor kids with no underprivileged... No, that's the anti-war folks around the world They have a fixed sales pitch and that would be part of it Well, just so you have the numbers. The total of white service members that was almost your 50,000 49,826 who perished and black or African-American 7243 big difference huge I really had a different view of that and that's how it was indeed sold to me as an aside

CHAPTER 14 / 34 Discussion

US Military Death Causes and Racial Agitation

Data from the Congressional Research Service identifies "accidents" as the leading cause of death for US military personnel since 1980. The hosts analyze current casualty rates in Operation Enduring Freedom, showing that African American deaths are statistically lower than their percentage of the general population. They accuse MSNBC hosts Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski of enabling Al Sharpton's "racial war" rhetoric.

military deaths· accidents· al sharpton· joe scarborough· mika brzezinski· msnbc· friendly fire

54:17 This is also in the table and this is all marked up on the show notes if you guys want to see it. So, you know... It's from the government. The numbers they have that here are the different types of deaths that occur and this is since 1980. You can have a well maybe just ask you what do you think the number one cause of death is of U.S service? US military personnel. What is the number one cause of death? Okay, have a couple guesses Yeah sure okay guess number one food poisoning it It is not listed as an item But it could be it could be could be part of the number one try again friendly fire that

54:59 possible. Yeah, that would possibly in the big... The biggest number I'll just tell you is accident it's listed as accident accidents yeah and if you look at accidents it's really if you look across the board friendly fire yeah I mean, among other things. Like i was listening to a PBS show and they were talking about this specific thing and the kind of... They used to have again like a broad... Since I'm in New York is like a Broadway play they used to put on uh-huh And the army guys you know it was The Stiffs that run the place they killed this thing but It went on for about a decade

55:36 entertaining the troops with why accidents, you know. You have to be careful and it was about getting run over running yourself over or shooting your buddy sure and it was a done as a play and it had an impact that actually lowered the accident amounts because people were more thoughtful cuz nobody's thoughtful about this And accidents include all kinds of crazy things. A lot of mishaps during basic training, shooting your buddy... Oh people get electrocuted in showers, there's all kinds of stuff. Dropping a hand grenade in the barracks There is also homicide against each other. Yeah homicides That's pretty high actually Now here's the number that counts and it's consistent across the board I'm going to give you Operation Enduring Freedom Just so you know the quote was a disproportionate amount

56:23 of the deaths and going into the coffin sent there by Hillary Clinton, because that was what it was about. I thought that was even funnier although it gets kind of lost in that whole piece. A disproportionate amount of black and brown Americans which I will take to be considering the two who are talking to me African-Americans...I do not believe they speak for Hispanics or Mexicans but that number is even lower So currently the population of black American, African Americans as per the book of knowledge in the United States and this was also a surprising number to me. Do you know what the percentage is of African Americans in the United States? It's like 17% or something 12.3 yeah okay Mexicans is 17%. Now that's not Hispanics they are listed separately anyway we're talking about african americans

57:11 It is 12.3% of the overall racial makeup of the United States, but if you look at the numbers, the claim was disproportionate Well here we go Operation Enduring Freedom 1999 white deaths 193 black or African-American deaths That is 10%. So it's disproportionately less in fact What was it? 200 what? No Number of deaths in Operation Enduring Freedom

57:49 1,999 white. Black? 999. 1999. Yeah you're right it's about...it's a little... It's maybe closer to 11%. But it's not every coffin! No and then it's not true is what it is but they are starting the racial war inside the military this is this is what I want you to be on the lookout for To say this you know how Al Sharpton is he's like oh, that's a good idea so there's about 2,000 dead white people and about 200 and something no black. No less or less than 200 193 less than 200 Oh 193 yeah less than two hundred okay So it was 2001 nine nine nine two thousand whites and one ninety three yes Black black or I'm going to L sharp tin yet Let's listen to it again let's listen to the we can list at the very end

58:45 Well, that's what you just said. Barack Obama? That's what he ought to be saying. He is saying that but it's not connecting. And the Clinton campaign is saying his tone is harsh. And the people who die in those coffins by the way have a racial makeup that is much browner or blacker than the rest of the country. There's no doubt about it. There's no doubt about it! Why is this guy on SNBC in the first place?! Does anybody call these assholes out about this sort of thing? I think that everybody, including Joe and Mika believed him to be correct. Yeah Joe and Mika what idiots are they! Oh yeah oh they're all killing a black man wow that's a good one

59:32 It was very... That would be clip of the day. No, but I... Not Dallas Sharpton but your clip that your clip indicating it was a you know 10% But there is no clip you had to do the research. I did and look for a clip please somebody spare me the work. Back checking clips. You know how Sharpton is he saw the opportunity heard the guy say like oh crap another way to go make money yeah let's go protest we need less black deaths in the military Hey, you whitey kill yourself. So we change the...change the numbers." Whatever! You know how he operates? He goes in there and incites racial hatred until they pay him off and he leaves And he saw this. He saw this despicable human being, this guy Yeah Goin' and just- now were gonna start race wars in the military Yeah that's where we really need it

CHAPTER 15 / 34 Discussion

Dame Astrid and the Dvorak Ant Killing Trick

Dame Astrid, Duchess of Japan, contributes $234.56 and shares a story about buying fake paintings in Vietnam. In response, John C. Dvorak reiterates his "ant trick" for managing Argentine ant infestations. The tactic involves using a lighter to torch scout ants while leaving "witness" ants alive to carry the dead back to the nest, supposedly signaling the colony to avoid the area.

dame astrid· tokyo· argentina ants· bic lighter· pest control· ho chi minh city· vietnam

1:00:23 Yeah, let's break up the ranks. Actually most of the military guys whatever race they are pretty together yeah of course because that's how you stay alive. Well with that I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John Cena! where the C stands for Caucasian Advanced Age Guide, Dvorak. And in the morning to you whatever that means also in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground feet and the air subs in water than the dames and the knights out there In the morning to the chat room noagenda stream calm thank y'all for showing up an hour earlier because of course John's a New York we didn't want to keep him waiting too long

1:01:00 And nice to see y'all here. No agenda stream calm Thank you very much to our artists and let me see this is the artwork for episode 8 1 2 was titled non-disabled and The art was brought to us by chunji, and we messed up for the second time with this artwork I can't believe it We had used this though. We have before the for the iTunes special promotional thing Oh, that's... I don't think that counts. Well the problem is it was mis-instead of it saying corporate sponsors it said corporate sponsors we missed it the first time we used and we miss it the second time we used It's because it's missable.

1:01:45 It's missable. I was disappointed that we made the mistake again. We could make a similar... That's the way humans work! Yeah, yeah, I guess so. But not robots! Alright so this is a truncated list and would you going to thank everybody? We can and everything we missed or whatever only one person to thank here are this part. And that is Dame Astrid Duchess of Japan who sent in $234 dollars and 56 cents which is two three four five six one of my all-time favorites And she, unfortunately the spreadsheet thing that I have on this little laptop which i was unaware of doesn't do word wrap. So I can't read what she said. Dear John where the C stands for Chick Magnet! Oh yeah

1:02:30 Happy birthday. Please, please John tell us more stories they are classic gems from wine connoisseur to how... Classic Gems! To how to burn ants from trying to pick up girls on a motorbike on a snowy night in Tahoe to where buying fake paintings in Vietnam Incidentally, and before you even told the story on noagenda I bought a large fake of Klimt the Kiss and a Sunflowers by Van Gogh in exactly one of those little alley galleries in Ho Chi Minh on my honeymoon. I think i'm joining the crush on john club wishing you all the best send pictures John. I love you day mastered Duchess of Japan Well, she doesn't say to send pictures part by oh, I thought yeah, I thought you couldn't read I thought you had no line rap What is this? I don't but did wishing the bestest as a standalone line and I didn't see the other pardon that's your talking about Right so I got a letter from somebody saying that he's tried the ant trick and it works like a champ

1:03:28 Okay, would you like to reiterate how it works? Yeah. All right here we go So when you had if you're in California where you have Argentine Argentina Argentina ants These things are a plague and that the lot of the West Coast hasn't but not We don't have in Washington State they still regular ants Which are much more casual so these ants come and they always have they have a very well structured society And one of the things they do is they send scouts out to peruse the territory for possible things to rush in and grab. And so when you see these scouts, and you'll see them once in a while, you'll see like a lone ant on the kitchen counter. Ants! Yes. So you take one of those BIC lighters or scripto lighters, those things that you light barbecues with, and you torch him right there on the counter and leave him there.

1:04:23 And then one another, and of course there's somebody who keeps tabs on these guys. Says you know Bill hasn't reported in can we send a couple of guys to look for him? And so if you see those guys, you torch them too. And then pretty soon they send somebody else to look for the old... What happened to these ants? Do they communicate through walkie-talkies or how does that work? I don't know what they do and maybe it's psychic whatever once in a while ant will be out there looking for where these guys went maybe their running into a different hive or who knows and they'll find the dead ants invariably find the dead ants within like two hours These ants really get around

1:05:01 And they will sniff and sniff and go crazy, run around the ant. They won't know what to do. And they might go back to the ant nest and say there's a dead ant there and then send somebody get him so that if some ant comes out and grabs the ant takes them back where they analyze him Then they decide whether it's something they should do something bad going on out there in the void. They analyze him like in CSI rotate the ants and enhance What happened to him he has burned so what so the rule is what you want to do as a human? Is you torch the answer when you see them But if you see an ant carrying an ant another was one of the dead ends taking back to the nest You'd leave that one alone yeah because

1:05:39 Because he's taking it like the guy who is the witness. Yeah, and you know such as you go tell them what happened Okay both So so if you see lone ants you torture if you see ants carrying ants You let them go and then within that you won't see any answer like a month or two Now if you don't do that And these ants find something like anything. They can... some crazy little thing they can see, and yeah anything. Next you come up wake up in the morning and that kitchen will have a big stream of ants and you'll find their head into a honey pot or something who knows but you have to do that it's the guy people have tried this they all say it works That's another ant killing tip. I'm embellishing it more and more though Yeah well it's good yeah you are I think it's not embellishing I think your expanding your tactics

CHAPTER 16 / 34 Discussion

Myanmar Election and Aung San Suu Kyi Corruption

The hosts discuss the political situation in Myanmar, where Aung San Suu Kyi has hand-picked Tin Kyaw to serve as president because she is constitutionally barred from the office. They argue that Western media is ignoring the inherent corruption of a system where a non-elected official openly runs the government. The segment criticizes the "gaga" media coverage of Suu Kyi as a democratic icon.

myanmar· aung san suu kyi· tin kyaw· junta· democracy· pbs newshour· corruption

1:06:34 I think maybe, I've been having a better understanding of the mechanism. All right, everybody. Well thank you. That's it for us. Dame Astry came in with some money and that's the end of it. And we do appreciate your support. Oh by the way stop she becomes executive producer yes absolutely the show the sole executive producer bumped up and well deserved uh we got another show coming up on Thursday please remember us for that program devorak dot org slash na no matter where you are and of course the Dvorak family is doing this they are in New York propagating our formula is this We hit people in the mouth. Amen, fist bump. Shut up! You know I've been watching a developing news story that i just have to comment on because nobody seems to make this comment but you're familiar with what's going on in Myanmar? Uh no... Well they had an election and that woman won yeah well she didn't win because she's not electable

1:07:42 Because it's against the law. Here, play this clip and you'll catch up and I have a comment on this that no one seems to be paying any attention to. His government in 54 years... Under the constitution written by the junta, Suu Kyi was not allowed to run for president because her children are foreign nationals She said she will lead the country anyway And as Foreign Education & Energy Minister and minister-in-charge of the President's office she also has a major official role to play Tin Chor was hand-picked by Suu Kyi for the role of president. He's not widely known and is not a member of parliament While democracy has made huge advances in Myanmar, the current constitution gives the military a quarter of the seats in Parliament and control of several key ministries So it will have a veto over any new fully democratic Constitution

1:08:35 So everybody's all, everyone if you haven't noticed they're all gaga over this woman and she's cracked the junta. And she's got- Yeah You know this president is there and- Yeah Hillary has been with her Everyone has been with her Everyone has been hanging out with her Yeah And she's cute Has anybody noticed that she is not the elected president? This would be like the boss tweed phenomenon This is so corrupt She handpicks the president, he gets elected and she says I'm gonna still run things so everyone will be happy. How is this even close to being a Democrat? This is the basis of corruption!

1:09:14 This is a corrupt system. That is pretty crazy! No one says this, they say oh this was fantastic, there's women finally military get them out. Oh you know and when you say no one I have to agree because every day I've been watching PBS NewsHour, I've been watching the news channels... You're right about Friday by the way on PBS NewsHour boy do they phone it in on Friday Nothing going on in that show. But it's all Clinton Trump, Clinton Trump, Trump Clinton blah blah blah... There is nothing of worldly views! Things are taking place in our world that are interesting and important But we're not hearing about most of them. How much do, how often do we have to hear about the... You know Trump who's been you I'm getting sick of the fact that he dominates the news so much if he says something that gets everybody's attention oh that's great or he says all women should be beaten and hung by their feet if they have an abortion Oh my god this guy is an idiot He can't do it And then he says no I didn't say sorry I said that was bad Well you know what John kick back and relax

CHAPTER 17 / 34 Discussion

Donald Trump Abortion Comment Controversy

Donald Trump faces intense criticism following an interview with Chris Matthews where he suggested "some form of punishment" for women who have abortions if the practice is banned. The hosts analyze reactions from Planned Parenthood's Cecile Richards and Dawn Laguens. Adam Curry argues that Trump made a "cardinal sin" by answering a political hypothetical, which he believes has cost him the general election.

donald trump· chris matthews· msnbc· abortion· cecile richards· planned parenthood· hypothetical

1:10:19 kick back and relax. I believe Donald Trump lost any possibility of winning the certainly the general election but probably even becoming the Republican candidate because of what happened to him with this comment which you just categorized how did you categorize again? What did he say? The women who have an abortion should be strung up yeah exactly well let's go now punished punished punished let's go to the videotape And, let me see where is this woman? Okay. In the wake of this Chris Matthew's Donald Trump interview and how it was presented to the public... He should have never submitted to

1:11:09 Well, I have some thoughts on that. Here is Cecile Richards though weighing in on what Donald Trump said. Cecile thanks for coming back for this- And with Matthews I might add the same guy who interviewed Trump of course. Cecile thanks for coming back for this occasion What's your reaction to what Donald Trump said on the tape we just showed? Well, obviously what he said was outrageous. But I think what's really important and I'm glad you pushed him on it Chris. What is important to recognize is Donald Trump's position on making abortion a crime is the exact same position that John Kasich has, Ted Cruz has and frankly the Republican National Committee in their platform. And so I think that the logical next question which you push them on is well then what will we do when women are criminals and doctors are criminal because abortion is outlawed?

1:11:57 That, I think is a very legitimate question and although people may not want to hear it that he's saying women will be punished we know that they will be. We know that they will be punished. If you even look at a Republican, you will be punished. Cecile Richards has her henchman out. This is Dawn Lougens I believe and she's also from Planned Parenthood. She showed up on CNN. Again i would just maintain Allison that they're horrified to have been outed for what they do every day which is punish women who seek abortion to back laws that tell doctors they must lie to women, to work to shut down clinics, to ban certain procedures that doctors say are important for women's safety and health. I mean all of these things! That is what their agenda is day in and day out. They do punish women. And so... You know the way this sounds if a woman looks at a Republican he's probably going to punch her in the face

1:12:57 Isn't that what she's saying? We wake up as Republicans in the morning, not that I am one. But Republicans wake up in the morning and go, how can I punish women? Those horrible beasts. It would be so much better. Republicans have been so outfoxed by the Democrats regarding anything that has to do with- With women! With women. That is humiliating. Oh wait for it babe. Their agenda is day in and day out they do punish women and so they can be upset that Donald Trump is saying it out loud and proud if you will but

1:13:38 I really don't draw a distinction between what the effect of their agenda is in their efforts to punish women every single day. Every day we wake up and we think, how can we punish women? Yes that is the Republican mantra! That may be true for some Republicans...I don't know. Maybe the gay ones hate the women. There are gay Republicans and maybe they hate women there are gays who hate women But this is not what Donald Trump thinks. Okay, so prefacing this by saying as I already stated, I believe Donald Trump has now lost all opportunity. I don't think he can recover from this. I really don't. It is... When Tina saw the soundbite because we also have a soundbite of Donald Trump basically saying as you summarize women should be thrown in jail if they have an abortion

1:14:34 Tina the Keeper who has been following along with With and with a show and it's been looking at Trump with different I should never of course never voted for Republican She's a woman for God sakes. This would never happen, and when she heard that she went oh my god Oh, I can't vote for him He's he's all against women And what they and I understand women how they feel about their bodies? And you have something growing inside You don't want to get it And of course, you know when I said oh i think he lost the any chance of the election because this her next comment was uh that means we get Hillary. Yeah that's kind of the point but I am here to prove to you that this was orchestrated set up in collaboration between MSNBC Rachel Maddow and Hillary Clinton if can prove this. Uh-oh! But more importantly Donald Trump did show he is not a skilled politician because he committed the cardinal sin

1:15:32 He commented on a hypothetical. Now, you never ever ever comment on a hypothetical because that hypothetical can then be used your answer can be used and said that's your position would you agree this is something you don't think that's absolutely true? You never most people say I refuse to comment on hypothetic yes the State Department we hear it a million times...I'm not gonna comment in a hypothetical I know what you're trying to do that's what they say He commented on a hypothetical and I'd like to prove that to you. And, I mean iId like to show you and... I'd like to take you through the whole thing if you'll... So a lot of people who are listening to this and jump in oh they're defending Trump now I think Trump is toast at this point. I'm not defending him. We don't defend Trump! No, I just want to preface it

CHAPTER 18 / 34 Discussion

MSNBC Town Hall Context and Pro-Life Debate

A review of the unedited MSNBC Town Hall footage shows Donald Trump attempting to discuss the importance of Supreme Court appointments following the death of Antonin Scalia. Trump initially tries to frame the abortion issue around judicial philosophy before being pressured by Chris Matthews into the "punishment" comment. The hosts note that Matthews explicitly stated he does not understand the pro-life position.

donald trump· chris matthews· msnbc· town hall· pro-life· antonin scalia· supreme court

1:16:25 Okay, so first and everybody saw let me put it this way very few people actually watch the Donald Trump Town Hall. It's MSNBC no one cares anymore There's a million of these things going on and it was easy to miss by chance I caught it yesterday afternoon I'm looking like wow this is wow this whole thing and this is kind of the sad part, Trump was doing what Melania had asked him to do. He was being presidential throughout this whole town hall he was being kind courteous calm he was addressing things with thought but he made the mistake of commenting on a hypothetical so let's start with what you did not see

1:17:05 And then I'm going to go into the segment that started this all off, which was 100% Rachel Maddow right after it took place. And well you'll see that in a moment so first about a minute of what you didn't hear the lead in with a question from this young girl to Donald Trump his answers and then we'll get into how this was propagated into making Donald Trump pretty much unelectable. Young lady, hello. I'm tiny and I have a question on what is your stance on women rights and their right to choose in their own reproductive health? Okay well look I mean as you know i am pro-life all right I think you know that um...and uh... with exceptions with the three exceptions but uh... pretty much just my stance

1:17:48 Is that okay? You understand? What should the law be on abortion. Well, I have been pro-life. I know your principle is a good value but what should be the law? They've set the law and frankly the judges... you're going to have a very big election coming up for that reason because you have judges where it's real tipping point and with the loss of Scalia who was a very strong conservative This presidential election is going to be very important because when you say what's the law, nobody knows what the law is going to be. It depends on who gets elected because somebody is going to appoint conservative judges and somebody is gonna point liberal judges depending on who wins I've never understood the pro-life position Well...I never understand it Because I understand principle, its human life as people see it But what crime? What crime is it? Well, it's human life No! Should a woman be punished? Okay

1:18:35 So that is what you did not hear and not see in any of the clips. You only saw that if you watched it live from the beginning. Now I want to make a quick comment, right? You're right in terms of the way they're passing around yeah but I think it's interesting that a commentator will say that he doesn't understand in any way the pro-life position. Uh huh, well that's it gets more interesting because Donald Trump I don't know if it was a trap but he put his foot right into it uh with that question. It was a trap obviously so right after this thing was done and this is just yes go ahead one more thing yeah Chris Matthews is going to take credit for bringing Donald Trump down of course gonna be some he's gonna be some he'll have a network job

CHAPTER 19 / 34 Discussion

Rachel Maddow and Hillary Clinton Collaboration

Adam Curry alleges a coordinated effort between Rachel Maddow and Hillary Clinton to damage Donald Trump's campaign. Maddow interviewed Clinton at the Apollo Theater simultaneously with Trump's Town Hall, then immediately presented edited clips of Trump to Clinton for a "reaction." The hosts critique Maddow's adoring tone toward Clinton and her framing of Trump's comments as a desire to "punish women."

rachel maddow· hillary clinton· msnbc· apollo theater· bernie sanders· media bias

1:19:26 He's moving to the big house. No, that's not possible. You're not moving up to the big house? I like the big house. He's just gonna take credit it's going to be in his bio So the way this aired linearly, and this topic was the last topic of the town hall. Right after that Rachel Maddow comes on the show so I saw this in linear sequence and now i'm like oh my god this is great here's how it went down what happened Rachel Maddow had a scheduled interview with Hillary Clinton I don't know if you've watched the Rachel Maddow show lately, but unfortunately... I'm watching it about once a week. So she does a lot of embellishment and long setups. Oh, she's terrible! She's got one of the worst shows and she's so snotty, geez. Oh well get ready. You got a bucket? So she was interviewing Hillary Clinton while this town hall was taking place

1:20:29 And I left, it's a little long but it's going to be worth it. So I left in there the adoration and the love for Hillary and just how awesome Rachel Maddow is and how awesome Hillary is! And she goes on and on...and then she'll eventually lead into the piece that we all saw In fact, she actually aired a much longer piece than what was cut down too in most other newscasts But there were also three edits I have to say were extremely important to the context of what was going on. And it was a railroad job, top quality, top notch! Good job! But it was a railroad job. So here is Rachel first explaining how awesome because Hillary was at the theater and she had to go in. Her name up on the marquee at the Apollo Theater

1:21:18 You can see in the foreground there some Bernie people across the street from... She's very Hillary, so Bernie people across the street. Losers! Losers! You can see in the foreground there some Bernie people across the street from the theater. Meanwhile, while that was all happening me and my crew we're all inside The Apollo backstage in the offices there prepping last-minute questions and research for Secretary Clinton fact checking everything... You see photos of them like on laptops fact checking everything because you know we are going to interview the president, the next President United States We got it be perfect, gotta do it perfectly right? Because we are so good! Clinton fact-checking everything we were gonna ask her and put to her

1:21:55 As soon as the event ended and they cleared out that auditorium that had been so full to see her, we rushed in as fast as possible. To set up the lighting and cameras and microphones and chairs tables water glasses everything on stage I got seated on stage then she got seated right after me then it's like rush everybody get your phones turned off Okay, good. We gotta go! Secretary Clinton and I kibitz for just a teeny tiny second... Oh we kibitz just for because we're such good friends we kibitz for a tiny teeny second but we had business to do so we had to hurry up For just a teeny tiny second until everything is adjusted in terms of the lights and sound and everything And then we go! Woo! Go! Go! No messing around She's only got so much time she's a presidential candidate! I'm supposed to be next president by the second round

1:22:42 We do the interview. It's fairly intense, you're going to see it in just a moment She ends up making news on the Supreme Court and on Bernie Sanders and what European leaders have been privately telling her during the campaign That is another great bit But anyways here's Rachel help Hillary make news And and and and Fascinating interview super intense and then wrap Super intense! It's over she's gotta go We gotta go So Turn on the lights. And then we all get off that stage, grab our stuff, turn our phones back on and... Oh my god! What just happened? Well that was happening and we had our phones turned off did you guys see this

1:23:27 Literally while we were taping that interview with Hillary Clinton today, Chris Matthews was simultaneously doing the part of his town hall with Donald Trump where Donald Trump started pontificating on exactly how he would like to punish women. Now hold on a second! That lead-in is already misleading How he would like to punish women? He didn't... Did you hear anything like that? Would do ever see any of these sound bites of him saying here's how I'd like to punish women? Here is how i would like to punish women. First, I'd like to punch them in the gut. Punish women! Slap em slap em slap left slap right and then bang in the ear boom pop that eardrum and then one more socked to the solar plexus and tell him to stop it

1:24:16 Yeah, yeah. No I don't think i saw that one either. I didn't hear any of that Exactly how he would like to punish women jail them maybe? Maybe some fines If any American woman tried to have an abortion in this country once he was president and abortion was banned Okay, so the lead-in is saying that's actually really horrible. Yeah well now I don't know if she...I really dislike her. I have to only think that she's driving back from the Apollo Theater about it. I don't think it was online right after the broadcast So I don't know if she actually saw the whole

CHAPTER 20 / 34 Discussion

Analysis of Edited Trump-Matthews Exchange

The hosts break down the specific edits made by MSNBC to the Trump-Matthews exchange. They highlight how Trump tried to turn the question back on Matthews' Catholic faith to discuss moral versus legal punishments, but these segments were removed. The final broadcast version focused exclusively on Trump's admission that some form of sanction would be necessary if abortion were legally defined as a crime.

donald trump· chris matthews· msnbc· rachel maddow· catholic church· roe v. wade· media editing

1:24:57 17 minutes on this particular topic or not, but she leads in and remember Trump was quoting on a hypothetical, which she edited the hypothetical context out in the piece she is about to play. Of course she doesn't start with the context of the question and how he answered it first which was appropriate saying hey this is going to be an important election whoever gets in is gonna get that final judge vote and that could change how uh the abortion law's run in America which is not abnormal for a Republican candidate to say But that's a little different than he talked about how he is going to punish women once he's president and changes the law, which is not his change to make. And I will stop at the first edit because there were three where she edited out most of the context of this hypothetical

1:25:49 Should the woman be punished for having an abortion? Look, this is not something you can dodge. If you say that abortion is a crime or abortion is murder, you have to deal with it under the law. Should abortion be punished? Well people in certain parts of the Republican Party and conservative Republicans would say yes they should be punished How about you I would say that its a very serious problem And thats a problem we have to decide on is it's very hard to say well wait are you gonna say put them in jail? Is that what I'm asking? Notice Trump is actually asking him Are you saying we're going to put him in jail? You're gonna say, put them in jail. Is that what I'm asking you because you say you want a bandit. What's that mean? I am against...I am pro-life yes How do you ban abortion how do you actually do it well you know you'll go back to a Here is where Trump messes up a bit because what he wants to say is that may not be such a good idea to ban it because then women would resort to coat hanger shops That's what he's saying but He screws it up and comes out wrong

1:26:49 to a position like they had where people will perhaps go to illegal places. At this point, John would you agree that he is refuting what Matthews is saying? He's handling it well yeah like they had where people will perhaps go to illegal places yeah but you have to ban it I'm gonna go to somebody who flunked out of medical school. Again this is hypothetical now yes i think how do you feel about the catholic church's position? I accept the teaching authority of my church or more issues. But do you know their position on abortion? Yes I do and... Do you concur with that position? I concur with their moral position but legally, here's my problem No no let me ask you what do you say about your church it's really not funny thing What do you say about your church they're very very strong. The churches make their moral judgments but you running for president of United States will be chief executive in United States! Do you believe in punishment for abortion yes or no as a principle? The answer is that

1:27:47 There has to be some form of punishment for the woman. Yeah, it has to be some form 10 That I don't know Everything else frankly I do take positions and everything else It's a very complicated position tell me what what you didn't hear was the crafty edit between Trump's answer and Matthew said any then it jumps in saying Do you believe women should be punished? They took out his follow-on, which is a 43 seconds where he continues badgering Matthews about his religion. And I understand exactly what he was trying to do but he was doing a hypothetical What he wanted Matthews to say was yes i'm a devout Catholic Yes the catholic church if it can sit against abortion considers it murder

1:28:36 And Trump was trying to get him to say, so what is the punishment the Catholic Church hands out? Hail Marys or what is it. That was what he was trying to say thereby saying you know yeah if its law and you break the law there has to be punishment So what is the right punishment well how does the Catholic church handle that What is your idea Chris Matthews That was taken out here's where he continues to badger him But you said bluntly your pro-life meaning you want a badge The Catholic Church is my religion. No, I am talking about your religion your religion. I mean you say you're a very good Catholic I'm asking you what should a woman face? Even says I'm not gonna play that game with you Chris Matthews You didn't see this on the Rachel Maddow piece no

1:29:30 Okay, so that's where we came back in. All that peace was removed where Trump was clearly trying to say, yeah maybe we should do the same as the Catholic Church. You know it's not what it is actually being quite friendly I think if the law is like you should be punished then let's make it not a punishment that's too big now we go back

1:30:14 to the Maddo piece. This is where she picks it up and there's another edit coming up I am pro-life, i have not determined what the punishment would be Why not? Because I haven't determined When you decide to be pro life You should've thought of it because No, you could ask anybody who thinks they're pro life Here's my problem with this If you don't have a punishment for abortion And I don't believe in it Of course People are going to find a way To have an abortion You don't believe in what? I don't believe in punishing anybody For having an abortion Okay fine okay That's fine And I think It's a woman's choice So your against The teachings of your church I have a view and moral. I'm sorry, this is actually the piece that the edit was so small This is the piece that was also not in there Indian to you obviously view but I believe we live in a free country And I don't want to live in a country So fascistic they can stop a person from making that decision But then it would be so invasive but I've heard of a society That I wouldn't be on with familiar with at Donald Trump You wouldn't be familiar what I said speaking so highly

1:31:06 about your religion and your church. Your church is very, very strongly as you know pro-life. What do you say to your church? I say I accept your moral authority in the United States that people make the decisions the courts rule on what's in the Constitution and we live by that That's what I said. But you don't live by it because you don't accept it, and you can't accept it! You can't accept it! Can we go back to matters of the law and running for president? Because matters in the law are what I'm talking about And this is a difficult situation that you placed yourself in By saying your pro-life you mean you want to ban abortion So you hear Trump moving on the whole concept of this hypothetical, which he just doesn't... He's not able to get Matthews to commit to it. Although I think the intent was clear again that's nothing- Matthews won't bite! No but we didn't hear that We never saw that Now she winds it down What does that mean? I am pro life with exceptions. I'm sorry already had that piece now now we go to the oh here's the Matthews

1:32:06 Rachel's summary is coming up. Here we go I have not determined what the punishment would be Why not? Because i haven't determined it By saying you're pro-life, you mean... That was it! I'm sorry, I played him in the wrong order Did you see that whole piece that I just played? That was knocked out after nine seconds in this piece So that whole piece you just heard was NOT In It Hears How It Aired What does that mean?! With exceptions, I am pro life I have not determined what the punishment would be Why not!? Because I haven't determined it. By saying you're pro-life, you mean you want to ban abortion? How do you ban abortion without some kind of sanction? Then you get into that very tricky question about sanctions... A fine on human life which you call murder? It'll have to be determined. A fine for imprisonment for a young woman who finds herself pregnant? It will have to be determined!

1:32:49 Donald Trump in that remarkable exchange with Chris Matthews there. That happened just here on MSNBC, Mr. Trump the Republican frontrunner pontificating on how he would punish women who might dare to try to have an abortion in this country something which he would try to ban if you were president of the United States I did not hear him say that Did you? No, it was a very good job on- this was a hit job. A hit job and now! But wait... Here comes the best part First I'm gonna play you the last 36 seconds of the actual interview we didn't see Then you get into that very tricky question with sanctioned fine on human life which you call murder It'll have to be determined A fine imprisonment for young woman who finds- Ah crap, I'm sorry little confused it was late last night

CHAPTER 21 / 34 Discussion

Hillary Clinton Reaction and Maya Angelou Quote

Hillary Clinton responds to Donald Trump's comments in a follow-up segment with Rachel Maddow, calling his rhetoric "outrageous and dangerous." Clinton invokes a Maya Angelou quote—"when someone shows you who they are, believe them"—to characterize the entire Republican platform. The hosts argue that Clinton is successfully making the election about women's rights and the future of the Supreme Court.

hillary clinton· rachel maddow· maya angelou· msnbc· abortion rights· republican party

1:33:40 This is it. Here we go. Donald Trump. Now, this is it So she sees this she wraps it up She makes false claims based on a hypothetical with an edited piece But then I ended up...I kid you not! Left the Apollo Theater came back to my office and then turned right around rushed back out again To find her again Again After our interview was done because I felt like I really needed to get her response to this development Now remember, this is the woman they had just a few moments of time with because she's the presidential candidate. We have to go turn your phones off shut up we go buh buh buh but no time she's on the move! But yet after this aired Rachel Maddow She said I'm gonna go back i'm gonna find her Because I felt like I really needed to get her response to this development

1:34:26 I'm not in the habit of following people back to their offices after my interview with them is over. Oh, please! But in this case that's exactly what I did and I'm glad I did it because... Yeah because we need to get Trump out of the race Because watch this. Madam Secretary, I am not in the habit of chasing people down after I've had the chance to speak to them for second round but while we were speaking today Donald Trump made some remarks that you have had a strong reaction to and I just wanted to get your take on this. Mr. Trump told Chris Matthews today that abortion must be banned in this country? No, he didn't say that! He did not say it! That abortion must be banned in this country? That he thinks women will go back to illegal places to get abortions once it is banned?

1:35:10 He didn't say that either. No, he said that's what would happen if that was... If that's not a good idea is the way I heard it. ...said quote there has to be some form of punishment for a woman seeking an abortion and then he said he hasn't yet determined what the appropriate punishment should be And you said on Twitter about that just when you thought it couldn't get worse Horrific and telling What do you mean by that? Well what Donald Trump said today was outrageous and dangerous Outrageous. Hillary is lying here, but I'm sorry and maybe she didn't see it But she, this is these are lies. Outrageous and dangerous? Yeah if that's what he wanted to do but that was a hypothetical Well what Donald Trump said today was I'm sorry you want to say something John? Well yeah i mean If your gonna start doing editing on anything And here's the kind of gets me I think the Trump decision making Is a bit much Because I don't understand why He would do anything

1:36:08 with MSNBC, which is a clear partisan. He tried he I think this is the sad part if you look at you would see the whole town hall in context that he was really doing a good job. He had a lot of smart policy answers. You know it's beside its still beside the point no but that's why they had to ruin enemy period two and Republican He refused to do one of the Fox debates and they're kind of semi-friendly even though, you know, we claim they were actually run by the Democrats like everybody else. But this group is as you proved earlier with the fact checking on the Sharpton lies

1:36:50 This is a lying, low-level organization that can't get very good ratings but they can cause trouble. As you again showed earlier with the Sharpton stuff and so why would he go and do anything with these people? This to me is a judgment issue this was showing extremely bad or naive judgment to even come on this station I would say naive in looking at how much work had to be done to make this happen. They were just ready for him, they were just laying in wait and when can we do it? When can we get it? When can we put something in there and to take out the entire conversation about comparing it or asking Matthews what does the church say maybe that's if in this hypothetical scenario which will only be a fact if the Supreme Court decides to overturn Roe v Wade

1:37:42 If Trump, already said in the beginning he's pro-life except for the three exceptions which I presume are rape illness danger to the mother etc. Something like that yeah something like that. The big three. You know got screwed and you're right okay judgment yeah i agree it's a judgment But it was bound to happen anyway. It would have happened anyway Well, maybe but did not with so many people were so overtly out to get you it just makes no sense that he'd go on there and I mean because they're Not gonna be sympathetic heat They're not gonna be swayed by his presidential attitudes at all They just do their job is the it's a hit job if we got to get rid of this guy

1:38:26 Let's see how stupid he is. And they just go after him, they aren't paying any attention to anything he's doing except they're just looking for him to flub and then you're going to take the flub edit it in a certain way and push it out. But it wasn't even a flub! It was just a cardinal mistake in politics. It was a flub by their standards if you did the edit right. Okay true yes I agree And so you know, it's like you can do that. You could probably take our show and a couple of times you'll say something good nobody's going to get us. Oh! You could totally make us into super A-holes easily Yeah because we say every once in awhile you will say something and then if you just take that one comment even though I've done it before

1:39:05 Well, I think these guys have made a huge mistake. Not those guys but these other guys have made a huge mistake and you just cut out the second part and leave in the first part These guys had made a huge mistake Did you say that or not? Yes i did So Hillary... I corrected myself 5 seconds later You could've been nice to play that so Trump tried to block this back almost immediately That got no traction That was even a bigger mistake In my opinion I think you might be right. He may have shot himself in the foot Oh, i'm convinced of it. I want to play the rest of Hillary Clinton Uh been how she turns this into what he said was dangerous No What was aired in The Rachel Maddow Show is dangerous and just listen to the res about a minute left of her It couldn't get worse Horrific and telling what do you mean by that? Well what Donald Trump said today was outrageous and dangerous And You know

1:39:56 I'm constantly just taken aback at the kinds of things that he advocates for. You know, Maya Angelou said when someone... Oh bring in Maya Angelou! That always helps go straight to that. The kinds of things that he advocates for you know Maya Angelou said when someone shows you who they are believe them and once again he has showed us who is The idea should be when someone shows you who they are believe them what she slipped it in She made sure it's to leave him We roll that back exactly just taken aback at the kinds of things that he advocates for You know Maya Angelou said when someone shows you who they are believe them and once again He has showed us. I think she said then she said them

1:40:47 I think she did it correctly. The idea that he and all the Republicans espouse, that abortion should be illegal is one that is not embraced by the vast majority of Americans in our country and in fact as he pointed out if it were illegal then women and doctors would be criminals Yeah That part is actually correct. If it's illegal and you break the law, it's illegal. And this is just beyond any... The Republicans are throwing the election

CHAPTER 22 / 34 Discussion

Republican Strategy and the Economic Cycle Theory

John C. Dvorak posits a theory that the Republican establishment may want Hillary Clinton to win to avoid being in power during an imminent economic collapse. Citing 40 and 80-year cycles of depression, he compares a potential Clinton presidency to the one-term failures of Jimmy Carter and Herbert Hoover. The hosts suggest the GOP might prefer a "shitty" Democratic president to take the blame for a financial crisis.

hillary clinton· ted cruz· donald trump· economic depression· jimmy carter· herbert hoover· 80-year cycle

1:41:25 Yeah, you're probably right. You know I'm always wondering about when i see something like this happen with the throw in the election because they're throwing the election because Trump they can't have him cause he could actually win so let's screw him over and just throw them to the wolves and get rid of him yeah And let's run Cruz who couldn't beat anybody He is just a non-likable unpleasant looking person he's slimy Do you remember the first men in black? The guy who had all the bugs inside of him Yeah? Cruise. Cruise... yeah, he's got bugs inside of him and then once in a while they come out and they appear on his lip. So I know this is probably completely

1:42:10 one of the nuttier thoughts of mine. But I've had this thought a lot, early on in the election where we kept believing that they were trying to throw the election You know i have this economic theory that has a 40 and 80 year cycle of depression Yes there's a book coming out about it here And uh...I've always been subtly convinced The Republicans know that they can't really, they don't want to be even though Trump might be able to get us through it. Other people have done it but you really want to put somebody like Hillary in because it's going to happen as soon she gets in the economy is going to collapse

1:42:53 within a year. And then you bring, then you have... Or immediately or just before she gets in but she can't get, if it's just before she gets in She is not going to say well whose fault? Is she gonna blame on George Bush I don't think so They cant blame anybody but themselves and should be nasty enough To get them the Jimmy Carter style of situation because it was that Carter that got he was last president that was involved in this cycle And he was a one-term president. Herbert Hoover was involved in this and he was the one term president, there's this happens an whoever that person is they have a hard time staying in office because you just get when gets mad and they turn to the other party in droves

1:43:37 And I really, there's got to be some theorists that work within the party that know this and they can say look we really don't want... Hillary is perfect because from the Republican perspective it reverses the thoughts on women presidents. Because she's going to be a screw up We know she's not gonna be any good She's gonna be pro-banker She's not gonna be any good! She's NOT gonna be a good president And so you, and so there's I know it sounds crazy but i keep thinking that this is what they want. They want a shitty president to be in there screw things up so they can get in full force if you're playing along game which these parties do uh then i'm all-in that makes sense That's what they would do yeah That's what they would do You don't need to be an office you need to have the presidency What you really wants when you get the whole damn thing and you can really get some shit done Well of course

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Donald Trump on NATO and Foreign Reimbursement

Donald Trump argues that NATO members and allies like Japan and South Korea are getting a "free ride" on US military protection. He suggests these nations should reimburse the United States or face the possibility of US withdrawal. Trump highlights his business dealings with China and South Korea as evidence of his superior negotiating skills compared to the current administration.

donald trump· nato· japan· south korea· germany· vladimir putin· gdp· military spending

1:44:31 does boil down to in that case is if Hillary Clinton's elected, then you can be sure that the Supreme Court will be stacked in the left favor versus the right. That is one consideration they may want to make because unless you go kill the judges cause it's a lifetime appointment... Oh, you mean like Scalia? Yeah! I'm not looking at anybody I just want to continue with Hillary because she really set the tone for this. She's been quoted everywhere, these sound bites everywhere on MSNBC and they just keep coming. And in fact as he pointed out if it were illegal then women and doctors would be criminals and this is just beyond any position taken by someone running for president in

1:45:23 a serious way in a very long time. That's beyond any president, yeah but it was hypothetical! And I think not only women but men all Americans need to understand that this kind of inflammatory destructive rhetoric I have a question, John. She says under our Constitution because the Supreme Court made a decision on Roe v Wade

1:45:59 Does that mean it's a constitutional law? I just don't quite understand. In some technical way, I think so. Okay because that's what i think she's saying...I just didn't really understand It just comes across as more of a technical way than in the Bill of Rights you know what I'm saying But she makes it sound like... Well, what it is you take this thing that you have the Roe versus Wade thing. Is that constitutional? The courts decides yeah! It's constitutional so it doesn't violate anything in the Constitution edges of what is permitted under our Constitution, what we believe in and people should reject it. And women in particular must know that this right which we have guaranteed to us under the Constitution could be taken away and that's why the stakes in this election couldn't be higher So she's making the election about women which is what I'd do too if I was her absolutely In an offhanded way she's making you about the judges

1:46:57 Oh of course he's making about the judges absolutely. One little last bit here which I think is important because we've been following Trump's comments about NATO, which i liked because he was essentially well... from a process standpoint, he was saying hey don't worry military industrial complex I'm gonna clean you up. But i'm going to make sure all these other bozos who aren't paying their fair share every country every NATO member must commit 2% of its GDP to NATO and no one else is doing it the president when you'll recall he was in South America Hey countries! No where was it?

1:47:43 He went to Argentina. Was it Argentina? Which is, hey countries... No it was in the Balkans somewhere wasn't he said a quick stopover I don't know yeah we well yeah he said hey you guys got to step it up a little bit that's basically what he said now Trump has a different view he really wants to do a few things he wants to pick up some cash presumably to route it back into the military industrial complex of that's he's been very clear about And he has a different negotiating style and tactic than what is currently being used, which to some many is the appeal of Donald Trump. Here he is on NATO in that interview and then we'll go back and listen to the Rachel Maddow Hillary Clinton version of what he said. Look, NATO is 68 years old. You have countries that are getting a free ride

1:48:34 You have countries that benefit from NATO much more than we do. We don't benefit that much I think you can turn down new deals But all these deals we've had for years like NATO and relationships with Japan's Japan doesn't want a nuclear weapon defend of course Why why should they what? Wait a minute before and I'll answer that question but we defend a lot of people don't even know this. We spend a fortune on defending Japan, we spend a fortune on defending Germany right? We spent a fortune on defending South Korea now i order thousands and thousands of television sets here they come from South Korea they make so much they're making a fortune there are behemoths so is Germany why are we defending because it's in our interest yeah but why aren't they reimbursing us why aren't they paying

1:49:18 a good portion of the cost. It's fine, it is a good argument if you can get it but if the alternative is we walk... I'll get it! The alternative is to walk. I'm the messenger, I'll get it. Another messenger will walk. They're going to do because they like you or fear that we will walk? No they are going to get it because its in their best interest You said something about South Korea and Japan maybe having to develop their own nuclear weapon capability What I said was keep it as it is but have to pay fair share just so you understand is a behemoth. They make so much, the ships of the world, the great ships of the world you can't buy televisions anymore unless you go to south other than Sony which is in Japan. You know what? The last time we pulled troops for 38th parallel we had a problem it's the Korean war So I risk one of these- We shouldn't be pulling troops! I'll tell you at the Korean War Okay so we compete with South Korea I have buildings in South Korea and get along great with people in South Korea Of course! And here's the best part Troops The top people cannot believe because they didn't know that I was going to run for president

1:50:11 They used to tell me. They don't tell me that anymore they cannot believe they get away with what they get away with you know else China I have the largest bank in the world and my building paying me lots of rent largest in the world I know China, I have the Bank of America building in San Francisco. I got through China 1290 every year I've made a lot of money condos all over the place with China. I know the Chinese better than anybody can let me tell you they can't believe So Trump, what he said and it was very clear is like I don't want them to have nuclear weapons but if they want us to continue to protect them they've got the money. They should pay us for that and we know that there's in South Korea there's been some of that with some sales it was about a billion dollars

CHAPTER 24 / 34 Discussion

Hillary Clinton Foreign Policy and Global Bases

Hillary Clinton criticizes Donald Trump's "walk away" strategy regarding NATO, arguing it would drive allies toward Vladimir Putin. The hosts discuss the reality of the US as a "Roman Empire" style power, maintaining 662 overseas bases at a cost of hundreds of billions annually. They note that while Trump wants to audit the Pentagon and clean up "corrupt deals," Clinton represents the status quo of the empire.

hillary clinton· nato· russia· baltic states· vladimir putin· military bases· ron paul

1:51:02 But it's clearly not equivalent to what we're putting into it. And I guess his version of negotiation is, you know what? Um...I'll tell you this if you guys don't pay up we're gonna walk away good luck to ya! That's how he does business This does not fit in Hillary Clinton's mind, but when you hear her strategy You know it kind of sounds like we're getting screwed He's complaining that we are basically carrying other countries weight in NATO and then other countries aren't keeping up with us Isn't there something to that part of the criticism? Well I think it's fair to say that We do want the countries that are

1:51:42 partners in NATO with us to fulfill their obligations and we will continue to push that. Some countries as you said have really stepped up No, no countries have really stepped up In the last few years to do that and we want more to step up but we have to look at what it means to have defense. We have to modernize NATO, what kind of alliance will NATO be? How does it protect from the non-state threat of terrorism we've always been an alliance primarily focused on Russia and aggression then moving our eyes toward Iran and the potential of nuclear weapons in the like. We have to take a 360 degree look

1:52:19 about how NATO is going to help improve the defense and security of our European partners. But I would still argue while we're in that process, to get them to do more for themselves and change some of their laws so they can be better partners with us particularly on sharing information across their own borders than with United States when it comes to potential terrorist activity Again, don't think you accomplished that by holding this threat over their heads where you act like you are totally oblivious to the fact that Russia is probing the boundaries of the Baltic states for example. You don't!

1:52:58 think get what you need out of NATO countries all of them including the smallest ones by acting as though you could walk away from it that could lead to the politicians and the forces within let's say that Baltic countries who are favorable toward Russia like Russian speaking populations, to say to their fellow leaders hey you know what? The US is out of here we'd better start making accommodations with Russia. It's all is a very complex set of circumstances that I don't think he even has studied or cares to understand. And so, you know from my perspective i'm willing and anxious to take him on this broad range of foreign policy and security issues. So I have a question... You know here's the way I'm seeing this He is an American who is a capitalist

1:53:50 Kind of a classic character who is really not part of the ruling elite. I'll say! He's just a rich guy, who is in and out of trouble Hillary's part of the system. She is like, you know, part of the empire which is your old saying. Yeah she uniquely qualified to run the empire The Empire Is An Empire Is An Empire relies on having these bases all over the place just assert that we're an empire even though We don't call ourselves that were a nation promoting democracy Yes How many overseas bases are there that the US maintains? Just take a wild guess 80

1:54:34 662. I was actually gonna say 300, but i thought i'd give you a break? I was very wrong! Wow that's a lot... That is a lot And so the reason to have all these bases is just to assert, you know... Hey look at us. It's like the Roman Empire were the closest thing that has ever come close We've come very close to being like the Roman Empire and they had bases all over the damn place That's good to know this number That's a lot of moolah Yeah these bases cost billions per day

1:55:14 Yeah, probably. The defense department spends $660 billion a year and we don't even know where that money goes And nobody sees this as a problem except for very few politicians. Every once in awhile somebody brings it up, I mean Ron Paul would be one of them or actually there's a bunch of them they mention it They tend to be conservatives and they tend to...I think Bernie maybe has brought it up But why can't we audit these guys and see where the money is going? We know that a lot of us are just being squandered Or it's going into some corrupt deals There's nothing..there's no way you can't Which Donald Trump has called out exactly as such

1:55:52 Yeah. And said he was going to go clean it up? We could do a better job with our money, yes and everyone would be happier for sure but uh... It's hopeless. But I like-I think his negotiating tactic is more obvious you know so his tactic is listen we're doing this for long time you owe us money if you don't pay we're gonna leave that's kind of how business works Hillary Clinton is saying, oh you don't do that. You say hey we can't...we're actually what she said was we kowtowed to them because if we pull out they'll go to evil Vladimir Putin so we're the suckers in her scenario

CHAPTER 25 / 34 Discussion

Hillary Clinton Email Investigation and FBI Leverage

Judge Andrew Napolitano provides an update on the FBI investigation into Hillary Clinton's private email server, describing it as a "perfect storm of legal misery." The hosts discuss the possibility that the FBI, led by James Comey, is gathering evidence not to prosecute, but to gain "leverage" or blackmail material over a potential President Clinton. They compare this tactic to the historical operations of J. Edgar Hoover.

hillary clinton· fbi· james comey· andrew napolitano· freedom of information act· blackmail· j. edgar hoover

1:56:34 Exactly. And we are! That's the policy, that's all the way it's always been they say thanks for having you here and we don't have any money we want to pay for whatever and yet now we can get in our audited numbers yeah so in that case... You know this guy Milo Yiannopoulos he is a conservative from Canada I think? And he has crazy blonde hair gay You haven't seen this guy? I'm thinking of the Boris character, the mayor of London. The way you're describing it... Well he does look a bit like Boris but he's young He's the guy who got unverified by Twitter for some conservative comments he made. I don't know anything about this We discussed it doesn't matter Um well I've lost it now lost the discussion So he's a huge Trump fan and he calls Trump daddy And I think he's right America right now

1:57:33 And this is probably the hardest thing for Hillary. You know, when you're down you want daddy to come in and fix it and Trump is acting like the stereotypical daddy! I'm gonna have him come in make a great... Now you're sitting at home thinking boy am a loser got no job and some guy comes on TV like an infomercial be honest Trump sounds like an infomercial Hey we'll make everything great again oh he got my attention hey you wanna be great? Want a job? Yeah yeah It's very simple how this happens, very simple. Hillary on the other hand has a huge problem which is underreported luckily there is Judge Napolitano to the rescue who gave a nice little summary of the current status of her email investigation by FBI and although I don't think mentioned in this clip we just received word here at the news desk of The No Agenda Show

1:58:36 We just received word that the State Department has been told by FBI to stop their investigation, so they're out of the way. They're out of the way what the FBI is doing and of course FBI is run by Jim Comey, The Republican So as things are heating up Judge Napolitano who had a great show on Fox he got fired didn't he? Apparently Yeah Uh...so he gets to come on and do his little spiel He was a little too old-fashioned conservative constitutionalist Yeah we can have none of that Here he is. I think that Mrs Clinton is currently at the vortex of a perfect storm of legal misery. I love that, that should be on her epitaph, she'd read that. Perfect storm of illegal misery

1:59:20 I think that Mrs. Clinton is currently at the vortex of a perfect storm of legal misery her senior aids from her years as the Secretary of State who are still very close to her have been ordered to testify under oath in two Freedom of Information Act requests, in a discovery context meaning the ability of the lawyer to ask questions is wide and broad and there's no judge there to sustain any objections And 2 federal judges one of whom appointed by her husband uh... have both suggested there is likely evidence of a conspiracy in the office of the secretary state when she was there to evade and avoid federal law add to that than the very same week the same people are going to be examined in those two freedom information act cases are being called into the fbi

2:00:07 and asked if they want to speak to the FBI. A very dangerous thing for any lawyer to allow his client to do, and after that Mrs Clinton will be called in. The ultimate irony is that the reason she embarked on all this was to hide her communications from the world from the Freedom of Information Act from Congress That was the point. There's no other point in doing this to mend, evade subpoenas inquiries congressional committees and now it's all over the world I mean everything is out there we know that 22 of these were high extremely highly secret and it's look it's a perfect

2:00:51 The word condign was invented for this kind of retribution. This is condict punishment You want to hide your your official acts in a way that nobody else has and nobody else would try too I like that word condign C-o-n-d-i-g-n Use the adjective Condign to describe a fair and fitting punishment Like the Condign cleanup work assigned to group of students after they made a big mess I interpret that... I've never heard this word. It seems to be a legal term, yeah? You could pronounce it condine or condyne. It comes from the Latin con means together all together and dingus... That would apply to Clinton And dingus which means worthy so something that is condyne is deserved and appropriate there you go but the way I hear what uh that was the guy with the scuba diving accident which isn't it Krauthammer Krauthammer Heimer Krautenheimer

2:01:57 He said she tried to hide her emails now everything's out in the open. That is a condign punishment, inferring maybe in a way that nothing will happen FBI won't do anything but at least she had the condined punishment of all of the stuff that she tried to hide was out there I'm not quite sure what he's trying to say Not quite sure what the FBI is gonna do Well? What do you think Well, what I think is that they're going to do what the FBI has done historically and use it to blackmail her. So it would be appropriate then for her to get into office and then not open investigation but keep that ongoing and keep things kind of alive to be able to blackmail her while she's the president? Yeah!

2:02:49 Yeah, I like that. That's the kind of leverage they don't have the kind of leverage at the NSA and the CIA right because they got out They can they got those pictures and they got the audio tapes of all the shenanigans? Yeah, yeah exactly this NSA in this CIA could embarrass Hillary But they can't throw her in jail Right FBI. Yeah FBI can do that which guy real that's a real leverage Hmm. That's pretty scary Yeah, well it's not an unusual thing for them. I mean they... It's in their DNA! It's in their DNA because he came from J Edgar Hoover Yeah, it's LBJ or that thing playing on in New York the play the all the way I think it's called the lbj story any References to it. It might be I don't know that actually has not on my list because I see I saw it in Austin and There's a lot of good LBJ stuff and now I think they I think death that probably closed was pulled already probably close Last bit of us election news I have is just the Millennials

CHAPTER 26 / 34 Discussion

Bernie Sanders and the Birdie Sanders Phenomenon

A small bird landing on Bernie Sanders' lectern during a speech sparked the "Birdie Sanders" viral trend among millennials. CBS News' Facebook edition is mocked for asking Sanders if the event was a "message from the ether" or if he has an "animal spirit." The hosts use the segment to criticize the lack of serious journalism in coverage of the Democratic primary.

bernie sanders· cbs news· facebook· birdie sanders· animal spirit· millennials

2:03:55 So CBS... you saw the bird that hopped up on Bernie Sanders' lectern? Yeah, everyone's seen that. It was very cute. It was beautiful and it was really fantastic! Well this has ignited such a passion in the millennials uh that Mr Sanders granted an interview to CBS News Facebook edition The face baggers. So they bring out the girl, the face-bagging girl for CBS News who was running the whole face bag...CBS News? The Tiffany Network John. The Tiffany Network. You remember that? Tiffany network and she gets a unique opportunity to speak with the man who she clearly would like to see be the next president of the United States. Hello Senator! Will you say hi to all your Facebook fans? How are you doing Facebook? Did you hear what he said?!

2:04:43 I said how you doing Facebook's are you doing Facebook? How are you doing Facebook? This distortion is there recording not mine And you basically shut down the internet John a small bird came on to the stage and he basically shut down basically said shut down the internet Internet shut down Facebook because the hashtag Birdie Sanders started trending. Do you think you gain more supporters because it seems birds are on your side? Do you think you're getting more supporters because people now know that Birds are on your side

2:05:42 CBS News, John. What the hell are you listening to? CBS News, John. CBS News The Face Bags Edition. ...started trending. Do you think you gained more supporters because it seems birds are on your side? Well we think this is a message from... It's a message from the ether John. Yeah, it's a symbol. Do you have an animal spirit? Bird issue? I just want you to hear follow up question and then i'm done with it listen. Do you have an animal spirit is the next question oh my god this is a news reporter

CHAPTER 27 / 34 Discussion

Episode 813 Donation Segment and Birthday Wishes

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak read the list of donors for episode 813, including contributions from Long Island City, Arizona, and the United Kingdom. They acknowledge several birthday donations for Dvorak from listeners in the Netherlands, Guatemala, and across the US. The hosts apologize for any spreadsheet errors and thank the "sole executive producer" Dame Astrid.

wayne simmons· eric olson· daniel hochstein· stewart coates· brian sice· saskatoon· guatemala

2:06:27 I can't even play more. It's just too horrific. Yeah, that CBS News. Hello! That's a borderline clip of the day take it. We do have a few, very few people to thank for today's show. What is the number? 813-813-813. Let's start with Wayne Simmons in Long Island City $101 Sir Eric Olson from Water Valley Oh my goodness it says country but I don't have the states let me see if i can stretch this over and get the states Yeah States are important data point for you They tend to be C&E...I don't know where that went

2:07:24 Okay, I'll tell you what. I'll read the names and you read the state. City and State. We're going to work as a team for once. Oh how? That's like teamwork! It's collaboration hands across the aisle This is what happens this is what it was all about This is consensus model leaderless model John leaderless governing we're looking for Anonymous in Sultan, Washington. No wait you'd better do the city and state otherwise it sounds idiotic. No I like doing it this way keep going keep going all right John Robinet in blank hundred dollars blank nope town no city know nothing

2:08:04 He's apparently, in parts unknown I think is the way we put that. Parts unknown? Thank you! Parts unknown yes Sir Daniel Hochstein in 7388 in Sedona Sedona Arizona That's right 7388 a double ham shot and he has a birthday call out Yeah He is November 2 India Quebec Foxtrot You know oh wait no, I'm sorry. I got a change that he's changing He got a vanity call w1 tango echo echo and he says thank you very much I heard about the vanity call from you so we actually upgraded Thanks to the show his wife is I'm sorry he has a smoking hot wife But his life has become better because of the show that's basically what I was gonna be a 1T echo-echo

2:08:53 That's beautiful. W1T, Echo Echo. Yeah, W1T, Echo Echo. That's great! W1T... Tango? No, never mind. Yes, W1T. Yes, yes I gotcha. Sir Stewart, this is the way the team works by the way. Teamwork is great. Sir Stewart Coates 6469 in Chelmsford Essex in the United Kingdom of Gitmo Nation East Brian Sice 5812 in Maryland Heights, Missouri Missouri mo. Yes, Missouri, Missouri Maryland Heights, Missouri Maryland Heights Barry Coggins parts unknown 27 cents parts unknown

2:09:38 Shane Rozdilski, our buddy for 50 bucks for Saskatoon. Saskatchewan, Candinavia... Justin Barber in Los Angeles California! And that's it Well we have a couple of birthday donations for you I like to read those off these are typically not mentioned because they're under $50 Ryan Couture from Dallas Christoph Pitoad from Goodyear, Arizona. Rob Thijssen from Rotterdam the Netherlands Trevor Hoagland Portland Oregon Scott Van Walsum Lansing Michigan Patrick Kobel Sir Patrick Kobel to you in Fairview Tennessee Stanley Jones in Silkston Missouri

2:10:24 Hassan Maynard in Bayshore, New York. Rob Maxwell for Florida and we have an international donation Marco a Castellanos from Guatemala also saying happy birthday to you John C Dvorak. Well I like to thank them all yes And if you were expecting to be mentioned today, we probably had a mistake with the spreadsheet. No worries! We'll clear that up but do want to thank everybody for supporting the show Also our sole executive producer Dame Astrid from Tokyo Another show coming up on Thursday! Oh I wanted to give karma to everybody... That's what was missing... Karma...

CHAPTER 28 / 34 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony for Sir Lou the Shoe

The hosts conduct a formal knighting ceremony for Lou the Shoe, who contributed $1,000 or more to the program. He is granted a seat at the "round table of the Knights and Dames." The ceremony includes the traditional long list of humorous pairings, such as "Crickets & Cream" and "Bad Science and Perky Breasts," to welcome the new knight.

lou the shoe· knighting· no agenda· podcast· table of knights and dames

2:11:10 It's your birthday, birthday. I'm so much in love with you. We have one nighting. That's it we have Lou the shoe is All we're gonna be doing today, so that'll be a shorty yet Did you bring and did you bring us or to New York? I got this short one oh okay Alrighty

2:11:52 Lou the Shoe, could you please stand up here on the podium? On this side of the lectern if we don't mind. Thank you very much for supporting The No Agenda Show podcast in the amount of $1,000 or more and you now can take place your desired deserved spot at the round table of the Knights and Dames and I hereby pronounce the K- Sir Lou the Shoe, for you of course! Hookers and Poll Renn Poison Chardonnay Crickets & Cream Cuban Cigars and Single Malt Scotch Cheap Wine and Chili Dogs Raspberry Pies and Breakfast Burritos Pork Ribs and Pale Ale Drams and DMT Bad Science and Perky Breasts Johnny Walker Green Label Video Games and Vaporizers Progressive Rock and Russian Imperial Stouts Hockey and Sushi Root Beer and Pepperoni Pizza Ginger Ale and Germals And... Mutton and Mead. Wooo! Long list

CHAPTER 29 / 34 Discussion

Antiques Roadshow Oil Painting Reaction

John C. Dvorak describes a segment from Antiques Roadshow where a woman's oil painting was valued at $200,000 to $300,000. He notes her unusual reaction, where she expressed dismay because the high value meant she could no longer keep the painting due to insurance costs. The hosts find the "ruined my life" sentiment of the discovery humorous.

antiques roadshow· oil painting· impasto· auction estimate· insurance costs

2:12:38 It was a longer list than the donor it certainly was it certainly was oh I was watching. I was watching antiques Rose show hmm I've actually played this clip to Mimi and she, her jaw dropped too because this is a very strange. This is the strangest reaction it kind of makes sense when she explains that but this one of the strangest reactions they had this oil painting was just a gorgeous piece and you could tell it was worth something as estimating 20 grand or so wow that's a big you know how you watch antiques roadshow you try to guess that's the whole point of the show hello! And uh...this is the strange reaction that I just got a kick out of With you in fact you've had it In your family on your wall

2:13:17 Even the nails in the same place. This is its original frame It's never been out of its frame and one of things about that impasto as it catches some of the dirt You can see that there so it could stand a little bit of cleaning if I were to put an auction estimate on it, I'd put it at 200 to $300,000 Oh Oh, it was such a nice picture to just sort of have around. Wow! So terrible and I have to get rid of it now? Yeah, this is the nicest picture she has around and now she knows that she has to sell it you can't keep a picture like that the insurance cost is too high. Good for woman. Terrible. Ruined my life. Went down in the wrong tube hold on second yeah I could tell well

CHAPTER 30 / 34 Discussion

Depression Foods and Arthur Treacher's Fish and Chips

John C. Dvorak discusses "depression foods," noting that macaroni and cheese gained popularity in the 1930s as a cheap meal. He reminisces about the 1970s fad of fish and chip franchises like Arthur Treacher's and H. Salt, which have since largely disappeared. Dvorak attributes the decline of these shops to the "anti-fat movement" of the 1980s rather than a lack of product quality.

depression foods· mac and cheese· arthur treacher's· h. salt· fish and chips· 1970s· anti-fat movement

2:14:15 Ebola. Sorry, I had some water and I was laughing it went down the wrong tube. Well you get a spit take is what i'm angling for that was close someone thinks they have SARS no no no. SARS? Yeah that's a pretty old reference yeah All right, so I'm going to talk a little bit about funny depression food. You know we always talk about depression foods? Yeah well mac and cheese of course is the started the entire... That's the whopper but there's one i forgot all about until I saw this advertisement. Hold on hold on! I'm sorry just back in one second explain how you're doing comparisons

2:14:55 Depression foods and was mac, was a Mac and cheese. Was that invented during the depression? How is that comparable to what was the depression? It was invented during the thirties. Yes. Okay. During your depression it's a depression food is cheap crap you know you can buy a Mac and cheese dinner for 39 cents. And contains no actual Mac and cheese cardboard and glue is no magno cheese but I forgot about this guy. And this used to be a fad and it was in the 70's, and then it just died off like around right around the 80's but at one point these there were three companies that were involved in this and they were franchised all over the place so I remember these guys...and here's an ad for one of the three This is Archer Treacherous

2:15:41 Oh, what was that? And this is a 30 second ad. And this is an old school ad from back in the day? It's a real-real ad! There's a secret... Where's the secret?! The secrets at your fingertips it's Arthur Treater's Fish and Chips How do we make the meal you can't make at home What makes our fish fillets so crunchy Are chips like french fries outside and baked inside We'll never tell There's a secret here tonight Real good secret here tonight Buckle up Wait a minute. Did I just hear them say, we'll actually tell you what's inside? It's the secret? Well, I think they were talking about the French fries. The spices. Now I'm thinking of the French fries. Oh okay So there was it started in the late sixties just before the depression They're very popular three chains around the country The biggest one was H Salt

2:16:39 On H-Salt fish and chips, I think it was like 800 stores or something like that. Arthur Treshes came out of this. It's H-Salt the one who started the trend they were a Sausalito based company called Salt and they changed to H-Salt. And then they were all over the place and there were real fish and chip shops with the big giant cooker that you know, yeah sure in England. Yeah of course I've seen them and they cooked these things and there was H-Salt and then there was Arthur Treacher's was a copycat and they were all over the place and there was a third one called Rhodes which there were still a couple those left in the 90s but they're gone too and I have been completely baffled when we talk about this country has lost its sense of humor We have all kinds of different changes in the culture we have multiculturalism we have all these things going on

2:17:22 Why, of all the things that have passed into essential oblivion—I believe there's like five H-salt fish and chips left. And one of them I don't even know why they exist is one in Sacramento. Why did these things go into complete oblivion when fish and chips are a fantastic product? What do you think that might have caused this? I mean, do you even notice that there were used to be fish and chip shops all over the country. Well of course fish and chips the only knowledge I have is that it was a British thing and had a lot of it. It's a messy gooey very simple snack. You throw some tilapia, cod I guess. A lot of place

2:18:12 P-L-A-I-C-E. A lot of place? Yeah, that's one of the fish they like to use. Oh, place! Okay. Yeah. It seems like a fine... Special batter. Beer batter I guess. With well not really but it's like a beer batter but it has a fluffy quality and is nice and then they throw in the fries and it's not a bad meal if you like mulled vinegar. Yeah, that's alright. I think what happened, because it seems to me that would be back as a cyclical snack. Because it was of depression food. I haven't researched the 30s with it but it really was popular in the 70's and anything popular in the 70's there was a depression element

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PodShare Flophouses and Uber Market Share

The hosts discuss "PodShare," a modern version of a flophouse in Los Angeles where millennials pay $40 a night for a bunk. Dvorak compares this to the evolution of car services in New York, noting how Uber has replaced the cumbersome voucher systems used during his time at MTV. They also mention that Lyft is gaining market share in New York because its app allows for easier tipping.

podshare· downtown los angeles· millennials· uber· lyft· car services· mtv

2:19:00 I think it was killed off because it died off in the 80s when this anti-fat movement came up. Ah, yes, yes. Fried foods and fat makes you fat and all this other nonsense. Yeah And that's the end of that piece on to the next item So what other well do you want to talk about the flop house? We were talking about these The flop house, there's another thing that is going on. What was the name of that woman? She was Russian and she started this place in Los Angeles called... what was the name of it? I'm gonna look that up. I don't have my notes. She did a Kickstarter for it Yeah, it was a Kickstarter and she set up these little cubicles, little places you could sleep And photos of it were in the LA Times

2:19:48 She's Kazim made a nickel because it's even though they're charging 40 bucks a night or something for these pod shares What it's called pod share pod share so you should look this up, and I'm thinking. This is an another depression the analog of something that used to happen I was thinking flop houses or Something like that but its forty bucks a night for a flop houses should be really five Yeah, if you look at the numbers $40 is very expensive for a bunk. You can get a motel room someplace for 40 bucks. Well I don't know if you can get it in downtown LA but... Yeah but downtown LA's not a piece of cake who wants to be in downtown LA? A lot of Millennials are in downtown LA there's a whole scene going on there

2:20:38 Yeah, so you can spend 40 bucks. It's like a bunk is like a barracks more like a barracks in a way and so you sleep in there and you got one guy with gas And the whole place the whole deals ruined yeah Or somebody else who kind of guys that would stay there Maybe they're throwing up throwing up over to the side of the bed because it's like bunk beds There are little cubicles You have a little television set in there by yourself kinda like a small prison hmm This is another... this reeks of depression to me. Which, as far as I can go with this- But according to you? Okay so and no predictions for what do you think we should see from the previous depression that we should be seeing a version of in this as a signal? Well it's not good for fish and chips to be honest about it. No idea. Because I could go for some. Um, I think we're gonna have it pretty well covered. We have the Uber and Lyft which to me is an analogue of hitchhiking

2:21:39 Which was ride-sharing although I was thinking about that Because I took an uber last night You know, the difference between when I was in New York 1987 86 87 MTV. Now if you wanted a limo or town car even with the driver who would wait for you, he had to do four hour minimum. It was really expensive. He had to book it a day ahead of time then they had car services in New York. This is a big thing at cabs and car services and there's this, you know, it was the same guy except uh, you know, same, Usually they were Pakistani or Indian or the Sikh, a lot of Sikh no matter where they're from. And they'll had CB... The beads around it? The beads on this stool and on the chair and they had CB radios that were always talking on CB radio with each other but then you have the car service same guy same beads on the chair we used Communicar just to show you the improvement I've been all I'm gonna give Uber this

2:22:39 So if MTV was going to send me with a car back home, I would have to take a voucher. They would hand me a voucher which is like the Federal Express Airway bill with four carbon copies in it and it would say... You had those at PC Magazine? Yeah from 1515 Broadway or whatever to what was it 4 somewhere on West 57th Street and that would be the destination. But you know, you had to call up ahead of time an hour before wait on the phone listen to the recording saying you know there's a... You're almost telling 15 more minutes 10 more minutes five minutes sometimes oh it was rain we're experiencing delays of more than 20 minutes all of this! And then if you didn't show up after 5 minutes or ten minutes they would leave then you'd get a penalty for it

2:23:25 And all of this now is just you click this app and boom, and then someone shows up. I got to say that to me is mind boggling. I have to say that that is pretty incredible. We've been using Uber in New York. It's the best! This is absolutely the best but apparently Lyft is pushing them out of business according to the Uber guy Oh tell me He says that Lyft is in New York. Lyft has almost gotten 70% market share because of the tipping Yeah, I gotcha. I can see how it makes a difference. The Uber guys are a little irked by this but since JC has an uber account even though they're not number one on his phone is always Uber driver one minute away wherever you are in Manhattan and so you push the button and boom there's the guy! But this is a depression era gig whole infrastructure

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European Security Intelligence and Algerian Gangs

Adam Curry shares intelligence from military contacts regarding riots in Molenbeek being used as cover for terrorists to escape. He also reports that US military dependents were evacuated from Turkey due to specific threats against American and Jewish children. The segment concludes with a discussion of "ramkraak" (smash and grab) crimes in Europe linked to North African gangs and terrorist financing.

molenbeek· belgium· turkey· isis· algeria· ramkraak· moroccan gangs· raf

2:24:25 Which is beautiful. But yeah, the tipping thing I agree that's a big problem for Uber and I don't understand why they don't just go over to it? Why don't they just jump in? Anyway... Just couple bits of news I want to throw past you. I wanna let you go because its your birthday weekend everyone understands From military contacts in Europe I've received a couple messages just wanna put them out there One of them, you probably heard there were riots in Molenbeek in Belgium? Yep. And this was quote-unquote protesters so my... My contact immediately sent me a note he says ah this is exactly what you do when people need to disappear What?! So if there were terrorists sitting in Molenbeek and they needed to get out of town get out of the country creating a riot is a perfect distraction for it

2:25:26 Oh, nice. Yeah! And you can just see the Belgians going oh man... oh man... we got away both. We were too busy with over there? The reason why the almost 700 dependents of US military personnel in Turkey were evacuated I also got that answer There's specific intelligence known to the State Department and Defense Department that ISIS has said they are going to attack American and Jewish children. So Israel, you'll see Israel making similar moves. Oh that's the first time these... First time? Yes yes first time. Makes you wonder. May not be legit. What? The information I got may not be legit is that what you're saying? No i mean

2:26:23 The information is being passed. Oh, it's being passed around? Oh sure sure Because we haven't seen any evidence that the Israelis are being targeted for anything right and blow it up Right there's nothing been going on with Isis in Israel right and so and they specifically said children Which was always you know right when we know who likes to use seems like a bullshit thing They just need two Americans out or our excuse maybe yeah, maybe better yes something else gonna happen Yeah, yeah something's definitely going to happen And I wanted to put Algeria out there. There are so many connections now between the Belgians and the different gangs, this is kind of like the Rote Armee Fraction which... when were they active John? The RAF. That was in the 50s wasn't it? But they kinda were still jerking around through the 70's I thought

2:27:17 But you know, they were essentially to finance their operations. They were criminal gangs and you know they steal expensive cars then a lot of what is happening... You read it all over Europe they call it in Holland they called a ramkraak which means a smash break a smash let's call it smash job so the steel really expensive grab yes smashing grab thank you they'll steal an expensive car smash it into an ATM or other form of cash dispenser. That's a good bit! Yeah, it is a great bit and they'll have another expensive car they stole and they take off with the cash... And that suspicion now is that these are Moroccan and Algerian gangs then there's a lot of connections with terrorist networks. So I'm thinking eyes on Algeria. Diversity man what are you bitching about? Diversity yes! Eyes on Algeria oh and it's called a plofkraak in Dutch I'm sorry

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Detroit School Scandal and AI Audio Glitch

A corruption scandal in Detroit involves a dozen principals, including one previously featured on The Ellen DeGeneres Show, accused of taking kickbacks from a vendor. During the news report, an ABC correspondent appears to make a strange, high-pitched sound. The hosts debate whether this was a digital signal processing (DSP) error or evidence of an "AI glitch" in the broadcast.

detroit· school scandal· ellen degeneres· ronald alexander· kickbacks· ai glitch· dsp

2:28:15 That was rum crack, pluff crack. Pluff crack! Hello everybody DJ Pluff Crack with you I was listening to a the school scandal story on CBS. I think it was CBS or ABC Oh, I don't know about that Right in the middle of it they actually had a correspondent go into a paroxysm or something Or maybe he had a Tourette's thing? I-I don't know anything about this story Well the stories is about oh well the school scandal but let me play the ISO before you play the scandal story Okay Who are you with? Hi! Wait wait alright Let me play that again Who are you with? Hi What is that? Well, play the whole school scandal story and you tell me. Now to the school scandal erupting in Detroit a dozen principals accused in nearly million dollar kickback scheme one of the principals once helped on an episode of Ellen

2:29:05 ABC's Eva Pilgrim on the celebrated principal and the allegations tonight. Tonight a fall from grace for this Detroit principal who was featured on The Ellen DeGeneres Show in February. Hi Jeannie, who are you with? Ellen I'm with the most amazing man, the principal of Spain Elementary School. Ronald Alexander jumping for joy when Ellen and Justin Bieber teamed up getting his school more than a half million dollars for school supplies and repairs. He now finds himself facing charges one of a dozen Detroit area principals accused of receiving kickbacks The conduct alleged here is egregious. The kickbacks cost the school district almost $3 million. Investigators say the accused employees accepted inaccurate invoices in return, the school supplies vendor Norman Shy who lives in this mansion outside of Detroit rewarded them with gift cards cash and home improvements. Principal Alexander was accused of taking 23 thousand in kickbacks and bribes

2:30:01 It was a bunch, there's story goes on with more after. This is the problem I think just in most school districts I think California is rife with this these middlemen in the middle of these they're stealing all their money the taxpayers' money yeah that's what you do but still I listened to this woman DJ threw it to her and she made this crazy sound who are you with? Hi! That's a woman that's a grown woman Yeah uh that's that's a glitch She's clearly an AI. That's a glitch! Who are you with? Hiya, who is it? No no that just...that's the DSP just went haywire You think? Sounds like it I couldn't...I watched and I couldn't see I don't know her lips moving It was the strangest thing I've ever heard Were her lips moving when they came out Well it was long shit, there were wide shots so you couldn't tell So it's the same woman speaking but then she makes that sound in the middle of it Yeah

2:30:59 Who are you with? Hi! Maybe it was a DSP issue, but it was the weirdest one I've ever seen. Sounds to me like the AI glitch that's what I think. AI... Alright, I won't let you go. You good? Yeah, I think so. We got stuff coming up for the next show on Thursday and we'll have lots to talk about on Thursday. What time is it there? You're now 2 o'clock almost two o'clock? Yeah almost two. And we still gotta do art and credits... yeah i'll get you out Is the family like... like at the door

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Episode 813 Outro and Final Mix

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak sign off from Austin and Manhattan, concluding episode 813. The show ends with a production mix featuring clips of the "ant trick," satirical songs about "mac and cheese," and vintage Arthur Treacher's advertisements. They announce the next live broadcast for the following Thursday.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· austin· manhattan· no agenda· mac and cheese· fish and chips

2:31:39 No. Are you done yet? Are you done yet? Are ya done yet? With your podcast, with your podcast. But that PODCAST! Dad's podcasting again! This rig I set up in here is pretty fun Take a picture take a picture take a picture quick That was a good idea And happy birthday John for Thank you thank you very much Happy Birthday thank you for your courage and passion Broadcasting to you from the skyscraper, the crackpot condo in downtown Austin. FEMA region 6 Yes we are the capital of the drone star state In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry

2:32:20 And from the 18th floor of the West Side in Manhattan looking at, gee the sky's blue and beautiful for some reason but it's windy and cold. I'm John C. Dvorak We will return with another episode of The Best Podcast In The Universe on Thursday right here on NO Agenda Adios mofos I don't know if we had ants. We had ant invasion, uh...I was thinking if you desiccated a big pile of ants and then ground them to powder like fine grind black pepper? We were having dinner and yeah! I got an ant somehow in the meal and I ate it These things are peppery.

2:33:33 I got ants. These ants, they don't need a lot and then you see when you find all the ones that are roaming around here... I'm going to back them off by doing the burning trick. You just torch them. And leave him there The only ant, and there are occasional moments where there's an ant that you do not torch and that's an ant that is carrying one of the dead ants back. I got ants! I got ants. I got ants, ants, ants, ants. You slaves can get used to mac and cheese, mac and cheese, mac and cheese. Cheap macaroni and cheap cheddar melted together. Mac and cheese, mac and cheese, mac and cheese. Hi, Ellen!

2:34:42 Mac and cheese by Ayn Rand. There's a secret! Where is the secret? The secrets at your fingertips, it's our third treat, your fish and chips How do we make the meal you can't make at home what makes our fish fillets so crunchy are chips like french fries outside and baked inside We'll never tell! There's a secret here tonight real good secret here tonight Buck your head Original fish and chips. Shhh! Hey, take it out of my ass. Hey, take it out of my ass. No way I'm buying that! I think I scored this person out. Adios mofo. Amen fist bump. The best podcast in the universe. Dvorak dot org slash N A